=== greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke_ [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:35] also, I'm getting this warning frequently when starting apps from the command line "GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon..." [12:35] I used to get that, not seen it recently though === Ronald|Laptop [n=ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:37] ryanpg: make sure you're running -current- gutsy. [12:37] crimsun, I just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade today [12:39] you need to do it every hour sometime after 33 minutes past the hour. [12:39] this is my "gutsy" line in sources.list deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse [12:39] updating once per day is insufficient [12:39] I don't think I'm missing anything, or am I? === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:43] crimsun, run firefox from the command line for me... tell me if you get that warning please? === j_ack [n=jack@p508DB91D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:46] ryanpg: yes [12:47] I think it's due to having libglib2 debugging symbols installed perhaps [12:48] no === alex-weej_ [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:54] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-January/msg00005.html === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-24-5-168-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:16] yay! apport finally ran (for some unknown reason) === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-68-152.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Peaker_ [n=Peaker@87.68.216.3.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.54.100] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:31] ok can somebody tell me how can I use gmailfs? [01:32] when I try to install it , it says [01:32] sudo aptitude install gmailfs [01:32] Reading package lists... Done [01:32] Building dependency tree [01:32] Reading state information... Done [01:32] Reading extended state information [01:32] Initializing package states... Done [01:32] Building tag database... Done [01:32] No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. [01:32] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [01:32] Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. [01:32] Writing extended state information... Done [01:32] which means it is already done [01:32] !pastebin | shirish [01:32] shirish: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:33] thanx crdlb putting the large text there === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:34] crdlb: when I do aptitude show it shows me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25799/ [01:34] can somebody guide me what I need to do, so i can start seeing if it works or not? [01:36] !gmailfs [01:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about gmailfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:36] damn [01:36] there was a good how to on it [01:37] gnomefreak: how do I fuse-source to compile appropriate modules for my running kernel. [01:37] ah tht would have been cool [01:37] shirish: alot of building you may not want to do [01:37] shirish: theres a good simple guide im trying to find the person that wrote it [01:37] gnomefreak: true, if there is any way to avoid it that would be nice [01:39] in the meantime === shirish learns how to twiddle thumbs [01:39] very relaxing exercise ;) [01:40] ooh: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=975 === False_Courage [n=False_Co@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:41] shirish: you dont have to compile them [01:41] shirish: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem-installing.html [01:41] DanaG: please stay on topic in here [01:42] Ubuntu's kernel comes with fglrx in volatile by default, but if you build the ATi fglrx module with module-assistant it puts it in misc instead (so it doesn't work as it ends up loading the one from volatile which is the old one) [01:43] Enverex: wait for new ones to get done. fglrx doesnt have support for 7.3 yet [01:43] gnomefreak: ok can we a private conversation to understand what I need to do about gmailfs or is this place ok? [01:43] gnomefreak, Yes it does [01:43] gnomefreak, As of 8.37 [01:43] Enverex: they released them in ubuntu? [01:43] afaik they are not in ubuntu yet [01:44] Of course not, Ubuntu doesn't seems incredibly slow on the uptake of new drivers, heh [01:44] *-doesn't [01:44] shirish: it tells you what to do in hte link === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:45] gnomefreak: I'm kinda new to this, hence it would be better to know before jumping :) [01:45] Enverex: than the drivers dont support 7.3 and if you did get them from ati you need to look for support in #ubuntu-offtopic [01:45] gnomefreak: for e.g. our recent kernels have FUSE by default, yes? [01:45] shirish: ive never done it but there should be a better guide out there. my gamil accounts are loaded down as it is [01:45] shirish: should yes [01:45] Enverex: afaik, there's a a problem where xserver 1.3 reports 1.3 as the version, and fglrx looks for 7.0 [01:46] gnomefreak, The drivers were built from source with module-assistant. Where the modules are put is a module-assistant issue, not a source package issue, correct? [01:46] pwnguin, Yes, with the OLD drivers [01:46] gnomefreak: same here, there is a firefox add-on called Gspace which I use, but personally like gmailfs [01:46] im checking with phoronix, but i dont see anything about new drivers recently [01:47] Enverex: sounds more like a conflict [01:47] pwnguin, 8.37 was released a week ago or so [01:47] Enverex: if you feel its a build issue join #ubuntu-motu see if they can help you with the build === pwnguin wonders if motu will help with kernel builds [01:48] gnomefreak: hopefully you can find a better guide sometime & put that in the factoid? [01:48] gnomefreak, I think you're kinda missing the point. module-assistant is what makes the driver package, I doubt motu are going to help with that. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:49] Argh, whenever I open properties for ANY media file, Nautilus crashes. [01:49] I don't experience that at all. [01:49] gnomefreak: there is no mention of gmailfs anywhere in the community help pages :( [01:49] Do you have totem* installed? [01:50] Yeah, I've tried both -xine and -gstreamer. [01:50] DanaG: any debugging output? [01:50] DanaG: confirmed at my end too [01:51] pwguin: no debugging output [01:51] nautilus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/libtotem-properties-page.so: undefined symbol: totem_interface_load_with_root [01:52] there's already a bug filed about that [01:52] and what appears to be a patch [01:52] DanaG: what did you do to have that debugging output? [01:53] shirish: you have to nuke the desktop nautilus session [01:53] Remove Nautilus from session, and hit apply. Then run nautilus in a console. [01:53] Remove Nautilus from session, meaning killall or something else? [01:53] shirish: killall wont solve it [01:53] gnome-session-properties [01:54] shirish: gnome will bring it back from the dead [01:54] just use the handy session management stuff nobody ever looks at like DanaG suggests [01:54] Another bug: when Nautilus crashes, gnome-session doesn't relaunch it with the "-n" parameter.\ === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:55] That wallpaper has finally replaced the dawn-of-ubuntu wallpaper on my desktop. [01:55] DanaG: absolutely right, this is fun [01:55] (wow, random topic change) [01:55] what wallpaper? [01:56] oh [01:57] OT but does lower ratings define higher priority in session? for e.g. nautilus has 40 while most of the others have 50 [01:57] OOps, I just got a kernel oops in something... [01:57] but I can't tell what. === pwnguin has no idea what half that stuff means in sessions. theres probably a help guide though === jaaroo [n=jaro@x53.mykey.cz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] [01:58] [01:58] "The session manager starts applications with lower order [01:59] values first. The default value is 50." === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:08] DanaG: why should nautilus relaunch with -n? [02:09] pwnguin, so it doesn't open your home folder [02:09] ah [02:13] seems on feisty that -n is not the same as --no-default-window === pwnguin boots laptop [02:15] ex === clooch [n=clooch@66.231.221.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.54.100] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:29] anyone else having connectivity problems with 3945 and gutsy? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:40] pwnguin: i was earlier last week i installed 7.04 and it worked ok [02:40] pwnguin: you should file a bug report if it still not working with current gutsy (if there isn't a bug report already) [02:41] i thought it was just my laptop at the time so i didn't report the bug [02:41] i had just gotten a new laptop and various things didn't work so i didn't think anything of it === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:43] calc: it works, but it takes a lot of time to connect [02:45] oh [02:46] i donno if there's some low power thing or what [02:52] Oh yeah, I have ipw3945. [02:53] I've been having some random dropouts. === DanaG wishes people would use question marks in their topic titles. [02:55] "howto install gmailfs" -- looks like a tutorial. Instead, it's "how do you ... ?" [02:56] i dont like the forums much [02:57] "How to fix this problem that nobody's ever figured out!!!!!" [02:57] it sorta winds up being the square pegs for lots of differently rounded holes [02:57] then it says "How? [02:57] " [02:57] heh [02:58] like most of the how-tos are probably better off in the wiki [02:58] instead they just edit their post === DarkX [n=DarkX@75.109.219.236] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:59] and answers.launchpad.net has a lot of useful support specific features [02:59] but primarily, searching through forums sucks [03:01] and bug reports, again, are better done via launchpad [03:01] What's worse is forums that disable searching for unregistered people. [03:01] heh [03:01] Or worse: try ocforums.com (overclockers). [03:02] Search as non-member is enabled.... but never returns results for ANYTHING. [03:02] i gotta say [03:02] launchpad is really neat compared to bugzilla === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-154-141.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@ppp-70-246-48-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RxDx [i=LINUX@201-74-147-218-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-66-139-216-167.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === bur[n] e2 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-24-5-168-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === grndslm [n=grndslm@69.92.23.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF4304.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15EB94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === c1|freaky [i=alpha@team.code-1.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F0F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:25] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/27567 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=stars@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Peaker_ [n=Peaker@84.94.134.22.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:00] does anyone know how to fix the spellchecker issue in OOo in gutsy which causes OOo to segfault when you try and use the spell checker? [07:00] calc: might [07:00] but he's probably not here === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:02] I found a bug for feisty for it and I am trying to use the solution from there regarding using the dictionary wizard to install the correct dictionary, but English (UK) is not listed, only English (Australia), English (Canada), English (New Zealand), English (United States) and English (South Africa) === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:03] I have checked the dictionary files in /usr/lib/openoffice/dict/ooo as well and I already have english uk listed and symlinked to the relevant files [07:04] the bug basically makes it impossible for me to open any files written in English (as opposed to foreign english) as it segfaults immediately [07:04] I submitted a bug to launchpad, but as far as I know no-one has even looked at it yet [07:05] bug 120462 [07:05] Launchpad bug 120462 in openoffice.org "Open Office 2.2.0-lubuntu3 Crashes when opening MS Office files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120462 === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:05] I should change the bug since it is not just ms office files effected but all files written in english(english) === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:09] Paladine: yea i was looking at the various spell checker bugs [07:09] Paladine: not sure what to do about the english uk one [07:10] Paladine: i just started working on OOo recently though so i am still learning how it works [07:10] Paladine: do you have myspell-en-gb installed? [07:10] calc, I just added a new comment to my launchpad bug to correctly describe the problem [07:10] I initially thought it was crashing on MS Office files [07:11] afternoon calc [07:11] Paladine: can you attach a simple test example file to that bug as well? [07:11] Paladine: er one that causes a crash preferrably ;) [07:12] Hobbsee: heh late night here, 12:11am :) [07:12] calc, I will do one tomorrow, it is very late here now and the only files I have are personal info such as letters [07:12] :) [07:12] Paladine: ok no problem [07:12] is myspell-en-gb a seperate package? [07:12] Hobbsee: reviewed 50 ooo bugs today [07:12] Paladine: yes it is the dictionary for UK English afaict [07:12] I will check now [07:12] Paladine: if it does help be sure to note it in the bug [07:13] calc: nice! [07:13] i think i ended up being about to move around 30 of them [07:13] er move or close [07:13] nice [07:13] yeah myspell-en-gb is installed, I am gonna uninstall the other english language ones for other countries and see if that helps [07:14] down to 155 undecided/unconfirmed [07:14] Paladine: ok [07:15] calc: nice :) [07:15] Paladine: i am about to be going to bed, if you manage to make it work somehow by doing that be sure to document it, there are various spell check issues similar to what you are seeing in the bug tracker already, so if we can get it resolved it will help close a lot of bug [07:15] sure no problem calc [07:15] sleep well [07:16] thanks :) [07:16] and have a great morning/afternoon/night ;) [07:16] thanks 6am here hehe [07:16] afternoon for Hobbsee in .au ;) [07:17] bbl, hard to keep my eyes open, heh [07:17] nah it made no difference, I removed the other language packs and then reinstalled the en-gb one to make sure it had everything it needed, still segfaults === c1|freaky [i=alpha@team.code-1.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:19] fortunately koffice spell checker works :) [07:33] laters === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-79-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:33] If I put Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 1 on my computer... [07:33] When Tribe 2 comes out, will it update to it automatically? [07:33] not without your intervention. [07:34] But I mean, will the update manager do it all? === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.54.100] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:35] gnomefreak: you here m8? [07:35] idle : 0 days 2 hours 17 mins 24 secs [07:35] crimsun: saw that, thanx [07:36] corevette: it will tell you that there are available packages. [07:36] crimsun: good u are here, could u just put https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/120655 as a wishlist bug [07:36] Launchpad bug 120655 in pidgin "Upgrade pidgin to 2.0.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [07:37] next time please strip the .beta from the url [07:37] crimsun: oops, sorry [07:38] crimsun, who are x maintainers or is this nobody's baby kinda thing? [07:38] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-devel/+packages [07:40] x maintainers? [07:40] as in X.Org? [07:40] that's X-SWAT. [07:40] also, I've marked 120655 as a dupe and changed the master's Summary [07:42] crimsun: thanx [07:45] crimsun: a comment list, the other bug bug 117814 has been declined by Daniel Holbach for gutsy, can we find out the reason? Perhaps because he knew 2.0.2 is going to come soon or some other reason? [07:46] bug #117814 [07:46] Launchpad bug 117814 in pidgin "Please update Pidgin" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117814 [07:47] I don't know offhand. [07:47] My guess is that the reporter nominated a gutsy task [07:47] which should be rejected, since by default the bugs are applicable against the current devel branch [07:48] nominating a gutsy task against the current devel branch is unnecessary and can be declined [07:48] what is the difference between a task and a wishlist? [07:49] wishlist is an Importance [07:49] a task is precisely that [07:50] i.e., you create tasks that correspond to source packages. [07:50] the source packages can originate anywhere - upstream, Debian, Ubuntu releases, etc. [07:50] true [07:51] crimsun: unless it's a milestone [07:53] oh wow, this is so cool, now I can really use reportbug-ng to file upstream bugs like these === Ronald|Laptop [n=ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:54] the last reportbug-ng was broken IIRC [07:54] in fiesty [07:55] sorry for changing tracks in the middle [07:58] it's still broken, iirc. [07:58] requires a MTA or somethign? === Hobbsee ended up editing reportbug to default to debian, and filing bugs with that [08:02] Hobbsee: correct it still requires an MTA, the improvement is atleast I can query bugs & see if it already has been reported [08:02] shirish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/120662 is on the wrong package [08:02] Launchpad bug 120662 in aptitude "aptitude doesn't report broken package dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [08:04] Hobbsee: what do u mean by wrong package? It says aptitude at the top [08:04] shirish: read the error message [08:04] then you see where the broken dep is. [08:05] i cant reproduce the aptitude part of that [08:05] looks local [08:05] Hobbsee: precisely, what I'm saying is aptitude is silent about that broken dependency while apt-get atleast tells the user the error message [08:05] ah ok [08:06] you could just look into the broken dependancy, and fix it. [08:06] and provide a patch, etc. === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee kicks madison-lite [08:10] Hobbsee: no developer here, but got something more [08:10] hurry up...update... [08:11] you can learn. [08:11] I'll update the info. therein [08:11] or you can at least learn to look at error messages, and figure out the problems from tehre [08:11] check for debian bugs on gmailfs too === Hobbsee snorts at this bug report [08:14] shirish: read debian bug 426923 [08:14] Debian bug 426923 in gmailfs "gmailfs: Broken package : depends on unavailable python-fuse > 2.2-2" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/426923 [08:14] add that to your bug in LP, via "affects another distro", and put the package as gmailfs, not aptitude. === Hobbsee hugs reportbug-ng === Hobbsee adds it in [08:17] Hobbsee: thanx [08:18] shirish: you should get into bug triage - actually getting your bugs in the right place, with the right information, will get them fixed quicker [08:18] although that one will be ignored until upstream fixes it, so there's not much point in keeping teh ubuntu bug open [08:18] Hobbsee: I'll love to and I try to do the right thing each time. It's just I don't know much , of course each day I learn something new [08:19] shirish: [16:19] *** The channel topic is "Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/ - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad | Next HUG DAY on June 27th". is some infor [08:19] mation [08:21] today is hug day? [08:21] IIRC it was supposed to be on the the past 13th [08:22] no, it's not [08:22] that's general info on bug stuff [08:22] that's why it says the next hugday is on the 27th. not "HUG DAY TODAY" [08:22] Hobbsee: what is the difference between bug-reporting & bug-triaging, isn't bug-triaging a programming thing [08:22] Hobbsee: I could read that :P [08:22] no [08:22] a lot of bugs are in teh wrong place, or are unconfirmed, ro dont contain enough info [08:23] triagers go around and respond to bugs, ask fro teh required info, etc. [08:23] try to reproduce [08:23] aha, ok then I'm definitely interested === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-30-15.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-244-42.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:25] Hobbsee: I have subscribed to the mailing list, atleast to get started [08:25] cool [08:25] #ubuntu-bugs is the irc channel [08:26] tends to be more activity in there [08:27] thanx [08:27] adding it to my list of channels ;) === premier_ [n=premier@adsl-64-109-164-86.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === makuseru [n=max@210.113.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:41] |pastebin [08:41] pastebin [08:41] ubotu pastebin [08:41] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:52] Hobbsee: are you there still ? [08:52] yes [08:53] i believe that's a case of Hobbsee: ping? [08:53] in which case i would have sent you... [08:53] You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around. [08:53] Hobbsee: ok I tried to submit the pidgin bug upstream but this is the info. I get from there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25809/ [08:53] I know I didn't report the package from that e-mail but where should I have reported that? [08:54] what is this psuedo-header it keeps talking about? [08:54] shirish: did you change Package: pidgin to Package name: pidgin in the bug report? [08:54] it's dying over the fact that you didnt have Package: pidgin [08:54] aha, ok so that's the issue [08:54] yes [08:55] you should follow the instructions where it says "only modify below this liine" or whatever [08:55] because it's automated, and is looking for the specific lines [08:56] Hobbsee: I'm using gmail as report-bug needs this MTA thing & that is pain to configure, as I only want to send messages not receive mail. [08:56] you can make reportbug just use the smtp server. [08:56] how? [08:56] in the reportbug config file. [08:57] aha, didn't know there was a reportbug.config file [08:58] there usually is, for such things [08:59] Hobbsee: dunno if this is the right place, but I would like to do the following === IcemanV9 [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-22-1-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:59] use reportbug-ng to find upstream bugs, and just report them using the tool === coNP_ is now known as coNP [09:01] depending on where upstream is, that's fine [09:01] you can also query for bugs using reportbug [09:02] shirish: fixed. [09:02] shirish: reportbug now uses the default ubuntu SMTP server. [09:02] Hobbsee: ok where is this reportbug.config file? [09:03] use locate === kekZpriester [n=luc@p5494111D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:03] strange doing locate reportbug.config doesn't give anything as well as slocate gives nothing [09:03] try reportbug.conf [09:04] seeing as they usually end in .conf [09:04] still nothing :/ [09:04] sarah@LongPointyStick:~/Desktop$ locate reportbug.conf [09:04] /var/lib/dpkg/info/reportbug.conffiles [09:04] /etc/reportbug.conf [09:04] have you run sudo updatedb first? [09:05] (normally man pages reference such a conffile, too) [09:05] nope, never although have heard about it, what does updatedb do? [09:05] truethat [09:05] man updatedb. [09:05] sure === eobanb [n=eoban@CPE-72-128-87-129.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:05] :) === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-244-42.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:06] aha, its something similar to beagle or tracker doing there stuff, like when one does trackerd [09:06] shirish: manpages are usually your friend, and you're expected to be able to use them when running a development release. [09:07] if you have questions after reading the applicable manpages, or cant find the relevant manpage, it's fine to ask - but the manpages are written for a reason, and people here are often busy actually *developing* gutsy and such. === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.54.100] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:08] sorry was disconnected for a second === IcemanV9_ [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-201-29.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] [17:06] aha, its something similar to beagle or tracker doing there stuff, like when one does trackerd [09:09] [17:06] shirish: manpages are usually your friend, and you're expected to be able to use them when running a development release. [09:09] [17:07] if you have questions after reading the applicable manpages, or cant find the relevant manpage, it's fine to ask - but the manpages are written for a reason, and people here are often busy actually *developing* gutsy and such. [09:11] Hobbsee: in your case very true === fuoco [n=gad@87.69.68.130.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus`Away [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:14] crimsun: what does %s tend to stand for in python? === karmue [n=karli@e178155180.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:14] presumably it's not the same as $s in bash? [09:15] crimsun: reportbug is the particular question [09:16] except EnvironmentError, x: [09:16] ewrite("Warning: opening '%s' failed: %s.\n", attachment, [09:16] etc etc etc [09:17] it's normally a string [09:17] similar to printf syntax [09:17] ahhh.... [09:18] string including spaces? [09:18] don't believe so, but Python's not my primary lang === Hobbsee nods [09:18] makes sense. thanks. [09:19] Hobbsee: I'm still not able to find the reportbug.conf [09:19] sudo updatedb [09:19] shirish@ubuntu:~$ locate reportbug.conf [09:19] which results in empty, do i have to make those files? [09:19] what does "less /etc/reportbug.conf" say? === Hobbsee starts to wonder if shirish even has reportbug installed. === ajmorris_ [n=l337h4x0@220-253-46-80.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:20] (check http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq-strings.html) [09:22] crimsun: thanks [09:22] crimsun: google wasnt finding so much [09:25] ah I see what mistake I did, I installed reportbug-ng & it is just the gui , it needs reportbug also but is not marked as a dependancy or something [09:25] it shouldnt need reportbug - it's an alternative [09:26] what do you think why there is no acroread in gutsy now? [09:26] it seems that feisty and former versions all have that === IcemanV9_ [n=jwvehrs@adsl-75-21-201-29.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Christo] [09:27] coNP: not distributable [09:28] iirc [09:29] Hobbsee: Do you know what has changed (their license or our term for a software being distributable) === fuoco [n=gad@87.69.68.130.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:32] Hobbsee: please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25812/ [09:32] coNP: i'm not sure we were distributing ti legally [09:33] Thanks, Hobbsee. I consider using something else instead. [09:38] Hobbsee: going to have lunch but bbl if you get some idea for me, please lemme know or if you think there is an issue/bug with reportbug-ng even that is cool [09:42] are you guys talking about a new bug reporting system for gutsy? that sounds cool... [09:43] premier_: no, it's reporbug which is mostly used in debian [09:43] it's not apport [09:44] wow, /me has been AFK for quite a while. [09:45] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/27567 [09:45] I get this issue. === Sebastian [n=sb@p50887504.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-244-42.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=agostino@host-84-222-186-91.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8fa03926655a665c] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:26] Hobbsee: back, any ideas what I was doing wrong? or is it some issue with reportbug-ng? [10:26] it's not to do with -ng, definetly [10:27] ok so how should I find out? [10:28] /etc/reportbug.conf doesnt exist for you, presumably? [10:30] nope [10:30] it does not, I did cd /etc [10:30] then did ls report* [10:30] nothing, nda [10:30] nada [10:31] anyone..... are there any memory leak patches released for gutsy yet? i need one [10:31] or if you know how to do it manually .... [10:32] Hobbsee: one thing I can do is uninstall reportbug-ng & then install it again maybe some issue there? [10:32] it. has. nothing. to. do. with. -ng. [10:32] [18:26] it's not to do with -ng, definetly [10:33] ok so what, where the issue could be, tell me what I need to figure out [10:35] the issue is somewhere in reportbug or locate [10:35] er, reportbug only [10:36] you could try reinstalling reportbug, that may help [10:36] Hobbsee: just a sec. [10:36] reportbug != reportbug-ng [10:36] what is with the ! [10:37] != is not equals [10:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about is not equals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [10:37] shirish: != means not = === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:38] I'm getting confused so should I install reportbug alongwith reportbug-ng or just reportbug-ng is good enough? === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-244-42.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:39] i'm not sure if reportbug-ng even fully works with ubuntu [10:39] in fact, i think i'ts debian only [10:39] seeing as it's synced direct from debian [10:40] oh ok, I am installing both reportbug as well as reportbug-ng [10:40] maybe send an e-mail to the developer sometime asking about that .conf file [10:41] shirish: what is your problem with reportbug-ng? === KennethP [n=kpo@80.167.165.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:42] coNP: the thing is I just want to be able to send bug-reports not receive, and reportbug-ng requires one to have some kind of MTA [10:42] you not having reportbug.conf is a local problem, so a developer isnt going to be able to help you... 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