[12:15] ok i've got to go to bed, exams and all [12:15] if B-D is fine, then there's that upload [12:15] if not, then there's [12:15] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5562 [12:15] thanks :) === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] crimsun: should all build-deps after cdbs be moved to b-d-i? [12:20] does it really matter for an arch-all only package? as it got only build once [12:21] (looking) === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] G'night. [12:26] geser: python definitely needs to be moved. It should be safe to move them all as you suggest. === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] ok will move them and upload [12:31] would it be worth making a motu-mud team, since there's a pile of unpackaged MUD servers and clients out there? or would it all fall to another team? === MrDumbo is now known as Vol1mer === Vol1mer is now known as vo11mer [12:33] ryanakca: a subteam of motugames, mayhap? [12:33] ryanakca: would probably make sense to see to it in Debian first [12:35] crimsun: maybe. hmm... yeah === persia notes that motugames has been subsumed by debian-games, and is no longer active. ITP is the way to go. === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-69-249-127-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] what persia typed. [12:41] persia: ok === ryanakca wonders why some people only offer .src.rpm and .i386.rpm for their apps === ryanakca ditches that client === vo11mer is now known as TheDumbo [12:44] ryanakca: http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Development may be of interest. === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.112.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] Those performing merges: please check the +bugs page for the package, and include a section detailing bugfixes from upstream or Debian in the changelog with (LP: #bugnumber) tags to close any bugs addressed by the new Debian revision. === persia updates the wiki [12:51] hmm... what do I do if there's already a package in the repos with the same name as the one I want to package? ex: mcl , http://micans.org/mcl/ [12:51] (in repo), and http://www.andreasen.org/mcl/ , that I want to package [12:52] ryanakca: Pick a new name (mcl-mud maybe?). [12:52] persia: ok [12:54] persia: hmmm... I don't know if it's worth packaging... abandoned, uses python 2.2... gcc-3.3, etc === ryanakca scratches his head === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] ryanakca: Unless you use it, and especially like it, it's probably better to skip then: lots of work to keep it in the archives, and likely lots of bugs that must be fixed in packaging. [12:55] persia: ok === nrl [n=nrl@pdpc/supporter/student/nrl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] More generally, it's not best practice to package everything out there: only the "best-of-class" apps for each category, or programs you find beneficial for your preferred activities. === sevrin [n=sevrin@ns1.clipsalportal.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] we have currently over 600 packages that aren't in Debian [01:01] if no MOTU looks after them, they don't get updated === blueyed [n=daniel@i5387E4C4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] I wonder if we shouldn't add the filing of an RFP as a requirement for package inclusion, except where the package would only be interesting to Ubuntu. [01:05] does somebody know if http://tiber.tauware.de/~lucas/versions/ tracks gutsy or still feisty? [01:08] geser: It looks like feisty to me - I don't see the merges being reported as having happened. [01:20] persia, geser can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-mission-control/+bug/120633? [01:20] Launchpad bug 120633 in telepathy-mission-control "Sync telepathy-mission-control 4.24-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:20] persia, geser seems that unstable guy made an error on the changelog [01:20] written from daniel [01:21] I've debdiffed it [01:21] and there's no changes [01:21] any idea on how can we process it? [01:22] bluekuja: 1) It's best to ask the channel generally, rather than specific individuals. 2) That's the result of a Debian sync from Ubuntu. Nice when it happens. It's probably safe to sync back, but you might want to check with Daniel. [01:22] if he took the ubuntu package and uploaded it to debian unstable, it's ok to credit dholback in the changelog [01:23] persia, ok thanks [01:23] persia, gonna ping daniel for it [01:23] to be sure that we want a sync [01:23] thanks guys, gonna sleep [01:23] cu tomorrow [01:25] cu === stratus [n=stratus@86.157.4.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:08] Heya folks. === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44554.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] hello TheMuso :) [04:21] Hey joejaxx. === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU developers [05:02] XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers [05:02] Original-Maintainer: Martin v. Lwis === StevenK twitches. [05:02] Um... Which package? [05:03] python-xlib [05:03] I'm 80% certain it can get sync'd, so the point is moot. [05:05] whats the best way to get a folder in /usr/lib to be in the library search path when creating a package? [05:05] /usr/lib/yourprogramname === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-22-18-195.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] good day MOTUs === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-041-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-72-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N727P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dynadsl-080-228-202-007.ewetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-041-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-96-181.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] hello, can anybody point me to an article related to creating a metapackage for the apt repository so that the devs of a project can change the name of the .deb and allow anyone with the old version installed to migrate to the new naming standard? [06:08] specifically, the current naming standard is 'python2.x-exe_x.xx.x.deb' and the new name would [hopefully] be 'exe_x.xx.x.deb' === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] you don't need a metapackage to accomplish that [06:15] simply amend debian/control's current python2.x-exe entry to Depends: exe [06:17] it would also be a good idea to amend python2.x-exe's one-line [short] Description to mention [transitional package] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] ok cool [06:19] I'll forward that info to the devs [06:20] the package hasn't actually made it to the universe repository yet and I want to encourage them to rename the .deb [06:20] so when/if a MOTU submits it it will be more relevant [06:25] interesting transition. Why exe and not python-exe? === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac_ [n=tuxmania@59.92.54.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [07:12] <_MMA_> Hobbsee: You might be interested in this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475227 [07:12] _MMA_: neat. [07:12] _MMA_: riddell pointed that out yesterday iirc. looks cool. [07:13] <_MMA_> Cool. :) === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] geser: the cron is disabled due to resources problems on tiber === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bonii [n=bonii@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] j #ubuntu-motu-classroom === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-30-15.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@ACAEDC08.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-72-98.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-041-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dcsmith [n=dcsmith@ip68-1-166-115.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] Hmmmmmm. Why has Xorg eaten 230MiB of RAM? [09:15] Fujitsu: it's hungry [09:15] Obviously. Even Epiphany has eaten less, and I've got at least a hundred tabs open. [09:17] has it been running for a month? :) [09:17] epiphany is probably using all that ram for X server resources it leaked ;) [09:18] Hahah. No, it was rebooted a couple of days ago after I left it running on the kitchen table, unplugged. [09:18] hiya lathiat, Fujitsu, Flannel [09:18] Hi Hobbsee. [09:18] Howdy Hobbsee === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] geser, are you michael vorlon.ping.de? if so, thanks for the upload and the B-D-I stuff :) why are debhelper and cdbs still kept as Build-Depends? [09:24] well, that question could be for anyone === bmm [n=chatzill@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe` [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bostonfalcon [n=supper12@107.116.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [i=tmarble@conference/debconf/x-79b965f024b6c6c2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@LAubervilliers-153-52-16-160.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nuu [i=neuro@host151-149-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AE0D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8fa03926655a665c] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] all MOTUs: can you check and maybe advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5552 ? === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] tsmithe: yes, that's me. debhelper is still in B-D as everything (like dh_clean) which isn't only used in the binary-arch-indep target in debian/rules must be in B-D [10:54] the same for cdbs [11:01] lucas: ups, didn't notice that the files are outdated (as yesterday was also a 15th). I found this service useful. === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@212.Red-88-7-168.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] MOTUs: can you check and maybe advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5552 ? === gizmo [n=gizmo@xdsl-87-78-99-71.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] tobiasschulz: any reason you're packaging it as a native package? [11:09] pochu: ?? [11:09] "native package"? [11:10] tobiasschulz: why the upstream tarball has the "0ubuntu7"? [11:10] And why it hasn't "-0ubuntuX" (the 0 is the Debian revision) [11:10] it has [11:10] ...0ubuntu7 [11:11] 0ubuntu8 [11:11] Sorry, why it hasn't a slash (-) [11:11] -0ubuntuX [11:12] why a shlash? [11:12] pochu: That's a minus, hyphen, or dash. [11:12] slash == / [11:13] why msut there be a - in the version number bofore 0ubuntuX? [11:13] # [11:14] tobiasschulz: yes, dash :) [11:14] tobiasschulz: It's the policy [11:14] tobiasschulz: Because that's how the Debian versioning scheme works, unless it's a native package (ie. is specifically for Debian; there's no upstream releases as such) [11:14] there is an upstream release ^^ [11:15] tobiasschulz: also, please rename the upstream tarball so it's jeliza_.orig.tar.gz, but skip the ubuntu revision number. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] tobiasschulz: also, since it's the first release, use -0ubuntu1, rather than 7 [11:21] but i've iploaded it 8 times to http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5552 while i corrected bugs in the package [11:21] It doesn't matter, as long as you don't upload to the archive :) [11:24] tobiasschulz: you'll learn more with time :) [11:24] As I do :) === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] pochu: liferea v1.2.17 is out, you want to update ? [11:42] current: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/1.2.16b-0ubuntu1 [11:43] Kmos: already updated :) [11:43] I'm waiting slomo to sponsor me ;) [11:43] ha :) ok.. nice work === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44554.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] Can some someone please look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5564 ? This fixes the runtime dependencies so that you can use every java runtime with it === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yosch [i=yosch@conference/debconf/x-72aa3838f7182174] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] the source package swfdec0.4 had a ftbfs due to a dependency problem on 2007-05-03, which seems fixed now (at least it works in my pbuilder). Can someone restart the build-process (or tell me who I have to contact for that)? [12:34] afflux: ask in #ubuntu-devel, any archive admin will reprocess it. [12:35] okay, thank you === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] cd [12:38] persia: Okay, a few issues with sbuild. [12:39] persia: Number one, I miss my pdebuild, since it seems I have to make a source package before I can let sbuild loose on it. Secondly, my amd64 sbuild won't build arch all packages. [12:40] StevenK: `sbuild -A -d gutsy foo.dsc`, and it's handy to generate the right source first, as that way one can just dput source.changes if everything worked well. [12:41] persia: But pdebuild does it for me! [12:42] StevenK: pdebuild builds a source package, then builds the binary from the source in the manner of the buildds, then gives you all the logs and a dput'able source to upload? [12:43] persia: It will do everything but log by default. Logging can be turned on. === persia likes the logs [12:44] StevenK: You could always write sdebuild, which would build the source, and call sbuild :) === Baby [i=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] persia: time to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5564 ? [12:45] Let's see: first decide if it's -S or -S -sa, then build the source, then sbuild. Hmm. I'd use such a script, if it existed. [12:45] man-di: Sure. [12:45] persia: Personally, if I want logs from pdebuild, I pipe it to tee [12:46] StevenK: I think this is a care of preference for different automation :) [12:47] man-di: You don't need REVU for this. Just attach the debdiff to 81876, and subscribe U-U-S (and I'm archiving the REVU, as it's hard to distinguish the latest changes from previous changes). [12:49] persia: ok, thx [12:49] persia: Seems to be. :-) [12:50] sbuild seems a little fragile, too. [12:50] persia: Oh, a complete lack of usage information for sbuild is incredibly irritating. [12:50] StevenK: That's one of the reasons I prefer it. I want it to break locally before it breaks on the buildds. [12:51] persia: I was actually refering to the lvm-snapshot bit, which the buildds don't use. I've seen that go boom twice [12:51] StevenK: Yep. The documentation needs work. I wanted to have a working sbuild for years, but didn't actually get one working until the instructions were put on the wiki. [12:52] StevenK: Are you using the latest schroot, with all the patches? I'm still holding on to sbuild 0.53, but the latest schroot seemed to fix a lot of the LVM-snapshot issues I was having before. [12:53] (Alternately, Kees posted some patches for feisty schroot, if you prefer that) [12:54] I'm using the schroot in Feisty [12:55] StevenK: You need the patches from debian bug 391319 then :) [12:55] Debian bug 391319 in schroot "schroot: leftover processes cause umount to fail" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/391319 [12:55] (otherwise, yes, it's terribly broken) [01:00] persia: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcommons-dbcp-java/+bug/81876 okay this way? [01:00] Launchpad bug 81876 in libcommons-dbcp-java "Dependency on java2-runtime removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] man-di: In terms of bug processing that's perfect. I'll look at the debdiff now (also if you just say "bug nnnnnn", the bot will spew the URL). [01:02] the url was still in m paste buffer so it was easier ;-) [01:03] Naughty TheMuso! [01:03] persia: thanks for taking a look === man-di goes off to sponsor same debian packages [01:03] (His the GPG key id the Debian upload processor complained about) [01:03] Anyone can help me why I cannot sign a package? [01:03] Or better provide a detalied howto? [01:04] StevenK, he tried to upload my package :P [01:04] StevenK, but he missed archive [01:04] ^^ [01:04] He was aiming for Ubuntu? [01:04] yea [01:04] Heh [01:04] that's a merge I did [01:05] and he was following [01:05] ;) [01:05] coNP: what's the problem? [01:05] gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use [01:05] debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... [01:05] debuild: fatal error at line 1166: [01:05] running debsign failed === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] coNP: put "DEBUILD_PRESERVE_ENVVARS=DISPLAY" in ~/.devscripts, or disable your gpg-agent. [01:07] persia: many thanks, seems to work now === RainCT [n=RainCT@212-73-35-186.red-acceso.airtel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] man-di: Um.. Why do we want to revert that change? It looks like Mathias intentionally applied it for dapper, and I don't have enough context to know either 1) why it was applied, or 2) why it can be dropped now. === gizmo [n=gizmo@xdsl-84-44-184-111.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] persia: the fix makes it possible to not install gcj/kaffe when e.g. using eclipse with SUN JDK [01:13] this fix was never correct [01:17] persia: see also bug #119560 which was acked by you [01:17] Launchpad bug 119560 in libcommons-dbcp-java "Please sync libcommons-dbcp-java 1.2.1-5 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119560 [01:17] and then a merge reintroduced the changes === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] geser: That's part of why I asked. I personally think the sync was best, don't understand why the merge was processed, and don't want to be involved in an upload war. [01:20] as bluekuja is here, we can ask him why it was merged [01:21] geser: didnt see the bug on lp [01:21] so I processed it like every merge [01:21] I already talked about it with man-di [01:22] ??? [01:22] man-di, are you talking about libcommons-java ? [01:23] you pinged me that day? === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] bluekuja: Please check more carefully for package bugs and package versions in the future. Also, based on your comment, I'll upload the reversion for ibcommons-dbcp-java [01:23] persia, yeah sorry, really didnt see it on lp [01:23] so I cannot do anything [01:23] ;) [01:23] bluekuja: libcommons-dbcp-java [01:23] man-di, yeah === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNPP [n=conp@pool-017e3.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N809P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] Can you please sync revu keyring (I joined u-u-c team in lp recently)? [01:50] coNP: sure, i'tll be ~10 mins, iirc [01:52] Thanks, I guess I can figure it when it is done, since I can start uploading packages then. Am I right? [01:53] coNP: i'll tell you [01:53] oh, thanks :) [01:53] coNP: seeing as i can see the output here :) [01:53] wow :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] coNP: it's done [02:00] wow, exactly 10 :P [02:00] thanks, Hobbsee [02:01] no problem [02:01] It is a pity I am not done yet. Can someone hint if it is a pbuilder setup error or a dependency error in my package: http://pastebin.ca/569742 [02:02] coNP: means you dont have libpango1.0-dev as a build-dep [02:03] (apt-cache search pango, and pick a -dev package that looks likely, and try it) [02:03] Oh, thanks! [02:04] no problem [02:05] stange that something would depend on pango alone without gtk2. [02:06] it is Openbox [02:06] no gtk.* for sure [02:06] if openbox doesn't use gtk then what toolkit does it use? [02:07] I guess none === pochu [n=emilio@35.Red-83-63-199.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] coNP: http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Installing [02:08] thanks, Q-FUNK === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-081-128.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] coNP: no problemo. it's generally a good idea to look at a project's homepage before building. they usually include a fairly accurate description of the dependencies. [02:11] I wanted to update the package and first tried to build without adding anything. Actually I wasn't even sure if it is a pbuilder or a packaging error. [02:11] but now configure is done, make is invoked [02:12] it's a packaging error [02:12] as in, you need the extra build dep [02:12] Okay, thanks. I understand now. [02:12] It is even compiling now properly. [02:13] This dependency was the only one missing [02:13] :) [02:13] groovy :) === SlimG [n=slimg@84.205.58.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] geser: before you start working on the quodlibet-plugins bug: I just got a mail from gutsy-changes that Andrea Veri has already uploaded -1ubuntu2 === gizmo [n=gizmo@xdsl-84-44-241-40.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] How do I make my .deb package respond correctly to a apttitude purge ? I guess I have to add an additional script to remove config files..? [02:16] s/apttitude/aptitude/ [02:16] heya TheMuso [02:16] SlimG: thats normally done all by dpkg automatically [02:16] afflux, what's the problem? [02:16] SlimG: when the files are known as conffiles [02:17] afflux: I know, guess who sponsored the upload :) [02:17] SlimG: unless your package manually copies files during postinst, it should be removed by dpkg automatically. [02:17] SlimG: configurations files need to handled in *.postrm [02:17] sync :) === coNP wants to earn bonus points now (based on dholbach's excellent recipe) [02:17] geser, bluekuja: oops. Maybe the launchpad mailinglist was a bit slow :) [02:18] coNP: brownie points? what's the recipe? [02:18] Q-FUNK: :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate [02:18] afflux, np ;) [02:19] man-di: I'm referring to those files stored in $HOME/.appname/ ,I guess these have to be removed with a .postrm file then [02:19] SlimG: files in someone's home directory should never be touched, as a ground rule. [02:19] Q-FUNK: not even with purge? [02:21] Q-FUNK: well, thanks for your ground rule [02:21] man-di: thanks for your help! [02:21] SlimG: the user might end up installing a locally-compiled package or re-use configs with a similar package, so no. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] lovely updating guide he wrote, dholbach. [02:22] here, I guess i'm just used to the wonders of uscan. === RainCT [n=RainCT@212-73-35-186.red-acceso.airtel.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] Oh I guess something went wrong. Can someone help me delete the wrong files from revu? === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@ACAEDC08.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] MOTUs: can someone look at this and maybe advocate please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5565 [02:38] dput says dcut might help for official Debian uploads which is not the case I guess === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:46] tobiasschulz: you need to create a file called "compat" in the debian/ dir, with a '5' in it (which is the debhelper compatibility) [02:48] tobiasschulz: echo 5 > debian/compat [02:49] sync :) [02:49] ok [02:51] pochu: can you help me how to delete an uploaded file from REVU? [02:51] coNP: Which files? [02:51] coNP: I'm not a REVU admin, but you can archive it, can't you? [02:52] persia: openbox_3.4* [02:52] tobiasschulz: also, you'd have to fix this: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/jeliza-0706160705/linda [02:52] I uploaded the wrong files (i386 instead of the source) [02:52] and as I wanted to dput it again it said it were not possible [02:52] coNP: Deleted. Try again. [02:53] persia: thanks [02:53] For general consumption: REVU does not support dcut (as far as I can tell). [02:53] Yep, I tried and failed. Therefore I asked if someone can please help :) [02:54] Hobbsee: are you a REVU admin? [02:54] pochu: not admin - but i have access. why? [02:54] siretart and ajmitch are, but they don't seem to be around... [02:54] what do you need? [02:55] no, revu doesnt support dcut, neither does upload.ubuntu.com === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] morning all! [02:56] How can I provide a file to a pbuilder that is not in Ubuntu yet? Actually I want to compile obconf that depends on openbox. I only have a self-built package from this version. [02:57] is aurora.ubuntuwire.com offline? [02:57] coNP: You can either 1) create a local repository, modify sources.list in the tarfile, pbuilder update, or 2) manually install the new software in the tarball. #1 is much better. [02:57] pochu: how can i fix that: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/jeliza-0706160705/linda [02:58] persia: sorry, which tarball you mean? [02:58] geser: Dead for me (I can reach the router). [02:58] ew. i tend to prefer 2. === mok0 [n=mok@0xc3d7556d.slnxr4.ras.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] coNP: the pbuilder tarfile. [02:58] geser: has been for the last week, i think === Hobbsee notes that PPA makes #1 much easier. [02:59] Hobbsee: After one is done with experimenting with #2, one needs to regenerate the tarball. === coNP tends to asks stupid a/o newbie questions today: what is PPA? [02:59] dpkg-buildpackge -S -as [02:59] coNP: personal package archives. LP thing. sor tof exists [02:59] (not really yet - hasn't been announced) === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] is the arch-all packages bug in PPA fixed already? [03:00] how can i fix that: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/jeliza-0706160705/linda [03:01] ? [03:01] Who is the person in charge of the REVU programming? [03:01] mok0: siretart [03:01] geser: no idea [03:01] Hobbsee: thx [03:03] mok0: yes? [03:04] siretart: Oh, I just thought it would be cool to have an XML feed of the revu comments etc. [03:05] siretart: There's a python module to do it === Lamego [n=lamego@a83-132-143-51.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] How could I check out PPA? [03:08] Is it possible? [03:08] siretart: I guess the correct term is RSS feed [03:09] siretart: just a suggestion [03:10] tobiasschulz: I'm not sure, but try changing "Its" with "It's" [03:11] siretart: gotta go, email me if you want to discuss further [03:11] pochu, same thing I said him to do [03:11] :) === mok0 [n=mok@0xc3d7556d.slnxr4.ras.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:11] that char is not allowed [03:12] bluekuja: hmm, I can't see where you told him that :) [03:13] pochu, he pmed me ;) [03:13] Ah, that explains it :) [03:13] :) [03:13] ^^ [03:16] tobiasschulz: also, create jeliza.desktop inside debian/, instead of usr/share/applications. Then install it with dh_install [03:19] persia: how can I create an own repository? Or maybe add a source package to the pbuilder tgz? [03:22] coNP: For real private repository management, I believe falcon is the current recommendation, but you can cheat by uploading to any FTP or HTTP (including 127.0.0.1), with a subdirectory for your private distribution, and a correctly formatted Packages.gz. Someone else might be able to give more detailed advice. === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-67fe75cf5e44bbfd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] coNP: Also, dpkg-scanpackages might help (depending on what you do). === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-a278ae30d322bfa6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] i've fixed the bug, it was the "" char! [03:29] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5568 === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@ACAEDC08.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.3.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Hi all [03:35] persia: What exactly should I insert to a "Source.gz" file (I guess from debian/control, etc.) [03:35] Ok. I have a very frustrating problem with a package. Attempting to upload a merged qjackctl package for someone, and no matter what I try, even using Ubuntu's .orig.tar.gz file, I still get an MD5sum error. [03:35] Sid's orig and gutsy's orig have different MD5sums, even though there is no difference in package contents. [03:35] TheMuso: where does teh md5sum error come in? [03:35] Suggestions welcome. [03:36] Hobbsee: Soyuz says the MD5sum of a file, I assume its the orig, but it doesn't say, doesn't match. [03:36] I don't have an email to refer to, as I deleted it in frustration. [03:37] right [03:37] persia: when will the bugfix for libcommons-dbcp-java be marked fix released? Will be it done automatically? [03:38] TheMuso: can you dump the packages somewhere, or maybe uplaod it again, and get the rejected email? [03:38] TheMuso: dunno how best to help, when i cant see the thig [03:38] Hobbsee: I have done the latter. [03:38] *thing [03:38] okay === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] man-di: Um. Let me check the .changes file. It's supposed to be automated. [03:39] TheMuso: The md5sums typically come from different timestamps in the gzip part. [03:39] TheMuso: Um.. The *differing* md5sums typically.. etc. [03:39] coNP: In the root of the target archive directory. === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] sorry I might not be clear I know the structure of a repository [03:40] I just don't know what to put in the Sources file [03:40] coNP: Are you publishing source files? === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@ACAEDC08.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] Rejected: [03:41] MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existent file in archive [03:41] Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack [03:41] verification. [03:41] coNP: dpkg-scansources ... | gzip > Sources.gz does everything for you [03:41] thanks man-di [03:42] shawarma: no I try to build packages depending on other packages built by myself [03:42] man-di: Not in this case. The syntax is (LP: #bugnumber) rather than (LP: bugnumber). Sorry for missing that. Please mark "FIx Released" when you think appropriate (some say upload, some say build. I generally follow build). [03:42] coNP: Then you don't need a Sources.gz. [03:42] http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/qjackctl [03:42] changes file and dsc file aren't signed, but thats basically it. [03:42] persia: sorry for my mistake [03:43] shawarma: then how do I tell my pbuilder to use the my brand new source package? [03:43] coNP: You.. Um.. don't? [03:43] coNP: You need you brand new *binary* packages? [03:44] Err I am wrong, they build-depend on my brand new source package. [03:44] (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5568): [03:44] > 2) The package doesnt appear to do anything dur to the build: rule. Is the C++ code intended to compile? If not, why not? (README.Debian-source is a good place for the answer to this question). [03:44] > 3) If the C++ is intended to be compiled, you may want to check the library packaging guidelines. [03:44] It's a QT application, so it is compiled using [03:44] qmake jeliza.pro -o Makefile && make [03:45] TheMuso: looking [03:45] coNP: No. They build-depend on binary packages. [03:45] Yep. You are right. [03:46] TheMuso: I have a qjackctl_0.2.22-2ubuntu1 already installed. Doesn't one need an upstream version bump before making an upload that includes orig.tar.gz in source.changes? [03:46] Hobbsee: As I said, the md5 of the orig in sid is different to Ubuntu's, but I used the ubuntu one for the pkg. [03:46] TheMuso: did you have a bug # that you were working from? this is a sponsorship? [03:46] Hobbsee: Yes. === Hobbsee hands TheMuso the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:47] TheMuso: Which bug? [03:47] hang on... [03:47] i've found the problem === Hobbsee waits for the rejected mail [03:47] persia, I did it [03:47] e.g the debdiff [03:47] bluekuja: No. Your sponsor did it :) You were helping. Thanks again. [03:48] TheMuso: use this widely. lionel is your target. [03:48] Ok, twas me just not checking if it already existed, just like the original merger didn't. [03:48] persia, oh :D [03:48] er, wisely [03:48] Hobbsee: There's already a 0.2.22-2ubuntu1 in the archive? [03:48] TheMuso: ^^ [03:48] shawarma: yep [03:48] shawarma: I know. [03:48] Hobbsee: Not for you :) [03:48] shawarma: yes [03:48] I didn't check, as I assumed... [03:48] So.. Why upload it againg? [03:48] Hobse: What I did ? [03:49] rah [03:49] Hobbsee: What I did ? [03:49] bluekuja: DId you check before you filed the bug? [03:49] TheMuso, yes [03:49] who did it? [03:49] lionel: wasnt what i thought. i thought you'd sponsored without marking teh bug as such [03:50] TheMuso: lionel's done the merge, without checking if anyone else had first, it looks like. or bluekuja hasnt seen that lionel's already done the merge. [03:50] Which package? [03:50] lionel: qjackctl [03:50]