[12:56] <asac> hmm
[12:56] <asac> bluekuja: still there?
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: i don't know ... thats indeed wiert
[12:56] <bluekuja> asac: yeah :)
[12:58] <asac> bluekuja: i can take a look at the debdiff, but will probably not be able to upload now :)
[12:58] <asac> bluekuja: where is it?
[12:58] <asac> what bugs are fixed?
[12:59] <bluekuja> asac: it has been uploaded some mins ago
[12:59] <bluekuja> :)
[12:59] <bluekuja> working on a merge right now
[12:59] <bluekuja> :)
[12:59] <asac> bluekuja: even better :)
[12:59] <bluekuja> :)
[01:02] <asac> bluekuja: do you have thunderbird 2.0 ?
[01:03] <bluekuja> 1.5 currently
[01:03] <asac> bluekuja: are the fonts ugly for you in message texts?
[01:03] <asac> ok
[01:03] <bluekuja> asac: gonna test it tomorrow
[01:03] <bluekuja> if you want
[01:03] <bluekuja> :)
[01:03] <asac> cool
[01:24] <bluekuja> asac: night
[01:24] <bluekuja> :)
[01:31] <asac> night
[01:41] <gnomefreak> night
[01:41] <gnomefreak> grrrr
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> great
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> did everyone see Brian's eamil to the bug squad
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> we can now use bughelper to search by last commented date
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> this will help us weed out untouched bugs
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2007-June/000552.html
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> I'll do a full write up later
[05:18] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: im not here but are we gonna hav ea wiki on how to use bughelper?
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[11:33] <gnomefreak> asac: you here this weekend?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 120621 can you please test on 64bit
[11:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120621 in gnash "[gutsy] gnash 0.8.0 will not play youtube, auto codec installation not working, other videos not working" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120621
[11:48] <hjmf> are crash reports for gutsy open?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> no
[11:49] <hjmf> bug 120634
[11:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120634 in firefox "[GUTSY]  firefox crashed" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120634
[11:49] <gnomefreak> the report you get when something crashes is an empty core file named core
[11:49] <gnomefreak> unless the core file is a new bug in apport dont know
[11:49] <hjmf> ah, maybe that's why that reports lacks of everything :)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> its annoying as shit when trying to debug a crash
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i cleaned out the proposed memebers as none of them ever followed up
[12:00] <gnomefreak> asac: with iceape set as default browser i can only open a link in tbird if iceape is already running
[12:13] <asac> gnomefreak: i tested gnash a thousand times
[12:13] <asac> it works here
[12:13] <gnomefreak> with epiphany?
[12:13] <asac> firefox ... but should not make big difference
[12:13] <gnomefreak> that was one browser i know i failed to test until this am
[12:14] <asac> hmm
[12:14] <gnomefreak> i didnt think so either and epiphany works fine here
[12:14] <asac> ... installing ephy in gutsy chrrot now
[12:14] <gnomefreak> but i was wondering if maybe 64bit or 64 with a 32bit would change results
[12:15] <gnomefreak> what do i say "are you crazy works like a charm here"
[12:16] <gnomefreak> just covering all bases before i tell him its unreproducible
[12:22] <gnomefreak> asac: what icon are they dragging? i cant drag any of them on gutsy
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: not its just that the icon is tooo big :)
[12:23] <asac> e.g. if you drag the start menu entry to desktop
[12:23] <gnomefreak> oh start menu
[12:24] <gnomefreak> wow
[12:24] <gnomefreak> that is huge
[12:25] <gnomefreak> give me a couple of hours i should have it fixed
[12:31] <gnomefreak> asac: where in rules would i add that job? conifg options?
[12:31] <asac> no
[12:31] <gnomefreak> for patch
[12:36] <asac> gnomefreak: i told the dark lord to come here next time
[12:36] <asac> to learn how to build latest firefox from bzr :)
[12:37] <asac> you think you can explain that?
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: do you really want to fix it ? ... now that the_dark_lord has applied to volunteer?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> if im here i should beable to
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: good ... just as a reminder, its just
[12:37] <gnomefreak> asac: i can fix for feisty (preview)
[12:38] <asac> tarballs/ directory
[12:38] <asac> next to
[12:38] <asac> bzr clone directory
[12:38] <asac> then go to bzr clone directory and run bzr bd --merge .+
[12:38] <asac> :)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> is he gonna make patch or are you making patch
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... but that would mean that oyu developed the fix for gutsy as well
[12:38] <asac> and that would remove the task from dark lords task list :)
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: he :)
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: i hope he ca fix rules and push that branch to me
[12:39] <asac> then i can pull over that commit to my branch ... done
[12:39] <gnomefreak> i need to look at rules file
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: but first step is that he knows how to build
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: at best from bzr, because its so easy to pull changes over then
[12:40] <asac> gnomefreak: i thikn that should occupy him at least a day or so :)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: im thinking if i can make patch ill make it if not rather for his first time you or me make it
[12:40] <asac> he?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> get him to build first (its a big enough task on its own
[12:40] <gnomefreak> you dont want to directly change rules file right?
[12:40] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... but the icon problem is not really pressing either :)
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: so lets keep the fruit hanging there imo :)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> just teach him basics of building atm?
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: i have no idea atm where to fix it best :)
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... tell him how he can clone bzr ... and build with bzr bd --merge --dont-purge .
[12:41] <gnomefreak> k
[12:42] <asac> and keep the icon problem existing, so there is a goal he wants to come to
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ok while i have a few im gonna set up build for bzr for ff
[12:45] <gnomefreak> what did you push to bzr 18 minutes ago?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ah nvm i see it
[12:46] <asac> yeah ... some changelog changes
[12:46] <gnomefreak> we need a mozillateam branch for 2.0.0.x ff
[12:46] <asac> i dropped lots of details from patches that will got to a distromod extension
[12:46] <asac> gnomefreak: if you want, go ahead and create it
[12:47] <asac> :)
[12:47] <asac> just pull mine and push it to mozillateam
[12:47] <gnomefreak> bzr branch --use-existing http://.....
[12:47] <asac> why use existing?
[12:47] <asac> i never used that option
[12:47] <gnomefreak> because last time i tried bzr branch http:// it failed maybe use sftp?
[12:48] <asac> he? ... no use http to branch from my branch
[12:48] <asac> that should work
[12:48] <gnomefreak> said this is not a branch
[12:48] <asac> btw, for me youtube works in gnash
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i grab using http:// but to create branch is it http or sftp
[12:48] <asac> aeh in epiphany :)=
[12:48] <gnomefreak> asac: i figured it would
[12:48] <asac> gnomefreak: to create you need sftp
[12:48] <asac> to mozillateam branch
[12:49] <asac> with --create-prefix
[12:49] <gnomefreak> that would be why
[12:49] <asac> (but gutsy bzr should create prefix even without that option)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> ill find out :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: i need an orig.tar with the firefox source tar in it for bzr building?
[12:59] <asac> yeah
[12:59] <asac> just grab the current gutsy orig
[01:00] <asac> you have to put it in tarballs directory
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ok no need for upstream source tar
[01:00] <asac> no
[01:00] <asac> all should be ready
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ah ok cool
[01:01] <asac> which tbird version is in gutsy?
[01:01] <asac> .4~rc1 right?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.4+1
[01:02] <gnomefreak> -0ubuntu1
[01:02] <gnomefreak> yes tbird that is right ~rc
[01:03] <gnomefreak> sorry
[01:03] <asac> so need to hurry :)
[01:03] <asac> no need i mean
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[01:05] <gnomefreak> hes gone (for the day i guess)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> im just setting everything up and getting my notes ready
[01:06] <gnomefreak> make my life easy when he gets ready
[01:06] <asac> yeah ... i will be out soon
[01:07] <asac> will be here tomorrow again i guess
[01:07] <gnomefreak> i might
[01:07] <asac> because my gf has to work :)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> he comes back on monday would be best
[01:07] <gnomefreak> yuck working on a sunday
[01:07] <asac> yeah ... she wants to gather some money :)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> makes sense
[01:08] <asac> hehe ... yeah ;)
[01:08] <asac> i don't know ... maybe he comes back today as well
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[01:08] <asac> i told him to come here
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ok he comes if im here ill help him if not than wait till monday i guess
[01:10] <asac> gnomefreak: someone complains that 2.0.0.4 tbird is not in feisy yet
[01:10] <asac> (i guess he means preview archive)
[01:10] <asac> dunno if it makes sense to push rc1 build there
[01:10] <gnomefreak> nope its there iirc
[01:10] <asac> otherwise lets wait till monday
[01:10] <gnomefreak> no
[01:11] <asac> really ... is rc1 already in there?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.4 is not
[01:11] <gnomefreak> hold on a sec
[01:11] <gnomefreak> its there
[01:12] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/
[01:13] <asac> yeah probably its amd64
[01:13] <asac> my bad then
[01:14] <gnomefreak> no
[01:14] <gnomefreak> thats not the reason
[01:16] <gnomefreak> isnt tbird the one that the version you gave me for preview is lower than what was in there already there but not sure how
[01:16] <gnomefreak> we said screw it let them manully do it
[01:16] <gnomefreak> wasnt that tbird?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> btw i pulled firefox 2.0.0.4 out of that repo for now
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[01:20] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... bzr branch you mean?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> no it was tbird but it was 2.0.0.0 that we made lower than what we had in htere
[01:22] <gnomefreak> i will test in chroot if its grabbing it sometime today
[01:23] <gnomefreak> thunderbird: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.0.0.4~rc1-0ubuntu0.mt1
[01:23] <gnomefreak> its there
[01:24] <gnomefreak> maybe he meant 64 bit
[01:26] <asac> yes i think so
[01:26] <gnomefreak> also btw the java issue is in firefox not java
[01:26] <asac> i told him on monday he will get an update :/
[01:27] <gnomefreak> i never saw this convo so i couldnt tell you
[01:27] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... i can't deny that but i never was able to get a grib on it
[01:27] <asac> can you reproduce=?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:27] <gnomefreak> all the time
[01:27] <asac> what is the testcase?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> well seeing as java isnt listed in plugins for a start
[01:28] <gnomefreak> any java applets fail in ff
[01:28] <asac> why couldn't you see that problem last time i asked? was that still an older ffox?
[01:28] <asac> gnomefreak: so its not listed .... hmmm
[01:28] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you see on the console?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> dont know it worked for a while than it stopped working
[01:29] <asac> are there some errors spit out when running and trying to access page with java applet?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> i havent tried console but it seems to be missing symlink
[01:29] <asac> please verify that the symlinks are in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[01:29] <asac> and then see what happens on console
[01:30] <gnomefreak> libgnashplugin.so  libunixprintplugin.so  mozplugger.so
[01:30] <gnomefreak> only 3 there
[01:33] <gnomefreak> nothing very usful
[01:33] <gnomefreak> useful
[01:35] <gnomefreak> asac: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/569717
[01:37] <gnomefreak> thats full output from homepage to end where it couldnt load game room in pogo
[01:53] <gnomefreak> damnit
[01:54] <gnomefreak> i cant create the branch wtf is going on
[01:57] <asac> gnomefreak: the log is a gnash output
[01:57] <gnomefreak> yes i know
[01:57] <bluekuja> asac: one of my packages has been tried to upload to unstable instead of gutsy -.-
[01:57] <gnomefreak> as i said its useless
[01:57] <asac> gnomefreak: can you uninstall gnash
[01:57] <asac> to remove the clutter?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: in changelog make it gutsy
[01:58] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, it was gutsy :)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> check control file than
[01:58] <asac> bluekuja: then it will just be denied
[01:58] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, he uploaded to debian
[01:58] <asac> bluekuja: no need to worry
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:58] <bluekuja> asac: ok :)
[01:58] <asac> bluekuja: if sponsor has used a key that is not in debian keyring ... then even less to bother
[01:58] <bluekuja> asac: yeah, he's not a DD yet
[01:58] <asac> but gutsy should prevent it from being accepted for unstable :)
[01:59] <bluekuja> hehe
[01:59] <asac> bluekuja: then .... /dev/null
[01:59] <bluekuja> yup
[01:59] <bluekuja> :)
[02:04] <gnomefreak> why is bzr branch sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x  not working )--create-prefix fails as well
[02:05] <gnomefreak> asac: no errors without gnash
[02:05] <gnomefreak> wouldnt it need to use java to error?
[02:06] <asac> gnomefreak: are the links in place?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> no
[02:06] <asac> show ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:06] <asac> gnomefreak: then the links are obviously missing
[02:06] <asac> is java plugin package actually installed?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> asac: yes that is what i said its failing to create links but only in firefox so maybe you removed something from latest?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[02:07] <gnomefreak> it was there before last upload of firefox
[02:11] <bluekuja> asac: found out something on debian changelog
[02:12] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm ... sounds strange
[02:12] <bluekuja> asac:   * Now installing missing binaries: msexport, qgis_help
[02:12] <bluekuja>     (closes: #423989)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> total 12
[02:12] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9136 2007-06-01 12:43 libunixprintplugin.so
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   35 2007-06-06 19:27 mozplugger.so -> ../../mozilla/plugins/mozplugger.so
[02:12] <gnomefreak> is the ouput from command above
[02:13] <asac> yeah ... no links
[02:13] <bluekuja> asac: it FTBFS in debian too
[02:13] <asac> and in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ?
[02:13] <bluekuja> asac: http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=qgis;ver=0.8.0-4;arch=amd64;stamp=1181918945
[02:13] <asac> bluekuja: yeah
[02:13] <bluekuja> it sux^^
[02:13] <asac> bluekuja: did it ever build according to buildd's?
[02:13] <bluekuja> nope
[02:13] <asac> bluekuja: i doubt it did
[02:13] <gnomefreak> 07:30 <      gnomefreak > libgnashplugin.so  libunixprintplugin.so   mozplugger.so
[02:13] <bluekuja> :P
[02:13] <gnomefreak> libgnash im sure is gone atm
[02:14] <bluekuja> asac: he introduced some changes that messed everything up
[02:14] <asac> bluekuja: do you really want to take over maintainership of that package? better ask for removal
[02:14] <gnomefreak> this is pissing me off the branch fails to create
[02:14] <asac> how old is it?
[02:14] <bluekuja> asac: I'm merging it for ubuntu
[02:14] <asac> gnomefreak: what are you trying to do ... to clone (aka branching) ... or to push (aka creating a branch)
[02:14] <bluekuja> asac: currently debian got a maintainer that uploaded it
[02:15] <bluekuja> also with FTBFS
[02:15] <gnomefreak> im trying to make mozillateam firefox branch and something is really weirs
[02:15] <asac> bluekuja: yes but since when does the package exist
[02:15] <gnomefreak> weird
[02:15] <gnomefreak> if i use name trunk it works
[02:15] <gnomefreak> if i use what i want it fails
[02:15] <gnomefreak> bzr branch sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/trunk firefox_trunk   << works
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[02:16] <asac> yeah
[02:16] <gnomefreak> bzr branch sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x firefox_2.0.0.x  << does not
[02:16] <bluekuja> asac: 2004
[02:16] <asac> gnomefreak: that branch does not exist
[02:16] <asac> you have to branch my branch
[02:16] <asac> ... next push it to the mozillateam url
[02:16] <asac> bluekuja: and it never build since then?
[02:16] <gnomefreak>  bzr branch sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x ubuntu-2.0.0.x  <<doenst
[02:16] <asac> bluekuja: when was last upload?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> commit and push?
[02:17] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to branch *my* branch first
[02:17] <asac> then push that to sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x
[02:17] <bluekuja> asac: seems only on 9386
[02:17] <gnomefreak> i cloned yours already
[02:17] <asac> ok
[02:17] <bluekuja> asac: but it fails here
[02:17] <asac> then just push
[02:17] <asac> bluekuja: yes ... does a grave bug exist?
[02:17] <asac> otherwise post
[02:18] <asac> and if no answer pops up ... request removal of that package from debian
[02:18] <asac> bluekuja: if the maintainer couldn't prepare a buildable package... it has to go
[02:18] <bluekuja> asac: yeah, you're right, let mesee if there is a open bug
[02:18] <asac> bluekuja: actually its severity serious
[02:18] <bluekuja> yeah
[02:19] <asac> post one if not ... then wait a bit ... and request removal of package
[02:19] <asac> if it never build, it should not be in ubuntu
[02:19] <asac> is it in ubuntu?
[02:19] <bluekuja> asac: yeah
[02:19] <asac> how comes if it never built?
[02:19] <bluekuja> asac: debian tracker is plenty of FTBFS
[02:20] <asac> bluekuja: long standing?
[02:20] <asac> old bugs?
[02:20] <bluekuja> they are marked done
[02:20] <bluekuja> for now
[02:21] <bluekuja> asac: but some builds worked out
[02:21] <bluekuja> http://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=qgis
[02:22] <bluekuja> asac: no
[02:22] <bluekuja> they failed
[02:22] <bluekuja> only i386
[02:22] <bluekuja> seems to be ok
[02:22] <bluekuja> (because installed)
[02:23] <asac> i386 has probably never been build on a buildd
[02:23] <asac> bluekuja: http://buildd.debian.org/build.cgi?pkg=qgis
[02:24] <asac> bluekuja: your not telling the truth
[02:24] <asac> it build well in the past
[02:24] <asac> so either help maintainer to fix it ... or wait till he fixes it
[02:24] <bluekuja> i386	0.8.0-4	Installed	Building	2007 Apr 25 22:48:07	
[02:24] <bluekuja> is marked as installated
[02:24] <bluekuja> so he made it working
[02:24] <bluekuja> (dunno how)
[02:25] <bluekuja> asac: I report a bug
[02:28] <bluekuja> asac: so we can try to see what we can do
[02:31] <bluekuja> asac: severity serious?
[02:31] <bluekuja> or grave?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ok im out for a bit its still pushing
[02:44] <asac> serious
[02:44] <asac> bluekuja: ^^
[02:44] <bluekuja> ok
[02:44] <bluekuja> :)
[02:44] <asac> if it builds nowhere one might argue its grave as well
[02:44] <asac> but for now its just a breach of policy ;)
[02:45] <asac> package must build on all architectures that build on previous uploads
[02:45] <asac> bluekuja: but if there are already FTBFS bugs
[02:45] <asac> you don't need to post
[02:45] <asac> just wait
[02:45] <bluekuja> asac: they are marked as done
[02:45] <bluekuja> ^^
[02:46] <asac> whats the package name?
[02:46] <bluekuja> qgis
[02:46] <asac> ok
[02:46] <asac> your bug is good i guss
[02:46] <bluekuja> yup
[02:48] <asac> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-flash/packages/gnash/trunk/?op=log&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1
[02:48] <asac> she really messed up gnash
[02:49] <asac> i mean i just cleaned up the mess
[02:49] <asac> now she did it again
[02:49] <asac> :/
[02:49] <asac> compare 115 to 117
[02:49] <asac> what a mess
[02:50] <asac> apparenty she embbeded a gui.tgz.uu file in diff
[02:50] <asac> that contains a duplicate of the gui/ directory
[02:50] <asac> with changes??
[02:51] <asac> i think i have to fork from before that change to some "stable" branch
[02:57] <gnomefreak> i know her
[02:57] <bluekuja> asac; do you have a min for a merge?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> she hangs out in #ubuntu-women (but left a little while ago
[03:02] <gnomefreak> out again
[03:06] <asac> bluekuja: no sorry i have to leave in hurry now
[03:06] <bluekuja> asac: aww oki :)
[03:06] <asac> gnomefreak: i know her two
[03:06] <asac> gnomefreak: but still i am confused ;) ... will talk to her at some point
[03:06] <asac> ok bye all
[03:06] <asac> probably tomorrow
[03:06] <bluekuja> cya :)
=== hjmf is doing a walk through dholbach's firefox bughelper page, the output is improved a lot
[04:08] <hjmf> s/output is/output has
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[07:47] <asac> ok i am in and out
[07:47] <asac> but screen is at least displayed
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[09:39] <asac> gnomefreak: i found a workaround for recent glib borkage
[09:39] <asac> G_SLICE=always-malloc vlc
[09:39] <asac> should fix your vlc crash
[09:46] <asac> gnomefreak: can you confirm that?
[12:10] <asac> gone