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[04:14] <brockoli> can someone help me get mythweb running?  I have mythtv front&backend running fine
[04:14] <brockoli> also have apache2 running
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[05:57] <rogue780> oh I loathe comcast
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[06:51] <kruuli> hey guys! :>
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[07:11] <kruuli> heya superm1 :)
[07:11] <superm1> hey kruuli
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[09:06] <superm1> Daviey, h=ping
[09:06] <superm1> kruuli, you still here?
[09:11] <kruuli> yeah superm1
[09:11] <superm1> kruuli, do you have a spare hard drive you would be able to use to test a change that i'm making?
[09:11] <superm1> its not possible to test it in a VM
[09:11] <superm1> and i dont have any extra drives
[09:13] <kruuli> no i do not .. does it include a reinstall?
[09:13] <superm1> yea it would be a full install (thats why i was saying an extra drive would be ideal)
[09:13] <superm1> i dont know for sure that it is going to work, and i dont want to blow away anything useful on any drives
[09:14] <superm1> i might just run to a best buy and pick up a drive to use for a week or two and return it then i guess
[09:14] <kruuli> i whould have no problem reinstalling on my main drive... just one thing .. dave helped me get the via unichrome drivers to work and i dont know if i can do it on my own :p
[09:14] <superm1> oh i thought you were using nvidia :)  wouldnt even be relavent then...
[09:15] <superm1> the proprietary driver detection and installation is the thing i wanted to test
[09:15] <kruuli> oh ok .. well ive changed it .. using the built in know as i needed a free pci slot
[09:15] <superm1> ah
[09:15] <kruuli> i could dig up my old 20gig from the storageroom and put in my nivida card again if you want to
[09:16] <superm1> well dont worry about it right this minute.
[09:16] <kruuli> aslong as it does not screw up my main install :)
[09:16] <superm1> its going to take a few hours to get everything that needs to be built done
[09:16] <laga> superm1: we should get someone to pay a extra drive and a swapable bay for you
[09:16] <laga> superm1: maybe i can spare a 40G or 120G hdd
[09:16] <superm1> laga, that would make things a lot easier :)
[09:17] <laga> superm1: shipping from germany to the Us doesn't sound too sensible, though
[09:17] <laga> at least air mail is helluva expensive
[09:17] <superm1> good point
[09:18] <kruuli> get a paypal on the mythbuntu site and ill gladly chipp in
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[09:19] <superm1> well i've got a usb external 5 gig drive.  let me see if maybe my work laptop is willing to boot from that
[09:19] <kruuli> if not ill get my stuff together
[09:20] <superm1> ok.  bbiab
[09:29] <superm1> laga, if at all possible could you wrap up the mythweb htaccess code in the near future?
[09:29] <superm1> i've got all the gui ready for it now
[09:32] <laga> superm1: i'll try hard to get some time. next wednesday will be the last part of my finals
[09:32] <superm1> great :)
[09:33] <laga> maybe i can find some time tomorrow instead of browsing my EPG in mythweb
[09:33] <laga> lots of good stuff in there :)
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[09:55] <kruuli> guys .. is there a way to see if my mpeg2 acceleration is enabled?
[09:56] <kruuli> cant test any videos yet as i only get a black screen
[10:28] <kruuli> superm1 did you sort it out?
[10:28] <superm1> kruuli, it looks like my work laptop will be able to boot it
[10:29] <superm1> just need to get it all built/burned
[10:29] <superm1> kruuli, about mpeg2 acceleration - you mean like via-xvmc?
[10:49] <kruuli> yeah
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[10:51] <randyist> Hello all
[10:52] <randyist> can anybody answer questions about Myth buntu ? .. I'm considering using an old system to install it
[10:54] <kruuli> hey randyist .. bet if you post em someone just might :>
[10:57] <randyist> i'm just wondering what kind of Hardware I would need to set up a minimal Mythtv setup. I have an unused 500 Mhx P III computer .. I am just curious what hardware i would need
[11:03] <kruuli> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Requirements
[11:03] <randyist> ah. thank you!
[11:03] <kruuli> some thoughts about hardware there :)
[11:08] <randyist> you're great. thank you so muc
[11:13] <superm1> randyist, will you be waiting a few weeks to setup?
[11:14] <superm1> we'll be having a new alpha coming out within the next two or three weeks hopefully
[11:17] <randyist> yeah. I'll be waiting a little bit
[11:18] <randyist> now I'm just trying to find a cheap Tuner card that has on-board processing
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[11:22] <kruuli> randyist the pvr 150 is a great (and cheap) card imo .. with good support http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PVR-150
[11:23] <randyist> i guess i'm really cheap. .they're all over a hundred bucks ! haha.
[11:23] <randyist> thanks though
[11:24] <kruuli> superm1 any new candy you can tell us about in the new alpha? :>
[11:24] <randyist> oh . never mind .. it's under 100
[11:24] <randyist> man you're good .lol
[11:24] <kruuli> randyist .. well ive been naggin these guys for weeks .. so its really the devs in here you should thank :p
[11:24] <superm1> kruuli, well its gutsy based - so a lot has changed :)
[11:25] <randyist> the linux community is amazing.. I wish i started learning about linux at an earlier age
[11:25] <randyist> people like you make it work though
[11:25] <kruuli> randyist same here started with it like 2 weeks ago :D
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[11:26] <kruuli> superm1 gutsy based says nothing to me :p .. but im sure it will rock :>
[11:27] <superm1> kruuli, the big things that should be noticable with it will be some artwork changes and support for proprietary drivers
[11:27] <superm1> lots of "behind the scenes" stuff is happening though
[11:27] <superm1> with getting it coded so that it can be put into official ubuntu repos rather than have bits and pieces here and there
[11:29] <kruuli> cool .. proprietary drivers? could you take that in swedish please? lol no but what does it mean?
[11:30] <superm1> that means nvidia or ati drivers will be installable directly from mythbuntu install
[11:30] <superm1> without any extra work
[11:30] <kruuli> bah .. no love for the unichrome? :D
[11:30] <superm1> well unichrome is a whole different game
[11:30] <superm1> its on the plan
[11:30] <superm1> but not this alpha
[11:31] <kruuli> hehe i see :>
[11:31] <superm1> along with PVR-350 support
[11:31] <superm1> (for its tv out)
[11:31] <kruuli> cool alot of people will be happy then
[11:34] <kruuli> im in so much trouble :D i only have 1 pci slot on my EPIA-M and the built in soundcard is broken .. so ive sacked the nvidia card trying to get the unichrome to work .. ill be using a pvr - 150 on my pci slot and a zalman eternal usb soundcard .. think it will ever happen? :D
[11:35] <superm1> well i can't say i've ever worked with an external soundcard
[11:35] <superm1> so i can't comment how well that will work
[11:35] <superm1> have you researched whether its supported?
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[11:39] <kruuli> it should be yeah .. atleast the chip is
[11:41] <superm1> well good luck with it then :)
[11:41] <kruuli> hehe thanks :p
[11:42] <kruuli> its a stand alone device .. if you use it in windows you dont need any drivers for it cuz its built in or something and from what i can understand ubuntu should be able to take care of it
[11:49] <superm1> well you haven't tried it yet?
[11:50] <kruuli> nope sure have not :)
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[11:51] <kruuli> Daviey you have!? :D
[11:51] <Daviey> did somebody ping me
[11:51] <kruuli> what modell?
[11:51] <Daviey> hmm.. it's a usb headset - but it is recognised as an alsa sound device
[11:52] <Daviey> the only difference is that it's output is hardwired to headphones
[11:53] <kruuli> ah ok cool :)
[11:59] <kruuli> i have a question .. whats ubuntus version of windows add/remove hardware?
[12:00] <Daviey> Hardware information
[12:00] <Daviey> System -> Prefs' -> Hardware information
[12:00] <Daviey> not exactly eqivilant, but nearest
[12:00] <Daviey> What are you trying to do?
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[12:00] <kruuli> no way to access it in mythbuntu?
[12:00] <Daviey> no
[12:01] <Daviey> what are you trying to do?
[12:01] <superm1> Daviey, i did earlier
[12:01] <superm1> i forget why though
[12:02] <Daviey> you did access it?
[12:02] <kruuli> Daviey nothing right now .. but im going to add new hardware so i was just thinking :)
[12:02] <Daviey> kruuli: tbh, console is better for that
[12:02] <Daviey> kruuli: lspci to list pci devices, lsusb etc
[12:03] <superm1> kruuli, you should try just disabling your on board audio, and starting up with the usb device plugged in
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[12:03] <superm1> it might just work
[12:03] <superm1> as the default device then
[12:04] <Daviey> failing that; use 'alsaswitch' iirc
[12:05] <superm1> or aplay -L
[12:06] <Daviey> can aplay change the default?
[12:06] <superm1> well you can see if its listed there
[12:06] <Daviey> ah
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[12:08] <kruuli> dont have it yet .. as i said just checking :>
[12:08] <superm1> ah
[12:10] <kruuli> lspci and lsusb seems like usefull commands :> compiling a list of usefull command :D
[12:11] <kruuli> is hotplug enabled and functional from install in mythbuntu?
[12:11] <superm1> yes
[12:12] <kruuli> sweet! :D
[12:13] <kruuli> if i cant get this to work im gonna buy the exact setup parker is using .. i wont give up until i got mythbuntu up and running :D
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[12:15] <superm1> parker?
[12:15] <kruuli> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_silent.php
[12:16] <superm1> oh do you know him personally, or just referring to his site?
[12:17] <kruuli> just referring :)
[12:17] <kruuli> he has some great guides on hes site
[12:22] <Daviey> they are great; i've used them aswell.  But he has overcomplicated some of the method
[12:23] <Daviey> or rather; they have now become easyier - and he hasn't updated them