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cruteme | anybody in here that can help me out with some networking issues? | 04:01 |
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cruteme | I'm ex-Gentoo and am having some trouble bending my mind around ubuntu networking | 04:01 |
Kamping_Kaiser | cruteme, ask your question, if someone can help and is here they wwill answer | 04:02 |
Kamping_Kaiser | you may ahve to wait a while | 04:02 |
cruteme | ok... here's the story... I need to use CIDR style ip addresses and I can't seem to do that with the /etc/network/interfaces file | 04:03 |
cruteme | i know how to do it with the ip command line tool | 04:04 |
cruteme | but thats transient | 04:04 |
cruteme | so I just need general guidance on setting up networking | 04:04 |
Kamping_Kaiser | what part isnt workin? you should be able to use netmask | 04:04 |
cruteme | well I've been using CIDR style networking and would rather not go back to using netmasks if I can avoid it | 04:05 |
Kamping_Kaiser | you'd rather type ip/range then an ip line and a netmask line? | 04:06 |
cruteme | yes | 04:06 |
cruteme | is it even possible? | 04:07 |
Kamping_Kaiser | just checking, but it doestn seem to be | 04:07 |
cruteme | yeah I did try it and it failed | 04:07 |
cruteme | thats why I'm here ;-) | 04:07 |
cruteme | next question then... is it possible to use iproute2 as the backend for the network scripts instead of ifconfig? | 04:08 |
Kamping_Kaiser | quick look at the man page indicates no cidr | 04:08 |
Kamping_Kaiser | that i have no idea | 04:08 |
cruteme | I'm kind of accustomed to the flexibility of the gentoo setup... but its a hybrid linux/bsd | 04:09 |
cruteme | the move to a straight up linux init/networking setup is slightly confusing for me | 04:09 |
Kamping_Kaiser | heh. | 04:11 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | in any real way at lest | 04:12 |
cruteme | i really love the hybrid approach that gentoo adopts but it being a source based distro is difficult to maintain | 04:13 |
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julius | which is the best open source ftp server? | 08:35 |
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Burgundavia | julius: the one in main :) | 08:52 |
julius | proftpd? im having trouble setting up users, is it supposed to be reading my /etc/passwd file? | 09:21 |
julius | Im a bit confused about how PAM works. Ive looked here http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch7.html and i am editing /etc/pam.d/proftpd and i want to add omne user oxyrich. Do i add the user to the pam file as "oxyrich required pam_shells.so" and then add oxyrich to /etc/password ? | 09:26 |
Kamping_Kaiser | what can i use for dumping the trafic on a card? i need to find out if my rarp/dhcp services are getting hit by a sparc i'm trying to netboot :/ | 09:43 |
coNP | Kamping_Kaiser: if you have graphical interface wireshark can be very useful | 09:50 |
Kamping_Kaiser | coNP, thanks | 09:51 |
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r00tintheb0x | yay! shiny new vmware-ed ubuntu install complete w/vmware tools :D | 11:33 |
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m3thos | hi there, I want to install a system with software raid5 + LVM and raid10 + LVM for the system and user partitions.. does the ubuntu-server install cd alow to do this ? | 02:13 |
coNP | m3thos: I guess only the alternate CD supports RAID and / or LVM | 02:41 |
coNP | (during install I mean) | 02:41 |
m3thos | will do that | 02:42 |
m3thos | any difference between the regular ubuntu kernel and ubuntu-server kernel? | 02:42 |
shawarma | coNP: The server cd uses the alternate installer as well. | 03:02 |
shawarma | coNP: It has the exact same options. | 03:02 |
shawarma | coNP: The only difference between the two CD's is the selection of software available (on the cd) and the kernel that gets installed by default. | 03:03 |
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coNP | sorry they have been different | 03:04 |
coNP | I did not know they are the same now | 03:04 |
shawarma | I'm quite sure they've always been the same.. | 03:05 |
coNP | not really | 03:07 |
coNP | the server installer was not able to manage LVM / RAID partitions | 03:07 |
shawarma | When was this? | 03:22 |
coNP | dapper, edgy for sure | 03:22 |
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shawarma | I think you're wrong. I don't care enough to check, though. :) | 03:23 |
shawarma | It would seems silly (bordering on idiotic) to take d-i from the alternate cd, yank out raid+lvm and put it on the server cd. If anything it should be the other way around. | 03:25 |
coNP | I check it | 03:25 |
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zim | hi all | 04:50 |
leonel | ea | 04:50 |
zim | can i get ubuntu to run a script when i plug in a pen drive | 04:51 |
coNP | zim: I guess you can, however this should be discussed in #ubuntu | 04:51 |
zim | no this is a server Q | 04:51 |
coNP | sorry | 04:51 |
zim | I want the server to mount it symlink a folder to another folder run a backup of it | 04:53 |
zim | then when its removed remove the symlink and mount | 04:53 |
zim | any ideas any one Q ??? | 04:59 |
coNP | pmount does similar | 05:00 |
coNP | or some other package, I am not sure, which | 05:01 |
coNP | I mean mounts it | 05:01 |
coNP | and you can umount it as soon as the backup is done | 05:01 |
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Yahooadam | Hi, if im using winscp and try to change a file, i get a permission error (most likely cos im not root) but you cant sudo in WinSCP - how can you edit a file with winscp ? | 08:26 |
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m3thos | hi, what's the ubuntu way of configuring one ethernet device with _two_ ip addresses ? | 10:23 |
m3thos | (statically) | 10:23 |
foo | Hm, not too sure about a "ubuntu way" ... but I'd just edit /etc/network/interfaces | 10:25 |
m3thos | hehe.. | 10:28 |
Burgundavia | m3thos: are you familiar with setting a static ip via that file? | 10:30 |
m3thos | so so, long time ago I used debian, but moved to gentoo, which does things "its own way".. | 10:30 |
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m3thos | Burgundavia: I'll manage :D | 10:31 |
Burgundavia | ok, Ubuntu uses the same manner as debian | 10:31 |
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Burgundavia | try adding two "address" lines to your interfaces file | 10:33 |
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m3thos | okay | 10:33 |
m3thos | that was easy :D | 10:34 |
m3thos | ifdown ethX; ifup ethX ? | 10:34 |
AJBelayerTSS | hey can anyone help me get apt to upgrade to samba 3.0.25, it doesn't think there is an update out there but I can see it on the ftp site, btw i386 ubunut-server 6.06 | 10:34 |
m3thos | but I'm in a ssh session | 10:34 |
Yahooadam | could always make a script | 10:36 |
m3thos | /etc/network/interfaces:12: duplicate option | 10:36 |
m3thos | ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" | 10:36 |
Yahooadam | or do ifdown ethx | ifupethx | 10:36 |
m3thos | ifup fails | 10:36 |
Yahooadam | AJBelayer, it depends on your sources | 10:36 |
Yahooadam | sudo ifup ethx | 10:37 |
m3thos | that's why I didn't want to do a ifdown first! | 10:37 |
m3thos | i'm running has root | 10:37 |
AJBelayerTSS | which source do I need to get it, I thought I had all the ubuntu ones setup and running | 10:37 |
Yahooadam | i think you can do /etc/networking restart | 10:37 |
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Yahooadam | where is the ftp site ? | 10:37 |
Burgundavia | m3thos: running as root is a bad idea | 10:38 |
Burgundavia | m3thos: can you pastebin your interfaces file? | 10:38 |
AJBelayerTSS | my sourcelist points to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I see the package under http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/ | 10:39 |
Yahooadam | if you do a sudo apt-get upgrade ? | 10:40 |
AJBelayerTSS | no package to upgrade | 10:40 |
AJBelayerTSS | or the similar | 10:40 |
Yahooadam | sudo apt-get update first ? | 10:42 |
AJBelayerTSS | yup | 10:42 |
Yahooadam | what version are you running ? | 10:43 |
AJBelayerTSS | 3.0.22 for samba currently | 10:44 |
Yahooadam | maybe it has somthing to do with the number after ubuntu ? | 10:44 |
Yahooadam | libsmbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:44 |
Burgundavia | AJBelayerTSS: what version of Ubuntu are you running? | 10:44 |
Yahooadam | libsmbclient_3.0.25-1ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:44 |
Yahooadam | 6.06 | 10:44 |
AJBelayerTSS | 6.06 server | 10:44 |
Yahooadam | libsmbclient_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb | 10:45 |
Yahooadam | the 24 and 25 releases are ubuntu1 | 10:45 |
Yahooadam | and the 22 release is ubuntu4 | 10:45 |
AJBelayerTSS | hmm that could be, a full remove and then a reinstall should fix that right? | 10:45 |
Burgundavia | AJBelayerTSS: installing at version of samba might lead to bad things | 10:46 |
Burgundavia | s/at/that/ | 10:46 |
Burgundavia | ie: your version of Samba will no longer be supported | 10:46 |
Yahooadam | what does the number after ubuntu mean ? | 10:47 |
AJBelayerTSS | hmmm, but version 3.0.25 has 1 feature I really need on my server, I wonder how I can make it work | 10:47 |
Yahooadam | you may have to compile it yourself | 10:48 |
Yahooadam | but as said, it may not be supported | 10:48 |
Yahooadam | well it wont be | 10:48 |
AJBelayerTSS | that is what I am afraid of, jsut kinda makes it a pain, | 10:48 |
Burgundavia | no, you probably don't | 10:49 |
Burgundavia | if you are willing to update every six months, you might want to consider running 7.04 | 10:49 |
AJBelayerTSS | not really to be honest, production server so uptime is critcal, that is why I went with 6.06 over 6.10 this was before 7.04 | 10:50 |
Burgundavia | ahh | 10:51 |
AJBelayerTSS | if I can get all the deps met can I use dpkg to install it maybe? | 10:52 |
Yahooadam | maybe you can find a deb of .25 ? | 10:53 |
Yahooadam | http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/samba/3/ | 10:54 |
Yahooadam | found that link on the forums | 10:54 |
AJBelayerTSS | ahhh hey that looks promising | 10:54 |
Yahooadam | no guarantees on that :o | 10:55 |
AJBelayerTSS | hey I'll take what I can get at this point | 10:55 |
Yahooadam | if you have a less critical server to test it on | 10:55 |
AJBelayerTSS | o this is all on my test server first, that would be a nightmare if I did it to the acctual production one | 10:56 |
Yahooadam | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=482661&postcount=9 | 10:56 |
Yahooadam | that might work | 10:56 |
Yahooadam | sounds pretty painless | 10:57 |
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levander | I've got 000-default and default in sites-enabled. These are both links to sites-available/default. Is it normal to have that file linked to in sites-enabled twice?? | 11:01 |
Nafallo | not that I'm aware of. maybe you ran a2ensite manually? | 11:16 |
levander | i think it happened during my upgrade to feisty somehow | 11:20 |
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chila | hello I need some help with ftp server setup | 11:34 |
Yahooadam | ask away | 11:35 |
chila | spefically, configuring proftpd | 11:35 |
Yahooadam | somone will get to you (eventually) | 11:35 |
chila | well I cant seem to upload or download when connected to my ftp using my dns | 11:36 |
Yahooadam | locally ? | 11:36 |
chila | but I can connect/download/upload fine locally | 11:36 |
Yahooadam | umm on your internal network that is | 11:36 |
chila | yes | 11:36 |
Yahooadam | have you opened the ports on your rotuer ? | 11:36 |
chila | well using dns I cant ul/dl | 11:37 |
Yahooadam | router # | 11:37 |
chila | yes I did | 11:37 |
chila | ? | 11:37 |
Yahooadam | does http://www.canyouseeme.org/ say its open ? | 11:37 |
chila | it can see port 21 | 11:38 |
chila | i use port 21 | 11:38 |
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chila | (obviously) | 11:38 |
Yahooadam | if you get somone else to test it, using your IP does it work ? | 11:38 |
chila | they can't upload large files | 11:39 |
chila | more than 3mb | 11:39 |
chila | and sometimes not at all | 11:39 |
chila | ie just now I couldnt upload anything | 11:39 |
chila | when connecting using dns | 11:39 |
Yahooadam | but on the internal network its fine ? | 11:39 |
chila | when connecting to the internal ip it worked fine | 11:40 |
Yahooadam | you may get additional problems linking back through your own connection | 11:40 |
chila | I see | 11:40 |
chila | but I tested it with someone else and they had trouble uploading | 11:40 |
chila | it timed out on the, | 11:41 |
chila | them* | 11:41 |
Yahooadam | hmmm, but they also used DNS, or did they use the IP directly ? | 11:41 |
chila | dns | 11:42 |
chila | they can connect | 11:42 |
Yahooadam | can you try using IP directly | 11:42 |
chila | ok | 11:42 |
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CarlFK | what is a good URL to give someone that shows what u-s is? | 11:48 |
CarlFK | and why isn't it in the topic? | 11:48 |
Yahooadam | u-s = ubuntu server ? | 11:49 |
CarlFK | yes | 11:49 |
Yahooadam | probably cos this is a support channel for ubuntu server, therefore people here will already be using it, therefore they know what it is ;) | 11:50 |
Yahooadam | apart from that, ubuntu server is ubuntu without a gui and possibly with a few more server programs, and fewer common problems, like openoffice | 11:51 |
CarlFK | I know what it is - im trying to pass it on to someone else | 11:51 |
CarlFK | and it is less than what you just described :) | 11:52 |
Yahooadam | ie ? | 11:52 |
chila | yeah I just restarted my ftp and it works now for some reason. My guess is I can't use my dns internally | 11:52 |
CarlFK | it is a platform that has the 'minimum' packages installed so you can install just what you need | 11:52 |
chila | everything works fine | 11:52 |
chila | thanks Yahooadam | 11:52 |
Yahooadam | fair enough :) | 11:53 |
Yahooadam | glad it works chila | 11:53 |
CarlFK | u-s alone has no servers | 11:53 |
Yahooadam | i havent really explored it that much yet :p | 11:53 |
Yahooadam | i used it because a P2 with 190mb ram wont run very much :p | 11:53 |
CarlFK | bah - that is just enough to run desktop | 11:54 |
CarlFK | 128 starts to hurt | 11:54 |
CarlFK | 96 hurts alot | 11:54 |
Yahooadam | its a fileserver, plus i might put bittorent on with (and that means moblock) so in all it doesnt really need a gui | 11:54 |
Yahooadam | it would have been easier with one though :p | 11:54 |
Yahooadam | there seem ot be very few definitive instructions on partitioning/formatting hdd's :p | 11:55 |
CarlFK | just go with the defaults | 11:55 |
CarlFK | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition | 11:55 |
CarlFK | kinda fluffy.. but oh well | 11:56 |
Yahooadam | :p | 11:56 |
Yahooadam | actually US isnt basic | 11:56 |
Yahooadam | i couldnt install it without it being a DNS or LAMP server | 11:57 |
Yahooadam | or atleast i couldnt see an option to do it without that | 11:57 |
CarlFK | um, don't check the box | 11:57 |
Yahooadam | there wasnt a box to check | 11:57 |
Yahooadam | it just asked to choose one of them | 11:57 |
Yahooadam | as far as i recall | 11:58 |
CarlFK | may want to try again | 11:58 |
Yahooadam | maybe cos i used the alternative disk ? | 11:58 |
CarlFK | nope | 11:58 |
Yahooadam | or is there only the command line installer for US ? | 11:58 |
CarlFK | command line? | 11:58 |
Yahooadam | well not quite command line | 11:59 |
CarlFK | install gentoo. then you will know what a command line installer is :) | 12:00 |
Yahooadam | :) | 12:00 |
Yahooadam | my first linux OS was fedora core | 12:00 |
Yahooadam | and that didnt have a GUI either :p | 12:00 |
Yahooadam | so i was kinda thrust into the linux command line :p | 12:01 |
Yahooadam | bah i cant work out why this transfer is slow | 12:03 |
Yahooadam | USB hdd -> network -> switch -> switch -> File server | 12:03 |
Yahooadam | now which bit is slowing the connection down to 50mb/s | 12:03 |
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