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[04:01] <cruteme> anybody in here that can help me out with some networking issues?
[04:01] <cruteme> I'm ex-Gentoo and am having some trouble bending my mind around ubuntu networking
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> cruteme, ask your question, if someone can help and is here they wwill answer
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> you may ahve to wait a while
[04:03] <cruteme> ok... here's the story... I need to use CIDR style ip addresses and I can't seem to do that with the /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:04] <cruteme> i know how to do it with the ip command line tool
[04:04] <cruteme> but thats transient
[04:04] <cruteme> so I just need general guidance on setting up networking
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> what part isnt workin? you should be able to use netmask
[04:05] <cruteme> well I've been using CIDR style networking and would rather not go back to using netmasks if I can avoid it
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'd rather type ip/range then an ip line and a netmask line?
[04:06] <cruteme> yes
[04:07] <cruteme> is it even possible?
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> just checking, but it doestn seem to be
[04:07] <cruteme> yeah I did try it and it failed
[04:07] <cruteme> thats why I'm here ;-)
[04:08] <cruteme> next question then... is it possible to use iproute2 as the backend for the network scripts instead of ifconfig?
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> quick look at the man page indicates no cidr
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> that i have no idea
[04:09] <cruteme> I'm kind of accustomed to the flexibility of the gentoo setup... but its a hybrid linux/bsd
[04:09] <cruteme> the move to a straight up linux init/networking setup is slightly confusing for me 
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
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[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> in any real way at lest
[04:13] <cruteme> i really love the hybrid approach that gentoo adopts but it being a source based distro is difficult to maintain
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[08:35] <julius> which is the best open source ftp server?
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[08:52] <Burgundavia> julius: the one in main :)
[09:21] <julius> proftpd? im having trouble setting up users, is it supposed to be reading my /etc/passwd file?
[09:26] <julius> Im a bit confused about how PAM works. Ive looked here http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch7.html and i am editing /etc/pam.d/proftpd and i want to add omne user oxyrich. Do i add the user to the pam file as "oxyrich required pam_shells.so" and then add oxyrich to /etc/password ?
[09:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> what can i use for dumping the trafic on a card? i need to find out if my rarp/dhcp services are getting hit by a sparc i'm trying to netboot :/
[09:50] <coNP> Kamping_Kaiser: if you have graphical interface wireshark can be very useful
[09:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> coNP, thanks
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[11:33] <r00tintheb0x> yay! shiny new vmware-ed ubuntu install complete w/vmware tools :D
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[02:13] <m3thos> hi there, I want to install a system with software raid5 + LVM and raid10 + LVM for the system and user partitions.. does the ubuntu-server install cd alow to do this ?
[02:41] <coNP> m3thos: I guess only the alternate CD supports RAID and / or LVM
[02:41] <coNP> (during install I mean)
[02:42] <m3thos> will do that
[02:42] <m3thos> any difference between the regular ubuntu kernel and ubuntu-server kernel?
[03:02] <shawarma> coNP: The server cd uses the alternate installer as well.
[03:02] <shawarma> coNP: It has the exact same options.
[03:03] <shawarma> coNP: The only difference between the two CD's is the selection of software available (on the cd) and the kernel that gets installed by default.
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[03:04] <coNP> sorry they have been different 
[03:04] <coNP> I did not know they are the same now
[03:05] <shawarma> I'm quite sure they've always been the same..
[03:07] <coNP> not really
[03:07] <coNP> the server installer was not able to manage LVM / RAID partitions
[03:22] <shawarma> When was this?
[03:22] <coNP> dapper, edgy for sure
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[03:23] <shawarma> I think you're wrong. I don't care enough to check, though. :)
[03:25] <shawarma> It would seems silly (bordering on idiotic) to take d-i from the alternate cd, yank out raid+lvm and put it on the server cd. If anything it should be the other way around.
[03:25] <coNP> I check it
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[04:50] <zim> hi all
[04:50] <leonel> ea
[04:51] <zim> can i get ubuntu to run a script when i plug in a pen drive
[04:51] <coNP> zim: I guess you can, however this should be discussed in #ubuntu
[04:51] <zim> no this is a server Q
[04:51] <coNP> sorry 
[04:53] <zim> I want the server to mount it symlink a folder to another folder run a backup of it 
[04:53] <zim> then when its removed remove the symlink and mount
[04:59] <zim> any ideas any one Q ???
[05:00] <coNP> pmount does similar
[05:01] <coNP> or some other package, I am not sure, which
[05:01] <coNP> I mean mounts it
[05:01] <coNP> and you can umount it as soon as the backup is done
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[08:26] <Yahooadam> Hi, if im using winscp and try to change a file, i get a permission error (most likely cos im not root) but you cant sudo in WinSCP - how can you edit a file with winscp ?
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[10:23] <m3thos> hi, what's the ubuntu way of configuring one ethernet device with _two_ ip addresses ?
[10:23] <m3thos> (statically)
[10:25] <foo> Hm, not too sure about a "ubuntu way" ... but I'd just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:28] <m3thos> hehe..
[10:30] <Burgundavia> m3thos: are you familiar with setting a static ip via that file?
[10:30] <m3thos> so so, long time ago I used debian, but moved to gentoo, which does things "its own way"..
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[10:31] <m3thos> Burgundavia: I'll manage :D
[10:31] <Burgundavia> ok, Ubuntu uses the same manner as debian
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[10:33] <Burgundavia> try adding two "address" lines to your interfaces file
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[10:33] <m3thos> okay
[10:34] <m3thos> that was easy :D
[10:34] <m3thos> ifdown ethX; ifup ethX ?
[10:34] <AJBelayerTSS> hey can anyone help me get apt to upgrade to samba 3.0.25, it doesn't think there is an update out there but I can see it on the ftp site, btw i386 ubunut-server 6.06
[10:34] <m3thos> but I'm in a ssh session
[10:36] <Yahooadam> could always make a script
[10:36] <m3thos> /etc/network/interfaces:12: duplicate option
[10:36] <m3thos> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[10:36] <Yahooadam> or do ifdown ethx | ifupethx
[10:36] <m3thos> ifup fails
[10:36] <Yahooadam> AJBelayer, it depends on your sources
[10:37] <Yahooadam> sudo ifup ethx
[10:37] <m3thos> that's why I didn't want to do a ifdown first!
[10:37] <m3thos> i'm running has root
[10:37] <AJBelayerTSS> which source do I need to get it, I thought I had all the ubuntu ones setup and running
[10:37] <Yahooadam> i think you can do /etc/networking restart
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[10:37] <Yahooadam> where is the ftp site ?
[10:38] <Burgundavia> m3thos: running as root is a bad idea
[10:38] <Burgundavia> m3thos: can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[10:39] <AJBelayerTSS> my sourcelist points to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I see the package under http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/
[10:40] <Yahooadam> if you do a sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[10:40] <AJBelayerTSS> no package to upgrade
[10:40] <AJBelayerTSS> or the similar
[10:42] <Yahooadam> sudo apt-get update first ?
[10:42] <AJBelayerTSS> yup
[10:43] <Yahooadam> what version are you running ?
[10:44] <AJBelayerTSS> 3.0.22 for samba currently
[10:44] <Yahooadam> maybe it has somthing to do with the number after ubuntu ?
[10:44] <Yahooadam> libsmbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1_i386.deb 
[10:44] <Burgundavia> AJBelayerTSS: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:44] <Yahooadam> libsmbclient_3.0.25-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  
[10:44] <Yahooadam> 6.06
[10:44] <AJBelayerTSS> 6.06 server
[10:45] <Yahooadam> libsmbclient_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb  
[10:45] <Yahooadam> the 24 and 25 releases are ubuntu1
[10:45] <Yahooadam> and the 22 release is ubuntu4
[10:45] <AJBelayerTSS> hmm that could be, a full remove and then a reinstall should fix that right?
[10:46] <Burgundavia> AJBelayerTSS: installing at version of samba might lead to bad things
[10:46] <Burgundavia> s/at/that/
[10:46] <Burgundavia> ie: your version of Samba will no longer be supported
[10:47] <Yahooadam> what does the number after ubuntu mean ?
[10:47] <AJBelayerTSS> hmmm, but version 3.0.25 has 1 feature I really need on my server, I wonder how I can make it work
[10:48] <Yahooadam> you may have to compile it yourself
[10:48] <Yahooadam> but as said, it may not be supported
[10:48] <Yahooadam> well it wont be 
[10:48] <AJBelayerTSS> that is what I am afraid of, jsut kinda makes it a pain, 
[10:49] <Burgundavia> no, you probably don't
[10:49] <Burgundavia> if you are willing to update every six months, you might want to consider running 7.04
[10:50] <AJBelayerTSS> not really to be honest, production server so uptime is critcal, that is why I went with 6.06 over 6.10 this was before 7.04
[10:51] <Burgundavia> ahh
[10:52] <AJBelayerTSS> if I can get all the deps met can I use dpkg to install it maybe?
[10:53] <Yahooadam> maybe you can find a deb of .25 ?
[10:54] <Yahooadam> http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/samba/3/
[10:54] <Yahooadam> found that link on the forums
[10:54] <AJBelayerTSS> ahhh hey that looks promising
[10:55] <Yahooadam> no guarantees on that :o
[10:55] <AJBelayerTSS> hey I'll take what I can get at this point
[10:55] <Yahooadam> if you have a less critical server to test it on
[10:56] <AJBelayerTSS> o this is all on my test server first, that would be a nightmare if I did it to the acctual production one
[10:56] <Yahooadam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=482661&postcount=9
[10:56] <Yahooadam> that might work
[10:57] <Yahooadam> sounds pretty painless
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[11:01] <levander> I've got 000-default and default in sites-enabled.  These are both links to sites-available/default.  Is it normal to have that file linked to in sites-enabled twice??
[11:16] <Nafallo> not that I'm aware of. maybe you ran a2ensite manually?
[11:20] <levander> i think it happened during my upgrade to feisty somehow
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[11:34] <chila> hello I need some help with ftp server setup
[11:35] <Yahooadam> ask away
[11:35] <chila> spefically, configuring proftpd
[11:35] <Yahooadam> somone will get to you (eventually)
[11:36] <chila> well I cant seem to upload or download when connected to my ftp using my dns
[11:36] <Yahooadam> locally ?
[11:36] <chila> but I can connect/download/upload fine locally
[11:36] <Yahooadam> umm on your internal network that is
[11:36] <chila> yes
[11:36] <Yahooadam> have you opened the ports on your rotuer ?
[11:37] <chila> well using dns I cant ul/dl
[11:37] <Yahooadam> router #
[11:37] <chila> yes I did
[11:37] <chila> ?
[11:37] <Yahooadam> does http://www.canyouseeme.org/ say its open ?
[11:38] <chila> it can see port 21
[11:38] <chila> i use port 21
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[11:38] <chila> (obviously)
[11:38] <Yahooadam> if you get somone else to test it, using your IP does it work ?
[11:39] <chila> they can't upload large files
[11:39] <chila> more than 3mb
[11:39] <chila> and sometimes not at all
[11:39] <chila> ie just now I couldnt upload anything
[11:39] <chila> when connecting using dns
[11:39] <Yahooadam> but on the internal network its fine ?
[11:40] <chila> when connecting to the internal ip it worked fine
[11:40] <Yahooadam> you may get additional problems linking back through your own connection
[11:40] <chila> I see
[11:40] <chila> but I tested it with someone else and they had trouble uploading
[11:41] <chila> it timed out on the,
[11:41] <chila> them*
[11:41] <Yahooadam> hmmm, but they also used DNS, or did they use the IP directly ?
[11:42] <chila> dns
[11:42] <chila> they can connect
[11:42] <Yahooadam> can you try using IP directly
[11:42] <chila> ok
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[11:48] <CarlFK> what is a good URL to give someone that shows what u-s is?
[11:48] <CarlFK> and why isn't it in the topic?
[11:49] <Yahooadam> u-s = ubuntu server ?
[11:49] <CarlFK> yes
[11:50] <Yahooadam> probably cos this is a support channel for ubuntu server, therefore people here will already be using it, therefore they know what it is ;)
[11:51] <Yahooadam> apart from that, ubuntu server is ubuntu without a gui and possibly with a few more server programs, and fewer common problems, like openoffice
[11:51] <CarlFK> I know what it is - im trying to pass it on to someone else 
[11:52] <CarlFK> and it is less than what you just described :)
[11:52] <Yahooadam> ie ?
[11:52] <chila> yeah I just restarted my ftp and it works now for some reason. My guess is I can't use my dns internally
[11:52] <CarlFK> it is a platform that has the 'minimum' packages installed so you can install just what you need 
[11:52] <chila> everything works fine
[11:52] <chila> thanks Yahooadam
[11:53] <Yahooadam> fair enough :)
[11:53] <Yahooadam> glad it works chila
[11:53] <CarlFK> u-s alone has no servers 
[11:53] <Yahooadam> i havent really explored it that much yet :p
[11:53] <Yahooadam> i used it because a P2 with 190mb ram wont run very much :p
[11:54] <CarlFK> bah - that is just enough to run desktop
[11:54] <CarlFK> 128 starts to hurt
[11:54] <CarlFK> 96 hurts alot
[11:54] <Yahooadam> its a fileserver, plus i might put bittorent on with (and that means moblock) so in all it doesnt really need a gui
[11:54] <Yahooadam> it would have been easier with one though :p
[11:55] <Yahooadam> there seem ot be very few definitive instructions on partitioning/formatting hdd's :p
[11:55] <CarlFK> just go with the defaults 
[11:55] <CarlFK> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition 
[11:56] <CarlFK> kinda fluffy.. but oh well
[11:56] <Yahooadam> :p
[11:56] <Yahooadam> actually US isnt basic
[11:57] <Yahooadam> i couldnt install it without it being a DNS or LAMP server
[11:57] <Yahooadam> or atleast i couldnt see an option to do it without that
[11:57] <CarlFK> um, don't check the box
[11:57] <Yahooadam> there wasnt a box to check
[11:57] <Yahooadam> it just asked to choose one of them
[11:58] <Yahooadam> as far as i recall
[11:58] <CarlFK> may want to try again 
[11:58] <Yahooadam> maybe cos i used the alternative disk ?
[11:58] <CarlFK> nope
[11:58] <Yahooadam> or is there only the command line installer for US ?
[11:58] <CarlFK> command line?
[11:59] <Yahooadam> well not quite command line
[12:00] <CarlFK> install gentoo.  then you will know what a command line installer is :)
[12:00] <Yahooadam> :)
[12:00] <Yahooadam> my first linux OS was fedora core
[12:00] <Yahooadam> and that didnt have a GUI either :p
[12:01] <Yahooadam> so i was kinda thrust into the linux command line :p
[12:03] <Yahooadam> bah i cant work out why this transfer is slow
[12:03] <Yahooadam> USB hdd -> network -> switch -> switch -> File server
[12:03] <Yahooadam> now which bit is slowing the connection down to 50mb/s