=== Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 is now known as FlyingThing === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === MAGO [n=sonrix@189.171.128.225] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === Tailsfan [n=Tailsfan@206-252-160-20-user.feather.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:25] i want to install linux, and i'm downloading xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso is it okay if my computer is a 32bits? [01:25] Yes, hence of you downloading i386 [01:26] and the install is graphical? [01:26] Yes it is [01:27] oh ok, thanks i'll install it =) [01:27] Tailsfan thanks [01:28] Desktop = Graphical - Alternate = Text Install === MAGO [n=sonrix@189.171.128.225] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] Tailsfan i forgot to ask [01:30] Yeah? [01:30] what's the difference between desktop and alternate? [01:31] Desktop you can run the system and install at the same time [01:31] Alternate you can just install [01:31] I have Xubuntu myself and i did it via Alternate [01:32] oh ok, so with alternate you have to boot it with the cd of install but still is graphical? [01:32] and desktop, you run it from your running os? [01:33] or is it, if you install it "desktop" there is no need to burn it into a cd? [01:33] No [01:34] Desktop is teh graphical CD where you can Run the system from the Live CD and install it at the same time === cheeseboy [n=greg@71-87-213-83.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:34] ALternate is just a text install [01:34] how i zip a file to a rar in 100 mb parts? === FlyingThing is now known as Eagle_101 [01:35] !7-zip [01:35] Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression [01:35] should i install desktop? i'm newbie [01:35] rar not 7zip [01:36] !rar [01:36] rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free [01:36] They'll both work, but if you want to use Dkestop, Go Ahead [01:37] ok, i'll see what happens [01:37] thanks again === Tailsfan [n=Tailsfan@206-252-160-20-user.feather.net] has left #xubuntu [] === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42919.wlks.losch.net] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.44.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.44.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:15] would anyone know how well a broadcom 4401 wireless card will work? [02:22] wats command for archiving folder into 100mb 7z parts? [02:25] when you are deleting directories that are not empty...its rm -?? /directory ? [02:25] is it -Rf or -Fr? [02:26] rm 0f [02:26] -rf works [02:26] -f * === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] help ?? [02:31] rm -rf (directory name here) [02:32] wats command for archiving folder into 100mb 7z parts? === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:35] oh [02:35] no idea [02:35] hrm [02:36] :( === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.44.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-16-64-97.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.128] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] suggestions for multimedia program for slow machine? mp3, tracker (mod s3m ect), movie files [03:05] or programs [03:08] is there command line way to check for specific app or apps installed? === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:10] locate [03:10] which [03:10] or simply ls /usr/bin for whatever you're looking for [03:11] when you use apt-get install, it has a database or something, some way to search that data [03:11] trying to sort out dependancies === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@c-134-232-160.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.240] has joined #xubuntu [03:20] Chikubu, from command line? [03:21] or is synaptic ok? [03:24] http://pastebin.ca/569185 [03:24] whast wrong? === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:28] BFTD, there is no modual installed for the device? [03:28] (is this a test? [03:28] how do I figure out if there is a module installed? [03:29] do ls[type of card] [03:29] and tell me what your network card is [03:30] or bastbin the results [03:30] *pastebin === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:31] Bus 001 Device 006: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components [03:31] lsusb [03:31] lspci doesn't show [03:32] .... [03:32] belkin componants..... [03:32] =\ [03:32] what? [03:32] yeah [03:33] do you know which driver SHOULD be running? [03:33] its a F5D7050 ver 3002 usb wireless G adapter [03:33] I got it because I read that it can use the ralink drivers === darrend_ [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:38] there is a command (lsmod?) that will list all your running moduals.... === darrend_ is now known as darrend [03:39] darn...he left.... [03:39] ah....he'll be back === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.199] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] grr got bumped === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-116.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.82.32.9] has joined #xubuntu [03:51] am i correct in thinking that xubuntu should be more stable than ubuntu/kubuntu ? [03:51] Akuma_, at least as stable...why? [03:52] vidd: i just haven't had much luck with ubuntu feisty, i was hoping for something more stable [03:53] "stable" is a relative term..... [03:53] indeed [03:53] what did you have issues with [03:53] i want stable relative to what i've had so far [03:54] if you had driver issues...then it will most likely be very similar.... [03:54] gnome's shutdown/reboot buttons disapeared, so i have to switch tty and sudo poweroff, the systray doesn't always seem to load on boot .. they're not huge issues but they're not too fun [03:54] vidd: no driver issues [03:54] if you had issues with things crashing cuzz you lack memory (ram/hdd space) it should be better.... [03:55] vidd: my biggest problem is a nasty kernel oops bug, although it most likely has nothing to do with xubuntu vs ubuntu [03:55] vidd: i have plenty of memory too ... [03:55] if you had issues with app a, x and j...it may or may not be better/worse...depending on how you like the alternatives [03:56] what bug is that? [03:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/113793 [03:56] Launchpad bug 113793 in Ubuntu "error in terminal after upgrading to Feisty" [Undecided,Needs info] [03:57] hmm... thats a neet ubotu feature .. [03:57] *neat [03:59] Akuma_, if it was somthing wrong with gnome then xubuntu shouldnt have the problem because it has little gnome in it [04:00] if you want really stable try debain stable (sarge??) its very stable... but for me i dont lie it [04:00] like* [04:00] Jester45: i havent been extra happy with gnome so thats my main reason to want to try xubuntu [04:00] i have tried lots of DE and window manager and i tend to get draged back to xubuntu [04:01] i tried ubuntu kubuntu xbuntu debain (stable and unstable) gentoo redhat DSL knoppix sabayon morphix and maybe some others [04:02] i used kde gnome and xfce and i like xfce the best [04:02] Jester45: what would i loose coming from gnome? anything that matters? i don't mean gedit or nautilus, but something i just can't do with xfce? any feature comparison chart somewhere? i havent found any myself.. [04:02] Akuma_, you can install anything from gnome in xubuntu [04:03] Jester45: no compatibility issues at all though? === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [04:06] Akuma_, do you have that issue? [04:07] can you the get the live cd and run it (dont install)and see if you have the issue still? [04:08] vidd: i do, i'm the one who posted the syslogd messages [04:08] the developers are waiting for that test....it is important that SOMEONE gets them the answers so they can fix it [04:08] vidd: i don't have the liveCD right now unfortunatly [04:08] vidd: i think i can do that [04:09] Akuma_, you the original poster, or the second person? [04:09] although it doesnt exactly happen all the time so i'll have to just play around for a while with the liveCD, i'm not sure i'll have a few hours to do that [04:10] the second one; the original poster wasnt exactly helpfull [04:10] then open the terminsal...and let it run all night [04:10] =] [04:10] if it happens, it will fill up the terminal [04:12] yeah i thought about that but i'm not sure i trust my laptop enough for that. it gets pretty hot and all [04:15] i'm kinda confused about this though. i mean, obviously if it was present in the live cd as well it would have been a well known bug. so it means its either due to my hardware or something specific i do. [04:15] problem is i'm not sure i'll be able to do all the same things i do on the live cd [04:19] Akuma_, you can do all the same things on the live cd that you do on the regular install.... [04:20] you can even download from the repo's, download and install libdvdcss and watch a movie... [04:21] i had a friend that was able to run everything he needed for a whole month (no reboot) off the live cd [04:21] hmm. didnt know that [04:21] after the 30 day "test drive" he fired M$ [04:21] =] [04:21] heeh [04:22] i think he did eventuall do the install... [04:22] i'm pretty happy i fired ms too, though i must admit that XP was ultra stable [04:23] Akuma_, ???? [04:23] i had XP for 23 minutes before i got a BSOD [04:23] it was. 98 was crap, but xp itself wouldnt crash on me [04:23] really? i never got on on xp. on many different machines [04:23] *one [04:24] i know ppl that never got the chickenpox either.... but there are thousands of ppl that get it every year! [04:24] =] [04:25] hehehe [04:26] well i had several other issues with windows that were enough ... stability didn't help ms keep me on their camp =) [04:26] then again...i had another friend that desided he was going to change the screen resolution on my desktop.... [04:26] although i hope i can find a *nix combination that will be as stable [04:28] rather then simply use the tools to do it, he borked the daylights out of my xorg file and resarted the machine.... [04:28] i think i read they'll work on improving stability for gutsy? [04:28] oh i see, he wanted to use his l33t hax0r skills hein =/ [04:29] and he proclaimed that i got a "BSOD" when the GDM failed to load [04:29] hehe [04:29] lol [04:29] black screen of death? [04:29] the console? [04:29] :) [04:29] ohhh. *black* ! [04:29] hehe [04:30] i took one look at the sceen...mutters some unpleasentries and went to a tty, reconfigured the x server, and restarted it (1 minute, tops) [04:30] pwn, I guess. [04:30] R[a] ndom, no...that blue and grey screen you get when xserver fails to load corerectly [04:30] oh right [04:31] what happens when I let the auto updates happen :P [04:31] its borked my xorg conf 3 times now [04:31] i informed him that it was not a screen of death...cuzz i did not have to restart the machine [04:31] er well, borked the nvidia drivers actually [04:32] i told him the system was running fine [04:32] now how he got my sudo password...... [04:33] typed sudo after you had recently used it in a console? [04:33] truth serum? [04:33] is there a way to specifically kill gksudo? [04:33] never used gksudo, so dunno [04:34] R[a] ndom, im not sure HOW he got into it [04:34] vidd, look at htop and see if its listed [04:34] vidd, who is this "he" [04:34] one of the linux-bashers at work [04:34] o [04:34] buddy of yours? [04:35] or should i say THE linux basher [04:35] or just a co-worker [04:35] Jester45, not really....hehe === Jester45 wishes there was a linux basher in his whole city [04:36] im like the only one that knows about it [04:36] me and the guy who has to peel off all the ubuntu stickers from the computers at my school === vidd is trying to find that "psudo-virus" that makes the screensaver a box that pops up and starts showing a CDM box that lists all the files on the system, one by one and then shows DELETED [04:38] i got one that shows diffrent fatel errors from diffrent OSs [04:39] i put that on someone's computer like 8 years ago...and they like to have died...tripping over a chair to get to the computer...then finding out it was just a screen saver.... [04:40] Jester45, you have ubuntu stickers? [04:41] many [04:41] from where? [04:42] 20 or 30 of them [04:42] from ubuntu [04:42] or... shipit [04:42] i also have ~15 ubuntu cds [04:43] i get new ones for my friends to use === vidd would like to get some stickers like M$ slaps on pc's...."designed for linux...or ubuntu..." [04:43] or if im at there i can just use ubuntu + a script of mine and everything is like my destkop [04:43] or close [04:44] they have the logo then UBUNTU and under the UBUNTU is linux for human beings [04:44] 1x3 [04:45] nice little things [04:45] i got all the parts in my computer sporting them [04:45] even the disc tray [04:46] and my psu fan has one that is cut up and it looks pretty good === cheeseboy [n=greg@71-87-213-83.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:46] almost like the fan was made for ubuntu [04:46] whats network config file called?? === vidd would like to make computers for ppl with sticker that say "built with linux" and "this is where M$ would slap thier tracking device[the reg code] " [04:47] cheeseboy, i think that depends on what kind of interface it is ie wireless ethernet usb [04:47] the geneta one [04:47] general* [04:47] vidd, i would be your midwest branch :) [04:47] cheeseboy, gksudu network-admin [04:47] where i put dhcp [04:48] vidd, i want the file [04:48] not gui [04:48] /ect/network/interfaces [04:49] its empty :/ [04:50] one moment.... [04:51] kk [04:51] cheeseboy, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces [04:51] what i did [04:52] did you copy/paste? [04:52] nvm typo [04:52] or type by habd? [04:52] on laptop hard to copy and paste [04:53] really? [04:53] what i put for just dhcp device? === vidd never had issues.... [04:53] tuchbad mouse thing jumps around [04:53] cheeseboy, no idea... [04:53] do the gui way...it will edit this file for you [04:54] then you will see what it puts in === vidd sets all his computers with static IP's outside the dhcp range of his router [04:55] my dhcp range is 5 [04:55] =] [04:56] whats that [04:56] dhcp range? [04:56] yea [04:57] the ip addresses my router is allowed to give out via dhcp [04:57] is that the rage of 192.168.0.* [04:57] o [04:57] yes [04:57] mines like... a lot [04:57] most routers default to 50 [04:57] vidd, got any cool sites to add for links to my site [04:58] i a weird network [04:58] nothing age (or channel) appropreate [04:58] =] === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.128.118] has joined #xubuntu [04:59] like the computer im at now has 3 diffrent routers before it gets to the internet [04:59] or wait [04:59] 3 routers and a modem [04:59] no really im trying to make a list of links to websites but cant think of anything [04:59] somebody can help I installed ubuntu and I dont have xubuntu in my grub list [04:59] i got 4 but i would like 8 [05:00] jgamio, you dont have linux in your grub? [05:00] jgamio, did you install xubuntu or ubuntu [05:01] i use xubuntu but i install ubuntu today in another partition [05:01] but my xubuntu is not in my list [05:01] so you SHOULD have two linux listed in your grub [05:02] vidd: I should but not just ubuntu [05:02] humm [05:02] live or alt cd? [05:02] jgamio, did the ubuntu installer say anything about a diffrent OS being installed [05:03] I dont remember [05:03] vidd: live cd [05:03] Can I reinstall the grub ??? [05:03] or just modify my menu.lst [05:04] you can just modify your list [05:04] jgamio, since you used the live cd and not the alt cd...ubuntu MOST LIKELY treated this as an UPGRADE and not like a new install [05:04] just tell it where all the needed info is at [05:05] vidd, he installed to a diffrent partition [05:05] i used a separate partition to the boot maybe that was the thing [05:05] Jester45, that does not matter to grub [05:05] i have sda1 boot sda2 xubuntu sda3 ubuntu and sda4 home [05:05] grub gets written to the same place no matter WHERE you install to [05:06] vidd, yes, but ubuntu would not upgrade if you installed to a diffrent partition [05:06] it would only put data there and in grub [05:06] Jester45, have you done a dual boot linux install? [05:06] yes [05:07] ok...i have not.... [05:07] i did before [05:07] i dont know why doesnt work this time [05:07] i had a gentoo/xubuntu/win2k/debian machine [05:07] jgamio, you can just edit our menu.list [05:07] your* [05:08] but from what i understand of the process, when you are picking the partitions, if you reuse ANY of the partions besides swap, grub treats it as an upgrade and not a fresh install [05:08] that machine was a failure becuase i never got any of the installed customized like i want [05:08] Jester45: but where i get the root=UUID= [05:08] jgamio, you dont [05:08] vidd, no, i used the same /home partition [05:09] you use sudo [05:09] jgamio, i dont know anything about the menu.list === vidd will defer to Jester45's experience [05:09] Jester45: menu.lst is where the system are list to the selection [05:10] the so [05:10] i know what it is but not whats in it [05:10] like how to add a item === j1mc [n=jim@72-254-50-132.client.stsn.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:11] Jester45: is there ubuntu but is not xubuntu [05:11] yes, so you need to add a entry for xubuntu [05:11] thats the part i dont know how to do [05:12] Jester45: i think but is a root=UUID= number i dont know where to get [05:12] j1mc: hi jim [05:12] hi jgamio [05:13] jgamio, well... you know more that me about that then [05:13] jgamio, try this: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16701 [05:13] j1mc: jim i install ubuntu but i lost the xubuntu option you know how to add to my list [05:13] vidd: i am going to check [05:14] jgamio: i have to leave... otherwise i would try and help. [05:14] sorry [05:15] vidd: thank you this look fine i am ging to tested [05:15] j1mc: dont worry [05:16] :) thanks, jgamio. see you around! === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === kiosk [n=kiosk@ip72-196-242-121.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 is now known as screeech [05:17] help === screeech is now known as Eagle_101 [05:17] !ask |ki [05:17] ki: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [05:17] !ask | kiosk [05:17] kiosk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [05:17] does xubuntu have a sys file checker? [05:18] my time is counting ahead at a rate of 4x to 8x [05:18] yes...but ive never used it [05:18] I think I have a virus [05:19] if I shut off the power and restart the harware clock maintains the correct time [05:19] kiosk, you want to check the clockspeed of your processor [05:19] so the system seems to have separated from the hw clock [05:19] how [05:20] HW information? [05:20] it is most likely being misreported, so linux thinks more time has passed that has [05:20] vidd, he is talking about time kind of clock [05:20] I have a 366 MHz TP600 2645-5JU [05:20] Jester45, yes... i know.... [05:21] and if his system thinks he is running at 100mghz and hes running at 3oo mghz, then his clock will run 3x faster [05:22] So the time clock is part of the CPU? [05:22] I thought it was separate [05:22] powered by CMOS [05:22] kiosk, is the clock advancing like one hour in 15 minutes time, or is it keeping time, just the WRONG time? [05:23] so that it can keep time when the CPU is not powered [05:23] I jumps many seconds at once [05:23] about 2 secods at a time [05:23] 2 or 3 [05:23] every second [05:24] 6:03:30 [05:24] kiosk, you linux gets the time at boot from the cmos....then leaves cmos allone...unlike windows that is too stupid to track time itself [05:24] 6:06:00 [05:25] counts cpu cycles [05:25] my typmatic rate is all messed up too [05:25] kiosk, did you overclock your cpu on your board?" [05:25] wants to tyyyyype like crazy [05:25] but it fluctuates [05:25] no [05:25] don't think [05:26] everything that uses the system time standard goes supper fast [05:26] kiosk, this is a hardware issue.... [05:26] title on xmms scrolls like lightening [05:26] really [05:27] there was a way I could see my CPU speed [05:27] can't remember it === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.128.118] has left #xubuntu [] [05:35] I can't even double click [05:35] It thinks my clicks are too slow LOL [05:35] before i swap my CPU, how do i run the sys file check? [05:43] \ === kiosk [n=kiosk@ip72-196-242-121.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:49] I got booted [05:49] I think [05:50] thanks for help so far vidd === vidd is off to bed.... [05:51] anyone know how to check xubuntu system files? === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.214] has joined #xubuntu [05:53] is there a gui mixer that comes with xubuntu? [05:53] amixer i think [05:53] or might be alsamixer [05:55] amixer gives error no such device in term [05:55] whats that command to list sound devices? [05:56] lspci might be it [05:56] depending on where your device is connected [05:56] aplay -l hehe so glad the up arrow has a large buffer [05:56] not pci card, one isa card not working, other usb sound card [05:58] something just isnt right on system with sound ugg [06:01] which is the best irc client listed in the packages manager? [06:01] depends what you want [06:01] I use xchat [06:01] depends on what you like [06:01] you know it? [06:01] i used xchat gaim/pidgin irssi [06:02] irssi runs in a terminal [06:02] gaim/pidgin is a multi procall client (aim yahoo msn jabber irc icq etc) [06:03] xchat is just irc but has great scripting options [06:03] oh i forgot about gaim [06:03] im using xchat now, its ok i guess [06:04] are there scripts to modify function of xchat like there are for mirc? [06:04] yes [06:04] just like it [06:04] ok [06:05] I'm listening to "Girl On A Motorbike" by Swervedriver [06:05] such as my np script [06:05] lol you knew i was thinking mp3's [06:05] I have another with more info, but I went to change its colours and stopped halfway through [06:05] so its super ugly now. heh [06:05] Girl On A Motorbike by Swervedriver on Mezcal Head [Year: 1993] [Track: 8] [Length: 4:08] [Bitrate: 235] [Size: 6.95 MB] [06:05] R[a] ndom, is that working with mpd? [06:06] I'm using amarok [06:06] o [06:06] <3 amarok [06:06] can xchat connect to two servers or run two instances? [06:06] yes [06:06] two servers no prob [06:06] in one instance? [06:06] xchat menu at top [06:06] new [06:06] server window [06:07] you can connect to as many as you want from one instance [06:07] er server tab === Jester45 is connected to 3 [06:07] I'm on 3 too [06:07] oink, freenet and finalgear :P [06:07] :) [06:07] music, linux and cars [06:07] oink has its own server? [06:07]