[12:12] <Minataku> coreymon77: Watch, now it's not gonna crash on him
[12:12] <Minataku> XD
[12:13] <evsophomore2009> Coreymon: figures, it dosent crash when the Terminal is up
[12:14] <coreymon77> evsophomore2009: i have a feeling this isnt mozilla or firefoxes fault
[12:14] <evsophomore2009> when i close the terminal, it closes also..which makes sence, but when i open firefox without the terminal, it closes when i type in youtube.com
[12:14] <coreymon77> i have a feeling that something has to be wrong with your system, things dont jsut crash
[12:15] <evsophomore2009> anyway you can help
[12:15] <coreymon77> yup, thers a problem wiht your system, mine didnt crash
[12:15] <coreymon77> i dont knwo what the problem is
[12:15] <binvij> where can i get the source for kubunut
[12:15] <binvij> *kubuntu
[12:18] <zipper> it could be a firefox plugin / mplayer / vlc /whatever crashing firefox whenever he enters a page that contains videos?
[12:18] <evsophomore2009> Zipper: its not just vids
[12:21] <ron_> hi, I am a new user who has just installed his first version of kubuntu feisty.  I would like to get the Win32 codecs for watching the Win media (cough) that I have to watch from various places.  Where do I get those codecs for Kubunutu feisty, please?
[12:21] <sigbjorn> hi,trying to find som help! Just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and trying to install Linuxmce - however I do not have enough disc space on this drive (5GB). How can I easily uninstall all default and unneeded applications that gets installed with kubuntu to free up disc space for linuxmce?
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> !codecs | ron_
[12:22] <ubotu> ron_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: thats an awful small drive. how are you expecting to store any media on it?
[12:23] <sigbjorn> well, its actually 40gb - but inly 5gb is for ubuntu
[12:23] <sigbjorn> media is stored on another partition
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: ah... well you MIGHT want to repartition.
[12:23] <ron_> nosrednaekim: thanks!  I try not to use closed formats, but sometimes I have to see something in Win formats.  Thanks for your help!
[12:23] <sigbjorn> I thougth 5gb was enough for kubuntu + linuxmce, but guess I was wrong then. difficult to find how much space is needed for both of them
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> ron_: did that page have what you wanted?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: I would give it at least 10 GB.
[12:26] <sigbjorn> hm, will try to do that, but with 10gb winxp + 10gb kubuntu I only have 20gb for media :( . will try to increase the space with gparted though. I just wondered if there was some big applications that came with kubuntu that I could try to uninstall before I delete files
[12:27] <ICM> bye all, gotta install Kubuntu Server on my server
[12:27] <ICM> goodbye Gentoo!
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: there is of course all of KDE... if you want a lightweight one(use Xubuntu)
[12:27] <jriachi> (mmm... has anyone ever thought that ubuntu -as in "ubuntu-desktop"/"download ubuntu" should be called gubuntu? and reserve ubuntu for the whole project?)
[12:27] <ICM> Aswell as install KUbuntu on my desktop (after I install XP)
[12:27] <rathel> lol How do I make Backspace, Back In firefox, like it is in Windows?
[12:27] <ICM> dual boot = win
[12:27] <Ayabara> I used gnome-art in ubuntu for getting desktop backgrounds and stuff. Is there a similar app for kde?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: browse to "www.kde-look.com"
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> and yes, I believe there is a way to fetch wallpapers
[12:28] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: thanks.
[12:28] <sigbjorn> also - how do I find how much free space is available on the current drive?
[12:29] <jriachi> sigbjorn: in a konsole: df -h , i think that with a konqueror->right-click->properties you can also see it
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: df
[12:30] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: wrong link, it's .org, not .com :-)
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: sorry!
[12:31] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: no problem.
[12:32] <sigbjorn> jriachi: works in konqueror for the different media catalogues (cdrom/sda1-2-3-5) but not on the rootcatalogue itself, however found out that /dev/sda7/ (which I assume is the current partition) is 100% full
[12:32] <sigbjorn> by using df -h
[12:33] <jriachi> sigbjorn: i am more used to the console commands than to their gui couterparts
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: do a df and then look for the partition named "/"
[12:34] <sigbjorn> nosrednaekim: yes this was sda7 mounted as / - 100% full
[12:34] <sigbjorn> and its 4 GB
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: ouch.. that IS cutting it close.
[12:35] <sigbjorn> yup :P
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> its the last partition on your disc.... can you repartition and give it like 4 more? I'm sure that would be fine
[12:36] <sigbjorn> not sure if its the last one, but I have gparted on a usb and will try to start it and grab some more space
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: k
[12:36] <sigbjorn> not sure if I can do it within kubuntu
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: yes, you can..."fdisk". But gparted would probably be better
[12:37] <sigbjorn> oki, thanks - will try to boot gparted first and see if it is enough just to copy the files to a USB-disk and then try to boot from it
[12:39] <jriachi> i am running kubuntu, if i install ubuntu-destkop (i want to test gnome), will it change anything in my current setup (appart from new menu entries)?... i mean will default applications change, will gdm override kdm or anything?
[12:41] <Dragnslcr> Not sure, but Gnome might be set as your default window manager. I wouldn't think it would change anything else
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: you can select between KDM and gdm. no, it shouldn't change your K menu (besides adding new things)
[12:42] <jriachi> (i still think that they should call it gubuntu-desktop...:) )
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: lol
[12:44] <jriachi> nosrednaekim: when i read "how to do Foo in ubuntu"... sometimes aplies to kubuntu (e.g. doc about the sudo thing) and sometimes doesn't (e.g. doc about beryl)
[12:44] <jriachi> and that is confusing
[12:44] <amnesiac> good evening phreakers hihihih
[12:46] <amnesiac> marcelo is in a on off zone i think  lol
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: yeah, thats why I have both installed (so I have all the programs and such.
[12:47] <jriachi> yes... but still I think that a part shouldn't be called like the whole... specially in a case like this where confussion is so probable (and prone to cause trouble)
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: Ubuntu is all the rage.if you are running kubuntu, its almost as if you aren't using ubuntu at all almost a debian disto.
[12:52] <lolopop> hi
[12:53] <lolopop> LVM anyone?
[12:53] <jriachi> lolopop: no thanks, i only smoke tobacco
[12:54] <lolopop> jriachi: HA HA HA HA HA, sooo funny
[12:55] <jriachi> (sorry, i didn't wanted to type it... a green dwarf told me to)
[12:56] <jriachi> and btw, someday i have to start trying lvm... is it easy to setup?
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: sorry missed it.. what did you say?
[12:56] <sebastian_> how i can get ffmpeg package ?
[12:56] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, apt-get
[12:57] <sebastian_> i try whit sudo apt-get and no way
[12:57] <amnesiac> look for the gstreamer-ffmpeg under adept
[12:57] <aroo> How can I remove the mounted device icons from my desktop? Things like 2 USB devices and CDROM drive. I have "show device icons" unchecked in Desktop Behavior but the icons persist.
[12:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, it may be under libffmpeg
[12:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, or something similar
[12:58] <amnesiac> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer-all
[12:58] <sebastian_> i try to by libffmpeg and nothing
[12:58] <amnesiac> or something like that use the tab key in the konsole
[12:58] <amnesiac> you  will find it
[12:58] <lolopop> LVM easy to set up? Not if you are trying to put root in LVM which IS WHAT TF I want
[12:58] <jriachi> aroo: in general   unckeck the show icons, aply.. check show icons
[12:59] <sebastian_> amnesiac all the time say the system cant find the package
[12:59] <lolopop> ubuntu's lvm text based is the crappiest software around the world after m$$$
[12:59] <aroo> jriachi: I did and the icons just come right back even though they're still unchecked
[01:00] <jriachi> aroo: open a konsole ---> killall kdesktop ; kdesktop
[01:00] <amnesiac> are you still mounted jriachi ??
[01:00] <jriachi> amnesiac: uh?
[01:01] <aroo> jriachi: Just did and they came back :(
[01:02] <jriachi> aroo: it happened to me, but restarting the desktop solved it :S
[01:02] <aroo> Argh!
[01:02] <jriachi> (are you sure you have it unchecked? try unchecking every device type or something.... i dunno how to help :S)
[01:03] <aroo> Yea, I'm staring at it right now and it's not checked
[01:04] <aroo> It's alright I'll just play around
[01:06] <jriachi> (please, anyone give me a reason to stop playing with kubuntu and start studing Comm. Electronics, please...)
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: don't!
[01:08] <jriachi> btw, in English.. an amplificator is a "tetrapole/cuadripole/quadpole/...?"
[01:21] <raymond> my optical drives no longer auto mount when medium is put in
[01:22] <hgarcia> does anyone have kubuntu on a laptop with a ATI video card?
[01:23] <SlimeyPete> yes
[01:23] <SlimeyPete> ATI 200M
[01:23] <hgarcia> thats what I have too
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> hgarcia: yep integrated though.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> I have a Xpress1100
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> which is the same as a 200M
[01:23] <raymond> !mount
[01:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:24] <raymond> !DiskMounter
[01:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:24] <hgarcia> have you upgraded your video drivers?
[01:24] <raymond> !fstab
[01:24] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:24] <raymond> urg
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> hgarcia: I installed the fglrx ones, yeah.
[01:24] <hgarcia> I did that too
[01:25] <hgarcia> have you gone to ati and downloaded and installed the newer driver?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> no
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> I haven't had any reason to do so
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> I have the default fglrx ones, everything working fine
[01:26] <raymond> !automount
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <hgarcia> in the systems setting there is a option for standard or proprietry. Which one do you have selected?
[01:28] <icatalina> hi
[01:28] <icatalina> i need to set a file as hide on a windows (fat32) partition from ubuntu, any idea?
[01:29] <revvltn> hi
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> hgarcia: prorpietary (if that is the resctited-manager)
[01:29] <revvltn> would it work to transplant the directories into a LVM partitions then boot off them
[01:29] <revvltn> ?
[01:29] <revvltn> of course editing fstab accordingly
[01:30] <revvltn> will Kubuntu go haywire? Or would it boot fine as if nothing ever happened?
[01:30] <hgarcia> ok, t hanks
[01:33] <gio> I'm trying to use this program..I'm sorry if I make some mistakes!
[01:34] <gio> Right..Hello to all the community!
[01:34] <amnesiac> hai gio
[01:34] <gio> Hi amnesiac!
[01:36] <gio> So I have understood correctly, this program allow me to log in into a common chat, with several argument..
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> yes
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> lots of channels are available
[01:36] <gio> Great! By default, I've found this kubuntu channel..
[01:37] <sebastian_> help i cant use the gedit i try to donwload the packages but i cant i have the ubuntu 5.1 i dont know whats is wrong
[01:38] <gio> Sebastian,which is the error message?
[01:40] <joaoluiz> Aloo
[01:40] <joaoluiz> Hi
[01:41] <gio> Hi!
[01:41] <joaoluiz> can i help me?
[01:41] <DudeMeister> anybody know how to get beryl to start by default?
[01:41] <joaoluiz> I'm Brazilian.. and you?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> DudeMeister: you're not using XGl are you?
[01:42] <gio> You have to install it, and than, if I rember well, It's sufficient to go into the beryl menu and press start
[01:42] <sebastian_> gio say the sytem cant find the package , for fix it's up-loadig the system i use apt-get aptitude upload and cant read the packages so cant download and i cant change the sources list becouse dont work the gedit
[01:44] <DudeMeister> no i'm using aiglx
[01:44] <DudeMeister> nvm i figured it out
[01:45] <gio> have you tried kate or nano?
[01:45] <ejortegau> hi guys. small question: any work arounds to get gmail working with konqueror? currently using kde 3.5.6 on kubuntu 7.04
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> DudeMeister- symlink beryl-manager to ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:45] <joaoluiz> anybody help me ?
[01:46] <joaoluiz> i'm brazilian
[01:46] <gio> @ejortegau: I can't understand the problem..you want to see gmail by konqueror?
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> joaoluiz- sorry, we can't help with that
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: lol
[01:46] <joaoluiz> thanks
[01:46] <gio> joauluiz
[01:46] <ejortegau> gio: yes, withouth having to resort to basic html view
[01:46] <joaoluiz> fuck you!
[01:46] <gio> wich is the problem?
[01:47] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, it was way too easy
[01:47] <joaoluiz> sorry
[01:47] <ejortegau> gio: well, it shows the loading  thing, then page goes blank, nothing else happens... does it work for you?
[01:47] <joaoluiz> hi gio
[01:47] <joaoluiz> sorry my english
[01:47] <gio> @ejorte: now I try
[01:47] <BluesKaj> !br | joaoluiz
[01:48] <ubotu> joaoluiz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:48] <joaoluiz> obrigado
[01:48] <joaoluiz> i'm sorry! again
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: gmail seems to be working for me..
[01:50] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: that's strange... it doesn't work here... what kubuntu/kde version are you running? and what are your settings for user agent in konq?
[01:50] <gio> @ejorte: My konqueror doesn't connect totally!:(
[01:50] <ejortegau> gio: lol, you have more problems than i do...
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: OTOH, it just did something wierd.
[01:51] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: what?
[01:51] <gio> In fact I work with firefox!
[01:51] <gio> Now I try again..this is a fu*king starnge thing!
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> all of a sudden it started reloading, and then right when it was finished, it started reloading again
[01:52] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: i'll try again on mine
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: yeah, its not working here
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> which is really sad
[01:53] <ejortegau> yeah... i really like konq over ff... sad thing is gmail doesn't work
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... well you can always set gmail up with POP forwarding.
[01:54] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: yeah, i guess...
[01:54] <gio> If you use thunderburd or a generic client it's quite simple
[01:54] <ejortegau> i had it with kmail an my old computer
[01:55] <gio> but my konqueror doesn't work!
[01:55] <ejortegau> well, thanks anyway, guys
[01:55] <ejortegau> g2g
[01:55] <ejortegau> cya
[01:55] <gio> Kmail, right, it's good working
[01:59] <rathel> I'm having a problem, I have a windows computer with RDP enabled, I go into KRDC and do: rdp:/(ip address) and then I get an error message saying:  Could not start rdesktop: make sure rdesktop is properly installed. What am I doing wrong?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> rathel: is rdesktop installed?
[02:01] <rathel> nosrednaekim: hmm.. lemme double-check.
[02:02] <rathel> nosrednaekim: lol It is now. XD
[02:02] <rathel> I feel so stupid now. lol
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> rathel: hehe... thats why you ALWAYS follow the error messages
[02:05] <soulrider> !iso
[02:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:15] <klobster> do I _need_ the kopt= line in my ./grub/menu.lst?
[02:18] <stdin> klobster: it's used when grub automatically updates it's list. ie: when you install a new kernel
[02:21] <klobster> so it shouldn't affect my regular boot routines?
[02:24] <klobster> stdin: because my system appears to be hanging during boot
[02:25] <stdin> klobster: no, it has nothing to do with booting
[02:27] <klobster> stdin: do you know of any kernel options I can add to the kernel line of my grub to make it more verbose?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Warning ! if you update your kernel , grub may be overwritten and not boot properly ...it happened to me yeaterday
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yesterday
[02:28] <stdin> klobster: take off the "splash" option, and (to be even more verbose) remove "quiet"
[02:28] <stdin> BluesKaj: how can the kernel overwrite grub?
[02:28] <klobster> BluesKaj: neither 2.6.20.15 or 2.6.20.16 will boot
[02:28] <BluesKaj> stdin, good question ..dunno how it happened
[02:28] <klobster> stdin: is there a way to make it more verbose than that?
[02:29] <klobster> it's something to do with /dev(h|s)da
[02:29] <stdin> klobster: maybe add "verbose" to the commands
[02:30] <stdin> klobster: sounds like it's running fsck
[02:30] <klobster> wouldn't it tell me that?
[02:31] <klobster> also if I leave it (for over an hour at one point) it's still hung
[02:31] <stdin> well, it would say fsck was running
[02:31] <BluesKaj> BTW I used synaptic to upgrade , that could have been my mistake , dunno why
[02:31] <klobster> Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom    is the last msg I see
[02:33] <metbsd> kubuntu is loading forever
[02:35] <level1> hello, if I have a seperate /home partition, is 6GB enough for my OS, so that my computer still runs very fast?
[02:35] <klobster> do you know what the datestamp is of files installed off the fiesty ISO?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> level1: 6 gigs..... i'd give it at least 8 to be safe
[02:36] <jriachi> level1, having separate partitions isn't related to computer speed (i think) :S
[02:36] <metbsd> i boot with kubuntu desktop iso, but it's loading forever
[02:36] <level1> jriachi: what I mean is, is 6GB enough to keep it running smoothly
[02:37] <level1> nosrednaekim: Is it worth repartitioning now that I've already reinstalled?
[02:37] <jriachi> i have installed kde+gnome and i occupies 2.1 G
[02:37] <level1> nosrednaekim: I'm not in a bind for space, I can allocated 10GB or 14GB if you think it will do any good
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> level1: oh you installed to 6gigs?
[02:37] <level1> yeah
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> what does a "df" give you for free space on your / partition?
[02:38] <level1> just today, I can still repartition, no problem
[02:38] <level1> > /dev/sda1             5.8G  2.2G  3.4G  40% /
[02:38] <level1> 3.4 is avail
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> level1: you should be fine
[02:39] <level1> okay, if it starts getting slow or troublesome I can always fix it, its just now is the easiest time to do that before I start putting stuff on here
[02:41] <level1> hmmm... amarok seems to have forgetten things like which mp3's I listened to the most... can I get that data back?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> level1: its not a problem with speed; its a problem with installing more programs
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> level1: did you save your previous home directory?
[02:44] <level1> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:44] <level1> nosrednaekim: I'm having trouble with mp3 support... is that in medibuntu or somewhere else?
[02:44] <Frederick> folks I installed a theme with the theme nanager and it broke my whole video
[02:44] <coreymon77> level1: was i talking to you earlier today?
[02:44] <Frederick> can I change it to a previous state?
[02:45] <level1> coreymon77: I don't remember you, but I used to be premier
[02:45] <coreymon77> level1: oh, then no
[02:47] <level1> !mp3
[02:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <ChaosMachine> Er, could anyone help me with some issues on installing openchrome driver?
[02:49] <imanewbie> folkI need help a kde theme broke my whole xserver
[02:49] <imanewbie> I got the screen with double images and fliker
[02:49] <imanewbie> can I somehow come back to a previous state?
[02:50] <ChaosMachine> It says my IRQs are bad. And I need to unset LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH. ;x
[02:51] <ChaosMachine> Or does anyone know how I can uninstall the driver so I can give it another try? D:
[02:52] <ygetartson> hey, why cant i download the kubuntu i386 dvd image?
[02:52] <level1> ygetartson: whats the problem
[02:52] <ygetartson> no matter what i try, the last 300 mb he doesnt get
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: thats weird... are you using kget?
[02:53] <level1> try installing that and see if it works
[02:53] <ygetartson> in linux, i get a message: file size limit exceeded, core dumped
[02:53] <ygetartson> with wgit
[02:53] <ygetartson> wget
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: oh... how much diskspace do you have?
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: and what kind of filesystem is it?
[02:53] <ygetartson> i have 8gb left before dl start
[02:53] <ygetartson> ext3
[02:54] <ygetartson> i even tried on windows now, same problem
[02:54] <ygetartson> at the same amount of bits dled, dl stalls
[02:54] <ChaosMachine> wow this sucks...x.x
[02:54] <level1> ygetartson: some of the space is reserved for some reason, idk why... maybe you need to free up some space, is that possibel
[02:55] <ygetartson> what is that? its crazy...
[02:55] <ygetartson> hm
[02:55] <level1> ChaosMachine: I don't know about your problem, its a serious one... maybe try #ubuntu?
[02:56] <ygetartson> more than 4gb for security or so, dunno
[02:56] <ygetartson> but that is my last resort. ill do that tomorrow.
[02:56] <Frederick> folks a kde theme screwed my whole xserver can I have some help?
[02:57] <ygetartson> now im gonna have a good wank and go to bed. gnight folks!
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> Frederick- enable a different theme then? I'd be surprised if a theme could break X
[02:57] <level1> wank... langauge
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> If so, I'd say that's a problem with X
[02:58] <ChaosMachine> okay, I'll try it. ;o
[02:58] <Frederick> Dragnslcr: that is why im here
[02:58] <Frederick> it really broke
[02:58] <Frederick> I tried even xfce
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> Switching to a different theme and restarting X doesn't fix it?
[02:58] <Frederick> and I still with a messed screen how do I ask to apt-get to reconfigure my xserver
[02:58] <level1> Dragnslcr: how can Frederick change his theme if he can't get to the gui?  Even I don't know how to do that from the command line
[02:58] <Frederick> Dragnslcr: no
[02:59] <Frederick> level1: I got to a "gui" completed twisted but it works
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> Frederick- wow, I think you just went way over my head then.
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> I can't imagine how a theme could permanently break X
[02:59] <Schuenemann> !kasbar
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> Unless something else in xorg.conf got changed
[03:00] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I get rid of this bar called kasbar?
[03:00] <Frederick> I want to re-run the scripts to auto reconfigure xorg.conf
[03:00] <Frederick> wich is the command?
[03:00] <feni> omg ... fuck gaim/pidgin ... i don't get it ... there popups the whole time this stupid notification ...
[03:01] <Schuenemann> feni, that notification sucks and can't be disabled
[03:01] <feni> i added a buddy an now ... i don't know how to describe in engl. :P ... are there some German dudes?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: right click on panel->remove panel-kasbar
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> What notification?
[03:01] <Frederick> if I could google I would but I can barely use irssi on kacontrol
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> !german | Schuenemann
[03:01] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:01] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, oh... thanks
[03:01] <Frederick> feni: Ich kann ein bissien Deutch
[03:01] <Frederick> so folk pleose say me this command line for sakes
[03:02] <Frederick> it is something like apt-get install xorg --configure
[03:02] <Frederick> sooooooooooooo?
[03:03] <BluesKaj> Frederick, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:03] <feni> well ... i am 2 tired 4 translating ... or writing :P ... thx ... baibai
[03:03] <feni> Ahh frederick ... what didd happen to your xserver?
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> I don't have any annoying notifications in Gaim, so I have no idea what you're talking about
[03:03] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, I added a notification (popup+sound) for a friend when he logs in, now I can't remove it
[03:03] <feni> ... or your xorg
[03:04] <heroin>  /exit
[03:04] <feni> du u mean ... the psychoplugin?
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- you mean just for that specific contact?
[03:04] <Frederick> feni: I installed a theme and it broken my whole x
[03:04] <Schuenemann> exacly
[03:04] <Schuenemann> I only added for a perso
[03:05] <Frederick> resolution is goofed all is fucking goofed
[03:05] <feni> ... i know that ... but thats only in kde ... gaim+kde [03:05] <feni> problems
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- sounds like a Buddy Pounce
[03:05] <Schuenemann> what is a pounce?
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> An action that occurs in response to a specific event
[03:06] <feni> Frederick: go console ---> and type: sax2
[03:06] <Schuenemann> yes, when he logs in
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> e.g. sending a message when a contact comes online
[03:06] <feni> or switch to /etc/X11
[03:07] <Schuenemann> exacly, when he comes online
[03:07] <feni> an take a look in your xorg.conf
[03:08] <Schuenemann> how do I get rid of that?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> I'm checking my settings to see if I can find it, Schuenemann
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> You can try right-clicking on the contact and going to Add Buddy Pounce
[03:08] <Frederick> feni: and?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Oh, duh
[03:08] <feni> then reset your xserver
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- check Tools -> Buddy Pounces
[03:08] <feni> aka restart
[03:08] <Schuenemann> let me see
[03:08] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, many pounces to that guy... I'll remove
[03:08] <Frederick> did it many times
[03:09] <feni> you opened sax2 many times?
[03:09] <Frederick> I re run  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:09] <Frederick> I got no sax2
[03:09] <feni> mhhh
[03:09] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, gaim UI seems horrible
[03:09] <feni> perhaps you have 2 be root?
[03:09] <Schuenemann> I clicked many times: stop monitoring presence or something
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- what version are you using?
[03:10] <feni> GAIM AND KDE IS HORRIBLE!
[03:10] <Frederick> command not found
[03:10] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, 1.5.0
[03:10] <Schuenemann> feni, nah, KDE rocks :)
[03:10] <lordblaa> hey guys - just trying to install ubuntu - ubiquity keeps hanging when i get to partition editor.. anything i can do?!
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- that's why, then. 2.0 is a huge improvement
[03:10] <Frederick> fuck ubuntu broken my system I damm need to use it I got a TON of works to do
[03:10] <lordblaa> oh jeez, just as i said that it started working
[03:10] <lordblaa> of course
[03:10] <lordblaa> bbl :D
[03:10] <ubuntu> my kde enviroment working well hehehe
[03:10] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, is it new? there isn't much time since I installed this one
[03:11] <Frederick> I will re start and pry brb
[03:11] <Frederick> but first
[03:11] <Frederick> oki my problem started when I tried to install a theme with the theme installer oki?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- I have 2.0beta6 from the repository
[03:11] <Schuenemann> apt-get latest version is 1.2.0 heh
[03:11] <Schuenemann> still beta?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Not sure when Gaim will be replaces with Pidgin in the repository
[03:11] <feni> the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .... it should work also
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:12] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, edgy
[03:12] <Frederick> feni: tried
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Ah, that may be why
[03:12] <feni> well well ... finally i would edit my xorg.config on my own ... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Dunno if they'll bother putting 2.0 into Edgy's repository
[03:13] <feni> take a look in it
[03:13] <erichj> gaim will be replaced with pidgin with gutsy
[03:13] <Frederick> feni: it is open
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I'll switch to feisty someday
[03:13] <feni> paste the important lines
[03:14] <Frederick> I got an ati radeon mobility as video card
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I'm still hoping Kopete will catch up a bit more with Pidgin in the near future. Couple little things that kinda annoyed me the last time I tried it
[03:14] <Frederick> should I reboot now?
[03:14] <feni> what did u change?
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: nothing
[03:15] <feni> :P
[03:15] <MECU> I'm running ./configure and I get an error "syntax error near unexpected token 'MJPEG,'
[03:15] <sebastian_> everybody is fron usa in here?
[03:15] <Frederick> I dunno what to change and I cant google
[03:15] <feni> man ...
[03:15] <Schuenemann> kopete is annoying
[03:15] <feni> try it
[03:15] <feni> kopete sucks
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: it seems normal
[03:15] <feni> write it 2 me
[03:15] <Frederick> how the hell I will edit something I dunno
[03:15] <feni> send me your conf
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I think Kopete will make a lot of improvements in the next year or so
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: I will flood you in pvt oki?
[03:16] <feni> kk
[03:16] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: i do like that kopete has video conferencing built in
[03:16] <Schuenemann> Graphic card question: what would perform better, a geforce 32 MB nvidia or a geforce 64 MB non-nvidia?
[03:16] <n8k99> instead of having to use a separate app like when using pidgin
[03:17] <voidmage> wow.
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- yeah, I noticed on my parents' computer that their webcam automagically worked in Kopete
[03:17] <voidmage> in konqueror web browsing
[03:17] <voidmage> if i want to upload files
[03:17] <voidmage> i can STILL use KIO
[03:17] <voidmage> talk about well done.
[03:18] <voidmage> too bad konqueror isn't a great browser.
[03:18] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: it still doesnt do aol webcam but there is hopw
[03:18] <n8k99> s/hope/hopw
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I think the only annoyances I had were the interface for handling metacontacts and needing something like 4 clicks to set an away status and message
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I figure those are probably fairly high on the list of UI improvements though
[03:20] <dangbert> I have an install question,
[03:20] <n8k99> rightclick on the systray icon- set away status in the service menu
[03:21] <sebastian_> i cant see mpeg videos somebody can help me?
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Does that also set the away message?
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- think you need the libxine-ffmpeg package
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> !mpeg
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: oh yes- systray icon:: RMB(clock) >Status> Away(click)
[03:22] <n8k99> erm click for clock
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[03:22] <sebastian_> Dragnslcr yes i try the all for donwload the package but nothing works i dont know whats wrong
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- open up Adept, see if libxine-ffmpeg is installed
[03:23] <sebastian_> no is not installed
[03:23] <sebastian_> i dont have the package
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- maybe I'll spend a little time tomorrow messing around with Kopete again
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- I think that's the one that has the mpeg decoder for stuff like Kaffeine
[03:24] <dangbert> Here is the problem, I have a Gateway GT5220 that came with XP installed on a 250gig hd.  I tried to load Kubuntu and got an error message saying "APIC" was not tied to the timer.  I booted with the "noapic" option and it started to load.  Then it errored out with the following messages:
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- have you noticed a bug with the history where it only actually logs messages if you have the "show previous messages in new chat window" option turned on?
[03:24] <dangbert> 1) FS: cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block
[03:24] <dangbert> 2) Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[03:25] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: no i haven't- but i don't grep through my kopete logs often
[03:25] <ubuntu__> hello
[03:25] <dangbert> 3) Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS" unable to mount root FS on unknown-block (8,1)
[03:25] <ubuntu__> can u tell me pls if i can install mp3 support running live cd??
[03:25] <ubuntu__> pls
[03:25] <ubuntu__> help me
[03:26] <sebastian_> i try to get by sudo but say cant find tha package then i try to upload  the souces.list but the gedit dont work
[03:26] <ChaosMachine> level1: Interesting thing about my video card problem, it was because I didnt have onboard set on primary in the bios.
[03:26] <ubuntu__> pls somebody
[03:26] <level1> ubuntu__: it should be the same as without the liveCD
[03:26] <ubuntu__> why cant i play an mp3 file running live cd
[03:26] <level1> ubuntu__: its a long story
[03:27] <level1> !mp3 | ubuntu__
[03:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <ubuntu__> tell me if i install kubuntu will i have also the decoders
[03:28] <ubuntu__> or i have to search it on synaptic
[03:28] <ubuntu__> pls somebody give me an answer
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__: there is no OS in existence that comes with every codec by default
[03:29] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  you need the codecs for the not free formats
[03:29] <sebastian_> like mp3
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__: its a legal issue nothing to do with the OS itself
[03:30] <ubuntu__> yeah but searching for them in synaptic gives no results
[03:30] <ubuntu__> what shall i do?
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__:  just install  the xine-extracodecs package an win32codecs
[03:31] <sebastian_> now my problen is i cant get the ffmpeg i try with sudo apt-get but say cant find
[03:31] <ubuntu__> and for video codecs also?
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__:  that will give you everything
[03:31] <ubuntu__> oki
[03:31] <ubuntu__> thks
[03:32] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  sudo apt-get aptitude install ffmpeg
[03:33] <sebastian_> thats whats say the web page
[03:33] <ubuntu__> E: Invalid operation aptitude
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> xine-extracodecs is a meta package that triggers allot of other packages to be installed
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !multimedia
[03:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:34] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <rathel> hmm... I downloaded a source for a VLC Plugin, How would one go about compiling it? The directions that came with it are for Windows.
[03:35] <sebastian_> the toten come with the codecs ready?
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> rathel: ?? why would you download the source when the latest version is already on the repo ?
[03:35] <ubuntu__> i think not
[03:36] <rathel> Linux_Galore: It's a plugin, I don't think they have the plugin on the repo.
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> rathel: vlc is a media player not a plugin
[03:36] <rathel> Linux_Galore: Well... duh.
[03:37] <BluesKaj> there are some plugins in the repos
[03:37] <rathel> BluesKaj: Any for .Part file access?
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> rathel: if you setup your sources you should have no need to build any plugins either
[03:37] <BluesKaj> vlc has a  browser plugin
[03:38] <ubuntu__> Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:38] <rathel> hmm..... I know.
[03:38] <ubuntu__> this is what it gives me
[03:38] <rathel> I was just going to try and build the eMule Part file access, but nevermind.
[03:38] <ubuntu__> why?
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> the only thing I have really seen need to build from source is ffmpeg to be honest because it has allot of things disabled
[03:39] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  whats version you have?
[03:39] <ubuntu__> kubuntu 6.10
[03:40] <ubuntu__> it aint workin
[03:40] <ubuntu__> im going ti bed.....maybe tomorrow i will handell it
[03:40] <ubuntu__> c ya guys
[03:41] <sebastian_> ok you have to see the souce.list ubuntu_ see tomorrow
[03:43] <sebastian_> this version 5.1 dont work so good with the packages i have to install the 7.0.4
[03:46] <ChaosMachine> Okay, I have anoyher question now that my graphics card *seems* properly installed, why is glxgears running at 40 fps, and why is WoW not running at all anymore?
[03:48] <ChaosMachine> Ah, nevermind. I'm still getting 494 fps on gears with a few programs running. Its just that WoW wont start. =p
[03:50] <bustamante> hi
[03:50] <bustamante> someone uses the software kexi?
[04:05] <Schuenemann> !windozw
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windozw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <Schuenemann> !windoze
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windoze - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <joe4288> hi im having trouble i just installed kubuntu
[04:09] <joe4288> i was using debian before
[04:09] <joe4288> now im trying to get to the installer program but it wont let me su
[04:09] <joe4288> i get the error message converstaion with su failed
[04:10] <joe4288> its a new error message to me
[04:10] <joe4288> and yes i setup a root account with a password
[04:10] <Schuenemann> !root | joe4288
[04:10] <ubotu> joe4288: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:10] <joe4288> there is a password because i set 1
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, is this the live-cd?
[04:11] <joe4288> no?
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, hmm, sudo -i does the same thing, you may try that
[04:12] <soulrider> why you guys trying to get intot he root account? :P
[04:12] <joe4288> i can sudo and su in the command termianl no prob
[04:12] <level1> I installed the medibuntu packages and the mp3 packages referred to by ubotu (!mp3) but I still can't get amarok to play mp3s...
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, oh, so this is an issue withe kdesu then?
[04:12] <soulrider> level1: did you restart it? :P
[04:12] <joe4288> its when i try using the install program i have trouble
[04:12] <level1> what is the exact package associated with mp3s in amarok?
[04:12] <level1> soulrider: amarok, not kde
[04:13] <soulrider> level1: libxine-extracodecs
[04:13] <Schuenemann> level1, libxine-extracodecs
[04:13] <soulrider> that WILL make it work
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> level1, amarok uses the xine engine by default to play files
[04:13] <joe4288> hmm what do you think i should check out
[04:13] <joe4288> maybe log into kde through the root and update my files?
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, maybe reinstall kdesu?
[04:14] <joe4288> or can i run apt through the command terminal like debian?
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, yup, apt works just fine
[04:14] <level1> soulrider: besides medibuntu, are there any inside tricks to getting media to play as well as possible on my computer?  My last ubuntu install, sometimes the media played a little choppy even with all the codecs I could find
[04:14] <joe4288> sounds good ill pull up a terminal now and see what happens
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, most cmds are the same as under deb
[04:15] <joe4288> well deb was a little wild for me (still kinda new to linux) so i figured i try known territory but a little more under controll
[04:15] <joe4288> plus im happy i can still use deb packages if need be
[04:15] <soulrider> level1: i never used the medibuntu stuff
[04:15] <wolferine> to get nfs working, what service does it use (that u will need to restart) ?
[04:15] <soulrider> and medibuntu somehow sounds like ubuntu for war medics :P
[04:16] <soulrider> wolferine: i think theres a nfs dawmon, let me check
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, all the underlying debian stuff is still there, but im not sure if vanilla debian pkgs will install properly, ubuntu changes some stuff around
[04:16] <wolferine> yeah, I just see nfs-common
[04:16] <wolferine> but thats not it
[04:16] <joe4288> hmmm thats no fun
[04:16] <soulrider> wolferine: i think its netfs
[04:16] <wolferine> was reading the doc, but its not "ubuntu"-ized
[04:17] <soulrider> im not sure though, im running archlinux
[04:17] <joe4288> well im updating through apt now
[04:17] <joe4288> then ill reinstall kdesu
[04:17] <wolferine> its not the portmapper either
[04:17] <joe4288> and restart
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, i don't think there's a kdesu pkg by itself, i believe its under one of the main kde pkgs
[04:18] <joe4288> so then what should i do about kdesu not working?
[04:18] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: this could cause trouble :)
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, did you just add the root acct? if so, then you may have to relog/restart
[04:19] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: no i installed it when i installed ubuntu (expert mode(
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> ah, k
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, i think its kde-base that kdesu is under, but don't quote me on that :)
[04:20] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: well its being updated so when i restart ill let you know if its working
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> k
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: but i found it strange that if i log off then back on my mouse dissapears?
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: have any idea what would cause that?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> ?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> that is weird
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: yea i know cant really think what would cause that but ill see if its fixed after the update
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, probably an issue with xorg.conf...
[04:22] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: does the kde theme manger have to be installed because i dont see it in the system setup
[04:22] <draik> Hello
[04:22] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: so i cant install the kde themes i have
[04:22] <draik> I am having an issue trying to access an online radio
[04:22] <draik> This is the error message I am getting...
[04:22] <draik> No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, try kcontrol...that one has it im pretty sure
[04:23] <draik> Totem could not play 'mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg'.
[04:23] <draik> No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, the old style system settings
[04:23] <draik> In that order.
[04:23] <level1> what does this mean? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:23] <draik> I'm trying to listen to my brother-in-law's baseball game and I can't get the online radio to load/play.
[04:23] <draik> Any clues?
[04:24] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i dont see kcontroll any where unless your talking about the system configurator thats there
[04:24] <BluesKaj> level1, using an ATI card?
[04:24] <level1> yeah
[04:24] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: changing distros is hard :(
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, run it in a cmd line...trust me, its there :)
[04:24] <level1> BluesKaj: man, I been through this too many times
[04:24] <level1> BluesKaj: so, I install fglrx, then I run aticonfig --intial, then what?
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: koo koo wheres the program located that lets you edit the k menu items (cant remeber what its called)
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, tell me about it, used slack for the longest time, then went to gentoo on this machine and kubuntu on the laptop. fun times :P
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: dam all over the place
[04:25] <draik> Anyone here know what I might be missing?
[04:25] <level1> !fglrx
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: howd you like gentoo (wanted to try it but still a little to new to linux to think i could pull it off)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> level1 , no ...try this tutorial ... it 's apatched , modded driver especially written for fglrx on feisty: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, it should be a right click option on the kmenu IIRC, other than that i don't know
[04:27] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i was talking about putting a new item in the k menu and adding the command to run a program (like kcontroll)
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, its a pita to get set up, but once you get it going its beautiful
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, not sure...
[04:27] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i knew debian had it but god help me i cant remeber what its called
[04:28] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: but the updates done so ill brb and let you know if its all good
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> k
[04:28] <draik> What do I need to play mms?
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> draik, maybe try a different player...
[04:30] <draik> hitmanWilly: How do I do that if firefox is selecting Totem?
[04:30] <level1> BluesKaj: man, thats a long tutorial... can't I just do it the fiesty way?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> draik, mms is multimedia streams ...they could be anything
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> draik, copy the URL into the other player, like amarok
[04:30] <BluesKaj> mostly mp3 or aaac tho
[04:30] <BluesKaj> aac
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, his issue is that totem can't open URL's
[04:30] <redoo> hy@all
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, ie net radio
[04:31] <BluesKaj> amarok has a much better internet radio setup than totem and the others, but one has to wait for the codecs to load ...sometimes takes some patience and clicking play 2 or 3 times dependening on the buffer
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: well im back
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly:
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: and it seems to be working
[04:31] <draik> hitmanWilly: mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg
[04:32] <draik> I can't play it
[04:32] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: im tired need sleep so thanks for the help good night
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> draik, ok, try this, on the cmd line: mplayer <URL>
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> draik, see if that works
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, np
[04:33] <level1> whats the equivently to kdesu in gnome?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> gksu
[04:33] <level1> gksu restricted-manager
[04:33] <level1> bash: /usr/bin/command-not-found: restricted: cannot specify `/' in command names
[04:34] <level1> so, apparently not
[04:34] <draik> hitmanWilly: Sorry, it didn't play
[04:34] <draik> In the URL, I include the "mms://" or no?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> draik , it doesn't play, period...not all streams will play
[04:35] <draik> BluesKaj: What is your recommended fix?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> dunno if there is one
[04:35] <draik> What do you use to play streams?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> i usually just move on
[04:35] <BluesKaj> amarok
[04:36] <draik> Any special packages/plugins?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> but ppl have to realize it takes a bit of patience ...the stream has to load the buffer and decode so it takes a 10 secs sometimes to get it to play
[04:38] <draik> BluesKaj: Its just not doing it for me. I will copy the error message from Amarok
[04:39] <BluesKaj> draik, you may have to install mp3 support , it usually will self install once you try toplay one
[04:39] <draik> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes
[04:40] <BluesKaj> patience draik...wait til it loads , then click play again
[04:40] <draik> BluesKaj:
[04:40] <draik> Error Loading Media
[04:40] <draik> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[04:40] <draik> mms://radiocasasgrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg
[04:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, that one isn't working...are you sure it's whole URL ?
[04:41] <draik> That's what I got
[04:42] <BluesKaj> if it fails in amarok , it prolly won't work anywhere
[04:42] <draik> :(
[04:42] <vecina> someone explain this :Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/amd64/ffmpeg_0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 88.191.13.100 80] 
[04:43] <waltercool> hi there :)
[04:43] <vecina> i need ffmpeg
[04:43] <BluesKaj> draik, checkout the other radio streams
[04:43] <waltercool> i cant download j2sdk1.5, i only have 1.4, where can i get it?
[04:43] <draik> BluesKaj: Ok.
[04:45] <waltercool> some idea?
[04:46] <draik> BluesKaj: I am able to play another station, but they are flash
[04:46] <BluesKaj> video ? ...amarok is audio only
[04:47] <waltercool> Hello, Im Mattias Ettrich, And U Are Discovering Amarok Fast Foward
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, you may try sun's site
[04:49] <Schuenemann> hitmanWilly, why not apt-get?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> is the 1.5 sdk in the repos?
[04:51] <Schuenemann> it sure is
[04:51] <Schuenemann> and 1.6 is too
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> huh, my bad :)
[04:51] <waltercool> mmm
[04:51] <waltercool> i haven't
[04:51] <waltercool> but installing a bin, can be bad
[04:51] <Schuenemann> waltercool, sun-java6-jddk
[04:51] <Schuenemann> sun-java6-jdk*
[04:52] <waltercool> Schuenemann: I have it installed, but netbeans dont recognize it
[04:52] <Schuenemann> is it working?
[04:52] <waltercool> Schuenemann: JAVA_JRE home
[04:52] <waltercool> JAVA_HOME sorry
[04:52] <Schuenemann> java @ command-line works?
[04:53] <waltercool> yes
[04:53] <waltercool> and javac too
[04:53] <Schuenemann> version 5?
[04:53] <waltercool> yes
[04:53] <Schuenemann> and what do you get with netbeans?
[04:53] <waltercool> well... i mispell, was with tomcat5.5
[04:54] <waltercool>  * no JDK found - please set JAVA_HOME
[04:54] <Schuenemann> hmm... can we start over?
[04:54] <waltercool> im trying to install tomcat5.5
[04:54] <Schuenemann> so, did you set JAVA_HOME?
[04:54] <waltercool> how?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> sacktime here ...nite folks
[04:54] <Schuenemann> edit ~/.bashrc
[04:55] <waltercool> Schuenemann: How i add it? JAVA_HOME=/.../...?
[04:55] <Schuenemann> waltercool, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25919/
[04:56] <waltercool> oh... thanks
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, export JAVA_HOME=
[04:56] <Schuenemann> that catalina_home is not needed
[04:56] <waltercool> why? if tomcat use catalina :S
[04:56] <Schuenemann> you just don't need it
[04:57] <Schuenemann> I mean you don't have to set that variable
[04:57] <waltercool> lol... better
[04:58] <waltercool> wow... now works... thanks
[04:58] <waltercool> :)
[04:58] <Schuenemann> :-p
[04:59] <waltercool> now... im going to see my new dvds of bible black :P
[04:59] <vecina> haut
[04:59] <Schuenemann> bible black?
[04:59] <waltercool> yes
[04:59] <vecina> anime
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[04:59] <waltercool> hentai... xD
[04:59] <vecina> yes
[04:59] <vecina> VERY
[04:59] <waltercool> im collector of hentai... and i need rank my dvds
[04:59] <Schuenemann> why you need tomcat for that?
[04:59] <waltercool> xD
[04:59] <vecina> i have one.
[04:59] <vecina> Boku no pico
[05:00] <waltercool> tomcat is for make servlets :P with apache
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> oh god...here we go...
[05:00] <vecina> But thats a shota bwahaha
[05:00] <waltercool> vecina: Boku no pico :O, is a good design?
[05:00] <Schuenemann> and you need servlets to mas... I mean, watch hentai?
[05:00] <waltercool> :O shooota :love:
[05:00] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno if youd like it
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> XD
[05:00] <vecina> oh you would
[05:00] <vecina> send a pm, lol
[05:01] <waltercool> vecina: shota is cool, like lolicon :)
[05:01] <vecina> if its hentai i probbaly like it
[05:01] <waltercool> but i cant find a lolicon anime :(
[05:01] <vecina> im perverted :(
[05:01] <waltercool> im more perverted
[05:01] <waltercool> xD
[05:01] <vecina> download "polygon love" then
[05:01] <vecina> its a loli video game
[05:01] <waltercool> :O for linux?
[05:02] <vecina> it even has squeaky japanese girl voices going "PORIGANU ROVU!!!"
[05:02] <waltercool> xDDDDDDD
[05:02] <vecina> i udnno, i think windows, but its small so it should work in wine
[05:02] <waltercool> but i prefer anime hentai... i cant get more doujinshis xD
[05:02] <waltercool> i have a lot
[05:02] <yanni_> hello, trying to install my wireless card Belkin, I went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver) but I cannot find the drivr
[05:03] <vecina> Bush is trying to make loli and shota illegal. They actually arrested ne dude, but he was some pedophile on probation so
[05:03] <waltercool> vecina: :O!!!!
[05:03] <vecina> and he downloaded in a library c.c
[05:03] <vecina> BUT
[05:03] <waltercool> vecina: But if ONLY a anime... isnt real
[05:03] <yanni_> can anyone help
[05:03] <vecina> take that up with our government and show them the constitution
[05:03] <yanni_> I've been messing with this for 2 hours
[05:04] <waltercool> vecina: But shota and loli are the best for me... rest of hentai is too common..
[05:04] <vecina> unfortunately americans are not contextual thinkers like the japanese. The japanese seperate reality and fantasy.
[05:04] <vecina> americans have a problem with that.
[05:04] <vecina> Yanni, whats up
[05:05] <waltercool> vecina: yeah... well... im lucky, bush isn't my president xD
[05:05] <vecina> ah
[05:05] <waltercool> boku no pico is yaoi??!! wtf?
[05:05] <vecina> Yeah im  a loli/shota fan. Boku no pico has a lot of crossdressing too which i dig
[05:06] <vecina> its shota
[05:06] <yanni_> I need help getting my system to recognize my wireless G card
[05:06] <waltercool> but... shota or straight shota?
[05:06] <vecina> yanni_ Ive heard that issue a lot :(
[05:06] <vecina> waltercool  shota shota
[05:06] <vecina> man/boi
[05:06] <yanni_> it is a Belkin wireless G
[05:06] <yanni_> so what does that mean
[05:06] <vecina> I wonder why linux hates wireless....
[05:06] <waltercool> wow, in collector... i need have it :P
[05:07] <yanni_> that there is no solution, I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)) but I can't download the driver
[05:07] <vecina> why not?
[05:07] <yanni_> I don't care about all that stuff I just want to get this working
[05:07] <vecina> waltercool : get it off of isosearch.com
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> linux doesn't hate wireless, the hw manufacturers seem to hate linux
[05:07] <vecina> waltercool  or deadfrog
[05:08] <waltercool> wow... i was search in mininova xD... im going to isosearch xD
[05:08] <vecina> watercool  Oops! i mean isohunt
[05:08] <vecina> watercool  And use ktorrent :D it has a built in site browser
[05:08] <waltercool> lol... this webpage sound me more xD
[05:08] <waltercool> vecina: But... ktorrent drop me error each some time :S
[05:08] <waltercool> have a bug?
[05:09] <vecina> waltercool This does sound like a bug. I dunno what kind it would be
[05:09] <vecina> waltercool Try running it from terminal so you can read the error
[05:09] <waltercool> but, isnt a common error, only happen when im out of PC
[05:10] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno then.
[05:10] <vecina> waltercool: whatever you use, get pico. It has crossdressing and all sorts of good stuff haha
[05:10] <vecina> *loves the ladyboys*
[05:11] <waltercool> lool... i prefer straight things... but
[05:11] <waltercool> is only A ova?
[05:11] <vecina> man, why cant i install ffmpeg >.<
[05:11] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno, thats all i could find...
[05:11] <waltercool> vecina: what error?
[05:11] <vecina> waltercool:  Personally im bi so, i enjoy anything.
[05:11] <vecina> It says that it cant find the file on medibuntu
[05:11] <vecina> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com feisty/free ffmpeg 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2    <--- 404!
[05:12] <waltercool> xD but ur women, right?...
[05:12] <waltercool> mmm... rarely error
[05:12] <vecina> waltercool: No im a guy
[05:12] <waltercool> mm... rarely
[05:12] <vecina> yes real rare
[05:12] <vecina> i dunno what to do, i need ffmpeg. im having glitches
[05:12] <waltercool> this happen making apt-get install ffmpeg?
[05:12] <vecina> Yes
[05:13] <vecina> E: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/amd64/ffmpeg_0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 88.191.13.100 80
[05:13] <vecina> Thats what it says
[05:13] <waltercool> maybe ur country repository's
[05:13] <vecina> i dunno why my repos suck ;_;
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> vecina, yeah, just checked, that location gives me a 404 as well
[05:13] <waltercool> but u can fix changing to official
[05:14] <waltercool> i think
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: Maybe its down, but the rest of the site works!
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> vecina, i know, checked that too
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: im in the process of updating / upgrading though, its 88 megs of stuff
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: maybe they changed the location
[05:15] <brian__> is there a config to remove the verticle line from the system tray?
[05:15] <vecina> brian__: you have a green line?
[05:15] <vecina> brian__: Try right clicking on it, configure, appearance.
[05:15] <brian__> no just the normal sepperator
[05:16] <vecina> maybe im thinking of the wrong thing
[05:16] <brian__> its ok :D
[05:16] <vecina> waltercool: i wish i could pm
[05:16] <waltercool> personal message?
[05:17] <vecina> yah
[05:17] <vecina> it says i need to phhh register
[05:17] <waltercool> lool... register ur name :P
[05:17] <vecina> how
[05:17] <waltercool> | /ns register...
[05:17] <vecina> | /ns register
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> vecina, try /msg NickServ register
[05:18] <vecina> huh
[05:18] <brian__> usefull info :)
[05:19] <vecina> yay! Talking about shota and loli here isnt a good idea after all
[05:19] <brian__> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[05:19] <vecina> it worked already
[05:19] <evsophomore2009> hey does anyone in here know how to put a url into a word?
[05:20] <brian__> ah
[05:23] <aka_dennister> howdy folks...printer isn't working with this 2.6.20-16-generic kernel, while it did work for previous kernel...can anyone help me troubleshoot? I don't know where to start because the error message gives absolutely no info
[05:45] <Schuenemann> aka_dennister, hp?
[05:48] <t0lkman> why kubuntu ignore my keyboard layout changing?
[05:48] <t0lkman> i mean it ignores the keyboard shortcut
[05:58] <rathel_> hmm.. How do I add network drives to fstab? I added some but when I browse no files come up.
[05:59] <jose__> how can I connect to another irc chanel ?
[06:00] <crdlb> jose__, /join #channel
[06:03] <evsophomore2009> I NEED HELP SOMEONE
[06:03] <Dragnslcr> You don't say
[06:04] <jose__> which server should I connect to (irc)
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: don't shout, that won't get you help
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> just ask
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> jose__- whatever server you want
[06:04] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: okay, on Konqueror, my Address bar is GONE!!!
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> jose__- this server is irc.freenode.net
[06:04] <evsophomore2009> how to i make it visible again?
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> Check Settings -> Toolbars
[06:05] <Admiral_Chicago> yep
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Location toolbar
[06:06] <evsophomore2009> Wait, Location, then toolbar?
[06:06] <evsophomore2009> i dont see it
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> No, Settings -> Toolbars
[06:07] <jose__> how can I change my nick ?
[06:07] <evsophomore2009> when i clikc on Main Toolbar, the addrewss bar still dosent show up
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago>  /nick newnick
[06:08] <ubuntu__> if I delete my etc/mtab and reboot will it be rebuilt?
[06:09] <Dragnslcr> evsophomore2009- did you try checking Location Toolbar?
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> Location...then toolbar?
[06:11] <rathel> hmm.. How do I add network drives to fstab? I added some but when I browse no files come up.
[06:12] <evsophomore2009> Dragnslcr: im confused
[06:12] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have a different version of Konqueror than I do, it's the second option in Settings -> Toolbars
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> Yeah but the Address bar is gone
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> it dosent show up even when the option is selceted
[06:14] <Dragnslcr> Something is very broken then. That option hides and shows the location bar just fine for me
[06:23] <jose__> where can I find channels to connect ?
[06:24] <klobster> is it possible to create a folder that users can rename, but not delete?
[06:25] <jose__> can anyone help me in order to add irc channels into konversation ?
[06:27] <Dragnslcr> klobster- not with normal permissions I don't think
[06:27] <jason__> are you using Konversation jose? Then click Window -> Channel List. I think you can also just hit F5
[06:27] <Dragnslcr> Moving and deleting files both require write permission
[06:28] <klobster> I had a feeling
[06:29] <Dragnslcr> Something like SELinux might support it, but I'm not sure if Ubuntu has it or not
[06:29] <Dragnslcr> !selinux
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <Rictoo> how do I find out what sound driver is currently being used?
[06:32] <yanni_> can anyone help me with a weireless card issue
[06:34] <Dragnslcr> Rictoo- System Settings -> Sound
[06:34] <Rictoo> no
[06:34] <Rictoo> autodetect is selected
[06:34] <Rictoo> but I wanna see what drive it chose
[06:35] <jeanmass> hello
[06:35] <^V^> Rictoo: maybe in the KInfoCentre?
[06:35] <JEANMASS> i cant change my host name graphically
[06:36] <JEANMASS> when i go to system setting > network settings
[06:36] <JEANMASS> and try to change hostname
[06:37] <JEANMASS> i receive the following error msg
[06:37] <yanni_>  how can I get my Belkin Wireless G card to work?
[06:37] <JEANMASS> the default gateway IP address is invalid
[06:38] <JEANMASS> why?
[06:40] <JEANMASS> ..
[06:40] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you need help?
[06:41] <^V^> JEANMASS: have you tried setting the gateway ip to a valid value?
[06:41] <jose> can anyone help me to add a server to konversation ?
[06:41] <JEANMASS> well what i tried is to change my hostname
[06:41] <jose> some server fro argentina
[06:41] <^V^> jose: file->server list
[06:41] <JEANMASS> but i cant, because when i press apply
[06:42] <kkerwin> Hi, I wish to setup Samba using the SWAT interface, but cannot seem to connect. Anyone know how to setup SWAT?
[06:42] <JEANMASS> i get the msg "the default gateway IP address is invalid"
[06:42] <^V^> JEANMASS: have you tried to set the gateway _before_ anything else?
[06:42] <^V^> so set gateway, apply, change other values..etc
[06:42] <JEANMASS> ^V^: ??? i dont think so
[06:42] <JEANMASS> how to?
[06:43] <JEANMASS> everytime i want to change hostname i have to do it in konsole
[06:43] <JEANMASS> i cant do it graphicaly
[06:43] <kkerwin> JEANMASS: /etc/hostname ??
[06:43] <Rictoo> Guys, did you hear the news!?
[06:43] <^V^> JEANMASS: what have you got in network settings->routes?
[06:44] <Rictoo> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/japan-sinks-into-ocean/
[06:44] <kkerwin> Rictoo: No, what's that?
[06:44] <JEANMASS> 0.0.0.0
[06:44] <^V^> have you tried changing that first?
[06:44] <JEANMASS> no
[06:44] <JEANMASS> before 7.04 i could change hostname just by changing hostname
[06:45] <JEANMASS> since 7.04 its not working
[06:45] <^V^> hmm
[06:45] <kkerwin> Hi, I wish to setup Samba using the SWAT interface, but cannot seem to connect. Anyone know how to setup SWAT?
[06:45] <JEANMASS> what should i put in rout?
[06:46] <Rictoo> How do I find what repo a certain package was in?
[06:46] <JEANMASS> before i just went to System Settings > Network Settings > Domaine Name System
[06:46] <JEANMASS> change my name, click apply done
[06:46] <JEANMASS> now i cant
[06:46] <JEANMASS> but it works in Konsole
[06:47] <JEANMASS> i have to edit 2 files
[06:47] <JEANMASS> dont remember which ones
[06:47] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vi /etc/hostname
[06:48] <JEANMASS> thanx
[06:48] <JEANMASS> it is still weird it doenst work graphicaly
[06:49] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: weird
[06:50] <Dodger73> hi all
[06:50] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you will need to restart X, i think
[06:50] <emxinhemdethuong> chao co ai ko vay
[06:50] <Dodger73> anyone with experience with fglrx / ati cards around? :)
[06:50] <JEANMASS> i changed host name in /etc/hostname
[06:50] <JEANMASS> however
[06:51] <JEANMASS> 127.0.1.1 aliases is still my old hostname
[06:51] <JEANMASS> ???
[06:51] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you can also do "sudo  hostname -v new_hostname"
[06:52] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: might need to restart networking (try /etc/init.d/networking restart ; however, try the ^^ command first)
[06:52] <JEANMASS> what does -v mean?
[06:54] <JEANMASS> my system is buggy
[06:54] <JEANMASS> have to reboot
[06:54] <JEANMASS> cant launch konsole
[06:54] <JEANMASS> or anything
[06:54] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: uggh, linux needs no rebooting.
[06:54] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: try alt + f2
[06:55] <JEANMASS> the run command box is frozen
[06:56] <JEANMASS> KDEinit could not lauchn Konsole
[06:56] <JEANMASS> rebooting brb
[06:58] <JEANMASS> hello
[06:58] <JEANMASS> alright change hostname
[06:58] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: cool
[06:59] <JEANMASS> but static host 127.0.1.1 aliases is still my old hostname
[06:59] <JEANMASS> why?
[06:59] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you mean 127.0.0.1?
[06:59] <JEANMASS> why doesnt it change everything?
[06:59] <NickPresta> I'm having a problem with /etc/init.d/. I wrote a script for it last night (using another application script as a template) and when booted into Kubuntu today, Apache was not started (this script autostarts apache). However, when I ran `sudo /etc/init.d/apache start`, it worked fine. Any thoughts?
[06:59] <JEANMASS> no, i mean 127.0.1.1
[06:59] <JEANMASS> did not change to my new hostname
[07:00] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vim /etc/hosts also, maybe?
[07:00] <JEANMASS> i'll try
[07:01] <JEANMASS> ok, i changed it
[07:01] <JEANMASS> but why isnt automatialy changed when i change hostname?
[07:01] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: not sure, sorry
[07:01] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: hostname -v should have changed it
[07:02] <JEANMASS> well, it doesnt on my PC
[07:02] <JEANMASS> i tried many times
[07:02] <JEANMASS> have to do it manualy
[07:03] <JEANMASS> also when changing the hostname graphicaly i get the error msg "the default gateway IP address is invalid"
[07:03] <JEANMASS> what should by this default gateway IP adress be?
[07:04] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: i think 192.168.1.1
[07:04] <JEANMASS> i have 0.0.0.0
[07:05] <JEANMASS> shoud i change it to 192.168.1.1?
[07:07] <JEANMASS> is this an installation bug?
[07:07] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: depends, but it should not be 0.0.0.0, anyhow
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, yeah, 0.0.0.0 is definately wrong
[07:07] <JEANMASS> it must be an installation bug
[07:07] <JEANMASS> alright changing to 192.168.1.1
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> maybe...
[07:07] <JEANMASS> since 7.04 my system is not working as fluently as before
[07:08] <JEANMASS> alright with this new gateway ip adress i can change the hostname graphicaly
[07:08] <JEANMASS> however 127.0.1.1 do not change
[07:09] <JEANMASS> how to reinitiate net set?
[07:10] <JEANMASS> have to reboot
[07:10] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: do you have dhcp or static ip?
[07:10] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: no need to reboot
[07:10] <JEANMASS> robotgeek:  i cant launch konsole
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, eth0?
[07:10] <JEANMASS> or nothing
[07:10] <JEANMASS> cant launch system settings
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> wtf?
[07:10] <robotgeek> yeah, wtf!
[07:10] <JEANMASS> can launch amarok
[07:11] <JEANMASS> but not konsole or system settings
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, is this your first user acct?
[07:11] <JEANMASS> no amarok do not work
[07:11] <JEANMASS> it is my only user accoint
[07:11] <JEANMASS> old pc
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, try alt-f2, then xterm
[07:12] <JEANMASS> i did alt f2,  typed konsole
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, that should get you a terminal
[07:12] <robotgeek> it apparently hangs, alt+f2
[07:12] <JEANMASS> the box froze
[07:12] <JEANMASS> ad before
[07:12] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: just ctrl + alt + del,
[07:12] <robotgeek> it swill restart X, faster than rebooting
[07:12] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: then, we can try xterm
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> robotgeek, i think you mean ctrl alt bksp
[07:13] <JEANMASS> ctrl alt del just ask me if i want to log out, reboot
[07:13] <robotgeek> hitmanWilly: yeah, sorry :)
[07:13] <JEANMASS> you mean ctrl alt backspace?
[07:13] <JEANMASS> ok
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, yes
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> too late :)
[07:14] <robotgeek> weirdest ever
[07:14] <Rictoo> !alsa
[07:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> old pc, may kubuntu may be a little bit much for it to handle
[07:14] <Jjaannuuss> is it possible to force rerecognition of pephirials in kubuntu? my touchpad ain't recognized properly.
[07:14] <JEANMASS> hello
[07:15] <JEANMASS> my default gateway IP is back to 0.0.0.0!!
[07:15] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: usb?
[07:15] <Jjaannuuss> no it's a fixed one on my laptop
[07:15] <Jjaannuuss> it's recognized as ps2 generic mouse.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, you may have to twiddle with xorg.conf
[07:16] <jose> how can i change the colour of the font in irc ?
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, do you have irssi on your system?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> irssi?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> dont know
[07:17] <JEANMASS> system settings is buggy
[07:17] <JEANMASS> after a while i can laucnh it, but not in admin mode
[07:17] <JEANMASS> after a while i cant launch it anymore
[07:17] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me out with Konqueror?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> and neither for other apps
[07:17] <Jjaannuuss> hitmanwilly: when i run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" it saying th part about generic mouse, i can't understand how to change that
[07:18] <JEANMASS> why does Gateway IP comes back to 0.0.0.0?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, so it doesn't work i take it...
[07:18] <NickPresta> JEANMASS, to launch system settings or kcontrol with admin privs, use `kdesu kcontrol` or `kdesu systemsettings`
[07:19] <Jjaannuuss> well the pad works but not all the neat scrolling features.
[07:19] <polypusher> Hey, my ubuntu studio only works when i have a monitor connected via a VGA socket
[07:19] <evsophomore2009> Ructoo: Are you familliar with Konqueror?
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i type kdesu sustemsettings in katapult?
[07:19] <NickPresta> JEANMASS, in a terminal (Konsole)
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i type kdesu sustemsettings in katapult?
[07:19] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: try this link maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[07:19] <JEANMASS> fuck
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i cant launch anything
[07:19] <Jjaannuuss> i've read all those.
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i've reboot
[07:20] <JEANMASS> be back
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, you may have to configure xorg for scrollwheel/bar functionality
[07:20] <evsophomore2009> !laungage
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laungage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <^V^> nothing there helps?
[07:20] <evsophomore2009> !Language
[07:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> case sensitive bot...
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm...
[07:21] <^V^> doesn't correct spelling mistakes
[07:21] <evsophomore2009> yep
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> turing test failure :P
[07:21] <evsophomore2009> Hitmanwilly: are you familliar with Konqueror?
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> evsophomore2009, a very little, what's up?
[07:22] <evsophomore2009> well for some reason my Address bar is gone
[07:22] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: run xev and see if it responds to any events
[07:22] <evsophomore2009> and when i go under settings, Toolbar, the option is chosen to show the address bar, but its still not apperaring
[07:22] <Jjaannuuss> i'm new to kubuntu and linux and havn't learned what controls what. is it xor.conf that controls "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" or the other way around?
[07:22] <waltercool> hi there... how can i free linux cached memory?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, neither
[07:23] <^V^> xorg.conf is a configuration file for the x org server
[07:24] <JEANMASS> back
[07:24] <Jjaannuuss> yes i understand that, but what controls how devices are recognized?
[07:24] <JEANMASS> why does my default gateway ip come back to 0.0.0.0. after reboot?
[07:25] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: what is set in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:25] <waltercool> Jjaannuuss: How i can free cached memory of linux?? Use me a LOOOOOT of memory
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, it'll free itself up as needed
[07:26] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But why use me a lot?? 400MB :S
[07:26] <^V^> waltercool: cache is there to be used
[07:26] <robotgeek> waltercool: linux uses your RAM, that is good :)
[07:26] <^V^> no point in keeping it empty
[07:26] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: And Konversation use me 120MB :S
[07:27] <waltercool> well... now 65
[07:27] <evsophomore2009> can anyone help me even a little?
[07:27] <^V^> waltercool: that probably isn't an accurate number...
[07:27] <JEANMASS> many things
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> wow...that's one bulky irc client :P
[07:27] <JEANMASS> where should i paste it?
[07:27] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:27] <^V^> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <waltercool> mmm... but i can know the exactly free memory?
[07:27] <evsophomore2009> !Pastebin
[07:27] <waltercool> using free command?
[07:28] <JEANMASS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25929/
[07:28] <^V^> yep
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, there's a cmd line switch for free that ignores the cache IIRC
[07:28] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But... is necessary use this big amount of ram?
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, don't think of it as used...it'll be freed up whenever another app needs it
[07:29] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But... linux apps uses a lot of ram memory (in common)
[07:30] <^V^> waltercool: what is the point of having a lot of memory if it doesn't get used?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, it speeds up program loading times by caching recent ones in ram
[07:30] <evsophomore2009> So im lost why everyone is ignoring my problem
[07:30] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: i dont like use swap too much
[07:30] <JEANMASS> ??
[07:30] <^V^> evsophomore2009: its not being ignored, perhaps no one knows the answer?
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> if an app comes along that needs the memory, it unloads the oldest apps first and works up the chain until its out of ram, then it goes to the swap file
[07:31] <NickPresta> I'm having a problem with /etc/init.d/. I wrote a script for it last night (using another application script as a template) and when booted into Kubuntu today, Apache was not started (this script autostarts apache). However, when I ran `sudo /etc/init.d/apache start`, it worked fine. Any thoughts?
[07:31] <nixternal> evsophomore2009: I noticed you just asked for help, remember don't ask to ask a question or ask if someone can help...just let the channel know your problem or question
[07:32] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: ??
[07:32] <waltercool> but when swap is in use... and i close a lot of apps, swap is working yet
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> without rebuilding amarok from source, is there any way to get full console debug information?
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> nixternal, he actually asked his question further up
[07:32] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: moment
[07:32] <nixternal> ahh, I only scrolled up so far :)
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> I don't recall seeing an amarok-debug package, or anything with a similar name
[07:32] <nixternal> NickPresta: sounds like you need to add rc.d/ entries
[07:32] <JEANMASS> what shoult the default gateway ip again?
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> I'm trying to get it so that I can see the output of scripts in the console
[07:32] <JEANMASS> so i put it back
[07:32] <^V^> evsophomore2009: are you choosing 'location bar' ?
 Yes i am
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, usually 192.168.1.1
[07:33] <nixternal> rc*.d entries rather
[07:33] <NickPresta> nixternal, I ran update-rc.d and it appears to have worked properly. Is there something else I should've done?
[07:33] <evsophomore2009> and when i disable the location bar, a few little dots appear at the corner, but no address bar
[07:33] <nixternal> NickPresta: I think that is about it
[07:33] <evsophomore2009> ***** When i Enable it
[07:33] <nixternal> been a while since I added anything to init.d
[07:34] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: what interface are you using?
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> evsophomore2009, it may just be shrunk down, you should be able to move it around IIRC
[07:34] <robotgeek> howdy nixternal
[07:34] <nixternal> hola robotgeek, long time no see ;)
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> WOW i feel incredable retarted
[07:35] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: interface?
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> lol haha thanks guys
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> im kinda tired
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> we all get there sometimes :P
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, as in eth<>
[07:35] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you have eth0, eth1, eth2 , wireless, and so on
[07:36] <robotgeek> nixternal: yup, long time. work + school == no time!
[07:36] <nixternal> hehe, I hear you there
[07:36] <JEANMASS> eth0
[07:36] <JEANMASS> eth0 10.200.2.222
[07:42] <JEANMASS> am i connected?
[07:42] <JEANMASS> anyone here?
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> yeah
[07:43] <JEANMASS> ok =)
[07:43] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: my interfaces file doesn't have the same entries as yours, here is mine: http://pastebin.com/930572
[07:43] <JEANMASS> my pc is buggy
[07:43] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: back up your older file before making changes :)
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, what are the specs on your pc?
[07:44] <JEANMASS> PIV 1.6, 512RAM
[07:44] <zblach_> hi all. quick question. i have a four button wireless mouse. how can i configure buttons 3 and 4?
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, nm :)
[07:44] <JEANMASS> so i should replace mine by yours?
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, plenty to run kubuntu
[07:45] <JEANMASS> which files again? /etc/inferface?
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, you said you just upgraded right? you may want to back up your home folder and try a fresh install
[07:46] <JEANMASS> this is a fresh install
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, nm :)
[07:47] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: which file should i change?
[07:50] <^V^> JEANMASS: to change hostname?
[07:50] <JEANMASS> interfaces
[07:50] <^V^>  /etc/network/interfaces
[07:51] <JEANMASS> thx
[07:52] <Riggzy> Hm, are there any power saving configs concerning harddrives? Trying to get Kubuntu running nice on a laptop but the disks just keep spinning and spinning
[07:53] <Rictoo> guys
[07:53] <Rictoo> I have a friend who's sound is not working
[07:53] <Rictoo> it just stopped working out of the blue
[07:53] <Rictoo> we went through all the steps to confuigure alsa
[07:53] <Rictoo> the volumes are all up, but no sound is hear
[07:53] <Rictoo> d
[07:55] <zblach_> Rictoo: serious comment. check to see that both main and PCM and master are not muted.
[07:55] <zblach_> **pcm and master
[07:59] <Rictoo> zblach_: they aren't
[07:59] <Rictoo> but he has an onboard card too
[07:59] <Rictoo> how does linux know which to choose?
[07:59] <Rictoo> (pci card, or onboard)
[08:00] <zblach_> i can't recall. i disabled onboard through the bios
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, the bios may auto disable the onboard when it picks up the pci
[08:00] <Rictoo> ok
[08:01] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: It doesn't
[08:01] <Rictoo> both are there with lspci
[08:01] <Rictoo> oddly I got the sound to work for him
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, you could disable onboard thru bios if you want
[08:01] <Rictoo> but he randomly came to me just now and said "It stopped working"
[08:01] <Rictoo> and I checked everything
[08:01] <Rictoo> and I don't see why it shouldn't work
[08:02] <Riggzy> Is it an Audigy?
[08:02] <Rictoo> soundblaster
[08:02] <Rictoo> but i told you, it worked 25 min ago
[08:05] <klobster> trying to fix my nonbooting system; booted the livecd (fiesty) chroot segfaults?
[08:05] <JEANMASS> thx
[08:06] <klobster> but chroot _will_ run on native /
[08:06] <schizm> anyone have issues with gvim and 7.04?
[08:19] <Jjaannuuss> my alps touchpad won't recognize properly anybody that can help me out?
[08:19] <rathel_> I've added a network folder to my fstab, and I can't write to it, I have dmask=777,fmask=777 in the options part, what else do I need?
[08:21] <Jjaannuuss> my alps touchpad won't recognize properly anybody that can help me out?
[08:35] <klobster> do I need to chroot to do update-initramfs?
[08:35] <klobster> ^^ while booted from the livCD, that is
[08:35] <pawitp> sudo mount [device]  /mnt
[08:36] <pawitp> sudo chroot /mnt
[08:36] <pawitp> but then I didn't mount the /dev and stuff so I don't know if it'll work
[08:36] <klobster> I mount (--bind) /dev and /proc, but it segfaults
[08:37] <david_> !nvidia
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <klobster> is there a command to test the partition table (not fsck) for errors?
[08:41] <vecina> What does it mean when a package is "automatiocally held back" ? should i not install it/
[08:42] <DaSkreech> vecina: might have some conflicts
[08:42] <vecina> DSkreech well its making my package alert icon stay up :(
[08:42] <david_> OK, there is a trick to this i know.. im in kubuntu feisty trying to install my NVIDIA card.. the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto tells me to go to System>Administration>Restricted Devices Manager.. but I dont c it
[08:43] <vecina> !restricted
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:45] <david_> do i need to install the devices manager using adept????
[08:45] <david_> pls help
[08:45] <DaSkreech> david_: that's the Gnome way of doing it
[08:46] <david_> DaSkreech: ty, is there a good easy way in kde
[08:46] <malik__> i have on board sound and geforce nvidia video card and seems like thats not a good combo when playing videos in realplayer coz video is jerky and progresses only after 10 or so second intervals, making it look like slide show rather than video file..... because when sometime sound fails to function in realplayer video plays just fine....any remedies for this problem?
[08:48] <d0zer> hello.. can someone tell me how to boot into non-graphical mode ?
[08:49] <tahsin> how do i create two administrative user account ?
[08:50] <DaSkreech> david_: the walkthrough for 6.10 and earlier shoudl work
[08:50] <david_> DaSkreech: ty again
[08:50] <julius> whenever i shutdown i get told about15 applications have crashed
[08:51] <DaSkreech> david_: jsut sawp out adept for any mention of synaptic :)
[08:51] <julius> and sometimes when i close kconsole it tells me they ahve crashed aswell -.-
[08:51] <DaSkreech> malik__: try the helix player
[08:51] <tahsin> DaSkreech: how do i change the window title colour ?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> d0zer: you don't want X to start when the computer starts up?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> tahsin: create a new users and add them to the admin group
[08:52] <DaSkreech> julius: and they didn't?
[08:52] <tahsin> DaSkreech: how do i add them to the admin group ?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> julius: wait you mean apport?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> !groups
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <DaSkreech> tahsin: look in System settings
[08:52] <vecina> I cant install realplayer :( it says im missing : GTK+ 2.0 (libgtk-x11-2.0.so)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> vecina: how are you installing it?
[08:53] <d0zer> DaSkreech: i need to boot into it to install some nvidia drivers
[08:53] <d0zer> Dont know hot to get out there
[08:53] <vecina> DaSkreech: from the terminal.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> d0zer: Oh just kill X
[08:53] <vecina> DaSkreech: i dled it off the site
[08:53] <vecina> i hope being 64 bit isnt a problem
[08:55] <DaSkreech> d0zer: press alt+ctrl+F1 then when you want to get back here press alt+ctrl+F7
[08:55] <malik__> DaSkreech: both behave in same fashion, do u think that i shud change my sound? or rather add a sound blaster or sound card instead of on-board sound?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> vecina: hmm well then install GTK libs then
[08:55] <DaSkreech> malik__: what speed is your computer ?
[08:55] <vecina> DaSkreech: They are installed u.u
[08:55] <d0zer> DaSkreech: i have tried that but it tells me im still running the ddisplay manager.. when i try to kill it it respawns
[08:55] <DaSkreech> vecina: maybe you need to set a libpath
[08:55] <DaSkreech> d0zer: oh ok then type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:55] <omgzoras> the kubuntu installer is brain dead :|
[08:55] <malik__> DaSkreech: i have p4 3.0Ghz 1Gig ddr ram 64mb nvidia gforce and gigabit motherboard with on board sound
[08:55] <vecina> DaSkreech: a what
[08:55] <omgzoras> apparently you HAVE to format the partitions for whatever odd reason
[08:56] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: some partitions
[08:56] <omgzoras> the important ones
[08:56] <DaSkreech> notably / and swap
[08:56] <omgzoras> i used ubuntu to create my partitions the first time
[08:56] <omgzoras> so obviously /home was in /
[08:56] <rathel_> I've added a network folder to my fstab, and I can't write to it, I have dmask=777,fmask=777 in the options part, what else do I need?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: may I suggest a /home partition
[08:57] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: duly noted and added but why is there such a limitation?
[08:57] <omgzoras> especially when ubuntu doesn't create a /home by default
[08:58] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it does create a /home just not a /home partition
[08:58] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: i know that
[08:59] <omgzoras> so the devs should also know that insisting for no particular reason on formatting / is stupid because now everyone has to run around backing all of /home up
[09:02] <DaSkreech> well if you are installing a new operating system I think it would only make sense that the user should have some care with his data
[09:02] <DaSkreech>  there is no assurance that the installation of any OS goes peachy keen
[09:02] <omgzoras> linux is about options :|
[09:02] <omgzoras> anyway
[09:03] <DaSkreech> MacOS warns about that and they have the stack locked top to bottom
[09:03] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: sorry if you lost anything
[09:03] <omgzoras> i'm still in install cd =)
[09:04] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ah. what are you trying to do may I ask?
[09:05] <omgzoras> trying to remove the check and the code that formats the partition
[09:05] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: not right now overall
[09:05] <DaSkreech> install kubuntu or upgrade or what?
[09:05] <omgzoras> i had a 5.10 ubuntu i wanted to move to kubuntu
[09:05] <DaSkreech> a 5.10 kubuntu?
[09:06] <omgzoras> ubuntu
[09:06] <omgzoras> to ubuntu feisty
[09:06] <omgzoras> erm.. kubuntu feisty
[09:06] <omgzoras> =)
[09:06] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: yeah that would warrant a backup
[09:06] <pawitp> omgzoras: A lot of work that would've been easier with a full reinstall
[09:07] <DaSkreech> how big is your home folder?
[09:07] <david_> DaSkreech: Hi again... just to let u know i tried installing the restricted-manager... it wasn't big and ran it with kdesu.. went through the motions and it worked a treat
[09:07] <omgzoras> 100 G
[09:07] <DaSkreech> pawitp: he is doing a full reinstall
[09:07] <DaSkreech> pawitp: but that would format his /home
[09:07] <pawitp> DaSkreech: I didn't see that sry
[09:07] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: and you don't have a spare hard drive with that much free space?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> david_: thumbs up mate
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: There is a way, but there are some risk
[09:08] <omgzoras> i only have a usb 1.1 on this machine and an ext drive with 400G free. transferring 100G = 1 full day  which is why i'm irritated by the forced formatting
[09:08] <david_> DaSkreech: it's a wonder y they haven't put it into the official kubuntu lists
[09:08] <omgzoras> pawtip oh?
[09:08] <david_> ttfn
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: I wonder why everyone misspell my name :P
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: Use a live cd
[09:09] <DaSkreech> pawitp: already there :)
[09:09] <omgzoras> i'm using the kubuntu install/live cd right now =)
[09:09] <vecina> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[09:09] <vecina> That allows realplayer to install
[09:09] <pawitp> omgzoras: Delete everything in the partition except the home folder
[09:09] <omgzoras> pawtip did that too
[09:09] <DaSkreech> vecina: ok :)
[09:09] <omgzoras> then resize i suppose? :|
[09:09] <pawitp> omgzoras: yep
[09:09] <vecina> XD hoorah
[09:10] <omgzoras> i'd rather patch this installer if it's all in python
[09:10] <omgzoras> =)
[09:10] <DaSkreech> malik__: what are you using to play the real media?
[09:10] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it is
[09:10] <malik__> where do i find options for turning on and off  the previews of files?
[09:11] <malik__> DaSkreech: real media files, for other types i dont bother with realplayer coz i dont like it
[09:11] <DaSkreech> malik__: reasonable
[09:12] <pawitp> s/that/which
[09:17] <omgzoras> w000t i did it =)
[09:18] <danielw> anyone know why i have no /dev/input/js# mapped when i have installed the xpad module and it seems to have picked up the usb xbox 360 controller?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> The Gonzo happy dance?
[09:19] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: but of course =D
[09:19] <subliminal727> hey everyone, anyone feel like answering a few questions about switching from gnome to kde in feisty?
[09:19] <omgzoras> 6 lines of crud that nearly cost me a whole day smacked down !
[09:19] <omgzoras> mwahaha
[09:19] <omgzoras> subliminal727: hope it goes well =)
[09:19] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: Not really but you are free to ask them anyway :)
[09:21] <danielw> anyone had any problems with a xbox360 controller(usb) and feisty?
[09:21] <subliminal727> well i was just wondering if installing the kubuntu package is all i have to do...and if there is an easy way to switch back and forth
[09:21] <d0zer> anyone in here have experience with installing nvidia graphics drivers? Ive installed the drivers but it wont detect any higher resolution than 640x480
[09:21] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: kubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <kutty> is there full package availabel
[09:21] <DaSkreech> and when you login click on the sessions button before and choose gnome or KDE
[09:21] <subliminal727> sweet
[09:22] <DaSkreech> kutty: Full?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> danielw: don't think I've ever seen anyone ask that
[09:22] <DaSkreech> d0zer: might just need to redo your Xorg.conf
[09:23] <danielw> DaSkreech: As in no one has had problems? or no one uses an xbox 360 controller with linux? :)
[09:23] <subliminal727> that was some rapid fire support there skreech
[09:23] <vista> how do i change the panel font colour ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> danielw: which ever one is
[09:23] <d0zer> DaSkreech: hmm adding the resolution directly into the cfg ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> true
[09:24] <feelow> linux is cool
[09:24] <maumo> hi
[09:24] <DaSkreech> d0zer: if you like. I'd just reconfigure it
[09:24] <omgzoras> linux is for posers
[09:24] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[09:24] <vista> DaSkreech: how do i change the panel font colour ?
[09:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <subliminal727> vista http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/
[09:24] <omgzoras> hurd is cool >:)
[09:24] <DaSkreech> vista: right click and configure would be my guess
[09:25] <vista> subliminal72
[09:25] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: :-)
[09:25] <julius> grr
[09:25] <subliminal727> i had to make mine white so i could make my panel black
[09:25] <vista> subliminal72: yes i want to do the same thing
[09:26] <vista> subliminal72: how do i do that ?
[09:26] <subliminal727> that link
[09:26] <subliminal727> http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/
[09:27] <Jucato> vista: if you upgraded to KDE 3.5.7 on Feisty, you can now do that in the Taskbar configuration dialog
[09:27] <Jucato> only KDE 3.5.7 has this new feature
[09:27] <subliminal727> woops i put the gnome link there
[09:27] <subliminal727> i shouldn't try to help people
[09:28] <omgzoras> you can just horse around with me sub
[09:28] <vista> subliminal72: u got the kde link ?
[09:28] <subliminal727> haha
[09:28] <feelow> i am freash haha
[09:29] <DaSkreech> hi Ju
[09:29] <DaSkreech> cato
[09:29] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[09:29] <subliminal727> damnit i suck at tag
[09:29] <subliminal727> haha
[09:29] <vista> jucato: how do i do it on edgy ?
 only KDE 3.5.7 has this new feature
[09:30] <danielw> DaSkreech: I found out why, the xpad i had didnt support xbox360, theres a modified xpad version on the unbuntuforums that works with it. Just incase anyone else asks this question :)
[09:31] <Jucato> on Edgy? you can change the color of the Button Text in System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors. that's the only way. (The taskbar, by default, uses the button colors)
[09:31] <sivaji> hi Jucato
[09:31] <omgzoras> oh yea in case anyone else asks about installing feisty without formatting tell them to modify kde.ui  in /usr/lib/ubiquity/frontend
[09:31] <subliminal727> somebody convince me to delete my vista partition
[09:31] <DaSkreech> danielw: so it's not a xbox360 Pad?
[09:31] <Jucato> hi sivaji
[09:31] <feelow> oh my god
[09:32] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ha ha neat :)
[09:32] <danielw> DaSkreech: It is a xbox360 pad
[09:32] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: delete it :)
[09:32] <subliminal727> ok
[09:32] <sivaji> feelow ?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> danielw: umm ok so why doesn't it work?
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[09:32] <feelow> i am new
[09:32] <danielw> DaSkreech: It does now.. but the xpad that came with feisty didnt work, i had to get a modified version from the ubuntuforums
[09:32] <omgzoras> i can't wait to get yakuake installed
[09:33] <sivaji> feelow ok fine
[09:33] <feelow> thanks
[09:33] <DaSkreech> danielw: ah ok :) can you bug that for me?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it's like 400k doesn't take that long
[09:33] <omgzoras> i   know =D 10% more before the installer finishes and i can reboot w000t
[09:34] <subliminal727> dude skreech you are an animal
[09:34] <omgzoras> yakuake is such an awesome app i use it at work all the time
[09:34] <danielw> DaSkreech: How do i 'bug' it? is there an app or website?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: tried the new one ?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !bug
[09:35] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:35] <sivaji> feelow i think this will be useful for u "http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html" , "http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty"
[09:35] <omgzoras> there's a new yakuake?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: Yeah on KDE-look
[09:35] <omgzoras> oh yea i heard about that one
[09:35] <subliminal727> whats yakuake?
[09:35] <danielw> DaSkreech: thx, i'll log it
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !yakuake
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <omgzoras> the thread made it look like he was just ripping off the name or something
[09:35] <DaSkreech> dumb bot
[09:36] <omgzoras> and his version is buggy
[09:36] <DaSkreech> !info yakuake
[09:36] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[09:36] <subliminal727> oh hah
[09:36] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: this is the one with the multiple viewports right?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: yup
[09:37] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: have you tried it ?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: Well duh  :)
[09:37] <danielw> DaSkreech: Nevermind, its actually already logged
[09:37] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: does it work well? o_O
[09:37] <omgzoras> it would be pretty sweet to watch logs
[09:37] <DaSkreech> danielw: cool thanks
[09:38] <sivaji> DaSkreech yakuake is under construction
[09:38] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ctrl+shift+T or Ctrl+shift+L
[09:38] <DaSkreech> then Ctrl+shift+up or down to switch tween them
[09:38] <r4ge> damn, kde is pretty slick these days :)
[09:38] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: nice
[09:39] <omgzoras> kde always kicked ass
[09:39] <subliminal727> gnome! woooooooo! yea!
[09:39] <subliminal727> kidding, don't shoot me
[09:39] <omgzoras> it just needs some assistance from the gnome HIG ppl so that they can hide options for a basic setting screen
[09:39] <r4ge> its getting there.
[09:40] <subliminal727> hey anyone in here used xubuntu...is it worth it?
[09:40] <omgzoras> no
[09:40] <omgzoras> xfce sucks
[09:41] <r4ge> what sucks about xfce?
[09:41] <subliminal727> i've never even looked at screens for it
[09:41] <omgzoras> it's a resource hog
[09:41] <omgzoras> kde is much more responsive than xfce =)
[09:41] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: they have screenies of it on the xubuntu site
[09:42] <subliminal727> cool
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: have you ever fielded a ICS question ?
[09:42] <omgzoras> ppl at work used to be freebsd xfce fans till i showed up with the kubuntu!
[09:43] <sivaji> is there any risk in installing YaKuake
[09:43] <omgzoras> i've been here 4 months everyone's switched to kubuntu.. and it has the vista guy here jealous ;)
[09:43] <DaSkreech> sivaji: nope
[09:43] <subliminal727> theres a such thing as a vista guy?
[09:43] <subliminal727> weird
[09:44] <subliminal727> i work in tech support at a major isp and i dont think theres any of that going around there
[09:44] <omgzoras> he's in marketing
[09:44] <subliminal727> ahhhh
[09:44] <subliminal727> i see
[09:44] <omgzoras> he hates it when his pc reboots at night for the updates
[09:44] <pawitp> Can anyone help me with yakuake going to my second screen
[09:44] <omgzoras> and then  kills his other sessions
[09:44] <subliminal727> my vista pc reboots whenever it feels like it
[09:44] <omgzoras> yep that's the complaint it seems like
[09:44] <subliminal727> only i don't think they call it rebooting
[09:45] <DaSkreech> pawitp: what?
[09:45] <omgzoras> w00t ok the installation is over bbiab...
[09:45] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: nope they redefined it
[09:45] <omgzoras> which server is this?
[09:45] <omgzoras> i just hit konversation and i got logged in here XD
[09:45] <pawitp> DaSkreech: yakuake starts on the right size of my screen which is my television
[09:45] <omgzoras> oh freenode
[09:45] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: then just do that again :)
[09:45] <subliminal727> its some sort of security feature...something about your monitor turning blue that prevents hackers from stealing your files
[09:46] <pawitp> DaSkreech: Nvidia twinview thingy
[09:46] <omgzoras> i'll be back.. i'll be named mordaunt
[09:46] <omgzoras> later
[09:46] <DaSkreech> pawitp: ah. umm move it back? I have no idea how tha works
[09:47] <Jjaannuuss> how to get mp3 support?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | Jjaannuuss
[09:47] <ubotu> Jjaannuuss: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:47] <pawitp> DaSkreech: It's not a movable window :(
[09:47] <DaSkreech> pawitp: hmm
[09:47] <sivaji> Jjaannuuss i had same auto rebooting problem but that is because of smps
[09:48] <sivaji> Jjaannuuss sorry
[09:48] <sivaji> subliminal727
[09:49] <subliminal727> man i dual booted vista and ubuntu when i first got this laptop and i didn't realize how vistas bootloader was different from xp
[09:49] <subliminal727> it screwed vista up so bad
[09:50] <pawitp> I remembered RSOD
[09:51] <pawitp> and that vista will refuse to install if the partition i'm not installing to is an active partition
[09:51] <subliminal727> yeah...plus the bootloader has to be on the master boot record instead
[09:51] <subliminal727> which grub obviously overwrites
[09:51] <DaSkreech> pawitp: that ought to stop you installing it twice on the same machine :)
[09:52] <pawitp> DaSkreech: I call it inconvinient when there is no setting to make it active in "Advanced option"
[09:52] <subliminal727> speaking of that when i went to reinstall it, it wouldn't take my oem key, vista made me call ms to activate the crap
[09:54] <mordaunt> ahh i'm back
[09:54] <subliminal727> let it be known
[09:55] <mordaunt> so what's the word on kubuntu and automatix?
[09:55] <mordaunt> they play well in the sandbox together?
[09:55] <ardchoille> !automatix
[09:56] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:56] <subliminal727> yeah automatix pissed me off
[09:56] <mordaunt> what did it do?
[09:57] <ardchoille> mordaunt: You're better off learning how to maintain your system yourself, rather than relying on some third-party script, because if something breaks, it's easier to fix it yourself or to get help.
[09:58] <subliminal727> none of the stuff it installed was showing up as installed on my computer in synaptic.  and it wouldn't uninstall through automatix
[09:58] <DaSkreech> mordaunt: Note this means that youw ill probably hose your system at least once :)
[09:58] <DaSkreech> but you WILL be smarter at the end of the day
[09:58] <DaSkreech>  Like knowing to make a /home partition from day one :)
[09:58] <subliminal727> most of the stuff it does isn't that hard to do
[09:59] <subliminal727> it was somewhat helpful on my brothers laptop w/ ndiswrapper though. we installed his broadcom wireless adapter manually, then when he reinstalled ubuntu he used that and it worked like a charm
[09:59] <mordaunt> i've always used it just to get the codecs, flash and java going in a hurry
[09:59] <ardchoille> I never understood why people use those things to install software when doing it manually is faster and easier.
[10:00] <pawitp> Why does yakuake love my TV Screen so much?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: safer you forgot safer
[10:00] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Indeed
[10:03] <mordaunt> so where DOES one go for the codecs flash and such ?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> !flash
[10:03] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:03] <ardchoille> !codecs
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <DaSkreech> tag team!
[10:03] <ardchoille> :)
[10:03] <mordaunt> =D
[10:03] <mordaunt> ah that's where it is
[10:03] <mordaunt> i still have to install firefox to get my bookmarks back XD
[10:04] <DaSkreech> or just import it
[10:04] <ardchoille> mordaunt: Why? Firefox bookmarks are set in a plain html file. Do you still have that file?
[10:04] <mordaunt> it's here some place
[10:04] <DaSkreech> !java | Might as well since mordaunt is going to ask sooner or later.
[10:04] <ubotu> Might as well since mordaunt is going to ask sooner or later.: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:04] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: hahaha
[10:05] <ardchoille> I've never used java or flash
[10:05] <mordaunt> you haven't experienced the awesome of youtube
[10:05] <subliminal727> was that sarcasm?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Coffee is great!
[10:05] <pawitp> Thailand blocks youtube
[10:05] <subliminal727> jerks
[10:06] <subliminal727> why?
[10:06] <pawitp> Because someone uploaded a funny video of Thailand's king ages ago
[10:06] <subliminal727> wow
[10:06] <ardchoille> oppression
[10:07] <pawitp> and the video is down now but it won't be unblocked
[10:08] <pawitp> and internet is slow as hell since the ISP's transparent proxy server must go through a huge list of blocked site
[10:08] <sivaji> is it possible to have virtual cd drive in kubuntu
[10:08] <DaSkreech> sivaji: why bother?
[10:08] <subliminal727> thats crazy
[10:08] <pawitp> sivaji: Not sure, I just alway loop-mounted it
[10:08] <DaSkreech> sivaji: Just mount the image
[10:08] <pawitp> and /dev/loop* may as well be the virtual drive
[10:08] <sivaji> how to mount a image
[10:09] <ardchoille> !mount
[10:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:09] <pawitp> I'd like to know how to do it easily in GUI
[10:09] <ardchoille> Hmm.. that isn't what I thought it would be
[10:09] <pawitp> I alway used the command line to do so
[10:09] <mordaunt> ah.. 4 am.. the song of birds in the air...
[10:09] <mordaunt> time for bed o_O
[10:09] <DaSkreech> 3 am here
[10:09] <mordaunt> heh
[10:10] <mordaunt> so is anyone going to see the fantastic douchebags?
[10:10] <ardchoille> mordaunt: 4am.. time for bed? No, you had your chance.. muffed it.
[10:10] <mordaunt> lol yea
[10:10] <sivaji> pawitp what is that loop mounted
[10:11] <sivaji> pawitp
[10:11] <sivaji> !DiskMounter
[10:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:11] <pawitp> sivaji: I don't know if there is a gui way to do it but
[10:12] <pawitp> sivaji: mount -o loop,users [path to iso]  /mnt
[10:12] <pawitp> and umount /mnt when finished
[10:12] <sivaji> pawitp ok
[10:12] <r4ge> write a bash script and give it an icon.
[10:12] <r4ge> ;)
[10:13] <pawitp> I want something like how winrar handles iso
[10:13] <DaSkreech> pawitp: there is it's on KDE-look
[10:14] <pawitp> kde-look!?
[10:14] <r4ge> apt-cache search iso mount
[10:14] <pawitp> DaSkreech: What's the name?
[10:15] <DaSkreech> Yeah some woman made a right click mount iso/bin/nrg at /path/to/folder hack for Konqui
[10:15] <ardchoille> There is a kde app that sits in the systray and can mount/umount stuff, it's called kwikdisk and I think it's part of kdeutils
[10:16] <subliminal727> well i think im going to install kde now. gnight all
[10:16] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I think that would be in the "service menus" section of kde-look
[10:18] <ardchoille> I was wrong, it's kdf. Install kdf and you'll get kwikdisk.. a tray app that lets you graphically mount/unmount things.
[10:19] <sivaji> pawitp DaSkreech ya it works fine thank u
[10:20] <sivaji> jucato u r a ops right
[10:21] <Jucato> sivaji: yes
[10:21] <eagles0513875> fsck was forced to run at startup but when its almost finished running it dies with a signal 3 what does taht mean
[10:21] <pawitp> ardchoille: I'd rather not have another app in my already busy tray
[10:21] <eagles0513875> also how can i fix it
[10:22] <sivaji> but konverstaion status bar show 0 ops
[10:22] <sivaji> Jucato
[10:22] <Jucato> sivaji: yes. we don't op unless necessary
[10:22] <ardchoille> pawitp: Ah, yeah, the tray can get right busy quick.
[10:23] <Jucato> pawitp: you can run kwikdisk w/o starting up kdf. but kdf still needs to be installed
[10:23] <Jucato> kwikdisk is part of kdf
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving, hi
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving, hi
[10:23] <sivaji> Jucato ho
[10:23] <pawitp> Isn't it kwikdisk that puts an icon in the try?
[10:23] <DaSkreech> well off to bed
[10:23] <pawitp> *tray
[10:23] <Jucato> pawitp: er... which ever of the two ehehe
[10:24] <dhq>  how do i get java jdk woring in kubuntu
[10:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: Do you know of any way to start up kwikdisk without it going to the tray?
[10:24] <Jucato> ardchoille: Alt+F2, kwikdisk?
[10:24] <Jucato> dhq: install sun-java6-jdk ?
[10:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: It goes directly to the tray :)
[10:24] <eagles0513875> what does it mean when fsck gives a signal 3
[10:25] <ardchoille> Jucato: I think it's a tray-only app
[10:25] <Jucato> ardchoille: sorry. I was thinking of kdf
[10:25] <ardchoille> Ah, yeah
[10:25] <Jucato> I get the two confused
[10:25] <ardchoille> ME too
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Night!
[10:25] <ardchoille> nn DaSkreech
[10:27] <eagles0513875> i need urgent help if anyone isnt busy
[10:27] <pawitp> I'm not
[10:27] <eagles0513875> pawitp: do u have any idea what it means when fsck terminates with a signal 3
[10:27] <pawitp> 3     SIGQUIT      create core image    quit program
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato, i have the jdk-6u1-linux-i586.bin wat to do with it
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato, i did sudo ./jdk-6u1-linux-i586.bin
[10:28] <pawitp> Core dumped then
[10:28] <Jucato> you'd be better off installing from the repos
[10:28] <eagles0513875> how can i fix it im running of the live cd
[10:28] <eagles0513875> it just keeps terminating and restarting itself
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato,well i am on a 5kb connection
[10:29] <pawitp> SIGQUIT is a user-activated signal so, I don't know
[10:29] <Jucato> !java
[10:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:29] <Jucato> dhq: try that page ^^^^^
[10:29] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can get fsck to finish its check and not keep dumping
[10:30] <dhq> Jucato, let me see
[10:31] <sivaji> eagles0513875 have u tried #ubuntu
[10:31] <eagles0513875> im running kubuntu
[10:31] <eagles0513875> but ill try in there
[10:37] <epimeth> gmorning all!
[10:41] <heroin> can i un-delete stuff i removed in konqeuror?
[10:42] <ardchoille> heroin: If you deleted it, no. If you moved it to the trash, yes
[10:42] <heroin> ardchoille: i did the move to trash.. i hope
[10:43] <heroin> ardchoille: where shall i be able to find the trash?
[10:43] <ardchoille> in konq, type:  trash:/
[10:50] <Jucato> (although to some people, delete and move to trash are one and the same, because they are both performed by the "Delete" key :P)
[10:51] <ardchoille> well, the delete key moves to the trash and shift+delete actually deletes. But, Jucato has a good point.
[10:52] <Jucato> maybe we should start calling Shift+Del another thing... like "Destroy"? hehehe
[10:53] <ardchoille> haha
[10:53] <ardchoille> Jucato: Where is the "trash folder?
[10:53] <llutz> Jucato: they better change "Delete" into "move to trash"
[10:54] <Jucato> llutz: that's actually the real "name" of the action... but it doesn't help when your key is still named "Delete" right? :)
[10:54] <llutz> Jucato: spread stickers with ubuntu-cd :)
[10:54] <Jucato> ardchoille: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[10:55] <Jucato> what? now we're going to call the Delete key the Ubuntu key? kinda ironic :)
[10:56] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, yeah. I never used trash beofre, perhaps I should start.
[10:56] <Jucato> I rarely do.. I usually keep or destroy... almost never in between...*almost*
[10:56] <ardchoille> Same
[10:57] <llutz> "trash" is a stupid thing. makes people deleting without thinking and drive them into trouble, at least when using the console...
[10:58] <ardchoille> in cli, rm is the only thing I know, so the files are actually gone
[10:58] <ardchoille> I never heard of this "trash" thing until I got into a gui
[10:58] <llutz> ardchoille: yes, but most noobs still think: a fine, i can recall it from trash
[10:59] <Jucato> never heard of undelete in MS-DOS? O.o
[10:59] <ardchoille> llutz: Ah, fair point that
[10:59] <Jucato> llutz: actually a Trash for the CLI is filesystem dependent..
[10:59] <Jucato> for example ext3 doesn't have one, but ext2 can, iirc
[10:59] <llutz> Jucato: sure but it's difficult
[11:00] <ardchoille> I haven't used ms-dos since 1984
[11:00] <Jucato> depends on the filesystem really
[11:00] <vista> how do i add a shortcut to run command in terminal on my desktop ?
[11:02] <sivaji_> vista rephrase that
[11:02] <vista> i want a shortcut on my desktop
[11:02] <vista> so that when i click it
[11:02] <ardchoille> Sounds like he wants a desktop shortcut that launches the ALT+F2 dialog
[11:02] <vista> it will run wvdial in terminal
[11:02] <yknott> vista: that is one of the properties of the shortcut (.desktop); make it first, then select properties, then check 'run in terminal window'
[11:03] <Jucato> vista: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application
[11:03] <sivaji_> drag and drop
[11:03] <Jucato> then in the Application tab, click on the Advanced Options button
[11:03] <Jucato> sivaji_: that will not launch it in a terminal
[11:03] <vista> ya found it jucato thanks
[11:04] <vista> jucato: do i type the command in the terminal option ?
[11:04] <llutz> vista: why wvdial, doesn't work kppp work for you?
[11:04] <Jucato> no need. it will launch the default terminal (Konsole)
[11:04] <vista> i dont knw but my kppp isnt working
[11:04] <vista> whenever i click kpp it doesnt launch
[11:05] <vista> dont knw whats wrong
[11:05] <llutz> vista: try opening it in a console, it might give you some errors
[11:05] <ardchoille> vista: Try running kppp in a term and see if there's any error output
[11:05] <ardchoille> :P
[11:05] <llutz> <- 1st :)
[11:06] <vista> ardchoille : how do i run kppp in a term ?
[11:07] <ardchoille> type: kppp
[11:07] <vista> in terminal or run ?
[11:07] <ardchoille> vista: Most apps will run in a term simply by launching their filename
[11:08] <ardchoille> vista: In this case, in a terminal (konsole is good) cuz you won't get any error output in alt+f2
[11:08] <vista> ardchoille : im not the main user of this linux
[11:08] <vista> im on a differnt user
[11:08] <vista> is that a reason ?
[11:08] <vista> but im in the admin group
[11:08] <ardchoille> vista: Possibly, but I have never used kppp so I don't know if it needs sudo
[11:09] <vista> in terminal i typed kpp it said permission denied
[11:09] <ardchoille> IF you're in the admin grp, then it shouldn't matter
[11:09] <vista> it opened when i tried sudo
[11:09] <vista> so how do i eleminate this sudo
[11:09] <ardchoille> kppp is a graphical app, never use sudo with graphical apps, you need to use kdesu
[11:09] <llutz> vista: you'll have to be in group dialout aswell (iirc)
[11:09] <ardchoille> !kdesu | vista
[11:09] <ubotu> vista: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:09] <vista> ah let me try that
[11:11] <ardchoille> vista: Now that you have used sudo with a gui app, open a term and run: ls -la ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[11:11] <ardchoille> Make sure root doesn't own either of those files.
[11:12] <vista> llutz: i cant eidt group from this user account:(
[11:12] <vista> edit**
[11:12] <llutz> vista: you should  if you are member of admin :)
[11:13] <vista> ardchoille : i did that
[11:13] <vista> 
[11:13] <vista> vista@tahsin-desktop:~$ ls -la ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[11:13] <vista> -rw------- 1 vista vista 205 2007-06-17 14:49 /home/vista/.ICEauthority
[11:13] <vista> -rw------- 1 vista vista 108 2007-06-17 14:49 /home/vista/.Xauthority
[11:13] <vista> vista@tahsin-desktop:~$
[11:13] <ardchoille> vista: Ok, you're fine :)
[11:13] <vista> llutz: its not prompting the password it just says loading... :s
[11:13] <ardchoille> Sometimes using sudo with a gui app can cause the ownership of those files to switch to root, which will prevent you from logging back in later.
[11:14] <vista> i c
[11:14] <vista> llutz: on what groups do i need to be if i want full access of this pc ?
[11:14] <vista> llutz: admin and..  ?
[11:15] <llutz> vista: admin should be fine, it enables you to use sudo
[11:15] <vista> llutz: any other groups ?
[11:15] <vista> llutz: like u said dial something
[11:15] <vista> dialout
[11:15] <llutz> vista: if i recall reight, kpp needs dialout + dip
[11:16] <vista> okay thanks
[11:17] <vista> llutz: but isnt it prompting password when i tried to edit the user management in administration mode ?
[11:17] <vista> llutz: just can see a loading page
[11:17] <crazy_bus> I've got a 800mb file I want to send to another computer in the same house.  The computer is connected to a wireless router.  Is there anyway to send the file with the router?
[11:18] <r4ge> antone tried alien arena yet? :)
[11:18] <vista> whats alien arena ?
[11:18] <llutz> vista: it's prompting your user-password
[11:18] <r4ge> http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=9304
[11:18] <vista> can someone name some cool games for linux
[11:19] <yknott> no but openarena runs too slow for me through flgrx
[11:19] <vista> llutz: not yet its been 5min and it prompted nothing
[11:19] <llutz> vista: that's odd
[11:19] <vista> i knw
[11:19] <vista> llutz: what may be the problem
[11:20] <vista> games for linux ?
[11:21] <ardchoille> vista: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[11:21] <ardchoille> You'll be there a while ;)
[11:21] <vista> lol let me try
[11:23] <r4ge> ack, 10kb/s :<
[11:23] <ardchoille> eeewwww
[11:23] <r4ge> anything under 200kb/sec is unacceptable these days.
[11:24] <sivaji_> how to  check my ram size
[11:24] <ardchoille> True, DSL has spoiled us
[11:24] <vista> is that tur download speed ?
[11:24] <ardchoille> sivaji_: free
[11:24] <llutz> sivaji_: free -m
[11:25] <vista> my one is 18KB/s
[11:25] <vista> im using EDGE
[11:26] <vista> using my phone as modem
[11:26] <sivaji_> vista use prozilla u can utilize max bandwidth
[11:26] <sivaji_> !prozilla
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <sivaji_> !proz
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <r4ge> prozilla isnt in the repo
[11:27] <naught101> anyone know why, after installing a LAMP setup on a standard kubuntu feisty setup, http://127.0.0.1 doesn't work/
[11:27] <naught101> ?
[11:27] <vista> sivaji_ where do i get it
[11:27] <sivaji_> yes but can install it
[11:27] <sivaji_> google
[11:28] <yknott> naught101: check that apache started;
[11:28] <eagles0513875> sivaji im on the live cd but for some reason regardless what i do im always getting that exit 3 regardless what i do
[11:28] <vista> is it worth it ?
[11:28] <vista> sivaji_ : is it worth it
[11:28] <sivaji_> ya
[11:29] <vista> let me try
[11:29] <sivaji_> 100% bandwidth
[11:29] <vista> sivaji_ : it says cant find a debain package
[11:29] <sivaji_> i will give u that
[11:29] <r4ge> http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozgui
[11:30] <eagles0513875> sivaji_: m on the live cd but for some reason regardless what i do im always getting that exit 3 regardless what i do when i run fsck at start up
[11:30] <vista> thanks
[11:30] <naught101> yknott: no, but when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" I get nothing, no start message, no error
[11:30] <vista> sivaji_ : how do i accept it ?
[11:31] <yknott> naught101: you could check the logs /var/log/apache2
[11:31] <sivaji_> vista DCCstatus->acceopt button
[11:31] <naught101> true
[11:31] <sivaji_> vista left bottom
[11:31] <yknott> or ps -A | grep apache
[11:31] <vista> sivaji_ : got it
[11:32] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 i too had that problem but somehow i could mange that ,
[11:32] <vista> sivaji_ : download failed :(
[11:32] <eagles0513875> manage what sivaji_
[11:33] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 i just ran fsck i become alright i didnt get any error
[11:33] <vista> sivaji_ :can you please send it again
[11:34] <naught101> yknott: nothing. apache (1.3 I assume is also installed... don't know why. I'd have thought they were mutually exclusive?)
[11:34] <eagles0513875> i keep getting the error
[11:34] <eagles0513875> its like in an infinite loop
[11:34] <naught101> wow that ")" move to the end, all by itself
[11:34] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 have u tried recovery mode
[11:34] <eagles0513875> yes same thing
[11:35] <sivaji_> vista what u r not receiving that
[11:35] <vista> sivaji_ : no it said download failed
[11:35] <eagles0513875> from some reason i cant resize the partition was goign to create a new install and get all my stuff off there then repartitiona and reinstall it on the full partition i have it on
[11:36] <yknott> naught101: not sure where the log for that one is
[11:36] <eagles0513875> i think i might have solved the problem
[11:37] <yknott> naught101: did you see anything with ps -A | grep apache
[11:37] <naught101> yknott: no,nothing.
[11:37] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 try e2fsck
[11:37] <naught101> maybe I should just purge it all, adn reinstall it
[11:38] <sivaji_> !shipit
[11:38] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[11:39] <yknott> there should be ubuntu docs for getting lamp set up, check the website to walk you through it  perhaps http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server.html
[11:39] <yknott> naught101: ah nevermind, that was for server
[11:39] <naught101> ok, I'll see what I can do. cheers, yknott
[11:39] <sivaji_> is kubuntu supports multiprocessor system ?
[11:40] <naught101> ...? apache IS a server?
[11:40] <r4ge> smp
[11:40] <pawitp> sivaji_: Yes
[11:40] <yknott> naught101: no i meant for ubuntu server, there is an option during install for "LAMP"
[11:40] <naught101> yknott: ahh, the walkthough is for the LAMP CD.. yeah, useless
[11:41] <yknott> naught101: i was thinking at help.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <yknott> naught101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMP
[11:42] <yknott> naught101: but if you have not touched the config of apache, then you are probably getting the unresolved hostname error   "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName"
[11:43] <yknott> naught101: so you could edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to set that,
[11:46] <naught101> yknott: ok, will do, then I'll see what happens
[11:54] <sa> hi everyone
[11:55] <sa> i am trying to sync my palm pilot with the application "kpilot"
[11:56] <sa> the kpilot faq says that my palm pilot works great in Debian but is unstable in kernel 2.6 and kde 3.4.3
[11:56] <sa> what is debian, kernel and kde?
[11:56] <waylandbill_> draik: you can always use the program mimms
[11:57] <sa> what exaclty is debian, kernel and kde?
[11:57] <pawitp> sa: Debian is a linux distrobution that ubuntu is based on
[11:58] <_4strO> sa: google is your friend
[11:58] <pawitp> sa: Kernel is the core of linux
[11:58] <sa> pawitp: ok
[11:58] <epimeth> _4strO: what up amigo?
[11:58] <sa> pawitp: Thanks alot
[11:58] <_4strO> yop
[11:58] <pawitp> sa: KDE is the desktop environment that kubuntu uses
[11:58] <sa> _4strO: I better like being friends with people in #kubuntu :)
[11:59] <sa> pawitp: thank you
[11:59] <_4strO> sa: yep but we're not wikipedia :p
[11:59] <epimeth> sa: the kernel is the code that lies at the heart of an operating system
[12:00] <sa> _4strO: I thought this channel was for getting and giving help. correct me if I am wrong
[12:00] <sa> epimeth: thank you
[12:00] <_4strO> sa: you're right
[12:00] <epimeth> sa: it is, but people tend to be more willing to help those that at least try to help themselves
[12:01] <sa> epimeth: cool :)
[12:01] <llutz> sa: what you mean is: "help me, i'm too lazy" and that#s not the intention of support-chans
[12:02] <sa> llutz: no buddy, i tried to look up debian on google but as i am a linux noob i needed a more simple explanation
[12:02] <epimeth> sa: there are plenty of people who need help here, and those that make more of an effort to understand their problem will get more help because we have to spend less time explaining ourselves.  and therefore can resolve problems quickly.  when people take the lazy approach, *we* have to explain more and therefore less people get helped
[12:02] <_4strO> that's what i would say llutz
[12:03] <ina> Hello! Can someone tell me how I kqann install a amarok design?
[12:03] <pawitp> kqann -> can?
[12:03] <ina> downloadded some and tell amarok to install them but still no changes
[12:03] <sa> epimeth: cool, gotcha
[12:05] <_4strO> ina did you go in the amarok configuration ?
[12:05] <sivaji> when i run google earth xorg restarts y
[12:05] <ina> _4strO: Yes I did.
[12:07] <_4strO> ina: and did you close and repopen the amarok configuration ?
[12:07] <sivaji>  sivaji anyone using google earth here , someone had this problem ever before
[12:07] <sivaji> when i run google earth xorg restarts y
[12:08] <_4strO> sivaji: video card ?
[12:08] <sivaji> s3unichrome
[12:08] <_4strO> sivaji: are you using beryl or compcomm or compiz ?
[12:08] <sivaji> nd
[12:08] <_4strO> nd ?
[12:10] <sivaji> not beryl other one starts with n
[12:10] <ina> _4strO: Yes I did.
[12:10] <sivaji> ndavdia!
[12:10] <sivaji> !ndavdia
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndavdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <_4strO> nvidia ...
[12:10] <sivaji> ya
[12:10] <_4strO> :)
[12:10] <sivaji> when i update my os ,automatically it got installed
[12:11] <ina> _4strO: the check that ypu add the settings is clickable but not green.
[12:11] <sivaji> _4strO:
[12:11] <_4strO> ina : ypu ?
[12:12] <pawitp> ypu -> gpu
[12:12] <sivaji> _4strO : say something i am waiting for u  here
[12:13] <_4strO> sivaji: i think you dont have any 3D acceleration on your computer
[12:13] <ina> _4strO: waht is gpu? (sorry I am a noob)
[12:13] <sivaji> _4strO ho
[12:13] <sivaji> _4strO is it hardware or software
[12:14] <sivaji> !gpu
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <_4strO> sivaji: hardware
[12:15] <_4strO> sivaji: type in a console (terminal) glxgear | grep -i direct
[12:15] <_4strO> sivaji: oups
[12:15] <_4strO> glxinfo | grep -i direct
[12:15] <waylandbill_> _4strO: don't you mean glxinfo.
[12:15] <_4strO> yes :p
[12:15] <waylandbill_> yup. you did. :-)
[12:16] <ina> _4strO:shall i do this?
[12:16] <_4strO> ina: what is the meaning of this ? 4strO: the check that ypu add the settings is clickable but not green.
[12:17] <sivaji_> _4strO u saw that
[12:17] <_4strO> ina: if you want a new style in amarok go in amarok ->configuration / amarok configuration
[12:18] <_4strO> sivaji_: for myself : direct rendering: Yes
[12:18] <sivaji_> _4strO X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[12:18] <ina> _4strO: That is what I did
[12:19] <ina> _4strO: I want a custom Playerwindow.
[12:19] <_4strO> ina: what is the name of the skin you try to add ?
[12:20] <_4strO> ina: [12:03]  <ina> downloadded some and tell amarok to install them but still no changes
[12:20] <_4strO> hooo i think it didn't change the player view
[12:20] <_4strO> just the context view in amarok
[12:21] <ina> _4strO: I have some problems now because I don't know how to get my toolbar back
[12:21] <_4strO> lol
[12:21] <_4strO> ina right click near the volume
[12:21] <ina> _4strO: Thanks
[12:22] <_4strO> sivaji_: have you another operating system on your computer ?
[12:23] <_4strO> sivaji_: i mean windows :p
[12:23] <sivaji_> ya
[12:23] <ina> _4strO: I recognized my missunderstanding of context design.
[12:23] <sivaji_> but i cant use windows because virus prob
[12:24] <sivaji_> _4strO :
[12:25] <ina> _4strO: Is it possible to change the poup player window?
[12:26] <_4strO> ina: i dont know, i never try this :p
[12:28] <ina> _4strO: Is there a  Player where you can decide where to put the playlist and so on on linux?
[12:28] <ina> _4strO: Sorry i must go eating
[12:28] <r4ge> mp3 player?
[12:29] <_4strO> r4ge: the player view of amarok
[12:44] <sigbjorn> anyone know the official linuxmce channel? Tried to join #linuxmce but only 3 other people there so I suspect it is not the official one
[12:44] <Ash-Fox> linuxmce, what the heck is that?
[12:44] <sigbjorn> www.linuxmce.com
[12:44] <sigbjorn> mediasenter-addon to kubuntu
[12:45] <Ash-Fox> According to their site, you can contact them through forums, e-mail and mailing lists
[12:47] <sigbjorn> in the wiki it also says irc-channel
[12:54] <smile> hi . i have a USB modem connected .. i want know what is this peripheral (/dev/what ??)
[12:54] <smile> how can i deo that ?
[01:00] <smile> hello . anyone is here ??
[01:01] <Sanne> smile: sure :)
[01:02] <smile> Sanne: i want know information about a device .. how to do that ?
[01:03] <Sanne> smile: the command "lspci" will list all your pci devices in the terminal, and "lspci -vv" lists verbose. Try it :)
[01:04] <Sanne> smile: a GUI way would be: kmenu->system-KInfoCenter
[01:06] <smile> Sanne: i need to know what is the device (/dev/what ?)
[01:13] <Sanne> smile: what exactly do you need to know? I don't quite understand.
[01:13] <ardchoille> He needs to know /dev/? of his USB modem
[01:13] <Alarm> whats the device name of a usb modem
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> is it seen as a serial port?
[01:15] <Sanne> oh, I don't know that, sorry
[01:15] <Alarm> he said usb
[01:15] <Sanne> Alarm: I joined after :)
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> I think its /dev/ttys"x".
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> lemme check.
[01:16] <Alarm> smile,  is ur usb modem used at the moment ?
[01:16] <Alarm> i mean are u connected ?
[01:16] <smile> Alarm: yes
[01:17] <Alarm> ok, as i dont know the exact command , do a lsof /dev
[01:17] <Alarm> to see which devices uses what
[01:17] <Alarm> maybe u can figure out somehow like that
[01:17] <Alarm> for example what device uses the application to connect
[01:18] <Alarm> example: beep-medi-player 27725 alarm  mem    CHR 116,16      5773 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[01:18] <Sanne> Alarm, smile: hey, you could monitor the syslog, unplug the device and re-plug it, and see what the log sais. To monitor the log, open a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> smile: check is there is a "/dev/modem"
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> or just plain dmesg would probably tell you
[01:26] <Alarm> Sanne, as nosrednaekim said, dmesg | grep usb ( or grep modem)
[01:26] <Sanne> Alarm: yep, that's right, should have thought of that.
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> smile: did you get that?
[01:31] <smile> nosrednaekim: i have a mobile phone connected and i want know what is the device ? (/dev/what ?)
[01:36] <smile> any help?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> smile: disconnect your phone, them reconnect it.
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> wait about 30 seconds, and then run "dmesg"
[01:36] <smile> nosrednaekim: this will show what is the device of the phone ?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> at the end of the output, should be info about where your phone is connected
[01:36] <smile> nosrednaekim: k... i'll try
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> smile: yes
[01:37] <smile> nosrednaekim:  Dev: isa0060/serio1/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
[01:38] <smile> nosrednaekim: what means this ??
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> is there anything after that?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> pastebin the last 30 or so lines of dmesg
[01:39] <smile> nosrednaekim: nothing else
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> well your phone is not detected then, as a phone I mean.
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> its detected as a USB device, but not a phone
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: Alarm: tell me if I'm reading that wrong.
[01:42] <smile> nosrednaekim: i know ..how can i know the device name ?
[01:42] <Alarm> what ?
[01:42] <naught101> how do I tell if I'm running SElinux?
[01:42] <smile> nosrednaekim: in the /dev/
[01:42] <Alarm> i didnt pay attention sorry
[01:42] <naught101> !SElinux
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> smile: could you please pastebin the last 30 lines?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> of dmesg
[01:43] <Alarm> what dmesg? whos dmesg ?
[01:43] <Alarm> isa0060/serio1/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0?
[01:43] <solidus126> hello all
[01:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> hello
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> smile's
[01:45] <solidus126> I have an unresolved problem with my ATI X1400 graphics card, I posted it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2851666#post2851666
[01:45] <solidus126> but I have not got a response that has helped yet
[01:46] <solidus126> is this a good place to ask for help?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> are you running Kubuntu?
[01:47] <solidus126> yes the latest 7.04
[01:47] <solidus126> I posted as much as I know to do in the above forum link and what firelord suggested did not work
[01:47] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: sorry, that dmesg line doesn't tell me anything, I haven't much experience with usb devices except memory sticks yet.
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: yeah me too.
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: reading your thread....
[01:49] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: thanks
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: lets see a pastebin of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:50] <solidus126> ok, I will put it in the forum
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: ok.
[01:51] <kjellviz> hi there, i have ubuntu installed on my comp, is it possible to "add/change" it to kubuntu without doing a clean install and loosing my files&docs?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: sure! "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> hey really ought to have a bot answer for that by now....
[01:52] <d0zer> how do i install .deb files ?
[01:52] <kjellviz> nosrednaekim: does this also include all the kde apps that the default install of kubuntu does _
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: sure does..
[01:52] <kjellviz> sweet
[01:52] <kjellviz> thanks a million!
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> d0zer: right click on package-> kubuntu package menu-> install package
[01:54] <d0zer> got it.. thx
[01:54] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: I uploaded my xorg.conf
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: heh... thats like the second most common question up here, first being the question to !adeptfix
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: k
[01:55] <kjellviz> nosrednaekim: hehe sorry for that :P  btw what does !adeptfix do ? lol
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[01:55] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: oh no problem its an easy answer
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[01:56] <kjellviz> ohhh, well i guess i would know if i knew what adept was and where using it :P
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: its the kubuntu equivlent of synaptic
[01:56] <kjellviz> aha
[01:57] <kjellviz> thanks, im gonna reboot from hdd and do a kde desktop install :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: ok!
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: not usre if this matters,but I always see 'section "extensions"' at the bottom of the xorg.
[01:58] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: what actions should I take?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> move that section to the bottom of the file.
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> below the 'Section "DRI"'
[02:00] <solidus126> OK, will try
[02:01] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: going to restart X
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: did it work?
[02:09] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: i believe that you resolved my issue, thank you very much for your time I will post my results on the forum
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> are you sure?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> maybe i'll make a post claiming the fame ;)
[02:10] <solidus126> I know there is a definite large improvement to both XaoS rendering and my movie playback, I think that it is restored to its former glory
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> try glxinfo.
[02:10] <solidus126> k
[02:10] <solidus126> should I post my glxinfo into the forum?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: nah, no need but does it say ATI or fglrx as the renderstring?
[02:11] <solidus126> yes it does
[02:12] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: I will post on the forums the fix, thank you for my time (I will credit you)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> lol.. I was kiddin.
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> don't worry about it.
[02:13] <solidus126> also, btw do you know of any good sources to learn about linux use with Kubuntu, I have only been a linux user for about 10 monthes and still have not learned too many tricks
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: the best way, IMHO, is hang out on IRS for a while.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> *IRC
[02:14] <soulrider_> does anyone know where i can gte applets for my panel ?
[02:15] <CraZy675> I installed a bunch of fonts and now some of them are taking over as default
[02:15] <Sanne> solidus126: the Kubuntu Desktop Guide is pretty nice, you shouldt find it under Kmenu->Help. Also help.ubuntu.com has nice articles.
[02:16] <CraZy675> Is there a fast way I can weed out the fonts that some how get set as default?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: they set themselves as default? well, you can stop that in systemsettings.
[02:17] <Sanne> soulrider_: there's a package kicker-applets (in case you don't have it already)
[02:18] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: no they didn't set themselfs as default they are just appearing instead of.  my font settings in system settings are still set the same as when I installed kubuntu
[02:18] <soulrider_> Sanne: im not running kubuntu =/
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: wow. well do you know the names of these rogue fonts?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> soulrider_: what are you running?
[02:18] <Sanne> soulrider_: oh. what do you run then?
[02:19] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes: so far I've removed Alien5, bradybun, dynasty, linkin, METOLD, tintin
[02:19] <soulrider_> archlinux
[02:19] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: actually the problem is occurring in firefox
[02:20] <Sanne> soulrider_: but you're running kde?
[02:20] <soulrider_> yeah
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: but nowhere else?
[02:22] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: not that I can find at the moment
[02:22] <Sanne> soulrider_: I don't know how archlinux organizes it's software... maybe there's a package for applets too? Do you have any applets right now?
[02:22] <soulrider_> yeah, i do, i found a package
[02:23] <soulrider_> but i meant somewhere i could browse applets
[02:23] <soulrider_> supposedly there are some in kde-look.org but i cant find a section for them
[02:23] <Sanne> soulrider_: I didn't find much except those Kubuntu provides me with. I have about 30 applets in my list, dunno if there are more.
[02:24] <soulrider_> ahh, ok
[02:24] <soulrider_> but, does anyone know what the Pause/Break button in  my keyboard is for? :P
[02:24] <soulrider_> ive been using computers for almost 15 years and i never knew lol
[02:25] <CraZy675> the pause button pauses the bootup bios screen doesn't it?
[02:25] <Sanne> soulrider_: pausing quake3 ;)
[02:25] <soulrider> lol
[02:25] <soulrider> keyboards should be redesigned
[02:26] <soulrider> like, why would anuone use num lock or scroll lock? :P
[02:26] <soulrider> num, maybe, scroll? i dont think so
[02:26] <CraZy675> num lock is really handy on laptops
[02:26] <soulrider> also, do we need two 'windows' keys?!
[02:26] <soulrider> yes, just on laptops
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: did you try firefox specific settings? you ight also want to enable "kde settings in gtk apps"
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: its called a "super" key
[02:27] <soulrider> well, its super useless to me :P
[02:27] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes i set all firefox specific settings to dejavu font which come default with ubuntu.  I'll try kde settings in gtk apps
[02:28] <soulrider> im installing the extra applets thing, what i dont like is that it installs some stuff i really dont want
[02:28] <soulrider> like wireless tools =/
[02:29] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: when I changed the "kde settings in gtk apps"  It changed the toolbar font, where that is working.  what is not working is the webpage in the viewing window of firefox
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[02:29] <CraZy675> this is weird
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[02:31] <CraZy675> I've had this happen before and usually I just need to remove a few
[02:31] <CraZy675> i guess I'll keep trying that
[02:31] <CraZy675> but before it would effect everything
[02:32] <CraZy675> maybe i need to try another gtk app
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: so you mean like the fons of webpages?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> *fonts?
[02:32] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: firefox does wierd things like that.
[02:32] <CraZy675> yea
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> maybe there is a plugin for configuring that
[02:33] <CraZy675> maybe
[02:34] <Kjellviz> hi there, i just did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu installation, and now beryl doesent load, any ideas ?
[02:35] <Kjellviz> (it worked fine in ubuntu)
[02:35] <Kjellviz> (/gnome)
[02:35] <Tm_T> !beryl | Kjellviz
[02:35] <ubotu> Kjellviz: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <Kjellviz> yes i am aware of that
[02:36] <Kjellviz> but seemingly it was the kde install that broke it ><
[02:36] <CraZy675> there I just removed all my fonts
[02:37] <Tm_T> still, it's beryl problem, and you have best luck find knowledge about it in #ubuntu-effects
[02:37] <Kjellviz> aight ill try there
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you have to get emerald...
[02:38] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: don't have to
[02:39] <Kjellviz> nosrednaekim: what is emerald ?
[02:41] <Kjellviz> !emerald | kjellviz
[02:41] <marius_> sal 2 all
[02:41] <marius_> ma poate ajuta cineva
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: its the window decorator
[02:41] <marius_> am o prb cu sistemul audio
[02:42] <Kjellviz> an plugin for beryl or what?
[02:42] <marius_> nu imi merge satelitul central
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> !es | marius
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: kinda.
[02:43] <ubotu> marius: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> its really cool, transparent window borders and such.
[02:43] <marius_> can anyoane help me whit my problem
[02:43] <akrus> hello :)
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> marius_: sure, but you have to speak in english :-P
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:44] <akrus> I need to deny 89.178.*.* in proftpd
[02:44] <marius_>  i have an 5.1 audio system
[02:44] <akrus> 89.178.0.0/?? -> what? :)
[02:44] <akrus> 24 is for last *
[02:44] <marius_> and my central satelite doesn;t work
[02:45] <marius_> so....
[02:45] <marius_> can anyoane help
[02:45] <marius_> can anyone help
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> marius_: no experience with 5.1 sorry
[02:46] <marius_> i gues not!
[02:46] <marius_> ok
[02:46] <marius_> tanks anyway
[02:46] <bennnn> anyone know why openoffice just crashes on load in ubuntu feisty 7
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> bennnn: remove the .oo-2.0 directory in your home directory
[02:49] <Ayabara> when I open kaffeine it always pops up in a corner somewhere. how can I make it always come up centered on the screen?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: you're not running beryl are you?
[02:50] <Syndic4te> Does anyone know how Ican change my refresh rate so that it will boot at a certain refresh rate?
[02:50] <Syndic4te> It always goes back to 50...
[02:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> using k3b, is there a way to leave no pause between tracks?
[02:51] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: nope
[02:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> got a fluid mix that I would like to keep that way
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: in beryl it would have been easy, don't know about kwin
[02:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> I don't see an option to, just figured I would ask
[02:52] <atidem> ciao
[02:53] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: ok. I'm installing Beryl now, actually :-)
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: heh, not becuase of this I hope.
[02:54] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: no. I've reinstalled on my laptop, and it was a bit down on the todo-list. your comment just moved it a bit up :-)
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: hehe
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:59] <hnsn> y0
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[02:59] <soulrider> HELLO
[02:59] <soulrider> sorry caps :P
[03:00] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I have Beryl working, and kaffeine still don't centered. Spill it ;-)
[03:00] <BluesKaj> hiyas hnsn. nosrednaekim, soulrider ...Savinig Linux Souls?
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc? anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc? anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc?
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> oops
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry about that
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yep.... tech support never sleeps (glares at BluesKaj)
[03:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess I hit copy a few times more than needed
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: you have beryl-manager?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> isn't there an option in k3b to eliminate time between tracks ?
[03:01] <soulrider> there probably is =/
[03:01] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: yep
[03:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> that is what I'm trying to do..  can't seem to find it
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: open beryl settings manager
[03:02] <soulrider> Guilty_as_Sin: hold on a sec
[03:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> go to window management
[03:03] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: placing centered works fine. only now I think "intelligent" sounds good
[03:03] <Ayabara> :-)
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> oh you found where to do it? cool
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> under set window attribs by window type?
[03:04] <soulrider> Guilty_as_Sin: i cant find something to do that either =/
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> I found volume leveling..
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> about it
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> hmm..
[03:04] <soulrider> google maybe? =/
[03:04] <epimeth> ahoy mike, BluesKaj!
[03:04] <BluesKaj> hi epimeth
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess Fabric won't be mixed this go around..  oh well
[03:05] <epimeth> you guys know how to set up a network printer?
[03:05] <epimeth> shared through samba
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> kprinter? KDE is pretty good about autodetecting printers
[03:08] <BluesKaj> epimeth,is it connected to your pc or a different one on the network
[03:08] <epimeth> on a windows box on the network
[03:08] <epimeth> when I go to the samba share, it doesn't appear
[03:08] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: kprinter not installed by default?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> ok, I have the same setup.\
[03:08] <epimeth> sweet
[03:09] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: BluesKaj will help me :-p
[03:09] <BluesKaj> you want to use the cups printer wizard
[03:09] <BluesKaj> in system settings
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: ok. I really ought to learn how samba works tough...
[03:10] <vorlon_> Hello all
[03:10] <epimeth>  hrm... its an HP... will HPLIP toolbox not help?
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> hello vorlon_
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: no thats only for local printers
[03:11] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, epimeth you're not really using samba directly ..it's in the back ground as the engine so to speak
[03:11] <epimeth> cool... checking out the printer wizard from system settings then :-)
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> ah... well then its simple.
[03:11] <BluesKaj> no i also have an HP printer a 3520
[03:12] <epimeth> its not finding anything....
[03:12] <vorlon_> Does anyone know why kubuntu has no cron tasks in the lists on install?  Im used to redhat which auto configured...
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ok epimeth, are your networked pcs connected to a router ?
[03:12] <epimeth> BluesKaj: yup
[03:12] <hnsn> what
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ok, don't rush ..there some parameters to follow
[03:12] <epimeth> right
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> vorlon_- what cron tasks would you expect to be there for the normal user?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> epimeth,, you went into system settings and chose printers ?
[03:13] <epimeth> yup
[03:14] <epimeth> *Add -> Printer -> SMB Shared Printer -> scan
[03:15] <vorlon_> Dragnslcr- lol im a bit clueless when it comes to what jobs I would expect it to run.. i gues im just used to the automatic nature of other distro's
[03:16] <BluesKaj> ok did you choose smb shsred printer (windows) ?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> shared
[03:16] <gastly> hi all!
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> vorlon_- if there aren't any tasks that you think should be there but aren't, there isn't really a problem
[03:16] <BluesKaj> then choose Guest account, epimeth
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> its a gastly day out... hi
[03:17] <gastly> hi nosrednaekim
[03:18] <vorlon_> Dragnslcr-Ok thanks
[03:19] <epimeth> BluesKaj: it finds the workgroup, but no computers inside the workgroup
[03:19] <gastly> hey what IRC client are you using? I was just looking for one that's good and had loads of features.
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> konversation is great
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> I'm using GAIM
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> which isn't exactly an irc client
[03:20] <BluesKaj> epimeth , check properties on the the other pc that the printer connects to ..you need the name of the pc ..like my wifes is Pavilion
[03:20] <gastly> I am using Konversation. But I think it does not have any cool plugins
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> gastly: yeah it does... if you use amarok. do "/media"
[03:21] <BluesKaj> epimeth then check printer properties on the other printer and get the name of the driver
[03:21] <gastly> ok
[03:21] <BluesKaj> on the other pc
[03:21] <gastly> cool!
[03:22] <gastly> hey thanks nosrednaekim!
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> gastly: yep... its got some other ones too.
[03:23] <gastly> like?
[03:23] <BluesKaj> yeah gastly , konverstion is great, theonly thing lacking is a built in server list
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> like h4kkx0r auto translation
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> The only feature I miss in Konversation is event scripting
[03:23] <gastly> BluesKaj: It has a server list I think?
[03:24] <vorlon_> cheers all
[03:25] <adaptr> Dragnslcr and click-and-drag splitting of threads... AKA virtual channels
[03:25] <BluesKaj> that's fine epimeth ..if it's the network server , but just get the pc name
[03:25] <adaptr> apart from that, it's teh nuke
[03:25] <gastly> Dragnslcr: Yup scripting improves things gratly.
[03:25] <BluesKaj> and the printer driver name
[03:25] <gastly> typo: greatly
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> adaptr- I've never seen that in any IRC client I've used
[03:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: nice... got a test page out
[03:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: cheers :-)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> coolness epimeth :)
[03:26] <epimeth> BluesKaj: and now it just dissapeared???
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> When Konversation adds event scripting, I'll probably start using it
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: add it yourelsf!
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Not that I do much, but I still like the ability
[03:26] <adaptr> Dragnslcr I wonder why not - it's incredibly useful and logical
[03:26] <gastly> Dragnslcr: What r u using right now?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> gastly- XChat
[03:27] <gastly> Dragnslcr: cool!
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, if my C programming weren't horribly rusty, I might try
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Too many years in high-level languages
[03:27] <gastly> wait lemme try this
[03:28] <gastly> Random Fortune: Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste 	-- ksh@cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93
[03:28] <gastly> lol
[03:28] <gastly> Its fun
[03:28] <epimeth> BluesKaj: and now I can't add a printer?  wtf....
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: after  quick check, there is a dcop interface to conversation, which would make very very easy
[03:28] <epimeth> oh... lol
[03:28] <epimeth> wasn't on CUPS
[03:28] <epimeth> okay
[03:29] <gastly> OK guys thanks for the help! Bye!
[03:29] <xst> How do I make knetworkmanager be automaticallly loaded upon login?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- it probably wouldn't be too difficult, but it's one of those things where someone who knows the code could implement it in a day or two, instead of the two weeks it would take me to do it
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> And if someone else did it, it might actually work correctly
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: gotcha..
[03:35] <BluesKaj> epimeth, cups back on track ?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> bbiab , stuff to do
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- a quick hack that just did "execute this script when this event occurs" would be good enough for me, but I doubt that would be the best thing for the general user base
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: right, and I could probably do that quick hack in python in about an hour.
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> but I'd have to learn Dcop and such.
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> which might be useful, but its also outdated
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> The Konversation page on scripting says it can do scripts in Perl and Python, but doesn't give an example
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: hmm...
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, could a scrpit be written to auto load a server list for the various IRC networks ? A mature IRC client like Konversation should have one IMO :)
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> Do Perl and Python have dcop libraries, or do you have to shell out to do it?
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- heh, I'm sure it could be done in C, just read a config file and populate a list. I'm surprised Konversation doesn't already have a server list
[03:46] <BluesKaj> there is a list that the user has to configure from the getgo
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: dcop in python is as simple as "from pykde import dcop
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> I don't do perl
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> So yeah, basic event scripting would be easy, it would just require hooking into the event and running a given script normally
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> cant many irc clients take an irc://freenode.net type url from the browser?   Ya could just have a little web page with your serverlists then.
[03:55] <see-g> you'd just have to figure out how to pass the URL to the client
[03:56] <see-g> somewhere in $your_browser there should be a way to make it open certain links (e.g. irc://) with your IRC client...
[03:58] <Dr_willis> yea. i was thinking KDE allready had that setup.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> but I only go to one irc network. :)
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I found this Perl script- http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Server_List
[04:01] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I got two of the calculators half-ass restored
[04:01] <Minataku> AND converted to use standard 9V batteries
[04:01] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh.   Ya da man!
[04:01] <Minataku> The other one, the LCD one only needs 2x LR44
[04:01] <Dr_willis> yea that was the newer one.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> I got out my old hp28S - it needs fancy odd ball batteries also.  like i need it running. :)
[04:02] <Minataku> One was easy to convert, I just ripped apart the battery pack (on both of them, actually, to make space for the 9V) and it already connected to the battery pack with a 9V clip
[04:02] <Dr_willis> That calculator helped me pass College
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  so they used 3 AA sized batteries instead of a 9v eh.
[04:02] <Minataku> Actually
[04:03] <Minataku> The two that needed 9V for operation used 2x 1.2V NiCd
[04:03] <Minataku> There was a DC-DC converter inside the pack to bump it to 9V
[04:03] <Dr_willis> aint that fancy. :)
[04:03] <Minataku> The other two use 3x 1.2V NiCd but actually operate at 3.6V
[04:03] <Minataku> No conversion required
[04:04] <Minataku> I may try to make a custom battery pack that uses plain (and easily replaced) Alkaline AAs
[04:04] <Minataku> +0.4V shouldn't be too far out of tolerance
[04:05] <Minataku> If any thing it'll end up with batteries that last longer than time itself
[04:05] <Minataku> Well, not really, just longer than the average BP-1A
[04:05] <Minataku> ^^
[04:06] <Minataku> It's cool, the TI-30 has this nifty flickering 8 when it's doing complex calculations
[04:06] <Minataku> As for the Rat Shack one, it's an EC-4000
[04:06] <Minataku> Nothing more than a rebranded TI-57
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Yep. Radioshack always did that.
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Even their radios adn stuff are that way.
[04:07] <Minataku> That one had a pin-header type plug in it
[04:07] <Minataku> What I did was ripped off the 9V clip from inside the TI's...
[04:08] <Minataku> Stripped some of the insulation off the ends, jammed the bare wires into the plug then secured it all with electrical tape
[04:08] <Minataku> Totally half-assed, if even that much, but hey, it works
[04:10] <see-g> thanks for reminding me ... I'll have to find some tape to insulate a mains connection...
[04:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:12] <Dr_willis> I gotta go clean out the fish tank the wife got at a rummage sale.. shes feeling MUCH better - spent all day yesterday at JunkSales!
[04:12] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:12] <Minataku> She buy anything good?
[04:12] <Minataku> Say, do you even have fish? Or did she just buy it? XD
[04:13] <Dr_willis> we got a whole 4 goldfish. :)
[04:13] <Dr_willis> now they got a Big 40 Gal tank.
[04:13] <MECU> how can I tell it to use Firefox to open things and not Konqueror?
[04:14] <Minataku> Haha
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> MECU- System Settings -> Default Applications
[04:16] <spawn57> are tehre any replacements for panel? like kxdocker?
[04:17] <MECU> thank you
[04:19] <Minataku> |    $		big money		unary exclusive OR (ASCII)    |
[04:19] <Minataku> |    c^H|	change			binary mingle		      |
[04:20] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !info kxdocker
[04:21] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[04:21] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, thx for the URL & script ...was out for a bit . I'll check it out in  a lil later
[04:21] <Dr_willis> I dont like Kxdocker
[04:21] <Minataku> Also, since overpunches are difficult to read on the average VDT, the exclusive-or operator may be written ?. This correctly expresses the average person's reaction on first encountering exclusive-or, especially on a PDP-11.
[04:23] <Minataku> That INTERCAL manual is hilarious
[04:23] <Dr_willis> !info fspanel
[04:23] <ubotu> fspanel: minimalist panel for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-6 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:27] <angkoL> hi
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> !search ksharedptr.h
[04:42] <ubotu> Found:
[04:47] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[04:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:51] <xst> I have tried to configure a second monitor to my laptop but now, whenever I click on System Settings -> Monitor&Display kcrashhandler pops up and I am therefore not able to (re)configure the display. Furthermore the powermanager is now crashing also, when I log in. It seems that kubuntu seriousely screwed up my system when I configured my monitor. What to do?
[04:53] <arkanabar> I also have a graphics problem.  After installing the nvidia binaries for my Geforce 7100, I am stuck with a resolution of 640x480!  I had to revert my xorg.conf to even log in....
[04:54] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: have you tried manually setting your resolution higher?
[04:54] <arkanabar> The current upper limit IS 640x480.
[04:58] <arkanabar> Though given that this is a virgin install, nothing but the nvidia drivers and updates, I've considered reinstalling.
[04:58] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: did it give you an error with xorg?
[04:58] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:58] <arkanabar> No, it just never got to desktop until I reverted xorg.
[04:58] <RadiantFire> what was the error it gave you, or did it just hang?
[04:58] <arkanabar> Remind me how to pastebin,please?
[04:58] <RadiantFire> !pastebin > arkanabar
[04:58] <arkanabar> It just hanged in a text screen.
[04:59] <RadiantFire> and if possible, your xorg.conf with the nvidia
[04:59] <RadiantFire> this is why binary drivers are no fun...
[04:59] <arkanabar> I think I overwrote those, but I can run the config again.
[05:00] <RadiantFire> well make sure that the current working one is backed up and restored before you restart x
[05:00] <RadiantFire> moving the config file around doesn't matter unless x needs to start
[05:01] <dwkr> hi
[05:02] <arkanabar> It generates a backup & even reminds me where it is when I run the config ... just need to remind myself how to do that.
[05:02] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode
[05:02] <waltercool> hi there...someone know how open .rmvb videos?? (real media)??
[05:03] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: you can cp the backup file ontop of the new one
[05:05] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode, help me please
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if Adept and/or apt keeps a log of actions? I just installed a whole lot of dev packages to try to get something to compile, and I might as well get rid of them
[05:05] <blekos> how can i remove a directory to another destination? (from command line)
[05:06] <blekos> is it rm?
[05:06] <waltercool> yes
[05:06] <CraZy675> so what is the trick to installing flash player for swiftfox?
[05:06] <RadiantFire> blekos: rmdir
[05:06] <blekos> thnx
[05:06] <arkanabar> RadiantFire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25969/ is current xorg.conf
[05:06] <waltercool> rm -R
[05:06] <RadiantFire> blekos: of if your feeling really daring rm -rf
[05:06] <happytiger> How do I increase SHMMIN parameter ? Problem is I cant start postgresql 8.2 due to to little shared memory?
[05:06] <RadiantFire> but rm -rf deletes everything
[05:06] <RadiantFire> so be careful
[05:06] <ardchoille> blekos: If the dir is empty: rmdir  .. if it isn't empty: rm -r
[05:07] <waltercool> rm -R delete directory and all
[05:07] <blekos> i c, i think rm -r is what i need
[05:07] <waltercool> is recursive
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: this line may be your problem
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: modes "640x480@60"
[05:07] <blekos> recursive meaning copy all its subfolders ?
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: as well as this
[05:07] <RadiantFire> modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: I would suggest commenting those 2 lines out
[05:08] <waltercool> delete folder and subfolder
[05:08] <ardchoille> blekos: No, "recursive" means to act on all files below a certain level
[05:08] <waltercool> if u want move is mv, or copy, cp
[05:08] <blekos> i dor rmdir-r but i get command not found
[05:08] <Dragnslcr> "how can i remove a directory to another destination?"  Are you sure mean "remove" and not "move"?
[05:09] <arkanabar> RadiantFire:  Thanks.  also have xorg.conf.1 at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25970/
[05:10] <blekos> it is copied in a wrong folder so i want to have it placed somewhere else
[05:10] <Dragnslcr> blekos- so you mean move the directory?
[05:10] <Dragnslcr> blekos- mv [source]  [destination] 
[05:10] <CraZy675> I would imagine that the majority of people install flash player.  Why can't I? it times out when trying to install it from macromedia
[05:10] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: ah, see thats what the Screen section should look like. Its entirely possible you could just copy that part to the file with nvidia. Also, if you ever make a mistake and your X wno't come up, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will ask you like 4 questions, and you can mostly click through it, to get a working config back
[05:10] <blekos> yes. Remove was accurate as it did not mean completely erase it. But i guess in your context is move
[05:10] <blekos> i cs
[05:10] <blekos> i c
[05:10] <ardchoille> blekos: There is no -r option to rmdir, you need rm -r
[05:11] <blekos> i guess mv did the trick
[05:11] <blekos> :)
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> blekos- "remove" does mean delete
[05:11] <ardchoille> blekos: mv just moves files, it doesn't delete anything.
[05:11] <blekos> speaking in pc world i guess u r wright...
[05:12] <xst> I have altered my monitor settings from System Settings -> Monitor&Display and now things are a bit screwed up: 1) power manager crashes upon every log in, 2) I cannot open System Settings -> Monitor & Display anymore (it crashes). What to do?
[05:12] <Dragnslcr> blekos- no, that's the English definition for remove. "remove" means delete or erase
[05:13] <blekos> lol, funny conversation, but according to Collins English dictionary Complete & Ubrdidged "remove=to take away and place elsewhere"
[05:15] <jriachi> blekos: in this case,  elsewhere==/dev/null
[05:15] <ardchoille> blekos: Well, unless you have the ability to nullify matter, then that's what remove means ;) When you remove something, you're really just placing it in a different place.
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I don't think I've heard anyone use that definition of remove in a while, if ever
[05:16] <blekos> back to the real problem, i got a msg File size limit exceeded (core dumped)
[05:16] <blekos> i never thought i could start a flame (even for fun) from such a question!!!
[05:16] <Dragnslcr> When you try to use mv?
[05:17] <blekos> i kept a back on a wrong folder and now i want to move this file to the "proper" folder in which i keep my backups
[05:17] <blekos> i kept a back up on a wrong folder and now i want to move this file to the "proper" folder in which i keep my backups
[05:18] <blekos> but it seems to be quite big
[05:18] <CraZy675> how do I install flashplugin-nonfree? the macromedia site always times out
[05:18] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:18] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:18] <blekos> sorry thought why i try to use
[05:19] <blekos> yes, when i try to use mv, after awhile i get this msg
[05:19] <CraZy675> that doesn't help me
[05:19] <ardchoille> CraZy675: enable multiverse, then: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:19] <CraZy675> ok
[05:19] <micha_> Hello. I'm afraid this is asked often, but I'm having problems installing binary nvidia drivers.  The wiki tells me to use sytem->administration->restricted devices manager. That does not exist. I installed with adept manager, but extension glx is still missing.
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> blekos- how large is the file, and how much free disk space do you have?
[05:19] <CraZy675> ardchoille: my multiverse is enabled
[05:20] <CraZy675> ardchoille: the problem is the macromedia site won't upload it to me
[05:20] <ardchoille> CraZy675: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:20] <blekos> it is 4gb+ and have  63gb free. Please note that i try to move it to a NTFS partition
[05:20] <ardchoille> CraZy675: Ah, I see. Nothing I can do to help with that, sorry
[05:20] <jussi01> CraZy675: it does that sometimes... keep trying
[05:20] <ardchoille> !ntfs | blekos
[05:21] <ubotu> blekos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:21] <CraZy675> oh I'll keep trying
[05:21] <blekos> i can see and write to my ntfs
[05:21] <CraZy675> when I do get it is there someway I can set up a mirror for my other machines?
[05:21] <blekos> it is properly mounted
[05:22] <jussi01> CraZy675: i dont know, sorry
[05:22] <blekos> any ideas?
[05:22] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode, help me please
[05:23] <blekos> i also want to ask this: i have installed nvidia-glx, but when I try to install nvidia-settings from the adept manager it marks nvidia-glx for removal
[05:24] <blekos> cant i have both, are they incompatible?
[05:24] <micha_> blekos: did installing nvidia-glx work for you? I'm currently fighting with that... glxinfo still tells me that GLX is missing
[05:25] <Alarm> blekos,  you try that trhough console ?
[05:26] <blekos> yes it workd for me
[05:27] <blekos> sorry micha_
[05:27] <blekos> what do you mean workd for me
[05:27] <blekos> Alarm
[05:27] <blekos> no i havent tried through console
 i also want to ask this: i have installed nvidia-glx, but when I try to install nvidia-settings from the adept manager it marks nvidia-glx for removal
[05:27] <Alarm> and i ask, if u tried to install nvidia-settings through console
[05:27] <Alarm> do so then
[05:28] <blekos> will i be asked if there is smg 2 b removed?
[05:28] <blekos> i'm just afraid for complication problems?
[05:28] <Alarm> yes
[05:28] <Alarm> u can always answer 'n'
[05:28] <Narf> Hi all,
[05:28] <blekos> micha_a, there was a command that when i entered it, i could see that i had rendering
[05:29] <Narf> could someone of you please explain to me how to start kubuntu without starting X automatically
[05:29] <Alarm> micha_,  what does glxinfo | grep render show you ?
[05:29] <Alarm> Narf, u want to get to console for one time or everytime ?
[05:30] <micha_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:30] <micha_> serveral times
[05:30] <Alarm> not as root
[05:30] <Alarm> do it as simple user
[05:30] <Alarm> wihout sudo
[05:30] <micha_> that was without sudo
[05:30] <Alarm> check in the /etc/xorg.conf if in driver "nvidia"
[05:30] <blekos> Alarm, where can i post some result for u to see them?
[05:30] <Alarm> and not 'nv' or something else
[05:31] <Alarm> http://mishu.eu.org/paste
[05:31] <micha_> hm, no xorg.conf in /etc
[05:31] <Narf> Alarm I'm trying to install my Nvidia driver and therefore I have to start in text mode
[05:31] <Narf> Problem is that I can't
[05:31] <Alarm> Narf, ctrl+alt+f1
[05:31] <Narf> anytime I try either the computer start with X or it don't start at all
[05:32] <Alarm> logout first better from this session
[05:32] <micha_> ah ok etc/X11/xorg.conf.. it's using NV
[05:32] <blekos> Alarm could u please see this http://www.mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3502
[05:32] <Alarm> micha_,  change it to "nvidia"
[05:32] <Alarm> restart x
[05:32] <Narf> Alarm: I know but as soon as I shutdown X I can't access anything in linux it's just dead
[05:32] <micha_> ok, i'll try. Thanks.
[05:32] <Narf>  I just don't understand it
[05:32] <Alarm> dead ? i dont understand either what u need to know , how to get into console ?
[05:33] <Narf> Alarm: I'm using Kubuntu Feisty 64 bit version
[05:33] <Alarm> blekos, as you see: The following packages are BROKEN:
[05:33] <Alarm> blekos try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:34] <Alarm> Narf, go on
[05:34] <Narf> Alarm: I open text mode using ctrl+alt+f1 but as long as the Xserver is still running I can't install the Nvidia driver
[05:34] <Alarm> stop kdm
[05:34] <blekos> but i see render as yes, and i also got another message, http://www.mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3503
[05:35] <Alarm> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:35] <Narf> Alarm: my problem is that as soon as I shutdow X my monitor is black and I can't access any of the textmode server ctrl+alt+f1 // F2 or something else
[05:35] <blekos> i press no to the first sollution and got another suggestion, what do u think of it
[05:35] <Narf> I simple have to restart and start all ovr
[05:35] <micha_> OK, that worked. Thanks again.
[05:35] <Alarm> i dont know what: Score is -370 is
[05:35] <Alarm> micha_,  no prob
[05:36] <Alarm> but as much i see blekos  it tries to install the new driver
[05:36] <Narf> Alarm: I'll try that and come back to lat you know whether it worked
[05:36] <blekos> should i go for it?
[05:36] <Alarm> Narf,  you mean its not shutting down ?
[05:36] <grul> !ntfs-3g
[05:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:36] <Alarm> doesnt turn of ?
[05:36] <blekos> what does the score -370 mean?
[05:37] <Alarm> blekos,  as i am not an expert am also a newbie here, or wait for someone else to answer. i have installed drivers from the nvidia.com site
[05:37] <mordaunt> where do you add things to kde startup?
[05:37] <Alarm> but i dont think you can damage ur system
[05:37] <blekos> i c
[05:37] <blekos> thnx
[05:37] <Alarm> remove the old drivers
[05:37] <Alarm> and install the nvidia-glx-new
[05:38] <Alarm> blekos,  as i risk sometimes, i would install the new ones
[05:38] <zipper> Uhh, Kdevelop actually seems kind of nice. Its not visual studio, but nice.
[05:38] <Alarm> did apt-get -f install do something ?
[05:39] <Alarm> its an ide . for something more download tools for qt or gtk development
[05:39] <zipper> i dont wanna do qt or gtk development, just learning c/c++
[05:39] <Alarm> then kdevelop is ideal
[05:40] <zipper> it just takes a while getting used to, but yeah, it seems nice
[05:40] <Alarm> why would someone need a whole visual studio to write a simple program then
[05:40] <Alarm> :)
[05:40] <zipper> i need to write many simple programs :)
[05:40] <mordaunt> if you're only starting to learn C/C++ you only nano
[05:40] <mordaunt> you onle need
[05:40] <zipper> well
[05:40] <mordaunt> or kate
[05:40] <zipper> been learning for a year at uni, so not completely newbie
[05:40] <Alarm> mordaunt,  not everyone knows how to use gccs flags
[05:40] <mordaunt> try kate
[05:41] <zipper> nah
[05:41] <zipper> vim ftw
[05:41] <micha_> hm, kate is nice, but missing some helpful stuff. Like outcommenting blocks in c++
[05:41] <zipper> but i want a proper gui for programming
[05:41] <mordaunt> vim suxor!
[05:41] <zipper> vim is the shizzle! :)
[05:41] <micha_> i recommend code::blocks ;)
[05:41] <Alarm> any simple editor that handles brackets and tabs is fine. the point if you are in the mood of learning the arguments that gcc needs
[05:41] <zipper> i've heard about that recently, is it new or what? Think i heard about it a week ago or something
[05:41] <zipper> code::blocks that is
[05:42] <Alarm> some are not, or are too lazy. and if an ide provides my compiling arguments and the text editor, why to handle it on my own
[05:42] <micha_> no, it's not new. It's a rather simple IDE, but runs identical on Linux & Windows and very good for cross-plattform-development
[05:42] <mordaunt> well if you're programming on unix you need a few simple tools
[05:43] <mordaunt> a simple editor, gcc, gdb, gprof
[05:43] <zipper> micha_, i see. Simple as in a regular text editor (kate/gvim) or is it made for a specific language?
[05:43] <mordaunt> i think kdevelop has all that stuff integrated
[05:43] <Dragnslcr> I'm looking forward to Kdevelop 4 having C# support
[05:44] <micha_> zipper: It'S an IDE including project management. But not so complex like kdeveleop. Editor is similar to kate, but some stuff which helps for c++ programming.
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> I'll be interested in seeing how it compares to MonoDevelop
[05:44] <mordaunt> Dragnslcr: it'll probably be faster ;)
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[05:44] <zipper> micha_, cool, i'll have to take a look at it then, thanks
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> MonoDevelop does lag a bit sometimes
[05:45] <Narf> Alarm: sorry to bother you again but I can't shutdown X without shutting down all other sessions as well Ctr+alt+F1 to ctr+alt+F6
[05:45] <micha_> zipper: but use nightly builds - not the last official release. They are stable and way more advanced.
[05:45] <zipper> hehe
[05:45] <zipper> nightly builds
[05:45] <zipper> that reminds me of running debian sid
[05:45] <zipper> oh the dependency horrors
[05:45] <Alarm> why would u need 6 sessions ?
[05:45] <Narf> I need only one but as soon as I chutdown X I have non
[05:46] <zipper> Narf, you sure it isnt just kdm/gdm keeping X running?
[05:46] <Alarm> anyway i dont know if u need to end all sessions to shut down, thats something i never tried
[05:46] <zipper> Narf, oh, so you cant access tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) at all?
[05:46] <Alarm> i cant understand the real problem to be honest
[05:46] <erz-> where is kubuntu distribution upgrade tool ?  : )
[05:46] <Alarm> erz-, apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <Narf> zipper I open a session with crt+alt+F1 and login then I go back with alt+F7 and shutdown X
[05:47] <Alarm> what i dont understand is why do u get in console to shut down ?
[05:47] <Narf> As soon a I do this the sesion ctr+alt+F1 is also no longer accessable
[05:47] <Narf> I don't understand it and I'm working on it for hours ba now
[05:47] <erz-> Alarm: i want to upgrade to feisty
[05:48] <Alarm> i dont know if its the same in kubuntu, but i suppose its apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:48] <Alarm> if its on debian like that it will be the same on kubuntu
[05:48] <Narf> Alarm: I'm trying to install the Nvidia driver for my GFX card but to do that X has to be deactive
[05:49] <Alarm> Narf, i allready told you. alt+ctrl+f1 , login , and to sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:49] <Narf> Alarm: I don't think that I can upgrade my version as it is already the lates release
[05:49] <Alarm> then install the nvidia driver
[05:49] <Alarm> and startx again
[05:49] <Alarm> dont get why you need to restart or open 6 sessions
[05:50] <Narf> Alarm: give me a sec
[05:52] <damianos_> Hello
[05:52] <damianos_> what kind of program do you use for videoconference (I mean video and voice in the same time)?
[05:53] <Alarm> skype ?
[05:53] <Alarm> amsn ? i dont know if this supports audio. surely does camera
[05:57] <BluesKaj> you there Dragnslcr ?
[05:58] <Rictoo> How do I update a specific application with apt-get?
[05:58] <damianos_> Alarm: skype doesn't work with video under linux
[05:59] <marcel__> hi, anyone know how to edit the kde lost & found entries?
[05:59] <Narf> Alarm: I did exactly as you told me, I typed sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and as soon asi pressed enter my screen gets black and I have to restart
[05:59] <Alarm> damianos_,  didnt know , thats why i did add a questionmark
[05:59] <damianos_> generali there is a problem with video in linux :|
[05:59] <Alarm> it turns black ? u should do that while u are on console
[05:59] <Alarm> kdm has nothing to do with console. terminal doesnt need kdm to run
[06:00] <Narf> Alarm: I changed to textmode ctr+alt+F1 and wrote sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:00] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:01] <Narf> as soon as I pressed enter my screen is black and I can't do anything else then restart the system
[06:01] <Alarm> and the monitor turned black ? instead of telling "now stopping kdm" or something like that ?
[06:01] <cedross> having trouble connecting to a windows machine in my home network - can anyone help me
[06:01] <Alarm> thats something i hear for the first time
[06:01] <Narf> why is it always me ;o(
[06:02] <Narf> Alarm: I've also tryed to reinstall: also nno use same problem
[06:02] <Alarm> now i suppose u are on kde and its working
[06:02] <Narf>  bit version my gfx card doesn't work or at least I couldn't get it to work
[06:02] <Alarm> and when u try to shutdown , the monitor turns black and doesnt shutdown ?
[06:03] <Narf> Alarm:no shutdown workes fine
[06:04] <Narf> you know the funny thing is wen I start the conputer in safe /repair mode I can install the driver and everything works just fine untiol I restart
[06:05] <wolferine> morning
[06:06] <cedross> I can see  the windows shares but when I try to access them it tells me access is denied
[06:07] <wolferine> permissions
[06:07] <wolferine> or windows firewall
[06:08] <Narf> cedross: try to change the ownership of the folders chown name.group foldername
[06:08] <jd823592> hi all i have a serious problem at least for me..... i screwed up my grub menu.lst and forgot to make a buckup file ... is there any way how to make grub going
[06:08] <jd823592> *backup
[06:09] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:10] <jd823592> please is there anyone who can help me with the GRUB problem???
[06:10] <ubunturos> jd823592: !ask
[06:10] <NickPresta> !ask | jd823592
[06:10] <ubotu> jd823592: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:10] <Alarm> Narf,  sorry i had a phonecall
[06:11] <jd823592> i already did but....i messed up my menu.lst but didnt make any backup file is there any way how to generate new one or how can i find out for example UUID number of one of my partition
[06:13] <Alarm> Narf,  reinstall the drivers while u are on kde, and restart ur computer
[06:13] <jd823592> i tried to repair it but now when i try to boot my other UBUNTU on the second partition it says FILE DOESN'T EXIST or something like that
[06:13] <NickPresta> jd823592, `cat /etc/fstab` in the console
[06:14] <RandMC_> I have a question.
[06:14] <jd823592> ooo thx
[06:14] <jd823592> but there is another problem
[06:14] <BluesKaj> !ask | RandMC_,
[06:14] <ubotu> RandMC_,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <jd823592> i supposed that the problem was that i had the UUID wrong but its correct
[06:15] <jd823592> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:15] <jd823592> root		(hd0,1)
[06:15] <jd823592> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=6532e4dd-f757-4384-94af-2cb4d0ea2d18 ro quiet splash
[06:15] <jd823592> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[06:15] <jd823592> quiet
[06:15] <jd823592> savedefault
[06:15] <RandMC_> Amarok is not working when trying to install mp3 support, what other music player is like Amarok? It should run like itunes.
[06:15] <jd823592> Rhythmbox
[06:16] <RandMC_> ok I will search the repository for Rhythmbox.
[06:16] <Jucato> RandMC_: er.. just simply install "libxine-extracodecs"
[06:16] <Jucato> no need to install Rhythmbox
[06:17] <eriefisher> Amorok is best- Rythmbox wont help a codec problem
[06:17] <Alarm> RandMC_,  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly maybe also
[06:17] <Jucato> worse, you'll have to install even more codecs
[06:17] <Alarm> and what Jucato  just mentioned : http://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[06:17] <jd823592> i'm sry i just replied about what is similar not what would solve it sry
[06:17] <BluesKaj> RandMC_, did yo try to play a mp3, usually trying to play one will trigger the the install mp3 support option
[06:17] <RandMC_> I will look for libxine-Extracodecs in the repository.
[06:18] <jd823592> NickPresta: dont you know what might be the problem?
[06:18] <RandMC_> The Application freezes before I can run it.
[06:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:18] <sivaji> hi BluesKaj Jucato
[06:18] <RandMC_> Run the install.
[06:19] <Jucato> hi sivaji
[06:19] <BluesKaj> the libxine-extracodecs should do the trick, RandMC_
[06:19] <NickPresta> jd823592, I don't know how to diagnose the problem without more information
[06:19] <Jucato> RandMC_: just install that libxine-extracodecs package and you'll be able to play mp3 and avi
[06:19] <BluesKaj> hi sivaji
[06:19] <RandMC_> thanks I will try that out.
[06:20] <jd823592> NickPresta: how can i find out what exactly is supposed to be in initrd and kernel line??
[06:20] <jd823592> what kind of information would help you
[06:21] <premier_> Hi, I'm trying to get my laptop to suspend and hibernate correctly.  It suspended and resumed correctly once but now it doesn't display the screen when it comes out of suspend... this is with the fglrx drivers.  Is this a know issue?
[06:22] <jriachi> premier_: it also happens to me, but seems to work correctly again after 10 mins :S
[06:22] <RandMC_> I am going to try it out already downloaded and installed.
[06:22] <premier_> jriachi: are you serious?
[06:22] <sivaji_> is it possible to enable hibernate in kubuntu
[06:23] <sivaji_> !hibernate
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <premier_> sivaji_: it should be by default, its just some computers don't want to
[06:23] <premier_> !power saving
[06:23] <jriachi> premier_: completly serious... i discovered it, one day i wake it up and went to the shower... and discovered that it was working
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power saving - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <sivaji_> ho uboat down
[06:24] <jriachi> (FujistuSiemens amilo laptop -  nvidia-glx drivers)
[06:24] <RandMC_> It works thank you so much.
[06:24] <premier_> hmmmm... yours is different, so theres still some hope
[06:24] <sivaji_> premier_ i had that option when i am using livecd but i dont know how to enable
[06:25] <premier_> sivaji_: hibernate?  Just go to the K Menu and select log out... then select hibernate
[06:25] <RandMC_> got to go. thanks so much.
[06:25] <jd823592> any suggestion how to remake grub to work ... i have no backup and i want to make it work
[06:27] <sivaji_> i dont find that i could see only four option 1)end session 2)turn off 3)restart 4)cancel
[06:27] <sivaji_> jd823592 yes
[06:28] <NickPresta> jd823592, I can post you my grub, which is pretty vanilla. You would obviously have to change the location as I doubt our setups are identical
[06:28] <blekos> how can i stop the X from running for gnome is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:28] <sivaji_> jd823592 u can boot from cd i got that image iso file
[06:28] <blekos> how is for kde?
[06:28] <Alarm> kdm
[06:28] <Alarm> :)
[06:28] <blekos> lol
[06:28] <NickPresta> blekos, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm
[06:28] <blekos>  thnx
[06:28] <Alarm> blekos,  before doing that
[06:28] <jd823592> please post yours
[06:29] <Alarm> hmm i wasnt fast enough hehe, wanted to tell him to alt+ctrl+f1 hehe
[06:29] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:29] <BluesKaj> !power
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Alarm> !i'vegotthepower
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i'vegotthepower - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <jd823592> i have another question ... is it possible to have more than 4 partitions?
[06:29] <Alarm> jd823592,  yes
[06:29] <Alarm> logical drives
[06:29] <Alarm> and extented
[06:29] <NickPresta> jd823592, you need to use extended partitions. 4 primary partitions is the max, IIRC
[06:30] <jd823592> what difference is between LOG and PRIM?
[06:30] <Alarm> you mean logical and extented
[06:30] <sivaji_> jd823592  http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso u can boot linux if u have this
[06:30] <NickPresta> jd823592, you may also want to look at this: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
[06:30] <Alarm> if i am not wrong, a primary partition can be bootable, a logical not
[06:31] <Alarm> jd823592,  after u create an extented you can use many logical drives in it
[06:31] <Arwen> gah, wtf, ati f***ed my system up...
[06:31] <NickPresta> Arwen, what seems to be the problem?
[06:31] <Arwen> now one of my display's resolutions is locked at 1024x768.... wtf?
[06:32] <NickPresta> Arwen, do you have the correct drivers for your graphics card?
[06:32] <Alarm> Arwen,  maybe in xorg there arent higher resolutions listed
[06:32] <Arwen> NickPresta, yes yes yes...
[06:32] <Alarm> have u checked that ?
[06:32] <Arwen> Alarm, no, all the resolutions are listed, and I can change to them, but the monitor still displays in 1024x768
[06:32] <Arwen> the contents are just scrolled off...
[06:32] <Alarm> i must admit i had also the same problem, that my system denied in going to a proper refresh rate
[06:33] <Alarm> have u tried to reconfigure xserver ?
[06:33] <jd823592> i have no idea what does it mean ...LOGIAL DRIVE ... what is the difference ... i need to have WINPART LINPART1 LINPART2 SWAP DATA-FAT32PART which of them can be LOgical
[06:33] <Arwen> Alarm, yes
[06:33] <Arwen> I've reconfigured xorg, replaced xorg.conf with an original, but nothing works
[06:33] <NickPresta> Arwen, have you upgraded your kernel recently?
[06:33] <Arwen> no
[06:33] <Arwen> this a recent problem
[06:33] <Alarm> have u tried changing the resolution also from nvidia tool ?
[06:33] <afaith> hello people
[06:34] <Arwen> I don't have nvidia.......
[06:34] <Alarm> add for example in there a new resolution
[06:34] <Alarm> ohh sorry , i didnt pay much attention
[06:34] <Arwen> that's why I said ati screwed my system over..
[06:34] <afaith> i've asked this question on the #mplayer, but no answer :(
[06:34] <afaith>  i've downloaded a movie from youtube and converted into avi file. now i wanna extract the mp3 file from that avi file. i've done a little google job on this and i've discovered this command : mplayer -vo null -nogui -ao pcm audio.wav -aofile movie.avi , but it keeps telling me that -aofile is deprecated and tells me to use -ao pcm:file=<filename> instead. i' confused.. what do you suggest me to do ?
[06:35] <Arwen> afaith, use mencoder
[06:35] <Alarm> Arwen,  could u please paste somewhere your xorg.conf
[06:35] <Arwen> http://pastebin.ca/572315
[06:35] <Arwen> I think fglrx is broken..
[06:35] <afaith> arwen, i'm haven't used mplayer neither mencoder to do such a thinks
[06:36] <afaith> i use mplayer to play the files that vlc doesn't wanna open
[06:36] <Arwen> afaith,.... shut up. If you want to extract the audio, use mencoder. I'm not going to waste more time discussing it
[06:36] <ageroh> Sorry everyone but kubuntu's apt-get or i dont know who invented is GENIUS!
[06:36] <NickPresta> Arwen, using pastebin, post the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your actual xorg.conf
[06:36] <ageroh> OH GOD!!!!
[06:37] <Arwen> http://pastebin.ca/572316
[06:37] <afaith> hey... arwen, dude, chillout! if you wanna help me, ok if not... thats your problem
[06:37] <Arwen> afaith, sorry, I'm having a lot of problems myself right now
[06:37] <afaith> you don't have to be so ... stiff
[06:37] <afaith> Arwen: tell me more, maybe i can help you
[06:38] <Alarm> Arwen,  did you try to set ur monitor as a generic one ?
[06:38] <Arwen> my monitors are broken. ATI killed them.
[06:38] <Arwen> Alarm, that's an original vanilla xorg.conf
[06:38] <Arwen> unmodified
[06:39] <Alarm> yes, i asked if you set ur monitor as a generic one if it works like that on a proper resolution for you
[06:39] <afaith> dude :| that sucks ... are you sure that ATI killed it ? it might be a problem from the plug or too many volts
[06:39] <Arwen> Alarm, I haven't set up anything
[06:39] <ubuntu__> cand anyone help me with cedega
[06:40] <SenS3> can anyone help me with cedega
[06:40] <NickPresta> Arwen, do you not want your composite extension to be enabled?
[06:40] <SenS3> i have the cvs version
[06:40] <Arwen> NickPresta, no I don't, because I have ATI
[06:40] <Alarm> Arwen,  i dont see either in ur xorg.conf the     HorizSync  VertRefresh   listed. i dont know if that matters
[06:41] <Arwen> Alarm, it doesn't, I have an LCD
[06:42] <SenS3> can i run quake 4 on kubuntu 7?
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: yes
[06:43] <SenS3> wine or cedega :) i am a beginner in linux
[06:44] <jtmoney> neither
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: actually, I think there is a native port
[06:44] <SenS3> really :)
[06:44] <ageroh> many many many THANKS to all tou developers OUT THERE for creating such beautiful things!!! Goodbye to all.
[06:44] <crocodile> cedega costs you money..
[06:44] <SenS3> i can compile from cvs
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: yeah, I know there was a port of quake3
[06:45] <afaith> SenS3: you really should try cedege .. even if it's a bit expensive, it's really very good and works with a lot of games
[06:46] <SenS3> can i suffer a loss of framerate
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[06:46] <SenS3> 10x
[06:48] <ChaosMachine> Uh, is there a "Trash" somewhere that I need to empty? I keep deleteing large files and its not making a diffrence on my disk space.
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: yes, try ~/.local/trash
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> sorry, ~/.local/share/Trash
[06:49] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:51] <ChaosMachine> There they are, Thank you. :)
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> kain__: is the external HD NTFS?
[06:52] <kain__> it has some files from a win machine on it that i was backing up
[06:52] <ChaosMachine> It still says my hard drive is full, though. >.>
[06:53] <kain__> but i don't think i formatted it... it would mount before i backed up everything from my win desktop to it but i couldn't save files to it now it won't mount at all
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: how did you remove that file?
[06:53] <kain__> but both the ext hd and the sd card reader work on a win machine
[06:53] <ChaosMachine> nosrednaekim: using rm command from the shell.
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: ok, cause if you just said delete from konqueror....lol, i'd probably go right back to trash
[06:54] <crocodile> How do I make Kopete show ICQ names instead of numbers?  It says I have to use an address book, the address book setting says its using KAaddressBook, but I dn't see any settings regarding ICQ names
[06:54] <ChaosMachine> Haha, I figured. I think it may have acually worked. Before I didnt have enough space to start firefox. Now I do.
[06:54] <kain__> brb nos
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> kain__: plug it in and then look at the end of "dmesg"
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> ok
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> what does disk space have to do with being able to start FF?
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ...not enough space for the disk cache, probably
[06:56] <ChaosMachine> Daisuke_Ido: it creates a few things in /tmp.
[06:56] <kain__> brb
[06:56] <kain__> the end of dmesg?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> kain__: yes, run that command and look for errors
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that makes sense
[06:57] <crocodile> How do I make Kopete show ICQ names instead of numbers?  It says I have to use an address book, the address book setting says its using KAaddressBook, but I dn't see any settings regarding ICQ names
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: #kopete
[06:58] <crocodile> sorry thankks
[06:59] <SenS3> why in my kopete yahoo messenger list it shows only the ids which begin with a?
[06:59] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, for one, your bookmark backups, your session and download data are all modified (and use more space) when you use Firefox. If you have no more disk space, you have a problem...
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> do you have an "a" in the search bar?
[07:01] <SenS3> no
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> got that, didn't really need it elaborated upon, but thanks for playing anyway
[07:01] <SenS3> on other id with less ids i don't have this problem
[07:02] <Pollywog> anyone here run Linux on the same machine as DesktopBSD, I am having trouble because two out of three times, I was unable to boot Linux after installing BSD
[07:02] <Pollywog> I think maybe it is because Linux is in an extended partition
[07:04] <Pollywog> the first time I tried it kubuntu was in a primary partition and I could boot into either OS
[07:04] <draik> How do I play streaming audio with firefox. I keep getting an error
[07:04] <kain__> nos: when the window with "what to do pops up" and i select simpletech ext hd i get this error
[07:04] <kain__> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[07:04] <Pollywog> draik: mplayer plugin?
[07:05] <Pollywog> but maybe you have codecs missing?
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> kain__: oh....hmm... maybe you don't have permissions?
[07:06] <draik> Pollywog: I have it. Won't play. Let me get you the error message
[07:06] <kain__> ok how would i give myself permissions
[07:06] <kain__> in dmesg i don't see errors
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: Totem could not play 'mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg'.
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: That is the error message I get. Firefox opens Totem and I get that error message
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: That is the error message I get. Firefox opens Totem and I get that error message
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> kain__: what does dmesg give you?
[07:08] <kain__> hold on let me pastebin it
[07:09] <draik> Pollywog: Can you see if you can play it?
[07:09] <kain__> nos: http://pastebin.com/930765
[07:09] <Pollywog> k
[07:09] <draik> Pollywog: Thank you.
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> kain__: ok run this command "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[07:11] <Pollywog> I thought xmms was installed, I am finishing that now
[07:12] <crocodile> is it possible to make audacious/xmms or whatever mp3 player NOT appear in the taskbar when it's open?
[07:12] <draik> Pollywog: You or me? I have XMMS installed.
[07:12] <crocodile> I want to either add play controls to the taskbar, or cllick the quicklaunch link to make it appear
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: use amarok, in which case it goes to the, i forget what its called..the panel thats not part ofthe taskbar
[07:14] <kain__> nos: ok entered pass now at command line again
[07:14] <Pollywog> draik it complains I do not have the codec
[07:15] <Pollywog> totem xdoes
[07:15] <Pollywog> totem complains
[07:15] <crocodile> nos - I really dn't like amarok, it's too big and the small player is too ugly (and also doesnt have an open button)
[07:15] <draik> Pollywog: What codec(s) do I need?
[07:16] <Pollywog> now it asked if I want to install a codec and I said yes
[07:16] <draik> What codec?
[07:16] <kain__> nos: don't see it
[07:17] <kain__> kain@kain-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:17] <kain__> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[07:17] <kain__> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> kain__: navigate to /mnt
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> well, go to /mnt then
[07:17] <SenS3> crocodile try kaffeine
[07:17] <Pollywog> totem says I do not have permission to open the file
[07:17] <kain__> sats i don't have access rights
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> I have to go... sorry kain__
[07:18] <draik> Pollywog: I found something online with Totem being the issue. Its not about codecs, it's about the transfer of the file from the net.
[07:18] <Pollywog> oic
[07:18] <draik> Pollywog: How do I set mplayer as default over Totem?
[07:18] <Pollywog> draik: kubuntu?
[07:18] <draik> Yes
[07:19] <draik> 6.10
[07:19] <Pollywog> go to Konqueror file associations
[07:19] <kain__> how do i give myself access rights to /mnt
[07:19] <Pollywog> in Konqueror config
[07:19] <Pollywog> and move mplyer up the list for the file type
[07:19] <draik> Pollywog: I'm using firefox 2.0.0.4
[07:19] <Pollywog> oh
[07:19] <Pollywog> I do not recall how to change that in Firefox
[07:20] <SenS3> does somebody use swiftfox
[07:20] <SenS3> ?
[07:20] <draik> Pollywog: Do I just uninstall totem-mozilla?
[07:20] <nostferka> Are creative soundcards supported?
[07:20] <Pollywog> no I think you edit a file in your Firefox config to change the file association
[07:20] <SenS3> yes i have a creative live
[07:20] <voidmage> Where can I configure my touchpad for things like hot corners?
[07:24] <crocodile> how do I disable single click in kopete? (I want double click to open a new message window not double), and how do I have kopete not appear in the taskbar?
[07:25] <crocodile> I mean *not single click
[07:25] <VI_Lenin> Hi people! Can you please tell me if latest kubuntu includes NTFS-3G?
[07:26] <nostferka> how do i access the device manager?
[07:27] <_4str1> nostferka: ?
[07:27] <kain__> he left
[07:32] <papa> hi
[07:33] <Karti> Hi all, are there any graphic disk drive warning software available for Kubuntu? Many thanks
[07:33] <Rami_> I need immediate help
[07:35] <Rami_> i tried to install kubuntu 7.04 by synaptic in original ubuntu 7.04
[07:35] <Rami_> but instead i only got all the applications,
[07:35] <Rami_> i never got KDE
[07:35] <Karti> Rami_: You can install it through the terminal
[07:35] <papa> hi rami - made the same experience
[07:35] <Rami_> how?
[07:35] <Karti> Rami_: something like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:35] <Rami_> ok
[07:35] <Karti> let me look again..
[07:35] <papa> yes!
[07:35] <Rami_> access denied....
[07:35] <papa> i've got a nvidia-graphic-card (sorry my englih)
[07:36] <Karti> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <Karti> You need to do it as root
[07:36] <papa> nvidia 6200 ... isn't supported yet
[07:36] <Rami_> now!
[07:36] <Rami_> :D
[07:36] <Karti> Has that done it?
[07:36] <Rami_> almost
[07:37] <Rami_> -.-
[07:37] <Rami_> i'll just request a CD
[07:37] <Karti> That is how I do it for the Ubuntu server, it actually tells you how.....great eh!
[07:37] <Rami_> :O
[07:37] <Karti> it is about 300Mb
[07:38] <papa> "kubuntu" tells me to install a new nvidia-driver - ... after that i get the message, that it isnt supported
[07:38] <Karti> You should be able to do it from the cd unless it is just a Ubuntu basic disk
[07:38] <Rami_> maybe it was because i chose gdm
[07:38] <Rami_> instead of kdm.....
[07:38] <Rami_> i have the ubuntu disk downstairs
[07:38] <Rami_> you mean that i can install it from there?
[07:38] <Karti> papa: I did the same for my carad. It worked fine, allowed me to use Beryl
[07:39] <Karti> Rami_: Yes, it selects the disk as one of its repositories
[07:39] <Rami_> w8w8w8w8
[07:39] <crocodile> how do I check disk usage?
[07:39] <Rami_> i'm 13 years old and swedish, i dont understand everything. explain it easier thanks:P
[07:39] <Karti> crocodile: df -l me thinks
[07:40] <papa> hmmmm ....
[07:40] <crocodile> seems that someting is using all my space.hm.
[07:40] <Karti> crocodile: do this df -h
[07:41] <Karti> it will give you in in human form i.e MB
[07:41] <crocodile> hehe thanks
[07:41] <Karti> Rami_: have you knome set up?
[07:41] <Karti> oops gnome
[07:41] <crocodile> 6.1 used of 6.5.. man that filled up quickly
[07:41] <Rami_> on where?
[07:41] <Rami_> the cd?
[07:42] <Karti> no your PC
[07:42] <Rami_> yes
[07:42] <Rami_> i'm using gnome
[07:42] <Rami_> for now
[07:42] <Karti> I don't remember well but if you go to add/remove programs
[07:43] <Karti> are you on broadband?
[07:43] <Rami_> no, wireless
[07:43] <Karti> but wireless broadband?
[07:43] <Rami_> but its quite fast
[07:43] <Rami_> yes, kindA
[07:44] <Karti> I would really recommend sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop as it only takes about 5 minutes
[07:44] <Rami_> ok
[07:44] <Karti> I don't have the time to discuss the cd way...as I have to go in a minute
[07:44] <Rami_> me too
[07:44] <crocodile> what can I use to show where the majority of myy space iis being used up?
[07:44] <Rami_> never worked
[07:44] <Karti> Yu can view it visually
[07:45] <Rami_> trying with synaptic while i'm away....
[07:45] <papa> thanks i try again ...  ;-)
[07:45] <Karti> crocodile: System Settings > Advanced > Disk and File Systems
[07:46] <kain__> how do i get access to /mnt
[07:46] <crocodile> karti - whats the kde equivalent?
[07:46] <Karti> kain__: from a terminal type /mnt
[07:46] <crocodile> er nvm
[07:48] <kain__> how do i get it permenantly
[07:48] <kain__> like through the GUI
[07:48] <kain__> i am the only user on this pc
[07:48] <Rami_> i'm requestong a CD instead.
[07:48] <kain__> can i just be root all the time
[07:48] <Karti> just open Konqueror and view /mnt
[07:49] <Karti> The whole security issue is that you only use root to do stuff not use it in normal use
[07:49] <kain__> ok
[07:49] <Karti> crocodile: konsole
[07:50] <Rami_> nah, i have the CD downstairs, reinstalling when i get home,
[07:50] <kain__> when i view mnt it says i don't have access rights
[07:50] <kain__> through konqueror
[07:51] <crocodile> I found all my space...
[07:51] <crocodile> .xsession-errors is over 3 gigs big
[07:51] <Rami_> bye!
[07:51] <Karti> You should be able to see it....does your cdrom not automount?
[07:53] <Karti> Must dash....see you later
[07:55] <Arwen> in a dual-head setup, is it possible to get different wallpapers on each head?
[07:56] <crocodile> guys .xsession-errors in my home dir is 3.3 gigs big
[07:56] <crocodile> I need it a) gone and b) to see why
[07:56] <Arwen> crocodile, to see why, run "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[07:57] <Arwen> to get rid of it, "rm -f ~/.xsession-errors"
[07:57] <crocodile> the weird thing is I rm- f'd it already
[07:58] <crocodile> I'll try a logout
[07:58] <Arwen> crocodile, it gets regenerated at logon
[07:58] <Arwen> crocodile, you need to fix what's causing 3.3gb worth of errors
[07:58] <crocodile> indeed
[07:58] <crocodile> that's next step once I see if it's gone in a minute
[07:58] <crocodile> brb
[08:01] <bjwebb> hello?
[08:01] <sully> hallo
[08:01] <bjwebb> yay
[08:01] <bjwebb> my internet works :D
[08:01] <bjwebb> stupid winmodem is finally doing something
[08:01] <bjwebb> eciadsl :S
[08:02] <sully> eine frag kennt ihr euch aus ? wi e bekomme ich java in firefox?
[08:03] <Dannilion> I wish my internet would work
[08:03] <bjwebb> but my konqueror is not working :S
[08:04] <Dannilion> Anyone got a SymbianOS phone to work with Kubuntu before for net access?
[08:06] <deichgraf> re
[08:07] <bjwebb> how do i login to IRC using my password protected user name on Konversation?
[08:09] <bjwebb> ?
[08:09] <Dragnslcr> There should be settings for nickserv identification
[08:09] <bjwebb> im just not sure where they are
[08:11] <Dragnslcr> It's part of the Identity settings
[08:11] <bjwebb> autoidentify?
[08:11] <Sanne> bjwebb: file->server list, edit freenode server, edit default identity, there you can put in the nickserv password.
[08:11] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[08:12] <Dragnslcr> Service is usually "nickserv"
[08:12] <arkanabar> Anyone know if the Nvidia 1.0-9639 64 bit binary supports the GeForce 7100GS GPU?
[08:12] <bjwebb> doesn't seem to be working
[08:13] <crocodile> whatever caused 3 gigs of X error logs was fixed by a reboot
[08:14] <Sanne> arkanabar: here's the readme, find Appendix A for a list of cards: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9639/README/README.txt
[08:16] <crocodile> in this screenshoot: http://www.winboard.org/forum/imagehosting/10482452b9130e353c.png  the lower right screen has all those system stats, what does that?
[08:17] <arkanabar> Sanne:  GeForce 7100 isn't in either list.
[08:18] <bjwebb> hi, anyone here able to help me with eciadsl?
[08:18] <ntskoeln> crocodile: superkaramba
[08:19] <Sanne> arkanabar: then I don't know, sorry
[08:20] <crocodile> awesome thanks nts
[08:22] <Arwen> gah, xinerama is fugly
[08:22] <Sick2Deaf> oh yes ^
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> I spent ages setting up dual monitor with an ati card
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> never buying ati again
[08:23] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah... and I get the feeling one of my displays is *still* using the wrong AR
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> I had a few problems with refresh rates but that was my own fault
[08:24] <Arwen> my refresh rate is locked at 34Hz... I wonder why..
[08:24] <Sick2Deaf> tux racer displays on both monitors and stretches 1024x768 on my 1440x900 :s
[08:25] <Arwen> I won't even try games... 2560x1024 will kill my system
[08:26] <Sick2Deaf> Thats why i kept my xp partition :P
[08:26] <nitro4ce> hi
[08:26] <nitro4ce> i need some help with advancemenu
[08:26] <nitro4ce> i can't start it
[08:27] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah, dual-head works great in Windows... *mumble* fscking ati *mumble*
[08:28] <crocodile> why oh why wouldn't they put an 'open' button in amarok mini
[08:29] <Sick2Deaf> I have mates with intel and nvidia chipsets and theres worked fine :@
[08:29] <Sick2Deaf> it took me a week
[08:30] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeh, I had to revert from fglrx back to radeon... and so I only have direct rendering on the first 2048x2048 pixels..
[08:30] <Arwen> and my refresh rate still sucks
[08:30] <Sick2Deaf> ow
[08:31] <Sick2Deaf> I'm using fglrx atm
[08:31] <Sick2Deaf> It works . . . for now
[08:31] <Arwen> yeh, so now I have my extra screen space... only 3d doesn't work and windows spawn in weird places
[08:32] <Sick2Deaf> haha
[08:32] <Sick2Deaf> same
[08:33] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah... and I'd like to be able to use separate wallpapers on each head... only that doesn't seem to work
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> Alot of the programs I have installed seem to draw the window realtive to the screen so i get some very strange looking apps
[08:33] <Arwen> so I'm manually editing and gluing stuff together
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> I have a bit of a work around for that
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> ye thats what i do :P
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> works a charm
[08:33] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah, only... GIMP doesn't spawn right either :-P
[08:33] <Arwen> go figure?
[08:35] <tino_> hi
[08:35] <arkanabar> None of my OpenGL screensavers work.
[08:35] <bob_> hey
[08:35] <tino_> ci sono italiani , ho bisogno di fare domande a qualcuno che mi capisce
[08:36] <bob_> arkanabar, open a konsole and type glxgears
[08:36] <Arwen> arkanabar, do you have 3d rendering?
[08:36] <arkanabar> Arwen, I have no idea how to find out.
[08:36] <bob_> arkanabar, open a konsole and type glxgears
[08:36] <arkanabar> bob_, got "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[08:37] <bob_> ok, what's ur vid card?
[08:37] <arkanabar> Geforce 7100
[08:37] <bob_> ok
[08:37] <bob_> open Adept
[08:37] <Arwen> arkanabar, you need to install some drivers then
[08:38] <bob_> and type nvidia-glx-new
[08:38] <Sick2Deaf> tea time
[08:38] <bob_> on the search field
[08:38] <arkanabar> bob_, no results -- I'm running 64bit, btw.
[08:39] <bob_> no worries thatls what Im running here
[08:39] <bob_> u need to enable the universe repos
[08:40] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[08:40] <bob_> once Adept is running
[08:40] <arkanabar> I have show checked next to both unsupported and proprietary
[08:40] <bob_> did you edit your sources.list?
[08:40] <arkanabar> Don't think so..... how would I do that?
[08:41] <bob_> never mind just asking
[08:41] <bob_> so, u r telling us that if u type nvidia on adept nothing comes as results?
[08:42] <arkanabar> multimedia:  Nvtv TV Out.  System:  NVidia binary X.Org driver (checked)
[08:42] <bob_> is that all?
[08:43] <arkanabar> ......... System:  NVidia binary X.Org 'legacy' driver.  And that's it.
[08:43] <bob_> humm
[08:43] <bob_> gimme a sec
[08:44] <bob_> r u running Feisty?
[08:44] <arkanabar> Yes.
[08:44] <bob_> k
[08:44] <arkanabar> Pretty much virgin install, at that.
[08:44] <crocodile> aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:45] <bob_> make sure that the Restricted repos are enabled
[08:45] <bob_> within Adept, click on "Adept" on the upper left corner
[08:45] <arkanabar> How do I do that, again?  Still very new to Ubuntu....
[08:45] <bob_> and choose Manage Repositories
[08:45] <bob_> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:46] <arkanabar> kubuntu.  And the only thing in the Adept menu in UL corner is "quit"
[08:46] <bob_> ok, lets do sumthing
[08:47] <bob_> open a konsole
[08:47] <bob_> and type
[08:47] <WilHelm-> I'm playing.  !gameinfo for more info.
[08:48] <bob_> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <crocodile> why dont you just have him aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:48] <bob_> and remove the # sign from the lines that start with the word "deb"
[08:48] <crocodile> if it shows up he's goodto go
[08:49] <bob_> because the restricted repo is no enabled
[08:49] <bob_> jhe will find nthing
[08:49] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[08:49] <bob_> nothing*
[08:49] <Arwen> aww.... xinerama won't let me play video on both heads at once..
[08:50] <arkanabar> bob_, as far as I can tell, only the backport repos are commented out.
[08:50] <crocodile> type aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:51] <bob_> he needs the "new" one
[08:51] <kristjan_> How do I traceroute?
[08:51] <crocodile> type traceroute host ^_^
[08:51] <bob_> on Adept if he types nvidia only the legacy driver will show up
[08:52] <bene> whats the command to check your graphics card
[08:52] <arkanabar> bob_, I get both the legacy and the current xorg drivers -- current is installed.
[08:52] <namelesss> hi
[08:52] <namelesss> how can i install the kde desktop ?
[08:52] <namelesss> i'm under gnome
[08:52] <arkanabar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[08:52] <arkanabar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[08:52] <crocodile> arkanabor - type sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[08:53] <crocodile> arkanabor - type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:53] <Arwen> namelesss, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <Arwen> or apt-get install kde-core
[08:53] <arkanabar> are both uncommented...
[08:53] <namelesss> Arwen, but i don't want all utilities
[08:53] <bene> what he said
[08:53] <Arwen> namelesss, then apt-get install kde-core
[08:53] <arkanabar> crocodile, will that work with feisty 64?
[08:53] <namelesss> ok
[08:53] <namelesss> thx
[08:53] <crocodile> ark - u can answer it by trying
[08:53] <bob_> ok, do me a favor arkanabar, in the konsole type, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell us the info displayed under "Device"
[08:53] <bene> whats the command to check your graphics card
[08:54] <Arwen> bene, there isn't one. But you can usually figure it out using lspci.
[08:54] <crocodile> arkanabar:   maybe not.. don't risk it for a minute
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> this line
[08:55] <DarkWizzard>   connect(tableWid,SIGNAL(cellChanged(int,int)),this,SLOT(saveSchedule()));
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> does it mean
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> that if any cell will change
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> I mean content of any cell
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> then the signal will get emited ?
[08:56] <arkanabar> !pastebin > arkanabar
[08:57] <arkanabar> info under device at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26006/
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> DarkWizzard: the hex are you talking about?
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> what hex ?
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> connect(tableWid,SIGNAL(cellChanged(int,int)),this,SLOT(saveSchedule()));
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> this line
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> so
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> if
[08:58] <bob_> ok, replace "nv" by "nvidia" and save the file
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> right, i GOT that.  in WHAT?
[08:58] <pagan0ne> has anyone ever managed to get a package stuck in a state 1/2 way between installed and uninstalled in such a manner that it wont do either properly?
[08:58] <bob_> it should work
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> Any cell changes in a QTableWidget then will that signal get emited ?
[08:58] <arkanabar> lemme log & restart X
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> heck > hecks > hex.  i was being clever.
[08:58] <Arwen> pagan0ne, me
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> better to ask in #kde, we aren't devs.
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> oh :D
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> ok
[08:59] <Arwen> manually installing packages tends to cause that
[08:59] <pagan0ne> Arwen: how did you fixi t?
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> wrong channel again
[08:59] <Arwen> pagan0ne, dpkg -rf
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> this always happens
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> sorry
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> DarkWizzard: no worries
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> just had me a little confused
[08:59] <Arwen> pagan0ne, dpkg -r*
[08:59] <pagan0ne> Arwen: well i wouldnt have been manually installing the package except that ubuntu doesnt come with support for brother printers out of the box, and brother does provide debian packages
[09:00] <Arwen> pagan0ne, can you explain the level of b0rk4ge in your setup?
[09:00] <pagan0ne> Arwen: well its broke to the point where even dpkg -r and dpkg -r --force-all wont remove the package, i can do a pastbin of the output if you like
[09:01] <Arwen> pagan0ne, please do. Also, how many packages? any dependencies involved?
[09:01] <pagan0ne> Arwen: just one package, and no deps that i know of
[09:01] <xst> When kubuntu is installed for the first time, an xorg.conf file is automatically generated. How can I regenerate this after the install? (I want to completely display reset all changes I have made)
[09:01] <pagan0ne> Arwen: brscan2 its a package supplied by Brother
[09:01] <Arwen> pagan0ne, paste?
[09:02] <pagan0ne> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/572574
[09:02] <Arwen> one sec then
[09:03] <bob_> paganOne try typing on the konsole sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:03] <pagan0ne> bob_ tried that
[09:04] <Arwen> pagan0ne, hmm, you could just create the files/dirs that apt can't find. then it might work.
[09:04] <pagan0ne> Arwen: i tried that too
[09:05] <bob_> arkanabar, how was the result?
[09:05] <_Shade_> hey why i can't use my country specific chars in kubuntu?
[09:06] <_Shade_> I had these some time ago but they dissapeared when i installed an xgl
[09:06] <Arwen> sorry, xinerama b0rk3d on me
[09:07] <_Shade_> i don't use it now but i am still unable to use these fonts
[09:07] <arkanabar> Well, I got the nvidia splash screen
[09:07] <bob_> perfect
[09:07] <kcg> hey there, i have just installed feisty agiain and there was an update on the kernel to 2.6.20-16 from 2.6.20-15
[09:08] <pagan0ne> Arwen: sok, no luck on touching all the missing files... i tried reinstalling over the orignal missing package, and it installs successfully over it, but still wont remove it
[09:08] <kcg> from the previous experience, there was a conflict when i updated the kernel last time
[09:08] <Arwen> pagan0ne, hmm
[09:08] <Arwen> no idea then, you could try asking #debian
[09:09] <kcg> and kubuntu didn't start at all, so wondering if anyone experienced the same problem at all
[09:10] <bob_> do you have acceleration already arkanabar?
[09:13] <pagan0ne> bob_ got it fixed, the method of mkdir and touching files fixed it, i just forgot to touch one file it wanted
[09:13] <seckshooal> I can't find the program using dpkg to shut it down. Now I can't run anything using the pacakge manager, what should I do?
[09:16] <NickPresta> seckshooal, use `ps aux` and try and find the process that would be using it.
[09:19] <rollerskatejamms> How can I create a "folder" on the desktop in KDE that is actually a link to an FTP server
[09:19] <rollerskatejamms> Like in gnome I can access ftp as if it were on my local machine
[09:21] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, Right click on Desktop > Create New > Link to Location (URL). Fill in your FTP url and it should work just fine.
[09:21] <rollerskatejamms> NickPresta: tried that. it wont let me click ok
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> NickPresta: I dont want to link to a specific file
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> oh wait
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> i think i know what didnt work
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> yup
[09:22] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, the filename is just what you want the icon to be named
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> Yeah thats  the mistake I made
[09:23] <rollerskatejamms> Works fine now, thanks!
[09:23] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, oh, no problem. I'm glad you got it working :)
[09:24] <arkanabar> oop, sorry, bob_ ... not sure.  The bitmap flag is kind of steppy-looking.
[09:24] <rollerskatejamms> I'm slowly learning Ruby, but I'm never in once place for very long, so I just mount FTP "folders" and work on my code that way
[09:25] <sweettooth> does anyone have any problem upgrading the kernel from 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16?
[09:25] <ICM> Ugh, so basically I just installed Kubuntu on my IDE drive, which is the only one on the IDE Chain and I have Windows installed on a 120 GB SATA drive (the first partition)... basically I can't get GRUB to load from the IDE device, and the IDE device doesn't even show up in the BIOS, so how do I make my 10 GB IDE device with Linux boot up? I just tried booting the Kubuntu installer's LiveCD but for some reason when I try doing anything in
[09:25] <ICM> (like the 'check CD for errors' or the 'Start or Install Kubuntu') I get a terminal-type-thing saying "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a full list of built-in commands.    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off.
[09:25] <ICM> (sorry for the really long message)
[09:26] <NickPresta> sweettooth, no. I am using the latest kernel without any problems. The upgrade was successful.
[09:27] <sweettooth> NickPresta, hmm, ok, I will give it a shot again now and check if its ok
[09:27] <arkanabar> So how do I tell if I have 3d acceleration enabled?
[09:28] <NickPresta> sweettooth, what seems to be the problem?
[09:28] <ICM> And I not just an hour ago installed Linux using this Kubuntu CD, so
[09:28] <NickPresta> arkanabar, `glxinfo | grep direct`. You type that into a console.
[09:29] <NickPresta> arkanabar, if direct rendering = yes, you're good
[09:29] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I have tried install it before and after the update, it gave me some sort of update conflict, and when i restarted the pc, it was hung
[09:29] <NickPresta> sweettooth, I didn't have any problems. I don't know what could've caused yours. What was the conflict with?
[09:29] <sweettooth> NickPresta, since i didn't know how to roll back, i have just reinstalled kubuntu for the 2nd time
[09:30] <dc2448> Is there any reason not to run kpowersave on non laptops - I'm wanting my mythtv box to suspend when the power button is hit and resume when in suspend - kpowersave the way to go?
[09:31] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I forgot what it was conflicting with, but i will give it a second shot and see if it could update, btw, did you use Adept Updater to install the 2.6.20-16 kernel?
[09:31] <NickPresta> sweettooth, I use the console: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` to upgrade my system. The kernel update was one update available
[09:32] <ICM> IF anybody cares to help me, I'll be around
[09:33] <dsmith_> whats the preferred folder for backup?
[09:33] <dsmith_>    /home, /etc, /opt ??
[09:33] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I will try your way and see if it works first
[09:33] <sweettooth> thx a lot
[09:35] <dc2448> dsmith_: someprotocol://offiste/folder
[09:35] <rollerskatejamms> What do I change to change the window border style? I'm already using the Klearlook style but the window borders still look like plastik
[09:36] <dsmith_> dc2448: Opps, I meant. what are the preferred partitions to backup when moving to one to another
[09:36] <Lynoure> dsmith_: all that have data that you would be sad about losing...
[09:37] <phillip> hi
[09:37] <Lynoure> dsmith_: hard to say without knowing your system and what you use it for
[09:37] <dsmith_> Lynoure: ok, genrally speaking though, I am sure /home would be a good start
[09:38] <dsmith_> last time I tried this it farked the other system
[09:38] <dsmith_> I did /home, /var, /etc, /opt and a few others
[09:39] <phillip> i want to install gconf-common 2.16.0 - but kubuntu wants to install >> version 2.18.0.1 - how can I fix this problem
[09:39] <phillip> ?
[09:40] <Lynoure> dsmith_: sounds like enough for most people. I'm usually happy enough with /home and /etc on desktops, but I don't run databases on them or logs I need to keep, and usually not custom built software in /opt either
[09:42] <PABLO-VIVA> hello
[09:42] <dsmith_> Lynoure: ok, thanks. I install sbackup and it does /etc, /var, /home and /usr/local
[09:42] <phillip> i want to install gconf-common 2.16.0 - but kubuntu wants to install >> version 2.18.0.1 - how can I fix this problem?
[09:42] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[09:43] <PABLO-VIVA> Hi I'm Pablo from Argentina I was wondering where I could search if a bug already exists or otherwise report it
[09:43] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, i am sure the web is a better place to report a bug
[09:43] <ICM> Bah, no one here is helping
[09:43] <wolferine> ICM, issue?
[09:43] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: thanks but I could not find the webaddress of the kubuntu bugs reporting system
[09:44] <ICM> wolferine, its probably more of a hardware issue, but I installed Linux on a drive, and now the drive isn't showing up in the BIOS
[09:44] <ICM> Ugh, so basically I just installed Kubuntu on my IDE drive, which is the only one on the IDE Chain and I have Windows installed on a 120 GB SATA drive (the first partition)... basically I can't get GRUB to load from the IDE device, and the IDE device doesn't even show up in the BIOS, so how do I make my 10 GB IDE device with Linux boot up? I just tried booting the Kubuntu installer's LiveCD but for some reason when I try doing anything in
[09:44] <ICM> (like the 'check CD for errors' or the 'Start or Install Kubuntu') I get a terminal-type-thing saying "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a full list of built-in commands.    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off.
[09:44] <dsmith_> ICM: There are some really great books on Ubuntu
[09:44] <wolferine> its probably application specific though PABLO
[09:44] <dsmith_> ICM: I had that happen to me once before
[09:44] <ICM> Which? The HDD not showing up in the BIOS or the no tty thing happening in the LiveCD
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: I had to reinstall everything, unfortunately, but I used a live CD to pull everything off
[09:45] <wolferine> if its a KDE bug, your usually prompted to submit it
[09:45] <froud> I've installed evrything I can to try play SVCD but nothing helps. Anyone got some pointers?
[09:45] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I thought that was the case, but this relates to KDE in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn I did not have these problems in other linux distributiosn with KDE
[09:45] <ICM> O_o
[09:45] <ICM> But what about the problem of it not showing up in the BIOS
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: the busyb ox deal, my machine would not bot
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: the busyb ox deal, my machine would not botbot
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: boot
[09:45] <ICM> heh
[09:45] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, could you give a quick description of the bug?
[09:45] <ICM> Thats only with the LiveCD
[09:45] <ICM> I can't get it to boot into Ubuntu at all
[09:46] <ICM> just because the BIOS doesn't see the hdd
[09:46] <dsmith_> even on live cD?
[09:46] <ICM> correct, its with the live CD that I have the BusyBox error
[09:46] <dsmith_> strange
[09:46] <ICM> the LiveCD I used not two hours ago, too
[09:46] <ICM> its the Kubuntu Installer
[09:46] <wolferine> ICM
[09:46] <wolferine> so you installed linux
[09:46] <ICM> yes
[09:47] <wolferine> then your HD was missing in your BIOS?
[09:47] <ICM> yes
[09:47] <wolferine> those two events are unrelated
[09:47] <ICM> Thats what I was thinking
[09:47] <wolferine> pullout/reseed your IDE cables
[09:47] <ICM> its still really odd
[09:47] <ICM> okay
[09:47] <wolferine> and try a reboot
[09:47] <dsmith_> reseed, heh
[09:47] <PABLO-VIVA> well yeah
[09:48] <wolferine> PABLO?
[09:48] <PABLO-VIVA> The issue is this: in KDE in system tray yoou have all the virtual desktops displayed (defaulta are 4) but when I go to add new virtual desktops KDE shows I have only 1, and If I add three more in system tray apperas 16
[09:48] <joe4288> what do i need to download to beable to listen to all my windows music?
[09:48] <joe4288> like a windows codec?
[09:48] <erichj> real quick, how much ram is being used right now on your systems and how much is free?
[09:48] <wolferine> PABLO are you running beryl?
[09:48] <PABLO-VIVA> yeah
[09:49] <wolferine> its not a bug then
[09:49] <PABLO-VIVA> but it happens without beryl too
[09:49] <wolferine> oh?
[09:49] <wolferine> joe4288, google ubuntu guide
[09:49] <wolferine> joe, check the Edgy one, has a section on adding the proper codecs
[09:49] <joe4288> koo will do
[09:49] <wolferine> PABLO, no one else has this issue though
[09:49] <joe4288> but i think im running fiesty? (use to debian)
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: what do you mean by a windows codec?
[09:50] <wolferine> erichj, free
[09:50] <wolferine> joe4288, just read the Edgy documenation
[09:50] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I know I've been googling for this issue but I found nothing, I'll try again without beryl
[09:50] <joe4288> just codecs that let me run windows videos (i think wmv) stuff like that
[09:50] <ICM> sadly that didn't work
[09:50] <wolferine> implementation is the same for both FF and Edgy
[09:50] <PABLO-VIVA> and I'll let you know
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: ya
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: i believe so
[09:50] <ICM> Although this I think defies logic
[09:50] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, is the beryl-manager always running?
[09:50] <ICM> I'm going to make the drive slave.
[09:51] <ICM> IT could be so stupid, it works
[09:51] <erichj> i just rebooted and system monitor is already showing 833MB of ram in use. wtf
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> I made a symlink to .kde/Autostart
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> of my beryl-manager
[09:51] <wolferine> so its running all the time?
[09:51] <wolferine> maybe quit the manager, then see about adding desktops
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> yeah, but I'll try to remove the symlink and restart KDM
[09:51] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, also try #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> ok thanks a lot
[09:52] <wolferine> might have something to do with your cards drivers/KDE/Beryl
[09:52] <wolferine> but I am not 100% positive
[09:52] <NickPresta> erichj, memory relocation is expensive. You probably needed that memory for a brief moment - when you need it again, it will be freed up...
[09:52] <phillip_> hi
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> thanks again wolferine
[09:52] <wolferine> erichj, you can use top
[09:52] <wolferine> it will display used resources
[09:52] <wolferine> np PABLO
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> I'll try that and I'll be back in a minute
[09:53] <NickPresta> erichj, you will also want to check out `free` which shows how much memory is cached, how much in the buffers, etc
[09:53] <erichj> if i run sudo apt-get remove ruby will it tell me what application is depending on it?
[09:53] <wolferine> erichj, use aptitude
[09:54] <phillip_> hello, I'm new to ubuntu. I want to install gconf-common (version 2.16.0) but the apt-get-tool want's to install version 2.18.x. how can I fix this problem
[09:54] <phillip_> ?
[09:54] <NickPresta> erichj, use `apt-cache showpkg ruby` to see reverse dependencies
[09:54] <erichj> ok, amarok uses ruby
[09:54] <Arwen> NickPresta, or just apt-cache rdepends ...
[09:54] <NickPresta> Arwen, that works too. Thanks for reminding me.
[09:54] <damageDOne> Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can install kde themes in gnome so that kde apps like amarok are affected. In my case, I have ubuntustudio installed on gnome and amarok sticks out like a sore thumb. If I find a similar theme for kde can I install it so it affects kde apps? And if so, can someone tell me how?
[09:55] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[09:55] <wolferine> phillip, its called synaptic, in Gnome
[09:55] <wolferine> you can update to different versions, you can try via command line
[09:55] <Arwen> damageDOne, no, because KDE uses QT and GNOME uses GTK+
[09:55] <phillip_> wolferine: I'm using kde
[09:56] <wolferine> u said new to ubuntu, so I assumed
[09:56] <wolferine> but none the less, try to install via cli
[09:56] <BluesKaj> philip_ , usually the higher the version the number the newerand more suited to the kernel version you are using , unless there are some things lacking in the new app that older version provides.
[09:56] <damageDOne> Arwen: Yeah but can I install a kde theme in Qt and have it affect kde apps while I'm in gnome?
[09:56] <blekos> hi, i could really nead ur help, i tried to install the new nvidia driver and i messed up my system
[09:57] <blekos> i've used the envy utility, but now
[09:57] <blekos> only one core is recognized i think
[09:57] <blekos> how can i check it out
[09:57] <Arwen> damageDOne, yes
[09:57] <damageDOne> phillip_: Is it possible you read the advice that was for me and came here by mistake?
[09:57] <blekos> is there a way to restore the "default" kernel??/
[09:57] <Arwen> damageDOne, oh, but if it's a kwin theme, then no
[09:57] <damageDOne> Arwen: Okay. I have installed Qt but I don't see an "add theme" button or anything. How do you install new themes?
[09:58] <Arwen> damageDOne, you need kcontrol
[09:58] <Arwen> or qtconfig
[09:58] <damageDOne> Arwen: I guess I can install those in synaptic.
[09:58] <damageDOne> ?
[09:58] <Arwen> yeah, kcontrol is the entire control panel. qt3-qtconfig should let you tweak qt
[09:58] <BluesKaj> blekos, dump envy if your using feisty ...it's not satble and it breaks drivers for nvidia and ati both
[09:58] <damageDOne> Arwen: You say "kwin". Kwin as opposed to...?
[09:59] <Arwen> metacity. kwin themes would be window borders.
[09:59] <darkrift> anyone know how to use turboprint?
[09:59] <darkrift> i downloaded it cause it had my printer support
[09:59] <darkrift> but cant figure it out
[09:59] <blekos> hm, envy is the only reason i have a graphical environment for now
[09:59] <blekos> if i restart my pc i come back 2 zero
[09:59] <blekos> any suggestions?
[09:59] <damageDOne> Arwen: Ah. No worries. They wouldn't work anyway becuase I'm using Beryl. :)
[10:00] <Arwen> hehe, I can't use beryl since I have a dualhead setup :-\
[10:00] <Arwen> and ati.
[10:00] <darkrift> beryl is awesome
[10:00] <damageDOne> Arwen: I don't know about the dual head bit but I'm using Beryl and I have an ATI Radeon X1600. It works with xgl.
[10:00] <Arwen> yeah, but you can't use beryl with ati :-(
[10:01] <Arwen> damageDOne, I can only get direct rendering on the first head..
[10:01] <PABLO-VIVA> Hi again
[10:01] <damageDOne> Arwen: I am using Beryl with ATI
[10:01] <damageDOne> Arwen: Ah okay.
[10:01] <Arwen> damageDOne, yeah, but with Xgl. That doesn't count.
[10:01] <damageDOne> Arwen: ? why's that?
[10:01] <Arwen> Xgl sucks ass
[10:02] <coreymon77> ati is bad
[10:02] <coreymon77> they hate linux
[10:02] <coreymon77> and anything open source
[10:02] <damageDOne> Arwen:  in what way? Seriously. I'm not trying to argue I just don't know what you mean. It works well for me.
[10:02] <dsmith_> ATI sux0rs
[10:02] <coreymon77> use nvidia
[10:03] <crdlb> use intel
[10:03] <Arwen> damageDOne, it eats assloads of CPU time, has a huge memory footprint, and doesn't allow direct rendering.
[10:03] <dsmith_> NVidia Rox0rs my Box0rs
[10:03] <Arwen> that help?
[10:03] <coreymon77> dsmith_: thats enough
[10:03] <damageDOne> Arwen: I can't rip the card of my laptop that easily. When I upgrade I'll go with nvidia.
[10:03] <dsmith_> assloads... haha
[10:03] <Arwen> damageDOne, heh
[10:03] <damageDOne> Arwen: Yes it does. Thanks
[10:03] <blekos> is there a way to reinstall kernel?
[10:03] <Arwen> blekos, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r` ?
[10:04] <Arwen> why?
[10:04] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I tried without beryl and the desktop works fine, that was the problem
[10:04] <damageDOne> Arwen: Thanks for your help I'll try installing qt3-qtconfig or kcontrol or whatever and see if that helps. Cheers. :)
[10:04] <wolferine> ah
[10:04] <wolferine> cool
[10:05] <PABLO-VIVA> yeap I'll have to get used to it if I want to use beryl with my Kubuntu
[10:05] <PABLO-VIVA> :)
[10:05] <Cyrano> hi
[10:05] <Cyrano> what is the best dictionary solution for kubuntu
[10:05] <arkanabar> Ai yi yi!  I have nasty noises coming out of my headphones!
[10:05] <Cyrano> is there better english dictionaries than stardict?
[10:06] <Cyrano> are there
[10:06] <Cyrano> :)
[10:06] <Cyrano> pardon me
[10:06] <k3ks> hi, i've got a problem with the internet connection
[10:06] <Cyrano> i cant find what retronym mean in stardict
[10:06] <Cyrano> retronym?
[10:06] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks what is the problem?
[10:06] <arkanabar> retro = old, nym = name.
[10:07] <k3ks> if i visit a page two or more times with only short breaks, he laags
[10:07] <k3ks> he takes loooong time for loading it
[10:07] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: are you using konqueror?
[10:07] <blekos> could u tell me the command to configure the monitor
[10:07] <k3ks> no normaly i use firefox
[10:07] <k3ks> but i got the problem with konqueror too
[10:07] <Grant> are the OpenGL development files installed with Kubuntu?
[10:07] <k3ks> and with opera
[10:08] <WilHelm-> I'm back !!
[10:08] <erichj> where do i go to change the mouse theme?
[10:08] <PABLO-VIVA> have you tried using ping and traceroute to see how long do you take to visit a websiete?
[10:08] <arkanabar> I get really loud clicky-buzzy noises, sort of remind me of a rotary dialer, out of my onboard sound, using Feisty 64.  Anyone have a clue?
[10:09] <crube> I have a huge amount of .jpg files that for some reason no longer have .jpg in the end of the file name. Is there a way to rename a pile of files and add ".jpg" to the end of every one of them
[10:09] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I often have trouble with my internet provider but it's not kubuntu or any linux distro is the provider in fact
[10:09] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[10:09] <k3ks> in firefox he says the server is not reachable and konqueror says he has a timeout
[10:09] <coreymon77> k3ks: wireless?
[10:09] <k3ks> but i didn't heard that my brother or parents have problems like that
[10:09] <k3ks> no
[10:09] <k3ks> ethernet
[10:09] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: open a console and type ping <<url>> and see if the server answers you
[10:10] <k3ks> ~413ms
[10:11] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: any packet loos?
[10:11] <PABLO-VIVA> loss?
[10:11] <k3ks> 16%
[10:11] <ICM> wheee
[10:11] <ICM> thanks.
[10:11] <ICM> I gues
[10:11] <rollerskatejamms> Is there a good way to tell where Disk IO is coming from?
[10:12] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: is it always like that? always having trouble with your internet connection?
[10:13] <k3ks> PABLO-VIVA: yes
[10:13] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:13] <BongoBoy> hi all
[10:13] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I do not have idea on what's going on
[10:13] <k3ks> always if i trie toload a page twotimes quickly reapeated
[10:14] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: is it always with the same page or different pages?
[10:14] <k3ks> with every pages
[10:15] <rollerskatejamms> every time I open Konqueror my disk IO goes through the roof. wtf.
[10:15] <rollerskatejamms> any idea why
[10:16] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks:  hmmm open up a console and type traceroute <<url>> and see where does it stop reaching the pages, maybe the problem is in your internet provider's side
[10:16] <k3ks> k
[10:16] <wolferine> is that a permissions issue, do you think?
[10:16] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I'm sorry is traceroute6 the command
[10:16] <k3ks> k
[10:17] <k3ks> one second
[10:17] <crube> I have a huge amount of .jpg files that for some reason no longer have .jpg in the end of the file name. Is there a way to rename a pile of files and add ".jpg" to the end of every one of them
[10:17] <xst> Is it possible to make kwalletmanager *not* ask for a password when an application tries to access it? I would like it to be open always
[10:17] <wolferine> crube try bash scripting
[10:18] <crube> wolferine: I just dont know how to
[10:18] <wolferine> yes
[10:18] <wolferine> thats why you learn
[10:19] <k3ks> tracerout say unknown host
[10:19] <k3ks> but i can ping the host
[10:19] <k3ks> he also doesn't like the ip
[10:19] <k3ks> wierd
[10:19] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks:  hmmm dunno what's the problem
[10:19] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: it really is
[10:20] <darkrift> %M
[10:20] <yeniklasor> sudo ./xxx  Don't working. How can I work with root
[10:20] <k3ks> mabey it solves itself after a time
[10:20] <darkrift> su
[10:21] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I've tried myself doing a traceroute6 and I get what you get Unknown host
[10:21] <yeniklasor> execute xxx
[10:21] <crube> wolferine: I didn't have to. Krename did the trick
[10:21] <darkrift> su to root and then run it
[10:21] <k3ks> k
[10:21] <k3ks> thx for your helt
[10:22] <k3ks> help
[10:22] <yeniklasor> su: Authentication failure
[10:22] <k3ks> i have to go
[10:22] <k3ks> cya
[10:22] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: no problem
[10:22] <darkrift> su <root account name>
[10:22] <darkrift> then enter password
[10:22] <yeniklasor> oh OK
[10:23] <NickPresta> Why do you suggest su into root account and then running around as root? Why not use sudo for everything? god forbid you make a mistake when using rm or something
[10:23] <darkrift> because he said sudo wasnt working
[10:23] <darkrift> is there a better alternative?
[10:23] <darkrift> if so, please advise
[10:23] <wolferine> anyone, the nfs question?
[10:23] <darkrift> i saw nobody else chime in
[10:25] <ariane> hi. i just installed KDE on my ubuntu (i was with gnome before) and it is kind of buggy. sometimes, when i boot, i get all kind of error messages and they disappear so fast i can't even read them. and when i open an application, i don't see the reduced window on the board thing. is it normal or did i do something wrong while installing KDE?
[10:25] <wolferine> ariane, check dmesg
[10:25] <Arwen> ariane, it's normal for weird things to happen if you install KDE on top of GNOME
[10:26] <darkrift> thats what i heard
[10:26] <Arwen> but, go check your logs, we might be able to fix some of it
[10:26] <darkrift> which is why they have kubuntu i guess
[10:26] <ariane> so i should uninstall gnome?
[10:26] <Arwen> ariane, eh... that's kind of hard to do
[10:26] <MaTiAz> Hmm, KDevelop says "X libraries not found" when I try to run the configure for an example program. What package should I install?
[10:27] <fdoving> MaTiAz: xorg-dev
[10:27] <Arwen> MaTiAz, xorg-dev or x-dev
[10:27] <MaTiAz> Thanks
[10:28] <ariane> darkrift: i know i should have taken kubuntu but i had problems before with kde. uninstalled linux, reinstalled ubuntu 7.04 and i really missed kde (and amarok was taking so long to open) so i decided to switch back and here i am trying to work out how to fix bugs...
[10:30] <blekos> could u tell me how to reconfigure my monitor from the command line?
[10:30] <bene> I'm running Feisty 7.04 beta (i think). Would this have updated automatically thru apt, if i ran updates everytime needed? or do i need to update manually? if so how?
[10:30] <coreymon77> umm
[10:30] <coreymon77> why would you install kde over gnome
[10:30] <coreymon77> why not just do kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <coreymon77> that works fine doesnt it?
[10:31] <Arwen> coreymon77, that's probably what he meant?
[10:31] <ariane> well i installed kubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <coreymon77> well lets make sure
[10:31] <coreymon77> maybe he instaled actual kde
[10:31] <coreymon77> which will not work
[10:31] <ariane> i made sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <Arwen> KDE won't work? how lazy...
[10:31] <coreymon77> oh
[10:31] <ariane> it works. but it's buggy
[10:31] <coreymon77> Arwen: no, if you isntall the actual kde metapackage, it will not work
[10:31] <coreymon77> Arwen: kde doesnt like not having root
[10:33] <bene> Last time i updated, it was to 7.04 beta. would i have automatically updated to alpha? or do i need to do that manually?
[10:33] <Arwen> bene, um, beta is after alpha
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> IRC doesn't need much screen-space...
[10:33] <bene> sry whatever the final version is
[10:33] <Arwen> and any release of X random version will automatically update
[10:34] <bene> so i dont need to upgrade from beta to final?
[10:34] <bene> 7.04
[10:35] <Arwen> no, long as you let all the automatic updates install
[10:35] <bene> ok
[10:35] <bene> thanks
[10:35] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:35] <blekos> is there a way to find a file in a .tar file and extract just that one?
[10:36] <Arwen> blekos, yes?
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> blekos: I think it is just do not use the x option for xtracting
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> maybe you coud do something linke this tar -vf file.tar | grep text to see if you have that file inside the tar
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> where text is the text to find inside the tar
[10:38] <fdoving> blekos: yes, 'tar -xvf file.tar dir/inside/tar/file.txt' - you can list the files with 'tar -tvf file.tar' (the 'v' isn't neccessary)
[10:38] <Arwen> blekos, http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/index.html
[10:38] <fdoving> blekos: add j or z if you handle .bz2 or .gz files.
[10:39] <Arwen> or, listen to fdoving
[10:39] <avalon> Is there a way to tell my entire system (audio/flash/etc)  to output all sound to my USB headset?
[10:39] <ariane> well...knowing that installing kde over gnome isn't a so good idea, should i uninstall everything and switch back to gnome and wait for kubuntu 7.10?
[10:40] <Arwen> ariane, uh... Kubuntu 7.10 is out...
[10:40] <coreymon77> it is?
[10:40] <fdoving> ariane: why isn't it a good idea to install kde over gnome?
[10:40] <Arwen> oh wait, 7.10? oops
[10:40] <coreymon77> i wouldnt exactly call gutsy out
[10:40] <Arwen> but the Tribe 1 is
[10:40] <MaTiAz> What's the package for Qt then?
[10:41] <fdoving> 7.10 is there, not finished though :)
[10:41] <Arwen> MaTiAz, which package? there's several
[10:41] <fdoving> MaTiAz: libqt3-mt-dev probably
[10:41] <arkanabar> Is there a way to map the K menu to one of the windows keys on my keyboard?
[10:41] <MaTiAz> Ok, thanks :)
[10:41] <ariane> well maybe some beta is out. but i don't think i'm used to ubuntu enough to get into the beta adventure...
[10:41] <MaTiAz> I'm pretty new to GUI deving in Linux so sorry for troubling you :)
[10:42] <fdoving> MaTiAz: if your application isn't very special, it might be an option to install it from a package. there is a good chance the package exists.
[10:43] <Neolik-2007>  8-)
[10:43] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:44] <MaTiAz> fdoving: Yeah, I'm doing the Kdevelop tutorials so I doubt there are any packages :)
[10:44] <ariane> i'm going to see if gnome still works fine. thanks for your help!
[10:44] <fdoving> MaTiAz: ah, nevermind me then :)
[10:45] <Arwen> MaTiAz, why are you using kdevelop to compile stuff? what's wrong with "./configure && make"?
[10:45] <fdoving> Arwen: kdevelop kinda automates that for you.
[10:45] <blekos_> sorry, i need to ask again, is there a way to find a file from a .tar and then just have that file extracted?
[10:45] <Arwen> fdoving, you don't want automation when compiling...
[10:45] <Arwen> the more automated, the more likely to fail
[10:46] <MaTiAz> Well, I'm not so experienced so it's more likely for me to fail when doing it by hand :)
[10:46] <fdoving> Arwen: kdevelop is an editor, like for hacking, making programs.
[10:46] <Arwen> eh..
[10:46] <MaTiAz> I'm not compiling existing programs
[10:47] <Arwen> MaTiAz, ah.
[10:49] <waylandbill_> blekos_: yes. The man page for tar has example usage.
[10:50] <blekos_> ok thnx
[10:50] <Fuxian> i need some help with a cardreader. It was working fine before but now it doesnt show up anymore. Where can i find it again?
[10:50] <Neolik-2007> What is suckle
[10:51] <PABLO-VIVA> I need some help with amarok and mp3, I'm using kubuntu Feisty Fawn, I open Amarok and when I select any mp3 media amarok opens a popup asking me if I want to install mp3 support but It hans up there
[10:52] <avalon> Is there a way to tell my entire system (audio/flash/etc)  to output all sound to my USB headset?
[10:52] <Arwen> PABLO-VIVA, do it manually then. "apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[10:53] <PABLO-VIVA> Arwen: thanks I did not know wich package to install with apt
[10:53] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, is there an application that will search through my KMenu entries and find applications which no-longer exist?
[10:53] <waylandbill_> avalon: in the system settings, there's a section to adjust audio properties. You want to set the sound device in the advanced settings.
[10:53] <Arwen> NickPresta, nope. Not as far as I know.
[10:54] <PABLO-VIVA> thanks I installed libxine1-plugins and it worked
[10:54] <Arwen> uh.... I said libxine1-ffmpeg, but oh well
[10:54] <blekos_> i type sudo grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[10:54] <blekos_> but i get no result
[10:55] <PABLO-VIVA> Arwen: never mind thanks again
[10:55] <fdoving> NickPresta: having a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk might give you a clue. those are the user-only applications in the menu
[10:55] <blekos_> i am under the impression that my cpu is not recognised as dual core
[10:55] <Arwen> blekos_, uh... CPUs aren't "recognized" as dual-cre.
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> blekos_: grep for "prcessor"
[10:55] <Arwen> dual-core CPUs appear as 2 CPUs
[10:55] <fdoving> NickPresta: the system-ones belong to the packagages, so they are autoremoved with the package. any modified ones are placed in ~/.kde/share/applnk as copies for the user only.
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> *processor
[10:56] <NickPresta> fdoving, thanks. I will figure something out, I'm sure.
[10:56] <blekos_> sudo grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <Arwen> blekos_, NO
[10:57] <blekos_> sudo grep prcessor /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <Arwen> NO
[10:57] <Arwen> no sudo
[10:57] <arkanabar> Is there a way to map either of my window keys to the K menu, like in PCLOS?
[10:57] <Arwen> "grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | tail -n2"
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> run "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor"
[10:58] <Arwen> blekos_, or just grep processor /proc/cpuinfo
[10:58] <blekos_> the result i get is 0
[10:58] <blekos_> (zero)
[10:58] <Arwen> blekos_, that means that there's only 1 core seen
[10:58] <Arwen> you sure you have a dual-core? and are you running dapper?
[10:58] <blekos_> how can i make it to see 2 cores
[10:58] <blekos_> 100% +
[10:59] <fdoving> arkanabar: have a look at http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=11451
[10:59] <Arwen> blekos_, second question. Are you running Dapper/6.06?
[10:59] <blekos_> bfore i do all the mambo jambo with nvidia i had dual core
[10:59] <blekos_> nop
[10:59] <blekos_> feisty fawn
[10:59] <Arwen> hmm, no idea
[11:00] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: cat piping for grep is bad practice. 'grep <string> file' is faster. :)
[11:00] <jab630> how can i tell what video card is on this computer? someone put it together :)
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: ok
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> jab630: "cat lspci |grep video"
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> sorry, foget the cat
[11:01] <darkrift> q: does crossover office use wine?
[11:01] <Arwen> yes
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> lol.. i'm mixed up
[11:01] <Arwen> a heavily modified wine
[11:01] <darkrift> i c
[11:01] <darkrift> i didnt think it did
[11:01] <Arwen> same with Cedega
[11:02] <fdoving> jab630: or 'lspci|grep -i graph'
[11:02] <darkrift> but mirc that i installed in crossover has a "About wine" option in the menu
[11:02] <Arwen> darkrift, um.. mIRC?
[11:02] <Arwen> why?
[11:02] <darkrift> because ive written thousands of mirc scripts that i need to run
[11:03] <Arwen> ah
[11:03] <darkrift> and i dont know tcl or any other lang
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: whats the "-i" do?
[11:03] <darkrift> that was a requirement for me switching to linux..... mirc had to work
[11:03] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: case-insensitive.
[11:03] <Arwen> darkrift, you should start porting scripts though.... maybe python? that's relatively easy.
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[11:03] <darkrift> unless i find a linux based client that supports mirc scripts (that would be great)
[11:03] <darkrift> i know
[11:03] <tbtroja> darkrift: I'm sure you can get mIRC running in Wine?
[11:04] <darkrift> but not much time to learn another
[11:04] <darkrift> tbtroja: , it is running in crossover office
[11:04] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: i often use 'grep -niR <string> dir/' to find matches in all files inside dir/, with linenumbers.
[11:04] <Fuxian> i need some help with a cardreader. It was working fine before but now it doesnt show up anymore. Where can i find it again?
[11:04] <darkrift> but it does have some errors
[11:04] <tbtroja> darkrift: oh, I see.
[11:04] <voidmage> I used to use a lot of mirc scripts, but xchat works fine too.
[11:04] <voidmage> might not be the same for you though.
[11:04] <darkrift> first, the nicklist boxes dont get filled out unless i click in them (they are blank or have graphics errors in themn)
[11:05] <Arwen> darkrift, #crossover please
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: I knew about the -R, didn't know about the -n. Learn something new every day!
[11:05] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: --color is also nice.
[11:05] <darkrift> second, the window buffer in SOME, not all chans gets cut off (it only shows the last 10 or so lines)
[11:05] <PABLO-VIVA> well Konversation and KSirc work fine for me
[11:05] <darkrift> im not asking for help with crossover
[11:05] <darkrift> just stating a few things that didnt work
[11:06] <avenger> i need some help with amarok, anyone willing to help me?
[11:06] <Arwen> darkrift, yeah, but other people need help too, sorry
[11:06] <Arwen> avenger, I can try
[11:06] <PABLO-VIVA> avenger:  tell me
[11:06] <PABLO-VIVA> if I can i'll help you
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> avenger: whats the problem?
[11:06] <tbtroja> avenger: try not to ask to ask questions, just ask them.
[11:06] <avenger> amarok doesn start anymore, i tried to start it in the terminal and get the following error message
[11:07] <avenger> amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:07] <Arwen> avenger, have you installed fglrx manually?
[11:07] <Arwen> and then removed it
[11:07] <shatteredskye> does anyone know how to get a passive stylus working on a tablet?
[11:07] <darkrift> :S
[11:08] <avenger> i did, i tried to install the nvidia-driver
[11:08] <tbtroja> shatteredskye: what do you mean by passive stylus?
[11:08] <Arwen> avenger, ah...... um, you should reinstall mesa
[11:08] <avenger> but the xserver crashed, so i tried to reinstall the old one woth apt-get
[11:09] <avenger> waht is mesa?
[11:09] <Arwen> opengl libraries
[11:09] <avenger> ah ok
[11:09] <Arwen> avenger, "apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[11:10] <jab630> trying to figure out what kind of video card is in this machine. neither "lspci | grep video" nor "lspci | grep -i graphics" output anything...
[11:11] <jab630> nevermind: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[11:11] <Arwen> jab630, try "lspci | grep NVIDIA" or "lspci | grep ATI"
[11:11] <jab630> thats it :)
[11:11] <Arwen> or... wow, that's a really weird card
[11:11] <jab630> yeah, what the hell is it?
[11:11] <jab630> s3?
[11:11] <Arwen> old integrated one
[11:11] <jab630> gross :)
[11:11] <Arwen> *very* old
[11:11] <romudog> Can someone assist me in setting up an ssh server, I cant seem to find out how to start it or edit the config files.
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> not so old... I saw s3's in new laptops just a year ago
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> romudog: did you install the ssh erver package?
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> *server
[11:12] <jab630> Arwen: you know offhand if there are any better drivers for it than whatever kubuntu probably is using be default?
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> jab630: no, there aren't
[11:12] <jab630> by*
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> it doesn't hve 3d
[11:12] <Arwen> jab630, nope, it just sucks
[11:12] <jab630> nosrednaekim: no? oh well. thanks
[11:12] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Yes i did
[11:12] <Arwen> I think it has all of 4MB onboard memory :-P
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> romudog: it should be started automatically on boot then
[11:13] <avenger> thx arwen, that helped
[11:13] <romudog> nosrednaekim: But how can i configure it and setup the passwords like i did in windows, or is this automatic?
[11:14] <blaa> hey guys - is there a way of installing the new version of kaffeine without updating my whole system to unstable?
[11:14] <wolferine> what can I use to troubleshoot nfs not working?
[11:14] <blaa> or have i been on gentoo for too long..
[11:14] <blaa> ;)
[11:14] <ads_> when i boot up, where i should reach the login screen im getting nothing. i have to re-install nvidia drivers or edit xorg.conf with nv for driver form a text terminal...   tedious to say the least any ideas why?
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> romudog: should be all automatic (was for me)
[11:14] <shatteredskye> does anyone know how to get a passive stylus working on a convertible Tablet PC?
[11:14] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I want to do the ssh (terminal) and piped ssh proxy so i can use PuTTy to do the proxy like i had it setup in windows
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> romudog: well, I don't know the first thing about putty, but i'm sure there are alot of tutorials out there on how to get it working with Linux
[11:15] <wolferine> what can I use to troubleshoot nfs not working?
[11:15] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Okay, Do you know much about wine/winetools?
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> romudog: nope. I've never needed a Windows program.
[11:16] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Oh, I just need to install a flickr downloading app. Maybe you've used a native linux one?
[11:17] <yeniklasor> I don't see my speaker icon on tray. How can I put it back?
[11:17] <shatteredskye> anyone running Feisty on a Tablet PC?
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> romudog: hmmmm I know there is an UPLOADING app.
[11:21] <ads_> yeniklasor: k menu | multimedia | kmix
[11:21] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Thanks for the help. I'm looking for an app that will download all the photos, e.g. http://greggman.com/pages/flickrdown.htm
[11:21] <blekos_> here is a funny think, i when i use kernel 2.6.20-15 to use linux i have only one core recognised and have wifi supportenable, the opposite happen when i use 2.6.20-16
[11:21] <yeniklasor> ads_ | Thank you
[11:21] <romudog> Can someone assist me with winetools installation, It says i have the wrong version which i don't.
[11:21] <blekos_> any idea how to have wifi support with -16 (eth1 is not "seen" at all)
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: once there's a cd ripper on par with EAC for linux, i will no longer have use for windows software.
[11:21] <yeniklasor> And How can I change my autostart programs?
[11:21] <coreymon77> blekos_: what card?
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: there is ALWAYS that last little app...
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: yeah, i know :\
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> so i'm making do with a cdparanoia frontend
[11:21] <blekos_> i just notice i hadnt install -20 generic
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> wish development would progress on it, hopefully play nicer with caching cd-roms
[11:21] <yeniklasor> And How can I change my autostart(with booting) programs?
[11:22] <romudog> Linux needs to rule the world. I wouldnt mind having everything run on linux especially games but no spyware haha
[11:22] <blekos_> how can i see what card i have?
[11:23] <Daisuke_Ido> romudog: there's a problem with that dream
[11:23] <coreymon77> blekos_: dmsg
[11:23] <BluesKaj> games should have theier own OS .. but the greedy corprations can't get together and agree on one that will work without windows
[11:23] <Daisuke_Ido> the more people use linux, the more it gets targeted by malicious people.
[11:23] <romudog> Daisuke_Ido: Whats the problem?
[11:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: they do.  consoles :D
[11:24] <ads_> yeniklasor: write a bash script and place in ~/.kde/autostart
[11:24] <blekos_> dmsg?
[11:24] <blekos_> i get dmsg command not found
[11:24] <BluesKaj> yeah, exactly whwere they belong , but they keep writing them for windows
[11:24] <Daisuke_Ido> dmesg
[11:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: i didn't mind back in the old days
[11:25] <ads_> when i boot up, where i should reach the login screen im getting nothing. i have to re-install nvidia drivers or edit xorg.conf with nv for driver form a text terminal...   tedious to say the least any ideas why?
[11:25] <ads_> from*
[11:25] <avalon> Is there a way to tell my entire system (audio/flash/etc)  to output all sound to my USB headset?
[11:25] <yeniklasor> ads_ | I want delete some autostarting like webservers and some programs
[11:25] <ads_> yeniklasor:  okz easily done start with a empty session
[11:26] <ads_> go to kmenu| system settings|session manager
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> ms-dos gaming was awesome...  until you spent hours messing with autoexec.bat and config.sys to get everything just right so you could play ultima 7 only to have it crash violently before you can save causing a crying fit while curled up in the fetal position.
[11:27] <blekos_> it has a hell of info
[11:27] <Arwen> yay.... sane dual-head configuration is going to be in Gusty
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[11:27] <BluesKaj> ads, you could be setting your graphics/monitor paramters out of spec for the drivers you're using .. try to reconfig Xserver to the pnp driver and then find the right driver in sys/settings monitor &display/hardware
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> by the next LTS it should be an out-of-the-box worthy competitor :)
[11:28] <ads_> i dont make any changes after i install nvidia drivers tho... its only when i reboot  presumably xorg isnt saving  (havent tested that)
[11:29] <romudog> I gotta say linux is great but they gotta beat free to become mainstream and beat windows
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> ads_: lemme guess, you installed the nvidia driver from scratch?
[11:29] <ads_> yes
[11:30] <ads_> well using nvidias.run file
[11:30] <romudog> i'd use nvidia glx if its compatible with your card from repo's
[11:30] <Daisuke_Ido> or mvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new, whatever one's compatible.
[11:31] <Daisuke_Ido> n*
[11:31] <romudog> ^^ Agreed
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> ads_: its not modprobing your nvidia kernel driver automatically everythime.
[11:31] <ads_> well i had the same problem for a while so i changed to beta drivers  this solved it for a few weeks and now the beta drivers are doing the same onboot
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> ads_: you really should just use the ones from the repositories (unless you have a 8800)
[11:33] <romudog> no real use for an 8800 in linux unless you got special apps usin the gpu for video processing or is there?
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> romudog: who SAYS there's no use ;)
[11:34] <ads_> hmm ya  i guess ill try defualt druiver then.. to be honest im using beryl and thought that i needed nvidia drivers for ebtter perfromance but is this actually true?
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ads_: nvidia driver from repo != nv
[11:34] <romudog> only thing i can think of is tons of screens pumpin MASSIVE high rez nosrednaekim
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> ads_: the ones from then repositories are fine
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah, true.
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> HD
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> video
[11:34] <ads_> when you say the ones fromt he repositories what do you mean?
[11:35] <romudog> Anyone have a PVR-150 Hauppage card that they have working that can enlighten me?
[11:35] <ads_> sorry for spelling getting tired  :S
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> ads_: the repositories have proprietary nvidia drivers, all packaged up nice and easy
[11:36] <ads_> i understandthis what i mean is how do i use the repositories?
[11:36] <ads_> *to specifically update video driver
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> ads_: use Adept. K->System->Adept Manager
[11:37] <romudog> SlimeyPete: Ever used Synaptic? imo its better
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> romudog: yes, I have. I prefer it too but I didn't want to complicate things for ads (it's not installed by default)
[11:37] <romudog> true
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> I still do a lot of things using apt-get tbh... just an old habit
[11:38] <romudog> Poll: Whats everyone's favorite OSS App?
[11:40] <Gerrit> Hello all.
[11:40] <romudog> Gerrit: Hello.
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> romudog: amarok or beryl... maybe KDE
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm kind of partial to amarok
[11:42] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I love AmaroK its a great app, I have yet to try beryl i need Trucypt GUI to come out and linux to have full R/W ntfs support. I have 350gb's of data on a truecrypt drive usin ntfs...bad idea for not using an OSS standard.
[11:42] <romudog> Truecrypt*
[11:43] <wolferine> how can I grep so that the output does NOT contain a string?
[11:43] <navets> i need s-video help
[11:43] <navets> i have it set up
[11:43] <romudog> romudog_: hi
[11:43] <navets> but when i try to watch movies, it shows a blue screen on my tv where the movie is playing on my laptop
[11:51] <romudog_> how do i login to nickserv?
[11:52] <yanni_> how can I setup my Belkin wireless card, the green lights won't come on
[11:52] <yanni_> I'm a newbie
[11:52] <sepeck> greetings, I just got a new video card to replace my sad built in i810.  Anything I need to do ahead of time before I add the card?
[11:52] <sepeck> so my kubuntu system won't get uset at me?
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> sepeck: no. except maybe you should install the new video card's driver.
[11:53] <romudog_> sepeck:is the proprietary driver installed?
[11:53] <sepeck> romudog_: don't know.  shall have to look (nVidia 7100GS is the new card)
[11:53] <joe4288> hi does any 1 have the repository for w32codec i cant seem to find it
[11:54] <romudog_> joe4288: Use Easy Ubuntu, Google Easy Ubuntu.
[11:54] <joe4288> ok
[11:54] <BluesKaj> joe4288, google medibuntu
[11:54] <joe4288> i installed that repository
[11:54] <joe4288> and w32codec doesnt seem to be there
[11:55] <romudog_> sepeck: I changed drivers to the wrong one once and it hosed my system so if you have a proprietary driver selected i'd uninstall it unless it uses the same one.
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> joe4288: did you do an update?
[11:55] <romudog_> sepeck: If it does then you should be good.
[11:55] <eriefisher> the medibuntu repo 404'd earlier maybe now ok
[11:55] <sepeck> going from Intel i810 to nVidia so doubt it's the same.  :)
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> sepeck: install nvidia-glx-new
[11:56] <joe4288> yes i did
[11:56] <joe4288> but ill check again
[11:56] <sepeck> thx
[11:57] <yanni_> is that no one here knows anything about wireless cards? I mean comeon I was here last night and everyone refuse to help, sorry to take it personall but damn
[11:57] <eriefisher> I just tried again medibuntu 404'd
[11:57] <joe4288> nope even after update no w32codecs
[11:57] <romudog_> yanni_i: Whats the problem?
[11:57] <yanni_> thanks
[11:58] <yanni_> I need to get my belkin wireless card to get recognize by the system, no green lights are on
[11:58] <romudog_> yanni_i: Desktop or laptop?
[11:58] <joe4288> question about easy ubuntu? i have feisty and it says its for damper and edgy will it still work?
[11:58] <romudog_> joe4288: i just used it recently it works fine
[11:59] <romudog_> joe4288: im on feisty
[11:59] <yanni_> I tried doing some hack but that partially worked because right now I can use it, but I cannot switch to any other networks and it only works when I set it manually
[11:59] <joe4288> koo
[11:59] <sepeck> thx.  If I return shortly it went well :)
[11:59] <joe4288> well ill let you know if everything is good then :)
[11:59] <trakinas> help me! i forgot i cant switch to tty1 without getting stuck on it. how do I go back to X?
[12:00] <blekos> hi, when i use kernet 2.6.20-15 for linux i have my wifi card detected, on the contrary when i use 2.xxx-20 it doesnt see my card.
[12:00] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: do you have an ATI?
[12:00] <blekos> My wifi card is intel 3945acg
[12:00] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: sis...
[12:00] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: I pressed control+alt f1 and it usually should go back to X on  f7, right?
[12:01] <eriefisher> trakinas:ctrl-alt-F7
[12:01] <romudog_> isnt it alt?
[12:01] <trakinas> eriefisher: i know. it just dont get back
[12:01] <trakinas> any control+alt+f* wont change. i will get this screen in anyway..
[12:02] <eriefisher> huh?
[12:02] <trakinas> control+alt+f1-12 show this same screen.
[12:02] <trakinas> it does not prompt a new login section or switch to X
[12:02] <joe4288> hmm it doesnt seem to be working
[12:02] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: it doesn't show a CL?
[12:02] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: no. it does showed this one where I am.
[12:03] <joe4288> easyubuntu acts like its load (bounce icon) then just doesnt
[12:03] <trakinas> and now i cant go back to kde or anything. =P
[12:03] <trakinas> so i aptgeted irssi and now Im here.
[12:03] <trakinas> *aptgot, please...
[12:03] <eriefisher> trakinas: start x?
[12:03] <trakinas> hehehehh
[12:03] <trakinas> eriefisher: it is already running...
[12:03] <yanni_> I'm on a sonyio laptop v
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: "sudo /etc/X11/kdm stop"
[12:04] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: i will lose some docs i didnt saved... :/
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: openoffice?
[12:04] <joe4288> i tried starting easyubuntu it looked like it was loading then just disappeared
[12:04] <trakinas> in anyway, it does happens everytime i switch no a new tty. so, how can i fix it?
[12:04] <joe4288> i can see it in the process table it says its sleeping
[12:04] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: no. Quanta.
[12:04] <joe4288> any ideas any1?
[12:04] <trakinas> html stuff.
[12:05] <trakinas> not much.
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: oh ok... cause OO automatically saves.
[12:05] <trakinas> hehe
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: well, do it anyway.
[12:06] <joe4288> ok got it working
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> some video card just have problems with multiple tty's
[12:06] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: i was going to do that before coming here, but i thought it could have another solution.
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: not that I know of
[12:06] <yanni_> sorry romudog_ but my freaking kid is screaming in my ear
[12:07] <trakinas> kay. but why is that happening? never saw this before.
[12:07] <trakinas> (gentoo kind of work better with my pc... no tty troubles and also my dvd device works on it.)
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: use Gentoo then.
[12:07] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: emerge gets on my nerves. :/
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> oh.
[12:08] <Gerrit> What runlevel can I use for 'text-only' mode in Kubuntu? I need to restart X to try if a new configuration gets my touchpad working.
[12:08] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: hehe! i start using kubuntu because i go tired of taking to long to install a simple app.
[12:08] <Arwen> Gerrit, 2 I think
[12:08] <trakinas> anyway, Id like to put my device working in kubuntu before giving up.
[12:08] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: if you are on the command line "sudo /etc/X11/kdm restart"
[12:09] <Gerrit> Arwen: It seems I am already in 2. 'runlevel' gives 'n 2'.
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> that will restart the xserver
[12:09] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Thanks.
[12:09] <Arwen> hmm
[12:09] <Arwen> well, that works too
[12:10] <trakinas> well... about my device, i will try other kernel later. cause I really dont know what causes so much I/O errors...
[12:11] <trakinas> gtg! i will be back later. cheers! :] 
[12:11] <Gerrit> Then I will try to get my touchpad working now. It is my only piece of hardware that was not autodetected and -configured: I am impressed with Kubuntu's ability to detect hardware. I used to be a Fedora-user until yesterday, but since I saw that kubuntu gets my video configuration right immediatly (widescreen Radeon Mobility X700), as well as my wireless device and various ACPI features, I decided to switch.
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> what type of touchpad? not a wacom I hope.
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> :-/
[12:12] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: It's a Symantec
[12:12] <Gerrit> hmm
[12:12] <Gerrit> or something like that
[12:12] <Minataku> !synaptic
[12:12] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:12] <Gerrit> Synapti
[12:12] <Minataku> !synaptics
[12:12] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> synaptics
[12:12] <Gerrit> Synaptics
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> there we go
[12:12] <Gerrit> Ah
[12:12] <Minataku> Oops X3
[12:12] <Gerrit> I found the documentation in /usr/share/doc already
[12:12] <Gerrit> but I didn't have access to the internet in the train.
[12:12] <Anshelm> vou instalar o linux na minha maquina e estou em duvida sobre qual instalar, kurumin ou kubunto
[12:13] <Anshelm> op
[12:13] <Minataku> !br
[12:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: how can you tell the language?
[12:13] <sam2> how do i find out what process is accessing the packages database?
[12:13] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: His host ends in .br