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Hobbseehey all!02:56
mrsn0hoi02:56
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Hobbseeyay, -devel-discuss.03:04
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nesl247Is there a list of patches ubuntu uses, and the patch istelf03:35
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Hobbseenesl247: patches.ubuntu.com03:36
nesl247Hobbsee: Those are against debians packages03:36
nesl247I need the patches against the upstream tarball03:37
nesl247At least that's what the page says03:37
Hobbseenesl247: then you'd have to download the source, and look in the .diff.gz03:37
Hobbseeor in debian/patches of the source - depending on how much you want03:37
nesl247Ugh, That's what I'm doing, such horrible management for patches03:37
nesl247I'm really surprised there isn't a patches.ubuntu.com that has each package, and it's patches03:38
nesl247Against upsream, not debian03:38
Hobbseethere may be.  i just dont know of it03:38
Hobbseedebian may have one, too03:38
nesl247Still trying to figure out what ubuntu patched to get the nice logout dialog03:40
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minghuathere isn't, either in ubuntu or debian03:43
minghuaevery package deals with patches in its own way03:44
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nesl247minghua: That's bad. All the patches should be listed in one location, and of course included in each package..03:47
nesl247I mean, if someone wants to use the patch for another distro let's say, they have to jump through hoops03:47
Hobbseedepends what they'r eusing as a base and such03:48
minghuanesl247: they are, in the .diff.gz files03:49
nesl247minghua: I told you, that's a pain in the ass to use03:49
minghuanesl247: they are just not necessarily separated to individual patches03:50
nesl247I mean, it's not too bad, but it's not a simple download a patch. You have to download that, patch, then get the patch from that03:50
nesl247Do any of you know what patch does the nice logout dialog?03:50
minghuanesl247: Depends on the point of view, I suppose.  It's very easy to use for Debian-based distros.03:50
nesl247minghua: Yes, but when you create a patch, you tend to think of submitting it upstream. At least that's what a lot of distros do03:51
Hobbseenesl247: it's in gnome-session, i'm told03:51
nesl247Hobbsee: I think I have the patch, but the logout dialog didn't change03:51
Hobbseenesl247: sure -but there's no point sending a humongous block patch of the entire debian directory03:51
nesl247Hobbsee: that's why each patch should be located separately as just the individual patches03:52
minghuanesl247: in Debian, it's a decision of individual maintainers.  And I believe (I don't have hard data to back up) the majority of maintainers do send patches upstream.03:52
Hobbseelike patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/ is.  yes03:52
minghuaAnd IIRC, the logout dialog patch was definitely sent upstream.03:53
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nesl247It's not included in gnome yet then, trying to port it.03:54
minghuaI believe GNOME upstream has their reasons for not accepting it immediately, but that's not really because Ubuntu didn't make the patch available.03:55
nesl247I wonder why the patch isn't working then03:56
nesl247Hppane to have a link to the patch. Maybe I'm missing a package that needs patching04:02
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nesl247Aha, think I'm missing gnome-panel stuff04:10
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ccxxprohi all05:13
ccxxproanybody there can help me to solve the installation problem 05:13
ccxxproi'd like to dual boot vista + ubuntu 05:14
ccxxproand i follow the instruction from the forum 05:14
ccxxproi got the menu from the grub and window vista 05:15
ccxxprobut when i choose to boot from window vista 05:15
ccxxproinstead of booting from vista , it just restart my laptop05:16
ccxxproanybody , can help me to solve the problem ?05:16
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AndyPccxxpro: this isn't a support channel, try #ubuntu05:23
graymansure! The instructions for solving that problem is in the topic05:23
ccxxprothanx05:25
ccxxprowrong channel05:25
ccxxprohehe05:25
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Hobbseeheh08:35
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pygimorning11:03
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Fjodor'morning pygi11:15
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pygimorning Fjodor and Mithrandir 11:17
FujitsuHi Mithrandir, Fjodor, pygi.11:18
pygiand hi Fujitsu :)11:18
Mithrandirhiya fuji, pygi11:18
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FjodorHi Fujitsu 11:22
FjodorAnd Mithrandir, of course :-)11:23
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mdke_Mirv: yeah, we should do some11:44
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Kmosany core-dev ?01:10
Kmoshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aegis-virus-scanner/0.1.1-1 -> no more supported by author01:10
Kmosv2.0.0 in development :)01:11
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drlivesey/who01:13
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bhalehttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=2007061701:43
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sn0userfriendly ftw :] 01:45
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bhalehi Hobbsee 02:05
jsgotangcohey02:05
bhaleyay, jerome02:06
Hobbsee:)02:06
Hobbseehiya bhale, spam02:06
jsgotangcohey brandon, Hobbsee02:06
jsgotangcogood weekend to you guys!02:07
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Hobbseeor fireworks.  not sure which02:09
desrtbhale; from a reference point of view, yay for us.  from a "funny?" point of view: no. :p02:12
bhaledesrt: i was recounting our runins with sexpert to brad (medsphere) yesterday02:14
bhaledesrt: I cant find him on the web02:14
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desrtwhy should you expect to?02:17
bhaleIm not sure, I had an idea that he did something worthwhile for GNOME once02:17
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=== desrt finds on planet gnome Today's HUGE news
desrtHuge news!! A few minutes ago, 4 Front has released the Open Sound System (OSS) under GPL!!02:21
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bhaledesrt: i see that on lwn also, I scratched my head.02:22
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desrtbroadband would be so much more useful if 17mbit was actually 17mbit02:26
desrtand not like 17down/2up02:26
Hobbseeyeah, well02:26
Hobbseehttp://bigpond.com/offer/sco/?page_name=cable&offer=coles02:27
pygidesrt, you're lucky you can get 17down even02:29
desrti can't.02:29
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jsgotangcohey sabdfl04:26
sabdflhiya04:26
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socsome here who knows something about avivo?05:29
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sochow can  i find out my gpu's pciid?05:44
ion_lspci -n | grep 030005:45
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socah thx+06:05
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socdo you know if there is somewhere a websvn, so i can look if the avivo developers forgot to add my card or if it is something different06:06
Nafallosoc: apt-get source isn't good enough? :-)06:06
dortoBug #107925 was filed in April, not fixed yet. It seems to be a trivial fix, what could be the possible reasons for not applying it yet?06:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107925 in synaptic "Synaptic writes wrong download scripts" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10792506:07
dortourl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/synaptic/+bug/10792506:07
dortooh, already generated :)06:07
Nafallodorto: ubotu already said the URL :-P06:07
dortoyeah, saw it a little late :)06:09
pHi everyone, i would be interested in contributing to ubuntu. what is the better way to start ?06:10
NafallopH: in what way? :-)06:10
pHfixing bugs, coding06:11
Nafallo#ubuntu-motu should be the place to be then :-)06:11
pHthx :-)06:12
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socok found it: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=avivo/xf86-video-avivo.git; a=blob_plain;f=include/avivo.h06:20
socwould it be enough to add another entry like "#define PCI_CHIP RV515_7145 0x7145"06:21
socok, seems i have to change the headerfile and things in avivo.c06:25
socwill i be able to damage my hardware by adding another (maybe) gpu to the accepted id's?06:25
soc... another (maybe compatible) gpu to the accepted id's?06:27
mjrshouldn't06:30
socah ok06:30
socthen i'll try it06:30
mjrpeople have done that all the time with atis ;] 06:31
soci downloaded the source with apt-get source06:31
socwill debuild be enough to rebuild the package?06:31
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socmjr:06:35
socmjr: i installed the modified package ... i'll hope your right :-/06:36
pygihey Zdra 06:38
Zdrahello :)06:38
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socomg ...06:40
soci saw something06:40
soci added my card and saw something graphical with it ...06:40
soci switched it off panically06:40
socok i'll try again ...06:40
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socmaybe some psychological support?!?!06:41
soci could need that now06:41
socok, resolution is fucked up ...06:42
socbut it seems to work ...06:42
soci saw gdm approximatley 3 times ,,,06:42
soccan somebody help me?06:43
socplease?06:43
socwhere is the original author of avivo?06:44
Hobbsee!weekend06:44
ubotuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.06:44
Hobbseei'm not sure this is an appropriate channel, either.06:45
pygiHobbsee, good morning kid :)06:46
Hobbseehiya06:46
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pygiHobbsee, you good? :)06:47
Hobbseeyeah. 06:47
pygiperfect ^_^06:47
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socyeah ok ...06:48
socit seems to kind of work ...06:48
socdoes someone have the email/im of jerome glisse?06:48
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soche seems to be one of the developers06:48
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=== Hobbsee suggests launchpad, or google, might be an appropriate place to look
=== Hobbsee also notes that this is not the appropriate channel.
socok, so where should i go?06:49
Hobbsee#ubuntu+1, probably06:51
Hobbseeseeing as it's gusty06:51
Hobbseeer, gutsy06:51
Hobbseemaybe to the relevant channels for what you're working on - google might be able to tell you if there's an applicable irc channel06:51
mc44soc: why don't you read http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-June/025506.html and http://www.fooishbar.org/blog/2007/Jun/15#donations-2007-06-15-00-0906:51
socah thx06:52
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pygiHobbsee, back to bug you07:26
Hobbseeoh noes!!07:27
pygi:)07:27
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alex-weejwhat is the partitioning library used by ubiquity?09:12
alex-weejdoes it share code with GPartEd?09:13
alex-weeji ask as GPartEd 0.3 supports moving file systems, which is incredibly useful when installing09:13
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LaserJockI thought it used parted but I don't know if that's changed09:18
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Kmoshttp://dad.dunnewind.net/main.php11:49
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