[12:25] hehe i see [12:34] lol looking at a cpu heatsink 690g! thats just crazy :D [12:34] but its fanless [12:34] meh.. the heatsink i need is ~$40 [12:34] grrr [12:35] :/ === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.173.5] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [12:40] for 4721 SEK you could get a totaly quiet (only a seasonic 120mm psu fan) htpc .. 4721 SEK = 620 USD thats pretty nice :) === Daviey needs a low profile cooler (40mm) >:( === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.173.5] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:41] cooler for what Daviey? [12:41] cpu [12:44] ah .. well you wont find any lowprofile fanless coolers thats for sure hehe :p === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.173.5] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [12:47] O RLY [12:54] haha :> [12:54] Y RLY! [01:00] maybe http://www.komplett.se/img/p/200/324980.jpg [01:00] lol Daviey are you swedish? :p [01:01] nice how high is it? [01:01] 24mm i think [01:01] cool [01:02] http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=66468 <- thats what im going for if i end up buying a new htpc [01:02] 665g .. my case will prolly tilt over [01:02] pretty [01:02] but tall [01:03] hehe yeah well im going for this case instead of a htpc case http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=74960 [01:04] tomshardware gave it alot of love [01:05] hmm [01:05] still looks like a pc tho [01:05] currently i'm using a beige tower [01:05] have done for nearly 2 years! [01:05] decided it's time for a htpc case [01:06] cool what are you looking at? [01:07] the coolest thing whould be to get my old EPIA M running .. whould save me alot of buck as i only need the TV card and a external soundcard :) [01:07] http://www.hipergroup.com/image/products/media/hmc-2k53a.jpg [01:07] looks slim! [01:08] http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/43060_01.jpg [01:08] that's a slightly better shit [01:08] shot! [01:08] !ohmy [01:08] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:08] haha [01:08] owned [01:08] heh [01:08] you didnt answer my question Daviey are you from sweden? [01:08] na [01:09] just used google images to find a decent photo [01:09] I'm from UK [01:09] oh lol .. :D [01:09] koplett.se is swedish :> [01:10] yeah, they do ship to most of europe thi [01:10] ordered ram from them years ago [01:10] oh cool .. didnt even know that [01:11] http://www.atruereview.com/ZMRSSC/index.php <-- thats the card im gonna try in ubuntu [01:13] found another low profile cooler - but noise level 28 - 46.5dB!! [01:13] that's a bleedin jumbo jet [01:14] hehe yeah [01:16] do you know the name of the chip your usb sound device is using Daviey? [01:18] wait 1 === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:19] hmm [01:19] Bus 003 Device 002: ID 047f:0301 Plantronics, Inc. [01:20] [52358.611300] input,hiddev96: USB HID v1.00 Device [Plantronics Plantronics headset] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1 [01:20] That's all i can tell you, sorry [01:24] np [01:25] man .. stupid unichrome! it just wont play any videos! get a black screen on some files and nothing on others! grr [01:36] DaveMorris built custom unichrome drivers. Might be worth speaking to him when he returns [01:37] He had to for a EPIA-M [01:38] yeah DaveMorris helped me setting these drivers up thru ssh .. but we must have missed something or im doing something terrably wrong [01:38] anyway ill hassle him when he gets back .. :) [01:55] nn dudes! === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54A5E5F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jose [n=jose@pool-71-113-61-197.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === grndslm [n=grndslm@69.92.23.67] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === OpenMedia [n=sellis@60-234-129-166.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:35] New bug: #119562 in restricted-manager "crashes with IndexError" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119562 === jose [n=jose@pool-71-113-61-197.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:40] Say - is there anyone here who might help me with the internet search function in Deskbar? [07:41] superm1: You awake? [07:41] yea OpenMedia [07:41] Going to be at UbuntuLive :) [07:41] Just booked.. [07:42] awesome! [07:42] Let me know if you'd like one of our units for additional demo gear. I'll see what I can do [07:42] sure i'll let you know within a week or so [07:42] (we have to have our presentation prepared by the 25th, so i'll know how things will be doing by then) [07:43] you got the discount on admission right? [07:43] Are details are up at http://wiki.oreillynet.com/ubuntulive07/index.cgi?WhosComing [07:43] Yeah.. Found the codes :) [07:43] good good [07:43] Hell yeah. Doing OSCON as well [07:44] ah i wish i could stay an extra week for that too [07:44] i'm already cutting it so close here with taking these 3 days off [07:44] What do you do? [07:44] i'm interning with IBM this summer [07:44] yet have one more semester of school to go [07:44] ;) [07:45] You in blue pages? [07:45] yup [07:45] do you have access? [07:45] Look me up then... I run the NZ Linux team [07:45] Guy has to have a day job [07:45] really.... [07:46] small world here :) [07:46] really... Architect and Technical lead [07:46] do you guys work with the lud team at all? [07:46] or wait they are out of brazil i think [07:47] I'll have to try and catch you on sametime at some point [07:48] i'm pulling up my work laptop right now, i'll add you in to my contact list before i forget :) [07:49] Don't have my VPN active at the moment. [07:50] listed as a contractor? [07:50] Yup [07:50] Most of the NZ team are [07:50] why is that? [07:52] The way things work on this side of the world [07:52] ah [07:53] so how did you manage to get this much time off then? [08:01] Too much leave owing. [08:02] We get more than the US. [08:10] Shout you a beer in Portland then. We get in late Friday to recover from the flight [08:10] aye me too [08:11] i still have to sort out a hotel and such. [08:11] imbrandon mentioned an interest in sharing a room, but i haven't spoken to him about it other than in passing [08:23] Not a lot of hotels left [08:24] oh really.... [08:24] thats not good [08:24] imbrandon, ping. we should really sort this out :) [09:05] New bug: #119624 in ubiquity (main) "Installer fails (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119624 === OpenMedia [n=sellis@60-234-129-166.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === kruuli [n=perssons@c-bcb772d5.013-36-73746f51.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:40] morning ^^ [09:41] morning kruuli [09:41] thats probably my queue to go to bed [09:41] if its morning for you :0 [09:41] haha :p [09:41] its like 9 in the morning here :) [09:41] i just wrapped up what i think is the last of the tv out support [09:41] so it *should* be functional :) [09:41] very nice! :D [09:42] want me to try it out? [09:42] if you could, yes that would be great [09:42] i've been scping things into the live env, so let me just build an ISO [09:42] and you can use that [09:42] cool :) [09:43] is it the nivida stuff your talking about? or some general tv out support? [09:43] nvidia tv out and ati tv out should work after install now [09:43] if you choose tv out during install [09:43] ok nice [09:43] and it will install nvidia or ati drivers if you want [09:44] atm it needs web access for such things to work though [09:44] i haven't worked out how to make them get pulled from the disk [09:44] well most have so its ok imo :) [09:44] ill switch to my nvidia card brb [09:44] and still have plenty of months to figure that out too [09:50] back [09:50] k [09:50] http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/buildlog [09:50] in about an hour the build will be done [09:51] you'll know because that log gives you a filesize at the end and says something about where its placed and such [09:51] once it does that, http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/mythbuntu-7.10~070617-i386.iso [09:51] will be the link [09:51] with http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/mythbuntu-7.10~070617-i386.iso.md5sum [09:51] being the md5sum [09:51] got it! [09:51] i'm telling you because its time for bed for me, and i wont be up when it finishes :) [09:52] and i can just burn it on a cd and try it? [09:52] yup [09:52] hehe i understand dude :) [09:52] in theory of course :) [09:52] ofc! [09:52] when did you say the ETA on unichrome was? :> [09:53] well if i keep up the pace i'm going on this other stuff, it should be in by release - but i do have some other stuff coming up next month (like ULive), so we'll see :) [09:53] now there is a bit of an ugly bug floating around with glib [09:53] hopefully my workaround in there goes around it [09:54] but if when you double click the installer nothing happens [09:54] then launch from the terminal like this: [09:54] export G_SLICE=always-malloc; sudo ubiquity mythbuntu-ui [09:54] hopefully you wont have to do that though [09:54] that same glib bug affects VLC too, so dont try to open it [09:55] got it! :) [09:55] and sounds good about the unichrome :p [09:56] oh oops. forgot need to get one more thing in the iso before i let that keep going brb in a few minutes [10:00] hehe k [10:11] okay thats all up there now. so just keep an eye on that build log about an hour from now [10:11] it should be ready [10:11] sure thing [10:11] nn [10:12] have a good nights sleep now superm1 :> === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.173.5] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:43] !seen DaveMorris [12:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen davemorris - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:43] :< [02:13] i managed to break my xorg.conf [02:13] get a blue screen trying to boot [02:13] think i know whats wrong .. but how do i exec the xorg.conf now? [02:36] solved it .. esc and failesafe mode did the job :D === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.173.5] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [02:46] anyone know whe DaveMorris will be back? [02:58] superm1, ping [02:59] superm1, yea shoot me a email about bunking up in portland [03:39] laga: ping [05:13] kruuli, here still? [05:14] if you can get me the xor.g.0.log [05:14] that you had [05:14] that'd be great [05:19] kruuli, and as well what TV type you were using, what cable etc [06:08] superm1 where can i find xor.g.0.log? [06:09] kruuli, I meant to say Xorg.0.log [06:09] its in /var/log [06:09] ok [06:09] if you did manage to get X to start though, it was likely overwritten [06:09] it may be called Xorg.1.log [06:09] due to log rotation [06:09] well i didnt get it to work that well :p [06:10] was using the TV out on my nvidia card on a Panasonic TH-42PV60 [06:10] what sort of input? [06:10] composite or svideO? [06:10] Svideo [06:10] pal? [06:11] ntsc [06:11] okay, well i'll have to see what that log says then [06:11] i didn't try NTSC myself since my card doesn't support it [06:11] it only does component [06:11] (hd480,hd720, etc) === Stinewave [n=none@pool-71-165-83-88.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:13] i'm *hoping* its just a minor typo [06:13] Hello, anyone here today. Oh, by the way... Happy Fathers day. [06:15] Hi Stinewave [06:15] omg its fathers day today? [06:15] kruuli, call your dad :) [06:15] yeah think i will :p [06:15] I'm setting up MythTV for my first time. I'm using MithDora 4. The first time I installed it, it didn't detect my sound corectly and the manual setting would not corect this. So I re-installed and now the sound works but I can't get a listing and there's no news or weather. [06:15] superm1 how do i make the log file visiable to you? copy/paste does not seem to work [06:16] kruuli, scp is the best way [06:16] explain :D [06:16] or pastebin [06:16] !pastebin [06:16] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [06:16] yeah but how do i copy paste in nano? [06:16] pastebin is probably easiest [06:16] are you in X? [06:16] Stinewave, mythdora likely doesn't have the mythweather patch to use a different weather source [06:16] Stinewave, msnbc broke their format [06:17] Stinewave you got me all worked up! fathers day in sweden is in november lol :> [06:18] superm1 haha you should have used another test subject! what do you mean by X? :> [06:18] OK, but I put in my zap2it account information and it does nothing. The News feed used to show Yahoo,BBC and a few others but now the screen is blank. It's as if I have not network conection but the web-browers work fine. [06:18] kruuli, how are you viewing the file? At a console? [06:18] or in the GUI [06:18] in a terminal in it [06:18] yeah console [06:19] using the terminal emulation [06:19] okay so you could open another terminal [06:19] and run firefox [06:19] yes [06:19] and /sudo nano /var/etc/xorg to view the file [06:20] Stinewave, I can't speak much to mythdora's package unfortunately [06:20] they use a completely different set of builds and patches than we are here [06:20] so I'm not sure if they introduced some odd patches to mythnews [06:20] yeah but how do i copy paste text in nano? will have no problem posting the file if i know that :) [06:20] ah [06:20] ok, [06:20] kruuli, highlight it [06:21] and then in a pastebin [06:21] middle click [06:21] middle click? .. mousescroll click? :D [06:21] but the file is likely a bit long, you might want to use cat to look at instead [06:21] so you can highlight the whole file [06:21] if you do "sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log" [06:21] yeah its super long! [06:22] and then just highlight and drag up [06:22] ok no command for windows ctrl + a ? [06:22] well not in a terminal app like that [06:22] you can install gedit though [06:22] kk [06:22] or kedit [06:22] and do it in there if your more comfortable [06:22] sudo apt-get install gedit [06:23] sudo apt-get gedit? [06:23] ah so close! :D [06:23] will do that right away [06:25] OK, heres another one someone might be able to help me with. The MithTV screens and the video played from the TV Tuner card show up on my screen in a box that's smaller then the full screen but if I play a DVD it shows up full screen. How do I get everything full-screen? [06:26] I have the rez set to 800x600. that's the max it alows [06:26] Stinewave, do you have a 16:9 TV? [06:26] o [06:26] NO [06:26] Have you possibly changed the appearance settings in (Settings->Appearance)? [06:26] there are options to control what window it plays in [06:26] and the size there [06:27] It's just a standard 4:6 or whatever it is and I'm using S-video out [06:27] I never touched anything but I'll look again [06:28] Thanks [06:28] superm1 i just realized something i did a reinstall after the whole nvidia thing :< terrible sorry didnt know you needed logfiles :< when i look thru the log it only talks about VIA stuff now :< [06:28] kruuli, you didn't end up doing it on the extra drive? [06:29] nope .. i ended up breaking my unichrome install [06:29] ouch, sorry :) [06:29] well thats np .. what buggers me is all was a waste now that you didnt get your logfile :/ [06:30] do you recall at all what the error was that it was spitting at you about why it couldn't start X? [06:30] well not really .. its all a bunch of mumbojumbo for me lol [06:31] i never actually got a picture on my tv out [06:31] had to use the VGA to see anything [06:32] there is no way the file could be saved somewhere? [06:32] i didnt do a clean install [06:33] oh wait i did .. that auto partition thing :< [06:33] well you did a clean mythbuntu install? [06:33] bah this sucks! [06:33] or ubuntu install [06:33] mythbuntu [06:33] oh but didnt activate the proprietary driver. [06:33] man. [06:33] no dont think so .. i used the guided thing [06:34] :/ sorry mate [06:35] well did everything else in the install work as expected? [06:35] without any intervention [06:35] (using the newer disc) [06:35] yeah none more then what i always have [06:35] the 256mbramisnotenough problem [06:36] so you didn't have to launch ubiquity from a terminal or anything [06:36] oh how did you get around that this time? [06:36] same as before [06:37] i dont recall the solution before though? [06:38] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubiquity ubiquity-frontend -gtk -y && sudo apt-get clean [06:38] and kill the apache2 and mysql processes [06:38] on the new disk you did this? [06:38] did that without thinking so dunno if it helped or not [06:38] none of that should have been necessary on the new disk [06:39] hehe lol [06:39] and were apache / mysql running? [06:40] started to kille the process didnt see the [OK] thingy but could have missed it aswell [06:41] think i lack the experience to help you on this .. if theres something wrong i dont have a clue what it is or how i go about to solve it :< [06:41] too bad i wasnt awake when you went through this :) [06:41] cant even get my unichrome to play avi or mpeg2 files lol ;) [06:42] yeah .. maybe we can set something up if we both have the free time [06:42] well if you've got time yet today and are feeling in the 'reinstalling mood :) [06:42] i've got a few hours right now [06:42] i have no problem going thru it again if you guide me and can gather the correct information [06:43] cant tonight gonna watch a movie with me gf.. she works late tomorrow evning .. how about then? [06:43] whats the timediffrence between us btw? [06:43] what time is that for me ? [06:43] i'm GMT-5 right now i think [06:44] oh im GMT +1 [06:44] so its around 6PM for you right now? [06:44] yeah 18:45 [06:45] ah then i must be GMT-6, its 11:45 [06:45] kk so tomorrow about 14:00 your time .. is that fine with you? [06:46] Tomorrow is monday. Well actually no i wont be able to do that [06:46] i have a meeting from 12:30 to 16:30 [06:46] oh ok [06:46] tuesday though [06:46] at 15:00 will work [06:47] ok tuesday around 15-1600 ? [06:47] ya [06:47] (my time) [06:47] is that too late for you? === jose [n=jose@pool-71-113-61-197.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:48] no that will be fine .. prolly cant get the free time until then anyways :> [06:48] ah okay. good then. hopefully we can nail this, and tv out for nvidia cards will be working for other people [06:48] yeah that whould be nice [06:49] kruuli, do you have a list of what DaveMorris had you do for openchromo? [06:49] *openchrome [06:49] was it involving compiling items, or just wgeting and configuring? [06:49] nope .. sorry [06:49] we ended up him ssh ing to solve it lol [06:49] ah okay [06:49] dunno what shady stuff he did then [06:50] but it sure worked and now it does not lol :D [06:50] well hopefully its not to much black magic [06:50] voodoo!! [06:51] movie time now [06:51] okay cu [06:51] see you on tuesday mate if not before :> [06:53] superm1: arg! [06:53] hi Daviey [06:53] what's wrong? === Daviey has just spent >$200 on myth [06:54] woah [06:54] why? [06:54] new frontend [06:54] old one break? [06:54] naa; old one was beige tower [06:55] then it was a good investment :) [06:55] Daviey, does this frontend have an nvidia card by chance... [06:55] the cpu cooler was ~$25 [06:55] nope ATI [06:55] ooh [06:55] :`( [06:55] even better [06:56] i have changes in there for those too [06:56] goody [06:56] grab the new ISO [06:56] hmm, hasn't arrived yet - just ordered it online [06:56] haha [06:56] o [06:56] :( [06:57] http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1165&maincat_no=1 <- that's the mobo i went for [06:57] has built in HDMI :) [06:57] does audio go over the HDMI too on PC HDMI? [06:58] yep [06:58] neat [06:59] currently i'm using DVI->HDMI cable, but that doesn't carry audio so i have a 3.5mm jack also plugged into the tv [06:59] obv. it aint surround sound [06:59] do you have a receiver though? [06:59] that you could use [07:00] IR? [07:01] audio receiver [07:02] that you could do surround [07:02] and such [07:02] nope.. [07:02] really need to get that sorted [07:05] http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/html/modding/usb_ir_receiver/solder_usb_ir_receiver.html <-- seems quite a good toy. It's a USB IR reciever that also act's as an ON/OFF switch to the motherboard [07:05] so you can use the remote to turn on from cold! [07:05] well actually [07:05] mceusb2 remotes can do that too [07:05] O RLY [07:05] at least in dapper it worked [07:05] for me [07:05] edgy and feisty something broke [07:05]