[12:35] <vidd> got an issue....my gxine plays movies, but the picture is all out of wack....any idea what might cause it?
[12:36] <vidd> the only real difference between this box and others is that it has an intel 64 bit processor
[12:36] <vidd> could that be the cause?
[12:37] <vidd> !launchpad
[12:37] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:41] <aboyousif> checking for GNOME... no
[02:41] <aboyousif> configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries
[02:41] <aboyousif> 
[02:41] <aboyousif> what libraries should i have ?
[02:47] <Pumpernickel> The development libraries for the package's dependencies.
[03:03] <W8TAH> hi folks -- the website i am on wants the following plugin application x-mplayer2 to play a video stream -- i cant seem to find x-mplayer2 in synaptic -- is there an appropriate replacement?
[03:05] <administrador> alguien habla espaol?
[03:05] <Pumpernickel> mozilla-mplayer or mozilla-plugin-clx should work.
[03:05] <Pumpernickel> !es
[03:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:05] <W8TAH> thanks
[03:06] <administrador> Pumpernickel:  thank you very much, that was so kind of you
[03:06] <Pumpernickel> err, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[03:06] <W8TAH> cool
[03:08] <aroo> Is there some sort of "commit" command that I have to use for my laptop to honor ndiswrapper settings after reboot? My wireless card is working perfectly but I have to manually modprobe after each reboot
[03:08] <aroo> Nevermind!
[03:43] <pkundu> hi I want to change the font size and color of the console I get by pressing Ctl+Alt+F1-F6. How can I do it?
[03:46] <vidd> pkundu, i dont think you can....
[03:54] <GrueTamer> pkundu: some config file somewhere controls that
[03:54] <GrueTamer> ill try find it
[04:06] <limbert65> Good evening.  Any quick tips as to stopping the screen saver from kicking in when watching a DVD with gXine?
[04:15] <pkundu> thnx GrueTamer
[04:15] <pkundu> I am looking for TUI like one we get in Open SuSe or knoppix
[04:15] <GrueTamer> i still havent found the file that controls them yet
[04:17] <pkundu> yes me too...........thought os changing PS1 in /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:17] <pkundu> but it only changes the prompt
[04:23] <limbert65> Found it.  Editing ~/.gxine/config, gui.windowedmode_unblank:1 (think that only works in windowed mode, not full screen, but that's better than nothing)
[05:20] <cellofellow> hi
[08:46] <jiaaj> is it strange that xubuntu runs really slowly on my macbook pro?
[08:47] <TheSheep> jiaaj: what is slow?
[08:47] <jiaaj> the whole system in general
[08:48] <maxamillion> jiaaj: yes, its very strange ... i installed xubuntu on my old iBook G4 and it was noticably faster then OS X
[08:49] <jiaaj> would there be any way for me to tell you anything that would help you help me speed it up?
[08:49] <jiaaj> did that make any sense at all?  haha
[08:51] <maxamillion> jiaaj: check the process manager (located in applications->system) and see what is eating your resources
[08:52] <jiaaj> ok this would require rebooting my computer and who does that anymore anyway haha
[08:53] <jiaaj> i don't even know why im in here, i don't particularly need linux for anything at the moment
[08:56] <maxamillion> uhmm... ok
[09:25] <shiftplusone_> Hey, how would I edit the 'system' menu?
[09:27] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: use the menu editor ... i think its in applications->settings
[09:28] <shiftplusone_> yeah but there are a few enties: settings, 'system', about and quit..... how would I edit the system one?
[09:29] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: uhmm... don't know, but that's strange
[09:30] <shiftplusone_> my whole thing might be different because I installed a command-line version of ubuntu then just installed xfce4.... so that might not be exactly xubuntu....
[09:31] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: ah, yes ... your setup is _very_ different
[09:31] <shiftplusone_> aren't the entries stored somewhere as .desktop files?
[09:31] <maxamillion> xfce4 is just core xfce4, xubuntu is customized quite a bit
[09:31] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: i think they are .xml files in ~/.config/xfce4/ somewhere
[09:32] <shiftplusone_> no, I mean the system entries, not the xfce specific ones....
[09:33] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: system is part of the xfce menu
[09:33] <shiftplusone_> I remember I had to make a .desktop file somewhere to add an entry.... was just wondering if anyone knows what I am talking about.
[09:34] <shiftplusone_> well... there's 1 xml file with 1 entry.
[09:34] <shiftplusone_> suppose that's a sart
[09:34] <shiftplusone_> actually it's a .menu... but it's in xml format.
[09:35] <maxamillion> ah, ok
[09:35] <maxamillion> my mistake
[09:36] <shiftplusone_> does the xubuntu-desktop package install much junk that will never be needed?
[09:36] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: only thing it installs that i don't use is thunderbird
[09:36] <shiftplusone_> what about gnome and kde libs?
[09:36] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: well ... that and xfburn but that's because i use wodim to burn cds
[09:37] <maxamillion> shiftplusone_: i think a couple gnome-libs for automated tasks
[09:37] <shiftplusone_> ah... I found what I was talking about... /usr/share/applications/
[09:38] <shiftplusone_> maxamillion, well.... thanks, I'll be off.
[09:38] <shiftplusone_> 'night
[11:53] <PsyKid> anyone willing to help please ?
[11:58] <TheSheep> !ask | PsyKid
[11:58] <ubotu> PsyKid: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:58] <PsyKid> i`m trying to install xubuntu with WUBI
[11:58] <PsyKid> but when it loads
[11:58] <PsyKid> it says : unable to mount /sys , and lather then : unable to unmount /dev/sda1 , for the process to complete
[12:00] <logmein> I have a computer with radeon 9600 graphics card and when I load up xubuntu I can't get any picture no matter what
[12:00] <logmein> I think it might be the monitor perhaps
[12:00] <TheSheep> logmein: try alt+ctrl+f1
[12:01] <TheSheep> PsyKid: what's wubi?
[12:01] <PsyKid> Wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users that will bring you into the Linux world with a few clicks. Wubi allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu as any other application.
[12:01] <logmein> TheSheep: I tried that and it won't work...
[12:01] <TheSheep> logmein: do you have another graphics card in that computer?
[12:06] <logmein> woah it loaded right
[12:06] <logmein> maybe I had it in wrong sort of cd drive =)
[12:07] <logmein> always annoys me when computers have more than one
[12:07] <logmein> TheSheep: going to go try it out thx
[12:22] <logmein> what is # for drwxr-xr-x?
[12:22] <logmein> nvm I found this http://wsabstract.com/script/script2/chmodcal.shtml
[12:37] <Curley_Sue> hi all. has anyone good experience on using xubuntu on a laptop where power management is needed (like suspend 2 RAM and hibernation)? which program takes care of that?
[01:17] <Curley_Sue> hi all. has anyone good experience on using xubuntu on a laptop where power management is needed (like suspend 2 RAM and hibernation)? which program takes care of that?
[01:21] <dom> i would suggest to try it with the live-cd because it really depends on your hardware
[01:27] <skeff> hi there! I remember trying both i386 and amd64 flavours of Ubuntu on my Athlon 64 3400+ machine. I experienced that the amd64 version was MUCH faster in things like rendering 2d graphics, which is the most noticable thing.  Now I run i386 Ubuntu Feisty on an old laptop (with no 64bit cpu) and this OS feels very slow too.  Shouldn't Ubuntu be as responsive as Windows on the same hardware? Shouldn't Xubuntu have something like a i686 flavour, if that would
[01:27] <skeff> speed up the experience?
[01:29] <Curley_Sue> dom was that for my question? which program handles the suspend... in regular ubuntu installation it's gnome-power-manager but i guess that's gnome based...
[02:04] <logmein> hmm there is this computer that uses wireless and I'm installing xubuntu on it
[02:04] <logmein> but I need the dependencies to compile ndiswrapper
[02:04] <logmein> I could copy all them over on usb having to search endlessly
[02:04] <logmein> or hows about I connect my wireless laptop running xubuntu into the other computer temporarily
[02:05] <logmein> how would I route that though?
[02:09] <kalikiana> logmein, Why would you need to search endlessly? Just look at the dependencies and if you're lucky you already have them on another machine, ready to copy.
[02:09] <logmein> I have to compile ndiswrapper so I need all sorts of stuff
[02:10] <logmein> besides ipw3945d wireless card on other box isn't a ndiswrapper type so I could put it in correct modes, I've always wanted to use it as a wireless bridge
[02:10] <TheSheep> logmein: just add apropriate routes with 'ip r'
[02:10] <logmein> ipr?
[02:12] <TheSheep> man ip
[02:17] <logmein> all I need to know is how to connect eth0 to eth1 :/
[02:18] <TheSheep> logmein: by setting routing between them
[02:18] <logmein> nothing easy like ifup eth0 > ifup eth1?
[02:19] <logmein> ..that was a joke, I know that won't work...
[02:19] <TheSheep> argh
[02:20] <logmein> blarrghh
[02:22] <logmein> I also have this same problem posted here: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/27861-cant-use-eth0-eth1-same-time.html
[02:22] <logmein> at least I think I have that..
[02:22] <TheSheep> logmein: I can try to walk you through it
[02:22] <logmein> I can't have eth0 and eth1 up at same time..
[02:23] <TheSheep> logmein: why not?
[02:23] <logmein> like if I pull ethernet cord out it doesn't switch to wireless
[02:23] <logmein> unless I go in and disable both then mark wireless under network
[02:23] <logmein> I think that is normal
[02:24] <logmein> but what were you going to say?
[02:24] <TheSheep> logmein: you have wireless on it, right?
[02:24] <logmein> yep
[02:24] <TheSheep> logmein: can you enable wired at the same time?
[02:24] <TheSheep> it doesn't matter if it has net or not, only if the interface is up
[02:25] <logmein> I don't really know.. how would I like use both and know I am
[02:25] <logmein> ifconfig shows both there
[02:25] <logmein> lets just assume I do
[02:25] <TheSheep> ok, you have crossed ethernet cable?
[02:25] <logmein> check
[02:25] <TheSheep> connect the two computers
[02:26] <logmein> done
[02:26] <TheSheep> now, on the one that has wireless, configure a static ip number on the wired interface, say 172.168.0.1
[02:26] <TheSheep> with net mask 255.255.0.0
[02:27] <TheSheep> 192
[02:27] <TheSheep> sorry
[02:27] <TheSheep> 192.168.0.1
[02:27] <TheSheep> unless the wireless uses an ip from that range
[02:27] <TheSheep> then use
[02:28] <TheSheep> 172.16.0.1 or something
[02:28] <TheSheep> logmein: got it?
[02:29] <TheSheep> ping?
[02:30] <logmein> checking
[02:30] <logmein> had to get power cord plugged in too, didn't want it runny out of battery
[02:31] <logmein> running I mean
[02:31] <logmein> ok got that setup
[02:31] <logmein> what next?
[02:32] <TheSheep> open a terminal, and do:
[02:32] <TheSheep> ah, sorry
[02:32] <TheSheep> what is the address you used?
[02:34] <logmein> for which one?
[02:34] <logmein> 192.168.0.1 = laptop, 192.168.0.2 = desktop
[02:34] <logmein> what do I set for the laptops default gateway?
[02:34] <logmein> I left it blank
[02:35] <TheSheep> logmein: and what is the ip address you got for the wireless?
[02:35] <logmein> 192.168.1.15 I think
[02:35] <TheSheep> logmein: what netmask?
[02:35] <logmein> 255.255.255.0 and gateway 192.168.1.1
[02:35] <TheSheep> ok
[02:36] <TheSheep> laptop is the machine with wireless, right?
[02:36] <logmein> yep
[02:36] <logmein> else I'd plug it directly into router
[02:36] <TheSheep> ok, for the desktop, set the gateway to 192.168.0.1
[02:36] <logmein> done
[02:36] <TheSheep> ok, that's all on this end, now for the laptop
[02:37] <TheSheep> logmein: can you pastebin the result of the 'route' command?
[02:37] <TheSheep> logmein: or 'ip route'
[02:37] <logmein> ok
[02:37] <TheSheep> on the laptop, of course
[02:41] <logmein> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25955/
[02:42] <TheSheep> funny, you have two networks on eth1 :)
[02:42] <TheSheep> nevermnd
[02:42] <logmein> I do..?
[02:43] <TheSheep> logmein: I just found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/ipmasq
[02:44] <logmein> so do I use that?
[02:44] <TheSheep> logmein: we will try to go raw first
[02:44] <TheSheep> logmein: ok, do this:  sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[02:44] <logmein> ok
[02:45] <TheSheep> logmein: now this: echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[02:45] <logmein> I'm going to get on laptop and connect in be easier to read
[02:47] <logmein> back
[02:48] <logmein> what after that second command?
[02:49] <TheSheep> logmein: check if you have internet on the desktop :)
[02:50] <logmein> doesn't appear so
[02:50] <TheSheep> logmein: can you do 'ping 192.168.0.1' on the desktop?
[02:50] <logmein> yes I can
[02:51] <TheSheep> logmein: you have connection?
[02:51] <logmein> and I'm logged in on the wireless talking to you
[02:51] <logmein> is that a problem?
[02:52] <TheSheep> no
[02:52] <TheSheep> logmein: does that ping command show something?
[02:52] <TheSheep> logmein: like  64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.380 ms
[02:52] <logmein> it says 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1
[02:52] <logmein> repeatedly
[02:53] <TheSheep> ok, ctrl+c it
[02:53] <logmein> didn't get any output from those two commands you listed
[02:54] <logmein> so assume that's working
[02:54] <TheSheep> logmein: yes
[02:54] <TheSheep> logmein: how about 'ping 192.168.1.1' on the desktop?
[02:55] <logmein> that works
[02:55] <logmein> obviously since I'm able to get online heh
[02:55] <TheSheep> on the desktop?
[02:55] <logmein> ohh ok
[02:56] <logmein> yeah that's up so most likely issue with my router not wanting to answer anything not using dhcp
[02:56] <logmein> it does that, don't know why
[02:56] <TheSheep> logmein: ???
[02:57] <logmein> let me see if I can change setting on there
[02:58] <TheSheep> logmein: am I imagining the connections right?   desktop-eth0---crossed-rj45---eth0-laptop-eth1---wireless---Internet
[02:58] <logmein> I use 192.168.1.0 for my network scheme
[02:58] <logmein> so shouldn't I use the same for other?
[02:58] <TheSheep> no
[02:58] <logmein> ah wait you want to do 255.255.0.0 so probably not matter right
[02:58] <TheSheep> wait, wait, you have access to the router configuration?
[02:58] <logmein> yes you got it right
[02:59] <logmein> yes I do
[02:59] <TheSheep> ok, then we don't need masquerading :)
[02:59] <logmein> that's why I wondered what the heck that was
[02:59] <logmein> but we still might need it...
[02:59] <TheSheep> logmein: that was a trick to make the router see both computers as a single ip
[02:59] <logmein> because I don't know how to configure my router so we don't
[03:00] <TheSheep> logmein: ok, do 'iptables -F' and try that 'iptables blahblahblha MASQUERADE' on the eth0
[03:00] <logmein> already did..
[03:01] <TheSheep> did it work?
[03:01] <logmein> ohh wait I see what you mean
[03:02] <logmein> still nothing on the desktop
[03:02] <TheSheep> logmein: pastebin the: iptables -L   please
[03:03] <TheSheep> (please is not part of the command :) )
[03:04] <logmein> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25961/
[03:05] <test3r> nice we got our own pastebin now
[03:05] <logmein> been having it :P
[03:06] <test3r> nochit?  shows how often i have a pastable question.
[03:08] <TheSheep> logmein: hey, I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing
[03:09] <test3r> can u use a proxy for that, sheep?
[03:09] <logmein> ooh that looks nice
[03:09] <TheSheep> test3r: yes, that would be a solution too
[03:09] <test3r> like, a private internal proxy that would cache the wifis requs?
[03:09] <test3r> OK, yeah, just checking   =D
[03:10] <TheSheep> test3r: but installing squid just for this would be a little overkill imho
[03:10] <TheSheep> logmein: I think you can skip the dhcp
[03:10] <test3r> for one person- perhaps.  if he would enable others net access it might b worth the time
[03:10] <TheSheep> logmein: and you don't need the hub if you have a crossed cable
[03:10] <TheSheep> test3r: but proxy would only forward http
[03:11] <test3r> there is no way to have it do any type of files?
[03:11] <test3r> like - * request From 192.168.0.10  = cache & send ?
[03:12] <test3r> hak it 2 do that    =D
[03:12] <test3r> lol.
[03:12] <TheSheep> test3r: files?
[03:12] <test3r> right.  like any traffix req from [ IP ]  = cache&forward
[03:12] <test3r> isnt that like a tokn network?
[03:12] <test3r> neway?
[03:13] <TheSheep> test3r: I believe I don't fully comprehend your tongue, sir
[03:13] <test3r> a Token network setup?
[03:13] <test3r> where all comp all get all data it is just passed on
[03:13] <test3r> ?
[03:13] <TheSheep> that's not how token ring switching works >_<
[03:14] <test3r> well it works with a ID # too f course
[03:14] <test3r> then puter knows which pax it wants
[03:15] <test3r> then when it gets pack thats not for its own ID #
[03:15] <test3r> it says "NO, U" and passes it
[03:16] <TheSheep> test3r: we are trying to set up masquerade, which is a kind of NAT switching -- that is, the packets form the desktop get re-labelled and forwarded as packets from the laptop, and any traffic sent in response to it is sent back to the desktop
[03:16] <TheSheep> test3r: you are confusing at least 3 different layers of network
[03:16] <test3r> yeah id like to do that too
[03:16] <test3r> but i though that was wi/ MAC addy?
[03:16] <TheSheep> test3r: what you described here is the ethernet layer
[03:16] <logmein> computer to computer is not with mac addresses, that is switches
[03:17] <TheSheep> test3r: we are switchig in the IP layer
[03:17] <test3r> ooooooo
[03:17] <TheSheep> logmein: well, it's always in all 7 layers :)
[03:18] <test3r> not Every ethernet type
[03:18] <test3r> it is a token ring style ethernet / LAN setup
[03:18] <test3r> prob with null modems
[03:18] <test3r> it is more than likely not used at all any more
[03:18] <test3r> now we have routers.
[03:18] <TheSheep> test3r: google for ISO-OSI :)
[03:19] <logmein> I'm glad I didn't ask gramps there for help with my lappytop :)
[03:20] <logmein> but then again still no connection
[03:20] <test3r> this "Gramps" came one step away from faking his MAC last night
[03:21] <test3r> with This wifi.
[03:21] <logmein> ah TheSheep think you left out the -s part after POSTROUTING
[03:21] <test3r> it would b done
[03:21] <test3r> if it didnt crach DHCPD
[03:21] <test3r> by some documnted bug. i have a link if your interested.
[03:22] <TheSheep> test3r: no, thanks, I'm not as experienced ;)
[03:22] <test3r> how do i keep src out of our control from crashing?
[03:22] <TheSheep> logmein: the source doesn't matter in this case
[03:22] <TheSheep> logmein: there is even a comment to this effect on the wiki
[03:22] <test3r> you dont - thats how.  =(   luckily - my bud has a dif card 4 me to try.
[03:22] <logmein> oh ok
[03:23] <TheSheep> logmein: we just did it on the wrong interface, I think
[03:23] <TheSheep> or not
[03:23] <logmein> ah crap eth1 is ethernet
[03:23] <TheSheep> no, wait, eth1 is the wifi, right?
[03:23] <TheSheep> haha
[03:23] <logmein> your right... :/
[03:24] <test3r> no
[03:24] <test3r> ath0 is wifi
[03:24] <test3r> or wifi0
[03:24] <logmein> used to working on my brothers laptop his has opposite with eth1 and eth0
[03:24] <test3r> ath0 is the hardware ref.
[03:24] <test3r> if ur refing it from an app
[03:24] <test3r> say
[03:24] <test3r> kismet
[03:24] <test3r> call it wifi0
[03:24] <TheSheep> logmein: you can change it in /etc/iftab ;)
[03:24] <test3r> it will like that
[03:24] <logmein> so I do iptables -F then iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[03:25] <test3r> eth is your ethernet wire port
[03:25] <test3r> your 10/100
[03:26] <logmein> how do I clear iptables?
[03:26] <TheSheep> logmein: iptables -t nat -F
[03:26] <logmein> that stuff in /proc isn't permanent if I reboot right
[03:26] <TheSheep> logmein: none of the things we do is permanent
[03:27] <logmein> ok
[03:27] <TheSheep> logmein: until you do iptables-save
[03:27] <logmein> ok
[03:28] <logmein> and I don't need to do that command?
[03:28] <TheSheep> no
[03:29] <logmein> well I did iptables -t nat -F then did iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[03:30] <logmein> still nothing
[03:30] <logmein> should I try bringing the interfaces down then up?
[03:30] <TheSheep> logmein: shouldn't matter
[03:30] <TheSheep> logmein: what does iptables -t nat -L say?
[03:31] <logmein> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25963/
[03:32] <TheSheep> looks good
[03:33] <TheSheep> logmein: say, what netmask does the desktop have?
[03:34] <logmein> 255.255.255.0
[03:34] <logmein> is that bad?
[03:36] <TheSheep> logmein: no, good
[03:36] <TheSheep> logmein: same on laptop?
[03:36] <TheSheep> ah, right, I save the routing table :)
[03:36] <logmein> yep
[03:36] <TheSheep> s/save/saw
[03:37] <logmein> huh?
[03:37] <TheSheep> logmein: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   shows 1 ?
[03:37] <logmein> yep
[03:37] <logmein> wait is that a 1 or l
[03:37] <TheSheep> 1
[03:37] <logmein> nah kidding its a 1
[03:38] <TheSheep> and on the desktop, you have ping to 192.168.0.1 but not to 192.168.1.1
[03:50] <logmein> yes that is working
[03:51] <logmein> but pinging 192.168.1.1 from desktop doesn't work... think it did before I switched eth1 with eth0
[03:54] <TheSheep> if it did, then you had network
[03:55] <TheSheep> you just need to add a dns and you are set
[03:59] <test3r> can u add a dns server with ifconfig? how does one do that from CLI?
[04:00] <TheSheep> test3r: no, but you can add it by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[04:01] <logmein> hmm
[04:01] <test3r> aaaaaaa....  Noted.
[04:02] <logmein> yep its working thx
[04:02] <TheSheep> whew
[04:02] <test3r> lol thats all he says    =D
[04:03] <test3r> at least he added the abreviated "thx"
[04:03] <test3r> ;p
[04:03] <TheSheep> test3r: what would you expect? a cake?
[04:03] <test3r> a party!
[04:03] <test3r> boogie down?   =)
[04:03] <TheSheep> especially political ones
[04:04] <test3r> oh come now everyone likes parties - its dumb people that dont like us we dont like
[04:04] <test3r> heh
[04:04] <TheSheep> test3r: you are bored, arn't you?
[04:04] <test3r> at every party theres always the person that dont wana talk to u.
[04:04] <test3r> i just got offa work.
[04:04] <test3r> im windig down. havin a beer etc
[04:04] <TheSheep> online?
[04:05] <test3r> yeah.   =O  =x   its 10AM where im at - EST
[04:05] <test3r> nobodys up. its sun morning.
[04:05] <TheSheep> beer at 10am >_<
[04:05] <test3r> i cant even buy liquer
[04:05] <test3r> in my state
[04:05] <test3r> yes i worked graveyard i woke up at 11PM
[04:06] <test3r> u expect me to Not have a beer?
[04:06] <test3r> i could b in a place giving a guy money for him telling me tings i can already feel inside
[04:06] <TheSheep> whatever
[04:06] <test3r> =)
[04:06] <test3r> but instead im actually Helping others
[04:06] <test3r> instead of taking their money for no reason
[04:06] <TheSheep> test3r: who?
[04:06] <test3r> so that makes US
[04:07] <test3r> a cut above Them
[04:07] <test3r> c     XD
[04:07] <test3r> well - the guy would be whatever religion u see fit that "passes the collection plate"
[04:08] <test3r> im not sure how many there r nor do i rly care
[04:08] <test3r> religion aint my bag, baby.
[04:09] <test3r> ur kids might actualy Learn something being around me instead of - well - im not going there
[04:09] <TheSheep> test3r: I meant: who are you helping? :)
[04:09] <test3r> well i wanted to help Someone - but u helped that Guy. and thats all there was
[04:09] <TheSheep> sorry about that
[04:09] <TheSheep> test3r: the next one is yours
[04:09] <test3r> s'OK.  i didnt know what he was on about neway
[04:09] <test3r> lol
[04:09] <test3r> get a router  ;p
[04:10] <test3r> 
[04:10] <test3r> u can get a wired router for prob $10 now
[04:10] <test3r> my old leet netgear is prob worth only $10    =(
[04:11] <test3r> hey - i have the opportunity to test a 3COM wifi card
[04:11] <test3r> to see if i an do with it what we want to do-  have u heard anything about success/horror with those?
[04:12] <test3r> when i googled "macchanger 3com"  there were no Red Flags, so I can only assume it will go smooth
[04:15] <test3r> do you what id have to do to get that up when i boot with it?
[04:16] <test3r> should i just boot with it, goto synaptic, and search '3com' ?
[04:17] <TheSheep> it should work out of the box
[04:17] <TheSheep> !wifi | test3r
[04:17] <ubotu> test3r: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:17] <TheSheep> test3r: unless you need some windows drivers, then it's some fun
[04:18] <test3r> =(((    so i might b better off with my madwifi  drivers card even though it cant do Everything I want - maybe?
[04:19] <TheSheep> no idea
[04:20] <TheSheep> test3r: but you are lucky -- you can test it
[04:20] <test3r> omg
[04:20] <test3r> i hope he has prism64
[04:20] <test3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards3com
[04:20] <test3r> heard good tings, man. runs tings.
[04:20] <test3r> ^ ^
[04:21] <TheSheep> ting = a meeting of vikings
[04:21] <test3r> nooooooooooooo it says its broke in feisty id b skrewd
[04:22] <test3r> there is also 3com it says that uses the same bleepin driver
[04:22] <test3r> madwifi
[04:22] <test3r> which would do me no good - a bug in it takes out DHCPd when i do what im trying to do
[04:23] <test3r> with dhcp down i dont know what to do from there
[04:23] <test3r> it makes its changes but then can never connect anything because it cant eve r  resolv it reads
[04:24] <test3r> the lights on the modem themself blink as connected, but there is no net that i can get at that poind
[04:24] <test3r> point
[04:26] <TheSheep> test3r: can't you use static ip?
[04:26] <test3r> its not that big a deal - rly. nobody in their right mind configures a network wht MAC adddy access control anymore
[04:26] <test3r> no im trying to spoof my MAC   ^ ^
[04:26] <test3r> =)
[04:27] <test3r> thats wat 'macchanger' does.
[04:27] <vidd_laptop> test3r, why not??
[04:27] <TheSheep> yes, but why you need dhcp for that?
[04:27] <test3r> but unfortunately, there is a documented bug with it all
[04:27] <test3r> well
[04:27] <test3r> to connect afterword sheep
[04:27] <test3r> a changed mac addy does me no good if i cant resolv w/a host
[04:28] <test3r> and ur using madwifi as your driver?
[04:28] <test3r> wat is ur chipset?
[04:28] <TheSheep> test3r: you can specify dns manually
[04:29] <vidd_laptop> test3r, i use MAC filtering on my home network....
[04:29] <vidd_laptop> in combination with wep
[04:29] <test3r> yes i set myself to 192.168.0.10
[04:29] <test3r> just to do it
[04:29] <test3r> but didnt work
[04:29] <test3r> it set it
[04:30] <test3r> but it was a broadcast ip i thini it said? i wasnt on a network.
[04:30] <test3r> =D
[04:30] <test3r> did i have to set the essid first?
[04:30] <test3r> hey - this is my first distro
[04:30] <test3r> =)
[04:31] <test3r> i think im doin pretty good here, mmm?
[04:31] <test3r> so wats is it i missed?  msg me plz! ima have a smoke quik
[04:34] <swhalen> Hello
[04:34] <swhalen> im trying to use the live cd on an oold comp
[04:35] <swhalen> but the top and bottom pannels crash
[04:35] <swhalen> any help?
[04:35] <Toshibi> Morning
[04:35] <swhalen> hello
[04:36] <swhalen> have you ever heard of the xface pannels crashing
[04:36] <Toshibi> Not familiar with that problem
[04:36] <Toshibi> What's going on?
[04:37] <Toshibi> Have you checked Launchpad?
[04:37] <Toshibi> Which version are you running?
[04:38] <swhalen> when it boots with the live cd...there are no pannels...after x loads i see to black bars at top and bottom then a desktop with no pannels
[04:38] <Toshibi> Hold on a sec...
[04:38] <swhalen> this cd works fine on other mechines
[04:38] <Toshibi> Have you attempted right clicking on the desktop and going into the Settings?
[04:41] <swhalen> i only see desktop settings
[04:41] <Toshibi> User Interfae Settings?
[04:42] <swhalen> nope
[04:42] <Toshibi> Hmmm
[04:42] <swhalen> just create folder launcher and desktop settings
[04:44] <Toshibi> I'm checking some stuff
[04:44] <Toshibi> Does this happen every time? This is from the LiveCD that it happens, right?
[04:45] <swhalen> yes on the live cd...but only on this comp
[04:47] <Toshibi> What sort of Video Card are you using in this machine?
[04:48] <swhalen> ATI Radeon 7500 lol new card in old box..im installing this for a friend
[04:49] <Toshibi> In the Settings sub-heading on the XFCE Menu, do you see Settings Manager?
[04:49] <swhalen> i have no xface menu
[04:49] <Toshibi> Oh
[04:49] <swhalen> thats the main issue
[04:50] <Toshibi> Not even on right click on the desktop backgroud?
[04:50] <swhalen> no pannels on top or buttom
[04:50] <Toshibi> Right....
[04:50] <swhalen> just desktop settings
[04:50] <Toshibi> 7.04?
[04:50] <swhalen> yes
[04:53] <swhalen> i may just try an install and do alt-F2 and apt-get upgrade
[04:54] <Toshibi> Or, you can alt F2 and type in xfce4-panel
[04:56] <Toshibi> alt F2 -> xfce4-panel &
[04:58] <Toshibi> Let me know if that worked so I can put it in my bag o' tricks
[04:58] <swhalen> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[04:58] <swhalen> it loaded...but no pannels
[04:58] <Toshibi> try killall xfce4-panel
[05:00] <swhalen> no processes killed
[05:00] <swhalen> when i run xfce4-pannel is gives be a warning
[05:01] <Toshibi> What does it say?
[05:01] <swhalen> Gtk-WARNING  ** : cannot open display
[05:03] <Toshibi> Hmmm
[05:05] <Toshibi> I'm afraid I'm out of my depth on this question
[05:06] <Toshibi> alt F2 again and type in startx
[05:20] <swhalen> x already started
[05:21] <swhalen> and it couldn't format hda with ext3
[05:21] <Toshibi> Oh, that..
[05:22] <swhalen> but windows can?
[05:22] <Toshibi> if you can get to the XFCE Settings manager then you go to File Manager go to the Advanced Tab and then click on Configure
[05:23] <Toshibi> Then uncheck the first two boxes on that
[05:24] <swhalen> well....im wondering if id have better luck with the alt installcd?
[05:24] <Toshibi> It's attempting to mount the volumes when it's also attempting to format them
[05:24] <Toshibi> You may
[05:30] <Howdy125> If I double the size of my swap partition will Linux actually use the full amount if needed ?
[05:33] <Howdy125> Reason I ask is because I only have 128 megs of ram and a 374 meg swap and some very large web pages seem to send my computer into a rampage trying to make room for the data .. :(
[05:49] <kalikiana> Howdy125, Linux will use the full swap if needed. But it's slower than RAM ;)
[05:51] <elbing> why firefox don't open my home page and try open "www.u%.com"?
[05:53] <kalikiana> elbing, Maybe firefox is opening your last session?
[05:54] <elbing> ah
[05:55] <elbing> it's not the problem, the problem is starter (gdesklet), it says firefox %u as rest of launchers xD
[05:55] <elbing> ok ok
[05:55] <elbing> thanks kalikiana
[05:55] <kalikiana> Ah. ok :)
[06:06] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[06:06] <assasukasse> i have a problem with a pc
[06:06] <assasukasse> the sound card doesn't work
[06:06] <assasukasse> how can i fix it?
[06:08] <vidd_laptop> assasukasse, when you say it doesnt work....have you made sure that the driver is installed?
[06:08] <vidd_laptop> and that there is not an application using it already/
[06:09] <assasukasse> vidd_laptop: how do i check the driver is there
[06:09] <assasukasse> nothing is using already
[06:10] <vidd_laptop> what does lspci say your sound card is?
[06:21] <Merchelo> is there a way in which i can interact with the menu, without using a mouse?
[06:24] <kalikiana> Merchelo, With the arrow and return keys I suppose.
[06:24] <kalikiana> Merchelo, And maybe 'xfdesktop --menu' is helpful.
[06:25] <Merchelo> nah, it's ctrl+esc to get the menu up, and then navigate it with the arrow keys
[06:53] <test3r> i nominate we change our oficial start sound to Def Leppard sample
[06:53] <test3r> ;D
[06:54] <test3r> can some1 get that Cleared for us? thx.
[06:54] <test3r> u know jus clear up dat copywrite etc
[06:56] <test3r> Actually - truthfully - their drummer is my Hero. he has one arm - and hacked himself a kit
[06:56] <test3r> Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeespect.
[06:57] <test3r> np> defr leppard - gods of war
[06:57] <test3r> lol - it more def than the def leppard - TYPO. sry.
[07:06] <test3r> hey there is samples on the end of this trak
[07:06] <test3r> about stooopid things im not going to type
[07:06] <test3r> kus it would b....  dumb.
[07:07] <test3r> kus 'they' can & will read this
[07:07] <test3r> anyway the samples have to do with recent shenanigans with certain offices
[07:07] <test3r> and the rest of the world
[07:07] <test3r> and how they disagree with one dork
[07:08] <test3r> that messed up alot of stuff - possily for his daddy.
[07:08] <test3r> im sure thats all i have to say.
[07:10] <test3r> besides - that drummer sure owns all of us with one arm playin how he does
[07:11] <test3r> ez all     =)
[07:36] <slow-motion> how do i turn it of that every time i insert an audio cd gxine opens?
[08:17] <tromoly> i updated the nvidia drivers on my Xubuntu install yesterday, and it's giving me an error saying that XServer can't start. The output log says "the Nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631." I can get to the CLI, but the GUI won't launch. Any ideas?
[08:24] <Eamonn> I have a a bit of a problem starting Xfce, I have the distro installed on my laptop, but I had to remove the HD and install xubuntu in another system as my laptop doesn't have a cd drive
[08:25] <Eamonn> and now it doesn't recognize that I have a screen
[08:26] <Eamonn> If I delete /etc/x11/xorg.conf will it remake it properly?
[08:45] <Eamonn> nvm, got it runnign :)
[09:37] <thrashyy> Hey, I'm installing xubuntu but after entering the initial set up info and starting installation I get: "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of ide2 master (hdc) failed xubuntu" Anyone know whats up?
[09:37] <Pumpernickel> bug 107259
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259
[09:38] <thrashyy> Thanks a lot
[09:44] <tromoly> try erasing the disc as RAW and installing again, I had the same problem and erasing the disc cured it
[09:50] <godless> You only need to manually unmount the disk(s)
[09:51] <godless> it's a bad bug though; I think everyone I've gotten to install xubuntu since 7.04 has run into it
[09:56] <godless> It should at least be very clearly documented so that new users will see it when downloading the image... I can't imagine how many users have given up on installing xubuntu because of this
[10:02] <vidd_laptop> godless, is that issue only with the live cd?
[10:02] <vidd_laptop> because i've installed like 50 times, and never had that issue
[12:09] <thrashyy> Could someone tell me the command to reboot via shh/putty?