[12:19] <eps_> I'm wondering why there is no clear statement of what edubuntu is on the website (or one that I can find easily)
[12:22] <eps_> "What are the differences between Ubuntu and Edubuntu?
[12:22] <eps_> Take the tour of Edubuntu. There are many school-related applications installed by default, including TuxPaint, TuxMath, and TuxTyping, among others."
[12:22] <eps_> ^^ that's the only comment at all I can find (off the main page, in the faq)
[12:23] <eps_> just thinking that if people don't know what the point of the distro is they may consider another one; plus clear descriptions make explaining it to people you're giving it to easier.
[12:29] <LaserJock> well, the website will be undergoing a lot of changes soon
[12:30] <LaserJock> we're going to do a lot better now
[12:30] <LaserJock> s/now/in the future/
[03:29] <ctkroeker> Any ideas for Voip on LTSP
[03:31] <ctkroeker> anyone get Skype to work on a edubuntu thin client?
[03:31] <t94xr_> install skype on the server
[03:32] <ctkroeker> I already did, when I load skype on a thin client, it loads, logs in, but when I make a call, it says [no sound device]  although sound output works on mp3s
[03:33] <t94xr_> i have no clue then
[03:34] <ctkroeker> same goes for ekiga, wengo, etc. I found a guide on a novell dev site, but it basically just implements pulse audio which supposedly is in Feisty...
[03:38] <ctkroeker> anyone?
[03:39] <pygi> !weekend
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[03:39] <pygi> and it's 3:30Am
[03:41] <ctkroeker> not here
[03:41] <ctkroeker> 9:30
[03:41] <ctkroeker> pm
[11:50] <RichEd> hi ogra & pygi
[11:50] <ogra> hey
[11:50] <RichEd> ogra: any luck on finding a ubuntu moodle hosting provider ?
[11:58] <pygi> hey RichEd
[11:59] <pygi> RichEd, what will you host?
[11:59] <RichEd> moodle for a external project
[12:16] <ogra> RichEd, http://www.123-reg.co.uk/dedicated-server-hosting/?GCID=S13274x083&keyword=ubuntu looks best i think
[12:16] <RichEd> i'll check it out ... thanks
[12:30] <RichEd> brb ... reboot
[01:01] <stgraber> RichEd: I'm currently at a 20/month dedicated hoster which provides Ubuntu Dapper/Edgy/Feisty OS
[01:02] <stgraber> RichEd: Only problem is the small amount of ram (256MB) but that will be enough for most website I think
[01:02] <ogra> stgraber, i need something to run gutsy on easily ... is it upgradeable ?
[01:03] <stgraber> yes, it's
[01:03] <ogra> (i mean do you have full HW cotrol over the machine i.e. kernel upgrades etc ...)
[01:03] <ogra> cool
[01:03] <stgraber> you can netboot it on their rescue OS in case you've a broken system
[01:03] <stgraber> then fix everything you want on the HD and reboot
[01:04] <ogra> ah, k, thats what we're looking for
[01:04] <ogra> i only have experience with real housing of my own HW and vservers ...
[01:05] <ogra> vservers are no option here indeed
[01:07] <stgraber> ogra: As I can see the order form is in French, but the admin interface is multi-lingual (the one where you can change the reverse, reboot it, set netboot ...) and they ask for the language during the order ...
[01:09] <ogra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475709
[01:09] <ogra> *giggle*
[01:09] <stgraber> about the upgrade, I just had a small problem while upgrading mine from Edgy to Feisty (Feisty wasn't proposed) was that they seem to install an image on the server which was done for one with S-ATA drives but mine was using IDE, then grub didn't install correctly and I had to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst and /boot/grub/device.map
[01:12] <stgraber> ogra: my hoster is www.kimsufi.net (french website) but it's part of www.ovh.com (www.ovh.de for German version) (even if that cheap server is only available on kimsufi.net the admin UI is on www.ovh.com)
[01:17] <RichEd> stgraber: that looks better than the UK price ... ogra does it provide all of what we need ?
[01:17] <ogra> yes
[01:17] <ogra> we can take that as well
[01:18] <RichEd> 20 Euro is better than 39 GBP :)
[01:18] <ogra> indeed
[01:18] <stgraber> you can pay for it monthly if you want, there aren't a reduce if you take it for longer and then can easily try it for a month to see if it does what you want
[01:18] <ogra> its a matter of anestits and his requirements :)
[01:18] <ogra> if we can take a french ne thats fine then
[01:18] <ogra> *one
[01:19] <RichEd> well his argument was UK unless we can show cheaper ... so we can print both price pages to justify our choice
[01:19] <ogra> right
[01:22] <stgraber> ogra: And the good point with the french hosters is that you usually don't have quota, so no risk to have to pay extra fees depending on your bandwidth usage
[01:22] <stgraber> (which is the problem with some servers I manage in Germany)
[01:23] <ogra> yeah
[01:23] <ogra> i have an additioal cheap vserver with no limits for that i serve the bigger stuff from
[06:02] <sbalneav> Morning all
[06:03] <sbalneav> ogra: Ping!
[06:06] <pygi> morning sbalneav
[06:07] <sbalneav> Morning pygi
[06:23] <etank> does the edubuntu alternate cd have an option on it for OEM installs?
[06:27] <sbalneav> etank: Preseeding you mean?  I think so...
[06:30] <etank> sbalneav: the ubuntu alt cd has an option for OEM installs
[06:30] <sbalneav> etank: Since the Edubuntu alt cd's based off the Ubuntu alt cd, then it should be the case.
[06:31] <etank> that is what i thought too
[09:15] <remco> someone available?
[09:29] <remco> Someone available?
[09:30] <remco> Hello?
[09:42] <LaserJock> remco: if you have a question please ask it :-)
[10:55] <sbalneav> Afternoon all