[12:13] <Ze_M> how can i install programs?
[12:13] <Minataku> !adeptfix | sam2
[12:13] <ubotu> sam2: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:13] <Minataku> !install
[12:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:13] <Minataku> Er
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: haha.... brilliant
[12:14] <Minataku> !apt
[12:14] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:14] <sam2> thank
[12:14] <sam2> s
[12:14] <Minataku> !adept | Ze_M
[12:14] <ubotu> Ze_M: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:14] <sam2> so it will pick up where it left off?
[12:15] <Minataku> Dunno
[12:16] <Ze_M> Minataku: using cli?
[12:16] <Minataku> Ze_M: Use !apt or !aptitude for CLI, !adept for GUI
[12:17] <sam2> thanks, that worked
[12:17] <Minataku> apt is pure CLI
[12:17] <Minataku> aptitude is TUI
[12:17] <Minataku> GUI style but in text
[12:17] <Minataku> adept is pure GUI
[12:17] <Ze_M> apt firefox will install firefox?
[12:17] <Gerrit> Hmm. I restarted kdm and now neither my keyboard nor my touchpad seem to be working. Only my mouse is. Strange. I have never seen that before. Restarting X made my keyboard working again, fortunately.
[12:17] <Minataku> Ze_M: apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[12:17] <Ze_M> ok
[12:17] <Ze_M> Minataku: and to update the system through cli?
[12:18] <Gerrit> I need to get used to kubuntu after having used Redhat/Fedora based systems since 2001 (and Suse before that)
[12:18] <Minataku> Dunno that, sorry, let's see if ubotu does
[12:18] <Minataku> !update
[12:18] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:18] <Minataku> That _might_ have it
[12:18] <Minataku> Worth a shot
[12:18] <Dragnslcr> Depends what you mean by "update the system"
[12:19] <Ze_M> Minataku: im asking about using apt-get
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> I believe it's apt-get upgrade to install the latest versions of all installed packages
[12:19] <Ze_M> Dragnslcr: thanks
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Why you'd want to, instead of using Adept, I have no idea
[12:20] <Minataku> CLI is faster and easier
[12:20] <Minataku> Which is faster to delete a file:
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ahh there you are Dragnslcr...need some advice on running that IRC Server script you pointed me to...not being familiar with perl , i wasn't sure what to do
[12:20] <Minataku> A. Open xterm, cd to directory, rm file, hit Ctrl+D
[12:21] <Minataku> B. Open Konq, doubleclick to directory, find icon, right-click, select delete, close Konq, empty trash
[12:21] <Minataku> I warn you, if you say B, it's clue-by-four time
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> B seems a whole lot easier
[12:22] <Minataku> You people are gonna break this thing by the end of the day
[12:22] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Learn Linux, don't use Windows crutches
[12:23] <Minataku> I haven't used a file manager in literally 2 years
[12:23] <Minataku> GUI _or_ TUI
[12:23] <sam2> tui?
[12:23] <Minataku> Text User Interface
[12:23] <Minataku> ncurses and such
[12:23] <sam2> ahh
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> meaning midnight commander
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: I was joking, of course..
[12:24] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Heh
[12:24] <Minataku> Well, I didn't hit ya either way, so
[12:24] <Minataku> X3
[12:24] <Minataku> The clue-by-four is thankfully around here better used in a menacing but not violent fashion
[12:24] <Minataku> XD
[12:26] <sam2> thanks for the help, i'm out
[12:26] <Minataku> Later
[12:27] <Ze_M> what package do i need to install to have the command ifonfig
[12:27] <Ze_M> what package do i need to install to have the command ifconfig
[12:27] <Minataku> That should be there by default
[12:27] <Minataku> That's a critical networking tool
[12:27] <Minataku> !ifconfig
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <Minataku> !info ifconfig
[12:27] <ubotu> Package ifconfig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:27] <Minataku> !network
[12:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:27] <Minataku> Yeah, because wireless is the only kind of network
[12:28] <Minataku> This bot is either valuable or complete sh*t
[12:28] <BluesKaj> !cat5
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cat5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <BluesKaj> heh
[12:28] <Minataku> And it keeps flipping back and forth between it with every friggin' !
[12:29] <Gerrit> I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad and qsynaptics says Synapics Driver 0.14.6 is installed and x shared memory is accesible (it says "good" twice). However, my Synaptics Touchpad is still not doing anything. I read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/README.Debian and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/trouble-shooting.txt.gz as well, and in the latter document, I verified that
[12:29] <arkanabar> Will it seriously mess up KDE if I use the GDM as default display manager?
[12:29] <Gerrit> Ah
[12:29] <Minataku> arkanabar: No
[12:29] <Gerrit> I fixed it
[12:29] <Gerrit> I accidantly turned it off when trying to fix my video mode.
[12:29] <Ze_M> how can i know the ip of a machine?
[12:29] <Minataku> Though that's a really bad DM
[12:30] <yanni_> try that
[12:30] <Minataku> Personally, for single WM/DE systems, xdm is the best
[12:30] <Ze_M> nevermind
[12:30] <Minataku> For multiple WM/DE systems, WDM is very nice
[12:30] <Ze_M> already get it
[12:30] <arkanabar> I'm installing the xubuntu desktop.  It's asking me to select a default DM, and my choices are kdm and gdm.
[12:31] <Minataku> Since neither are tied to any specific idiotic toolkits or libraries other than, I believe, the standard X libs
[12:31] <Minataku> arkanabar: In that case, KDM
[12:31] <Ze_M> is there a package named openssh-server?
[12:31] <Gerrit> Out of curiosity: is there a non-graphical multi-user runlevel in Kubuntu desktop installation?
[12:31] <Minataku> Because GNOME is crap
[12:31] <Ze_M> what is the package name to have sshd?
[12:31] <Minataku> Ze_M: Just OpenSSH, I believe
[12:31] <adaptr> openssh
[12:31] <arkanabar> btw, where/how would I get xdm and/or wdm?
[12:31] <adaptr> openssh-server, if you want sshd
[12:31] <Ze_M> apt-get install openssh ?
[12:31] <Minataku> Gerrit: Check the init.d
[12:32] <adaptr> arkanabar xdm comes with xorg-server, wdm is windowmaker ? so get that
[12:32] <Gerrit> Minataku: Okay.
[12:32] <Gerrit> Another question
[12:32] <Minataku> Or if it doesn't use SysV init anymore, figure out what dumbass system it does use instead :P
[12:32] <ender> anyobne has any idea why dhclient cannot assign an IP address to my wifi adhoc network?
[12:32] <adaptr> Gerrit there is not, disable xdm in a runlevel (say 3) to get one
[12:32] <Minataku> Or make your own runlevel
[12:33] <adaptr> ender because there is no dhcp server running ?
[12:33] <Minataku> Copy over everything from 3 except what launches a DM
[12:33] <ender> but i there is
[12:33] <Minataku> There should be a free one, but the way things tend to be in *buntu, who the hell knows
[12:33] <ender> i have a wired interface eth0 and a wifi eth1
[12:33] <ender> the eth0 gets an ip upon booting
[12:34] <ender> i then set an adhoc wifi connection and dhclient fails to give ip to it
[12:34] <ender> dhclient on eth0 runs smoothly though
[12:34] <mtv> i lost my swap, comp is becoming painfully slow with only 512 mb.  Is there suppose to be a mount point for swap?
[12:34] <adaptr> let's get something straight first: dhclient doesn't give anything to anybody
[12:35] <adaptr> mtv no, run swapon -s to see status, swapon -a to enable all swap partitions defined in fstab
[12:35] <Minataku> mtv: No
[12:35] <ender> then how can i assign an ip to eth1?from some howtos dhclient seems to be the command used
[12:35] <Gerrit> Hmm, why did Kubuntu choose to have the cdrom dependency on by default? Isn't it much more practical to get everything off the internet if possible?
[12:35] <Ze_M> cant find any GUI for nfs
[12:35] <adaptr> ender yes, dhclient gets an IP *from a dhcp server* - the server hands out the IP
[12:35] <Ze_M> in mandriva exists draknfs that is a GUI for nfs like for example exists smb4k for samba
[12:36] <adaptr> ender what command did you run ?
[12:36] <ender> sudo dhclient eth1
[12:36] <adaptr> and your *wireless* interface is actually called *eth1* ? are you positively positive about that ?
[12:36] <ender> I set up the Access point with > sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "ender" mode Ad-Hoc channel 2
[12:37] <adaptr> because I'm willing to bet it isna
[12:37] <ender> it is
[12:37] <xerosis> adaptr: mine is eth1 too
[12:37] <adaptr> damn these kernel changes
[12:37] <Ze_M> is there any web interface to see all kubuntu packages?
[12:37] <adaptr> you mean like packages.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <adaptr> ?
[12:38] <ender> so no idea what the problem might be?
[12:39] <adaptr> look at the dhcp server logs - does it get any requests ?
[12:39] <Ze_M> Minataku: like i thought there is the package openssh-server, without it isnt possible to ssh remotly
[12:40] <Minataku> !info openssh
[12:40] <ubotu> Package openssh does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:40] <Minataku> !sshd
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Minataku> !ssh
[12:40] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:40] <Minataku> Finally
[12:40] <mtv> when i run swapon -s, it displays nothing.  when i run swapon -a i get /dev/disk/by-uuid/cd78c1af-b384-420a-a272-76edd2e82ccb invalid argument
[12:40] <Minataku> This bot is starting to piss me off
[12:40] <Tm_T> Minataku: and why is that?
[12:40] <Minataku> mtv: Your swap probably lost it's UUID
[12:41] <Minataku> Tm_T: Because it's a more convienent target than the entire distribution
[12:41] <mtv> it was probably due to my upgrade from dapper to fiesty i imagine.  Minataki how do i go about getting the UUID?
[12:41] <Minataku> Which is no doubt the true root of all the troubleds
[12:41] <Minataku> :P
[12:42] <Minataku> mtv: Personally, I'd have it in the fstab by device
[12:42] <Minataku> What's that command, sudo fdisk -l I believe
[12:42] <mtv> for example dev/hda5?
[12:42] <Minataku> That should give up the device name of the swap partition
[12:42] <blekos> when i use kernel 2.6.20-16 386 i have wifi but not dual core support, when i use 2.6.20-16 generic,i have dual core support but no wifi
[12:43] <blekos> could u help me?
[12:43] <Minataku> mtv: The swap partition should be labeled as "Linux swap" under type
[12:44] <Minataku> Unless you're like me who somehow screwed it up >.>
[12:44] <Minataku> Apparantly a Linux swap file can be put on ANY partition
[12:44] <Minataku> Be it Type 0x82 or not
[12:44] <Minataku> lol
[12:45] <mtv> Minataku: i have swap under /dev/hda5.  I run swapon -a still get invalid argument
[12:45] <Minataku> mtv: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[12:45] <Minataku> Where you see the UUID cd78c1af-b384-420a-a272-76edd2e82ccb, change that whole first part before the whitespace to /dev/hda5
[12:46] <mtv> i did
[12:46] <Minataku> Now save the file
[12:46] <Minataku> And try swapon -a again
[12:46] <mtv> i already did all that
[12:46] <Minataku> In that case
[12:46] <Minataku> swapon /dev/hda5
[12:46] <Minataku> If THAT fails, remake the swap file with mkswap /dev/hda5
[12:47] <Minataku> It's possible it used the swapfile as a temporary partition and never put it back
[12:47] <mtv> right on Minataku
[12:48] <mtv> swap is not working.  Which is great
[12:48] <mtv> now
[12:48] <Minataku> Sweet
[12:49] <mtv> is there a manual anywhere with all the commands?  With a some detail and a guide for trouble shooting
[12:50] <Minataku> man -k blah
[12:50] <Minataku> The manual pages are an incredible resource
[12:50] <mtv> yes, i would just like it in print though.  I do love the man pages though
[12:50] <Minataku> That command will return any manual pages with "blah" in the name or descriptio
[12:50] <Minataku> Heh
[12:50] <Minataku> Like the old Unix Programmers Manual
[12:50] <Minataku> From V7 and such X3
[12:51] <mtv> i will do a search for those
[12:51] <Minataku> No, no
[12:51] <Minataku> That won't help you in Linux
[12:51] <mtv> i see.
[12:51] <wolferine> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[12:51] <Minataku> It'd only help you in Version 7 of AT&T UNIX
[12:51] <Minataku> XD
[12:51] <wolferine> how can I resolve this?
[12:52] <Minataku> mtv: There's no print manual for Linux
[12:52] <mtv> oh, well i guess it wouldnt help me.
[12:52] <Minataku> It'd probably be far too heavy and cumbersome to use
[12:52] <Minataku> Nah, the print manual for V7 Unix wouldn't help ya unless you had a PDP-11 or something
[12:52] <Minataku> X3
[12:52] <mtv> you may be right.  I guess i will just find a list of all the commands with their functions.  and leave the rest for man
[12:53] <mtv> now my next task, get my damn sound working again
[12:53] <mtv> that upgrade kicked the crap out of a couple things on this computer
[12:54] <Minataku> Heh
[12:54] <Minataku> You seem fairly experienced
[12:54] <Minataku> Why Kubuntu?
[12:54] <mtv> my father likes the look of kubuntu
[12:54] <mtv> i am just over here working on his machine
[12:55] <Minataku> Ah
[12:55] <Minataku> I was gonna say, *buntu is the LAST thing I'd suggest to someone who knows their sh*t
[12:55] <Minataku> I use Gentoo
[12:55] <Minataku> I just help out in here because I'm that kinda guy
[12:55] <Minataku> lol
[12:55] <mtv> yeah that is what i want to jump into next
[12:56] <mtv> i have hooked up most of my family with ubuntu.  I really want learn what makes linux tick.  That way i can help people a little better.
[12:57] <mtv> my first experience with linux was in college with mandrake 8
[12:57] <Minataku> Heehee
[12:57] <Minataku> Yeah, Gentoo is definitely what you want
[12:57] <Minataku> It doesn't shield you from any of the workings
[12:58] <mtv> that is what i heard
[12:58] <Minataku> *buntu welds the hood shut, Gentoo has the racing-style hood where you open it by pulling out a couple metal clips :3
[12:58] <mtv> that is a nice way of putting it
[12:59] <Minataku> Heehee, thank you ^^
[12:59] <Minataku> Really I've just been playing Forza Motorsport 2 for the last week and a half
[12:59] <Minataku> XD
[12:59] <mtv> nice, yeah i havent played my 360 for two weeks since it got banned
[01:00] <Minataku> Ouch, now why were you chipping it anyway?
[01:00] <mtv> same reason i chipped my original xbox, to have xbmc.
[01:01] <Minataku> Heh
[01:01] <mtv> still waiting for something like that to come out for 360
[01:01] <Minataku> You know the XB360 I believe can link to a Linux box using Samba
[01:01] <Minataku> No mods needed
[01:01] <Minataku> Dunno if it's true, but it sounds feasible
[01:02] <mtv> really? i will look into that.  I am really eager to play my hd h264 encodes.  original xbox chokes on that
[01:02] <Minataku> Heh
[01:02] <Minataku> AFAICT, WMV only
[01:02] <Minataku> According to Free60
[01:02] <mtv> well yep basically
[01:02] <Gerrit> What does it mean if a package is greyed out in Adept Installer? (Sun Java 6 Web Start (32 bit))
[01:02] <mtv> i dont even get near wmv
[01:02] <Minataku> Same here
[01:02] <animimotus> hi
[01:03] <Minataku> I _can_ encode to it with ffmpeg
[01:03] <Minataku> I tested that out to see if I could convert an FLV to watch it on my 360
[01:03] <Minataku> I _can_ but it looks like ass
[01:03] <mtv> haha, yeah i hate re-encoding
[01:03] <mtv> everything looks like crapola
[01:03] <Minataku> Since it enlarges to the size of the screen when it's really low quality because I just grabbed them off of adultswim.com
[01:04] <animimotus> someone know why wildcards doesn't work in tar command ? like: sudo tar xjvf *.tar.bz2
[01:04] <Minataku> animimotus: It should
[01:04] <Minataku> If the FLV loads in, you can pluck it out of /tmp
[01:04] <Minataku> Granted, I've tested this only on ASV
[01:04] <mtv> hmmmm....i have never thought about that.  I just have used firefox plugins to nab flv
[01:05] <animimotus> Minataku: ?
[01:05] <animimotus> sorry I haven't understand
[01:10] <trakinas> hello all
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: It should work
[01:10] <Gerrit> Is the list in adept complete, or are there (many) more packages available?
[01:10] <Minataku> !repos
[01:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: sure but it don't :\
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: Maybe *buntu compiles theirs some dumbass way
[01:10] <Minataku> What's the error?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Minataku: ok, thanks
[01:10] <Minataku> Gerrit: np
[01:10] <trakinas> i still have problems to acess any dvd data disk on my device. it mounts and list files okay, but when opening a file or coping to the desktop i get i/o errors.
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: http://pastebin.com/931001
[01:10] <Minataku> animimotus: Could you translate that? XD
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it gives errors...
[01:10] <Minataku> Yeah, but I don't speak French
[01:10] <animimotus> not in the second complete command...
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it's a bash problem :)
[01:10] <Minataku> I can tell they're errors then it complains about them
[01:10] <Gerrit> Hmm, gnumeric is in "science" and not in "office". Funny.
[01:10] <Minataku> Well, there's only six of 'em
[01:10] <Minataku> Just untar then manually XD
[01:10] <animimotus> Minataku: it's for a script...
[01:11] <Minataku> animimotus: You can have a bash script read in each file name into an array or list and have it work them manually
[01:12] <Minataku> You know, it may very well NOT work when there's multiple files
[01:13] <Minataku> I know wildcards work when there's one
[01:13] <Minataku> You may have to do the list idea
[01:13] <Minataku> As for how to get a list, "ls -1" is a great way to get a machine-usable listing
[01:14] <Minataku> I use it for my... ahem... porn directory, the one with too many files in it to use just an asterisk when I want to view them all in the framebuffer
[01:14] <Minataku> lol
[01:14] <Minataku> If I use *, I get "command line too long" or whatever
[01:14] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[01:14] <Gerrit> xargs
[01:14] <animimotus> Minataku: find *.tar.bz2 -exec sudo tar xjvf {} \;
[01:14] <Minataku> So I have to put them all into a list then load the list into fbi
[01:15] <Minataku> animimotus: Sure, that'll work, I guess
[01:15] <animimotus> I guessed me too ^^
[01:15] <Minataku> The find command pisses me off, ever since this idiotic assignment based on using it
[01:15] <animimotus> sorry for the brainstorming
[01:15] <Minataku> animimotus: It's okay
[01:16] <Minataku> Good to flex the headmuscle every once in a while
[01:16] <Minataku> X3
[01:16] <animimotus> thx and have a nice day
[01:16] <Minataku> You too
[01:16] <animimotus> headmuscle, I note ^^
[01:16] <Minataku> Heehee
[01:16] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[01:17] <Minataku> wolferine: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:17] <wolferine> that doesnt work
[01:17] <wolferine> im guessing I need to setup my keyboard keys?
[01:17] <Minataku> Or figure out what key(s) 0xE059 is and stop pressing it (them)
[01:18] <wolferine> Minataku, ill wait for someone who knows a bit about it, but thanks for trying
[01:18] <Minataku> I get that once in a while, it seems to be a completely random event on my system
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: Seriously, figure out what key or key combination makes 0xE059
[01:22] <Minataku> It's a keyboard scancode
[01:22] <Minataku> It doesn't map to anything Linux knows
[01:22] <Minataku> You either need to map it to something or stop pressing it
[01:22] <wolferine> Minataku, i thanked you already
[01:22] <Gerrit> How do I find out what package provides /usr/sbin/cupsd ? In other words, what's the equivalent of 'rpm -qf' for debian packages?
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: You brushed me off
[01:22] <Minataku> !apt
[01:22] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:22] <Minataku> Try that howto, maybe
[01:22] <Gerrit> dpkg won't do it?
[01:22] <Minataku> It might
[01:22] <Minataku> !dpkg
[01:22] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:22] <Gerrit> I didn't find it in http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html
[01:22] <Minataku> Just check the manual pages, screw this bot
[01:22] <Minataku> Try "man dpkg"
[01:22] <Minataku> That SHOULD give you a whole synopsis of every option
[01:22] <Gerrit> Yes
[01:22] <Gerrit> -S seems to be the closest equivalent
[01:22] <Minataku> Whether or not it does around here, who know
[01:22] <Minataku> d
[01:22] <Minataku> *s
[01:22] <Minataku> wolferine: You blew me off in a rather rude manner, implying that I knew nothing about it
[01:22] <Gerrit> Ok.
[01:22] <wolferine> Minataku, milk it all you want
[01:22] <wolferine> ill ask someone else
[01:22] <Gerrit> (to have cups is rather silly for me, for I don't have access to a printer)
[01:22] <Minataku> Someone want to remove this troll?
[01:22] <Minataku> Gerrit: Heh
[01:22] <Minataku> It's probably going to be tied into something else
[01:22] <Minataku> What I like to call "dumbass dependencies"
[01:22] <Minataku> You really seem to know what you're doing too, so why Kubuntu, Gerrit?
[01:24] <Minataku> Gerrit? You still there?
[01:25] <vaidas> what the hell: libwine: Depends: wine but it is not installable?
[01:25] <vaidas> how do I install wine on kubuntu then?
[01:25] <Minataku> vaidas: Install the main package and let it pull dependencies
[01:25] <vaidas> how?
[01:25] <Minataku> Or is that what's failing?
[01:25] <Minataku> Hm
[01:25] <Minataku> Try "sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:26] <Gerrit> Minataku: I'm still there
[01:26] <Minataku> You really seem to know what you're doing too, so why Kubuntu, Gerrit?
[01:26] <vaidas> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:26] <vaidas> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:26] <vaidas> is only available from another source
[01:26] <trakinas> I just want to have my device working. =(( ... i pretty sure it is the way kubuntu acess it... which lib is responsible for it?
[01:26] <Gerrit> Because of the hardware detection
[01:26] <Gerrit> I was in a hurry and needed a working system on my notebook
[01:26] <Minataku> Gerrit: Ah
[01:26] <trakinas> vaidas: apt-cache search wine
[01:26] <Minataku> Well, when you have time, definitely look into Gentoo
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me downlaod and install Adobe Flash Player FRoM the website
[01:27] <Gerrit> Fedora Core 7 didn't properly configure my video (notebook Radeon X700 widescreen)
[01:27] <trakinas> Minataku: Im almost going back to gentoo, btw. :/
[01:27] <Minataku> vaidas: Have you enabled all the !repositories ?
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> im not using firefox, mozilla, or seamonkey, im using Konqueoro
[01:27] <Minataku> trakinas: You should, if you know what you're doing
[01:27] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: AFAIK, no Flash in Konq
[01:27] <Gerrit> Minataku: Gentoo is the one where everything is self-compiled, isn't it?
[01:27] <vaidas> I use kubuntu, how do I enable the repositories?
[01:27] <Minataku> Gerrit: Right
[01:27] <wimpies> does anybody know if there is a 2.2.1 package for Openoffice around ?
[01:27] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: they have instructions there.
[01:27] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: ADAIK?
[01:27] <Minataku> !repositories | vaidas
[01:27] <ubotu> vaidas: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:27] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: As Far As I Know
[01:28] <trakinas> Gerrit: yep.
[01:28] <evsophomore2009> oOo i see
[01:28] <Minataku> !openoffice
[01:28] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:28] <Minataku> !info openoffice.org
[01:28] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:28] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: they have instrcutions where?
[01:28] <Minataku> Nope, Only a patched 2.2.0-1ubuntu3
[01:28] <Minataku> Whatever the hell the patches do, who knows
[01:28] <wimpies> patched might also do the trick
[01:28] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: in the package you will download. but Im not sure flash will work on konq.
[01:29] <Minataku> wimpies: Try it out, I guess
[01:29] <Minataku> If not, try a better distro :P
[01:29] <evsophomore2009> is it possible to download Internet Explorer?
[01:29] <wimpies> where can I find the patched package ?
[01:29] <Gerrit> What advantage would it have for me to use Gentoo?
[01:29] <Minataku> wimpies: Just install it
[01:29] <Minataku> Gerrit: Everything compiled to your exact system and specifications
[01:30] <Gerrit> Hmm, it must take a week to install then.
[01:30] <vaidas> for some reason I have a much simpler adept than in the page
[01:30] <Minataku> Gerrit: 14hrs on a laptop from 2003
[01:30] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: installing flash on konq is kind of tricky. have you looked on google about flash on konqueror?
[01:30] <Minataku> Your mileage may vary
[01:30] <Minataku> If it's a newer system, expect less time
[01:30] <wimpies> I have 2.2.0-1ubunt3 installed already but have this annoying 'recover' bug which seems to be patched according to the debian bug list but I need to patched packaged version ...
[01:30] <trakinas> Minataku: what mileage means? =P
[01:30] <Gerrit> Ok
[01:30] <wimpies> apt-get does seem to return the one i already have
[01:30] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: well im not very good with Kubuntu and the command line, im kinda new, so if its not easy i cant do it
[01:30] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you can.
[01:31] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: just look for it on google first.
[01:31] <Minataku> wimpies: It's possible there is no such patch yet in the *buntu version
[01:31] <revvltn> hi
[01:31] <revvltn> where does Kubuntu keep the packages?
[01:31] <trakinas> youtube works on konq here.
[01:31] <revvltn> and does it remove them afterwards?
[01:31] <revvltn> thanks
[01:31] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[01:31] <revvltn> I'd appreciate anyone helping me
[01:31] <trakinas> revvltn: yes it does. read about apt-get to find out where it does keep the packages
[01:31] <Minataku> trakinas: It's a saying from American commercials for cars, when they quote the fuel efficiency, they give the most optimal numbers and disclaimer it with "Your mileage may vary"
[01:32] <trakinas> ah
[01:32] <trakinas> danke shoen
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i installed WINE
[01:32] <wimpies> Minataku : ... sad ... any idea when the upgrade could become available or what should be done to get it
[01:32] <revvltn> trakinas: why should I read, can't you tell me?
[01:32] <Minataku> wolferine: I already told you how, if you don't want to believe me, go away.
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i want internet explorer, what optiob do i choose to download?
[01:32] <Minataku> revvltn: This is Linux now.
[01:32] <evsophomore2009> it says Windoes XP, Vista
[01:32] <Minataku> You read to learn things
[01:32] <Minataku> People don't do things for you
[01:32] <Gerrit> Two years ago, I spent a week to get everything working on my notebook: Touchpad, ACPI, video, sound and microphone all did not work out-of-the-box with Fedora Core 4. Now, ACPI, video and sound do work out-of-the-box with Kubuntu, touchpad required a few touches and I haven't tested my mic yet. I'm happy that most of it works, and I don't know if it will on Gentoo
[01:33] <wolferine> Minataku, u have been added to my ignore
[01:33] <Minataku> wolferine: As if I care, you were ignoring me before
[01:33] <Minataku> What's different now?
[01:33] <revvltn> Gerrit: before all other distros everything works first on Gentoo
[01:33] <revvltn> so I am afraid you waisted 2 years for nothing
[01:34] <Minataku> With Gentoo you can have absolutely cutting edge
[01:34] <Gerrit> revvltn: What causes that?
[01:34] <Gerrit> Well, cutting edge means unstable too...
[01:34] <Gerrit> or does it?
[01:34] <Minataku> Gerrit: Not at all
[01:34] <Gerrit> Hmm.
[01:34] <Gerrit> I might have a look into it
[01:34] <Minataku> Hardly is there ever a problem in the latest things
[01:34] <revvltn> Gerrit: go to #gentoo, you'll get first hand experience there
[01:34] <Minataku> Typically the latest stuff is very unstable on distros like *buntu because slight changes anywhere cause the whole simplified system to collapse
[01:35] <Minataku> Into a smoldering heap of rubbish
[01:35] <Minataku> Not that it's far from one in the first place
[01:35] <evsophomore2009> !wine
[01:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: The packages, if kept, would probably be in /var somewhere
[01:39] <revvltn> is it this one? /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:39] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[01:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: That would be a good place to look
[01:39] <Minataku> Possibly /var/lib/dpkg as well
[01:39] <nzk> Which is better: GNOME or KDE?
[01:39] <revvltn> oh man
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: They in there?
[01:39] <Minataku> nzk: Neither
[01:39] <Minataku> But of the two, KDE
[01:39] <revvltn> then there's a mismatch between man apt-get and the real dir?
[01:39] <trakinas> Gerrit: my dvd drive works on gentoo but not here
[01:39] <Gerrit> trakinas: Right
[01:39] <vaidas> I do have all the repositories enabled, but I can't find wine, only libwine and libwine-dev
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: It could be that the boob in charge of the apt-get manual page goofed up
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: download netscape plugin
[01:39] <Minataku> Or it hasn't been updated in ?????
[01:39] <trakinas> DONT USE IE
[01:39] <trakinas> hheuee
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you install netscape/mozilla plugin for linux
[01:39] <trakinas> konqueror use those plugins to work with flash.
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: Look where you found them, if they're not where it says they are, then ignore it and keep looking where they are ;3
[01:39] <revvltn> w00t this is confusing
[01:39] <Gerrit> I refrained from updating my FC4 system until now because of the philosophy "If it aint broken, don't fix it". My configuration was working fine, and I didn't see a reason to change. The same could be said now
[01:39] <Minataku> revvltn: If they're in a different place, assume the manual page has an error
[01:39] <Minataku> It's not a mismatch, it's a mistake
[01:39] <Minataku> It happens
[01:39] <Minataku> lol
[01:39] <Minataku> Gerrit: Heh
[01:39] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: i cant use Mozilla, Firerox, Netscape, Opera, Seamonkey...only Konq
[01:39] <Minataku> Gerrit: I prefer "If it ain't broken, take it apart and fix it"
[01:39] <evsophomore2009> because for some reason they ALL close ever 10 secs basically
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: no. you will use the PLUGIN
[01:39] <trakinas> not the browser
[01:39] <revvltn> LMAO@voiding the warranty
[01:39] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: I remember that. You never told me what the error was when it closed.
[01:39] <Minataku> Did you even try?
[01:39] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: you get the plugin for netscape/mozilla.
[01:39] <Minataku> I knew I saw your nick before
[01:39] <francesco_> !it
[01:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:40] <revvltn> any cool guy running Ubuntu in LVM ?
[01:40] <Minataku> I just couldn't remember what your problem was
[01:40] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: oh yeah!!! I got the closing error, let me find it
[01:40] <Minataku> Ah, cool
[01:40] <abulo> alguien sabe el canal en espaol?
[01:40] <Minataku> !es | abulo
[01:40] <ubotu> abulo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:40] <vaidas> I do have all the repositories enabled, but I can't find wine, only libwine and libwine-dev
[01:41] <Minataku> vaidas: Weird.
[01:41] <revvltn> what partition are meaningful with Kubuntu? /urs /var /home swap /opt
[01:41] <Minataku> revvltn: I use /boot swap and /
[01:41] <Minataku> Not counting partitions on an external drive
[01:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: open Adept (alt+f7 and type adept, then enter)
[01:41] <vaidas> ok then, how do I install the restricted video drivers?
[01:42] <Minataku> !ati
[01:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <trakinas> on search field: flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> Minataku:
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[01:42] <Minataku> Eep
[01:42] <revvltn> Minataku: /boot??? are you kidding me right?
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[01:42] <Minataku> revvltn: I use Gentoo
[01:42] <Minataku> Like hell I'd use *buntu
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[01:42] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> i know i know sorry
[01:42] <revvltn> Minataku: so... still you can't have /boot on LVM
[01:43] <trakinas> Minataku: so, you are kind of saying: broda, come back to gentoo word! emerge moo forever!
[01:43] <Minataku> trakinas: Heh
[01:43] <Minataku> I'm saying I'd be tearing my hair out if I used *buntu
[01:43] <Gerrit> Hmm
[01:43] <Minataku> So much so that I'd be tearing out more than the hair on my head, because I'd rip myself bald
[01:43] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: did you read the problem
[01:43] <trakinas> Minataku: Im almost bold because my drive simple does not work here. :/
[01:44] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: Yeah, something is pretty well screwed
[01:44] <revvltn> trakinas: that's so getting old, nowadays with 2 cores and 4 cores comming, will be the age of Gentoo
[01:44] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: so you cant help?
[01:44] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: No, I can't help with that, I'm sorry
[01:44] <revvltn> Minataku: I am tearing my hair out trying to get / in LVM with Kubuntu
[01:44] <Minataku> That's a pretty bad error situatiob
[01:44] <Minataku> *situation
[01:44] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: can you help at all?
[01:44] <trakinas> revvltn: yay! so, next week, gentoo will became, again, the main system here. I can live with the loooong emerge waitings...
[01:44] <revvltn> it's being a week and I only found a ufly workaround
[01:44] <Minataku> Something on your system seems screwed up
[01:45] <revvltn> copy and paste / aftwerwards
[01:45] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: try re-installing firefox.
[01:45] <Minataku> trakinas: I can use all my other programs while compiling
[01:45] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: done that 3 times
[01:45] <mtv> i am trying to get sound.  7.04 recognizes my sound card, as it did with dapper.  I had sound with dapper, no sound with 7.04.  Where should i begin to look.  I already looked and made sure alsa-mixer was setup correctly
[01:45] <Minataku> Very minimal impact
[01:45] <Minataku> And my system is almost 4 years old now
[01:45] <revvltn> trakinas: aren't you listening? with an intel dual core emerge let's say firefox teakes like 3 minutes
[01:45] <trakinas> Minataku: what i meant is: i want to install an app because i need to use it on that momment... buuuuuuuuuuut emerge isnt that quick. :/
[01:46] <draik> How do I change my KDM theme?
[01:46] <Minataku> trakinas: You can find and pop in a binary for temporary use
[01:46] <trakinas> revvltn: ah! but what about tose with 512mb and semprons?
[01:46] <trakinas> ;] 
[01:46] <Minataku> There ARE binary repositories for Gentoo, I believe
[01:46] <shatteredskye> hey all- My Western Digital WDG1U2500 external USB hard drive isn't recognizing when i plug it in
[01:46] <shatteredskye> any ideas?
[01:46] <revvltn> trakinas: then it's not Gentoo's fault
[01:46] <trakinas> Minataku: but i never found them. =(
[01:46] <revvltn> ok I am about to bounce
[01:46] <evsophomore2009> So im pretty much screwed out of a good web browser?
[01:46] <trakinas> revvltn: i know. i never complained about gentoo
[01:46] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Does it have power too?
[01:46] <trakinas> i love gentoo.
[01:47] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: It looks like you might be. File a bug on it, though.
[01:47] <Minataku> Or rather, check if one exists first
[01:47] <evsophomore2009> how?
[01:47] <revvltn> and get LVM for once and for ALL!!
[01:47] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Please respond only in channel
[01:47] <revvltn> so what's up with Gentoo users in Kubuntu forums?
[01:47] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: Im kind of busy now and cant help. :/
[01:47] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Check dmesg, "dmesg | tail"
[01:47] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: okay
[01:47] <trakinas> i have to go, folks.
[01:47] <trakinas> cheers!
[01:48] <Minataku> revvltn: I like to give the advanced Linux edge to the help in here
[01:48] <Minataku> Though Kubuntu's forced simplicity constantly frustrates me
[01:48] <revvltn> mm... I see
[01:48] <shatteredskye> Minataku: sry, i'm a noob, I don't really know what that means
[01:48] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, try this page there a re several here that may work : http://linux.about.com/od/softbrowser/Linux_Software_Web_Browsers.htm
[01:48] <revvltn> Minataku: so far I haven't experience simplicity here at all
[01:48] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Type it into a Konsole session
[01:49] <shatteredskye> Minataku: oh ok
[01:49] <Minataku> revvltn: It "just works", that's the simplicity
[01:49] <draik> How do I remove the usage of GNOME from my session types? I did   'sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop' and it is still there.
[01:49] <revvltn> I'd rather follow cli instructions that work than GUI install the nobody knows how to help
[01:49] <Minataku> Of course, anything beyond using it for everyday tasks is a pain in the ass
[01:49] <Minataku> revvltn: Exactly, because people like us know what we're doing
[01:49] <shatteredskye> Minataku: want me to paste results?
[01:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Sure
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: I would have to create  an initr image to boot LVM into root
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: will that  be hard?
[01:50] <revvltn> Minataku: how does that work in untu?
[01:50] <Minataku> revvltn: I've never used LVM, sorry
[01:50] <Minataku> !lvm
[01:50] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:50] <revvltn> oh man, the you can't call yourself a Gentoo user
[01:50] <revvltn> sorry
[01:50] <Minataku> Try that second one
[01:50] <shatteredskye> Minataku:
[01:50] <Minataku> revvltn: I don't need LVM
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[01:50] <Minataku> I have no use for it
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:50] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:51] <revvltn> Minataku: being there, don't help
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  SCSI device sdb: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Write Protect is off
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]  sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.108000]   sdb: sdb1
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.116000]  sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb
[01:51] <shatteredskye> [135827.116000]  sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[01:51] <revvltn> wtf?
[01:51] <Minataku> Aaargh, don't paste in here
[01:51] <evsophomore2009> =/ there ALL Mozilla Based!!!
[01:51] <ICM> Whenever I log out, then log back in, I have no cursor.  I mean, when I hover over something, I can see the light shadow or something, so I know my mouse is being moved around and stuff-- but I canont see the actual pointer/cursor/whatever you call it
[01:51] <Minataku> Anyway, the disk _IS_ recognized
[01:51] <ICM> I had this problem in Gentoo aswell, and never got it resolved
[01:51] <Minataku> So there's no problem there
[01:51] <revvltn> ok, ICM what problem?
[01:51] <shatteredskye> Minataku: sry, I asked, and I thought u said it was ok?
[01:52] <Minataku> shatteredskye: You have to use the pastebin
[01:52] <Minataku> !pastebin
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <Gerrit> My video is working, except during the boot phase.
[01:52] <shatteredskye> Minataku: ok thanks, & sry
[01:52] <ICM> revvltn basically I see no cursor
[01:52] <ICM> I don't see the pointer
[01:52] <Minataku> shatteredskye: It's okay
[01:52] <alex> hi
[01:52] <alex> i am new
[01:53] <revvltn> alex: you mean noob
[01:53] <draik> Hello, alex.
[01:53] <alex> and i dont know how to make install
[01:53] <alex> for exampl flash
[01:53] <Minataku> !adept
[01:53] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:53] <Minataku> There ya go, alex
[01:53] <draik> revvltn: Why not just... ehh, nevermind
[01:54] <shatteredskye> Minataku: u said the disk is recognized?
[01:54] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Yeah, the kernel is okay with it
[01:54] <Minataku> It's there and ready
[01:54] <Minataku> Is it using NTFS by chance?
[01:54] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I guess I'm just used to a window popping up when I plugged in USB flash drives, etc.
[01:54] <draik> alex: In the terminal, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:54] <ICM> So is there any help for me ever?
[01:54] <Minataku> shatteredskye: I believe KDE puts an icon on the desktop for it
[01:54] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: okay so im on Konq, and when i click on (Settings --> Config. Konq --> Plugings --> Scan For New Plugins (it scanned and worked) --> now under "Plugins" it shows Netscape
[01:55] <Minataku> ICM: That's a pretty weird issue O.o
[01:55] <evsophomore2009> Minataku: how do i enable it?
[01:55] <draik> alex: That will install the flash player for your Mozilla/Firefox browser
[01:55] <Minataku> I'd file a bug with X.org
[01:55] <ICM> Minataku I know... I can't find ANYTHING on it either
[01:55] <ICM> This is the same computer I had Gentoo on
[01:55] <Minataku> ICM: Definitely file a bug
[01:55] <shatteredskye> Minataku: There is no icon, that's why i was confused. it's FAT32
[01:55] <Minataku> If it happened on both distros, it's a bug in X11
[01:55] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Hrm
[01:55] <Minataku> Bizarre
[01:56] <ICM> I haven't messed around enough with X11 or anything so
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: do you have device icons enabled for the desktop?
[01:56] <ICM> it shouldn't be doing that, so I suppose I should be filing a bug
[01:56] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Thank God you're here
[01:56] <ICM> but then how does one fix it.. u.u
[01:56] <Minataku> ICM: Yeah, that's an X11 issue there, definitely file a bug
[01:56] <yannick_> hello !all how to use skype on kununtu in local my microhone work well but can't make call in skype thanks all
[01:56] <Minataku> Me, I'm going to set myself on fire and run screaming down the street
[01:56] <Minataku> j/k
[01:56] <shatteredskye> Minataku: Yes, because Memory Sticks will show up, as well as CD's
[01:56] <revvltn> ICM: is this on Gentoo or on Ubuntu?
[01:57] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: okay so im on Konq, and when i click on (Settings --> Config. Konq --> Plugings --> Scan For New Plugins (it scanned and worked) --> now under "Plugins" it shows Netscape
[01:57] <Minataku> But all new support tickets go to nosrednaekim
[01:57] <Minataku> XD
[01:57] <ICM> this is on Kubuntu, but I had the same issue in Gentoo
[01:57] <revvltn> ICM are you talking about gpm or X pointer?
[01:57] <Minataku> evsophomore2009: Sorry, I don't use Konq so I don't know
[01:57] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: how do i enable flash?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, yeah that's normal for konq
[01:57] <draik> How do I remove the usage of GNOME from my session types? I did   'sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop' and it is still there.
[01:57] <draik> How do I change my KDM theme?
[01:57] <revvltn> ICM then prolly the problem lies in your computer? Have you tried changing  mouse?
[01:57] <ICM> revvltn, I don't know what either of those are (sorry, I'm still learning, I've only used Linux for servers before)
[01:57] <Minataku> The mouse has nothing to do with the X11 pointer
[01:57] <BluesKaj> did you install flash non free from synaptic
[01:58] <ICM> KDE *and* Gnome now, and its ONLY when I log out and back in
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: little overwhelmed?
[01:58] <Minataku> ICM just go file a bug
[01:58] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: no how do i do that?
[01:58] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: VERY
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:58] <revvltn> ICM otherwise take a look at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:58] <Minataku> Good, BluesKaj is here to help too
[01:58] <Minataku> Everyone ask them stuff now
[01:58] <draik> !kdm
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Minataku> My damn wrist hurts X3
[01:59] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, open synaptic and type flash
[01:59] <evsophomore2009> i dont have Synaptic?
[01:59] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry all, just getting a bit overwhelmed here
[01:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | draik
[01:59] <ubotu> draik: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> ok adept
[01:59] <Minataku> I need to relax a bit
[01:59] <darkrift> q: how do i use apt-get to install teh latest beta of firefox? (is it possible?)
[01:59] <Minataku> Jucato! You too! Hooray!
[01:59] <evsophomore2009> oh okay
[01:59] <Jucato> O.o
[01:59] <Minataku> Now other people can answer questions
[01:59] <Minataku> lol
[01:59] <Jucato> just woke up....
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: shatteredskye: so whats the deal? the memory stick mounts but doesn't tell anyone?
[02:00] <revvltn> ok gotta bounce
[02:00] <Minataku> Jucato: I was fielding, like, 5 at once earlier
[02:00] <Jucato> heh
[02:00] <darkrift> ill give you guys props
[02:00] <ICM> revvltn, dmesg says some stuff about
[02:00] <darkrift> you hand out tons of help in here
[02:00] <Minataku> I dunno, it's possible that KDE isn't picking up the insertion
[02:00] <darkrift> i always feel bad asking because you are already answering 10 q's at once
[02:00] <shatteredskye> Minataku: correct, except it's an external hdd, rather than a memory stick
[02:00] <Minataku> Heh
[02:00] <revvltn> ICM: there you go!! keep digging eventually you'll sort it out
[02:00] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, choose flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and install them
[02:00] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Right, same difference, though
[02:01] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I figured
[02:01] <ICM> er, revvltn, says some stuff about **WARNING* I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 0:05.0]  forgot to specify phyiscal device: fix it!'
[02:01] <yannick_> how to make call oin skype in local microphone is working well but c'ant make call in skype!thanks!
[02:01] <Jucato> BluesKaj: there's no flashplayer-nonfree
[02:01] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Try pulling it out, wait, oh, 20 seconds, plug it back in
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is it listed in your /etc/f...crap whats that name?
[02:01] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: fstab
[02:01] <revvltn> ICM also try other mice and find out if they give the same bahavioir, you know to narrow down the causes
[02:01] <BluesKaj> is there flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah... shatteredskye is you HD listed in your /etc/fstab?
[02:01] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yes
[02:01] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: there is only one option "flashplugin-nonfree
[02:02] <Minataku> The mouse has nothing to do with X not displaying a pointer
[02:02] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: yep. that one
[02:02] <ICM> revvltn the problem isn't in the mouse its with X11 I think, I can make the selective box and stuff on the desktop
[02:02] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: umm, I don't know?  srry.. newbie =/
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ok , then install it
[02:02] <Minataku> ICM: It is with X11
[02:02] <revvltn> bye the way please answe me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476871
[02:02] <evsophomore2009> but i dont see flashplayer-nonfree
[02:02] <ICM> its as if its calling for 'blah.cur' as my cursor
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[02:02] <evsophomore2009> and its already installed
[02:02] <Minataku> Like I said, ICM, go file a bug, I think Xorg has a Bugzilla
[02:02] <ICM> but everything in blah.cur is transparent
[02:02] <revvltn> ICM then make sure you have the proper mouse driver in Xorg
[02:02] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter evsophomore2009 , the plugin is for the browser anyway
[02:03] <Minataku> As for the reason, it'll probably lie in the Xorg.log
[02:03] <revvltn> ICM is this a laptop or Desktop?
[02:03] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: so since its already installed....
[02:03] <BluesKaj> theo the player is for the desktop
[02:03] <ICM> proper mouse driver... this is as generic of a mouse as you can get
[02:03] <ICM> desktop revvltn
[02:03] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: (blush) umm
[02:03] <revvltn> is it USB mouse or PS/2?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yeah?
[02:03] <ICM> its PS/2
[02:03] <revvltn> ICM still you should double check
[02:04] <revvltn> and check gpm
[02:04] <Minataku> ICM: If you're currently missing the cursor, check /var/log/Xorg.log
[02:04] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I'm sorry I don't know how to do that
[02:04] <alex> if i make right klik on the program and open it with adapter it will start the install?
[02:04] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I get pastebin
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[02:04] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: so i did a "reinstall" so should i re-start my computyer?
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: no need
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "cat /etc/fstab" and paste the output in pastebin
[02:04] <BluesKaj> just relogin, evsophomore2009
[02:04] <ICM> um, /var/log/Xorg.log doesn't exist Minataku
[02:05] <Minataku> ICM: One sec
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> its /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:05] <draik> Thank you, Jucato. As always, you are there when I need answers.
[02:05] <Jucato> draik: you're just lucky :)
[02:05] <ICM> ah, found it Minataku... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:05] <Minataku> Yeah, sorry
[02:05] <CliffJumper> *dpkg-buildpkg
[02:05] <draik> Jucato: I will BRB. I'm going to check out the new KDM.
[02:05] <Minataku> Like I said, I'm a bit frazzled right now
[02:05] <evsophomore2009> Okay brb
[02:05] <ICM> it has a bucn hf ostuff that I don't understand :)
[02:06] <ICM> Could not init font path element... a few of those.. but thats font
[02:06] <draik> Jucato: Nope. I still have GDM
[02:06] <Minataku> ICM: Yeah, just look in there for things with (EE) or (WW) or whatever
[02:06] <ICM> theres a few things with (EE)
[02:06] <Minataku> There's an explanation of the (xx) codes
[02:06] <Jucato> draik: er... I thought you were asking about KDM themes...
[02:06] <draik> Jucato: I changed from GDM to KDM; sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:06] <ICM> well, its (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[02:07] <ICM> I have no serial ports
[02:07] <Minataku> Ignore that
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: and i assume you selected KDM?
[02:07] <draik> I did
[02:07] <Jucato> draik: and? it still uses GDM at login?
[02:07] <Minataku> It's lunacy based on the default *buntu configuration
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: you have to restrt the x sever
[02:07] <draik> Jucato: Yes
[02:07] <draik> nosrednaekim: I did
[02:07] <Minataku> ICM: Look for various (EE) and (WW) lines
[02:07] <ICM> theres a bunch of (II), including XINPUT: Adding extended input device "[blablahblah] " (type: Wacom [blahblahblah] 
[02:07] <draik> nosrednaekim: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[02:07] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: nope didnt work
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: how?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: oh ok... that does it.
[02:08] <evsophomore2009> blueskaj; heres what it says on myspace " Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player.:
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: hm...
[02:08] <draik> Jucato: Got me too
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:08] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: did you turn on javascript too?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> draik: try a reboot?
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: hold on a sec..
[02:08] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26057/
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> and please don't use Myspace...that site sucks.. :)
[02:08] <Minataku> Holy crap, I haven't updated X11 in over a year
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[02:08] <Jucato> draik: can you check if kdm or gdm is running?
[02:08] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: how do i turn on Javascript/
[02:08] <ICM> Minataku, (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "256x256"; removing.
[02:08] <yannick_> hello! all !how to record my microphone he work well but can't record it or call with skype thanks !!
[02:08] <ICM> and thats the only WW line in it
[02:08] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: Tools menu -> HTML Settings -> Javascript
[02:08] <draik> Jucato: How do you want me to check
[02:09] <Minataku> ICM: Ignore all those "No valid modes" ones
[02:09] <Minataku> Ah
[02:09] <Jucato> draik: are you in KDE now? Press Ctrl+Esc
[02:09] <Minataku> ICM: Try !!, ?? and NI
[02:09] <draik> Jucato: Also, I did --->  sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: yep its enabled
[02:09] <ICM> Minataku, none with !!, ?? or NI
[02:09] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: its already installed
[02:09] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: btw, what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[02:09] <draik> Jucato: I pressed CTRL+ESC and got the ProcessTable
[02:09] <revvltn> ICM the mouse driver in /etc/X/xorg.config should be uncommented meaning WITHOUT # symbol in front, check which one is yours
[02:10] <Jucato> draik: yep. now look for kdm or gdm
[02:10] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: you need to have Konqueror seach for the plugin
[02:10] <ICM> revvltn the mouse is working fine
[02:10] <ICM> its just not displaying the cursor
[02:10] <draik> Jucato: GDM
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: Kubuntu Fiesty Fauwn 7.03 or somthing
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> the new on
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> *one
[02:10] <Minataku> ICM: Huh... you've got a definite X11 bug
[02:10] <Minataku> Submit it
[02:10] <Jucato> draik: hm...
[02:10] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: ah ok...
[02:10] <ICM> gret, why am I the one that has to find the bug :/
[02:10] <Minataku> Haha
[02:10] <Minataku> ICM: It's not that bad
[02:10] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: How do i have Konq search for the plugin
[02:11] <Minataku> I've had worse bugs
[02:11] <Minataku> Kernel bugs
[02:11] <Jucato> ICM: did you change mouse cursor themes recently?
[02:11] <Minataku> Well, bug
[02:11] <Gerrit> When I installed kubuntu, I was unable to do so with the graphical installation. After installing about 90% of the packages, the installation just stopped and left an unbootable system (no boot loader). The live CD had become unusable too: every attempt to access the ramdisk resulted in many errors: "SquashFS: unable to read...". It sounds like a hardware problem to me, but I don't understand what kind of hardware problem it can be.
[02:11] <ICM> Jucato no, fresh install today
[02:11] <Minataku> ICM: I believe Xorg is at www.x.org
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok, I have no clue.
[02:11] <Jucato> he could also try filing a bug in launchpad
[02:11] <Minataku> Jucato: It's happened on a Gentoo system too
[02:11] <Gerrit> It seems as if the installation procedure was over-writing the ramdisk and over-writing itself, thus making the system unbootable and unusable. The problem did not arise in the text-mode installation (that's how I installed a working copy of Kubuntu)
[02:11] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: oh, it's ok - thank you for trying
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: hey... at least it mounts..lol
[02:11] <Minataku> ICM: Oh, is there no mouse cursor even in the login screen?
[02:11] <Jucato> Minataku: on his system?
[02:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Yeah, on his
[02:12] <Gerrit> I have resolved the problem, so it is not really important anymore, but: does anyone have a clue what might have been going on?
[02:12] <Jucato> hm... ok...
[02:12] <draik> Jucato: Any idea? I thought that by switching from GDM to KDM and uninstalling Ubuntu-desktop it would be resolved
[02:12] <draik> I guess not
[02:12] <Minataku> One system, the bug has manifested in both Gentoo and Kubuntu for him
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: bad CD sounds like
[02:12] <revvltn> omG!!
[02:12] <Jucato> draik: the first one should have worked. uninstalling ubuntu-desktop would have done nothing.
[02:12] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: The media check claimed the CD was okay.
[02:12] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: does that mean I can still access the files?
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> open up konqueror. look for tools and find the plugin section
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a scan button
[02:12] <Gerrit> Is it possible that the media check claims the CD to be okay, even if it is not?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, on konq /settings /configure konq/plugins/ click on scan for new plugins
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know where i don't use Konqeror
[02:13] <Gerrit> I suppose it does something like a checksum?
[02:13] <draik> Jucato: It also didn't remove GNOME from my session selection
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yes, probably, if I remember correctly Minataku said it was mounting
[02:13] <Minataku> Not mounting
[02:13] <Minataku> The kernel was seeing it
[02:13] <Jucato> draik: yes. because GNOME is still installed.
[02:13] <Minataku> And setting up dev entries and such
[02:13] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: i just did that 7 minutes ago
[02:13] <ICM> This happened in Gentoo with Gnome
[02:13] <evsophomore2009> and it found a plugin for Netscape
[02:13] <Minataku> ICM: Oh, is there no mouse cursor even in the login screen?
[02:13] <ICM> and now Kubuntu (with KDE, obviously)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> but not... mounting...
[02:13] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: In fact, when I first got this problem, I checked the CD and it had errors. I then burned another CD (at lower speed) and checked it. It had no errors. To my surprise, the installation problem remained.
[02:13] <ICM> Minataku, lemme check
[02:13] <draik> Jucato: And how do I remove GNOME?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmm... well did it finally work?
[02:14] <ICM> Minataku, correct, there is none at the login screen
[02:14] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: The kernel will report on device attachment
[02:14] <Minataku> ICM: X11 bug
[02:14] <draik> Jucato: Actually, I think I will reinstall Ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Minataku> Period.
[02:14] <Jucato> draik: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[02:14] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Yes, it did, by using the alternative installation (text mode)
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: but woun't auto mount it.
[02:14] <ICM> BAhhh, I shall report it where I found out how
[02:14] <Gerrit> So it's not really important anymore
[02:14] <Minataku> You'll have to file a bug at www.x.org
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ok.
[02:14] <Minataku> And keep up with it
[02:14] <Jucato> draik: ok... sorry I forgot how to change from KDM to GDM or vice-versa
[02:14] <Minataku> They'll probably be asking you for info and such
[02:14] <Gerrit> but I'm curious if it is a hardware problem, a software problem, a media problem, or a combination thereof
[02:14] <ICM> my.. info
[02:14] <draik> Jucato: It's ok. You are trying
[02:15] <ICM> I'm not giving them much more than my name :p
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: still sounds like a media problem to me.
[02:15] <Minataku> ICM: About the system and such
[02:15] <Minataku> Just things they need, no personal data
[02:15] <ICM> heh, okay.
[02:15] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Even though the media check claimed the CD was allright?
[02:15] <Minataku> Debug info and logs and such to help them track the problem
[02:16] <evsophomore2009> forget it, im sick of these stupid codes on Kubutnu, i want windows again
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: maybe. maybe it downloaded wrong.
[02:16] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: It didn't download wrong: I did an md5sum and it was correct.
[02:16] <ICM> Fixing bugs
[02:16] <ICM> Bugs assigned to the pseudo-user xorg-team@lists.x.org need someone to take ownership of them. If you feel qualified to fix the bug, feel free to take ownership of the bug by reassigning it to yourself.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ok... well then I have no idea
[02:16] <ICM> (from the XOrg site)
[02:16] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Neither do I.
[02:16] <Minataku> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
[02:16] <Gerrit> Nor does my father, who is quite knowledgeable also
[02:16] <Minataku> ICM: Section 4
[02:17] <Gerrit> It was just very weird
[02:17] <Minataku> Not Section 5.5
[02:17] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: is there a way to manually mount the ex-hdd?
[02:17] <ICM> okay, now I feel stupid
[02:17] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Yes
[02:17] <Minataku> ICM: Don't
[02:17] <Minataku> I clicked 5.5 first too
[02:17] <Minataku> XD
[02:17] <ICM> hhe :)
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: what's the device called byt the kernel? the /dev/X name
[02:17] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: /dev/sdb1
[02:18] <Minataku> I remember it from earlier
[02:18] <alex> the adapt manager shows me all the time a messege <<The APT Database could not be openedThis may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.>
[02:18] <Gerrit> md5sum correct, media check correct, no prior hardware problems experiences, and then this. And FC7 installation failed as well. Weird.
[02:18] <shatteredskye> good thing Minataku remembers... =S
[02:18] <alex> what should i do?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[02:18] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alex
[02:18] <ubotu> alex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:18] <Minataku> Type what nosrednaekim said
[02:18] <Minataku> Then see all your files in /mnt
[02:18] <yannick_> how to record a microphone is work well but can't record it or make call in skype
[02:19] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I put the command in, but didn't get any output
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> thats fine
[02:19] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:19] <BluesKaj> wel evsophomore2009 , i still think you need to DL and install the latest flashplayer..I think since it's written for kde then it'll run on Konq
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> now do "cd /mnt"
[02:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: browser plugins don't have to be written for a specific browser in order to work. they all follow a single common format
[02:20] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: "bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied"
[02:21] <Minataku> Heh
[02:21] <Gerrit> gn
[02:21] <mordaunt> what's a good newsreader for kde?
[02:21] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: have you tried other Flash sites? like Youtube?
[02:21] <Jucato> mordaunt: knode? (akregator for feeds)
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: errr... do "sudo bash" and then "cd /mnt"
[02:21] <Minataku> Jucato: evsophomore2009 would use other things, but Gecko crashes on him with an X11 error
[02:21] <crdlb> nosrednaekim, sudo -i
[02:21] <Minataku> "BadMatch", specifically
[02:21] <Jucato> Minataku: hmm....
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> whats the i do?
[02:21] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok... sorry, i''m trying to pick stuff up as i go
[02:22] <Minataku> shatteredskye: One sec
[02:22] <Minataku> Let me give you a piece from my /etc/fstab
[02:22] <Minataku> Just paste it into yours
[02:22] <crdlb> nosrednaekim, the same as sudo bash without being quite as evil
[02:22] <Jucato> !pastebin | shatteredskye
[02:22] <ubotu> shatteredskye: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> crdlb: heh ev1l h4xx0r is my name
[02:22] <Minataku>   /dev/sdb1              /mnt      auto            noauto,user        0   0
[02:23] <Minataku> Stick that in your fstab
[02:23] <Minataku> Then type "sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[02:23] <Minataku> Then type "mount /dev/sdb1" WITHOUT SUDO
[02:23] <alex> do you know a easer way?
[02:23] <Jucato> alex: what do you mean?
[02:23] <shatteredskye> Minataku: trying now, thanks, sec
[02:24] <Minataku> After that, type "sudo chown /mnt <your linux username>:users"
[02:24] <alex> i could not aderstend how to solve the problem
[02:24] <Minataku> So if you log in to Linux with the name shatteredskye, it's "sudo chown /mnt shatteredskye:users"
[02:24] <Jucato> alex: just type the commands in Konsole
[02:25] <alex> yes i did that
[02:25] <alex> after that what?
[02:25] <Minataku> This should make the mountpoint yours, and all the files inside yours
[02:25] <Jucato> alex: try running Adept again
[02:25] <Minataku> Hopefully
[02:25] <Minataku> lol
[02:25] <Minataku> If not I've got a fix for that too
[02:25] <ICM> Minataku...
[02:25] <ICM> I think Kubuntu just made a bloody liar out of me
[02:25] <ICM> its working now
[02:26] <Minataku> ICM: Heh
[02:26] <ICM> you know that was going to happen as soon as I ask in #xorg
[02:26] <Minataku> It's still a bug nonetheless, it would seem
[02:26] <Minataku> The fact that it took this long to show up
[02:27] <alex> it didnt start
[02:27] <Jucato> alex: what happened when you ran "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[02:27] <Minataku> shatteredskye: If you ever have more things you need to mount, that can be taken care of as well, but for now what we've got set up is fine
[02:27] <shatteredskye> Minataku: theres a bunch of other stuff like [UUID: numbers]  before each device line similar to the one u gave me
[02:28] <alex> a list apears
[02:28] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Don't worry about it
[02:28] <shatteredskye> can I pastebin my fstab, and you can modify it, Minataku?  I'm just not sure, sorry
[02:28] <Minataku> If you want to make it UUID-based, that could be possible, but the device name will do just fine
[02:28] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Just paste in the line I gave you as is
[02:28] <shatteredskye> at the end?
[02:28] <Minataku> Yeah
[02:29] <shatteredskye> k
[02:29] <Jucato> alex: what does the list say? can you use pastebin the output?
[02:29] <Jucato> !pastebin | alex
[02:29] <ubotu> alex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:29] <Minataku> After that, chown /mnt before mounting it
[02:30] <darkrift> anyone know where windows firefox stores its favorites? i need to import a few (manually)
[02:30] <Minataku> Before should work fine too, though
[02:30] <shatteredskye> Minataku: I opended it in Kate, and can't save the new fstab cuz I asume I'm not logged in as root
[02:30] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Run Kate via kdesu
[02:30] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[02:31] <shatteredskye> thank you
[02:31] <alex> i think that i past it
[02:31] <Minataku> np
[02:31] <Minataku> Oh
[02:31] <Minataku> Sorry, I've become a bit tired
[02:31] <Minataku> XD
[02:32] <bene> whats the command to list all running jobs?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> lol... trying to steal my glory?
[02:32] <alex> can anyone plz help me with that problem?
[02:32] <bene> ha sry just came in
[02:32] <Jucato> bene: "top"
[02:32] <bene> thx
[02:32] <Jucato> alex: where did you paste it?
[02:33] <Jucato> !patience | alex
[02:33] <ubotu> alex: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:33] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Nah, just screwing up like usual XD
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> heh.
[02:33] <lolopop> hi
[02:33] <lolopop> does LVM take an inordinate ammount of time to set it up?
[02:33] <shatteredskye> Minataku: got a bunch of error msgs in konsole when kdesu'ing kate - i assume that's my cd drive that's not plugged in?
[02:34] <alex> sorry but i am tring to aderstend how linux are "thinking"
[02:34] <lolopop> before I tried to set them individually and took a while
[02:34] <Minataku> shatteredskye: As long as it runs, we don't care XD
[02:34] <bene> how do you kill an unresponsive app? i have ClanBomber runner and it just hung.
[02:34] <shatteredskye> Minataku: XD?
[02:34] <lolopop> now I had them ready and made Altenrate CD to activate them and the screen is BLUE
[02:34] <lolopop> BSOD
[02:34] <Jucato> bene: killall <processname>
[02:34] <lolopop> na mean?
[02:34] <Minataku> shatteredskye: As long as Kate launches, who cares about the errors? XD
[02:35] <draik> Jucato: Should I be worried that the ubuntu-desktop install has stopped at "gtkhtml3.8" for about 15 mintues?
[02:35] <draik> Jucato: Not so much stopped as I think "frozen"
[02:35] <Jucato> alex: where did you paste the output of sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[02:35] <shatteredskye> Minataku: XD represents that philosophy? "as long as it runs"?
[02:35] <Jucato> draik: I would be worried.. but I don't know what that is
[02:35] <Minataku> Oh
[02:35] <Minataku> XD is an emoticon
[02:35] <Minataku> Sorry
[02:35] <Minataku> X3
[02:35] <Minataku> That's another emoticon
[02:35] <Jucato> alex, bene: please keep the questions in here. thanks
[02:35] <alex> at a page that ubuto gave me up
[02:36] <shatteredskye> haha it's ok, i'm a dumbass
[02:36] <Minataku> Similar in meaning to XD
[02:36] <Minataku> shatteredskye: We all are sometimes X3
[02:36] <bene> ok
[02:36] <Jucato> alex: ok try pasting in http://rafb.net/paste
[02:36] <bene> i dont know the processname of ClanBomber, so i cant use the kill command
[02:36] <Jucato> bene: press Ctrl+Esc to launch the process table, and look for anything that resembles clan bomber's name
[02:36] <Jucato> select it and click on kill
[02:37] <alex> did you find it
[02:37] <alex> ?
[02:37] <bene> thank you
[02:37] <draik> Jucato: What does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?
[02:37] <bene> yea
[02:37] <Jucato> alex: no. you have to give me back the link to what you pasted.
[02:38] <draik> Jucato: Sure could have fooled me some times
[02:38] <Jucato> hehe
[02:38] <alex> http://rafb.net/p/og5JzV17.html
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> thats just his disclaimer
[02:38] <alex> sorry
[02:38] <Jucato> draik: dpkg --configure -a, in plain words, tries to pick up where dpkg/apt left when it crashed or was abruptly stopped
[02:39] <Jucato> alex: just do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" please?
[02:40] <draik> nosrednaekim: I should probably have the same disclaimer when I'm at work doing Tech Support. I get some OVERLY VAGUE and WAAAAAAAAAAAY OBSCURE references to "I am retarded, but I'm sure you know that since I can't spell correctly and much less formulate a statement with inteligence past a sponge"
[02:40] <alex> do i have to make space betwin dpkg and --?
[02:40] <draik> Jucato: I only ask because I was asked to do so when I stopped the install of ubuntu-desktop.
[02:40] <draik> alex: yes
[02:41] <Jucato> alex: type it exactly as I gave it, just without double quotes
[02:41] <ehc> do I need more than the default drivers on kubuntu to run higher resolutions with a Nvidia GeForce Fx card?
[02:41] <draik> alex: sudo SPACE dpkg SPACE --configure SPACE -a
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> ehc: what do you mean by "higher"
[02:42] <alex> stil nothink
[02:42] <darkrift> anyone know where windows firefox stores its favorites? i need to import a few (manually)
[02:42] <shatteredskye> Minataku: upon trying to mount the ex-hdd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26059/
[02:42] <draik> ehc: I have an nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE... VERY happy with the default from Kubuntu. But it doesn't hurt to get the unofficial stuff, too.
[02:43] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Heh
[02:43] <ehc> nosrednaekim, I am only getting up 1024x768 on a monitor that has up 1280x1024
[02:43] <draik> darkrift: Yeah. One sec
[02:43] <Minataku> You just forgot to hit enter at the end of the line
[02:43] <darkrift> cool
[02:43] <darkrift> ive searched google, but not much luck
[02:43] <Minataku> But it's mounted
[02:43] <shatteredskye> oh ok
[02:43] <Minataku> Try ls /mnet
[02:43] <Minataku> Er
[02:43] <Minataku> /mnt
[02:44] <Jucato> alex: no output?
[02:44] <alex> no
[02:44] <bene> how do you check what graphics card you have?
[02:44] <lolopop> OMG!!! 20 mins no kidding reading my LVM set up!!!
[02:45] <ehc> draik, that is the same card I have, but I am not able to change the resolution above 1024x768 with the default drivers in "Monitor & Display"
[02:45] <shatteredskye> Minataku: it's listing some files i recognized from the hdd
[02:45] <Jucato> alex: try this command: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:45] <lolopop> I am seriously considering lodging a BUG complain about Alternate CD
[02:45] <Jucato> bene: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:45] <draik> ehc: I have 1280x1024
[02:45] <Minataku> shatteredskye: DING DING DING
[02:45] <Minataku> Enjoy
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: it will automatically try to mount on boot though, Minataku will that make it stall?
[02:46] <Minataku> It shouldn't
[02:46] <alex> http://rafb.net/p/QzgPsP44.html
[02:46] <Minataku> If it's not there on boot, it'll just bitch
[02:47] <Minataku> If it IS there on boot, it'll mount
[02:47] <alex> and stil dont work
[02:47] <Minataku> Actually, no
[02:47] <Minataku> It won't even try to mount it on boot
[02:47] <Minataku> Sorry
[02:47] <Minataku> That's what noauto is for
[02:47] <Minataku> It has to be mounted manually
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> ah ok.
[02:47] <Minataku> And by name
[02:47] <Minataku> mount -a won't do it either
[02:47] <Jucato> alex: at least now I know why
[02:47] <beetle_> #ubuntu-fr
[02:47] <ealtorfer> Hey everyone.
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> hmmm well make sure shatteredskye knows what to do
[02:48] <Minataku> He seems to
[02:48] <shatteredskye> =)
[02:48] <shatteredskye> =(
[02:48] <Minataku> "mount /dev/sdb1" isn't hard to remember, either
[02:48] <Minataku> lol
[02:48] <ealtorfer> Darkrift, did you get an answer to your question about Firefox favorites?
[02:48] <Jucato> alex: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" <--- that will run Kate with administrator privileges and open the sources.list file
[02:48] <Jucato> alex: then delete the first line, which you shouldn't have added in the first place.
[02:48] <shatteredskye> Minataku, nosrednaekim: ok so what's the scoop?
[02:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: If you want to mount it
[02:49] <shatteredskye> I need to type that in every time I log in?
[02:49] <Minataku> You have to type "mount /dev/sdb1"
[02:49] <Minataku> shatteredskye: How often do you do that?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is it always attached to your computer>
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> *?
[02:49] <shatteredskye> yeah
[02:49] <Minataku> Not log in, just every reboot
[02:49] <shatteredskye> it has al my music, etc. on it
[02:49] <Minataku> It's mounted until you reboot
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> lets make it auto, chall we?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> *shall
[02:50] <shatteredskye> pleeeaase
[02:50] <shatteredskye> I would appreciate the help
[02:50] <draik> darkrift: Still need the location?
[02:50] <Minataku> I wouldn't make it automatic
[02:50] <shatteredskye> ?
[02:50] <shatteredskye> y nt?
[02:50] <Jucato> alex: that should fix things. ok need to go now
[02:50] <Minataku> The fact that he can use it as not-root is that he mounted it
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: what happens if its not there?
[02:50] <Minataku> Though he does own the directory
[02:50] <Minataku> So I suppose you can try
[02:50] <alex> w8
[02:50] <alex> i cnot aderstend somethinki
[02:50] <Minataku> To make it mount automatically, just remove the "noauto,"
[02:51] <shatteredskye> from, fstab?
[02:51] <Minataku> Yeah
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: yes
[02:51] <shatteredskye> ok
[02:51] <Minataku> While you're there, go to the end of the file and hit enter
[02:51] <alex> i wrote /etc/apt/sources.list and then what?
[02:51] <Minataku> That'll get rid of that warning
[02:52] <shatteredskye> ok, thx
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> Bye all! I really had better go.
[02:52] <Minataku> np
[02:52] <shatteredskye> it's not letting me open fstab now
[02:52] <shatteredskye> gr
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: kdesu?
[02:52] <shatteredskye> yeah
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"?
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> whats the error?
[02:53] <shatteredskye> it's hanging in the konsole after 3 error msgs, which used to pop up 5 times then prompt pswd anyway
[02:53] <Minataku> In that case
[02:53] <shatteredskye> oh wait
[02:53] <Minataku> "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab"
[02:53] <draik> darkrift: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> I've had kdesu do weird things like that
[02:54] <draik> You can do a search for the bookmarks from there, since it depends if you want the default or those specific to a certain date
[02:54] <shatteredskye> weird
[02:54] <lolopop> should I set the time to UTC? or what?
[02:55] <draik> darkrift: I'm sorry, here is the exact location....
[02:55] <lolopop> yes no
[02:55] <lolopop> UTC ?
[02:55] <NickPresta> lolopop, whichever you prefer. You're the one that has to read it and put up with it :)
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: is kate working now?
[02:56] <shatteredskye> Minataku, nosrednaekim: is it weird that auto and noauto were on the same line in that last line of fstab?
[02:56] <lolopop> hello?
[02:56] <shatteredskye> i'm in nano
[02:56] <draik> darkrift: C:\Documents and Settings/***USER***/Application Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/***FF_USER***.default/bookmarkbackups
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> make sure you enalrged your terminal all the way... line overflow and such
[02:57] <shatteredskye> I dunno, Minataku did write the line for me
[02:57] <shatteredskye> =)
[02:57] <shatteredskye> hehe
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> heh
[02:57] <Minataku> shatteredskye: It's fine
[02:58] <lolopop> all of a sudden this is silent
[02:58] <Minataku> The "auto" is a different field
[02:58] <psygrass> hi i am new to kde..i am trying to install new style or theme...when i run ./configure i got errors that i don't totally get it (C++ preprocessor) ..what am i missing here?
[02:58] <Minataku> It's the filesystem type
[02:58] <Minataku> Just leave it as auto, easier that way
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: you need build-essential
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: and what theme are you tring to install? chances are, its already prepackaged
[02:59] <Minataku> You just want to take out the "noauto," part, leave "user"
[02:59] <Minataku> And then save the file
[02:59] <Minataku> nano puts a newline at the end automatically
[02:59] <psygrass> i tried many...domino, kore..
[02:59] <shatteredskye> Minataku: done
[02:59] <lolopop> could anyone help me with Deciding whether to set the time UTC or not?
[02:59] <shatteredskye> Minataku: now what?
[02:59] <Minataku> shatteredskye: That's it
[02:59] <Minataku> Sit back and enjoy
[02:59] <psygrass> sorry noob here......... what is build essential?:)
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: source code complilers and such
[03:00] <psygrass> do i get them from synaptic?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> psygrass: yeah, thtough the meta package "build-essential"
[03:01] <shatteredskye> Minataku: It's Showing "Mydrive(mnt)" icon on the desktop, when I click it it says: Unable to enter file:///mnt. You do not have access rights to this location."
[03:01] <psygrass> k..found them..thanx
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[03:01] <wes> hey good night, somebody knows install the soundboard VIA AC97 on ubuntu gnome?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> I'm having a mountpointy confilict with hda1 and cdrom on /media ..where should I mount the dvdwriter ?
[03:01] <draik> How do I change the font size of my login? The password asterisks are about the size of blood drops
[03:01] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Aaargh
[03:02] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Try "sudo chown shatteredskye:users /mnt"
[03:02] <shatteredskye> k
[03:02] <Minataku> That should make you the owner
[03:03] <darkrift> how do i install windows media player codecs for firefox?
[03:04] <darkrift> and ty by the way draik
[03:04] <shatteredskye> Minataku: maybe I need to restart to get fstab to re-register the device or something? Cuz I entered ur line and got output, but still can't open it
[03:04] <ealtorfer> http://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx
[03:05] <ealtorfer> Darkrift, take a look at that link
[03:05] <draik> !restricted | darkrift
[03:05] <ubotu> darkrift: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <Minataku> shatteredskye: Aaargh, I don't think so, but I'm completely out of help juice for the night >.<
[03:05] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm tapped
[03:05] <draik> darkrift: you're welcome. I had an issue with Totem playing my online streams (mms://URL..."
[03:05] <shatteredskye> Minataku: oh, no prob at all, thanks so much for your help- I really appreciate it =)
[03:06] <Minataku> I remember I had to do some fancy bending to get mine working perfectly for my non-root user
[03:06] <draik> I can get you the link to use mozilla-mplayer for your streaming audio/video
[03:06] <shatteredskye> Minataku: ok.  I'll bug the rest of these guys and see what they can do, thanks again
[03:06] <draik> darkrift: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/73-Watching-Video-streams-mms-and-rtsp-protocol.html
[03:07] <draik> Hope that helps
[03:08] <a-865> how long should hardware detection phase of feisty installation take?
[03:09] <jerkface> no more than an hour
[03:09] <ealtorfer> Wow--an hour?
[03:09] <jerkface> i might have made that up ;)
[03:09] <ealtorfer> Hopefully.
[03:09] <ealtorfer> That would be a long time for hardware detection. ;)
[03:11] <Minataku> shatteredskye: No problem and good luck
[03:11] <Minataku> ^^
[03:11] <shatteredskye> quick bash question: how do i copy myfile.blah from current directory to my home directory?
[03:11] <ealtorfer> cp ______ ______ ?
[03:11] <shatteredskye> Minataku: cheers
[03:11] <shatteredskye> !
[03:11] <ealtorfer> Did that work for you, shatteredsk?
[03:11] <khammlyon> hi
[03:11] <alex> adept always shows a messege http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26060/ what should i do?
[03:11] <khammlyon> holy!!!
[03:12] <khammlyon> I did a command install and it's bare bones!!!
[03:12] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: the ext-hdd thing?
[03:12] <ealtorfer> cp filename /home/username/ ?
[03:12] <khammlyon> what's KDE's package?
[03:12] <ealtorfer> No, shatteredsk, the file copy.
[03:13] <shatteredskye> oh ok, thank you - i thought u were listening in on the long-winded schpiel we had trying to get myexternal HDD to work
[03:13] <draik> khammlyon: That is a bit too vague. What do you mean by "kde's package"?
[03:13] <khammlyon> what's the main KDE desktop package?
[03:13] <ealtorfer> Oh. I was reading about that, too, shatteredsk
[03:13] <khammlyon> draik: I don't even have X
[03:13] <khammlyon> draik: the main Desktop Managere
[03:13] <draik> khammlyon: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <shatteredskye> easltorfer: yeah, frustrating, still haven't got it
[03:13] <khammlyon> oh thanks
[03:13] <shatteredskye> lemme try copy thouh
[03:13] <draik> you're welcome
[03:14] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: let me know if I can do something to help with the external HD. I wasn't paying close attention though so you'd have to explain.
[03:15] <khammlyon> draik: something is wrong, it wants to install from the CD
[03:15] <khammlyon> I wanna install of the website
[03:15] <draik> khammlyon: It's shouldn't ask for the CD.
[03:15] <khammlyon> draik: well it is
[03:15] <draik> what happens when you do 'apt-cache search kubuntu-desktop'?
[03:16] <khammlyon> how do I configure the mirrors Universe and so on?
[03:16] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: ok thanks, although i think i'm pretty burnt out from it and ready to give up for the nite
[03:16] <shatteredskye> I appreciate the offer though! thanks
[03:16] <draik> khammlyon: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <ealtorfer> No problem shatteredsk
[03:16] <khammlyon> draik: it gives me a description
[03:17] <draik> khammlyon: Good. Then it **should** get it from the net
[03:17] <francesco> !it
[03:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:18] <draik> khammlyon: Wait... Did you get Ubuntu from the LiveCD or the Alternative CD?
[03:18] <khammlyon> it says Media change: please insert the disc labeled Kubuntu 7.04 Fiesta Fawn etc...
[03:18] <khammlyon> Alternative CD, and then I did the command line installation
[03:18] <draik> The Alternative CD install may need the CD for installs
[03:19] <draik> I did the Live CD install. You need the CD
[03:19] <khammlyon> w00t
[03:19] <khammlyon> for ALL install?
[03:19] <khammlyon> for ever?
[03:19] <khammlyon> yo this is weird
[03:19] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: I'm denied permission from my /mnt directory
[03:19] <shatteredskye> is that weird?
[03:19] <khammlyon> when will I be able to do off line?
[03:20] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk, did you try chowning the directory?
[03:20] <shatteredskye> don't know how... =/
[03:20] <shatteredskye> sorry, i'm a noob, btw if u haven't discerned haha
[03:20] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk, take a look at http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchown.htm
[03:20] <rathel> It's kind of wierd on linux when you restart, things can go weird.. My login screen is now huge I have to scroll around to see my login information, but my desktop after login appears just fine, what happened and how do I fix it? lol Thanks!
[03:20] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: thanks
[03:20] <ealtorfer> No worries. I'm not really a daily Linux user...I am a sysadmin though.
[03:21] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: oh ok, cool
[03:21] <khammlyon> oh man I shudva update first!! now I will have old an new packages mixed up
[03:22] <draik> khammlyon: All "apt-get install" are online because it goes to the servers with the packages.
[03:22] <khammlyon> draik: it's odd it needs the CD to access online
[03:22] <khammlyon> weird
[03:23] <khammlyon> anyways it's doin it doint it doin it now
[03:23] <theshado1> is there any way I can fix the problem where when I try to launch and application I get "KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP" w/out restarting?
[03:23] <draik> khammlyon: I agree, but I didn't compile the CD
[03:24] <khammlyon> lol ok
[03:24] <khammlyon> draik: at least I am happy now I am getting this going finnally
[03:25] <draik> khammlyon: But if I did, I would have put some logic into it... "Hmm... I should make 'apt-get' available without the CD for when khammlyon decides he is going to need it..." LOL
[03:25] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26061/
[03:25] <shatteredskye> =(
[03:26] <rathel> Hello.
[03:26] <ealtorfer> Oh
[03:26] <ealtorfer> Wait a second.
[03:26] <shatteredskye> ?
[03:26] <draik> Jucato: Did you scare off alex?
[03:27] <draik> nosrednaekim: Or as Morpheus giving alex the choice between the pills... I guess she decided to return to the life with lies
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> and virus's?
[03:28] <ealtorfer> Shatteredsk: try ls -l /mnt/ ?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[03:28] <ealtorfer> Can you paste the result of that shatteredsk? I think it's correct syntax.
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: still not working?
[03:28] <shatteredskye> no =(
[03:29] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: "permission denied"
[03:30] <ealtorfer> ls -l /
[03:30] <khammlyon> OMG why do I want gujarati and mlaylam fonts!!!
[03:31] <a-865> how long should hardware detection phase of feisty installation take?
[03:31] <khammlyon> arphic-ukai fonts? WTF??!!
[03:31] <ehc> shatteredskye, try "sudo ls -l /"
[03:31] <ealtorfer> a-865: not very long...less than a half hour
[03:31] <rathel> It's kind of wierd on linux when you restart, things can go weird.. My login screen is now huge I have to scroll around to see my login information, but my desktop after login appears just fine, what happened and how do I fix it? lol Thanks!
[03:31] <khammlyon> devanagari??
[03:31] <khammlyon> oriya?
[03:31] <shatteredskye> ech: the sudo ls worked
[03:31] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: worked
[03:31] <khammlyon> telugu??? WTF??!! I clearly set everything to ENGLISH
[03:31] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: What were the results? Can you paste the line?
[03:31] <shatteredskye> * ehc: worked
[03:32] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: I think you need to do a chmod on that directory
[03:32] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: At least in Windows, you can own a folder but not have access to it until you mod the ACLs
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> rathel: thats why you aren't supposed to restart ;)
[03:32] <rathel> nosrednaekim: Well, to bad.
[03:32] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: sry, u want the output of what?
[03:33] <ealtorfer> of the ls -l
[03:33] <ealtorfer> it should've included permissions to the directories
[03:33] <rathel> Now how do I fix the problem?
[03:33] <shatteredskye> for /
[03:33] <shatteredskye> ?
[03:33] <ealtorfer> Yes please
[03:33] <shatteredskye> k
[03:33] <draik> rathel: I'm on the same boat with you. The asterisks for my password are about the same size as a blood drop
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> rathel: I was kidding.
[03:34] <rathel> draik: lol We have to find away off this boat I say.
[03:34] <draik> rathel: No GUI?
[03:34] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26062/
[03:35] <rathel> draik: I use the GUI login, it's just freaking huge, I have to scroll my mouse to see where I can type in my login information.
[03:35] <draik> rathel: TTY login, gain access and then "startx"
[03:35] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: sudo chmod o=rwx /mnt should help
[03:35] <ealtorfer> Syntax might be wrong
[03:36] <ealtorfer> but it looks close
[03:36] <draik> I had that issue. It somehow went away. Now, the font size for my password is huge. The username is ok, but the password asterisks are HUGE
[03:36] <shatteredskye> k, sec
[03:36] <a-865> ealtorfer: nothing has happened for over half an hour :(
[03:36] <khammlyon> ok I did it
[03:36] <khammlyon> I am in
[03:36] <khammlyon> in KDE
[03:37] <rathel> draik: TTY?
[03:37] <draik> rathel: I had that issue. It somehow went away. Now, the font size for my password is huge. The username is ok, but the password asterisks are HUGE
[03:37] <khammlyon> what to do from here?
[03:37] <draik> rathel: No. GUI
[03:37] <khammlyon> I guess all the multimedia stuff
[03:37] <khammlyon> by the way I don't have adept
[03:37] <khammlyon> should I sintall it?
[03:37] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: permission still denied to cd to /mnt/
[03:37] <a-865> ealtorfer: tons of hda lost interrupts
[03:38] <rathel> draik: Aw,so your saying I should turn off the GUI login?
[03:38] <khammlyon> my bad I do have it
[03:38] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: you can try sudo chmod a=rwx /mnt if you want
[03:38] <ealtorfer> It's kind of bad practice...
[03:38] <khammlyon> ok, how do I install all the multimedia stuff?
[03:38] <ealtorfer> a-865: I've seen that before, too, but I don't know what to do about it.
[03:39] <ealtorfer> a-865: Does it move past detection? How long has it been?
[03:39] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: what will that do?
[03:39] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: It will allow all users read, write, and execute permissions on /mnt
[03:39] <shatteredskye> oh
[03:40] <ealtorfer> and then paste me another ls -l / please.
[03:40] <shatteredskye> ok
[03:40] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: thanks
[03:40] <shatteredskye> np
[03:40] <a-865> ealtorfer: it finally did an ide0 reset, but now it's doing lost interrupts again
[03:40] <ealtorfer> a-865: Is your hard drive bad?
[03:40] <a-865> ealtorfer: staying blank on the installation screen
[03:41] <ealtorfer> a-865: Try running a diagnostic tool?
[03:41] <a-865> ealtorfer: prolly not - windoz is on hda, breezy working fine on hdc
[03:41] <draik> rathel: No, just an option... with a side of sarcasm
[03:41] <ealtorfer> a-865: Interesting.
[03:42] <rathel> draik: Aw okay, I get confused easily on the IRC..
[03:42] <draik> rathel: Sorry, it comes with the personality
[03:42] <rathel> draik: No prob.
[03:42] <kubu> buenas!
[03:43] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26063/
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: and I assume you still can't cd into it?
[03:43] <shatteredskye> right
[03:43] <shatteredskye> grrr
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> this is bad,,
[03:43] <shatteredskye> =(
[03:43] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: You aren't getting the permissions changed for some reason
[03:44] <ealtorfer> shatteredsk: You need to perform a chmod. You don't have access to the directory.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> now... there's a non command line way to do this..
[03:44] <shatteredskye> k
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu konqueror"
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> navigate to "/?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> "/"
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> and then right click on /mnt
[03:45] <ealtorfer> All: I have to go for right now. Good luck shatteredsk.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> select properties
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> and then permissions
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> ealtorfer: all right, i'll try to handle it
[03:45] <ealtorfer> :)
[03:45] <ealtorfer> Shatteredsk: email me if you need more help---ealtorfer@gmail.com
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did you do all that?
[03:46] <khammlyon> for Konqueror which flash do I need?
[03:46] <khammlyon> nsplugins flash, gnash, or flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:47] <draik> nonfree
[03:47] <shatteredskye> ealtorfer: thanks so much! bye bye
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> khammlyon: non free would be best
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did you do those things?
[03:47] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: yes, and btw- everytime I kdesu, I get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26064/
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: don't worry about them
[03:47] <estebanbianchi> hello
[03:47] <shatteredskye> k
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: so you're in permissions?
[03:48] <shatteredskye> yes
[03:48] <khammlyon> guys do you use Beagle with KDE, knowing is Gnome base? I mean GTK
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> khammlyon: kerry-beagle
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> i've been trying to install ubuntu from the cannonical live cd
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> but i cant
[03:48] <estebanbianchi> mean kubuntu
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok, change "others" to "can view and modify content"
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> it fails in formating part
[03:49] <draik> estebanbianchi: What error message are you getting?
[03:49] <shatteredskye> ok
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> and check the radio button saying apply changes to all subfolders
[03:49] <coreymon77> khammlyon: wh not, just because its kde doesnt mean you cant use gtk programs
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> it starts the procces and it stops in 15%
[03:49] <coreymon77> i use gtk programs quite often
[03:49] <kubu__> alguno sabe si con Eclipse se puede programar en visual???
[03:49] <draik> estebanbianchi: I would suggest formatting the drive first from the live cd as EXT3
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> !es | kubu__
[03:49] <ubotu> kubu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:49] <estebanbianchi> yes...it is what i do
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> but just dont work
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> when i am fomating it stops
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> english is not my language...yo cans ee
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> no, use qt-parted from the live cd to format the disk before starting the installer
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: what is your native language?
[03:50] <estebanbianchi> oh..thats a good idea
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> spanish nosrednaekim
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> !es
[03:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> thanks ubotu
[03:51] <estebanbianchi> thanks nosrednaekim
[03:51] <khammlyon> I am sorry I am not seeing Sun's java package
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> if there is none there, you can just ask here
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did that?
[03:51] <khammlyon> I need it for Konquerer and watch youtube
[03:52] <kubu__> anybody know, if whit ECLPSE, i can program in visual language?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: visual basic is not available on linux
[03:52] <kubu__> ohhh bad news!!!
[03:52] <draik> nosrednaekim: It never ceases to amuse me when people thing ubotu is a person.
[03:52] <estebanbianchi> well it seems that the spanish guys are not online
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[03:52] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:53] <kubu__> hehe no problema, i will find other way to program!!!
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: ok no problemo...just ask here
[03:53] <estebanbianchi> i'll try the q t parted
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: python
[03:53] <draik> nosrednaekim: Darn you... you beat me to his feeding.
[03:53] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: grrr : "Could not change permissions for /mnt/"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> did you do "kdesu konqueror"?
[03:53] <shatteredskye> yes
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> umm wow...
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> weird.
[03:54] <kubu__> python was installed in my kubuntu?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: yep
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> in this moment im running an old ubuntu 5.10
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> and i cant mount an hdd
[03:54] <draik> estebanbianchi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:54] <estebanbianchi> its a fat32 conected as slave
[03:55] <estebanbianchi> thanks, but i will install kubuntu fesity soon
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: trying to think...
[03:55] <kubu__> ohh, ok i will try whit this!!!
[03:55] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: k
[03:56] <kubu__> thanks nosrednaekim!!!
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: its  whole new language
[03:56] <draik> shatteredskye: What are you trying to do? Maybe I can help.
[03:56] <estebanbianchi> well,, i'll reboot and try to use the qt parted
[03:56] <Iradigalesc> anyone knows why in kopete we can't see the /msg HELP commands?
[03:56] <estebanbianchi> see in a while
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: "sudo umount /mnt"
[03:56] <shatteredskye> draik: trying to access my Western Digital 250 GB USB drive
[03:56] <darkrift> how do i kill a frozen app
[03:56] <coreymon77> darkrift: xkill in a terminal
[03:56] <draik> shatteredskye: You're using a GUI, right?
[03:56] <coreymon77> and then click on the frozen app
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> draik: it doesn't do it automatically
[03:57] <draik> darkrift: CTRL+ESC
[03:57] <shatteredskye> draink: KDE.
[03:57] <shatteredskye> *draik: KDE.
[03:57] <rathel> My /media folder seems to be broke, when I browse there with Konqueror it comes up with nothing, keeps stalling, and my flash drive doesn't come up when I plug it in..
[03:57] <draik> shatteredskye: You're not too off on the name.. LOL
[03:57] <darkrift> shit
[03:57] <draik> !language | darkrift
[03:57] <ubotu> darkrift: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:57] <kubu__> wath is the consol command to tun python??
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: python
[03:58] <darkrift> well.... xkill didnt work the way i expected
[03:58] <shatteredskye> draik: oh, sry I don't know all my terminology =S
[03:58] <darkrift> killed my taskbar
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> kubu__: you might want to read some tutorials
[03:58] <draik> shatteredskye: Here is what I did for my internal drives. I used the tools in System Settings
[03:58] <coreymon77> darkrift: you have to click on the frozen app
[03:58] <coreymon77> not the taskbar
[03:58] <darkrift> yeah
[03:58] <darkrift> it wasnt open
[03:58] <coreymon77> so open it
[03:58] <draik> shatteredskye: Then I used the filesystem section to automatically mount
[03:58] <darkrift> so i clicked on its button in the task bar
[03:58] <darkrift> and poof
[03:58] <darkrift> how would i go about restarting it
[03:59] <draik> You may have to do the same thing with your USB, but it does it automatically for me.
[03:59] <coreymon77> darkrift: even if its frozen, something will come up
[03:59] <kubu__> ah ok, no problem, thanks for taht!
[03:59] <coreymon77> type kicker
[03:59] <kubu__> see you!
[03:59] <darkrift> k
[03:59] <darkrift> ty
[03:59] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: I unmounted
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: oh NICE! i never saw that!
[03:59] <draik> nosrednaekim: You need fresh eyes. Seems you've been trying to resolve this for quite some time.
[04:00] <draik> I just got involved because I figured I might be able to help.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: go into system settings, advanced, disk and filesystems
[04:00] <darkrift> seems it killed the firefox window, but not the app
[04:00] <darkrift> firefox wont restart now :(
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> draik: wow... I really never even saw that tool... very nice
[04:00] <shatteredskye> lemme try, draik and nosrednaekim
[04:00] <draik> darkrift: CTRL+ESC and locate the app.
[04:00] <draik> shatteredskye: Let us know what happens.
[04:00] <coreymon77> darkrift: type ksysmanager
[04:00] <shatteredskye> k, sec
[04:01] <coreymon77> no not that
[04:01] <darkrift> ty
[04:01] <darkrift> ctrl esc worked nicely
[04:01] <darkrift> will remember that one
[04:01] <coreymon77> ksysguard
[04:01] <draik> nosrednaekim: shatteredskye: My desktop automatically mounts my USB drives. I don't recall having to change any of those settings, but it might be the answer we need.
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> draik: yeah.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: when you are there,enter administrator mode
[04:02] <shatteredskye> haha
[04:02] <draik> shatteredskye: ??? haha in a good way or bad way?
[04:02] <khammlyon> what's the Sun Java package called?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:03] <shatteredskye> draik: haha to the node crossing
[04:03] <draik> khammlyon: I will give you the steps necessary to choose the correct java for your system
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: there yet?
[04:03] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: in admin mode now
[04:03] <draik> shatteredskye: Oh, ok. I thought it was something in your settings that was funny.
[04:03] <khammlyon> thanks
[04:03] <shatteredskye> not yet
[04:03] <shatteredskye> heh
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> ok.do you  see your external HD listed?
[04:04] <biffhero> how do I upgrade to feisty?  I have read the http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading page, and neither the KDE nor the gnome methods work.  (I never get the "upgrade" button lit up)
[04:04] <shatteredskye> yes I do
[04:05] <biffhero> There are dire warnings against editing /etc/apt/sources.list (cat $file | sed -e 's/edgy/feisty'), but that's my first thought, coming from debian.
[04:05] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: it's listed as disabled though
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> enable it.
[04:05] <draik> shatteredskye: Admin mode > Modify
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> and do that...
[04:06] <shatteredskye> k
[04:06] <draik> shatteredskye: Make sure that you have it enabled and setup as the correct file system
[04:06] <khammlyon> Sun Java is GPL now, why is saying is restricted?
[04:07] <shatteredskye> I don't see FAT32 listed as an option
[04:07] <draik> khammlyon: Ready to configure Java?
[04:07] <shatteredskye> ?
[04:07] <draik> shatteredskye: Sure?
[04:07] <khammlyon> draik: yeah
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: vfat, and you have to scroll up
[04:07] <shatteredskye> vfat, oh right
[04:08] <khammlyon> well I am about to search for sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[04:08] <khammlyon> is that OK?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> set the mount point to /media/data
[04:08] <draik> khammlyon: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:08] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok
[04:08] <khammlyon> draik: that's it?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> and tell it to let anyone mount it.
[04:09] <jhutchins> !java
[04:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:09] <khammlyon> draik: why alternatives? Are the others as good as SUN?
[04:09] <draik> khammlyon: Select the java located under /usr/lib/jvm/java-[version] -sun/jre/bin/java
[04:09] <draik> That is for java
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: and select enable at startup
[04:10] <khammlyon> says nothing to configure
[04:10] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: how do i tell it to let anyone mount it>
[04:10] <draik> nosrednaekim: Thank you for covering that.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> its under "mount permissions"
[04:10] <khammlyon> only  1 program which provides java /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[04:10] <ehc> I am trying to configure the KDE Panel and I make a change and click Ok, but then it doesn't change. Any Ideas?
[04:11] <tbtroja> ehc: try hitting apply and then OK?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ehc: try apply?
[04:11] <draik> khammlyon: Be sure you have sun-java6-bin sun-java6-demo sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-source
[04:11] <tbtroja> Say, is Sun Java FLOSS yet?
[04:11] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: it says media/data doesn't exist, should I create?
[04:11] <khammlyon> draik: damn!! do I need all of that to check out YouTube vids?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[04:11] <draik> shatteredskye: Yes
[04:12] <shatteredskye> do i need a / after data?
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> no
[04:12] <shatteredskye> ok
[04:12] <shatteredskye> here goes nothing...
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> (her goes everything)
[04:13] <lucas__> hi everyone
[04:13] <draik> khammlyon: That's what I have setup
[04:13] <ehc> nosrednaekim, tbtroja I lclicked apply and then ok and still nothing. It won't stop grouping my apps.
[04:13] <yotux> Is it safe to uninstall ubuntu if I installed kubuntu via apt-get
[04:13] <shatteredskye> fudge...
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> grouping them?
[04:14] <draik> shatteredskye: No luck, huh?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: it might not mount right away
[04:14] <biffhero> ejc: sometimes I have had to reastart KDE to get it to like my new chnages.
[04:14] <draik> shatteredskye: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> unplug it and then back in
[04:14] <khammlyon> yotux: that's what I am doint
[04:14] <khammlyon> doig
[04:14] <khammlyon> doing
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> draik: what!?
[04:14] <khammlyon> yotux: so far it's working
[04:14] <draik> khammlyon: 3rd time's the charm!
[04:14] <khammlyon> though I had to start Kubuntu manually with startx
[04:14] <khammlyon> startkde didn't work
[04:14] <coreymon77> yotux: yup
[04:14] <coreymon77> yotux: its fine
[04:15] <yotux> khammlyon -- issue a purge command with apt
[04:15] <draik> nosrednaekim: ??? Restart X so that we can see if it's recognized on startup
[04:15] <shatteredskye> draik: OH CRAP
[04:15] <draik> khammlyon: StartX
[04:15] <draik> shatteredskye: What happened?
[04:15] <shatteredskye> draik: I tried to go back in to modify the ext hdd
[04:15] <darkrift> what would cause movies to play crappily on kubuntu (frequent short pauses and skips)
[04:16] <draik> shatteredskye: Ok...................???
[04:16] <biffhero> dark: not enough ram?
[04:16] <darkrift> ive got the cpu pumped up all teh way to 2000
[04:16] <darkrift> 1g ram
[04:16] <draik> darkrift: codecs missing
[04:16] <darkrift> hrmmmm
[04:16] <darkrift> is there a way to install all of the mainstream codecs at once?
[04:16] <darkrift> codec pack etc?
[04:16] <shatteredskye> draik: but I was on the 1 kb partition #2 on my internal HDD, and saved it with funky settings
[04:16] <darkrift> !codec
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <shatteredskye> i don't know what it used to be
[04:16] <khammlyon> draik: nope startx
[04:16] <biffhero> darkrift: run `free` and see how much RAM is available
[04:16] <darkrift> ive done all the stuff in those tutorials
[04:16] <ehc> nosrednaekim, I am trying to set "group similar tasks" to never
[04:16] <khammlyon> there'snt such a thing as StartX
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: so....
[04:17] <darkrift> Mem:        969784     831108     138676          0       7400     279240
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> ehc: hrm
[04:17] <draik> shatteredskye: You know what you need to do
[04:17] <darkrift> seems really low
[04:17] <darkrift> 128mb out of a gig
[04:17] <biffhero> nah, a lot of it is probably file cache.
[04:17] <shatteredskye> draik: didn't i change the swap partition or something>
[04:17] <draik> darkrift: Here is what I have...
[04:17] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 352/692GB, RAM: 2892/3035MB, 115 proc's, 12.0h up
[04:17] <biffhero> if you let it run for a wihle, you will see almost none free.
[04:18] <biffhero> but if you run 'top', and then sort by memory (m key, I think), you will see who is using a lot of the RAM
[04:18] <draik> shatteredskye: You don't need to create a swap for the USB drive unless you're using it to boot.
[04:18] <darkrift> Sysinfo for 'HP': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDTurion64MobileTechnologyMK-36 at 1600 MHz (3217 bogomips), , RAM: 816/947MB, 138 proc's, 2.16d up
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: oh you tried modifying /proc
[04:18] <khammlyon> draik: mmm... showing off to make feel everyone else ashamed of their lil ...?
[04:18] <darkrift> Sysinfo for 'HP': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDTurion64MobileTechnologyMK-36 at 2000 MHz (4021 bogomips), , RAM: 815/947MB, 134 proc's, 2.16d up
[04:18] <darkrift> there
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: great, well, we had better change it back
[04:18] <darkrift> it keeps setting itself back to auto scale
[04:19] <shatteredskye> draik: no, I mean I changed a random 1 kb partition on my SCSI HD (internal) on accident, and i dont know what it used to be
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: I do
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> it was /proc
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> so open it up to edit again.
[04:19] <khammlyon> oh my, now everyone showing off
[04:19] <shatteredskye> nosrednaekim: ok
[04:19] <draik> shatteredskye: Whoa..... edit the partition as best to your knowledge
[04:20] <draik> khammlyon: Not showing off, just stating that RAM is not the issue and there isn't much of a diff between his system and mine. So I would think its a codec on his player
[04:20] <shatteredskye> draik: I thought I was changing my ext. hdd (I thought I had it selected, but accidentally clicked the proc part.)
[04:20] <khammlyon> WTF??!! libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate??!!!
[04:20] <draik> shatteredskye: One sec. I will try to see what I have on mine.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: change the Type to proc
[04:21] <tbtroja> Hm, best way to convert MP3s to OGGs on KDE?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> mount point is /proc
[04:21] <shatteredskye> k
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> options are "defaults"
[04:21] <ehc> nosrednaekim, now it is working. it just suddenly started to work
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> ehc: good
[04:21] <draik> shatteredskye: Yup. nosrednaekim is right.
[04:21] <khammlyon> I need to install MEdibuntu or what?
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> draik: of course I am ;)
[04:22] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: k thanks guys
[04:22] <draik> shatteredskye: Don't thank us yet. USB Drive isn't working yet.
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> tbtroja: soundkonverter
[04:22] <yotux> does anyone know if thunderbird 2.0 is in backports
[04:23] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: what do I need install to have it recognize the MP3 files?
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> libxine-extracodecs
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> draik: so go back and edit the RIGHT partition this time
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i STRONGLY recommend against converting mp3 to ogg
[04:23] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: why's that?
[04:23] <draik> nosrednaekim: You're telling me?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> lossy copy to lossy copy = even worse quality
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> heh sorry... shatteredskye
[04:24] <yotux> ogg has better coding and you will have already lost it with mp3
[04:24] <shatteredskye> draik, nosrednaekim: it's not letting me hit OK to change the proc back...
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> any lossy format to any other lossy format will make baby jesus cry.
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> are you in admin mode?
[04:25] <draik> shatteredskye: Admin mode?
[04:25] <draik> nosrednaekim: You beat me to it
[04:25] <shatteredskye> yes,
[04:25] <shatteredskye> restarting,
[04:25] <shatteredskye> the program
[04:25] <shatteredskye> and sweating
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> no no.. it does the same for me..
[04:25] <khammlyon> I set up Medibuntu as explained adn still can't find the DVD package
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> can't save that..
[04:25] <khammlyon> that's like the only program I care
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> you don't NEED a whole partition for /proc
[04:26] <draik> shatteredskye: relax... breathe....
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> I don't think it will harm your system
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> draik: shatteredskye: I have to go you can email me at nosrednaekim@gmail.com
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> if you have problems
[04:26] <draik> shatteredskye: I don't have a /proc partition. You should be fine.
[04:26] <draik> nosrednaekim: Will do. Thanks.
[04:27] <shatteredskye> ok, thanks nosrednaekim, I will if neeed
[04:27] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: is libkine-extracodecs proprietary?
[04:27] <shatteredskye> draik: what's the proc part do anyway?
[04:27] <tbtroja> Daisuke_Ido: libxine*
[04:27] <khammlyon> I need help getting libdvdcss2 please
[04:27] <khammlyon> and the rest of codecs
[04:27] <ehc> nosrednaekim, it actully didn't work. it was only I didn't have the panel full. it is not working again now.
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> !medibuntu | khammlyon
[04:28] <ubotu> khammlyon: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:28] <khammlyon> how do I use Medibuntu?
[04:28] <draik> shatteredskye: /proc is a special dynamic directory that maintains info about your system, including running PROCesses
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> khammlyon, see the link, instructions on the site
[04:29] <shatteredskye> draik: ah, I see
[04:29] <draik> shatteredskye: If you want, use it as swap
[04:29] <khammlyon> OMG so how on earth can I enjoy multimedia?
[04:29] <khammlyon> I did do that
[04:29] <khammlyon> ok amma look again
[04:29] <shatteredskye> draik: it changed back! wooT
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | khammlyon
[04:29] <ubotu> khammlyon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:30] <draik> shatteredskye: YAY
[04:30] <shatteredskye> draik: ok, so now to the ext HDD
[04:30] <draik> shatteredskye: Onto the ext HDD...
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 | khammlyon
[04:30] <ubotu> khammlyon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:31] <khammlyon> what's the package that leads me directly into graphics without dropping to CLI?
[04:32] <khammlyon> when I logg off I am led into CLI
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> khammlyon, gdm, kdm, or xdm
[04:32] <tbtroja> khammlyon: I think you are referring to the KDM program?
[04:33] <khammlyon> I think it's already installed, I rebooted and didn't have to do that
[04:33] <intelikey> "$Q" ;done
[04:35] <intelikey> wonder how long i'll stay on line before that kills something.......
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, granted, my bash isn't that up to speed, but it looks like you just purged everyhting starting with Q
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, or with a Q in it
[04:37] <intelikey> hitmanWilly no not everything starting with Q  but every non-essential
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, just had to man cut again, got it now :P
[04:38] <intelikey> the "for" loop reads in the package list from the command    `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3`  (you can run that to see the list)   and executes a purge on each one listed
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i would but im on my gentoo box atm (no dpkg)
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> ok gents , what do I do to prevent hda1 from being superceded by the dvdwriter ...this onlyhappens if there's adisk in the dvdwriter of course cuz somehow bothe the had1 partition and the dvdwriter ended up on the same mountpoint , namely  /media ...any suggestions ?
[04:39] <intelikey> unless a dependancy pulls in pppd pretty soon it will take a little while.....   but i will vanish eventualy
[04:40] <rodrigo> kubuntu espa;ol
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !es | rodrigo
[04:40] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, explicitly set a mountpoint for hda1 in fstab, other than the default dvd mountpoint
[04:41] <illmortal_> Can anyone tell me what's the best way to keep my Linux box cooler than average?
[04:41] <intelikey> BluesKaj use something besides /media  for your hda1
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, put it in the frezzer?
[04:41] <intelikey> BluesKaj /media/* is the default for all automatically mounted crap in ubuntu
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> *freezer
[04:41] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly, I mean realistically.
[04:42] <intelikey> illmortal_ power off   ?
[04:42] <intelikey> illmortal_ add a case fan ?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> intelikey, hitmanWilly ...I've been trying to set mountpoints but they either create an access problem or conficts...for some reason prolly fstab is telling both to mount on /media ...not real good at reading the fstab file.
[04:43] <illmortal_> intelikey heh... I mean during use of course, as of now... it's an opened case machine
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, don't put it on the floor, make sure there's a good air flow path through the case (no ribbon cables in front of fans), keep it dusted out
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, do you mean you have the case off?
[04:44] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah seperate them into subdirs   /media/hda1 /media/dvd   ....
[04:44] <illmortal_> hitmanwily, yeah... it's basically bare metal frame lol i stripped off the casing
[04:44] <BluesKaj> ok intelikey , I'll try that ..thx
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, actually that can hurt cooling...those cases are designed to route airflow a certain way over the hottest components
[04:45] <intelikey> illmortal_ some boxes are actually designed so that the air flow through the case helps cool them.  thus having the cover is counter productive
[04:46] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly... that's another thing i have two case fans... i don't know where exactly to put the second one, it's actually on the bottom of the frame... angled to point upwards
[04:46] <intelikey> illmortal_ unless you set a "fan" to move high volumes of air over them
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, do you have one in the back?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, as an exhaust fan?
[04:47] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly, not so much where to put it... but there's a spot in the front of the case, but i dunno if that should be an intake or exhaust.
[04:47] <illmortal_> hitmanwilly yeah the one in the rear is an exhaust.
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, front is intake, rear is exhaust
[04:47] <darkrift> intake
[04:47] <darkrift> back is always outtake
[04:47] <illmortal_> and it's ok if the front one is on the bottom of the case?
[04:48] <darkrift> the power supply blows hot air out
[04:48] <darkrift> and brings semi cool air from inside the case
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not in all cases   some use multi-exhoust and vents for intake
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> illmortal_, yeah, that's fine, remember hot air rises
[04:48] <darkrift> so if your adding a fan, make it bring cool air from teh front of the case
[04:48] <illmortal_> very tru.
[04:48] <darkrift> and.....
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, but generally speaking, rear is exhaust
[04:48] <illmortal_> alright ill put the case back together... I had a feeling that taking off the case wasn't helping
[04:48] <darkrift> it would be better to have the front one lower then the back one
[04:49] <darkrift> so that the airflow crosses the processor heat sink on its way to the power supply
[04:49] <intelikey> hitmanWilly consenting.
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, and yes im aware of multiple exhaust cases, mine has a massive exhaust fan on top :P
[04:50] <intelikey> not common tho.
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> most common pc cases use the front to back air flow path
[04:51] <darkrift> its not that bad if done properly
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> all it takes is one leak....
[04:52] <darkrift> put it together and let it run for a week with paper towells under it with uv dye in the water
[04:52] <darkrift> any leaks can be seen on teh towells
[04:52] <darkrift> if it runs for a week, it should be fine
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> unless you're using de-ionized water or some other non-corrosive/conductive coolant
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> *non-conductive
[04:53] <illmortal_> brb guys, gonna shut down and put case back together.
[04:53] <darkrift> heh
[04:53] <darkrift> !codecs
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <intelikey> darkrift i have a colling chip that would drop my cpu to any temp from ambiant to -45F at +12V DC i never have worked up the nerve to apply it though.     cause if it failed the cpu would go nuclar in about 3 seconds
[04:54] <khammlyon> guys which one is better TASTY MENU or KICKOFF
[04:54] <darkrift> ahhhh
[04:54] <darkrift> forget what those are called
[04:54] <darkrift> its a heat pump
[04:54] <darkrift> ice cold on one side, hot as hell on the other
[04:54] <darkrift> used to sell those at frys electronics
[04:54] <intelikey> this is one of the climit control chips from a sub
[04:55] <darkrift> what you do is apply it to the SIDE of the cpu heat sink
[04:55] <darkrift> so that it wrks with it, not instead of it
[04:55] <intelikey> and yes di-electric heat transfer
[04:55] <darkrift> wont work as good, but still good enough
[04:55] <darkrift> just make sure you get rid of the output heat fast or it will cause the rest of your components to fry
[04:56] <intelikey> darkrift naw,  between the heatsync and the cpu  :)
[04:56] <darkrift> nah, if it fails, the heat sink cant draw heat off fast enough
[04:56] <darkrift> the side of the heat sink is safest, ive tried it many times
[04:57] <darkrift> back i the 800 duron overclocked to 2200mhz days
[04:57] <intelikey> darkrift that's what i said about 3 seconds grace on failure....
[04:58] <darkrift> another q for you guys
[04:58] <darkrift> when i installed, my networkmgr used to show wifi with a signal meter
[04:58] <Rictoo> what is the font folder on kubuntu?
[04:58] <darkrift> i messed something up and now it constantly shows a cat5 plug (even on wifi)
[04:59] <intelikey> Rictoo which one ?
[04:59] <Rictoo> ...
[04:59] <Rictoo> erm
[04:59] <intelikey> !fonts
[04:59] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:59] <Rictoo> the one with the "Monospace" font
[04:59] <Rictoo> intelikey: I need to find the 'Monospace' font
[05:00] <intelikey> Rictoo find / -iname *monospace* 2>/dev/null
[05:00] <Rictoo> what is 2>/dev/null
[05:00] <Rictoo> ?
[05:01] <intelikey> trash error messages
[05:01] <Rictoo> I see
[05:01] <Rictoo> thanks :D
[05:01] <intelikey> you can shorten that by adding /usr/  in place of /   / is the whole box
[05:02] <intelikey> i'm pretty sure you'll find them in /usr/share/  but not positive
[05:03] <darkrift> anyone got any idea what i could do to fix the previously mentioned problem?
[05:04] <intelikey> darkrift i don't recon i've ever seen "knetwork-manager" so i'm useless there.
[05:04] <darkrift> i c
[05:05] <intelikey> it looks like to do this right i'll have to remove the kernel...    "bother says poo"
[05:05] <darkrift> im pissed that the only way i can print is buy paying for turboprint
[05:06] <darkrift> pisses me off to come to linux to avoid that crap and get stuck buying drivers :S
[05:07] <intelikey>             a ^
[05:07] <darkrift> lol
[05:09] <ToddEDM2> anyone here have a pocketPC that syncs with linux?
[05:09] <intelikey> :)
[05:10] <darkrift> ToddEDM2: , good luck
[05:10] <darkrift> i run a pocket pc software channel elsewhere, and have never heard of linux syncing that works
[05:10] <ToddEDM2> damn
[05:11] <ubuntu__> sidnei
[05:11] <intelikey> anyone know off hand howto change priority on a package ?
[05:11] <ubuntu__> ola
[05:12] <intelikey> !es | ubuntu__
[05:12] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <BluesKaj> intelikey, no luck , sys/settings won't allow /media/hda1 or media/dvd ... the dialog asks if i want to create the mount point, but then does nothing after clicking on the create option ..everything works , itjust annoying to have to remove the dvd to access hda1
[05:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj so make them by hand
[05:15] <ToddEDM2> !3d
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <intelikey> sudo mkdir -p /media/whatever
[05:15] <ToddEDM2> !3ddesktop
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <ubunturos> !beryl
[05:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:17] <ToddEDM2> thx
[05:17] <intelikey> ooooh yuch !   apt just removed dash and left /bin/sh pointing at nothing....  that's a bug.
[05:20] <Jucato> intelikey: maybe bash is still installed?
[05:21] <ubunturos> /oeave
[05:21] <brian__> i cant seem to remove the klam av system tray icon, any takers?
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah it is.   and root uses a custom shell so i'm in no trubble but still that broke apt/dpkg until i fixed the symlink
[05:21] <intelikey> @ Jucato
[05:21] <Jucato> :/
[05:22] <intelikey> brian__ why are you using klamav ?
[05:22] <intelikey> if i don't mind you asking this
[05:23] <brian__> curiosity
[05:23] <mtv> i cannot hear sound with my intel ch5 sound card.  Where should i begin to fix this problem.  I checked out also alsa-mixer, everything is unmuted
[05:23] <brian__> mostly
[05:23] <intelikey> hehhe same reason i did one time...
[05:23] <brian__> kid in a candy store, well more or less killing time
[05:23] <intelikey> mtv the wiki
[05:24] <intelikey> !sound | mtv
[05:24] <ubotu> mtv: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:25] <brian__> it multiplied?! lol
[05:25] <intelikey> brian__ makes all kinds of sense,  but i can't help with that.   :)
[05:25] <brian__> sallright I tried
[05:25] <intelikey> brian__ i would try right clicking it tho
[05:26] <jrenato> i
[05:26] <brian__> will just remove :D
[05:26] <jrenato> good nigth
[05:26] <intelikey> jrenato ttfn
[05:28] <draik> intelikey: Watch Dexter to even it out.
[05:28] <intelikey> no thanks.
[05:28] <draik> intelikey: No, not Dexter's Laboratory, Showtime's Dexter.
[05:28] <intelikey> never heard of.  and prolly don't want to .
[05:29] <intelikey> ah!  there went my mouse
[05:29] <intelikey> must be down to the g's  cause it just ate 'gpm'
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, why exactly are you doing this?
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, trying to rebuild more or less from scratch?
[05:30] <intelikey> cause i couldn't remember any one package to get rid of all kde*
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, fair enough
[05:31] <brian__> yay, removed it effortlessly..love linux
[05:32] <Jucato> intelikey: kdelibs4c2a?
[05:34] <khammlyon> I am getting this message when I am trying to play a DVD
[05:34] <khammlyon> No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0
[05:53] <darkrift> ok... i installed turboprint, but it requires a key (which im not gonna buy) so im trying to uninstall it.... anyone got an idea how i go about that part?
[05:53] <lasking> guys i install kvideoencoder in gnome .show me this Please install the KDE development packages! which packages need i to install it?
[05:55] <Jucato> lasking: kdelibs4-dev
[05:56] <lasking> Jucato: thank you
[05:57] <darkrift> anyone? :(
[05:59] <lasking> Jucato: show it again  Please install the KDE development packages................
[06:00] <lasking> i can't configure it
[06:02] <wolferine> I am having permission issues with using NFS, can someone help me to troubleshoot?
[06:09] <wolferine> I cannot copy to another system on my LAN, permission issue
[06:10] <wolferine> and when I try and mount this system, from that one, I also have a permission issue
[06:10] <gnomefreak> lasking: you cant configure it because you didnt read the instructions that i keep tellin gyou to read
[06:12] <rathel> How do I get the cardreader in my printer to work?
[06:14] <contraY> hi
[06:14] <rathel> Hi!
[06:14] <contraY> what are the required Multimedia packages for xine and Kaffeine to work proeprly?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !multimedia
[06:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:14] <spawn57> anyone have any repositary for w32codecs?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !mediaubuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <spawn57> ah, i'll google it, thanks
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !mediabuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <spawn57> mediabuntu =D
[06:15] <Dr_willis> spawn57,  that just gave the url to the repository :)
[06:15] <rathel> What about my question? lol
[06:16] <wolferine> NFS issues, anyone willing to help?
[06:16] <spawn57> haha I see
[06:16] <spawn57> nfs3 or 4?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i dident see you ask anything. Other then say 'hi' :)
[06:16] <contraY> the problem is that I installed 7.04 command line without the FULL blown GUI so I am installing stuff one by one
[06:16] <wolferine> ports open, /etc/exports is setup properly, still not able to copy files from A to B
[06:16] <rathel> How do I get the cardreader in my printer to work?
[06:16] <wolferine> spawn57, its latest, 4
[06:16] <spawn57> wolferine: i dunno much about 4, i never got it working
[06:16] <Dr_willis> contraY,  installing 'kubuntu-desktop' should get most of that stuff.
[06:17] <contraY> Dr_willis: didn't at all
[06:17] <rathel> I asked awhile up.. lol That's why you didn't see it.
[06:17] <wolferine> ok
[06:17] <Dr_willis> rathel,  the few printer/cardreaders ive seen - require special driver for the windows box to even see them. :( so thats not a good sign for linux.
[06:17] <spawn57> i switched to cifs
[06:17] <wolferine> spawn57, did you run into any issues, and how did you resolve them?
[06:17] <rathel> Dr_willis: aw. :(
[06:18] <spawn57> nfs 3 was fiairly easy to set up, espeically with a how to
[06:18] <spawn57> i couldn't find anything useful for nfs4 so I gave up on it
[06:18] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i got a card reader built into my laptop that linux cant use either.
[06:18] <wolferine> this has an excellent howto
[06:18] <spawn57> where at?
[06:18] <wolferine> but its not working
[06:18] <rathel> Dr_willis: So I can't get my card reader in my HP Photosmart to work?
[06:18] <wolferine> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s01.html
[06:18] <spawn57> rathel: hp printer? hp provides drivers for it
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rathel,  id say google for it.. Ive not tried that brand/reader.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> My Canon Printer with reader aint supported by linux at all. :(
[06:19] <rathel> Okay, I got the printer portion working, but no reader yet. :(
[06:19] <contraY> for mplayer what kinda VO should I set? I have a Geforce 5200. Oddly the VO was set to Matrox
[06:19] <spawn57> wolferine: this is for nfs 3
[06:20] <Dr_willis> contraY,  i saw that same thing the other day. I think theres a "x11' or xvid - one to use. I ended yp trying them all. :)
[06:20] <wolferine> ah
[06:20] <spawn57> wolferine: it's exactly what I used
[06:20] <wolferine> and?
[06:20] <spawn57> what error do you get?
[06:20] <contraY> Dr_willis: ok
[06:20] <wolferine> permission errors
[06:20] <wolferine> and I cannot mount A from B
[06:20] <Dr_willis> xv X11/xv is what i am using contraY
[06:20] <spawn57> oh
[06:21] <spawn57> the main thing you gotta do is make sure your uids and gids are both in sync
[06:21] <contraY> Dr_willis: I am trying Xvix working like a charm
[06:21] <contraY> wow real slow!!!
[06:21] <contraY> out
[06:22] <wolferine> spawn57, how do I do that?
[06:23] <rathel> LinuxPrinting.org shows my printer as fully compatible..
[06:23] <spawn57> check your /etc/passwd on both computers by hand
[06:25] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i dont think they consider the media-reader cards..
[06:25] <contraY> Dr_willis: with XV I get this error with mplayer TOO many packets in buffer
[06:27] <Dr_willis> no idea
[06:27] <wolferine> spawn57, yeah, they are both the same
[06:27] <wolferine> :/
[06:27] <rathel> Dr_willis: I think if I use the HPLIP driver it'll work.. I don't kow website is a bit confusing for me.. lol
[06:28] <spawn57> did you try using rpcinfo -p <computerB> on computer A and get a response?
[06:29] <wolferine> do the NFS ports have to be the same on both?
[06:29] <wolferine> thats the only thing I can see thats different between the two
[06:30] <Biovore> wolferine: you doing rootsquash ?
[06:30] <wolferine> nope
[06:30] <wolferine> just getting my systems to share via NFS
[06:30] <Biovore> you get permissions doing stuff to the filesystem as root?
[06:30] <spawn57> what's you mount command?
[06:30] <Biovore> I use NFS here.. no problems..
[06:31] <wolferine> oh well thats great :)
[06:31] <Biovore> the server a linux box?
[06:31] <darkstar> Hello all.
[06:32] <darkstar> I'm unsure as to how to install 3d grapics support in Ubuntu. Can anyone direct me to a good how to site?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:32] <wolferine> B:/home/user /home/user/user nfs rw 0 0
[06:32] <darkstar> Thank you, very much!
[06:32] <wolferine> thats on B, sorry, that should say A:/home/user
[06:33] <Biovore> wolferine: on  the server you install nfs-common and nfs-server and setup a exports file?
[06:33] <wolferine> correct
[06:33] <wolferine> wait
[06:34] <wolferine> there are lots of NFS packages
[06:34] <wolferine> let me compare them
[06:34] <Biovore> you entries on your export look something like this..  /path/to/share ipaddress(rw,async)
[06:34] <wolferine> exports is perfect
[06:34] <wolferine> thats the easy part
[06:34] <Biovore> is rpc.mountd running?
[06:34] <Biovore> and rpc.statd
[06:34] <wolferine> yeah, same NFS are installed on both
[06:35] <wolferine>  5880 ?        00:00:00 rpc.mountd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6012 ?        00:00:00 rpc.statd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6038 ?        00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
[06:35] <wolferine>  5880 ?        00:00:00 rpc.mountd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6012 ?        00:00:00 rpc.statd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6038 ?        00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
[06:35] <wolferine> ops
[06:35] <wolferine> sorry
[06:35] <Biovore> nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server, portmap packages installed?
[06:35] <spawn57> what's the mount command you used?
[06:36] <wolferine> i gave it already spawn
[06:37] <Biovore> I use <server_ip>:/server/path  /local/mount/point nfs noauto,user 0 0   here
[06:37] <wolferine> no rw?
[06:37] <Biovore> rw is specified in exports
[06:37] <Biovore> on the server
[06:39] <wolferine> well, I used it before
[06:39] <Biovore> example exports line on my server:  /home/user    192.168.50.100(rw,async)
[06:39] <Biovore> where is 192.168.50.100 is the ip of the client
[06:40] <wolferine> Biovore, I am a bit beyond that
[06:40] <wolferine> as I said, the exports is perfect
[06:40] <Biovore> what the permissions error then?
[06:42] <Biovore> dose it mount and an you see files?
[06:43] <Biovore> ls -n is usefull in these cases as well..  NFS works by numric UID (don't look at the names)
[06:43] <wolferine> error while copying, ' You do not have perm to write to this folder'
[06:44] <Biovore> The client UID -> Name must match whats on the server..
[06:44] <Biovore> when its mounted..
[06:44] <wolferine> and if I mount A from B, I get:
[06:44] <Biovore> well 1 is a server..  I am guessing A
[06:44] <wolferine> sec
[06:44] <Biovore> then B is a client..
[06:44] <wolferine> might have just worked
[06:45] <wolferine> well jesus
[06:45] <Biovore> some stupid :-P
[06:45] <Biovore> (something)
[06:45] <wolferine> i dont even want to discuss what changes I needed to do
[06:45] <wolferine> :)
[06:45] <wolferine> spaces
[06:45] <wolferine> thats it
[06:45] <Biovore> yay.. I guess it works..
[06:45] <wolferine> hmm
[06:45] <Biovore> yeah spaces are a pain in the butt
[06:45] <wolferine> copy from A to B
[06:45] <wolferine> doesnt work yet
[06:46] <Stratys> crowbar how goes it
[06:46] <Biovore> if A is a server.. the user on A just copys a file into the share directory on the local filesystem
[06:46] <Biovore> the user on B has to go into a mounted filesystem to get files from the server..
[06:47] <Carnage\> Does someone know where I can change the keyboard binding for ksnapshot which is currently PrintScreen?
[06:48] <Biovore> Carnage\: yes you can change it..  but I have forgoten where..   Its in the kde control panel somewhere..
[06:48] <Biovore> use kcontrol
[06:51] <Carnage\> Biovore: Okay, I'll take a look, thanks
[06:51] <Carnage\> Biovore: There are several shortcuts defined there, but I can't find the one for ksnapshot in that place...
[06:52] <illmortal> Anyone know if 55C/131F is an ok temperature for a PC? Should it be cooler?
[06:52] <Biovore> Carnage\: I thought it was in there.. but I don't see it in there.. :-/
[06:53] <Carnage\> :/
[06:53] <Carnage\> That binding really annoys me :>
[06:53] <Biovore> illmortal: thats an ok tempature if its running hard..
[06:53] <heret|c> illmortal: thats fine
[06:53] <heret|c> illmortal: my old pc ran 129 most of the time
[06:54] <illmortal> Biovore... it was runnin for ten minutes in BIOS.
[06:54] <heret|c> F
[06:54] <heret|c> illmortal: you may need to check your heatsink. it may be clogged with dust
[06:54] <Biovore> its not bad..
[06:54] <Biovore> but not great
[06:55] <Biovore> 68c is the temp the themal throttle back kicks in..
[06:55] <heret|c> ~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[06:55] <heret|c> temperature:             40 C
[06:55] <Carnage\> Biovore: if you come across the setting again, pls let me know
[06:56] <illmortal> heret|c what command do I type right now in order to see my Processor's temperature? By the way, it's a P4
[06:57] <heret|c> illmortal: the same one i just did
[06:57] <heret|c> do it in a terminal
[06:57] <illmortal>  40 C
[06:57] <illmortal> i don't think that's correct...
[06:58] <illmortal> why would my processor be exactly the same temperature as yours, but in BIOS before I logged on... I waited 10 minutes and it reached 55C
[06:58] <heret|c> illmortal: dunno
[06:59] <illmortal> is that command accurate heret|c?
[06:59] <illmortal> i mean the information it processes.
[06:59] <Biovore> Carnage\: Can always try posting something to the forums I guess..
[06:59] <heret|c> maybe 40c is the default on non acpi enabled systems
[06:59] <Biovore> Carnage\: Looks like its something new to feisty 7.04 that they embedded it into kde..
[06:59] <Carnage\> Biovore: That's supposed to be my next step yes :)
[07:00] <mtv> does alsa-utils need to be running to have sound?
[07:00] <heret|c> lol.. silly kubuntu
[07:01] <Biovore> mtv: not running here..
[07:01] <heret|c> cd /sys/bus/acpi/devices/bus/acpi/devices loop loop loop. looping symlinks that lead nowhere
[07:01] <mtv> ok well, i guess that is not the reason my sound is not working
[07:01] <Biovore> I think it just sets up your previous sound settings when you reboot and saves the current mixer on shutdown.
[07:01] <contraY> ok besides Beryl what's the other EYE-CANDY for Kubuntu? I am not finding kicker-kickoff in apt-get
[07:02] <Biovore> mtv: what sound card?
[07:02] <contraY> what else is kewl out there?
[07:02] <mtv> intel ICH5
[07:02] <Biovore> oh.. I had on of those.. its a pain in the ass
[07:02] <mtv> it works with the livecd
[07:02] <mtv> which pisses me off
[07:02] <illmortal> heret|c thank you for your help!
[07:02] <crimsun> mtv: alsa-utils doesn't "run".  What's the issue?  Inaudible audio?
[07:02] <Biovore> mtv: yeah its some non-sesical mixer setting on playback
[07:03] <Biovore> something about surround and the number of channels
[07:03] <Biovore> I ditched it and got a audigy 4
[07:03] <contraY> si Gimp the one for Kubuntu?
[07:03] <Biovore> best $70 bucks I spent
[07:03] <contraY> or is there specifically for Kubuntu?
[07:03] <mtv> Biovore: i have played with alsamixer a lot today trying to get it to work
[07:03] <crimsun> mtv: pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer'', then tell me the url.
[07:03] <Biovore> I use gimp on kubuntu
[07:04] <mtv> this is my fathers sony vaio
[07:04] <Biovore> but there is krita
[07:04] <mtv> which pastebin do we use here?
[07:04] <Biovore> mtv: laptop?
[07:04] <mtv> nah desktop
[07:04] <contraY> is SuperKaramba supported still?
[07:04] <Biovore> mtv: see topic
[07:04] <contraY> or is there a new type of EyeCandy?
[07:04] <mtv> i see it
[07:04] <Biovore> contraY: I think it is..
[07:04] <contraY> thanks
[07:05] <Biovore> I think it even integrates into kde-look.org for theme retrival for karambas
[07:07] <mtv> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26076/
[07:07] <redl> technical help can not wright or deleate from usb key ?
[07:08] <Biovore> is it mounted read-only for your user?
[07:08] <redl> How can I tell
[07:09] <Biovore> redl: in a shell type mount
[07:09] <Biovore> and look who ones the mount point
[07:09] <Biovore> (owns)
[07:09] <crimsun> mtv: your 'PCM' is muted and zeroed.
[07:09] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'PCM' unmute && amixer set 'PCM' 80%
[07:11] <mtv> crimsun: that setting is due to my latest flurry of changes.  I set PCM to unmute and 80 percent volume.  Still nothing coming out of the speakers
[07:11] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'IEC958' mute
[07:12] <redl> The mount point is root
[07:13] <robotgeek> crimsun: is this a nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) card you are debugging?
[07:13] <mtv> crimsun: still no audio
[07:13] <crimsun> robotgeek: doesn't seem so from the list.
[07:13] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[07:13] <crimsun> robotgeek: those are normally displayed as 'CK804' in the list.
[07:13] <robotgeek> crimsun: i have that card and i have seen this IEC958 thing there (dunno what it is)
[07:14] <robotgeek> crimsun: yes, i have the same
[07:14] <robotgeek> i have managed to get everything except the center speaker to work on my 7.1
[07:14] <mtv> crimsun: set to mute nothing
[07:14] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[07:15] <crimsun> robotgeek: it really depends on the AC'97 codec's revision.
[07:15] <crimsun> some STAC*/ALC* require it set to particular value.
[07:15] <mtv> crimsun: no sound with that set to 0
[07:15] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'Line Jack Sense' mute && amixer set 'Headphone Jack Sense' mute
[07:16] <robotgeek> crimsun: i really did not find a setting for it, so i did not bother. however, i could only get my other side speakers to work in the "duplicate front" mode
[07:16] <mtv> crimsun: still without sound
[07:16] <crimsun> mtv: cat /proc/asound/version
[07:17] <mtv> crimsun
[07:17] <mtv> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[07:18] <crimsun> mtv: lsb_release -r
[07:19] <mtv> 7.04
[07:19] <crimsun> ...
[07:19] <crimsun> that's a /really/ different alsa-kernel version.
[07:19] <robotgeek> for what its worth crimsun , i have 1.0.14
[07:20] <mtv> crimsun: yeah its says release   7.04
[07:20] <crimsun> mtv: I presume you inserted a different alsa-kernel version manually?
[07:20] <jordo23> How do you install gnome without switching over to Ubuntu with metapackages and stuff?
[07:20] <crimsun> cos we definitely didn't ship 7.04 with 1.0.12rc1
[07:20] <robotgeek> jordo23: you just install ubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <mtv> crimsun: nope, all i did was upgrade from dapper to edgy to fiesty in one day.  Now no audio
[07:20] <Dr_willis> jordo23,  'switching over' ? you install ubuntu-desktop - and it mught change some default boot/splash gfx. but thats about it.
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: ah, so you're still running an older kernel
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: uname -r
[07:21] <mtv> crimsun: 2.6.17-11-386
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: right, as I suspected.
[07:22] <crimsun> mtv: you should reboot into 2.6.20-16-386 or 2.6.20-16-generic
[07:22] <mtv> need upgrade that bad boy kernel huh.
[07:22] <mtv> alrighty
[07:22] <crimsun> mtv: be aware that one extra step is likely necessary
[07:22] <premier_> Hello, I'm was trying to get a tv to work with an s-video cable and my ati card (fglrx) and now the kcontrol center crashes when I load up the monitors section
[07:22] <crimsun> ...or you can /quit
[07:23] <premier_> is there a way to automatically fix my system?
[07:24] <jordo23> Dr_willis: That's what I mean....is there a way to keep the Kubuntu art and screens....?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> jordo23,  ya can always chnge them back. i tend to disable the silly splash screens and logos.   so i never notice the differance
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !splash
[07:24] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> !bootsplash
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what was the other factoid
[07:26] <premier_> !x
[07:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:26] <Jucato> !usplash
[07:26] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:27] <Jucato> Dr_willis, premier_ ^^^^
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Yet somthing else i disable. :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I must be old-skool
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. the wife would love it - if i could put the Grandbabies pic on the splash screen.
[07:28] <premier_> Jucato: whats is it?
[07:28] <Jucato> usplash == *buntu bootsplash
[07:28] <Jucato> nuff said. thank you
[07:29] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: my computer allows to put a custom image on boot. i have a kubuntu image i made :). sadly, it has to uploaded into firmware from windows :)
[07:29] <crimsun> mtv: right, you parted before I could finish...
[07:29] <Dr_willis> rob_,  heh  one on the bios. I think mine did that also.. one i had even 'talked'  during the POST messages.. but only with the onboard sound.
[07:29] <mtv> crimsun: yes i saw you wrote something as everything was restarting
[07:29] <crimsun> 01:22 < crimsun> mtv: be aware that one extra step is likely necessary
[07:29] <Dr_willis> rob_,  such silly features eh. :)
[07:30] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: hmm, incorrect tab completion :0
[07:30] <mtv> crimsun: i imagine that one step may be actually installing the kernel :)
[07:31] <crimsun> mtv: if you had linux-image installed, that should have happened already.
[07:31] <robotgeek> you must have woken a poor soul up :)
[07:31] <Dr_willis> heh. :)
[07:31] <Dr_willis> i still think irc clients should put the last person that chatted at the top of the nick-completion list
[07:32] <mtv> well 2.6.17-11-386 is the latest installed on this system, as i saw on grub
[07:32] <Dr_willis> when ya get 300+ peopkle in  the rooms - its getting to be a needed feature
[07:32] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: doesn't irssi do that?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> robotgeek,  not that ive seen. using xchat here.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> of course xchat seems to keep LOSEING features. :)
[07:32] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: yes, i'm pretty sure irssi does that
[07:34] <mtv> crimsun: what is that step i would have to take?
[07:34] <Dr_willis> well night all
[07:36] <a1> i am biginer / ubuntu  or  kubuntu  is beter version ?
[07:36] <robotgeek> a1: heh, kubuntu
[07:36] <robotgeek> a1: anyways, it is pretty easy to switch over, so no worries there
[07:36] <a1> thecs  robotgeek
[07:36] <crimsun> mtv: sudo aptitude install linux-image
[07:36] <crimsun> mtv: or, sudo aptitude install linux-generic
[07:37] <crimsun> mtv: if you have a compelling reason to want -386, use sudo aptitude install linux-386
[07:42] <intelikey> why would x11-common depend on laptop-detect ?
[07:42] <robotgeek> intelikey: maybe the mouse support?
[07:43] <intelikey> thats like saying,  if you run linux laptop-detect has to be installed
[07:43] <intelikey> the more /me despizes *buntu
[07:43] <robotgeek> ooooh noes, don't say that intelikey  :)
[07:44] <rollerskatejamms> Whenever I open Konquerer to browse files my load goes to like 8 and disk IO goes through the roof
[07:44] <intelikey> note*   x11-common   has nothing (or extreemly little) to do with xorg.
[07:44] <rollerskatejamms> any ideas?
[07:44] <crimsun> intelikey: on gutsy, it doesn't appear to at all
[07:45] <robotgeek> anyways, i gotta go to work tomorrow, so night
[07:45] <intelikey> hmmm  well that's a good thought.  but try removing laptop-detect and look at the list of things it will take with it....
[07:45] <intelikey> robotgeek gooday
[07:46] <Jucato> intelikey: apparently that's only true on dapper
[07:46] <intelikey> Jucato well good...   maybe there is hope.
[07:47] <harcol> Holaaa
[07:48] <intelikey> i've been installing things without their dependancies lately,   heh  kinda tricky but so far so good
[07:48] <jontec> O_o
[07:49] <Jucato> no surprise there... that's highly likely of intelikey :)
[07:49] <intelikey> :)
[07:51] <intelikey> ooops.   setting the clock caused that   if it broadcast the away
[07:52] <intelikey> is it ok to timestamp system files say 10 years ago ?
[07:52] <intelikey> or 60 years ago even ?
[07:53] <jontec> absolutely
[07:53] <jontec> yes
[07:53] <mod_config> question: I'm wanting to switch to ubuntu, and I'm also wanting to remove traces of kde, to install Ubuntu, I run ubuntu-desktop package. But how do I remove the kde packages?
[07:54] <intelikey> mod_config apt-get remove --purge '*qt*'     then install the gnome package
[07:54] <mod_config> intelikey: that's it?
[07:55] <intelikey> try it and see
[07:55] <mod_config> heh, okay thanks.
[07:56] <mod_config> intelikey: now, do I use the ' around qt also?
[07:56] <intelikey> i added the '' so the shell wouldn't try to expand the stars...           you can do gnome that way with '*gtk*'    both are a bit messy
[07:57] <mod_config> okay
[07:57] <intelikey> but generally affective
[07:57] <jontec> T_T I hate just about all gnome apps...
[07:57] <jontec> 'cept gparted... it's the man
[07:58] <intelikey> hate ?    well that's hate speach if there ever was any
[07:58] <mod_config> this is the error I got back: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[07:58] <mod_config> with and without the ''
[07:58] <intelikey> 'libqt*'  maybe
[07:58] <vecina> How come if i log into ubuntu without going through safe mode first my monitor loses signal? o.O
[07:58] <mtv> crimsun:  you there?
[07:59] <crimsun> mtv: yes
[07:59] <mtv> crimsun: i have sound with the update kernel, though it only works with headphone enabled and there is a lot of static or white noise i guess
[07:59] <intelikey> vecina cause the xorg.conf is misconfigured i would assume
[08:00] <jontec> what's that command that fixes that that never helps
[08:00] <crimsun> mtv: 'Headphone' or 'Headphone Jack Sense' ?
[08:00] <vecina> intelikey: I wish i knew exactly how to fit it. shall i post my xorg?
[08:00] <mod_config> ah, working without the first * . thanks intelikey
[08:00] <jontec> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... or something
[08:00] <jontec> no, that's not it
[08:00] <vecina> no that screws things up
[08:01] <mtv> crimsun: headphone
[08:01] <jussi01> could someone tell me the peice of software to use for crating a dvd out of several avi's (xvid)
[08:01] <jussi01> ??
[08:01] <crimsun> mtv: right, that's expected.  It should be left unmuted.
[08:01] <contraY> what's a open PDF viwer?
[08:01] <intelikey> vecina see jontec ^   "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:01] <contraY> thanks
[08:01] <jontec> vecina: exactly, don't do it. If it works in live cd I'd look and see if there's somethign special about your video card
[08:01] <jontec> intelikey: are you sure that's the right command?
[08:01] <vecina> jontec: It DIDNt work in live cd, i had to do some sort of weird stuff.
[08:02] <jontec> intelikey: I don't think it is :D
[08:02] <vecina> and i have an ATI Radeon x700... the evilest of all
[08:02] <crimsun> mtv: make sure 'Master Mono' is unmuted and non-zero (80% seems tolerable on the affected AC'97 codecs)
[08:02] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:02] <intelikey> jontec the live CD will probably be using vesa driver.   yes that's the command
[08:02] <crimsun> mtv: you /might/ need 'Headphone Jack Sense' unmuted, too
[08:02] <contraY> what's a good PDF viwer?
[08:02] <crimsun> kpdf
[08:02] <intelikey> is there any such thing as "good pdf" ????
[08:03] <jontec> vecina: intelikey will have the expert advice, but I usually just go to ubuntuforums and search
[08:04] <jontec> lol
[08:04] <mtv> crimsun: no sound with settings changed with jack sensor and with master mono and master at 80 percent
[08:04] <vecina> intelikey: I know dpkg-reconfigure, but when i do that it screws up the settings that envy made. ATI isnt very well supported
[08:04] <jontec> vecina: oh and what kind of weird stuff? do you mean like safe graphics mode? or like editing the xorg.conf file?
[08:04] <intelikey> vecina if it doesn't work without safe mode then how can it "screw it up"   it's already wrong.
[08:04] <vecina> jontec: As in, it iwll set my graphics driver to something wrong like NV
[08:05] <vecina> intelikey: why dont i just paste my xorg?
[08:05] <crimsun> mtv: then do the following:  rm /etc/udev/rules.d/85-alsa.rules, then reboot
[08:05] <vecina> intelikey: so at least ill know what to do
[08:05] <intelikey> well postbin that jo jo
[08:05] <vecina> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <crimsun> mtv: sudo rm, that is
[08:05] <vecina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26080/
[08:05] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:05] <vecina> Lets see if thats any good :/
[08:06] <jontec> vecina: my ATi card was fine before proprietary drivers and worked even better after
[08:06] <intelikey> hmmmm you know,  i don't have a browser installed yet.....
[08:06] <jontec> hehe
[08:06] <ringo> is there any way in kubuntu to recover removed files ? (help please, n00b)
[08:06] <vecina> jontec: the ATI works great... its the loading screen that crashes my monitor
[08:07] <vecina> Something about its format or something is causing a signal crash
[08:07] <contraY> ok
[08:07] <intelikey> ringo possable  how important are they?   are you running the system in question?   how many seconds has the fs been mounted sense the rm ?
[08:08] <jontec> vecina: (I was debating the comment 'ATI isn't very well supported' :D) do you have proprietary drivers for your card (not sure if that would help... just doing some information collection)
[08:08] <jontec> installed that is
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> R
[08:08] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[08:09] <vecina> jontec: i installed via envy, so yes. the non-proprietary drivers sucked.
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> I was wondering why I had an SMTP server on my machine
[08:09] <ringo> 8/10 in importance. yes. don't understand the third :(
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> and if it is really required that it listens on *:smtp
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> err...i'm trying to use an intel intergrated chipset for my graphics card
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> instead of just localhost
[08:09] <jontec> vecina: I've heard of envy, I'll look it up, but okay.
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> xorg is not detecting it correctly, which driver do i use?
[08:10] <vecina> jontec: it goes to the site and gets the latest upgrade so you dont have to :)
[08:10] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:10] <intelikey> ringo eeeek.   the more disk activity (fs read/writes) after the rm the less likely a full recovery.   ext# fs does not facilitate any form of "undelete"  and auto defrags constantly    "sorta"
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: maybe you can help...
[08:11] <vecina> The problem is the LOADING SCREEN. Safe mode lets me skip it, its when it tries to load it up that i get an issue. But it gets even worse - i have to go through safe mode so i can reinstall dbus, because for some stupid reason that thing gets borked every time i boot up - or shut down, whatever the case may be
[08:12] <vecina> not to mention Pal and/or Hal, i cant figure out which of those is the problem with my graphics so i reinstall both...
[08:13] <intelikey> hal=hardware abstraction layer
[08:13] <jontec> vecina: is this feisty? (I've been having problems with my loading screen, too... like it relaoding several times and still not shutting down, though I'm not sure if it's a recognized problem)
[08:13] <vecina> Well one of them is screwing up. Nexuiz locks up unless i reinstall both... or just one, dunno which
[08:13] <jontec> vecina: also is this amd64 or 32-bit?
[08:14] <vecina> heck, sometimes nexuiz locks up anyway...
[08:14] <vecina> jontec: yes, feisty. AMD64
[08:15] <intelikey> the latest and greatest in 64bit soup
[08:15] <contraY> bye
[08:15] <contraY> soup?
[08:15] <vecina> I wish dearly that i had not gotten a 64 bit
[08:16] <intelikey> vecina they'll run the 32bit version too
[08:16] <jontec> vecina: yeah, me too sometimes :D...
[08:16] <jontec> si
[08:16] <jontec> or you can explore chroot, which I am investigating
[08:16] <vecina> intelikey: any idea why dbus gets borked? thats what automounts stuff like flash drives
[08:16] <jontec> but I guess if it's failing on a normal boot, you probably don't care about it
[08:17] <intelikey> dbus serves as an interprocess communication vehical
[08:17] <vecina> intelikey: so... it being ruined every time i start up could have a lot of bad effects
[08:18] <intelikey> well enough if dbus is hosed then automounting will probably crap out also
[08:18] <mtv> crimsun: i am back after a long reboot
[08:18] <vecina> intelikey: So what could be destroying it? how can i stop it?
[08:18] <intelikey> vecina yes   lots of things expecting to use dbus
[08:19] <intelikey> vecina file a bug and hope  ?
[08:19] <intelikey> !bug
[08:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:19] <vecina> intelikey: ... oy
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: can you help me out with my video problem
[08:19] <mtv> crimsun: i still have the same problem.  Sound but only with headphone enabled
[08:19] <vecina> intelikey: well hold on... is there any way to read a log of what happened last time i logged out?
[08:20] <intelikey> vecina /var/log/*
[08:20] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago what it is ?
[08:20] <crimsun> mtv: your phrasing is a bit unclear.  Are you saying only headphones (not speakers) are audible, or are you saying that sound is audible only if 'Headphone' is unmuted?
[08:21] <vecina> :P
[08:21] <mtv> crimson: when headphone is unmuted
[08:22] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago   lshw | less   see if   i810   is not the driver you want.
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: would it list the driver I need?
[08:23] <intelikey> lshw will list the card
[08:23] <intelikey> you use the driver for the card
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know the driver
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i have the card though
[08:24] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago probably   i810   but better to check.    i'd say pastebin the vidio section of   lshw   but i still haven't installed a browser......
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> paste.stgarber.org/1653
[08:25] <intelikey> nah i'm enjoying the freedom to much to mess it up.
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.stgraber.org/1653
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry thats the real link.
[08:27] <intelikey> same link
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> no, typo in the first one
[08:30] <mtv> crimsun: i think sticking headphone as my default will be fine.  I appreciate your help very much.
[08:30] <crimsun> mtv: ok
[08:36] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago not bad.     revisit your post    see line 99
[08:37] <intelikey> i don't have a web browser installed   hehhhe
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i'm trying somethings out
[08:38] <epimeth> good morning folks!
[08:38] <intelikey> epimeth shalom
[08:40] <nickgraber> how do I find out what speed my network link is running at from the terminal?
[08:41] <dvm>    How to catch USB interrupts in 'C'. I am in a situation that i need to call a particular function that written in 'C' whenever an USB device is plugged.
[08:50] <fusiogen> hi
[08:50] <fusiogen> french?
[08:50] <intelikey> !fr
[08:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <fusiogen> merci les filles :)
[08:50] <intelikey> merci buco

[08:52] <fusiogen> on Konversation irc   where i can go to @qnet  where is the onfiguration for tape it and go to qnet?
[08:52] <fusiogen> ou doisje aller pour configurer konversation irc pour pouvoir aller dans quacknet
[08:55] <sivaji> !shipit
[08:55] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[08:55] <intelikey> gooday all. and peace be with you.
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, any ideas on how to fix my sound issue? I'm not getting anything out
[09:00] <vecina> *sigh*
[09:00] <vecina> is there any reason why the kubuntu loading screen would crash my computer? what drivers and such does it try to use?
[09:01] <crimsun> usplash vs. fglrx/nvidia?
[09:01] <vecina> crimsun: usplash?
[09:01] <crimsun> vecina: the blue kubuntu logo (not in KDM)?
[09:02] <crimsun> (black background)
[09:02] <crimsun> or is it purple?
[09:02] <crimsun> I haven't seen the usplash logo in some time
[09:02] <vecina> crimsun: yes, that one
[09:02] <crimsun> right, are you using fglrx or nvidia?
[09:02] <vecina> it crashes my monitor
[09:02] <vecina> fglrx
[09:02] <vecina> it did this on the install disk too, i had to use the text installer
[09:02] <crimsun> try booting without usplash
[09:02] <sivaji> how to see my knoqueror history
[09:03] <vecina> without usplash?
[09:03] <sivaji> how to see my konqueror history
[09:03] <vecina> how do you edit the grub entries again?
[09:03] <crimsun> vecina: well, to test, just choose the recovery boot option in the grub boot menu, then when a prompt is presented after it boots, type: telinit 2
[09:04] <vecina> telinit 2? okay... brb
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, just did "sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> didn't work, did I want intel8x0m?
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps I made an error. its an intel controller...hmm
what card
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ultimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps I want ac97-codec?
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: thank you looking...
[09:09] <vecina> okay removing 'splash' did it....
[09:09] <vecina> OMG!
[09:09] <vecina> And now DBUS is working!!!!!
[09:09] <vecina> So, safe mode shuts off dbus.... huh!
[09:09] <vecina> *slaps face*
[09:10] <illmortal> Does anyone know how to tweak/overclock NVIDIA video cards?
[09:10] <obvio171_> i want to split a big flac into individual tracks according to the cue sheet, does anyone know of a program that does that?
audacity
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: okay i may sound like an idiot here, which card do I have then?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> also, if i need intel8x0m, how do i unload 8x0?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i think I have ICH4
 rmmod
[09:11] <obvio171_> insmod: it does that automatically or do i have to check the times in the cue sheet and do it myself?
 try till one works there are only three
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> okay trying
 flac audio ?
[09:12] <obvio171_> insmod: yep
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> its "in use"...trying something else
 what cue sheet
[09:13] <obvio171_> insmod: it's a text file that comes with it saying the names of the tracks and the start times of each of them.
[09:13] <obvio171_> amarok recognizes this and lets you jump to a specific point in the file given by the cue sheet
[09:13] <obvio171_> but i wanted to have separate files for different tracks
no idea sorry -- uadacity is an audio recorder editor
[09:14] <insmod> audacity that is
[09:15] <obvio171_> hm, ok
[09:15] <obvio171_> insmod: thanks anyway. i'll look into it :)
[09:15] <Rictoo> What would be the best KDE partition manager which can also handle NTFS and hopefully won't screw up my system? :)
[09:19] <bryan> hi, can anyone tell me why my OS X install disc wont mount in Ubuntu? little frustrated, need to re-nstall OS X, but cd wont mount, and isnt booting?
[09:19] <jontec> rictoo: I don't know of one.... install gparted
[09:19] <osinkin>    mc
[09:20] <jontec> Rictoo: qtparted it a piece of crap
[09:20] <jontec> is*
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: a reboot worked...I feel like a windows user. Thanks
[09:23] <epimeth> bryan: could be the disc is busted....
[09:23] <bryan> epimeth- it mounted fine in osx
[09:24] <epimeth> bryan: but like you said, the computer won't boot from it
[09:24] <epimeth> brb folks... something is screwy with my network :-(
to not reboot just rmmod or kill the pid or program eg rmmod nvidia or kill 1809 or killall -9 gedit
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll remember that
[09:27] <emin3m95> hi all/ Salut tout le monde
[09:31] <fusiogen> emin3m95: salut
[09:31] <fusiogen> :)
[09:43] <emin3m95> un francais?(ou du moins francophone)
[09:51] <fusiogen> ouyi
[09:51] <fusiogen> oui francais
[09:52] <emin3m95> tu t'y connais bien en ubuntu?
[09:54] <fusiogen> non
[09:54] <fusiogen> je debute :(
[09:54] <fusiogen> et je suis sous Kunbuntu depuis talheur ^
[09:54] <fusiogen> ^^
[09:54] <fusiogen> et jarrive pas a faire marcher le wifi
[09:54] <fusiogen> et encor moins steam
[09:55] <emin3m95> erf
[09:55] <emin3m95> moi je pexu peu t'aider
[09:55] <emin3m95> peux*
[09:55] <bjwebb_> please can someone help
[09:55] <jontec> hola
[09:55] <bjwebb_> ctrl + esc won't show any processes
[09:57] <fusiogen> cool
[09:57] <fusiogen> :)
[09:57] <bjwebb_> http://two.xthost.info/linux/snapshot1.png
[09:57] <fusiogen> on peut faire une convers vocal?
[09:58] <jontec> no
[09:58] <emin3m95> ha on peut pas parler en pv, vive le flood alors
[09:58] <jontec> (lol, sorry)
[09:58] <fusiogen> mdr
[09:58] <emin3m95> une converse en vocal ou ca?
[09:58] <fusiogen> sur msn
[09:58] <jontec> bjwebb_: why do you need to see the processes? (I've never used ctrl + esc)
[09:59] <emin3m95> y'a pas msn sur kubuntu ^^
[09:59] <bjwebb_> because i can't use any apt program because it says apt is already running
[09:59] <bjwebb_> and i don't have it open
[09:59] <fusiogen> bha si mdr
[09:59] <jontec> bjwebb_: is syntaptic/adept running?
[09:59] <bjwebb_> not that i know of
[09:59] <fusiogen> demarer internet kopete
[09:59] <fusiogen> demarer internet kopete
[09:59] <bjwebb_> theres no window
[10:00] <fusiogen> ^^
[10:00] <bjwebb_> which is why i want to find wat it is and end it
[10:00] <emin3m95> j'ai lopete et gaim, je prefere gaim
[10:00] <emin3m95> mais je peux pas t'envoyer mon addresse ici, y'a pas de pv...
[10:01] <jontec> bjwebb_: everyone here looks dead, ask on #ubuntu, tell them that you need to get into apt, but you can't close adept/synaptic... or just that you need to unlock apt-get
[10:02] <fusiogen> k
[10:02] <fusiogen> moi cest pandiboy@zik.dj cest mon msn
[10:03] <fusiogen> tape /join #pvici
[10:19] <fusiogen> fr
[10:19] <fusiogen> francais
[10:19] <fusiogen> french
[10:20] <pag> !fr
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <emin3m95> c'est pas faux
[10:20] <fusiogen> merci
[10:20] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <emin3m95> !fr
[10:20] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:20] <fusiogen>  he  he
[10:20] <emin3m95> lol
[10:20] <fusiogen> wp :) fp
[10:21] <emin3m95> bon go sur kubuntu-fr
[10:25] <sivaji_> hi epimeth
[10:25] <epimeth> hi sivaji_
[10:25] <epimeth> :-)
[10:26] <sivaji_>  !gpg
[10:26] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[10:26] <epimeth> sivaji_: you actually check to see who logged in?
[10:26] <sivaji_> ho
[10:27] <epimeth> you calling me a garden instrument?
[10:27] <sivaji_> are u asking me
[10:31] <Lynoure> hmmm
[10:32] <ciacon> hi @ all... I have a question. How can I best make my files acessable over the internet using apache... best login based
[10:35] <dev_> hello
[10:37] <ciacon> hi dev_
[10:40] <dev_> I am using 7.04, but since last 2-4 days I am having problem.
[10:40] <dev_> When I start machine and start typing anything then after some characters, it start removing from last (like backspace).
[10:40] <dev_>  so I just can't type anything. It get solved automatically after some restart
[10:40] <chuen> !info Amarok
[10:40] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB
[10:40] <FisherPrice> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <chuen> Hi. Does anyone know whetehr, if I upgrade from Edgy to Feisy apps are automatically upgrded to the latest version for the Feisty?
[10:42] <Fr0de> chuen: assuming there are updated versions available in the repos, yes
[10:44] <Fr0de> chuen: are you upgrading by using apt-get ?
[10:45] <oOpusOoperandi> hi
[10:45] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: hi :)
[10:45] <oOpusOoperandi> hi
[10:45] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:46] <fusiogen> fr
[10:46] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> why can you use a number and it didn't let me?
[10:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> does Kaffeine work best with xine?
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> that's what I've I installed
[10:46] <fusiogen> merci
[10:47] <oOpusOoperandi> what else is important to get ALL multimedia RIGHT?
[10:47] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: you mean the number in my nick? I dunno why, maybe I'm just lucky..
[10:47] <fusiogen> merci :)
[10:47] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: I prefer vlc - kaffeine scews up sound sync in mp4 playbacks
[10:48] <oOpusOoperandi> oh
[10:48] <fusiogen> merci :D
[10:48] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: at least, it does for me
[10:48] <Fr0de> YMMV :P
[10:49] <oOpusOoperandi> Fr0de: so what's a bulletproof line for VLC?
[10:49] <oOpusOoperandi> to get it right at first shot
[10:49] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: you mean to install it?
[10:50] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: sudo aptitude install vlc
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> yeah
[10:50] <fusiogen> merci merci :D
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> that's it?
[10:50] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: from memory, yeah..
[10:50] <fusiogen> non merci :D
[10:51] <uwe_> uwe, sorry :)
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> ok any of you guys using either TASTY MENU or KICKOFF?
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> I can't find neither in apt-get
[10:53] <fusiogen> so st :)
[10:53] <fusiogen> su
[10:53] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: you can't find them because they're not ther :)
[10:53] <Jucato> there*
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> why??!!!
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> they are kewl
[10:54] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: not me.. I keep my setup fairly plain - keeps it simple
[10:54] <PolitikerNEU> they suck
[10:54] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: one simple reason. no one has stepped up to package or maintain it for Kubuntu.
[10:54] <PolitikerNEU> especially tasty menu ... you have to make a klick to enter each menu level ... very inefficient
[10:54] <oOpusOoperandi> Fr0de: you kidding me right? Like KDE embodies the qualities of simplicity
[10:54] <oOpusOoperandi> ha ha ha
[10:55] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: simple, but not braindead :P
[10:55] <PolitikerNEU> and - by the way: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[10:55] <oOpusOoperandi> LMAO you got me in stitches with that
[10:56] <oOpusOoperandi> PolitikerNEU: mm... it's tempting
[10:56] <oOpusOoperandi> wtf is FALF
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> http://falf.sourceforge.net/
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> A media player for kde
[10:58] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't know about ksmoothdock, looks it's no longer maintained ---> Updated:  Apr 19 2007
[10:59] <Jucato> what's your definition of no longer maintained? O.o
[11:00] <Jucato> er.. that's*
[11:00] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: hasn't  been updated since then
[11:00] <oOpusOoperandi> could brake havoc on my shiny new Fiesta
[11:00] <Jucato> and??? there are apps that are still working and being used today that might have not been updated since... hm.. say 2006?
[11:00] <Fr0de> less than 2 months = not maintained now?
[11:01] <oOpusOoperandi> what about tastymenu, is that in developement?
[11:01] <Jucato> there is this little thing called "development period", you know... when you do development stuff, fix bugs, add features, etc... a period where you don't really release anything... can last for weeks, months...
[11:02] <chuen> Fr0de: So sorry, I had to answer a phone call ...
[11:02] <Fr0de> chuen: that's ok, no problem :)
[11:02] <oOpusOoperandi> what's the most popular O$ X type of taskbar?
[11:02] <oOpusOoperandi> I mean those icons that jump?
[11:03] <chuen> I was going to use Adept, but had errors - if I put my sources.list on pasteboard, would you mind having a look?
[11:03] <Fr0de> sure thing
[11:03] <chuen> Fr0de: Thx - one sec...
[11:05] <oOpusOoperandi> how do I install those .deb packages?
[11:05] <oOpusOoperandi> I click on them and don't install
[11:05] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: download them, then dpkg -i <package.deb>
[11:05] <chuen> Fr0de: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26094/
[11:06] <Fr0de> chuen: looking now.. :)
[11:06] <chuen> Fr0de: kk
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> ok I did
[11:06] <PolitikerNEU> right click --> ubuntu package menu --> install
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> now whre are they supposed to be?
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> snoothdock is not showiwng up
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> by the way is smoothdock the most popular O$ X type?
[11:07] <Fr0de> chuen: what do you get if you 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[11:08] <oOpusOoperandi> both aren't showing up
[11:08] <chuen> Fr0de: A few fetch errors - shall I pste here? About 6 of them.
[11:08] <oOpusOoperandi> nor Tasty Menu nor Ksmoothdock
[11:08] <Fr0de> chuen: actually, you're mixing a lot of different version repos..
[11:09] <Fr0de> chuen: you want it to be all feisty, right?
[11:09] <chuen> Fr0de: That's right.
[11:09] <lithiumX>  does anyone know where tour applications go when their installed?
[11:10] <Fr0de> chuen: does your ISP provide a mirror to download from?
[11:11] <chuen> Fr0de: I doubt it.
[11:11] <oOpusOoperandi> mm... I am not too hot about ksmoothdock, I would call it kstiffdock
[11:11] <Fr0de> chuen: it's worth checking, especially if you have a download quota
[11:11] <chuen> Fr0de: Thy want nothing to do with Linux :)
[11:12] <chuen> Fr0de:  no d/load quota - could download (K)ubuntu image in one go.
[11:12] <Fr0de> chuen: that's ok, then.. :)
[11:12] <chuen> Fr0de: Shall I paste errors?
[11:13] <darkrift_> the guy in xchat channel is an *@#&
[11:13] <oOpusOoperandi> great it just crashed
[11:13] <Ayabara> I have a dual monitor setup in kubuntu, and I would like focus to follow the screen my pointer is in. Is there a way to do this?
[11:13] <chuen> Fr0de: Thos one looks weird: http://archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <oOpusOoperandi> as I  said, no longer in development. I was kinda right
[11:13] <darkrift_> i remember open source help providers being less egotistical back in the day
[11:14] <Fr0de> chuen: yeah paste the errors
[11:14] <darkrift_> must be too many windows users going over
[11:14] <chuen> Errhttp://archivey.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages
[11:14] <chuen>   Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Fetched 7B in 1s (7B/s)
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <oOpusOoperandi> on top of that not compatible with berl
[11:14] <chuen> Reading package lists... Done
[11:14] <chuen> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:14] <Fr0de> chuen: lol - I meant paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:15] <chuen> Fr0de: Sorry, thought it was shorter :(
[11:15] <Fr0de> chuen: but never mind..
[11:15] <Fr0de> lol
[11:15] <jordo23> How do you set your default Torrent program in Kubuntu?
[11:15] <oOpusOoperandi> it has an ugly scratched white and black bllock above, icons are jagged and mad pixelated, no transparency
[11:15] <darkrift_> I understand this is not the proper place to ask, but having many helpfull and knowledgeable ppl around, im hoping for a hint.. Does anyone here know how to unload a .tcl file from xchat?
[11:16] <Fr0de> chuen: I think you want 'archive.ubuntu...' not 'archivey.ubuntu...'
[11:16] <Fr0de> chuen: drop that rogue 'y'..
[11:16] <darkrift_> dont typo's suck?
[11:17] <chuen> Fr0d: That's what I thought :) Don't know hwere the 'y' came from
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> Tasty Menu doesn't even show up on the Start Menu
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> so I can't configure it
[11:17] <Fr0de> chuen: kill it... :P
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> that's great
[11:17] <chuen> Fr0de: OK - just delet the 'y', right?>
[11:17] <Fr0de> chuen: and change every spo where edgy or dapper is mentioned to feisty
[11:18] <Fr0de> spot
[11:18] <chuen> Fr0de: OK Thx
[11:18] <Fr0de> chuen: save a backup of the file first!
[11:18] <Fr0de> :P
[11:18] <chuen> Fr0de: OK :)
[11:19] <Fr0de> chuen: then run 'sudo apt-get update' and see how it goes
[11:19] <jordo23> Where in KDE to you set file associations for torrent files? They open in Bittorrent and I need them to open in Ktorrent
[11:20] <Fr0de> jordo23: right-click on a .torrent file, then click the little spanner
[11:22] <galathalion> why aint my screensaver working?
[11:22] <oOpusOoperandi> OMG kiba is installing 3/4 of Gnome stuff
[11:22] <oOpusOoperandi> OMG what have I done!!!
[11:23] <jordo23> Fr0de: Thanks.....forgot how to do that...
[11:23] <Fr0de> jordo23: all good now? :)
[11:24] <jordo23> Fr0de: yep....
[11:24] <Fr0de> jordo23: I meant to say right-click, get Properties, then click spanner, of course :P
[11:24] <jordo23> If In installed ubuntu-desktop, is there a way to uninstall Gnome and stuff and leave my KDe setup intact?
[11:24] <Fr0de> missed the middle step.. hehe
[11:25] <Fr0de> jordo23: hmm.. should be a matter of making sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, then remove ubuntu-desktop, I think
[11:25] <Fr0de> jordo23: disclaimer: I've never tried it! :P
[11:25] <jordo23> Fr0de: I want to get rid of all the Gnome stuff too....gnome apps, etc...
[11:25] <chuen> Fr0de: Ok, I'll do that now . TTYS (hopefully!)
[11:26] <Fr0de> chuen: good luck
[11:26] <Jucato> jordo23: hold on a sec
[11:26] <jordo23> Jucato: Hey Jucato...
[11:26] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:26] <Fr0de> jordo23: it *might* all go when you kill the gnome desktop stuff..
[11:27] <jordo23> Jucato: Thanks....but which should I do, the top method or the complete (bottom) method?
[11:28] <knubbe> hi, im trying to install the java-plugin for my mozilla web browser. even though ive installed java6-plugin it simply wont work. (it says the plugin is missing then im going to a web page with a java applet)
[11:28] <knubbe> anyone who knows why?
[11:28] <Jucato> jordo23: the "top" method is "Remove Ubuntu", while the bottom is "Remove Xubuntu". can you figure out which one you should use? :D
[11:29] <knubbe> i have the exact same problem with mplayer, so i think there might be something wrong with my plugins-folder (wherever i find that one)
[11:29] <Fr0de> chuen: I'm going now, so if you have problems, I'm sure someone here will help you further! or check the ubuntu forums on the web.. :)
[11:29] <Fr0de> see you, all!
[11:30] <Jucato> by frodo
[11:30] <Jucato> er... Fr0de :)
[11:30] <Fr0de> lol
[11:30] <Fr0de> byeee
[11:30] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: btw, kiba-dock isn't a KDE app :)
[11:30] <jordo23> Jucato: Does this look right?   http://pastebin.ca/573864
[11:31] <oOpusOoperandi> WOW kiba dock is HOOOT
[11:31] <oOpusOoperandi> hawt!!!
[11:32] <Jucato> jordo23: looks ok
[11:32] <jordo23> Jucato: here goes nothing...
[11:32] <Jucato> jordo23: you can always install "kubuntu-desktop" to make sure you have a working kubuntu in the end
[11:32] <jordo23> Jucato: Will do
[11:33] <jordo23> thanks
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Would you mind having a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26095/
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Fr0de was helping me but had to go ...
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Was tring to upgrade after editing sources.list.
[11:34] <oOpusOoperandi> by the way, you'd need a physics engine to run Kiba-dock
[11:34] <Jucato> chuen: 1) there's not amarok-latest for Feisty. might as well remove that
[11:34] <chuen> Jucato: OK
[11:34] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: kiba-dock comes with it's own, called akamaru
[11:35] <chuen> Jucato: Shoul I just run it again after deleting that entry?
[11:35] <chuen> Will it be any esier if I use Adept?
[11:35] <Jucato> chuen: yes you can run apt-get update again. whether it will be easier in Adept, dunno
[11:36] <chuen> Jucato: I was wondering whethe it might be easier to 'interact' with Adept because of the GUI :)
[11:36] <Jucato> chuen: btw. the "E" stands for errors, you absolutely must fix those to be able to continue working. "W" are for warnings, you can still continue using if you don't fix those
[11:37] <Jucato> chuen: well, yes and no, depending on which version of Kubuntu :)
[11:37] <chuen> Jucato: Current;y , Edgy
[11:37] <danielw> anyone know how to disable the EDC with the DD command?
[11:37] <Jucato> ah well, I'd say that it's a bit of a no...
[11:39] <jordo23> Jucato: Would running all that remove Cedega?
[11:39] <jordo23> I don't see it anymore
[11:40] <Jucato> well looks like it... it may have depended on some GTK library..
[11:40] <Jucato> you can reinstall it. your user-specific cedega settings are usually saved in $HOME anyway
[11:42] <jordo23> Jucato: yeah.....was python-glade2
[11:42] <chuen> Jucato: Didn't get any '"E's" that time.
[11:43] <Jucato> chuen: good. later on, you might want to remove those duplicate entries that it mentions.
[11:43] <chuen> Jucato: OK, thanks. What do I need to do next?
[11:43] <Jucato> chuen: um.. I don't know. what were you trying to do in the first place? :)
[11:44] <chuen> Jucato: Upgrade to Feisty :)
[11:44] <Jucato> !upgrade
[11:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:44] <jordo23> Jucato: Got it back....thanks Jucato
[11:44] <Jucato> hm...
[11:45] <Jucato> chuen: you manually changed your sources.list?
[11:45] <chuen> Jucato: Yes.
[11:45] <Jucato> chuen: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (or in Adept, Full Upgrade)
[11:45] <chuen> Jucato: Fr0do advised.
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: OK, will try Adept
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: Thx for help.
[11:46] <Jucato> chuen: Full Upgrade -> Preview Changes (just to make sure everything's ok) -> Apply Changes
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: OK
[11:48] <oOpusOoperandi> a good P2P program?
[11:49] <oOpusOoperandi> anyone got an idea?
[11:49] <oOpusOoperandi> need one ASAP
[11:52] <PolitikerNEU> amule, mldonkey, ktorrent, azureus ...
[11:52] <PolitikerNEU> what do you need it for?
[11:52] <darkrift_> ktorrent is p2p and not just torrent?
[11:54] <PolitikerNEU> torrent is p2p
[11:54] <vista> how do i get prozilla ?
[11:55] <vista> whats the link to ubuntu-effects chat room ?
[11:55] <PolitikerNEU> #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <Jucato> vista: #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <jordo23> Jucato
[11:55] <vista> how do i get prozilla?
[11:56] <PolitikerNEU> what is prozilla?
[11:56] <jordo23> Jucato: I think when I ran that before it deinstalled flash.....which package to reinstall?
[11:56] <vista> download manager
[11:56] <jordo23> For Macromedia
[11:56] <Jucato> jordo23: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <jordo23> Jucato: Thanks
[11:57] <PolitikerNEU> vista: http://prozilla.genesys.ro/?p=download
[11:57] <PolitikerNEU> debian package should work
[11:58] <vista> PolitikerNEU: there are no debain packages
[11:58] <vista> PolitikerNEU: cant find a debain package
[11:59] <vista> should i try prozgui
[11:59] <PolitikerNEU> yes ... but you could also try d4x
[12:00] <vista> whats d4x ?
[12:00] <vista> can ony help me with kbfx
[12:00] <vista> how do i get this theme working http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Just+Vista?content=59013
[12:01] <vista> PolitikerNEU: i cant install prozgui
[12:01] <PolitikerNEU> d4x = another download manager; what is the error message with prozgui?
[12:01] <PolitikerNEU> of course you need to install the console version first
[12:02] <vista> how do i do that
[12:02] <vista> package libftk1.1c102 not found
[12:02] <vista> dependencey problem
[12:03] <vista> ?
[12:04] <PolitikerNEU> ubuntu somewhat has deleted the prozgui packages ...
[12:04] <vista> so i cant use prozilla nor prozgui ?
[12:05] <faidillinger> ruthless: my style as a juvenile
[12:05] <PolitikerNEU> maybe you can try to install it from source
[12:05] <vista> how?
[12:07] <PolitikerNEU> download the source
[12:08] <PolitikerNEU> then go into the console, cd to your folder, extract the archive (with tar xvfj prozi [TAB]  [ENTER] ), go into the created folder and then run ./configure && make && sudo make install
[12:18] <darkrift_> this mnight be a stupid q, but what do you do with a .bin file (dont think its an image)
[12:18] <darkrift_> nvm
[12:19] <darkrift_> ./ worked
[12:22] <dvm> how to catch usb interrupt using d-bus and hal in  my 'c' code?
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> has anyone installed VmWare Workstatoin aruond here?
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> I am in the process
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> is it difficult?
[12:36] <ethanjulio> My audio just lowered down it's volume...anyone can help me "energize" it back?
[12:37] <oOpusOoperandi> to install Vmweare I am supposed to do this line ln -s linux-headers-2.6.20-16-uname -r linux
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> yet I don' have that ln -s linux-headers-2.6.20-16-uname
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't have anything with uname at the end
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> am I supposed to make that up?
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't         have linux for that matter
[12:39] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: linux-headers-`uname -r` (back quotes)
[12:39] <holger> hi
[12:39] <Jucato> or better yet, just install 'linux-headers-generic"
[12:39] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: I did install that one
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> with the backspaces
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> am I supposed to reboot or something?
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> is not showing up
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> I already did install it
[12:41] <holger> i have a problem with konsole, if i want to start another konsole with a command. for example: konsole -e "echo hello", this will result in an error:
[12:41] <holger> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[12:41] <holger> konsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!
[12:41] <holger> Uh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..
[12:41] <oOpusOoperandi> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:41] <oOpusOoperandi> that's the line I used
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: does uname mean the result of MY uname?
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> or the file is CALLED with uname at the end?
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> I  know uname is a command
[12:42] <Jucato> the uname of the kernel you are currently using
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> ahh lol
[12:43] <Jucato> no, the back quotes means that the command inside is executed and then replaced in the line
[12:43] <oOpusOoperandi> so ln -s to my current one?
[12:43] <Jucato> sort of like embedding a command inside a command
[12:43] <Jucato> dunno really. haven't used vmware workstation
[12:44] <oOpusOoperandi> this is my   uname 2.6.20-16-generic
[12:44] <StErGi0s> anyone knows how to use a vodafone mobile connect card under kubuntu?
[12:45] <oOpusOoperandi> ln: invalid option -- r
[12:45] <oOpusOoperandi> what the
[12:54] <oOpusOoperandi> make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'.  Stop.
[01:00] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't care
[01:03] <oOpusOoperandi> I am getting this error
[01:03] <oOpusOoperandi> sudo: vmware-install.pl: command not found
[01:03] <mcarthur> Do you mean sudo ./vmware-install.pl?
[01:12] <piumaz> !it
[01:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:14] <PolitikerNEU> !de
[01:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:18] <epimeth> anybody here know ASP? I'm trying to write to a file in hebrew but it breaks my script...
[01:19] <_4strO> epimeth: ASP --> berk !
[01:19] <epimeth> _4strO: ???
[01:20] <_4strO> epimeth: asp like active server pages ?
[01:20] <epimeth> _4strO: do you know any other asps?
[01:20] <epimeth> besides the snake of course
[01:21] <happytiger> typing   sudo sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=134217728 at the cmd line set this kernel param for me, then to get that effect on each reboot I need to alter /etc/sysctl.conf. I tried adding " kernel.shmmax=13421772" to it but it didnt work what do I need to type?"
[01:22] <_4strO> epimeth: we never know with 3 letters acronym :p
[01:23] <epimeth> do you want me to show you how I use these???
[01:25] <_4strO> happytiger: think it's about /etc/sysctl.conf
[01:26] <_4strO> argh i didnt read enoiugh
[01:31] <chuen> Hi. I was just upgrading to Feisty using Adept and about half way through got a message that  libqt3 (I think) was 'broken', so the upgrade stopped.
[01:31] <chuen> What's the best thing to do?
[01:32] <julius> so yeah, when i shutdown i get error messages about applications "crashing"
[01:33] <julius> any ideas?
[01:33] <chuen> Jocato: Are you there?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> it's Jucato
[01:35] <chuen> nosrednaekim: Oops :)
[01:35] <chuen> Jucato: Are you there?
[01:36] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: what up amigo?
[01:36] <epimeth> you wouldn't happen to maybe be a web developer, would you?
[01:37] <paolo> > hi, can you suggest me a good linux networking guide? thnks
[01:37] <epimeth> paolo: what, specifically, about networking do you need?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: nope, thankfully
[01:37] <paolo> epimeth: general
[01:38] <epimeth> paolo: that has got to be the single most useless answer I've ever gotten :-) ... what is it you need to know?  there is a *lot* of topics in networking
[01:38] <Gerrit> !fonts
[01:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:39] <chuen> Anyone? What should I do if my upgrade was interrupted by broken package msg.
[01:50] <Aattila> Hi! Do anybody know where can be found the configuration files of katapult?
[01:52] <pag> Aattila, ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc   ?
[01:55] <Aattila> pag: I tried this but somehow there's no katapultrc here
[01:56] <pag> Aattila, do you have katapult installed?
[01:58] <Aattila> pag: yes, I'm using it, but when I searched for katapult I get no seach results
[03:43] <ivin> hello all
[03:51] <Ayabara> do you use the default fonts for firefox and thunderbird?
[03:57] <fer> :O
[04:07] <anon32> stupid join floods..
[04:07] <allenuts> #biyj-xdcc
[04:08] <BluesKaj> morning folks :>)
[04:08] <anon32> BluesKaj, here to continue FUDing? ;-)
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nope anon32, I just don't let ppl get away with insults & personal attacks
[04:09] <anon32> not again.... way too early in the morning for this spiel...
[04:10] <BluesKaj> should I say the word "windows" and get flamed  :) ?
[04:10] <anon32> I broke a window the other day
[04:11] <BluesKaj> it's raining here and i have a leaky window ...
[04:11] <anon32> too bad windows are made from that cruddy fiberglass stuff these days
[04:12] <BluesKaj> we' ordered new ones but they haven't arrived yet... custom sizes n all that
[04:13] <BluesKaj> next door neighbour runs tha local Home Hardware and he keeps avoiding me , cuz i keep bugging him to let his son install kubuntu on his pc
[04:15] <jordo23> Does anyone else find that Ktorrent crashes a lot?  It seems Ktorrent crashes every 45 minutes or so...
[04:16] <anon32> jordo23, nope, but then again, I don't use KTorrent
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> jordo23: I use ktorrent  ot and it hasn't crashed once
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> *a lot
[04:16] <anon32> jordo23, try running it in a terminal. Maybe there's some kind of obvious error.
[04:17] <jordo23> anon32: Yeah....will do...
[04:21] <Daisuke-Ido> i leave ktorrent running (quite literally) 24/7 and have had zero crashes
[04:21] <anon32> I leave azureus running 24/7.... it works, but I have to keep adding RAM
[04:22] <jussi01> ktorrent ftw!
[04:25] <zipper> jordo23, i've had it crash many times
[04:25] <zipper> although not nearly every 45 mins
[04:26] <zipper> give uTorrent for linux please =/
[04:26] <jordo23> zipper: It seems to be crashing on a schedule or something, like in intervals every time....testing it now...
[04:26] <zipper> okay
[04:30] <chuen> Hi. I just upgraded from Edy to Feisy. All seem's OK *except* a couple of USB devices don't seem tobe mounting / responding. They show up in Device Manager on ports though.
[04:32] <xrokos> what's the default program for image preview?
[04:32] <xrokos> sth ....view?
[04:32] <jthomas> can anyone tell me why Launchpad won't accept my bug report?  It always says there is 1 error, but doesn't say where.  I have added text to make it acceptable length but it still won't take it.
[04:36] <icecruncher> how can I ener the root password if I'm using sudo?
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> icecruncher: there is no root password unless you set one up
[04:37] <anon32> !root | icecruncher
[04:37] <ubotu> icecruncher: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:37] <icecruncher> SlimeyPete: yes, so when an app asks for the root wassword, what should I do?
[04:37] <icecruncher> anon32: I know, thnks
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> icecruncher: quit the app. Then run "sudo passwd" o set a root password, then run the app aan and give it that password.
[04:38] <SlimeyPete> *app again
[04:38] <icecruncher> lol
[04:38] <icecruncher> k
[04:39] <Gerrit> I am having locale problems. My locale is nl_NL.utf-8, but gnumeric (which claims to respect the locale) still interprets "12/6" as 6 December rather than 12 June. What might cause this?
[04:42] <codec>  can someone help me with 3d acceleration on an ati card?
[04:43] <anon32> codec, yes. Maybe.
[04:43] <emonkey-f> !ati
[04:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <emonkey-f> !envy
[04:43] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:43] <codec> thank you
[04:50] <chuen> Hi. Can anyone help me out with USB problem after upgrade to Feisty pls?
[04:56] <snake> hi to all
[04:57] <snake> does anyone know any good soft to convert avi to any other format possible that a DVD player can read ??
[04:58] <athena> snake, tovid
[04:58] <athena> but please please please please please don't do that
[05:01] <snake> athena: thank you
[05:02] <athena> snake, might I point out that DVDs suck in general? Use the TV-out on your video card for crying out loud.
[05:02] <flami> Hi, is there a app i can fill out pdf forms with ( best would also be to save them ) . right now i can just view the pdf with ghostview or kpdf
[05:02] <snake> yes i know but in my conditions
[05:02] <snake> i have no other choice
[05:03] <snake> :S
[05:03] <mtv> how would i go about adding hdc and hdd back to my /dev?
[05:03] <athena> flami, probably you need acroread
[05:03] <flami> ok
[05:04] <snake> flami: for saving the pdf
[05:04] <snake> you can use even the print 2 file option in firefox
[05:04] <athena> mtv, with symlinks probably. Why bother?
[05:05] <mtv> athena: well i had a lot of programs setup to detect media on hdd, and hdc.  Those are my dvd drives
[05:05] <athena> mtv, symlink /dev/hdX to /dev/scdX then
[05:05] <athena> or just upgrade your programs
[05:06] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:06] <imlostagain> Hey people. Im a noob so please help me out. :)   ### I got this file on my desktop and i want to install it (its wolfenstein enemy territory) i doubble clik on the icon but nothing happends...... et-linux-2.55.x86.run ### I got an AMD 64 bit machine.
[05:06] <mtv> athena: the latest round of updates got rid of those.  scdx huh
[05:07] <ubuntu__> any boby here to help?
[05:07] <athena> mtv, eh?
[05:07] <athena> they're still here for me..
[05:08] <JuJuBee> When I try to mv *.* ../  from a folder (php manual local copy), It tells me "bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long", how do I override this?
[05:08] <athena> /dev/scd0, /dev/scd1, etc
[05:08] <mtv> athena: thanks that will also fix my swap issue.  My swap disapeared last night with both those
[05:08] <jthomas> JuJuBee: try mv * ../
[05:08] <athena> mtv, um, I suggest a closer inspection of your system. It sounds b0rk3d
[05:08] <mtv> i just hope those scdx dont dissapear as well
[05:09] <JuJuBee> jthomas : same t hing.
[05:09] <JuJuBee> *thing
[05:09] <mtv> oh tell me about.  I did an aweful thing.  Upgraded dapper-edgy-fiesty one night
[05:09] <jthomas> JuJuBee: otherwise it only moves the files with a dot in them (unlike Windows, Linux files don't need a name.ext
[05:09] <JuJuBee> All files have a dot.
[05:09] <JuJuBee> But I see your point.
[05:09] <athena> JuJuBee, not all files have dots...
[05:09] <athena> /etc/fstab for example
[05:09] <JuJuBee> In this dir...
[05:09] <Gerrit> I configured my locale to be nl_NL.UTF-8, but gnumeric still interprets 'xx/yy' as 'mm/dd' rather than 'dd/mm'. In my previous installation (FC4) it was interpreted as 'dd/mm' like I want to. How can I fix this?
[05:09] <jthomas> JuJuBee: how about mv '*' ../
[05:09] <jthomas> ?
[05:10] <JuJuBee> mv: cannot stat `*': No such file or directory
[05:10] <JuJuBee> There are many files I need to move...
[05:11] <jthomas> can you move up a level?  <<cd ..; mv ___/* .>>
[05:11] <JuJuBee> I got it...
[05:12] <jthomas> what was it?
[05:12] <JuJuBee> mv /php_manual_en/html ./php_manunal
[05:12] <JuJuBee> simpler to rename/move the entire folder.
[05:12] <Gerrit> How do I configure KDE in Kubuntu to scroll through desktops with ctrl+tab?
[05:13] <jthomas> aah, yes, you cannot move a folder without adding the -R (recursive) if you just try to move files/folders all at once
[05:14] <Jucato> Gerrit: System Setttings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:14] <Gerrit> Jucato: Ah, thanks. I was looking at multiple desktop configuration.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Jucato : any ideas where i might get some assistance getting NIS to work under feisty?  Been trying for over a week now.
[05:16] <Gerrit> That leaves my gnumeric problem then. I'll ask the gnumeric mailing-list.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Had it working using 6.10.
[05:16] <Jucato> JuJuBee: sorry....
[05:17] <JuJuBee> K
[05:17] <JuJuBee> Other than NIS and LDAP, are there any other centralized authentication options?
[05:19] <mtv> where is power management on kde?
[05:20] <Tm_T> !info kde-guidance-powermanager
[05:20] <ubotu> kde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 328 kB
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what does :(){ :|:& };:  do?
[05:26] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: you know what happens when you next time mention that
[05:26] <mtv> kde-guidance-powermanager was already installed.  I am looking for where i can setup options for power management.
[05:26] <Tm_T> mtv: have you looked around in systemsettings?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  just seen it pasted/ then the guy kickbanned. :) never did actually see/understand what it did.
[05:27] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: well, perhaps you see pattern there then? (;
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  so i found some info on it.  I recall  some discssion about ever growing userscripts/loops/issue like this befor. I forget the fix however.
[05:27] <Tm_T> mtv: I recommend to use search capabilities
[05:28] <mtv> Tm_T: yeah i just thought it would be out there in the open like gnome.   System settings has nothing for hibernate
[05:28] <jacques> je voulais demander quelques chose ici
[05:28] <Tm_T> mtv: if you use searchword "power" ?
[05:28] <Tm_T> !fr | jacques
[05:28] <ubotu> jacques: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:29] <mtv> will do sir
[05:29] <Jucato> nah, the settings for guidance-power-manager is in the app itself.. right-click I think
[05:29] <Jucato> (in the system tray)
[05:30] <mtv> jucato: nothing like that in system tray
[05:30] <Jucato> maybe it's not running, then. is that a laptop?
[05:30] <mtv> desktop
[05:30] <Jucato> ah...
[05:31] <Jucato> try System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Power tab (I think)
[05:31] <Jucato> g-p-m is only for laptops I believe
[05:32] <mtv> jucato: alright i will checkout kpowersave
[05:33] <livingdaylight> two questions... 1. installed webilder but it doesnt work...2.i have attached vga cable from laptop to external monitor and it isn't working...any help with either would be welcome
[05:33] <Solifugus> How can I make Konqueror show html as html, again?  I had it show a text once.. and cannot change it back.. don't see the normal kde tools on kubuntu
[05:44] <mtv> what is the best usenet program with nzb support for linux
[05:44] <pimpin> i have no sound and i have kubuntu 7.04
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> pimpin: did you turn everything up in the mixer?
[05:45] <pimpin> yeap but still nothing
[05:46] <imagine> pimpin: it's a known issue if you have the sndintel driver
[05:46] <imagine> pimpin: have you upgraded your system to the latest update?
[05:46] <pimpin> yeap what else can i do
[05:46] <imagine> dunno I know there's a ALSA dev that hangs out here ... he helped me out few weeks ago with that... it's an ALSA problem
[05:55] <PsySine> I have problems setting monitor resolution
[05:55] <Dr_willis> read up on the !fixres site yet?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[05:55] <PsySine> I can choose 50,51,52,53,54 Hz
[05:56] <PsySine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto this one yes
[05:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:56] <PsySine> but I know kde is the problem
[05:58] <JuJuBee> How come kubuntu 6.10 is not available for download from kubuntu.org/download.php ?
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: why do you want edgy?
[06:00] <JuJuBee> Feisty won't work for me (NIS does not work properly)
[06:00] <JuJuBee> I'm sick of fighting with it to get it working.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> http://mirrors.csumb.edu/ubuntu/kubuntu/
[06:00] <JuJuBee> And failing...
[06:01] <Dr_willis> or any of the other mirror sites have it. the links just go to the feisty dir.
[06:02] <JuJuBee> Damn, I just rememberd why I installed feisty on the server.  Edgy won't install (hardware is very new)  Edgy wouldn't install/
[06:11] <a-865> is there an alternative to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats that speaks KDE instead of Gnome?
[06:15] <athena> a-865, um, RestrictedFormats are restricted no matter what your desktop environment is
[06:15] <a-865> athena: page says applications -> add/remove which doesn't exist in KDE menu
[06:15] <athena> a-865, follow the detailed instructions...
[06:15] <athena> alternatively, just install mplayer. It's the only media player that doesn't suck
[06:15] <BluesKaj> a-865, look at the kicker, jus tbelow utilities add/remove -adept
[06:15] <BluesKaj> adept can add and remove programs from your enabled repositories
[06:16] <a-865> adept is running and has found mplayer, but I can't figure out how to get it to install it :-p
[06:17] <BluesKaj> a-865,  highlight the app , click on apply changes
[06:17] <a-865> no context menus exist
[06:17] <a-865> there is no apply changes
[06:17] <MaTiAz> athena: IMO VLC is great too
[06:17] <athena> MaTiAz, uh, VLC fails.
[06:18] <BluesKaj> did you request install , a-865 ?
[06:18] <MaTiAz> athena: Why?
[06:18] <athena> horrible H.264 support, irritating configuration scheme, and no support at all for subtitles
[06:19] <a-865> adept is inept - apt-get is installing mplayer
[06:20] <Gerrit> What's the difference between "Add/Remove Programs" and "System -> Adept Manager"? Are those two different frontends to apt-get?
[06:20] <Gerrit> Hm
[06:20] <Gerrit> No
[06:20] <Gerrit> Never mind
[06:20] <athena> Gerrit, yes. And the only tool you should use is apt-get.
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: yes
[06:21] <hagabaka> athena: vlc does support subtitles. research before making claims
[06:21] <fdoving> Gerrit: yes, add/remove programs is a selection of the "most commonly used programs" or something like that, adept manager is more advanced with all those packages and features.
[06:21] <Gerrit> athena: I see
[06:21] <athena> hagabaka, no it doesn't. Tried SSA/ASS lately?
[06:21] <athena> nice troll.
[06:21] <hagabaka> those are not the only type of subtitles
[06:21] <Gerrit> athena: Such a gui reminds me of programs whose existance I forgot about, or that I had never heard of. That is why I like it, really.
[06:21] <athena> they're the only kind I ever see...
[06:21] <hagabaka> you said "no support for subtitles at all"
[06:21] <athena> Gerrit, true enough
[06:21] <Gerrit> That's the only reason
[06:22] <athena> hagabaka, fine. "crappy support for the only real subtitles".
[06:22] <hagabaka> it has had some support for all types of subtitles i've encountered. only prolematic with substation alpha
[06:22] <athena> it doesn't exactly take a lot of work to support SRT and VOBsub..
[06:22] <hagabaka> and that's only new code
[06:22] <athena> and SSA is ancient
[06:22] <hagabaka> those work for me
[06:23] <nullkuhl> guys, i have a laptop that has 2 speakers and a subwoofer in it,, am currently using the very default drivers of fiesty (alsa).. but when i play something , sound comes out of the speakers only and the subwoofer is not working at all .. plz HELP
[06:23] <athena> hagabaka, they work for me too. That's why I said it doesn't exactly take a lot of work to support them.
[06:23] <athena> so saying they're supported doesn't count for much
[06:23] <hagabaka> uhuh
[06:23] <Gerrit> Am I the only person who still uses xv?
[06:24] <athena> nullkuhl, tried turning your subwoofer's volume knob up?
[06:24] <hagabaka> so you claim a program sucks by devaluing everything it can do, and picking out everything it can't
[06:24] <athena> Gerrit, um, no? xv is the only way to play video,
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Gerrit,  i aint used it in ages.. it was a nice program.
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: all channels in kmix enabled and their volumes raised?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> you are refering to the xv image viewer program?
[06:24] <Gerrit> athena: to view images
[06:24] <athena> hagabaka, what the hell, are you some kind of advertiser/zealot? The point is it doesn't play SSA/ASS
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: you ARE old..
[06:24] <Gerrit> The xv image viewr
[06:24] <Gerrit> I am not old
[06:24] <athena> Gerrit, oh... lol
[06:24] <Gerrit> But it's fast
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[06:24] <Gerrit> It's faster than Image Magick
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Heh - xv sort of shot itself in the foot with its licensing. so out came a dozen+ replacements.
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: well, old to linux I mean
[06:25] <Dr_willis> wine irfanview.exe
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Yes
[06:25] <athena> lol, I actually tried using irfanview in wine... speaking of slow..
[06:25] <hagabaka> athena: i'm not a one-sided supporter for any alternative media player; i'm just critical of your tone
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i never notifed it being slow.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> It shows images...  what speed does it need. heh
[06:25] <damageDOne> Hi, If I'm not using a usbdisk but it won't eject because it says it's busy, what do I do?
[06:25] <athena> hagabaka, .....
[06:26] <nullkuhl> nosrednaekim: yea
[06:26] <athena> this isn't on topic anyway, but the point is that VLC has a bunch of usability flaws
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> damageDOne: do you have a window with it open?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> everything has usability flaws
[06:26] <damageDOne> No
[06:26] <athena> Dr_willis, "hello" has no usability flaws
[06:27] <Dr_willis> athena,  it would to a chinease speaker. :)
[06:27] <Gerrit> Apart from programs like Skype and Google Earth, xv is the only program that I couldn't install by apt-get install
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: right click on the mixer window and select channels. Make sure all channels in that list are enabled
[06:27] <Gerrit> Heh: "Note: if you're going to try compiling this on RedHat Linux 6, READ THIS FIRST.  You'll be glad you did."
[06:27] <athena> Dr_willis, ...
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Gerrit,  theres unofficial repos with googleearth and skype packages I thought.
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah it does... ever heard someone say "hello?" in a very mean tone? ;)
[06:27] <damageDOne> nosrednaekim: ... but I was in the drive in the CLI. I just backed out of it and now it works. Cheers
[06:28] <Gerrit> Dr_willis: Oh cool
[06:28] <nullkuhl> nosrednaekim: yes its all selected and enabled
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> damageDOne: k
[06:28] <Gerrit> I installed them already anyway
[06:28] <damageDOne> nosrednaekim: Had no idea that would happen.
[06:29] <jthomas> has anyone installed the newer LinuxMCE on Kubuntu 7.04?  any bugs?  is it difficult to set up?  can a net-boot PC be used to record TV shows?
[06:29] <athena> say, where's xv's homepage?
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: no clue then..... go to #alsa?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> jthomas,  i think that MCE thing is very much a work in progress. :) they may have an official channel .
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: no experience with LInuxMCE, but MythTV can do all those
[06:30] <jthomas> hmm i'll check into that, thanks Dr_willis
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Using MythTV here at the moment on my 2nd Ubuntu machine
[06:30] <jthomas> nosrednaekim: yes i think they're kinda the same code base, but not sure i guess
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: mythTV is pretty good, but it may not be easy to set up.
[06:45] <alex> jukato i stil havent fix the problem
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i find mythtv easy to set up.. now that i spent a lot of time learning it. :)
[06:45] <alex> do u remember me from yesterday?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> alex: its Jucato.
[06:47] <Jucato> O.o
[06:47] <alex> sr
[06:47] <Jucato> not quite. sorry... have a lot on my mind lately
[06:47] <Jucato> how can I help?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: he didn't desert.. he's back!
[06:47] <alex> do u rember my problem?
 not quite. sorry... have a lot on my mind lately
[06:48] <asaup> anyone using tovid here
[06:48] <athena> uh, nope
[06:49] <alex> can you remind where i have to write big scripts?
[06:49] <a-865> error opening/initializing the selected video_out device :-(
[06:49] <athena> asaup, I'm right here. Stop messaging me
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <athena> a-865, are you using the GUI? open the settings and under video, change the driver to xv.
[06:50] <daquino> where is the sources helper ... there was a url were you could add a bunch of sources and get a list
[06:50] <menencia> hi; can someone help me on commands about unzip a file to a specific destination?
[06:50] <a-865> athena: it was on mga :-p
[06:50] <athena> lol
[06:50] <athena> yeah, there's a bug about that actually
[06:51] <athena> menencia, sure
[06:51] <athena> "man unzip"
[06:52] <a-865> athena: changing it to xv didn't help
[06:52] <menencia> man unzip? what means?
[06:52] <menencia> xD
[06:52] <hackers> ya des franais?
[06:52] <menencia> oui
[06:52] <menencia> lol
[06:52] <hackers> doit pas y en avoir bcp XD
[06:52] <kharloss> hi, i have a problem  i have a sis900 pci Lan card, but isn`t recognized by my kubuntu. if i "lspci" output contain an entry "01:07.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Et                        hernet (rev 02)
[06:52] <kharloss> any solution ?
[06:52] <menencia> mouais..
[06:52] <alex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26142/
[06:52] <athena> a-865, do you still get "error initializing blah blah blah"?
[06:53] <a-865> athena: yes, exact same error
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> menencia: it gives you the manual page for unzip
[06:53] <athena> a-865, tried restarting mplayer? and if xv doesn't work, use x11
[06:53] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alex
[06:53] <ubotu> alex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: and ifconfig doesn't give you anything?
[06:53] <menencia> ok
[06:53] <kharloss> i have two network cards
[06:54] <kharloss> just one appear
[06:54] <a-865> athena: that worked :-)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> appears where?
[06:54] <kharloss> just eth0 is shown
[06:54] <daquino> help....
[06:54] <daquino> isn' there a source wizard ?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> source wizard?
[06:54] <athena> a-865, hehe, brief explanation of outputs. xv draws the video directly onto the screen, i.e. fast. x11 tells X to draw the video, i.e. slow. gl/gl2 uses openGL to draw the video, i.e. fast :-)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: and does if config show you two devices>
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[06:55] <kharloss> just eth0 and lo
[06:55] <a-865> athena: system has cheap old video card
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> try "ifconfig eth1 up"
[06:55] <athena> a-865, ah, it might not support xv then
[06:55] <daquino> thank you!
[06:55] <athena> is it one of those no-name ones?
[06:55] <kharloss> ifconfig eth1 up
[06:55] <kharloss> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> xv is faster than GL though
[06:56] <athena> nosrednaekim, not in all situations
[06:56] <athena> if you need to transform the video, GL is faster.
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: but that command didn't return an error?
[06:56] <a-865> athena: 10 year old rage pro agp
[06:56] <kharloss> what command ?
[06:56] <athena> a-865, oh, that should actually have xv, but if x11 works, oh well :-)
[06:57] <alex> stil nothink
[06:57] <kharloss> ifconfig eth1 up ?   return "eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: ok, well... hmmm.
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: search google for that chip and linux
[06:57] <alex> it shows the same problem
[06:57] <a-865> athena: 11 year old kid's puter anyway
[06:57] <athena> hehe
[06:58] <Dr_willis> sounds like the module for the other nic isent loaded
[06:58] <a-865> athena: only reason I installed feisty was could figure out how to get sound to work with normal user instead of just root after pulling ISA sound card and installing PCI sound card
[06:59] <athena> a-865, ah
[06:59] <a-865> athena: only reason I installed feisty was I could'nt figure out in breezy how to get sound to work with normal user instead of just root after pulling ISA sound card and installing PCI sound card
[06:59] <athena> uh.... don't repeat. Especially something that long.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> he fixed a typo. :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> so it MADE sence! :)
[06:59] <athena> haha
[06:59] <a-865> major typo :-p
[07:03] <balaji> my speakers dont appear to blow in full volume what should i do to customize them?
[07:03] <athena> balaji, um, use the volume control?
[07:03] <frojnd> does Bluez works with 2.0 adapteres?
[07:03] <athena> also, that's not good for your ears..
[07:04] <dhq> i have infrared on my pc which module do i use
[07:04] <balaji> athena its not that simple
[07:04] <balaji> i mean i am not getting the right performance
[07:04] <athena> balaji, try using alsamixer to tweak it some more then
[07:05] <balaji> got it thanks
[07:05] <frojnd> anyone?
[07:05] <beardbar> after i installed i changed my xorg.conf file, now i get a blank screen, so i popped in my kubuntu disk to boot in to safe mode so i can restore my backup, but no dice, it just sticks at loading when i select any option from the boot loader.
[07:07] <tristan_> Hey, could anynody tell me how to enable scanning on my lexmark x1270 printer
[07:11] <tgrotan> c
[07:11] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:12] <_Shade_> how can i change the kdm login theme?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> !kdm
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <r3d5h1ft> System Settings -> Login manager
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm theres a tool that can change the KDM theme.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> not sure its installed by defaut
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !find kdmtheme
[07:14] <ubotu> Found: kdmtheme
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !info kdmtheme
[07:14] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB
[07:14] <a-865> _Shade_: did u try in kdmrc to set UseTheme=No?
[07:15] <daquino> can kaffien play ms media player  formats ?
[07:15] <_Shade_> a-865: no i didn't...should I?
[07:15] <a-865> _Shade_: try it first, it's my fav
[07:15] <a-865> looks just like KDE :)
[07:16] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: that's it, thanks
[07:16] <_Shade_> a-865: but i don't want to disable it :)
[07:16] <a-865> _Shade_: I'll be u don't even know what the default KDE theme looks like
[07:16] <a-865> _Shade_: that's how u find out
[07:17] <a-865> _Shade_: the distro's default theme makes KDM look like GDM
[07:17] <bene> where are the apt repositories located?
[07:18] <athena> bene, archive.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <bene> on the file system
[07:18] <bene> the list
[07:18] <NaAzZ> question : its possible to write on windows partition with livecd ??  i tryed , but cant ( sry for english )
[07:21] <daquino> what is the kubuntu-desktop package ?
[07:21] <NaAzZ> last
[07:21] <NaAzZ> but i try to write on ntfs part
[07:21] <NaAzZ> without succes
[07:21] <daquino> i just installed mplayer and this thing removed kde and kubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <menencia> another probleme : no sound under kunbuntu T_T
[07:22] <alex> jucato can you help me?
[07:23] <tema> 3263+2+6666666666666666+6+82+2+92+2+92+
[07:24] <crowbar> daquino: kubuntu-desktop is a "meta" package.  It only contains references to other packages.   You only need it when upgrade to a new release.  Your system will continue to function normally without it.
[07:25] <daquino> crowbar:  but why is kde and kde-core not installed now ?
[07:27] <a-865> I can now play mp3 and mpeg with mplayer, but nothing wants to open a music CD :(
[07:27] <daquino> crowbar:  how could kde possiblly show up as not installed in the list
[07:27] <crowbar> daquino: those aren't installed for me either and i have kubuntu-desktop installed.
[07:27] <blekos> is there a way to use aptitude install for multiple packages eg. firestarter, superkaramba etc?
[07:28] <daquino> crowbar:  so where does kde come from ?
[07:28] <crowbar> daquino: kdebase
[07:28] <a-865> konq sees that it is a music CD, but won't show any files on it
[07:29] <BluesKaj> a-865, have you tried amarok ?
[07:29] <a-865> BluesKaj: I removed kaffeine and amarok in order to have mplayer do everything
[07:30] <BluesKaj> amarok runs circles around mplayer when it comes to music
[07:30] <frojnd> does anyone here know if BLUEZ stack works with USB 2.0 adapters ????
[07:31] <a-865> eventually something ejects the music CD after nothing opens it :(
[07:33] <a-865> I guess I'll just have to tell the kid to use windoz when she wants to play music :(
[07:33] <BluesKaj> why would you reject amarok in favour or mplayer ...I'm not telling what you should do , but I'm just curious ?
[07:33] <a-865> Windoz Media player plays everything simply and easily, which is what I would expect of something named MPlayer on Linux
[07:33] <BluesKaj> in favour of mplayer
[07:34] <BluesKaj> a-865, wrong
[07:34] <daquino> you can play any music file now i think in linux
[07:35] <a-865> I can now play mp3 and mpeg with mplayer, but nothing wants to open a music CD :(
[07:35] <a-865> really dumb
[07:35] <daquino> wtf are you talking about
[07:35] <llutz> a-865: you better use win, but u can try mplayer cdda://
[07:35] <dthacker> a-865: kscd
[07:36] <daquino> of course you can play a music scd
[07:36] <a-865> dthacker: there is no kscd in my kde menus
[07:37] <a-865> Windoz Media Player is smart enuf to play a music CD. Why isn't MPlayer smart enuf to play a music CD?
[07:38] <dthacker> a-865: pop open adept and pull it down.   bbl
[07:38] <llutz> a-865: why don't you stopp asking stupid questions? join the mplayer-team and help to improve it
[07:38] <BluesKaj> amarok will play cds ... a-865,  who told you mplayer was the only player to use with windows media ?...cuz whoever told you that or if it's an asumption on your part , it's wrong
[07:38] <a-865> BluesKaj: All I know is WMP will play music CDs
[07:39] <a-865> simplicity for the kid - one player for all standard media is a not unrealistic expectation
[07:39] <BluesKaj> a-865, welcome to linux where youcanuse up 10 differnt players if you want, not just one
[07:39] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't feed the troll, it's not worse
[07:39] <llutz> worth
[07:40] <a-865> fine - let everybody else use 10 tons of software to do 3 jobs
[07:40] <a-865> I'm not trolling
[07:40] <BluesKaj> windows is not std media
[07:40] <a-865> I'd like to know how linux can have come so far and still be so near impossible to use. I've been 15 hours on this install just because of a sound card.
[07:41] <athena> a-865, we trolling? what's the issue?
[07:41] <BluesKaj> a-865, you are ignoring perfectly good advice with inane answers
[07:41] <joseph> can anyone help me ?
[07:41] <athena> !ask | joseph
[07:41] <ubotu> joseph: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <joseph> im triying to set up a samba network
[07:41] <a-865> I read somewhere that upgrading *buntu 2 versions was not recommended, so did a fresh install instead of an upgrade
[07:42] <joseph> and when i try to connect to my pc it says error : sucess
[07:42] <athena> a-865, cmon, let's all be friends. What's your question?
[07:42] <a-865> athena: can or cannot mplayer play a music CD?
[07:42] <llutz> a-865: once more (last time): mplayer cdda://
[07:42] <athena> a-865, it can. As far as I know at least.
[07:43] <athena> mplayer cdda://<device> I think. Maybe even mplayer /dev/cdrom
[07:43] <a-865> athena: well I have mplayer playing mp3 and mpeg files, but nothing wants to open a music CD
[07:43] <BluesKaj> llutz, yer right ...it actually sounds like a bot answering , not a troll.... a broken record ,we used to call it  :)
[07:43] <daquino> where would i setup the hotkeys ?
[07:43] <athena> a-865, forget it. We've already given you the answer....
[07:43] <joseph> how do i setup NFS on kubuntu ?
[07:43] <llutz> BluesKaj: 400GB space for ignore-files :)
[07:43] <athena> !nfs | joseph
[07:44] <ubotu> joseph: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:44] <r3d5h1ft> I continue to have problems with Azureus under Feisty. I can get the splash screen every time; after that, however, the application window shows up for maybe 2 seconds, then disappears forever.
[07:44] <joseph> !nfs
[07:44] <a-865> mplayer /dev/cdrom; playing /dev/cdrom; seek failed; exiting (end of file)
[07:44] <BluesKaj> llutz, I think i might turn the ignore switch on ... i don't like doing it but i get the feeling it'
[07:45] <BluesKaj>  it's almost time
[07:45] <athena> a-865, what about mplayer cdda:// ?
[07:45] <athena> BluesKaj, ignoring people isn't good. Then you get interesting conversation gaps.
[07:45] <llutz> athena: forget it, he ignores all answers and keeps trolling
[07:45] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: shutdown azureus, delete all files in ~/.azureus/logs
[07:45] <BluesKaj> hehe ..well athena your patience is certainly remarkable :)
[07:45] <a-865> athena: that sorta worked briefly, then the CD ejected
[07:46] <r3d5h1ft> groovy, i'll try that
[07:46] <athena> huh..
[07:46] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: works for me atleast :)
[07:46] <athena> you sure your CD drive isn't broken? but it's lunch break for me, so I'm out
[07:46] <a-865> athena: same CD drive I installed feisty from
[07:47] <Assid> nfs rocks
[07:47] <a-865> BluesKaj: your advice seems to be install 10 apps to do 3 jobs
[07:48] <daquino> i turned off the device desktop feature and devices still show up
[07:49] <BluesKaj> err, my advice is there are many options...why restrict yourself to just one that is actually meant for video, and then complain about it :)
[07:50] <a-865> BluesKaj: why should a child need more than one media player?
[07:50] <a-865> BluesKaj: is there  no Linux media player that will do the 3 majors - mp3, mpeg, music CD?
[07:50] <r3d5h1ft> Hmm, still having trouble with azureus... Deleting the logs helped, but it still vanished (after about 30 seconds this time).
[07:50] <joseph> how do i fix the error sucess when triying to share files between my xbox and computer ?
[07:51] <n8k99_> a-865: try installing restricted codecs- then use any player
[07:52] <BluesKaj> a-865, do listen to the radio thru yer tv ?
[07:52] <n8k99_> a-865 do you read the newspaper with your toaster
[07:52] <a-865> BluesKaj: my only radio is satellite - same speakers as TV
[07:52] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: whats the error youre getting?
[07:53] <r3d5h1ft> no error message... the azureus windows just "goes away" after a short period of time
[07:53] <a-865> n8k99_: my toaster over makes all kinds of food - it isn't picky
[07:53] <a-865> n8k99_: my toaster oven makes all kinds of food - it isn't picky
[07:54] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: try starting it from a console
[07:54] <n8k99_> yet it does not make newspapers more readable
[07:54] <flami> Hi , i just installed my printer and the cups testpage is perfect , however if i print something in KDE ( tried kghostview , firefox , OO ) the "image" is set too far to the to right , so im missing parts. anyway i can correct that ?
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: how would one do that?
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> sudo start azureus?
[07:54] <a-865> n8k99_: my car takes me where I want to go - it isn't picky about where I want to go
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> (i'm obviously new here)
[07:55] <r3d5h1ft> haha
[07:55] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: no, just type azureus, it should be in your path
[07:55] <r3d5h1ft> alright, i can do that
[07:55] <joseph> how do i enable beryl ??
[07:55] <BluesKaj> ic , so sat radio is it ,no other options ... interesting pov , a-865
[07:55] <a-865> n8k99_: my web browser takes me where I want to go - it isn't picky about whether the site is crap from M$ Front Page or made by someone who knows how to build a standards compliant site
[07:55] <n8k99_> a-865: the toaster oven and the car have different functions- just like teh video player and teh audio player
[07:56] <flami> seems as if KDE ignores margins
[07:56] <n8k99_> a-865: carry thhis discussion over into #kubuntu-offtopic if you like
[07:56] <a-865> my TV doesn't car if the source is satellite or cabul or DSL or DVD player
[07:57] <a-865> it seems my real problem is feisty doesn't like my CD ROM drive
[07:57] <DarthFrog> Ribbet!
[07:57] <a-865> breezy didn't seem to have a problem with it
[07:57] <r3d5h1ft> okay, i'm getting two errors from X (BadDevice, invalid input device 169)
[07:57] <r3d5h1ft> but they show up during the splash screen phase
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> then nothing comes up when the window disappears
[07:58] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: hmm, perhaps you have to enable debugging, let me check
[07:58] <joseph> how can i enable beryl with kubuntu ?
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> wait, those errors aren't specific to azureus
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> i get them when opening kate too
[07:58] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: i know
[07:59] <DarthFrog> Can anyone tell me how to force Kmail to use Kwallet?  Yesterday, Kmail launched and asked for a password to open Kwallet.  I didn't want to do a mail run (wanted to upgrade to Feisty), so I cancelled.  Now, it doesn't use Kwallet anymore, asks for individual passwords for each account.
[07:59] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: those are due to x not finding a drawing board, which ubuntu is configured to, (i think) :)
[08:01] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: i just noticed that a .log file was created when i tried to open it again
[08:01] <r3d5h1ft> in ~/.azureus
[08:01] <a-865> n8k99_: apt-get install restricted codecs; E: Couldn't find package restricted-codecs
[08:01] <joseph> how do i enable beryl ?
[08:01] <n8k99_> !codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <vonderer> hi there. %)
[08:02] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: yeah, those are created upon start
[08:02] <vonderer> I've got a stupid problem %)
[08:02] <vonderer> I seem to be unable to remember the name of a system monitor I once used %)
[08:02] <crdlb> !beryl | joseph
[08:02] <ubotu> joseph: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled:
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM.
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Unexpected Signal : 4 occurred at PC=0x0
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Function=[Unknown.] 
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Library=(N/A)
[08:03] <r3d5h1ft> oops, that should have been in one line
[08:03] <r3d5h1ft> sorry
[08:03] <a-865> n8k99_: I was there b4 I came here
[08:03] <a-865> n8k99_: it said install lib* and *cod* so that's what I did
[08:03] <n8k99_> so did you install the restricted codecs by following those directions?
[08:04] <athena> vonderer, conky? gkrellm?
[08:05] <vonderer> athena, conky works from the terminal?
[08:05] <n8k99_> a-865: so can you play mp3 yet?
[08:05] <athena> vonderer, oh? so I guess it's not conky then
[08:06] <vonderer> athena, thanks a lot. :) Going to check this out :)
[08:06] <vonderer> yeah, that one :)
[08:06] <vonderer> good bye
[08:06] <a-865> n8k99_: AFAIK, but there were a lot of installs and a lot of directions and I don't remember the whole sequence, nor even a significant portion thereof. If I knew how to get apt-let to list installed packages the way rpm does than I could find out if restricted codecs are already installed. As I've already said several times here, mplayer is succesfully playing mp3 and mpeg files, but not...
[08:07] <a-865> ...playing a music CD. Fiesty apparently does not like my CD drive.
[08:07] <morph_> hello all
[08:07] <n8k99_> a-865 try another application
[08:07] <n8k99_> a-865 just perhaps its not feisty but mplayer
[08:07] <a-865> n8k99_:  in order to install feisty I had to use ide=nodma and irqpoll
[08:07] <morph_> wow just got beryl and kiba dock working
[08:08] <morph_> looks awesome
[08:08] <a-865> n8k99_: I had to hdparm -d0 /dev/hdd
[08:08] <a-865> n8k99_: without that the whole desktop freezes up
[08:08] <steffen> i have installed apache2,php and mysql and then restarted my computer. but i cant see the website. help?
[08:09] <th1> Hi, in Kubuntu 7.04 I have set up a wireless ethernet connection with KNetworkManager. but it asks for the Wallet password each time I log in. Is it possible to set it up "system wide" so it doesn't prompt, and also so it connects to the network before I log in?
[08:09] <n8k99_> a-865: ok- not sure of what relevance that has to playing your cd
[08:09] <n8k99_> a-865: if you do then i'm not who you want to talk to
[08:09] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: i guess i have no clue. you might try downloading the latest azureus from their site, i think they might have fixed this bug. Atleast the "log" bug
[08:09] <morph_> having a problem when booting up
[08:10] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: thanks a lot, i'll do just that
[08:10] <Ze_M> ?
[08:10] <morph_> says kinit trying to resume from
[08:10] <Ze_M> whats the bit name
[08:10] <Ze_M> bot*
[08:11] <morph_> then it says No resume images, doing normal boot
[08:11] <morph_> hangs there for a bit,  anyone know hwy?
[08:11] <morph_> why
[08:11] <Ze_M> whats the bot name?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> !kinit
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <BluesKaj> !init
[08:13] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:16] <waltercool> Hi there... someone know how open real videos?
[08:17] <Blissex> waltercool: look for the prioritary/binary formats page on the Wiki
[08:17] <Ze_M> !ssh
[08:17] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:18] <waltercool> Blissex: seeking...
[08:19] <waltercool> Blissex: I have propietary drivers..., but i have a lib problem with xine
[08:19] <BluesKaj> waltercool, you could DL and install real player for linux,  http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&am
[08:20] <waltercool> BluesKaj: But works me too slow
[08:20] <waltercool> BluesKaj: Appear be a gnome app
[08:21] <BluesKaj> no it's for kde and gnome
[08:21] <flami> im trying to change the margins of my printer , they are 0 , and i cant seem to change them, when i change them the values are not saved , when i print a cups testpage its perfect , when i something in KDE its in the top right border ( and missing stuff )
[08:22] <waltercool> BluesKaj: I have installed RealPlayer10 Gold... but videos have a 5 seconds of frameskip :S (very slow)
[08:23] <Blissex> waltercool: look at whether your X video driver supports Xvideo.
[08:23] <waltercool> Blissex: Where i can see that?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> waltercool, what aboutvideos other than realmedia ?
[08:24] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg too, xine-extracodecs
[08:24] <fusiogen> yo les frenchy
[08:24] <fusiogen> !fr
[08:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:24] <waltercool> BluesKaj: I have it... and dont works
[08:25] <BluesKaj> waltercool, what about dvd ?
[08:25] <waltercool> dvd?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> do dvds play ?
[08:25] <waltercool> yes
[08:28] <daquino> whats backports ?
[08:28] <waltercool> is rarely... because i have direct accel
[08:30] <Quack> how can i get drivers for my 9600xt ati card ?
[08:31] <arkaikon> mmm i have problems with teh same card
[08:31] <Quack> just doesnt work ?
[08:32] <arkaikon> in 3 years i never have 3d aceleration on linux
[08:32] <arkaikon> red hat, suse 10.2, ubuntu 6.10, kubuntu 7.06 ubuntu 7.10
[08:33] <BluesKaj> ok gents with ATI cards, check this out : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[08:33] <arkaikon> but i dont search modes to run it in 1 year.... maybe now yes can run it
[08:33] <waltercool> i have direct rendering... (fglrx)
[08:34] <hdwow> Hi. The vlc firefox plugin just crashed and did something to my firefox profile that means KDE's "Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications" no longer affects firefox's menu fonts. It did before. What could have happened? Thanks.
[08:34] <BluesKaj> arkaikon, the above tutorial give 3D on feisty , run google earh etc to your heart's content :)
[08:35] <Jabapyth> how do I access a printer through samba?
[08:36] <Ze_M> if im ssh in remote host, to copy a file from remote to local host i would have to run: scp file <my_ip>:/home/user    correct?
[08:37] <Gerrit> How can I get a list of installed packages by install date?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> Jabapyth, sys/settings/printers/add printer/ ...the printer wizard will pop up ..samba runs the cups app for printing
[08:38] <Jabapyth> BluesKaj: is that a file path? (sys/settings...)
[08:38] <BluesKaj> hdwow, the vlc plugin is buggy on feisty ... my experience told me to dump the plugin , but keep the player
[08:38] <athena> BluesKaj, that howto is ridiculously out of date
[08:39] <athena> and yes, the VLC browser plugin is not for general video playback, use mplayer-plugin instead
[08:39] <BluesKaj> err athena ...it works
[08:39] <hdwow> BluesKaj: yes, i've uninstalled the plugin, and am now looking to fix the damage it caused.
[08:40] <BluesKaj> hdwow, perhaps a relogin or reboot ?
[08:40] <athena> BluesKaj, actually, it won't work since it's missing the step where you link /lib/blah/volatile/fglrx.ko with /lib/blah/misc/fglrx.ko
[08:40] <hdwow> ok, i was hoping it wouldn't come to that, but i'll try.
[08:40] <athena> hdwow, the damage? vlc plugin is 1 file with no permanent settings...
[08:40] <BluesKaj> that's odd athena , since it solved my #D and DRI prob :)
[08:41] <BluesKaj> 3D
[08:41] <athena> guides like that have never worked for me, go figure :-
[08:41] <athena> I'm just using the free driver, since fglrx permanently broke for me when I tried to enable dual head
[08:42] <coreymon77> gi guys
[08:42] <coreymon77> hi*
[08:42] <Jabapyth> BluesKaj, how do I get to add printer?
[08:42] <coreymon77> i updated my nvidia dirvers with the restricted manager
[08:42] <coreymon77> and ever since i did, hibernate stopped working
[08:42] <coreymon77> how can i change it back
[08:42] <athena> coreymon77, uh... by downgrading?
[08:42] <hdwow> success! thank you, a relogin worked!
[08:42] <coreymon77> bw\how?
[08:42] <athena> or just disable hibernate, it's useless anyway
[08:43] <coreymon77> not for me
[08:43] <coreymon77> i like it
[08:43] <athena> coreymon77, force a package version using adept/apt-get/synaptic
[08:43] <coreymon77> cant i jsut reset it
[08:43] <coreymon77> i had the default driver before
[08:43] <athena> .......
[08:43] <coreymon77> cant i just reset it?
[08:44] <athena> what does that even mean?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> athena, I didn't use the tutorial's xorg.conf file ... but i did a side by side and edited what made sense for my setup
[08:44] <coreymon77> athena, reset the driver back to default
[08:44] <Gerrit> How can I find when a package was installed with dpkg/adept/apt-get/synaptic?
[08:44] <Assid> err. is there a jigdo image for kubuntu CD ?
[08:44] <athena> BluesKaj, every time I followed one of those, the fglrx kernel module wouldn't load... and then DRI wouldn't work because of that
[08:45] <BluesKaj> bummer athena , what card ?
[08:45] <athena> coreymon77, ...didn't you just say you installed a new version? that means you have to downgrade using the package manager...........
[08:45] <athena> X300
[08:46] <dromer> hi all, somehow I can't get nvidia-settings to twinview to my 2nd monitor. It definetly sees the monitor and it's type/settings, but when I extend, or do cinerama, it does nothing. when I put the monitor to another port it works
[08:46] <Assid> whats the alternate install cd for ?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> wow, and mine's an elcheapo onboars X200G ... like you say , go figure, athena :(
[08:46] <athena> Assid, proper installation
[08:46] <Assid> and whats the desktop cd then ?
[08:47] <athena> for testing and fixing b0rk3d systems?
[08:47] <Assid> eh ? so i need the alternate one ?
[08:47] <athena> well no, you can use the desktop to install too, but the alternate is a better choice
[08:47] <athena> especially if you need custom mount points or you have low RAM
[08:48] <Assid> okay.. so good..
[08:49] <Assid> now i can use the dvd image i downloiaded before
[08:49] <athena> was that a question?
[08:49] <Assid> nah
[08:49] <coreymon77> athena: do, how do i revert back to waht i was
[08:49] <coreymon77> athena: i was probably using the nvidia or the nonfree thing
[08:50] <Assid> i had downloaded the dVD image of kubuntu.. but my lappy doesnt have a dvd rom.. so now i was gonna sit and dl the cd version.. but i didnt know whether i need the alternate or desktop
[08:50] <Assid> which is why i was soo confused
[08:50] <Assid> i asked earlier.. but no one responded.. so its been downloading ever since
[08:50] <athena> hehe
[08:50] <coreymon77> Assid: do you have atleast 256mb of ram
[08:50] <coreymon77> ?
[08:50] <athena> coreymon77, we already figured it out, but thanks
[08:50] <coreymon77> oh
[08:51] <athena> coreymon77, so, maybe I'm misunderstanding your question. What was your system like before the b0rk4ge happened? and what's it like now?
[08:51] <Assid> yeah.. the machine im going to instrall it on.. yes.. it has 768MB
[08:51] <athena> as a side note, the alternate starts up faster :-P
[08:51] <Assid> so the desktop disc is just a live cd ?
[08:51] <athena> yeah, with an installer tacked on
[08:51] <snake> i do not have the admin button in kde theme manager in feisty. can anyone help me with this ? its so strange
[08:52] <Assid> how come there is no jigdo for that ?
[08:52] <athena> no idea, I don't use jigdo
[08:52] <athena> wget's fast enough for me :-P
[08:52] <coreymon77> athena: before hand i was just using the normal, basic nvidia driver provided by kubuntu, recently i used restricted-manager to install the actual nvidia binary driver
[08:52] <Rami> hi
[08:52] <Rami> i need help
[08:52] <athena> coreymon77, so, you want to go back to the unaccelerated one, right?
[08:52] <coreymon77> athena: i want to switch back to the way it was before
[08:52] <snake> i do not have the admin button in kde theme manager in feisty. can anyone help me with this ? its so strange
[08:53] <athena> just uncheck "proprietary nvidia driver" or whatever in the restricted manager
[08:53] <coreymon77> oaky
[08:53] <athena> !repeat | snake
[08:53] <ubotu> snake: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:53] <Rami> I installed kubuntu but KDE isnt running:(
[08:53] <Rami> only GNOME
[08:53] <athena> Rami, eh? you have to choose KDE at the login screen
[08:53] <athena> hit the "change session" button
[08:53] <Rami> ok,,,,
[08:53] <Rami> i'm logging out again then
[08:54] <BluesKaj> Rami, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <athena> BluesKaj, he already has KDE, try reading first? :-P
[08:54] <BluesKaj> athena, FYI , the fglrx driver in that tutorial is a modded and patched to work with ATI cards on feisty ... I really think you should give it a chance.
[08:55] <Rami_> I appreciate your help
[08:55] <athena> BluesKaj, modded or not, that howto does not mention a symlink to fix driver not found issues so I don't trust it
[08:55] <athena> besides, I'm tired of fglrx's shit
[08:55] <BluesKaj> ok , fine athena , have it your way
[08:55] <rathel> What is Konqueror using to play embeded WMV files, and how do I get that in Firefox? I've tried both the VLC and Kaffeine plugin for firefox, and they won't play.
[08:55] <Rami_> ty athena!
[08:56] <BluesKaj> Rami, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <athena> rajib__, Konqueror is probably using kaffiene, which uses Xine.
[08:56] <athena> rathel, ^^ *
[08:56] <athena> rathel, use the mplayer plugin... apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:56] <Rami_> no, i fixed it now
[08:57] <Rami_> thanks anyway
[08:57] <rathel> athena: Okay thanks I'll try that.
[08:57] <athena> oh yeah, you should grab w32codecs if you don't have it
[08:57] <athena> back to movie.... but send me a message if you actually need me
[08:58] <blekos> amarok doesnt play mp3 could u help me
[08:59] <BluesKaj> blekos, xine-extracodecs
[08:59] <athena> blekos, apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs
[08:59] <blekos> ok thnx
[08:59] <athena> or apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg if you're on feisty
[09:00] <Rami_> how can i make 4 desktops?
[09:00] <BluesKaj> ok bbl
[09:00] <athena> Rami_, explain
[09:00] <Rami_> not really the GNOME way
[09:00] <Rami_> but you know where ther stand 1 and 2
[09:01] <athena> Rami_, ok.. you want more workspaces right? in GNOME or in KDE?
[09:01] <blekos> E: Couldn't find package libxine1-extracodecs
[09:01] <Rami_> in KDE
[09:01] <athena> !repository | blekos
[09:01] <ubotu> blekos: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:01] <athena> you need to enable some extra repositories
[09:01] <sharir> what mail prog to use in kubuntu ?
[09:01] <athena> Rami_, shouldn't there already be 4? in the pager somewhere in the bottom-right corner?
[09:01] <Rami_> nope!
[09:02] <Rami_> only 1 and 2
[09:02] <athena> can you right click it and change that? I don't use KDE, sorry :-\
[09:02] <Rami_> aah i dont care...
[09:03] <waylandbill> you should be able to right click just about anything anywhere. That's one of the standardized things with a kde based app.
[09:04] <justin123558> I have a dumb question about Amarok.  I switched to the mini player window and I have no clue how to get back to the regular window.  Anyone that can help?
[09:05] <athena> justin123558, hit the playlist button
[09:06] <justin123558> Wow, athena, now I truly feel like a tard.
[09:06] <justin123558> Thank you much for your assistance
[09:06] <athena> nah, that confused me too :-P
[09:07] <justin123558> Have a nice day.
[09:07] <sharir> do you know if yahoo work with kmail or evolution ?
[09:07] <sharir> which one is beetter for home office as mail program?
[09:07] <athena> sharir, no. Unless you have that premium thingy.
[09:08] <sharir> like mail plus ?
[09:08] <athena> because that webmail crap won't let you download messages over POP/IMAP
[09:08] <athena> sharir, yes, mail "plus"
[09:08] <philipp__> hi
[09:08] <sharir> no i dont have it
[09:09] <sharir> it even not working so good with firefox
[09:09] <sharir> and thunderbird ?
[09:10] <waylandbill> sharir: you could get gmail account and forward the yahoo mail to it and then you'd have POP access, or just use gmail directly.
[09:11] <frederick_> hi
[09:11] <waylandbill> sharir: or any other free service that has pop access of course.
[09:12] <frederick_> does anyone know how to switch the nicklist in konversation to alphabetical order?
[09:12] <frederick_> plz
[09:12] <blekos> does anybody know how to train spamassin?
[09:12] <blekos> is this done automaticaly from kmail ?
[09:13] <waylandbill> frederick: settings,  configure konversation, nickname list.
[09:13] <frederick_> oh ic, found it
[09:13] <waylandbill> blekos: after you configure kmail to use spamassasin, you can mark as spam or not spam in kmail and it should teach spamassasin
[09:13] <frederick_> thx waylandbill
[09:14] <sharir> so better to move to google mail
[09:14] <blekos> ok
[09:14] <sharir> and is there any diffrent between evolution kmail and thunderbird ?
[09:14] <blekos> thnx
[09:14] <waylandbill> sharir: they all have pro
[09:14] <waylandbill> s and cons.
[09:15] <waylandbill> sharir: they are basically an email client. You'll have to decide what you like best. I use thunderbird because it handles junk mail and openpgp very good.
[09:16] <tresko22> Hi! Is it possible to get Ark to extract directly "here" and not trough /tmp?
[09:17] <tresko22> seems like waste of time automagicaly moving the files around...
[09:21] <massimo> tfukyfy
[09:21] <massimo> funziona?
[09:28] <stan_> has anyone had a similar problem?
[09:28] <crdlb> stan_, you might want to wait a few minutes
[09:28] <stan_> :)
[09:29] <stan_> ok
[09:29] <coreymon77> wow
[09:29] <coreymon77> netsplit>
[09:29] <coreymon77> ?
[09:30] <crdlb> yep
[09:30] <BluesKaj> splittseville
[09:30] <cadkins> Was wondering the best way to upgrade from Edgy to Fiesty?  Update Manager?  Last time I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, I ended up having to do a fresh install.  Would love to avoid this again. :(
[09:32] <daquino> why dont i have mkmf ?
[09:33] <crimsun> it was removed as part of the X.Org modular transition/sync/merge with Debian a long time ago.
[09:33] <daquino> what ?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> cadkins, change the debs in your sources.list from edgy to feisy then , sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[09:34] <BluesKaj> err feisty
[09:34] <BloodyTux> you guys getting spammed too?
[09:34] <coreymon77> with what
[09:34] <coreymon77> prono sites?
[09:34] <coreymon77> yup
[09:34] <Kjellviz> nope
[09:34] <athena> yeah, spam? where?
[09:34] <yknott> cadkins: or dist-upgrade
[09:35] <BluesKaj> splitsville
[09:35] <coreymon77> pm spam
[09:35] <cadkins> BluesKaj : ok.  That's the way I did it last time and I had to do a fresh install as some things were missing
[09:35] <Telemako> I need help installing from cvs, it looks like not updating >,<
[09:35] <BloodyTux> the ubuntu channel is getting spam joined...
[09:35] <BloodyTux> >.<
[09:35] <coreymon77> oh
[09:35] <coreymon77> thats because of a netsplit
[09:35] <Telemako> can anyone help me installing from cvs ?
[09:36] <BloodyTux> !netsplit
[09:36] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:36] <Kjellviz> are there any alternative to Beryl when it comes to desktop effects ?
[09:36] <Arwen> Kjellviz, yes. Beryl is dead. Use compiz.
[09:36] <Kjellviz> Arwen: aint that potato potato ?
[09:36] <Arwen> ?
[09:36] <Minataku> Huh, I see no spam
[09:36] <Kjellviz> Arwen: they joined forces and are the same
[09:36] <BluesKaj> cadkins, well afresh install is always the cleanest , but now that feisty is relatively mature and stable it should work fairly well ...you may have to tweak here there of course
[09:36] <Kjellviz> what i heard at least
[09:36] <Arwen> Kjellviz, ...same thing
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ye
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ok let me rephrase
[09:37] <Arwen> if you want to try KDE 4, kwin 4 has 3-d effects too
[09:37] <Minataku> And I disabled the unregistered user restriction
[09:37] <Kjellviz> are there any alternative to beryl/compiz
[09:37] <Minataku> KDE4 is nowhere near practical use status
[09:37] <cadkins> BluesKaj : gotcha.  Make sure to do those backups at any rate ;)
[09:37] <Arwen> Kjellviz, yes. kwin4. But it's not done yet.
[09:37] <BluesKaj> Minataku, uhoh
[09:37] <BluesKaj> yeps cadkins :)
[09:37] <Minataku> It's still early in development
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ok, not done prob means it exceeds my knowledge
[09:38] <Kjellviz> ><
[09:38] <Arwen> I think there's project looking glass too
[09:38] <mneptok> Arwen: that's a different DE. and far from finished.
[09:38] <Minataku> The use of KDE4 in a production or desktop environment is not recommended at this time.
[09:38] <Arwen> mneptok, he just asked if they existed...
[09:38] <Arwen> not if they were good choices
[09:39] <Minataku> Arwen: Typically when one asks for such, they want ones that ARE good choices
[09:39] <Minataku> Think before being an asshole :P
[09:39] <Kjellviz> ^^
[09:39] <Kjellviz> im with Minataku on that one :P
[09:39] <Arwen> hey, I said they weren't done yet...
[09:39] <mneptok> Arwen: but PJL is not a compistor. it's a different environment.
[09:39] <mneptok> +o
[09:40] <Arwen> oh? my apologies
[09:40] <Kjellviz> project looking glass you say ?
[09:40] <Kjellviz> its a KDE alternativ rather than beryl alternative ?
[09:40] <Arwen> yeah, some kind of Java 3d desktop.
[09:40] <Kjellviz> hmmkk
[09:40] <mneptok> Kjellviz: yes. and far from feature complete.
[09:40] <Minataku> Java. That's enough to make you run away right there.
[09:41] <cadkins> so what happened with Beryl?  Seemed like it was doing well.
[09:41] <mneptok> and 100% Java
[09:41] <Arwen> cadkins, it's now part of Compiz.
[09:41] <Arwen> /j #opencompositing
[09:41] <cadkins> oooooooo...........ok.  I think the only thing I use on Beryl is the cube thing anyway :)  Very productive tool
[09:42] <Kjellviz> well basically
[09:42] <Kjellviz> im just looking for wobbly windows
[09:42] <Minataku> Arwen: Sorry to "attack" like that, it's just hot in here and I'm grumpy X3
[09:42] <Kjellviz> and maybe scroll at end of screen to swap desktop
[09:42] <Minataku> Kjellviz: Stick an electric toothbrush in your mouth
[09:42] <Minataku> The whole SCREEN will be wobbly
[09:42] <BluesKaj> beryl is a 4 letter word to us ATI users ...it's only window dressing anyway
[09:42] <Minataku> :D
[09:42] <cadkins> Is Compiz more stable than Beryl.  My Beryl crashed all the time or just took forever to start up
[09:42] <Kjellviz> are there any alternatives to beryl that ARE infact usable
[09:42] <Minataku> ATI is a 4 letter word to all of us here
[09:43] <cugel> compiz is supposed to be more stable.
[09:43] <BluesKaj> hehe Minataku
[09:43] <cadkins> hmmm, looks the same :)
[09:44] <BluesKaj> the operative word there cugel is "supposed"
[09:44] <mneptok> ATI actually is a four lettel word, but the last letter has to be protected as a trade secret.
[09:44] <BluesKaj> watchjout for the offtopic police ...they're lurking
[09:44] <Arwen> compiz *is* beryl... sheesh
[09:44] <mneptok> BluesKaj: well, that would be me, so ... :)
[09:45] <BluesKaj> mneptok, :)
[09:45] <mneptok> it's a reasonably technical discussion of KDE-related stuffs. and no one is being interrupted.
[09:47] <Kjellviz> mneptok	ATI actually is a four lettel word, but the last letter has to be protected as a trade secret.
[09:47] <mneptok> yes, that was me.
[09:47] <Kjellviz> how do you translate that into a reasonable tehcnical discussion of KDE realted stuff ?
[09:48] <mneptok> i said it. i admit it. bring on the NDA lawyers.
[09:48] <Kjellviz> =P
[09:48] <Kjellviz> guess your on FBI most wanted by now :P
[09:48] <mneptok> oh, that happened ages ago.
[09:48] <mneptok> mostly because of my stalking of Gilbert Gottfried.
[09:49] <Kjellviz> but anyways, bottom line is there is compiz?
[09:49] <mneptok> yes.
[09:49] <Kjellviz> ok
[09:49] <Kjellviz> and the compilation that comes with ubuntu ?
[09:49] <Kjellviz> thats beryl+compiz
[09:51] <stan_> so about lm-sensor...
[09:51] <stan_> i have this problem
[09:51] <stan_> i installed it and configured it
[09:51] <stan_> completely followed the howto guide on ubuntu forums
[09:52] <stan_> and i still dont get the cpu temperature
[09:52] <stan_> does anyone know how to fix it or where the problem originates from?
[09:53] <stan_> heres the output of the sensors command in terminal
[09:53] <stan_> w83627hf-isa-0290
[09:53] <stan_> Adapter: ISA adapter
[09:53] <stan_> VCore 1:   +4.08 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)
[09:54] <stan_> VCore 2:   +4.08 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)
[09:54] <stan_> +3.3V:     +4.08 V  (min =  +2.82 V, max =  +3.79 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> +5V:       +5.08 V  (min =  +4.14 V, max =  +0.00 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> +12V:     +11.61 V  (min = +13.38 V, max =  +0.24 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> -12V:      +0.96 V  (min =  -4.14 V, max =  -4.55 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> -5V:       +2.09 V  (min =  -1.33 V, max =  +0.63 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> V5SB:      +5.59 V  (min =  +1.32 V, max =  +5.19 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> VBat:      +0.19 V  (min =  +2.42 V, max =  +1.60 V)       ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> fan1:        0 RPM  (min = 11637 RPM, div = 2)              ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> fan2:        0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, div = 2)
[09:54] <stan_> fan3:        0 RPM  (min = 4963 RPM, div = 2)              ALARM
[09:54] <stan_> temp1:       -48C  (high =    -1C, hyst =   +28C)   sensor = thermistor
[09:54] <Assid> are you sure its detecting everything?
[09:54] <stan_> temp2:     -48.0C  (high =   +80C, hyst =   +75C)   sensor = thermistor
[09:55] <stan_> temp3:     -48.0C  (high =   +80C, hyst =   +75C)   sensor = thermistor
[09:55] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | stan_,
[09:55] <ubotu> stan_,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <stan_> vid:      +0.000 V  (VRM Version 10.0)
[09:55] <stan_> alarms:
[09:55] <stan_> beep_enable:
[09:55] <stan_>           Sound alarm enabled
[09:55] <stan_> it only has those three temps but it doesnt even say which one is a cpu temp
[09:55] <stan_> does anyonw know how to fix it?
[09:55] <Kjellviz> lol
[09:55] <stan_> :)
[09:55] <stan_> samn
[09:55] <stan_> damn
[09:55] <stan_> anyway
[09:56] <stan_> sorry about that :|
[09:56] <stan_> so.. anyone any ideas?
[09:56] <Kjellviz> compiz install file tells me to run autogen.sh, that renders this error for me: bash: autogen.sh: command not found
[09:57] <XmaN> I'm back, large as life & twice as ugly :/
[09:57] <Kjellviz> stan_: sry i have no idea what you are installing :P
[09:58] <XmaN> And it's me who's definitely broken ...
[09:58] <XmaN> Or not ?
[09:58] <stan_> teh sensors to measure temperature and all
[09:58] <Kjellviz> is autogen.sh (or compiz for that matter) gnome spesific ?
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz,no
[09:59] <XmaN> I did some testing of linux on a more powerfull PC
[09:59] <Kjellviz> ok, how come i get the error bash: autogen.sh: command not found
[09:59] <Kjellviz>  ?
[10:00] <XmaN> Mine was Duron 1100+/Abit KT7A/256Mb
[10:00] <crdlb> Kjellviz, why are you compiling compiz?
[10:00] <yknott> Kjellviz: bash autogen.sh
[10:00] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, that's kinda out of my league
[10:00] <XmaN> This other one is Athlon 2500+/Abit AN7/1Gb
[10:00] <yknott> XmaN: yes and?
[10:01] <crdlb> Kjellviz, compiz 0.3.6 is in main, and trevinho has a repository for latest git
[10:01] <XmaN> And damn, if the CPU is not 100% usage while doing any copy ...
[10:01] <XmaN> I also did the same thing on an even older PC, another duron and a K6-2
[10:02] <XmaN> same thing ...
[10:02] <XmaN> But then i played with Acronis which is based on some variant of the Linux kernel ...
[10:02] <XmaN> And this thing is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAST
[10:02] <Kjellviz> because the compiz i get in main repos is both compiz and beryl
[10:02] <Kjellviz> i dont want beryl
[10:02] <crdlb> Kjellviz, what?
[10:02] <Kjellviz> just wanted to test standalone compiz
[10:03] <crdlb> what are you talking about?
[10:03] <crdlb> !info compiz
[10:03] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:03] <crdlb> that is *just* compiz
[10:03] <crdlb> trevinho's repo of compiz-git is also /just/ compiz
[10:03] <Kjellviz> im talking about when i search package manager for compiz i get nothing, if i search for and install beryl i get compiz as an option in beryl
[10:04] <XmaN> Now, i couldn't measure cpu usage but at the rate of copying/compressing (it did that too) the CPU should have been like 30Ghz
[10:04] <Kjellviz> but my graphical add/remove program renders NO results when i search for compiz
[10:04] <crdlb> that makes no sense at all
[10:04] <Kjellviz> none, zip, nada
[10:04] <crdlb> Kjellviz, are you using adept?
[10:04] <Kjellviz> yep
[10:04] <Jack33> how do  i searhc for a process?
[10:04] <crdlb> use apt-get
[10:04] <crdlb> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[10:04] <Jack33> i want to find the firefox process and kill it
[10:04] <Kjellviz> i would if i knew how
[10:04] <Kjellviz> ^^
[10:05] <Kjellviz> thanks
[10:05] <Kjellviz> will that install a manager/config window ?
[10:05] <crdlb> Kjellviz, no
[10:05] <Kjellviz> or is that optional ?
[10:05] <crdlb> there really isn't one for kde
[10:05] <crdlb> with the repo version
[10:05] <Kjellviz> hmmk
[10:05] <crdlb> Kjellviz, what's wrong with beryl?
[10:06] <Kjellviz> just too much
[10:06] <colonia> Hey
[10:06] <Kjellviz> 200 options i dont need
[10:06] <crdlb> Kjellviz, just turn off what you don't want
[10:06] <colonia> Why I got this error? : No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporalmente no disponible)
[10:06] <Kjellviz> and my comp is tad bit slow
[10:06] <Kjellviz> and i like the compiz effects better
[10:07] <crdlb> what does compiz have that beryl doesn't?
[10:07] <Kjellviz> the wobbling is smoother
[10:07] <crdlb> Kjellviz, there's no way to configure compiz 0.3.6 without gconf
[10:07] <Kjellviz> and more stuff wobble in compiz
[10:07] <Kjellviz> ^^
[10:07] <colonia> Anyone can help me with this error?, it appears when Im updating apt-get: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:07] <Kjellviz> gconf, do i need to run gnome to run that ?
[10:07] <crdlb> Kjellviz, no but you need a good chunk of gnome installed
[10:08] <Kjellviz> i already do
[10:08] <Kjellviz> since i installed ubuntu and then added kde
[10:08] <Kjellviz> ><
[10:08] <BluesKaj> colonia, in the konsole type: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:08] <crdlb> Kjellviz, well in that case, you can just use gnome-compiz-manager
[10:09] <crdlb> and put gnome-compiz-icon in your autostart
[10:09] <sito> hellow
[10:09] <sito> :D
[10:09] <colonia> BluesKaj: thanks a lot :D
[10:09] <Kjellviz> ohhh thats another thing. i cant find my autostart lol
[10:10] <BluesKaj> np colonia :)
[10:10] <sito> a program similar kmobiltools?
[10:10] <Kjellviz> i switched from gnome to kde yesterday
[10:10] <Kjellviz> ^^
[10:10] <waylandbill> !autostart | Kjellviz
[10:10] <ubotu> Kjellviz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[10:10] <Kjellviz> danke
[10:11] <jthomas> does anyone have experience using Kubuntu as a DHCP server?
[10:11] <waylandbill> jthomas: works just like any other DHCP server.
[10:12] <jthomas> waylandbill: would I need a second NIC?
[10:12] <Kjellviz> crdlb: thanks a million
[10:12] <Kjellviz> got compiz running now, saweeet
[10:12] <waylandbill> jthomas: you shouldn't.
[10:13] <jthomas> waylandbill: I currently have a Linksys WRT54G with OpenWRT firmware; I just continue to use it as normal after turning off its DHCP?  How do I manage clients?
[10:13] <yknott> bitte
[10:13] <yknott> Kjellviz: why the switch from gnome to kde?
[10:13] <waylandbill> jthomas: the server software should handle all that.
[10:14] <pimpin> i have no sound in my koubountu 7.04
[10:14] <Kjellviz> yknott: it just looks better, nothing else
[10:14] <jthomas> waylandbill: but how do I manage the server software for it?  say i want some static addresses and I want to ban some MAC addresses and I want to renew some leases and all the rest... in the Linksys its all graphical but with the server software I am guessing its CLI...
[10:15] <jthomas> waylandbill: also, how does it work if the Linksys is the current gateway?  and if the linksys does the wifi?
[10:16] <waylandbill> jthomas: if you're using bind, then yes it is CLI (text configuration files)
[10:16] <waylandbill> jthomas: you have wifi clients?
[10:16] <jthomas> waylandbill: yes i have wifi...
[10:17] <waylandbill> jthomas: I'd stick with the built-in dhcp then.
[10:17] <jthomas> waylandbill: hmm... thats what I want to do, but i want to install LinuxMCE and it says it makes the 'cor' computer into DHCP server; i can opt not to do that but then the network boot options are disabled and i need that part...
[10:18] <jthomas> \'core'
[10:18] <Kjellviz> another reason to switch from beryl to compiz; my taskbar no longer shows on top of World of Warcraft
[10:19] <waylandbill> jthomas: you're trying to do some PXE booting. I understand. I've never PXE'd from wifi. only hard wire.
[10:20] <waylandbill> jthomas: I'm not sure I've seen a laptop that will net boot from anything but ethernet.
[10:20] <jthomas> waylandbill: i don't want PXE via the wifi, but I want PXE enabled for the LinuxMCE clients, and i want wifi for the regular machines...
[10:21] <waylandbill> jthomas: sounds like you need to make a subnet for the PXE clients.
[10:22] <binks> hello anyone used mythtv on fiesty or got sasc-ng working
[10:22] <jthomas> waylandbill: hmm that may be the case...
[10:23] <waylandbill> jthomas: you'll probably want 2 nics to isolate the two dhcp servers in that case.
[10:23] <waylandbill> jthomas: could even be ethernet and wifi in same machine like a laptop.
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> binks: only mythfrontend
[10:26] <binks> with a dvb card in your pc
[10:26] <binks> nosrednaekim:
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> binks: DVD card?
[10:28] <waylandbill> jthomas: using wifi and ethernet you'd put the dhcp server on the ethernet and use the wifi to reach the router. Of course, you could use 2 ethernet.. it all depends on what you have available.
[10:29] <jthomas> waylandbill: but with two nics I would have to have two routers, one for each 'type' (wired, wifi)... i want the internet to go to the Linksys, then to my computer; then have my ocmputer hand out DHCP through the linksys again...
[10:29] <binks> nosrednaekim: no dvb digi tv
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> binks: oh... no... I don't have that. I only have the myth frontend going to a gentoo  based backend.
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> the backend has the dvb cards
[10:30] <binks> nosrednaekim: do you use a softcam for testing you no
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> softcam? no
[10:31] <binks> sasc-ng maybe
[10:32] <nosrednaekim> don't know what that is
[10:33] <mayorca1> i need find more server... what i do?
[10:34] <binks> ok not the forum to discus it here
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> mayorca1: servers? what kind of servers?
[10:35] <XmaN> Can somebody point me to some channel where i can find info about my issue ?
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: what is your issue?
[10:35] <XmaN> Which is HI CPU load and abismall performance on any copy operation
[10:35] <jihdfs> sorry fuer den nick aber der hat mir nur 5 sekunden zeit gegeben und die kurzen wie max oder otto hat er nicht akzeptiert
[10:35] <XmaN> on any PC i could get my hands on ?
[10:36] <XmaN> Kernel, glibc, userspace ?
[10:36] <nosrednaekim> !de jihdfs
[10:36] <jihdfs> only english in this channel?
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de jihdfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <XmaN> I can't believe GNU/Linux acts so poorely ...
[10:36] <mayorca1> para los que hablan espaol...les cuento que para sorpresa mia, he llegado a un centro comercial, en Medellin Colombia y vi dos pcs que cualquiera puede utilizar.. ofrecen el servicio de internet... y he encontrado que tienen instalado LINUX UBUNTU... QUE MARAVILLA.
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: so wait, you are having terrible performance?
[10:37] <XmaN> PAINFULL one
[10:37] <mayorca1> al principio, cuando lo v de lejos cre que era win... como suele suceder... pero NO... es LINUX
[10:37] <jihdfs> if anyone speak german and have 10 minits for me ....plz /q me thx
[10:37] <XmaN> Sometimes my mouse stops responding ...
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> jihdfs: yes, only english here
[10:37] <jihdfs> sorry
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> !german jihdfs
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german jihdfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <jihdfs> !german
[10:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:38] <jihdfs> thanks
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: do you have good modern hardware?
[10:39] <XmaN> My own, well, no
[10:39] <XmaN> But my friend's
[10:39] <XmaN> Oh, yeah
[10:40] <XmaN> They're runs faster but the symptom is the same ...
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: so it has terrible performance on good hardware?
[10:40] <XmaN> Not really, but not great either ...
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> alt+esc and see which process is using the most CPU
[10:41] <XmaN> I mean to get 12Mb/sec at 100% CPU usage on 2 yr old top hardware then ...
[10:41] <ismail> hi all
[10:41] <nullkuhl> guys please help am trying to install the driver for my sounds card ( realtek alc880 ) ,, at step 4 of installation it says i should Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution THen  Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf file.  and actually both modules.conf and modprobe.conf are empty files .. i guess they dont even exist ,, can u plz help ??
[10:41] <XmaN> no process
[10:42] <ismail> im having problems with beryl i cant seem to get the window decoration to work any ideas?
[10:42] <XmaN> top says max is 12% cpu
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: thats not bad at all..
[10:42] <XmaN> But the KDE panel CPU mmonitor shows 100% usage (mostly I/O wait)
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> ismail: do you have nvidia, or ATI?
[10:43] <XmaN> and some user/kernelspace
[10:43] <XmaN> Top is wrong
[10:43] <XmaN> There is 100% usage
[10:44] <XmaN> i can feel it because the machine allmost starts to crawl
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: go over to #linux.Top is rarely wrong
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: is the HD being used alot?
[10:44] <XmaN> THX
[10:45] <romeo_> hi
[10:45] <nullkuhl> guys please help am trying to install the driver for my sounds card ( realtek alc880 ) ,, at step 4 of installation it says i should Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution THen  Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf file.  and actually both modules.conf and modprobe.conf are empty files .. i guess they dont even exist ,, can u plz help ??
[10:45] <XmaN> No, that's my gripe
[10:45] <XmaN> On the other OS i can hear it grinding at 30-50Mb/sec
[10:45] <bjwebb> how do i install a .bin file?
[10:45] <Arwen> nullkuhl, Ubuntu is different, edit /etc/modules
[10:46] <XmaN> But *nux barely touches 5Mb/sec
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: even if you are doing heavy disc usage like writing large files?
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: is this a fresh installation?
[10:46] <Cyrano> ok
[10:46] <Cyrano> hi guys
[10:46] <romeo_> i know this an automatix problem ,but has anyone have trouble downloading codecs(media) on 7.04s
[10:46] <Cyrano> totally unrelated question
[10:47] <XmaN> Actually small files go alittle better tha large files but not muxh
[10:47] <Cyrano> is there a native speaker of english here?
[10:47] <bjwebb> i am :D
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: this is the english channel, so yeah.
[10:47] <Cyrano> what is the difference between authentication and authorisation ???
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> actually I speak american ;)
[10:47] <XmaN> Fresh install, many diverse PC's even different distros
[10:47] <Cyrano> ok
[10:47] <Cyrano> that was my question
[10:48] <XmaN> I've been toying with this since some years ago
[10:48] <XmaN> But did not use *nux fulltime so i didn't care
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: Linux has always seemed very fast to me.
[10:48] <romeo_> can someone direct me to automatix  channel if no one can answer my question?
[10:49] <XmaN> Do you have the cpu monitor applet on the kicker (the one with vertical bars) ?
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: I can get it...
[10:49] <Arwen> romeo_, #automatix - but automatix sucks ass
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> romeo_: what codecs do you want?
[10:49] <XmaN> K. Try copying whatever and tell me what it says
[10:49] <romeo_> dvd
[10:49] <romeo_> and all
[10:49] <romeo_> really
[10:49] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | romeo_
[10:49] <ubotu> romeo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <Arwen> don't ever use automatix/easyubuntu/breakyoursystemware
[10:50] <XmaN> For me it is allways 100% (usually on black with some red and yellow )
[10:50] <romeo_> well i have had no problmes really
[10:50] <mayorca1> i wanna find ubunto in spanish
[10:50] <XmaN> translating into heavy I/O time and little user/kernel space activity
[10:51] <mayorca1> Ubuntu
[10:51] <nosrednaekim> mayorca1: !es
[10:51] <Arwen> !es | mayorca1
[10:51] <ubotu> mayorca1: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:51] <mayorca1> thx
[10:51] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: you must have a really misconfigured system.
[10:51] <romeo_> thank you
[10:51] <XmaN> All of them ?
[10:51] <XmaN> Remember i see the same thing everywhere
[10:52] <XmaN> Just that on faster systems it's not that obvious ...
[10:52] <XmaN> How much Mb/sec at what %CPU did you get ?
[10:52] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: you really must not know what you are doing. If its on hardware  younger than 3 years
[10:53] <XmaN> From K6-II upto Athlons
[10:53] <XmaN> Same pattern
[10:53] <Cyrano> so
[10:53] <Cyrano> who can answer me?
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: about 5-10% cpu use, Mb perseconds saturates my 5400RPM lappy HD
[10:53] <Cyrano> what is the difference between authentication and authorisation?
[10:53] <XmaN> How much ?
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: its not a linux question, don't expect an answer
[10:53] <XmaN> 10-15Mb/sec
[10:53] <Cyrano> nosrednaekim:?
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: I really don't know.
[10:54] <XmaN> Using KDE or what ?
[10:54] <NickPresta> XmaN, what seems to be the problem? Your CPU is always using 100% and is rendering your desktop unusable?
[10:54] <Cyrano> that is alinux question
[10:54] <romeo_> one more question can i use the ubuntu restricted formats in (k)?
[10:54] <XmaN> You got it
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: you're talking like Windows authorization right?
[10:54] <genii> You show you have proper authorisation by authenticating your credentials
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: Beryl and KDE
[10:54] <Cyrano> what is the difference between authentication and authorisation when i use session initiation protocol over linux based systems
[10:54] <Cyrano> SIP
[10:54] <XmaN> Beryl ?
[10:54] <Cyrano> SIMPLE
[10:55] <XmaN> Are you kidding me ?
[10:55] <Cyrano> ok?
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: what do you mean?
[10:55] <Cyrano> now is it a linux question?
[10:55] <NickPresta> XmaN, what does `top` and `ps aux` look like? Do you notice anything strange? What services do you have started? What system specs?
[10:55] <XmaN> I don't use such a thing
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: sorry.. I misunderstood you.
[10:55] <sweettooth> hey, i have just installed beryl, and when i started the beryl manager, nothing happens, can anyone please help?
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> XmaN: I'm just showing you that linux is NOT underperforming here
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: do you have ATI or Nvidia?
[10:56] <Cyrano> i dont understand the nuance between those two words is there not anybody who can say me the difference
[10:56] <XmaN> I know Linux is the THING
[10:56] <Cyrano> it seems nearly same to me
[10:56] <XmaN> It's just not my experience ...
[10:56] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, i have intel i915 chip set
[10:56] <XmaN> Maybe i'm a bad apple ...
[10:56] <Cyrano> when i ve seen those two words side by side i couldnt grasp a sentence in my SIP documentation
[10:56] <Cyrano> so nosrednaekim will uexplain?
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: good enough, run "beryl" from the command line
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: and then run beryl manager
[10:57] <NickPresta> XmaN, I would assume it isn't your system specs as I've had Kubuntu run on hardware several years old. However, there is obviously something strange going on. Any information regarding services (from a fresh restart) or the actions that lead up to 100% usage is appreciated.
[10:58] <XmaN> NickPresta: top says the process with the most cpu is at 12% cpu usage and there are another 1-2 processes with 4-5%
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: I really don't know. no experience with SIP
[10:58] <XmaN> So at most 20%
[10:58] <Cyrano> what about literally?
[10:58] <Cyrano> u know the difference between those two words in simple english?
[10:59] <XmaN> cp,mc,gtk,qt,kde whatever you use to copy whatever triggers the same response
[10:59] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, i can start beryl, but i still cannot start beryl-manager
[10:59] <XmaN> poor transfer at 100% cpuload
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> a police officer has to authenicate your badge before you can be authorized to continue
[10:59] <genii> Cyrano Basically When you enter a password or so on, you are authenticating (showing you are authentic). Authenticating proves to the system you are authorised to do some operation.
[10:59] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: what does it say? what errors?
[11:00] <XmaN> if i would had maxed my 7k2 seagate there would be no prob
[11:00] <XmaN> But 5 lousy Megs/sec ?
[11:00] <XmaN> And 12 on some rather modern rig ?
[11:00] <Cyrano> ok thx
[11:00] <NickPresta> XmaN, when you're in `top`, what do you see on the Cpu(s) line? What is your "us" percentage? How many processes are running?
[11:00] <Cyrano> first one is validation second one is allowance permission
[11:00] <Cyrano> right
[11:01] <Cyrano> genii:thx a lot
[11:01] <genii> Cyrano np
[11:01] <XmaN> NickPresta: I'll have to go by memory (since not in linux right now)
[11:01] <XmaN> and cannot reboot
[11:02] <XmaN> Processes: about 20-30 all without cpu usage
[11:02] <XmaN> 1 @ 12%
[11:02] <XmaN> another at 8%
[11:02] <NickPresta> XmaN, you have about 20-30 processes running at any given time?
[11:03] <XmaN> and another at 5%
[11:03] <XmaN> Yeah
[11:03] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, kde crashed just now
[11:03] <XmaN> But these don't eat anything
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> see-g__: ok....
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: so you restarted kde?
[11:04] <XmaN> Most are things like bash, hal, dbus etc
[11:04] <XmaN> Ksysguard was even worse
[11:04] <XmaN> everything was 0%
[11:04] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, yea, but even so, when i started beryl in a shell, it changes my other program windows and eliminated their window bar
[11:04] <daquino> dude firefox is seriously messed up
[11:05] <sweettooth> and when i ran beryl-manager in shell, it gave me some sort of infinite loop that i couldn't stop
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: thats ok (I think), do an alt+f2 after they lose their borders and run beryl-manager
[11:06] <sweettooth> nosredaekim, this is weird, i can't type anything in the command box
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: you can't make it focus... hmm..
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: go to #ubutnu-effects
[11:07] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, now i clicked the option in the command window, i can focus and type on it again
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> *#ubuntu-effects
[11:07] <sweettooth> ok
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> oh... and are borders back?
[11:07] <sweettooth> nope, still haven't got any border
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: so run beryl-manager from there
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: a red crystal will apear in the panel
[11:08] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, yes, i can see it now
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> right click on it.
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> select window manager-> beryl
[11:10] <sweettooth> yup, what shall i do next then?
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: borders back?
[11:10] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, no, they aren't back yet, but i seem to have some errors from the shell where i started beryl
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: whats the error?
[11:10] <sweettooth> beryl: Failed to load slide: /home/robb/hotcorners_racarr.svg
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: you are in fiesty, right?
[11:11] <Grant> where do I get the development files for OpenGL?
[11:11] <sweettooth> beryl: Failed to load slide: /home/robb/hotcorners_racarr.svg
[11:11] <Arwen> sweettooth, one of your images are missing
[11:11] <Arwen> probably a cubecab/skydome
[11:11] <sweettooth> yes, i have feisty installed
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: remove .beryl
[11:11] <Arwen> Grant, archive.ubuntu.com ?
[11:11] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, remove .beryl from where?
[11:12] <sweettooth> sorry, should have said i wasn't an expert in linux neither
[11:12] <Arwen> 'apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev'
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> your home directory, its beryl's configuration directory. pop up a terminal and do "rm -rf .beryl"
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: its ok!
[11:13] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, ok, i have removed it now
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: stop beryl.
[11:13] <Grant> Arwen, thanks
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: just log out I guess.
[11:14] <sweettooth> log out of kde?
[11:14] <Arwen> damn it, running beryl at 2560x1024 is way too slow..
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: yeah... but what other errors did beryl print out? PM me and paste them there (the whole output)
[11:15] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, ok cool, i will log out first
[11:16] <Grant> ugh, do I have to add the GL file directory to some list?
[11:17] <Arwen> Grant, no? What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:18] <Grant> I'm trying to compile an OpenGL c++ program
[11:18] <rathel_> How do I make backspace, Back in Firefox, like it is on Windows?
[11:19] <Arwen> Grant, what program? and which headers exactly is it asking for?
[11:19] <cybrhuman> hi, I am trying to install a program on my laptop, but under configuration I get an error saying that gd.h is required but not found... could someone help me figure out the problem?
[11:20] <Arwen> cybrhuman, what program?
[11:21] <cybrhuman> arwen, s710
[11:21] <cybrhuman> arwen, finding the url...
[11:22] <Pollywog> anyone know why a laptop running kubuntu might be noisy at night when a disktop also running Feisty stays quiet unless it is doing system maintenance asks?
[11:22] <Arwen> .....Kubuntu and Feisty aren't mutually exclusive
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> rathel_: #firefox
[11:23] <Pollywog> no, both are fesity
[11:23] <Pollywog> I did not mean they were two things
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: different hardware?
[11:23] <Pollywog> perhaps
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> worse cooling?
[11:23] <cybrhuman> arwen, http://daveb.net/s710/
[11:23] <Grant> Arwen, I'm including GL/glut.h, GL/gl.h, GL/glu.h
[11:24] <Pollywog> but now the laptop is running Freespire and PC-BSD dual boot and it is quiet all night
[11:24] <ehc> is there a way I can do a cat filename and send the output to klipper or just the next I paste it will be there?
[11:24] <Arwen> Grant, ok
[11:24] <greg_g_> rathel_: in FF in the location bar, type about:config
[11:24] <Arwen> cybrhuman, I'll take a look, but it sounds like you're missing some libraries
[11:24] <greg_g_> in the filter field type "back" to find options with that in them
[11:24] <Arwen> Grant, try freeglut3-dev too
[11:25] <greg_g_> rathel_: when you are that far, tell me
[11:25] <Pollywog> but when this laptop was running Feisty it kept me awake all night
[11:25] <Arwen> also libglu1-mesa-dev
[11:25] <Pollywog> it was... feisty in other words
[11:25] <Grant> Arwen, yea I already got mesa-dev
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: hmm well maybe your frequncy scaling wasn't set up right.
[11:26] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, i have restarted my pc, since after i logged back in, the beryl thing was still kinda running
[11:26] <Arwen> Grant, yeah, look for glut-dev too
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: ok...
[11:26] <sweettooth> anyway, i will start beryl and pm you the error msg, thx for your help
[11:26] <Arwen> sorry, I'm not an expert in packages
[11:27] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: yes I think it was something like that or else the stuff specific to laptops
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> so run beryl now, and pastebin any errors
[11:27] <Pollywog> for energy conservation etc
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> actually, all the output
[11:28] <greg_g_> I guess rathel_ is gone, but if you are looking rathel_, here is the link: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[11:29] <Grant> Arwen, freeglut did it, thanks
[11:31] <excitatory> how could one reinstall kde without bringing in all of the extra packages the 'kde' package does?  (i had a power outage during a kde 3.5.7 upgrade, and kde has been crashing along with amarok, and i think i need to reinstall something.)  For the record, i have updated and attempted dist-upgrading and apt-get install -f, but dpkg thinks everything is in order.
[11:31] <Arwen> Grant, you're welcome :-)
[11:31] <Arwen> excitatory, kde-core
[11:31] <excitatory> Arwen: would i just apt-get install --reinstall?
[11:31] <Arwen> excitatory, eh. mp odea
[11:31] <excitatory> Arwen: since that will probably only reinstalled that meta package..
[11:31] <Arwen> no idea*
[11:31] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, after i typed "beryl-manager &" in the shell, i had sth like an infinite loop showing errors which i couldnt stop, can you tell me how to log them please/
[11:31] <sweettooth> ?
[11:32] <Arwen> you should "apt-get remove --auto-remove kde" and then "apt-get install kde-core"
[11:32] <rathel_> greg_g_: Thanks for that, I was AFK.
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: do you have any clue what the errors were? and don't put the & after it. its not necessary
[11:34] <cybrhuman> arwen, I figured what library I was missing, libgd... thanks :-)
[11:34] <Arwen> good for you :-)
[11:36] <greg_g_> rathel_: no worries
[11:38] <Iwonder|too> whats the trigger for works for me?
[11:38] <ehc> is there a way I can do a cat filename and send the output to klipper or just the next I paste it will be there?
[11:38] <Arwen> !worksforme
[11:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:39] <sweettooth> nosrednaekim, i have no idea what the errors are, as they were running too fast
[11:39] <Iwonder|too> ty very much
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: you know, you can get the window borders back by selecting kwin on that list of window managers in bery-manager
[11:39] <sweettooth> anything i could do to capture the error to a txt file?
[11:39] <sweettooth> i tried
[11:39] <sweettooth> but after i got the borders back, it crashed
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: try just running beryl, without beryl-manager
[11:40] <sweettooth> and i didn't see the taskbar after that
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> and ..... uh oh.. I have to go.
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> sweettooth: go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:40] <sweettooth> alright, well thx a lot for your help
[11:40] <sweettooth> much appreciated
[11:40] <sweettooth> i will
[11:47] <dromer> aaarg, still having massive problems with nvidia twinview, I have a 6200 with crt, dvi and s-video outputs, and crt's on the ctr and dvi outputs (with a standard converter), currently standard xorg.conf with DynamicTwinView = True does recognside the screen on the DVI output properly, it just can't output anything to the screen
[11:47] <dromer> aarg
[11:53] <igorguto> Hello world.
[12:00] <igorguto> Kubuntu = a melhor!
[12:00] <igorguto> weee
[12:02] <wedgeV> how do i configure kwin to raise a group of windows when i click on one of them?
[12:02] <igorguto> I don't know
[12:02] <igorguto> *capotes*
[12:02] <wedgeV> eg: all gimp windows, or emacs and speedbar...
[12:03] <igorguto> cannot help you. I dont even know what is kwin
[12:04] <wedgeV> the kde windows manager, i'll ask in #kde
[12:04] <crimsun> kwin is the default KDE window manager.
[12:04] <igorguto> ahhhh
[12:11] <wimpies> anybody here that knows how to verify an mp3 file without playing it ?
[12:11] <Arwen> wimpies, ...verify? explain
[12:12] <wimpies> well sometimes on my mp3 player the song stops or terminates too quickly although the file seems large enough
[12:12] <Arwen> wimpies, you can't really "verify" it unless there's a checksum posted somewhere
[12:13] <Arwen> you can run it through mplayer with "-ao null" and see if it complains though
[12:13] <wimpies> hmm
[12:13] <kronos91> ciao a tutti