[12:19] <BenC> johnnybuoy: yes, that's normal
[12:19] <johnnybuoy> ah
[12:19] <johnnybuoy> okay, so I need to "roll my own", I guess?
[12:30] <BenC> johnnybuoy: not sure there are even headers for those kernels so you can compile your own
[12:31] <johnnybuoy> that sucks.
[12:32] <johnnybuoy> why is it that the xen kernel has third of the normal kernel's drivers?
[12:33] <BenC> because the xen patch did not support 2.6.20 kernels, else we would have been able to compile it with the rest of the kernels instead of in it's own source package
[12:33] <BenC> hopefully that wont be the case for gutsy
[12:33] <johnnybuoy> one last Q
[12:34] <johnnybuoy> can you please point me to a place where I can download the xen kernel patches, because I can't find them at all
[12:36] <BenC> xensource.com?
[12:36] <BenC> not sure where else to look, they come from all over when you diverge from the actual xen repo
[12:36] <johnnybuoy> man, this is tedious
[12:38] <johnnybuoy> the rpm from xensource.com only has patches for 2.6.18..
[12:43] <johnnybuoy> okay, thanks, BenC 
[12:44] <johnnybuoy> I guess I'm going to try openvz after all :D
[12:44] <BenC> johnnybuoy: I'd suggest giving us a week or two with gutsy
[12:44] <BenC> we'll probably have xen and openvz around then
[12:44] <johnnybuoy> yeah, but I just installed feisty now, removed gutsy...
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> I simply need one or two dev machines, not servers
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> to compile and mess up ;)
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> but thanks, I might check it out then...
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> any backports in the plans? :P
[12:49] <BenC> very very doubtful :)
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> aww
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> maybe some repo will emerge
[12:53] <BenC> I'd be surprised, we can't even get people to submit a decent patch during our 6 month devel cycle for release
[12:53] <BenC> except for zul, but he's real busy being a dad :)
[12:54] <johnnybuoy> w00t: http://cedric.gabriello.fr/ubuntu/
[12:55] <johnnybuoy> check it out, it looks like just what the doctor ordered :)
[12:56] <BenC> someone should whack that guy in the head for hording his work :/
[12:56] <BenC> we need people working on it during devel cycle so everyone can benefit easily
[12:56] <johnnybuoy> yeah, it's strange he starts his own repo
[12:56] <johnnybuoy> mayb he did submit something that was too ugly to be included?
[12:56] <BenC> you should send him a kindly email *nudge*
[12:57] <johnnybuoy> :)
[12:57] <johnnybuoy> yeah, if there was his e-mail anywhere...
[12:57] <johnnybuoy> but it isn't, mabe in the packages
[01:00] <JanC> johnnybuoy: maybe in his GPG key  :)
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> ah...
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> :$
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> wtf? :D
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> if it's in there, he went long wats to make it impossible to send him e-mails :D
[01:02] <JanC> there is a gmail address in it  :)
[01:03] <johnnybuoy> whaaa? :D
[01:03] <johnnybuoy> I don't want to past his gpg, but I can't even see an @ in there...
[01:04] <JanC> a gpg key is encoded, but you can see his e-mail address after importing it
[01:04] <johnnybuoy> ah!
[01:05] <johnnybuoy> gots lots to learn yet...
[01:05] <johnnybuoy> wow, there is..
[01:10] <johnnybuoy> I could tell him to contribute to the gutsy effort, or maybe he could make some backports?
[01:10] <johnnybuoy> well, I'll test the packages first :)
[01:12] <johnnybuoy> okay, brb
[01:24] <johnnybuoy> yep, it works like a charm :)
[01:25] <johnnybuoy> only think that needed a little tweak was the fscking ipw3945 regulatory daemon, that he forgot out of the kernel
[01:25] <johnnybuoy> luckily the one from the -16-generic ubuntu kernel works :)
[02:21] <eean> like every could of minutes my USB drive will be "disconnected" and then (according to dmesg) .2 seconds later it is "reconnected"
[02:21] <eean> like every *couple of minutes
[02:21] <eean> so I repeatedly get the new medium detected messages
[02:25] <JanC> does your USB drive have its own power?
[02:32] <eean> JanC: no, its one of those keychain usb stick
[02:32] <eean> sticks
[02:34] <JanC> then maybe the connector doesn't fit well anymore, or maybe the USB stick is just flaky, or your USB controller is flaky  :)
[02:34] <JanC> does it work on other computers?
[02:34] <eean> haven't used it on others
[02:35] <JanC> and do other USB devices still work properly on your computer ?
[02:35] <eean> I haven't had this problem with other devices
[02:35] <eean> (just mice)
[02:35] <JanC> I suspect it might be your USB stick then...
[02:37] <eean> but its a new one!
[02:37] <eean> :)
[02:37] <eean> I'll check it out though
[02:37] <eean> thanks
[02:38] <JanC> my brother in law bought a new USB mp3 player once, and after 3 days it started working flaky too  ;-)
[02:39] <JanC> (of course he got his money back)
[07:10] <RAOF> Hm.  What's the policy for filing a bug for a new nvidia driver release?  The 100.14.09 drivers are released, and include support for a bunch of previously unsupported cards.  Would a bug against linux-restricted-modules be appropriate, or would this be unnecessary noise?
[07:11] <crimsun> seems like a reasonable wishlist
[07:16] <RAOF> crimsun: Could you change bug #120943 to wishlist?
[07:18] <crimsun> triaged.
[07:19] <RAOF> Ta muchly.
[07:19] <crimsun> np.
[08:10] <shiester_miester> would a discussion involving the "sh" and "tty" programs be applicable in this channel, or should i go elsewhere?
[08:10] <BenC> #ubuntu
[08:11] <shiester_miester> thanks
[08:12] <fabbione> hey BenC 
[08:12] <BenC> fabbione: hey
[08:12] <fabbione> BenC: you are up late
[08:13] <BenC> fabbione: they have fathers day in denmark?
[08:13] <BenC> even if not, happy fathers day :)
[08:13] <fabbione> we had it a couple of weeks ago :)
[08:13] <fabbione> thanks same to you old man :)
[08:14] <BenC> thanks
[08:14] <BenC> had a good day with the kids
[08:15] <fabbione> ehe did you do anything fancy?
[08:15] <BenC> cook out and kicked the soccer ball around :)
[08:16] <fabbione> ehhe
[08:17] <fabbione> i finished to prepare the swimming pool for my son yesterday
[08:17] <fabbione> had to do all the treatment for the water and stuff
[08:17] <fabbione> hopefully the weather is going to warm up again or i will need to add a water heater
[08:22] <BenC> I love pools, hate setting them up
[08:22] <BenC> fabbione: have a good day, I'm off to bed
[08:22] <fabbione> BenC: night man.. tty
[08:22] <fabbione> +later
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[01:46] <zul> hola
[04:22] <zul> BenC: so pkl is handling the virt stuff now right?
[04:22] <BenC> zul: it's being handed off to him, yes
[04:23] <zul> should I still patches to the kernel-team ml or to him directly?
[04:23] <zul> since I have updated it this weekend
[04:24] <BenC> zul: To: pkl, Cc: kernel-team
[04:24] <zul> ok pkl@ubuntu.com right?
[04:24] <BenC> yeah
[04:24] <zul> coolio
[04:24] <pkl_> zul: phillip@ubuntu.com, or phillip.lougher@ubuntu.com... thanks
[04:24] <zul> just need to do one more thing before I do
[04:25] <BenC> pkl_: zul is sending patches for binary-custom.d/xen/ in gutsy kernel
[04:25] <BenC> or patch I hope
[04:26] <pkl_> BenC: OK
[04:29] <zul> sorry timed out