| soc | is there a chance that the linux-libertine fonts will be updated before gutsy? | 12:13 |
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| soc | currently they are at 2.5.9 | 12:13 |
| soc | 2.6.9 is already available | 12:13 |
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| StevenK | crimsun: Ping, round 2, re: 118734 | 01:23 |
| crimsun | StevenK: pong, round 2 | 01:26 |
| StevenK | crimsun: I'm just a little confused about your comments as to why atlas-cpp can't be synced. | 01:27 |
| StevenK | crimsun: The second comment you made looks to be incorrect, since only one .deb contains the .la's. | 01:27 |
| StevenK | crimsun: And I'm not sure what you meant by the first comment. | 01:27 |
| crimsun | ignore the first comment | 01:29 |
| crimsun | (hence the "Sorry") | 01:29 |
| StevenK | Right, okay. | 01:30 |
| crimsun | Ubuntu's libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a contains usr/lib/libAtlas-0.6.la | 01:30 |
| StevenK | Oh, now I get it. | 01:30 |
| StevenK | libatlas-cpp-0.6-1 needs to Conflict/Replace libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a | 01:30 |
| crimsun | yes. | 01:30 |
| crimsun | (hence no sync) | 01:31 |
| StevenK | crimsun: Right. Sorry for being thick. | 01:31 |
| crimsun | np | 01:31 |
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| StevenK | Hrm. Shouldn't Debian have made this change, too. | 01:44 |
| crimsun | looking at packages.do, it looks so | 01:46 |
| crimsun | if it's made in 0.6.0-3, *then* we could sync :) | 01:46 |
| StevenK | Heh | 01:50 |
| pochu | Good night everyone! | 01:50 |
| StevenK | man-di: So, why doesn't libatlas-cpp-0.6-1 Conflict and Replace with libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a? It ought to. | 01:51 |
| AndyP | perhaps a motu would like to unsubscribe u-u-s from bug #120869 until the debdiff is revised | 02:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 120869 in chromium "Game starts paused if you restart it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120869 | 02:07 |
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| persia | AndyP: Thanks for checking :) | 02:09 |
| AndyP | y'welcome | 02:10 |
| AndyP | btw, what do you do with the debdiffs once they're acceptible? just grab the package and use patch, or is there a more clever way? | 02:13 |
| persia | AndyP: Ignoring the review steps, I just download the source, `patch -p1 < ../patch` from the source directory, and build. | 02:14 |
| somerville32 | I'm setting up pbuilder on my server so that I can work on packages no matter where I am but I'm running into a weird problem. It is trying to fetch index file that is not in my sources list and hence dies. | 02:15 |
| AndyP | somerville32: can you pastebin the error messages (if any)? | 02:18 |
| somerville32 | I can just paste it here - one line. | 02:18 |
| somerville32 | Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | Reading package lists... Done | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | Ok.... four lines, lol | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | And as to that url, I don't remember adding that. | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | However, I'm not the only one with root access to the machine | 02:19 |
| AndyP | have you checked /etc/pbuilderrc? | 02:20 |
| AndyP | or your ~/.pbuilderrc of course | 02:21 |
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| who_cares | I have a question about the phpbb package | 05:28 |
| who_cares | why is the version set to 2.0.21-6? | 05:28 |
| who_cares | the latest version is 2.0.22 | 05:29 |
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| who_cares | would that be something to package as an update for feisty? gutsy already has .22 | 05:29 |
| RAOF | You'd need to ask for that to be backported. | 05:30 |
| RAOF | Since Feisty won't be getting new versions of stuff; it's released :) | 05:30 |
| RAOF | !backport | 05:30 |
| ubotu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 05:30 |
| StevenK | And the phpbb package doesn't exist. | 05:30 |
| who_cares | http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/phpbb2 | 05:30 |
| StevenK | Ah. The 2 is important. :-) | 05:31 |
| who_cares | sorry, I was typing that from memory | 05:31 |
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| who_cares | I wasn't sure if the .22 release should go under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU because it has some security patches | 05:31 |
| StevenK | Security isn't handled by SRU. | 05:32 |
| who_cares | okay | 05:32 |
| RAOF | and an SRU generally wouldn't be an upgrade to .22, right? It'd cherry-pick patches. | 05:32 |
| StevenK | If you can make/generate a patch for .21 to fix the security holes, someone here can do the update. | 05:33 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Except if you're firefox, it seems. :-P | 05:33 |
| RAOF | Ah, of course! | 05:33 |
| who_cares | no new features are added to the 2.x line except bug fixes and security patches, so it should probably be backported | 05:34 |
| RAOF | Except backports aren't the way to get bugfixes, IIRC :) | 05:34 |
| StevenK | What we would usually do is take the security patches, and apply them to .21 | 05:34 |
| who_cares | but it would still keep the .21 version number? | 05:35 |
| StevenK | Yes. | 05:35 |
| who_cares | is that what the .21-6 is about? | 05:35 |
| AndyP | the 6 is the debian package revision | 05:36 |
| who_cares | that would mess up the phpbb version system though | 05:36 |
| who_cares | and that leaves an error in the admin area | 05:36 |
| AndyP | i don't see how it would be a problem, it's just the version number of the package | 05:37 |
| who_cares | phpbb checks the version number it has on hand and compares it to a text file at phpbb.com and if the numbers don't match it shows a warning that the user needs to update | 05:37 |
| StevenK | And if they're going to update they are going to ignore the Debian packaging system anyway. | 05:41 |
| who_cares | yeah | 05:41 |
| who_cares | they have their own version numbers | 05:41 |
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| TheMuso | Heya Hobbsee | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey TheMuso :) | 06:10 |
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| crimsun | LongPointyStick: consider using bzr for ~ . It has saved my butt thrice. | 07:05 |
| StevenK | Or, gasp, backups. | 07:06 |
| LongPointyStick | crimsun: it's only .kde/ that i've lost | 07:06 |
| LongPointyStick | but that's still...very bad. | 07:06 |
| RAOF | Hm. bzr for ~. Sounds like a good idea :) | 07:06 |
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| superm1 | what advantage would it have over rsync though - would versioning be that valuable on ~? | 07:07 |
| crimsun | superm1: it really depends on your usage | 07:07 |
| crimsun | I have several files I modify heavily, so it's useful to track their changes | 07:08 |
| crimsun | (yes, I should probably learn to use a real gui planner or something, but TODO doesn't die easily, durnit) | 07:08 |
| superm1 | i guess i missed what happened to Hobbsee, did she accidentally overwrite something in ~/.kde ? | 07:09 |
| LongPointyStick | yeah | 07:09 |
| LongPointyStick | the entire folder. | 07:09 |
| superm1 | LongPointyStick, :( | 07:09 |
| LongPointyStick | the stupid thing is - i did consider making a backup... | 07:09 |
| LongPointyStick | though, oh, i'll be careful, i wont need it | 07:09 |
| superm1 | i made the same mistake with installing pidgin in feisty a few days ago. it apparantly moves your ~/.gaim/logs to ~/.purple/logs and makes the ~/.gaim/logs a symlink instead. I decided to stick with gaim for now and rm -rf ~/.purple. Whoops -there went all my logs | 07:10 |
| LongPointyStick | heh | 07:10 |
| superm1 | i've got a weekly incremental sbackup setup now though, so stuff like this won't be of worry in the future | 07:11 |
| zakame | lpsdoom | 07:22 |
| StevenK | I should resurrect my backup stuff. | 07:22 |
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| StevenK | And update the two spindles of DVDs I have. | 07:23 |
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| Hobbsee | it's mostly just irc logs that are lost, that are the problem | 07:34 |
| Hobbsee | most of the configs i have on an old backup | 07:36 |
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| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Sounds like you have had a problem... I hope everything is ok. | 07:43 |
| TheMuso | Data wise. | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i havent lost that much | 07:43 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Thats good. | 07:43 |
| Hobbsee | it's mostly irc logs, which i cant recover | 07:43 |
| TheMuso | I guess it comes down to just how important those logs are. | 07:44 |
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| crimsun | is aptitude(8) (the man page) a bit wonk for anyone else in gutsy? | 07:46 |
| crimsun | the COMMAND-LINE ACTIONS section, specifically | 07:46 |
| jussi01 | hello everyone | 07:47 |
| jussi01 | hi crimsun | 07:47 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: uh, reasonably | 07:47 |
| jussi01 | hello Hobbsee, TheMuso | 07:47 |
| TheMuso | Hey jussi01. | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | hiya jussi01 | 07:47 |
| jussi01 | :) | 07:47 |
| jussi01 | does anyone know how to use wireless and wired networks simaltaneously? | 07:48 |
| StevenK | Set it up that way? | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | you cant, with nm | 07:48 |
| StevenK | And yes, that. | 07:48 |
| jussi01 | heheh... ok... | 07:48 |
| jussi01 | :D | 07:48 |
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| RAOF | crimsun: Yes. A bunch of \fB's and stuff | 07:49 |
| coNP | hey everyone | 07:49 |
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| jussi01 | hi coNP | 07:50 |
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| porthose | could a MOTU nuke a REVU upload for me, ampache-3.3.3.2, I screwed the upload up (look at the .orig.tar.gz) I have it fixed but when I run dput -f it will not show the changes made | 08:12 |
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| jussi01 | porthose: it seems your new upload is there now | 08:15 |
| porthose | It's showing june 14 and it should say june18 and ampache-3.3.3.2_0ubuntu1.orig.tar.gz should be ampache-3.3.3.2.orig.tar.gz | 08:18 |
| jussi01 | porthose: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5611 | 08:20 |
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| porthose | cool woks for me I don't know what was up I reloaded the page several times and it did not show oh well thanks | 08:21 |
| StevenK | porthose: The upload id will change with each new upload. | 08:21 |
| jussi01 | porthose: there is also http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5519 | 08:22 |
| jussi01 | diferent upload altogether | 08:22 |
| porthose | k cool If you have time would you mind looking at it? | 08:23 |
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| jussi01 | porthose: Im not a motu, sorry, I can look, however, dholbach might have time :P | 08:24 |
| jussi01 | hello dholbach | 08:24 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:24 |
| porthose | dholback: good morning | 08:25 |
| dholbach | porthose: I don't know what jussi01 is referring to, but if you don't find anybody else to look at, you can drop me a mail at dholbach at ubuntu.com | 08:25 |
| StevenK | dholbach: Morning! Do you mind if I borrow/steal your bluez-gnome merge? | 08:25 |
| dholbach | hi porthose | 08:25 |
| dholbach | StevenK: not at all | 08:25 |
| Hobbsee | hiya dholbach | 08:25 |
| dholbach | heya Hobbsee | 08:25 |
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| jussi01 | porthose: so you heard the man, send him an email with the url from revu | 08:25 |
| porthose | I sure will thanks | 08:26 |
| jussi01 | he will get to it in order of his emails... so on a monday morning, thatll be a few hours probably. | 08:27 |
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| RAOF | Yay, a new democracyplayer upstream. | 08:36 |
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| RAOF | Eh, I think some of the patches have made it into the upstream release. | 08:42 |
| RAOF | So, hopefully, there won't have to be quite so much munging around :) | 08:42 |
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| RainCT | hi | 08:45 |
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| dholbach | porthose: did you send the mail? | 08:57 |
| dholbach | hey Nightrose | 08:57 |
| RainCT | AndyP: ping | 08:57 |
| porthose | sure did | 08:57 |
| Nightrose | hey dholbach | 08:57 |
| dholbach | porthose: hum.... I didn't get it yet | 08:58 |
| porthose | resending | 08:59 |
| dholbach | thanks porthose | 08:59 |
| RainCT | AndyP: ah ok, nevermind | 09:00 |
| porthose | dholback: Here is the link http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5611 | 09:00 |
| dholbach | porthose: downloading it... will let you know later - still fixing some other bits up elsewhere | 09:01 |
| porthose | cool works for me have a nice day. I'm going to bed it's 0200am | 09:01 |
| dholbach | porthose: sleep tight :) | 09:02 |
| porthose | thanks | 09:02 |
| crimsun | ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-m4a | 09:04 |
| crimsun | hmm, this is new. | 09:04 |
| dholbach | porthose: I'm 'dholbacH', not 'dholbacK' - maybe that's why I didn't get the mail? | 09:04 |
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| porthose | could be going to resend | 09:05 |
| dholbach | porthose: it's fine now, I have the package downloaded | 09:05 |
| porthose | k going to change my contacts | 09:05 |
| crimsun | (hmm, no, gst-typefind-0.10(1) seems more appropriate) | 09:06 |
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| AndyP | RainCT: pong, if it still applies | 09:09 |
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| jussi01 | can some one tell me what apt-build does and when id use it? | 09:12 |
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| crimsun | the former should be outlined in its Description (`apt-cache show apt-build`). The latter may be "if you feel your CPU(s) are much too idle, and you have a severe rash to burn off." | 09:13 |
| crimsun | e.g., if you are feeling the urge to recompile some subset of source packages for your shining EM64T. | 09:14 |
| AndyP | sigh, my brain isn't working this morning... can/should i mark bug #92952 fix released? | 09:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 92952 in gnu-smalltalk "[can-not-install] file overwrite error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92952 | 09:15 |
| crimsun | yes, you may, and yes, you should. | 09:15 |
| AndyP | thanks | 09:15 |
| crimsun | np | 09:16 |
| jussi01 | crimsun: ok, thanks :D | 09:16 |
| dholbach | thanks StevenK | 09:18 |
| StevenK | dholbach: No problem. | 09:18 |
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| crimsun | argh, I keep typing gst-launchpad[tab] | 10:01 |
| crimsun | silly muscle memory | 10:01 |
| RAOF | :) | 10:02 |
| RAOF | Anyone else seeing problems with building gtk programs? | 10:03 |
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| RAOF | Specifically: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26084/ | 10:08 |
| RAOF | (There goes the simple democracyplayer merge :() | 10:09 |
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| RAOF | Intriguing. Anyone know where /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbuilder.h comes from? Neither ubotu nor apt-file seem to give me anything! | 10:14 |
| Burgundavia | RAOF: the brandnew GTK | 10:14 |
| Burgundavia | http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2007/06/15/gtkbuilder-has-landed/ | 10:15 |
| RAOF | Ah. Ok, so it's not going to show up on my feisty apt-file. :( | 10:15 |
| RAOF | Oh, *awesome* | 10:15 |
| RAOF | Now, to work out whether democracyplayer FTBFS due to a bug in the new gtk, or due to something stupid in democracyplayer. I know where *my* money is. | 10:17 |
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| RAOF | Ok, now I'm confused. I've looked at the two lines from gtkbuilder.h that raise errors in the democracyplayer build, but they look just fine to me. | 10:24 |
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| StevenK | RAOF: dpatch or cdbs patching? | 10:25 |
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| RAOF | StevenK: CDBS | 10:26 |
| RAOF | Also, I can't see where you're going with this. Which is perhaps a good thing, since I can't see what's wrong: ) | 10:26 |
| StevenK | Never mind, I was misunderstanding anyway | 10:27 |
| StevenK | Oh sigh, does the band next door have to practice *now* | 10:28 |
| RAOF | Yes, yes they do. | 10:28 |
| RAOF | The twelve moons of a significant planet in Alpha Centauri are perfectly aligned. | 10:28 |
| StevenK | Keep giggling, I'm reloading. :-P | 10:30 |
| RAOF | Please unload in the direction of democracyplayer, then. | 10:31 |
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| shawarma | smcgraw: Please disable public away messages. | 01:08 |
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| jellyfish2002 | oops | 01:47 |
| StevenK | dholbach: I've looked at your pyorbit merge too, that was ... entertaining. | 01:52 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://dad.dunnewind.net/universe.php | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Kmos at Sun Jun 17 23:49:55 2007 | ||
| pochu | tarzeau: probably #launchpad is a better place to ask, but you should join the Driver team. | 03:42 |
| tarzeau | pochu: i already am in the driver team? | 03:43 |
| tarzeau | pochu: but https://launchpad.net/%7Egurkan-linuks/+participation doesn't list it? | 03:43 |
| pochu | tarzeau: it lists the teams you're in, not the projects. | 03:45 |
| tarzeau | aha | 03:45 |
| pochu | e.g. you can be a project driver, without being in a team, since the project driver can be a person too. | 03:45 |
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| tarzeau | can i show project participation? | 03:47 |
| tarzeau | i mean, to keep track of what i can work on when bored? | 03:47 |
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| pochu | tarzeau: sorry, I can't understand your question. Project participation? | 03:59 |
| tarzeau | yes | 03:59 |
| pochu | What do you mean with it? | 03:59 |
| tarzeau | the main user page has some useful links, but i'm missing the one telling me what projects i work on | 03:59 |
| tarzeau | when i go to launchpad home i can't see sauerbraten in any list | 03:59 |
| tarzeau | but i know i'm something of that project | 04:00 |
| tarzeau | then i go on holidays, forget everything, i need something to remind me on what stuff i work... | 04:00 |
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| pochu | tarzeau: Look at 'Most active in' at https://launchpad.net/~pochu | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | tarzeau: use launchpad.net/~<youruserid> | 04:00 |
| tarzeau | https://launchpad.net/%7Egurkan-linuks/ nothing about most active there? | 04:01 |
| pochu | tarzeau: it'll show up on your page when you have some karma on any project :) | 04:01 |
| tarzeau | pochu: how can i get a karma on that project sauerbraten? | 04:01 |
| tarzeau | i have 0 | 04:01 |
| pochu | Filling a bug, for example | 04:01 |
| StevenK | LP doesn't show me active in Debian. I uploaded twice last week! | 04:01 |
| tarzeau | bugs of it are tracked in the debian bts? | 04:01 |
| pochu | Or doing translations, or... | 04:01 |
| tarzeau | StevenK: me too! | 04:02 |
| pochu | StevenK: LP doesn't give karma for uploads yet | 04:02 |
| StevenK | pochu: I uploaded to *Debian*. | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: that wouldnt be regarded as the debian ubuntu knows about - with the bugs and such? | 04:04 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: But I've done that too. | 04:04 |
| StevenK | Linking bug reports and such | 04:04 |
| tarzeau | StevenK: your debian karma is here http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?steven | 04:04 |
| nixternal | gooooooooooood morning Ubuntu MOTU!!!!! | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | hiya vista-lover | 04:05 |
| nixternal | boo | 04:05 |
| nixternal | http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?nixternal | 04:05 |
| nixternal | gahaha, my Karma kicks arse! | 04:05 |
| StevenK | nixternal: Mine is 3.8 | 04:06 |
| tarzeau | 4.3 here | 04:06 |
| tarzeau | the more variety of stuff you do, the more karma you can get | 04:06 |
| nixternal | I still have my 2 ITPs to close, and that should bump me up to a solid 1.3 ;p | 04:07 |
| tarzeau | (((Source + 1) * (Archived Bugs + 1) * (Sponsored Packages + 1) * (NMUs + 1)) / (Active Bugs + 1)) ^ (1 / 3) | 04:07 |
| tarzeau | that's the formula | 04:07 |
| StevenK | If I could be bothered fixing some of the more esoteric Linda bugs, my karam would be better. | 04:07 |
| StevenK | karma, even | 04:07 |
| tarzeau | StevenK: or you sponsor packages? | 04:07 |
| tarzeau | increases karma significantly | 04:08 |
| StevenK | Ha. Ha ha. Hahahahaha | 04:08 |
| tarzeau | hehe | 04:08 |
| AndyP | what's the procedure for flagging that i want to package a "[needs-packaging] " package? assign the bug to myself and mark as in progress? | 04:09 |
| tarzeau | nixternal, StevenK do you have a 128x128 foto of yourselves? i can add it to that bugstats page if you want | 04:09 |
| StevenK | tarzeau: Yes, and you can't have it. | 04:09 |
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| AndyP | ...i was thinking of packaging something like pycmdr if no one else is interested in it | 04:17 |
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| geser | AndyP: yes, assigning the bug to you and setting it to "In Progress" should work | 04:18 |
| bmm | Any MOTU: The ccbuild package is looking for comments or a second advocate. If you have time, see http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5572 | 04:18 |
| AndyP | geser: thanks | 04:18 |
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| infinito | can any motu give a little review on this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5532... just a little pygtk app... | 05:20 |
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| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 05:33 |
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| cbx33 | ping imbrandon | 05:39 |
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| AndyP | hehe awesome. seen on a needs-packaging bug: "needs to be packaged so my wife will love me." | 05:40 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 05:41 |
| shawarma | AndyP: heh. bug no? | 05:41 |
| shawarma | cbx33: I have a suggestion for vcsfrenzy. | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | ooh | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | shoot | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | I'm all ears | 05:42 |
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| cbx33 | and 2 eyes too | 05:42 |
| shawarma | cbx33: Instead of doing the notifications yourself, you could generate an rss feed which could in turn be read by liferea or whatever rss reader people use. | 05:42 |
| AndyP | shawarma: Bug #111738 ... pity the link in it is broken | 05:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111738 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging] Maitreya" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111738 | 05:42 |
| cbx33 | shawarma possible | 05:43 |
| cbx33 | give me a run down | 05:44 |
| cbx33 | how you would like it to work | 05:44 |
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| shawarma | Well, vcsfrenzy would do it's check-various-repositories magic and write some rss (or Atom or whatever) to some files which will then be served by a webserver to an rss feedreader. | 05:45 |
| shawarma | It would make it more complex, but I find that a lot (possibly all) of the UI stuff of vcsfrenzy can be done easily by liferea as well. | 05:46 |
| shawarma | Well, it wouldn't actually be more complex in itself, but the bzr->vcsfrenzy->rss-file->webserver->rss-client chain is obviously more complex. | 05:47 |
| shawarma | Hmm... liferea could probably read a file:/// url, so you can leave out the webserver bit, if you want. | 05:47 |
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| shawarma | cbx33: Just a thought for the idea pool :) | 05:50 |
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| cbx33 | cool | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | coll I'll keep that on my ideas board | 05:53 |
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| Baby | Hobbsee: hi! :) | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 05:59 |
| infinito | can any motu give a little review on this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5532... | 06:01 |
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| Riddell | lionel: you confirmed 120190, but you're not in ubuntu-dev so you don't have rights to do so. it looks fine though from what I see so I'll sync it, but next time you should describe why you agree its a good idea rather than just confirm it | 06:04 |
| Riddell | bug 120190 | 06:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 120190 in scim-canna "Please sync scim-canna 1.0.0-2 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120190 | 06:04 |
| lionel | Riddell: I'm in ubuntu-dev | 06:05 |
| Riddell | are you? | 06:05 |
| lionel | yes, a new one :) | 06:05 |
| lionel | (new since 15 days or so) | 06:05 |
| pochu | infinito: I'd change ' More information:' with ' Homepage:' (indented with 2 spaces instead of one) | 06:05 |
| lionel | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~lionel.porcheron | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: he is. really | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | lionel: didnt you just apply for core too, or something? | 06:06 |
| pochu | That was mrpouit | 06:06 |
| lionel | Hobbsee: no, it's not me. It's mr_pouit | 06:06 |
| pochu | Which is Lionel too ;) | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | ohhh | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | right | 06:06 |
| infinito | pochu: sorry, correct link is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5542 | 06:06 |
| infinito | that change is already done... | 06:07 |
| Riddell | lionel: I don't see ubuntu-dev in https://launchpad.net/~lionel.porcheron/+participation | 06:07 |
| pochu | Riddell: look at the right column | 06:07 |
| pochu | Indirect participation. | 06:07 |
| pochu | infinito: hehe, I was thinking I already told you that ;) | 06:07 |
| Riddell | gosh how confusing | 06:08 |
| Riddell | what's the difference between MOTU and ubuntu-dev then? | 06:08 |
| pochu | Appart of the name? ;) | 06:09 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:09 |
| lionel | ubuntu-dev is MOTU + core-dev | 06:09 |
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| infinito | pochu: so hard to get reviews that i need to ask again and again ;) | 06:09 |
| Riddell | lionel: no, I'm sure it's not | 06:10 |
| Riddell | lionel: anyway, sorry for the mistake, I'll sync it in a few minutes | 06:10 |
| lionel | Riddell: no problem :) | 06:11 |
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| pochu | infinito: from http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-pkg-synopsis, I think it'd be better to remove the first line of your long description in debian/control, since it's the same of the short one. | 06:16 |
| pochu | infinito: Other than that, find a MOTU to review & advocate it :) | 06:16 |
| infinito | pochu: thats the difficult part, get a MOTU for a review | 06:17 |
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| infinito | packaging is quite easy, get a review is not so easy... | 06:17 |
| pochu | You can mail ubuntu-motu@ too... | 06:17 |
| pochu | Or write in capital leters every 10 minutes asking for it until somebody steps up ;) | 06:18 |
| infinito | that's the worst thing about motu, you have to be here asking every 10 minutes for getting a review | 06:20 |
| infinito | and there a re chances that you dont get any review | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | yes, doesnt help that a lot of the MOTU are taking breaks - or working on other stuff | 06:20 |
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| infinito | i know MOTUs have other things to do, i understand that | 06:21 |
| infinito | it's just that i sometimes feel that getting reviews is extremly difficult | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | it is | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | infinito: ack'd | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | infinito: i've asked a python person to do the other ack - i dont grok python stuff much | 06:23 |
| infinito | Hobbsee: thanks!! | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | geser: how good are you on python? | 06:24 |
| infinito | i think not getting reviews discourages people to packaga thing for universe | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | this is true | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | it's a cycle. | 06:25 |
| infinito | 'cause you try to package, upload, and there waiting for days for a review... and you say "ok, forget about this" | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | i know it's screwed. | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | lionel: how's your python? | 06:25 |
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| Hobbsee | seems like a lot arent here this week | 06:26 |
| lionel | not so good :( | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | right | 06:26 |
| pochu | ScottK's is good. | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | he said it wasnt, in the revu report | 06:26 |
| pochu | Ah, did he? | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | actually, he said in some areas - but didnt mention which they were | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | [02:27] [Whois] ScottK has been idle for 1 day, 10 hours, 47 minutes, and 8 seconds. | 06:27 |
| infinito | yeps, ScottK tried to help me a few days ago, but he said he was not really good at python packaging | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, damn | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | the pythoners are all afk | 06:28 |
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| === Hobbsee wonders if ogra's any good at a python review | ||
| Hobbsee | guess he's busy | 06:29 |
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| pochu | infinito: have you thought in uploading to Debian too? | 06:38 |
| geser | Hobbsee: I'm still learning but I'm improving :) | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 06:39 |
| infinito | pochu: yeps, but not really sure how | 06:39 |
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| pochu | infinito: I joint #debian-python on OFTC, and asked there. Was easy to find a sponsor :) | 06:40 |
| infinito | pochu: OFTC? | 06:41 |
| tarzeau | StevenK: you've got a karma of 6. i updated the debian bugstats page. the sponsor info was missing | 06:41 |
| tarzeau | StevenK: because the grep (qa page changed) was not up to date | 06:41 |
| infinito | pochu: ok, i found it | 06:41 |
| geser | infinito: http://www.oftc.net/oftc/ , another IRC network | 06:41 |
| tarzeau | any idea if i can do stats on ubuntu like at http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ (the infos on top)? | 06:42 |
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| zul | anyone know what they mean by branch url when registering a new branch for a team in launchpad? | 09:03 |
| bluekuja | zul: register it manually | 09:04 |
| bluekuja | dont use lp web interface | 09:04 |
| zul | so bzr push blah blah? | 09:04 |
| bluekuja | just bzr push url | 09:04 |
| bluekuja | yeah ;) | 09:04 |
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| zul | how do I register a product name? ie I want to push to ~/ubuntu-xen/xen-3.1 | 09:06 |
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| bluekuja | zul: you need to create a new project | 09:07 |
| bluekuja | and then push to it | 09:07 |
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| zul | gotcha | 09:07 |
| bluekuja | ;) | 09:07 |
| zul | arrgh bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~ubuntu-xen/xen-3.1/.bzr': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir | 09:09 |
| bluekuja | why are you doing it? | 09:09 |
| bluekuja | just bzr init | 09:09 |
| bluekuja | (if not already created) | 09:09 |
| bluekuja | and then when done locally you publish | 09:10 |
| zul | already done | 09:10 |
| bluekuja | oh :) | 09:10 |
| zul | thats the error I get after I push | 09:10 |
| bluekuja | strange | 09:11 |
| bluekuja | did you commit and then push? | 09:11 |
| bluekuja | did you use sftp? | 09:12 |
| zul | yep | 09:12 |
| bluekuja | zul: https://launchpad.net/projects/?text=ubuntu-xen | 09:13 |
| bluekuja | why there are two projects? | 09:13 |
| bluekuja | e.g xen-3,1 | 09:13 |
| bluekuja | and ubuntu-xen | 09:13 |
| zul | no idea | 09:13 |
| bluekuja | try to push into xen-3.1 | 09:14 |
| bluekuja | then | 09:14 |
| zul | *sigh* nope | 09:14 |
| bluekuja | :D | 09:14 |
| zul | ill try again later when im not falling asleep | 09:16 |
| bluekuja | lol | 09:16 |
| bluekuja | ok | 09:16 |
| bluekuja | :) | 09:16 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 09:42 |
| jrib | hi | 09:43 |
| nixternal | MOTU: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5616 <- can I get an AMEN? I mean a revu :) | 09:46 |
| crimsun | not going to ping frankie on this IRC net first? | 09:49 |
| nixternal | already did | 09:50 |
| nixternal | I want to have it ready just in case | 09:50 |
| sistpoty | hi crimsun and nixternal | 09:50 |
| nixternal | hiya sistpoty | 09:50 |
| crimsun | right, is he going to update "soon"? | 09:50 |
| crimsun | hi sistpoty | 09:50 |
| nixternal | as of right now, probably not | 09:50 |
| nixternal | but he could change his mind in the email, which I am hoping | 09:50 |
| nixternal | you know what, he could very well be at debconf as well | 09:51 |
| crimsun | it looks fine, but I'm not sure what your intent is given your most recent two statements | 09:51 |
| sistpoty | mr_pouit: regarding your core-dev application: can you ping your sponsors for some cheers? ;) | 09:51 |
| nixternal | well, if we don't get anything back by the 21st, then we can upload from revu | 09:52 |
| crimsun | nixternal: well, it's up to you whether you wish to block on his response if you've already contacted him | 09:52 |
| nixternal | we are still young in Gutsy, so I can wait a few days until DIF | 09:53 |
| mr_pouit | sistpoty: gpocentek is sleeping now ^^. But he'll do it tomorrow afaik. | 09:53 |
| sistpoty | mr_pouit: thanks. | 09:53 |
| infinito | please please please!! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5542 :D | 09:53 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: I'll take a look | 09:54 |
| infinito | sistpoty: thanks! | 09:54 |
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| nixternal | after the 21st, we can't do any more merges or syncs can we? | 09:57 |
| crimsun | you still can. That means autosyncer stops. | 09:58 |
| nixternal | ahh, OK | 09:59 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: so far only minor stuff: python-gtk2-dev and libgconf2-dev are arch:any, so they shouldn't be in build-dep-indep, but in normal build-deps. python (w.o. version) shouldn't be needed at all, since it gets drawn in by python-support | 10:02 |
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| mathiaz | Hi. What's the difference between Outstanding and Updated merges in Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic ? | 10:04 |
| infinito | sistpoty: so i move python-gtk2-dev and libgconf2-dev to build-deps and remove Build-Depends-Indep? | 10:04 |
| sistpoty | infinito: yep | 10:04 |
| infinito | sistpoty: ok, should i reupload with those changes? | 10:05 |
| sistpoty | infinito: I'm just test-building the package... if you wait a moment, maybe I'll find some more things | 10:05 |
| infinito | sistpoty: ok | 10:05 |
| bmm | Hi MOTU people, I'm looking for the second advocate for ccbuild http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5572 | 10:06 |
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| jrib | looking for a reviewer: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5444 . Thanks | 10:07 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: W: pyrenamer: script-not-executable ./usr/share/python-support/pyrenamer/pyrenamer/__init__.py | 10:09 |
| infinito | sistpoty: should i add a patch using simplesyspatch to fix that? | 10:10 |
| sistpoty | infinito: no, just chmod in debian/rules (as you can't fix permissions with patches) | 10:10 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: also, it seems a little bit strange to me, that you need arch-dependent build-dependencies at all, as nothing really gets compiled. have you tried with e.g. python-gtk2 instead of python-gtk2-dev? | 10:12 |
| sistpoty | (also it looks, like the checks during autoconf don't seem to be right, but I guess that upstream should care about that) | 10:12 |
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| pochu | mathiaz: Outstanding means they haven't been merged since Gutsy opened. Updated means they were merged, but there's another debian version, so it can be merged again. | 10:13 |
| infinito | sistpoty: im upstream too, but not very good at autotools... :( | 10:13 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: ah... :) | 10:13 |
| pochu | sistpoty: well, he can fix the permission issue removing the hashbang. Then, lintian won't take it as an script. | 10:14 |
| sistpoty | infinito: have you tried using python-distutils yet? (instead of autotools)? | 10:14 |
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| pochu | And I think that's the correct thing for modules and stuff that isn't intended to be executabled independently. | 10:15 |
| sistpoty | pochu: ah, right... and that makes even more sense ... I guess I'm out of practice reviewing :) | 10:15 |
| infinito | sistpoty: yeps, but i dont know how to use it very well.... | 10:15 |
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| pochu | sistpoty: well, I had to do that myself for a couple of packages :) | 10:16 |
| infinito | pochu, sistpoty: in another package i removed the permission warning adding a pathch that removed #!/bin/python from file, is that correct? | 10:17 |
| sistpoty | infinito: I guess so | 10:17 |
| pochu | infinito: right, that's the hashbang ;) | 10:17 |
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| infinito | hehehe | 10:17 |
| crimsun | /bin/python would be wrong regardless | 10:18 |
| pochu | infinito: it's correct as long as it's not the main program. | 10:18 |
| sistpoty | infinito: others than that, the package looks clean (even though my piuparts bailed out with it, but thats a piuparts problem *g*) | 10:18 |
| pochu | Yeah, should be /usr/bin/python, or /usr/bin/env python | 10:18 |
| infinito | pochu: i know | 10:18 |
| infinito | just to lazy to write it here... | 10:18 |
| pochu | Haha, cool then :) | 10:19 |
| pochu | Irssi autocompletes with the filesystem when I start with / and hit tab :p | 10:19 |
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| infinito | sistpoty: it seems that i need python-gtk2-dev, if i remove it: "checking for PYGTK... configure: error: Package requirements (pygtk-2.0) were not met" | 10:28 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: yep, seems like the autotools tests are wrong in this regard (but I don't mind if you leave it in build-deps) | 10:33 |
| infinito | sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5617 | 10:33 |
| infinito | reuploaded | 10:34 |
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| tsmithe | could somebody look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5594 and explain to me which build-depends should be indep and which shouldn't? i still don't quite get it.. | 10:36 |
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| sistpoty | tsmithe: indep should be only stuff that's arch:all and not needed during clean rule | 10:37 |
| sistpoty | tsmithe: if in doubt, just put in in normal build-deps (as afaict launchpad doesn't care for indep anyways) | 10:37 |
| tsmithe | hmm... since it's a cdbs package, i'm not sure which is and which isn't | 10:37 |
| tsmithe | ah ok | 10:37 |
| tsmithe | sistpoty, could you give it a revu, then please? (and upload if you're kind and it doesn't need two sponsors :p) | 10:38 |
| nixternal | crimsun: you can deny that smb4k request. frankie just updated it :) | 10:38 |
| sistpoty | tsmithe: sorry, I need to go to bed soon (I'm now a working citizen)... | 10:39 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok :) | 10:39 |
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| sistpoty | infinito: just for future reference: please list everything you changed diverging from upstream in debian/changelog (e.g. the patch), as the difference between the plain upstream version is especially interesting if anyone else wants to modify your package | 10:42 |
| infinito | sistpoty: ok | 10:42 |
| sistpoty | infinito: but the package is fine with me, uploading it ;) | 10:43 |
| infinito | sistpoty: thats all? i mean, is it uploaded to universe ? or do i need more reviews? | 10:45 |
| sistpoty | infinito: it's uploaded, but it still needs to go through ubuntu-archive until it hits universe. and then you should of course watch out for bugs etc. ;) | 10:46 |
| luisbg | zakame, ping | 10:46 |
| tsmithe | zakame, you around | 10:46 |
| tsmithe | damn luisbg you beat me to it | 10:46 |
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| luisbg | tsmithe, muahahahaha | 10:47 |
| infinito | sistpoty: so thank you very much for helping! | 10:47 |
| sistpoty | infinito: thanks for contributing! :) | 10:47 |
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| infinito | sistpoty: one more question... what should i do when there's a new upstream version? | 10:48 |
| infinito | upload to revi again? | 10:48 |
| infinito | s/revi/revu | 10:49 |
| sistpoty | infinito: yes... if you fix a bug as a *maintainer* w.o. a new upstream version, it's easier to attach a debdiff to a bug and assign it to ubuntu-universe-contributors. For new upstream versions, revu is better suited. | 10:49 |
| infinito | ok, thanks! | 10:50 |
| mok0 | I am working on a package that wants to compile python extension modules. Configure wants users to define --with-py-site-packages-dir=<installation dir for python packages>. That does not seem to work well with the python packaging guidelines. | 10:53 |
| mr_pouit | is ubuntu-restricted-extras maintained in bzr (I can't find it on LP), or should I upload directly to add xubuntu-restricted-extras binaries? | 10:53 |
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| xxxxx1 | bye all | 11:02 |
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| sistpoty | mok0: did you talk with upstream about that yet? | 11:06 |
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| sistpoty | cya folks | 11:10 |
| bmm | bye | 11:12 |
| bmm | I was talking to sistpoty, I'm still here. | 11:14 |
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| bmm | If somebody is thinking about advocating something, take a look at my package http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5572 | 11:14 |
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