[12:13] is there a chance that the linux-libertine fonts will be updated before gutsy? [12:13] currently they are at 2.5.9 [12:13] 2.6.9 is already available === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheDumbo is now known as Qball === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-186-154.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-144-223-188.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@dyn-81-5-133-129.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === mok0 [n=mok@56346690.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grayman [n=grayman@89.1.245.207.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] crimsun: Ping, round 2, re: 118734 [01:26] StevenK: pong, round 2 [01:27] crimsun: I'm just a little confused about your comments as to why atlas-cpp can't be synced. [01:27] crimsun: The second comment you made looks to be incorrect, since only one .deb contains the .la's. [01:27] crimsun: And I'm not sure what you meant by the first comment. [01:29] ignore the first comment [01:29] (hence the "Sorry") [01:30] Right, okay. [01:30] Ubuntu's libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a contains usr/lib/libAtlas-0.6.la [01:30] Oh, now I get it. [01:30] libatlas-cpp-0.6-1 needs to Conflict/Replace libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a [01:30] yes. [01:31] (hence no sync) [01:31] crimsun: Right. Sorry for being thick. [01:31] np === jussio1 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] Hrm. Shouldn't Debian have made this change, too. [01:46] looking at packages.do, it looks so [01:46] if it's made in 0.6.0-3, *then* we could sync :) [01:50] Heh [01:50] Good night everyone! [01:51] man-di: So, why doesn't libatlas-cpp-0.6-1 Conflict and Replace with libatlas-cpp-0.6-0c2a? It ought to. [02:07] perhaps a motu would like to unsubscribe u-u-s from bug #120869 until the debdiff is revised [02:07] Launchpad bug 120869 in chromium "Game starts paused if you restart it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120869 === persia looks [02:09] AndyP: Thanks for checking :) [02:10] y'welcome [02:13] btw, what do you do with the debdiffs once they're acceptible? just grab the package and use patch, or is there a more clever way? [02:14] AndyP: Ignoring the review steps, I just download the source, `patch -p1 < ../patch` from the source directory, and build. [02:15] I'm setting up pbuilder on my server so that I can work on packages no matter where I am but I'm running into a weird problem. It is trying to fetch index file that is not in my sources list and hence dies. [02:18] somerville32: can you pastebin the error messages (if any)? [02:18] I can just paste it here - one line. [02:19] Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [02:19] Reading package lists... Done [02:19] E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [02:19] Ok.... four lines, lol [02:19] And as to that url, I don't remember adding that. [02:19] However, I'm not the only one with root access to the machine [02:20] have you checked /etc/pbuilderrc? [02:21] or your ~/.pbuilderrc of course === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grayman [n=grayman@89.1.242.144.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick_ [n=Ryan@adsl-68-23-171-58.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Sto] === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@168.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N878P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] I have a question about the phpbb package [05:28] why is the version set to 2.0.21-6? [05:29] the latest version is 2.0.22 === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.232.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] would that be something to package as an update for feisty? gutsy already has .22 [05:30] You'd need to ask for that to be backported. [05:30] Since Feisty won't be getting new versions of stuff; it's released :) [05:30] !backport [05:30] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [05:30] And the phpbb package doesn't exist. [05:30] http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/phpbb2 [05:31] Ah. The 2 is important. :-) [05:31] sorry, I was typing that from memory === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] I wasn't sure if the .22 release should go under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU because it has some security patches [05:32] Security isn't handled by SRU. [05:32] okay [05:32] and an SRU generally wouldn't be an upgrade to .22, right? It'd cherry-pick patches. [05:33] If you can make/generate a patch for .21 to fix the security holes, someone here can do the update. [05:33] RAOF: Except if you're firefox, it seems. :-P [05:33] Ah, of course! [05:34] no new features are added to the 2.x line except bug fixes and security patches, so it should probably be backported [05:34] Except backports aren't the way to get bugfixes, IIRC :) [05:34] What we would usually do is take the security patches, and apply them to .21 [05:35] but it would still keep the .21 version number? [05:35] Yes. [05:35] is that what the .21-6 is about? [05:36] the 6 is the debian package revision [05:36] that would mess up the phpbb version system though [05:36] and that leaves an error in the admin area [05:37] i don't see how it would be a problem, it's just the version number of the package [05:37] phpbb checks the version number it has on hand and compares it to a text file at phpbb.com and if the numbers don't match it shows a warning that the user needs to update [05:41] And if they're going to update they are going to ignore the Debian packaging system anyway. [05:41] yeah [05:41] they have their own version numbers === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-194-223.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === who_care1 [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Heya Hobbsee [06:10] hey TheMuso :) === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-96-181.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] LongPointyStick: consider using bzr for ~ . It has saved my butt thrice. [07:06] Or, gasp, backups. [07:06] crimsun: it's only .kde/ that i've lost [07:06] but that's still...very bad. [07:06] Hm. bzr for ~. Sounds like a good idea :) === LongPointyStick has no logs now. :( [07:07] what advantage would it have over rsync though - would versioning be that valuable on ~? [07:07] superm1: it really depends on your usage [07:08] I have several files I modify heavily, so it's useful to track their changes [07:08] (yes, I should probably learn to use a real gui planner or something, but TODO doesn't die easily, durnit) [07:09] i guess i missed what happened to Hobbsee, did she accidentally overwrite something in ~/.kde ? [07:09] yeah [07:09] the entire folder. [07:09] LongPointyStick, :( [07:09] the stupid thing is - i did consider making a backup... [07:09] though, oh, i'll be careful, i wont need it [07:10] i made the same mistake with installing pidgin in feisty a few days ago. it apparantly moves your ~/.gaim/logs to ~/.purple/logs and makes the ~/.gaim/logs a symlink instead. I decided to stick with gaim for now and rm -rf ~/.purple. Whoops -there went all my logs [07:10] heh [07:11] i've got a weekly incremental sbackup setup now though, so stuff like this won't be of worry in the future [07:22] lpsdoom [07:22] I should resurrect my backup stuff. === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:23] And update the two spindles of DVDs I have. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] it's mostly just irc logs that are lost, that are the problem [07:36] most of the configs i have on an old backup === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443f3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] Hobbsee: Sounds like you have had a problem... I hope everything is ok. [07:43] Data wise. [07:43] TheMuso: i havent lost that much [07:43] Hobbsee: Thats good. [07:43] it's mostly irc logs, which i cant recover [07:44] I guess it comes down to just how important those logs are. === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun blinks [07:46] is aptitude(8) (the man page) a bit wonk for anyone else in gutsy? [07:46] the COMMAND-LINE ACTIONS section, specifically [07:47] hello everyone [07:47] hi crimsun === jussi01 throws sticks and stones at knetwork manager [07:47] TheMuso: uh, reasonably [07:47] hello Hobbsee, TheMuso [07:47] Hey jussi01. [07:47] hiya jussi01 [07:47] :) [07:48] does anyone know how to use wireless and wired networks simaltaneously? [07:48] Set it up that way? [07:48] you cant, with nm [07:48] And yes, that. [07:48] heheh... ok... [07:48] :D === jussi01 throws more sticks and stones at knetwork manager.... [07:49] crimsun: Yes. A bunch of \fB's and stuff [07:49] hey everyone === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] hi coNP === lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_1hicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-79-241.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-79-241.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] could a MOTU nuke a REVU upload for me, ampache-3.3.3.2, I screwed the upload up (look at the .orig.tar.gz) I have it fixed but when I run dput -f it will not show the changes made === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mrpouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] porthose: it seems your new upload is there now [08:18] It's showing june 14 and it should say june18 and ampache-3.3.3.2_0ubuntu1.orig.tar.gz should be ampache-3.3.3.2.orig.tar.gz [08:20] porthose: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5611 === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] cool woks for me I don't know what was up I reloaded the page several times and it did not show oh well thanks [08:21] porthose: The upload id will change with each new upload. [08:22] porthose: there is also http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5519 [08:22] diferent upload altogether [08:23] k cool If you have time would you mind looking at it? === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F734C3.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] porthose: Im not a motu, sorry, I can look, however, dholbach might have time :P [08:24] hello dholbach [08:24] good morning [08:25] dholback: good morning [08:25] porthose: I don't know what jussi01 is referring to, but if you don't find anybody else to look at, you can drop me a mail at dholbach at ubuntu.com [08:25] dholbach: Morning! Do you mind if I borrow/steal your bluez-gnome merge? [08:25] hi porthose [08:25] StevenK: not at all [08:25] hiya dholbach [08:25] heya Hobbsee === dholbach hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs dholbach [08:25] porthose: so you heard the man, send him an email with the url from revu [08:26] I sure will thanks [08:27] he will get to it in order of his emails... so on a monday morning, thatll be a few hours probably. === luisbg [n=d33p@242.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] Yay, a new democracyplayer upstream. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK wipes the sarcasm off RAOF's last statement. [08:42] Eh, I think some of the patches have made it into the upstream release. [08:42] So, hopefully, there won't have to be quite so much munging around :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [n=RainCT@77.209.5.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] hi === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-109.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-79-241.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] porthose: did you send the mail? [08:57] hey Nightrose [08:57] AndyP: ping [08:57] sure did [08:57] hey dholbach [08:58] porthose: hum.... I didn't get it yet [08:59] resending [08:59] thanks porthose [09:00] AndyP: ah ok, nevermind [09:00] dholback: Here is the link http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5611 [09:01] porthose: downloading it... will let you know later - still fixing some other bits up elsewhere [09:01] cool works for me have a nice day. I'm going to bed it's 0200am [09:02] porthose: sleep tight :) [09:02] thanks [09:04] ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-m4a [09:04] hmm, this is new. [09:04] porthose: I'm 'dholbacH', not 'dholbacK' - maybe that's why I didn't get the mail? === crimsun reads gst-inspect-0.10(1) [09:05] could be going to resend [09:05] porthose: it's fine now, I have the package downloaded [09:05] k going to change my contacts [09:06] (hmm, no, gst-typefind-0.10(1) seems more appropriate) === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.97.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] RainCT: pong, if it still applies === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F77CF6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nuu [n=nuu@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] can some one tell me what apt-build does and when id use it? === Knightlust [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-96-181.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] the former should be outlined in its Description (`apt-cache show apt-build`). The latter may be "if you feel your CPU(s) are much too idle, and you have a severe rash to burn off." [09:14] e.g., if you are feeling the urge to recompile some subset of source packages for your shining EM64T. [09:15] sigh, my brain isn't working this morning... can/should i mark bug #92952 fix released? [09:15] Launchpad bug 92952 in gnu-smalltalk "[can-not-install] file overwrite error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92952 [09:15] yes, you may, and yes, you should. [09:15] thanks [09:16] np [09:16] crimsun: ok, thanks :D [09:18] thanks StevenK [09:18] dholbach: No problem. === jamyskis [n=dlecount@dslb-084-061-033-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === as30af [n=ashrafin@41.208.71.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [i=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === as30af [n=ashrafin@41.208.71.196] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-79-241.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N878P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schoollogger [n=me@N878P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@241.123.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@241.123.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] argh, I keep typing gst-launchpad[tab] [10:01] silly muscle memory [10:02] :) [10:03] Anyone else seeing problems with building gtk programs? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] Specifically: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26084/ [10:09] (There goes the simple democracyplayer merge :() === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] Intriguing. Anyone know where /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbuilder.h comes from? Neither ubotu nor apt-file seem to give me anything! [10:14] RAOF: the brandnew GTK [10:15] http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2007/06/15/gtkbuilder-has-landed/ [10:15] Ah. Ok, so it's not going to show up on my feisty apt-file. :( [10:15] Oh, *awesome* [10:17] Now, to work out whether democracyplayer FTBFS due to a bug in the new gtk, or due to something stupid in democracyplayer. I know where *my* money is. === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] Ok, now I'm confused. I've looked at the two lines from gtkbuilder.h that raise errors in the democracyplayer build, but they look just fine to me. === RAOF whines plaintively to the world in general. [10:25] RAOF: dpatch or cdbs patching? === tmarble [i=tmarble@conference/debconf/x-7f1997012e707502] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] StevenK: CDBS [10:26] Also, I can't see where you're going with this. Which is perhaps a good thing, since I can't see what's wrong: ) [10:27] Never mind, I was misunderstanding anyway [10:28] Oh sigh, does the band next door have to practice *now* [10:28] Yes, yes they do. [10:28] The twelve moons of a significant planet in Alpha Centauri are perfectly aligned. 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[03:43] pochu: i already am in the driver team? [03:43] pochu: but https://launchpad.net/%7Egurkan-linuks/+participation doesn't list it? [03:45] tarzeau: it lists the teams you're in, not the projects. [03:45] aha [03:45] e.g. you can be a project driver, without being in a team, since the project driver can be a person too. === DSBassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac2dd0c.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] can i show project participation? [03:47] i mean, to keep track of what i can work on when bored? === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac2dd0c.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db446ca.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] tarzeau: sorry, I can't understand your question. Project participation? [03:59] yes [03:59] What do you mean with it? [03:59] the main user page has some useful links, but i'm missing the one telling me what projects i work on [03:59] when i go to launchpad home i can't see sauerbraten in any list [04:00] but i know i'm something of that project [04:00] then i go on holidays, forget everything, i need something to remind me on what stuff i work... === RainC1 [n=RainCT@212-73-40-242.red-acceso.airtel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] tarzeau: Look at 'Most active in' at https://launchpad.net/~pochu [04:00] tarzeau: use launchpad.net/~ [04:01] https://launchpad.net/%7Egurkan-linuks/ nothing about most active there? [04:01] tarzeau: it'll show up on your page when you have some karma on any project :) [04:01] pochu: how can i get a karma on that project sauerbraten? [04:01] i have 0 [04:01] Filling a bug, for example [04:01] LP doesn't show me active in Debian. I uploaded twice last week! [04:01] bugs of it are tracked in the debian bts? [04:01] Or doing translations, or... [04:02] StevenK: me too! [04:02] StevenK: LP doesn't give karma for uploads yet [04:02] pochu: I uploaded to *Debian*. [04:04] StevenK: that wouldnt be regarded as the debian ubuntu knows about - with the bugs and such? [04:04] Hobbsee: But I've done that too. [04:04] Linking bug reports and such [04:04] StevenK: your debian karma is here http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?steven [04:04] gooooooooooood morning Ubuntu MOTU!!!!! [04:05] hiya vista-lover [04:05] boo [04:05] http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/?nixternal [04:05] gahaha, my Karma kicks arse! [04:06] nixternal: Mine is 3.8 [04:06] 4.3 here [04:06] the more variety of stuff you do, the more karma you can get [04:07] I still have my 2 ITPs to close, and that should bump me up to a solid 1.3 ;p [04:07] (((Source + 1) * (Archived Bugs + 1) * (Sponsored Packages + 1) * (NMUs + 1)) / (Active Bugs + 1)) ^ (1 / 3) [04:07] that's the formula [04:07] If I could be bothered fixing some of the more esoteric Linda bugs, my karam would be better. [04:07] karma, even [04:07] StevenK: or you sponsor packages? [04:08] increases karma significantly [04:08] Ha. Ha ha. Hahahahaha [04:08] hehe [04:09] what's the procedure for flagging that i want to package a "[needs-packaging] " package? assign the bug to myself and mark as in progress? [04:09] nixternal, StevenK do you have a 128x128 foto of yourselves? i can add it to that bugstats page if you want [04:09] tarzeau: Yes, and you can't have it. === StevenK is quite unphotogenic === bmm [n=chatzill@tcw3.ai.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] ...i was thinking of packaging something like pycmdr if no one else is interested in it === Neonightmare [n=neonight@66-28.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:18] AndyP: yes, assigning the bug to you and setting it to "In Progress" should work [04:18] Any MOTU: The ccbuild package is looking for comments or a second advocate. If you have time, see http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5572 [04:18] geser: thanks === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@72.Red-88-11-171.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@80.Red-88-27-29.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redkrieg_ [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zasf [n=matteo@host79-62-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-42-47.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DSBassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac7bc6f.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.232.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-76-29-9-184.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] can any motu give a little review on this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5532... just a little pygtk app... === iceman [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dharrigan [n=dharriga@dsl-217-155-228-129.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.182.76] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] Hi all === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-225-120.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] ping imbrandon === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] [05:40] hehe awesome. seen on a needs-packaging bug: "needs to be packaged so my wife will love me." [05:41] heheh [05:41] AndyP: heh. bug no? [05:41] cbx33: I have a suggestion for vcsfrenzy. [05:41] ooh [05:41] shoot [05:42] I'm all ears === pochu [n=emilio@252.Red-83-57-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] and 2 eyes too [05:42] cbx33: Instead of doing the notifications yourself, you could generate an rss feed which could in turn be read by liferea or whatever rss reader people use. [05:42] shawarma: Bug #111738 ... pity the link in it is broken [05:42] Launchpad bug 111738 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging] Maitreya" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111738 [05:43] shawarma possible [05:44] give me a run down [05:44] how you would like it to work === luis_lopez [n=Miranda@68-182-35-75-Public-Marmac-MIPHA.client.eng.telusmobility.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Well, vcsfrenzy would do it's check-various-repositories magic and write some rss (or Atom or whatever) to some files which will then be served by a webserver to an rss feedreader. [05:46] It would make it more complex, but I find that a lot (possibly all) of the UI stuff of vcsfrenzy can be done easily by liferea as well. [05:47] Well, it wouldn't actually be more complex in itself, but the bzr->vcsfrenzy->rss-file->webserver->rss-client chain is obviously more complex. [05:47] Hmm... liferea could probably read a file:/// url, so you can leave out the webserver bit, if you want. === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:50] cbx33: Just a thought for the idea pool :) === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-3afd7ac1f479636e] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] cool [05:53] coll I'll keep that on my ideas board === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] Hobbsee: hi! :) [05:59] heya! [06:01] can any motu give a little review on this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5532... === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-69-249-127-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] lionel: you confirmed 120190, but you're not in ubuntu-dev so you don't have rights to do so. it looks fine though from what I see so I'll sync it, but next time you should describe why you agree its a good idea rather than just confirm it [06:04] bug 120190 [06:04] Launchpad bug 120190 in scim-canna "Please sync scim-canna 1.0.0-2 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120190 [06:05] Riddell: I'm in ubuntu-dev [06:05] are you? [06:05] yes, a new one :) [06:05] (new since 15 days or so) [06:05] infinito: I'd change ' More information:' with ' Homepage:' (indented with 2 spaces instead of one) [06:06] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~lionel.porcheron [06:06] Riddell: he is. really [06:06] lionel: didnt you just apply for core too, or something? [06:06] That was mrpouit [06:06] Hobbsee: no, it's not me. It's mr_pouit [06:06] Which is Lionel too ;) [06:06] ohhh [06:06] right [06:06] pochu: sorry, correct link is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5542 [06:07] that change is already done... [06:07] lionel: I don't see ubuntu-dev in https://launchpad.net/~lionel.porcheron/+participation [06:07] Riddell: look at the right column [06:07] Indirect participation. [06:07] infinito: hehe, I was thinking I already told you that ;) [06:08] gosh how confusing [06:08] what's the difference between MOTU and ubuntu-dev then? [06:09] Appart of the name? ;) [06:09] yes [06:09] ubuntu-dev is MOTU + core-dev === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] pochu: so hard to get reviews that i need to ask again and again ;) [06:10] lionel: no, I'm sure it's not [06:10] lionel: anyway, sorry for the mistake, I'll sync it in a few minutes [06:11] Riddell: no problem :) === stratus_ [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-ec4a0c2d9e929dc6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] infinito: from http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-pkg-synopsis, I think it'd be better to remove the first line of your long description in debian/control, since it's the same of the short one. [06:16] infinito: Other than that, find a MOTU to review & advocate it :) [06:17] pochu: thats the difficult part, get a MOTU for a review === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-88.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] packaging is quite easy, get a review is not so easy... [06:17] You can mail ubuntu-motu@ too... [06:18] Or write in capital leters every 10 minutes asking for it until somebody steps up ;) [06:20] that's the worst thing about motu, you have to be here asking every 10 minutes for getting a review [06:20] and there a re chances that you dont get any review [06:20] yes, doesnt help that a lot of the MOTU are taking breaks - or working on other stuff === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] i know MOTUs have other things to do, i understand that [06:22] it's just that i sometimes feel that getting reviews is extremly difficult [06:22] it is [06:23] infinito: ack'd [06:23] infinito: i've asked a python person to do the other ack - i dont grok python stuff much [06:24] Hobbsee: thanks!! [06:24] no problem [06:24] geser: how good are you on python? [06:25] i think not getting reviews discourages people to packaga thing for universe [06:25] this is true [06:25] it's a cycle. [06:25] 'cause you try to package, upload, and there waiting for days for a review... and you say "ok, forget about this" [06:25] i know it's screwed. [06:25] lionel: how's your python? === grayman [n=grayman@89.1.242.144.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] seems like a lot arent here this week [06:26] not so good :( [06:26] right [06:26] ScottK's is good. [06:26] he said it wasnt, in the revu report [06:26] Ah, did he? [06:27] actually, he said in some areas - but didnt mention which they were [06:27] [02:27] [Whois] ScottK has been idle for 1 day, 10 hours, 47 minutes, and 8 seconds. [06:28] yeps, ScottK tried to help me a few days ago, but he said he was not really good at python packaging [06:28] yeah, damn [06:28] the pythoners are all afk === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee wonders if ogra's any good at a python review [06:29] guess he's busy === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.173] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] infinito: have you thought in uploading to Debian too? [06:39] Hobbsee: I'm still learning but I'm improving :) [06:39] :) [06:39] pochu: yeps, but not really sure how === luisbg [n=d33p@1.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] infinito: I joint #debian-python on OFTC, and asked there. Was easy to find a sponsor :) [06:41] pochu: OFTC? 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[09:04] zul: register it manually [09:04] dont use lp web interface [09:04] so bzr push blah blah? [09:04] just bzr push url [09:04] yeah ;) === acm___ [n=ameinke@p57BCA438.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === acm___ is now known as acm_ [09:06] how do I register a product name? ie I want to push to ~/ubuntu-xen/xen-3.1 === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] zul: you need to create a new project [09:07] and then push to it === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] gotcha [09:07] ;) [09:09] arrgh bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~ubuntu-xen/xen-3.1/.bzr': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir [09:09] why are you doing it? [09:09] just bzr init [09:09] (if not already created) [09:10] and then when done locally you publish [09:10] already done [09:10] oh :) [09:10] thats the error I get after I push [09:11] strange [09:11] did you commit and then push? [09:12] did you use sftp? [09:12] yep [09:13] zul: https://launchpad.net/projects/?text=ubuntu-xen [09:13] why there are two projects? [09:13] e.g xen-3,1 [09:13] and ubuntu-xen [09:13] no idea [09:14] try to push into xen-3.1 [09:14] then [09:14] *sigh* nope [09:14] :D [09:16]