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ix__hi03:06
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thedrummerhello all. . can anybody answer questions about a good video capture card?04:28
OpenMediaFirst up where in the world are you. Next is what are you capturing from04:32
thedrummer:-d.. I'm in Michigan, USA04:35
OpenMediaSo will you be capturing SD/HD ?04:35
thedrummer I was in this room yesterday, but i'm trying to find a dirt cheap card used to Encode video streams .. I was told that the  Hauppauge pvr-150 is perfect, but i'm looking for the most Dirt - cheap one..04:36
thedrummerI have a slow computer, so the Device would have to have it's own processing04:36
OpenMediaCheap != goodness04:36
OpenMediaPVR 150 cards just tend to work, and are great to offload CPU04:36
thedrummeri'm trying to build a home-made DVR pretty much.. out of a PIII with 256 mb of RAM04:36
thedrummeri see04:37
thedrummeri guess i'm just cheap :-d04:37
OpenMediaNot worth the pain of using a framegrabber unless you want to capture raw video and transcode later.04:38
thedrummeris the pvr-150 a framegrabber?04:38
thedrummerwould that be ideal to put a PVR-150 in an old computer?04:38
thedrummeri guess i just want to be able to Pause , rewind.. and maybe record video streams on live tv04:39
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OpenMediaPVR-150 is and MPEG-2 HW capture. Cheaper cards are framegrabbers where you need to encode in software with sufficient CPU grunt04:39
thedrummerahhh.. yeah I guess i should avoid using the CPU .. i see what you're saying.04:40
thedrummerEverywhere I search on the internet for PVR-150 .. it doesn't come with the REMOTE .. i would need the remote, right?04:40
OpenMediaThere are multiple versions.04:41
OpenMedia1. the old PVR-150 with a Hauppauge remote04:41
OpenMedia2. The bare PVR-150 MCE OEM04:41
OpenMedia3. The PVR 150 MCE Kit with a USB remote04:41
thedrummeroh boy . .hahaah04:41
OpenMediaI'd go for 3 if the price is good04:41
OpenMediaThe remote is easy to setup with mythtv. its the one we use on mypvr.04:42
thedrummersweet. I'm going ot search for it.. so far, not much luck on google, but i'm sure it's out there04:42
OpenMediaSearching for it in stock, or for the drivers. Just hit up somewhere like newegg for stock details04:43
thedrummerit's about 89.99.. on newegg.04:45
thedrummeri'm poor.04:45
thedrummerlol04:45
thedrummermaybe i'll save money.04:45
thedrummerhaha04:45
OpenMediaWhat would you define as a cheap card then?04:45
thedrummer50 or 60 bucks04:45
OpenMediaIt is worth US$30 for the low pain associated with the card.04:46
thedrummerok. that's good to hear. I really appreciate your help by the way04:46
OpenMediaHey no worried. Been there. I have an old saa7134 based framegrabber card I never use any more as PVR-150 cards just work04:47
thedrummeryeah. that's some more confidence to know that the card can handle the processing04:48
OpenMediaOh seriously. Like under 1% cpu load. Just don't enable the VBI support.04:52
thedrummerwhat is VBI may i ask ?  :-d04:53
OpenMediaVertical Blank Interrupt, used to decode Teletext04:54
OpenMediaOh sorry. I should have said "Yes you may ask" first ;)04:54
thedrummerhahaah04:54
thedrummerthanks though04:55
OpenMediaYou building on feisty or mythbuntu?04:55
thedrummerI downloaded the Mythbuntu (feisty) ISO04:56
thedrummerso I think it's just pure Mythbuntu04:56
thedrummeri'm not ready to install it yet because i didn't buy any hardware..04:56
thedrummerdo you think my Radeon 9600 will work for the TV Output ?04:56
OpenMediaHmm ati tvout. Sorry I'm an Nvidia man04:57
thedrummermy Radeon 9600 has Vga  and DVI out04:58
thedrummeri just wonder if it would be compatible04:59
OpenMediaDVI -> TV should be OK. Thought you mean composite or SVideo05:02
thedrummeroh. no. I just bought a DVI to HDMI cable for about 5 dollars online.. I just wonder if it's real05:02
thedrummer:-d05:02
thedrummerthe website is  riteav.com05:03
thedrummerthe prices are unbelieavable05:03
thedrummerDO you honestly think it's worth to make a Mythtv setup for my home tv ?.. i mean. does it make tv that much more likeable?05:07
OpenMediahttp://www.mypvr.co.nz05:14
OpenMediaCouldn't live without it.05:14
thedrummerawesome. thanks05:30
superm1thedrummer, a few words of warning05:30
superm1the feisty ISO isn't good for a full install05:30
superm1completely unless you perform an update in the live env05:30
superm1( feisty mythbuntu iso )05:31
superm1some stuff was broken at alpha 1 announce05:31
thedrummeroh. ok. Which one, in your opinion, is stable?05:31
superm1thedrummer, if you want to try the gutsy ISO05:33
superm1just put it up yesterday05:33
OpenMediasuperm1: Did you organise somewhere to stay for UbuntuLive?05:37
thedrummerthanks. Saved me a lot of time05:37
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cdg52_hi05:49
cdg52_wtf it saying my nickname is not registered05:49
cdg52_o hey wtf05:49
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cdg52asd05:52
cdg52ahh all better05:53
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superm1OpenMedia, not yet.  I mailed imbrandon, as soon as he responds we can can get something arranged hopefully05:55
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ubotuNew bug: #90710 in qt-x11-free (multiverse) "mythtv crashes on exit with SIGSEGV in QApplication::~QApplication()" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9071010:53
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Mythbuntu Alpha 1: http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV"
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superm1good morning Daviey05:07
lagamorning05:07
superm1morning laga05:08
lagahow's life today?05:08
superm1busier than necessary as usual05:08
lagayup :(05:09
superm1keescook, I fixed a few of those bugs for mythplugins/mythtv and changed the versioning system this weekend to the style we discussed in the channel a few weeks ago.  I also added support to debian/rules to build the original .tar.gz.  Would you be able to look them over?05:37
superm1both are in the respective bzr branches05:37
keescooksuperm1: nice! I probably won't have time today, but should tomorrow.05:39
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kruulielo all06:52
superm1great keescook :)07:09
superm1thanks07:09
kruuliis there a way to search for a file in the terminal emulator?07:22
kruuli"grep -i -n " ^^07:31
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rogue780kruuli, you having unichrome issues?09:28
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superm1kruuli, i just got back11:46
superm1did you sort out your file finding issue in the term?11:46
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DaveMorris!logs11:49
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kruuliDaveMorris!11:52
superm1Hi DaveMorris11:53
kruulisince you are the unichrome  expert i have a question for ya :)11:53
DaveMorrisshoot11:53
kruulisince we did the install ive been unable to play movies .. i get "X11 error: BadAlloc" on everything11:54
kruulithink its about my shared ram11:54
kruuliadded alots of options to the xorg.conf with no luck11:54
kruuliand im recompiling the drivers as we speak :p11:54
DaveMorrishmmm11:55
DaveMorrisdoes mythtv work fine?11:55
superm1sounds like a problem with either Xv not being active11:55
superm1or not working11:55
superm1does the command11:56
superm1xvinfo11:56
kruuliDaveMorris nope no movies at all11:56
superm1work11:56
superm1?11:56
superm1can you pastebin its output11:56
DaveMorrishttp://parker1.co.uk/epia_ubuntu.php - you looked at the XcMC option in that doc?11:56
kruuliill try .. just reinstalled the driver11:56
kruuliyes DaveMorris11:56
kruulibeen googling the shit out of google .. and some people has this problem but its all old posts so its kinda wierd .. cant find any new stuff on it11:57
kruulisomething about a bug that always returns my ram to 0 for the player11:57
superm1kruuli, DaveMorris is openchrome open source?11:58
DaveMorrisyes11:58
superm1why isn't it packaged then for ubuntu yet?11:58
kruulihttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615111:58
ubotuFreedesktop bug 6151 in Driver/nVidia (open) "xv doesn't work with nv driver (at 1680x1050x24)" [Major,Resolved: fixed] 11:58
DaveMorrishttp://www.pastebin.ca/57517811:59
DaveMorrisis my device section11:59
superm1DaveMorris, so in doing apt-cache search via | grep xserver - there is xserver-xorg-video-via and xserver-xorg-video-unichrome12:00
superm1what are those?12:00
DaveMorrissuperm1 neither12:00
DaveMorrishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome12:01
superm1http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=About+openChrome12:01
superm1its a fork of unichrome12:01
superm1oh12:01
DaveMorrisunichrome is VIA's drivers12:01
DaveMorrisI belive12:01
superm1okay so from that h.u.c page12:02
superm1there are two branches12:02
superm1that need to be built12:02
DaveMorriskruuli: try setting this in the device section12:03
DaveMorrisVideoRam    [sizeofmemonry] 12:03
superm1okay this needs to be packaged for Ubuntu.  this is pretty ridiculous that its not already :)12:03
kruulialready done it :)12:03
kruuliill try the settings you posted12:04
kruulisuperm1 how do i copy the stuff from the terminal window that xvinfo spits out?12:04
kruuligot gedit now .. does it make a log file somewhere?12:04
rogue780kruuli, did you fix your unichrome issue? because if not I can tell you what to do12:04
kruulirogue780 no i have not fixed it12:05
rogue780ah12:05
rogue780what's really fun is getting unichrome + tv out to work well :)12:05
rogue780and, wow, windows NT 4.0 is fun12:05
rogue780fun fun12:05
kruulidont need tv out :)12:05
kruuliusing the vga12:05
DaveMorrisrogue780: I have openchrome and tvout working for PAL12:07
DaveMorrishad to patch the source12:07
rogue780DaveMorris, I had to find a random xorg.conf variable12:08
superm1kruuli, if you are using gedit, ctrl-a and then ctrl-c12:09
superm1and then open FF12:09
superm1and go to !pastebin12:09
superm1!pastebin12:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:09
superm1and then paste it there12:09
DaveMorriswhat board are you using?  I've got the epia EN1500, its actually over powered for a frontend :)12:09
rogue780holy flying donglberry! windows NT4 comes with IE 2.012:09
kruulisuperm1 yeah but how do i get the info from the terminal window? :)12:11
kruuliDaveMorris using the EPIA M 933mhz 256mb RAM (64 shared with the unichrome graphics card)12:12
superm1highlight it12:12
kruuliok12:13
superm1and then middle click to paste it12:13
kruuligraphics card is a Unichrome Apollo CLE266 EZRA to be more specific12:14
superm1DaveMorris, so is this still up to date info on h.u.c, that you need these two different branches?12:16
DaveMorrisI beleive so12:16
superm1that makes this a bit more of a pain to package up12:17
DaveMorrispersonally jsut support the main lot 1st12:18
kruulisudo12:18
DaveMorristhen package the others up as a seperate package12:18
superm1does this driver conflict with unichrome?12:21
superm1if its installed12:21
superm1considering its name is 'via'12:21
DaveMorrisit conflicts with the via driver, the unichrome package renames it to be unichrome12:23
DaveMorrisI suggest the same for an openchrome package12:23
superm1can you clarify that12:24
kruulihum get a blue screen now .. complaining about "generic monitor" is undefined12:24
superm1so the unichrome conflicts with the via package12:24
superm1so does openchrome?12:24
DaveMorrisyep12:24
superm1all 3 use the name via?12:24
superm1thats ridiculous.12:24
superm1is this the case for ubuntu packages too?12:25
superm1or just in general12:25
DaveMorrissuperm1 can you see if this patch still compiles aginst it, as it fixes TV-OUT for PAL (not my patch btw) http://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/rst_patch.txt12:25
DaveMorrissuperm1 http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xserver-xorg-video-unichrome12:25
superm1okay so perhaps when the openchrome packge is made,it should just be called openchrome12:26
superm1i see12:26
superm1good idea12:26
DaveMorriskruuli: can you pastebing the xorg log file12:26
kruulixorg.0.log right?12:26
DaveMorrisyep12:26
superm1DaveMorris, i won't be able to look right now, or nec today - but i'll look when i can12:26
superm1can you msg that link to superm1_12:27
superm1(me @ home)12:27

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