=== john_s [n=john@c-24-17-48-60.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:36] hello all-- any SAMBA gurus's on this list perchance [12:36] ? [12:38] I know one or two things about samba [12:38] what do you need? [12:38] I need to use ldap to store my samba/winbind backend [12:38] and I don't know how to migrate my accounts [12:42] Ah, what you'r looking for is moquists and trasks tool [12:42] Perhaps. [12:42] I've looked at it [12:42] but i don't think its a migration tool [12:42] I think its a "set up a bdc/pdc" type of thing [12:42] Does it do migration? [12:43] I thought so. [12:43] hm [12:43] Ok, I have an email into david. [12:43] Migrating from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow? [12:43] Well no, this would be like winbindsecrets.tdb and sam.tdb [12:43] I believe [12:44] ah, so migrating from windows. [12:44] I'd be lost there. [12:44] well, yes and no [12:44] When you use winbind to use Active Directory for authentication you get these little databases [12:45] like /var/cache/samba/winbindd_cache.tdb [12:45] and that is good. Now if you want to scale it to more than one server you need to make it a centralized resource [12:45] Samba docs say to use LDAP generally [12:46] Well, I'd expect there'd be some tool to extract info from the .tdb [12:46] Yeah, me to. That's sort of my question. [12:46] :-) [12:46] hmm [12:47] If anyone, Trask would know. [12:47] I'm sure he'll steer you right. [12:47] Ok, good. Well hopefully he'll shoot me an email. [12:47] He will, he's a great guy. [12:47] I appreciate your responses [12:47] Look for him here and on #ltsp [12:47] hurray! [12:47] he sometimes idles. [12:47] will do. [12:48] Thanks again. bye [12:48] bye === john_s [n=john@c-24-17-48-60.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #edubuntu [02:13] is there an edubuntu-lite? [02:14] there is a plan to create an xfce desktop, but nothing has come yet [02:14] cool === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.106.115] has joined #edubuntu [02:14] etank: You could create your own. [02:14] Start with xubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:14] i have 60 machines that i want to install edubuntu on and then donate to needy children [02:15] then just add the edu apps [02:15] my plan right now is to use an alternate cd to do an oem install and then create a ghost image to push to the other machines [02:15] but the machines are a little old [02:16] 500 MHZ, 512 MB Ram, 20 GB HDD === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] etank: 500mhz is plenty powerful enough for a thin client [02:22] but these are going to be give to individual families [02:22] thin client wont work [02:23] and i will have no way of knowing if the new owner will have access to the internet so i have to get all of the apps installed on there before giving them away [02:24] ahh [02:24] I used to use GNOME on 500 mhz [02:25] I used to use a ZX-81 at 1 mhz. :) [02:26] And before that, a real VT100 terminal. [02:26] From DEC :) [02:27] right [02:27] I feel young [02:27] I' [02:27] I'm 39 today! [02:27] :) [02:27] happy birthday :) [02:28] my first computer was a 100 mhz and the first computer I used was a 8086 of my fathers [02:28] Nothing like sitting on your birthday coding the next release :) [02:28] Wife's not feeling well, so I had to cook my own birthday dinner LOL [02:29] Got just what I wanted: Big juicy steak, baguette with oven roasted garlic butter, and corn on the cob. [02:29] Yum! [02:31] congrats [02:34] If I fix this bug, I will officially celebrate by going to the beer vendor, and grabbing some cold ones :) === sbalneav crosses fingers [02:43] sbalneav: hi grandpa [02:44] Hey sonny [02:44] heh [02:44] Burgundavia: i used to gnome on a P166 and it was butt-ugly [02:44] Speak louder, my ear-trumpet's blocked :) [02:44] jsgotangco: yep [02:45] Mandrake Linux was probably light-years ahead of the pack in terms of pretty distro packaging [02:46] wow, RH8 was not [02:52] breakfast brb === greg_g_ is now known as greg_g [03:30] Ooooohh [03:30] looking goood === sbalneav crosses fingers for the 5th time since he said it last === DeMoNSeEd [n=DeMoNSeE@bas1-sherbrooke40-1177557825.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:58] sbalneav: happy birthday [03:58] \o/ works [03:59] Thanks, LaserJock [03:59] Burgundavia: the Classroom Server Addon CD has XFCE4 === trisha [n=jake@203.115.185.14] has joined #edubuntu [04:03] anyone here knows how to activate fvwm95 x -window? [04:04] hey LaserJock === DeMoNSeEd [n=DeMoNSeE@bas1-sherbrooke40-1177557825.dsl.bell.ca] has left #edubuntu [] [04:04] hi jsgotangco! === john_ [n=john@pool-72-64-25-183.char.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === john_ [n=john@pool-72-64-25-183.char.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:15] For candidate modem in PCI bus: 03:09.0 [04:15] Class 0780: 14f1:2702 Communication controller: Conexant Unknown device 2702 [04:15] Primary PCI_id 14f1:2702 [04:15] Support type needed or chipset: hsfmodem [04:15] sorry - first time using this [04:16] but i do need help getting this internal modem to work - is 56k dial up [04:16] sbalneav: will there be a config option to set the ldm greeter in your implementation? I've been talking with gadi, and we think it would be a good idea. [04:16] Well, lets see. [04:16] I'm setting display options [04:16] sound options [04:17] localdev options [04:17] ... [04:17] Nope, sorry, run out of room in the code. [04:17] The only greeter will be in black and white. [04:17] :) [04:17] On my list :) [04:18] ogra wanted a QT greeter for K environs, GTK for gnome, and a "low resource" one if we have time. [04:18] So, yeah, customizable greeter program's a go. [04:19] Just haven't done it yet. Spent the last two or 3 days hunting down a nasty bug with pty's [04:19] john_: That a winmodem? [04:20] anyone here knows how to activate fvwm95 x -window? [04:20] Sure, just set yourself up a .xsession file. [04:20] in your home dir. [04:22] Have you installed fvwm95 yet> [04:22] ? [04:22] sbalneav: yah [04:23] sbalneav: but im still using ubuntu 7.04 as my distro [04:23] A quick bit of googling turned this up [04:23] http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~fvwm/manual/fvwm95.xsession [04:23] save what in your home dir as .xsession [04:23] mode 755 [04:24] Hmm [04:24] it ma [04:24] sbalneav: i dont get it [04:24] it may actually provide a session. [04:24] hold on, lemme look [04:25] sbalneav: you mean i have to copy paste the page and save it at home dir. [04:25] Doesn't look like there's a package for it. [04:25] How did you install fvwm95? [04:25] using synaptic [04:26] Hmm, I'm running gutsy here, and I don't see it. [04:26] ok [04:26] When you go to log in, does it show up in the sessions chooser? [04:26] yah [04:26] on the login screen? [04:26] yah [04:26] Oh, ok, then just select it. [04:26] and log in [04:26] what? [04:27] Just select that as your session, and log in [04:27] what should i select? [04:28] You said it showed up in the sessions chooser when you logged in. [04:28] So select fvwm95 [04:29] ok [04:29] i will log ogg [04:29] off === trisha [n=jake@203.115.185.14] has left #edubuntu [] === sc0tt [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === trisha [n=jake@203.115.185.14] has joined #edubuntu [05:12] how do i create shortcut on my desktop running fvwm? [05:14] how do i create shortcut on my desktop running fvwm? [05:23] trisha: you really should use google or something, we don't know how to do everything in fvwm [05:23] trisha: I believe you need another application, like rox, that puts icons on the desktop === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [05:31] trisha: fvwm95 is SO old, you may have a few troubles getting support for modern stuff. [05:31] Any reason why you want to use it? [05:32] it saves memory [05:33] How much memory do you have in this machine? [05:33] im running ubuntu distro 7.04 i only have 256mb and i still wanna use it in other application [05:34] I'm unsure whether he's referring to fvwm 2.[45] or the older fvwm95. [05:34] Oh, 256 megs? You've got lots to run Gnome [05:34] according to feedback it is still the best x-window [05:34] Which, fvwm95? [05:35] fvwm [05:35] Who are you getting this feedback from? :) [05:35] fvwm-crystal [05:35] ubuntu.org [05:36] Never seen it. [05:36] Well, if it works for you... [05:42] fvwm really? [05:49] trisha: openbox would be much better for you I think [05:49] nah, aewm. [05:49] or ion2 [05:50] actually, with 256MB of ram xfce4 should be fine [05:50] it's tolerable [05:50] crimsun: I tried those too, but I like openbox the best for minimalist WMs [05:50] I run full Ubuntu on a 1.3GHz machine with 256MB of RAM [05:51] it's not a minimalist WM. [05:51] it's very tolerable [05:51] crimsun: true [05:51] crimsun: it's a bit relative [05:52] compared to to Gnome and KDE it's pretty minimalist [05:52] do you mean metacity and kwin? [05:52] no [05:52] I mean Gnome and KDE [05:53] you can't compare entire environments to a window manager. It's trivially obvious that the latter class is "minimalist" to the former. [05:53] well yes [05:53] but that's what people compare too [05:53] "I'm running Ubuntu and I'd like something lighter" [05:53] I don't think it applies in this context given the discussion WRT "fvwm-crystal". [05:54] well, it seemed to me that the trisha was looking for something lighter than default Ubuntu [05:54] anyway, I understand what you're saying [05:55] sawfish rules you! === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@121.97.252.220] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:09] is sawfish good? === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2F08D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d4295a.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-169-201.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === joetheodd_ [n=joe@AC90F27F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.106.115] has joined #edubuntu === trisha [n=jake@203.115.185.14] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@30.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #edubuntu === eps_ [n=bender@220-253-87-152.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host223-216.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === hu [i=migi@nat/sun/x-abd886eaa0e36ad2] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === hu is now known as migi === hu [i=migi@nat/sun/x-f56b6c843cdac275] has joined #edubuntu === hu is now known as migi === andrea__ [n=andrea@host185-170-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:46] hi all [12:47] how do i set my dhcp server to only handle requests from eth1? === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2EDE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === garbat [n=emma@host139-53-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.7] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has left #Edubuntu ["A] === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] Morning all [04:08] Good morning, sbalneav [04:08] Morning SimonAnibal [04:08] sbalneav, How are you this fine morning? [04:09] Pretty good, seeing as how I fixed a bug last night. [04:09] Just waiting for ogra to confirm I squashed it :) [04:12] ogra: You there, big guy? === pips1 [n=philipp@dhcp13.hsz-t.ch] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@82.52.168.242] has joined #edubuntu [04:58] hmm..update-manager seems wonky on my Hancock server.."subprocess bzip2 returned error code 2".what is screwed up? [05:10] got it === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:22] sbalneav, its wonderful ... i discovered one other blocker though, it crashes on wrong passwords [05:22] i fixed the autologin mode as well [05:23] and added reboot and shutdown functionallity [05:23] sbalneav ROCKS [05:23] yeah [05:23] sbalneav, my T150 boots in 44 seconds :D [05:23] with frocing X configuration 51 [05:24] HOLY CRAP === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@30.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu [05:25] its the fastest ltsp5 ever and can cope with 4.2 now :) we'll have a looong list for ltsp in the release notes [05:25] Woohoo!!! [05:26] hello [05:29] \o/ === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host60-223-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu [05:45] Is someone know mobinet? [05:46] http://www-evasion.imag.fr/mobinet/ [05:47] ludoRA: don't know it, sounds fun though === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2EDE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:49] It's a research project [05:49] But linux developpment stopped for long time ago [05:49] Someone is going to restart it [05:50] The mobinet team would have a mobinet linux version for some distro === andrea__ [n=andrea@host126-124-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] I think that it could be a good idea have this soft on edubuntu [05:52] but I don't know how the developper have to make for this [05:52] "sorry for my english speaking" [05:52] is the source code available under an open source license? [05:53] yes === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-169-201.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [05:53] that helps :-) [05:55] for distributing an application as part of a gnu/linux distribution, you need to "package" the software... I hope I'm not stating the obvious to you :-) [05:57] but, they can't package it for all distribution [05:57] there is a defined process on how to do that for ubuntu... there are various different "groups" / repositories for software [05:57] no, they can't [05:57] where can I found this? [05:58] In many cases, the actual developers of a software don't do the packaging, but concentrate on writing the code :-) [05:58] Yes, I know [05:58] so, they have to find a packager [05:59] a packager that test this package on testing repositories [05:59] yes, that would be great [06:00] in general, there are two main types of packages for gnu/linux distributions: "rpm" and "deb" packages [06:00] where can I found a "manual" for integrate a new soft on edubuntu [06:01] but debian's .deb is not the same than a ubuntu's .deb [06:01] they are very similar [06:01] and use the same package format, it's just a matter of the environment they build on really [06:01] well, ubuntu has diveded their software into so-called components / repositories: main, restricted, universe [06:01] I know, but's it's not really right for fedora's and mandriva's rpm [06:02] introduction about ubuntu's components : http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components [06:02] no, .debs and .rpms are fairly different [06:03] ogra: Nice!!! [06:03] *sigh* that was the longes bzr push ever ... [06:03] Hey, did you try the 377 version of LDM? [06:03] although you can sometimes use alien to convert between them, but it's not perfect [06:03] sbalneav, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ltsp/scotts-gutsy-ogra [06:03] please merge the last two changes as soon as they show up ... [06:03] hokey doke [06:03] i'll put in the packaging changes to make ldm2 the default there as well [06:03] did that fix the keyboard stuff? [06:04] yeah, all fine now [06:04] AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA === sbalneav does happy dance [06:04] only the issue with the wrong passwords is left [06:04] ludoRA: LaserJock is a packager, so he will be able to tell you all about packaging :-) [06:04] heh [06:05] ogra: btw, will you be around for the TB meeting at 19:00UTC? [06:05] and the autologin needs some way to shut down the whole thing ... its quite odd that you have to hit the powerbutton to get out of the session [06:05] LaserJock: didn't you start this this mentoring thing? [06:05] LaserJock, today ? [06:05] if i'm needed i'll be there :) [06:05] ogra: yes [06:05] well, I haven't heard from the TB, but I assume my interview is today [06:06] great, i'll be there :) [06:07] wow [06:07] Laser do you need fan support ? [06:07] :-) [06:07] not sure [06:08] I think it's just supposed to be a short interview, I've already been approved by the MOTU Council [06:08] LaserJock: have you seen this application: http://www-evasion.imag.fr/mobinet/ [06:09] no, interesting [06:09] ludoRA: info about packaging: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New [06:10] LaserJock: is that page ^^^ relevant and up to date? [06:11] kinda [06:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation is good [06:11] ah [06:11] also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring [06:14] ogra: Keybuk is a little uncertain if there will actually be a TB meeting today, but if there is I'll be on the agenda [06:14] good [06:14] so I'll just ping you [06:14] i'll keep an eye on the channel [06:14] hmm, since you said it's probably more a formal thing (?), I might skip the fan part, if that's ok with you? :-) [06:15] you know i'm a fan :-) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [06:15] thanks for all this links LaserJock [06:16] ludoRA: if you need help with learning to package #ubuntu-motu is a great place [06:16] that application looks pretty cool [06:18] thanks LaserJock [06:23] ludoRA: just out of curiosity, have you looked at other linux distros? did you approach them too? or first here? :-) === jjanolo [n=jjanolo1@pool-71-105-110-117.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:28] first here [06:28] but I'm contacting debian too [06:28] at this moment [06:28] good to hear :-) [06:29] may I ask why first here? [06:29] and can I ask, did you find it difficult to find your way here? [06:30] my way to go to irc??? [06:30] yes, this channel :-) [06:31] no, i didn't [06:31] but, speaking english is very difficult for me [06:31] you are doing very well [06:31] I see. There are quite a few people around where English isn't their first language... [06:32] ... so you aren't alone :-) [06:32] besides that language, what do you find difficult? [06:33] it's very simple for me using all web applications [06:33] (sorry for all those questions - but I want to learn how we can make it easier for people to approach our project) [06:34] so, I had no difficulty for this [06:34] I'm on french Ubuntu site and irc [06:34] for few months ago [06:35] so how did you find this channel exactly? and why did you decide to approach edubuntu first? [06:35] ah, you know ubuntu first :-) [06:35] yes [06:35] i see [06:36] I were on ubuntu's french irc [06:36] ok [06:36] is it an active channel? [06:36] and I seen edubuntu canal in freenode list [06:36] ah, ok [06:36] yes, it's an very active channel [06:37] :-) [06:37] so, I'd prefer to post on #Kubuntu-fr [06:37] ;-) [06:37] there are less people [06:37] and questions [06:37] less than ? here? [06:37] less than #Ubuntu-fr [06:38] understood === pips1 counts 192 noses currently in ubuntu-fr [06:39] pips1 counts 34 noses currently in kubuntu-fr [06:39] yes === LaserJock wonders why pips1 is counting noses [06:40] I counted feet and divided by 2 ;-) [06:40] hehe [06:40] ah, scientists ;-) [06:41] well, if I was taking that approach: === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96099.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:41] I would use the laser to see how many people cross a specific line [06:42] and using the volume of the room and the average velocity of a human being in such a room [06:42] I'd come up with a 95% confidence limit on the probability that there were X number of people in the room === ogra hopes LaserJock doesnt mount it in eye height [06:43] LOL [06:43] ogra: good point [06:43] we try to avoid putting the laser at eye height at both standing and sitting positions [06:43] in my lab it's almost exactly at eye height when sitting :/ [06:44] pffft [06:44] unbelievable [06:44] well, we just don't sit that often ;-) [06:45] nobody of your height then? [06:45] ahh, right [06:45] but still [06:45] the table that the laser sits on is 2 ton stainless steel with massive legs [06:45] we can't do a lot about adjusting it [06:46] so we have stools that are a bit higher than a normal chair [06:46] like a bar stool === pips1 imagines Laserjock and a group of fellow laser scientists gathering around the 2 ton table... now, on 3, and a 1, 2, 3, ... [06:47] heave! [06:47] quick, get that book under [06:48] hahahaha [06:48] the legs alone are rather heavy [06:49] they are special to remove any vibration from earthquakes [06:49] hmm [06:50] so, in case of a big earthquake.. would you snatch yourself one of those legs and stand on top? === pips1 is obviously doing something very boring at his day job right now ;-) [06:51] heh [06:52] yeah, that's it. I better go now and get this *#! finished [06:52] :-) [06:52] see you! [06:53] geeze, I'm becoming a programming nerd [06:54] I read that as a #! and thought he was doing programming === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@30.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.7] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool51.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@30.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool51.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:36] -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42982.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:13] sbalneav: you using us.archive.ubuntu fopr updates? [09:13] Usually I do [09:14] sbalneav, shhh ... TB meeting in #ubuntu-meeting , LaserJock is going for core-dev maintainership [09:14] im having weird issues with libsexy and musicbrainz? seem to be there but wont fetch [09:14] ogra: Should I join? [09:15] dunno, seems already done , but if you want to cheer :) [09:16] holy smokes!!!! [09:17] I made it! [09:17] yay [09:17] finally === LaserJock hugs ogra === LaserJock hugs sbalneav === ogra hugs LaserJock === LaserJock hugs #edubuntu [09:17] :D [09:18] yippee!! === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [09:25] hi highvoltage, you that's really you :-) [09:28] (an interested person who is not a part of the project) congrats LaserJock [09:32] LaserJock: indeed :) === joetheodd [i=joe@ACA6E4F9.ipt.aol.com] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [09:52] greg_g: thank you === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2D7C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:58] MC wouldn't have recommended if you wouldn't have [10:00] LaserJock:so you moved up to the executive salary ? [10:01] heh [10:02] ogra: so what did i screw up updating to feisty? on ssh login -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied..lets me in after a ctrl-C just the same [10:02] cliebow_, if you said that with 'currency == bugs' in mind thats true :P [10:03] cliebow_, did you use update-manager ? [10:04] sounds like an udev breakage [10:04] ogra:i did until i started getting little squares instead of letters.. [10:04] that was from edgy to feisty ? [10:04] yeah, I've seen that with /dev/null not being 666 [10:04] i kept pushing the right buttons i think [10:05] i did 666 /dev/null and it went away til; reboot [10:05] yeah, seems udev has gotten something wrong there [10:05] should be an old udev bug about this [10:06] im gonna leave it til tomorrow i guess..getting woozy [10:06] freenx went south on me so i cant tell what is up without driving up there..so tomorrow itis [10:07] hmm, LP doesnt reveal any open bugs about that [10:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/83878 [10:08] Launchpad bug 83878 in udev "wrong permissions for /dev/null when /usr is a separate filesystem" [High,Fix released] [10:08] aha [10:09] i found something about /lib/udev/devices... === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:11] well, does restarting udev after boot fix it ? [10:13] rebooting [10:14] nope [10:14] which udev version is installed ? [10:15] 093-0ubuntu18 [10:15] should be something like 108-0ubuntu4 [10:15] so there you got your problem .... your upgrade didnt finish [10:16] yes i see that now [10:16] i cant get a gui without driving out..since nx is borked [10:16] so tomorrow it is [10:17] lsb_release -a <-- does that say feisty ? [10:17] 7.04 feisty [10:17] hm [10:19] bbiab === j1 [n=jsigurds@mimir.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu === ogra calls it a day === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@30.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === j1 [n=jsigurds@mimir.plus.com] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu