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kronos91qualcubno mi legge12:14
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Dexter_F!raid12:19
ubotuRaid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:19
Dexter_F!sensors12:19
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto12:19
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romudogHey guys! Hows it going today?12:20
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qwertzhelp: how to define X11_Xtest_Lib(ADVANCED)  ?? I have x11proto_xext_devel.. but that doesn't help12:23
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romudogsparr:hey12:26
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rathel__What file do I edit to add tuncfg too so that it starts at boot?12:29
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romudogkde?12:30
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romudograthel__: kde right12:30
rathel__romudog: Yes.12:31
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romudograthel__: put a bash/shell cmd in your .Autostart12:31
nosrednaekimrathel_what deos tuncfg do? do you want it to start on boot, or on login?12:31
romudognosrednaekim: LoL Hey! You hang here often?12:32
nosrednaekimromudog: yeah..  bit... why?12:32
rathel__nosrednaekim: It's needed for Hamachi, I keep forgetting to start it when I run hamachi, so I thought I add it when I login or boot the computer.12:32
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nosrednaekim*a bit12:32
romudognosrednaekim: LoL Just wondering saw ya yesterday!12:32
nosrednaekimrathel__: I keep forgetting the file that has things to run on boot...12:33
nosrednaekimbut you can put them in kde's autostart12:33
nosrednaekimromudog: yeah, i'm on frequently12:34
rathel__nosrednaekim: If I add it to KDE's autostart, It's needs sudo to run, how would I add a command like that? withouth prompting for a password?12:34
romudogI'm interested in learning that too.12:35
snakedoes anyone know something i can use to convert avi to mpeg12:35
romudogI do.12:35
romudogsnake: Use mediacoder or avidemux12:35
snakeromudog: i have avidemux but i do not know how to convert avi12:35
snakeany wiki please ?12:35
nosrednaekimrathel__: yeah, thats why you have to add it boot... I keep forgetting how.12:35
romudogsnake: Mediacoder is probably your best bet. I know the creator personally.12:36
snakeah ok12:36
snakethank you12:36
romudogsnake: I'll link you.12:36
rathel__nosrednaekim: Yeah I forgot too, I did it before along time ago.12:36
snakeok12:36
nosrednaekimlemme ask over in kubuntu-devel12:36
romudogsnake: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/12:36
romudogsnake: ffmpeg would also work but its too complicated for me because its console based.12:37
snakeromudog: thank you. trying now12:37
romudogsnake: Okay, Hollar at me if it doesnt work, You need wine for mediacoder unless the Linux vers has just been output. It runs perfect under wine.12:37
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Gerrit!smart12:40
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager12:40
nosrednaekimrathel__: ok, add your command to /etc/rc.local (courtesy of crimsun on kubuntu-devel)12:40
rathel__nosrednaekim: Okay thank ya.12:41
nosrednaekimrathel__: it wasn't me.. thank crimsun12:41
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rathel__Yup but still, you got the answer.12:42
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nosrednaekim;)12:42
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nosrednaekimGerrit: oh that looks interesting12:44
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matze!libdvdcss212:45
GerritI have switched from Fedora to Kubuntu, and I am already missing the installation-date field that rpm has but debian misses. It doesn't seem that smart can do that for me though.12:45
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:45
GerritDebian package manager seems to be more limited than rpm (I am not trying to troll, this is my impression at the moment)12:45
matzevery sad, very sad12:46
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matzewhat's the kubuntu text-editor?12:48
Arwenkate12:48
matzethx12:49
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nosrednaekimGerrit: ehh... I don't know. .Deb distros more than make up for it with their huge amount of available programs12:49
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LjLGerrit: more limited in what ways?12:50
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darkstarHello12:52
nosrednaekim'lo12:52
romudogCan someone assist me? I'm trying to install Google Earth and i get the following error: xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server (new line) xlib: No protocol specified12:52
darkstarI've tried to get kubuntu to see my windows network, but it says it's blocked by a firewall even though I haven't installed one.12:53
darkstarO12:53
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darkstarve tried installing Samba, but no luck.12:53
LjLromudog: use the package from medibuntu12:53
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darkstarAnybody?12:54
romudogLjL: It doesnt show up it gave me 404 when i tried and last time it did work it downloaded so slow at 10kbps12:54
romudogI'm also wondering why i get these errors, Ive gotten them with many programs.12:55
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nosrednaekim404 is an apache error12:55
nosrednaekimromudog: oh you mean the xlib ones.12:55
romudogW: Failed to fetch-http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_4.0.2735.0-0medibuntu2~edgy0.1_i386.deb12:56
romudog  404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 12:56
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LjL!medibuntu12:56
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org12:56
romudogi have them enabled though.12:57
LjLromudog: they've changed address, as you can see above12:57
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romudogLjL: It works when i http that link01:01
LjLromudog, in your sources.list, you have medibuntu.sos-sts.com as that error shows, but the *current* address is medibuntu.org, not medibuntu.sos-sts.com, so you'd have to change your sources.list accordingly01:04
LjLor just fetch it manually01:04
romudogLjL: its NOT medibuntu.org....01:04
romudogLjL: It states on their website not to use medibuntu.org due to them switching servers. the tell you to use that link.01:05
LjLromudog, in the repository howto they say to do  echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list 01:06
LjLso that seems very much like medibuntu.org (specifically, packages.medibuntu.org) would be the address01:06
romudogI understand that.01:06
romudogI just went to the website..01:07
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isthisnickvalid_hey I have a little problem01:21
romudog!ask01:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:22
romudogisthisnickvalid_:Whatcha need?01:22
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isthisnickvalid_I want to make the program "martian_dev" run at the beginning and then the command "ln -f /dev/ttySM0 /dev/modem run, after the firs command and in every boot, how can I do it?01:23
romudogisthisnickvalid_: Your better off than me cause i got big problems ;) Your lucky you only got a little problem some of us have issues with girlfriends...haha01:23
isthisnickvalid_lol01:23
romudogisthisnickvalid_: I dont know about bash that much but if your on KDE put the script in your .Autostart so like /home/USERNAME***/.Autostart01:23
isthisnickvalid_I'll have a look, thanks01:24
romudogisthisnickvalid_: No problem, Thats what im here for.01:24
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romudogLots of ComCaSt USeRz01:28
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BluesKajevening all :)01:29
romudogBluesKaj: Hey01:30
BluesKajhi romudog01:30
romudogsup man01:30
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isthisnickvalid_romudog: the app I am trying to use must be used under root...will I have problems or does autostart work as root?01:31
romudogI have no idea, I believe it starts as the user.01:31
BluesKajtrying to config permission to /media , "chmod 755 /media" doesn't seem to work...of course I'm still a bit in the dark about cmnds , so that's not too surprising :)01:32
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romudogBluesKaj: Don't feel bad. I've messed with Linux for a few years and i'm still clueless to how to use CHMOD in konsole.01:33
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BluesKajI dont wanna change users permissions , just my permissions cuz I'm the only user ...wifey still sticks to her old windoze01:34
romudogLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!01:35
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romudogDude...I abandoned windows yesterday..it HOSED...last time i ever use it.01:35
BluesKajher ood windoze pcc , that is01:35
BluesKajold01:35
romudoglol01:35
romudogWindows is a virus.01:35
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BluesKajhehe, i got scathed and flamed for asking a desperate windows question in here yesterday, on behalf of my poor 'newb to computers' daughter.01:37
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romudoglol01:37
romudogBluesKaj: If you need anything let me know im a pro when it comes to windows...01:38
BluesKajyou'd think i'd pi**ed their morning coffee:)01:38
romudogLoL!!01:38
romudogMan i cant get this dvd workin01:38
romudogAny ideas?01:38
nosrednaekimromudog: did you install libdvdcss2?01:38
BluesKajthe cursor on her toshibs laptop was frozen01:38
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romudognosrednaekim i used easy ubuntu to01:39
nosrednaekimromudog: and it doesn't play? any error message?01:39
romudognosrednaekim lemme go check synaptic real quick thanks for the pkg name01:39
BluesKajgotta have that libdvdcss2 :)01:39
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romudoghttp://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+b1_i386.deb01:40
romudog  404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 01:40
romudogArg can someone help me fix repos list?01:40
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nosrednaekimromudog: use the seveas repo for libdvdcss01:40
nosrednaekim!seveas01:40
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:40
romudogthx01:41
BluesKajromudog, http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php01:41
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GerritIs it possible to determine the install date of a package?01:42
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nosrednaekimGerrit: hmmm yeah... do you cache all downloaded packages?01:43
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nosrednaekimromudog: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb01:45
romudognosrednaekim It wont lemme start my package manager01:45
Kr4t05I just accidentally deleted some important files (Shift+Del). Is there any tool that can bring them back from the dead?01:45
nosrednaekimromudog: whats the error?01:45
Gerritnosrednaekim: I don't know if I do.01:45
romudognosrednaekim There is none sometimes it just locks up on the loading curson01:45
romudogcursor*01:45
nosrednaekimrun it from the konsole01:45
romudogi did01:45
nosrednaekimand.. no error?it NEVER loads?01:46
Kr4t05Help?!01:46
romudogYEah01:46
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romudogKr4t05: watcha need?01:46
Kr4t05See above.01:46
romudogOh01:46
nosrednaekimKr4t05: if that means "rm" nothing you can do01:46
romudogYEah there is01:46
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Kr4t05romudog: Yeah?01:46
romudogif it doesnt write over the sectors you can recover it01:46
nosrednaekimromudog: really?01:46
romudogbelieve me ive done it so many times..01:46
nosrednaekimromudog: try another package manager01:46
romudogfixed it nos01:47
nosrednaekimromudog: ho do you do it?01:47
Kr4t05romudog: What do I need to do?01:47
romudogNosrednaekim Do what?01:47
romudogKr4t05 Lemme go get the package name01:47
nosrednaekimromudog: recover things.01:47
romudognosrednaekim: You run a program that scans all your hard drive sectors.01:47
romudogNosrednaekim: Remember in Kgpg it had a feature called shredder?01:48
nosrednaekimromudog: never used that.01:48
romudogBut you remember it dont you?01:48
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romudogKr4t05 What type of file did you accidentally delete?01:49
Kr4t05romudog: Several of my movie backups.01:49
Kr4t05Most of them were AVI01:49
nosrednaekimromudog: i've heard of it01:49
romudogOkay your in luck01:49
romudogListen Kr4t05 Your best bet is to not write to your current hard drive it could delete the file permanently01:50
Kr4t05Eh...01:50
Kr4t05I have a Windows Vista partition.01:50
Kr4t05Is there anyway to do things from it?01:50
romudogyeah01:50
romudogSo this is windows?01:50
Kr4t05Or, should I break out the LiveCD?01:50
romudogor linux?01:50
romudoghttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download01:50
Kr4t05No, this is still Kubuntu, say the word, and I'll get my LiveCD out.01:51
romudogPhotrec is your tool you need, It should work.01:51
Kr4t05romudog: Right-o.01:51
Kr4t05Thanks.01:51
romudogIf it doesnt there is a tool i use that i bought and it does a great job.01:51
MaTiAzHey, is the support for Intel graphics chips any good in Linux?01:51
romudog...back in the windows days..haha01:51
romudogYeah01:51
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: excellent01:51
romudogBut no 3d accel i think01:51
romudogi could be wrong01:52
nosrednaekimromudog: no they allhave 3d accel01:52
romudogKr4t05 GL bro01:52
romudognosrednaekim Cool!01:52
nosrednaekimall open source too!01:52
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MaTiAznosrednaekim: Woah, that's awesome!01:52
MaTiAzIs bluetooth & WLAN fully supported too?01:52
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romudogPretty sure it is01:53
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: more or less, depens on your chipset and how much blood sweat and tears you put into it.01:53
MaTiAzAll right01:53
nosrednaekimif you mean intel wireless, yes it is01:53
MaTiAzYeah01:53
nosrednaekimintelis one of the easiest as well01:53
nosrednaekimfor wireless01:53
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MaTiAzI'm planning on buying a HP Compaq NX7400, Intel C2D T5600, 1GB DDR2 etc. :)01:53
MaTiAzSo I guess I can safely buy that one without needing to worry too much about Linux compatibility :)01:54
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: go to www.linux-laptops.org and look up that model01:54
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romudogMatiAz How much is it?01:55
BluesKajMaTiAz, one thing , make sure the graphics card is NOTan ATI !01:55
romudogomfg ATI Sucks under linux its HORRIBLE!!!!!!01:55
MaTiAzBluesKaj: It's an Intel01:55
MaTiAzromudog: 635 euros, not bad IMO01:55
nosrednaekimI hate ATI.01:56
MaTiAzAnd yeah, I've experienced ATI on Linux - far from pleasure01:56
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nosrednaekim635 EU...about $700?01:56
romudogMatiaz: Thats 1200USD give or take Why not buy from System7601:56
MaTiAzHmm, something like that01:56
BluesKajwell, that's a bit difficult to MaTiAz, but workable ...I think :)01:56
GerritGoodnight01:56
nosrednaekim$850... not bad.01:56
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nosrednaekimbye01:56
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romudog851.939 USD01:56
MaTiAzyeah01:56
romudogMatiaz yeah man HP Rips you off even with my handy dandy employee discount01:57
MaTiAz:\01:57
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romudogi had a laptop i retured it after arguing with them cuz the DVD burner didnt work and they sent me defective batteries which were recalled 2 wks later01:58
MaTiAzI could get an Acer for the same price with a bit better specs, but I'm definitely not gonna buy one of those01:58
MaTiAzlol01:58
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romudogApples run linux if you dont mine the no right click01:58
romudogand proprietary hardware..and ati..01:58
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: yeah I have an ACER with ATI, regretting it.01:58
MaTiAz:)01:58
romudogSystem 76 i was looking at...01:58
nosrednaekimromudog: some of them have nvidia01:58
romudognosrednaekim not the one i have01:58
MaTiAzI wish I had a new MacBook Pro01:58
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romudogMatiaz haha i just got one01:59
MaTiAzI heard the Geforce 8600 mobile is sick01:59
restagneri have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?01:59
romudogi have the ati one tho i have an intel mac before OLED01:59
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Kr4t05romudog: Okay, now in Windows.01:59
MaTiAzI was gonna buy a MacBook, but as it costs kinda much I thought I'd just get a regular PC laptop01:59
Kr4t05What was that link, again?01:59
romudogKr4t05 one sec02:00
romudoghttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download02:00
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: looks like that HP has some pretty good linux support02:00
romudogGot a USB Thumbdrive there?02:00
Kr4t05romudog: Yeah, 512MB02:00
BluesKajhehe, a buddy bought a HP with AMD 64 bit CPU , when he started it up at home , he ran into a dell windows home premuim vista OS ...bought it at future shop (owned by  best buy) here in Canada :)02:00
romudogdownload it and istall it to usb thumbdrive02:00
romudogjust to be safe Kr4t0502:00
MaTiAzBluesKaj: Haha, good luck :D02:00
restagnerMaTiAz: I just bought a Dell Inspirion. and am very happy with it02:01
MaTiAznosrednaekim: Good to hear :) Gotta see if I just replace the Vista Business with Kubuntu :)02:01
MaTiAzrestagner: What model?02:01
BluesKajhe got reimbursed fully02:01
restagnerthe 150502:01
Kr4t05romudog: Vista doesn't have access to my Linux partitions... :/02:01
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romudogMatiaz if i made enough money i'd pay people to switch to kubuntu just for the sake of it02:01
MaTiAz:)02:01
romudogKr4t05 I dont get it...What do you wanna restore...i mean what partition is it on?02:02
restagnerMaTiAz: it was priced VERY reasonable02:02
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: you mean, by HP?02:02
MaTiAzI've used Vista a bit, I prefer XP a lot more though02:02
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: yeah, why don't you go get one of those Dell Ubuntu lappys?02:02
romudogDell = Hell.02:02
romudogDont ever buy from the,.02:02
romudogthem*02:03
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: oh yeah thats right.. you are in europe02:03
nosrednaekim;)02:03
MaTiAznosrednaekim: Well, installing Kubuntu isn't such a problem anyway :)02:03
MaTiAzAnd yeah, I'm in Europe :)02:03
Kr4t05romudog: hda2 is my Vista partition02:03
Kr4t05hda3 is where the files in question where.02:03
romudogKr4t05 So why did you switch to vista?02:03
restagnerthat's what I got: the Dell ubuntu lappy02:03
nosrednaekimrestagner: is it nice?02:03
MaTiAzI like to do stuff myself instead of having it preinstalled02:03
restagnerVERY nice!!02:03
nosrednaekimMaTiAz: thats your masochistic right02:03
nosrednaekim:-D02:04
Kr4t05romudog: Because you told me to?02:04
nosrednaekimrestagner: did you get it with the nvidia card?02:04
restagnernosrednaekim: all in all it cost me about $90002:04
romudogKr4t05 I dont remember telling you to switch to it i just remember asking you which it was on..and all lol02:04
MaTiAznosrednaekim: Why? I've installed Kubuntu on three machines and it wasn't troubling at all :)02:04
Kr4t05...02:04
restagnernosrednaekim: yes I got the nvidia card02:04
Kr4t05Guh...02:04
romudogKr4t05 Wait02:05
nosrednaekimrestagner: was the nvidia driver installed by default?02:05
romudogKr4t05 You may be able to recover it from vista.02:05
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romudogKr4t05 Besides your safer on vista give me a minute to look this up.02:05
romudogKr4t05 Is your filesystem ext2 or 3?02:05
restagnernosrednaekim: Yes, but there were some issues with it via the factory default setting using Ubuntu.  So, I went about installing Kubuntu on it and it works great02:06
nosrednaekimrestagner: what kind of issues? I'm very interested in the dells for reccomending them to freinds and such02:06
Kr4t05romudog: 302:06
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romudogkr4t05 let me find you an ext3 driver for winblows lol02:07
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Kr4t05romudog: The only one I have is not supported in Vista.02:07
restagnerthe card appeared to be recognized, but there were some warnings presented.  i don't exactly recall, because i almost immediately removed Ubuntu and installed Kubuntu02:07
Kr4t05All the others suck.02:07
Kr4t05Hold on.02:07
nosrednaekimrestagner: ah, ok02:07
Kr4t05Let me get the Linux version, and use my Kubuntu LiveCD.02:07
romudogKr4t05 Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd or have you tried that?02:07
Kr4t05romudog: Yes02:08
restagnerTo all:  i have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?02:08
nosrednaekimrestagner: sure... its really pretty easy02:08
restagnernosrednaekim: please do share !!02:08
galathalionwhy aint my screensaver wokring?02:08
romudogKr4t05 Okay well then i suggest you use a LiveCD to minimize the possibility of writing over the deleted sectors and get the Photorec software installed to ramdisk02:09
romudogKr4t05 I'll be right back02:09
Kr4t05romudog: Okay02:09
nosrednaekimrestagner: go into system settings, printing, admin mode02:09
nosrednaekimthere?02:10
romudogkr4t05 back02:10
greg_g_nosrednaekim:  I am (I realized I wanted to do this also)02:10
restagnernosrednaekim: yes02:10
nosrednaekimrestagner: this is on the computer that has the printer attached02:10
restagnernosrednaekim: correct02:10
greg_g_nosrednaekim: yep ;)02:10
nosrednaekimok, up on the top of that window is a drop-down menu entitled "print server"02:11
nosrednaekimdrop it down and enable the print server.02:11
restagnernosrednaekim: i see it02:11
nosrednaekim"share printers on local netowork"02:11
restagnernosrednaekim: you mean select "configue server"02:12
nosrednaekimrestagner: do you have the printer already set up?02:12
restagnernosrednaekim: yes. an HP DeskJet02:12
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nosrednaekimrestagner: no. I mean select "share printers on local network"02:12
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: you with us?02:13
alexhello, how can i make beryl start automatically?02:13
greg_g_nosrednaekim: yep, got that done02:13
greg_g_nosrednaekim: is there a need to configure the server?02:13
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: you started it? and you have the local printer set up correctly?02:13
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: no02:13
restagnernosrednaekim: i select the "print server" drop-down, but i see "restart server" and "configure server".02:13
greg_g_"share printer..." is enabled and yeah, it is set up correctly02:14
nosrednaekimrestagner: thats odd, greg_g_saw what I see.... you're on fiesty?02:14
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nosrednaekimgreg_g_: lets wait for restagner.02:14
restagnernosrednaekim: actually, dapper02:14
greg_g_nosrednaekim: no worries02:14
Granthi02:15
nosrednaekimrestagner: I don't know how to do it in dapper02:15
greg_g_restagner: just to  make sure, your printer is in the main area with the other things like "mail pdf file" "print to file" etc?02:15
Grantwhoops02:15
nosrednaekimrestagner: sorry.02:15
restagnergreg_g: yes, what i see is my printer and then mail PDF file, Print to file, etc.02:16
romudogThere is a pdf server for windows its open source so probably works for linux too02:16
romudog"PDF Creator"02:16
restagnernosrednaekim: ok. thanks02:16
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nosrednaekimgreg_g_: on your other computer, add a printer, make it remote cups,02:16
greg_g_restagner: then yeah, must be something that was added after dapper (the option in that menu, I'm sure it is possible, just not the same way)02:16
nosrednaekimrestagner: look up a tutorial02:16
restagnernosrednaekim: any possible references . . . ?02:17
nosrednaekimrestagner: maybe try setting up the print server although i'm not sure what that does02:17
nosrednaekimrestagner: google ;)02:17
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:17
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: the other computer is not on right now, mainly because it is the gf's (who is out of town) and it is loud (yes, I am going to fix that)02:17
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: well, ok, its pretty easy, just follow that add printer dialog with the first choice being remote cups(IPP/HTTP)02:18
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: cool.. thanks a lot02:19
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: NP02:19
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Kr4t05romudog:02:20
romudogwelcome back02:20
Kr4t05How do I run this thing?02:20
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romudogKr4t05 Check the wiki02:21
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: and, btw, I did "configure server" after changing the verification from root to my username so I could actually do it.  Only changed the max log size just to make sure I could (wasn't sure since I used my login instead of root)02:21
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: ah.. is that how you get around that authorization problem.02:22
romudoghttp://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/photorec.html02:22
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: I guess, worked for me02:22
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: what is the deal with the root user on ubuntu/debian?02:22
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: doesn't for. me..:-/02:22
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: its ubuntu and its sudo stuff02:22
nosrednaekimno root user.02:22
greg_g_gotcha02:23
nosrednaekimuntil you enable it manually (which I do right away)02:23
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greg_g_nosrednaekim: I got an error dialog after using my username, saying somethings aren't recognized (or something) but the config dialog came up and I was able to change the max log size without an error (I think, haven't exactly verified)02:24
nosrednaekimhm02:24
greg_g_nosrednaekim: so, since you have root enabled you are able to get to that config ok or not?02:24
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: nah, I can't with root either which is rather weird02:25
greg_g_nosrednaekim: very weird... so, is that a launchpad-able bug?02:25
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nosrednaekimgreg_g_: I don't know and don't really care.. haha Oh I know why. I don't have the server enable on this computer.02:26
greg_g_heh02:26
nosrednaekimthats WOULD do it..02:26
nosrednaekim*that02:26
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Kr4t05romudog: Er... We have a problem.02:27
romudogWhat is it Kr4t05?02:27
Kr4t05I don't have enough space for all the recovered files.02:27
greg_g_the error: "Some options were not recognized by this configuration tool.  They will be left untouched and you won't be able to change them"02:27
romudogKr4t05 Thats not good02:27
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: thats not the error I get02:27
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greg_g_"defaultauthtype = Basic" "require = user @OWNER @SYSTEM" "order = deny,allow" "="02:28
greg_g_all of those on separate lines02:28
nosrednaekimhm IDK02:29
greg_g_yeah, that is the error I get after I use my u/p and before the config dialog comes up02:29
romudogKr4t05 I have a portable hard drive for things like that and about 5 spare HDD's02:29
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greg_g_yeah, very weird02:29
romudogWriting to that partition could delete some of the files though.02:29
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AutoMatriXhello, world :D02:30
greg_g_nosrednaekim: the change of max size for logs stayed what I edited it to, so it must "work" whatever that means in this semi-broken way02:30
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: yep.02:30
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nosrednaekimgreg_g_: so maybe you can show restagner how to set his server up from your configure server. window02:31
greg_g_nosrednaekim: hmm, maybe02:32
greg_g_restagner: you still here?02:32
nosrednaekimrestagner: you still around02:32
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nosrednaekimguess not.02:33
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intelikeyhowto, read the cmos clock from linux ?02:35
intelikeythe "rtc" ?02:35
greg_g_nosrednaekim: all of the settings in the config dialog seem like "defaults" as in, where is the CUPS folder etc02:35
intelikeynobody ?02:37
greg_g_sorry02:37
coloniahey, how can I kill adept?, I mean, I was trying to use Automatix but it says adept still running (I already closed it)02:38
Dragnslcrcolonia- you can kill processes from KSysGuard02:38
intelikey!automatix02:38
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:38
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nosrednaekim!adeptfix | colonia02:39
ubotucolonia: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:39
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Kr4t05romudog: I'm going to give this the white flag. I'll just have to remake my backups or download what I no longer have. I paid for it once, I see no reason to do it again.02:40
coloniaI'll try, thanks02:40
nosrednaekimgreg_g_: ah ok02:40
Kr4t05ro02:40
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Kr4t05romudog: Thanks anyway.02:40
romudogKr4t05 Good luck!!!02:40
greg_g_launchpad question: Is "rejected" the right option to select if I want to cancel a bug, as in, it seems to no longer be reproducible on my computer, and never was on anyone elses02:40
romudogKr4t05 Google linux recovery tool see if you can find any better02:40
cWolfegoogle makes a linux recovery tool?02:41
romudogSorry i cant resist but yelling out a derogatory...02:43
romudogNo...Google is a search engine..02:43
romudogGoogle reffers to the term of searching for...02:43
romudog:|02:43
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Dragnslcrgreg_g_- Dunno about Launchpad, but any decent bug tracking system should have an option/resolution for unable to reproduce02:43
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greg_g_to answer myself: after some more looking (yes I looked before I asked) it seems that Rejected is the right option and that they are considering renaming that option to a less "emotionally changed" word like "declined" or "invalid"02:45
DragnslcrUsually there's a slightly more descriptive option too, such as "not a bug" or "duplicate"02:51
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darkrift_q: when watchign a movie in kaffiene, i only hear audio in one side of the headphones02:52
darkrift_anyone know how to check/fix that?02:52
greg_g_darkrift_: check your mixer first, the speaker icon in the tray02:53
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greg_g_the horizontal slider on the bottom is balance02:54
coloniaWhats the name of TLS package who is needed to install in order to run amsn?02:54
greg_gdarkrift_: is that slider "centered"?02:55
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KoRNeTohi02:56
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K-RyanHi guys03:01
K-RyanHow do I check what process is using my sound?03:01
K-RyanAnyone?03:02
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K-RyanAnyone know how to check what process is using my sound?03:04
K-RyanOkay, how about terminating a process that needs root?03:05
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K-RyanWhy's it so quiet in here?03:05
K-RyanNobody?03:08
K-Ryan8 minutes and nothing?03:08
K-RyanNobody has anything to say or ask?03:08
K-RyanPlease?03:09
K-Ryan!terminate03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about terminate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
K-Ryan!kill03:09
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:09
K-Ryan!processes03:09
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K-Ryan!process03:09
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K-Ryan12 minutes!03:12
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K-RyanCan nobody tell me how to end a process that uses root?03:13
K-RyanOr how I can check what processes use my sound?03:13
Jucatosudo killall <insert process name here>03:14
Jucato(be careful with what you kill)03:14
K-RyanYes of course03:14
K-RyanThank you oh so much Jucato03:14
K-Ryanmy console is definitely mocking me03:15
K-RyanI ctrl+esc and I see hl.exe03:15
K-RyanPID 713803:15
K-RyanSo I "sudo killall 7138"03:15
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JucatoI said process name, not process ID (PID)03:15
K-RyanAnd get "7138: no process killed"03:15
K-RyanOh03:15
ubuntu___?03:16
K-RyanThe one I heard about used PID03:16
Jucatoyou didn't hear it from me03:16
ubuntu___the book on the table ?03:16
ubuntu___books *03:16
ubuntu___XD03:16
K-RyanI assumed process name meant PID03:16
K-RyanBad move on my part =P03:16
rohowhen i run adept, it now tells me there is a new version of kubuntu available and wants to know if i want to upgrade.  could someone point me to a page that will tell me what i can expect with the upgrade? like what problems, etc.03:16
DragnslcrHm, is there any way to reload the taskbar without restarting X?03:16
K-RyanSo the process name would be hl.exe right?03:17
K-RyanBecause it doesn't work03:17
JucatoDragnslcr: "dcop kicker kicker restart"03:17
K-RyanThe command works, but the process is still there03:17
Jucatokill wine or wineserver.... why the hell is a windows app running as root?03:17
K-Ryanerr03:18
K-RyanTo be honest I'm not sure03:18
K-RyanBut I needed sudo to get wine to be able to open an executable03:18
K-RyanBtw, the process is still there.03:18
Jucatono03:18
Jucatoyou shouldn't need to use sudo w/ wine at all03:19
DragnslcrJucato- eh, that didn't have quite the effect I was hoping for (compiled taskbar-compiz to try to get rid of "show windows from all desktops")03:19
K-RyanI'll try it again03:19
K-RyanBut I just need to figure out how to get rid of it atm03:19
JucatoDragnslcr: running compiz/beryl? that doesn't work03:19
JucatoK-Ryan: if wineserver is running, kill that03:19
DragnslcrWhat doesn't work?03:20
Jucatodisabling "show windows from all desktop"03:20
K-RyanIt doesn't seem to be running, I'll check again though.03:20
DragnslcrYeah, and that's what the special taskbar-compiz version is supposed to fix03:20
K-Ryanwineserver isn't running03:21
K-RyanWhat if I restart X?03:21
JucatoDragnslcr: try asking around in #ubuntu-effects how to make it work. as for just restarting kicker without restarting KDE or X, you have the answer03:21
DragnslcrYeah, I'll probably just try restarting X03:21
K-RyanAlright I managed to get rid of one03:22
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rohowhat kind of problems can i expect if i want to "convert" from ubuntu to kubuntu?03:24
K-Ryanhow can i open up the process table from the console?03:24
Dragnslcrroho- if you're familiar with KDE, probably none03:24
rohosweet03:25
DragnslcrIf you've never used KDE, the typical learning experience03:25
rohojust hanging out here and playing around with K apps has sold me.03:25
rohoalthough i found a couple bugs03:25
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AshexThis is total retardation03:29
Ashexgconf is causing my system to randomly reboot/freeze up03:29
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waltercool!webcam03:32
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:32
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waltercoolsomeone can recommend me a good app for webcams?03:32
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splottanyone alive in here?03:35
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splottobviously not.03:36
splottobviously I should just go away and stop talking to myself.03:37
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rohoheh03:37
Ashexwaltercool: I used to use camstreams03:39
waltercoolis qt :S03:39
Ashexhmmm, I should stick my tortellini in the freezer...03:40
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ashnjahello all03:42
ashnjai have a laptop that is using a d-link pcmcia card03:42
ashnjakubuntu detects it and uses atheros... but i do not get near the connectivity that (the OS that shall not be named) gets...03:43
ashnjathat is not the bad part... the bad part is that it drops connection like every 5 minutes... something else that does not happen in..... you know what...03:43
ashnjahow do i get kubuntu to use ndiswrapper and not the restricted module?03:44
Ashexashnja: find out what the module is named, and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist03:44
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ashnjait is currently using atheros03:45
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ashnjaso i edit blacklist and add atheros03:45
Ashexi believe so03:46
ashnjaAshex: once i do that... how do i go about getting ndiswapper operational and loading upon reboot03:46
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Ashexsudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper03:49
Ashexndiswrapper -i driver.inf03:49
Ashexsudo ndiswrapper -m03:49
Ashexthat'll install ndiswrapper, load the proper driver, and add it to modprobe03:49
Ashexalthough, check up on a guide for your wireless chipset03:50
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AshexI'm not exactly a wireless guru03:50
navetswhere do I go for html help?03:50
Ashexubuntuforums.org has a lot of good info03:50
navetsk thx03:50
Ashexalong with the ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:51
Ashexhowever, you should try googling it too, use your chipset in conjuction with the word ubuntu03:51
ashnjathank you very much for your info03:51
Ashexso, for example, I have a broadcom 4316, so I'd google for "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu"03:51
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Ashexor more specifically, "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu ndiswrapper" to look for ndiswrapper info specifically03:52
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Jucato!wiki03:52
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.03:52
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vlad88porque nadie habla? XD04:06
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waltercoolporque esto es en ingles po noob04:09
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NickPresta!es | vlad88 waltercool04:10
ubotuvlad88 waltercool: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:10
vlad88thanks, I did not know it.04:10
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Levi_Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?04:13
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Levi_Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?04:13
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vlad88How can I set the "home" extra button in the keyboard to open the default browser?04:15
vlad88"Calculator" works fine opening speedchrunch04:16
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nosrednaekimvlad88: what does the web browser button open?04:16
vlad88etc. but "home" just does nothing, neither Konqueror, nor Firefox (which is my default browser)04:16
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vlad88it does nothing04:17
nosrednaekimvlad88: run "dmesg"04:17
nosrednaekimthen press that key once04:17
nosrednaekimthen run dmesg again. see if it added some new output.04:18
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vlad88nop04:19
vlad88nothing new04:19
nosrednaekimvlad88: what does the last line look like?04:20
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vlad88"[ 7312.492801]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 4"04:20
nosrednaekimvlad88: ok, cool04:20
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nosrednaekimvlad88: that means its detected as a keypress by the os.04:20
nosrednaekimnot as a random ACPI event04:21
nosrednaekimso start up system settings04:21
vlad88yes04:21
vlad88(does it matter that I pressed around 5 times after that a not new message appears in dmesg?)04:22
Ashexanyone know of a note taking app like tomboy for kubuntu?04:22
nosrednaekimAshex: basKet04:23
nosrednaekimvlad88: it means your kepress is detected as a keypress :)04:23
Ashexah, thanks nosrednaekim :)04:23
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nosrednaekimgo to keyboard&mouse04:23
nosrednaekimkeyboard shortcuts.04:24
nosrednaekimcommand shortcuts04:24
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nosrednaekimfind your webbrowser04:24
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nosrednaekimvlad88: got there?04:25
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estebanbianchihello04:26
vlad88nosrednaekim, yes thanks04:26
estebanbianchianybody_04:26
vlad88the key was: XF86WWW04:26
nosrednaekimvlad88: ok04:27
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nosrednaekimhello04:27
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, howdy04:27
ArwenI need a newer version of a package than the one in the repositories, what should I do?04:27
nosrednaekimvlad88: so it works?04:27
estebanbianchiim running i this moment a feisty live c04:27
estebanbianchii-d like to install but i cant04:27
nosrednaekimArwen: what package?04:27
Arwenmplayer04:27
nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: why not?04:27
vlad88nosrednaekim, yes it's working :), Thank you. btw. this is the preferred way of doing this?04:27
nosrednaekimvlad88: yep!04:28
estebanbianchicause when it starts the proceces iut stops in 15%04:28
Arwenso? any thoughts?04:28
nosrednaekimvlad88: at least I think it is.04:28
hitmanWillyArwen, you could always download the newest one from sourceforge04:28
estebanbianchii tried with ext2 and ext304:28
nosrednaekimArwen: it should be safe enough, search around on google, you can ussually find one04:28
vlad88As in Windiws that key is redirected to open the default program for html... anyway, its works, and works fine. Thanks.04:28
ArwenhitmanWilly, nosrednaekim, yes, I could build it myself, but that would bork apt wouldn't it?04:28
hitmanWillyArwen, i think taht's where mplayer is hosted04:28
ArwenhitmanWilly, hint: sourceforge hosts *sources*04:29
nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: you might have to get the alternate installer.04:29
jacqueschinese irc?04:29
nosrednaekimArwen: you can build it as a deb and then install it.04:29
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estebanbianchiand..that probelam might be caused for...04:29
hitmanWillyArwen, not if you remove the current one through apt first04:29
nosrednaekim!ch04:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:29
Arwennosrednaekim, the question is how...04:29
Arwen!cn04:29
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:29
nosrednaekimArwen: its really quite easy. there are tutorials.04:29
Arwennosrednaekim, oh? and please don't say checkinstall. That screws up all the dependencies.04:30
estebanbianchiand whats the diference betwen regular and altenate nosrednaekim04:30
hitmanWillyArwen, i think its make_kpkg or something similar...but don't quote me :)04:30
Arwenestebanbianchi, regular is a live cd that you can test the OS with. Alternate is a true installer with all the options you'd expect.04:30
nosrednaekimArwen: I haven't done it in forever, I don't know if checkinstall was one of the steps04:30
nosrednaekimand its a bit more stable04:31
Arwenlink to a guide? because debian packaging is a pain in the ***04:31
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estebanbianchilike ubuntu breezy04:31
Arwenum, hate to break it to ya, but Breezy is dead.04:31
estebanbianchiwell i might install the old ubuntu 5.10 and downoload the kub freezy04:32
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Arwenfreezy? lol04:32
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Arwennosrednaekim, so, get any links?04:32
nosrednaekimbreezy is not going to play well with new hardware04:32
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, the alternate cd is a more traditional style linux installer...uses ncurses vice X if im not mistaken04:32
Arwengod damn it, compiling should have a progress bar!04:32
estebanbianchibut i will to install via console_..o i will have options?04:32
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, and gives you more detailed install options04:33
Arwenyes. lots of them.04:33
nosrednaekimArwen: it was a long time ago, i'm sorry. it was a tutorial on how to build amarok form source.04:33
Arwenheh...04:33
nosrednaekimArwen: KDE4's does...cmake does it for you04:33
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Arwenit always scares me when gcc returns all these warnings... makes me feel something's actually broken :-\04:34
nosrednaekimArwen: heh, fatal ones are.. the... fatal ones..lol04:34
Arwenone of the things I hate most about debian packaging is compiling an app... and then noticing that everything's ruined because of a bad line in debian/rules ..04:36
vlad88what's for debian/rules?04:36
Arwenit's a makefile that describes how to compile an app04:36
Arwen!packaging | vlad8804:36
ubotuvlad88: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports04:36
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vlad88nice, I'm going to read it, I'm kind of newbie in this, so many new things :p. thanks for the link Arwen04:38
estebanbianchican i make downloads with the livecd?04:38
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zoohouseHello everyone04:41
Arwensince it's late and nobody's here, any anime freaks here? :-P04:41
zoohouseI want to run winxp in a vm but I don't know which to choose. Which would be better Xen or VMware?04:41
nosrednaekimzoohouse: vmware04:42
Arwenzoohouse, how new is your processor? I'd go with vmware.04:42
zoohouseWhy vmware?04:42
Arwenit's better (tm)04:42
vlad88lol04:42
zoohouseheh04:43
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Arwendang, ffmpeg compiles slow..04:43
estebanbianchiback04:43
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Arwenestebanbianchi, yo04:43
vlad88wait, talking about ffmepg, how can I compile it with 3gp support?04:43
nosrednaekimzoohouse: its just more polished04:43
vlad88I tried it around 15 times04:43
zoohousek04:43
vlad88:(04:43
Arwenvlad88, 3gp is the same thing as mp404:43
zoohouseill give it a shot04:43
zoohousethanks04:43
estebanbianchii made a cuestion before the crash...04:44
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estebanbianchican i start the altenate cd download with the livecd?04:44
estebanbianchior may i install a real os04:44
estebanbianchi?04:44
Arwenestebanbianchi, you won't have anywhere near enough RAM to cache that. Don't bother.04:44
Arwenbut you can use the LiveCD to install the OS, yes.04:44
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, you'll need to mount some kind of writable drive to save it to04:44
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estebanbianchii have mi hd04:45
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estebanbianchibut i better install the old breezy04:45
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, how is it formatted? ntfs or something else?04:45
estebanbianchii think in this moment  its ext304:46
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estebanbianchilet me check04:46
Arwenick, subpixel aa makes text hard to read on a CRT04:46
hitmanWillyoh, wait, can you burn a cd if you're on a live-cd?04:46
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hitmanWillyshould be able too...just keep the OS in memory...04:47
ArwenhitmanWilly, only if you have 2 drives04:47
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Arwenand an assload of RAM04:47
NickPrestahitmanWilly, you should be able to if you have two CD drives04:47
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NickPrestaArwen, what are you compiling?04:48
vlad88Arwen, an easy way to add mp4/3gp support to ffmpeg?04:48
ArwenNickPresta, VLC this time04:48
Arwenvlad88, it should already be there04:48
Arwenif not, get medibuntu's build04:48
Arwen!medibuntu04:48
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org04:48
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, ok, you'll need to reboot to a os on the hd to burn the cd anyway...sorry :(04:48
estebanbianchiwell i have a awap partiot04:48
NickPrestaArwen, out of curiosity, why are you compiling VLC?04:48
vlad88nice, thanks!04:48
estebanbianchiand a lot of free space04:48
ArwenNickPresta, because I want to be on the bleeding edge04:49
Arwenalso, Ubuntu's VLC is half-assed04:49
hitmanWillyi think it has all its internal support for proprietary codecs compiled out...legal issues04:49
NickPrestaArwen, ah okay. Makes sense. I, too, compile stuff at times for bleeding edge. What does the newer version of VLC have over the repo. version?04:49
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ArwenNickPresta, bugfixes. But the reason I'm compiling is for DMO/win32 support04:50
estebanbianchimay i format the free space in a specific filesistem in order to be recognised by the livecd_04:50
Arwenalso, since VLC is statically linked to ffmpeg, I need to do this for new decoders04:50
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Arwenestebanbianchi, filesystems don't have free space04:51
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hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, the live cd will mount any recoignized partiton type just fine, you just have to do it by hand04:51
NickPrestaArwen, oh neat. I really wish there was a bleeding edge repo. that contained apache/php/perl/mysql/etc. I was thinking of becoming a package manager and setting up my own repo, etc but I don't have the time.04:52
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estebanbianchiso..what is the console commnd to mount a hss_04:52
Arwenyeah, I don't have the bandwidth, but I have lots and lots of time :-)04:52
estebanbianchihdd?04:52
Arwenestebanbianchi, "mount"04:52
estebanbianchii have to be run as sudo>04:52
estebanbianchi?04:52
Arwenyes04:53
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, sudo mount -t <filesystem_type> /dev/<hard_drive> <mountpoint>04:53
NickPrestaArwen, well, I have the time to do it but I have the time to compile it for myself and such but to make the package, make sure it works for everyone else, etc, etc is too time consuming. It really would be nice though. That is a project I would donate to since I always have to compile my own web. dev. environment.04:54
hitmanWillyestebanbianchi, inserting appropriate values in the <>04:54
estebanbianchioh, thanks hitmanWilly04:55
vlad88There's any real improvement in compiling your own kernel?04:55
Arwenvlad88, depends what you're looking for04:55
Arwenperformance improvement? probably not unless you're doing some heavy duty stuff.04:55
NickPrestavlad88, my stance on that has always been: if you have no specific reason to roll your own kernel, don't bother.04:55
hitmanWillyvlad88, yes, but its not worth it for ubuntu04:55
vlad88nice04:55
vlad88hitmanWilly, why not for Ubuntu?04:55
Arwenbasically, you run into tons of problems with custom kernels since Ubuntu's kernels have all kinds of tweaks04:55
Arwennonstandard ones at that04:55
hitmanWillyvlad88, its a real pita to roll your own for ubuntu, and it gets killed on the next kernel update anyway04:56
vlad88:O04:56
Arwenalso, if you have ATI, your graphics card won't work with a kernel past 2.6.20 :-)04:56
vlad88nah, I have a crappy Unichrome Pro (P4M800), using Openchrome drivers04:57
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Arwenunichrome? as in black/white?04:57
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vlad88haha04:57
vlad88that's monochrome I think04:57
vlad88well04:57
vlad88actually your'e right04:58
ArwenYES! IT WORKED!04:58
ArwenLOL04:58
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Arwenso you have a monochrome video card?04:58
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hitmanWillyArwen, :) good for you04:58
ArwenhitmanWilly, hehe, I'm not done yet... now I have to pray debian/rules isn't b0rk3d04:58
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Arwenand... it is04:58
vlad88[20:58]  <Arwen> so you have a monochrome video card? => no! LOL04:59
Dr_willisCGA mode!04:59
Dr_willis:)04:59
hitmanWillyArwen, you could always just make install it...04:59
NickPrestaOut of curiosity, has anyone used the Action Replay DS's software on GNU+Linux?05:00
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vlad8820:59]  <Dr_willis> CGA mode! => lol05:00
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Arwennoooo.... my ascii art video drivers are missing!05:01
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vlad88hahaha05:01
hitmanWillylol05:01
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vlad88XD05:02
hitmanWillyArwen, i think you have to compile that into the kernel :P05:02
Arwenyeah, somehow VLC compiled with aa disabled.... irritating..05:02
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Dr_willisyea AA is such a IN demand feature!:)05:02
hitmanWillyArwen, you may have to play around in its make.conf...05:03
Arwenyeah, it's not a big deal, but still...05:03
ArwenhitmanWilly, it's weird though, I'm using Ubuntu's default config05:03
Arwenit should be on05:03
Dr_willisi seem to recall that working once in ubuntu for me05:03
Dr_willisover ssh even05:03
Dr_williswas playing with mc. and some how started a video. :) was watching Porn in Ascii Art05:04
Dr_willisI was all confused05:04
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hitmanWillyor if you even can...05:05
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leomcabralAny one know a tool for recording the desktop?05:07
vlad88does anybody know of Autocad working over Wine?05:07
NickPrestaleomcabral, I really like RecordMyDesktop05:08
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Dr_willisvlad88,  ive never had any luck in that.. over the last 5+ years. :) not tried a recent autocad lately however05:08
estebanbianchiwell i might leave05:08
NickPrestaleomcabral, it is provided by the 'recordmydesktop' package. You want a frontend though - 'gtk-recordmydesktop' is slightly better than 'qt-recordmydesktop'05:08
estebanbianchii love the comunity05:08
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estebanbianchithey never let me alone05:09
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estebanbianchithanks guys05:09
leomcabralNickPresta: it did not work to me, when I try to playback the ogg file kaffeine shows a blue screen05:09
Dr_willisleomcabral,  sounds like you may be missing a video codec to play the video.05:09
vlad88Dr_willis, do you think Bricscard can replace Autocad in Linux?05:09
leomcabralDr_willis: its a ogg file, I thought I had the codec05:10
mneptokleomcabral: URL?05:11
Dr_willisvlad88,  never used that one. I only have minimal cad needs these days. Been using qcad mainly05:11
hitmanWillyleomcabral, ogg is just a container...not a media type05:11
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leomcabralhitmanWilly: so what codec recordmydesktop use05:12
leomcabral?05:12
hitmanWillyleomcabral, probably theora05:12
leomcabralmneptok: I did not get it!05:12
vlad88Dr_willis, any good 3d cad you know?, nothing professional, just for homeworks and so05:12
hitmanWillyleomcabral, that's the usual video type stored in ogg format05:13
leomcabralhitmanWilly: Kubuntu did not come with it?05:13
Dr_willisvlad88,  no idea there. I aint needed 3d in ages..05:14
hitmanWillyleomcabral, should have....05:14
leomcabralhitmanWilly: what's the package name?05:14
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leomcabralhitmanWilly: libtheora0 is installed05:15
leomcabralhitmanWilly: i'm trying to install libtheora-bin05:15
hitmanWillyleomcabral, hmmm, maybe the capture app isn't working right for you then....05:15
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NickPrestaI can't even playback my desktop recording ([xv]  Source image dimensions are too high: 3360x1040 (maximum is 2046x2046))05:16
leomcabralhitmanWilly: I can playback it well on MPlayer (it tells me i have a missing codec as well)05:16
vlad88Any Calc better than SpeedCrunch?05:17
hitmanWillywait, does it save it as xvid?05:17
vlad88I tried xmaxima... but after Derive it (xmaxima) seems pretty old05:18
hitmanWillyor is the [xv]  something else?05:18
leomcabralhitmanWilly: don't know!!! But i can see xvid movies here, so i have the codec05:18
leomcabralhitmanWilly: I missed it, what is [xv] ?05:19
hitmanWillyleomcabral, might be an issue with xine...you can probably change kaffeine to use mplayer05:19
leomcabralhitmanWilly: I know xine have it05:19
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hitmanWillyleomcabral, from NickPresta's error msg05:19
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NickPrestait's an Ogg Theora video.05:20
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hitmanWillythat's what i thought...the xv thing threw me for a sec there....05:20
Dr_willisid say try vlc from the terminal , or some other player. see what sort of info they spit out.05:20
hitmanWillyyeah, same here...05:20
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leomcabralhitmanWilly: I can play with kaffeine now, i changed xine video driver to xshm05:21
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leomcabralit was in "auto"05:22
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ubuntu__will kubuntu wwwwork with 1680-1050 and look ok05:23
leomcabralhitmanWilly: i have to do the same thing to get videos working in kaffeine with beryl05:23
leomcabralps.: I'm not using beryl now05:23
NickPrestaubuntu__, yes, Kubuntu looks fine at 1680x1050. I use that resolution for many months.05:23
hitmanWillyubuntu__, yes, use that setting myself05:23
Arwenhmm, yeah, too b0rk3d to use05:24
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estebanbianchihey is any possibility to uninstall th ksnapshot...i have the impr pant button to close to the delete button..and i activate the snapshot frecuently05:24
darwin81I have a 250GB HDD and I want to install Kubuntu on it. I have 20GB for a Windows partition and the rest for Ubuntu. I want to give about 10GB for the Kubuntu install. What is the best way to do this? (I know I can install KDE in GNOME, but that makes things cluttered)05:24
CadaverPimpdarwin81: I have a 500GB hdd with 120GB to winxp and the rest to KUBUNTU. Minus 4 GB for SWAP. I have KDE, GNOME and XFCE all rolled into one. Cluttered? Hardly05:26
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morph_hello all05:27
DaSkreechestebanbianchi: I guess you could change the button that calls it to ctrl+PrntScrn05:27
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estebanbianchioh thanks DaSkreech05:27
draikdarwin81: I don't know, that's just me05:27
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morph_I just installed openoffice on 7.04 and when I start writer it has no graphics05:27
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morph_anyone know why?05:28
morph_is there something missing05:28
fabioasjFala Galera e ai05:28
DaSkreechmorph_: You installed OO.o?05:28
morph_yes05:28
fabioasjestou procurando um brasileiro05:28
DaSkreechShouldn't it be installed by default?05:28
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DaSkreech!br05:28
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:28
fabioasjsim05:28
morph_I removed it05:28
fabioasjportugues05:29
morph_uninstalled05:29
morph_couldnt start it with kiba dock05:29
morph_thought it was not installed correctly05:29
hitmanWillymorph_, doubt its a dependency issue, apt/adept should automagically pull those in on install05:30
DaSkreech!pt05:30
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:30
DaSkreech:-)05:30
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DaSkreechmorph_: try installing the OO.o KDE support05:30
morph_all oo.o programs have no graphics in gui05:30
morph_ok trying now05:31
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vlad88good night, thanks for all!05:32
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darwin81draik, Well do you know what I can do to do what I asked?05:32
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draikPartition Magic if doing it from winxp or QT Parted if done from Kubuntu05:33
darwin81Can I just set aside 10GB of free space and tell the Kubuntu installer to use the largest free space?05:35
ardchoilledarwin81: Yes, you can create a partition and tell the kubuntu installer to use that partition for the install.05:35
darwin81How would that affect GRUB? Could a separate Kubuntu install use the same swap space as Ubuntu?05:37
ardchoillegrub will find your other installs and add them to the menu05:37
DaSkreechdarwin81: that's not a lot of space and yes it will use the same swap space05:37
ardchoilleNot sure about swap partitions.. I don't think I've ever used mine.05:38
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DjDarkmanHy, no mather what I do amarok won`t play mp3`s, what should I try?05:38
Dr_willisdarwin81,  swap parittions can be used by all the disrtos.05:38
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darwin81I just wanna try out Kubuntu with a fresh install. I think 10GB would be enough.05:38
DjDarkmanI have another system, that plays mp3`s just right with the same setup05:38
crimsunDjDarkman: is libxine1-ffmpeg installed?05:38
DaSkreechDjDarkman: did you install MP3 support?05:38
darwin81Also would that mean that mean I would have to edit the GRUB files in the Kubuntu install instead?05:39
DjDarkmanahhh this was the problem05:40
Dr_willisubuntu/kubuntu installs ive see - are good in finding all the other disrtos and setting up grub for them05:40
DjDarkmanyou should update the faq on kubuntu.org05:40
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DjDarkmanit`s information that it diplays is no longer relevant05:40
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DaSkreechDjDarkman: installing libxine-extracodecs still works05:42
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DjDarkmanDaSkreech: no it will not, maybe it`s dependencies are not set up right05:42
darwin81Are there only DVD's available for BitTorrent?05:47
DaSkreechno05:47
DaSkreechall images have a torrent file05:47
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thevAmarok can move data back and forth from my MTP device, no problem.  Anyone have any idea how I can browse it in konqueror?05:58
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vecinaum... how come pressing 'backspace' when i have the shift key held down logs me out?06:02
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crimsunit doesn't here.06:03
vecinaYes, it does. anywhere.06:03
vecinao.O06:03
vecinait -didnt- but now it does06:03
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DaSkreechvecina: Sure your alt or ctrl kes aren't stuck ?06:04
Dr_willisThats a GLX thing...06:05
Dr_willisi do belive.06:05
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Dr_willisberyl/glx/whatever ya call it.06:05
vecinaoops i just did it06:05
vecinagah06:05
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vecinano they're not stuckk, because when it does this it just logs out to a blue screen and i have to press 'ctrl-alt-backspace' to get to the login06:05
darwin81Is there a better way of checking MD5SUMs other than just looking at them?06:06
vecinaShift and backspace should not do anything. i saw no mention in the keyboard shortcuts06:06
Dr_willisthe md5sum command has some optons06:06
Dr_willisvecina,  i recall it being some special 'exit' sequence for the fancy 3d  stuff thats in glx/beryl06:06
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Dr_willisIts not a kde/gnome shortcut. but one for the beryl window manager06:07
Dr_willis!beryl06:07
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:07
vecinaWOAH! loading up KDBus did the same thing06:07
vecinawhats going on06:08
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DaSkreechShift backspace is a beryl bug06:08
vecinaDaSkreech: well i just installed beryl06:09
vecinaDaSkreech: However, beryl is not currently activated and its still doing it06:09
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DaSkreechvecina: press alt+space06:09
DaSkreechwhat do you get ?06:09
vecinaDaSkreech: katapult06:09
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DaSkreechhmm ok06:10
vecinaDaSkreech: my dbus viewing program did the EXACT same thing06:10
DaSkreechfar as i know that's a beryl bug taken from Compiz06:10
vecinaits not the same as ctrl-alt-backspace.06:10
ubuntu__!video06:10
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications06:10
ubuntu__!video card06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
DaSkreechright I know what you are talking about but it's from beryl. there is a an easy fix for it06:11
ubuntu__!videocard06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about videocard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:11
DaSkreechYou just have to disable the shift+backspace key combo06:11
vecinaDaSkreech: thats nowhere in the beryl settings06:11
DaSkreechvecina: I know :-P that's why it's a bug and not a feature06:12
vecinaDaSkreech: Erm... so what do i do?06:12
DaSkreechvecina: you could ask in #ubuntu-efffects06:12
vecinaalright...06:13
DaSkreechthe fix used to be in gconf-editor for compiz06:13
DaSkreechas far as i know in beryl they uncoupled that and you can just put in a file. I don't know the name of the file though06:13
darwin81Can I compare the contents of a CD to an ISO file?06:13
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rathel__hmm... Kopete doesn't seem to be saving my settings automatically, I'm trying to hide the "Formatting Toolbar" but everytime I reopen up the Chat window is back.06:14
DaSkreechdarwin81: sort of. but ...06:14
DaSkreechdarwin81: if you have already burnt the CD it has a CD check on it06:15
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vecinalol, it's actually a "Feature" of xgl. a developer thought ctrl-alt-backspace was too hard and shift-backspace made mroe sense06:16
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Dr_willisim trying to figure out how all these people accidently hit shift-backspace :)06:16
Dr_willislike one guy i saw complaining about a bug that Ctrl-PrintScreen locked up his pc all the time.06:17
Dr_willisits a debugging the kernel feature. :)06:17
thevWhy does the save dialogue in Firefox look like Gnomish, instead of KDEish?06:17
rathel__lol What's shift-backspace do?06:17
darwin81Dr_willis, What does that do? Because now I'm tempted to do it06:17
thevas does the scroll bar... :/06:17
DaSkreechrathel__: kill the session06:18
rathel__DaSkreech: kewl.06:18
Dr_willisdarwin81,  it enableds the serial terminal debugger I belive.06:18
ubuntu__whats the command for hardware log?06:18
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Dr_willisdarwin81,  so if you had a serial terminal on the serial port - ya could get info off it.06:18
DaSkreechthev: It's a Gnome app?06:18
darwin81Daskreech, as in restart X?06:18
Dr_willisdarwin81,  for Kernel Debugging mainly I hear.06:18
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DaSkreechyay Vista06:19
darwin81sarcasm?06:19
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Dr_willisMy wife likes vista.. because she has a "8-ball" sidepanel applet :)06:20
DaSkreechwell no. It won't lock up for Ctrl+Print screen06:20
Dr_willisand a lights out game06:20
DaSkreechI can get it to reboot on command though :)06:20
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  it may be disabled by default now a days. :)06:20
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  make a user called 'halt' that has a shell of /bin/halt :) and no password..06:21
Dr_willisdid that once so the wife could shut down the linux box from the login: prompt. years ago heh.06:21
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DaSkreechsu halt06:22
AlphaClusteranyone here that can help me get a sata drive recognized06:22
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rathel__I'm having an Issue with Samba Server I think I set it up correctly, When I do \\(ip address) in Windows and I type in my Username and Password, I get "is not accessible. You might not have permission.. blah blah"06:23
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Dr_willisrathel__,  well #1 - did ya make a user have a smbpasswd with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?06:23
Dr_willisrathel__,  also you did install the samba server packages?  you did enable the Home shares in the smb config file? (and then restarted the service)06:24
Dr_willisThats about the 3 steps i always seem to do. Not sure if the smbpasswd is needed under feisty any more06:24
rathel__Dr_willis: hmm... lol no, I just went into the "Sharing" in the System Settings part.06:24
Dr_willisrathel__,  that 'way' does not enable the full samba. thats a web/interface i THINK.06:25
Dr_willisI never use that 'way' :)06:25
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Dr_willisso i may be wrong.06:25
mrbrdoguys, has something been changed regarding to wlan in feisty? after i upgraded from edgy i started having problems with madwifi-ng, i create my dev in monitor mode but the mac address of the new dev is wrong. didn't happen in edgy :S06:25
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rathel__Dr_willis: I enabled homes in the config, now how would I restart it? lol06:30
Dr_willissudo /etc/rc.d/samba restart06:30
Dr_willisor similer06:30
Dr_willistheres some other nicer command. but i forget what it is06:30
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Dr_willis       \\ip.add.re.ss\youruser (MIGHT) work for ya.06:31
Dr_willis       \\ip.add.re.ss\home  might also.06:31
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Dr_willisthe homes share is special and is uspposed to go to the users home dir. but some times it gets confused06:32
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rathel__Dr_willis: It's working now, and I didn't restart it. :X06:32
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Dr_willis i always enable write permission to the shares as well06:33
Dr_willis!info samba-doc06:33
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB06:33
Dr_willissamba-doc has several guides/books in Html format. thats good for reading06:34
rathel__Okay, thank's I'll check it out.06:34
rathel__I'm downloading the samba-doc now, how do I access it when it's finished? lol I newb.06:35
Dr_willisit puts some docs some where.. use the package manager to see what it isntalls where06:36
Dr_willis - /usr/share/docs/SOMTHING is my guess06:36
jacquesubotu> how can I connect to french irc?06:36
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Dr_willis!fr06:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:36
rathel__Aw yes the package manager... somehow I forgot about that.06:36
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jacques_hi there06:43
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bryanHey guys/girls, can anyone help with this? Im quite honestly pretty desperate right now: Did a clean install of Ubuntu on my Macbook (well, friend did), Ubunu runs fine, but I REALLY need OS X back right now, and my Macbook refuses to boot from the Apple install DVD, which I know is fine.....?06:48
bryanI get a "Cannont mount" error message?06:48
DaSkreechbryan: can you type in df -h on the command line and pastebin it06:49
DaSkreech!paste | bryan06:49
ubotubryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:49
bryanooops, haha, sorry about that06:49
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bryanwhat happens after I paste?06:52
DaSkreechyou will get a URL paste that back in this chan06:53
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bryanand, I apologize in advance for any horribly noob questions, Ive run Linux on my Mac boxes for a while, but virtually, this was a 1st hard install, ok, ill get the url06:53
bryan? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26220/06:54
bryani hope thats correct :)06:54
DaSkreech"=_06:55
DaSkreech:-)06:55
crdlbbryan, you're rebooting with the cd in the drive?06:55
bryanyeah, as normal, Ill take my "noob" comment, Im quite proficient in OSX, and Im rebooting my MB as usual, "C" to boot from the drive06:55
bryansimply not working? And when Im in Ubuntu, and insert the install DVD, I get a 'cannot mount volume" error message06:56
DaSkreechbryan: ha ha :)06:56
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DaSkreechare you in Ubuntu now?06:56
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bryanyeah Im in Konversation now06:56
DaSkreechbryan: ok open konsole06:57
bryanhaha, ok ok, well, noob as far as Linux hard installs go, of course, and this, to me at this point, is a huge problem haha06:57
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bryanwell, ill restate, im using Konversatio in Gnome, so, just open the terminal im gueeins? :) haha, dont kill me06:58
DaSkreechtype in df -h and copy the output into paste bin :) give us back the URL for that one06:58
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DaSkreechcertainly06:59
bryanok done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/06:59
bryanthe funny thing is, after I get OS X back, im 100% going to make this MB a dual boot with Ubuntu or Kubuntu haha, its been a looong day, but, I still am enjoying Linux, haha07:00
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bryanlove/hate at the moment:)07:00
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codymani have an athlon xp 1600+ w/ 768 mb ram & nvidia 5500 fx ... i'm loving kubuntu and its interface... but I am getting not the greatest performance out of simple kde actions such as windows opening / closing etc. .. I know my system is older but is this normal for my specs?07:02
DaSkreechHow big is your hard drive?07:02
Daisuke-Idohttp://xkcd.com/c278.html07:02
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bryanusually in OSX about 72GB avail07:03
bryan80GB drive07:03
bryanwhen Ubuntu was installed from the LiveCD, the whole disk was used, "guided installation" if thats a factor07:05
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Dodger73yello07:06
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DaSkreechcrdlb: you know macs?07:07
crdlbnope07:07
Dodger73is there anyone here who knows a little about the intricacies of fglrx under feisty?07:07
Dodger73i can't seem to get it to work... :/07:07
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bryandamn haha, Im striking out, its an Intel Mac if it matters...07:07
Dodger73crdlb: cool :) willing to help me out a little?07:07
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Dodger73ah nm07:08
crdlbDodger73, ok what's the output of fglrxinfo?07:08
Dodger73ok07:08
codymanwho needs help with a mac07:08
Dodger73here it is:07:08
DaSkreechbryan: well.. uubuntu takes up about 72 GB according to this07:08
bryanwow07:09
Dodger73crdlb:  X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)07:09
Dodger73Major opcode of failed request:  128 (XFree86-DRI)07:09
crdlbDodger73, that sounds like you're using vesa07:09
bryanis there any reason though the Apple install disc shouldnt be mounting? or bootable?07:09
Dodger73no, using fglrx in xorg.conf07:09
crdlbDodger73, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:09
crdlband what ati card do you have?07:09
crdlb!pastebin07:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:09
bryani read some docs on the etc/fsatb folder, but, for some odd reason, I have no fsatb folder07:10
DaSkreechbryan: it's a file07:10
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DaSkreech /etc/fstab07:10
bryanyeah exactly07:10
bryannot even there?07:10
Dodger73crdlb: on it07:11
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Dodger73crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26223/07:11
DaSkreechnot even there what?07:11
bryanwent to places>computer>etc> and theres no fstab07:11
Dodger73also, it's a X1900xtx PCI-e07:12
bryanis that the wrong directory?07:12
DaSkreechthere should be07:12
Dodger73feisty 32-bit07:12
DaSkreechcan you check again07:12
bryanyeah07:12
DaSkreechplaces -> filesystem -> etc i think07:12
Dodger73everything works fine except 3d accel - i get the aforementioned dri error07:12
bryanyeah: places>computer>filesystem>etc07:13
bryanno fstab07:13
Dodger73and when i run with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa, opengl apps run, but seemingly with software rendering and dog slow07:13
hitmanWillybryan, find /etc -iname 'fstab' in a console07:13
crdlbDodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log too07:13
Dodger73all of it or just the EE/WW?07:13
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hitmanWillybryan, see if it returns anything07:13
bryanok let me check07:14
Dodger73crdlb: all of it, or just errors and warnings?07:14
crdlbDodger73, the whole thing07:14
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Dodger73crdlb: sec07:15
bryanbash: /etc: is a directory07:15
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bryanto: HitmanWillly and DeScreetch, thats what i get?07:16
Dodger73crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26224/07:16
wolferinewhat is the difference between sudo su - postgres and su - postgres07:16
wolferinedoes sudo su require my 'root' pass, where as the other requires my user 'postgres' pass?07:17
bryansorry if Im doing somethting wrong in terminal, I copied pasted that code, and I got that bash07:17
DaSkreechwolferine: one will ask for a password one will ask for your password07:17
wolferineDaSkreech, you mean what I said?07:17
DaSkreechwolferine: yes what you said07:18
bryanbash: /etc: is a directory    also returned that07:18
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crdlbDaSkreech, it might be related to: (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  Could not create dummy context but I really have no idea07:18
hitmanWillybryan, ok, you probably left off the find cmd07:19
bryanhaha, of course07:19
DaSkreechcrdlb: Sorry?07:19
crdlbDaSkreech, pastebin the output of: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo07:19
bryancan you post the code i should copy in? ill just copy.paste if thats cool07:19
wolferineno07:19
Dodger73DaSkreech: he means me i think  ;)07:19
wolferine!pastebin | bryan07:20
ubotubryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:20
Dodger73crdlb: sec07:20
hitmanWillyfind /etc -iname 'fstab'07:20
DaSkreechDodger73: I hope so :)07:20
hitmanWillybryan, ^^07:20
Dodger73crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26225/07:20
hitmanWillybryan, all that does is search in /etc for files named fstab07:21
bryanok07:21
bryangetting the 'no such file or directory'07:21
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crdlbDodger73, I've got no idea, did it happen even with the driver in feisty's repos? xorg-driver-fglrx?07:22
Dodger73yeah07:22
hitmanWillybryan, cd /etc && ls | grep fstab07:22
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Dodger73and then i tried every howto under the su07:22
Dodger73n07:22
Dodger73and envy07:22
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DaSkreechhitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/07:22
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bryanHitManWilly - aplogies: I got this :07:22
bryanfind: /etc/ssl/private: Permission denied07:22
bryan/etc/fstab07:22
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bryancd /etc && ls | grep fstab07:24
bryangot that after the cd/etc && command07:24
Dodger73crdlb: well, thanks anyway :)07:24
bryanhaha, am I transferring a headache to you too? sorry07:24
hitmanWillybryan, ok, fstab is there....07:25
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bryanoh, ok ? well good to know, just not visual07:25
hitmanWillybryan, try sudo nano /etc/fstab07:25
bryanok07:26
hitmanWillybryan, does it come up with a blank file or is there text in it?07:26
bryannope, theres text07:26
bryani was going to paste it like before07:27
hitmanWillybryan, please pastebin the contents of fstab if you would07:27
bryanok no prob one sec07:28
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bryanhimanWilly>     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26226/07:29
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frietz#cakephp07:30
se7enis there a tool that can syncronize (only cp new files) between 2 hdd?07:30
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hitmanWillybryan, ok, so you want to mount the install DVD right? try mount /media/cdrom007:31
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: You know this is the Mac DVD right?07:31
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bryanyeah, Im trying to re-install OS X from my Tiger install DVD, is that what I should do?07:32
bryanI also have the Tiger install CD's07:32
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bryanif thats a factor07:32
hitmanWillybryan, oh, wait....hold on a sec...07:32
bryanhaha ok no worries07:32
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bryanI can use the CDs as well if thats the pron07:33
bryanprob*07:33
hitmanWillybryan, ok, so are you trying to wipe out ubuntu and reinstall OSX?07:33
hitmanWillybryan, or set up a dual boot?07:33
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bryanI want to fresh install OS X for now, yeah, wipe out, only OS X on this07:33
wolferineis there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?07:34
hitmanWillybryan, ok, just scrolled up and read the initial prob again...07:34
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bryanok07:34
Dodger73crdlb: ok, so i uninstalled the proprietary driver and re-installed the ones from the repos07:34
unclephreakgeez, how many people are in here and how many bots?07:34
Dodger73now i get mesa with glxinfo07:34
bryanyeah, basically, Im just trying to install OS X, fresh, on whole HD, no dual boot07:35
hitmanWillybryan, i really don't know much about OSX, but this sounds like a problem with it...07:35
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bryanyeah, this isnt good right now, worst possible timing07:35
Dodger73and a GLX error with fgl_glxgears07:35
bryanI mean, if I can even do a dual boot machine right now, thats acceptable07:35
wolferine!postgresql07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
wolferine!psql07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
bryanif thats my only resort07:36
crdlbDodger73, sudo modprobe fglrx07:36
hitmanWillybryan, i would say try with the cd's as it might be an issue with the dvd drive booting07:36
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Dodger73crdlb: ah ok, wasn't loaded - restart the x server after that?07:36
hitmanWillybryan, other than that, try in #apple or #osx or someplace like that07:36
crdlbDodger73, yeah try that07:36
Dodger73thx :)07:37
bryani did, the CDs have the same problem, wont boot, and when I insert the CD or DVD in Ubuntu, I get that "cannot mount volume error"07:37
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bryanoh ok07:37
bryanso, well, not to sound pushy, but,  is that as far as we can go here?07:37
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hitmanWillybryan, that really sounds like an osx error, not an ubuntu one...sorry07:37
hitmanWillybryan, that's about as far as i know...zero experience with macs07:38
bryanok cool07:38
Dodger73crdlb: ok.. same thing. fglrx kernel module is now loaded - still mesa and the glx error with fgl_glxgears07:38
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bryanwell, honestly, I REALLY appreciate the help!07:38
bryanill see what I can find out07:38
crdlbDodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log again07:38
bryani dont care if I have to dual boot, thats ok too07:38
DaSkreechbryan: try ##apple07:39
bryanok07:39
Dodger73crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/07:40
wolferineis there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?07:40
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crdlbDodger73, (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.07:41
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Dodger73well darn07:41
roothell-o07:41
crdlbsomehow the intaller's fglrx kernel module didn't get removed07:41
Dodger73but i've got linux-restricted-modules and xorg-driver-fglrx from the repositories installed07:42
Dodger73shouldn't that be the two packages i need?07:42
crdlbyes07:42
crdlbDodger73, what's in your /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ?07:42
Dodger73crdlb: DISABLED_MODULES=""07:42
Dodger73just checked that.. first thing i thought ;)07:42
talon223what's the easiest way to de-clutter kde...i'm coming from gnome and possibly going back because there's just..too much stuff...i've even opted to not show my gnome apps and it's still too much...07:42
talon223any scripts that clean it up or what?07:43
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crdlbDodger73, well what if you: sudo modprobe -r fglrx && sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx ?07:44
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Dodger73went through without an error - i should probably restart x again to see any effect?07:45
crdlbyeah and if that doesn't work, you may want to try to find the installer's fglrx module07:45
crdlband remove it07:45
Dodger73ok07:46
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Dodger73thanks a lot - i appreciate the help!07:46
Dodger73brb :)07:46
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Ryiel!chroot07:51
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box07:51
Daisuke-Idoah, fun with cron jobs07:52
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Ryielnot what i was looking for... :(07:52
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Ryielguys i wanna chroot into another linux, how to mount it? I don't remember... mount -o ? or what?07:57
hitmanWillyRyiel, is it on the same drive?07:57
Ryielyep, same drive. I remember mounting /proc and /dev but thats all i can remember :)07:58
hitmanWillyRyiel, or to put it another way, mount the other install and chroot <mountpoint>07:59
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Ryieljust chroot it? No need to mount /proc and /dev?07:59
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!07:59
hitmanWillyRyiel, i don't believe so08:00
DaSkreecheveryone isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?08:00
MilhousePunkRockI am trying to connect my Laptop to my brand new shiny NSLU2, which is going to be "unslung" to a nice little debian server today08:00
Ryielthanks hitmanWilly08:01
hitmanWillynp08:01
MilhousePunkRockIt's hooked up with a crossover cable, I wonder why it would not let me connect to the web interface, or even ping it08:01
hitmanWillyRyiel, or if you're really worried about chroot then mount -a08:01
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hitmanWillyRyiel, if the other install is set up properly, it should then mount everything in it's fstab08:02
MilhousePunkRockDaSkreech: ;)08:02
hitmanWillyRyiel, including proc and dev08:02
RyielhitmanWilly: its not properly installed atm i just wanted to work on it :)08:03
hitmanWillyRyiel, ok :)08:03
Ryielmount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc && mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev <-- A friend just told me this but it does not work... :(08:04
hitmanWillyRyiel, lemme guess, mount point not empty or some such thing, right?08:05
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hitmanWillyok, later all08:07
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lordofthepigsHello!08:12
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lordofthepigsI'm trying to compile kdesvn on my Kubuntu feisty08:12
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lordofthepigsbut it complains that it cannot find the KDE3_INCLUDE_DIR environment variable08:13
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lordofthepigsI'm obviously missing some header package, but I can't find which one08:13
Daisuke-Idouh08:13
Daisuke-Idowhy?08:13
lordofthepigsdoes anybody know which one that could be?08:13
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Daisuke-Idowhy are you even compiling it?08:13
lordofthepigsBecause the version in the repositories is outdated.08:14
DaSkreech!info kdesvn08:14
ubotukdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3608 kB08:14
Daisuke-Idodoes it still work?08:14
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Daisuke-Idodoes the new version have some "must have" feature?08:14
Daisuke-Idojust asking the common sense questions here08:14
Daisuke-Idobecause...08:14
lordofthepigsHonestly, I dunno... :)08:14
Daisuke-Ido!worksforme | lordofthepigs08:14
ubotulordofthepigs: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:14
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DaSkreechlordofthepigs: try the one in the repos :)08:14
lordofthepigsYeah, I know08:14
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lordofthepigsbut still, I'd like to try compiling it properly08:15
lordofthepigsI found kde-devel08:15
lordofthepigsbut the description doesn't say wether it includes the headers or not08:15
Daisuke-Idokde-devel is the headers08:15
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stevehello08:16
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lordofthepigsBah, and in case I can't get it to compile and work properly, I'll use the version in the repository08:17
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stevecan someone help me figure out why my WINE program isnt working properly08:18
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juliussteve: possibly08:24
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juliussteve: http://appdb.winehq.org/08:25
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krautmoin08:44
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paolo Hi. how can i see the network traffic in a form similar to ethereal?09:02
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yknottsteve: which is that?09:09
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paoloA simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?09:34
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paoloA simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?09:35
Lukehi, I have a Dell INSPIRON 9300 and the Touchpad is being really nasty, how can I fix it?09:35
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waylandbillpaolo: the ifconfig should simply take effect if the card supports changing on the fly.09:36
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paolowaylandbill: i see. so, what should I do in order to assure that config files are wrote after ifconfig, without rebooting?09:37
LukeHello???09:37
Lukedoes anyone know how to congigure a Touchpad in Feisty on a Dell?09:38
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Evil_DuDeLuke: my friend says that there are drivers for Touchpad in repos09:39
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Evil_DuDedon't know anything else09:39
Lukethe drivers and stuff work, but it left click when you tap it twice09:41
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LukeI used qsynaptics to configure it but when I restart it just goes back to default09:42
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waylandbillpaolo: doing an ifconfig command modifies the config files and then makes the card apply the new settings in one step.09:43
paolowaylandbill: should i do ifconfig eth0 down/up  before/after changing the configuration?09:44
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rathel__I got a question it's not linux related, but does anyone know of a good Headphone review site or something? I need new ones and don't know what to get.09:44
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Lynourerathel__: headfi rules, but yeah, that question was better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic than here09:45
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noonker__Hey guys can you help me, i got a problem with kubuntu on my other computer09:47
rathel__OoO there's an off topic channel, sorry about that.09:47
noonker__How do you restore the xorg.conf09:47
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MilhousePunkRocknoonker__: IIRC that's "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or similar09:50
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paoloanother question: is there a "dhcp" option in ifconfig? or should i use something else?09:54
MilhousePunkRockpaolo: Do you have a DHCP server on your network? That could be your router, for instance...09:55
paoloMilhousePunkRock: of course i have it09:55
Lynourepaolo: you can put dhcp into /etc/interfaces , at least09:55
paolobut i would use a shell command09:56
Lynourepaolo: see   man ifconfig  for the options it support09:56
paoloLynoure: already done09:56
MilhousePunkRockpaolo: If you are unsure, just use KNetworkManager, the settings from there go straight to you /etc/network/interfaces09:57
paoloMilhousePunkRock: no. i don't want to use guis09:57
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MilhousePunkRockpaolo: Nice... So it's "sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces"09:58
Lynourepaolo: you could pastebin the interfaces and ifconfig for further help.09:58
paolook, someone suggested me dhclient09:59
paololet's try09:59
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Lynourepaolo: you pretty much need to have dhclient  for dhcp to work :) And trying with it manually does not hurt either10:01
MilhousePunkRockI am pretty sure Kubuntu comes with a pretty extensive default /etc/network/interfaces, huh? Gentoo has one with _all_ possible options and explanations10:02
MilhousePunkRockpaolo: If it's just a SOHO network, I'd go for static IP settings though, as a side effect it will make your system boot a split second faster, because it does not have to wait for the DHCP lease10:02
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: it10:03
waylandbill's not that much of a difference10:03
MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: I said "split second". My router is pretty stupid with his DHCP server, might give different IPs to the same machine on the next boot, so some services won't work, that's why I turned it off10:04
waylandbillthe advantage especially for wifi is that you can just enter the key on a laptop and go without needing to manually config everytime a new pc is introduced.10:04
MilhousePunkRockNewer routers might have a option to assign the same IPs based on the client's MAC address though.10:04
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MilhousePunkRockTechnically mine has that option too, but my ISP was so kind to cripple the firmware totally and throw that option out...10:05
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: I've never seen a router that doesn't have leases based on the MAC. The lease expiration time is probably set to low on that one.10:05
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MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: And flashing the manufacturer's firmware back would involve soldering a serial port onto the board. Since I have never even seen a soldering gun from close, I'd rather not...10:07
waylandbillsounds like a perfect candidate for zeroconf service.10:07
MilhousePunkRockOn the other hand, I am just installing debian on my brand new shiny NSLU2, I could run a DHCP server there. But there really is no need for DHCP on a "network" with 3 and a half computers10:08
sivaji!grub10:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:08
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MilhousePunkRockwaylandbill: I haven't looked into zeroconf yet, but I might...10:10
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vencahello :o) I have some problem with ubuntu ... when i try to play some divx movie it is not played fluently ... is there sb who could give me some advice? Im using Ubuntu 7.0410:15
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dwidmannvenca: not played fluently? you mean it skips frames or something?10:17
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vencadwidmann ... yes. Something like this :)10:18
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dwidmannvenca: umm, it's being played from a disk right? Perhaps DMA is not turned on for the drive. Try running "sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd?" and see what it says10:18
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sivajivenca  have u installed codecs10:19
dwidmannvenca: plan b: it's not being run from a disk, perhaps cpu usage is at max10:19
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sivajivenca "http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html"10:20
vencadwidmann .. in fact it doesnt metter wheter i play it from disk. The problem is the same. I thought that the problem could be in codecs but at the beginning it was ok.10:21
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paolo another question: how can i save the new network configuration (done with ifconfig)?10:23
vencasivaji ive tried to install w32codecs but nothing was installed. Probably i already have all needed codecs.10:23
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sivajivenca what is the extension of that vedia file .wmv , mpeg10:26
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vencasivaji usually avi10:26
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sivajivenca type avi and press tab in terminal u will see packages associated with that10:28
vencasivaji hmm... nothing happend10:29
sivajivenca  apt-cache search avi | grep -i avi10:29
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vencasivaji there are 4 packages asociated with avi10:30
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sivajivenca check have u installed that10:31
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arunwhy wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?10:31
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sivajiarun u r from10:32
sivajiindia right10:33
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paolook thnks for your support10:33
sivajiarun :10:33
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paolo and how can i set a gateway for eth0 ?10:34
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vencasivaji it seems it is working :) Thanks very much ... Ive installed avifile-divx-plugin and avifile-xvid-plugin10:36
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sivajipaolo  kmenu->system settings->network setting10:36
sivajivenca fine10:36
paolosivaji: not with a gui10:36
sivajisorry try #ubuntu10:37
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dandy_can we install manually the updates of ubuntu10:38
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Gerrit!acrobat10:38
Gerrit!plugin10:38
Gerrithm.10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
sivaji_dandy_ "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"10:39
crdlb!medibuntu | Gerrit10:39
ubotuGerrit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:39
GerritThanks10:40
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arunwhy wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?10:41
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xlinux_hello?10:56
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xlinux_hello?10:59
hw1hoi11:00
xlinux_got a weird one11:00
xlinux_amarok crashes offline, and nothing I do changes it11:00
sivaji_!hi | xlinux_11:00
ubotuxlinux_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:00
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sivaji_xlinux_  "sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok" then "sudo apt-get install amarok"11:02
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xlinux_lemme try that one11:02
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xlinux_lemme go offline a sec and try it11:03
sivaji_ok11:03
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xlinux_holy crap!11:06
xlinux_im having the same problem with kaffeine, so I guess I should try the same11:07
xlinux_one other offline weirdo... mpeg thumbnails dont load with konqueror11:07
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xlinux_thats weird, because I already tried renaming the config files for amarok11:08
xlinux_so that it would make a new folder..11:08
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GerritHello, when I run kdvi, I get a warning on the commandline: "QApplication::notify: Unexpected null receiver". How can I solve this?11:12
xlinux_what is kdvi?11:14
GerritI mean on the konsole.11:14
GerritIT is a dvi viewer.11:14
GerritFor KDE.11:14
xlinux_dvi? whats that? pardon my ignorance to it11:14
Gerritdevice independent file11:14
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xlinux_cant help you sorry.. you try the forum?11:15
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sivaji_Gerrit have u tried #ubuntu11:20
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GerritNot yet.11:23
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xlinux_nope.. still doesnt work....11:26
xlinux_amarok still crashes when im offline11:26
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Rami_hi!11:26
tmbgwindows is a greedy little whore. I installed it on its own disk, and it mucked around with mbr on another disk and overwrote lilo.11:27
sivajixlinux_ run amarok from terminal11:27
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xlinux_KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"11:27
sivajixlinux_ paste here what error u get11:27
xlinux_thats when I start it11:27
Rami_tmbg, you're right11:27
xlinux_it doesnt give an error when it closes11:27
xlinux_and amarok itself is fine offline, but it crashes when I try to play a song11:28
xlinux_note this:11:28
tmbgI tried to use gag to boot my now hidden linux install... but it couldn't boot that partition.11:28
sivajitmbg yes windows only its own job that is it  never loads other os11:28
sivajitmbg yes windows  *minds * only its own job that is it  never loads other os11:28
Rami_format the partition with wndows instead11:28
xlinux_kaffeine wont play ANYTHING offline, and konqueror wont load any mpeg thumbnails offline...11:28
xlinux_as soon as im online, everything is resolved11:29
tmbgformatting the windows disk wouldn't accomplish anything11:29
Rami_:o11:29
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xlinux_considering I get the crash when trying to play a song.. and the message in the terminal relates to play pause.. I would assume this was the problem11:31
sivajitmbg u r system cant load linux now right11:31
tmbgsivaji, right11:31
Rami_I need to install shockwave for mozilla, how  to do?11:32
sivaji tmbg  i will give u a link that contain boot file copy that to cd ,which allows u to boot linux and windows11:32
[ifroog] !shockwave11:32
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave11:32
tmbgsivaji, fire away11:32
Rami_ok11:33
xlinux_is there any way to check for possible missing dependencies or something? Ive had this problem for over a week.. im about to remove the whole OS and reinstall it11:33
Rami_but doesnt that make my computer open to viruses?11:34
sivajitmbg "http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso" burn this image to a cd and boot from that11:34
sivajitmbg second life to linux11:34
tmbgwhy is it so huge?11:35
sivajixlinux_ have u opened amarok from terminal11:35
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xlinux_yes, and as posted earlier:11:35
sivajitmbg because it contail grub loader  qtparted live cd etc11:36
xlinux_kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098cb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"11:36
xlinux_but it works fine with an internet connection11:36
tmbgI thought I'd be safe since I installed windows on its OWN disk. can't believe it messes around with mbr's on different disks. that's messed up11:36
sivajitmbg u cant boot kubuntu then how u came here11:38
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tmbgsivaji, huh?11:39
tmbgI'm in windows right now11:39
tmbgsince the stupid windows mbr bootloader nonsense works11:39
sivajitmbg tell which software u r using to chat here11:40
angelhi11:40
sivaji!hi | angel11:40
ubotuangel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:40
tmbgsivaji, why does it matter?11:41
angeli am testing konversation11:41
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angels:)11:41
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sivajiok11:41
sivajitmbg u have konversation in windows ?11:41
tmbgnope11:42
sivajitmbg then what make u to chat here11:42
tmbgto figure out wtf was going on w/ lilo/mbr/etc nonsense11:43
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sivajitmbg ho cant u understand what i am aking11:43
tmbgwtf is your problem?11:44
tmbgno, I can't understand.11:44
tmbgfor one, it's barely in english11:44
angelanyone know how_to connect to jabber sever with kopete?11:45
sivajiu have konversaion in kubuntu right similarly what software u have in windows for chatting here?11:45
tmbgfor another, you're asking all sorts of questions about how I do things that don't matter for this conversation11:45
Jucatoangel: google talk?11:45
angeldata:x client is required11:45
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tmbgsivaji, there are tons of windows irc clients. I picked one I like11:45
angelnop: konversation11:45
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angelcan u connect to this chat with google talk? nice11:46
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Jucatoangel: in Kopete, yes11:46
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sivaji   tmbg    ya i too installed one irc client but it is not like konverstaion so which one u have selected  now11:47
tmbgwhy does it matter?11:47
sivaji!ext211:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:48
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sivaji!ext11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
sivaji!ext311:51
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org11:51
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angelJABBER IN KOPETE:msg error when i tried server services: "You need an x:data capable client to****"11:53
angelwhere **** is register, search, etc...11:53
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angeldoes anyone know what kind of client is an x:data capable??11:54
angeler....11:55
angelsthx anyway11:55
xlinux_so no idea sivaji?11:56
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AFaithhello my fellow mates from #kubuntu!11:57
AFaithhave a question for you11:57
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sivajixlinux_ no idea11:57
AFaithkopete keeps it logs in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/YahooProtocol/name11:57
AFaithbut it keeps them in xml format11:57
AFaithi wanna know if there is any log parser that can help me read those logs easily11:58
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xlinux_i might seriously have to reinstall my OS.. daaammn that sucks11:58
_4strOAFaith: kopette himself ?11:59
AFaith_4strO: how ?11:59
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_4strOin the edition menu12:00
_4strOsee historic12:00
_4strOAFaith: it's about conversation's log ?12:01
AFaithyes, of course12:01
sivajixlinux_ no wait12:02
AFaithi can find that button12:02
AFaith:(12:02
JucatoAFaith: right-click on the contact -> View History12:02
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xlinux_what else can we try? Ive got a virtual OS and a ton of customizing done to this install12:02
sivajixlinux_ install this "amarok  amarokcollectionscanner  amarok_libvisual amarokapp amarok_daapserver.rb amarok_proxy.rb"12:03
sivajixlinux_ use aptitude12:04
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sivajixlinux_ are u there12:04
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xlinux_sivaji: yeah12:04
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AFaithsorry ...12:05
xlinux_let me try to install those libraries to make sure I have um all12:05
AFaithkopete crashed12:05
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mentoirde!german12:05
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:05
sivajiAFaith press ctrl+esc ,kill kopete and restart12:05
sivajixlinux_ is it alright now12:06
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xlinux_its saying it cant find any of the packages you mentioned12:07
AFaithsivaji: i've restarted kopete :) now, i'm trying to see if it let see the logs12:07
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xlinux_is there some special link to add to sources.list? I already have medibuntu added as a repo12:07
sivajixlinux_ try this "  exaile amarok-engines  amarok-xine"12:09
sivajiinstall this12:09
AFaithbig thanks!12:09
AFaithi've really helped me :P12:09
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xlinux_hmmm didnt have some of those.. im gonna try offline after I restart X12:10
xlinux_E: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/a/amarok/amarok-engines_1.4.5-0ubuntu7+medibuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 12:11
xlinux_thats the only error12:11
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xlinux_try it anyway?12:11
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pagxlinux_, wrong adress. I'll paste you the right one in a bit12:12
pag!paste12:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:12
xlinux_gonna try it.. post it when im back in a sec12:12
paghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/12:13
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xlinux_nope... didnt work12:14
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pagxlinux_, here's the right adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/12:14
thykois it possible to upgrade my kubuntu install from 6.06 to 7.04?12:15
sivajiya12:15
_4strO!upgrade12:15
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:15
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sivajithyko edit u r sources.list12:16
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sivajithyko u cant directly upgrade from 6.06 to 7.0412:17
sivajifirst upgrade to 6.1012:17
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thykothanks yall, giving that a try ....12:19
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Assidwhy cant you upgrade form 6.06 straight to 7.04 ?12:22
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bryan_Hey everyone, Hope its cool to ask: I have Ubuntu installed on Macbook, & need OSX back asap, but, comp wont boot from install DVD or CD??12:24
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alexhallo12:24
alexknnte mir einer helfen ?12:24
alexE: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:25
alexE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:25
pag!de | alex12:25
ubotualex: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:25
alexthx12:25
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Assidbryan_: wouldnt you be better off calling macintosh?12:28
Assidor apple for that matter12:28
Assidthere should be a guide to reinstall it i'd think12:28
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bryan_Assid> True, I was just hoping to avoid the phone support, thought I might get lucky tapping in here12:31
Assidhave you tried googling?12:32
bryan_its an odd problem, Apple install disc wont boot, and when inserted in Ubuntu, I get a "cannot mount volume" error, like Linux isnt recognizing the drive or something12:32
bryan_yeah, been googling my ass off haha, havent found anything useful12:32
Assidhrmm12:32
Assidis there an option to set the boot priority ?12:33
Assidlike dvdrom, hard drive12:33
bryan_in Ubuntu you mean?12:33
bryan_if so, Im not sure12:33
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Gerrit!xmodmap12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
GerritWhere can I find the post-login file to put xmodmap commands that I want to be carried out everytime I login via kdm?12:40
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bjwebbctrl + esc does not show anything12:44
bjwebbhttp://two.xthost.info/linux/snapshot1.png12:44
bjwebbany pointers?12:44
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PsySinehow can I stop kde from overriding my x-configuration?12:55
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CM_JamieCan one do a last seen command on this channel?12:58
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Assidman.. installing kubuntu on my lappy is heating it up.. like crazy12:59
Assidalmost like a steam iron12:59
Assiderr. how come the fonts look a little odd ?01:00
Assidi got the desktop disc (live cd)01:00
Assidthe fonts look a litle "scratched"01:01
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Assidatleast some of the fonts do01:02
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hasan2hi all01:10
hasan2there is problem in my system sound card01:11
hasan2i have installed kubuntu o.s01:11
hasan2anybody can help with this01:11
hasan2ello01:13
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Assiderr whats the root password?01:17
Assidthe default root pass01:17
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PsySineAssid: there is none01:17
PsySineAssid: use sudo and sudo -s01:17
PsySineand supply the users passwd01:18
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Assidthe fonts look kinda odd01:21
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Assidalmost like its not installed..01:22
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vistahow do i save chat conversations on kopote ?01:22
vistahow do i save chat logs on kopete ?01:23
vistaanyone here?01:23
vistahow do i disable single click01:24
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vistahow do i save chat logs on kopete ?01:24
MaTiAzvista: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double click to open files and folders"01:25
MaTiAzThat's how you disable single click01:25
vistaya thanks01:25
MaTiAznp01:25
vistaand how do i save chat logs for kopete01:25
MaTiAzDunno about that01:25
vistak01:25
Assidcan someone help me with the fonts.../01:26
Assidsome of the fonts look very bad01:26
vistai keep on deleting a file but this file still keeps poping up on my desktop is this a VIRUS ?01:26
vistaLINUX VIRUS ?01:26
pawitpWhat file?01:27
vistaa folder01:27
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pawitpis it a special one?01:27
vistaand empty folder01:27
vistaa folder that has another empty folder01:27
vistasubfolder is called examples01:28
vistamain folder called LIQUID-BLACK01:28
vistaits on my desktop01:28
pawitptry deleting the subfolder01:28
vistalet me try01:28
vistaits deleted !01:28
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vistabut not sure whether it will come up again :s01:29
vistapawitp: how do i save chat logs on kopete?01:29
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vistapawitp: omg ! that folder came back01:29
pawitp~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs01:30
vistais it a VIRUS ?01:30
pawitpthe logs are usually in there01:30
pawitpvista: Probably not01:30
vistathen ?01:30
pawitpDid you try using the terminal?01:30
vistanope01:30
vistahow do i do that01:31
pawitpopen konsole01:31
vistathen01:31
pawitptype "cd Desktop"01:31
pawitpand then "rm -rf [name of folder] "01:31
Assidokay the fonts are looking horrible.. what do i do01:32
vistathanks its gone but dont know for how long01:32
Assidi tried enabling anti aliasing01:33
Assiddont think it helped01:33
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vistapawitp: i only found konversation chat logs not kopete chat logs01:33
pawitpwhoop01:33
pawitpI thought you said konversation01:34
vistanope its kopete01:34
vistapawitp: that folder came back ? ?01:34
vistashould i panic01:34
pawitpNever had something like folders coming back01:35
pawitpis a program accessing it?01:35
pawitpor a program is trying to write to it?01:35
pawitplike a torrent?01:35
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vistawell the folder is empty01:35
vistaim not sure01:35
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pawitpBasically, how did you create that folder?01:35
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vistai found it from kde-look.org01:36
vistaits suppose to be a kbfx theme01:36
vistai thinks now its gone forever01:36
vistachange a few permission matters01:37
vistaanyways tell me where to get kopete chat logs ?01:37
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vistaOMG OMG OMG01:38
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vistafolder came back01:38
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pawitpTry rebooting maybe01:38
vistaokay01:38
a9913vista, .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/01:38
vistapawitp: kopete chat logs ?01:38
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pawitpsee a991301:38
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trippanyone can give me an IRC for italian kubuntu channel?01:39
vistaa9912: there are no folder names logs01:39
pawitp!it01:39
vistaa9912: how do i enable chat logs from kopete ?01:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:39
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pawitp!it | tripp01:40
ubotutripp: please see above01:40
tripp!it01:40
a9913vista, THREE! 991_3_01:40
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vistaa9912: whats that?01:40
vista!bn01:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:40
vistaFOLDER CAME BACK01:41
vistaa9912: how di enable chat logs for kopete01:41
pawitpvista: Try seeking help from someone else01:41
vistaa9913: how di enable chat logs for kopete01:41
a9913i get a feeling you're doing that on purpose...01:41
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vistaim doing what on purpose?01:42
a9913vista, enable the history plugin01:42
vistawait01:42
vistalet me try01:42
vistaa9913: its already enabled01:43
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llutzHi01:43
a9913vista, check in .kde/share/apps/kopete01:43
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vistaa9913: thanks01:44
vistathink i have it done01:44
AyabaraI have a problem with dual monitors in kubuntu. Anyone know how to control which monitor has focus? It doesn't follow the mouse pointer on my system.01:45
a9913vista, where was it?01:45
vistaa9913: where is what ?01:45
a9913vista, if it wasn't in .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/ , where was it?01:45
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vistaa9913: that folder wasnt there in the first place but later came up when i eneabled chat log01:46
a9913oh01:46
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vistaa9913: why cant ppl on windows live see my kopete emoticons ?01:46
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a9913vista, because emoticons are sent as texts01:47
vistaa9913: so how do i get it to them ?01:47
a9913vista, if i send :), the client converts it into an image01:47
a9913vista, you cant.01:47
a9913vista, try using only the ones defined by windows live01:47
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vistaa9913: oh :(01:48
fusiogen!fr01:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:48
fusiogenallez01:48
fusiogenfuck dows/vista :)01:48
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PriceChild!ohmy | fusiogen01:48
ubotufusiogen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:48
vistabut i found a nice pack of emoticons but they are now useless:(01:48
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vistais there a bangladeshi kubuntu channel01:49
a9913vista, you can create one if it aint01:49
a9913i think01:49
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vistanah if its not there then no use creating it01:49
vistabut i just cant delete this folder01:50
vistait just keeps poping up01:50
vistai suspect its a virus ;)01:50
gMshuh?01:50
vistajust cant get rid of this folder01:50
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[n1ce] MiLkbtw hi01:51
vistahi01:51
a9913vista, try checking if anything is using the folder01:51
a9913if so, what01:51
[n1ce] MiLkdoes anyone use gdesklets and beryl?01:51
vistaa9913: how do i check that01:52
a9913vista, there's a program which checks what pids are using a file01:52
a9913forgot it's name01:52
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Cyranohi guys01:52
Assidcan someone help me please01:52
[n1ce] MiLkah sry its a kubuntu channel01:52
[n1ce] MiLksry01:52
Assidmy fonts are looking pretty bad01:52
Cyranoi ve got an unrelated question01:52
Cyranoim not a native speaker of english01:53
vistai c01:53
Cyranowhat does "what goes around comes around" mean ?01:53
vistaim also not a native english speaker01:53
epimethCyrano: it means that whatever you do to someone will happen to you01:53
Cyranook thx01:54
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vistaCyrano : where you from ?01:54
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CyranoTurkey01:55
vistaokay01:55
Cyranoim reading a broadband communication handbook right now01:55
Cyranoit's written in it01:55
vistaany one help me get rid of this screenshot option?01:55
vistawhenever i press print screen button screenshot pops up01:56
vistahow do i get rid of it01:56
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nosrednaekimvista: that itsmost definately a feature...but it should be under system settings-> keybpard and mouse-> keyboard shortcuts01:57
vistathanks let me try01:57
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Assidalso01:59
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Assidi trie to change the screen refresh rate.. from 60 .. but everytme i set the administrator mode01:59
Assidits giving me an eror for su01:59
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jeroen__Hi02:00
nosrednaekimhello02:01
jeroen__I've got a problem here02:01
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jeroen__I just did a tar for sauerbraten02:01
nosrednaekimok.02:01
nosrednaekimjeroen__: you can get the .deb at www.getdeb.com02:01
hasan2ello02:01
jeroen__I tryed to open it but it didn't started, i just had to log in again on my kubutu02:01
hasan2anybody can help on installing driver for sound card on kubuntu02:02
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nosrednaekimhasan2: what sound card do you have?02:02
nosrednaekimjeroen__: install the .deb from www.getdeb.net02:03
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jeroen__nosrednaekim: Ok I'll try that02:04
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hasan2not sure how to check02:06
nosrednaekimjeroen__: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Sauerbraten02:06
hasan2nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card type ?02:06
nosrednaekimhasan2: so your sound is just not working? did you raise all volumes in Kmix and unmute all channels?02:07
jeroen__nosrednaekim: I used that one.02:07
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hasan2yes02:07
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jeroen__nosrednaekim: I just have a black screen and then my computer logs in again02:07
hasan2nosrednaekim : even i got to test sound and not sound there02:07
administradorHi everyone!02:07
Assiderr02:07
administradorusing linux for the first time :)02:08
Assidis there anty way i can push the refresh rates? 60hz is very very bad02:08
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nosrednaekimjeroen__: I had that problem too... its not the most stabe thing on planet earth02:08
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nosrednaekimadministrador: cool!02:08
hasan2nosrednaekim : when i play any song, its playing but no sound comming02:08
nosrednaekimhasan2: did you mess around with the volumes in kmix?02:09
administradorspent a hole morning trying to network a Kubuntu PC and a Mac with OS X02:09
hasan2nosrednaekim : yes02:09
jeroen__nosrednaekim: any way to fix it?02:09
hasan2nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card driver is installed properly or not02:09
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administradoranyone can help? I've searched the forums but nothing seems to help me02:09
nosrednaekimadministrador: sure, what are you trying to do?02:10
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nosrednaekimhasan2: run " sudo lshw | grep sound" and pastebin the output02:10
hasan2nosrednaekim : ok02:10
administradorI have a PC with a one disk. one partition for system other for "works"02:11
administrador I want to share "works" with all my mac's running OS X02:11
nosrednaekimok, via NFS shares?02:11
hasan2nosrednaekim : no output02:12
jeroen__nosrednaekim: I downloaded it again, tar't it again still the same problem02:12
nosrednaekimI'm not exctly familiar with mac's... do they have a ssh client?02:12
hasan2nosrednaekim : lshw | grep sound  no out put02:12
administradorI've tried samba shares02:13
nosrednaekimhasan2: ok, run "sudo lshw | grep audio"02:13
administradorthe mac's can see the shares but than it gives me an error02:13
hasan2nosrednaekim ; ok02:13
nosrednaekimadministrador: samba is intended for windows to linux, macs have it easier I think.02:13
nosrednaekimadministrador: do macs have ssh clients?02:13
hasan2description: Multimedia audio controller02:13
nosrednaekimcan you do ssh?02:14
hasan2 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd02:14
administradorcan we continue later? My boss call me I've got to go02:14
administradorback in a hour02:14
administradorhope you'll be arround02:14
nosrednaekimadministrador: I woun't be around later... but someone else will be02:15
hasan2nosrednaekim :02:15
hasan2  description: Multimedia audio controller02:15
hasan2                capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd02:15
nosrednaekimhasan2: just run lshw and look through the output for your audio device.02:15
nosrednaekimhasan2: sorry........ and when you find it, pastebin the section.02:15
hasan2nosrednaekim : i got quite big output02:16
hasan2where to paste it ?02:16
nosrednaekim!pastebin | hasan202:17
ubotuhasan2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:17
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hasan2nosrednaekim : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26256/02:19
jeroen__my problem is not solved :(02:19
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nosrednaekimhasan2: your driver is installed, sound should be working. Make sure in sound settings the driver is set to alsa02:21
hasan2nosrednaekim : how to do this ?02:22
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nosrednaekimhasan2: system settings-> sounds system->Hardware-> select audio device =alsa02:23
hasan2nosrednaekim : where i can see that the driver is installed. just to learn it02:23
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nosrednaekimhasan2: in lshw, there was a section for your sound card, in that section it said "driver=Intel"02:24
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hasan2nosrednaekim : thanks , in my sound system settings , select the audio device  "no als found there" , midi device "Alsa device"02:25
jeroen__anybody from Belgium here?02:26
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nosrednaekimhasan2: sorry..... ALSA is short for the "advanced linux sound architecture"02:26
nosrednaekimwhich is on that list02:26
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hasan2nosrednaekim : it seems good , let me try to listen any music02:27
nosrednaekimhasan2: did the test work?02:27
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hasan2nosrednaekim : let me try it =>test02:28
hasan2nosrednaekim : not working02:28
nosrednaekimI mean under sound system->general->test sound02:29
hasan2do i need to put my cable in the other port02:29
nosrednaekimhasan2: try putting your cable in every port and see what happens. front panel audio may not work.02:29
hasan2nosrednaekim : ya its in front panel audio , let me put it on back02:30
nosrednaekimput it in the green port.02:30
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romudoghiya02:31
nosrednaekimhey.02:31
romudoglol nosrednaekim02:31
romudogWhat part of the world you in?02:31
nosrednaekimNJ, USA02:31
romudoglol Dont you work?02:31
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nosrednaekimi'm 17, High school is out.02:31
nosrednaekim:)02:31
romudognosrednaekim cool02:31
hasan2nosrednaekim : even sound on back ports not working02:32
romudognosrednaekim Why no job yet? You got a car/license yet?02:32
nosrednaekimhasan2: great...02:32
romudoghasan2 you got an audio card or built in sound?02:32
nosrednaekimromudog: don't want one.. ;)02:32
benedekI just joined this channel so I don't know if you have tried, but did you put all the sliders in the mixer to the top?02:32
hasan2nosrednaekim : its built in card02:32
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romudoghasan2: Built in may be a problem maybe its not finding the IRQ or somethin..02:33
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hasan2nosrednaekim : any other way to handle it02:33
hasan2nosrednaekim ; or configure it out02:33
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nosrednaekimhasan2: intel is ussually very standard, which leads me to belive that some setting in the mixer is wrong.02:34
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romudognosrednaekim: I agree i usually find that maybe i have wrong audio driver...ALSA/OSS driver installed or my mixers are off02:35
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hasan2nosrednaekim : u mean kmixer02:35
Vaxterhi to all! :)02:35
hasan2nosrednaekim : how to check mixer settings02:36
romudogVaxter: Hello, Good morning.02:36
Vaxter4 u 2 :)02:36
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Vaxterppl, need some help02:36
nosrednaekimhasan2: lets so it the command line way... "alsamixer"02:36
romudognosrednaekim: Dont you wish you could be paid for helping people?02:36
jeroen__Hi02:36
romudog!ask02:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:36
Vaxteri have just instaled kubuntu02:36
nosrednaekimromudog: yeah I kinda do.02:36
Vaxterand i have started to install apps02:36
jeroen__what's the lib. I need to install to play mp3 on amarok?02:36
romudognosrednaekim: I love helpin.02:36
Vaxterbut serbian update mirror is not working02:36
romudogChange mirrors02:37
nosrednaekimjeroen__: "libxine-extracodecs"02:37
Vaxteris there any way to change mirror that i am using02:37
jeroen__thanks ^^02:37
romudogyes02:37
romudogVaxter: yes02:37
Vaxterahow02:37
hasan2nosrednaekim  : i got the volumes of alsamixer02:37
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romudognosrednaekim you got the repositories handy? Cause i dont lol02:37
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Vaxteri am googling, but i can't find it02:37
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nosrednaekimVaxter: if you are on fiesty, there is a built-in mirror chooser02:38
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nosrednaekimhasan2: all at the top and unmuted?02:38
Vaxteri am02:38
romudogVaxter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:38
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Vaxterok, thanks02:39
Vaxteri am reading it now :)02:39
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romudogNosrednaekim: Audio jack could be in wrong plug...Just an idea..done that sooo many times i have a special backports its 7.2 and only one will work with sound...02:39
nosrednaekimVaxter: adeptmanager->adept->manage repositories-> download from02:39
hasan2nosrednaekim : ok , how to do unmuted, all are at top now02:39
nosrednaekimromudog: hmm true... start switching!02:40
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nosrednaekimhasan2: they are probabaly all unmuted (if they were in mix)02:40
hasan2nosrednaekim ; all done02:40
hasan2how to quite and save02:41
romudognosrednaekim: Too bad we cant just remote assist invite everyone to fix their probs..lol02:41
hasan2sorry02:41
hasan2escape to quite for alsamixer02:41
hasan2nosrednaekim : any thing to do to restart alsamixer ?02:41
nosrednaekimromudog: too slow if internet for that, but yeah, that would be awesome02:41
nosrednaekimhasan2: restart?02:41
romudognosrednaekim: Dialup?02:41
nosrednaekimyou mean restart alsa?02:41
nosrednaekimromudog: yeah.02:42
romudognosrednaekim: Ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X Server02:42
hasan2nosrednaekim :yes how ?02:42
hasan2nosrednaekim : restart the pc ?02:42
romudoghasan2: You dont have to ever restart your PC in linux imo02:43
imagineromudog: ever...02:43
imaginebit too much :)02:43
romudogimagine: ??02:43
nosrednaekimhasan2: no need to restart for changing mixer values02:43
hasan2nosrednaekim : how to test the sound..still test sound setting null02:43
imaginesometimes you need to reboot :P02:43
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nosrednaekimhasan2: tried all the ports in the back?02:44
hasan2nosrednaekim : no sound yet from test sound02:44
romudognosrednaekim: isnt there a console based one with absoloute values? I used it once to apply a harder mic boost..02:44
hasan2nosrednaekim : yes tried all ports already02:44
romudogimagine: When? Ive never had to boot i just restart X02:45
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imagineromudog: I already had X hangin so much that I needed to reboot. whenever you make a kernel update02:45
imagineromudog: it's very rare tho02:45
hasan2nosrednaekim : any other luck for sound02:45
StevethepirateHi ppl. Anyone know of a program that acts as a nice frontend to www.cdcovers.cc ?02:45
romudogimagine: Naw i never boot you only need to boot for kernel when u update for that kernel only software lol otherwise its when i boot next..lmfao02:46
nosrednaekimhasan2: I have no idea, google your chipset and linux02:46
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Stevethepirateor one that downloads hi-res dvd covers from www.cdcovers.cc ?02:46
imagine:P02:46
romudogstevethepirate: Google it man or rep search it02:46
umniki need some help with printer sharing02:47
hasan2nosrednaekim : hadeadphon is 00 in alsamixer02:47
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Stevethepiraterom: done both..02:47
hasan2nosrednaekim : is that make any difference02:47
umniki had it working, but recently had to change my local ip from 192.168.0.* to 192.168.1.*02:47
romudogstevethepirate: lol then maybe there isnt one, You can try to make one though lol..02:47
Stevethepirateromudog: done both.. was hoping someone here might have some code floating around...02:47
nosrednaekimhasan2: that means its on, you just don't want it MM02:48
umniki changed the ip in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf02:48
romudogStevethepirate: Check out sf.net run a search there02:48
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umnikwhat else should i do?02:48
romudogumnik:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_printer_sharing_with_CUPS02:48
nosrednaekimumnik: maybe re-set of the whole arrangement from scratch if it isn't working right now.02:48
umniknosrednaekim: ok, will try that02:49
Stevethepirateromudog: opening firefox could have deadly affects.. ^_^02:49
hasan2nosrednaekim : MM is mute ? right02:49
romudogstevethepirate: Huh?02:49
nosrednaekimhasan2: yeah02:49
hasan2nosrednaekim : when i change it to MM , there is sound02:49
umniknosrednaekim: I just wanted to do it with as little hassle as possible02:49
romudogStevethepirate: Firefox is my savior :D02:49
nosrednaekimhasan2: what?02:49
nosrednaekimyou get sound?02:49
administrador<nosrednaekim> I'm back, tho one with problems with mac's and Linux02:50
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hasan2nosrednaekim : ya when chang headphone to MM got continuous noise kind of sound02:50
nosrednaekimadministrador: ah... lucky you,i'm still around02:50
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nosrednaekimhasan2: oh. test still dint work?02:50
administradoryou asked about ssh clients...02:50
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nosrednaekimadministrador: yeah, can MAC do ssh?02:51
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Stevethepirateromudog: if i open firefox, www.digg.com, facebook and gmail will open..02:51
administradorwhats that? I dont think so...02:51
romudognosrednaekim: sure it can lol02:51
Vaxterjust to say that everything is working now!02:51
Vaxterthanks!02:51
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hasan2nosrednaekim : no test still didnt work02:51
Vaxter:)02:51
Stevethepiratewill lead to long surfing time.02:51
administradorI think via "terminal"02:51
romudogstevethepirate: Okay? Is that a question?? lol02:51
nosrednaekimadministrador: yeah I don't know how macs do networking and such.02:52
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Stevethepirateno.. statement02:52
romudogAdministrador: You can install x11 and run ssh via it02:52
nosrednaekimadministrador: I think you can do it via NFS shares02:52
romudogNosrednaekim: Would you consider this a busy day? lol02:53
administradorI'm not a IT guy... dont know much of those thins. I recognize the names X11, NFS and so on but dont know much about02:53
nosrednaekimromudog: this?NO WAY!02:53
administradoranyoane arround with Mac OS X experience?02:53
nosrednaekimromudog: wait till about 6 oclock on saturday02:53
romudognosrednaekim: Lmfao is it normal for everyone to ask you for help?02:54
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Cyranohi guys02:54
nosrednaekimme?no.. I just offer to help02:54
Cyranoi ve got a problem with amarok02:54
Stevethepirateromudog: i think i'm forced to open ff.. gotta install samba..02:54
romudognosrednaekim: lol02:54
Cyranohow can i handle soundproblems in kubuntu?02:54
Cyranoi can hear the system sounds b02:54
Cyranobut i cant play mp3 withs amarok though mp3 codecs were installed02:54
Stevethepirateis alsa not muted?02:54
Cyranoyesterday i ve installed some programs not related with sound02:55
Cyranohow can i check it?02:55
Cyranowhether its muted or not?02:55
nosrednaekimCyrano: does sound show up in the equilizer thing? like do the bars move up and down?02:55
Cyranoyep02:55
nosrednaekimin amarok02:55
nosrednaekimCyrano: your volume all the way up in amarok?02:55
Cyranoyep02:55
Cyranoyep02:56
Cyrano100 percent02:56
Cyranobars moves up and down02:56
Cyranomp3 plays02:56
Cyranobut without sound02:56
Cyranoive got 2 sound cards02:56
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Cyranoone nvidia on board and the second one is soundblaster live02:57
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Cyranothey r listed with asoundconf list02:57
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Stevethepiratehmm.. which one is the sound plugged in?02:57
CyranoCK8S and Live02:57
Stevethepiratei assum SB live?02:57
Cyranoyep02:57
CyranoSB Live02:57
nosrednaekimok. go to settings->configure amarok->engine.make sure the output plugin is alsa02:58
Daisuke-Idois the 2.6.20-16.29 kernel revision still giving people problems?02:58
Stevethepirateis it plugged into amp / self-powered speakers / ?02:58
nosrednaekimand the engine is xine02:58
Cyranoi use kubuntu02:58
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Cyranothe xine engine cant be initialisad02:58
Stevethepiratelol02:59
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Stevethepiratethats ur problem02:59
Cyranohow cna i do that?02:59
Stevethepiratedo a sudo apt-get install xine02:59
Stevethepirateperhaps.02:59
Stevethepirate[if its not installed] 02:59
Cyranoyesterday i was playing without any kind of problem02:59
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Cyranohasan@TrueFX:~$ sudo apt-get install xine03:00
CyranoPassword:03:00
CyranoReading package lists... Done03:00
CyranoBuilding dependency tree03:00
CyranoReading state information... Done03:00
CyranoPackage xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:00
CyranoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:00
Cyranois only available from another source03:00
CyranoE: Package xine has no installation candidate03:00
Cyranohasan@TrueFX:~$03:00
Cyranoso any suggestion?03:00
nosrednaekimCyrano: package name is libxine103:01
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Cyranoit's installed03:02
Cyranoand already newest version03:02
Cyranosound output plugin was autodetect03:02
hasan2nosrednaekim : thanks for your time. still sound got some problem..will check it out later03:02
Cyranoi ve changed it to oss03:03
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nosrednaekimCyrano: use alsa03:03
mentioejrew!german03:03
Cyranowhen i chose alsa it warns me saying "xine can't initialise any sound driver03:03
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:03
Cyrano!turkish03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
Cyranowhen i give the command apt-get install alsa alsa-base is the newest version03:04
nosrednaekimCyrano: hence... your problem.03:05
Cyranohwere can i check which soundcard is used right now?03:05
administradoranyone with experience with mac's and linux networking? PLEASE HELP I'm going crazy03:05
Cyranowhat's the command03:05
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nosrednaekimCyrano: go into system settings->sound system-> hardware-> and change the device type to Advanced linux sounds architechture03:06
emh5945can somebody help me03:07
Cyranoshould i chose options beneath ?03:07
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Cyranolike full dupleux use custom sampling override device loc03:07
Cyranoetc.03:07
nosrednaekimCyrano: no... thats ok03:07
Jucato!somebody | emh594503:07
ubotuemh5945: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:07
emh5945i need to install more screen resolutions03:08
emh5945but i dont know how to03:08
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romudogWefi for WiFi xD03:08
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administradorI want to share a volume on my Kubuntu PC with may Mac's. I want to use the PC as a File server for the macs03:09
Cyranostil same thing03:09
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Cyranowithout sound03:09
emh5945i need to install more screen resolutions but i dont know how to can someone help03:09
nosrednaekimemh5945: what type of video card03:10
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nosrednaekimBye all! take care of all the poor newbs!03:10
MaTiAzBye nosrednaekim03:10
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romudoglol /wave nosrednaekim03:11
Daisuke-Idoif by "take care of" he means "deride and dehumanize mercilessly"03:11
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romudoglmfao03:11
MaTiAzhaha03:11
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emh5945how do i find out what video card haha03:11
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lexxusemh5945: xorg.conf is a bit difficult... look for manufacture drivers03:11
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romudogWhats everyones favorite Open Source App + Blog/social bookmarking site?03:11
lexxusemh5945: lspci03:12
romudogxmh5945: Look at Kinfocenter03:12
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emh5945i have an ATI Radeon X160003:13
romudogWhats everyones favorite Open Source App + Blog/social bookmarking site?03:13
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blmmHello. How do I get out of "Manual configuration" mode in KNetworkManager?03:14
emh5945i need to install more screen resolutions i have an ATI Radeon X160003:15
romudogemh5945: You can do that easily via System Settings03:16
emh5945how though i cant figure it out03:17
emh5945i only installed one during installation03:17
romudogOkay03:17
romudogOpen up System Settings03:17
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romudogTell me when youve done that03:17
Daisuke-Idothis i have to see.03:17
emh5945i did it03:17
romudogOkay now go to "Monitor & Display"03:18
emh5945ok done03:18
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romudogFirst off do you know anything about your Video card? Max rez supported? Top Hz?03:18
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emh5945max rez is 1680 X 105003:19
emh5945i'm not sure about Hz03:19
romudogOkay03:19
romudogClick "Administrator Mode"03:19
emh5945ok03:19
romudogKeep in mind if your wrong...You get to reinstall your OS or have someone help you at home..03:19
romudogJust FYI..03:20
emh5945ok03:20
romudogType in your password...blah blah..then go to Hardware03:20
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emh5945k03:20
Cyranoyep03:20
romudogSee where it says "Monitor"?03:20
Cyranoi still have a sound problem with amarok03:20
emh5945yeah03:20
romudogHit configure03:20
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Cyranothough i can  play mp3 with gxine i cant hear a sound with amarok03:20
emh5945ok03:20
Cyranowhat can bee the possible reasons?03:21
romudogWhats the max rez of your monitor emh5945?03:21
Daisuke-IdoCyrano: installed amarok-xine?03:21
Cyranoyep03:21
emh59451650 X 105003:21
Cyranoreinstallled amarok03:21
Daisuke-Idoamarok-engines?03:21
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emh5945but that already installed i wanna install a lower one03:21
Daisuke-Idokilled artsd?03:21
romudogemh5945 You want to LOWER your rez?03:21
Cyranoamarok-xine is installed03:22
Cyranoi try to install amarok-engines03:22
Cyranoyesterday everthing was ifne03:22
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emh5945yeah i'm running in a virtual machine in mac and i need to scroll to see the whole thing it doesnt have full screen03:22
Cyranostill i can here the sound03:22
Cyranowith toher applications and system its fine03:22
romudogemh5945 Okay then...thats easier just go to Size Orientation and pos tab03:22
romudogand slide the slider to your left03:22
romudoguntil you get one you like03:23
Cyranoi ve even uninstalled and installed amarok03:23
Cyranonow ive installed amarok-xine and amarok-engines03:23
romudogCyrano u got mp3 codecs installed?03:23
emh5945but there is only two options03:23
Daisuke-Idokillall amarokapp?03:23
emh5945one is really small and one is too big03:23
Cyranoi donno03:23
emh5945there the only rezes i installed during installation03:23
Cyranoyep i ve installed03:23
romudogemh5945 Your running Kubuntu off virtual machine right?03:23
emh5945yeah03:23
Cyranocoz i was playing mp3 files03:23
Cyranohow can i reinstall them03:24
Daisuke-Idoemh5945: in a console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:24
Cyrano?03:24
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emh5945ok03:24
Cyranowhat is the package name?03:24
Daisuke-Idoif you were playing mp3s, it's installed.03:24
jeroen__romudog: can u help me? I try to install sauerbauten but I won't work. I extracted it, I typed: cd sauerbraten, then ./ sauerbraten butI get a black screen and the my pc logs in again instead of starting the game03:24
Cyranoyep i was playing mp3 files03:24
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Daisuke-Idoyou've done the killall?03:24
romudogemh5945 Your kind of in a pinch then because you cant always do that with virtual machine...because your working partially off software drivers and you'll have to enter the values via a command i think but go to admin mode and use your configure in monitor03:25
Cyranobut i ve uninstalled amarok and reinstalled a few minutes ago03:25
Cyranoso03:25
Cyrano?03:25
Cyranomay it be uninstalled also?03:25
Daisuke-Idothat won't change the codecs03:25
romudogjeroen__: Sure can03:25
Cyranoi mean mp3 codecs?03:25
Cyranook03:25
romudogjeroen__: You have the 3d Accel drivers installed?03:25
Cyranoso what else03:25
Cyranoi ve lost my favorite playe r03:25
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: opengl. you need proprietary drivers03:25
Cyranoi cant use it and i dont want to use xmms03:25
Cyranoit sux03:25
Daisuke-IdoCyrano: again, have you done a killall amarokapp?03:25
Cyranoafter tasting amarok it would be torture03:26
emh5945well nothing is emulated, i'm on an intel mac03:26
Cyranoyep03:26
Cyranonow ive done it and restarted03:26
Cyranono sound03:26
Cyranoat all03:26
Cyranoand i can play mp3s with gxine03:27
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romudogemh5945 Your saying two things here, First off you need to understand that if your running a virtual machine its emulating....not software but hardware...there are some aspects that you need to understand so im going to reffer you to ubuntuforums.com because i dont think i can help you...03:27
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Cyranoi can play them with kaffeine also03:28
Cyranoright nw i have sound03:28
Cyranobut only amarok03:28
Daisuke-IdoCyrano: in amarok, what sound system and what output plugin is it using?03:29
Cyranoxine sound system03:29
Cyranoautodetect output plugin03:29
Daisuke-Idotry some other options for the output plugin03:29
Daisuke-Idooss and also03:29
Daisuke-Idoalsa*03:30
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emh5945alright thanks everyone03:30
emh5945i did that and i got the screen rez i wanted03:31
Daisuke-Idoemh5945: what finally worked?03:31
emh5945yeah03:31
emh5945what u said03:31
emh5945the command03:31
Daisuke-Idok03:31
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romudogDaisuke-ldo...lol03:31
romudogDaisuke-ldo: You find this funny like i do?03:31
Daisuke-Idofind what funny?03:32
romudogDaisuke-ldo nothin just listenin to this03:32
jeroen__Daisuke-Ido: where can I get that?03:33
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: what video card do you have?03:33
jeroen__Geforce MX 40003:34
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romudogIs that an old card?03:34
jeroen__pretty03:34
romudog4+ yrs?03:34
jeroen__I think, yes03:34
jeroen__but I'm not sure03:34
romudogYou may have a hard time playing many 3d games at any decent quality03:34
Daisuke-Idothe mx 400 is a gf203:35
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Daisuke-Idoit's not the best card for 3d gaming, but it's servicable03:35
jeroen__when Windows was on the this pc I could play counterstrike source03:35
romudogwhoa03:35
romudogcool03:35
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy03:35
umnikstill no luck with my printer - it works locally, but not from a remote comp03:35
jeroen__thanks03:35
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: that's not everything, but it's a start :D03:35
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romudogMy card was a ripoff and to find out that Nvidia and ATI are price fixing :|03:36
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Dankerhi03:36
romudogDanker: Hi03:36
Daisuke-Ido7600gs, perfect for what little gaming i do.  i can run UT2k4 at max settings with an excellent framerate, so i can't complain :D03:37
DankerCould someone offer a good download manager that could deal with FTP directories and pause/resume downloads?03:37
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daquinowhy is this thing telling me im not authorized to run a x session ?03:37
jeroen__Daisuke-Ido: So now it should work?03:37
JucatoDanker: try kget?03:37
jeroen__I also updates my libstdc++6 libs03:37
romudogJeroen__ should03:37
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: all installed?03:37
DankerI think it can only download single file - not all directory tree. Am I right?03:38
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X, let's see :)03:38
jeroen__Don't know how you install, I did the tar thing and then tryed to open03:38
Daisuke-IdoNO03:38
JucatoDanker: you can go into that directory and download everything. KGet integrates very nicely with Konqueror03:38
Daisuke-Idosudo apt-get nvidia-glx-legacy03:38
Daisuke-Ido:)03:38
jeroen__already did that03:38
Daisuke-Idothen you should be okay03:39
jeroen__ok,. brb03:39
Daisuke-Idorestart x and we'll see what we've got03:39
romudogjeroen__ : Did you see Nvidia logo?03:39
Daisuke-Idonot sure where the tar part came in...03:39
Daisuke-Idoromudog: he hasn't restarted x yet :)03:39
jeroen__where should I see and nv logo?03:39
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romudogDaisuke-ldo i thought he said he did03:39
romudogtoo many convos in here lol03:39
Daisuke-Idojeroen__: ctrl-alt-backspave03:40
Daisuke-Ido-v+c03:40
Daisuke-Idowhee!03:40
Daisuke-Idohe'll be back.03:40
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romudoglol03:40
romudogDaisuke-ldo helpin p33pz is fun..03:40
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romudogwb03:40
Daisuke-Idojeroen_: success?03:41
jeroen_I'm back03:41
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Daisuke-Idoapparently, since you're here :D03:41
jeroen_didn't see an nv logo03:41
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Daisuke-Idooh, wait03:41
Daisuke-Idohrmm03:41
jacqueshi03:41
romudogif hes doin legacy it might now show03:41
jeroen_at the login I have to see an nv logo?03:41
jacquesI have a problem here03:42
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romudognot**03:42
romudog!ask jacques03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask jacques - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
romudog!ask03:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:42
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jeroen_maybe I'll be to try to launch the game again03:42
romudogok gl jeroen__03:42
jacquesI can not play any dvd in my dvd rom as user03:43
jeroen_init: sdl03:43
jeroen_init: enet03:43
jeroen_init: video: mode03:43
jeroen_Unable to create OpenGL screen: Couldn't find matching GLX visual03:43
Daisuke-Idosudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:43
Daisuke-Idojeroen_: ^^03:43
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romudogDaisuke-ldo: You rock man. Thanks for helpin =P03:44
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jeroen_thanks. I'll do a re-login03:44
daquinohelp...03:44
Daisuke-Idodaquino: your issue has got me completely confused.03:45
Danker[16:38]  <Jucato> How? Tried now, but....03:45
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daquinowhen i try to start another x session from the cli it tells me im not alloud to do that03:45
Daisuke-Idoa second x session?03:45
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arash!microphone03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
arash!mic03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
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arashHow can I make so my microphone works?, I Also have problem with sound, my speakers ain't working...03:48
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Daisuke-Idoi'm a little concerned, jeroen hasn't been back yet03:49
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romudogEhh i hope its all good lol03:49
arashjeroen?03:49
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Daisuke-Idoright now i'm trying to figure out why i can't connect to any trackers...03:52
Daisuke-Idobrb03:52
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Daisuke_Idowell that was pointless03:54
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romudoglol03:55
romudogwhat happened?03:55
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JeroenwHi03:55
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JeroenwIt's me, jeroen_03:55
romudoghey03:56
romudogDid it work?03:56
JeroenwI'm back on my windows pc cause my Kubuntu doesn't want to boot anymore :s03:56
romudogDAMN!!!!03:56
romudogThats not good03:56
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romudogWhat error?03:57
JeroenwI see the loading screen but then a short black screen and then again a loading screen and then just a cursor03:57
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romudoghmm03:57
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Daisuke-Idothis is bs03:57
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romudogwat is?03:58
Daisuke-Idoconnection problems03:58
romudoglol03:58
Daisuke-Idocannot connect to any BT trackers :\03:58
romudogdaisuke what country u in>03:58
Daisuke-IdoUS03:58
romudogdont use Torrentspy03:58
Daisuke-Idooh hell no03:58
romudogStay safe man03:58
Daisuke-Idoi stick to private trackers, for the most part :)03:59
romudogRIAA/MPAA/Bush out to get you03:59
Daisuke-IdoOPP03:59
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romudoglol k03:59
khaije1hey all03:59
romudogI want my electronics kit to come so i can go built my subwoofers :|04:00
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khaije1whats the deal w/ emerald? I install it but it doesn't seems to do anything... even as i see it running from top04:00
Daisuke-Idodid you install beryl?04:01
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khaije1Daisuke-Ido: ya04:03
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benedekHow can I set the resolution which is used at the at the login screen?04:03
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boeroehello i am trying to install a flash player plug in for opera. after typing :  sudo ./flashplayer-installer he ask for the installer path of MOzilla .  I can not enter the right path. Can anyone tell me the installation path?04:04
JeroenwDo I have to reinstall Kubuntu? :s04:04
Daisuke-Idooh hey, you're back!04:04
romudogboeroe: First off why do you use Opera?04:04
xstHow do I rip a CD into mp3 and automatically store the songs in an "artist/album/" path? Just opening the CD (right click -> open) gives the mp3 files, but without the artist/album directory structure04:04
Daisuke-Idowhat happened?04:04
khaije1i have aiglx working now, it's just that i don't have a decorator... weird emerald doesn't seem to work...04:04
_4strO!flash04:04
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:04
boeroeseems to be fast04:04
romudogKerpenw shouldnt have to...use a livecd to fix..lol04:04
_4strO!flashplayer04:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:04
romudogJeroenw shouldnt have to04:05
Jeroenwthen what do I have to do then?04:05
Daisuke-IdoJeroenw: what in the what now?04:05
Daisuke-Idoi missed some stuff when the connection crashed04:05
romudogIt wont boot kubuntu wont04:05
Daisuke-Idoouch04:05
boeroeoke uboto will check it04:05
boeroethx04:05
romudogjeroenw tell him what u get when u try to boot04:06
Daisuke-Idowhat os are you using right now?04:06
romudogWindows he is04:06
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Jeroenwyeah but this is another computer04:06
romudogo lol04:06
romudoggd04:06
Jeroenw:p04:06
Daisuke-Idowell that will help things04:06
romudogyes it does04:06
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bchanyone have an opinion on what file system to put on a 9TB raid 0? or know any good sites to compare file systems?04:07
Jeroenwso when I try to boot, it first boots normally, I see the loading screen. But then a short black screen and then back a loading screen. And then just a cursor04:07
romudogWhats it for bch?04:07
Daisuke-IdoJeroenw: ctrl-alt-f8 or ctrl-alt-f1 do anything?04:07
JeroenwI'll try it04:07
romudogif you can drop to a cmd prompt its best :)04:08
Daisuke-Idoromudog: exactly where i'm trying to get him04:08
romudogdaisuke-ldo yes i know your 1337 im not ;P04:08
Daisuke-Idoif nothing else, he can mount his hdd from the live cd and change his video driver back to nv :)04:08
Jeroenwctrl alt F1 did something04:08
Daisuke-Idoand i'm not.04:08
Daisuke-IdoJeroenw: what something?04:08
JeroenwI could enter my username and password04:08
romudogdaisuke-ldo you are what i tell you you are and your l33t xD04:09
Daisuke-Idogood, this is good.04:09
Jeroenwand now I have like a terminal04:09
romudogYAY!!!!04:09
romudoghopefully he has emacs installed...lmfao04:09
Daisuke-Idookay, at the terminal, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:09
Daisuke-Idono need for emacs for something this simple :)04:09
Daisuke-Idopico/nano is fine :)04:09
Jeroenwok, just a sec. Ill bring my laptop to my desktop04:09
Jeroenwbrb, just switching from netwerk04:09
Jeroenwnetwork04:10
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romudogdaisuke-ldo..NOW YOU TELL ME OMFG AFTER 30 mins of hardkore work in emacs to change driver back omfg...thanks xD...lol04:10
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vendetta_lordback04:10
vendetta_lordIt's me jeroen_04:10
romudoglol04:10
Daisuke-Idookay04:11
vendetta_lordso what did I had to type ?04:11
Daisuke-Idosudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:11
Daisuke-Idobout time.04:11
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vendetta_lordok04:11
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vendetta_lordand now? I have like a config screen04:12
Daisuke_Idoscroll down to Section "Device"04:12
vendetta_lordok04:13
Daisuke_Idowhat does it say for Driver?04:13
vendetta_lordgeneric video card04:13
vendetta_lordnvidia04:13
Daisuke_Idok, change "nvidia" to "nv"04:13
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vendetta_lordok04:13
Daisuke_Idothen ctrl-o to save04:14
vendetta_lordok04:14
Daisuke_Idoand ctrl-x to exit04:14
vendetta_lordok04:14
vendetta_lordnow the menu is gone and I have the terminal again04:14
Daisuke_Idok04:14
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vendetta_lorddo I have to restart my computer?04:15
bchthe array os for storage, but I want it to be fast. hence the stripe as opposed to fault tolerance04:15
Daisuke_Idonow, 'sudo shutdown -r now'04:15
vendetta_lordok04:15
Daisuke_Ido-r is the restart option, now is when you want it done :)04:16
vendetta_lordk, it's rebooting04:16
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vendetta_lordI have the loading screen04:16
vendetta_lordand again, a short black screen and a loading screen again. and then the cursor :(04:17
Daisuke_Idoo_O04:17
Daisuke_Idoctrl-alt-f1 again04:17
vendetta_lordok04:17
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vendetta_lordi'm in the terminal04:18
Daisuke_Idolet me think here for a second...04:19
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vendetta_lordok04:19
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Daisuke_Idotry sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:19
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Arwenwhat's '-phigh' do?04:20
vendetta_lordnow I have another screen04:20
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benedekArwen: I think that depends on the command you use that option with04:21
Daisuke_IdoArwen: priority: high04:21
Arwenah04:21
Daisuke_Idoonly asks the highest-priority questions04:21
Daisuke_Ido(driver, resolution)04:21
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: what are your options?04:21
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vendetta_lordx server drivers: and then a whole list of names04:22
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Daisuke_Idoselect nv04:22
Daisuke_Idothen next04:22
vendetta_lordI also have nvidia04:22
vendetta_lordbut I'll select nv04:22
Daisuke_Idowe can work on getting 3d once your system's in working order again04:23
vendetta_lordok04:23
Daisuke_Idookay, now click the start menu04:23
Daisuke_Ido...04:23
Daisuke_Idoit's official, i read too much xkcd :)04:23
vendetta_lordnow I have to select a resolution when I selected "nv"04:23
Daisuke_Idolcd monitor?04:24
vendetta_lordno04:24
Arwenvendetta_lord, so select the resolutions your monitor supports04:24
Arwenif it's not an LCD, probably every resolution with a 4:3 ratio04:24
Daisuke_Idowhat arwen said.04:24
vendetta_lordok04:24
Daisuke_Idoprobably up to 1280x96004:24
vendetta_lordnow there appeared a terminal04:24
Arwene.g. 1600x1200, 1440x1050, 1280x960, 1152,86something, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x48004:24
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, up to 1600x120004:25
Daisuke_IdoArwen: ah, never had a monitor that would support that :D04:25
romudogAnwen: Unless its widescreen04:25
Daisuke_Idoromudog: it's a crt04:25
romudogDaisuke_ldo whats ur max rez?04:25
Daisuke_Ido1280x102404:25
Daisuke_Idolcd04:25
Arwenhehe04:25
romudogDaisuke_ldo I cant stand that man i need 1600x120004:25
ArwenI hate stupid manufacturers that can't even make displays with the right AR :-\04:25
Arwenwhat's with this 16:10 and 5:4 nonsense?04:26
vendetta_lordwhat do I have to type in the terminal?04:26
romudogArwen: i agree04:26
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: if it's already saved, you should try rebooting04:26
Daisuke_Ido(if you're at a terminal, it's saved)04:26
Arwenvendetta_lord, /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:27
Arwenprobably you want to 'modprobe -r nvidia' first though04:27
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Daisuke_IdoArwen: you would have to go and find an easier way04:27
Daisuke_Ido:P04:27
vendetta_lordmmh, so now, first reboot?04:27
Daisuke_Idoi need a cancer stick, be right back04:27
Daisuke_Idono don't reboot04:27
vendetta_lordok04:27
Daisuke_Idojust follow arwen's directions :D04:27
vendetta_lordi'm still here with the termil undernead my resolution screen04:28
Daisuke_Idomodprobe -r nvidia04:28
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Arwenvendetta_lord, ok, take it 1 sentence at a time, where are ya?04:29
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Ind[y] I first had roaming mode. It found networks. I changed to Manual settings. It didn't work. So, I changed back to roaming mode, but now it doesn't find any networks. Please, help me.04:29
vendetta_lordjust typed in modprobe......04:29
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Arwenwait, so did the dpkg-reconfigure already finish?04:29
bossyanai have a ubuntu04:31
bossyanai will ask u?04:31
vendetta_lordI think. I just click "enter when I selected my resolutions and then the terminal appeared underneath that res. screen04:31
Arwenok, then you want '/etc/init.d/kdm' stop04:32
Arwenthat will kill X if it's running04:32
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Ind[y] First, I had Roaming Mode, and it found wireless networks. I changed to Manual Settings, but it didn't work, so I decided to change back to Roaming Mode. Now it doesn't find any wireless networks. I think this is insane.04:32
BluesKajHowdy All :)04:36
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romudogHey BluesKaj :P04:36
vendetta_lordstopping K Display manager: kdm not runningkill: 140: Operation not permitted04:36
BluesKajhi romudog , bust today ?04:36
BluesKajbusy?04:36
romudogBluesKaj, not rlly...was a while ago04:36
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romudogBluesKaj dont you have work? lol04:36
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BluesKajwell some , around the house , but it's raining today ...I'm retired :)04:36
GerritWhere was it again that I can configure firefox to open a link if i middle-click and it is in the clipboard?04:36
romudogBluesKaj, Thats great...what are your hobbies? any xp with electronics?04:36
vendetta_lordArwen: What do I have to do now?04:36
BluesKajsome with audio , not real heavy stuff but built some kits in my time04:36
Arwenvendetta_lord, 'rmmod nvidia'04:36
Daisuke_Idoi'm going to restart, brb04:36
Daisuke_Idomaybe that will fix my tracker problems04:36
Arwenfinally, '/etc/init.d/kdm start'04:36
romudogBluesKaj heh Im into electronics, What kinda hobbies you have?04:36
vendetta_lordERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules04:36
GerritI found it.04:37
SanneGerrit: where? I'm looking.04:37
BluesKajfixed up a couple of old pc's and like I said did some audio kits , romudog04:37
romudogBluesKaj lol cool04:37
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vendetta_lorddamn Kubuntu, wooooooork :p04:38
romudogit does work :P04:38
BluesKajwhat about you romudog , i gather yer into electronics somewhat ?04:38
vendetta_lordnot with me :p04:38
vendetta_lordit's kinda euhm.. not booting :p04:38
romudogBluesKaj, Yes Alternative Energy, Electronics, RF/Communications, Welding, Building, Fixing...lol Comnputers...Technology.04:39
BluesKajright a true geek , romudog :)04:39
Arwenvendetta_lord, that error is ok04:39
Arwenit doesn't matter04:39
vendetta_lordow ok04:39
romudogBluesKaj, I'm proud of it too :D04:39
BluesKajright on , romudog04:39
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BluesKajromudog, I still play drums in a band , have a few local gigs every yr and get together and jam on wknds04:41
romudogBluesKaj: Ever thought of recording it?04:41
vendetta_lordI typed that ect/init.d/kdm start    ----> bash etc.init.d/kdm: file or map does not exist  (Translated it to english)04:41
GerritSanne: about:config middlemouse.contentLoadURL04:42
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GerritSanne: Apparantly, kubuntu has it turned off by default04:42
BluesKajwe have lotta recordings ...just not good enufdf audiowise yet ...still working on our sound system04:42
romudogBluesKaj, Good luck. I'm interested in hearing it if you get it all setup :)04:42
Daisuke_IdoWELL.04:43
stan_hey guys, having some trouble ewith wireless here...04:43
BluesKajwe're trying :)04:43
Daisuke_Idothat worked well04:43
stan_it only works when theres no WEP enabled04:43
SanneGerrit: ah yes, I remember. I have Firefox from mozilla.org, which has it enabled by default on Linux. Btw, do you know this page? Might interest you: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries04:43
stan_is there a way to fix it or set it up?04:43
stan_because i already looked through tons of forum posts and still no joy04:43
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start04:43
Daisuke_Idoslash between etc and init.d04:44
vendetta_lordyeah, I did that. typed it wrong on this pc but I typed it right in the terminal04:44
Daisuke_Idodid you start out with an ubuntu install and then install kde?04:44
stan_anyone?04:45
vendetta_lordno04:45
Daisuke_Idostan_: try the other wep mode04:45
vendetta_lordooow yeah04:45
stan_Daisule_Ido: which one would that be?04:45
vendetta_lordI had windows and ubuntu on my pc.04:45
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start04:45
vendetta_lordbut I deleted both to start with Kubuntu04:45
Daisuke_Idowep 40/104 bit ascii04:46
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vendetta_lordcommand not found04:46
Daisuke_IdoArwen: this making sense to you?04:47
stan_Daisuke_Ido: im gonna try this now, but one question: what difference is it between ascii and hex keys?04:47
vendetta_lordmaybe it's better to re-install Kubuntu?04:48
stan_Daisuke_Ido: i mean my key loks lie this XX-XX-XX-XX-XX04:48
Arwensorry, what?04:48
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: that's a last resort :)04:48
Daisuke_IdoArwen: apparently it can find neither kdm nor gdm04:48
stan_Daisuke_Ido is this hex or ascii?04:48
Arwenuh... maybe xdm? lol04:48
Daisuke_Ido10 numeric digits?04:48
Arwenstan_, does it have any letters after 'f'?04:49
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: bear with me...  sudo apt-get install kdm04:49
vendetta_lordok04:49
stan_Arwen: what do you mean? whether there are any letters like K or S?04:50
vendetta_lordit said that kdm is already the newest version04:50
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Daisuke_Idocd /etc/init.d04:50
Arwenvendetta_lord, are you absolutely sure you typed it right?04:50
Daisuke_Idoetc not ect, things like that04:50
Daisuke_Idostan_: exactly04:51
Daisuke_Idoif not, it's probably hex04:51
Arwenholy s*** only 170M swap free eand 50M RAM free!04:51
vendetta_lordyeah. I typed it right.04:51
stan_Arwen: no, they are only like f,a,c, e...04:51
Daisuke_Idoit's hex04:51
Daisuke_Idouse that rather than ascii04:51
Arwenprobably hex, gah, I'm screwed04:51
romudogArwen dw linux is funny about ram04:52
vendetta_lordnow I'm in /etc/init.d$04:52
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Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: just type kdm04:52
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In[d] yUbuntu 7.04. I had it to Roaming Mode, and it found Wireless Networks and it connected to mine. Nice. I changed it to Manual Settings, but they didn't work. So, what's logical? To turn it back to Roaming Mode. I did so. What do we all expect? To find Wireless Networks and connect to mine. But what happened instead? It didn't find any Wireless Network. I would be really glad if someone could explain this.04:52
romudogArwen it uses almost all of it until its needed04:52
MinatakuASCII and Hex keys are the same exact thing, except that in an ASCII key, you have half the space but can use ASCII characters04:52
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vendetta_lordonly root wants to run kdm04:52
Daisuke_Idoromudog: you're preaching to the choir :P04:52
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: then we're good04:52
Daisuke_Idosudo kdm start04:52
MinatakuThe ASCII codes for the characters are then used as the values for the hex key04:52
vendetta_lordcommand not found04:53
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vendetta_lordow04:53
MinatakuHex being a convienent way to represent 4 bit binary values04:53
romudogDaisuke_ldo sorry? I dont understand really... ive heard that term before but i forgot what it means so you can tell me so i dont gotta google define it xD04:53
vendetta_lordk04:53
Arwenromudog, I'm not a dumbass, I know that ram is used for cache..04:53
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Daisuke_Idoromudog: you're telling him what he already knows :)04:53
Arwenno, I seriously have a process eating 700M04:53
vendetta_lordstill in /etc/init.d$04:53
Daisuke_Idosudo kdm04:54
MinatakuArwen: Find it and zap it then04:54
Arwencan't system isu nresponsive04:54
romudogArwen Well excuse me...i was trying to help..maybe ill quit helping :P04:54
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MinatakuArwen: Ctrl+SysRq+E04:54
MinatakuEr04:54
MinatakuAlt+SysRq+E04:54
Arwenmagic sysreq? what's that one do?04:54
MinatakuWhich should terminate everything but init04:54
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MinatakuIf that fails, use Alt+SysRq+I04:55
MinatakuWhich sends SIGKILL to all but init04:55
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Daisuke_Idoromudog: after a little while you learn who the helpers and who the helpees are04:55
Daisuke_Idothough sometimes they swap04:55
MinatakuIf _THAT_ fails04:56
ArwenMinataku, I can't nuke the system, there's critical documents open..04:56
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Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: which I am then?04:56
vendetta_lordDaisuke_Ido: what do I have to type now?04:56
Daisuke_IdoTm_T: you're the helpER.04:56
MinatakuArwen: Well if it's unresponsive then you're pretty much screwed either way, aren't you?04:56
Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: try just sudo kdm04:56
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: thanks, you did just help me in this issue, that makes your statement false (;04:56
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Daisuke_IdoTm_T: incorrect, i mentioned that sometimes they swap.  you're a helper that asked a question :P04:57
MinatakuYou can TRY to get to a terminal and fight through04:57
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Daisuke_Idosudo kdm restart?04:57
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: bah, I knew you use that hole in the rule04:57
MinatakuOtherwise, try those, if both fail, use A+SQ+S five times, A+SQ+U, then A+SQ+B04:58
vendetta_lordstill in /etc/init.d$04:58
romudogDaisuke_ldo: Your name is 22222 long xD04:58
Daisuke_Idoctrl-alt-f704:58
MinatakuWait five seconds after each A+SQ+S04:58
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MinatakuThis is to ensure that the kernel syncs up04:58
vendetta_lordnow I have that cursor again04:58
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Daisuke_Idok, so that didn't work04:58
MinatakuThen you unmount/remount read-only and reboot04:58
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Daisuke_Idoctrl-alt-f1 to get back where you were04:58
Daisuke_Idothis is actually a very good lesson on using VTs :)04:59
killermach_how do I change the font style on the desktop icons?04:59
MinatakuIf it all goes as planned, you unmount cleanly and are able to reboot cleanly04:59
Arwenah wait, I finally managed to get it to die...04:59
Arwenstupid p7zip..04:59
vendetta_lordmaybe I better reinstall it, cause I still have to learn for my exams :p04:59
MinatakuHeh, I can't remember the last time I had anything jam up the whole system04:59
MinatakuBut then I compile my own kernels04:59
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MinatakuLinux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux04:59
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Daisuke_Idovendetta_lord: it's actually starting to look that way05:00
vendetta_lordyeah05:00
MinatakuThat "PREEMPT" is probably what keeps any one process from screwing the whole system05:00
vendetta_lordwell, I'll reboot with my kubuntu disk then05:00
ubuntu__hi05:00
Arwenlast time I tried to build a kernel it kernel panicked on boot..05:01
vendetta_lordstart of install kubuntu ^^05:01
vendetta_lordDamn, now I have to reorganise all my music, and install all those other programs again :p05:03
Arwenyou shoulda used a seperate partition for /home :-)05:03
Arwenthen you'd only have to install the programs again05:03
vendetta_lordbwa, it's not really suchs a big deal, it's just music ^^05:04
vendetta_lord5 min. work :p05:04
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Rami_If i'm installing WINE? does that make my computer open to viruses?05:04
MaTiAzno :)05:06
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Rami_ok:D05:06
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vendetta_lordomg, my dvd drive is soooo hot :s05:06
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vendetta_lordthat's not normal :D05:06
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BluesKajAFAIK Rami_ only if you have a windows partition...then the partition , like any other "windows" is a target05:06
killermach_I got it right-click Desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options05:06
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Rami_ok ok ok:D:D05:07
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Arwen"does installing WINE leave my computer open to viruses"? wtf?05:08
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vendetta_lordI think my installation is failing :s05:11
Arwenvendetta_lord, why?05:11
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vendetta_lordwhen he ask for my name and stuff It keeps loading :s05:12
vendetta_lordnever had that before05:12
dwidmann_Arwen: theoretically if you try to run a) a virus or b) internet explorer in wine, well,  what do you think would happen if you ran a virus in some manner or another05:12
Arwendwidmann_, then such virus would f--- up your wine profile and maybe any other directories you have rwx on?05:12
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Arwenor, more likely, it fails due to a lack of windows-specific functions and makes wine start eating up cpu05:13
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dwidmann_Arwen, yeah, pretty much what I would think too, though, theoretically it could hit your whole home directory, or worse case any files that you own.05:13
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dwidmann_*worst case05:13
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ArwenI suppose if you ran wine as root, lol05:14
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BluesKajheh dwidmann_, just as a rest ..i05:14
dwidmann_Arwen: yeah, plenty of things out there that fail, though, most viruses are pretty simple, I'm sure at least some could run though05:14
vendetta_lordpfff I had enough trouble for today :p05:14
Arwenheh05:14
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BluesKajI'm runnning adaware in wine05:14
vendetta_lordI'll fix it after my exams05:14
ArwenI use wine to run cygwin!05:15
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BluesKajerr test05:15
dwidmann_BluesKaj: hahaha, let me know how that works out05:15
BluesKajdwidmann_, it's running :)05:15
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ArwenI'm getting an nvidia one of these days...05:18
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mentoreee!german05:21
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:21
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BluesKajbeen looking at nividia but not being real educated in the graphics qualities and capabilities dept , I'm not sure what to look for.05:22
BluesKaj3D and DRI of course but ...what else ?05:23
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AaronCampbellWe had like 5 or 6 power outages yesterday...most were handled by my UPS, and the system was shut down fine.  At least one wasn't.  Today, I can't seem to connect to my network.  I can't even ping the router I'm plugged directly in to.  I went through the settings, and it seems right...05:27
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CaBlGuY!netscape05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netscape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
AaronCampbellI have the right static IP, the right gateway, and the interface shows as enabled.05:27
Daisuke_Idonetscape?  are you serious?05:27
CaBlGuYdon't ask..   :?05:27
Daisuke_Idoone of those things...  i completely understand05:28
BluesKajAaronCampbell, I hate to state the obvious , but did you try rebooting the router ?05:28
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CaBlGuYnot one of those things I gotta do by choice...05:28
Arwennutscrape? where? o.O05:28
AaronCampbellI did, but everyone else can connect to it fine (including the windows laptop I'm on right now)05:28
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AaronCampbellAre there any diagnostic apps that can see what's going wrong?  I mean, normally I might trace the route, but I know it doesn't make the first hop, so that's useless05:33
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bestiALEhi, i'd like to know if there is any OpenGL headers package under Kubuntu, because I can't find it in standard repositories05:33
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nosrednaekimbestiALE: should be "libgl or something"-dev05:33
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bestiALEnosrednaekim: tnx, i'm going to try...05:33
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BluesKajOpenGL Utility Toolkit-freeglut3 , bestiALE ...there are some others too05:35
bestiALEi found libgl1-mesa-dev05:36
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bestiALEi need it to compile wine05:37
bestiALEi mean, i need opengl headers to compile wine05:37
nosrednaekimbestiALE: I think that is it.05:37
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Gunner74AaronCampbell: Dumb Q, but have you tried rebooting the system thats having trouble?05:38
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bestiALEi'll try both, tnx ;-)05:38
AaronCampbellGunner74, a few times05:38
nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: whats the problem?05:39
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: We had like 5 or 6 power outages yesterday...most were handled by my UPS, and the system was shut down fine.  At least one wasn't.  Today, I can't seem to connect to my network.  I can't even ping the router I'm plugged directly in to.  I went through the settings, and it seems right...05:39
Gunner74AaronCampbell: was the router hooked up to the UPS?  And have you tried connecting to a different port?05:39
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: I have the right static IP, the right gateway, and the interface shows as enabled.05:40
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AaronCampbellGunner74, yes, and yes.  I swapped it with the port this laptop was connected to...the laptop works in it's port, but it doesn't work in the laptops old port05:40
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nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: did you totally reset the router?05:41
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nosrednaekimour router was messed up like that... just had to do a completereset05:41
jeaninehello... can anyone tell me how to get / install / use ndis wrapper>05:41
jeanine?05:42
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: The router works fine...3 other computers are on the internet using it now.  It's what I'm using right now05:42
jeaninecan I get it with the console?05:43
nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: hmm, this machine you are on... was it plugged into the ethernet when the surges and outages were going on?05:43
nosrednaekimjeanine: sure05:43
AaronCampbellyes05:43
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nosrednaekimsorry AaronCampbell, got disconnected, did you say something05:45
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joe4288hey i cant seem to get w32codecs05:46
AaronCampbellI said yes, the laptop and the other desktops were plugged into it at the time05:46
joe4288i was wondering if i could use the codecs from my windows machine?05:46
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Gunner74AaronCampbell: Got an extra nic laying around?  Could be that.05:47
CraZy675when I try to run swiftfox I get the error: Segmentation fault (core dumped)05:47
CraZy675that sounds really bad05:47
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joe4288does any 1 know if i can use the codecs from my windows machince05:47
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joe4288i cant seem do download w32codecs05:47
nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: shorted NIC?05:47
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nosrednaekimjoe4288: did you use the seveas repo?05:48
joe4288nosrednaekim: i put in some repo not sure which 105:48
nosrednaekim!seveas05:48
joe4288nosrednaekim: if you could post the repo you got i would use it05:48
nosrednaekim!seveas | joe428805:49
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ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:49
ubotujoe4288: please see above05:49
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joe4288ok05:49
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nosrednaekim!botsnack05:53
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:53
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bonbonthejonyummy05:53
BluesKajdwidmann, adaware ran the windows partition but froze after trying the ext3 libs05:53
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dwidmannBluesKaj: hmm, figures it'd crash when it tried to scan that I suppose05:55
AFaithhello there my fellows05:56
BluesKajdwidmann, hehe yeah , interesting that it even attempted it.05:56
AFaithi've got a problem a couple of days with beryl05:56
AFaithanyone knows whats the problem ?05:56
AFaithwait a second05:56
AFaithto send you a couple of pictures05:56
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AFaithhttp://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=247049&view=findpost&p=2950999 ---> here it is05:57
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nosrednaekimloking AFaith05:58
nosrednaekimAFaith: you may want to go over to #ubuntu-effects05:58
Daisuke_Idothat and i have no desire to register for a forum to look at a screenshot.05:59
AFaithok then nosrednaekim! thanks for the tip:P05:59
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nosrednaekimAFaith: can't look at them. I'm not a softpedia member05:59
AFaithDaisuke_Ido: oh ... i might forgotten that little inconvence05:59
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: I just tried 2 other nics...something is wrong here, because it still doesn't work05:59
AFaithgimme a couple of secounds to post them on imageshak06:00
AFaithimageshack*06:00
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nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: did you totally reset the router?06:00
thevanyone know what "wrong input (flag != 4) at admin/conf.change.pl line 117, <> line 1234" means when trying to ./configure?06:00
nosrednaekimthev: what program?06:00
Gunner74nosrednaekim: I don't think it's the router.06:01
thevkiomtp06:01
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: I can't...there are 3 other people using it right now.  It works fine for them...so I doubt that's the issue06:01
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nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: you never know...Like I said b4, ours was acting weird, letting some people use it, some not.06:02
thevAaronCampbell: I've seen the same thing on different routers06:02
thevthey can be strange little beasties06:02
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Gunner74AaronCampbell: Are you using static ip's?06:02
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AaronCampbellGunner74: yes06:03
thevnosrednaekim - I'm trying to install KioMTP06:03
Gunner74AaronCampbell: Try a different one?06:03
thevso I can actually browse the file structure of my Creative Zen06:03
ubuntu__hey every body06:03
AaronCampbellyeah..I tried 3  .1, .2, and .306:03
nosrednaekimthev: it looks like an error in the makefile06:04
ubuntu__new to this ubuntu linux in general06:04
nosrednaekimubuntu__: ok.06:04
thevnosrednaekim - great - anything I can do to fix it?06:04
thevor am I screwed06:05
nosrednaekimthev: thats a konqueror plugin right?06:05
nosrednaekimlibMTP doesn't do it for you?06:05
thevnosrednaekim: yeah it's supposed to be06:05
thevlibMTP is installed... but I dunno how to use konqueror with it06:05
thevI mean, Amarok works with it fine, but can only see songs06:06
ubuntu__what is the easiest distro for an x window user ??06:06
nosrednaekimthev: all i've heard about is libMTP and amarok.06:06
thevI'm trying to get at the photos06:06
nosrednaekimubuntu__: kubuntu ;)06:06
thevdigiKam will read it as well, but ALL of it06:06
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nosrednaekimubuntu__: actually, ubuntu might be easier06:06
Minatakuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecsu13U5VuI&mode=related&search=06:06
nosrednaekimthev: I don't know...06:06
trakinasubuntu__: *ubuntu and kurumin. but kurumin is a brazilian one. if you speak portuguese... =P06:07
MinatakuOops, wrong channel06:07
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AaronCampbellGunner74, nosrednaekim: I was just able to get the wireless network connected...06:07
AaronCampbellSure feels slow after having gigabit for so long06:07
nosrednaekimAaronCampbell: was that not working b4?06:07
trakinasthev: in anycase, look into Tux Mobile page06:07
AaronCampbellnosrednaekim: hadn't used it...it's been disabled since I got the computer06:07
MinatakuIt's completely safe if you want to see it, though06:07
thevnosrednaekim - it's making me crazy.  If digikam can read the whole thing, why can't I just tell it a specific dir to look in?  You can only do that for Mass USB for some reason06:07
thevtrakinas - tux mobile?06:08
MinatakuI doubt anyone would really be offended by an EBS test from the 80s06:08
ubuntu__thanxs for the help...................jeeeezzzzz06:08
nosrednaekimthev: maybe you can.06:08
nosrednaekimubuntu__: huh?06:08
trakinasthev: it is a page about mobile devices on linux.06:08
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thevtrakinas - ok, I'll look, thanks!06:08
trakinasthev: you are welcome.06:08
Gunner74AaronCampbell: Now that's just annoying.... Don't know why the hard-wire connection isn't working.06:09
joe4288does any 1 know how to get the seveas key becayse gpg cant seem to find the server for the key06:09
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nosrednaekimjoe4288: you really don't NEED the key06:10
trakinasthey have tips there. you will probably find somethings, although if creative zen is compilent with usb mass storage, it should automaticaly be mounted and found. at least, i never had any problems with pen-drives and some mp3 players devices.06:10
thevtrakinas - it's a MTP device06:10
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thevthat's the problem06:10
AFaithnosrednaekim & Daisuke_Ido : tell me if you can access this picture : http://www.flickr.com/photos/45051637@N00/570003148/06:10
joe4288nosrednaekim: yea but i dont like to see error messages06:10
thevif it was mass storage, no problem06:10
joe4288nosrednaekim: im going to try wget06:10
trakinasthat makes me sad too. :/06:10
trakinasi was considering by one. heeh06:10
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thevit's a great player06:11
Gunner74AaronCampbell: Is this a laptop?06:11
thevif you run windows :p06:11
trakinaslol06:11
Daisuke_Idoyes06:11
trakinasso im, again, considering buy cowon iaudio... it plays ape files, flac, ogg..06:11
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AaronCampbellGunner74: no06:11
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thevI think complete support is pretty close though, like I said before Amarok has no issues transferring music to and from06:11
thevbut it's the photos I want to access06:12
trakinasyep. i read some of your msgs. =P06:12
thevbecause it does USB host, and I can upload my DSLR shots in the field to it06:12
Daisuke_Idopicked up a sandisk sansa e260, definitely worth it, MSC and MTP modes :)06:12
thevyeah I needed something that did USB host too06:12
Daisuke_IdoAFaith: that happens, some of the themes are screwed up06:13
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stan_ok, following problem: after restart i loose the internet connection... only if i go to k > system settings > network settings, select the device, disable it and then enable it again, i have my connection back. im using wireless... any clues?..06:13
AFaithDaisuke_Ido: it happened oth in pclos & ubunu 7.04 & 6.10 and it also happened with to a couple of friends06:14
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thevstan - yeah I was having that issue too06:14
thevare you using NDISWrapper with a broadcom card?06:15
stan_anyone? ive struggling with this the whole day already... :((06:16
stan_thev: no06:16
Daisuke_IdoAFaith: happened to me too, it's not a huge deal06:16
stan_thev: what is it?06:16
thevwhat kind of wireless card do you have?06:17
AFaithDaisuke_Ido: what should i do ?06:17
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stan_thev: its intel something, where can i check it out exactly?06:18
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Assidheya06:18
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thevstan: if it's Intel then I can't help you, your problem is probably different from mine06:19
stan_mm06:19
stan_i see06:19
stan_thanks anyway06:19
Assidheya06:20
Assidcan someone help me with this.. i keep running into the fonts behaving a little odd06:21
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Assidi've enabled anti aliasing and subpixel06:21
Assidit works somewhat.. but still acting strange06:22
trakinasAssid: lcd monitor?06:22
joe4288hi im having trouble here06:22
joe4288i install the seveas repo06:22
Assidtrakinas, yessir06:23
joe4288but i cant seem to use there packages06:23
Gerrithello world06:23
joe4288i type w32codec and its says another package talks about it but its not there06:23
trakinasAssid: i read once something about which fonts are great for lcd. cant remember right now where. :/06:23
joe4288i put the repo in /etc/apt/sources.list did i do something wrong?06:23
trakinaspaste-bin your sources in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:24
trakinasi will read it asap. in the meanwhile, someone can help you. Lunch time now. =P06:24
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joe4288trakinas:06:25
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joe4288trakinas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26280/06:25
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qmrHow do I have konq. remember passwords without using kde wallet ?06:27
BluesKajjoe4288, have you done a 'sudo apt-get update' , since you added the repos ?06:27
joe4288lol of course06:27
Gunner74AaronCampbell: Sorry, I can't think of anything else to help.06:27
BluesKajwell, I had to ask :)06:27
thevjoe4288 - I don't see the seveas repos in the sources list06:28
joe4288np06:28
joe4288its the playboymansion 106:28
BluesKajit's not there06:28
joe4288the american 1 didnt work so i had to put in the uk 106:28
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thevAll I see are the standard repos06:28
BluesKajjoe4288,did you click 'save' after adding the repos to the sources list ?06:29
joe4288opps forgot to post it06:29
joe4288lol06:29
joe4288no just when i copyed it i didnt scroll down06:29
BluesKajI ahad to ask that too06:29
Assidokay gonna try something06:29
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joe4288http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26282/ there you go06:30
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joe4288you guys take a look at it?06:32
AaronCampbellThanks Gunner74 ...I remember having some sort of issue with this when I installed the feisty beta (wireless worked, but wired didn't).06:32
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aaroncampbell_Of course, at that time, everyone in the +1 channel knew exactly what I was talking about...06:33
BluesKajjoe4288, try this repos site ,i know you can get the w32codecs there : http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php06:33
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joe4288lol another repo to add06:33
BluesKajseveas seems not to be working ATM06:34
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joe4288well i dont know ill add this 1 and see what happens06:34
qmrHow do I have konq. remember passwords without using kde wallet ?06:35
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joe4288BluesKaj: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/06:36
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joe4288BluesKaj: youd take a look06:40
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joe4288ok guys heres my problem no matter what repo i add to sources.list they dont work06:42
joe4288i can apt-get update them06:42
joe4288and they show up but i cant seem to get any packages from them06:43
joe4288any ideas any 1?06:43
Tm_Tjoe4288: how about telling exact error?06:43
Tm_Tjoe4288: and use pastebin for larger texts06:43
joe4288http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/06:43
qmrgmail doesn't work in konq.!  help?  it shows a lot of mail looking text, but it's not formatted right, and is all one long runon line06:44
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joe4288Tm_T: so any ideas?06:45
savetheWorldqmr - I reccomend firefox06:45
alesanhi I am watching the log in /var/log/messages and I see there is a kind of timestamp in earch line that looks like this:06:45
Tm_Tqmr: hum?06:45
alesan<1182271505395>06:45
qmrfirefox launches too slow though06:45
alesanwhat exactly is that?06:45
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Tm_Tqmr: works well here06:46
savetheWorldalsmy guess would be an epoch timestamp06:46
Komsipqmr: it will work right if you set konq to identify as firefox06:46
alesanhow do I create such timestamp?06:46
Komsipat least for me06:46
savetheWorldalesan:  guess would be an epoch timestamp06:46
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Tm_Tjoe4288: have you run apt-get update?06:46
alesansave, the number of secodns since 1970-01-01?06:46
savetheWorldalesan: see the date command06:46
Tm_Tjoe4288: please give full output of it to me (:06:46
alesanthanks06:46
joe4288Tm_T: sure np06:47
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zoohouseHow do I see which mods are running?06:47
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Tm_Tzoohouse: pardon?06:48
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joe4444anyone know about setting up TwinView for dual displays in Feisty?06:48
Gunner74zoohouse: Mods????06:48
joe4288Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/06:48
zoohousemodules06:49
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zoohouseIm not sure if im spelling it correctly..06:49
Tm_Tzoohouse: you mean kernel modules?06:49
zoohouseTm_T: yea06:49
Tm_Tzoohouse: lsmod perhaps06:49
Tm_Tjoe4288: interesting06:50
zoohousethank you06:50
joe4288Tm_T: see what i mean its there in the soucre.list it updates but i cant seem to use the packages from those websites06:50
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joe4288Tm_T: i even get there gpg keys06:50
Tm_Tjoe4288: apt-cache search 32codecs ?06:51
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joe4288nothing06:51
Tm_T!info w32codecs06:51
ubotuw32codecs: Win32 codec binaries. In component extras, is optional. Version 20061022-1~seveas1 (feisty-seveas), package size 13920 kB, installed size 33580 kB (Only available for i386)06:51
Tm_Thumm06:52
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joe4288so your saying that i cant download it because im using amd64 not i386?06:52
Tm_Twell exactly06:52
joe4288ROFLMAO!!!!!!!06:53
Tm_TI wonder why that didn't come to my mind06:53
jhutchins_ltjoe4288: You would need win64codecs06:53
Tm_T!info w64codecs06:53
joe4288ill try it06:53
ubotuPackage w64codecs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:53
Tm_T!botsnack06:53
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:53
Tm_Thah06:53
jhutchins_ltI don't believe they exist.06:53
joe4288well what do you know w64codecs works LOL!!!!06:53
jhutchins_lt!find w64codecs06:54
Tm_Tjoe4288: well because those would be built to 64 bit system06:54
ubotuPackage/file w64codecs does not exist in feisty06:54
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Tm_Tjoe4288: blame MS or whatever, actually, blame yourself (:06:54
joe4288look please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26292/06:54
jhutchins_ltjoe4288: Did you find them somewhere?06:54
Tm_Tglad I don't have to worry that06:54
joe4288lol i cant belive no 1 thought about me being on 64 bit not 32 lol06:55
joe4288dam 64 bit causes so much trouble06:55
jhutchins_lt'mazing.  They keep working on this stuff and making progress.06:55
jhutchins_ltjoe4288: I know that several months ago there wasn't any such thing.06:55
Tm_Tjoe4288: well, I don't have any 64 bit hardware06:56
joe4288yea so if you guys hear any 1 haveing trouble let them know w64codecs06:56
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jhutchins_ltSome of the players like mplayer have stopped using seperate codecs and include their own demux support.06:56
joe4288well when i built this comp it was the cheapest processor and board i could get06:56
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jhutchins_ltThat's what I had heard was working, but good to know they've got the codecs now.06:56
joe4288amd64 400006:56
joe4288it quick runs great06:57
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Tm_Tjoe4288: heh, well, my newest hardware is from 2004 or so06:57
joe4288(dont have 64 bit windoes so im using 32bit windows)06:57
joe4288well my old comp was from 02 but that damned dell blow up06:57
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joe4288well thanks every 1 im off06:58
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alesanis there a way to tell syslog to log the messages from a particular process in a separate file?06:58
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alesanI'm running a weather station software and I'd like to keep the logs separated from the system06:59
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jhutchins_ltalesan: That should be something you can configure within the weather station software.07:01
alesanfrom what I understand of the syslog system that should be the sys daemon to take care which file he writes what07:02
jhutchins_ltalesan: At worst it would mean modifying the source code and recompiling, but it might also be a compile time switch.07:02
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alesanI could modify the weather station software but I somewhat doubt I can solve from there07:03
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ArwenDAMN IT07:03
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sivajihi07:04
jhutchins_ltArwen: You're scaring the children.07:04
Arwensorry07:04
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Arwenjust that I realized how many things I have to manually compile since I installed an svn ffmpeg..07:05
jhutchins_ltArwen: Heh.  No batch file supplied, eh?07:05
Arwenheh, dependencies :-\07:05
Arwentime to recompile mplayer, vlc, and transcode07:05
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sivajihi07:06
DarlMcBrideHello, I am Darl McBride.07:06
Arwenyes, we figured that07:06
jhutchins_ltalesan: It depends on what level/channel of the syslog daemon the program is writing.07:06
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Arwen!hello07:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:06
Arwen...07:06
Tm_T!hi07:06
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mutt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:06
Tm_TArwen: muhahaha07:06
ArwenHello, world!07:06
Arwenhah, beat that07:06
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:06
Arwen!bot07:06
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Arwen..where's the abuse factoid?07:07
Tm_T!botabuse07:07
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:07
Tm_TArwen: fine now?07:07
Arwenyeah07:07
DarlMcBrideI'm here because #ubuntu banned me. Those ops have no sense of humor.07:07
Arwenhaha07:07
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Arwensame here, actually :-)07:08
sivaji<Arwen>  u gone mad07:08
jhutchins_ltDarlMcBride: Pretty much the same ops.07:08
Arwenna, Seveas just likes to hold personal grudges... I've been banned for a year now07:08
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DarlMcBride:)07:08
Daisuke_Idousing the name "darl mcbride" certainly isn't going to win you any friends :D07:09
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alesanjhutchins_lt, tha syslog call in C should be "syslog" right? I can't grep it in the source07:09
alesanwho is darl mcbride?07:09
DarlMcBrideWell, in #ubuntu I was warning users that they could be sued because Mark Shuttleworth is refusing to partner with Microsoft. Hardly trolling.07:10
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DarlMcBridemc44 had no sense of humor.07:10
Arwenhah07:10
Tm_TDarlMcBride: if you have issues with ops, hit #ubuntu-ops but not here thanks07:10
Arwenof course, since #ubuntu-ops is run by the ops, going there won't solve anything07:10
DarlMcBrideI'l try it.07:11
Tm_Tonly way to solve it07:11
Tm_Tthis is not the place for that07:11
DarlMcBrideMaybe I can tell them about RMS.07:11
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ArwenDarlMcBride, your IP address is 66.243.207.242! We're coming to find you!07:11
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beardbari am trying to install programs with adept installer, fresh install of kubuntu, but everything no installed is grayed out and not clickable, how can i fix?07:13
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Arwenbeardbar, I'm not too familiar with adept, can you give me a screenshot?07:13
Gunner74beardbar: Have you tried right-clicking?07:14
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beardbararwen: ill try to get a screenshot to you07:14
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beardbargunner: yes, nothing comes up07:14
vlad88beardbar. did you click on the "ignore" button when opening Adept?07:14
kotelo:O!07:14
bankseyHi all, Does Kubuntu come with Cedgea?07:14
Arwenbanksey, no. And it never will.07:15
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beardbarvlad: no i typed in my root pw and hit ok07:15
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koujihello how do I install kubuntu in ubuntu without the kde apps showing in gnome menu and vice versa?07:15
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banksey@Arwen, LOL Kk, Jus gonna have to bye it then, Ty :)07:15
Arwenkouji, you don't.07:15
Arwen!lol | banksey07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
Arwen...07:15
Tm_Tbanksey: you can always install Cedega separately07:15
koteloi just come to this channel to say what i love debian and i am using kubuntu only for the buttons and headphones of my notebook, in my desktop i use debian :)07:16
Arwen!u | banksey07:16
koteloxD07:16
ubotubanksey: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..07:16
kotelosorry07:16
koteloxD07:16
kotelocya07:16
Tm_TArwen: please, that's not useful anymore07:16
Arwenhmm?07:16
Dr_willisheh.07:16
Tm_Tabusing bot all the time07:16
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koteloi just come to this channel to say what i love debian and i am using kubuntu only for the buttons and headphones of my notebook, in my desktop i use debian :)07:16
Arwenkotelo, we already heard you. But that's nice.07:16
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savetheWorldArwen: also I have to disagree with u about that issue. :-)07:17
dwidmannpoor poor abused bot :P07:17
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Arwendwidmann, child protective services time?07:17
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vlad88beardbar: is Adept fully loaded?, it takes a while on loading the app database...07:17
Arwenbeardbar, and did you hit the "update" button yet?07:18
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Arwenthe first time it loads it should be nice and useless07:18
beardbarvlad: im pretty sure it is07:18
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beardbararwen: wheres the update button?07:20
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Gunner74beardbar: new install?07:20
Arwennever mind, I must not know what I'm talking about.07:20
beardbargunner: yes07:20
coloniaCan I share files and printers with a windows system?07:20
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coloniaI mean, a windows system letting me use there files07:21
jhutchins_ltI think a limited use of IM slang works here, but it is an international channel, and communicating clearly does make a difference in how seriously you'll be taken.07:21
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koujihow can I replace the default iconset with a new one? I've changed icon sets but some of them still remain07:21
jhutchins_ltcolonia: Yes, it may be easiest to use samba for it.07:22
vlad88beardbar: there was no warning about other app blocking the database?07:22
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beardbarvlad: im going to restart here but no, basically i click on the add/remove programs from the menu, it asks me to run as root i type in my password: adept loads no other warnings, but i cannot install anything new, everything is grayed out accept those programs that are installed07:23
jhutchins_ltcolonia: There's probably something on the wiki about it...07:23
vlad88beardbar: the update button Arwen talks about is the first on the left,(the one which looks like the refresh button in browsers)07:23
coloniathanks, Im going to read a bit07:23
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beardbarvlad: thats adept package manager isnt it?07:24
DarlMcBrideQuitting...07:24
koujiHello how can I make Nautilus like frame surround the picture thumbnails in konq?07:24
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Daisuke_Idowhy would you want to?07:24
koujiit looks so much better07:24
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jhutchins_ltcolonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:24
timmay!vnc07:25
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX07:25
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fusiogen!fr07:25
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:26
fusiogenyeah07:26
vlad88beardbar: yes.07:26
Gunner74beardbar: try using <system> adept from the menu instead of <add/remove programs>07:27
coloniaThanks, jhutchins_lt07:27
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Daisuke_Idokouji: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/getting-started-guide/figs/images/nautilus1.png07:27
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Daisuke_Idolike that?07:28
Gunner74beardbar: I've never tried the <add/remove> , I just go to adept directly.07:28
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koujicorrect....thats an older version of nautilus I believe, the new one looks so much better :)07:29
Daisuke_Idoi'm not sure you can, actually07:29
Daisuke_Idoi've seen no settings to configure how it deals with thumbnails except for size07:30
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koujiI guess so, though I've seen it done in some screenshots over at kde look....perhaps its a hack of some sort07:31
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koujithanks for your assistance07:31
jhutchins_ltMight be buried deep in styles, decorations, widgets, etc/07:32
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jhutchins_ltkouji: Someone in #kde might know/07:32
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epimethhow would I rename all *.html to just * ?07:41
epimethI tried $rename .html '' *07:41
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epimethbut I get a syntax error07:42
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killtohas anyone successfully installed a mobility radeon x700 an a laptop (FSC Amilo 1667G)07:43
alesankubuntu has syslog or syslog-ng ???07:43
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vlad88alesan: there's Ksystemlog07:45
alesanvlad88, syslogd -v gives 1.4.107:46
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amnesiac_hai folks whats up ??07:49
fredrik_this is funny.. i just installed kubuntu but to become root through su needs a password and I have not set one?07:50
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vlad88fredrik_:07:50
fredrik_no pass seem to work :P07:50
vlad88why you need su if you have sudo?07:51
fredrik_true. so sudo will work?07:51
vlad88fredrik_:  you can set the root password with "sudo passwd root"07:51
fredrik_perfect07:51
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amnesiac_sudo passwd root dude07:51
fredrik_i like to work as root :-)07:51
amnesiac_never work in he root07:52
amnesiac_very dangerous07:52
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amnesiac_you need the auth as safety07:52
zencohi07:53
fredrik_:)07:53
amnesiac_i hack your debian in about " min with ssh when you work in the root07:53
amnesiac_so not safe07:53
fredrik_no way07:53
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fredrik_how could it be that easy?07:53
landleyIs anybody else having the problem that Konqueror's "tab scroll left" button is  NOP?07:54
landleyThe "scroll tabs right" button works fine, but they won't go back left unless I close tabs.07:54
epimethhow would I rename all *.html to just * ?07:54
epimethI tried $rename .html '' *07:54
epimethbut I get a syntax error07:54
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amnesiac_when ther is no password for the kernel ther is nothing to crack .that easy thus07:57
landleyCan anyone else scroll konqueror tabs to the left?07:58
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amnesiac_when your working under a suid hackers need the famous rootkit to make entry in the root07:58
landley(Is there a key sequence or something, for when the button doesn't work?)07:58
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landleyAh, mouse wheel!07:59
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landleyOk, I have a workaround.  It's still a nasty bug which should be fixed, though.07:59
fredrik_but actually i don't have anything to loose :)07:59
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amnesiac_then you have nothing to fear only your privacy fredrik08:01
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amnesiac_hai greg08:03
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snakehallo08:04
greg_ghello?08:04
greg_gforgive me if I know your nickname08:04
amnesiac_hai snake08:04
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Grantuh, how do I fix the Java issue with Beryl? the windows are blank08:05
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CJarihi, I started of from 7.04 CD but it doesnt detect the wireless atheros networking card08:08
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zipperCan anyone recommend an alternative to KTorrent?08:11
nelson_why are you looking for an alternative to ktorrent?08:12
GrantAzereus08:12
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zipperazereus is bloated08:17
zippernelson_, ktorrent crashes too often08:17
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trakinaszipper: i used to like bittorrent default gtk client. simple and stable.08:19
zipperi'll have a look, thanks08:20
SQUALL2hi .i am new in this channel .can any1 tell me what this channel deal with?08:21
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greg_gas in the topic: Kubuntu Support Channel08:22
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SQUALL2hasan2.are u arabic? if i may ask?08:23
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greg_gthis channel seems really quiet for some reason08:24
SQUALL2i agree08:24
nosrednaekimcause there is no one looking for help.08:25
nosrednaekimSQUALL2: do you use Linux?08:25
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SQUALL2no .im not i use windows08:25
nosrednaekimSQUALL2: are you interested in Linux?08:25
SQUALL2well .may be .but i cant use it08:26
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CJariwhat shoud I do when the 7.04 doesn't automatically configure my wireless network card?08:27
nosrednaekimCJari: configure it manually ;)08:27
CJariis there a way to find out why the interface is not created, why the drivers are not loaded?08:27
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nosrednaekimCJari: what is your wireless CHIPSET?08:27
nosrednaekimsorry.. caps08:27
CJarinosrednaekim : the manual configuration thing doesnt show the card...08:27
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SQUALL208:28
nosrednaekimCJari: I mean manual as in command line :)08:28
CJarinosrednaekim : I think it's atheros, unless that's just the manufactor08:28
nosrednaekimCJari: no, thats a chipset manufacturer08:28
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BluesKaj!wirelss | CJari08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wirelss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
amnesiac__atheros is a prismchip i believe08:28
BluesKaj!wireless | CJari08:29
ubotuCJari: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:29
nosrednaekimCJari: run "ifconfig" and see if it gives you anything other than eth0 and lo08:29
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nosrednaekimamnesiac__: no, its its own chipset08:29
SQUALL2hasan2?08:29
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amnesiac__you need ralink workaround to get it working08:29
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BluesKaj!ar08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
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nosrednaekimamnesiac__: no you don't!08:30
CJarithank you, I have to continue from here tomorrow08:30
SQUALL2hasan208:30
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amnesiac__google 2 rtx00 wikipedia for wireless drivers08:31
nosrednaekimamnesiac__: do you mean working with network manager? or do you mean working with linux?08:31
amnesiac__i thin kyou need the rt2400 driver from rt08:31
amnesiac__rtx0008:31
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nosrednaekimamnesiac__: no, atheros is covered by the madwifi driver08:32
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amnesiac__ya right  my fault madwifi08:32
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amnesiac__then ther is no problem i thing support madwifi is very trong08:32
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amnesiac__strong08:33
nosrednaekimamnesiac__: yeah, its pretty good as long as you don't have a AR5005G08:33
nosrednaekim(which is what I have)08:33
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CJarithanks everyone08:34
amnesiac__hahaha i first look at the hardware that debian likes and then i buy it hihihi08:34
CJaribtw, my CD drive is really slow, is it some way to use cache or something?08:34
nosrednaekimCJari: did you figure it out?08:34
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CJarinosrednaekim : not yet, just going through the docs08:34
nosrednaekimCJari: you on the liveCD?08:34
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CJarinosrednaekim : well I have the desktop CD, which I thought was the only one08:35
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nosrednaekimCJari: but you're running off the cd? right now?08:35
CJarinosrednaekim : not right now, its just slow and its on other PC08:35
notlabledAs of default here, knetworkmanager is started because its never closed, and still in my session when i log off. Id like the manager to start before every other program in my session needing network, if i add it to ~/.kde/Autostart/ would it start before the session managed programs?08:36
CJari*so slow08:36
nosrednaekimCJari: ah ok.08:36
amnesiac__greetz to all over and out for now ---gone to eat08:36
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BluesKajnotlabled, I think knetwormanager is on autostart by default and starts before your sessions08:38
K-RyanHey guys my friend can't remember his password on Kubuntu08:38
K-RyanI've got him booted on his Live CD right now08:38
K-RyanHow can we get/change his pass?08:38
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: easy, chroot into the linux partition08:38
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K-RyanUmm?08:39
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notlabledBluesKaj: it doesnt here, kopete always starts before knetworkmanager im afraid. And kopete throws out a few annoying popup error msgs when starting without network08:39
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, what partition is his linux install on?08:39
K-RyanHold on I don't deal with his laptop often.08:39
emanueledsf08:39
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emanuelexcx08:41
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SolifugusHas anyone else experienced various white areas colros throughout the desktop and apps changing to vertical, baby-blue stripes periodically?08:42
SolifugusI want to know if this is a software or hardware problem..08:42
Solifugus(without re-installing)08:42
nosrednaekimSolifugus: your monitor cable plugged in al the way?08:42
SolifugusIt's a laptop08:42
nosrednaekimSolifugus: sounds like hardware.08:42
SolifugusOr an issue with X.. maybe..08:43
nosrednaekimwhich really sucks on an laptop.08:43
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nosrednaekimnot individual apps... not randomly..08:43
Taringahello08:43
nostferkarunning gaim shuts down after several seconds...08:43
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Solifugusit's only 6 mos old.. but i don't want to loose it for a week, getting repaired08:43
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Taringacant install kubuntu feisty08:43
nosrednaekimSolifugus: so does it happen over the whole desktop.just over certain apps?08:44
Taringa-ve been triying all the morning08:45
nosrednaekimnostferka: yeah, does that for me too soemtimes08:45
nosrednaekimTaringa: what does it stall on?08:45
Solifugusnosrednaekim: over the whole desktop.. including Windows XP running in VMware..08:45
Taringai downloaded the alternat08:45
nosrednaekimSolifugus: never over individual apps?08:45
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Solifugusnosrednaekim: universal over everything when it kicks in08:45
Taringay installs the sistem and it stops in 83%, in the part of installin the nucleo08:45
K-Ryannosrednaekim: /dev/hda308:45
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: mount that..08:45
Solifugusnosrednaekim: I could try a virtual console to test wether its X..08:45
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nosrednaekimSolifugus: yeah..08:45
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K-Ryanits not in fstab08:46
K-Ryando i have to put it in there? because thats a pain in the neck =/08:46
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: no...08:46
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: "sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt"08:47
nosrednaekimthen "cd mount"08:47
nosrednaekimsorry,, "cd /mnt"08:47
Taringawhat can i do?08:47
nosrednaekimTaringa: does the alternate installer fail as well?08:47
Taringayes08:48
K-RyanOk, now how would I go about changing his pass/find it?08:48
Taringathe livecd fails in the formating part08:48
Taringaand the alternta fails while installing the kernel08:48
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok whoops... do a "cd /"08:49
nosrednaekimthen a "sudo chroot /mnt"08:49
nosrednaekimnow do not close that terminal08:50
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unknownhello, is this normal not to have orthographical correction on konversation?08:50
nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: oh I recognize your name now..08:50
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nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: try a different distribution.08:50
nosrednaekimlike PClinuxOS08:51
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estebanbianchibut i cant download08:51
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estebanbianchi-cause i have no OS in mi pc08:51
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nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: oh wait, you are trying to install 5.10 aren't you?08:52
estebanbianchino 7.0408:52
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savetheWorldHi all, How do you set hostname on kubuntu (so sendmail is happy) ?08:52
nosrednaekimestebanbianchi: find someone who does have an os and get them to DL it for you.08:53
estebanbianchiyes thats good08:54
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nosrednaekimget them to DL PClinuxOS.... maybe SUSE.08:54
estebanbianchithe only chance i have is to install the oldo 5.10 to download another distro08:54
K-Ryannosrednaekim: Anything?08:54
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: oh sorry.. you ran that chroot command?08:54
K-RyanYeap08:54
nosrednaekimkinda busy here.. i'm sorry. :)08:54
K-RyanIt's ok08:55
K-RyanJust making sure you didn't forget about me08:55
nosrednaekimok, now run "passwd <his username>"08:55
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: smart... err... APT!08:55
nosrednaekim:)08:55
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K-RyanWha?08:55
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: NM..08:55
sivaji_hello08:56
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: sorry, that passwd command was intended for you08:56
nosrednaekimhello08:56
K-RyanI know08:56
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, you're done!08:57
nosrednaekimexit08:57
K-RyanYeah I'm restarting his comp to check now08:57
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K-RyanThanks08:57
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: that CHroot command is amazing... never forget it!08:58
K-RyanI don't plan on it =)08:58
nosrednaekim:-D08:58
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: you can apt-get... do anything from there.08:58
intelikeyi still haven't discovered why i get that one error message in my boot up text  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37527  line 908:58
unknowni try again, is this normal not to have orthographical correction on konversation?08:58
nosrednaekimyou are basically running that installation with the liveCD kernel08:59
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bankseyHey guys, I just installed rar, But its not giving me a option to extract using it? Any ideas?09:01
nosrednaekimunknown: what is that?09:01
nosrednaekimintelikey: wow.. thats odd..09:01
rathelI forget which file do I edit to switch to the text based login? OR Could someone tell me how I can make the login screen smaller?, It's to big for my monitor.09:01
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nosrednaekimrathel: ctrl+alt+f209:02
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unknownnosrednaekim look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konversation09:03
K-RyanOkay guys, new problem.09:03
K-RyanWhen booting Kubuntu on his laptop, it seems to freeze at the kubuntu logo09:04
KartisavetheWorld: To change hostname its as simple as sudo hostname callMeBob09:04
teezetthas someone experience with NFS?09:04
intelikeyrathel you remove  'S???dm ' symlink from /etc/rc2.d/  on sysVinit ubuntu    on upstart systems idk.09:04
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: alt+f209:04
savetheWorldKarti: Thank you.  I'm actually asking about how you set it permanently so it is set correctly at boot time?09:04
K-Ryanchris-laptop login:09:04
nosrednaekimunknown: yeah....?09:05
teezetti get "not a directory" error messages on the nfs-client09:05
K-Ryanthere seems to be no gui for logging in09:05
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: can you log in from there?09:05
K-Ryanwell i put in the temporary password09:05
michal_elo09:05
K-Ryanoh, hold on a sec...09:05
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: and...09:05
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K-Ryanit went to the command line09:05
K-Ryanno desktop though =/09:06
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"09:06
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kristina_hi, is there a way to convert a pdf to many jpgs?09:07
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: you didn't do anything else in that CHroot did you? besides the changing password?09:07
K-Ryan"stopping K Display Manager: kdm."09:07
K-Ryan"Starting " " " " "09:07
K-RyanI did nothing else09:07
K-Ryanat all09:07
nosrednaekimpop you back to the command line?09:07
nosrednaekimI mean, it completed?09:07
K-RyanYes09:07
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f709:08
K-RyanNothing's happening09:08
nosrednaekimblinking cursor?09:08
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K-Ryancommand line with the thing after word09:08
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, back to ctrl+f209:09
K-RyanThat didn't make any sense...09:09
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+f209:09
K-RyanBlinking underscore after $09:09
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: wha...09:09
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K-Ryanctrl+f2 = nada09:09
rathelSpeaking of beryl.. Will I be able to get it to work with my 9700 Pro? lol09:09
BluesKajnosrednaekim, they smell like whistling in the dark09:09
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ctrl+alt+f2 sorry09:09
K-Ryan(I'm still at the command line)09:10
intelikeyBluesKaj much so09:10
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, somethings screwy with his install...09:10
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mintyhey guys any1 use limewire?09:10
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: might want to back up all his files quick.09:10
nosrednaekimbefore continuing09:10
K-RyanHe doesn't have anything on the linux partition09:10
m-lundAnyone here, who have experienced kvm being very unstable running with hardware accelleration under Ubuntu 7.04?09:11
K-RyanJust Kubuntu09:11
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: ok, then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"09:11
nosrednaekimand then "startx"09:11
intelikeyminty !1 will answer unless U use words in place of code...09:11
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nosrednaekimm-lund: doesn't run at all for me09:11
m-lundI have installed a 7.04 from CD in a virtual machine, and it keeps crashing - not the same problem with qemu though.09:11
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BluesKajminty, I tried frostwire for about 5mins , the limewire linux version09:12
mintyhello guys does can anyone help me setting up my limwire09:12
nosrednaekimintelikey: !1...lol09:12
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BluesKaj!frostwire09:12
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:12
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intelikeynosrednaekim reply to any1 you know09:12
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BluesKaji am not just any109:13
nosrednaekimi'm some109:13
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intelikeyok every1 be haeve now09:14
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BluesKaj!windows09:14
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:14
MaTiAz:D09:14
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: what happens with a startx?09:14
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nosrednaekimhaha09:14
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K-RyanWell it kind of restarted so one sec09:14
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chris_scumhey you09:15
chris_scumhi09:15
MaTiAzMy eyes are burning now that I had to boot into Windows, putty is so cruel looking when compared to Konsole with antialiased fonts and a nice flame background09:15
MaTiAz:\09:15
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: it what?09:15
intelikeyhay ewe09:15
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chris_scumi got some trobles with amarok09:15
chris_scumlittle ones ;)09:16
K-RyanHold on I put in startx09:16
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K-Ryanxinit:   No such process (errno 3):   Server error.09:16
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: you have to stop kdm first.09:16
K-Ryanthat command was?09:16
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nosrednaekim"sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"09:16
intelikeychris_scum spell it out09:16
BluesKajchris_scum, what troubles ?09:17
chris_scumwith the tags and the covers y'know09:17
K-RyanIt put me at the Kubuntu logo09:17
chris_scumamazon works bad!09:17
chris_scumand i didnt find how to manage them from music brainz09:17
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: startx did?09:17
intelikeyK-Ryan you can switch back to the console and see the error messages09:18
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K-Ryanthe kdm stop did09:18
K-RyanI'm back there, let me put in startx09:18
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: oh yeah, thats ok09:18
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: of startx crashes, try to get us the last couple a lines09:19
K-RyanSame xinit: No such process09:19
mintynow what do i do09:19
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: you sir, have a messed up system.09:19
nosrednaekim:)09:19
K-RyanShould I reinstall Kubuntu?09:19
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nosrednaekimK-Ryan: any clue what your freind was doing before he lost is password?09:20
intelikeywho's helping minty with limewire ?09:20
K-RyanI don't think he really did anything with it09:20
mintywhen i got frost wire wot do i do with binary file?09:20
K-RyanAfter we tried to upgrade him to edgy it didn't really work09:20
intelikey!frostwire09:20
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:20
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: hmm... well something got messed up.09:20
K-RyanSo I'm just going to do a reinstall.09:20
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: yeah.09:20
intelikeyminty  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:20
BluesKajintelikey, i told him about frostwire09:21
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intelikeyBluesKaj ok he/she was asking for more info  maybe you can help there09:21
mintyya it seys bout the deb file but i cn save it09:21
mintycant*09:21
banksey_Hey guys, I jus installed RAR from Adept, And its not giving me the option to extract with it, Any one got any suggestions, Would be much apprcaiated09:22
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GameJunkieJimHello everyone09:22
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GameJunkieJimCan someone help me if I screwed up something in automatix2?09:23
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: not really.09:23
intelikeybanksey_ you can right click and select unrar as the app to open it with ?     note you may need both rar and unrar  (i sujest the free versions)09:23
GameJunkieJimOh well.09:23
nosrednaekim!automatix09:23
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:23
intelikey!info unrar-free09:23
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB09:23
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: what exactly did you do (no garuntee's that is fixable)09:23
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GameJunkieJimI tried to install vmware before I had a valid serial09:24
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: you can always go to #automatix09:24
BluesKajintelikey, minty , not really ...i used for about 5 mins and dumped it cuz it didn't work for me ...nothing but porn when i entered song titles09:24
mintyANY suggestions bluekaj09:24
GameJunkieJimI just want it to stop trying to install it09:24
BluesKajnot that I'm against porn now and then :)09:24
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minty:D09:24
fusiogen!fr09:24
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:24
intelikeyBluesKaj but that makes you the expert here.  i've not seen it.09:25
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nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: "sudo killall automatix209:25
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BluesKajminty,what form/file type  is the download ?09:25
BluesKajthe frostwire app itself09:25
mintypreferably  mp309:25
GameJunkieJimThanks nosred09:25
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: that do it?09:25
GameJunkieJimgonna try09:26
mintylike limewire had a choice on windows like audio and video09:26
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: you can get vmware from the official repositories, no need for automatix09:26
GameJunkieJimAlright09:26
mintyooops09:26
GameJunkieJimThe serial kinda borked it up09:26
minty****09:26
mintysorry09:26
mintyerm09:26
GameJunkieJimIt keeps trying to bridge a connection09:26
nosrednaekimthat command didn't do anything?09:27
GameJunkieJimNot sure09:27
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GameJunkieJimHaven't restarted it yet09:27
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nosrednaekimoh... so it stopped it?09:27
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GameJunkieJimI'm going to go to the package manager and hopefully install from there first09:27
nosrednaekimGameJunkieJim: yeah.. good idea.09:27
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GameJunkieJimThen hopefully it'll be all done09:28
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mintyblues kaj do i wna down load the tarball 109:28
GameJunkieJimI'm gonna try to restart it and hope that cures my woes09:29
BluesKajno minty, down load it from here http://www.frostwire.com/09:30
mintyya thats wot im doing09:30
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BluesKajthe .deb file minty09:31
intelikeybash: man: command not found09:32
intelikeyguess i need to install man09:32
BluesKajok minty , find the file , right click, and choose 'kubuntu package menu', install package09:32
nosrednaekimintelikey: haha you don't have MAN?09:33
intelikeynosrednaekim i don't even have a web browser installed09:33
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nosrednaekimintelikey: wow... old hardware?09:34
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intelikeyold habits09:34
intelikey:)09:34
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intelikeyyeah old hardware too but that's not why09:35
n8k99diehard309:35
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Lars_GSay do you think it'd be possible to move feisty to qt 4.3 without recompiling the whole system?09:36
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MinatakuLars_G: With Kubuntu? No.09:36
Lars_Gsigh09:40
MinatakuNo major changes are possible without breaking EVERYTHING.09:40
intelikeynosrednaekim i did this as root    " for q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get -y --purge remove $q ;done "     and went to bed.   cleaned the system out nicely  :)09:40
MinatakuIt's the price of simplicity09:40
Lars_GI wonder if I should move my workstation to gutsy09:40
MinatakuPerhaps you should use a more advanced distro?09:40
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intelikeyno un-need/wanted/used junk apps lying around now.09:40
MinatakuThat would be the only suggestion09:40
Lars_GMinataku: I wanted to move to Arch, but I was wary of the whole backup and reinstall process. I have too much data to backup09:40
chris_scumwhat to do with bin files09:40
MinatakuLars_G: You better back them up anyway09:40
Lars_GMinataku: you know. you're right.09:40
nosrednaekimLars_G: besides, Lars_Gkde3 can't use qt409:40
Minataku:309:40
Lars_G...09:40
Lars_GOH FU... I forgot I'm using kde3!! dogh09:40
Lars_Gdoh09:40
Lars_GDoooohhhh09:40
nosrednaekimheh09:40
Lars_GNevermind me09:40
Lars_Gdoh09:40
intelikey!enter09:40
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ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:40
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nosrednaekimgentoo is the solution to all the problems one never has.09:40
nosrednaekim;)09:40
Lars_Gnosrednaekim: not really09:40
n8k99he09:40
BluesKajMinataku, does gentoo have hardware recognition "issues" ?09:40
nosrednaekimJust kidding.09:40
chris_scumi got a bin file what to do with it09:40
intelikeynosrednaekim checkmate    :)09:40
MinatakuBluesKaj: No09:40
MinatakuThe only one in Gentoo who will have those issues is you09:40
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nosrednaekimintelikey: if thats "old habits" for PWNED thanx..;)09:40
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MinatakuIf you don't or misidentify it, it doesn't work09:40
nosrednaekimMinataku: and me.09:40
intelikey:)09:40
MinatakuOtherwise, if it's supported in Linux, it works.09:40
MinatakuRemember. You configure/compile the kernel09:40
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BluesKajIC Minataku, so you have to have your hardware info ducks in row befor attempting an install ...is that what you mean?09:41
intelikeyMinataku i've never used gentoo  other than apt-get install gentoo   (not the distro)   can one build all their apps as standalones ?09:41
fusiogencomman fair epour metre les drivers et activer lacceleration 3D?09:42
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nosrednaekim!fr | fusiogen09:42
ubotufusiogen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:42
fusiogennooooooooooooooooo09:42
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Sort of09:43
MinatakuYou can use lspci and such to get some of them in a row DURING install09:43
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BluesKajright09:43
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nosrednaekimMinataku: I never could get it working with my ATI card.09:43
nosrednaekimeven with proprietary drivers09:43
BluesKajuhoh09:43
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nosrednaekimand my brother(big time gentoofan) couldnt figure it out09:44
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GerritHello. The website http://www.linuxpowertop.org/download.php claims: "Currently, PowerTOP is being added by various contributors to the development versions of Debian, Gentoo and Fedora. You can use the online package install tool of your distro (apt-get/emerge/yum/etc) to install PowerTOP on those distributions." However, if I do apt-get install PowerTOP or apt-get install powertop (are package names case-sensitive?), I get no results. Is the website09:44
arekjest tu ktos z polski?09:44
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n8k99!po09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
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Minatakunosrednaekim: Probably pre- or post-support09:45
nosrednaekimGerrit: it won't work with Ubuntu fiesty09:45
MinatakuRemember, ATI friggin' blows09:45
Gerritnosrednaekim: Why not?09:45
Minataku!pl09:45
nosrednaekimMinataku: yeah I know...09:45
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:45
intelikeyGerrit yes everything is case sensitive and no this is not debian09:45
nosrednaekimGerrit: wrong kernel version09:45
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arekhi , i have question how to install firefox on ubuntu?09:45
GerritOh, ok.09:45
nosrednaekim"apt-get install firefox" arek09:45
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Gerritintelikey: Hm, but it's debian-based. Doesn't that mean I can install debian-packages?09:45
MinatakuNo09:46
MinatakuIt doesn't09:46
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intelikeyGerrit nope09:46
nosrednaekimGerrit: technically yes, but poeertop still won't work.09:46
GerritOk. So compiling it from source won't help me either.09:46
GerritThanks for telling me that before I try :)09:46
nosrednaekimGerrit: correct09:46
nosrednaekimGerrit: I already tried. ;)09:46
GerritPity though, it seemed cool.09:46
nosrednaekimGerrit: you have a laptop?09:46
GerritYes, I do.09:46
nosrednaekimyou using kubuntu?09:46
GerritAcer TravelMate 4100 widescreen.09:47
GerritYes, I am. Since Sunday.09:47
intelikeyGerrit it means that the developers used the debian repos to build this distrubition  not that anything from the debian repos can be installed without breaking all kinds of things.09:47
GerritI am impressed by kubuntu's hardware recognition. It recognised everything except my touchpad.09:47
mintyit dont hav that option09:47
nosrednaekimGerrit: I made a wattmeter for kubuntu. interested?09:47
arekwow, i never knew that linux is so much faster than windows, wow09:47
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nosrednaekimarek: can you tell?09:48
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nosrednaekimintelikey: and some os's have less overhead09:49
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inaHello everybody09:49
intelikeynosrednaekim but you are getting into the latter two points there09:49
arekjust 5 minutes ago i was useing vista...09:50
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Gerritnosrednaekim: Yes09:50
Gerritnosrednaekim: How does it work?09:50
inaI have a problem with adept and wine09:50
nosrednaekimGerrit: its a mod to guidance-power-manager09:50
nosrednaekimjust a second.09:50
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GerritIs guidance-power-manager the applet telling me I have 0:49h remaining?09:50
nosrednaekimGerrit: yeah09:50
nosrednaekimhttp://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/making-guidance-power-manager-into-a-wattmeter/09:51
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intelikeyin all fairness  the windows kernel is still pretty good at what it does.   i just don't like what it does do...   or doesn't do either for that matter09:51
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inaI treid to uninstall wine09:51
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nosrednaekimI have a standalone wattmeter too if you want more realtime analysis09:51
inabut it still seems to be installed09:51
intelikeynosrednaekim link ?09:51
chris_scumanyone has troubles with konqeror connecting to the net?09:51
GerritOh, that's a very simple mod, I could have done that myself :)09:52
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inaAdept tells me that a process is working so that I can't change a thing09:52
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intelikeynosrednaekim same page ?09:52
intelikey:)09:52
nosrednaekimintelikey: for what?09:52
intelikeyyour app09:52
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intelikeystandalone09:52
nosrednaekimoh yeah,... its linked off that tutorial09:52
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intelikey!enter | me09:52
ubotume: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:52
GerritThat's calculated from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state 'present rate', right?09:52
nosrednaekimintelikey: you need a lptop.09:52
arekwhy my konqueror won't display any pages?09:52
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chris_scumarek same as me09:53
intelikeynosrednaekim i have one.09:53
nosrednaekimGerrit: actually, its from hal but thats where /proc gets its info from... so yeah09:53
GerritOkay.09:53
arekwhat can i do?09:53
chris_scumi dont know09:53
intelikeynosrednaekim " http://tinyurl.com/24ldjf "09:53
AattilaHi! Can somebody send me a link where some older version of Skype can be downloaded?09:54
GerritAnd what is the kernel feature missing in kubuntu's 2.6.20-16-generic that will make that powertop won't work? Process-specific data on power usage?09:54
nosrednaekimintelikey:yeah.....09:54
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nosrednaekimGerrit: tickless kernel09:54
taz_us09:55
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nosrednaekimGerrit: intelikey: tell me if they work.09:55
intelikeynosrednaekim i wont actually test it today prolly09:56
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intelikeyi'm not at home right now.09:56
nosrednaekimintelikey: no problem... you see me on often enough09:56
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nosrednaekim:-P09:56
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Gerritnosrednaekim: By the way: I have only /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py, not /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager. But the modification works.09:59
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nosrednaekimGerrit: hmmm i'll check that out.10:00
nosrednaekimGerrit: my bad... i'd better fix that.10:00
nosrednaekimGerrit: it works?10:01
rathelHow do I turn off those large tooltips in the taskbar? I was looking through the appearance section in System Settings but I didn't find where it was.10:01
intelikeyyeah you need .py on   "kdesu kate /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager"10:01
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nosrednaekimintelikey: yeah10:01
nosrednaekimfixed, thanks Gerrit10:01
intelikeyrathel right click the taskbar configure10:02
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mintyblues kaj u still there10:02
intelikeyBluesKaj your phone is ringing10:03
rathelintelikey: Aw it's the Mouseover effect, thanks.10:03
mintylol10:03
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rathelMe too, the KDE one was getting in the way.. lol10:03
intelikeyminty if you use the full nick it highlights and can be set to beep fo the person you address10:03
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mintyits 2103 actually lol10:04
BluesKajminty, yup , here10:04
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mintywtf10:04
intelikeyor 14:04 or something10:04
mintyi dnt get an optiooon 2 i10:04
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mintyextract 3 file into code usr (folder) and anuva 110:04
nosrednaekimrathel: lol.10:04
Gerritnosrednaekim: However, is it technically correct? /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state has present rate 1724 mAh. It says "present voltage: 1 mV" (I don't understand that). But how does it lead to a power of 23 W?10:05
binksif i have kernel .6.20-9 install would i use 2.6.20 source or should i have 2.6.20-9 source10:05
BluesKajminty, did you download the debian/ubuntu version ?10:05
mintyya10:05
BluesKajwhere's the file located ?10:06
nosrednaekimGerrit: I have found /proc to have some odd interpretations. However, I think it is probably correct, especially if you find your estimated battery time to be approximately correct10:06
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GerritIt tends to be too low.10:06
nosrednaekimGerrit: is that with your highest powersavings on?10:06
GerritBut how is it calculated?10:06
GerritYes, it is.10:06
GerritI run at half speed.10:06
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salocinIf you are interested in an open source project, and are skilled with linux, come learn more in #salocinlinux10:06
mintyn e idea where it wud go 2?10:06
nosrednaekimGerrit: lol, i'm doing like 14 watts.10:07
mintyi opens up in ark10:07
mintyn i dunno10:07
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Gerritnosrednaekim: How old is your notebook?10:07
intelikeyA*V=W10:07
nosrednaekimGerrit: I don't know.... it comes from hal.10:07
mintylol opps im a retard10:08
nosrednaekimGerrit: 6 months, turion X2, ATI XPress110010:08
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Gerritnosrednaekim: I see. Mine is two years old, Intel Pentium M processor, ATI Radeon Mobility 700X.10:08
GerritAcer TravelMate 4100.10:08
BluesKajok minty try again  , find the file , right click, and choose 'kubuntu package menu', choose ' install package"10:08
nosrednaekimGerrit: and a 14 inch screen which helps10:08
binksshould the linux img (2.6.20-9) be the same as linux source (2.6.20)10:09
Gerritnosrednaekim: Ah, yes. Mine is widescreen.10:09
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nosrednaekimGerrit: hmm its probably the graphics.... are you using the proprietary drivers?10:09
Gerritnosrednaekim: I am now, yes. I was using the opensource ones earlier, but Google Earth was crawling.10:09
BluesKajminty, it's almost like windows , it has an installer built into it10:09
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nosrednaekimGerrit: so is mine.... but your's is probably 15inch10:09
mintyI GOT IT10:09
mintylol now wot10:09
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GerritI have closed some programs and made my screen darker.10:09
nosrednaekimGerrit: you can tell the proprietary drivers to underclock your graphics10:10
intelikeybinks as i stand under it the image is compiled from the source of the same subversion   yes.10:10
GerritIt's now 18W.10:10
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Gerritnosrednaekim: What does that mean, and what does it involve?10:10
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CJarihi10:10
nosrednaekimGerrit: getting better.10:10
GerritCan it do so dynamically?10:10
Kprofthrea1Is there a place I can find the md5 for checksum after I have downloaded?10:10
GerritI like Google Earth to run smoothly.10:10
nosrednaekimGerrit: do a "aticonfig --help | grep powerplay"10:10
GerritOk.10:10
Gerritno output10:11
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nosrednaekimpowerplay-->power10:11
intelikeyadd -i10:11
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nosrednaekimintelikey: nah..10:11
GerritPOWERplay has hits :)10:11
nosrednaekimGerrit: ah.. ok10:11
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nosrednaekimcheck if those things reduce your wattage10:12
GerritHmm, I should hack guidance-power-manager to do that for me10:12
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Gerritor has someone done that already?10:12
Kprofthrea1Is there a place I can find the md5 for checksum after I have downloaded?10:12
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nosrednaekimGerrit: that WOULD be terrifically cool..10:12
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nosrednaekimGerrit: no.10:12
CJariI'm trying to figure is the wireless network detected using the lshw command, but how while I can see it on the output how can I tell is it ok?10:12
Gerritit can't be too difficult10:12
binksintelikey: so if uname gives me 2.6.20-9 i should have 2.6.20-9 source as i have only 2.6.20 source10:12
Gerritand it's just python10:12
intelikeyKprofthrea1 checksum for what ?10:12
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nosrednaekimGerrit: no, it'd actually be really easy.10:12
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nosrednaekimI know where to put it and everything.10:12
KprofthreatFor Kubuntu Feisty10:13
intelikeyyes on the dl page10:13
GerritI don't know it yet, but I should be able to find it out soon enough.10:13
anna`rocco10:13
GerritANyway, I put my powerstate on 1 (low) now.10:13
KprofthreatThought I checked there.10:13
GerritThanks for the hint regarding setting the powerstate.10:13
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KprofthreatBrb10:13
mintywot do i do now10:13
nosrednaekimGerrit: it MIGHT actually do it automatically10:13
GerritI'm now doing 17W.10:13
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ph1gHello, I am looking for the package that contains the source code for the "regex" library. plain ol posix regex10:13
nosrednaekimGerrit: getting lower...10:13
GerritI could hack it at a lower level perhaps10:13
nosrednaekim:-D10:13
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intelikeyKprofthreat also of note    "unless you are trubbled about wasting a disk"  there is an option to test this CD at boot time of the cd   that should be ran before using the installer.10:14
Lord_Shadowanyone had any luck getting prism wlan working on a thinkpad x30?10:15
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Lord_Shadowi was able to get it to work by blacklisting a couple of modules, but I can only connect by 'sudo dhclient wlan1'10:16
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Lord_Shadownot the best solution for a kids laptop...10:17
K-RyanWhat's the easiest way to upgrade from dapper to edgy?10:17
Gerritturning off my monitor should help considerably.10:17
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nosrednaekimGerrit: saves me 1.5 watts10:17
GerritCompletely turning it off?10:17
GerritHow can you read it out :P10:17
GerritI'm at 16W.10:17
nosrednaekimGerrit: pop the screen up rel fast and check b4 it updates10:17
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GerritBut since a TV program that I want to see is about to start, it will go up considerably very soon :D10:18
nosrednaekimheh10:18
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MinatakuScrew powersaving, it's a laptop10:18
nosrednaekimI use 32 flat out max, CD and HD working...screen on highest, watching HD TV.10:18
MinatakuRun it full-tilt 24/7 like I do10:18
Minatakugenii!10:18
MinatakuLTNS!10:18
MinatakuWhere's my stuff? XD10:19
binks!upgrade | K-Ryan10:19
ubotuK-Ryan: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)10:19
nosrednaekimMinataku: yeah... compile on it while on battery10:19
MinatakuBattery?10:19
geniiMinataku Right here in a big box actually10:19
MinatakuWhat is this battery thing?10:19
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Minatakugenii: Cool :310:19
K-Ryanbinks: Thanks but I know about that, I just figured I'd ask around10:19
MinatakuMy dad will be pissed but he can screw off, I want more computers and computer equipment >:D10:19
geniiintelikey Thanks! Need it!10:19
nosrednaekimMinataku: heh.10:20
Gerritnosrednaekim: It's 27W now :O10:20
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nosrednaekimGerrit: hehe10:20
MinatakuHe calls it "junk"... I call him an "ass"10:20
nosrednaekimeh eh...10:20
nosrednaekim!language.10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
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K-Ryan!ohno10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ohno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
nosrednaekim!ohmy10:20
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:20
K-Ryanhmm, what was it...10:20
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K-RyanYeah, that one10:20
MinatakuI follow the guidelines set forth by the Federal Communications Commission for broadcast decency10:20
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MinatakuI have not broken said guidelines10:21
K-RyanThis isn't controlled by the FCC10:21
K-RyanThere are different rules.10:21
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MaTiAzI swear too much :)10:21
nosrednaekimMinataku: the FCC has the F word in it ya know... little known secret10:21
MinatakuBut if there's any hardass guideline you should follow for "family-friendly", it's the FCC's10:21
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K-RyanAnd they reserve the right to remove individuals who are a bit too naughty.10:21
MinatakuYeah, but they don't.10:21
dwidmannEureka! "find /home/blackwaltz/Music -name *.ogg -execdir vorbisgain -af {}/*.ogg +"10:21
MinatakuTurn on FOX and prove me wrong.10:22
K-RyanI'm talking about the channel10:22
MinatakuYou can't, because FOX is still there.10:22
K-RyanListen, we're just saying don't get out of hand.10:22
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MinatakuAnd I'm not10:22
intelikeyMinataku we could hardly care less what the FCC will or wont allow,  please be nice.10:22
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MinatakuI said it once and you two got bent out of shape10:22
not-Timmayi need something free to work with .psd files...gimme yer suggestions :)10:22
Minatakunot-Timmay: GIMP10:22
not-Timmay*le sigh*10:23
MinatakuIt doesn't QUITE work with them10:23
not-Timmaylol10:23
MinatakuIt can load them, but that's it10:23
MinatakuIt loads as a single picture10:23
K-RyanYou said you were following the what the FCC says as if you did nothing wrong.10:23
MinatakuBut it can save as them, too10:23
not-Timmayyea looking for something similar to adobe photoshop10:23
K-RyanNow, let's move on.10:23
MinatakuK-Ryan: According to broadcast decency guidelines, I didn't10:23
not-Timmayit's similar but can't relearn it10:23
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K-RyanBut the rules by which this channel goes are different no matter how similar they may seem.10:23
MinatakuIt says "family-friendly", I'm keeping it "family-friendly"10:24
nosrednaekimnot-Timmay: not sure if Krita can do those files but its similar in appearance to PS10:24
K-RyanSo the broadcast decency guidelines are irrelevent.10:24
dwidmannnot-Timmay: keep in mind that the GIMP can only handle simple PSDs, more complex ones will fail to load properly or just look really crappy.10:24
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MinatakuIf it can go on US prime-time TV, it's definitely "family-friendly"10:24
not-Timmayahh ok thanks10:24
K-RyanJust don't swear10:24
MinatakuFor a country with so much freedom, the airwaves have very little10:24
daquinomy usb pens dont show up when i plug them in i think my system is setup for usb2 when the hardware is really usb1 or vice versa10:24
K-RyanMinataku10:25
Minatakudaquino: They both work fine10:25
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MinatakuA USB1.1 hub will connect to USB2 hardware10:25
dwidmannMinataku: wasn't that freedom somewhat of an illusion? Step out of line with regards to things like free speach and you're definitely in trouble10:25
MinatakuTypically the USB2 hw will downgrade itself10:25
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KartisavetheWorld: If you do it that way it should stay changed ie hostname (as far as I am aware)10:26
daquinoMinataku:  im trying to plugin a pen and when i run dmesg i see no hot plug information10:26
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mentoreeee!german10:27
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:27
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Minatakudaquino: Really, now?10:27
nosrednaekimsee ya'll..... Gerrit, have fun trying to get the lest wattage ;) I gotcha beat!10:27
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MinatakuThat DOES indicate a problem10:27
nosrednaekimif you beat me... post on my blog10:28
MinatakuI know USB2 hubs are backwards compatible10:28
daquinoMinataku:  could it be because i booted up the system while it was on a docking station ? the docking station mouse worked finel...10:28
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MinatakuA USB1 device works in a USB2 hub (and as stated, vice-versa)10:28
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KprofthreatThe device will just be slower10:29
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ziomelo10:29
MinatakuIndeed10:29
daquinoyes i have a feeling the dock station wacked it out...10:29
Minatakudaquino: Try a different USB device10:30
daquinoi tried to look for a /etc/init/hotplug but ubuntu doesn't seem to have that?10:30
MinatakuOr hub10:30
daquinoi tried 2 usb pens 1 bran new and one older10:30
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MinatakuIt's possible that one of the two is bad10:30
MinatakuHm10:30
daquinoit would be /dev/sdb righ t?10:30
AFaithhello there people10:30
AFaithanyone from USA in here ?10:30
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MinatakuTry the pens in some other USB hub, if possible10:30
daquinothats another question i have why did ubuntu not choose to use /dev/hd* for hd's ?10:30
daquinothey work fine10:30
MinatakuIt's looking like the hub may be bad10:30
MinatakuIn that case, the hub could be bad10:31
intelikeydaquino scsi emulation10:31
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MinatakuLook at dmesg up in the beginning10:31
Lord_Shadowdaquino: plug a usb mouse into the hub to check it.10:31
AFaithno americans in here :( ?10:31
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MinatakuSee if the hub is even recognized10:31
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AFaithi've got a question for you folks10:31
MinatakuAFaith: There are, I am one, but it's a little off topic ATM10:31
pimpini have no sound in kubuntu 7.0410:31
AFaiththats why i've asked that :P to chat more in private :)10:32
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Minatakudaquino: Do what Lord_Shadow said, try a USB mouse in the hub10:32
crimsunpimpin: read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page.10:32
MinatakuIf that doesn't work, you have bad hardware10:32
illmortalAnyone here use Adesklets? I'm having a problem with the SystemMonitor adesklet! Please help!10:32
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Lord_ShadowMinataku: I think that that is the easiest way to check usb functionality...  If it works, he is just having a mounting issue...10:33
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Lord_Shadowwith his memory stick10:33
daquinohey the hardware runs fine in windows10:33
daquinoLord_Shadow:  dmesg shows nothing10:33
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intelikeyLord_Shadow and if it doesn't work...   maybe hardware, but even more likely misconfiguration issue kernel side ?10:34
daquinoactually i think its from hibernating i think my usb mouse didn't work either ihad to reboot10:34
K-RyanI'm trying to upgrade my friend's laptop to edgy, now apparantly I HAVE to do it through apt-get10:34
Lord_Shadowdaquino: that's why we suspected a hardware problem... if it is working in windows, that rules out hardware.10:34
pimpinwhat can i do?10:34
K-RyanIs there no easier way?10:34
daquinowhat service is actually scanning the hardware at boot in debian ?10:34
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MinatakuThe kernel10:34
daquinowhat ?10:34
MinatakuThe kernel does everything hardware10:34
daquinoyea but you can load modules on your own10:35
daquinolike a hotplug script or something ?10:35
MinatakuI believe there may be a helper app called "coldplug"10:35
MinatakuUnless this distro doesn't use that10:35
Lord_Shadowtry 'lsmod | grep usb'10:35
intelikeydaquino it's all in the initramfs.img    that's where all your hardware is (normally) setup in *buntu based systems.10:35
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daquinowtf ?10:36
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pimpinanyone?10:36
daquinothats retarded10:36
MinatakuThe initrd has all the modules in it10:36
daquinoinitrd is used to get the hd drivers up then the system should do the rest10:36
MinatakuWell, the critical ones, at the very least10:36
intelikeydaquino i quite agree,  but it doesn't change it.10:36
MinatakuWhich is why I hate binary kernels10:36
MinatakuI compile my own kernels as a Gentoo user10:37
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crimsunI love how I just gave pimpin instructions that he totally ignored and proceeded to assume no one wanted to help him.10:37
MinatakuNo initrd/initramfs10:37
daquinothis makes no sense.... so the initrd system loads all my modules ?10:37
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daquinocrimsun:  you tlaking to me ?10:37
Minatakudaquino: The initrd is just a storage space10:37
MinatakuIt's not a program or anything10:37
crimsundaquino: no, I made an observation about someone who /parted.10:37
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intelikeycrimsun yeah,  but like it's said "never assume malus for what stupidity can explain"   maybe he just didn't see it.10:38
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Minatakuintelikey: Gee, you weren't that quick to defend me at all10:39
MinatakuLove the double-standard thing10:39
MinatakuDon't see enough of that EVERYWHERE10:39
intelikeysomeone said they were ignoring me too10:39
brunatoshie everyone i got a dualscreen prob, nvidia see well the second screen but it stay black10:39
Minatakuintelikey: Everything but channel10:39
MinatakuNot my fault if you misinterpret10:39
K-RyanMinataku: Why are you out to get people?10:40
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MinatakuK-Ryan: I was the victim of a character attack in PM by intelikey10:40
intelikeyK-Ryan i pushed his buttons a while ago.   the truth hurts.10:40
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MinatakuI don't take crap without dealing it back10:40
K-RyanMinataku: This is the internet, be prepared for it, do not take it seriously10:41
BluesKajcrimsun, we had one of those here yesterday too .. llutz thought he was a troll ..a know it all who asked questions about wm and proceded to tell those helping that it wasn't suppoed towork that way10:41
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MinatakuK-Ryan: Internet or not, human interactions elicit human emotions10:41
daquinoi love how the system just crashes10:41
daquinoanyway now its working after a reboot10:41
MinatakuJust because there's an interim medium in between doesn't mean that it's all completely meaningless10:41
daquinoso your saying there is no way to rerun whatever ubuntu uses to detect hardware without a reboot ?10:41
K-RyanMinataku: Yes, it is meaningless10:42
MinatakuWords can hurt, no matter how they're transmitted to the recieving party10:42
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K-RyanMinataku: Perhaps certain words can, but this is a petty fight/10:42
MinatakuK-Ryan: Clearly you have no grasp over the role of technology in psychology.10:42
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daquinoi love how i told the desktop to not display devices... but yet it still does...10:42
K-RyanNo it's just as an avid gamer I realize that the other party can't mean any of it.10:42
K-RyanTherefore it's crap10:43
MinatakuBy your logic, one should never get mad at anyone on the telephone10:43
K-RyanNo, telephone you may know the other person10:43
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K-RyanThis is the internet10:43
MinatakuBecause it's just analog data digitized, sent along some wires and reconverted at the other end10:43
K-RyanExcept with a phone you usually know who's on the other end10:43
MinatakuAngry trash talk in a game IS meaningless10:43
K-RyanWhat's the difference here?10:43
MinatakuK-Ryan: This isn't an exciting, thought-requiring game10:44
MinatakuMore thought is gone into words than typing10:44
MinatakuWhereas in a game more thought is put into playing than the words10:44
BluesKajwe get know each other somewhat here ...it's cyber but it's oranocyber :)10:44
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K-RyanThought or no thought, this "trashtalk" is meaningless10:45
BluesKajorganocyber10:45
K-RyanDo you know me or intelikey?10:45
MinatakuYou'll blurt out something in a game without meaning it because it comes out on a spur-of-the-moment impule10:45
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K-RyanNo, so why should you care what we say?10:45
tripp!it10:45
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:45
chris__hey10:45
K-RyanHi there chris__10:45
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chris__whst happening k-ryan?10:45
MinatakuOne does not have to know someone personally and in real life to bond with them10:45
K-RyanIt's not a matter of bonding.10:46
MinatakuYou seem to think that real life is the only way connections are made10:46
chris__i just installed kubuntu 7.04 today so im new at this lmfao10:46
K-RyanReal life is the only way true connections are made10:46
K-RyanSo don't take the internet serious10:46
BluesKajin this small space one gets impressions from the way ppl express themselves , yes K-Ryan10:46
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MinatakuK-Ryan: Again, by your logic, in this case, one cannot have online friends10:46
K-Ryanchris__: What's the problem?10:46
chris__true10:46
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MinatakuBecause it is impossible to make friends online because, as you put it, "it's the internet"10:47
intelikeywith channel junk,  just like i saw it.10:47
chris__trying to download thunderbird using terman and it will not let me10:47
MinatakuElectronic communication or not, there is a lot of psychological phoenonema involved10:47
chris__**termal10:47
K-RyanMinataku: Don't beat around the bush, the point is don't get angry at what you either no is NOT true or what is not to be taken seriously.10:47
arekhi, i have downloaded firefox, now how to install it?10:47
MinatakuK-Ryan: Except this WAS meant to be taken seriously10:47
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intelikeychris__ error message ?10:47
K-RyanHow can you be so sure?10:48
chris__hold on a min10:48
MinatakuIt was delivered in a deliberate and thought-out manner, with seriousness implied10:48
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K-RyanImplied?10:48
MinatakuIt was not a "YO MAMA" after getting fragged10:48
K-RyanYou know what, forget it10:48
K-RyanThis is going no where and you obviously don't see what I'm getting at.10:48
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daquinoaren't you guys upset how the new eye candy doesn't support kde integration10:48
chris__E: Package thunderbird has no installation candidat10:48
chris__thats the error message that im getting10:48
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MinatakuK-Ryan: No, you obviously don't see what _I_ am getting at10:48
arekhi, i have downloaded firefox, now how to install it?10:49
intelikeychris__ what does   lsb_release -a tell you ?10:49
chris__go10:49
chris__sudo apt-get install firefox10:49
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MinatakuAnd rather than trying, you're going to just give up because you refuse to see the point I'm trying to make in refuting yours10:49
K-Ryanarek: You don't need an installer file.10:49
chris__then go yes when it askes you if you want firefox10:49
SlimeyPetearek: that's not howoneusually does thingsin kubuntu. Load Adet from the K menu and use that to instlsoftware10:49
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SlimeyPete*Adept10:49
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K-RyanMinataku: I don't know how else to explain it. And I don't need to convince you otherwise so yes, I am giving up.10:49
MinatakuK-Ryan: I bet you're a bit upset right now, aren't you?10:49
SlimeyPetearek: Adept will prent you with a searchable list of software and allow you to pick applications to install10:50
K-RyanWhy would I be upset? I fully realize this is the internet.10:50
MinatakuNo doubt you're feeling at least a tiny bit of emotion.10:50
K-RyanNone10:50
chris__E: Package thunderbird has no installation candidat10:50
MinatakuYou're lying.10:50
intelikeyMinataku drop it.    he already said it's over.10:50
K-RyanIf anything I think it's humorous.10:50
arekfirefox has no installation candidat10:50
chris__is their thunderbird for linux?10:50
K-RyanYes chris__10:50
chris__it should i downloaded it liek 10 mins ago10:51
MinatakuYou seem to assume this is a meaningless argument, where you're merely arguing for argument's sake, which would explain why you're giving up.10:51
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intelikeychris__ you didn't tell me what version your were running10:51
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MinatakuI'm arguing with seriousness, as if this were an intellectual discussion.10:51
K-RyanIt IS a meaningless arguement, it is a matter of opinions.10:51
jeroen__Hi10:51
K-RyanHi there jeroen__10:51
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chris__intellikely - you mean what kubuntu verson?10:51
chris__7.0410:52
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_StefanS_anyone have experience with eSata ?10:52
jeroen__K-Ryan: Can you help me? I need to change my res. to 1024 x7...10:52
areki have thesame problem10:52
intelikeychris__ yes thank you.10:52
K-RyanSure thing jeroen__10:52
intelikey!thunderbird10:52
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042710:52
_StefanS_I just bought a 5-disk DAS without knowing how it works :D10:52
MinatakuSorry to hear you think that, I'll remember that it's impossible to get into a legitimate discussion with you, K-Ryan... on the "internet", anyway10:52
Minataku!xrandr jeroen__10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xrandr jeroen__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
intelikey!info thunderbird10:52
ubotuPackage thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:52
MinatakuEr10:52
Minataku!xrandr | jeroen__10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
Minataku...10:52
MinatakuWhat the hell10:52
K-Ryanjeroen__ Here's what you're going to need to do. Click the K Menu button then click System Settings.10:53
jeroen__ok10:53
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K-RyanOnce there click Monitor & Display10:53
chris__intel - 2.0.0.410:53
chris__the newest one10:53
jeroen__ok10:53
trakinasMinataku: bots are never useful when we really need them.10:53
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chris__is the one that i want10:53
chris__to have lol10:53
K-RyanCan you slide the slider to 1024x768?10:53
Minatakutrakinas: Tell me about it10:53
jeroen__no10:53
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fusiogen_re planter :s10:54
intelikey!info mozilla-thunderbird10:54
K-RyanWhat's the max?10:54
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB10:54
crimsunMinataku et al., please take offtopic observations/discussions to the appropriate channel, thanks.10:54
MinatakuSorry, everyone, for attempting to have a legitimate discussion with someone who was never taking it seriously10:54
jeroen__800x60010:54
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K-RyanYou have an Ati graphics card?10:54
jeroen__no10:54
K-RyanOh alright, just curious.10:54
jeroen__nvidia mx 40010:54
intelikeychris__ it's mozilla-thunderbird10:54
Minatakuintelikey: Sorry for the rude comment in PM... and any others after that10:55
chris_scum???10:55
K-RyanI'm unfamiliar with that card but you're sure it supports 1024x768 right?10:55
MinatakuK-Ryan: Apologies to you as well10:55
matti_Having problems to use ./config at Kubuntu ? ... Do I need to change to root user or why I can't manage to build KMyMoney ?10:55
chris_scumoh ok10:55
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arekok thann back to windows...10:55
chris_scumchris__ is my name often10:55
illmortalHey guys how do I check my temperature of my processor through Terminal?!10:55
K-RyanMinataku: You're making it out to be way more than it was...10:55
chris__well its my name now lmfao10:55
Minatakuillmortal: /proc/acpi10:55
chris__lol10:55
intelikeyMinataku don't worry about it.  i'm not bothered by it.10:55
chris__sorry i just had tyo day that10:55
MinatakuIn there somewhere10:55
K-RyanTo me it was meaningless text10:55
MinatakuOn my system, it's under /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature10:55
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K-Ryan!resolution10:56
K-Ryanubotu?10:56
MinatakuK-Ryan: Either way, it wasn't to me, so I apologize for it nonetheless :)10:56
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:56
chris__oh okay intel thakns10:56
Minatakuillmortal: Just cat that file if you have it10:56
intelikeychris__ welcome10:56
MinatakuIf you don't, it's either something different or not there10:56
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K-Ryanjeroen__: I can't remember the exact method so you're going to need someone else in here, sorry.10:57
Assidheya10:57
K-RyanHi Assid10:57
jeroen__K-Ryan: ok np10:57
Assidevery time i run krfb .. i getr these X: error invalid of uninitialized input device 16910:57
K-RyanIf someone familiar with adding custom resolutions could help jeroen__ out it would be great.10:57
daquinoguys why cant i start up another x session using xinit its telling me i dont have permission ?10:58
MinatakuIt'll be a modeline in xorg.conf10:58
trakinasgtg10:58
trakinasttyl10:58
MinatakuI have to go too10:58
trakinas*ttyl10:58
chris__so whats every been up too?;10:58
MinatakuDinnertime10:58
K-Ryanjeroen__: Try going to google and typing in "modeline" then click I'm feeling lucky10:59
K-RyanThat should help for now10:59
fusiogen_vive la fance :)10:59
K-RyanOnce you're done with that coem back here.10:59
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K-Ryan*come11:00
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romudoghiii11:02
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romudoghey11:02
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RandMC_I'm new at Installing from the command line can someone help me.11:03
arafat_RandMC_: sudo apt-get install <packagename>11:04
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RandMC_Thanks i will try it.11:04
daquinowhat are usb device files called now ?11:05
daquinodoes no one know what file i can use to mount a usb pen ?11:05
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LanguidCouldn't find any documentation for Adept Updater -- what is the difference between "Request Removal" and "Request Purging"?11:05
intelikeyRandMC_ you can get <packagename> via apt-cache search <string>  ( maybe add  | less   to the end so you can search throught long output if needed)11:06
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arafatLanguid: i guess "purging" removes all your according config files as well11:06
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chris__!perl11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
intelikeyapt-cache search vlc     for example      or maybe   apt-cache search web browser | less11:07
chris__!pearl11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pearl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
intelikey!find perl11:07
ubotuFound: eperl, libapache2-mod-perl2, libapache2-mod-perl2-dev, libapache2-mod-perl2-doc, libappconfig-perl (and 1204 others)11:07
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Languidarafat: thanks -- know of any documentation for Adept?11:07
intelikey!info perl11:08
ubotuperl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-7build1 (feisty), package size 3308 kB, installed size 11440 kB11:08
chris__thakns....11:08
chris__:P11:08
chris__lol11:08
RandMC_I tried it but it is a package not on the repositories called celtx11:08
chris__told you that im new at this11:08
intelikey!bot > chris__11:08
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chris__what dose that do?11:08
chris__!bot11:09
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:09
intelikeycheck your messages   other tabs11:09
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intelikeyopened you a pm for the bot so you can talk dirrectly with ubotu and not bother the channel chris__11:10
RandMC_I downloaded a package from the program website, How do I install it?11:10
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intelikeyRandMC_ what format package ?11:10
RandMC_tar.gz11:10
intelikey!b-e | RandMC_11:10
ubotuRandMC_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:10
matti_Trying configure KMyMoney but I get (( configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH )) .. any help on this one ??11:11
daquinoits pretty annoying how this thing mounts my dam usb pen when i plug it in even after i cliked "do nothing"11:11
K-Ryanby "do nothing" it means don't open a folder or attempt to run the files11:11
RandMC_Thanks.11:11
K-Ryanit will still mount it11:11
MaTiAzmatti_: Install GCC & stuff, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:11
intelikeymatti_ install build-essential as per ubotu message above11:11
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MaTiAz!repositories11:12
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:12
bigmoethen  have to make the link11:12
fusiogen_byby all bonne soiree11:12
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chris__hey11:13
tininPlease, does anyone knows if there is a program to configure xserver-xorg? I get an error in the kdm login screen about resolution11:13

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