[12:14] <kronos91> qualcubno mi legge
[12:19] <Dexter_F> !raid
[12:19] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:19] <Dexter_F> !sensors
[12:19] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[12:20] <romudog> Hey guys! Hows it going today?
[12:23] <qwertz> help: how to define X11_Xtest_Lib(ADVANCED)  ?? I have x11proto_xext_devel.. but that doesn't help
[12:26] <romudog> sparr:hey
[12:29] <rathel__> What file do I edit to add tuncfg too so that it starts at boot?
[12:30] <romudog> kde?
[12:30] <romudog> rathel__: kde right
[12:31] <rathel__> romudog: Yes.
[12:31] <romudog> rathel__: put a bash/shell cmd in your .Autostart
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> rathel_what deos tuncfg do? do you want it to start on boot, or on login?
[12:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim: LoL Hey! You hang here often?
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah..  bit... why?
[12:32] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: It's needed for Hamachi, I keep forgetting to start it when I run hamachi, so I thought I add it when I login or boot the computer.
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> *a bit
[12:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim: LoL Just wondering saw ya yesterday!
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: I keep forgetting the file that has things to run on boot...
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> but you can put them in kde's autostart
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah, i'm on frequently
[12:34] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: If I add it to KDE's autostart, It's needs sudo to run, how would I add a command like that? withouth prompting for a password?
[12:35] <romudog> I'm interested in learning that too.
[12:35] <snake> does anyone know something i can use to convert avi to mpeg
[12:35] <romudog> I do.
[12:35] <romudog> snake: Use mediacoder or avidemux
[12:35] <snake> romudog: i have avidemux but i do not know how to convert avi
[12:35] <snake> any wiki please ?
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: yeah, thats why you have to add it boot... I keep forgetting how.
[12:36] <romudog> snake: Mediacoder is probably your best bet. I know the creator personally.
[12:36] <snake> ah ok
[12:36] <snake> thank you
[12:36] <romudog> snake: I'll link you.
[12:36] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: Yeah I forgot too, I did it before along time ago.
[12:36] <snake> ok
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> lemme ask over in kubuntu-devel
[12:36] <romudog> snake: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
[12:37] <romudog> snake: ffmpeg would also work but its too complicated for me because its console based.
[12:37] <snake> romudog: thank you. trying now
[12:37] <romudog> snake: Okay, Hollar at me if it doesnt work, You need wine for mediacoder unless the Linux vers has just been output. It runs perfect under wine.
[12:40] <Gerrit> !smart
[12:40] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[12:40] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: ok, add your command to /etc/rc.local (courtesy of crimsun on kubuntu-devel)
[12:41] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: Okay thank ya.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: it wasn't me.. thank crimsun
[12:42] <rathel__> Yup but still, you got the answer.
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: oh that looks interesting
[12:45] <matze> !libdvdcss2
[12:45] <Gerrit> I have switched from Fedora to Kubuntu, and I am already missing the installation-date field that rpm has but debian misses. It doesn't seem that smart can do that for me though.
[12:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:45] <Gerrit> Debian package manager seems to be more limited than rpm (I am not trying to troll, this is my impression at the moment)
[12:46] <matze> very sad, very sad
[12:48] <matze> what's the kubuntu text-editor?
[12:48] <Arwen> kate
[12:49] <matze> thx
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ehh... I don't know. .Deb distros more than make up for it with their huge amount of available programs
[12:50] <LjL> Gerrit: more limited in what ways?
[12:52] <darkstar> Hello
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[12:52] <romudog> Can someone assist me? I'm trying to install Google Earth and i get the following error: xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server (new line) xlib: No protocol specified
[12:53] <darkstar> I've tried to get kubuntu to see my windows network, but it says it's blocked by a firewall even though I haven't installed one.
[12:53] <darkstar> O
[12:53] <darkstar> ve tried installing Samba, but no luck.
[12:53] <LjL> romudog: use the package from medibuntu
[12:54] <darkstar> Anybody?
[12:54] <romudog> LjL: It doesnt show up it gave me 404 when i tried and last time it did work it downloaded so slow at 10kbps
[12:55] <romudog> I'm also wondering why i get these errors, Ive gotten them with many programs.
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> 404 is an apache error
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> romudog: oh you mean the xlib ones.
[12:56] <romudog> W: Failed to fetch-http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_4.0.2735.0-0medibuntu2~edgy0.1_i386.deb
[12:56] <romudog>   404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 
[12:56] <LjL> !medibuntu
[12:56] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:57] <romudog> i have them enabled though.
[12:57] <LjL> romudog: they've changed address, as you can see above
[01:01] <romudog> LjL: It works when i http that link
[01:04] <LjL> romudog, in your sources.list, you have medibuntu.sos-sts.com as that error shows, but the *current* address is medibuntu.org, not medibuntu.sos-sts.com, so you'd have to change your sources.list accordingly
[01:04] <LjL> or just fetch it manually
[01:04] <romudog> LjL: its NOT medibuntu.org....
[01:05] <romudog> LjL: It states on their website not to use medibuntu.org due to them switching servers. the tell you to use that link.
[01:06] <LjL> romudog, in the repository howto they say to do  echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list 
[01:06] <LjL> so that seems very much like medibuntu.org (specifically, packages.medibuntu.org) would be the address
[01:06] <romudog> I understand that.
[01:07] <romudog> I just went to the website..
[01:21] <isthisnickvalid_> hey I have a little problem
[01:22] <romudog> !ask
[01:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_:Whatcha need?
[01:23] <isthisnickvalid_> I want to make the program "martian_dev" run at the beginning and then the command "ln -f /dev/ttySM0 /dev/modem run, after the firs command and in every boot, how can I do it?
[01:23] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: Your better off than me cause i got big problems ;) Your lucky you only got a little problem some of us have issues with girlfriends...haha
[01:23] <isthisnickvalid_> lol
[01:23] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: I dont know about bash that much but if your on KDE put the script in your .Autostart so like /home/USERNAME***/.Autostart
[01:24] <isthisnickvalid_> I'll have a look, thanks
[01:24] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: No problem, Thats what im here for.
[01:28] <romudog> Lots of ComCaSt USeRz
[01:29] <BluesKaj> evening all :)
[01:30] <romudog> BluesKaj: Hey
[01:30] <BluesKaj> hi romudog
[01:30] <romudog> sup man
[01:31] <isthisnickvalid_> romudog: the app I am trying to use must be used under root...will I have problems or does autostart work as root?
[01:31] <romudog> I have no idea, I believe it starts as the user.
[01:32] <BluesKaj> trying to config permission to /media , "chmod 755 /media" doesn't seem to work...of course I'm still a bit in the dark about cmnds , so that's not too surprising :)
[01:33] <romudog> BluesKaj: Don't feel bad. I've messed with Linux for a few years and i'm still clueless to how to use CHMOD in konsole.
[01:34] <BluesKaj> I dont wanna change users permissions , just my permissions cuz I'm the only user ...wifey still sticks to her old windoze
[01:35] <romudog> LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:35] <romudog> Dude...I abandoned windows yesterday..it HOSED...last time i ever use it.
[01:35] <BluesKaj> her ood windoze pcc , that is
[01:35] <BluesKaj> old
[01:35] <romudog> lol
[01:35] <romudog> Windows is a virus.
[01:37] <BluesKaj> hehe, i got scathed and flamed for asking a desperate windows question in here yesterday, on behalf of my poor 'newb to computers' daughter.
[01:37] <romudog> lol
[01:38] <romudog> BluesKaj: If you need anything let me know im a pro when it comes to windows...
[01:38] <BluesKaj> you'd think i'd pi**ed their morning coffee:)
[01:38] <romudog> LoL!!
[01:38] <romudog> Man i cant get this dvd workin
[01:38] <romudog> Any ideas?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> romudog: did you install libdvdcss2?
[01:38] <BluesKaj> the cursor on her toshibs laptop was frozen
[01:39] <romudog> nosrednaekim i used easy ubuntu to
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> romudog: and it doesn't play? any error message?
[01:39] <romudog> nosrednaekim lemme go check synaptic real quick thanks for the pkg name
[01:39] <BluesKaj> gotta have that libdvdcss2 :)
[01:40] <romudog> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+b1_i386.deb
[01:40] <romudog>   404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 
[01:40] <romudog> Arg can someone help me fix repos list?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> romudog: use the seveas repo for libdvdcss
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> !seveas
[01:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:41] <romudog> thx
[01:41] <BluesKaj> romudog, http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[01:42] <Gerrit> Is it possible to determine the install date of a package?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmmm yeah... do you cache all downloaded packages?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> romudog: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[01:45] <romudog> nosrednaekim It wont lemme start my package manager
[01:45] <Kr4t05> I just accidentally deleted some important files (Shift+Del). Is there any tool that can bring them back from the dead?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> romudog: whats the error?
[01:45] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: I don't know if I do.
[01:45] <romudog> nosrednaekim There is none sometimes it just locks up on the loading curson
[01:45] <romudog> cursor*
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> run it from the konsole
[01:45] <romudog> i did
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> and.. no error?it NEVER loads?
[01:46] <Kr4t05> Help?!
[01:46] <romudog> YEah
[01:46] <romudog> Kr4t05: watcha need?
[01:46] <Kr4t05> See above.
[01:46] <romudog> Oh
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: if that means "rm" nothing you can do
[01:46] <romudog> YEah there is
[01:46] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yeah?
[01:46] <romudog> if it doesnt write over the sectors you can recover it
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> romudog: really?
[01:46] <romudog> believe me ive done it so many times..
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> romudog: try another package manager
[01:47] <romudog> fixed it nos
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> romudog: ho do you do it?
[01:47] <Kr4t05> romudog: What do I need to do?
[01:47] <romudog> Nosrednaekim Do what?
[01:47] <romudog> Kr4t05 Lemme go get the package name
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> romudog: recover things.
[01:47] <romudog> nosrednaekim: You run a program that scans all your hard drive sectors.
[01:48] <romudog> Nosrednaekim: Remember in Kgpg it had a feature called shredder?
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> romudog: never used that.
[01:48] <romudog> But you remember it dont you?
[01:49] <romudog> Kr4t05 What type of file did you accidentally delete?
[01:49] <Kr4t05> romudog: Several of my movie backups.
[01:49] <Kr4t05> Most of them were AVI
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> romudog: i've heard of it
[01:49] <romudog> Okay your in luck
[01:50] <romudog> Listen Kr4t05 Your best bet is to not write to your current hard drive it could delete the file permanently
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Eh...
[01:50] <Kr4t05> I have a Windows Vista partition.
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Is there anyway to do things from it?
[01:50] <romudog> yeah
[01:50] <romudog> So this is windows?
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Or, should I break out the LiveCD?
[01:50] <romudog> or linux?
[01:50] <romudog> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[01:51] <Kr4t05> No, this is still Kubuntu, say the word, and I'll get my LiveCD out.
[01:51] <romudog> Photrec is your tool you need, It should work.
[01:51] <Kr4t05> romudog: Right-o.
[01:51] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[01:51] <romudog> If it doesnt there is a tool i use that i bought and it does a great job.
[01:51] <MaTiAz> Hey, is the support for Intel graphics chips any good in Linux?
[01:51] <romudog> ...back in the windows days..haha
[01:51] <romudog> Yeah
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: excellent
[01:51] <romudog> But no 3d accel i think
[01:52] <romudog> i could be wrong
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> romudog: no they allhave 3d accel
[01:52] <romudog> Kr4t05 GL bro
[01:52] <romudog> nosrednaekim Cool!
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> all open source too!
[01:52] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Woah, that's awesome!
[01:52] <MaTiAz> Is bluetooth & WLAN fully supported too?
[01:53] <romudog> Pretty sure it is
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: more or less, depens on your chipset and how much blood sweat and tears you put into it.
[01:53] <MaTiAz> All right
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> if you mean intel wireless, yes it is
[01:53] <MaTiAz> Yeah
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> intelis one of the easiest as well
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> for wireless
[01:53] <MaTiAz> I'm planning on buying a HP Compaq NX7400, Intel C2D T5600, 1GB DDR2 etc. :)
[01:54] <MaTiAz> So I guess I can safely buy that one without needing to worry too much about Linux compatibility :)
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: go to www.linux-laptops.org and look up that model
[01:55] <romudog> MatiAz How much is it?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> MaTiAz, one thing , make sure the graphics card is NOTan ATI !
[01:55] <romudog> omfg ATI Sucks under linux its HORRIBLE!!!!!!
[01:55] <MaTiAz> BluesKaj: It's an Intel
[01:55] <MaTiAz> romudog: 635 euros, not bad IMO
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> I hate ATI.
[01:56] <MaTiAz> And yeah, I've experienced ATI on Linux - far from pleasure
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> 635 EU...about $700?
[01:56] <romudog> Matiaz: Thats 1200USD give or take Why not buy from System76
[01:56] <MaTiAz> Hmm, something like that
[01:56] <BluesKaj> well, that's a bit difficult to MaTiAz, but workable ...I think :)
[01:56] <Gerrit> Goodnight
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> $850... not bad.
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> bye
[01:56] <romudog> 851.939 USD
[01:56] <MaTiAz> yeah
[01:57] <romudog> Matiaz yeah man HP Rips you off even with my handy dandy employee discount
[01:57] <MaTiAz> :\
[01:58] <romudog> i had a laptop i retured it after arguing with them cuz the DVD burner didnt work and they sent me defective batteries which were recalled 2 wks later
[01:58] <MaTiAz> I could get an Acer for the same price with a bit better specs, but I'm definitely not gonna buy one of those
[01:58] <MaTiAz> lol
[01:58] <romudog> Apples run linux if you dont mine the no right click
[01:58] <romudog> and proprietary hardware..and ati..
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: yeah I have an ACER with ATI, regretting it.
[01:58] <MaTiAz> :)
[01:58] <romudog> System 76 i was looking at...
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> romudog: some of them have nvidia
[01:58] <romudog> nosrednaekim not the one i have
[01:58] <MaTiAz> I wish I had a new MacBook Pro
[01:59] <romudog> Matiaz haha i just got one
[01:59] <MaTiAz> I heard the Geforce 8600 mobile is sick
[01:59] <restagner> i have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?
[01:59] <romudog> i have the ati one tho i have an intel mac before OLED
[01:59] <Kr4t05> romudog: Okay, now in Windows.
[01:59] <MaTiAz> I was gonna buy a MacBook, but as it costs kinda much I thought I'd just get a regular PC laptop
[01:59] <Kr4t05> What was that link, again?
[02:00] <romudog> Kr4t05 one sec
[02:00] <romudog> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: looks like that HP has some pretty good linux support
[02:00] <romudog> Got a USB Thumbdrive there?
[02:00] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yeah, 512MB
[02:00] <BluesKaj> hehe, a buddy bought a HP with AMD 64 bit CPU , when he started it up at home , he ran into a dell windows home premuim vista OS ...bought it at future shop (owned by  best buy) here in Canada :)
[02:00] <romudog> download it and istall it to usb thumbdrive
[02:00] <romudog> just to be safe Kr4t05
[02:00] <MaTiAz> BluesKaj: Haha, good luck :D
[02:01] <restagner> MaTiAz: I just bought a Dell Inspirion. and am very happy with it
[02:01] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Good to hear :) Gotta see if I just replace the Vista Business with Kubuntu :)
[02:01] <MaTiAz> restagner: What model?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> he got reimbursed fully
[02:01] <restagner> the 1505
[02:01] <Kr4t05> romudog: Vista doesn't have access to my Linux partitions... :/
[02:01] <romudog> Matiaz if i made enough money i'd pay people to switch to kubuntu just for the sake of it
[02:01] <MaTiAz> :)
[02:02] <romudog> Kr4t05 I dont get it...What do you wanna restore...i mean what partition is it on?
[02:02] <restagner> MaTiAz: it was priced VERY reasonable
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: you mean, by HP?
[02:02] <MaTiAz> I've used Vista a bit, I prefer XP a lot more though
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: yeah, why don't you go get one of those Dell Ubuntu lappys?
[02:02] <romudog> Dell = Hell.
[02:02] <romudog> Dont ever buy from the,.
[02:03] <romudog> them*
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: oh yeah thats right.. you are in europe
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:03] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Well, installing Kubuntu isn't such a problem anyway :)
[02:03] <MaTiAz> And yeah, I'm in Europe :)
[02:03] <Kr4t05> romudog: hda2 is my Vista partition
[02:03] <Kr4t05> hda3 is where the files in question where.
[02:03] <romudog> Kr4t05 So why did you switch to vista?
[02:03] <restagner> that's what I got: the Dell ubuntu lappy
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> restagner: is it nice?
[02:03] <MaTiAz> I like to do stuff myself instead of having it preinstalled
[02:03] <restagner> VERY nice!!
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: thats your masochistic right
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[02:04] <Kr4t05> romudog: Because you told me to?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> restagner: did you get it with the nvidia card?
[02:04] <restagner> nosrednaekim: all in all it cost me about $900
[02:04] <romudog> Kr4t05 I dont remember telling you to switch to it i just remember asking you which it was on..and all lol
[02:04] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Why? I've installed Kubuntu on three machines and it wasn't troubling at all :)
[02:04] <Kr4t05> ...
[02:04] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes I got the nvidia card
[02:04] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Wait
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> restagner: was the nvidia driver installed by default?
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 You may be able to recover it from vista.
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Besides your safer on vista give me a minute to look this up.
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Is your filesystem ext2 or 3?
[02:06] <restagner> nosrednaekim: Yes, but there were some issues with it via the factory default setting using Ubuntu.  So, I went about installing Kubuntu on it and it works great
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> restagner: what kind of issues? I'm very interested in the dells for reccomending them to freinds and such
[02:06] <Kr4t05> romudog: 3
[02:07] <romudog> kr4t05 let me find you an ext3 driver for winblows lol
[02:07] <Kr4t05> romudog: The only one I have is not supported in Vista.
[02:07] <restagner> the card appeared to be recognized, but there were some warnings presented.  i don't exactly recall, because i almost immediately removed Ubuntu and installed Kubuntu
[02:07] <Kr4t05> All the others suck.
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Hold on.
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> restagner: ah, ok
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Let me get the Linux version, and use my Kubuntu LiveCD.
[02:07] <romudog> Kr4t05 Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd or have you tried that?
[02:08] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yes
[02:08] <restagner> To all:  i have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> restagner: sure... its really pretty easy
[02:08] <restagner> nosrednaekim: please do share !!
[02:08] <galathalion> why aint my screensaver wokring?
[02:09] <romudog> Kr4t05 Okay well then i suggest you use a LiveCD to minimize the possibility of writing over the deleted sectors and get the Photorec software installed to ramdisk
[02:09] <romudog> Kr4t05 I'll be right back
[02:09] <Kr4t05> romudog: Okay
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> restagner: go into system settings, printing, admin mode
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> there?
[02:10] <romudog> kr4t05 back
[02:10] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim:  I am (I realized I wanted to do this also)
[02:10] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> restagner: this is on the computer that has the printer attached
[02:10] <restagner> nosrednaekim: correct
[02:10] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: yep ;)
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok, up on the top of that window is a drop-down menu entitled "print server"
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> drop it down and enable the print server.
[02:11] <restagner> nosrednaekim: i see it
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> "share printers on local netowork"
[02:12] <restagner> nosrednaekim: you mean select "configue server"
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> restagner: do you have the printer already set up?
[02:12] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes. an HP DeskJet
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> restagner: no. I mean select "share printers on local network"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: you with us?
[02:13] <alex> hello, how can i make beryl start automatically?
[02:13] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: yep, got that done
[02:13] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: is there a need to configure the server?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: you started it? and you have the local printer set up correctly?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: no
[02:13] <restagner> nosrednaekim: i select the "print server" drop-down, but i see "restart server" and "configure server".
[02:14] <greg_g_> "share printer..." is enabled and yeah, it is set up correctly
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> restagner: thats odd, greg_g_saw what I see.... you're on fiesty?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: lets wait for restagner.
[02:14] <restagner> nosrednaekim: actually, dapper
[02:14] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: no worries
[02:15] <Grant> hi
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> restagner: I don't know how to do it in dapper
[02:15] <greg_g_> restagner: just to  make sure, your printer is in the main area with the other things like "mail pdf file" "print to file" etc?
[02:15] <Grant> whoops
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> restagner: sorry.
[02:16] <restagner> greg_g: yes, what i see is my printer and then mail PDF file, Print to file, etc.
[02:16] <romudog> There is a pdf server for windows its open source so probably works for linux too
[02:16] <romudog> "PDF Creator"
[02:16] <restagner> nosrednaekim: ok. thanks
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: on your other computer, add a printer, make it remote cups,
[02:16] <greg_g_> restagner: then yeah, must be something that was added after dapper (the option in that menu, I'm sure it is possible, just not the same way)
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> restagner: look up a tutorial
[02:17] <restagner> nosrednaekim: any possible references . . . ?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> restagner: maybe try setting up the print server although i'm not sure what that does
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> restagner: google ;)
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !printing
[02:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:17] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: the other computer is not on right now, mainly because it is the gf's (who is out of town) and it is loud (yes, I am going to fix that)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: well, ok, its pretty easy, just follow that add printer dialog with the first choice being remote cups(IPP/HTTP)
[02:19] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: cool.. thanks a lot
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: NP
[02:20] <Kr4t05> romudog:
[02:20] <romudog> welcome back
[02:20] <Kr4t05> How do I run this thing?
[02:21] <romudog> Kr4t05 Check the wiki
[02:21] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: and, btw, I did "configure server" after changing the verification from root to my username so I could actually do it.  Only changed the max log size just to make sure I could (wasn't sure since I used my login instead of root)
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: ah.. is that how you get around that authorization problem.
[02:22] <romudog> http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/photorec.html
[02:22] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: I guess, worked for me
[02:22] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: what is the deal with the root user on ubuntu/debian?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: doesn't for. me..:-/
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: its ubuntu and its sudo stuff
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> no root user.
[02:23] <greg_g_> gotcha
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> until you enable it manually (which I do right away)
[02:24] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: I got an error dialog after using my username, saying somethings aren't recognized (or something) but the config dialog came up and I was able to change the max log size without an error (I think, haven't exactly verified)
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hm
[02:24] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: so, since you have root enabled you are able to get to that config ok or not?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: nah, I can't with root either which is rather weird
[02:25] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: very weird... so, is that a launchpad-able bug?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: I don't know and don't really care.. haha Oh I know why. I don't have the server enable on this computer.
[02:26] <greg_g_> heh
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> thats WOULD do it..
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> *that
[02:27] <Kr4t05> romudog: Er... We have a problem.
[02:27] <romudog> What is it Kr4t05?
[02:27] <Kr4t05> I don't have enough space for all the recovered files.
[02:27] <greg_g_> the error: "Some options were not recognized by this configuration tool.  They will be left untouched and you won't be able to change them"
[02:27] <romudog> Kr4t05 Thats not good
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: thats not the error I get
[02:28] <greg_g_> "defaultauthtype = Basic" "require = user @OWNER @SYSTEM" "order = deny,allow" "="
[02:28] <greg_g_> all of those on separate lines
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hm IDK
[02:29] <greg_g_> yeah, that is the error I get after I use my u/p and before the config dialog comes up
[02:29] <romudog> Kr4t05 I have a portable hard drive for things like that and about 5 spare HDD's
[02:29] <greg_g_> yeah, very weird
[02:29] <romudog> Writing to that partition could delete some of the files though.
[02:30] <AutoMatriX> hello, world :D
[02:30] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: the change of max size for logs stayed what I edited it to, so it must "work" whatever that means in this semi-broken way
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: yep.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: so maybe you can show restagner how to set his server up from your configure server. window
[02:32] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: hmm, maybe
[02:32] <greg_g_> restagner: you still here?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> restagner: you still around
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> guess not.
[02:35] <intelikey> howto, read the cmos clock from linux ?
[02:35] <intelikey> the "rtc" ?
[02:35] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: all of the settings in the config dialog seem like "defaults" as in, where is the CUPS folder etc
[02:37] <intelikey> nobody ?
[02:37] <greg_g_> sorry
[02:38] <colonia> hey, how can I kill adept?, I mean, I was trying to use Automatix but it says adept still running (I already closed it)
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> colonia- you can kill processes from KSysGuard
[02:38] <intelikey> !automatix
[02:38] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | colonia
[02:39] <ubotu> colonia: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:40] <Kr4t05> romudog: I'm going to give this the white flag. I'll just have to remake my backups or download what I no longer have. I paid for it once, I see no reason to do it again.
[02:40] <colonia> I'll try, thanks
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: ah ok
[02:40] <Kr4t05> ro
[02:40] <Kr4t05> romudog: Thanks anyway.
[02:40] <romudog> Kr4t05 Good luck!!!
[02:40] <greg_g_> launchpad question: Is "rejected" the right option to select if I want to cancel a bug, as in, it seems to no longer be reproducible on my computer, and never was on anyone elses
[02:40] <romudog> Kr4t05 Google linux recovery tool see if you can find any better
[02:41] <cWolfe> google makes a linux recovery tool?
[02:43] <romudog> Sorry i cant resist but yelling out a derogatory...
[02:43] <romudog> No...Google is a search engine..
[02:43] <romudog> Google reffers to the term of searching for...
[02:43] <romudog> :|
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> greg_g_- Dunno about Launchpad, but any decent bug tracking system should have an option/resolution for unable to reproduce
[02:45] <greg_g_> to answer myself: after some more looking (yes I looked before I asked) it seems that Rejected is the right option and that they are considering renaming that option to a less "emotionally changed" word like "declined" or "invalid"
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> Usually there's a slightly more descriptive option too, such as "not a bug" or "duplicate"
[02:52] <darkrift_> q: when watchign a movie in kaffiene, i only hear audio in one side of the headphones
[02:52] <darkrift_> anyone know how to check/fix that?
[02:53] <greg_g_> darkrift_: check your mixer first, the speaker icon in the tray
[02:54] <greg_g_> the horizontal slider on the bottom is balance
[02:54] <colonia> Whats the name of TLS package who is needed to install in order to run amsn?
[02:55] <greg_g> darkrift_: is that slider "centered"?
[02:56] <KoRNeTo> hi
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Hi guys
[03:01] <K-Ryan> How do I check what process is using my sound?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Anyone?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to check what process is using my sound?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Okay, how about terminating a process that needs root?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Why's it so quiet in here?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Nobody?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> 8 minutes and nothing?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Nobody has anything to say or ask?
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Please?
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !terminate
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terminate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !kill
[03:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !processes
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !process
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <K-Ryan> 12 minutes!
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Can nobody tell me how to end a process that uses root?
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Or how I can check what processes use my sound?
[03:14] <Jucato> sudo killall <insert process name here>
[03:14] <Jucato> (be careful with what you kill)
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Yes of course
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Thank you oh so much Jucato
[03:15] <K-Ryan> my console is definitely mocking me
[03:15] <K-Ryan> I ctrl+esc and I see hl.exe
[03:15] <K-Ryan> PID 7138
[03:15] <K-Ryan> So I "sudo killall 7138"
[03:15] <Jucato> I said process name, not process ID (PID)
[03:15] <K-Ryan> And get "7138: no process killed"
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Oh
[03:16] <ubuntu___> ?
[03:16] <K-Ryan> The one I heard about used PID
[03:16] <Jucato> you didn't hear it from me
[03:16] <ubuntu___> the book on the table ?
[03:16] <ubuntu___> books *
[03:16] <ubuntu___> XD
[03:16] <K-Ryan> I assumed process name meant PID
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Bad move on my part =P
[03:16] <roho> when i run adept, it now tells me there is a new version of kubuntu available and wants to know if i want to upgrade.  could someone point me to a page that will tell me what i can expect with the upgrade? like what problems, etc.
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Hm, is there any way to reload the taskbar without restarting X?
[03:17] <K-Ryan> So the process name would be hl.exe right?
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Because it doesn't work
[03:17] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:17] <K-Ryan> The command works, but the process is still there
[03:17] <Jucato> kill wine or wineserver.... why the hell is a windows app running as root?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> err
[03:18] <K-Ryan> To be honest I'm not sure
[03:18] <K-Ryan> But I needed sudo to get wine to be able to open an executable
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Btw, the process is still there.
[03:18] <Jucato> no
[03:19] <Jucato> you shouldn't need to use sudo w/ wine at all
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Jucato- eh, that didn't have quite the effect I was hoping for (compiled taskbar-compiz to try to get rid of "show windows from all desktops")
[03:19] <K-Ryan> I'll try it again
[03:19] <K-Ryan> But I just need to figure out how to get rid of it atm
[03:19] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: running compiz/beryl? that doesn't work
[03:19] <Jucato> K-Ryan: if wineserver is running, kill that
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> What doesn't work?
[03:20] <Jucato> disabling "show windows from all desktop"
[03:20] <K-Ryan> It doesn't seem to be running, I'll check again though.
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, and that's what the special taskbar-compiz version is supposed to fix
[03:21] <K-Ryan> wineserver isn't running
[03:21] <K-Ryan> What if I restart X?
[03:21] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: try asking around in #ubuntu-effects how to make it work. as for just restarting kicker without restarting KDE or X, you have the answer
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'll probably just try restarting X
[03:22] <K-Ryan> Alright I managed to get rid of one
[03:24] <roho> what kind of problems can i expect if i want to "convert" from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[03:24] <K-Ryan> how can i open up the process table from the console?
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> roho- if you're familiar with KDE, probably none
[03:25] <roho> sweet
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> If you've never used KDE, the typical learning experience
[03:25] <roho> just hanging out here and playing around with K apps has sold me.
[03:25] <roho> although i found a couple bugs
[03:29] <Ashex> This is total retardation
[03:29] <Ashex> gconf is causing my system to randomly reboot/freeze up
[03:32] <waltercool> !webcam
[03:32] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:32] <waltercool> someone can recommend me a good app for webcams?
[03:35] <splott> anyone alive in here?
[03:36] <splott> obviously not.
[03:37] <splott> obviously I should just go away and stop talking to myself.
[03:37] <roho> heh
[03:39] <Ashex> waltercool: I used to use camstreams
[03:39] <waltercool> is qt :S
[03:40] <Ashex> hmmm, I should stick my tortellini in the freezer...
[03:42] <ashnja> hello all
[03:42] <ashnja> i have a laptop that is using a d-link pcmcia card
[03:43] <ashnja> kubuntu detects it and uses atheros... but i do not get near the connectivity that (the OS that shall not be named) gets...
[03:43] <ashnja> that is not the bad part... the bad part is that it drops connection like every 5 minutes... something else that does not happen in..... you know what...
[03:44] <ashnja> how do i get kubuntu to use ndiswrapper and not the restricted module?
[03:44] <Ashex> ashnja: find out what the module is named, and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:45] <ashnja> it is currently using atheros
[03:45] <ashnja> so i edit blacklist and add atheros
[03:46] <Ashex> i believe so
[03:46] <ashnja> Ashex: once i do that... how do i go about getting ndiswapper operational and loading upon reboot
[03:49] <Ashex> sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper
[03:49] <Ashex> ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[03:49] <Ashex> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[03:49] <Ashex> that'll install ndiswrapper, load the proper driver, and add it to modprobe
[03:50] <Ashex> although, check up on a guide for your wireless chipset
[03:50] <Ashex> I'm not exactly a wireless guru
[03:50] <navets> where do I go for html help?
[03:50] <Ashex> ubuntuforums.org has a lot of good info
[03:50] <navets> k thx
[03:51] <Ashex> along with the ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:51] <Ashex> however, you should try googling it too, use your chipset in conjuction with the word ubuntu
[03:51] <ashnja> thank you very much for your info
[03:51] <Ashex> so, for example, I have a broadcom 4316, so I'd google for "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu"
[03:52] <Ashex> or more specifically, "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu ndiswrapper" to look for ndiswrapper info specifically
[03:52] <Jucato> !wiki
[03:52] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[04:06] <vlad88> porque nadie habla? XD
[04:09] <waltercool> porque esto es en ingles po noob
[04:10] <NickPresta> !es | vlad88 waltercool
[04:10] <ubotu> vlad88 waltercool: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:10] <vlad88> thanks, I did not know it.
[04:13] <Levi_> Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?
[04:13] <Levi_> Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?
[04:15] <vlad88> How can I set the "home" extra button in the keyboard to open the default browser?
[04:16] <vlad88> "Calculator" works fine opening speedchrunch
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: what does the web browser button open?
[04:16] <vlad88> etc. but "home" just does nothing, neither Konqueror, nor Firefox (which is my default browser)
[04:17] <vlad88> it does nothing
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: run "dmesg"
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> then press that key once
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> then run dmesg again. see if it added some new output.
[04:19] <vlad88> nop
[04:19] <vlad88> nothing new
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: what does the last line look like?
[04:20] <vlad88> "[ 7312.492801]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 4"
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: ok, cool
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: that means its detected as a keypress by the os.
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> not as a random ACPI event
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> so start up system settings
[04:21] <vlad88> yes
[04:22] <vlad88> (does it matter that I pressed around 5 times after that a not new message appears in dmesg?)
[04:22] <Ashex> anyone know of a note taking app like tomboy for kubuntu?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> Ashex: basKet
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: it means your kepress is detected as a keypress :)
[04:23] <Ashex> ah, thanks nosrednaekim :)
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> go to keyboard&mouse
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> keyboard shortcuts.
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> command shortcuts
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> find your webbrowser
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: got there?
[04:26] <estebanbianchi> hello
[04:26] <vlad88> nosrednaekim, yes thanks
[04:26] <estebanbianchi> anybody_
[04:26] <vlad88> the key was: XF86WWW
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: ok
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> hello
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, howdy
[04:27] <Arwen> I need a newer version of a package than the one in the repositories, what should I do?
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: so it works?
[04:27] <estebanbianchi> im running i this moment a feisty live c
[04:27] <estebanbianchi> i-d like to install but i cant
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: what package?
[04:27] <Arwen> mplayer
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: why not?
[04:27] <vlad88> nosrednaekim, yes it's working :), Thank you. btw. this is the preferred way of doing this?
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: yep!
[04:28] <estebanbianchi> cause when it starts the proceces iut stops in 15%
[04:28] <Arwen> so? any thoughts?
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: at least I think it is.
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you could always download the newest one from sourceforge
[04:28] <estebanbianchi> i tried with ext2 and ext3
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: it should be safe enough, search around on google, you can ussually find one
[04:28] <vlad88> As in Windiws that key is redirected to open the default program for html... anyway, its works, and works fine. Thanks.
[04:28] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, nosrednaekim, yes, I could build it myself, but that would bork apt wouldn't it?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think taht's where mplayer is hosted
[04:29] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, hint: sourceforge hosts *sources*
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: you might have to get the alternate installer.
[04:29] <jacques> chinese irc?
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: you can build it as a deb and then install it.
[04:29] <estebanbianchi> and..that probelam might be caused for...
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, not if you remove the current one through apt first
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> !ch
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, the question is how...
[04:29] <Arwen> !cn
[04:29] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: its really quite easy. there are tutorials.
[04:30] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, oh? and please don't say checkinstall. That screws up all the dependencies.
[04:30] <estebanbianchi> and whats the diference betwen regular and altenate nosrednaekim
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think its make_kpkg or something similar...but don't quote me :)
[04:30] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, regular is a live cd that you can test the OS with. Alternate is a true installer with all the options you'd expect.
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: I haven't done it in forever, I don't know if checkinstall was one of the steps
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> and its a bit more stable
[04:31] <Arwen> link to a guide? because debian packaging is a pain in the ***
[04:31] <estebanbianchi> like ubuntu breezy
[04:31] <Arwen> um, hate to break it to ya, but Breezy is dead.
[04:32] <estebanbianchi> well i might install the old ubuntu 5.10 and downoload the kub freezy
[04:32] <Arwen> freezy? lol
[04:32] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, so, get any links?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> breezy is not going to play well with new hardware
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, the alternate cd is a more traditional style linux installer...uses ncurses vice X if im not mistaken
[04:32] <Arwen> god damn it, compiling should have a progress bar!
[04:32] <estebanbianchi> but i will to install via console_..o i will have options?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, and gives you more detailed install options
[04:33] <Arwen> yes. lots of them.
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: it was a long time ago, i'm sorry. it was a tutorial on how to build amarok form source.
[04:33] <Arwen> heh...
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: KDE4's does...cmake does it for you
[04:34] <Arwen> it always scares me when gcc returns all these warnings... makes me feel something's actually broken :-\
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: heh, fatal ones are.. the... fatal ones..lol
[04:36] <Arwen> one of the things I hate most about debian packaging is compiling an app... and then noticing that everything's ruined because of a bad line in debian/rules ..
[04:36] <vlad88> what's for debian/rules?
[04:36] <Arwen> it's a makefile that describes how to compile an app
[04:36] <Arwen> !packaging | vlad88
[04:36] <ubotu> vlad88: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[04:38] <vlad88> nice, I'm going to read it, I'm kind of newbie in this, so many new things :p. thanks for the link Arwen
[04:38] <estebanbianchi> can i make downloads with the livecd?
[04:41] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:41] <Arwen> since it's late and nobody's here, any anime freaks here? :-P
[04:41] <zoohouse> I want to run winxp in a vm but I don't know which to choose. Which would be better Xen or VMware?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: vmware
[04:42] <Arwen> zoohouse, how new is your processor? I'd go with vmware.
[04:42] <zoohouse> Why vmware?
[04:42] <Arwen> it's better (tm)
[04:42] <vlad88> lol
[04:43] <zoohouse> heh
[04:43] <Arwen> dang, ffmpeg compiles slow..
[04:43] <estebanbianchi> back
[04:43] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, yo
[04:43] <vlad88> wait, talking about ffmepg, how can I compile it with 3gp support?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: its just more polished
[04:43] <vlad88> I tried it around 15 times
[04:43] <zoohouse> k
[04:43] <vlad88> :(
[04:43] <Arwen> vlad88, 3gp is the same thing as mp4
[04:43] <zoohouse> ill give it a shot
[04:43] <zoohouse> thanks
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> i made a cuestion before the crash...
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> can i start the altenate cd download with the livecd?
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> or may i install a real os
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> ?
[04:44] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, you won't have anywhere near enough RAM to cache that. Don't bother.
[04:44] <Arwen> but you can use the LiveCD to install the OS, yes.
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, you'll need to mount some kind of writable drive to save it to
[04:45] <estebanbianchi> i have mi hd
[04:45] <estebanbianchi> but i better install the old breezy
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, how is it formatted? ntfs or something else?
[04:46] <estebanbianchi> i think in this moment  its ext3
[04:46] <estebanbianchi> let me check
[04:46] <Arwen> ick, subpixel aa makes text hard to read on a CRT
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> oh, wait, can you burn a cd if you're on a live-cd?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> should be able too...just keep the OS in memory...
[04:47] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, only if you have 2 drives
[04:47] <Arwen> and an assload of RAM
[04:47] <NickPresta> hitmanWilly, you should be able to if you have two CD drives
[04:48] <NickPresta> Arwen, what are you compiling?
[04:48] <vlad88> Arwen, an easy way to add mp4/3gp support to ffmpeg?
[04:48] <Arwen> NickPresta, VLC this time
[04:48] <Arwen> vlad88, it should already be there
[04:48] <Arwen> if not, get medibuntu's build
[04:48] <Arwen> !medibuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, ok, you'll need to reboot to a os on the hd to burn the cd anyway...sorry :(
[04:48] <estebanbianchi> well i have a awap partiot
[04:48] <NickPresta> Arwen, out of curiosity, why are you compiling VLC?
[04:48] <vlad88> nice, thanks!
[04:48] <estebanbianchi> and a lot of free space
[04:49] <Arwen> NickPresta, because I want to be on the bleeding edge
[04:49] <Arwen> also, Ubuntu's VLC is half-assed
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> i think it has all its internal support for proprietary codecs compiled out...legal issues
[04:49] <NickPresta> Arwen, ah okay. Makes sense. I, too, compile stuff at times for bleeding edge. What does the newer version of VLC have over the repo. version?
[04:50] <Arwen> NickPresta, bugfixes. But the reason I'm compiling is for DMO/win32 support
[04:50] <estebanbianchi> may i format the free space in a specific filesistem in order to be recognised by the livecd_
[04:50] <Arwen> also, since VLC is statically linked to ffmpeg, I need to do this for new decoders
[04:51] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, filesystems don't have free space
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, the live cd will mount any recoignized partiton type just fine, you just have to do it by hand
[04:52] <NickPresta> Arwen, oh neat. I really wish there was a bleeding edge repo. that contained apache/php/perl/mysql/etc. I was thinking of becoming a package manager and setting up my own repo, etc but I don't have the time.
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> so..what is the console commnd to mount a hss_
[04:52] <Arwen> yeah, I don't have the bandwidth, but I have lots and lots of time :-)
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> hdd?
[04:52] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, "mount"
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> i have to be run as sudo>
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> ?
[04:53] <Arwen> yes
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, sudo mount -t <filesystem_type> /dev/<hard_drive> <mountpoint>
[04:54] <NickPresta> Arwen, well, I have the time to do it but I have the time to compile it for myself and such but to make the package, make sure it works for everyone else, etc, etc is too time consuming. It really would be nice though. That is a project I would donate to since I always have to compile my own web. dev. environment.
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, inserting appropriate values in the <>
[04:55] <estebanbianchi> oh, thanks hitmanWilly
[04:55] <vlad88> There's any real improvement in compiling your own kernel?
[04:55] <Arwen> vlad88, depends what you're looking for
[04:55] <Arwen> performance improvement? probably not unless you're doing some heavy duty stuff.
[04:55] <NickPresta> vlad88, my stance on that has always been: if you have no specific reason to roll your own kernel, don't bother.
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> vlad88, yes, but its not worth it for ubuntu
[04:55] <vlad88> nice
[04:55] <vlad88> hitmanWilly, why not for Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Arwen> basically, you run into tons of problems with custom kernels since Ubuntu's kernels have all kinds of tweaks
[04:55] <Arwen> nonstandard ones at that
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> vlad88, its a real pita to roll your own for ubuntu, and it gets killed on the next kernel update anyway
[04:56] <vlad88> :O
[04:56] <Arwen> also, if you have ATI, your graphics card won't work with a kernel past 2.6.20 :-)
[04:57] <vlad88> nah, I have a crappy Unichrome Pro (P4M800), using Openchrome drivers
[04:57] <Arwen> unichrome? as in black/white?
[04:57] <vlad88> haha
[04:57] <vlad88> that's monochrome I think
[04:57] <vlad88> well
[04:58] <vlad88> actually your'e right
[04:58] <Arwen> YES! IT WORKED!
[04:58] <Arwen> LOL
[04:58] <Arwen> so you have a monochrome video card?
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, :) good for you
[04:58] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, hehe, I'm not done yet... now I have to pray debian/rules isn't b0rk3d
[04:58] <Arwen> and... it is
[04:59] <vlad88> [20:58]  <Arwen> so you have a monochrome video card? => no! LOL
[04:59] <Dr_willis> CGA mode!
[04:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you could always just make install it...
[05:00] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, has anyone used the Action Replay DS's software on GNU+Linux?
[05:00] <vlad88> 20:59]  <Dr_willis> CGA mode! => lol
[05:01] <Arwen> noooo.... my ascii art video drivers are missing!
[05:01] <vlad88> hahaha
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:02] <vlad88> XD
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think you have to compile that into the kernel :P
[05:02] <Arwen> yeah, somehow VLC compiled with aa disabled.... irritating..
[05:02] <Dr_willis> yea AA is such a IN demand feature!:)
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you may have to play around in its make.conf...
[05:03] <Arwen> yeah, it's not a big deal, but still...
[05:03] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, it's weird though, I'm using Ubuntu's default config
[05:03] <Arwen> it should be on
[05:03] <Dr_willis> i seem to recall that working once in ubuntu for me
[05:03] <Dr_willis> over ssh even
[05:04] <Dr_willis> was playing with mc. and some how started a video. :) was watching Porn in Ascii Art
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I was all confused
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> or if you even can...
[05:07] <leomcabral> Any one know a tool for recording the desktop?
[05:07] <vlad88> does anybody know of Autocad working over Wine?
[05:08] <NickPresta> leomcabral, I really like RecordMyDesktop
[05:08] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  ive never had any luck in that.. over the last 5+ years. :) not tried a recent autocad lately however
[05:08] <estebanbianchi> well i might leave
[05:08] <NickPresta> leomcabral, it is provided by the 'recordmydesktop' package. You want a frontend though - 'gtk-recordmydesktop' is slightly better than 'qt-recordmydesktop'
[05:08] <estebanbianchi> i love the comunity
[05:09] <estebanbianchi> they never let me alone
[05:09] <estebanbianchi> thanks guys
[05:09] <leomcabral> NickPresta: it did not work to me, when I try to playback the ogg file kaffeine shows a blue screen
[05:09] <Dr_willis> leomcabral,  sounds like you may be missing a video codec to play the video.
[05:09] <vlad88> Dr_willis, do you think Bricscard can replace Autocad in Linux?
[05:10] <leomcabral> Dr_willis: its a ogg file, I thought I had the codec
[05:11] <mneptok> leomcabral: URL?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  never used that one. I only have minimal cad needs these days. Been using qcad mainly
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, ogg is just a container...not a media type
[05:12] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: so what codec recordmydesktop use
[05:12] <leomcabral> ?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, probably theora
[05:12] <leomcabral> mneptok: I did not get it!
[05:12] <vlad88> Dr_willis, any good 3d cad you know?, nothing professional, just for homeworks and so
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, that's the usual video type stored in ogg format
[05:13] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: Kubuntu did not come with it?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  no idea there. I aint needed 3d in ages..
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, should have....
[05:14] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: what's the package name?
[05:14] <vlad88> Thanks anyway Dr_willis :)
[05:15] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: libtheora0 is installed
[05:15] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: i'm trying to install libtheora-bin
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, hmmm, maybe the capture app isn't working right for you then....
[05:16] <NickPresta> I can't even playback my desktop recording ([xv]  Source image dimensions are too high: 3360x1040 (maximum is 2046x2046))
[05:16] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I can playback it well on MPlayer (it tells me i have a missing codec as well)
[05:17] <vlad88> Any Calc better than SpeedCrunch?
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> wait, does it save it as xvid?
[05:18] <vlad88> I tried xmaxima... but after Derive it (xmaxima) seems pretty old
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> or is the [xv]  something else?
[05:18] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: don't know!!! But i can see xvid movies here, so i have the codec
[05:19] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I missed it, what is [xv] ?
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, might be an issue with xine...you can probably change kaffeine to use mplayer
[05:19] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I know xine have it
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, from NickPresta's error msg
[05:20] <NickPresta> it's an Ogg Theora video.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> that's what i thought...the xv thing threw me for a sec there....
[05:20] <Dr_willis> id say try vlc from the terminal , or some other player. see what sort of info they spit out.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> yeah, same here...
[05:21] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I can play with kaffeine now, i changed xine video driver to xshm
[05:22] <leomcabral> it was in "auto"
[05:23] <ubuntu__> will kubuntu wwwwork with 1680-1050 and look ok
[05:23] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: i have to do the same thing to get videos working in kaffeine with beryl
[05:23] <leomcabral> ps.: I'm not using beryl now
[05:23] <NickPresta> ubuntu__, yes, Kubuntu looks fine at 1680x1050. I use that resolution for many months.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu__, yes, use that setting myself
[05:24] <Arwen> hmm, yeah, too b0rk3d to use
[05:24] <estebanbianchi> hey is any possibility to uninstall th ksnapshot...i have the impr pant button to close to the delete button..and i activate the snapshot frecuently
[05:24] <darwin81> I have a 250GB HDD and I want to install Kubuntu on it. I have 20GB for a Windows partition and the rest for Ubuntu. I want to give about 10GB for the Kubuntu install. What is the best way to do this? (I know I can install KDE in GNOME, but that makes things cluttered)
[05:26] <CadaverPimp> darwin81: I have a 500GB hdd with 120GB to winxp and the rest to KUBUNTU. Minus 4 GB for SWAP. I have KDE, GNOME and XFCE all rolled into one. Cluttered? Hardly
[05:27] <morph_> hello all
[05:27] <DaSkreech> estebanbianchi: I guess you could change the button that calls it to ctrl+PrntScrn
[05:27] <estebanbianchi> oh thanks DaSkreech
[05:27] <draik> darwin81: I don't know, that's just me
[05:27] <morph_> I just installed openoffice on 7.04 and when I start writer it has no graphics
[05:28] <morph_> anyone know why?
[05:28] <morph_> is there something missing
[05:28] <fabioasj> Fala Galera e ai
[05:28] <DaSkreech> morph_: You installed OO.o?
[05:28] <morph_> yes
[05:28] <fabioasj> estou procurando um brasileiro
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't it be installed by default?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !br
[05:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:28] <fabioasj> sim
[05:28] <morph_> I removed it
[05:29] <fabioasj> portugues
[05:29] <morph_> uninstalled
[05:29] <morph_> couldnt start it with kiba dock
[05:29] <morph_> thought it was not installed correctly
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> morph_, doubt its a dependency issue, apt/adept should automagically pull those in on install
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !pt
[05:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> morph_: try installing the OO.o KDE support
[05:30] <morph_> all oo.o programs have no graphics in gui
[05:31] <morph_> ok trying now
[05:32] <vlad88> good night, thanks for all!
[05:32] <darwin81> draik, Well do you know what I can do to do what I asked?
[05:33] <draik> Partition Magic if doing it from winxp or QT Parted if done from Kubuntu
[05:35] <darwin81> Can I just set aside 10GB of free space and tell the Kubuntu installer to use the largest free space?
[05:35] <ardchoille> darwin81: Yes, you can create a partition and tell the kubuntu installer to use that partition for the install.
[05:37] <darwin81> How would that affect GRUB? Could a separate Kubuntu install use the same swap space as Ubuntu?
[05:37] <ardchoille> grub will find your other installs and add them to the menu
[05:37] <DaSkreech> darwin81: that's not a lot of space and yes it will use the same swap space
[05:38] <ardchoille> Not sure about swap partitions.. I don't think I've ever used mine.
[05:38] <DjDarkman> Hy, no mather what I do amarok won`t play mp3`s, what should I try?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> darwin81,  swap parittions can be used by all the disrtos.
[05:38] <darwin81> I just wanna try out Kubuntu with a fresh install. I think 10GB would be enough.
[05:38] <DjDarkman> I have another system, that plays mp3`s just right with the same setup
[05:38] <crimsun> DjDarkman: is libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> DjDarkman: did you install MP3 support?
[05:39] <darwin81> Also would that mean that mean I would have to edit the GRUB files in the Kubuntu install instead?
[05:40] <DjDarkman> ahhh this was the problem
[05:40] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu installs ive see - are good in finding all the other disrtos and setting up grub for them
[05:40] <DjDarkman> you should update the faq on kubuntu.org
[05:40] <DjDarkman> it`s information that it diplays is no longer relevant
[05:42] <DaSkreech> DjDarkman: installing libxine-extracodecs still works
[05:42] <DjDarkman> DaSkreech: no it will not, maybe it`s dependencies are not set up right
[05:47] <darwin81> Are there only DVD's available for BitTorrent?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> no
[05:47] <DaSkreech> all images have a torrent file
[05:58] <thev> Amarok can move data back and forth from my MTP device, no problem.  Anyone have any idea how I can browse it in konqueror?
[06:02] <vecina> um... how come pressing 'backspace' when i have the shift key held down logs me out?
[06:03] <crimsun> it doesn't here.
[06:03] <vecina> Yes, it does. anywhere.
[06:03] <vecina> o.O
[06:03] <vecina> it -didnt- but now it does
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vecina: Sure your alt or ctrl kes aren't stuck ?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Thats a GLX thing...
[06:05] <Dr_willis> i do belive.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> beryl/glx/whatever ya call it.
[06:05] <vecina> oops i just did it
[06:05] <vecina> gah
[06:05] <vecina> no they're not stuckk, because when it does this it just logs out to a blue screen and i have to press 'ctrl-alt-backspace' to get to the login
[06:06] <darwin81> Is there a better way of checking MD5SUMs other than just looking at them?
[06:06] <vecina> Shift and backspace should not do anything. i saw no mention in the keyboard shortcuts
[06:06] <Dr_willis> the md5sum command has some optons
[06:06] <Dr_willis> vecina,  i recall it being some special 'exit' sequence for the fancy 3d  stuff thats in glx/beryl
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Its not a kde/gnome shortcut. but one for the beryl window manager
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[06:07] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:07] <vecina> WOAH! loading up KDBus did the same thing
[06:08] <vecina> whats going on
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Shift backspace is a beryl bug
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: well i just installed beryl
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: However, beryl is not currently activated and its still doing it
[06:09] <DaSkreech> vecina: press alt+space
[06:09] <DaSkreech> what do you get ?
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: katapult
[06:10] <DaSkreech> hmm ok
[06:10] <vecina> DaSkreech: my dbus viewing program did the EXACT same thing
[06:10] <DaSkreech> far as i know that's a beryl bug taken from Compiz
[06:10] <vecina> its not the same as ctrl-alt-backspace.
[06:10] <ubuntu__> !video
[06:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !video card
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <DaSkreech> right I know what you are talking about but it's from beryl. there is a an easy fix for it
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !videocard
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videocard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !graphics
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !list
[06:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:11] <DaSkreech> You just have to disable the shift+backspace key combo
[06:11] <vecina> DaSkreech: thats nowhere in the beryl settings
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vecina: I know :-P that's why it's a bug and not a feature
[06:12] <vecina> DaSkreech: Erm... so what do i do?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vecina: you could ask in #ubuntu-efffects
[06:13] <vecina> alright...
[06:13] <DaSkreech> the fix used to be in gconf-editor for compiz
[06:13] <DaSkreech> as far as i know in beryl they uncoupled that and you can just put in a file. I don't know the name of the file though
[06:13] <darwin81> Can I compare the contents of a CD to an ISO file?
[06:14] <rathel__> hmm... Kopete doesn't seem to be saving my settings automatically, I'm trying to hide the "Formatting Toolbar" but everytime I reopen up the Chat window is back.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> darwin81: sort of. but ...
[06:15] <DaSkreech> darwin81: if you have already burnt the CD it has a CD check on it
[06:16] <vecina> lol, it's actually a "Feature" of xgl. a developer thought ctrl-alt-backspace was too hard and shift-backspace made mroe sense
[06:16] <Dr_willis> im trying to figure out how all these people accidently hit shift-backspace :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> like one guy i saw complaining about a bug that Ctrl-PrintScreen locked up his pc all the time.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> its a debugging the kernel feature. :)
[06:17] <thev> Why does the save dialogue in Firefox look like Gnomish, instead of KDEish?
[06:17] <rathel__> lol What's shift-backspace do?
[06:17] <darwin81> Dr_willis, What does that do? Because now I'm tempted to do it
[06:17] <thev> as does the scroll bar... :/
[06:18] <DaSkreech> rathel__: kill the session
[06:18] <rathel__> DaSkreech: kewl.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> darwin81,  it enableds the serial terminal debugger I belive.
[06:18] <ubuntu__> whats the command for hardware log?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> darwin81,  so if you had a serial terminal on the serial port - ya could get info off it.
[06:18] <DaSkreech> thev: It's a Gnome app?
[06:18] <darwin81> Daskreech, as in restart X?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> darwin81,  for Kernel Debugging mainly I hear.
[06:19] <DaSkreech> yay Vista
[06:19] <darwin81> sarcasm?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> My wife likes vista.. because she has a "8-ball" sidepanel applet :)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> well no. It won't lock up for Ctrl+Print screen
[06:20] <Dr_willis> and a lights out game
[06:20] <DaSkreech> I can get it to reboot on command though :)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  it may be disabled by default now a days. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  make a user called 'halt' that has a shell of /bin/halt :) and no password..
[06:21] <Dr_willis> did that once so the wife could shut down the linux box from the login: prompt. years ago heh.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> su halt
[06:22] <AlphaCluster> anyone here that can help me get a sata drive recognized
[06:23] <rathel__> I'm having an Issue with Samba Server I think I set it up correctly, When I do \\(ip address) in Windows and I type in my Username and Password, I get "is not accessible. You might not have permission.. blah blah"
[06:23] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  well #1 - did ya make a user have a smbpasswd with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  also you did install the samba server packages?  you did enable the Home shares in the smb config file? (and then restarted the service)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Thats about the 3 steps i always seem to do. Not sure if the smbpasswd is needed under feisty any more
[06:24] <rathel__> Dr_willis: hmm... lol no, I just went into the "Sharing" in the System Settings part.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  that 'way' does not enable the full samba. thats a web/interface i THINK.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> I never use that 'way' :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> so i may be wrong.
[06:25] <mrbrdo> guys, has something been changed regarding to wlan in feisty? after i upgraded from edgy i started having problems with madwifi-ng, i create my dev in monitor mode but the mac address of the new dev is wrong. didn't happen in edgy :S
[06:30] <rathel__> Dr_willis: I enabled homes in the config, now how would I restart it? lol
[06:30] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/rc.d/samba restart
[06:30] <Dr_willis> or similer
[06:30] <Dr_willis> theres some other nicer command. but i forget what it is
[06:31] <Dr_willis>        \\ip.add.re.ss\youruser (MIGHT) work for ya.
[06:31] <Dr_willis>        \\ip.add.re.ss\home  might also.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> the homes share is special and is uspposed to go to the users home dir. but some times it gets confused
[06:32] <rathel__> Dr_willis: It's working now, and I didn't restart it. :X
[06:33] <Dr_willis>  i always enable write permission to the shares as well
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[06:33] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[06:34] <Dr_willis> samba-doc has several guides/books in Html format. thats good for reading
[06:34] <rathel__> Okay, thank's I'll check it out.
[06:35] <rathel__> I'm downloading the samba-doc now, how do I access it when it's finished? lol I newb.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> it puts some docs some where.. use the package manager to see what it isntalls where
[06:36] <Dr_willis>  - /usr/share/docs/SOMTHING is my guess
[06:36] <jacques> ubotu> how can I connect to french irc?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !fr
[06:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:36] <rathel__> Aw yes the package manager... somehow I forgot about that.
[06:43] <jacques_> hi there
[06:48] <bryan> Hey guys/girls, can anyone help with this? Im quite honestly pretty desperate right now: Did a clean install of Ubuntu on my Macbook (well, friend did), Ubunu runs fine, but I REALLY need OS X back right now, and my Macbook refuses to boot from the Apple install DVD, which I know is fine.....?
[06:48] <bryan> I get a "Cannont mount" error message?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> bryan: can you type in df -h on the command line and pastebin it
[06:49] <DaSkreech> !paste | bryan
[06:49] <ubotu> bryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:49] <bryan> ooops, haha, sorry about that
[06:52] <bryan> what happens after I paste?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> you will get a URL paste that back in this chan
[06:53] <bryan> and, I apologize in advance for any horribly noob questions, Ive run Linux on my Mac boxes for a while, but virtually, this was a 1st hard install, ok, ill get the url
[06:54] <bryan> ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26220/
[06:54] <bryan> i hope thats correct :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> "=_
[06:55] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:55] <crdlb> bryan, you're rebooting with the cd in the drive?
[06:55] <bryan> yeah, as normal, Ill take my "noob" comment, Im quite proficient in OSX, and Im rebooting my MB as usual, "C" to boot from the drive
[06:56] <bryan> simply not working? And when Im in Ubuntu, and insert the install DVD, I get a 'cannot mount volume" error message
[06:56] <DaSkreech> bryan: ha ha :)
[06:56] <DaSkreech> are you in Ubuntu now?
[06:56] <bryan> yeah Im in Konversation now
[06:57] <DaSkreech> bryan: ok open konsole
[06:57] <bryan> haha, ok ok, well, noob as far as Linux hard installs go, of course, and this, to me at this point, is a huge problem haha
[06:58] <bryan> well, ill restate, im using Konversatio in Gnome, so, just open the terminal im gueeins? :) haha, dont kill me
[06:58] <DaSkreech> type in df -h and copy the output into paste bin :) give us back the URL for that one
[06:59] <DaSkreech> certainly
[06:59] <bryan> ok done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/
[07:00] <bryan> the funny thing is, after I get OS X back, im 100% going to make this MB a dual boot with Ubuntu or Kubuntu haha, its been a looong day, but, I still am enjoying Linux, haha
[07:00] <bryan> love/hate at the moment:)
[07:02] <codyman> i have an athlon xp 1600+ w/ 768 mb ram & nvidia 5500 fx ... i'm loving kubuntu and its interface... but I am getting not the greatest performance out of simple kde actions such as windows opening / closing etc. .. I know my system is older but is this normal for my specs?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> How big is your hard drive?
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> http://xkcd.com/c278.html
[07:03] <bryan> usually in OSX about 72GB avail
[07:03] <bryan> 80GB drive
[07:05] <bryan> when Ubuntu was installed from the LiveCD, the whole disk was used, "guided installation" if thats a factor
[07:06] <Dodger73> yello
[07:07] <DaSkreech> crdlb: you know macs?
[07:07] <crdlb> nope
[07:07] <Dodger73> is there anyone here who knows a little about the intricacies of fglrx under feisty?
[07:07] <Dodger73> i can't seem to get it to work... :/
[07:07] <bryan> damn haha, Im striking out, its an Intel Mac if it matters...
[07:07] <Dodger73> crdlb: cool :) willing to help me out a little?
[07:08] <Dodger73> ah nm
[07:08] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok what's the output of fglrxinfo?
[07:08] <Dodger73> ok
[07:08] <codyman> who needs help with a mac
[07:08] <Dodger73> here it is:
[07:08] <DaSkreech> bryan: well.. uubuntu takes up about 72 GB according to this
[07:09] <bryan> wow
[07:09] <Dodger73> crdlb:  X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[07:09] <Dodger73> Major opcode of failed request:  128 (XFree86-DRI)
[07:09] <crdlb> Dodger73, that sounds like you're using vesa
[07:09] <bryan> is there any reason though the Apple install disc shouldnt be mounting? or bootable?
[07:09] <Dodger73> no, using fglrx in xorg.conf
[07:09] <crdlb> Dodger73, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:09] <crdlb> and what ati card do you have?
[07:09] <crdlb> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:10] <bryan> i read some docs on the etc/fsatb folder, but, for some odd reason, I have no fsatb folder
[07:10] <DaSkreech> bryan: it's a file
[07:10] <DaSkreech>  /etc/fstab
[07:10] <bryan> yeah exactly
[07:10] <bryan> not even there?
[07:11] <Dodger73> crdlb: on it
[07:11] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26223/
[07:11] <DaSkreech> not even there what?
[07:11] <bryan> went to places>computer>etc> and theres no fstab
[07:12] <Dodger73> also, it's a X1900xtx PCI-e
[07:12] <bryan> is that the wrong directory?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> there should be
[07:12] <Dodger73> feisty 32-bit
[07:12] <DaSkreech> can you check again
[07:12] <bryan> yeah
[07:12] <DaSkreech> places -> filesystem -> etc i think
[07:12] <Dodger73> everything works fine except 3d accel - i get the aforementioned dri error
[07:13] <bryan> yeah: places>computer>filesystem>etc
[07:13] <bryan> no fstab
[07:13] <Dodger73> and when i run with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa, opengl apps run, but seemingly with software rendering and dog slow
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> bryan, find /etc -iname 'fstab' in a console
[07:13] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[07:13] <Dodger73> all of it or just the EE/WW?
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> bryan, see if it returns anything
[07:14] <bryan> ok let me check
[07:14] <Dodger73> crdlb: all of it, or just errors and warnings?
[07:14] <crdlb> Dodger73, the whole thing
[07:15] <Dodger73> crdlb: sec
[07:15] <bryan> bash: /etc: is a directory
[07:16] <bryan> to: HitmanWillly and DeScreetch, thats what i get?
[07:16] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26224/
[07:16] <wolferine> what is the difference between sudo su - postgres and su - postgres
[07:17] <wolferine> does sudo su require my 'root' pass, where as the other requires my user 'postgres' pass?
[07:17] <bryan> sorry if Im doing somethting wrong in terminal, I copied pasted that code, and I got that bash
[07:17] <DaSkreech> wolferine: one will ask for a password one will ask for your password
[07:17] <wolferine> DaSkreech, you mean what I said?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> wolferine: yes what you said
[07:18] <bryan> bash: /etc: is a directory    also returned that
[07:18] <crdlb> DaSkreech, it might be related to: (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  Could not create dummy context but I really have no idea
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, you probably left off the find cmd
[07:19] <bryan> haha, of course
[07:19] <DaSkreech> crdlb: Sorry?
[07:19] <crdlb> DaSkreech, pastebin the output of: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[07:19] <bryan> can you post the code i should copy in? ill just copy.paste if thats cool
[07:19] <wolferine> no
[07:19] <Dodger73> DaSkreech: he means me i think  ;)
[07:20] <wolferine> !pastebin | bryan
[07:20] <ubotu> bryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <Dodger73> crdlb: sec
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> find /etc -iname 'fstab'
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Dodger73: I hope so :)
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ^^
[07:20] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26225/
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> bryan, all that does is search in /etc for files named fstab
[07:21] <bryan> ok
[07:21] <bryan> getting the 'no such file or directory'
[07:22] <crdlb> Dodger73, I've got no idea, did it happen even with the driver in feisty's repos? xorg-driver-fglrx?
[07:22] <Dodger73> yeah
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> bryan, cd /etc && ls | grep fstab
[07:22] <Dodger73> and then i tried every howto under the su
[07:22] <Dodger73> n
[07:22] <Dodger73> and envy
[07:22] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/
[07:22] <bryan> HitManWilly - aplogies: I got this :
[07:22] <bryan> find: /etc/ssl/private: Permission denied
[07:22] <bryan> /etc/fstab
[07:24] <bryan> cd /etc && ls | grep fstab
[07:24] <bryan> got that after the cd/etc && command
[07:24] <Dodger73> crdlb: well, thanks anyway :)
[07:24] <bryan> haha, am I transferring a headache to you too? sorry
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, fstab is there....
[07:25] <bryan> oh, ok ? well good to know, just not visual
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> bryan, try sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:26] <bryan> ok
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> bryan, does it come up with a blank file or is there text in it?
[07:26] <bryan> nope, theres text
[07:27] <bryan> i was going to paste it like before
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> bryan, please pastebin the contents of fstab if you would
[07:28] <bryan> ok no prob one sec
[07:29] <bryan> himanWilly>     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26226/
[07:30] <frietz> #cakephp
[07:30] <se7en> is there a tool that can syncronize (only cp new files) between 2 hdd?
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, so you want to mount the install DVD right? try mount /media/cdrom0
[07:31] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: You know this is the Mac DVD right?
[07:32] <bryan> yeah, Im trying to re-install OS X from my Tiger install DVD, is that what I should do?
[07:32] <bryan> I also have the Tiger install CD's
[07:32] <bryan> if thats a factor
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> bryan, oh, wait....hold on a sec...
[07:32] <bryan> haha ok no worries
[07:33] <bryan> I can use the CDs as well if thats the pron
[07:33] <bryan> prob*
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, so are you trying to wipe out ubuntu and reinstall OSX?
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> bryan, or set up a dual boot?
[07:33] <bryan> I want to fresh install OS X for now, yeah, wipe out, only OS X on this
[07:34] <wolferine> is there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, just scrolled up and read the initial prob again...
[07:34] <bryan> ok
[07:34] <Dodger73> crdlb: ok, so i uninstalled the proprietary driver and re-installed the ones from the repos
[07:34] <unclephreak> geez, how many people are in here and how many bots?
[07:34] <Dodger73> now i get mesa with glxinfo
[07:35] <bryan> yeah, basically, Im just trying to install OS X, fresh, on whole HD, no dual boot
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> bryan, i really don't know much about OSX, but this sounds like a problem with it...
[07:35] <bryan> yeah, this isnt good right now, worst possible timing
[07:35] <Dodger73> and a GLX error with fgl_glxgears
[07:35] <bryan> I mean, if I can even do a dual boot machine right now, thats acceptable
[07:36] <wolferine> !postgresql
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <wolferine> !psql
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <bryan> if thats my only resort
[07:36] <crdlb> Dodger73, sudo modprobe fglrx
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> bryan, i would say try with the cd's as it might be an issue with the dvd drive booting
[07:36] <Dodger73> crdlb: ah ok, wasn't loaded - restart the x server after that?
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> bryan, other than that, try in #apple or #osx or someplace like that
[07:36] <crdlb> Dodger73, yeah try that
[07:37] <Dodger73> thx :)
[07:37] <bryan> i did, the CDs have the same problem, wont boot, and when I insert the CD or DVD in Ubuntu, I get that "cannot mount volume error"
[07:37] <bryan> oh ok
[07:37] <bryan> so, well, not to sound pushy, but,  is that as far as we can go here?
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> bryan, that really sounds like an osx error, not an ubuntu one...sorry
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> bryan, that's about as far as i know...zero experience with macs
[07:38] <bryan> ok cool
[07:38] <Dodger73> crdlb: ok.. same thing. fglrx kernel module is now loaded - still mesa and the glx error with fgl_glxgears
[07:38] <bryan> well, honestly, I REALLY appreciate the help!
[07:38] <bryan> ill see what I can find out
[07:38] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log again
[07:38] <bryan> i dont care if I have to dual boot, thats ok too
[07:39] <DaSkreech> bryan: try ##apple
[07:39] <bryan> ok
[07:40] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/
[07:40] <wolferine> is there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?
[07:41] <crdlb> Dodger73, (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[07:41] <Dodger73> well darn
[07:41] <root> hell-o
[07:41] <crdlb> somehow the intaller's fglrx kernel module didn't get removed
[07:42] <Dodger73> but i've got linux-restricted-modules and xorg-driver-fglrx from the repositories installed
[07:42] <Dodger73> shouldn't that be the two packages i need?
[07:42] <crdlb> yes
[07:42] <crdlb> Dodger73, what's in your /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ?
[07:42] <Dodger73> crdlb: DISABLED_MODULES=""
[07:42] <Dodger73> just checked that.. first thing i thought ;)
[07:42] <talon223> what's the easiest way to de-clutter kde...i'm coming from gnome and possibly going back because there's just..too much stuff...i've even opted to not show my gnome apps and it's still too much...
[07:43] <talon223> any scripts that clean it up or what?
[07:44] <crdlb> Dodger73, well what if you: sudo modprobe -r fglrx && sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx ?
[07:45] <Dodger73> went through without an error - i should probably restart x again to see any effect?
[07:45] <crdlb> yeah and if that doesn't work, you may want to try to find the installer's fglrx module
[07:45] <crdlb> and remove it
[07:46] <Dodger73> ok
[07:46] <Dodger73> thanks a lot - i appreciate the help!
[07:46] <Dodger73> brb :)
[07:51] <Ryiel> !chroot
[07:51] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:52] <Daisuke-Ido> ah, fun with cron jobs
[07:52] <Ryiel> not what i was looking for... :(
[07:57] <Ryiel> guys i wanna chroot into another linux, how to mount it? I don't remember... mount -o ? or what?
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, is it on the same drive?
[07:58] <Ryiel> yep, same drive. I remember mounting /proc and /dev but thats all i can remember :)
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, or to put it another way, mount the other install and chroot <mountpoint>
[07:59] <Ryiel> just chroot it? No need to mount /proc and /dev?
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, i don't believe so
[08:00] <DaSkreech> everyone isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?
[08:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to connect my Laptop to my brand new shiny NSLU2, which is going to be "unslung" to a nice little debian server today
[08:01] <Ryiel> thanks hitmanWilly
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> np
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It's hooked up with a crossover cable, I wonder why it would not let me connect to the web interface, or even ping it
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, or if you're really worried about chroot then mount -a
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, if the other install is set up properly, it should then mount everything in it's fstab
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: ;)
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, including proc and dev
[08:03] <Ryiel> hitmanWilly: its not properly installed atm i just wanted to work on it :)
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, ok :)
[08:04] <Ryiel> mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc && mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev <-- A friend just told me this but it does not work... :(
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, lemme guess, mount point not empty or some such thing, right?
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> ok, later all
[08:12] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[08:12] <lordofthepigs> I'm trying to compile kdesvn on my Kubuntu feisty
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> but it complains that it cannot find the KDE3_INCLUDE_DIR environment variable
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> I'm obviously missing some header package, but I can't find which one
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> uh
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> why?
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> does anybody know which one that could be?
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> why are you even compiling it?
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Because the version in the repositories is outdated.
[08:14] <DaSkreech> !info kdesvn
[08:14] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> does it still work?
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> does the new version have some "must have" feature?
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> just asking the common sense questions here
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> because...
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Honestly, I dunno... :)
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> !worksforme | lordofthepigs
[08:14] <ubotu> lordofthepigs: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:14] <DaSkreech> lordofthepigs: try the one in the repos :)
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Yeah, I know
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> but still, I'd like to try compiling it properly
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> I found kde-devel
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> but the description doesn't say wether it includes the headers or not
[08:15] <Daisuke-Ido> kde-devel is the headers
[08:16] <steve> hello
[08:17] <lordofthepigs> Bah, and in case I can't get it to compile and work properly, I'll use the version in the repository
[08:18] <steve> can someone help me figure out why my WINE program isnt working properly
[08:24] <julius> steve: possibly
[08:25] <julius> steve: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <paolo>  Hi. how can i see the network traffic in a form similar to ethereal?
[09:09] <yknott> steve: which is that?
[09:34] <paolo> A simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?
[09:35] <paolo> A simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?
[09:35] <Luke> hi, I have a Dell INSPIRON 9300 and the Touchpad is being really nasty, how can I fix it?
[09:36] <waylandbill> paolo: the ifconfig should simply take effect if the card supports changing on the fly.
[09:37] <paolo> waylandbill: i see. so, what should I do in order to assure that config files are wrote after ifconfig, without rebooting?
[09:37] <Luke> Hello???
[09:38] <Luke> does anyone know how to congigure a Touchpad in Feisty on a Dell?
[09:39] <Evil_DuDe> Luke: my friend says that there are drivers for Touchpad in repos
[09:39] <Evil_DuDe> don't know anything else
[09:41] <Luke> the drivers and stuff work, but it left click when you tap it twice
[09:42] <Luke> I used qsynaptics to configure it but when I restart it just goes back to default
[09:43] <waylandbill> paolo: doing an ifconfig command modifies the config files and then makes the card apply the new settings in one step.
[09:44] <paolo> waylandbill: should i do ifconfig eth0 down/up  before/after changing the configuration?
[09:44] <rathel__> I got a question it's not linux related, but does anyone know of a good Headphone review site or something? I need new ones and don't know what to get.
[09:45] <Lynoure> rathel__: headfi rules, but yeah, that question was better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic than here
[09:47] <noonker__> Hey guys can you help me, i got a problem with kubuntu on my other computer
[09:47] <rathel__> OoO there's an off topic channel, sorry about that.
[09:47] <noonker__> How do you restore the xorg.conf
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> noonker__: IIRC that's "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or similar
[09:54] <paolo> another question: is there a "dhcp" option in ifconfig? or should i use something else?
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: Do you have a DHCP server on your network? That could be your router, for instance...
[09:55] <paolo> MilhousePunkRock: of course i have it
[09:55] <Lynoure> paolo: you can put dhcp into /etc/interfaces , at least
[09:56] <paolo> but i would use a shell command
[09:56] <Lynoure> paolo: see   man ifconfig  for the options it support
[09:56] <paolo> Lynoure: already done
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: If you are unsure, just use KNetworkManager, the settings from there go straight to you /etc/network/interfaces
[09:57] <paolo> MilhousePunkRock: no. i don't want to use guis
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: Nice... So it's "sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:58] <Lynoure> paolo: you could pastebin the interfaces and ifconfig for further help.
[09:59] <paolo> ok, someone suggested me dhclient
[09:59] <paolo> let's try
[10:01] <Lynoure> paolo: you pretty much need to have dhclient  for dhcp to work :) And trying with it manually does not hurt either
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure Kubuntu comes with a pretty extensive default /etc/network/interfaces, huh? Gentoo has one with _all_ possible options and explanations
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: If it's just a SOHO network, I'd go for static IP settings though, as a side effect it will make your system boot a split second faster, because it does not have to wait for the DHCP lease
[10:03] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: it
[10:03] <waylandbill> 's not that much of a difference
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: I said "split second". My router is pretty stupid with his DHCP server, might give different IPs to the same machine on the next boot, so some services won't work, that's why I turned it off
[10:04] <waylandbill> the advantage especially for wifi is that you can just enter the key on a laptop and go without needing to manually config everytime a new pc is introduced.
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Newer routers might have a option to assign the same IPs based on the client's MAC address though.
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Technically mine has that option too, but my ISP was so kind to cripple the firmware totally and throw that option out...
[10:05] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: I've never seen a router that doesn't have leases based on the MAC. The lease expiration time is probably set to low on that one.
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: And flashing the manufacturer's firmware back would involve soldering a serial port onto the board. Since I have never even seen a soldering gun from close, I'd rather not...
[10:07] <waylandbill> sounds like a perfect candidate for zeroconf service.
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> On the other hand, I am just installing debian on my brand new shiny NSLU2, I could run a DHCP server there. But there really is no need for DHCP on a "network" with 3 and a half computers
[10:08] <sivaji> !grub
[10:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: I haven't looked into zeroconf yet, but I might...
[10:15] <venca> hello :o) I have some problem with ubuntu ... when i try to play some divx movie it is not played fluently ... is there sb who could give me some advice? Im using Ubuntu 7.04
[10:17] <dwidmann> venca: not played fluently? you mean it skips frames or something?
[10:18] <venca> dwidmann ... yes. Something like this :)
[10:18] <dwidmann> venca: umm, it's being played from a disk right? Perhaps DMA is not turned on for the drive. Try running "sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd?" and see what it says
[10:19] <sivaji> venca  have u installed codecs
[10:19] <dwidmann> venca: plan b: it's not being run from a disk, perhaps cpu usage is at max
[10:20] <sivaji> venca "http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html"
[10:21] <venca> dwidmann .. in fact it doesnt metter wheter i play it from disk. The problem is the same. I thought that the problem could be in codecs but at the beginning it was ok.
[10:23] <paolo>  another question: how can i save the new network configuration (done with ifconfig)?
[10:23] <venca> sivaji ive tried to install w32codecs but nothing was installed. Probably i already have all needed codecs.
[10:26] <sivaji> venca what is the extension of that vedia file .wmv , mpeg
[10:26] <venca> sivaji usually avi
[10:28] <sivaji> venca type avi and press tab in terminal u will see packages associated with that
[10:29] <venca> sivaji hmm... nothing happend
[10:29] <sivaji> venca  apt-cache search avi | grep -i avi
[10:30] <venca> sivaji there are 4 packages asociated with avi
[10:31] <sivaji> venca check have u installed that
[10:31] <arun> why wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?
[10:32] <sivaji> arun u r from
[10:33] <sivaji> india right
[10:33] <paolo> ok thnks for your support
[10:33] <sivaji> arun :
[10:34] <paolo>  and how can i set a gateway for eth0 ?
[10:36] <venca> sivaji it seems it is working :) Thanks very much ... Ive installed avifile-divx-plugin and avifile-xvid-plugin
[10:36] <sivaji> paolo  kmenu->system settings->network setting
[10:36] <sivaji> venca fine
[10:36] <paolo> sivaji: not with a gui
[10:37] <sivaji> sorry try #ubuntu
[10:38] <dandy_> can we install manually the updates of ubuntu
[10:38] <Gerrit> !acrobat
[10:38] <Gerrit> !plugin
[10:39] <Gerrit> hm.
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <sivaji_> dandy_ "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:39] <crdlb> !medibuntu | Gerrit
[10:39] <ubotu> Gerrit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:40] <Gerrit> Thanks
[10:41] <arun> why wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?
[10:56] <xlinux_> hello?
[10:59] <xlinux_> hello?
[11:00] <hw1> hoi
[11:00] <xlinux_> got a weird one
[11:00] <xlinux_> amarok crashes offline, and nothing I do changes it
[11:00] <sivaji_> !hi | xlinux_
[11:00] <ubotu> xlinux_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:02] <sivaji_> xlinux_  "sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok" then "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[11:02] <xlinux_> lemme try that one
[11:03] <xlinux_> lemme go offline a sec and try it
[11:03] <sivaji_> ok
[11:06] <xlinux_> holy crap!
[11:07] <xlinux_> im having the same problem with kaffeine, so I guess I should try the same
[11:07] <xlinux_> one other offline weirdo... mpeg thumbnails dont load with konqueror
[11:08] <xlinux_> thats weird, because I already tried renaming the config files for amarok
[11:08] <xlinux_> so that it would make a new folder..
[11:12] <Gerrit> Hello, when I run kdvi, I get a warning on the commandline: "QApplication::notify: Unexpected null receiver". How can I solve this?
[11:14] <xlinux_> what is kdvi?
[11:14] <Gerrit> I mean on the konsole.
[11:14] <Gerrit> IT is a dvi viewer.
[11:14] <Gerrit> For KDE.
[11:14] <xlinux_> dvi? whats that? pardon my ignorance to it
[11:14] <Gerrit> device independent file
[11:15] <xlinux_> cant help you sorry.. you try the forum?
[11:20] <sivaji_> Gerrit have u tried #ubuntu
[11:23] <Gerrit> Not yet.
[11:26] <xlinux_> nope.. still doesnt work....
[11:26] <xlinux_> amarok still crashes when im offline
[11:26] <Rami_> hi!
[11:27] <tmbg> windows is a greedy little whore. I installed it on its own disk, and it mucked around with mbr on another disk and overwrote lilo.
[11:27] <sivaji> xlinux_ run amarok from terminal
[11:27] <xlinux_> KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[11:27] <sivaji> xlinux_ paste here what error u get
[11:27] <xlinux_> thats when I start it
[11:27] <Rami_> tmbg, you're right
[11:27] <xlinux_> it doesnt give an error when it closes
[11:28] <xlinux_> and amarok itself is fine offline, but it crashes when I try to play a song
[11:28] <xlinux_> note this:
[11:28] <tmbg> I tried to use gag to boot my now hidden linux install... but it couldn't boot that partition.
[11:28] <sivaji> tmbg yes windows only its own job that is it  never loads other os
[11:28] <sivaji> tmbg yes windows  *minds * only its own job that is it  never loads other os
[11:28] <Rami_> format the partition with wndows instead
[11:28] <xlinux_> kaffeine wont play ANYTHING offline, and konqueror wont load any mpeg thumbnails offline...
[11:29] <xlinux_> as soon as im online, everything is resolved
[11:29] <tmbg> formatting the windows disk wouldn't accomplish anything
[11:29] <Rami_> :o
[11:31] <xlinux_> considering I get the crash when trying to play a song.. and the message in the terminal relates to play pause.. I would assume this was the problem
[11:31] <sivaji> tmbg u r system cant load linux now right
[11:31] <tmbg> sivaji, right
[11:32] <Rami_> I need to install shockwave for mozilla, how  to do?
[11:32] <sivaji>  tmbg  i will give u a link that contain boot file copy that to cd ,which allows u to boot linux and windows
[11:32] <[ifroog] > !shockwave
[11:32] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[11:32] <tmbg> sivaji, fire away
[11:33] <Rami_> ok
[11:33] <xlinux_> is there any way to check for possible missing dependencies or something? Ive had this problem for over a week.. im about to remove the whole OS and reinstall it
[11:34] <Rami_> but doesnt that make my computer open to viruses?
[11:34] <sivaji> tmbg "http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso" burn this image to a cd and boot from that
[11:34] <sivaji> tmbg second life to linux
[11:35] <tmbg> why is it so huge?
[11:35] <sivaji> xlinux_ have u opened amarok from terminal
[11:35] <xlinux_> yes, and as posted earlier:
[11:36] <sivaji> tmbg because it contail grub loader  qtparted live cd etc
[11:36] <xlinux_> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098cb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[11:36] <xlinux_> but it works fine with an internet connection
[11:36] <tmbg> I thought I'd be safe since I installed windows on its OWN disk. can't believe it messes around with mbr's on different disks. that's messed up
[11:38] <sivaji> tmbg u cant boot kubuntu then how u came here
[11:39] <tmbg> sivaji, huh?
[11:39] <tmbg> I'm in windows right now
[11:39] <tmbg> since the stupid windows mbr bootloader nonsense works
[11:40] <sivaji> tmbg tell which software u r using to chat here
[11:40] <angel> hi
[11:40] <sivaji> !hi | angel
[11:40] <ubotu> angel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:41] <tmbg> sivaji, why does it matter?
[11:41] <angel> i am testing konversation
[11:41] <angel> s:)
[11:41] <sivaji> ok
[11:41] <sivaji> tmbg u have konversation in windows ?
[11:42] <tmbg> nope
[11:42] <sivaji> tmbg then what make u to chat here
[11:43] <tmbg> to figure out wtf was going on w/ lilo/mbr/etc nonsense
[11:43] <sivaji> tmbg ho cant u understand what i am aking
[11:44] <tmbg> wtf is your problem?
[11:44] <tmbg> no, I can't understand.
[11:44] <tmbg> for one, it's barely in english
[11:45] <angel> anyone know how_to connect to jabber sever with kopete?
[11:45] <sivaji> u have konversaion in kubuntu right similarly what software u have in windows for chatting here?
[11:45] <tmbg> for another, you're asking all sorts of questions about how I do things that don't matter for this conversation
[11:45] <Jucato> angel: google talk?
[11:45] <angel> data:x client is required
[11:45] <tmbg> sivaji, there are tons of windows irc clients. I picked one I like
[11:45] <angel> nop: konversation
[11:46] <angel> can u connect to this chat with google talk? nice
[11:46] <Jucato> angel: in Kopete, yes
[11:47] <sivaji>    tmbg    ya i too installed one irc client but it is not like konverstaion so which one u have selected  now
[11:47] <tmbg> why does it matter?
[11:48] <sivaji> !ext2
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <sivaji> !ext
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <sivaji> !ext3
[11:51] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:53] <angel> JABBER IN KOPETE:msg error when i tried server services: "You need an x:data capable client to****"
[11:53] <angel> where **** is register, search, etc...
[11:54] <angel> does anyone know what kind of client is an x:data capable??
[11:55] <angel> er....
[11:55] <angel> sthx anyway
[11:56] <xlinux_> so no idea sivaji?
[11:57] <AFaith> hello my fellow mates from #kubuntu!
[11:57] <AFaith> have a question for you
[11:57] <sivaji> xlinux_ no idea
[11:57] <AFaith> kopete keeps it logs in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/YahooProtocol/name
[11:57] <AFaith> but it keeps them in xml format
[11:58] <AFaith> i wanna know if there is any log parser that can help me read those logs easily
[11:58] <xlinux_> i might seriously have to reinstall my OS.. daaammn that sucks
[11:59] <_4strO> AFaith: kopette himself ?
[11:59] <AFaith> _4strO: how ?
[12:00] <_4strO> in the edition menu
[12:00] <_4strO> see historic
[12:01] <_4strO> AFaith: it's about conversation's log ?
[12:01] <AFaith> yes, of course
[12:02] <sivaji> xlinux_ no wait
[12:02] <AFaith> i can find that button
[12:02] <AFaith> :(
[12:02] <Jucato> AFaith: right-click on the contact -> View History
[12:02] <xlinux_> what else can we try? Ive got a virtual OS and a ton of customizing done to this install
[12:03] <sivaji> xlinux_ install this "amarok  amarokcollectionscanner  amarok_libvisual amarokapp amarok_daapserver.rb amarok_proxy.rb"
[12:04] <sivaji> xlinux_ use aptitude
[12:04] <sivaji> xlinux_ are u there
[12:04] <xlinux_> sivaji: yeah
[12:05] <AFaith> sorry ...
[12:05] <xlinux_> let me try to install those libraries to make sure I have um all
[12:05] <AFaith> kopete crashed
[12:05] <mentoirde> !german
[12:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:05] <sivaji> AFaith press ctrl+esc ,kill kopete and restart
[12:06] <sivaji> xlinux_ is it alright now
[12:07] <xlinux_> its saying it cant find any of the packages you mentioned
[12:07] <AFaith> sivaji: i've restarted kopete :) now, i'm trying to see if it let see the logs
[12:07] <xlinux_> is there some special link to add to sources.list? I already have medibuntu added as a repo
[12:09] <sivaji> xlinux_ try this "  exaile amarok-engines  amarok-xine"
[12:09] <sivaji> install this
[12:09] <AFaith> big thanks!
[12:09] <AFaith> i've really helped me :P
[12:10] <xlinux_> hmmm didnt have some of those.. im gonna try offline after I restart X
[12:11] <xlinux_> E: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/a/amarok/amarok-engines_1.4.5-0ubuntu7+medibuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 
[12:11] <xlinux_> thats the only error
[12:11] <xlinux_> try it anyway?
[12:12] <pag> xlinux_, wrong adress. I'll paste you the right one in a bit
[12:12] <pag> !paste
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <xlinux_> gonna try it.. post it when im back in a sec
[12:13] <pag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/
[12:14] <xlinux_> nope... didnt work
[12:14] <pag> xlinux_, here's the right adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/
[12:15] <thyko> is it possible to upgrade my kubuntu install from 6.06 to 7.04?
[12:15] <sivaji> ya
[12:15] <_4strO> !upgrade
[12:15] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:16] <sivaji> thyko edit u r sources.list
[12:17] <sivaji> thyko u cant directly upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04
[12:17] <sivaji> first upgrade to 6.10
[12:19] <thyko> thanks yall, giving that a try ....
[12:22] <Assid> why cant you upgrade form 6.06 straight to 7.04 ?
[12:24] <bryan_> Hey everyone, Hope its cool to ask: I have Ubuntu installed on Macbook, & need OSX back asap, but, comp wont boot from install DVD or CD??
[12:24] <alex> hallo
[12:24] <alex> knnte mir einer helfen ?
[12:25] <alex> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:25] <alex> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:25] <pag> !de | alex
[12:25] <ubotu> alex: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:25] <alex> thx
[12:28] <Assid> bryan_: wouldnt you be better off calling macintosh?
[12:28] <Assid> or apple for that matter
[12:28] <Assid> there should be a guide to reinstall it i'd think
[12:31] <bryan_> Assid> True, I was just hoping to avoid the phone support, thought I might get lucky tapping in here
[12:32] <Assid> have you tried googling?
[12:32] <bryan_> its an odd problem, Apple install disc wont boot, and when inserted in Ubuntu, I get a "cannot mount volume" error, like Linux isnt recognizing the drive or something
[12:32] <bryan_> yeah, been googling my ass off haha, havent found anything useful
[12:32] <Assid> hrmm
[12:33] <Assid> is there an option to set the boot priority ?
[12:33] <Assid> like dvdrom, hard drive
[12:33] <bryan_> in Ubuntu you mean?
[12:33] <bryan_> if so, Im not sure
[12:38] <Gerrit> !xmodmap
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Gerrit> Where can I find the post-login file to put xmodmap commands that I want to be carried out everytime I login via kdm?
[12:44] <bjwebb> ctrl + esc does not show anything
[12:44] <bjwebb> http://two.xthost.info/linux/snapshot1.png
[12:44] <bjwebb> any pointers?
[12:55] <PsySine> how can I stop kde from overriding my x-configuration?
[12:58] <CM_Jamie> Can one do a last seen command on this channel?
[12:59] <Assid> man.. installing kubuntu on my lappy is heating it up.. like crazy
[12:59] <Assid> almost like a steam iron
[01:00] <Assid> err. how come the fonts look a little odd ?
[01:00] <Assid> i got the desktop disc (live cd)
[01:01] <Assid> the fonts look a litle "scratched"
[01:02] <Assid> atleast some of the fonts do
[01:10] <hasan2> hi all
[01:11] <hasan2> there is problem in my system sound card
[01:11] <hasan2> i have installed kubuntu o.s
[01:11] <hasan2> anybody can help with this
[01:13] <hasan2> ello
[01:17] <Assid> err whats the root password?
[01:17] <Assid> the default root pass
[01:17] <PsySine> Assid: there is none
[01:17] <PsySine> Assid: use sudo and sudo -s
[01:18] <PsySine> and supply the users passwd
[01:21] <Assid> the fonts look kinda odd
[01:22] <Assid> almost like its not installed..
[01:22] <vista> how do i save chat conversations on kopote ?
[01:23] <vista> how do i save chat logs on kopete ?
[01:23] <vista> anyone here?
[01:24] <vista> how do i disable single click
[01:24] <vista> how do i save chat logs on kopete ?
[01:25] <MaTiAz> vista: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double click to open files and folders"
[01:25] <MaTiAz> That's how you disable single click
[01:25] <vista> ya thanks
[01:25] <MaTiAz> np
[01:25] <vista> and how do i save chat logs for kopete
[01:25] <MaTiAz> Dunno about that
[01:25] <vista> k
[01:26] <Assid> can someone help me with the fonts.../
[01:26] <Assid> some of the fonts look very bad
[01:26] <vista> i keep on deleting a file but this file still keeps poping up on my desktop is this a VIRUS ?
[01:26] <vista> LINUX VIRUS ?
[01:27] <pawitp> What file?
[01:27] <vista> a folder
[01:27] <pawitp> is it a special one?
[01:27] <vista> and empty folder
[01:27] <vista> a folder that has another empty folder
[01:28] <vista> subfolder is called examples
[01:28] <vista> main folder called LIQUID-BLACK
[01:28] <vista> its on my desktop
[01:28] <pawitp> try deleting the subfolder
[01:28] <vista> let me try
[01:28] <vista> its deleted !
[01:29] <vista> but not sure whether it will come up again :s
[01:29] <vista> pawitp: how do i save chat logs on kopete?
[01:29] <vista> pawitp: omg ! that folder came back
[01:30] <pawitp> ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
[01:30] <vista> is it a VIRUS ?
[01:30] <pawitp> the logs are usually in there
[01:30] <pawitp> vista: Probably not
[01:30] <vista> then ?
[01:30] <pawitp> Did you try using the terminal?
[01:30] <vista> nope
[01:31] <vista> how do i do that
[01:31] <pawitp> open konsole
[01:31] <vista> then
[01:31] <pawitp> type "cd Desktop"
[01:31] <pawitp> and then "rm -rf [name of folder] "
[01:32] <Assid> okay the fonts are looking horrible.. what do i do
[01:32] <vista> thanks its gone but dont know for how long
[01:33] <Assid> i tried enabling anti aliasing
[01:33] <Assid> dont think it helped
[01:33] <vista> pawitp: i only found konversation chat logs not kopete chat logs
[01:33] <pawitp> whoop
[01:34] <pawitp> I thought you said konversation
[01:34] <vista> nope its kopete
[01:34] <vista> pawitp: that folder came back ? ?
[01:34] <vista> should i panic
[01:35] <pawitp> Never had something like folders coming back
[01:35] <pawitp> is a program accessing it?
[01:35] <pawitp> or a program is trying to write to it?
[01:35] <pawitp> like a torrent?
[01:35] <vista> well the folder is empty
[01:35] <vista> im not sure
[01:35] <pawitp> Basically, how did you create that folder?
[01:36] <vista> i found it from kde-look.org
[01:36] <vista> its suppose to be a kbfx theme
[01:36] <vista> i thinks now its gone forever
[01:37] <vista> change a few permission matters
[01:37] <vista> anyways tell me where to get kopete chat logs ?
[01:38] <vista> OMG OMG OMG
[01:38] <vista> folder came back
[01:38] <pawitp> Try rebooting maybe
[01:38] <vista> okay
[01:38] <a9913> vista, .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/
[01:38] <vista> pawitp: kopete chat logs ?
[01:38] <pawitp> see a9913
[01:39] <tripp> anyone can give me an IRC for italian kubuntu channel?
[01:39] <vista> a9912: there are no folder names logs
[01:39] <pawitp> !it
[01:39] <vista> a9912: how do i enable chat logs from kopete ?
[01:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:40] <pawitp> !it | tripp
[01:40] <ubotu> tripp: please see above
[01:40] <tripp> !it
[01:40] <a9913> vista, THREE! 991_3_
[01:40] <vista> a9912: whats that?
[01:40] <vista> !bn
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <vista> FOLDER CAME BACK
[01:41] <vista> a9912: how di enable chat logs for kopete
[01:41] <pawitp> vista: Try seeking help from someone else
[01:41] <vista> a9913: how di enable chat logs for kopete
[01:41] <a9913> i get a feeling you're doing that on purpose...
[01:42] <vista> im doing what on purpose?
[01:42] <a9913> vista, enable the history plugin
[01:42] <vista> wait
[01:42] <vista> let me try
[01:43] <vista> a9913: its already enabled
[01:43] <llutz> Hi
[01:43] <a9913> vista, check in .kde/share/apps/kopete
[01:44] <vista> a9913: thanks
[01:44] <vista> think i have it done
[01:45] <Ayabara> I have a problem with dual monitors in kubuntu. Anyone know how to control which monitor has focus? It doesn't follow the mouse pointer on my system.
[01:45] <a9913> vista, where was it?
[01:45] <vista> a9913: where is what ?
[01:45] <a9913> vista, if it wasn't in .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/ , where was it?
[01:46] <vista> a9913: that folder wasnt there in the first place but later came up when i eneabled chat log
[01:46] <a9913> oh
[01:46] <vista> a9913: why cant ppl on windows live see my kopete emoticons ?
[01:47] <a9913> vista, because emoticons are sent as texts
[01:47] <vista> a9913: so how do i get it to them ?
[01:47] <a9913> vista, if i send :), the client converts it into an image
[01:47] <a9913> vista, you cant.
[01:47] <a9913> vista, try using only the ones defined by windows live
[01:48] <vista> a9913: oh :(
[01:48] <fusiogen> !fr
[01:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:48] <fusiogen> allez
[01:48] <fusiogen> fuck dows/vista :)
[01:48] <PriceChild> !ohmy | fusiogen
[01:48] <ubotu> fusiogen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:48] <vista> but i found a nice pack of emoticons but they are now useless:(
[01:49] <vista> is there a bangladeshi kubuntu channel
[01:49] <a9913> vista, you can create one if it aint
[01:49] <a9913> i think
[01:49] <vista> nah if its not there then no use creating it
[01:50] <vista> but i just cant delete this folder
[01:50] <vista> it just keeps poping up
[01:50] <vista> i suspect its a virus ;)
[01:50] <gMs> huh?
[01:50] <vista> just cant get rid of this folder
[01:51] <[n1ce] MiLk> btw hi
[01:51] <vista> hi
[01:51] <a9913> vista, try checking if anything is using the folder
[01:51] <a9913> if so, what
[01:51] <[n1ce] MiLk> does anyone use gdesklets and beryl?
[01:52] <vista> a9913: how do i check that
[01:52] <a9913> vista, there's a program which checks what pids are using a file
[01:52] <a9913> forgot it's name
[01:52] <Cyrano> hi guys
[01:52] <Assid> can someone help me please
[01:52] <[n1ce] MiLk> ah sry its a kubuntu channel
[01:52] <[n1ce] MiLk> sry
[01:52] <Assid> my fonts are looking pretty bad
[01:52] <Cyrano> i ve got an unrelated question
[01:53] <Cyrano> im not a native speaker of english
[01:53] <vista> i c
[01:53] <Cyrano> what does "what goes around comes around" mean ?
[01:53] <vista> im also not a native english speaker
[01:53] <epimeth> Cyrano: it means that whatever you do to someone will happen to you
[01:54] <Cyrano> ok thx
[01:54] <vista> Cyrano : where you from ?
[01:55] <Cyrano> Turkey
[01:55] <vista> okay
[01:55] <Cyrano> im reading a broadband communication handbook right now
[01:55] <Cyrano> it's written in it
[01:55] <vista> any one help me get rid of this screenshot option?
[01:56] <vista> whenever i press print screen button screenshot pops up
[01:56] <vista> how do i get rid of it
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> vista: that itsmost definately a feature...but it should be under system settings-> keybpard and mouse-> keyboard shortcuts
[01:57] <vista> thanks let me try
[01:59] <Assid> also
[01:59] <Assid> i trie to change the screen refresh rate.. from 60 .. but everytme i set the administrator mode
[01:59] <Assid> its giving me an eror for su
[02:00] <jeroen__> Hi
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:01] <jeroen__> I've got a problem here
[02:01] <jeroen__> I just did a tar for sauerbraten
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: you can get the .deb at www.getdeb.com
[02:01] <hasan2> ello
[02:01] <jeroen__> I tryed to open it but it didn't started, i just had to log in again on my kubutu
[02:02] <hasan2> anybody can help on installing driver for sound card on kubuntu
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: what sound card do you have?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: install the .deb from www.getdeb.net
[02:04] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: Ok I'll try that
[02:06] <hasan2> not sure how to check
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Sauerbraten
[02:06] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card type ?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: so your sound is just not working? did you raise all volumes in Kmix and unmute all channels?
[02:07] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I used that one.
[02:07] <hasan2> yes
[02:07] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I just have a black screen and then my computer logs in again
[02:07] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : even i got to test sound and not sound there
[02:07] <administrador> Hi everyone!
[02:07] <Assid> err
[02:08] <administrador> using linux for the first time :)
[02:08] <Assid> is there anty way i can push the refresh rates? 60hz is very very bad
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: I had that problem too... its not the most stabe thing on planet earth
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> administrador: cool!
[02:08] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : when i play any song, its playing but no sound comming
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: did you mess around with the volumes in kmix?
[02:09] <administrador> spent a hole morning trying to network a Kubuntu PC and a Mac with OS X
[02:09] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : yes
[02:09] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: any way to fix it?
[02:09] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card driver is installed properly or not
[02:09] <administrador> anyone can help? I've searched the forums but nothing seems to help me
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> administrador: sure, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: run " sudo lshw | grep sound" and pastebin the output
[02:10] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ok
[02:11] <administrador> I have a PC with a one disk. one partition for system other for "works"
[02:11] <administrador>  I want to share "works" with all my mac's running OS X
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok, via NFS shares?
[02:12] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : no output
[02:12] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I downloaded it again, tar't it again still the same problem
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> I'm not exctly familiar with mac's... do they have a ssh client?
[02:12] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : lshw | grep sound  no out put
[02:13] <administrador> I've tried samba shares
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: ok, run "sudo lshw | grep audio"
[02:13] <administrador> the mac's can see the shares but than it gives me an error
[02:13] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; ok
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> administrador: samba is intended for windows to linux, macs have it easier I think.
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> administrador: do macs have ssh clients?
[02:13] <hasan2> description: Multimedia audio controller
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> can you do ssh?
[02:14] <hasan2>  capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
[02:14] <administrador> can we continue later? My boss call me I've got to go
[02:14] <administrador> back in a hour
[02:14] <administrador> hope you'll be arround
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> administrador: I woun't be around later... but someone else will be
[02:15] <hasan2> nosrednaekim :
[02:15] <hasan2>   description: Multimedia audio controller
[02:15] <hasan2>                 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: just run lshw and look through the output for your audio device.
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: sorry........ and when you find it, pastebin the section.
[02:16] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : i got quite big output
[02:16] <hasan2> where to paste it ?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | hasan2
[02:17] <ubotu> hasan2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:19] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26256/
[02:19] <jeroen__> my problem is not solved :(
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: your driver is installed, sound should be working. Make sure in sound settings the driver is set to alsa
[02:22] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to do this ?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: system settings-> sounds system->Hardware-> select audio device =alsa
[02:23] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : where i can see that the driver is installed. just to learn it
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: in lshw, there was a section for your sound card, in that section it said "driver=Intel"
[02:25] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : thanks , in my sound system settings , select the audio device  "no als found there" , midi device "Alsa device"
[02:26] <jeroen__> anybody from Belgium here?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: sorry..... ALSA is short for the "advanced linux sound architecture"
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> which is on that list
[02:27] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : it seems good , let me try to listen any music
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: did the test work?
[02:28] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : let me try it =>test
[02:28] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : not working
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> I mean under sound system->general->test sound
[02:29] <hasan2> do i need to put my cable in the other port
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: try putting your cable in every port and see what happens. front panel audio may not work.
[02:30] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ya its in front panel audio , let me put it on back
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> put it in the green port.
[02:31] <romudog> hiya
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hey.
[02:31] <romudog> lol nosrednaekim
[02:31] <romudog> What part of the world you in?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> NJ, USA
[02:31] <romudog> lol Dont you work?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> i'm 17, High school is out.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:31] <romudog> nosrednaekim cool
[02:32] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : even sound on back ports not working
[02:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim Why no job yet? You got a car/license yet?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: great...
[02:32] <romudog> hasan2 you got an audio card or built in sound?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> romudog: don't want one.. ;)
[02:32] <benedek> I just joined this channel so I don't know if you have tried, but did you put all the sliders in the mixer to the top?
[02:32] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : its built in card
[02:33] <romudog> hasan2: Built in may be a problem maybe its not finding the IRQ or somethin..
[02:33] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any other way to handle it
[02:33] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; or configure it out
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: intel is ussually very standard, which leads me to belive that some setting in the mixer is wrong.
[02:35] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I agree i usually find that maybe i have wrong audio driver...ALSA/OSS driver installed or my mixers are off
[02:35] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : u mean kmixer
[02:35] <Vaxter> hi to all! :)
[02:36] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check mixer settings
[02:36] <romudog> Vaxter: Hello, Good morning.
[02:36] <Vaxter> 4 u 2 :)
[02:36] <Vaxter> ppl, need some help
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: lets so it the command line way... "alsamixer"
[02:36] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Dont you wish you could be paid for helping people?
[02:36] <jeroen__> Hi
[02:36] <romudog> !ask
[02:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:36] <Vaxter> i have just instaled kubuntu
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah I kinda do.
[02:36] <Vaxter> and i have started to install apps
[02:36] <jeroen__> what's the lib. I need to install to play mp3 on amarok?
[02:36] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I love helpin.
[02:36] <Vaxter> but serbian update mirror is not working
[02:37] <romudog> Change mirrors
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: "libxine-extracodecs"
[02:37] <Vaxter> is there any way to change mirror that i am using
[02:37] <jeroen__> thanks ^^
[02:37] <romudog> yes
[02:37] <romudog> Vaxter: yes
[02:37] <Vaxter> ahow
[02:37] <hasan2> nosrednaekim  : i got the volumes of alsamixer
[02:37] <romudog> nosrednaekim you got the repositories handy? Cause i dont lol
[02:37] <Vaxter> i am googling, but i can't find it
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> Vaxter: if you are on fiesty, there is a built-in mirror chooser
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: all at the top and unmuted?
[02:38] <Vaxter> i am
[02:38] <romudog> Vaxter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:39] <Vaxter> ok, thanks
[02:39] <Vaxter> i am reading it now :)
[02:39] <romudog> Nosrednaekim: Audio jack could be in wrong plug...Just an idea..done that sooo many times i have a special backports its 7.2 and only one will work with sound...
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> Vaxter: adeptmanager->adept->manage repositories-> download from
[02:39] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ok , how to do unmuted, all are at top now
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> romudog: hmm true... start switching!
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: they are probabaly all unmuted (if they were in mix)
[02:40] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; all done
[02:41] <hasan2> how to quite and save
[02:41] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Too bad we cant just remote assist invite everyone to fix their probs..lol
[02:41] <hasan2> sorry
[02:41] <hasan2> escape to quite for alsamixer
[02:41] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any thing to do to restart alsamixer ?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> romudog: too slow if internet for that, but yeah, that would be awesome
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: restart?
[02:41] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Dialup?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> you mean restart alsa?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah.
[02:42] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X Server
[02:42] <hasan2> nosrednaekim :yes how ?
[02:42] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : restart the pc ?
[02:43] <romudog> hasan2: You dont have to ever restart your PC in linux imo
[02:43] <imagine> romudog: ever...
[02:43] <imagine> bit too much :)
[02:43] <romudog> imagine: ??
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: no need to restart for changing mixer values
[02:43] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to test the sound..still test sound setting null
[02:43] <imagine> sometimes you need to reboot :P
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: tried all the ports in the back?
[02:44] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : no sound yet from test sound
[02:44] <romudog> nosrednaekim: isnt there a console based one with absoloute values? I used it once to apply a harder mic boost..
[02:44] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : yes tried all ports already
[02:45] <romudog> imagine: When? Ive never had to boot i just restart X
[02:45] <imagine> romudog: I already had X hangin so much that I needed to reboot. whenever you make a kernel update
[02:45] <imagine> romudog: it's very rare tho
[02:45] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any other luck for sound
[02:45] <Stevethepirate> Hi ppl. Anyone know of a program that acts as a nice frontend to www.cdcovers.cc ?
[02:46] <romudog> imagine: Naw i never boot you only need to boot for kernel when u update for that kernel only software lol otherwise its when i boot next..lmfao
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: I have no idea, google your chipset and linux
[02:46] <Stevethepirate> or one that downloads hi-res dvd covers from www.cdcovers.cc ?
[02:46] <imagine> :P
[02:46] <romudog> stevethepirate: Google it man or rep search it
[02:47] <umnik> i need some help with printer sharing
[02:47] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : hadeadphon is 00 in alsamixer
[02:47] <Stevethepirate> rom: done both..
[02:47] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : is that make any difference
[02:47] <umnik> i had it working, but recently had to change my local ip from 192.168.0.* to 192.168.1.*
[02:47] <romudog> stevethepirate: lol then maybe there isnt one, You can try to make one though lol..
[02:47] <Stevethepirate> romudog: done both.. was hoping someone here might have some code floating around...
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: that means its on, you just don't want it MM
[02:48] <umnik> i changed the ip in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[02:48] <romudog> Stevethepirate: Check out sf.net run a search there
[02:48] <umnik> what else should i do?
[02:48] <romudog> umnik:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_printer_sharing_with_CUPS
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> umnik: maybe re-set of the whole arrangement from scratch if it isn't working right now.
[02:49] <umnik> nosrednaekim: ok, will try that
[02:49] <Stevethepirate> romudog: opening firefox could have deadly affects.. ^_^
[02:49] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : MM is mute ? right
[02:49] <romudog> stevethepirate: Huh?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: yeah
[02:49] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : when i change it to MM , there is sound
[02:49] <umnik> nosrednaekim: I just wanted to do it with as little hassle as possible
[02:49] <romudog> Stevethepirate: Firefox is my savior :D
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: what?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> you get sound?
 I'm back, tho one with problems with mac's and Linux
[02:50] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ya when chang headphone to MM got continuous noise kind of sound
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> administrador: ah... lucky you,i'm still around
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: oh. test still dint work?
[02:50] <administrador> you asked about ssh clients...
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> administrador: yeah, can MAC do ssh?
[02:51] <Stevethepirate> romudog: if i open firefox, www.digg.com, facebook and gmail will open..
[02:51] <administrador> whats that? I dont think so...
[02:51] <romudog> nosrednaekim: sure it can lol
[02:51] <Vaxter> just to say that everything is working now!
[02:51] <Vaxter> thanks!
[02:51] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : no test still didnt work
[02:51] <Vaxter> :)
[02:51] <Stevethepirate> will lead to long surfing time.
[02:51] <administrador> I think via "terminal"
[02:51] <romudog> stevethepirate: Okay? Is that a question?? lol
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> administrador: yeah I don't know how macs do networking and such.
[02:52] <Stevethepirate> no.. statement
[02:52] <romudog> Administrador: You can install x11 and run ssh via it
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> administrador: I think you can do it via NFS shares
[02:53] <romudog> Nosrednaekim: Would you consider this a busy day? lol
[02:53] <administrador> I'm not a IT guy... dont know much of those thins. I recognize the names X11, NFS and so on but dont know much about
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> romudog: this?NO WAY!
[02:53] <administrador> anyoane arround with Mac OS X experience?
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> romudog: wait till about 6 oclock on saturday
[02:54] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Lmfao is it normal for everyone to ask you for help?
[02:54] <Cyrano> hi guys
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> me?no.. I just offer to help
[02:54] <Cyrano> i ve got a problem with amarok
[02:54] <Stevethepirate> romudog: i think i'm forced to open ff.. gotta install samba..
[02:54] <romudog> nosrednaekim: lol
[02:54] <Cyrano> how can i handle soundproblems in kubuntu?
[02:54] <Cyrano> i can hear the system sounds b
[02:54] <Cyrano> but i cant play mp3 withs amarok though mp3 codecs were installed
[02:54] <Stevethepirate> is alsa not muted?
[02:55] <Cyrano> yesterday i ve installed some programs not related with sound
[02:55] <Cyrano> how can i check it?
[02:55] <Cyrano> whether its muted or not?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: does sound show up in the equilizer thing? like do the bars move up and down?
[02:55] <Cyrano> yep
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> in amarok
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: your volume all the way up in amarok?
[02:55] <Cyrano> yep
[02:56] <Cyrano> yep
[02:56] <Cyrano> 100 percent
[02:56] <Cyrano> bars moves up and down
[02:56] <Cyrano> mp3 plays
[02:56] <Cyrano> but without sound
[02:56] <Cyrano> ive got 2 sound cards
[02:57] <Cyrano> one nvidia on board and the second one is soundblaster live
[02:57] <Cyrano> they r listed with asoundconf list
[02:57] <Stevethepirate> hmm.. which one is the sound plugged in?
[02:57] <Cyrano> CK8S and Live
[02:57] <Stevethepirate> i assum SB live?
[02:57] <Cyrano> yep
[02:57] <Cyrano> SB Live
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> ok. go to settings->configure amarok->engine.make sure the output plugin is alsa
[02:58] <Daisuke-Ido> is the 2.6.20-16.29 kernel revision still giving people problems?
[02:58] <Stevethepirate> is it plugged into amp / self-powered speakers / ?
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> and the engine is xine
[02:58] <Cyrano> i use kubuntu
[02:58] <Cyrano> the xine engine cant be initialisad
[02:59] <Stevethepirate> lol
[02:59] <Stevethepirate> thats ur problem
[02:59] <Cyrano> how cna i do that?
[02:59] <Stevethepirate> do a sudo apt-get install xine
[02:59] <Stevethepirate> perhaps.
[02:59] <Stevethepirate> [if its not installed] 
[02:59] <Cyrano> yesterday i was playing without any kind of problem
[03:00] <Cyrano> hasan@TrueFX:~$ sudo apt-get install xine
[03:00] <Cyrano> Password:
[03:00] <Cyrano> Reading package lists... Done
[03:00] <Cyrano> Building dependency tree
[03:00] <Cyrano> Reading state information... Done
[03:00] <Cyrano> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:00] <Cyrano> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:00] <Cyrano> is only available from another source
[03:00] <Cyrano> E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[03:00] <Cyrano> hasan@TrueFX:~$
[03:00] <Cyrano> so any suggestion?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: package name is libxine1
[03:02] <Cyrano> it's installed
[03:02] <Cyrano> and already newest version
[03:02] <Cyrano> sound output plugin was autodetect
[03:02] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : thanks for your time. still sound got some problem..will check it out later
[03:03] <Cyrano> i ve changed it to oss
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: use alsa
[03:03] <mentioejrew> !german
[03:03] <Cyrano> when i chose alsa it warns me saying "xine can't initialise any sound driver
[03:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:03] <Cyrano> !turkish
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Cyrano> when i give the command apt-get install alsa alsa-base is the newest version
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: hence... your problem.
[03:05] <Cyrano> hwere can i check which soundcard is used right now?
[03:05] <administrador> anyone with experience with mac's and linux networking? PLEASE HELP I'm going crazy
[03:05] <Cyrano> what's the command
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: go into system settings->sound system-> hardware-> and change the device type to Advanced linux sounds architechture
[03:07] <emh5945> can somebody help me
[03:07] <Cyrano> should i chose options beneath ?
[03:07] <Cyrano> like full dupleux use custom sampling override device loc
[03:07] <Cyrano> etc.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Cyrano: no... thats ok
[03:07] <Jucato> !somebody | emh5945
[03:07] <ubotu> emh5945: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:08] <emh5945> i need to install more screen resolutions
[03:08] <emh5945> but i dont know how to
[03:08] <romudog> Wefi for WiFi xD
[03:09] <administrador> I want to share a volume on my Kubuntu PC with may Mac's. I want to use the PC as a File server for the macs
[03:09] <Cyrano> stil same thing
[03:09] <Cyrano> without sound
[03:09] <emh5945> i need to install more screen resolutions but i dont know how to can someone help
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> emh5945: what type of video card
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> Bye all! take care of all the poor newbs!
[03:10] <MaTiAz> Bye nosrednaekim
[03:11] <romudog> lol /wave nosrednaekim
[03:11] <Daisuke-Ido> if by "take care of" he means "deride and dehumanize mercilessly"
[03:11] <romudog> lmfao
[03:11] <MaTiAz> haha
[03:11] <emh5945> how do i find out what video card haha
[03:11] <lexxus> emh5945: xorg.conf is a bit difficult... look for manufacture drivers
[03:11] <romudog> Whats everyones favorite Open Source App + Blog/social bookmarking site?
[03:12] <lexxus> emh5945: lspci
[03:12] <romudog> xmh5945: Look at Kinfocenter
[03:13] <emh5945> i have an ATI Radeon X1600
[03:13] <romudog> Whats everyones favorite Open Source App + Blog/social bookmarking site?
[03:14] <blmm> Hello. How do I get out of "Manual configuration" mode in KNetworkManager?
[03:15] <emh5945> i need to install more screen resolutions i have an ATI Radeon X1600
[03:16] <romudog> emh5945: You can do that easily via System Settings
[03:17] <emh5945> how though i cant figure it out
[03:17] <emh5945> i only installed one during installation
[03:17] <romudog> Okay
[03:17] <romudog> Open up System Settings
[03:17] <romudog> Tell me when youve done that
[03:17] <Daisuke-Ido> this i have to see.
[03:17] <emh5945> i did it
[03:18] <romudog> Okay now go to "Monitor & Display"
[03:18] <emh5945> ok done
[03:18] <romudog> First off do you know anything about your Video card? Max rez supported? Top Hz?
[03:19] <emh5945> max rez is 1680 X 1050
[03:19] <emh5945> i'm not sure about Hz
[03:19] <romudog> Okay
[03:19] <romudog> Click "Administrator Mode"
[03:19] <emh5945> ok
[03:19] <romudog> Keep in mind if your wrong...You get to reinstall your OS or have someone help you at home..
[03:20] <romudog> Just FYI..
[03:20] <emh5945> ok
[03:20] <romudog> Type in your password...blah blah..then go to Hardware
[03:20] <emh5945> k
[03:20] <Cyrano> yep
[03:20] <romudog> See where it says "Monitor"?
[03:20] <Cyrano> i still have a sound problem with amarok
[03:20] <emh5945> yeah
[03:20] <romudog> Hit configure
[03:20] <Cyrano> though i can  play mp3 with gxine i cant hear a sound with amarok
[03:20] <emh5945> ok
[03:21] <Cyrano> what can bee the possible reasons?
[03:21] <romudog> Whats the max rez of your monitor emh5945?
[03:21] <Daisuke-Ido> Cyrano: installed amarok-xine?
[03:21] <Cyrano> yep
[03:21] <emh5945> 1650 X 1050
[03:21] <Cyrano> reinstallled amarok
[03:21] <Daisuke-Ido> amarok-engines?
[03:21] <emh5945> but that already installed i wanna install a lower one
[03:21] <Daisuke-Ido> killed artsd?
[03:21] <romudog> emh5945 You want to LOWER your rez?
[03:22] <Cyrano> amarok-xine is installed
[03:22] <Cyrano> i try to install amarok-engines
[03:22] <Cyrano> yesterday everthing was ifne
[03:22] <emh5945> yeah i'm running in a virtual machine in mac and i need to scroll to see the whole thing it doesnt have full screen
[03:22] <Cyrano> still i can here the sound
[03:22] <Cyrano> with toher applications and system its fine
[03:22] <romudog> emh5945 Okay then...thats easier just go to Size Orientation and pos tab
[03:22] <romudog> and slide the slider to your left
[03:23] <romudog> until you get one you like
[03:23] <Cyrano> i ve even uninstalled and installed amarok
[03:23] <Cyrano> now ive installed amarok-xine and amarok-engines
[03:23] <romudog> Cyrano u got mp3 codecs installed?
[03:23] <emh5945> but there is only two options
[03:23] <Daisuke-Ido> killall amarokapp?
[03:23] <emh5945> one is really small and one is too big
[03:23] <Cyrano> i donno
[03:23] <emh5945> there the only rezes i installed during installation
[03:23] <Cyrano> yep i ve installed
[03:23] <romudog> emh5945 Your running Kubuntu off virtual machine right?
[03:23] <emh5945> yeah
[03:23] <Cyrano> coz i was playing mp3 files
[03:24] <Cyrano> how can i reinstall them
[03:24] <Daisuke-Ido> emh5945: in a console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:24] <Cyrano> ?
[03:24] <emh5945> ok
[03:24] <Cyrano> what is the package name?
[03:24] <Daisuke-Ido> if you were playing mp3s, it's installed.
[03:24] <jeroen__> romudog: can u help me? I try to install sauerbauten but I won't work. I extracted it, I typed: cd sauerbraten, then ./ sauerbraten butI get a black screen and the my pc logs in again instead of starting the game
[03:24] <Cyrano> yep i was playing mp3 files
[03:24] <Daisuke-Ido> you've done the killall?
[03:25] <romudog> emh5945 Your kind of in a pinch then because you cant always do that with virtual machine...because your working partially off software drivers and you'll have to enter the values via a command i think but go to admin mode and use your configure in monitor
[03:25] <Cyrano> but i ve uninstalled amarok and reinstalled a few minutes ago
[03:25] <Cyrano> so
[03:25] <Cyrano> ?
[03:25] <Cyrano> may it be uninstalled also?
[03:25] <Daisuke-Ido> that won't change the codecs
[03:25] <romudog> jeroen__: Sure can
[03:25] <Cyrano> i mean mp3 codecs?
[03:25] <Cyrano> ok
[03:25] <romudog> jeroen__: You have the 3d Accel drivers installed?
[03:25] <Cyrano> so what else
[03:25] <Cyrano> i ve lost my favorite playe r
[03:25] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: opengl. you need proprietary drivers
[03:25] <Cyrano> i cant use it and i dont want to use xmms
[03:25] <Cyrano> it sux
[03:25] <Daisuke-Ido> Cyrano: again, have you done a killall amarokapp?
[03:26] <Cyrano> after tasting amarok it would be torture
[03:26] <emh5945> well nothing is emulated, i'm on an intel mac
[03:26] <Cyrano> yep
[03:26] <Cyrano> now ive done it and restarted
[03:26] <Cyrano> no sound
[03:26] <Cyrano> at all
[03:27] <Cyrano> and i can play mp3s with gxine
[03:27] <romudog> emh5945 Your saying two things here, First off you need to understand that if your running a virtual machine its emulating....not software but hardware...there are some aspects that you need to understand so im going to reffer you to ubuntuforums.com because i dont think i can help you...
[03:28] <Cyrano> i can play them with kaffeine also
[03:28] <Cyrano> right nw i have sound
[03:28] <Cyrano> but only amarok
[03:29] <Daisuke-Ido> Cyrano: in amarok, what sound system and what output plugin is it using?
[03:29] <Cyrano> xine sound system
[03:29] <Cyrano> autodetect output plugin
[03:29] <Daisuke-Ido> try some other options for the output plugin
[03:29] <Daisuke-Ido> oss and also
[03:30] <Daisuke-Ido> alsa*
[03:30] <emh5945> alright thanks everyone
[03:31] <emh5945> i did that and i got the screen rez i wanted
[03:31] <Daisuke-Ido> emh5945: what finally worked?
[03:31] <emh5945> yeah
[03:31] <emh5945> what u said
[03:31] <emh5945> the command
[03:31] <Daisuke-Ido> k
[03:31] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo...lol
[03:31] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo: You find this funny like i do?
[03:32] <Daisuke-Ido> find what funny?
[03:32] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo nothin just listenin to this
[03:33] <jeroen__> Daisuke-Ido: where can I get that?
[03:33] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: what video card do you have?
[03:34] <jeroen__> Geforce MX 400
[03:34] <romudog> Is that an old card?
[03:34] <jeroen__> pretty
[03:34] <romudog> 4+ yrs?
[03:34] <jeroen__> I think, yes
[03:34] <jeroen__> but I'm not sure
[03:34] <romudog> You may have a hard time playing many 3d games at any decent quality
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> the mx 400 is a gf2
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> it's not the best card for 3d gaming, but it's servicable
[03:35] <jeroen__> when Windows was on the this pc I could play counterstrike source
[03:35] <romudog> whoa
[03:35] <romudog> cool
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:35] <umnik> still no luck with my printer - it works locally, but not from a remote comp
[03:35] <jeroen__> thanks
[03:35] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: that's not everything, but it's a start :D
[03:36] <romudog> My card was a ripoff and to find out that Nvidia and ATI are price fixing :|
[03:36] <Danker> hi
[03:36] <romudog> Danker: Hi
[03:37] <Daisuke-Ido> 7600gs, perfect for what little gaming i do.  i can run UT2k4 at max settings with an excellent framerate, so i can't complain :D
[03:37] <Danker> Could someone offer a good download manager that could deal with FTP directories and pause/resume downloads?
[03:37] <daquino> why is this thing telling me im not authorized to run a x session ?
[03:37] <jeroen__> Daisuke-Ido: So now it should work?
[03:37] <Jucato> Danker: try kget?
[03:37] <jeroen__> I also updates my libstdc++6 libs
[03:37] <romudog> Jeroen__ should
[03:37] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: all installed?
[03:38] <Danker> I think it can only download single file - not all directory tree. Am I right?
[03:38] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X, let's see :)
[03:38] <jeroen__> Don't know how you install, I did the tar thing and then tryed to open
[03:38] <Daisuke-Ido> NO
[03:38] <Jucato> Danker: you can go into that directory and download everything. KGet integrates very nicely with Konqueror
[03:38] <Daisuke-Ido> sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:38] <Daisuke-Ido> :)
[03:38] <jeroen__> already did that
[03:39] <Daisuke-Ido> then you should be okay
[03:39] <jeroen__> ok,. brb
[03:39] <Daisuke-Ido> restart x and we'll see what we've got
[03:39] <romudog> jeroen__ : Did you see Nvidia logo?
[03:39] <Daisuke-Ido> not sure where the tar part came in...
[03:39] <Daisuke-Ido> romudog: he hasn't restarted x yet :)
[03:39] <jeroen__> where should I see and nv logo?
[03:39] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo i thought he said he did
[03:39] <romudog> too many convos in here lol
[03:40] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen__: ctrl-alt-backspave
[03:40] <Daisuke-Ido> -v+c
[03:40] <Daisuke-Ido> whee!
[03:40] <Daisuke-Ido> he'll be back.
[03:40] <romudog> lol
[03:40] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo helpin p33pz is fun..
[03:40] <romudog> wb
[03:41] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen_: success?
[03:41] <jeroen_> I'm back
[03:41] <Daisuke-Ido> apparently, since you're here :D
[03:41] <jeroen_> didn't see an nv logo
[03:41] <Daisuke-Ido> oh, wait
[03:41] <Daisuke-Ido> hrmm
[03:41] <jacques> hi
[03:41] <romudog> if hes doin legacy it might now show
[03:41] <jeroen_> at the login I have to see an nv logo?
[03:42] <jacques> I have a problem here
[03:42] <romudog> not**
[03:42] <romudog> !ask jacques
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask jacques - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <romudog> !ask
[03:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <jeroen_> maybe I'll be to try to launch the game again
[03:42] <romudog> ok gl jeroen__
[03:43] <jacques> I can not play any dvd in my dvd rom as user
[03:43] <jeroen_> init: sdl
[03:43] <jeroen_> init: enet
[03:43] <jeroen_> init: video: mode
[03:43] <jeroen_> Unable to create OpenGL screen: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:43] <Daisuke-Ido> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:43] <Daisuke-Ido> jeroen_: ^^
[03:44] <romudog> Daisuke-ldo: You rock man. Thanks for helpin =P
[03:44] <jeroen_> thanks. I'll do a re-login
[03:44] <daquino> help...
[03:45] <Daisuke-Ido> daquino: your issue has got me completely confused.
[03:45] <Danker> [16:38]  <Jucato> How? Tried now, but....
[03:45] <daquino> when i try to start another x session from the cli it tells me im not alloud to do that
[03:45] <Daisuke-Ido> a second x session?
[03:47] <arash> !microphone
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <arash> !mic
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <arash> How can I make so my microphone works?, I Also have problem with sound, my speakers ain't working...
[03:49] <Daisuke-Ido> i'm a little concerned, jeroen hasn't been back yet
[03:49] <romudog> Ehh i hope its all good lol
[03:49] <arash> jeroen?
[03:52] <Daisuke-Ido> right now i'm trying to figure out why i can't connect to any trackers...
[03:52] <Daisuke-Ido> brb
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> well that was pointless
[03:55] <romudog> lol
[03:55] <romudog> what happened?
[03:55] <Jeroenw> Hi
[03:55] <Jeroenw> It's me, jeroen_
[03:56] <romudog> hey
[03:56] <romudog> Did it work?
[03:56] <Jeroenw> I'm back on my windows pc cause my Kubuntu doesn't want to boot anymore :s
[03:56] <romudog> DAMN!!!!
[03:56] <romudog> Thats not good
[03:57] <romudog> What error?
[03:57] <Jeroenw> I see the loading screen but then a short black screen and then again a loading screen and then just a cursor
[03:57] <romudog> hmm
[03:57] <Daisuke-Ido> this is bs
[03:58] <romudog> wat is?
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> connection problems
[03:58] <romudog> lol
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> cannot connect to any BT trackers :\
[03:58] <romudog> daisuke what country u in>
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> US
[03:58] <romudog> dont use Torrentspy
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> oh hell no
[03:58] <romudog> Stay safe man
[03:59] <Daisuke-Ido> i stick to private trackers, for the most part :)
[03:59] <romudog> RIAA/MPAA/Bush out to get you
[03:59] <Daisuke-Ido> OPP
[03:59] <romudog> lol k
[03:59] <khaije1> hey all
[04:00] <romudog> I want my electronics kit to come so i can go built my subwoofers :|
[04:00] <khaije1> whats the deal w/ emerald? I install it but it doesn't seems to do anything... even as i see it running from top
[04:01] <Daisuke-Ido> did you install beryl?
[04:03] <khaije1> Daisuke-Ido: ya
[04:03] <benedek> How can I set the resolution which is used at the at the login screen?
[04:04] <boeroe> hello i am trying to install a flash player plug in for opera. after typing :  sudo ./flashplayer-installer he ask for the installer path of MOzilla .  I can not enter the right path. Can anyone tell me the installation path?
[04:04] <Jeroenw> Do I have to reinstall Kubuntu? :s
[04:04] <Daisuke-Ido> oh hey, you're back!
[04:04] <romudog> boeroe: First off why do you use Opera?
[04:04] <xst> How do I rip a CD into mp3 and automatically store the songs in an "artist/album/" path? Just opening the CD (right click -> open) gives the mp3 files, but without the artist/album directory structure
[04:04] <Daisuke-Ido> what happened?
[04:04] <khaije1> i have aiglx working now, it's just that i don't have a decorator... weird emerald doesn't seem to work...
[04:04] <_4strO> !flash
[04:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:04] <boeroe> seems to be fast
[04:04] <romudog> Kerpenw shouldnt have to...use a livecd to fix..lol
[04:04] <_4strO> !flashplayer
[04:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <romudog> Jeroenw shouldnt have to
[04:05] <Jeroenw> then what do I have to do then?
[04:05] <Daisuke-Ido> Jeroenw: what in the what now?
[04:05] <Daisuke-Ido> i missed some stuff when the connection crashed
[04:05] <romudog> It wont boot kubuntu wont
[04:05] <Daisuke-Ido> ouch
[04:05] <boeroe> oke uboto will check it
[04:05] <boeroe> thx
[04:06] <romudog> jeroenw tell him what u get when u try to boot
[04:06] <Daisuke-Ido> what os are you using right now?
[04:06] <romudog> Windows he is
[04:06] <Jeroenw> yeah but this is another computer
[04:06] <romudog> o lol
[04:06] <romudog> gd
[04:06] <Jeroenw> :p
[04:06] <Daisuke-Ido> well that will help things
[04:06] <romudog> yes it does
[04:07] <bch> anyone have an opinion on what file system to put on a 9TB raid 0? or know any good sites to compare file systems?
[04:07] <Jeroenw> so when I try to boot, it first boots normally, I see the loading screen. But then a short black screen and then back a loading screen. And then just a cursor
[04:07] <romudog> Whats it for bch?
[04:07] <Daisuke-Ido> Jeroenw: ctrl-alt-f8 or ctrl-alt-f1 do anything?
[04:07] <Jeroenw> I'll try it
[04:08] <romudog> if you can drop to a cmd prompt its best :)
[04:08] <Daisuke-Ido> romudog: exactly where i'm trying to get him
[04:08] <romudog> daisuke-ldo yes i know your 1337 im not ;P
[04:08] <Daisuke-Ido> if nothing else, he can mount his hdd from the live cd and change his video driver back to nv :)
[04:08] <Jeroenw> ctrl alt F1 did something
[04:08] <Daisuke-Ido> and i'm not.
[04:08] <Daisuke-Ido> Jeroenw: what something?
[04:08] <Jeroenw> I could enter my username and password
[04:09] <romudog> daisuke-ldo you are what i tell you you are and your l33t xD
[04:09] <Daisuke-Ido> good, this is good.
[04:09] <Jeroenw> and now I have like a terminal
[04:09] <romudog> YAY!!!!
[04:09] <romudog> hopefully he has emacs installed...lmfao
[04:09] <Daisuke-Ido> okay, at the terminal, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:09] <Daisuke-Ido> no need for emacs for something this simple :)
[04:09] <Daisuke-Ido> pico/nano is fine :)
[04:09] <Jeroenw> ok, just a sec. Ill bring my laptop to my desktop
[04:09] <Jeroenw> brb, just switching from netwerk
[04:10] <Jeroenw> network
[04:10] <romudog> daisuke-ldo..NOW YOU TELL ME OMFG AFTER 30 mins of hardkore work in emacs to change driver back omfg...thanks xD...lol
[04:10] <vendetta_lord> back
[04:10] <vendetta_lord> It's me jeroen_
[04:10] <romudog> lol
[04:11] <Daisuke-Ido> okay
[04:11] <vendetta_lord> so what did I had to type ?
[04:11] <Daisuke-Ido> sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:11] <Daisuke-Ido> bout time.
[04:11] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:12] <vendetta_lord> and now? I have like a config screen
[04:12] <Daisuke_Ido> scroll down to Section "Device"
[04:13] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> what does it say for Driver?
[04:13] <vendetta_lord> generic video card
[04:13] <vendetta_lord> nvidia
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> k, change "nvidia" to "nv"
[04:13] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> then ctrl-o to save
[04:14] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and ctrl-x to exit
[04:14] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:14] <vendetta_lord> now the menu is gone and I have the terminal again
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[04:15] <vendetta_lord> do I have to restart my computer?
[04:15] <bch> the array os for storage, but I want it to be fast. hence the stripe as opposed to fault tolerance
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> now, 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[04:15] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> -r is the restart option, now is when you want it done :)
[04:16] <vendetta_lord> k, it's rebooting
[04:16] <vendetta_lord> I have the loading screen
[04:17] <vendetta_lord> and again, a short black screen and a loading screen again. and then the cursor :(
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl-alt-f1 again
[04:17] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:18] <vendetta_lord> i'm in the terminal
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> let me think here for a second...
[04:19] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:20] <Arwen> what's '-phigh' do?
[04:20] <vendetta_lord> now I have another screen
[04:21] <benedek> Arwen: I think that depends on the command you use that option with
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: priority: high
[04:21] <Arwen> ah
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> only asks the highest-priority questions
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> (driver, resolution)
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: what are your options?
[04:22] <vendetta_lord> x server drivers: and then a whole list of names
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> select nv
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> then next
[04:22] <vendetta_lord> I also have nvidia
[04:22] <vendetta_lord> but I'll select nv
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> we can work on getting 3d once your system's in working order again
[04:23] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now click the start menu
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ...
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> it's official, i read too much xkcd :)
[04:23] <vendetta_lord> now I have to select a resolution when I selected "nv"
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> lcd monitor?
[04:24] <vendetta_lord> no
[04:24] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, so select the resolutions your monitor supports
[04:24] <Arwen> if it's not an LCD, probably every resolution with a 4:3 ratio
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> what arwen said.
[04:24] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> probably up to 1280x960
[04:24] <vendetta_lord> now there appeared a terminal
[04:24] <Arwen> e.g. 1600x1200, 1440x1050, 1280x960, 1152,86something, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
[04:25] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, up to 1600x1200
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: ah, never had a monitor that would support that :D
[04:25] <romudog> Anwen: Unless its widescreen
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> romudog: it's a crt
[04:25] <romudog> Daisuke_ldo whats ur max rez?
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> 1280x1024
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> lcd
[04:25] <Arwen> hehe
[04:25] <romudog> Daisuke_ldo I cant stand that man i need 1600x1200
[04:25] <Arwen> I hate stupid manufacturers that can't even make displays with the right AR :-\
[04:26] <Arwen> what's with this 16:10 and 5:4 nonsense?
[04:26] <vendetta_lord> what do I have to type in the terminal?
[04:26] <romudog> Arwen: i agree
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: if it's already saved, you should try rebooting
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> (if you're at a terminal, it's saved)
[04:27] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:27] <Arwen> probably you want to 'modprobe -r nvidia' first though
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: you would have to go and find an easier way
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[04:27] <vendetta_lord> mmh, so now, first reboot?
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i need a cancer stick, be right back
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> no don't reboot
[04:27] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> just follow arwen's directions :D
[04:28] <vendetta_lord> i'm still here with the termil undernead my resolution screen
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> modprobe -r nvidia
[04:29] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, ok, take it 1 sentence at a time, where are ya?
[04:29] <Ind[y] > I first had roaming mode. It found networks. I changed to Manual settings. It didn't work. So, I changed back to roaming mode, but now it doesn't find any networks. Please, help me.
[04:29] <vendetta_lord> just typed in modprobe......
[04:29] <Arwen> wait, so did the dpkg-reconfigure already finish?
[04:31] <bossyana> i have a ubuntu
[04:31] <bossyana> i will ask u?
[04:31] <vendetta_lord> I think. I just click "enter when I selected my resolutions and then the terminal appeared underneath that res. screen
[04:32] <Arwen> ok, then you want '/etc/init.d/kdm' stop
[04:32] <Arwen> that will kill X if it's running
[04:32] <Ind[y] > First, I had Roaming Mode, and it found wireless networks. I changed to Manual Settings, but it didn't work, so I decided to change back to Roaming Mode. Now it doesn't find any wireless networks. I think this is insane.
[04:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[04:36] <romudog> Hey BluesKaj :P
[04:36] <vendetta_lord> stopping K Display manager: kdm not runningkill: 140: Operation not permitted
[04:36] <BluesKaj> hi romudog , bust today ?
[04:36] <BluesKaj> busy?
[04:36] <romudog> BluesKaj, not rlly...was a while ago
[04:36] <romudog> BluesKaj dont you have work? lol
[04:36] <BluesKaj> well some , around the house , but it's raining today ...I'm retired :)
[04:36] <Gerrit> Where was it again that I can configure firefox to open a link if i middle-click and it is in the clipboard?
[04:36] <romudog> BluesKaj, Thats great...what are your hobbies? any xp with electronics?
[04:36] <vendetta_lord> Arwen: What do I have to do now?
[04:36] <BluesKaj> some with audio , not real heavy stuff but built some kits in my time
[04:36] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, 'rmmod nvidia'
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm going to restart, brb
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe that will fix my tracker problems
[04:36] <Arwen> finally, '/etc/init.d/kdm start'
[04:36] <romudog> BluesKaj heh Im into electronics, What kinda hobbies you have?
[04:36] <vendetta_lord> ERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:37] <Gerrit> I found it.
[04:37] <Sanne> Gerrit: where? I'm looking.
[04:37] <BluesKaj> fixed up a couple of old pc's and like I said did some audio kits , romudog
[04:37] <romudog> BluesKaj lol cool
[04:38] <vendetta_lord> damn Kubuntu, wooooooork :p
[04:38] <romudog> it does work :P
[04:38] <BluesKaj> what about you romudog , i gather yer into electronics somewhat ?
[04:38] <vendetta_lord> not with me :p
[04:38] <vendetta_lord> it's kinda euhm.. not booting :p
[04:39] <romudog> BluesKaj, Yes Alternative Energy, Electronics, RF/Communications, Welding, Building, Fixing...lol Comnputers...Technology.
[04:39] <BluesKaj> right a true geek , romudog :)
[04:39] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, that error is ok
[04:39] <Arwen> it doesn't matter
[04:39] <vendetta_lord> ow ok
[04:39] <romudog> BluesKaj, I'm proud of it too :D
[04:39] <BluesKaj> right on , romudog
[04:41] <BluesKaj> romudog, I still play drums in a band , have a few local gigs every yr and get together and jam on wknds
[04:41] <romudog> BluesKaj: Ever thought of recording it?
[04:41] <vendetta_lord> I typed that ect/init.d/kdm start    ----> bash etc.init.d/kdm: file or map does not exist  (Translated it to english)
[04:42] <Gerrit> Sanne: about:config middlemouse.contentLoadURL
[04:42] <Gerrit> Sanne: Apparantly, kubuntu has it turned off by default
[04:42] <BluesKaj> we have lotta recordings ...just not good enufdf audiowise yet ...still working on our sound system
[04:42] <romudog> BluesKaj, Good luck. I'm interested in hearing it if you get it all setup :)
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> WELL.
[04:43] <stan_> hey guys, having some trouble ewith wireless here...
[04:43] <BluesKaj> we're trying :)
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> that worked well
[04:43] <stan_> it only works when theres no WEP enabled
[04:43] <Sanne> Gerrit: ah yes, I remember. I have Firefox from mozilla.org, which has it enabled by default on Linux. Btw, do you know this page? Might interest you: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries
[04:43] <stan_> is there a way to fix it or set it up?
[04:43] <stan_> because i already looked through tons of forum posts and still no joy
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> slash between etc and init.d
[04:44] <vendetta_lord> yeah, I did that. typed it wrong on this pc but I typed it right in the terminal
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> did you start out with an ubuntu install and then install kde?
[04:45] <stan_> anyone?
[04:45] <vendetta_lord> no
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> stan_: try the other wep mode
[04:45] <vendetta_lord> ooow yeah
[04:45] <stan_> Daisule_Ido: which one would that be?
[04:45] <vendetta_lord> I had windows and ubuntu on my pc.
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:45] <vendetta_lord> but I deleted both to start with Kubuntu
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> wep 40/104 bit ascii
[04:46] <vendetta_lord> command not found
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: this making sense to you?
[04:47] <stan_> Daisuke_Ido: im gonna try this now, but one question: what difference is it between ascii and hex keys?
[04:48] <vendetta_lord> maybe it's better to re-install Kubuntu?
[04:48] <stan_> Daisuke_Ido: i mean my key loks lie this XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
[04:48] <Arwen> sorry, what?
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: that's a last resort :)
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: apparently it can find neither kdm nor gdm
[04:48] <stan_> Daisuke_Ido is this hex or ascii?
[04:48] <Arwen> uh... maybe xdm? lol
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> 10 numeric digits?
[04:49] <Arwen> stan_, does it have any letters after 'f'?
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: bear with me...  sudo apt-get install kdm
[04:49] <vendetta_lord> ok
[04:50] <stan_> Arwen: what do you mean? whether there are any letters like K or S?
[04:50] <vendetta_lord> it said that kdm is already the newest version
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /etc/init.d
[04:50] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, are you absolutely sure you typed it right?
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> etc not ect, things like that
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> stan_: exactly
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> if not, it's probably hex
[04:51] <Arwen> holy s*** only 170M swap free eand 50M RAM free!
[04:51] <vendetta_lord> yeah. I typed it right.
[04:51] <stan_> Arwen: no, they are only like f,a,c, e...
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it's hex
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> use that rather than ascii
[04:51] <Arwen> probably hex, gah, I'm screwed
[04:52] <romudog> Arwen dw linux is funny about ram
[04:52] <vendetta_lord> now I'm in /etc/init.d$
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: just type kdm
[04:52] <In[d] y> Ubuntu 7.04. I had it to Roaming Mode, and it found Wireless Networks and it connected to mine. Nice. I changed it to Manual Settings, but they didn't work. So, what's logical? To turn it back to Roaming Mode. I did so. What do we all expect? To find Wireless Networks and connect to mine. But what happened instead? It didn't find any Wireless Network. I would be really glad if someone could explain this.
[04:52] <romudog> Arwen it uses almost all of it until its needed
[04:52] <Minataku> ASCII and Hex keys are the same exact thing, except that in an ASCII key, you have half the space but can use ASCII characters
[04:52] <vendetta_lord> only root wants to run kdm
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> romudog: you're preaching to the choir :P
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: then we're good
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo kdm start
[04:52] <Minataku> The ASCII codes for the characters are then used as the values for the hex key
[04:53] <vendetta_lord> command not found
[04:53] <vendetta_lord> ow
[04:53] <Minataku> Hex being a convienent way to represent 4 bit binary values
[04:53] <romudog> Daisuke_ldo sorry? I dont understand really... ive heard that term before but i forgot what it means so you can tell me so i dont gotta google define it xD
[04:53] <vendetta_lord> k
[04:53] <Arwen> romudog, I'm not a dumbass, I know that ram is used for cache..
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> romudog: you're telling him what he already knows :)
[04:53] <Arwen> no, I seriously have a process eating 700M
[04:53] <vendetta_lord> still in /etc/init.d$
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo kdm
[04:54] <Minataku> Arwen: Find it and zap it then
[04:54] <Arwen> can't system isu nresponsive
[04:54] <romudog> Arwen Well excuse me...i was trying to help..maybe ill quit helping :P
[04:54] <Minataku> Arwen: Ctrl+SysRq+E
[04:54] <Minataku> Er
[04:54] <Minataku> Alt+SysRq+E
[04:54] <Arwen> magic sysreq? what's that one do?
[04:54] <Minataku> Which should terminate everything but init
[04:55] <Minataku> If that fails, use Alt+SysRq+I
[04:55] <Minataku> Which sends SIGKILL to all but init
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> romudog: after a little while you learn who the helpers and who the helpees are
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> though sometimes they swap
[04:56] <Minataku> If _THAT_ fails
[04:56] <Arwen> Minataku, I can't nuke the system, there's critical documents open..
[04:56] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: which I am then?
[04:56] <vendetta_lord> Daisuke_Ido: what do I have to type now?
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Tm_T: you're the helpER.
[04:56] <Minataku> Arwen: Well if it's unresponsive then you're pretty much screwed either way, aren't you?
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: try just sudo kdm
[04:56] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: thanks, you did just help me in this issue, that makes your statement false (;
[04:56] <vendetta_lord> still in /etc/init.d$
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Tm_T: incorrect, i mentioned that sometimes they swap.  you're a helper that asked a question :P
[04:57] <Minataku> You can TRY to get to a terminal and fight through
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo kdm restart?
[04:57] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: bah, I knew you use that hole in the rule
[04:58] <Minataku> Otherwise, try those, if both fail, use A+SQ+S five times, A+SQ+U, then A+SQ+B
[04:58] <vendetta_lord> still in /etc/init.d$
[04:58] <romudog> Daisuke_ldo: Your name is 22222 long xD
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl-alt-f7
[04:58] <Minataku> Wait five seconds after each A+SQ+S
[04:58] <Minataku> This is to ensure that the kernel syncs up
[04:58] <vendetta_lord> now I have that cursor again
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> k, so that didn't work
[04:58] <Minataku> Then you unmount/remount read-only and reboot
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl-alt-f1 to get back where you were
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> this is actually a very good lesson on using VTs :)
[04:59] <killermach_> how do I change the font style on the desktop icons?
[04:59] <Minataku> If it all goes as planned, you unmount cleanly and are able to reboot cleanly
[04:59] <Arwen> ah wait, I finally managed to get it to die...
[04:59] <Arwen> stupid p7zip..
[04:59] <vendetta_lord> maybe I better reinstall it, cause I still have to learn for my exams :p
[04:59] <Minataku> Heh, I can't remember the last time I had anything jam up the whole system
[04:59] <Minataku> But then I compile my own kernels
[04:59] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> vendetta_lord: it's actually starting to look that way
[05:00] <vendetta_lord> yeah
[05:00] <Minataku> That "PREEMPT" is probably what keeps any one process from screwing the whole system
[05:00] <vendetta_lord> well, I'll reboot with my kubuntu disk then
[05:00] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:01] <Arwen> last time I tried to build a kernel it kernel panicked on boot..
[05:01] <vendetta_lord> start of install kubuntu ^^
[05:03] <vendetta_lord> Damn, now I have to reorganise all my music, and install all those other programs again :p
[05:03] <Arwen> you shoulda used a seperate partition for /home :-)
[05:03] <Arwen> then you'd only have to install the programs again
[05:04] <vendetta_lord> bwa, it's not really suchs a big deal, it's just music ^^
[05:04] <vendetta_lord> 5 min. work :p
[05:04] <Rami_> If i'm installing WINE? does that make my computer open to viruses?
[05:06] <MaTiAz> no :)
[05:06] <Rami_> ok:D
[05:06] <vendetta_lord> omg, my dvd drive is soooo hot :s
[05:06] <vendetta_lord> that's not normal :D
[05:06] <BluesKaj> AFAIK Rami_ only if you have a windows partition...then the partition , like any other "windows" is a target
[05:06] <killermach_> I got it right-click Desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options
[05:07] <Rami_> ok ok ok:D:D
[05:08] <Arwen> "does installing WINE leave my computer open to viruses"? wtf?
[05:11] <vendetta_lord> I think my installation is failing :s
[05:11] <Arwen> vendetta_lord, why?
[05:12] <vendetta_lord> when he ask for my name and stuff It keeps loading :s
[05:12] <vendetta_lord> never had that before
[05:12] <dwidmann_> Arwen: theoretically if you try to run a) a virus or b) internet explorer in wine, well,  what do you think would happen if you ran a virus in some manner or another
[05:12] <Arwen> dwidmann_, then such virus would f--- up your wine profile and maybe any other directories you have rwx on?
[05:13] <Arwen> or, more likely, it fails due to a lack of windows-specific functions and makes wine start eating up cpu
[05:13] <dwidmann_> Arwen, yeah, pretty much what I would think too, though, theoretically it could hit your whole home directory, or worse case any files that you own.
[05:13] <dwidmann_> *worst case
[05:14] <Arwen> I suppose if you ran wine as root, lol
[05:14] <BluesKaj> heh dwidmann_, just as a rest ..i
[05:14] <dwidmann_> Arwen: yeah, plenty of things out there that fail, though, most viruses are pretty simple, I'm sure at least some could run though
[05:14] <vendetta_lord> pfff I had enough trouble for today :p
[05:14] <Arwen> heh
[05:14] <BluesKaj> I'm runnning adaware in wine
[05:14] <vendetta_lord> I'll fix it after my exams
[05:15] <Arwen> I use wine to run cygwin!
[05:15] <BluesKaj> err test
[05:15] <dwidmann_> BluesKaj: hahaha, let me know how that works out
[05:15] <BluesKaj> dwidmann_, it's running :)
[05:18] <Arwen> I'm getting an nvidia one of these days...
[05:21] <mentoreee> !german
[05:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:22] <BluesKaj> been looking at nividia but not being real educated in the graphics qualities and capabilities dept , I'm not sure what to look for.
[05:23] <BluesKaj> 3D and DRI of course but ...what else ?
[05:27] <AaronCampbell> We had like 5 or 6 power outages yesterday...most were handled by my UPS, and the system was shut down fine.  At least one wasn't.  Today, I can't seem to connect to my network.  I can't even ping the router I'm plugged directly in to.  I went through the settings, and it seems right...
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> !netscape
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netscape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <AaronCampbell> I have the right static IP, the right gateway, and the interface shows as enabled.
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> netscape?  are you serious?
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> don't ask..   :?
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> one of those things...  i completely understand
[05:28] <BluesKaj> AaronCampbell, I hate to state the obvious , but did you try rebooting the router ?
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> not one of those things I gotta do by choice...
[05:28] <Arwen> nutscrape? where? o.O
[05:28] <AaronCampbell> I did, but everyone else can connect to it fine (including the windows laptop I'm on right now)
[05:33] <AaronCampbell> Are there any diagnostic apps that can see what's going wrong?  I mean, normally I might trace the route, but I know it doesn't make the first hop, so that's useless
[05:33] <bestiALE> hi, i'd like to know if there is any OpenGL headers package under Kubuntu, because I can't find it in standard repositories
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> bestiALE: should be "libgl or something"-dev
[05:33] <bestiALE> nosrednaekim: tnx, i'm going to try...
[05:35] <BluesKaj> OpenGL Utility Toolkit-freeglut3 , bestiALE ...there are some others too
[05:36] <bestiALE> i found libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:37] <bestiALE> i need it to compile wine
[05:37] <bestiALE> i mean, i need opengl headers to compile wine
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> bestiALE: I think that is it.
[05:38] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Dumb Q, but have you tried rebooting the system thats having trouble?
[05:38] <bestiALE> i'll try both, tnx ;-)
[05:38] <AaronCampbell> Gunner74, a few times
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: whats the problem?
[05:39] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: We had like 5 or 6 power outages yesterday...most were handled by my UPS, and the system was shut down fine.  At least one wasn't.  Today, I can't seem to connect to my network.  I can't even ping the router I'm plugged directly in to.  I went through the settings, and it seems right...
[05:39] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: was the router hooked up to the UPS?  And have you tried connecting to a different port?
[05:40] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: I have the right static IP, the right gateway, and the interface shows as enabled.
[05:40] <AaronCampbell> Gunner74, yes, and yes.  I swapped it with the port this laptop was connected to...the laptop works in it's port, but it doesn't work in the laptops old port
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: did you totally reset the router?
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> our router was messed up like that... just had to do a completereset
[05:41] <jeanine> hello... can anyone tell me how to get / install / use ndis wrapper>
[05:42] <jeanine> ?
[05:42] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: The router works fine...3 other computers are on the internet using it now.  It's what I'm using right now
[05:43] <jeanine> can I get it with the console?
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: hmm, this machine you are on... was it plugged into the ethernet when the surges and outages were going on?
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> jeanine: sure
[05:43] <AaronCampbell> yes
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> sorry AaronCampbell, got disconnected, did you say something
[05:46] <joe4288> hey i cant seem to get w32codecs
[05:46] <AaronCampbell> I said yes, the laptop and the other desktops were plugged into it at the time
[05:46] <joe4288> i was wondering if i could use the codecs from my windows machine?
[05:47] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Got an extra nic laying around?  Could be that.
[05:47] <CraZy675> when I try to run swiftfox I get the error: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:47] <CraZy675> that sounds really bad
[05:47] <joe4288> does any 1 know if i can use the codecs from my windows machince
[05:47] <joe4288> i cant seem do download w32codecs
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: shorted NIC?
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> joe4288: did you use the seveas repo?
[05:48] <joe4288> nosrednaekim: i put in some repo not sure which 1
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> !seveas
[05:48] <joe4288> nosrednaekim: if you could post the repo you got i would use it
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> !seveas | joe4288
[05:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:49] <ubotu> joe4288: please see above
[05:49] <joe4288> ok
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[05:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:53] <bonbonthejon> yummy
[05:53] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, adaware ran the windows partition but froze after trying the ext3 libs
[05:55] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: hmm, figures it'd crash when it tried to scan that I suppose
[05:56] <AFaith> hello there my fellows
[05:56] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, hehe yeah , interesting that it even attempted it.
[05:56] <AFaith> i've got a problem a couple of days with beryl
[05:56] <AFaith> anyone knows whats the problem ?
[05:56] <AFaith> wait a second
[05:56] <AFaith> to send you a couple of pictures
[05:57] <AFaith> http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=247049&view=findpost&p=2950999 ---> here it is
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> loking AFaith
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> AFaith: you may want to go over to #ubuntu-effects
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> that and i have no desire to register for a forum to look at a screenshot.
[05:59] <AFaith> ok then nosrednaekim! thanks for the tip:P
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> AFaith: can't look at them. I'm not a softpedia member
[05:59] <AFaith> Daisuke_Ido: oh ... i might forgotten that little inconvence
[05:59] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: I just tried 2 other nics...something is wrong here, because it still doesn't work
[06:00] <AFaith> gimme a couple of secounds to post them on imageshak
[06:00] <AFaith> imageshack*
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: did you totally reset the router?
[06:00] <thev> anyone know what "wrong input (flag != 4) at admin/conf.change.pl line 117, <> line 1234" means when trying to ./configure?
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> thev: what program?
[06:01] <Gunner74> nosrednaekim: I don't think it's the router.
[06:01] <thev> kiomtp
[06:01] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: I can't...there are 3 other people using it right now.  It works fine for them...so I doubt that's the issue
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: you never know...Like I said b4, ours was acting weird, letting some people use it, some not.
[06:02] <thev> AaronCampbell: I've seen the same thing on different routers
[06:02] <thev> they can be strange little beasties
[06:02] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Are you using static ip's?
[06:03] <AaronCampbell> Gunner74: yes
[06:03] <thev> nosrednaekim - I'm trying to install KioMTP
[06:03] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Try a different one?
[06:03] <thev> so I can actually browse the file structure of my Creative Zen
[06:03] <ubuntu__> hey every body
[06:03] <AaronCampbell> yeah..I tried 3  .1, .2, and .3
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> thev: it looks like an error in the makefile
[06:04] <ubuntu__> new to this ubuntu linux in general
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: ok.
[06:04] <thev> nosrednaekim - great - anything I can do to fix it?
[06:05] <thev> or am I screwed
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> thev: thats a konqueror plugin right?
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> libMTP doesn't do it for you?
[06:05] <thev> nosrednaekim: yeah it's supposed to be
[06:05] <thev> libMTP is installed... but I dunno how to use konqueror with it
[06:06] <thev> I mean, Amarok works with it fine, but can only see songs
[06:06] <ubuntu__> what is the easiest distro for an x window user ??
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> thev: all i've heard about is libMTP and amarok.
[06:06] <thev> I'm trying to get at the photos
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: kubuntu ;)
[06:06] <thev> digiKam will read it as well, but ALL of it
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: actually, ubuntu might be easier
[06:06] <Minataku> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecsu13U5VuI&mode=related&search=
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> thev: I don't know...
[06:07] <trakinas> ubuntu__: *ubuntu and kurumin. but kurumin is a brazilian one. if you speak portuguese... =P
[06:07] <Minataku> Oops, wrong channel
[06:07] <AaronCampbell> Gunner74, nosrednaekim: I was just able to get the wireless network connected...
[06:07] <AaronCampbell> Sure feels slow after having gigabit for so long
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> AaronCampbell: was that not working b4?
[06:07] <trakinas> thev: in anycase, look into Tux Mobile page
[06:07] <AaronCampbell> nosrednaekim: hadn't used it...it's been disabled since I got the computer
[06:07] <Minataku> It's completely safe if you want to see it, though
[06:07] <thev> nosrednaekim - it's making me crazy.  If digikam can read the whole thing, why can't I just tell it a specific dir to look in?  You can only do that for Mass USB for some reason
[06:08] <thev> trakinas - tux mobile?
[06:08] <Minataku> I doubt anyone would really be offended by an EBS test from the 80s
[06:08] <ubuntu__> thanxs for the help...................jeeeezzzzz
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> thev: maybe you can.
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: huh?
[06:08] <trakinas> thev: it is a page about mobile devices on linux.
[06:08] <thev> trakinas - ok, I'll look, thanks!
[06:08] <trakinas> thev: you are welcome.
[06:09] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Now that's just annoying.... Don't know why the hard-wire connection isn't working.
[06:09] <joe4288> does any 1 know how to get the seveas key becayse gpg cant seem to find the server for the key
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> joe4288: you really don't NEED the key
[06:10] <trakinas> they have tips there. you will probably find somethings, although if creative zen is compilent with usb mass storage, it should automaticaly be mounted and found. at least, i never had any problems with pen-drives and some mp3 players devices.
[06:10] <thev> trakinas - it's a MTP device
[06:10] <thev> that's the problem
[06:10] <AFaith> nosrednaekim & Daisuke_Ido : tell me if you can access this picture : http://www.flickr.com/photos/45051637@N00/570003148/
[06:10] <joe4288> nosrednaekim: yea but i dont like to see error messages
[06:10] <thev> if it was mass storage, no problem
[06:10] <joe4288> nosrednaekim: im going to try wget
[06:10] <trakinas> that makes me sad too. :/
[06:10] <trakinas> i was considering by one. heeh
[06:11] <thev> it's a great player
[06:11] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Is this a laptop?
[06:11] <thev> if you run windows :p
[06:11] <trakinas> lol
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[06:11] <trakinas> so im, again, considering buy cowon iaudio... it plays ape files, flac, ogg..
[06:11] <AaronCampbell> Gunner74: no
[06:11] <thev> I think complete support is pretty close though, like I said before Amarok has no issues transferring music to and from
[06:12] <thev> but it's the photos I want to access
[06:12] <trakinas> yep. i read some of your msgs. =P
[06:12] <thev> because it does USB host, and I can upload my DSLR shots in the field to it
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> picked up a sandisk sansa e260, definitely worth it, MSC and MTP modes :)
[06:12] <thev> yeah I needed something that did USB host too
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> AFaith: that happens, some of the themes are screwed up
[06:13] <stan_> ok, following problem: after restart i loose the internet connection... only if i go to k > system settings > network settings, select the device, disable it and then enable it again, i have my connection back. im using wireless... any clues?..
[06:14] <AFaith> Daisuke_Ido: it happened oth in pclos & ubunu 7.04 & 6.10 and it also happened with to a couple of friends
[06:14] <thev> stan - yeah I was having that issue too
[06:15] <thev> are you using NDISWrapper with a broadcom card?
[06:16] <stan_> anyone? ive struggling with this the whole day already... :((
[06:16] <stan_> thev: no
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> AFaith: happened to me too, it's not a huge deal
[06:16] <stan_> thev: what is it?
[06:17] <thev> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[06:17] <AFaith> Daisuke_Ido: what should i do ?
[06:18] <stan_> thev: its intel something, where can i check it out exactly?
[06:18] <Assid> heya
[06:19] <thev> stan: if it's Intel then I can't help you, your problem is probably different from mine
[06:19] <stan_> mm
[06:19] <stan_> i see
[06:19] <stan_> thanks anyway
[06:20] <Assid> heya
[06:21] <Assid> can someone help me with this.. i keep running into the fonts behaving a little odd
[06:21] <Assid> i've enabled anti aliasing and subpixel
[06:22] <Assid> it works somewhat.. but still acting strange
[06:22] <trakinas> Assid: lcd monitor?
[06:22] <joe4288> hi im having trouble here
[06:22] <joe4288> i install the seveas repo
[06:23] <Assid> trakinas, yessir
[06:23] <joe4288> but i cant seem to use there packages
[06:23] <Gerrit> hello world
[06:23] <joe4288> i type w32codec and its says another package talks about it but its not there
[06:23] <trakinas> Assid: i read once something about which fonts are great for lcd. cant remember right now where. :/
[06:23] <joe4288> i put the repo in /etc/apt/sources.list did i do something wrong?
[06:24] <trakinas> paste-bin your sources in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <trakinas> i will read it asap. in the meanwhile, someone can help you. Lunch time now. =P
[06:25] <joe4288> trakinas:
[06:25] <joe4288> trakinas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26280/
[06:27] <qmr> How do I have konq. remember passwords without using kde wallet ?
[06:27] <BluesKaj> joe4288, have you done a 'sudo apt-get update' , since you added the repos ?
[06:27] <joe4288> lol of course
[06:27] <Gunner74> AaronCampbell: Sorry, I can't think of anything else to help.
[06:27] <BluesKaj> well, I had to ask :)
[06:28] <thev> joe4288 - I don't see the seveas repos in the sources list
[06:28] <joe4288> np
[06:28] <joe4288> its the playboymansion 1
[06:28] <BluesKaj> it's not there
[06:28] <joe4288> the american 1 didnt work so i had to put in the uk 1
[06:28] <thev> All I see are the standard repos
[06:29] <BluesKaj> joe4288,did you click 'save' after adding the repos to the sources list ?
[06:29] <joe4288> opps forgot to post it
[06:29] <joe4288> lol
[06:29] <joe4288> no just when i copyed it i didnt scroll down
[06:29] <BluesKaj> I ahad to ask that too
[06:29] <Assid> okay gonna try something
[06:30] <joe4288> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26282/ there you go
[06:32] <joe4288> you guys take a look at it?
[06:32] <AaronCampbell> Thanks Gunner74 ...I remember having some sort of issue with this when I installed the feisty beta (wireless worked, but wired didn't).
[06:33] <aaroncampbell_> Of course, at that time, everyone in the +1 channel knew exactly what I was talking about...
[06:33] <BluesKaj> joe4288, try this repos site ,i know you can get the w32codecs there : http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[06:33] <joe4288> lol another repo to add
[06:34] <BluesKaj> seveas seems not to be working ATM
[06:34] <joe4288> well i dont know ill add this 1 and see what happens
[06:35] <qmr> How do I have konq. remember passwords without using kde wallet ?
[06:36] <joe4288> BluesKaj: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/
[06:40] <joe4288> BluesKaj: youd take a look
[06:42] <joe4288> ok guys heres my problem no matter what repo i add to sources.list they dont work
[06:42] <joe4288> i can apt-get update them
[06:43] <joe4288> and they show up but i cant seem to get any packages from them
[06:43] <joe4288> any ideas any 1?
[06:43] <Tm_T> joe4288: how about telling exact error?
[06:43] <Tm_T> joe4288: and use pastebin for larger texts
[06:43] <joe4288> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/
[06:44] <qmr> gmail doesn't work in konq.!  help?  it shows a lot of mail looking text, but it's not formatted right, and is all one long runon line
[06:45] <joe4288> Tm_T: so any ideas?
[06:45] <savetheWorld> qmr - I reccomend firefox
[06:45] <alesan> hi I am watching the log in /var/log/messages and I see there is a kind of timestamp in earch line that looks like this:
[06:45] <Tm_T> qmr: hum?
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[06:45] <qmr> firefox launches too slow though
[06:45] <alesan> what exactly is that?
[06:46] <Tm_T> qmr: works well here
[06:46] <savetheWorld> alsmy guess would be an epoch timestamp
[06:46] <Komsip> qmr: it will work right if you set konq to identify as firefox
[06:46] <alesan> how do I create such timestamp?
[06:46] <Komsip> at least for me
[06:46] <savetheWorld> alesan:  guess would be an epoch timestamp
[06:46] <Tm_T> joe4288: have you run apt-get update?
[06:46] <alesan> save, the number of secodns since 1970-01-01?
[06:46] <savetheWorld> alesan: see the date command
[06:46] <Tm_T> joe4288: please give full output of it to me (:
[06:46] <alesan> thanks
[06:47] <joe4288> Tm_T: sure np
[06:47] <zoohouse> How do I see which mods are running?
[06:48] <Tm_T> zoohouse: pardon?
[06:48] <joe4444> anyone know about setting up TwinView for dual displays in Feisty?
[06:48] <Gunner74> zoohouse: Mods????
[06:48] <joe4288> Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/
[06:49] <zoohouse> modules
[06:49] <zoohouse> Im not sure if im spelling it correctly..
[06:49] <Tm_T> zoohouse: you mean kernel modules?
[06:49] <zoohouse> Tm_T: yea
[06:49] <Tm_T> zoohouse: lsmod perhaps
[06:50] <Tm_T> joe4288: interesting
[06:50] <zoohouse> thank you
[06:50] <joe4288> Tm_T: see what i mean its there in the soucre.list it updates but i cant seem to use the packages from those websites
[06:50] <joe4288> Tm_T: i even get there gpg keys
[06:51] <Tm_T> joe4288: apt-cache search 32codecs ?
[06:51] <joe4288> nothing
[06:51] <Tm_T> !info w32codecs
[06:51] <ubotu> w32codecs: Win32 codec binaries. In component extras, is optional. Version 20061022-1~seveas1 (feisty-seveas), package size 13920 kB, installed size 33580 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:52] <Tm_T> humm
[06:52] <joe4288> so your saying that i cant download it because im using amd64 not i386?
[06:52] <Tm_T> well exactly
[06:53] <joe4288> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
[06:53] <Tm_T> I wonder why that didn't come to my mind
[06:53] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: You would need win64codecs
[06:53] <Tm_T> !info w64codecs
[06:53] <joe4288> ill try it
[06:53] <ubotu> Package w64codecs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:53] <Tm_T> !botsnack
[06:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:53] <Tm_T> hah
[06:53] <jhutchins_lt> I don't believe they exist.
[06:53] <joe4288> well what do you know w64codecs works LOL!!!!
[06:54] <jhutchins_lt> !find w64codecs
[06:54] <Tm_T> joe4288: well because those would be built to 64 bit system
[06:54] <ubotu> Package/file w64codecs does not exist in feisty
[06:54] <Tm_T> joe4288: blame MS or whatever, actually, blame yourself (:
[06:54] <joe4288> look please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26292/
[06:54] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: Did you find them somewhere?
[06:54] <Tm_T> glad I don't have to worry that
[06:55] <joe4288> lol i cant belive no 1 thought about me being on 64 bit not 32 lol
[06:55] <joe4288> dam 64 bit causes so much trouble
[06:55] <jhutchins_lt> 'mazing.  They keep working on this stuff and making progress.
[06:55] <jhutchins_lt> joe4288: I know that several months ago there wasn't any such thing.
[06:56] <Tm_T> joe4288: well, I don't have any 64 bit hardware
[06:56] <joe4288> yea so if you guys hear any 1 haveing trouble let them know w64codecs
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> Some of the players like mplayer have stopped using seperate codecs and include their own demux support.
[06:56] <joe4288> well when i built this comp it was the cheapest processor and board i could get
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> That's what I had heard was working, but good to know they've got the codecs now.
[06:56] <joe4288> amd64 4000
[06:57] <joe4288> it quick runs great
[06:57] <Tm_T> joe4288: heh, well, my newest hardware is from 2004 or so
[06:57] <joe4288> (dont have 64 bit windoes so im using 32bit windows)
[06:57] <joe4288> well my old comp was from 02 but that damned dell blow up
[06:58] <joe4288> well thanks every 1 im off
[06:58] <alesan> is there a way to tell syslog to log the messages from a particular process in a separate file?
[06:59] <alesan> I'm running a weather station software and I'd like to keep the logs separated from the system
[07:01] <jhutchins_lt> alesan: That should be something you can configure within the weather station software.
[07:02] <alesan> from what I understand of the syslog system that should be the sys daemon to take care which file he writes what
[07:02] <jhutchins_lt> alesan: At worst it would mean modifying the source code and recompiling, but it might also be a compile time switch.
[07:03] <alesan> I could modify the weather station software but I somewhat doubt I can solve from there
[07:03] <Arwen> DAMN IT
[07:04] <sivaji> hi
[07:04] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: You're scaring the children.
[07:04] <Arwen> sorry
[07:05] <Arwen> just that I realized how many things I have to manually compile since I installed an svn ffmpeg..
[07:05] <jhutchins_lt> Arwen: Heh.  No batch file supplied, eh?
[07:05] <Arwen> heh, dependencies :-\
[07:05] <Arwen> time to recompile mplayer, vlc, and transcode
[07:06] <sivaji> hi
[07:06] <DarlMcBride> Hello, I am Darl McBride.
[07:06] <Arwen> yes, we figured that
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> alesan: It depends on what level/channel of the syslog daemon the program is writing.
[07:06] <Arwen> !hello
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Arwen> ...
[07:06] <Tm_T> !hi
[07:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:06] <savetheWorld> !mutt
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mutt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Tm_T> Arwen: muhahaha
[07:06] <Arwen> Hello, world!
[07:06] <Arwen> hah, beat that
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> !ask
[07:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:06] <Arwen> !bot
[07:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:07] <Arwen> ..where's the abuse factoid?
[07:07] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[07:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:07] <Tm_T> Arwen: fine now?
[07:07] <Arwen> yeah
[07:07] <DarlMcBride> I'm here because #ubuntu banned me. Those ops have no sense of humor.
[07:07] <Arwen> haha
[07:08] <Arwen> same here, actually :-)
  u gone mad
[07:08] <jhutchins_lt> DarlMcBride: Pretty much the same ops.
[07:08] <Arwen> na, Seveas just likes to hold personal grudges... I've been banned for a year now
[07:08] <DarlMcBride> :)
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> using the name "darl mcbride" certainly isn't going to win you any friends :D
[07:09] <alesan> jhutchins_lt, tha syslog call in C should be "syslog" right? I can't grep it in the source
[07:09] <alesan> who is darl mcbride?
[07:10] <DarlMcBride> Well, in #ubuntu I was warning users that they could be sued because Mark Shuttleworth is refusing to partner with Microsoft. Hardly trolling.
[07:10] <DarlMcBride> mc44 had no sense of humor.
[07:10] <Arwen> hah
[07:10] <Tm_T> DarlMcBride: if you have issues with ops, hit #ubuntu-ops but not here thanks
[07:10] <Arwen> of course, since #ubuntu-ops is run by the ops, going there won't solve anything
[07:11] <DarlMcBride> I'l try it.
[07:11] <Tm_T> only way to solve it
[07:11] <Tm_T> this is not the place for that
[07:11] <DarlMcBride> Maybe I can tell them about RMS.
[07:11] <Arwen> DarlMcBride, your IP address is 66.243.207.242! We're coming to find you!
[07:13] <beardbar> i am trying to install programs with adept installer, fresh install of kubuntu, but everything no installed is grayed out and not clickable, how can i fix?
[07:13] <Arwen> beardbar, I'm not too familiar with adept, can you give me a screenshot?
[07:14] <Gunner74> beardbar: Have you tried right-clicking?
[07:14] <beardbar> arwen: ill try to get a screenshot to you
[07:14] <beardbar> gunner: yes, nothing comes up
[07:14] <vlad88> beardbar. did you click on the "ignore" button when opening Adept?
[07:14] <kotelo> :O!
[07:14] <banksey> Hi all, Does Kubuntu come with Cedgea?
[07:15] <Arwen> banksey, no. And it never will.
[07:15] <beardbar> vlad: no i typed in my root pw and hit ok
[07:15] <kouji> hello how do I install kubuntu in ubuntu without the kde apps showing in gnome menu and vice versa?
[07:15] <banksey> @Arwen, LOL Kk, Jus gonna have to bye it then, Ty :)
[07:15] <Arwen> kouji, you don't.
[07:15] <Arwen> !lol | banksey
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <Arwen> ...
[07:15] <Tm_T> banksey: you can always install Cedega separately
[07:16] <kotelo> i just come to this channel to say what i love debian and i am using kubuntu only for the buttons and headphones of my notebook, in my desktop i use debian :)
[07:16] <Arwen> !u | banksey
[07:16] <kotelo> xD
[07:16] <ubotu> banksey: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:16] <kotelo> sorry
[07:16] <kotelo> xD
[07:16] <kotelo> cya
[07:16] <Tm_T> Arwen: please, that's not useful anymore
[07:16] <Arwen> hmm?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> heh.
[07:16] <Tm_T> abusing bot all the time
[07:16] <kotelo> i just come to this channel to say what i love debian and i am using kubuntu only for the buttons and headphones of my notebook, in my desktop i use debian :)
[07:16] <Arwen> kotelo, we already heard you. But that's nice.
[07:17] <savetheWorld> Arwen: also I have to disagree with u about that issue. :-)
[07:17] <dwidmann> poor poor abused bot :P
[07:17] <Arwen> dwidmann, child protective services time?
[07:17] <vlad88> beardbar: is Adept fully loaded?, it takes a while on loading the app database...
[07:18] <Arwen> beardbar, and did you hit the "update" button yet?
[07:18] <Arwen> the first time it loads it should be nice and useless
[07:18] <beardbar> vlad: im pretty sure it is
[07:20] <beardbar> arwen: wheres the update button?
[07:20] <Gunner74> beardbar: new install?
[07:20] <Arwen> never mind, I must not know what I'm talking about.
[07:20] <beardbar> gunner: yes
[07:20] <colonia> Can I share files and printers with a windows system?
[07:21] <colonia> I mean, a windows system letting me use there files
[07:21] <jhutchins_lt> I think a limited use of IM slang works here, but it is an international channel, and communicating clearly does make a difference in how seriously you'll be taken.
[07:21] <kouji> how can I replace the default iconset with a new one? I've changed icon sets but some of them still remain
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> colonia: Yes, it may be easiest to use samba for it.
[07:22] <vlad88> beardbar: there was no warning about other app blocking the database?
[07:23] <beardbar> vlad: im going to restart here but no, basically i click on the add/remove programs from the menu, it asks me to run as root i type in my password: adept loads no other warnings, but i cannot install anything new, everything is grayed out accept those programs that are installed
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> colonia: There's probably something on the wiki about it...
[07:23] <vlad88> beardbar: the update button Arwen talks about is the first on the left,(the one which looks like the refresh button in browsers)
[07:23] <colonia> thanks, Im going to read a bit
[07:24] <beardbar> vlad: thats adept package manager isnt it?
[07:24] <DarlMcBride> Quitting...
[07:24] <kouji> Hello how can I make Nautilus like frame surround the picture thumbnails in konq?
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you want to?
[07:24] <kouji> it looks so much better
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> colonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:25] <timmay> !vnc
[07:25] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:25] <fusiogen> !fr
[07:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:26] <fusiogen> yeah
[07:26] <vlad88> beardbar: yes.
[07:27] <Gunner74> beardbar: try using <system> adept from the menu instead of <add/remove programs>
[07:27] <colonia> Thanks, jhutchins_lt
[07:27] <Daisuke_Ido> kouji: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/getting-started-guide/figs/images/nautilus1.png
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> like that?
[07:28] <Gunner74> beardbar: I've never tried the <add/remove> , I just go to adept directly.
[07:29] <kouji> correct....thats an older version of nautilus I believe, the new one looks so much better :)
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure you can, actually
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i've seen no settings to configure how it deals with thumbnails except for size
[07:31] <kouji> I guess so, though I've seen it done in some screenshots over at kde look....perhaps its a hack of some sort
[07:31] <kouji> thanks for your assistance
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> Might be buried deep in styles, decorations, widgets, etc/
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> kouji: Someone in #kde might know/
[07:41] <epimeth> how would I rename all *.html to just * ?
[07:41] <epimeth> I tried $rename .html '' *
[07:42] <epimeth> but I get a syntax error
[07:43] <killto> has anyone successfully installed a mobility radeon x700 an a laptop (FSC Amilo 1667G)
[07:43] <alesan> kubuntu has syslog or syslog-ng ???
[07:45] <vlad88> alesan: there's Ksystemlog
[07:46] <alesan> vlad88, syslogd -v gives 1.4.1
[07:49] <amnesiac_> hai folks whats up ??
[07:50] <fredrik_> this is funny.. i just installed kubuntu but to become root through su needs a password and I have not set one?
[07:50] <vlad88> fredrik_:
[07:50] <fredrik_> no pass seem to work :P
[07:51] <vlad88> why you need su if you have sudo?
[07:51] <fredrik_> true. so sudo will work?
[07:51] <vlad88> fredrik_:  you can set the root password with "sudo passwd root"
[07:51] <fredrik_> perfect
[07:51] <amnesiac_> sudo passwd root dude
[07:51] <fredrik_> i like to work as root :-)
[07:52] <amnesiac_> never work in he root
[07:52] <amnesiac_> very dangerous
[07:52] <amnesiac_> you need the auth as safety
[07:53] <zenco> hi
[07:53] <fredrik_> :)
[07:53] <amnesiac_> i hack your debian in about " min with ssh when you work in the root
[07:53] <amnesiac_> so not safe
[07:53] <fredrik_> no way
[07:53] <fredrik_> how could it be that easy?
[07:54] <landley> Is anybody else having the problem that Konqueror's "tab scroll left" button is  NOP?
[07:54] <landley> The "scroll tabs right" button works fine, but they won't go back left unless I close tabs.
[07:54] <epimeth> how would I rename all *.html to just * ?
[07:54] <epimeth> I tried $rename .html '' *
[07:54] <epimeth> but I get a syntax error
[07:57] <amnesiac_> when ther is no password for the kernel ther is nothing to crack .that easy thus
[07:58] <landley> Can anyone else scroll konqueror tabs to the left?
[07:58] <amnesiac_> when your working under a suid hackers need the famous rootkit to make entry in the root
[07:58] <landley> (Is there a key sequence or something, for when the button doesn't work?)
[07:59] <landley> Ah, mouse wheel!
[07:59] <landley> Ok, I have a workaround.  It's still a nasty bug which should be fixed, though.
[07:59] <fredrik_> but actually i don't have anything to loose :)
[08:01] <amnesiac_> then you have nothing to fear only your privacy fredrik
[08:03] <amnesiac_> hai greg
[08:04] <snake> hallo
[08:04] <greg_g> hello?
[08:04] <greg_g> forgive me if I know your nickname
[08:04] <amnesiac_> hai snake
[08:05] <Grant> uh, how do I fix the Java issue with Beryl? the windows are blank
[08:08] <CJari> hi, I started of from 7.04 CD but it doesnt detect the wireless atheros networking card
[08:11] <zipper> Can anyone recommend an alternative to KTorrent?
[08:12] <nelson_> why are you looking for an alternative to ktorrent?
[08:12] <Grant> Azereus
[08:17] <zipper> azereus is bloated
[08:17] <zipper> nelson_, ktorrent crashes too often
[08:19] <trakinas> zipper: i used to like bittorrent default gtk client. simple and stable.
[08:20] <zipper> i'll have a look, thanks
[08:21] <SQUALL2> hi .i am new in this channel .can any1 tell me what this channel deal with?
[08:22] <greg_g> as in the topic: Kubuntu Support Channel
[08:23] <SQUALL2> hasan2.are u arabic? if i may ask?
[08:24] <greg_g> this channel seems really quiet for some reason
[08:24] <SQUALL2> i agree
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> cause there is no one looking for help.
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> SQUALL2: do you use Linux?
[08:25] <SQUALL2> no .im not i use windows
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> SQUALL2: are you interested in Linux?
[08:26] <SQUALL2> well .may be .but i cant use it
[08:27] <CJari> what shoud I do when the 7.04 doesn't automatically configure my wireless network card?
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> CJari: configure it manually ;)
[08:27] <CJari> is there a way to find out why the interface is not created, why the drivers are not loaded?
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> CJari: what is your wireless CHIPSET?
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> sorry.. caps
[08:27] <CJari> nosrednaekim : the manual configuration thing doesnt show the card...
[08:28] <SQUALL2> 
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> CJari: I mean manual as in command line :)
[08:28] <CJari> nosrednaekim : I think it's atheros, unless that's just the manufactor
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> CJari: no, thats a chipset manufacturer
[08:28] <BluesKaj> !wirelss | CJari
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirelss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <amnesiac__> atheros is a prismchip i believe
[08:29] <BluesKaj> !wireless | CJari
[08:29] <ubotu> CJari: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> CJari: run "ifconfig" and see if it gives you anything other than eth0 and lo
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> amnesiac__: no, its its own chipset
[08:29] <SQUALL2> hasan2?
[08:29] <amnesiac__> you need ralink workaround to get it working
[08:29] <BluesKaj> !ar
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <nosrednaekim> amnesiac__: no you don't!
[08:30] <CJari> thank you, I have to continue from here tomorrow
[08:30] <SQUALL2> hasan2
[08:31] <amnesiac__> google 2 rtx00 wikipedia for wireless drivers
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> amnesiac__: do you mean working with network manager? or do you mean working with linux?
[08:31] <amnesiac__> i thin kyou need the rt2400 driver from rt
[08:31] <amnesiac__> rtx00
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> amnesiac__: no, atheros is covered by the madwifi driver
[08:32] <amnesiac__> ya right  my fault madwifi
[08:32] <amnesiac__> then ther is no problem i thing support madwifi is very trong
[08:33] <amnesiac__> strong
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> amnesiac__: yeah, its pretty good as long as you don't have a AR5005G
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> (which is what I have)
[08:34] <CJari> thanks everyone
[08:34] <amnesiac__> hahaha i first look at the hardware that debian likes and then i buy it hihihi
[08:34] <CJari> btw, my CD drive is really slow, is it some way to use cache or something?
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> CJari: did you figure it out?
[08:34] <CJari> nosrednaekim : not yet, just going through the docs
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> CJari: you on the liveCD?
[08:35] <CJari> nosrednaekim : well I have the desktop CD, which I thought was the only one
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> CJari: but you're running off the cd? right now?
[08:35] <CJari> nosrednaekim : not right now, its just slow and its on other PC
[08:36] <notlabled> As of default here, knetworkmanager is started because its never closed, and still in my session when i log off. Id like the manager to start before every other program in my session needing network, if i add it to ~/.kde/Autostart/ would it start before the session managed programs?
[08:36] <CJari> *so slow
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> CJari: ah ok.
[08:36] <amnesiac__> greetz to all over and out for now ---gone to eat
[08:38] <BluesKaj> notlabled, I think knetwormanager is on autostart by default and starts before your sessions
[08:38] <K-Ryan> Hey guys my friend can't remember his password on Kubuntu
[08:38] <K-Ryan> I've got him booted on his Live CD right now
[08:38] <K-Ryan> How can we get/change his pass?
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: easy, chroot into the linux partition
[08:39] <K-Ryan> Umm?
[08:39] <notlabled> BluesKaj: it doesnt here, kopete always starts before knetworkmanager im afraid. And kopete throws out a few annoying popup error msgs when starting without network
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, what partition is his linux install on?
[08:39] <K-Ryan> Hold on I don't deal with his laptop often.
[08:39] <emanuele> dsf
[08:41] <emanuele> xcx
[08:42] <Solifugus> Has anyone else experienced various white areas colros throughout the desktop and apps changing to vertical, baby-blue stripes periodically?
[08:42] <Solifugus> I want to know if this is a software or hardware problem..
[08:42] <Solifugus> (without re-installing)
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> Solifugus: your monitor cable plugged in al the way?
[08:42] <Solifugus> It's a laptop
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> Solifugus: sounds like hardware.
[08:43] <Solifugus> Or an issue with X.. maybe..
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> which really sucks on an laptop.
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> not individual apps... not randomly..
[08:43] <Taringa> hello
[08:43] <nostferka> running gaim shuts down after several seconds...
[08:43] <Solifugus> it's only 6 mos old.. but i don't want to loose it for a week, getting repaired
[08:43] <Taringa> cant install kubuntu feisty
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> Solifugus: so does it happen over the whole desktop.just over certain apps?
[08:45] <Taringa> -ve been triying all the morning
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> nostferka: yeah, does that for me too soemtimes
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Taringa: what does it stall on?
[08:45] <Solifugus> nosrednaekim: over the whole desktop.. including Windows XP running in VMware..
[08:45] <Taringa> i downloaded the alternat
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Solifugus: never over individual apps?
[08:45] <Solifugus> nosrednaekim: universal over everything when it kicks in
[08:45] <Taringa> y installs the sistem and it stops in 83%, in the part of installin the nucleo
[08:45] <K-Ryan> nosrednaekim: /dev/hda3
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: mount that..
[08:45] <Solifugus> nosrednaekim: I could try a virtual console to test wether its X..
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Solifugus: yeah..
[08:46] <K-Ryan> its not in fstab
[08:46] <K-Ryan> do i have to put it in there? because thats a pain in the neck =/
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: no...
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: "sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt"
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> then "cd mount"
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> sorry,, "cd /mnt"
[08:47] <Taringa> what can i do?
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> Taringa: does the alternate installer fail as well?
[08:48] <Taringa> yes
[08:48] <K-Ryan> Ok, now how would I go about changing his pass/find it?
[08:48] <Taringa> the livecd fails in the formating part
[08:48] <Taringa> and the alternta fails while installing the kernel
[08:49] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok whoops... do a "cd /"
[08:49] <nosrednaekim> then a "sudo chroot /mnt"
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> now do not close that terminal
[08:50] <unknown> hello, is this normal not to have orthographical correction on konversation?
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: oh I recognize your name now..
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: try a different distribution.
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> like PClinuxOS
[08:51] <estebanbianchi> but i cant download
[08:51] <estebanbianchi> -cause i have no OS in mi pc
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: oh wait, you are trying to install 5.10 aren't you?
[08:52] <estebanbianchi> no 7.04
[08:52] <savetheWorld> Hi all, How do you set hostname on kubuntu (so sendmail is happy) ?
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: find someone who does have an os and get them to DL it for you.
[08:54] <estebanbianchi> yes thats good
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> get them to DL PClinuxOS.... maybe SUSE.
[08:54] <estebanbianchi> the only chance i have is to install the oldo 5.10 to download another distro
[08:54] <K-Ryan> nosrednaekim: Anything?
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: oh sorry.. you ran that chroot command?
[08:54] <K-Ryan> Yeap
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> kinda busy here.. i'm sorry. :)
[08:55] <K-Ryan> It's ok
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Just making sure you didn't forget about me
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> ok, now run "passwd <his username>"
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: smart... err... APT!
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> :)
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Wha?
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: NM..
[08:56] <sivaji_> hello
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: sorry, that passwd command was intended for you
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I know
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, you're done!
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> exit
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Yeah I'm restarting his comp to check now
[08:57] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: that CHroot command is amazing... never forget it!
[08:58] <K-Ryan> I don't plan on it =)
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: you can apt-get... do anything from there.
[08:58] <intelikey> i still haven't discovered why i get that one error message in my boot up text  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37527  line 9
[08:58] <unknown> i try again, is this normal not to have orthographical correction on konversation?
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> you are basically running that installation with the liveCD kernel
[09:01] <banksey> Hey guys, I just installed rar, But its not giving me a option to extract using it? Any ideas?
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> unknown: what is that?
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: wow.. thats odd..
[09:01] <rathel> I forget which file do I edit to switch to the text based login? OR Could someone tell me how I can make the login screen smaller?, It's to big for my monitor.
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> rathel: ctrl+alt+f2
[09:03] <unknown> nosrednaekim look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konversation
[09:03] <K-Ryan> Okay guys, new problem.
[09:04] <K-Ryan> When booting Kubuntu on his laptop, it seems to freeze at the kubuntu logo
[09:04] <Karti> savetheWorld: To change hostname its as simple as sudo hostname callMeBob
[09:04] <teezett> has someone experience with NFS?
[09:04] <intelikey> rathel you remove  'S???dm ' symlink from /etc/rc2.d/  on sysVinit ubuntu    on upstart systems idk.
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: alt+f2
[09:04] <savetheWorld> Karti: Thank you.  I'm actually asking about how you set it permanently so it is set correctly at boot time?
[09:04] <K-Ryan> chris-laptop login:
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> unknown: yeah....?
[09:05] <teezett> i get "not a directory" error messages on the nfs-client
[09:05] <K-Ryan> there seems to be no gui for logging in
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: can you log in from there?
[09:05] <K-Ryan> well i put in the temporary password
[09:05] <michal_> elo
[09:05] <K-Ryan> oh, hold on a sec...
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: and...
[09:05] <K-Ryan> it went to the command line
[09:06] <K-Ryan> no desktop though =/
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[09:07] <kristina_> hi, is there a way to convert a pdf to many jpgs?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: you didn't do anything else in that CHroot did you? besides the changing password?
[09:07] <K-Ryan> "stopping K Display Manager: kdm."
[09:07] <K-Ryan> "Starting " " " " "
[09:07] <K-Ryan> I did nothing else
[09:07] <K-Ryan> at all
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> pop you back to the command line?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> I mean, it completed?
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Yes
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+f7
[09:08] <K-Ryan> Nothing's happening
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> blinking cursor?
[09:08] <K-Ryan> command line with the thing after word
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, back to ctrl+f2
[09:09] <K-Ryan> That didn't make any sense...
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+f2
[09:09] <K-Ryan> Blinking underscore after $
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: wha...
[09:09] <K-Ryan> ctrl+f2 = nada
[09:09] <rathel> Speaking of beryl.. Will I be able to get it to work with my 9700 Pro? lol
[09:09] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, they smell like whistling in the dark
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ctrl+alt+f2 sorry
[09:10] <K-Ryan> (I'm still at the command line)
[09:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj much so
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, somethings screwy with his install...
[09:10] <minty> hey guys any1 use limewire?
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: might want to back up all his files quick.
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> before continuing
[09:10] <K-Ryan> He doesn't have anything on the linux partition
[09:11] <m-lund> Anyone here, who have experienced kvm being very unstable running with hardware accelleration under Ubuntu 7.04?
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Just Kubuntu
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: ok, then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> and then "startx"
[09:11] <intelikey> minty !1 will answer unless U use words in place of code...
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> m-lund: doesn't run at all for me
[09:11] <m-lund> I have installed a 7.04 from CD in a virtual machine, and it keeps crashing - not the same problem with qemu though.
[09:12] <BluesKaj> minty, I tried frostwire for about 5mins , the limewire linux version
[09:12] <minty> hello guys does can anyone help me setting up my limwire
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: !1...lol
[09:12] <BluesKaj> !frostwire
[09:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:12] <intelikey> nosrednaekim reply to any1 you know
[09:13] <BluesKaj> i am not just any1
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> i'm some1
[09:14] <intelikey> ok every1 be haeve now
[09:14] <BluesKaj> !windows
[09:14] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:14] <MaTiAz> :D
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: what happens with a startx?
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> haha
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Well it kind of restarted so one sec
[09:15] <chris_scum> hey you
[09:15] <chris_scum> hi
[09:15] <MaTiAz> My eyes are burning now that I had to boot into Windows, putty is so cruel looking when compared to Konsole with antialiased fonts and a nice flame background
[09:15] <MaTiAz> :\
[09:15] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: it what?
[09:15] <intelikey> hay ewe
[09:15] <chris_scum> i got some trobles with amarok
[09:16] <chris_scum> little ones ;)
[09:16] <K-Ryan> Hold on I put in startx
[09:16] <K-Ryan> xinit:   No such process (errno 3):   Server error.
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: you have to stop kdm first.
[09:16] <K-Ryan> that command was?
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[09:16] <intelikey> chris_scum spell it out
[09:17] <BluesKaj> chris_scum, what troubles ?
[09:17] <chris_scum> with the tags and the covers y'know
[09:17] <K-Ryan> It put me at the Kubuntu logo
[09:17] <chris_scum> amazon works bad!
[09:17] <chris_scum> and i didnt find how to manage them from music brainz
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: startx did?
[09:18] <intelikey> K-Ryan you can switch back to the console and see the error messages
[09:18] <K-Ryan> the kdm stop did
[09:18] <K-Ryan> I'm back there, let me put in startx
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: oh yeah, thats ok
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: of startx crashes, try to get us the last couple a lines
[09:19] <K-Ryan> Same xinit: No such process
[09:19] <minty> now what do i do
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: you sir, have a messed up system.
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:19] <K-Ryan> Should I reinstall Kubuntu?
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: any clue what your freind was doing before he lost is password?
[09:20] <intelikey> who's helping minty with limewire ?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> I don't think he really did anything with it
[09:20] <minty> when i got frost wire wot do i do with binary file?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> After we tried to upgrade him to edgy it didn't really work
[09:20] <intelikey> !frostwire
[09:20] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: hmm... well something got messed up.
[09:20] <K-Ryan> So I'm just going to do a reinstall.
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: yeah.
[09:20] <intelikey> minty  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:21] <BluesKaj> intelikey, i told him about frostwire
[09:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok he/she was asking for more info  maybe you can help there
[09:21] <minty> ya it seys bout the deb file but i cn save it
[09:21] <minty> cant*
[09:22] <banksey_> Hey guys, I jus installed RAR from Adept, And its not giving me the option to extract with it, Any one got any suggestions, Would be much apprcaiated
[09:22] <GameJunkieJim> Hello everyone
[09:23] <GameJunkieJim> Can someone help me if I screwed up something in automatix2?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: not really.
[09:23] <intelikey> banksey_ you can right click and select unrar as the app to open it with ?     note you may need both rar and unrar  (i sujest the free versions)
[09:23] <GameJunkieJim> Oh well.
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> !automatix
[09:23] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:23] <intelikey> !info unrar-free
[09:23] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: what exactly did you do (no garuntee's that is fixable)
[09:24] <GameJunkieJim> I tried to install vmware before I had a valid serial
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: you can always go to #automatix
[09:24] <BluesKaj> intelikey, minty , not really ...i used for about 5 mins and dumped it cuz it didn't work for me ...nothing but porn when i entered song titles
[09:24] <minty> ANY suggestions bluekaj
[09:24] <GameJunkieJim> I just want it to stop trying to install it
[09:24] <BluesKaj> not that I'm against porn now and then :)
[09:24] <minty> :D
[09:24] <fusiogen> !fr
[09:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:25] <intelikey> BluesKaj but that makes you the expert here.  i've not seen it.
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: "sudo killall automatix2
[09:25] <BluesKaj> minty,what form/file type  is the download ?
[09:25] <BluesKaj> the frostwire app itself
[09:25] <minty> preferably  mp3
[09:25] <GameJunkieJim> Thanks nosred
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: that do it?
[09:26] <GameJunkieJim> gonna try
[09:26] <minty> like limewire had a choice on windows like audio and video
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: you can get vmware from the official repositories, no need for automatix
[09:26] <GameJunkieJim> Alright
[09:26] <minty> ooops
[09:26] <GameJunkieJim> The serial kinda borked it up
[09:26] <minty> ****
[09:26] <minty> sorry
[09:26] <minty> erm
[09:26] <GameJunkieJim> It keeps trying to bridge a connection
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> that command didn't do anything?
[09:27] <GameJunkieJim> Not sure
[09:27] <GameJunkieJim> Haven't restarted it yet
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> oh... so it stopped it?
[09:27] <GameJunkieJim> I'm going to go to the package manager and hopefully install from there first
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> GameJunkieJim: yeah.. good idea.
[09:28] <GameJunkieJim> Then hopefully it'll be all done
[09:28] <minty> blues kaj do i wna down load the tarball 1
[09:29] <GameJunkieJim> I'm gonna try to restart it and hope that cures my woes
[09:30] <BluesKaj> no minty, down load it from here http://www.frostwire.com/
[09:30] <minty> ya thats wot im doing
[09:31] <BluesKaj> the .deb file minty
[09:32] <intelikey> bash: man: command not found
[09:32] <intelikey> guess i need to install man
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ok minty , find the file , right click, and choose 'kubuntu package menu', install package
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: haha you don't have MAN?
[09:33] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i don't even have a web browser installed
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: wow... old hardware?
[09:34] <intelikey> old habits
[09:34] <intelikey> :)
[09:35] <intelikey> yeah old hardware too but that's not why
[09:35] <n8k99> diehard3
[09:36] <Lars_G> Say do you think it'd be possible to move feisty to qt 4.3 without recompiling the whole system?
[09:36] <Minataku> Lars_G: With Kubuntu? No.
[09:40] <Lars_G> sigh
[09:40] <Minataku> No major changes are possible without breaking EVERYTHING.
[09:40] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i did this as root    " for q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get -y --purge remove $q ;done "     and went to bed.   cleaned the system out nicely  :)
[09:40] <Minataku> It's the price of simplicity
[09:40] <Lars_G> I wonder if I should move my workstation to gutsy
[09:40] <Minataku> Perhaps you should use a more advanced distro?
[09:40] <intelikey> no un-need/wanted/used junk apps lying around now.
[09:40] <Minataku> That would be the only suggestion
[09:40] <Lars_G> Minataku: I wanted to move to Arch, but I was wary of the whole backup and reinstall process. I have too much data to backup
[09:40] <chris_scum> what to do with bin files
[09:40] <Minataku> Lars_G: You better back them up anyway
[09:40] <Lars_G> Minataku: you know. you're right.
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> Lars_G: besides, Lars_Gkde3 can't use qt4
[09:40] <Minataku> :3
[09:40] <Lars_G> ...
[09:40] <Lars_G> OH FU... I forgot I'm using kde3!! dogh
[09:40] <Lars_G> doh
[09:40] <Lars_G> Doooohhhh
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> heh
[09:40] <Lars_G> Nevermind me
[09:40] <Lars_G> doh
[09:40] <intelikey> !enter
[09:40] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> gentoo is the solution to all the problems one never has.
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[09:40] <Lars_G> nosrednaekim: not really
[09:40] <n8k99> he
[09:40] <BluesKaj> Minataku, does gentoo have hardware recognition "issues" ?
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> Just kidding.
[09:40] <chris_scum> i got a bin file what to do with it
[09:40] <intelikey> nosrednaekim checkmate    :)
[09:40] <Minataku> BluesKaj: No
[09:40] <Minataku> The only one in Gentoo who will have those issues is you
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: if thats "old habits" for PWNED thanx..;)
[09:40] <Minataku> If you don't or misidentify it, it doesn't work
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: and me.
[09:40] <intelikey> :)
[09:40] <Minataku> Otherwise, if it's supported in Linux, it works.
[09:40] <Minataku> Remember. You configure/compile the kernel
[09:41] <BluesKaj> IC Minataku, so you have to have your hardware info ducks in row befor attempting an install ...is that what you mean?
[09:41] <intelikey> Minataku i've never used gentoo  other than apt-get install gentoo   (not the distro)   can one build all their apps as standalones ?
[09:42] <fusiogen> comman fair epour metre les drivers et activer lacceleration 3D?
[09:42] <nosrednaekim> !fr | fusiogen
[09:42] <ubotu> fusiogen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:42] <fusiogen> nooooooooooooooooo
[09:43] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Sort of
[09:43] <Minataku> You can use lspci and such to get some of them in a row DURING install
[09:43] <BluesKaj> right
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: I never could get it working with my ATI card.
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> even with proprietary drivers
[09:43] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> and my brother(big time gentoofan) couldnt figure it out
[09:44] <Gerrit> Hello. The website http://www.linuxpowertop.org/download.php claims: "Currently, PowerTOP is being added by various contributors to the development versions of Debian, Gentoo and Fedora. You can use the online package install tool of your distro (apt-get/emerge/yum/etc) to install PowerTOP on those distributions." However, if I do apt-get install PowerTOP or apt-get install powertop (are package names case-sensitive?), I get no results. Is the website
[09:44] <arek> jest tu ktos z polski?
[09:44] <n8k99> !po
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Probably pre- or post-support
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: it won't work with Ubuntu fiesty
[09:45] <Minataku> Remember, ATI friggin' blows
[09:45] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Why not?
[09:45] <Minataku> !pl
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: yeah I know...
[09:45] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <intelikey> Gerrit yes everything is case sensitive and no this is not debian
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: wrong kernel version
[09:45] <arek> hi , i have question how to install firefox on ubuntu?
[09:45] <Gerrit> Oh, ok.
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> "apt-get install firefox" arek
[09:45] <Gerrit> intelikey: Hm, but it's debian-based. Doesn't that mean I can install debian-packages?
[09:46] <Minataku> No
[09:46] <Minataku> It doesn't
[09:46] <intelikey> Gerrit nope
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: technically yes, but poeertop still won't work.
[09:46] <Gerrit> Ok. So compiling it from source won't help me either.
[09:46] <Gerrit> Thanks for telling me that before I try :)
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: correct
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: I already tried. ;)
[09:46] <Gerrit> Pity though, it seemed cool.
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: you have a laptop?
[09:46] <Gerrit> Yes, I do.
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> you using kubuntu?
[09:47] <Gerrit> Acer TravelMate 4100 widescreen.
[09:47] <Gerrit> Yes, I am. Since Sunday.
[09:47] <intelikey> Gerrit it means that the developers used the debian repos to build this distrubition  not that anything from the debian repos can be installed without breaking all kinds of things.
[09:47] <Gerrit> I am impressed by kubuntu's hardware recognition. It recognised everything except my touchpad.
[09:47] <minty> it dont hav that option
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: I made a wattmeter for kubuntu. interested?
[09:47] <arek> wow, i never knew that linux is so much faster than windows, wow
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> arek: can you tell?
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: and some os's have less overhead
[09:49] <ina> Hello everybody
[09:49] <intelikey> nosrednaekim but you are getting into the latter two points there
[09:50] <arek> just 5 minutes ago i was useing vista...
[09:50] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Yes
[09:50] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: How does it work?
[09:50] <ina> I have a problem with adept and wine
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: its a mod to guidance-power-manager
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> just a second.
[09:50] <Gerrit> Is guidance-power-manager the applet telling me I have 0:49h remaining?
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: yeah
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/making-guidance-power-manager-into-a-wattmeter/
[09:51] <intelikey> in all fairness  the windows kernel is still pretty good at what it does.   i just don't like what it does do...   or doesn't do either for that matter
[09:51] <ina> I treid to uninstall wine
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> I have a standalone wattmeter too if you want more realtime analysis
[09:51] <ina> but it still seems to be installed
[09:51] <intelikey> nosrednaekim link ?
[09:51] <chris_scum> anyone has troubles with konqeror connecting to the net?
[09:52] <Gerrit> Oh, that's a very simple mod, I could have done that myself :)
[09:52] <ina> Adept tells me that a process is working so that I can't change a thing
[09:52] <intelikey> nosrednaekim same page ?
[09:52] <intelikey> :)
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: for what?
[09:52] <intelikey> your app
[09:52] <intelikey> standalone
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah,... its linked off that tutorial
[09:52] <intelikey> !enter | me
[09:52] <ubotu> me: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:52] <Gerrit> That's calculated from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state 'present rate', right?
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you need a lptop.
[09:52] <arek> why my konqueror won't display any pages?
[09:53] <chris_scum> arek same as me
[09:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i have one.
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: actually, its from hal but thats where /proc gets its info from... so yeah
[09:53] <Gerrit> Okay.
[09:53] <arek> what can i do?
[09:53] <chris_scum> i dont know
[09:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim " http://tinyurl.com/24ldjf "
[09:54] <Aattila> Hi! Can somebody send me a link where some older version of Skype can be downloaded?
[09:54] <Gerrit> And what is the kernel feature missing in kubuntu's 2.6.20-16-generic that will make that powertop won't work? Process-specific data on power usage?
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> intelikey:yeah.....
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: tickless kernel
[09:55] <taz_> us
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: intelikey: tell me if they work.
[09:56] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i wont actually test it today prolly
[09:56] <intelikey> i'm not at home right now.
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: no problem... you see me on often enough
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[09:59] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: By the way: I have only /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py, not /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager. But the modification works.
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmmm i'll check that out.
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: my bad... i'd better fix that.
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: it works?
[10:01] <rathel> How do I turn off those large tooltips in the taskbar? I was looking through the appearance section in System Settings but I didn't find where it was.
[10:01] <intelikey> yeah you need .py on   "kdesu kate /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager"
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: yeah
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> fixed, thanks Gerrit
[10:02] <intelikey> rathel right click the taskbar configure
[10:02] <minty> blues kaj u still there
[10:03] <intelikey> BluesKaj your phone is ringing
[10:03] <rathel> intelikey: Aw it's the Mouseover effect, thanks.
[10:03] <minty> lol
[10:03] <rathel> Me too, the KDE one was getting in the way.. lol
[10:03] <intelikey> minty if you use the full nick it highlights and can be set to beep fo the person you address
[10:04] <minty> its 2103 actually lol
[10:04] <BluesKaj> minty, yup , here
[10:04] <minty> wtf
[10:04] <intelikey> or 14:04 or something
[10:04] <minty> i dnt get an optiooon 2 i
[10:04] <minty> extract 3 file into code usr (folder) and anuva 1
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> rathel: lol.
[10:05] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: However, is it technically correct? /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state has present rate 1724 mAh. It says "present voltage: 1 mV" (I don't understand that). But how does it lead to a power of 23 W?
[10:05] <binks> if i have kernel .6.20-9 install would i use 2.6.20 source or should i have 2.6.20-9 source
[10:05] <BluesKaj> minty, did you download the debian/ubuntu version ?
[10:05] <minty> ya
[10:06] <BluesKaj> where's the file located ?
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: I have found /proc to have some odd interpretations. However, I think it is probably correct, especially if you find your estimated battery time to be approximately correct
[10:06] <Gerrit> It tends to be too low.
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: is that with your highest powersavings on?
[10:06] <Gerrit> But how is it calculated?
[10:06] <Gerrit> Yes, it is.
[10:06] <Gerrit> I run at half speed.
[10:06] <salocin> If you are interested in an open source project, and are skilled with linux, come learn more in #salocinlinux
[10:06] <minty> n e idea where it wud go 2?
[10:07] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: lol, i'm doing like 14 watts.
[10:07] <minty> i opens up in ark
[10:07] <minty> n i dunno
[10:07] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: How old is your notebook?
[10:07] <intelikey> A*V=W
[10:07] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: I don't know.... it comes from hal.
[10:08] <minty> lol opps im a retard
[10:08] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: 6 months, turion X2, ATI XPress1100
[10:08] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: I see. Mine is two years old, Intel Pentium M processor, ATI Radeon Mobility 700X.
[10:08] <Gerrit> Acer TravelMate 4100.
[10:08] <BluesKaj> ok minty try again  , find the file , right click, and choose 'kubuntu package menu', choose ' install package"
[10:08] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: and a 14 inch screen which helps
[10:09] <binks> should the linux img (2.6.20-9) be the same as linux source (2.6.20)
[10:09] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Ah, yes. Mine is widescreen.
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmm its probably the graphics.... are you using the proprietary drivers?
[10:09] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: I am now, yes. I was using the opensource ones earlier, but Google Earth was crawling.
[10:09] <BluesKaj> minty, it's almost like windows , it has an installer built into it
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: so is mine.... but your's is probably 15inch
[10:09] <minty> I GOT IT
[10:09] <minty> lol now wot
[10:09] <Gerrit> I have closed some programs and made my screen darker.
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: you can tell the proprietary drivers to underclock your graphics
[10:10] <intelikey> binks as i stand under it the image is compiled from the source of the same subversion   yes.
[10:10] <Gerrit> It's now 18W.
[10:10] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: What does that mean, and what does it involve?
[10:10] <CJari> hi
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: getting better.
[10:10] <Gerrit> Can it do so dynamically?
[10:10] <Kprofthrea1> Is there a place I can find the md5 for checksum after I have downloaded?
[10:10] <Gerrit> I like Google Earth to run smoothly.
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: do a "aticonfig --help | grep powerplay"
[10:10] <Gerrit> Ok.
[10:11] <Gerrit> no output
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> powerplay-->power
[10:11] <intelikey> add -i
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: nah..
[10:11] <Gerrit> POWERplay has hits :)
[10:11] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ah.. ok
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> check if those things reduce your wattage
[10:12] <Gerrit> Hmm, I should hack guidance-power-manager to do that for me
[10:12] <Gerrit> or has someone done that already?
[10:12] <Kprofthrea1> Is there a place I can find the md5 for checksum after I have downloaded?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: that WOULD be terrifically cool..
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: no.
[10:12] <CJari> I'm trying to figure is the wireless network detected using the lshw command, but how while I can see it on the output how can I tell is it ok?
[10:12] <Gerrit> it can't be too difficult
[10:12] <binks> intelikey: so if uname gives me 2.6.20-9 i should have 2.6.20-9 source as i have only 2.6.20 source
[10:12] <Gerrit> and it's just python
[10:12] <intelikey> Kprofthrea1 checksum for what ?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: no, it'd actually be really easy.
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> I know where to put it and everything.
[10:13] <Kprofthreat> For Kubuntu Feisty
[10:13] <intelikey> yes on the dl page
[10:13] <Gerrit> I don't know it yet, but I should be able to find it out soon enough.
[10:13] <anna`> rocco
[10:13] <Gerrit> ANyway, I put my powerstate on 1 (low) now.
[10:13] <Kprofthreat> Thought I checked there.
[10:13] <Gerrit> Thanks for the hint regarding setting the powerstate.
[10:13] <Kprofthreat> Brb
[10:13] <minty> wot do i do now
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: it MIGHT actually do it automatically
[10:13] <Gerrit> I'm now doing 17W.
[10:13] <ph1g> Hello, I am looking for the package that contains the source code for the "regex" library. plain ol posix regex
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: getting lower...
[10:13] <Gerrit> I could hack it at a lower level perhaps
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[10:14] <intelikey> Kprofthreat also of note    "unless you are trubbled about wasting a disk"  there is an option to test this CD at boot time of the cd   that should be ran before using the installer.
[10:15] <Lord_Shadow> anyone had any luck getting prism wlan working on a thinkpad x30?
[10:16] <Lord_Shadow> i was able to get it to work by blacklisting a couple of modules, but I can only connect by 'sudo dhclient wlan1'
[10:17] <Lord_Shadow> not the best solution for a kids laptop...
[10:17] <K-Ryan> What's the easiest way to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[10:17] <Gerrit> turning off my monitor should help considerably.
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: saves me 1.5 watts
[10:17] <Gerrit> Completely turning it off?
[10:17] <Gerrit> How can you read it out :P
[10:17] <Gerrit> I'm at 16W.
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: pop the screen up rel fast and check b4 it updates
[10:18] <Gerrit> But since a TV program that I want to see is about to start, it will go up considerably very soon :D
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> heh
[10:18] <Minataku> Screw powersaving, it's a laptop
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> I use 32 flat out max, CD and HD working...screen on highest, watching HD TV.
[10:18] <Minataku> Run it full-tilt 24/7 like I do
[10:18] <Minataku> genii!
[10:18] <Minataku> LTNS!
[10:19] <Minataku> Where's my stuff? XD
[10:19] <binks> !upgrade | K-Ryan
[10:19] <ubotu> K-Ryan: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: yeah... compile on it while on battery
[10:19] <Minataku> Battery?
[10:19] <genii> Minataku Right here in a big box actually
[10:19] <Minataku> What is this battery thing?
[10:19] <Minataku> genii: Cool :3
[10:19] <K-Ryan> binks: Thanks but I know about that, I just figured I'd ask around
[10:19] <Minataku> My dad will be pissed but he can screw off, I want more computers and computer equipment >:D
[10:19] <genii> intelikey Thanks! Need it!
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: heh.
[10:20] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: It's 27W now :O
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hehe
[10:20] <Minataku> He calls it "junk"... I call him an "ass"
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> eh eh...
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> !language.
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <K-Ryan> !ohno
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy
[10:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:20] <K-Ryan> hmm, what was it...
[10:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah, that one
[10:20] <Minataku> I follow the guidelines set forth by the Federal Communications Commission for broadcast decency
[10:21] <Minataku> I have not broken said guidelines
[10:21] <K-Ryan> This isn't controlled by the FCC
[10:21] <K-Ryan> There are different rules.
[10:21] <MaTiAz> I swear too much :)
[10:21] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: the FCC has the F word in it ya know... little known secret
[10:21] <Minataku> But if there's any hardass guideline you should follow for "family-friendly", it's the FCC's
[10:21] <K-Ryan> And they reserve the right to remove individuals who are a bit too naughty.
[10:21] <Minataku> Yeah, but they don't.
[10:21] <dwidmann> Eureka! "find /home/blackwaltz/Music -name *.ogg -execdir vorbisgain -af {}/*.ogg +"
[10:22] <Minataku> Turn on FOX and prove me wrong.
[10:22] <K-Ryan> I'm talking about the channel
[10:22] <Minataku> You can't, because FOX is still there.
[10:22] <K-Ryan> Listen, we're just saying don't get out of hand.
[10:22] <Minataku> And I'm not
[10:22] <intelikey> Minataku we could hardly care less what the FCC will or wont allow,  please be nice.
[10:22] <Minataku> I said it once and you two got bent out of shape
[10:22] <not-Timmay> i need something free to work with .psd files...gimme yer suggestions :)
[10:22] <Minataku> not-Timmay: GIMP
[10:23] <not-Timmay> *le sigh*
[10:23] <Minataku> It doesn't QUITE work with them
[10:23] <not-Timmay> lol
[10:23] <Minataku> It can load them, but that's it
[10:23] <Minataku> It loads as a single picture
[10:23] <K-Ryan> You said you were following the what the FCC says as if you did nothing wrong.
[10:23] <Minataku> But it can save as them, too
[10:23] <not-Timmay> yea looking for something similar to adobe photoshop
[10:23] <K-Ryan> Now, let's move on.
[10:23] <Minataku> K-Ryan: According to broadcast decency guidelines, I didn't
[10:23] <not-Timmay> it's similar but can't relearn it
[10:23] <K-Ryan> But the rules by which this channel goes are different no matter how similar they may seem.
[10:24] <Minataku> It says "family-friendly", I'm keeping it "family-friendly"
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> not-Timmay: not sure if Krita can do those files but its similar in appearance to PS
[10:24] <K-Ryan> So the broadcast decency guidelines are irrelevent.
[10:24] <dwidmann> not-Timmay: keep in mind that the GIMP can only handle simple PSDs, more complex ones will fail to load properly or just look really crappy.
[10:24] <Minataku> If it can go on US prime-time TV, it's definitely "family-friendly"
[10:24] <not-Timmay> ahh ok thanks
[10:24] <K-Ryan> Just don't swear
[10:24] <Minataku> For a country with so much freedom, the airwaves have very little
[10:24] <daquino> my usb pens dont show up when i plug them in i think my system is setup for usb2 when the hardware is really usb1 or vice versa
[10:25] <K-Ryan> Minataku
[10:25] <Minataku> daquino: They both work fine
[10:25] <Minataku> A USB1.1 hub will connect to USB2 hardware
[10:25] <dwidmann> Minataku: wasn't that freedom somewhat of an illusion? Step out of line with regards to things like free speach and you're definitely in trouble
[10:25] <Minataku> Typically the USB2 hw will downgrade itself
[10:26] <Karti> savetheWorld: If you do it that way it should stay changed ie hostname (as far as I am aware)
[10:26] <daquino> Minataku:  im trying to plugin a pen and when i run dmesg i see no hot plug information
[10:27] <mentoreeee> !german
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:27] <Minataku> daquino: Really, now?
[10:27] <nosrednaekim> see ya'll..... Gerrit, have fun trying to get the lest wattage ;) I gotcha beat!
[10:27] <Minataku> That DOES indicate a problem
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> if you beat me... post on my blog
[10:28] <Minataku> I know USB2 hubs are backwards compatible
[10:28] <daquino> Minataku:  could it be because i booted up the system while it was on a docking station ? the docking station mouse worked finel...
[10:28] <Minataku> A USB1 device works in a USB2 hub (and as stated, vice-versa)
[10:29] <Kprofthreat> The device will just be slower
[10:29] <ziom> elo
[10:29] <Minataku> Indeed
[10:29] <daquino> yes i have a feeling the dock station wacked it out...
[10:30] <Minataku> daquino: Try a different USB device
[10:30] <daquino> i tried to look for a /etc/init/hotplug but ubuntu doesn't seem to have that?
[10:30] <Minataku> Or hub
[10:30] <daquino> i tried 2 usb pens 1 bran new and one older
[10:30] <Minataku> It's possible that one of the two is bad
[10:30] <Minataku> Hm
[10:30] <daquino> it would be /dev/sdb righ t?
[10:30] <AFaith> hello there people
[10:30] <AFaith> anyone from USA in here ?
[10:30] <Minataku> Try the pens in some other USB hub, if possible
[10:30] <daquino> thats another question i have why did ubuntu not choose to use /dev/hd* for hd's ?
[10:30] <daquino> they work fine
[10:30] <Minataku> It's looking like the hub may be bad
[10:31] <Minataku> In that case, the hub could be bad
[10:31] <intelikey> daquino scsi emulation
[10:31] <Minataku> Look at dmesg up in the beginning
[10:31] <Lord_Shadow> daquino: plug a usb mouse into the hub to check it.
[10:31] <AFaith> no americans in here :( ?
[10:31] <Minataku> See if the hub is even recognized
[10:31] <AFaith> i've got a question for you folks
[10:31] <Minataku> AFaith: There are, I am one, but it's a little off topic ATM
[10:31] <pimpin> i have no sound in kubuntu 7.04
[10:32] <AFaith> thats why i've asked that :P to chat more in private :)
[10:32] <Minataku> daquino: Do what Lord_Shadow said, try a USB mouse in the hub
[10:32] <crimsun> pimpin: read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page.
[10:32] <Minataku> If that doesn't work, you have bad hardware
[10:32] <illmortal> Anyone here use Adesklets? I'm having a problem with the SystemMonitor adesklet! Please help!
[10:33] <Lord_Shadow> Minataku: I think that that is the easiest way to check usb functionality...  If it works, he is just having a mounting issue...
[10:33] <Lord_Shadow> with his memory stick
[10:33] <daquino> hey the hardware runs fine in windows
[10:33] <daquino> Lord_Shadow:  dmesg shows nothing
[10:34] <intelikey> Lord_Shadow and if it doesn't work...   maybe hardware, but even more likely misconfiguration issue kernel side ?
[10:34] <daquino> actually i think its from hibernating i think my usb mouse didn't work either ihad to reboot
[10:34] <K-Ryan> I'm trying to upgrade my friend's laptop to edgy, now apparantly I HAVE to do it through apt-get
[10:34] <Lord_Shadow> daquino: that's why we suspected a hardware problem... if it is working in windows, that rules out hardware.
[10:34] <pimpin> what can i do?
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Is there no easier way?
[10:34] <daquino> what service is actually scanning the hardware at boot in debian ?
[10:34] <Minataku> The kernel
[10:34] <daquino> what ?
[10:34] <Minataku> The kernel does everything hardware
[10:35] <daquino> yea but you can load modules on your own
[10:35] <daquino> like a hotplug script or something ?
[10:35] <Minataku> I believe there may be a helper app called "coldplug"
[10:35] <Minataku> Unless this distro doesn't use that
[10:35] <Lord_Shadow> try 'lsmod | grep usb'
[10:35] <intelikey> daquino it's all in the initramfs.img    that's where all your hardware is (normally) setup in *buntu based systems.
[10:36] <daquino> wtf ?
[10:36] <pimpin> anyone?
[10:36] <daquino> thats retarded
[10:36] <Minataku> The initrd has all the modules in it
[10:36] <daquino> initrd is used to get the hd drivers up then the system should do the rest
[10:36] <Minataku> Well, the critical ones, at the very least
[10:36] <intelikey> daquino i quite agree,  but it doesn't change it.
[10:36] <Minataku> Which is why I hate binary kernels
[10:37] <Minataku> I compile my own kernels as a Gentoo user
[10:37] <crimsun> I love how I just gave pimpin instructions that he totally ignored and proceeded to assume no one wanted to help him.
[10:37] <Minataku> No initrd/initramfs
[10:37] <daquino> this makes no sense.... so the initrd system loads all my modules ?
[10:37] <daquino> crimsun:  you tlaking to me ?
[10:37] <Minataku> daquino: The initrd is just a storage space
[10:37] <Minataku> It's not a program or anything
[10:37] <crimsun> daquino: no, I made an observation about someone who /parted.
[10:38] <intelikey> crimsun yeah,  but like it's said "never assume malus for what stupidity can explain"   maybe he just didn't see it.
[10:39] <Minataku> intelikey: Gee, you weren't that quick to defend me at all
[10:39] <Minataku> Love the double-standard thing
[10:39] <Minataku> Don't see enough of that EVERYWHERE
[10:39] <intelikey> someone said they were ignoring me too
[10:39] <brunatos> hie everyone i got a dualscreen prob, nvidia see well the second screen but it stay black
[10:39] <Minataku> intelikey: Everything but channel
[10:39] <Minataku> Not my fault if you misinterpret
[10:40] <K-Ryan> Minataku: Why are you out to get people?
[10:40] <Minataku> K-Ryan: I was the victim of a character attack in PM by intelikey
[10:40] <intelikey> K-Ryan i pushed his buttons a while ago.   the truth hurts.
[10:40] <Minataku> I don't take crap without dealing it back
[10:41] <K-Ryan> Minataku: This is the internet, be prepared for it, do not take it seriously
[10:41] <BluesKaj> crimsun, we had one of those here yesterday too .. llutz thought he was a troll ..a know it all who asked questions about wm and proceded to tell those helping that it wasn't suppoed towork that way
[10:41] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Internet or not, human interactions elicit human emotions
[10:41] <daquino> i love how the system just crashes
[10:41] <daquino> anyway now its working after a reboot
[10:41] <Minataku> Just because there's an interim medium in between doesn't mean that it's all completely meaningless
[10:41] <daquino> so your saying there is no way to rerun whatever ubuntu uses to detect hardware without a reboot ?
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Minataku: Yes, it is meaningless
[10:42] <Minataku> Words can hurt, no matter how they're transmitted to the recieving party
[10:42] <K-Ryan> Minataku: Perhaps certain words can, but this is a petty fight/
[10:42] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Clearly you have no grasp over the role of technology in psychology.
[10:42] <daquino> i love how i told the desktop to not display devices... but yet it still does...
[10:42] <K-Ryan> No it's just as an avid gamer I realize that the other party can't mean any of it.
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Therefore it's crap
[10:43] <Minataku> By your logic, one should never get mad at anyone on the telephone
[10:43] <K-Ryan> No, telephone you may know the other person
[10:43] <K-Ryan> This is the internet
[10:43] <Minataku> Because it's just analog data digitized, sent along some wires and reconverted at the other end
[10:43] <K-Ryan> Except with a phone you usually know who's on the other end
[10:43] <Minataku> Angry trash talk in a game IS meaningless
[10:43] <K-Ryan> What's the difference here?
[10:44] <Minataku> K-Ryan: This isn't an exciting, thought-requiring game
[10:44] <Minataku> More thought is gone into words than typing
[10:44] <Minataku> Whereas in a game more thought is put into playing than the words
[10:44] <BluesKaj> we get know each other somewhat here ...it's cyber but it's oranocyber :)
[10:45] <K-Ryan> Thought or no thought, this "trashtalk" is meaningless
[10:45] <BluesKaj> organocyber
[10:45] <K-Ryan> Do you know me or intelikey?
[10:45] <Minataku> You'll blurt out something in a game without meaning it because it comes out on a spur-of-the-moment impule
[10:45] <K-Ryan> No, so why should you care what we say?
[10:45] <tripp> !it
[10:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:45] <chris__> hey
[10:45] <K-Ryan> Hi there chris__
[10:45] <chris__> whst happening k-ryan?
[10:45] <Minataku> One does not have to know someone personally and in real life to bond with them
[10:46] <K-Ryan> It's not a matter of bonding.
[10:46] <Minataku> You seem to think that real life is the only way connections are made
[10:46] <chris__> i just installed kubuntu 7.04 today so im new at this lmfao
[10:46] <K-Ryan> Real life is the only way true connections are made
[10:46] <K-Ryan> So don't take the internet serious
[10:46] <BluesKaj> in this small space one gets impressions from the way ppl express themselves , yes K-Ryan
[10:46] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Again, by your logic, in this case, one cannot have online friends
[10:46] <K-Ryan> chris__: What's the problem?
[10:46] <chris__> true
[10:47] <Minataku> Because it is impossible to make friends online because, as you put it, "it's the internet"
[10:47] <intelikey> with channel junk,  just like i saw it.
[10:47] <chris__> trying to download thunderbird using terman and it will not let me
[10:47] <Minataku> Electronic communication or not, there is a lot of psychological phoenonema involved
[10:47] <chris__> **termal
[10:47] <K-Ryan> Minataku: Don't beat around the bush, the point is don't get angry at what you either no is NOT true or what is not to be taken seriously.
[10:47] <arek> hi, i have downloaded firefox, now how to install it?
[10:47] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Except this WAS meant to be taken seriously
[10:47] <intelikey> chris__ error message ?
[10:48] <K-Ryan> How can you be so sure?
[10:48] <chris__> hold on a min
[10:48] <Minataku> It was delivered in a deliberate and thought-out manner, with seriousness implied
[10:48] <K-Ryan> Implied?
[10:48] <Minataku> It was not a "YO MAMA" after getting fragged
[10:48] <K-Ryan> You know what, forget it
[10:48] <K-Ryan> This is going no where and you obviously don't see what I'm getting at.
[10:48] <daquino> aren't you guys upset how the new eye candy doesn't support kde integration
[10:48] <chris__> E: Package thunderbird has no installation candidat
[10:48] <chris__> thats the error message that im getting
[10:48] <Minataku> K-Ryan: No, you obviously don't see what _I_ am getting at
[10:49] <arek> hi, i have downloaded firefox, now how to install it?
[10:49] <intelikey> chris__ what does   lsb_release -a tell you ?
[10:49] <chris__> go
[10:49] <chris__> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:49] <Minataku> And rather than trying, you're going to just give up because you refuse to see the point I'm trying to make in refuting yours
[10:49] <K-Ryan> arek: You don't need an installer file.
[10:49] <chris__> then go yes when it askes you if you want firefox
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> arek: that's not howoneusually does thingsin kubuntu. Load Adet from the K menu and use that to instlsoftware
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> *Adept
[10:49] <K-Ryan> Minataku: I don't know how else to explain it. And I don't need to convince you otherwise so yes, I am giving up.
[10:49] <Minataku> K-Ryan: I bet you're a bit upset right now, aren't you?
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> arek: Adept will prent you with a searchable list of software and allow you to pick applications to install
[10:50] <K-Ryan> Why would I be upset? I fully realize this is the internet.
[10:50] <Minataku> No doubt you're feeling at least a tiny bit of emotion.
[10:50] <K-Ryan> None
[10:50] <chris__> E: Package thunderbird has no installation candidat
[10:50] <Minataku> You're lying.
[10:50] <intelikey> Minataku drop it.    he already said it's over.
[10:50] <K-Ryan> If anything I think it's humorous.
[10:50] <arek> firefox has no installation candidat
[10:50] <chris__> is their thunderbird for linux?
[10:50] <K-Ryan> Yes chris__
[10:51] <chris__> it should i downloaded it liek 10 mins ago
[10:51] <Minataku> You seem to assume this is a meaningless argument, where you're merely arguing for argument's sake, which would explain why you're giving up.
[10:51] <intelikey> chris__ you didn't tell me what version your were running
[10:51] <Minataku> I'm arguing with seriousness, as if this were an intellectual discussion.
[10:51] <K-Ryan> It IS a meaningless arguement, it is a matter of opinions.
[10:51] <jeroen__> Hi
[10:51] <K-Ryan> Hi there jeroen__
[10:51] <chris__> intellikely - you mean what kubuntu verson?
[10:52] <chris__> 7.04
[10:52] <_StefanS_> anyone have experience with eSata ?
[10:52] <jeroen__> K-Ryan: Can you help me? I need to change my res. to 1024 x7...
[10:52] <arek> i have thesame problem
[10:52] <intelikey> chris__ yes thank you.
[10:52] <K-Ryan> Sure thing jeroen__
[10:52] <intelikey> !thunderbird
[10:52] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[10:52] <_StefanS_> I just bought a 5-disk DAS without knowing how it works :D
[10:52] <Minataku> Sorry to hear you think that, I'll remember that it's impossible to get into a legitimate discussion with you, K-Ryan... on the "internet", anyway
[10:52] <Minataku> !xrandr jeroen__
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr jeroen__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <intelikey> !info thunderbird
[10:52] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:52] <Minataku> Er
[10:52] <Minataku> !xrandr | jeroen__
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <Minataku> ...
[10:52] <Minataku> What the hell
[10:53] <K-Ryan> jeroen__ Here's what you're going to need to do. Click the K Menu button then click System Settings.
[10:53] <jeroen__> ok
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Once there click Monitor & Display
[10:53] <chris__> intel - 2.0.0.4
[10:53] <chris__> the newest one
[10:53] <jeroen__> ok
[10:53] <trakinas> Minataku: bots are never useful when we really need them.
[10:53] <chris__> is the one that i want
[10:53] <chris__> to have lol
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Can you slide the slider to 1024x768?
[10:53] <Minataku> trakinas: Tell me about it
[10:53] <jeroen__> no
[10:54] <fusiogen_> re planter :s
[10:54] <intelikey> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[10:54] <K-Ryan> What's the max?
[10:54] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB
[10:54] <crimsun> Minataku et al., please take offtopic observations/discussions to the appropriate channel, thanks.
[10:54] <Minataku> Sorry, everyone, for attempting to have a legitimate discussion with someone who was never taking it seriously
[10:54] <jeroen__> 800x600
[10:54] <K-Ryan> You have an Ati graphics card?
[10:54] <jeroen__> no
[10:54] <K-Ryan> Oh alright, just curious.
[10:54] <jeroen__> nvidia mx 400
[10:54] <intelikey> chris__ it's mozilla-thunderbird
[10:55] <Minataku> intelikey: Sorry for the rude comment in PM... and any others after that
[10:55] <chris_scum> ???
[10:55] <K-Ryan> I'm unfamiliar with that card but you're sure it supports 1024x768 right?
[10:55] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Apologies to you as well
[10:55] <matti_> Having problems to use ./config at Kubuntu ? ... Do I need to change to root user or why I can't manage to build KMyMoney ?
[10:55] <chris_scum> oh ok
[10:55] <arek> ok thann back to windows...
[10:55] <chris_scum> chris__ is my name often
[10:55] <illmortal> Hey guys how do I check my temperature of my processor through Terminal?!
[10:55] <K-Ryan> Minataku: You're making it out to be way more than it was...
[10:55] <chris__> well its my name now lmfao
[10:55] <Minataku> illmortal: /proc/acpi
[10:55] <chris__> lol
[10:55] <intelikey> Minataku don't worry about it.  i'm not bothered by it.
[10:55] <chris__> sorry i just had tyo day that
[10:55] <Minataku> In there somewhere
[10:55] <K-Ryan> To me it was meaningless text
[10:55] <Minataku> On my system, it's under /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[10:56] <K-Ryan> !resolution
[10:56] <K-Ryan> ubotu?
[10:56] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Either way, it wasn't to me, so I apologize for it nonetheless :)
[10:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:56] <chris__> oh okay intel thakns
[10:56] <Minataku> illmortal: Just cat that file if you have it
[10:56] <intelikey> chris__ welcome
[10:56] <Minataku> If you don't, it's either something different or not there
[10:57] <K-Ryan> jeroen__: I can't remember the exact method so you're going to need someone else in here, sorry.
[10:57] <Assid> heya
[10:57] <K-Ryan> Hi Assid
[10:57] <jeroen__> K-Ryan: ok np
[10:57] <Assid> every time i run krfb .. i getr these X: error invalid of uninitialized input device 169
[10:57] <K-Ryan> If someone familiar with adding custom resolutions could help jeroen__ out it would be great.
[10:58] <daquino> guys why cant i start up another x session using xinit its telling me i dont have permission ?
[10:58] <Minataku> It'll be a modeline in xorg.conf
[10:58] <trakinas> gtg
[10:58] <trakinas> ttyl
[10:58] <Minataku> I have to go too
[10:58] <trakinas> *ttyl
[10:58] <chris__> so whats every been up too?;
[10:58] <Minataku> Dinnertime
[10:59] <K-Ryan> jeroen__: Try going to google and typing in "modeline" then click I'm feeling lucky
[10:59] <K-Ryan> That should help for now
[10:59] <fusiogen_> vive la fance :)
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Once you're done with that coem back here.
[11:00] <K-Ryan> *come
[11:02] <romudog> hiii
[11:02] <romudog> hey
[11:03] <RandMC_> I'm new at Installing from the command line can someone help me.
[11:04] <arafat_> RandMC_: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[11:04] <RandMC_> Thanks i will try it.
[11:05] <daquino> what are usb device files called now ?
[11:05] <daquino> does no one know what file i can use to mount a usb pen ?
[11:05] <Languid> Couldn't find any documentation for Adept Updater -- what is the difference between "Request Removal" and "Request Purging"?
[11:06] <intelikey> RandMC_ you can get <packagename> via apt-cache search <string>  ( maybe add  | less   to the end so you can search throught long output if needed)
[11:06] <arafat> Languid: i guess "purging" removes all your according config files as well
[11:07] <chris__> !perl
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <intelikey> apt-cache search vlc     for example      or maybe   apt-cache search web browser | less
[11:07] <chris__> !pearl
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pearl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <intelikey> !find perl
[11:07] <ubotu> Found: eperl, libapache2-mod-perl2, libapache2-mod-perl2-dev, libapache2-mod-perl2-doc, libappconfig-perl (and 1204 others)
[11:07] <Languid> arafat: thanks -- know of any documentation for Adept?
[11:08] <intelikey> !info perl
[11:08] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-7build1 (feisty), package size 3308 kB, installed size 11440 kB
[11:08] <chris__> thakns....
[11:08] <chris__> :P
[11:08] <chris__> lol
[11:08] <RandMC_> I tried it but it is a package not on the repositories called celtx
[11:08] <chris__> told you that im new at this
[11:08] <intelikey> !bot > chris__
[11:08] <chris__> what dose that do?
[11:09] <chris__> !bot
[11:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:09] <intelikey> check your messages   other tabs
[11:10] <intelikey> opened you a pm for the bot so you can talk dirrectly with ubotu and not bother the channel chris__
[11:10] <RandMC_> I downloaded a package from the program website, How do I install it?
[11:10] <intelikey> RandMC_ what format package ?
[11:10] <RandMC_> tar.gz
[11:10] <intelikey> !b-e | RandMC_
[11:10] <ubotu> RandMC_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:11] <matti_> Trying configure KMyMoney but I get (( configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH )) .. any help on this one ??
[11:11] <daquino> its pretty annoying how this thing mounts my dam usb pen when i plug it in even after i cliked "do nothing"
[11:11] <K-Ryan> by "do nothing" it means don't open a folder or attempt to run the files
[11:11] <RandMC_> Thanks.
[11:11] <K-Ryan> it will still mount it
[11:11] <MaTiAz> matti_: Install GCC & stuff, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:11] <intelikey> matti_ install build-essential as per ubotu message above
[11:12] <MaTiAz> !repositories
[11:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:12] <bigmoe> then  have to make the link
[11:12] <fusiogen_> byby all bonne soiree
[11:13] <chris__> hey
[11:13] <tinin> Please, does anyone knows if there is a program to configure xserver-xorg? I get an error in the kdm login screen about resolution