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| ToHellWithGA | compiz went kinda weird after updating today. i can't get a cube or wobbly windows. and while the windows are decorated, i cannot grab them anywhere with the mouse or right click and select move. they just stay stationary | 12:57 |
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| crimsun | Welcome to Ubuntu Gutsy. Please enjoy the ride. | 12:58 |
| ToHellWithGA | gee, thanks crimsun | 12:59 |
| ToHellWithGA | i just have no idea how to file such a bug | 12:59 |
| ToHellWithGA | since compiz is, to me, pretty much worthless | 12:59 |
| ToHellWithGA | just eye candy | 12:59 |
| crimsun | well, we did just get a new git snapshot | 01:00 |
| ToHellWithGA | that's cool | 01:00 |
| dotpavan | ToHellWithGA, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/ | 01:00 |
| ToHellWithGA | gutsy has been (/me looks around) stable enough for me | 01:01 |
| ToHellWithGA | dotpavan: not in the "how to file a bug" sense so much as "is it worth filing" sense | 01:01 |
| ToHellWithGA | my bug search fu is weak. i filed a duplicate for the first time the other day. but i know how at least | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | if you dont file bug report you are relying on other people to and that is not good as most dont care enough to file them so issue doesnt get fixed | 01:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | very well then gnomefreak. i'll do a "bug ####" in here so you can double check my work ;) | 01:09 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: i wont be here long and if its compiz merge that is giving you issues than they need to worry about it | 01:09 |
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| === DanaG still needs to file that bug on borked brightness control. | ||
| ToHellWithGA | gnomefreak: just for sanity's sake, i think i'm going to delete all of my ~/.* so i can be sure it isn't a problem related to my settings | 01:26 |
| ToHellWithGA | i'd hate to report a bug that is just a result of problems compounding through a dist-upgrade | 01:27 |
| DanaG | Don't delete, | 01:29 |
| DanaG | just make a new user. | 01:29 |
| ToHellWithGA | ooh, good idea | 01:29 |
| ToHellWithGA | i never even think of users on this machine as i'm the sole user and have autologin enabled | 01:30 |
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| jkimball4 | Is anyone else experience poor graphics performance on Intel graphics with all updates installed? | 02:21 |
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| DanaG | Oh, to file the bug about brightness control: what package would I attach it to? | 03:23 |
| DanaG | It applies to both the kernel and HAL. | 03:23 |
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| Toma- | Is it easy enough to get a scanner added to the udev/libsane.rules | 04:25 |
| Toma- | ? | 04:25 |
| shirish | ok guys, any wubi experts here or any irc chat room for wubi specifically somebody knows? | 04:26 |
| Toma- | isnt wubi a non-official non-gutsy thing? | 04:27 |
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| alex_mayorga | hi, anyone can give a quick diagnose of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/121111 | 04:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121111 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Tribe 1 CD don't load on Dell Inspiron 1501" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 04:31 |
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| alex_mayorga | I have the "patient" right in front of me | 04:32 |
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| Toma- | woops | 04:33 |
| Toma- | try 'nosmp' | 04:33 |
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| shirish | Toma-: dunno, but I might try the same at a friend's place | 04:33 |
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| alex_mayorga | Toma, 'nosmp' for me? | 04:36 |
| Toma- | yes | 04:36 |
| alex_mayorga | trying | 04:36 |
| alex_mayorga | do I keep the 'noapic nolapic' as well? | 04:36 |
| Toma- | might awell | 04:36 |
| alex_mayorga | OK, be back in a sec | 04:36 |
| Toma- | !find librsvg2 gutsy | 04:38 |
| ubotu | Found: librsvg2-2, librsvg2-bin, librsvg2-common, librsvg2-dev, librsvg2.0-cil (and 2 others) | 04:38 |
| Toma- | !info librsvg2-2 | 04:38 |
| ubotu | librsvg2-2: SAX-based renderer library for SVG files (runtime). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-2 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 296 kB | 04:38 |
| Toma- | yay! | 04:38 |
| shirish | Toma:- actually have a friend who wants to install wubi+ feisty on a windows machine, do you know any specific wubi channel ? | 04:38 |
| Toma- | shirish: might want to try #debian | 04:39 |
| shirish | Toma-: wubi is a debian product ? | 04:39 |
| Toma- | shirish: it began life as a debian insaller | 04:40 |
| Toma- | wubi forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234 | 04:40 |
| shirish | Toma: thanx had no idea | 04:40 |
| Toma- | np | 04:41 |
| Toma- | wanna fix my scanner? :D | 04:41 |
| alex_mayorga | Toma, it drop me at an (initramfs) promt now | 04:41 |
| Toma- | alex_mayorga: wow. | 04:41 |
| alex_mayorga | do I update the bugger or is this a known thing? | 04:41 |
| Toma- | alex_mayorga: no idea. Start a bug, and keep adding info to it as you go | 04:42 |
| Toma- | hopefully someone picks it up on triage | 04:42 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: you could write about it in the gutsy development forum | 04:43 |
| alex_mayorga | shirish, I'll try that as well | 04:44 |
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| shirish | alex_mayorga: if you do file a bug, mention in that post as well | 04:46 |
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| alex_mayorga | shirish, have you seen the same? in that case you might confirm my bug # 121111 | 04:50 |
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| shirish | alex_mayorga: sorry I don't have a scanner | 04:51 |
| Toma- | ... | 04:51 |
| Toma- | :P | 04:51 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: I was merely trying to be helpful | 04:51 |
| Toma- | i have a scanner... alex_mayorga has a buggy mobo bus | 04:51 |
| alex_mayorga | thanks to the two of you | 04:51 |
| Toma- | alex_mayorga: no problem. | 04:51 |
| Toma- | im out. cyas | 04:51 |
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| === shirish wish I had a scanner | ||
| === shirish wishes he had a scanner | ||
| alex_mayorga | back to windoze then :( | 04:53 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: wish DanaG and/or Sarah Hobbsee was here, they would have been able to help you a lot more | 04:53 |
| shirish | both are extremely professional people having lot of know-how | 04:55 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: perhaps you can check the IRC some other time | 04:55 |
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| shirish | alex_mayorga: you had issue with your scanner or with the mobo ? | 04:55 |
| BotLobsta | hello | 04:55 |
| BotLobsta | does anyone know if ctrl-alt-backspace is now supposed to restart your machine instead of restarting X? Or is that a bug? | 04:56 |
| DanaG | Oh, I'm here but not paying attention. | 04:58 |
| DanaG | But I haven't used scanners at all. | 04:58 |
| shirish | ah , the pricess | 04:58 |
| === shirish bows down to DanaG | ||
| shirish | the bowing down is japanese style | 04:59 |
| alex_mayorga | mobo I guess | 04:59 |
| shirish | although /me is indian | 04:59 |
| shirish | although /shirish is indian | 04:59 |
| shirish | :) | 04:59 |
| alex_mayorga | given the thing wont boot with tribe 1 live CD | 04:59 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: which mobo it is? | 04:59 |
| === alex_mayorga is Mexican | ||
| DanaG | Actually, I'm a guy. | 05:00 |
| === DanaG wishes he knew Japanese. | ||
| shirish | DanaG: my apologies then | 05:00 |
| shirish | same here | 05:00 |
| DanaG | The Input Methods under Linux are cool, but useless if you don't know what you're typing. :( | 05:00 |
| shirish | I had seen some nice oldie japanese movies, although with subtitles only | 05:00 |
| shirish | DanaG: what dou mean DanaG? " The input Methods under Linux are cool, but useless if you don't know what you're typing" | 05:01 |
| shirish | a generalization or something specific? | 05:01 |
| === shirish is over the moon with gutsy | ||
| DanaG | SCIM Input Method. | 05:02 |
| DanaG | Oh, and look, a random string of Arabic: | 05:02 |
| DanaG | eevcveecvcvcve | 05:02 |
| shirish | wow | 05:02 |
| DanaG | That was me randomly hitting the keyboard. | 05:02 |
| shirish | you know arabic ? | 05:02 |
| DanaG | Nope. | 05:03 |
| DanaG | Hence "random". | 05:03 |
| shirish | then how did you get that? | 05:03 |
| shirish | that's cool | 05:03 |
| DanaG | What IRC program are you using? | 05:03 |
| shirish | pidgin | 05:03 |
| DanaG | If it's something GTK, right-click in the input box and select Input Method -> SCIM Input Method. | 05:03 |
| DanaG | (oh, you responded while I was typing.) | 05:04 |
| shirish | ok cool | 05:04 |
| DanaG | Then select languages. | 05:04 |
| DanaG | Another cool one: Other:Latex. | 05:04 |
| alex_mayorga | shirish, I don't know my mobo, trying to revive the laptop to windows and maybe the Dell site would tell me more | 05:04 |
| DanaG | 05:05 | |
| shirish | nope, didn't work lemme try again | 05:05 |
| DanaG | \lll: \ggg: | 05:05 |
| shirish | nope not getting anywhere | 05:06 |
| shirish | alex_mayorga: wish I could help u m8 but no idea about laptops | 05:06 |
| johnnybuoy | oo!!! ' | 05:06 |
| BotLobsta | i dont have that input option | 05:06 |
| johnnybuoy | hah, I didn't know that this scim input would make a thing in the pane pop up | 05:07 |
| johnnybuoy | fun :) | 05:07 |
| shirish | damn | 05:07 |
| shirish | all you guys are getting it except me | 05:07 |
| BotLobsta | and me | 05:07 |
| shirish | ah atleast I have a neighbour who has the same issue | 05:08 |
| shirish | DanaG: by any chance it wouldn't be that you have 2.0.2 installed from sources ? | 05:09 |
| DanaG | Nope, packaged version. | 05:09 |
| DanaG | Maybe scim isn't installed properly. | 05:10 |
| DanaG | Look around in synaptic or aptitude. | 05:10 |
| BotLobsta | anyone know where to report bugs for the x server | 05:10 |
| BotLobsta | scim wasnt installed at all for me | 05:11 |
| crimsun | BotLobsta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+filebug | 05:11 |
| BotLobsta | thanks | 05:11 |
| shirish | BotLobsta: which pidgin version do you hav | 05:12 |
| BotLobsta | i dont | 05:12 |
| BotLobsta | im running xchat | 05:12 |
| BotLobsta | i looked at pidgin and hated it so i dont upgrade that package | 05:12 |
| shirish | as DanaG said, look for scim in aptitude | 05:12 |
| shirish | DanaG: never really knew what scim was all about, now I know | 05:13 |
| shirish | thanx to you | 05:13 |
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| BotLobsta | anyone know why a sigterm to the x server would cause the entire machine to get a sigterm? | 05:19 |
| crimsun | "the entire machine"? | 05:19 |
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| songwind | Good evening. | 05:20 |
| crimsun | songwind: remember, this channel is specific to gutsy. | 05:20 |
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| BotLobsta | as in everything else | 05:20 |
| BotLobsta | the machine rebooted | 05:20 |
| crimsun | so sending TERM to X.Org reboots the machine? | 05:21 |
| BotLobsta | i pressed ctrl-alt-backspace and the machine rebooted | 05:22 |
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| crimsun | and this is using which X driver? | 05:23 |
| BotLobsta | nvidia | 05:23 |
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| BotLobsta | it appears to reboot X, i get a logon screen, but as soon as i "logon", it crashes | 05:24 |
| crimsun | BotLobsta: can you reproduce the crash using 'nv' instead of 'nvidia'? | 05:24 |
| BotLobsta | idk, i havent tried. idk even if my 'nv' drivers work to begin with | 05:25 |
| BotLobsta | ill try, brb hopefully | 05:27 |
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| BotLobsta | well, that was interesting | 05:34 |
| BotLobsta | it doesnt do it at all anymore, though ive had it happen to be before | 05:35 |
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| shirish | ubotu google earth | 07:08 |
| ubotu | Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository | 07:08 |
| shirish | ubotu Medibuntu | 07:09 |
| ubotu | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 07:09 |
| shirish | guys can we have medibuntu with gutsy? | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | .... | 07:11 |
| shirish | hi Hobbsee: sorry for the other day | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | dude..... | 07:12 |
| shirish | anyway, what do you think about google earth for gutsy | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | i dont think i should even bother commenting - as doing so, i may well break the COC. | 07:13 |
| === DanaG uses Ogg for all his CD ripping, | ||
| shirish | you can always send me a private mail, in case you think I did something with malafide intention | 07:14 |
| DanaG | despite the fact that it decreases battery life of my iAudio6. | 07:14 |
| shirish | DanaG: its not for music | 07:14 |
| shirish | DanaG: I need google earth | 07:14 |
| DanaG | But I wonder if the nonfree MP3 decoder sounds any different from the default "ugly" one. | 07:15 |
| shirish | and ubotu says it is only available via medibuntu | 07:15 |
| shirish | I have had the same question myself, might as well as ask in the forum sometime | 07:15 |
| shirish | the difference between 'ugly' ones as well as the medibuntu repository | 07:15 |
| DanaG | My iAudio6 can play WAV, MP3, WMA, Ogg (Vorbis), and FLAC, | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | it probably fits multiverse, actually, so the latter question *might* not be so moronic. | 07:17 |
| DanaG | but ironically, not AAC. | 07:17 |
| shirish | AAC is some kind of encryption IIRC | 07:17 |
| DanaG | I mean, even unprotected AAC. | 07:17 |
| shirish | ah, ok | 07:17 |
| shirish | like the *might* | 07:18 |
| Amaranth | AAC is just a codec | 07:19 |
| Amaranth | you're thinking of FairPlay | 07:19 |
| DanaG | Or how about the difference between skype and skype-static? | 07:19 |
| shirish | there is something called skype-static ? | 07:19 |
| Amaranth | Which is Apple's DRM for their m4a (mpeg4 audio) files which use AAC | 07:19 |
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| DanaG | !info skype-static medibuntu | 07:20 |
| Amaranth | well, they use the m4p extension for stuff with DRM on it (mpeg 4 protected audio) | 07:20 |
| ubotu | Package skype-static does not exist in gutsy | 07:20 |
| shirish | that info needs to be filled in | 07:20 |
| Amaranth | ubotu only does official ubuntu and seveas' repo | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 07:20 |
| shirish | aah | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I wonder if I even need w32codecs, if I haven't specifically encountered any issues. | 07:21 |
| shirish | Amaranth: isn't it possible to add stuff to it, from factoids or that's restricted area? | 07:21 |
| shirish | ubotu factoids | 07:21 |
| ubotu | I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 07:21 |
| Amaranth | you can't add repos to it | 07:22 |
| === DanaG also wishes "get changelog" would work for medibuntu. | ||
| Amaranth | actually you can't add anything to it | 07:22 |
| shirish | ah ok | 07:22 |
| Amaranth | editors can add factoids to it, seveas can add repos to it | 07:22 |
| shirish | seveas ok that's the guy, cool | 07:22 |
| Amaranth | DanaG: that reads changelogs.ubuntu.com, how would you expect it to work for 3rd party things? | 07:22 |
| Amaranth | shirish: he isn't going to add medibuntu to it | 07:23 |
| Amaranth | we're not real big on 3rd party repos | 07:23 |
| Amaranth | they tend to break things | 07:23 |
| DanaG | It should be possible to make it look in the root of the repo. | 07:23 |
| DanaG | For example, parallel to "pool" would be "changelogs". | 07:23 |
| shirish | Amaranth: true, and I'm going to try medibuntu with gutsy let's see how it plays | 07:24 |
| Amaranth | meh | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Hmm, what third-party repos do I use?.... | 07:25 |
| DanaG | Medibuntu, | 07:26 |
| DanaG | and until moodbar was added, this one: http://cl.naist.jp/~eric-n/ubuntu-nlp | 07:26 |
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| DanaG | But I actually haven't installed any medibuntu stuff now. | 07:36 |
| Hobbsee | shirish's, not yours | 07:38 |
| DanaG | aah. | 07:38 |
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| crimsun | Hobbsee: check out https://code.launchpad.net/~motu/asoundconf-ui/trunk :) | 07:49 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: I've got shiny PyQt3 and PyQt4 versions there for you. | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: nice... :) | 07:50 |
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| mikkael | can someone help me with nicotine ? it's not working, and there are no responses to launchpas bugs | 09:57 |
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| mikkael | there's the problem: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1291 | 09:59 |
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| AnRkey | hi all | 01:58 |
| AnRkey | i am working on a customized network installer for fiesty and gutsy | 01:59 |
| AnRkey | where would i change the list of repos shown in the network installer? | 01:59 |
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| IdleOne | !tribe1 | 03:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:09 |
| IdleOne | !tribe | 03:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:09 |
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| virtuelv | any known problems with rt2500-based cards I should be aware of with Tribe 1? | 04:05 |
| virtuelv | as in "My rt2500 interface just vanished" | 04:07 |
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| Hobbsee | virtuelv: look it up? | 04:29 |
| virtuelv | searched for a bit, couldn't find anything specific | 04:31 |
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| DanaG | nice: add "purge" commandline argument, closes: #133421) | 06:40 |
| DanaG | You know what's really fun? Google Earth under Beryl. | 06:41 |
| DanaG | All the better to _run out of video RAM with_, my dear. | 06:41 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, what is "Solaris Mode" in gnome-system-monitor? | 06:42 |
| DanaG | Hmm, and I wonder what " - Use new desktop capplet" means. | 06:44 |
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| mikkael | nobody seems to take care of nicotine bugs | 07:05 |
| mikkael | !nicotine | 07:05 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:05 |
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| jkimball4 | Is it a known problem that network-manager-gnome is not compatible with the recent network-manager update? | 07:10 |
| jkimball4 | and Is anyone else experience poor graphics performance on Intel graphics with all updates installed? | 07:10 |
| DanaG | mikkael: for package info, try !info | 07:15 |
| DanaG | !info nicotene | 07:15 |
| ubotu | Package nicotene does not exist in gutsy | 07:15 |
| DanaG | er, misspelled | 07:15 |
| mikkael | !info nicotine | 07:15 |
| ubotu | nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8+dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 609 kB, installed size 2924 kB | 07:15 |
| DanaG | Maybe the name scares people -- nicotine--cigarette--ugh. | 07:17 |
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| mikkael | oh i think its attracting people more with this name | 07:21 |
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| mikkael | no seriously, isnt there a single person who maintains that package ? | 07:21 |
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| DanaG | Argh, the Trackballs game just slaughtered Beryl. | 08:11 |
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| DanaG | Oh, and when you hit escape, the key repeats and the game quits. | 08:14 |
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| pwnguin | anyone noticed the gnome power manager being a bit goofy? | 08:34 |
| pwnguin | it seems they've added application level battery profiling, but i'm not exactly sure how to make it work | 08:35 |
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| corevette | When I tell my system to do a partial upgrade, the update manager just closes | 09:04 |
| pwnguin | corevette: try running from the command line, it probably crashes | 09:05 |
| corevette | pwnguin: http://pastebin.com/932079 | 09:07 |
| ibrown | i have a lot of dev work to start doing, i downloaded ubuntu-feisty 64amd, but a lot of the libraries are a bit outdated for what i need... is edgy the release for more developers/bleeding edge and the like? I'm switching from slackware if that helps. | 09:07 |
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| pwnguin | ... | 09:07 |
| pwnguin | edgy is two releases ago | 09:07 |
| pwnguin | feisty is the current release, and gutsy is the new release. it helps sometimes to use numbers | 09:07 |
| pwnguin | ibrown: you can check packages.ubuntu.com to see if the library versions you want are already in 7.10 | 09:08 |
| pwnguin | corevette: there's an update available that solves this | 09:09 |
| pwnguin | corevette: apt-get upgrade from the command line and you should be fixed up | 09:09 |
| ibrown | pwnguin: the glib version is only 2.12.11 which is what i found, i need a higher version of glib. | 09:11 |
| ibrown | pwnguin: >= 2.4 | 09:12 |
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| terlmann | what channel for bugs ? | 09:33 |
| pwnguin | ibrown: isn't 2.12 bigger than 2.4? | 09:33 |
| terlmann | ello ? | 09:33 |
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| terlmann | got any fish ? | 09:34 |
| pwnguin | terlmann: launchpad's the best place to report bugs, since it does a pretty good job of finding dups | 09:34 |
| terlmann | yea , but this is a big one | 09:34 |
| terlmann | Instant | 09:34 |
| corevette | thanks for the help pwnguin earlier, it worked | 09:34 |
| pwnguin | corevette: np. i just looked at the change log before i upgraded and it mentioned your bugs ;) | 09:35 |
| ibrown | herm. it would appear as such. | 09:35 |
| ibrown | maybe i'm just too high and overlooking a pkg-config setting | 09:35 |
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| pwnguin | pkg-config? | 09:36 |
| pwnguin | ibrown: debian splits out development header files into -dev packages | 09:40 |
| pwnguin | ibrown: so if you need a specific library included in your app, you'll need the -dev to build against | 09:40 |
| pwnguin | in glibc's case, i think you just need build-essential, which should pull in most of the common development tools | 09:40 |
| ibrown | yeah i installed the build-essentials. | 09:40 |
| ibrown | pwnguin: i'm recreating the build error so i can examine it under a diff angle. | 09:40 |
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