[03:47] <saispo> cjwatson: ping ?
[03:48] <saispo> cjwatson: i think the debootstrap on gutsy have a missing dependancies
[03:48] <saispo> Missing debootstrap-required dmsetup
[03:48] <saispo> CD1 missing some packages needed by debootstrap
[03:49] <cjwatson> you've misunderstood that error message
[03:50] <cjwatson> I'll lower the priority of dmsetup to option per http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/jessica.txt, which will fix that
[03:50] <cjwatson> done
[03:51] <cjwatson> (wait 40 minutes for the publisher to run)
[03:51] <saispo> ok
[03:51] <saispo> thanks
[03:53] <cjwatson> s/option/optional/
[05:12] <xivulon> evand I have m-a kind of working in wubi
[05:13] <xivulon> evand, is there any deep reason for you to insist in mounting the device containing the files to be imported? I had a quick hack to skip that if the device is in mtab and it seems ok.
[05:15] <evand> xivulon: I don't follow.  You need to mount the device you're importing from, otherwise how would you get the files?  Or are you saying unmount and remounting it?
[05:15] <xivulon> cjwatson, I have a problem making suspend/hybernation work with wubi. I played with acpi-settings but did not get too far. Anyone in the know that might be able to help?
[05:15] <evand> ah, I should've read that full thing :)
[05:16] <xivulon> acpi-support
[05:16] <evand> xivulon: ma-ask and ma-apply would have to be modified to take into account that the mount location isn't /mnt/migrationassistant
[05:16] <cjwatson> xivulon: mjg59, as a general rule ;-)
[05:16] <xivulon> evand, olso in S20microsoft test, you check the fstype
[05:17] <cjwatson> #ubuntu-kernel, more generally
[05:17] <xivulon> cjwatson thx
[05:17] <evand> xivulon: well, os-prober does, but yes
[05:17] <evand> oh
[05:17] <xivulon> evand in the fstest os-prober skips if it's not fat/ntfs
[05:17] <xivulon> I need to have fuse* in there too
[05:18] <cjwatson> err, it needs to be a bit more specific than that
[05:18] <cjwatson> fuse could be anything, it needs to check if it's ntfs-3g
[05:19] <cjwatson> anyway, this is all part of the lupin merge
[05:19] <xivulon> I think the check is only to avoid wasting time
[05:19] <xivulon> Does not look that there is any harm in running a test on a non windows partition
[05:19] <cjwatson> partly to try to reduce false positives too
[05:20] <cjwatson> no direct harm, but you might misdetect
[05:20] <cjwatson> people put all kinds of weird crap on filesystems :)
[05:20] <xivulon> I'll submitt a proper patch in the coming days
[05:20] <cjwatson> sure, it can go upstream easily
[05:21] <xivulon> By the way you have any preference for the patches? Is bzr diff ok?
[05:22] <evand> public branches are nice, but a readable diff works for me.
[05:23] <cjwatson> agreed
[05:23] <xivulon> I prefer branches too
[05:23] <cjwatson> bzr diff --diff-options=-p is preferable to bzr diff for C code
[05:24] <xivulon> cjwatson that is bash
[05:24] <cjwatson> huh?
[05:24] <xivulon> ma-apply
[05:24] <xivulon> and os-prober util
[05:24] <cjwatson> I didn't say it wasn't; I said that *for C code* -p is preferable
[05:25] <cjwatson> it was an informational comment
[05:25] <xivulon> ok thx, any advantage in having -p in bash?
[05:26] <evand> bzr help diff :)
[05:26] <evand> err actually
[05:26] <evand> that doesn't tell you much
[05:26] <evand> nevermind then
[05:26] <cjwatson>        -p  --show-c-function
[05:26] <cjwatson>               Show which C function each change is in.
[05:26] <xivulon> guess man diff will do
[05:26] <cjwatson> so not particularly, no. It might manage to guess shell functions by sheer luck
[05:27] <xivulon> I am not on linux machine right now though
[05:27] <cjwatson> by the way, neither ma-apply nor os-prober is bash; they're sh. The distinction is important
[05:27] <xivulon> absolutely
[05:27] <cjwatson> bash is a particular implementation of sh with a lot of extensions which you cannot use in the installer
[05:40] <xivulon> ps evand in my test I have tried to import firefox and ie settings, but only ie settings got actually imported
[05:41] <evand> curious
[05:41] <evand> a bookmarks.html file and /var/log/syslog from the install would be helpful there.
[05:50] <xivulon> I'll have a look tonight
[05:53] <evand> thanks
[07:45] <joshk_> kickstart/preseed support is only available on desktop CDs, right?
[07:50] <evand> joshk_: It's only on the alternate CD.  Proper preseeding support for the desktop CD is being worked on in this release cycle.
[07:51] <evand> err to clarify, s/desktop/live/
[08:05] <joshk_> ok, cool
[08:05] <joshk_> just checking to make sure i wasn't missing something, because the wiki page doesn't clearly say
[08:05] <joshk_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility i mean
[08:30] <cjwatson> not sure kickstart will make it onto the desktop CD though
[08:30] <cjwatson> would take a lot more work for the desktop CD to be able to support it
[08:37] <joshk_> hm, that's cool
[08:37] <joshk_> i just had some kickstart-generating code already
[09:34] <cjwatson> joshk_: I imported kickseed into Debian yesterday ...
[09:40] <xivulon> evand there are no logs relating to ff import, but I guess that is due to my convoluted set-up
[09:41] <evand> xivulon: hrmm, it could be my fault.  It's possible that I removed the relevent logging information to not flood syslog.
[09:41] <evand> The bookmarks.html file should be enough.  Just take out anything sensitive.
[09:51] <xivulon> you mean the windows one?
[09:51] <xivulon> it's quite large...
[09:52] <xivulon> I think the issue is that my profile sits on a different drive
[09:52] <evand> oh
[09:52] <xivulon> I would not be too concerned about
[09:53] <evand> that would definitely do it
[09:53] <evand> it follows non-standard profile paths, just not when they're on something other than C:
[09:53] <xivulon> of course
[09:53] <evand> indeed
[09:53] <xivulon> it's just that I have not used windows for so long that I forgot about it
[09:54] <evand> heh
[10:23] <joshk_> is it possible to use a desktop CD as an installation source for netboot? yes, right?
[10:24] <joshk_> like, if i remaster the mini.iso with a ubuntu desktop iso in its filesystem
[10:24] <joshk_> don't ask why
[10:27] <evand> joshk_: No, the desktop CD does not contain packages.  It installs by copying the RO filesystem to the target filesystem
[10:27] <joshk_> aw, crap.
[10:35] <superm1> evand, I was going through and cleaning up the templates in the patch that i'm using for the mythbuntu frontend, but encountered ubiquity/install/summary which we have changed to include more of our specific information.  What is the cleanest way to ship ours in the package ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu and override the one in the package ubiquity?
[10:36] <superm1> I was thinking maybe divert the whole ubiquity.templates in /var/lib/dpkg/info, but then thats a lot of code duplication for all of those templates, especially if you change one
[10:37] <evand> hrm, that's not a static template either
[10:37] <superm1> right
[10:38] <superm1> i've got an extra script mythbuntu_summary in the scripts/ directory that is called instead to generate it with our information (using the same format that you've already started there)
[10:38] <superm1> there are a number of other areas with similar issues of code duplication (because I couldn't call the parent class), but those could be worked out later.
[10:42] <evand> superm1: I'm really not sure the best way to approach that.  I would think a diversion is your only option, but I could definitely be wrong.  You might want to ask cjwatson or someone who knows more debconf tricks than I do.
[10:42] <superm1> well i thought of another dirty trick a few minutes ago..
[10:42] <superm1> in one of those substitutions
[10:42] <superm1> like ${LANGUAGE}
[10:42] <superm1> I can substitute in *all* of our stuff
[10:43] <evand> heh
[10:43] <superm1> with a bunch of \n's
[10:43] <superm1> not too sure how nice that would turn out, so I was hoping there was some debconf magic to learn about
[10:43] <evand> there may very well be, I'm just not aware of it either
[10:44] <superm1> okay i'll keep poking around then.  thanks :)
[10:45] <evand> sorry I couldn't have been of more help.  Good luck