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cje | hi, I wanted to let the folks here know about a resource that I have helped create (along with other members of our community), which is a video repository of interviews with FOSS leaders and general leaders in politics, business and software development about how FOSS is going to change the world. | 12:51 |
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cje | The repository is on the Internet Archive: http:archive/.org/details/digitaltippingpoint | 12:52 |
cje | We have 300 hours of broadcast quality footage of interviews and good b-roll from Spain, Scotland, Germany, and Brazil | 12:53 |
cje | And California USA, of course. | 12:53 |
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katkin | morning guys | 10:01 |
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katkin | morning again. . . | 10:03 |
jenda | morning, katkin :) | 10:16 |
katkin | hi jenda | 10:17 |
katkin | how are things? | 10:17 |
jenda | busy :) | 10:18 |
jenda | Or, should be. | 10:18 |
jenda | It's hard to bring myself to start working :D | 10:18 |
katkin | I'm still trying to get my head around everything that is Ubuntu and Canonical . . . it's all making sense though, which is good | 10:22 |
katkin | :) | 10:22 |
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jenda | katkin: feel free to ask in here - this is a very community-minded channel :) | 10:55 |
jenda | yo, juliux | 10:56 |
juliux | hi jenda | 10:56 |
juliux | jenda, can you pls give me your arriving time again | 10:56 |
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jenda | sure :) | 10:56 |
katkin | jenda: thanks lots, everyone has been really helpful so far :D | 10:56 |
katkin | morning jono! | 10:57 |
jenda | juliux: we will arrive at... 3 AM or so on the 29th | 10:57 |
juliux | 3 am ???? | 10:57 |
jenda | juliux: you don't have to worry about us until you feel like it ;) | 10:57 |
juliux | 3 am is very very early in the morning right? | 10:58 |
jenda | juliux: we'll wander around town till say, the afternoon, and then we can get together for the 'partp' | 10:58 |
jenda | juliux: yep :D | 10:58 |
juliux | jenda, why are you coming so soon | 10:58 |
jenda | juliux: it was the only way to avoid having to stay the night. | 10:58 |
juliux | ahhh | 10:58 |
jenda | juliux: and it's the cheapest buses too, with the Student Agency | 10:58 |
juliux | and when are you leaving? | 10:58 |
jenda | 2 AM the next night :) | 10:59 |
jono | hello katkin :) | 10:59 |
juliux | jenda, puhhh | 10:59 |
jono | katkin: content coming your way in the next 45 mins | 10:59 |
jono | katkin: kind of fell asleep on the train yesterday :) | 10:59 |
juliux | jenda, sounds good | 10:59 |
jenda | juliux: I hope we don't get too drunk to catch the bus ;) | 10:59 |
juliux | hehe | 10:59 |
jenda | for some reason, all foreign visitors tend to get drunk in this country. | 11:00 |
jenda | Must be something in the air. | 11:00 |
katkin | jono: bless you, and thanks. I'm still waiting on a few other people too :) | 11:00 |
jono | katkin: ahhh good, would hate to be holding you up | 11:00 |
katkin | jono: no worries | 11:02 |
jono | katkin: good meeting yesterday, great to meet up with you :) | 11:02 |
juliux | jenda, we have the best beer;) | 11:02 |
jenda | uh oh | 11:02 |
jenda | flamewar coming :) | 11:02 |
juliux | jenda, we will test it here;) | 11:02 |
jenda | :) | 11:02 |
jenda | I'll bring samples, as I promised. | 11:03 |
jenda | I'll need a big backpack for the books anyway. | 11:03 |
jenda | brb | 11:03 |
katkin | jono: indeed, great to meet you too, it's really great to be involved with the community, I think I can learn heaps from you guys | 11:03 |
jono | juliux: ok pal, whats the score with the ubucon? | 11:03 |
jono | juliux: :) | 11:03 |
juliux | jono, what do you mean with score? | 11:03 |
jono | juliux: oops, english slang, "what is the current status" | 11:03 |
jono | katkin: yeah should be fun, might be worth us scheduling reasonably regular calls - once a month or so | 11:04 |
jono | I am scheduling regular calls with my target teams where I can | 11:04 |
jono | mainly marketing, MOTU and a few others | 11:04 |
juliux | jono, looks very good, we talked last week with a university in krefeld/germany and they can give us a lot of rooms but we have to pay for them | 11:04 |
jono | juliux: right | 11:04 |
jono | juliux: is it expensive? | 11:05 |
juliux | jono, and we also have some rooms for free but we have some communication problems with them | 11:05 |
jono | juliux: communication problems> | 11:05 |
juliux | jono, we dont know it exactly, but we are sure that we will find money if we are searching for it;) | 11:05 |
juliux | jono, they guys are not happy that we also went to the university and asked them | 11:06 |
katkin | jono: yep I agree, maybe get a re-occurring call in the diary at the beginning of the month? | 11:06 |
jono | heh | 11:06 |
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jono | damn | 11:06 |
jono | I can't type today | 11:06 |
jono | katkin: sounds great | 11:06 |
juliux | jono, but they didnt response for a longer time so we searched for an other room | 11:06 |
jono | katkin: which date is good for you? | 11:06 |
juliux | jono, we have today our weekly ubucon-de meeting perhaps i know more after that | 11:06 |
jono | juliux: excellent, keep me updated | 11:07 |
juliux | jono, sure | 11:07 |
jenda | jono: will canonical fund it? | 11:07 |
jono | juliux: we also need to discuss an EUTeams team for LoCos - what we discussed at LinuxTag | 11:07 |
jono | jenda: well... | 11:07 |
jenda | (I didn't want you to be disappointed, and it seemed juliux wasn't about to ask ;)) | 11:07 |
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katkin | jono: How about the first Monday of every month, the first meeting being Mon 2nd July? | 11:07 |
jono | katkin: sounds great | 11:07 |
juliux | jono, right | 11:08 |
jono | katkin: 3pm? | 11:08 |
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katkin | jono: sounds good. I'll put it in my diary now. Do you have a google diary? | 11:08 |
jenda | katkin: who are you? :) | 11:08 |
juliux | jenda,PriceChild> <Belutz> QUESTION: if a loco are creating a nation wide event, is it | 11:08 |
juliux | possible that we ask canonical for sponsor (aside from conference kits)? | 11:08 |
juliux | <sabdfl> ask of course! we haven't sponsored anything like that before, but it i | 11:08 |
juliux | s possible | 11:08 |
juliux | <sabdfl> so feel free to make a case for it | 11:08 |
juliux | jenda, from the last ask mark session;) | 11:08 |
jenda | juliux: :D | 11:08 |
jenda | cool | 11:08 |
jono | katkin: yep google diary, just added it :) | 11:09 |
katkin | jenda: I'm a new Marketing Manager. I'm working with Gerry, I started on 12th June | 11:09 |
jenda | katkin: ah, cool! :) | 11:09 |
jenda | katkin: welcome, then :) | 11:09 |
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jono | juliux: jenda: we do consider funding, send me a detailed proposal | 11:09 |
katkin | jenda: thanks :) | 11:09 |
juliux | jono, we will if we think we need it | 11:09 |
katkin | jenda: where are you based? | 11:10 |
jenda | katkin: I'm "one of the marketing team guys" ;) | 11:10 |
jono | juliux: good man | 11:10 |
jenda | katkin: and i'm in Prague, Czech republic | 11:10 |
juliux | jono, we want to try to do it with local sponsors, in the next week we will write an e-mail to all ubuntu partners in germany | 11:10 |
jono | juliux: I would always recommend local sponsorship, and canonical funding is rare to be honest | 11:10 |
jono | as a rule we do not sponsor loco events, not enough money | 11:10 |
juliux | jono, i think canonicals sponsoring should be to send the local employess for a talk;) | 11:11 |
jono | juliux: would be interesting | 11:12 |
jenda | jono: speaking of which... (please don't kill me for the question) will there be a way to humbly beg for sponsorship for the next UDS? For Sevilla, the wiki just kept saying 'more info soon' until the info came as 'no more sponsorships' | 11:12 |
jono | jenda: we internally pick sponsorships now | 11:12 |
jenda | jono: ok | 11:12 |
jono | jenda: so, keep up the good work, and you might get in :) | 11:12 |
katkin | jenda: indeed, I'm "one of the marketing team guys" :D. I do love Prague, it's a very beautiful city. | 11:12 |
jenda | hehe :) | 11:12 |
jono | jenda: also, the last time, I never had anything to do with the sponsorships | 11:13 |
juliux | jono, tsts that is not realy the open ubuntu way;) | 11:13 |
jenda | katkin: :) | 11:13 |
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juliux | hi gerry | 11:13 |
jono | juliux: it is when its canonical money :P | 11:13 |
jenda | jono: I wasn't blaming you | 11:13 |
juliux | jono, i know | 11:13 |
jono | jenda: I know, its cool :) | 11:13 |
jenda | juliux: now we're outnumbered | 11:13 |
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juliux | jenda, lol | 11:13 |
jenda | :) | 11:13 |
jono | I think katkin and I should beat both of you up - Canonical power! | 11:13 |
jono | :P | 11:14 |
jenda | :) | 11:14 |
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jono | jenda: heh | 11:14 |
juliux | hm we need more community people now | 11:14 |
jenda | oh well, kitchen calls, I'll brb. | 11:14 |
jono | I have to run | 11:14 |
jono | later chaps | 11:14 |
juliux | jenda, lets write a community controlled bot;) | 11:15 |
juliux | jono, if you read something about the german ubucon on the planet you can be sure that we have fixed the major problems | 11:15 |
jono | juliux: right | 11:16 |
jenda | juliux: BTW, we are establishing the Czech LoCo as a legal entity soon. | 11:17 |
juliux | jenda, cool | 11:17 |
jenda | juliux: it will make it possible to have a formal budget and all that jazz ;) | 11:17 |
juliux | jenda, i know | 11:17 |
jenda | Unfortunately, I'm the only donator so far :D | 11:17 |
jenda | *donor? | 11:17 |
juliux | jenda, during the time there will be more | 11:18 |
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jenda | (I would use the word sponsor, but as I learnt about a week ago, you are only legally a sponsor if you are getting advertisements in return :)) | 11:18 |
jenda | bah, I gotta get back to work. If all goes well, I could even afford the UDS myself ;) | 11:19 |
juliux | jenda, good luck | 11:19 |
jenda | :) | 11:19 |
jenda | juliux: crap | 11:29 |
jenda | juliux: the bus is full :( | 11:29 |
jenda | I'll have to keep prodding them if any reservations were cancelled... and then just chance waiting at the bus stop and hope someone doesn't turn up :D | 11:30 |
juliux | oh no | 11:30 |
jenda | Well, we'll just have to hope. | 11:32 |
jenda | Worst case scenario: either I or beuno stay in Prague - if I stay, he'll have to carry my books back :D | 11:33 |
jenda | In fact, that's what we'll do. I'll stay, and then try to hitchhike :) | 11:33 |
jenda | shouldn't be too hard. | 11:33 |
Mike_F | jenda, thanks for sending the flyers | 11:57 |
jenda | Mike_F: no problem - did you say 'what was left of them' earlier? | 11:57 |
Mike_F | yes | 11:57 |
Mike_F | i guess someone or something didn't like them | 11:58 |
jenda | damn | 11:58 |
Mike_F | yeah, what i got was pretty funny though | 11:59 |
jenda | What did they do to them? | 11:59 |
Mike_F | i bright red Honda Owners Manual and what looks like someone trying to claim one of the email scam prizes | 11:59 |
Mike_F | The Scammers must of got the Ubuntu Flyers | 12:00 |
Mike_F | It looked like the envelope got chewed up in a sorting machince some where on the US side | 12:00 |
jenda | juliux: you know, the 21st century is amazing - hitchhiking is now done over the internet, too :) | 12:01 |
jenda | Mike_F: what? | 12:01 |
jenda | Mike_F: I don't understand :D | 12:01 |
jenda | Sounds funky enough. | 12:01 |
Mike_F | That's what I got in one of the envelopes that the postal service sends you when they find a damaged letter | 12:02 |
jenda | ah | 12:02 |
Mike_F | They also say they are sorry | 12:02 |
jenda | :D | 12:02 |
jenda | bastards | 12:02 |
jenda | and they get paid for that... | 12:02 |
Mike_F | Well someone get the Flyers in a way we did spread the word about Ubuntu | 12:04 |
elkbuntu | Mike_F, they also say sorry when some twit posts you a SASE that is open and empty because the adhesive strip has never even been exposed | 12:04 |
jenda | Mike_F: :) | 12:05 |
Mike_F | I once got a letter addressed to someone's landlord in New York City with their rent check in it. | 12:06 |
Mike_F | No bad since that's about 1200 miles from here | 12:07 |
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Mike_F | I sent it in for them | 12:07 |
Mike_F | Now, Does anyone know how I could get some flyers ? | 12:10 |
elkbuntu | Mike_F, with a note to the tune of 'the postal service are a bunch of untrained monkeys. it is a miracle there is not poop smeared on this envelope' | 12:10 |
jenda | Mike_F: I got the price for the 800 from my printer guy | 12:10 |
jenda | I could try finding it :D | 12:10 |
jenda | Mike_F: it looks like $200 for 200 | 12:11 |
jenda | Which is more than I expected :( | 12:12 |
jenda | erm | 12:12 |
jenda | $200 for 800 | 12:12 |
Mike_F | That's about what they would cost here | 12:12 |
jenda | ok | 12:13 |
jenda | you'd probably have to add about $20 for shipping | 12:13 |
Mike_F | I think we need to make something with spot color so it can be printer on a color laser without using $300 worth of toner | 12:14 |
Mike_F | Our Loco here in Florida is starting to get the artistic people together on that | 12:15 |
jenda | cool | 12:15 |
Mike_F | I am not one of those, I just get out to a lot of business networking | 12:15 |
Mike_F | So I can get thing out to the people | 12:15 |
jenda | Mike_F: how much would the fliers cost you there? If I know, I could try convincing the guy to go down with the price. | 12:16 |
Mike_F | The big problem is something like that fyler needs to be printed 100,000+ on an offset press to get them down to a few pennies a copy | 12:17 |
jenda | yep | 12:17 |
Mike_F | Which is what Canonical obviously had done | 12:17 |
jenda | that's why the 800 cost as much as it would. | 12:18 |
jenda | AND it costs almost the same as 1600 | 12:18 |
Mike_F | So give that they just aren't cost effictive to print short run | 12:18 |
Mike_F | Exactly | 12:18 |
jenda | The problem is, not many people are willing to fund fliers for their loco. | 12:18 |
juliux | Mike_F, in germany 10.000 flyer cost only 400 | 12:18 |
jenda | juliux: I'm sure it would cost less with this guy. | 12:19 |
juliux | jenda, the cost depends on the kind of flyers, if you only make a din a4 sheet it is less money;) | 12:19 |
Mike_F | The red background is the killer on the laser printer | 12:20 |
jenda | juliux: I was asking for those made by canonical | 12:20 |
Mike_F | Process Red in laser would burn both magenta and yellow toner | 12:20 |
jenda | Mike_F: which reminds me, I stole one from the pack I sent you and sent it to the printer guy... | 12:20 |
juliux | jenda, ok, we payed 460 for 10.000 | 12:20 |
jenda | Mike_F: not that it matters now :D | 12:20 |
juliux | jenda, and thas is a good price in germany | 12:20 |
jenda | juliux: that is a good price | 12:21 |
jenda | juliux: what did they look like? | 12:21 |
jenda | (double-sided, folded?) | 12:21 |
juliux | jenda, they are the same as the canonical ubuntu ones | 12:21 |
jenda | cool | 12:21 |
juliux | jenda, but they are in german;) | 12:21 |
jenda | that's a very good price, then. | 12:21 |
jenda | of course | 12:21 |
juliux | jenda, now they are only 412 | 12:22 |
juliux | jenda, the price falls every half year | 12:22 |
jenda | really? cool :) | 12:22 |
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Mike_F | More Euros for less US Dollars, sounds good to me :-) | 12:24 |
myriam_rs | if only this was true regardind CHF :-( | 12:26 |
myriam_rs | Euro has gone really high for us now here in Switzerland :-( | 12:26 |
jenda | Mike_F: actually, if there was a deflation in euroland, it would mean the euro is more expensive ;) | 12:27 |
jenda | (compare with inflation - when money loses its value) | 12:27 |
myriam_rs | I get less Euro for my money now, but US Dollar is the same since months | 12:28 |
jenda | the US dollar has been falling compared to the CZK and the euro for some time now. | 12:29 |
jenda | (and for me, an exporter, it's a bad thing ;)) | 12:29 |
Vorian | exporter eh? | 12:30 |
jenda | :) | 12:46 |
jenda | in essence, yep | 12:46 |
jenda | the only thing I import is tsmithe's proofreading. | 12:46 |
Mike_F | jenda, I always get confused about those things | 12:59 |
Mike_F | I got to get over to Orlando, one more thing | 01:00 |
Mike_F | If our Loco makes our own Ubuntu Flyers would the marketing team like copies | 01:01 |
jenda | Mike_F: I think you would find other english-speaking locos interested in tem. | 01:07 |
jenda | *them | 01:07 |
Mike_F | Good Idea, | 01:08 |
jenda | Mike_F: the US LoCos would be a good place to start :) | 01:08 |
Mike_F | Thanks I got to sign off | 01:10 |
Mike_F | bye | 01:10 |
Vorian | US loco's? | 01:14 |
Vorian | They have LoCo teams in the US? | 01:14 |
juliux | hi Vorian | 01:17 |
Vorian | hey juliux :) | 01:17 |
juliux | Vorian, did you revice the shirts? | 01:17 |
Vorian | not yet.... | 01:17 |
Vorian | juliux, how long do packages normally take? | 01:18 |
juliux | Vorian, they said 5 days, but they also said 5 days to denmark and there it was after 1 day;) | 01:18 |
Vorian | wow | 01:18 |
Vorian | juliux, I'll let you know when I get them | 01:19 |
Vorian | You can keep a log | 01:19 |
Vorian | :) | 01:19 |
juliux | thxs Vorian | 01:22 |
Vorian | :) | 01:22 |
Vorian | no problem | 01:22 |
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katkin_ | so, i became a member of launchpad today, very exciting :) | 05:35 |
elkbuntu | :) | 06:00 |
elkbuntu | I'm glad you're enjoying your new job, katkin_ | 06:00 |
katkin_ | elkbuntu: thanks :) it's great to be able to see what everyone looks like on launchpad | 06:01 |
elkbuntu | https://launchpad.net/~melissa is me :) | 06:02 |
katkin_ | elkbuntu: cool, you're in oz! | 06:04 |
elkbuntu | katkin_, indeed i am | 06:04 |
elkbuntu | oz has ticked into 2am already too, so i should go snuggle into bed | 06:06 |
katkin_ | elkbuntu: no worries. Sweet dreams | 06:07 |
elkbuntu | katkin_, same to you, for when it is your turn | 06:07 |
katkin_ | :) | 06:08 |
elkbuntu | katkin_, before i go, i'm going to point you to #ubuntu-women ... it's a project to encourage women to use Ubuntu and other open source software. It'd be wonderful to have a canonical woman in there :) | 06:12 |
katkin_ | elkbuntu: absolutely, I'd love to get involved x | 06:12 |
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juliux | gerry katkin i need your help;) i get a phone call from a german company who is in contact with malcolm but he doesn t response any phonecalls, is there somebody else they can phone? | 06:40 |
katkin | juliux: hi, can I ask what the company are asking about? So I can be sure to recommend the right person. | 06:42 |
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jenda | katkin: welcome to the LP marketing team :) | 07:05 |
jenda | You are member #245 | 07:05 |
jenda | (estimate :D) | 07:05 |
juliux | katkin, as i understand it right they have a product for the commercial archive | 07:07 |
katkin | jenda: hi! | 07:07 |
katkin | juliux: I'm not quite sure what you mean? Still getting to grips with things. . . . | 07:08 |
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juliux | katkin, somebody from the partner prorgamm is need i think | 07:09 |
juliux | katkin, they are developing a groupwaresoftware and i think they have a contract with canonical that this groupware should go one day into the commercial repository | 07:09 |
katkin | juliux: i see | 07:09 |
gerry | hello | 07:19 |
gerry | i thiink they need to go through malcolm juliux | 07:19 |
juliux | gerry, nobody else? | 07:19 |
gerry | what's the name of the company and we'll flag it with malcolm | 07:20 |
gerry | malcolm rides alone | 07:20 |
juliux | gerry, globolog | 07:20 |
gerry | but he has some admin help now | 07:20 |
gerry | so might get a bit easier | 07:20 |
gerry | he's getting old juliux | 07:20 |
gerry | slowing down | 07:20 |
juliux | gerry, no to old for jokes;) | 07:20 |
gerry | i hope not | 07:21 |
gerry | thanks for flagging it up | 07:21 |
juliux | and not too old for bashing microsoft and suse;) | 07:21 |
gerry | i'll let you know what happens | 07:21 |
gerry | anyone here from the philippines? | 07:21 |
gerry | anyone? | 07:22 |
jenda | jsgotangco | 07:22 |
gerry | really? | 07:24 |
jenda | yes | 07:24 |
jenda | At least, as far as I know :) | 07:25 |
gerry | that's fantastic | 07:25 |
gerry | i have a terrific case study for him | 07:25 |
gerry | or her | 07:25 |
gerry | is he or she online much? | 07:26 |
jenda | yep, checked | 07:26 |
jenda | gerry: Jerome S Gotangco | 07:26 |
jenda | Him. | 07:26 |
jenda | and yep, he's online often, but not here. | 07:26 |
jenda | gerry: he's on the community council, you should know him ;) | 07:27 |
gerry | of course.i hope he got my fruit basket | 07:28 |
jenda | :D | 07:28 |
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myriam_rs | hi gerry :-) | 07:45 |
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jenda | gerry: updated | 08:07 |
jenda | gerry: is early registration still up? | 08:07 |
gerry | early reg gone | 08:13 |
gerry | hi myriam | 08:14 |
gerry | i hear you've a new member on the women list | 08:14 |
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myriam_rs | well, not so new, I'm here since June last year :-) | 09:06 |
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myriam_rs | suppose you mean Katkin :-) | 09:08 |
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