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cjehi, I wanted to let the folks here know about a resource that I have helped create (along with other members of our community), which is a video repository of interviews with FOSS leaders and general leaders in politics, business and software development about how FOSS is going to change the world.12:51
cjeThe repository is on the Internet Archive:  http:archive/.org/details/digitaltippingpoint12:52
cjeWe have 300 hours of broadcast quality footage of interviews and good b-roll from Spain, Scotland, Germany, and Brazil12:53
cjeAnd California USA, of course.12:53
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katkinmorning guys10:01
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katkinmorning again. . .10:03
jendamorning, katkin :)10:16
katkinhi jenda10:17
katkinhow are things?10:17
jendabusy :)10:18
jendaOr, should be.10:18
jendaIt's hard to bring myself to start working :D10:18
katkinI'm still trying to get my head around everything that is Ubuntu and Canonical . . . it's all making sense though, which is good10:22
katkin:)10:22
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jendakatkin: feel free to ask in here - this is a very community-minded channel :)10:55
jendayo, juliux10:56
juliuxhi jenda 10:56
juliuxjenda, can you pls give me your arriving time again10:56
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jendasure :)10:56
katkinjenda: thanks lots, everyone has been really helpful so far :D10:56
katkinmorning jono!10:57
jendajuliux: we will arrive at... 3 AM or so on the 29th10:57
juliux3 am ????10:57
jendajuliux: you don't have to worry about us until you feel like it ;)10:57
juliux3 am is very very early in the morning right?10:58
jendajuliux: we'll wander around town till say, the afternoon, and then we can get together for the 'partp'10:58
jendajuliux: yep :D10:58
juliuxjenda, why are you coming so soon10:58
jendajuliux: it was the only way to avoid having to stay the night.10:58
juliuxahhh10:58
jendajuliux: and it's the cheapest buses too, with the Student Agency10:58
juliuxand when are you leaving?10:58
jenda2 AM the next night :)10:59
jonohello katkin :)10:59
juliuxjenda, puhhh10:59
jonokatkin: content coming your way in the next 45 mins10:59
jonokatkin: kind of fell asleep on the train yesterday :)10:59
juliuxjenda, sounds good10:59
jendajuliux: I hope we don't get too drunk to catch the bus ;)10:59
juliuxhehe10:59
jendafor some reason, all foreign visitors tend to get drunk in this country.11:00
jendaMust be something in the air.11:00
katkinjono: bless you, and thanks. I'm still waiting on a few other people too :)11:00
jonokatkin: ahhh good, would hate to be holding you up11:00
katkinjono: no worries11:02
jonokatkin: good meeting yesterday, great to meet up with you :)11:02
juliuxjenda, we have the best beer;)11:02
jendauh oh11:02
jendaflamewar coming :)11:02
juliuxjenda, we will test it here;)11:02
jenda:)11:02
jendaI'll bring samples, as I promised.11:03
jendaI'll need a big backpack for the books anyway.11:03
jendabrb11:03
katkinjono: indeed, great to meet you too, it's really great to be involved with the community, I think I can learn heaps from you guys11:03
jonojuliux: ok pal, whats the score with the ubucon?11:03
jonojuliux: :)11:03
juliuxjono, what do you mean with score?11:03
jonojuliux: oops, english slang, "what is the current status"11:03
jonokatkin: yeah should be fun, might be worth us scheduling reasonably regular calls - once a month or so11:04
jonoI am scheduling regular calls with my target teams where I can11:04
jonomainly marketing, MOTU and a few others11:04
juliuxjono, looks very good, we talked last week with a university in krefeld/germany and they can give us a lot of rooms but we have to pay for them11:04
jonojuliux: right11:04
jonojuliux: is it expensive?11:05
juliuxjono, and we also have some rooms for free but we have some communication problems with them11:05
jonojuliux: communication problems>11:05
juliuxjono, we dont know it exactly, but we are sure that we will find money if we are searching for it;)11:05
juliuxjono, they guys are not happy that we also went to the university and asked them11:06
katkinjono: yep I agree, maybe get a re-occurring call in the diary at the beginning of the month?11:06
jonoheh11:06
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jonodamn11:06
jonoI can't type today11:06
jonokatkin: sounds great11:06
juliuxjono, but they didnt response for a longer time so we searched for an other room11:06
jonokatkin: which date is good for you?11:06
juliuxjono, we have today our weekly ubucon-de meeting perhaps i know more after that11:06
jonojuliux: excellent, keep me updated11:07
juliuxjono, sure11:07
jendajono: will canonical fund it?11:07
jonojuliux: we also need to discuss an EUTeams team for LoCos - what we discussed at LinuxTag11:07
jonojenda: well...11:07
jenda(I didn't want you to be disappointed, and it seemed juliux wasn't about to ask ;))11:07
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katkinjono: How about the first Monday of every month, the first meeting being Mon 2nd July?11:07
jonokatkin: sounds great11:07
juliuxjono, right11:08
jonokatkin: 3pm?11:08
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katkinjono: sounds good. I'll put it in my diary now. Do you have a google diary?11:08
jendakatkin: who are you? :)11:08
juliuxjenda,PriceChild> <Belutz> QUESTION: if a loco are creating a nation wide event, is it11:08
juliux possible that we ask canonical for sponsor (aside from conference kits)?11:08
juliux<sabdfl> ask of course! we haven't sponsored anything like that before, but it i11:08
juliuxs possible11:08
juliux<sabdfl> so feel free to make a case for it11:08
juliuxjenda, from the last ask mark session;)11:08
jendajuliux: :D11:08
jendacool11:08
jonokatkin: yep google diary, just added it :)11:09
katkinjenda: I'm a new Marketing Manager. I'm working with Gerry, I started on 12th June11:09
jendakatkin: ah, cool! :)11:09
jendakatkin: welcome, then :)11:09
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jonojuliux: jenda: we do consider funding, send me a detailed proposal11:09
katkinjenda: thanks :)11:09
juliuxjono, we will if we think we need it11:09
katkinjenda: where are you based?11:10
jendakatkin: I'm "one of the marketing team guys" ;)11:10
jonojuliux: good man11:10
jendakatkin: and i'm in Prague, Czech republic11:10
juliuxjono, we want to try to do it with local sponsors, in the next week we will write an e-mail to all ubuntu partners in germany11:10
jonojuliux: I would always recommend local sponsorship, and canonical funding is rare to be honest11:10
jonoas a rule we do not sponsor loco events, not enough money11:10
juliuxjono, i think canonicals sponsoring should be to send the local employess for a talk;)11:11
jonojuliux: would be interesting11:12
jendajono: speaking of which... (please don't kill me for the question) will there be a way to humbly beg for sponsorship for the next UDS? For Sevilla, the wiki just kept saying 'more info soon' until the info came as 'no more sponsorships'11:12
jonojenda: we internally pick sponsorships now11:12
jendajono: ok11:12
jonojenda: so, keep up the good work, and you might get in :)11:12
katkinjenda: indeed, I'm "one of the marketing team guys" :D. I do love Prague, it's a very beautiful city.11:12
jendahehe :)11:12
jonojenda: also, the last time, I never had anything to do with the sponsorships11:13
juliuxjono, tsts that is not realy the open ubuntu way;)11:13
jendakatkin: :)11:13
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juliuxhi gerry 11:13
jonojuliux: it is when its canonical money :P11:13
jendajono: I wasn't blaming you11:13
juliuxjono, i know11:13
jonojenda: I know, its cool :)11:13
jendajuliux: now we're outnumbered11:13
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juliuxjenda, lol11:13
jenda:)11:13
jonoI think katkin and I should beat both of you up - Canonical power!11:13
jono:P11:14
jenda:)11:14
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jonojenda: heh11:14
juliuxhm we need more community people now 11:14
jendaoh well, kitchen calls, I'll brb.11:14
jonoI have to run11:14
jonolater chaps11:14
juliuxjenda, lets write a community controlled bot;)11:15
juliuxjono, if you read something about the german ubucon on the planet you can be sure that we have fixed the major problems11:15
jonojuliux: right11:16
jendajuliux: BTW, we are establishing the Czech LoCo as a legal entity soon.11:17
juliuxjenda, cool11:17
jendajuliux: it will make it possible to have a formal budget and all that jazz ;)11:17
juliuxjenda, i know11:17
jendaUnfortunately, I'm the only donator so far :D11:17
jenda*donor?11:17
juliuxjenda, during the time there will be more11:18
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jenda(I would use the word sponsor, but as I learnt about a week ago, you are only legally a sponsor if you are getting advertisements in return :))11:18
jendabah, I gotta get back to work. If all goes well, I could even afford the UDS myself ;)11:19
juliuxjenda, good luck11:19
jenda:)11:19
jendajuliux: crap11:29
jendajuliux: the bus is full :(11:29
jendaI'll have to keep prodding them if any reservations were cancelled... and then just chance waiting at the bus stop and hope someone doesn't turn up  :D11:30
juliuxoh no11:30
jendaWell, we'll just have to hope.11:32
jendaWorst case scenario: either I or beuno stay in Prague - if I stay, he'll have to carry my books back :D11:33
jendaIn fact, that's what we'll do. I'll stay, and then try to hitchhike :)11:33
jendashouldn't be too hard.11:33
Mike_Fjenda, thanks for sending the flyers11:57
jendaMike_F: no problem - did you say 'what was left of them' earlier?11:57
Mike_Fyes11:57
Mike_Fi guess someone or something didn't like them11:58
jendadamn11:58
Mike_Fyeah, what i got was pretty funny though11:59
jendaWhat did they do to them?11:59
Mike_Fi bright red Honda Owners Manual and what looks like someone trying to claim one of the email scam prizes11:59
Mike_FThe Scammers must of got the Ubuntu Flyers12:00
Mike_FIt looked like the envelope got chewed up in a sorting machince some where on the US side12:00
jendajuliux: you know, the 21st century is amazing - hitchhiking is now done over the internet, too :)12:01
jendaMike_F: what?12:01
jendaMike_F: I don't understand :D12:01
jendaSounds funky enough.12:01
Mike_FThat's what I got in one of the envelopes that the postal service sends you when they find a damaged letter12:02
jendaah12:02
Mike_FThey also say they are sorry12:02
jenda:D12:02
jendabastards12:02
jendaand they get paid for that...12:02
Mike_FWell someone get the Flyers in a way we did spread the word about Ubuntu12:04
elkbuntuMike_F, they also say sorry when some twit posts you a SASE that is open and empty because the adhesive strip has never even been exposed12:04
jendaMike_F: :)12:05
Mike_FI once got a letter addressed to someone's landlord in New York City with their rent check in it.12:06
Mike_FNo bad since that's about 1200 miles from here12:07
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Mike_FI sent it in for them12:07
Mike_FNow, Does anyone know how I could get some flyers ?12:10
elkbuntuMike_F, with a note to the tune of 'the postal service are a bunch of untrained monkeys. it is a miracle there is not poop smeared on this envelope'12:10
jendaMike_F: I got the price for the 800 from my printer guy12:10
jendaI could try finding it :D12:10
jendaMike_F: it looks like $200 for 20012:11
jendaWhich is more than I expected :(12:12
jendaerm12:12
jenda$200 for 80012:12
Mike_FThat's about what they would cost here12:12
jendaok12:13
jendayou'd probably have to add about $20 for shipping12:13
Mike_FI think we need to make something with spot color so it can be printer on a color laser without using $300 worth of toner12:14
Mike_FOur Loco here in Florida is starting to get the artistic people together on that12:15
jendacool12:15
Mike_FI am not one of those, I just get out to a lot of business networking12:15
Mike_FSo I can get thing out to the people12:15
jendaMike_F: how much would the fliers cost you there? If I know, I could try convincing the guy to go down with the price.12:16
Mike_FThe big problem is something like that fyler needs to be printed 100,000+ on an offset press to get them down to a few pennies a copy12:17
jendayep12:17
Mike_FWhich is what Canonical obviously had done12:17
jendathat's why the 800 cost as much as it would.12:18
jendaAND it costs almost the same as 160012:18
Mike_FSo give that they just aren't cost effictive to print short run12:18
Mike_FExactly12:18
jendaThe problem is, not many people are willing to fund fliers for their loco.12:18
juliuxMike_F, in germany 10.000 flyer cost only 40012:18
jendajuliux: I'm sure it would cost less with this guy.12:19
juliuxjenda, the cost depends on the kind of flyers, if you only make a din a4 sheet it is less money;)12:19
Mike_FThe red background is the killer on the laser printer12:20
jendajuliux: I was asking for those made by canonical12:20
Mike_FProcess Red in laser would burn both magenta and yellow toner12:20
jendaMike_F: which reminds me, I stole one from the pack I sent you and sent it to the printer guy...12:20
juliuxjenda, ok, we payed 460 for 10.00012:20
jendaMike_F: not that it matters now :D12:20
juliuxjenda, and thas is a good price in germany12:20
jendajuliux: that is a good price12:21
jendajuliux: what did they look like?12:21
jenda(double-sided, folded?)12:21
juliuxjenda, they are the same as the canonical ubuntu ones12:21
jendacool12:21
juliuxjenda, but they are in german;)12:21
jendathat's a very good price, then.12:21
jendaof course12:21
juliuxjenda, now they are only 412 12:22
juliuxjenda, the price falls every half year12:22
jendareally? cool :)12:22
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Mike_FMore Euros for less US Dollars, sounds good to me :-)12:24
myriam_rsif only this was true regardind CHF :-(12:26
myriam_rsEuro has gone really high for us now here in Switzerland :-(12:26
jendaMike_F: actually, if there was a deflation in euroland, it would mean the euro is more expensive ;)12:27
jenda(compare with inflation - when money loses its value)12:27
myriam_rsI get less Euro for my money now, but US Dollar is the same since months12:28
jendathe US dollar has been falling compared to the CZK and the euro for some time now.12:29
jenda(and for me, an exporter, it's a bad thing ;))12:29
Vorianexporter eh?12:30
jenda:)12:46
jendain essence, yep12:46
jendathe only thing I import is tsmithe's proofreading.12:46
Mike_Fjenda, I always get confused about those things12:59
Mike_FI got to get over to Orlando, one more thing01:00
Mike_FIf our Loco makes our own Ubuntu Flyers would the marketing team like copies01:01
jendaMike_F: I think you would find other english-speaking locos interested in tem.01:07
jenda*them01:07
Mike_FGood Idea, 01:08
jendaMike_F: the US LoCos would be a good place to start :)01:08
Mike_FThanks I got to sign off01:10
Mike_Fbye01:10
VorianUS loco's?01:14
VorianThey have LoCo teams in the US?01:14
juliuxhi Vorian 01:17
Vorianhey juliux :)01:17
juliuxVorian, did you revice the shirts?01:17
Voriannot yet....01:17
Vorianjuliux, how long do packages normally take?01:18
juliuxVorian, they said 5 days, but they also said 5 days to denmark and there it was after 1 day;)01:18
Vorianwow01:18
Vorianjuliux, I'll let you know when I get them01:19
VorianYou can keep a log01:19
Vorian:)01:19
juliuxthxs Vorian 01:22
Vorian:)01:22
Vorianno problem 01:22
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katkin_so, i became a member of launchpad today, very exciting :)05:35
elkbuntu:)06:00
elkbuntuI'm glad you're enjoying your new job, katkin_ 06:00
katkin_elkbuntu: thanks :) it's great to be able to see what everyone looks like on launchpad06:01
elkbuntuhttps://launchpad.net/~melissa is me :)06:02
katkin_elkbuntu: cool, you're in oz!06:04
elkbuntukatkin_, indeed i am06:04
elkbuntuoz has ticked into 2am already too, so i should go snuggle into bed06:06
katkin_elkbuntu: no worries. Sweet dreams06:07
elkbuntukatkin_, same to you, for when it is your turn 06:07
katkin_:)06:08
elkbuntukatkin_, before i go, i'm going to point you to #ubuntu-women ... it's a project to encourage women to use Ubuntu and other open source software. It'd be wonderful to have a canonical woman in there :)06:12
katkin_elkbuntu: absolutely, I'd love to get involved x06:12
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juliuxgerry katkin i need your help;) i get a phone call from a german company who is in contact with malcolm but he doesn t response any phonecalls, is there somebody else they can phone?06:40
katkinjuliux: hi, can I ask what the company are asking about? So I can be sure to recommend the right person.06:42
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jendakatkin: welcome to the LP marketing team :)07:05
jendaYou are member #24507:05
jenda(estimate :D)07:05
juliuxkatkin, as i understand it right they have a product for the commercial archive07:07
katkinjenda: hi!07:07
katkinjuliux: I'm not quite sure what you mean? Still getting to grips with things. . . .07:08
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juliuxkatkin, somebody from the partner prorgamm is need i think07:09
juliuxkatkin, they are developing a groupwaresoftware and i think they have a contract with canonical that this groupware should go one day into the commercial repository07:09
katkinjuliux: i see07:09
gerryhello 07:19
gerryi thiink they need to go through malcolm juliux07:19
juliuxgerry, nobody else?07:19
gerrywhat's the name of the company and we'll flag it with malcolm07:20
gerrymalcolm rides alone07:20
juliuxgerry, globolog07:20
gerrybut he has some admin help now 07:20
gerryso might get a bit easier07:20
gerryhe's getting old juliux07:20
gerryslowing down07:20
juliuxgerry, no to old for jokes;)07:20
gerryi hope not07:21
gerrythanks for flagging it up 07:21
juliuxand not too old for bashing microsoft and suse;)07:21
gerryi'll let you know what happens07:21
gerryanyone here from the philippines? 07:21
gerryanyone? 07:22
jendajsgotangco07:22
gerryreally? 07:24
jendayes07:24
jendaAt least, as far as I know :)07:25
gerrythat's fantastic07:25
gerryi have a terrific case study for him07:25
gerryor her07:25
gerryis he or she online much? 07:26
jendayep, checked07:26
jendagerry: Jerome S Gotangco07:26
jendaHim.07:26
jendaand yep, he's online often, but not here.07:26
jendagerry: he's on the community council, you should know him ;)07:27
gerryof course.i hope he got my fruit basket07:28
jenda:D07:28
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myriam_rshi gerry :-)07:45
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jendagerry: updated08:07
jendagerry: is early registration still up?08:07
gerryearly reg gone 08:13
gerryhi myriam08:14
gerryi hear you've a new member on the women list08:14
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myriam_rswell, not so new, I'm here since June last year :-)09:06
=== myriam_rs should read better
myriam_rssuppose you mean Katkin :-)09:08
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