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R[a] ndomtwinview12:30
klhrevolutionisthas the feisty .iso been updated since the installer bug issue ??12:36
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gnomefreakklhrevolutionist: once released it will not get ISO updates unless it is LTS12:45
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nortonHi, how does xubuntu implement the Swich user functionality?12:58
TheSheepnorton: it starts a second X server12:58
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nortonTheSheep: I see, thank you01:01
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T`anyone know how slow xinerama is compared to twinview?01:51
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jimdandyhello there03:06
Jester45hi03:06
jimdandycould someone please help me with an ipod mounting issue?03:07
Jester45i could try03:07
jimdandywell i have a fat32 ipod 80G, the system used to mount it at /media/IPOD but now it mounts at /media/IPOD_03:08
Jester45somthing is most likly mounted at /media/IPOD03:09
Jester45or the system thinks so03:09
Jester45try running "umount /media/IPOD"03:09
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Jester45you need to be root or run with sudo03:09
jimdandyumount: /media/IPOD: not mounted03:10
jimdandyi don't know if it is a permissions issue, I can read from the /media/IPOD_ directory (eg. `$ ls /media/IPOD_`) but not /media/IPOD03:11
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Jester45by default you can read anything on your drive03:13
Jester45jimdandy, try being root when you use ls03:13
jimdandythe folder is empty, but I wonder if changing the permissions means my ipod can't automount there anymore?03:15
TheSheepman pmount03:16
jimdandyi don't have a man entry for pmount03:17
TheSheep:/03:17
TheSheepjimdandy: funny, it seems that ubuntu doesn't use pmount anymore03:18
TheSheepjimdandy: kindly disregard my hint then03:18
jtg23hey has anyone gotten the linksys 54 wifi card working without using the windows driver wrapper?03:19
jimdandythanks, thesheep. btw, the permissions are shown as the same by `ls -l` : drwx------ 2 root   root    48 2007-06-14 09:16 IPOD03:19
jtg23i thought i had found a tutorial on the google but it was not that03:19
jimdandyjtg23, have you used 'lspci' to detect your exact wireless chipset? if it is shown (eg. Linksys WMP54G) then google the model number and "linux" and you'll find something.03:27
jtg23am i better off just getting a diff card?03:28
jtg23i mean if i can pick upa  cheap wifi card that'd be just as well03:28
jimdandymaybe not, what card do you have?03:28
jtg23something turnkey03:28
jtg23i have a wpm54g03:28
jtg23and this old gateway 45003:28
jtg23but i'm borring the card from another pc so i could use a new wifi card if there's one that works particularly well with xubuntu03:29
j1mcTheSheep: do you have a moment?  can we chat in xubuntu-devel?03:29
jtg23borring = borrowing; apparently i type southern03:31
jimdandyunfortunately i can't recommend a wireless card. i don't know what linuxant is, but here is a link someone got your card working: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/28.html03:31
j1mcjtg23: i had a good experience with a netgear card.03:31
j1mcjtg23: i've been told to look for cards with an atheros chipset.03:32
j1mcif that helps you any...03:32
jtg23j1mc:  thanks03:32
j1mcjtg23: also, which version of xubuntu are you using?03:32
jtg23are ubuntu and xubuntu the same drivers-wise?03:32
jtg236.06 lts03:32
jtg23i had one that worked out of the box with ubuntu but i gave it to a hot chick, like a foold03:32
jtg23-d03:32
j1mcjtg23: ok.  i know that feisty fawn features better wifi driver support.  you may want to consider upgrading.03:33
jtg23let this be a lesson!03:33
j1mcheh... :)03:33
jtg23ok i'll d/l the new version and reinstall before i change out cards and i'll also check out atheros-based cards03:33
jtg23i *really* don't want to use that win-wrapper; that's totally bogus03:33
j1mcjtg23: do you have a separate /home partition?03:34
jtg23i'm not sure03:35
jtg23should i?03:35
j1mcummm... hold on...03:35
jimdandyjtg23, are you running feisty fawn?03:38
j1mcjtg23: please type "mount | grep home"03:38
j1mcand let me know what comes up03:38
jtg23k let me boot03:38
jtg23i'm on a mac ;)03:38
j1mcyou have to reboot?  :)03:38
j1mcah, ok.03:38
jimdandysomeone seemed to get their networking fixed easily with feisty fawn and this card. the solution was posted here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=54838403:40
j1mcthanks for checking that out, jimdandy03:40
jimdandygoodnight all, no problem j1mc.03:41
j1mcgood night!03:41
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jtg23thx jim dandy03:42
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j1mcjtg23: did you try that command yet?03:47
jtg23yeah, no result03:48
jtg23so i guess not03:48
j1mcok... that just means that your /home folder isn't on a separate partition.03:48
j1mcin the future, i'd recommend putting your /home folder on a separate partition so that you can...03:49
Chikubuhey im working on getting an old sound card working, isa sb16 pnp, i get conflicting info, not sure were to apply my efforts03:49
j1mcreinstall the OS without having to restore all of your data and settings03:49
Chikubudmesg says one thing, modprobe another03:49
jtg23ok i see, well, i will do that now when i put on 7.0403:50
jtg23hey how do i see which version of linux i'm running?03:50
jtg23what's the comman03:50
jtg23d03:50
j1mcjtg23: well, you can tell what kernel version you're running, as well as some other information about your system, by typing...03:51
j1mcuname -a03:51
jtg23hm i can't see lik e "ubuntu 6.06" or whatever?03:52
j1mcthere's got to be a way to do that, but i don't recall right now.  :(  hehe03:52
Jester45tell us what uname -r says03:53
jtg232.6.16-26-38603:54
Jester45i belive that is drapper but let me cvheck03:54
Pumpernickel/etc/release has the distribution release information.03:54
Jester45check*03:54
j1mccat /etc/release03:55
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j1mcnot irc...03:55
jtg23cat /proc/version03:55
Jester45its edgy03:56
jtg23cat / etc/issue03:57
j1mcyeah... cat /etc/issue does it for me.  it doesn't give me the name, but gives me the version.03:58
Jester45eerrr maybe not i thinks its an upgraded drapper kernel03:58
j1mc... we could just check the /etc/apt/sources.list file.  :)03:58
Jester45but thats not fun03:59
j1mcjtg23: what does   -  cat /etc/issue   give you?03:59
jtg23just release info03:59
j1mcJester45: i agree.  :)03:59
j1mcjtg23: what does it _say_ when you enter it.  :)03:59
jtg23cat /proc/version has the kernel info and with cat/etc/issue that's all i kneed to know03:59
Jester45whats the current state of gusty?03:59
jtg23it says "stop typing on me and put on 7.04"03:59
j1mcJester45: current state?04:00
j1mcs/gusty/gutsy  :)04:00
jtg23do i want desktop or alternate for a laptop04:00
Jester45umm, what is it at alpha or herd04:00
j1mcjtg23: how familiar are you with linux?04:00
jtg23um, well, pretty well for my needs04:01
j1mcJester45: we're between Tribe 1 and Tribe 2 for Gutsy right now . . .04:01
jtg23but i use it only remotely;i run macs at home04:01
Jester45k04:01
j1mcTribe == alpha04:01
jtg23but i want to know more, so much more04:01
jtg23the coolest thing i know is strace -ewrite -ppid for watching my crons04:01
j1mcjtg23: you should be ok with the alternate install version then.04:01
j1mci typically recommend the alternate installer unless you know that you need the live session for some reason.04:02
Jester45the coolest thing i know is running 4 xservers :)04:02
j1mcthe alternate moves a little faster . . .04:02
j1mcJester45: how do you do that?04:02
jtg23oh i gotcha, thanks for the tip..i can survive a command line install04:03
Jester45i think it moves faster only only becuase its not running a full desktop along with it but your not distracted by anything04:03
Jester45its not really a cli install that much04:03
Jester45its has menus and color04:03
Jester45not what a lot of people would think would you say cli04:03
j1mcjtg23: yeah, it's not command line . . . just a basic xcurses interface - pretty spartan, but still graphical.04:03
j1mcs/xcurses/ncurses04:04
Jester45j1mc, you can start extra xservers and put them on extra F# buttons04:04
j1mcJester45: do you do that for any special reason?04:04
jtg23to brag on irc04:04
jtg23i'd do it too04:04
jtg23that's pretty sweet, wait till you get spaces04:04
j1mcok... sorry, guys . . . i've got to run.  have a good day, evening, morning . . . depending on where you are.  :)04:05
j1mctake care.04:05
jtg23k, thx for teh tips04:05
Jester45and... when you need to get really fancy you have special configs for each so each can run 2 on card 1 and 2 on card #204:05
j1mcttyl04:05
Jester45i have 2 video card and i use both of them but one isnt beryl matterial so i have a moniter with beryl and a non beryl moniter04:06
Jester45and whats really cool is that each new xserver you start you can have a diffrent xfce stuff like if i have my dfault xfce settings the new xserver can have a diffrent one so i can have really small panels but they dont have the same cpu meter on them04:07
jtg23are we not talking about macs?04:12
jtg23xservs?04:12
jtg23heh04:12
Jester45an xserver is what runs your gui on linux04:14
jtg23right04:16
jtg23you mean having 4 desktops?04:16
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logmeinhey again everyone04:55
logmeinclose friend of mine recently got a new computer and it came with vista so he wanted to switch over to xubuntu, it has an ATI mobility radeon x1400. How are drivers for that card?04:56
logmeinjust wondering if anyone here using it :)04:57
logmeinwow everyone so quiet today heh05:00
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Jester45just a min i will look it up05:05
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Jester45you have to use the aglrx driver to get 3d support05:07
zephidlogmein: It should work out-of-box, but if you want dri, you most install the restricted drivers from ati05:11
logmeinzephid: yeah ati drivers haven't worked so far from my experience...05:12
logmeinperhaps just older cards I've tried05:12
logmeinJester45: aglrx yeah will check into that thx05:12
Jester45logmein, thats if you want it acellerated, once he installs and boots he can run the restricted drivers manager to install it05:13
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Jester45hi somerville3205:13
zephidMy laptop has an Radeon 9700, it works with any problems05:13
zephida*05:13
logmeinzephid: kool, I got radeon 9600 in one comp about to install xubuntu to05:14
Jester45can live cds be made to work like a harddrive? re writeable cd acourse05:15
logmeinI highly doubt it05:15
zephidJester45: Nope05:15
logmeintry using a usb stick for that instead05:15
somerville32Hiya Jester4505:15
Jester45how about a dvd, can they be partitioned?05:15
zephidIt's techical impossible, use USB sticks as logmein suggested05:15
logmeinyeah if you use ext3 writeback file system on usb and export most your configurations to floppy its not too bad for mobile setup05:16
logmeinits like a flash drive orgy up on my computer so many blinky lights....05:17
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logmeinoh and yes a dvd can be partitioned05:18
logmeinlike if you want to hide an encrypted sector for some of your private goodies05:19
Jester45but you can write to it from the same disc05:19
logmeinhuh?05:19
Jester45no im more wanting to beable to run a livecd and save stuff to it also05:20
logmeinJester45: sorry my brain little fried, mom doing photo archives on windows most the day.. I so miss umount command :(05:20
Jester45so that is not just whats in the iso but what i install/download/upgrade while using it05:20
logmeinJester45: umm if you have enough ram then do toram option and burn on a separate disc05:21
logmeinunless you do have multiple drives05:21
Jester45i do05:21
somerville32Jester45: You can't do what you're asking05:21
Jester45ok05:21
logmeinthen what is the problem?05:21
somerville32You can use a usb driver for that but not a CD05:21
Jester45i just thought of how cool it would be to have my customised copy05:21
somerville32You can do that05:22
logmeinif its rewritable then yes you could do what your saying perhaps but you would have to not be using the live cd05:22
somerville32It is called remastering05:22
logmeinand would most likely screw up the image05:22
Jester45i know that but i still have only the stuff on the iso05:22
somerville32Jester45: Get a usb thumb drive05:22
Jester45i got one05:22
somerville32Then use that :P05:22
Jester45but im wanting to use it at other computers05:23
logmeinJester45: and thumb it all night long babe wheeee :P05:23
Jester45and only a few of them boot usb05:23
logmeinbut they do have usb though05:23
logmeinget a floppy to load the needed usb drivers05:23
logmeinor cd05:23
Jester45no floppy drives05:24
logmeincd?05:24
Jester45nor cd drives05:24
logmeinethernet?05:24
Jester45the only ones i found that boot usb have floppy drives05:24
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logmeinJester45: so they also don't have power?... hmm rub two sticks together and create a thermal electric power core?05:25
logmeinbut how to do that at bottom of ocean.... I am so lost :P05:26
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rukshello05:26
Jester45hi05:27
ruksi have a question if anyone can help me :)05:27
somerville32Shoot05:27
ruksi installed frostwire on ubuntu feisty fawn,but when i go to launch it it says this05:27
ruksOOPS, your java version is too old [java = 1.4.2-02] 05:27
ruksYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com05:27
ruksi already installed the sun java 6 jre from synaptics....05:27
ruksso how do i update to what i need05:28
logmeinhmm there lot of sun java stuff under synaptic05:28
logmeinI just installed the plugin and it gave me like 100mb of stuffs05:28
Jester45ruks, did you uninstall version 4?05:28
logmeinyeah that might be a problem too05:28
ruksno, i thought when i installed the new one it was kinda like an upgrade05:28
rukslet me try the uninstall05:29
Jester45i dont think so, try uninstalling java1.405:29
somerville32ruks: What happens is that all those versions want to use the same "name" for this commands.05:29
somerville32What happens is that a program manages possible alternatives for the name.05:29
somerville32update-alternatives --config java05:30
somerville32There is a GUI for it05:31
somerville32!galternatives05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about galternatives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
somerville32!galternatives05:31
ruksit says there are 3 alternative to select from05:32
somerville32Aye05:32
ruksi i see it05:32
somerville32Pick the correct version05:32
ruks1.4 is selected05:32
rukslol05:32
ruksu guys rock05:32
somerville32:)05:32
somerville32No problem!05:32
somerville32Always happy to help05:32
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ruksumm05:34
ruksdont knw much about bugs05:34
ruksi have tried to install beryl and i tried webilder for my desktop backgrounds,but both crashed my xserver and i had to reconfigure and fix my xorg05:35
ruksfix those somerville lol05:35
ruksi do have one problem,i installed amule but when i connect it says kad off and when i go to download the nodes for it in amule it wont let me or kicks me out of the program05:36
ruksany ideas?cuz i have looked and not found anything05:38
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logmeinruks- umm I use gnutella so no clue how amule works :/05:50
ruksok thanks anyway,i just know the search and download is supposed to be alot better on amule05:51
ruksive had problems with a few programs on here05:51
Jester45ruks, you have to get a list from the web05:51
ruksberyl,amule,webilder05:51
rukslol05:51
ruksok jester,i looked earlier05:51
Jester45then after you connect to someone on the list they will update you with mre nodes05:51
ruksu know where there might be some at?05:51
Jester45nope05:52
ruksok ill look some more05:52
ruksthanks05:52
somerville32I'm creating a blog to blog about Xubuntu stuff to put on the Ubuntu planet to help promote Xubuntu community and development. Any ideas for a name?05:59
grumpymolexublog06:00
Jester45nope... but do you need hosting?06:00
somerville32Nope06:00
Jester45anyone know how to remove a firefox extenstion without opening firefox06:00
somerville32http://kb.mozillazine.org/Uninstalling_extensions06:02
Jester45.... i cont open firefox06:03
Jester45nvm i got it06:04
Jester45i installed a windows only extenstion06:05
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Wiqid_Klow1I need some help i am having problems trying to install xubuntu on my desktop, it keeps on telling me that the partition has failed to install ext3 on hda06:57
Pumpernickelbug 10725906:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725906:57
Jester45Pumpernickel, how much space does a mirror for the all the iso take?07:00
Jester453 flavors, 2 diffrent archs?, 2 diffrent cd, plus mini iso07:02
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Amon-sanhi, i have only 96 MB ram on a machine. can i compensate by assigning more swap space?09:19
crimsunto a degree, yes09:24
Chikubuanybody know about old isa sound cards?09:24
Amon-sancrimsun: what would be a sane size?09:29
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crimsunAmon-san: I'd say at least 512 MB09:32
Amon-sanok, and how many MB/GB would be unreasonable?09:33
Amon-sani have 2 HDD 10 GB and 8 GB09:34
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Chikubuim running with 196mb on a 486!10:05
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xubuntu_user29can i install the latest nvidia geforce 8800 GTS driver through the Applications menu, or do i have to use terminal?10:15
Chikubuthere is a listing for nvida drivers in add/remove10:16
Chikubunot sure if yours is in there10:17
Chikubuthink its under system caegory10:17
Chikubucategory10:17
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bun-bunhi, i'm using xubuntu 7.04, and i managed to lose the bars at the top and bottom of my screen.  as such, i can't access the configuration menu anymore-- can someone tell me the name of the app?11:30
bun-bunthe app to change themes etc i mean11:30
Amon-sanxfce4-panel if i remember correctly11:31
Amon-san(for the bars)11:32
bun-bunthanks Amon-san , that worked.11:33
Amon-sanyou're welcome11:33
bun-buni have one issue that i can't figure out11:33
Amon-sani had the same problem11:33
bun-buni'm using xubuntu on my old laptop, and using the touchpad sometimes produces some weird results11:33
Amon-sanlike what?11:34
bun-bunlike it would change workspaces11:34
bun-bunor scroll the current window up and down11:34
Amon-sanoh  i have that on my laptop too. i'm puzzled what the caus eis tho11:34
bun-bunit's why i started messing with the themes and such11:34
bun-bunhow do you work around it?11:34
Amon-sanuse an external usb mouse11:34
bun-bunfor now i've killed all but one workspace to get around the workspace problem11:34
Amon-sanwindow scrolling when you just want wo move the cursor?11:34
bun-bunyes11:35
Amon-sansame happens here11:35
Amon-sanmust be the touchpad support that is buggy11:35
bun-buni'm thinking it's probably a "feature" rather than a bug11:35
Amon-sanhmm11:35
bun-bunin which case we should be able to disable it somehow... i'm gonna pore over the x config11:36
Amon-sanmaybe it's like that generic middleclick that lets you scroll in windows11:36
Amon-san(MS OS)11:36
Amon-sani'm not so much into digging deep in the config files11:36
bun-bunin Settings - Window Manager Tweaks - Workspaces i see a checkbox for "Switch workspaces using the mouse wheel over the desktop" option11:37
bun-bungonna disable that11:38
Amon-sanis there a scroll by mouse movement thingie?11:38
bun-buni'm still poking around11:38
darrendbun-bun: it's a feature called "mouse gestures"11:48
darrendusually dedicated to the margins of your touchpad.11:48
bun-bunthat's the term i was looking for-- how can i disable it?11:48
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darrendI think you can turn it off in the xorg config, but I don't know how.11:48
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darrendis it a synaptic touchpad?11:48
darrendgoogle will probably know11:49
bun-buni couldn't tell you offhand11:49
bun-bunlet me look.. it's an old hp omnibook xe211:49
darrendbun-bun: what's in your xorg.conf as the driver in the "InputDevice" sections?11:51
darrendthat will tell you11:51
darrendthere are some options here to control the touchpad that may or may not work:11:52
darrendhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad#Edit_xorg.conf11:52
bun-bunlooks like it's using ImPS/211:56
bun-buni take that back, it must be detecting as synaptics11:57
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test3ranyone around?  Sheep, u there? I got that 3COM wifi to test with, & it says it's working it's just not connecting02:20
test3rI have this sneaking suspicion that my router is blocking me on purpose because it is the same host name/ dif mac addy? Could it b doing that? My MAC access control is currently disabled on my router for obvious reasons (it is not a secure anything anymore)02:21
test3ranything anyone can input will help im sure02:21
test3r!host02:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about host - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:23
test3r!dns name02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
test3r!dhcp host02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhcp host - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
test3rOK apparently that setting is in the Networking options - i musta forgot. I'll try changing that see if it psyches it out02:26
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test3rOK - i went to my router config - and it says the wifi laptop is connected as attached device.02:29
test3rso something is wrong in the setup then.  =(  what would I need to -02:29
test3r!wifi02:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:29
test3rLoLs - theres an entry for "wifi w/ someone Elses router"02:30
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homebrewcidercan someone help me please, my windows and xubuntu feisy installs can't agree on a time, when I alter the time in one it screws up the time in the other02:39
test3rwhen trying to use windows on the same drive, durring setup, one should respond to "YES, my BIOS clock is set to local time"02:46
test3rNot UTC02:47
homebrewciderah, can I change that now?02:49
test3rIm not sure Ive never had to post-install. You should look for "time type change" or the such. or maybe "buntu UTC to Local"02:52
test3rthat way if there is an ubuntu article about it it will show up02:52
homebrewcidergot it mate, it's here, cheers    http://lilandra.com/blog/archives/category/linux/02:55
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topcat1027my panels disappeared on my desktop... how can i get them back?03:31
predaeus_topcat1027, try running xfce4-panel03:35
topcat1027how do i do that?03:36
predaeus_Applications/Accessories/Terminal   type in xfce4-panel   hit enter03:36
topcat1027all right sweet thanks03:38
topcat1027how do i make it so it starts up from the beginning03:39
topcat1027is it in bin?03:39
topcat1027and for some reason the panel closed when i closed terminal03:39
topcat1027actually i'm using konsole, but that shouldn't make a difference, right?03:39
predaeus_topcat1027, xfce should start it by default, you could add it to Applications/Settings/Autostarted Applications03:40
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iwksetopcat1027: you can avoid to use a terminal to launch the panel03:41
iwksetopcat1027: instead use alt-f203:41
topcat1027i just type in xfce4-panel as the command?03:41
iwkseand write xfce4-panel03:41
topcat1027ok sweet03:42
topcat1027so in the autostarted apps if i write xfce4-panel as the command i should be ok?03:42
iwksetake a look at xfce shorcuts system. it rocks03:43
topcat1027where can i take  alook03:44
topcat1027!xfce shortcut system03:44
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iwksesettings->keyboard settings03:45
topcat1027cool, thanks dudes03:48
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topcat1027i'm trying to get some of the icons of my desktop in desktop settings, but even when i uncheck them they stay there03:58
topcat1027how can i change the color of my panels?04:09
topcat1027or make them transparent like in gnome04:09
test3ri cant ping my router.04:09
test3rmy wifi is up and should be going fine as can be- but it refuses to connect04:09
iwksetopcat1027: it's everthing under settings04:13
topcat1027where in the settings? when i click customize panel there's nothing about color or transparency04:14
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rahim123anyone here know how to make Gaim's automatically connect and disconnect based on network status?04:31
rahim123using Networkmanager in Ubuntu 7.0404:31
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test3rok i found one file to change05:10
test3rbut then i found i had to change somehting rly deep kus i maybe got a old old wifi card im trying now05:11
test3r& i got too much setup. dont wana break it, rly05:11
TheSheepmake backup05:11
TheSheep!u | test3r05:12
ubotutest3r: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..05:12
test3reven works for  /etc/pcmcia/config.opts ??? if i change that it will still start in recovery?05:12
test3rso that i can cp the bakup bak over it?05:12
test3rno, u   ;p05:13
TheSheeprly, bbqwtf lol05:13
test3rOK, but how do i find a manfid for the card?05:14
test3rhpoj !05:14
TheSheepmanfid?05:14
test3r(holy piece of jeremy)05:14
test3ryes i have to hard code in the (manufaturers id?) of the thing05:15
test3rheh05:15
TheSheeplspci?05:15
test3rand iwconfig doesnt shot whta05:15
TheSheep/proc/bus/... ?05:15
test3rok - now that ur here lemme boot er up with that bak in it. my old net works after just copying bak old file & using simple GUI network settings to diable/reenable connect05:16
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test3rlol my interface is working even with 'wlan0' still enabled in a file05:18
test3r(my orig madwifi drivers use ath0 and wifi0)05:19
test3rok05:25
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test3rwhen i run "sudo pccardctl ident" i get "socket 0: no product info available"05:25
test3rbut i iknow what drivers im using and they appear to be loaded05:25
test3rand they should be the correct ones. i have "wmaster0" and "wlan0" showing up- BUT- they say i have bad network ID and bad encryp - even though all i have to do is switch out cards - leave all names / passes intact, and then I have net05:26
test3ri tried spoofing the mac now too05:26
test3rno dice05:27
test3rbut maybe i need to add er into this last bit05:27
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test3rbut i need a manufacuter id    =(05:27
test3rit says in your FAQ if i get no output from that test - the memory of the card cannot be read.05:28
test3rthats the sucks.05:28
test3ris it because it is broke? or just very old? i wonder which it is05:29
test3rI hope this info helps us fix something    =)05:33
test3rOK - also -05:34
test3ri just checked  /bin/dmesg  , and it says it is authenticating with AP success and associated too05:34
test3rwhich is a good sign05:35
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Tenaciousmetalcan someone help me?06:13
Tenaciousmetali have some problem with usb06:13
Tenaciousmetaland permissions06:13
predaeus_just ask and give details, usb problems should not be limited to xubuntu, you could also ask in #ubuntu since xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu should share the same usb backends06:14
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topcat1027hi, i was messing with the windows effects tweaks, and the column on the far right, i forget what it's called, but i checked it, and everything froze... when i restarted nothing will load. i get to the splash screen, log in, but nothing comes up, just a blank screen with the mouse06:16
Tenaciousmetalwhen i insert a usb pndrive06:18
Tenaciousmetalthe icon appear on the desktop06:18
TheSheep!beryl | topcat102706:18
ubotutopcat1027: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:18
Tenaciousmetalbut then i have to manually mount it06:18
Tenaciousmetalwith sudo privileges06:18
Tenaciousmetalso in thunar the pen drive06:19
Tenaciousmetalcan only be read06:19
topcat1027i'm on xubuntu06:20
topcat1027or was06:20
topcat1027right now i'm on a different computer06:20
TheSheepTenaciousmetal: are you using the defult use that was created during installation, or a newly created one?06:20
topcat1027cuz my xubuntu one isn't working06:20
Tenaciousmetala new one with my name06:20
TheSheeptopcat1027: I think the #ubuntu-effects is for all kinds of *ubuntu06:20
TheSheepTenaciousmetal: then add yourself to groups allowing you to mount the devices06:21
Tenaciousmetalis there a wiki on how to do that?sorry i'm new06:21
topcat1027i was in window manager tweaks, i selected compositor, then check enable display compositing06:22
TheSheep!groups06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
TheSheephmmm...06:23
TheSheep!users | Tenaciousmetal06:24
ubotuTenaciousmetal: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo06:24
topcat1027nevermind, got it all figgered out, thanks dudes06:24
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Tenaciousmetalmany thanks06:25
TheSheepTenaciousmetal: they don't discuss the groups in detail there :/06:25
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gerrohello08:03
BFTDhey08:04
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sigmamu188hi08:11
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gerrosigmamu188: how things going08:18
sigmamu188gerro: well, and you?08:19
gerroah fine08:20
gerrojust testing out this linksys wusb54gs wireless adapter, supposedly have to edit the power settings to get it working08:20
sigmamu188gerro: so i can assume it is working?08:21
gerrosigmamu188: you have any trouble burning cds?08:21
gerrooh yeah its going fine just tuning up the performance08:21
sigmamu188gerro: not really, still looking for a good dvd burning software08:22
gerroI use k3b and xfburn usually08:22
gerrobut my laptop doesn't seem to want to burn cds08:22
gerrothink I did a few back when I was on edgy.. can't quite remember08:23
gerrohmm maybe that the other computer I'm thinking of08:23
gerrosigmamu188: you game much on wine?08:24
sigmamu188No08:24
sigmamu188I gtg08:24
gerroaww didn't get to say goodbye08:26
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felicianoHi... I've a problem with my pendrive... Always I try to delete all the files Xubuntu create a folder called ".trash-1000" and never get all the free space08:48
felicianoPlease Help me08:48
felicianoobody got this problem08:49
feliciano??08:49
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servaas-xubuntu-hoi08:51
gerrofeliciano: actually the .trash-1000 I think is created by a windows computer08:52
felicianogerro... I dont think that... I got this when I try to delete files08:52
gerrofeliciano: well usually I delete the files then remove them from trash and unmount the drive08:53
gerrowhen you remount it won't have those files08:53
felicianoLet me see08:53
servaas-xubuntu-de number 1000 is the user id ?08:55
felicianogerro in properties I see 118 Mb free space... and the USB pendrive is 1 Gb...08:55
servaas-xubuntu-also deleted files on a pendrive and xfce ? placed a .trash-1000 on my stick with all the files in it some protection i think08:57
felicianoservaas-xubuntu- same problem here08:58
gerroyeah usually systems don't delete files permanently just mark them to be overwrited08:58
gerrobut that shouldn't be factored into your free space08:58
servaas-xubuntu-it is a protection thing in xfce08:58
servaas-xubuntu-if i remember it right i did a sudo rm or something or emptied the trash08:59
zialsmhmm, well, I just cut/paste the .trash1000 folder into my trash09:00
servaas-xubuntu-and then it was gone09:00
gerroemptying your recycle bin thing probably would delete the .trash file on your usb I suppose09:00
servaas-xubuntu-and if you remove de .trash you get a new .trash in a .trash and so on09:01
felicianozials... cut and paste work?? get you all free space??09:01
zialsyup...09:01
zialsor, I think it did...09:02
zialsgive it a shot, its only trash ;)09:02
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felicianoI'm deleting .trash-1000 folder from thunar as root (sudo thunar) but It's taking a lot of time09:04
felicianosomebody use drivel???09:08
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felicianoI got segmentation fault when I run drivel ... some idea??09:14
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LectusHello09:21
LectusHow can I install my webcam on Xubuntu?09:21
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predaeus_!cam | Lectus09:21
ubotuLectus: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:21
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rijoIve just installed xubuntu on my workstation, but the fps for my screen are so sucky, and i cannot choose higher fps in settings for the screen res.. how can i change the fps and is there any tool/driver i need to get better peformance?09:23
predaeus_rijo, what gfx card?09:26
rijopredaeus_: geforce4 ti09:27
rijoive installed the restricted drivers for nvidia09:27
maxamillionrijo: did you configure X after you installed them or just install them?09:28
rijomaxamillion: i jsut installed em, whats the command to reconfigure x?09:28
predaeus_also I think you need the legacy restricted drivers09:28
maxamillionrijo: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and tell it to use the driver called "nvidia" instead of "nv" or "vesa" (which is what i assume is being used now)09:29
maxamillionrijo: then when you restart X, there should be a nvidia logo that shows right before you see the login window09:29
rijomaxamillion: according to xorg.conf the driver atm is "nvidia"09:30
maxamillionrijo: interesting09:30
maxamillionrijo: when you boot your computer, do you see a nvidia logo before the login screen?09:30
Lectuspredaeus_, I installed easycam2 from that instructions, but when I type lauchcam2 it says:  ImportError: No module named gnome.ui09:31
rijomaxamillion: nop, but i see in xorg.conf that NoLogo option is "Trur" so that aint strange :P09:31
Lectusand doesn't start the .py file09:31
rijotrue*09:31
maxamillionrijo: ah, ok09:31
maxamillionrijo: i like seeing the logo so i know nothing get messed up (sometimes updates/upgrades mess with your config files)09:31
predaeus_Lectus, oh no, looks like they based that on gnome things. Looks like you need to install some gnome python libs for that to work09:32
Lectuswhat libs?09:32
rijomaxamillion: under section monitor it just say "standard screen" and no identifyer09:32
predaeus_Lectus, I don't know, the one that holds gnome.ui.py or whatever (not sure how python is made up)09:33
predaeus_Lectus, use apt-file to search what package is providing this09:33
predaeus_Lectus, or http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:33
maxamillionrijo: that's fine ... it generally just gives that some random name09:33
rijook09:34
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Lectuspredaeus_, I'm installing the python-gnome2-dev... I guess it must be this package09:40
Lectusyes... it worked09:40
predaeus_good :-)09:40
rijowhat was the command to reconfigure x u said?09:41
Lectusnow, the problem is with easycam =\09:41
maxamillionrijo: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:41
Lectusit gives me an error when making the driver09:41
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rijohow i restart x from consol?09:45
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rijodounf it09:46
rijofound it*09:46
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servaas-xubuntu1.trash-100009:47
kilonuxhello!09:50
kilonuxneed help with my lan network connection09:51
hyper_chIn a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?09:52
maxamillionkilonux: what's up?09:52
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hyper_chmaxamillion: I guess it's not working for hime ;)09:53
servaas-xubuntu1repartitioned formatted pendrive ... placed 1 file in it  and removed it  then the file is in the .trash-1000 and also in de the trash after emptying the trash the file is gone in both the trash and the .trash-1000 on the pendrive09:53
kilonuxi talk to you through windows.... because xubuntu dont connect no more09:53
hyper_chkilonux: this means it did work at some point?09:54
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: that's correct behavior, according to the freedesktop.org specification09:54
maxamillionkilonux: do you connect wirelessly? ... dhcp, static, proxy?09:54
hyper_chhiho TheSheep maxamillion09:55
maxamillionhi hyper_ch09:55
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kilonuxethernet09:55
kilonuxand there is a router09:56
maxamillionkilonux: yeah ... should just connect09:57
servaas-xubuntu1but removing the .trash-1000 on the pendrive respawns (?) another .trash-1000 with the previous .trash-1000 in it  removing this creates a new .trash-1000 so it will always exist and theorethically you can fill up the drive with removed .trash-1000 ?09:57
kilonuxwhere could i find help to fix that?09:57
servaas-xubuntu1what is standard ethernet setup for internet ...09:59
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kilonuxdont ask me...10:00
servaas-xubuntu1hehe10:00
vbanaitany abbr. expander like autohotkey or phrase express for ububuntu10:00
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servaas-xubuntu1is de hardware not damaged . every needed cable connected . the correct driver installed . the services devices protocols correctly configured . etc10:03
kilonuxit works when I boot win10:04
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: remove that .trash while holding down shift10:04
servaas-xubuntu1i ll try that thegeek eeh i mean the sheep thanks10:05
servaas-xubuntu1works10:05
servaas-xubuntu1but if i remove another file in future it will be back i think10:06
servaas-xubuntu1i have only experience with wifi10:07
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux what about ifconfig in terminal ?10:07
kilonuxit looks fine10:08
servaas-xubuntu1do you want internet connection or something else ?10:09
kilonuxonly internet10:09
kilonuxbut my internet box has a router10:09
kilonuxactivated10:09
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: I'm not sure about it, but there may be a way to disable trash for specified volumes...10:09
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servaas-xubuntu1you tried the menu-system-network program ?10:10
kilonuxyes10:10
servaas-xubuntu1what did you do there ?10:10
kilonuxit's on automatic10:10
servaas-xubuntu1what is on automatic ?10:10
kilonuxip10:11
kilonuxi think10:11
kilonuxor I'll have to reeboot and have a closer look10:12
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: the spec says that you can create a .Trash directory and then it will be used instead...10:13
servaas-xubuntu1the sheep in my /home/user/.trash?10:13
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: no, on the device10:14
TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: I see no option to disable it10:14
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux what about the other tabs in network program ?10:14
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TheSheepservaas-xubuntu1: maybe you'll have more luck: http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/trashspec.html10:14
kilonuxwhat should I look for?10:15
servaas-xubuntu1the sheep the trash function can not be disabled because of the stupid user deleting important stuff developer said somewhere on internet  readed it a minute or 10 ago dont no where10:17
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servaas-xubuntu1kilonux i have no experience with eternet just putting your eyes on it mayby you recognised something10:18
servaas-xubuntu1who is succesfull in setting up ethernet and wants to help kilonux kilonux wants some www on his system10:20
kilonuxthanks servaas,, BTW: how do you insert a name in front of your line?10:22
kilonuxi'm newbie...10:22
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux i dont know how your network card is talking to your router10:23
servaas-xubuntu1/etc/resolv.conf there isomething to do with your problem10:24
kilonuxwindows knows10:24
kilonuxsorry to say...10:24
servaas-xubuntu1howto name simple typing name text10:24
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hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: ???10:24
servaas-xubuntu1?10:24
servaas-xubuntu1what is hyper10:25
hyper_ch--> [22:24]  <servaas-xubuntu1> howto name simple typing name text10:25
kilonuxbut I d need years to type yours...10:25
servaas-xubuntu1make it ser10:25
servaas-xubuntu1SER10:26
servaas-xubuntu1i know you are talking to me10:26
servaas-xubuntu1so kilonux you have a dual boot system with winxp and xubuntu ?10:27
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andre_chinfrimi've just installed xubuntu 7.04 i386, and it has a little problem: it recognizes my USB speakers but there is no sound... help me please.10:27
hyper_chandre_chinfrim: does it recognize your audio card?10:28
andre_chinfrimyes10:28
servaas-xubuntu1hyper do you know something about setting up internet connection trough eternetcard and router ?10:29
targoHello i got a laptop with two monitor screen output. Both screen works however they show the same desktop view output on the screens. What happens on screen #1 is also viewed at screen #2. How can i have two independent displays. (Xubuntu xorg, xfce)10:29
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hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: well, switch router to dhcp if you want to... set your computer to dhcp.... connect them with a cable and it works10:30
hyper_ch!multi10:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:30
hyper_ch!monitor10:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:30
hyper_ch!video10:30
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications10:30
targoHmm?10:31
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux well, switch router to dhcp if you want to... set your computer to dhcp.... connect them with a cable and it works10:32
hyper_chbut then I prefer static IPs10:32
kilonuxif I want to.....   yes I'll try....10:32
servaas-xubuntu1well kilonux has the problem10:33
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: why do you ask then?10:34
servaas-xubuntu1ok hyper what ... to type where ... ? step by step ( sorry stealing your  time)10:34
servaas-xubuntu1because kilonux do not ask id it for him10:34
TheSheep!xinerama | hyper_ch10:35
servaas-xubuntu1he is a little bit passive but that is because of the big geeks here10:35
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ubotuhyper_ch: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead10:35
hyper_chTheSheep: that wasn't for me ;)10:35
hyper_ch!xinerama | targo10:36
ubotutargo: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead10:36
targohyper_ch, thanks to i would have two different views on each monitor? (Not the same desktop)10:36
targohyper_ch, what do i do with sis10:37
hyper_chtargo: no clue... I have one monitor and that one works just fine ;)10:37
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: ???10:37
servaas-xubuntu1yes10:37
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux talk ...10:38
servaas-xubuntu1ask for help10:38
kilonuxi dont really know what to say anymore...10:38
servaas-xubuntu1:-)10:39
kilonux:)10:39
kilonuxi'm looking at my router10:40
hyper_chkilonux: what is the problem?10:40
kilonuxxubuntu no connexion win yes10:40
kilonuxdual boot10:41
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux you want an internet connection with your powerfull ethernet card and your router but you dont know how you want help10:41
kilonuxit worked automatically since xubuntu install10:41
hyper_chkilonux: is the router set to dhcp? is the network connection in ubuntu activated and is it set to dhcp?10:41
kilonuxIm looking at it10:42
servaas-xubuntu1as  kilonux ... how do i set router to dhcp ?10:42
servaas-xubuntu1as kilonux is that a hardware button/switch or is it a software setting and where is it ?10:43
kilonuxi think it is a thing like this:10:43
servaas-xubuntu1:-)10:44
kilonuxNAT router giving not routable dhcp adresses10:44
kilonuxi dont understand all that,10:44
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux how do you get that info ?10:45
kilonuxsoft10:45
hyper_chkilonux: can you upload a screenshot?10:45
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux im playing you to ask the right questions10:46
kilonuxmy internet provider has  a page for this10:46
kilonuxdo you speak phrench?10:46
hyper_ch!fr | kilonux10:46
ubotukilonux: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:46
servaas-xubuntu1non je ne parle pas francais10:46
hyper_chje parle franais mais c'est a canal anglais dedans10:47
kilonuxi've been there but they are busy10:47
kilonuxhyper   do you know freebox?10:48
hyper_chkilonux: I don't konw freebox10:48
kilonuxtv telephone and internet in one pack10:49
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hyper_chkilonux: well, I don't know it10:49
servaas-xubuntu1how do i set router to dhcp ? is that a hardware button/switch or is it a software setting and where is it ?10:50
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: normally a software setting10:50
kilonuxservaas  I should not try to answer .... but I think hyper is correct10:51
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servaas-xubuntu1ok and where is it ? is it in the menu-system-network program ?10:52
hyper_chkilonux: when write names, use the "tab" button to complete the names... that way the people will be highlighted and they know they are directly spoken to10:52
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: for the router it's in the router config.... for the computer it's either in a file config - if you want to edit config files - or in the network settings10:52
kilonuxhyper_ch: thanks10:53
servaas-xubuntu1where can i find router config10:53
servaas-xubuntu1in /etc/router.conf ?10:54
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: depends on the router10:54
hyper_chnormally you enter the router IP in a browser10:54
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: maybe you need to use a special port10:54
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servaas-xubuntu1 kilonux readed that ? enter the ip of the router in the browser and set router to dhcp10:55
kilonuxread that10:56
hyper_chkilonux: well, read the user manual that you got with your router... it should say in there10:56
hyper_chkilonux: but by default dhcp is enabled on a router I tend to think10:57
servaas-xubuntu1now we are rolling10:57
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kilonuxbut how comes it just one day stopped working?10:57
hyper_chkilonux: dunno... did you restart the router after it stopped working?10:58
kilonuxyes10:58
hyper_chkilonux: that didn't help?10:59
kilonuxI must reeboot!10:59
servaas-xubuntu1ok hyper what is the next step after setting router to dhcp11:02
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux have fun with reboot hahaha11:02
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: setting the computer to dhcp11:03
kilonuxservaas-xubuntu1: not yet11:03
servaas-xubuntu1ok we will wait for kilonux for the next step ok ? else we ave to type twice11:03
servaas-xubuntu1ave = have11:04
servaas-xubuntu1ok he is still here11:04
servaas-xubuntu1ok hyper the next step (funny this)11:04
kilonuxsorry guys I'll have to continue tomorrow, I've got thins to study with this..  and i need sleep.11:05
kilonuxthings11:05
servaas-xubuntu1well kilonux make an appointment whit hyper ...11:05
hyper_chservaas-xubuntu1: you should also highlight11:05
kilonuxprefer mail11:05
servaas-xubuntu1for help with the other step11:06
servaas-xubuntu1hyper_ch: highligt11:06
servaas-xubuntu1kilonux: try to make an appointment with hyper for the next steps setting up your internet by irc mail real life jabber whatever11:08
kilonuxi give my email address to hyper here?  will you copy it hyper11:09
kilonuxor here some other night? I'm not sure for tomorrow11:11
servaas-xubuntu1O:-)11:11
kilonux?11:11
servaas-xubuntu1right clickin a chatname in user list gives ability to send personal message11:12
servaas-xubuntu1O:-)11:13
kilonuxaha!11:13
servaas-xubuntu1O:-)11:13

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