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Hobbsee | oh goody, my ISP mirrored the file | 02:32 |
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nixternal | whee | 02:36 |
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nixternal | Hobbsee: mind taking a look at bug 90548 for me please? I have attached a debdiff that fixes that boog. The auto-syncer already did a sync on smb4k 0.8.3 today, so I couldn't manually interact with it | 03:15 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 90548 in smb4k "smb4k in feisty hangs during session startup, waiting for DCop response" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90548 | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: why didnt debian take it? | 03:18 |
nixternal | well, they weren't looking at our bug I guess | 03:19 |
nixternal | I emailed the guy about it and havent' gotten a response back | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=smb4k&archive=no&sourceid=mozilla-search | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | package looks rather unmaintained | 03:20 |
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nixternal | Frankie just uploaded 0.8.3 | 03:20 |
nixternal | oh wow | 03:21 |
nixternal | he is just packaging, not triaging it seems | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | ooh yummy | 03:21 |
nixternal | actually, all of those outstanding bugs should be able to be closed | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | (can you close them, then?) | 03:22 |
nixternal | how can I close Debian boogs? | 03:22 |
nixternal | actually, smb4k needs to be relibtoolized | 03:23 |
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manchicken | crimsun: Kindly disregard my complete lack of due diligence in this one :) | 05:24 |
crimsun | not your fault. Sound is utterly unintuitive in Linux. | 05:25 |
crimsun | I'm very slowly working through the spec for that, but I really don't have the bandwidth to ensure it gets into gutsy. Definitely pushing for it, though. | 05:25 |
manchicken | I'm hoping to get a chroot set up so that I can get a little research done into my latest project for adept. | 05:27 |
manchicken | mhb needs to make a spec for that though I think... | 05:27 |
manchicken | Assuming we want a spec for everything. | 05:28 |
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manchicken | Wuddayaknow, the chroot is setting up properly. | 05:51 |
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manchicken | Feels good to be playing with some kubuntu for a little bit. | 06:02 |
manchicken | I haven't touched adept in a while. | 06:02 |
manchicken | Okay, any packagers in the house? | 06:07 |
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nixternal | manchicken: what's up | 06:12 |
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manchicken | nixternal: Trying to add missing adept dependencies | 06:14 |
manchicken | mmm... cornmash whiskey. | 06:14 |
manchicken | This is a fun one. | 06:16 |
manchicken | Anybody know what libtdb is? | 06:16 |
manchicken | heh | 06:16 |
nixternal | you read the apt-cache on that...very uninformative :) | 06:17 |
manchicken | Well, adept is looking for libtdb.la... which doesn't exist... | 06:18 |
nixternal | ahhh, probably because .la files are now stripped from -dev packages | 06:20 |
manchicken | libtdb doesn't have a -dev package. | 06:20 |
nixternal | not all -dev packages, but they are starting to do it...sorry, meant library packages in general | 06:21 |
manchicken | Ah. | 06:21 |
manchicken | Then we'll need to remove that dependency. | 06:21 |
manchicken | Ooh, libtool is doing that... | 06:22 |
manchicken | I'll try distcleaning it. | 06:23 |
nixternal | ahhh, you are being relibtoolized | 06:23 |
manchicken | No, that isn't helping either. | 06:27 |
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manchicken | Anybody know where the libtdb-dev package ran off to? | 06:50 |
crimsun | s/lib// | 06:51 |
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manchicken | Damnit. | 06:52 |
manchicken | You and your cleverness. | 06:52 |
manchicken | My wife put my whiskey in the freezer :( | 06:53 |
manchicken | It's too cold... | 06:53 |
manchicken | Man, we really need to spend some time on the UTF8 port for adept. | 06:56 |
manchicken | That could be included in the "why the hell are we using STL for a KDE app" port, too. | 06:57 |
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manchicken | Okay, if libtool gives me a dependency on libtdb.la again, I'm going to give my terminal the finger and go to bed. | 07:08 |
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manchicken | Okay, it's time to give the terminal the finger and go to bed. | 07:09 |
manchicken | Good night everybody. | 07:09 |
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mhb | Hobbsee: what's bug 121292 about? | 10:52 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121292 in ksudoku "test bug" [Low,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121292 | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | mhb: like it says, it's a test bug. apologies for the bugspam. | 10:53 |
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Hobbsee | mhb: it was using a greasemonkey script - i forgot that everyone woudl get emailed voer it :-S | 10:54 |
mhb | Hobbsee: they should have those scripts built in LP ... "Reject it with a polite apology" button, "Reject it and be rude" button ... | 10:55 |
Hobbsee | hahaha | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | that'd be good | 10:56 |
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Hobbsee | okay. VM's seem not to like going into hibernate. | 11:04 |
Hobbsee | hey cool. kdm broke. | 11:17 |
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mhb | has anyone got any experience with kdm4 = KDE4 kdm? | 11:38 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: it appears that we dont have a cmake.mk in cdbs - any plans to fix/ | 12:43 |
Riddell | there's copies of it in the packages that use it | 12:44 |
Riddell | I expect upstream will sort it out once cmake.mk has been better tested | 12:44 |
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Hobbsee | ah right | 12:45 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: so we wont dump it in cdbs, and save packages all putting it in indivually? | 12:46 |
Riddell | no, let upstream sort | 12:49 |
Hobbsee | cool | 12:49 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: how's amarok doing? | 01:07 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: doesnt build. | 01:08 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: why not? | 01:08 |
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Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> test -z "/usr/lib/kde3" || mkdir -p -- "/tmp/buildd/amarok-1.4.6/debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde3" | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> /bin/bash ../../../../libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -p 'libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' '/tmp/buildd/amarok-1.4.6/debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> libtool: install: warning: relinking `libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lamarok | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> libtool: install: error: relink `libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' with the above command before installing it | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] <Hobbsee> make[6] : *** [install-kde_moduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | shoved it onto another machine, but that wouldnt build until the akode breakage was fixed, and i forgot to restart it today | 01:09 |
Riddell | rocking, linker errors, my favourite | 01:09 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: want me to take a look? | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | heh | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, OK. | 01:09 |
Riddell | where can I find what you have? | 01:09 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/ | 01:10 |
Hobbsee | 30% [==========> ] 353,312 6.21K/s ETA 02:08 | 01:14 |
Hobbsee | oh *dear* | 01:14 |
Riddell | am I stealing your bandwidth? | 01:17 |
Hobbsee | no. but something is | 01:18 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: where that's hosted isnt my machien | 01:19 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: did you want to check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5651 ? | 02:00 |
Hobbsee | then i can upload | 02:00 |
Hobbsee | assuming it builds, etc, OK | 02:00 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: advocated | 03:01 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: thanks | 03:01 |
Riddell | well amarok compiled, but there's no .so on the end of the libraries | 03:05 |
Riddell | I detest autotools | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | ah right | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | machine is dying here - i cant look up webpages | 03:05 |
Riddell | shall I upload khlakithing? | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | [22:56] <Hobbsee> Jason: http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/snapshot8.png | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | [22:58] <Danni> that not look good | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | [22:59] <Hobbsee> 22:59:43 up 12:31, 1 user, load average: 8.63, 6.64, 4.19 | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | yes please | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | haha, khlakithing | 03:06 |
Riddell | wow, you used kinfocentre, I didn't think people really used that | 03:06 |
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Hobbsee | ther ewe go - updated snapshot. refresh again | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i find it outputs in a nice way | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | oh good. kubuntu is winning. | 03:09 |
Riddell | winning what? | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | an installer race | 03:23 |
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Hobbsee | asimon: reviewed your package, btw | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm installing a pristine kubuntu, and ubuntu in vmware. figured i'd run the install at the same time for each, to see which ran. *shrugs* | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | er, finished first | 03:25 |
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asimon | Hobbsee: Thank you :) | 03:28 |
apachelogger | Riddell: does it make sense to add a manpage even if an app doesn't have any CLI/start options? | 03:29 |
Riddell | apachelogger: debian will require it, it's nice to have but I'm not really fussed (which is why I advocated) | 03:31 |
apachelogger | Riddell: ok, thx | 03:33 |
manchicken | Riddell: Okay, I give. What dependency holds /usr/lib/libtdb.la or shuts libtool up about it with the latest revision of adept/ | 03:34 |
manchicken | I actually have a working chroot ready and can do a little hacking. | 03:35 |
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Riddell | tdb-dev has libtdb.so | 03:36 |
Riddell | but seems to lack the .la in gutsy | 03:36 |
manchicken | But libtool is screaming about the .la... | 03:36 |
manchicken | I'm not very knowledgeable about libtool. | 03:37 |
Hobbsee | hooray! machine didnt die! | 03:37 |
Riddell | in which case you probably needs to find which .la files still reference libtdb.la and recompile those | 03:37 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: That's always a good sign. | 03:37 |
Riddell | grep libtdb.la /usr/lib/*la | 03:37 |
manchicken | What is an .la? | 03:37 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: you did see the screenshot and load above, didnt you? | 03:37 |
Riddell | manchicken: libtool thingy | 03:38 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: That's insane. | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: *grin* | 03:38 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: That's what you get for running acroread. | 03:38 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: how'd you know i was running acroread? | 03:38 |
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manchicken | Two ways. Your task bar, and the Yahoo toolbar. | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | oh. it was supposed to take a picture of just the window. | 03:39 |
manchicken | There're only two things I know of with a Yahoo toolbar for GNU/Linux, acroread and the proprietary yahoo messenger client. | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: the bigger trouble was installing *ubuntu in 2 VM's, concurrently, while still running kubuntu. | 03:39 |
Hobbsee | kpdf didnt seem to let me want to have 2 pdf's open at the same time. i'm not sure why | 03:40 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: That'll do it. | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | on 1.5gb of ram? that'll do it. | 03:40 |
manchicken | Riddell: libapt-front and libtagcoll still reference libtdb.la in their .la files. | 03:40 |
manchicken | Is that a packaging thing? | 03:41 |
Riddell | manchicken: no, they probably just need recompiling | 03:41 |
Riddell | manchicken: compile them again and see if that fixed it | 03:42 |
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manchicken | Hobbsee: is that a Free Software virtual machine? | 03:47 |
manchicken | It'd be nice to find one of those :) | 03:47 |
Hobbsee|VM | manchicken: it's virtualbox. | 03:47 |
manchicken | Ah. | 03:47 |
Hobbsee|VM | it's...well, it can be free | 03:47 |
manchicken | What's the difference/ | 03:50 |
manchicken | Ah, they have description :) | 03:50 |
Hobbsee|VM | there's a couple of enterprise bits that you can add, if you want, which arent free | 03:51 |
manchicken | Hmm... I don't know if I consider some of those features "enterprise" or not. | 03:51 |
manchicken | USB and shared folders sound like pretty useful features for non-enterprise use. | 03:52 |
Hobbsee|VM | yeah - those are the ones why i picked the binary version. *shrugs* | 03:52 |
manchicken | Either way, their business model makes sense. It's very trolltech-like. I'll take that free software flava. | 03:53 |
manchicken | Except they don't have a binary package for that, do they? | 03:53 |
Hobbsee|VM | for which? | 03:54 |
manchicken | The Free Software version. | 03:54 |
Hobbsee | not sure | 03:54 |
Hobbsee | i didnt see any | 03:54 |
Hobbsee | but the other version worked without any dep problems, using the feisyt release. *shrugs* | 03:54 |
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manchicken | Riddell: libapt-front won't build without libtdb.la | 04:10 |
Riddell | manchicken: because it depends on tagcoll, do tagcoll first | 04:11 |
manchicken | I did.. | 04:11 |
Riddell | hmm, grump, I'll give it a try once amarok is done | 04:12 |
manchicken | I'll keep working at it. | 04:13 |
manchicken | Somebody has obviously gotten adept to build :) | 04:13 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: chewing gum and bits of string. | 04:13 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: I had a car like that once. | 04:14 |
Hobbsee | heh | 04:14 |
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Hobbsee | heck, half of the stuff at work is like that. | 04:14 |
Hobbsee | but soon, it becomes a case of SEP. | 04:14 |
Hobbsee | \o/ | 04:15 |
Riddell | groovy, amarok 1.4.6 is just as broken as 1.4.5 | 04:19 |
manchicken | Nice. | 04:20 |
ScottK | Nothing like consistency. | 04:20 |
Hobbsee | haha | 04:20 |
Hobbsee | how so? | 04:20 |
Riddell | freezes when playing stuff, as do other xine apps on my system | 04:21 |
Hobbsee | yummy | 04:21 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: can you send it to me? | 04:21 |
Hobbsee | (i386?) | 04:21 |
Riddell | uploading | 04:22 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i guess it is the 21st now.. | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: but they were asking for it to all be kept private until release | 04:23 |
Riddell | yes, that's normal | 04:23 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/amarok/ | 04:24 |
Riddell | compiles fine on feisty too, groovy | 04:29 |
Riddell | "WARNING: 'tagcoll2' is maintained in the 'Svn' version control system" huh? | 04:31 |
manchicken | Riddell: That's gotta be new. | 04:37 |
manchicken | Riddell: I'm wondering if recompiling libtagcoll-dev will fix the problem. | 04:38 |
manchicken | I only recompiled tagcoll | 04:38 |
Riddell | same source package | 04:38 |
Riddell | manchicken: oh, tagcoll and tagcoll2 are different | 04:43 |
manchicken | Ooh, and libtagcoll doesn't compile... | 04:43 |
manchicken | err, libtagcoll-dev | 04:43 |
Riddell | I always get lost in the adept dependencies | 04:43 |
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manchicken | Yeah. | 04:44 |
manchicken | Seems a bit much to be completely fscking honest. | 04:44 |
manchicken | I'm gonna recompile libtdb... | 04:45 |
manchicken | In the off chance that it might do something more than make me curse. | 04:45 |
Riddell | no | 04:46 |
Riddell | recompile libtagcoll | 04:46 |
Riddell | really, it should work | 04:46 |
manchicken | libtagcoll, tagcoll, tagcoll2, which one? heh | 04:46 |
manchicken | I'm running tagcoll now. | 04:47 |
manchicken | There doesn't seem to be a libtagcoll package. | 04:47 |
manchicken | Riddell: btw, I saw a 30 year old scotch in the liquor store the other day. $529USD | 04:49 |
manchicken | I doubt they sell much of that. | 04:49 |
Riddell | whisky? | 04:50 |
Riddell | I hope it's single cask at that price | 04:51 |
Hobbsee | mmm...whisky and whisky.. | 04:51 |
manchicken | Yeah. | 04:54 |
gnomefreak | libtagcoll2 is the package in gutsy | 04:54 |
manchicken | It's a single malt. | 04:54 |
gnomefreak | libtdb.la was pulled from whatever package provided it | 04:54 |
gnomefreak | hence the reason adept == FTB | 04:55 |
manchicken | I'm not showing that. | 04:55 |
manchicken | I install the newly recompiled deb and I still get /usr/lib/libtagcoll.la:dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libtdb.la' | 04:55 |
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gnomefreak | libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libtdb.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libtdb.la' | 04:56 |
Riddell | oh joy, libtagcoll has a compile error | 04:56 |
gnomefreak | that is what i get during adept build | 04:56 |
gnomefreak | Riddell: its libapt that causes that | 04:56 |
gnomefreak | mvo did something (changelog stated to fix compile errors in gcc 7.3) iirc | 04:57 |
Riddell | libapt makes libtagcoll fail to compile?? | 04:57 |
Riddell | they have nothing to do with each other | 04:57 |
gnomefreak | his apt update causes gcc to fail to compile correctly is how i understood it last night | 04:57 |
Riddell | er really? | 04:58 |
gnomefreak | explain why its in apts changelog than | 04:58 |
Riddell | how does apt affect gcc? | 04:58 |
gnomefreak | let me find it | 04:58 |
gnomefreak | * fixed compile errors with g++ 7.3 (thanks to | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | Daniel Burrows, closes: #429378) | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | * fix FTFBFS by changing build-depends to | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | libcurl4-gnutls-dev (closes: #428363) | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | thats in changelog for newest apt | 05:00 |
Riddell | a new g++ causing build failures I can believe | 05:02 |
gnomefreak | thats why ive been waiting for mvo to look over it again | 05:02 |
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nixternal | gnomefreak: I get a similar compile error with smb4k when doing the relibtoolization | 05:05 |
gnomefreak | nixternal: you will lol | 05:05 |
gnomefreak | we need mvo to fix what he did before anything dependant on g++ or apt is built | 05:05 |
nixternal | so when is the new g++ due out | 05:05 |
gnomefreak | nixternal: never lol | 05:06 |
nixternal | lovely | 05:06 |
manchicken | Nice. | 05:06 |
manchicken | So much for hacking adept :) | 05:06 |
gnomefreak | nixternal: its something mvo did i think but he was gonna look into it when i spoke with him this morning | 05:06 |
nixternal | good deal | 05:06 |
gnomefreak | manchicken: to hack you need it to build | 05:06 |
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manchicken | gnomefreak: Yup. | 05:07 |
gnomefreak | if he gets back to me ill let you know | 05:07 |
gnomefreak | s/if/when | 05:07 |
manchicken | My C++ is still a bit weak. | 05:07 |
nixternal | whew, so maybe I will be able to build this soon then | 05:07 |
manchicken | I make lots of small changes with frequent builds to make sure I'm not going too far from sanity without g++ bringing me back to reality. | 05:08 |
manchicken | I'm a bit more of a trial and error hacker ;) | 05:08 |
gnomefreak | takes too long to do it that way | 05:09 |
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gnomefreak | bzr is borked too | 05:09 |
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gnomefreak | most of gutsy mozilla packages i build is with bzr bd :( | 05:10 |
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manchicken | I'm thinking of putting some configgable paths in katapult. | 05:11 |
manchicken | That would scratch a serious itch for me. | 05:11 |
Tm_T | heh | 05:26 |
Tm_T | kubuntu.org down | 05:26 |
Tm_T | or does someone get it? | 05:26 |
Riddell | broken here | 05:28 |
Riddell | I see a sysadmin poking apache on that machine, guess it'll be back soon | 05:29 |
manchicken | Does anybody have katapult in bzr? | 05:29 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: you shouldnt have killed it. | 05:29 |
hunger | Yeah! knetworkmanager updates again! | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: parts of kde debian dirs are in bzr now, btw. | 05:30 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: Where? | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ iirc | 05:31 |
manchicken | I never knew that existed. | 05:31 |
manchicken | I think katapult is kdeutils... which doesn't seem to be in there... | 05:31 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: it didnt, until a couple of days ago | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: keep adding. | 05:32 |
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=== manchicken doesn't know how to add.... | ||
Hobbsee | manchicken: i stuck some links on the ML about it | 05:32 |
manchicken | The collaboration in kubuntu thread? | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 05:33 |
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Riddell | manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/tagcoll_1.6.3-1ubuntu1.tar.gz | 06:15 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/tagcoll_1.6.3-1ubuntu1.dsc | 06:15 |
manchicken | I'll debuild that and hopefully it'll help. | 06:17 |
Tm_T | whops, I got into Uni | 06:18 |
manchicken | Eh? | 06:18 |
Riddell | manchicken: then you need to do libapt-front again | 06:19 |
manchicken | Beautiful. | 06:19 |
manchicken | Riddell: I want to add some configurable paths to katapult. | 06:19 |
Riddell | paths to what? | 06:20 |
manchicken | I'm irritated that it doesn't let me choose which directory is my documents directory. | 06:20 |
manchicken | So I guess that's more of a path than paths... | 06:20 |
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Riddell | kwwii: about? | 06:29 |
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nixternal | does print preview work for anybody in KWord? | 06:45 |
nixternal | I swear it has never worked for me...ever :) | 06:45 |
Riddell | do you have kghostview installed? | 06:46 |
Riddell | works here | 06:47 |
nixternal | yes I do | 06:50 |
nixternal | all it does is act like it is loading the view, doesn't do anything else | 06:50 |
kwwii | Riddell: pong | 06:55 |
Riddell | kwwii: fancy doing a quick bit of photo editing for akademy? | 06:56 |
kwwii | Riddell: what exactly do you mean? | 06:56 |
Riddell | kwwii: of the first 8 photos, pick the best and get rid of the sky http://www.cis.strath.ac.uk/~kd/2007-05-01/ | 06:58 |
kwwii | so you want me to take one of the first eight fotos and simply edit out the sky? | 06:59 |
Riddell | kwwii: yes please | 06:59 |
kwwii | ok, I can do it in a bit, I'll let you know when I am done | 07:00 |
Riddell | probably photo 009 | 07:00 |
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apokryphos | he's the same guy that makes basket, right? He's never answered my mails too ;) | 07:26 |
DaSkreech | I hear basket has a new team now | 07:27 |
Riddell | he did post that he was abandoning basket | 07:27 |
DaSkreech | Yeah that got on the digest and garnered a decent thread on the dot | 07:29 |
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apachelogger | if he still doesn't answer, I might have to blog | 07:32 |
apachelogger | getting everyone to flood his inbox ] :-D | 07:32 |
apachelogger | muahahah | 07:32 |
apokryphos | DaSkreech: oh, didn't realise that they have got people for it already | 07:38 |
apokryphos | that's great news | 07:38 |
DaSkreech | I've heard rumours :) no one has pointed me to a grouping yet | 07:38 |
apokryphos | one of the best marketed+speedily created+well designed little apps I've ever seen | 07:38 |
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manchicken | Riddell: That version of libtagcoll you gave me seems to make things less stupid. Thanks. | 08:02 |
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kwwii | Riddell: http://sinecera.de/2007-05-01\ 009.ken.tif | 08:05 |
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amnesiac_ | hai folks | 08:08 |
DaSkreech | haiku | 08:09 |
amnesiac_ | very silent in here | 08:11 |
Riddell | kwwii: thanks | 08:11 |
kwwii | let me know if that is good enough | 08:11 |
kwwii | I played with the colors a bit too | 08:11 |
DaSkreech | `Who made it? | 08:12 |
DaSkreech | ^^ignore ^^ | 08:12 |
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manchicken | Riddell: So what all was brought into this version of adept? Because now I've got adept telling me it can't open the APT database... | 08:18 |
Riddell | manchicken: dunno, new apt I expect | 08:19 |
manchicken | I suppose. | 08:20 |
manchicken | do you have time to deal with this now or are you busy with something else? | 08:20 |
Riddell | manchicken: mvo is telling me it just needs a recompile | 08:25 |
Riddell | manchicken: but presumably you've already compiled it against new apt? | 08:25 |
manchicken | Yeah, but I'll make clean and try again. | 08:28 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: did anyone bring up using diffs for apt in gutsy? | 08:28 |
manchicken | s/clean/distclean/ | 08:28 |
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Riddell | DaSkreech: nope | 08:29 |
DaSkreech | Blast | 08:29 |
DaSkreech | apokryphos: if you can find concrete proof that basket has a standing forthe future let me know | 08:31 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: diffs of what? | 08:32 |
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mhb | good evening | 08:33 |
xerosis | hey mhb | 08:36 |
mhb | hi xerosis, how's gc? | 08:37 |
xerosis | not too bad, is someone still working on the back-end or do i need to get the writing working? | 08:38 |
mhb | xerosis: is writing not working? | 08:38 |
Riddell | gc? | 08:38 |
mhb | Riddell: grubconfig | 08:39 |
xerosis | mhb: it's not worked since i've been using it i'm pretty sure | 08:39 |
xerosis | not that i've really looked | 08:39 |
mhb | Riddell: xerosis was so kind and is now finishing my grubconfig attempt from last release | 08:40 |
xerosis | mhb: oh, some writing does actually work | 08:40 |
Riddell | great# | 08:40 |
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xerosis | mhb: how's gdebi-kde? | 08:41 |
xerosis | or whatever they're naming it | 08:41 |
mhb | xerosis: do you have the file grubconfig_backend_imp.py in your branch? | 08:42 |
manchicken | Riddell: I'm on a fresh distclean build of adept, and that's not cleaning up the apt database connectivity issue. | 08:42 |
mhb | xerosis: that should be the improved backend file, that person who worked on that sent it to me | 08:43 |
mhb | xerosis: it's not exactly backwards compatible, but he may have worked on fixing the bugs | 08:43 |
Riddell | manchicken: compiling now | 08:44 |
mhb | xerosis: it would be lovely if you could look at that and make it compatible with our frontend | 08:44 |
xerosis | mhb: i do indeed | 08:44 |
xerosis | mhb: also give me a ping on IM later, need to ask you some noob macbook questions | 08:45 |
mhb | xerosis: gdebi-kde is doing well, I just need to figure out a translation issue, then it will be even better | 08:45 |
mhb | xerosis: oh sure | 08:45 |
Riddell | mhb: did you talk to mvo about merging and uploading it? | 08:50 |
mhb | Riddell: not yet, because I don't really understand how to solve the translation issue | 08:51 |
Riddell | it's not a critical bug at this stage | 08:51 |
mhb | okay | 08:52 |
mhb | I'll talk about it with him | 08:52 |
Riddell | I can merge and upload if he's busy | 08:52 |
Riddell | (not that I'm not busy too of course :) | 08:52 |
Riddell | manchicken: I agree, it's broken | 09:04 |
manchicken | Yay! That makes me feel less stupid :) | 09:05 |
Riddell | the apt database could not be opened | 09:05 |
Riddell | sigh | 09:05 |
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apachelogger | Nightrose: ping | 10:07 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: pong | 10:07 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: sup? | 10:08 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: the upstream-tar consists of some files 2 times - identical files in the same directory | 10:09 |
Nightrose | tar doesn't like that and so does debuild | 10:09 |
apachelogger | ohhhh | 10:10 |
apachelogger | uhhhh | 10:10 |
apachelogger | sounds like kirocker! | 10:10 |
apachelogger | that evil p.... | 10:10 |
apachelogger | well | 10:10 |
Nightrose | ;-) rught | 10:10 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: bug upstream | 10:10 |
Nightrose | will do | 10:10 |
Nightrose | until then? | 10:10 |
Nightrose | delete them? | 10:10 |
Nightrose | one version of them that is | 10:11 |
apachelogger | uploading doesn't make much sense | 10:11 |
apachelogger | just imagine upstream doesn't fix it | 10:11 |
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Nightrose | ;-) | 10:12 |
apachelogger | ye should drop work alright | 10:12 |
Nightrose | :-/ k | 10:12 |
apachelogger | and tell upstream that it doesn't make much sense to work any further until he does fix the tarball | 10:12 |
Nightrose | ok | 10:13 |
apachelogger | which hopefully makes him actually do that | 10:13 |
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Nightrose | apachelogger: send mail - let's hope he fixes it | 10:24 |
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Nightrose | ;-) thx | 10:36 |
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gnomefreak | build-deps on debtags are libept-dev (>= 0.5.2), libept-dev (<< 0.6) 0.4.7 is in gutsy | 11:39 |
Riddell | needs someone to NEW libept | 11:41 |
Riddell | suppose I could but we're not ment to NEW our own packages | 11:41 |
crimsun | unfortunately seb just /quit not too long ago | 11:42 |
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Riddell | oh no, it's main inclusion review it needs | 11:43 |
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crimsun | really? source is definitely already published in gutsy/main | 11:44 |
crimsun | seems odd to allow source through if it hasn't been approved for main | 11:44 |
Riddell | yes, and building is waiting on main inclusion review of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportXapianCore | 11:45 |
Riddell | ok, kees says he should be able to do it today | 11:45 |
crimsun | ah, excellent. | 11:45 |
mhb | Riddell: by the way, how hard would it be to mobilize a C++ coder and get KDM support described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX ? | 11:46 |
Riddell | I don't know if using the login manager has been decided or not | 11:47 |
Riddell | there was talk of adding it directly to X, which is much more sensible | 11:47 |
mhb | Riddell: super-easy X/monitor configuration seems to be the killer for Gutsy, at least according to Keybuk's -announce mail | 11:47 |
Riddell | well the configuration is using stuff we've had for two releases | 11:48 |
mhb | Riddell: that I know | 11:48 |
mhb | I'd be happy if that "one release behind" stigma disappeared with Gutsy, so I was a bit scared when I read about the KDM support | 11:51 |
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Riddell | yes me too | 11:53 |
Riddell | but KDM code is difficult to touch | 11:53 |
Riddell | and having a change which needs every login manager to be updated is daft when it can/should be done in X | 11:53 |
mhb | I agree with that attitude | 11:54 |
mhb | someone should check whether they already agreed on that GDM approach or if the X approach is still possible | 11:55 |
Riddell | bryce is the dude to ask | 11:55 |
mhb | okay, I'll ask | 11:56 |
mhb | thank you | 11:56 |
mhb | hi vprints | 11:56 |
vprints | Good evening :) | 11:56 |
mhb | vprints: it's already night here :o) How are you? Feeling active? I think you could get the kubuntu-translators idea moving, if you wanted... | 11:57 |
vprints | uuh :) | 11:57 |
mhb | vprints: I'm tied up with summer of code and other stuff, so I'm not able to steer it forwards | 11:57 |
vprints | I am all ears | 11:57 |
mhb | vprints: well, the steps are quite clear: make noise about it on the mailing lists, get people to join that team we set up, then perhaps organize a meeting where we can talk what we want to achieve | 11:59 |
vprints | What could I be helpful with ? | 11:59 |
vprints | mkey | 11:59 |
vprints | are you coming to akademy ? | 11:59 |
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vprints | :) | 12:00 |
mhb | vprints: I would be coming if the year was 2003 | 12:01 |
mhb | vprints: but it's 2007, sadly | 12:01 |
vprints | hmm | 12:01 |
vprints | Someday I'll get the logic I hope :D | 12:02 |
mhb | vprints: the KDE meeting in 2003 was in Czech Republic | 12:02 |
vprints | I would like to make a meeting in Estonia | 12:02 |
mhb | vprints: 2007 is Scotland, the birthplace of Kubuntu, but not mine | 12:03 |
nosrednaekim | i;d like one in the US.. | 12:03 |
vprints | in a year when we have our song festival | 12:03 |
nosrednaekim | :-D | 12:03 |
vprints | that's really a special event | 12:03 |
vprints | in a good way | 12:03 |
vprints | :) | 12:03 |
mhb | vprints: now you're the administrator of ~kubuntu-translators | 12:04 |
vprints | Okay | 12:04 |
mhb | vprints: so you have all you need to get it moving :o) | 12:04 |
vprints | Will try my best | 12:04 |
mhb | vprints: you could write some mails inviting kubuntu translators to that team | 12:05 |
vprints | Absolutely | 12:05 |
mhb | vprints: or you can mention it on some forums | 12:05 |
mhb | vprints: thanks so much :o) | 12:05 |
vprints | np | 12:05 |
vprints | mhb, shall you come to ubuntu traslators ? | 12:10 |
vprints | channel :) | 12:11 |
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