=== ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Tribe 1 released! === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Jun 7 16:18:04 2007 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-129.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-008-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.57.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] oh goody, my ISP mirrored the file [02:36] whee === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ downloads === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] Hobbsee: mind taking a look at bug 90548 for me please? I have attached a debdiff that fixes that boog. The auto-syncer already did a sync on smb4k 0.8.3 today, so I couldn't manually interact with it [03:15] Launchpad bug 90548 in smb4k "smb4k in feisty hangs during session startup, waiting for DCop response" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90548 [03:18] nixternal: why didnt debian take it? [03:19] well, they weren't looking at our bug I guess [03:20] I emailed the guy about it and havent' gotten a response back [03:20] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=smb4k&archive=no&sourceid=mozilla-search [03:20] package looks rather unmaintained === Hobbsee wonders if you can nmu, for that first bug. [03:20] Frankie just uploaded 0.8.3 [03:21] oh wow [03:21] he is just packaging, not triaging it seems [03:21] ooh yummy [03:22] actually, all of those outstanding bugs should be able to be closed [03:22] (can you close them, then?) [03:22] how can I close Debian boogs? [03:23] actually, smb4k needs to be relibtoolized === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Tribe 1 released! === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Jun 7 16:18:04 2007 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg [05:24] crimsun: Kindly disregard my complete lack of due diligence in this one :) [05:25] not your fault. Sound is utterly unintuitive in Linux. [05:25] I'm very slowly working through the spec for that, but I really don't have the bandwidth to ensure it gets into gutsy. Definitely pushing for it, though. [05:27] I'm hoping to get a chroot set up so that I can get a little research done into my latest project for adept. [05:27] mhb needs to make a spec for that though I think... [05:28] Assuming we want a spec for everything. === xiuf [n=f@222.67.238.208] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xiuf [n=f@222.67.238.208] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [05:51] Wuddayaknow, the chroot is setting up properly. === freeflying is now known as freeflying|away [06:02] Feels good to be playing with some kubuntu for a little bit. [06:02] I haven't touched adept in a while. [06:07] Okay, any packagers in the house? === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] manchicken: what's up === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] nixternal: Trying to add missing adept dependencies [06:14] mmm... cornmash whiskey. [06:16] This is a fun one. [06:16] Anybody know what libtdb is? [06:16] heh [06:17] you read the apt-cache on that...very uninformative :) [06:18] Well, adept is looking for libtdb.la... which doesn't exist... [06:20] ahhh, probably because .la files are now stripped from -dev packages [06:20] libtdb doesn't have a -dev package. [06:21] not all -dev packages, but they are starting to do it...sorry, meant library packages in general [06:21] Ah. [06:21] Then we'll need to remove that dependency. [06:22] Ooh, libtool is doing that... [06:23] I'll try distcleaning it. [06:23] ahhh, you are being relibtoolized [06:27] No, that isn't helping either. === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Tribe 1 released! === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Jun 7 16:18:04 2007 [06:50] Anybody know where the libtdb-dev package ran off to? [06:51] s/lib// === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db445bf.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:52] Damnit. [06:52] You and your cleverness. [06:53] My wife put my whiskey in the freezer :( [06:53] It's too cold... [06:56] Man, we really need to spend some time on the UTF8 port for adept. [06:57] That could be included in the "why the hell are we using STL for a KDE app" port, too. === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:08] Okay, if libtool gives me a dependency on libtdb.la again, I'm going to give my terminal the finger and go to bed. === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:09] Okay, it's time to give the terminal the finger and go to bed. [07:09] Good night everybody. === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.57.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955D4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.83] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F0A43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPoin1yStick is now known as LongPointyStick === mhb [n=martin@162.43.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] Hobbsee: what's bug 121292 about? [10:52] Launchpad bug 121292 in ksudoku "test bug" [Low,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121292 [10:53] mhb: like it says, it's a test bug. apologies for the bugspam. === besonen_mobile [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:54] mhb: it was using a greasemonkey script - i forgot that everyone woudl get emailed voer it :-S [10:55] Hobbsee: they should have those scripts built in LP ... "Reject it with a polite apology" button, "Reject it and be rude" button ... [10:56] hahaha [10:56] that'd be good === Hobbsee tries out virtualbox a bit more === fabo [n=Fathi@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:04] okay. VM's seem not to like going into hibernate. [11:17] hey cool. kdm broke. === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [n=jr@jasmine.wyrdweb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:38] has anyone got any experience with kdm4 = KDE4 kdm? === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.57.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebbar [n=sebbar@p57B3D564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebbar [n=sebbar@p57B3D564.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === ubuntu_laptop [n=ubuntu_l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu_laptop [n=ubuntu_l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] Riddell: it appears that we dont have a cmake.mk in cdbs - any plans to fix/ [12:44] there's copies of it in the packages that use it [12:44] I expect upstream will sort it out once cmake.mk has been better tested === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:45] ah right [12:46] Riddell: so we wont dump it in cdbs, and save packages all putting it in indivually? [12:49] no, let upstream sort [12:49] cool === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-68-75.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] Hobbsee: how's amarok doing? [01:08] Riddell: doesnt build. [01:08] Hobbsee: why not? === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549546AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] test -z "/usr/lib/kde3" || mkdir -p -- "/tmp/buildd/amarok-1.4.6/debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde3" [01:08] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] /bin/bash ../../../../libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -p 'libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' '/tmp/buildd/amarok-1.4.6/debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' [01:08] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] libtool: install: warning: relinking `libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' [01:08] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lamarok [01:09] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [01:09] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] libtool: install: error: relink `libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la' with the above command before installing it [01:09] [Tue Jun 19 2007] [23:52:33] make[6] : *** [install-kde_moduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 [01:09] shoved it onto another machine, but that wouldnt build until the akode breakage was fixed, and i forgot to restart it today [01:09] rocking, linker errors, my favourite [01:09] Hobbsee: want me to take a look? [01:09] heh [01:09] Riddell: yeah, OK. [01:09] where can I find what you have? === Hobbsee is copying it somewhere public now [01:10] Riddell: http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/ [01:14] 30% [==========> ] 353,312 6.21K/s ETA 02:08 [01:14] oh *dear* [01:17] am I stealing your bandwidth? [01:18] no. but something is === Hobbsee downloaded 3 kubuntu cds today, all unmetered :) [01:19] Riddell: where that's hosted isnt my machien === aplg is now known as apachelogger === |sahin_w| [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] Riddell: did you want to check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5651 ? [02:00] then i can upload [02:00] assuming it builds, etc, OK === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away is now known as cynics === Zerlinna [n=mirjam@C28ed.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] Hobbsee: advocated [03:01] Riddell: thanks [03:05] well amarok compiled, but there's no .so on the end of the libraries [03:05] I detest autotools [03:05] ah right [03:05] machine is dying here - i cant look up webpages [03:05] shall I upload khlakithing? [03:05] [22:56] Jason: http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/snapshot8.png [03:05] [22:58] that not look good [03:05] [22:59] 22:59:43 up 12:31, 1 user, load average: 8.63, 6.64, 4.19 [03:05] yes please [03:06] haha, khlakithing [03:06] wow, you used kinfocentre, I didn't think people really used that === Hobbsee likes it! [03:08] ther ewe go - updated snapshot. refresh again [03:08] Riddell: i find it outputs in a nice way [03:09] oh good. kubuntu is winning. [03:22] winning what? [03:23] an installer race === asimon [n=asimon@dslb-084-058-217-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] asimon: reviewed your package, btw [03:25] Riddell: i'm installing a pristine kubuntu, and ubuntu in vmware. figured i'd run the install at the same time for each, to see which ran. *shrugs* [03:25] er, finished first === xerosis_ [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] Hobbsee: Thank you :) [03:29] Riddell: does it make sense to add a manpage even if an app doesn't have any CLI/start options? [03:31] apachelogger: debian will require it, it's nice to have but I'm not really fussed (which is why I advocated) [03:33] Riddell: ok, thx [03:34] Riddell: Okay, I give. What dependency holds /usr/lib/libtdb.la or shuts libtool up about it with the latest revision of adept/ [03:35] I actually have a working chroot ready and can do a little hacking. === damnchris [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] tdb-dev has libtdb.so [03:36] but seems to lack the .la in gutsy [03:36] But libtool is screaming about the .la... [03:37] I'm not very knowledgeable about libtool. [03:37] hooray! machine didnt die! [03:37] in which case you probably needs to find which .la files still reference libtdb.la and recompile those [03:37] Hobbsee: That's always a good sign. [03:37] grep libtdb.la /usr/lib/*la [03:37] What is an .la? [03:37] manchicken: you did see the screenshot and load above, didnt you? [03:38] manchicken: libtool thingy [03:38] Hobbsee: That's insane. [03:38] manchicken: *grin* [03:38] Hobbsee: That's what you get for running acroread. [03:38] manchicken: how'd you know i was running acroread? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387DDD7.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] Two ways. Your task bar, and the Yahoo toolbar. [03:39] oh. it was supposed to take a picture of just the window. [03:39] There're only two things I know of with a Yahoo toolbar for GNU/Linux, acroread and the proprietary yahoo messenger client. [03:39] manchicken: the bigger trouble was installing *ubuntu in 2 VM's, concurrently, while still running kubuntu. [03:40] kpdf didnt seem to let me want to have 2 pdf's open at the same time. i'm not sure why [03:40] Hobbsee: That'll do it. [03:40] yeah [03:40] hehe [03:40] on 1.5gb of ram? that'll do it. [03:40] Riddell: libapt-front and libtagcoll still reference libtdb.la in their .la files. [03:41] Is that a packaging thing? [03:41] manchicken: no, they probably just need recompiling [03:42] manchicken: compile them again and see if that fixed it === Hobbsee|VM [n=sarah@CPE-124-188-225-148.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:47] Hobbsee: is that a Free Software virtual machine? [03:47] It'd be nice to find one of those :) [03:47] manchicken: it's virtualbox. [03:47] Ah. [03:47] it's...well, it can be free [03:50] What's the difference/ [03:50] Ah, they have description :) [03:51] there's a couple of enterprise bits that you can add, if you want, which arent free [03:51] Hmm... I don't know if I consider some of those features "enterprise" or not. [03:52] USB and shared folders sound like pretty useful features for non-enterprise use. [03:52] yeah - those are the ones why i picked the binary version. *shrugs* [03:53] Either way, their business model makes sense. It's very trolltech-like. I'll take that free software flava. [03:53] Except they don't have a binary package for that, do they? [03:54] for which? [03:54] The Free Software version. [03:54] not sure [03:54] i didnt see any [03:54] but the other version worked without any dep problems, using the feisyt release. *shrugs* === ubuntu_laptop [n=ubuntu_l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee|VM [n=sarah@CPE-124-188-225-148.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [04:10] Riddell: libapt-front won't build without libtdb.la [04:11] manchicken: because it depends on tagcoll, do tagcoll first [04:11] I did.. [04:12] hmm, grump, I'll give it a try once amarok is done [04:13] I'll keep working at it. [04:13] Somebody has obviously gotten adept to build :) [04:13] manchicken: chewing gum and bits of string. [04:14] Hobbsee: I had a car like that once. [04:14] heh === Hobbsee has plenty of things like that [04:14] heck, half of the stuff at work is like that. [04:14] but soon, it becomes a case of SEP. [04:15] \o/ [04:19] groovy, amarok 1.4.6 is just as broken as 1.4.5 [04:20] Nice. [04:20] Nothing like consistency. [04:20] haha [04:20] how so? [04:21] freezes when playing stuff, as do other xine apps on my system [04:21] yummy [04:21] Riddell: can you send it to me? [04:21] (i386?) [04:22] uploading [04:23] Riddell: i guess it is the 21st now.. [04:23] Riddell: but they were asking for it to all be kept private until release [04:23] yes, that's normal [04:24] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/amarok/ [04:29] compiles fine on feisty too, groovy [04:31] "WARNING: 'tagcoll2' is maintained in the 'Svn' version control system" huh? [04:37] Riddell: That's gotta be new. [04:38] Riddell: I'm wondering if recompiling libtagcoll-dev will fix the problem. [04:38] I only recompiled tagcoll [04:38] same source package [04:43] manchicken: oh, tagcoll and tagcoll2 are different [04:43] Ooh, and libtagcoll doesn't compile... [04:43] err, libtagcoll-dev [04:43] I always get lost in the adept dependencies === hunger_t is now known as hunger [04:44] Yeah. [04:44] Seems a bit much to be completely fscking honest. [04:45] I'm gonna recompile libtdb... [04:45] In the off chance that it might do something more than make me curse. [04:46] no [04:46] recompile libtagcoll [04:46] really, it should work [04:46] libtagcoll, tagcoll, tagcoll2, which one? heh [04:47] I'm running tagcoll now. [04:47] There doesn't seem to be a libtagcoll package. [04:49] Riddell: btw, I saw a 30 year old scotch in the liquor store the other day. $529USD [04:49] I doubt they sell much of that. [04:50] whisky? [04:51] I hope it's single cask at that price [04:51] mmm...whisky and whisky.. [04:54] Yeah. [04:54] libtagcoll2 is the package in gutsy [04:54] It's a single malt. [04:54] libtdb.la was pulled from whatever package provided it [04:55] hence the reason adept == FTB [04:55] I'm not showing that. [04:55] I install the newly recompiled deb and I still get /usr/lib/libtagcoll.la:dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libtdb.la' === Hobbsee wonders if elkbuntu has developed a taste for that now. [04:56] libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libtdb.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libtdb.la' [04:56] oh joy, libtagcoll has a compile error [04:56] that is what i get during adept build [04:56] Riddell: its libapt that causes that [04:57] mvo did something (changelog stated to fix compile errors in gcc 7.3) iirc [04:57] libapt makes libtagcoll fail to compile?? [04:57] they have nothing to do with each other [04:57] his apt update causes gcc to fail to compile correctly is how i understood it last night [04:58] er really? [04:58] explain why its in apts changelog than [04:58] how does apt affect gcc? [04:58] let me find it [05:00] * fixed compile errors with g++ 7.3 (thanks to [05:00] Daniel Burrows, closes: #429378) [05:00] * fix FTFBFS by changing build-depends to [05:00] libcurl4-gnutls-dev (closes: #428363) [05:00] thats in changelog for newest apt [05:02] a new g++ causing build failures I can believe [05:02] thats why ive been waiting for mvo to look over it again === gnomefreak was thinking gcc sorry [05:05] gnomefreak: I get a similar compile error with smb4k when doing the relibtoolization [05:05] nixternal: you will lol [05:05] we need mvo to fix what he did before anything dependant on g++ or apt is built [05:05] so when is the new g++ due out [05:06] nixternal: never lol [05:06] lovely [05:06] Nice. [05:06] So much for hacking adept :) [05:06] nixternal: its something mvo did i think but he was gonna look into it when i spoke with him this morning [05:06] good deal [05:06] manchicken: to hack you need it to build === gnomefreak been working on it lastnight [05:07] gnomefreak: Yup. [05:07] if he gets back to me ill let you know [05:07] s/if/when [05:07] My C++ is still a bit weak. [05:07] whew, so maybe I will be able to build this soon then [05:08] I make lots of small changes with frequent builds to make sure I'm not going too far from sanity without g++ bringing me back to reality. [05:08] I'm a bit more of a trial and error hacker ;) [05:09] takes too long to do it that way === Hobbsee just cant code. [05:09] bzr is borked too === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54977F2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] most of gutsy mozilla packages i build is with bzr bd :( === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F0A43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak thought by tribe 1 tool chain had to be somewhat stable [05:11] I'm thinking of putting some configgable paths in katapult. [05:11] That would scratch a serious itch for me. [05:26] heh [05:26] kubuntu.org down [05:26] or does someone get it? [05:28] broken here [05:29] I see a sysadmin poking apache on that machine, guess it'll be back soon [05:29] Does anybody have katapult in bzr? [05:29] Tm_T: you shouldnt have killed it. [05:30] Yeah! knetworkmanager updates again! [05:30] manchicken: parts of kde debian dirs are in bzr now, btw. [05:30] Hobbsee: Where? [05:31] manchicken: code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ iirc [05:31] I never knew that existed. [05:31] I think katapult is kdeutils... which doesn't seem to be in there... [05:32] manchicken: it didnt, until a couple of days ago [05:32] manchicken: keep adding. === Hobbsee has exams and such on === manchicken doesn't know how to add.... [05:32] manchicken: i stuck some links on the ML about it [05:33] The collaboration in kubuntu thread? [05:33] yeah === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549546AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/tagcoll_1.6.3-1ubuntu1.tar.gz [06:15] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/tagcoll_1.6.3-1ubuntu1.dsc [06:17] I'll debuild that and hopefully it'll help. [06:18] whops, I got into Uni [06:18] Eh? [06:19] manchicken: then you need to do libapt-front again [06:19] Beautiful. [06:19] Riddell: I want to add some configurable paths to katapult. [06:20] paths to what? [06:20] I'm irritated that it doesn't let me choose which directory is my documents directory. [06:20] So I guess that's more of a path than paths... === sebbar [n=sebbar@p57B3DC52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:29] kwwii: about? === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F756E0.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:45] does print preview work for anybody in KWord? [06:45] I swear it has never worked for me...ever :) [06:46] do you have kghostview installed? [06:47] works here [06:50] yes I do [06:50] all it does is act like it is loading the view, doesn't do anything else [06:55] Riddell: pong [06:56] kwwii: fancy doing a quick bit of photo editing for akademy? [06:56] Riddell: what exactly do you mean? [06:58] kwwii: of the first 8 photos, pick the best and get rid of the sky http://www.cis.strath.ac.uk/~kd/2007-05-01/ [06:59] so you want me to take one of the first eight fotos and simply edit out the sky? [06:59] kwwii: yes please [07:00] ok, I can do it in a bit, I'll let you know when I am done [07:00] probably photo 009 === apachelogger is wondering whether going to france to kick kirocker's dev for not answering mails is meaningful === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=chatzill@dial-207-254-131-11.dyn.infochan.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away [07:26] he's the same guy that makes basket, right? He's never answered my mails too ;) [07:27] I hear basket has a new team now [07:27] he did post that he was abandoning basket [07:29] Yeah that got on the digest and garnered a decent thread on the dot === apachelogger just commented on the kde-apps content [07:32] if he still doesn't answer, I might have to blog [07:32] getting everyone to flood his inbox ] :-D [07:32] muahahah [07:38] DaSkreech: oh, didn't realise that they have got people for it already [07:38] that's great news [07:38] I've heard rumours :) no one has pointed me to a grouping yet [07:38] one of the best marketed+speedily created+well designed little apps I've ever seen === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] Riddell: That version of libtagcoll you gave me seems to make things less stupid. Thanks. === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] Riddell: http://sinecera.de/2007-05-01\ 009.ken.tif === amnesiac_ [n=amnesiac@151.141-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] hai folks [08:09] haiku [08:11] very silent in here [08:11] kwwii: thanks [08:11] let me know if that is good enough [08:11] I played with the colors a bit too [08:12] `Who made it? [08:12] ^^ignore ^^ === Arby [n=richard@82.152.177.123] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] Riddell: So what all was brought into this version of adept? Because now I've got adept telling me it can't open the APT database... [08:19] manchicken: dunno, new apt I expect [08:20] I suppose. [08:20] do you have time to deal with this now or are you busy with something else? [08:25] manchicken: mvo is telling me it just needs a recompile [08:25] manchicken: but presumably you've already compiled it against new apt? [08:28] Yeah, but I'll make clean and try again. [08:28] Riddell: did anyone bring up using diffs for apt in gutsy? [08:28] s/clean/distclean/ === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:29] DaSkreech: nope [08:29] Blast [08:31] apokryphos: if you can find concrete proof that basket has a standing forthe future let me know [08:32] DaSkreech: diffs of what? === mhb [n=martin@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] good evening [08:36] hey mhb [08:37] hi xerosis, how's gc? [08:38] not too bad, is someone still working on the back-end or do i need to get the writing working? [08:38] xerosis: is writing not working? [08:38] gc? [08:39] Riddell: grubconfig [08:39] mhb: it's not worked since i've been using it i'm pretty sure [08:39] not that i've really looked [08:40] Riddell: xerosis was so kind and is now finishing my grubconfig attempt from last release [08:40] mhb: oh, some writing does actually work [08:40] great# === xerosis is glad he changed it to use an example config file... [08:41] mhb: how's gdebi-kde? [08:41] or whatever they're naming it [08:42] xerosis: do you have the file grubconfig_backend_imp.py in your branch? [08:42] Riddell: I'm on a fresh distclean build of adept, and that's not cleaning up the apt database connectivity issue. [08:43] xerosis: that should be the improved backend file, that person who worked on that sent it to me [08:43] xerosis: it's not exactly backwards compatible, but he may have worked on fixing the bugs [08:44] manchicken: compiling now [08:44] xerosis: it would be lovely if you could look at that and make it compatible with our frontend [08:44] mhb: i do indeed [08:45] mhb: also give me a ping on IM later, need to ask you some noob macbook questions [08:45] xerosis: gdebi-kde is doing well, I just need to figure out a translation issue, then it will be even better [08:45] xerosis: oh sure [08:50] mhb: did you talk to mvo about merging and uploading it? [08:51] Riddell: not yet, because I don't really understand how to solve the translation issue [08:51] it's not a critical bug at this stage [08:52] okay [08:52] I'll talk about it with him [08:52] I can merge and upload if he's busy [08:52] (not that I'm not busy too of course :) [09:04] manchicken: I agree, it's broken [09:05] Yay! That makes me feel less stupid :) [09:05] the apt database could not be opened [09:05] sigh === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso === luis_lopez [n=Miranda@68.182.88.100] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7215E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-188.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebbar [n=sebbar@p57B3DC52.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N904P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] Nightrose: ping [10:07] apachelogger: pong [10:08] Nightrose: sup? [10:09] apachelogger: the upstream-tar consists of some files 2 times - identical files in the same directory [10:09] tar doesn't like that and so does debuild [10:10] ohhhh [10:10] uhhhh [10:10]