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(ScottK/#ubuntu-bugs) Unfortunately that leaves a lot of people actually fixing bugs out.01:26
(ScottK/#ubuntu-bugs) Not the way to make it easy to contribute.01:26
ubotuNew bug: #121259 in dpatch (main) "dpatch must depend on dpkg-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12125901:35
rbs-titoI'm working on a firefox bug, are the .js files written in javascript?01:38
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rbs-titohttp://www.pastebin.ca/577581 I have added the part starting with line 2, would this code work for adding a trailing slash to firefox bookmarks? It is in the addbookmark.js source file in firefox for bug 12072001:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120720 in firefox "Bookmark image icons" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12072001:43
rbs-titomake that http://www.pastebin.ca/57758501:44
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ubotuNew bug: #121260 in devscripts (main) "devscripts must depend on fakeroot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126001:46
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calcanyone happen to know what package MgOpen Cosmetica font is in?02:00
calcduh i found it, heh /me hands himself apt-cache search02:01
rbs-titothis is scary, recompiling mozilla!02:04
rbs-tito*firefox02:04
rbs-titoI want to check if my patch works02:04
calcshould security bugs be marked as critical?02:05
bdmurraynot necessarily02:07
rbs-titobdmurray: If my firefox patch works do I upload a .patch file, the same way I did with the others?02:07
bdmurrayprobably - the mozilla team does have their own workflow though02:09
calcok02:09
calci marked the one outstanding security bug in ooo as critical02:10
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calcprobably good to set it that way to make it stand out more02:10
rbs-titoAh well, If I do it I'm sure they will be able to suss it out02:10
calcand it needs fixing asap so critical kind of implies that ;)02:10
pochucalc: also, if there's a CVE about it, you can mark it as security and mention the CVE02:10
rbs-titoRunning diff on firefox is going to take years02:12
keescookcalc: have you chated with doko about doing builds with the fix for that OOo CVE?02:19
ubotuNew bug: #121262 in openssh (main) "ssh-copy-id is out-of-date" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126202:21
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rbs-titocompiling firefox is like pulling teeth02:22
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calcHobbsee: good evening02:31
Hobbseehi calc02:32
calcHobbsee: i think i managed to successfully triage around 110 bugs or so on OOo02:33
calcand close maybe ~ 50 but not really sure02:33
Hobbseecalc: yay!02:34
calcat least 20+ anyway, i didn't keep good track02:34
calcthe overall number of bugs went down ~ 41 or so over that time period including new bugs filed02:34
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ubotuNew bug: #121264 in Ubuntu "graphics acceleration is disabled on second X session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126402:35
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ubotuNew bug: #121265 in logwatch (universe) "logwatch should depend on exim4 instead of exim (which is exim3)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126502:40
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ubotuNew bug: #121266 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice does not start: abnormal early exit ..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126602:50
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pdenapoHi03:00
rbs-titohi03:00
ubotuNew bug: #121267 in update-manager (main) "a fatal error of dist-upgrade at Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126703:00
pdenapoI'm a bit disappointed by a bug in ubuntu: that it can't detect the serial mouse03:01
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pdenapothe problem is reported at launchpad03:01
pdenapoit's important for the usability03:01
pdenapobut nobody seems to care03:02
Hobbseedoes it have enough information?03:02
pdenapoI would sugest to add an option at boot time for using a serial mouse03:02
Hobbseeis it in the right place?03:02
pdenapohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/906803:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 9068 in xorg "Serial mice are not autodetected" [Medium,Confirmed] 03:03
pdenapoI mean, for advanced users like myself03:03
pdenapoof course I can edit the xorg.conf file by hand and kill the X server process03:04
pdenapobut it makes no sense to ask newbbies to do that03:04
pdenapoand in my county (Argentina) computers with serial mouse are still common03:05
Hobbseei thought it already *did* detect serial mice03:05
Hobbseedid mine, last i checked03:05
pdenapoI've tested Ubuntu 7.04 and Kubuntu 7.0403:06
pdenapoand knoppix for example, does it fine03:06
pdenapoif the serial mouse fails to be detected, you cannot really use the live cd03:09
pdenapothat's why the bug is really serious03:09
pdenapoI think that autodection is great when it works03:09
pdenapobut can be catastrofic when it happends to fail03:09
pdenaposo I would suggest to add an option at boottime to bypass it03:10
Hobbseeerk.03:11
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Hobbsee(darn getting pinged in 2 channels at the same time)03:12
Hobbseepdenapo: i'd probably bring that up on the ubuntu-devel mailing list03:12
pdenapoHobbsee: I've tried to send a mail to ubuntu-devel03:12
pdenapobut as it is a closed mailing list03:13
pdenapomy mail was rejected03:13
Hobbseemoderated or rejected?03:13
pdenaporejected by the moderator03:13
Hobbseedid they give a reason?03:13
ajmitchubuntu-devel-discuss then03:13
pdenapohe sugest me to send it there03:14
Hobbseethen did you send it there?03:14
pdenapohowever, I've done so... and I can't see my mail there03:14
ScottKpdenapo: Did you subscribe to the list?03:15
pdenapono03:15
pdenapoI'm not a ubuntu developer03:15
ScottKpdenapo: devel-discuss is an open list.  You need to subscribe or your mail gets moderated.03:15
ubotuNew bug: #121269 in firefox (main) "certain youtube videos dont work" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12126903:16
pdenapoI'm just wanted to point-oout one issue03:16
pdenapoI would apreciate if you could bring this issue in the ubuntu-devel list03:17
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pdenapoI think that it is important for a distribution which goal is to be user-friendly03:18
Hobbseei think it's been shown that it's inappropriate for the ubuntu-devel list, maybe?03:18
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Hobbseepdenapo: i'd probably wait till european day, then ask in #ubuntu-devel03:19
Hobbseeif you dont want to send it to a ML.03:19
pdenapoeuropean day?03:19
pdenapowhat's that?03:19
Hobbseedevel-discuss sometimes takes a while for the moderation queue to clear, too03:19
ajmitchbusiness hours in europe03:19
Hobbsee...the day in europe.03:19
pdenapoah.. ok03:19
Hobbsee@now germany03:19
Hobbsee@now berlin03:19
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Berlin: June 20 2007, 03:19:49 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 18 hours 40 minutes03:19
pdenapothank you all for your help03:20
pdenapoI think that the development list should?'t be so closed...03:21
pdenapothis doesn't happend with other projects03:21
Hobbseeit happened because people abused it.03:22
Hobbseeand that's why -devel-discuss exists03:22
pdenapoit somewhat frustrating that just making a comment that could be useful for the improvement of Ubuntu is so hard03:23
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ubotuNew bug: #121272 in xen-tools (universe) "xentools in feisty creates broken debootstrap'ed images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127205:50
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ubotuNew bug: #121273 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel panic with dm-crypt/luks + lvm + xfs + ubuntu kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127306:30
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ubotuNew bug: #121274 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1 (restricted) "Gutsy fails to start X with fglrx / ATI Express 200M" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127406:40
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Hobbseehaha06:41
RAOF:)06:41
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ubotuNew bug: #121275 in Ubuntu "Opening PCMan File Manager 0.3.2.2 Causes My Desktop to Alter and Lockup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127506:50
ubotuNew bug: #121276 in Ubuntu "Quando se inicia o aMule as vezes ele no fica no systemtray, mas sim na rea de trabalho." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127606:50
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ubotuNew bug: #121277 in firefox (main) "gusty firefox memory corruption warning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127707:06
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ubotuNew bug: #121278 in ghostscript (main) "When navigating to folder with .eps a process "gs" will launch and consume apprx. 85% of physical memory and slow computer to crawling. (dup-of: 108159)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127807:15
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ubotuNew bug: #121279 in totem (main) "Totem playback choppy with H264" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127907:25
ubotuNew bug: #121280 in update-manager (main) "Could not calculate the upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128007:35
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ubotuNew bug: #121281 in firefox (main) "Strange behavour after trying of picture viewing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128107:55
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ubotuNew bug: #121282 in gnome-panel (main) "Beryl doesnt start " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128208:00
=== RAOF wonders how that can be a bug in gnome-panel
Hobbseeheh08:01
SEOmozme too08:01
SEOmozxD08:01
Hobbseegnome-panel probably has an icon to start beryl08:01
SEOmozill take a look08:02
crimsundude, Hobbsee boog!08:02
Hobbseecrimsun: hrm?08:02
crimsunI should name my package Hobbsee =] 08:02
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Hobbseecrimsun: that could be fun08:02
calcbbl, bedtime 1am :)08:05
Admiral_Chicagosince when is bedtime at 1am? it's that time here...08:08
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crimsun(things are a bit different for Canonical employees.)08:09
Hobbseeheh08:09
Admiral_Chicagoah i suppose so.08:09
Admiral_Chicago(things are a bit different for unemployed students.)08:10
crimsunI definitely will miss this lifestyle08:10
Admiral_Chicagoi heard you were going to be on the road or something like that.08:11
thekorngood morning08:11
crimsunyes08:11
Admiral_Chicagohey there thekorn08:11
Admiral_Chicagowould bughelper need updating since launchpad will be using new bug states?08:12
crimsunalmost certainly08:12
thekornyes08:12
crimsunthis throws a wrench into my bughelper hook plans, too.08:13
Admiral_Chicagoi may pull the latest code and make a patch for when launchpad goes down08:13
Admiral_Chicagomay being the key word.08:13
Admiral_Chicagoah I have the code right in front of me, this *should* be easy08:16
thekornspeaking about new bug states: ehich are the new states and when will they be introduced?08:19
Admiral_Chicagothekorn: pulling the info now08:20
Admiral_Chicagoinfo == the email08:20
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Admiral_Chicagothekorn: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2007-June/000559.html08:24
Admiral_Chicagoi'm assuming 12 UTC08:24
Hobbseethekorn: not quite yet - and that's not accurate08:25
thekornAdmiral_Chicago: thanks will have a look08:26
Admiral_Chicagohmm, looking at bughelper. we have 'Triaged' for example, that works08:27
micahcowanDo standby-node bugs go to linux-source?08:27
micahcowan*mode08:27
Admiral_Chicago'Won'tFix' doesn't quite work because of the extra apostrophe, is there a way to do this in Python?08:28
crimsunmicahcowan: the appropriate linux-source-2.6.foo, yes08:28
Admiral_Chicagolike '"Don'tFix"'08:28
micahcowancrimsun, thanks. There's one filed against a BASIC IDE (gambas) for some reason :)08:29
micahcowanHave we decided yet what the deal is with the new states, and has the wiki been updated appropriately?08:29
ubotuNew bug: #121285 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Soft lockup when starting iwlwifi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128508:31
Admiral_Chicagothey have not been implemented yet afaik08:31
crimsunthere is ongoing fervent discussion.08:31
Admiral_Chicagoi think the new states are very good08:31
micahcowancrimsun, yeah, that much I saw :)08:31
micahcowanI think Won't Fix and whatever the other one are good; Triaged I'm unsure of.08:32
micahcowan*other one was08:32
Admiral_ChicagoHere is a case: The mozilla team has various crashes. Some reproduceable, some not. we set all bugs with crash reports and good retraces as confirmed08:33
Admiral_Chicagosome are one time crashes due to extensions, other reproduceable crashes08:33
thekornAdmiral_Chicago: you can escape chars like 'Won\'tFix'08:33
Admiral_Chicagowe can use Triaged for bugs that have all the confirmed information but nothing to reproduce it. whereas reproduceable bugs are sent upsteam08:34
Admiral_Chicagothanks thekorn, doing that now08:34
Admiral_Chicagoreproduce bugs would be marked confirmed08:35
Admiral_Chicagopatch sent08:39
ubotuNew bug: #121286 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Suspend resume with libata IDE disks disables DMA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128608:40
micahcowanto what do I assign bugs related specifically to the Live CD (such as boot failure?)08:42
Hobbseelinux-source-2.6.22, i guess08:42
Hobbseemaybe add another task for casper?08:42
Hobbseenot sure08:42
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dholbachgood morning09:15
thekornhello dholbach09:16
dholbachhey thekorn09:16
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thekorndholbach: I'm just working on the py-lp-bugs changes wiki-page09:17
dholbachNICE09:18
dholbachhey Admiral_Chicago09:18
dholbachAdmiral_Chicago: have the new states in LP have not landed yet, so we're not going to apply the patch just now09:18
Admiral_Chicagosounds good, just wanted to get that in before thekorn beat me to it09:19
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dholbachright :)09:20
thekornhaha09:20
Admiral_Chicagodholbach: but the patch itself is valid?09:21
dholbachis it really "Won'tFix"?09:22
dholbachand don't we have other places where we check bug states too?09:22
Admiral_Chicagono i searched everything, nothing coded in like in bughelper09:24
Admiral_Chicagothe file, not the package09:24
Admiral_Chicagoit's "Won't Fix" according to the email09:25
Admiral_Chicagowhich I found odd.09:25
dholbachyou write   "Won\'tFix"09:26
ubotuNew bug: #121289 in update-manager (main) "OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12128909:26
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Admiral_Chicagoah. my python skills are non-existant which is why I made that error.09:26
dholbachdo we need changes in py-lp-bugs too?09:26
thekornyes09:26
Admiral_Chicagohmm, let me check09:26
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Admiral_Chicagoyep. i'll make a patch for that too...09:28
dholbachAdmiral_Chicago: good09:28
Admiral_Chicagowait a sec, I wrote. 'Won\'tFix in the patch to bughelper.09:30
Admiral_Chicagoeither way, i'll do the smae for py-lp-bugs09:30
Admiral_Chicagodone.09:35
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ubotuNew bug: #121290 in firefox (main) "Firefow Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129009:45
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ubotuNew bug: #121292 in ksudoku (universe) "test bug" [Low,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129210:06
ubotuNew bug: #121294 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org fails to render OpenType fonts at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129410:06
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thekorndholbach: I added some lines to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/API_changes10:08
dholbachnice10:08
dholbachi'll check it out in a bit10:08
thekornwill add some more later today,10:08
thekornbut have to leave now10:09
dholbachok... see you10:13
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ubotuNew bug: #121295 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy]  vmware player kernel modules are missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129510:20
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ubotuNew bug: #121296 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  kink 0.2.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129610:36
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ubotuNew bug: #121297 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_transform()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129710:51
ubotuNew bug: #121298 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_transform()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129810:55
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pochuGood morning folks!10:58
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coNPhey pochu11:04
Hobbseehiya pochu, coNP, cjwatson11:05
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coNPhey Hobbsee11:05
=== Hobbsee wonders whether it's wise to get rid of gutsy just yet
coNPdo you want to s/gibbon/fawn/?11:06
Hobbseenah11:07
Hobbseejust run gutsy full time11:07
HobbseecoNP: i say that...and then i try to hiberante a VM, and kdm appears to break.  tasty.11:10
coNPthere is a support channel available for gutsy with nice people wanting to help :)11:10
Hobbseehrm.  i wonder why.11:11
HobbseeX breaks on the system i *dont* want it to break on.11:11
coNPfile a bug against libx-brain-control11:11
Hobbseehaha11:12
HobbseecoNP: then again, my feisty is so borkened anyway that i am running gutsy full time.11:13
Hobbseealthough, if i fixed grub for feisty, it would probably boot11:13
Hobbseehmmm11:13
coNPoh you run feisty on the host machine and gutsy in the VM?11:13
HobbseeSysinfo for 'LongPointyStick': Linux 2.6.22-6-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2250  @ 1.73GHz at 800 MHz (3457 bogomips), HD: 34/71GB, RAM: 1052/1510MB, 130 proc's, 8.45h up11:13
Hobbseethis machine tripple boots, and there's a broken-x-enated gutsy in a VM11:14
=== Hobbsee really shouldnt have tried hibernating it.
Hobbseeso ther'es XP, gutsy, and feisty on here, + gutsy-vm11:14
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coNPwow11:14
HobbseecoNP: it's kinda crazy.  i moved to gutsy pretty early, because i just wasnt fixing the bugs if i couldnt see them staring me in the face.11:14
=== Hobbsee used to run a tripple boot on a 40gb harddrive too.
=== coNP loves dancing on the bleeding edge. No supported versions, no execuses :)
coNPwe should update the whole triaging process in the wiki11:16
coNPbecause of the new bug states11:16
Hobbseehehe11:16
Hobbseethis is true11:16
Hobbseebut i'd prefer to see what they turn out to be, first.11:16
HobbseecoNP: it's more "no excuses.  you can upload to the entire archive"11:16
coNPsure11:17
coNPwhat do you mean by upload?11:17
Hobbseeupload packages11:17
Hobbsee(to ubuntu)11:17
coNPoh, only if you have to appropriate group membership11:19
coNPs/to/the/11:20
HobbseecoNP: true.  i'm a core dev11:20
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coNPHobbsee: not a long time ago, I guess, I remember the mail welcoming you aboard11:20
Hobbsee:)11:20
gnomefreakmvo: if your around did you find out adept FTB from what i saw its looking for a .la file that is no longer in gutsy (or ubuntu) not sure when it was pulled?11:21
gnomefreakmvo: debtags fail as well with an apt error or 211:21
gnomefreaks/out adept/out why adept11:22
HobbseecoNP: um...cds are usually 700mb right?11:25
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Hobbsee270156d5778097d3ffceecc58b94629e11:26
Hobbsee270156d5778097d3ffceecc58b94629e11:26
Hobbseehrm.  seems the same11:26
Hobbseebigpond server must be on crack11:26
coNP:)11:27
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coNPis it some kind of ubuntu?11:27
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coNPwas it an usb longpointystick?11:28
HobbseecoNP: yeah, tribe 1 ubuntu11:29
coNPpbuilder is slow11:30
RAOFcoNP: Yup.  It had an extendable pointing bit :)11:31
crimsunyay, alsa-driver triaged.  Time to write a cluefile, then off to the airport.11:32
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gnomefreakway too early for airport :(11:33
Hobbseegrrr.11:35
Hobbseeplease prozilla, dont kill my connection11:35
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ubotuNew bug: #121299 in tilda (universe) "tilda does not show up with latest libvte" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12129911:40
gnomefreakHobbsee: is there a way to see what command kmenu uses to launch an app?11:43
ubotuNew bug: #121300 in python-mysqldb (main) "KeyError exception while trying to execute sql query" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130011:45
Hobbseegnomefreak: from kmenueditor?11:45
gnomefreakok ill have him check it ty11:46
crimsunmm, bughelper is fun11:47
crimsunwell, bughelper-data11:47
crimsunok, committed.  Airport time.11:48
mvognomefreak: thanks for looking into this, I'm currently working on some compiz issues, then I will check it out again11:49
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pochuwow! rock on :) http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/11:49
gnomefreakmvo: ty i have both ready to build :)11:49
rbs-titoHi guys, if a bug ( bug 120837) is related to the proprietary ATI drivers there is nothing we can do about it right?11:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120837 in xorg "When I log out from Ubuntu Feisty I get black screeen" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12083711:49
pochuSo for next HugDay -> less than 30k bugs :)11:49
rbs-titoCool11:50
mvognomefreak: cool! both are fixed? great! please upload the debdiff to some place then :)11:50
gnomefreakmvo: neither are11:51
gnomefreakmvo: both fail badly11:51
pochurbs-tito: move it to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.x. I'm not sure whether we can do something, probably ask in #ubuntu-kernel11:51
mvognomefreak: oh, ok :/11:51
pochurbs-tito: 2.6.20 is it's with Feisty11:51
gnomefreakdebtags is failing with apt error11:51
pochus/is/if/11:51
rbs-titoYeah, 2.6.2011:53
Hobbseepochu: oh nice!11:53
pochu:)11:53
pochuHobbsee: can you close 100 kde bugs with 'WontFix' ;)11:54
Hobbseepochu: quite likely.11:55
pochuWell, if you want to close more, I won't complain :)11:55
Hobbseepochu: i wonder...can you close every bug in a source package, without listing all the numbers?11:55
Hobbseeany kde3 bug we can close with that, when kde4 comes out, i beleive11:55
Hobbseeor a lot of11:55
pochuI don't think so...11:55
pochuHobbsee: though you can file a request in answers.launchpad.net/malone, I think.11:55
Hobbseewell.  the code will have changed a lot, so...11:56
pochuMaybe stub or someboy can do that directly in the DB11:56
pochus/someboy/somebody/11:56
pochuMy typing is weird today :/11:56
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pochuHehe, there are 794 bugs in the Edgy kernel, and I don't think we're going to fix much of them...11:59
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coNPlol12:00
ubotuNew bug: #121301 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gnome-mplayer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130112:00
ubotuNew bug: #121302 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gecko-media-player" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130212:00
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=== pochu wonders whether it's a good idea to fix needs-packaging bugs... since that would mean to have more packages, and therefore, more bugs
Hobbseepochu: not really12:01
Hobbseeunless you're throwing them into debian12:02
pochuHehe, right :)12:02
pochuThat's what I do.12:02
pochuThough the NEW queue is slow... ;)12:02
coNPpochu: are you now merging bugs to debian?12:03
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rbs-titoIs there a command to search files recursively for a string?12:06
coNPgrep -r12:07
rbs-titoif I wanted to search all files in the current directory and subdirectories for a string what would I run?12:09
pochucoNP: I've uploaded a couple of new packages12:10
coNPpochu: to debian?12:11
ubotuNew bug: #121303 in tracker (universe) "libdeskbar-tracker has bad grammar in deskbar: "Listen music <file>"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130312:11
pochucoNP: yep (and therefore to Ubuntu too)12:11
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coNPpochu: wow I did not know you become a DD (or is it just work-in-progress?12:11
pochucoNP: I'm not a DD, but I have an sponsor :)12:12
coNPI see12:12
pochuYou can maintain packages without being DD... In fact, that's the way to become a DD ;)12:12
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rbs-titobug 121303 patched for Feisty :D12:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121303 in tracker "libdeskbar-tracker has bad grammar in deskbar: "Listen music <file>"" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130312:22
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Kmosrbs-tito: i added patch tag to it12:23
rbs-titoKmos: To the attachment?12:24
rbs-titoI thought I'd done it -shrug-12:24
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Hobbseeis it a full debdiff?12:25
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rbs-titohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/8142348/tracker.patch12:25
KmosHobbsee: nop12:26
Kmosrbs-tito: no.. just the tag12:26
ubotuNew bug: #93012 in restricted-manager "edits xorg.conf on unsuccessful package installation (dup-of: 108119)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9301212:26
rbs-titoShould I upload another patch for the Gutsy version?12:27
Hobbseerbs-tito: send that to debian12:28
rbs-titoHobbsee: Can I do that through launchpad? Or do I file a new bug report there?12:28
Hobbseerbs-tito: seeing as we dont modify tha tpackage ourself12:28
Hobbseeno, file  anew bug report12:28
Hobbseeyou can give the bug report of ours, though12:28
rbs-titoAd debian/bugzilla?12:28
Hobbseesorry?12:28
rbs-tito*At debians bugzilla ?12:28
Hobbseeat the debian bugtracker, yse.  last i knew they dont run bugzilla12:30
Kmosrbs-tito: use e-mail tracker@packages.debian.org to contact maintainer of the package12:30
ubotuNew bug: #121305 in coreutils (main) "id crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130512:30
rbs-titoKmos: So just email that? Or do  add it to debian bugs?12:30
Kmosrbs-tito: try to e-mail.12:30
Kmoswith the patch attached12:31
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rbs-titoSent12:33
ubotuNew bug: #107705 in restricted-manager "Requests restricted-modules package" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10770512:35
ubotuNew bug: #121307 in conquest (universe) "Merge conquest (8.2b-1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130712:35
rbs-titoI set that as unnasigned now right?12:36
Kmosrbs-tito: yes12:36
Kmosrbs-tito: after you finish your work, set it to unassigned12:36
Kmosand status to confirmed12:37
rbs-titoOK, but nothing will get done until Debian integrate it?12:37
rbs-titoHmm, this patching malarky is good fun!12:39
Kmosrbs-tito: yes, if they don't took too long12:39
ubotuNew bug: #121308 in linkchecker (universe) "Merge linkchecker (4.7-2) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130812:40
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rbs-titobug 121310 is interesting12:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121310 in Ubuntu "capture checkbutton stuck" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12131012:41
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ubotuNew bug: #121309 in Ubuntu "TCP hangs for most sites" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12130912:45
ubotuNew bug: #121310 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "capture checkbutton stuck" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12131012:45
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ubotuNew bug: #121311 in openoffice.org (main) "oo impress: hyperlinks no shortcut for editing hyperlinks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12131101:02
ubotuNew bug: #121314 in php4 (universe) "Please sync php4 (6:4.4.6-2) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12131401:06
ubotuNew bug: #121315 in qtstalker (universe) "qtstalker version bump needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12131501:06
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ubotuNew bug: #121320 in libmtp (main) "Update needed for package libmtp5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132001:30
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ubotuNew bug: #121324 in firefox (main) "Image properties shows displayed width and height, not image's actual properties" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132401:50
ubotuNew bug: #121323 in ubiquity (main) "we don't get persian tranlation install time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132301:51
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ubotuNew bug: #121326 in vips7.10 (universe) "lack of sound, can't install driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132602:00
ubotuNew bug: #121327 in poppler (main) "pdflatex produces a symbol lookup failure since recent libpoppler upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132702:00
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ubotuNew bug: #121329 in Ubuntu "screen resolution problem after nvidia driver update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132902:15
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ubotuNew bug: #121333 in file-roller (main) "archive manager can not open any .tar or .rpm file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12133302:35
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Kmosif a bug is in dapper, but it's fixed on feisty.. we should mark it as fix released, right ?02:41
HobbseeKmos: yes02:42
KmosHobbsee: but there is something the bug reporter can do02:43
Kmos?02:43
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Kmosif he wants it fixed on dapper02:43
Hobbsee!responses | Kmos02:43
ubotuKmos: response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses02:43
HobbseeKmos: see ^02:43
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Kmosthanks02:44
ubotuNew bug: #121335 in Ubuntu "printer setup not complete, lpd does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12133502:45
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ubotuNew bug: #121337 in openldap2.3 (main) "openldap should enforce ubuntu's default password policy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12133703:01
ubotuNew bug: #121338 in Ubuntu "Sony DVD RW DRU-820A -- I/O errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12133803:11
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ubotuNew bug: #120826 in Ubuntu "totem crashs at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12082603:20
ubotuNew bug: #121339 in Ubuntu "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: vlc-nox when I try to install vlc in Feisty Fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12133903:20
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asimonOops, stupidly I linked a debian bug to the wrong launchpad bug (got the wrong browser tab). Is there a way to remove a 'also affects' entry? Or what should I do? Thanks. (bug #121324)03:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121324 in firefox "Image properties shows displayed width and height, not image's actual properties" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12132403:27
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Hobbseeasimon: reject the task, if you can03:30
Hobbseeasimon: oh wait.  you can just go in and take out the debian url, then reject the task03:30
asimonHobbsee: If I try to remove the debian url and save the changes I get a "There is a problem with the information you entered. Please fix it and try again.".03:31
asimonHobbsee: Ah, I got it, thank you.03:32
Hobbsee:)03:32
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ubotuNew bug: #121342 in qt-x11-free (main) "kdesktop doesn't resize after rotation with xrandr" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12134203:36
ubotuNew bug: #121343 in libjsw (universe) "Joystick Saitec ST30 detected as Wasp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12134303:46
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ubotuNew bug: #121346 in Ubuntu "passwd username: UNIX pass in the recovery mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12134603:51
ubotuNew bug: #121347 in kdenetwork (main) "Kopete crashes consistently on exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12134703:51
gnomefreakmvo: did you pick apart adept? its looking for a file that is no longer used in gutsy03:57
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ubotuNew bug: #121350 in Ubuntu "will not detect my cd-rw/dvd drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12135004:15
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exobuzzmaybe someone can set the importance of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/73788 - it's undecided, but i can tell you, i think having completely broken network profiles is actually rather important04:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 73788 in kdeadmin "Network profiles completely broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] 04:26
Hobbseeexobuzz: gutsy too?04:27
Hobbseeexobuzz: and have you reported it upstream, and linked it to that bug report?04:28
exobuzzHobbsee: gutsy and breezy.. is it up to the users to report it at every point ? surely you cant expect them to do everything ?04:29
exobuzzalso, how do you know its not a ubuntu specific bug. ubuntu has changes against the network profiles perl stuff04:29
Hobbseeexobuzz: then check for it.  you can be a triager too.04:30
exobuzzit would cause some anger to report upstream a bug which is only on kubuntu04:30
Hobbseethen they send it back to us04:30
Hobbseelast i checked, we dont do anything specific to kdeadmin?04:30
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Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~/devel/kde3.5.7/kdeadmin/kdeadmin-3.5.7/debian/patches$ ls04:30
Hobbsee01_really_recognize_etch.diff04:30
Hobbsee02_knetworkconf_recognize_allow-stanzas.diff04:31
Hobbsee03_kcron_no_silent.diff04:31
Hobbseecommon04:31
Hobbseekubuntu_08_kpackage_sudo.diff04:31
Hobbseekubuntu_10_knetworkconf_localhost.diff04:31
Hobbseeoh there's a little bit.  so could be kubuntu specific04:31
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Hobbseeexobuzz: i think you missed the part about the developers, for the most part, not being paid - and so, with respect to time contraints, in the same boat as you are04:31
exobuzzi get the feeling with ubuntu/kubuntu new features and more important than bugs04:32
Hobbseeexobuzz: so no, i dont expect them to do everything - just enough to get the bug looked at by the right people.04:32
exobuzzi realise that,04:32
Hobbseeand if not, and no one else picks it up, then it sits there.04:32
allansvI think i've a bug on ubuntu,04:32
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exobuzzHobbsee: i have posted bugs WITH patches however, and NOTHING has happened. what more can i do! :/04:32
exobuzzmore than 1 years ago04:33
allansvmine data and audio cd/dvds are mounted as blank cds04:33
ScottKexobuzz: Have you posted a complete debdiff or just individual patches?04:33
exobuzzScottK: patches against the individual files..04:33
Hobbseeexobuzz: did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue ?04:33
allansvbut system says that mine pc evend does not have a cd-drive04:33
Hobbsee(and did you tag them as patch?)04:33
Hobbseewith 30K of bugs, it's slightly hard to find things if people havent followed processes04:33
ScottKexobuzz: The answer to "what more can you do" is make a debdiff.  It reduces the amount of work someone who would have to upload has to do and so increases your odds.04:34
exobuzzthats because too much emphasis is put on new feature in ubuntu and not bugfixes04:34
exobuzzimho04:34
calcyea wrt upstream bugs don't report OOo bugs upstream unless you test with their version first... apparently they get annoyed at Ubuntu/Debian bugs04:34
calc;)04:34
ScottKexobuzz: Remember that most developers (including Hobbsee and myself) are volunteers.  You can't force volunteers to work on anything.04:34
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exobuzzScottK: im not forcing. im making suggestions04:35
Hobbseebut for kde...it's different.  we dont modify much of kdeadmin04:35
exobuzzbut.. there are SOME paid developers right ?04:35
calcand the paid developers tend to be stretched pretty thin04:35
ScottKexobuzz: For Main yes, for Universe, no.04:35
exobuzzthey should do a 6 month "bug hunt/fix". instead of adding "mobile support" and other  badly thought out ideas04:35
exobuzz:/04:35
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Hobbseeexobuzz: suggestions are better used in actually getting more people involved, or actually doing some work, rather than wand waving.04:35
calcexobuzz: if ubuntu wasn't kept up to date what keeps people using it over say OpenSUSE or Fedora, etc04:35
ScottKexobuzz: When you say "They should ..." I wonder how you expect that to work with volunteers...04:36
exobuzzdebian is always out of date. and people use it :)04:36
calcexobuzz: a increasingly small number04:36
exobuzzScottK: im referring to the few paid developers. there are some right ? :)04:36
Hobbseeexobuzz: sure.  there's 1 talking to you04:36
ScottKYes there are.04:36
Hobbseeexobuzz: there are 24 in the distro team, at last count.  remind me how many source packages there ar ein ubuntu?04:37
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zulHobbsee: more than one04:37
Hobbseezul: talking to exobuzz now?04:37
calcheh there are 500+ bugs just on the package i maintain04:37
coNPHobbsee: you mean, you are a volunteer?04:37
HobbseecoNP: yes...04:37
exobuzzHobbsee: are you capable of a conversation without being facetious and sarcastic ? :)04:37
ScottKexobuzz: Simmer down.  She's stating facts.04:38
exobuzz"remind me how many source packages there ar ein ubuntu?" serves no useful purpose.. i didnt say its a small project04:38
Hobbseeexobuzz: sarcastic?  i thought i was being quite honest, actually.04:38
Hobbseeno - but the ratio of packages to paid developers should make you think a little04:38
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Hobbseegood luck, calc04:39
exobuzzwhy is it not ok to make a point like "i think emphasis should be on bug fixes". its just an idea.  just because its a project developed by volunteers, why can you not making suggestions/ideas without getting "stomped" on on irc04:39
Hobbseeexobuzz: you're not being stomped on.  you're just being told why it's very unlikely.04:39
Hobbseei mean, if you want to shoot ideas out, you're welcome - thjere's a gutsy forum which no one takes terribly seriously, due to that04:40
zulexobuzz: because nothing would get done and then you would be complaining about everything is too old in ubuntu04:40
Hobbseebut this channel is for actually getting work done, rather than wand waving04:40
ubotuNew bug: #121351 in gst-fluendo-mpegdemux (universe) "some mpeg-ts files don't play (freeze on prerolling fase)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12135104:40
persiaexobuzz: Apologies for the lost patches: the procedures have recently changed to try to reduce the time between patch submission and comment or review.  Testing with current releases or generating debdiffs can further reduce this time.  Arguing with developers about procedures is not likely to generate interest in solving specific reported issues.04:40
exobuzzzul: well.. perhaps a better balance is needed ?04:40
HobbseeScottK: about the masses of kde bugs in launchpad - with the wontfix - can we get everything applicable filed upstream, and mark the launchpad lot as wont fix - pre KDE4?04:40
Hobbseeexobuzz: what right do you, or i, or anyone here, have to demand to create such a balance?04:41
exobuzzpersia: no apology needed. ill read how to make a debdiff for next time.04:41
exobuzzsee. im not demanding..04:41
Hobbseeit's open source - this is one of the quirks.04:41
ScottKHobbsee: Makes sense.04:41
exobuzzits a suggestion/discussion04:41
calcthere are on the order of 20-30K bugs reported per release04:41
Hobbseeexobuzz: conceded, but even still04:41
ScottKexobuzz: (violating my own rule here) it sounds like you are demanding.04:41
calcthats a lot of bugs to resolve in a ~ 6mo period04:42
exobuzz"how about". is a demand ?04:42
exobuzzcomon..04:42
Hobbseeexobuzz: you can suggest - but only that - you cant actually say "you should do this" or "you must do this" - because none of us have to do what you say.04:42
exobuzzi didnt! :)04:42
Hobbseeso you've suggested.  and you havent found much interest.04:42
Hobbseebut you've been told stuff that might be more useful04:42
calcabout one bug every 15m04:42
HobbseeScottK: cool.  will post to the ML and such requesting it, soon.04:42
ScottKexobuzz: Point me at one of your patches for a Universe package and I'll have a look.04:43
HobbseeScottK: like, after we get the fix in.  of course, the permissions wont affect kubuntu stuff04:43
exobuzzthis is the point. i feel that anything i say you are "getting your back up" because a) you dont like the idea b) you don't like users sugesting how you should go.. but surely there is no need to be so confrontational.. i am ONLY making a few suggestions based on my own user experience04:43
HobbseeScottK: seeing as kubuntu-members is a bug contact for all kubuntu packages that we know about - and those that arent are easily added.04:43
Hobbseeexobuzz: not really.  what i have a problem with is the people who come in and demand that "it should be done differently"04:44
Hobbseewhich is effectively what youv'e tried to come here to do.04:44
ScottKHobbsee: Yes, but you have people like me who aren't in kubuntu-members...04:44
exobuzzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/+bug/5784904:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 57849 in hotkey-setup "Add keycodes for wireless button on Acer Travelmate 8100" [Low,Confirmed] 04:44
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HobbseeScottK: you *arent*?04:44
ScottKHobbsee: No.  Ubuntu members and MOTU.04:44
HobbseeScottK: you're a part of k-m by association.04:44
Hobbseelast i checked04:45
ScottKOK.04:45
HobbseeScottK: either way, being in ~ubuntu-dev also gives you powers, as it counts you as a "dev" in LP's eyes.04:45
Hobbseeif not, then i should fix that04:45
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exobuzzHobbsee: plesae note that in everything i have said. not once was i making a demand. i dont know why you got that idea..04:46
exobuzzi was only giving you my opinion.04:46
calctrying to fix bugs is already a priority04:46
ScottKexobuzz: hotkey-setup was in Main, so I can't upload it (that's why I said a universe package) and it's been removed in any case, so it's OBE.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/04:46
HobbseeScottK: OBE?04:46
exobuzzcalc: that's excellent then ;-)04:46
ScottKexobuzz: How about another?04:46
ScottKOBE = Overtaken By Events.04:47
Hobbseeahh04:47
calcits just that there are so many packages and bugs that they can't all get dealt with on a timely basis04:47
exobuzzScottK: how are keys handled. actually the patch is less useful to me now i have network-manager anyway04:47
ScottKexobuzz: Dunno.  Just looked and saw that the package had been removed.04:47
calcwhich is part of the reason Hug Days exist to try to get rid of the backlog :)04:48
ScottKexobuzz: Nevermind.  I was looking at it wrong...04:48
calcScottK: still in main though so takes a core dev to fix it04:49
ScottKexobuzz: The package is still there, but it's still in Main, so I can't help you.  Got one for a universe package.04:49
calcexobuzz: you might want to send that patch to the debian bts as well, perhaps debian would apply the patch faster than ubuntu core dev04:50
exobuzzScottK: sorry. none with a patch :)04:50
ScottKOK.  I'd suggest you do one of two things on that one:04:50
ScottK1.  File a bug with Debian since Ubuntu uses their package unmodified and attach your patch.  You've possibly got a better shot there.04:51
exobuzzyeh i didnt realise that. will do. thanks04:51
ScottK2.  Turn your patch into a proper debdiff and attach that.04:51
exobuzzwill learna nd do that :)04:52
ScottKexobuzz: If you file the bug in Debian, please link that bug report to the Ubuntu report in LP so the Ubuntu bug will be linked.04:52
exobuzzk04:52
exobuzzcan i just clarfy, i appreciate everyones work here. i really at no time was attempting to be "critical" of any of your work. Just wanted to share some of my views on it. I think its always good to hear the views of those who use your software.04:53
exobuzzwell. i know i listen to my users :)04:53
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Hobbseeit is, yes.04:54
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Hobbseepoor calc.04:55
exobuzzcalc: not enough days in the year :-)04:55
Hobbseecalc: kde's worse.04:55
persiaexobuzz: If you have trouble making a debdiff, you can also add the "patch" tag (if you have not already) to request someone else to make a debdiff, but as previously noted, there's no promise that anyone actually will.  Also, when sending a bug report to Debian, only include the patch: Debian doesn't prefer debdiffs.04:55
exobuzzpersia: im sure i can do it. i just need to read how ;-)04:55
exobuzzi will rtfm04:55
exobuzzthanks though04:56
calcHobbsee: oh i know... i was the debian kde maintainer for about 3-4 years ;)04:56
Hobbseeheh04:57
Hobbseepoint04:57
exobuzzcalc: i wouldnt want that job :)04:57
persiaexobuzz: The Preparing New Revisions section of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing has some instructions.  Best of luck.04:57
calc<- is a glutton for punishment ;)04:57
Hobbseecalc: so it seems :P04:57
Hobbseecalc: next it'll be X as well?04:57
calcexobuzz: heh, well it helps lots of people, and someone's got to do it04:57
exobuzzcalc: . mind you.. maintaining X i reckon is almost as bad :-)04:57
calcHobbsee: X will be a while i need to learn about video stuff04:57
zulcalc: could be worse04:57
calcHobbsee: daniels helped me on kde and then went on to X stuff04:57
Hobbseeahhh04:57
Hobbseecalc: ahh, i see.04:58
calcHobbsee: hear he is working for Nokia now on their handhelds04:58
Hobbseecalc: nwo that would be interesting....04:58
calcHobbsee: daniels worked for ubuntu/canonical for a while too04:58
Hobbseeyeah04:58
exobuzzdaniel stone ?04:58
calcexobuzz: yes04:58
Hobbseeyes04:58
exobuzzaah04:58
calci think i am going to make a OOo common bugs page or something like that04:59
calcsince so many bugs filed against it are dupes of long unfixed bugs04:59
calclike SMB/NFS locking issues, etc04:59
Hobbseeyoucould just fix them too.   *g*05:00
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bdmurraycalc: OOo common bugs would be great05:03
calcHobbsee: even upstream hasn't figured out how to do that after 2 years05:03
calcHobbsee: i doubt i could figure it out heh ;)05:03
calcits a well known and well duplicated bug upstream, heh05:04
calcits set as target for OOo 2.3, don't know if that really means anything though05:04
Hobbseeheh, right05:07
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ubotuNew bug: #121358 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12135805:21
ubotuNew bug: #121359 in Ubuntu "firefox/flash + amarok: no sound in flash video, then ff crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12135905:21
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ubotuNew bug: #121365 in libcompizconfig (universe) "active plugin list not read from the backend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12136506:06
calcany kubuntu people here?06:09
calci'm throwing a bug that way06:10
ubotuNew bug: #121367 in exaile (universe) "exaile crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12136706:10
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calcgar!06:12
calcintegrity error in launchpad06:12
ubotuNew bug: #121368 in Ubuntu "Can't execute a .bin file in kubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12136806:15
calcanyone else messing with bugs? if so are you getting integrity errors as well?06:20
ubotuNew bug: #121371 in irda-utils (main) "irda-utils error when starting the initscript" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12137106:20
ubotuNew bug: #121372 in compiz (main) "Bug migrating active plugins from gconf to ccp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12137206:25
ubotuNew bug: #121373 in openoffice.org (main) "files from ms-word XP does not open on Openoffice 2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12137306:30
ScottKcalc: No errors here.06:33
calcScottK: ok, must be this bug doesn't like me06:34
ubotuNew bug: #121377 in network-manager-applet (main) "[gutsy]  network-manager-gnome should depend on network-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12137706:55
ubotuNew bug: #121381 in ldap-account-manager (universe) "php5-mcrypt problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12138106:55
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asachmmm ... bug 94702 appears to have merged in duplicates that are no duplicates07:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 94702 in gnash "[apport]  gnash crashed with SIGSEGV in gnash::SWF::SWFHandlers::ActionCallMethod()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9470207:25
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ScottKasac: Then un-duplicate them.07:41
asacyeah07:42
asacalready done07:42
ScottKOK07:42
asaci just thought that auto-dupe detection did merge bad bugs ... but i found out that the bad one was merged by human ... so not a problem07:43
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pochubluekuja: the patch you added to tracker is wrong.10:07
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ubotuNew bug: #121418 in Ubuntu "Delete account" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12141810:36
ubotuNew bug: #121433 in Ubuntu "drum sound at start up only sometimes works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12143310:36
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calcwhat should be done about auto-imported debian bugs?10:52
calchmm this particular bug is a non-bug anyway so i can reject it10:53
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