[01:31] <mneptok> omg. a Riva TNT.
[01:32] <pochu> a Riva TNT2 64 :/
[01:33] <mneptok> the Diamond Viper V550 was a TNT card. not even TNT2.
[01:46] <rbs-tito> http://www.pastebin.ca/577585 Could someone take a look at this? The objective is to add a trailing slash to Firefox bookmarks if there isn't one already, the code starting from line 2 is mine. 
[01:47] <rbs-tito> For bug 120720
[01:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120720 in firefox "Bookmark image icons" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120720
[01:58] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: congratulations!
[02:15] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: indeed, congrats
[02:15] <Burgundavia> hey jsgotangco
[02:15] <jsgotangco> hi
[02:15] <bhale> hi LaserJock, jsgotangco Burgundavia 
[02:16] <bhale> duderinos!
[02:16] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:18] <Burgundavia> hey bhale
[03:10] <LaserJock> thank jsgotangco and Burgundavia 
[03:20] <bryce> welcome aboard LaserJock :-)
[03:20] <Hobbsee> where's he boarding now?
[06:07] <manchicken> Any packagers in the house?
[06:07] <RAOF> Well, yes.
[06:07] <RAOF> Although that introduction suggests that #ubuntu-motu will be a more appropriate forum for whatever it is you actually want to ask :)
[06:08] <manchicken> Well, I'm a developer, and need I'm just needing someone to tell me where to put additional missing dependencies on packages?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> manchicken: what's up?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> RAOF: he writes adept and such
[06:08] <Hobbsee> or cowrites it
[06:09] <manchicken> Hobbsee: tagcoll isn't in the adept deps.  Trying to figure out how to save someone the trouble.
[06:09] <RAOF> Ah, that makes more sense.  Sorry manchicken :)
[06:09] <manchicken> RAOF: Not a problem at all :)
[06:09] <manchicken> RAOF: If I was trying to package--which I'm not :)--your answer would have been perfect :)
[06:09] <manchicken> And spot on.
[06:10] <Hobbsee> manchicken: as in, how to add the build dep?
[06:10] <manchicken> yup :)
[06:10] <Hobbsee> in debian/control
[06:10] <manchicken> And where's the package search engine thingy that Riddell always uses when I scream that I'm missing a lib and don't know what package it is in?
[06:10] <manchicken> I really should bookmark that.
[06:11] <Hobbsee> apt-cache search foo?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> packages.ubuntu.com ?
[06:11] <StevenK> apt-file search <file> ?
[06:12] <RAOF> ^^^ is right, as long as you've built the apt-file database.
[06:13] <manchicken> didn't know about apt-file
[06:13] <manchicken> That's a nice one to know.
[06:14] <RAOF> Yes.  It's like a supercharged "dpkg -S" :)
[06:14] <manchicken> Ah.h
[06:15] <RAOF> Which, if you're not familiar with it, will search your currently installed packages to see which packages own files you're interested in.
[06:24] <manchicken> Yeah, I know that one.
[06:24] <manchicken> It's the other way around I didn't know :)
[06:24] <RAOF> Yeah, apt-file is really useful :)
[06:24] <manchicken> I know the code, but still figuring out a lot of the packaging quirks.
[06:25] <manchicken> It's ironic that many of the packagers regard the hackers as cleverer, while many of the hackers regard the packagers in the same fashion.
[06:28] <fabbione> morning
[06:28] <Hobbsee> morning fabbione!
[06:31] <manchicken> Okay, so libtdb1 comes with a .so, but not the .la that libtool insists on making it use.  Is this a new thing that we're not putting .la's in packages anymore?
[06:31] <Fujitsu> libtdb-dev?
[06:32] <RAOF> I thought we *never* put .la's in packages?
[08:15] <pitti> Good morning
[08:15] <LaserJock> morning pitti 
[08:17] <Hobbsee> morning pitti!
[08:18] <StevenK> pitti: Morning! The libiw28 transition should be done now, too.
[08:22] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:23] <StevenK> Funnily enough, my nick hilight didn't pick that up.
[08:30] <pitti> StevenK: only libsnmp9 reverse dependency left is snmptrapfmt
[08:31] <pitti> StevenK: that's small enough now to kick it out of the archive
[08:31] <StevenK> Hum? I so uploaded that one.
[08:31] <StevenK> In fact, I remember doing it.
[08:31] <StevenK> pitti: Give me a few seconds, I'm just sponsoring nagios-plugins which spuriously Build-Depends on libsnmp-dev
[08:31] <pitti> snmptrapfmt | 1.11build1 | gutsy/universe | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc
[08:31] <pitti> and it built everywhere, too
[08:32] <pitti> Hobbsee: last libiw28 rev dep: xsupplicant
[08:33] <StevenK> pitti: xsupplicant is in Accepted
[08:33] <Hobbsee> ?
[08:33] <pitti> Depends: snmpd, libsnmp9
[08:33] <StevenK> Or should be
[08:33] <pitti> StevenK: that almost looks like a manually set dependency, not from dh_shlibdeps
[08:34] <StevenK> pitti: Is that snmptrapfmt?
[08:34] <pitti> StevenK: yes
[08:34] <crimsun> Depends: snmpd, libsnmp9
[08:34] <StevenK> pitti: Right. I shall prepare 1) a -1ubuntu1 upload, and 2) a sharp knife to stab the maintainer in the face with.
[08:35] <pitti> StevenK: for 2), a sharp patch and bug report might be more efficient :)
[08:35] <pitti> StevenK: xsupplicant> ah, indeed
[08:35] <Hobbsee> pitti: never underestimate the use of sharp knives
[08:36] <StevenK> Oh, my god!
[08:36] <StevenK> Conflicts: none
[08:36] <StevenK> Replaces: none
[08:36] <StevenK> EAT FLAMING DEATH, Jochen Friedrich!
[08:36] <pitti> lol
[08:37] <pitti> StevenK: well, just fix it and point him to the MoM output or so
[08:37] <pitti> too bad that sync-source doesn't work in the other direction :-P
[08:37] <StevenK> I shall do so.
[08:37] <StevenK> pitti: Heh, now that would be cool.
[08:45] <StevenK> Hrm. Now libsnmp-dev doesn't turn up in shlibs:Depends
[08:53] <pitti> StevenK: FYI, /cruft/ on people updated
[08:53] <pitti> StevenK: why should -dev turn up there?
[08:54] <pitti> LaserJock: congrats to your -core-dev badge!
[08:54] <StevenK> Er, sorry. libsnmp at all
[08:55] <StevenK> Just digging, it doesn't even link against libsnmp
[08:57] <StevenK> Because some bright spark commented out the LIBS directive in the upstream Makefile.
[08:57] <StevenK> If I find this guy ...
[09:01] <StevenK> Better.  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-5), libsnmp10 (>= 5.3.1), snmpd
[09:01] <pitti> yay
[09:03] <StevenK> pitti: Okay, snmptrapfmt uploaded.
[09:12] <hunger> Any progress on making apt and networkmanager installable again on gutsy?
[09:13] <pitti> hunger: n-m-applet still needs a fix before it can pass NEW
[09:13] <pitti> hunger: Tonio wanted to upload it today
[09:15] <dholbach> good morning
[09:20] <pitti> mjg59: does http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8036236/laptop-mode-tools_1.34-1ubuntu1.debdiff look sensible to you?
[09:30] <carlos> segfault: hi, around?
[09:35] <pitti> seb128: are you using keescook's greasemonkey script for stock bug replies? where can I find them?
[09:38] <seb128> pitti: no, I'm not, I've the basic version I'm using since the Oslo sprint
[09:38] <seb128> dunno where he has his scripts, that's something I've planned to ask as well ;)
[09:38] <pitti> seb128: ah, ok; I gave greasemonkey another try, and this time it actually works (not firefox-greasemonkey package, but getting it from upstream)
[09:38] <seb128> pitti: http://outflux.net/greasemonkey
[09:39] <pitti> ah, I looked on people
[09:41] <Hobbsee> pitti: seb128 a stupid question..but how does one actually use it?
[09:42] <pitti> Hobbsee: as I said, the package doesn't work; Extras -> Addons -> Download -> Greasemonkey -> restart ffox
[09:42] <dholbach> install greasemonkey extension for your browser, install the script, go :)
[09:42] <pitti> Hobbsee: I use right-click on a .user.js, 'view source', if I like it, click the install button
[09:42] <seb128> Hobbsee: in epiphany-browser right click on the .js and install
[09:42] <pitti> voila
[09:42] <seb128> dunno about firefox
[09:42] <Hobbsee> oh, forgot to restart the browser
[09:43] <pitti> wow, http://outflux.net/greasemonkey/lp_stockreplies.user.js kicks ass
[09:43] <pitti> keescook: ^ *hug*
[09:43] <Hobbsee> pitti: seb128 could figure out how to install it - just not use it. 
[09:43] <seb128> ;)
[09:44] <seb128> Hobbsee: open a launchpad bug page
[09:44] <pitti> seb128: before I used the hardcoded reply version, but this one is so great
[09:44] <seb128> it adds control you can use on the page
[09:44] <seb128> pitti: right
[09:44] <Hobbsee> seb128: wah.  why do i see no control?
[09:45] <Hobbsee> or am i looking for the wrong thing, or what?
[09:47] <seb128> Hobbsee: sec
[09:48] <Hobbsee> oh wait.  err, are the stock replies on the bug page already there?
[09:48] <seb128> no
[09:48] <Hobbsee> didnt think so
[09:49] <Hobbsee> didnt realise you couldn't just hit "add a comment"
[09:50] <dholbach> Hobbsee: did you try to change the state of the bug?
[09:50] <Hobbsee> dholbach: tryng now
[09:50] <seb128> the version from kees seems to do nothing
[09:52] <Hobbsee> that's...what i'm finding
[09:52] <Hobbsee> it'll add the comment, but wont change anything else
[09:52] <seb128> you should have entries and button to add actions
[09:52] <Hobbsee> found them.  added them.  still doesnt seem to do anything
[09:53] <Hobbsee> ahhh, now it seems to wokr
[09:56] <pitti> seb128: hmm, I cannot get keescook's script to set the bug status; does that work for you?
[09:56] <Hobbsee> pitti: it's case sensitive
[09:56] <pitti> I typed 'Fix Released', doesn't work
[09:56] <Hobbsee> dunno what "name" actually does, though
[09:56] <seb128> pitti: no, it doesn't work at all for me, doesn't display any widget
[09:57] <pitti> Hobbsee: it's the name of the reply, that will appear between the [] 
[09:57] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[09:57] <Hobbsee> ohhh, right.
[09:57] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:59] <Hobbsee> pitti: it's wokring fine here
[09:59] <pitti> Fix+Released and Fix%20Released don't work either
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !responses
[09:59] <ubotu> response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[09:59] <Hobbsee> it should just be Fix Released, no quotes or anything
[09:59] <pitti> Hobbsee: ah, I additionally gave it an assignee and priority, it works now
[10:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:04] <Hobbsee> okay, that's very cool
[10:04] <Hobbsee> thanks keescook :)
[10:05] <Hobbsee> hiya Tonio_ 
[10:06] <seb128> firefox is the suck
[10:06] <Tonio_> hey Hobbsee
[10:06] <seb128> could it make any harder to install greasmonkey? ;)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> seb128: you mean the ubuntu version of firefox sucks.
[10:07] <seb128> no, I mean the software sucks when you are used to something easy to use like epiphany
[10:07] <seb128> I'm trying to install greasmonkey for 5 min now
[10:07] <Hobbsee> seb128: it just works in vanilla firefox
[10:08] <seb128> "vanilla" like "non Ubuntu"?
[10:08] <carlos> seb128: isn't it in Ubuntu already?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> seb128: yes.
[10:08] <carlos> seb128: at least I show up in apt-cache search
[10:08] <carlos> s/I/It/
[10:09] <seb128> carlos: that version is outdated and buggy
[10:09] <carlos> seb128: maybe you should ask an Ubuntu developer to update it... they usually are in this channel
[10:10] <seb128> carlos: well, I don't really care about the package, I'm trying to use the software UI atm :p
[10:10] <seb128> I managed to install it
[10:10] <seb128> now I have an "install" button when opening the .js
[10:10] <seb128> clicking on it does nothing though
[10:10] <seb128> I'm wondering if it does install and gives no feedback
[10:10] <seb128> or doesn't install
[10:11] <Hobbsee> seb128: i believe that ubuntu has disabled the auto-updater, which buggers all this stuff up
[10:11] <pitti> hi Tonio_ 
[10:11] <Hobbsee> with the mozilla binaries, it all works perfectly.  *shrugs*
[10:12] <pitti> seb128: when I click on the install button, the yellow bar disappears and it's installed
[10:12] <seb128> pitti: k, so it's buggy here
[10:12] <pitti> and that's the standard ubuntu ffox
[10:12] <seb128> clicking on install doesn't make the bar disappears
[10:12] <seb128> ah, it worked after reloading the page
[10:13] <Tonio_> pitti: will upload np-applet with the licence in the tarball in a moment
[10:13] <Tonio_> pitti: finally, should be okay this time :)
[10:13] <pitti> Tonio_: yay
[11:30] <seb128> Tonio_: your debian/copyright is not really exact
[11:30] <seb128> src/wso-leap.c:
[11:30] <seb128>     (C) Copyright 2006 Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@gmail.com>
[11:30] <seb128> there is also "src/nm-gconf-wso-leap.c: * (C) Copyright 2006 Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@gmail.com>"
[11:31] <seb128> and the corresponding .h
[11:31] <seb128> same for src/nm-gconf-wso-wpa-eap.c which is under the Novell copyright
[11:31] <seb128> and the .h
[11:32] <seb128> Tonio_: src/applet.c has also "(C) Copyright 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation"
[11:33] <seb128> Tonio_: src/menu-items.c also "This also uses code from eel-vfs-extentions available under the LG"
[11:34] <seb128> Tonio_: src/menu-items.c also "This also uses code from eel-vfs-extentions available under the LGPL"
[11:44] <asac> pitti: seb128: anyone can help and NEW/review firefox-granparadiso ?
[11:45] <pitti> if me: on Friday
[11:45] <StevenK> Ohh, firefox 3
[11:45] <asac> yeah :)
[11:46] <StevenK> Does that have a hope in hell of getting backported to Feisty?
[11:46] <Kmos> asac: it will fix most of the LP bugs ?
[11:46] <asac> StevenK: we have -trunk builds in mozillateam preview archive
[11:46] <asac> !mozillatest
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <asac> hmm
[11:46] <asac> !moztest
[11:46] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[11:47] <asac> :)
[11:47] <Kmos> some friend mine is reporting this from gutsy
[11:47] <Kmos> emdebian-tools (0.2.0) ...
[11:47] <Kmos> Unable to determine apt-cache policy for Debian main! at /var/lib/dpkg/info/emdebian-tools.postinst line 132.
[11:47] <Kmos> trying to install it from upgrade
[11:48] <Kmos> status error: 255
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias> moztest
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias>moztest
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest is <alias>moztest
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: !moztest
[11:51] <gnomefreak> but i think i kept it in -mozillateam channel but that is changable
[11:51] <Chipzz> gnomefreak: I think she's trying to make an alias for it, not ask what it means ;)
[11:51] <asac> gnomefreak: mozdtest did work here (look a few lines above)
[11:51] <Hobbsee> there we go.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !mozillatest | asac 
[11:52] <ubotu> asac: The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ah it did :)
[11:52] <asac> Hobbsee: great ;)
[11:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: bot's obviously changed a bit since i last added factoids.   it's misbehaving.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: seems you have to say foo is bar, no foo is <alias> bling (x2), instead of just going foo is <alias> bling
[11:53] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:53] <gnomefreak> that is odd
[11:53] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:55] <Tonio_> seb128: okay I'll grep for the copyright in the code and indicate them file by file :)
[11:56] <seb128> Tonio_: thanks ;)
[12:46] <Kmos> any kernel developer ?
[12:46] <Kmos> bug 120677
[12:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120677 in linux-source-2.6.20 "uuid is never the same with w810i phone" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120677
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Kmos: doubt benc is awake yet
[12:46] <Kmos> :(
[01:08] <Kmos> bug 41809
[01:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41809 in alsa-driver "PCM level is reset to 0 after every reboot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41809
[01:09] <carlos> pitti: hi, around?
[01:09] <mjg59> Doesn't sound like an alsa-driver issue
[01:10] <pitti> carlos: hi
[01:10] <carlos> pitti: hi, we have a user on #ubuntu-translators complaining about Persian not being offered as a language to install on install time
[01:12] <pitti> carlos: hm, we have language-pack-fa, so this is rather an installer problem? evand?
[01:13] <carlos> pitti: ok, got more info
[01:13] <carlos> seems like the installer is not in Persian with all releases after Dapper
[01:13] <StevenK> Neat
[01:16] <carlos> pitti: ok, the problem is with liveCD, I guess we are not including Persian language pack with liveCD, are we?
[01:17] <pitti> carlos: we don't, but that's not the problem (it can be installed off the network)
[01:17] <pitti> carlos: I suspect there is a problem with supporting the fonts or so; cjwatson and/or evand might know
[01:17] <carlos> pitti: the problem he complains about is that they don't get the chance to select Persian
[01:17] <pitti> right, I understand
[01:17] <carlos> pitti: should I redirect them to debian-installer package in launchpad to file a bug?
[01:20] <carlos> pitti: he says that he gets the option to install the language pack (which confuses me because I think he said first he was not able to...)
[01:21] <pitti> carlos: ubiquity rather, I'd say
[01:21] <carlos> pitti: so the only thing I can think on is that debian-installer is not including Persian translation (this is outside language packs)
[01:22] <carlos> pitti: hmm, right, having its translations included in debian-installer confused me :-P
[01:22] <mjg59> carlos: Or that there's a fonts issue
[01:23] <carlos> ok, then I will ask him to file a bug against ubiquity 
[01:23] <carlos> so he can talk directly with someone that could fix the problem and understand it better :-)
[01:33] <Kmos> BenC: are you there?
[01:33] <BenC> Kmos: yes, I got your msg from yesterday
[01:33] <Kmos> from the PCM level reset to 0 ?
[01:33] <Kmos> bug 41809
[01:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41809 in alsa-driver "PCM level is reset to 0 after every reboot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41809
[01:35] <BenC> ubotu: sounds more like a alsa userspace bug
[01:35] <BenC> shit
[01:35] <BenC> Kmos: ^^
[01:36] <Kmos> BenC: that's a package ?
[01:37] <BenC> Kmos: alsa-base
[01:37] <Kmos> alsa-base points to alsa-driver
[01:37] <Kmos> :)
[01:38] <BenC> then try alsa-utils
[01:38] <BenC> either way, it's userspace that saves and restores the sound state
[01:38] <Kmos> changed :)
[01:38] <Kmos> thx
[01:39] <BenC> np
[01:40] <Kmos> i subscribed crimsun to the bug
[01:41] <Kmos> BenC: kernel-wedge needs update from debian
[01:41] <Kmos> 2.37 is out
[01:42] <BenC> it'll get done, but it's not urgent
[01:42] <BenC> Kmos: sub ubuntu-audio instead
[01:42] <BenC> err, I mean assign to ubuntu-audio
[01:47] <Kmos> BenC: ok
[01:55] <cypherbios> Hi mvo. Would you know what packages/daemon is the responsible for showing this dialog when a ubuntu medium is inserted in the drive? http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5500/screenshotsoftwarepackazz2.png
[01:55] <Kmos> BenC: this one is for you.. i think :) bug 120677
[01:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120677 in linux-source-2.6.20 "uuid is never the same with w810i phone" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120677
[01:55] <mvo> cypherbios: that one is update-notifier
[01:57] <cypherbios> mvo: sounds good. Would it accept a 'plugin' for showing the same dialog when another media (not Ubuntu specific) with packages is inserted?
[01:58] <cypherbios> mvo: In this case I mean a media created with aptoncd, which is perfectly apt-gettable
[01:58] <mvo> cypherbios: yes, as long as its suffiently different (the dialog). are you aware of the 3rdparty CD support that we also have? not sure how useful that is in the context of aptoncd
[02:00] <cypherbios> mvo: software-properties are enough to add the media as apt source. But I would like, when a aptoncd media is inserted in the drive, it automatically prompts this dialog (or something like this) asking the user if he wants to add media as apt source
[02:01] <mvo> cypherbios: sure, that should not be very hard
[02:01] <cypherbios> mvo: just a way to automatize things, just like with a ubuntu media
[02:01] <BenC> Kmos: is that firewire UUID?
[02:02] <cypherbios> mvo: How can I (or we if you want) can make it real? Could you point me the right path?
[02:03] <cypherbios> mvo: what criteria is used to identify a ubuntu CD? the .disk/info file or the label of the CD/DVD?
[02:04] <mvo> cypherbios: please look at /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-cdrom-check and src/hal.c 
[02:06] <Kmos> BenC: don't know.. i don't have reported the bug
[02:06] <Kmos> BenC: but I think it connects by usb
[02:08] <BenC> Kmos: nope, not a kernel bug...partition UUID is a userspace thing
[02:08] <Kmos> BenC: at good it says, it's a usb cable
[02:08] <Kmos> *good = google
[02:08] <Kmos> BenC: which package
[02:09] <Kmos> uuid - OSSP uuid
[02:09] <Kmos> ?
[02:09] <BenC> No idea..
[02:10] <Kmos> anyone here knows what handles uuid stuff ?
[02:10] <BenC> most likely it's a vfat partition...maybe the device is frequently changing it
[02:10] <BenC> Kmos: it could very well be the device is just dumb
[02:10] <Kmos> BenC: yeah
[02:11] <BenC> in which case the bug gets rejected based on the fact we can't fix stupid hw firmware
[02:12] <Kmos> reason: "The problem should be in w810i phone firmware..."
[02:12] <Kmos> it's ok ?
[02:15] <Kmos> BenC: done. rejected 
[02:35] <Viper550> hello
[02:42] <Keybuk> Viper550: WAIT!
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Keybuk: no Viper550 for you!
[02:43] <Tonio_> seb128: you rejected latest nm-applet upload ?
[02:52] <seb128> Tonio_: no, I didn't look at it yet, doing it now
[02:54] <seb128> Tonio_: looks like it has been accepted, must be pitti
[02:57] <silvertip257> I've compiled busybox and would like to add openssh to it for a network tool/project ... I have trouble when I try to chroot to compile openssh
[02:59] <pitti> seb128: yep, just did it
[02:59] <seb128> Martinp23: you claimed the gnome-games tarballs some time ago, are you still working on it?
[02:59] <pitti> Tonio_: I rejected the old one and accepted the latest one
[03:00] <seb128> pitti: do you do some NEW (just to know if we need to organize to not do the same reviews) or just this one?
[03:00] <pitti> seb128: just this one, due to urgency
[03:00] <seb128> k
[03:00] <seb128> thanks for doing it ;)
[03:00] <pitti> seb128: I take an hour break now, playing some Wesnoth :)
[03:00] <pitti> np
[03:00] <Martinp23> seb128: Interesting, I just sent dholbach and email about that :-).  I'm busy with exams at the moment unfortunately, so if anyone does want to take them off me, I wouldn't be averse to that.  Sorry about this - real life is a pain :S
[03:00] <seb128> enjoy!
[03:01] <seb128> Martinp23: no problem, that's alright, if you are not working on them better to update the wiki though so you don't block other people who could do it
[03:01] <Martinp23> OK seb128 - will do.
[03:02] <seb128> thank you
[03:07] <Tonio_> pitti: ah ok
[05:25] <cypherbios> mvo: I made a little hack in src/hal.c and data/apt-cdrom-check to recognise an aptoncd medium. I've added the RES_APTONCD=4
[05:25] <cypherbios> mvo: Would you take a look and merge this little patch?
[05:27] <cypherbios> as well a case CD_WITHAPTONCD
[05:32] <Hobbsee> morning sabdfl 
[05:32] <hunger> Anyone working on getting the apt stuff installable again?
[05:33] <pitti> hunger: what do you mean?
[05:33] <sabdfl> Hobbsee: 
[05:33] <sabdfl> hiya
[05:33] <Hobbsee> heh.  just ban the enter key.
[05:33] <sabdfl> anybody able to point me at the image for the current default ubuntu usplash?
[05:34] <hunger> pitti: aptitude says that there is a new version of apt, synaptic, etc.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: is it usplash-theme-ubuntu ?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> i'm not positive, i dont run gnome
[05:35] <hunger> pitti: But to do so it wants to deinstall ubuntu-desktop... plus most of the stuff that depends on.
[05:35] <pitti>        apt | 0.7.2ubuntu2 |         gutsy | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[05:35] <Hobbsee> er, in the source of
[05:36] <nrdb> I am using 2.14.3, when I view a directory with lots of .WMF files in it, the memory isn't freed when I quit Nautilus, is this a known problem, my 'Bug Report Tool' is functional
[05:38] <pitti> hunger: hm, I don't even have ubuntu-desktop, so I didn't notice
[05:45] <Hobbsee> exams are evil.
[05:58] <mikmorg> hello all
[05:59] <mikmorg> I have an issue in alsa, which is resolved as of 1.0.14. The latest deb packages for alsa, however, are 1.0.13. Is there a way I can press to have 1.0.14 packaged?
[06:00] <mikmorg> If anyone could assist me as to who I should discuss this with (I'm sure there is a more appropriate channel - possibly #alsa?), I would appreciate it.
[06:13] <cypherbios> mvo: ping
[06:14] <pitti> keescook: btw, your stock replies .user.js kicks ass! *big hug*
[06:14] <keescook> \o/
[06:14] <keescook> thanks!  I was just reading the backlog about it.  :)
[06:15] <keescook> did everyone get its use sorted?  I realize it's not the most intuitive design...
[06:15] <pitti> keescook: took me a while to get it going, but seems to work now; I still don't know why setting the bug status didn't work initially
[06:16] <keescook> If it was a brand new entry, the whole page needs to be reloaded.
[06:17] <keescook> I could fix that, but it requires some weird javascript dancing.  :P
[06:17] <pitti> keescook: would it be feasible to set the description in the normal description textarea instead of the very small input line?
[06:18] <pitti> keescook: I tried plenty of reloads, hmm
[06:18] <Riddell> enrico: I needed some changes for tagcoll1 to compile with gcc 4.3 http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_01_gcc4.3.diff
[06:18] <keescook> pitti: I was trying to have a trade-off between space and code sanity, etc, but I agree, it's not correct as is.  I'll fix it.
[06:19] <keescook> or I'm happy to take a patch.  ;)
[06:19] <pitti> keescook: oh, not urgent
[06:20] <calc> Riddell: bug 15451
[06:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 15451 in openoffice.org "Kubuntu SMB issue with OpenOffice" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15451
[06:21] <calc> Riddell: any ideas about that issue, seems like a smb kioslave issue(?)
[06:21] <calc> Riddell: tried to reassign it to kubuntu-meta but i get integrity errors in launchpad, heh
[06:23] <enrico> Riddell: thanks
[06:23] <Riddell> calc: I suspect it's because in /usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop etc we have X-KDE-Protocols=file,http,smb,ftp,webdav
[06:24] <Riddell> calc: I seem to remember someone telling me at the time that openoffice could do smb, presumably it can't
[06:24] <Riddell> calc: if you could remove smb from that line in the .desktop files that should fix it
[06:24] <calc> Riddell: it works with gnome smb somehow, not sure what it actually does
[06:24] <Riddell> hmm, curious
[06:24] <Riddell> maybe the URL format is different
[06:25] <Riddell> I'm sure openoffice won't do webdav:// URLs too
[06:25] <calc> the gnome places-network thing
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: hmm yea probably not
[06:25] <Riddell> calc: what's the URL format for a typical smb file on gnome?
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: it can open the file but locally only
[06:25] <calc> Riddell: no idea
[06:26] <calc> sorry i'm not much use on the details yet
[06:26] <calc> it says this when using the kde smb stuff
[06:26] <calc> ** Protocol "smb" is supported only partially. Local copy of the file will be created. **
[06:27] <sebbar> hi, will gutsy have slick-boot?
[06:27] <calc> i'll have to dig around and see what it is doing soon
[06:28] <exobuzz> from reading the bugs it seems not everyone is referring to the same problem.. with the kde file browser on openoffice, it has problems with kioslaves, but this is not the same problem as reported in the upstream bug listed
[06:30] <exobuzz> i always assumed its the way the file browser is "hacked" onto openoffice. There are some other strange things with it also.
[06:30] <exobuzz> its still better than the openoffice file requester though
[06:32] <exobuzz> personally, i still prefer "reqtools" on my amiga as a file chooser :D
[06:36] <calc> exobuzz: its a really old bug, apparently it used to break in different ways
[06:37] <calc> exobuzz: now it works fine under gnome but doesn't under kde, it works for reading but can't update the file
[06:52] <dholbach> siretart: do you know what the problem with bzr 0.17 and bzr-builddeb is?
[07:19] <DrFrasierCrane> hey, i have a stupid question..
[07:19] <DrFrasierCrane> is it possible to change gtk+ expander pixbuf used by default in ubuntu ?
[07:22] <mdomsch> what's the canonical way to know what version of Ubuntu is running presently?
[07:22] <mdomsch> s/running/installed/
[07:22] <mjg59> mdomsch: /etc/lsb_version
[07:22] <mjg59> Uh.
[07:22] <mjg59> /etc/lsb-release
[07:23] <mdomsch> mjg59, sweet, that'll work
[07:23] <mdomsch> does that get created at bootup, or at install time?
[07:23] <mdomsch> looks like install time
[07:23] <pitti> ogra: ltsp FTW! your blog sounds great
[07:24] <ogra> yeah
[07:24] <ogra> its a milestone :)
[07:27] <DrFrasierCrane> any gtk hackers ?
[07:28] <Treenaks> ogra: congratulations then :)
[07:28] <ogra> Treenaks, thanks :)
[07:29] <stgraber> ogra: I'll be able to test if my thin clients really boot <1 minute tomorrow afternoon :) Let's hope so
[07:32] <ogra> stgraber, the slowest one i have (the worst HW ever) makes it in 1:40 now, that one took nearly 4 min with feisty ...
[07:32] <stgraber> :)
[07:32] <ogra> usual times were around 90-110 secs with feisty though ... 
[07:33] <stgraber> I'm already playing with xorg.conf-less Xorg on a USB HDD, that's just beautiful to have Xorg detects everything (even better than the previous auto-detection)
[07:33] <stgraber> and that + others improvment will for sure make some people happy here :)
[07:34] <ogra> yeah
[07:34] <ogra> keyboards are an issue though
[07:35] <ogra> no xorg.conf no keymaps setting ...
[07:35] <ogra> *keymap
[07:40] <mjg59> pitti: To be honest, I think laptop-mode-tools really isn't appropriate for our purposes
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: hi
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: are you uploading daily lang packs for Gutsy as we agreed?
[07:40] <mjg59> So I think the merge is absolutely fine, but I'd be tempted to replace it with something much simpler for the default install
[07:40] <carlos> pitti: we just got an email asking for that
[07:59] <pitti> carlos: not yet, I want to wait until a base update for tribe-2 and then reengineer the stuff for daily packs
[07:59] <pitti> carlos: (no time yet)
[07:59] <pitti> mjg59: ok
[07:59] <carlos> pitti: ok, could I give any date estimation  for that?
[08:00] <pitti> carlos: what about June 25th?
[08:02] <carlos> next Monday?
[08:02] <carlos> that's fine
[08:02] <carlos> pitti: does it mean I should do a full export on Monday?
[08:03] <pitti> carlos: Saturday or Sunday would be better IMHO, to have some breathing space
[08:05] <cypherbios> mvo: I made a little hack in src/hal.c and data/apt-cdrom-check to recognise an aptoncd medium. I've added the RES_APTONCD=4 as well a case CD_WITHAPTONCD
[08:06] <carlos> pitti: ok
[08:06] <carlos> will do it on Sunday
[08:28] <carlos> pitti: btw, what about your people.ubuntu.com repository? is it getting daily updates for gutsy? I think it's not...
[08:42] <LaserJock> anybody know who is handling mailing lists?
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: no, just the daily base updates
[08:47] <carlos> pitti: daily base updates?
[08:47] <carlos> pitti: I'm not doing daily base updates
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: I take the full tarballs, not the delta ones
[08:47] <pitti> right
[08:47] <carlos> ok
[08:47] <pitti> carlos: but you said the delta ones were way too big ATM
[08:47] <pitti> due to some unlucky KDE export or so
[08:48] <carlos> pitti: indeed
[08:49] <Riddell> LaserJock: it depends on the list
[08:49] <carlos> although I didn't know I should move back to full exports ;-)
[08:49] <pitti> carlos: for tribe-2 it's enough, I think
[08:50] <carlos> ok
[08:53] <segfault> carlos: wanted to talk with me?
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: yeah
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: I'm cleaning up all pending files from the translation import queue
[08:54] <carlos> segfault: and I saw an entry from you for Linbox
[08:55] <carlos> I need to know whether you are part of its development team or whether they agreed on you importing that into Launchpad
[08:55] <carlos> to accept it
[08:55] <carlos> You can see the import policy to know more details: https://help.launchpad.net/RosettaImportPolicy
[09:00] <LaserJock> Riddell: I got a couple new MOTU lists apparently
[09:01] <LaserJock> one of them really shouldn't be a MOTU list though
[09:04] <Riddell> LaserJock: ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[09:06] <Riddell> mvo: well adept compiles, but it can't open the apt database
[09:06] <mvo> *ick*
[09:06] <mvo> Riddell: what is the error message?
[09:07] <Riddell> mvo: "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in a terminal as root and see if it helps to resolve the problem."
[09:08] <mvo> Riddell: is everything in place so that I can compile it myself (ie did you upload the fixes for the missing .la files already?) - then I have a look
[09:09] <Riddell> mvo: yes, although not everything may be through to the archive yet, debtags I only just uploaded
[09:10] <zasf> pitti: Hi Martin
[09:10] <zasf> pitti: I forgot to mention something in my last email
[09:10] <segfault> carlos: humm, the linbox developers asked me to remove all linbox entries from LP
[09:11] <segfault> carlos: can you do that?
[09:11] <LaserJock> seb128: do you mind if I patch gnome-panel to not show About Ubuntu when About Edubuntu exists?
[09:12] <mvo> Riddell: ok, I check it out. maybe a recompile for libapt-front first helps?
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: no, I cannot
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: I can remove the translation request
[09:12] <Riddell> mvo: done that
[09:12] <mvo> :/
[09:12] <carlos> segfault: for its project entry you will need to request it on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:16] <segfault> carlos: humm, ok.. so please drop the translation request please
[09:16] <Daviey> segfault: out of interest; did they state why?
[09:16] <carlos> segfault: already done. Thanks for your input
[09:17] <segfault> daviey: well, they said they want to manage the translation themselves, but maybe because they were acquired by mandriva IIRC...
[09:18] <Daviey> They make a conversion from ms-office tool?
[09:18] <segfault> daviey: i dont think so
[09:22] <seb128> LaserJock: attach the patch in launchpad rather so we can comment on it
[09:23] <LaserJock> seb128: will do
[09:24] <seb128> cool
[09:37] <pitti> zasf: hi
[10:13] <Mithrandir> hmm, how come network-manager-gnome doesn't depend on network-manager?
[10:15] <pitti> Mithrandir: good point, this probably got dropped inadvertedly in the split
[10:15] <pitti> good night everyone
[11:44] <Riddell> keescook: any ETA on security review for https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportXapianCore ?  it's blocking apt rebuilds
[11:45] <keescook> Riddell: ack, sorry, I should have time before EOD today.
[11:45] <Riddell> thanks