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| stgraber | @schedule Zurich | 08:24 |
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| ubotu | Schedule for Europe/Zurich: 20 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 20:00: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team | 26 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 08:24 |
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| coreymon77 | man | 08:59 |
| coreymon77 | the ubuntu community council meeting still hasnt been announced | 08:59 |
| coreymon77 | ? | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | @schedule | 08:59 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 20 Jun 20:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 18:00: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team | 26 Jun 15:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 12:00: Edubuntu | 08:59 |
| coreymon77 | ive looked | 08:59 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 21 Jun 18:00 UTC: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu US LoCo Team | 26 Jun 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | ||
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| ogra | meep meep | 10:00 |
| willvdl | meep | 10:00 |
| ogra | lets keep this short today :) | 10:00 |
| willvdl | ++ | 10:00 |
| === RichEd waves | ||
| ogra | soo, lets get started ? | 10:01 |
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| stgraber | good evening | 10:02 |
| willvdl | ogra, shoot | 10:02 |
| sbalneav | Present, teacher | 10:02 |
| nixternal | howdy | 10:02 |
| ogra | well, my update is sitting mainly on planet.ubuntu.com today :) | 10:02 |
| ogra | for tech that is | 10:02 |
| sbalneav | \o/ for us. | 10:03 |
| RichEd | hi sbalneav , nixternal , stgraber | 10:03 |
| === RichEd leads the 3 cheers for olli olli olliver | ||
| cliebow_ | yay | 10:03 |
| ogra | yeah, sbalneav did some awesome work on ldm the ast days | 10:03 |
| RichEd | and scot scot scottie ! | 10:03 |
| ogra | he deserves a lot cheering :) | 10:03 |
| ogra | thats a milestone breakthrough in LTSP .... | 10:04 |
| sbalneav | I have a help item for the end of the meeting. | 10:04 |
| ogra | gutsy will get *very* intresting | 10:04 |
| sbalneav | Danka schoen. | 10:04 |
| ogra | byond the ltsp work i didnt do much this week, we all were up to our sholders in the guts of ltsp during the last 5-10 days :) | 10:05 |
| ogra | LaserJock made his main dev application finally ... | 10:05 |
| ogra | he can upload to main now and already started working on stuff :) | 10:06 |
| cliebow_ | bbiab | 10:06 |
| ogra | well, anyway, nothing else comes to mind for tech stuff this week ... the CDs seem to look fine atm ... | 10:07 |
| ogra | any questions for tech ? | 10:07 |
| === RichEd has nothing | ||
| ogra | oki, documentation | 10:08 |
| ogra | anyone ? | 10:08 |
| ogra | hmm, quiet today | 10:09 |
| sbalneav | Umm, I've been doing a bit of piddling with the new ltsp | 10:09 |
| willvdl | sorry | 10:09 |
| nixternal | has it been decided on how to move forward with the layout yet on docs? i.e. topic based help? | 10:09 |
| willvdl | the recipe page is up | 10:09 |
| sbalneav | nothing's been uploaded to the svn yet. | 10:09 |
| willvdl | ++ for laserjock's suggestion | 10:09 |
| willvdl | although the proof is in the pudding | 10:09 |
| willvdl | nixternal, not yet | 10:10 |
| willvdl | I put the discussion page on the wiki | 10:10 |
| willvdl | but we need to decide how to handle TBH versus Recipes versus Handbook | 10:10 |
| sbalneav | Mmmm, pudding. | 10:10 |
| nixternal | OK, what is the #1 item to get taken care of for docs at this time? | 10:10 |
| willvdl | nixternal, structure :| | 10:10 |
| willvdl | as we discussed last time, TBH for us versus Ubuntu is an interesting question | 10:11 |
| nixternal | true. any plans to pull recipes in as a doc that can be installed locally? | 10:12 |
| willvdl | nixternal, the idea is mainly to get recipes | 10:12 |
| nixternal | gotcha | 10:12 |
| willvdl | contribution is the biggest thing | 10:12 |
| willvdl | the FAQ page is having some success | 10:12 |
| willvdl | I think we all like the idea of the handbook being a TBH structure but we need to leverage a good doc base to do it | 10:13 |
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| nixternal | do we have a list of items that need to be added to this doc base? I just don't want to wait until the last minute and have nothing to show when it comes to freeze time | 10:14 |
| nixternal | I feel this has happened for the past 2 releases now, although we at least had a little bit to show for Feisty thanks to LaserJock | 10:15 |
| willvdl | nixternal, no we don't. we need contribs | 10:15 |
| willvdl | and sbalnaev | 10:15 |
| nixternal | k, what needs to be contributed? I will leave ltsp stuff to sbalneav for 2 reasons, 1) I am ignorant when it comes to ltsp, and 2) sbalneav is the mastah :) | 10:16 |
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| willvdl | nixternal, essentially we have technical references i.e. ltsp, gui management tools and any other edubuntu specific config or usage stuff | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | blah, busy day, sorry I'm late | 10:17 |
| willvdl | and then we have recipes which look at best practices, use cases, experiences | 10:17 |
| nixternal | welcome LaserJock | 10:17 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, just in time :) | 10:17 |
| RichEd | hi TaserJock | 10:17 |
| willvdl | I'm not up to speed with the thin client gui stuff | 10:20 |
| ogra | there is no chaneg yet | 10:20 |
| ogra | *change | 10:20 |
| willvdl | ogra, or tcm | 10:21 |
| ogra | TCM is still the same as in feisty, cbx33 seems to have lost interest | 10:21 |
| willvdl | nixternal, the best I can offer at the mo is to grab from a pool of 3rd party docs and integrate | 10:22 |
| ogra | i will keep it updated if anything changes wrt dependencies, but wont add any code this release | 10:22 |
| ogra | so if nobody steps up it wont change | 10:22 |
| ogra | eyond that there is no ltsp gui stuff yet ... | 10:22 |
| willvdl | cool | 10:23 |
| ogra | i'm hoping to get some done this release, but there was more important low level stuff first | 10:23 |
| ogra | that will get documented along development | 10:23 |
| ogra | i'm also working on ldm translatability ... probably something to point out to the translators | 10:24 |
| willvdl | well, in a nutshell we have the recipes which we should push on the MLs | 10:24 |
| willvdl | IMHO | 10:24 |
| ogra | right | 10:24 |
| willvdl | it's our best bet | 10:24 |
| ogra | there is also this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-May/001059.html | 10:25 |
| willvdl | if folks can write up their configs/experiences etc. it is _very_ valuable | 10:25 |
| ogra | i was hoping for a community member to step up and sort it | 10:25 |
| willvdl | ogra, saw that and it is bookmarked | 10:25 |
| ogra | probably i wasnt clear enough in the mail, since nobody stepped up for it ... | 10:25 |
| willvdl | I want to handle it in an attempt to move those docs from wiki.edu.org to help.u.c | 10:26 |
| willvdl | but time... | 10:26 |
| ogra | willvdl, well, its a trivial task we should give to some new contributor | 10:26 |
| ogra | its good to find your way in ... | 10:26 |
| willvdl | shweet | 10:26 |
| willvdl | damn it, reminds me I didn't finalise the bite sized task page | 10:27 |
| willvdl | urk | 10:27 |
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| willvdl | shall we move to the website? | 10:28 |
| ogra | sure | 10:35 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, you here? | 10:35 |
| ogra | even pips1 is missing today | 10:35 |
| willvdl | ogra, we had a small problem with the server | 10:35 |
| RichEd | willvdl: he went to bed about 45 mins ago (highvoltage) | 10:35 |
| willvdl | it was running breezy | 10:35 |
| ogra | ouch | 10:35 |
| ogra | thats bad ... | 10:35 |
| ogra | was it upgraded now ? | 10:35 |
| willvdl | is said theyd have it done by today | 10:36 |
| ogra | oki | 10:36 |
| willvdl | wanted to check with highvoltage since I was on a plane | 10:36 |
| willvdl | anyhoo. once we have a stable webserver | 10:36 |
| willvdl | we can introduce the new template | 10:36 |
| ogra | cool | 10:36 |
| willvdl | then we can update front page docs and references | 10:36 |
| willvdl | a HIGH priority | 10:36 |
| RichEd | good stuff ... | 10:36 |
| ogra | do we have a public preview of the new stuff ? | 10:36 |
| ogra | css etc ? | 10:36 |
| willvdl | don't know without pips1 or highvoltage. I know there is a sandbox somoewhere | 10:36 |
| ogra | ok, next week then | 10:36 |
| willvdl | same server as the beta community site | 10:36 |
| ogra | ah | 10:36 |
| willvdl | ogra, it is my priority for tomorrow :) | 10:36 |
| RichEd | On a related note, Gerry (canonical PRO) and Joe (external PRO) will speak to me about a general edubuntu marketing campaign / plan ... either tomorrow or next thursday during a con call. | 10:36 |
| ogra | cool | 10:36 |
| RichEd | So we can reuse the updated information we put together ... | 10:36 |
| willvdl | excellent | 10:36 |
| RichEd | Seems like some decent enquiries are now coming in from the US ... | 10:36 |
| RichEd | (that v!$st@ stuff seems to be makking people nervous) | 10:36 |
| ogra | is that gerry carr ? | 10:36 |
| RichEd | Yep ... Gerry Carr, and they use Joe Eckhart to manage the journalist enquiries | 10:36 |
| ogra | ah, very cool, we met at linuxtag in berlin | 10:36 |
| RichEd | Gerry is UK based (in the office) and Joe is US consultant | 10:36 |
| ogra | anything else for docs ? | 10:37 |
| ogra | seems not ... | 10:38 |
| willvdl | nope. going to push recipes on the ML :) | 10:38 |
| ogra | since we skipped artwork ... just pro-forma ... anything for artwork ? | 10:38 |
| willvdl | not from me | 10:39 |
| ogra | seems not either ... | 10:39 |
| ogra | well, moving on then ... | 10:39 |
| ogra | community ? | 10:39 |
| willvdl | Jordan ++ | 10:39 |
| RichEd | pips1 has been working on the community site ... he and i spoke during the week | 10:39 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, ++ I mean | 10:39 |
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| ogra | willvdl, yeah | 10:40 |
| RichEd | not much to report ... just that pips1 is soldiering on | 10:40 |
| ogra | our developer community has grown by 100% in main :) | 10:40 |
| ogra | (edubuntu develpper community) | 10:40 |
| RichEd | \o/ | 10:41 |
| ogra | well ... i think RichEd already went ahead with marketing before ... | 10:41 |
| ogra | :) | 10:42 |
| ogra | anything to add ? | 10:42 |
| RichEd | On the Management Side ... been busy with: | 10:42 |
| RichEd | 1) Intel and the Classmate PC | 10:42 |
| RichEd | 2) Edulinux Moodle project | 10:42 |
| RichEd | 3) Objectives planning for next 6 months | 10:42 |
| RichEd | That's all ... behind the scenes stuff ... | 10:42 |
| ogra | great :) | 10:43 |
| RichEd | Not too much of interest, except that Intel are working closer and close with *buntu | 10:43 |
| willvdl | ogra, did you get the classmate wireless driver? | 10:43 |
| ogra | willvdl, nope, still waiting for BenC | 10:43 |
| willvdl | cool | 10:43 |
| ogra | i *have* a selfbuilt drive i use in the image, but it lacks network-manager support which Bens apparently has | 10:44 |
| ogra | *driver | 10:44 |
| ogra | willvdl, well, not really | 10:44 |
| === RichEd was wondering about oliver building a HDD ... was very impressed for a minute | ||
| === LaserJock is at work, and finishes reading backlog | ||
| ogra | if justin would be more push we'd have a prob | 10:45 |
| ogra | *pushy | 10:45 |
| RichEd | ogra: for once it is the "contract people" who have held things up ... | 10:45 |
| willvdl | ? | 10:46 |
| ogra | RichEd, well, i couldnt do much on the image for more than a wek now since that blocks me ... | 10:46 |
| RichEd | the work you have done and from ben is good faith ... still no paperwork to back it up | 10:46 |
| ogra | and the people who are in charge know that but still dont get their asses up | 10:46 |
| RichEd | ^ needs to be formalised really ... so we can allocate time | 10:46 |
| willvdl | ogra, did any of the Eduvision guys contact you about classmate image? | 10:48 |
| ogra | willvdl, nope | 10:48 |
| ogra | nothing apart from your mail wehre you CCed me | 10:49 |
| willvdl | okie. will ping them again on the side. | 10:49 |
| willvdl | will be interested to see what they did on Classmate | 10:49 |
| willvdl | better yet, local phone call :) | 10:49 |
| willvdl | shall we wrap up? | 10:51 |
| willvdl | I'd like to make an urgent call for documentation writers | 10:52 |
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| LaserJock | I'm planning on pushing out an edubuntu-docs soonish | 10:52 |
| willvdl | all contribs welcome! | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | probably this evening after work | 10:52 |
| sbalneav | I'll get more doco done once devel slacks off a bit. | 10:52 |
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| willvdl | LaserJock, as usual, you're my new best friend | 10:52 |
| ogra_ | hrm | 10:53 |
| ogra_ | LaserJock had an item for the agenda and i think we're done with the general stuff | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | right now I'm working on patching gnome-panel to not show About Ubuntu when About Edubuntu is installed | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: I did? | 10:53 |
| sbalneav | I have an item, when we're done everything important. | 10:53 |
| ogra_ | LaserJock, sorry mixed you with sbalneav ... you ook so similar you two ... i always mix yu up :P | 10:54 |
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| willvdl | All these americans look aliek | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: haha | 10:54 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: I'm flattered, I think you should be insulted. | 10:54 |
| === RichEd does that all the time ... met one ... met them all | ||
| LaserJock | willvdl: heah, he's Canadian | 10:54 |
| sbalneav | AMERCIAN?!?!?! | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | we don't claim him | 10:54 |
| sbalneav | Puleeeez | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 10:54 |
| willvdl | argh. oops | 10:54 |
| sbalneav | :) | 10:54 |
| sbalneav | ok, here's my question. | 10:55 |
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| sbalneav | WHY ARE MY *&*&%@*^% BLOG POSTS ALWAYS SCREWED UP? | 10:55 |
| ogra_ | are they ? | 10:55 |
| sbalneav | Can someone PLEASE tell me what I'm doing wrong? | 10:55 |
| sbalneav | Yes | 10:55 |
| === RichEd suspects it has something to do with a Caps Lock key ? | ||
| RichEd | (and bad language) | 10:56 |
| ogra_ | sbalneav, your clock on the server is wrong ? | 10:56 |
| sbalneav | it's like my entire blog entry's in the title? | 10:56 |
| sbalneav | I'm using the google bloggy thing. | 10:56 |
| ogra_ | no idea about that | 10:56 |
| sbalneav | If someone can figure it out, there's a beer in it for them in Boston. | 10:56 |
| sbalneav | :) | 10:56 |
| ogra_ | i use a totally outdated blosxom setup | 10:56 |
| willvdl | sbalneav, you mena fridge or planet or what? | 10:57 |
| sbalneav | On planet. | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | and add my entries with vi as .txt files ot the data dir ... | 10:57 |
| ogra_ | so dont ask me about blogging :) | 10:57 |
| RichEd | sbalneav: ask nixternal ? he's a fridge editor ? | 10:57 |
| sbalneav | nixternal: any idears? | 10:57 |
| willvdl | and LaserJock ... | 10:57 |
| willvdl | folks, shattered. going to bed. will pop minutes up tomorrow | 10:58 |
| sbalneav | I'm getting frightened of LaserJock. I mean, he's now more powerful than Ollie. | 10:58 |
| nixternal | huh? | 10:58 |
| RichEd | or better still ... ask as a comment in your next post ... mention that you don't know why _xyz_ happens ... and offer that beer to the floor ? | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I think not | 10:58 |
| sbalneav | I mean, they're both able to commit to main, but LaserJock's got access to Lasers as well. | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: I'm eeeeevvvverywhere | 10:58 |
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| sbalneav | Main + Lasers = a force to be reckoned with. | 10:59 |
| willvdl | but does he have access to shark's with laserbeams on their frikkin heads? | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | of course | 10:59 |
| sbalneav | All he needs is a shark | 10:59 |
| willvdl | seabass will do | 10:59 |
| willvdl | illtempered of course | 10:59 |
| sbalneav | A very annoyed mackeral will do. | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | I'm doing an interdisciplinary reasearch study with an aquatic mammals group in the Biology dept. | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 11:00 |
| sbalneav | lol | 11:00 |
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| RichEd | LaserJock: is that how the mermaid abuse rumours got started ? | 11:00 |
| ogra_ | lol | 11:00 |
| sbalneav | nixternal: my blog posts on planet are always mucked up | 11:01 |
| sbalneav | Something with the googly blogger thingymadoodle. | 11:01 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 11:01 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: I plead the 5th | 11:01 |
| willvdl | LaserJock, mackeral are hardly "nerdly", just "misunderstood" | 11:01 |
| nixternal | there is no telling with the planet | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | to me it looks as if the clock is totally wrong first place ... | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | scotty post was after mine but shows up way below | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | *scotties post | 11:02 |
| sbalneav | Well, between my mucked up posts, and Scott James Remnant randomly re-posting every blog entry he's ever made, it makes for interesting reading :) | 11:02 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, I notice that. | 11:03 |
| ogra_ | sbalneav, thats a bug of his blog software | 11:03 |
| sbalneav | Probably have to set a timezone somewhere. | 11:03 |
| LaserJock | I use wordpress.com and everything works wonderfully | 11:03 |
| ogra_ | LaserJock, how boring | 11:03 |
| LaserJock | I know | 11:04 |
| LaserJock | I even migrated the blog | 11:04 |
| LaserJock | and it "Just Worked" | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | bah | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | anyway, anything else for the meeting ? | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | going once ... | 11:05 |
| LaserJock | not particularly | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | going twwwwice ... | 11:06 |
| LaserJock | I'll try to flex my new found powers this week | 11:06 |
| sbalneav | Can I be dismissed, teacher? | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | adjourned ... | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | !! | 11:06 |
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| RichEd | thanks all | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | thanks all | 11:06 |
| RichEd | have a good one | 11:06 |
| sbalneav | Bitte schoen | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | you too | 11:06 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: that's how it's spelled? | 11:07 |
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| sbalneav | Well, it should be schon with an umlaut over the o | 11:07 |
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| willvdl | sbalneav, buy a donkey | 11:07 |
| sbalneav | But when I turn my : key sideways, it doesn't work. | 11:07 |
| ogra | LaserJock, oe is the proper way to write | 11:07 |
| RichEd | sbalneav: try harder ... twist your head perhaps ? | 11:08 |
| sbalneav | yeah, that thing. | 11:08 |
| willvdl | loose translation for "baie dankie" | 11:08 |
| RichEd | goodnight | 11:08 |
| sbalneav | Night | 11:08 |
| willvdl | sbalneav, you've got to turn your monitor with it | 11:08 |
| ogra | night | 11:08 |
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| sbalneav | Ohhh, THAT's what I'm doing wrong. | 11:08 |
| LaserJock | phew | 11:08 |
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| LaserJock | and they let you code? | 11:09 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 11:09 |
| sbalneav | Yes, apparently. | 11:09 |
| sbalneav | No accounting for taste. | 11:09 |
| sbalneav | :) | 11:09 |
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