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announced [08:59] ? [08:59] @schedule [08:59] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 20 Jun 20:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 18:00: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team | 26 Jun 15:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 12:00: Edubuntu [08:59] ive looked === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pochu [n=emilio@29.Red-88-24-187.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Ju` [n=Ju@AAubervilliers-153-1-18-118.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Ju` is now known as Ju === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=jack@p508D818E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 21 Jun 18:00 UTC: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu US LoCo Team | 26 Jun 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-169-201.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A64805.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lns [n=lns@75.61.204.105] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] meep meep [10:00] meep [10:00] lets keep this short today :) [10:00] ++ === RichEd waves [10:01] soo, lets get started ? === cottima [n=namae@pool-70-110-4-214.roa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:02] good evening [10:02] ogra, shoot [10:02] Present, teacher [10:02] howdy [10:02] well, my update is sitting mainly on planet.ubuntu.com today :) [10:02] for tech that is [10:03] \o/ for us. [10:03] hi sbalneav , nixternal , stgraber === RichEd leads the 3 cheers for olli olli olliver [10:03] yay [10:03] yeah, sbalneav did some awesome work on ldm the ast days [10:03] and scot scot scottie ! [10:03] he deserves a lot cheering :) [10:04] thats a milestone breakthrough in LTSP .... [10:04] I have a help item for the end of the meeting. [10:04] gutsy will get *very* intresting [10:04] Danka schoen. [10:05] byond the ltsp work i didnt do much this week, we all were up to our sholders in the guts of ltsp during the last 5-10 days :) [10:05] LaserJock made his main dev application finally ... [10:06] he can upload to main now and already started working on stuff :) [10:06] bbiab [10:07] well, anyway, nothing else comes to mind for tech stuff this week ... the CDs seem to look fine atm ... [10:07] any questions for tech ? === RichEd has nothing [10:08] oki, documentation [10:08] anyone ? [10:09] hmm, quiet today [10:09] Umm, I've been doing a bit of piddling with the new ltsp [10:09] sorry [10:09] has it been decided on how to move forward with the layout yet on docs? i.e. topic based help? [10:09] the recipe page is up [10:09] nothing's been uploaded to the svn yet. [10:09] ++ for laserjock's suggestion [10:09] although the proof is in the pudding [10:10] nixternal, not yet [10:10] I put the discussion page on the wiki [10:10] but we need to decide how to handle TBH versus Recipes versus Handbook [10:10] Mmmm, pudding. [10:10] OK, what is the #1 item to get taken care of for docs at this time? [10:10] nixternal, structure :| [10:11] as we discussed last time, TBH for us versus Ubuntu is an interesting question [10:12] true. any plans to pull recipes in as a doc that can be installed locally? [10:12] nixternal, the idea is mainly to get recipes [10:12] gotcha [10:12] contribution is the biggest thing [10:12] the FAQ page is having some success [10:13] I think we all like the idea of the handbook being a TBH structure but we need to leverage a good doc base to do it === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:14] do we have a list of items that need to be added to this doc base? I just don't want to wait until the last minute and have nothing to show when it comes to freeze time [10:15] I feel this has happened for the past 2 releases now, although we at least had a little bit to show for Feisty thanks to LaserJock [10:15] nixternal, no we don't. we need contribs [10:15] and sbalnaev [10:16] k, what needs to be contributed? I will leave ltsp stuff to sbalneav for 2 reasons, 1) I am ignorant when it comes to ltsp, and 2) sbalneav is the mastah :) === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:16] nixternal, essentially we have technical references i.e. ltsp, gui management tools and any other edubuntu specific config or usage stuff [10:17] blah, busy day, sorry I'm late [10:17] and then we have recipes which look at best practices, use cases, experiences [10:17] welcome LaserJock [10:17] LaserJock, just in time :) [10:17] hi TaserJock [10:20] I'm not up to speed with the thin client gui stuff [10:20] there is no chaneg yet [10:20] *change [10:21] ogra, or tcm [10:21] TCM is still the same as in feisty, cbx33 seems to have lost interest [10:22] nixternal, the best I can offer at the mo is to grab from a pool of 3rd party docs and integrate [10:22] i will keep it updated if anything changes wrt dependencies, but wont add any code this release [10:22] so if nobody steps up it wont change [10:22] eyond that there is no ltsp gui stuff yet ... [10:23] cool [10:23] i'm hoping to get some done this release, but there was more important low level stuff first [10:23] that will get documented along development [10:24] i'm also working on ldm translatability ... probably something to point out to the translators [10:24] well, in a nutshell we have the recipes which we should push on the MLs [10:24] IMHO [10:24] right [10:24] it's our best bet [10:25] there is also this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-May/001059.html [10:25] if folks can write up their configs/experiences etc. it is _very_ valuable [10:25] i was hoping for a community member to step up and sort it [10:25] ogra, saw that and it is bookmarked [10:25] probably i wasnt clear enough in the mail, since nobody stepped up for it ... [10:26] I want to handle it in an attempt to move those docs from wiki.edu.org to help.u.c [10:26] but time... [10:26] willvdl, well, its a trivial task we should give to some new contributor [10:26] its good to find your way in ... [10:26] shweet [10:27] damn it, reminds me I didn't finalise the bite sized task page [10:27] urk === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:28] shall we move to the website? [10:35] sure [10:35] highvoltage, you here? [10:35] even pips1 is missing today [10:35] ogra, we had a small problem with the server [10:35] willvdl: he went to bed about 45 mins ago (highvoltage) [10:35] it was running breezy [10:35] ouch [10:35] thats bad ... [10:35] was it upgraded now ? [10:36] is said theyd have it done by today [10:36] oki [10:36] wanted to check with highvoltage since I was on a plane [10:36] anyhoo. once we have a stable webserver [10:36] we can introduce the new template [10:36] cool [10:36] then we can update front page docs and references [10:36] a HIGH priority [10:36] good stuff ... [10:36] do we have a public preview of the new stuff ? [10:36] css etc ? [10:36] don't know without pips1 or highvoltage. I know there is a sandbox somoewhere [10:36] ok, next week then [10:36] same server as the beta community site [10:36] ah [10:36] ogra, it is my priority for tomorrow :) [10:36] On a related note, Gerry (canonical PRO) and Joe (external PRO) will speak to me about a general edubuntu marketing campaign / plan ... either tomorrow or next thursday during a con call. [10:36] cool [10:36] So we can reuse the updated information we put together ... [10:36] excellent [10:36] Seems like some decent enquiries are now coming in from the US ... [10:36] (that v!$st@ stuff seems to be makking people nervous) [10:36] is that gerry carr ? [10:36] Yep ... Gerry Carr, and they use Joe Eckhart to manage the journalist enquiries [10:36] ah, very cool, we met at linuxtag in berlin [10:36] Gerry is UK based (in the office) and Joe is US consultant [10:37] anything else for docs ? [10:38] seems not ... [10:38] nope. going to push recipes on the ML :) [10:38] since we skipped artwork ... just pro-forma ... anything for artwork ? [10:39] not from me [10:39] seems not either ... [10:39] well, moving on then ... [10:39] community ? [10:39] Jordan ++ [10:39] pips1 has been working on the community site ... he and i spoke during the week [10:39] LaserJock, ++ I mean === ogra was rather busy in #ltsp the last days and didnt pay deep attention to #edubuntu [10:40] willvdl, yeah [10:40] not much to report ... just that pips1 is soldiering on [10:40] our developer community has grown by 100% in main :) [10:40] (edubuntu develpper community) [10:41] \o/ [10:41] well ... i think RichEd already went ahead with marketing before ... [10:42] :) [10:42] anything to add ? [10:42] On the Management Side ... been busy with: [10:42] 1) Intel and the Classmate PC [10:42] 2) Edulinux Moodle project [10:42] 3) Objectives planning for next 6 months [10:42] That's all ... behind the scenes stuff ... [10:43] great :) [10:43] Not too much of interest, except that Intel are working closer and close with *buntu [10:43] ogra, did you get the classmate wireless driver? [10:43] willvdl, nope, still waiting for BenC [10:43] cool [10:44] i *have* a selfbuilt drive i use in the image, but it lacks network-manager support which Bens apparently has [10:44] *driver [10:44] willvdl, well, not really === RichEd was wondering about oliver building a HDD ... was very impressed for a minute === LaserJock is at work, and finishes reading backlog [10:45] if justin would be more push we'd have a prob [10:45] *pushy [10:45] ogra: for once it is the "contract people" who have held things up ... [10:46] ? [10:46] RichEd, well, i couldnt do much on the image for more than a wek now since that blocks me ... [10:46] the work you have done and from ben is good faith ... still no paperwork to back it up [10:46] and the people who are in charge know that but still dont get their asses up [10:46] ^ needs to be formalised really ... so we can allocate time [10:48] ogra, did any of the Eduvision guys contact you about classmate image? [10:48] willvdl, nope [10:49] nothing apart from your mail wehre you CCed me [10:49] okie. will ping them again on the side. [10:49] will be interested to see what they did on Classmate [10:49] better yet, local phone call :) [10:51] shall we wrap up? [10:52] I'd like to make an urgent call for documentation writers === RichEd is happy to wind it up for the night [10:52] I'm planning on pushing out an edubuntu-docs soonish [10:52] all contribs welcome! [10:52] probably this evening after work [10:52] I'll get more doco done once devel slacks off a bit. === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AEE55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:52] LaserJock, as usual, you're my new best friend [10:53] hrm [10:53] LaserJock had an item for the agenda and i think we're done with the general stuff [10:53] right now I'm working on patching gnome-panel to not show About Ubuntu when About Edubuntu is installed [10:53] ogra_: I did? [10:53] I have an item, when we're done everything important. [10:54] LaserJock, sorry mixed you with sbalneav ... you ook so similar you two ... i always mix yu up :P === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:54] All these americans look aliek [10:54] ogra_: haha [10:54] LaserJock: I'm flattered, I think you should be insulted. === RichEd does that all the time ... met one ... met them all [10:54] willvdl: heah, he's Canadian [10:54] AMERCIAN?!?!?! [10:54] we don't claim him [10:54] Puleeeez [10:54] ;-) [10:54] argh. oops [10:54] :) [10:55] ok, here's my question. === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:55] WHY ARE MY *&*&%@*^% BLOG POSTS ALWAYS SCREWED UP? [10:55] are they ? [10:55] Can someone PLEASE tell me what I'm doing wrong? [10:55] Yes === RichEd suspects it has something to do with a Caps Lock key ? [10:56] (and bad language) [10:56] sbalneav, your clock on the server is wrong ? [10:56] it's like my entire blog entry's in the title? [10:56] I'm using the google bloggy thing. [10:56] no idea about that [10:56] If someone can figure it out, there's a beer in it for them in Boston. [10:56] :) [10:56] i use a totally outdated blosxom setup [10:57] sbalneav, you mena fridge or planet or what? [10:57] On planet. [10:57] and add my entries with vi as .txt files ot the data dir ... [10:57] so dont ask me about blogging :) [10:57] sbalneav: ask nixternal ? he's a fridge editor ? [10:57] nixternal: any idears? [10:57] and LaserJock ... [10:58] folks, shattered. going to bed. will pop minutes up tomorrow [10:58] I'm getting frightened of LaserJock. I mean, he's now more powerful than Ollie. [10:58] huh? [10:58] or better still ... ask as a comment in your next post ... mention that you don't know why _xyz_ happens ... and offer that beer to the floor ? [10:58] hmm, I think not [10:58] I mean, they're both able to commit to main, but LaserJock's got access to Lasers as well. [10:58] sbalneav: I'm eeeeevvvverywhere === RichEd screams and runs ..... aaargh flee from the TaserJock [10:59] Main + Lasers = a force to be reckoned with. [10:59] but does he have access to shark's with laserbeams on their frikkin heads? [10:59] of course [10:59] All he needs is a shark [10:59] seabass will do [10:59] illtempered of course [11:00] A very annoyed mackeral will do. [11:00] I'm doing an interdisciplinary reasearch study with an aquatic mammals group in the Biology dept. [11:00] ;-) [11:00] lol === LaserJock starts humming "White and Nerdy" [11:00] LaserJock: is that how the mermaid abuse rumours got started ? [11:00] lol [11:01] nixternal: my blog posts on planet are always mucked up [11:01] Something with the googly blogger thingymadoodle. [11:01] hahaha [11:01] RichEd: I plead the 5th [11:01] LaserJock, mackeral are hardly "nerdly", just "misunderstood" [11:02] there is no telling with the planet [11:02] to me it looks as if the clock is totally wrong first place ... [11:02] scotty post was after mine but shows up way below [11:02] *scotties post [11:02] Well, between my mucked up posts, and Scott James Remnant randomly re-posting every blog entry he's ever made, it makes for interesting reading :) [11:03] Yeah, I notice that. [11:03] sbalneav, thats a bug of his blog software [11:03] Probably have to set a timezone somewhere. [11:03] I use wordpress.com and everything works wonderfully [11:03] LaserJock, how boring [11:04] I know [11:04] I even migrated the blog [11:04] and it "Just Worked" [11:04] bah [11:05] anyway, anything else for the meeting ? [11:05] going once ... [11:05] not particularly [11:06] going twwwwice ... [11:06] I'll try to flex my new found powers this week [11:06] Can I be dismissed, teacher? [11:06] adjourned ... [11:06] !! === sbalneav bangs gavel [11:06] thanks all [11:06] thanks all [11:06] have a good one [11:06] Bitte schoen [11:06] you too [11:07] sbalneav: that's how it's spelled? === RichEd waves goodbye to the four corners of the known edubuntu world [11:07] Well, it should be schon with an umlaut over the o === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@unaffiliated/coreymon77] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [11:07] sbalneav, buy a donkey [11:07] But when I turn my : key sideways, it doesn't work. [11:07] LaserJock, oe is the proper way to write [11:08] sbalneav: try harder ... twist your head perhaps ? [11:08] yeah, that thing. [11:08] loose translation for "baie dankie" [11:08] goodnight [11:08] Night [11:08] sbalneav, you've got to turn your monitor with it [11:08] night === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-169-201.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["~>] [11:08] Ohhh, THAT's what I'm doing wrong. [11:08] phew === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [11:09] and they let you code? [11:09] ;-) [11:09] Yes, apparently. [11:09] No accounting for taste. 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