[09:26] <hjmf> morning!
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> morning hjmf
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> seems like we may need to redo a lot of the bugs because of the update to LP
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> have you seen the link?
[09:50] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: I know about the update, but I haven't seen changes yet
[09:50] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: which link?
[10:06] <hjmf> \me 's afk
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> the email to bugsquad that is
[10:39] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: I've seen your patch to HTMLOperations.py; against what version is it?
[10:40] <hjmf> main in bzr
[10:41] <hjmf> I said that because if you want you can also patch that branch
[10:41] <hjmf> status_values = [ "Unconfirmed", "Needs Info", "Rejected", "Confirmed",
[10:41] <hjmf>                           "In Progress", "Fix Commited", "Fix Released" ] 
[10:41] <hjmf> 
[10:41] <hjmf> in set_status()
[10:42] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: and you'll get the credits :)
[10:53] <asac> finally we have a small flame-fest too :) ... bug states
[11:11] <asac> out to get some food
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: did you find out the command kmenu is using to launch -trunk?
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> firefox-trunk %u iirc
[11:23] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> hjmf: let me check
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> it was against version: hmm.
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> latest version of bughelper
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: ill look into it later today
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i forgot to do bzr up for lp-py-bugs
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds good
[11:26] <hjmf> Admiral_Chicago: yes, I thing you should patch the bzr version too :)
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yea against latest revision in lp-py-bugs.
[11:26] <hjmf> yep
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean?
[11:26] <hjmf> yes*
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> we are waiting on LP to actually update so that this could to work.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: this issue is on feisty kde 3.5.7?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> asac: granparadiso was pushed already or is this another upload?
[11:45] <asac> grandparadiso is still in NEW
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh maybe because i installed it
[11:46] <asac> !mozillatesting
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatesting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <asac> !mozillatest
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozillatest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ah that would me it
[11:46] <asac> what wast the fact?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> !moztest
[11:46] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> that one?
[11:47] <asac> yeah :)
[11:47] <asac> thanks
[11:47] <gnomefreak> i might alias other triggers
[11:47] <asac> gnomefreak: do we have -trunk in Preview ... or also granparadiso?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: can you check what command kmenueditor is using to launch it
[11:47] <gnomefreak> just trunk
[11:48] <gnomefreak> asac: thats what i am trying to figure out atm
[11:48] <asac> ok
[11:48] <asac> isnt' really important
[11:48] <gnomefreak> asac: maybe we should make a -kde-support package
[11:48] <asac> gnomefreak: thats the idea ... yes
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i will test granparadiso sometime today in kde
[11:49] <asac> but there is noone with a clue ;)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> its not running in kde
[11:49] <asac> gnomefreak: shouldn't be much different in terms of kde integration
[11:50] <gnomefreak> asac: Admiral_Chicago wont run in kde :(
[11:50] <asac> I can imagine that Admiral_Chicago will not run in kde :) ... after all he is not binary ;)
[11:51] <asac> so you say that firefox-trunk won't run at all?
[11:51] <asac> even if started from command line?
[11:53] <hjmf> asac: Admiral_Chicago can be what he might want to be (even binary) :-P
[11:53] <asac> yeah ;)
[11:53] <hjmf> morning guys
[11:53] <asac> hjmf: morning
[11:53] <asac> though its almost lunch here ;)
[11:53] <asac> ... but thats when i start on Wed :)
[11:53] <hjmf> asac: hehehe
[11:54] <asac> so why are bug states still the same?=
[11:54] <asac> have they reverted?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> asac: it runs from CLI in kde but not menu or launcher
[11:54] <gnomefreak> runs fine in gnome any way it starts
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: so i guess there isn't a launcher in kde?
[11:54] <hjmf> asac: I've played a bit with mozilla-mplayer plugin, here is the debdiff  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26387/
[11:54] <gnomefreak> asac: he added it to kicker and command is firefox-trunk %u
[11:55] <asac> as long as we don't have a kdefreak in our team, gnome is more important by definition :)
[11:55] <asac> hjmf: let me see
[11:55] <gnomefreak> agreed :)
[11:55] <hjmf> e.g: do I need to edit the changelog file?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> but i will do some testing sometime today while im waiting for apt fix
[11:55] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:56] <asac> hjmf: yes ... a changelog entry is good ... maybe a bit more explicit, but its definitly needed to request sponsored upload
[11:56] <hjmf> asac: is that a merge?
[11:56] <hjmf> or a sync, or nothing of the above?
[11:56] <asac> hjmf: kind of ... a merge is always retroactive ... this is a *new* development
[11:56] <asac> that people later have to keep when doing merges
[11:57] <hjmf> ah
[11:57] <asac> so ... its packaging improvemenent ... maybe call it wishlist bug fix
[11:57] <asac> :)
[11:57] <asac> hjmf: you should refer in the changelog to the spec
[11:57] <hjmf> asac: ok
[11:57] <hjmf> asac: I've just append the Xb-NSPlugin-XXX to the control file, is that right? or should be idented as the Description?
[11:57] <asac> hjmf: Xb-... have to be in the binary package section
[11:57] <asac> where did you add it?
[11:58] <asac> (e.g. in the binary package section of the plugin package)
[11:58] <hjmf> asac: just at the bottom: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26374/
[11:58] <asac> yes ... should be the right place ... i would add it before Description though
[11:58] <hjmf> ok fixing it
[11:59] <asac> don't think it matters ... you can test if it works:
[11:59] <asac> install the plugin and see if apt-cache show displays those headers
[11:59] <hjmf> ok I'll test it
[11:59] <hjmf> last question, when I've built the source package for the debdiff I got an error about my gpg key
[12:00] <hjmf> should I add my email in control?
[12:00] <hjmf> or doesn't matter
[12:00] <asac> hjmf: no ... it should ask for the key of the email in changelog
[12:01] <hjmf> hmm
[12:01] <asac> if you want to sponsor (e.g. its not your email that is last) ... you can add -kKEYID to dpkg-buildpackage
[12:01] <asac> hjmf: your gpg key needs your email in the UID field
[12:01] <asac> e.g.
[12:01] <asac> asac@hector:~$ gpg --list-keys asac
[12:01] <asac> pub   1024D/A824B93F 2003-08-15
[12:01] <asac> uid                  Alexander Sack <asac@debian.org>
[12:01] <asac> uid                  Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>
[12:01] <asac> uid                  Alexander Sack <alex@jwsdot.com>
[12:01] <asac> uid                  Alexander Sack <asac@ubuntu.com>
[12:01] <asac> sub   4096R/9580ABA9 2006-11-15 [expires: 2007-07-13] 
[12:02] <asac> sub   4096R/140C6664 2006-11-23 [expires: 2008-05-16] 
[12:02] <asac> hjmf: anyway ... since you don't upload to a queue ... you don't need to sign for now :)
[12:02] <hjmf> I ran debuild -S
[12:02] <asac> what are you trying to build (sorry i rarely use debuild)
[12:02] <asac> ?
[12:02] <asac> binary or source package?
[12:03] <hjmf> just the source package to get the dsc file for debdiff
[12:04] <hjmf> don't worry I'll look in the man page
[12:05] <asac> i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to get both: source + binary
[12:05] <asac> or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S to get only source
[12:05] <asac> or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b to get only binary
[12:06] <asac> but then ... i am an old guy ... and maybe debuild is really better ;)
[12:06] <hjmf> asac: OK I'll try that (I'm open to changes as this is my first time)
[12:06] <hjmf> :-P
[12:06] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxDistroAddonSpec ...
[12:07] <asac> look i started the headers with XB-
[12:07] <asac> maybe thats the right way ... and not Xb- ... must be some reason i did that in the spec
[12:07] <asac> i am soure there was a wiki page about custom dpkg headers
[12:07] <asac> sure
[12:08] <asac> but i can't find it atm
[12:09] <hjmf> ok I'll change to XB
[12:09] <asac> yes i think so ... at least http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy ... uses XS- ... and XB-
[12:09] <hjmf> ah OK
[12:10] <asac> hjmf: ok ... lets s/NSPlugin/NP/ and s/Xb/XB/ ... thne
[12:10] <asac> all looks good
[12:11] <asac> though i think that we can drop like s/[{}] //
[12:11] <asac> in the app-id field
[12:12] <hjmf> so XB-NP-MimeType: ....
[12:12] <hjmf> right?
[12:12] <asac> i think so yes :)
[12:13] <asac> oh use NPP ... thats how the client API is called for NP host
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: where do i find kmenueditor?
[12:15] <hjmf> ... fixing
[12:16] <gnomefreak> found it
[12:16] <hjmf> asac: OK http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26395/
[12:17] <hjmf> asac: check the changelog entry
[12:17] <hjmf> is it enough clear?
[12:17] <hjmf> btw I'm getting these warnings:
[12:18] <hjmf> dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[12:18] <hjmf> dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field
[12:18] <hjmf> the firs one is OK,
[12:18] <hjmf> but the second one?
[12:24] <asac> hjmf: oh ... was mplayer in sync?
[12:24] <asac> e.g. didn't have a ubuntu version?
[12:24] <asac> ah ... its ok
[12:24] <hjmf> asac: according the changelog there is  mplayerplug-in (3.31+main-1ubuntu1) feisty; urgency=low
[12:25] <asac> did you change maintainer or something?
[12:25] <hjmf> that's why I put 3.31+main-1ubuntu2
[12:25] <hjmf> asac: no, I just added the changelog
[12:25] <asac> yes ... thats ok
[12:25] <hjmf> at debian/control I just add our tags
[12:25] <asac> then its fine ... what is in maintainer field?
[12:25] <hjmf> Maintainer: Ari Pollak <ari@debian.org>
[12:26] <asac> no XSBC?
[12:26] <asac> interesting
[12:26] <hjmf> no
[12:27] <asac> who did last upload?
[12:27] <asac> in changelog?
[12:27] <hjmf> ... looking
[12:28] <hjmf> asac: Adrien Cunin <adri2000@gmail.com>  Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:09:42 +0100
[12:28] <asac> ok ... so mplayer is from multiverse or from universe?
[12:30] <hjmf> asac: multiverse
[12:30] <asac> i asked ari (waiting for reply) ... i guess we will have to move him to XSBC-Original-Maintainer field and add MOTU or something to maintainer
[12:31] <hjmf> asac: ok I'll wait before creating the bug report then
[12:31] <hjmf> asac: ah, the application ids I add where just firefox and seamonkey. I thought that that was enough
[12:32] <hjmf> s/where/were
[12:32] <asac> hjmf: yes i think its enough ... for now. haven't received an embedded movie in mail so far ... so i have no idea if it would even work in tbird ;)
[12:32] <asac> but probably it might work :)
[12:32] <hjmf> yeah :-)
[12:33] <asac> or html mail with embedded movie (with external URL) ?
[12:33] <hjmf> omg where are the old text email times !!!
[12:33] <asac> hehe yes ... which is why i have no idea :)
[12:33] <hjmf> :)
[12:34] <hjmf> I don't like html formated emails even
[12:35] <asac> yeah ... i use mutt ... so :)
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thats odd my keys arent working on laptop :(
[12:36] <hjmf> not that far, I used to use it, but now I use evolution but for editing I use vi
[12:36] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... unlikely, but possible :)
[12:36] <asac> evo + vi ? interesting
[12:36] <gnomefreak> the p key and the / keys for sure are nt working
[12:37] <asac> are ... those keys :) ... i thought about gpg keys
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you have some wierd language setting on your keyboard?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> hmmmm i will look when it boots
[12:43] <bluekuja> heya asac
[12:43] <bluekuja> :)
[12:43] <asac> hi
[12:43] <bluekuja> how it's going?
[12:44] <asac> better than a few hours ago :)
[12:44] <bluekuja> :D
[12:44] <bluekuja> 20 mins and I have to go to work again
[12:44] <bluekuja> :/
[12:44] <asac> bluekuja: what are you working?
[12:45] <ubuntu_laptop> a33 2eys w5th 06re than 6ne char 5ts 4s5ng the a3ternate char n6t what 5t sh643d be
[12:45] <bluekuja> asac: summer work
[12:46] <bluekuja> asac: I do it for one month only
[12:46] <bluekuja> after finishing school
[12:46] <asac> k
[12:47] <gnomefreak> that should read all keys with more than one char its using the alternate char not what it should use
[12:47] <bluekuja> asac: later we will talk about packages
[12:47] <bluekuja> ;)
[12:47] <asac> gnomefreak: you have a bad keyboard setting
[12:48] <gnomefreak> thats not good :(
[12:49] <asac> somehow debconf video streams are down :/
[12:51] <bluekuja> asac: where do you get them?
[12:51] <asac> i don't ...  i looked that them sonday monday night where nothing was going on ... now i wanted to take a look and they are gone
[12:52] <bluekuja> :D
[12:52] <asac> http://streams.video.debconf.org:8000/
[12:52] <asac> that was the place
[12:52] <asac> but there is nothing in "icecast"
[12:52] <asac> at least i don't see them ;)
[12:53] <bluekuja> yeah
[12:53] <asac> maybe you can see non-live in the archives: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2007/debconf7/
[12:53] <bluekuja> can't see them too
[12:53] <bluekuja> cool1
[12:53] <bluekuja> !
[12:54] <ubuntu_laptop> ******
[12:54] <ubuntu_laptop> n6 34c2
[12:56] <bluekuja> cya later
[12:56] <bluekuja> good work to everyone
[12:56] <bluekuja> :)
[12:56] <gnomefreak> maybe something got messed up when i used keyboard with it
[12:57] <asac> 3Dcya
[12:57] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: have fin
[12:57] <bluekuja> thanks
[12:57] <gnomefreak> fun
[12:57] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i guess im getting a keyboard for it
[12:58] <asac> yeah
[01:02] <gnomefreak> bbs
[01:25] <asac> gnomefreak ... do you still have a bzr package in your gutsy apt-cache?
[01:25] <asac> some 0.16something version
[02:08] <asac> gnomefreak: does flashplugin-nonfree work for you in chroot?
[03:31] <hjmf> asac: this is how apt-cache shows the tags http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26423/
[03:32] <hjmf> asac: notice that doesn't mind if the tag is XB-NPP or Xb-Npp as per:
[03:32] <hjmf> dpkg-genchanges: warning: unknown information field `Xb-Npp-Mimetype' in input data in package's section of control info file
[03:32] <hjmf> It takes it as Xb-Npp-xxxx
[03:32] <hjmf> I'll still be around for some minutes
[03:39] <gnomefreak> bzr package?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> ah no i dont
[03:39] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^ is .17 borked?
[03:40] <asac> hjmf: looks good
[03:40] <gnomefreak> asac: and what chroot are we talking about?
[03:40] <asac> hjmf: can you replace s/[{}] //g ?
[03:41] <asac> gnomefreak: your gutsy chroot :)
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ill check
[03:41] <asac> 0.17 builddeb has not yet been updated ... so i cannot build as easy as i would like :)
[03:41] <hjmf> asac: in the app ids, yes
[03:42] <gnomefreak> asac: ah yes we bzr upgrade removed bzr-something maybe a week or so ago
[03:42] <asac> gnomefreak: right
 i asked ari (waiting for reply) ... i guess we will have to move him to XSBC-Original-Maintainer field and add MOTU or something to maintainer
[03:42] <hjmf> asac: I'm waiting for that
[03:42] <asac> me too
[03:42] <asac> :)
[03:42] <hjmf> asac: meanwhile If have time I'll do other plugins
[03:43] <gnomefreak> oh i should have bzr .16 in chroot :)
[03:43] <hjmf> asac: yeah! its that I'm slow typing :)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> want me to grab the deb for you and upload it somewhere (if i can)
[03:44] <asac> gnomefreak: no ... just want to know if it works for you ... later would be great to test
[03:46] <gnomefreak> here we go again
[03:47] <gnomefreak> someone without a clue is triaging ffox bugs
[03:49] <asac> how is that news :)
[03:49] <asac> but i think it should be safe ... i still read all bugmail
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lol he reported it and marked it upstream debian
[03:50] <asac> oh ... i try to at least ;)
[03:50] <gnomefreak> but he didnt mean to i think
[03:50] <asac> yeah
[03:50] <gnomefreak> i just assigned it to team
[03:54] <gnomefreak> flash works fine in gutsy chroot in firefox
[03:54] <asac> hjmf: maybe bug 85238
[03:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 85238 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed -- maybe rel. realplayer (dup-of: 76608)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85238
[03:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 76608 in firefox "MASTER [@g_timeout_dispatch]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76608
[03:55] <asac> shows that the master is realplayer related?
[03:56] <asac> there is a testcase attached to bug 106199
[03:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106199 in firefox "[feisty]  50% of cpu when a page is waiting to load" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106199
[03:59] <asac> i added the testcase to summary ... maybe someone can be "tester" :)
[03:59] <hjmf> asac: maybe its fixed somehow now (bug 76608) since we dont have dups since #94834 (Mar 22)
[03:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 76608 in firefox "MASTER [@g_timeout_dispatch]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76608
[04:00] <hjmf> I'll test that test case
[04:01] <hjmf> hjmf     13572  7.2  3.1 108144 33112 pts/4    Sl+  16:01   0:01 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin file:///tmp/test.html -a firefox
[04:02] <hjmf> asac: nothing special ^^
[04:02] <hjmf> even if I write through the fifo
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ill be working on -trunk+kdemenu to see what issue is for the most part (adept and debtags are still on to do list)
[04:08] <gnomefreak> lol @ libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5
[04:08] <gnomefreak> !info libqt3-mt feisty
[04:08] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 3221 kB, installed size 8916 kB
[04:11] <asac> hjmf: interesting
[04:11] <asac> gnomefreak: do you still have the "slow" machine at hand?
[04:11] <asac> to test the CPU bug
[04:11] <asac> Bug 16465
[04:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 16465 in firefox "Firefox eats up all the CPU with certain pages" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/16465
[04:11] <asac> is another
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i have a slow pc at hand
[04:11] <asac> maybe we should merge them all
[04:13] <asac> hjmf: what frequency of reports did we have before? are they from feisty only (for which there is no auto-submission anymore)?
[04:13] <hjmf> asac: looking...
[04:13] <gnomefreak> 2.7
[04:14] <asac> maybe one dupe every 2 weeks or so
[04:14] <gnomefreak> 2.7% is about normal or better than normal opening a page
[04:14] <asac> hmmm and most are edgy crashes from what i see
[04:14] <asac> gnomefreak: 2.7 ? ... but is there change in cpu usage if you stop ffox?
[04:14] <asac> i mean ... stop the load
[04:15] <gnomefreak> that is top CPU% while opening i assume since he put it in bug
[04:15] <asac> or is 2.7 baseline for ffox on that machine in any case
[04:15] <asac> gnomefreak: what is average
[04:15] <asac> ... btw, the opening should not stop
[04:15] <asac> automatically
[04:16] <gnomefreak> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5352 root 19 0 204m 26m 4748 R 85.2 2.7 2:57.95 Xorg 7240 berti 16 0 254m 49m 25m S 2.7 4.9 0:02.95 firefox-bin 5765 berti 15 0 142m 40m 20m S 2.0 4.0 0:59.21 konqueror
[04:17] <gnomefreak> average IMHO is around 20-30% as we have seen in past
[04:17] <asac> 20%?
[04:17] <asac> how can it peak at 2.7 then?
[04:18] <asac> sounds not consitent ;)
[04:18] <hjmf> asac:  89601 90037 94834 are feisty (3/15)
[04:18] <ubuntu_laptop> !16465
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 16465 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <ubuntu_laptop> asac: did you read the bug? they posted their op outputs
[04:18] <ubuntu_laptop> top
[04:18] <hjmf> 3/16; feisty/edgy
[04:18] <ubuntu_laptop> my t key is borked :(
[04:18] <hjmf> *feisty/total
[04:18] <hjmf> damn I'm sleepy
[04:19] <ubuntu_laptop> bug 16465
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 16465 in firefox "Firefox eats up all the CPU with certain pages" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/16465
[04:19] <gnomefreak> most of them stated this problem is no longer present but looking into it
[04:20] <gnomefreak> 68.2%
[04:20] <gnomefreak> 88
[04:21] <gnomefreak> max CPU is 89.7
[04:21] <gnomefreak> thats way too high
[04:21] <gnomefreak> http://www.vu.lt/ivykiai_old/  is the link
[04:21] <asac> gnomefreak: what are you trying?
[04:21] <asac> k
[04:22] <gnomefreak> open link read CPU in top
[04:22] <asac> gnomefreak: in gutsy or where do you test?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> 90.3
[04:22] <gnomefreak> thats feisty on a P2 300mhz around 300mb ram
[04:23] <gnomefreak> its frigging anamated
[04:23] <gnomefreak> animated
[04:23] <gnomefreak> open page look on left the scroll stuff
[04:24] <gnomefreak> 97.2 in gutsy on a p4 256mb ram
[04:24] <asac> yeah i think its animation
[04:24] <gnomefreak> i would have to say its site
[04:24] <asac> is konqueror better for you?
[04:24] <asac> can you try?
[04:24] <hjmf> asac: gnomefreak if you want high cpu usage go to http://www.chutneymary.com/critics.htm  and wait 30 seconds
[04:24] <gnomefreak> dont know
[04:24] <hjmf> from bug 113654
[04:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113654 in firefox "http://www.chutneymary.com/critics.htm causes unresponsiveness in firefox, cpu usage goes to 100 percent" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113654
[04:24] <gnomefreak> hjmf: dont want high
[04:24] <asac> we should compare to konqueror
[04:24] <asac> otherwise we have no valid benchmark
[04:24] <asac> and just saying this feels too much is not proper imo
[04:25] <gnomefreak> we have no valid benchmark anyway as konq uses khtml or something like that (the rendering engine)
[04:25] <gnomefreak> trying
[04:26] <gnomefreak> much lower than ff
[04:26] <gnomefreak> highest it got was ~20%
[04:27] <gnomefreak> its a gecko issue im assuming sinces its about rendering and its marked upstream
[04:30] <asac> gnomefreak: can you try paradise or trunk?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> only on p4 pc
[04:30] <asac> there should be a lot of improvement i gues
[04:30] <asac> s
[04:30] <asac> gnomefreak: not on slow one?
[04:30] <asac> gnomefreak: why can't you install?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> asac: im installing it on slow one atm with kubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <gnomefreak> its gonna be a couple of hours
[04:31] <asac> gnomefreak: oh ... why not just firefox-trunk :)
[04:31] <asac> to give it a quick test
[04:31] <gnomefreak> asac: to fix the bug Admiral_Chicago found?
[04:32] <asac> no ... to see if the CPU performance has improved (which it should)
[04:32] <gnomefreak> its about half of what other ff was doing
[04:32] <gnomefreak> highest it got here was 56%
[04:33] <gnomefreak> but leveled out around 30-40
[04:33] <gnomefreak> 38.8%
[04:33] <gnomefreak> thats granparadiso in gutsy
[04:34] <gnomefreak> about 1hour 20 minutes left than i can test
[04:34] <gnomefreak> still seems kind of high but fifrefox has been that way for years afaik
[04:34] <asac> 38.8% on slow machine?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> asac: no
[04:34] <gnomefreak> cant test ther eyet
[04:37] <asac> k got to get my act together and setup db
[04:37] <gnomefreak> what do you know of deluge?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: asac ^^^ they are complaining libboost is 1.33.1 and not sure if it will work on gutsy
[04:39] <asac> who is they?
[04:39] <asac> deluge folks?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> shrish but i think i found out
[04:40] <asac> how can they complain at all if they are still in state 'not sure' :-P
[04:41] <gnomefreak> it one of those people htat are clueless
[04:41] <gnomefreak> they use gutsy but dont know wtf apt-cache is
[04:47] <asac> yeah
[04:47] <asac> i found that in forum people even test gnash in feisty though its posted in gutsy dev link section
[04:48] <asac> ... which is why we now have a feisty backport :)
[04:48] <gnomefreak> they always want newest and it makes me sick that they dont know the first thing about an app
[04:49] <gnomefreak> asac: we would have to backport EVERYTHING to make people happy, at that point what is the sense in having a new version of ubuntu
[04:49] <hjmf> asac: this one is for helix player (there is no ubuntu package, just debian version) ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26427/
[04:50] <gnomefreak> we have helix in repos
[04:50] <hjmf> the plugin is named mozilla-helix-player
[04:50] <gnomefreak> !info mozilla-helix-player
[04:50] <ubotu> mozilla-helix-player: the helix audio and video player (browser plugin). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (feisty), package size 47 kB, installed size 148 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)
[04:51] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I mean that it has not ubuntu suffix
[04:52] <hjmf> that plugin just seems to do audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin
[04:52] <gnomefreak> it is a replacemtn for realplayer (they conflict with eachother)
[04:52] <hjmf> though the description says it does video too (but maybe that's for the helix-player app, not for the plugin)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> it is the player itself that does video not the plugin iirc
[04:54] <hjmf> yes, but in about:plugins  that is the only mime-type it says it supports
[04:54] <hjmf> the player plays many formats
[04:56] <asac> hjmf: what is helix player?
[04:56] <asac> how do you know that it plays many formats?
[04:57] <hjmf> because I've read some of the specs in the source code, it compiles either a player named helix player and a plugin for firefox
[04:58] <hjmf> but about:plugins says it does just realaudio
[04:58] <hjmf> I'm uninstalling all the plugins and leaving that one alone to see how good it is
[05:01] <gnomefreak> its garbage
[05:02] <asac> hjmf: i think about:plugins is authoritative
[05:02] <asac> maybe its just the plugin layer that doesn't add all mime-types that are supported by standalone though
[05:03] <hjmf> for sure it doesnt play realplayer videos, so I guess that it is true that only does audio
[05:03] <asac> if you find that standalong plays more file types than plugin we can try to extend plugin
[05:04] <gnomefreak> afair stand alone helix-player does play audio and video but i stopped using it due it being a worthless POS
[05:05] <hjmf> yea, this doesn't look the best player I've ever seen
[05:06] <hjmf> the player supports all these mimes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26431/
[05:06] <hjmf> but not the plugin
[05:08] <asac> hjmf: so you can see ogg video?
[05:08] <asac> maybe plugin is just audio?
[05:10] <hjmf> so far I cannot see or hear anything through that plugin :(
[05:11] <hjmf> rhapsody site says that I'm outside of USA so I cannot hear the songs :/
[05:11] <hjmf> do you know any other realplayer site with sound
[05:11] <gnomefreak> cnn.com?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> cant remember if flash or RP
[05:16] <hjmf> no, it does nothing where ever I try
[05:17] <hjmf> reinstalling plugins-that-do-something
[05:19] <hjmf> maybe we should discard that plugin for a while since it seems useless, it does nothing, and it doesnt launch the player
[05:20] <asac> wierd ... maybe ask debian maintainer for a testcase
[05:20] <asac> i mean he appears to care enough to maintain that ... so he has probably use for it .)
[05:22] <hjmf> is Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org>
[05:23] <hjmf> I'll look at the helix project page to see what is that plugin good for
[05:24] <asac> yeah :)
[05:42] <hjmf> http://www.nasa.gov/ram/122212main_main_portal_cc.ram lauches the helix player
[05:43] <hjmf> but doesn't play as it claims that player doesn't have the capabilities to play back that content
[05:43] <asac> video?
[05:43] <hjmf> yes
[05:44] <asac> so this package doesn't work :)
[05:44] <asac> move on
[05:44] <asac> ;)
[05:44] <asac> we do not want to inject a package to a suggestion list that users are presented if they need a certain mimetype
[05:44] <asac> so that package doesn't need apt headers
[05:46] <hjmf> ok
[05:47] <hjmf> ... removing it :D!!! I'm happy to get rid of it !!!
[05:49] <hjmf> I'm really off now, probably until night
[05:49] <hjmf> cy
[05:49] <hjmf> cu
[05:50] <hjmf> btw bug 121251
[05:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121251 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121251
[05:50] <hjmf> another useless report
[05:50] <hjmf> really off now!
[05:51] <hjmf> cu
[06:15] <asac> hjmf: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/npp_cache_dump.py
[06:15] <asac> has to be improved, but still :)
[06:17] <asac> hjmf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/ <- same on pastebin
[06:28] <asac> break
[06:41] <asac> somehow all ubuntu ml mail going to inbox is getting a pita
[06:42] <bluekuja> heyaaaa!
[06:42] <bluekuja> :)
[06:42] <bluekuja> asac: what happened?
[06:52] <asac> bluekuja: nothing :)
[06:52] <bluekuja> oh ok :)
[06:52] <bluekuja> just went hom
[06:52] <bluekuja> *home
[06:52] <bluekuja> day seems better
[06:52] <bluekuja> when finishing work
[06:52] <bluekuja> :)
[07:20] <asac> damn ... some good friends just dropped by
[07:20] <bluekuja> :D
[07:20] <asac> and interrupted my fluent creative workflow ;)
[07:20] <asac> bluekuja: i am currently going through bittorrent bugs
[07:20] <asac> are all dealt with?
[07:21] <bluekuja> asac; I've worked on gnome-bt ones
[07:21] <bluekuja> you should check other apps
[07:22] <bluekuja> and let me know
[07:22] <bluekuja> if you find something
[07:22] <bluekuja> to get fixed
[07:24] <asac> actually just saw all that bug mail coming in ... so i wondered
[07:30] <asac> auto dupe detection appears to be live ??
[07:30] <bluekuja> mmmm...
[07:30] <bluekuja> dont know
[07:31] <bluekuja> where did you find it?
[07:33] <asac> hjmf: you already saw some misbehaved auto dupes for firefox?
[07:33] <asac> i saw that gnash gets auto-dupe detection
[07:33] <asac> dunno if its in place for other packages as well
[07:39] <AlexLatchford> asac: just realised -dom-inspector is b0rked in the .mt Firefox
[07:40] <AlexLatchford> its installed but not showing..
[07:40] <asac> AlexLatchford: only mt?
[07:40] <asac> feisty?
[07:40] <AlexLatchford> presume so
[07:40] <AlexLatchford> yes.. I am on .mt and its not showing in Add-Ons
[07:40] <asac> no idea ... which version is that?
[07:40] <AlexLatchford> or in the menus
[07:41] <asac> gnomefreak: any idea how we can make mozilla-bugs a bug contact of thunderbird package?
[07:41] <asac> i only can subscribe mozillateam
[07:41] <asac> but that is not what we want
[07:41] <asac> maybe i need more permissions on mozilla-bugs?
[07:42] <AlexLatchford> you need to be the driver of Thunderbird to do that
[07:42] <asac> gnomefreak: you are admin of mozilla-bugs ... maybe you can subscribe that to thunderbird package?
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> asac: no wait.. I am on the normal Ubuntu build..
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> and its b0rked
[07:45] <asac> feisty?
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> yes
[07:45] <asac> for me it works like a charme
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> hmm
[07:45] <asac> what is in /usr/lib/firefox/extensions/
[07:45] <asac> ?
[07:45] <asac> is there a inspector@mozilla.org directory?
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> yes
[07:45] <AlexLatchford> but it has nothing in it..
[07:46] <AlexLatchford> strange
[07:46] <asac> yeah maybe you removed it manually once
[07:46] <asac> or the mt package did this to you ;)
[07:46] <asac> just reinstall
[07:46] <AlexLatchford> hmm.. okay
[07:46] <asac> if it you were sure that it happened without mt and manual interaction then it would be severe
[07:47] <asac> but i assume you have no idea how you can get to that state ;) ... so
[07:47] <asac> can't do a thing i guess
[07:47] <AlexLatchford> yes.. its working now..
[07:47] <AlexLatchford> grr
[07:48] <AlexLatchford> back to Physics revision I guess.. last exam tomorrow..
[07:48] <asac> good luck
[07:49] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe i have to be a direct member?
[07:50] <asac> hmmm i can make MOTU bug contact as welll ... and i am only indirect member in lp for that team
[07:50] <asac> ... no idea
[09:08] <asac> Admiral_Chicago_: so are you ready to go?
[10:37] <asac> Admiral_Chicago_: nspluginwrapper ist uploaded
[10:37] <asac> !gutsy nspluginwrapper
[10:37] <asac> !package nspluginwrapper
[10:37] <asac> !dpkg
[10:37] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:37] <asac> !dpkg sdf
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg sdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <hjmf> asac: I've done a quick look to your script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26451/
[10:39] <hjmf> It works here
[10:40] <hjmf> but please instead of print "insert into package (name, mime, app-id, architecture)", "VALUES ('" + sec['Npp-Name']  + "', '" + sec['Npp-MimeType']  + "', '" + sec['Npp-Applications']  + "', '" + sec['Architecture']  + "', 'feisty');"
[10:40] <hjmf> just do:
[10:40] <hjmf> print """insert into package (name, mime, app-id, architecture) VALUES ('%(Npp-Name)s', '%(Npp-MimeType)s', '%(Npp-Applications)s', '%(Architecture)s', 'feisty');""" % sec
[10:40] <hjmf> since you are taken the vars from a dict :)
[10:41] <hjmf> Also I suggest you to send the warnings to stderr:
[10:41] <hjmf> e.g:
[10:41] <hjmf> print >> sys.stderr,  "WARNING: Candidate is None (%s)" % pkg.name
[10:42] <asac> hjmf: yeah warnings are removed
[10:42] <asac> hjmf: actually i have a better script now
[10:42] <asac> its no in my ~asac folder
[10:43] <hjmf> ah ok :)
[10:43] <asac> however i am somehow unhappy
[10:43] <hjmf> why?
[10:43] <asac> because i cannot introspect normal packages files
[10:43] <asac> so i cannot look into packages files from other archs et al
[10:43] <asac> i tried to create cache from Packages file
[10:44] <asac> but then i cannot access the records anymore ... which appears to be needed in order to get infos from our fields
[10:44] <hjmf> hmm, I don't know the apt and  the apt_pkg modules
[10:44] <asac> i currently use installedRecords
[10:44] <asac> ... other field is candidateRecords
[10:44] <hjmf> yes, that is in the script you pasted
[10:45] <asac> but for packages files ... i cannot get any other information than the fields in package.py
[10:45] <asac> i am not sure what records it uses ... to get description, name et al
[10:46] <hjmf> ah that deserves a deeper look into those modules
[10:49] <asac> yeah ... apt_pkg is a native module (apt_pkg.so) ... haven't found any api doc so far
[10:49] <asac> i guess its in there
[10:53] <hjmf> is not too helpful the pydoc of that package...
[10:57] <hjmf> asac: good night, for me is over
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago_: ok tested trunk build on kde 3.5.6 and it starts but it seems to take forever to start, im still not feeling well and shaking really bad so i might not be here
[11:16] <gnomefreak> asac: what did you need with mozilla-bugs
[11:24] <asac> make mozilla-bugs a bug contact of thunderbird source package
[11:24] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^
[11:25] <asac> i can make mozillateam a bug contact
[11:25] <asac> but not mozilla-bugs ... e.g. maybe i need to be a direct member of mozilla-bugs
[11:25] <asac> but maybe its just that you have subscribe mozilla-bugs
[11:26] <asac> like firefox source package has mozilla-bugs has mozilla-bugs as bug contact
[11:31] <asac> ok i am out for today ... will drop in in an hour before going to bed i guess
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: i will more than likely not be here when you get back i really feel like crap, but is this what you meant? https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: rock!
[12:00] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:01] <asac> what was it?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> what do you mean? just had to go into bugmail settings
[12:01] <asac> ah ... ok ... so it really depends on your status in group
[12:01] <asac> ok
[12:02] <asac> i didn't have a mozilla bugs option ... just mozillateam
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:02] <gnomefreak> are you member of mozilla-bugs?
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: indirect
[12:02] <asac> afaict
[12:02] <asac> ;)
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ah that is why
[12:02] <asac> but maybe not ... because i am indirect motu member as well ... but have the option to subscribe motu
[12:02] <asac> in bug settings
[12:03] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:03] <asac> do you see me in mozilla-bugs list?
[12:03] <asac> i think so
[12:03] <asac> wait
[12:03] <gnomefreak> didnt look hold on ill see
[12:03] <asac> You are an indirect member of this team:
[12:03] <asac> Alexander Sack  Mozilla Team  Mozilla Bugs
[12:03] <asac> so it works
[12:03] <asac> at least im indirect
[12:04] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm i dont see it
[12:04] <gnomefreak> yes mozilla-team is a member of the -bugs team
[12:04] <asac> yeah ... mozilla-bugs doesn't have its own emblem
[12:20] <asac> ok night