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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | ||
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teknoboi | hello everyone | 07:16 |
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teknoboi | i am new to xubuntu and i was wondering if i might be able to get some help | 07:16 |
maxamillion | !ask | teknoboi | 07:16 |
ubotu | teknoboi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 07:16 |
teknoboi | lol thanks | 07:17 |
teknoboi | well i guess im confused as to where to start for hardware....from there i can probably get it | 07:17 |
teknoboi | but...for example...i have a wireless networking card and im interested in installing it, but im completely lost as to how you install hardware | 07:17 |
teknoboi | i found the software install tool | 07:18 |
teknoboi | but its no help obviously | 07:18 |
maxamillion | !wifi | 07:20 |
ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 07:20 |
teknoboi | why thanks | 07:20 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: that link should give you more info about xubuntu/ubuntu wireless configuration then you probably ever wanted ... but its an awesome resource :) | 07:20 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: anytime | 07:20 |
teknoboi | clever using a script to answer questions...eliminating the hassle of having to type everything out :-P | 07:20 |
teknoboi | its been a long time since ive used irc | 07:21 |
teknoboi | this should be extremely useful...thanks again! | 07:22 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: yeah, ubotu is a good bot ... he stores info for us all (i use ubotu alot because my memory is horrible) | 07:22 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: anytime! drop by if you ever have any problems, we are happy to help | 07:22 |
maxamillion | !botsnack | 07:22 |
ubotu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 07:22 |
maxamillion | good bot | 07:22 |
maxamillion | :) | 07:22 |
teknoboi | thanks man | 07:23 |
teknoboi | ill probably be here a lot in the next few weeks | 07:23 |
teknoboi | im a tek saavy guy but not with linux | 07:23 |
teknoboi | its about time i venture into this area | 07:23 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: well we have plent of residential gurus and i'm sure someone would be able to help with almost any issue you bring to us :) | 07:24 |
teknoboi | kewl | 07:24 |
teknoboi | well i already have another one | 07:24 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:24 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: i have been running linux as my only operating system for about 7 and a half years now and i still learn new stuff everyday ... its extremely fun and a wealth of knowledge all at your finger tips | 07:24 |
maxamillion | fire away, i will do my best | 07:24 |
teknoboi | i dont see my net card reflected on that page....theres a model number thats close but isnt totall correct | 07:25 |
teknoboi | is it worth a shot to try out the drivers or no? | 07:26 |
teknoboi | <<< is scared to break xubuntu | 07:26 |
teknoboi | lo | 07:26 |
teknoboi | lol* | 07:26 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: i don't think the drivers would necessarily break xubuntu, might just clutter the hard drive :P | 07:26 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: what card do you have? ... i might be able to find a better resource specific to your card | 07:27 |
teknoboi | its a belkin F5D7000 ver 7000 | 07:27 |
maxamillion | ok, just a moment | 07:28 |
teknoboi | mmk | 07:28 |
teknoboi | i have off tomorrow so this is my project tonight along with a few beers | 07:28 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:28 |
maxamillion | nice | 07:29 |
maxamillion | i don't have off tomorrow, but i live for open source so this is where i spend alot of my time | 07:29 |
maxamillion | i actually hang here while at work ... just don't always get to pay as much attention to the channel | 07:29 |
teknoboi | lol that's awesome...i have a crappy job...i envy you | 07:29 |
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maxamillion | teknoboi: well i have good news and bad news .... | 07:33 |
teknoboi | lol sounds like my life | 07:33 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: the good news is i found a tutorial to tell you how to install the drivers, the bad news is that i have only found reports of it working for people, not that it actually "officially" wors | 07:33 |
maxamillion | works* | 07:34 |
teknoboi | well the bad news isnt as bad as the good news is good so i guess its worth a shot | 07:34 |
teknoboi | i do still have my windows drivers cd...will that do me any good? | 07:34 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: yes, actually ... in this instance it will because you are going to have to use the windows driver's firmware to tell the ndiswrapper how to communicate with your card | 07:35 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux <---that's the link, i hope it works out for you | 07:35 |
teknoboi | well i will give it a shot and letya know :-) | 07:35 |
teknoboi | brb | 07:35 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: the link isn't specifically for you card, but i found reports that it works for your card as well | 07:35 |
maxamillion | okies | 07:35 |
teknoboi | okay, im dumb...do i have to download the ndis wrapper or is it preinstalled | 07:37 |
teknoboi | :-S | 07:37 |
maxamillion | you should have to download it, but aptitude will pull it from the server and install for you | 07:38 |
maxamillion | or is the wifi the only net connection for that machine? | 07:38 |
teknoboi | im using it via wired connections right now | 07:39 |
maxamillion | ok, awesome | 07:39 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: the tutorial gives you the command needed to install it | 07:39 |
teknoboi | yeah except it gave me an error lol | 07:40 |
teknoboi | i suck :( | 07:40 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: gave you an error? | 07:41 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: what error? | 07:41 |
teknoboi | 1 sec | 07:41 |
teknoboi | richard@richard-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude -p install ndiswrapper-utils | 07:41 |
teknoboi | aptitude: invalid option -- p | 07:41 |
teknoboi | aptitude 0.4.4 | 07:41 |
teknoboi | Usage: aptitude [-S fname] [-u|-i] | 07:41 |
teknoboi | aptitude [options] <action> ... | 07:41 |
teknoboi | Actions (if none is specified, aptitude will enter interactive mode): | 07:41 |
teknoboi | and then the list of actions | 07:42 |
teknoboi | i got it | 07:42 |
teknoboi | i eliminated the -p | 07:42 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: the option is -P (linux, as well as other UNIXes are case sensitive) | 07:43 |
teknoboi | ooo i see | 07:43 |
teknoboi | thats different | 07:44 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:44 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: welcome to the world of real operating systems ;) | 07:44 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:45 |
teknoboi | do you think the xp drivers would be the best to use? | 07:45 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: yes, and you technically aren't going to use "the drivers" just a firmware file associated with them ... but it will be on the cd in a directory somewhere | 07:46 |
teknoboi | right | 07:46 |
teknoboi | i just have tons of *inf files | 07:46 |
teknoboi | each for different versions of windows | 07:46 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: ahhh | 07:47 |
teknoboi | but its not working its saying sudo command not found...i dont think the ndis installed | 07:48 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: is there one that doesn't have a windows version attached to it? ... maybe just like rt7000r7.inf (or similar, i totally just pulled that name from thin air) | 07:48 |
maxamillion | hmmmm | 07:49 |
teknoboi | its telling me no candidates found | 07:49 |
teknoboi | when i do the install command | 07:49 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: its because you aren't in the directory of the cd-rom drive in the terminal so the command doesn't know where the file is and thus "no candidate found" | 07:51 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: you browsing the files in thunar? | 07:51 |
teknoboi | yeah | 07:51 |
teknoboi | no wait | 07:51 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: right click in the folder (anywhere but on an icon) and then select "open terminal here" | 07:51 |
teknoboi | when i try to install the ndiswrapper it gives me the error | 07:52 |
maxamillion | oh | 07:52 |
teknoboi | from the root | 07:52 |
maxamillion | uhmm... just a moment | 07:52 |
teknoboi | okie dokie | 07:52 |
maxamillion | !info ndiswrapper-utils | 07:52 |
ubotu | Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 07:52 |
maxamillion | ? | 07:52 |
teknoboi | huh | 07:53 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:53 |
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maxamillion | ah! | 07:53 |
teknoboi | that was quick | 07:53 |
teknoboi | lol | 07:53 |
maxamillion | !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 | 07:53 |
ubotu | ndiswrapper-utils-1.9: Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 120 kB | 07:53 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: they changed the name of the package in feisty ... wonder why :/ | 07:53 |
teknoboi | so should i try that package name? ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ? | 07:54 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: yup | 07:54 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: that one should install without any problems | 07:54 |
teknoboi | mk brb | 07:55 |
teknoboi | ooo there we go | 07:55 |
teknoboi | and then i use that package name for all the commands right? | 07:55 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: very sorry but i have to go ... i will be back tomorrow though at 10am (its 1am my time right now) | 07:55 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: no, all the commands should be the same | 07:56 |
teknoboi | okay...im at 1 am as well | 07:56 |
teknoboi | okay | 07:56 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: just the install package got changed, the command will be the same though | 07:56 |
teknoboi | thanks for the help | 07:56 |
maxamillion | teknoboi: good luck! | 07:56 |
maxamillion | anytime :) | 07:56 |
teknoboi | ty | 07:56 |
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bobslaede | hello, i'm having problems with my keyboard layout! i usually use danish, but i also need us english, but i'm missing certain characters. I have never had this problem in gnome. | 09:07 |
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r0bert | hi thar | 09:17 |
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alnokta | xfmedia don't have FULLSCREEN? | 12:38 |
TheSheep | alnokta: xfmedia is no longer the default media player for xubuntu | 12:38 |
alnokta | TheSheep, gxine? | 12:39 |
TheSheep | yes | 12:39 |
alnokta | ah..but xfmedia is light ;) | 12:40 |
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VeritechFighter | I'm running a 64-bit ubuntu live cd, does that min, I can install 64-bit ubuntu? | 12:41 |
VeritechFighter | wats the diff bet 32bit ubuntu and 64bit? | 12:43 |
Pumpernickel | The AMD64 has been compiled to take advantage of the AMD64 arch whenever possible. | 12:44 |
Pumpernickel | If you're running it as a livecd, you'll be able to run it as an installed OS. | 12:44 |
Pumpernickel | *AMD64 release | 12:45 |
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xjkx | i ran cupsd, openned 127.0.0.1:631, added a printer, and it asks for user and password, on normal linux you put root as user and its password, xubuntu hasnt root password, and even if i try to make user usable, it still doesnt work | 01:00 |
R[a] ndom | hm dunno. you could try setting up the root account | 01:03 |
R[a] ndom | sudo passwd | 01:03 |
R[a] ndom | but theres probably a 'proper' way to do this :) | 01:03 |
xjkx | i have done that before | 01:04 |
xjkx | I can even log as root normally | 01:04 |
xjkx | but not in web based | 01:04 |
xjkx | you dont use any printer?? | 01:04 |
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R[a] ndom | Yeah I had mine set up | 01:05 |
R[a] ndom | don't remember what I did tho | 01:05 |
R[a] ndom | it hasn't had ink for a year now | 01:06 |
R[a] ndom | I print at school :P | 01:06 |
xjkx | :> i have to go see ya | 01:06 |
VeritechFighter | Pumpernickel, thanks! any easy to use cobol IDE for ubuntu? | 01:08 |
alnokta | Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0" is not a volume or drive. | 01:08 |
alnokta | Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0". | 01:08 |
alnokta | is that a bug? | 01:08 |
TheSheep | alnokta: yes | 01:09 |
alnokta | clicking eject works though | 01:10 |
TheSheep | Bug #94416 | 01:11 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 94416 in Ubuntu "failure to eject cdrom using button" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94416 | 01:11 |
TheSheep | alnokta: add a meetoo :) | 01:11 |
alnokta | cool :) | 01:12 |
VeritechFighter | !cobol | 01:13 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cobol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:13 |
VeritechFighter | !ubotu | 01:14 |
ubotu | I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 01:14 |
TheSheep | !msgthebot > VeritechFighter | 01:14 |
VeritechFighter | TheSheep, wat does dat do? | 01:15 |
VeritechFighter | oh | 01:15 |
VeritechFighter | sorry | 01:15 |
TheSheep | VeritechFighter: not a bug deal | 01:15 |
TheSheep | big | 01:16 |
Pumpernickel | VeritechFighter: Possibly Eclipse? http://www.eclipse.org/cobol/ | 01:26 |
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slow-motion | hallo | 03:05 |
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keck0f | hi. | 03:48 |
keck0f | how an i disallow when finisching a xfce-session to reboot/shutdown the machine? | 03:48 |
keck0f | i'd like to password-protect it or at least only allow it to a certein group (e.g. admin). could you help? | 03:48 |
keck0f | it's xfce 4.2 on xubuntu-6.06.1-server-amd64 | 03:48 |
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Pumpernickel | keck0f: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/ | 04:08 |
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ipx-laptop | jo de gr nog bra | 05:15 |
ipx-laptop | : P | 05:15 |
ipx-laptop | ^^ | 05:15 |
ipx-laptop | sry wrong :o | 05:15 |
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Musiq | Which program can I use as alternative for timidity? | 05:24 |
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cheeseboy | hi | 05:40 |
cheeseboy | my period key doesnt work | 05:40 |
cheeseboy | is there a way to have period be a different key? | 05:41 |
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asmith42a | How to send special commands (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-Del) to server with TightVNC? | 05:44 |
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teknoboi | hello folks | 05:58 |
teknoboi | oops brb | 05:59 |
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teknoboi | okay im back...maxamillion...you around? | 06:00 |
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harmattan | Hi everybody | 06:15 |
harmattan | I'm not a regular user of xfce, but I had an extrange issue with the xubuntu 6.06 live cd | 06:18 |
harmattan | I could't acces the terminal (xterm?) from the main's panel icon | 06:19 |
MagicFab | any error messages you can share ? | 06:22 |
TheSheep | Bug #81512 | 06:24 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 81512 in xfce4-terminal "Attempting to open terminal cause restart" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81512 | 06:24 |
harmattan | No, sorry. In fact a brief screenshot of the terminal appears for a while | 06:26 |
harmattan | but doesn't stay to be able to work on it | 06:26 |
harmattan | Maybe my copy of xubuntu cd is a bit old and with some bugs on it? | 06:26 |
harmattan | mmmh, the fail wasn't as described in the launchpad bug you pointed, ubotu, although I remember that fail from my attempts of installing Xfce in the BLAG distribution | 06:31 |
Jester45 | harmattan, are you tring to install or is it allready installed? | 06:31 |
harmattan | No, the brief screenshot of the terminal is a bug while using the live cd | 06:32 |
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Jester45 | o | 06:32 |
Jester45 | i dont know my ins and outs of the live cd, but you *might* beable to use a terminal via ctrl+alt+F2 and to get back do ctrl+alt+F7 (might be F1 to get back on the live cd) | 06:33 |
harmattan | In fact, what I did was to open Xterm. I think I used Alt+F2 to invoque the command box for it | 06:36 |
Jester45 | so the bug is only when lauchned from the menu? thats weird | 06:43 |
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harmattan | Yeah, I thought of the Ubuntu distros as very stable ones | 06:46 |
Jester45 | they have been stable for me | 06:47 |
Jester45 | i havent noticed any bugs, at least non that caused a problem or i can remeber | 06:48 |
harmattan | I don't mean Ubuntu is bad or something, I'm a regular user ;-) | 06:53 |
harmattan | Quite happy with it | 06:53 |
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Jester45 | maybe i should do some cleaning | 06:59 |
predaeus | Jester45, "sudo apt-get clean" for a starter :-D | 07:00 |
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FreeFull | I have a laptop and everytime I close the lid XScreensaver opens and it request my password to get back to desktop. What do I do so that it wont request my password? I can't find where to change the settings. | 07:02 |
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neo2dot0 | Hallo. I just installed xubuntu on my laptop. I had vectorlinux installed before, so my desktop looks strange, because the files are still in my ~. How can I get the default xfce desktop back I am supposed to have after a fresh install? | 07:21 |
neo2dot0 | I don't know which are the files that xfce uses for configuring the desktop | 07:21 |
TheSheep | neo2dot0: delete (or better rename) the .config, .local and .cache directories in your home | 07:28 |
neo2dot0 | yes, that looks nice. Thanks! | 07:31 |
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harmattan | Well guys, I have to go. Thanks ubotu and TheSheep for the answers about Launchpad. | 07:55 |
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Jester45 | hi somerville32 | 08:33 |
somerville32 | Hiya :) | 08:33 |
Jester45 | anyone here good at php? | 08:40 |
somerville32 | Meh | 08:40 |
Jester45 | im just wondering if you wanna make something for me, i want a list of files in a dirctory that have check boxes next to them to select the item. Then a button at the bottom/top to have it "backup" the files | 08:42 |
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kikr | hey how do I find out what version of Java i'm using? | 08:50 |
kikr | i'm getting an error from Azureus is not compatible with my versino of Java, yet I have everything updated | 08:51 |
gabkdlly | dpkg -l | grep java | 08:51 |
somerville32 | !galternatives | 08:51 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about galternatives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:51 |
somerville32 | !alternatives | 08:52 |
ubotu | To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal. | 08:52 |
somerville32 | sudo update-alternatives --update java | 08:52 |
Jester45 | kikr, java versions are seprate version so you dont just update from java 5 to 6 you must install 6 | 08:53 |
Jester45 | seprate packages* | 08:53 |
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kikr | is that easy to do? | 08:53 |
Jester45 | yes | 08:54 |
Jester45 | if you want the java6 jre simply run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" without the quotes | 08:54 |
kikr | with this remove java5? | 08:55 |
Jester45 | no to remove you run "sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre" | 08:56 |
kikr | should i do that after java6 is installed? | 08:56 |
kikr | or before | 08:57 |
Jester45 | before | 08:57 |
somerville32 | No need to | 08:59 |
Jester45 | but why have v5 when you have v6 | 09:00 |
kikr | i don't want java5 running when my new java6 is | 09:01 |
somerville32 | java5 won't be running, lol | 09:01 |
somerville32 | But I personally would keep 5 and 6 | 09:01 |
somerville32 | 6 is new and some stuff might not run on it | 09:01 |
kikr | k | 09:01 |
Jester45 | if it doesnt run on 6, for me i think it shouldnt be running at all | 09:02 |
kikr | wow | 09:03 |
kikr | I had Java 1.4.2 installed | 09:03 |
kikr | what's up with that | 09:04 |
kikr | I just installed xbuntu like a month ago | 09:04 |
kikr | Jester45, k java6 is installed now. do I have to do anything now? like run it | 09:07 |
Jester45 | shouldnt | 09:07 |
kikr | still getting the error from Azureus | 09:07 |
Jester45 | did you leave the other java? | 09:08 |
kikr | no, how do I do that | 09:08 |
kikr | sorry =\ | 09:08 |
Jester45 | i didnt leave mine | 09:08 |
Jester45 | .... | 09:08 |
kikr | oh I didn't uninstall java5 | 09:09 |
kikr | i just installed java6, but azureus is still reporting the same error | 09:09 |
Jester45 | ok, you have to tell wich java to use... but i dont know how | 09:09 |
kikr | thought so | 09:09 |
kikr | somerville32, any idea? | 09:09 |
TheSheep | update-alternatives | 09:09 |
somerville32 | Yes | 09:10 |
somerville32 | I already told you the answer when you first asked | 09:10 |
Jester45 | sudo update-alternatives --update java | 09:10 |
kikr | hmmm | 09:10 |
kikr | now I need to know the path to java6 | 09:11 |
somerville32 | Just do sudo update-alternatives --config java | 09:12 |
kikr | *+ 2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java | 09:13 |
kikr | that's what I had | 09:13 |
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kikr | thanks | 09:13 |
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Thorne | anyone here try to install xubuntu onto a gateway solo 1450? | 09:41 |
somerville32 | I haven't, sorry | 09:41 |
Thorne | keep getting what looks like a mount filesystem error when booting of the cd | 09:42 |
somerville32 | Do you think it would be possible for you to get the logs? | 09:43 |
Thorne | well im running the check cd to see if its the cd | 09:43 |
Thorne | then im going to try and boot it | 09:44 |
somerville32 | Ah. That might be it. | 09:44 |
Thorne | had the prob with kubuntu and ubuntu too | 09:44 |
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Thorne | hm well i think one of the problems is the display | 09:56 |
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Jester45 | /server irc.ef.net | 10:18 |
Jester45 | oops | 10:18 |
somerville32 | :O | 10:20 |
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musiq | I'm looking for a midi-alternative because timidity takes too much CPU? | 10:56 |
maxamillion | !midi | 10:59 |
ubotu | Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo | 10:59 |
maxamillion | musiq: i honestly have no clue ... i looked to the bot for advice ;) | 11:00 |
musiq | I've already tried everything on this site, but my pc isn't strong enough for timidity | 11:01 |
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musiq | (but midi worked with windows so i think it is also possible with linux) | 11:02 |
maxamillion | musiq: i'm sure it is ... i just honestly have no idea how to do it :( | 11:04 |
musiq | :p | 11:05 |
TheSheep | musiq: your sound card might support hardware synthesis | 11:07 |
musiq | euh? | 11:08 |
TheSheep | musiq: look for /dev/sound/sequencer | 11:09 |
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musiq | no such directory | 11:11 |
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Jester45 | TheSheep, would you want to look at more css for me? | 11:19 |
Jester45 | TheSheep, to compact it? | 11:20 |
TheSheep | Jester45: I'd rather had you call some frineds and make a css lesson for you online | 11:22 |
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Jester45 | how about a php lesson, im wanting to make a control panel like thing for vidd's hosting | 11:24 |
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somerville32 | Jester45: Wrong chatroom. | 11:29 |
Jester45 | k | 11:32 |
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