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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get
=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
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teknoboihello everyone07:16
teknoboii am new to xubuntu and i was wondering if i might be able to get some help07:16
maxamillion!ask | teknoboi07:16
ubotuteknoboi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:16
teknoboilol thanks07:17
teknoboiwell i guess im confused as to where to start for hardware....from there i can probably get it07:17
teknoboibut...for example...i have a wireless networking card and im interested in installing it, but im completely lost as to how you install hardware07:17
teknoboii found the software install tool07:18
teknoboibut its no help obviously07:18
maxamillion!wifi07:20
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:20
teknoboiwhy thanks07:20
maxamillionteknoboi: that link should give you more info about xubuntu/ubuntu wireless configuration then you probably ever wanted ... but its an awesome resource :)07:20
maxamillionteknoboi: anytime07:20
teknoboiclever using a script to answer questions...eliminating the hassle of having to type everything out :-P07:20
teknoboiits been a long time since ive used irc07:21
teknoboithis should be extremely useful...thanks again!07:22
maxamillionteknoboi: yeah, ubotu is a good bot ... he stores info for us all (i use ubotu alot because my memory is horrible)07:22
maxamillionteknoboi: anytime! drop by if you ever have any problems, we are happy to help07:22
maxamillion!botsnack07:22
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:22
maxamilliongood bot07:22
maxamillion:)07:22
teknoboithanks man07:23
teknoboiill probably be here a lot in the next few weeks07:23
teknoboiim a tek saavy guy but not with linux07:23
teknoboiits about time i venture into this area07:23
maxamillionteknoboi: well we have plent of residential gurus and i'm sure someone would be able to help with almost any issue you bring to us :)07:24
teknoboikewl07:24
teknoboiwell i already have another one07:24
teknoboilol07:24
maxamillionteknoboi: i have been running linux as my only operating system for about 7 and a half years now and i still learn new stuff everyday ... its extremely fun and a wealth of knowledge all at your finger tips07:24
maxamillionfire away, i will do my best07:24
teknoboii dont see my net card reflected on that page....theres a model number thats close but isnt totall correct07:25
teknoboiis it worth a shot to try out the drivers or no?07:26
teknoboi<<< is scared to break xubuntu07:26
teknoboilo07:26
teknoboilol*07:26
maxamillionteknoboi: i don't think the drivers would necessarily break xubuntu, might just clutter the hard drive :P07:26
maxamillionteknoboi: what card do you have? ... i might be able to find a better resource specific to your card07:27
teknoboiits a belkin F5D7000 ver 700007:27
maxamillionok, just a moment07:28
teknoboimmk07:28
teknoboii have off tomorrow so this is my project tonight along with a few beers07:28
teknoboilol07:28
maxamillionnice07:29
maxamillioni don't have off tomorrow, but i live for open source so this is where i spend alot of my time07:29
maxamillioni actually hang here while at work ... just don't always get to pay as much attention to the channel07:29
teknoboilol that's awesome...i have a crappy job...i envy you07:29
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maxamillionteknoboi: well i have good news and bad news ....07:33
teknoboilol sounds like my life07:33
maxamillionteknoboi: the good news is i found a tutorial to tell you how to install the drivers, the bad news is that i have only found reports of it working for people, not that it actually "officially" wors07:33
maxamillionworks*07:34
teknoboiwell the bad news isnt as bad as the good news is good so i guess its worth a shot07:34
teknoboii do still have my windows drivers cd...will that do me any good?07:34
maxamillionteknoboi: yes, actually ... in this instance it will because you are going to have to use the windows driver's firmware to tell the ndiswrapper how to communicate with your card07:35
maxamillionteknoboi: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux <---that's the link, i hope it works out for you07:35
teknoboiwell i will give it a shot and letya know :-)07:35
teknoboibrb07:35
maxamillionteknoboi: the link isn't specifically for you card, but i found reports that it works for your card as well07:35
maxamillionokies07:35
teknoboiokay, im dumb...do i have to download the ndis wrapper or is it preinstalled07:37
teknoboi:-S07:37
maxamillionyou should have to download it, but aptitude will pull it from the server and install for you07:38
maxamillionor is the wifi the only net connection for that machine?07:38
teknoboiim using it via wired connections right now07:39
maxamillionok, awesome07:39
maxamillionteknoboi: the tutorial gives you the command needed to install it07:39
teknoboiyeah except it gave me an error lol07:40
teknoboii suck :(07:40
maxamillionteknoboi: gave you an error?07:41
maxamillionteknoboi: what error?07:41
teknoboi1 sec07:41
teknoboirichard@richard-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude -p install  ndiswrapper-utils07:41
teknoboiaptitude: invalid option -- p07:41
teknoboiaptitude 0.4.407:41
teknoboiUsage: aptitude [-S fname]  [-u|-i] 07:41
teknoboi       aptitude [options]  <action> ...07:41
teknoboi  Actions (if none is specified, aptitude will enter interactive mode):07:41
teknoboiand then the list of actions07:42
teknoboii got it07:42
teknoboii eliminated the -p07:42
maxamillionteknoboi: the option is -P (linux, as well as other UNIXes are case sensitive)07:43
teknoboiooo i see07:43
teknoboithats different07:44
teknoboilol07:44
maxamillionteknoboi: welcome to the world of real operating systems ;)07:44
teknoboilol07:45
teknoboido you think the xp drivers would be the best to use?07:45
maxamillionteknoboi: yes, and you technically aren't going to use "the drivers" just a firmware file associated with them ... but it will be on the cd in a directory somewhere07:46
teknoboiright07:46
teknoboii just have tons of *inf files07:46
teknoboieach for different versions of windows07:46
maxamillionteknoboi: ahhh07:47
teknoboibut its not working its saying sudo command not found...i dont think the ndis installed07:48
maxamillionteknoboi: is there one that doesn't have a windows version attached to it? ... maybe just like rt7000r7.inf (or similar, i totally just pulled that name from thin air)07:48
maxamillionhmmmm07:49
teknoboiits telling me no candidates found07:49
teknoboiwhen i do the install command07:49
maxamillionteknoboi: its because you aren't in the directory of the cd-rom drive in the terminal so the command doesn't know where the file is and thus "no candidate found"07:51
maxamillionteknoboi: you browsing the files in thunar?07:51
teknoboiyeah07:51
teknoboino wait07:51
maxamillionteknoboi: right click in the folder (anywhere but on an icon) and then select "open terminal here"07:51
teknoboiwhen i try to install the ndiswrapper it gives me the error07:52
maxamillionoh07:52
teknoboifrom the root07:52
maxamillionuhmm... just a moment07:52
teknoboiokie dokie07:52
maxamillion!info ndiswrapper-utils07:52
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:52
maxamillion?07:52
teknoboihuh07:53
teknoboilol07:53
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maxamillionah!07:53
teknoboithat was quick07:53
teknoboilol07:53
maxamillion!info ndiswrapper-utils-1.907:53
ubotundiswrapper-utils-1.9: Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 120 kB07:53
maxamillionteknoboi: they changed the name of the package in feisty ... wonder why :/07:53
teknoboiso should i try that package name? ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ?07:54
maxamillionteknoboi: yup07:54
maxamillionteknoboi: that one should install without any problems07:54
teknoboimk brb07:55
teknoboiooo there we go07:55
teknoboiand then i use that package name for all the commands right?07:55
maxamillionteknoboi: very sorry but i have to go ... i will be back tomorrow though at 10am (its 1am my time right now)07:55
maxamillionteknoboi: no, all the commands should be the same07:56
teknoboiokay...im at 1 am as well07:56
teknoboiokay07:56
maxamillionteknoboi: just the install package got changed, the command will be the same though07:56
teknoboithanks for the help07:56
maxamillionteknoboi: good luck!07:56
maxamillionanytime :)07:56
teknoboity07:56
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bobslaedehello, i'm having problems with my keyboard layout! i usually use danish, but i also need us english, but i'm missing certain characters. I have never had this problem in gnome.09:07
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r0berthi thar09:17
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alnoktaxfmedia don't have FULLSCREEN?12:38
TheSheepalnokta: xfmedia is no longer the default media player for xubuntu12:38
alnoktaTheSheep, gxine?12:39
TheSheepyes12:39
alnoktaah..but xfmedia is light ;)12:40
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VeritechFighterI'm running  a 64-bit ubuntu live cd, does that min, I can install 64-bit ubuntu?12:41
VeritechFighterwats the diff bet 32bit ubuntu and 64bit?12:43
PumpernickelThe AMD64 has been compiled to take advantage of the AMD64 arch whenever possible.12:44
PumpernickelIf you're running it as a livecd, you'll be able to run it as an installed OS.12:44
Pumpernickel*AMD64 release12:45
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xjkxi ran cupsd, openned 127.0.0.1:631, added a printer, and it asks for user and password, on normal linux you put root as user and its password, xubuntu hasnt root password, and even if i try to make user usable, it still doesnt work01:00
R[a] ndomhm dunno. you could try setting up the root account01:03
R[a] ndomsudo passwd01:03
R[a] ndombut theres probably a 'proper' way to do this :)01:03
xjkxi have done that before01:04
xjkxI can even log as root normally01:04
xjkxbut not in web based01:04
xjkxyou dont use any printer??01:04
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R[a] ndomYeah I had mine set up01:05
R[a] ndomdon't remember what I did tho01:05
R[a] ndomit hasn't had ink for a year now01:06
R[a] ndomI print at school :P01:06
xjkx:> i have to go see ya01:06
VeritechFighterPumpernickel, thanks! any easy to use cobol IDE for ubuntu?01:08
alnoktaGiven device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0" is not a volume or drive.01:08
alnoktaFailed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0".01:08
alnoktais that a bug?01:08
TheSheepalnokta: yes01:09
alnoktaclicking eject works though01:10
TheSheepBug #9441601:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 94416 in Ubuntu "failure to eject cdrom using button" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9441601:11
TheSheepalnokta: add a meetoo :)01:11
alnoktacool :)01:12
VeritechFighter!cobol01:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cobol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:13
VeritechFighter!ubotu01:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:14
TheSheep!msgthebot > VeritechFighter01:14
VeritechFighterTheSheep, wat does dat do?01:15
VeritechFighteroh01:15
VeritechFightersorry01:15
TheSheepVeritechFighter: not a bug deal01:15
TheSheepbig01:16
PumpernickelVeritechFighter: Possibly Eclipse? http://www.eclipse.org/cobol/01:26
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slow-motionhallo03:05
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keck0fhi.03:48
keck0fhow an i disallow when finisching a xfce-session to reboot/shutdown the machine?03:48
keck0fi'd like to password-protect it or at least only allow it to a certein group (e.g. admin). could you help?03:48
keck0fit's xfce 4.2 on xubuntu-6.06.1-server-amd6403:48
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Pumpernickelkeck0f: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/04:08
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ipx-laptopjo de gr nog bra05:15
ipx-laptop: P05:15
ipx-laptop^^05:15
ipx-laptopsry wrong :o05:15
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MusiqWhich program can I use as alternative for timidity?05:24
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cheeseboyhi05:40
cheeseboymy period key doesnt work05:40
cheeseboyis there a way to have period be a different key?05:41
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asmith42aHow to send special commands (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-Del) to server with TightVNC?05:44
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teknoboihello folks05:58
teknoboioops brb05:59
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teknoboiokay im back...maxamillion...you around?06:00
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harmattanHi everybody06:15
harmattanI'm not a regular user of xfce, but I had an extrange issue with the xubuntu 6.06 live cd06:18
harmattanI could't acces the terminal (xterm?) from the main's panel icon06:19
MagicFabany error messages you can share ?06:22
TheSheepBug #8151206:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81512 in xfce4-terminal "Attempting to open terminal cause restart" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8151206:24
harmattanNo, sorry. In fact a brief screenshot of the terminal appears for a while06:26
harmattanbut doesn't stay to be able to work on it06:26
harmattanMaybe my copy of xubuntu cd is a bit old and with some bugs on it?06:26
harmattanmmmh, the fail wasn't as described in the launchpad bug you pointed, ubotu, although I remember that fail from my attempts of installing Xfce in the BLAG distribution06:31
Jester45harmattan, are you tring to install or is it allready installed?06:31
harmattanNo, the brief screenshot of the terminal is a bug while using the live cd06:32
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Jester45o06:32
Jester45i dont know my ins and outs of the live cd, but you *might* beable to use a terminal via ctrl+alt+F2 and to get back do ctrl+alt+F7 (might be F1 to get back on the live cd)06:33
harmattanIn fact, what I did was to open Xterm. I think I used Alt+F2 to invoque the command box for it06:36
Jester45so the bug is only when lauchned from the menu? thats weird06:43
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harmattanYeah, I thought of the Ubuntu distros as very stable ones06:46
Jester45they have been stable for me06:47
Jester45i havent noticed any bugs, at least non that caused a problem or i can remeber06:48
harmattanI don't mean Ubuntu is bad or something, I'm a regular user    ;-)06:53
harmattanQuite happy with it06:53
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Jester45maybe i should do some cleaning06:59
predaeusJester45, "sudo apt-get clean" for a starter :-D07:00
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FreeFullI have a laptop and everytime I close the lid XScreensaver opens and it request my password to get back to desktop. What do I do so that it wont request my password? I can't find where to change the settings.07:02
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neo2dot0Hallo. I just installed xubuntu on my laptop. I had vectorlinux installed before, so my desktop looks strange, because the files are still in my ~. How can I get the default xfce desktop back I am supposed to have after a fresh install?07:21
neo2dot0I don't know which are the files that xfce uses for configuring the desktop07:21
TheSheepneo2dot0: delete (or better rename) the .config, .local and .cache directories in your home07:28
neo2dot0yes, that looks nice. Thanks!07:31
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harmattanWell guys, I have to go. Thanks ubotu and TheSheep for the answers about Launchpad.07:55
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Jester45hi somerville3208:33
somerville32Hiya :)08:33
Jester45anyone here good at php?08:40
somerville32Meh08:40
Jester45im just wondering if you wanna make something for me, i want a list of files in a dirctory that have check boxes next to them to select the item. Then a button at the bottom/top to have it "backup" the files08:42
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kikrhey how do I find out what version of Java i'm using?08:50
kikri'm getting an error from Azureus is not compatible with my versino of Java, yet I have everything updated08:51
gabkdllydpkg -l | grep java08:51
somerville32!galternatives08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about galternatives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
somerville32!alternatives08:52
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.08:52
somerville32sudo update-alternatives --update java08:52
Jester45kikr, java versions are seprate version so you dont just update from java 5 to 6 you must install 608:53
Jester45seprate packages*08:53
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kikris that easy to do?08:53
Jester45yes08:54
Jester45if you want the java6 jre simply run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" without the quotes08:54
kikrwith this remove java5?08:55
Jester45no to remove you run "sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre"08:56
kikrshould i do that after java6 is installed?08:56
kikror before08:57
Jester45before08:57
somerville32No need to08:59
Jester45but why have v5 when you have v609:00
kikri don't want java5 running when my new java6 is09:01
somerville32java5 won't be running, lol09:01
somerville32But I personally would keep 5 and 609:01
somerville326 is new and some stuff might not run on it09:01
kikrk09:01
Jester45if it doesnt run on 6, for me i think it shouldnt be running at all09:02
kikrwow09:03
kikrI had Java 1.4.2 installed09:03
kikrwhat's up with that09:04
kikrI just installed xbuntu like a month ago09:04
kikrJester45, k java6 is installed now.  do I have to do anything now?  like run it09:07
Jester45shouldnt09:07
kikrstill getting the error from Azureus09:07
Jester45did you leave the other java?09:08
kikrno, how do I do that09:08
kikrsorry =\09:08
Jester45i didnt leave mine09:08
Jester45....09:08
kikroh I didn't uninstall java509:09
kikri just installed java6, but azureus is still reporting the same error09:09
Jester45ok, you have to tell wich java to use... but i dont know how09:09
kikrthought so09:09
kikrsomerville32, any idea?09:09
TheSheepupdate-alternatives09:09
somerville32Yes09:10
somerville32I already told you the answer when you first asked09:10
Jester45sudo update-alternatives --update java09:10
kikrhmmm09:10
kikrnow I need to know the path to java609:11
somerville32Just do sudo update-alternatives --config java09:12
kikr*+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java09:13
kikrthat's what I had09:13
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kikrthanks09:13
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Thorneanyone here try to install xubuntu onto a gateway solo 1450?09:41
somerville32I haven't, sorry09:41
Thornekeep getting what looks like a mount filesystem error when booting of the cd09:42
somerville32Do you think it would be possible for you to get the logs?09:43
Thornewell im running the check cd to see if its the cd09:43
Thornethen im going to try and boot it09:44
somerville32Ah. That might be it.09:44
Thornehad the prob with kubuntu and ubuntu too09:44
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Thornehm well i think one of the problems is the display09:56
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Jester45 /server irc.ef.net10:18
Jester45oops10:18
somerville32:O10:20
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musiqI'm looking for a midi-alternative because timidity takes too much CPU?10:56
maxamillion!midi10:59
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo10:59
maxamillionmusiq: i honestly have no clue ... i looked to the bot for advice ;)11:00
musiqI've already tried everything on this site, but my pc isn't strong enough for timidity11:01
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musiq(but midi worked with windows so i think it is also possible with linux)11:02
maxamillionmusiq: i'm sure it is ... i just honestly have no idea how to do it :(11:04
musiq:p11:05
TheSheepmusiq: your sound card might support hardware synthesis11:07
musiqeuh?11:08
TheSheepmusiq: look for /dev/sound/sequencer11:09
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musiqno such directory11:11
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Jester45TheSheep, would you want to look at more css for me?11:19
Jester45TheSheep, to compact it?11:20
TheSheepJester45: I'd rather had you call some frineds and make a css lesson for you online11:22
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Jester45how about a php lesson, im wanting to make a control panel like thing for vidd's hosting11:24
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somerville32Jester45: Wrong chatroom.11:29
Jester45k11:32
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