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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get
=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
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[07:16] <teknoboi> hello everyone
[07:16] <teknoboi> i am new to xubuntu and i was wondering if i might be able to get some help
[07:16] <maxamillion> !ask | teknoboi
[07:16] <ubotu> teknoboi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:17] <teknoboi> lol thanks
[07:17] <teknoboi> well i guess im confused as to where to start for hardware....from there i can probably get it
[07:17] <teknoboi> but...for example...i have a wireless networking card and im interested in installing it, but im completely lost as to how you install hardware
[07:18] <teknoboi> i found the software install tool
[07:18] <teknoboi> but its no help obviously
[07:20] <maxamillion> !wifi
[07:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:20] <teknoboi> why thanks
[07:20] <maxamillion> teknoboi: that link should give you more info about xubuntu/ubuntu wireless configuration then you probably ever wanted ... but its an awesome resource :)
[07:20] <maxamillion> teknoboi: anytime
[07:20] <teknoboi> clever using a script to answer questions...eliminating the hassle of having to type everything out :-P
[07:21] <teknoboi> its been a long time since ive used irc
[07:22] <teknoboi> this should be extremely useful...thanks again!
[07:22] <maxamillion> teknoboi: yeah, ubotu is a good bot ... he stores info for us all (i use ubotu alot because my memory is horrible)
[07:22] <maxamillion> teknoboi: anytime! drop by if you ever have any problems, we are happy to help
[07:22] <maxamillion> !botsnack
[07:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:22] <maxamillion> good bot
[07:22] <maxamillion> :)
[07:23] <teknoboi> thanks man
[07:23] <teknoboi> ill probably be here a lot in the next few weeks
[07:23] <teknoboi> im a tek saavy guy but not with linux
[07:23] <teknoboi> its about time i venture into this area
[07:24] <maxamillion> teknoboi: well we have plent of residential gurus and i'm sure someone would be able to help with almost any issue you bring to us :)
[07:24] <teknoboi> kewl
[07:24] <teknoboi> well i already have another one
[07:24] <teknoboi> lol
[07:24] <maxamillion> teknoboi: i have been running linux as my only operating system for about 7 and a half years now and i still learn new stuff everyday ... its extremely fun and a wealth of knowledge all at your finger tips
[07:24] <maxamillion> fire away, i will do my best
[07:25] <teknoboi> i dont see my net card reflected on that page....theres a model number thats close but isnt totall correct
[07:26] <teknoboi> is it worth a shot to try out the drivers or no?
[07:26] <teknoboi> <<< is scared to break xubuntu
[07:26] <teknoboi> lo
[07:26] <teknoboi> lol*
[07:26] <maxamillion> teknoboi: i don't think the drivers would necessarily break xubuntu, might just clutter the hard drive :P
[07:27] <maxamillion> teknoboi: what card do you have? ... i might be able to find a better resource specific to your card
[07:27] <teknoboi> its a belkin F5D7000 ver 7000
[07:28] <maxamillion> ok, just a moment
[07:28] <teknoboi> mmk
[07:28] <teknoboi> i have off tomorrow so this is my project tonight along with a few beers
[07:28] <teknoboi> lol
[07:29] <maxamillion> nice
[07:29] <maxamillion> i don't have off tomorrow, but i live for open source so this is where i spend alot of my time
[07:29] <maxamillion> i actually hang here while at work ... just don't always get to pay as much attention to the channel
[07:29] <teknoboi> lol that's awesome...i have a crappy job...i envy you
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[07:33] <maxamillion> teknoboi: well i have good news and bad news ....
[07:33] <teknoboi> lol sounds like my life
[07:33] <maxamillion> teknoboi: the good news is i found a tutorial to tell you how to install the drivers, the bad news is that i have only found reports of it working for people, not that it actually "officially" wors
[07:34] <maxamillion> works*
[07:34] <teknoboi> well the bad news isnt as bad as the good news is good so i guess its worth a shot
[07:34] <teknoboi> i do still have my windows drivers cd...will that do me any good?
[07:35] <maxamillion> teknoboi: yes, actually ... in this instance it will because you are going to have to use the windows driver's firmware to tell the ndiswrapper how to communicate with your card
[07:35] <maxamillion> teknoboi: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux <---that's the link, i hope it works out for you
[07:35] <teknoboi> well i will give it a shot and letya know :-)
[07:35] <teknoboi> brb
[07:35] <maxamillion> teknoboi: the link isn't specifically for you card, but i found reports that it works for your card as well
[07:35] <maxamillion> okies
[07:37] <teknoboi> okay, im dumb...do i have to download the ndis wrapper or is it preinstalled
[07:37] <teknoboi> :-S
[07:38] <maxamillion> you should have to download it, but aptitude will pull it from the server and install for you
[07:38] <maxamillion> or is the wifi the only net connection for that machine?
[07:39] <teknoboi> im using it via wired connections right now
[07:39] <maxamillion> ok, awesome
[07:39] <maxamillion> teknoboi: the tutorial gives you the command needed to install it
[07:40] <teknoboi> yeah except it gave me an error lol
[07:40] <teknoboi> i suck :(
[07:41] <maxamillion> teknoboi: gave you an error?
[07:41] <maxamillion> teknoboi: what error?
[07:41] <teknoboi> 1 sec
[07:41] <teknoboi> richard@richard-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude -p install  ndiswrapper-utils
[07:41] <teknoboi> aptitude: invalid option -- p
[07:41] <teknoboi> aptitude 0.4.4
[07:41] <teknoboi> Usage: aptitude [-S fname]  [-u|-i] 
[07:41] <teknoboi>        aptitude [options]  <action> ...
[07:41] <teknoboi>   Actions (if none is specified, aptitude will enter interactive mode):
[07:42] <teknoboi> and then the list of actions
[07:42] <teknoboi> i got it
[07:42] <teknoboi> i eliminated the -p
[07:43] <maxamillion> teknoboi: the option is -P (linux, as well as other UNIXes are case sensitive)
[07:43] <teknoboi> ooo i see
[07:44] <teknoboi> thats different
[07:44] <teknoboi> lol
[07:44] <maxamillion> teknoboi: welcome to the world of real operating systems ;)
[07:45] <teknoboi> lol
[07:45] <teknoboi> do you think the xp drivers would be the best to use?
[07:46] <maxamillion> teknoboi: yes, and you technically aren't going to use "the drivers" just a firmware file associated with them ... but it will be on the cd in a directory somewhere
[07:46] <teknoboi> right
[07:46] <teknoboi> i just have tons of *inf files
[07:46] <teknoboi> each for different versions of windows
[07:47] <maxamillion> teknoboi: ahhh
[07:48] <teknoboi> but its not working its saying sudo command not found...i dont think the ndis installed
[07:48] <maxamillion> teknoboi: is there one that doesn't have a windows version attached to it? ... maybe just like rt7000r7.inf (or similar, i totally just pulled that name from thin air)
[07:49] <maxamillion> hmmmm
[07:49] <teknoboi> its telling me no candidates found
[07:49] <teknoboi> when i do the install command
[07:51] <maxamillion> teknoboi: its because you aren't in the directory of the cd-rom drive in the terminal so the command doesn't know where the file is and thus "no candidate found"
[07:51] <maxamillion> teknoboi: you browsing the files in thunar?
[07:51] <teknoboi> yeah
[07:51] <teknoboi> no wait
[07:51] <maxamillion> teknoboi: right click in the folder (anywhere but on an icon) and then select "open terminal here"
[07:52] <teknoboi> when i try to install the ndiswrapper it gives me the error
[07:52] <maxamillion> oh
[07:52] <teknoboi> from the root
[07:52] <maxamillion> uhmm... just a moment
[07:52] <teknoboi> okie dokie
[07:52] <maxamillion> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[07:52] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:52] <maxamillion> ?
[07:53] <teknoboi> huh
[07:53] <teknoboi> lol
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[07:53] <maxamillion> ah!
[07:53] <teknoboi> that was quick
[07:53] <teknoboi> lol
[07:53] <maxamillion> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:53] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9: Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 120 kB
[07:53] <maxamillion> teknoboi: they changed the name of the package in feisty ... wonder why :/
[07:54] <teknoboi> so should i try that package name? ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ?
[07:54] <maxamillion> teknoboi: yup
[07:54] <maxamillion> teknoboi: that one should install without any problems
[07:55] <teknoboi> mk brb
[07:55] <teknoboi> ooo there we go
[07:55] <teknoboi> and then i use that package name for all the commands right?
[07:55] <maxamillion> teknoboi: very sorry but i have to go ... i will be back tomorrow though at 10am (its 1am my time right now)
[07:56] <maxamillion> teknoboi: no, all the commands should be the same
[07:56] <teknoboi> okay...im at 1 am as well
[07:56] <teknoboi> okay
[07:56] <maxamillion> teknoboi: just the install package got changed, the command will be the same though
[07:56] <teknoboi> thanks for the help
[07:56] <maxamillion> teknoboi: good luck!
[07:56] <maxamillion> anytime :)
[07:56] <teknoboi> ty
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[09:07] <bobslaede> hello, i'm having problems with my keyboard layout! i usually use danish, but i also need us english, but i'm missing certain characters. I have never had this problem in gnome.
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[09:17] <r0bert> hi thar
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[12:38] <alnokta> xfmedia don't have FULLSCREEN?
[12:38] <TheSheep> alnokta: xfmedia is no longer the default media player for xubuntu
[12:39] <alnokta> TheSheep, gxine?
[12:39] <TheSheep> yes
[12:40] <alnokta> ah..but xfmedia is light ;)
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[12:41] <VeritechFighter> I'm running  a 64-bit ubuntu live cd, does that min, I can install 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:43] <VeritechFighter> wats the diff bet 32bit ubuntu and 64bit?
[12:44] <Pumpernickel> The AMD64 has been compiled to take advantage of the AMD64 arch whenever possible.
[12:44] <Pumpernickel> If you're running it as a livecd, you'll be able to run it as an installed OS.
[12:45] <Pumpernickel> *AMD64 release
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[01:00] <xjkx> i ran cupsd, openned 127.0.0.1:631, added a printer, and it asks for user and password, on normal linux you put root as user and its password, xubuntu hasnt root password, and even if i try to make user usable, it still doesnt work
[01:03] <R[a] ndom> hm dunno. you could try setting up the root account
[01:03] <R[a] ndom> sudo passwd
[01:03] <R[a] ndom> but theres probably a 'proper' way to do this :)
[01:04] <xjkx> i have done that before
[01:04] <xjkx> I can even log as root normally
[01:04] <xjkx> but not in web based
[01:04] <xjkx> you dont use any printer??
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[01:05] <R[a] ndom> Yeah I had mine set up
[01:05] <R[a] ndom> don't remember what I did tho
[01:06] <R[a] ndom> it hasn't had ink for a year now
[01:06] <R[a] ndom> I print at school :P
[01:06] <xjkx> :> i have to go see ya
[01:08] <VeritechFighter> Pumpernickel, thanks! any easy to use cobol IDE for ubuntu?
[01:08] <alnokta> Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0" is not a volume or drive.
[01:08] <alnokta> Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_KWR1608494SC0".
[01:08] <alnokta> is that a bug?
[01:09] <TheSheep> alnokta: yes
[01:10] <alnokta> clicking eject works though
[01:11] <TheSheep> Bug #94416
[01:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 94416 in Ubuntu "failure to eject cdrom using button" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94416
[01:11] <TheSheep> alnokta: add a meetoo :)
[01:12] <alnokta> cool :)
[01:13] <VeritechFighter> !cobol
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cobol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <VeritechFighter> !ubotu
[01:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:14] <TheSheep> !msgthebot > VeritechFighter
[01:15] <VeritechFighter> TheSheep, wat does dat do?
[01:15] <VeritechFighter> oh
[01:15] <VeritechFighter> sorry
[01:15] <TheSheep> VeritechFighter: not a bug deal
[01:16] <TheSheep> big
[01:26] <Pumpernickel> VeritechFighter: Possibly Eclipse? http://www.eclipse.org/cobol/
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[03:05] <slow-motion> hallo
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[03:48] <keck0f> hi.
[03:48] <keck0f> how an i disallow when finisching a xfce-session to reboot/shutdown the machine?
[03:48] <keck0f> i'd like to password-protect it or at least only allow it to a certein group (e.g. admin). could you help?
[03:48] <keck0f> it's xfce 4.2 on xubuntu-6.06.1-server-amd64
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[04:08] <Pumpernickel> keck0f: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/
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[05:15] <ipx-laptop> jo de gr nog bra
[05:15] <ipx-laptop> : P
[05:15] <ipx-laptop> ^^
[05:15] <ipx-laptop> sry wrong :o
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[05:24] <Musiq> Which program can I use as alternative for timidity?
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[05:40] <cheeseboy> hi
[05:40] <cheeseboy> my period key doesnt work
[05:41] <cheeseboy> is there a way to have period be a different key?
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[05:44] <asmith42a> How to send special commands (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-Del) to server with TightVNC?
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[05:58] <teknoboi> hello folks
[05:59] <teknoboi> oops brb
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[06:00] <teknoboi> okay im back...maxamillion...you around?
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[06:15] <harmattan> Hi everybody
[06:18] <harmattan> I'm not a regular user of xfce, but I had an extrange issue with the xubuntu 6.06 live cd
[06:19] <harmattan> I could't acces the terminal (xterm?) from the main's panel icon
[06:22] <MagicFab> any error messages you can share ?
[06:24] <TheSheep> Bug #81512
[06:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 81512 in xfce4-terminal "Attempting to open terminal cause restart" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81512
[06:26] <harmattan> No, sorry. In fact a brief screenshot of the terminal appears for a while
[06:26] <harmattan> but doesn't stay to be able to work on it
[06:26] <harmattan> Maybe my copy of xubuntu cd is a bit old and with some bugs on it?
[06:31] <harmattan> mmmh, the fail wasn't as described in the launchpad bug you pointed, ubotu, although I remember that fail from my attempts of installing Xfce in the BLAG distribution
[06:31] <Jester45> harmattan, are you tring to install or is it allready installed?
[06:32] <harmattan> No, the brief screenshot of the terminal is a bug while using the live cd
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[06:32] <Jester45> o
[06:33] <Jester45> i dont know my ins and outs of the live cd, but you *might* beable to use a terminal via ctrl+alt+F2 and to get back do ctrl+alt+F7 (might be F1 to get back on the live cd)
[06:36] <harmattan> In fact, what I did was to open Xterm. I think I used Alt+F2 to invoque the command box for it
[06:43] <Jester45> so the bug is only when lauchned from the menu? thats weird
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[06:46] <harmattan> Yeah, I thought of the Ubuntu distros as very stable ones
[06:47] <Jester45> they have been stable for me
[06:48] <Jester45> i havent noticed any bugs, at least non that caused a problem or i can remeber
[06:53] <harmattan> I don't mean Ubuntu is bad or something, I'm a regular user    ;-)
[06:53] <harmattan> Quite happy with it
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[06:59] <Jester45> maybe i should do some cleaning
[07:00] <predaeus> Jester45, "sudo apt-get clean" for a starter :-D
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[07:02] <FreeFull> I have a laptop and everytime I close the lid XScreensaver opens and it request my password to get back to desktop. What do I do so that it wont request my password? I can't find where to change the settings.
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[07:21] <neo2dot0> Hallo. I just installed xubuntu on my laptop. I had vectorlinux installed before, so my desktop looks strange, because the files are still in my ~. How can I get the default xfce desktop back I am supposed to have after a fresh install?
[07:21] <neo2dot0> I don't know which are the files that xfce uses for configuring the desktop
[07:28] <TheSheep> neo2dot0: delete (or better rename) the .config, .local and .cache directories in your home
[07:31] <neo2dot0> yes, that looks nice. Thanks!
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[07:55] <harmattan> Well guys, I have to go. Thanks ubotu and TheSheep for the answers about Launchpad.
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[08:33] <Jester45> hi somerville32
[08:33] <somerville32> Hiya :)
[08:40] <Jester45> anyone here good at php?
[08:40] <somerville32> Meh
[08:42] <Jester45> im just wondering if you wanna make something for me, i want a list of files in a dirctory that have check boxes next to them to select the item. Then a button at the bottom/top to have it "backup" the files
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[08:50] <kikr> hey how do I find out what version of Java i'm using?
[08:51] <kikr> i'm getting an error from Azureus is not compatible with my versino of Java, yet I have everything updated
[08:51] <gabkdlly> dpkg -l | grep java
[08:51] <somerville32> !galternatives
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about galternatives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <somerville32> !alternatives
[08:52] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[08:52] <somerville32> sudo update-alternatives --update java
[08:53] <Jester45> kikr, java versions are seprate version so you dont just update from java 5 to 6 you must install 6
[08:53] <Jester45> seprate packages*
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[08:53] <kikr> is that easy to do?
[08:54] <Jester45> yes
[08:54] <Jester45> if you want the java6 jre simply run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" without the quotes
[08:55] <kikr> with this remove java5?
[08:56] <Jester45> no to remove you run "sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre"
[08:56] <kikr> should i do that after java6 is installed?
[08:57] <kikr> or before
[08:57] <Jester45> before
[08:59] <somerville32> No need to
[09:00] <Jester45> but why have v5 when you have v6
[09:01] <kikr> i don't want java5 running when my new java6 is
[09:01] <somerville32> java5 won't be running, lol
[09:01] <somerville32> But I personally would keep 5 and 6
[09:01] <somerville32> 6 is new and some stuff might not run on it
[09:01] <kikr> k
[09:02] <Jester45> if it doesnt run on 6, for me i think it shouldnt be running at all
[09:03] <kikr> wow
[09:03] <kikr> I had Java 1.4.2 installed
[09:04] <kikr> what's up with that
[09:04] <kikr> I just installed xbuntu like a month ago
[09:07] <kikr> Jester45, k java6 is installed now.  do I have to do anything now?  like run it
[09:07] <Jester45> shouldnt
[09:07] <kikr> still getting the error from Azureus
[09:08] <Jester45> did you leave the other java?
[09:08] <kikr> no, how do I do that
[09:08] <kikr> sorry =\
[09:08] <Jester45> i didnt leave mine
[09:08] <Jester45> ....
[09:09] <kikr> oh I didn't uninstall java5
[09:09] <kikr> i just installed java6, but azureus is still reporting the same error
[09:09] <Jester45> ok, you have to tell wich java to use... but i dont know how
[09:09] <kikr> thought so
[09:09] <kikr> somerville32, any idea?
[09:09] <TheSheep> update-alternatives
[09:10] <somerville32> Yes
[09:10] <somerville32> I already told you the answer when you first asked
[09:10] <Jester45> sudo update-alternatives --update java
[09:10] <kikr> hmmm
[09:11] <kikr> now I need to know the path to java6
[09:12] <somerville32> Just do sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:13] <kikr> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[09:13] <kikr> that's what I had
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[09:13] <kikr> thanks
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[09:41] <Thorne> anyone here try to install xubuntu onto a gateway solo 1450?
[09:41] <somerville32> I haven't, sorry
[09:42] <Thorne> keep getting what looks like a mount filesystem error when booting of the cd
[09:43] <somerville32> Do you think it would be possible for you to get the logs?
[09:43] <Thorne> well im running the check cd to see if its the cd
[09:44] <Thorne> then im going to try and boot it
[09:44] <somerville32> Ah. That might be it.
[09:44] <Thorne> had the prob with kubuntu and ubuntu too
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[09:56] <Thorne> hm well i think one of the problems is the display
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[10:18] <Jester45>  /server irc.ef.net
[10:18] <Jester45> oops
[10:20] <somerville32> :O
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[10:56] <musiq> I'm looking for a midi-alternative because timidity takes too much CPU?
[10:59] <maxamillion> !midi
[10:59] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:00] <maxamillion> musiq: i honestly have no clue ... i looked to the bot for advice ;)
[11:01] <musiq> I've already tried everything on this site, but my pc isn't strong enough for timidity
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[11:02] <musiq> (but midi worked with windows so i think it is also possible with linux)
[11:04] <maxamillion> musiq: i'm sure it is ... i just honestly have no idea how to do it :(
[11:05] <musiq> :p
[11:07] <TheSheep> musiq: your sound card might support hardware synthesis
[11:08] <musiq> euh?
[11:09] <TheSheep> musiq: look for /dev/sound/sequencer
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[11:11] <musiq> no such directory
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[11:19] <Jester45> TheSheep, would you want to look at more css for me?
[11:20] <Jester45> TheSheep, to compact it?
[11:22] <TheSheep> Jester45: I'd rather had you call some frineds and make a css lesson for you online
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[11:24] <Jester45> how about a php lesson, im wanting to make a control panel like thing for vidd's hosting
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[11:29] <somerville32> Jester45: Wrong chatroom.
[11:32] <Jester45> k
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