[02:19] <shishir> hi all
[02:20] <shishir> can somebody help me with Edubuntu Live CD
[02:20] <sbalneav> What do you need?
[02:21] <shishir> I'm trying it on Dell C600 laptop and I'm getting BUffer I/O error and then some Gnome display error
[02:22] <shishir> finally it freezes while displaying the window manager
[02:22] <shishir> I tried Xubuntu also, looks like I get the same error
[02:22] <sbalneav> Where are you getting this error?
[02:23] <sbalneav> After you've logged in?
[02:23] <shishir> while booting up after the Edubuntu splash screen
[02:23] <shishir> and then a series of console messages with [OK] 
[02:24] <sbalneav> You might want to try booting it with the boot options "noapic", or maybe "acpi=off"
[02:24] <sbalneav> Or both
[02:25] <sbalneav> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-372429.html
[02:25] <shishir> will try that
[02:26] <sbalneav> has some other boot options you could try.
[02:27] <shishir> I tried installing with Ubuntu with Alternate CD, it failed installing Ubuntu
[02:27] <shishir> thought may be some hard disk problems and so trying xubuntu live CD
[02:29] <sbalneav> http://radagast.bglug.ca/laptop/ubuntu_on_latitude_c600.html
[02:29] <sbalneav> looks like you need "nodma" option
[02:31] <shishir> great, I'll try to follow that link ..thanx
[02:32] <shishir> how much RAM do I need
[02:32] <shishir> for this to work
[02:32] <sbalneav> 128 might be a bit tight
[02:32] <sbalneav> but workable
[02:32] <sbalneav> 256's good
[02:33] <sbalneav> anything more's gravy.
[02:33] <shishir> I have 256 but somehow these days it says memory changed and it shows only 160
[02:33] <sbalneav> Sounds like something whacky in your bios
[02:34] <sbalneav> You haven't allocated 96 megs for video ram, have you?
[02:34] <sbalneav> in Bios?
[02:34] <shishir> you think that might also be the problem
[02:34] <sbalneav> Possibly
[02:35] <sbalneav> I'd check it anyway.
[02:35] <shishir> hmm.I didn't change anything in bios, it shows only 8MB for video ram I think
[02:35] <sbalneav> That seems reasonable
[02:35] <sbalneav> Wife's calling me to go for a walk.
[02:35] <sbalneav> I'll be AFK for an hour or so.
[02:35] <sbalneav> Give that last link a try, and see if you can get it booted, at least.
[02:35] <shishir> thanx for your help.I'll try
[02:35] <sbalneav> np
[02:36] <sbalneav> be back later
[05:26] <sbalneav> Back
[05:26] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[05:27] <lns> wb sbalneav
[05:28] <sbalneav> Looks like the new ltsp-server package has made it to archives.
[05:28] <sbalneav> Looks like I'll have to rebuild my chroot :)
[06:11] <sbalneav> Morning RichEd
[06:41] <emman101> anybody know how to connect to mirc.undernet server?
[01:00] <willvdl> highvoltage, did the guys get back to you about the webserver?
[01:10] <stgraber> Argh, seems like my Tribe-1 Edubuntu CD doesn't want to build the ltsp (stick at 50% for >1 hour ...), let's try a "command line system" install and then install ltsp + desktop
[01:11] <ogra> stgraber, can you look at console4 where it hangs ?
[01:11] <juliux> stgraber, switch with alt +f4 to the console there is a log file of the installation so you can see why it stops
[01:11] <juliux> shit too slow
[01:11] <ogra> (it shouldnt)
[01:12] <ogra> q:q
[01:12] <ogra> oops
[01:12] <ogra> wrong keyboard ....
[01:12] <stgraber> :), IIRC it was about copying files/setting up the tftp server, quickly reinstalling it and will tell you exactly what that's
[01:13] <ogra> building the client later makes sense btw, since what was built on tribe1 is still the old ltsp ... you'd need to rebuild the chroot anyway
[01:14] <ogra> but it still shouldnt hang :)
[01:14] <stgraber> yes, I planned to install Tribe-1 and then update + ltsp-build-client but it doesn't really want me to do so it seems :)
[01:14] <ogra> hmm
[01:40] <emman101> i have created a bash program that can multiply thousand bash files and commands in a network in a certain period of time all i need is a php interface for web access
[01:41] <emman101> anyone who wants to help me?
[01:44] <stgraber> The installer finally has started building the LTSP chroot, let's see where it gets stuck
[01:48] <emman101> ?
[01:48] <ogra> its normal that it takes 10-20 min from 50% to 100 with no movement
[01:49] <ogra> you should see it working on tty4 though
[01:51] <stgraber> ogra: Updating /var/lib/tftpboot directories for chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386
[01:51] <stgraber> IIRC that's were it previously got stuck
[01:51] <ogra> hmm
[01:51] <stgraber> I'll wait some more minutes anyway
[01:51] <ogra> thats just copying the /boot dir from the chroot
[01:53] <stgraber> I've a copy of "ps aux" and the syslog, do you want anything else ?
[01:58] <stgraber> ogra: ^ (10 minutes it's "updating /var/lib/tftpboot")
[02:04] <ogra> no, thats enough, can yu file a bug and attach it ?
[02:05] <stgraber> sure
[02:08] <juliux> ogra, why is the tribe1 iso calle gutsy-server-i386.iso ? isnt there an edubuntu missing?
[02:09] <ogra> its in the edubuntu dir, isnt it ? :)
[02:09] <stgraber> juliux: distribution is in the iso file name
[02:10] <stgraber> ogra: Is that a ltsp-server bug ?
[02:10] <ogra> stgraber, ltsp
[02:10] <juliux> ogra, but not on my local harddisk;)
[02:10] <stgraber> ok
[02:11] <juliux> and the ubuntu-server iso has the same name so if i have downloaded booth i cannt see the difference
[02:14] <stgraber> ogra: bug 121547
[02:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121547 in ltsp "[Gutsy]  LTSP chroot building process hangs at 50%" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121547
[02:14] <ogra> thanks
[02:15] <stgraber> no problem, let's install the command line system now :)
[02:28] <ogra> stgraber, oh
[02:29] <ogra> stgraber, you are using updates during install ...
[02:29] <ogra> that means its building the squashfs image after copying the tftp stuff
[02:29] <ogra> so thats normal
[02:29] <stgraber> hmm, I didn't do anything but following the usual steps :)
[02:29] <stgraber> so that's because debian-installer automatically does the updates
[02:30] <ogra> i see /usr/sbin/ltsp-update-image running
[02:30] <ogra> but not mksquashfs
[02:31] <ogra> there is no code in the installer yet to handle ltsp-update-image
[02:32] <ogra> so you wont see any output
[02:32] <stgraber> hmm, what's strange is why did the installer get the new package ?
[02:32] <stgraber> did they turn auto-updates on ?
[02:32] <ogra> well, it usually asks you
[02:33] <ogra> if you would do a non networked install you would get plain tribe1 but this way you get updates
[02:37] <`6og> is there anythign talking about the new not-primary stuff targeted to edubuntu, and whwat sort of timeline would be attached?
[02:40] <ogra> jsgotangco, congrats !
[02:40] <jsgotangco> hrmm?
[02:41] <ogra> jsgotangco, new job ... or did linkedin lie
[02:41] <jsgotangco> ahh yes
[02:42] <jsgotangco> heh i actually am getting bored being unemployed for a month
[02:42] <jsgotangco> but yeah i got a new job
[02:42] <jsgotangco> we work in maven and hadoop
[03:06] <willvdl> highvoltage, ping
[03:28] <cottima> is the thin client manager available for other distros?
[03:34] <ogra> cottima, nope
[03:34] <ogra> not afaik
[03:35] <cottima> oh, well.  I guess for now I will use the debian install, then recompile edubuntu to work on cpqarray scsi.
[03:36] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:05] <stgraber> ogra: isn't : aptitude install edubuntu-desktop edubuntu-server && ltsp-build-client supposed to install the Edubuntu server ?
[04:05] <stgraber> I can boot a thin client, it gets the IP, then load the initrd & stuff using tftp
[04:06] <stgraber> I see the Edubuntu logo but a second after I've a shell
[04:06] <stgraber> and 4 mount error on tty1
[04:06] <ogra> thats bad
[04:06] <stgraber> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init it says ...
[04:07] <ogra> cat /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/ltsp
[04:07] <ogra> MODULES="netboot"
[04:07] <ogra> BOOT="ltsp-nbd"
[04:07] <ogra> does yours show the same ?
[04:07] <RichEd> ogra: chatting to anestis in #edulinux ... if you want to join us or observe (optional)
[04:07] <stgraber> yes
[04:08] <stgraber> I also have a : nbdrootd : connect from 172.16.4.216 in the server's syslog
[04:09] <ogra> stgraber, weird
[04:09] <ogra> the ip is your client ?
[04:09] <stgraber> yes
[04:09] <ogra> hmm
[04:10] <ogra> so apparenly the initramfs tries to connect
[04:10] <ogra> can you type mount in the chell ?
[04:10] <ogra> *shell
[04:10] <ogra> and see if there is /rofs or /cow in it ?
[04:11] <stgraber> I've : /sys, /proc, /dev, /cow, /root and /root/cow mounted
[04:11] <stgraber> mount: Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: invalid argument (on tty1)
[04:14] <ogra> aha
[04:15] <ogra> seems like a bug in the ltsp-nbd script ...
[04:18] <ogra> can you check the PXE config ?
[04:19] <ogra> it should have NBDPORT in the kernel commandline
[04:19] <ogra> ogra@laptop:~/devel/scotts-gutsy$ cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
[04:19] <ogra> DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash NBDPORT=2000
[04:19] <ogra> and that port must match the setting in /etc/inetd.conf
[04:19] <ogra> for nbdrootd
[04:20] <ogra> also check if the image is word readble in /opt/ltsp/images
[04:20] <ogra> *world
[04:20] <stgraber> I don't have any NBDPORT in pxelinux.cfg/default ...
[04:20] <ogra> aha
[04:20] <ogra> well, it falls back to 2000 if its not set
[04:21] <ogra> what does your inetd,conf say ?
[04:21] <stgraber> nbdrootd on :2000
[04:21] <ogra> good
[04:21] <ogra> check the image
[04:22] <ogra> ogra@laptop:~/devel/scotts-gutsy$ ls -l /opt/ltsp/images/
[04:22] <ogra> insgesamt 143212
[04:22] <ogra> -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 146501632 2007-06-21 15:57 i386.img
[04:22] <stgraber> I'm rebuilding it (just in case)
[04:22] <stgraber> world readable here as well
[04:22] <ogra> weird
[04:24] <stgraber> isn't : nbd-client 172.16.1.2 2000 /dev/nbd0 supposed to be correct ?
[04:25] <stgraber> ok, weird : It returns : Negocation:
[04:25] <stgraber> then the prompt
[04:26] <stgraber> and on the server I see the : connect from 172.16.4.214
[04:26] <stgraber> but mounting the squashfs -> No such device
[04:26] <stgraber> (I got the commands from /scripts/ltsp-nbd)
[04:27] <ogra> hmm
[04:27] <ogra> i have to check myself ....
[04:27] <ogra> sbalneav seemed to have the same prob last night
[04:28] <stgraber> is nbd-client supposed to launch some sort of daemon ?
[04:29] <ogra> nope
[04:29] <ogra> it should only create the device and background itself
[04:29] <stgraber> ok
[04:32] <ogra> do you have /dev/nbd0 ?
[04:32] <ogra> and is a nbd-client process running ?
[04:33] <stgraber> I have /dev/nbd0 (in fact I've nbd0->nbd15) but no nbd-client process running
[04:33] <ogra> ah
[04:33] <ogra> ok, so we're sure its the nbd connection
[05:02] <juliux> ogra, tribe1 didnt reboot after finishing the installtion
[05:02] <ogra> well
[05:02] <ogra> if you force it, does it work after boot ?
[05:02] <juliux> it ejects the cd but didnt reboot
[05:02] <ogra> ah
[05:02] <ogra> acpi glitch it seems
[05:03] <juliux> the last row i see on the screen is sd 0:0:0:0: [sda]  Syncrhonizign SCSI cache
[05:04] <juliux> ogra, strg+alt+del is also not working;)
[05:05] <ogra> just powercycle it
[05:05] <ogra> its either uspash osr something low level
[05:06] <juliux> ok
[05:07] <ogra> nothing w eneed to care about now :)
[05:07] <ogra> ubuntu stuff
[05:10] <juliux> ok
[05:10] <juliux> i will install all the updates
[05:18] <RichEd> ogra: can you join a phone chat
[05:32] <juliux> ogra, should i remove the old chroot or just run ltsp-build-client again?
[05:46] <ogra> juliux, yes
[05:46] <juliux> ogra, yes for an or question is not an answer;)
[05:47] <ogra> yes to the latter
[05:47] <juliux> i have the answer allready because ltsp-build-client said pls remove the old one befor running ltsp-build-client again
[05:56] <Ind[y] > The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!
[05:56] <ogra> ??
[06:02] <sbalneav> There's a man who's got a beef
[06:10] <juliux> ogra, that is my dhcpd.conf http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11966/ and ps aux said there i also a dhcp3-server running but i didnt get an ip address on the client, any hints?
[06:20] <sbalneav> ogra: Just got ldmgtkgreet listening to stdin, and am able to set a message area with a message :) :) :)
[06:20] <ogra> yay
[06:21] <sbalneav> Better logins, here we come!
[06:21] <juliux> ogra, any ideas about the dhcp-server?
[06:21] <sbalneav> Yesterday, I couldn't even spell "gtk/glib programmer" and today I are one. :)
[06:22] <sbalneav> juliux: where's your dhcpd.conf?  In /etc/ltsp?
[06:23] <juliux> sbalneav, yes
[06:23] <sbalneav> juliux: check in /var/log/daemon.log.  Is the dhcpd server seeing the requests?
[06:24] <juliux> sbalneav, now the gutsy computer hangs up;)
[06:24] <sbalneav> Well, it is beta, you know :)
[06:26] <juliux> sbalneav, sure
[06:26] <juliux> i have an extra computer for gutsy
[06:26] <juliux> so  i have no problems with reinstalling and crashing systems
[06:27] <sbalneav> Check in the log file when you have it back up
[06:29] <juliux> i think it is not beta it is a prealpha
[06:30] <ogra> nah
[06:30] <juliux> sbalneav, i think there is something realy brocken
[06:30] <ogra> ltsp is beta :)
[06:30] <juliux> ogra, but not networkmanager
[06:31] <ogra> well ...
[06:31] <sbalneav> Ah, I've been having some problems with NM the last few days.
[06:31] <ogra> i think the NM maintainers would tell you its past beta :)
[06:31] <juliux> the first thing i did on my home computer was removing networkmanager
[06:31] <ogra> juliux, http://www.wdr.de/themen/_config_/kurznach/index.jhtml?tid=1388709
[06:32] <sbalneav> I have to ifdown  and ifup to get my static interface to wake up
[06:32] <ogra> thats my landlord from my last house ...
[06:32] <juliux> ogra, upps
[06:32] <sbalneav> For those of us not German, what does that say? :)
[06:32] <ogra> they found him with cut throat today for people not reading german
[06:33] <juliux> sbalneav, that somebody killed him
[06:33] <ogra> in frnt of the house
[06:33] <sbalneav> Oh, bummer
[06:33] <ogra> will be on tv in 20min ...
[06:33] <sbalneav> What does  "Schnittverletzungen" mean?
[06:33] <ogra> dont want to miss it ...
[06:33] <ogra> cuts
[06:33] <ogra> or wouldns caused by cuts
[06:33] <ogra> *wounds
[06:33] <sbalneav> Stab wounds
[06:33] <ogra> yeah
[06:34] <juliux> so after a few reboots it is working now
[06:35] <ogra> juliux, reboots of the client ?
[06:35] <juliux> ogra, no of the server
[06:35] <ogra> ah
[06:36] <juliux> sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[06:36] <juliux> WARNING: /opt/ltsp/./images/etc/ssh not found. skipping...
[06:36] <juliux> hmmm
[06:36] <ogra> fine
[06:36] <ogra> there shouldnt be an /etc in the images dir :)
[06:36] <juliux> ah ok
[06:36] <ogra> if you run update-sshkeys you need to run ltsp-update-image afterwards now
[06:37] <ogra> sorry, i havent fod a way to prevent that
[06:37] <ogra> *found
[06:37] <ogra> anyway
[06:40] <juliux> thxs
[06:40] <juliux> you are too fast with the ltsp development
[06:41] <juliux> /bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off
[06:49] <LaserJock> morning Edu land
[06:51] <juliux> morning core-dev
[06:57] <padsan> hello
[06:58] <padsan> could anyone tell me the name of the java packages of JRE for edubuntu
[06:58] <padsan> I don't seem to have them on my repos
[07:01] <LaserJock> blah
[07:01] <LaserJock> left too soon
[07:27] <stgraber> LaserJock: yes, looks like a lot of people expect to have an answer to their question within the next 5 minutes :) (even 3 for him)
[07:28] <LaserJock> heh
[08:19] <edistar> the installer hangs at 50% building chroot..
[08:20] <ogra> edistar, gutsy ?
[08:20] <edistar> I have installed it previously on the same machine before and it worked, I have changed nothing..
[08:20] <edistar> no, feisty
[08:20] <ogra> hmm, check on console 4 whats going on....
[08:20] <ogra> (alt-f4)
[08:21] <edistar> it's already 30 minutes setting up console..
[08:21] <edistar> no errors
[08:22] <edistar> the cd is not broken, I ordered it.. and I checked it aswell..
[08:27] <edistar> any ideas?
[08:28] <ogra> not really, if you dont see any error messages ...
[08:28] <edistar> no :(
[08:28] <edistar> there isn't a keyboard combination that gets me a step back, is there?
[08:28] <ogra> nope
[08:29] <edistar> I'll try to install again..
[08:29] <edistar> it worked once
[08:29] <ogra> i havent seen such a behavior ever ... are you sure your HW is proper ?
[08:29] <edistar> yes, I am..
[08:29] <edistar> debian is running on it
[08:30] <edistar> I wanted to add edubuntu as a vm in xen
[08:30] <edistar> DomU can be unmodified cause of the virtualization in the cpu
[08:30] <edistar> but I can't even install it
[08:31] <sbalneav> So, you're not installing this ON the box, you're installing it under xen?
[08:31] <edistar> no
[08:31] <edistar> on the box.
[08:31] <edistar> xen takes the partition later on
[08:32] <edistar> but first the OS is installed in a separate partition as if it were bootable
[08:32] <edistar> like normal
[08:33] <sbalneav> When the installer's running for the chroot, can you switch to another console?
[08:33] <edistar> yes
[08:34] <sbalneav> Did you log in and see what it was doing?
[08:34] <edistar> I can switch to F4 and it tells me about console-setu
[08:34] <edistar> p
[08:34] <edistar> but that can't take 45 min, can it?
[08:34] <sbalneav> One of them (f2 I think) allows you to hit enter to activate the console
[08:34] <sbalneav> then you can do a ps -ef and see what it's up to.
[08:35] <edistar> okey... I restarted the install now, but I'll remember..
[08:35] <edistar> what kind of console is it actually?
[08:35] <edistar> some kind of busybox?
[08:36] <sbalneav> Beleive so
[08:36] <edistar> ok
[08:41] <edistar> btw: anyone notice any bugs in sabayon yet?
[08:41] <edistar> I don't know where I can file them or even look at them?
[08:41] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon
[08:46] <sbalneav> ogra: hehhehehehe
[08:47] <sbalneav> I've now got a greeter that's controlled by stdin
[08:47] <ogra> cool
[08:47] <sbalneav> commands:
[08:47] <sbalneav> msg <message text>
[08:47] <sbalneav> prompt <prompt text>
[08:47] <sbalneav> userid
[08:47] <sbalneav> passwd
[08:47] <sbalneav> and quit
[08:47] <ogra> lang/session ?
[08:48] <sbalneav> I'll add those.
[08:48] <ogra> wowie
[08:48] <ogra> thats great
[08:48] <sbalneav> So, now, we can script the login session
[08:48] <ogra> stdin is the right way :)
[08:48] <sbalneav> yeah
[08:48] <ogra> better than a socket or so
[08:48] <sbalneav> yes indeedy
[08:48] <ogra> one thing bugs me though ...
[08:49] <sbalneav> whassat?
[08:49] <ogra> we wot be able to make it a stadalone app
[08:49] <ogra> *wont
[08:49] <sbalneav> what, the greeter?
[08:49] <ogra> at least with the socked being open as it is atm
[08:49] <ogra> *socket
[08:50] <sbalneav> No, I suppose not, but we can't have everything. :)
[08:56] <ogra> depends ... we could run it as ldm user ;)
[08:57] <sbalneav> That's possible
[09:44] <Jalex> Just installed 7.04 feisty and get this error NFS over TCP not available from 192.168.0.254
[09:44] <Jalex> any thoughts
[09:45] <ogra> well, does your nfsd run ?
[09:45] <ogra> does portmap run
[09:46] <Jalex> will check
[09:50] <Jalex> both run
[10:20] <LaserJock> bluekuja: ping?
[10:20] <bluekuja> LaserJock, heya
[10:20] <LaserJock> bluekuja: I figured out the problem with you debian/rules section
[10:20] <bluekuja> :)
[10:22] <bluekuja> LaserJock, you gonna push it?
[10:25] <bluekuja> LaserJock, let me knwo when pushed, so I can annunce it on MOTU list ;)
[10:26] <bluekuja> *know
[10:28] <LaserJock> bluekuja: how did you turn this into docbook?
[10:28] <bluekuja> LaserJock, manually :P
[10:29] <bluekuja> oh wait
[10:29] <bluekuja> I just written it in xml
[10:29] <bluekuja> did *not* transformed it
[10:29] <bluekuja> into docbook
[10:35] <LaserJock> so you just rewrote it in docbook?
[10:35] <bluekuja> yup
[10:35] <bluekuja> manually
[10:35] <LaserJock> bluekuja: it's been committed
[10:35] <bluekuja> LaserJock, :)
[10:35] <bluekuja> gonna announce it now
[10:35] <bluekuja> thanks again!
[10:35] <bluekuja> :)
[10:35] <LaserJock> bluekuja: look it over first before you announce it
[10:35] <LaserJock> I might have made a mistake
[10:35] <bluekuja> ok
[10:36] <bluekuja> LaserJock, it gets automatically synced to doc.ubuntu.com?
[10:36] <LaserJock> I think so, doc.ubuntu.com is generally rebuilt daily
[10:37] <LaserJock> unless something gets messed up
[10:37] <bluekuja> ok
[10:37] <bluekuja> gonna wait that sync
[10:37] <bluekuja> before announcing
[10:46] <LaserJock> moquist: around?