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autoscumi found a blank cd ^_^12:13
afki got a slight issue wich i been trying to fix for about a week now i had feisty installed with XP but upgraded to vista and now i can't seem to find a way to fix grub so kubuntu can boot i've done forum searching saying to boot it from cd but i always get a panic12:14
DragnslcrI'm beginning to wonder if it'd be worth it at this point to go back and install the 32-bit version12:14
DragnslcrSo much stuff that doesn't have amd64 packages yet12:14
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nosrednaekimkenro: yes12:15
autoscumkenro: im gonna download kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso that's okay, right? :)12:15
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: thats what I did12:15
nosrednaekimautoscum: as long as you don't have a SPARC ;)12:15
autoscumsparc?? :D12:15
nosrednaekimits another architecture12:16
kenroautoscum, That's feisty, right?12:16
autoscumyep 7.0412:16
DragnslcrExcept I made the mistake of not separating my /home partition12:16
nosrednaekimautoscum: yeah, thats fine12:16
autoscumokay :))12:16
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autoscumdownloading @ 3.5 MB/s12:16
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: BIG mistake :)12:16
autoscum2 minutes ^^12:16
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Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- heh, yup12:16
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afkanyone?12:16
nosrednaekimEVERYONE?12:16
kenroautoscum, Kill the playbyplay12:16
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autoscumkill the playbyplay??12:17
SurgerWill the kubuntu 7.04 desktop install on a PC with less than 256MB of RAM or must I rather download the "alternate" ISO?12:17
TheCreationistOkay, after upgrading to Feisty, I now have no sound, no support for my CD burner, and startup is extremely slow.  Since I have no CD burner, I can't even burn a copy of Ubuntu.  What should I do now?12:18
Surgeri.e. Will the installer check and refuse to install if < 256MB of RAM?12:18
nosrednaekimSurger: how much ram does it have?12:18
nosrednaekimSurger: no.12:18
Surgernosrednaekim: 96MB12:18
afkdum de do.12:18
JucatoSurger: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php says 256MB will do.12:18
kenroautoscum, Disregard. Was too slow, shouldn't have typed it anyway.12:18
Jucatoanything lower will need the alternate install cd12:18
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autoscumkenro: :))12:18
nosrednaekimSurger: definately get the alternate installer, and in addition I would reccomend Xubuntu12:18
autoscumwhat was the burn command again? :)12:19
nosrednaekimautoscum: upen up k3b12:19
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kenrok3b better than Nero.12:19
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nosrednaekimkenro: its free :)12:20
nosrednaekimbut no.12:20
autoscumthat's writing at 52x ?!12:20
afkhmm i'd take it no one has an answer12:20
kenrok3d better than lightwave.12:20
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autoscumis it safe??12:20
DragnslcrActually, can parted/gparted create new partitions from the empty space in an existing partition?12:20
nosrednaekimafk: whats the question?12:20
autoscumoh, wait, it doesnt go over 26, never mind :))12:20
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: yep12:20
afkk> i got a slight issue wich i been trying to fix for about a week now i had feisty installed with XP but upgraded to vista and now i can't seem to find a way to fix grub so kubuntu can boot i've done forum searching saying to boot it from cd but i always get a panic12:21
Surgernosrednaekim &Jucato: Thanks. This machine will basically be headless and will run in console. Just want to be able to run a few small X11/Xorg apps remotely so 96MB should work.12:21
nosrednaekimafk: Vista probably messed with your BIOS12:21
DragnslcrSo it should be possible to create a new partition and move /home to it12:21
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afkhmm12:21
autoscumVista can alter bios?12:21
JucatoSurger: then the Alternate Install CD would be better for you. you can install a command line system (headless) using that12:21
nosrednaekimautoscum: sometimes upgrading also upgrades your BIOS, especcially if you do an Express upgrade12:22
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afki had a recent bios update from sony12:22
TheCreationistOkay, after upgrading to Feisty, I now have no sound, no support for my CD burner, and startup is extremely slow.  Since I have no CD burner, I can't even burn a copy of Ubuntu.  What should I do now?12:22
autoscummotherf@$%#12:22
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afkthat mean the system is useless?12:22
autoscumwrite error :(((12:22
nosrednaekimafk: did you try booting linuxafter you upgraded the BIOS12:23
afkya worked fine12:23
nosrednaekimautoscum: that stinks12:23
nosrednaekimafk: odd.12:23
autoscumnosrednaekim: want the debug output?12:23
nosrednaekimthe Kubuntu liveCD doesn't boot?12:23
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afkis it posibule the live cd won't boot the h/d because its a diffent version?12:23
nosrednaekimautoscum: eh.. why ot12:23
nosrednaekimafk: oh, you are trying to boot the HD?12:23
afkya so i can reinstall grub12:24
nosrednaekimafk: no,just boot the liveCD12:24
nosrednaekimand then CHroot12:24
afkdoes it matter that its a diffent version of kubuntu?12:24
autoscumhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26496/12:24
autoscumhere12:24
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nosrednaekimafk: no12:25
afkhappen to have a totorial on how to reinstall grub12:25
nosrednaekimafk: from a chroot?12:26
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- I have a 250 GB disk with just under 100 GB used. Think I should try making a new partition and installing the i386 version to it?12:26
afki had this happen befor and ended up having to reformat it12:26
TheCreationistAfter upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?12:26
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nosrednaekimautoscum: bad cd probably12:26
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: hmm I think you have to do that from a LIveCD12:26
autoscumnosrednaekim: i'll try with the other one.. hope it works :(12:26
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- parted can't work on mounted partitions then?12:27
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: nope12:27
DragnslcrAh12:27
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autoscumbah, this one was even more broken...12:28
bufflesafk: Will this be of any use to You? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation12:28
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DragnslcrSo how does this plan sound? Split off a new 50 GB partition, install the i386 version to that, and mount the remaining ~200GB partition as /home ?12:28
TheCreationistAfter upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?12:29
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autoscumhow stupid...12:29
DragnslcrIf I do that, I shouldn't lose any data, right?12:29
juanfranhola a todos alguien me puede ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????12:30
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: sounds good...12:30
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: except you are going to have to move some stuff around12:30
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Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- yeah, I know I'd have to move stuff in /home/user to the new location12:31
nosrednaekimbuffles: hmmm I never saw that method12:31
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DragnslcrMaybe some other directories, too. Moving files around doesn't bother me as long as I don't lose any of them12:31
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DragnslcrShould probably still burn a few DVD's worth of backups though, huh?12:32
bufflesnosrednaekim: I've had to use it a few times after installing XP alongside Kubuntu12:32
autoscumwell im gonna hit the sack12:32
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autoscumgood night, duuds :)12:32
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juanfranme puede ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????12:32
autoscumhave a good one12:32
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juanfranme pueden ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????12:32
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Jucato!es12:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:32
nosrednaekimbuffles: I always just did the chroot approach12:33
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afksuprizeingly that worked12:35
ardchoilleNot sure if everyone saw this but it seems very relevant to this channel:  http://tinyurl.com/ypjs7q12:36
afknow i just need to figure out how to add vista to the boot i know how to manualy add xp ect but i hear vista is a bit harder12:36
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nosrednaekimardchoille: yeah I saw that on tuxmachines12:36
ardchoilleJucato: IS it possible to put that link in the topic ?12:37
bufflesnosrednaekim: I can't say that I'm familiar with that approach12:37
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nosrednaekimbuffles: you boot a livecd, chroot into your linux install and run grub-configure or whatever.12:39
nosrednaekimgrub-install.12:39
bufflesnosrednaekim: Oh, right12:39
TheCreationistAfter upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?12:39
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: install off of a USB stick...i THINK you can do that.12:40
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: I'm not sure that my bios will boot from USB.12:40
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Nor do I have a USB drive ;)12:40
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: I'm just very confused how upgrading can make so much of my hardware suddenly not work.12:41
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: do a uname -a please12:41
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jezus007i have an .rpm file12:42
jezus007what's the command12:42
jezus007to make it12:42
DragnslcrAnyone know offhand an apt command to list all installed packages? Just figured I'd save it in case I want to go by it for reinstalling12:42
jezus007i forgot12:42
Dragnslcrjezus007- to convert it to a .deb is 'alien'12:42
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Linux c-71-205-65-72 2.6.20-15-386  #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux12:42
DragnslcrCan't remember if Ubuntu can actually install RPM's directly12:43
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jezus007well12:43
jezus007i need12:43
jezus007the program12:43
jezus007ActivePerl12:43
ardchoilleDragnslcr: it can't. you'd need to use alien but alien is dangerous12:43
jezus007i download ikt from here12:43
jezus007http://www.activestate.com/store/download.aspx?prdGUID=81fbce82-6bd5-49bc-a915-08d58c2648ca12:43
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: have updated your package lists and applied all updates?12:44
jezus007what should i do :s12:44
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Dragnslcrardchoille- I think the only package I've used it on was the software for Lightscribe, and it worked fine12:44
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Yes.12:44
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: what does top show as your top process?12:45
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: init12:46
nosrednaekimdo "alt+esc" or "top" in the terminal.12:46
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: and what percent of the CPU is it using?12:46
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Okay, now it's jumping between ksysguard and xorg12:46
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: xorg is using .7%12:47
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: that sounds normal.12:47
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nosrednaekimok, now I remember the reason that your boot up is slow12:47
nosrednaekimI had the same problem.12:47
nosrednaekimAnd I couldn't fix it.12:47
nosrednaekimdo you still have the edgy CD?12:48
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Yes, I do.12:49
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: The slow boot is caused by it trying to access ata2... whatever that is (probably my burner)12:49
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: you might want to use it.12:49
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: hmm maybe... try unlgging your burner12:49
oslohi12:49
osloi'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool ) (( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))12:49
TheCreationistbrb...12:50
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oslo on XP with VirtualBox it's quite simple, teh drivers are automaticaly installed; on linux it's becoming a headach for me :S12:52
jhutchinsoslo: Search for your specific model and linux.  The manufacturers often don't supply linux drivers and may actively discourage their development.12:54
jhutchinsoslo: This means enough people who are good enough at hacking drivers must have that model phone to test and have the time to build drivers for it.12:54
oslojhutchins> e2831 there is none12:54
jhutchinsoslo: I'm sure if you were to offer to supply a dozen or so phones to the guys who write drivers, you'd get a driver in return.12:55
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osloit's also sells like Accton VM3228T12:55
jhutchinse2831 runs linux...12:56
oslojhutchins> i've mine & the only things i could supply is knowledges & screenshots :p12:56
jhutchinsoslo: Contact the manufacturer.  I'll bet they could help you get it working.12:57
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oslojhutchins> i'll do but how on linux to you mount a usb device like a network card ???12:58
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oslo*do12:58
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starhawkhi01:01
nosrednaekimhi01:01
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zarilionHELP! I just enabled Beryl on my kubuntu but when i did i lost the frames on my windows, no minimize button etc. etc. anyone know how to get it back ?01:01
grultry disabling beryl01:01
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zarilionofc, but i want beryl and the bars :P01:02
mdrI just ditched the old crt moniter and installed a LCD, it seems a bit wavy at certain resolutions.  How do I reconfigure?01:02
starhawkI have gusty kubuntu and the add and remove programs is missing it was there but it seems one of the up dates changed it any ideas how to get it back01:02
grul:)01:02
nosrednaekimzarilion: install beryl-manager01:02
zarilionnosrednaekim: installed.01:03
nosrednaekimzarilion: run it01:03
zarilionnosrednaekim: done :)01:03
nosrednaekimrightclick on its icon->select windwos manager-.kwin01:04
kenroAnyone know if DCnet and Lopster are still running?01:04
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nosrednaekimzarilion: got that?01:06
zarilionif i right click on the icon in the start bar i only get up the Edit stuff..01:06
zarilionim in the settings manager. on window management01:06
starhawkI have gusty kubuntu and the add and remove programs is missing it was there but it seems one of the up dates changed it any ideas how to get it back01:07
kenro!synaptic01:07
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:07
kenro!adept01:08
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:08
kenroOh OK01:08
nosrednaekimzarilion: right click on the beryl icon.01:08
kenroThen why doesn't my copy of Synaptic require gome libs?01:08
zarilionyah01:09
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lookihello what was the command to add the line into x.org that brought the titlebar in beryl?01:09
nosrednaekimaddARGBGLXvisuals?01:09
mdrI just hooked up a LCD monitor.  The Screen Section of xorg.conf still has info on the old CRT monitor. A bunch of sub-sections.  What do I change?  How do I reconfigure?01:09
lookiyes, there was a command to automatically enter it into the file without editing01:10
nosrednaekimzarilion: and you don't get a popup list of beryl options?01:10
starhawkyes but there was a short cut to an add and remove programs in the start menue I liked it because it gave a decription of the programs01:10
zarilionyah01:10
nosrednaekimlooki: IDK, that was probably some nvidia config option01:10
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zarilioni just set it to kwin as window manager01:10
zarilionbut then i lost the "start bar"01:10
nosrednaekimzarilion: did that work?01:10
zarilioni got the frames tho01:10
nosrednaekimthe paneL?01:10
zarilionyah01:11
zarilionahh. there it was01:11
nosrednaekimgot it?01:11
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TrueFXsalut01:11
TrueFXhi01:11
TrueFXi ve got a problem01:11
zarilionbut now the beryl effects is gone :(01:11
TrueFXi ve got 2 hard  drives01:11
mdrIn windows I can set the the resolution to 1152 * 864 but this setting is not available in KDE.  Plus some resolutions appear wavy.01:11
TrueFXon one of which windows is installed and on the other kubuntu01:12
TrueFXi ve installed windows later on01:12
TrueFXhave can i place an entry for that?01:12
TrueFXfor windows operating system01:12
zariliondo i have to restart xserver when i have enabled beryl ?01:12
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TrueFXbefore installing windows i ve plugged off my kubuntu drive01:12
sparrmy desktop, ready to exhibit linux gaming goodness at a lan party this weekend...  http://sparr.homeip.net/desktop.png01:12
nosrednaekimzarilion: no, do you have a nvidia card?01:13
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zarilionyeah01:13
nosrednaekimdid you follow a tutorial for Beryl?01:13
zarilionnah.. just enabled it01:13
zarilionthink i will do that now.. just thought id try it. but needed help to get back the frames ...01:14
nosrednaekimzarilion: go follow a tutorial for beryl and nvidia cards, it'll tell you the way to set it up01:14
nosrednaekimok01:14
zarilionthank you for your kindness nosrednaekim  :)01:14
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nosrednaekimzarilion: no problem.01:14
Ze_Mwhy in kubuntu konqueror toolbars were modified, and speacially to the trap that they are now01:14
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Okay, I'm back... sorry about that.  Remember my problem? ;)01:16
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darkrift411anyone know how i free some ram?01:17
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: indees01:17
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nosrednaekim*indeed01:17
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: did unplugging the CD fix the slow boot?01:18
evsophomore2009Hey where is the trash on Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn01:18
evsophomore2009its not in the corner anymore =/01:18
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darkrift411lol01:19
darkrift411i removed it01:19
darkrift411looked to apple like01:19
darkrift411lol01:19
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Oh, that was your final advice.  :)  I haven't tried that yet.01:19
TheCreationisthang on, I'll restart real quick.01:19
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: you can add a trascan to the toolbar01:19
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: lol01:20
evsophomore2009Nosrednaekim: where is the trash located?01:20
evsophomore2009its not in the K menu, or on the toolbar01:20
evsophomore2009or on the desktop01:20
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evsophomore2009never mind01:21
evsophomore2009got it01:21
osloevsophomore2009> on the kiker, right klick, add an applet ...01:21
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: you can add a trashcan to the tool bar by right clicking on the panel->add palet-trash01:21
oslok01:21
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evsophomore2009is there any way to have Linux have that 3-D looking thing...like CTRL and move the mous?01:22
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evsophomore2009*Mouse01:22
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Jucato!beryl | evsophomore200901:22
ubotuevsophomore2009: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects01:22
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Yep.  THat solved it.  So apparently my cd burner is the "ata2" that dmesg said it had problems with.01:22
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: hmm.01:22
juanfranhola me ayudan con virtualizacion en xen01:22
Jucato!es | juanfran01:22
ubotujuanfran: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:22
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: and I suppose you can't do without yourCD drive?01:22
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Definitely not.01:23
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: I never would have thought that hardware support would be reduced in a new version lol01:24
Ze_Mi dont see any GUI interface for nfs shares01:24
Ze_Mkubuntu doesnt have any_?01:24
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: yeah... well, its the new libata. added to 2.6.1901:25
nosrednaekimthey're still coming up to speed.01:25
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: So what do you suggest I do to get this fixed?01:25
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: go back to edgy.01:26
nosrednaekimI think thats the only way01:27
nosrednaekimtalk to the devs over at #kubuntu-devel01:27
nosrednaekimthey might be able to help01:27
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Okay.  Thank you.01:27
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darkrift411one thing i miss from windows is the taskbar look01:28
JuJuBeeI need to install a simple mail server on my computer that can forward (  I think that is what I  need).01:28
darkrift411wish i could get it without tons of memory use or problems01:28
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DragnslcrJuJuBee- I like Postfix personally01:29
JuJuBeeEasy to configure?01:29
DragnslcrEasier than sendmail01:29
DragnslcrThe docs are good too01:29
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JuJuBeeSeems it is already installed.  Thanks I will read up.01:29
KDEusrcan someone please help me?01:29
KDEusri've just installed kubuntu for the first time. it never asked me to set a root password01:30
KDEusrand i need to be root, and i cant with out knowing the password01:30
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DragnslcrYou shouldn't need to be root for anything01:30
darkrift411anyone know if there is a *very* windows like kicker skin for kde?01:30
JuJuBeeKDEusr : the root account is disabled01:30
DragnslcrIf you need root access, use sudo01:30
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Okay.01:30
darkrift411KDEusr, , my root pass is my main account pass oddly01:30
gnomefreakTheCreationist: what version are you booted to?01:30
KDEusrwell, how can i 7.0401:30
Dragnslcrdarkrift411- not unless you actually set it that way01:31
KDEusri mean its 7.0401:31
darkrift411i created one account when i instaled it, and it used that password as root01:31
KDEusrwell, i need to use drak tools01:31
Dragnslcrdarkrift411- no it doesn't01:31
KDEusrdoes it not have anything drak?01:31
TheCreationistgnomefreak: It's .20-16, I believe.01:31
Dragnslcrsudo takes your user password, not the root password01:31
gnomefreakTheCreationist: that sounds right01:31
darkrift411i c01:31
gnomefreakTheCreationist: you still have -15?01:31
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Yes.  I've tried that one too, though.  Same issue.01:31
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gnomefreakTheCreationist: thats odd, hmmmmm01:31
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Now, since I did an upgrade from Edgy, I still have the really old kernels installed, would those even work now?01:32
gnomefreakTheCreationist: known issue in -16 but -15 should be fine01:32
gnomefreakTheCreationist: you can try the last edgy kernel01:32
KDEusrsee. im a pclinuxos user01:32
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Well, let me double check and try it again.01:32
KDEusri've installed this on machine#3 hopeing to maybe change distros01:32
nosrednaekimgnomefreak: I had that issue with ALL 2.6.20's even other distros01:32
KDEusrbut so far, im not likeing it. im lost inside KDE01:32
nosrednaekimsame libata error01:32
KDEusri need to install my videocard i guess.01:33
KDEusrim tryin to get beryl to work01:33
gnomefreaknosrednaekim: its known in -16 but that was first i heard about it when it landed01:33
gnomefreakKDEusr: #ubuntu-effects for beryl01:33
DragnslcrKDEusr- you can't be an impatient person if you're going to use Beryl01:33
KDEusri really like the adept updater01:33
DragnslcrIt's still somewhat buggy01:34
DragnslcrThough it's being replaced in the near future (merging with Compiz)01:34
nosrednaekimgnomefreak: I just suspend all the time so it never bothers me01:34
nosrednaekimand BTW, i'm sorry for refering him to kubuntu-devel01:35
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Would it be worth restarting with -15?01:35
TheCreationistgnomefreak: I'm sure I've tried it before.01:35
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gnomefreakTheCreationist: try it. there isnt much that can be done till tomorrow the kernel devs are gone for the day01:35
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gnomefreaktomorrow == about 12 hours01:36
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Okay, I'll be right back, then... hopefully in 2 minutes or less ;)01:36
gnomefreakk ill be here for another minute or 301:36
KDEusrberyl works great on this machine.01:36
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KDEusrcompiz turned into beryl. there will be no more compiz01:37
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stanhey, does anyone know how to uninstall daemontools?01:37
KprofthreatLucky you. My Beryl didn't work. No window borders01:37
KDEusrKprofthreat: i can show you how to fix that01:38
gnomefreakcompiz and beryl were separate projects now merging into compcomm01:38
stani mean everytime i rty to do this it gives some error and leaves it as it was...01:38
KprofthreatThat would be great01:38
gnomefreakKDEusr: join #ubuntu-effects to talk about beryl compiz and the alike01:38
sweettoothKprofthreat, what graphics card have you got?01:38
Kprofthreat7600 Nvidia01:38
KDEusrgnomefreak: i do not want to go to that channel. didnt you already suggest it once?01:38
KDEusrya, i have a 7300 gs01:38
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sweettoothand distro?01:39
stananyone?01:39
sweettoothfeisty?01:39
KDEusrkpro01:39
gnomefreakKDEusr: i suggest you join that channel to stay on beryl/compiz topic01:39
darkrift411what do i do to theme the kicker again? been a while since i did that last.01:39
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Hmm... weird.  That worked this time ;)01:39
gnomefreakTheCreationist: any luck?01:39
KDEusrKprofthreat: join this channel and i'll help you get beryl to work correctly01:39
KprofthreatK01:39
KDEusr#Kprofthreat01:39
KprofthreatOh, ok01:40
gnomefreakTheCreationist: thought so, -16 has an issue with hardware detection last i heard 15 was fine01:40
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Any idea when the new kernel comes out?01:40
gnomefreakTheCreationist: for feisty?01:41
TheCreationistgnomefreak: Yeah.01:41
gnomefreakTheCreationist: 2.6.20-* is the only kernel gonna be in feisty01:41
TheCreationistgnomefreak: I mean the bugfix release.01:41
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gnomefreakthey might release a -17 but not sure when01:41
TheCreationistojk01:41
evsophomore2009hey umm how do i add Beryl to startup?01:41
gnomefreakTheCreationist: i havent asked yet but i added it to my to do list01:42
TheCreationistgnomefreak: So my next major issue with Feisty if you feel up to it: I have no sound anymore.01:42
evsophomore2009So when i turn my PC on it turnes on by itseld01:42
gnomefreakevsophomore2009: join #ubuntu-effects01:42
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: whats your sound chipset?01:42
gnomefreakTheCreationist: lol ofcourse you would :(01:42
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: ICH5 (onboard intel)01:42
TheCreationistIt detects my sound card just fine, everything is unmuted, no errors, but no sound.01:42
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: system-settings->sound and audio->hardware->change the device type to Advance LInux Sound Architeture01:44
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: It already is.01:44
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TheCreationisti think... one sec01:44
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Yep, it is.01:44
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romudoghiyaz01:45
romudogCan someone help me with a webcam01:45
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: hmm...01:45
romudogIts not showing up on Kopete01:45
romudognosrednaekim: Hey man :P01:45
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nosrednaekimhey01:45
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: how are you testing sound?01:46
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AaronCampbellWhen I first installed Kubuntu Feisty, I had problems with my wireless network working, but my wired gigabit didn't.  I'm having the same problem again after a power outage 2 days ago...and I can't seem to figure out how I fixed it originally (with help from here)01:47
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Amarok, and the web01:47
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: test it in system settings, sound01:47
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TheCreationistnosrednaekim: Okay... nothing.01:48
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: have to go..01:48
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gruldoes anyone know how to deselect all files in rtorrent? i have a torrent with like 200 files and i only want 10 of them :p01:48
TheCreationistgrul: You can't right-click and choose deselect?01:49
TheCreationistgrul: I know you can with KTorrent.01:49
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grulit's a text based torrent client01:49
grul:)01:49
TheCreationistgrul: oh lol01:49
grulso i can keep it in a screen01:50
grulheh01:50
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gruloh, i got it, the * key01:50
grul:)01:50
romudogCan someone help me with a webcam that isnt showing up in Kopete?01:51
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kenroCan someone help me figure out my mousewheel problem?01:54
darkrift411how do i change the look of the kicker again?01:55
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darkrift411i cant even remember the terms to look for to find kicker skins01:55
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darkrift411kenro, how about trying to set it as a 2 button instead of 301:55
MaTiAzHow to get rid of Katapult?01:55
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darkrift411im no expert, but it could work :)01:56
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kenrodarkrift411, First... Let me varify. Where's that config file at?01:56
darkrift411like i said, im no expert.... couldnt help you there01:56
darkrift411but cant you use the gui?01:57
grulMaTiAz, try using add/remove programs in the start menu01:57
darkrift411id think in settings somewhere01:57
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darkrift411or maybe in your xorg.conf file01:57
kenro /etc/X1101:57
darkrift411i think that file has mouse settings in it01:57
kenro?01:57
darkrift411back it up first01:57
darkrift411yeah, try there01:57
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darkrift411and keep in mind..... im a n00b, so dont put too much into my idea01:58
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darkrift411Option"Emulate3Buttons""true"02:00
darkrift411id change true to false in there02:00
dranasok im trying my upgrade to fiesty02:00
Flaffis kubuntu simply kde version of ubuntu?02:00
darkrift411yes02:01
darkrift411from what i hear adding kde to ubuntu is a disaster02:01
darkrift411so they made one with it in already02:01
Flaffohh02:01
Flaffso if i want kde, do kubuntu and not modify ubuntu :P02:01
MaTiAzyeah02:02
kenroNot so much 'disaster', I think, just those with little experience dealing with dependency hell thought it was.02:02
darkrift411q: every time i run a gui app from the konsole, i get this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16902:03
darkrift411with a bunch more lines.... anyone know what device 169 is?02:03
kenroMe, I cut my unix teeth on FreeBSD.02:03
darkrift411me too02:03
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darkrift411thru putty02:03
darkrift411i ran a few irc networks and they all ran on freebsd02:03
kenroI'm saying raw. Native.02:03
MaTiAzKubuntu is the only distro that has been working awesome on my setup :)02:04
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darkrift411id played around very few times before when i was younger, but that was the most id done02:04
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darkrift411i was at work last night02:04
darkrift411opened cmd from start menu and typed "ls"02:04
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darkrift411and was dumbfounded when it said bad command for filename (lol)02:04
kenroabout 15 months running my own BSD system.02:04
MaTiAzWhat are the biggest differences between Linux and BSD?02:05
kenrokernel02:05
darkrift411i havent seen many02:05
Flaffthanks guys, installing kubuntu for the first time now ^^02:05
kenrofor the true differences, you'd hafta delve kernel internals. I haven't needed to do so.02:06
MaTiAzOk02:06
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kenroAnd after 9 years using computers, I still type the same slowwas way. :)02:07
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darkrift411is there a way to get kde 4 on kubuntu?02:09
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kenroWait a few months, or go through a Masters' Degree comp sci program.02:10
AaronCampbellWhen I first installed Kubuntu Feisty, I had problems with my wireless network working, but my wired gigabit didn't.  I'm having the same problem again after a power outage 2 days ago...and I can't seem to figure out how I fixed it originally (with help from here)02:10
AaronCampbellI'm wondering if a recent update of some sort could have caused it, and it took effect after the restart?02:10
kenrokde4 is for coders.02:10
Flaffmakes sense...im looking for the best alternative to windows xp/vista right now... and so far im impressed with (k)ubuntu... if i want to focus more on the internals, i would probably use another distro.02:10
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BdonohueHey all. Any of you have any clue how to get Kubuntu to boot off of a flash drive? I've got it mostly figured out, think I got syslinux installed but no go02:11
kenroFlaff, eh... I've noticed I;m using internals so much less often in Linux than BSD. I see your point. )02:12
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darkrift411nevermind....02:13
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kenroAnd I think I'll just get a real mouse. That should solve my wheel problem.02:14
AaronCampbellI do see in my system log "eth0: no IPv6 routers present" ...might I need to change something wrt that?02:15
kenroBut I still don't know about my bootlog inkage problem.02:15
kenroAaronCampbell,  Wireless networking?02:15
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jmb90can anybody tell me how to set up kubuntu like this dude did in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVIgOBVO5gA02:20
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jmb90why hello thar?02:21
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spheardanyone know a good netword animation applet02:23
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Flaffjmb90, what part of the video?02:24
jmb90all of it02:24
Flaffis that the right link?02:24
Flaffit is a music video02:24
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Flafflol02:25
jmb90oops, try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc02:25
Flaff??02:25
Flaffanother music video02:25
Jucatojmb90: stop spamming music videos02:26
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jmb90nop02:26
darkrift411damnit im going nuts here!@02:26
darkrift411nobody here knows how to theme the kicker?02:26
AaronCampbellkenro: my wireless works...my wired does not02:27
darkrift411point me to a keyword or a url or something02:27
darkrift411lol02:27
Jucatodarkrift411: what do you mean by "theme kicker"?02:27
darkrift411i want a more windows like "taskbar"02:27
darkrift411solid, 3d, black..... (vista look)02:28
darkrift411flat is giving me a headache02:28
darkrift411but i cant remember where to change it, or where to get new skins02:28
jmb90steve jobs pwns ubuntu02:28
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Jucatoyou can put an image kicker background: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance02:28
Jucatoget skins probably at http://www.kde-look.org02:29
kenroAaronCampbell,  I trust you know about dhclient...02:29
darkrift411what would they be called on there?02:29
darkrift411ive searched, and cant find anything (ive found them before on my old laptop)02:29
Jucatocan't really say. never tried searching02:29
AaronCampbellkenro: no02:30
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jmb90http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+kill+a+jew&btnG=Google+Search might help02:30
kenroAaronCampbell,  Try dhclient -v02:31
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AaronCampbellv 3.0.4 and it gives some usage02:31
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kenroAaronCampbell,  Cool. sudo ifconfig02:32
AaronCampbellNow, I'm trying to set it up as a static IP (although dhcp isn't working either)02:32
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kenroAaronCampbell,  No. sudo ifconfig02:32
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AaronCampbellkenro: what do you want from ifconfig?02:33
BdonohueHey, anyone know anything about shoehorning Kubuntu onto a flash drive?02:33
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kenroAaronCampbell,  Just see what it says.02:33
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compilerwriterbdonohue My brother-in-law found a web site and did it.  Try googling for such a thing.  You will probably be able to find the same site he did.02:34
BdonohueLol, I've gotten as far as it booting.02:34
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BdonohueIt boots and finds vmlinuz and initrd but then it stops02:35
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AaronCampbellIt says a lot.  addr: 192.168.2.1 (this is right) RX Packets: 40 TX packets: 0  RX Bytes: 4260 TX Bytes: 002:35
kenroBdonohue,  Flashdrive isn't finding the whole filesystem/02:35
kenro?02:35
BdonohueHmm02:36
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BdonohueBecause it's all on the flash drive.02:36
kenroAaronCampbell, OK. dhclient eth002:36
BdonohueAnd it boots to the live CD menu.02:36
kenroBdonohue, OK02:36
BdonohueSays loading, then leaves me on a blank screen with a flashing white curosr.02:36
compilerwriterDid you repartition the flash drive bdonohue.  It should have two partitions on it if memory serves correctly.02:36
BdonohueIt doesn't have to. One is just for saving data.02:36
compilerwriterbdonohue the one for saving data also saves much needed data that is created during boot up.  If it doesn02:37
BdonohueWell where does the LiveCD save that data then?02:37
AaronCampbellkenro: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801  Then listening...Sending... No DHCPOFFERS received02:37
compilerwriterhave the partition it is looking for it could totally flop02:37
compilerwriterbdonohue the live cd creates a ram drive.02:37
BdonohueYeah, and this should too. I haven't changed anything else.02:38
kenroAaronCampbell,  ///you sure this is your default ethernet driver?02:38
BdonohueAll it is pretty much is using all the files that are on the disc and using syslinux instead of isolinux to get'er going.02:38
BdonohueThanks for at least attempting to help though too, I have to add compilerwriter... Ubuntu is useless, lmao.02:39
Bdonohue#Ubuntu*02:39
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compilerwriterthey tend to be a bit dilletantish over there bdonohue.  Don't take it personally.02:40
AaronCampbellkenro: eth0 has been my default, yes.  eth1 is disabled, as is the wireless.  I tried enabling and testing eth1...but I get the same problems....02:40
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AaronCampbellwireless will connect, but it's so SLOW02:40
kenroAaronCampbell,  What's wmaster0?02:40
AaronCampbellno idea02:40
AaronCampbellI think it's part of the wireless, gets a similar icon in Network Settings02:41
Bdonohuedilletantish?02:41
AaronCampbellAnd when I enable wireless (wlan0), it enables...when I disable it, it disables02:41
kenroAaronCampbell,  In that case, sorry I couldn't help. Try resetting the drivers.02:42
darkrift411Jucato, if you get a botserv bot in here, you wont need to op up to kick someone, just use !kb name02:42
darkrift411if you are on access list and are identified you dont need to be op to use that command02:42
BdonohueJucato: If you are an op, why don't you just stay op?02:43
Jucatodarkrift411: that's not how we do things in here02:43
JucatoBdonohue: ^^^02:43
darkrift411heh02:43
darkrift411old ways for the sake of antichange02:43
AaronCampbellkenro: thanks, and I'm not sure how02:43
darkrift411its all over02:44
evsophomore2009everyone im lost and confused. and there isnt anyone on #ubuntu-effects02:44
darkrift411i am too evsophomore2009 , someone will eventually help you02:44
darkrift411just a matter of time in here :)02:44
Jucatothere are people there. you just have to wait a bit. not everyone can be available at all times02:45
BdonohueOh.02:45
Jucatothat's how IRC support works02:45
BdonohueAnyone have any clue how I can get ahold of say Era or Boo?02:45
Jucatowhat are those?02:46
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kenroAaronCampbell,  Whoa Nelly! Gutsy still includes modconf. You might try that.02:50
jeroenvrphow to manually install a deb-file with adept?02:50
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hagabakajeroenvrp: don't know with adept, but you can use dpkg -i. gdebi does it better by automatically satisfying dependencies02:52
jeroenvrphagabaka: thats what I know, but I like to install it directly from firefox02:53
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BdonohueJust tried it on another machiine, still no go.02:53
jeroenvrpallthoug kpackage can do it, I want adept, so indeed it will solve the dependencies02:53
hagabakayou can register a file handler to gdebi02:53
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hagabakaadept probably will not install a standalone deb file02:54
jeroenvrpoh well, kpackage will do also good02:54
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hagabakadoes kpackage install dependent packages?02:54
jeroenvrp no02:55
jeroenvrpbut the debs I installl normally dont need that02:55
jeroenvrpI have to go02:55
jeroenvrpcheers02:55
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kenrooops02:58
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Small_Machelp, kpdf doesn't have any printer in its list of print options, i only see print to fax, print to pdf, etc, i configured my printer and i can print from open office as default, thx03:02
Jucatocan you print from other KDE apps? (open office isn't a kde app)03:03
Small_Maco, like what, i'm kinda new with this, don't know what u mean by kde apps =)03:04
BenPAthe only pdf program that works for me is ... xpdf03:04
Small_Machmm is that through apt-get as well03:05
JucatoSmall_Mac: Kate for example03:06
BenPAyes03:06
Small_Mack will check that03:06
Small_MacJucato no i can't =(03:06
JucatoSmall_Mac: then it means you didn't set up printing properly for KDE. how did you set up the printer?03:07
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Small_MacJucato: i went to start menu -> system -> HPLIP toolbox (printer toolbox) -> then automatic setup03:08
Small_MacJucato my printer is a hp deskjet 515003:08
Small_Macthx03:08
JucatoSmall_Mac: try K Menu -> System Settings -> Printer03:08
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BdonohueThis is hard.03:09
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BdonohueI can't believe how much I've learned though, haha.03:09
BdonohueIt's fun.03:09
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CS5Hi all, I am EXTREME Kubuntu and linux noob who would appreciate the answers to a few questions if someone has the time...Please.03:14
BdonohueI think for the time being, I'm going to return to my quest for changing colours :P03:14
sharkfacecan someone help me get my printer working? it is on a windows system that i am networked to. i installed samba and i downloaded the driver03:14
BdonohueWhat printer?03:14
sharkfacethe printer shows up in the queue but nothing prints03:14
sharkfacehp pcs 217503:14
sharkfaceim pretty sure i need to fix something in CUPS but i cannot find anything sufficient on any forums03:15
CS5Do things function differently between the live dvd and the actual installed os? IE. Sound, Mounting hdd, etc.?03:15
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sharkfaceim not sure where to go from here03:15
CS5275 users and NO help?03:16
CS5lol03:16
DragnslcrCS5- in theory, no. Some devices might work [better]  after installing drivers for them03:16
CS5ty03:16
CS5I am on live dvd and not getting any sound and am unable to mount my ntfs drive03:17
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CS5any ideas?03:17
CS5drives*03:17
CS5sry03:17
CS5no remotes either03:17
DragnslcrCheck KMix to make sure all of the sound outputs are enabled03:17
DragnslcrIf you're using digital output, you also need to check alsamixer03:17
CS5all green03:18
sharkfacedoes anyone know how to configure CUPS?03:18
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CS5any thoughts on the mounting? this normal?03:19
upstairsWhen I try to boot up my computer, when trying to load to kdm (or there abouts) it locks up.  If I wait a while in a terminal it shows that "assuming drive cache write through" and "rejecting i/o to dead device?03:19
darkrift411i hot ctrl+esc to kill ark, but i dont have priv's, how do i open taht app with privs?03:21
darkrift411hot = hit03:21
BdonohueAw crap. I had a cherry pit in my mouth and I'm on my bed and it fell out and I can't find it.03:22
CS5lol03:22
BdonohueFound it.03:22
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CS5anyone maybe have a suggestion on a channel that might be more helpful for a noob like me?03:23
fabianhi03:23
CS5hi03:23
mneptokCS5: how are you trying to mount them?03:23
fabianhay algun latinoamericano03:23
mneptok!es > fabian03:24
fabiansi o no?03:24
CS5tried through konqueror03:24
CS5and03:24
CS5lol forget the name 1 moment03:24
mneptok!es | fabian03:24
ubotufabian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:24
CS5and through system menu03:25
CS5storage devices03:25
CS5mount03:25
mneptokCS5: what is your username in Ubuntu?03:25
Bdonohue!usb | Bdonohue03:25
CS5default03:25
mneptok?03:25
CS5no session other than the original live session03:26
mneptokyou chose the username "default?"03:26
mneptokoh, it's live03:26
CS5just has ubuntu :Default then other tty 1 tty2, etc.03:26
CS5yes03:26
mneptoksudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/some/device/there /media/ntfsdrive03:27
mneptokyou'll need to know the /dev entry of your ntfs drive03:28
CS5thats the hdc103:28
CS5?03:28
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kflexhelp anyone?03:32
mneptoksudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/ntfsdrive03:33
CS5in konsole i must be doing something wrong i get mkdir cannot create /media/ntfsdrive':file exists and error03:34
CS5mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab03:34
CS5Please check that the device is plugged correctly.03:34
CS5when i mount03:34
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kflexi mounted a usb floppy drive but i can't see where it is. help nyone, pleas?03:34
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kflexi need help03:37
mneptoksudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/ntfsdrive03:37
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CS5Could not mount device.03:37
CS5The reported error was:03:37
CS5mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab03:37
mneptokkflex: df -h03:37
kflexmneptok: what is df -h?03:38
mneptokkflex: df = disk free03:39
JSquatNeither 'adept' nor 'aptitude' are able to install packages.03:39
mneptok-h = show in human readable numbers03:39
JSquatAny help? I03:39
JSquat'll get specific error message now.03:39
mneptokCS5: are you *sure* it's hdc1?03:40
CS5yes it is mounted ty03:40
CS5do i have to do that with each everytime?03:40
CS5and if i instal can i do it once and never again?lol ty again03:41
kflexmneptok: thanks.03:41
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JSquat"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."03:42
JSquatdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/avaliable' near line 1: field name `' must be followed by colon03:43
kflexwhy i can't see the usb floppy drive? where can i browse it?03:44
CS5lol, now when i try to enter the mounted volume i get this error Could not enter folder /media/ntfsdrive.03:44
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mneptokJSquat: dpkg --configure -a03:44
JSquatmneptok: same output03:45
mneptokCS5: sudo chmod 777 /media/ntfsdrive03:45
JSquatpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:03:45
JSquat field name `' must be followed by colon03:45
CS5still no go  sudo chmod 777 /media/ntfsdrive03:47
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CS5read-only filesystem03:48
fnordperfectQt: 3.3.703:48
fnordperfectKDE: 3.5.703:48
fnordperfectkde-config: 1.003:48
fnordperfectRandom Fortune: Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Environment. -- seen in a posting in comp.software.testing03:49
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JSquatproblem arose after running either 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' to remove eclipse and another package. the tools were run because 'kdesu' (or whatever the tool is) much like 'sudo', fails to gain root privilages.03:49
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CS5if I started fresh instal on clean partitions should i go all ext3 fs?03:50
mneptokyes03:50
KprofthreatHey. I'm having a problem with my sound. I had it earlier, now it's gone again. My sound IS on alsa, I checked alsamixer. Nothing's muted, I think. Any ideas, anyone?03:50
JSquatmneptok: any ideas?03:50
CS5and would i be able to store all my other files in this type of fs? like avis and stuff?03:50
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fnordperfect(oh damn, did this stuff really got sent *into* the channel?? sorry guys.. )03:51
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darkrift411hrmmmm03:52
mneptokJSquat: clean apt's cache?03:52
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KprHey. I'm having a problem with my sound. I had it earlier, now it's gone again. My sound IS on alsa, I checked alsamixer. Nothing's muted, I think. Any ideas, anyone?03:53
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JSquatalright. nevermind. i think i fixed it. did a cat /var/lib/dpkg/available-old >/var/lib/dpkg/available03:54
JSquatmneptok: i fear using apt and other tools now. the last thing i need is a reinstall of anything on this machine and either aptitude or some other tool, broke the file.03:55
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JSquatthanks for the help though. risked and fixed.03:55
sharkfacecan someone help me with my printer03:56
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KprSharkface, what's your printer model?03:57
sharkfacehp pcs 217503:58
Kpr!doesntwork | sharkface03:58
ubotusharkface: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:58
sharkfacewell its on a windows computer im networked to.03:58
sharkfacei installed samba03:58
sharkfaceand the printer will show up in the queue03:58
sharkfacejust nothing happens03:58
sharkfacei think its an issue with cups or CIFS or something03:58
sharkfaceived searched all over google and forums03:59
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BdonohueMy uhm mother doesn't work.04:00
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Kpr!dontyell bdonohue04:01
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Bdonohue!dontyell | Bdonohue04:01
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BdonohueThat one doesn't work ;)04:01
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sharkfacedoes anyone know what i can do to fix the problem?04:02
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BdonohueHm, I'm not too up on the printers as mine just randomly worked.04:02
sharkfaceim pretty sure the issue is getting it to work over the network04:02
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dranashello ppls04:06
dranasi got a question04:06
CS5me too04:07
dranasi just upgraded to fiesty04:07
CS5me too04:07
dranasand like my wireless is being a whore04:07
dranasit sees the device04:07
dranassees netowrks04:07
dranasbut, doesnt wanna connect04:07
CS5right key?04:07
dranasyes04:07
dranasit says configureing device and stops ar 28%04:08
hitmanWillydranas: nah, if it really was a whore, it'd connect to every network in sight :P04:08
dranaslmao04:08
CS5normally id say sometimes changing the channel its on helps if theres more than one network around but i am having a fu&* of a time myself04:08
CS5thats good willy04:08
dranasleast i still got mp3 support04:09
CS5lol04:09
dranasand my printer works04:09
CS5im workin on it04:09
os2macdoes anyone have an idea of when Thunderbird 2.0 will be available in the repositories?04:09
dranasi hate canon printers...04:09
CS5me too04:09
dranasbut i got one for free04:09
CS5i hate microsoft more though04:09
dranasso i was like what the hell04:09
dranasyes04:09
dranasi hate windows, i like x box04:09
CS5id take it too04:09
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CS5oh yeah04:09
hitmanWillydranas: are you doing this through knetwork manager, or via cmd line?04:10
dranasknetwork04:10
hitmanWillydranas, ok, lemme fire up my lappy and try to see if i can help04:10
dranasokies thanks04:11
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intelikey        can anyone illuminate this for me ?    "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  ???    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )04:13
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dranasBLARG DAMNIT04:14
dranas.....i just noticed this kernel isnt using my dual core porperly04:14
dranas.....04:14
dranas....BLARG04:14
hitmanWillydranas: what brand/model?04:15
dranascore 2 duo04:15
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dranasits not using the generic kernel or something04:15
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hitmanWillydranas: from what i understand, those aren't completely supported yet04:16
dranasnuuuuu04:16
dranassudo apt-get install linux-image-generic so this wouldnt work this time?04:16
abaquerisomeone could help with amule?04:16
abaquerigday04:16
hitmanWillydranas: also, it could just be that the second core scales down when its not being used, im not to up on those...04:17
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dranaswell does fiesty use a generic core like edgy did?04:17
hitmanWillydranas: yup04:17
dranasok mine isnt using it04:17
dranasso that command should give me the other kernel correct?04:17
hitmanWillywtf? yeah, it should04:17
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dranas.....y do i think i need to fix grub04:18
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dranaswhere would i find the menu.lst?04:19
hitmanWillydranas: /boot/grub/04:19
dranasty kindly04:19
dranaslet me reboot i shall return shortly04:20
hitmanWillydranas: k04:20
BdonohueAnimals in #ubuntu. ANIMALS.04:22
hitmanWillylol04:22
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BdonohueHey hitmanWilly: You don't have any experience with using a flash drive as the LiveCD medium do you?04:23
BdonohueAs in booting the liveCD from there?04:23
dranaswhee04:23
dranasyes dual core power04:23
os2mac!thunderbird04:24
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042704:24
dranasim going to attempt to see if my wireless is working so i may end up getting kicked04:24
Bdonohue!firefox04:25
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:25
hitmanWilly!info thunderbird04:25
ubotuPackage thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:25
BdonohueIt's mozilla-thunderbird04:25
hitmanWilly!info mozilla-thunderbird04:25
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB04:25
Bdonohue:)04:25
hitmanWillyi knew that :P04:25
hitmanWillynope, still 1.504:25
BdonohueI can't believe the crap I learned today trying to get Feisty to boot from the liveCD.04:25
dranasok04:25
hitmanWillydranas: seems to be working :)04:26
BdonohueLike I can't believe how well it doing something is to teaching you.04:26
dranasno04:26
dranasthis is my wired04:26
hitmanWillyk04:26
dranasit stops at the activation stage04:26
BdonohueTake out your disc.04:26
BdonohueTake out any discs and reboot.04:26
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BdonohueThat was my problem.04:27
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BdonohueIf I booted the system with a disc inserted, my wireless wouldn't work.04:27
hitmanWillydranas: what interface does it use, ie eth(x)04:27
BdonohueIf I removed the disc and restarted, it worked.04:27
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dranaswlan004:27
hitmanWillyBdonohue: there's an interesting bug...04:27
BdonohueAnd I know it sounds silly dranas, but try it.04:27
BdonohueUnless you don't hvae any discs in.04:27
dranasummm04:28
dranaswhat?04:28
BdonohueDo you have a disc in the drive right now?04:28
dranasoh no i didnt use a live cd04:28
BdonohueI mean do you have ANY disc in the drive?04:28
dranasi just upgraded from edgy to fiesty04:28
dranasyes a music cd04:28
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BdonohueTake it out.04:28
dranasok04:28
BdonohueAnd reboot.04:28
BdonohueThen try.04:28
hitmanWillydranas: ok, do you know the name (ESSID) of the network you are trying to connect to?04:29
dranasi just put it in though04:29
dranasyes04:29
BdonohueOh, okay. I thought you had it in when you booted.04:29
BdonohuehitmanWilly: It definitely is, I'm using an Atheros card and HAL doesn't like it for some reason.04:29
BdonohuehitmanWilly: ANY disc... A movie, music, Ubuntu, blank even.04:30
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NickPrestaQuick question - I have two on-board Ethernet ports. I am connected to the internet via one of them. When the computer boots up, both eth2 and eth3 are enabled although only one is in use. I have to manually go into System Settings and guess which is the "real" one. It changes randomly upon reboot and I don't know how to fix this. Any ideas on what to search for or where to start looking?04:31
hitmanWillyBdonohue: did you file it via launchpad?04:31
mneptokNickPresta: /etc/network/interfaces04:31
hitmanWillydranas: gimme a minute, reaquainting myself with cmd line wireless config :)04:31
dranasoki04:32
BdonohueNope.04:32
dranasdo you think it could be a conflict between knetwork manager an the wireless lan assistant?04:33
NickPrestamneptok, this appears for both eth2 and eth3: "iface eth2/3 inet static". eth2/3 are not mentioned anywhere else.04:33
BdonohueHm... Dranas, have you installed network-manager?04:33
BdonohueIt has a KDE part to it as well.04:33
BdonohueBut it's the same base.04:34
BdonohueThe one with the roaming.04:34
dranask network manager?04:34
BdonohueProbably.04:34
BdonohueI'm not sure, I'm back to Gnome again.04:34
dranasyeah it installed itself04:34
BdonohueOkay.04:34
darkrift411lol04:34
BdonohueWhat are you loling about?04:34
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dranasi ike music, if it wasnt for music, id probably break this computer04:35
bankseyHey guys, I jus installed UnRAR from adept, But when I try and extract a file, It wont let me enter a password, Anyone know how to do this. Any help would be much approcated :)04:36
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BrianDonohueThere we go.04:36
BrianDonohueBetter than BDonohue.04:36
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dranasi wish i wouldve waited a few weeks to buy my dell04:37
dwidmannhow lovely ...  plasterdust everywhere04:37
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BrianDonohueWOOOSHHHHH, that's all it'll take to make a bigger mess.04:37
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dwidmannBrianDonohue: oh, I get to continue on what I started tomorrow, so yeah, it'll be a bigger mess for sure04:38
dwidmannPretty much the entire upstairs less my brothers bedroom is covered now, times like this that I wish I had a laptop ... then i wouldn't be in this room right now04:39
BrianDonohueThat's why I bought mine.04:39
dranason klaptop wtf does ondemand mean?04:39
BrianDonohueSo far it's been the ideal linux laptop, other than the silly CD + Wireless bug.04:39
BrianDonohueHm, not sure, dranas.04:39
BrianDonohueGuess I shouldn't answer.04:40
dwidmanncourse, the discouraging factor is that I have to get a wireless router to make this theory work :(04:40
hitmanWillyok, i've forgotten all my wireless cmd line stuff...not good :(04:40
dranasoi04:40
BrianDonohueLol, it's still fresh in my mind.04:40
BrianDonohueWhat's the problem again?04:40
dranassudo ifconfig wla0 up doesnt work either04:40
dranasmy wireless lan connection04:40
dranasit sees the deivce04:40
dranasit sees the netowkr04:40
stdiniwconfig for setting access point etc.04:40
BrianDonohueUhm...04:40
BrianDonohuerun this04:41
BrianDonohuesudo dhclient04:41
dranasbut stops at 28% at the config stage04:41
BrianDonohueThat always seems to associate for me.04:41
BrianDonohueIt probably can't grab an IP.04:41
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intelikeyanyone?   "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )04:42
BrianDonohueanyone what?04:42
dranasdidnt work04:42
BrianDonohueWhat the heck are you trying to do?04:42
BrianDonohueNot you, dranas.04:42
BrianDonohueLol.04:42
BrianDonohueHmm, that's a weird problem.04:42
BrianDonohueAre you using native drivers or ndiswrapper?04:42
dranasndiswrapper04:42
BrianDonohueOh.04:42
BrianDonohueShitty deal.04:43
BrianDonohueI mean.04:43
BrianDonohueUh oh.04:43
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dranasshould i just do a clean install of ndis?04:43
stdinintelikey: maybe it was trying to check /proc/mounts to see if /dev/root is mounted but /proc wasn't mounted yet?04:43
BrianDonohueHm yeah...04:43
BrianDonohueWell, you know what you could try?04:43
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dranaswat04:43
BrianDonohueIt's proprietary but it works.04:43
jhutchinsdranas: Try eliminating the GUI and do it all from console.04:43
BrianDonohueDriverloader.04:43
dranasive tried04:43
intelikeystdin but what was doing it ?04:43
dranasdrverload?04:43
BrianDonohueAnd if it works, then you know that ndiswrapper will work.04:43
dranasi tired cmd line04:43
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jhutchinsndiswrapper broke for me on the last upgrade.04:43
BrianDonohueIf it doesn't, then something else is messed.04:43
BrianDonohueAlso, make sure you compile ndiswrapper from source.04:44
dranaswtf is driver loader?04:44
jhutchinsI ended up with a new NIC (and a new distro).04:44
BrianDonohueIt's by Lucent.04:44
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AutoMatriXhi folks04:44
dranaslemme try fresh install of ndis04:44
BrianDonohueI had to use it a while back when I was too noob to figure out how to use the broadcom fwcutter crap.04:44
stdinintelikey: looks like maybe it's part of e2fsck04:44
BrianDonohueDranas: Compile it from source.04:44
dranasmaybe fiesty installed its messed upversion04:44
dranasi will04:44
BrianDonohueUninstall the packages and use the source version.04:44
BrianDonohueOkay.04:44
stdinintelikey: as it's appears right before the fsck messages04:44
jhutchinsdranas: some of the chipsets have two "firmware" files, a "driver loader" and the actual firmware.  Each one has to be loaded by ndiswrapper.  If ndiswrapper sticks at the first one, it won't work.  That's what happened to me.04:45
intelikeystdin why would e2fsck be ran from the initrd.img ?04:45
dranasive had to do that like 3 times i remember it04:45
intelikeystdin err yes wait let me look at something.04:45
jhutchinsndiswrapper is a bit of a mess right now, last I looked the primary source for the firmware files was offline, and the new kernel stuff didn't want to work with the older firmware files.04:46
BrianDonohuedranas: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/04:46
BrianDonohueThat's a last ditch.04:46
hitmanWillyintelikey: i think its set up that way to do a quick eroor check prior to mounting +rw04:46
BrianDonohueThey give you a 30 day trial, but if it works there it'll work in ndis.04:46
dsmith_Question: Does xmms play mp3s by default?04:46
intelikeyhitmanWilly i set it up.04:46
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jhutchinsdsmith_: You need the w32codecs.04:46
stdindsmith_: nothing plays mp3s by default04:47
hitmanWillyintelikey: ok, nm :)04:47
dranasthe hell04:47
BrianDonohuedsmith_: No you don't.04:47
BrianDonohueIt works out of the box.04:47
dranasif i remove ndis 109 mbs will be freed up04:47
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dsmith_the codecs are installed it says04:47
jhutchinsstdin: mplayer will, there's another one that has it's own dmuxers independent of the codecs.04:47
BrianDonohueIt should just play them. mplayer will and so will xmms04:47
hitmanWillyvlc i think...04:47
stdinjhutchins: yeah, I started thinking about it after i hit enter :p04:47
BrianDonohueThat's what I used to do when I had the old Ubuntu's and wanted songs was just installed xmms.04:47
jhutchinsdsmith_: 32 or 64b?04:47
intelikeyas best i can tell modules.sh is throwing the message.04:48
dsmith_3204:48
BrianDonohuedranas: Did you get that link in case?04:48
dsmith_I get this xmms message04:48
jhutchins!mpe | dsmith_04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
jhutchins!mp3 | dsmith_04:48
intelikeylet me add some debugginh and test it.04:48
ubotudsmith_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:48
BrianDonohueWhat's the error, dsmith_?04:48
marcus__Hi. I have an interesting problem. Whenever I try to lauch some progs: beryl, sk, amarok, etc I have to us?ually launch them a second time to get them to start. Any idea why04:48
intelikeybrb04:49
BrianDonohuemarcus__ I had that problem too for a while, then it just magically disappeared.04:49
BrianDonohueIt seems to me that a lot in Linux is magic.04:49
jhutchinsmarcus__: Is this an ubuntu install upgraded to kubuntu?04:49
dranaswhat if i unblack list the natyive drivers?04:49
marcus__jhutchins: no but i have ubuntu in a different partition.04:49
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jhutchinsmarcus__: Teh kubntu knoez! It sensez teh evil!04:50
marcus__jhutchins: hehehe04:50
marcus__The other thing is that kubuntu when it installed bogarted both my swap partitions.04:51
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jhutchinsSwap should be universal in linux, most distros will use any swap they find automatically.04:51
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dsmith_BrianDonohue: It says "Please check that: YOur soundcard is configured properly and that you have the correct output plugin selected. NO tother program is blocking the sondcard" I fiddled with some settings and its not playinng04:51
marcus__Okay, so that isnt unusual.04:51
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BrianDonohueHm.04:52
BrianDonohueHold on.04:52
BrianDonohueI don't even have XMMS instaleld.04:52
jhutchinsmarcus__: Try starting the programs from a console, see what they do.04:52
dsmith_amarok wont start either for some strange reason04:52
BrianDonohueWhat version of ubuntu are you using anyway?04:52
marcus__jhutchins: okay sec04:52
dsmith_Fiesty04:52
marcus__jhutchins: came up fine in konsole. Hmmm stranger and stranger04:53
BrianDonohueI mean't marcus__04:53
BrianDonohueHaha\04:53
marcus__BrianDonohue: 7.04 on both04:54
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BrianDafkOh.04:54
jhutchinsmarcus__: Hrm.  menu problems are a b10tch.04:54
BrianDafkUhm... Yeah, let jhutchins help, I've got a phone call.04:54
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marcus__jhutchins: Wonder if I should just rebuild the menu?04:55
jhutchinsUm, I'm actually just passing through...  I'll drop back in if I think of anything.04:55
jhutchinsmarcus__: couldn't hurt.04:55
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marcus__jhutchins: Thanks.04:55
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michaelmcgeecan someone help me with a ndiswrapper problem for kubuntu x64 (modprobe issue)05:00
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intelikeyok.   that error is from this command.   "/sbin/e2fsck -p /dev/root"05:00
BrianD-AFKWhat's wrong michaelmcgee?05:00
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intelikeyyou were correct.  about the source.  now  what does "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  mean ?   is it looking for ext2fs_check_if_mount  or is that a system call in the e2fsck command ?05:02
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intelikey@ stdin05:02
michaelmcgeebrian- i try to install netgear wg311v3 on kubuntu x64 with ndiswrapper and it works up to the point where it says hardware present but when i run the command modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens(i mean that cant enter commands after it)05:02
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michaelmcgeethe next  blah blah#   line doesnt show up05:02
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intelikeybut cap ?05:03
stdinintelikey: i would say that it's the call that's failed05:03
intelikeyyou don't have a file by that name do you ?05:04
intelikeyext2fs_check_if_mount05:04
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stdinnope05:04
dsmith_wtf sound is working now from shoutcast via streamtuner... damn Tux magic heh05:05
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stdinintelikey: I still think that it was probably looking in /proc for 'mounts' and /proc wasn't mounted yet05:05
intelikeyok then... hmmm.   i'll try mounting /proc prior to that stage and see what it yelds05:05
dsmith_I did have citrix client open from work05:05
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intelikeywhat's the command line for mounting proc ?05:06
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intelikeymount none /proc -t proc  ?05:06
michaelmcgeecan someone help me with a ndiswrapper problem in kubuntu x64 (modprobe issue)05:07
stdinintelikey: mount proc /proc -t proc05:07
intelikeyyeah just tested  none works as well05:07
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Dr_willisi recall that mounting proc stuff from the GENTOO install docs. :)05:08
Dr_willisand /dev05:08
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Dr_willisright befor ya chrooted to the dir to root to  things   :) Old-skool!05:08
intelikeyyeah mount /dev/null /proc -t proc   works too05:08
dwidmannFailing to remember that you could have always just added it to the fstab and ran mount -a of course. (yeah yeah, I tak the lazy way out sometimes ...)05:09
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intelikeydwidmann not in a startup script that is about to fsck /  you don't want to mount -a05:09
dwidmannintelikey: hehe, yeah, probably not.05:10
intelikeyback in a few.  testing now.05:10
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dranasyay it works05:12
dranasi reinstalled ndsi and now its all good05:12
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michaelmcgeei need help with ndiswrapper        modprobe05:13
rathelHow would I make a script to backup a folder into an archive, and I run it every so often and it only Overwrites the changed files in the archive? Would tar cjf --backup=simple do the job?05:14
intelikeyok that cleared that up.   now the only anomily is in the initrd.img  and i don't know if i want to tackel that or not....05:14
intelikey end result   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3756305:14
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intelikeyrathel no. that would overwrite the whole file05:15
intelikeyrathel but tar does have an incrimental switch05:15
rathelintelikey: Okay.. I guess I could go that way, I was hoping you could just sync it like you can do with RAR.05:17
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intelikey!info kitchensync05:17
ubotukitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 823 kB, installed size 2468 kB05:17
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wolferineso each time I edit a file with nano, not as sudo, i get 'Error reading /home/user/.nano_history: Permission denied', why is nano setup that way?05:21
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Dr_williswolferine,  just remove the file then?05:23
wolferineremove it?05:23
stdinwolferine: just chown it05:23
wolferinei can fix it05:23
wolferineim asking why its that way05:23
stdinwolferine: sudo chown $(whoami) ~/.nano_history05:24
wolferinegood god05:24
stdinnot sure why exactly05:24
Dr_willisI dont use nano.   file a bug report perhaps.05:24
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stdinmaybe if you run nano as root the 1st time it creates the file as root05:25
Dr_willissee who owns the file.  see if its a owner issue. or a permission issue.05:25
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wolferineyeah05:25
wolferinecould be that05:25
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stdinpermissions should be "-rw-------" (600) and owned by the user05:26
wolferineyeah05:26
wolferineit is05:26
roni_hey05:26
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intelikeywolferine short answer to your Q, because you probably did something like sudo sh  and ran nano one time.   it's a permissions error05:28
Slyronyo05:28
wolferineyeah05:29
wolferineso what stdin said05:29
wolferinewhich makes sense05:29
intelikeywolferine so to avoid such  don't     sudo *sh    or   sudo su    but rather use   sudo -i  or  sudo su -    which will put you in full "root" environment including home dir.05:30
wolferinesudo -i?05:31
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wolferinehavent used that before05:31
stdinman sudo <- learn something new :)05:31
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wolferinealwready on it :)05:31
wolferineyou wraskely wabbit05:32
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intelikey</fud>05:32
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wolferineso sudo su - does cd ~ too?05:32
intelikeysu -     is good.05:33
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wolferineso sudo will cd ~ into /home/user?05:33
wolferinei mean sudo su05:34
intelikeytest it05:34
wolferinei think I just might :P05:34
wolferinebut your distracting me from bash scripting :P05:34
intelikeybut just   sudo su  will not  do any 'cd'  and that's the major point.05:34
fyrmedicIs there a good way to use the live cd to recover and backup a windoze partition before I wipe it out with a clean install of kubuntu05:35
intelikeywolferine you bash'n ?05:35
wolferinelearning05:35
intelikeyfyrmedic depending on the type of backup you have in mind.   several options are at your disposal05:36
intelikeywolferine i'm sure you already knew about the  pwd  command too.05:37
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wolferineof course05:38
fyrmedicintelikey; I want to mount the ntfs drive, backup documents and files that were created in XP to CD then install kubuntu instead of windows.05:38
intelikeyfyrmedic that should be about a point and click manuvior05:39
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Sly_Roninhello?05:39
intelikeyroni05:39
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Sly_Roninintelikey?05:40
fyrmedicintelikey; even using the live cd?05:40
intelikeyfyrmedic errrr only one cd drive ?05:40
fyrmedicinelikey; yeah05:40
intelikeyeeeek05:40
fyrmedicyeah05:40
intelikeywell not so simple then.05:40
Sly_Roninlinux probs?05:40
fyrmedicintelikey: what about networking the backup? that should be even easier05:41
intelikeyfyrmedic easiest way would be boot that other os and backup your stuffff05:41
Sly_Ronindo you guys know where I can find a solid listing of IRC channels?05:42
Sly_Roninabout any and all shit05:42
intelikeyfyrmedic yeah network would be pretty easy05:42
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intelikeySly_Ronin /list   but i don't think you want that05:42
fyrmedicintelikey; that other os crashed. hence the backup before switching to the right os05:42
OrgulloKmoorehow can I change the screen resolution? It seems like it should be easy, but I don't figure it out. Everything's tiny05:42
stdin!resolution05:43
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:43
intelikeyfyrmedic yeah konqueror should make backing up on a network simple if you have an nfs place to put them05:43
intelikeystdin what would you sujest for the net backup from a live CD  ?05:44
stdinmy preference is to use ssh, but that's mostly linux-to-linux05:45
OrgulloKmoorestdin> there is no fun GUI way to do it? (In Windows you right click the desktop and move the little slider over)05:45
BrianDonohue!fr05:45
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:45
stdinOrgulloKmoore: you never used fish:// ?05:45
OrgulloKmoorestdin> I have, but I don't know what that has to do with screen resolution...05:45
intelikeyyeah rsync no doubt.05:46
stdinOrgulloKmoore: oh, the screen res :p05:46
stdinOrgulloKmoore: System Settings -> Display05:46
fyrmedicthanks guys I'll play with it for awhile.05:46
OrgulloKmoorestdin> that doesn't exist for me..there is no display option there05:46
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stdinOrgulloKmoore: monitor & display ?05:47
OrgulloKmooreAbout me, regional and language, accessibility, default application, appearance, desktop, splash screen, window behavior, notifications, date and time, keyboard and mouse, sound system, printers, network settings, sharing, bluetooth05:48
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stdinthat dapper then?05:49
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intelikeyeven dapper has a way to change rez in the kmenu05:49
OrgulloKmoorestdin> it used to be...but I recently updated in a very ghetto way and now everything's messed up05:49
stdinsystem settings changed a bit from dapper -> edgy -> feisty05:50
OrgulloKmooreupgraded*05:50
intelikeyand the upgrade may have not brought in all the newer "stuff"05:50
OrgulloKmooreis there a way to reinstall the control center or whatever it's called?05:50
OrgulloKmooreor bring in more new stuff...05:51
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intelikeyyou can reinstall any package that dpkg has installed05:51
stdinOrgulloKmoore: tye in kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Monitor & Display05:51
Nukedhow do I get kde programs to show up properly in other wm's (themewise)05:51
michaelmcgeecan anybody help me with kubuntu x64 ndiswrapper?05:51
intelikeybut i would sujest remove and reinstall kubuntu-desktop  should pull in all the newities05:52
OrgulloKmoorestdin> nope, there is no "Monitor and Display"05:52
Nukedany Ideas?05:52
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intelikeyNuked which other wm ?     not that i'll be able to help...05:53
OrgulloKmoorehmm...so nothing?05:53
OrgulloKmoorelol...we have more problems than solutions05:53
Nukedsomething like enlightenment dr 17 or fvwm-crystal05:53
intelikey<intelikey> but i would sujest... @ OrgulloKmoore05:54
Nukedpretty much all programs work05:54
OrgulloKmooreoh, ok, gotcha, intelikey05:54
Nukedqt apps just dont show up themed05:54
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OrgulloKmooreyeah, that makes sense, cuz I installed and upgraded ubuntu-desktop last time05:55
intelikeyNuked hmm   idk.   i use blackbox some and never noticed anything odd about qt apps.05:55
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intelikey</shrugs>   (and goes off to fight dragons or something)05:56
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OrgulloKmooreintelikey> that worked :)06:00
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OrgulloKmoorenow...how can I get more keyboard layouts?06:00
OrgulloKmoorebefore I had them, but now for some reason I only have American and British English available06:01
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OrgulloKmoore(and I want Latin American Spanish and Quebec French)06:01
intelikeyapt-cache search language-pack-kde | less06:02
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OrgulloKmooreintelikey> those seem to be translations of the documentation and whatnot rather than the actual keyboard layout, no?06:04
OrgulloKmooreI want to be able to type jalapeno, pinata, and resume correctly, for example06:05
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KprofthreatCan I get someone's assistance? I'm having a sound issue with Kubuntu 7.04 Everything on ALSA, checked alsamixer, speakers ARE plugged in, don't ask, and I even tried compiling a new driver. I AM using an audigy soundcard. Any suggestions?06:05
intelikeyOrgulloKmoore ummm i think they will pull in the others as deps     but not sure06:05
OrgulloKmooremm...they don't06:06
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OrgulloKmoorebefore I had a long list of layouts to choose from...06:06
OrgulloKmooreit's strange06:06
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intelikeyOrgulloKmoore not strange. just change.   locales   search locales06:07
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intelikey!sound | Kprofthreat if it is worth anything there is a wiki page...06:08
ubotuKprofthreat if it is worth anything there is a wiki page...: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:08
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rathelHow do I run nice without sudoing?06:21
savetheWorldrun it only on procs you own.06:22
rathelSo I have to sudo when running it with wine than?06:23
stdinwhy are you running wine with sudo then?06:23
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rathelI'm not.06:24
stdinthen you don't need sudo to set a new level for wine06:24
rathelThan I think I'm doing it wrong..06:25
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dranashey i got a question im trying to install xmame06:25
dranasafter i do sudo make06:26
dranasthen do sudo make install this is what i get06:26
dranasInstalling binaries under /usr/local/bin...06:26
dranas/usr/bin/install -d -o root -g bin -m  755 /usr/local/bin06:26
dranas/usr/bin/install -c -o root -g bin -m  555 xmame.x11 /usr/local/bin06:26
dranas/usr/bin/install: cannot stat `xmame.x11': No such file or directory06:26
dranasmake: *** [doinstall]  Error 106:26
stdindranas: xmame is in the repos06:26
dranaswhen  i install it from the repo i cant seem to get it to open06:27
rathelI keep getting Permission denied, what am I doing wrong?06:27
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dranasok so how am i supposed to run xmame then?06:34
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rathelnice -n -15 wxvlc comes back with "Permission Denied" what am I doing wrong?07:01
intelikeyrathel too high nice value ?07:01
intelikeyusers can only go to -10  no ?07:02
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rathelintelikey: I don't know, every other value I try I get the same result.07:02
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Rictoo_how would I see how many files are in a folder07:03
intelikeyerrr and try vlc07:03
Rictoo_and how would I see the size of a folder? (all from shell)07:03
intelikeyRictoo_ ls | wc -l07:03
intelikeysize  du07:03
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Rictoo_thanks intelikey07:04
rathelWhat do you mean "and try vlc"?07:04
intelikeyrathel in place of wxvlc07:04
Rictoo_intelikey: size du doesn't work07:04
Rictoo_:\07:04
dranashow do i use xmame?07:04
Rictoo_size: 'du': No such file07:05
rathelintelikey: aw same result.07:05
Rictoo_I want to check the size of a FOLDER07:05
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linuksoidhi all07:05
intelikeyfor size use:  du07:05
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marcus__!fonts07:10
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:10
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intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3756607:18
intelikey[ "some test" ]     <<< is  a ligitimate test   heh oh well....07:19
intelikeyi would have thought it would fail07:19
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stdinintelikey: I think that's the same as [ -n "some test" ] 07:20
DaSkreechIs there a way to get notified in KDE if someone starts shutting down the machine ?07:21
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Ash-FoxGah, I need to get a bug tracker for my personal projects07:21
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intelikeystrike seven07:26
intelikeyso anybody know how to read the RTC ?07:27
intelikeyreal time clock07:27
DaSkreechAsh-Fox: Install bugzilla07:28
DaSkreechNot that hard07:28
stdinintelikey: hwclock07:28
intelikeystdin is --utc and --localtime  the same thing ?07:30
stdinintelikey: no07:30
intelikeyah wait.  localtime is the utc  and utc is the local time    how convoluted can you get...07:31
stdinlocaltime will be + or - UTC07:31
intelikeynope.07:31
intelikeylocaltime is the utc07:32
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intelikeybut --utc (which i had be trying to get real utc 'the RTC actual time)  the converted local time.07:33
stdinUTC = Coordinated Universal Time07:33
intelikeynot correct.07:33
intelikeyi'll paste bin it07:33
stdinwell, it's supposed to be07:33
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3756707:34
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intelikeyand i'm not in the utc time zone.07:34
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stdinunless the system thinks that the clock is set to local time zone but is actually set to utc07:35
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intelikeyas you see the --localtime switch will display what ever the RTC actually says  and then  --utc is the localtime07:36
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stdinyeah, that just makes tons of sense tho :p07:36
intelikeystdin :)07:36
intelikeywell i did tzconfig and use the correct settings for my locale07:37
intelikeydate  displays correctly07:37
stdinwell just remember now, that up is down and left is right. and you'll be set :)07:38
intelikeyright   lol07:38
intelikeyi mean left07:38
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stdinyep :)07:38
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intelikeythere was this file /etc/adjtime   did it have anything to do with that ?07:39
intelikeycause it kept messing up the RTC07:39
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stdindon't know enough about it to say07:40
stdinbut it could do07:40
intelikeyi could have everything setup and syncronized   then run an update on the clock and it would set the RTC to unreasonable times...07:40
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FarrisGCan anyone explain to me how to set it up so that I don't have to type my password to use knetworkmanager everytime I login?07:42
intelikeynot even the same :mm   i mean unreasonable    like 4hours 33 minutes off  and just kept getting worse.   so i   ln -s /dev/null /etc/adjtime   and now the RTC stays set correctly07:42
DaSkreechFarrisG: Does it ask you to use KDEwallet?07:43
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intelikeyFarrisG you can edit /etc/sudoers   (use visudo)  and give your self NOPASSWD permission on that command.07:43
DaSkreechFarrisG: Wireless?07:44
FarrisGDaSkreech: It asked me about the wallet the first time, but not ever again.07:44
FarrisGintelikey: No thanks :)07:44
stdinintelikey: i think it uses kwallet to store the encryption key (wep/wpa*)07:44
FarrisGDaSkreech: Yes, wireless. And wep, not wpa07:44
intelikeya line something like this.    yourname ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/knetworkmanager*07:44
DaSkreechFarrisG: If you use a empty password for kwallet then it won't prompt you for the key again07:44
intelikeystdin not kdesu asking ?07:46
intelikeyi missed that.07:46
stdinintelikey: no, kwallet, just checked07:46
FarrisGDaSkreech: Thanks, I'll do that for now. But is there anyway to just not use kwallet for it? I actually like to use kwallet for other things, and it's sort of useless without a password07:47
DaSkreechFarrisG: sure put in a password if you lilke07:47
stdinFarrisG: don't use knetworkmanager and it won't use kwallet07:48
DaSkreechFarrisG: it will ask you for the password everytime you jump on the wireless07:48
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stdinFarrisG: you can put the settings in to the network part of system settings (if you don't use other access points much)07:49
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DaSkreechAnyone uses Digikam?07:49
intelikeyi use killall too much for it to not be installed,  what package provides it ?07:50
intelikeypsmisc ?07:51
DaSkreech!find killall07:51
ubotuFile killall found in kde4sdk, kdesdk-scripts, librapi2-tools, psmisc, util-vserver (and 2 others)07:51
stdinintelikey: probably sysvutils07:51
DaSkreech!info psmisc07:52
ubotupsmisc: Utilities that use the proc filesystem. In component main, is standard. Version 22.3-1build1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 456 kB07:52
stdinintelikey: opps, that's killall5, not killall07:52
intelikeyprocps ?07:52
stdinpsmisc has killall, procps has pgrep and pkill07:53
intelikeyk psmisc it is07:53
intelikeyty07:53
stdinprocps has ps too07:54
intelikeyhmmmm well i have ps  but not killall07:54
intelikeyhave kill and killall507:55
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stdinpsmisc is what you want then07:55
intelikeyyeah fuser and killall   that's it.07:56
intelikeypstree    :)07:56
intelikeyhmmmm in dash there is no $UID07:58
stdinhmm, what's /usr/bin/oldfusr ?07:58
intelikey?07:58
intelikeysymlink ?07:58
qiqiteliarpok tammarnerk KDE?07:58
stdinthere's /bin/fuser and /usr/bin/oldfuser in psmisc07:59
intelikeylet me look in the dapper package07:59
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intelikeywell it sure is...    idk what that is08:01
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underdog5004oh man, the more time I spend learning about linux, the more I love it!08:02
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intelikeyi didn't see anything in the change log about it either08:03
intelikeymatthew  :)08:04
underdog5004yes?08:04
intelikeywhat's got you so excited ?08:04
underdog5004lol, rdiff-backup, ssh-login-with-keys, and scripting08:05
underdog5004I love it!08:05
intelikeyoh all the normal stuff     yeah....08:05
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underdog5004ooooh...there goes my noobie pride, he he he08:05
intelikey:)08:05
intelikeysorry08:05
underdog5004oh...and I'm surprised you remembered my name...haven't been on in a month or so...08:05
underdog5004lol08:05
intelikeywell i should confess.    "bx"08:06
underdog5004bx08:06
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underdog5004bx?08:06
intelikey-:- underdog5004 [n=matthew@adsl-76-236-67-32.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net]  has joined #kubuntu  your join/part messages are in the same window that you talk in.  in bx  "bitchx"08:07
stdinsame in konversation08:07
intelikeyi didn't have to remember.08:07
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underdog5004huh08:07
stdinbut I know your last name too ;)08:07
intelikeyMatthew Wennerholm  <<< that one ?08:08
underdog5004yeah...08:08
underdog5004that one08:08
underdog5004bet you don't know my sisters name!08:09
intelikeyyou don't have a sister !08:09
underdog5004whoa...08:09
underdog5004actually, I have 3...08:09
underdog5004so...on to other things...08:09
intelikeyoh well    i tried.08:09
stdinyes, you don't have 'a' sister, you have 3 :)08:10
underdog5004oooh, you're good..08:10
stdinhehe08:10
underdog5004so, what's up w/ you guys? Any new developments?08:10
underdog5004seems pretty slow tonight, huh?08:10
intelikeyyeah.   just kicking around some code actueally08:11
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3756808:11
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intelikeyconverted it to full posix compliance08:11
underdog5004*examines code with practiced eye*08:11
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underdog5004is there a way to limit bandwidth with scp transfers?08:12
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raymani dont know08:12
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stdinnot with scp itself  afaik08:12
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intelikeyif you called that "do_nothing" for example: do_nothing 02 1208:13
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intelikeyoperador: do_nothing 1 6408:13
underdog5004stdin, another method, perhaps?08:13
intelikeyor:08:13
stdinunderdog5004: there is software you can install to limit your banwidth usage, but it's not exactly a 5min job08:14
intelikeytraffic shappers08:14
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underdog5004yeah...I was hoping for some kind of flag...you know... scp... -u 200 -d 500, but oh well08:15
stdin(which is in the SVN version of konversation now )08:15
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underdog5004that would be so nice...when I do big transfers from my server to desktop or vice versa, my desktop _really_ slows down08:15
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underdog5004intelikey, call me ignorant, but what does that code do?08:16
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stdinunderdog5004: there is the simple file sharing applet for kde, that lets you limit bandwidth08:16
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underdog5004oooh, that sounds promising08:17
stdin"public file server"08:17
underdog5004ftp?08:17
underdog5004or sftp?08:17
stdinit's just a simple http server08:17
intelikeyoh timyurl  heh i moded that to a shell script for the command line  :)08:17
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stdinlets you share a folder over http08:17
underdog5004stdin, gotcha08:17
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3756908:17
ksivajihi stdin08:18
underdog5004*examines code with practiced eye*08:18
[Al] chemist_exis it very easy to get compiz runnin on kubuntu feisty?08:18
ksivaji!compiz08:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:19
underdog5004[Al] chemist_ex, hmm, I don't know...beryl and compiz merging seems to say to me "just wait for the dust to settle"08:19
stdinintelikey: you should probably get rid of the other dcop part too :p08:19
stdinhey ksivaji08:19
stdin[Al] chemist_ex: it's easier to get beryl working08:19
[Al] chemist_exyeah I figured.  Compiz Fusion looks pretty cool.08:19
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[Al] chemist_exI had it workin', but I hate gnome and beryl always crashed after awhile in kde.08:20
stdinintelikey: and the "PORT=$1 ; SERVER=$2 ; TARGET=$3" part08:20
intelikeystdin yeah  but it works as is.  http://tinyurl.com/yochmu08:20
intelikeythat's proof ^08:20
stdinintelikey: http://tinyurl.com/2lmn3b08:20
stdinmine too ^ :)08:20
intelikey:)08:21
stdinI want to be able to put a message in there too tho, like "name: some message TinyURL"08:22
stdinstill working on that part08:22
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underdog5004anyone have any problems with kubuntu ?08:26
intelikeypreceed the $(    like  "Title: $var $(curl...08:27
stdinyeah08:27
stdinit won't make me coffee08:27
underdog5004mine makes coffee, but no cream or sugar...08:27
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intelikeyunderdog5004 yes. i have lots of problems with it.    too much automatic crap.08:27
daleHello08:27
underdog5004intelikey, lemme guess, you're a gentoo man?08:28
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intelikeyunderdog5004 no.08:28
intelikeystdin http://tinyurl.com/2q4jtq08:28
underdog5004oh, ok, what's you're linux of choice?08:29
Daisuke_Idolinux?08:29
Daisuke_Idohah!08:29
Daisuke_Idothis is a plan 9 man08:29
intelikey:)08:29
underdog5004whoa...you're using plan 9?08:29
intelikeyglenna ?08:29
underdog5004I read a bit about it...everything is a...filesystem?08:29
underdog5004right?08:30
stdinintelikey: it needs to work with dcop and has to be backward compatible too, as in, it has to work as "/tinyurl URL" and "/tinyurl URL name"08:30
stdinunderdog5004: no, everthing is a file08:30
intelikeystdin doesn't need dcop for command line use08:30
stdinintelikey: no, but does need it to work (well) with konvi08:31
underdog5004isn't it the same in linux?08:31
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stdinunderdog5004: filesystem != file08:31
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underdog5004no, I know08:31
underdog5004*sigh* now I sound ignorant/arrogant, not a good combo08:31
intelikeystdin yes     we are shooting different geese08:32
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stdinintelikey: it's only because 1) it's what I use :) and 2) it's going to be in the next konvi release too08:33
intelikeyoh my you have ran my timmer up to 142 minutes now.08:33
stdinunderdog5004: btw :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system08:33
intelikeyif i go over 170 minutes this week i'll remove the web browser08:33
underdog5004lol, I'm reading the article on Plan 9 now08:33
stdinUptime: 4 days, 22 hours and 22 minutes08:34
underdog5004I know the difference between files and the filesystem.08:34
intelikeyunderdog5004 i dont actually use plan 9   i have before,  but not in a while.08:34
stdin(on a laptop)08:34
underdog5004seems hard to use at home, as it's a distributed OS...but if you've got a few computers at home...08:34
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intelikeymy web browser has ran 142 minutes in the last 4 days.08:37
intelikeybut that's more than X08:38
stdinwhat browser you using?08:38
intelikeyelinks08:38
stdinooh, my favourite (non X) browser08:39
intelikeyand i forget to close it...08:39
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intelikeygo off and chat and do other things while it stairs at a pastebin....08:39
stdinjust make a cron job "killall elinks" to run every 5 mins :p08:39
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intelikeyand it would go off just as the page loads about half the time....08:40
stdinok, 10 mins08:40
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intelikeythat still wouldn't keep it from killing it 10 seconds after i open it.08:41
intelikeya warper would be better than a cron job08:41
stdinor just Ctrl-Z before you switch to another term08:42
intelikeystdin maybe you know an easy way to do what i was testing earlier,   howto run something in the background or another tty and use it's exit code in the forground  while the script does other things ???08:43
stdinhmm, I've never needed to do that08:44
stdinand, therefore, have no clue08:44
stdinI don't even know if that's possible08:44
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intelikeyintelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd208:44
intelikeyintelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd208:45
intelikeynick completion....08:45
intelikeylike:08:45
intelikeybut that syntax errors      i'm not sure why08:45
stdinshould you have that ; before } ?08:46
intelikeyi think it has to be there...  i'll test it a little and get back to you08:46
intelikeythat or newline08:47
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stdinit'll be difficult to get an exit code from an proc in another tty (not so sure about a bg'd proc), as it's ran in another shell08:48
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underdog5004good night08:52
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Zero1328I was thinking of installing Kubuntu along with XP after I format my hard drive in the near future, but now I'm not so sure on it.. could someone give me advice on what to do?08:57
Zero1328The main issue is that I have a fair number of PC games so I'd either have to have XP or Wine..08:58
ksivajiZero1328 what is u r problem08:59
ksivajiyou want dual boot08:59
Zero1328whether to change to a dual-boot Kubuntu/XP or just stick to XP..08:59
intelikeyjust stick to xp09:00
ksivajiZero1328 that is upto you09:00
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intelikeybut read the EULA first09:00
ksivajihi  epimeth09:00
Zero1328yeah, obviously it's up to me. I'm trying to get advice on what to pick09:00
epimethhi ksivaji, intelikey09:00
intelikeyepimeth shalom09:00
ksivajiZero1328 i will suggest u to have dual boot09:01
epimethshalom, shalom09:01
intelikeyZero1328 just stick to xp    but read the EULA first   all od it.09:02
ksivajiZero1328 because if xp got failed means linux will help you ? right09:02
intelikeys/od/of/09:02
ksivajiintelikey is there anyone who read EULA ?09:02
Zero1328ok, neither of you are really helping much09:03
intelikeyi did.  and quit using M$09:03
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intelikeyksivaji figured if that's what it took for me to see the light.....09:03
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ksivajiZero1328 what else you need ?09:04
se7ensomebody know how to get nv or even nvidia driver working on the new 8600m gt (acer aspire 5920)09:04
ksivajiintelikey i am poor in English  so use easy words ok09:04
Zero1328I'm just trying to figure out the better choice and you're saying opposing things09:04
intelikeyksivaji ok.09:05
ksivajiZero1328 each one will have diff opinion right09:05
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ksivajiZero1328 i feel comfortable with dual boot that is why i told you09:06
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intelikeyse7en is the hardware supported ?09:08
intelikey!nv | se7en09:08
ubotuse7en: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:08
grul!ntfs09:09
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:09
grul!ntfs-3g09:09
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:09
se7enintelikey: i guess not because i can only use vesa driver09:09
se7enas soon as i change to nv i get a black screen09:10
intelikeyse7en hmmm  well my nvidia card is not supported with propritary drivers  but it will work with the nv driver09:10
se7enits the santa rosa chipset so i guess i have to wait09:11
intelikeyse7en make sure that a sane modeline is used   sometimes i have trubble switching from vesa to other drivers without configuring the xorg.conf correctly for the monitor09:12
intelikeynot all monitors support the same things...  and it can cause 'oops's09:13
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intelikeydoesn't often.  but can.09:13
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se7enok i will try but i have done that a couple of times befor on other computers and it worked09:13
intelikeyyeah it's just a thought.09:14
intelikeyeven a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then09:14
se7enthanks anyway :)09:15
intelikey:)09:15
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dranasellos09:18
intelikey 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  909:18
dranashmmm?09:18
dranasanyone on?09:19
intelikeypretty quiet this hour.09:19
dranashey09:20
Zero1328Well it's very early morning in the USA, if I assume the majority originate there09:20
dranasi got a question, maybe you can figure it out09:20
intelikeymaybe09:20
dranasi installed xmame from the repos, but, how do i get it to work?09:21
intelikeyman xmame    ?09:21
dranasyes xmame09:21
intelikeyno, did you read the documentation     man xmame09:21
dranaswhere do i find it?09:21
dranasor better yet, does kxmame work?09:22
intelikeyyou type that commeand     man xmame09:22
intelikeycommand09:22
intelikeyi've never messed with either of them.09:22
dranasok what exactly is a front end09:22
Zero1328hey ksivaji, you dual boot, right? how are your partitions set out?09:22
intelikeybut the man pages are always a good start09:22
dranassomething like a gui for something right?09:23
nullkuhl guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?09:23
dranascause kxmame is a front end for xmame, but everytime i go to install it it makes me uninstall xmame09:23
ksivajiZero1328 yes09:23
ksivajiZero1328 i installed windwos first09:24
intelikeydranas a frontend would be an application that uses 'blah' as it's backend   that is to say   that app1 is started and calls app2 to do actual work and then displays the result in app1      app1 being a frontend and app2 being a backend09:24
nullkuhl guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?09:24
dranasok so kxmame would need xmame to work correct?09:24
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intelikeyyep09:24
dranaswell everytime i go to install kxmame from the repos it makes me uninstall xmame09:25
dranasand vice versa09:25
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dranasand im like ahhhh09:25
intelikeydranas then kxmame is not a frontend for xmame  and they then are conflicting packages09:25
ksivajiZero1328 the i installed  kubuntu there is a option which will allow u to resize the existing ntfs or fat partition and create one ext3 partition ok09:26
dranasbut it says its a front end for it09:26
dranasand it actually looks for it to run09:26
intelikeydranas then it's a broken package.   and you should file a bug on it09:26
dranasbut which one is broken do you think?09:26
dranasboth?09:26
intelikeydranas probably both09:27
stdinxmame-x isn't the backend, it the frontend09:27
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dranasummm09:27
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dranasok its the front end eh?09:27
dranasA KDE frontend for xmame/xmess emulator. Based on gxmame plus many new features:09:28
dranasthats what kxmame is09:28
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stdinxmame-x and kxmame are both frontends09:28
dranasthen.....blarg09:28
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stdinxmame-sdl is the backend i think09:28
dranasoi09:28
intelikeyif they both require removal of the other, and one is a frontend to the other; then i'd have to say both packages were broken.   (logic test)09:29
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stdinxmame isn't a package, it's a progect name09:29
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stdinit's just bad naming and descriptions09:29
intelikeystdin and that was without the -x  on xmame  if that even exists...   so don't call me on the information i had.09:29
stdin!info xmame09:30
ubotuPackage xmame does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:30
dranasok so, then....omg09:30
intelikeyah the nomanclature of GNU/linux09:30
dranasthis is makin my  head hurt lol09:30
stdin!info xmame-x09:30
ubotuxmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10241 kB, installed size 37724 kB09:30
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stdin!info xmame-sdl09:30
ubotuxmame-sdl: SDL binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10180 kB, installed size 37524 kB09:30
dranasok so what exactly do i need to use mame09:30
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stdinget kxmame for a kde GUI09:31
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intelikeyand you'll need some mames09:31
intelikey:)09:31
dranaslol09:31
dranasok09:31
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dranasok i get kxmame09:32
dranasok its gotten09:32
stdinor get xmess :)09:32
dranasBLAHHH09:32
stdin!info xmess-x09:32
ubotuxmess-x: X binaries for the Multi Emulator Super System. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 3936 kB, installed size 13776 kB09:32
dranas>.>09:32
intelikey!info xmame-svga09:32
ubotuxmame-svga: SVGALIB binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10183 kB, installed size 37536 kB09:32
stdinboth are mostly the same, and kxmame works with both09:33
intelikeystdin i could use that in the console ^09:33
dranasok should i uninstall xmame?09:33
stdinintelikey: yeah, sdl only works on X09:33
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dranasok ima delete xmame09:33
intelikeyyeah but svga works in the console09:33
stdindranas: just install kxmame, it will (un)install everything it needs09:34
stdinintelikey: exactly09:34
stdinintelikey: then find some good dos games to play :P09:34
dranasi got roms09:34
dranasfrom my old windows pc09:34
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intelikeygood dos games   isn't that an oximoron ?09:35
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Ayabaraanyone using kubuntu and a dual monitor setup?09:36
stdinit's like "stable windows applications"09:36
dranasummmm do you know where it installed xmess?09:36
intelikey!dualhead09:36
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama09:36
stdinthe sentence is just all wrong09:36
nullkuhlguys pls help am tryin to modprobe the bluetooth headset module but failing :09:36
nullkuhl sudo modprobe snd-bt-sco09:36
nullkuhlPassword:09:36
nullkuhlFATAL: Error inserting snd_bt_sco (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/snd-bt-sco.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)09:36
intelikey"fastest windows ever"     translation   M$ has pulled the biggest con job yet.09:37
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dranaslmao09:38
nullkuhlHELLO09:38
stdinif no one answers, no one knows09:38
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stdinnullkuhl: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:39
intelikey!bluetooth09:39
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:39
intelikeyah same09:39
nullkuhlstdin: my problem is not with bluetooth its with the headset bluetooth09:39
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nullkuhlconnecting09:39
dranasgrr09:40
dranasgrrrr09:40
wiilloowkkeebbordd nnoott  ddoi  whaat  it sshouldd09:40
dranasgrar09:40
dranasclose a window09:40
dranaslol09:40
stdinnullkuhl: the page has links for gettings audio to work with it09:40
dranasumm about roms09:40
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dranasshould i take them outta their zip files and put them in something else?09:40
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dranasRAR09:40
nullkuhli saw it , the page is empty09:40
Ayabaraintelikey: was that for me? I have dual head working, but I have some problems with focus. When I move the mouse pointer over to the other monitor, I want to focus to move there as well. Also, when I exit some applications, the focus suddenly jumps to the other monitor...09:40
wiilloowhelp  wwith  keeyybboaardd09:40
nullkuhli already know abt this guide u know09:40
dranaspour more water on it09:41
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dranasshould i convert my zipped from files to tar.bz?09:41
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intelikeyAyabara ah that i wouldn't know about.09:41
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intelikeysorry09:42
stdindranas: why?09:42
Ayabaraintelikey: too bad :-)09:42
dranasKxmame could not create a device option for the selected rom "tmnt.zip" for the system "ABC 80".09:42
dranasThis error is usually due to either this system doesn't need a rom (bios only mode), or the file is not a valid rom for this system, or it is in a format that kxmame or xmess doesn't understand.09:42
dranasHow would you like09:42
intelikeybut if you want to script it....09:42
intelikey:)09:42
wiilloowaannyy  onnee  geettinngg  tthesee  mmeessssaageess??09:42
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dranasyes09:42
dranashow many windows do you got open?09:42
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dranasi had that happen to me before09:43
wiilloowhhooww  ddoo  ii  ffiixx  tthhe  kkeeyyss!109:43
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dranasit was typing in two windows at once09:43
dranasclose all your windows, or reboot09:43
dranasthat should fix it i think09:43
stdindranas: try extracting the zip file09:43
intelikeywiilloow i've heard of mouse trails  but keyboard trailessssssss09:43
dranasthen i get a bunch of files, is that a good thing?09:43
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stdindranas: I don't know, never ran xmame09:44
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wiilloowttry  itt  itss  a  paainn09:44
intelikeyi can imagine.09:44
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dranasim using xmess09:44
dranasi think09:44
Zero1328hm, I think the last concern I have with installing kubuntu would be drivers, but I haven't looked for documentation on that yet09:44
intelikeycan you drop to a console and see if it's at the kernel level or the xorg level wiilloow09:44
dranastttrrrrryyyyyy rrrreeeboooottttiiinnnnnngggg09:44
wiilloowi tried  tthe  key  bboaard setings  to  ssttopp  the  keey  deelaay  thatt  ssett  up  noww  i've  ggot this  prroblem!109:45
stdindranas: xmess/xmame same thing09:45
dranasok09:45
dranashmmm09:45
intelikeyok that answered me Q.09:45
intelikeyso it's kde.   you can kill x  and clean out ~/.kde09:46
intelikeycrude but affective09:46
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Jucatodo you mind telling him the side effects of deleting ~/.kde09:46
wiilloowgot it Whaahoo!09:46
dranasyour computer melts09:46
intelikeyi didn't say delete ~/.kde   i said clean it out/up.09:47
dranasok mme 32 dont work either09:47
dranashow nice09:47
Jucatothat could be interpreted as deleting as well09:47
dranasmame09:47
dranasno delete is delete09:47
dranasclean out is like putting things back to defaults i think09:48
intelikeyJucato yeah. either way it'll fix his keyboard09:48
stdindeleting ~/.kde makes Matthias Ettrich shed a single tear09:48
dranaslmao09:48
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dranaseh09:48
dranasgo play in a freeway09:49
intelikeyand who is rms ?09:49
stdinintelikey: "KDE was founded in 1996 by Matthias Ettrich, who was then a student at the Eberhard Karls University of Tbingen."09:49
dranasmmhmmm09:49
dranasgo him09:49
dranasim asuming its a him09:49
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dranaswith my luck today its a chick09:49
stdingeek + founder of KDE = guy09:50
dranasy, cant i ever get these damned mame emulators to work09:50
dranaslmao09:50
dranasBLARG09:50
intelikeystdin abso-poso-lutely09:50
stdinbesides, if he was a woman, konqi would be pink not green09:51
intelikey:)09:51
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dranasi unno maybe she likes the color of money09:51
Jucato(Katie, Konqi's girlfriend, is green, too)09:52
intelikeyyeah and RMS who dranas09:52
dranasooo09:52
dranasi cant get no satisfaction09:53
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intelikeymembers of the green dragon club ?09:54
dranaswaaa i hate this09:54
dranasi cant even get quake to work09:54
dranasblarg09:54
dranaslucky i got a ps2 for games09:54
dranas...my wife is playing in the litter box....09:54
dranaswtf is wrong in my life?09:54
intelikeylol09:54
bassedranas: sounds pretty bad yes09:55
dranasomg09:55
dranasnow she wants me to smell the box09:56
dranasatleast my wireless works09:56
dranasand my system didnt melt when i upgraded to fiesty09:56
dranashmmm09:56
intelikeylol09:57
darkrift411how do i make it so win+e opens a file explorer09:58
darkrift411anyone know?09:58
Jucato.09:58
dranaswinefile?09:58
darkrift411sry to sound soo demanding the way i asked09:58
darkrift411no09:58
darkrift411konqerer09:58
darkrift411or whatever it is09:58
darkrift411i wish i had a better file explorer though09:58
darkrift411more like windows explorer09:58
dranasso what do you want?09:58
Jucatoyes you have. it's called "Konqueror" :)09:58
dranaswine to open a file explorer?09:58
darkrift411no09:58
intelikeydarkrift411 ?09:59
Jucatodranas: win+e = Win key + the letter E09:59
darkrift411i want to know how to make win+e open konqueror09:59
darkrift411yes09:59
darkrift411ty09:59
bassedarkrift411: just make shortcut in menueditor09:59
darkrift411slightly intoxicated, couldnt think how to say it09:59
dranasmagic09:59
darkrift411how do i do that basse ?09:59
bassedarkrift411: for exameple, right click on K-menu button and open menueditor10:00
intelikeydarkrift411 khotkeys10:00
dranasfirst you rols a d20 and summon a level 5 ice dragon10:00
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darkrift411lol10:00
bassedarkrift411: there find file browser thingy, edit it and add shortcut.10:00
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Jucatodranas: please stop talking nonsense. thanks10:00
dranasgeeze no sense of humor10:01
darkrift411wow10:01
darkrift411you guys rock10:01
darkrift411i love it in here :)10:01
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darkrift411imma be an expert in no time :)10:01
Jucatohumor has it proper place and proper time10:01
stdincareful Jucato is ALL MIGHTY in here10:01
intelikeywe were afraid of that....   now he'll never leave  :)10:01
Jucatointelikey: oh I can make him leave10:01
darkrift411hey, he is helpful10:01
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dranaskonqi could be the ice dragon10:02
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intelikeydranas wrong colour10:02
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Jucatodarkrift411: you might notice, though, that Win+E will run Konqueror as a web browser if you did it that way10:02
darkrift411yes10:03
Jucatogreen... snot dragon? :)10:03
dranaslol10:03
darkrift411lol10:03
darkrift411see, he does have a sense of humor10:03
Jucato:P10:03
illriginalDoes anyone know a good website with different penguin/tux logos?10:03
dranas^_^10:03
intelikeypond scum dragon ?10:03
basseillriginal: what kind you need?10:03
intelikeymoney dragon ?10:03
darkrift411also.... is there a google plugin for kapote?10:03
Jucatoillriginal: http://tux.crystalxp.net/10:03
Jucatoeat your heart out :)10:03
darkrift411kopete10:03
darkrift411or whatever it is10:03
darkrift411lol10:03
intelikeywhat are green dragons supposed to be anyway ?10:04
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Jucatodarkrift411: Google Plugin?10:04
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Jucatodarkrift411: you mean Google Talk on Kopete?10:04
dranashey wheres a good place to get games?10:04
darkrift411yes10:04
Jucato!games | dranas10:04
ubotudranas: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org10:04
Jucatodarkrift411: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support10:04
darkrift411nice10:04
illriginalthank you Jucato!!! :P10:05
Jucatomy fingers just hurt from all that typing and Ctrl+Tabbing... :P10:05
bassedranas: www.happypenguin.org10:05
ksivajihi jucato10:05
Jucatohi ksivaji10:05
dranasthose work for kubuntu also right?10:05
Jucatodranas: yep. Kubuntu and Ubuntu have the same repositories10:05
JucatoEmacs Tetris ftw!10:05
intelikeydranas kubuntu and ubuntu are the same distro.10:05
dranasooo worms10:05
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dranaswell arent there like slight differnece in how itll be displayed cause of the differnece in kde and gnome?10:06
dranasor was that just a suse flaw?10:06
Jucatodepends really...10:06
intelikeyqt -vs- gtk   wars....10:06
|Dylan|hey, all.  is anyone here fairly knowledgeable about managing fonts, for example deleting around 3,000 or restoring to factory defaults?10:06
dranaso10:07
intelikeyget all your wareZ at 127.0.0.110:07
Jucatodranas: if the game is a GNOME/GTK or KDE/Qt app, there might be some inconsistencies in how windows and buttons are displayed. other than that, not really much of a diff...10:07
|Dylan|intelikey: lol!10:07
intelikeyJucato i'm just reclaiming the throne10:07
dranasoo ok10:07
Jucato|Dylan|: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts?10:07
|Dylan|Jucato: theyre on the root account, so i cant differentiate from the system fonts10:08
Jucatooh... hm...10:08
|Dylan||Dylan|: i dont know enough about the linux font system or kde font system to know how to regen indexes etc10:08
|Dylan|rofl i just talked to myself.10:08
JucatoI think that fonts installed by root are automatically system fonts10:08
|Dylan|Jucato: i can locate the ~3k fonts with some creative grepping, etc10:08
intelikeyi abdicate !10:09
stdin|Dylan|: intelikey already did that twice today, ans dranas does it all the time :p10:09
JucatoJucato: does what?10:09
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Jucato(just following the trend)10:09
|Dylan|mhmm ^.^10:09
stdinstdin: talks to them selfs10:09
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intelikeyoh wait i did didn't i,10:09
intelikeyheh nick completion of like: example...10:10
Jucato[14:43]  <intelikey> intelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd210:10
intelikeyyep10:10
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|Dylan|anyway, can anyone walk me through the process of adding/removing fonts in console (bash)?  or how to restore all system fonts in kubuntu?10:10
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|Dylan|i just dont want to be left with no fonts on my system and some terrible deed resulting....  i have data and apps i want to save!10:11
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basse|Dylan|: i think you can just copy fonts into your ~/.fonts  directory. and they will appear automaticly10:11
Jucatohow did you add the fonts? try to backtrack10:11
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|Dylan|i added the fonts a month or two ago with the kde font installer10:12
basse|Dylan|: does it ask for root passwd?10:12
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|Dylan|mhmm, i installed it as root....  thats the problem :-/10:12
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intelikeysudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep font)10:12
Jucatoyou and your crazy bash...10:13
|Dylan|whoa there...10:13
basse|Dylan|: what exactly is the problem with fonts currently?10:13
intelikeycrazy bash  <*tilts head sideways*>10:13
Jucatothere's 3000 of them10:13
|Dylan|i know almost all the basic commands and such youre using there intelikey, ive done some bash scripting myself, but i still dont follow you10:13
|Dylan|basse:10:13
|Dylan|i would love to have all 6500 fonts from a certain website on my comp, but OO.org and firefox dont like that10:14
bassesheeeeesh10:14
bassethat's quite a lot of fonts10:14
stdin|Dylan|: that will reinstall all the packages that are fonts that you already have installed10:14
|Dylan|lol yeah10:14
basse|Dylan|: you can basicly put those in your ~/.fonts/  dir10:14
intelikey|Dylan| that should reinstall all the font packages that dpkg installed.  thus overwriting and restoring10:15
|Dylan|they cant handle that many fonts, so not only can i not switch to many of the fonts, they mistake fonts for others--like times new roman.10:15
grul!wine10:15
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:15
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|Dylan|overwriting the fonts i installed on my own?10:15
dranasoh hey i got a quick question, once i upgraded to fiesty, my trash can vanished10:15
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dranasand i need to find it so i can empty it10:15
|Dylan|dranas: lol.  vanished from where?10:16
dranasdown by my cocl10:16
dranasclock10:16
dranasor the desktop10:16
intelikeythe ones that are in the packages of fonts installed    just run the part within  $() to see a list of what will be installed10:16
|Dylan|right click on the kicker and add the applet again10:16
stdindranas: just navigate to trash:/ in konqueror10:16
intelikeyreinstalled.    and one could  use that for a list and remove all fonts then install with that list also.10:17
stdindranas: you can even put a link to that url on the desktop/kicker (by the clock)10:17
|Dylan|so should i start off by removing all of my 3000 fonts (incl. system fonts) in console?10:17
dranasok i found it i hadf to add an applet10:17
basse|Dylan|: i dont think you want to remove all system fonts10:17
dranasty guys10:17
dranasor gals10:17
dranasor both10:17
|Dylan|id love to keep all the system fonts and only delete the 3000 "new" ones, that would be fine with me10:17
basse|Dylan|: can't the application you used to install them uninstall them too?10:18
|Dylan|basse: nope, i used the kde font installer and the kde font manager cant list things by *date*10:18
|Dylan|basse: if it could id probably be set :-/10:18
intelikeyso rm the fonts manually with something like  rm /usr/share/fonts -R     and run that reinstall command.      just an example.10:18
basse|Dylan|: uuh.. well did you check the font dir?  /usr/share/fonts/truetype10:18
Jucato|Dylan|: actually, it can10:18
Jucato<|Dylan|> basse: nope, i used the kde font installer and the kde font manager cant list things by *date*10:19
|Dylan|i wasnt able to sort by date or list by date10:19
|Dylan|ill check a few things again10:19
Jucato|Dylan|: right-click in the list and select Sorting -> By Date10:19
|Dylan|if i were to delete a font in console, what would i have to do to update the system indexes of fonts, etc?  what command might i run?10:19
dranashey is cedega worth it?10:19
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stdin|Dylan|: right click -> sorting -> by date10:19
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intelikeydranas to get to play a game.  of course not.10:20
dranasseriously?10:20
|Dylan|dranas: id say no, i have it and dont use it much, doesnt work with many new games.  i like the prospect of cedega, but i dont know that its ready, and its quite closed source.10:20
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intelikeydranas well yeah.  but that's just openion.10:20
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dranaso, i use it for my dvd decrypting software, not cedege but wine10:20
|Dylan|dranas: then again, its $5 a month.10:20
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intelikeyoh didn't happen.10:21
dranas5 bucks a month....ick10:21
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dranasBLAH10:22
grulspeaking of fonts, is there any way to use other fonts than the ones in the list for konsole? i've installed a font that i like and it works in openoffice etc, but konsole only shows about 5 fonts10:22
|Dylan|stdin: rofl....  the problem was that i didnt see any changes when sorting by date, since the fonts were added alphabetically--only the last hundred or so entries had changed.  im a doofus, thankyouverymuch ^.^10:22
grulit's even a fixed width font...10:22
intelikeykonsole only shows 5 ?10:23
grulwell, 810:23
stdin|Dylan|: umm, you should probably thank Jucato too, before he feels ignored10:23
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JucatoO.o10:23
intelikeylast time i looked it was like 3510:23
|Dylan|thank you EVERYONE10:23
|Dylan|:)10:23
grulin settings -> font -> select10:23
dranashow about cross over compared to wine?10:23
basse|Dylan|: where do you need that many fonts anyway? sounds like uncontrollable mess that will explode and font dialog10:23
darkrift411damn10:24
dranasoo i installed a game, maybe, just maybe the magical linux penguins will grant me a wish10:24
Jucatogrul: I think terminals are really just supposed to use fixed-width types10:24
darkrift411no luck finding a better file manager :(10:24
darkrift411most seems to be pretty crappy10:24
|Dylan|basse: it was a bad idea, yes.  i didnt have a very good idea of just how ridiculous that number was, but i also wanted a more straightforward gallery of fonts for gimp than the website provided10:24
grulJucato, yeah i know, but the font i installed (monaco) is a fixed width font...10:24
grulso is there any way i can tell konsole that this font is ok? :p10:24
|Dylan|"Do you really want to delete these 3759 fonts?"10:24
basse:)10:25
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|Dylan|this could take a while.  :-P10:25
intelikeygrul i havent played with konsole  but rxvt/xterm you can specify the font in  ~/.xresources10:25
intelikeymight help... idk10:25
grulah hm10:25
gruli don't even have that file10:26
stdingrul: and "man consolechars"10:26
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|Dylan|if i may ask, what irc clients do you guys use?  im not sure what client to use, im on kvirc but im not that happy with it10:26
darkrift411mirc and xchat10:26
dranasahhh hahaha10:26
intelikeyi didn't either.  but it's a standard config file.10:26
stdinkonversation FTW10:26
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darkrift411mirc for the scripts for those who are wondering why10:26
gruli'm using irssi10:26
|Dylan|stdin: does konversation allow for audio notifications of new messages, etc?10:26
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dranascoool10:27
|Dylan|stdin: or any other new message notification, like flashing kicker icons?10:27
stdin|Dylan|: yeah, when ever someone says my name i hear a cough :p10:27
grulstdin, have you used that program?10:27
|Dylan|stdin: rofl seriously?10:27
stdin|Dylan|: and a flashing kickker icon too10:27
grulconsolechars i mean10:27
intelikeygrul also there is a ~/.kde/something/konsole  or konsolerc   or something   that might have the font listed   one could just adjust it...10:27
stdin|Dylan|: yes :p10:27
underdog5004stdin, stdin, stdin10:27
stdingrul: no, not persionally10:27
underdog5004cough cough cough?10:27
Jucato|Dylan|: yes and yes10:27
|Dylan|stdin: shweet!  time for a change-up, methinks.10:27
Jucato|Dylan|: Settings -> Configure Notifications10:28
stdinaah, my computer sounds like it's got a cold10:28
stdin:p10:28
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gruli'm going find / -name "*konsole*"10:29
intelikey32 minutes and i can scat.10:29
underdog5004Jucato, Hey! long time no see10:29
Jucatohi underdog500410:29
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intelikeygrul not /  ~/10:29
grulbah, i'm the only user of this workstation anyway10:29
stdinsearching / will take a while10:30
intelikeyyeah but searching /dev/  and  /proc   is ludicrise10:30
grul:o10:30
stdinand give you quite a few "permission denied" errors10:30
intelikeyyeah10:30
grulall done10:31
grulheh10:31
dranasyay i found a game that works10:31
intelikeyif you want all listings   find /etc/ /usr/ /var/ /home/ -iname *konsole*10:31
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dranaswormux10:31
dranasso cool10:31
dranasty ppls good night ebverybody10:31
grulanyway, i found: /home/grul/.kde/share/config/konsolerc in case anyone wanted to know10:32
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stdinmay as well leave out /var/ too10:32
intelikeyseeeeeeee10:32
intelikeysi10:32
grul:)10:32
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intelikeystdin but there are some things in /var/lib that one wouldn't expect10:32
grulok, so I changed the default font to Monaco, and it worked :p now let's just hope this doesn't mess things up10:33
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grul:)10:33
intelikeythen i'll say "you're welcome" before i leave10:34
grulheh, thanks10:34
intelikeyyou're welcome10:34
intelikey:)10:34
grul:)10:34
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intelikeybut always seems to read from stdout and stderr10:35
|Dylan|dylan wishes he knew enough about irc to be special like you guys10:36
=== epimeth opens up a can of spam and strains it through the filter
stdinhmm, bad pun :p10:36
underdog5004stdin, oh oh, me too!10:36
intelikey/me something |Dylan|10:36
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|Dylan|mmk thx10:36
|Dylan|wow, /you actually works a well.10:36
|Dylan|oh, nm.10:37
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=== epimeth sent out 10 puns to a pun contest hoping to win... unfortunately no pun in ten did
intelikeynot in bx it doesn't10:37
=== |Dylan| thinks its night
c1|freakyits 10:37am here10:37
c1|freaky;p10:37
|Dylan|137am here10:37
intelikeyepimeth why only 2 ?10:37
=== epimeth has been communicating like this for years
=== stdin looks at the clock and reads "09:37"
underdog5004stdin, 1:30 am here10:38
|Dylan|you guys are in europe, i take it?10:38
intelikeythere are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binarry and those that dont.10:38
epimethintelikey: 11001101011001 10101111100101 101011111101010011010001001001010110:38
epimethlololol10:38
underdog5004lol10:38
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=== stdin it either 1 or it 0
epimeth|Dylan|: israel10:38
=== intelikey wonders who those people are
|Dylan|because you get it or you dont, and if you dont, we laugh at you.10:39
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|Dylan|its binary.10:39
underdog5004there are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get binary and those who don't10:39
c1|freaky10 ? 2+0 :D = 2 :D10:39
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underdog5004devavu?10:39
underdog5004deja vu?10:39
grulthere are 2 kinds of people in the world. those who get hexadecimal and those who don't10:39
c1|freakyyeaaa10:40
c1|freaky:D10:40
grul:P10:40
|Dylan|lol.10:40
underdog5004grul, worst hex joke evar!10:40
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intelikeygurl how many ?10:40
grulunderdog5004, sorry :D10:40
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darkrift411GRRRRR10:40
epimeththere are 10 types of people in this world. those who understand trinary, those who don't, and those who just don't care ?10:40
underdog5004ahahahahahaha10:41
darkrift411ive been searchign all day for a friggen vista looking kicker backround with no luck10:41
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epimethdarkrift411: microsoft.com10:41
epimeth:-p10:41
underdog5004darkrift411, why use something from vista?10:41
darkrift411lol10:41
=== stdin wonders why you would want to have kicker look like vista
darkrift411because i hate the current look, and i like the 3d look of the vista one10:41
underdog5004ah...10:41
epimethdarkrift411: kde-look.org has some nice ones10:42
=== stdin would just turn on transparency
darkrift411what category are they under?10:42
darkrift411i found a nice black one before10:42
darkrift411but cant find it now10:42
underdog5004I never understood why you'd want your machine to look like windows...aka linspire-ish things10:42
darkrift411i never understood why everyone is soo against what my machine looks like10:42
c1|freakythere are 3 kind of people in the world. those who understand decimal, those who understand hex, and those who don't think about hex ;p10:42
underdog5004do what you like, it's just a personal preference10:43
c1|freakyor dont know about hex10:43
epimethdarkrift411: for the same reason that if you came here asking about the gnome kicker we'd yell at you :-)10:43
underdog5004to me, I prefer something that looks original, or at least not too much like anything else10:43
darkrift411i have a wife and otehr family that doesnt know linux10:43
darkrift411they know windows10:43
epimeththe best, tho, is that douglass adam's accidentaly made a number theory joke...10:43
darkrift411so compatibility is a thing i look for too10:43
darkrift411having a simillar look works10:44
epimeth42 = 6x910:44
underdog5004darkrift411, gotcha10:44
|Dylan|i have a sister who has vista, and it behooves me to be able to replicate every feature of vista to try to convert her, even though the goal is to be original.10:44
underdog5004darkrift411, I remember reading about some guy who setup ubuntu for his dad, installed beryl, a vista theme, and the dad didn't know it! He thought it was vista.10:45
|Dylan|the best way to make someone jealous is to do what they do better, not to do something else better.  so emulating vista is an important part of converting vista users, IMHO10:45
darkrift411thats what id like to do10:45
darkrift411not completely10:45
darkrift411i have the vista beryl theme10:45
|Dylan|darkrift411: youll want to switch to compiz/compcomm fairly soon10:45
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darkrift411ive used windows since 3.0, so im very used to it10:45
underdog5004Compiz Fusion, now10:45
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darkrift411i can manage in windows, but i still like the vista taskbar look10:45
|Dylan|underdog5004: i dont think fusion won10:45
darkrift411manage in linux*10:45
crdlb|Dylan|, it did10:46
epimethunderdog5004: isn't showing them a computer that doesn't lag more impressive?10:46
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|Dylan|crdlb: whoa, hey there.10:46
epimethunderdog5004: scratch that... isn't showing them an *affordable* computer that doesn't lag more impressive?10:46
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underdog5004meh, my computer cost about 300 dollars, runs beryl no lag10:47
underdog5004but I did oc my video card a little...10:47
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|Dylan|mine was 1,500 2.5 years ago...^.^  :)10:47
underdog5004epimeth, I don't understand where you're coming from.10:48
=== |Dylan| is tired and just wrote ^.^ :)
underdog5004^.^ :)10:48
=== twosouls82 slaps |Dylan| with a fish
underdog5004will wonders never cease10:48
twosouls82tired too :)10:48
=== stdin just read Jucato post on planet ubuntu
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intelikeyepimeth 13145 11237 11799839893 ???????????????10:49
epimethunderdog5004: what?10:49
Jucatohuh? what?10:49
underdog5004huh?10:49
epimethintelikey: did you just convert what I wrote before to decimal?10:49
underdog5004ummm, what's happening?10:49
darkrift411i wish i could force apps to the tray10:49
intelikeyepimeth yeah10:49
Jucatodarkrift411: you can10:50
epimeth[11:48]  <underdog5004> epimeth, I don't understand where you're coming from.10:50
intelikeywell actually used a script10:50
epimethintelikey: loser :-p10:50
underdog5004epimeth, oh, that10:50
epimethintelikey: translate to hex, it'll be quicker :-)10:50
=== |Dylan| thanks everyone for their help, esp the people who helped him, but must sadly sleep now.
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underdog5004I meant that I didn't understand how my comments spurred the lag/price comment...but I'm pretty tired...10:51
intelikey2BE5_16 3359_16 2BF534495_1610:51
epimethunderdog5004: whups.... I thought you said what Dylan said about converting windows users....10:53
underdog5004lol, now who is tired?10:53
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epimethcheers intelikey... I'll cherish this forever10:53
epimethgo math!10:53
intelikeylol10:53
intelikeyyeah right...10:54
intelikeywell delete is cheep   and /dev/null is never full10:54
intelikey:)10:54
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intelikeyposted at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37572  so i don't lose it,10:55
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intelikeyi do actually use that script more than one would think.10:56
krautmoin10:56
intelikeykraut10:56
epimethack! its a kraut!10:56
krautindeed10:56
krautthe crowd! :)10:56
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TomasuI'm having a slight issue with my wifi card. im trying to get it to setup in ap mode, but it won't respect the channel I set. after ifup is run, it says its in channel 1, even though I set channel 11, and nothing will connect.10:57
Tomasucalling iwconfig afterwards makes it all work.10:57
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stdinintelikey: why do you always read me?10:58
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stdin(line 11)10:58
intelikeyi never read you.  i always read stdout and stderr10:58
stdin"# if nothing is specified on the command line then we read stdin" <-- there, you read me there10:59
epimethstdin: its not *always* its just when we don't have a choice10:59
intelikeyepimeth ^5     lol11:00
intelikeystdin he nailed you with that one.11:00
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intelikey:)11:00
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intelikeywell i see my time is gone.    and just when it gets interesting.11:03
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epimethwell... its been swell but the swelling has gone down... back to lurking mode before the boss catches me wasting time :-)  I'll bbs tho!11:07
underdog5004a parrot bit me the other day.11:07
stdin!away Sleeping (or just not back yet)11:08
stdindamn away message..11:08
underdog5004I still have dents in my arm11:08
stdinunderdog5004: did you bite it back?11:09
underdog5004no, it was in a pet store...the bird cost about 400 dollars...way out of my price range for an undersized chicken11:09
intelikeyi go now.  gooday !11:09
underdog5004bye11:09
stdinlater intelikey11:10
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xstHow do I make thunderbird use firefox as default browser instead of konqueror? (I have set firefox up as default browser in the KDE settings, but this is pretty much ignored)?11:12
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DexterFhi11:15
DexterFhow do I rescan the scsi-bus?11:15
DexterF!scsi11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
wizkoderhy everybody11:15
stdinxst: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser11:15
wizkoderanybody here that know krusader? How can I prevent my sftp connection from closing after a few seconds?11:16
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xststdin: But wouldn't this change the default browser system wide and not only for my user?11:16
stdinxst: there's no other way to get it to do it11:17
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xststdin: OK. How silly. Someone should really file a bug on this. :-)11:18
llutzDexterF: install package "scsiadd"11:18
stdinxst: it's because gtk apps don't read kde's settings and vice-versa, so it uses the most generic way by running "x-www-browser"11:19
DexterFllutz: thanks11:19
llutzxst you can set network-protocol handler for thunderbird in user.prefs, just use google for syntax11:20
DexterFwhat mailing list should I subscribe to for matters liek NFS issues?11:23
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sivajihi11:25
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xststdin, llutz: ok, thanks11:25
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Gerritsuspend-to-ram has a cool effect to system uptime :)11:43
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DexterF!bugs11:43
_RadioHeadanyone any antivirus i can install and use on kubuntu11:43
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots11:43
_RadioHead?11:44
DexterF_RadioHead: think there's debs of avira's personal edition. what for anyway?11:44
_RadioHeadi need toi scan some damn heya DexterF dude11:44
_RadioHeadDexterF: apt-get install avira? right11:44
DexterFnah11:44
DexterFavira is so third party, guess you need to install manually11:45
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_RadioHeadim not familiar with antiviruses :)11:45
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_RadioHeadlet me search11:45
DexterFwww.avira.com. not even a deb, tarball... well.11:46
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underdog5004!av11:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:47
underdog5004!antivirus11:47
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus11:47
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mat1980how to change default login manager?11:49
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underdog5004mat1980, do you mean the look, or the actual manager?11:51
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vistahow do i enable the fade out option in amarok ?11:56
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vistadont knw whats wrong but when i press quit amarok the song stops immediately but i want that amarok fade out effect can anyone help ?11:57
mat1980underdog5004: I mean the actual manager. Resolved with dpkg-reconfigure kdm, as suggested from another user. Thanks however.11:58
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underdog5004np11:58
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JuJuBeeWhat is the default account (admin?)  that gets set up when you install postgresql ?12:25
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ManiDhillon!wine12:25
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:25
xstI am using kubuntu on a laptop but when I try to configure the external monitor from "System Settings -> Monitor & Display" the X-server won't restart. Also, I can see in xorg.conf, that only a 640z480 resolution is added for the monitor. Quite strange. What should I do in order to configure my external monitor?12:25
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ManiDhillon!beryl12:27
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:27
grul!bananas12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bananas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
grul!myself12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
grulhee hee12:27
grul!mouse12:27
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto12:27
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ManiDhillon!opera12:29
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:29
jorik808anyone knows a program that will allow me to generate and print "calender sheets" ? like, one A4 per month ? (landscaped)12:30
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ManiDhillon!updating kde12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about updating kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
ManiDhillon!kde12:45
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:45
pawitpManiDhillon: Use the update manager12:45
ManiDhillonpawitp Which flavour are you using? KDE Or GNOME?12:46
JuJuBeefwiw I used to use  GNOME but switched to  KDE and never looked back.12:47
ManiDhillonJuJuBee Good i too use KDE!12:48
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grulhint: we're in #kubuntu12:49
grulmost people here use kde, i suppose12:49
JuJuBeeOf coures the channel name does start with a K ;)12:49
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JuJuBeeI  have a rather lengthy question.  I  installed feisty about a month or so ago and nis was working fine.  Druing this tiime, I have been installing software and applying the updates.   Sometime since I installed it initially, nis broke.  What is the best way to find out  what broke nis?12:51
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JuJuBeeAh well, guess I will go back to trial and error...12:54
JuJuBeeTTFN12:54
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nicolahello01:01
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gigabyteshow can I tell Amarok to use as the collection a remote directory on a samba share?01:02
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underdog5004my, it _is_ lively in here!01:10
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XVampireXunderdog5004: Does it have to?01:15
XVampireXThis is actually a support channel more than anything, so saying that it is lively depends on the people who ask questions :D01:15
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underdog5004true01:16
underdog5004darn you guys, why can't you not figure out a feature of linux right now?!?01:16
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fusiogenkj01:18
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sandhyahello. how do i get linux to check all my partitions for errors?01:24
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sandhyaI have tried running "shutdown -rF now" to run "fsck" upon reboot.. but that does not seem to be working.01:25
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underdog5004sandhya, I know it's not the right way, but you could boot with a livecd (something light, like DSL), then fsck your partitions01:29
sandhyaunderdog5004: thanks. I'd like to find the right way to do this though.01:30
sandhyait seems very odd.01:30
nosrednaekimsandhya: whats the problem?01:31
underdog5004have you read the man pages for fsck? Maybe when you reboot, hit ESC and boot into "recovery mode". You may be able to do it from there01:31
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TheGateKeeperis the version of cups in kubuntu 6.06 version 1.2.2?01:32
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sandhyanosrednaekim: My hard drive hangs when I access a certain file.01:32
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sandhyanosrednaekim: and I'm trying to see if fsck can detect it and perhaps mark a bad sector or something.01:33
nosrednaekimsandhya: ah. ok01:34
sandhyaunderdog5004: I'm actually just trying to do it manually as it isn't /01:34
sandhya(now)01:34
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sandhyafsck reports it as being clean :/01:35
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sandhyaCan I force it to recheck everything?01:35
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atrophiaragazzi01:39
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atrophiaki ha mica sto file?01:40
atrophiaePlus2k.usb01:40
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nosrednaekimTheGateKeeper: 1.2.001:45
TheGateKeepernosrednaekim: thanx01:45
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TheGateKeeperdamn portage jumps from cups-1.1.23-r8 to cups-1.2.601:48
nosrednaekimportage?01:48
nosrednaekimGentoo?01:48
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TheGateKeeperyep I have ipp working on kubuntu & pclinuxos but NOT gentoo, it's being a real 'git' :-(01:49
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nosrednaekimyou're in the wrong channel Buddy.01:51
nosrednaekim:-D01:51
TheGateKeepernosrednaekim: well not for the piece of info you just gave me :/01:52
nosrednaekimwell yeah,01:52
nosrednaekimtrue :)01:52
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underdog5004I didn't like gentoo too much...too much time spent compiling01:54
underdog5004just my two cents01:55
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underdog5004how can I get scp to copy directories?01:58
zarilionWhats the command to replace the xorg.conf file with one of the backup ones ? from command line01:58
underdog5004zarilion, mv old.xorg.conf xorg.conf01:58
zarilionty01:58
underdog5004zarilion, actually, h/o01:58
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nosrednaekimunderdog5004: I think you have to put  a -R to be recursive01:59
underdog5004zarilion, mv /path/to/old/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:59
underdog5004nosrednaekim, thanks01:59
voltaireunderdog: scp -r src dest01:59
voltaireunderdog: -r must be first param01:59
underdog5004nosrednaekim, close, it had to be a lower-case r01:59
underdog5004thanks so much02:00
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zarilionunderdog5004: i have to rename the xorg.conf.back file.02:01
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underdog5004zarilion, I know, but to do that, it's easier to just "move" the file from the current location to the /etc/X11/ location with the filename xorg.conf02:01
underdog5004I don't know that there is a rename function...02:01
zarilionall of them is in the /etc/X11/ folder ..02:02
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underdog5004zarilion, that's ok02:03
_4strO!skype02:03
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto02:03
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: ah.. sorry02:03
underdog5004you're moving it to the same folder that it's in, but specifying a different file name02:03
underdog5004nosrednaekim, np02:03
underdog5004you pointed me in the right direction02:04
underdog5004half a gig of daft punk moved across...I'm happy02:04
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underdog5004one more time02:05
underdog5004zarilion, you alright?02:05
plontajhello02:06
underdog5004plontaj, how can I help you?02:06
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plontaj:D I wat to play soldat02:06
underdog5004what's that?02:06
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zarilionunderdog5004: ya02:06
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plontajwindows game02:06
underdog5004!wine02:06
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:06
plontajand I install wine and configure02:07
plontajbut soldat need Directx and game is slow02:07
underdog5004bummer...you may want to dual-boot windows02:07
underdog5004and ubuntu02:07
zarilionunderdog5004: but i still dont know how i replace it, or rename the xorg.conf.bak to xorg.conf02:07
plontajthx bye02:08
underdog5004zarilion, type the following in: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:08
_4strO!grub02:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:08
zarilionunderdog5004: done02:09
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underdog5004now restart your xserver by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This will shutdown any graphical programs you have up. Then log back in.02:09
nosrednaekim!gogle02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gogle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
nosrednaekim!google02:10
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux02:10
underdog5004yay, my rdiff-backup finally finished!02:10
nosrednaekim!google ubuntu02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
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nosrednaekimthey really ought to have that... and imbedded google search02:10
nosrednaekim:-D02:10
zarilionunderdog5004: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace didnt do anything :P02:10
underdog5004nosrednaekim, what are you looking for?02:10
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: nothing.02:11
underdog5004zarilion, ok, log out, then in the menu next to the login fields, you can restart the xserver. If you can't find that, just reboot02:11
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underdog5004nosrednaekim, oh02:11
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plontajand one question02:12
nosrednaekimyeah?02:12
plontajalcoho have .cue what program for linux is compatibile for cue?02:12
underdog5004!k3b02:13
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto02:13
zarilionunderdog5004: hmm. thought you knew. the grafical interface is down.. im running irssi on black screen :P xserver would not reboot02:13
underdog5004ahahahaha, my bad, zarilion02:13
plontajok i tire02:13
underdog5004if you want, you can just reconfigure your xserver02:13
underdog5004sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:13
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zarilionyeah.. did that before and it worked good :) think ill do that02:14
zarilionthank you for your help02:14
underdog5004alrighty, I'll be here for the next couple of hours02:14
underdog5004np02:14
underdog5004ok, nvm, gonna go watch a movie w/ my gf instead02:14
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KomiaPoikawhats package to install to have GLIB 1.2.3 or higher?02:25
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ardchoille!info glib02:26
ubotuPackage glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:26
ardchoille!info glibc02:26
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ubotuPackage glibc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:26
fnordperfecthi! I'm using Kubuntu Feisty. My problem is, installing fonts on per-user basis (in ~/.fonts) does not appear to work. they don't show up in fonts:/ nor in the applications.02:26
fnordperfectbut xlsfonts lists them02:26
jorik808i have a HUGE amount data which i would like to (regularly, automatically) mirror to a second hard drive, is there any software that does this ?02:27
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KomiaPoikaapt-get install glibc2*02:27
ardchoillejorik808: rsync02:27
neonlinuxfnordperfect: umm.... try the font installing application02:27
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neonlinuxjorik808: rsync02:28
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naseerhaiderhi02:28
jorik808ardchoille: i thought about that, but it looks so complicated i thought it was overkill and a simpler solution existed. guess not :-)02:29
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ardchoillejorik808: I don't think rsync could be considered overkll in any situation really.02:29
fnordperfectneonlinux: oukay.. and which would be the "font installing application"? the kcontrol module?02:29
KomiaPoikai'm trying to compile gftp with ssl support, but i get: configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher02:29
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neonlinuxset up a test directory first and try 'rsync -avz /directory/directory /destination/directory'02:29
neonlinuxfnordperfect: sry.. wasnt specific.. yeah.. thats the one02:30
ardchoilleI think this was directed to you: < KomiaPoika> apt-get install glibc2*02:30
KomiaPoikai wrote that myself02:30
KomiaPoikait installs some lib02:30
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KomiaPoikabut configure still doesnt see it02:30
jorik808neonlinux: ok thx, well i guess it's about time to learn to work with rsync anyways02:30
ardchoille!info glibc202:30
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neonlinuxjorik808: i use it at work to back up 260 gig of data from 1 linux server to another :)02:31
fnordperfectneonlinux: ok, done it. I removed the files from ~/.fonts and installed them again with kcontrol. they're in ~/.fonts but not shown in the list in the kcontrol module, and not shown in fonts:/02:31
KomiaPoikaokay, this seems to help: apt-get install libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev02:31
neonlinuxfnordperfect: try as root (in a terminal type kdesu kcontrol)02:32
KomiaPoikanow i get this build error: gftp-2.0.18/src/text/gftp-text.c:188: undefined reference to `g_locale_from_utf8'  what can i install?02:32
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fnordperfectneonlinux: well, though I could do that, this somewhat contradicts the whole per-user-installed-fonts thing...02:33
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jorik808neonlinux: just one more quick question: does rsync use any funky way of storing the files or is it just a "copy" (= can i use it to sync an ipod)02:34
neonlinuxfnordperfect: umm.. sry.. forgot about that bit lol..02:34
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neonlinuxjorik808: that comand does a copy (and if the file exists.. skips it. and if the file has changed since last time it iverwrites the older one (thats the way it appears to work at work))02:35
jorik808YAY ! :) omigod i LOVE linux02:35
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neonlinuxjorik808: just test that it does that before trying it on anything important02:35
jorik808good idea02:36
neonlinuxfnordperfect: sry.. out of ideas.. havent messed around with fonts that much02:36
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fnordperfectneonlinux: ok, thanks anyway. it's not that important atm, but I'm wondering cause it used to work flawlessly in the past..02:36
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neonlinuxfnordperfect: ill have a look around02:37
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KomiaPoikahow can i install gftp with ssl support02:38
neonlinuxfnordperfect: have you tried restarting x after installation of fonts?02:38
ardchoilleKomiaPoika: I thought gftp had ssl support already02:39
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fnordperfectneonlinux: yes, it has been restarted several times since I first tried it02:41
ardchoilleKomiaPoika: kftpgrabber has ssl support: TLS/SSL support02:41
neonlinuxfnordperfect: rats.. there goes that idea...02:41
ardchoilleKomiaPoika: here's a partial feature list for kftpgrabber: http://www.kftp.org/misc/description02:41
ardchoille!info kftpgrabber02:42
ubotukftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1109 kB, installed size 3136 kB02:42
jorik808neonlinux: okay everything works, gonna put it in a crontab and be done with it :D thx again02:43
neonlinuxjorik808: no worries.. only found that utility the other day :)02:43
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jorik808:p02:44
KomiaPoikaardchoille: it does when it builds, but it wont build02:48
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ardchoilleKomiaPoika: Well, if you don't mind using a kde app for ftp, there's always kftpgrabber and it's in the repos.02:48
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KomiaPoikaardchoille: i installed gftp packages from seveas sourcelist02:49
KomiaPoikaand it works02:49
KomiaPoikai'll try kftpgrabber02:49
neonlinuxfnordperfect: cant find anything atm.. might be worth while posting on the forum02:49
ardchoilleAh, ok. Yeah, the seveas repo is nice.02:49
fnordperfectneonlinux: yea, me neither. ok, thank you very much for trying!02:50
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neonlinuxfnordperfect: just curious.. in konqueror if you type fonts:/user do you see your fonts?02:51
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AaronCampbellDoes anyone have time to help me get my networking working again?02:53
fnordperfectneonlinux: umh.. fonts:/user does not work. my system is german, so the uri here is fonts:/Persnlich .. (fonts:/Personal is also accepted). but: no, it doesn't show anything.02:53
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neonlinuxfnordperfect: german.. cool :) ... ummm that should show any user fonts installed..02:54
AaronCampbellI have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working02:55
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neonlinuxfnordperfect: ok.. in fonts:/personal try dumping your fonts that you want02:56
fnordperfectneonlinux: it should, yes. been there, done that. Didn't work. ~/.fonts is completely ignored. fonts:/System does work, it even shows thumbnails previews02:56
neonlinuxfnordperfect: only thing i can think is its a kde config problem02:57
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fnordperfectneonlinux: I tried to put some other TrueType fonts in fonts:/Personal (umh.. it were TrueType fonts, did I mention that?). And .. while some won't work, other do03:05
fnordperfect.. others do work03:05
sebastian_were is KDM Theme Manager ?03:05
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neonlinuxfnordperfect: i guess i assumed that.. but.. if some work and some dont.. then i wonder what the fonts that dont work have03:06
dwidmannsebastian_: systemsettings or kcontrol03:06
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dwidmannsebastian_: in kcontrol it's system administration -> login manager03:06
sagemhi all i want create my own live cd based on ubuntu feisty, where i can find some doc ?03:07
dwidmannlooks to be in pretty much the same place in systemsettings too, things lining up for a change, nice03:07
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migshi! would anybody know how  can i load undernet?03:09
sagemno idea??03:09
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migs<migs> hi! would anybody know how  can i load undernet?03:10
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fnordperfectneonlinux: I dunno. they are somehow broken! I didn't notice this, since konqueror shows a valid thumbnail preview when I browse to their original location in the filesystem.. but: kfontview says "ERROR: Could not determine font's name (11 pixels)"03:10
dwidmannsebastian_: come to think of it, that's only the background and finer details, might have to do the rest manually03:10
^peter^_migs it depends - what client sre you using?03:11
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busfahrermigs: I don't know which client you're using, but on most this should do: type /server irc.undernet.org03:11
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migsthanks!03:11
busfahrer(depending on client, be prepared to get disconnected from Freenode)03:11
xstHas anyone in here succeeded in attaching an external monitor to a laptop and setting up a dual-head in System Settings?03:12
xstX refuses to restart when I configure my second monitor to be "Generic"03:12
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AaronCampbellDoes anyone have time to help me get my networking working again? I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working again03:17
migsur the best guys !03:17
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AaronCampbellIt appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP03:20
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AaronCampbellAnd worse of all, it was working fine a few days ago03:22
AaronCampbells/worse/worst03:22
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AaronCampbellMust be too early?03:25
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MikeMike:)03:34
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BluesKajMorning all :)03:35
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lordi.03:40
MikeMikewhat  port  does dalnet use?03:41
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chxhi. I get Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Layout when trying to start Azureus. Googled without not much luck.03:42
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ArsaneritHi, I can print from firefox but not from acrobat. Firefox lets me select the printer by name (CUPS/prn): what commandline is equivalent to what firefox is doing when it's printing to CUPS/prn?03:43
ArsaneritAcrobat says: "lpq: prn: unknown printer". I can enter a command with "custom". What command can I enter so that it does the same as firefox?03:44
BluesKajMikeMike, most irc servers use ports fromm 6667-700003:44
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mat1980Arsanerit: I guess the command should be lpr, not lpq03:47
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maddywie kann ich nice bei einem laufenden prozess anwenden (wenn berhaupt mglich)?03:51
n8k99!de03:51
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:51
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ubuntu__how do I delete grub... when i try to install windows again on my machine, the grub errors... how do it del it_03:54
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mat1980ubuntu__: if grub is on mbr, it will be replaced during windows install03:55
BluesKajubuntu__, are you trying to dual boot windows and kubuntu ?03:55
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ubuntu__no, I had kubuntu installed but I dont like it... want to del it, booted my win cd then installed everything, when the comp boots, I get grub error17 and nothing more03:56
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BluesKajsounds like windows wasn't installed since there's no mbr...anyway ubuntu__, that's quaestion to ask in the #windows channel03:59
jaaroohello there. Does anyone have idea how I can cut off data beginning with particular STRING out of binary file? I've tried |sed '{ s/STRING.*// ; T ; q }' but it will print newline at the end of data :(03:59
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maddydamn, was in the wrong channel, sorry guys and girls04:05
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mat1980ubuntu__: this is not kubuntu related, however... if you have to reinstall windows, you have no problem because Windows will replace grub at install. otherwise boot with a windows cd and get a console, then give the command fdisk /fixmbr04:08
TrueFXhi guys04:08
TrueFXi ve got a problem04:08
TrueFXi cant make my system dual boot04:09
TrueFXroot@TrueFX:~# fdisk -l04:09
TrueFXDisk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes04:09
TrueFX255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders04:09
TrueFXUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes04:09
TrueFX   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System04:09
TrueFX/dev/sda1   *           1        3973    31913091    7  HPFS/NTFS04:09
TrueFX/dev/sda2            3974       27839   191703645    5  Extended04:09
Jucato!paste | TrueFX04:09
ubotuTrueFX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:09
TrueFX/dev/sda3           27840       30401    20579265   83  Linux04:09
gnomefreakTrueFX: use pastebin04:09
TrueFX/dev/sda5            3974       27839   191703612+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:09
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TrueFXDisk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes04:09
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Jucatobye...04:09
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gnomefreakcan you hint him towards pastebin if im not looking?04:10
Jucatosure. I already tried to ^^^04:10
gnomefreaki know :) his buffer wouldnt let him stop im assuming04:10
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familydoes anybody know how to fix this error in aptitude? E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)04:11
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mat1980family: what is the output of uname -a04:12
redheathi everyone04:12
familymat1980: Linux family-desktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:12
redheatsorry for bugging you all, but I do really appreciate some help04:13
redheatI installed the new version of ubuntu the gutsy gebawn04:13
JucatoO.o04:13
Jucatoredheat: that's still in alpha04:13
redheatyeah, I know, but it is like ubuntu..04:14
Daisuke_Idono help on that, you take your life in your own hands using an alpha release04:14
redheatI know Deisuke_Ido..04:14
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Daisuke_Idoso what's the help part?04:14
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redheatI was about to ask about a certain issue..04:14
anrykohow to start sshd service in kubuntu?04:15
Daisuke_Idoyou want #ubuntu+104:15
redheatwhen I try to log off, it won't log out..04:15
Jucatoredheat: it *is* ubuntu, but the next version, which is in alpha right now. you might want to direct your question(s) in #ubuntu+104:15
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redheatand if I tried to login using the root account it tells me the administrator can not login from the login screen04:15
Jucatoyes you can't login as root graphically04:15
redheatI changed to root using the terminal..04:16
mat1980family: uhm... no idea. did you updated the repository info before install?04:16
anrykohow to start sshd service in kubuntu?04:16
anrykohow to start sshd service in kubuntu?04:16
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familymat1980: yes04:16
mat1980anryko: as any other services... /etc/init.d/sshd start04:16
redheatjust bear with me please04:17
redheatI want to logout..04:17
Jucatoredheat: please check with #ubuntu+104:17
redheatto the command prompt how do I do that04:17
Jucatoit might be a known bug already04:17
anrykothere is bo sshd start script :)04:17
anrykono*04:17
redheatok thank you so much and sorry for bothering..04:17
Jucatoredheat: and you really shouldn't be using gutsy at this point in time04:17
redheatI'm beginning to think so, it was a bit irrational on my side to move fast to gutsy at this point of development04:18
redheatthe problem is I love ubuntu a lot..04:18
redheatthough I've been using it for less than a month..04:18
mat1980family: sorry... no idea at all.04:18
Jucatoredheat: so why not just use the latest stable release instead?04:18
redheatand I have all three systems installed on one harddrve..04:18
redheatfeistyfawn..it seems I will04:19
Jucatoanryko: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start04:19
familyhere's the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26603/04:19
redheatthank you thank you so much for your help04:19
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anrykonope... first i needed to install openssh-server :)04:19
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Jucatoanryko: and try not to spam the channel with the same question every second04:19
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epimethJucato: what's up?04:20
epimethJucato: what's up?04:20
epimethJucato: what's up?04:20
epimeth:-p04:20
Jucatoepimeth: stop that04:20
epimethyessir04:20
Jucatoother ops may not be as lenient as I am :P04:20
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epimethmeh... you're the only one I've seen kick someone04:21
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familyah, I got it :D04:21
Jucatoyou haven't kept your eyes open long enough :P04:21
BluesKajwe know yer a real tolerant dude , Jucato :)04:21
Jucatoheh :P04:21
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zoohouseI am running vncserverd (tightvnc server). Why is it that when I create a new session (ex: :1) and log into it, I don't have a k enviroment? How can I get :1 to run with the K enviroment?04:22
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aaron$B$3$s$P$s$o(B04:23
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jim88hi all ... I have a problem with my sound and videos being "jerky"  I am using kubuntu 7.04 ... is there something that I should update or is missing?04:23
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Daisuke_Idoseishinbyou: was there a reason behind that?04:25
seishinbyouI'm running Feisty on a Stinkpad.  The wireless used to work, but just died recently.  I did a few apt-get upgrades/updates...could that be the problem; I just can't04:25
seishinbyouNo reason04:25
seishinbyouI'm just a bit tired04:25
seishinbyouand it's late04:25
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jhutchinszoohouse: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/1311 - also look up xdmcp.04:25
zoohousejhutchins: thanks04:25
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jhutchinsseishinbyou: Yes, an update may have caused a problem with the driver for the wireless card.  You will need to find out what chipset it is, what drivers it's using, and what errors they're reporting in the logs.04:26
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okayhi04:27
seishinbyouIt's an orinoco_pci, built into some of the Thinkpad T30s04:27
jhutchinsseishinbyou: You will need to be able to configure the card from the command line, error reporting in the GUI is inadequate.04:27
seishinbyouI used a script to connect before04:27
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seishinbyoublacklisted a bunch of devices, enabled the orinoco_pci04:27
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seishinbyouset the essid/wep password, and it used to work fine04:27
BluesKajjim88, what app are you using to play the videos ?04:27
seishinbyouThe blacklisting is because of a known bug with this particular model04:28
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jhutchinsseishinbyou: Suggest you start over from scratch, remove the blacklisting and try the native drivers.  Need chipset, not brand.04:29
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alesanre04:29
jim88Blue: it is usually kaffeine04:29
alesana friend of mine seem to have shutdown its laptop in a bad way04:29
seishinbyouI could, but it was working just fine that way...actually, only that way, until very recently04:30
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alesanand now when he tries to open adept he gets the message that the pkg db is locked.04:30
jim88Blue: it is usually kaffeine ... however if I just play something in either Firefox or Opera it is the same04:30
alesanwhat to do to get it online :)04:30
seishinbyou"Intel 802.11b mini-PCI wireless adapter"04:30
Daisuke_Idohmm.  ark is p-ing me off a little :\04:30
BluesKajjhutchins, does feisty still support wep ... thought wpa was the default encryption in wireless?04:31
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: just looking at ark's interface has the same effect for me. It just makes me want to scream.04:31
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ramiI need help04:31
Daisuke_Idoi would imagine it still supports wep, and will until it's not available on consumer hardware04:32
ramihow do i change the lan guage?04:32
Daisuke_Idorami: that's informative, thanks!04:32
BluesKajjim88, the only thing i can think of is you need updated codecs04:32
ramii'm swedish and the language is english.....04:32
Daisuke_Idodwidmann: while i have problems with the interface too, that's not my current beef with it04:32
ramiso i want to change to swedish04:32
BluesKaj!se | rami04:32
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uboturami: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se04:33
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: what's the current one?04:33
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ramiok!04:33
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BluesKajhej do rami04:33
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jim88Blue: thank you ... how do I do that?04:33
Arwenhelp! Ubuntu allows me to change file permissions on FAT partitions... something's broken!04:33
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Daisuke_Idousing the konqueror right-click menu, i can only successfully extract a single file at a time.  if i attempt more than one, they both stall out and quit about halfway through :\04:33
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dwidmannArwen: that's really weird :O04:33
BluesKaj!codecs | jim8804:34
ubotujim88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:34
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dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: run ark in konsole, maybe you'll get interesting messages if you're lucky.04:34
Daisuke_Idoand with over 1300 files in all, batch extracting to subfolders based on their name would REALLY help04:34
mat1980Arwen: fat has no permissions... explain better.04:35
Daisuke_Idomat04:35
Arwenmat1980, that's exactly why it's broken!04:35
Daisuke_Idothat's his point.04:35
Arwenwhen I ran "chmod 755 /media/fat32/blah" ... it worked04:35
mat1980Arwen: how do you mount it?04:35
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Arwenmount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /media/fat3204:35
Daisuke_Idodwidmann: one copy run from console doesn't crash out at all :\04:36
Daisuke_Idoit's the multiple copies i'm having problems with04:36
Daisuke_Idoperhaps i should just use unzip from the console :)04:36
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dwidmannArwen: what do you get when you ls -l /media/fat32/04:37
Arwendwidmann, a listing of files?04:37
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dwidmannArwen: along with their permissions, timestamps, etc04:37
Arwenyes04:37
Arwene.g. drwxrwxr-x  5 root plugdev   4096 2007-06-20 14:23 Nexuiz04:38
dwidmannArwen: hahaha, that's wild, try chowning it and/or chmodding it and lsting again. Does it actually change them properly?04:38
Arwenyes04:39
Arwenthe permissions change04:39
Arwenhaven't tried chown though04:39
Arwenchown: changing ownership of `MY_NUMBER!.txt': Operation not permitted04:39
Arwenbut chmod works..04:39
Daisuke_IdoOoh, appletinis :)04:39
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dwidmannArwen: sudo?04:40
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Arwendwidmann, that was with sudo04:40
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dwidmannArwen: then at least it's not letting you do that :P04:40
Arwenyeah, but allowing chmod worries me..04:40
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buxtehudequestion...i suddently have a floating kubuntu icon on my desktop that is on top of anything running.  Any ideas on how i can make it go away?04:42
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Arwenbuxtehude, killall kicker04:42
Arwentry that04:42
buxtehudein terminal?04:43
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Arwenyea04:43
Arwenw00t, GIMP + dualhead = fun :-)04:43
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dwidmanndualhead?04:43
rraajjWhat's with Feisty not being able to play VCDs? At first I thought it was a Kaffeine issue, but then I tried VLC, Mplayer, and even Xine, none of them won't play VCDs.04:43
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Arwendwidmann, yes, dualhead04:43
Arwenrraajj, none of them won't play VCDs?04:43
Arwendoesn't that mean one of them does?04:43
buxtehudeno work :(04:44
dwidmannArwen: dualhead is what exactly (or vaguely, I'm not picky)04:44
Arwenbuxtehude, logout and log back in?04:44
rraajjArwen: w00t, probably tired after a hard day's work. :P04:44
Arwendwidmann, using 2 displays04:44
buxtehudetried that04:44
Arwenhmm..04:44
rraajj*non of them would play VCDs.04:44
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buxtehudeit's pretty annoying too, hehe04:44
dwidmannArwen: ah, I guess I'm using that then. non-xinerama though.04:44
Arwenrraajj, well, don't know what to say without more details. Any error logs?04:44
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Arwendwidmann, mergedxinerama here :-(04:45
dwidmannmerged?04:45
Arwenyeah, mergedfb (ATI thing)04:45
dwidmannah, never heard of it04:45
buxtehudeno other ideas out there?04:45
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rraajjArwen: No error logs. They just, err, crash for some reason. Mplayer says it can't find the video_out option, Kaffeine gives me a backtrace that prints out things related to threads or something...04:45
buxtehudewhoah...it just dissappeared on its own04:45
buxtehudeafter 3 days, hehe04:46
Arwenrraajj, what about vlc?04:46
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rraajjVLC has no immediate backtraces (haven't checked it's raw logs, though), and Xine, well, Xine does nothing.04:46
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seishinbyounot all VCDs.  Backstroke of the West is hilarious04:46
ArwenVCDs are encoded in MPEG-1 at absurdly low bitrates...04:46
Arwenthat's even worse than DVDs04:46
rraajjseishinbyou: Backstroke of the West was in DVD, wasn't  it? :P04:46
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seishinbyouNot the one I got04:47
Arweno.O warez!04:47
seishinbyouNot quite, Chinese vendor04:47
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seishinbyouwhich is to say...not much, actually04:47
Arwensame thing.04:47
rraajjArwen: Well, it sucks if you have a pre-DVD-era collection. :(04:47
ArwenChinese = warez04:47
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Arwenrraajj, hehe, but yeah, pastebin some logs. I wanna see em.04:48
rraajjFound a similar bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/7273704:48
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cacharodonCoucou :) tout le monde04:49
Aloneado you still need to defragment hdds like in windows sometimes?04:49
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ArwenAlonea, only if your fs usage is over 90%04:50
BluesKaj!fr | cacharodon serche tout le monde04:50
ubotucacharodon serche tout le monde: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:50
Arwenand actually, you don't really need to defrag HDDs in Windows either04:50
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cacharodonthank04:50
dwidmannArwen: I don't know, it really kicks performance in the balls if you don't defrag in windows04:51
Lacrymology"nvidia module not found"04:51
Arwendwidmann, I don't know what kinda Windows you're using, but NTFS doesn't fragment...04:51
Arwenor at least the volume doesn't04:51
LacrymologyArwen, NTFS fragments like hell04:52
ArwenNTFS *volumes* don't fragment04:52
Arwenindividual files can still fragment04:52
Lacrymologythey do04:52
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Arwenthey don't.04:52
Lacrymologythey have some random data in the end of the disk for no apparent reason04:52
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dwidmannEither way, it still slows down after the files start getting really fragmentedish04:52
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Arwen...just like any filesystem04:53
Arwenmy ext partition is at 13% or so fragmentation and I notice it in read speeds..04:53
Lacrymologythat's why you need third party defrag tools in order to repartition the volume after some use04:53
Lacrymologyanyways04:53
cacharodonHy mate i have a problem for listen my mp3 record04:53
cacharodoncan you help me plz04:53
cacharodon?04:53
Daisuke_Idothey have mp3s on vinyl now?04:53
Arwen!restrictedformats | cacharodon04:53
ubotucacharodon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:53
Daisuke_Idosweet04:53
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Lacrymologywhy isn't the nvidia module loaded? how do I?04:54
nosrednaekimArwen: how do you check fragmentation?04:54
Arwennosrednaekim, fsck04:54
nosrednaekimArwen: of course ;)04:54
Daisuke_IdoArwen!  Watch your language, there are children about!04:54
Daisuke_Ido>_>04:54
Daisuke_Idoit's going to be one of those days.04:54
nosrednaekimheh04:54
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido:like me I suppose?04:55
Daisuke_Idoare you under 12 years old and unable to ride the good rollercoasters?04:55
zoohouseI just made another user, if I log into that other user, my root password isn't the same anymore... Why?04:55
ArwenLacrymology, with modprobe04:55
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: I can't ride good(bad) roller coasters... bu i'm over 1204:56
Jucatozoohouse: there is no *root* password. that's the reason04:56
Daisuke_Idoprobably because that other user isn't in sudoers and can't perform administrative tasks04:56
Jucato!sudo | zoohouse04:56
ubotuzoohouse: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:56
nosrednaekimzoohouse: its not actually the root password, but your own (via sudo) password04:56
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: then no, not you :P04:56
Arwen!root | zoohouse04:56
ubotuzoohouse: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:56
Arwengreat factoid :-P04:56
Daisuke_Idoi like that one04:56
Daisuke_Idoneed clever writers for the factoids.  spice things up a little04:57
nosrednaekimArwen: unless of course one does "sudo passwd root"04:57
nosrednaekim!windows04:57
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents04:57
nosrednaekimlol04:57
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zoohousethanks04:57
Daisuke_Idoi miss os/204:57
Daisuke_Idobut not very much04:57
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Arwen!botsnack04:58
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:58
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, uh... why do you miss OS/2?04:58
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Daisuke_Idoi miss it in a sorta passing way, kinda like new kids on the block.  it's a "whatever happened to them?" type of missing04:58
Arwenlol... OS/2 isn't dead... it's just called "Windows NT" now.04:59
Daisuke_Idoi don't particularly care, but it's almost interesting enough to pay attention to04:59
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Daisuke_IdoArwen: ecomstation04:59
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Arwenhmm... I forgot to install my svn build of mplayer after I compiled it :-(04:59
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ArwenDAMN IT04:59
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seishinbyou$B"v"v"v(B USB wireless works  $B"v"v"v(B05:00
zoohouseIf I install adoby flash non free from adept, works fine on my account. But on my new user account. Why?05:00
seishinbyoutoo bad about the built in orinoco, though05:00
Arwenzoohouse, explain how it doesn't work.05:00
zoohouse*But not on my new user account*05:00
Daisuke_IdoArwen: that's also like saying that my grandpa's now called frankenstein just because his brain was pilfered to be put in the monster.05:00
Arwendoes it show in "about:plugins"?05:00
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, ......05:01
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: you had a odd grandfather.05:01
Arwencmon, don't troll.05:01
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zoohouseArwen: when I log into the other user and test for flash, firefox says i need to install flash.05:01
Daisuke_Idoalright, i'll be good05:01
Arwenzoohouse, open firefox in that user and go to the URL "about:config"05:01
Daisuke_Idozoohouse: because it's in /home/user/.mozilla/plugins05:01
zoohouseArwen: ok one sec05:01
zoohouseok05:01
zoohouselet me see05:01
zoohousebrb05:01
Lacrymology!nvidia05:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:02
Daisuke_Idobut follow arwen's advice first05:02
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Daisuke_Idofrick...  i have to be at work in less than 2 hours :\05:02
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zoohouseArwen: ok im there05:03
Daisuke_Idoonly bright side is i'05:03
Arwenzoohouse, is there a flash plugin listed anywhere?05:03
Daisuke_Idoonly work until 7 tonight :)05:03
zoohouselet me fliter brb05:03
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: I'm lucky, I have 17 hours before I have to go back to that !#$@!@$^@!@#$%05:03
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zoohouseArwen: Can't find by flitering flash. When I do, it gives me 2 items which just happen to say flash but is not the plugin.05:04
Arwenzoohouse, huh...05:05
Daisuke_IdoArwen: installing the plugin merely copies the file to th user's .mozilla/plugins directory, right?05:05
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, but he said he installed with adept05:05
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Arwenthat means it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins05:05
zoohouseArwen: let me check to see if it is there05:06
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zoohousejust to make sure05:06
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zoohouseArwen, Daisuke_Ido: yea I see the plugins at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins05:07
Daisuke_Idookay, now it's weird.05:07
Daisuke_Idoand i can't explain it05:07
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zoohouseArwen: when I type config:plugins I see Shockwave Flash is enabled...05:09
PhinnFortwhy osm05:09
PhinnFortwhy isn't automake1.6 available anymore?05:09
Arwenzoohouse, but you can't play any flash?05:09
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zoohouseLet me try again just to confirm on diff sites05:09
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zoohouse:D05:11
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zoohouseIt's working05:11
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Arwenmoron. :-P05:12
zoohousehahaha05:12
zoohouseSorry for the wild goose chase05:12
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nosrednaekimzoohouse: Arwen: guess what? /. loads with the wierd little greed title bars here in firefox..could it be a problem?05:13
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zoohousehaha05:13
nosrednaekimlol05:13
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nosrednaekim*green05:14
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dwidmannI just discovered something nice last night. Kdesktop behaviour - mouse click actions - custom menus :)05:20
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nosrednaekimdwidmann: oh sweet... where'e that?05:21
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frojndwould anyone know why if I listen to music in amarok, and than pause it and open xmms and there start some other music, and than pause it in xmms and resume it in amarok now in amarok music won't that loud but silent... that just weird. Can someone tell me how to fix this05:21
dwidmannright click the desktop, configure desktop, behavior05:22
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PhinnFortfrojnd: stop using XMMS, it's obsolote05:22
PhinnFort*obsolete05:22
PhinnFortfrojnd: AFAIK, Amarok has a XMMS-lookalike thingy05:22
nosrednaekimdwidmann: ok05:23
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dwidmannsettings -> configure amarok -> general -> show player window05:23
frojndPhinnFort: looks like only one audio device can control music volume... I encrease the music in xmms and than resume it in amarok and in amarok was as it was before xmms was started05:24
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PhinnFortfrojnd: well, i don't think alsa supports software mixing, so if you don't have hardware mixing, you can only use one app at a time05:25
PhinnFortbut then you can use software synthesizers, such as ARTS to use several apps to play music05:25
Arwenyou could use a software mixer like arts or esd though05:25
frojndPhinnFort: I allready have installed arts. WHere is this arts ?05:26
PhinnFortfrojnd: I don't think XMMS supports ARTS05:26
Arwen...05:26
PhinnFortfrojnd: if you have KDE running, ARTS should be running already05:26
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PhinnFort(but arts is crap, imho;))05:26
dwidmannonly about 5 months til ARTS's EOL05:27
Arwenarts has been deprecated :-P05:27
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PhinnFortI think arts will live on, it's just getting wrapped in by phono05:27
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PhinnFortand phonon will have several backends, not just arts05:28
familyhow can I increase the size of the icons on the desktop?05:28
PhinnFortfamily: in system settings somewhere05:28
PhinnFortsearch for icons05:28
familyahah, I found it. Thanks.05:29
PhinnFortyw;)05:29
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dwidmann"With KDE 4 aRts will be discontinued and a new API to be used by KDE programs is currently under construction." - multimedia.kde.org05:32
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dranashello05:34
PhinnFortdwidmann: old announcement, the API is Phonon, and it supports multiple backends, including ARTS, afaik05:34
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DaveTheAveHello, I really need help with a Virtual Machine Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right05:35
dwidmannhmm.05:35
dranashey anyone know how to get to kdm setup so i can screw with my login theme?05:36
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PhinnFortdranas: searched for KDm in system settings?05:36
nosrednaekimdranas: its in the theme manager in kcontrol05:37
AaronCampbellDoes anyone have time to help me get my networking working again? I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working again05:37
AaronCampbellIt appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP05:37
AaronCampbellAnd worst of all, it was working fine a few days ago05:37
dranasno the theme manager changes my desktop appearance05:38
dranasthe splash screen is for the thing that shows stuff loading05:38
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DaveTheAveHello, I really need help with a Virtual Machine Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right05:40
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mat1980I've not found a lancher to kcontrol in the menu. Someone know where it is? Or have I to add it everytime I install kubuntu?05:42
nosrednaekimmathias: system settings is the "new" control center.. if you want the old one, you have to add it05:42
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jhutchins_ltmat1980: Easier to just use alt-f2, kdesu kcontrol05:44
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mat1980jhutchins_lt: thanks for the tip, but it's not for me. I know how to start kcontrol. It's for newbie. You know, they usually hate type commands.05:46
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jhutchins_ltmat1980: Teach them, don't coddle them.05:50
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DaveTheAveHello, I really need help with a VMware Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right05:51
dranasso yeah how exactly do i get to change my login acreen05:51
dranasscreen05:51
mat1980jhutchins_lt: you're too optimistic :)05:52
nosrednaekimDaveTheAve: #vmware ?05:52
DaveTheAveNo it's a ubuntu problem05:52
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DaveTheAveeth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: NO such device05:53
nosrednaekimis this within vmware05:53
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DaveTheAveYes it is05:54
DaveTheAvebut I have a flag005:54
DaveTheAveeth005:55
nosrednaekimDaveTheAve: hence my comment to go to #vmware..05:55
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Ind[y] The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!05:55
DaveTheAveno it worked when i had it DHCP but not static with static it started giving me issues05:55
dranasthen remove it?05:56
Ind[y] dranas: how?05:57
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dranaslike i think if you dont enter a password for it, itll go away and leave you alone05:57
Arwen!log05:57
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:57
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ScarFreewillI need to setup a boot loader preferdly grub on my sdc (250gb) I don't have one on there... do I need to chroot? I'm confused?06:07
Minatakusudo grub-install /dev/sdc06:08
MinatakuI believe06:08
Minataku!grub06:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:08
MinatakuCheck out the howtos for detailed info06:08
ScarFreewillthanks06:08
Minatakunp06:09
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david__Can anyone help me install nVidia drivers so i can use beryl?06:11
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mat1980!nvidia06:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:12
mat1980!beryl06:12
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:12
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sebastian__nas06:17
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ScarFreewillI'm still a little confused If I do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdc" wouldn't it install grub to /dev/sda (the one I'm currnetly using) but just for sdc? (I don't want to screw my currnet setup up...)06:17
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MinatakuNo, I don't think so06:18
MinatakuConsidering LiveCD installers have root on the CD-ROM06:18
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: no, it won't06:18
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: now what it will install to sdc is another thing..06:19
ScarFreewillMinataku: thats the prob I installed with alternative..06:19
ScarFreewillok let me tell the tail..06:19
MinatakuStill a LiveCD06:19
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ScarFreewilli've got kubuntu its working (sda) my friend installed kubuntu (sdc) but he loaded his boot loader on his windows hdd... I want to make his linux hdd independant so that he doesn't need his windows hdd to fire up his grub on his linux hdd btw. he has a /boot on his linux partition all that he need (I think) is that stuff in his hdd's boot sector06:22
nosrednaekimyeah, so do that command.06:23
ScarFreewillok so just "sudo grub-install /dev/sdc" and it won't mess my with any other hdd than sdc?06:23
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Arwenwell, no, but it also won't do anything unless sdc is first to boot06:24
nosrednaekimnope.06:24
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yamal!flash06:24
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:24
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ScarFreewillye first boot is sda second sdb third is his hdd sdc06:25
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ScarFreewillshould I do something like this "mount /dev/sdc1? /mnt/" then "chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash" then "grub-install /dev/sdc"06:26
ScarFreewilloops...06:26
nosrednaekimfirst command is right06:26
ScarFreewill"mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/" then ...06:26
nosrednaekimyes06:27
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nosrednaekimsecond command doesn't need the last part06:27
ScarFreewillk06:27
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nosrednaekimthird command is right (assuming menu.lst  on that partition has all the right info)06:27
ScarFreewillyes all his /boot stuff is right06:28
ScarFreewillwell /mnt/boot for that matter...06:28
nosrednaekimok.06:28
ScarFreewill"chroot /mnt" it tells me "chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt: Operation not permitted"06:29
nosrednaekimsudo06:29
ScarFreewill;p06:30
nosrednaekimlol06:30
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DaSkreechI'm having booting issues06:32
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DaSkreechHard drive comes up06:32
ScarFreewillI just wanted to check if every thing was the same in chroot envirment so i did "sudo fdisk -l" it told me "cannot open /proc/partitions" is this nomal this is the second time I've ever been chrooted (first time was in gentoo installation and i didn't have clue what i was doing ;p)06:32
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DaSkreech Grub comes up (very slowly)06:32
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DaSkreechthen I get incorrect file structure06:32
DaSkreechRan a fsck it seems to say everythign is fine/06:32
DaSkreech What files could I be missing?06:32
DaSkreech other than the Kernel06:32
DaSkreechWhich seems to be there06:33
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DaSkreech!chroot | ScarFreewill06:33
ubotuScarFreewill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box06:33
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DaSkreechScarFreewill: that will help you get .proc and /dev mapped properly06:33
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: i wouldn't do anything in there besides grub-install...06:34
ScarFreewillI did sudo grub-install /dev/sdc and it tells me /dev/sdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.06:34
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nosrednaekimScarFreewill: hmm..06:35
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nosrednaekimsee if sdc is in /dev06:36
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ScarFreewillk06:36
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ScarFreewillthere is like 20 partitions on my sdc but its there06:37
ScarFreewillit also looked like my /dev has x3 in hardware/files06:37
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nosrednaekimjust curious, check if there is a /dev/sdd06:38
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ScarFreewillyup and almost to o06:38
ScarFreewill(sdo)06:38
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: hmm... have you ever booted this installation?06:39
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ScarFreewillwell not on my pc since that is why I want to boot loader for06:39
ScarFreewillshould I try to install the bootloader in his pc?06:39
nosrednaekimwait... does your computer have two hard drives besides this one?06:40
nosrednaekimand yes, i'd do it in his.06:40
ScarFreewillyes (250 linux myne--120win myne--250linux his)06:40
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nosrednaekimall sata?06:41
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ScarFreewillthe only prob is he doesn't have internet (this is south africa everything is very expancive especaly technoligy... except for linux...)06:41
ScarFreewillyes all sata06:42
nosrednaekimand all his are sata?06:42
ScarFreewillyes as far is I know06:42
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: do a df, see what partition of what disc chroot thinks its in06:43
DaSkreechScarFreewill: Do they have those Linux kiosks that I keep hearing about down there?06:43
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ScarFreewillDaSkreech: lol I don't know what is kiosks ;p06:44
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ScarFreewillnosrednaekim: /dev/sdb1             18366468   1961328  15472168  12% /06:44
nosrednaekimahh ha... so it thinks its on sdb106:44
ScarFreewillnosrednaekim: that 18gb partition looks like his linux partition (sdc1)06:45
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ScarFreewillso should I try to grub the sdb?06:45
nosrednaekimyeah,...... so it thinks its hdb.... yeah....06:45
nosrednaekimdo that.06:45
ScarFreewillhdb?06:46
nosrednaekimyeah.06:46
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ScarFreewillisn't it sdb?06:46
ScarFreewillsudo grub-install /dev/hdb?06:46
nosrednaekimno wait.. sorry06:46
nosrednaekimno.. sdb, my bad06:46
nosrednaekimi'm used to thinking h06:46
ScarFreewillnp06:46
ScarFreewillThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.06:47
ScarFreewill;p06:47
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DaSkreechHi Mez06:47
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ScarFreewillI guess I format is in oder ;p06:49
nosrednaekimScarFreewill: not neccesarily..06:49
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ScarFreewillwell there is no important files on his linux partitoin ....06:49
ScarFreewillhe just installed last night06:49
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nosrednaekimScarFreewill: ok, yeah, I guess you can reformat, but i'm not quite sure what the problem is.06:50
ScarFreewillthanks a lot for you help though I'm learned quite a lot :D06:50
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ScarFreewillI'm going to go to his house now and just going to reinstall it...06:51
Mezhi DaSkreech06:51
DaSkreechScarFreewill: Wait06:51
DaSkreechScarFreewill: http://www.go-opensource.org/campaign/partners/freedom_toaster/4/06:51
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DaSkreechThat was it the freedom toaster06:51
mathias_hello06:51
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nosrednaekim'lo06:51
ScarFreewillDaSkreech: yes I know that :D06:51
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DaSkreechScarFreewill: those really exist around the place?06:52
DaSkreechhttp://www.freedomtoaster.org/06:52
DaSkreechMez: how goes?06:52
ScarFreewillDaSkreech: I have not used one but I hear its not to updated (I've got 64kb/s uncaped internet so I don't really need that) yes they do exist06:52
david__How do i install drivers for an nVidia GeForce FX 5200? the info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia didn't help/work06:52
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nosrednaekimdavid__: easiest way is to get the restricted manager, and use that06:53
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: Any idea what could be my booting issue?06:53
nosrednaekimDaSkreech:  bad HD?06:53
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david__nosrednaekim: how would igo about doing that?06:54
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: :-P I just got it and I can mount it fine06:54
DaSkreechThough I do understand that mounting doesn't mean that the file structure is correct06:54
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DaSkreech fsck clears it though06:54
nosrednaekimdavid__: " sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"06:55
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nosrednaekimDaSkreech: reiser? hpmh.06:55
DaSkreechYeah I know06:55
nosrednaekimI hate the reiserFS06:55
nosrednaekimtoo heavy on CPU06:55
DaSkreechI'm starting to as well06:55
nosrednaekimext3 is better06:55
DaSkreechWinder if he's out of jail yet06:55
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: I think he's on bail06:56
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nosrednaekimI believe that tutorial that you went to refers to the restricted manager.06:56
nosrednaekimdavid__: ^^06:56
DaSkreechSo What files would it be looking for that don't cause a kernel panic?06:56
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: sorry, could you restate your problem? you are getting a kernel panic?06:56
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david__nosrednaekim: it's installing it and it's deps right now06:57
DaSkreechNo06:57
nosrednaekimdavid__: ok06:57
DaSkreechMy machine cmoes up06:57
nosrednaekimdoes what?06:57
nosrednaekimoh.. comes06:57
nosrednaekimbut its slow?06:57
DaSkreechThe BIOS etc can see my drive SMART doesn't spout off. (Should install smartmontools shouldn't I?)06:57
DaSkreechGRUB comes up06:57
DaSkreech Very slowly06:57
DaSkreechthen I get a 16 incorrect file structure06:58
nosrednaekimlike it hands on loading stage 1.5 for a while?06:58
DaSkreechYes06:58
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: oh.. you have ti reinstall grub06:58
nosrednaekim*tp06:58
DaSkreechaw sweet :)06:58
nosrednaekim*to06:58
DaSkreech!grub06:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:58
david__nosrednaekim: it came up with 3 errors when i tried to start it06:59
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nosrednaekimDaSkreech: you can temporarily boot by using the livecd to replace your grub06:59
nosrednaekimdavid__: what are they?06:59
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: I know I'm on the live CD now07:00
nosrednaekimmake sure you do "kdesu restricted-manager"07:00
david__nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not find module /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko07:00
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david__nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory07:00
david__nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory07:00
nosrednaekimdavid__: this is printed in the konsole when you start restricted manager?07:01
david__nosrednaekim: yeah07:01
nosrednaekimand resctritedmanager refuses to start?07:01
david__nosrednaekim: yup07:01
nosrednaekimdid you run "kdesu restricted-manager"?07:02
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david__nosrednaekim: i ran it with sudo07:02
nosrednaekimdo kdesu.07:02
nosrednaekimnot sure if sudo works..07:02
nosrednaekimjust try kdesu07:02
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david__nosrednaekim: same thing happened07:03
nosrednaekimdavid__: hmm sudo works here....07:03
nosrednaekimodd... oh well, you can do it the manual way (its not hard)07:04
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nosrednaekimstart adept-manager07:04
david__nosrednaekim: it's started07:05
nosrednaekimdavid__: search for nvidia-glx07:06
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nosrednaekimdavid__: do you know the model of your nvdia graphhics card?07:06
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jim88I need help ... I cannot remove helix player ... I've tried sudo apt-get remove helix-player ... and it I get  the error Errors were encountered while processing:07:06
jim88 /var/cache/apt/archives/helix-player_1.0.6-3_i386.deb07:06
jim88E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:06
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jim88sorry07:06
DaSkreechjim88: Sorry?07:07
david__nosrednaekim: it's a GeForce FX 5200, and adept says i have nvidia-glx-legacy installed07:07
jim88I should have used pastebin07:07
DaSkreechjim88: You figured it out?07:07
nosrednaekimdavid__: hmm remove that.07:07
jim88nope07:07
DaSkreechjim88: Ah07:07
DaSkreechjim88: remove that file. You used apt-get to install helix ?07:07
david__nosrednaekim: it's set to remove07:07
nosrednaekimdavid__: that could be causing problems.07:07
nosrednaekimhit apply07:07
jim88I don't remember07:07
jim88so all I have to do is remove the /var/chache?07:08
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david__nosrednaekim: done, now what?07:08
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nosrednaekiminstall nvidia-glx-new07:09
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david__nosrednaekim: it's d/l'ing and installing now07:09
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DaSkreechjim88: yeah it doesn't hurt anything except download times07:09
nosrednaekimdavid__: ok07:09
jim88ok07:09
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david__nosrednaekim: there was an error committing changes07:10
nosrednaekimwhat was it?07:10
david__nosrednaekim: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."07:11
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nosrednaekimwas there any details section? or anythin?07:11
david__nosrednaekim: nope, just a dialog saying that07:11
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nosrednaekimok, close adept and run this on the command line "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"07:12
nosrednaekimthat'll give us a better error message07:12
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david__nosrednaekim:07:13
david__Unpacking nvidia-glx-new (from .../nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb) ...07:13
david__dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb (--unpack):07:13
david__ trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-settings', which is also in package nvidia-settings07:13
david__dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)07:13
david__Errors were encountered while processing:07:13
david__ /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb07:13
david__E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:13
nosrednaekim! pastebin07:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:13
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xstNo matter how hard I try I have not been able to enable an external monitor to my laptop. Every time I configure a secondary monitor in "system settings" X won't restart. What should I do?07:14
nosrednaekimdavid__: oh ok... "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-settings"07:14
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david__nosrednaekim: it removed with no problems07:15
david__nosrednaekim: should i try installing nvidia-glx-new again?07:15
nosrednaekimrun that previous command again... you can reach it by pressing the up arrow07:15
nosrednaekimyes07:15
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david__nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26626/07:16
DaSkreechjim88: You don't remember how you installed helix?07:16
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david__nosrednaekim: should i remove nvidia-xconfig if it is installed?07:17
DaSkreechxst: alt+ctrl+backspace restarts X07:17
nosrednaekimdavid__: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-xconfig"07:17
nosrednaekimyeah07:17
david__nosrednaekim: removed without a problem, imma try to install nvidia-glx-new again07:18
nosrednaekimdavid__: your problem was that you installed the wrong nvidia drivers. You installed the ones for legacy card (before 2002)07:18
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nosrednaekimok07:18
xstDaSkreech: Yes it *tries* to restart X but it cannot. It won't start again07:18
jim88DaSkreech: I don't remeber how I installed helix but I am still getting an error that I cannot remove helix-player07:18
DaSkreechxst: Ah07:18
DaSkreech!xinerama07:18
jim88DaSkreech: I don't remeber how I installed helix but I am still getting an error that I cannot remove helix-player ... it wants to install it07:18
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:18
david__nosrednaekim: it installed problem-free07:19
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nosrednaekimdavid__: ok!07:19
DaSkreechjim88: Well can You pastebin your sources?07:19
jim88one sec07:19
DaSkreechjim88: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list07:19
david__nosrednaekim: now what do i do?07:19
nosrednaekimdavid__:07:19
nosrednaekimjust a second07:19
david__nosrednaekim: k07:20
DaSkreech!Dualhead | xst07:20
ubotuxst: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:20
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hammerhi07:21
hammer!java07:21
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:21
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jim88DaSkreech:  here is my sources.list  http://pastebin.ca/58170207:23
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polopolois a new amaroK out?07:23
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nosrednaekimdavid__: ok, see if you have this command "nvidia-xconfig"07:23
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SlimG2polopolo: yes07:24
SlimG2polopolo: http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/23407:24
david__nosrednaekim: ok07:24
polopoloaha, ok, but where I come for07:24
david__nosrednaekim: i've got it07:24
polopolontfs-config works not on my pc07:24
nosrednaekimdavid__: run it07:24
DaSkreechpolopolo: today07:24
nosrednaekimdavid__: with a sudo07:24
polopoloi've installed but when I run it, nothing happend07:25
david__nosrednaekim: ran with no errors07:25
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nosrednaekimdavid__: ok, could you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:25
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david__gimme a sec to open it in kate07:25
nosrednaekimdavid__: no problem07:26
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polopolonobody knows the answer?07:27
david__nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26627/07:27
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DaSkreechpolopolo: tried ntfs3g?07:28
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polopolohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite#head-c067eb7e3cd4107cc08cdf30a9e1aed8adb0297107:29
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nosrednaekimdavid__: ok, log out, click on the little menu in kdm, and select restart x07:29
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david__nosrednaekim: and if X doesn't come up?07:29
nosrednaekimand oh yeah.. cross your fingers07:29
nosrednaekim:-D07:29
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david__nosrednaekim: i'll restore from the backup xorg.conf if it doesn't work and come back here, if it does work, i'll come back here07:30
jim88DaSkreech:  did you get my pastebin?   http://pastebin.ca/58170207:30
nosrednaekimdavid__: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and select the nv driver07:30
nosrednaekimdavid__: that works!07:30
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DaSkreechjim88: ok07:31
david__nosrednaekim: right now?07:31
polopoloNobody has answer for my?07:31
nosrednaekimdavid__: no time like the present07:31
david__nosrednaekim: right now?07:31
nosrednaekimdavid__: yeah07:31
DaSkreechjim88: you seem to have a pretty standard (bad Automatix!) set of repos07:31
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david__nosrednaekim: select the nvidia driver?07:32
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DaSkreechjim88: what command are you running?07:32
Kjellvizhey, i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kde desktop on top, where did all those funky screensavers i had in gnome go ?07:32
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jim88DaSkreech:  command for what?07:32
nosrednaekimdavid__: no no..07:32
DaSkreechjim88: removing helix07:32
nosrednaekimI meant that if you were stuck without x, thats how you get it back07:33
polopolonobody has the answer, I go to the forums then :(07:33
jim88DaSkreech:  sudo apt-get remove helix-player07:33
zipperFor some reason, my kubuntu feisty installation has begun to get unresponsive for a couple of minutes once in a while. This has never been a problem before, and since i havent updated or installed anything i don't know what could be causing this. Any ideas?07:33
DaSkreechjim88: and it complains about the cache?07:33
jim88yes07:33
Kjellvizzipper: do u have a wireless card installed ?07:34
david__nosrednaekim: ok :) i'm gonna go restart it now.07:34
zipperKjellviz, no07:34
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DaSkreechjim88: can you do a sudo dpkg --configure -a ?07:34
nosrednaekimdavid__: see ya! (I hope)07:34
Kjellvizzipper: ok, then i dunno, thats what made my installation become buggy and crash ><07:34
zipperKjellviz, hmm i see. Well, thanks anyway.07:34
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jim88DaSkreech:  it says  errors were encountered while processing mozilla-helix-player07:35
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DaSkreechjim88: is there a file called helix-player_1.0.6-3_i386.deb in the cache folder ?07:36
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jim88DaSkreech:  you told me to delete it earlier and I did from the var/cache file07:37
DaSkreechjim88: k07:37
DaSkreechjim88: try reinstall it07:38
DaSkreechthen remove it :)07:38
xmanDoes anybody know a channel for kernel/hardware issues besides #linux ?07:38
jim88that's what I was having problems with ... it would not delete and I got errors07:38
xmanOne with good kernel.hardware knowledge ?07:38
metbsdi why i dl kubuntu but it says ubuntu 7.0407:38
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DaSkreechxman: #hardware ?07:39
Fra_221187salve07:39
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xmanNobody answers ...07:40
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DaSkreech!paitence07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
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nosrednaekim!patience07:40
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:40
Fra_221187scusate la domanda che sicuramente avranno gi fatto in molti, ma sto provando kubuntu dopo un bel po di ubuntu alle spalle: c' un modo per attivare compiz in automatico come in ubuntu feisty o bisogna installarlo a mano? grazie07:40
DaSkreech!it07:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:40
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xmanI'm waiting like 20 mins07:41
Fra_221187preciso che non mi interessa la 0.4 o 0.507:41
xmanAnd waiting ... and then some more ...07:41
DaSkreechxman: in ##linux ?07:41
xmanMaybe it's something with the channel ...07:41
Fra_221187i'm sorry, i'm going to the italian channel ;)07:41
Fra_221187bye07:41
DaSkreechthat's one of the busier channels07:41
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Kjellvizhey, if you dont enjoy the waiting in a free support channel i suggest you pay for support ><07:42
xmanDaSkreech: Nobody knew what was happening ... so ... bummer ...07:42
DaSkreechxman: what hardware?07:42
xmanmobo: ABit KT7A07:42
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DaSkreechjim88: as far as I know a remove command shouldn't even check the cache07:42
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DaSkreechHi ompaul07:42
david__nosrednaekim: ok, i restarted, and it didn't work.07:42
nosrednaekimdavid__: you restored the backup?07:43
xmanKjellviz: I don't minfd waiting. I just don't know if i'm asking where i should :\07:43
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david__nosrednaekim: i ran the command you gave me and switch to the nv driver07:43
ompaulDaSkreech, evening07:43
nosrednaekimand that brought it back? or not..07:43
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chris_scummettehi there07:44
jhutchins_ltxman: What's the question?  I think that's what I have upstairs.07:44
chris_scummettei was wondering07:44
david__nosrednaekim: the command with the nv driver brought me back into X07:44
chris_scummettesomthing07:44
DaSkreechxman: Sup with it?07:44
xmanUGH07:44
xmanHere it comes07:44
DaSkreech!ask | chris_scummette07:44
ubotuchris_scummette: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:44
andy_hi07:44
nosrednaekimdavid__: ok... well run that command again, and this time select the nvidia driver. then Reboot.07:44
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chris_scummetteits kinda dumb ^^07:44
nosrednaekimjust to be sure07:44
xmanMy system spends insame amounts of time on IOWAITS07:44
david__ok07:44
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chris_scummettei was wonderig are there any anti-virus for kubuntu07:45
xmanTried as much that i could fill a novel07:45
DaSkreechxman: what chipset ?07:45
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jhutchins_ltxman: bad HD or controller.07:45
xmanNothing works ...07:45
xmanAll of them ?07:45
chris_scummettei know linux is not the favorite aim but...07:45
DaSkreech!virus | chris_scummette07:45
ubotuchris_scummette: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:45
zombielioni was wonderin ghow i get divx and xvid videos to play in kubuntu07:45
chris_scummetteperfect !07:45
chris_scummettehehe07:45
xmanVia07:45
DaSkreech!codecs | zombielion07:45
ubotuzombielion: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:45
andy_i run kubuntu n so far i cant find n e anti virus stuff07:45
chris_scummettecause some of my contacts on msn have been atacked07:45
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DaSkreechxman: That's a company :)07:46
xmanNb KT133A, Sb 686b07:46
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david__nosrednaekim: i'll see you in a few minutes, hopefully.07:46
nosrednaekimdavid__: yeah07:46
xmanDaSkreech: you type faster then i think :)07:46
DaSkreechxman: and you haven't seen any reports from a Net search on your problem ?07:46
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leileilolnihao07:47
xmanYeah, right. I wish. Ireally wish i did so.07:47
xmanBut no.07:47
DaSkreechxman: Maybe it's not the motherboard?07:47
xmanAll say something about 686b bug and skipped sound with sblive which i don't have (anymore)07:47
DaSkreechAh sb :-)07:48
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xmanDaSkreech: Any good ideas ?07:48
zombielionim tottaly new to linux and i have no idea how to get divx and xvid to work if it will even work can someone kinda walk me thru or soemthing07:48
xmanAny bad ones ?07:48
DaSkreechxman: this is Storage IO you are waiting on?07:48
xmanAHA.07:48
Kjellvizzombielion: install and use VLC media player07:49
DaSkreechzombielion: did you read the page ubotu just mentioned to you?07:49
zombielioni have been trying but i dont know how07:49
xmanAnything to do with physical storage kills my CPU07:49
Kjellvizzombielion: what it want play u can just delete ><07:49
DaSkreechxman: tried switching your IDE cables?07:49
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jhutchins_ltxman: Haven't you been dealing with this for like several weeks or months now?07:49
xmanBe it CD/DVD, HDD, USB07:49
zombielion? kjellviz07:49
xmanjhutchins_lt: Glad you remembered :)07:49
DaSkreechKjellviz: If you are't being helpful please wait in #kubuntu-offtopic07:49
jhutchins_ltxman: It's not gonna get better.07:49
xmanJust tried some kernel params07:50
jhutchins_ltxman: Let me guess, didn't help.07:50
xmanjhutchins_lt: Twist the knive, will you ?07:50
DaSkreechxman: would you happen to have any friends with the same motherboard model? Or family at least ?07:50
KjellvizDaSkreech: uhm ? for starters im waiting for answer to my own question, furthermore i gave him a reasonable solution that worked wonders for me!07:50
DaSkreechzombielion: Did you see the page that ubotu mentioned to you?07:50
DaSkreechKjellviz: What's your question?07:51
xmannoapic, nolapic, acpi=off, acpi=noirq, noapictimer, irqpoll etc etc ad nauseam07:51
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xmanDaSkreech: I do. Same stuff, hardware and software.07:51
KjellvizDaSkreech: i installed kde desktop on my ubuntu installation and wonder where all those nice screensavers i had in Gnome are now07:51
xmanSame problem07:51
Kjellvizzombielion: what i said was try installing a mediaplayer called VLC07:52
DaSkreechxman: Really? Thats interesting07:52
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xmanAlso on an nvidia nf2 powered ABIT AN707:52
DaSkreechKjellviz: they are managed by gnome-screensaver07:52
Kjellvizzombielion: it should play most divx and xvids without having the need of installing extra codecs07:52
xmanCouldn't get my hands on any intel system tho ...07:52
chris_scummetteis there any french kubuntu room?07:52
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DaSkreech!fr07:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:52
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KjellvizDaSkreech: ok, so basically i would need to run gnome to use them ?07:53
zombielionya i am kinda looking at them linux is confusing and i have tried to get vlc player but i just dont know how07:53
zombieliondo the same way to do stuff apply for kubuntu07:53
zombielioneverything is in ubuntu07:53
phpcodeHow to open a rar file?07:53
metbsdhow do i configure wireless card?07:53
DaSkreechKjellviz: Umm Maybe not. but they may be kept somewhere that KDE isn't expecting07:53
nosrednaekimmetbsd: iwconfig07:53
zombielionhow do i install that07:53
DaSkreechKjellviz: I can tell you you shoudl start looking in /usr/share07:53
metbsdas regular user?07:54
zombielioni have been trying to since last night and i dont know what i am doing07:54
DaSkreechzombielion: ok What version of Kubuntu are you using?07:54
metbsdi have one ath007:54
nosrednaekimmetbsd: you can, but to make any changes to it, you have to be in sudo07:54
zombielion7.04 i think fiesty fawn07:54
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KjellvizDaSkreech: ok, well its no biggie, sure i can browse for them :)  also i guess there are some downloadable screensavers for kde07:54
chris_scummetteanother dumb thing i was wondering07:54
nosrednaekimmetbsd: ok, could you pastebin the output?07:54
metbsdcan you teach me how to do it?07:54
chris_scummetteabout...07:54
chris_scummettedefrag07:54
jhutchins_ltxman: The RAID feature available on that motherboard routinely destroyed data.07:55
metbsdno07:55
DaSkreechzombielion: Do you have adept open?07:55
metbsdi have no internet connection07:55
xmanI have the nonraid version ....07:55
metbsdcannot paste07:55
DaSkreechKjellviz: yes kdescreensavers as I recall07:55
chris_scummetteat work i had to defrag today and i was wondering "does kubuntu has these problems"07:55
xmanBut what's the use ...07:55
metbsdIEEE 802.11g07:55
DaSkreech!info kdescreensavers07:55
metbsdESSID empty07:55
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metbsdMode managed07:55
ubotuPackage kdescreensavers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:55
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metbsdfreq 2.437 GHz07:55
zombielionno which one the add/remove one or the manager07:55
nosrednaekimmetbsd: stop stop07:55
ashu18hello??? i need help07:55
nosrednaekimashu18: whats the problem?07:56
KjellvizDaSkreech: thanks you are mighy helpful, and im stunned by your multitasking capability! =D07:56
zombielionok i have adapt manager open07:56
nosrednaekimzombielion: search for vlc07:56
ashu18i am an ubuntu user...but it won't acceot my cds at all.....so i am thinking of changing to kubuntu...but i get an error message there too07:56
zombielionnothing07:56
DaSkreechzombielion: the manager07:57
zombielioni have the manager open and i came back with nothing07:57
DaSkreechashu18: accept your cds ?07:57
nosrednaekimashu18: accept your cds? could you be a bit more specific?07:57
DaSkreechzombielion: under the adept menu go to manage repos07:57
ashu18it's something like "only root can access unionfs in / "07:57
zombielionok done07:57
DaSkreechzombielion: you should have a set of checkboxes with two unchecked ?07:57
ashu18i mean it doesn't respond if i insert a CD07:57
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metbsdso, no help for me?07:58
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zombielionin which tab07:58
jim88DaSkreech:  I get an new error when I go to install helix-player ... http://pastebin.ca/58174707:58
zombielionkubuntu software tab?07:58
nosrednaekimmetbsd: "sudo iwlist ath0 scan"07:59
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DaSkreechzombielion: first one07:59
metbsdwhat password?07:59
DaSkreechzombielion: are all the checkmarks checked?07:59
ashu18i am using ubuntu right now...i will switch over to kubuntu only if it will take in the CDs07:59
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DaSkreechjim88: You have realplayer installed as well?08:00
chris_scummettewhy doesn't K recognize my floppy ?08:00
nosrednaekimmetbsd: your password08:00
jim88DaSkreech:  I think so08:00
metbsdwhat's password08:00
DaSkreechashu18: there was a tutorial on how to get that to work ...08:00
ashu18where??08:00
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ashu18i am new linux so i am having loads of trouble with all these commands and all08:01
ashu18'new to linux'08:01
nosrednaekimashu18: what are trying to mount a unionfs for?08:01
nosrednaekimwhat cd are you trying to load?08:01
DaSkreechashu18: Sorry about that :)08:01
DaSkreechjim88: How did you install that?08:01
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ashu18well i am pathetic...i don't what on earth unionfs is supposed to be08:02
metbsdnosrednaekim, i see the essid abc08:02
metbsdnosrednaekim, what to do next?08:02
DaSkreechashu18: that's ok what kind of CD is it?08:02
jim88I think thru automatix08:02
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nosrednaekimmetbsd: "sudo iwconfig ath0 ESSID abc"08:03
metbsdwhat about password?08:03
metbsdi have a password for abc08:03
DaSkreechjim88: Just checking have you asked in #automatix ?08:03
nosrednaekimmetbsd: is it WEP?08:03
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metbsdnot sure08:03
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nosrednaekimmetbsd: that iwlist command would tell you08:04
DaSkreechashu18: What is on the CD?08:04
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jim88DaSkreech:  it won't let me delete anything because of the helix-player issue ... I've even tried deleting realplayer and all I get is the error I posted08:05
metbsdwpa version108:05
nosrednaekimmetbsd: errr... now thats going to be hard.08:05
metbsdwpa2 version 108:05
DaSkreechjim88: Yeah. Automatix can be a pain08:05
nosrednaekimmetbsd: you have to use the network manager08:05
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metbsdwhere08:06
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nosrednaekimmetbsd: do you see it in your panel?08:06
DaSkreechjim88: can you join #automatix ?08:06
chris_scummetteflopppppppppppies08:06
chris_scummettei need help about floppy drives!08:06
nosrednaekimmetbsd: you are running 7.04 fiesty right?08:06
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metbsdy08:06
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nosrednaekimbecause it matters..08:06
ashu18hey i am back08:06
metbsdi launch it, but it does not come out08:06
metbsdyes it's 7.0408:07
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ashu18i am using the kubuntu live cd08:07
DaSkreech!floppy08:07
nosrednaekimmetbsd: it should be on your panel08:07
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone08:07
chris_scummettealright08:07
DaSkreechchris_scummette: see if ^^^ helps08:07
nosrednaekimashu18: ok, so whats the problem?08:07
ashu18well if i rdouble click on cd rom or cd rw icon, this error message shows:08:08
nosrednaekimmetbsd: I have to go...08:08
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ashu18The desktop entry file08:08
ashu18/home/ubuntu/Desktop/CDWRITER Device08:08
ashu18is of type FSDevice but has no Dev=... entry.08:08
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ashu18is kubuntu totally different from ubuntu?08:09
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DaSkreechashu18: not very much different08:10
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yurimxpxmancould someone please help me with this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26643/08:10
DaSkreechashu18: just a different interface08:10
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ashu18ok, now what about my problem??08:11
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DaSkreechyurimxpxman: can you ask in #winehq as well ?08:12
DaSkreechashu18: You have two CD drives?08:12
yurimxpxmanDaSkreech: I did, but nobody seems to be there08:12
ashu18one guy in the #ubuntu channel did something called 'ssh' and told me that it's a hardware problem08:12
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ashu18no just one cd-rw drive08:12
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DaSkreechashu18: He logged into your machine08:13
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ashu18whatever he told that it's hardware problem...what do you reckon???08:14
yurimxpxmanDaSkreech: do you have any ideas?08:14
DaSkreechyurimxpxman: not really jsut glanced and saw it was a wine error08:14
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ashu18should i replace ubuntu with kubuntu on my machine??08:15
DaSkreechashu18: You can't see anything from your CD rom?08:16
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ashu18No, it won't accept ANYTHING08:16
DaSkreechashu18: do you mind me using you to poke around a bit ?08:17
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DaSkreech!automount08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
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ashu18not at all08:17
DaSkreechashu18: can you open a konsole and type ls /dev/hd then press tab twice ?08:18
ashu18but i am VERY tired doing all these stuff08:18
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ashu18i hav been doing these for about 20 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(08:18
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DaSkreechashu18: really? That's not right08:19
ashu18anyway konsole is like Terminal of ubuntu, right??08:19
DaSkreechashu18: yes08:19
DaSkreechashu18: press alt+space and type konsole08:19
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ashu18nothing happens after i press Tab twice08:20
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jhutchins_ltyurimxpxman: What's that supposed to be?08:20
DaSkreechashu18: really?08:20
ashu18yeah08:20
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DaSkreechashu18: umm ok take off the hd and try sd08:20
MrBallZhi, how long does it take , to get new Amarok , thru the kubuntu repos ... it was released today ... or should I just upgrade bymyself ...08:20
DaSkreechso ls /dev/sd tab twice08:20
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DaSkreechMrBallZ: it will probably be there in a few hours08:21
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jhutchins_ltYou know, this business of making all storage devices mount root only on a system where there is no root user is pretty dumb.08:21
shady-!nvidia08:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:21
metbsdhow do i keep my system up to date?08:21
ashu18DaSkreech: can't you plz use that ssh thing to poke around urself????? i am getting really frustrated......08:21
DaSkreechashu18: ok What's your IP address ?08:22
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ksivajimetbsd use adept-updater08:22
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ashu18i changed to linux for personal use, not to learn commands.............08:22
yurimxpxmanjhutchins_lt: it's an old educational game08:22
ashu18how do i know in kubuntu???08:22
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jhutchins_ltashu18: If you don't want to learn anything, you should probably go back to windows.08:22
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ScarFreewill!mp308:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:23
jhutchins_ltashu18: There are other distributions that default to mounting storage as read-all, but they have things you need to learn about them also.08:23
ashu18well i HAVE tried to learn for a month, and i still haven't solved this silly mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can put yourself in a situation once!!!08:23
ScarFreewill!nvidia08:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:23
DaSkreechjim88: hello?08:24
ScarFreewill!beryl08:24
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:24
ashu18i really can't expect to stay with an OS which won't take in CDs08:24
jhutchins_ltashu18: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde desktop instead of gnome, it's really not going to run very differently.08:24
jhutchins_ltashu18: I agree that the behavior is annoying.08:24
shady-As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager. <-- help.. i'm using kunbutu and i can't find it08:24
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ashu18is there any other good distro??08:25
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: it's how it's mounting that's the issue?08:25
ashu18i don't have windows cd either08:25
ksivajiashu18 kubuntu08:25
metbsdso how do i mount my ntfs08:25
ashu18ksivaji: what are you doing here???08:26
DaSkreech!ntfs | metbsd08:26
ubotumetbsd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:26
jhutchins_ltyurimxpxman: You can sometimes go to winehq.com and get the latest release, sometimes that will work.  The game may need to be installed or something.  I think there's a good #wine channel too.08:26
ksivaji!ntfs | metbsd08:26
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ksivajiashu18 this is my home channel08:26
ashu18ksivaji so you are more of a kubuntu guy???08:26
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: can you change the main user that CDs mount as ?08:26
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jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: Yeah, I think you can do that with fstab.08:27
DaSkreechHAL manages taht right?08:27
ksivajiashu18 yes08:27
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ashu18ksivaji: can you help my plight then???08:27
jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: Yeah, hal, and nobody can tell which layer is actually in control, so...08:27
ksivajino i am just started learning08:28
ashu18oops08:28
ksivajiashu18 moreover you are not cooperating08:28
DaSkreechashu18: who told you that it was a hardware issue?08:28
ashu18i am...i am just irritated08:28
ashu18someone called '08:28
ashu18gonzoism from the #ubuntu channel08:28
ksivajiashu18 i feel very sad for you but you are funny in #ubuntu-in08:29
fnordperfectwhy are there so few fonts selectable in konsole? I'd like the one which ships with xfonts-dosemu..!08:29
ashu18ksivaji: may i ask you to use my desktop for a day??? you will become funny yourself08:29
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ashu18ksivaji: are there other guys from #ubuntu-in here too?08:30
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ksivajinope08:31
DaSkreechI would guess yes :)08:31
ashu18DaSkreech: can u just try ssh plz?? i am feeling sleepy............08:31
DaSkreechashu18: type ifconfig and give me your IP address08:32
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DaSkreechashu18: Though I would guess you are behind a DSL Modem08:32
ashu18yep08:32
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ashu18DaSkreech: But i am still using the live cd....will i install first and then you will enter my system???08:33
DaSkreechashu18: What is installed on the machine now?08:33
ashu18ubuntu08:33
DaSkreechI'd prefer just looking at that.08:34
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ashu18you mean ubuntu?????08:34
DaSkreechThat way you can test if CDs work08:34
DaSkreechYes08:35
mcquaidi had the flash plugin working fine in konq.  But I removed the pkg via apt and manually installed a newer version08:35
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ashu18ok, let me boot in ubuntu first...see u in a minute08:35
mcquaidit still works in firefox but not konq.  I had it rescan for plugins but no dice08:35
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mcquaidi manually copied libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins08:35
mcquaidit's listed in konq as directories to scan but it's not working08:36
mcquaidany suggestions?08:36
metbsdi've mount ntfs , but i can't access it08:36
jhutchins_ltmcquaid: Same problem, different distro.  File or vote on a bugreport.08:36
DaSkreechmetbsd: how did you mount it?08:36
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mcquaidjhutchins_lt, you have the same problem?08:36
metbsdsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt08:36
mcquaidstrange it was working with the package08:36
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mcquaidwhat is the apt pkg doing differently?08:37
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metbsdi've mount ntfs , but i can't access it08:37
metbsdsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt08:37
DaSkreechmetbsd: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt - umask=02208:38
mcquaidwhy aren't you using ntfs-3g?08:38
mcquaidgives me no probs mounting ntfs with read/write08:38
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metbsdi'm newbie08:38
metbsdi used to use bsd unix08:39
mcquaidah08:39
mcquaidwell install ntfs-3g08:39
ashu18DaSkreech: why do you need my ip?? the other guy used my account password only08:39
DaSkreechmcquaid: didn't say that he couldn't write08:39
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jetsaredimany packages of the new amarok08:39
mcquaidmount like so ntfs-3g /dev/hda5 /media/xp/08:39
DaSkreechashu18: Of course :-)08:39
mcquaidno i know he has read access issues.  just at this point I don't see why someone wouldn't use ntfs-3g even just for reading08:39
ashu18so u just want the password??08:40
mcquaidwell when it's mounted can root read it? I assume yes08:40
DaSkreechashu18: yes08:40
mcquaidif so, you haven't given yourself permissions for other users to read where your mounting it08:40
ashu18got it??08:40
mcquaidbut to change permissions you have to unmount it first08:41
DaSkreechashu18: nope :(08:41
DaSkreechashu18: are you on a IM?08:41
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metbsdhow do i update system and install that ntfs-eg08:41
ashu18yeah...XChat08:41
DaSkreech:-P other than that smarty08:41
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ashu18no08:42
DaSkreech!ntfs-3g08:42
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:42
DaSkreechashu18: are you registered with Nickserv ?08:42
ashu18what????????08:42
ashu18no08:42
DaSkreechashu18: you tried to send me a Private message ?08:42
ashu18yes08:43
ashu18didn't u get it??08:43
DaSkreech!register | ashu1808:43
ubotuashu18: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:43
DaSkreechno You have to register with the nickserver08:43
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ashu18did you get it from ashu19???08:45
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ashu19DaSkreech: did you get the password?08:46
jhutchins_lt!register08:46
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:46
DaSkreechashu19: are you registered ?08:46
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ashu19i cant register now...ok the password is:08:47
ashu191234508:47
ashu19now can u ssh???08:48
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ksivajiashu19 must have ssh installled and started08:48
DaSkreechashu18: You can answer me yes or no in the main chan08:49
ashu19in the main what?08:49
iarwain_hiya, anyone know why i get the 'No SConstruct file found' error while using scons? how can i help it?08:49
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tookhow do I enable the option to double click to open folder?08:50
shane2peruhey any samba guru's around?08:50
ashu19DaSkreech: are u in my system now???08:50
shane2peruI'm trying to network windows and Kubuntu08:50
DaSkreechtook: alt+space -> system Settings -> <press enter> -> mouse -> there08:50
iarwain_shane2peru: ask, maybe you'll get an answer =) (i know a little bit about samba)08:50
shane2perufollowed a guide on Ubuntu, and have a small problem08:51
shane2peruiarwain, it probably isn't that hard.08:51
metbsdi have no sound08:51
metbsdhelp08:51
shane2perumy username on the windows box is different than the Linux box08:51
DaSkreechashu19: Nope :-(08:51
shane2perupassword too.08:51
iarwain_shane2peru: ah, no problem, wait a sec :)08:51
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ashu19DaSkreech: i gave u the password!!!08:51
DaSkreechashu19: yes but it's not accepting it08:52
wiLihi all, I tried to upgrade my ibook from dapper drake to edgy eft yesterday using 'sudo update-manager -c' and it failed. Now the laptop won't boot into kubuntu any more (the boot screen freezes). Is there any alternative to a fresh install now?08:52
ashu19why??08:52
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shane2peruiarwain_ in case you are familiar with the forums, I followed the one posted by stormbringer, rather straight forward and simple.08:52
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DaSkreechashu18: type /msg nickserv register08:53
iarwain_shane2peru: kk, just looking through the forum atm, but i know it's something in samba to add a user.. just looking for the right commands08:53
DaSkreechashu18: it will ask you for a password and you will be registered08:53
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ashu18regsiter 12308:53
DaSkreechashu18: Or we can jsut join #cdhelp08:53
shane2peruiarwain_ ok, here is the guide I used.08:54
shane2peruhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260508:54
DaSkreechashu18: click on the word #cdhelp08:54
ashu19DaSkreech: its already 12:30 am now, mom ll kill me.....will u be there 2moro??08:54
iarwain_shane2peru: try this 'sudo smbpasswd -U username password'08:54
DaSkreechashu19: yes. I can be here tomorrow08:54
busfahrerAre there any Amarok 1.4.6 repositories yet?08:54
zombielionDaSkreech: Im sorry I lost my connection. You was helping my with vlc. I have the manager open and all the checks are checked on the first in tab.08:54
DaSkreechashu19: what time ?08:54
DaSkreechzombielion: I saw08:54
shane2peruok, but do I use the windows username and password, or the Linux one?08:55
DaSkreechzombielion: ok close it and search for libxine-extracodecs08:55
jetsaredimbusfahrer: was wondering the same thing08:55
metbsd!sound08:55
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:55
jhutchins_ltashu19: You should be able to mount CD's with user read access now.08:55
ashu19DaSkreech: will 11 am IST or 10 pm IST be ok??08:55
iarwain_shane2peru: you create one08:55
jhutchins_ltashu19: I 0wnz your system.08:55
iarwain_shane2peru: it's best if you add yourself with your pw08:55
SlimG3busfahrer: They usually tell on kubuntu.org when Amarok is available in repos08:55
DaSkreechI can work for 10 PM08:56
shane2peruok, I did that.08:56
ashu19jhutchins_lt: sorry can't understand u08:56
busfahrerSlimG3: cheers08:56
iarwain_shane2peru: now restart samba08:56
DaSkreechashu19: I may be asleep at 11 am08:56
shane2peruin the howto, it has me do that.08:56
jhutchins_ltashu19: Try it now - see if you can read a CD.08:56
shane2peruwait, let me try with the -U option.08:56
jhutchins_ltashu19: I hav haxx0rd your system and fixed it.08:56
ashu19jhutchins_lt: mom's getting up i won't live to try this is she finds me on he comp now08:57
DaSkreechashu19: See you tomorrow if it doesn't work08:57
DaSkreech go to bed!08:57
jhutchins_ltGood luck.  Let me know if you want your password.08:57
DaSkreechashu19: And power down the computer08:57
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DaSkreechblast08:57
jhutchins_ltThat's ok, I did it for him08:57
jhutchins_ltshutdown -h now.08:58
shane2peruiarwain_ ok, I think that was the same as what I had done before with sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username08:58
iarwain_shane2peru: and it still won't work?08:58
shane2peruthat is the command in the howto, then then enable command with -e08:58
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decapitatedHi08:58
shane2peruno, when I go to my remote places on Linux, I can see the windows computer, but none of the folders08:59
shane2peruon the windows computer I can't even see my computer.08:59
khaije1so anyone know why my nwn install suddenly doesn't work anymore on my amd64 desktop, when it starts right up on my ia32 laptop?08:59
iarwain_shane2peru: i think it's configuring the windows pc then, and to see it, did you use the right workgroup?08:59
chris_scummette!kopete08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
chris_scummetteha08:59
chris_scummettelol08:59
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shane2peruiarwain_ let me double check that.09:00
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shane2peruiarwain_ yep, workgroup is fine09:01
facugaichAnyone know how to get sound alerts in kopete when someone says something in multi-user chats?09:01
iarwain_anyone know why scons can't find the sconstruct file?09:01
SlimG3chris_scummette: We obviously need a kubotu09:01
iarwain_shane2peru: i don't quite know..09:01
SlimG3:)09:01
DaSkreech!gaim09:01
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.09:01
DaSkreech!im09:01
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DaSkreechfacugaich: try settings -> notifications09:02
iarwain_shane2peru: did you set your security settings on your windows pc correctly?09:02
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shane2peruok, iarwain_  thanks, appreciate the help anyway.09:02
facugaichDaSkreech: already tried09:02
decapitated!ICQ09:02
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.09:02
shane2peruI believe so.09:02
decapitatedcool09:02
iarwain_shane2peru: when i tried my server on school, teacher blocked the windows pc's to see anything09:02
frojndhow can I set myself to NOT away in konversation?09:02
iarwain_shane2peru: can you try via ip?09:02
facugaichfrojnd: /back09:02
DaSkreechfacugaich: Oh wait. Kopete doesn't diffrentiate between multi user chats and single suers09:02
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shane2peruyes, I went back and added to the firewall rules to allow09:02
DaSkreechAFAIR09:02
frojndtnx09:02
shane2peruhow do I do that via ip iarwain_?09:03
facugaichDaSkreech: Looks like it does... I get them only while in single user chat09:03
DaSkreech!away | frojnd09:03
ubotufrojnd: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines09:03
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iarwain_in your windows box, type in the ip of your server09:03
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iarwain_shane2peru: see if it works that way09:03
facugaichDaSkreech: I'm  using MSN proto btw09:03
shane2perumy ip address correct?09:03
SlimG3frojnd: /back09:03
DaSkreechfacugaich: #kopete ?09:04
iarwain_shane2peru: the ip address of the linux box you want to access09:04
frojndtnx09:04
chris_scummettehow does kopete works?09:04
chris_scummettethats all09:04
chris_scummettelol09:04
yurimxpxmanchris_scummette: what do you mean?09:04
chris_scummettei cans connect !09:04
chris_scummettei mean09:04
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yurimxpxman*can't?09:04
chris_scummetteis it supposed to be an alternative to other IM clients?09:05
shane2peruiarwain_ no, it brings up a yahoo search for that number.09:05
yurimxpxmanchris_scummette: just use Pidgin. kopete's a POS, IMHO09:05
yurimxpxmanchris_scummette: http://www.pidgin.im/09:05
iarwain_shane2peru: try the ip with // in front of it => //100.100.0.3 or something like that09:05
shane2peruiarwain_: ok09:05
facugaichyurimxpxman: POS?09:05
facugaichoh09:05
chris_scummettea POS?09:05
chris_scummetteIMHO?09:05
facugaichI get it09:05
chris_scummettelol09:06
chris_scummetteahhhhhhhh09:06
chris_scummettelol09:06
DaSkreechchris_scummette: connect to what?09:06
yurimxpxmanchris_scummette: Piece of [poop]  \ In My Humble Opinion09:06
chris_scummettei use amsn most of the times09:06
puppyuser2007047DaSkreech: that jhutchins-It changed my password...i can't log in!!!!!!!!!!09:06
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shane2peruiarwain_: no, still brings me to the yahoo search page, let me try in firefox, I don't like the new IE.09:06
chris_scummetteconnect to my contacts09:06
puppyuser2007047i am ashu1809:06
chris_scummettesuimply!09:06
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: Yes he did09:06
iarwain_shane2peru: i mean the windows explorer program =)09:06
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: do you know how to change it back ?09:06
chris_scummetteanother dumb question09:07
puppyuser2007047yes i know..bt i need the password09:07
chris_scummettewhat is better?09:07
chris_scummettefat 16, fat32 orext3?09:07
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: no you don't you are on a live CD ?09:07
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puppyuser2007047yeah, puppy linux live cd09:07
shane2peruiarwain_: ohh, I guess I should have figured that out :)), one second09:07
iarwain_chris_scummette: ext3 =)09:07
chris_scummettealroght09:07
iarwain_shane2peru: no problems xD09:07
chris_scummetteright*09:07
chris_scummettehh09:07
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: ok mount your hard drive09:07
puppyuser2007047what???09:08
chris_scummetteok when formating09:08
shane2peruiarwain_: no, it brings up IE trying to open a web page.09:08
shane2peruiarwain_: doesn't work with the // either.09:08
puppyuser2007047k i did09:08
chris_scummettewill i format my second HD as a extended partition?09:08
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: where did you mount it?09:08
chris_scummetteor as a primary09:08
iarwain_shane2peru: so you start explorer (not IE, but explorer, the file manager) and you enter the ip?09:08
puppyuser2007047from Disks options09:09
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: so it's on your Desktop?09:09
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puppyuser2007047yeah09:09
shane2peruwell, I'm using XP, not sure what the explorer is, I clicked on MyComputer and deleted those words and put the ip09:09
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: Ok open a terminal09:09
DaSkreechand CD into the folder09:09
puppyuser2007047did it09:09
iarwain_shane2peru: that's the one =)09:09
puppyuser2007047plz b quick09:09
shane2peruiarwain_: I'm a little more Linux savvy now. :)09:10
iarwain_shane2peru: don't know ;o09:10
shane2peruless windows compatible.09:10
iarwain_shane2peru: you always learn xD09:10
shane2peruok, I'm with ya.  Thanks again.09:10
iarwain_shane2peru: couldn't help :(09:10
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puppyuser2007047what do u mean by 'CD into the folder'?09:10
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shane2peruiarwain_: I'll still give you an A for effort. :)09:11
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: cd Desktop/NameofFOlder09:11
iarwain_shane2peru: yay! =)09:11
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: I assume it has a name09:11
shane2perucan anyone that is samba savvy help me out?  I followed this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260509:11
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: type Cd Desktop09:12
DaSkreechcd09:12
DaSkreechthen ls09:12
DaSkreech tell me what shows up09:12
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puppyuser2007047this is confusing....u will tell me these 2 moro09:12
puppyuser2007047mom's up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:12
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: yes09:12
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: go to bed09:12
puppyuser2007047and hell befall on that 'asshole'09:12
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: well he made CDs work so..09:13
puppyuser2007047did he????????????09:13
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: and he was stopping anyone else logging into your machine09:13
puppyuser2007047how do i know??09:13
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: when you wake up tomorrow. Go to bed09:13
puppyuser2007047why did he flee when i asked him the passwd then??09:13
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iarwain_shane2peru: let me try again =) thinking helps09:13
iarwain_shane2peru: back up your smb.conf09:13
iarwain_shane2peru: make a new one09:14
shane2peruok09:14
iarwain_shane2peru: i'll post the contents09:14
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: he had to go as well. Just log in here tomorrow and ask for help to change your password back09:14
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zombielionDaSkreech: Every time I request install it says under Requested BREAK (install) ?09:14
puppyuser2007047u r supporting him too much....see his 'quit' statement09:14
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shane2peruiarwain_: ok, it is backed up.09:15
DaSkreechzombielion: hm09:15
FFForeverwhen i talk in teamspeak i hear a buzzzzzzz, how do i fix that?09:15
puppyuser2007047i will see him09:15
shane2peruiarwain_: and I cleared the slate.09:15
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007047: quite likely09:15
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iarwain_shane2peru: enter this => http://pastebin.ca/58188309:16
DaSkreechzombielion: ok try install libxine1-ffmpeg09:16
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iarwain_shane2peru: but change it to your path09:16
SlimG3FFForever: If it's a low buzzzz it's probably just your cheap soundcard :)09:16
shane2peruiarwain_: ok, it is opening now.09:17
iarwain_shane2peru: then restart samba, what is opening?09:17
zombielionDaSkreech: it hasnt been letting me fetch updates really either sametimes it says There was an error downloading updates09:17
cosmodadhow do I change the default video player? I want it to switch from kaffeine to kmplayer09:17
shane2peruwebpage09:17
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cosmodadI looked in the system settings to no avail09:17
zombielionDaSkreech: nothing came back in search results09:17
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DaSkreechzombielion: does it say from which server?09:17
iarwain_shane2peru: oh, i thought your server =)09:17
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shane2peruiarwain_:  wow that is a short config file :)09:18
chris_scummettemy second HD is partitionned , how do i mount it?09:18
iarwain_shane2peru: it's just to make sure your config is okay =) you can add stuff later =)09:19
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shane2peruiarwain_:  ok09:19
cosmodadchris_scummette: sudo mount -t <file system type, e.g. vfat, ext3> /dev/<partition name> <mount point>09:19
DaSkreechHi Lam_09:19
chris_scummettemount point?09:19
zombielionDaSkreech: i think it says error in fiesty universe packages it goes so fast i cant read it but i do beleive that is what isnt getting complete. but here a few times it was a pop up that said just error downloading updates09:20
SlimG2!mount | chris_scummette09:20
ubotuchris_scummette: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter09:20
shane2peruiarwain_:  ok, got it added09:20
shane2perunext.09:20
iarwain_shane2peru: restart samba, and try again =)09:20
DaSkreechzombielion: Universe ... I guess that shouldn't block anything we are doing09:21
zombielionDaSkreech: it is us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages09:21
chris_scummetteok!09:22
shane2peruiarwain_:  no it says no available workgroups on my linux box, and on the windows it doesn't show anything either.09:22
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