[12:13] <autoscum> i found a blank cd ^_^
[12:14] <afk> i got a slight issue wich i been trying to fix for about a week now i had feisty installed with XP but upgraded to vista and now i can't seem to find a way to fix grub so kubuntu can boot i've done forum searching saying to boot it from cd but i always get a panic
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> I'm beginning to wonder if it'd be worth it at this point to go back and install the 32-bit version
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> So much stuff that doesn't have amd64 packages yet
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> kenro: yes
[12:15] <autoscum> kenro: im gonna download kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso that's okay, right? :)
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats what I did
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: as long as you don't have a SPARC ;)
[12:15] <autoscum> sparc?? :D
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> its another architecture
[12:16] <kenro> autoscum, That's feisty, right?
[12:16] <autoscum> yep 7.04
[12:16] <Dragnslcr> Except I made the mistake of not separating my /home partition
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: yeah, thats fine
[12:16] <autoscum> okay :))
[12:16] <autoscum> downloading @ 3.5 MB/s
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: BIG mistake :)
[12:16] <autoscum> 2 minutes ^^
[12:16] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, yup
[12:16] <afk> anyone?
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> EVERYONE?
[12:16] <kenro> autoscum, Kill the playbyplay
[12:17] <autoscum> kill the playbyplay??
[12:17] <Surger> Will the kubuntu 7.04 desktop install on a PC with less than 256MB of RAM or must I rather download the "alternate" ISO?
[12:18] <TheCreationist> Okay, after upgrading to Feisty, I now have no sound, no support for my CD burner, and startup is extremely slow.  Since I have no CD burner, I can't even burn a copy of Ubuntu.  What should I do now?
[12:18] <Surger> i.e. Will the installer check and refuse to install if < 256MB of RAM?
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> Surger: how much ram does it have?
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> Surger: no.
[12:18] <Surger> nosrednaekim: 96MB
[12:18] <afk> dum de do.
[12:18] <Jucato> Surger: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php says 256MB will do.
[12:18] <kenro> autoscum, Disregard. Was too slow, shouldn't have typed it anyway.
[12:18] <Jucato> anything lower will need the alternate install cd
[12:18] <autoscum> kenro: :))
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> Surger: definately get the alternate installer, and in addition I would reccomend Xubuntu
[12:19] <autoscum> what was the burn command again? :)
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: upen up k3b
[12:19] <kenro> k3b better than Nero.
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> kenro: its free :)
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> but no.
[12:20] <autoscum> that's writing at 52x ?!
[12:20] <afk> hmm i'd take it no one has an answer
[12:20] <kenro> k3d better than lightwave.
[12:20] <autoscum> is it safe??
[12:20] <Dragnslcr> Actually, can parted/gparted create new partitions from the empty space in an existing partition?
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> afk: whats the question?
[12:20] <autoscum> oh, wait, it doesnt go over 26, never mind :))
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: yep
[12:21] <afk> k> i got a slight issue wich i been trying to fix for about a week now i had feisty installed with XP but upgraded to vista and now i can't seem to find a way to fix grub so kubuntu can boot i've done forum searching saying to boot it from cd but i always get a panic
[12:21] <Surger> nosrednaekim &Jucato: Thanks. This machine will basically be headless and will run in console. Just want to be able to run a few small X11/Xorg apps remotely so 96MB should work.
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> afk: Vista probably messed with your BIOS
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> So it should be possible to create a new partition and move /home to it
[12:21] <afk> hmm
[12:21] <autoscum> Vista can alter bios?
[12:21] <Jucato> Surger: then the Alternate Install CD would be better for you. you can install a command line system (headless) using that
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: sometimes upgrading also upgrades your BIOS, especcially if you do an Express upgrade
[12:22] <afk> i had a recent bios update from sony
[12:22] <TheCreationist> Okay, after upgrading to Feisty, I now have no sound, no support for my CD burner, and startup is extremely slow.  Since I have no CD burner, I can't even burn a copy of Ubuntu.  What should I do now?
[12:22] <autoscum> motherf@$%#
[12:22] <afk> that mean the system is useless?
[12:22] <autoscum> write error :(((
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> afk: did you try booting linuxafter you upgraded the BIOS
[12:23] <afk> ya worked fine
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: that stinks
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> afk: odd.
[12:23] <autoscum> nosrednaekim: want the debug output?
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> the Kubuntu liveCD doesn't boot?
[12:23] <afk> is it posibule the live cd won't boot the h/d because its a diffent version?
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: eh.. why ot
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> afk: oh, you are trying to boot the HD?
[12:24] <afk> ya so i can reinstall grub
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> afk: no,just boot the liveCD
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> and then CHroot
[12:24] <afk> does it matter that its a diffent version of kubuntu?
[12:24] <autoscum> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26496/
[12:24] <autoscum> here
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> afk: no
[12:25] <afk> happen to have a totorial on how to reinstall grub
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> afk: from a chroot?
[12:26] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- I have a 250 GB disk with just under 100 GB used. Think I should try making a new partition and installing the i386 version to it?
[12:26] <afk> i had this happen befor and ended up having to reformat it
[12:26] <TheCreationist> After upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> autoscum: bad cd probably
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: hmm I think you have to do that from a LIveCD
[12:26] <autoscum> nosrednaekim: i'll try with the other one.. hope it works :(
[12:27] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- parted can't work on mounted partitions then?
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: nope
[12:27] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[12:28] <autoscum> bah, this one was even more broken...
[12:28] <buffles> afk: Will this be of any use to You? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[12:28] <Dragnslcr> So how does this plan sound? Split off a new 50 GB partition, install the i386 version to that, and mount the remaining ~200GB partition as /home ?
[12:29] <TheCreationist> After upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?
[12:29] <autoscum> how stupid...
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> If I do that, I shouldn't lose any data, right?
[12:30] <juanfran> hola a todos alguien me puede ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: sounds good...
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: except you are going to have to move some stuff around
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- yeah, I know I'd have to move stuff in /home/user to the new location
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> buffles: hmmm I never saw that method
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> Maybe some other directories, too. Moving files around doesn't bother me as long as I don't lose any of them
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> Should probably still burn a few DVD's worth of backups though, huh?
[12:32] <buffles> nosrednaekim: I've had to use it a few times after installing XP alongside Kubuntu
[12:32] <autoscum> well im gonna hit the sack
[12:32] <autoscum> good night, duuds :)
[12:32] <juanfran> me puede ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????
[12:32] <autoscum> have a good one
[12:32] <juanfran> me pueden ayudar con virtualizacion en xen, en kubuntu 7.04????
[12:32] <Jucato> !es
[12:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> buffles: I always just did the chroot approach
[12:35] <afk> suprizeingly that worked
[12:36] <ardchoille> Not sure if everyone saw this but it seems very relevant to this channel:  http://tinyurl.com/ypjs7q
[12:36] <afk> now i just need to figure out how to add vista to the boot i know how to manualy add xp ect but i hear vista is a bit harder
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah I saw that on tuxmachines
[12:37] <ardchoille> Jucato: IS it possible to put that link in the topic ?
[12:37] <buffles> nosrednaekim: I can't say that I'm familiar with that approach
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> buffles: you boot a livecd, chroot into your linux install and run grub-configure or whatever.
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> grub-install.
[12:39] <buffles> nosrednaekim: Oh, right
[12:39] <TheCreationist> After upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?
[12:40] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: install off of a USB stick...i THINK you can do that.
[12:40] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: I'm not sure that my bios will boot from USB.
[12:40] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Nor do I have a USB drive ;)
[12:41] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: I'm just very confused how upgrading can make so much of my hardware suddenly not work.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: do a uname -a please
[12:42] <jezus007> i have an .rpm file
[12:42] <jezus007> what's the command
[12:42] <jezus007> to make it
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know offhand an apt command to list all installed packages? Just figured I'd save it in case I want to go by it for reinstalling
[12:42] <jezus007> i forgot
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> jezus007- to convert it to a .deb is 'alien'
[12:42] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Linux c-71-205-65-72 2.6.20-15-386  #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> Can't remember if Ubuntu can actually install RPM's directly
[12:43] <jezus007> well
[12:43] <jezus007> i need
[12:43] <jezus007> the program
[12:43] <jezus007> ActivePerl
[12:43] <ardchoille> Dragnslcr: it can't. you'd need to use alien but alien is dangerous
[12:43] <jezus007> i download ikt from here
[12:43] <jezus007> http://www.activestate.com/store/download.aspx?prdGUID=81fbce82-6bd5-49bc-a915-08d58c2648ca
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: have updated your package lists and applied all updates?
[12:44] <jezus007> what should i do :s
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> ardchoille- I think the only package I've used it on was the software for Lightscribe, and it worked fine
[12:44] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Yes.
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: what does top show as your top process?
[12:46] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: init
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> do "alt+esc" or "top" in the terminal.
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: and what percent of the CPU is it using?
[12:46] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Okay, now it's jumping between ksysguard and xorg
[12:47] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: xorg is using .7%
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: that sounds normal.
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> ok, now I remember the reason that your boot up is slow
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> I had the same problem.
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> And I couldn't fix it.
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> do you still have the edgy CD?
[12:49] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Yes, I do.
[12:49] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: The slow boot is caused by it trying to access ata2... whatever that is (probably my burner)
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: you might want to use it.
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: hmm maybe... try unlgging your burner
[12:49] <oslo> hi
[12:49] <oslo> i'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool ) (( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))
[12:50] <TheCreationist> brb...
[12:52] <oslo>  on XP with VirtualBox it's quite simple, teh drivers are automaticaly installed; on linux it's becoming a headach for me :S
[12:54] <jhutchins> oslo: Search for your specific model and linux.  The manufacturers often don't supply linux drivers and may actively discourage their development.
[12:54] <jhutchins> oslo: This means enough people who are good enough at hacking drivers must have that model phone to test and have the time to build drivers for it.
[12:54] <oslo> jhutchins> e2831 there is none
[12:55] <jhutchins> oslo: I'm sure if you were to offer to supply a dozen or so phones to the guys who write drivers, you'd get a driver in return.
[12:55] <oslo> it's also sells like Accton VM3228T
[12:56] <jhutchins> e2831 runs linux...
[12:56] <oslo> jhutchins> i've mine & the only things i could supply is knowledges & screenshots :p
[12:57] <jhutchins> oslo: Contact the manufacturer.  I'll bet they could help you get it working.
[12:58] <oslo> jhutchins> i'll do but how on linux to you mount a usb device like a network card ???
[12:58] <oslo> *do
[01:01] <starhawk> hi
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> hi
[01:01] <zarilion> HELP! I just enabled Beryl on my kubuntu but when i did i lost the frames on my windows, no minimize button etc. etc. anyone know how to get it back ?
[01:01] <grul> try disabling beryl
[01:02] <zarilion> ofc, but i want beryl and the bars :P
[01:02] <mdr> I just ditched the old crt moniter and installed a LCD, it seems a bit wavy at certain resolutions.  How do I reconfigure?
[01:02] <starhawk> I have gusty kubuntu and the add and remove programs is missing it was there but it seems one of the up dates changed it any ideas how to get it back
[01:02] <grul> :)
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: install beryl-manager
[01:03] <zarilion> nosrednaekim: installed.
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: run it
[01:03] <zarilion> nosrednaekim: done :)
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> rightclick on its icon->select windwos manager-.kwin
[01:04] <kenro> Anyone know if DCnet and Lopster are still running?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: got that?
[01:06] <zarilion> if i right click on the icon in the start bar i only get up the Edit stuff..
[01:06] <zarilion> im in the settings manager. on window management
[01:07] <starhawk> I have gusty kubuntu and the add and remove programs is missing it was there but it seems one of the up dates changed it any ideas how to get it back
[01:07] <kenro> !synaptic
[01:07] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:08] <kenro> !adept
[01:08] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:08] <kenro> Oh OK
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: right click on the beryl icon.
[01:08] <kenro> Then why doesn't my copy of Synaptic require gome libs?
[01:09] <zarilion> yah
[01:09] <looki> hello what was the command to add the line into x.org that brought the titlebar in beryl?
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> addARGBGLXvisuals?
[01:09] <mdr> I just hooked up a LCD monitor.  The Screen Section of xorg.conf still has info on the old CRT monitor. A bunch of sub-sections.  What do I change?  How do I reconfigure?
[01:10] <looki> yes, there was a command to automatically enter it into the file without editing
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: and you don't get a popup list of beryl options?
[01:10] <starhawk> yes but there was a short cut to an add and remove programs in the start menue I liked it because it gave a decription of the programs
[01:10] <zarilion> yah
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> looki: IDK, that was probably some nvidia config option
[01:10] <zarilion> i just set it to kwin as window manager
[01:10] <zarilion> but then i lost the "start bar"
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: did that work?
[01:10] <zarilion> i got the frames tho
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> the paneL?
[01:11] <zarilion> yah
[01:11] <zarilion> ahh. there it was
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> got it?
[01:11] <TrueFX> salut
[01:11] <TrueFX> hi
[01:11] <TrueFX> i ve got a problem
[01:11] <zarilion> but now the beryl effects is gone :(
[01:11] <TrueFX> i ve got 2 hard  drives
[01:11] <mdr> In windows I can set the the resolution to 1152 * 864 but this setting is not available in KDE.  Plus some resolutions appear wavy.
[01:12] <TrueFX> on one of which windows is installed and on the other kubuntu
[01:12] <TrueFX> i ve installed windows later on
[01:12] <TrueFX> have can i place an entry for that?
[01:12] <TrueFX> for windows operating system
[01:12] <zarilion> do i have to restart xserver when i have enabled beryl ?
[01:12] <TrueFX> before installing windows i ve plugged off my kubuntu drive
[01:12] <sparr> my desktop, ready to exhibit linux gaming goodness at a lan party this weekend...  http://sparr.homeip.net/desktop.png
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: no, do you have a nvidia card?
[01:13] <zarilion> yeah
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> did you follow a tutorial for Beryl?
[01:13] <zarilion> nah.. just enabled it
[01:14] <zarilion> think i will do that now.. just thought id try it. but needed help to get back the frames ...
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: go follow a tutorial for beryl and nvidia cards, it'll tell you the way to set it up
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:14] <zarilion> thank you for your kindness nosrednaekim  :)
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> zarilion: no problem.
[01:14] <Ze_M> why in kubuntu konqueror toolbars were modified, and speacially to the trap that they are now
[01:16] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Okay, I'm back... sorry about that.  Remember my problem? ;)
[01:17] <darkrift411> anyone know how i free some ram?
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: indees
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> *indeed
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: did unplugging the CD fix the slow boot?
[01:18] <evsophomore2009> Hey where is the trash on Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn
[01:18] <evsophomore2009> its not in the corner anymore =/
[01:19] <darkrift411> lol
[01:19] <darkrift411> i removed it
[01:19] <darkrift411> looked to apple like
[01:19] <darkrift411> lol
[01:19] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Oh, that was your final advice.  :)  I haven't tried that yet.
[01:19] <TheCreationist> hang on, I'll restart real quick.
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: you can add a trascan to the toolbar
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: lol
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> Nosrednaekim: where is the trash located?
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> its not in the K menu, or on the toolbar
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> or on the desktop
[01:21] <evsophomore2009> never mind
[01:21] <evsophomore2009> got it
[01:21] <oslo> evsophomore2009> on the kiker, right klick, add an applet ...
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: you can add a trashcan to the tool bar by right clicking on the panel->add palet-trash
[01:21] <oslo> k
[01:22] <evsophomore2009> is there any way to have Linux have that 3-D looking thing...like CTRL and move the mous?
[01:22] <evsophomore2009> *Mouse
[01:22] <Jucato> !beryl | evsophomore2009
[01:22] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:22] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Yep.  THat solved it.  So apparently my cd burner is the "ata2" that dmesg said it had problems with.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: hmm.
[01:22] <juanfran> hola me ayudan con virtualizacion en xen
[01:22] <Jucato> !es | juanfran
[01:22] <ubotu> juanfran: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: and I suppose you can't do without yourCD drive?
[01:23] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Definitely not.
[01:24] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: I never would have thought that hardware support would be reduced in a new version lol
[01:24] <Ze_M> i dont see any GUI interface for nfs shares
[01:24] <Ze_M> kubuntu doesnt have any_?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: yeah... well, its the new libata. added to 2.6.19
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> they're still coming up to speed.
[01:25] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: So what do you suggest I do to get this fixed?
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: go back to edgy.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> I think thats the only way
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> talk to the devs over at #kubuntu-devel
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> they might be able to help
[01:27] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Okay.  Thank you.
[01:28] <darkrift411> one thing i miss from windows is the taskbar look
[01:28] <JuJuBee> I need to install a simple mail server on my computer that can forward (  I think that is what I  need).
[01:28] <darkrift411> wish i could get it without tons of memory use or problems
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> JuJuBee- I like Postfix personally
[01:29] <JuJuBee> Easy to configure?
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> Easier than sendmail
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> The docs are good too
[01:29] <JuJuBee> Seems it is already installed.  Thanks I will read up.
[01:29] <KDEusr> can someone please help me?
[01:30] <KDEusr> i've just installed kubuntu for the first time. it never asked me to set a root password
[01:30] <KDEusr> and i need to be root, and i cant with out knowing the password
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need to be root for anything
[01:30] <darkrift411> anyone know if there is a *very* windows like kicker skin for kde?
[01:30] <JuJuBee> KDEusr : the root account is disabled
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> If you need root access, use sudo
[01:30] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Okay.
[01:30] <darkrift411> KDEusr, , my root pass is my main account pass oddly
[01:30] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: what version are you booted to?
[01:30] <KDEusr> well, how can i 7.04
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- not unless you actually set it that way
[01:31] <KDEusr> i mean its 7.04
[01:31] <darkrift411> i created one account when i instaled it, and it used that password as root
[01:31] <KDEusr> well, i need to use drak tools
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- no it doesn't
[01:31] <KDEusr> does it not have anything drak?
[01:31] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: It's .20-16, I believe.
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> sudo takes your user password, not the root password
[01:31] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: that sounds right
[01:31] <darkrift411> i c
[01:31] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: you still have -15?
[01:31] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Yes.  I've tried that one too, though.  Same issue.
[01:31] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: thats odd, hmmmmm
[01:32] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Now, since I did an upgrade from Edgy, I still have the really old kernels installed, would those even work now?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: known issue in -16 but -15 should be fine
[01:32] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: you can try the last edgy kernel
[01:32] <KDEusr> see. im a pclinuxos user
[01:32] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Well, let me double check and try it again.
[01:32] <KDEusr> i've installed this on machine#3 hopeing to maybe change distros
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> gnomefreak: I had that issue with ALL 2.6.20's even other distros
[01:32] <KDEusr> but so far, im not likeing it. im lost inside KDE
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> same libata error
[01:33] <KDEusr> i need to install my videocard i guess.
[01:33] <KDEusr> im tryin to get beryl to work
[01:33] <gnomefreak> nosrednaekim: its known in -16 but that was first i heard about it when it landed
[01:33] <gnomefreak> KDEusr: #ubuntu-effects for beryl
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> KDEusr- you can't be an impatient person if you're going to use Beryl
[01:33] <KDEusr> i really like the adept updater
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> It's still somewhat buggy
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> Though it's being replaced in the near future (merging with Compiz)
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> gnomefreak: I just suspend all the time so it never bothers me
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> and BTW, i'm sorry for refering him to kubuntu-devel
[01:35] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Would it be worth restarting with -15?
[01:35] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: I'm sure I've tried it before.
[01:35] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: try it. there isnt much that can be done till tomorrow the kernel devs are gone for the day
[01:36] <gnomefreak> tomorrow == about 12 hours
[01:36] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Okay, I'll be right back, then... hopefully in 2 minutes or less ;)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> k ill be here for another minute or 3
[01:36] <KDEusr> beryl works great on this machine.
[01:37] <KDEusr> compiz turned into beryl. there will be no more compiz
[01:37] <stan> hey, does anyone know how to uninstall daemontools?
[01:37] <Kprofthreat> Lucky you. My Beryl didn't work. No window borders
[01:38] <KDEusr> Kprofthreat: i can show you how to fix that
[01:38] <gnomefreak> compiz and beryl were separate projects now merging into compcomm
[01:38] <stan> i mean everytime i rty to do this it gives some error and leaves it as it was...
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> That would be great
[01:38] <gnomefreak> KDEusr: join #ubuntu-effects to talk about beryl compiz and the alike
[01:38] <sweettooth> Kprofthreat, what graphics card have you got?
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> 7600 Nvidia
[01:38] <KDEusr> gnomefreak: i do not want to go to that channel. didnt you already suggest it once?
[01:38] <KDEusr> ya, i have a 7300 gs
[01:39] <sweettooth> and distro?
[01:39] <stan> anyone?
[01:39] <sweettooth> feisty?
[01:39] <KDEusr> kpro
[01:39] <gnomefreak> KDEusr: i suggest you join that channel to stay on beryl/compiz topic
[01:39] <darkrift411> what do i do to theme the kicker again? been a while since i did that last.
[01:39] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Hmm... weird.  That worked this time ;)
[01:39] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: any luck?
[01:39] <KDEusr> Kprofthreat: join this channel and i'll help you get beryl to work correctly
[01:39] <Kprofthreat> K
[01:39] <KDEusr> #Kprofthreat
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> Oh, ok
[01:40] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: thought so, -16 has an issue with hardware detection last i heard 15 was fine
[01:40] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Any idea when the new kernel comes out?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: for feisty?
[01:41] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: Yeah.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: 2.6.20-* is the only kernel gonna be in feisty
[01:41] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: I mean the bugfix release.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> they might release a -17 but not sure when
[01:41] <TheCreationist> ojk
[01:41] <evsophomore2009> hey umm how do i add Beryl to startup?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: i havent asked yet but i added it to my to do list
[01:42] <TheCreationist> gnomefreak: So my next major issue with Feisty if you feel up to it: I have no sound anymore.
[01:42] <evsophomore2009> So when i turn my PC on it turnes on by itseld
[01:42] <gnomefreak> evsophomore2009: join #ubuntu-effects
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: whats your sound chipset?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> TheCreationist: lol ofcourse you would :(
[01:42] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: ICH5 (onboard intel)
[01:42] <TheCreationist> It detects my sound card just fine, everything is unmuted, no errors, but no sound.
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: system-settings->sound and audio->hardware->change the device type to Advance LInux Sound Architeture
[01:44] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: It already is.
[01:44] <TheCreationist> i think... one sec
[01:44] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Yep, it is.
[01:45] <romudog> hiyaz
[01:45] <romudog> Can someone help me with a webcam
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: hmm...
[01:45] <romudog> Its not showing up on Kopete
[01:45] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Hey man :P
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> hey
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: how are you testing sound?
[01:47] <AaronCampbell> When I first installed Kubuntu Feisty, I had problems with my wireless network working, but my wired gigabit didn't.  I'm having the same problem again after a power outage 2 days ago...and I can't seem to figure out how I fixed it originally (with help from here)
[01:47] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Amarok, and the web
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: test it in system settings, sound
[01:48] <TheCreationist> nosrednaekim: Okay... nothing.
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> TheCreationist: have to go..
[01:48] <grul> does anyone know how to deselect all files in rtorrent? i have a torrent with like 200 files and i only want 10 of them :p
[01:49] <TheCreationist> grul: You can't right-click and choose deselect?
[01:49] <TheCreationist> grul: I know you can with KTorrent.
[01:49] <grul> it's a text based torrent client
[01:49] <grul> :)
[01:49] <TheCreationist> grul: oh lol
[01:50] <grul> so i can keep it in a screen
[01:50] <grul> heh
[01:50] <grul> oh, i got it, the * key
[01:50] <grul> :)
[01:51] <romudog> Can someone help me with a webcam that isnt showing up in Kopete?
[01:54] <kenro> Can someone help me figure out my mousewheel problem?
[01:55] <darkrift411> how do i change the look of the kicker again?
[01:55] <darkrift411> i cant even remember the terms to look for to find kicker skins
[01:55] <darkrift411> kenro, how about trying to set it as a 2 button instead of 3
[01:55] <MaTiAz> How to get rid of Katapult?
[01:56] <darkrift411> im no expert, but it could work :)
[01:56] <kenro> darkrift411, First... Let me varify. Where's that config file at?
[01:56] <darkrift411> like i said, im no expert.... couldnt help you there
[01:57] <darkrift411> but cant you use the gui?
[01:57] <grul> MaTiAz, try using add/remove programs in the start menu
[01:57] <darkrift411> id think in settings somewhere
[01:57] <darkrift411> or maybe in your xorg.conf file
[01:57] <kenro>  /etc/X11
[01:57] <darkrift411> i think that file has mouse settings in it
[01:57] <kenro> ?
[01:57] <darkrift411> back it up first
[01:57] <darkrift411> yeah, try there
[01:58] <darkrift411> and keep in mind..... im a n00b, so dont put too much into my idea
[02:00] <darkrift411> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[02:00] <darkrift411> id change true to false in there
[02:00] <dranas> ok im trying my upgrade to fiesty
[02:00] <Flaff> is kubuntu simply kde version of ubuntu?
[02:01] <darkrift411> yes
[02:01] <darkrift411> from what i hear adding kde to ubuntu is a disaster
[02:01] <darkrift411> so they made one with it in already
[02:01] <Flaff> ohh
[02:01] <Flaff> so if i want kde, do kubuntu and not modify ubuntu :P
[02:02] <MaTiAz> yeah
[02:02] <kenro> Not so much 'disaster', I think, just those with little experience dealing with dependency hell thought it was.
[02:03] <darkrift411> q: every time i run a gui app from the konsole, i get this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[02:03] <darkrift411> with a bunch more lines.... anyone know what device 169 is?
[02:03] <kenro> Me, I cut my unix teeth on FreeBSD.
[02:03] <darkrift411> me too
[02:03] <darkrift411> thru putty
[02:03] <darkrift411> i ran a few irc networks and they all ran on freebsd
[02:03] <kenro> I'm saying raw. Native.
[02:04] <MaTiAz> Kubuntu is the only distro that has been working awesome on my setup :)
[02:04] <darkrift411> id played around very few times before when i was younger, but that was the most id done
[02:04] <darkrift411> i was at work last night
[02:04] <darkrift411> opened cmd from start menu and typed "ls"
[02:04] <darkrift411> and was dumbfounded when it said bad command for filename (lol)
[02:04] <kenro> about 15 months running my own BSD system.
[02:05] <MaTiAz> What are the biggest differences between Linux and BSD?
[02:05] <kenro> kernel
[02:05] <darkrift411> i havent seen many
[02:05] <Flaff> thanks guys, installing kubuntu for the first time now ^^
[02:06] <kenro> for the true differences, you'd hafta delve kernel internals. I haven't needed to do so.
[02:06] <MaTiAz> Ok
[02:07] <kenro> And after 9 years using computers, I still type the same slowwas way. :)
[02:09] <darkrift411> is there a way to get kde 4 on kubuntu?
[02:10] <kenro> Wait a few months, or go through a Masters' Degree comp sci program.
[02:10] <AaronCampbell> When I first installed Kubuntu Feisty, I had problems with my wireless network working, but my wired gigabit didn't.  I'm having the same problem again after a power outage 2 days ago...and I can't seem to figure out how I fixed it originally (with help from here)
[02:10] <AaronCampbell> I'm wondering if a recent update of some sort could have caused it, and it took effect after the restart?
[02:10] <kenro> kde4 is for coders.
[02:10] <Flaff> makes sense...im looking for the best alternative to windows xp/vista right now... and so far im impressed with (k)ubuntu... if i want to focus more on the internals, i would probably use another distro.
[02:11] <Bdonohue> Hey all. Any of you have any clue how to get Kubuntu to boot off of a flash drive? I've got it mostly figured out, think I got syslinux installed but no go
[02:12] <kenro> Flaff, eh... I've noticed I;m using internals so much less often in Linux than BSD. I see your point. )
[02:13] <darkrift411> nevermind....
[02:14] <kenro> And I think I'll just get a real mouse. That should solve my wheel problem.
[02:15] <AaronCampbell> I do see in my system log "eth0: no IPv6 routers present" ...might I need to change something wrt that?
[02:15] <kenro> But I still don't know about my bootlog inkage problem.
[02:15] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  Wireless networking?
[02:20] <jmb90> can anybody tell me how to set up kubuntu like this dude did in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVIgOBVO5gA
[02:21] <jmb90> why hello thar?
[02:23] <spheard> anyone know a good netword animation applet
[02:24] <Flaff> jmb90, what part of the video?
[02:24] <jmb90> all of it
[02:24] <Flaff> is that the right link?
[02:24] <Flaff> it is a music video
[02:25] <Flaff> lol
[02:25] <jmb90> oops, try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc
[02:25] <Flaff> ??
[02:25] <Flaff> another music video
[02:26] <Jucato> jmb90: stop spamming music videos
[02:26] <jmb90> nop
[02:26] <darkrift411> damnit im going nuts here!@
[02:26] <darkrift411> nobody here knows how to theme the kicker?
[02:27] <AaronCampbell> kenro: my wireless works...my wired does not
[02:27] <darkrift411> point me to a keyword or a url or something
[02:27] <darkrift411> lol
[02:27] <Jucato> darkrift411: what do you mean by "theme kicker"?
[02:27] <darkrift411> i want a more windows like "taskbar"
[02:28] <darkrift411> solid, 3d, black..... (vista look)
[02:28] <darkrift411> flat is giving me a headache
[02:28] <darkrift411> but i cant remember where to change it, or where to get new skins
[02:28] <jmb90> steve jobs pwns ubuntu
[02:28] <Jucato> you can put an image kicker background: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance
[02:29] <Jucato> get skins probably at http://www.kde-look.org
[02:29] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  I trust you know about dhclient...
[02:29] <darkrift411> what would they be called on there?
[02:29] <darkrift411> ive searched, and cant find anything (ive found them before on my old laptop)
[02:29] <Jucato> can't really say. never tried searching
[02:30] <AaronCampbell> kenro: no
[02:30] <jmb90> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+kill+a+jew&btnG=Google+Search might help
[02:31] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  Try dhclient -v
[02:31] <AaronCampbell> v 3.0.4 and it gives some usage
[02:32] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  Cool. sudo ifconfig
[02:32] <AaronCampbell> Now, I'm trying to set it up as a static IP (although dhcp isn't working either)
[02:32] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  No. sudo ifconfig
[02:33] <AaronCampbell> kenro: what do you want from ifconfig?
[02:33] <Bdonohue> Hey, anyone know anything about shoehorning Kubuntu onto a flash drive?
[02:33] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  Just see what it says.
[02:34] <compilerwriter> bdonohue My brother-in-law found a web site and did it.  Try googling for such a thing.  You will probably be able to find the same site he did.
[02:34] <Bdonohue> Lol, I've gotten as far as it booting.
[02:35] <Bdonohue> It boots and finds vmlinuz and initrd but then it stops
[02:35] <AaronCampbell> It says a lot.  addr: 192.168.2.1 (this is right) RX Packets: 40 TX packets: 0  RX Bytes: 4260 TX Bytes: 0
[02:35] <kenro> Bdonohue,  Flashdrive isn't finding the whole filesystem/
[02:35] <kenro> ?
[02:36] <Bdonohue> Hmm
[02:36] <Bdonohue> Because it's all on the flash drive.
[02:36] <kenro> AaronCampbell, OK. dhclient eth0
[02:36] <Bdonohue> And it boots to the live CD menu.
[02:36] <kenro> Bdonohue, OK
[02:36] <Bdonohue> Says loading, then leaves me on a blank screen with a flashing white curosr.
[02:36] <compilerwriter> Did you repartition the flash drive bdonohue.  It should have two partitions on it if memory serves correctly.
[02:36] <Bdonohue> It doesn't have to. One is just for saving data.
[02:37] <compilerwriter> bdonohue the one for saving data also saves much needed data that is created during boot up.  If it doesn
[02:37] <Bdonohue> Well where does the LiveCD save that data then?
[02:37] <AaronCampbell> kenro: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801  Then listening...Sending... No DHCPOFFERS received
[02:37] <compilerwriter> have the partition it is looking for it could totally flop
[02:37] <compilerwriter> bdonohue the live cd creates a ram drive.
[02:38] <Bdonohue> Yeah, and this should too. I haven't changed anything else.
[02:38] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  ///you sure this is your default ethernet driver?
[02:38] <Bdonohue> All it is pretty much is using all the files that are on the disc and using syslinux instead of isolinux to get'er going.
[02:39] <Bdonohue> Thanks for at least attempting to help though too, I have to add compilerwriter... Ubuntu is useless, lmao.
[02:39] <Bdonohue> #Ubuntu*
[02:40] <compilerwriter> they tend to be a bit dilletantish over there bdonohue.  Don't take it personally.
[02:40] <AaronCampbell> kenro: eth0 has been my default, yes.  eth1 is disabled, as is the wireless.  I tried enabling and testing eth1...but I get the same problems....
[02:40] <AaronCampbell> wireless will connect, but it's so SLOW
[02:40] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  What's wmaster0?
[02:40] <AaronCampbell> no idea
[02:41] <AaronCampbell> I think it's part of the wireless, gets a similar icon in Network Settings
[02:41] <Bdonohue> dilletantish?
[02:41] <AaronCampbell> And when I enable wireless (wlan0), it enables...when I disable it, it disables
[02:42] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  In that case, sorry I couldn't help. Try resetting the drivers.
[02:42] <darkrift411> Jucato, if you get a botserv bot in here, you wont need to op up to kick someone, just use !kb name
[02:42] <darkrift411> if you are on access list and are identified you dont need to be op to use that command
[02:43] <Bdonohue> Jucato: If you are an op, why don't you just stay op?
[02:43] <Jucato> darkrift411: that's not how we do things in here
[02:43] <Jucato> Bdonohue: ^^^
[02:43] <darkrift411> heh
[02:43] <darkrift411> old ways for the sake of antichange
[02:43] <AaronCampbell> kenro: thanks, and I'm not sure how
[02:44] <darkrift411> its all over
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> everyone im lost and confused. and there isnt anyone on #ubuntu-effects
[02:44] <darkrift411> i am too evsophomore2009 , someone will eventually help you
[02:44] <darkrift411> just a matter of time in here :)
[02:45] <Jucato> there are people there. you just have to wait a bit. not everyone can be available at all times
[02:45] <Bdonohue> Oh.
[02:45] <Jucato> that's how IRC support works
[02:45] <Bdonohue> Anyone have any clue how I can get ahold of say Era or Boo?
[02:46] <Jucato> what are those?
[02:50] <kenro> AaronCampbell,  Whoa Nelly! Gutsy still includes modconf. You might try that.
[02:50] <jeroenvrp> how to manually install a deb-file with adept?
[02:52] <hagabaka> jeroenvrp: don't know with adept, but you can use dpkg -i. gdebi does it better by automatically satisfying dependencies
[02:53] <jeroenvrp> hagabaka: thats what I know, but I like to install it directly from firefox
[02:53] <Bdonohue> Just tried it on another machiine, still no go.
[02:53] <jeroenvrp> allthoug kpackage can do it, I want adept, so indeed it will solve the dependencies
[02:53] <hagabaka> you can register a file handler to gdebi
[02:54] <hagabaka> adept probably will not install a standalone deb file
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> oh well, kpackage will do also good
[02:54] <hagabaka> does kpackage install dependent packages?
[02:55] <jeroenvrp>  no
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> but the debs I installl normally dont need that
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> I have to go
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> cheers
[02:58] <kenro> oops
[03:02] <Small_Mac> help, kpdf doesn't have any printer in its list of print options, i only see print to fax, print to pdf, etc, i configured my printer and i can print from open office as default, thx
[03:03] <Jucato> can you print from other KDE apps? (open office isn't a kde app)
[03:04] <Small_Mac> o, like what, i'm kinda new with this, don't know what u mean by kde apps =)
[03:04] <BenPA> the only pdf program that works for me is ... xpdf
[03:05] <Small_Mac> hmm is that through apt-get as well
[03:06] <Jucato> Small_Mac: Kate for example
[03:06] <BenPA> yes
[03:06] <Small_Mac> k will check that
[03:06] <Small_Mac> Jucato no i can't =(
[03:07] <Jucato> Small_Mac: then it means you didn't set up printing properly for KDE. how did you set up the printer?
[03:08] <Small_Mac> Jucato: i went to start menu -> system -> HPLIP toolbox (printer toolbox) -> then automatic setup
[03:08] <Small_Mac> Jucato my printer is a hp deskjet 5150
[03:08] <Small_Mac> thx
[03:08] <Jucato> Small_Mac: try K Menu -> System Settings -> Printer
[03:09] <Bdonohue> This is hard.
[03:09] <Bdonohue> I can't believe how much I've learned though, haha.
[03:09] <Bdonohue> It's fun.
[03:14] <CS5> Hi all, I am EXTREME Kubuntu and linux noob who would appreciate the answers to a few questions if someone has the time...Please.
[03:14] <Bdonohue> I think for the time being, I'm going to return to my quest for changing colours :P
[03:14] <sharkface> can someone help me get my printer working? it is on a windows system that i am networked to. i installed samba and i downloaded the driver
[03:14] <Bdonohue> What printer?
[03:14] <sharkface> the printer shows up in the queue but nothing prints
[03:14] <sharkface> hp pcs 2175
[03:15] <sharkface> im pretty sure i need to fix something in CUPS but i cannot find anything sufficient on any forums
[03:15] <CS5> Do things function differently between the live dvd and the actual installed os? IE. Sound, Mounting hdd, etc.?
[03:15] <sharkface> im not sure where to go from here
[03:16] <CS5> 275 users and NO help?
[03:16] <CS5> lol
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> CS5- in theory, no. Some devices might work [better]  after installing drivers for them
[03:16] <CS5> ty
[03:17] <CS5> I am on live dvd and not getting any sound and am unable to mount my ntfs drive
[03:17] <CS5> any ideas?
[03:17] <CS5> drives*
[03:17] <CS5> sry
[03:17] <CS5> no remotes either
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> Check KMix to make sure all of the sound outputs are enabled
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> If you're using digital output, you also need to check alsamixer
[03:18] <CS5> all green
[03:18] <sharkface> does anyone know how to configure CUPS?
[03:19] <CS5> any thoughts on the mounting? this normal?
[03:19] <upstairs> When I try to boot up my computer, when trying to load to kdm (or there abouts) it locks up.  If I wait a while in a terminal it shows that "assuming drive cache write through" and "rejecting i/o to dead device?
[03:21] <darkrift411> i hot ctrl+esc to kill ark, but i dont have priv's, how do i open taht app with privs?
[03:21] <darkrift411> hot = hit
[03:22] <Bdonohue> Aw crap. I had a cherry pit in my mouth and I'm on my bed and it fell out and I can't find it.
[03:22] <CS5> lol
[03:22] <Bdonohue> Found it.
[03:23] <CS5> anyone maybe have a suggestion on a channel that might be more helpful for a noob like me?
[03:23] <fabian> hi
[03:23] <CS5> hi
[03:23] <mneptok> CS5: how are you trying to mount them?
[03:23] <fabian> hay algun latinoamericano
[03:24] <mneptok> !es > fabian
[03:24] <fabian> si o no?
[03:24] <CS5> tried through konqueror
[03:24] <CS5> and
[03:24] <CS5> lol forget the name 1 moment
[03:24] <mneptok> !es | fabian
[03:24] <ubotu> fabian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:25] <CS5> and through system menu
[03:25] <CS5> storage devices
[03:25] <CS5> mount
[03:25] <mneptok> CS5: what is your username in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <Bdonohue> !usb | Bdonohue
[03:25] <CS5> default
[03:25] <mneptok> ?
[03:26] <CS5> no session other than the original live session
[03:26] <mneptok> you chose the username "default?"
[03:26] <mneptok> oh, it's live
[03:26] <CS5> just has ubuntu :Default then other tty 1 tty2, etc.
[03:26] <CS5> yes
[03:27] <mneptok> sudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/some/device/there /media/ntfsdrive
[03:28] <mneptok> you'll need to know the /dev entry of your ntfs drive
[03:28] <CS5> thats the hdc1
[03:28] <CS5> ?
[03:32] <kflex> help anyone?
[03:33] <mneptok> sudo mkdir /media/ntfsdrive && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/ntfsdrive
[03:34] <CS5> in konsole i must be doing something wrong i get mkdir cannot create /media/ntfsdrive':file exists and error
[03:34] <CS5> mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:34] <CS5> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[03:34] <CS5> when i mount
[03:34] <kflex> i mounted a usb floppy drive but i can't see where it is. help nyone, pleas?
[03:37] <kflex> i need help
[03:37] <mneptok> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/ntfsdrive
[03:37] <CS5> Could not mount device.
[03:37] <CS5> The reported error was:
[03:37] <CS5> mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:37] <mneptok> kflex: df -h
[03:38] <kflex> mneptok: what is df -h?
[03:39] <mneptok> kflex: df = disk free
[03:39] <JSquat> Neither 'adept' nor 'aptitude' are able to install packages.
[03:39] <mneptok> -h = show in human readable numbers
[03:39] <JSquat> Any help? I
[03:39] <JSquat> 'll get specific error message now.
[03:40] <mneptok> CS5: are you *sure* it's hdc1?
[03:40] <CS5> yes it is mounted ty
[03:40] <CS5> do i have to do that with each everytime?
[03:41] <CS5> and if i instal can i do it once and never again?lol ty again
[03:41] <kflex> mneptok: thanks.
[03:42] <JSquat> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[03:43] <JSquat> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/avaliable' near line 1: field name `' must be followed by colon
[03:44] <kflex> why i can't see the usb floppy drive? where can i browse it?
[03:44] <CS5> lol, now when i try to enter the mounted volume i get this error Could not enter folder /media/ntfsdrive.
[03:44] <mneptok> JSquat: dpkg --configure -a
[03:45] <JSquat> mneptok: same output
[03:45] <mneptok> CS5: sudo chmod 777 /media/ntfsdrive
[03:45] <JSquat> pkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[03:45] <JSquat>  field name `' must be followed by colon
[03:47] <CS5> still no go  sudo chmod 777 /media/ntfsdrive
[03:48] <CS5> read-only filesystem
[03:48] <fnordperfect> Qt: 3.3.7
[03:48] <fnordperfect> KDE: 3.5.7
[03:48] <fnordperfect> kde-config: 1.0
[03:49] <fnordperfect> Random Fortune: Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Environment. 	-- seen in a posting in comp.software.testing
[03:49] <JSquat> problem arose after running either 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' to remove eclipse and another package. the tools were run because 'kdesu' (or whatever the tool is) much like 'sudo', fails to gain root privilages.
[03:50] <CS5> if I started fresh instal on clean partitions should i go all ext3 fs?
[03:50] <mneptok> yes
[03:50] <Kprofthreat> Hey. I'm having a problem with my sound. I had it earlier, now it's gone again. My sound IS on alsa, I checked alsamixer. Nothing's muted, I think. Any ideas, anyone?
[03:50] <JSquat> mneptok: any ideas?
[03:50] <CS5> and would i be able to store all my other files in this type of fs? like avis and stuff?
[03:51] <fnordperfect> (oh damn, did this stuff really got sent *into* the channel?? sorry guys.. )
[03:52] <darkrift411> hrmmmm
[03:52] <mneptok> JSquat: clean apt's cache?
[03:53] <Kpr> Hey. I'm having a problem with my sound. I had it earlier, now it's gone again. My sound IS on alsa, I checked alsamixer. Nothing's muted, I think. Any ideas, anyone?
[03:54] <JSquat> alright. nevermind. i think i fixed it. did a cat /var/lib/dpkg/available-old >/var/lib/dpkg/available
[03:55] <JSquat> mneptok: i fear using apt and other tools now. the last thing i need is a reinstall of anything on this machine and either aptitude or some other tool, broke the file.
[03:55] <JSquat> thanks for the help though. risked and fixed.
[03:56] <sharkface> can someone help me with my printer
[03:57] <Kpr> Sharkface, what's your printer model?
[03:58] <sharkface> hp pcs 2175
[03:58] <Kpr> !doesntwork | sharkface
[03:58] <ubotu> sharkface: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:58] <sharkface> well its on a windows computer im networked to.
[03:58] <sharkface> i installed samba
[03:58] <sharkface> and the printer will show up in the queue
[03:58] <sharkface> just nothing happens
[03:58] <sharkface> i think its an issue with cups or CIFS or something
[03:59] <sharkface> ived searched all over google and forums
[04:00] <Bdonohue> My uhm mother doesn't work.
[04:01] <Kpr> !dontyell bdonohue
[04:01] <Bdonohue> !dontyell | Bdonohue
[04:01] <Bdonohue> That one doesn't work ;)
[04:02] <sharkface> does anyone know what i can do to fix the problem?
[04:02] <Bdonohue> Hm, I'm not too up on the printers as mine just randomly worked.
[04:02] <sharkface> im pretty sure the issue is getting it to work over the network
[04:06] <dranas> hello ppls
[04:06] <dranas> i got a question
[04:07] <CS5> me too
[04:07] <dranas> i just upgraded to fiesty
[04:07] <CS5> me too
[04:07] <dranas> and like my wireless is being a whore
[04:07] <dranas> it sees the device
[04:07] <dranas> sees netowrks
[04:07] <dranas> but, doesnt wanna connect
[04:07] <CS5> right key?
[04:07] <dranas> yes
[04:08] <dranas> it says configureing device and stops ar 28%
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> dranas: nah, if it really was a whore, it'd connect to every network in sight :P
[04:08] <dranas> lmao
[04:08] <CS5> normally id say sometimes changing the channel its on helps if theres more than one network around but i am having a fu&* of a time myself
[04:08] <CS5> thats good willy
[04:09] <dranas> least i still got mp3 support
[04:09] <CS5> lol
[04:09] <dranas> and my printer works
[04:09] <CS5> im workin on it
[04:09] <os2mac> does anyone have an idea of when Thunderbird 2.0 will be available in the repositories?
[04:09] <dranas> i hate canon printers...
[04:09] <CS5> me too
[04:09] <dranas> but i got one for free
[04:09] <CS5> i hate microsoft more though
[04:09] <dranas> so i was like what the hell
[04:09] <dranas> yes
[04:09] <dranas> i hate windows, i like x box
[04:09] <CS5> id take it too
[04:09] <CS5> oh yeah
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> dranas: are you doing this through knetwork manager, or via cmd line?
[04:10] <dranas> knetwork
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> dranas, ok, lemme fire up my lappy and try to see if i can help
[04:11] <dranas> okies thanks
[04:13] <intelikey>         can anyone illuminate this for me ?    "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  ???    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )
[04:14] <dranas> BLARG DAMNIT
[04:14] <dranas> .....i just noticed this kernel isnt using my dual core porperly
[04:14] <dranas> .....
[04:14] <dranas> ....BLARG
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> dranas: what brand/model?
[04:15] <dranas> core 2 duo
[04:15] <dranas> its not using the generic kernel or something
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> dranas: from what i understand, those aren't completely supported yet
[04:16] <dranas> nuuuuu
[04:16] <dranas> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic so this wouldnt work this time?
[04:16] <abaqueri> someone could help with amule?
[04:16] <abaqueri> gday
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> dranas: also, it could just be that the second core scales down when its not being used, im not to up on those...
[04:17] <dranas> well does fiesty use a generic core like edgy did?
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> dranas: yup
[04:17] <dranas> ok mine isnt using it
[04:17] <dranas> so that command should give me the other kernel correct?
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> wtf? yeah, it should
[04:18] <dranas> .....y do i think i need to fix grub
[04:19] <dranas> where would i find the menu.lst?
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> dranas: /boot/grub/
[04:19] <dranas> ty kindly
[04:20] <dranas> let me reboot i shall return shortly
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> dranas: k
[04:22] <Bdonohue> Animals in #ubuntu. ANIMALS.
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:23] <Bdonohue> Hey hitmanWilly: You don't have any experience with using a flash drive as the LiveCD medium do you?
[04:23] <Bdonohue> As in booting the liveCD from there?
[04:23] <dranas> whee
[04:23] <dranas> yes dual core power
[04:24] <os2mac> !thunderbird
[04:24] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[04:24] <dranas> im going to attempt to see if my wireless is working so i may end up getting kicked
[04:25] <Bdonohue> !firefox
[04:25] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> !info thunderbird
[04:25] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:25] <Bdonohue> It's mozilla-thunderbird
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[04:25] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB
[04:25] <Bdonohue> :)
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> i knew that :P
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> nope, still 1.5
[04:25] <Bdonohue> I can't believe the crap I learned today trying to get Feisty to boot from the liveCD.
[04:25] <dranas> ok
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> dranas: seems to be working :)
[04:26] <Bdonohue> Like I can't believe how well it doing something is to teaching you.
[04:26] <dranas> no
[04:26] <dranas> this is my wired
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> k
[04:26] <dranas> it stops at the activation stage
[04:26] <Bdonohue> Take out your disc.
[04:26] <Bdonohue> Take out any discs and reboot.
[04:27] <Bdonohue> That was my problem.
[04:27] <Bdonohue> If I booted the system with a disc inserted, my wireless wouldn't work.
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> dranas: what interface does it use, ie eth(x)
[04:27] <Bdonohue> If I removed the disc and restarted, it worked.
[04:27] <dranas> wlan0
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> Bdonohue: there's an interesting bug...
[04:27] <Bdonohue> And I know it sounds silly dranas, but try it.
[04:27] <Bdonohue> Unless you don't hvae any discs in.
[04:28] <dranas> ummm
[04:28] <dranas> what?
[04:28] <Bdonohue> Do you have a disc in the drive right now?
[04:28] <dranas> oh no i didnt use a live cd
[04:28] <Bdonohue> I mean do you have ANY disc in the drive?
[04:28] <dranas> i just upgraded from edgy to fiesty
[04:28] <dranas> yes a music cd
[04:28] <Bdonohue> Take it out.
[04:28] <dranas> ok
[04:28] <Bdonohue> And reboot.
[04:28] <Bdonohue> Then try.
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> dranas: ok, do you know the name (ESSID) of the network you are trying to connect to?
[04:29] <dranas> i just put it in though
[04:29] <dranas> yes
[04:29] <Bdonohue> Oh, okay. I thought you had it in when you booted.
[04:29] <Bdonohue> hitmanWilly: It definitely is, I'm using an Atheros card and HAL doesn't like it for some reason.
[04:30] <Bdonohue> hitmanWilly: ANY disc... A movie, music, Ubuntu, blank even.
[04:31] <NickPresta> Quick question - I have two on-board Ethernet ports. I am connected to the internet via one of them. When the computer boots up, both eth2 and eth3 are enabled although only one is in use. I have to manually go into System Settings and guess which is the "real" one. It changes randomly upon reboot and I don't know how to fix this. Any ideas on what to search for or where to start looking?
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> Bdonohue: did you file it via launchpad?
[04:31] <mneptok> NickPresta: /etc/network/interfaces
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> dranas: gimme a minute, reaquainting myself with cmd line wireless config :)
[04:32] <dranas> oki
[04:32] <Bdonohue> Nope.
[04:33] <dranas> do you think it could be a conflict between knetwork manager an the wireless lan assistant?
[04:33] <NickPresta> mneptok, this appears for both eth2 and eth3: "iface eth2/3 inet static". eth2/3 are not mentioned anywhere else.
[04:33] <Bdonohue> Hm... Dranas, have you installed network-manager?
[04:33] <Bdonohue> It has a KDE part to it as well.
[04:34] <Bdonohue> But it's the same base.
[04:34] <Bdonohue> The one with the roaming.
[04:34] <dranas> k network manager?
[04:34] <Bdonohue> Probably.
[04:34] <Bdonohue> I'm not sure, I'm back to Gnome again.
[04:34] <dranas> yeah it installed itself
[04:34] <Bdonohue> Okay.
[04:34] <darkrift411> lol
[04:34] <Bdonohue> What are you loling about?
[04:35] <dranas> i ike music, if it wasnt for music, id probably break this computer
[04:36] <banksey> Hey guys, I jus installed UnRAR from adept, But when I try and extract a file, It wont let me enter a password, Anyone know how to do this. Any help would be much approcated :)
[04:36] <BrianDonohue> There we go.
[04:36] <BrianDonohue> Better than BDonohue.
[04:37] <dranas> i wish i wouldve waited a few weeks to buy my dell
[04:37] <dwidmann> how lovely ...  plasterdust everywhere
[04:37] <BrianDonohue> WOOOSHHHHH, that's all it'll take to make a bigger mess.
[04:38] <dwidmann> BrianDonohue: oh, I get to continue on what I started tomorrow, so yeah, it'll be a bigger mess for sure
[04:39] <dwidmann> Pretty much the entire upstairs less my brothers bedroom is covered now, times like this that I wish I had a laptop ... then i wouldn't be in this room right now
[04:39] <BrianDonohue> That's why I bought mine.
[04:39] <dranas> on klaptop wtf does ondemand mean?
[04:39] <BrianDonohue> So far it's been the ideal linux laptop, other than the silly CD + Wireless bug.
[04:39] <BrianDonohue> Hm, not sure, dranas.
[04:40] <BrianDonohue> Guess I shouldn't answer.
[04:40] <dwidmann> course, the discouraging factor is that I have to get a wireless router to make this theory work :(
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> ok, i've forgotten all my wireless cmd line stuff...not good :(
[04:40] <dranas> oi
[04:40] <BrianDonohue> Lol, it's still fresh in my mind.
[04:40] <BrianDonohue> What's the problem again?
[04:40] <dranas> sudo ifconfig wla0 up doesnt work either
[04:40] <dranas> my wireless lan connection
[04:40] <dranas> it sees the deivce
[04:40] <dranas> it sees the netowkr
[04:40] <stdin> iwconfig for setting access point etc.
[04:40] <BrianDonohue> Uhm...
[04:41] <BrianDonohue> run this
[04:41] <BrianDonohue> sudo dhclient
[04:41] <dranas> but stops at 28% at the config stage
[04:41] <BrianDonohue> That always seems to associate for me.
[04:41] <BrianDonohue> It probably can't grab an IP.
[04:42] <intelikey> anyone?   "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> anyone what?
[04:42] <dranas> didnt work
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> What the heck are you trying to do?
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> Not you, dranas.
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> Lol.
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> Hmm, that's a weird problem.
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> Are you using native drivers or ndiswrapper?
[04:42] <dranas> ndiswrapper
[04:42] <BrianDonohue> Oh.
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> Shitty deal.
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> I mean.
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> Uh oh.
[04:43] <dranas> should i just do a clean install of ndis?
[04:43] <stdin> intelikey: maybe it was trying to check /proc/mounts to see if /dev/root is mounted but /proc wasn't mounted yet?
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> Hm yeah...
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> Well, you know what you could try?
[04:43] <dranas> wat
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> It's proprietary but it works.
[04:43] <jhutchins> dranas: Try eliminating the GUI and do it all from console.
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> Driverloader.
[04:43] <dranas> ive tried
[04:43] <intelikey> stdin but what was doing it ?
[04:43] <dranas> drverload?
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> And if it works, then you know that ndiswrapper will work.
[04:43] <dranas> i tired cmd line
[04:43] <jhutchins> ndiswrapper broke for me on the last upgrade.
[04:43] <BrianDonohue> If it doesn't, then something else is messed.
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> Also, make sure you compile ndiswrapper from source.
[04:44] <dranas> wtf is driver loader?
[04:44] <jhutchins> I ended up with a new NIC (and a new distro).
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> It's by Lucent.
[04:44] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[04:44] <dranas> lemme try fresh install of ndis
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> I had to use it a while back when I was too noob to figure out how to use the broadcom fwcutter crap.
[04:44] <stdin> intelikey: looks like maybe it's part of e2fsck
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> Dranas: Compile it from source.
[04:44] <dranas> maybe fiesty installed its messed upversion
[04:44] <dranas> i will
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> Uninstall the packages and use the source version.
[04:44] <BrianDonohue> Okay.
[04:44] <stdin> intelikey: as it's appears right before the fsck messages
[04:45] <jhutchins> dranas: some of the chipsets have two "firmware" files, a "driver loader" and the actual firmware.  Each one has to be loaded by ndiswrapper.  If ndiswrapper sticks at the first one, it won't work.  That's what happened to me.
[04:45] <intelikey> stdin why would e2fsck be ran from the initrd.img ?
[04:45] <dranas> ive had to do that like 3 times i remember it
[04:45] <intelikey> stdin err yes wait let me look at something.
[04:46] <jhutchins> ndiswrapper is a bit of a mess right now, last I looked the primary source for the firmware files was offline, and the new kernel stuff didn't want to work with the older firmware files.
[04:46] <BrianDonohue> dranas: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[04:46] <BrianDonohue> That's a last ditch.
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i think its set up that way to do a quick eroor check prior to mounting +rw
[04:46] <BrianDonohue> They give you a 30 day trial, but if it works there it'll work in ndis.
[04:46] <dsmith_> Question: Does xmms play mp3s by default?
[04:46] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i set it up.
[04:46] <jhutchins> dsmith_: You need the w32codecs.
[04:47] <stdin> dsmith_: nothing plays mp3s by default
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, nm :)
[04:47] <dranas> the hell
[04:47] <BrianDonohue> dsmith_: No you don't.
[04:47] <BrianDonohue> It works out of the box.
[04:47] <dranas> if i remove ndis 109 mbs will be freed up
[04:47] <dsmith_> the codecs are installed it says
[04:47] <jhutchins> stdin: mplayer will, there's another one that has it's own dmuxers independent of the codecs.
[04:47] <BrianDonohue> It should just play them. mplayer will and so will xmms
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> vlc i think...
[04:47] <stdin> jhutchins: yeah, I started thinking about it after i hit enter :p
[04:47] <BrianDonohue> That's what I used to do when I had the old Ubuntu's and wanted songs was just installed xmms.
[04:47] <jhutchins> dsmith_: 32 or 64b?
[04:48] <intelikey> as best i can tell modules.sh is throwing the message.
[04:48] <dsmith_> 32
[04:48] <BrianDonohue> dranas: Did you get that link in case?
[04:48] <dsmith_> I get this xmms message
[04:48] <jhutchins> !mpe | dsmith_
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <jhutchins> !mp3 | dsmith_
[04:48] <intelikey> let me add some debugginh and test it.
[04:48] <ubotu> dsmith_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <BrianDonohue> What's the error, dsmith_?
[04:48] <marcus__> Hi. I have an interesting problem. Whenever I try to lauch some progs: beryl, sk, amarok, etc I have to us?ually launch them a second time to get them to start. Any idea why
[04:49] <intelikey> brb
[04:49] <BrianDonohue> marcus__ I had that problem too for a while, then it just magically disappeared.
[04:49] <BrianDonohue> It seems to me that a lot in Linux is magic.
[04:49] <jhutchins> marcus__: Is this an ubuntu install upgraded to kubuntu?
[04:49] <dranas> what if i unblack list the natyive drivers?
[04:49] <marcus__> jhutchins: no but i have ubuntu in a different partition.
[04:50] <jhutchins> marcus__: Teh kubntu knoez! It sensez teh evil!
[04:50] <marcus__> jhutchins: hehehe
[04:51] <marcus__> The other thing is that kubuntu when it installed bogarted both my swap partitions.
[04:51] <jhutchins> Swap should be universal in linux, most distros will use any swap they find automatically.
[04:51] <dsmith_> BrianDonohue: It says "Please check that: YOur soundcard is configured properly and that you have the correct output plugin selected. NO tother program is blocking the sondcard" I fiddled with some settings and its not playinng
[04:51] <marcus__> Okay, so that isnt unusual.
[04:52] <BrianDonohue> Hm.
[04:52] <BrianDonohue> Hold on.
[04:52] <BrianDonohue> I don't even have XMMS instaleld.
[04:52] <jhutchins> marcus__: Try starting the programs from a console, see what they do.
[04:52] <dsmith_> amarok wont start either for some strange reason
[04:52] <BrianDonohue> What version of ubuntu are you using anyway?
[04:52] <marcus__> jhutchins: okay sec
[04:52] <dsmith_> Fiesty
[04:53] <marcus__> jhutchins: came up fine in konsole. Hmmm stranger and stranger
[04:53] <BrianDonohue> I mean't marcus__
[04:53] <BrianDonohue> Haha\
[04:54] <marcus__> BrianDonohue: 7.04 on both
[04:54] <BrianDafk> Oh.
[04:54] <jhutchins> marcus__: Hrm.  menu problems are a b10tch.
[04:54] <BrianDafk> Uhm... Yeah, let jhutchins help, I've got a phone call.
[04:55] <marcus__> jhutchins: Wonder if I should just rebuild the menu?
[04:55] <jhutchins> Um, I'm actually just passing through...  I'll drop back in if I think of anything.
[04:55] <jhutchins> marcus__: couldn't hurt.
[04:55] <marcus__> jhutchins: Thanks.
[05:00] <michaelmcgee> can someone help me with a ndiswrapper problem for kubuntu x64 (modprobe issue)
[05:00] <intelikey> ok.   that error is from this command.   "/sbin/e2fsck -p /dev/root"
[05:00] <BrianD-AFK> What's wrong michaelmcgee?
[05:02] <intelikey> you were correct.  about the source.  now  what does "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  mean ?   is it looking for ext2fs_check_if_mount  or is that a system call in the e2fsck command ?
[05:02] <intelikey> @ stdin
[05:02] <michaelmcgee> brian- i try to install netgear wg311v3 on kubuntu x64 with ndiswrapper and it works up to the point where it says hardware present but when i run the command modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens(i mean that cant enter commands after it)
[05:02] <michaelmcgee> the next  blah blah#   line doesnt show up
[05:03] <intelikey> but cap ?
[05:03] <stdin> intelikey: i would say that it's the call that's failed
[05:04] <intelikey> you don't have a file by that name do you ?
[05:04] <intelikey> ext2fs_check_if_mount
[05:04] <stdin> nope
[05:05] <dsmith_> wtf sound is working now from shoutcast via streamtuner... damn Tux magic heh
[05:05] <stdin> intelikey: I still think that it was probably looking in /proc for 'mounts' and /proc wasn't mounted yet
[05:05] <intelikey> ok then... hmmm.   i'll try mounting /proc prior to that stage and see what it yelds
[05:05] <dsmith_> I did have citrix client open from work
[05:06] <intelikey> what's the command line for mounting proc ?
[05:06] <intelikey> mount none /proc -t proc  ?
[05:07] <michaelmcgee> can someone help me with a ndiswrapper problem in kubuntu x64 (modprobe issue)
[05:07] <stdin> intelikey: mount proc /proc -t proc
[05:07] <intelikey> yeah just tested  none works as well
[05:08] <Dr_willis> i recall that mounting proc stuff from the GENTOO install docs. :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> and /dev
[05:08] <Dr_willis> right befor ya chrooted to the dir to root to  things   :) Old-skool!
[05:08] <intelikey> yeah mount /dev/null /proc -t proc   works too
[05:09] <dwidmann> Failing to remember that you could have always just added it to the fstab and ran mount -a of course. (yeah yeah, I tak the lazy way out sometimes ...)
[05:09] <intelikey> dwidmann not in a startup script that is about to fsck /  you don't want to mount -a
[05:10] <dwidmann> intelikey: hehe, yeah, probably not.
[05:10] <intelikey> back in a few.  testing now.
[05:12] <dranas> yay it works
[05:12] <dranas> i reinstalled ndsi and now its all good
[05:13] <michaelmcgee> i need help with ndiswrapper        modprobe
[05:14] <rathel> How would I make a script to backup a folder into an archive, and I run it every so often and it only Overwrites the changed files in the archive? Would tar cjf --backup=simple do the job?
[05:14] <intelikey> ok that cleared that up.   now the only anomily is in the initrd.img  and i don't know if i want to tackel that or not....
[05:14] <intelikey>  end result   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37563
[05:15] <intelikey> rathel no. that would overwrite the whole file
[05:15] <intelikey> rathel but tar does have an incrimental switch
[05:17] <rathel> intelikey: Okay.. I guess I could go that way, I was hoping you could just sync it like you can do with RAR.
[05:17] <intelikey> !info kitchensync
[05:17] <ubotu> kitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 823 kB, installed size 2468 kB
[05:21] <wolferine> so each time I edit a file with nano, not as sudo, i get 'Error reading /home/user/.nano_history: Permission denied', why is nano setup that way?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  just remove the file then?
[05:23] <wolferine> remove it?
[05:23] <stdin> wolferine: just chown it
[05:23] <wolferine> i can fix it
[05:23] <wolferine> im asking why its that way
[05:24] <stdin> wolferine: sudo chown $(whoami) ~/.nano_history
[05:24] <wolferine> good god
[05:24] <stdin> not sure why exactly
[05:24] <Dr_willis> I dont use nano.   file a bug report perhaps.
[05:25] <stdin> maybe if you run nano as root the 1st time it creates the file as root
[05:25] <Dr_willis> see who owns the file.  see if its a owner issue. or a permission issue.
[05:25] <wolferine> yeah
[05:25] <wolferine> could be that
[05:26] <stdin> permissions should be "-rw-------" (600) and owned by the user
[05:26] <wolferine> yeah
[05:26] <wolferine> it is
[05:26] <roni_> hey
[05:28] <intelikey> wolferine short answer to your Q, because you probably did something like sudo sh  and ran nano one time.   it's a permissions error
[05:28] <Slyron> yo
[05:29] <wolferine> yeah
[05:29] <wolferine> so what stdin said
[05:29] <wolferine> which makes sense
[05:30] <intelikey> wolferine so to avoid such  don't     sudo *sh    or   sudo su    but rather use   sudo -i  or  sudo su -    which will put you in full "root" environment including home dir.
[05:31] <wolferine> sudo -i?
[05:31] <wolferine> havent used that before
[05:31] <stdin> man sudo <- learn something new :)
[05:31] <wolferine> alwready on it :)
[05:32] <wolferine> you wraskely wabbit
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[05:32] <wolferine> so sudo su - does cd ~ too?
[05:33] <intelikey> su -     is good.
[05:33] <wolferine> so sudo will cd ~ into /home/user?
[05:34] <wolferine> i mean sudo su
[05:34] <intelikey> test it
[05:34] <wolferine> i think I just might :P
[05:34] <wolferine> but your distracting me from bash scripting :P
[05:34] <intelikey> but just   sudo su  will not  do any 'cd'  and that's the major point.
[05:35] <fyrmedic> Is there a good way to use the live cd to recover and backup a windoze partition before I wipe it out with a clean install of kubuntu
[05:35] <intelikey> wolferine you bash'n ?
[05:35] <wolferine> learning
[05:36] <intelikey> fyrmedic depending on the type of backup you have in mind.   several options are at your disposal
[05:37] <intelikey> wolferine i'm sure you already knew about the  pwd  command too.
[05:38] <wolferine> of course
[05:38] <fyrmedic> intelikey; I want to mount the ntfs drive, backup documents and files that were created in XP to CD then install kubuntu instead of windows.
[05:39] <intelikey> fyrmedic that should be about a point and click manuvior
[05:39] <Sly_Ronin> hello?
[05:39] <intelikey> roni
[05:40] <Sly_Ronin> intelikey?
[05:40] <fyrmedic> intelikey; even using the live cd?
[05:40] <intelikey> fyrmedic errrr only one cd drive ?
[05:40] <fyrmedic> inelikey; yeah
[05:40] <intelikey> eeeek
[05:40] <fyrmedic> yeah
[05:40] <intelikey> well not so simple then.
[05:40] <Sly_Ronin> linux probs?
[05:41] <fyrmedic> intelikey: what about networking the backup? that should be even easier
[05:41] <intelikey> fyrmedic easiest way would be boot that other os and backup your stuffff
[05:42] <Sly_Ronin> do you guys know where I can find a solid listing of IRC channels?
[05:42] <Sly_Ronin> about any and all shit
[05:42] <intelikey> fyrmedic yeah network would be pretty easy
[05:42] <intelikey> Sly_Ronin /list   but i don't think you want that
[05:42] <fyrmedic> intelikey; that other os crashed. hence the backup before switching to the right os
[05:42] <OrgulloKmoore> how can I change the screen resolution? It seems like it should be easy, but I don't figure it out. Everything's tiny
[05:43] <stdin> !resolution
[05:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <intelikey> fyrmedic yeah konqueror should make backing up on a network simple if you have an nfs place to put them
[05:44] <intelikey> stdin what would you sujest for the net backup from a live CD  ?
[05:45] <stdin> my preference is to use ssh, but that's mostly linux-to-linux
[05:45] <OrgulloKmoore> stdin> there is no fun GUI way to do it? (In Windows you right click the desktop and move the little slider over)
[05:45] <BrianDonohue> !fr
[05:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <stdin> OrgulloKmoore: you never used fish:// ?
[05:45] <OrgulloKmoore> stdin> I have, but I don't know what that has to do with screen resolution...
[05:46] <intelikey> yeah rsync no doubt.
[05:46] <stdin> OrgulloKmoore: oh, the screen res :p
[05:46] <stdin> OrgulloKmoore: System Settings -> Display
[05:46] <fyrmedic> thanks guys I'll play with it for awhile.
[05:46] <OrgulloKmoore> stdin> that doesn't exist for me..there is no display option there
[05:47] <stdin> OrgulloKmoore: monitor & display ?
[05:48] <OrgulloKmoore> About me, regional and language, accessibility, default application, appearance, desktop, splash screen, window behavior, notifications, date and time, keyboard and mouse, sound system, printers, network settings, sharing, bluetooth
[05:49] <stdin> that dapper then?
[05:49] <intelikey> even dapper has a way to change rez in the kmenu
[05:49] <OrgulloKmoore> stdin> it used to be...but I recently updated in a very ghetto way and now everything's messed up
[05:50] <stdin> system settings changed a bit from dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[05:50] <OrgulloKmoore> upgraded*
[05:50] <intelikey> and the upgrade may have not brought in all the newer "stuff"
[05:50] <OrgulloKmoore> is there a way to reinstall the control center or whatever it's called?
[05:51] <OrgulloKmoore> or bring in more new stuff...
[05:51] <intelikey> you can reinstall any package that dpkg has installed
[05:51] <stdin> OrgulloKmoore: tye in kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Monitor & Display
[05:51] <Nuked> how do I get kde programs to show up properly in other wm's (themewise)
[05:51] <michaelmcgee> can anybody help me with kubuntu x64 ndiswrapper?
[05:52] <intelikey> but i would sujest remove and reinstall kubuntu-desktop  should pull in all the newities
[05:52] <OrgulloKmoore> stdin> nope, there is no "Monitor and Display"
[05:52] <Nuked> any Ideas?
[05:53] <intelikey> Nuked which other wm ?     not that i'll be able to help...
[05:53] <OrgulloKmoore> hmm...so nothing?
[05:53] <OrgulloKmoore> lol...we have more problems than solutions
[05:53] <Nuked> something like enlightenment dr 17 or fvwm-crystal
 but i would sujest... @ OrgulloKmoore
[05:54] <Nuked> pretty much all programs work
[05:54] <OrgulloKmoore> oh, ok, gotcha, intelikey
[05:54] <Nuked> qt apps just dont show up themed
[05:55] <OrgulloKmoore> yeah, that makes sense, cuz I installed and upgraded ubuntu-desktop last time
[05:55] <intelikey> Nuked hmm   idk.   i use blackbox some and never noticed anything odd about qt apps.
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[06:00] <OrgulloKmoore> intelikey> that worked :)
[06:00] <OrgulloKmoore> now...how can I get more keyboard layouts?
[06:01] <OrgulloKmoore> before I had them, but now for some reason I only have American and British English available
[06:01] <OrgulloKmoore> (and I want Latin American Spanish and Quebec French)
[06:02] <intelikey> apt-cache search language-pack-kde | less
[06:04] <OrgulloKmoore> intelikey> those seem to be translations of the documentation and whatnot rather than the actual keyboard layout, no?
[06:05] <OrgulloKmoore> I want to be able to type jalapeno, pinata, and resume correctly, for example
[06:05] <Kprofthreat> Can I get someone's assistance? I'm having a sound issue with Kubuntu 7.04 Everything on ALSA, checked alsamixer, speakers ARE plugged in, don't ask, and I even tried compiling a new driver. I AM using an audigy soundcard. Any suggestions?
[06:05] <intelikey> OrgulloKmoore ummm i think they will pull in the others as deps     but not sure
[06:06] <OrgulloKmoore> mm...they don't
[06:06] <OrgulloKmoore> before I had a long list of layouts to choose from...
[06:06] <OrgulloKmoore> it's strange
[06:07] <intelikey> OrgulloKmoore not strange. just change.   locales   search locales
[06:08] <intelikey> !sound | Kprofthreat if it is worth anything there is a wiki page...
[06:08] <ubotu> Kprofthreat if it is worth anything there is a wiki page...: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:21] <rathel> How do I run nice without sudoing?
[06:22] <savetheWorld> run it only on procs you own.
[06:23] <rathel> So I have to sudo when running it with wine than?
[06:23] <stdin> why are you running wine with sudo then?
[06:24] <rathel> I'm not.
[06:24] <stdin> then you don't need sudo to set a new level for wine
[06:25] <rathel> Than I think I'm doing it wrong..
[06:25] <dranas> hey i got a question im trying to install xmame
[06:26] <dranas> after i do sudo make
[06:26] <dranas> then do sudo make install this is what i get
[06:26] <dranas> Installing binaries under /usr/local/bin...
[06:26] <dranas> /usr/bin/install -d -o root -g bin -m  755 /usr/local/bin
[06:26] <dranas> /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g bin -m  555 xmame.x11 /usr/local/bin
[06:26] <dranas> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `xmame.x11': No such file or directory
[06:26] <dranas> make: *** [doinstall]  Error 1
[06:26] <stdin> dranas: xmame is in the repos
[06:27] <dranas> when  i install it from the repo i cant seem to get it to open
[06:27] <rathel> I keep getting Permission denied, what am I doing wrong?
[06:34] <dranas> ok so how am i supposed to run xmame then?
[07:01] <rathel> nice -n -15 wxvlc comes back with "Permission Denied" what am I doing wrong?
[07:01] <intelikey> rathel too high nice value ?
[07:02] <intelikey> users can only go to -10  no ?
[07:02] <rathel> intelikey: I don't know, every other value I try I get the same result.
[07:03] <Rictoo_> how would I see how many files are in a folder
[07:03] <intelikey> errr and try vlc
[07:03] <Rictoo_> and how would I see the size of a folder? (all from shell)
[07:03] <intelikey> Rictoo_ ls | wc -l
[07:03] <intelikey> size  du
[07:04] <Rictoo_> thanks intelikey
[07:04] <rathel> What do you mean "and try vlc"?
[07:04] <intelikey> rathel in place of wxvlc
[07:04] <Rictoo_> intelikey: size du doesn't work
[07:04] <Rictoo_> :\
[07:04] <dranas> how do i use xmame?
[07:05] <Rictoo_> size: 'du': No such file
[07:05] <rathel> intelikey: aw same result.
[07:05] <Rictoo_> I want to check the size of a FOLDER
[07:05] <linuksoid> hi all
[07:05] <intelikey> for size use:  du
[07:10] <marcus__> !fonts
[07:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:18] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37566
[07:19] <intelikey> [ "some test" ]     <<< is  a ligitimate test   heh oh well....
[07:19] <intelikey> i would have thought it would fail
[07:20] <stdin> intelikey: I think that's the same as [ -n "some test" ] 
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Is there a way to get notified in KDE if someone starts shutting down the machine ?
[07:21] <Ash-Fox> Gah, I need to get a bug tracker for my personal projects
[07:26] <intelikey> strike seven
[07:27] <intelikey> so anybody know how to read the RTC ?
[07:27] <intelikey> real time clock
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Ash-Fox: Install bugzilla
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Not that hard
[07:28] <stdin> intelikey: hwclock
[07:30] <intelikey> stdin is --utc and --localtime  the same thing ?
[07:30] <stdin> intelikey: no
[07:31] <intelikey> ah wait.  localtime is the utc  and utc is the local time    how convoluted can you get...
[07:31] <stdin> localtime will be + or - UTC
[07:31] <intelikey> nope.
[07:32] <intelikey> localtime is the utc
[07:33] <intelikey> but --utc (which i had be trying to get real utc 'the RTC actual time)  the converted local time.
[07:33] <stdin> UTC = Coordinated Universal Time
[07:33] <intelikey> not correct.
[07:33] <intelikey> i'll paste bin it
[07:33] <stdin> well, it's supposed to be
[07:34] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37567
[07:34] <intelikey> and i'm not in the utc time zone.
[07:35] <stdin> unless the system thinks that the clock is set to local time zone but is actually set to utc
[07:36] <intelikey> as you see the --localtime switch will display what ever the RTC actually says  and then  --utc is the localtime
[07:36] <stdin> yeah, that just makes tons of sense tho :p
[07:36] <intelikey> stdin :)
[07:37] <intelikey> well i did tzconfig and use the correct settings for my locale
[07:37] <intelikey> date  displays correctly
[07:38] <stdin> well just remember now, that up is down and left is right. and you'll be set :)
[07:38] <intelikey> right   lol
[07:38] <intelikey> i mean left
[07:38] <stdin> yep :)
[07:39] <intelikey> there was this file /etc/adjtime   did it have anything to do with that ?
[07:39] <intelikey> cause it kept messing up the RTC
[07:40] <stdin> don't know enough about it to say
[07:40] <stdin> but it could do
[07:40] <intelikey> i could have everything setup and syncronized   then run an update on the clock and it would set the RTC to unreasonable times...
[07:42] <FarrisG> Can anyone explain to me how to set it up so that I don't have to type my password to use knetworkmanager everytime I login?
[07:42] <intelikey> not even the same :mm   i mean unreasonable    like 4hours 33 minutes off  and just kept getting worse.   so i   ln -s /dev/null /etc/adjtime   and now the RTC stays set correctly
[07:43] <DaSkreech> FarrisG: Does it ask you to use KDEwallet?
[07:43] <intelikey> FarrisG you can edit /etc/sudoers   (use visudo)  and give your self NOPASSWD permission on that command.
[07:44] <DaSkreech> FarrisG: Wireless?
[07:44] <FarrisG> DaSkreech: It asked me about the wallet the first time, but not ever again.
[07:44] <FarrisG> intelikey: No thanks :)
[07:44] <stdin> intelikey: i think it uses kwallet to store the encryption key (wep/wpa*)
[07:44] <FarrisG> DaSkreech: Yes, wireless. And wep, not wpa
[07:44] <intelikey> a line something like this.    yourname ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/knetworkmanager*
[07:44] <DaSkreech> FarrisG: If you use a empty password for kwallet then it won't prompt you for the key again
[07:46] <intelikey> stdin not kdesu asking ?
[07:46] <intelikey> i missed that.
[07:46] <stdin> intelikey: no, kwallet, just checked
[07:47] <FarrisG> DaSkreech: Thanks, I'll do that for now. But is there anyway to just not use kwallet for it? I actually like to use kwallet for other things, and it's sort of useless without a password
[07:47] <DaSkreech> FarrisG: sure put in a password if you lilke
[07:48] <stdin> FarrisG: don't use knetworkmanager and it won't use kwallet
[07:48] <DaSkreech> FarrisG: it will ask you for the password everytime you jump on the wireless
[07:49] <stdin> FarrisG: you can put the settings in to the network part of system settings (if you don't use other access points much)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Anyone uses Digikam?
[07:50] <intelikey> i use killall too much for it to not be installed,  what package provides it ?
[07:51] <intelikey> psmisc ?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> !find killall
[07:51] <ubotu> File killall found in kde4sdk, kdesdk-scripts, librapi2-tools, psmisc, util-vserver (and 2 others)
[07:51] <stdin> intelikey: probably sysvutils
[07:52] <DaSkreech> !info psmisc
[07:52] <ubotu> psmisc: Utilities that use the proc filesystem. In component main, is standard. Version 22.3-1build1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 456 kB
[07:52] <stdin> intelikey: opps, that's killall5, not killall
[07:52] <intelikey> procps ?
[07:53] <stdin> psmisc has killall, procps has pgrep and pkill
[07:53] <intelikey> k psmisc it is
[07:53] <intelikey> ty
[07:54] <stdin> procps has ps too
[07:54] <intelikey> hmmmm well i have ps  but not killall
[07:55] <intelikey> have kill and killall5
[07:55] <stdin> psmisc is what you want then
[07:56] <intelikey> yeah fuser and killall   that's it.
[07:56] <intelikey> pstree    :)
[07:58] <intelikey> hmmmm in dash there is no $UID
[07:58] <stdin> hmm, what's /usr/bin/oldfusr ?
[07:58] <intelikey> ?
[07:58] <intelikey> symlink ?
[07:58] <qiqi> teliarpok tammarnerk KDE?
[07:59] <stdin> there's /bin/fuser and /usr/bin/oldfuser in psmisc
[07:59] <intelikey> let me look in the dapper package
[08:01] <intelikey> well it sure is...    idk what that is
[08:02] <underdog5004> oh man, the more time I spend learning about linux, the more I love it!
[08:03] <intelikey> i didn't see anything in the change log about it either
[08:04] <intelikey> matthew  :)
[08:04] <underdog5004> yes?
[08:04] <intelikey> what's got you so excited ?
[08:05] <underdog5004> lol, rdiff-backup, ssh-login-with-keys, and scripting
[08:05] <underdog5004> I love it!
[08:05] <intelikey> oh all the normal stuff     yeah....
[08:05] <underdog5004> ooooh...there goes my noobie pride, he he he
[08:05] <intelikey> :)
[08:05] <intelikey> sorry
[08:05] <underdog5004> oh...and I'm surprised you remembered my name...haven't been on in a month or so...
[08:05] <underdog5004> lol
[08:06] <intelikey> well i should confess.    "bx"
[08:06] <underdog5004> bx
[08:06] <underdog5004> bx?
[08:07] <intelikey> -:- underdog5004 [n=matthew@adsl-76-236-67-32.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net]  has joined #kubuntu  your join/part messages are in the same window that you talk in.  in bx  "bitchx"
[08:07] <stdin> same in konversation
[08:07] <intelikey> i didn't have to remember.
[08:07] <underdog5004> huh
[08:07] <stdin> but I know your last name too ;)
[08:08] <intelikey> Matthew Wennerholm  <<< that one ?
[08:08] <underdog5004> yeah...
[08:08] <underdog5004> that one
[08:09] <underdog5004> bet you don't know my sisters name!
[08:09] <intelikey> you don't have a sister !
[08:09] <underdog5004> whoa...
[08:09] <underdog5004> actually, I have 3...
[08:09] <underdog5004> so...on to other things...
[08:09] <intelikey> oh well    i tried.
[08:10] <stdin> yes, you don't have 'a' sister, you have 3 :)
[08:10] <underdog5004> oooh, you're good..
[08:10] <stdin> hehe
[08:10] <underdog5004> so, what's up w/ you guys? Any new developments?
[08:10] <underdog5004> seems pretty slow tonight, huh?
[08:11] <intelikey> yeah.   just kicking around some code actueally
[08:11] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37568
[08:11] <intelikey> converted it to full posix compliance
[08:11] <underdog5004> *examines code with practiced eye*
[08:12] <underdog5004> is there a way to limit bandwidth with scp transfers?
[08:12] <rayman> i dont know
[08:12] <stdin> not with scp itself  afaik
[08:13] <intelikey> if you called that "do_nothing" for example: do_nothing 02 12
[08:13] <intelikey> operador: do_nothing 1 64
[08:13] <underdog5004> stdin, another method, perhaps?
[08:13] <intelikey> or:
[08:14] <stdin> underdog5004: there is software you can install to limit your banwidth usage, but it's not exactly a 5min job
[08:14] <intelikey> traffic shappers
[08:15] <underdog5004> yeah...I was hoping for some kind of flag...you know... scp... -u 200 -d 500, but oh well
[08:15] <stdin> (which is in the SVN version of konversation now )
[08:15] <underdog5004> that would be so nice...when I do big transfers from my server to desktop or vice versa, my desktop _really_ slows down
[08:16] <underdog5004> intelikey, call me ignorant, but what does that code do?
[08:16] <stdin> underdog5004: there is the simple file sharing applet for kde, that lets you limit bandwidth
[08:17] <underdog5004> oooh, that sounds promising
[08:17] <stdin> "public file server"
[08:17] <underdog5004> ftp?
[08:17] <underdog5004> or sftp?
[08:17] <stdin> it's just a simple http server
[08:17] <intelikey> oh timyurl  heh i moded that to a shell script for the command line  :)
[08:17] <stdin> lets you share a folder over http
[08:17] <underdog5004> stdin, gotcha
[08:17] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37569
[08:18] <ksivaji> hi stdin
[08:18] <underdog5004> *examines code with practiced eye*
[08:18] <[Al] chemist_ex> is it very easy to get compiz runnin on kubuntu feisty?
[08:19] <ksivaji> !compiz
[08:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:19] <underdog5004> [Al] chemist_ex, hmm, I don't know...beryl and compiz merging seems to say to me "just wait for the dust to settle"
[08:19] <stdin> intelikey: you should probably get rid of the other dcop part too :p
[08:19] <stdin> hey ksivaji
[08:19] <stdin> [Al] chemist_ex: it's easier to get beryl working
[08:19] <[Al] chemist_ex> yeah I figured.  Compiz Fusion looks pretty cool.
[08:20] <[Al] chemist_ex> I had it workin', but I hate gnome and beryl always crashed after awhile in kde.
[08:20] <stdin> intelikey: and the "PORT=$1 ; SERVER=$2 ; TARGET=$3" part
[08:20] <intelikey> stdin yeah  but it works as is.  http://tinyurl.com/yochmu
[08:20] <intelikey> that's proof ^
[08:20] <stdin> intelikey: http://tinyurl.com/2lmn3b
[08:20] <stdin> mine too ^ :)
[08:21] <intelikey> :)
[08:22] <stdin> I want to be able to put a message in there too tho, like "name: some message TinyURL"
[08:22] <stdin> still working on that part
[08:26] <underdog5004> anyone have any problems with kubuntu ?
[08:27] <intelikey> preceed the $(    like  "Title: $var $(curl...
[08:27] <stdin> yeah
[08:27] <stdin> it won't make me coffee
[08:27] <underdog5004> mine makes coffee, but no cream or sugar...
[08:27] <intelikey> underdog5004 yes. i have lots of problems with it.    too much automatic crap.
[08:27] <dale> Hello
[08:28] <underdog5004> intelikey, lemme guess, you're a gentoo man?
[08:28] <intelikey> underdog5004 no.
[08:28] <intelikey> stdin http://tinyurl.com/2q4jtq
[08:29] <underdog5004> oh, ok, what's you're linux of choice?
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> linux?
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> hah!
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a plan 9 man
[08:29] <intelikey> :)
[08:29] <underdog5004> whoa...you're using plan 9?
[08:29] <intelikey> glenna ?
[08:29] <underdog5004> I read a bit about it...everything is a...filesystem?
[08:30] <underdog5004> right?
[08:30] <stdin> intelikey: it needs to work with dcop and has to be backward compatible too, as in, it has to work as "/tinyurl URL" and "/tinyurl URL name"
[08:30] <stdin> underdog5004: no, everthing is a file
[08:30] <intelikey> stdin doesn't need dcop for command line use
[08:31] <stdin> intelikey: no, but does need it to work (well) with konvi
[08:31] <underdog5004> isn't it the same in linux?
[08:31] <stdin> underdog5004: filesystem != file
[08:31] <underdog5004> no, I know
[08:31] <underdog5004> *sigh* now I sound ignorant/arrogant, not a good combo
[08:32] <intelikey> stdin yes     we are shooting different geese
[08:33] <stdin> intelikey: it's only because 1) it's what I use :) and 2) it's going to be in the next konvi release too
[08:33] <intelikey> oh my you have ran my timmer up to 142 minutes now.
[08:33] <stdin> underdog5004: btw :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system
[08:33] <intelikey> if i go over 170 minutes this week i'll remove the web browser
[08:33] <underdog5004> lol, I'm reading the article on Plan 9 now
[08:34] <stdin> Uptime: 4 days, 22 hours and 22 minutes
[08:34] <underdog5004> I know the difference between files and the filesystem.
[08:34] <intelikey> underdog5004 i dont actually use plan 9   i have before,  but not in a while.
[08:34] <stdin> (on a laptop)
[08:34] <underdog5004> seems hard to use at home, as it's a distributed OS...but if you've got a few computers at home...
[08:37] <intelikey> my web browser has ran 142 minutes in the last 4 days.
[08:38] <intelikey> but that's more than X
[08:38] <stdin> what browser you using?
[08:38] <intelikey> elinks
[08:39] <stdin> ooh, my favourite (non X) browser
[08:39] <intelikey> and i forget to close it...
[08:39] <intelikey> go off and chat and do other things while it stairs at a pastebin....
[08:39] <stdin> just make a cron job "killall elinks" to run every 5 mins :p
[08:40] <intelikey> and it would go off just as the page loads about half the time....
[08:40] <stdin> ok, 10 mins
[08:41] <intelikey> that still wouldn't keep it from killing it 10 seconds after i open it.
[08:41] <intelikey> a warper would be better than a cron job
[08:42] <stdin> or just Ctrl-Z before you switch to another term
[08:43] <intelikey> stdin maybe you know an easy way to do what i was testing earlier,   howto run something in the background or another tty and use it's exit code in the forground  while the script does other things ???
[08:44] <stdin> hmm, I've never needed to do that
[08:44] <stdin> and, therefore, have no clue
[08:44] <stdin> I don't even know if that's possible
[08:44] <intelikey> intelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd2
[08:45] <intelikey> intelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd2
[08:45] <intelikey> nick completion....
[08:45] <intelikey> like:
[08:45] <intelikey> but that syntax errors      i'm not sure why
[08:46] <stdin> should you have that ; before } ?
[08:46] <intelikey> i think it has to be there...  i'll test it a little and get back to you
[08:47] <intelikey> that or newline
[08:48] <stdin> it'll be difficult to get an exit code from an proc in another tty (not so sure about a bg'd proc), as it's ran in another shell
[08:52] <underdog5004> good night
[08:57] <Zero1328> I was thinking of installing Kubuntu along with XP after I format my hard drive in the near future, but now I'm not so sure on it.. could someone give me advice on what to do?
[08:58] <Zero1328> The main issue is that I have a fair number of PC games so I'd either have to have XP or Wine..
[08:59] <ksivaji> Zero1328 what is u r problem
[08:59] <ksivaji> you want dual boot
[08:59] <Zero1328> whether to change to a dual-boot Kubuntu/XP or just stick to XP..
[09:00] <intelikey> just stick to xp
[09:00] <ksivaji> Zero1328 that is upto you
[09:00] <intelikey> but read the EULA first
[09:00] <ksivaji> hi  epimeth
[09:00] <Zero1328> yeah, obviously it's up to me. I'm trying to get advice on what to pick
[09:00] <epimeth> hi ksivaji, intelikey
[09:00] <intelikey> epimeth shalom
[09:01] <ksivaji> Zero1328 i will suggest u to have dual boot
[09:01] <epimeth> shalom, shalom
[09:02] <intelikey> Zero1328 just stick to xp    but read the EULA first   all od it.
[09:02] <ksivaji> Zero1328 because if xp got failed means linux will help you ? right
[09:02] <intelikey> s/od/of/
[09:02] <ksivaji> intelikey is there anyone who read EULA ?
[09:03] <Zero1328> ok, neither of you are really helping much
[09:03] <intelikey> i did.  and quit using M$
[09:03] <intelikey> ksivaji figured if that's what it took for me to see the light.....
[09:04] <ksivaji> Zero1328 what else you need ?
[09:04] <se7en> somebody know how to get nv or even nvidia driver working on the new 8600m gt (acer aspire 5920)
[09:04] <ksivaji> intelikey i am poor in English  so use easy words ok
[09:04] <Zero1328> I'm just trying to figure out the better choice and you're saying opposing things
[09:05] <intelikey> ksivaji ok.
[09:05] <ksivaji> Zero1328 each one will have diff opinion right
[09:06] <ksivaji> Zero1328 i feel comfortable with dual boot that is why i told you
[09:08] <intelikey> se7en is the hardware supported ?
[09:08] <intelikey> !nv | se7en
[09:08] <ubotu> se7en: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:09] <grul> !ntfs
[09:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:09] <grul> !ntfs-3g
[09:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:09] <se7en> intelikey: i guess not because i can only use vesa driver
[09:10] <se7en> as soon as i change to nv i get a black screen
[09:10] <intelikey> se7en hmmm  well my nvidia card is not supported with propritary drivers  but it will work with the nv driver
[09:11] <se7en> its the santa rosa chipset so i guess i have to wait
[09:12] <intelikey> se7en make sure that a sane modeline is used   sometimes i have trubble switching from vesa to other drivers without configuring the xorg.conf correctly for the monitor
[09:13] <intelikey> not all monitors support the same things...  and it can cause 'oops's
[09:13] <intelikey> doesn't often.  but can.
[09:13] <se7en> ok i will try but i have done that a couple of times befor on other computers and it worked
[09:14] <intelikey> yeah it's just a thought.
[09:14] <intelikey> even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then
[09:15] <se7en> thanks anyway :)
[09:15] <intelikey> :)
[09:18] <dranas> ellos
[09:18] <intelikey>  0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9
[09:18] <dranas> hmmm?
[09:19] <dranas> anyone on?
[09:19] <intelikey> pretty quiet this hour.
[09:20] <dranas> hey
[09:20] <Zero1328> Well it's very early morning in the USA, if I assume the majority originate there
[09:20] <dranas> i got a question, maybe you can figure it out
[09:20] <intelikey> maybe
[09:21] <dranas> i installed xmame from the repos, but, how do i get it to work?
[09:21] <intelikey> man xmame    ?
[09:21] <dranas> yes xmame
[09:21] <intelikey> no, did you read the documentation     man xmame
[09:21] <dranas> where do i find it?
[09:22] <dranas> or better yet, does kxmame work?
[09:22] <intelikey> you type that commeand     man xmame
[09:22] <intelikey> command
[09:22] <intelikey> i've never messed with either of them.
[09:22] <dranas> ok what exactly is a front end
[09:22] <Zero1328> hey ksivaji, you dual boot, right? how are your partitions set out?
[09:22] <intelikey> but the man pages are always a good start
[09:23] <dranas> something like a gui for something right?
[09:23] <nullkuhl>  guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?
[09:23] <dranas> cause kxmame is a front end for xmame, but everytime i go to install it it makes me uninstall xmame
[09:23] <ksivaji> Zero1328 yes
[09:24] <ksivaji> Zero1328 i installed windwos first
[09:24] <intelikey> dranas a frontend would be an application that uses 'blah' as it's backend   that is to say   that app1 is started and calls app2 to do actual work and then displays the result in app1      app1 being a frontend and app2 being a backend
[09:24] <nullkuhl>  guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?
[09:24] <dranas> ok so kxmame would need xmame to work correct?
[09:24] <intelikey> yep
[09:25] <dranas> well everytime i go to install kxmame from the repos it makes me uninstall xmame
[09:25] <dranas> and vice versa
[09:25] <dranas> and im like ahhhh
[09:25] <intelikey> dranas then kxmame is not a frontend for xmame  and they then are conflicting packages
[09:26] <ksivaji> Zero1328 the i installed  kubuntu there is a option which will allow u to resize the existing ntfs or fat partition and create one ext3 partition ok
[09:26] <dranas> but it says its a front end for it
[09:26] <dranas> and it actually looks for it to run
[09:26] <intelikey> dranas then it's a broken package.   and you should file a bug on it
[09:26] <dranas> but which one is broken do you think?
[09:26] <dranas> both?
[09:27] <intelikey> dranas probably both
[09:27] <stdin> xmame-x isn't the backend, it the frontend
[09:27] <dranas> ummm
[09:27] <dranas> ok its the front end eh?
[09:28] <dranas> A KDE frontend for xmame/xmess emulator. Based on gxmame plus many new features:
[09:28] <dranas> thats what kxmame is
[09:28] <stdin> xmame-x and kxmame are both frontends
[09:28] <dranas> then.....blarg
[09:28] <stdin> xmame-sdl is the backend i think
[09:28] <dranas> oi
[09:29] <intelikey> if they both require removal of the other, and one is a frontend to the other; then i'd have to say both packages were broken.   (logic test)
[09:29] <stdin> xmame isn't a package, it's a progect name
[09:29] <stdin> it's just bad naming and descriptions
[09:29] <intelikey> stdin and that was without the -x  on xmame  if that even exists...   so don't call me on the information i had.
[09:30] <stdin> !info xmame
[09:30] <ubotu> Package xmame does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:30] <dranas> ok so, then....omg
[09:30] <intelikey> ah the nomanclature of GNU/linux
[09:30] <dranas> this is makin my  head hurt lol
[09:30] <stdin> !info xmame-x
[09:30] <ubotu> xmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10241 kB, installed size 37724 kB
[09:30] <stdin> !info xmame-sdl
[09:30] <ubotu> xmame-sdl: SDL binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10180 kB, installed size 37524 kB
[09:30] <dranas> ok so what exactly do i need to use mame
[09:31] <stdin> get kxmame for a kde GUI
[09:31] <intelikey> and you'll need some mames
[09:31] <intelikey> :)
[09:31] <dranas> lol
[09:31] <dranas> ok
[09:32] <dranas> ok i get kxmame
[09:32] <dranas> ok its gotten
[09:32] <stdin> or get xmess :)
[09:32] <dranas> BLAHHH
[09:32] <stdin> !info xmess-x
[09:32] <ubotu> xmess-x: X binaries for the Multi Emulator Super System. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 3936 kB, installed size 13776 kB
[09:32] <dranas> >.>
[09:32] <intelikey> !info xmame-svga
[09:32] <ubotu> xmame-svga: SVGALIB binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (feisty), package size 10183 kB, installed size 37536 kB
[09:33] <stdin> both are mostly the same, and kxmame works with both
[09:33] <intelikey> stdin i could use that in the console ^
[09:33] <dranas> ok should i uninstall xmame?
[09:33] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, sdl only works on X
[09:33] <dranas> ok ima delete xmame
[09:33] <intelikey> yeah but svga works in the console
[09:34] <stdin> dranas: just install kxmame, it will (un)install everything it needs
[09:34] <stdin> intelikey: exactly
[09:34] <stdin> intelikey: then find some good dos games to play :P
[09:34] <dranas> i got roms
[09:34] <dranas> from my old windows pc
[09:35] <intelikey> good dos games   isn't that an oximoron ?
[09:36] <Ayabara> anyone using kubuntu and a dual monitor setup?
[09:36] <stdin> it's like "stable windows applications"
[09:36] <dranas> ummmm do you know where it installed xmess?
[09:36] <intelikey> !dualhead
[09:36] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:36] <stdin> the sentence is just all wrong
[09:36] <nullkuhl> guys pls help am tryin to modprobe the bluetooth headset module but failing :
[09:36] <nullkuhl>  sudo modprobe snd-bt-sco
[09:36] <nullkuhl> Password:
[09:36] <nullkuhl> FATAL: Error inserting snd_bt_sco (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/snd-bt-sco.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:37] <intelikey> "fastest windows ever"     translation   M$ has pulled the biggest con job yet.
[09:38] <dranas> lmao
[09:38] <nullkuhl> HELLO
[09:38] <stdin> if no one answers, no one knows
[09:39] <stdin> nullkuhl: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:39] <intelikey> !bluetooth
[09:39] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:39] <intelikey> ah same
[09:39] <nullkuhl> stdin: my problem is not with bluetooth its with the headset bluetooth
[09:39] <nullkuhl> connecting
[09:40] <dranas> grr
[09:40] <dranas> grrrr
[09:40] <wiilloow> kkeebbordd nnoott  ddoi  whaat  it sshouldd
[09:40] <dranas> grar
[09:40] <dranas> close a window
[09:40] <dranas> lol
[09:40] <stdin> nullkuhl: the page has links for gettings audio to work with it
[09:40] <dranas> umm about roms
[09:40] <dranas> should i take them outta their zip files and put them in something else?
[09:40] <dranas> RAR
[09:40] <nullkuhl> i saw it , the page is empty
[09:40] <Ayabara> intelikey: was that for me? I have dual head working, but I have some problems with focus. When I move the mouse pointer over to the other monitor, I want to focus to move there as well. Also, when I exit some applications, the focus suddenly jumps to the other monitor...
[09:40] <wiilloow> help  wwith  keeyybboaardd
[09:40] <nullkuhl> i already know abt this guide u know
[09:41] <dranas> pour more water on it
[09:41] <dranas> should i convert my zipped from files to tar.bz?
[09:41] <intelikey> Ayabara ah that i wouldn't know about.
[09:42] <intelikey> sorry
[09:42] <stdin> dranas: why?
[09:42] <Ayabara> intelikey: too bad :-)
[09:42] <dranas> Kxmame could not create a device option for the selected rom "tmnt.zip" for the system "ABC 80".
[09:42] <dranas> This error is usually due to either this system doesn't need a rom (bios only mode), or the file is not a valid rom for this system, or it is in a format that kxmame or xmess doesn't understand.
[09:42] <dranas> How would you like
[09:42] <intelikey> but if you want to script it....
[09:42] <intelikey> :)
[09:42] <wiilloow> aannyy  onnee  geettinngg  tthesee  mmeessssaageess??
[09:42] <dranas> yes
[09:42] <dranas> how many windows do you got open?
[09:43] <dranas> i had that happen to me before
[09:43] <wiilloow> hhooww  ddoo  ii  ffiixx  tthhe  kkeeyyss!1
[09:43] <dranas> it was typing in two windows at once
[09:43] <dranas> close all your windows, or reboot
[09:43] <dranas> that should fix it i think
[09:43] <stdin> dranas: try extracting the zip file
[09:43] <intelikey> wiilloow i've heard of mouse trails  but keyboard trailessssssss
[09:43] <dranas> then i get a bunch of files, is that a good thing?
[09:44] <stdin> dranas: I don't know, never ran xmame
[09:44] <wiilloow> ttry  itt  itss  a  paainn
[09:44] <intelikey> i can imagine.
[09:44] <dranas> im using xmess
[09:44] <dranas> i think
[09:44] <Zero1328> hm, I think the last concern I have with installing kubuntu would be drivers, but I haven't looked for documentation on that yet
[09:44] <intelikey> can you drop to a console and see if it's at the kernel level or the xorg level wiilloow
[09:44] <dranas> tttrrrrryyyyyy rrrreeeboooottttiiinnnnnngggg
[09:45] <wiilloow> i tried  tthe  key  bboaard setings  to  ssttopp  the  keey  deelaay  thatt  ssett  up  noww  i've  ggot this  prroblem!1
[09:45] <stdin> dranas: xmess/xmame same thing
[09:45] <dranas> ok
[09:45] <dranas> hmmm
[09:45] <intelikey> ok that answered me Q.
[09:46] <intelikey> so it's kde.   you can kill x  and clean out ~/.kde
[09:46] <intelikey> crude but affective
[09:46] <Jucato> do you mind telling him the side effects of deleting ~/.kde
[09:46] <wiilloow> got it Whaahoo!
[09:46] <dranas> your computer melts
[09:47] <intelikey> i didn't say delete ~/.kde   i said clean it out/up.
[09:47] <dranas> ok mme 32 dont work either
[09:47] <dranas> how nice
[09:47] <Jucato> that could be interpreted as deleting as well
[09:47] <dranas> mame
[09:47] <dranas> no delete is delete
[09:48] <dranas> clean out is like putting things back to defaults i think
[09:48] <intelikey> Jucato yeah. either way it'll fix his keyboard
[09:48] <stdin> deleting ~/.kde makes Matthias Ettrich shed a single tear
[09:48] <dranas> lmao
[09:48] <dranas> eh
[09:49] <dranas> go play in a freeway
[09:49] <intelikey> and who is rms ?
[09:49] <stdin> intelikey: "KDE was founded in 1996 by Matthias Ettrich, who was then a student at the Eberhard Karls University of Tbingen."
[09:49] <dranas> mmhmmm
[09:49] <dranas> go him
[09:49] <dranas> im asuming its a him
[09:49] <dranas> with my luck today its a chick
[09:50] <stdin> geek + founder of KDE = guy
[09:50] <dranas> y, cant i ever get these damned mame emulators to work
[09:50] <dranas> lmao
[09:50] <dranas> BLARG
[09:50] <intelikey> stdin abso-poso-lutely
[09:51] <stdin> besides, if he was a woman, konqi would be pink not green
[09:51] <intelikey> :)
[09:51] <dranas> i unno maybe she likes the color of money
[09:52] <Jucato> (Katie, Konqi's girlfriend, is green, too)
[09:52] <intelikey> yeah and RMS who dranas
[09:52] <dranas> ooo
[09:53] <dranas> i cant get no satisfaction
[09:54] <intelikey> members of the green dragon club ?
[09:54] <dranas> waaa i hate this
[09:54] <dranas> i cant even get quake to work
[09:54] <dranas> blarg
[09:54] <dranas> lucky i got a ps2 for games
[09:54] <dranas> ...my wife is playing in the litter box....
[09:54] <dranas> wtf is wrong in my life?
[09:54] <intelikey> lol
[09:55] <basse> dranas: sounds pretty bad yes
[09:55] <dranas> omg
[09:56] <dranas> now she wants me to smell the box
[09:56] <dranas> atleast my wireless works
[09:56] <dranas> and my system didnt melt when i upgraded to fiesty
[09:56] <dranas> hmmm
[09:57] <intelikey> lol
[09:58] <darkrift411> how do i make it so win+e opens a file explorer
[09:58] <darkrift411> anyone know?
[09:58] <Jucato> .
[09:58] <dranas> winefile?
[09:58] <darkrift411> sry to sound soo demanding the way i asked
[09:58] <darkrift411> no
[09:58] <darkrift411> konqerer
[09:58] <darkrift411> or whatever it is
[09:58] <darkrift411> i wish i had a better file explorer though
[09:58] <darkrift411> more like windows explorer
[09:58] <dranas> so what do you want?
[09:58] <Jucato> yes you have. it's called "Konqueror" :)
[09:58] <dranas> wine to open a file explorer?
[09:58] <darkrift411> no
[09:59] <intelikey> darkrift411 ?
[09:59] <Jucato> dranas: win+e = Win key + the letter E
[09:59] <darkrift411> i want to know how to make win+e open konqueror
[09:59] <darkrift411> yes
[09:59] <darkrift411> ty
[09:59] <basse> darkrift411: just make shortcut in menueditor
[09:59] <darkrift411> slightly intoxicated, couldnt think how to say it
[09:59] <dranas> magic
[09:59] <darkrift411> how do i do that basse ?
[10:00] <basse> darkrift411: for exameple, right click on K-menu button and open menueditor
[10:00] <intelikey> darkrift411 khotkeys
[10:00] <dranas> first you rols a d20 and summon a level 5 ice dragon
[10:00] <darkrift411> lol
[10:00] <basse> darkrift411: there find file browser thingy, edit it and add shortcut.
[10:00] <Jucato> dranas: please stop talking nonsense. thanks
[10:01] <dranas> geeze no sense of humor
[10:01] <darkrift411> wow
[10:01] <darkrift411> you guys rock
[10:01] <darkrift411> i love it in here :)
[10:01] <darkrift411> imma be an expert in no time :)
[10:01] <Jucato> humor has it proper place and proper time
[10:01] <stdin> careful Jucato is ALL MIGHTY in here
[10:01] <intelikey> we were afraid of that....   now he'll never leave  :)
[10:01] <Jucato> intelikey: oh I can make him leave
[10:01] <darkrift411> hey, he is helpful
[10:02] <dranas> konqi could be the ice dragon
[10:02] <intelikey> dranas wrong colour
[10:02] <Jucato> darkrift411: you might notice, though, that Win+E will run Konqueror as a web browser if you did it that way
[10:03] <darkrift411> yes
[10:03] <Jucato> green... snot dragon? :)
[10:03] <dranas> lol
[10:03] <darkrift411> lol
[10:03] <darkrift411> see, he does have a sense of humor
[10:03] <Jucato> :P
[10:03] <illriginal> Does anyone know a good website with different penguin/tux logos?
[10:03] <dranas> ^_^
[10:03] <intelikey> pond scum dragon ?
[10:03] <basse> illriginal: what kind you need?
[10:03] <intelikey> money dragon ?
[10:03] <darkrift411> also.... is there a google plugin for kapote?
[10:03] <Jucato> illriginal: http://tux.crystalxp.net/
[10:03] <Jucato> eat your heart out :)
[10:03] <darkrift411> kopete
[10:03] <darkrift411> or whatever it is
[10:03] <darkrift411> lol
[10:04] <intelikey> what are green dragons supposed to be anyway ?
[10:04] <Jucato> darkrift411: Google Plugin?
[10:04] <Jucato> darkrift411: you mean Google Talk on Kopete?
[10:04] <dranas> hey wheres a good place to get games?
[10:04] <darkrift411> yes
[10:04] <Jucato> !games | dranas
[10:04] <ubotu> dranas: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:04] <Jucato> darkrift411: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[10:04] <darkrift411> nice
[10:05] <illriginal> thank you Jucato!!! :P
[10:05] <Jucato> my fingers just hurt from all that typing and Ctrl+Tabbing... :P
[10:05] <basse> dranas: www.happypenguin.org
[10:05] <ksivaji> hi jucato
[10:05] <Jucato> hi ksivaji
[10:05] <dranas> those work for kubuntu also right?
[10:05] <Jucato> dranas: yep. Kubuntu and Ubuntu have the same repositories
[10:05] <Jucato> Emacs Tetris ftw!
[10:05] <intelikey> dranas kubuntu and ubuntu are the same distro.
[10:05] <dranas> ooo worms
[10:06] <dranas> well arent there like slight differnece in how itll be displayed cause of the differnece in kde and gnome?
[10:06] <dranas> or was that just a suse flaw?
[10:06] <Jucato> depends really...
[10:06] <intelikey> qt -vs- gtk   wars....
[10:06] <|Dylan|> hey, all.  is anyone here fairly knowledgeable about managing fonts, for example deleting around 3,000 or restoring to factory defaults?
[10:07] <dranas> o
[10:07] <intelikey> get all your wareZ at 127.0.0.1
[10:07] <Jucato> dranas: if the game is a GNOME/GTK or KDE/Qt app, there might be some inconsistencies in how windows and buttons are displayed. other than that, not really much of a diff...
[10:07] <|Dylan|> intelikey: lol!
[10:07] <intelikey> Jucato i'm just reclaiming the throne
[10:07] <dranas> oo ok
[10:07] <Jucato> |Dylan|: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts?
[10:08] <|Dylan|> Jucato: theyre on the root account, so i cant differentiate from the system fonts
[10:08] <Jucato> oh... hm...
[10:08] <|Dylan|> |Dylan|: i dont know enough about the linux font system or kde font system to know how to regen indexes etc
[10:08] <|Dylan|> rofl i just talked to myself.
[10:08] <Jucato> I think that fonts installed by root are automatically system fonts
[10:08] <|Dylan|> Jucato: i can locate the ~3k fonts with some creative grepping, etc
[10:09] <intelikey> i abdicate !
[10:09] <stdin> |Dylan|: intelikey already did that twice today, ans dranas does it all the time :p
[10:09] <Jucato> Jucato: does what?
[10:09] <Jucato> (just following the trend)
[10:09] <|Dylan|> mhmm ^.^
[10:09] <stdin> stdin: talks to them selfs
[10:09] <intelikey> oh wait i did didn't i,
[10:10] <intelikey> heh nick completion of like: example...
[10:10] <Jucato> [14:43]  <intelikey> intelikey:    openvt { cmd1 && blah || blah2 ; } ;cmd2
[10:10] <intelikey> yep
[10:10] <|Dylan|> anyway, can anyone walk me through the process of adding/removing fonts in console (bash)?  or how to restore all system fonts in kubuntu?
[10:11] <|Dylan|> i just dont want to be left with no fonts on my system and some terrible deed resulting....  i have data and apps i want to save!
[10:11] <basse> |Dylan|: i think you can just copy fonts into your ~/.fonts  directory. and they will appear automaticly
[10:11] <Jucato> how did you add the fonts? try to backtrack
[10:12] <|Dylan|> i added the fonts a month or two ago with the kde font installer
[10:12] <basse> |Dylan|: does it ask for root passwd?
[10:12] <|Dylan|> mhmm, i installed it as root....  thats the problem :-/
[10:12] <intelikey> sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep font)
[10:13] <Jucato> you and your crazy bash...
[10:13] <|Dylan|> whoa there...
[10:13] <basse> |Dylan|: what exactly is the problem with fonts currently?
[10:13] <intelikey> crazy bash  <*tilts head sideways*>
[10:13] <Jucato> there's 3000 of them
[10:13] <|Dylan|> i know almost all the basic commands and such youre using there intelikey, ive done some bash scripting myself, but i still dont follow you
[10:13] <|Dylan|> basse:
[10:14] <|Dylan|> i would love to have all 6500 fonts from a certain website on my comp, but OO.org and firefox dont like that
[10:14] <basse> sheeeeesh
[10:14] <basse> that's quite a lot of fonts
[10:14] <stdin> |Dylan|: that will reinstall all the packages that are fonts that you already have installed
[10:14] <|Dylan|> lol yeah
[10:14] <basse> |Dylan|: you can basicly put those in your ~/.fonts/  dir
[10:15] <intelikey> |Dylan| that should reinstall all the font packages that dpkg installed.  thus overwriting and restoring
[10:15] <|Dylan|> they cant handle that many fonts, so not only can i not switch to many of the fonts, they mistake fonts for others--like times new roman.
[10:15] <grul> !wine
[10:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:15] <|Dylan|> overwriting the fonts i installed on my own?
[10:15] <dranas> oh hey i got a quick question, once i upgraded to fiesty, my trash can vanished
[10:15] <dranas> and i need to find it so i can empty it
[10:16] <|Dylan|> dranas: lol.  vanished from where?
[10:16] <dranas> down by my cocl
[10:16] <dranas> clock
[10:16] <dranas> or the desktop
[10:16] <intelikey> the ones that are in the packages of fonts installed    just run the part within  $() to see a list of what will be installed
[10:16] <|Dylan|> right click on the kicker and add the applet again
[10:16] <stdin> dranas: just navigate to trash:/ in konqueror
[10:17] <intelikey> reinstalled.    and one could  use that for a list and remove all fonts then install with that list also.
[10:17] <stdin> dranas: you can even put a link to that url on the desktop/kicker (by the clock)
[10:17] <|Dylan|> so should i start off by removing all of my 3000 fonts (incl. system fonts) in console?
[10:17] <dranas> ok i found it i hadf to add an applet
[10:17] <basse> |Dylan|: i dont think you want to remove all system fonts
[10:17] <dranas> ty guys
[10:17] <dranas> or gals
[10:17] <dranas> or both
[10:17] <|Dylan|> id love to keep all the system fonts and only delete the 3000 "new" ones, that would be fine with me
[10:18] <basse> |Dylan|: can't the application you used to install them uninstall them too?
[10:18] <|Dylan|> basse: nope, i used the kde font installer and the kde font manager cant list things by *date*
[10:18] <|Dylan|> basse: if it could id probably be set :-/
[10:18] <intelikey> so rm the fonts manually with something like  rm /usr/share/fonts -R     and run that reinstall command.      just an example.
[10:18] <basse> |Dylan|: uuh.. well did you check the font dir?  /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[10:18] <Jucato> |Dylan|: actually, it can
 basse: nope, i used the kde font installer and the kde font manager cant list things by *date*
[10:19] <|Dylan|> i wasnt able to sort by date or list by date
[10:19] <|Dylan|> ill check a few things again
[10:19] <Jucato> |Dylan|: right-click in the list and select Sorting -> By Date
[10:19] <|Dylan|> if i were to delete a font in console, what would i have to do to update the system indexes of fonts, etc?  what command might i run?
[10:19] <dranas> hey is cedega worth it?
[10:19] <stdin> |Dylan|: right click -> sorting -> by date
[10:20] <intelikey> dranas to get to play a game.  of course not.
[10:20] <dranas> seriously?
[10:20] <|Dylan|> dranas: id say no, i have it and dont use it much, doesnt work with many new games.  i like the prospect of cedega, but i dont know that its ready, and its quite closed source.
[10:20] <intelikey> dranas well yeah.  but that's just openion.
[10:20] <dranas> o, i use it for my dvd decrypting software, not cedege but wine
[10:20] <|Dylan|> dranas: then again, its $5 a month.
[10:21] <intelikey> oh didn't happen.
[10:21] <dranas> 5 bucks a month....ick
[10:22] <dranas> BLAH
[10:22] <grul> speaking of fonts, is there any way to use other fonts than the ones in the list for konsole? i've installed a font that i like and it works in openoffice etc, but konsole only shows about 5 fonts
[10:22] <|Dylan|> stdin: rofl....  the problem was that i didnt see any changes when sorting by date, since the fonts were added alphabetically--only the last hundred or so entries had changed.  im a doofus, thankyouverymuch ^.^
[10:22] <grul> it's even a fixed width font...
[10:23] <intelikey> konsole only shows 5 ?
[10:23] <grul> well, 8
[10:23] <stdin> |Dylan|: umm, you should probably thank Jucato too, before he feels ignored
[10:23] <Jucato> O.o
[10:23] <intelikey> last time i looked it was like 35
[10:23] <|Dylan|> thank you EVERYONE
[10:23] <|Dylan|> :)
[10:23] <grul> in settings -> font -> select
[10:23] <dranas> how about cross over compared to wine?
[10:23] <basse> |Dylan|: where do you need that many fonts anyway? sounds like uncontrollable mess that will explode and font dialog
[10:24] <darkrift411> damn
[10:24] <dranas> oo i installed a game, maybe, just maybe the magical linux penguins will grant me a wish
[10:24] <Jucato> grul: I think terminals are really just supposed to use fixed-width types
[10:24] <darkrift411> no luck finding a better file manager :(
[10:24] <darkrift411> most seems to be pretty crappy
[10:24] <|Dylan|> basse: it was a bad idea, yes.  i didnt have a very good idea of just how ridiculous that number was, but i also wanted a more straightforward gallery of fonts for gimp than the website provided
[10:24] <grul> Jucato, yeah i know, but the font i installed (monaco) is a fixed width font...
[10:24] <grul> so is there any way i can tell konsole that this font is ok? :p
[10:24] <|Dylan|> "Do you really want to delete these 3759 fonts?"
[10:25] <basse> :)
[10:25] <|Dylan|> this could take a while.  :-P
[10:25] <intelikey> grul i havent played with konsole  but rxvt/xterm you can specify the font in  ~/.xresources
[10:25] <intelikey> might help... idk
[10:25] <grul> ah hm
[10:26] <grul> i don't even have that file
[10:26] <stdin> grul: and "man consolechars"
[10:26] <|Dylan|> if i may ask, what irc clients do you guys use?  im not sure what client to use, im on kvirc but im not that happy with it
[10:26] <darkrift411> mirc and xchat
[10:26] <dranas> ahhh hahaha
[10:26] <intelikey> i didn't either.  but it's a standard config file.
[10:26] <stdin> konversation FTW
[10:26] <darkrift411> mirc for the scripts for those who are wondering why
[10:26] <grul> i'm using irssi
[10:26] <|Dylan|> stdin: does konversation allow for audio notifications of new messages, etc?
[10:27] <dranas> coool
[10:27] <|Dylan|> stdin: or any other new message notification, like flashing kicker icons?
[10:27] <stdin> |Dylan|: yeah, when ever someone says my name i hear a cough :p
[10:27] <grul> stdin, have you used that program?
[10:27] <|Dylan|> stdin: rofl seriously?
[10:27] <stdin> |Dylan|: and a flashing kickker icon too
[10:27] <grul> consolechars i mean
[10:27] <intelikey> grul also there is a ~/.kde/something/konsole  or konsolerc   or something   that might have the font listed   one could just adjust it...
[10:27] <stdin> |Dylan|: yes :p
[10:27] <underdog5004> stdin, stdin, stdin
[10:27] <stdin> grul: no, not persionally
[10:27] <underdog5004> cough cough cough?
[10:27] <Jucato> |Dylan|: yes and yes
[10:27] <|Dylan|> stdin: shweet!  time for a change-up, methinks.
[10:28] <Jucato> |Dylan|: Settings -> Configure Notifications
[10:28] <stdin> aah, my computer sounds like it's got a cold
[10:28] <stdin> :p
[10:29] <grul> i'm going find / -name "*konsole*"
[10:29] <intelikey> 32 minutes and i can scat.
[10:29] <underdog5004> Jucato, Hey! long time no see
[10:29] <Jucato> hi underdog5004
[10:29] <intelikey> grul not /  ~/
[10:29] <grul> bah, i'm the only user of this workstation anyway
[10:30] <stdin> searching / will take a while
[10:30] <intelikey> yeah but searching /dev/  and  /proc   is ludicrise
[10:30] <grul> :o
[10:30] <stdin> and give you quite a few "permission denied" errors
[10:30] <intelikey> yeah
[10:31] <grul> all done
[10:31] <grul> heh
[10:31] <dranas> yay i found a game that works
[10:31] <intelikey> if you want all listings   find /etc/ /usr/ /var/ /home/ -iname *konsole*
[10:31] <dranas> wormux
[10:31] <dranas> so cool
[10:31] <dranas> ty ppls good night ebverybody
[10:32] <grul> anyway, i found: /home/grul/.kde/share/config/konsolerc in case anyone wanted to know
[10:32] <stdin> may as well leave out /var/ too
[10:32] <intelikey> seeeeeeee
[10:32] <intelikey> si
[10:32] <grul> :)
[10:32] <intelikey> stdin but there are some things in /var/lib that one wouldn't expect
[10:33] <grul> ok, so I changed the default font to Monaco, and it worked :p now let's just hope this doesn't mess things up
[10:33] <grul> :)
[10:34] <intelikey> then i'll say "you're welcome" before i leave
[10:34] <grul> heh, thanks
[10:34] <intelikey> you're welcome
[10:34] <intelikey> :)
[10:34] <grul> :)
[10:35] <intelikey> but always seems to read from stdout and stderr
[10:36] <|Dylan|> dylan wishes he knew enough about irc to be special like you guys
[10:36] <stdin> hmm, bad pun :p
[10:36] <underdog5004> stdin, oh oh, me too!
[10:36] <intelikey> /me something |Dylan|
[10:36] <|Dylan|> mmk thx
[10:36] <|Dylan|> wow, /you actually works a well.
[10:37] <|Dylan|> oh, nm.
[10:37] <intelikey> not in bx it doesn't
[10:37] <c1|freaky> its 10:37am here
[10:37] <c1|freaky> ;p
[10:37] <|Dylan|> 137am here
[10:37] <intelikey> epimeth why only 2 ?
[10:38] <underdog5004> stdin, 1:30 am here
[10:38] <|Dylan|> you guys are in europe, i take it?
[10:38] <intelikey> there are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binarry and those that dont.
[10:38] <epimeth> intelikey: 11001101011001 10101111100101 1010111111010100110100010010010101
[10:38] <epimeth> lololol
[10:38] <underdog5004> lol
[10:38] <epimeth> |Dylan|: israel
[10:39] <|Dylan|> because you get it or you dont, and if you dont, we laugh at you.
[10:39] <|Dylan|> its binary.
[10:39] <underdog5004> there are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get binary and those who don't
[10:39] <c1|freaky> 10 ? 2+0 :D = 2 :D
[10:39] <underdog5004> devavu?
[10:39] <underdog5004> deja vu?
[10:39] <grul> there are 2 kinds of people in the world. those who get hexadecimal and those who don't
[10:40] <c1|freaky> yeaaa
[10:40] <c1|freaky> :D
[10:40] <grul> :P
[10:40] <|Dylan|> lol.
[10:40] <underdog5004> grul, worst hex joke evar!
[10:40] <intelikey> gurl how many ?
[10:40] <grul> underdog5004, sorry :D
[10:40] <darkrift411> GRRRRR
[10:40] <epimeth> there are 10 types of people in this world. those who understand trinary, those who don't, and those who just don't care ?
[10:41] <underdog5004> ahahahahahaha
[10:41] <darkrift411> ive been searchign all day for a friggen vista looking kicker backround with no luck
[10:41] <epimeth> darkrift411: microsoft.com
[10:41] <epimeth> :-p
[10:41] <underdog5004> darkrift411, why use something from vista?
[10:41] <darkrift411> lol
[10:41] <darkrift411> because i hate the current look, and i like the 3d look of the vista one
[10:41] <underdog5004> ah...
[10:42] <epimeth> darkrift411: kde-look.org has some nice ones
[10:42] <darkrift411> what category are they under?
[10:42] <darkrift411> i found a nice black one before
[10:42] <darkrift411> but cant find it now
[10:42] <underdog5004> I never understood why you'd want your machine to look like windows...aka linspire-ish things
[10:42] <darkrift411> i never understood why everyone is soo against what my machine looks like
[10:42] <c1|freaky> there are 3 kind of people in the world. those who understand decimal, those who understand hex, and those who don't think about hex ;p
[10:43] <underdog5004> do what you like, it's just a personal preference
[10:43] <c1|freaky> or dont know about hex
[10:43] <epimeth> darkrift411: for the same reason that if you came here asking about the gnome kicker we'd yell at you :-)
[10:43] <underdog5004> to me, I prefer something that looks original, or at least not too much like anything else
[10:43] <darkrift411> i have a wife and otehr family that doesnt know linux
[10:43] <darkrift411> they know windows
[10:43] <epimeth> the best, tho, is that douglass adam's accidentaly made a number theory joke...
[10:43] <darkrift411> so compatibility is a thing i look for too
[10:44] <darkrift411> having a simillar look works
[10:44] <epimeth> 42 = 6x9
[10:44] <underdog5004> darkrift411, gotcha
[10:44] <|Dylan|> i have a sister who has vista, and it behooves me to be able to replicate every feature of vista to try to convert her, even though the goal is to be original.
[10:45] <underdog5004> darkrift411, I remember reading about some guy who setup ubuntu for his dad, installed beryl, a vista theme, and the dad didn't know it! He thought it was vista.
[10:45] <|Dylan|> the best way to make someone jealous is to do what they do better, not to do something else better.  so emulating vista is an important part of converting vista users, IMHO
[10:45] <darkrift411> thats what id like to do
[10:45] <darkrift411> not completely
[10:45] <darkrift411> i have the vista beryl theme
[10:45] <|Dylan|> darkrift411: youll want to switch to compiz/compcomm fairly soon
[10:45] <darkrift411> ive used windows since 3.0, so im very used to it
[10:45] <underdog5004> Compiz Fusion, now
[10:45] <darkrift411> i can manage in windows, but i still like the vista taskbar look
[10:45] <|Dylan|> underdog5004: i dont think fusion won
[10:45] <darkrift411> manage in linux*
[10:46] <crdlb> |Dylan|, it did
[10:46] <epimeth> underdog5004: isn't showing them a computer that doesn't lag more impressive?
[10:46] <|Dylan|> crdlb: whoa, hey there.
[10:46] <epimeth> underdog5004: scratch that... isn't showing them an *affordable* computer that doesn't lag more impressive?
[10:47] <underdog5004> meh, my computer cost about 300 dollars, runs beryl no lag
[10:47] <underdog5004> but I did oc my video card a little...
[10:47] <|Dylan|> mine was 1,500 2.5 years ago...^.^  :)
[10:48] <underdog5004> epimeth, I don't understand where you're coming from.
[10:48] <underdog5004> ^.^ :)
[10:48] <underdog5004> will wonders never cease
[10:48] <twosouls82> tired too :)
[10:49] <intelikey> epimeth 13145 11237 11799839893 ???????????????
[10:49] <epimeth> underdog5004: what?
[10:49] <Jucato> huh? what?
[10:49] <underdog5004> huh?
[10:49] <epimeth> intelikey: did you just convert what I wrote before to decimal?
[10:49] <underdog5004> ummm, what's happening?
[10:49] <darkrift411> i wish i could force apps to the tray
[10:49] <intelikey> epimeth yeah
[10:50] <Jucato> darkrift411: you can
[10:50] <epimeth> [11:48]  <underdog5004> epimeth, I don't understand where you're coming from.
[10:50] <intelikey> well actually used a script
[10:50] <epimeth> intelikey: loser :-p
[10:50] <underdog5004> epimeth, oh, that
[10:50] <epimeth> intelikey: translate to hex, it'll be quicker :-)
[10:51] <underdog5004> I meant that I didn't understand how my comments spurred the lag/price comment...but I'm pretty tired...
[10:51] <intelikey> 2BE5_16 3359_16 2BF534495_16
[10:53] <epimeth> underdog5004: whups.... I thought you said what Dylan said about converting windows users....
[10:53] <underdog5004> lol, now who is tired?
[10:53] <epimeth> cheers intelikey... I'll cherish this forever
[10:53] <epimeth> go math!
[10:53] <intelikey> lol
[10:54] <intelikey> yeah right...
[10:54] <intelikey> well delete is cheep   and /dev/null is never full
[10:54] <intelikey> :)
[10:55] <intelikey> posted at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37572  so i don't lose it,
[10:56] <intelikey> i do actually use that script more than one would think.
[10:56] <kraut> moin
[10:56] <intelikey> kraut
[10:56] <epimeth> ack! its a kraut!
[10:56] <kraut> indeed
[10:56] <kraut> the crowd! :)
[10:57] <Tomasu> I'm having a slight issue with my wifi card. im trying to get it to setup in ap mode, but it won't respect the channel I set. after ifup is run, it says its in channel 1, even though I set channel 11, and nothing will connect.
[10:57] <Tomasu> calling iwconfig afterwards makes it all work.
[10:58] <stdin> intelikey: why do you always read me?
[10:58] <stdin> (line 11)
[10:58] <intelikey> i never read you.  i always read stdout and stderr
[10:59] <stdin> "# if nothing is specified on the command line then we read stdin" <-- there, you read me there
[10:59] <epimeth> stdin: its not *always* its just when we don't have a choice
[11:00] <intelikey> epimeth ^5     lol
[11:00] <intelikey> stdin he nailed you with that one.
[11:00] <intelikey> :)
[11:03] <intelikey> well i see my time is gone.    and just when it gets interesting.
[11:07] <epimeth> well... its been swell but the swelling has gone down... back to lurking mode before the boss catches me wasting time :-)  I'll bbs tho!
[11:07] <underdog5004> a parrot bit me the other day.
[11:08] <stdin> !away Sleeping (or just not back yet)
[11:08] <stdin> damn away message..
[11:08] <underdog5004> I still have dents in my arm
[11:09] <stdin> underdog5004: did you bite it back?
[11:09] <underdog5004> no, it was in a pet store...the bird cost about 400 dollars...way out of my price range for an undersized chicken
[11:09] <intelikey> i go now.  gooday !
[11:09] <underdog5004> bye
[11:10] <stdin> later intelikey
[11:12] <xst> How do I make thunderbird use firefox as default browser instead of konqueror? (I have set firefox up as default browser in the KDE settings, but this is pretty much ignored)?
[11:15] <DexterF> hi
[11:15] <DexterF> how do I rescan the scsi-bus?
[11:15] <DexterF> !scsi
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[11:15] <stdin> xst: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:16] <wizkoder> anybody here that know krusader? How can I prevent my sftp connection from closing after a few seconds?
[11:16] <xst> stdin: But wouldn't this change the default browser system wide and not only for my user?
[11:17] <stdin> xst: there's no other way to get it to do it
[11:18] <xst> stdin: OK. How silly. Someone should really file a bug on this. :-)
[11:18] <llutz> DexterF: install package "scsiadd"
[11:19] <stdin> xst: it's because gtk apps don't read kde's settings and vice-versa, so it uses the most generic way by running "x-www-browser"
[11:19] <DexterF> llutz: thanks
[11:20] <llutz> xst you can set network-protocol handler for thunderbird in user.prefs, just use google for syntax
[11:23] <DexterF> what mailing list should I subscribe to for matters liek NFS issues?
[11:25] <sivaji> hi
[11:25] <xst> stdin, llutz: ok, thanks
[11:43] <Gerrit> suspend-to-ram has a cool effect to system uptime :)
[11:43] <DexterF> !bugs
[11:43] <_RadioHead> anyone any antivirus i can install and use on kubuntu
[11:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:44] <_RadioHead> ?
[11:44] <DexterF> _RadioHead: think there's debs of avira's personal edition. what for anyway?
[11:44] <_RadioHead> i need toi scan some damn heya DexterF dude
[11:44] <_RadioHead> DexterF: apt-get install avira? right
[11:44] <DexterF> nah
[11:45] <DexterF> avira is so third party, guess you need to install manually
[11:45] <_RadioHead> im not familiar with antiviruses :)
[11:45] <_RadioHead> let me search
[11:46] <DexterF> www.avira.com. not even a deb, tarball... well.
[11:47] <underdog5004> !av
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <underdog5004> !antivirus
[11:47] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:49] <mat1980> how to change default login manager?
[11:51] <underdog5004> mat1980, do you mean the look, or the actual manager?
[11:56] <vista> how do i enable the fade out option in amarok ?
[11:57] <vista> dont knw whats wrong but when i press quit amarok the song stops immediately but i want that amarok fade out effect can anyone help ?
[11:58] <mat1980> underdog5004: I mean the actual manager. Resolved with dpkg-reconfigure kdm, as suggested from another user. Thanks however.
[11:58] <underdog5004> np
[12:25] <JuJuBee> What is the default account (admin?)  that gets set up when you install postgresql ?
[12:25] <ManiDhillon> !wine
[12:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:25] <xst> I am using kubuntu on a laptop but when I try to configure the external monitor from "System Settings -> Monitor & Display" the X-server won't restart. Also, I can see in xorg.conf, that only a 640z480 resolution is added for the monitor. Quite strange. What should I do in order to configure my external monitor?
[12:27] <ManiDhillon> !beryl
[12:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:27] <grul> !bananas
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bananas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <grul> !myself
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <grul> hee hee
[12:27] <grul> !mouse
[12:27] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:29] <ManiDhillon> !opera
[12:29] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:30] <jorik808> anyone knows a program that will allow me to generate and print "calender sheets" ? like, one A4 per month ? (landscaped)
[12:45] <ManiDhillon> !updating kde
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updating kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <ManiDhillon> !kde
[12:45] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:45] <pawitp> ManiDhillon: Use the update manager
[12:46] <ManiDhillon> pawitp Which flavour are you using? KDE Or GNOME?
[12:47] <JuJuBee> fwiw I used to use  GNOME but switched to  KDE and never looked back.
[12:48] <ManiDhillon> JuJuBee Good i too use KDE!
[12:49] <grul> hint: we're in #kubuntu
[12:49] <grul> most people here use kde, i suppose
[12:49] <JuJuBee> Of coures the channel name does start with a K ;)
[12:51] <JuJuBee> I  have a rather lengthy question.  I  installed feisty about a month or so ago and nis was working fine.  Druing this tiime, I have been installing software and applying the updates.   Sometime since I installed it initially, nis broke.  What is the best way to find out  what broke nis?
[12:54] <JuJuBee> Ah well, guess I will go back to trial and error...
[12:54] <JuJuBee> TTFN
[01:01] <nicola> hello
[01:02] <gigabytes> how can I tell Amarok to use as the collection a remote directory on a samba share?
[01:10] <underdog5004> my, it _is_ lively in here!
[01:15] <XVampireX> underdog5004: Does it have to?
[01:15] <XVampireX> This is actually a support channel more than anything, so saying that it is lively depends on the people who ask questions :D
[01:16] <underdog5004> true
[01:16] <underdog5004> darn you guys, why can't you not figure out a feature of linux right now?!?
[01:18] <fusiogen> kj
[01:24] <sandhya> hello. how do i get linux to check all my partitions for errors?
[01:25] <sandhya> I have tried running "shutdown -rF now" to run "fsck" upon reboot.. but that does not seem to be working.
[01:29] <underdog5004> sandhya, I know it's not the right way, but you could boot with a livecd (something light, like DSL), then fsck your partitions
[01:30] <sandhya> underdog5004: thanks. I'd like to find the right way to do this though.
[01:30] <sandhya> it seems very odd.
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> sandhya: whats the problem?
[01:31] <underdog5004> have you read the man pages for fsck? Maybe when you reboot, hit ESC and boot into "recovery mode". You may be able to do it from there
[01:32] <TheGateKeeper> is the version of cups in kubuntu 6.06 version 1.2.2?
[01:32] <sandhya> nosrednaekim: My hard drive hangs when I access a certain file.
[01:33] <sandhya> nosrednaekim: and I'm trying to see if fsck can detect it and perhaps mark a bad sector or something.
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> sandhya: ah. ok
[01:34] <sandhya> underdog5004: I'm actually just trying to do it manually as it isn't /
[01:34] <sandhya> (now)
[01:35] <sandhya> fsck reports it as being clean :/
[01:35] <sandhya> Can I force it to recheck everything?
[01:39] <atrophia> ragazzi
[01:40] <atrophia> ki ha mica sto file?
[01:40] <atrophia> ePlus2k.usb
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> TheGateKeeper: 1.2.0
[01:45] <TheGateKeeper> nosrednaekim: thanx
[01:48] <TheGateKeeper> damn portage jumps from cups-1.1.23-r8 to cups-1.2.6
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> portage?
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> Gentoo?
[01:49] <TheGateKeeper> yep I have ipp working on kubuntu & pclinuxos but NOT gentoo, it's being a real 'git' :-(
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> you're in the wrong channel Buddy.
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[01:52] <TheGateKeeper> nosrednaekim: well not for the piece of info you just gave me :/
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> well yeah,
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> true :)
[01:54] <underdog5004> I didn't like gentoo too much...too much time spent compiling
[01:55] <underdog5004> just my two cents
[01:58] <underdog5004> how can I get scp to copy directories?
[01:58] <zarilion> Whats the command to replace the xorg.conf file with one of the backup ones ? from command line
[01:58] <underdog5004> zarilion, mv old.xorg.conf xorg.conf
[01:58] <zarilion> ty
[01:58] <underdog5004> zarilion, actually, h/o
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> underdog5004: I think you have to put  a -R to be recursive
[01:59] <underdog5004> zarilion, mv /path/to/old/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:59] <underdog5004> nosrednaekim, thanks
[01:59] <voltaire> underdog: scp -r src dest
[01:59] <voltaire> underdog: -r must be first param
[01:59] <underdog5004> nosrednaekim, close, it had to be a lower-case r
[02:00] <underdog5004> thanks so much
[02:01] <zarilion> underdog5004: i have to rename the xorg.conf.back file.
[02:01] <underdog5004> zarilion, I know, but to do that, it's easier to just "move" the file from the current location to the /etc/X11/ location with the filename xorg.conf
[02:01] <underdog5004> I don't know that there is a rename function...
[02:02] <zarilion> all of them is in the /etc/X11/ folder ..
[02:03] <underdog5004> zarilion, that's ok
[02:03] <_4strO> !skype
[02:03] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> underdog5004: ah.. sorry
[02:03] <underdog5004> you're moving it to the same folder that it's in, but specifying a different file name
[02:03] <underdog5004> nosrednaekim, np
[02:04] <underdog5004> you pointed me in the right direction
[02:04] <underdog5004> half a gig of daft punk moved across...I'm happy
[02:05] <underdog5004> one more time
[02:05] <underdog5004> zarilion, you alright?
[02:06] <plontaj> hello
[02:06] <underdog5004> plontaj, how can I help you?
[02:06] <plontaj> :D I wat to play soldat
[02:06] <underdog5004> what's that?
[02:06] <zarilion> underdog5004: ya
[02:06] <plontaj> windows game
[02:06] <underdog5004> !wine
[02:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:07] <plontaj> and I install wine and configure
[02:07] <plontaj> but soldat need Directx and game is slow
[02:07] <underdog5004> bummer...you may want to dual-boot windows
[02:07] <underdog5004> and ubuntu
[02:07] <zarilion> underdog5004: but i still dont know how i replace it, or rename the xorg.conf.bak to xorg.conf
[02:08] <plontaj> thx bye
[02:08] <underdog5004> zarilion, type the following in: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <_4strO> !grub
[02:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:09] <zarilion> underdog5004: done
[02:09] <underdog5004> now restart your xserver by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This will shutdown any graphical programs you have up. Then log back in.
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !gogle
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gogle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !google
[02:10] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[02:10] <underdog5004> yay, my rdiff-backup finally finished!
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !google ubuntu
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> they really ought to have that... and imbedded google search
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[02:10] <zarilion> underdog5004: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace didnt do anything :P
[02:10] <underdog5004> nosrednaekim, what are you looking for?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> underdog5004: nothing.
[02:11] <underdog5004> zarilion, ok, log out, then in the menu next to the login fields, you can restart the xserver. If you can't find that, just reboot
[02:11] <underdog5004> nosrednaekim, oh
[02:12] <plontaj> and one question
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> yeah?
[02:12] <plontaj> alcoho have .cue what program for linux is compatibile for cue?
[02:13] <underdog5004> !k3b
[02:13] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:13] <zarilion> underdog5004: hmm. thought you knew. the grafical interface is down.. im running irssi on black screen :P xserver would not reboot
[02:13] <underdog5004> ahahahaha, my bad, zarilion
[02:13] <plontaj> ok i tire
[02:13] <underdog5004> if you want, you can just reconfigure your xserver
[02:13] <underdog5004> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:14] <zarilion> yeah.. did that before and it worked good :) think ill do that
[02:14] <zarilion> thank you for your help
[02:14] <underdog5004> alrighty, I'll be here for the next couple of hours
[02:14] <underdog5004> np
[02:14] <underdog5004> ok, nvm, gonna go watch a movie w/ my gf instead
[02:25] <KomiaPoika> whats package to install to have GLIB 1.2.3 or higher?
[02:26] <ardchoille> !info glib
[02:26] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:26] <ardchoille> !info glibc
[02:26] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:26] <fnordperfect> hi! I'm using Kubuntu Feisty. My problem is, installing fonts on per-user basis (in ~/.fonts) does not appear to work. they don't show up in fonts:/ nor in the applications.
[02:26] <fnordperfect> but xlsfonts lists them
[02:27] <jorik808> i have a HUGE amount data which i would like to (regularly, automatically) mirror to a second hard drive, is there any software that does this ?
[02:27] <KomiaPoika> apt-get install glibc2*
[02:27] <ardchoille> jorik808: rsync
[02:27] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: umm.... try the font installing application
[02:28] <neonlinux> jorik808: rsync
[02:28] <naseerhaider> hi
[02:29] <jorik808> ardchoille: i thought about that, but it looks so complicated i thought it was overkill and a simpler solution existed. guess not :-)
[02:29] <ardchoille> jorik808: I don't think rsync could be considered overkll in any situation really.
[02:29] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: oukay.. and which would be the "font installing application"? the kcontrol module?
[02:29] <KomiaPoika> i'm trying to compile gftp with ssl support, but i get: configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher
[02:29] <neonlinux> set up a test directory first and try 'rsync -avz /directory/directory /destination/directory'
[02:30] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: sry.. wasnt specific.. yeah.. thats the one
[02:30] <ardchoille> I think this was directed to you: < KomiaPoika> apt-get install glibc2*
[02:30] <KomiaPoika> i wrote that myself
[02:30] <KomiaPoika> it installs some lib
[02:30] <KomiaPoika> but configure still doesnt see it
[02:30] <jorik808> neonlinux: ok thx, well i guess it's about time to learn to work with rsync anyways
[02:30] <ardchoille> !info glibc2
[02:30] <ubotu> Package glibc2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:31] <neonlinux> jorik808: i use it at work to back up 260 gig of data from 1 linux server to another :)
[02:31] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: ok, done it. I removed the files from ~/.fonts and installed them again with kcontrol. they're in ~/.fonts but not shown in the list in the kcontrol module, and not shown in fonts:/
[02:31] <KomiaPoika> okay, this seems to help: apt-get install libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev
[02:32] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: try as root (in a terminal type kdesu kcontrol)
[02:32] <KomiaPoika> now i get this build error: gftp-2.0.18/src/text/gftp-text.c:188: undefined reference to `g_locale_from_utf8'  what can i install?
[02:33] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: well, though I could do that, this somewhat contradicts the whole per-user-installed-fonts thing...
[02:34] <jorik808> neonlinux: just one more quick question: does rsync use any funky way of storing the files or is it just a "copy" (= can i use it to sync an ipod)
[02:34] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: umm.. sry.. forgot about that bit lol..
[02:35] <neonlinux> jorik808: that comand does a copy (and if the file exists.. skips it. and if the file has changed since last time it iverwrites the older one (thats the way it appears to work at work))
[02:35] <jorik808> YAY ! :) omigod i LOVE linux
[02:35] <neonlinux> jorik808: just test that it does that before trying it on anything important
[02:36] <jorik808> good idea
[02:36] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: sry.. out of ideas.. havent messed around with fonts that much
[02:36] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: ok, thanks anyway. it's not that important atm, but I'm wondering cause it used to work flawlessly in the past..
[02:37] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: ill have a look around
[02:38] <KomiaPoika> how can i install gftp with ssl support
[02:38] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: have you tried restarting x after installation of fonts?
[02:39] <ardchoille> KomiaPoika: I thought gftp had ssl support already
[02:41] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: yes, it has been restarted several times since I first tried it
[02:41] <ardchoille> KomiaPoika: kftpgrabber has ssl support: TLS/SSL support
[02:41] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: rats.. there goes that idea...
[02:41] <ardchoille> KomiaPoika: here's a partial feature list for kftpgrabber: http://www.kftp.org/misc/description
[02:42] <ardchoille> !info kftpgrabber
[02:42] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1109 kB, installed size 3136 kB
[02:43] <jorik808> neonlinux: okay everything works, gonna put it in a crontab and be done with it :D thx again
[02:43] <neonlinux> jorik808: no worries.. only found that utility the other day :)
[02:44] <jorik808> :p
[02:48] <KomiaPoika> ardchoille: it does when it builds, but it wont build
[02:48] <ardchoille> KomiaPoika: Well, if you don't mind using a kde app for ftp, there's always kftpgrabber and it's in the repos.
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> ardchoille: i installed gftp packages from seveas sourcelist
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> and it works
[02:49] <KomiaPoika> i'll try kftpgrabber
[02:49] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: cant find anything atm.. might be worth while posting on the forum
[02:49] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. Yeah, the seveas repo is nice.
[02:50] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: yea, me neither. ok, thank you very much for trying!
[02:51] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: just curious.. in konqueror if you type fonts:/user do you see your fonts?
[02:53] <AaronCampbell> Does anyone have time to help me get my networking working again?
[02:53] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: umh.. fonts:/user does not work. my system is german, so the uri here is fonts:/Persnlich .. (fonts:/Personal is also accepted). but: no, it doesn't show anything.
[02:54] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: german.. cool :) ... ummm that should show any user fonts installed..
[02:55] <AaronCampbell> I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working
[02:56] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: ok.. in fonts:/personal try dumping your fonts that you want
[02:56] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: it should, yes. been there, done that. Didn't work. ~/.fonts is completely ignored. fonts:/System does work, it even shows thumbnails previews
[02:57] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: only thing i can think is its a kde config problem
[03:05] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: I tried to put some other TrueType fonts in fonts:/Personal (umh.. it were TrueType fonts, did I mention that?). And .. while some won't work, other do
[03:05] <fnordperfect> .. others do work
[03:05] <sebastian_> were is KDM Theme Manager ?
[03:06] <neonlinux> fnordperfect: i guess i assumed that.. but.. if some work and some dont.. then i wonder what the fonts that dont work have
[03:06] <dwidmann> sebastian_: systemsettings or kcontrol
[03:06] <dwidmann> sebastian_: in kcontrol it's system administration -> login manager
[03:07] <sagem> hi all i want create my own live cd based on ubuntu feisty, where i can find some doc ?
[03:07] <dwidmann> looks to be in pretty much the same place in systemsettings too, things lining up for a change, nice
[03:09] <migs> hi! would anybody know how  can i load undernet?
[03:09] <sagem> no idea??
 hi! would anybody know how  can i load undernet?
[03:10] <fnordperfect> neonlinux: I dunno. they are somehow broken! I didn't notice this, since konqueror shows a valid thumbnail preview when I browse to their original location in the filesystem.. but: kfontview says "ERROR: Could not determine font's name (11 pixels)"
[03:10] <dwidmann> sebastian_: come to think of it, that's only the background and finer details, might have to do the rest manually
[03:11] <^peter^_> migs it depends - what client sre you using?
[03:11] <busfahrer> migs: I don't know which client you're using, but on most this should do: type /server irc.undernet.org
[03:11] <migs> thanks!
[03:11] <busfahrer> (depending on client, be prepared to get disconnected from Freenode)
[03:12] <xst> Has anyone in here succeeded in attaching an external monitor to a laptop and setting up a dual-head in System Settings?
[03:12] <xst> X refuses to restart when I configure my second monitor to be "Generic"
[03:17] <AaronCampbell> Does anyone have time to help me get my networking working again? I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working again
[03:17] <migs> ur the best guys !
[03:20] <AaronCampbell> It appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP
[03:22] <AaronCampbell> And worse of all, it was working fine a few days ago
[03:22] <AaronCampbell> s/worse/worst
[03:25] <AaronCampbell> Must be too early?
[03:34] <MikeMike> :)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> Morning all :)
[03:40] <lordi> .
[03:41] <MikeMike> what  port  does dalnet use?
[03:42] <chx> hi. I get Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Layout when trying to start Azureus. Googled without not much luck.
[03:43] <Arsanerit> Hi, I can print from firefox but not from acrobat. Firefox lets me select the printer by name (CUPS/prn): what commandline is equivalent to what firefox is doing when it's printing to CUPS/prn?
[03:44] <Arsanerit> Acrobat says: "lpq: prn: unknown printer". I can enter a command with "custom". What command can I enter so that it does the same as firefox?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> MikeMike, most irc servers use ports fromm 6667-7000
[03:47] <mat1980> Arsanerit: I guess the command should be lpr, not lpq
[03:51] <maddy> wie kann ich nice bei einem laufenden prozess anwenden (wenn berhaupt mglich)?
[03:51] <n8k99> !de
[03:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:54] <ubuntu__> how do I delete grub... when i try to install windows again on my machine, the grub errors... how do it del it_
[03:55] <mat1980> ubuntu__: if grub is on mbr, it will be replaced during windows install
[03:55] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, are you trying to dual boot windows and kubuntu ?
[03:56] <ubuntu__> no, I had kubuntu installed but I dont like it... want to del it, booted my win cd then installed everything, when the comp boots, I get grub error17 and nothing more
[03:59] <BluesKaj> sounds like windows wasn't installed since there's no mbr...anyway ubuntu__, that's quaestion to ask in the #windows channel
[03:59] <jaaroo> hello there. Does anyone have idea how I can cut off data beginning with particular STRING out of binary file? I've tried |sed '{ s/STRING.*// ; T ; q }' but it will print newline at the end of data :(
[04:05] <maddy> damn, was in the wrong channel, sorry guys and girls
[04:08] <mat1980> ubuntu__: this is not kubuntu related, however... if you have to reinstall windows, you have no problem because Windows will replace grub at install. otherwise boot with a windows cd and get a console, then give the command fdisk /fixmbr
[04:08] <TrueFX> hi guys
[04:08] <TrueFX> i ve got a problem
[04:09] <TrueFX> i cant make my system dual boot
[04:09] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:~# fdisk -l
[04:09] <TrueFX> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[04:09] <TrueFX> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[04:09] <TrueFX> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:09] <TrueFX>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:09] <TrueFX> /dev/sda1   *           1        3973    31913091    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:09] <TrueFX> /dev/sda2            3974       27839   191703645    5  Extended
[04:09] <Jucato> !paste | TrueFX
[04:09] <ubotu> TrueFX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <TrueFX> /dev/sda3           27840       30401    20579265   83  Linux
[04:09] <gnomefreak> TrueFX: use pastebin
[04:09] <TrueFX> /dev/sda5            3974       27839   191703612+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:09] <TrueFX> Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[04:09] <Jucato> bye...
[04:10] <gnomefreak> can you hint him towards pastebin if im not looking?
[04:10] <Jucato> sure. I already tried to ^^^
[04:10] <gnomefreak> i know :) his buffer wouldnt let him stop im assuming
[04:11] <family> does anybody know how to fix this error in aptitude? E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[04:12] <mat1980> family: what is the output of uname -a
[04:12] <redheat> hi everyone
[04:12] <family> mat1980: Linux family-desktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:13] <redheat> sorry for bugging you all, but I do really appreciate some help
[04:13] <redheat> I installed the new version of ubuntu the gutsy gebawn
[04:13] <Jucato> O.o
[04:13] <Jucato> redheat: that's still in alpha
[04:14] <redheat> yeah, I know, but it is like ubuntu..
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> no help on that, you take your life in your own hands using an alpha release
[04:14] <redheat> I know Deisuke_Ido..
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so what's the help part?
[04:14] <redheat> I was about to ask about a certain issue..
[04:15] <anryko> how to start sshd service in kubuntu?
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you want #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <redheat> when I try to log off, it won't log out..
[04:15] <Jucato> redheat: it *is* ubuntu, but the next version, which is in alpha right now. you might want to direct your question(s) in #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <redheat> and if I tried to login using the root account it tells me the administrator can not login from the login screen
[04:15] <Jucato> yes you can't login as root graphically
[04:16] <redheat> I changed to root using the terminal..
[04:16] <mat1980> family: uhm... no idea. did you updated the repository info before install?
[04:16] <anryko> how to start sshd service in kubuntu?
[04:16] <anryko> how to start sshd service in kubuntu?
[04:16] <family> mat1980: yes
[04:16] <mat1980> anryko: as any other services... /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:17] <redheat> just bear with me please
[04:17] <redheat> I want to logout..
[04:17] <Jucato> redheat: please check with #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <redheat> to the command prompt how do I do that
[04:17] <Jucato> it might be a known bug already
[04:17] <anryko> there is bo sshd start script :)
[04:17] <anryko> no*
[04:17] <redheat> ok thank you so much and sorry for bothering..
[04:17] <Jucato> redheat: and you really shouldn't be using gutsy at this point in time
[04:18] <redheat> I'm beginning to think so, it was a bit irrational on my side to move fast to gutsy at this point of development
[04:18] <redheat> the problem is I love ubuntu a lot..
[04:18] <redheat> though I've been using it for less than a month..
[04:18] <mat1980> family: sorry... no idea at all.
[04:18] <Jucato> redheat: so why not just use the latest stable release instead?
[04:18] <redheat> and I have all three systems installed on one harddrve..
[04:19] <redheat> feistyfawn..it seems I will
[04:19] <Jucato> anryko: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:19] <family> here's the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26603/
[04:19] <redheat> thank you thank you so much for your help
[04:19] <anryko> nope... first i needed to install openssh-server :)
[04:19] <Jucato> anryko: and try not to spam the channel with the same question every second
[04:20] <epimeth> Jucato: what's up?
[04:20] <epimeth> Jucato: what's up?
[04:20] <epimeth> Jucato: what's up?
[04:20] <epimeth> :-p
[04:20] <Jucato> epimeth: stop that
[04:20] <epimeth> yessir
[04:20] <Jucato> other ops may not be as lenient as I am :P
[04:21] <epimeth> meh... you're the only one I've seen kick someone
[04:21] <family> ah, I got it :D
[04:21] <Jucato> you haven't kept your eyes open long enough :P
[04:21] <BluesKaj> we know yer a real tolerant dude , Jucato :)
[04:21] <Jucato> heh :P
[04:22] <zoohouse> I am running vncserverd (tightvnc server). Why is it that when I create a new session (ex: :1) and log into it, I don't have a k enviroment? How can I get :1 to run with the K enviroment?
[04:23] <aaron> $B$3$s$P$s$o(B
[04:23] <jim88> hi all ... I have a problem with my sound and videos being "jerky"  I am using kubuntu 7.04 ... is there something that I should update or is missing?
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> seishinbyou: was there a reason behind that?
[04:25] <seishinbyou> I'm running Feisty on a Stinkpad.  The wireless used to work, but just died recently.  I did a few apt-get upgrades/updates...could that be the problem; I just can't
[04:25] <seishinbyou> No reason
[04:25] <seishinbyou> I'm just a bit tired
[04:25] <seishinbyou> and it's late
[04:25] <jhutchins> zoohouse: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/1311 - also look up xdmcp.
[04:25] <zoohouse> jhutchins: thanks
[04:26] <jhutchins> seishinbyou: Yes, an update may have caused a problem with the driver for the wireless card.  You will need to find out what chipset it is, what drivers it's using, and what errors they're reporting in the logs.
[04:27] <okay> hi
[04:27] <seishinbyou> It's an orinoco_pci, built into some of the Thinkpad T30s
[04:27] <jhutchins> seishinbyou: You will need to be able to configure the card from the command line, error reporting in the GUI is inadequate.
[04:27] <seishinbyou> I used a script to connect before
[04:27] <seishinbyou> blacklisted a bunch of devices, enabled the orinoco_pci
[04:27] <seishinbyou> set the essid/wep password, and it used to work fine
[04:27] <BluesKaj> jim88, what app are you using to play the videos ?
[04:28] <seishinbyou> The blacklisting is because of a known bug with this particular model
[04:29] <jhutchins> seishinbyou: Suggest you start over from scratch, remove the blacklisting and try the native drivers.  Need chipset, not brand.
[04:29] <alesan> re
[04:29] <jim88> Blue: it is usually kaffeine
[04:29] <alesan> a friend of mine seem to have shutdown its laptop in a bad way
[04:30] <seishinbyou> I could, but it was working just fine that way...actually, only that way, until very recently
[04:30] <alesan> and now when he tries to open adept he gets the message that the pkg db is locked.
[04:30] <jim88> Blue: it is usually kaffeine ... however if I just play something in either Firefox or Opera it is the same
[04:30] <alesan> what to do to get it online :)
[04:30] <seishinbyou> "Intel 802.11b mini-PCI wireless adapter"
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm.  ark is p-ing me off a little :\
[04:31] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, does feisty still support wep ... thought wpa was the default encryption in wireless?
[04:31] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: just looking at ark's interface has the same effect for me. It just makes me want to scream.
[04:31] <rami> I need help
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine it still supports wep, and will until it's not available on consumer hardware
[04:32] <rami> how do i change the lan guage?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> rami: that's informative, thanks!
[04:32] <BluesKaj> jim88, the only thing i can think of is you need updated codecs
[04:32] <rami> i'm swedish and the language is english.....
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> dwidmann: while i have problems with the interface too, that's not my current beef with it
[04:32] <rami> so i want to change to swedish
[04:32] <BluesKaj> !se | rami
[04:33] <ubotu> rami: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:33] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: what's the current one?
[04:33] <rami> ok!
[04:33] <BluesKaj> hej do rami
[04:33] <jim88> Blue: thank you ... how do I do that?
[04:33] <Arwen> help! Ubuntu allows me to change file permissions on FAT partitions... something's broken!
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> using the konqueror right-click menu, i can only successfully extract a single file at a time.  if i attempt more than one, they both stall out and quit about halfway through :\
[04:33] <dwidmann> Arwen: that's really weird :O
[04:34] <BluesKaj> !codecs | jim88
[04:34] <ubotu> jim88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: run ark in konsole, maybe you'll get interesting messages if you're lucky.
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and with over 1300 files in all, batch extracting to subfolders based on their name would REALLY help
[04:35] <mat1980> Arwen: fat has no permissions... explain better.
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> mat
[04:35] <Arwen> mat1980, that's exactly why it's broken!
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that's his point.
[04:35] <Arwen> when I ran "chmod 755 /media/fat32/blah" ... it worked
[04:35] <mat1980> Arwen: how do you mount it?
[04:35] <Arwen> mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /media/fat32
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> dwidmann: one copy run from console doesn't crash out at all :\
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> it's the multiple copies i'm having problems with
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps i should just use unzip from the console :)
[04:37] <dwidmann> Arwen: what do you get when you ls -l /media/fat32/
[04:37] <Arwen> dwidmann, a listing of files?
[04:37] <dwidmann> Arwen: along with their permissions, timestamps, etc
[04:37] <Arwen> yes
[04:38] <Arwen> e.g. drwxrwxr-x  5 root plugdev   4096 2007-06-20 14:23 Nexuiz
[04:38] <dwidmann> Arwen: hahaha, that's wild, try chowning it and/or chmodding it and lsting again. Does it actually change them properly?
[04:39] <Arwen> yes
[04:39] <Arwen> the permissions change
[04:39] <Arwen> haven't tried chown though
[04:39] <Arwen> chown: changing ownership of `MY_NUMBER!.txt': Operation not permitted
[04:39] <Arwen> but chmod works..
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Ooh, appletinis :)
[04:40] <dwidmann> Arwen: sudo?
[04:40] <Arwen> dwidmann, that was with sudo
[04:40] <dwidmann> Arwen: then at least it's not letting you do that :P
[04:40] <Arwen> yeah, but allowing chmod worries me..
[04:42] <buxtehude> question...i suddently have a floating kubuntu icon on my desktop that is on top of anything running.  Any ideas on how i can make it go away?
[04:42] <Arwen> buxtehude, killall kicker
[04:42] <Arwen> try that
[04:43] <buxtehude> in terminal?
[04:43] <Arwen> yea
[04:43] <Arwen> w00t, GIMP + dualhead = fun :-)
[04:43] <dwidmann> dualhead?
[04:43] <rraajj> What's with Feisty not being able to play VCDs? At first I thought it was a Kaffeine issue, but then I tried VLC, Mplayer, and even Xine, none of them won't play VCDs.
[04:43] <Arwen> dwidmann, yes, dualhead
[04:43] <Arwen> rraajj, none of them won't play VCDs?
[04:43] <Arwen> doesn't that mean one of them does?
[04:44] <buxtehude> no work :(
[04:44] <dwidmann> Arwen: dualhead is what exactly (or vaguely, I'm not picky)
[04:44] <Arwen> buxtehude, logout and log back in?
[04:44] <rraajj> Arwen: w00t, probably tired after a hard day's work. :P
[04:44] <Arwen> dwidmann, using 2 displays
[04:44] <buxtehude> tried that
[04:44] <Arwen> hmm..
[04:44] <rraajj> *non of them would play VCDs.
[04:44] <buxtehude> it's pretty annoying too, hehe
[04:44] <dwidmann> Arwen: ah, I guess I'm using that then. non-xinerama though.
[04:44] <Arwen> rraajj, well, don't know what to say without more details. Any error logs?
[04:45] <Arwen> dwidmann, mergedxinerama here :-(
[04:45] <dwidmann> merged?
[04:45] <Arwen> yeah, mergedfb (ATI thing)
[04:45] <dwidmann> ah, never heard of it
[04:45] <buxtehude> no other ideas out there?
[04:45] <rraajj> Arwen: No error logs. They just, err, crash for some reason. Mplayer says it can't find the video_out option, Kaffeine gives me a backtrace that prints out things related to threads or something...
[04:45] <buxtehude> whoah...it just dissappeared on its own
[04:46] <buxtehude> after 3 days, hehe
[04:46] <Arwen> rraajj, what about vlc?
[04:46] <rraajj> VLC has no immediate backtraces (haven't checked it's raw logs, though), and Xine, well, Xine does nothing.
[04:46] <seishinbyou> not all VCDs.  Backstroke of the West is hilarious
[04:46] <Arwen> VCDs are encoded in MPEG-1 at absurdly low bitrates...
[04:46] <Arwen> that's even worse than DVDs
[04:46] <rraajj> seishinbyou: Backstroke of the West was in DVD, wasn't  it? :P
[04:47] <seishinbyou> Not the one I got
[04:47] <Arwen> o.O warez!
[04:47] <seishinbyou> Not quite, Chinese vendor
[04:47] <seishinbyou> which is to say...not much, actually
[04:47] <Arwen> same thing.
[04:47] <rraajj> Arwen: Well, it sucks if you have a pre-DVD-era collection. :(
[04:47] <Arwen> Chinese = warez
[04:48] <Arwen> rraajj, hehe, but yeah, pastebin some logs. I wanna see em.
[04:48] <rraajj> Found a similar bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72737
[04:49] <cacharodon> Coucou :) tout le monde
[04:49] <Alonea> do you still need to defragment hdds like in windows sometimes?
[04:50] <Arwen> Alonea, only if your fs usage is over 90%
[04:50] <BluesKaj> !fr | cacharodon serche tout le monde
[04:50] <ubotu> cacharodon serche tout le monde: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:50] <Arwen> and actually, you don't really need to defrag HDDs in Windows either
[04:50] <cacharodon> thank
[04:51] <dwidmann> Arwen: I don't know, it really kicks performance in the balls if you don't defrag in windows
[04:51] <Lacrymology> "nvidia module not found"
[04:51] <Arwen> dwidmann, I don't know what kinda Windows you're using, but NTFS doesn't fragment...
[04:51] <Arwen> or at least the volume doesn't
[04:52] <Lacrymology> Arwen, NTFS fragments like hell
[04:52] <Arwen> NTFS *volumes* don't fragment
[04:52] <Arwen> individual files can still fragment
[04:52] <Lacrymology> they do
[04:52] <Arwen> they don't.
[04:52] <Lacrymology> they have some random data in the end of the disk for no apparent reason
[04:52] <dwidmann> Either way, it still slows down after the files start getting really fragmentedish
[04:53] <Arwen> ...just like any filesystem
[04:53] <Arwen> my ext partition is at 13% or so fragmentation and I notice it in read speeds..
[04:53] <Lacrymology> that's why you need third party defrag tools in order to repartition the volume after some use
[04:53] <Lacrymology> anyways
[04:53] <cacharodon> Hy mate i have a problem for listen my mp3 record
[04:53] <cacharodon> can you help me plz
[04:53] <cacharodon> ?
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> they have mp3s on vinyl now?
[04:53] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | cacharodon
[04:53] <ubotu> cacharodon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sweet
[04:54] <Lacrymology> why isn't the nvidia module loaded? how do I?
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: how do you check fragmentation?
[04:54] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, fsck
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: of course ;)
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen!  Watch your language, there are children about!
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> >_>
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's going to be one of those days.
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> heh
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido:like me I suppose?
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> are you under 12 years old and unable to ride the good rollercoasters?
[04:55] <zoohouse> I just made another user, if I log into that other user, my root password isn't the same anymore... Why?
[04:55] <Arwen> Lacrymology, with modprobe
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: I can't ride good(bad) roller coasters... bu i'm over 12
[04:56] <Jucato> zoohouse: there is no *root* password. that's the reason
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> probably because that other user isn't in sudoers and can't perform administrative tasks
[04:56] <Jucato> !sudo | zoohouse
[04:56] <ubotu> zoohouse: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: its not actually the root password, but your own (via sudo) password
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: then no, not you :P
[04:56] <Arwen> !root | zoohouse
[04:56] <ubotu> zoohouse: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:56] <Arwen> great factoid :-P
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i like that one
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> need clever writers for the factoids.  spice things up a little
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: unless of course one does "sudo passwd root"
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> !windows
[04:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:57] <zoohouse> thanks
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i miss os/2
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> but not very much
[04:58] <Arwen> !botsnack
[04:58] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:58] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, uh... why do you miss OS/2?
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i miss it in a sorta passing way, kinda like new kids on the block.  it's a "whatever happened to them?" type of missing
[04:59] <Arwen> lol... OS/2 isn't dead... it's just called "Windows NT" now.
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't particularly care, but it's almost interesting enough to pay attention to
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: ecomstation
[04:59] <Arwen> hmm... I forgot to install my svn build of mplayer after I compiled it :-(
[04:59] <Arwen> DAMN IT
[05:00] <seishinbyou> $B"v"v"v(B USB wireless works  $B"v"v"v(B
[05:00] <zoohouse> If I install adoby flash non free from adept, works fine on my account. But on my new user account. Why?
[05:00] <seishinbyou> too bad about the built in orinoco, though
[05:00] <Arwen> zoohouse, explain how it doesn't work.
[05:00] <zoohouse> *But not on my new user account*
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: that's also like saying that my grandpa's now called frankenstein just because his brain was pilfered to be put in the monster.
[05:00] <Arwen> does it show in "about:plugins"?
[05:01] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, ......
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: you had a odd grandfather.
[05:01] <Arwen> cmon, don't troll.
[05:01] <zoohouse> Arwen: when I log into the other user and test for flash, firefox says i need to install flash.
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> alright, i'll be good
[05:01] <Arwen> zoohouse, open firefox in that user and go to the URL "about:config"
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> zoohouse: because it's in /home/user/.mozilla/plugins
[05:01] <zoohouse> Arwen: ok one sec
[05:01] <zoohouse> ok
[05:01] <zoohouse> let me see
[05:01] <zoohouse> brb
[05:02] <Lacrymology> !nvidia
[05:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> but follow arwen's advice first
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> frick...  i have to be at work in less than 2 hours :\
[05:03] <zoohouse> Arwen: ok im there
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> only bright side is i'
[05:03] <Arwen> zoohouse, is there a flash plugin listed anywhere?
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> only work until 7 tonight :)
[05:03] <zoohouse> let me fliter brb
[05:03] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: I'm lucky, I have 17 hours before I have to go back to that !#$@!@$^@!@#$%
[05:04] <zoohouse> Arwen: Can't find by flitering flash. When I do, it gives me 2 items which just happen to say flash but is not the plugin.
[05:05] <Arwen> zoohouse, huh...
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: installing the plugin merely copies the file to th user's .mozilla/plugins directory, right?
[05:05] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, but he said he installed with adept
[05:05] <Arwen> that means it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[05:06] <zoohouse> Arwen: let me check to see if it is there
[05:06] <zoohouse> just to make sure
[05:07] <zoohouse> Arwen, Daisuke_Ido: yea I see the plugins at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now it's weird.
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> and i can't explain it
[05:09] <zoohouse> Arwen: when I type config:plugins I see Shockwave Flash is enabled...
[05:09] <PhinnFort> why osm
[05:09] <PhinnFort> why isn't automake1.6 available anymore?
[05:09] <Arwen> zoohouse, but you can't play any flash?
[05:09] <zoohouse> Let me try again just to confirm on diff sites
[05:11] <zoohouse> :D
[05:11] <zoohouse> It's working
[05:12] <Arwen> moron. :-P
[05:12] <zoohouse> hahaha
[05:12] <zoohouse> Sorry for the wild goose chase
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: Arwen: guess what? /. loads with the wierd little greed title bars here in firefox..could it be a problem?
[05:13] <zoohouse> haha
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> lol
[05:14] <nosrednaekim> *green
[05:20] <dwidmann> I just discovered something nice last night. Kdesktop behaviour - mouse click actions - custom menus :)
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: oh sweet... where'e that?
[05:21] <frojnd> would anyone know why if I listen to music in amarok, and than pause it and open xmms and there start some other music, and than pause it in xmms and resume it in amarok now in amarok music won't that loud but silent... that just weird. Can someone tell me how to fix this
[05:22] <dwidmann> right click the desktop, configure desktop, behavior
[05:22] <PhinnFort> frojnd: stop using XMMS, it's obsolote
[05:22] <PhinnFort> *obsolete
[05:22] <PhinnFort> frojnd: AFAIK, Amarok has a XMMS-lookalike thingy
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: ok
[05:23] <dwidmann> settings -> configure amarok -> general -> show player window
[05:24] <frojnd> PhinnFort: looks like only one audio device can control music volume... I encrease the music in xmms and than resume it in amarok and in amarok was as it was before xmms was started
[05:25] <PhinnFort> frojnd: well, i don't think alsa supports software mixing, so if you don't have hardware mixing, you can only use one app at a time
[05:25] <PhinnFort> but then you can use software synthesizers, such as ARTS to use several apps to play music
[05:25] <Arwen> you could use a software mixer like arts or esd though
[05:26] <frojnd> PhinnFort: I allready have installed arts. WHere is this arts ?
[05:26] <PhinnFort> frojnd: I don't think XMMS supports ARTS
[05:26] <Arwen> ...
[05:26] <PhinnFort> frojnd: if you have KDE running, ARTS should be running already
[05:26] <PhinnFort> (but arts is crap, imho;))
[05:27] <dwidmann> only about 5 months til ARTS's EOL
[05:27] <Arwen> arts has been deprecated :-P
[05:27] <PhinnFort> I think arts will live on, it's just getting wrapped in by phono
[05:28] <PhinnFort> and phonon will have several backends, not just arts
[05:28] <family> how can I increase the size of the icons on the desktop?
[05:28] <PhinnFort> family: in system settings somewhere
[05:28] <PhinnFort> search for icons
[05:29] <family> ahah, I found it. Thanks.
[05:29] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[05:32] <dwidmann> "With KDE 4 aRts will be discontinued and a new API to be used by KDE programs is currently under construction." - multimedia.kde.org
[05:34] <dranas> hello
[05:34] <PhinnFort> dwidmann: old announcement, the API is Phonon, and it supports multiple backends, including ARTS, afaik
[05:35] <DaveTheAve> Hello, I really need help with a Virtual Machine Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right
[05:35] <dwidmann> hmm.
[05:36] <dranas> hey anyone know how to get to kdm setup so i can screw with my login theme?
[05:36] <PhinnFort> dranas: searched for KDm in system settings?
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> dranas: its in the theme manager in kcontrol
[05:37] <AaronCampbell> Does anyone have time to help me get my networking working again? I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working again
[05:37] <AaronCampbell> It appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP
[05:37] <AaronCampbell> And worst of all, it was working fine a few days ago
[05:38] <dranas> no the theme manager changes my desktop appearance
[05:38] <dranas> the splash screen is for the thing that shows stuff loading
[05:40] <DaveTheAve> Hello, I really need help with a Virtual Machine Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right
[05:42] <mat1980> I've not found a lancher to kcontrol in the menu. Someone know where it is? Or have I to add it everytime I install kubuntu?
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> mathias: system settings is the "new" control center.. if you want the old one, you have to add it
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> mat1980: Easier to just use alt-f2, kdesu kcontrol
[05:46] <mat1980> jhutchins_lt: thanks for the tip, but it's not for me. I know how to start kcontrol. It's for newbie. You know, they usually hate type commands.
[05:50] <jhutchins_lt> mat1980: Teach them, don't coddle them.
[05:51] <DaveTheAve> Hello, I really need help with a VMware Server..... it's just a static IP i'm trying to assign... it's not taking right
[05:51] <dranas> so yeah how exactly do i get to change my login acreen
[05:51] <dranas> screen
[05:52] <mat1980> jhutchins_lt: you're too optimistic :)
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> DaveTheAve: #vmware ?
[05:52] <DaveTheAve> No it's a ubuntu problem
[05:53] <DaveTheAve> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: NO such device
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> is this within vmware
[05:54] <DaveTheAve> Yes it is
[05:54] <DaveTheAve> but I have a flag0
[05:55] <DaveTheAve> eth0
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> DaveTheAve: hence my comment to go to #vmware..
[05:55] <Ind[y] > The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!
[05:55] <DaveTheAve> no it worked when i had it DHCP but not static with static it started giving me issues
[05:56] <dranas> then remove it?
[05:57] <Ind[y] > dranas: how?
[05:57] <dranas> like i think if you dont enter a password for it, itll go away and leave you alone
[05:57] <Arwen> !log
[05:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:07] <ScarFreewill> I need to setup a boot loader preferdly grub on my sdc (250gb) I don't have one on there... do I need to chroot? I'm confused?
[06:08] <Minataku> sudo grub-install /dev/sdc
[06:08] <Minataku> I believe
[06:08] <Minataku> !grub
[06:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <Minataku> Check out the howtos for detailed info
[06:08] <ScarFreewill> thanks
[06:09] <Minataku> np
[06:11] <david__> Can anyone help me install nVidia drivers so i can use beryl?
[06:12] <mat1980> !nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:12] <mat1980> !beryl
[06:12] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:17] <sebastian__> nas
[06:17] <ScarFreewill> I'm still a little confused If I do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdc" wouldn't it install grub to /dev/sda (the one I'm currnetly using) but just for sdc? (I don't want to screw my currnet setup up...)
[06:18] <Minataku> No, I don't think so
[06:18] <Minataku> Considering LiveCD installers have root on the CD-ROM
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: no, it won't
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: now what it will install to sdc is another thing..
[06:19] <ScarFreewill> Minataku: thats the prob I installed with alternative..
[06:19] <ScarFreewill> ok let me tell the tail..
[06:19] <Minataku> Still a LiveCD
[06:22] <ScarFreewill> i've got kubuntu its working (sda) my friend installed kubuntu (sdc) but he loaded his boot loader on his windows hdd... I want to make his linux hdd independant so that he doesn't need his windows hdd to fire up his grub on his linux hdd btw. he has a /boot on his linux partition all that he need (I think) is that stuff in his hdd's boot sector
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah, so do that command.
[06:23] <ScarFreewill> ok so just "sudo grub-install /dev/sdc" and it won't mess my with any other hdd than sdc?
[06:24] <Arwen> well, no, but it also won't do anything unless sdc is first to boot
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> nope.
[06:24] <yamal> !flash
[06:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:25] <ScarFreewill> ye first boot is sda second sdb third is his hdd sdc
[06:26] <ScarFreewill> should I do something like this "mount /dev/sdc1? /mnt/" then "chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash" then "grub-install /dev/sdc"
[06:26] <ScarFreewill> oops...
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> first command is right
[06:26] <ScarFreewill> "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/" then ...
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> yes
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> second command doesn't need the last part
[06:27] <ScarFreewill> k
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> third command is right (assuming menu.lst  on that partition has all the right info)
[06:28] <ScarFreewill> yes all his /boot stuff is right
[06:28] <ScarFreewill> well /mnt/boot for that matter...
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[06:29] <ScarFreewill> "chroot /mnt" it tells me "chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt: Operation not permitted"
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> sudo
[06:30] <ScarFreewill> ;p
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> lol
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I'm having booting issues
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Hard drive comes up
[06:32] <ScarFreewill> I just wanted to check if every thing was the same in chroot envirment so i did "sudo fdisk -l" it told me "cannot open /proc/partitions" is this nomal this is the second time I've ever been chrooted (first time was in gentoo installation and i didn't have clue what i was doing ;p)
[06:32] <DaSkreech>  Grub comes up (very slowly)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> then I get incorrect file structure
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Ran a fsck it seems to say everythign is fine/
[06:32] <DaSkreech>  What files could I be missing?
[06:32] <DaSkreech>  other than the Kernel
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Which seems to be there
[06:33] <DaSkreech> !chroot | ScarFreewill
[06:33] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:33] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: that will help you get .proc and /dev mapped properly
[06:34] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: i wouldn't do anything in there besides grub-install...
[06:34] <ScarFreewill> I did sudo grub-install /dev/sdc and it tells me /dev/sdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: hmm..
[06:36] <nosrednaekim> see if sdc is in /dev
[06:36] <ScarFreewill> k
[06:37] <ScarFreewill> there is like 20 partitions on my sdc but its there
[06:37] <ScarFreewill> it also looked like my /dev has x3 in hardware/files
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> just curious, check if there is a /dev/sdd
[06:38] <ScarFreewill> yup and almost to o
[06:38] <ScarFreewill> (sdo)
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: hmm... have you ever booted this installation?
[06:39] <ScarFreewill> well not on my pc since that is why I want to boot loader for
[06:39] <ScarFreewill> should I try to install the bootloader in his pc?
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> wait... does your computer have two hard drives besides this one?
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> and yes, i'd do it in his.
[06:40] <ScarFreewill> yes (250 linux myne--120win myne--250linux his)
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> all sata?
[06:41] <ScarFreewill> the only prob is he doesn't have internet (this is south africa everything is very expancive especaly technoligy... except for linux...)
[06:42] <ScarFreewill> yes all sata
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> and all his are sata?
[06:42] <ScarFreewill> yes as far is I know
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: do a df, see what partition of what disc chroot thinks its in
[06:43] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: Do they have those Linux kiosks that I keep hearing about down there?
[06:44] <ScarFreewill> DaSkreech: lol I don't know what is kiosks ;p
[06:44] <ScarFreewill> nosrednaekim: /dev/sdb1             18366468   1961328  15472168  12% /
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> ahh ha... so it thinks its on sdb1
[06:45] <ScarFreewill> nosrednaekim: that 18gb partition looks like his linux partition (sdc1)
[06:45] <ScarFreewill> so should I try to grub the sdb?
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> yeah,...... so it thinks its hdb.... yeah....
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> do that.
[06:46] <ScarFreewill> hdb?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[06:46] <ScarFreewill> isn't it sdb?
[06:46] <ScarFreewill> sudo grub-install /dev/hdb?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> no wait.. sorry
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> no.. sdb, my bad
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> i'm used to thinking h
[06:46] <ScarFreewill> np
[06:47] <ScarFreewill> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[06:47] <ScarFreewill> ;p
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Hi Mez
[06:49] <ScarFreewill> I guess I format is in oder ;p
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: not neccesarily..
[06:49] <ScarFreewill> well there is no important files on his linux partitoin ....
[06:49] <ScarFreewill> he just installed last night
[06:50] <nosrednaekim> ScarFreewill: ok, yeah, I guess you can reformat, but i'm not quite sure what the problem is.
[06:50] <ScarFreewill> thanks a lot for you help though I'm learned quite a lot :D
[06:51] <ScarFreewill> I'm going to go to his house now and just going to reinstall it...
[06:51] <Mez> hi DaSkreech
[06:51] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: Wait
[06:51] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: http://www.go-opensource.org/campaign/partners/freedom_toaster/4/
[06:51] <DaSkreech> That was it the freedom toaster
[06:51] <mathias_> hello
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[06:51] <ScarFreewill> DaSkreech: yes I know that :D
[06:52] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: those really exist around the place?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Mez: how goes?
[06:52] <ScarFreewill> DaSkreech: I have not used one but I hear its not to updated (I've got 64kb/s uncaped internet so I don't really need that) yes they do exist
[06:52] <david__> How do i install drivers for an nVidia GeForce FX 5200? the info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia didn't help/work
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> david__: easiest way is to get the restricted manager, and use that
[06:53] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Any idea what could be my booting issue?
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech:  bad HD?
[06:54] <david__> nosrednaekim: how would igo about doing that?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: :-P I just got it and I can mount it fine
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Though I do understand that mounting doesn't mean that the file structure is correct
[06:54] <DaSkreech>  fsck clears it though
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> david__: " sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: reiser? hpmh.
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> I hate the reiserFS
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> too heavy on CPU
[06:55] <DaSkreech> I'm starting to as well
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> ext3 is better
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Winder if he's out of jail yet
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: I think he's on bail
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> I believe that tutorial that you went to refers to the restricted manager.
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> david__: ^^
[06:56] <DaSkreech> So What files would it be looking for that don't cause a kernel panic?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: sorry, could you restate your problem? you are getting a kernel panic?
[06:57] <david__> nosrednaekim: it's installing it and it's deps right now
[06:57] <DaSkreech> No
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok
[06:57] <DaSkreech> My machine cmoes up
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> does what?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> oh.. comes
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> but its slow?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> The BIOS etc can see my drive SMART doesn't spout off. (Should install smartmontools shouldn't I?)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> GRUB comes up
[06:57] <DaSkreech>  Very slowly
[06:58] <DaSkreech> then I get a 16 incorrect file structure
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> like it hands on loading stage 1.5 for a while?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: oh.. you have ti reinstall grub
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> *tp
[06:58] <DaSkreech> aw sweet :)
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> *to
[06:58] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <david__> nosrednaekim: it came up with 3 errors when i tried to start it
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: you can temporarily boot by using the livecd to replace your grub
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> david__: what are they?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: I know I'm on the live CD now
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> make sure you do "kdesu restricted-manager"
[07:00] <david__> nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not find module /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[07:00] <david__> nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory
[07:00] <david__> nosrednaekim: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> david__: this is printed in the konsole when you start restricted manager?
[07:01] <david__> nosrednaekim: yeah
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> and resctritedmanager refuses to start?
[07:01] <david__> nosrednaekim: yup
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> did you run "kdesu restricted-manager"?
[07:02] <david__> nosrednaekim: i ran it with sudo
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> do kdesu.
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> not sure if sudo works..
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> just try kdesu
[07:03] <david__> nosrednaekim: same thing happened
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> david__: hmm sudo works here....
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> odd... oh well, you can do it the manual way (its not hard)
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> start adept-manager
[07:05] <david__> nosrednaekim: it's started
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> david__: search for nvidia-glx
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> david__: do you know the model of your nvdia graphhics card?
[07:06] <jim88> I need help ... I cannot remove helix player ... I've tried sudo apt-get remove helix-player ... and it I get  the error Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:06] <jim88>  /var/cache/apt/archives/helix-player_1.0.6-3_i386.deb
[07:06] <jim88> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:06] <jim88> sorry
[07:07] <DaSkreech> jim88: Sorry?
[07:07] <david__> nosrednaekim: it's a GeForce FX 5200, and adept says i have nvidia-glx-legacy installed
[07:07] <jim88> I should have used pastebin
[07:07] <DaSkreech> jim88: You figured it out?
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> david__: hmm remove that.
[07:07] <jim88> nope
[07:07] <DaSkreech> jim88: Ah
[07:07] <DaSkreech> jim88: remove that file. You used apt-get to install helix ?
[07:07] <david__> nosrednaekim: it's set to remove
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> david__: that could be causing problems.
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> hit apply
[07:07] <jim88> I don't remember
[07:08] <jim88> so all I have to do is remove the /var/chache?
[07:08] <david__> nosrednaekim: done, now what?
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> install nvidia-glx-new
[07:09] <david__> nosrednaekim: it's d/l'ing and installing now
[07:09] <DaSkreech> jim88: yeah it doesn't hurt anything except download times
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok
[07:09] <jim88> ok
[07:10] <david__> nosrednaekim: there was an error committing changes
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> what was it?
[07:11] <david__> nosrednaekim: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> was there any details section? or anythin?
[07:11] <david__> nosrednaekim: nope, just a dialog saying that
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> ok, close adept and run this on the command line "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> that'll give us a better error message
[07:13] <david__> nosrednaekim:
[07:13] <david__> Unpacking nvidia-glx-new (from .../nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb) ...
[07:13] <david__> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:13] <david__>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-settings', which is also in package nvidia-settings
[07:13] <david__> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:13] <david__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:13] <david__>  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb
[07:13] <david__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> ! pastebin
[07:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:14] <xst> No matter how hard I try I have not been able to enable an external monitor to my laptop. Every time I configure a secondary monitor in "system settings" X won't restart. What should I do?
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> david__: oh ok... "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-settings"
[07:15] <david__> nosrednaekim: it removed with no problems
[07:15] <david__> nosrednaekim: should i try installing nvidia-glx-new again?
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> run that previous command again... you can reach it by pressing the up arrow
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> yes
[07:16] <david__> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26626/
[07:16] <DaSkreech> jim88: You don't remember how you installed helix?
[07:17] <david__> nosrednaekim: should i remove nvidia-xconfig if it is installed?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> xst: alt+ctrl+backspace restarts X
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> david__: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-xconfig"
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[07:18] <david__> nosrednaekim: removed without a problem, imma try to install nvidia-glx-new again
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> david__: your problem was that you installed the wrong nvidia drivers. You installed the ones for legacy card (before 2002)
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> ok
[07:18] <xst> DaSkreech: Yes it *tries* to restart X but it cannot. It won't start again
[07:18] <jim88> DaSkreech: I don't remeber how I installed helix but I am still getting an error that I cannot remove helix-player
[07:18] <DaSkreech> xst: Ah
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !xinerama
[07:18] <jim88> DaSkreech: I don't remeber how I installed helix but I am still getting an error that I cannot remove helix-player ... it wants to install it
[07:18] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:19] <david__> nosrednaekim: it installed problem-free
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok!
[07:19] <DaSkreech> jim88: Well can You pastebin your sources?
[07:19] <jim88> one sec
[07:19] <DaSkreech> jim88: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <david__> nosrednaekim: now what do i do?
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> david__:
[07:19] <nosrednaekim> just a second
[07:20] <david__> nosrednaekim: k
[07:20] <DaSkreech> !Dualhead | xst
[07:20] <ubotu> xst: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:21] <hammer> hi
[07:21] <hammer> !java
[07:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:23] <jim88> DaSkreech:  here is my sources.list  http://pastebin.ca/581702
[07:23] <polopolo> is a new amaroK out?
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok, see if you have this command "nvidia-xconfig"
[07:24] <SlimG2> polopolo: yes
[07:24] <SlimG2> polopolo: http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/234
[07:24] <david__> nosrednaekim: ok
[07:24] <polopolo> aha, ok, but where I come for
[07:24] <david__> nosrednaekim: i've got it
[07:24] <polopolo> ntfs-config works not on my pc
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> david__: run it
[07:24] <DaSkreech> polopolo: today
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> david__: with a sudo
[07:25] <polopolo> i've installed but when I run it, nothing happend
[07:25] <david__> nosrednaekim: ran with no errors
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok, could you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:25] <david__> gimme a sec to open it in kate
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> david__: no problem
[07:27] <polopolo> nobody knows the answer?
[07:27] <david__> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26627/
[07:28] <DaSkreech> polopolo: tried ntfs3g?
[07:29] <polopolo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite#head-c067eb7e3cd4107cc08cdf30a9e1aed8adb02971
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok, log out, click on the little menu in kdm, and select restart x
[07:29] <david__> nosrednaekim: and if X doesn't come up?
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> and oh yeah.. cross your fingers
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[07:30] <david__> nosrednaekim: i'll restore from the backup xorg.conf if it doesn't work and come back here, if it does work, i'll come back here
[07:30] <jim88> DaSkreech:  did you get my pastebin?   http://pastebin.ca/581702
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> david__: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and select the nv driver
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> david__: that works!
[07:31] <DaSkreech> jim88: ok
[07:31] <david__> nosrednaekim: right now?
[07:31] <polopolo> Nobody has answer for my?
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> david__: no time like the present
[07:31] <david__> nosrednaekim: right now?
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> david__: yeah
[07:31] <DaSkreech> jim88: you seem to have a pretty standard (bad Automatix!) set of repos
[07:32] <david__> nosrednaekim: select the nvidia driver?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> jim88: what command are you running?
[07:32] <Kjellviz> hey, i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kde desktop on top, where did all those funky screensavers i had in gnome go ?
[07:32] <jim88> DaSkreech:  command for what?
[07:32] <nosrednaekim> david__: no no..
[07:32] <DaSkreech> jim88: removing helix
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> I meant that if you were stuck without x, thats how you get it back
[07:33] <polopolo> nobody has the answer, I go to the forums then :(
[07:33] <jim88> DaSkreech:  sudo apt-get remove helix-player
[07:33] <zipper> For some reason, my kubuntu feisty installation has begun to get unresponsive for a couple of minutes once in a while. This has never been a problem before, and since i havent updated or installed anything i don't know what could be causing this. Any ideas?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> jim88: and it complains about the cache?
[07:33] <jim88> yes
[07:34] <Kjellviz> zipper: do u have a wireless card installed ?
[07:34] <david__> nosrednaekim: ok :) i'm gonna go restart it now.
[07:34] <zipper> Kjellviz, no
[07:34] <DaSkreech> jim88: can you do a sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> david__: see ya! (I hope)
[07:34] <Kjellviz> zipper: ok, then i dunno, thats what made my installation become buggy and crash ><
[07:34] <zipper> Kjellviz, hmm i see. Well, thanks anyway.
[07:35] <jim88> DaSkreech:  it says  errors were encountered while processing mozilla-helix-player
[07:36] <DaSkreech> jim88: is there a file called helix-player_1.0.6-3_i386.deb in the cache folder ?
[07:37] <jim88> DaSkreech:  you told me to delete it earlier and I did from the var/cache file
[07:37] <DaSkreech> jim88: k
[07:38] <DaSkreech> jim88: try reinstall it
[07:38] <DaSkreech> then remove it :)
[07:38] <xman> Does anybody know a channel for kernel/hardware issues besides #linux ?
[07:38] <jim88> that's what I was having problems with ... it would not delete and I got errors
[07:38] <xman> One with good kernel.hardware knowledge ?
[07:38] <metbsd> i why i dl kubuntu but it says ubuntu 7.04
[07:39] <DaSkreech> xman: #hardware ?
[07:39] <Fra_221187> salve
[07:40] <xman> Nobody answers ...
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !paitence
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <nosrednaekim> !patience
[07:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:40] <Fra_221187> scusate la domanda che sicuramente avranno gi fatto in molti, ma sto provando kubuntu dopo un bel po di ubuntu alle spalle: c' un modo per attivare compiz in automatico come in ubuntu feisty o bisogna installarlo a mano? grazie
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !it
[07:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:41] <xman> I'm waiting like 20 mins
[07:41] <Fra_221187> preciso che non mi interessa la 0.4 o 0.5
[07:41] <xman> And waiting ... and then some more ...
[07:41] <DaSkreech> xman: in ##linux ?
[07:41] <xman> Maybe it's something with the channel ...
[07:41] <Fra_221187> i'm sorry, i'm going to the italian channel ;)
[07:41] <Fra_221187> bye
[07:41] <DaSkreech> that's one of the busier channels
[07:42] <Kjellviz> hey, if you dont enjoy the waiting in a free support channel i suggest you pay for support ><
[07:42] <xman> DaSkreech: Nobody knew what was happening ... so ... bummer ...
[07:42] <DaSkreech> xman: what hardware?
[07:42] <xman> mobo: ABit KT7A
[07:42] <DaSkreech> jim88: as far as I know a remove command shouldn't even check the cache
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Hi ompaul
[07:42] <david__> nosrednaekim: ok, i restarted, and it didn't work.
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> david__: you restored the backup?
[07:43] <xman> Kjellviz: I don't minfd waiting. I just don't know if i'm asking where i should :\
[07:43] <david__> nosrednaekim: i ran the command you gave me and switch to the nv driver
[07:43] <ompaul> DaSkreech, evening
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> and that brought it back? or not..
[07:44] <chris_scummette> hi there
[07:44] <jhutchins_lt> xman: What's the question?  I think that's what I have upstairs.
[07:44] <chris_scummette> i was wondering
[07:44] <david__> nosrednaekim: the command with the nv driver brought me back into X
[07:44] <chris_scummette> somthing
[07:44] <DaSkreech> xman: Sup with it?
[07:44] <xman> UGH
[07:44] <xman> Here it comes
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !ask | chris_scummette
[07:44] <ubotu> chris_scummette: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:44] <andy_> hi
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> david__: ok... well run that command again, and this time select the nvidia driver. then Reboot.
[07:44] <chris_scummette> its kinda dumb ^^
[07:44] <nosrednaekim> just to be sure
[07:44] <xman> My system spends insame amounts of time on IOWAITS
[07:44] <david__> ok
[07:45] <chris_scummette> i was wonderig are there any anti-virus for kubuntu
[07:45] <xman> Tried as much that i could fill a novel
[07:45] <DaSkreech> xman: what chipset ?
[07:45] <jhutchins_lt> xman: bad HD or controller.
[07:45] <xman> Nothing works ...
[07:45] <xman> All of them ?
[07:45] <chris_scummette> i know linux is not the favorite aim but...
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !virus | chris_scummette
[07:45] <ubotu> chris_scummette: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:45] <zombielion> i was wonderin ghow i get divx and xvid videos to play in kubuntu
[07:45] <chris_scummette> perfect !
[07:45] <chris_scummette> hehe
[07:45] <xman> Via
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !codecs | zombielion
[07:45] <ubotu> zombielion: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:45] <andy_> i run kubuntu n so far i cant find n e anti virus stuff
[07:45] <chris_scummette> cause some of my contacts on msn have been atacked
[07:46] <DaSkreech> xman: That's a company :)
[07:46] <xman> Nb KT133A, Sb 686b
[07:46] <david__> nosrednaekim: i'll see you in a few minutes, hopefully.
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> david__: yeah
[07:46] <xman> DaSkreech: you type faster then i think :)
[07:46] <DaSkreech> xman: and you haven't seen any reports from a Net search on your problem ?
[07:47] <leileilol> nihao
[07:47] <xman> Yeah, right. I wish. Ireally wish i did so.
[07:47] <xman> But no.
[07:47] <DaSkreech> xman: Maybe it's not the motherboard?
[07:47] <xman> All say something about 686b bug and skipped sound with sblive which i don't have (anymore)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Ah sb :-)
[07:48] <xman> DaSkreech: Any good ideas ?
[07:48] <zombielion> im tottaly new to linux and i have no idea how to get divx and xvid to work if it will even work can someone kinda walk me thru or soemthing
[07:48] <xman> Any bad ones ?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> xman: this is Storage IO you are waiting on?
[07:48] <xman> AHA.
[07:49] <Kjellviz> zombielion: install and use VLC media player
[07:49] <DaSkreech> zombielion: did you read the page ubotu just mentioned to you?
[07:49] <zombielion> i have been trying but i dont know how
[07:49] <xman> Anything to do with physical storage kills my CPU
[07:49] <Kjellviz> zombielion: what it want play u can just delete ><
[07:49] <DaSkreech> xman: tried switching your IDE cables?
[07:49] <jhutchins_lt> xman: Haven't you been dealing with this for like several weeks or months now?
[07:49] <xman> Be it CD/DVD, HDD, USB
[07:49] <zombielion> ? kjellviz
[07:49] <xman> jhutchins_lt: Glad you remembered :)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: If you are't being helpful please wait in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <jhutchins_lt> xman: It's not gonna get better.
[07:50] <xman> Just tried some kernel params
[07:50] <jhutchins_lt> xman: Let me guess, didn't help.
[07:50] <xman> jhutchins_lt: Twist the knive, will you ?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> xman: would you happen to have any friends with the same motherboard model? Or family at least ?
[07:50] <Kjellviz> DaSkreech: uhm ? for starters im waiting for answer to my own question, furthermore i gave him a reasonable solution that worked wonders for me!
[07:50] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Did you see the page that ubotu mentioned to you?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: What's your question?
[07:51] <xman> noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, acpi=noirq, noapictimer, irqpoll etc etc ad nauseam
[07:51] <xman> DaSkreech: I do. Same stuff, hardware and software.
[07:51] <Kjellviz> DaSkreech: i installed kde desktop on my ubuntu installation and wonder where all those nice screensavers i had in Gnome are now
[07:51] <xman> Same problem
[07:52] <Kjellviz> zombielion: what i said was try installing a mediaplayer called VLC
[07:52] <DaSkreech> xman: Really? Thats interesting
[07:52] <xman> Also on an nvidia nf2 powered ABIT AN7
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: they are managed by gnome-screensaver
[07:52] <Kjellviz> zombielion: it should play most divx and xvids without having the need of installing extra codecs
[07:52] <xman> Couldn't get my hands on any intel system tho ...
[07:52] <chris_scummette> is there any french kubuntu room?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> !fr
[07:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:53] <Kjellviz> DaSkreech: ok, so basically i would need to run gnome to use them ?
[07:53] <zombielion> ya i am kinda looking at them linux is confusing and i have tried to get vlc player but i just dont know how
[07:53] <zombielion> do the same way to do stuff apply for kubuntu
[07:53] <zombielion> everything is in ubuntu
[07:53] <phpcode> How to open a rar file?
[07:53] <metbsd> how do i configure wireless card?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: Umm Maybe not. but they may be kept somewhere that KDE isn't expecting
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: iwconfig
[07:53] <zombielion> how do i install that
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: I can tell you you shoudl start looking in /usr/share
[07:54] <metbsd> as regular user?
[07:54] <zombielion> i have been trying to since last night and i dont know what i am doing
[07:54] <DaSkreech> zombielion: ok What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[07:54] <metbsd> i have one ath0
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: you can, but to make any changes to it, you have to be in sudo
[07:54] <zombielion> 7.04 i think fiesty fawn
[07:54] <Kjellviz> DaSkreech: ok, well its no biggie, sure i can browse for them :)  also i guess there are some downloadable screensavers for kde
[07:54] <chris_scummette> another dumb thing i was wondering
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: ok, could you pastebin the output?
[07:54] <metbsd> can you teach me how to do it?
[07:54] <chris_scummette> about...
[07:54] <chris_scummette> defrag
[07:55] <jhutchins_lt> xman: The RAID feature available on that motherboard routinely destroyed data.
[07:55] <metbsd> no
[07:55] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Do you have adept open?
[07:55] <metbsd> i have no internet connection
[07:55] <xman> I have the nonraid version ....
[07:55] <metbsd> cannot paste
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Kjellviz: yes kdescreensavers as I recall
[07:55] <chris_scummette> at work i had to defrag today and i was wondering "does kubuntu has these problems"
[07:55] <xman> But what's the use ...
[07:55] <metbsd> IEEE 802.11g
[07:55] <DaSkreech> !info kdescreensavers
[07:55] <metbsd> ESSID empty
[07:55] <metbsd> Mode managed
[07:55] <ubotu> Package kdescreensavers does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:55] <metbsd> freq 2.437 GHz
[07:55] <zombielion> no which one the add/remove one or the manager
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: stop stop
[07:55] <ashu18> hello??? i need help
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> ashu18: whats the problem?
[07:56] <Kjellviz> DaSkreech: thanks you are mighy helpful, and im stunned by your multitasking capability! =D
[07:56] <zombielion> ok i have adapt manager open
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> zombielion: search for vlc
[07:56] <ashu18> i am an ubuntu user...but it won't acceot my cds at all.....so i am thinking of changing to kubuntu...but i get an error message there too
[07:56] <zombielion> nothing
[07:57] <DaSkreech> zombielion: the manager
[07:57] <zombielion> i have the manager open and i came back with nothing
[07:57] <DaSkreech> ashu18: accept your cds ?
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> ashu18: accept your cds? could you be a bit more specific?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> zombielion: under the adept menu go to manage repos
[07:57] <ashu18> it's something like "only root can access unionfs in / "
[07:57] <zombielion> ok done
[07:57] <DaSkreech> zombielion: you should have a set of checkboxes with two unchecked ?
[07:57] <ashu18> i mean it doesn't respond if i insert a CD
[07:58] <metbsd> so, no help for me?
[07:58] <zombielion> in which tab
[07:58] <jim88> DaSkreech:  I get an new error when I go to install helix-player ... http://pastebin.ca/581747
[07:58] <zombielion> kubuntu software tab?
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: "sudo iwlist ath0 scan"
[07:59] <DaSkreech> zombielion: first one
[07:59] <metbsd> what password?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> zombielion: are all the checkmarks checked?
[07:59] <ashu18> i am using ubuntu right now...i will switch over to kubuntu only if it will take in the CDs
[08:00] <DaSkreech> jim88: You have realplayer installed as well?
[08:00] <chris_scummette> why doesn't K recognize my floppy ?
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: your password
[08:00] <jim88> DaSkreech:  I think so
[08:00] <metbsd> what's password
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ashu18: there was a tutorial on how to get that to work ...
[08:00] <ashu18> where??
[08:01] <ashu18> i am new linux so i am having loads of trouble with all these commands and all
[08:01] <ashu18> 'new to linux'
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> ashu18: what are trying to mount a unionfs for?
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> what cd are you trying to load?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> ashu18: Sorry about that :)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> jim88: How did you install that?
[08:02] <ashu18> well i am pathetic...i don't what on earth unionfs is supposed to be
[08:02] <metbsd> nosrednaekim, i see the essid abc
[08:02] <metbsd> nosrednaekim, what to do next?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ashu18: that's ok what kind of CD is it?
[08:02] <jim88> I think thru automatix
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: "sudo iwconfig ath0 ESSID abc"
[08:03] <metbsd> what about password?
[08:03] <metbsd> i have a password for abc
[08:03] <DaSkreech> jim88: Just checking have you asked in #automatix ?
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: is it WEP?
[08:03] <metbsd> not sure
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: that iwlist command would tell you
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ashu18: What is on the CD?
[08:05] <jim88> DaSkreech:  it won't let me delete anything because of the helix-player issue ... I've even tried deleting realplayer and all I get is the error I posted
[08:05] <metbsd> wpa version1
[08:05] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: errr... now thats going to be hard.
[08:05] <metbsd> wpa2 version 1
[08:05] <DaSkreech> jim88: Yeah. Automatix can be a pain
[08:05] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: you have to use the network manager
[08:06] <metbsd> where
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: do you see it in your panel?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> jim88: can you join #automatix ?
[08:06] <chris_scummette> flopppppppppppies
[08:06] <chris_scummette> i need help about floppy drives!
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: you are running 7.04 fiesty right?
[08:06] <metbsd> y
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> because it matters..
[08:06] <ashu18> hey i am back
[08:06] <metbsd> i launch it, but it does not come out
[08:07] <metbsd> yes it's 7.04
[08:07] <ashu18> i am using the kubuntu live cd
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !floppy
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: it should be on your panel
[08:07] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:07] <chris_scummette> alright
[08:07] <DaSkreech> chris_scummette: see if ^^^ helps
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> ashu18: ok, so whats the problem?
[08:08] <ashu18> well if i rdouble click on cd rom or cd rw icon, this error message shows:
[08:08] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: I have to go...
[08:08] <ashu18> The desktop entry file
[08:08] <ashu18> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/CDWRITER Device
[08:08] <ashu18> is of type FSDevice but has no Dev=... entry.
[08:09] <ashu18> is kubuntu totally different from ubuntu?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ashu18: not very much different
[08:10] <yurimxpxman> could someone please help me with this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26643/
[08:10] <DaSkreech> ashu18: just a different interface
[08:11] <ashu18> ok, now what about my problem??
[08:12] <DaSkreech> yurimxpxman: can you ask in #winehq as well ?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> ashu18: You have two CD drives?
[08:12] <yurimxpxman> DaSkreech: I did, but nobody seems to be there
[08:12] <ashu18> one guy in the #ubuntu channel did something called 'ssh' and told me that it's a hardware problem
[08:12] <ashu18> no just one cd-rw drive
[08:13] <DaSkreech> ashu18: He logged into your machine
[08:14] <ashu18> whatever he told that it's hardware problem...what do you reckon???
[08:14] <yurimxpxman> DaSkreech: do you have any ideas?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> yurimxpxman: not really jsut glanced and saw it was a wine error
[08:15] <ashu18> should i replace ubuntu with kubuntu on my machine??
[08:16] <DaSkreech> ashu18: You can't see anything from your CD rom?
[08:16] <ashu18> No, it won't accept ANYTHING
[08:17] <DaSkreech> ashu18: do you mind me using you to poke around a bit ?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> !automount
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <ashu18> not at all
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ashu18: can you open a konsole and type ls /dev/hd then press tab twice ?
[08:18] <ashu18> but i am VERY tired doing all these stuff
[08:18] <ashu18> i hav been doing these for about 20 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
[08:19] <DaSkreech> ashu18: really? That's not right
[08:19] <ashu18> anyway konsole is like Terminal of ubuntu, right??
[08:19] <DaSkreech> ashu18: yes
[08:19] <DaSkreech> ashu18: press alt+space and type konsole
[08:20] <ashu18> nothing happens after i press Tab twice
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> yurimxpxman: What's that supposed to be?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> ashu18: really?
[08:20] <ashu18> yeah
[08:20] <DaSkreech> ashu18: umm ok take off the hd and try sd
[08:20] <MrBallZ> hi, how long does it take , to get new Amarok , thru the kubuntu repos ... it was released today ... or should I just upgrade bymyself ...
[08:20] <DaSkreech> so ls /dev/sd tab twice
[08:21] <DaSkreech> MrBallZ: it will probably be there in a few hours
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> You know, this business of making all storage devices mount root only on a system where there is no root user is pretty dumb.
[08:21] <shady-> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <metbsd> how do i keep my system up to date?
[08:21] <ashu18> DaSkreech: can't you plz use that ssh thing to poke around urself????? i am getting really frustrated......
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ashu18: ok What's your IP address ?
[08:22] <ksivaji> metbsd use adept-updater
[08:22] <ashu18> i changed to linux for personal use, not to learn commands.............
[08:22] <yurimxpxman> jhutchins_lt: it's an old educational game
[08:22] <ashu18> how do i know in kubuntu???
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> ashu18: If you don't want to learn anything, you should probably go back to windows.
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> !mp3
[08:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> ashu18: There are other distributions that default to mounting storage as read-all, but they have things you need to learn about them also.
[08:23] <ashu18> well i HAVE tried to learn for a month, and i still haven't solved this silly mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can put yourself in a situation once!!!
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> !nvidia
[08:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <DaSkreech> jim88: hello?
[08:24] <ScarFreewill> !beryl
[08:24] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <ashu18> i really can't expect to stay with an OS which won't take in CDs
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> ashu18: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde desktop instead of gnome, it's really not going to run very differently.
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> ashu18: I agree that the behavior is annoying.
[08:24] <shady-> As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager. <-- help.. i'm using kunbutu and i can't find it
[08:25] <ashu18> is there any other good distro??
[08:25] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: it's how it's mounting that's the issue?
[08:25] <ashu18> i don't have windows cd either
[08:25] <ksivaji> ashu18 kubuntu
[08:25] <metbsd> so how do i mount my ntfs
[08:26] <ashu18> ksivaji: what are you doing here???
[08:26] <DaSkreech> !ntfs | metbsd
[08:26] <ubotu> metbsd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:26] <jhutchins_lt> yurimxpxman: You can sometimes go to winehq.com and get the latest release, sometimes that will work.  The game may need to be installed or something.  I think there's a good #wine channel too.
[08:26] <ksivaji> !ntfs | metbsd
[08:26] <ksivaji> ashu18 this is my home channel
[08:26] <ashu18> ksivaji so you are more of a kubuntu guy???
[08:26] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: can you change the main user that CDs mount as ?
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: Yeah, I think you can do that with fstab.
[08:27] <DaSkreech> HAL manages taht right?
[08:27] <ksivaji> ashu18 yes
[08:27] <ashu18> ksivaji: can you help my plight then???
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: Yeah, hal, and nobody can tell which layer is actually in control, so...
[08:28] <ksivaji> no i am just started learning
[08:28] <ashu18> oops
[08:28] <ksivaji> ashu18 moreover you are not cooperating
[08:28] <DaSkreech> ashu18: who told you that it was a hardware issue?
[08:28] <ashu18> i am...i am just irritated
[08:28] <ashu18> someone called '
[08:28] <ashu18> gonzoism from the #ubuntu channel
[08:29] <ksivaji> ashu18 i feel very sad for you but you are funny in #ubuntu-in
[08:29] <fnordperfect> why are there so few fonts selectable in konsole? I'd like the one which ships with xfonts-dosemu..!
[08:29] <ashu18> ksivaji: may i ask you to use my desktop for a day??? you will become funny yourself
[08:30] <ashu18> ksivaji: are there other guys from #ubuntu-in here too?
[08:31] <ksivaji> nope
[08:31] <DaSkreech> I would guess yes :)
[08:31] <ashu18> DaSkreech: can u just try ssh plz?? i am feeling sleepy............
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ashu18: type ifconfig and give me your IP address
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ashu18: Though I would guess you are behind a DSL Modem
[08:32] <ashu18> yep
[08:33] <ashu18> DaSkreech: But i am still using the live cd....will i install first and then you will enter my system???
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ashu18: What is installed on the machine now?
[08:33] <ashu18> ubuntu
[08:34] <DaSkreech> I'd prefer just looking at that.
[08:34] <ashu18> you mean ubuntu?????
[08:34] <DaSkreech> That way you can test if CDs work
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:35] <mcquaid> i had the flash plugin working fine in konq.  But I removed the pkg via apt and manually installed a newer version
[08:35] <ashu18> ok, let me boot in ubuntu first...see u in a minute
[08:35] <mcquaid> it still works in firefox but not konq.  I had it rescan for plugins but no dice
[08:35] <mcquaid> i manually copied libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[08:36] <mcquaid> it's listed in konq as directories to scan but it's not working
[08:36] <mcquaid> any suggestions?
[08:36] <metbsd> i've mount ntfs , but i can't access it
[08:36] <jhutchins_lt> mcquaid: Same problem, different distro.  File or vote on a bugreport.
[08:36] <DaSkreech> metbsd: how did you mount it?
[08:36] <mcquaid> jhutchins_lt, you have the same problem?
[08:36] <metbsd> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt
[08:36] <mcquaid> strange it was working with the package
[08:37] <mcquaid> what is the apt pkg doing differently?
[08:37] <metbsd> i've mount ntfs , but i can't access it
[08:37] <metbsd> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt
[08:38] <DaSkreech> metbsd: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt - umask=022
[08:38] <mcquaid> why aren't you using ntfs-3g?
[08:38] <mcquaid> gives me no probs mounting ntfs with read/write
[08:38] <metbsd> i'm newbie
[08:39] <metbsd> i used to use bsd unix
[08:39] <mcquaid> ah
[08:39] <mcquaid> well install ntfs-3g
[08:39] <ashu18> DaSkreech: why do you need my ip?? the other guy used my account password only
[08:39] <DaSkreech> mcquaid: didn't say that he couldn't write
[08:39] <jetsaredim> any packages of the new amarok
[08:39] <mcquaid> mount like so ntfs-3g /dev/hda5 /media/xp/
[08:39] <DaSkreech> ashu18: Of course :-)
[08:39] <mcquaid> no i know he has read access issues.  just at this point I don't see why someone wouldn't use ntfs-3g even just for reading
[08:40] <ashu18> so u just want the password??
[08:40] <mcquaid> well when it's mounted can root read it? I assume yes
[08:40] <DaSkreech> ashu18: yes
[08:40] <mcquaid> if so, you haven't given yourself permissions for other users to read where your mounting it
[08:40] <ashu18> got it??
[08:41] <mcquaid> but to change permissions you have to unmount it first
[08:41] <DaSkreech> ashu18: nope :(
[08:41] <DaSkreech> ashu18: are you on a IM?
[08:41] <metbsd> how do i update system and install that ntfs-eg
[08:41] <ashu18> yeah...XChat
[08:41] <DaSkreech> :-P other than that smarty
[08:42] <ashu18> no
[08:42] <DaSkreech> !ntfs-3g
[08:42] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:42] <DaSkreech> ashu18: are you registered with Nickserv ?
[08:42] <ashu18> what????????
[08:42] <ashu18> no
[08:42] <DaSkreech> ashu18: you tried to send me a Private message ?
[08:43] <ashu18> yes
[08:43] <ashu18> didn't u get it??
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !register | ashu18
[08:43] <ubotu> ashu18: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:43] <DaSkreech> no You have to register with the nickserver
[08:45] <ashu18> did you get it from ashu19???
[08:46] <ashu19> DaSkreech: did you get the password?
[08:46] <jhutchins_lt> !register
[08:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:46] <DaSkreech> ashu19: are you registered ?
[08:47] <ashu19> i cant register now...ok the password is:
[08:47] <ashu19> 12345
[08:48] <ashu19> now can u ssh???
[08:48] <ksivaji> ashu19 must have ssh installled and started
[08:49] <DaSkreech> ashu18: You can answer me yes or no in the main chan
[08:49] <ashu19> in the main what?
[08:49] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why i get the 'No SConstruct file found' error while using scons? how can i help it?
[08:50] <took> how do I enable the option to double click to open folder?
[08:50] <shane2peru> hey any samba guru's around?
[08:50] <ashu19> DaSkreech: are u in my system now???
[08:50] <shane2peru> I'm trying to network windows and Kubuntu
[08:50] <DaSkreech> took: alt+space -> system Settings -> <press enter> -> mouse -> there
[08:50] <iarwain_> shane2peru: ask, maybe you'll get an answer =) (i know a little bit about samba)
[08:51] <shane2peru> followed a guide on Ubuntu, and have a small problem
[08:51] <shane2peru> iarwain, it probably isn't that hard.
[08:51] <metbsd> i have no sound
[08:51] <metbsd> help
[08:51] <shane2peru> my username on the windows box is different than the Linux box
[08:51] <DaSkreech> ashu19: Nope :-(
[08:51] <shane2peru> password too.
[08:51] <iarwain_> shane2peru: ah, no problem, wait a sec :)
[08:51] <ashu19> DaSkreech: i gave u the password!!!
[08:52] <DaSkreech> ashu19: yes but it's not accepting it
[08:52] <wiLi> hi all, I tried to upgrade my ibook from dapper drake to edgy eft yesterday using 'sudo update-manager -c' and it failed. Now the laptop won't boot into kubuntu any more (the boot screen freezes). Is there any alternative to a fresh install now?
[08:52] <ashu19> why??
[08:52] <shane2peru> iarwain_ in case you are familiar with the forums, I followed the one posted by stormbringer, rather straight forward and simple.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ashu18: type /msg nickserv register
[08:53] <iarwain_> shane2peru: kk, just looking through the forum atm, but i know it's something in samba to add a user.. just looking for the right commands
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ashu18: it will ask you for a password and you will be registered
[08:53] <ashu18> regsiter 123
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ashu18: Or we can jsut join #cdhelp
[08:54] <shane2peru> iarwain_ ok, here is the guide I used.
[08:54] <shane2peru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[08:54] <DaSkreech> ashu18: click on the word #cdhelp
[08:54] <ashu19> DaSkreech: its already 12:30 am now, mom ll kill me.....will u be there 2moro??
[08:54] <iarwain_> shane2peru: try this 'sudo smbpasswd -U username password'
[08:54] <DaSkreech> ashu19: yes. I can be here tomorrow
[08:54] <busfahrer> Are there any Amarok 1.4.6 repositories yet?
[08:54] <zombielion> DaSkreech: Im sorry I lost my connection. You was helping my with vlc. I have the manager open and all the checks are checked on the first in tab.
[08:54] <DaSkreech> ashu19: what time ?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> zombielion: I saw
[08:55] <shane2peru> ok, but do I use the windows username and password, or the Linux one?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> zombielion: ok close it and search for libxine-extracodecs
[08:55] <jetsaredim> busfahrer: was wondering the same thing
[08:55] <metbsd> !sound
[08:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:55] <jhutchins_lt> ashu19: You should be able to mount CD's with user read access now.
[08:55] <ashu19> DaSkreech: will 11 am IST or 10 pm IST be ok??
[08:55] <iarwain_> shane2peru: you create one
[08:55] <jhutchins_lt> ashu19: I 0wnz your system.
[08:55] <iarwain_> shane2peru: it's best if you add yourself with your pw
[08:55] <SlimG3> busfahrer: They usually tell on kubuntu.org when Amarok is available in repos
[08:56] <DaSkreech> I can work for 10 PM
[08:56] <shane2peru> ok, I did that.
[08:56] <ashu19> jhutchins_lt: sorry can't understand u
[08:56] <busfahrer> SlimG3: cheers
[08:56] <iarwain_> shane2peru: now restart samba
[08:56] <DaSkreech> ashu19: I may be asleep at 11 am
[08:56] <shane2peru> in the howto, it has me do that.
[08:56] <jhutchins_lt> ashu19: Try it now - see if you can read a CD.
[08:56] <shane2peru> wait, let me try with the -U option.
[08:56] <jhutchins_lt> ashu19: I hav haxx0rd your system and fixed it.
[08:57] <ashu19> jhutchins_lt: mom's getting up i won't live to try this is she finds me on he comp now
[08:57] <DaSkreech> ashu19: See you tomorrow if it doesn't work
[08:57] <DaSkreech>  go to bed!
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> Good luck.  Let me know if you want your password.
[08:57] <DaSkreech> ashu19: And power down the computer
[08:57] <DaSkreech> blast
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> That's ok, I did it for him
[08:58] <jhutchins_lt> shutdown -h now.
[08:58] <shane2peru> iarwain_ ok, I think that was the same as what I had done before with sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username
[08:58] <iarwain_> shane2peru: and it still won't work?
[08:58] <shane2peru> that is the command in the howto, then then enable command with -e
[08:58] <decapitated> Hi
[08:59] <shane2peru> no, when I go to my remote places on Linux, I can see the windows computer, but none of the folders
[08:59] <shane2peru> on the windows computer I can't even see my computer.
[08:59] <khaije1> so anyone know why my nwn install suddenly doesn't work anymore on my amd64 desktop, when it starts right up on my ia32 laptop?
[08:59] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i think it's configuring the windows pc then, and to see it, did you use the right workgroup?
[08:59] <chris_scummette> !kopete
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <chris_scummette> ha
[08:59] <chris_scummette> lol
[09:00] <shane2peru> iarwain_ let me double check that.
[09:01] <shane2peru> iarwain_ yep, workgroup is fine
[09:01] <facugaich> Anyone know how to get sound alerts in kopete when someone says something in multi-user chats?
[09:01] <iarwain_> anyone know why scons can't find the sconstruct file?
[09:01] <SlimG3> chris_scummette: We obviously need a kubotu
[09:01] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i don't quite know..
[09:01] <SlimG3> :)
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !gaim
[09:01] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !im
[09:02] <DaSkreech> facugaich: try settings -> notifications
[09:02] <iarwain_> shane2peru: did you set your security settings on your windows pc correctly?
[09:02] <shane2peru> ok, iarwain_  thanks, appreciate the help anyway.
[09:02] <facugaich> DaSkreech: already tried
[09:02] <decapitated> !ICQ
[09:02] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:02] <shane2peru> I believe so.
[09:02] <decapitated> cool
[09:02] <iarwain_> shane2peru: when i tried my server on school, teacher blocked the windows pc's to see anything
[09:02] <frojnd> how can I set myself to NOT away in konversation?
[09:02] <iarwain_> shane2peru: can you try via ip?
[09:02] <facugaich> frojnd: /back
[09:02] <DaSkreech> facugaich: Oh wait. Kopete doesn't diffrentiate between multi user chats and single suers
[09:02] <shane2peru> yes, I went back and added to the firewall rules to allow
[09:02] <DaSkreech> AFAIR
[09:02] <frojnd> tnx
[09:03] <shane2peru> how do I do that via ip iarwain_?
[09:03] <facugaich> DaSkreech: Looks like it does... I get them only while in single user chat
[09:03] <DaSkreech> !away | frojnd
[09:03] <ubotu> frojnd: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[09:03] <iarwain_> in your windows box, type in the ip of your server
[09:03] <iarwain_> shane2peru: see if it works that way
[09:03] <facugaich> DaSkreech: I'm  using MSN proto btw
[09:03] <shane2peru> my ip address correct?
[09:03] <SlimG3> frojnd: /back
[09:04] <DaSkreech> facugaich: #kopete ?
[09:04] <iarwain_> shane2peru: the ip address of the linux box you want to access
[09:04] <frojnd> tnx
[09:04] <chris_scummette> how does kopete works?
[09:04] <chris_scummette> thats all
[09:04] <chris_scummette> lol
[09:04] <yurimxpxman> chris_scummette: what do you mean?
[09:04] <chris_scummette> i cans connect !
[09:04] <chris_scummette> i mean
[09:04] <yurimxpxman> *can't?
[09:05] <chris_scummette> is it supposed to be an alternative to other IM clients?
[09:05] <shane2peru> iarwain_ no, it brings up a yahoo search for that number.
[09:05] <yurimxpxman> chris_scummette: just use Pidgin. kopete's a POS, IMHO
[09:05] <yurimxpxman> chris_scummette: http://www.pidgin.im/
[09:05] <iarwain_> shane2peru: try the ip with // in front of it => //100.100.0.3 or something like that
[09:05] <shane2peru> iarwain_: ok
[09:05] <facugaich> yurimxpxman: POS?
[09:05] <facugaich> oh
[09:05] <chris_scummette> a POS?
[09:05] <chris_scummette> IMHO?
[09:05] <facugaich> I get it
[09:06] <chris_scummette> lol
[09:06] <chris_scummette> ahhhhhhhh
[09:06] <chris_scummette> lol
[09:06] <DaSkreech> chris_scummette: connect to what?
[09:06] <yurimxpxman> chris_scummette: Piece of [poop]  \ In My Humble Opinion
[09:06] <chris_scummette> i use amsn most of the times
[09:06] <puppyuser2007047> DaSkreech: that jhutchins-It changed my password...i can't log in!!!!!!!!!!
[09:06] <shane2peru> iarwain_: no, still brings me to the yahoo search page, let me try in firefox, I don't like the new IE.
[09:06] <chris_scummette> connect to my contacts
[09:06] <puppyuser2007047> i am ashu18
[09:06] <chris_scummette> suimply!
[09:06] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: Yes he did
[09:06] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i mean the windows explorer program =)
[09:06] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: do you know how to change it back ?
[09:07] <chris_scummette> another dumb question
[09:07] <puppyuser2007047> yes i know..bt i need the password
[09:07] <chris_scummette> what is better?
[09:07] <chris_scummette> fat 16, fat32 orext3?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: no you don't you are on a live CD ?
[09:07] <puppyuser2007047> yeah, puppy linux live cd
[09:07] <shane2peru> iarwain_: ohh, I guess I should have figured that out :)), one second
[09:07] <iarwain_> chris_scummette: ext3 =)
[09:07] <chris_scummette> alroght
[09:07] <iarwain_> shane2peru: no problems xD
[09:07] <chris_scummette> right*
[09:07] <chris_scummette> hh
[09:07] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: ok mount your hard drive
[09:08] <puppyuser2007047> what???
[09:08] <chris_scummette> ok when formating
[09:08] <shane2peru> iarwain_: no, it brings up IE trying to open a web page.
[09:08] <shane2peru> iarwain_: doesn't work with the // either.
[09:08] <puppyuser2007047> k i did
[09:08] <chris_scummette> will i format my second HD as a extended partition?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: where did you mount it?
[09:08] <chris_scummette> or as a primary
[09:08] <iarwain_> shane2peru: so you start explorer (not IE, but explorer, the file manager) and you enter the ip?
[09:09] <puppyuser2007047> from Disks options
[09:09] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: so it's on your Desktop?
[09:09] <puppyuser2007047> yeah
[09:09] <shane2peru> well, I'm using XP, not sure what the explorer is, I clicked on MyComputer and deleted those words and put the ip
[09:09] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: Ok open a terminal
[09:09] <DaSkreech> and CD into the folder
[09:09] <puppyuser2007047> did it
[09:09] <iarwain_> shane2peru: that's the one =)
[09:09] <puppyuser2007047> plz b quick
[09:10] <shane2peru> iarwain_: I'm a little more Linux savvy now. :)
[09:10] <iarwain_> shane2peru: don't know ;o
[09:10] <shane2peru> less windows compatible.
[09:10] <iarwain_> shane2peru: you always learn xD
[09:10] <shane2peru> ok, I'm with ya.  Thanks again.
[09:10] <iarwain_> shane2peru: couldn't help :(
[09:10] <puppyuser2007047> what do u mean by 'CD into the folder'?
[09:11] <shane2peru> iarwain_: I'll still give you an A for effort. :)
[09:11] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: cd Desktop/NameofFOlder
[09:11] <iarwain_> shane2peru: yay! =)
[09:11] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: I assume it has a name
[09:11] <shane2peru> can anyone that is samba savvy help me out?  I followed this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[09:12] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: type Cd Desktop
[09:12] <DaSkreech> cd
[09:12] <DaSkreech> then ls
[09:12] <DaSkreech>  tell me what shows up
[09:12] <puppyuser2007047> this is confusing....u will tell me these 2 moro
[09:12] <puppyuser2007047> mom's up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:12] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: yes
[09:12] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: go to bed
[09:12] <puppyuser2007047> and hell befall on that 'asshole'
[09:13] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: well he made CDs work so..
[09:13] <puppyuser2007047> did he????????????
[09:13] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: and he was stopping anyone else logging into your machine
[09:13] <puppyuser2007047> how do i know??
[09:13] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: when you wake up tomorrow. Go to bed
[09:13] <puppyuser2007047> why did he flee when i asked him the passwd then??
[09:13] <iarwain_> shane2peru: let me try again =) thinking helps
[09:13] <iarwain_> shane2peru: back up your smb.conf
[09:14] <iarwain_> shane2peru: make a new one
[09:14] <shane2peru> ok
[09:14] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i'll post the contents
[09:14] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: he had to go as well. Just log in here tomorrow and ask for help to change your password back
[09:14] <zombielion> DaSkreech: Every time I request install it says under Requested BREAK (install) ?
[09:14] <puppyuser2007047> u r supporting him too much....see his 'quit' statement
[09:15] <shane2peru> iarwain_: ok, it is backed up.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> zombielion: hm
[09:15] <FFForever> when i talk in teamspeak i hear a buzzzzzzz, how do i fix that?
[09:15] <puppyuser2007047> i will see him
[09:15] <shane2peru> iarwain_: and I cleared the slate.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> puppyuser2007047: quite likely
[09:16] <iarwain_> shane2peru: enter this => http://pastebin.ca/581883
[09:16] <DaSkreech> zombielion: ok try install libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:16] <iarwain_> shane2peru: but change it to your path
[09:16] <SlimG3> FFForever: If it's a low buzzzz it's probably just your cheap soundcard :)
[09:17] <shane2peru> iarwain_: ok, it is opening now.
[09:17] <iarwain_> shane2peru: then restart samba, what is opening?
[09:17] <zombielion> DaSkreech: it hasnt been letting me fetch updates really either sametimes it says There was an error downloading updates
[09:17] <cosmodad> how do I change the default video player? I want it to switch from kaffeine to kmplayer
[09:17] <shane2peru> webpage
[09:17] <cosmodad> I looked in the system settings to no avail
[09:17] <zombielion> DaSkreech: nothing came back in search results
[09:17] <DaSkreech> zombielion: does it say from which server?
[09:17] <iarwain_> shane2peru: oh, i thought your server =)
[09:18] <shane2peru> iarwain_:  wow that is a short config file :)
[09:18] <chris_scummette> my second HD is partitionned , how do i mount it?
[09:19] <iarwain_> shane2peru: it's just to make sure your config is okay =) you can add stuff later =)
[09:19] <shane2peru> iarwain_:  ok
[09:19] <cosmodad> chris_scummette: sudo mount -t <file system type, e.g. vfat, ext3> /dev/<partition name> <mount point>
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Hi Lam_
[09:19] <chris_scummette> mount point?
[09:20] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i think it says error in fiesty universe packages it goes so fast i cant read it but i do beleive that is what isnt getting complete. but here a few times it was a pop up that said just error downloading updates
[09:20] <SlimG2> !mount | chris_scummette
[09:20] <ubotu> chris_scummette: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:20] <shane2peru> iarwain_:  ok, got it added
[09:20] <shane2peru> next.
[09:20] <iarwain_> shane2peru: restart samba, and try again =)
[09:21] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Universe ... I guess that shouldn't block anything we are doing
[09:21] <zombielion> DaSkreech: it is us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[09:22] <chris_scummette> ok!
[09:22] <shane2peru> iarwain_:  no it says no available workgroups on my linux box, and on the windows it doesn't show anything either.
[09:22] <zombielion> libxine1-ffmpeg and when i search libxine1-ffmpeg it does have anything
[09:22] <DaSkreech> and there is no libxine1 ?
[09:22] <zombielion> no
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Well that's what gives you Divx
[09:22] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i don't know how to access your windows box from linux though (never did that)
[09:23] <iarwain_> shane2peru: did you search your whole network in windows?
[09:23] <zombielion> how do you think i should go about getting it can i search it  on google and find it
[09:23] <shane2peru> I have done it before, but a while ago.
[09:23] <darkrift411> how do i make my account more administrator like so i can write to other accounts folders?
[09:23] <shane2peru> yes, looked under the My Networks places
[09:23] <DaSkreech> zombielion: you could grab it from packages.ubuntu.com if you are in a hurry
[09:24] <iarwain_> shane2peru: hmm, don't know anymore xD
[09:25] <zombielion> DaSkreech: why would the other say break. well  i am not to much in  a hurry but it is just stressing to me. Is this all the stuff i need to get vlc?
[09:25] <shane2peru> ok, thanks iarwain_  I will keep playing with it and figure it out.  I'll keep working with the config file.
[09:25] <FFForever> where do i tell teamspeak my sound is?
[09:25] <FFForever> /dev/dsp?
[09:25] <DaSkreech> zombielion: no This is to make divx work
[09:25] <illriginal> Does anyone know good tutorials for gimp using images of humans?
[09:25] <chris_scummette> i cant mount my HD
[09:26] <iarwain_> shane2peru: i don't think your config file is wrong (that's why we tried the minimal content). If i were you, i'd try some settings on your windows box ;o
[09:26] <shane2peru> iarwain_  I guess I will have to tinker with it later.  running out of time.  Thanks anyway.
[09:26] <SlimG2> illriginal: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic.php?t=15818&start=1  (googled it)
[09:26] <DaSkreech> zombielion: can you install libmad0 ?
[09:26] <iarwain_> shane2peru: np's =)
[09:27] <darkrift411> anyone?
[09:27] <chris_scummette> ...
[09:27] <iarwain_> darkrift411: just use sudo if you need to do stuff like that (safest way)
[09:27] <darkrift411> i made my wife an account, but i want read/write access to her home folder
[09:27] <chris_scummette> i mounted my Hd and all i got is a "lost and found file" is it normal?
[09:27] <illriginal> Thanks SLimG2... i have been googling around but I'm lookin for enhancements of photos and such.
[09:27] <DaSkreech> darkrift411: sudo -i
[09:28] <amnesiac_> hai cyber phreaks whats up?
[09:28] <iarwain_> darkrift411: try a 'sudo chmod 777 -R folder_of_wife'
[09:28] <DaSkreech> chris_scummette: what should be in there?
[09:28] <chris_scummette> nothing!
[09:28] <chris_scummette> lol
[09:28] <chris_scummette> but theres a lost and found too in my first HD
[09:28] <DaSkreech> chris_scummette: that's right then
[09:28] <darkrift411> will that give everyone write access or just add my account to the list :S
[09:28] <chris_scummette> so i guess its normal
[09:28] <SlimG2> illriginal: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/5179/
[09:28] <chris_scummette> yep
[09:28] <chris_scummette> :)
[09:29] <DaSkreech> darkrift411: just use sudo -i and you should be able to get in
[09:29] <zombielion> DaSkreech: yes  I installed but didnt install the dev one
[09:29] <darkrift411> i can get in
[09:29] <darkrift411> but i was gonna paste a bunch of stuff in konq
[09:29] <DaSkreech> darkrift411: or if you wan't to get in as yourself add your wife's group to your user
[09:30] <darkrift411> that sounds more like what i thought
[09:30] <DaSkreech> darkrift411: ah. kdesu konqueror ~wifename
[09:30] <DaSkreech> zombielion: ok then http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:31] <chris_scummette> cant write on my new HD
[09:31] <chris_scummette> ??
[09:31] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i am there what do i download i386
[09:31] <DaSkreech> zombielion: see where it says download libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Yeah
[09:31] <DaSkreech> in Konqueror you can right click and install
[09:32] <amnesiac_> chris i had the same problem
[09:32] <chris_scummette> no write permission
[09:32] <amnesiac_> your permission is not right
[09:32] <chris_scummette> ok amnesiaxc
[09:32] <chris_scummette> i guess i had to fix this
[09:33] <dale_> Does anyone know any tutorials on how to install falsh on 64bit system?
[09:33] <amnesiac_> try to open with alt f2 konqureror then gange options user root enter password
[09:33] <amnesiac_> then go to /media
[09:33] <dale_>  Does anyone know any tutorials on how to install flash* on 64bit system?
[09:33] <dale_> kubuntu
[09:33] <amnesiac_> then your drive sda1 or sdb1 or 3 you have to look
[09:34] <chris_scummette> its hdb
[09:34] <amnesiac_> not me dale sorry
[09:34] <chris_scummette> :)
[09:34] <DaSkreech> zombielion: hmm can you install libxine1 ?
[09:34] <SlimG2> dale_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[09:34] <amnesiac_> ah ok hdb1 then i think
[09:34] <ScarFreewill> hi DaSkreech
[09:34] <dale_> Thanks
[09:35] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: hi
[09:35] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i do belive the one you told me dl installed
[09:35] <SlimG2> dale_: np, remember google's your friend ;)
[09:35] <DaSkreech> zombielion: that's libxine1-ffmpeg :)
[09:35] <darkrift411> damnit nothing is working
[09:35] <darkrift411> i tried going into user manager
[09:36] <ScarFreewill> so I installed kubuntu on my friend's hdd and I gave it to him now... but he has to add the parameter --noapic or his pc wouldn't boot how can he add it before kubuntu boots?
[09:36] <darkrift411> i wish i could start x as root :@
[09:36] <chris_scummette> amnesiac where do i enter my password?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> ScarFreewill: Does he have it booted already ?
[09:36] <zombielion> DaSkreech: now try libxine-extracodecs ?
[09:36] <amnesiac_> under the username root
[09:36] <SlimG2> ScarFreewill: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <DaSkreech> zombielion: You installed libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[09:37] <zombielion> yes
[09:37] <ScarFreewill> SlimG2: any Idea how he can edit it? he needs to get into linux first right?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> open kaffiene and see if it plays your files
[09:37] <chris_scummette> ???? amnesiac
[09:38] <amnesiac_> yes chris??
[09:38] <|Dylan|> hey all
[09:38] <chris_scummette> i didnt understand
[09:38] <amnesiac_> hey dylan
[09:38] <SlimG2> ScarFreewill: He can temporarily add the parameter by pressing E in the bootmenu and add the parameter at the end of the linux boot line
[09:38] <amnesiac_> ok again chris
[09:38] <chris_scummette> :)
[09:38] <DaSkreech> zombielion: yes? no?
[09:38] <ScarFreewill> SlimG2: cool I'll tell him..
[09:38] <amnesiac_> open with alt f2 the command
[09:39] <chris_scummette> yep
[09:39] <zombielion> DaSkreech: yes thank you
[09:39] <amnesiac_> then enter the filebrowsers name konquror
[09:39] <chris_scummette> lol ok
[09:39] <chris_scummette> and then
[09:40] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Enjoy :) hopefully when the servers resolve you can just install ibxine-extracodecs and get even more codecs
[09:40] <|Dylan|> does any1 know what (k)ubuntu uses instead of inittab?  I know it has init.d, but im trying to configure runit frmo the apt repos, and its returning errors from lack of an inittab file.  i could touch it, but i assume i should modify the script to point to the correct file--if i can find it
[09:40] <amnesiac_> spell it rhight :)
[09:40] <amnesiac_> then alt o
[09:40] <amnesiac_> then alt u
[09:40] <zombielion> DaSkreech: now i dont have to try and download vlc?
[09:40] <amnesiac_> or just the button option
[09:40] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i just got the extra codecs
[09:40] <chris_scummette> i dont hav this
[09:40] <amnesiac_> sorry i am a key bord freak hate the mouse
[09:41] <chris_scummette> i dont have "options"
[09:41] <amnesiac_> ther have to be options
[09:41] <kronos91> ciao
[09:41] <vic> salvea  tutti
[09:41] <|Dylan|> cya
[09:41] <SlimG2> !w32codecs | zombielion
[09:41] <ubotu> zombielion: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:42] <amnesiac_> i will try to send you a screen shot
[09:42] <SlimG2> !libdvdcss | zombielion
[09:42] <ubotu> zombielion: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:42] <|Dylan|> !inittab
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <|Dylan|> does anyone here know if ubuntu will read an inittab file if it exists?
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hellp
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hekko
[09:44] <Lacrymology> damnit
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hellp
[09:44] <Lacrymology> argh
[09:44] <Lacrymology> argh
[09:44] <Lacrymology> ok
[09:44] <Lacrymology> now
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hello!
[09:44] <root__> how can I reinstall gdm and all its configuration?
[09:44] <Lacrymology> I want to pimp up my desktop, and I want some help with this... should I go to #kde?
[09:44] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: There might be something here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292507
[09:45] <|Dylan|> thx!
[09:45] <Lacrymology> root__: don't log into irc as root, it's insecure
[09:45] <root__> i keep getting: gdmgreeter The accessibility registry was not found.
[09:45] <Lacrymology> root__: at the very least change your nick so we don't know
[09:46] <zombielion> ok i opened those links and i will look at them. i just have one more question will win programs work using wine completely and when it asked like in windows to install the program is that ok. how do i unistall it if i am done using it. i noticed in linux there isnt like a c: drive or anything or add remove all programs you know
[09:47] <SlimG2> !wine | zombielion
[09:47] <ubotu> zombielion: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:47] <cugel> There _is_ a c drive.
[09:49] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: how should i proceed in configuring my runit?  error log:
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Setting up runit (1.6.0-1) ...
[09:49] <|Dylan|> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[09:49] <|Dylan|> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Adding SV inittab entry...
[09:49] <|Dylan|> cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory
[09:49] <zombielion> ok thank you for helping i will go and look at this stuff. i am just having problems migrating to linux. i dont have win any more i lost my cd and kubuntu is free and it looks somewhat easy enough
[09:49] <|Dylan|> dpkg: error processing runit (--configure):
[09:49] <|Dylan|>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:49] <|Dylan|>  runit
[09:49] <darkrift411> ok
[09:49] <darkrift411> i mae a group for my wife, and i added my self to her group
[09:50] <darkrift411> then i changed permissions on her home folder to be in her group, not users.... then i set it so that group can read and write
[09:50] <darkrift411> but i still cant do anything
[09:50] <chris_scummette> admin problems ^
[09:50] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i have one more questiong sorry will all those things i downloaded that iwll let me play divx and xvid right?
[09:51] <darkrift411> should i add myself to the group root
[09:51] <darkrift411> lol
[09:51] <darkrift411> or would taht be the same as logging in as root
[09:52] <SlimG2> !who |  zombielion
[09:52] <ubotu> zombielion: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[09:53] <zombielion> oh sorry
[09:53] <darkrift411> nvm
[09:53] <darkrift411> sudo konqueror worked :)
[09:53] <chris_scummette> You do not have sufficient access to write to /media/Maxtor/.directory.
[09:53] <chris_scummette> WTF
[09:54] <cugel> Maybe it's full?
[09:54] <chris_scummette> sudo konqeror for me too w<orked
[09:54] <chris_scummette> amzing
[09:55] <_4strO> !fdesu
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdesu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <zombielion> libxine1-ffmpeg, libmad0, libxine-extracodecs I installed these will they let me watch divx and xvid in kaffine or will i need vlc and how do i install that
[09:55] <_4strO> !kdesu
[09:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:55] <SlimG2> darkrift411: You could add yourself to the sudo group, then you won't have enter your password each time you run sudo or kdesu, but anyone stealing your account would also gain the same ability :P
[09:55] <crowbar> This gets me all the time.   I open a file to edit in /etc forgetting to use sudo so I can't save it.  Is there any way to save the file without quitting vi and entering with sudo?
[09:56] <basse> you can save under another name ofcourse
[09:56] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: im sorry to keep bugging you, but how should i proceed with my runit configure?  should i create inittab or modify the script (already have it open in kate), and what should i change the inittab lines to if i should change the script?
[09:56] <SlimG2> zombielion: If you have these three packages you won't need anything else afaik: w32codecs libdvdcss libxine-extracodecs
[09:56] <crowbar> I was hoping more of a privilege escalation somehow inside vim.  Saving ot my home directory and then copying over isn't so nice.
[09:58] <basse> crowbar: hmmh.. maybe complicated shell command from vim yes.. but i think it's best just to remember doing sudo :)
[09:58] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: I don't know anything about runit myself, just googeled an answer for you, don't be sorry for asking ;)
[09:58] <chris_scummette> whycant i place the icons like i want to on my desktop?
[09:58] <crowbar> basse: yeah yeah i know.   Woudl be nice for that 1  out of 10 times I open a file to be able to save it without exiting.  :)
[09:59] <basse> i've been there myself :)
[09:59] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: its strange that runit on from the ubuntu repo isnt configured correctly for my feisty...id assume i can touch inittab and it should still run the upstart system after reading inittab, but if it doesnt i could be in a bit of a jam.
[10:00] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: I still don't know anything about runit, try asking someone else
[10:01] <|Dylan|> hehe ok, sry
[10:01] <|Dylan|> does anyone else know?  :)
[10:01] <basse> crowbar: luckily i'm quite manic with doing save.. so i notice quite early :)
[10:01] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: Don't be sorry ;)
[10:01] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: sorry ;)
[10:01] <crowbar> basse: I get the most aggrevated when i open a file for a 1 character change and end up spending more time trying to figure out why the thing didn't quit than i did editting it.
[10:01] <|Dylan|> ^.6
[10:02] <basse> crowbar: i've said it here before, but i dont especially like the whole sudo thing at all.. my sons machine is running kubuntu, i myself run debian, because i like my root account
[10:03] <basse> i dont see any good side of having sudo ;) but, that's just me.
[10:03] <|Dylan|> basse: im sure you know this already, but just in case, you can use sudo passwd root to set up the root account
[10:03] <trpr> basse: i know they say not to do this, but if you want to enable root all you need to do is passwd the account
[10:04] <basse> |Dylan|: i know.. it's still little bit tricky at time under ubuntu/kubuntu.. though.
[10:04] <|Dylan|> basse: i suppose, yes
[10:04] <basse> yep. some of the things are covered more deeply. like "kdesu"
[10:05] <basse> hmh, bad word choices.. i meant they dont work like in default kde.
[10:12] <kevin|larson> im currently running of the kubuntu install disk, and my mouse isnt working
[10:12] <kevin|larson> has this happened to anyone?
[10:12] <cugel> At least your keyboard's working.
[10:12] <kevin|larson> im using the numpad but its getting very tiring
[10:13] <kevin|larson> i also was wondering if /dev is supposed to be empty, because i had wanted to make a backup of the desktop before i installed kubuntu
[10:14] <kevin|larson> and its dificult to do without device nodes
[10:16] <darkrift411> i got this cool wallpaper with a stormy bliss landscape with sun shining thru the clouds making the windows symbol on the grass.... i wish someone could change the windows symbol to either a penguin or the kubuntu symbol......
[10:16] <benbread> Hey i'm trying to install Kubuntu (feisty) on my rather troublesome laptop, but on hard drive format it errors - gparted says the disk is busy. does anyone know how i can fix this? :|
[10:16] <darkrift411> would look even better :)
[10:16] <darkrift411> thats odd
[10:17] <darkrift411> try fdisk from command line without anything runnign
[10:17] <kevin|larson> benbread: cfdisk too
[10:17] <darkrift411> unless you are resizing
[10:17] <darkrift411> in that case, i dont know :S
[10:17] <kevin|larson> -f ?
[10:18] <SlimG2> kevin|larson: What system are you running on?
[10:18] <jhutchins> benbread: You'll probably need the alternative install CD if you're going to format/partition manually.
[10:18] <benbread> darkrift411: I can format the whole disk, i'm running debian on here at the mo, but i'm switching to kubuntu mostly because i like it better and my other laptop runs it (though my music server runs debian :P)
[10:18] <darkrift411> so where is the problem occuring
[10:18] <benbread> jhutchins: is there any way i can install kubuntu without running as a live cd, it's really rather slow! :P
[10:18] <darkrift411> i didnt use it
[10:19] <darkrift411> in grub, i selected install
[10:19] <darkrift411> 2nd option i think
[10:19] <jhutchins> benbread: Yeah, the alternative CD will do that.
[10:19] <darkrift411> i just found out i can do console commands in xchat..... wow
[10:19] <t1g3r> hi all
[10:19] <kevin|larson> Slimg2 an x86 (amd xp)
[10:19] <benbread> jhutchins: Alternate cd it is, thanks everyone!
[10:20] <darkrift411> good luck
[10:20] <t1g3r> having troubles with a fresh kubuntu install
[10:20] <SlimG2> kevin|larson: laptop? desktop? make? modell?
[10:20] <t1g3r> acer 2420 travelmate laptop
[10:20] <kevin|larson> SlimG2: desktop, homemade
[10:20] <t1g3r> 1.7ghz 512mb no gfx card
[10:20] <darkrift411> i wonder why microsoft doesnt have an irc chat like this..... probably couldnt hire enough ppl to fix all of the problems ppl would run into
[10:21] <t1g3r> or they cudnt be bothered
[10:21] <darkrift411> lol
[10:21] <jhutchins> darkrift411: ##windows
[10:21] <darkrift411> ##windows
[10:21] <t1g3r> they wanna get revenue from ppl calling in techy call centres instead
[10:21] <darkrift411> ack
[10:21] <darkrift411> /join ##windows
[10:21] <darkrift411> wtf'
[10:21] <t1g3r> bah windows, just melted my laptop, had a dual boot system, just going all ubuntu now
[10:22] <darkrift411> thats funny
[10:22] <t1g3r> right now it only let me do a text based install tho, so im all in command line here on the lappy
[10:22] <t1g3r> so wondering whats the next step
[10:22] <darkrift411> i could have sent many ppl there if id known about it
[10:23] <t1g3r> any idea what is hould do if i run the option on the cd to check for defects and i get a bright red screen with errors on it?
[10:24] <darkrift411> darkrift411's Uptime: 13:24:37 up 6 days, 10:13,  2 users,  load average: 3.07, 3.00, 3.06
[10:24] <darkrift411> not bad for a laptop :)
[10:25] <xst> When I perform an ssh login to a local host on the lan (directly to the IP), the ssh client waits for several seconds before it shows me the password prompt. How can I fix this?
[10:25] <funkiwan> I'm having trouble with mdadm raid0 on my swap partition after upgrading to feisty. It's currently in "State : clean, Not Started" and I'm not sure how to start it
[10:25] <jhutchins> xst: How is the sshd running on the server?  As a daemon or via xinet?
[10:26] <jhutchins> t1g3r: Sounds like a bad CD.
[10:26] <gentoofan23> !windows
[10:26] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:26] <t1g3r> sigh
[10:26] <xst> jhutchins: it runs as sshd
[10:26] <t1g3r> took me a damn day to download the thing, im almost on dialup speed here
[10:26] <t1g3r>  :((
[10:26] <xst> jhutchins: and is started from /etc/init.d/
[10:26] <jhutchins> xst: Then it's most likely just a slow system generating the keys.
[10:27] <funkiwan> Can anyone help with an mdadm question?
[10:27] <xst> jhutchins: It is fast as lightning if I connect to a domain name, but IP-only on the LAN is slow.
[10:29] <ManiDhillon> hello
[10:29] <ManiDhillon> !apt-get update
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <ManiDhillon> !adept
[10:35] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:35] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i install amarok 146 ?
[10:35] <jhutchins> xst: You'll need to delve into the inner workings of openssh to solve that one.
[10:35] <xst> jhutchins: It worked fine in edgy
[10:38] <darkrift411> i keep seeing all these widget like apps on ppls linux screenshots, but havent found what tey are
[10:38] <darkrift411> i saw soem good sys info ones and a weather one (almost like vista, but usefull and prob dont use 500mb of ram)
[10:39] <pvandewyngaerde> superkaramba
[10:39] <darkrift411> i c
[10:41] <vecina> How come kwin and network manager arent iun my syetem bar anymore? they seem to prefer being windows in my desktop
[10:42] <Ambientmstr> Can anyone help me get the borders around my windows? I added those addARGBLXVisuals" and the other codes to my xorg.conf, restarted x, but to no avail. Help please? Kubuntu Feisty user btw.
[10:43] <PhinnFort> will there be updated amarok packages available somewhere soon?
[10:43] <pvandewyngaerde> PhinnFort: im waiting too
[10:43] <PhinnFort> let's wait together, then;)
[10:45] <lsabalo> I join to the wait :-)
[10:45] <vm> quit
[10:45] <PhinnFort> there's probably a build-server busy somewhere compiling it right now as we speak
[10:46] <vm> quit
[10:46] <vm> Quit
[10:46] <PhinnFort> vm: try a /quit instead
[10:46] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:46] <Ambientmstr> Can anyone help me get the borders around my windows? I added those addARGBLXVisuals" and the other codes to my xorg.conf, restarted x, but to no avail. Help please? Kubuntu Feisty user btw.
[10:47] <PhinnFort> hehe
[10:47] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: Beryl?
[10:47] <PhinnFort> !beryl | Ambientmstr
[10:47] <ubotu> Ambientmstr: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:48] <Ambientmstr> I am in Ubuntu-effects and have been for 15 min before comin here
[10:48] <PhinnFort> argh... removed the hide menubar options
[10:48] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: well, don't use experimental software, then
[10:48] <Ambientmstr> It worked last time.
[10:49] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: you need to run a window manager to get borders on windows
[10:49] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running one
[10:49] <PhinnFort> like emerald, aquamarine or heliodor
[10:50] <Ambientmstr> It was running Emerald
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: well, it doesn't seem to work, does it?;)
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running "emerald" in a console
[10:51] <PhinnFort> see why it fails
[10:51] <bjwebb> hi does kubuntu have the Restricted Drivers Manager
[10:51] <Ambientmstr> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[10:52] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try "emerald --replace" or something similar
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Major opcode:  147
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> Failed to open device
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Major opcode:  147
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> Failed to open device
[10:52] <chris_scummette> !french
[10:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: that's nothing to worry about
[10:53] <bjwebb> hello, can someone help?
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> If you insist.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: did you get stuff nwo?
[10:53] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: not if you don't tell us what the problem is
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> Nope, still borderless.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running aquamarine
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> Which is a pity. Cause everything else works like a charm.
[10:54] <bjwebb> well its freezing 3D acceleration
[10:54] <bjwebb> i think my cards semi-supported
[10:54] <bjwebb> so, does kubuntu have the Restricted Drivers Manager
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: I don't think so, not in the same way as Ubuntu/Gnome, anyways
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: what kind of card do you have?
[10:55] <bjwebb> Radeon
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: ...
[10:55] <PhinnFort> new/old?
[10:56] <bjwebb> quite new
[10:56] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: install fglrx
[10:56] <PhinnFort> !find fglrx
[10:56] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[10:56] <PhinnFort> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:56] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.34.8+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 5998 kB, installed size 17224 kB
[10:57] <bob_> talking about 3D acceleration, do you guys have an ETA of the nvidia-glx-new upgrade?
[10:57] <bob_> my card would not qork fine with the actual one
[10:57] <bob_> work*
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[10:58] <bjwebb> kubuntu doesn't have that by default does it?
[10:58] <bob_> i needed to install the one from their website
[10:58] <bjwebb> how do i find out if it is already installed
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: it's not legal to distribute with the kernel
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: use adept manager
[10:58] <bjwebb> okay
[10:59] <Ambientmstr> PhinnFort: When I try aquamarine it says found not compatible windows manager, waiting...
[11:00] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: did you run aquamarine --replace?
[11:00] <Graham> 'lo
[11:00] <Ambientmstr> Yes
[11:00] <Ambientmstr> That gave me the failed to replace again
[11:01] <pvandewyngaerde> sudo ?
[11:01] <Misterfixit> Wow! There are a LOT of ppl using *buntu ...
[11:01] <aleksanteri> Misterfixit: and there are even more ppl out there
[11:02] <Misterfixit> I just finished changing over from Fedora
[11:02] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: i think there's around a million or something?
[11:02] <Graham> Misterfixit: Something like that, a freakin lot.
[11:02] <Misterfixit> Started with the last RH and went all the way to Fedora 7.  Built this new box ... I really like this distro
[11:02] <PhinnFort> make that 8 million
[11:03] <PhinnFort> http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/ubuntu-now-has-over-8-millions-users/
[11:03] <PhinnFort> whoops, that was last year, and we're still growing;)
[11:04] <Misterfixit> I'm pretty impressed so far.  I only have had to drop down to root term a couple of times so far
[11:04] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: when was that?
[11:04] <Ambientmstr> I envy your experience
[11:04] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: I think there's somewhere in the wiki you can write down where you have to use the terminal, and some devs will look into it
[11:05] <Misterfixit> Let's see, when I was trying to install the NVIDIA driver for my GeForce 6200 Card.
[11:05] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: what went wrong?
[11:06] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: it shouldn't be harder than installing and configuring using the system settings configuration thingy
[11:06] <Misterfixit> I used the nvidia-glx-config enable line without any luck -- msg back that it didn't exit.  So, I tried a couple of other config things.  Still no luck on the nvidia card but I have great resolution anyway
[11:06] <eguzkia> hello someone can help with my nvidia driver?
[11:07] <eguzkia> i cannot install 3d driver
[11:07] <PhinnFort> !nvidia
[11:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:07] <Misterfixit> Oh, I remember now, Frostwire couldn't find the java package.  Same problem that Limewire had too ...
[11:07] <PhinnFort> !java | Misterfixit
[11:07] <ubotu> Misterfixit: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:07] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:08] <PhinnFort> *cough* http://spread.kde.org/ rebirthed*cough*
[11:08] <Misterfixit> Ubotu .. thanks for the pointers.  I figured it would be easier to go into the frostwire.sh script and just change the place where it was looking for java .... that worked (just like it did for Limewire)
[11:08] <eguzkia> i have problem to instnvia driver
[11:08] <eguzkia> someone here know how to install nia driver?
[11:08] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: it's a bot;)
[11:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: follow the link provided to you;)
[11:09] <PhinnFort> !nvidia | eguzkia
[11:09] <ubotu> eguzkia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[11:09] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:09] <Misterfixit> Wow ubotu .. you are pretty smart with your parsing algorythim
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> lol
[11:09] <PhinnFort> !attack nosrednaekim
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> there is a compliment for a robot.
[11:09] <PhinnFort> hrm... I prefer apt in #kde;)
[11:09] <Misterfixit> I know ...
[11:09] <Misterfixit> it missed "algorythim" because I didn't spell it right
[11:10] <PhinnFort> isn't that a nerdcore "band"?
[11:10] <PhinnFort> algorythms?
[11:10] <ardchoille> Misterfixit: Don't worry, I still have trouble remembering how to spell that word.
[11:10] <Misterfixit> Algorythm
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> I don't think there is a y
[11:10] <ardchoille> algorithm
[11:11] <Misterfixit> Well, I think that native English speakers always would want to place that "i" sound before the m and after the h
[11:11] <Misterfixit> Yeah, "i" ... dude!  what he said!
[11:11] <ardchoille> Misterfixit: Yeah
[11:11] <PhinnFort> f b
[11:11] <PhinnFort> i
[11:12] <Aattila> Hi! I' ve just tried to install skype but there was an error and now I get: "unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" what should I do?
[11:12] <Misterfixit> OK, I am going back to work but I am glad to have found this channel and, of course, "my little friend" ubotu ... eh? Say Hello to My Little Friend!
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !dpkgfix
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !aptfix
[11:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !aptfix | Aattila
[11:12] <ubotu> Aattila: please see above
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !hi | Misterfixit
[11:12] <ubotu> Misterfixit: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:13] <Misterfixit> !Hello
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <PhinnFort> !help > Misterfixit
[11:13] <Misterfixit> Oops
[11:13] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:13] <Misterfixit> see you all later ...
[11:13] <PhinnFort> see you
[11:15] <Aattila> PhinnFort, ubotu: thank you!
[11:16] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[11:16] <PhinnFort> Aattila: ubotu is an automated bot, btw
[11:16] <thev> Hi.  I'm missing my Monitor & Display module.  Anyone know how I can install it?
[11:16] <PhinnFort> !info guidance-kde
[11:16] <ubotu> Package guidance-kde does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:17] <PhinnFort> !info kde-guidance | thev
[11:17] <ubotu> thev: kde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 956 kB, installed size 3884 kB
[11:17] <PhinnFort> I think that's it
[11:17] <thev> thanks, I'll try installing that
[11:17] <PhinnFort> you switched from normal ubuntu?
[11:18] <thev> hrmm... I don't think that's it -it's installed already
[11:19] <thev> yes.  Installed KDE on Ubuntu
[11:20] <PhinnFort> everything isn't installed as it should be when you do that for some weird reason :S
[11:21] <Pupeno> After moving my mails to Evolution and back to Kontact I have a lot of duplicated emails. Kontact's remove duplicated email worked for lots of them, but there are a lot with very small differences... like X-Status. Any ideas how to clean that up?
[11:21] <thev> yeah.  I noticed.  I think I will reinstall kubuntu straight up.
[11:21] <thev> ./home is on a different partition, so I should be able to save all my settings
[11:24] <antonio_> hey
[11:24] <antonio_> someone know how I can change the size of subtitles in Kaffeine?
[11:25] <PhinnFort> antonio_: looked in the settings thingy?
[11:25] <PhinnFort> should be under "subtitles"
[11:25] <antonio_> there isn't
[11:25] <antonio_> u can change only the file of subtitles
[11:25] <not-Timmay> question:     is it possible to use bluefish and work on files on a web server?
[11:25] <antonio_> not the size or character like in vlc
[11:26] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: dunno, it's a gnome app isn't it?
[11:26] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: Kate works perfectly
[11:26] <not-Timmay> kate makes it so i can edit php files on a remote server?
[11:27] <antonio_> so nobody knows thank u anyway
[11:27] <PhinnFort> antonio_: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde7.png
[11:27] <antonio_> I will install vlc :-(
[11:27] <PhinnFort> antonio_: it's right there in your fracking face;)
[11:27] <antonio_> thanks a lot
[11:27] <antonio_> I think I have to install xine-motoren or someting like that
[11:27] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: Kate is a KDE based text editor, so you can edit files over whatever protocol there's a kio-slave for
[11:28] <PhinnFort> antonio_: what engine do you use?
[11:28] <antonio_> kaffeine-xine
[11:28] <PhinnFort> and you don't have the same options in the settings?
[11:28] <ldb> i am using nvidia twin view, and i would like to switch my primary display with my secondary display (my kde desktop is on my secondary display)
[11:29] <antonio_> but when I click on "xine-motoren" it doesn't work
[11:29] <antonio_> maybe I miss something
[11:29] <antonio_> thank u a lot
[11:30] <PhinnFort> antonio_: Settings -> Playback engine -> Kaffieine Xine?
[11:30] <antonio_> ok
[11:30] <antonio_> now it works
[11:30] <antonio_> thank u a lot
[11:31] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: oh yea...duh kate....no no, i like using bluefish because it is a web page editor basically
[11:31] <antonio_> someting wrong on my hard disk maybe it's damaged
[11:31] <antonio_> so I have strange error about I/O when I works
[11:31] <antonio_> :-(
[11:31] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: so is Kate, and a Python editor, and a C++-editor, and everything else i need
[11:31] <antonio_> thank u
[11:31] <PhinnFort> antonio_: can you run "dmesg | tail" in a console?
[11:31] <ldb> oh wait, nevermind, i just dragged the kde task bar to my other monitor, duh
[11:31] <PhinnFort> ldb: :P
[11:32] <PhinnFort> simplicity ftw
[11:32] <ldb> haha
[11:32] <ldb> problem solved
[11:32] <antonio_> Phinfort I did it
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: can you paste what it said into #flood ?
[11:33] <franco> yeah
[11:33] <antonio_> #flood
[11:33] <PhinnFort> yeah?
[11:33] <antonio_> what's flood?
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: it's a channel
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: on freenode, where you can paste texts, etc, so you don't flood other channels
[11:34] <antonio_> oh I tried a private message
[11:34] <antonio_> sorry
[11:34] <antonio_> :-(
[11:34] <ldb> are there any gui tools for setting up your /etc/fstab?
[11:35] <PhinnFort> ldb: looked in system settings?
[11:35] <bjwebb> okay, so i tried installing the frglx driver, but now ive lost my graphical display
[11:35] <PhinnFort> ldb: disks and filesystems?
[11:35] <ldb> im there now
[11:36] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: did you run that other command I gave you?
[11:36] <bjwebb> nope
[11:36] <PhinnFort> [22:58]  <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[11:36] <antonio_> thank u PhinnFort don't worry I'm newbie on IRC :-) and linux too
[11:36] <bjwebb> i tried adding it through the kde settings manager
[11:36] <antonio_> bye and thank u
[11:36] <ldb> basically just wanna add a cifs network share
[11:36] <Goliath23> hi. are there kubuntu packages for amarok 1.4.6 yet?
[11:36] <bjwebb> changed the "free" settings on my graphic card to propeitary
[11:36] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: no
[11:37] <bjwebb> what can i do now?
[11:37] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: watch kubuntu.org
[11:37] <ldb> oh wow, this is nice
[11:37] <PhinnFort> !xorg
[11:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <Goliath23> PhinnFort: ok, compile then :)
[11:37] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: or wait for the poor packagers to compile it;)
[11:37] <Goliath23> hehe
[11:37] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: but bluefish has pretty colors LOL
[11:37] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: so has Kate
[11:37] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: and auto-completion, built-in console, etc.
[11:37] <bjwebb> its running, but my screen won't display it
[11:38] <Nuked> I used qt4-qtconfig to set a qt theme, But I want to set it back to what it was, and I dont see the option there to do it. any help would be appreciated.
[11:38] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: do you see anything?
[11:38] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: do you get a console to log into?
[11:38] <bjwebb> on ctrl+alt+f7 i get a message from my monitor
[11:38] <bjwebb> "cannot display this video mode"
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: is it "graphical"?
[11:39] <bjwebb> i used ctrl+alt to find my terminal, which apparently still work, propably because they're not as advanced
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: they don't use the ATI drivers
[11:39] <bjwebb> thought it was like that
[11:39] <bjwebb> but the message is from my monitor
[11:39] <bjwebb> i don't actually recieve anything from linux
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: log into a text-terminal, and then do "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ."
[11:40] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[11:40] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: should auto-detect necessary settings
[11:40] <Goliath23> huh, did adept change back to the line-based "manage sources" or is my adept outdated? where is this cute dialog that seperated "third party" sources from official ones?
[11:40] <PhinnFort> then run the other command
[11:40] <bjwebb> okay so ive done that
[11:41] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: kdm restared too?
[11:41] <bjwebb> not yet
[11:41] <bjwebb> it has now
[11:41] <bjwebb> thanks
[11:42] <Nuked> no idea how to revert to original qt theme?
[11:42] <bjwebb> so has that reverted to the original drivers?
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: but to use the new drivers, run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: yes, temporarily
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: you currently run without a config file, so it autodetects all settings everytime it starts
[11:43] <bjwebb> ok
[11:43] <bjwebb> could you repeat that command in a sec once i start graphical IRC
[11:43] <PhinnFort> yup
[11:44] <bjwebb_> hi
[11:44] <PhinnFort> kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg"
[11:44] <bjwebb_> thanks
[11:45] <PhinnFort> hit alt+f2 and paste it in
[11:45] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: hey did you know kate works just like bluefish?!?! why didn't you just tell me that in the first place? *.* hehe thanks :)
[11:45] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[11:45] <bjwebb_> my keyboards screwed up, but i guess thats my fault
[11:45] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: yw;)
[11:45] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: I've never tried BlueFish before
[11:45] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: that's because you don't have a config file to set it in
[11:45] <bjwebb_> i know
[11:45] <not-Timmay> it's pretty nice, but basically the same as kate when you configure it
[11:45] <bjwebb_> because i mucked it up in the first place
[11:46] <bjwebb_> does that command need the quotes in?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> yeah
[11:46] <not-Timmay> is there a way to get the line numbers on the left of the text?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: f9, i think
[11:46] <PhinnFort> no, f11
[11:46] <not-Timmay> awesome!
[11:47] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:47] <not-Timmay> so how do i work on the remote file?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: select open file, and type in the url
[11:47] <PhinnFort> ftp://servernameblalba
[11:48] <PhinnFort> alternatively, ftp://username@server
[11:48] <PhinnFort> or, if you don't have ftp, but only ssh, try fish://server
[11:48] <bjwebb_> it asks me to select a package to reconfigure
[11:48] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: you copied the whole command?
[11:48] <bjwebb_> yes
[11:48] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: select the xserver-xorg package if you find it
[11:49] <[Al] chemist_ex> i have my panel on autohide, periodically is doesn't come back.  Very annoying.  Anyone know a way to reset? So annoying.
[11:49] <jontec> http://pastie.caboo.se/72490, I need to know what packages correspond to these shared libraries
[11:49] <bjwebb_> it won't let me select anything
[11:49] <Alonea> why is wpa so screwy on here? My internet times out all the time.
[11:50] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: Hit alt+f2 typed in >> kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" <<, hit enter?
[11:50] <bjwebb_> ive got it up now
[11:51] <PhinnFort> select the fglrx driver
[11:51] <PhinnFort> from the drop-down list
[11:51] <bjwebb_> oaky
[11:51] <bjwebb_> do i need to change the identifier?
[11:51] <PhinnFort> no
[11:52] <bjwebb_> do i need to specify amount of memory?
[11:52] <PhinnFort> nope
[11:52] <PhinnFort> the defaults are normally okay
[11:53] <bjwebb_> should i use framebuffer?
[11:53] <PhinnFort> just keep the default
[11:53] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: afterwords, when you reboot and everything works, you can finetune it with "fglrx-control"
[11:53] <PhinnFort> !info fglrx-control | bjwebb_
[11:53] <ubotu> bjwebb_: fglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.34.8+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 344 kB
[11:55] <jontec> realplayer is a pain in the... well, I'm on amd64. I just installed the .bin file provided by www.real.com/linux. It installed fine, but I can't get it to actually open
[11:55] <PhinnFort> jontec: don't use it then
[11:55] <jontec> PhinnFort: VLC can't play it with codecs, etc. there's no alternative, I've tried.
[11:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: I'll go to bed now, but you should be fine from now on
[11:55] <PhinnFort> jontec: realplayer should install codecs that vlc et al can use
[11:56] <PhinnFort> at least mplayer
[11:56] <UbunutuNuubu> Anyone want to hold someones hand on their very first walk in a Linux based OS?
[11:57] <eagles0513875> there si a serious flaw in gaim
[11:57] <UbunutuNuubu> Well, not hold hand per se, just answer one very noobish question
[11:57] <jontec> PhinnFort: no dice. mplayer and vlc both work just as before
[11:57] <eagles0513875> is there a gaim channel
[11:58] <jontec> I need help installing realplayer. I've installed the .bin file, but realplayer won't open. (amd64 + feisty)
[11:58] <Minataku> eagles0513875: There isn't even a GAIM anymore
[11:58] <Minataku> You'll have to talk to the Ubuntu maintainers of it
[11:58] <jontec> UbunutuNuubu: ask the question and someone might answer :D
[11:58] <Minataku> It'll have to be patched
[11:58] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:59] <eagles0513875> where can i talk to the maintainers
[11:59] <UbunutuNuubu> thankysai
[11:59] <eagles0513875> !pidgin
[11:59] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[11:59] <Minataku> Best bet in that case is either #ubuntu or their email
[11:59] <Minataku> eagles0513875: Apparantly, adding Pidgin to Feisty would break everything
[11:59] <UbunutuNuubu> I'm booting off of the CD, is there anyway I can try out compiz before an install?
[11:59] <Minataku> Such is the price of simplicity
[12:00] <eagles0513875> really how so
[12:00] <Minataku> eagles0513875: I dunno
[12:00] <Minataku> I've heard it has some major change in it
[12:01] <Minataku> And for distros designed to "just work", major changes are bad and therefore not made mid-release
[12:01] <Minataku> Which is why you're stuck waiting for gutsy or trying to install it yourself or whatever
[12:01] <Minataku> I don't use any IM crap so I don't know
[12:02] <eagles0513875> i can download the pidgin source code u still thik it will break everything
[12:03] <Minataku> eagles0513875: I don't know anything about the whole mess
[12:03] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[12:03] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[12:03] <eagles0513875> ill leave these questions for the pidgin channel lol
[12:03] <eagles0513875> its ok dude
[12:03] <Minataku> ^^
[12:03] <UbunutuNuubu> Is there anything I could do while booted off of the Kubuntu CD that would break my Windows installation?
[12:04] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Yes
[12:04] <eagles0513875> min fyi i asked in that channel and they said the source code would work fine
[12:04] <Minataku> But you'd have to explicitly type them in
[12:04] <Alonea_> how do you get rid of your ghost on irc?
[12:04] <Minataku> eagles0513875: Worth a shot
[12:04] <Minataku> You'll need all the build tools, though
[12:04] <Minataku> !compile
[12:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:04] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Installing relevant pakages for Compiz.... will that harm anything?
[12:05] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: No
[12:05] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Thank you ^-^
[12:05] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Normal use of the LiveCD won't break anything
[12:05] <Minataku> You CAN break things with it, but you have to want to
[12:05] <Minataku> If you don't want to, then you won't. :3
[12:06] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Okay, good! I know nothing of how to use the terminal... so was a little worried. I'm excited to learn all of this.
[12:06] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Good to hear
[12:06] <Minataku> Hopefully someday in the future you'll be tearing down that Windows installation
[12:06] <Minataku> :D
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> That's the plan!! I am SICK of it
[12:07] <Minataku> Heh, so was I. :3
[12:07] <Minataku> For example, this:
[12:07] <Minataku>  18:06:16 up 102 days, 13:32,  6 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.12, 0.10
[12:07] <Minataku> Not possible in Windows at all
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> LOL
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> Any sites you could recommend so I could read up on the terminal, and pretty much the basics of how a Linux based OS is operated?
[12:08] <Minataku> Still running as smooth and stable as she was when the uptime was 0:01
[12:08] <Alonea> if anyone had answered any of my questions earlier, I didn't get them. I had to restart so I could switch to wired (dunno why I have to restart to do that, but I do)
[12:08] <Minataku> !cli
[12:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:08] <Minataku> There ya go, that should give you the basics
[12:08] <Minataku> After that, just Google around some
[12:08] <Minataku> Also remember to read the manual and info pages
[12:08] <UbunutuNuubu> Thanks a bunch everyone ^^
[12:08] <Minataku> Linux is full of online help resources
[12:08] <Minataku> Online as in on your system
[12:09] <Minataku> Rather, online as in not printed
[12:09] <omega> Hi.
[12:09] <omega> I just installed Kubuntu.
[12:09] <UbunutuNuubu> I've noticed, heh. And unlike in XP, help actually works rather than crashing the system....
[12:09] <Minataku> Though there are internet help resources too, of course. :3
[12:09] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Indeed
[12:09] <omega> How do I turn off the bouncing icon that trails my cursor every time I launch something?
[12:09] <omega> I can't find it in the System Settings.
[12:09] <Minataku> omega: It should be in there somewhere
[12:10] <ldb> wow, im impressed how easy it was to add mp3 support to amarok in kubuntu
[12:10] <Minataku> Or someplace else system-related
[12:10] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm not sure
[12:10] <Minataku> I don't use KDE... or Kubuntu for that matter
[12:10] <Minataku> I just help out here for Linux-based issues
[12:10] <Alonea> ok, so, why is wpa so messed up, is there any defragging apps for harddrives of most types and file systems, and why do you have to restart your computer to switch to a wired connection?
[12:11] <Minataku> WPA devices use encrypted firmwares for no good reason plus closed-source drivers, Linux filesystems don't need defragging for all technical purposes, and you shouldn't have to
[12:11] <Minataku> In that order
[12:12] <UbunutuNuubu> "Don't need defragging" *falls down with glee*
[12:13] <Minataku> It will take longer than the life of your computer for the fragmentation of a Linux filesystem to reach the level of a Windows filesystem
[12:13] <Alonea> Minataku: well, its really my ntfs drive that needs it..