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| kdiggdy | hello? | 01:40 |
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| jrib | ola | 01:42 |
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| jrib | hmm | 01:42 |
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| Orgullomoore | hi | 02:00 |
| jrib | hey | 02:01 |
| jrib | let me see if I can find the bug again, if you want to help: bugs.ubuntu.com | 02:01 |
| Orgullomoore | I'll try | 02:01 |
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| Orgullomoore | I found someone who had the same problem as recent as 4 days ago, jrib, but they couldn't fix it eitehr | 02:04 |
| Orgullomoore | http://www.docunext.com/2007/05/31/xfonts-scalable-bug/#more-664 | 02:05 |
| jrib | I had this problem too | 02:05 |
| jrib | it's fixable :) | 02:05 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/63408 | 02:06 |
| jrib | I think that's different | 02:08 |
| Orgullomoore | hmm...seems similar | 02:08 |
| jrib | well the error that you get with configuring xfonts-scalable is the issue | 02:09 |
| Orgullomoore | okie | 02:09 |
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| jrib | alright, lets do this | 02:09 |
| jrib | edit your sources.list and change the "dapper" stuff to "edgy" | 02:09 |
| Orgullomoore | done | 02:12 |
| jrib | alright, 'sudo apt-get update' | 02:12 |
| Orgullomoore | lol, I thought this was the bad way to do it :-D | 02:13 |
| jrib | "not preferred" :) | 02:13 |
| Orgullomoore | ok, finished that part | 02:13 |
| jrib | i just want to see if it's this particular version of xfonts-scalable that's the problem or if it's elsewhere | 02:13 |
| jrib | 'sudo apt-get install xfonts-scalable' | 02:13 |
| Orgullomoore | xfonts-scalable is already the newest version. | 02:14 |
| Orgullomoore | and it gave me that same error that I pasted before... | 02:14 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-scalable | 02:14 |
| Orgullomoore | Reinstallation of xfonts-scalable is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. | 02:15 |
| jrib | eh? | 02:15 |
| jrib | apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable | 02:15 |
| jrib | what version? | 02:15 |
| Orgullomoore | Installed: 1:1.0.0-6 | 02:16 |
| jrib | oh, it's feisty | 02:16 |
| Orgullomoore | let's get rid of it! :-D | 02:16 |
| Orgullomoore | too feisty for me | 02:16 |
| jrib | I think you are best trying to finish getting to feisty | 02:16 |
| Orgullomoore | alright, then let's make that work | 02:17 |
| Orgullomoore | either way | 02:17 |
| jrib | there are probably many others that are still feisty | 02:17 |
| jrib | edit your sources.list again and change it to "feisty" | 02:17 |
| Orgullomoore | done | 02:17 |
| jrib | 'sudo apt-get update' | 02:18 |
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| Orgullomoore | done | 02:19 |
| jrib | alright, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do anything useful? | 02:19 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: umm...too much for me to know, pasting... | 02:20 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/ | 02:20 |
| jrib | nothing essential gets removed, so you should be ok | 02:22 |
| jrib | this will take a while | 02:22 |
| Orgullomoore | ok | 02:23 |
| Orgullomoore | is this gonna fix my problem? | 02:23 |
| jrib | not by itself | 02:23 |
| Orgullomoore | oh I see | 02:23 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: hmm..so are you gonna stick around for a while- | 02:35 |
| Orgullomoore | ? | 02:35 |
| jrib | yeah | 02:38 |
| Orgullomoore | ok, good | 02:39 |
| jrib | how long does it say the download will take? | 02:39 |
| Orgullomoore | we're on get 309...I don't know how many gets there are supposed to be | 02:39 |
| jrib | ~1000 | 02:40 |
| Orgullomoore | 19m32s, maybe that's the one? | 02:40 |
| Orgullomoore | but that number fluctuates | 02:40 |
| jrib | yep | 02:40 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: now I got this> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26518/ | 03:00 |
| jrib | do you use RAID? | 03:01 |
| Orgullomoore | I guess not, cuz I don't know what it is | 03:01 |
| Orgullomoore | (if not bugspray) | 03:01 |
| jrib | yeah :) | 03:01 |
| Orgullomoore | so none or all_ | 03:02 |
| Orgullomoore | ?? | 03:02 |
| jrib | none | 03:02 |
| Orgullomoore | k | 03:02 |
| jrib | or leave it blank | 03:02 |
| Orgullomoore | I still got this error, by the way: Invalid string keyword: chassis-type | 03:03 |
| jrib | k | 03:03 |
| jrib | is apt-get done? | 03:03 |
| Orgullomoore | it's unpacking everything | 03:03 |
| jrib | ok | 03:03 |
| jrib | this is the part where you cross your fingers | 03:04 |
| Orgullomoore | heh | 03:05 |
| Orgullomoore | well...I got some errors | 03:05 |
| jrib | uh oh, pastebin? | 03:05 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26519/ | 03:06 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-driver-savage | 03:08 |
| jrib | then: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again and pastebin errors again | 03:09 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26520/ | 03:10 |
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| Orgullomoore | and it says the same thing when I try dist-upgrade | 03:11 |
| jrib | apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-savage is it installed? | 03:11 |
| Orgullomoore | Installed: 1:2.0.2.3-0ubuntu1 | 03:13 |
| jrib | well lets see what apt-get suggests. What does 'sudo apt-get install -f' think is a good idea? | 03:13 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26521/ | 03:14 |
| jrib | the packages changed names to *video* instead of *driver* which is why this is happening | 03:14 |
| jrib | you comfortable if you get dropped out of X and into a shell? | 03:16 |
| Orgullomoore | umm...not very comfortable | 03:17 |
| jrib | Orgullomoore: output of: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/ | 03:20 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26523/ | 03:27 |
| jrib | ok, I *think* you'll be ok in X if we remove it and then add it back | 03:27 |
| jrib | but, just in case... do you have some way of getting back if it doesn't? | 03:28 |
| jrib | here's what we'll do: we'll agree to what 'apt-get -f install' suggests, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' for good measure | 03:28 |
| jrib | wait | 03:30 |
| jrib | I have a better idea | 03:30 |
| Orgullomoore | good...cuz I have no way of getting back in :-/ | 03:30 |
| jrib | try: sudo dpkg -r xserver-xorg-driver-savage does that succeed? | 03:30 |
| jrib | Orgullomoore: you always have a live cd | 03:30 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: dependency problems | 03:31 |
| Orgullomoore | yeah, I think I have an ubuntu live cd | 03:31 |
| jrib | are you able to do 'sudo apt-get install irssi'? | 03:31 |
| Orgullomoore | no | 03:32 |
| jrib | k | 03:32 |
| Orgullomoore | it doesn't want me to touch anything apt because of the "dependency problems" | 03:32 |
| jrib | go for 'sudo apt-get -f install' and if something happens that you need to go to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1), then do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' | 03:32 |
| Orgullomoore | ok | 03:33 |
| Orgullomoore | it's unpacking a bunch of stuff.. | 03:37 |
| jrib | yeah, it installed some stuff too in addition to removing X | 03:37 |
| Orgullomoore | I have python 2.5 now :D | 03:39 |
| jrib | and you're still here! | 03:39 |
| Orgullomoore | lol | 03:39 |
| jrib | apt-get done? | 03:39 |
| Orgullomoore | still doing stuff | 03:39 |
| Orgullomoore | ok, now it's done | 03:40 |
| Orgullomoore | and our friend is back | 03:40 |
| Orgullomoore | Errors were encountered while processing: | 03:40 |
| Orgullomoore | xfonts-scalable | 03:40 |
| Orgullomoore | apache | 03:40 |
| jrib | ok | 03:40 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get remove xfonts-scalable | 03:40 |
| Orgullomoore | I think it did it... | 03:41 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 03:41 |
| Orgullomoore | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26524/ | 03:41 |
| Orgullomoore | and this is what it says about ubuntu-desktop, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26525/ | 03:42 |
| jrib | k, I want to take care of xfonts-scalable first since right now it should be ok to remove | 03:43 |
| jrib | can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm | 03:43 |
| jrib | apt-cache policy dmidecode too | 03:45 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26526/ | 03:46 |
| jrib | Orgullomoore: the contents, I meant, gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm | 03:46 |
| Orgullomoore | ohh | 03:46 |
| Orgullomoore | here is dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26527/ | 03:46 |
| jrib | k, maybe we can upgrade taht | 03:47 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get install dmidecode | 03:47 |
| Orgullomoore | here is that file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26528/ | 03:47 |
| Orgullomoore | here is apt-get install dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26529/ | 03:49 |
| jrib | ugh | 03:49 |
| jrib | apt-cache policy dmidecode still the same? | 03:49 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: yes, still the same | 03:51 |
| jrib | k, nasty trick time then | 03:52 |
| Orgullomoore | huff | 03:52 |
| jrib | edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm and put "exit 0" in the second line | 03:52 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: the second non-commented line, or just the second line? | 03:54 |
| jrib | second line | 03:54 |
| Orgullomoore | k, done | 03:55 |
| jrib | k, now remove xfonts-scalable | 03:55 |
| Orgullomoore | kyle@kyle:~$ apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable | 03:56 |
| Orgullomoore | xfonts-scalable: | 03:56 |
| Orgullomoore | Installed: (none) | 03:56 |
| jrib | yay | 03:57 |
| Orgullomoore | heh | 03:57 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get install dmidecode | 03:57 |
| jrib | I can't find a useful bug on this issue, it's weird... though I hope upgrading dmidecode makes the problem go away | 03:57 |
| Orgullomoore | dmidecode: | 03:57 |
| Orgullomoore | Installed: 2.8-2 | 03:57 |
| Orgullomoore | looks like we're upgraded | 03:58 |
| Orgullomoore | now what? | 03:58 |
| jrib | k, now: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 03:58 |
| Orgullomoore | and say yes to all that stuff? | 03:58 |
| jrib | check what it wants to remove | 03:58 |
| Orgullomoore | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26530/ | 03:59 |
| Orgullomoore | my python stuff... | 03:59 |
| jrib | go for it | 03:59 |
| Orgullomoore | k | 03:59 |
| Orgullomoore | hmm...so am I gonna have to start using Gnome now_ | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | ? | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | (I use KDE right now) | 04:01 |
| jrib | oh, I assumed that's what you used | 04:01 |
| jrib | did you press enter already? | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | yeah | 04:01 |
| jrib | not a big deal, you can have both | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | yep | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | hopefully that won't be a big deal | 04:01 |
| Orgullomoore | 6 minutes | 04:03 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26531/ | 04:11 |
| jrib | Orgullomoore: kdm is default for kde | 04:11 |
| Orgullomoore | ok | 04:11 |
| jrib | that's the one you are used to | 04:11 |
| Orgullomoore | good :) | 04:11 |
| Orgullomoore | now it's in the removing and unpacking stage... | 04:11 |
| jrib | you mean the cross-your-fingers stage? | 04:12 |
| Orgullomoore | that's the one | 04:13 |
| Orgullomoore | hmm...my sound card stopped working all the sudden | 04:18 |
| Orgullomoore | bye bye music | 04:18 |
| jrib | what was the player? | 04:18 |
| Orgullomoore | xmms | 04:18 |
| Orgullomoore | also check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26532/ jrib, I'm not sure if that's going to matter | 04:20 |
| jrib | should be ok | 04:20 |
| Orgullomoore | what about this, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26533/ | 04:22 |
| jrib | Orgullomoore: shouldn't matter unless you've made changes yourself | 04:23 |
| jrib | make a note and compare later | 04:23 |
| Orgullomoore | k | 04:23 |
| Orgullomoore | haha, jrib I don't see squares anymore! | 04:26 |
| jrib | cool | 04:26 |
| jrib | apt-get finished? | 04:26 |
| Orgullomoore | hopefully the soundcard is just temporarily disabled while apt is doing all this stuff... | 04:26 |
| Orgullomoore | nope | 04:26 |
| Orgullomoore | holy moly this is taking a while... | 04:36 |
| Orgullomoore | ok, it's finished, jrib | 04:38 |
| jrib | k, now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 04:39 |
| Orgullomoore | k | 04:40 |
| Orgullomoore | hmm...why is there so much to upgrade when I just upgraded? | 04:40 |
| jrib | :x | 04:41 |
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| jrib | Orgullomoore: everything run alright? | 05:00 |
| Orgullomoore | jrib: it's still setting stuff up... | 05:01 |
| Orgullomoore | my soundcard still doesn't work, I might have to toy with that | 05:01 |
| Orgullomoore | Rebuilding the database. This may take some time. | 05:01 |
| Orgullomoore | done, jrib | 05:07 |
| jrib | ok, you should install kubuntu-desktop and dist-upgrade again | 05:08 |
| Orgullomoore | mm...I think it already did a bunch of kubuntu stuff with that one | 05:09 |
| Orgullomoore | I saw a lot of K's | 05:09 |
| jrib | after that is done, dist-upgrade one more time to make sure it says everything is fine, reboot (cross fingers), and dist-upgrade one last time | 05:09 |
| Orgullomoore | Jesus, that's a lot of dist-upgrades | 05:09 |
| Orgullomoore | hmm..and what do you recommend to get my soundcard back up? | 05:09 |
| jrib | well lets see what happens after the reboot | 05:10 |
| Orgullomoore | mkay, can I skip the kubuntu-desktop part for now? | 05:10 |
| jrib | sure | 05:11 |
| Orgullomoore | so am I to run another dist-upgrade or just reboot? | 05:11 |
| jrib | just dist-upgrade once to make sure it's done | 05:11 |
| jrib | it should say everything is okay | 05:11 |
| Orgullomoore | ok | 05:11 |
| Orgullomoore | 3 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 05:12 |
| jrib | k, let it do that | 05:12 |
| Orgullomoore | k | 05:12 |
| jrib | well, make sure the 2 to remove aren't important of course | 05:12 |
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| Orgullomoore | k, it's done | 05:13 |
| jrib | k, now if you try again, does it say everything is ok? | 05:14 |
| Orgullomoore | everything is 0 | 05:14 |
| jrib | k, reboot | 05:14 |
| Orgullomoore | k, see ya on the other side (hopefully) | 05:14 |
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| OrgulloKmoore | hmm..well here I am | 05:18 |
| jrib | good | 05:18 |
| OrgulloKmoore | xchat's working...before it was just squares | 05:18 |
| OrgulloKmoore | but..the soundcard is not :D | 05:18 |
| jrib | oh | 05:18 |
| jrib | dist-upgrade still shows nothing? | 05:18 |
| jrib | what sound card? | 05:18 |
| OrgulloKmoore | E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade | 05:20 |
| OrgulloKmoore | E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade | 05:20 |
| jrib | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:20 |
| OrgulloKmoore | that's it | 05:20 |
| OrgulloKmoore | yeah, 0's | 05:20 |
| jrib | k | 05:20 |
| jrib | alsamixer shows pcm is not muted and master is not muted? | 05:20 |
| OrgulloKmoore | yeah, nothing's muted | 05:21 |
| OrgulloKmoore | xmms actually gives me a soundcard error...it doesn't just not emit sound | 05:21 |
| jrib | aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav does not work? | 05:22 |
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| OrgulloKmoore | jrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26540/ | 05:23 |
| jrib | OrgulloKmoore: sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-base | 05:26 |
| jrib | !sound | 05:26 |
| ubotu | If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 05:26 |
| jrib | I'm not that great at debugging sound, but you can try reinstalling alsa and the tips above. And try #ubuntu. I don't know if it would help but you can see if there are any options in system -> preferences -> sounds too | 05:27 |
| OrgulloKmoore | hmpf, looks like I've got some troubleshooting to do, that didn't work, jrib | 05:28 |
| OrgulloKmoore | well you've been a great help | 05:28 |
| OrgulloKmoore | one last question...how do I change the screen resolution? | 05:28 |
| jrib | check bugs.ubuntu.com for similar issues too | 05:28 |
| OrgulloKmoore | everything's all tiny | 05:28 |
| jrib | OrgulloKmoore: system -> preferences -> screen resolution list what you want? | 05:28 |
| OrgulloKmoore | well I'm on KDE, remember? not the same... | 05:29 |
| jrib | oh right | 05:29 |
| jrib | hmm | 05:29 |
| jrib | try #kubuntu? | 05:29 |
| jrib | if the gui app doesn't list what you want, see: | 05:29 |
| jrib | !fixres | 05:29 |
| ubotu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 05:29 |
| OrgulloKmoore | k, thanks | 05:32 |
| OrgulloKmoore | uh..now firefox is randomly closing when I open links :* | 05:35 |
| OrgulloKmoore | ( | 05:35 |
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