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jriblet me see if I can find the bug again, if you want to help: bugs.ubuntu.com02:01
OrgullomooreI'll try02:01
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OrgullomooreI found someone who had the same problem as recent as 4 days ago, jrib, but they couldn't fix it eitehr02:04
jribI had this problem too02:05
jribit's fixable :)02:05
Orgullomoorejrib: is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/6340802:06
jribI think that's different02:08
Orgullomoorehmm...seems similar02:08
jribwell the error that you get with configuring xfonts-scalable is the issue02:09
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jribalright, lets do this02:09
jribedit your sources.list and change the "dapper" stuff to "edgy"02:09
jribalright, 'sudo apt-get update'02:12
Orgullomoorelol, I thought this was the bad way to do it :-D02:13
jrib"not preferred" :)02:13
Orgullomooreok, finished that part02:13
jribi just want to see if it's this particular version of xfonts-scalable that's the problem or if it's elsewhere02:13
jrib'sudo apt-get install xfonts-scalable'02:13
Orgullomoorexfonts-scalable is already the newest version.02:14
Orgullomooreand it gave me that same error that I pasted before...02:14
jribsudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-scalable02:14
OrgullomooreReinstallation of xfonts-scalable is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.02:15
jribapt-cache policy xfonts-scalable02:15
jribwhat version?02:15
Orgullomoore  Installed: 1:1.0.0-602:16
jriboh, it's feisty02:16
Orgullomoorelet's get rid of it! :-D02:16
Orgullomooretoo feisty for me02:16
jribI think you are best trying to finish getting to feisty02:16
Orgullomoorealright, then let's make that work02:17
Orgullomooreeither way02:17
jribthere are probably many others that are still feisty02:17
jribedit your sources.list again and change it to "feisty"02:17
jrib'sudo apt-get update'02:18
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jribalright, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do anything useful?02:19
Orgullomoorejrib: umm...too much for me to know, pasting...02:20
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/02:20
jribnothing essential gets removed, so you should be ok02:22
jribthis will take a while02:22
Orgullomooreis this gonna fix my problem?02:23
jribnot by itself02:23
Orgullomooreoh I see02:23
Orgullomoorejrib: hmm..so are you gonna stick around for a while-02:35
Orgullomooreok, good02:39
jribhow long does it say the download will take?02:39
Orgullomoorewe're on get 309...I don't know how many gets there are supposed to be02:39
Orgullomoore19m32s, maybe that's the one?02:40
Orgullomoorebut that number fluctuates02:40
Orgullomoorejrib: now I got this> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26518/03:00
jribdo you use RAID?03:01
OrgullomooreI guess not, cuz I don't know what it is03:01
Orgullomoore(if not bugspray)03:01
jribyeah :)03:01
Orgullomooreso none or all_03:02
jribor leave it blank03:02
OrgullomooreI still got this error, by the way: Invalid string keyword: chassis-type03:03
jribis apt-get done?03:03
Orgullomooreit's unpacking everything03:03
jribthis is the part where you cross your fingers03:04
Orgullomoorewell...I got some errors03:05
jribuh oh, pastebin?03:05
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26519/03:06
jribsudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-driver-savage03:08
jribthen: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  again and pastebin errors again03:09
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26520/03:10
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Orgullomooreand it says the same thing when I try dist-upgrade03:11
jribapt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-savage   is it installed?03:11
OrgullomooreInstalled: 1:
jribwell lets see what apt-get suggests.  What does 'sudo apt-get install -f' think is a good idea?03:13
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26521/03:14
jribthe packages changed names to *video* instead of *driver* which is why this is happening03:14
jribyou comfortable if you get dropped out of X and into a shell?03:16
Orgullomooreumm...not very comfortable03:17
jribOrgullomoore: output of: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/03:20
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26523/03:27
jribok, I *think* you'll be ok in X if we remove it and then add it back03:27
jribbut, just in case... do you have some way of getting back if it doesn't?03:28
jribhere's what we'll do:  we'll agree to what 'apt-get -f install' suggests, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' for good measure03:28
jribI have a better idea03:30
Orgullomooregood...cuz I have no way of getting back in :-/03:30
jribtry: sudo dpkg -r xserver-xorg-driver-savage    does that succeed?03:30
jribOrgullomoore: you always have a live cd03:30
Orgullomoorejrib: dependency problems03:31
Orgullomooreyeah, I think I have an ubuntu live cd03:31
jribare you able to do 'sudo apt-get install irssi'?03:31
Orgullomooreit doesn't want me to touch anything apt because of the "dependency problems"03:32
jribgo for 'sudo apt-get -f install' and if something happens that you need to go to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1), then do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'03:32
Orgullomooreit's unpacking a bunch of stuff..03:37
jribyeah, it installed some stuff too in addition to removing X03:37
OrgullomooreI have python 2.5 now :D03:39
jriband you're still here!03:39
jribapt-get done?03:39
Orgullomoorestill doing stuff03:39
Orgullomooreok, now it's done03:40
Orgullomooreand our friend is back03:40
OrgullomooreErrors were encountered while processing:03:40
Orgullomoore xfonts-scalable03:40
Orgullomoore apache03:40
jribsudo apt-get remove xfonts-scalable03:40
OrgullomooreI think it did it...03:41
jribsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:41
Orgullomooreand this is what it says about ubuntu-desktop, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26525/03:42
jribk, I want to take care of xfonts-scalable first since right now it should be ok to remove03:43
jribcan you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm03:43
jribapt-cache policy dmidecode  too03:45
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26526/03:46
jribOrgullomoore: the contents, I meant, gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm03:46
Orgullomoorehere is dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26527/03:46
jribk, maybe we can upgrade taht03:47
jribsudo apt-get install dmidecode03:47
Orgullomoorehere is that file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26528/03:47
Orgullomoorehere is apt-get install dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26529/03:49
jribapt-cache policy dmidecode  still the same?03:49
Orgullomoorejrib: yes, still the same03:51
jribk, nasty trick time then03:52
jribedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm and put "exit 0" in the second line03:52
Orgullomoorejrib: the second non-commented line, or just the second line?03:54
jribsecond line03:54
Orgullomoorek, done03:55
jribk, now remove xfonts-scalable03:55
Orgullomoorekyle@kyle:~$ apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable03:56
Orgullomoore  Installed: (none)03:56
jribsudo apt-get install dmidecode03:57
jribI can't find a useful bug on this issue, it's weird... though I hope upgrading dmidecode makes the problem go away03:57
Orgullomoore  Installed: 2.8-203:57
Orgullomoorelooks like we're  upgraded03:58
Orgullomoorenow what?03:58
jribk, now: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:58
Orgullomooreand say yes to all that stuff?03:58
jribcheck what it wants to remove03:58
Orgullomooremy python stuff...03:59
jribgo for it03:59
Orgullomoorehmm...so am I gonna have to start using Gnome now_04:01
Orgullomoore(I use KDE right now)04:01
jriboh, I assumed that's what you used04:01
jribdid you press enter already?04:01
jribnot a big deal, you can have both04:01
Orgullomoorehopefully that won't be a big deal04:01
Orgullomoore6 minutes04:03
Orgullomoorejrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26531/04:11
jribOrgullomoore: kdm is default for kde04:11
jribthat's the one you are used to04:11
Orgullomooregood :)04:11
Orgullomoorenow it's in the removing and unpacking stage...04:11
jribyou mean the cross-your-fingers stage?04:12
Orgullomoorethat's the one04:13
Orgullomoorehmm...my sound card stopped working all the sudden04:18
Orgullomoorebye bye music04:18
jribwhat was the player?04:18
Orgullomoorealso check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26532/ jrib, I'm not sure if that's going to matter04:20
jribshould be ok04:20
Orgullomoorewhat about this, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26533/04:22
jribOrgullomoore: shouldn't matter unless you've made changes yourself04:23
jribmake a note and compare later04:23
Orgullomoorehaha, jrib I don't see squares anymore!04:26
jribapt-get finished?04:26
Orgullomoorehopefully the soundcard is just temporarily disabled while apt is doing all this stuff...04:26
Orgullomooreholy moly this is taking a while...04:36
Orgullomooreok, it's finished, jrib04:38
jribk, now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:39
Orgullomoorehmm...why is there so much to upgrade when I just upgraded?04:40
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jribOrgullomoore: everything run alright?05:00
Orgullomoorejrib: it's still setting stuff up...05:01
Orgullomooremy soundcard still doesn't work, I might have to toy with that05:01
OrgullomooreRebuilding the database. This may take some time.05:01
Orgullomooredone, jrib05:07
jribok, you should install kubuntu-desktop and dist-upgrade again05:08
Orgullomooremm...I think it already did a bunch of kubuntu stuff with that one05:09
OrgullomooreI saw a lot of K's05:09
jribafter that is done, dist-upgrade one more time to make sure it says everything is fine, reboot (cross fingers), and dist-upgrade one last time05:09
OrgullomooreJesus, that's a lot of dist-upgrades05:09
Orgullomoorehmm..and what do you recommend to get my soundcard back up?05:09
jribwell lets see what happens after the reboot05:10
Orgullomooremkay, can I skip the kubuntu-desktop part for now?05:10
Orgullomooreso am I to run another dist-upgrade or just reboot?05:11
jribjust dist-upgrade once to make sure it's done05:11
jribit should say everything is okay05:11
Orgullomoore3 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:12
jribk, let it do that05:12
jribwell, make sure the 2 to remove aren't important of course05:12
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Orgullomoorek, it's done05:13
jribk, now if you try again, does it say everything is ok?05:14
Orgullomooreeverything is 005:14
jribk, reboot05:14
Orgullomoorek, see ya on the other side (hopefully)05:14
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OrgulloKmoorehmm..well here I am05:18
OrgulloKmoorexchat's working...before it was just squares05:18
OrgulloKmoorebut..the soundcard is not :D05:18
jribdist-upgrade still shows nothing?05:18
jribwhat sound card?05:18
OrgulloKmooreE: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade05:20
OrgulloKmooreE: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade05:20
jribsudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:20
OrgulloKmoorethat's it05:20
OrgulloKmooreyeah, 0's05:20
jribalsamixer  shows pcm is not muted and master is not muted?05:20
OrgulloKmooreyeah, nothing's muted05:21
OrgulloKmoorexmms actually gives me a soundcard error...it doesn't just not emit sound05:21
jribaplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav    does not work?05:22
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OrgulloKmoorejrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26540/05:23
jribOrgulloKmoore: sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-base05:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:26
jribI'm not that great at debugging sound, but you can try reinstalling alsa and the tips above.  And try #ubuntu.  I don't know if it would help but you can see if there are any options in system -> preferences -> sounds too05:27
OrgulloKmoorehmpf, looks like I've got some troubleshooting to do, that didn't work, jrib05:28
OrgulloKmoorewell you've been a great help05:28
OrgulloKmooreone last question...how do I change the screen resolution?05:28
jribcheck bugs.ubuntu.com for similar issues too05:28
OrgulloKmooreeverything's all tiny05:28
jribOrgulloKmoore: system -> preferences -> screen resolution  list what you want?05:28
OrgulloKmoorewell I'm on KDE, remember? not the same...05:29
jriboh right05:29
jribtry #kubuntu?05:29
jribif the gui app doesn't list what you want, see:05:29
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:29
OrgulloKmoorek, thanks05:32
OrgulloKmooreuh..now firefox is randomly closing when I open links :*05:35
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