[01:40] <kdiggdy> hello?
[01:42] <jrib> ola
[01:42] <jrib> hmm
[02:00] <Orgullomoore> hi
[02:01] <jrib> hey
[02:01] <jrib> let me see if I can find the bug again, if you want to help: bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <Orgullomoore> I'll try
[02:04] <Orgullomoore> I found someone who had the same problem as recent as 4 days ago, jrib, but they couldn't fix it eitehr
[02:05] <Orgullomoore> http://www.docunext.com/2007/05/31/xfonts-scalable-bug/#more-664
[02:05] <jrib> I had this problem too
[02:05] <jrib> it's fixable :)
[02:06] <Orgullomoore> jrib: is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/63408
[02:08] <jrib> I think that's different
[02:08] <Orgullomoore> hmm...seems similar
[02:09] <jrib> well the error that you get with configuring xfonts-scalable is the issue
[02:09] <Orgullomoore> okie
[02:09] <jrib> alright, lets do this
[02:09] <jrib> edit your sources.list and change the "dapper" stuff to "edgy"
[02:12] <Orgullomoore> done
[02:12] <jrib> alright, 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:13] <Orgullomoore> lol, I thought this was the bad way to do it :-D
[02:13] <jrib> "not preferred" :)
[02:13] <Orgullomoore> ok, finished that part
[02:13] <jrib> i just want to see if it's this particular version of xfonts-scalable that's the problem or if it's elsewhere
[02:13] <jrib> 'sudo apt-get install xfonts-scalable'
[02:14] <Orgullomoore> xfonts-scalable is already the newest version.
[02:14] <Orgullomoore> and it gave me that same error that I pasted before...
[02:14] <jrib> sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-scalable
[02:15] <Orgullomoore> Reinstallation of xfonts-scalable is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[02:15] <jrib> eh?
[02:15] <jrib> apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable
[02:15] <jrib> what version?
[02:16] <Orgullomoore>   Installed: 1:1.0.0-6
[02:16] <jrib> oh, it's feisty
[02:16] <Orgullomoore> let's get rid of it! :-D
[02:16] <Orgullomoore> too feisty for me
[02:16] <jrib> I think you are best trying to finish getting to feisty
[02:17] <Orgullomoore> alright, then let's make that work
[02:17] <Orgullomoore> either way
[02:17] <jrib> there are probably many others that are still feisty
[02:17] <jrib> edit your sources.list again and change it to "feisty"
[02:17] <Orgullomoore> done
[02:18] <jrib> 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:19] <Orgullomoore> done
[02:19] <jrib> alright, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do anything useful?
[02:20] <Orgullomoore> jrib: umm...too much for me to know, pasting...
[02:20] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/
[02:22] <jrib> nothing essential gets removed, so you should be ok
[02:22] <jrib> this will take a while
[02:23] <Orgullomoore> ok
[02:23] <Orgullomoore> is this gonna fix my problem?
[02:23] <jrib> not by itself
[02:23] <Orgullomoore> oh I see
[02:35] <Orgullomoore> jrib: hmm..so are you gonna stick around for a while-
[02:35] <Orgullomoore> ?
[02:38] <jrib> yeah
[02:39] <Orgullomoore> ok, good
[02:39] <jrib> how long does it say the download will take?
[02:39] <Orgullomoore> we're on get 309...I don't know how many gets there are supposed to be
[02:40] <jrib> ~1000
[02:40] <Orgullomoore> 19m32s, maybe that's the one?
[02:40] <Orgullomoore> but that number fluctuates
[02:40] <jrib> yep
[03:00] <Orgullomoore> jrib: now I got this> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26518/
[03:01] <jrib> do you use RAID?
[03:01] <Orgullomoore> I guess not, cuz I don't know what it is
[03:01] <Orgullomoore> (if not bugspray)
[03:01] <jrib> yeah :)
[03:02] <Orgullomoore> so none or all_
[03:02] <Orgullomoore> ??
[03:02] <jrib> none
[03:02] <Orgullomoore> k
[03:02] <jrib> or leave it blank
[03:03] <Orgullomoore> I still got this error, by the way: Invalid string keyword: chassis-type
[03:03] <jrib> k
[03:03] <jrib> is apt-get done?
[03:03] <Orgullomoore> it's unpacking everything
[03:03] <jrib> ok
[03:04] <jrib> this is the part where you cross your fingers
[03:05] <Orgullomoore> heh
[03:05] <Orgullomoore> well...I got some errors
[03:05] <jrib> uh oh, pastebin?
[03:06] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26519/
[03:08] <jrib> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-driver-savage
[03:09] <jrib> then: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  again and pastebin errors again
[03:10] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26520/
[03:11] <Orgullomoore> and it says the same thing when I try dist-upgrade
[03:11] <jrib> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-savage   is it installed?
[03:13] <Orgullomoore> Installed: 1:2.0.2.3-0ubuntu1
[03:13] <jrib> well lets see what apt-get suggests.  What does 'sudo apt-get install -f' think is a good idea?
[03:14] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26521/
[03:14] <jrib> the packages changed names to *video* instead of *driver* which is why this is happening
[03:16] <jrib> you comfortable if you get dropped out of X and into a shell?
[03:17] <Orgullomoore> umm...not very comfortable
[03:20] <jrib> Orgullomoore: output of: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/
[03:27] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26523/
[03:27] <jrib> ok, I *think* you'll be ok in X if we remove it and then add it back
[03:28] <jrib> but, just in case... do you have some way of getting back if it doesn't?
[03:28] <jrib> here's what we'll do:  we'll agree to what 'apt-get -f install' suggests, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' for good measure
[03:30] <jrib> wait
[03:30] <jrib> I have a better idea
[03:30] <Orgullomoore> good...cuz I have no way of getting back in :-/
[03:30] <jrib> try: sudo dpkg -r xserver-xorg-driver-savage    does that succeed?
[03:30] <jrib> Orgullomoore: you always have a live cd
[03:31] <Orgullomoore> jrib: dependency problems
[03:31] <Orgullomoore> yeah, I think I have an ubuntu live cd
[03:31] <jrib> are you able to do 'sudo apt-get install irssi'?
[03:32] <Orgullomoore> no
[03:32] <jrib> k
[03:32] <Orgullomoore> it doesn't want me to touch anything apt because of the "dependency problems"
[03:32] <jrib> go for 'sudo apt-get -f install' and if something happens that you need to go to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1), then do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:33] <Orgullomoore> ok
[03:37] <Orgullomoore> it's unpacking a bunch of stuff..
[03:37] <jrib> yeah, it installed some stuff too in addition to removing X
[03:39] <Orgullomoore> I have python 2.5 now :D
[03:39] <jrib> and you're still here!
[03:39] <Orgullomoore> lol
[03:39] <jrib> apt-get done?
[03:39] <Orgullomoore> still doing stuff
[03:40] <Orgullomoore> ok, now it's done
[03:40] <Orgullomoore> and our friend is back
[03:40] <Orgullomoore> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:40] <Orgullomoore>  xfonts-scalable
[03:40] <Orgullomoore>  apache
[03:40] <jrib> ok
[03:40] <jrib> sudo apt-get remove xfonts-scalable
[03:41] <Orgullomoore> I think it did it...
[03:41] <jrib> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <Orgullomoore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26524/
[03:42] <Orgullomoore> and this is what it says about ubuntu-desktop, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26525/
[03:43] <jrib> k, I want to take care of xfonts-scalable first since right now it should be ok to remove
[03:43] <jrib> can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm
[03:45] <jrib> apt-cache policy dmidecode  too
[03:46] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26526/
[03:46] <jrib> Orgullomoore: the contents, I meant, gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm
[03:46] <Orgullomoore> ohh
[03:46] <Orgullomoore> here is dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26527/
[03:47] <jrib> k, maybe we can upgrade taht
[03:47] <jrib> sudo apt-get install dmidecode
[03:47] <Orgullomoore> here is that file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26528/
[03:49] <Orgullomoore> here is apt-get install dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26529/
[03:49] <jrib> ugh
[03:49] <jrib> apt-cache policy dmidecode  still the same?
[03:51] <Orgullomoore> jrib: yes, still the same
[03:52] <jrib> k, nasty trick time then
[03:52] <Orgullomoore> huff
[03:52] <jrib> edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm and put "exit 0" in the second line
[03:54] <Orgullomoore> jrib: the second non-commented line, or just the second line?
[03:54] <jrib> second line
[03:55] <Orgullomoore> k, done
[03:55] <jrib> k, now remove xfonts-scalable
[03:56] <Orgullomoore> kyle@kyle:~$ apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable
[03:56] <Orgullomoore> xfonts-scalable:
[03:56] <Orgullomoore>   Installed: (none)
[03:57] <jrib> yay
[03:57] <Orgullomoore> heh
[03:57] <jrib> sudo apt-get install dmidecode
[03:57] <jrib> I can't find a useful bug on this issue, it's weird... though I hope upgrading dmidecode makes the problem go away
[03:57] <Orgullomoore> dmidecode:
[03:57] <Orgullomoore>   Installed: 2.8-2
[03:58] <Orgullomoore> looks like we're  upgraded
[03:58] <Orgullomoore> now what?
[03:58] <jrib> k, now: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <Orgullomoore> and say yes to all that stuff?
[03:58] <jrib> check what it wants to remove
[03:59] <Orgullomoore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26530/
[03:59] <Orgullomoore> my python stuff...
[03:59] <jrib> go for it
[03:59] <Orgullomoore> k
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> hmm...so am I gonna have to start using Gnome now_
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> ?
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> (I use KDE right now)
[04:01] <jrib> oh, I assumed that's what you used
[04:01] <jrib> did you press enter already?
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> yeah
[04:01] <jrib> not a big deal, you can have both
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> yep
[04:01] <Orgullomoore> hopefully that won't be a big deal
[04:03] <Orgullomoore> 6 minutes
[04:11] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26531/
[04:11] <jrib> Orgullomoore: kdm is default for kde
[04:11] <Orgullomoore> ok
[04:11] <jrib> that's the one you are used to
[04:11] <Orgullomoore> good :)
[04:11] <Orgullomoore> now it's in the removing and unpacking stage...
[04:12] <jrib> you mean the cross-your-fingers stage?
[04:13] <Orgullomoore> that's the one
[04:18] <Orgullomoore> hmm...my sound card stopped working all the sudden
[04:18] <Orgullomoore> bye bye music
[04:18] <jrib> what was the player?
[04:18] <Orgullomoore> xmms
[04:20] <Orgullomoore> also check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26532/ jrib, I'm not sure if that's going to matter
[04:20] <jrib> should be ok
[04:22] <Orgullomoore> what about this, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26533/
[04:23] <jrib> Orgullomoore: shouldn't matter unless you've made changes yourself
[04:23] <jrib> make a note and compare later
[04:23] <Orgullomoore> k
[04:26] <Orgullomoore> haha, jrib I don't see squares anymore!
[04:26] <jrib> cool
[04:26] <jrib> apt-get finished?
[04:26] <Orgullomoore> hopefully the soundcard is just temporarily disabled while apt is doing all this stuff...
[04:26] <Orgullomoore> nope
[04:36] <Orgullomoore> holy moly this is taking a while...
[04:38] <Orgullomoore> ok, it's finished, jrib
[04:39] <jrib> k, now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:40] <Orgullomoore> k
[04:40] <Orgullomoore> hmm...why is there so much to upgrade when I just upgraded?
[04:41] <jrib> :x
[05:00] <jrib> Orgullomoore: everything run alright?
[05:01] <Orgullomoore> jrib: it's still setting stuff up...
[05:01] <Orgullomoore> my soundcard still doesn't work, I might have to toy with that
[05:01] <Orgullomoore> Rebuilding the database. This may take some time.
[05:07] <Orgullomoore> done, jrib
[05:08] <jrib> ok, you should install kubuntu-desktop and dist-upgrade again
[05:09] <Orgullomoore> mm...I think it already did a bunch of kubuntu stuff with that one
[05:09] <Orgullomoore> I saw a lot of K's
[05:09] <jrib> after that is done, dist-upgrade one more time to make sure it says everything is fine, reboot (cross fingers), and dist-upgrade one last time
[05:09] <Orgullomoore> Jesus, that's a lot of dist-upgrades
[05:09] <Orgullomoore> hmm..and what do you recommend to get my soundcard back up?
[05:10] <jrib> well lets see what happens after the reboot
[05:10] <Orgullomoore> mkay, can I skip the kubuntu-desktop part for now?
[05:11] <jrib> sure
[05:11] <Orgullomoore> so am I to run another dist-upgrade or just reboot?
[05:11] <jrib> just dist-upgrade once to make sure it's done
[05:11] <jrib> it should say everything is okay
[05:11] <Orgullomoore> ok
[05:12] <Orgullomoore> 3 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:12] <jrib> k, let it do that
[05:12] <Orgullomoore> k
[05:12] <jrib> well, make sure the 2 to remove aren't important of course
[05:13] <Orgullomoore> k, it's done
[05:14] <jrib> k, now if you try again, does it say everything is ok?
[05:14] <Orgullomoore> everything is 0
[05:14] <jrib> k, reboot
[05:14] <Orgullomoore> k, see ya on the other side (hopefully)
[05:18] <OrgulloKmoore> hmm..well here I am
[05:18] <jrib> good
[05:18] <OrgulloKmoore> xchat's working...before it was just squares
[05:18] <OrgulloKmoore> but..the soundcard is not :D
[05:18] <jrib> oh
[05:18] <jrib> dist-upgrade still shows nothing?
[05:18] <jrib> what sound card?
[05:20] <OrgulloKmoore> E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade
[05:20] <OrgulloKmoore> E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade
[05:20] <jrib> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <OrgulloKmoore> that's it
[05:20] <OrgulloKmoore> yeah, 0's
[05:20] <jrib> k
[05:20] <jrib> alsamixer  shows pcm is not muted and master is not muted?
[05:21] <OrgulloKmoore> yeah, nothing's muted
[05:21] <OrgulloKmoore> xmms actually gives me a soundcard error...it doesn't just not emit sound
[05:22] <jrib> aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav    does not work?
[05:23] <OrgulloKmoore> jrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26540/
[05:26] <jrib> OrgulloKmoore: sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-base
[05:26] <jrib> !sound
[05:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:27] <jrib> I'm not that great at debugging sound, but you can try reinstalling alsa and the tips above.  And try #ubuntu.  I don't know if it would help but you can see if there are any options in system -> preferences -> sounds too
[05:28] <OrgulloKmoore> hmpf, looks like I've got some troubleshooting to do, that didn't work, jrib
[05:28] <OrgulloKmoore> well you've been a great help
[05:28] <OrgulloKmoore> one last question...how do I change the screen resolution?
[05:28] <jrib> check bugs.ubuntu.com for similar issues too
[05:28] <OrgulloKmoore> everything's all tiny
[05:28] <jrib> OrgulloKmoore: system -> preferences -> screen resolution  list what you want?
[05:29] <OrgulloKmoore> well I'm on KDE, remember? not the same...
[05:29] <jrib> oh right
[05:29] <jrib> hmm
[05:29] <jrib> try #kubuntu?
[05:29] <jrib> if the gui app doesn't list what you want, see:
[05:29] <jrib> !fixres
[05:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:32] <OrgulloKmoore> k, thanks
[05:35] <OrgulloKmoore> uh..now firefox is randomly closing when I open links :*
[05:35] <OrgulloKmoore> (