=== darich [n=trickyki@89.243.34.64] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === greg_g [n=greg@adsl-69-212-43-246.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === kdiggdy [n=ubuntu@adsl-68-78-142-193.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:40] hello? [01:42] ola === kdiggdy [n=ubuntu@adsl-68-78-142-193.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [01:42] hmm === AndrewB [n=andy@freenode/helper/ubuntu.member.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nickrud [n=nickrud_@216.112.213.2.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Orgullomoore [n=kyle@adsl-70-241-103-156.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:00] hi [02:01] hey [02:01] let me see if I can find the bug again, if you want to help: bugs.ubuntu.com [02:01] I'll try === MED [n=chatzill@adsl196-75-31-206-196.adsl196-1.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:04] I found someone who had the same problem as recent as 4 days ago, jrib, but they couldn't fix it eitehr [02:05] http://www.docunext.com/2007/05/31/xfonts-scalable-bug/#more-664 [02:05] I had this problem too [02:05] it's fixable :) [02:06] jrib: is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/63408 [02:08] I think that's different [02:08] hmm...seems similar [02:09] well the error that you get with configuring xfonts-scalable is the issue [02:09] okie === MED [n=chatzill@adsl196-75-31-206-196.adsl196-1.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [02:09] alright, lets do this [02:09] edit your sources.list and change the "dapper" stuff to "edgy" [02:12] done [02:12] alright, 'sudo apt-get update' [02:13] lol, I thought this was the bad way to do it :-D [02:13] "not preferred" :) [02:13] ok, finished that part [02:13] i just want to see if it's this particular version of xfonts-scalable that's the problem or if it's elsewhere [02:13] 'sudo apt-get install xfonts-scalable' [02:14] xfonts-scalable is already the newest version. [02:14] and it gave me that same error that I pasted before... [02:14] sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-scalable [02:15] Reinstallation of xfonts-scalable is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. [02:15] eh? [02:15] apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable [02:15] what version? [02:16] Installed: 1:1.0.0-6 [02:16] oh, it's feisty [02:16] let's get rid of it! :-D [02:16] too feisty for me [02:16] I think you are best trying to finish getting to feisty [02:17] alright, then let's make that work [02:17] either way [02:17] there are probably many others that are still feisty [02:17] edit your sources.list again and change it to "feisty" [02:17] done [02:18] 'sudo apt-get update' === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-87-147.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:19] done [02:19] alright, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do anything useful? [02:20] jrib: umm...too much for me to know, pasting... [02:20] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26515/ [02:22] nothing essential gets removed, so you should be ok [02:22] this will take a while [02:23] ok [02:23] is this gonna fix my problem? [02:23] not by itself [02:23] oh I see [02:35] jrib: hmm..so are you gonna stick around for a while- [02:35] ? [02:38] yeah [02:39] ok, good [02:39] how long does it say the download will take? [02:39] we're on get 309...I don't know how many gets there are supposed to be [02:40] ~1000 [02:40] 19m32s, maybe that's the one? [02:40] but that number fluctuates [02:40] yep [03:00] jrib: now I got this> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26518/ [03:01] do you use RAID? [03:01] I guess not, cuz I don't know what it is [03:01] (if not bugspray) [03:01] yeah :) [03:02] so none or all_ [03:02] ?? [03:02] none [03:02] k [03:02] or leave it blank [03:03] I still got this error, by the way: Invalid string keyword: chassis-type [03:03] k [03:03] is apt-get done? [03:03] it's unpacking everything [03:03] ok [03:04] this is the part where you cross your fingers [03:05] heh [03:05] well...I got some errors [03:05] uh oh, pastebin? [03:06] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26519/ [03:08] sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-driver-savage [03:09] then: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again and pastebin errors again [03:10] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26520/ === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-163-223-242.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === briancron [n=brian@c-76-111-26-81.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:11] and it says the same thing when I try dist-upgrade [03:11] apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-savage is it installed? [03:13] Installed: 1:2.0.2.3-0ubuntu1 [03:13] well lets see what apt-get suggests. What does 'sudo apt-get install -f' think is a good idea? [03:14] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26521/ [03:14] the packages changed names to *video* instead of *driver* which is why this is happening [03:16] you comfortable if you get dropped out of X and into a shell? [03:17] umm...not very comfortable [03:20] Orgullomoore: output of: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26522/ [03:27] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26523/ [03:27] ok, I *think* you'll be ok in X if we remove it and then add it back [03:28] but, just in case... do you have some way of getting back if it doesn't? [03:28] here's what we'll do: we'll agree to what 'apt-get -f install' suggests, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' for good measure [03:30] wait [03:30] I have a better idea [03:30] good...cuz I have no way of getting back in :-/ [03:30] try: sudo dpkg -r xserver-xorg-driver-savage does that succeed? [03:30] Orgullomoore: you always have a live cd [03:31] jrib: dependency problems [03:31] yeah, I think I have an ubuntu live cd [03:31] are you able to do 'sudo apt-get install irssi'? [03:32] no [03:32] k [03:32] it doesn't want me to touch anything apt because of the "dependency problems" [03:32] go for 'sudo apt-get -f install' and if something happens that you need to go to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1), then do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [03:33] ok [03:37] it's unpacking a bunch of stuff.. [03:37] yeah, it installed some stuff too in addition to removing X [03:39] I have python 2.5 now :D [03:39] and you're still here! [03:39] lol [03:39] apt-get done? [03:39] still doing stuff [03:40] ok, now it's done [03:40] and our friend is back [03:40] Errors were encountered while processing: [03:40] xfonts-scalable [03:40] apache [03:40] ok [03:40] sudo apt-get remove xfonts-scalable [03:41] I think it did it... [03:41] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:41] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26524/ [03:42] and this is what it says about ubuntu-desktop, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26525/ [03:43] k, I want to take care of xfonts-scalable first since right now it should be ok to remove [03:43] can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm [03:45] apt-cache policy dmidecode too [03:46] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26526/ [03:46] Orgullomoore: the contents, I meant, gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm [03:46] ohh [03:46] here is dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26527/ [03:47] k, maybe we can upgrade taht [03:47] sudo apt-get install dmidecode [03:47] here is that file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26528/ [03:49] here is apt-get install dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26529/ [03:49] ugh [03:49] apt-cache policy dmidecode still the same? [03:51] jrib: yes, still the same [03:52] k, nasty trick time then [03:52] huff [03:52] edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xfonts-scalable.postrm and put "exit 0" in the second line [03:54] jrib: the second non-commented line, or just the second line? [03:54] second line [03:55] k, done [03:55] k, now remove xfonts-scalable [03:56] kyle@kyle:~$ apt-cache policy xfonts-scalable [03:56] xfonts-scalable: [03:56] Installed: (none) [03:57] yay [03:57] heh [03:57] sudo apt-get install dmidecode [03:57] I can't find a useful bug on this issue, it's weird... though I hope upgrading dmidecode makes the problem go away [03:57] dmidecode: [03:57] Installed: 2.8-2 [03:58] looks like we're upgraded [03:58] now what? [03:58] k, now: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:58] and say yes to all that stuff? [03:58] check what it wants to remove [03:59] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26530/ [03:59] my python stuff... [03:59] go for it [03:59] k [04:01] hmm...so am I gonna have to start using Gnome now_ [04:01] ? [04:01] (I use KDE right now) [04:01] oh, I assumed that's what you used [04:01] did you press enter already? [04:01] yeah [04:01] not a big deal, you can have both [04:01] yep [04:01] hopefully that won't be a big deal [04:03] 6 minutes [04:11] jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26531/ [04:11] Orgullomoore: kdm is default for kde [04:11] ok [04:11] that's the one you are used to [04:11] good :) [04:11] now it's in the removing and unpacking stage... [04:12] you mean the cross-your-fingers stage? [04:13] that's the one [04:18] hmm...my sound card stopped working all the sudden [04:18] bye bye music [04:18] what was the player? [04:18] xmms [04:20] also check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26532/ jrib, I'm not sure if that's going to matter [04:20] should be ok [04:22] what about this, jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26533/ [04:23] Orgullomoore: shouldn't matter unless you've made changes yourself [04:23] make a note and compare later [04:23] k [04:26] haha, jrib I don't see squares anymore! [04:26] cool [04:26] apt-get finished? [04:26] hopefully the soundcard is just temporarily disabled while apt is doing all this stuff... [04:26] nope [04:36] holy moly this is taking a while... [04:38] ok, it's finished, jrib [04:39] k, now: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [04:40] k [04:40] hmm...why is there so much to upgrade when I just upgraded? [04:41] :x === _Crusher_ [n=You@ppp121-45-175-112.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:00] Orgullomoore: everything run alright? [05:01] jrib: it's still setting stuff up... [05:01] my soundcard still doesn't work, I might have to toy with that [05:01] Rebuilding the database. This may take some time. [05:07] done, jrib [05:08] ok, you should install kubuntu-desktop and dist-upgrade again [05:09] mm...I think it already did a bunch of kubuntu stuff with that one [05:09] I saw a lot of K's [05:09] after that is done, dist-upgrade one more time to make sure it says everything is fine, reboot (cross fingers), and dist-upgrade one last time [05:09] Jesus, that's a lot of dist-upgrades [05:09] hmm..and what do you recommend to get my soundcard back up? [05:10] well lets see what happens after the reboot [05:10] mkay, can I skip the kubuntu-desktop part for now? [05:11] sure [05:11] so am I to run another dist-upgrade or just reboot? [05:11] just dist-upgrade once to make sure it's done [05:11] it should say everything is okay [05:11] ok [05:12] 3 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [05:12] k, let it do that [05:12] k [05:12] well, make sure the 2 to remove aren't important of course === n2diy_ [n=darryl@66.212.43.223] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:13] k, it's done [05:14] k, now if you try again, does it say everything is ok? [05:14] everything is 0 [05:14] k, reboot [05:14] k, see ya on the other side (hopefully) === OrgulloKmoore [n=Orgullo_@wikipedia/orgullokmoore] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:18] hmm..well here I am [05:18] good [05:18] xchat's working...before it was just squares [05:18] but..the soundcard is not :D [05:18] oh [05:18] dist-upgrade still shows nothing? [05:18] what sound card? [05:20] E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade [05:20] E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade [05:20] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:20] that's it [05:20] yeah, 0's [05:20] k [05:20] alsamixer shows pcm is not muted and master is not muted? [05:21] yeah, nothing's muted [05:21] xmms actually gives me a soundcard error...it doesn't just not emit sound [05:22] aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav does not work? === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:23] jrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26540/ [05:26] OrgulloKmoore: sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-base [05:26] !sound [05:26] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [05:27] I'm not that great at debugging sound, but you can try reinstalling alsa and the tips above. And try #ubuntu. I don't know if it would help but you can see if there are any options in system -> preferences -> sounds too [05:28] hmpf, looks like I've got some troubleshooting to do, that didn't work, jrib [05:28] well you've been a great help [05:28] one last question...how do I change the screen resolution? [05:28] check bugs.ubuntu.com for similar issues too [05:28] everything's all tiny [05:28] OrgulloKmoore: system -> preferences -> screen resolution list what you want? [05:29] well I'm on KDE, remember? not the same... [05:29] oh right [05:29] hmm [05:29] try #kubuntu? [05:29] if the gui app doesn't list what you want, see: [05:29] !fixres [05:29] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. 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