=== Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bassetts [n=jason@5ac2ddbb.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] are some of the repos down? [12:31] Bassetts: Which in particular.y [12:31] s/.y/?/ [12:31] Fujitsu: good morning :) [12:32] let me see [12:32] http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) [12:32] http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) [12:32] there === stratus [n=stratus@86.157.3.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] Fujitsu: are they down if i get that message? === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Oh, hi white. irssi is nicely not notifying me on pings any more. [12:38] Bassetts: It could be a problem on your end, but I'll try it from here. [12:39] someone in #ubuntu said they have been having trouble getting packages [12:39] Works fine for me, so most probably your end. === apachelogger [n=me@N892P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Fujitsu: what do I need to do? [12:40] Bassetts: Check that there are no proxies between you and it that are doing stupid things, or perhaps try again later. === stratus [n=stratus@86.157.3.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56346690.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] Fujitsu: I have not setup no proxies [12:42] Fujitsu: could it be a connection from one of my ISPs servers that is not getting a connection to the repo [12:43] It's hard to say... Probably best to wait a couple of hours and try again. [12:43] it works in firefox [12:44] i can go to http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz and it shows the file [12:45] Fujitsu: could I not download the Packages.gz files in firefox and put them wherever they should go? === Bassetts_ [n=jason@5ac7bc3c.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] Fujitsu: I just realised, its a gzip error [12:54] "sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" [12:55] a status of 1 in gzip means there was an error [01:00] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5677 [01:00] i need someone to review this [01:01] the Packages.gz seems to be broken on two repos [01:01] http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/ [01:01] and http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/ [01:01] Bassetts_: try another repo [01:01] gzip: Desktop/Packages.gz: unexpected end of file [01:02] ch.archive.ubuntu.com [01:02] thanks [01:03] usually it's just a transparent proxy breaking the world, again [01:03] I changed it to main server in synaptic and it all works fine [01:03] ajmitch: ?? [01:03] blame your ISP [01:03] they seem to be sucking this month [01:03] so for now am I ok using the main server? [01:04] then trying the UK server later [01:04] should be [01:04] thanks [01:05] that delayed me a good 45 mins === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] Kmos: you appear here in a private! :) http://daniel.holba.ch/pics/pitti-virtual-desktop.png [01:32] pochu: hehe.. nice :D [01:32] that's a daily screenshot :P === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.99.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === morphir_ [n=morphir@217.168.81.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56346690.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === AndrewB [n=andy@freenode/helper/ubuntu.member.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-038-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.232.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi-m [n=czessi@tmo-098-1.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] I've created a debdiff by using a simple patch, but the debdiff includes changes in config.sub und config.guess. [02:04] Is that ok or should I manually remove them from the debdiff? === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56346690.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] If you know an answer to my question, please leave a comment at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/httptunnel/+bug/121458 - I'm off to bed. [02:10] Launchpad bug 121458 in httptunnel "[patch] fix broken --stdin-stdout option that writes to stdin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [02:13] blueyed: I'll have a look at that, and update the package. [02:13] Is this for gutsy? [02:13] yes, should be. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] blueyed: Ok thanks. === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] blueyed: Do you know if this is reported in Debian? [02:19] I'll have a look in a bit. === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] Ok. There is a bug in Debian about it. [02:23] Good Evening All === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] Hey joejaxx. === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === fdoving_ [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] ScottK: will be in the metro area tomorrow evening/night. === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-21-91-32.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] time to Debianise this puppy [02:39] ... why? === jwendell_ [n=wendell@189.13.210.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK is trying to un-Debianise some of his servers. [02:40] oh, I'm referring to packaging https://code.launchpad.net/~motu/asoundconf-ui/trunk === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] Ah ha [02:43] crimsun: :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac7bc3c.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] ScottK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384190 [03:11] leonel: my goodness [03:11] LaserJock: ?? === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] leonel: that forum thread [03:16] LaserJock! [03:16] now that you're core dev, are you going to blog about being "Beyond MOTU" & your experiences? ;) [03:17] heh === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] If anyone on motumedia wants to check out bug #121476, I'd appreciate comments about the way I've done it. Is this how you'd like such bugs to be filed/packaging changes to be made? [03:21] Launchpad bug 121476 in mplayer "Use Compiz' "video" plugin when available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121476 [03:22] jsgotangco: how's it going? [03:23] ajmitch: not bad, just been busy sorting out last minute home details before i join the employed labour force again on monday [03:23] ajmitch: hehe [03:24] jsgotangco: oh great, where are you working next? [03:25] ajmitch: a firm mostly involved with development of Maven === ajmitch doesn't know what maven is, so will just nod [03:26] heh [03:26] http://maven.apache.org/ ? [03:26] maven.apache.org [03:26] jetty as well [03:26] google wins [03:27] interesting [03:27] I hope it goes well for you [03:27] sure do thanks [03:29] hm, looks to be about a 2-week delay on debian NEW at the moment [03:29] I guess I've got time to tidy & push packages [03:31] that's pretty good [03:35] brb [03:36] it feels wrong now to check stuff out with cvs [03:36] "now"? [03:37] :P [03:37] I don't have to do it often [03:37] well, I replied to that ClamAV thread on the forums, I bet I get some good flames [03:38] yay === ajmitch grabs some popcorn [03:39] ah, you didn't mention that updating clamav to 0.90.x breaks about 15-20 related packages [03:39] I did say there were like 20 packages that depend on it [03:39] but you can certainly add that [03:39] ;-) [03:39] not in Big Bold Letters [03:39] someone foaming at the mouth could easily miss that [03:40] so what was decided at the last motu meeting about it? [03:40] since it was at about 1am here [03:41] looking at the meeting minutes it looks like it was decided to continue working on it on the mailing list [03:42] you weren't at the meeting either? [03:42] no [03:43] slack [03:43] what, were you sleeping or something? [03:44] working I imagine === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-19.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-030-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] err, slightly offtopic question for someone who's done kernel compiles: Can I compile just a module that I need to add, not the whole kernel? [04:05] You should be able to, yes. [04:05] Module-assistant does, and that doesn't even need the kernel source, just the headers. [04:06] Hmm, I'll look into that. Any howtos to get me started RAOF ? [04:07] Not that I can think of, sorry. Generally, you just build the module source, making sure your /usr/lib/modules/2.6.whatever/build symlink goes somewhere sane. [04:08] Or are you trying to build a module included in the vanilla kernel source, that just hasn't been built for your current kernel? [04:08] RAOF: The latter. It isn't included in Debian/Ubuntu b/c of licensing issues. [04:09] Well, you could try changing the kernel config, going into the appropriate kernel source subdirectory, and "make"ing. [04:09] Alternatively, if you've already built the kernel, you could try making it again without cleaning the already built stuff. [04:10] But that could have wierd effects. As could just building the appropriate subdirectory, I suppose :) [04:10] I'd like to stay as close to a standard, auto-upgradeable Ubuntu kernel if possible. [04:10] Well, your module isn't going to be auto-upgradeable no matter what you do. [04:11] So, I'd try my first suggestion. Get the ubuntu kernel source, change the config, go to the appropriate subdirectory for your module, and make it. === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] Is it possible to have the _kernel_ upgrade on it's own, and just have to go fix the module manually, or will I be out of happy-apt-land altogether? [04:12] Oh, the kernel will upgrade on its own. [04:12] And break your module in the process, so you'll need to re-build it. [04:12] ah, that's fine [04:14] StevenK: About cyrus21-imapd and libsnmp: While it builds without the library, I would rather either build a testcase that shows it really doesn't need it for identical behaviour, or hunt down why ./configure is testing for libsnmp, and how the MIBs are build and installed to perhaps fix the problem with the SNMP support. === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] beep beep! [04:15] One possibility (not yet confirmed) is that it would prefer to use mib2c or net-snmp-config to do things, or perhaps it just references the MIB configuration tables. If it's not a functionality issue, I'd prefer to understand the problem and fix it, rather than going for the quick solution. 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[05:05] no Ubuntu though :/ === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] that's expected [05:06] I know, but still ;-) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] Walbuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:16] LaserJock: How do I get the big Ubuntu Developer red badge of courage on the forums? [05:16] ScottK: jdong hooked me up [05:16] ask a forum admin person [05:16] LaserJock: thanks. [05:18] ScottK: you need to embark on an arduous quest, long & perilous === ajmitch still isn't a true developer [05:19] ajmitch: Then I don't wanna do it. I want it to be easy, quick, painless, and have a pony. [05:23] jdong: Where are you... How about hooking me up for Ubuntu Forums (forum user ID is kitterma) [05:24] I'm a peon, woo! [05:25] heh [05:25] now that I'm a core-dev I think I'll move on to becoming a peon [05:26] Peon has less work associated with it. [05:26] "5 Cups of Ubuntu" [05:26] I rock [05:26] sweet === ScottK is still on his first cup. [05:27] I don't drink, sorry. [05:27] I get IV infusions [05:27] ugh, the UF has that obnoxious modal dialog [05:28] "Are you sure you want to log out?" [05:28] Of course. UF are so wonderful why would you ever want to do that. [05:28] why no, I intentionally accidentally clicked the hyperlink [05:28] somerville32: Are they at least good IV infusions? [05:29] crimsun: Of course. [05:30] I don't want to be Judged but I hope Ubuntu infused with a minimum amount of much needed human nutrients is acceptable. [05:30] somerville32: As long as caffeine qualifies as a much needed human nutrient, then I'm good. === man-di [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-193-079.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmr0 [n=cbladow@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [n=predius@190.8.154.185] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal kicks scipy [06:20] hiya Hobbsee [06:20] nixternal: don't kick too hard, it might kick back [06:20] hiya! [06:20] I think it is kicking back [06:21] hi Hobbsee [06:21] heh. the warning was too late! [06:21] hiya LaserJock :) [06:21] build baby build!!! [06:22] it wont [06:24] hello Hobbsee [06:25] hi ajmitch [06:25] ajmitch: still causing trouble? [06:25] yes [06:25] always [06:27] Hobbsee: managed to get out of work yet? [06:28] ajmitch: not yet...i havent actually been near there - only a floor higher than it [06:29] I'm sure you can avoid it somehow [06:29] got everything ready for gutsy release? [06:30] nope [06:30] not even tribe 2 [06:30] is there a kernel backports archive? === Hobbsee has been studying a bit. [06:30] and then went shopping :P [06:31] studying? [06:31] why? [06:31] aren't exams over there yet? [06:31] it's exam time [06:31] jmg_: interesting [06:32] jmg_: i never thought about that [06:32] they've finished at uni here [06:32] jmg_: if there was a kernel backports archive [06:32] joejaxx: i need it === ajmitch has flatmates who are lazing about, doing nothing all day now [06:32] jmg: what are you on now? [06:32] They're still on at my uni, but I didn't care since the two subjects I did don't require final exams. [06:32] joejaxx: feisty, but gutsy breaks my laptop [06:32] jmg: ah === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] ah, loldebian [06:33] http://loldebian.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/now-i-has-a-pony/ [06:34] lol [06:34] Oh yes, madduck [06:34] i need the gutsy kernel because of bug 117282 [06:34] Launchpad bug 117282 in linux-source-2.6.20 "2gb SD card not usable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117282 [06:34] ajmitch: hahaha [06:35] but then i also need modules-restricted [06:36] libc6 dependency? [06:36] ajmitch: http://loldebian.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/i-is-sunning/ [06:37] joejaxx: yes, I've seen them all [06:37] jmg: it'd be fairly trivial to install the kernel & rebuild linux-{restricted,ubuntu}-modules [06:37] http://loldebian.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/we_are_debian.png <- illegal use of genie logo [06:38] ajmitch: isnt restricted-modules build a black art? [06:38] no [06:38] it's as trivial as any package build [06:39] the black art is getting things built in order & updated with the right ABI versioning when it's bumped [06:39] hmm [06:39] which you won't have to worry about [06:39] If something like Openoffice.org's package building could be called trivial. [06:39] can i just download the gutsy source and dpkg-buildpackage? [06:40] yes [06:40] ah [06:40] plus build-deps, etc [06:40] but i need to tell it not to build every kernel variant [06:40] obviously [06:42] does that just mean commenting the lines in control? [06:44] no, there's a gutsy-specific way of doing it [06:44] look on the wiki for details [06:44] the kernel packaging was redone for gutsy === nixternal hugs scipy === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@24-119-100-168.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] nixternal: wasn't it kicking you earlier? :) [06:55] yup, but I kicked back and fixed her. Now I can debdiff it and get it uploaded === nixternal finishes this application === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nxvl [n=nxvl@barovia.aureal.com.pe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] blah [07:02] I knew LP was down and I still went there [07:02] haha [07:02] so did i, dont worry [07:02] it's become so central to my life [07:02] that's scary [07:03] admitting it is the first step to recovery. [07:03] I know, I know === ajmitch doesn't need it === ajmitch has broken free [07:04] I, too, will be unplugged from the matrix soon. [07:04] [07:05] (which, interestingly enough, is a permutation of my first name...) [07:05] funny, the number of people that say (on forums, various 'news' sites like osnews) that kubuntu should be delayed for kde 4.0 [07:05] haha [07:05] ScottK: I have this patch, however LP is down for who knows how long [07:05] I suspect that they may have unrealistic expectations of kde4 [07:05] LaserJock: haha, I didn't, saw your comment, and then went ;p [07:06] [14:38] < mthaddon> Launchpad is going down in 15 mins for a code update. [07:06] Estimated downtime is approx 30 mins [07:06] nixternal: ^ [07:06] lp should have a better down message. [07:06] like a lolcat. [07:06] NO === StevenK kills jmg [07:06] k, when it is back up, I will have a present waiting there for yoU :D [07:06] nixternal: think of it as a weekly manager-enforced workrave. === jmg parrys the kill and ripostes with a destroy === StevenK deflects the destroy and hits back with genocide. === jmg dispels genocide and casts finger of death === ajmitch wonders if we'll have snow on the ground in the morning === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] hello Yagisan [07:07] hi Yagisan [07:07] save vs. wands or die! [07:07] G'day ajmitch, Hobbsee === StevenK waves to Yagisan === Yagisan waves back [07:09] ajmitch, Hobbsee, StevenK - what graphics chips are you guys using in your ubuntu boxes ? [07:10] hey Yagisan, LTNS [07:10] salt and vinegar === Yagisan is writting an opengl graphics libarary [07:10] my favorite kind [07:10] crimsun, it is. everyyone wants all my free time === lavar1917 [n=zach@adsl-75-26-196-227.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] Yagisan: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [07:11] nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600] [07:11] and a 915GM in the laptop === k1gw1 [n=k1gwb@ip68-103-141-134.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] nice chips I don't have in my database [07:11] I am with Hobbsee on that one :) same here === nixternal hugs the freedom [07:11] i915 is *really* common [07:11] Hobbsee, ajmitch - could I trouble you to pm me the output from glxinfo -l [07:12] you may === Student [i=Student@ool-4352f506.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] Yagisan: http://rafb.net/p/oARHgu31.html [07:13] free time? [07:13] thanks Hobbsee [07:13] whats that? [07:13] Yagisan: no problem [07:13] jmg, what I had when I could go to UDU - such a long time ago [07:14] Aside from invalid fstab and menu.lst entries, is there anything else that could cause the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" boot error? === asimon_ [n=asimon@dslb-084-058-234-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] I got an interesting email from my isp [07:16] the claim I never paid their relocation fee [07:16] fun [07:16] no this is interesting, because every month without fail - they direct debit the monthly charge from my account [07:17] I checked - and the indeed did not debit the relocation fee === lavar1917 [n=zach@adsl-75-26-196-227.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] so I've sent them a reply - thank you for the free relocation - I assume you failure to debit is compensation for the inadequate service you have provided. [07:18] when automount makes an icon on my desktop, what package opens when i click on Properties on the "right-click" menu? [07:18] haha, nice [07:19] now I hope iinet or someone gets adsl2 here - because I really want to switch [07:19] Don't switch to iinet. [07:20] Student: well, sure. I ran into it this morning with an older Breezy install where /dev/hda1 became /dev/hdb1 due to a race with USB mass storage. [07:20] StevenK, surely someone is better then TPG [07:20] Student: however, this channel isn't appropriate for it; you likely want #ubuntu. [07:20] Yagisan: I quite like Exetel. [07:20] ScottK: bug 121398 is all yours :) [07:20] Launchpad bug 121398 in python-scipy "Python-scipy 0.5.2-9ubuntu2 built without umfpack module" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121398 [07:21] Hobbsee, ajmitch - intel has 8 texture units available for fixed function opengl ?! - [07:22] Yagisan: no idea [07:22] I just use the laptop, I don't care what goes on inside [07:22] crimsun, Heh, thanks, but they told me to look here, because no one over there knows how to fix it. I'v been going there for 2 days straight and I even posted on the forums - no one can figure it out. Sorry to have bothered you, not my intention, but I was desparate. [07:23] ajmitch, thats what your output says. I need to fix some bad design assumptions in my spec === Yagisan has a course on opengl starting soon - so he is writing his support libs now to save time [07:23] lucky you [07:23] application complete and sent! [07:23] what were you assuming? [07:24] ajmitch, 4 [07:24] 4 max, and 2 average [07:24] interesting [07:25] how many in the nvidia chip? [07:25] 4 fixed function - 16 via shaders === Yagisan has chips with 3 (ati) or 4 (nvidia here) [07:29] now that is interesting. Intel opensource drivers have texture compression - ATI opensource drivers do not. [07:29] if you can trust the output from my laptop [07:30] ajmitch, Hobbsee's confirms it [07:31] ok === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-081-128.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-081-128.sc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === cynics [n=freeflyi@123.116.99.167] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan needs a keyboard for bub to type on - his help isn't very helpful === k1gw1 [n=k1gwb@ip68-103-141-134.ks.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-16-77.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] You gotta love electrical work being done. [08:11] hehe === hjmf [n=hjmf@138.Red-83-45-117.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] TheMuso: How much longer are the renevations going on for? [08:14] StevenK: Another couple of weeks or so. [08:15] The worst is over however. [08:16] StevenK: We had power off for so long today because our power board was being stripped back and upgraded. [08:16] Ah === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] I find it amusing when electrians talk of "upgrading" a distribution board. [08:17] That's not an upgrade, it's removing the old bit and putting something new in! [08:17] heh [08:18] Anyways, its all circuite brakers with safety switches now. === StevenK nods. [08:19] There's five or six seperate circuits at my place, which surprised me when the electrian pointed it out. [08:19] There was also bodgy cabling on one of the power point circuites that needed replacing. Seems like one of the previous ownsers had work done, and lighting cable was used for a power point circuite. [08:19] Hah, nice. [08:19] Oh yeah. === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] We have a little bit of dodgy cabling at our place. The previous owner was 1) an electrical contractor, and 2) a big DIY kind of guy. Do the math. :-/ [08:20] StevenK: Why did it surprise you? [08:21] TheMuso: Given the age of the house, I was expecting one circuit for all of the powerpoints, and another for the lights. [08:21] TheMuso: Instead, there's two each for powerpoints and lights, one for the air con, and I think another for the oven and stove. [08:22] StevenK: it could be worse [08:22] ajmitch: Oh? === hjmf [n=hjmf@138.Red-83-45-117.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] StevenK: Stoves always have their own circuites. [08:23] There is a good chance also that your aircon may use more than one phase [08:23] it could have been a really incompetent electrical contractor === ajmitch has heard various horror stories [08:23] ajmitch: From all accounts, he was kind of. [08:24] std::string operator()(const std::string &word) const; [08:24] Damn my C++ knowledge. [08:24] How do I call that? [08:25] apprehensively [08:25] Hah [08:26] I'm guessing it's the same as __call__ for Python. [08:26] It is. [08:26] Neat. [08:26] So whateverobject(some_string_reference) === \sh_away is now known as \sh === StevenK nods. [08:27] Patch hacked, we'll see if it builds now. [08:27] sigh, snow [08:28] as if it snows [08:28] jml: cold in tasmania yet? [08:28] freezing [08:29] but only in the conversational, non-technical sense === Fujitsu wishes we got some snow around here. [08:29] now imagine dunedin... [08:29] there's snow on Mt Wellington [08:29] ajmitch: when I was visiting, the weather was about the same in Dunners as here. [08:29] I don't think it's snowing yet tonight, but it's meant to [08:29] And what's bad about snow? [08:29] Its snowed on the mountains in the last few days. [08:29] StevenK: it's cold [08:29] Only localized, but yeah. [08:29] and I have to go outside in 15 minutes [08:30] It's hit 5 degrees here over the last few nights. [08:30] wow [08:30] I didn't think it was possible [08:30] StevenK: It hasn't felt much more than that up her. [08:30] at times [08:30] I think we have have got up to 5 degrees here today === Monk-e [i=guido-de@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] ajmitch: Oh its possible, where I used to live, we used to get 1-2 degrees. [08:30] it was about 3 degrees at 3pm [08:31] government says it's 5 degrees now [08:31] but that's probably what they want us to believe [08:31] jml: and you trust them!? [08:31] It only got down to 7.9 degrees degrees overnight, but it was 0.1 when I left the house at 7am a week ago. === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] highvoltage: wouldn't you trust your government? [08:32] hint: they're probably reading what you type right now [08:32] Fujitsu: Sigh. That gives me: error: 'pStemmer' cannot be used as a function === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] StevenK: The method isn't static or anything strange like that? [08:34] Fujitsu: It's const, but not static [08:34] ajmitch: no way! [08:34] ajmitch: I wouldn't be surprised if they did :) [08:37] Fujitsu: Any ideas? [08:39] StevenK: You are trying to execute an instance and not the class, right? [08:40] I'm not certain. [08:40] Can you pastebin the code that's failing? [08:40] Not easily, it being 1,606 lines. [08:40] Ah. [08:41] It does: Xapian::Stem *pStemmer = NULL; and then pStemmer = new Xapian::Stem(...); [08:41] So I'm guessing that I'm playing with an instance. [08:42] And Xapian::Stem is the class that has operator()? [08:42] If so, that should be working. === apacheLAGger [n=me@N802P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] Yes. [08:44] pStemmer(term); [08:44] And that's what I'm calling. [08:51] Fujitsu: Can I point you at the package and my patch? [08:53] StevenK: Sure. [08:54] I might be a little laggy, due to preparing for the school formal tomorrow night. [08:54] Oh, pish posh. [08:55] Fujitsu: Do you have a date? [08:55] Fujitsu: are you going to get pictures? === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75E5A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55]