[12:01] <abduliounited> sugur king!! I dont want to change my msn password.
[12:01] <Slart> fnordperfect: sounds very weird.. never had a cd/dvd writer behave that way... been storing icecream in it? ;)
[12:01] <bur[n] er> bryman: no link, just run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy" or here's a link..  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:01] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: good investment
[12:01] <fnordperfect> not yet, but I might try that next ;-)
[12:01] <bryman> burner: ty very much i'm tryin that now
[12:02] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: got it installed?
[12:02] <fnordperfect> it's LG (NEC?), I think it's firmware might have been written by some guy with a sick sense of humor..
[12:02] <Evan_> yo, does anyone here know java?
[12:02] <Slart> fnordperfect: I could imagine there being 2 little electronic gnomes inside.. one doing the cd-thing, and one doing the dvd thing.. perhaps the cd-gnome is dead?
[12:02] <Netham45> help! I have a problem!
[12:02] <Netham45> :)
[12:02] <fnordperfect> but how do I upgrade a firmware without having Windows?
[12:02] <MrFeetio> how can i access my other ubuntu partions(i have 7.04 and 7.10)
[12:02] <TheCougar> sweet got it thanks
[12:02] <Niroog> does anyone know where can i find the new AMSN0.97RC .deb ?
[12:02] <bur[n] er> fnordperfect: I'd take that up with your manufacturer
[12:03] <brad016> Music_Shuffle, thanx frostware seems to be working
[12:03] <Netham45> whenever I open Openarena, it kills my X server.
[12:03] <Slart> fnordperfect: can't you boot from something.. freedos or similar
[12:03] <bryman> burner: just did time for a restart?
[12:03] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: doing now
[12:03] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, 'grats :)
[12:03] <bur[n] er> bryman: no restart... just do "ctrl+alt+backspace" to restart X
[12:03] <Netham45> anyone else have a problem w/ Openarena and a dying X server?
[12:03] <fnordperfect> LG's website does not provide firmwares for this drive (anymore). I found it on the web, though, but it's a windows executable... :-(
[12:04] <ticnailer69> has anyone here set up a ubuntu server? How can I start?
[12:04] <Netham45> anyone know how to keep Openarena from killing X?
[12:04] <brad016> Music_Shuffle, the thing with limewire was it had this blank screen that said it waas doing something and didn't
[12:04] <Slart> fnordperfect: I don't think wine is a good solution for running something like that.. but if the dvd-writer is broken anyways you might try it
[12:04] <bur[n] er> ticnailer69: download the iso, burn it, boot it, install it, install packages to your hearts content, be merry with your new found freedom :)
[12:04] <ticnailer69> wow
[12:04] <ticnailer69> ok
[12:04] <Netham45> lol
[12:05] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Command_and_Conquer:_Generals
[12:05] <askand> Is deluge in ubuntu repositories?
[12:05] <Slart> askand: nope
[12:05] <bur[n] er> askand: not anymore... deluge-torrent.org has packages for feisty though
[12:05] <Slart> askand: you'll have to find a package somewhere else or compile it from source
[12:05] <askand> bur[n] er: ok thanks
[12:05] <Niroog> does anyone here know where can i find the .deb of new amsn0.97RC ?
[12:06] <fnordperfect> Slart: err, I think running wine with root privileges is a terrible idea. I also doubt that this will work..
[12:06] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: looks like Zero Hour works too, but there isn't a wiki node for it.... high playability rating though, so it must not be too much trouble to get running
[12:06] <bruce_> tum tum tum, tum tum....
[12:06] <Slart> has anyone tried deluge? is it nice? second time I've seen someone ask for it
[12:06] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: cool, thx
[12:06] <askand> bur[n] er: cant find feisty package?
[12:06] <bur[n] er> askand: it's hard to find.. try this..  http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/deb/feisty/
[12:06] <Slart> fnordperfect: yes.. I agree
[12:06] <bur[n] er> askand: i notice that... anyoen know if zachtibbs is an ircer?
[12:07] <askand> bur[n] er: ill try that
[12:07] <ivan_> does anyone know about a chat client that is not amsn or gaim? cuz both suck
[12:08] <Slart> chat? im you mean?
[12:08] <Netham45> openarena crashes my X. can someone help? that is all the info I can give atm.
[12:08] <Slart> ivan_: pidgin
[12:08] <fnordperfect> pidgin is just gaim with a new name.
[12:08] <ivan_> slart: better than both?
[12:08] <Slart> yes.. of course.. but it's newer =)
[12:08] <Niroog> Slart, pidgin is more of the same as gaim
[12:08] <Niroog> :P
[12:08] <ivan_> cool ill try it
[12:08] <barawrks> Welcome to another edition of the internet
[12:08] <Slart> ivan_: what else.. gaim.. pidgin.. what else.. kpoete is one
[12:08] <Slart> kopete I meant
[12:09] <Hubris2> Can multiple users have simultaneous SSL connections to the same linux box on port 22, or does each SSL require a unique port?
[12:09] <barawrks> Kopete...
[12:09] <fnordperfect> ivan_: kopete is a nice idea, it supports the MSN protocol pretty well (whcih is a shame, since it sux for ICQ)
[12:09] <Netham45> SOMEONE HELP ME OR I SHALL SLAY A BUNNY!
[12:09] <Netham45> :D
[12:09] <Music_Shuffle> !caps
[12:09] <joh_n> Hey. Well no luck. It worked for about 10 min, and then my internet just died again. It's getting really annoying.
[12:09] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:09] <barawrks> Does anyone still use ICQ?
[12:09] <Slart> Netham45: let'im have it
[12:09] <bryman> ok now the nvidia driver is running and the windows aren't acting up, how do i get the resolution higher (i know how to get to resolution, but its only showing up at 640x480 or 800x600.. i'm used to 1280 =/
[12:09] <Music_Shuffle> As long as its an ugly bunny.
[12:10] <joh_n> Edit the xorg.conf file
[12:11] <daren> bur[n] er: Second cd fails the cd check, too :( Can I install this image via network ?
[12:11] <ivan_> fnordperfect: ok thank ill try it
[12:12] <joh_n> Can anyone help me with my internet?
[12:12] <VirtualMachine> hello everybody...
[12:12] <Hairulfr> joh_n: What is the problem?
[12:12] <carrot_> How can I install flash for firefox on my 64bit machine?
[12:13] <ticnailer69> with installing the ubuntu server: Do I have to choose an option to opt for the server fuction when I boot the disk or can I just make the machine a server when the desktop version is already installed?
[12:13] <jrib> carrot_: http://www.janvitus.netsons.org/2007/01/15/nspluginwrapper-adobe-flash-player/
[12:13] <bur[n] er> daren: i've never done it :\
[12:13] <VirtualMachine> i've got a huuuuuge problem... grub just hangs  while displaying  "Starting up.." whats the problem?
[12:13] <bur[n] er> ticnailer69: you can start with a desktop and just add servers
[12:13] <ticnailer69> tight
[12:13] <Commander-Ape> im wondering why I cant access my apache - server from outside. does this netstat -tulpen look normal?
[12:13] <Commander-Ape> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     0          36963      13239/apache2
[12:13] <bur[n] er> ticnailer69: that way you'll get a gui to begin with :)
[12:14] <bur[n] er> Commander-Ape: you forward port 80 to your server?
[12:14] <Commander-Ape> on my router? yes.
[12:14] <ivan_> from where do i install kopete
[12:14] <Netham45> should I kill the bunny?
[12:14] <Commander-Ape> it worked until i reinstalled ubuntu
[12:14] <jrib> !software > ivan_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:14] <Netham45> should the bunny die?
[12:14] <jrib> !offtopic | Netham45
[12:14] <ubotu> Netham45: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:14] <joh_n> My wireless internet keeps dying on me. I tried to clear iptables but no luck. It works for a little while and then goes out. I don't know if its a driver issue, DNS issue, or what. And I'm using WIDC, not the network-manager that comes with Ubuntu.
[12:14] <bur[n] er> Commander-Ape: maybe your router doesn't forward port 80 even though it gives no errors... try apache on a different port... like 800
[12:14] <ivan_> !kopete
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <joh_n> wicd*
[12:15] <bryman> hey burner what was that legacy code again?
[12:15] <Commander-Ape> bur[n] er: should this test https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=80 say stealth?
[12:15] <bur[n] er> joh_n: why not use network manager?
[12:15] <ticnailer69> so after having the guo I can just add some drivers or plug ins by installing from the command line?
[12:15] <ticnailer69> gui*
[12:15] <Commander-Ape> bur[n] er: because it does
[12:15] <bur[n] er> Commander-Ape: nope... open
[12:16] <joh_n> It gave me trouble to, so I switched to see if it would make a difference, only reason.
[12:16] <bur[n] er> Commander-Ape: like i said man, prolly a crappy router ;)
[12:16] <fnordperfect> ivan_: It's a KDE application, perhaps it's in the multiverse repository
[12:16] <Commander-Ape> ill check on that
[12:16] <bur[n] er> Commander-Ape: you can edit your apache's conf file to change the port it listens on
[12:16] <bur[n] er> !info kopete
[12:16] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[12:16] <ivan_> fnordperfect: you are talking to a complete noob, i got 5 days with ubuntu
[12:16] <bur[n] er> ivan_: open "add/remove" and search for "kopete"
[12:17] <ivan_> ok
[12:17] <barawrks> ivan_> Num num nubcake ^^
[12:17] <Commander-Ape> bur[n] er: okay. ill change it...
[12:17] <Netham45> does anyone know why Openarena kills X while glxgears works fine?
[12:17] <daren> mount myimage.iso myfolder -o loop << howto add access for all users ?
[12:17] <bur[n] er> daren: chmod 777 myfolder
[12:18] <bryman> my resolution doesn't get any higher then 800x600, am i screwed?
[12:18] <daren> bur[n] er: Then I get the error that this is mounted read-only
[12:18] <v> Gw is updating :D
[12:18] <ivan_> does anyone know about downloading utorrent for ubuntu?
[12:18] <v> Finally :d
[12:18] <bur[n] er> daren: oh... man mount ;)  search for loop
[12:19] <bur[n] er> ivan_: you can, but deluge-torrent is native to linux :)
[12:19] <bur[n] er> !deluge
[12:19] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[12:19] <bur[n] er> gr... we need a link to the download in ubotu... can someone fix the deluge entry to point to http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/
[12:20] <joh_n> Hairulfr, can you please help me to reset and re-install all internet settings, try to get a fresh start, maybe it'll fix it
[12:20] <bryman> yes please do ghost auk =D
[12:20] <fnordperfect> daren: mount myimage.iso myfolder -o loop,gid=<group-number> (e.g. 100) might work
[12:20] <ivan_> cool thanks
[12:20] <bur[n] er> np
[12:21] <fnordperfect> daren: but for mounting ISO images as normal user I would recommend using FUSE and fuseiso instead of mounting it as a loop device
[12:22] <daren> fnordperfect: Why ?
[12:22] <Bassetts> are the repositories down or something?
[12:22] <Bassetts> I keep getting errors when reloading the repos
[12:22] <Ghost_Auk> Bassetts:  .. have been having problems myself in getting stuff ...
[12:22] <jima21742> Got a question from a real newbie :-)   (I just installed Ubuntu today)  :  I'm trying to setup some share folders with username and passwords but because I'm not root I can't change permissions.  How can I do this?
[12:23] <fnordperfect> daren: I dunno. it's a matter of comfortability. for example, you don't need root privileges for mounting the image
[12:24] <Yasumoto> jima21742: try opeing up the command prompt, and type in "sudo nautilus" without the quotes. that _might_ work (i'm not at home right now, so we'll see ...)
[12:24] <TheCreationist> After upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?
[12:24] <nadia007> I'm trying to mount a server 2003 share on feisty.   been trying cifs but I'm not having very much luck... wondering if someone can help me out!
[12:24] <bur[n] er> jima21742: you can use sudo... "gksudo nautilus" or just share files from your home directory which you do have access to
[12:24] <Wood1> I've just downloaded the binary drivers for an IPW2100 wireless card and read the readme, I don't even understand it.  Is there a simple way to install the driver? some sort of installation routine?
[12:24] <Rafeiro> nadia007,  have u tried smbfs?
[12:25] <bur[n] er> Wood1: you don't need them
[12:25] <Lycus> Does anyone know how to download code from a CVS listing on sourceforge?
[12:25] <Bassetts> anyone else been having troubles with the repos
[12:25] <nadia007> Rafeiro: yeah... and that gives me errors as well.
[12:25] <bur[n] er> Wood1: ipw2100's just work with feisty (even "just work with old old old versions of ubuntu")
[12:25] <Rafeiro> what kind? is it a pdc or dc?
[12:25] <jima21742> These are existing folders that are/were used by win2003 on our network
[12:25] <Wood1> It doesn't seem to be working with this feisty
[12:25] <bur[n] er> jima21742: just put them in /home/username/ :)
[12:25] <Wood1> I haven't been able to get it to do anything
[12:26] <bur[n] er> jima21742: and "sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/username/moveddirectory"
[12:26] <Wasser> hi! idiotic question here xD
[12:26] <nadia007> Rafeiro: I'm trying to mount the share on the pdc
[12:26] <jima21742> Bur[n] er the home harddrive isn't large enough
[12:26] <bur[n] er> Wood1: is it turned on in the hardware?  with a button on the outside somewhere?
[12:26] <Wood1> The light is on indicating it is on, but when I do a iwconfig, it shows as off.
[12:26] <bur[n] er> jima21742: aww... in that case... chown and chmod are the options via term... or use gksudo nautilus to launch the file manager with root priveleges
[12:27] <bur[n] er> Wood1: you dn't have network manager?
[12:27] <Wood1> I do
[12:27] <Wasser> I'm new to Ubuntu and I wanted to know if I can run it without installing via a USB drive
[12:27] <bur[n] er> Wasser: burn the livecd and just boot it
[12:27] <Wood1> but no matter how I set it, it fails
[12:28] <carrot_> how come with i do apt-get install nspluginwrapper it is not found?
[12:28] <jrib> carrot_: did you add janvitus' repository?
[12:28] <bur[n] er> wood it doesn't just show the wireless networks in the area?
[12:28] <bur[n] er> Wood1: what version of ubuntu?
[12:28] <Bassetts> ok I think irssi will work now
[12:28] <carrot_> jrib, no how do i add the janvitus repository
[12:28] <Bassetts> are some of the repos down?
[12:28] <Wood1> feisty
[12:28] <jrib> carrot_: http://www.janvitus.netsons.org/2007/01/15/nspluginwrapper-adobe-flash-player/
[12:28] <bur[n] er> carrot_: apt-cache search nsplugin
[12:28] <jrib> carrot_: at the top, there should be a tab that says "repository"
[12:29] <TheCreationist> After upgrading to Feisty, I no longer have support for my CD writer.  I need to burn an ISO of Ubuntu and try a fresh install, but without a burner, I'm stuck with a broken system.  What can I do?
[12:29] <Wasser> bur[n] er: isn't there a way to run it over a USB drive?
[12:29] <carrot_> konqueror-nsplugins - Netscape plugin support for Konqueror
[12:29] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: i find it hard to believe upgrading to feisty broke the cd burner... how do you mean it's broken?  tried gnomebaker? nautilus? graveman? k3b?
[12:29] <bur[n] er> Wasser: there is, but why when the livecd will do the same
[12:30] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: It no longer appears in attached hardware, and k3b says that no burner is attached.
[12:30] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: the BIOS see it?
[12:30] <Netham45> wow, when I switched from Windows, my download speeds went up an average of 1 MB /s
[12:30] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Yes.  And it worked flawlessly under Edgy.
[12:30] <Wasser> bur[n] er: because I don't have a burner :P
[12:30] <carrot_> jrib, he says to add his repo but does not list the address or explain how to add it
[12:30] <jrib> carrot_: at the top, there should be a tab that says "repository"
[12:30] <daren> Howto cancel the "installation of base system" when I'm trying to install via cd ? because I want to select http install
[12:30] <bryman> after i run 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy' what do i do? =] 
[12:30] <MarcN> Anyone using ubuntu-xen-desktop and restricted kernel modules?
[12:31] <jima21742> Bur[n] er I got the root file browser open but that harddrive isn't showing up in there?
[12:31] <Netham45> anyone here on a Matrox G400 Dualhead?
[12:31] <novato_br> dudes, how can I copy dvd protect on ubuntu ?
[12:31] <Bassetts> daren: do you mean a server install?
[12:31] <carrot_> uPure64 Repository
[12:31] <carrot_> that one?
[12:31] <novato_br> i buy one dvd, but i cant copy to my HD
[12:31] <novato_br> how can I get this ?
[12:31] <jrib> carrot_: yes, but if you don't want to add the repository, you can just download http://janvitus.interfree.it/ubuntu/pool/feisty-upure64/main-amd64/nspluginwrapper_0.9.91.4-0ubuntu2~janvitus_amd64.deb and double click on it
[12:32] <Netham45> can anyone help me get the graphics driver mga_hal installed?
[12:32] <Netham45> I need it for my dualhead G400
[12:32] <Ravenndude`> Ok, here's an odd one on My bro's laptop (acer 3680) with fiesty on it. I got sound working, and I got it so that the volume for the headphones and internal laptop speakers are on different volume controls. Can I have it so that when I plug in the headphones, the laptop speakers are muted?
[12:32] <Netham45> :D
[12:32] <novato_br> !copydvd
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copydvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <novato_br> !copy dvd
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copy dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <askand> Somehow I manage to create some kind of link to places in the placesmenu..how did I do that?
[12:32] <novato_br> !dvd
[12:32] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:32] <daren> Bassetts: ? I try this now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2493&postcount=2
[12:32] <sid32> hey.. I was wondering if someone could help me with my sound
[12:32] <sid32> It was working fine, I reboot and now no sound
[12:33] <daren> but I dont know what "2. )Boot the Ubuntu CD and let the cdrom fail at stage 1." means
[12:33] <jrib> askand: add a bookmark in nautilus
[12:33] <ivan_> !awn
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <sid32> I set sound to multichannel and I can test it and it works
[12:33] <sid32> but no sounds anywhere else
[12:33] <ivan_> !avant winows navigator
[12:33] <askand> jrib: thanks!
[12:33] <Bassetts> daren: I do not know about that sorry, read the guide it explains it
[12:33] <bur[n] er> sid32: prolly don't have mp3 support?  the .ogg in the Examples folder work?
[12:34] <sid32> mp3, avi, ogg all worked
[12:34] <sid32> I just rebooted
[12:34] <sid32> and now nothing
[12:34] <sid32> thats 3-4 different programs and nothing
[12:34] <Hyarion2> Has anyone encountered random(?) freezings with Ubuntu? Everything is frozen except the mouse, I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[12:34] <Brucevdk> Question, even though I have set screen blanking / standby mode to never through the GUI (gnome-power-manager) it still happens after about an hour. Anything I can do to prevent this?
[12:34] <jima21742> Bur[n] er  I have the root file manager open but that hard drive isn't showing up??
[12:34] <bur[n] er> jima21742: it shows up for the user though?
[12:35] <rockets> I'm in the google building right now :-D
[12:35] <jima21742> yes
[12:35] <gilo2> how can I tell what the date of my kernel is?
[12:35] <jima21742> and the user can browse it
[12:35] <bur[n] er> jima21742: where is it mounted?  /media/something ?
[12:35] <rockets> gilo2, the build date?
[12:35] <gilo2> yes
[12:35] <rockets> gilo2, hmm
[12:35] <woodyn88> was woody1, now Woody
[12:35] <rockets> uname -a doesnt give it?
[12:36] <novato_br> how can I make dvd rip ?
[12:36] <gilo2> I've got an older kernel and I know there are some vulnerabilities and I want to see how old it is.
[12:36] <whyameye> is there an easy way to know if feisty has Python2.2 and wxWidgets 2.4 in its repos? Those versions are ancient but the code I have runs only with those.
[12:36] <novato_br> what is the software?
[12:36] <jima21742> yea /media/sdb5
[12:36] <bur[n] er> novato_br: thoggen!
[12:36] <bur[n] er> novato_br: thoggen goes from dvd to ogg... it's sooooooo easy and sweet :)
[12:37] <jima21742> sorry so slow to respond...have to find my way around!!
[12:37] <novato_br> i want ogg
[12:37] <jima21742> bur[n] er it's in /media/sdb5
[12:37] <novato_br> I want just one COPY of DVD
[12:37] <novato_br> on HD
[12:37] <novato_br> I want just one COPY of DVD on HD
[12:37] <bur[n] er> novato_br: get a vob ripper
[12:37] <novato_br> vob ripper?
[12:37] <novato_br> is it program?
[12:38] <Ravenndude`> novato_br, Is it encrypted (like a movie)?
[12:38] <Ravenndude`> or a data DVD
[12:38] <novato_br> yep, Ravenndude`
[12:38] <Brucevdk> anybody know the name of that japanese method of commiting suicide where all your guts come gushing out?
[12:38] <novato_br> encrypted movie
[12:38] <Ravenndude`> Brucevdk, Seppuku
[12:38] <novato_br> it's dvd with encrypted movie
[12:38] <gilo2> novato_br check out the www.doom9.org it's a good informational site.
[12:38] <Brucevdk> ah thanks Ravenndude`
[12:38] <Ravenndude`> lol
[12:38] <novato_br> dudes, plz, i want the names of software to rip dvd for my hd, so just
[12:38] <Ravenndude`> preforms* seppuku
[12:39] <woodyn88> bur[n] er I took off all the security on the router, opened network manager and put the card in roaming mode, there is a - in the box next to wireless connection and it will not change
[12:39] <jima21742> bur[n] er ........please help
[12:39] <bur[n] er> novato_br: not sure any gui apps to do it... I just use thoggen to make ogg theoras
[12:39] <Brucevdk> only in this day and age we can consult Wikipedia for a howto on commiting suicide using obscure methods
[12:39] <bur[n] er> jima21742: navate to /media/sdbblah under the sudo'd nautilus
[12:39] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Yes.  And it worked flawlessly under Edgy.
[12:40] <TheCreationist> sorry
[12:40] <nj786> how do u rip a dvd from dvd:rip
[12:40] <jima21742> bur[n] er how?
[12:40] <bur[n] er> jima21742: ctrl+l and type /media
[12:40] <bur[n] er> jima21742: that's an "l" as in lion
[12:40] <nj786> how do u rip a dvd from dvd:rip??
[12:40] <daren> Can I install ubuntu from a ipod ?
[12:41] <Brucevdk> rawwwwwrrrr
[12:41] <Ravenndude`> novato_br, see if http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478102&highlight=rip+dvd helps you
[12:41] <Ravenndude`> daren,  if your computer can boot from USB, I don't see why not.
[12:41] <jima21742> !!  That got it........many thanks!!
[12:41] <novato_br> thx, Ravenndude`
[12:42] <daren> Ravenndude`: Did I only have to extract the iso to the ipod ?
[12:42] <bur[n] er> "maybe it was god TheCreationist?" says bur[n] er theAtheist
[12:43] <bur[n] er> :)  just playin... i have no idea why a cd burner would die from an upgrade though
[12:43] <tkooda> can dapper use grub to boot to lvm root?
[12:43] <Ravenndude`> daren,  check out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[12:43] <woodyn88> bur[n] er if I click on the network icon, make new connection, enter the ID of the network, it seems to try for a few minutes then says no network.
[12:43] <nj786> how do u rip a dvd from dvd:rip?
[12:44] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: you have an ubuntu livecd?  you could boot feisty's cd and see if your burner is noticed... if so, copy hte livecd's /etc/fstab
[12:44] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Wasn't just the burner, my sound no longer works either.  And startup takes about 4 minutes now.
[12:44] <Hyarion2> Has anyone encountered random(?) freezings with Ubuntu? Everything is frozen except the mouse, I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[12:44] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Well, I would have a live Cd if I could burn the ISO I downloaded ;)
[12:44] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: sure your upgrade went as planned?  sudo apt-get dist-upgraded all the way?  also... try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ??
[12:45] <nj786> how do u rip a dvd from dvd:rip?
[12:45] <bur[n] er> oh right, forgot the original problem ;)
[12:45] <eo15589> discon
[12:45] <nero> I am running Feisty, and am having a little problem with firefox.  Every 15-20 seconds, it freezes up for a second or two.  Has anyone experienced this?  Any ideas of how to fix it?
[12:45] <woodyn88> Can anyone help me troubleshoot an IPW2100 wireless card?
[12:45] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: You know, actually... the upgrade utility DID crash at the VERY end, but after all steps were done.
[12:45] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: I used the KDE upgrade utility to upgrade.
[12:45] <skarface> nero: have you noted whether or not there is flash content when it freezes?
[12:46] <nero> skarface, no flash content.. :(
[12:46] <joh_n> what can cause random temporary  internet outages on a wireless network?
[12:46] <skarface> nero: do you have many (any) extensions?
[12:46] <Bassetts> is anyone else having problems with the repos?
[12:46] <nero> skarface, just firebug (for debugging web development)
[12:46] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: try the dist-upgrading from a term
[12:47] <daren> Can someone help me here: http://www.pic-share.eu/image/20070621/18ca9aef97.png The text in the "CODE" party, what wrong there ?
[12:47] <daren> A font problem ?
[12:47] <skarface> nero: just shooting for obvious places to look ;)... I've had trouble with firefox the last few months as well.
[12:47] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Says all is updated.
[12:47] <Bassetts> is anyone else having problems with the repos?
[12:47] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: try the ubuntu- packs?
[12:47] <novato_br> how can I install this file: libdvdcss ?
[12:47] <bur[n] er> Bassetts: nope
[12:48] <bur[n] er> !dvd | novato_br
[12:48] <ubotu> novato_br: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:48] <nero> skarface, I appreciate it..  This isn't the best machine in the world (an Athon XP 2600+ with a gig of RAM), but I'd think it could run FF OK.. :/
[12:48] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: I use KDE... same packages but with kubuntu-?
[12:48] <bur[n] er> TheCreationist: yepper :)
[12:48] <daren> Can someone help me here: http://www.pic-share.eu/image/20070621/18ca9aef97.png The text in the "CODE" party, what wrong there ?
[12:49] <wesolek> hello :)
[12:49] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: It could only find the package kubuntu-desktop and it's up-to-date
[12:49] <oslo> hi
[12:49] <wesolek> gosh, this is my first time on IRC :( I feel kinda lost
[12:49] <Brucevdk> oh my god, my balls are swollen what am I supposed to do
[12:49] <dont_drink_water> can some 1 help me i'm trying to get into KDE not gnome how do i do it
[12:49] <bur[n] er> hrmm... TheCreationist, can it even read cdroms?
[12:49] <oslo> i'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool ) (( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))
[12:49] <Student> Can someone help me out?
[12:49] <bur[n] er> !offtopic | Brucevdk
[12:49] <ubotu> Brucevdk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <nj786> how do u rip a dvd from dvd:rip
[12:50] <Brucevdk> thanks ubotu, off to offtopic
[12:50] <Jimmey> Student, hopefully
[12:50] <nj786> if its a rental movie
[12:50] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: No.  It sees my DVD drive just fine, but my burner is nonexistant (not even in /dev/)
[12:50] <wesolek> yes I need some help with my graphics card on ubuntu
[12:50] <bur[n] er> nj786: i swear we see your text... over and over
[12:50] <Jimmey> Student, same problem as last time?
[12:50] <TheCreationist> brb...
[12:50] <Jimmey> wesolek, what's the problem?
[12:50] <nj786> bur(n)er, i mjust trying to figure it out if somebody can help
[12:50] <Student> Jimmey, Yea - you know me?
[12:50] <Ravenndude`> What command can I use to find my IP address in my network?
[12:50] <dont_drink_water> can some 1 help me i'm trying to get into KDE not gnome how do i do it
[12:50] <bur[n] er> nj786: i get it... but space it out a bit ;)  or try the forums
[12:50] <Jimmey> Student, I remember some odd things.
[12:51] <wesolek> I can't get it to work.. x11 works only on vasa (or something like that) drivers
[12:51] <nj786> bur(n)er im sure ppl here know
[12:51] <Jimmey> Student, I have seen some solutions, when I Googled. I'll find them again, but, when it happened to me, I installed Ubuntu on a different HDD, and it worked. Let me find some solutions
[12:51] <Hyarion2> Ravenndude`, ifconfig
[12:51] <nj786> ll
[12:51] <nj786> lol
[12:51] <wesolek> sorry jimmey, I am feeling a bit confused in here :(
[12:51] <nj786> true
[12:51] <Jimmey> wesolek, what brand is your graphics card?
[12:52] <oslo>  on XP with VirtualBox it's quite simple, teh drivers are automaticaly installed; on linux it's becoming a headach for me :S
[12:52] <nj786> bur(n)er what is the forum name?
[12:52] <wesolek> jimmey, it's ATI Radeon IGP320M ALI1535 graphic controller
[12:52] <Student> Jimmey, I looked over those "solutions" too, but those are for guys who are either just insalling feisty or upgrading to it, i'm on Dapper and I have changed nothing.
[12:52] <bur[n] er> nj786: did you see k9copy?  it seems like a better solution than dvd::rip
[12:52] <freeagy> hy
[12:52] <bur[n] er> nj786: ubuntuforums.org
[12:52] <XBehave> olso ubuntu comes with all the drivers that are stable
[12:53] <Jimmey> Student, could any permissons have been changed lately? Can you boot a recovery console?
[12:53] <nj786> bur(n)er but does it allow tpo rip dvd movies for blockbuster?
[12:53] <Jimmey> wesolek, did you install the restricted drivers?
[12:53] <bur[n] er> oslo: i'll help!?!?  what's wrong with yoru drivers?  you run the /etc/init.d/vbox blahblah thing it tells you to?
[12:53] <ivan_> any other software you recomend yo pimpi my desktop? i got screenlets, beryl, kiba dock, and i dont like awn, any more?
[12:53] <wesolek> jimmey, here is what I've done so far... installed those fglrx drivers - x11 didn't start at all, then I installed ati drivers, and the same
[12:53] <Jimmey> ivan_, what's kiba dock?
[12:53] <Jimmey> wesolek, what errors do you get?
[12:53] <oslo> bur[n] er> on Virtual BOX everything is fine
[12:54] <oslo> but i like to do teh same thing on linux
[12:54] <wesolek> jimmey, I think I did, but when I pull up the list of restricted drivers there are only vmware drivers
[12:54] <ivan_> !kiba-dock
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Student> Jimmey, I assume you are reffering to "safe mode" - in which case no, I can't - The ubuntu screen shows up, but then get's stuck a second later with "Mounting filesystem" - then I'm kicked to the (ash) terminal.
[12:54] <wesolek> jimmey, the error message is: no screens found (or something like that)
[12:54] <bur[n] er> oslo: linux running vbox or linux within vbox?
[12:54] <ivan_> Jimmey: its a Mac stylish dock or launchers, look it up on youtube.com
[12:55] <Jimmey> ivan_, thankyou
[12:55] <wesolek> my goodness, jimmey, you must be overwhelmed in here
[12:55] <bur[n] er> ivan_: i've had better luck with AWM
[12:55] <bur[n] er> er.. AWN rather
[12:55] <Jimmey> wesolek, have you installed restriced kernel modules?
[12:55] <Jimmey> Student, so the Ubuntu bootsplash comes up?
[12:55] <wesolek> I've got no clue.. pretty new to linux
[12:56] <bur[n] er> wesolek: you can try doing the whole "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal via ctrl+alt+f1
[12:56] <Jimmey> wesolek, try "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" in a terminal
[12:56] <Student> Jimmey, Yea, for a sec, but gets stuck right on "Mounting filesystem".
[12:56] <ivan_> bur[n] er: well i dont like it to manage my open wndows i just like to use it for launchers, and i dont like that i cant change its position
[12:56] <Bassetts_> Where are the logs kept for synaptic
[12:56] <Jimmey> Student, alright - Do you know how to do a "loud" boot?
[12:56] <Student> Jimmey, No.
[12:56] <paritosh> where is jdk installed through synaptic on ubuntu?
[12:56] <Jimmey> Student, are you working from the same computer at the moment?
[12:57] <wesolek> Jimmey, I did that, I followed these steps I found on some forum... still didn't work
[12:57] <bur[n] er> paritosh: just use add/remove and look in all available sources
[12:57] <oslo> bur[n] er>i'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool ) (( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))
[12:57] <Student> Jimmey, Yea, I dual boot Linux and Windows on this machine I am currently using to communicate here.
[12:57] <ivan_> bur[n] er: know what i mean?
[12:57] <wesolek> jimmey, I even tried uninstalling fglrx and installing some radeon drivers
[12:57] <bur[n] er> ivan_: i hear you.  seems you're quite familiar :)  I'm hoping screenlets people come out with a usable dock
[12:57] <wesolek> it still didn't work
[12:58] <Jimmey> Student, did you post on Ubuntu forums?
[12:58] <ivan_> bur[n] er: yes, i agree
[12:58] <brad016> I have installed Limeire for Linux 4.12 and its been "Loading Messages..." for thirty minutes so faran dis right now, whats goin' wrong?
[12:58] <bur[n] er> wesolek: you can always go back to 'ati' for the open source drivers to work again
[12:58] <Student> Jimmey, Yea.
[12:58] <wesolek> but there is nothing to go back to
[12:58] <wesolek> it never worked
[12:58] <Bassetts_> when i reload the repos i get this for two of them: "sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[12:58] <Jimmey> Student, what's your username?
[12:58] <paritosh> bur[n] er: where is the add/remove option?
[12:59] <Jimmey> Student, Matt?
[12:59] <Student> Jimmey, Senesence
[12:59] <bur[n] er> paritosh: in teh applications menu
[12:59] <ivan_> bur[n] er: a noobish question, which computer language do we us in the terminal? to install and download stuff?
[12:59] <paritosh> ok thanks
[12:59] <bur[n] er> ivan_: it's your "shell" and ubuntu uses the "bash" shell by default
[12:59] <brad016> Limeire is taking forever to load the first time, is there something wrong?
[12:59] <ivan_> bur[n] er: ok thanks
[01:00] <wesolek> burner, when I try to use ati drivers it says: no screens found
[01:00] <bur[n] er> ivan_: for the most part though, we just run binaries like sudo, apt, dpkg, etc.  all of these can be run via many different shells
[01:00] <Student> Jimmey, You want a link to thread?
[01:00] <Jimmey> Student, so there's nothing you did that could have triggered this?
[01:00] <Jimmey> Student, yes please
[01:00] <ivan_> bur[n] er: oh so this is binarie code
[01:01] <wesolek> jimmey, what is that $(uname -r)?
[01:01] <ivan_> bur[n] er: well i mean sudo etc...
[01:01] <bur[n] er> wesolek: do you have a basic res like 800x600 in there to fall back on?
[01:01] <Student> Jimmey, No, or at least I don't think so, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[01:01] <bur[n] er> ivan_: sometimes... some are just scripts that can be opened in a text editor ;)  it varies a whole lot
[01:01] <Jimmey> wesolek, the '$' operator let's you use a command within a command - "uname -r" prints out your kernel version
[01:01] <wesolek> from when I installed ubuntu on my laptop, there was only 800x600 and I don't know what drivers it was using back then
[01:01] <paritosh> bur[n] er: no i dont want to install jdk. i already have that installed. is there some particular directory under which the packages reside?
[01:02] <XBehave> can a motherboard prevent access to the onboardGFX when a card is in?
[01:02] <wesolek> well it was 3 days ago
[01:02] <ivan_> bur[n] er: ok thanks, what language should i learn to program mostly in ubuntu?
[01:02] <paritosh> bur[n] er: in particular, i am looking for the "JAVA_HOME" equivalent on linux
[01:02] <Jimmey> Student, did you recently do any updates?
[01:02] <Student> Jimmey, Not as far as I can remember.
[01:02] <bur[n] er> paritosh: you mean downloaded .debs or installed packages?  the former is in the /var/apt/cache/blahblahblahblah and the latter's answer is all over
[01:02] <Jimmey> XBehave, why?
[01:03] <wesolek> ok I put it in, jimmey
[01:03] <bur[n] er> paritosh: env |grep JAVA  ?
[01:03] <Jimmey> Student, I want to suggest a loud boot, but that would mean restarting...Would that be okay?
[01:03] <paritosh> bur[n] er: yeah the installed packages. nono. it isnt set by default. i need to set it up, the JAVA_HOME environment variable. i need to know what to set it to.
[01:03] <Student> Jimmey, Yea, I'll be back in a few minutes.
[01:03] <wesolek> jimmey, this is the output: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic is already the newest version.
[01:03] <wesolek> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:03] <XBehave> i want to use both but cant find the onboard card while the gfx is in lspci shows differences
[01:04] <brad016> limewire takes forever to load
[01:04] <XBehave> some things apear others disapear
[01:04] <Student> Jimmey, Just how do I do a "loud boot"?
[01:04] <Jimmey> Student, when booting, edit the Ubuntu entry, and delete the "quiet" line
[01:04] <Jimmey> Student, I forgot how to edit the entries, but I'm pretty sure it's obvious
[01:05] <XBehave> Student: go to the entry then press e
[01:05] <Student> Jimmey, That sounds simple enough - it's just "e". Ok I'm off, be back in a few minutes.
[01:05] <bur[n] er> paritosh: you can search for the executable you need (sorry I don't know what is in JAVA_HOME... i dn't know java)
[01:05] <nickrud> paritosh, sudo update-alternatives --config java , and select the one you want: that should be enough
[01:05] <tck> does anyone know how well Dell's sales of pcs with ubuntu are doing?
[01:05] <nj786> what program copys dvds?
[01:05] <nj786> burns?
[01:05] <paritosh> bur[n] er: nickrud: ok thanks ill try those out
[01:06] <mariocesar_bo> Hi all !
[01:06] <mariocesar_bo> how can i convert a .mo file to .po
[01:06] <Jimmey> nj786, k3b
[01:06] <mariocesar_bo> ?
[01:06] <bur[n] er> Jimmey: nj786: gnomebaker might as well no?  it'd be gtk
[01:06] <nj786> jimmey, does it allow to burn blockbuster movies?
[01:07] <Ravenndude`> nj786, Isn't that illegal??!?
[01:07] <paritosh> erm nickrud: can you explain what that command does..? im pretty lost.
[01:07] <spheard> how do I get VMware player going?
[01:07] <Jimmey> bur[n] er, nj786, maybe gnomebaker, but I personally think K3B is better.
[01:07] <Pici> !piracy
[01:07] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[01:07] <nj786> ravenndude, well it doesnt rip to my computer
[01:07] <bur[n] er> spheard: sudo apt-get install vmware-player  then just open it from your menus
[01:07] <nj786> jimmey, o knvrmind that how do i rip a movie
[01:07] <Ravenndude`> nj786,  You should state it as "Backing up my personal DVDs" that is the legal way of saying it.
[01:08] <jrib> mariocesar_bo: you really need to?  Can't you just grab the .po?
[01:08] <nj786> ravenndude, how do u rip dvds?
[01:08] <spheard> bur[n] er cheers
[01:08] <Jimmey> nj786, try searching for "rip dvd"
[01:08] <wesolek> hm...
[01:08] <Jimmey> nj786, in Synaptic
[01:08] <Jimmey> 
[01:08] <mariocesar_bo> jrib: I translate an app to spanish on launchpad
[01:08] <bur[n] er> spheard: good luck... it's also available via Applications -> add/remove
[01:08] <smultron> I just put Feisty on my Dell laptop but the trackpad tap-clicking thing is turned on by default and it's very annoying... is there some way to disable it?
[01:09] <nickrud> paritosh, ubuntu uses a system that allows choosing which package will provide a particular functionality: for example, you can install both java5 and java6, and choose which will be called by apps using java with the command I just gave
[01:09] <Ravenndude`> nj786,  Generally, I'll use dvdshrink in Wine to make ISOs
[01:09] <jrib> mariocesar_bo: you can use msgunfmt, but really, the original .po should be available to you at the same place you got the .mo
[01:09] <wesolek> jimmey, did you see that output message I got from typing your command?
[01:09] <mariocesar_bo> and i have the translations for Deutch on .mo
[01:09] <nickrud> paritosh, look at the directory /etc/alternatives, and you'll see a bunch of others. It's essentially a symlink handling system
[01:09] <Jimmey> wesolek, err...I don't think so.?
[01:10] <wesolek> ok, hold on, let me copy it again
[01:10] <paritosh> nickrud: ok thanks. but the $JAVA_HOME is still not set..:(
[01:10] <wesolek> jimmey, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic is already the newest version.
[01:10] <wesolek> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:10] <Student> Jimmey, I get the same error.
[01:10] <nj786> jimmey, i see drip, and dvdbackup and dvdbackup-dbg
[01:10] <Jimmey> Student, did doing a loud boot produce any more error messages?
[01:11] <wesolek> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:11] <nj786> which 1 jimmey?
[01:11] <ivan_> how can i configure pidgin so it sounds when someone has talked to me?
[01:11] <Jimmey> nj786, try all three
[01:11] <wesolek> sorry, I just can't figure out how this chat works
[01:11] <Student> No, the same exact info, formats a little differend, but it's the same exact error.
[01:11] <greenmanspirit> anyone know why the lamp installation of ubuntu server didnt install php?
[01:12] <Pooky> speaking of pigdgin, finch is awesome
[01:12] <Student> Jimmey, No the same exact info, formats a little different, but it's the same exact error.
[01:12] <sparr> my desktop, ready to exhibit linux gaming goodness at a lan party this weekend...  http://sparr.homeip.net/desktop.png
[01:12] <Jimmey> Student, I mean, running up to receiving the error
[01:13] <wesolek> did you see that, jimmey?
[01:13] <Jimmey> sparr, you any good with Blender?
[01:13] <Jimmey> wesolek, yeah, soryr
[01:13] <cached> how do i start firefox from a bash script that is run by crontab
[01:13] <freeagy> which one torrent client (with guI) in 7.04      for beginners?    (azureus eating lots of ram)
[01:13] <Ravenndude`> sparr, WOW all that clutter!
[01:13] <wesolek> oh no problem at all, I just thought I messed something up
[01:13] <Student> Jimmey, No, it all just ran by as usual, except now it had "Beginning mount script" or something then error as usual and "Done" after that.
[01:13] <cached> as in, i have a script that checks for some condition. i want it to pop up firefox if that condition is met
[01:13] <cached> how do i go about that?
[01:14] <jrib> cached: you need to set the DISPLAY variable in your crontab
[01:14] <sparr> Ravenndude`: its normally empty (except for mounted media), but i need it to show off
[01:14] <Jimmey> wesolek, One moment
[01:14] <wesolek> thanks, jimmey
[01:14] <gbutler288> hello
[01:14] <cached> jrib: so like  	DISPLAY=:0.0 && ./script.sh ?
[01:14] <gbutler288> I have a question if anyone has a minute?
[01:15] <jrib> cached: no &&
[01:15] <Music_Shuffle_> !ask
[01:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:15] <Hirvinen_> !anyone | gbutler288
[01:15] <ubotu> gbutler288: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:15] <Jimmey> wesolek, how did you install the restricted driver?
[01:15] <gbutler288> o.k.
[01:15] <wesolek> jimmey, do you think there is a chance I will get this thing to work?
[01:15] <wesolek> well, jimmey, I can't really remember
[01:15] <cached> jrib so DISPLAY=:0.0 ./script.sh ?
[01:15] <bluebanana> i installed beryl settings manager and turned on restricted driver, but i still see nothing magical.
[01:15] <bluebanana> Also, I can't get "desktop effects" in system/preferences to work
[01:15] <wesolek> I know that I followed some directions I found in some forums (many of them and none has worked so far)
[01:16] <jima21742> bur[n] er My additional hard drive is set as read only and I can't seem to change permissions.
[01:16] <jrib> cached: yes, try that
[01:16] <freeagy> bluebanana thake a console
[01:16] <Jimmey> wesolek, hmm...
[01:16] <bluebanana> thake?
[01:16] <wesolek> jimmey, I am a newbie, and I don't really know what I am doing
[01:16] <freeagy> take
[01:16] <TheCreationist> bur[n] er: Still there and willing to help with my cd burner problem?
[01:17] <wesolek> I know it was working in suse
[01:17] <jima21742> wesolek Welcome to the club!!
[01:17] <gbutler288> I've installed fiery on 6 different dell pc's all less than 3 years old.  I can't get any of them to connect to the internet.  Now all of them have working NIC's.  They used to have Blimpows on them.  Any ideas.  I tried just plugging them into the cable modem.  I'm with Time Warner and I see in the forums others have had the same issue.  I thought it wa s DNS issue but not sure?
[01:17] <bluebanana> you want me to open up a terminal/console, freeagy ?
[01:17] <gbutler288> any ideas???
[01:17] <wesolek> lol jima21742
[01:17] <freeagy> my enlish is poor
[01:17] <freeagy> yes
[01:17] <bluebanana> ok.
[01:17] <spheard> "No subnet declaration for eth0 (0.0.0.0)." eh??
[01:17] <bluebanana> now what, freeagy
[01:17] <Jimmey> wesolek, do you need 3D acceleration
[01:17] <freeagy> type beryl-manager
[01:17] <wesolek> that would be nice
[01:17] <bluebanana> freeagy, it's not currently installed
[01:17] <wesolek> as I want these nice effects (wobbly windows etc)
[01:17] <Jimmey> wesolek:
[01:18] <Jimmey> !ati
[01:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <bluebanana> freeagy, i'll install it now, eh?
[01:18] <jima21742> Anyone help me changing the permission on a hard drive?  it's set as read only and I can't change anything
[01:18] <freeagy> wait 1 min
[01:18] <sgarza> hello
[01:18] <gbutler288> right nothing for the IP info.  ifconfig gives me nuthin
[01:18] <bluebanana> freeagy, ok. I've installed it now
[01:18] <johso> hi guys. my server is running low on disck space (actually, there is 0% left). I think there might be a leak somewhere, that keeps on filling out the disk space. how can I check this?
[01:18] <Jimmey> wesolek, try setting the driver to vesa while you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI this guide
[01:18] <sgarza> does feisty livecd works on a machine witha an ATI x1600 VC?
[01:19] <cached> jrib: I don't think the script ran at all
[01:19] <wesolek> I am on vesa now
[01:19] <freeagy> bluebanana?
[01:19] <jrib> cached: try "gedit" instead of your script
[01:19] <jima21742> Anyone help me changing the permission on a hard drive?  it's set as read only and I can't change anything
[01:19] <bluebanana> freeagy, please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26502/
[01:19] <gbutler288> the live CD doesn't even allow access to the net?
[01:19] <gbutler288>  I've installed fiery on 6 different dell pc's all less than 3 years old.  I can't get any of them to connect to the internet.  Now all of them have working NIC's.  They used to have Blimpows on them.  Any ideas.  I tried just plugging them into the cable modem.  I'm with Time Warner and I see in the forums others have had the same issue.  I thought it wa s DNS issue but not sure?
[01:19] <bluebanana> i get some messages
[01:20] <gbutler288> chmod 777
[01:20] <cached> jrib: guess it did run then. thanks :)
[01:20] <wesolek> jimmey, I did that yesterday... and it didn't work, so as suggested, I followed the instructions for edgy, and the same result, always had to reconfigure xserver back to vesa to get it back
[01:20] <bluebanana> it says i need a composite extension
[01:20] <bluebanana> freeagy, see above.
[01:21] <riddick> i have a ubuntu box that i would like to export the display of an application to on my mbp.  i checked the ssh config file and it was set to enable x11 forwarding.  is someone good with this that can help me get it working?
[01:21] <wesolek> Jimmey, I really tried pretty much everything I could find on the net about it.. and I am really desperate at this moment
[01:22] <Jimmey> wesolek, erm..
[01:22] <cached> Is it possible to do a system beep from bash?
[01:22] <nickrud> gbutler288, can you ping a numeric inet address?
[01:22] <freeagy> bluebanana im very beginner
[01:22] <freeagy> type glsinfo
[01:22] <wesolek> what is that red horizontal line that shows up every now and again in here?
[01:22] <jima21742> Anyone help me changing the permission on a hard drive?  it's set as read only and I can't change anything
[01:23] <freeagy> sorry glxinfo
[01:23] <wesolek> jima, I have no idea how to help you
[01:23] <Student> wesolek, Heh, it could be worse - Like not being able to boot at all...
[01:23] <nickrud> wesolek, if you're using xchat, its when exchat lost it's focus. Lets you know where you left off
[01:23] <freeagy> do you have direct rendering:yes ??
[01:23] <wesolek> thanks nickrud
[01:23] <wesolek> student hehehe :)
[01:24] <genii> cached echo -e "\a"
[01:24] <Pici> cached: or install the beep package
[01:24] <padee> hi all. i created a launcher with 'wget -c www.adress.domain . does anyone know what to add to the command to leave the command line open?
[01:24] <freeagy> ohhh
[01:24] <cached> genii: it's not working
[01:25] <wesolek> oh no! Jimmey is gone!!!
[01:25] <wesolek> <--------bang
[01:25] <genii> cached there is another way but I need to look it up
[01:26] <Student> wesolek, Ha, ha. Same fear here.
[01:26] <nickrud> padee, you could try gnome-terminal -x wget  etc
[01:26] <ki4cgp> Hi, this might be the wrong channel, but I'm curious if anyone knows of software I can use that will move my data to the end of the drive so I can create a partition at the beginning?  I have ubuntu livecd loaded up, and gparted seems to not be able to.
[01:26] <genii> cached actually try first echo -e '\a'   with the single quotes
[01:26] <wesolek> oh.. while I am here... does anybody know what to launch to get connected to a Remote Desktop (on windows)?
[01:26] <kravlin> Anyone know how to edit grub to let me get into windows? I tried Update_grub to no avail.
[01:26] <cached> genii: same thing
[01:26] <wesolek> sorry, student, I didn't catch what your problem was with ubuntu
[01:27] <wesolek> not that I will be able to help
[01:27] <genii> cached OK, gonna go look up the other way brb
[01:27] <wesolek> and student, how do you do that, when you type to me it's in red?
[01:27] <kravlin> wesolek: When your name is mentioned in a post x-chat marks it as red.
[01:28] <silvertip257> I've compiled busybox and want to add openssh to it for a ntwk tool, but I cant get it to make when I'm chrooted
[01:28] <cached> wesolek: it's by default
[01:28] <kdiggdy> I need help if anyone can look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479816
[01:28] <wesolek> wow. cool
[01:28] <wesolek> is it case sensitive?
[01:28] <padee> nickrud: its still closing after executing the command....
[01:28] <kravlin> WESOLEK: You tell me....
[01:28] <wesolek> lol
[01:28] <wesolek> brilliant
[01:28] <Student> wesolek, Yea, sticks out from the crowd.
[01:28] <wesolek> thanks guys :)
[01:29] <kravlin> Anyone know how to edit grub to let me get into windows? I tried Update_grub to no avail.
[01:29] <wesolek> I just thought you had to type some sort of command like /msg or something
[01:29] <kravlin> thats for private messages.
[01:29] <cached> that would be to private message / whisper
[01:29] <nickrud> kravlin, you can check to see if http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26506  or something close to it is at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst . That will boot any windows that's on the first partition of the first drive
[01:29] <padee> more questions... has anyone experience with setting up an ubuntu internetcafe? any suggestions? how to control the client computers and stuff?
[01:30] <wesolek> kravlin, on suse it was very easy... ubuntu is for more advanced users I think
[01:30] <jhgnz> Hi, I'm about to install ubuntu server edition on a hard drive wih Windows XP already installed on another HD on the same computer. How can I enable a dual boot?
[01:30] <kdiggdy> anyone know a lot about ati drivers in linux
[01:30] <Frogzoo> padee: chillispot
[01:30] <SexXxMachine> yes
[01:30] <persica> kravlin: The biggest trick is getting the harddrive/partition number correct.
[01:30] <SexXxMachine> you're completely fucked
[01:30] <SexXxMachine> kdiggdy
[01:30] <PriceChild> !ohmy | SexXxMachine
[01:30] <ubotu> SexXxMachine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:30] <kdiggdy> yeah
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> well
[01:31] <wesolek> kdiggdy, I am having the same problem
[01:31] <persica> jhgnz: it should auto-detect when you install grub.  You just have to be sure you don't write over it when you install. :)
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> there's probably a way
[01:31] <wesolek> well similar at least
[01:31] <kravlin> Persica: well the windows bootloader is still on the MBR. I just redid grub on the Hard drive instead.
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> but i've yet to get 3d support
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> working with my card
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> well it was something
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> game related
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> the gears in cedega werent running at the right speed
[01:31] <Student> SexXxMachine, How about putting more text on one line?
[01:31] <jhgnz> persica, so when I go to install ubuntu, it will auto-detect that i have another OS installed and it will give me a dual boot option?
[01:31] <SexXxMachine> !ohmy | PriceChild
[01:31] <ubotu> PriceChild: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:32] <cached> question: how can a linux assistance channel be geared towards families?
[01:32] <Student> SexXxMachine, JK
[01:32] <SexXxMachine> student, yes i realize it's a bad ahbit
[01:32] <kdiggdy> so what do i do?
[01:32] <persica> jhgnz: yeah, it should auto-detect it during the install, otherwise you can add a Windows option easily after you boot into Ubuntu
[01:32] <Student> SexXxMachine, Just joking, I dont' really care.
[01:32] <gonzaloaf_work> how can I play aac files with xmms?
[01:32] <SexXxMachine> kdiggdy, read some guides?
[01:32] <kdiggdy> ohh ho ho
[01:32] <kdiggdy> i did
[01:33] <kdiggdy> i read and read
[01:33] <jhgnz> ok, and does anyone know what the main difference is between the Server edition and the Desktop edition is?
[01:33] <wesolek> lol
[01:33] <kdiggdy> \kill
[01:33] <persica> kravlin: You'll have to install a linux aware bootloader on the MBR, such as grub/lilo to get it to dual-boot.
[01:33] <cached> server -> no gui
[01:33] <persica> jhgnz: server edition installs no frills, desktop tries to make it usable from the start.
[01:33] <sebastian_> i forget the cahnnel in spanish ? some help
[01:33] <jhgnz> ok, thank u
[01:33] <johso> I am deleting a lot of stuff, but it doesn't free up disk space at all. What is wrong? (I'm using the rm command from a shell)
[01:33] <wesolek> kdiggdy, what kind of graphic card do you have?
[01:33] <cached> Pricechild: well that was random :)
[01:33] <kravlin> persica: that's wierd. Most guides on the internet tell me to keep the bootloader for linux on the MBR and install the linux one on the hard drive.
[01:33] <persica> by frills I mean anything graphical or superfluous things like nfs. :)
[01:34] <kdiggdy> x700
[01:34] <MarcN> johso: what are you removing?  df doesn't change?
[01:34] <padee> Frogzoo: nice.thanks.how does it work? i checked the site... and i'm still not quite sure what it does....
[01:34] <wesolek> radeon?
[01:34] <kdiggdy> yea
[01:35] <persica> kravlin: I'd suggest making your MBR be grub/lilo so it can then go either way from there.  If windows is still in the MBR it won't give you any options and just to to linux.
[01:35] <wesolek> I've got a different radeon and it's not working either
[01:35] <persica> er, just go to windows.
[01:35] <genii> cached echo "\07"           Should do it. Otherwise I think you may have initrc setting disabling system bell if you know it works otherwise
[01:36] <kravlin> ok... That just adds something else on my list of things to do Persica.
[01:36] <kravlin> Im actually running Ubuntu right now.
[01:36] <sebastian_> some body know the chanel in soanish ?
[01:36] <kravlin> meaning it must have overwritten my MBR anyway.
[01:36] <sebastian_> spanish
[01:36] <Agrajag_> !es
[01:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:36] <sebastian_> thx
[01:36] <wesolek> ok, does anybody know where else I can seek for help with my graphics card issue, please let me know :)
[01:36] <MarcN> Anyone using Xen? I'm wondering if I'll still be able to use restricted kernel modules with the xen kernel (specifically fglrx)
[01:37] <padee> Frogzoo: nevermind. i'm installing it right now... i'll test it...
[01:37] <persica> kravlin: check your /boot/grub/menu.list and check if there's a Windows option at the bottom.  If so you are probably set to dual-boot already.
[01:37] <johso> MarcN: I had some random stuff lying around, not too much in size, textfiles/webfiles, etc. there was 26kb available for a few moents, then 0% again
[01:37] <cached> genii: didn't work. i'll just install the program
[01:37] <kravlin> Persica: its not there. I installed windows after linux and then replaced grub using the live cd.
[01:37] <Orgullomoore> Hi. I tried to upgrade from dapper to feisty and something obviously went wrong. Now, there are several problems. Among them, certain programs are filled with squares rather than letters
[01:38] <johso> MarcN: it's like the stuff is not removed - you just can't list it anymore. which is weird, considering that I used rm
[01:38] <jrib> Orgullomoore: you didn't upgrade to edgy first?
[01:38] <MarcN> johso: is your /home on the / partition?  Could be something filling up /var/log or somewhere else
[01:38] <Orgullomoore> jrib: no
[01:38] <jrib> Orgullomoore: for future reference, you are not supposed to skip releases
[01:38] <persica> kravlin: Ah.  So if you reinstalled grub onto the MBR so you could boot into ubuntu, then you'll want to add something to the end of your grub list to boot your windows partition.  Refer to the snippet posted when you first asked.
[01:38] <johso> MarcN: yes, it is. I backed up /var/log and deleted it - no luck
[01:38] <jrib> Orgullomoore: how did you upgrade?
[01:38] <kravlin> Orgullomoore : Its sounds like those squares mean you no longer have those fonts.
[01:39] <kravlin> persica: Ok. Ill try that out.
[01:39] <johso> MarcN: do you know some kind of way to force a purge of the harddisk?
[01:39] <wesolek> Jimmey!!! come back!!!
[01:39] <Orgullomoore> for instance when I try to save a page in firefox, it gives me something like an alert() box from javascript, but instead of it being filled with a legible prompt, the letters are just identical squares...
[01:39] <MarcN> johso: sync will flush cache to disk, but I'm sure that isn't it (unless you are on some usb disk)
[01:39] <Orgullomoore> kravlin: indeed, I think there is a problem with the xfonts-scalable package
[01:39] <Orgullomoore> that's what it says everytime I do something apt-get related
[01:39] <Student> Jimmey!!! - to echo wesolek.
[01:39] <darrell> Can anyone tell me how to place a Favorites folder on the panel?
[01:40] <Orgullomoore> jrib: I changed my sources.list file and did apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <wesolek> lol student
[01:40] <Orgullomoore> :)
[01:40] <kravlin> persica: what does the makeactive command do? I got rid of make default because the windows partition isn't what i really want to use all the time.
[01:40] <jrib> Orgullomoore: k, using update-manager is recommended.  Can you pastebin the error you get when you do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[01:40] <johso> MarcN: okay. I am thoroughly lost on this one. Worse is, it happened to me a few days ago on my desktop computer - but it solved itself, weirdly enough. This doesn't seem to fix itself though :/
[01:40] <kdiggdy> so anyone know how to install ati gfx cards?
[01:40] <wesolek> I think he may actually be gone for good, student
[01:40] <kdiggdy> drivers
[01:40] <mdr>  I've replaced my single CRT monitor with a used LCD, hence no manual.  I know the max resolution and refresh rate and size on the LCD.  I have no idea what the HorizSnyc and VertRefresh values might be.  Do I need these values to reconfigure?  How do I reconfigure?
[01:40] <johso> marshall: btw, /proc is taking up the most disk space. is this usual?
[01:41] <wesolek> can you see the full list of chatters here?
[01:41] <Orgullomoore> jrib: sure, just a sec
[01:41] <MarcN> johso: nothing in /var/log?  Check /tmp too.
[01:41] <Student> wesolek, I hope not. I'v been trying to get Linux back up for almost 2 days straight now.
[01:41] <GhostFreeman> Where would kernel config be located at?
[01:41] <wesolek> 3 here :)
[01:41] <johso> marshall: sorry, wrong nick
[01:41] <wesolek> well, 4 really, student
[01:41] <persica> kravlin: I believe the combination of makeactive and chalinloader basically say to make the windows partition the active boot partition and then pass off boot loading to that parition
[01:41] <nickrud> darrell, never tried that before. I just dragged a folder out of the filemanager onto the panel
[01:41] <padee> Frogzoo: hm, the installation didnt work properly. the conf file is missing...
[01:41] <johso> MarcN: empty and empty - btw, /proc is taking up the most disk space. is this usual?
[01:41] <MarcN> mdr: google the lcd model and there is a good chance you will find it.
[01:42] <kravlin> persica: ok. Ill leave that one in.
[01:42] <MarcN> johso: /proc is just a virtual file system.  Nothing really there.
[01:42] <persica> kravlin: So basically windows has it's boot information on that parition, and you're telling grub to hand off the loading to that parition, instead of calling a kernel like it does for linux.
[01:42] <Student> wesolek, Yea, I even had the chance to cry a few times - Actually cry.
[01:42] <Orgullomoore> jrib: it
[01:42] <Orgullomoore> it's doing something...34%
[01:42] <wesolek> oh boy... it wasn't that bad here
[01:42] <MarcN> johso: where do you remove files from?  Did you remove something you shouldn't have?
[01:42] <persica> kravlin: Do you know what partition windows is installed on?
[01:43] <kravlin> persica: Trying to remember the command to find out....
[01:43] <wesolek> everything seems to be working great, other than graphics and movies of course, student
[01:43] <johso> MarcN: I removed whatever was in my home folder, then /var/log and as a last resort /tmp
[01:43] <mdr> MarcN tried that got a million shopping links They give specs I listed above. Nothing on vertical refreshes.
[01:43] <darrell> nickrud, Thanks I want a quick way to access my bookmarks instead of opening Firefox
[01:43] <wesolek> student, I haven't check my wireless yet
[01:43] <jrib> Orgullomoore: read very carefully what it asks you, if it wants to do something stupid like remove half of your system, don't let it :)
[01:43] <danij3l> http://xrl.us/2gcs look at hove linus is using windows :D  very funnnnnnnnny
[01:43] <Orgullomoore> jrib: okiedoke
[01:43] <kdiggdy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479816
[01:43] <persica> kravlin: You could try an 'sudo fdisk -l' and look for an HPFS/NTFS partition.
[01:43] <bronze-> Anyone know of a lightweight virus scanner? Need it to scan files that I provide WINDOWS users.
[01:43] <kravlin> Persica Hdb1
[01:43] <Student> wesolek, Yea - now compare that to not even being able to boot - and for no apparent reason - and then imagine me crying - you get the picture.
[01:44] <Orgullomoore> jrib:
[01:44] <Orgullomoore> 2 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:44] <Orgullomoore> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[01:44] <wesolek> lol I do
[01:44] <persica> kravlin: then the root should be (hd1,0)
[01:44] <Orgullomoore> that can't be too bad...
[01:44] <kravlin> persica: yep.
[01:44] <kravlin> thanks
[01:44] <GhostFreeman> Where are the kernel config options?
[01:44] <MarcN> johso how big is your / partition?  is /home or others separate?
[01:44] <wesolek> student, I'd just reinstall it lol
[01:44] <Luziphir> I've got a minor issue I'm wondering if anyone can help me with: when I insert a video DVD, it's mounted, but it doesn't show up on the desktop or in nautilus. Data CDs work fine though, anyway to change this behavior?
[01:44] <jrib> Orgullomoore: is there more, does it say what isn't fully installed?  use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[01:44] <MarcN> mdr: I know there is some monitor specs site out there.  No idea what it is though...
[01:45] <nickrud> GhostFreeman, in /boot/config*
[01:45] <wesolek> then apologise to windows... lol student
[01:45] <kravlin> persica: we will know in about 4 minutes if it worked. See you then.
[01:45] <bronze-> Anyone know of a good virus scanner for ubuntu, that detects WINDOWS viruses?
[01:45] <Student> wesolek, Well, you see, I can actually boot from live cd and then mount the partition that I have been using, so it has to be something that I can do without just trashing all my settings. I really don't want to go back to windows - I made a promise.
[01:45] <persica> kravlin: there might be an issue with the harddrive mappings.
[01:45] <GhostFreeman> thanks, nickrud
[01:45] <persica> well, i guess that was too late.
[01:45] <Cras1> hello
[01:45] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26508/
[01:46] <johso> MarcN: they're not, and it's about 1.5Gb - which used to be plenty, since it's a server. and there really isn't anything that would take up the space
[01:46] <wesolek> poor student
[01:46] <Student> wesolek, I'm crying right now.
[01:46] <Cras1> when i try to copy a avi i burn't along time ago on windows i get the this I/O read error from /media/cdrom0/blah.avi
[01:46] <wesolek> installation didn't take my that long, student, maybe it's worth doing it?
[01:46] <Student> Lol
[01:46] <wesolek> lol
[01:46] <mdr> MarcN I'm sure i can find it if I try hard enough, filter out "shopping"  but anyway how do I go about reconfiguring for ubuntu
[01:46] <jrib> Orgullomoore: why is it still fetching stuff from dapper?  Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:47] <Cras1> I done some research on the net and found it might be a possible kernel error but they didn't mention a fix any ideas ?
[01:47] <wesolek> did jimmey say he was coming back here?
[01:47] <MarcN> johso: apt-cache clean maybe to remove old .debs?  Check /var/cache and /var/www
[01:47] <Orgullomoore> jrib: because I wanted to go back to dapper, hoping it would fix what feisty messed up...but it didn't
[01:47] <ottomatic> How do I create a fat32 partition on a usb hard drive?
[01:47] <darrell> where is the bookmarks folder?  What is the default pate?
[01:47] <MarcN> mdr: there are HorizSync and Virtsomthing options. Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add them.
[01:48] <Orgullomoore> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26509/
[01:48] <Student> wesolek, It's not that grub can't find the partition, it's not filesystem corruption, it's not messed up menu.lst - It's just that ubuntu get's stuck at "Mounting filessytem" - I AM GOING INSANE
[01:48] <MarcN> ottomatic: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1  (or whatever)
[01:48] <jrib> Orgullomoore: ok, well now it's better to finish going to feisty.  I remember this bug with xfonts-scalable, there should be a bug report with a quick fix.  Though, I thought it was fixed...
[01:48] <ufoeraser> guys
[01:48] <ufoeraser> someone use amsn?
[01:48] <Cras1> anyone know why i would get an I/O read error when trying to copy an avi from a cd to my desktop?
[01:48] <wesolek> have you checked your cd for errors?
[01:48] <persica> kravlin: did it fail?  I forgot you might need to do some harddrive re-mapping with two drives.
[01:48] <wesolek> student
[01:48] <ottomatic> MarcN: I'm guessing have to use fdisk first to create the partition?
[01:48] <Netham45|> anyone know how I can get an OpenGL driver other than MESA?
[01:49] <johso> MarcN: apt-get clean? tried that too. /var/cache and www are 41mb and 47mb - sounds reasonable. this is seriously bugging me out.
[01:49] <MarcN> ottomatic: yeah.
[01:49] <ufoeraser> ?
[01:49] <kravlin> persica: Yeah. No go.
[01:49] <jrib> Orgullomoore: when you did the apt-get upgrade before a bunch of packages actually got upgraded right?
[01:49] <Orgullomoore> jrib: hmm...now I think I'm somewhere in the middle of feisty and dapper, because I did a apt-get upgrade...but if I get this xfonts thingy fixed I think I'll just leave it alone and never touch it again
[01:49] <persica> kravlin: you have each OS on a different HD?
[01:49] <kravlin> Persica: It didn't even show up.
[01:49] <mruedy> Server question: after 1st install of server 7.04 I see gnome is not installed.  Is it possible to install gnome?
[01:49] <Student> wesolek, It's not the CD - I installed ubuntu more than 6 months ago, it's been working fine, so that live cd is fine.
[01:49] <nickrud> darrell, firefox keeps it's bookmarks in a file, look at ~/.mozilla/firefox/<wierdnumber>/bookmarks.html
[01:49] <jrib> Orgullomoore: nah, it's an easy fix
[01:49] <Orgullomoore> jrib: yes, and then they got downgraded again
[01:49] <wesolek> oh I se
[01:49] <wesolek> e
[01:49] <bobsomebody> im having trouble saving files to a samba share in BlueFish
[01:49] <jrib> Orgullomoore: downgraded?  are you sure?
[01:49] <kravlin> persica: Yeah. I put windows on an IDE hard drive while linux is on a SATA drive. Its a funky set up.
[01:49] <wesolek> sorry, student. just thinking of problems I had to go through
[01:50] <Orgullomoore> jrib: pretty sure, is there a way to check
[01:50] <Orgullomoore> ?
[01:50] <darrell> Ok, Thanks
[01:50] <wesolek> radeon not working??? anybody?
[01:50] <jrib> Orgullomoore: apt-cache policy libc6     what version do you have?
[01:50] <MarcN> mdr: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in    Section "Monitor"   you can add two lines: HorizSync xx-yy   and VertRefresh xx-yy where XX and YY are specific to your monitor.  Then reboot (or restart gdm)
[01:50] <Netham45|> the bunny died.
[01:50] <Netham45|> I ate his brain
[01:50] <kravlin> Persica: But i didn't want to try repartitioning my Ubuntu disk while using it,
[01:50] <persica> kravlin: odd that it's hdb1 then... where's your hda?  CDROM?
[01:50] <Netham45|> it tasted good
[01:50] <nconlon> eh?
[01:50] <Orgullomoore> jrib:   Installed: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4
[01:50] <persica> Hehe, that's not wise, but you can do it from the liveCD.
[01:50] <Netham45|> full of protien
[01:51] <persica> kravlin:
[01:51] <kravlin> yes?
[01:51] <nconlon> Netham45|you've confused me
[01:51] <Student> *grrr
[01:51] <tolle> Anyone here good at tc and iptables or some other stuff to limit network bandwidth? I want to either limit the speed for all but one port. or just limit the speed for a certain range.
[01:51] <nickrud> wesolek, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ? (that will reset to the free ati)
[01:51] <Netham45|> nconlon: yay
[01:51] <jrib> Orgullomoore: hmm, downgrades usually don't work out so well.  If I were you, I would try to upgrade to edgy and then to feisty
[01:51] <Netham45|> !ohmy | netham45|
[01:51] <jrib> Orgullomoore: but yes, that isn't feisty's version
[01:51] <kravlin> Persica: its currently configured as a slave drive. I could set it as a master.
[01:51] <MarcN> johso: I have a feisty-server running in a xen dom taking up less than 400M
[01:51] <wesolek> nickrud, I can't remember if I did, I can try it :), thanks
[01:51] <Cras1> anyone know why i would get an I/O read error when trying to copy an avi from a cd to my desktop?
[01:52] <persica> kravlin: So what error did you get?  No OS present, or a windows error?
[01:52] <marltu> hello. What default founts i should install and how to make websites look nice
[01:52] <MarcN> johso: 1.5G for / should be plenty
[01:52] <nconlon> Cras1 is the disk scratched? that will sometimes do it
[01:52] <kravlin> It booted fine. The option just didn't exist
[01:52] <Netham45|> !fglrx
[01:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:52] <marltu> i mean there are web fonts missing in ubuntu
[01:52] <Orgullomoore> jrib: ok, but that won't fix my font problem, will it?
[01:52] <Cras1> no
[01:52] <kravlin> which is wierd because i left vi with a :wq
[01:52] <Cras1> i do it in windows fine
[01:52] <mdr> MarcN thanks, I can handle that.  I have the stuff listed for the old CRT monitor already.  One listing is Option "DPMS",  do I need to change this?
[01:52] <nickrud> marltu, apt-get install msttcorefonts , that gets arial, verdana, etc
[01:52] <wesolek> oh I was doing that every time my trial failed... and ati will not work, the only driver that works is vesa, nickrud
[01:52] <jrib> Orgullomoore: well once xfonts-scalable installs, it should go away
[01:53] <marltu> nickrud, ty
[01:53] <Nubbie> marltu: install the windows fonts package.
[01:53] <persica> kravlin: Oh, hrm... and you have title, root, makeactive, and chainloader lines?
[01:53] <marltu> Nubbie, how do i find its name?
[01:53] <Orgullomoore> jrib: ok, so how do you recommend I do this (I'm assuming not the way I did it last time)
[01:53] <kravlin> yeah
[01:53] <nconlon> Cras1 ah ok im an A+ tech just going for the obius
[01:53] <ottomatic> MarcN: Thanks. It worked.
[01:53] <wesolek> nickrud, can I turn it off somehow without going through all these steps again?
[01:53] <Student> :(
[01:54] <Nubbie> marltu: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:54] <Netham45|> !mesa
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <nickrud> wesolek, that is very wierd, that ati doesn't work. Could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (after the dpkg-reconfigure run) and the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log after a failed X startup?
[01:54] <nconlon> keep in mind i cant spell
[01:54] <mruedy> Server question: after 1st install of server 7.04 I see gnome is not installed.  Is it possible to install gnome?
[01:54] <Student> !mount
[01:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:54] <jrib> !upgrade > Orgullomoore (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:54] <wesolek> post it where, nickrud?
[01:54] <kravlin> Persica: yes. But there was a double pound sign right before It started. i know one comments the line does two do something of the same sort for several?
[01:54] <dreemr> hi
[01:54] <jrib> Orgullomoore: if that starts complaining, ping me and we'll work through the dist-upgrade using apt-get
[01:54] <nickrud> wesolek, you'll need to make a copy of the Xorg file before you restart X, it'll get written over. paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:54] <Student> !/bin/sh:
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin/sh: - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Netham45|> everyone press alt+print screen+b or I will kill the bunny!
[01:55] <Orgullomoore> ok, jrib, thanks
[01:55] <persica> kravlin: nah, one # just makes the rest of the line a comment, nothing afterwards.
[01:55] <nconlon> Netham45| kill the bunny
[01:55] <Nubbie> kravlin: comments should be made with #
[01:55] <persica> kravlin: what's the line before it?  a root or boot line?
[01:55] <Netham45> ok
[01:55] <johso> MarcN: yeah, it really should. but as I said, it really does seem like some invisible force is taking up the space :/
[01:55] <dreemr> ok I put this partition  with umask=000 in fstab and now tells me no user permission in the directory Multimedia
[01:55] <marltu> Nubbie, ty, works fine
[01:55] <jrib> Netham45: #ubuntu-offtopic, remember?
[01:55] <spheard> how do I know if Im running 64 bit ubuntu? is is the SMP in uname?
[01:55] <Student> I have a real challenge here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[01:55] <Nubbie> marltu: enjoy ;)
[01:55] <mruedy> Server question: after 1st install of server 7.04 I see gnome is not installed.  Is it possible to install gnome?
[01:55] <nconlon> thanks
[01:56] <nickrud> mruedy, install ubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <Warbo> spheard: SMP means you can use more than one processor at once
[01:56] <Nubbie> mruedy: what he said
[01:56] <wesolek> so you want me to choose the ati drivers now, let it fail and copy those files for you, right?
[01:56] <dreemr> I put a Multimedia directory in /media/Multimedia and mounted a partition there because I want my music there
[01:56] <kravlin> Persica: the line before the section i added is a kernel line. Its for the Memtest option
[01:56] <MarcN> johso:  check for .Trash-* directories if you used nautilus to remove files.
[01:56] <wesolek> nickrud
[01:56] <nconlon> mruedy apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i think dose it
[01:56] <Netham45> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:56] <mdr> MarcN also on Section "Screen"  I don't think all modes are listed.  1152x864 is avail on windows but not here at any depth.
[01:56] <johso> MarcN: I only have the command line :)
[01:56] <Warbo> spheard: I'm not sure how to tell if you are running 64bit in Feisty (since the kernel is now "generic")
[01:57] <MarcN> mdr: xorg.conf is always a PITA.  I try to stay away from it.
[01:57] <mruedy> nickrud: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop says 'Can't find package'
[01:57] <nconlon> aswerign
[01:57] <nconlon> answering tucking fypos
[01:57] <Nubbie> mdr: xorg is always easy to fix though :)
[01:57] <persica> kravlin: I think all lines have to have a root or boot option before the next title line.  I'll have to check to be sure of it.
[01:57] <Netham45> mruedy: try an apt-get updae
[01:57] <Netham45> update*
[01:57] <spheard> #generic
[01:57] <Cras1> Error "I/O error" while copying "/media/cdro...ip.divx.avi".
[01:57] <nickrud> mruedy, what Netham45 said
[01:57] <wesolek> ok I'll try to come back here soon :) nickrud, student thanks
[01:58] <Cras1> anyone know why i can't copy the avi from disk to desktop?
[01:58] <Student> wesolek, Later.
[01:58] <nickrud> wesolek, I'll be around for a while
[01:58] <wesolek> :)
[01:58] <dreemr> what permission shoudl I give a directory in /media in order to be use as USEr
[01:58] <dreemr> please
[01:58] <dreemr> someone
[01:58] <nconlon> Cras1 try coping to the home folder
[01:58] <iqos> Can someone version me and tell me the response?
[01:58] <kravlin> Persica: the line before it is this.   Kernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin
[01:58] <iqos> If you will
[01:58] <Warbo> dreemr: What filesystem is it?
[01:58] <dreemr> Warbo: XFS
[01:58] <mdr> hehe
[01:58] <dreemr> I have it in fstab with umask=000
[01:58] <MED> hello
[01:58] <dreemr> Warbo: someone told me to use that
[01:59] <Warbo> dreemr: Hmm... Then it should retain permissions for the files
[01:59] <iqos> nconlon, what did it say?
[01:59] <dreemr> Warbo: but now it tells me I do'nt have permission to use that directory
[01:59] <nconlon> iqos im not geting anything back
[01:59] <Warbo> dreemr: Check what user "owns" that directory
[01:59] <MED> i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory)
[01:59] <iqos> k
[01:59] <iqos> Thanks for your helpy
[01:59] <dreemr> Warbo: how do  I do that
[02:00] <nconlon> np
[02:00] <lunitus> greetings all, I can output my desktop with my ati card and it works great except when I play a video out to the tv, vlc shows up and the sound works but where the video should be displaying it's only a blueish box.
[02:00] <Orgullomoore> jrib: hmm...I can't use the update-manager because it's one of the programs that has squares instead of letters
[02:00] <Warbo> dreemr: right click the folder and go on properties, and then the permission tab
[02:00] <persica> kravlin: I'm going to look up some man-pages quick.
[02:00] <Warbo> dreemr: you are in a GUI?
[02:00] <jrib> Orgullomoore: heh, ok lets get xfonts-scalable installed then, join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:00] <kravlin> Persica: Take your time.
[02:00] <dreemr> Warbo: lol both ROOOT
[02:00] <Cras1> Error "I/O error" while copying "/media/cdrom0". Anyone know why i get this error?
[02:01] <dreemr> User and Group are set as root
[02:01] <Netham45> can you switch from a 32-bit kernel to a 64-bit kernel w/o reinstalling the os?
[02:01] <kravlin> woot! Go chmod!
[02:01] <bigputo> What can I use to burn audio CDs from .mp3 files ?
[02:01] <Warbo> dreemr: OK, you can change it to your user by running "sudo chown -R <your username> /media/<whatever the directory is>"
[02:02] <dreemr> Warbo: that's it?
[02:02] <bigputo> I'm using k3b but everytime I drag an mp3 into the burn queue it keeps saying "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format" but they all play fine and are regular mp3's.. anyone ??
[02:02] <MED> i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory), anything to fix this?
[02:02] <Warbo> dreemr: That should go through the directory and the directories in it, etc. etc. changing the owner to you
[02:02] <persica> kravlin: Have you tried running 'sudo update-grub'?
[02:02] <Cal__> hi there, someone can give a little help in ubuntu?
[02:02] <mruedy> Netham45: apt-get update ubuntu-desktop says 0 upgraded 0 ...
[02:02] <kravlin> bigputo: You don't have the codecs installed probably.
[02:02] <kravlin> not recently.
[02:02] <mruedy> Netham45: apt-get update ubuntu-desktop says 0 upgraded 0 ...
[02:02] <Warbo> Cal__: Go ahead, ask :)
[02:02] <nickrud> bigputo, serpentine works nicely, but k3b is better if you are willing to get a lot of extra libs
[02:02] <Netham45> mruedy: not sure.
[02:03] <bigputo> kravlin: well that's strange because everything plays perfectly in every app (vlc, amarok, xine, etc.)
[02:03] <mruedy> nickrud: apt-get update ubuntu-desktop says 0 upgraded 0 ...
[02:03] <bigputo> what would I need to do ?
[02:03] <Student> *Grabs bunny - Someone help me, or I'll have to make a sandwich.
[02:04] <kravlin> Because Ubuntu is free we don't have the access to copywritten codecs upon startup.
[02:04] <dreemr> Warbo: thanks that worked
[02:04] <bigputo> nickrud: ahh thanks, i'm using Serpentine right now.. not as good interface but it's working
[02:04] <Warbo> dreemr: No problem :)
[02:04] <nickrud> bigputo, try installing libk3b2-mp3 for k3b
[02:04] <Student> Netham45, Noooooooo
[02:04] <nconlon> student whats the problem
[02:05] <Student> nconlon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[02:05] <Warbo> Netham45: *bites
[02:05] <kravlin> persica: Im gonna try again.
[02:05] <bigputo> nickrud: perfect, k3b works now!
[02:05] <bigputo> thanks :)
[02:05] <nickrud> mruedy, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  <-- try that
[02:05] <persica> kravlin: k.
[02:05] <mruedy> nickrud: I am already in a sudo bash shell
[02:05] <Netham45> can you switch from a 32-bit kernel to a 64-bit kernel w/o reinstalling the os?
[02:05] <persica> kravlin: you can also enter the grub command-line interface to test.
[02:05] <zxguitar> hello there
[02:05] <Warbo> Netham45: Nope
[02:05] <Netham45> ok
[02:06] <nickrud> mruedy, cool, that tells me I get to leave out some intermediate instructions ;)
[02:06] <Warbo> Netham45: Not in any kind of quick, sane way that anybody has bothered working out
[02:06] <zxguitar> i have feisty, i cant watch trailers
[02:06] <zxguitar> i have the quicktime plugin installed
[02:06] <Netham45> Warbo: lol
[02:06] <zxguitar> who can help
[02:06] <Nu11u5> greetings all
[02:06] <mruedy> nickrud: what find contains the apt-get sites
[02:06] <lunitus> greetings all, I can output my desktop with my ati card and it works great except when I play a video out to the tv, vlc shows up and the sound works but where the video should be displaying it's only a blueish box.
[02:07] <nickrud> mruedy, that's the next step: /etc/apt/sources.list defines where apt looks for packages. if you can post that on a pastebin ...
[02:07] <mok0> !pastebin
[02:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:07] <marltu> is there any winamp-like mp3 player?
[02:08] <nickrud> marltu, beep-media-player or xmms
[02:08] <Warbo> marltu: Check out XMMS, BMP )bep media player) and maybe BMPx
[02:08] <wesolek> hello guys :)
[02:08] <benji> does anyone know about dvd-ripping in linux? I have a simple question...
[02:08] <marltu> BMP is discontinued, now enjoy BMPx
[02:08] <nickrud> wesolek, how'd it go?
[02:08] <wesolek> nickrud, I am on that website you told me to paste these files, and not sure what syntax to use
[02:08] <wesolek> it didn't work at all
[02:09] <wesolek> had to go back to vesa :( nickrud
[02:09] <nickrud> just copy and paste into the textarea
[02:09] <nconlon> Student ok i'm confuisd sorry
[02:09] <nickrud> wesolek, did you make a clean copy of the Xorg.0.log file?
[02:09] <qnyc> lunitus, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/55646
[02:09] <Student> nconlon, It's ok, I'll keep looking.
[02:09] <MED> i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory), anything to fix this?
[02:09] <wesolek> nickrud... not sure what you mean by clean copy
[02:09] <AaronCampbell> When I first installed Kubuntu Feisty, I had problems with my wireless network working, but my wired gigabit didn't.  I'm having the same problem again after a power outage 2 days ago...and I can't seem to figure out how I fixed it originally (with help from here)
[02:10] <qnyc> lunitus, your problem has to do with video overlay
[02:10] <lunitus> qnyc I thought so but how do I change it?
[02:10] <nickrud> wesolek, before you restarted in vesa mode
[02:10] <AaronCampbell> I'm wondering if a recent update of some sort could have caused it, and it took effect after the restart?
[02:10] <lunitus> in the windows driver you can just toggle it
[02:10] <wesolek> nickrud, what I did was when it failed to load the xserver, I just copied the files you asked me to to a different location :)
[02:10] <lunitus> there isn't that option in the linux driver
[02:10] <nickrud> wesolek, :)
[02:10] <wesolek> nickrud, oh yeah :) I did that
[02:10] <persica> kravlin: The best way to test Grub options is to use the command-line interface in grub.  Usually you get to it by pressing 'c' from the menu.
[02:10] <qnyc> lunitus, that bug report offers a workaround for an external monitor on a laptop, not sure about tv out though
[02:10] <wesolek> nickrud.... I'm not that dumb lol
[02:11] <null___> The latest version of OpenOffice.Org in the Feisty repos is 2.2.0-1, which is broken due to a startup bug.  Can someone help me find the sources to add that will offer me a newer version?  I don't want to download the entire 200MB release from the official site.
[02:11] <lunitus> ok I shall check it out
[02:11] <mruedy> nickrud: sending sources.list - waiting reply
[02:11] <Bdonohue> Does anyone have any experience with getting Ubuntu to boot as a liveCD off of a flash drive?
[02:11] <nconlon> brb
[02:11] <Nu11u5> Anyone able to help me figure out why I have no opengl support?  I am running Feisty with the supplied nvidia-glx packages for my gforce4-mx integrated 'card'.  When ever I try to run an application that uses opengl (various games, mplayer using gl2 output, or things under Wine or Cedega) all I get is a black screen, but the program continues running otherwise normally.  Any ideas where to start?
[02:11] <persica> kravlin: from there you just enter everything after a title line to boot something.
[02:11] <persica> kravlin: Did you get your option for windows at all?
[02:11] <nickrud> wesolek, wasn't sure if you were using the terminal or not.
[02:11] <kravlin> persica: ok. Ill use that this time. At least we got somewhere with this one. This time it started up and showed the screen for a second before going to default.
[02:11] <skarface> Nu11u5: are you running beryl?
[02:11] <nickrud> wesolek, but, on reflection, that was a dumb thought on my part
[02:11] <persica> kravlin: which screen?
[02:11] <Nu11u5> no
[02:11] <wesolek> do you want me to paste one after another, nickrud?
[02:11] <nickrud> wesolek, yeah, separately
[02:11] <persica> kravlin: the grub screen or the windows screen?
[02:11] <omarion> i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory), anything to fix this?
[02:11] <kravlin> the Grub: choices screen
[02:12] <wesolek> lol nickrud, I am actually that dumb lol
[02:12] <Student> The only people who could probably help me out would be something along the lines of uber ubuntu gurus - at this point.
[02:12] <Nu11u5> I also have "Desktop Effect" disabled as they caused teh desktop to be rendered oddly while using TwinView for dual monitor support
[02:12] <nconlon> anyone on the new mexico LoCo?
[02:12] <docta_v> how can i add a secondary IP without adding a virtual interface
[02:12] <persica> kravlin: so it's timing out on the grub screen too quickly?  You can adjust the time-out in your menu.lst
[02:12] <incorperated> can someone help me install the true reality emulator
[02:12] <incorperated> ?
[02:12] <docta_v> like i have a bunch of IPs listed in ip addr show for eth4
[02:12] <docta_v> but none of them have eth4:1, eth4:2, etc.
[02:12] <wesolek> nickrud, in the same window? just separate them somehow?
[02:12] <persica> kravlin: it's the 'timeout' line.
[02:12] <mruedy> nickrud: sending sources.list - timed out
[02:12] <docta_v> if i run ifconfig eth4 add ....
[02:12] <kravlin> persica: no. I have a 10 second timer on that. It literally flashed onto the screen for a second.
[02:12] <docta_v> it will create a new virtual interface with the IP, eth4:0
[02:13] <lmosher> I'm using gparted on the Ubuntu liveDVD and I can't move my partition. I just deleted the first partition, and I want to -move- the second partition towards the front so I can make it bigger. It seems the option for "free space preceeding" is greyed out
[02:13] <hhalvors> just starting with Ubuntu, and I messed something up ... tried to add checkgmail to startup programs, and now gnome does not start properly for this user (no icons, just a blank wallpaper).  Can someone help?
[02:13] <kravlin> Persica: Then it immediately went to my default option.
[02:13] <Nu11u5> skarface: but to be clear, I did try disabling TwinView to see if it was responsible for my opengl problems, not the case
[02:13] <nickrud> mruedy, try again, I just got a page
[02:13] <persica> kravlin: hrm... that sounds odd.
[02:13] <Warbo> hhalvors: How did you add it?
[02:13] <kravlin> yeah...
[02:13] <omarion> i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory), anything to fix this?
[02:14] <nickrud> persica, kravlin those are 10'ths of a second ;)
[02:14] <mruedy> nickrud: awaiting reply....
[02:14] <hhalvors> Warbo: system -> preferences -> sessions
[02:14] <persica> nickrud: 10ths?  Mine waits for 10 seconds and it's set to 10...
[02:14] <Warbo> hhalvors: Oh OK, then I don't know the problem then, sorry
[02:14] <kravlin> nickrud: funny.
[02:14] <nickrud> maybe I've got lilo mixed up in it then
[02:14] <AaronCampbell> I do see in my system log "eth0: no IPv6 routers present" ...might I need to change something wrt that?
[02:14] <hhalvors> Warbo: is there a way to manually remove checkgmail from the start programs, so that user can log in again.
[02:15] <persica> nickrud: must be. :)
[02:15] <Student> Is there anything else aside from incorrect menu.lst entries that could prevent proper filesys mounting?
[02:15] <lmosher> hhalvors: You don't get a gnome panel at all, so you can't go to sessions again?
[02:15] <nickrud> omarion, what are you compiling? (I'm stretching here)
[02:15] <Warbo> hhalvors: I used to do it with a "session" file in te .gnome2 folder in my home, but that doesn't seem to exist in the latest versions :(
[02:15] <hhalvors> lmosher: yes (but I have another working account from which I can edit that user's files)
[02:16] <wesolek> nickrud... I just noticed that the error was the framebuffer
[02:16] <Warbo> hhalvors: Have you tried on the login screen choosing Options>Session and choosing Failsafe GNOME
[02:16] <persica> kravlin: if we're not even getting the menu... hrm.
[02:16] <omarion> nickrud: compiling a modem driver
[02:16] <nconlon> hhalvors Warbo what about tty2 or something open the file with nano and remove the line
[02:16] <hhalvors> Warbo: thanks ... I'm going to try that now
[02:16] <lmosher> I'm using gparted on the Ubuntu liveDVD and I can't move my partition. I just deleted the first partition, and I want to -move- the second partition towards the front so I can make it bigger. It seems the option for "free space preceeding" is greyed out
[02:17] <Warbo> nconlon: GNOME seems to have changed and doesn't use a text file anymore, at least last time I checked
[02:17] <Nu11u5> skarface (or anyone else): at first I though it might be that Ubuntu was using the nvidia-glx package rather than the nvidia-legacy-glx, but from what I can tell, its using the correct driver version (legacy) anyway...
[02:17] <rubydo> Hi, I'm trying to install libpcap. I should have a /usr/lib/libpcap.so.o.7 pointed to by a symbolic link  /usr/lib/libpcap.so - after apt-getting the normal and dev versions I have the symbolic link pointing to the right file but the file is not there. Any pointers?
[02:17] <nconlon> Warbo ah ok
[02:17] <alliecat> I need some help configuring Samba to get files and use a printer connected to a Windows XP PC in Feisty
[02:17] <LordLimecat> im having partition nightmares here :( i was unable (dont know why) to  create a ext3 partition on a secondary harddrive...so i tried Fat32, and now i am unable to write to the partition...ive chowned the directory its being mounted to, but i still cannot access it
[02:17] <wesolek> nickrud: but when I did change the option for the framebuffer, the error message was: no screens found... however this error message is not in this log file... should I mention that at the bottom of this paste thing?
[02:17] <omarion> hello, i had this error while compliling: (error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory), anything to fix this?
[02:17] <persica> kravlin: I might suggest reinstalling Ubuntu to try to get it to auto-create a sane grub.  I'm trying to find a command which will do that for you without the installer...
[02:18] <nconlon> Warbo been stuck working with FC2 at school trying to teach linux+ with it...
[02:18] <alliecat> Is there a Samba channel on this network or can someone here help me? :o
[02:18] <hhalvors> Warbo: uh oh, even "Failsafe gnome" is not working.  Are there some session/preference files I can clear out?
[02:18] <kravlin> persica: The value we put in is gone.
[02:18] <Scunizi> !partition | LordLimecat
[02:18] <ubotu> LordLimecat: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:18] <alliecat> !samba
[02:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:18] <nconlon> alliecat what are you trying to do with samba
[02:18] <Warbo> hhalvors: Well all I can think of is removing the whole .gnome2 folder from you home, but that will have preferences for other GNOME stuff too
[02:18] <kravlin> persica: Oh and i now have two lists. I have grub.lst and grub.lst~
[02:19] <alliecat> simply use a printer on a windows PC
[02:19] <Warbo> hhalvors: (and I'm not certain that would work either)
[02:19] <nickrud> omarion, you probably want the kernel-headers that match your kernel:  kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[02:19] <alliecat> and also get shared files from it
[02:19] <linos> what is the command to mount a pci usb device..  thanks in advance  ubuntu edgy 6.10
[02:19] <persica> kravlin: grub.lst~ is an automatic backup file.
[02:19] <nickrud> wesolek, sure
[02:19] <Student> GRUB just mounts the chosen partition, not the filesystem itself, right? I mean is the filesystem mounted by some program on the partition, or is GRUB in charge of that too?
[02:19] <persica> kravlin: grub will igore it.
[02:19] <hhalvors> Warbo: OK, trying now to remove all of .gnome2 (no preferences have been set yet)
[02:19] <LordLimecat> Scunizi: i used gparted to make the partition...trying to make the ext3, it just stopped at "making partition".....
[02:19] <omarion> nickrud: thanks
[02:19] <LordLimecat> i mounted the partition with sudo mount
[02:19] <lunitus> qnyc I tried that workaround for the secondary display but I get an error when running the command after installing xvattr
[02:20] <Warbo> hhalvors: Og course, you could uninstall checkgmail, log in, turn it off then reinstall it
[02:20] <Warbo> *of
[02:20] <nconlon> alliecat go to system>administration>printing
[02:20] <spheard> anyone know a good network animation applet?
[02:20] <spheard> in kde?
[02:20] <persica> Student: Opens it RO and then runs the kernel, which is responsible for getting the mounts set up correctly, I believe.
[02:20] <wesolek> ok done it, nickrud
[02:20] <nickrud> wesolek, so, gimme a link :)
[02:21] <LordLimecat> Scunizi: according to mount, the partition IS mounted RW to a folder owned by me
[02:21] <kravlin> ah.
[02:21] <wesolek> huh?
[02:21] <wesolek> I just closed that widnow, nickrud
[02:21] <wesolek> nickrud, you see I am that dumb lol
[02:21] <kravlin> persica: lemme try one thing then. I may have been updating the wrong list.
[02:21] <Student> persica, What exactly is this R0 and are you saying that R0 is responsible for mounting the actual filesystem?
[02:21] <nconlon> alliecat then new printer network printer in the drop down go to Windows Printer (SMB) from there fill in the info for the computer and the printer
[02:21] <punsad> my debian server kept crashing.  had some kernel panics.  error message said something about virtual page fault.  so I threw in ubuntu disk to do memtest.  It's been running all day.  How do I know if my memory is good?
[02:21] <nickrud> wesolek, rlfol (been there, done that)
[02:21] <wesolek> nickrud, can I somehow retrieve it?
[02:22] <punsad> I thought it would be done by now
[02:22] <nickrud> wesolek, I was just looking, and I don't see a history yet
[02:22] <wesolek> nick, here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[02:22] <qnyc> lunitus, this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78541.html
[02:22] <SAM_theman> Guys I am going to change gnome !!!
[02:22] <hhalvors> ... arghh, even removing the .gnome2 folder does not allow gnome to startup.
[02:22] <SAM_theman> Remember this
[02:22] <nconlon> alliecat and your username and password on that vomputer
[02:22] <incorperated>  so can someone help me with the emulator
[02:23] <wesolek> nickrud, I redeemed myself (look above)
[02:23] <incorperated> the TrueReality
[02:23] <lunitus> qnyc thanks I'll check it out
[02:23] <incorperated> id really appreciate the help
[02:23] <persica> Student: RO = Read Only.  Grub reads the file system just to get the kernel and run it (the stage files and the vmlinuz files in /boot)
[02:23] <SAM_theman> senix my new opensource linux
[02:23] <nconlon> computer^
[02:23] <persica> punsad: memtest runs till you stop it. :)
[02:23] <nickrud> wesolek, I just found it also
[02:23] <wesolek> lol
[02:23] <kravlin> persica: Could i get that web page you sent me at the very beginning of this again?
[02:23] <monster> My mouse is intermittently interpreting my single clicks as double clicks.
[02:23] <Student> persica, Ahh, but it's the kernel that actually mounts the filesystem - right?
[02:23] <SAM_theman> not..
[02:23] <monster> anyone have an idea?
[02:23] <lunitus> qnyc that's exactly my problem
[02:24] <persica> punsad: I made that mistake the first time I ran it.
[02:24] <persica> Student: right.
[02:24] <punsad> persica: what am I looking for in terms of pass/fail results?
[02:24] <Nu11u5> /leave
[02:24] <persica> kravlin: that wasn't actually me, but I'll find you something similar.
[02:24] <qnyc> lunitus, I have that card but I haven't done tv-out yet
[02:25] <persica> punsad: it should have some statistics, as long as it has everything passing then you're good.  I haven't run it for a while though.
[02:25] <Student> persica, Do you know specific files that control this kernel filesystem mounting - is there any way they could get corrupted and leat to an error?
[02:25] <punsad> persica:okeydokey ... thanks
[02:25] <hoelk> hmm
[02:25] <lunitus> qnyc, I use it to output all video to my lcd tv, it's really the only thing keeping me from using ubuntu full time, it probably wouldn't be a problem if I had an nvidia card right?
[02:25] <hoelk> how to shutdown linux in x minutes?
[02:25] <alliecat> not so much on that, nconlon
[02:26] <jrib> hoelk: shutdown accepts TIME as an argument
[02:26] <alliecat> i can't find the printer on the network
[02:26] <hhalvors> hoelk: shutdown -h ...
[02:26] <hoelk> ah great
[02:26] <nj786> does anybody know if u can burn (copy) a dvd using a dvd+r disc?
[02:26] <hoelk> thanks :)
[02:26] <alliecat> though i can see all the computers on the network now, that's an improvement over before
[02:26] <punsad> nj786: yes
[02:26] <lmosher> nj786: A video DVD, or another dvd+r you burned?
[02:26] <jrib> hoelk: man shutdown  explains a nice way of doing it:  shutdown now+5   for 5 minutes
[02:27] <hoelk> shutokay thanks
[02:27] <nj786> lmosher, i want to copy a dvd using dvd+r
[02:27] <persica> Student: The kernel refers to /etc/fstab for what partitions to mount where.
[02:27] <nj786> punsad, ?
[02:27] <nj786> lmosher,  a dvd thati bought form the store
[02:27] <nj786> from*
[02:28] <digitalfox> howdy
[02:28] <qnyc> lunitus, I think nvidia only supports overlay on one screen at a time also, not sure
[02:28] <Dert1cK> hi all
[02:28] <digitalfox> I have a question about the network install technique outlined https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromAnotherDistro here
[02:28] <nickrud> wesolek, well, we've reached the limit of my knowledge, and that error message pulls up exaclty one google page :) but if someone smarter comes along that info should tell them just what they need :)
[02:28] <wesolek> nickrud, will you help go through one my trial before I go to sleep? it's on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:28] <Student> persica, I guess that's not it then - just if you were wondering, I'm trying to solve this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[02:28] <lmosher> nj786: You can, it depends what the DVD is. If it's video, or a recent game... it might be bigger than 4GB, which means it might not fit on your DVD+R unless it's dual layer
[02:28] <digitalfox> namely: why am I getting ".: 349: feisty: not found" when I attempt to adapt it to feisty?
[02:28] <linos> can someone help me mount my usb device
[02:29] <wesolek> nickrud, thanks a lot anyway
[02:29] <persica> Kravlin: look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty and go to the part about adding windows to the boot loader.
[02:29] <wesolek> nickrud, I really appreciate your time and effort :)
[02:29] <retour> Hi all! Why Ubuntu setup to use my routers IP as DNS server doesnt work?
[02:29] <lmosher> nj786: If it's a video, there are some utilities to rip the video and then encode it in a poorer quality so it will fit on a burnable single-layer DVD. If it's a game, there's not much you can do but put it on two disks
[02:29] <jima21742> Can someone tell me how to change the permissions on a hard drive? It's currently set @ read only (formally a win2003 file server) Please?
[02:30] <nickrud> wesolek, you're right, framebuffer it is, and I'm decent at checking configs, That's about it
[02:30] <roadkill> is there a moto tools for ununtu?
[02:30] <lmosher> jima21742: Is it an NTFS partition?
[02:30] <Dert1cK> Here there are girls?
[02:30] <nj786> lmosher, i have a dvd+r(16x)disc and i am trying to make a copy of a dvd
[02:30] <bryan> just loaded is there something compatible to MSN Messenger
[02:30] <jima21742> Yes, lmosher
[02:30] <Dert1cK> Here there are girls?
[02:30] <persica> Student: sounds like you're missing your root partition.  That's the part where the kernel goes looking for the partition, but it can't find it.
[02:30] <roadkill> is there a moto tools for ununtu?
[02:30] <lmosher> jima21742: Go to www.ubuntuguide.org, look for the question about mounting NTFS partitions (it's a FAQ guide) and it'll tell you. I just did it today but I forgot the directions. You need to isntall something, but it's pretty easy :)
[02:30] <wesolek> nickrud, there is a step in the link that I don't understand very well, will you help me get it right?
[02:31] <persica> Studnet: is Senesence you?
[02:31] <mel> wacom cursor behave like stylet !! ?
[02:31] <jima21742> awesome....thanks
[02:31] <Dert1cK> Girls respond please write to me!
[02:31] <nickrud> wesolek, sure. Which one? Maybe I'll learn something new again
[02:31] <Student> persica, But I could mount my ubuntu partition from the live cd, and access all my files - doesn't that mean that root is there?
[02:31] <lmosher> nj786: yes I undertand. Your dvd+r 16x disk is probably -not- big enough to hold the information on the DVD you bought.
[02:31] <wesolek> nickrud, here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:31] <LorenCA> why cant i get to #php
[02:31] <wesolek> we can start with feisty
[02:32] <persica> Student: that sounds like the file system is there, but for some reason the kernel isn't finding it.  I assume you didn't do anything weird to change the order of your drives.  (For IDE drives that would mean changing the cable or master-slave designation).
[02:32] <nj786> lmosher, ok how do  i rip the dvd onto my computer?
[02:32] <wesolek> nickrud, we can start with feisty (a bit down) but it didn't work yesterday
[02:32] <silvertip257> I'm not having luck compiling openssh while chrooting into my busybox environment it will be a part of
[02:32] <nj786> lmosher, i tried dvd:rip but i dono whats wrong
[02:32] <lmosher> nj786: It's a movie, right?
[02:32] <nj786> yes
[02:32] <nickrud> wesolek, you have other issues. Before you can get to that, you really need to get the free ati working.
[02:33] <Student> persica, I did nothing with either the hardware or software, my fstam and menu.lst all seem to be pointing in the right places....any suggestions?
[02:33] <roadkill> is there a moto tools for ununtu?
[02:33] <wesolek> nickrud, do you really think that I am stuck?
[02:33] <Bdonohue> Anyone have any clue about flash drives and Ubuntu?
[02:34] <nj786> lmosher, yes it is amovie
[02:34] <roadkill> is there a moto tools for ununtu?
[02:34] <roadkill> is there a moto tools for ubuntu?
[02:34] <lmosher> nj786: Hrm. dvd::rip is what I would have suggested. I've only used it once though, I'm not very experienced :(
[02:34] <nickrud> wesolek, It's probably something very simple. I just don't know what it is.
[02:34] <iratsu> i installed kubuntu-desktop and my splash screen change to kubuntu and i think a few defaults changed to KDE. How can I change these back?
[02:34] <mel> ubuntu in kabylian why not kabyle like zinedine ZIDANE
[02:34] <Zenerek> Need some help here, so i've been asking here and at the ubuntu forums for help about a hardware raid setup the won't work, so i finally gave up and installed ubuntu on a single 80gb hd, before on my other and first ubuntu box i was not able to get widesreen resolution(card too weak), but now i got a 5200 geforce that i know can run 1280X720 but won't in ubuntu, i installed in text mode and was not able to choose 1280X720, i edited the xorg
[02:34] <wesolek> nickrud, the thing is, I can't see that driver in the restricted drivers manager
[02:35] <nj786> lmosher, oh rats! well do you know anybody here that is familiar with dvd:rip
[02:35] <wesolek> nickrud, do you think this may be a problem?
[02:35] <nj786> lmosher, i am just trying to rip a movie thats all
[02:36] <lmosher> nj786: sorry nope I don't visit here enough :( Is dvdrip giving you an error?
[02:36] <wesolek> nickrud, I really don't know what driver the system was using before I started installing ati and fglrx etc... I may as well messed something up badly myself
[02:36] <persica> Student: very weird.  It looks like everything should be pointing to the right place and the file system valid.
[02:37] <Student> persica, Yea, it's driving me crazy - I just can't figure out what happened.
[02:37] <shwag> does ubuntu have that screensaver that looks like all the different OS's crash creens...blue screen, sad mac.
[02:37] <nickrud> wesolek, possible, but the xorg.conf you posted is fine. Did you do something that referenced 'framebuffer'?
[02:37] <lmosher> nj786: Try this software here: http://www.ehow.com/how_2046915_rip-dvds-linux-acidrip.html
[02:37] <nj786> lmosher, no i just do not know how to rip a movie
[02:38] <Zenerek> does anyone here run a widescreen resoultion?
[02:38] <persica> Student: I'm sure it's something innoculous that you just wouldn't think of.
[02:38] <wesolek> not that I remember of, nickrud, but I can turn it back one... it's one of the steps when I reconfigure the xorg
[02:39] <persica> Student: You mounted it from a liveCD, so you at least have your data, right?
[02:39] <persica> Student: and the file-system seems to be intact, right?
[02:39] <nj786> lmosher, where can i find acid dvd rip?
[02:39] <Student> Student, Right on all counts, but still I get that error.
[02:39] <nickrud> wesolek, no, the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh cleared out any thing you did on the configuration screens.
[02:39] <wesolek> nickrud, it's on now, I had to turn it on when switched back to vesa... only whey you told me to type that command in the terminal (at the beginning) it didn't ask me that question... it was very simple, just one driver and that's it
[02:39] <retour> Is it OK do define my Linksys router with masquerading ON as a gateway AND DNS?
[02:40] <kravlin> persica: Still getting that wierd error.... I did drop the default option because i don't want it booting into windows.
[02:40] <nickrud> wesolek, a question I probably should have asked a while back: what card?
[02:40] <Student> persica, The only other thing I could think of is if there is some other file that has something to do with mounting - and maybe got corrupted somehow.
[02:40] <lunitus> ok, I got my video to output to my tv, but the video is only displaying in an area that is half the size it should be, any thoughts?
[02:40] <wesolek> nickrud, yes, it does it every time I reconfigure that xorg file, as for some reason the default for the framebuffer is NO
[02:41] <nickrud> wesolek, that's good
[02:41] <Zenerek> nickrud: would running that xorg command allow me to get the 1280x720 resolution?
[02:41] <fivetwentysix> Is there any texas hold em calculators written for linux?>
[02:41] <wesolek> lol nickrud, it's a ATI Radeon IGP320M on ALI1525 graphics controller
[02:42] <persica> Student: "mount: mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: no such device" seems to imply it's working but can't find the device. I wonder if maybe the /dev system is damaged.  I don't know much about that.  what about a reinstall without reformatting?
[02:42] <wesolek> on suse was working great out of box :), nickrud
[02:42] <persica> kravlin: hrm.  error?  I thought it was just booting into the default OS (Ubuntu)?
[02:42] <nickrud> Zenerek, possibly, depends on how recent your driver / monitor are
[02:42] <Frogzoo> fivetwentysix: apt-cache-search poker
[02:42] <nickrud> wesolek, a sec
[02:42] <wesolek> nickrud ok
[02:43] <Student> persica, Umm - what exactly will that entail, I mean will I lose all the configuration I have made so far?
[02:43] <mozphat> ATI sucks...  Are all NVIDIA chipset based good or its better to get an NVIDIA card?
[02:43] <lo4fer> is there an operand for the rm command that will delete all files in a directory? -r seems to be the closest but i want to preserve the directory, just empty the files.
[02:43] <kravlin> persica: yeah but it doesn't let me access the menu at all.
[02:43] <fivetwentysix> Frogzoo: nothing.
[02:43] <jabickett52> !codecs
[02:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:44] <fivetwentysix> They're all development libraries
[02:44] <qnyc> lo4fer, rm -rf
[02:44] <Zenerek> nickrud it's not really a normal monitor, it's a 40 inch lcd tv with a vga input and i have not downloaded the glx drivers(it a gefore 5200)
[02:44] <qnyc> lo4fer, that will delete the directory though
[02:45] <tck> In people's opinions, what the best backup program for Feisty?
[02:45] <persica> Student:  Most of your configuration should be stored in your home directory.  If you don't overwrite that (or back it up and restore it) then you'll likely have your config.  You can also do 'dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' to get a list of your installed packages.  You can then reinstall and restore your home to basically have the same config.
[02:45] <persica> Student: stuff like printers and X you'd have to reconfigure though.
[02:45] <nickrud> Zenerek, if you can identify it's horizontal refresh and vertical sync, you can add them to the xorg.conf stanza for it and then add the resolution. a link follows
[02:46] <lo4fer> i see. yeah i would like to just delete the files in a directory and leave the directory alone. if i have to rm -r and then mkdir over again then that's life i guess.
[02:46] <texas-west-bot> heh wow i can join with my bot
[02:46] <nickrud> !fixres | Zenerek
[02:46] <ubotu> Zenerek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:46] <persica> kravlin: try moving your menu.lst to a back up and running 'sudo update-grub' that should get you a sane grub file that lets you into the menu.
[02:46] <Ravenndude`> Is there a way to may the gnome-volume that my media keys chance, to change a different channel of my sound?
[02:46] <leonel> !server
[02:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:46] <persica> kravlin: comment out the 'hiddenmenu' option if it's in there.
[02:46] <Zenerek> nickrud alright thanks, i'll see if i can fix it later
[02:46] <Student> persica, Ohh, is there any way to just swap out the dev system - like mount my main partition and then replace dev with the dev from the live cd?? Sound sketchy I know - but could it be done?
[02:47] <xxddss> test
[02:47] <texas-west-bot> to lazy to launch another mirc...
[02:47] <persica> Student: dev is generated at boot and is not actually a real file system.  It's generated by rules in /etc/udev.
[02:47] <qnyc> lo4fer, you could do cd into the directory then do  rm -rf ./*
[02:48] <lo4fer> that looks good to me. thanks qnyc.
[02:48] <wesolek> nickrud, do I have time to brush my teeth?
[02:48] <compuniversal> Hello Guys and ladys
[02:48] <Student> persica, Any way this could be fixed without re-installation - I mean if not I might as well just get a brand new Feisty cd.
[02:48] <kravlin> persica : how do i access grub without rebooting?
[02:48] <wesolek> hello compuniversal
[02:48] <nickrud> wesolek, absolutely. In fact, I need to go eat dinner
[02:48] <lo4fer> ./ means current dir, * means everything, generally speaking in cli yeah?
[02:48] <compuniversal> can you let me know some channel in spanish
[02:48] <wesolek> will you be back soon, nickrud?
[02:48] <texas-west-bot> but i seem to be unable to launch my desktop-effects and when i use gldesktop nothing happens eather any suggestions?
[02:49] <lunitus> what program should I use to open rar files?
[02:49] <wesolek> I want to get that restricted drivers srted out
[02:49] <persica> kravlin: you can access it's command line by just running 'grub'.  I'm not sure what you are trying to do?
[02:49] <inthepit> anyone know if there is a way to enable remote desktop on another ubuntu machine via ssh?
[02:49] <hagabaka> lo4fer: in bourne shells and other programs that support it
[02:49] <inthepit> on my lan
[02:49] <compuniversal> i undestand very good english
[02:49] <nickrud> wesolek, I've found enough to know that it should work, and don't have a clue as to why not. Keep those two pastebins, handy, and keep asking. Someone smarter will come along
[02:49] <persica> Student: I'm just sort of out of ideas for trouble-shooting over IRC.
[02:49] <qnyc> !spanish | compuniversal
[02:49] <ubotu> compuniversal: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:49] <compuniversal> Perfect
[02:49] <compuniversal> thank you so much
[02:50] <Student> persica, Well thanks for trying at least. I appreciate the effort.
[02:50] <kravlin> persica: To test if the problem persisted. You said there is a way to check it.
[02:50] <wesolek> I think, nickrud, you are smart enough :)
[02:50] <lo4fer> how about this then: rm -rf ../* so would that delete all files in the parent directory of the directory in which the command is given?
[02:50] <compuniversal> ubotu
[02:50] <leonel> is there a CD  version with  universe ?  I mean  if I need a Server in a Local LAN  with No internet access  how can I install universe Packages  ?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ubotu | compuniversal
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compuniversal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <compuniversal> tk u
[02:51] <nconlon> how can i get ubotu on my server?
[02:51] <persica> kravlin: you can access the grub commandline from the grub menu during the boot process by pressing 'e'.
[02:51] <Frogzoo> fivetwentysix: no - python-pypoker-eval ?
[02:51] <wesolek> ok brb
[02:51] <nconlon> !ubotu
[02:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:51] <retour> Is it OK do define my Linksys router with masquerading as a gateway AND DNS?
[02:51] <fivetwentysix> Frogzoo Those are development files
[02:51] <persica> kravlin: I'm suggesting now that we (re)move your old menu.lst and generate a new one so you should at least be able to get to the menu.
[02:52] <kravlin> i backed it up.
[02:52] <lunitus> when trying to open a rar archive with ark I get the following error: The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[02:52] <persica> retour: gateway and DNS are essentially separate functions.  It's fine to have a router do both, but if you don't have the DNS set up right you'll have issues.
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> !unrar
[02:52] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:52] <Frogzoo> fivetwentysix: well then maybe something under wine
[02:52] <Luziphir> Hi, sound just stopped working on my ubuntu installation, anyone think they might be able to help?
[02:53] <lunitus> all praise be to ubotu
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> ubotu is a genius
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a genius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <persica> Luziphir: first check that all the cables are in there and the sound is on. Check your mixer panels.
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol, well maybe not.
[02:53] <arnold-583> i am trying to connect ubuntu with a mac os x box via nfs on a local network, and i know the machines can see each other, and i have /etc/exports configured the way i want it (i think), but am having a permissions issue: when I attempt to mount a shared folder from the client I get "mount_nfs: can't access /dir: Permission denied"
[02:53] <nconlon> !.rpm
[02:53] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:53] <inthepit> anyone know if there is a way to enable remote desktop on another ubuntu machine via ssh that is on my lan?  it is not hooked up to a keyboard, mouse or monitor
[02:54] <Luziphir> persica: Yeah, I made sure my speakers are working, when I adjust the volume using alsamixer, I get a small clicking sound
[02:55] <Dave132> im getting a black screen on logut how can i fix this problem?
[02:55] <persica> kravlin: try getting rid of the original and running 'sudo update-grub' to generate a new one.  It won't detect windows, but should get you something that lets you get to the menu.  From the menu you can test boot commands to get Windows to boot, then add the ones that work to your menu.lst.
[02:55] <fivetwentysix> Can I use C libraries in C++?
[02:55] <compuniversal> INTHEPIT / VNU
[02:55] <compuniversal> INTHEPIT / VNC
[02:55] <compuniversal> SORRY
[02:55] <persica> luziphir: clicking when you adjust?  Could you explain more?
[02:55] <fivetwentysix> otherwise I could consider writing a program myself.
[02:55] <fivetwentysix> But I only know C++ :-(
[02:55] <pike_> inthepit: i dont know about remote desktop but usually you install vncserver and ssh in and run it
[02:56] <kravlin> ok.
[02:56] <persica> luziphir: you've also tried a variety of applications, e.g. xmms, amorok, and aplay?
[02:56] <inthepit> ok. will try that
[02:56] <Luziphir> persica: adjusting the master or pcm volume causes a small clicking/popping sound to emit from the speakers
[02:56] <pike_> inthepit: then vncviewer on the client box
[02:56] <metbsd> i heard that ubuntu installation cd has a partition magic?
[02:56] <persica> metbsd: it should have gparted, which does basically the same things.
[02:57] <metbsd> can it make some partition from ntfs?
[02:57] <persica> Luziphir: hrm... an odd one.  And you've tried rebooting (sounds like heresy, I know)?
[02:57] <pike_> metbsd: yep, backup anything critical though, ya never know
[02:58] <arnold-583> can anyone help me with a problem with nfs?
[02:58] <persica> metbsd: it can't make NTFS partitions, but it can resize them and create new ones.
[02:58] <kravlin> Persica: I'm gonna reboot in a bit. Ill tell you what happens then.
[02:58] <persica> metbsd: i've successfully use it to resize windows partitions to make room for linux at least half-a-dozen times now.
[02:58] <Luziphir> persica: yep, I've tried rebooting, I've tried a number of different applications as well, aplay, gxine, banshee and totem, to be exact
[02:58] <lunitus> what's everyone using for mp3 playback?
[02:58] <persica> kravlin: good luck.
[02:58] <DeFirence> is it possible for a keys to be emulated and stuff to happen on a linux session while the session is locked?
[02:58] <metbsd> is there chance of gparted fcked up my ntfs partition?
[02:58] <persica> linitis: xmms currently, or an ipod. :)
[02:59] <lunitus> haha, thanks
[02:59] <persica> metbsd: there is a chance.  There's always a chance. :)
[02:59] <metbsd> problem is i don't have much space on my laptop
[02:59] <metbsd> but i want to install it if possible
[03:00] <greg_g> what is the gnome dvd burning program, google is not helping
[03:00] <nj786> how do i download acid rip?
[03:00] <preaction> !burn | greg_g
[03:00] <ubotu> greg_g: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:00] <persica> metbsd: I'd back up anything important, just in case, but gparted will help you make space for ubuntu if you want to install it.  A few gigs is all you need
[03:00] <metbsd> and i want to install kdm
[03:00] <Luziphir> any other ideas?
[03:00] <kravlin> nj786: use the Synaptic package manager
[03:00] <DeFirence> ?
[03:00] <metbsd> how many gigs
[03:00] <lunitus> ubotu what's the new white stripes album like?
[03:00] <persica> metbsd: go with kbuntu then.  It takes less than 5 to install the base OS.
[03:01] <lunitus> pfft damn robots
[03:01] <DeFirence> is it possible for a keys to be emulated and stuff to happen on a linux session while the session is locked?
[03:02] <persica> luziphir, i'm trying to remember my old battles with alsa.  Do you have a non-mixing soundcard, e.g. audigy or AC97?
[03:02] <Monkey_Man> Can someone suggest a good beryl installation tutorial?
[03:02] <fz420> hi.how are you
[03:02] <Small_Mac> help, kpdf doesn't have any printer in its list of print options, i only see print to fax, print to pdf, etc, i configured my printer and i can print from open office as default, thx
[03:03] <soyporti> Monkey_Man: look for the beryl channel
[03:03] <MattJ> Monkey_Man, join #ubuntu-effects
[03:03] <persica> DeFirence, a locked session is very hard to hijack from a terminal, but it's doable, especially as root.  As long as you control root access and access as your user, you shouldn't have to worry about people hacking through the locked screen.
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl
[03:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:03] <arnold-583> can someone help me with a permissions problem?
[03:04] <soyporti> Monkey_Man: if you want i can help you
[03:05] <DeFirence> persica, what im trying to do is: i have a script that emulates mouse and keyboard, and auto controls other programs, now i want to run this on a session on linux, but that isnt locally logged in
[03:05] <DeFirence> if that makes any sense? :)
[03:06] <persica> Isn't locally logged in?  If you want it to interact with windows you'll either have to have a real x session running or create a virtual one inside something like VNC.
[03:06] <wesolek> ok back... nickrud are you here?
[03:06] <goldbond> i am trying to kill a directory with this command: sudo rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty django_src. but it will not die
[03:06] <nj786> does anybody know what this means for acidrip  Place your DVD in the drive and then on the right-hand-side of the window where it says "Video Source" type the path to your DVD drive. Select "Load"
[03:07] <holymoly> nj786, probably /media/cdrom or /media/dvd
[03:07] <metbsd> will live kubuntu work just as well as installed version
[03:07] <soyporti> i need drivers for an  Ati radeon 9250 video card any idea??
 Isn't locally logged in?  If you want it to interact with windows <-- i never said anything about windows? :P
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> metsdepends
[03:07] <goldbond> the directory is symbolically linked if that is a helpful clue
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: depends
[03:08] <goldbond> how do i remove it?
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | soyporti
[03:08] <ubotu> soyporti: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:08] <persica> metbsd: it will be a lot slower loading anything from the disk, and you won't have anywhere to write files to.
[03:08] <metbsd> is there livedvd?
[03:08] <Luziphir> hmm, that's odd
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: yes, its on Kubuntu.org
[03:09] <persica> DeFirence, I figured since you were using the mouse you'd be interacting with something in X.  You could just have a script that runs in the background and sends mouse/keyboard events to the kernel.  What happens will then depend on what's running and what is watching those events.
[03:09] <SirBob1701> anyone know how to change the directory where cedega installs game resources?
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: i'd recommend you stick with the i386 version
[03:09] <metbsd> dvd has more stuff than cd?
[03:10] <metbsd> i only have i386 anyway
[03:10] <pike_> SirBob1701: cd .cedega or somesuch probably
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: yeah, probably... i've never messed with the DVD vs. the Cd.
[03:10] <pike_> SirBob1701: ls -a ~ | grep -i cedega
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: how old is your PC?
[03:10] <persica> SirBob1701: I just made my .cedega directory a symlink to elsewhere.
[03:10] <SirBob1701> persica: good idea lol
[03:11] <metbsd> it's acer aspire 3680
[03:11] <metbsd> i think it's a couple of year old
[03:11] <lumai> lumit
[03:11] <lumai> lumit
[03:11] <persica> SirBob1701: It worked just fine and allowed me to keep games on another partition that was larger.  game installs are getting huge these days.
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: ok, just make sure you don't download the alternate-i386 iso, as thats a text based installer version of kubuntu, download the standard desktop-i386.iso
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> metbsd: http://ftp.wwc.edu/pub/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[03:12] <yehweh> hello everyone! I restarted my computer and for some reason I get a message saying that GDM cant write to disk or that my hdd is full and takes me back to the login screen. So, I popped in a live cd and tried to mount my hdd. For some reason it refuses to ount. any ideas as to why?
[03:13] <DeFirence> i want to make a script automate the hosting process on warcraft 3, but i need to run this on a linux session that isnt logged in :S any ideas?
[03:13] <goldbond> what is the command line for restart/
[03:13] <goldbond> ?
[03:13] <persica> luzipher: I'm not sure what I can do to help you.  All the issues I've dealt with have been with setting up alsa to work once and mix properly.
[03:13] <DeFirence> shutdown -r now
[03:13] <silvertip257> goldbond:  reboot -f
[03:13] <goldbond> thanks
[03:13] <DeFirence> :O
[03:14] <silvertip257> what DeFirence?  he said reboot
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> goldbond: silvertips instructions will work, but you need to be root... sudo reboot -f
[03:14] <DeFirence> my bad, im new to linux :)
[03:14] <goldbond> thanks i idd
[03:14] <silvertip257> ah np DeFirence
[03:14] <persica> defirence: you'll need to have some sort of window session running then host the warcraft3 process.  It would be tricky to get it to start up without an X session to attach to.  If you want it to just run in the background you could use a vncserver to create a separate X session that is reached over TCP.  Then just run your script in there and it won't impact the monitor.
[03:15] <eexp> if anyone know how to decrypt pdf' password?
[03:15] <silvertip257> yes true IndyGunFreak ... goldbond ... yep gotta be root
[03:15] <zxguitar> need help, how do i find the root to the vlc player, i have ubuntu feisty
[03:15] <DeFirence> lawl persica, im so confused :(
[03:15] <DeFirence> but thanks for ur help
[03:15] <yehweh> nay help folks?
[03:15] <yehweh> any  :D
[03:16] <eexp> if anyone know how to decrypt pdf' password? or has any pdf annotate software?
[03:16] <persica> I'm saying Warcraft has to be somewhere, but if you don't want to have to be logged in at the computer all the time you can use VNC.  Look up VNC servers, or you could start another X session and run from there, e.g. on virtual terminal 8 and leave 7 free for other stuff.
[03:17] <ipx-laptop> Have there been any improvements for wow from either wine or any wow-patch? Ive been feeling a GREAT fps-boost!
[03:17] <DeFirence> hehe, im starting to understand, i know vnc :)
[03:17] <DeFirence> just 1 thing
[03:18] <DeFirence> im hoping to be able to do this in multiple sessions
[03:18] <persica> So you want a lot of warcrafts open and running your script?
[03:18] <DeFirence> that way being able to run more then 1 warcraft server
[03:18] <DeFirence> only 2 or 3
[03:18] <DeFirence> :)
[03:18] <cheeseboy> HOW I EDIT MY KEYBOARD SETTINGS?
[03:18] <cheeseboy> opps caps
[03:18] <DeFirence> basically im making war3 dedicated server :)
[03:18] <goldbond> in verbose mode i get the output "rmdir: removing directory, django", but the directory is not removed even with --ignore-...
[03:18] <goldbond> what can i do?
[03:19] <yehweh> cheeseboy: shortcuts or lang?
[03:19] <persica> Your limit is your ram.  You can run as many window sessions as you like, each being its own separate desktop and the like.  Each could have warcraft open and have a clicker-script running.
[03:19] <cheeseboy> yehweh, shortcuts
[03:19] <cheeseboy> my period key broke
[03:19] <DeFirence> ok, roughly how will i run the window sessions
[03:20] <persica> goldbond you've tried 'rm -rf' as root?  what about lsof | grep <dir> to look for processes that have files in the directory open?
[03:20] <ipx-laptop> goldbond: sudo before?
[03:20] <ShackJack> Hi all - is there a gstreamer plugin that allows playing of asx files in Totem, or can someone suggest a ackage that plays them?
[03:20] <yehweh> cheeseboy: you can do it in gconf > apps ? ,etacity
[03:20] <yehweh> metacity
[03:21] <cotyrothery> i just bought a new stick of ram and placed it in my computer how do i know if it was accepted
[03:21] <persica> defirence: something like 'startx -- :1'
[03:21] <cheeseboy> yehweh, in what?
[03:21] <languid> i have a very strange problem... my cd/dvd burner can read burned and pressed dvd's, but can't mount any kind of cd.  anyone know why this might be?  i can also boot off of a dvd, but not cd's from the bios.
[03:21] <yehweh> gconf-editor
[03:21] <DeFirence> ok, ta for ur help, ill do some research :D
[03:21] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: type cat /proc/meminfo in a terminal...
[03:21] <Littlebob> is there a live cd for ubuntu?
[03:22] <wesolek> yes littlebob
[03:22] <Littlebob> err... i cant find it.
[03:22] <cotyrothery> ShackJack: what do i look for after that
[03:22] <pike_> Littlebob: the default ubuntu cd is the livecd
[03:22] <Ravenndude`> Littlebob,  Its the normal instal disc
[03:22] <yehweh> cheeseboy: or in preferences> keyboard shortcuts
[03:22] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: just look for total memory listed...
[03:22] <mneptok> *-desktop*
[03:22] <sharkface> can someone help me configure CUPS?
[03:22] <cotyrothery> MemTotal:       767036 kB
[03:22] <nj786> does anybody know what avant is and what can you do with it?
[03:22] <sharkface> im completely lost ive been trying to get my printer working for 2 days
[03:23] <Littlebob> :) i was getting that idea from the webpage, just wanted to make sure
[03:23] <Littlebob> thanks
[03:23] <cotyrothery> ShackJack: i just bought a 512 mb of ram stick and i had a 254 mb stick of ram already
[03:23] <Warb1> Can anybody think why I might be getting floating point exceptions when trying to load Liferea and Firefox?
[03:23] <Dave132> 254??
[03:24] <yehweh> when I try to mount my hdd using a live cd I get the following message "special device dev/sda1 does not exist"
[03:24] <arnold-583> can someone help me with an NFS issue?
[03:24] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[03:24] <yehweh> !ask | arnold-583
[03:24] <ubotu> arnold-583: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:24] <cheeseboy> yehweh, how i do it gconf?
[03:24] <pike_> yehweh: what is your mount command?
[03:25] <cotyrothery> ShackJack: MemTotal:       767036 kB
[03:25] <yehweh> did you try the preferences > keyboard shortcuts first?
[03:25] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: O.kaay - is that what you were expecting?
[03:25] <cotyrothery> is that over 700 mb
[03:25] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: SOunds right to me based on what you said...
[03:25] <yehweh> pike_: sudo mount dev/sda1 /media/temp
[03:25] <soyporti> does anyone knows how to install Gyache without Automatix??
[03:25] <Pici> How would I go about downgrading a package using only the shell?
[03:25] <ShackJack> cotyrothery: Yes - 256 + 512 MB :)
[03:26] <cotyrothery> ShackJack: good because after i put in that ram when i started up the computer it made alot of beeping sounds
[03:26] <arnold-583> i am trying to get a mac running os x (client) to mount a shared folder on a pc running ubuntu (server) via nfs, and I think I have the /etc/exports file set up properly, but when I try to mount the folder, I get "mount_nfs: can't access /dir: Permission denied" on the client. Can anyone help?
[03:26] <cheeseboy> yehweh, thats not there
[03:27] <ipx-laptop> arnold-583: sudo?
[03:27] <arnold-583> ipx-laptop: nope
[03:27] <yehweh> cheeseboy: On the top Gnome-Panel ... System>preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:28] <ipx-laptop> arnold-583: then try it :)
[03:28] <arnold-583> ipx-laptop: sorry, i meant nope it doesn't work
[03:28] <cheeseboy> yehweh, i installed from command line its not there
[03:28] <pike_> yehweh: /dev
[03:28] <ipx-laptop> arnold-583: do you got permission to access the folder that youre mouting in?
[03:28] <goldbond> persica: thanks, it worked
[03:28] <arnold-583> ipx-laptop: hold on, i may have found something
[03:29] <yehweh> pike_: damn ... let me try
[03:29] <sharkface> can soemone help me connect to the CIFS host for getting my printer to work?
[03:29] <yehweh> pike_: that was so stupid. Thanks very much
[03:30] <pike_> ytheh np
[03:31] <arnold-583> ipx-laptop: well, the permission issue is the problem i would imagine. The owner of the shared folder is root, but is chmod'd so that anyone should be able to read/write to it
[03:31] <yehweh> pike_: one more thing. I got a msg saying gdm cat write to disk and Im sure the disk is not full. The power died out during updates. Is this a lock issue?
[03:32] <NemesisD> hi all ive got an external drive and for some reason its showing up in panel as not mounted and when i try to mount it it says its probably in a format that cannot be mounted
[03:32] <NemesisD> but its ext3...
[03:32] <yehweh> cheeseboy: type "gconf-editor"
[03:32] <pike_> yehweh: on the livecd? i dont have alot of exp with livecd's im not sure if / is writeable.. maybe someone here can offter better opinion
[03:33] <arnold-583> ipx-laptop: nevermind, i figured it out; thanks for your help
[03:33] <yehweh> pike_: nope not on the live cd, this happened on my full install. Im using the live cd to fix it, but dont know how ;)
[03:33] <ipx-laptop> arcade: ok :) great
[03:33] <ipx-laptop> gn
[03:33] <h3xis> does feisty include the the mac80211 subsystem in the stock kernel?
[03:34] <lo4fer> !dual display
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual display - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <julio> Hi everybody
[03:34] <mdious> Hi julio
[03:35] <julio> does anybody know a good tutorial explaining how i can install ATI driver?
[03:35] <sn0> !ati
[03:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <julio> thank-you all
[03:35] <sn0> julio its quite simple on fiesty, but that link explains how on any version :)
[03:35] <pike_> yehweh: id mount it then make rm -fr /media/sda1/tmp/*   but ive not seen that error before..
[03:35] <lo4fer> so what does the peanut gallery have to day about dual display in ubuntu? is it a pain in the ass or not so bad? i have a single nvidia card/ned monitor setup now that wasn't tough to configure. i would likely get one more of each if i decided to go for it.
[03:35] <RAOF> h3xis: Yes, I belive so.
[03:36] <julio> fiesty = 7.04??
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> julio, yes
[03:36] <NemesisD> anyone? why would an external ext3 volume show up as not mounted and refuse to mount from panel?
[03:36] <h3xis> RAOF how positive are you? :p
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> lo4fer, its not a pain
[03:36] <pike_> lo4fer: if ya got a dvi and vga in the nvidia you might have two displays already
[03:36] <Dave132> julio:http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:36] <julio> It's the mine, how can i still on fiesty sn0?
[03:36] <newbie_> hi, ive deleted /etc/dovecot by mistake, and i tried to re-install dovecot by apt-get but still the folder doesnt created. how to restore it?
[03:36] <lo4fer> no kidding pike? this is sounding better and better already.
[03:36] <pike_> NemesisD: not enough power maybe?
[03:36] <sn0> julio see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:37] <julio> thank-you
[03:37] <sn0> np
[03:37] <yehweh> pike_: thanks, ill try that and report back
[03:37] <pike_> NemesisD: my external enclosures sometimes need the secon pigtail usb to be plugged in. sometimes not
[03:38] <RAOF> h3xis: Pretty positive.  Why, what are you after?
[03:38] <student> guys i'm really worried
[03:39] <h3xis> RAOF well i'm helping a guy install the intel 4965 native linux drivers and he has no idea what he's doing and since i don't use ubuntu i'm not sure if it includes the 80211 subsys by default since it obviously requires it
[03:39] <student> i have a G4 powermac
[03:39] <cafuego> it's okay, we all die eventually
[03:39] <student> i had ubuntu running on it
[03:39] <lo4fer> heck it looks like that's two DVI outputs in back. sweet. would there be any practical benefit to running two gpu's for dual display? i suppose i should give it a go with the one and see how things play out, huh.
[03:39] <student> had updated all the way to edgy
[03:39] <student> then tried to update to feisty but realized that there was no feisty update for powerpc.
[03:39] <student> now i'm trying to reinstall
[03:40] <h3xis> RAOF i'll see if i can get him to run modprobe mac80211 the next time i talk to him but i just wanted to check here first. if you say it's there that's good enough for me
[03:40] <student> i cant reinstall....it wont install the base system....tried dapper...badger...edgy...also tried the alternate cds
[03:40] <RAOF> h3xis: Yes, I'm pretty sure it includes that subsystem by default.  I should really try the experimental 3945 drivers sometime :)
[03:40] <student> at the base system install it gives an error that the file might be curroput
[03:40] <student> but i'm very sure that it is not
[03:40] <h3xis> RAOF why the experimental ones? i'm using ipw3945 atm
[03:40] <student> can anyone help me please?
[03:41] <shiester_miester> student, are you the one i was talking to yesterday?
[03:41] <yehweh> cheeseboy: did it work? Im going to restart my comp. If you want me to hold on for a lil bit Ill wait
[03:41] <student> shiester_miester: i dont think so
[03:41] <RAOF> h3xis: Because the experimental ones also use the softmac layer.  Also, I'm running gutsy, so I might as well try other experimental stuff :)
[03:41] <shiester_miester> oh ok...there must have been a different person named "student"
[03:41] <h3xis> RAOF oh right.
[03:41] <student> shiester_miester: can u help me?
[03:41] <shiester_miester> maybe
[03:41] <cheeseboy> yehweh, what work i missed it
[03:42] <h3xis> RAOF any advantage?
[03:42] <lmosher> I just changed my main linux partition (I copied it) from /dev/sda3 to /dev/sda1. of course grub isn't happy and won't load, what do I need to do to repair grub? I'm bottin ginto the liveCD at this time.
[03:42] <shiester_miester> RAOF, how is gutsy anyway?
[03:42] <pike_> student: run the verify disk thing at bootup. as a rule 1) burn the iso at the slowest speed  2) verify the image beforehand and md5sum the disk after. of course i never do 2)
[03:42] <Pelo> student, isn't your edgy instal working anymore ?
[03:42] <yehweh> cheeseboy: On the top Gnome-Panel ... System>preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> How do i install Wine?
[03:42] <fivetwentysix> on 64 bit?
[03:42] <shiester_miester> pike_, thats ok, i never do either :P
[03:42] <cheeseboy> yehweh, its not there
[03:42] <Music_Shuffle> pike_, oh good, I hoped I wasn't the only one to play loose with that rule :P
[03:42] <cheeseboy> i installed from scratch
[03:43] <yehweh> cheeseboy: ok, open gconf-editor
[03:43] <shiester_miester> if it burned wrong, you'll find out soon enough anyway :P
[03:43] <Pelo> fivetwentysix, in www.winehq.org   check the download section , the ubuntu page,  there is a link for the 64 bit versions on the page
[03:43] <student> pike_: i verified the disk at bootup and it doesnt verify it...it says somethign is wrong...i cant remember what...but i used those discs earlier...i even burned those discs on a mac...and one of those discs was an orginal badger disc
[03:43] <cheeseboy> yehweh, then what?
[03:43] <student> pike_: can you tell me how i can burn a ubuntu powerpc cd on a PC properly and check if it is fine?
[03:43] <yehweh> cheeseboy: wait a sec, do you want to add stuff to your menus?
[03:44] <cheeseboy> no
[03:44] <shiester_miester> student, you can check it using a little program called "fsum"
[03:44] <cheeseboy> i just want a period key
[03:44] <pike_> student: same process really. i dont have any powerpc specific exp
[03:44] <pike_> are macs still hfs?
[03:44] <student> shiester_miester: right now i'm on a dell PC....i know it sounds stupid but can you walk me through the burning the cd and checking process please?
[03:44] <pike_> lol nm
[03:44] <yehweh> cheeseboy: ok then, after that click on apps>metacity
[03:44] <RAOF> h3xis: No, not really.  Just experimental, which translates to kinda cool :)
[03:45] <cheeseboy> yehweh, ok
[03:45] <h3xis> RAOF ah right
[03:45] <compuniversal> I NEED HELP WITH ATI RADEON 9250 DRIVERS
[03:45] <shadowarts> does anyone know why the 'madwifi' driver is considered restricted?
[03:45] <student> pike_: i cant remember the last time i burned an ISO image on a cd before i had ubuntu...it was so much easier on ubuntu...can someone please help me walkthough burning one and checking if it is alright?
[03:45] <h3xis> RAOF as long as theyre stable, allow monitor mode, i'm fine
[03:45] <yehweh> in keybinding command type in the action/script or app name you want
[03:45] <shadowarts> the code seems to be licesensed under the BSD or at your option the GPL
[03:45] <lmosher> Grub gives error 22 after I moved a partition. How do I repair?
[03:46] <RAOF> shiester_miester: Pretty good.  New, super-eyecandy compiz, gnome 2.19 includes some cool stuff (like being able to change the master key on the gnome-keyring).
[03:46] <pike_> student: on windows?
[03:46] <yehweh> cheeseboy: in keybinding command type in the action/script or app name you want
[03:46] <pike_> student: or mac?
[03:46] <mdious> student:  can you just 'right click' and select burn...don't remember exactly but I think if you drag the iso onto a blank cd it comes up saying that this is an iso do you want to etc etc...sorry if this is wrong
[03:46] <student> pike_: on windows..
[03:46] <cheeseboy> yehweh, keybindinf?
[03:46] <RAOF> shadowarts: They're probable restricted in the same way the the ipw3945 drivers are restricted: the code is free, but you need a non-free binary firmware blob to actually do anything with them.
[03:46] <cheeseboy> yehweh, keybinding* its not there?
[03:46] <NemesisD> pike_, ok so this drive has sufficient power
[03:46] <NemesisD> pike_, what else should i try now
[03:47] <yehweh> cheeseboy: its keybinding_command
[03:47] <cheeseboy> yehweh, theres nothing about key in there
[03:47] <shadowarts> RAOF, does ubuntu package the firmware with the distro then?
[03:47] <nickrud> lmosher, you boot into a live cd, mount the new partition rw, chroot into it, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the new partition, then run grub-install
[03:48] <pike_> student: id get one of those burner programs from downloads.com i guess. its been so long im not sure of that site anymore but any of em aught to do. the md5sum thing isnt a big deal but make sure you burn at slowest speed
[03:48] <pike_> NemesisD: you unplug replug it and dmesg|tail  says sda or sdb or whatever?
[03:49] <lmosher> nickrud, thanks
[03:49] <nadilson> oi
[03:49] <nadilson> boa note
[03:49] <fivetwentysix> Holy crap this is hillarious
[03:49] <nadilson> boa noite
[03:49] <nadilson> alguem ai?
[03:49] <fivetwentysix> I'm running windows applications in wine lol
[03:49] <yehweh> cheeseboy: are you in metacity?
[03:50] <nickrud> lmosher, be sure you're editing the menu.lst from inside the chroot, and run grub-install inside the chroot
[03:50] <NemesisD> pike_, im helping someone do this over the phone and he just hung up because hes going to try some things, ill have him try that when those attempts fail
[03:50] <lmosher> nickrud, ok thanks :0
[03:52] <PanzerMKZ> I would like to put DMA on my cd roms. But when I go to /etc/hdparm.conf all there is a commented out sample file
[03:53] <Nutubuntu> Hello Flannel, wols_ - Got the new (RAID1) box working, that I was having so much trouble with. Wanted to say thanks
[03:53] <PanzerMKZ> should this be so or should I have settings for the current two roms?
[03:54] <Kpr> Hey. I'm having a problem with my sound. I had it earlier, now it's gone again. My sound IS on alsa, I checked alsamixer. Nothing's muted, I think. Any ideas, anyone? (Using Kubuntu, btw)
[03:54] <nickrud> PanzerMKZ, what does hdparm -i /dev/<cdrom> say?
[03:54] <PanzerMKZ> there are a few settings
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> at this moment I am not in front of that machine
[03:55] <cheeseboy> yehweh, yes
[03:55] <lmosher> nickrud, I've got my liveCD running and the disk mounted on /mnt/sda1, but how does chroot work to edit grub.conf?
[03:55] <lamalex> Kpr: did you check speaker connections
[03:55] <yehweh> cheeseboy: what do you see in the leftahnd side pane?
[03:56] <yehweh> cheeseboy: left hand
[03:56] <Kpr> Yes
[03:56] <bulmer> whats with the Master versus "Cable Select" jumper on  a hard drive, I installed ubuntu when it was a master and it booted okay, just for kicks tried it as cable select since it is the only drive, but it fails to boot..what gives?
[03:56] <Kpr> Nothing wrong with speakers
[03:56] <cheeseboy> yehweh, under metacity?
[03:56] <intelikey> can anyone illuminate this for me ?    "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  ???    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )
[03:56] <sharkface> can someone help me with my printer
[03:56] <yehweh> cheeseboy: yep
[03:56] <nickrud> PanzerMKZ, the asterisk tells you what mode you're in.  If it's not already in dma mode, you can add edit that file to enable dma. There're samples in there
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> yea that is what I was wondering
[03:56] <cheeseboy> yehweh, general notification-dameon
[03:56] <SirBob1701> trying to install battlefield2 on cedega and it hangs on the game spy install
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> should I just put stuff in there
[03:57] <PanzerMKZ> or should the mode that the cdrom is in be there already
[03:57] <C0_31_JKT> Hello... I am amin from Jakarta - Indonesia
[03:57] <SirBob1701> anyone have any idea/
[03:57] <nickrud> lmosher, what you'd do is open a terminal, then   do sudo chroot /path/to/partition . If you do an ls, you'll find you're working inside your hard drive ubuntu install. Then nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <C0_31_JKT> I am newbie on linux
[03:57] <Nutubuntu> bulmer: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCS-c.html
[03:58] <yehweh> cheeseboy: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[03:58] <theblackknight> C0_31_JKT, lots of us are noobs!
[03:58] <pike_> C0_31_JKT: welcome
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> ok
[03:58] <nickrud> PanzerMKZ, no, you'd need to add it. hdparm isn't needed too often anymore by most people
[03:58] <lmosher> nickrud, Oh.. lol ok so it changes the root directory.. chroot.. hehe ok makes sense :)
[03:58] <cheeseboy> yehweh, fiesty
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> ok I got you.
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> thanks
[03:58] <yehweh> cheeseboy: that is weird.
[03:58] <lmosher> nickrud, and for the grub-install... is it just literally "grub-install" or do I give it parameters?
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> I guess then it will be something like /dev/cdrom dma= on
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> and that is it
[03:59] <cheeseboy> yehweh, i installed from command line
[03:59] <yehweh> cheeseboy: sorry buddy I dont know how to fix it
[03:59] <xanne> !xorg
[03:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:59] <Dekkard> how do i get gdm to start right after boot?
[04:00] <nickrud> lmosher, grub-install /dev/hda  (for me, make sure for you)
[04:00] <bulmer> Nutubuntu: have you experience such difficulties?
[04:00] <RAOF> Dekkard: It should do it already.
[04:00] <lunitus> is there an easy way to restart x while you're logged in?
[04:00] <rodrigomgm> Hi, could someone please tell me the difference between the alternate version and the Desktop version?
[04:00] <Dekkard> RAOF:  yeah.. but i switched to kdm somehow.. and now i cant get it to start without loging in to the console
[04:00] <theblackknight> rodrigomgm, alternate version is for servers i.e. 64 bit computer
[04:00] <lmosher> nickrud: Uh oh.. grub-install /dev/sda returns: Not found or not a block device... It is supposed to be mounted and im chrooted into /mnt/sda, which is where /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[04:00] <PanzerMKZ> rodrigomgm: the alt install is text based
[04:00] <bruenig> rodrigomgm, alternate version is text install, desktop version is a live cd with an optional graphical install
[04:01] <Nutubuntu> I'd like to be able to choose between KDE and Gnome - currently running K - do I simply install ubuntu-desktop or is there more that needs to be done to be able to choose a Gnome session?
[04:01] <lamalex> that's all
[04:01] <intelikey> Dekkard sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm -plow
[04:01] <lmosher> nickrud, Oh. duh. because /dev/sda only exists out of the chroot. are you sure I'm supposed to be in it? :)
[04:01] <Music_Shuffle> Nutubuntu, if you have it installed, you should be able to select which you want at the login sreen :)
[04:01] <RAOF> Dekkard: Hm.  You should be able to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and select "gdm" as your login manager, I think.  As long as it's still installed :)
[04:01] <C0_31_JKT> anyone have experience trouble when running gxine? it always restart just likethat
[04:01] <Bassetts> how can I import my private key? I lost it but it is on my launchpad
[04:01] <Nutubuntu> bulmer: no, no difficulties here. I gave you the link b/c it's a lot to explain, and hardware, really, not ubuntu
[04:01] <rodrigomgm> thanks heaps!!!!!!!!!
[04:02] <lamalex> bassetts: your private key should not be anywhere public, your public key is probably on launchpad
[04:02] <C0_31_JKT> anyone have experience trouble when running gxine? it always restart just likethat
[04:02] <RAOF> Bassetts: Your GPG private key is surely not on launchpad, right?  It'd be your public key?
[04:02] <nickrud> lmosher, yes, you need to be in it. I've done this before.
[04:02] <nickrud> lmosher, but never had that problem
[04:02] <ali1234> lmosher: you need to bind /dev/ and /proc/ inside the chroot
[04:02] <Nutubuntu> Music_Shuffle: yes, understood, and thanks - just want to be sure that installing ubuntu-desktop will get me Gnome. This is a clean Kubuntu install, and I figured if I could get this far I'd install Gnome too
[04:02] <bulmer> Nutubuntu: well thanks, a better insight is from who had experience similar difficulties
[04:02] <nickrud> ali1234, thanks
[04:02] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: if you've lost your private key, best make a new one
[04:02] <Bassetts> lamalex, RAOF; in my control panel it shows my my private key I am sure
[04:02] <lmosher> ali1234: how?
[04:02] <Music_Shuffle> Nutubuntu, yep :D
[04:02] <nickrud> been a while ;)
[04:02] <NemesisD> pike_, are you still there?
[04:02] <Nutubuntu> Music_Shuffle: t/y again
[04:03] <ali1234> lmosher: *outside* of the chroot: mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/sda/dev
[04:03] <Music_Shuffle> Anytime.  Best of luck :)
[04:03] <intelikey> can anyone illuminate this for me ?    "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  ???    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )
[04:03] <ali1234> lmosher and the same for proc
[04:03] <Nutubuntu> bulmer: sorry, then. I've had my difficulties, but master vs. cs was not one. I'd read the link ... if it was me.
[04:03] <pike_> NemesisD: yeah
[04:03] <RAOF> Bassetts: No, that'd be your public key.  If you're talking about something like https://launchpad.net/~raof/ , it's going to be the KeyID of your public key.
[04:03] <Nutubuntu> intelikey: /dev/root?
[04:03] <lamalex> bassetts: if your private key is displayed on launchpad, then you need to revoke it right away and make a new one
[04:03] <lamalex> the private key is for you only and should be kept in a safe place
[04:03] <goldbond> i am trying to symbolically link using:  sudo ln -s /home/project/.django/django /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django . and the output is ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/django' to `/home/walsh/.django/django': File exists. but the link is broken
[04:04] <intelikey> Nutubuntu yeah.
[04:04] <Nutubuntu> intelikey: root isn't a disk device
[04:04] <goldbond> nm walsh and project
[04:04] <Bassetts> RAOF, at the side it list my public key, but in my control panel under Update OpenPGP keys it shows the key with a longer number
[04:04] <marltu> hello again. I have XMMS player and volume control in XMMS doesn't work
[04:04] <goldbond> they are meant to be the same
[04:04] <intelikey> Nutubuntu that's within the initrd.img      and you don't mount devices you mount file systems
[04:04] <lmosher> ali1234, nickrud: Ok better, but now it's saying "/dev/sda3: not found", which is OK, /dev/sda3 doesn't exist anymore. What did I forget to change?
[04:04] <DeFirence> how can i check how much ram a program is using?
[04:05] <pike_> DeFirence: top is the standard answer
[04:05] <Bassetts> Frogzoo, how do I get rid of my old one and make a new one?
[04:05] <Warbo> marltu: Have you tried going into the preferences and changing whether it changes PCM (wave) or master?
[04:05] <ali1234> lmosher: probably fstab?
[04:05] <bruenig> goldbond, make sure you aren't doing it backwards
[04:05] <RAOF> Bassetts: Are you talking about something like this?  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x2F306651&op=index - because that's my *public* key (notice the "pub" at the left)
[04:05] <lmosher> ali1234: Ohhhhh yes. hah.
[04:05] <DeFirence> top?
[04:05] <marltu> Warbo, will try
[04:05] <Nutubuntu> intelikey: yes ... um, you mount fs on devices ... that is, you'd mount / on /dev/hda1, for example
[04:05] <pike_> DeFirence: open a terminal and type 'top'
[04:05] <ali1234> lmosher: or grub.conf
[04:05] <rustalot> If I have a table in HTML format (i.e. <tr> <td> , etc..), how to I convert that to a .csv?
[04:05] <DeFirence> kk, ta ;)
[04:05] <Bassetts> RAOF, ok I got confused
[04:05] <mikeypizano> hey bassetts
[04:05] <Nutubuntu> Maybe I'm just too tired to understand you. My bad :/
[04:06] <Bassetts> mikeypizano, hey
[04:06] <tyoc> Hi there people, Im trying to enable qAllowDeactivateGrabsq on xorg.conf, but Xorg.0.log still saying (WW) Ignoring unrecognized extension "qAllowDeactivateGrabsq"
[04:06] <goldbond> bruenig: the files are located at the former. is that right?
[04:06] <tyoc> (WW) Ignoring unrecognized extension "qAllowClosedownGrabsq"
[04:06] <intelikey> Nutubuntu no   first your example is backwards.  you mount the fs on /
[04:06] <lmosher> ali1234: I changed all the entries of grub.conf i.e. root hd(0,2) to root hd(0,0). Is there another place in grub.conf to change it?
[04:06] <bruenig> goldbond, right, real file then link
[04:06] <lmosher> ali1234, Also in the fstab, my entries ar all UUID=blahblahblah. Can I just change the appropriate one to /dev/sda1 from the UUID and it will be OK?
[04:06] <Nutubuntu> ./nick sdrawkcabutnubutuN
[04:06] <ali1234> lmosher: possibly a setup() line?
[04:06] <tyoc> I mean I whant to get back the mice and kb control when Im debugin an app that has grabbed the input
[04:06] <goldbond> bruenig: what else could be wrong?
[04:06] <intelikey> Nutubuntu the initrd.img by default uses /dev/root  for the root fs.
[04:06] <Nutubuntu> I think I'm too tired to think ... bbl, after some sleep mebbe :)
[04:07] <ali1234> lmosher: yes i think so, if you do it properly
[04:07] <goldbond> bruenig: when i ls the directory the link appears red on black
[04:07] <bruenig> goldbond, well you wouldn't be able to do that command without being root
[04:07] <Nutubuntu> be well intelikey; sry for confusion
[04:07] <intelikey> ok anyone else got thoughts on this ?    "ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/root is mounted."  ???    (full startup text @ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37562 )
[04:07] <charlie__> i need help please. I want to upgrade to the newest flash beta and it says to delete the flash plugins in /home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins, but that folder doesn't exist! how can i upgrade?
[04:08] <goldbond> bruenig: yeah i sudo. can i delete the link and try again? or does repeating the command replace it?
[04:08] <bruenig> goldbond, you would need to do ln -sf to replace
[04:08] <Warbo> charlie2: There are 2 places where Flash can be installed
[04:08] <kravlin> hey. Im working on setting up grub and trying to figure out the root line. Linux says the hard drive is hdb1. How do I change that to hd0 etc?
[04:08] <charlie2> Warbo, how do I find which one it is installed and how do I upgrade to beta?
[04:08] <Warbo> charlie2: If you installed them yourself manually then they will be in that folder
[04:09] <nickrud> kravlin, hd(1,0)  (counting from 0 for each)
[04:09] <Warbo> charlie2: If you installed the package system-wide then they will be in the folder /usr/lib
[04:09] <charlie2> Warbo, I installed a distro called "Linux Mint" which is based on Ubuntu but comes preinstalled with flash
[04:09] <intelikey> anyone ?
[04:09] <lmosher> ali1234: hmm. I did "more /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep sda3" and it finds nothing. Same with fstab, yet I still get "sda3: not found" when I run grub-install. What am I missing?
[04:09] <pike_> charlie2: .mozilla should exist if there isnt a .plugins anywhere under that id check /usr/lib/mozilla  <-- i forget actual location.
[04:09] <Warbo> charlie2: (probably /usr/lib/firefox/plugins)
[04:09] <NemesisD> pike_, we rebooted and now the usb drive isn't even auto mounting :/
[04:09] <kravlin> nickrud: i know about that. However i have two disks and i need to figure out where my windows partition is for GRUB.
[04:10] <Warbo> charlie2: First of all check if you have a package of it installed, since then removing it is easier
[04:10] <bruenig> it used to be that flashplugin was installed in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree or something like that and linked over
[04:10] <nickrud> kravlin, sudo fdisk -l
[04:10] <pike_> lmosher: you can grep sda /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:10] <charlie2> Warbo, there are two folders in /usr/lib, one is called "mozilla-firefox" and one is called "firefox" and they both have a plugins folder with the flash plugin inside, which one is the real one?
[04:10] <bruenig> charlie2, they are likely both links
[04:10] <Warbo> charlie2: Can you open up the Synaptic Package Manager? (I know Mint uses its own menu which I haven't used)
[04:10] <Tremitos> hey
[04:10] <ali1234> lmosher: grub-install tries to be clever, but it is just a pain. just install grub manually
[04:10] <kravlin> that returns info in hdb2
[04:10] <charlie2> yes, i can open synaptic package monitor, it has all the menu options ubuntu has, hold on
[04:11] <goldbond> bruenig: thanks, that worked
[04:11] <pike_> NemesisD: ive never used auto mount. my entire mount process is like 1) plug it in 2) dmesg| tail  3) depending on if sda or sdb or whatever showed up sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/directory
[04:11] <Warbo> charlie2: OK, search for "flash" in there and see which ones have a green box next to them
[04:11] <Bassetts> Launchpad wont import my key even though it is on the keyserver
[04:12] <NemesisD> pike_, do you have to specify filesys or do that -o loop thing?
[04:12] <pike_> NemesisD: that is for loopback for iso mounting and such. it depends on the file system. is it ntfs or fat or ext3 or what?
[04:12] <Kprofthreat> Having difficulties with my sound on Kubuntu. I just did a fresh install to Feisty and I get no sound. Nothing's muted. Checked alsamixer already and Kmix is set with ALSA. I AM using a soundcard, not onboard, if that makes a difference.
[04:13] <charlie2> warbo, i searched for flash and these are the ones in green: flashplayer-nonfree, flashplayer-nonfree, konqueror, libswfdec0.3. should i uninstall all of those?
[04:13] <RAOF> Bassetts: But if you don't have the corresponding private key any more, that's useless, right?
[04:13] <kravlin> nickrud: It does not return where the NTFS partition is.
[04:13] <Bassetts> RAOF, I am uploading a new key
[04:13] <NemesisD> pike_, ext3
[04:13] <Warbo> charlie2: I would uninstall the flashplayer-nonfree (that is the Adobe one)
[04:13] <pike_> NemesisD: a regular usb stick is fat32 so a simple sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/something  will work. that will mean you need sudo to access it though
[04:14] <Warbo> charlie2: Then you should be able to install a newer one
[04:14] <pike_> NemesisD: oh then just sudo mount you dont need any options
[04:14] <charlie2> Warbo, for some reason there are two in the list with the exact same name, should  i uninstall both?
[04:14] <NemesisD> ok cool
[04:14] <nickrud> kravlin, fdisk -l should list every partition on all fixed drives; one of them should be marked as ntfs or vfat on the right
[04:14] <Warbo> charlie2: Yes
[04:14] <charlie2> Warbo, thanks alot, just got Linux Free/Ubuntu yesterday so i'm a total n00b to all this =)
[04:14] <pike_> NemesisD: bear in mind as ext3 it has permissions intact.
[04:15] <Warbo> charlie2: No prob
[04:15] <kravlin> nickrud: i started up GParted. That says its hdb1
[04:15] <charlie2> Woops i mean "Linux Mint" not "Linux Free" warbo
[04:15] <Alysum> Im getting tired of ubuntu's Xorg which starts to use more then 10% CPU after a couple of hours, have tried lots of different xorg.conf settings and different drivers for my ati R9550 any suggestions ?
[04:15] <nickrud> kravlin, then it would be hd(1,0)
[04:15] <kravlin> nickrud: so i take it its (hd1,0)
[04:15] <ali1234> lmosher: how exactly did you repartition? i mean which partitions did you move?
[04:15] <charlie2> warbo, should i click "mark for complete removal" or "mark for removal" ?
[04:15] <pike_> Alysum: xorg 7 is still pretty new.. shouldnt do that though
[04:15] <Warbo> charlie2: I'd go with just removal
[04:15] <nickrud> erm, kravlin :)
[04:16] <lmosher> ali1234: It was complicated. In short I deleted 2 partitions, copied /dev/sda3, then deleted the original and then made the new /dev/sda1 bigger. All because I wanted sda3 to the front of the disk (so I could grow it a bit)
[04:16] <Kprofthreat> Having difficulties with my sound on Kubuntu. I just did a fresh install to Feisty and I get no sound. Nothing's muted. Checked alsamixer already and Kmix is set with ALSA. I AM using a soundcard, not onboard, if that makes a difference.
[04:16] <Alysum> pike_: well I has always on my ATI OR NVIDIA card
[04:16] <kravlin> nickrud: yeah... That's what it says in my GRUB startup. But it just displays a bunch of random characters.
[04:16] <ali1234> lmosher: so did you have a separate partition for /boot or anything fancy like that?
[04:16] <charlie2> Warbo: what is the easiest way to set up the newest flash beta
[04:17] <pike_> Kprofthreat: can ya 'hohup sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' ?
[04:17] <lmosher> ali1234: nope, nothing like that. all that was linux before was /dev/sda3 as / and /dev/sda4 as swap
[04:17] <Warbo> charlie2: Can you give me a link to the webpage you were on?
[04:17] <lmosher> ali1234: sda1 and sda2 were windows. I plan to re-make them on the other side (and a bit smaller) once this is working
[04:17] <Warbo> charlie2: (which said about removing the .mozilla thing)?
[04:17] <Kprofthreat> pike_: ev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:17] <Kprofthreat> *Dev
[04:18] <charlie2> Warbo: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[04:18] <atman> how can i pass a file from the host os (ubuntu) to a client os (winxp) in vmware?
[04:18] <pike_> Kprofthreat: i just wanted you to blast static out of the speakers :)
[04:18] <NeoGeo64> TaJMoX, ?
[04:19] <charlie2> Warbo: i want to download the beta at: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html and it is a .tar.gz
[04:19] <kravlin> nickrud: The whole problem may have been that i had the ( right before the hd instead of next to the 1.
[04:19] <Kprofthreat> -.-
[04:19] <nickrud> kravlin, no, you wer right, that's what the erm was ;)
[04:19] <pike_> Kprofthreat: try the sound troubleshooting link i think it has a script too. ask crimsun if you see him hes the man on sound issues
[04:19] <pike_> !sound | Kprofthreat
[04:19] <ubotu> Kprofthreat: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:19] <Warbo> charlie2: Yeah, get the tar.gz one http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer9_update/flashplayer9_install_linux_061107.tar.gz
[04:19] <ali1234> lmosher: okay... first, in grub.conf, check for any line containing (hd0,2) and change it to (hd0,0)
[04:20] <TheCougar> any way to quickly tell if my system has bluetooth?
[04:20] <kravlin> nickrud: well shit. That means it doesn't work right.
[04:20] <lmosher> ali1234: yep did that. I also searched for "UUID" and if it matched my old /dev/sda3 I changed it to /dev/sda2
[04:20] <lmosher> errr /dev/sda1, lol
[04:20] <charlie2> then just run ./flashplayer_installer warbo?
[04:20] <ali1234> lmosher: in grub.conf?
[04:20] <lmosher> ali1234: yes
[04:21] <lmosher> ali1234: no
[04:21] <nickrud> does your grub stanza look similar to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26506/ ?
[04:21] <Warbo> charlie2: You'll need to run "sudo ./flashplayer_installer" to install it system-wide
[04:21] <lmosher> ali1234: crap. hang on :0
[04:21] <quio> ubuntu!
[04:21] <ali1234> lmosher: grub does not use /dev/sda1 etc - instead you must put (hd0,0) - *unless* it's a kernel config line
[04:21] <kravlin> nickrud: all but the save default
[04:21] <quio> #ubuntu!
[04:21] <lmosher> ali1234: yes it was the kernel config line, but where is grub.conf? I was editing menu.lst
[04:22] <ali1234> lmosher: they are the same file... actually you might not have grub.conf
[04:22] <Bdonohue> Oh. Lord.
[04:22] <ali1234> lmosher: if you do it's normally a symlink
[04:22] <nickrud> kravlin, with all this grub garbage going on, it makes me reconsider going back to lilo
[04:22] <Warbo> Anyone know why Liferea and Firefox don't start (saying floating point exception) and Epiphany crashes loads when loading pages? Only happened this past couple of hours. I've rebooted a few times since too, still happening
[04:22] <glLoadIdentity> hi all, i am using 6.10 and have a problem with my usb webcam.. actually, i want to use it as a mic(has builtin mic). i have 2 soundcards on the machine.. i am not able to record any sound from my usb mic.. any clues ?
[04:23] <kravlin> nickrud: well if i could make it work. I would.
[04:23] <lmosher> ali1234: Ok, in that case yes, i changed all sda(0,2) to sda(0,0) and I changed all "kenel /boot/vmlinuz.... root=UUID=blah" to "kernel /boot/blah... root=/dev/sda1..."
[04:23] <ctothej> what is a .so.0d file?
[04:23] <charlie2> warbo, it says to enter the installation path of the browser, should i use /usr/lib/mozilla, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, or /usr/lib/firefox?
[04:23] <ctothej> same as a .so?
[04:23] <devilsreject> hello all
[04:23] <Warbo> charlie2: I'd use /usr/lib/firefox
[04:24] <ali1234> lmosher: okay then, next run grub and at the prompt: root (hd0,0) <enter> setup (hd0) <enter>
[04:24] <charlie2> ok
[04:24] <Warbo> charlie2: (looks like one of them is probably just a link to the other anyway)
[04:24] <devilsreject> quick question -- i am trying to record mp3 playback with mic playback but the mp3 playback is recording way low i've played with  the diff mixers is there an easy way to fix this?>
[04:24] <kravlin> nickrud: I almost have it running. It just displays a bunch of random non-latin characters when i try to make it work.
[04:24] <jungoh> can someone help out, I just installed Feisty x86, and now my sound is not working. It was working fine on the amd64 ver. but i had trouble doing anything else. I get this error: gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open resource for writing.
[04:24] <lmosher> ali1234: ok works fine
[04:25] <lmosher> ali1234: Ok let's see if that worked. yay
[04:25] <ali1234> lmosher: then reboot
[04:25] <charlie2> ok, warbo, thanks, i just did about:plugins in firefox and it says i installed Flash 9.0 r60 beta, so it should work now (the old flash player 7 crashed constantly)
[04:25] <Warbo> charlie2: You're welcome :)
[04:25] <kravlin> nickrud: It lets me go to the menu and choose windows as an option.
[04:25] <nickrud> kravlin, I've no clue about that, really. My fear is that there's something wrong with the windows boot, especially if all else works, you're using what sudo fdisk -l says is the right partition, etc.
[04:26] <lmosher> ali1234: Ok it's rebooting. Hopefully this works
[04:26] <charlie2> eh crap. i take it flash player for linux _sucks_?
[04:26] <ali1234> lmosher: if it doesnt work, but you can get a grub prompt, then the problem is in your menu.lst
[04:26] <lmosher> ali1234: it works :)
[04:26] <kravlin> nickrud: sudo fdisk doesn't show anything. I used gpart instead
[04:26] <Warbo> charlie2: Not much more than it does for WIndows
[04:27] <charlie2> i never had problems on windows, but it crashes constantly in ubuntu/firefox on youtube =(
[04:27] <lmosher> ali1234: so far... but I get an ubutnu logo, so that means it should be doing OK. In about 10 seconds I'll know. If the fstab is OK, is there anything else strange I can expect?
[04:27] <devilsreject> my pcm outpath is set to mute how do i change this
[04:27] <incorperated> hello
[04:27] <incorperated> can someone help me with the truereality emulator
[04:27] <incorperated> i was here earlier
[04:28] <marltu> hello. I need to edit for example xorg.conf. How do I open xorg.conf with gnome graphical editor with root permissions?
[04:28] <ali1234> lmosher: if fstab is wrong, it will probably die half way through booting, and give you a single user login of something
[04:28] <marltu> without going into terminal and etc.
[04:28] <Warbo> charlie2: Well I haven't had many problems with it so I can't tell (I have got a crazy 32bit-inside-64bit setup too). It does seem to crash a bit though
[04:28] <nickrud> marltu, gksudo gedit (you'd need to go into the terminal to start it)
[04:28] <lmosher> ali1234: yeah my fstab is kinda simple now, just sda1, sda4 (swap) and cdrom, so works great
[04:28] <dawn_chorus> marltu, alt-f2: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <jungoh> can someone help out, I just installed Feisty x86, and now my sound is not working. It was working fine on the amd64 ver. but i had trouble doing anything else. When I press 'Test' for my drivers in sound preferences I get this error: gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open resource for writing.
[04:29] <charlie2> everytime i'm watching a youtube video and click a link the whole browser crashes, what's up with that? it did it on the old version too
[04:29] <devilsreject> hola?
[04:29] <incorperated> can someone help me with the emulator
[04:29] <devilsreject> i dont think theres anybody in here incorperated :(
[04:29] <devilsreject> alls i see is questions :0P
[04:29] <darklard> !bot
[04:29] <Warbo> charlie2: You COULD try using Konqueror, since that runs the plugin as a seperate program, then draws the output of that program into the webpage. This means that if the plugin crashes, the browser doesn't (although I could only get Flash working in Konqueror by using Gnash, not Adobe's one, but it is possible)
[04:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:29] <marltu> can I reload xorg.conf without closing apps?
[04:29] <incorperated> ok
[04:29] <ali1234> incorperated: what's wrong with it?
[04:30] <devilsreject> nevermind these popele
[04:30] <dawn_chorus> marltu, can't.
[04:30] <devilsreject> theres people rather
[04:30] <marltu> dammit
[04:30] <marltu> ;)
[04:30] <incorperated> i have to compile it and im alittle new with doing that and i dont know how
[04:30] <marltu> ok, bye
[04:30] <lmosher> ali1234: Thanks a lot for your help, saved me a ton of time googling, or I likely would have ended up reinstalling (it's a fast install anyway :)
[04:30] <charlie2> what's gnash, a third party flash player? if i could get another flash player that would work in firefox without crashing constantly that'd be gread
[04:30] <Warbo> charlie2: Sorry, my skillz are running out in this area
[04:30] <ali1234> incorperated: first get a compiler: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:31] <devilsreject> it wont let me take the mute of pcm out in aslamixergui or gnome alsa mixer
[04:31] <devilsreject> any others i couldn't find any i just want to unmute the friggin pcm out
[04:31] <Warbo> charlie2: Yes, Gnash is a third party player. A few days ago they released a version with video support (so it won't be available as a package yet), and then there is also SWFDec which recently got video support (don't know if that version is packaged yet though)
[04:32] <PyChild> Hello, stupid question, how can I tell firefox to download media instead of opening it in the same window?
[04:32] <charlie2> Warbo, how do I check if SWFDec is packaged?
[04:32] <incorperated> after that what do i do then
[04:32] <Driven10> PyChild: right click > save target as?
[04:32] <kravlin> nickrud: So what do you know about the MBR. Is it stored on a disk to disk basis or is it stored somewhere else?
[04:32] <NeoGeo64> Why does Firefox use so much RAM?
[04:32] <NeoGeo64> its using like 90mb
[04:32] <incorperated> i installed build-essential now what do i do
[04:32] <nickrud> kravlin, first few sectors of the drive.
[04:33] <ali1234> incorperated: next install the dependencies
[04:33] <PyChild> Driven10 I mean, directly, single click, automatic download, as it does in windows
[04:33] <charlie2> Warbo, flash doesn't even work for me in konqueror, it just says you don't have the latest flash playere
[04:33] <sebastian> !es
[04:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:33] <Warbo> charlie2: I doubt it will be
[04:33] <incorperated> is there a command to find out which ones you need
[04:33] <lmosher> PyChild: Driven10: Well he might have it defaulting to running in a plugin. Anyway, go to tools, options, then content and then pick the media and change the option. Delete the entry to make it ask you.
[04:33] <ctothej> i cant get ffmpeg to use aac, i even built it myself with the aac option!
[04:33] <ali1234> incorperated: there should be a text file with the source which tells you
[04:34] <charlie2> how do i get flash to work in konquror?
[04:34] <kravlin> nickrud: ok. So i have windows and Linux on seperate drives. Because of the MBR could i just put Hd1 and forget the  0.
[04:34] <kravlin> nickrud: right?
[04:34] <jungoh> My sound is not working. If I try and open Volume Control I get this error: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[04:34] <Warbo> charlie2: Sorry, I can't really think of anything else. Gnash would be complex to set up (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash if you're interested), and I've never used SWFDec
[04:35] <incorperated> i cant seem to find it
[04:35] <SexyBoBo> how do you kill x?
[04:35] <Warbo> charlie2: You can search in Synaptic for konqueror plugins (I think there is a package which lets Konqueror use Mozilla plugins)
[04:35] <charlie2> Warbo, thanks but i'll just use firefox, it only crashes on youtube if i don't pause the video before clicking a link, so i'll just try to remember to do that
[04:35] <incorperated> there is awhole bunch of stuff
[04:35] <ali1234> incorperated: where did you get the source?
[04:35] <nickrud> kravlin, no, you still need to identify the partition that windows lives in
[04:35] <Warbo> !flash > charlie2
[04:35] <darklard> holy crap i need sleep uh whats my editor called uh... pino.. nino... no...
[04:35] <PyChild> lmosher You mean "edit>preferences" this is ubuntu, remember, i remember seen that option "under dowloads"
[04:35] <Warbo> charlie2: That may have more info, but I'm all out sorry
[04:35] <charlie2> what is !flash > charlie2
[04:35] <PyChild> lmosher but it seems it is now "file types"
[04:35] <incorperated> what do you mean where did i get the source?
[04:36] <ali1234> incorperated: where did you download it from?
[04:36] <jungoh> darklard, nano?
[04:36] <Warbo> charlie2: That should have sent you a message from the bot ubotu about Flash
[04:36] <charlie2> oh nevermind the bot pmd me
[04:36] <PyChild> lmosher hurray for user "friendly names", anyway thanks i needed that push
[04:36] <SexyBoBo> how do you kill xserver?
[04:36] <justin__> my wifi disconnects every now and then with ubuntu os only any ideas?
[04:36] <darklard> jungoh NANO !!!! thanks... man total spaz i am
[04:36] <incorperated> i dont remember actually
[04:36] <nickrud> kravlin, ask ali1234, he's obviously grubbier than I :)
[04:36] <NemesisD> hi all, something has been seriously borked, im trying to help some with ubuntu edgy over the phone, over 100 packages are showing up as broken D:
[04:36] <jrib> SexyBoBo: sude invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[04:36] <ali1234> SexyBoBo: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:36] <charlie2> i was also wondering how you kill xserver and go back to bash
[04:36] <incorperated> i just looked for a nintendo 64 eemulator
[04:36] <pike_> SexyBoBo: standard way is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   then just start or restart
[04:36] <jungoh> darklard, haha no problem i know the feeling
[04:36] <Warbo> SexyBoBo: press ctrl-alt-f1, login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[04:36] <KoNsTrUcToR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruJ0AMxijdQ
[04:36] <SexyBoBo> ty
[04:36] <incorperated> that what sthink i cant find where i downloaded it from
[04:36] <PyChild> and off i go, thanks!
[04:36] <lmosher> PyChild: Oh right sorry im in windows at the moment :)
[04:36] <kravlin> alil234: nickrud said you're good with grub. Is that true?
[04:37] <incorperated> i have alot fo readme files and stuf
[04:37] <KoNsTrUcToR> sorry
[04:37] <incorperated> but i cant seem to find what to do
[04:37] <incorperated> there is a install file
[04:37] <BrianDonohue> !flood
[04:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:37] <incorperated> can i paste it to  you and see if that helps
[04:37] <ali1234> kravlin: yeah, i know it fairly well
[04:37] <vivi_> 
[04:37] <ali1234> incorperated: pastebin it, or just tell me where i can get a copy of the source
[04:38] <incorperated> how do you pastebin it
[04:38] <kravlin> alil234: I've been working hard to try and get GRUB to work for one week.
[04:38] <incorperated> ill do that
[04:38] <incorperated> but how
[04:38] <vivi_> could somebody can help me ?
[04:38] <kravlin> alil234: With windows.
[04:38] <greyfrog> !ask | vivi_
[04:38] <ubotu> vivi_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <atman> anyone know if you need samba to share files from a host os to virtual machine?
[04:39] <atman> samba installed on the host
[04:39] <atman> ?
[04:39] <pike_> atman: or ssh or ftp
[04:39] <ali1234> !flood | incorperated
[04:39] <ubotu> incorperated: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:39] <vivi_> the problem is
[04:39] <darklard_> so.... before i totally screw something up.... in grub's menu.lst ... if I just cut paste windows OS to above the Ubuntu in there it would be the default start
[04:39] <greyfrog> atman, you could use nfs... it depends on the guest os
[04:39] <pike_> atman: the virtual machine just needs to connect to its gateway (your host) with any way you want
[04:39] <ali1234> kravlin: pastebin your menu.lst?
[04:40] <jungoh> can anyone help out, i have no sound, and i keep getting errors when i try to open volume control (No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.) or play sound (MPlayer:cannot initialize audio device)
[04:40] <kravlin> alil234: It allows me to select it from the list but unfortunately. It displays a bunch of non-latin characters and just stops working.
[04:40] <incorperated> just copy the url from the site
[04:40] <NemesisD> anyone? im getting a ton of broken packages in synaptic, over 100, what could be going wrong
[04:40] <incorperated> or what you mean
[04:40] <BrianDonohue> !broken
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <greyfrog> atman, personally I use what pike_ said: ssh/scp
[04:40] <ali1234> incorperated: yes, paste the url it gives you here
[04:40] <jungoh> !alsa
[04:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:40] <vivi_> when i use the desktop-3d-effect,the title-bar is lost ?
[04:40] <kdiggdy> does ubuntu support agp gfx cards?
[04:40] <vivi_> how to solve the problem?
[04:41] <greyfrog> vivi_, you using Beryl?
[04:41] <vivi_> ?
[04:41] <vivi_> no
[04:41] <pike_> kdiggdy: yes.more important is if you are using ati or nvidia
[04:41] <kdiggdy> ait
[04:41] <kdiggdy> ati
[04:41] <lamalex> vivi_, I have that problem too
[04:41] <vivi_> just the compiz which is inculded
[04:41] <lamalex> i use beryl which works fine
[04:41] <lamalex> only compiz does it
[04:41] <kravlin> alil234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26534/
[04:41] <genti> vivi_ me too
[04:41] <vivi_> ?
[04:41] <greyfrog> !beryl | vivi_
[04:41] <ubotu> vivi_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:42] <vivi_> en ,how to
[04:42] <kdiggdy> i've been trying to configre my computer for about 8 hours now and i'm almost at the point to giveing up
[04:42] <pike_> kdiggdy: if you stick with linux id go nvidia next time. ati is fine for 2d stuff though and some 3d
[04:42] <atman> hmm ty
[04:42] <pike_> kdiggdy: whats the problem
[04:42] <vivi_> compare with beryl ,i do think compiz is better,which is more stable and resource-saving
[04:42] <greyfrog> kdiggdy, yes, ubuntu supports most agp gfx cards
[04:43] <kdiggdy> well when ever i put my gfx card in and try to install or load ubuntu
[04:43] <kdiggdy> it dies
[04:43] <ali1234> kravlin: well, it looks okay - windows is on a different drive, yes? not just a different partition...
[04:43] <greyfrog> kdiggdy, "put my gfx card in"?
[04:43] <kdiggdy> it loads the kernel and the kills the screen
[04:43] <kravlin> yeah. Linux is on a SATA drive. Windows is on an IDE drive that's set as a slave.
[04:43] <kdiggdy> when i have the gfx card inside the computer
[04:44] <pike_> kdiggdy: can you alt-ctrl-f2?
[04:44] <kdiggdy> nope
[04:44] <kdiggdy> my moniter does not get any signal
[04:44] <kravlin> alil234: yeah. Linux is on a SATA drive. Windows is on an IDE drive that's set as a slave.
[04:44] <ali1234> kravlin: hmm... and the linux lines work okay?
[04:44] <kdiggdy> when i dont have the gfx card inside and use the intergrated gfx from the motherboard it runs like a bueaty
[04:44] <kravlin> alil234: i wouldn't be talking to you right now if they didn't
[04:44] <pike_> kdiggdy: ebay the ati card? :)
[04:45] <kdiggdy> cant
[04:45] <pike_> kdiggdy: what model is the card?
[04:45] <kdiggdy> x700 pro
[04:45] <kdiggdy> i have 2 that one and the Gforce 5200
[04:45] <lo4fer> any equivalent of the dead pixel buddy program for us linux users?
[04:45] <ali1234> kravlin: okay... the windows drive is set as slave? if there is a master, then wouldnt that drive be (hd1)? and if there wasnt a master, would the drive work properly as a slave?
[04:46] <ali1234> kravlin: or in other words, maybe you meant (hd2,0)?
[04:46] <vivi_> i had used BERYL for once ,but then i uninstal it
[04:46] <Techi> hey all
[04:46] <Techi> quick question
[04:46] <incorperated> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26535/
[04:46] <incorperated> theres the url to the paste
[04:46] <lo4fer> i was underwhelmed by beryl
[04:46] <incorperated> let me know if you need anymore information
[04:47] <ice799> Hey -- I have an old computer that I don't have the correct monitor adapter for -- its a P3 with a VGA graphics card and I only have a DVI cable -- is there a way to do an automated or remote console instalation of ubuntu on that system?
[04:47] <ali1234> incorperated: okay, i'm checking it
[04:47] <lo4fer> i was too lazy to even learn how to use beryl. that's how unappealing it was to me. i just uninstalled after 30 seconds of moving the wavy windows around.
[04:47] <darklard_> Anyone can help with a quick grub question?
[04:47] <Techi> I have a ubuntu server, with 2 NIC cards... If i were using Windows, i could bind both NIC's to a bridge, and let the bridge control the IP address. Is there some way in Ubuntu Server 7.04 to do this?
[04:47] <Mod_Man> i love the beryl cube
[04:47] <ctothej> subversion froze in the middle of a download, how can i restart from where it left ofF?
[04:47] <lo4fer> darklard you don't have to ask if you can ask or if someone knows. just ask and ppl will answer if they can.
[04:48] <darklard_> I want windows to be the default boot up (for wife) currently ubuntu is default can I just copy paste?
[04:48] <con1> is beryl slow?
[04:48] <lo4fer> mod_man: that's the thing, i was too lazy to even get that far with it lol
[04:48] <vivi_> but beryl takes too many resources
[04:48] <vivi_> right ?
[04:48] <darklard_> lo4fer i usually do but no one answered earlier ;-)
[04:48] <lmosher> ice799: It might be easier to get an adapter? Radioshack? I'm sure it's possible though, you could mimick w/ another PC (but don't do the final install)...
[04:48] <kdiggdy> pike, so anything
[04:48] <Chore-Boy> i just got beryl working on my computer.... but wine runs very slow in it, does that have something to do with me running in xgl?
[04:48] <con1> if i have a good graphic card, will it speed up beryl?
[04:49] <Chore-Boy> beryl runs pretty fast on my x800
[04:49] <ice799> lmosher, well i've used BSD before and there is a way to do a remote installation wherein the data output to the console is sent over the network to a receiving computer and displayed
[04:49] <[Tiju4n0] > eh pelicano
[04:49] <pike_> kdiggdy: i dunno i did a quick search of forums but didnt see anything other than standard x config stuff
[04:49] <[Tiju4n0] > x ke me rajaste guacho?
[04:49] <ice799> lmosher, i was wondering if ubuntu has something similar
[04:49] <kravlin> alil234: I posted more information here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26536/ No there is no master drive above the one with windows on it.
[04:49] <kdiggdy> all right thanks
[04:49] <ali1234> ice799: yeah there is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[04:49] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: I've used beryl and wine w/out a problem.. could be not enough ram or processor
[04:49] <lo4fer> yeah sometimes you just have to wait 20 and ask again. i wish i could help you out.
[04:49] <rustalot> can I tell cat (or some other such program) to print lines 234 - 260 of file foo.bar ?
[04:49] <Chore-Boy> just, wine runs slow while im using beryl, i had to change the session to xgl
[04:49] <julio> hi, what's the comand to delete and archive?
[04:49] <tinwhiskers> con1 - that would be a big 'hell yes it would';
[04:49] <ali1234> kravlin: can even windows operate that way?
[04:49] <[Tiju4n0] > sobre que usas ubuntu gil me echas
[04:49] <lmosher> ice799: Oh, yes you're right I've heard of people doing that. Oh ali got it, there ya go :)
[04:49] <[Tiju4n0] > bueno cualquier cosa esto
[04:49] <BrianDonohue> !beryl
[04:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:49] <lo4fer> shouldn't be too hard to find documentation on changing default boot order in grub tho.
[04:50] <wastedfluid> Hi.  I removed my swap, to re-size it.  I re-created it; it's still /hda5... however, I'm having problems.  WHen ubuntu starts, it doesn't auto-mount.. but if I /sbin/mkswap it, it works.. ANY ideas?? it's listed in my fstab.
[04:50] <NemesisD> ok does anybody have any ideas why over 100 packages are showing as broken in synaptic?
[04:50] <ice799> ali1234, that assumes there is something installed on the remote system already though! I suppose what I am asking might be difficult or impossible...
[04:50] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: well, i have an athlonxp 2500, and 1gb of ram
[04:50] <ali1234> incorperated: those compilation instructions are extremely unhelpful, unfortunately
[04:50] <incorperated> ok
[04:50] <julio> hi everyone, what's the comand to delte an archive?
[04:50] <incorperated> where should i look
[04:50] <lo4fer> default boot order in grub http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=280342
[04:50] <incorperated> let me see if i can find a link to the site
[04:50] <darklard_> lo4fer you would think... but it seems to be just so basic a question they don't cover it in their manual...
[04:50] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: Hrm should be OK then. Do you get good FSP with glxgears?
[04:50] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: i also had to make an xgl session to get beryl to work, is that maybe the problem?
[04:50] <ali1234> incorperated: try searching the ubuntu forums to see if anybody has posted a detailed guide to compiling it
[04:50] <julio> sudo delete?
[04:50] <Chore-Boy> glxgears?
[04:50] <incorperated> ok
[04:51] <incorperated> if not ill be back with a source or link or something helpful
[04:51] <rustalot> julio: like, a .rar file you have lying around?
[04:51] <Chore-Boy> ok, i ran glxgears, how do i see the fps
[04:51] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: Just type 'gxlgears' and wait it will tell you the FPS every 5 seconds. What do you get?
[04:51] <kravlin> alil234: I had two disks running that both had different versions of windows. I was able to switch the one that booted first in my BIOS and they worked fine.
[04:51] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: in a terminal window, of course.
[04:51] <julio> no, and archive called xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[04:51] <wastedfluid> Hi.  I removed my swap, to re-size it.  I re-created it; it's still /hda5... however, I'm having problems.  WHen ubuntu starts, it doesn't auto-mount.. but if I /sbin/mkswap it, it works.. ANY ideas?? it's listed in my fstab.
[04:51] <darklard_> lo4fer i've noticed that about lots of linux manuals they have answers for everything except the simple things ;-) I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't mess it up if I just coppied the windows boot section above the ubuntu section
[04:51] <jungoh> my sound isn't working at all, when i run alsamixer i get this error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:51] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: about 7500fps
[04:52] <ali1234> kravlin: okay but in both cases, you had a master and a slave... i dont think you can have just a slave on it's own as the windows boot device...
[04:52] <rustalot> julio: from the command line, or the GUI?
[04:52] <julio> it's because i have some problems trying to install ati driver and i wanna begin all over again, from the zero
[04:52] <julio> command line
[04:52] <wols> ali1234: as long as the bIOS is ok with it, you can
[04:52] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: That's fine, then. Ok. You're running xgl in another x? Hm. I remember having an issue w/ that once, I had to tell wine to run in X itself and I got much better performance.
[04:52] <kravlin> alil234: Ill go test that out.
[04:52] <Techi> Flannel, you around?
[04:53] <lo4fer> yeah the forums work a treat when the manuals fail.
[04:53] <tidrion> E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[04:53] <tidrion> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:53] <tidrion> any ideas?
[04:53] <rustalot> you want to do 'sudo rm /path/to/the/file'
[04:53] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: Now I use X7, so no xgl anymore. That could be a cause of the slowdown.
[04:53] <lo4fer> here is a good resource too, but as you see you can't always get an answer b/c there's not always someone who knows
[04:53] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: im not sure i had to change it to xml because i have a radeon card, i guess, thats what the internet told me lol
[04:53] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: what is x7?
[04:54] <wastedfluid> Hi.  I removed my swap, to re-size it.  I re-created it; it's still /hda5... however, I'm having problems.  WHen ubuntu starts, it doesn't auto-mount.. but if I /sbin/mkswap it, it works.. ANY ideas?? it's listed in my fstab.
[04:54] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: xorg 7, it just has a built-in composite manager (like xgl) but atm it only works w/ nvidia as far as I know
[04:54] <PeDePano> hi
[04:54] <wols> lymeca|3: aiglx?
[04:54] <PeDePano> does anyone here use ubuntu 64 bits?
[04:54] <julio> Why my desktop effects doesn function, after i try to active that, a window appear and say "desktop effect couldn be actived
[04:55] <wols> it wokrs with anytthing but fglrx is more like it
[04:55] <wastedfluid> Hi guys.  Need some help.  I deleted/re-created my swap file to re-size it.  It's still /dev/hda5... but it doesn't auto-mount on boot.  /sbin/mkswap makes it show up.  It's listed in "fstab".  any ideas?
[04:55] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: is 7 just the new version? which one do i have with feisty?
[04:55] <wols> !effects | julio
[04:55] <ubotu> julio: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <julio> ok, thank-s
[04:55] <wols> !repeat | wastedfluid
[04:55] <ubotu> wastedfluid: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:56] <lo4fer> !botabuse | wols
[04:56] <ubotu> wols: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:56] <lo4fer> bwahaha
[04:56] <PeDePano> does anyone here use ubuntu 64 bits?
[04:56] <lmosher> Chore-Boy: Yes. Now, for xgl... if I remember right you put X on display 0, and XGL on display 1. So I -think- if you want to get wine to go on display 0 you just open a terminal and type '$DISPLAY=:0" and then run wine, I've forgotten tho it's been awhile. I bet if you ask in #beryl someone can help you more.
[04:56] <lo4fer> wols: just fooling
[04:57] <wols> lo4fer: go to bed kiddo
[04:57] <lo4fer> wols: i should. work tomorrow and all that
[04:57] <greg_g> wastedfluid: does your fstab UUID for your swap match the command "ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -alh"
[04:57] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  I don't have UUID's in my fstab..
[04:57] <Chore-Boy> lmosher: thanks
[04:57] <lmosher> PeDePano: I not currently, but I've used it before. What's up?
[04:58] <wols> PeDePano: ask your real question
[04:58] <greg_g> you just have the /dev/sda# etc?
[04:58] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  It's /dev/hda5.. etc.
[04:59] <greg_g> use pastepin for your fstab so I can take a quick look
[04:59] <greg_g> !paste
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <wastedfluid> ok.
[04:59] <pike_> anyone need help? im in a giving mood
[04:59] <wastedfluid> greg_g; http://pastebin.ca/580493
[05:00] <wols> wastedfluid: boot, try to mount /dev/hda5 and see what error it gives
[05:00] <ali1234> pike_: what's the easiest way to install on a machine with no cdrom, no floppy, no network, and no existing OS?
[05:00] <wastedfluid> how do you want me to mount it?
[05:00] <wastedfluid> I have to /sbin/mkswap to make it activate.. sudo swapon -a doesn't work.
[05:00] <lmosher> Ew interesting problem. I (as some know) just moved around my partitions. I want to add a windows partition now, but my XP install is saying it can't find any disks. Why, god, why? Do I need to pre-format the partition NTFS for it?
[05:00] <PeDePano> lmosher, my splash screen is not colored... is it normal in 64 bits versions?
[05:00] <shiester_miester> pike_, you could help me :P
[05:00] <PeDePano> wols, same thing for u
[05:00] <shiester_miester> theres a few things I'd like to do that I haven't been able to solve
[05:00] <sebastian> were i can find a ircop ??
[05:00] <jrib> sebastian: why?
[05:01] <wols> sebastian: #freenode
[05:01] <sebastian> ok thx
[05:01] <lmosher> PeDePano: hmm I think mine was. It might not be enabling the right driver for your videocard until the OS is running
[05:01] <righteous> hello everyone i need help with installing a wireless card
[05:01] <shiester_miester> pike_, my most severe problem is the one that this attempts to fix:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26364/ but to no avail
[05:01] <righteous> can anyone help me?
[05:01] <mezziah> great, now miranda over wine stopped working
[05:01] <greg_g> wastedfluid: in my fstab, the mount point for the swap partition is "none"
[05:02] <pike_> ali1234: we'll need a magnet and a num 2 sewing needle
[05:02] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  I know, I changed that off a tutorial, and it still didn't work.. it used to be none, and still didn't work
[05:02] <greg_g> wastedfluid: ok
[05:02] <mezziah> oh it didn't
[05:02] <PeDePano> lmosher, is there any problem with the linux itself? or may i use it normally?
[05:02] <mezziah> nevermind.
[05:02] <shiester_miester> pike_, i just realised that that thing doesnt really tell you what the problem is..  basically when I boot ubuntu on another machine it hangs and gives me the error "sh cant access tty"
[05:02] <ali1234> pike_: last time i did it by hot swapping my harddrive (this machine does not have hot swap, but it worked... somehow)
[05:02] <Beastlykings> where would I go on the net to make a .vmx file? I know there is a site but googleing is no ghelp.
[05:02] <shiester_miester> ali1234, thats probably a really, really bad idea
[05:03] <righteous> does anyone know anything about getting wireless cards to work
[05:03] <lmosher> PeDePano: I think so.. is everything else color once it starts?
[05:03] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  do you think setting up the UUID's would work?  thisi stotally annoying, because hibernate *used* to work until I res-ized my partitions..
[05:03] <PeDePano> lmosher, yes
[05:03] <shiester_miester> righteous, people come in with wireless problems all the time
[05:03] <PeDePano> apparently normal
[05:03] <righteous> cool
[05:03] <righteous> i need help
[05:03] <greg_g> wastedfluid: just to make sure, pastebin the results of "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda"
[05:03] <wastedfluid> ok
[05:03] <lmosher> PeDePano: Then it sounds like you're OK, it probably just doesn't enable the proper color modes until it loads the proper drivers
[05:03] <righteous> with more than one issue
[05:03] <righteous> if you would be so kind to help me
[05:03] <greg_g> wastedfluid: btw, what version are you running?
[05:03] <wastedfluid> greg_g; "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda" returns nothing
[05:03] <wastedfluid> dapper drake ^
[05:03] <jungoh> anyone wanna help out? i can load my gnome-alsamixer as root, but as a normal user i just get errors, what's up?
[05:03] <shiester_miester> yes, we all understand the fact that you need help righteous
[05:03] <wols> righteous: state your real problem
[05:04] <shiester_miester> stop asking for help and ask your question :P
[05:04] <PeDePano> lmosher, thanks, i thought that was a bug in 64 bits version
[05:04] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  it says sfdisk cannot open /dev/sda for reading
[05:04] <PeDePano> lmosher, in all the OS...
[05:04] <righteous> i cannot detect anything from my wireless card
[05:04] <righteous> using wiki
[05:04] <greg_g> oh, whoops, switch sda with hda
[05:04] <Beastlykings> nevermind, I found easyvmx.com
[05:04] <shiester_miester> pike_, any ideas?
[05:04] <righteous> im sitting next to my wireless router and it doesnt see it
[05:04] <greg_g> wastedfluid: switch sda with hda
[05:04] <wastedfluid> ok, hold on
[05:04] <wols> righteous: what wlan chip?
[05:04] <pike_> shiester_miester: from livecd or install?
[05:04] <greg_g> wastedfluid: just making sure you saw it
[05:04] <wastedfluid> greg_g;  http://pastebin.ca/580503
[05:04] <righteous> how can i check that
[05:05] <righteous> im a total noob
[05:05] <shiester_miester> pike_, installed fine off of livecd
[05:05] <lukealpha> << noob
[05:05] <shiester_miester> pike_, i can boot from the livecd no problems, and install ubuntu feisty no problems
[05:05] <shiester_miester> pike_, however, booting ubuntu feisty from the hdd doesnt work
[05:05] <righteous> btw im using unbuntu fiesty x64
[05:05] <wols> robert_: answer the question
[05:06] <lukealpha> can anyone in here help me
[05:06] <lukealpha> ?
[05:06] <wols> lukealpha: don't ask to ask
[05:06] <greg_g> wastedfluid: hrmmm
[05:06] <mezziah> yes lukealpha, just ask your question
[05:06] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, stop asking for help and ask your question
[05:06] <pike_> shiester_miester: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&page=2 discusses several solutions im not sure realy sry
[05:06] <righteous> how can i find what wlan im on
[05:06] <wastedfluid> greg_g; it *used* to work.  When I deleted my partition, and re-sized it.. it just no longer auto-mounts.  Hibernate no longer works, either.. >:|
[05:06] <lukealpha> i cant get conect to chatrooms on gyach or get any sound
[05:07] <kravlin> Well. That didn't change anything.
[05:07] <wols> wastedfluid: I asked you to do something. please do it
[05:07] <righteous> someone?
[05:07] <sx66> how do you bring back the notification area with the wifi notification: only the battery is showing.
[05:07] <wastedfluid> wols: I'm sorry.  You asked me to paste.. er, hold on
[05:07] <greg_g> wastedfluid: I'm trying to find the line where you said what swapon command you used
[05:07] <shiester_miester> righteous, no idea
[05:07] <ali1234> kravlin: sounds like your windows install is messed up...
[05:07] <wols> righteous: I asked you to tell us something. do it
[05:08] <lukealpha> its not on windows im on ubuntu fesity 64
[05:08] <kravlin> alil234: I really hope not.
[05:08] <wastedfluid> wols:  It's already mounetd atm..
[05:08] <righteous> wols i told you
[05:08] <ali1234> kravlin: try removing the linux disk or disabling it in the bios or whatever, then boot windows directly
[05:08] <kravlin> ok.
[05:08] <righteous> i dont know how to find that info
[05:08] <wols> wastedfluid: yes O lmpw- nit O asled ypi sp,etjomg secofoc
[05:08] <righteous> can you please tell me how
[05:08] <ali1234> kravlin: if that doesnt work repair it using the windows install disk
[05:08] <wols> !sound | lukealpha
[05:08] <ubotu> lukealpha: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:08] <wastedfluid> ????
[05:08] <ali1234> kravlin: if it does work, then i can't really offer any further advice... sorry
[05:08] <wols> righteous: pci card, usb, pcmcia?
[05:08] <wastedfluid> greg_g; /sbin/mkswap -v /dev/hda5 works.
[05:08] <lukealpha> its not the sound on ubuntu its gyach i get no sound on it
[05:08] <righteous> pci
[05:09] <KoNsTrUcToR> server irc.irc-evolution.org
[05:09] <wols> righteous: lspci
[05:09] <lukealpha> i cant do voice conferences and i cant get into any chatroom
[05:09] <wols> !info gyach
[05:09] <righteous> i type that in the terminal?
[05:09] <ubotu> Package gyach does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:09] <greg_g> does the command top show the correct amount of swap space?
[05:09] <wols> lukealpha: what is gyach? we only support ubuntu here
[05:09] <shiester_miester> pike_, thanks for that page, will see if it helps
[05:09] <kravlin> alil234: if that works then i may just change that in my bios whenver i want to go into windows.
[05:09] <wastedfluid> greg_g: hold on
[05:09] <lukealpha> gyach is suported by ubuntu
[05:09] <mezziah> righteous: yes
[05:09] <wastedfluid> greg_g; Swap:  1919728k total,    18724k used,  1901004k free,   462808k cached
[05:09] <lukealpha> i have it i installed it through automatix
[05:09] <wastedfluid> no, it doesn't
[05:10] <wols> gyaresu: then tell me where ubuntu.com distributes this gyach please
[05:10] <ali1234> kravlin: you can get the windows bootloader to chainload grub also... i think
[05:10] <wols> !automatix
[05:10] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:10] <righteous> what am i looking for wols
[05:10] <wastedfluid> wait, yes it does.
[05:10] <righteous> once i get to that screen
[05:10] <wastedfluid> greg: it all matches.
[05:10] <wols> lukealpha: see the "we don#
[05:10] <wols> lukealpha: see the "we don't support it"?
[05:10] <wols> righteous: paste it in a pastebin
[05:10] <kravlin> alil234: I want as little interfacing with windows as possible.
[05:10] <righteous> im a total noob man
[05:10] <rustalot> does the search function in less (/query) work the same way as grep
[05:11] <righteous> i dont know what a paste bin is
[05:11] <wols> !paste | righteous
[05:11] <ubotu> righteous: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:11] <wastedfluid> wols: mount: mount point none does not exist
[05:11] <lukealpha> ok well thanks for the help anyways guys
[05:11] <Mod_Man> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_default_Operating_System_boot-up_for_GRUB_menu
[05:11] <Dr_willis> rustalot,  yes. same as in 'vi' I belive also.
[05:11] <Frogzoo> rustalot: egrep, yes
[05:11] <lukealpha>  amd 64
[05:12] <lukealpha> amd 64 3800 dualcore
[05:12] <lukealpha> 2 gb ram
[05:12] <lukealpha> 1 terabyte hard drive
[05:12] <KuunLB> hmm is there an xchat command that will list my current ubuntu version ?
[05:12] <wols> lukealpha: this is OT. but yes we can see how you are very potent with a machine like this. do you have a sports car too?
[05:12] <reya276> How can I remove realplayer?
[05:12] <wols> !version
[05:13] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:13] <righteous> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26539/
[05:13] <righteous> i think thats how you view my paste
[05:13] <righteous> wols
[05:13] <wols> reya276: how did you install it?
[05:13] <lukealpha>  768mb vga directx10
[05:13] <kravlin> alil234: It changed to hda. so that would make me need to change the hd to hd0?
[05:13] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, your e-penis must be HUUUUUGE
[05:13] <lukealpha> dual sli
[05:13] <reya276> make install realplayer
[05:13] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, also, the enter key is not punctuation, please write your text in one line
[05:13] <reya276> or did I
[05:14] <wols> reya276: you have a broadcom 4318 chip. either use the bcm43xx driver via bcm43xx-fwcutter or use NDISwrapper with with your windows driver
[05:14] <mezziah> guys i need your help.. it seems that 'man' stopped working. everytime i enter something like.. say 'man irssi' it just gives me a list of commandline parameters, like in 'man --help' or something
[05:14] <reya276> hum.. good question I don't remember all I know is that it is a .bin file not .deb
[05:14] <ali1234> kravlin: not sure... the best way to find out is to look at the list of devices from the grub prompt
[05:14] <wols> righteous: both have tons of howtos for ubuntu I imagine
[05:14] <kravlin> alil234: That would make it hd0 even with the Sata drive.
[05:14] <mezziah> the package 'manpages' is installed
[05:14] <ali1234> kravlin: also windows sometimes has problems if you move the boot device around
[05:14] <kravlin> i think.
[05:14] <righteous> ive followed a few
[05:15] <righteous> they make it seem so easy
[05:15] <righteous> lol
[05:15] <righteous> never is
[05:15] <lukealpha> i also have a 8 core amd athlon
[05:15] <reya276> huh? broadcom, no you guys are thinking of the Laptop wireless issue I had I fixed that
[05:15] <righteous> thats why im asking a pro
[05:15] <greg_g> wastedfluid: I have no idea right now... I mean, your fstab looks right and that really should be it
[05:15] <lukealpha> 4 gb ram
[05:15] <wols> righteous: then you don't ask #ubuntu but real.com. the way to delete stuff like that is delete all the files it installed
[05:15] <yo2k> mezziah: sudo updatedb
[05:15] <Frogzoo> mezziah: do you get anything from 'alias man' ?
[05:15] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, are you trying to impress us
[05:15] <Naisenu> Installed the ntfs-3g and ntfs-config. Ran ntfs-config to allow access on internal HDD. Appear to allow only root to write. Anyway I can allow the two main users permissions to write to the drive?
[05:15] <mezziah> thanks i'll try that out
[05:15] <righteous> wols
[05:15] <ali1234> kravlin: also if windows is installed on a raw partition that could affect it - it would be (hd1) then i think
[05:15] <righteous> im not using real
[05:15] <righteous> lol
[05:15] <reya276> all I want to do is remove realplayer from my system
[05:15] <wols> lukealpha: stop that you're being OT
[05:15] <mezziah> Frogzoo: wait a sec
[05:15] <wols> righteous: sorry. reya276 is
[05:15] <lukealpha> what is ot ?
[05:15] <righteous> did you get that pastebin
[05:15] <righteous> wols
[05:16] <vlad_> heya, does feisty have debuginfo packages available?
[05:16] <wols> reya276: you didn't use a ubuntu .deb so #ubuntu cannot help you
[05:16] <Naisenu> lukealpha, ot = Off Topic
[05:16] <mezziah> yo2k: didn't change anything
[05:16] <reya276> wols you lost me on that one
[05:16] <wols> righteous: I did and UI answered you
[05:16] <lukealpha> lol
[05:16] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, youre doing a pretty crappy job of being impressive...most of the people in this channel are hardcore geeks that know of much better rigs than yours
[05:16] <mezziah> Frogzoo: bash: alias: man: not found
[05:16] <SaveFerris_> shes asleep already? or is she raving?
[05:16] <kravlin> alil234: so when i get into the grub prompt what do i type to bring up the list of devices.
[05:16] <vlad_> oh, -dbg I guess?
[05:16] <righteous> whos ui
[05:16] <reya276> ok got yah
[05:16] <righteous> i dont understand wols
[05:16] <yo2k> mezziah: try again --> man packages
[05:16] <Frogzoo> mezziah: ok, how bout 'which man'
[05:16] <lukealpha>  im not trying to be impressive
[05:16] <wols> righteous: if you want us to help you, use .debs to install stuff. debs from ubunut.com. also: we cannot know where and how realplayer installed files so we cannot help you to remove it. ask real.com
[05:17] <ali1234> kravlin: about grub - when you see the grub menu when booting, you can escape to a grub prompt. at that point you can type in commands like in the menu.lst, as well as others
[05:17] <lukealpha> i was just trying to see the reaction i would get from people
[05:17] <shiester_miester> no, youre just listing all the specs of your system on one line each for absolutely no reason
[05:17] <righteous> wols im not using real player
[05:17] <righteous> come on man
[05:17] <SaveFerris_> hey where are we?
[05:17] <mezziah> yo2k: yep, as said, same behaviour
[05:17] <lukealpha> lol
[05:17] <righteous> why do you keep saying that
[05:17] <wols> lukealpha: stop trolling
[05:17] <lukealpha> yes to get a reaction
[05:17] <reya276> the reason why I came here is because I'v been searching everywhere on how to remove it, no luck, bu thanks
[05:17] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, why? do you think we care about your hardware?
[05:17] <righteous> i dont need help with real player
[05:17] <wols> !ops lukealpha is trolling
[05:17] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, the screensaver 'sonar' under Gnome should be able to display networks in stead of the usual Migs and F18 ... can someone help ?
[05:17] <righteous> i need help with my wireless vard
[05:17] <kravlin> alil234: right. So what commands do i use to bring up the info on my hard drives?
[05:17] <mezziah> Frogzoo: that's quite a lot of output, i'll paste it somewhere else
[05:17] <ali1234> kravlin: just checking
[05:17] <lukealpha> lol see this is the reason why i did cause i know you folks in here would ask me questions like this
[05:18] <Frogzoo> mezziah: 'which man' should just give /usr/bin/man
[05:18] <righteous> can someone else help me
[05:18] <righteous> wols doesnt know what hes talking about
[05:18] <mezziah> Frogzoo: http://pastebin.ca/580520
[05:18] <shiester_miester> lukealpha, you kinda ruined the potential for reaction when you came in and said you were a noob :P a noob with a good system is nothing special
[05:18] <ali1234> kravlin: try "root (" followed by tab
[05:18] <bruenig> righteous, what is the issue
[05:18] <lukealpha> i dont have a good system
[05:18] <righteous> cannot connect to my wireless router
[05:19] <wols> bruenig: broadcomn 4318
[05:19] <righteous> cannot get a signal
[05:19] <shiester_miester> yeah you do, its quite good...not the best but good enough for most things
[05:19] <bruenig> righteous, and what makes you think wols is wrong?
[05:19] <mezziah> Frogzoo: oh, i found out that '/usr/bin/man irssi' works
[05:19] <lukealpha> no not for my needs
[05:19] <righteous> hey kept talking about real player
[05:19] <righteous> he*
[05:19] <wols> !ntfs | Naisenu
[05:19] <ubotu> Naisenu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:19] <Frogzoo> mezziah: so what set this function for man ? try a new terminal
[05:19] <righteous> i have no issue with real player
[05:19] <bruenig> righteous, oh yeah that does seem off
[05:19] <shiester_miester> needs like what, lukealpha ?
[05:19] <ali1234> kravlin: or "root (hd1" then tab
[05:19] <righteous> i never got an answer
[05:19] <vlad_> hrm, no.. so no debuginfo packages for ubuntu?
[05:19] <bruenig> !wifi | righteous did you read this yet?
[05:19] <ubotu> righteous did you read this yet?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:19] <wols> bruenig: reya276 vs righteous. *sigh*
[05:20] <lukealpha> id rather not say its ot
[05:20] <Naisenu> wols: Yah, got to the install part of ntfs-3g & config. It only allows root access to write.
[05:20] <kravlin> alil234: Unrecognized drive string
[05:20] <shiester_miester> suit yourself :P
[05:20] <mezziah> Frogzoo: doesn't work after launching a new terminal.. and i didn't understand your question :S
[05:20] <righteous> yes
[05:20] <kravlin> alil234: Unrecognized device string
[05:20] <righteous> its not very informative
[05:20] <kravlin> alil234: sorry. its the second one.
[05:20] <wols> righteous: have you looked for any broadcom howtos on the forums?
[05:20] <Naisenu> !ntfs-3g
[05:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:20] <doms> j #ubuntu-ph
[05:21] <mezziah> Frogzoo: isn't there a variable like 'set man=/usr/bin/man'?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> mezziah: grep man ~/.* |grep function
[05:21] <ali1234> kravlin: i don't understand?
[05:21] <ali1234> kravlin: dont press enter, press tab
[05:21] <kravlin> it stated root (hd1
[05:21] <kemax> Gnome Windows List applet shows only icons?
[05:21] <kravlin> and then it did nothing at all
[05:21] <righteous> its not a broadcom card
[05:21] <righteous> its a buffalo
[05:21] <ali1234> press tab again?
[05:21] <Naisenu> yep that got me around full circle. I need the assistance with groups/users/permissions.
[05:21] <mezziah> Frogzoo: http://pastebin.ca/580525
[05:22] <kravlin> root (hd0,0)
[05:22] <mezziah> Frogzoo: is there a chance that my new .bashrc (i got it from another place) messed that up?
[05:22] <elmo_> i'm looking for a linuxdriver for my minoltafax 2600 printer... googled ages.. anyone knows help?
[05:22] <yo2k> mezziah: sudo man packages
[05:22] <kravlin> but it did nothing whatsoever.
[05:22] <wols> righteous: you are mistaken. buffalo doesn't make a single chip broadcom does. ti's a braodcom chip
[05:22] <mezziah> yo2k: works perfectly
[05:22] <ali1234> kravlin: then (hd0,0) is the only partition it found
[05:22] <bruenig> mezziah, export MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/man
[05:22] <wols> righteous: 02:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02
[05:22] <Frogzoo> mezziah: open ~/.bashrc with a text editor & comment out the bash() function - you should open a new terminal & it will then work
[05:23] <lukealpha> ok look i have another question anyone help me i promise its not off topic
[05:23] <wols> righteous: unless you have more than one "802.11g Wireless LAN Controller" ?
[05:23] <mezziah> bruenig: thank you but it doesn't work :(
[05:23] <Frogzoo> mezziah: I mean the 'man()' function
[05:23] <mezziah> Frogzoo: ok sec
[05:23] <greg_g> whats up lukealpha
[05:23] <righteous> i dont know man
[05:23] <righteous> lol
[05:23] <lukealpha> root@lukealpha-desktop:/home/lukealpha# cd pcsx2
[05:23] <lukealpha> root@lukealpha-desktop:/home/lukealpha/pcsx2# ./configure
[05:23] <lukealpha> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:23] <righteous> your going beyond me
[05:23] <righteous> i think i have one
[05:23] <lukealpha> i try to instal this i get this error
[05:24] <bruenig> mezziah, I am not sure what you are doing exactly but man is already in the path, there is no reason to screw with /usr/bin/man, it would have something to do with the MANPATH not the path to the man executable
[05:24] <kravlin> alil234: Meaning?
[05:24] <ali1234> kravlin: it sounds like grub cant understand the format of the windows disk, probably cos it is a dynamic volume or a raw partition or something
[05:24] <doms> how to free my hardisk ubuntu? like emtry Trash and Empty Thumbnails and empty  apt/Cache
[05:24] <yo2k> semarang: sopo iki...
[05:24] <greg_g> lukealpha: well, is there a configure file in that directory?
[05:24] <righteous> i am just starting all of this
[05:24] <lukealpha> yes
[05:24] <righteous> so i need my hand held through every step
[05:24] <semarang> #semarang
[05:24] <Frogzoo> bruenig: for some reason, man is defined as a function in mezziah ~/.bashrc
[05:25] <kravlin> well i ran it from inside terminal instead of at boot.
[05:25] <lukealpha> i also tried ./pcsx2 dont work either
[05:25] <mezziah> bruenig: i don't know.. but i'm pretty sure it worked before messing with the .bashrc, so the problem should be there i guess
[05:25] <bruenig> Frogzoo, oh, weird, sounds malicious
[05:25] <lukealpha> and when i try to do a make it get another error
[05:25] <righteous> can someone help me step by step
[05:25] <righteous> or maybe vnc
[05:25] <righteous> and show me
[05:25] <bruenig> doms, apt-get clean is how to clean apt cache, you know how to do the rest I assume
[05:25] <ali1234> kravlin: that should do the same thing...
[05:25] <greg_g> lukealpha: is there a README or INSTALL file?
[05:25] <lukealpha> no
[05:25] <lukealpha> oh wait there is an install file yes
[05:26] <wols> righteous:if you don't want to do any work or spend any effort yourselves: good luck. you will need it
[05:26] <mezziah> Frogzoo: i can't find 'bash()', may i show you the whole .bash.rc? it's pretty huge though
[05:26] <righteous> i am spending time right now
[05:26] <Dr_willis> righteous,  depends on the exact version of vnc. i had to copy the /etc/vnc.conf file to the /home/USERNAME/.vncrc and edited it to run what i wanted
[05:26] <righteous> lol
[05:26] <jamman> lukealpha, do "cat INSTALL:
[05:26] <righteous> i just need someone to hold my hand through the begining
[05:26] <jamman> lukealpha, do "cat INSTALL"
[05:26] <kravlin> alil234: so any other suggestions?
[05:26] <lukealpha> ok
[05:26] <n2diy_> righteous: I just checked in, what are you trying to do?
[05:26] <jamman> lukealpha, do the second command.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> righteous,  one issue with vnc is theres several 'variants'
[05:27] <wols> n2diy_: get his broadcom 4318 working
[05:27] <ali1234> kravlin: the only thing i can think of is try (hd1) instead of (hd1,0)
[05:27] <ali1234> kravlin: but that is a total shot in the dark and probably wont work
[05:27] <n2diy_> wols: cable modem?
[05:27] <righteous> yes
[05:27] <nickrud> doms, sudo apt-get clean  (for the cache) , right click the trash icon and select empty trash from the menu, and rm -r ~/.thumbnails/*
[05:27] <spasticteapot> My sound on my laptop has mysteriously disappeared. Aside from system beeps, I get nothing.
[05:27] <righteous> cant detect my wireless router
[05:27] <wols> n2diy_: do you know what a broadcom 4318 is?
[05:27] <righteous> or anything at that
[05:28] <spasticteapot> How do I get my laptop to play music, video, etc through the onboard (intel) soundcard?
[05:28] <wols> !sound | spasticteapot
[05:28] <ubotu> spasticteapot: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:28] <spasticteapot> IT used to work, but I had to manually restart it after it refused to come out of sleep mode.
[05:28] <n2diy_> wols: a cable modem? :)
[05:28] <kravlin> alil234: I just mounted the drive in linux.
[05:28] <jamman> spasticteapot, are all of the channels turned up?
[05:28] <wols> n2diy_: don't bother. broadcom 43xx are a widely known range of wlan cards
[05:28] <spasticteapot> jamman: Yup.
[05:28] <ali1234> kravlin: okay...? but grub is not linux :)
[05:29] <jamman> spasticteapot, well, are you alsa modules loaded?
[05:29] <n2diy_> wols: roger.
[05:29] <spasticteapot> jamman: Fixed it. Dunno what the problem was - I just had to unmute PCM on the volume panel.
[05:29] <spasticteapot> How it got jiggered off I don't know.
[05:29] <spasticteapot> Thanks!
[05:29] <righteous> thats great wols
[05:29] <righteous> but i still need help
[05:30] <jamman> righteous, whats your prob?
[05:30] <wols> righteous: I told you what to do. if you don't whant to: your choice
[05:30] <righteous> i cant get my wireless card to work
[05:30] <chrismurf> Does anybody know how to view the clipboard in linux?  I copy and paste two identical things; one pastes, one doesn't. I figure it's a data format issue or something, but I don't know what the clipboard is storing.
[05:30] <righteous> you gave me a link
[05:30] <righteous> ive tried that
[05:30] <righteous> ?~?~
[05:30] <jamman> !ndiswrapper | righteous
[05:30] <ubotu> righteous: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:30] <righteous> ?!?!
[05:30] <wols> kravlin: what happens when you chose the windows install and press enter int he menu?
[05:30] <jamman> righteous, is that the place you went to?
[05:30] <righteous> i followed the inital setup instructions
[05:30] <righteous> in ubuntu help
[05:30] <Oni-Dracula> does ubuntu have SATA hard drive support?
[05:31] <Oni-Dracula> feisty, that is
[05:31] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, yes
[05:31] <nalioth> Orion: it does, depending on the controller
[05:31] <righteous> but the only help i seem to find is to reload the drivers on that website
[05:31] <righteous> i dont even know what a kernel is
[05:31] <righteous> im completly new
[05:31] <righteous> i need help
[05:31] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, what could cause the installer to not detect a hard drive when the BIOS sees it
[05:31] <kravlin> wols: it shows a bunch of non-latin characters.
[05:31] <jamman> righteous, sorry, i gotta hit the hay now. somebody else may be able to help you.
[05:31] <righteous> im not asking too much i dont think
[05:32] <stonerrob420> hi
[05:32] <chrismurf> righteous, but you're just asking it of other users like you ;-)
[05:32] <jamman> righteous, i have to get up at 5:30 and it's 9:30... se you.
[05:32] <Zambezi> How can I get another IP temporary? I can't make Tork work.
[05:32] <n2diy_> righteous: so you found your wireless card modules on the net?
[05:32] <righteous> i understand but someone has to know
[05:32] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, it could be that the drive controller isn't supported by the kernel
[05:32] <Zambezi> I need a simple thing for just some screenshots.
[05:32] <righteous> this isnt a headless monster is it?
[05:32] <wols> kravlin: tried to use (hd2,0) for it yet to boot?
[05:32] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, poopie...no easy workaround I assume?
[05:32] <yo2k> righteous: lspci
[05:32] <righteous> already got that
[05:32] <stonerrob420> anybody know how to mount a HD that the MBR is messed up on? ubuntu dapper
[05:32] <righteous> you want a paste bin?
[05:33] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, could be other things too
[05:33] <wols> yo2k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26539/ is his pastre
[05:33] <Crav> what do i need to do to resize my windows partition?
[05:33] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, do you know what controller you have?
[05:33] <chrismurf> get to a prompt and type lspci
[05:33] <wols> Crav: gparted
[05:33] <n2diy_> righteous: I don't know who you are talking to? Use my nick if addressing me, so it stands out from the rest of the traffic.
[05:33] <zed__> hello, before this last reinstall i had found a command to make "lspci" show all the info regardless of driver support. i forgot what it was, any idea ?
[05:34] <wols> zed__: lspci doesn't care about drivers. it will show always all devices
[05:34] <kravlin> no.
[05:34] <kravlin> wols: no.
[05:34] <wols> zed__: do you mean update-pciids to make less devices "unknown"
[05:34] <wols> kravlin: try it then?
[05:34] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, nvidia MCP51
[05:34] <righteous> n2siy
[05:34] <kravlin> will do.
[05:34] <wols> kravlin: SATA is first in BIOS right?
[05:34] <righteous> n2diy im talking to you
[05:34] <adcurtin> I have a shiny new MacBook Pro, and I'm trying to install feisty on it. When I boot the livecd in either normal mode or safe graphics mode, it spits out an error: "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" Does anyone have any idea on what I could do to fix this? (I've tried UbuntuStudio, and that works just fine, but I wasn't sure if I can install to a USB drive easily with a text-based installer)
[05:34] <zed__> YES!
[05:34] <kravlin> wols: its the first in the boot menu.
[05:35] <n2diy_> righteous: close, n2diy
[05:35] <llol> hello folks
[05:35] <mezziah> thanks for your help guys, i keep playing around with the .bashrc :)
[05:35] <wols> kravlin: I didn't ask about boot menu first. I asked about BIOS first
[05:35] <yo2k> righteous: see at line 20
[05:35] <righteous> yes?
[05:35] <righteous> yo2k
[05:35] <zed__> wols thanks, even after that i still can't see what the device is, any suggestions ?
[05:35] <kravlin> wols: it should be.
[05:35] <wols> zed__: paste tehe output
[05:35] <zed__> Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0843
[05:35] <Floog> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop. How would i get it connected to the internet by a 2wire homeportal router?
[05:35] <wols> kravlin: then why don't you do what I suggested?
[05:35] <yo2k> righteous: your hardware will detect, so you can setup it
[05:36] <kravlin> i will. Im downloading something right now and ill be done in about a minute.
[05:36] <righteous> yo2k how do i do that
[05:36] <kravlin> wols: ill try it then
[05:36] <righteous> yo2k i know nothing at all about linux i need a bit of theory and explaination with everything
[05:36] <wols> Floog: used windows before? if so, what was your IP there?
[05:36] <righteous> if you dont mind
[05:36] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, sata_nv should do it for you I think
[05:36] <elmo_> i'm looking for a linux driver for my minoltafax 2600 printer... googled ages.. anyone knows help?
[05:36] <Floog> Wols, not sure.
[05:37] <chrismurf> I'm not sure - I would suggest poking about on ubuntu forums to see if someone else had the same problem.
[05:37] <zed__>  wols that's all i get 09:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0843 (rev 12)
[05:37] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, sorry - good luck
[05:37] <yo2k> righteous: wait a moment...
[05:37] <wols> chrismurf: no. nforce chipsets > nf4 uses AHCI. check http://linux-ata.org/
[05:37] <righteous> thx
[05:37] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, well the information was at least helpful to know
[05:37] <slackmagic> zed__: using ubuntu I guess? Feisty?
[05:37] <righteous> please pm me yo2k
[05:37] <Floog> wols, I don't remember my ip from before.
[05:37] <yo2k> righteous: have you a manual of your hardware ?
[05:37] <chrismurf> ah - wols thanks for the correction
[05:37] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, you see that?
[05:38] <zed__> slackmagic, yes
[05:38] <righteous> yes
[05:38] <righteous> yo2k
[05:38] <stonerrob420> im fixing to wipe my drive and install knoppix.........with my grub/MBR screwed up its useless the drive permissions are locked and wont mount
[05:38] <wols> Floog: lspci -vv. tell me the full PCI ID 1234:0843
[05:38] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, yeah ill check it out
[05:38] <vivi_> how to configure the nvivida
[05:38] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, good luck
[05:38] <wols> !nvidia | vivi_
[05:38] <ubotu> vivi_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <slackmagic> zed__: it's possible that you need to update your lspci-database before you can get more information on what type of device you have
[05:38] <mezziah> um.. somehow some lines in .bashrc look like randomly produced charakters.. like you bang with your head on the keyboard and tada, code.. *tries to figure out*
[05:38] <wols> chrismurf: there shouldn't be any problem with the hdd Oni-Dracula. feisty should recognize it without a problem
[05:39] <mezziah> characters*
[05:39] <Floog> wols, sorry... not sure what that means...
[05:39] <wols> chrismurf: dmesg | grep sda
[05:39] <vivi_> ok ,thanks
[05:39] <yo2k> righteous: find how to setup, ( all of wifi have ip default so can setup under web )
[05:39] <Oni-Dracula> wols, okiedokie...ill double check the connections and stupid shit like that that I'm likely to do
[05:39] <wols> Floog: lspci -vv. paste the output in a pastebin
[05:39] <slackmagic> zed__: meaning you have to download the   http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids  file
[05:39] <n2diy_> stonerrob420: why load knoppix? Just reload Ubuntu.
[05:39] <wols> Oni-Dracula: does the BIOS recognize it? if yes, the connections are ok
[05:39] <zed__> slackmagic, update-pciids ?
[05:40] <slackmagic> zed__: and before you do that you are advised to back up your old/current one
[05:41] <wols> slackmagic: he already ran update-pciids
[05:41] <slackmagic> zed__: not that it will really make a difference because that database is being updated daily with new devices, but it sure won't hurt to back it up
[05:41] <zed__> yea
[05:41] <zed__> i already did
[05:41] <tyler_d> dvd ripping software?
[05:41] <mezziah> YAY, i found the lines who are responsible for that man behaviour
[05:41] <wols> !dvd | tyler_d
[05:41] <righteous> yo2k i dont understand
[05:41] <ubotu> tyler_d: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:41] <Floog> wols : where am I supposed to put lspci -w? I'm a complete linux noob.
[05:41] <mezziah> er, which*
[05:41] <zed__> ok well i used logic and figured it out, it's the built in webcam
[05:41] <wols> Floog: lspci -vv
[05:41] <n2diy_> tyler_d: k3b
[05:41] <amicrawler> hey guys is there a issue on sentding mail under kmail  with pop accounts
[05:41] <wols> two v's
[05:41] <righteous> yo2k how can i set up and what do i set up, it cant pull and ip
[05:41] <stonerrob420> reload? lol? im on dial up it took me months to update and build it the way i wanted too
[05:41] <wols> paste | Floog
[05:41] <tyler_d> n2diy_: ty
[05:42] <Floog> lspci -w
[05:42] <righteous> yo2k it cant find anything
[05:42] <wols> stonerrob420: reinstall grub. if your partition table is shot (also iin the MBR) then you need to reinstall
[05:42] <wols> !grub | stonerrob420
[05:42] <ubotu> stonerrob420: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:42] <yo2k> righteous: actualy all wifi in 192.168.1.xxx, you can try ping 1 by 1 or use scaner ip
[05:43] <wols> yo2k: you are talking gibberish
[05:43] <Floog> wols Do I type that in the terminal on my ubuntu?
[05:43] <Oni-Dracula> wols, chrismurf - thanks for all your help, but alas, I am a fool.  The drive wasn't connected *doh*
[05:43] <wols> yo2k: he needs a driver for his wifi card
[05:43] <wastedfluid> greg_g; You still there?
[05:43] <wols> Floog: yes
[05:43] <yo2k> wols: that wifi will detect right?
[05:43] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, soo... it wasn't actually working in BIOS ;-)
[05:43] <wols> yo2k: no
[05:43] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, careful what ye claim ;-)
[05:43] <wols> yo2k: his wifi is not detected or so he said
[05:43] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, it's been a looooong day
[05:43] <chrismurf> Oni-Dracula, no worries - good luck.
[05:44] <Oni-Dracula> chrismurf, ty
[05:44] <yo2k> wols: at pastebin, line 20, detect but not configured, i think...
[05:44] <wols> yo2k: fyi if you have a wroking driver, iwlist, iwspy, etc from wireless tools will do it. no setting IPs manally and check...
[05:44] <Floog> wols Says invalid option and a list of commands
[05:44] <wols> yo2k: it's a lspci output. doesn't say anything about drivers
[05:45] <yo2k> wols: ooo... really sorry...
[05:45] <righteous> kiwi cant find anything
[05:45] <righteous> whatever im going to bed
[05:45] <wols> Floog: lspci -vv
[05:45] <righteous> ill try again tomorrow
[05:45] <stonerrob421> anybody got any ideas on how to mount the hdc1 where i could fix my drive?
[05:45] <wastedfluid> Anyone ever have problems getting a swap file to auto mount after deleting/re-creating it?  Dapper drake; it's listed in my fstab, and /sbin/mkswap will mount it.  swapon -a will not.
[05:45] <wols> stonerrob420: I told you
[05:45] <yo2k> righteous: really sorry...
[05:46] <stonerrob421> ive got a copy of my menu.1st file backed up on the HD but no way to mount to restore it
[05:46] <wols> wastedfluid: what did swapon -a say?
[05:46] <TaJMoX> stonerrob421 - boot from the live cd
[05:46] <Floog> wols: bash: lspci-w: command not found that is what it says
[05:46] <wols> stonerrob420: I gave you a factoid about grub. you need to reinstall grub
[05:46] <stonerrob421> i did but ididnt work
[05:46] <wastedfluid> wols; I have to reboot to find out
[05:46] <Bogaurd> what's the name of the webmin package for feisty?
[05:46] <wastedfluid> wols; do you know of a way to unmount a swap?
[05:47] <wols> Floog: a) I epxlicitly told you 2 v's. NO w. I also had a space between lspci and the -
[05:47] <Naisenu> uhm whilst playing around with getting my NTFS drive to work, i appear to have lost support for my sound card -- yet i have done nothing to touch it
[05:47] <n2diy_> wastedfluid: why would you want to unmount /swap?
[05:47] <TaJMoX> stonerrob421 then you are not providing enough information
[05:47] <wols> wastedfluid: man swapoff
[05:47] <Floog> wols sorry looked like a w not vv on my screen
[05:47] <wastedfluid> n2diy_;  to try to paste what swapon says.
[05:47] <dbzdeath[lappy] > i just added myself to a group how do i update that change without logging out?
[05:47] <wols> dbzdeath[lappy] : you don't
[05:47] <stonerrob421> what dod you need to know and ill try my best to provide it
[05:48] <stonerrob421> do*
[05:48] <Naisenu> Error message double-clicking the icon ish: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[05:48] <nrdb> Is there anyone here able to test a very simple 15 line C program for me, on a MACOS X ?
[05:48] <n2diy_> wastedfluid: ah, ok, wols told you how.
[05:48] <wols> dbzdeath[lappy] : groups refresh only on login/lgout
[05:48] <Iberian_Lynx> i have ubuntu installed on vmware player. i've installed kaffeine on ubuntu, but everytime i try to play a file on kafeine, my X restarts. is it because i'm running ubuntu on vmware?
[05:48] <dbzdeath[lappy] > wols: bummer... are you sure there is no other way?
[05:48] <wols> nrdb: wrong channel
[05:48] <tyler_d> my dvd burner has dissapeared from my system... but I have 2 of my removable harddrives(same one) (usb drive)?
[05:48] <wastedfluid> wols: well, swapon -a mounts it now.  but if I reboot, it won't.  Let me reboot and grab the error message for you.
[05:48] <nrdb> wols: just asking don't know anyone with one.
[05:49] <TaJMoX> stonerrob421 - first of all - WHY won't it mount?  there must be some kind of error.   Secon, what are you trying to fix?
[05:49] <Floog> wols: Okay now there is a bunch of stuff on the screen, what should i look for/
[05:49] <wols> nrdb: it's still OT in here. ask #C or #osx or whatever. tho running foreign programs from itc is s dumb thing to do
[05:49] <wols> Floog: paste it
[05:49] <wols> Floog: in a pastebin
[05:50] <wols> TaJMoX: he has a broken MBR but ignores my grub howto I pasted the url for
[05:50] <Floog> wols: what is a pastebin?
[05:50] <wols> !paste | Floog
[05:50] <ubotu> Floog: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <vivi_> excuse me ,where can i download the languige package for opera9.2?
[05:50] <n2diy_> ! pastebin | Floog
[05:50] <oipat> What sorts of Wireless encryption does ubuntu support? ..or dont support.
[05:50] <wols> vivi_: ask opera.com
[05:50] <nrdb> wols: it very simple only uses 3 standard functions 4 if you include printf.
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> vivi_: the language package?
[05:50] <wols> oipat: it supports both
[05:51] <wols> nrdb: it's a foreign binary which means unless whoever runs it also compiles it himself from source, it could be a trojan. now please stop it's OT
[05:51] <vivi_> yes the language package for chinese
[05:51] <tyler_d> reading.... its a new kernel issue..... perfect...
[05:51] <wols> !opera
[05:51] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:51] <adcurtin> Is HFS+ a kernel madule in the feisty live cd, or is it compiled into the kernel?
[05:52] <stonerrob421> tajmox....give me just a few minutes let me reboot into the ubuntu dapper live cd and ill try to explain the best i can......im running off of knoppix 5.1 live cd now...ill be back in 5 min
[05:52] <oipat> wols: I'm mildly retarded when it comes to networking. I encountered a problem while at work, the wireless admin-guy told me that the current setup was using "Key Index 2" or something, and he didn't know how to activate that on linux. How can I resolv that ?
[05:52] <TaJMoX> i wont be here but try by yourself - i never needed any grub help and have had lots of problems with it
[05:52] <vivi_> i have choose the Chinese option ,but the GUI of opera is still for english ?
[05:52] <wols> oipat: WEP?
[05:53] <TaJMoX> the next question someone asks my answer is going to be: Google.com
[05:53] <Naisenu> Anyone know how I can get my sound card back.... I was working with groups and trying to get my NTFS drive read/writable and now I don't have sound.
[05:53] <oipat> wols: I guess so, that was ubuntu 6.06 btw. using fiesty now..
[05:53] <stonerrob421> ive worked on it for 3 days look at my post @ ubuntuforums.org
[05:53] <wols> Naisenu: are you in group audio?
[05:53] <n2diy_> TaJMoX: what would we learn from that answer? :)
[05:53] <vmbrussel> Anybody have some recommendations for alternatives to godaddy for domain name registration? Something more linux friendly.
[05:53] <TaJMoX> vivi_ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=UYD&q=opera+language&btnG=Search
[05:53] <Naisenu> wols: How can I find out if I am or not?
[05:53] <metbsd> i'm downloading kubuntu dvd
[05:53] <wastedfluid> wols: swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument
[05:54] <yo2k> wastedfluid: df
[05:54] <wols> oipat: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools. it's either a setting in /etc/interfaces where you can speciry it all or gnome network manager can do it too in which case I dunno how
[05:54] <TaJMoX> naisenu : cat /etc/group
[05:54] <wastedfluid> yo2k; : ?
[05:54] <wols> wastedfluid: fdisk -l
[05:54] <Naisenu> uhm and my "Administration" section is a whole lot shorter than it should be
[05:54] <wastedfluid> wols: /dev/hda5           11923       12161     1919736   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[05:54] <wols> Naisenu: groups
[05:54] <TaJMoX> wols : fdisk -l needs sudo
[05:54] <oipat> wols: Ok, thanks. I'll look into that.
[05:55] <n2diy_> wastedfluid: yo2k, df -h is friendlier.
[05:55] <Naisenu> hrm i do not appear to be a part of group audio
[05:55] <wols> wastedfluid: ls -al /dev/hda5
[05:55] <slackmagic> vmbrussel: define linux friendly, all you do it purchase the domain, set up the nameservers, probably change some details about your whereabouts, and that's pretty much it :P
[05:55] <Jamie_Waterloo> QQ: I plan to build a Ubuntu server to host my webserver, and also handle bittorrents. The server will include storage for my downloads, photos, etc. What's the best way for my family Windows XP computer to access the server? I almost wish there was a way to turn the server into a virtual SAN for storage if it's possible.
[05:55] <wols> n2diy_: df -h only shows what's mounted. his problem is he cannot mount...
[05:56] <wastedfluid> wols:  /dev/hda5           11923       12161     1919736   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[05:56] <wastedfluid>  <-- is my fdisk -l for hda5.
[05:56] <wols> Jamie_Waterloo: samba
[05:56] <wastedfluid> wols: if I /sbin/mkswap, it will "mount" - but I can never get swapon -a to work.
[05:56] <wols> wastedfluid: I asked you something
[05:56] <stonerrob421> be bcak in a few mins
[05:56] <wastedfluid> wols: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 5 2007-06-20 19:49 /dev/hda5
[05:56] <vmbrussel> slackmagic, the ceo of godaddy for the longest time refused to allow access to the site via any other browser besides IE. He's anti linux
[05:56] <n2diy_> wols: doesn't df do the same thing? maybe df -a is what he is after?
[05:56] <slackmagic> vmbrussel: and I personally use http://onedomainplace.com/   but then again I haven't looked around for cheaper places for a long time..it works fine for me so i never bothered to look elsewhere
[05:57] <Iberian_Lynx> i have Ubuntu installed on vmware player. i've installed kaffeine on ubuntu, but everytime i try to play a file on kafeine, my X restarts. is it because i'm running Ubuntu on vmware?
[05:57] <wols> n2diy_: no. I told you: only mounted filesystems. his problem is it doesn't mount
[05:57] <Naisenu> if it helps here is the output of the "cat /etc/group": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26544/
[05:57] <vmbrussel> slackmagic, I'll check it out. how much are you paying with them?
[05:57] <TaJMoX> iberian_lynx you will have to check the log files to see why it crashes
[05:57] <Naisenu> how do i re-add myself to said group?
[05:57] <Iberian_Lynx> TaJMoX, where is X's log file?
[05:57] <slackmagic> vmbrussel: 8.95 - 7.95 depending on the timespan you're paying for
[05:58] <wols> Naisenu: are your chris or kate?
[05:58] <vmbrussel> slackmagic, that's a good price
[05:58] <Naisenu> neither
[05:58] <Naisenu> carissa
[05:58] <TaJMoX> iberian_Lynx : /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:58] <Rober1> Hello i need help with my video card settings, i have a Nvidia TNT2 32MB video card which im unable to get OpenGL working with Ubuntu
[05:58] <Iberian_Lynx> thank you TaJMoX
[05:58] <Rober1> can some one help me with this please.
[05:58] <slackmagic> vmbrussel: yep i know :P I looked around a lot back then when I purchased my first domain..and ever since it's always been onedomainplace.com
[05:58] <Floog> ! pastebin
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <n2diy_> wols: ok, I must have got my threads crossed, I thought you told him to use df.
[05:59] <wastedfluid>  wols: did you get that last line?
[06:00] <vivi_> thanks ,i have solve the problem
[06:00] <wols> wastedfluid: yes. and since it's there I dunno why swapon says that
[06:00] <TaJMoX> i told you my google method would work
[06:00] <Floog> wols http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26546/plain/ there is what was on the screen
[06:01] <wastedfluid> wols; /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0 <-- does that look correct for fstab?
[06:01] <firebird619> I have a SB Live 5.1 Digital sound card (Dell) and a 4.1 digital speaker system. I only get sound from the front speakers. I have tried different entries in the ~/.asoundrc file that I came across on the Internet, but none of them helped. What can I do to fix this issue?
[06:01] <wols> Floog: there is nothing by rich...
[06:01] <wols> Floog: *ricoh
[06:01] <Rober1> Hello i need help with my video card settings, i have a Nvidia TNT2 32MB video card which im unable to get OpenGL working with Ubuntu
[06:01] <kravlin> wols: It doesn't even show the non-latin characters anymore.
[06:02] <TaJMoX> slackmagic : everything i've learned about linux was thanks to google.   and before google, there was webcrawler.     anyways, the answer is always out there already if you know how to search.
[06:02] <Floog> wols whats ricoh?
[06:02] <wols> flug: shit. I took you for someone else. very sorry
[06:02] <wols> flug: what is your IP in windows? when you use the router in windows?
[06:02] <n2diy_> kravlin: nine edge down?
[06:03] <wols> flug: e.g. do you use PPPoE?
[06:03] <kravlin> n2diy_ Huh?
[06:03] <wols> Floog: do you use PPPOE? what is your IP when in windows?
[06:03] <wols> kravlin: did it work?
[06:03] <slackmagic> TaJMoX: amen ..the problem is that - I'm not saying everyone - but quite a lot of people just keep coming here for all sorts of questions..questions they could find answers for by themselves if they took the efforts...I personally think you learn more by trying to search for an answer rather than just asking for one (besides..it improves your searching skills via google as well)
[06:03] <Jason_P> I need help. I put the ubuntu CD in. The desktop loads. I click install. I choose my language, and then I choose my time zone and im completely stuck from there. How do I go on?
[06:03] <Rober1> hellooo
[06:03] <kravlin> wols: Nope. It just removed those non-latin characters. it now returns nothing.
[06:04] <yo2k> Jason_P: restart your pc
[06:04] <n2diy_> kravlin: your sign of line, about how T.J. Watson was buried? A: nine edge down?
[06:04] <Rober1> i would appreciate some attention
[06:04] <wols> slackmagic: just say it like it is: most people coming here are very lazy who want us to do their work
[06:04] <Jason_P> and when i restart my PC, what is suppose to happen?
[06:04] <slackmagic> wols: I didn't say that :D
[06:04] <kravlin> n2diy_ You must be thinking of someone else.
[06:04] <Kprofthreat> Can I get someone's assistance? I'm having a sound issue with Kubuntu 7.04 Everything on ALSA, checked alsamixer, speakers ARE plugged in, don't ask, and I even tried compiling a new driver. I AM using an audigy soundcard. Any suggestions?
[06:04] <Floog3> wols: not sure what PPPoE is... how do i check my ip?
[06:04] <Naisenu> How do I readd myself to multiple groups?
[06:04] <yo2k> Floog: sudo ipconfig
[06:04] <yo2k> Floog: sudo ifconfig
[06:04] <wols> Floog3: in windows: ipconfig. PPPOE means a network connection with username and password
[06:05] <kravlin> wols: I did however change the boot order of the disks in my BIOS and the windows partition boots fine.
[06:05] <Flannel> Naisenu: usermod -G [group1,group2,group3]  -a username (DONT forget the -a)
[06:05] <metbsd> ppp on ethernet
[06:05] <wols> Floog3: he asks about windows.... his problem is he can't get his 2wire router/modem to work in ubunut... I doubt he's in ubunut right now...
[06:05] <kravlin> so why don't i just point grub to the start of the disk?
[06:05] <Naisenu> Flannel, do the groups have to be in the square brackets?
[06:05] <n2diy_> kravlin: yep, sorry.
[06:05] <Flannel> Naisenu: no, group1,group2,group3
[06:05] <Jason_P> yo2k: after I restart my PC, what do I do?
[06:05] <wols> kravlin: you can
[06:06] <wols> kravlin: (hdX)
[06:06] <Naisenu> Flannel, ty for the clarification
[06:06] <TaJMoX> slackmagic : irc support should be used for quick problems - or as a last resort - like for example: "What's the command to do x"  or  "I have looked everywhere, how do I get x to work with y?"
[06:06] <confusedrandomne> wols: why configure on windows?.. shouldnt config be done via web interface on the 2wire box?
[06:06] <n2diy_> Floog: nine edge down?
[06:06] <yo2k> Floog: you can start a new os now...
[06:06] <kravlin> wols: yeah. Will that cause any major problems?
[06:06] <stonerrob420> ok im back
[06:06] <yo2k> Jason_P: you can start a new os now...
[06:06] <stonerrob420> and booted from dapper live cd
[06:06] <wols> confusedrandomne: he cannot get on the net via ubuntu.. if he could access the box, je wouldn't be here I'd say
[06:06] <Jason_P> yo2k: Do I take the CD out after restart?
[06:06] <TaJMoX> not something like "I need vmware server to connect to my Mac server and then share files with my windows computers, how do I do this?"
[06:06] <nickrud> kravlin, have you tried the map command
[06:07] <kravlin> nickrud: map command?
[06:07] <yo2k> Jason_P: yup
[06:07] <wols> kravlin: no. but windows won't put a boot record in that palce. I'd say you won't gain anything
[06:07] <Floog3> wols: my ip in windows is 172.16.1.34
[06:07] <slackmagic> TaJMoX: that's how I mainly use IRC...for stuff I have no answers for really, after I've done quite an amount of time of research ..other than that it's just for entertainment to sit back and read what type of problems other people are dealing with here
[06:07] <sluimers> can someone help me with printers?
[06:07] <Jason_P> ok thanks.
[06:07] <yo2k> Jason_P: ok...
[06:07] <sluimers> I don't know how to reach one.
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> !cups | sluimers
[06:07] <ubotu> sluimers: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:07] <confusedrandomne> wols: sorry havent been following that thread closely.. anw for Floog3, check if your ip address configuration is dhcp or static
[06:07] <wols> Floog3: then ubuntu should "just work"
[06:07] <Kprofthreat> Can I get someone's assistance? I'm having a sound issue with Kubuntu 7.04 Everything on ALSA, checked alsamixer, speakers ARE plugged in, don't ask, and I even tried compiling a new driver. I AM using an audigy soundcard. Any suggestions?
[06:07] <wols> what is the problem you get?
[06:07] <Talaman72> hey what is the get command besides apt-get?
[06:07] <Rober1> Hello i need help with my video card settings, i have a Nvidia TNT2 32MB video card which im unable to get OpenGL working with Ubuntu
[06:07] <kravlin> wols: i thought that the MBR was stored at the beginning of the disk.
[06:08] <crimsun> Kprofthreat: what's the issue?
[06:08] <TaJMoX> Talaman72 - aptitude     the gui is synaptic
[06:08] <Floog3> confusedrandomne its static
[06:08] <vivi_> why i can not write in the /usr doucument
[06:08] <wols> Floog3: are you using WLAN or wired with your router?
[06:08] <stonerrob420> ok how can i mount my HD and be able to to fix the grub/menu.1st
[06:08] <nickrud> kravlin, I've been looking at grub-doc (I needed a refresher) and it mentions that chainloaded operating systems sometimes need to be fooled: try map (hd0) (hd1)  and map (hd1) (hd0) on the grub command line
[06:08] <yo2k> vivi_: what do you write ?
[06:08] <kravlin> nickrud: will do
[06:08] <mcknin> If I already have php/gd installed, how do I install freetype/truetype support for php?
[06:08] <Floog3> wols wired, I switch it between the computer I'm on now and the laptop.
[06:08] <TaJMoX> vivi_ it is protected by the super user.
[06:08] <wols> Floog3: the internet IP might be static but not what the router assigns you
[06:09] <vivi_> a text file to the /usr
[06:09] <Flannel> nickrud, kravlin, just add them to your menu.lst, before the root, and use the old root (as if you hadn't mapped them), if I remember correctly.
[06:09] <wols> Floog3: /sbin/ifconfig on the laptop then
[06:09] <vivi_> TajMox;
[06:09] <Naisenu> Flannel, that didn't work
[06:09] <yo2k> vivi_: sudo gedit filename
[06:09] <TaJMoX> vivi_ usr contains your program files - which you dont usually modify.   if you need to modify a text file in the /usr directory use "sudo <command>"
[06:09] <confusedrandomne> Floog3: can you access the web gui on the 2wire?
[06:09] <nickrud> kravlin, keep up with Flannel  :)
[06:09] <Flannel> Naisenu: What error did it give?
[06:09] <Floog3> confusedrandomne Probly, how would I do that/
[06:09] <Naisenu> It didn't give an error. It just didn't do anything.
[06:09] <OrgulloKmoore> How can I install layouts?
[06:10] <Floog3> wols the laptop is the ubuntu
[06:10] <Flannel> Naisenu: What group are you trying to add yourself to?
[06:10] <Kprofthreat> /w crimsun Oh, I was told to ask you actually.
[06:10] <OrgulloKmoore> keyboard layouts, that is
[06:10] <wols> Floog3: use ifcon fig on the laptop and we can tell you
[06:10] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, keyboard layouts?
[06:10] <confusedrandomne> Floog3: try http://ADDRRESS OF DEFAULT GATEWAY
[06:10] <wols> Floog3: I know what OS the laptop runs
[06:10] <n2diy_> yo2k: gksudo gedit
[06:10] <OrgulloKmoore> I know how to normally, but it gives me no layouts to choose from
[06:10] <vivi_> i mean that i have a file on the desktop,then i want to move it to the /usr
[06:10] <Naisenu> adm,dialout,fax,cdrom,floppy,tape,audio,dip,plugdev,scanner,admin,fuse
[06:10] <OrgulloKmoore> yes, NickPresta
[06:10] <Flannel> Naisenu: What groups are you currently in?
[06:10] <OrgulloKmoore> nickrud**
[06:10] <wols> OrgulloKmoore: consoloe-data IIRC
[06:10] <vivi_> how to do ?
[06:10] <Naisenu> Flannel, the ones I accidentally removed myself from :) (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26547/)
[06:10] <yo2k> n2diy_: what different? i new in ubuntu..
[06:10] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, system->prefs->keyboard tab layout
[06:11] <stonerrob420> what i was trying to do is a make this system a dual boot system from seperate HDs one was going to have knoppix 5.1 and the other ubuntu dapper i modified the grub but now the computer freezes before the grub menu comes up and cannot be mounted using a live cd....maybe im missing something
[06:11] <wols> vivi_: mv it as root
[06:11] <Naisenu> Flannel, FYI, I am "carissa"
[06:11] <TaJMoX> vivi_ why do you want to move it to /usr ?   /usr is for your program data.     sudo mv file1 /usr/file2
[06:11] <Flannel> Naisenu: eh, forgot the -a, hmm?  What does 'groups' give you?
[06:11] <n2diy_> ! gksudo | yo2k
[06:11] <ubotu> yo2k: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[06:11] <Flannel> Naisenu: that's much easier than catting a text file
[06:11] <stonerrob420> anybody got any ideas?
[06:11] <imbecile> hey guys, I thought beryl was in the repos for feisty.. I cant find it.. any idea why?
[06:11] <Naisenu> Flannel, I ran it as: sudo usermod -G adm,dialout,fax,cdrom,floppy,tape,audio,dip,plugdev,scanner,admin,fuse -a carissa
[06:11] <Flannel> Naisenu: what groups are you currently in?
[06:11] <yo2k> n2diy_: ok.... thank's...
[06:11] <vivi_> this file is a lng-package for the browser
[06:11] <wols> stonerrob420: if you can't mount it your partition table is probably shot. how maany partitions where on the disk?
[06:12] <wols> stonerrob420: and what is now on the disk?
[06:12] <Rober1> Hello i need help with my video card settings, i have a Nvidia TNT2 32MB video card which im unable to get OpenGL working with Ubuntu
[06:12] <OrgulloKmoore> nickrud> I know, but there are none to choose from. That list used to be full, but I recently reinstalled/upgraded to feisty in a very ghetto way...and now they're gone
[06:12] <n2diy_> yo2k:  nada
[06:12] <stonerrob420> ok give me a sec to look
[06:12] <wols> Rober1: nvidia-glx legacy
[06:12] <Naisenu> Flannel, Apparently only a group I was trying to create: "dutton"
[06:12] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, there's an add button
[06:12] <Rober1> did it already
[06:12] <Rober1> dosent work
[06:12] <Floog3> wols says I'm 169.254.6.76
[06:12] <Student> Anyone know what could be causing: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" erron on boot?
[06:12] <vivi_> and i should move it to the location of the software
[06:12] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, I watched that, it was extremely educational
[06:12] <OrgulloKmoore> yes I know, nickrud, but where there should be a long list of choices for me to add, there is nothing
[06:12] <Rober1> i dont know how to enable it
[06:12] <somedrew> imbecile beryl's in universe
[06:12] <wols> Floog3: sudo /etc/init.d/netwroking restart
[06:12] <OrgulloKmoore> you watched what?
[06:12] <marcus__> Am I the only one who noticed there is no irc client by default in ubuntu?
[06:13] <wols> Floog3: and: what interfaces do you have? names?
[06:13] <OrgulloKmoore> oh, the ghetto upgrade
[06:13] <OrgulloKmoore> heh
[06:13] <ali1234> marcus__: gaim/pidgin
[06:13] <kravlin> nickrud, Flannel, wols : here's a link to the configuration now.
[06:13] <Student> marcus__, Pidgin? Formely Gaim.
[06:13] <kravlin> http://pastebin.com/933143
[06:13] <imbecile> somedrew,  how do i enable universe repos?
[06:13] <slackmagic> Rober1:   glxinfo | grep direct
[06:13] <Flannel> Naisenu: Right.  Ok, since you're currenlty not in admin, you can't sudo.  So you'll need to reboot, (unless you have another user that has sudo privs), at GRUB, go to a "recovery mode", it'll be a root prompt, add your user to her groups, and you're good.
[06:13] <marcus__> ali1234: Never thought of GAIM as an IRC client. Thanks.
[06:13] <wols> kravlin: do NOT use pastebin.com. it's slooooooww
[06:13] <slackmagic> Rober1: what do you get from that?
[06:13] <slackmagic> Rober1: might want to pastebin it
[06:13] <Naisenu> Flannel, Yes i'll hop into hubby's account
[06:13] <sx66> does linux read and right fat 32?
[06:13] <kravlin> wols: where should i paste then?
[06:14] <wols> sx66: yes
[06:14] <wols> !paste | kravlin
[06:14] <ubotu> kravlin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <slackmagic> sx66: should be no problem
[06:14] <Floog3> wols Interfaces? Not sure what you mean.
[06:14] <wols> Floog3: paste the full ifconfig output
[06:14] <kravlin> wols: thanks.
[06:14] <yo2k> sx66: yes and your kernel must support it.
[06:14] <marcus__> Second question: Is there a way maybe in gconf-editor to change default icons or will I have to rebuild gnome?
[06:14] <stonerrob420> here ya go wols>>>> sudo fdisk -l terminal output >>>> Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[06:14] <stonerrob420> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[06:14] <stonerrob420> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:14] <stonerrob420>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:14] <stonerrob420> /dev/hdc1   *           1        9541    76638051   83  Linux
[06:14] <stonerrob420> /dev/hdc2            9542        9729     1510110    5  Extended
[06:14] <stonerrob420> /dev/hdc5            9542        9729     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:14] <kravlin> wols: do you want me to repaste that?
[06:14] <somedrew> imbecile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu post back if any problems
[06:14] <wols> kravlin: please
[06:14] <wols> stonerrob420: do NOT paste here!
[06:15] <sx66> slackmagic: what should the mount point be?
[06:15] <imbecile> somedrew,  thanks :)
[06:15] <wols> stonerrob420: and for the third time now:
[06:15] <wols> !grub | stonerrob420
[06:15] <ubotu> stonerrob420: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:15] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, do you have xkb-data installed?
[06:15] <stonerrob420> opps sorry everybody new to irc
[06:15] <somedrew> imbecile, no prob. That'll get you setup
[06:15] <Student> Anyone know the Ubuntu boot process really well? I need some expert level help.
[06:15] <slackmagic> sx66: the mount point can be anything you define with your mount command
[06:15] <wols> stonerrob420: you need to reinstall grub, and those urls tell you how
[06:15] <furenku> hello! does anybody know of a good tutorial or help files for Om synth?
[06:15] <slackmagic> sx66: most things go into /mnt ..lately a lot of things go into   /media/whatever
[06:15] <OrgulloKmoore> yes, nickrud
[06:15] <Planet-X> could someone please help me with ubuntu 7, i can't get vmware server to install
[06:15] <nickrud> ok, my last option
[06:15] <stonerrob420> ok thank you ill try
[06:15] <Planet-X> under add/remove programs it tells me it detects and older version and to uninstall it and i do that and then go forward and it errors
[06:16] <Planet-X> on like the first file
[06:16] <wols> sx66: ubuntu automatically mounts all partitions it finds when it installs
[06:16] <wols> !fat | sx66
[06:16] <ubotu> sx66: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:16] <OrgulloKmoore> nickrud> that was your last one or you've got one more?
[06:16] <marcus__> media mounts show up on the desktop unless you turn them off. pretty annoying
[06:16] <n2diy_> Planet-X: Ubuntu 7.xx?
[06:16] <kravlin> wols, Flannel, nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26549/ (better?)
[06:16] <Planet-X> yeah
[06:16] <Planet-X> .04 or whatever
[06:16] <wols> Planet-X: paste teh full error output
[06:16] <Planet-X> k
[06:16] <wols> kravlin: much
[06:17] <nickrud> OrgulloKmoore, no, my last one. I've been away from this for nearly a year, and have forgotten a lot of what I knew, and a lot of what I remember is no longer true ;(
[06:17] <sx66> wols: yes, I have some choices: I am trying to cut my ext3 to a fat32 1gb partition perhaps 2 gb for backup...how would I do that?
[06:17] <wols> kravlin: did you add your sdb and since then it's not working anymore?
[06:17] <n2diy_> Planet-X: Whatever makes a difference, 7.10 is alpha, 7.04 is supported.
[06:17] <Floog3> wols http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26550/plain/
[06:17] <kravlin> did i add my sdb? no.
[06:17] <Flannel> kravlin: your root needs to be a partition, not a drive (hd0,0)
[06:17] <Student> Aside from bad fstab and menu.lst entries, what else could be causing "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"?
[06:17] <Planet-X> first thing when configuring vmware-server it says "A previous installion ... has been detected" etc. and it says to run vmware-uninstall.pl before proceeding, i did that and they say "looks like someone already did this already to all the files to remove"
[06:17] <DrkCodeman> where is a good place to get acentiso2 compatable for ubuntu?
[06:17] <OrgulloKmoore> well apparently I'm not the only one with this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkeyboard/+bug/38905
[06:17] <Planet-X> "if it was installed through Ubuntu, you must purge the old package."
[06:17] <DrkCodeman> i tried installing it without luck
[06:18] <Planet-X> and if i go ahead and go forward
[06:18] <Planet-X> it says
[06:18] <sx66> wols: do I partition the ntfs to a fat32 (two gb)?
[06:18] <Planet-X> Not all changes and updates succeeded. For further details etc...
[06:18] <nickrud> kravlin, looks ok. Assuming the docs are right of course
[06:18] <Planet-X> An error occurred
[06:18] <_Ahti> How can i find out how much bandwidth i've used per day/week/month?
[06:19] <DrkCodeman> hmm how do i install a debian package and auto install dependancies?
[06:19] <Planet-X> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-server_1.0.3-1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:19] <kravlin> nickrud: The hard drive is hda.
[06:19] <wols> sx66: yes. and fomrat it and then change yout fstab accordingly
[06:19] <ivanAlvarez> any goo pages to download icons?
[06:19] <freeagy> hi
[06:19] <n2diy_> _Ahti: if you are on dial up, kppp can be set up to do that.
[06:19] <yo2k> _Ahti: use mrtg
[06:19] <_Ahti> ivanAlvarez: gnome-look.org
[06:19] <Planet-X> that is all, then it takes the checkbox i checked and unchecks it for VMware Server.. :(
[06:19] <wols> 06:18 < Planet-X> "if it was installed through Ubuntu, you must purge the old package."
[06:19] <nickrud> kravlin, Flannel caught that, (hd1,0)
[06:19] <wols> Planet-X: do what it says
[06:19] <_Ahti> n2diy_: Nope, broadband
[06:19] <Planet-X> not sure
[06:19] <freeagy> i m install (synsptic) xchat-xsys and
[06:19] <Planet-X> rm -rf /etc/vmware ?
[06:19] <_Ahti> yo2k: Cheers, i'll check that ou
[06:19] <arooni> what is a good WWSIWYG html editor ?
[06:19] <Floog3> wols http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26550/plain/ here is the ifconfig output
[06:19] <arooni> and how can i install it
[06:20] <n2diy_> _Ahti: GL
[06:20] <kravlin> ok.
[06:20] <freeagy> type the commands and do nothin
[06:20] <wols> Floog3: your network card won't get a dhcp lease. those DHCPOFFER thingies...
[06:20] <Flannel> kravlin: hda is hd0,X, where X is your partition (remember, zero index unlike linux)
[06:20] <Student> I guess after 6 months, I'm forced back to windows.....crap.
[06:20] <Flannel> kravlin: er, hda is hd0 unless you're mixing SATA and IDE, in which case it could be hd0, or ould be something else
[06:20] <Planet-X> not really sure what to do to satisfy that wols
[06:20] <Plantain> What's a tool to thrash my CPU for a couple of hours with?
[06:20] <wols> kravlin: sda is hd0, sdb is hd1, hda is hd2
[06:20] <kravlin> Flannel: Im mixing those yes.
[06:20] <wols> Planet-X: apt-get remove --purge
[06:20] <ivanAlvarez> _Ahti: yes, but i didnt like any i liked any other suggestions?
[06:20] <wols> Planet-X: stress
[06:21] <Flannel> kravlin: How many SATA drives do you have?  And which does your BIOS see first?
[06:21] <Floog3> wols so... that means?
[06:21] <wols> Floog3: his ubuntu is sda and it boots in grub as hd0
[06:21] <Planet-X> wols: stress what
[06:21] <wols> Floog3: cable for example
[06:21] <_Ahti> ivanAlvarez: Yep, deviantart.com
[06:21] <Planet-X> i just installed it fyi
[06:21] <ivanAlvarez> _Ahti: ok thanks
[06:21] <kravlin> I have 1 sata drive, 1 Ide drive. I'm not sure how to check if it is found first but it is first on the list of hard drives.
[06:21] <wols> Plantain: stress
[06:21] <wols> Planet-X: ignore the stress one
[06:21] <Plantain> yeah
[06:22] <Planet-X> sry
[06:22] <Planet-X> but
[06:22] <Planet-X> apt-get remove --purge does nothing
[06:22] <kravlin> flannel: and yes. i can reorder them.
[06:22] <Planet-X> 0 up, 0 installed, 0 remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:22] <freeagy> hi. i m install (synsptic) xchat-xsys and type the commands and, do nothin.
[06:22] <freeagy> please help
[06:22] <wols> Planet-X: man apt-get
[06:22] <n2diy_> Plaintian: Check out the SETI project, they'll use as much of your CPU as your willing to let them.
[06:22] <Flannel> kravlin: alright, well, it's not hrad to test.  One of those will be hd0, and the other will be hd1.  (depending on your BIOS).  Doesn't really matter which is which
[06:22] <Floog3> wols Whats it mean that my network card won't get a dhcp lease?
[06:22] <wols> freeagy: use apt-get then
[06:23] <Student> *Grabs puppy - Help me, or else.
[06:23] <wols> freeagy: it tries to get a IP from the router and the router won't give it one
[06:23] <Planet-X> wols?
[06:23] <kravlin> Flannel: the Sata one must be hd0 because i'm able to run linux off it.
[06:23] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm able to add another layout under gnome...but not kde
[06:23] <OrgulloKmoore> so weird!
[06:23] <wols> Planet-X: read the documentation for apt-get to see how to use it. I told you the command you need
[06:23] <sx66> w00t, 15 minute INSTALL OF LINUX
[06:23] <freeagy> apt-get install xchat-xsys?
[06:23] <Planet-X> wols
[06:23] <Planet-X> i did the command u said
[06:23] <wols> freeagy: yes
[06:23] <Planet-X> and i know how to use apt-get
[06:24] <Flannel> kravlin: eh?  Linux doesn't care which harddrive it's on.
[06:24] <freeagy> ill try
[06:24] <Naisenu> Yays. The sound issue and groups issue is fixed. Now one last thing, and I'm happy. I created a group called "dutton" with myself and another user in it. I want this group to have read/write access to my NTFS drive at /media/hdb1 (currently it's root only). I have installed and run the ntfs-config and ntfs-3g packages.
[06:24] <Planet-X> it came back and said 0 to do
[06:24] <wols> Planet-X: if you knew, you knew how to use the command I told you about. as you obviously don't: read the docs. you need them
[06:24] <sx66> w000t
[06:24] <sx66> ;D
[06:24] <sx66> ;-D
[06:25] <Planet-X> wols: apt-get remove vmware* --purge
[06:25] <Planet-X> ?
[06:25] <kravlin> flannel: Im in menu.lst and the option to get into linux's root is (hd0,0)
[06:25] <sx66> ummmmmmm
[06:25] <wols> Planet-X: since when does apt-get wildcards?
[06:25] <_Ahti> Planet-X: No, run apt-get remove --purge vmware*
[06:25] <Flannel> kravlin: alright, then that's hd0.  The other one is hd1
[06:25] <Planet-X> just did
[06:25] <slackmagic> sx66: i'd be happy if i could compile mplayer from source within 15 minutes on my 6 year old POS P4 1.3 ghz with 512 RDram :(
[06:25] <Naisenu> Do I need to chmod or chown on the /media/hdb1 -- and I know squat about the numbers to make it read/write.
[06:25] <freeagy> wois      E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)    kill xchat if its runing?
[06:25] <Student> *Holds puppy over aligator pit - I will do it!!
[06:25] <Planet-X> E: couldn't find package vmware*
[06:25] <NForc3r> how do i uninstall wine?
[06:26] <Flannel> NForc3r: how did you install it?
[06:26] <_Ahti> Planet-X: You haven't got it installed then
[06:26] <lvlint67> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:26] <NForc3r> apt-get
[06:26] <wols> Naisenu: no. you need the proper mount options when you mount it. paste your mount commandline or fstab line
[06:26] <Planet-X> aha
[06:26] <lvlint67> apt get remove wine*
[06:26] <kravlin> Flannel: So i should use a root of (hd0,0) after remapping the drives?
[06:26] <NForc3r> ohk
[06:26] <wols> freeagy: you are not root. use sudo
[06:26] <Flannel> NForc3r: then `sudo apt-get remove --purge wine`
[06:26] <Planet-X> still getting the same error
[06:26] <Naisenu> wols: I need a bit more information on how to get to these lines to paste them for you.
[06:26] <Planet-X> fuck it
[06:26] <wols> kravlin: yes
[06:26] <sx66> why doesnt su work in the terminal...
[06:26] <Planet-X> i will have to find another vm software to install or fix this
[06:26] <Planet-X> l8r thx for your help wols
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Planet-X
[06:26] <wols> Planet-X: dpkg -l | grep vmware
[06:26] <ubotu> Planet-X: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:27] <Student> sx66, Use sudo.
[06:27] <_Ahti> Planet-X: What was your issue?
[06:27] <sx66> eh
[06:27] <freeagy> wols  i m use sudo
[06:27] <wols> !root | sx66
[06:27] <ubotu> sx66: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:27] <Flannel> kravlin: no.  That only remaps them for the OS (windows), you still reference it as hd1,0
[06:27] <n2diy_> slackmagic: umm, you didn't sell me on helping you, I'm running a PII at 333 mhz, 256 m. of rame,  though it does have dual CPUs.
[06:27] <wols> freeagy: then close any other package management app like synaptic
[06:27] <kravlin> ok.
[06:27] <Planet-X> rc  vmware-player                              1.0.2-2                                Free virtual machine player from VMware
[06:27] <Planet-X> rc  vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16     2.6.20.5-16.28                         vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.
[06:27] <Planet-X> ii  vmware-server-kernel-modules               2.6.20.16.28.1                         vmware-server kernel module dependency packa
[06:27] <Planet-X> ii  vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16     2.6.20.5-16.28                         vmware-server modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.
[06:27] <kravlin> flannel: ok. got it.
[06:27] <Flannel> !paste | Planet-X
[06:27] <ubotu> Planet-X: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:27] <freeagy> wols yes i m a dummy :)
[06:27] <_Ahti> BAH! I've changed the frigging root password, nothing to it... i hate this sudo bs
[06:27] <Plantain> Is there anything that'll give me graphical monitoring of the CPU temp of my computer?
[06:27] <emman101> how can i copy the manual in the terminal?
[06:28] <wols> Planet-X: stop fscking up and read the apt-get docs. you really need them
[06:28] <sx66> 91%!
[06:28] <Student> *Grabs Planet-X over aligator pit - Okay, now help me, or I'll drop him.
[06:28] <Planet-X> kj
[06:28] <Planet-X> k
[06:28] <ivanAlvarez> Plantain: screenlets
[06:28] <TaJMoX> _Ahti in the long run it could save you big troubles
[06:28] <wols> Planet-X: lm-sensors and then stuff like gkrellm
[06:28] <slackmagic> n2diy_: yep most of my systems are old..this is my main system however with my lovely 22" lcd..but it works..has been for the past 4 years on slackware..so I can't complain
[06:28] <sx66> why is linux so fast to install?
[06:28] <Plantain> ivanAlvarez: Thanks.
[06:28] <ivanAlvarez> your welcome
[06:28] <_Ahti> Planet-X: You don't both vmware-player and vmware-server...
[06:28] <wols> Student: please do. better for the planet and the gators need food
[06:28] <sx66> ivanAlvarez: you're****
[06:28] <_Ahti> TaJMoX: Not if you know how to use root...
[06:28] <emman101> Plantain:  try system monitor in the system administration
[06:28] <TaJMoX> sx66 : it's programmed in the community - not in the cubicle
[06:28] <Student> wols, lol
[06:29] <sx66> TaJMoX: hey, remember me?
[06:29] <Plantain> emman101: I don't see temperature
[06:29] <Student> TaJMox, how did you to ttha *feels.....
[06:29] <n2diy_> slackmagic: fine business, my first impression was if that box is a POS, what is mine!? Of course, it is a POS too, but it still works. GL.
[06:29] <sx66> TaJMoX: I was the guy with the monitor
[06:29] <Naisenu> wols: Am I looking for the /etc/fstab file?
[06:29] <wols> Plantain: you need either lm-sensors or mbmon
[06:29] <TaJMoX> student : I am what I am
[06:29] <sx66> slackmagic: do you use slax?
[06:30] <wols> Naisenu: probably
[06:30] <imbecile> hey guys, Just wanted to say after months of running a dual boot with xp I have junked the xp and am now just using ubuntu.. thanks for all your hard work developing..
[06:30] <Plantain> wols: I've got lm-sensors, but it doesn't appear in Sys monitor
[06:30] <TaJMoX> sx66 : you have a monitor?
[06:30] <n2diy_> imbecile: welcome to the light side, congrats!!
[06:30] <Student> TaJMoX, How did you make it show that as a side comment - like *TaJMoX feels safe when....
[06:30] <wols> Plantain: have you configured it?
[06:30] <marcus__> do language channels translate to region codes in gnome?
[06:30] <slackmagic> sx66: occassionally I use it to boot up friend's systems with my usbstick that has all my settings..but i'm on slackware and am happy with it (slax is great though imho)
[06:30] <Plantain> wols: I believe so
[06:30] <sx66> imbecile: what do you use for your PDA if you have one...TajMox, the resolution issue
[06:30] <TaJMoX> Student : /me jumps for joy
[06:30] <wols> Student:  /me text
[06:31] <imbecile> sx66,  no pda
[06:31] <somedrew> Plaintain: there's a sensors-applet for gnome-panel that uses input from lm-sensors, it's in the repos
[06:31] <yo2k> wols: how to setup user color is different if he answer my ask ? ( use mirc under win, right now)
[06:31] <Naisenu> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26551/
[06:31] <wols> yo2k: english please
[06:31] <sx66> imbecile: okay, then .... ummm, is it a desktop?
[06:31] <_Ahti> sx66: Why do people mention slax so often... whats so good about it?
[06:31] <imbecile> sx66,  laptop
[06:31] <sx66> _Ahti: it is fast and sexy
[06:32] <marcus__> _ahti: slax is modular and live
[06:32] <_Ahti> ok
[06:32] <lvlint67> irc.freenode.org
[06:32] <DrkCodeman> Anyone here able to install acetoneiso2?
[06:32] <sx66> imbecile: what kind of laptop? and fav of linux?
[06:32] <lvlint67> oops
[06:32] <lvlint67> mis copy
[06:32] <wols> Naisenu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-2a64a964ff8833576586c7216a1199f022c505a6
[06:32] <marcus__> _ahti: that makes it ideal for travelling.
[06:32] <n2diy_> wols, I think we are a little more tolerant around here, I understood the question.
[06:32] <imbecile> sx66,  dell e1505 and i love ubuntu
[06:32] <wols> you can use the names for uid and gid. no need to use numbers
[06:32] <TaJMoX> _Ahti sx66 - SLAX is a small live CD - Slackware is a full linux distrobution
[06:32] <Plantain> somedrew: I've installed it, how do I use it?
[06:32] <wols> n2diy_: I don't
[06:32] <sx66> imbecile: what year? how old on the HDD?
[06:33] <freeagy_> sysinfo
[06:33] <wols> n2diy_: and if you understund it, answer him
[06:33] <freeagy_> wols still not ok somthing      Unpacking xchat-xsys (from .../xchat-xsys_2.0.9-1_i386.deb) ...
[06:33] <freeagy_> Setting up xchat-xsys (2.0.9-1) ...
[06:33] <TaJMoX> imbecile : i love my e1505!!!
[06:33] <Student> I wish there was some boot process genious here that could help me with my "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error. Don't be shy now.
[06:33] <imbecile> sx66,  I just got this lappy last november
[06:33] <wols> freeagy_: full apt-get output in a pastebin
[06:33] <sx66> TaJMoX: I use slax for booting off usb at my school...
[06:33] <somedrew> Plaintain, just add it to your panel righ a right-click and configure the options you'd like to display (right-click on the applet and select 'preferences' or something similar
[06:33] <slackmagic> _Ahti: they mention slax because they like it...and it's what happens to a lot of gnu/linux distros...don't you just love the freedom?
[06:33] <Naisenu> wols: Can I assume that I can change uid to gid?
[06:33] <freeagy_> ok
[06:33] <sx66> imbecile: how old are yah?
[06:33] <TaJMoX> imbecile : wow me too! - notice the price dropped a few hundred bucks =] 
[06:34] <kravlin> SUCCESS!
[06:34] <NForc3r> hey guys why is wine screwing up? i installed it with apt-get when i installed ubuntu and it ran fine, i then updated it because an update came out and now its all weird and i cant set programs to spesific OSes and the wine options arnt anywhere in the menus
[06:34] <imbecile> sx66, 26
[06:34] <sx66> kravlin: yehahhahha
[06:34] <sx66> imbecile: I am 20
[06:34] <NForc3r> im 14
[06:34] <marcus__> ubuntu needs more language support.
[06:34] <imbecile> TaJMoX,  are you in the states?
[06:34] <TaJMoX> 25
[06:34] <kravlin> 17
[06:34] <TaJMoX> imbecile : cali
[06:34] <n2diy_> wols, he wants the replies to his posts highlighted. gnome-chat does it for me, so I don't know how to help him?
[06:34] <wols> Naisenu: uid=userid, gid=groupid. They are very different things. no you can't use them interchangeably even if they are usually the same number for a single user
[06:34] <sx66> wooo highschool
[06:34] <NForc3r> anyone know?
[06:34] <yo2k> 38
[06:34] <sx66> o_0
[06:34] <wols> n2diy_: me neither. he doesn't say what client he uses and I don't do mirc support here
[06:35] <imbecile> TaJMoX,  orange county here.. I always buy tech stuff on black friday
[06:35] <sx66> yo2k: o_0
[06:35] <NForc3r> n e one?
[06:35] <Naisenu> wols: Yes I am aware what uid and gid are. So I separate uids with commas?
[06:35] <Student> Need....help.....OR WILL GO INSANE! >:)
[06:35] <TaJMoX> nforc3r - you can reset the configuration to default by rm -rf ~/.wine     but this will un-install all your wine programs
[06:35] <Plantain> somedrew: works, thanks
[06:35] <sx66> Student: for what?
[06:35] <Student> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - error, expert level problem it seems.
[06:35] <freeagy_> wols http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26552/
[06:35] <emman101> wols: do you know how to connect in mirc undernet server?
[06:35] <emman101> do you know how to connect in mirc undernet server?
[06:35] <NForc3r> damn
[06:36] <NForc3r> is there any other way?
[06:36] <wols> Naisenu: you can mount it only as one uid. a file can only have one uid, one gid. those options force the whole drive under one uid/gid
[06:36] <n2diy_> wols, roger that.
[06:36] <imbecile> emman101,  try /server -m undernet
[06:36] <sx66> imbecile: do you a partition to back up your data just in case linux takes a crap on you?
[06:36] <shiester_miester> hey, Student
[06:36] <ivanAlvarez> how do i cd into a folder, because i want to install some icons and in the instructions it says that i need to cd into de gant folder
[06:36] <sx66> do* a partition
[06:36] <marcus__> can translation in linux support odd characters?
[06:36] <shiester_miester> had any luck with your problem yet?
[06:36] <wols> emman101: undernet.org. go to their server list and connect to them until one accepts you. tedious but the only way I found.
[06:36] <Student> shiester_miester, Hey! You're back, and no, I'm worse off...
[06:37] <marcus__> in other words non latin?
[06:37] <kravlin> now to go grab all those wonderful windows drivers we all love so much.
[06:37] <wols> emman101: use a client that can have more than one connection at a time, e.g. irssi
[06:37] <slackmagic> Student: googling that error "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" shows roughly 76,000 hits..have you read the first 20 yet?
[06:37] <|thunder> sup all. is there a command to apply changed to fstab without rebooting ?
[06:37] <Ayande`sick> how can i recover mysql password?
[06:37] <imbecile> sx66,  not as of yet.. i just did a fresh install today
[06:37] <Naisenu> wols, Okay then I am completely lost as to how I can have two people who can have RW access to the drive.
[06:37] <shiester_miester> slackmagic, we were trying to solve this together yesterday, to no avail
[06:37] <n2diy_> ivanAlvarez: cd /path/filename
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Student, i found some resources that might help
[06:37] <Student> slackmagic, Yes. Look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[06:37] <defrysk> |thunder, sudo mount -a I believe
[06:37] <sx66> imbecile: please do a fat32 (min 5gb - for files docs and such) then back up music and media on external...just in case.
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Student, try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26364/
[06:37] <|thunder> defrysk; thanks
[06:37] <ivanAlvarez> n2diy: likw cd/dektop/Gantfolder?
[06:37] <shiester_miester> Student, and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&page=2
[06:38] <sx66> imbecile: I have learned that the hard way
[06:38] <wols> Naisenu: two choices: make the drive writable by all users always. or put both users in a group and make it writable for that group via umask and the proper gid setting
[06:38] <n2diy_> ivanAlvarez: yes
[06:38] <|thunder> defrysk; that did it, thanks again
[06:38] <ivanAlvarez> ni2diy: thanks
[06:38] <defrysk> |thunder, yw ;)
[06:38] <sx66> K I am off to a restart of FRESH ubuntu!
[06:38] <ivanAlvarez> n2diy: thanks
[06:38] <n2diy_> ivanAlvarez: nada
[06:38] <sx66> w0o0o0t
[06:38] <sx66> peace
[06:38] <TaJMoX> my pits are fresh
[06:38] <imbecile> sx66, I have a 500gb external i throw all my important stuff on
[06:38] <Naisenu> wols: Both users are in a group. I was trying to query you about how to make it "writable for that group via umask and the proper gid setting"
[06:38] <|thunder> why does my apple partiton only show up after i start gparted ?
[06:39] <Student> shiester_miester, I don't get it - what situation is that solve for - I already checked my fstab and menu.lst - it all checks out, and the problem seems to be something uber complex now.
[06:39] <freeagy_> wols      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26552/    its like normail   i think
[06:41] <OrgulloKmoore> !sound
[06:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:41] <emman101> nybody know how to connect to mirc.undernet server?
[06:41] <|thunder> !fstab
[06:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:42] <Flannel> !offtopic | emman101
[06:42] <ubotu> emman101: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:42] <shiester_miester> Student, yeah i have no idea whats causing it
[06:42] <emman101> ubotu: i dont understand
[06:42] <derek_> Hi. How can I decompress .bin files in linux?
[06:43] <mezziah> derek_: try 'sh <filename>.bin'
[06:43] <n2diy> emman101: ubotu is the channel bot
[06:43] <Crav> i need to resize my windows partition, i got gparted, but it says i don't have the proper plugin. what to do?
[06:43] <Student> shiester_miester, It's been hell. I mean you can imagine, especially when all the common problems don't seem to be the issue - it's something "MYSTICAL" at this point.
[06:43] <Naisenu> n2diy, Aw it's fun watching naive people talk to bots. :)
[06:43] <shiester_miester> Student, yeah its the same here
[06:44] <n2diy> Naisenu: been there done that, you to I bet?
[06:44] <shiester_miester> Student, do you have any hard drives in a RAID configuration?
[06:44] <Student> shiester_miester, Is this day 2 for you, or 3?
[06:44] <Naisenu> wols: Both users are in a group. I was trying to query you about how to make it "writable for that group via umask and the proper gid setting"
[06:44] <Naisenu> n2diy, not for eons.
[06:44] <slackmagic> Student: is that while booting to feisty live cd? or all from your installed feisty?
[06:44] <NForc3r> well wine is still stuffed
[06:44] <oneseventeen> how would I list the mp3 files in a folder with only the filename on each line?
[06:44] <slackmagic> Student: replaced any new hardware by chance before this happened?
[06:44] <emman101> n2diy: but is it possible to connect to MIRC channel using this IRC program?
[06:44] <shiester_miester> Student, day 4 :P its not my primary computer so it doesnt really cause me problems
[06:44] <derek_> mezziah, some strange characters appeared and messed up the command prompt also
[06:44] <n2diy> Naisenu: fool me once...
[06:45] <Student> slackmagic, I'm on dapper, havent changed a thing hardware or software wise (software not intentionally anyway, but sure not hardware)
[06:45] <TaJMoX> nforc3r what exactly is wrong with wine ?
[06:45] <Student> shiester_miester, 4!!! You are a better man than I.
[06:45] <n2diy> emman101: umm, I don't know what the difference is between mirc and irc?
[06:46] <NForc3r>  i installed it with apt-get when i installed ubuntu and it ran fine, i then updated it because an update came out and now its all weird and i cant set programs to spesific OSes and the wine options arnt anywhere in the menus
[06:46] <Flannel> emman101: mIRC is just a program.  It connects to IRC channels, you can use any IRC program to connect to IRC networks/channels
[06:46] <andre_pl> how do I get the latest compiz-fusion on ubunbtu?
[06:46] <shiester_miester> Student, how is that better? ive just had the problem for longer
[06:46] <emman101> Flannel: so can i connect to a channel also using this IRC?
[06:47] <Student> shiester_miester, It's better because...it's only been day 2 for me, and I'm crying...actually crying at this point.
[06:47] <Student> Lol
[06:47] <shiester_miester> emman101, irc is a protocol, like http or pop...it doesnt matter what client you use, as long as they support the protocol they will all work
[06:47] <Naisenu> wols: Is this a correct line for fstab: "/media/hdb1 /mnt ntfs gid=1003,umask=007,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[06:47] <Flannel> emman101: You connect to networks, then join channels, but yes.
[06:47] <shiester_miester> emman101, just like how you can view websites with firefox, internet explorer, gecko, netscape etc
[06:47] <shiester_miester> Student, dont cry :(
[06:47] <TaJMoX> nfocre3r : winecfg is the configuration program
[06:47] <emman101> Flannel: i want to connect to #cebu in an undernet network.. how do i do that?
[06:47] <|thunder> anyone know how I can give regular users full read and write access to a ext3 partiton with fstab ?
[06:47] <Naisenu> Or anyone else who cares to answer ....
[06:48] <Student> shiester_miester, I'v been holding bunnies and puppies hostage in order to get help....not really working out >:)
[06:48] <Naisenu> emman101,  "/server irc.undernet.org"
[06:48] <shiester_miester> emman101, /server irc.undernet.net, then once its connected, /join #cebu (type this in the server command line)
[06:48] <n2diy> |thunder: that isn't a good idea, that's what winders does.
[06:48] <wols> Naisenu: umask=022,gid=xxx
[06:48] <shiester_miester> oh, is undernet a .net or a .org? :/
[06:48] <emman101> ill try.. thanx
[06:48] <|thunder> n2diy; its just a backup drive
[06:49] <shiester_miester> Student, you will find that linux is very resistant to interrogatin tactics
[06:49] <NForc3r> like id add a program to winecfg as windows  xp and i would then press apply and then ok, and when i go back they arnt there, it was working b4 i updated???
[06:49] <Naisenu> wols: Ah you rejoined. I sent this just before you got killed by Peer :) Is this a correct line for fstab: "/media/hdb1 /mnt ntfs gid=1003,umask=007,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[06:49] <wols> shiester_miester: depends how muchforce you apply
[06:49] <emman101> which is correct .net or .org?
[06:49] <n2diy> |thunder: check out the chown, an chmod commands.
[06:49] <wols> Naisenu: no. just add the two options I pasted
[06:49] <Naisenu> emman101, .org
[06:49] <wols> where xxx is your gid of course
[06:50] <wols> symbolic name and number both work
[06:50] <Student> wols, If you tell me to beat my PC...I'll do it.
[06:50] <wols> Student: what has that poor PC done to you. beat thyself
[06:50] <Naisenu> gah how do i check the numbers again?
[06:51] <wols> grep <groupname> /etc/group
[06:51] <Naisenu> wols, and where exactly do i add those bits?
[06:51] <wols> to your fstab options
[06:51] <Naisenu> yes ... where in the line?
[06:51] <Naisenu> does it not matter?
[06:51] <zipnet5> i use xubuntu but i can't login terminal ?
[06:52] <wols> man fstab,  field fs_mntops
[06:52] <Rutr0> Anyone else getting I/O errors with usb to ide adapters?
[06:52] <NForc3r> i dont want to reinstall ubuntu like last time
[06:52] <Saraphim> Hello. When I unmount a volume (for instane, sudo umount /media/music/) ubuntu changes its mount point in fstab. How do I change this behaviour?
[06:52] <Flannel> zipnet5: you can.  ctrl-alt-f[1-6]  gets you to a TTY, F7 gets you back to your GUI
[06:52] <k1gw1>  a way to "suspend" a computer from a command line? or more specifically, from an ssh session?
[06:53] <Polyneux> I recently just installed Feisty, I'm a new linux user and such, I used a CD to install it, and never used teh drive since then, now I need to use a cd and it suddenly occurred to me I dont know how to access the drive o.o I dont see any way to get into it in the gui ;.;
[06:53] <maison> that's the property of mount, you can't change it
[06:53] <penos> hello my fellow bashers. here is PLY v0.1 sneek preview. you can get it from http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/ . someone here requested that i should keep him posted about my project. PLY(stands for Primitive Lex Yacc) is basically a code generator and an interpreter written in bash to be run in bash
[06:53] <penos> hello my fellow bashers. here is PLY v0.1 sneek preview. you can get it from http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/ . someone here requested that i should keep him posted about my project. PLY(stands for Primitive Lex Yacc) is basically a code generator and an interpreter written in bash to be run in bash
[06:53] <sx66> !resolution
[06:53] <penos> hello my fellow bashers. here is PLY v0.1 sneek preview. you can get it from http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/ . someone here requested that i should keep him posted about my project. PLY(stands for Primitive Lex Yacc) is basically a code generator and an interpreter written in bash to be run in bash
[06:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:53] <maison> !spam | penos
[06:53] <primski> Boooooooooom!
[06:53] <ubotu> penos: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[06:53] <wols> KI4IKL: you mean run a ssh session, log out but let the program you started still run?
[06:53] <n2diy> k1gw1: qsl?
[06:53] <slackmagic> Student: gave this a try yet?  http://blog.shevin.info/2007/04/how-did-i-fix-cant-acess-tty-in-feisty.html
[06:53] <KI4IKL> wtf wols?
[06:53] <wols> !ops Penos is a spammer
[06:53] <zipnet5> thx alot
[06:53] <n2diy> KI4IKL: qsl?
[06:53] <SMAKK> Anyone know how to install Ubuntu on my laptop that has 1.4 GB hard drive memory and does not boot from the cd?
[06:53] <Polyneux> o.o
[06:54] <Hobbsee> oops
[06:54] <Saraphim> maison: Was that for me? I can't change that at all?
[06:54] <k1gw1> n2diy: it's k1gwb...I'm logged into freenode on another computer so it went to k1gw1 i guess
[06:54] <defrysk> lol
[06:54] <maison> SMAKK: try booting without the 'quite' option in the boot menu
[06:54] <emman101> Naisenu: have you try this already? it seems its not connected?
[06:54] <wols> k1gw1: you mean run a ssh session, log out but let the program you started still run?
[06:54] <n2diy> k1gw1: rr, cq fd!!
[06:54] <andre_pl> how do I get the latest compiz-fusion on ubunbtu?
[06:54] <KI4IKL> n2diy, EM53
[06:54] <wols> a!effects | andre_pl
[06:54] <k1gw1> wols: i mean, from my laptop i want to ssh into my desktop, and tell it to suspend the whole computer
[06:55] <wols> !effects | andre_pl
[06:55] <ubotu> andre_pl: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:55] <wols> k1gw1: what does "suspend" mean in your case?
[06:55] <n2diy> k1gw1: rr, FN20
[06:55] <Student> slackmagic, I'm on dapper - not faisty. I have one hard drive, partitioned to windows and linux - and if diggin into hardware is the only way to fix this....Ubuntu might not be the distro for me.
[06:55] <zipnet5> can't I edit res monitor
[06:55] <k1gw1> wols: like hibernate, but without turning it off?
[06:55] <wols> !fixres | zipnet5
[06:55] <ubotu> zipnet5: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <wols> Student: doing what?
[06:56] <Saraphim> Hello. When I unmount a volume (for instance, sudo umount /media/music/) ubuntu changes its mount point in fstab. How do I change this behaviour?
[06:56] <Student> wols, http://blog.shevin.info/2007/04/how-did-i-fix-cant-acess-tty-in-feisty.html
[06:56] <wols> k1gw1: there is a hibernate command and that doesn't turn it off? do you mean suspend to ram?
[06:56] <shiester_miester> Student, what type of hard drive is it?
[06:56] <shiester_miester> Student, is it just plugged right into primary ide?
[06:56] <wols> Student: try a different kernel
[06:56] <k1gw1> wols: yeah, suspend to ram I guess it is
[06:56] <Naisenu> wols: Okay fstab entry for /media/hdb1 now reads: "# Entry for /dev/hdb1 :
[06:56] <Naisenu> UUID=9260996260994DBB /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g umask=022,gid=1003 defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 1" -- i suppose i have to unmount and remount the drive for it to take effect?
[06:57] <Student> wols, Didn't work - I could boot and mount on Live CD though - but if I can't get it all fixed that is somewhat pointless too.
[06:57] <wols> k1gw1: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=ubuntu+suspend+to+ram. depends very much on your hardware and especially ACPI. often doesn't work
[06:57] <Student> shiester_miester, Reg IDE, yea
[06:57] <wols> Naisenu: bad line
[06:57] <wols> Naisenu: there is a space beteen gid and defaults
[06:57] <Naisenu> wols: okay how should it look?
[06:58] <ziroday> k1gw1: you might want to have a look at suspend2 as well as it is meant to be a better suspend  to ram
[06:58] <wols> a comma. can't you figure that out for yourself?
[06:58] <drgeb> hi I am trying to run gdmsetup and I keep getting this error that custom.conf does not exist
[06:58] <Saraphim> wols: Easy there sir. ;)
[06:58] <Student> wols, Also it's not the kernel - because it worked before with the same exact kernel.
[06:58] <k1gw1> okay thanks
[06:58] <n2diy> wols: lighten up, you aren't a drill sergant, are you?
[06:59] <Naisenu> wols, actually no. because there's no information there in man about comma or space separated. and i c&p'd what you typed
[06:59] <wols> n2diy: no. but I expect people to use that lump of cells above their eyes
[06:59] <defrysk> wols, also avoid rudeness
[06:59] <Saraphim> wols: You might as soon not respond if you're going to be impolite anyway.
[06:59] <ziroday> wols: relax
[06:59] <wols> n2diy: and expect them to read documentation. if they dn't want to: fine: hire a conslutant
[06:59] <Naisenu> wols: "The  fourth  field, (fs_mntops), describes the mount options associated with the filesystem."
[06:59] <Naisenu> that's all it says
[07:00] <emman101> /server irc.undernet.net is not working.. i cant connect.. pls help
[07:00] <wols> emman101: OT
[07:00] <zipnet5> xubuntu can't shutdown ?
[07:00] <wols> emman101: ask undernet to fix their servers
[07:00] <Naisenu> the next line goes on to talk about the fifth field.
[07:00] <wols> ziroday: it can. man shutdown
[07:00] <shiester_miester> emman101, try .org instead of .net
[07:00] <ziroday> wols: wrong person
[07:00] <wols> Naisenu: fields are delineated by whitespace. what will the space you put in do?
[07:00] <emman101> no there must be something wrong with the code
[07:00] <zipnet5> when i shutdown just stoped
[07:00] <wols> ziroday: sorry
[07:01] <n2diy> wols: roger that, but for a lot of people here, this in a venture into parts unknown. And if they are playing on a mission critical box, without a back up, a dangerous venture to boot.
[07:01] <emman101> still the same?
[07:01] <wols> emman101: as you've been told: it's .org
[07:01] <shiester_miester> emman101, its us.undernet.org
[07:01] <shiester_miester> sorry, i had it wrong
[07:01] <shiester_miester> so type /server us.undernet.org
[07:01] <emman101> so there should be "us."
[07:01] <Naisenu> the fields were delineated by white space
[07:01] <wols> n2diy: if they use a mission criticl box for "parts unknown" they are fools and have no business to be here or use ubuntu (on that box)
[07:02] <Saraphim> How come I cannot move symlinks on my ubuntu desktop to trash?
[07:02] <Saraphim> wols: That's none of your business to decide.
[07:02] <defrysk> wols, you seem to have a bad attitude
[07:02] <Naisenu> as indicated by use of the spacebar and shown as one blank space between "ntfs-3g" and "umask=022,gid=1003"
[07:02] <Tremitos> hello
[07:02] <ziroday> wols: i think you re going a bit overboard now
[07:02] <Student> Aside from invalid fstab and menu.lst entries, does anyone else know what could cause the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" boot error?
[07:02] <emman101> shiester_miester: no "irc"?
[07:02] <shiester_miester> emman101, no
[07:02] <Polyneux> How about we stop arguing and tell poly how to get to his CD drive ;.; There is a CD ROM 1 on the browser but it appears to be virtual.
[07:02] <n2diy> wols: agreed, but stuff happens. If it is Daddy's box, or Mommy's box, that probably don't care?
[07:03] <n2diy> wols: until something happens.
[07:03] <emman101> still doesnt work?
[07:03] <wols> ziroday: mission critical: not to be trifled with. that's why it's mission criztical. you don't even install patches without testing them first on another bix, cause the other one is mission critical. you certiainly don't install a new OS you don't know anything about
[07:03] <Saraphim> Student: I had that error too. I could find nothing to explain it, it randomly appeared and disappeared on reboot.
[07:03] <Student> Saraphim, Any theories?
[07:03] <wols> Polyneux: whose CD?
[07:03] <emman101> can i type the ip address directly instead of name?
[07:04] <Polyneux> wols: My CD?
[07:04] <wols> shiester_miester, emman101 please take your discussion eslewhere. this is nothing to do with ubuntu support
[07:04] <ziroday> wols: i suppose theres diff between mission critical and home usage, home you dont want to break but if it breaks you need to fix ti
[07:04] <Saraphim> Student: For some reason the problem was resolved as I moved Ubuntu to another hard drive, an SCSI one. Seemed to me there was a conflict between my IDE drives and my SCSI ones in BIOS.
[07:04] <Saraphim> Which seems very strange.
[07:04] <emman101> where? what channel?
[07:04] <wols> ziroday: n2diy was saying mission critical
[07:04] <Naisenu> Okay so does anyone else know if my fstab line is correct or not?
[07:04] <train> anyone running ubuntu on their laptop?
[07:05] <Saraphim> Naisenu: Could you link it again please?
[07:05] <Student> Saraphim, Ahh, but see I have only one partitioned drive, that shouldn't be the case here - right?
[07:05] <wols> Polyneux: put the CD in. go to /media/cdrom0
[07:05] <Student> Saraphim, Also were you on Dapper when this happened?
[07:05] <train> because I have a weird situation with my mouse pad.  It acts like there is a scroll bar on the right side of the pad. I"d like to disable this
[07:05] <Saraphim> Student: I'm not even sure that WAS the problem. Seems like an arcane problem to me. And no, this was on feisty.
[07:05] <train> has anyone heard of this?
[07:05] <n2diy> wols: ziroday, I'm at home, but this is my mission critical box, I have a test box that I play on, and break.
[07:05] <ali1234> train: it is the synaptics driver
[07:06] <Naisenu> Saraphim, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26555/
[07:06] <train> okay have you heard of a solution
[07:06] <train> to remove the scroll bar
[07:06] <Student> Saraphim, Yea, you see that's one of the problems I'm having - All the google results return solutions for Feisty, none of which work for my situtation - I'm lost I guess.
[07:06] <ali1234> train: yes, change the configuration
[07:06] <Saraphim> Student: I'm afraid I can't be of any more help. =/ I haven't the foggiest.
[07:06] <k1gw1> oh, speaking of train's question, on my laptop, the very right side of the touchpad seems to be a vertical scroll bar thing, which doesn't work....if I use it, it moves the cursor vertically only, but doesn't scroll the window. is there a way to get that to behave correctly?
[07:06] <train> where abouts I've gone to system> preferances > mouse
[07:07] <bigputo> What's the terminal command for a screenshot ?
[07:07] <Saraphim> Naisenu: You have a space between gid=1003 and defaults, this should be a comma I believe.
[07:07] <segagman> how do u instal tar ?
[07:07] <train> can't help you out, considering I'm trying to get rid of the problem
[07:08] <freeagy> wols  i ll see you are the favorit from this chanel
[07:08] <Student> Saraphim, Well someone must know - I mean the guys who put ubuntu together should. Any way that I could contact them? Ohh, but then again it could be a kernel problem maybe..ughhh. Well thanks for informing me.
[07:08] <shiester_miester> Student, do you know how ubuntu is made?
[07:08] <n2diy> segagman: you don't, it should already be intstalled.
[07:08] <shiester_miester> and linux in general
[07:08] <shiester_miester> and lots of large open-source software?
[07:08] <shiester_miester> lots and lots of people working together :P
[07:08] <Student> shiester_miester, I know that it's various contributors, but Isn't there a core cadre that puts it all together?
[07:09] <shiester_miester> there is no single bunch of guys that you can call up and ask them to fix your problem like you can with microsoft or apple
[07:09] <defrysk> Student, /j #ubuntu-motu
[07:09] <Saraphim> Student: Yes and no.. But the problem is likely very hardware specific.
[07:09] <segagman> no i DL sauerbraten ...how do i get it 2 run?
[07:09] <Naisenu> Saraphim, Ah okay.  ... Now how is a drive unmounted and remounted? I assume that has to be done....
[07:09] <Polyneux> Wols: It's not showingup, could the fact that these CDs are burned require something different? Also I just tried a random commercial CD and its not appearing in the folder you gave me.
[07:10] <Student> defrysk, ?? Could you explain a little more please?
[07:10] <n2diy> shiester_miester: sure there is, you can buy support for Ubuntu.
[07:10] <kazim59> Student: Ubuntu is linux for human beings.. make sure you buy hardware for human beings
[07:10] <defrysk> Student, thats where developers and alike reside
[07:10] <Saraphim> Naisenu: sudo umount /path/to/mount and then sudo mount /path/to/mount
[07:10] <Student> kazim59, It's very regular hardware, trust me.
[07:10] <Student> defrysk, Will they mind if I bother them like this?
[07:11] <defrysk> Student, only one way to find out....
[07:11] <Saraphim> Student: If you feel it's a bug in Ubuntu, no, but I don't really think it is.
[07:11] <Naisenu> gah my group can now access files, but not read
[07:11] <Naisenu> er write
[07:11] <Student> Heh, why do I feel like I'm being set up? Oh, well, I'll give it a shot.
[07:12] <n2diy> Student: all they can do is tell you to bug off, go for it?
[07:12] <Saraphim> Naisenu: Er, what mask are you seeing on that drive?
[07:13] <kazim59> does Mark Shuttleworth login to #ubuntu?
[07:13] <gregorovius> hi... does anyone know of a kde skin similar to the Human theme in gnome?
[07:13] <Naisenu> Saraphim, this mask: drwxr-xr-x 1 root dutton 12288 2007-06-14 20:22 hdb1
[07:13] <_Ahti_> gregorovius: kde-look.org
[07:13] <k1gw1> I hear Mark was in here for the Feisty release
[07:14] <suryosentono> anyone know, where i can find ubuntu tutorial in local language?
[07:14] <train> anyone familiar with the mouse pad vertical scroll wheel
[07:14] <n2diy> suryosentono: what is your local language?
[07:14] <train> and how ot disable it
[07:14] <Saraphim> Naisenu: Then the mask you set in fstab is wrong.
[07:14] <_Ahti_> suryosentono: Japanese?
[07:14] <train> my mousepad wasn't designed for it
[07:14] <suryosentono> Indonesia
[07:14] <Saraphim> Naisenu: only root has rwx access on that mask
[07:14] <Student> Yea, that was a setup
[07:14] <_Ahti_> suryosentono: Ah, sorry... :)
[07:14] <Polyneux> Oi, can anyone tell me how to access the CD drive on my computer. media/cdrom0 doesnt show anything with a disk in ;.;
[07:14] <n2diy> ! in | suryosentono
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <Naisenu> Saraphim, Okay what do I need to do to make group "dutton" have rw?
[07:15] <n2diy> ! id | suryosentono
[07:15] <ubotu> suryosentono: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:15] <suryosentono> OK Thanks
[07:15] <suryosentono> ubotu
[07:15] <imbecile> anyone know how to remove window decoration for conky in gnome?
[07:15] <emman101> thanx guys in connected to undernet already... yepehhhhhh!!
[07:15] <suryosentono> ubuntu tutorial in english?
[07:15] <ziroday> suryosentono: whats ubuntu indonesian language support like ??
[07:15] <n2diy> :) suryosentono
[07:16] <suryosentono> :)
[07:16] <shiester_miester> emman101, thats good to hear
[07:16] <Saraphim> Naisenu: Should be 770 or something, right? I honestly can't remember.
[07:17] <imbecile> is there anything similar to conky and gkrellm?
[07:17] <k1gw1> I can't find the donate link on ubuntu.com... I know there was one before Feisty came out
[07:17] <shiester_miester> Student, personally i think this is a bug in ubuntu since so many people seem to encounter it...im waiting for jdstrand to come online so he can continue with the help from yesterday :P
[07:17] <Naisenu> Saraphim, Would that be the umask section i'm changing? Or something else?
[07:17] <Saraphim> Naisenu: yes, that would be the umask. You've already set the group ID, now you need to set the umask so that the group gets rws access.
[07:17] <Naisenu> At this rate, I'm ready to transfer the files to my camera's SD card, and reboot into winders *sigh*
[07:17] <Student> shiester_miester, Yea, I mean it's just horrible. Something like this shouldn't just happen out of the blue like this.
[07:18] <n2diy> k1gw1: it was switched to n2diy at pay pal dot com. :)
[07:18] <jonathan_> ?
[07:18] <shiester_miester> Student, yeah unfortunately there is always problems with every operating system :P
[07:18] <zipnet5> may i run gedit ?
[07:18] <train> I figure removing ZAxisMapping"		"4 5" might work
[07:18] <iwaksepat> OK i will join ubuntu id. and last, where i can find ubuntu tutorial in local language?
[07:18] <k1gw1> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations ...I found it, but there's no link to it that I can see. Just had to search for it.
[07:18] <train> anyone want to throw out an idea?
[07:18] <jonathan_> sudo apt-get kubuntu-dekstop is not available
[07:18] <iwaksepat> OK i will join ubuntu id. and last, where i can find ubuntu tutorial in english?
[07:18] <zipnet5> xubuntu gedit ?
[07:19] <Student> shiester_miester, Yea but look: As fed up as windows is, I never had anything close to this kind of crazy sh**.
[07:19] <k1gw1> iwaksepat: http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:19] <jonathan_> iwaksepat: knp>
[07:19] <jonathan_> sama2 orang indo yah?
[07:19] <ziroday> k1gw1: just found the same link 4 u lol
[07:19] <n2diy> Student: but now you can see your problems, winders hides them from you.
[07:20] <k1gw1> If you donate a certain amount does your name go in the source code, like with firefox? haha
[07:20] <iwaksepat> thanks k1gw1
[07:20] <unfo> k1gw1, good idea.
[07:21] <Student> n2diy, Well that's true, and also I think I learned more about the boot process in these last 2 days then ever before - But it just stings so bad.
[07:21] <iwaksepat> you know, i will request cd in shifit in 11 May, but now have'n the cd in my home
[07:21] <ziroday> k1gw1: no but u can specify howto use ur money (like support your comp completely lol)
[07:21] <iwaksepat> what wrong
[07:21] <ikon_> hello world
[07:21] <ikon_> i have a question
[07:22] <Polyneux> Everyone has questions ;.;
[07:22] <n2diy> Student: the learning curve is steep, but you have lots of support here.  Six year ago, it took me over two years just to log on to the internet with Linux.
[07:22] <k1gw1> or marketing ;) ...my take on it is I think I should make sure I've spent as much on Ubuntu as I ever did on all copies of any other OS (not mentioning any names) put together...since it's worth a lot more to me.
[07:22] <ziroday> !ask | ikon
[07:22] <ubotu> ikon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:22] <iwaksepat> you know, i will request cd in shifit in 11 May, but now i have'n the cd in my home
[07:23] <k1gw1> iwaksepat: they take up to 10 weeks to arrive, I believe. If you can, then try the torrent.
[07:23] <Ramzi139> Hello.
[07:23] <n2diy> iwaksepat: it takes about 8 weeks
[07:23] <unfo> hi
[07:23] <Polyneux> Where does the CD drive reside on ubuntu? ;.;
[07:23] <ziroday> iwaksepat: try the torrent
[07:24] <ziroday> Polyneux: /dev/cdrom0
[07:24] <ziroday> or cdrom1
[07:24] <unfo> Polyneux, it's an icon that will appear on the desktop
[07:24] <iwaksepat> ok i try the torrent
[07:24] <Ramzi139> Today I installed Ubuntu, dual-boot with XP. The resolution is very bad, and I googled several sites outlining how to fix it.
[07:24] <ziroday> Ramzi139: what gfx card?
[07:25] <Ramzi139> Unfortunately nothing worked, and now I am locked out of a GUI because I fucked up my xorg.conf file.
[07:25] <Polyneux> Unfo: Problem is I've repeatedly done actions of unknown purpose or origin that deleted every icon off of my desktop.
[07:25] <Ramzi139> Nvidia Geforce FX 5200
[07:25] <unfo> Polyneux, what happens when you insert a cd-rom?
[07:25] <ziroday> Ramzi139: easily fixed in terminal - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <n2diy> Polyneux: then stop doing that!
[07:26] <wols> Polyneux: /media/cdrom0
[07:26] <unfo> Ramzi139, do you know how to start Terminal?
[07:26] <Polyneux> n2diy: I dont know what it was D:
[07:26] <Ramzi139> Thank you. That will restore it to working condition, but still bad resolution.
[07:26] <wols> Polyneux: or /media/cdrom/
[07:26] <SurfnKid> hi
[07:26] <SurfnKid> how do i sent a whole bunch of files from ftp?
[07:26] <Student> I got a responce back from motu - "you likelly want #ubuntu".
[07:26] <Ramzi139> Yes. I am in Windows right now though.
[07:26] <ziroday> unfo: hes has no gui
[07:26] <Naisenu> What is the likelihood of damaging my NTFS drive by copying files from Ubuntu onto ut
[07:26] <unfo> SurfnKid, drag and drop them
[07:26] <Naisenu> <onto it?>
[07:26] <SurfnKid> yeah that too
[07:26] <SurfnKid> but from CLI
[07:26] <n2diy> Polyneux: that is a problem. :)
[07:26] <Polyneux> unfo: Well the other day when I put a game cd in it executed.Now I try media/cdromX (theres 1 and 0) and nothings there. I have three burned CDs with files I want on it and I have also tried various commercial CDs
[07:26] <unfo> SurfnKid, i use LFTP.  It's great.
[07:26] <ziroday> Ramzi139: well can u find another comp then boot into ubuntu??
[07:26] <endo_> argh, I cannot get ktorrent nor azureus to function properly
[07:26] <wols> Naisenu: so far, ntfs-3g hasn't destroyed any ntfs drives. that's all ew can say
[07:27] <endo_> they both just crash
[07:27] <wols> Niklas-_: it is a reverse engineered driver for ntfs
[07:27] <wols> since MS won't give out specs
[07:27] <SurfnKid> cool thanks
[07:27] <unfo> Polyneux, when you put in a commercial CD what shows up on your desktop?
[07:27] <Ramzi139> ziroday: No, I'll just take notes here and then reboot.
[07:27] <ziroday> Ramzi139: well its really easy just in terminal dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and everything should be good
[07:27] <wols> SurfnKid: mput. depends on the client tho
[07:27] <Ramzi139> Okay.
[07:27] <Ramzi139> I'll do that and then come back here for further assistance.
[07:28] <ikon_> what is a RFC?
[07:28] <Ramzi139> Because I suspect that my resolution will still suck.
[07:28] <ziroday> Ramzi139: cya
[07:28] <kom0dor> Erm, well, I'm trying to install ubuntu from a live CD and it started after a ton of scroll input and has a hideous 640x480 resolution that I can't change...what's up?
[07:28] <ziroday> Ramzi139: shouldnt do nvidia is usually pretty gd
[07:28] <ziroday> !fixres | kom0dor
[07:28] <ubotu> kom0dor: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:28] <n2diy> ikon request for comments
[07:29] <train> kI
[07:29] <ikon_> how can i edit grub ?
[07:29] <wols> ikon_: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:29] <unfo> ikon_, why do you want to?
[07:29] <Polyneux> unfo: Nothing, the only thing that ever shows on my desktop anymore are the 3 files I put there. As a result of the unknown action that removed it all.
[07:29] <ikon_> because linux boot first than my xp
[07:29] <unfo> Polyneux, what was the unknown action?
[07:29] <Naisenu> Yays. Okay thanks guys for your help. I was able to touch a file on the NTFS drive and it does indeed appear.
[07:29] <ikon_> i want xp first
[07:30] <wols> Polyneux: did you go to /media/cdrom0 as I said?
[07:30] <unfo> ikon_, do you know how to use Terminal?
[07:30] <n2diy> ikon_  RFC = request for comments
[07:30] <Polyneux> Unfo: I dont know :/ I tried to track it down but I couldnt.
[07:30] <SurfnKid> wols, ok
[07:30] <ikon_> thanks n2diy
[07:30] <unfo> k1gw1, if you report your idea at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug they will consider it.
[07:30] <ikon_> not much
[07:30] <unfo> k1gw1, want me to help you?
[07:30] <k1gw1> unfo: what idea?
[07:30] <unfo> k1gw1, to list a list of people who donated money
[07:30] <Polyneux> Wols: media/cdrom0 had nothing in it, as well as the other folder in media...cdrom1
[07:30] <ikon_> i need more info about terminal commands for ubuntu
[07:30] <ikon_> where can i find it?
[07:31] <unfo> ikon_, don't. Just open up "xnest"
[07:31] <mortuis99> !terminal
[07:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:31] <wols> Polyneux: put a CD in both every drive you have. then on a terminal: mount /media/cdrom0. then check it again
[07:31] <k1gw1> unfo: ohhh, I was mostly joking, about the source code thing. That'd be unnecessary bloat, but I suppose a page online broken into levels might be okay. But I just donated $100 5 mins ago :-P
[07:31] <ikon_> thanks dude
[07:31] <unfo> k1gw1, thanks!
[07:31] <imbecile> do firefox themes work in linux?
[07:31] <unfo> ikon_, press Alt+F2 then type this:
[07:32] <wols> imbecile: yes
[07:32] <Student> Hey someone spell my name please.
[07:32] <unfo> ikon_, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:32] <k1gw1> Student:
[07:32] <ikon_> and then?
[07:32] <Polyneux> wols: line returns = mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[07:32] <Student> Thank you, the beep works.
[07:32] <iwaksepat> Student
[07:32] <unfo> imbecile, yes
[07:32] <wols> Polyneux: dmesg |grep CD
[07:33] <unfo> ikon_, what do you see?
[07:33] <Arenlor> Is it possible to install Debian without a CD if I have an existing version of Linux?
[07:33] <imbecile> wols,  is there anything special i need to do to get them to work? or do i just follow directions?
[07:33] <Polyneux> wols: It returns another command prompt.
[07:33] <gonzoism> is feisty really buggy or something ?
[07:33] <gonzoism> i get a lot of dma errors
[07:33] <wols> Polyneux: your BIOS recognizes the CDROM?
[07:33] <gonzoism> and bus errors
[07:33] <ziroday> Arenlor: 2 things, a) this isnt #debian 2) yes but its hard
[07:33] <gonzoism> been getting them for a while
[07:33] <wols> Polyneux: put the whole output of dmesg into a pastebin
[07:34] <wols> imbecile: nothing special. download them from the site as usual and let them install
[07:34] <n2diy> ikon: here is a ton of stuff on linux:  http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[07:34] <ziroday> Arenlor: and you would still have to dl all of #debian
[07:34] <gonzoism> and i am getting these errors on multiple boxes
[07:34] <Arenlor> Sorry, wrong word lol, I have Debian, want to switch to Ubuntu, is there a link for help?
[07:34] <wols> gonzoism: paste one error
[07:34] <Polyneux> wols: As far as I know, I installed input in it. The output of dmesg doesnt need a pastebin. - elm@elm-desktop:~$
[07:34] <imbecile> wols, thanks
[07:34] <gonzoism> [  933.912990]  hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[07:34] <Polyneux> wols: not input ubuntu* =P
[07:34] <gonzoism> wols four might be better ?
[07:34] <ikon_> a bunch of trash characters
[07:34] <ziroday> Arenlor: you just have to dl ubuntu
[07:34] <mortuis99> !ubuntu
[07:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <wols> Polyneux: if you run dmesg it certainly needs a pastebin and it will output a lot. the command "dmesg"
[07:35] <wols> gonzoism: your harddisk, hdd cable or harddisk controller is broken
[07:35] <tak_> e.org
[07:35] <wols> Arenlor: you need to reinstall ubuntu
[07:35] <gonzoism> wols  other boxes do the same thing
[07:36] <Polyneux> wols: elm@elm-desktop:~$ dmesg |grep CD comes back elm@elm-desktop:~$
[07:36] <gonzoism> wols  my brand new laptop does the same thing.
[07:36] <ali1234> Arenlor: use debootstrap same as you would on debian. there's loads of guides for this kind of thing on the ubuntu website under "community docs"
[07:36] <wols> Polyneux: I didn't say | grep.... I said dmesg
 Polyneux: dmesg |grep CD
[07:37] <wols> gonzoism: all I can tell you what this error means. it's upon you to act it or not. your OS has read errors when trying to read a sector from the hdd
[07:37] <unfo> gonzoism, defective CD disc maybe?
[07:37] <wols> Polyneux: after that I only said run dmesg.
[07:37] <Polyneux> Wols: I apologize
[07:37] <unfo> k1gw1, when people donate money, their name should go on a page online
[07:37] <gonzoism> unfo no, multiple hard disks on multiple buses
[07:37] <unfo> gonzoism, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <wols> gonzoism: is your hda a harddisk or a CD?
[07:38] <gonzoism> wols hd
[07:38] <k1gw1> unfo: I suppose it's not a bad idea.. offtopic for here, but could perhaps encourage more people to do so
[07:38] <gonzoism> window new hide next
[07:38] <unfo> k1gw1, and also the list of people should be in the About Ubuntu... dialog box.
[07:38] <unfo> k1gw1, i think it's an excellent idea.  why don't you report it?
[07:39] <k1gw1> unfo: okay, where?
[07:39] <n2diy> ! bugs | k1gw1
[07:39] <ubotu> k1gw1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:39] <unfo> k1gw1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[07:40] <unfo> k1gw1, use your ShipIt userid and password if you have one.
[07:41] <unfo> k1gw1, i suggest you file 2 separate bug reports: 1. they should make a list online, and 2. they should add a list to the About Ubuntu... dialog box.
[07:42] <Student> Aside from invalid fstab and menu.lst entries, what else could be causing the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" boot error?
[07:43] <n2diy> Student: hmm, how do you re-start bash?
[07:43] <unfo> k1gw1, i also suggest you file the 2nd bug in the binary package "gnome"
[07:43] <unfo> n2diy, control-c will unfreeze bash often
[07:43] <k1gw1> ok
[07:43] <Student> n2diy, ?
[07:43] <Polyneux> wols: This will takea bit I now have to deal with firefox's blank screen issue
[07:43] <n2diy> Student: see the info from, err info?
[07:45] <Student> n2diy, I can't boot to Ubuntu - the "ash" console I am kicked to doesn't provide the necessary utilities for log checking or similar activities - or at least from what I saw.
[07:45] <Chicory> Is there some way that I can place a phone call using my phone line connection in Ubuntu?
[07:45] <unfo> Chicory, yes.
[07:45] <qiqi> ivarpok terliarpok tammarnerk KDE?
[07:45] <Chicory> unfo, any particular program you'd suggest?
[07:45] <unfo> qiqi, francais? deutsch?
[07:45] <unfo> qiqi, ja? cn? it?
[07:45] <wols> unfo: whois is a great tool
[07:45] <n2diy> Student: yuck! Have you tried your other boot options?
[07:46] <ashu18> i hav got a problem...anyone can help me???
[07:46] <wols> damn. this one is from charter
[07:46] <unfo> ashu18, we will try
[07:46] <unfo> Chicory, what precisely do you want to do?
[07:46] <wols> Student: does grep work? is any partition mounted?
[07:46] <ashu18> unfo: i am new to linux and my ubuntu won't accept any cds or floppies
[07:47] <unfo> ashu18, please talk to everybody, not just me :)
[07:47] <Chicory> unfo, basically just use my phone jack to turn this computer into a working phone, basically.
[07:47] <Student> n2diy, Even when booting under a later kernel, I get the same erro, also for safe mode too. Only way to get Ubuntu up is to use live cd - then mount partition  - which at least let's me access my files
[07:47] <wols> ashu18: put in a CD, go to /media/cdrom0
[07:47] <gonzoism> ashu18 is it up and running normally ?
[07:47] <Polyneux> wols: Got it for ya http://pastebin.com/933172
[07:47] <Jason_P> Can someone who knows how to install ubuntu start a pm with me?
[07:47] <Chicory> VoIP is great and all, but sometimes I'm stuck with no internet and no phone, but a phone jack.
[07:47] <Student> wols,  Nothing gets mounted
[07:47] <wols> Polyneux: don't use pastebin. it takes ages to load
[07:47] <wols> !paste Polyneux
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste polyneux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <ashu18> no there's nothing in the cdrom0 even if i put in the cd
[07:47] <gonzoism> window new next hide
[07:47] <ramzil> Hey.
[07:47] <qiqi> utatkriyok..........
[07:47] <gonzoism> damnit
[07:47] <ramzil> ziroday, you in here?
[07:47] <cafuego> are you sure?
[07:48] <wols> !paste | Polyneux
[07:48] <ubotu> Polyneux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <unfo> Chicory, consider skype first.  It costs 20 euros for lots and lots of talktime.
[07:48] <Canti> Hola
[07:48] <wols> Student: how did you check?
[07:48] <Canti> !make dvd
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about make dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <Chicory> 20EU, you say?
[07:48] <unfo> Canti, hola! tu hablo espanol?
[07:48] <Canti> !vob
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[07:48] <ramzil> Thanks. The resolution thing worked perectly. I have a lot more options now.
[07:48] <wols> Canti: use a program like gnomebaker or k3b
[07:48] <n2diy> Student: The live CD's kernel is older than your current one? Your kerenel could be "to new" for your hardware. (sorry on the dup)
[07:48] <Chicory> Now if only I could get my bluetooth headset to behave with my laptop I'd be in business.
[07:48] <Student> wols, That nothing was mounted? Because the error poped up before anything could mount
[07:49] <Canti> unfo: sorry I dont
[07:49] <ashu18> anyone listening to me????
[07:49] <ramzil> It took me a while to get back here because the JAVA irc client didn't load.
[07:49] <unfo> Chicory, there are other voip for linux, like Gizmo Project
[07:49] <wols> Student: that is not true
[07:49] <Canti> wols: will do thanks :)
[07:49] <Student> n2diy, It worked with the same kernel just fine before.
[07:49] <wols> Student: if nothing was mounted how did ash run?
[07:49] <unfo> Chicory, last resort: asterisk.  It will take you at least an hour to set up, and it only works with a few special zaptel modems, but it may work for you.  see channel #asterisk
[07:49] <Polyneux> wols: Sorry that was the only pastebin I knew of =P http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26557/
[07:49] <unfo> ashu18, yes
[07:49] <Chicory> Ah, okie dokie.
[07:49] <Student> wols, I don't know, but ask gives only a few commands- none of which can help me from what I can tell.
[07:49] <ashu18> so, what do i do????
[07:50] <unfo> ashu18, what shows up on your desktop?
[07:50] <ashu18> nothing, it just doesn't respond
[07:50] <n2diy> Student: then we are still missing a piece of the puzzle.
[07:50] <shiester_miester> Student, made any progress?
[07:51] <unfo> ashu18, how many CD and DVD drives do you have?
[07:51] <Student> n2diy, I guess so. I'm thinking about what else could possibly couse this aside from invalid fstab and menu.lst entries
[07:51] <wols> Polyneux: what chipset does your mobo have?
[07:51] <Student> shiester_miester, Not yet I'm afraid.
[07:51] <ashu18> one cd-rw drive
[07:51] <shiester_miester> hey does anybody know of a good dock program, like kiba-dock but not bug-ridden and doesnt rape the cpu
[07:51] <Canti> I have a question for any one who might know. I have an integrated express 200m radeon card in my laptop. I'm using ati's driver with it and every time I close my laptop's cover and open it again all my colours are messed up. If I open the ati tool and default custom colour settings it returns to normal.
[07:51] <mezziah> shiester_miester: try out gdesklets, on their website there's a cool dock for it
[07:51] <shiester_miester> thank you!
[07:51] <WaltzingAlong> shiester_miester: np
[07:52] <Polyneux> wols: its an intel 845
[07:52] <unfo> ashu18, hmm.. do you know how to use Terminal?
[07:52] <wols> Polyneux: it doesn't recognize any CD drive. does your BIOS recognoze the CD?
[07:52] <ashu18> yeah i hav learnt pretty much in the last 20 days for this problem
[07:52] <wols> Polyneux: also you only have a 40pin IDE cable?
[07:52] <gonzoism> so has anyone else complained about errors in dmesg like:  hdb: timeout waiting for DMA   ?
[07:52] <metbsd> shiester_miester, try superkaramba, it's nice
[07:52] <wols> Polyneux: lbut a 32=GB disk?
[07:52] <n2diy> Student: Sorry, I have no ideas, GL.
[07:53] <wols> 320GB
[07:53] <unfo> ashu18, try this: dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/dev/null
[07:53] <wols> Student: does udev load?
[07:53] <unfo> ashu18, what happens? does the CD spin?
[07:53] <Student> n2diy, Well thanks either way for trying at least - btw I made a post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715
[07:53] <ashu18> will i try after inserting a cd??
[07:53] <Polyneux> wols: I can try to restart now to find out  but I figured it must have beause it a. installed ubuntu and b. it ran the game installer for a commercial game less than a week ago. I dont understand lbut.
[07:53] <unfo> gonzoism, it has happened to me in debian before, but my HDD still works fine.
[07:53] <Student> wols, Not that I saw.
[07:53] <Canti> wols: gnomebaker is just for data dvds no? I'm attempting to make a video dvd
[07:54] <r4ym4n> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[07:54] <unfo> ashu18, yes
[07:54] <r4ym4n> and my wireless isn't working
[07:54] <n2diy> Student: rr, let me go take a look at it.
[07:54] <shiester_miester> thanks, metbsd
[07:54] <arrrghhh> hey i was wondering how to configure the startup
[07:54] <metbsd> shiester_miester, you use gnome or kde?
[07:54] <shiester_miester> gnome
[07:54] <wols> arrrghhh: rcconf for example
[07:54] <r4ym4n> my wireless isn't working, anyone know what i should do (it's for my laptop)
[07:55] <aoeoae> is anyone else going to ubuntulive?
[07:55] <shiester_miester> superkaramba seems to be for kde
[07:55] <aoeoae> /whois aoeoae
[07:55] <arrrghhh> everytime i reboot GRUB works but after that it never makes it to the 'session manager'
[07:55] <aoeoae> gah
[07:55] <wols> r4ym4n: what wlan chip?
[07:55] <shiester_miester> but then, quite a few kde apps seem to run fine in gnome
[07:55] <arrrghhh> i have to do it in text
[07:55] <WaltzingAlong> r4ym4n: what wlan?
[07:55] <arrrghhh> and run gdm manually
[07:55] <peanutb> aoeoae, I wish i was going
[07:55] <ashu18> i get this message:
[07:55] <unfo> k1gw1, i'm curious, did the bug filing work?
[07:55] <ashu18> dd: opening `/dev/cdrom0': No such file or directory
[07:55] <andreus> hello, how do i know which Ubuntu version i have installed?
[07:55] <r4ym4n> what do you mean?
[07:55] <unfo> ashu18, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/null
[07:55] <wols> arrrghhh: run it how?
[07:55] <r4ym4n> how do you check?
[07:55] <k1gw1> unfo: i did the webpage one then got distracted haha
[07:55] <arrrghhh> wols, sudo gdm
[07:56] <unfo> k1gw1, thats ok :) what's the webpage one bug ID number?
[07:56] <wols> arrrghhh: don't. /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:56] <mike__> Hi
[07:56] <unfo> hi
[07:56] <WaltzingAlong> r4ym4n: it would be in the documentation with your device, otherwise   lspci
[07:56] <k1gw1> ahh, I don't recall. 1 sec
[07:56] <shiester_miester> would superkaramba run in gnome? at all? :/
[07:56] <goodtimes> I just hosed my ubuntu 7.04 xorg config file. I had installed the nvidia drivers through automatix and then later I installed nvidia-glx through apt-get, I cant get X to come back up, help plz
[07:56] <arrrghhh> wols, will that solve my problem or are you just instructing what i should run when it starts?
[07:56] <n2diy> Student: the link didn't work, it took me to Xubuntu
[07:56] <wols> shiester_miester: of course. it would drag in a lot of kde baggage but it would work
[07:56] <arrrghhh> i'd like to get the session manager working again
[07:57] <gonzoism> unfo  thanks.  i'll try updating kernels if i can find a package for it.  where would that be ?  i miss grabbing the kernel source and building those.  for some reason they never boot for me on ubuntu or fedora.
[07:57] <Jason_P> Can someone give me a step by step installation of ubuntu (in a PM)?
[07:57] <k1gw1> unfo: 121499
[07:57] <mike__> mike@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mythtv mythtv-themes
[07:57] <mike__> Password:
[07:57] <mike__> Reading package lists... Done
[07:57] <mike__> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:57] <mike__> E: Couldn't find package mythtv
[07:57] <mike__> mike@ubuntu:~$
[07:57] <wols> arrrghhh: won't solve your problem but until you can us tell what error it repots, we cannot help you
[07:57] <WaltzingAlong> goodtimes: you could run the recovery program from automatix or you could merely run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <mike__> anyone know why this might be happening?
[07:57] <gonzoism> unfo i think it has something to do with the initramfs or something
[07:57] <Student> n2diy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715     That should be right.
[07:57] <arrrghhh> wols, i don't think there was an error
[07:57] <andreus> how do i know the name of Ubuntu linux that i have installed? thank you in advance
[07:57] <mike__> trying to create a ubuntu myth box
[07:57] <wols> mike__: search for it first. and do not paste in channel
[07:57] <goodtimes> WaltzingAlong thx, I will try the dpkg-reconfigure
[07:57] <ashu18> nothing is happening...should i wait??? the cursor is still blinking
[07:57] <n2diy> Student: rr, let me go take a look at it.
[07:57] <mike__> How do I do that wols?
[07:57] <WaltzingAlong> mike__: yes because mythtv was not found in any of the repositories in your sources
[07:57] <gonzoism> arrrghhh what is it doing ?
[07:57] <andreus> name i.e. Edgy, Feisty...?
[07:57] <wols> arrrghhh: if there wasn't why idn't it running on startup. ls -al /etc/rc2.d/S??gdm
[07:57] <mike__> ahh that's Waltz :)
[07:58] <mike__> I am the linux noooob :P
[07:58] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, instead of booting the session manager on startup it asks for my login/pass in text
[07:58] <wols> mike__: man apt-cache
[07:58] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, and then i manually run 'sudo gdm'
[07:58] <unfo> ashu18, is the CD spinning?
[07:58] <mike__> i must have a distro that protects me from explosions
[07:58] <wols> arrrghhh: what does the ls command show?
[07:58] <mike__> :p
[07:58] <ashu18> how do i know??? most probably not
[07:58] <gonzoism> arrrghhh did you recently update any X config ?  like enabling 3d or something ?
[07:58] <WaltzingAlong> goodtimes: essentially you can just set the driver to "nv" which will use the foss driver
[07:58] <wols> mike__: doesn't exist, even if some pretend otherwise
[07:58] <arrrghhh> wolki, "no such file or directory"
[07:59] <k1gw1> I have an ubuntu serve box as my router and it's been on for 28 days 23 hours 14 mins...that's pretty amazing to me :)
[07:59] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, yea... i've been doin all kindsa crap
[07:59] <wols> unfo: if it can't find /dev/cdrom, how can it spin?
[07:59] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, tempted to wipe it again with a fresh install
[07:59] <gonzoism> arrrghhh in /var/log/  there is a log of X11 output.  it should say exactly what the error is.  want me to help you fix it ?
[07:59] <WaltzingAlong> mike__: so that just means you need to add more respositories
[07:59] <wols> arrrghhh: dpkg-reconfigure gdmsetup or such
[07:59] <r4ym4n> WaltzingAlong: my wireless is broadcom integrated 802.11g/b
[07:59] <unfo> Jason_P, unfortunately we don't help people by PM here :( do you know why?
[07:59] <n2diy> Student: ok, the second try worked, where are your posts?
[07:59] <dvs01> it prevents others from learning the answer
[07:59] <mike__> what exactally is a repository?
[07:59] <arrrghhh> wols, that would probably do it
[07:59] <gonzoism> arrrghhh are you on the console now, or on a live cd or something ?  or another box ?
[07:59] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, i'm gonna try that
[07:59] <wols> r4ym4n: which of the 4xxx chips?
[07:59] <Student> n2diy, Senesence
[08:00] <unfo> ashu18, is the tiny LED light on?
[08:00] <ashu18> no there is no sound in the cd drive
[08:00] <ashu18> no
[08:00] <r4ym4n> 4306
[08:00] <gonzoism> arrrghhh try reinstalling ?  there is a one line command somewhere to reset X to its default.
[08:00] <wols> gonzoism: e says he has no S??gdm in /etc/rc.d/. it's never run on startup
[08:00] <r4ym4n> BCM4306
[08:00] <unfo> ashu18, put your hand on the CD drive.  do you feel it vibrating?
[08:00] <WaltzingAlong> r4ym4n: :D ok so either use the bcm43xx driver or windows ndis drivers through ndiswrapper
[08:00] <wols> !wireless | r4ym4n
[08:00] <ubotu> r4ym4n: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:00] <arrrghhh> i'm on the box
[08:00] <arrrghhh> reboot time
[08:00] <WaltzingAlong> reboot, what is this ms windows?
[08:00] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[08:00] <mike__> okay
[08:00] <unfo> wols, sudo gdm-setup maybe?
[08:01] <ashu18> ummmm.........no
[08:01] <mike__> so a repository is a place where data is stored
[08:01] <WaltzingAlong> mike__: multiverse
[08:01] <gonzoism> wols he was too impatient to be helped
[08:01] <unfo> wols, or maybe suro gdmsetup
[08:01] <wols> unfo: could be. don't use gdm
[08:01] <mike__> oh gosh
[08:01] <n2diy> Student: ok, when you make up your mind who you are, let me know, ok?
[08:01] <mike__> I remember multiverse
[08:01] <mike__> :o|
[08:01] <mike__> I've got a lot of relearning to do I guess
[08:01] <k1gw1> rebooting is for hardware installation...inf act, if you could add ram without rebooting my box would have an uptime a lot bigger than 28 days
[08:01] <WaltzingAlong> mike__: it will come, no worries ;D
[08:01] <unfo> ashu18, does your CD-ROM drive work when you are using Windows?
[08:01] <polyneux> wols: BIOS reads the drive on the Secondary IDE master, which si where it should be.
[08:01] <wols> unfo: ashu18 said he has no /dev/cdrom. maybe you should check if his kernel detects it at all
[08:02] <Student> n2diy, Senesence is my ident on the forums, Student on #ubuntu - it's an alias but I'm sure you knew that.
[08:02] <WaltzingAlong> k1gw1: :D
[08:02] <ashu18> yes, but it doesn't work with practically ANY Linux distro (i hav tried ubuntu, puppy and madriva)
[08:02] <gonzoism> ashu18 dmesg |grep hd  and dmesg|grep sd  see it in there ?
[08:02] <unfo> wols, he just did sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/null and it is blocking
[08:02] <ashu18> but i don't have windows now!!!!!!
[08:02] <POC-CMS> alguien habla espaol ?
[08:02] <unfo> POC-CMS, si
[08:02] <wols> polyneux: ls -al /proc/ide/ide1/ ? what's in there?
[08:02] <unfo> POC-CMS, you have to go to the ubuntu spanish channel.
[08:03] <unfo> POC-CMS, /join #ubuntu-es
[08:03] <wols> !es| polyneux
[08:03] <ubotu> polyneux: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:03] <wols> doh
[08:03] <wols> !es| POC-CMS
[08:03] <ubotu> POC-CMS: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:03] <POC-CMS> ok, gracias
[08:03] <WaltzingAlong> !es > POC-CMS
[08:03] <WaltzingAlong> de nada
[08:03] <gonzoism> wols that is cool, ubuntu spanish.  :)
[08:03] <unfo> POC-CMS, de nada
[08:03] <polyneux> ...
[08:03] <mike__> what  is Feisty?
[08:03] <wols> gonzoism: pretty much any major language
[08:03] <unfo> gonzoism, there are dozens of channels
[08:03] <wols> mike__: current ubuntu version
[08:03] <arrrghhh> no workie
[08:03] <WaltzingAlong> mike__: it is the name of the release
[08:03] <wols> !feisty
[08:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[08:03] <ashu18> http://pastebin.ca/580696
[08:03] <mike__> ah
[08:04] <mike__> no more dapper :P
[08:04] <mike__> fine fine
[08:04] <mike__> :P
[08:04] <WaltzingAlong> dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[08:04] <WaltzingAlong> nope
[08:04] <wols> arrrghhh: is *gdm in /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[08:04] <WaltzingAlong> ;D
[08:04] <unfo> ashu18, can your bios boot from CD-ROM perfectly well?
[08:04] <arrrghhh> gonzoism, so it said something about trying to resume a session & couldn't, then it loads the text login
[08:04] <mike__> I'm behind the times!
[08:04] <_Ahti_> Is there a Ubuntu IRC Channel in Finnish? I'd be shocked if there wasn't... After all Linux was created in Finland :)
[08:04] <unfo> _Ahti_, probably.  do you speak finnish?
[08:04] <_Ahti_> undo: Yep
[08:04] <ashu18> http://pastebin.ca/580698
[08:04] <wols> !fi
[08:04] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:05] <arrrghhh> wols, yea that's the problem
[08:05] <ashu18> yes, i can boot from cd-rom drive perfectly well
[08:05] <WaltzingAlong> !fi > _Ahti_
[08:05] <unfo> POC-CMS, did it work?
[08:05] <arrrghhh> wols, so can i just add it with any number?  i never really understood that
[08:05] <mike__> I only speak klingon
[08:05] <_Ahti_> mike_: Lol, nerd :P
[08:05] <mike__> :P
[08:05] <mike__> Zug zug
[08:05] <mike__> oh wait
[08:05] <unfo> ashu18, when did the problem start?  how many hours have you spent trying to fix it?
[08:05] <wols> arrrghhh: usually it means the higher the number the later it is run. e.g you have to mount filesystems before you start apache.
[08:05] <xRainbows> hi can i download this fwlanusb-suse102-1.00.00-rc1.tar.gz   to install a FRITZ! USB stick to Edgy
[08:05] <WaltzingAlong> !klingon
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <WaltzingAlong> hehe
[08:05] <mike__> that's orcish
[08:05] <mike__> :P
[08:06] <mike__> what you want
[08:06] <mike__> :P
[08:06] <wols> try S99gdm and link it to ../init.d/gdm
[08:06] <xRainbows> or is there another way?
[08:06] <arrrghhh> wols, okie that makes sense
[08:06] <goodtimes> I just hosed my ubuntu 7.04 xorg config file. I had installed the nvidia drivers through automatix and then later I installed nvidia-glx through apt-get, I cant get X to come back up, help plz, I tried to do a dpkg-reconfigure but after I run this I get the error "no screens found" and the nvidia module is not loaded correctly
[08:06] <wols> !wireless | xRainbows
[08:06] <ubotu> xRainbows: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:06] <WaltzingAlong> goodtimes: yes you mentioned that
[08:06] <tritium> !automatix > goodtimes (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:06] <wols> xRainbows: what does lsusb say? what device is it?
[08:07] <ziroday> goodtimes: NEVER EVER USE automatix for nvidia
[08:07] <goodtimes> k
[08:07] <xRainbows> 1 moment please :D
[08:07] <wols> !automatix | goodtimes
[08:07] <ubotu> goodtimes: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:07] <ashu18> sorry i was disconnected
[08:07] <blackkky> goodtimes, did you make a copy of original xorg.conf ?
[08:07] <gonzoism> goodtimes is there a backup in /etc/X11/ ?
[08:07] <ashu18> did you ask me to do something??
[08:07] <goodtimes> I will look for a backup
[08:07] <unfo> ashu18, when did the problem start?  how many hours have you spent trying to fix it?
[08:07] <wols> ziroday: never ever use automatix, period
[08:07] <goodtimes> I didnt make one
[08:07] <xRainbows>  AVM GmbH
[08:07] <_Ahti_> !WorksForMe
[08:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:07] <gonzoism> ashu18 dmesg |grep hd  and dmesg|grep sd  see it in there ?
[08:07] <blackkky> goodtimes, lol...you need to make a backup before changing things
[08:07] <wols> xRainbows: I know who makes Fritz* equipment. but they don't make their own chips. so what does it say?
[08:07] <ziroday> wols: only if u really really want to reinstall ubuntu lol
[08:08] <gonzoism> hi joejoejoe
[08:08] <gonzoism> ah
[08:08] <polyneux> wols: no such file or directory to ls -al /proc/ide/ide1
[08:08] <ashu18> the problem came with ubuntu.....i hav tried about 30 hours at least trying to fix it
[08:08] <xRainbows> lsusb
[08:08] <xRainbows> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 057c:62ff AVM GmbH
[08:08] <wols> ashu18: paste your full dmesg please. and what chipset do you have?
[08:08] <unfo> ashu18, I suggest you use Fedora Core 7 instead.
[08:08] <gonzoism> ashu18 don't paste it in here, you'll get kicked
[08:08] <ashu18> but i am on limited broadband...i can't download it
[08:08] <goodtimes> I see there is an xorg.conf.backup
[08:08] <goodtimes> nice
[08:09] <blackkky> goodtimes,  - then dont use X :]  its for the best
[08:09] <goodtimes> lets see
[08:09] <blackkky> ok
[08:09] <blackkky> su
[08:09] <blackkky> so
[08:09] <Canti> Trying to convert video to playable dvd
[08:09] <blackkky> sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[08:09] <unfo> ashu18, may i ask: do you live in a large city (500000 or more)?  which?
[08:09] <blackkky> and restart X :] 
[08:09] <blackkky> or.. start X
[08:09] <tritium> !enter | blackkky
[08:09] <ubotu> blackkky: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:09] <mike__> wow
[08:09] <ashu18> yeah i am from bhubaneswar, india
[08:09] <goodtimes> oh hell yes you saved me
[08:09] <blackkky> sry tritium ..damn keyboard
[08:09] <unfo> ashu18, what is the nearest city with 500,000 people?
[08:09] <xRainbows> wols   thats all thats there except for some other lines
[08:09] <mike__> when I run sudo apt-get update
[08:09] <gonzoism> goodtimes :)
[08:09] <mike__> I get a bunch of failures
[08:10] <goodtimes> thank you
[08:10] <gonzoism> mike__  failures about keys, or timeouts ?
[08:10] <goodtimes> how can I uninstall the module that automatix put on?
[08:10] <ashu18> my city has 500000 peope
[08:10] <mike__> No such files or directories
[08:10] <unfo> ashu18, let me look up a Linux User Group near you
[08:10] <wols> xRainbows: if it's source, it can work but you'd have to compile it on your own
[08:10] <wols> and install it on your own too
[08:10] <ashu18> ok, it's Bhubaneswar
[08:10] <mike__> I only know two linux guys and they both worked at Novel
[08:10] <wols> xRainbows: start with getting kernel headers for your kernel and build-essnetial
[08:10] <gonzoism> goodtimes you can uninstall it through automatix, then reinstall, maybe ?  i'd back up the working one first though
[08:11] <xRainbows> oh, that sound like a great task :D  is it ?
[08:11] <mike__> so going to them for help can be a pain
[08:11] <mike__> x_X
[08:11] <mike__> one uses Suse of course
[08:11] <goodtimes> thx for your help
[08:11] <mike__> the other Gentoo
[08:11] <goodtimes> no more automatix for me
[08:11] <goodtimes> :D
[08:11] <goodtimes> time to get beryl working
[08:11] <goodtimes> heh
[08:11] <mike__> dang it
[08:11] <gonzoism> goodtimes or you can go into your /home/user/.automatix, and go through those files looking for the nvidia stuff and make it forget it installed it
[08:11] <ashu18> http://pastebin.ca/580706
[08:11] <unfo> ashu18, i am looking through http://www.meetup.com/cities/in/bhubaneswar/ first
[08:11] <arrrghhh> ok... that didn't work either
[08:11] <mike__> do people install ubuntu now adays for XGL and Beryl...
[08:11] <WaltzingAlong> goodtimes: should be no problem getting beryl working with nvidia and ubuntu/gnome
[08:11] <ashu18> here is my dmesg list
[08:12] <ziroday> mike__: yeah, thats also y ppl buy vista
[08:12] <mike__> ewww
[08:12] <mike__> vista is horrible
[08:12] <blackkky> sc0tt doesnt know that Fiona and me.. do it in my van every sunday :] 
[08:12] <ziroday> mike__: they dont know anything else
[08:12] <mike__> vista = windows ME :OP
[08:12] <wols> mike__: you don't isntall XGL
[08:12] <gonzoism> yuck, vista   i never even installed xp.  98se was when i quit
[08:12] <ashu18> mike_ ,vista is very nice
[08:12] <blackkky> there's google bot here?
[08:12] <blackkky> !google bla
[08:12] <mike__> ugh
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google bla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <mike__> UAC is a pain in the arse
[08:13] <Prof_Bruna> hi
[08:13] <mike__> I love that apple commerical about it
[08:13] <mike__> :OP
[08:13] <arrrghhh> wols, hey that symlink i created is red - i'm assuming that means i created the symbolic link wrong?
[08:13] <wols> mike__: OT
[08:13] <unfo> ashu18, there was this http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-bbsr/ in the year 2006... I don't know if they still exist
[08:13] <mike__> OT?
[08:13] <ziroday> mike__: u kno they proved that without UAC vista is less secure than XP
[08:13] <gonzoism> ashu18 your cdrom is detected
[08:13] <aedes> hmm, my upgrade from edgy to feisty borked
[08:13] <charlie2> Help please: When your in terminal and you push the up arrow key you can see the history of commands you've typed, how do I clear that list? Thanks -please help
[08:13] <wols> arrrghhh: does /etc/init.d/gdm exist? ist gdm installed: dpkg -l |grep gdm
[08:13] <ashu18> so what do i do if the group is still there??
[08:13] <unfo> ashu18, maybe they can give you a Fedora DVD for free or for minimal cost
[08:13] <mike__> hehe of course! it askes you if you want to do anything you want to do!
[08:13] <ysth> trying to update feisty -> gutsy using sudo update-manager -c -d, I got a python error, fixed by adding "import os" to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/DistUpgradeFetcher.py
[08:13] <aedes> the linux-igd package seems to be fscked now
[08:13] <mike__> are you suuuure you want to press that e key
[08:13] <polyneux> Ah...ha
[08:14] <mike__> are you REALLY SURE
[08:14] <arrrghhh> wols, there's no /etc/init.d/gdm, but there is a /etc/gdm...
[08:14] <mike__>  i mean really, do you really need another e in this document
[08:14] <ashu18> gonzoism: how do you know that my cd rom is detected??
[08:14] <gonzoism> ashu18 from your dmesg
[08:14] <ashu18> oh....
[08:14] <mike__> </uac sarcasm> :P
[08:14] <gonzoism> ashu18  run this command  dmesg | grep CD
[08:14] <gonzoism> ashu18 see it there ?
[08:14] <wols> arrrghhh: dpkg -l | grep gdm
[08:15] <ziroday> mike__: offtopic pls
[08:15] <charlie2> HELP: how do you clear the history of commands in the terminal (up arrow key history)
[08:15] <mike__> sorry ziro
[08:15] <mike__> :P
[08:15] <mike__> I'll get back to Myth
[08:15] <mike__> ;)
[08:15] <ziroday> charlie2: gimme a min
[08:15] <unfo> charlie2, history -c maybe?
[08:15] <arrrghhh> wols, ... ok what does that give me?
[08:15] <gonzoism> charlie2 its in .bash_history  you can turn it off with your .bashrc
[08:15] <wols> arrrghhh: if gdm is installed or not
[08:15] <polyneux> wols: Odd, that line you gave me returned nothing, but CD ROM 0 doesnt appear when teh drive is empty, and it reads the cd contents now :/
[08:15] <ashu18> yeah, but why doesn't it accept then??
[08:15] <wols> arrrghhh: are the first two letters "ii" or "rc"?
[08:15] <unfo> k1gw1, I see that Corey Burger forwarded your request to Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind Ubuntu.
[08:15] <gonzoism> charlie2 quick way is to: echo > .bash_history
[08:15] <arrrghhh> ii
[08:15] <charlie2> gonzoism, i'm a noob to linux, how would i turn of history easily?
[08:15] <wols> polyneux: dmesg |grep CD
[08:16] <unfo> k1gw1, thanks for sending it :)
[08:16] <mike__> has anyone had any luck with Myth on Ubuntu?
[08:16] <wols> arrrghhh: ii means it's installed. wonder why /etc/init.d/gdm won't exist then
[08:16] <ashu18> is fedora less trouble some than ubuntu??
[08:16] <unfo> mike__, it is too much work to set up for most people.
[08:16] <mike__> aww
[08:16] <ziroday> ashu18: not really if anything more
[08:16] <unfo> ashu18, i prefer ubuntu but it seems not to be working for you.
[08:16] <mike__> that's too bad
[08:16] <gonzoism> charlie2   run the command  man bashrc   then hit the / key and search for "history"  use the n key to go to the next instance of it until you find it.
[08:16] <mike__> :O\
[08:16] <wols> mike__: ask a specific question when you have a problem
[08:16] <ziroday> mike__: whats myth?
[08:16] <mike__> MythTV
[08:17] <wols> ziroday: mythtv.org
[08:17] <wols> a PVE
[08:17] <wols> PVR
[08:17] <mike__> yep
[08:17] <ziroday> mike__: oh rite sorry mind blank lol
[08:17] <Maz> can someone help me with the sound probem i have? Sound only plays through headphones not the speakers on my notebook any ideas?
[08:17] <mike__> cool app
[08:17] <arrrghhh> wols, i think it started happening after i either installed a new window manger (i was playin with serveral) or my video card crap which i still haven't sorted out
[08:17] <gonzoism> ashu18 your cdrom is /dev/sr0
[08:17] <ziroday> mike__: try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:17] <mike__> is there any decent documentation for getting my system XGL/Beryl afied?
[08:17] <polyneux> wols: You want a paste or somsuch?. It says scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM on the first line, Uniform CD-ROM driver revision 3.20 on the second. and Attached Scsi cd-rom sr0
[08:17] <mike__> sweet Ziro
[08:18] <mike__> :O) tyvm!
[08:18] <gonzoism> ashu18 its in line 285 of your pastebin: [   21.409298]  sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[08:18] <arrrghhh> sheesh how do you copy in xterm?
[08:18] <ziroday> mike__: what card?
[08:18] <mike__> er it's an nvidia
[08:18] <wols> polyneux: now it's detected. wasn't before
[08:18] <mike__> newish
[08:18] <ziroday> mike__: can u do - lspci | grep VGA
[08:18] <wols> mike__: there is no XGL for nevidia.
[08:18] <gonzoism> ashu18 try the command mount /dev/sr0 /mnt when you have a cd in it.   did that work ?
[08:18] <ashu18> i don't understand all these /dev thingy
[08:18] <charlie2> gonzoism: when i do what you told me it says: No manual entry for bashrc
[08:18] <wols> !effects | mike__
[08:18] <ubotu> mike__: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:18] <ziroday> in terminal and tell me what it returns
[08:18] <wols> mike__: step one: get your 3D accleration working
[08:19] <Maz> anyone got any ideas? on this sound problem
[08:19] <wols> ashu18: /dev is the place where all your detected devices have their "access points"
[08:19] <ziroday> maybe bad sound switcher?
[08:19] <polyneux> wols: Just a random phantom of that particular boot? ;.;
[08:19] <gonzoism> ashu18 that is ok.  want to fix it ?
[08:19] <ashu18> yeah of course
[08:19] <gonzoism> ashu18  cool, i didn't know....
[08:19] <gonzoism> ashu18 i'll help
[08:19] <gonzoism> ashu18   run this command:  cat /etc/fstab | grep sr0
[08:19] <Jason_P> I have no idea how to install ubuntu
[08:19] <gonzoism> ashu18 did it say anything back ?
[08:19] <unfo> Jason_P, unfortunately we don't help people by PM here :( do you know why?
[08:19] <Maz> sound plays through headphones not speakers
[08:19] <wols> polyneux: I don't know. but your PC seems to be broken: 40pin IDE cable for that harddisk
[08:19] <ziroday> Jason_P: have u downloaded it?
[08:20] <gonzoism> Jason_P i messaged you... you never answered
[08:20] <wols> polyneux: self built or a shop bought?
[08:20] <ashu18> bash: /dev/sr0: Permission denied
[08:20] <JdGordon> does anyone know if my geeforce2 tvout will work with 7.04 without proprietry drivers?
[08:20] <gonzoism> ashu18   run this command:  cat /etc/fstab | grep sr0
[08:20] <Jason_P> i have it burned to a CD. and why can't you  help people by PM?
[08:20] <ziroday> JdGordon: not without
[08:20] <ashu18> k wait a minute
[08:20] <polyneux> wols: Self built
[08:20] <ziroday> Jason_P: fine il pm u
[08:20] <unfo> ziroday, don't
[08:20] <charlie2> gonzoism, help i did what you told me to turn off history i ran the command:   man bashrc and it said: no manual entry for bashrc how do i stop history?
[08:20] <unfo> Jason_P, because we want to help everyone equally.
[08:20] <Jason_P> gonzoism: i did answer.
[08:20] <ziroday> unfo: my choice :)
[08:20] <JdGordon> ziroday: ok, does 7.04 have support for the neded drivers? I got rid of an old ati card because i couldnt install their drivers...
[08:21] <unfo> ziroday, i know but it sets a bad precedent.
[08:21] <wols> polyneux: then learn how to do it. your harddisk is about 50MB/s too slow
[08:21] <ashu18> nothing happened
[08:21] <gonzoism> charlie2  try http://google.com/linux   i don't remember.  its simple, look it up
[08:21] <ziroday> JdGordon: yeah pretty sure it dies
[08:21] <polyneux> wols: I gues
[08:21] <wols> polyneux: use a 80pin cable
[08:21] <JdGordon> ziroday: ok thanks
[08:21] <ziroday> JdGordon: you prob want in terminal - sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy
[08:21] <wols> polyneux: it's a 320GB pata disk?
[08:21] <unfo> Jason_P, when people start breaking off into PM, then trolling is harder to prevent.  Also, when things go on in public, more people can read and learn.
[08:21] <ziroday> or something like that
[08:22] <unfo> Jason_P, did you try reading the excellent documentation on the ubuntu website?
[08:22] <wols> ziroday: those are proprietary drivers
[08:22] <unfo> ziroday, so what's the story, have people moved off into PM?
[08:22] <gonzoism> ashu18   where did ya go ?
[08:22] <ziroday> wols: he said ok, even if properteiy
[08:22] <ashu18> terminal
[08:22] <polyneux> wols: Oh I know why. I'm using a jury-rigged Sata-IDE adaptor until I get around to switching HDDs/
[08:22] <ziroday> unfo: he hasnt talked to me and i cant b bothered to start :0
[08:22] <ashu18> i mean i am here
[08:22] <ziroday> *:0
[08:23] <gonzoism> ashu18 ah.  k
[08:23] <ashu18> that command doesn't work
[08:23] <unfo> ashu18, there are many excellent distros: Fedora, SuSE, Knoppix, Mepis, ...
[08:23] <unfo> ashu18, why not try one?
[08:23] <Jaguar> Hey guys, Is it here I can get some help other than the wiki/forum/faq pages :)
[08:23] <gonzoism> ashu18 doesn't work like give error or just not give any output back ?
[08:23] <ashu18> i told you, i am on limited broadband
[08:23] <unfo> Jaguar, yes
[08:23] <unfo> ashu18, do you know anyone in a local university?
[08:24] <ashu18> just doesn't give any out put back
[08:24] <wols> unfo: why telling him to use another when it works actually? it's a config thing only
[08:24] <gonzoism> ashu18 good.  that is what i wanted to know
[08:24] <ashu18> i am not into any university yet!!!
[08:24] <charlie2> HELP: How do I disable bash history?
[08:24] <wols> ashu18: grep cdrom /etc/fstab
[08:24] <Jaguar> ok. Im trying to boot my recently downloaded ubuntu x64 distro on a HP Pavilion zv6000 and It just wont boot :) Anyone heard of this?
[08:24] <unfo> charlie2, history -c
[08:24] <gonzoism> ashu18  know any editors ?  vi or emacs or gedit or any of them ?
[08:24] <unfo> charlie2, that clears it.
[08:24] <ashu18> nope
[08:24] <unfo> ashu18, do you know anyone who is studying or teaching computer science at a university?
[08:25] <linuxor> HI, what is the C++Builder equivalent on linux??
[08:25] <gonzoism> ashu18 grep cdrom /etc/fstab
[08:25] <charlie2> I don't want to clear it, I want to disable it
[08:25] <gonzoism> ashu18 run that one too
[08:25] <charlie2> how do i disable bash history
[08:25] <user1__> gcc
[08:25] <unfo> linuxor, kdevelop
[08:25] <unfo> linuxor, but anjuta is also good.
[08:25] <ashu18> well everyone i know is a Windows freak (i was one too)
[08:25] <wols> charlie2: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=bash+disable+history
[08:25] <linuxor> unfo: anjuta with GUI?
[08:25] <unfo> ashu18, do you know anyone in computer science anyway?
[08:25] <gonzoism> charlie2 you turn it off in your .bashrc or .bash_profile   look it up on google or man bash and search that man page
[08:25] <unfo> linuxor, what do you mean "with gui"?
[08:25] <ashu18> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:26] <ashu18> yeah i do....why???
[08:26] <wols> linuxor: does not exist. there are C++ compilers and IDEs. but no RAD like C++Builder. well, there is glade but not really comparable
[08:26] <linuxor> unfo: graphic interface
[08:26] <ziroday> unfo can i pm u about sumthing
[08:26] <unfo> ziroday, ok
[08:26] <gonzoism> ashu18 cool.  is there a cd in the drive ?
[08:26] <unfo> ashu18, i suggest you talk to them and ask if they can borrow or copy a linux cd for you.
[08:26] <Jaguar> Right now I am trying to download the image again and burn it with 1x speed in imgburn to see if that is the problem. I have just seen many people having problems on laptops.
[08:26] <ashu18> yes
[08:26] <linuxor> wols: like what?
[08:26] <wols> as already said, kdevelop, anjutah, rawhide, etc
[08:27] <gonzoism> ashu18 what does the command: ls /media/scd0   say ?
[08:27] <unfo> linuxor, kdevelop and anjuta have nice IDEs.  kdevelop is older and I think more often used.
[08:27] <linuxor> wols: I heard about kylix, what do think?
[08:27] <wols> linuxor: that's not for C++ but delphi and discontinued
[08:27] <unfo> linuxor, kylix OSS becomes "contrib". Don't use kylix.
[08:27] <ashu18> gonzoism: one ridiculous thing happens though.....there is one particular cd which, if i insert BEFORE ubuntu has started (system's still booting), then ubuntu does accept that
[08:28] <linuxor> unfo: ah ok
[08:28] <ashu18> just this particular cd
[08:28] <unfo> ziroday, can i message you in public?
[08:28] <linuxor> wols: thx
[08:28] <wols>  /msg unfo you can message me any time in public
[08:28] <ashu18> ls: /media/scd0: No such file or directory
[08:29] <wols> ashu18: it would be /dev/scr0 or /media/cdrom0
[08:29] <ziroday> unfo: sure lol
[08:29] <unfo> wols, test test can you hear me? :)
[08:29] <marpstar> can anyone help me get my azureus set up to automatically start a torrent upon double-clicking it in fiesty?
[08:29] <unfo> ziroday, may i repeat what you said to me in pm, but in different words?
[08:29] <poweruser1> Question. I'm running Kubuntu on another comp. I know it's normal to see a blank screen after restarting X, but how long does it last, or do I need to type something?
[08:29] <ziroday> unfo: certaintly
[08:29] <unfo> poweruser1, press Shift
[08:29] <ashu18> ls: /dev/scr0: No such file or directory
[08:29] <wols>  /msg unfo no. I don't think you msged me
[08:30] <wols> ashu18: /dev/sr0
[08:30] <unfo>  /msg wols odd.
[08:30] <unfo>  /msg I dunno why
[08:30] <sorsis> i wasa installing mono development packages but pre-installation script return error code 100 while installing. what's wrong?
[08:30] <wols> poweruser1: shouldn't last long. no need to type anything
[08:30] <ashu18> /dev/sr0
[08:30] <ashu18>  (this is the output)
[08:30] <wols> sorsis: full commandline and it's output please
[08:30] <wols> sorsis: in a pastebin
[08:30] <unfo> ziroday, so you explained to me that Jason P did not click Next, so Ubuntu did not install.
[08:30] <unfo> ziroday, we do not know if he was really mistaken or not
[08:30] <ashu18> nothing happens with ls /media/cdrom0
[08:31] <wols> ashu18: which means it exists. sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0
[08:31] <unfo> ziroday, that is why we suggest in general that people not help by PM.
[08:31] <unfo> ziroday, :)
[08:31] <gonzoism> ashu18 ok, how about ls /media/cdrom0 ?
[08:31] <ziroday> unfo: learnt my lesson :)
[08:31] <gonzoism> ashu18 it should be in there
[08:31] <ashu18> there is no output
[08:31] <poweruser1> Shift didn't do anything
[08:31] <gonzoism> ashu18 ah.  k
[08:31] <sorsis> wols: i was using synaptic and error message is quite small. can i somehow retrive full message?
[08:31] <wols> gonzoism: that is empty as he already said
[08:31] <ziroday> unfo: mind u mini wars with the scrollers is never fun
[08:31] <poweruser1> And it's been lasting for about 5 min
[08:32] <unfo> sorsis, sudo aptitude install WhateverYouWant
[08:32] <wols> sorsis: sudo apt-get install the package you had the error with
[08:32] <gonzoism> ashu18 type the command mount and press enter, and see if it says anything about a cdrom or sr0 or anything
[08:32] <unfo> sorsis, oops wrong caps.
[08:32] <unfo> sorsis, actually sudo aptitude install whateveryouwant
[08:32] <gonzoism> ashu18 it will probably be the last line or 2
[08:32] <unfo> ziroday, if it is busy then you can always break out to #linux or even #chat
[08:32] <Thomas__> I'm trying to configure postfix to use spamass-milter, but postfix complains about: unix:/var/run/sendmail/spamass.sock: No such file or directory
[08:32] <Thomas__> This file does exist
[08:32] <ziroday> unfo: yeah usually i go to #guruhelp
[08:33] <wols> Thomas__: psotfix runs ina chroot probably
[08:33] <ashu18> http://pastebin.ca/580723
[08:33] <ashu18> and the cursor just blinks stupidly if i type:
[08:33] <wols> ashu18: did you run the mount command I told you?
[08:33] <iwaksepat> anyone wanna give me a ubuntu t-shirt
[08:33] <unfo> Thomas__, i dunno anything about postfix, but i know that one good channel for help is #postfix. :-)
[08:33] <iwaksepat> plz
[08:33] <unfo> iwaksepat, ?
[08:33] <ashu18> yeah i did.....the cursor just blinks
[08:34] <poweruser1> What is the usual procedure for restarting x, just so I know
[08:34] <fivetwentysix> I don't think any of my applications in Wine are making sound
[08:34] <wols> unfo: they _hate_ postfix in chroot. a LOT
[08:34] <unfo> iwaksepat, you can buy them online
[08:34] <unfo> wols, oh :(
[08:34] <qnyc> poweruser1, ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:34] <unfo> poweruser1, if you press Control+Alt+Backspace it will delete all your unsaved work
[08:34] <unfo> poweruser1, and restart X
[08:35] <Thomas__> wols: Ubuntu runs it as root?
[08:35] <poweruser1> I pressed ctrl alt backspace
[08:35] <Thomas__> chroot, rather
[08:35] <poweruser1> And now all I have is a blank screen
[08:35] <poweruser1> And have had it for 10 min
[08:35] <wols> Thomas__: in a chroot. and to a degree any MTA needs to run as root
[08:35] <unfo> fivetwentysix, does rhythmbox play music OK?
[08:35] <sorsis> wols: i got the full message. it's here http://pastebin.com/933180  but part of it is in finnish, but you should be able to understand most of it.
[08:35] <sorsis> unfo: upper line
[08:36] <unfo> sorsis, LANG=C sudo aptitude install whateveryouwant
[08:36] <ashutosh> hey i am so sorry i am getting disconnected
[08:36] <brad016> will the latest version of limewire work for windows work in wine?
[08:36] <unfo> brad016, use frostwire for linux
[08:36] <ashutosh> did you ask me to do anything now??
[08:36] <Thomas__> wols: master.cf doesn't have any 'y' to chroot
[08:36] <wols> barnie: #winehq
[08:36] <unfo> fivetwentysix, does rhythmbox play music OK?
[08:37] <poweruser1> Nothing
[08:37] <Thomas__> wols: So nothing runs as chroot as far as I can see
[08:37] <ashutosh> hello?????
[08:37] <brad016> unfo, I tried it, i was bringing up the chat windows and it took more than 6 hours so i gave up
[08:37] <gonzoism> ashutosh hi
[08:37] <unfo> ashutosh, hi
[08:37] <wols> Thomas__: who should create the socket: /var/run/sendmail/spamass.sock? I guess spamassassin?
[08:37] <gonzoism> who is helping ashutosh  ?
[08:37] <unfo> brad016, try aMule.  That's what I use and it's superb.
[08:37] <wols> Thomas__: does the socket exist?
[08:37] <ashutosh> i am ashu18
[08:37] <gonzoism> i know
[08:38] <fivetwentysix> unfo how can i tell?
[08:38] <unfo> fivetwentysix, start > sound > rhythmbox
[08:38] <wols> ashutosh: did you try the mount command?
[08:38] <brad016> unfo, Okay, I have the windows one setting up right now and i'll see how it goes
[08:38] <unfo> fivetwentysix, play a MP3 file
[08:38] <unfo> fivetwentysix, any sound?
[08:38] <Thomas__> wols: Hmm, '-' => chroot too ?
[08:38] <gonzoism> ashutosh i'll help you
[08:38] <ashutosh> yeah....the cursor just keeps blinking
[08:38] <brad016> unfo, do you have to compile aMule?
[08:38] <unfo> brad016, important rule
[08:38] <Thomas__> clearly
[08:38] <unfo> NEVER COMPILE ANYTHING :)
[08:38] <poweruser1> Can someone please help me? I' ve had a blank screen after restarting X for about 15 min now
[08:38] <burner> fivetwentysix: or use totem, it'd be quicker than waiting for rb to import mp3s
[08:38] <gonzoism> ashutosh did you mount something ?
[08:38] <fivetwentysix> rofl
[08:38] <wols> Thomas__: iirc: yes
[08:39] <fivetwentysix> I just realised my speakers were off
[08:39] <ashutosh> wols asked me to type
[08:39] <wols> unfo: some kernel modules...
[08:39] <unfo> wols, fine
[08:39] <ashutosh> sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0
[08:39] <ziroday> unfo: latest ndiswrapper
[08:39] <wols> ashutosh: no prompt anymore?
[08:39] <unfo> brad016, in Add/Remove Programs you can get hundreds and hundreds of applications.
[08:39] <ashutosh> no
[08:39] <Thomas__> wols: Is chrooted postfix an ubuntu/debian-thingy?
[08:39] <wols> no message about a read only warning?
[08:39] <gonzoism> ashutosh awesome.  what is in /media/cdrom0 ?  the cd contents ?
[08:39] <burner> poweruser1: i assume someone shared dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg already?  if not, try it!
[08:39] <wols> Thomas__: mostly yes
[08:39] <sorsis> unfo: both aptitude and synaptic use dpkg to install packages. i'm quite sure that it is not vecause of ui i'm using.
[08:40] <wols> Thomas__: but: postfix has explicit support for it... even if #postfix hates it
[08:40] <brad016> unfo,  okay but there not all up-to-date, but if you install apps through the terminal is that the same from the ad/remove?
[08:40] <gonzoism> ashutosh is that your cd in there ?  did it work ?
[08:40] <wols> brad016: yes
[08:40] <ashutosh> no, nothing in there
[08:41] <ziroday> brad016: if u use apt-get then yes
[08:41] <ziroday> or aptitude
[08:41] <ashutosh> did you read what i said about ubuntu accepting one particular cd???
[08:41] <gonzoism> ashutosh k
[08:41] <sorsis> unfo: like i said. asp.net2-examples had depency problems.
[08:41] <brad016> ziroday, what else could you use
[08:41] <ziroday> brad016: dpkg
[08:41] <sorsis> unfo even aptitude would't have installed it normally.
[08:41] <gonzoism> ashutosh type eject and hit enter
[08:41] <brad016> ziroday, were is that source
[08:42] <brad016> ziroday, come from?
[08:42] <Thomas__> wols: Removed chroot, and it sort of worked, a new error message, at least
[08:42] <gonzoism> ashutosh  did your cdrom eject ?
[08:42] <poweruser1> Can someone please help me? I' ve had a blank screen after restarting X for about 15 min now
[08:42] <ziroday> brad016: sorry i dont follow, what are you meaning?
[08:42] <ashutosh> it does if the cdrom is empty
[08:42] <wols> Thomas__: work with the crhoot. it'S a pain sometimes but do it
[08:42] <ziroday> poweruser1: restart
[08:42] <gonzoism> poweruser1 hit alt-ctrl-F1
[08:42] <poweruser1> Ok, one sec
[08:43] <brad016> ziroday, The apt-get comes from the ubuntu repository, were does the dpkg come from
[08:43] <gonzoism> poweruser1 then log in.  then run the command, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:43] <gonzoism> ashutosh ok.  so it ejects ?
[08:43] <ziroday> brad016: oh rite those are local .deb files u save on your hard drive
[08:43] <gonzoism> ashutosh run the command file /dev/cdrom for me
[08:43] <ashutosh> only if there is no cd
[08:44] <brad016> ziroday, okay
[08:44] <ashutosh> it's not ejeceting now
[08:44] <gonzoism> ashutosh ok, run the command, sudo eject
[08:44] <brad016> ziroday, is there some simple stupid way to install binary's?
[08:44] <ziroday> brad016: like ?
[08:44] <mike__> are we not able to download the packages necessary for xgl/beryl atm?
[08:44] <mike__> I keep getting errors
[08:44] <ashutosh> dev/cdrom: ERROR: cannot open `dev/cdrom' (No such file or directory)
[08:45] <unfo> brad016, I have been using linux for 5 years.  Whenever I want software, I look in the package repository like Add/Remove.  It gets me recent software with very little hassle.
[08:45] <mike__> I have my 3d acceleration working now
[08:45] <unfo> brad016, forget .debs, forget compiling
[08:45] <ashutosh> again the cursor just keeps bliking, it won't eject
[08:45] <ziroday> mike__: no but if your nvidia you DONT NEED XGL
[08:45] <gonzoism> ashutosh ok, now run the command file /dev/cdrom*
[08:45] <unfo> brad016, you will be very happy with just using Add/Remove.
[08:45] <brad016> ziroday, got you
[08:45] <mike__> okay okay!
[08:45] <mike__> :P
[08:45] <mike__> it doesn't say that in the support doc
[08:45] <ziroday> mike__: xgl is a dirty hack for ati users cause they have rubbish drivers
[08:45] <mike__> hehe
[08:45] <wols> !beryl | mike__
[08:45] <ubotu> mike__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:45] <ashutosh> /dev/cdrom: symbolic link to `scd0'
[08:45] <ziroday> mike__: we nvidia drivers use the glowing gold AIGLX
[08:46] <ziroday> *usera
[08:46] <ziroday> *users
[08:46] <gonzoism> ashutosh  ok.  run the command, mount |grep scd0
[08:47] <gonzoism> ashutosh also, is it a music cd you have in there or a data cd ?
[08:47] <BadRobot> hi there
[08:47] <ashutosh> a data cd
[08:47] <ziroday> !welcome | BadRobot
[08:47] <gonzoism> good
[08:47] <ubotu> BadRobot: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[08:47] <ashutosh> it has some family photos
[08:47] <poweruser1> That command didn't work
[08:47] <gonzoism> poweruser1 just blinked some more ?
[08:47] <ziroday> poweruser1: you need to restart
[08:47] <poweruser1> I'll try that
[08:47] <ashutosh> this command doesn't work....no output...back to the promp line
[08:48] <ashutosh> prompt
[08:48] <brad016> ziroday, I was just asking couse it's version  of wine is very out-of-date and the first day 0.9.39 came out I got the binary's and had to wait two days for the compiled version to come out, drove me crazy
[08:48] <gonzoism> ashutosh ok.
[08:48] <poweruser1> The shift ctrl f1 worked
[08:48] <poweruser1> But the command didn't
[08:48] <poweruser1> Gonna restart
[08:48] <gonzoism> k
[08:48] <BadRobot> could anyone help,i'm having problems with Duplicate sources.list entry on the reposories,how can i remove them?
[08:48] <mike__> when I run apt-get update
[08:48] <BadRobot> hi ubotu
[08:48] <mike__> I run into severl no such file or directory errors
[08:48] <mike__> several
[08:48] <ashutosh> are we getting any closer to the solution???? i have to salute myself for keeping patience for 27 days.....
[08:48] <gonzoism> ashutosh we are.
[08:49] <wols> !easysource mike__
[08:49] <wols> !easysource |mike__
[08:49] <ziroday> brad016: oh rite lol, well theres this hack called checkinstall which basically adds it as a .deb to apt after install, for easy removal
[08:49] <ubotu> mike__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:49] <unfo> brad016, you can use a 2-week-old wine.  You'll live. :)
[08:49] <ziroday> BadRobot: delete that bad entry
[08:49] <ashutosh> did u read what i said about ubuntu accepting a particular cd??? it accepts this one
[08:49] <BadRobot> what's your problem ashutosh
[08:49] <mike__> what is a sources list? is it a list of servers that provides updates?
[08:49] <BadRobot> ?
[08:49] <brad016> unfo, haha
[08:49] <mike__> sorry trying to fit into the paradigm that is linux
[08:49] <ziroday> mike__: its a list of repos
[08:50] <mike__> x_X
[08:50] <prometheus> hey every1... does anyone know how to setup samba shares? i want to share stuff to my xbox (xbmc)
[08:50] <gonzoism> ashutosh no.  what did you say ?
[08:50] <unfo> brad016, if you really care about latest and greatest, though, I suggest FreeBSD Unix.  It is made for experts.
[08:50] <BadRobot> how could i delete the bad entry?Via terminal?
[08:50] <gonzoism> brad016 linuxfromscratch is pretty cool
[08:50] <brad016> unfo, I only got into Linux about 7 mounths ago and have far to go before considerig UNIX
[08:50] <unfo> brad016, FreeBSD comes with something called the ports tree which lets you build whatever you want.
[08:50] <ziroday> BadRobot: in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then delete the bad entry
[08:50] <ashutosh> well if i insert this cd BEFORE ubuntu has started (when the computer's still booting), then the CD icon appears on the desktop (it accepts it)
[08:51] <BadRobot> C'mon ubotu ,get up of hiding,give some help overhere
[08:51] <gonzoism> ashutosh ah
[08:51] <gonzoism> ashutosh see my /pm ?
[08:51] <BadRobot> thx ziroday
[08:51] <brad016> unfo,  FreeBSD it is, and isn't part  of the Mac OS X kernel "Darwin" built off of FreeBSD?
[08:51] <ziroday> ubotu is a bot
[08:51] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[08:51] <unfo> brad016, it is loosely based.
[08:51] <unfo> brad016, for example, this will get me the most recent wine in FreeBSD: cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine ; sudo make install distclean
[08:52] <mike__> sweet I have the sources list
[08:52] <mike__> where do I put this?
[08:52] <prometheus> es anyone know how to setup samba shares? i want to share stuff to my xbox (xbmc)
[08:52] <brad016> unfo, ya cause I feel OS X has been more Linux like since OS X
[08:52] <unfo> brad016, it downloads and builds g++ and the dependencies for me, then it downloads, builds, and installs wine.
[08:52] <mike__> lol
[08:52] <mike__> that's because it's based off of FreeBSD Brad
[08:52] <brad016> unfo,  is g++ some prog language like C++?
[08:52] <ziroday> mike__: what are u doing?
[08:53] <mike__> their implementation is called Darwin
[08:53] <mike__> trying to get Beryl installed :O)
[08:53] <poweruser1> ziroday: I restarted. Same screen.
[08:53] <gonzoism> ashu18 :)
[08:53] <BadRobot> how do i know which is bad entry?zeroday
[08:53] <ziroday> poweruser1: thats not good
[08:53] <unfo> brad016, it's the Gnu c++ compiler, made by the great man Richard Stallman and his team.
[08:53] <ashu18> i am getting disconnected!!!!
[08:53] <ruks>  i use azureus to dl torrents and i need to burn the .bin file as an image.....i dont know how im new to linux and am using feisty fawn,gnomebaker is my burning program,when i go to tools and burn cd image,it doesnt list the .bin file as a burnable cd image,is there a way i can burn the .bin as an image?
[08:53] <tonsofpcs> hey, I got a dell [yea, yea, I know, cut the jokes] , and I left the diagnostic partition and want to boot into it, but for some reason, when i go to run it, it runs the text mode [contained in the bios?]  and prepares to 'load the graphical diagnostic partition', then it loads grub.  What can I do in grub to force the loading of the proper partition (its /dev/sda1 in nix)?
[08:53] <ziroday> poweruser1: have u just changed your xserver?
[08:53] <brad016> unfo,  got-ya
[08:53] <gonzoism> ashu18 want me to ssh in and fix it.  it would probably take like 1 minute for me to figure out and fix.
[08:53] <poweruser1> I was updating my gfx driver
[08:53] <ninja> hi
[08:53] <unfo> hi
[08:54] <mike__> when I try to apt-get it
[08:54] <mike__> or update
[08:54] <mike__> I get a bunch of file not found errors
[08:54] <ashu18> of course...u can do whatever u like
[08:54] <brad016> unfo, is FreeBSD Linux or UNIX?
[08:54] <unfo> brad016, richard stallman is a funny guy who makes long speeches about Free Software but he's written a ton of stuff like gcc, emacs, cp, mv, ls, and more
[08:54] <unfo> brad016, unix.
[08:54] <ninja> Can enyone tell me about some good tutorial for c++ on unix
[08:54] <ziroday> poweruser1: in terminal - dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:54] <gonzoism> ashu18 cool  have ssh installed ?
[08:54] <unfo> ninja, why do you want to learn c++?  why not python or Ruby on Rails?
[08:54] <ziroday> *dpkg-reconfigure
[08:54] <ashu18> what's that????
[08:54] <mike__> No Ruby on Rails!
[08:54] <mike__> don't support the crackheaded dutchman!
[08:54] <unfo> brad016, unix, but it looks just like ubuntu.
[08:55] <brad016> unfo, I'll look him up, I love tech comedy, everyone in this channel can relate
[08:55] <gonzoism> ashu18 sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:55] <corevette> beautiful: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Beryl_Compiz_Compiz_Fusion_Tons_of_beautiful_features
[08:55] <ninja> why ruby
[08:55] <gonzoism> ashu18 run that command
[08:55] <unfo> brad016, not ha-ha funny.  serious.  too serious.
[08:55] <brad016> unfo, ot uses the Gnue evironment
[08:55] <BadRobot> sorry ziraday,i know we are keeping you busy,but how do i know which is a bad source?
[08:55] <ninja> i don't know anything about ruby
[08:55] <unfo> brad016, read his GNU Manifesto if you're interested.
[08:55] <unfo> ninja, what languages do you know?
[08:55] <ziroday> BadRobot: what do u mean
[08:55] <ruks> can anyone help me with that
[08:55] <ninja> c
[08:55] <ashu18> is it small or big??? i am running out of my broadband limit
[08:55] <mike__> I can hardly understand a word that man is saying
[08:56] <unfo> ninja, perl? java? sh?
[08:56] <gonzoism> ashu18 very small
[08:56] <ninja> little sh
[08:56] <unfo> mike__, you mean RMS?
[08:56] <ashu18> ok, wait a min
[08:56] <mike__> hehe
[08:56] <mike__> yes unfo
[08:56] <mike__> he talks
[08:56] <mike__> very fast
[08:57] <mike__> and broken
[08:57] <unfo> mike__, you also read the gnu manifesto. :)
[08:57] <ziroday> !enter | mike__
[08:57] <ubotu> mike__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:57] <BadRobot> ,i'm having problems with Duplicate sources.list entry on the reposories,how can i remove them
[08:57] <ashu18> did it, now what??
[08:57] <ziroday> BadRobot: post ur sources to pastebin and ill find it for u :0
[08:57] <gonzoism> ashu18 run the passwd command and pick out a new temporary password to give to me
[08:57] <mike__> he is no doubt smart, but def on crack
[08:58] <BadRobot> i already did sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,but there are too many line
[08:58] <BadRobot> s
[08:58] <ziroday> BadRobot: do u know what pastebin is>
[08:58] <ziroday> ??
[08:58] <BadRobot> how do i past bin.What is the site?
[08:58] <ziroday> !pastebin
[08:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:58] <BadRobot> I know what it is
[08:58] <gonzoism> !pastebin | mike__
[08:58] <ubotu> mike__: please see above
[08:58] <BadRobot> thx
[08:59] <unfo> mike__, brad016: oops not the Gnu Manifesto, but the GNU-PROJECT file.  http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html
[08:59] <ninja> unfo what language u know
[08:59] <brad016> unfo, that was the problem, thax
[08:59] <unfo> ninja, lisp, perl, some python/java/etc.
[08:59] <ninja> and what is the most usefull
[08:59] <unfo> ninja, c sucks.  It has no garbage collector or refcounting.
[09:00] <poweruser1> \Well
[09:00] <poweruser1> It prompted me to set it up
[09:00] <poweruser1> So I just used defaults
[09:00] <ninja> I know
[09:00] <poweruser1> That's ok, right?
[09:00] <unfo> ninja, i think python is the best overall scripting language, but perl is good too
[09:00] <gonzoism> ashu18 pick one out ?
[09:00] <ashu18> hey couldn't get what u told
[09:00] <mike__> Well, I'm going to give up on trying to make Ubuntu pretty. I guess i'll just use it as a LAMP box
[09:00] <ashu18> what command do i run??? "passwd"
[09:00] <unfo> ninja, you only know c?  did you ever try learning another language?
[09:00] <ninja> i want to learn c++ then try java
[09:00] <gonzoism> ashu18 run the command passwd and pick out a simple temp. pass for me to log in with
[09:01] <ashu18> k
[09:01] <gonzoism> ashu18 but i wouldn't put it in here.  i would /msg it to me.
[09:01] <ninja> I read about html,java script
[09:01] <BadRobot> i did the paste bin already
[09:01] <gonzoism> ashu18 start off the line with /msg when you type in here, and it will /msg it to me
[09:02] <poweruser1> Ziroguy: Ok to use defaults right? It loaded back up. I guess it's installed now. Thanks
[09:02] <poweruser1> You too Gonzoism
[09:02] <poweruser1> I'll stay put for a lil longer to make sure
[09:02] <gonzoism> poweruser1 :)
[09:02] <unfo> ninja, javascript is a fine language, when used for AJAX web development like gmail.com uses
[09:02] <ashu18> i am mad
[09:02] <unfo> ninja, you should learn a new language other than C.
[09:02] <JeeP[S2] > chuck norris is so tough theres no chin under his beard - theres only another fist
[09:03] <gonzoism> ashu18 why ?  getting frustrated ?
[09:03] <imbecile> does anyone know how to remove window decoration for conky in gnome?
[09:03] <ashu18> did u get the password??
[09:03] <gonzoism> ashu18 i don't think so.  try again
[09:03] <ninja> anyone to tell me a good tutorial for C++
[09:04] <gonzoism> ninja try google
[09:04] <Kprofthreat> Gonzoism/Ziroguy, this is the kubuntu you saved. Lol
[09:04] <gonzoism> ninja  there are lots. 99% are good.
[09:04] <ninja> google is miracle
[09:04] <Frogzoo> imbecile: conky -h
[09:04] <ashu18> got it??
[09:04] <gonzoism> ashu18 i sure didn't. i'm sorry.
[09:04] <ashu18> oh i ma posting it here then - 123456
[09:05] <gonzoism> lol
[09:05] <imbecile> Frogzoo,  thanks thats like the 20th time ive asked and I finally got an answer
[09:05] <ashu18> now??
[09:06] <gonzoism> ashu18 type screen -
[09:06] <gonzoism> ashu18 screen -x
[09:06] <ashu18> output : Attaching from inside of screen?
[09:07] <gonzoism> yeah.  :)  see me ?
[09:07] <ashu18> yep
[09:08] <gonzoism> lol, yes is a command that does that
[09:08] <gonzoism> :)
[09:10] <ashu18> hey let me put in a different cd...i am sure ubuntu won't read it
[09:11] <ashu18> it's weird!!!
[09:13] <actualandrew> hi, i have feisty fawn, and my display looks incredibly washed out... like the brightness is turned up too high... its not though, i just installed ubuntu, is there a way i can adjust the brightness?
[09:14] <actualandrew> ati rage pro pci 8 meg ram
[09:15] <dimebar> actualandrew: can you change the settings on the monitor?
[09:15] <ashu18> did it
[09:15] <actualandrew> yes, but it doesnt make it better
[09:15] <actualandrew> i downloaded the ati drivers on winxp and it came with a tool to adjust the brightness on the card
[09:15] <brad016> does anyone know how to get laid?
[09:15] <actualandrew> i was wondering if there was something similar for ubuntu
[09:16] <ashu18> it is the kubuntu live cd
[09:17] <ashu18> it is really weird!!!!!!1
[09:18] <gonzoism> ashu18 ok, i see
[09:18] <gonzoism> ashu18 do all cds do that ?
[09:18] <ashu18> yes all except that one....
[09:19] <smds> hello
[09:19] <gonzoism> ashu18 that is odd.  i see why it would make you mad
[09:19] <gonzoism> ashu18 press ctrl-a ctrl-a
[09:19] <ashu18> everything on my system is ok....i was thinking i had jumbled up something
[09:20] <actualandrew> 3D Rage Pro 215GP - there an ubuntu tool to adjust brightness for this card?
[09:20] <ashu18> where??
[09:20] <gonzoism> ashu18 on the screen
[09:20] <gonzoism> ashu18 where i am typing
[09:20] <ashu18> yeah i did
[09:20] <NeoGeo64> Who here uses Linux?
[09:21] <MISTERTibbs> !help
[09:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:21] <DShepherd> NeoGeo64, thats a trick question?
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> no
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> just wondering how many linux people are here
[09:21] <MISTERTibbs> duh, i use linux coach.
[09:21] <nullkuhl> NeoGeo64: lol
[09:21] <actualandrew> !3D Rage Pro 215GP
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> since freenode has more linux users than any irc network probably
[09:21] <gonzoism> ashu18 dmesg shows the errors its getting from the cdrom
[09:21] <nullkuhl> guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?
[09:22] <ashu18> but ti's not showing any error
[09:22] <segagman> ok om here
[09:22] <nullkuhl> segagman: can u help me  ?
[09:22] <gonzoism> ashu18 ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[09:22] <Yodude> hey is there anyway i can change the language ubuntu uses just for one account ?
[09:22] <gonzoism> wols you still around ?
[09:23] <gonzoism> wols  why is he getting this error ?  ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen   its ashu18's
[09:23] <techbee> hello all
[09:23] <ashu18> well...it's like teaching english to a pig....
[09:23] <nullkuhl>  guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset conne ?
[09:23] <ashu18> i still don't understand anything
[09:23] <gonzoism> Yodude yeah, you can set that in your .bashrc  LANG=es or en or whatever, it
[09:24] <Yodude> gonzoism: i don't understand plz explain
[09:24] <nullkuhl>  guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset connection ?
[09:24] <gonzoism> that dd command is frozen.  hit ctrl-a <spacebar>
[09:25] <gonzoism> ashu18 that dd command is frozen.  hit ctrl-a <spacebar> until you see that new screen.
[09:25] <techbee> i  m using  ubuntu  6.06  , i found the  strangly system reboot itself
[09:26] <MISTERTibbs> techbee, why not upgrade to feisty??
[09:26] <imbecile> what is a good tool for managing my ipod?
[09:26] <MISTERTibbs> imbecile:  realplayer for linux
[09:26] <nullkuhl>  guys.. any one know how to install btsco for bluetooth headset connection ?
[09:26] <gonzoism> Yodude yeah,  edit .bashrc  (gedit) then make one line that says, LANG=  and the language code.  it=italian es=espanol, en=english  what language do you want ?
[09:27] <Yodude> gonzoism: and where can i find that file ?
[09:27] <godtvisken> Gimp just crashed and deleted my original saved work. Is there a way to get it back? (I mean, I actually had the file saved and was making a change, and now the file IS GONE)
[09:27] <MISTERTibbs> gonzoism, that will only effect the single user or all accounts?
[09:27] <gonzoism> yodude its in your ~  your /home/user/.bashrc
[09:28] <Yodude> gonzoism: ok thnkx a lot man u really helped :) i need this so that my mum will understand ubuntu
[09:28] <gonzoism> MISTERTibbs only one account.  the account that it is in the home folder of.  like /home/user/   user's .bashrc can set the LANG
[09:28] <techbee> MISTERTibbs: i found this bug is there for long time , do you  have suggestion tio fix it
[09:28] <gonzoism> Yodude  you can google it too. Yodude what language ?
[09:28] <MISTERTibbs> techbee, sorry, I don't have clue.
[09:29] <Yodude> gonzoism: french
[09:29] <techbee> MISTERTibbs::(
[09:29] <gonzoism> Yodude   try the command: set LANG=fr   did that do it ?
[09:30] <gonzoism> Yodude mine is  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[09:30] <Yodude> gonzoism: well i'm not into her accunt no, but i will keep a note of that command in Tomboy
[09:30] <gonzoism> to make that permanent, edit her .bashrc and make one line say: LANG=fr
[09:31] <gonzoism> Yodude you can ask in the french ubuntu channel too, if that language code isn't corrent
[09:31] <Yodude> gonzoism: thnkx, man windows can NEVER do that kind of thing, i;'m surprised
[09:31] <Jaguar> I love Ubuntu :D Now it boots up on my laptop... Just needed a new image and a slow burn on a better quality cdrom :D
[09:31] <gonzoism> Yodude might try it out real quick
[09:31] <gonzoism> Yodude i'll test it
[09:32] <Montaro> nullkuhl: apt-get install bluez-btsco
[09:33] <nullkuhl> Montaro: done, but when try to modprobe snd-bt-sco i get this : FATAL: Error inserting snd_bt_sco (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/snd-bt-sco.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:33] <TaJMoX> !info bluez-btsco
[09:33] <ubotu> bluez-btsco: Bluez Bluetooth SCO tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.50-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 56 kB, installed size 160 kB
[09:33] <Montaro> nullkuhl: what does dmesg say about it?
[09:33] <gonzoism> Yodude doesn't seem to be working for me....   its easy, google it http://google.com/linux
[09:34] <Yodude> gonzoism: k i'll do that :)
[09:34] <Yodude> lol btw tux seems so cute in that google logo
[09:34] <Yodude> hehe
[09:35] <gonzoism> Yodude   oh hey
[09:35] <nullkuhl> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <gonzoism> Yodude i didn't think about it but that will probably just affect bash.  not like kde or gnome.  in the menus, there should be an entry to change language
[09:36] <ashu18> gonzoism: u there??
[09:36] <nullkuhl> Montaro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26562/
[09:36] <nullkuhl> Montaro: u still there ?
[09:36] <Yodude> gonzoism: i use gnome, do you think it's System-Administration-Languages
[09:36] <Yodude> gonzoism: i can click a checkboz next to a languageto add support for it
[09:36] <Yodude> gonzoism: but i don't know if i can enable it just for one account
[09:37] <ashu18> gonzoism: what's the password?? i can't log in
[09:37] <gonzoism> Yodude yeah, use her account.  she doesn't have sudo access does she ?
[09:37] <gonzoism> ashu18  its my nick, gonzoism.
[09:37] <ashu18> oh....
[09:37] <actualandrew> hey, is there a way to recover a password for your nick?
[09:37] <ashu18> ubuntu just hangs soooooooooooo often....
[09:38] <Yodude> gonzoism: no she is only a desktop user
[09:38] <RoC_MM> not for me
[09:38] <brad016> ashu18, what does that mean
[09:38] <ashu18> btw, can u do anything else????
[09:38] <gonzoism> ashu18 sorry about that. you have a hardware problem.  is it a laptop or box ?
[09:38] <nullkuhl> Montaro:
[09:38] <Yodude> gonzoism: wait i'll log into hr account
[09:38] <ashu18> desktop
[09:38] <nullkuhl> Montaro: ??
[09:38] <Yodude> gonzoism: brb
[09:38] <gonzoism> Yodude  log in as her, then go through the menus.  yep
[09:38] <Montaro> nullkuhl: maybe its built for a different kernel, have you tried to apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade to ensure you are running the latest kernel
[09:38] <_Bruce_> where are the color settings in ubuntu???
[09:38] <ashu18> anyway, thank you SOOOOOOOOOOOO much for ur help
[09:38] <gonzoism> ashu18 k, um.  want to buy a $20 cdrw ?
[09:39] <ashu18> k, but where??
[09:39] <nullkuhl> Montaro: yess
[09:39] <MISTERTibbs> _Bruce_, System>Theme
[09:39] <gonzoism> ashu18 they are 52x and $20 or $30 from tigerdirect.com
[09:39] <Tremitos> Hello
[09:39] <MISTERTibbs> hey Tremit
[09:39] <gonzoism> ashu18 i always get the cheapest.  i don't know why your cdrom was so funny
[09:39] <ashu18> u mean there's a defect in the cd rw???
[09:39] <gonzoism> ashu18 that is a odd problem
[09:40] <ashu18> yeah...i know
[09:40] <Montaro> nullkuhl: try built it from source perhaps?
[09:40] <nomad111> hey all anyone know any good pdf printer packages
[09:40] <gonzoism> ashu18 no. i don't think so.  didn't you say that the other distros handled the cdrom just fine ?
[09:40] <gonzoism> nomad111 to print out pdf ?
[09:40] <nomad111> i want to print (save) a couple of pages to pdf
[09:40] <nomad111> yes
[09:40] <nomad111> similar to adobe pdf professional
[09:40] <_Bruce_> MISTERTibbs,no i mean brightness,contrast....
[09:40] <ashu18> no, i said that NO linux distro that i hav tried reads that cd rom (ubuntu, kubuntu, puppy, madriva)
[09:40] <ashu18> but windows did
[09:41] <MISTERTibbs> _Bruce_, hmm.  let me check
[09:41] <gonzoism> nomad111 like to save to the pdf format, or to print pdf files to printer ?
[09:41] <nomad111> yes
[09:41] <nomad111> no
[09:41] <nomad111> save
[09:41] <polyneux> I have a binary file I want to execute but I can't manage to get it done ;.; /filename returns no such file or directory
[09:41] <nomad111> gonzoism: save html pages to pdf
[09:41] <nullkuhl> Montaro: i tried building it from the latest source of btsco its goes fine but wats wierd when i try to check the version i find that one working is the old one, not the one i have just compiled and built
[09:41] <Flannel> nomad111: check out cups-pdf (gives you a virtual pdf printer)
[09:41] <Yodude> gonzoism: no there doesn't seem to be a menu entry there
[09:41] <Montaro> polyneux: chmod a+x <filename> ...then try
[09:41] <gonzoism> ashu18 ah.  if you can spare the money, i'd try getting a new one. since they are pretty reasonably cheap
[09:42] <Yodude> gonzoism: hey what if i could use the user manager maybe?
[09:42] <gonzoism> Yodude no preferences ?
[09:42] <MISTERTibbs> _Bruce_, , I don't see anything like that. suggest u play with the themes to find a color combo u like
[09:42] <gonzoism> Yodude  yeah, the user manager would probably work
[09:42] <Yodude> gonzoism: maybe create a user group with french as the default language
[09:42] <ashu18> neway, bye for now!!!! see you later!!!! there is definitely a sense of fraternity in linux community....u don't find that in windows
[09:42] <nullkuhl> Montaro: ?
[09:42] <_Bruce_> k
[09:42] <gonzoism> Yodude  nah, would probably just be easier to turn french on for her
[09:42] <Montaro> nullkuhl: you've probably not set your prefix right.. pass --help to configure and see what it says about lib dirs.. usually it will install to /usr/lib but you probably want /lib
[09:42] <ashu18> i will be back with more probs if i get them.....will u help?
[09:42] <polyneux> Montaro: Same thing ;.;
[09:43] <MiHaU> Hello.
[09:43] <gonzoism> ashu18  i probably won't be here.  but you can probably count on someone else.  most people learn here, and come back later to "give back"
[09:43] <nullkuhl> Montaro: , i dont understand,, well it has been just 2 weeks since i installed ubuntu so will u guide me plz
[09:43] <Yodude> gonzoism: i don't know what to do.. i'll search the ubuntu website a bit and see.
[09:43] <ashu18> why?? r u leaving or what??
[09:43] <Tremitos> ??
[09:44] <Yodude> gonzoism: but thnkx man u've been a great helper
[09:44] <Yodude> thnkx for your time
[09:44] <gonzoism> Yodude i have kubuntu (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop) for my dad and in his menu, i have that option, to change the default language
[09:44] <MiHaU> I've got problem with sound on asus m2v. I've installed lates alsa and I can't apply patch, that makes feisty recognize my sound card (http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-May/001089.html). I'm newbie, so could anyone help me?
[09:44] <ashu18> k, bye!! mom will kill me!!!!!!!!!!
[09:44] <gonzoism> Yodude i use fluxbox, and he uses kde
[09:45] <gonzoism> Yodude you might have to install language packs to get french, unless you have them already
[09:45] <Yodude> gonzoism: well i may switch to KDe when version 4 gets out, i hear it's TOTALLY awesome
[09:46] <MiHaU> Anyone?
[09:47] <gonzoism> Yodude there is a french ubuntu channel too.  they might be able to help because they are probably more use to changing that.  most english speakers only speak english.  (well unless their native language is something else)
[09:47] <Yodude> gonzoism: lol i also forgot about the ubuntu forums, there's NOTHING that can't be solved there
[09:47] <gonzoism> Yodude yeah.  later
[09:47] <sinapsi77> hi
[09:47] <Yodude> gonzoism: the french channel  is #ubuntu-fr ?
[09:48] <gonzoism> !french | gonzoism
[09:48] <gonzoism> !french | Yodude
[09:48] <ubotu> Yodude: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:48] <gonzoism> :)
[09:48] <Yodude> thnkx
[09:48] <Yodude> :)
[09:48] <Yodude> bye
[09:48] <sinapsi77> how can i rename the pendrive? the ubuntu don't want
[09:48] <gonzoism> sinapsi77 rename the partition ? or change /dev entries ?
[09:49] <k-go-rilla> hey all
[09:49] <sinapsi77> mmm i don't know
[09:49] <sinapsi77> the label of pendrive
[09:49] <gonzoism> sinapsi77  what does ubuntu not like ?
[09:50] <sinapsi77> the volume of pendrive
[09:50] <sinapsi77> i want insert my personal name in the label of pendrive
[09:50] <gonzoism> sinapsi77 ah.  ext3 or msdosfs or what ?
[09:50] <sinapsi77> fat16
 edit /etc/fstab add the drive and the new name
[09:52] <sinapsi77> mmm... but if i insert my pendrive in another pc... the label of that will be the same?
[09:52] <k-go-rilla> i've got a question regarding wifi in the nm-applet, everything works, but i'd like to have wireless just come up with the system, not requiring me to login to an X session and all
[09:52] <gonzoism> sinapsi77 have a dos machine around ?
[09:52] <sinapsi77> (excuse me for my terrible english)
 ah then fdisk it
[09:52] <sinapsi77> yes
[09:52] <k-go-rilla> i've been fiddling with stuff and it's gotta be easier as all the installed software is working
[09:52] <gonzoism> sinapsi77  no need.  here is the linux command
[09:53] <gonzoism> sinapsi77   mkfs.vfat        -n volume-name
 and mkvfat i think that is the name never used win
[09:53] <user1__> what's good about ubuntu that's better than other distros?
[09:54] <gonzoism> greetings, troop
[09:55] <tonsofpcs> how can I load a nonactive partition in grub?
[09:55] <k-go-rilla> anybody?  this is about the only thing i'm annoyed with..
[09:55] <gonzoism> user1_ ubuntu support is awesome.  the forums are un-paralelled.
[09:55] <Beretta_V> I need pljava.jar but it's not include in the pljava package. Any idea where's it in ubuntu ?
[09:55] <user1__> support from where,, for what
[09:55] <gonzoism> tonsofpcs you should probably read a grub howto
[09:56] <MiHaU> I've got problem with sound on asus m2v. I've installed lates alsa and I can't apply patch, that makes feisty recognize my sound card (http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-May/001089.html). I'm newbie, so could anyone help me?
[09:56] <gonzoism> user1__  support here and on the forums, and in the distro. support for your hardware and software, and support with problems.
[09:56] <CheshireViking> user1, support from this channel and from ubuntuforums for any difficulties you might have configuring hardware or installing software
[09:56] <gonzoism> user1__  support=help
[09:57] <gonzoism> user1__  and support=hardware working
[09:57] <gonzoism> Beretta_V with it being a java file, i bet you could just google it and download it and stick it where its supposed to go
[09:58] <Steffan> Hello!
[09:58] <imbecile> are there any tools for overwriting deleted files in linux? I want to get rid of old data that i have deleted so it is unrecoverable
[09:58] <gonzoism> imbecile yeah
[09:58] <gonzoism> imbecile  want to do a whole drive or just the free space ?
[09:58] <imbecile> gonzoism,  just the free space
[09:59] <Beretta_V> gonzoism: i'm not sure, it's suppose too work with the postgres server
[09:59] <imbecile> i want something with 8+ passes
[09:59] <gonzoism> imbecile, the command "dd if=/dev/urandom of=temporary_file"    will keep going until it runs out of room.  then delete the file and start again.
[10:00] <k-go-rilla> somebody has got to have played around with the wireless deal, can't nm-applet do it's thing without gnome?  or some proggie that does the same thing?
[10:00] <gonzoism> imbecile there is also a "srm" command/package.  it securely removes.  passes over it like 8 times or something
[10:00] <maeth> hi , im trying to use the btsco -v command but it gives me this error Error: hwdep next device (hw:0): Operation not permitted
[10:00] <maeth> Error: control open (hw:1): No such device
[10:00] <maeth> Error: Can't find device. Bail
[10:00] <imbecile> gonzoism,  thanks buddy
[10:00] <gonzoism> imbecile there are a lot of different ways to do this.  think you will go with the dd command ?
[10:00] <imbecile> gonzoism,  i prefer a gui
[10:01] <gonzoism> imbecile ah.  then try searching the forums, or http://freshmeat.net  what you are wanting to do is "wipe" free space.
[10:02] <gonzoism> imbecile and stay away from that kiddie-porn !!!  :)
[10:03] <dominicus> what's the command to find out your local ip address?
[10:03] <illriginal> Does anyone know a good website with different penguin/tux logos?
[10:03] <imbecile> gonzoism,  lol.. I need to delete passwords financial stuff that may be lurking still
[10:03] <dominicus> gnome look .com... something like that
netstat -n
[10:04] <dominicus> k thanks
[10:04] <TaJMoX> Please people can help problem ?    Me are come brother with ubutnu and come to play and then we chess so that it will have problem ntfs and go 3 players ?
[10:04] <tonsofpcs> TaJMoX: yes.
[10:04] <TaJMoX> tonsofpcs thank you!   then we install apt-get ?   how to ?
[10:04] <joetheodd> I feel a bit stupid, but after installing java-common and the other related packages, how do I use Sun Java? What command?
[10:04] <gonzoism> imbecile yeah, i was just kidding.  you might get the srm command for deleting that stuff in the future.  it will securely delete it and is much faster and better to delete that stuff that way than wipe a whole drive
 what the hell language is that?
[10:04] <tonsofpcs> TaJMoX: 7.
[10:04] <tonsofpcs> insmod: he's trolling.  I'm feeding him.
[10:05] <TaJMoX> tonsofpcs : thank you camel friend!   We are have 8 no 7
[10:05] <tonsofpcs> TaJMoX: 8 then yes.
[10:05] <tonsofpcs> TaJMoX: sleep now me.  You good off IRC.
[10:05] <gonzoism> no not 8 !!!
[10:05] <imbecile> gonzoism, also my sister does forensics so i may just want to wipe anyways ;P
[10:05] <RoC_MM> DBAN.
[10:05] <gonzoism> imbecile where at ?
[10:05] <RoC_MM> dban.sf.net
[10:05] <imbecile> gonzoism,  visa
[10:05] <TaJMoX> tonsofpcs thanks friend me and camel sleep now too
[10:06] <gonzoism> dban is good. but i think it gets every drive. and all of the drives.
[10:06] <gonzoism> anyone here ever use it ?
[10:06] <RoC_MM> if you want it to gonzoism...it's up to you
[10:06] <RoC_MM> it only does that if you type "autonuke" at the boot:
[10:06] <gonzoism> ah
[10:06] <gonzoism> anyone here ever use dban ?
[10:07] <RoC_MM> yes
[10:07] <gonzoism> RoC_MM how fast is it ?
[10:07] <crocodile> why does my centrino laptop run so much cooler and get more battery life in linux than windows??
[10:07] <crabgrass> how do i uninstall something i  compiled from source?
[10:07] <antiati> hi guys do you know some wiki for ati radeon xpress 200 m but working wiki i have tried to use resticted module manager but my 3d accelleration it's still not working
[10:07] <gonzoism> crocodile because linux is awesome ?
[10:07] <crocodile> the technial reason please, not a quip about windows sucking
[10:08] <imbecile> gonzoism, i should have my sister see what she can retrieve first.. that would be interesting
[10:08] <gonzoism> crocodile probably linux is using less resources
[10:08] <TaJMoX> crocodile : linux has cpu throttling
[10:08] <RoC_MM> crocodile, a cool story
[10:08] <crabgrass> TaJMoX: really?
[10:09] <crocodile> taj - for any cpu type?  Or is that just something centrino can take advantage of
[10:09] <TaJMoX> crocodile : when your pc is idle, it is throttled down to a lower speed - windows keeps it at the maximum always - also Linux idles at 0-1% CPU    windows does like 5%
[10:09] <gonzoism> RoC_MM is it slow ?
[10:09] <TaJMoX> corcodile - works with most intel chips
[10:09] <RoC_MM> gonzoism, erasing takes a long time, but it's not slow
[10:09] <crocodile> I see.. another win for linux :) thanks
[10:09] <Traff42> Flying Blind. I cant see any partitions on my disk! Trying to install Feisty on an exisiting (working) Win/Breezy multiboot setup. Tried known good Feisty & Edgy Install CD's. Partitioner sees on ly the drive, no partitions (there are 13 on the disk)
[10:09] <gonzoism> RoC_MM   would you guestimate how long it would take to wipe 100 gigs or 500 or a terrabyte for me ?
[10:09] <Traff42> Any ideas?
[10:10] <TaJMoX> crocodile - if linux idles at 1% and windows idles at 2-5% then virtually your computer lasts 2-5 times longer
[10:10] <gonzoism> RoC_MM i have always wondered that
[10:10] <crabgrass> TaJMoX: oh, that 'system idle process' thing?
[10:10] <TaJMoX> crabgrass - system idle process does nothing
[10:10] <RoC_MM> I would say...
[10:10] <RoC_MM> a while.
[10:10] <gonzoism> crabgrass throttling is the term for it i believe
[10:10] <crocodile> tajmox - assuming it's idle for the entire battery life yes
[10:10] <RoC_MM> Depends how many passes
[10:11] <gonzoism> RoC_MM ever autonuke ?
[10:11] <RoC_MM> yes
[10:11] <Steffan> Hello, I tried to install ubuntu next to my windows partition
[10:11] <TaJMoX> crocodile =]    right but still.... my 1st stage throttling is 1000mhz and my second stage is 1666mhz.... usually it is in 1000mhz mode, which is 50% less power used
[10:11] <unfo> Steffan, hello] 
[10:11] <RoC_MM> gonzoism, you should just check out the website and try the software.
[10:12] <RoC_MM> if you want the data gone, then wipe it, otherwise don't.
[10:12] <gonzoism> RoC_MM how long did that take and how big ?  sorry to be badgering you like this, but i have wondered for years.
[10:12] <Steffan> I thought ubuntu could resized that partition, but ubuntu couldn't
[10:12] <RoC_MM> I don't know...start it and goto sleep...it will be mostly done in the morning for a 1-pass?
[10:12] <Teonnyn> Hello
[10:12] <gonzoism> RoC_MM i have the cd burnt here, and stuck to the wall with a thumbtack. :)
[10:12] <unfo> crabgrass, sudo make uninstall maybe.  But never compile anything from source if you can get it from Add/Remove or Synaptic instead.
[10:12] <Steffan> So I downloaded partition magic(windows)
[10:12] <unfo> crabgrass, sudo make uninstall
[10:13] <Teonnyn> I'm having a bit of a problem with Ubuntu here.. it's refusing to allow me to edit or install anything
[10:13] <Steffan> But I don't know which partition I have to make... swap, root, home partitions?
[10:13] <crabgrass> unfo: thanks.
[10:13] <Teonnyn> But I don't know how to access the default root account... and thaht's a problem - the install is brand new
[10:13] <gonzoism> RoC_MM i would feel really stupid losing data though. :)  i have like a terrabyte or so now.
[10:13] <unfo> Steffan, 2GB swap, 20GB root is a good rule of thumb
[10:13] <crocodile> Taj - I just put on a cpu monitor and you're 100% right... it's idling at 600mhz and maxing at 1600 mhz
[10:13] <crabgrass> unfo: before i do this, though, know of any way to get nitrogen to work with xfce?
[10:13] <unfo> crabgrass, nope
[10:13] <Flannel> Teonnyn: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account, there is no root password.  Use sudo instead.
[10:13] <unfo> Steffan, no home
[10:13] <crabgrass> unfo: ty anywho
[10:13] <Steffan> Ok
[10:13] <TaJMoX> teonnyn : example : sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:13] <crocodile> tajmox rather, not taj
[10:14] <zaggynl> How did Ubuntu actually disable the root account?
[10:14] <TaJMoX> teonnyn : sudo apt-get remove firefox
[10:14] <Teonnyn> Taj, sudo?
[10:14] <Flannel> !sudo | Teonnyn
[10:14] <ubotu> Teonnyn: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:14] <TaJMoX> crocodile rather not?   you'd rather it idle at 1600 ?
[10:14] <gonzoism> zaggynl i think there is no root account and just sudo access. i think
[10:14] <Flannel> zaggynl: it's a normal option.  You can disable any account.  (-l flag with passwd)
[10:14] <joetheodd> After installing java-common and the other related packages, how do I use Sun Java? What command?
[10:14] <crocodile> tajmox - no I like this :)
[10:14] <TaJMoX> crocodile oh i see =] 
[10:15] <zaggynl> gonzoism, the root account does excist, you can change its password with sudo passwd
[10:15] <zaggynl> Flannel, ah thanks
[10:15] <gonzoism> RoC_MM well thanks for the info you did give me.
[10:15] <zaggynl> so, 'sudo passwd -l <username>' would do the trick eh
[10:15] <crocodile> zagg - I did that and just su root for command line stuffs.  It beats remembering to type sudo every command :P
[10:15] <Teonnyn> hm..
[10:15] <Flannel> zaggynl: yeah.
[10:15] <zaggynl> oki
[10:15] <Teonnyn> Okay, I'm trying to install Cedega, but I need to move the files from desktop into the filesystem
[10:16] <Teonnyn> However this is where the major problems come in
[10:16] <Flannel> crocodile: `sudo -i` will get you a root shell without the costs of having an enabled root account
[10:16] <crocodile> flannel - very nice
[10:16] <TaJMoX> i do really advanced stuff and never need to do sudo -i
[10:16] <Flannel> zaggynl: this is all on the sudo webpage ;)
[10:16] <ravigr8> i want to build the LFS on ubuntu
[10:16] <zaggynl> :P
[10:16] <Teonnyn> So I just use sudo -i to enable the root?
[10:16] <TaJMoX> sudo chmod 744 file  ...works great
[10:16] <Flannel> Right.  Really prepending sudo to a few commands is no big deal.
[10:16] <ravigr8> is it tested by someone?
[10:17] <crocodile> flannel - it iss when you have a habit of not doing it ;0)
[10:17] <Flannel> TaJMoX: chmodding is the best way to break your system
[10:17] <TaJMoX> crocodile - bad habit - can ruin your system
[10:17] <crocodile> I'm going use this sudo -i from now on instead
[10:17] <TaJMoX> flannel was an example of a sudo command
[10:18] <TaJMoX> flannel i wouldnt sudo chmod 777 -R /*
[10:18] <osfameron> sudo flannel ?
[10:18] <Flannel> crocodile: Eh, You think you're using it an awful lot (in the beginning) because you are, but after a few weeks, you'll hardly ever need to sudo for anything.  'Living' with sudo is hardly that big of a deal
[10:18] <mongolai> if you edit your menus, you can find a root shell option.
[10:18] <JdGordon> can anyone help me getting nvidia-glx-legacy working with feitsy? I installed it and fixed my xorg.conf, but X is crashing on startup... log http://pastebin.ca/580822
[10:18] <mongolai> which is what i did
[10:18] <Flannel> TaJMoX: Fair enough.  And, next time, don't give working commands like that ;)
[10:18] <TaJMoX> you never have to use sudo after you configure your whole system the way you want it
[10:18] <crocodile> flannel - agreed, its personal flavor
[10:18] <TaJMoX> use regular user
[10:19] <stickerhappy> hello
[10:19] <TaJMoX> flannel - like sudo rm -rf /etc ?   =)
[10:19] <Flannel> TaJMoX: keep it up and you're liable to be banned.
[10:19] <TaJMoX> sudo /kickban TaJMoX
[10:19] <crocodile> hehe
[10:20] <stickerhappy> i got some questions
[10:20] <TaJMoX> gksudo /shrug
[10:20] <yondie> sudo rm -rf /
[10:20] <unfo> yondie, STOP
[10:20] <yondie> my favourite way of destryoing a pc
[10:20] <Steffan> Bye!
[10:20] <yondie> oops sorry
[10:20] <unfo> yondie, if you type that it will reformat your hard drive.
[10:20] <TaJMoX> yondie doesnt work on debian systems
[10:20] <yondie> TaJMoX, it does i test it
[10:20] <unfo> yondie, and if someone else types it it will reformat their hard drive as well.
[10:20] <TaJMoX> yondie i just typed it
[10:21] <unfo> yondie, it is never a good idea to mention that on this IRC channel without warning what it does in all caps on the same line.
[10:21] <yondie> ic
[10:21] <crocodile> I suggest people don't go and test Tajmox's word on this
[10:21] <Flannel> Actually, it's never a good idea to, even with the warning.  And there's no real reason to either.  Besides it being somewhat offtopic.
[10:21] <unfo> yondie, dont worry :) just please be careful.
[10:21] <imbecile> anybody use obsidian fserve for xchat? I do not know how to install it http://obsidianplus.berlios.de/
[10:21] <TaJMoX> crocodile good advice
[10:21] <stickerhappy> i have a problem installing feisty 64bit
[10:22] <Teonnyn> Okay, I have a question..
[10:22] <Flannel> !ask
[10:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:22] <Teonnyn> The laptop I'm running Ubuntu on has a 64-bit chip, would it have automatically detected that?
[10:22] <yondie> Teonnyn, i suppose so
[10:22] <Teonnyn> So far I'm very impressed that it detected the wireless card which Windows NEVER did without drivers
[10:23] <unfo> Flannel, there are occasional times.  For example, to reformat your hard drive but keep your home dir, you can do, as root: mkdir /z && mv /home/yourusername/.* /home/yourusername/* /z && rm -r /[a-y] * which will REFORMAT YOUR HARD DRIVE but keep your home dir.
[10:23] <Flannel> Teonnyn: There are 32 and 64bit install CDs.  You'll need to choose the one you want
[10:23] <imbecile> nevermind i think i got it guys
[10:23] <unfo> Flannel, it's handy when switching distros.
[10:23] <Teonnyn> Oh, I was using a pre-packaged CD
[10:23] <stickerhappy> i boot to my burned feisty 64bit, i get to the menu,  i choose start install ubuntu but it crashes, blackout
[10:24] <Tomasu> Hi, I'm having a small problem with my wifi card/network. I have it set to start up in ap mode, bridged with my ethernet connection, and it seems that the "freq" or "channel" is being over ridden by something, anything set in the interface file seems to not work.
[10:24] <Teonnyn> There is one other thing.. is it possible to enable your main account to full Root priviliages?
[10:24] <Flannel> Teonnyn: still, the CD yo got is either 32 or 64bit.
[10:24] <Tomasu> manually calling iwconfig afterwards works.
[10:24] <Teonnyn> I see
[10:24] <ali1234> i have a usb device that requires module parameters to work (force vendor and product id.) can i configure something so the module will be loaded automatically, instead of having to sudo modprobe it every time i reboot? or do i have to recompile the module to do that?
[10:24] <Flannel> Teonnyn: sudo effectively does that, gives you full privledges.
[10:24] <imbecile> how do i get perl plugin for xchat?
[10:24] <Teonnyn> Flannel, but what about pernamently enabling it?
[10:25] <Flannel> Teonnyn: That's just stupid.  This isn't windows.  Permissions are a good thing.
[10:25] <eregi> hei, what do I need to do to get sshd on my ubuntu machie (livecd)
add it to /etc/rc.d
[10:25] <Flannel> eregi: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:25] <unfo> Teonnyn, good idea but there's a reason nobody here uses root all day :)
[10:25] <unfo> Teonnyn, too easy to mess up.
[10:25] <ali1234> insmod: no, i do not want it to be loaded at boot, i want it to hotplug properly
[10:25] <stickerhappy> i have a question
[10:25] <Flannel> stickerhappy: did you check the CD for defects?
[10:26] <unfo> I recently accidentally clobbered about 10% of my files with the all-powerful rsync --delete command.
[10:26] <stickerhappy> Flannel: i tried winsum, good
[10:26] <stickerhappy> Flannel: no problem
[10:26] <Flannel> stickerhappy: Try the on-CD check (fourth menu item, or whatnot)
 then add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:26] <Teonnyn> I just don't want to have to use sudo each..and...every..time.. I .. install... programs..
[10:26] <unfo> stickerhappy, "Test CD for defects"
[10:26] <stickerhappy> Flannel: same result with installation,  crashes, blackout
[10:27] <Flannel> stickerhappy: that's a bad burn.  Try again at 4x.  (and check the md5 of the ISO if you haven't already)
[10:27] <unfo> Teonnyn, if you feel reckless, then setuid root your synaptic and aptitude.  But I don't recommend it.
[10:27] <Hallongodis> somebody here who knows how to change a xorg.conf file with a backup i have tried many times but it says i dont have the rights to do so.
[10:27] <stickerhappy> Flannel: by the way, i use an ati radeon x550
[10:27] <Teonnyn> unfo... um.... please explain that? ^^;
[10:27] <Flannel> Teonnyn: If you use a GUI app, it'll prompt you for the password automatically.  But really, you won't b installing software that often (even if it seems like it at first)
[10:27] <Teonnyn> Brand new to Ubuntu here
[10:28] <VSpike> My wife needs to write school reports - basically a standard form on A5 paper with a few fields (name, exam mark, place) that change, plus the main text field ("Must try harder, etc.")  I used to just use MS Word templates for this.  I avoided mail merge in MS Office because it's so hideous to set up.  Is there a neat way to do this kind of thing with free software?
[10:28] <TaJMoX> hallongodis : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <Flannel> Teonnyn: you don't want to do what he's talking about, seeing that you're unaware of what it entails.
[10:28] <Hallongodis> thanks i will try
[10:28] <unfo> Teonnyn, setuid root means whenever anyone uses the software they will become root temporarily.  There's no reason to do it: just type sudo when needed.
[10:28] <ali1234> insmod: huh? it isn't a network interface, it's a modem, effectively a serial port....
[10:29] <mongolai> anyone here know how to get BootUp Manager working in runlevel S
[10:29] <TaJMoX> teonnyn : you're used to windows - where every user is the Administrator user.   this is not secure.   If every user is the administrator - then you are suseptable to viruses and malware and hackers.    This is what makes *nix so secure, User land is separate than System land.
[10:29] <unfo> Teonnyn, easier solution: set sudo to keep your password for 4 hours.  Then you won't have to keep retyping your password as ofteh.
[10:29] <VSpike> I'm sure I could follow the same approach with openoffice, maybe even trying to learn how to pull data from a spreadsheet or a database.
[10:29] <unfo> *often
[10:29] <stickerhappy> Flannel: i already tried md5, no problems there
[10:29] <Flannel> mongolai: er... Why?
[10:29] <Teonnyn> How do I do that?
[10:29] <VSpike> Wondering if there's an even more nifty solution
[10:29] <unfo> Teonnyn, i dunno... i've never bothered to do it
[10:29] <stickerhappy> Flannel: can i PM you, it's hard tracking our messages hehe
[10:30] <Hallongodis> it worked thank you very much
[10:30] <TaJMoX> unfo : how do I change that?
[10:30] <unfo> TaJMoX, dunno
[10:30] <Flannel> stickerhappy: freenode only accepts queries from registered users.  Just prefix my name, and read the stuff I highlight you with.
[10:30] <unfo> stickerhappy, Flannel, please don't pm, maybe move to ##linux or #chat if you hate scrolling
[10:31] <Flannel> stickerhappy: Burn at 4x, if that still doesn't work (or you want to try something that'll take all doubt about it being a graphics problem), download and burn (at 4x!) the alternate CD
[10:31] <crabgrass> guys, help. what's kbd?
[10:31] <unfo> VSpike, I don't know; maybe someone on the ubuntu users mailing list could answer that.
[10:31] <stickerhappy> i re-burned at 4x, same result
[10:32] <crabgrass> 'cause uninstalling it just removed xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop and gdm
[10:32] <VSpike> Unfo: good thinking
[10:32] <stickerhappy> i was thinking about that, alternate CD, i'm curious now how to configure the ati driver if it crashes right from the installation
[10:32] <AnssiP> Any experience on Canonical support? Any references/pointers to any more info?
[10:32] <TaJMoX> stickerhappy - if its too hard to distinguish messages and you are using xchat - turn on "colored nick names"
[10:33] <emman101> here guys i did the correct thing its just there is an error
[10:33] <emman101> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26566/
[10:33] <Teonnyn> gaaaaah
[10:33] <Teonnyn> Okay.. I don't know what I did here..
[10:33] <Flannel> crabgrass: which version of ubuntu?
[10:33] <stickerhappy> Flannel: i was thinking about that, alternate CD, i'm curious now how to configure the ati driver if it crashes right from the installation
[10:33] <Teonnyn> Rebooted the laptop...and now it's giving me a command line login
[10:33] <crabgrass> ohhhhhhh shit...  can i reinstall xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop and gdm from within synaptic and have everything be okay?
[10:33] <crabgrass> Flannel: 7.04
[10:33] <AnssiP> More generally, any experinces/references/articles on Ubuntu in a corporate environment?
[10:34] <Teonnyn> And it no longer accepts my login
[10:34] <Flannel> crabgrass: That.... doesn't make sense.  You mustve removed somethign else besides kbd to remove those metapackages (u-d, et al)
[10:34] <unfo> Teonnyn, it should still accept your login.  Type slower.
[10:34] <crabgrass> Flannel: no, i didn't. want to see my console log?
[10:34] <Killerkiwi> QEMU question anybody got  smb working on feisty ??
[10:34] <unfo> smb?
[10:34] <crabgrass> Flannel: that's why im so worried
[10:34] <VSpike> AnssiP: Depends what you mean.  I work in a small company, and i work from hmoe 80% of the time.  Everyone else uses windows (XP or Vista).  I use Ubuntu on the desktop
[10:34] <AnssiP> With corporate environment I mean centralized support for a large number of non-techical users.
[10:35] <Killerkiwi> unfo, samba for qemu
[10:35] <unfo> Teonnyn, the command line bit I can't help you with, since it's late and I have to finish dealing with my email.
[10:35] <unfo> Killerkiwi, try the qemu channel maybe
[10:35] <Teonnyn> sigh..
[10:35] <Flannel> crabgrass: kbd is in universe, ubuntu-desktop/xubuntu/gdm shouldn't depend on it.  hmmm, but it... seems that gdm does.
[10:35] <Teonnyn> Okay.. I've busted this install, again..
[10:35] <AnssiP> VSpike, I am trying to push Ubuntu as an officially supported alternative in out very big company.
[10:35] <crabgrass> shit
[10:35] <Flannel> crabgrass: yeah, reinstalling xubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-desktop and gdm will put everything back
[10:35] <crabgrass> well, it was time for a new install anyway
[10:35] <PriceChild> !ohmy | crabgrass
[10:35] <ubotu> crabgrass: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:35] <Teonnyn> It still isn't accepting anything
[10:35] <crabgrass> PriceChild: yeah, i know
[10:36] <floubultim> Bonjour. Y a-t-il un endroit o je peux aller pour parler franais s'il vous plat? Hello! Is ther a place where I can go to speak french, please?
[10:36] <unfo> Teonnyn, reboot with the kernel parameter init=/bin/sh
[10:36] <ASH4IF3> hello
[10:36] <Flannel> crabgrass: eh?  There's no reason to reinstall.  Simply removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't *do* anything to your install anyway.  It's jsut a metapackage
[10:36] <Flannel> !fr | floubultim
[10:36] <unfo> Teonnyn, you will instantly become root.
[10:36] <ubotu> floubultim: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:36] <Teonnyn> unfo, it won't even let me reboot
[10:36] <crabgrass> Flannel: but gdm?
[10:36] <floubultim> I'm new on internet, new on Xchat, new on Ubuntu
[10:36] <unfo> Teonnyn, pull the plug?
[10:36] <crabgrass> Flannel: think i lost any customization here?
[10:36] <ASH4IF3> fuck u bastards and go 2 ash4if3.co.nr, prowrz.net is my homepage u mother fuker
[10:36] <Teonnyn> Comes back to this same screen
[10:36] <crabgrass> !kb ASH4IF3
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kb ash4if3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <unfo> !ops please warn ASH4IF3 about our language policies
[10:36] <AnssiP> My starting point as Ubuntu evangelist is dire: currently things like Firefox are explicitly forbidden in out MS only environment...
[10:37] <Flannel> crabgrass: no, no customizations.  removing the packages only removes the binaries.  You'd have to do "complete removal" (in synaptic) or with --purge (inapt-get) to remove the configs
[10:37] <floubultim> Merci  Ubotu pour sa rponse. Je vais essayer. Thanks to Ubotu for his answer. I'm going to try.
[10:37] <Teonnyn> sigh.. okay
[10:37] <Teonnyn> Reinstall once more
[10:37] <AnssiP> And certainly you are not allowed to attach a non-Windows machine in our network...
[10:37] <crabgrass> Flannel: so... what exactly happened? now that i have the binaries back, everything should be peachy?
[10:38] <Flannel> crabgrass: yeah.  And you've got kbd back (which... is completely random.  That shouldn't be a dependancy)
[10:38] <crabgrass> Flannel: i dont need or want kbd anymore
[10:38] <AnssiP> You know guys, I am so tired of Linux as a hobby: I would like to prove everybody, that Linux is a professional infrastructurr tool which can cut costs and improve work efficiency.
[10:39] <Flannel> crabgrass: AH.  You want to install "console-tools"  then you'll be able to remove kbd
[10:39] <Flannel> crabgrass: gdm depends on kbd or console-tools
[10:39] <Teonnyn> Maybe I won't screw everything up this time
[10:39] <Flannel> AnssiP: check out #ubuntu-marketing, they might be able to help you with info/links/etc
[10:39] <unfo> AnssiP, i say push Mac instead.  It supports a larger percentage of hardware.
[10:39] <crabgrass> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/933229
[10:39] <unfo> *a larger percentage of Mac hardware
[10:40] <Flannel> crabgrass: right, install console-tools and then remove kdb
[10:40] <AnssiP> I don't think supoorting a large set of hw is essential in a corporate environment. We choose a very limited hw set anyway as officially supported.
[10:40] <Teonnyn> unfo.. I remember the PC that Apple tried to push as a "updatable" machine.. the G4, I belive it was?
[10:40] <crabgrass> Flannel: i think it's removed already
[10:41] <unfo> Teonnyn, you mean hardware upgradable?
[10:41] <Teonnyn> Yeah
[10:41] <Flannel> crabgrass: Reinstall console-tools, and then you can reinstall gdm/ubuntu-desktop/xubuntu-desktop
[10:41] <MISTERTibbs> AnssiP, agreed.
[10:41] <Teonnyn> User hardware upgradable
[10:41] <crabgrass> Flannel: does it have to be in that order?
[10:42] <Teonnyn> Within six months they pulled the G4 off the shelf and replaced it with a regular "All in Monitor non-upgradable"
[10:42] <Flannel> crabgrass: you need to install console-tools first.  Then you can install the other three at the same time
[10:42] <unfo> AnssiP, also, people will curse and swear at it.  They've been used to using Windows all their lives.  They don't want to switch OSes.  I say push Ubuntu for server systems instead.  And in your local schools.
[10:42] <unfo> Children don't mind new OSes.
[10:42] <crabgrass> Flannel: hmm. well, i guess i did it backwards then. uninstall/reinstall those three now, or keep?
[10:42] <Teonnyn> unfo, yeah.. it's just us old timers :)
[10:42] <AnssiP> Well, I want to use Ubuntu personally in my work. That's my final motivation, not making the workl "better".
[10:43] <Flannel> crabgrass: What?  Theyre already uninstalled.  Did you reinstall them?  (is kbd installed?)  If theyre reinstalled, then you may have dragged kbd in with them.  If thats the case, install console-tools, then you can remove (without yanking u-d et al) kbd
[10:43] <VSpike> AnssiP: I think you need to provide a business case
[10:44] <AnssiP> Or I want to use a modern, FOSS system. I would prefer Plan 9, but I settel for Ubuntu, for now ;-)
[10:44] <GeekMaster1> Hey all
[10:44] <Teonnyn> Okay, maybe after this format/reinstall it'll work properly.. I'll pay very close attention to this
[10:44] <Teonnyn> heya
[10:44] <Casanova_> #makassar
[10:44] <MobsterLobster> hello how can do i reg my usename?
[10:44] <crabgrass> Flannel: kbd is gone, *buntu-desktop and gdm are installed
[10:44] <Flannel> crabgrass: alright, you're good then.
[10:44] <Flannel> !register > MobsterLobster
[10:45] <emman101> sorry to ask this, but pls tell me how to check for corrupt files?
[10:45] <GeekMaster1> I have an issue with gnome-dock. I want to get rid of it. I installed it a while back and didn't like it, but it still runs on start-up even after I have removed it. Can someone help me get rid of all instances of it? It's called Cairo-Dock. Thanks in advance.
[10:46] <VSpike> AnssiP: that's the only thing that will be listened to.  But I think you can make some good arguments.  Cost for one.  Factor in no need to purchase antivirus software.  Machines should have longer lifespan.  Openoffice a good alternative for most people and free.  Lack of vendor lockin.  Free PDF generation (a big plus for me - PDF tools are expensive on WIndows).
[10:46] <crabgrass> Flannel: alright, gonna try rebooting
[10:46] <crabgrass> Flannel: thanks for the assisst
[10:46] <VSpike> AnssiP: If some people require office for a particular reason, crossover office is reasonable.
[10:46] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[10:47] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[10:47] <VSpike> emman101: on what?
[10:47] <GeekMaster1> Please? LOL
[10:47] <Teonnyn> Geek... I'm new to Ubuntu.. using it as an alternate system on my laptop .. sorry :9
[10:47] <Teonnyn> :(
[10:48] <Flannel> !repeat | GeekMaster1
[10:48] <ubotu> GeekMaster1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:48] <v> Hey guys
[10:48] <v> I need some help
[10:48] <GeekMaster1> I have an issue with gnome-dock. I want to get rid of it. I installed it a while back and didn't like it, but it still runs on start-up even after I have removed it. Can someone help me get rid of all instances of it? It's called Cairo-Dock. Thanks in advance.
[10:48] <MISTERTibbs> GeekMaster1, did u run sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:48] <v> Im trying to put an active terminal into my top task panel so i can quickly type commands, im in gnome, how do i do so?
[10:48] <emman101> VSpike: ive installed some libraries for turboC, after that i cant run my codeblock IDE anymore
[10:48] <GeekMaster1> No
[10:48] <GeekMaster1> How would I do that?
[10:48] <VSpike> AnssiP: sticking points will be Exchange server and Pocket PC devices
[10:49] <MISTERTibbs> GeekMaster1, Applications>Terminal
[10:49] <MISTERTibbs> GeekMaster1, once the terminal comes up, type in sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:49] <v>  Im trying to put an active terminal into my top task panel so i can quickly type commands, im in gnome, how do i go about doing such things?
[10:49] <GeekMaster1> MISTERTibbs I actually ran a similar command a while back and it ended up deleting EVERY app I had. I ended up with an empty Ubuntu and I had to re-install my OS
[10:50] <Jerry32> can any1 help me please?
[10:50] <mongolai> v : what do you mean "active" terminal?
[10:50] <v> Well
[10:50] <MISTERTibbs> GeekMaster1, autoremove will only remove unlinked program files
[10:50] <v> I mean mongalai, not an icon to access it, but an actual openened terminal itself
[10:50] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: did you install cairo-dock through package management?
[10:50] <GeekMaster1> MISTERTibbs if I ran " sudo apt-get autoremove" what will that do? It says nothing in that command about Vairo-Dock
[10:51] <VSpike> emman101: So you don't actually want to scan your hard disk for filesystem errors?  Or do you?
[10:51] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: `sudo apt-get remove --purge cairo-dock`  However, you'll still have some leftover config stuff in your homedir
[10:51] <mongolai> v : I don't really see the difference.
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> Flannel  It was not a package. It was a package
[10:51] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: it was not a package or it was a package?
[10:51] <MISTERTibbs> run man autoremove for the full description.  basically it searches thru the file library for orphan program files then deletes them
[10:51] <emman101> VSpike: how do i scan it for file errors?
[10:51] <v> SO is it possible or not
[10:52] <GeekMaster1> Flannel it was not a package. It was a compile or whatever
[10:52] <mongolai> I mean I don't really understand what you mean.  Like a terminal session that is already open?
[10:52] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: ah.  Too bad.  Theres no easy way to remove it.  Just ahve to delete all the stuff it installed.
[10:52] <Jerry32> i've been sat on the same chair for 7 hours now, and i havent gotten anywhere with what i am tryin to do... i just dont understand what to do.... im gonna pull my hair out soon
[10:53] <emman101> VSpike: can you take a look what went wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26566/
[10:53] <Flannel> !anyone | Jerry32
[10:53] <ubotu> Jerry32: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:53] <GeekMaster1> When I do a search for it and find instances of it, what do I type in the terminal? rm ~/path/to/app ?
[10:53] <xtal> Hi! Does anybody speak Russian?
[10:53] <Flannel> !ru | xtal
[10:53] <ubotu> xtal:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:53] <jatt> ouch
[10:53] <Jerry32> ok - thanks
[10:53] <Jerry32> can anyone offer me any help on this: i am trying to either setup samba or an ftp so that i can stream videos to my xbox (its running xbmc) ... but i cant get samba to work - and my ftp puts me in the root directory - i dont know how to set it up so that i start on my xp hdd
[10:54] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: it's not quite that simple.  There's an executable (or a few), theres also config files, and other stuff (icons? something else?  I dont know) too.
[10:54] <Jerry32> i dont want to have to boot xp to share my vids - and dont want to have to upload them to my xbox
[10:54] <v>  Im trying to put an active terminal into my top task panel so i can quickly type commands, im in gnome, how do i do so?
[10:54] <emman101> Jerry32: goto terminal and type man samba
[10:55] <Flannel> !samba | Jerry32
[10:55] <ubotu> Jerry32: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:55] <emman101> Jerry32: and read
[10:55] <julius> Does FFawn 7.04 come with the 3g driver?
[10:55] <Jerry32> emman101: i've read everything man... i've been here 7 hours and still cant get it to work
[10:55] <Flannel> !rtfm | emman101
[10:55] <ubotu> emman101: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:55] <Leon> hi, i want to install to 2nd system, have 1 fully setup & running, from mini.iso (bandwidth cap issues!) and then do packages from the running system. Can it be done like this?
[10:55] <MISTERTibbs> v: Application>Terminal
[10:55] <Flannel> julius: You need to install ntfs-config, then it'll be in your menus
[10:55] <mwright1> Hi just wandering how I identify what version of Ubuntu I have kernel is 2.6.15-28-386
[10:55] <v> NO
[10:55] <julius> Flannel: menu's?
[10:55] <mwright1> I think it's dapper.. and I want to upgrade it to the latest
[10:56] <v> i want one in my top panel active and opened just inside the panel!
[10:56] <stefg> !version
[10:56] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:56] <kraut> moin
[10:56] <julius> Flannel: or is it just a different param for mount
[10:56] <Flannel> julius: there's an "NTFS configuration tool" or something after installing that.  That you then enable ntfs read/write/who knows
[10:56] <stefg> mwright1: Tjat's Dapper, btw
[10:56] <mongolai> v : if you hit alt + F2 you can type in a command. Otherwise I don't know...
[10:56] <julius> Flannel: so the 3G module is allready installed by default?
[10:56] <VSpike> emman101: It's been a looong time since I did any c programming, but it looks to me like your include paths got messed up?
[10:56] <mwright1> ok so how do I upgrade that at the command line to feisty
[10:56] <Flannel> julius: I believe so.
[10:56] <mwright1> I"m remoted into a friends box and he wants me to upgrade him
[10:57] <julius> Flannel: :D
[10:57] <Flannel> mwright1: you'll need to go from dapper to edgy to feisty,
[10:57] <Flannel> !upgrade | mwright1
[10:57] <ubotu> mwright1: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:57] <emman101> VSpike: how?
[10:58] <stefg> mwright1: you'd have to upgrade in 2 steps, skipping versions is not supported. It's probably easier and cleaner to backup and reinstall Feisty, using the method mentioned in !cloning
[10:58] <GeekMaster1> Flannel so there is NO way to get rid of this? I'm stuck with cairo-dock?
[10:58] <VSpike> emman101: Sorry - I'm just not familiar enough with C programming on linux to say.
[10:58] <Jerry32> has anyone here successfully setup a samba share with xboxmediacenter and ubuntu? or any kind of share for that matter?
[10:58] <emman101> VSpike: im asking about installation this is the instruction http://www.sandroid.org/TurboC/
[10:58] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: I told you, go through and delete all the stuff.  If you still have the source, you can make (but not make install) and then you'll be able to know exactly what it puts where.
[10:59] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: Of course, even without removing it, you should be able to disable it.  Although I have no idea how.  You'll have to ask the cairo-dock people.
[10:59] <GeekMaster1> Flannel I'm doing that. What is the command for deleting a folder?
[10:59] <GeekMaster1> rm -"what"
[10:59] <incorrect> is it possible to apt-get the installation program that is live cd?
[10:59] <kane77> GeekMaster1, rm -r
[10:59] <Flannel> incorrect: you mean on the liveCD? yes.
[11:00] <user1__> GeekMaster1, use windows
[11:00] <stefg> !info ubiquity
[11:00] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.11 (feisty), package size 1852 kB, installed size 7104 kB
[11:00] <AnssiP> I have Pointsec in my MBR, to decrypt my Windows partition. Anyone have detailed info on how to boot from a CD anf then re-boot manually my (unencrypted) Ubuntu partition? I failed to do that with a GRUB boot disk.
[11:00] <incorrect> what about the server installer?
[11:01] <emman101> VSpike: there are less than 10 steps i dont know if i did the correct installation
[11:01] <ThRiX> Hi at all!
[11:01] <alesan> re
[11:01] <alesan> how can I install sun's JDK and remove the gjc thing?
[11:01] <AnssiP> Can you go to GRUB in Ubuntu CD boot? Can you then force a boot from a given HD partition?
[11:01] <incorrect> can i apt-get install the text based server installer?
[11:02] <Jerry32> has anyone here successfully setup a samba share with xboxmediacenter (or a windows machine) and ubuntu? or any kind of share for that matter?
[11:02] <alesan> when I type java -version at prompt I get the GNU one
[11:02] <Flannel> !java | alesan
[11:02] <ubotu> alesan: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:02] <AlexC_> good morning,
[11:02] <ThRiX> can we help me with questions on ltsp client... (where the client save your files....)
[11:02] <Flannel> incorrect: what are you trying to do?
[11:02] <AlexC_> for some reason my desktop hasn't loaded, IE - no icons and I can't right click on it - how can I start/restart it?
[11:03] <emman101> Jerry32: what is your problem again?
[11:03] <Flannel> AlexC_: ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:03] <stefg> AnssiP: you'd have to setup a boot medium (CD, USB-stick or floppy) that contains grub, if your harddisks MBR isn't touchable.
[11:03] <AlexC_> Flannel: urgh, yeah I could :P but is there a way I can do it without doing that?
[11:03] <emman101> maybe you want to try webmin
[11:03] <Flannel> AlexC_: that's... restarting your X.  What you asked to do, right?
[11:04] <Jerry32> emman101: i've spent ages reading all the samba stuff - and playing around with my smb.conf file - but i cant get my xbox or other XP comp to actually be able to view my files
[11:04] <AlexC_> Flannel: no no, everything is fine with X, I can use it all great - I'm typing this in xChat now, however - I can see my desktop background, but it has no icons and I can't right click on it (I could before ... just seems like it hasn't loaded)
[11:04] <Flannel> Jerry32: you checkout the samba page on the wiki?
[11:04] <AnssiP> stefg, like I said, I did that with GRUB boot disk they provide, but was unable to perform...
[11:05] <Jerry32> flannel: yea dude... it just doesn't seem to work... and i dont wanna have to keep leaving ubuntu to go into xp to view my media
[11:05] <Jerry32> :(
[11:05] <Leon> Hi, I've got a bit of a problem. I have updated to Ubuntu feisty from edgy. I only have the edgy install iso and I would like to install Ubuntu feisty onto another system without downloading packages, have got bandwidth problems.
[11:05] <AnssiP> stefg, I was looking for more detailed instructions...
[11:05] <siimo> hi where can i find alsaconf in feisty
[11:05] <Flannel> Jerry32: well, ftp is doable, if you can't get samba to work.
[11:05] <AlexC_> Leon: you'll have to install edgy then upgrade again,
[11:06] <Leon> is there no way i can clone my system onto the other install of edgy?
[11:06] <Jerry32> flannel: i have been looking at that - i got proftpd installed, but i cant figure how to configure that so that i can access my hdd, and not be locked in my home folder
[11:06] <AlexC_> Leon: nope, there isn't unfortunately
[11:06] <Flannel> Jerry32: Make an FTP user, make his home folder your windows drive.
[11:06] <incorrect> Flannel,  :) make a usb drive that boot (as many as possible) systems and choose the installer
[11:06] <Leon> tks AlexC_
[11:07] <stefg> AnssiP: i think the smartest way would be running /boot from a small USB-stick. The difficulty is that after each kernel update the /boot/grub/menu.list gets rewritten, thus a ROM-medium like CD is impractical
[11:07] <Jerry32> flannel: im pretty new when it comes to linux.. how would i do that?
[11:07] <Flannel> incorrect: Why not just download the DVD?  Its got both textmode and liveCD installer.
[11:07] <Jerry32> flannel: also - do i have to change my fstab so that the drives get mounted in a special way to allow access?
[11:07] <siimo> hi whats this weird "code"  in fstab file instead of /dev/sda1 or whatever
[11:08] <Flannel> Jerry32: in users and groups (system > admin > users and groups) make a new user (name it whatever) and set his homedir to whereever your widnows drive is mounted
[11:08] <Flannel> !uuid | siimo
[11:08] <ubotu> siimo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:08] <GeekMaster1> Flannel That worked. I have another question if you would be so kind...
[11:08] <Jerry32> flannel: thanks man - i'll give it a shot now
[11:08] <emman101> Jerry32:  try using webmin... it gives a friendly GUI for samba.. its easy to use you dont have to touch smb.conf
[11:08] <Leon> Thats just my problem, I have a download cap of 3GB and its almost been used up. If theres no other way than to download the DVD or the mini iso for 7.04 then I would unfortunately have to wait till next month.
[11:09] <AlexC_> Leon: only 10 more days =D
[11:09] <Jerry32> emman101: ok dude - i'll give that a shot before i try ftp... erm, do i install that in synaptic?
[11:09] <AnssiP> stefg, hmmm why not keep /boot where it is on my /dev/hda8 where all my Ubuntu is? Just need a bootable extra device to chain the boot into /dev/hda8...
[11:09] <Leon> AlexC_, hehehe tks !
[11:09] <siimo> Flannel: thanks now could you tell me how to hide certain partitions from ubuntu / xubuntu desktops  i dont want them mounted so i removed them from fstab but ubuntu is TOO smart and still shows them
[11:09] <Flannel> Leon: Your packages are in /var/cache/apt, but I don't know if there's an easy way to use that.  You might check out aptonCD, see if you can somehow make those cached packages into a CD repository, upgrade from that.  Why did you download the mini ISO?
[11:09] <Imsdle> i have just installed ubuntu server.. how do i setup the netwrok
[11:10] <Imsdle> i need to setup the gateway
[11:10] <Leon> Flannel, thinking i could install base and then upgrade from my running machine
[11:10] <GeekMaster1> I did something a while back to somehow mess up my trash-can. So since I did what I did (I'm not sure what I did) the trash-can just crashed. It just says emptying trash and stays there; hanging unless I click cancel. If I don't click cancel it will just stay there for GOOD saying emptying trash.
[11:10] <Flannel> Jerry32: if you copy your ubuntu line in fstab (if you only have one ubuntu drive, remove the ,errors=remount-ro, so it just says 'default') that should be fine for yourwindows drive
[11:11] <GeekMaster1> Is there anyone that might know what's going on with my trashcan?
[11:11] <Jerry32> flannel: thanks
[11:11] <AnssiP> Leon, I guess you can just copy all files over, then check your grub.conf, and there you go.
[11:11] <emman101> Jerry32:  yes then after installing open it in your browser
[11:11] <Leon> Flannel, tks, i'll go look at aptonCD
[11:12] <Jerry32> emman101: thanks man
[11:12] <GeekMaster1> Flannel You think you can help me with my trash problem?
[11:12] <Flannel> Leon: The problem is the apckages in that aren't really in a repository-ish format.  What you could do... is try and copy all those files over, and then they'll be caached.  If you upgrade with apt-get, you can use the --no-download option to make sure
[11:12] <Leon> AnssiP, that's what i was hoping i could do, i.e. install from mini (get the base done) and then just copy 'em
[11:12] <stefg> AnssiP: you'd need a CD which just holds the MBR portion of grub. But this is a fragile solution. if your partiton number or UUID changes, the hardcoded pointer to the menu.lst on the CD will point to nowhere. I'd get a 128 MB stick for 5 bucks, put /boot there, and boot from that.
[11:13] <Flannel> Leon: basically, you make apt look, and see that it has *all* those packages in the local cache, and it'll use those.
[11:13] <Stratos> hey guys, anyone in here using the creox application?
[11:13] <siimo> is there a way to tell ubuntu to NOT show /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda9  ?? i dont want to mount them ever they are backup stuffs that ubuntu shouldn't touch i want to remove these icons from my desktop but keep other parititions how to do this
[11:14] <Flannel> Leon: do this soon (or update your feisty install) so that you'll have the same package versions on both machines.  you might look into aptonCD anyway, as it'll allow you to keep up to date and only download one copy of each anyway (then you sneakernet the CD to the other computer to update)
[11:14] <Leon> cool, will play around with those ideas and get back on success/failure, tks for the help
[11:14] <xst> How do I make thunderbird use firefox as default browser instead of konqueror? (I have set firefox up as default browser in the KDE settings, but this is pretty much ignored)
[11:14] <Stratos> -> siimo edit your /etc/fstab file
[11:14] <siimo> Stratos: as i said before i have removed them all from fstab file but ubuntu still detects them
[11:14] <AnssiP> Why should Leon bother with anything than just ftp:ing the "/" from one machine to another, then checking that partitions match the /etc/fstab and grub.conf in the new machine?
[11:14] <Flannel> xst: What does 'sensible-browser' start?
[11:15] <Flannel> AnssiP: he could mirror his whole install, sure.
[11:15] <Flannel> !backup | Leon
[11:15] <ubotu> Leon: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:15] <xst> Flannel: it starts konqueror
[11:15] <AnssiP> !backup
[11:16] <GeekMaster1> Is there anyone willing to help me out with my trashcan issue?
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> GeekMaster1: lol, a trashcan issue?
[11:17] <Imsdle> how do i configure a netowrk from terminal?
[11:17] <GeekMaster1> IndyGunFreak:  I did something a while back to somehow mess up my trash-can. So since I did what I did (I'm not sure what I did) the trash-can just crashed. It just says emptying trash and stays there; hanging unless I click cancel. If I don't click cancel it will just stay there for GOOD saying emptying trash.
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> GeekMaster1: hmm, never heard of that.
[11:17] <AlexC_> Imsdle: getting a link, hold on
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> GeekMaster1: you can try going to /home/.Trash and just delete the files there.
[11:18] <Imsdle> thanks AlecC
[11:18] <Flannel> xst: That's most likely what thunderbird is calling.  update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:18] <AlexC_> Imsdle: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3 - its for 606 but its teh same file and things,
[11:18] <AlexC_> scroll down to Configure the network
[11:19] <Flannel> AlexC_, Imsdle, Stay far away from howtoforge.  They do stupid things.
[11:19] <Flannel> Imsdle: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/networking.html
[11:19] <AlexC_> Flannel: yes, I understand that - he wont be following the guide, just an example of what to do to get the network up
[11:19] <xst> Flannel: OK, thanks. However, this system-wide default browser configuration is not that elegant. Why can't I specify it at user level?
[11:20] <Imsdle> thank you
[11:20] <GeekMaster1> IndyGunFreak: But I'd have to do that EVERY time then. That would be inconvenient instead of actually fixing the issue.
[11:20] <Flannel> xst: I'm not sure if thunderbird has it's own setting for browser.  If it does, set that (it probably does).
[11:20] <rexsum> using 7.04 and mplayer i get very stuttering video playback, how can i fix this?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> GeekMaster1: well, i was just giving you a suggestion, ive never heard someone having your issue.
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> you screwed something up obviously
[11:21] <rexsum> for wmv formats that is
[11:21] <AnssiP> Leon, try somethking like this: sudo rsync --delete -azvv -e ssh /home remoteuser@remotehost.remotedomain:./backupdirectory
[11:21] <GeekMaster1> Is there anyone else in the room that might be able to help?
[11:21] <GeekMaster1> IndyGunFreak: Thanks anyway
[11:23] <AnssiP> Leon, you can do the over public Internet, and if the other machine has old files, it will only copu changes in each file. So you could first install Edgy there, which probably has 90% of same data.
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> hello
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> i'm newbie
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> using ubuntu
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> hello all
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> hello all
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> alo
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> alo
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> alo
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> tieuvinhlong: ?
[11:24] <tieuvinhlong> hi
[11:25] <tieuvinhlong> hi indigun
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> just ask your question
[11:25] <tieuvinhlong> hi
[11:25] <tieuvinhlong> hi
[11:25] <Leon> AnssiP, tks, i'll try that 1st
[11:25] <tieuvinhlong> i install vmware
[11:25] <tieuvinhlong> but error
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> ok....
[11:26] <Flannel> !enter | tieuvinhlong
[11:26] <ubotu> tieuvinhlong: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> make[2] : *** [/tmp/vmware-config6/vmmon-only/common/task.o]  Error 1
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> make[1] : *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config6/vmmon-only]  Error 2
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic'
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> make: *** [vmmon.ko]  Error 2
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config6/vmmon-only'
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> Unable to build the vmmon module.
[11:26] <Flannel> !paste | tieuvinhlong
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please
[11:26] <ubotu> tieuvinhlong: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> visit our Web site at "http://www.vmware.com/download/modules/modules.html" and
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> "http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html".
[11:26] <tieuvinhlong> Execution aborted.
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[11:27] <tieuvinhlong> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config6/vmmon-only'
[11:27] <tieuvinhlong> Unable to build the vmmon module.
[11:27] <tippe_66> #cw
[11:27] <AlexC_> haha my god what just went on =D
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> what went on?
[11:28] <stefg> !vmware | tieuvinhlong
[11:28] <ubotu> tieuvinhlong: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:28] <AlexC_> IndyGunFreak: twas on about tieuvinhlong
[11:28] <Bassetts> can someone tell me how I can set exaile as my default music player, and where the default wallpapers are
[11:28] <wolfeon> 64 bits compiles will give incorrectly saved .blend files. Do not use it.
[11:28] <wolfeon> *** If you continue to run this executable, you really are quite stupid ***
[11:28] <wolfeon> does this still hold true?
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> AlexC_: oh, doesn't know how to use pastebin i guess, so he pasted his whole terminal here.
[11:29] <Flannel> wolfeon: What are you talking about?
[11:29] <wolfeon> Flannel: that came from blender
[11:29] <AlexC_> IndyGunFreak: yeah but all the "hi hi allo halllo hi hi alloa" lol
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> well, that to.
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:29] <wolfeon> Flannel: run blender from a terminal window and that is cast to the stderr
[11:29] <stefg> AlexC_: vietnamese commuication habbits, i guess :-)
[11:30] <yapu> hello room....
[11:30] <AlexC_> yay were a room
[11:30] <TaJMoX> guy4girl nice name
[11:30] <tieuvinhlong> i install vmware-server
[11:30] <yapu> i was trying the ubuntu .... and booted up from the CD, it's asking for a username and password.... any default un/pw?
[11:31] <Flannel> yapu: is it an official ubuntu CD?  not some crappy knockoff?
[11:31] <AlexC_> yapu: did you get the OEM cd?
[11:31] <yapu> help...
[11:31] <tieuvinhlong> yapu : you can use command : sudo -s
[11:31] <yapu> anyone please
[11:31] <aortega> hy
[11:31] <AlexC_> yapu: erm, were trying lol
[11:31] <Bassetts> can someone tell me how I can set exaile as my default music player, and where the default wallpapers are
[11:31] <stefg> tieuvinhlong: the reason for your error is *the first sentence* in the link ubotu gave you, would you mind to read it?
[11:31] <tieuvinhlong> sudo -s . you become root
[11:31] <yapu> i downloaded it... burned it on CD
[11:31] <AlexC_> yapu: which one,
[11:31] <Bassetts> yapu, where did you download from?
[11:31] <Tremitos> hey
[11:31] <yapu> ubuntu...
[11:31] <Tremitos> I'll find out
[11:31] <yapu> not the kubuntu or edubuntu
[11:32] <Flannel> yapu: The real Ubuntu CD?  That's a bad burn.  Check the MD5 of the iso, re-burn at 4x.
[11:32] <AlexC_> yapu: I mean did you get the Alternate CD or the Desktop CD
[11:32] <yapu> downloaded it lastweek from ubuntu.com
[11:32] <yapu> i requested one but haven't got it yet
[11:32] <tieuvinhlong> i install vmware-server . but i got error : Unable to build the vmmon module.
[11:32] <AlexC_> yapu: I mean did you get the Alternate CD or the Desktop CD
[11:33] <tieuvinhlong> stefg : help me
[11:33] <yapu> what difference does it make burning it at 4x against 40x?
[11:33] <Flannel> yapu: re-burn at 4x, check the md5 of your ISO first as well.
[11:33] <tonsofpcs> yapu: *10
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> yapu: a big difference
[11:33] <yapu> i know... how would you explain it in layman's term?
[11:33] <stefg> tieuvinhlong: help yourself, by just reading the info in the link.... i'm not going to read it to you
[11:33] <Flannel> yapu: 4x burns better.  40x enables some software caching, which can screw up ISOs (in which theres a lot of information per byte)
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> yapu: fast burns arent as good as slow burns... laymans terms
[11:34] <Flannel> yapu: well, 40x doesn't enable, but usually 4x disables it, higher speeds dont.
[11:34] <yapu> ok.... thanks...
[11:34] <incorrect> so can you apt-get install the server installation tool?
[11:34] <yapu> so any burning speed higher than 4x isn't good?
[11:35] <tonsofpcs> the slower the burn, teh more reliable it is
[11:35] <Paddy_EIRE> yapu, depends
[11:35] <stefg> tieuvinhlong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338305 READ THIS ! /caps off
[11:35] <gordonjcp> tonsofpcs: to an extent, yes
[11:35] <incorrect> !install
[11:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:35] <tieuvinhlong> thanks stefg
[11:35] <yapu> so, there isn't any default username/password for trying ubuntu?
[11:35] <Sergo> how to restore system if something goes wrong?
[11:35] <gordonjcp> tonsofpcs: 1x speed writing is actually less reliable than 2x speed
[11:35] <yo2k> yapu: more slow more good, say some development burn cd...
[11:35] <yapu> since mine is starting up with one?
[11:35] <tonsofpcs> gordonjcp: not on 1x media it isn't
[11:36] <gordonjcp> tonsofpcs: yeah, ok, on 1x media I suppose
[11:36] <gordonjcp> tonsofpcs: where are you getting this old stuff?
[11:36] <tieuvinhlong> thansk for all
[11:36] <tieuvinhlong> bye
[11:37] <AlexC_> yapu: I've seen a lot of people having the problem, do a search for it on Ubuntuforums
[11:37] <tonsofpcs> where are you figuring that 2x is better than 1x?
[11:38] <stefg> Sergo: by making a backup beforehand
[11:38] <yapu> i started ubuntu in safemode and it took me on to the signon screen.... i couldn't get through.... it seems to me that they don't really want this software tried successfully... haha
[11:39] <Sergo> stefg: bad to hear that
[11:39] <stefg> yapu: ubuntu *is* user firendly, it's just picky who its friens are .-)
[11:39] <Sergo> )
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: did you not make a backup?
[11:39] <yapu> hahaha.... really?
[11:39] <user1__> newbies are her friends
[11:39] <Sergo> nope
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> lol, well how did you expect to do a system restore?
[11:40] <stefg> Sergo:  so what went wrong?
[11:40] <user1__> anyone use kde?
[11:40] <yapu> come on guys... default un/pw for ubuntu?
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> yapu: there isn't one, it should boot right to the desktop
[11:40] <Sergo> IndyGunFreak: from swap is possible to make system restore?
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: no.
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: swap only helps with system performance when your'e low on ram
[11:41] <VSpike> This is very freaky ... all the fonts in my apps keep sporadically changing size
[11:41] <yapu> it brought me right to the ubuntu login
[11:41] <AlexC_> yapu: *sigh* do you have some weird vision problem so you can';t see what I write or something?
[11:41] <VSpike> mook
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> yapu: then you did something wrong
[11:41] <VSpike> mookid: good nick
[11:41] <yapu> i typed in a blank username... and says Authentication failed
[11:41] <Sergo> IndyGunFreak: in windows xp for example is an tool that pefrom System Restore, isn't such tool in linux?
[11:41] <Sergo> =] 
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: but even in Windows, if you system restore isn't on, it doesn't work
[11:42] <AlexC_> ok, I wont help then yapu ><
[11:42] <Sergo> it's on by default
[11:42] <Sergo> it's turned on by default
[11:42] <pshico> alguien habla espaol?
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: lol, so what were you doing when you screwed up your install?
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> !es
[11:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:42] <stefg> yapu: so you're using the Luve CD, but it fails to give you a GUI and you are takne to the command line login?
[11:43] <stefg> lol s/luve/Live
[11:43] <pshico> thx
[11:43] <Sergo> but i think in linux i can heart system only with root
[11:43] <stefg> !root | Sergo
[11:43] <cooly> how can i play warrock in linux with wine ?
[11:43] <ubotu> Sergo: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:44] <Sergo> i use root very accuarate
[11:44] <cooly> como puesso  jogar el warrock con o win ?
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> Sergo: using a root account isn't smart.
[11:44] <yapu> stefg: its a liveCD iso. i burned it on a CD. i tried to boot in safemode direct from the CD, and it brought me to the GUI screen where it's asking for a username and then a password
[11:44] <Sergo> only when it's neccesary
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> well, using a root account for general purposes, isn'tnecessary
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> or safe
[11:45] <AlexC_> yapu: if you had bothered to read what I've been trying to say to you, go to Ubuntuforums and search for it - it's been asked quite a few times as people have been having the same problem
[11:45] <Sergo> but linux required root sometime
[11:45] <Sergo> require*
[11:45] <stefg> yabu:hmm, strange... try username 'ubunt' and a blank pw
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> true...
[11:45] <stefg> yabu:hmm, strange... try username 'ubuntu' and a blank pw
[11:45] <cooly> how can i play warrock in linux with wine ? / como puesso  jogar el warrock con o wine ?
[11:46] <VSpike> Sergo: I've only found one case so far where it's necessary
[11:46] <cooly> how can i play warrock in linux with wine ? / como puesso  jogar el warrock con o wine ?
[11:46] <galorin> I've got a cooling problem,but while I wait for my new accessories to arrive,is there some way that I can use gkrellm's alarm system to find and kill a proces that starts using all my CPU?
[11:46] <stefg> cooly , please don't spam, try #winehq , and use #ubuntu-es for spanish
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | cooly
[11:47] <ubotu> cooly: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:47] <Sergemine> hi,guys
[11:47] <Sergemine> need your help
[11:47] <yapu> thanks AlexC, i trying to search for it in the forum.... let me see what i'll get
[11:47] <miramana> galorin: use top
[11:47] <AlexC_> yapu: wow, you read what I said! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473860&highlight=live+cd+username there is one for you
[11:48] <yapu> stefg: it didn't work... i also tried un: ubuntu and pw: ubuntu.... still didn't work
[11:48] <iknowbob> when i try to go to sleep mode, the screen will go black, but not power down.  and my pcmcia slot won't come back online.  and when i try to switch users, the system locks.  help, please!?!
[11:48] <Sergo> anyone know, is there any application for gnome that detects WiFi automatic ?
[11:49] <stefg> yapu: no idea. normally the LiveCD user is ubuntu, no pw. But i wonder why you're taken to the login screen at all
[11:49] <yapu> AlexC: i have... but i was then looking for a straightforward workaround..
[11:49] <Sergo> i mean wifi points
[11:49] <mat1980> how to change default login manager?
[11:49] <mookid> What's the best Music and/or video players available at the moment?
[11:49] <stefg> !player
[11:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:49] <mezziah> mat1980: a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' should do it, a list with the login managers you installed appears then
[11:49] <cooly> !patience | indygunfreak
[11:49] <ubotu> indygunfreak: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:50] <mookid> stefg - I'm looking for opinions not a list thanks :))
[11:50] <Sergemine> I was trying to boot from the ubuntu live cd on my SAMSUNG R40plus notebook pc with a cheap intgrated ATI RADEON Graphics adapter but the X couldn't start! I tryed vga=771. Didn't help. HOW CAN I SOVLE IT? PLEASE!
[11:50] <mat1980> mezziah: thanks a lot!
[11:50] <galorin> miramana, top just tells me what processesaredoing what,I need a way to pull the top listed process out,and kill it.Is there not a trivial way to do this?
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> cooly: what are you talking about.. ive not even asked a question.
[11:50] <cooly> !shutup | indygunfreak
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <cooly> lol
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[11:50] <Sergo> )
[11:50] <cooly> sucker
[11:50] <cooly> ;)
[11:50] <mezziah> guys, please :)
[11:50] <Sergo> !language
[11:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:50] <VSpike> Sergemine: try vesa to get started, then enable binary ATI driver
[11:51] <mookid> !moo
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <miramana> galorin: press 'k' and enter PID
[11:51] <LGKeiz> moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) up: 1wk 7hrs 11mins 5secs cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz at 1993MHz (5% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB res: 1024x768 32bit 60Hz ram: 525/1535MB (34.21%) [|||-------]  hdd: C:\ 58.77GB/111.76GB net: Wireless-G PCI Adapter with SRX400 - 108MB/s -1.57GB In 469.77MB Out
[11:51] <stefg> mookid: for audio amarok has the biggest mindshare, for video vlc is the 'swiss army officers' chainsaw'
[11:51] <Sergemine> VSpike how do i set it to use veas?
[11:51] <iknowbob> anyone know how to resolve sleep mode issues?
[11:51] <mookid> stefg - thanks bud mushc appreciated ;)
[11:51] <VSpike> Sergemine: can you get a root command prompt?
[11:51] <Bassetts> is ndis 1.9 not available on dapper?
[11:52] <cooly> !ping | indygunfreak
[11:52] <ubotu> indygunfreak: pong
[11:52] <cooly> stupid command
[11:52] <hylje> no
[11:52] <galorin> miramana, I'm looking to automate this,so that instead of gkrellmsounding an alarm or shutting down my system when my CPU gets too hot,it kills the process.WHat you suggest won't work because the CPU-heavy processes usually kick in when I'm asleep.
[11:53] <cooly> how can i open a irc channel ?
[11:53] <AlexC_> cooly: /join #channel
[11:53] <VSpike> galorin: kde has a runaway task catcher - might be some use?
[11:53] <VSpike> galorin: it does what you want I think
[11:54] <galorin> VSpike, what'd it be called?
[11:55] <galorin> I'm actually running xubuntu
[11:55] <usuario_> soraya
[11:55] <Sergemin1> (12:52:22) Sergemine: VSpike i tryed to reconfigure x to use ati driver and it didn't work
[11:55] <Sergemin1> (12:52:47) Sergemine: VSpike can I specified the graphics adaper driver on boot?
[11:55] <Sergemin1> (12:53:09) Sergemine: VSpike I used sudo to do the root comands
[11:55] <iknowbob> can anyone help with sleep mode issues?
[11:56] <usuario_> soraya
[11:56] <VSpike> galorin: not sure - it's a panel applet
[11:56] <Sergemin1> VSpike can I specified the graphics adaper driver on boot???
[11:56] <VSpike> It calls itself "Runaway Process Catcher" but not sure what the app would be called
[11:57] <Hallongodis> how do you make an at (the a with a circle you write in emails) i know where it is but the command isnt accepteed
[11:57] <usuario_> speak spanish here?
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> Hallongodis: ? try Shift + 2
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> @
[11:58] <VSpike> Sergemin1: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[11:58] <VSpike> Then type startx
[11:58] <galorin> VSpike, Ah, so me being on xubuntu may be a hamper...
[11:58] <Hallongodis> i have a swedish keyboard so that results in "
[11:58] <VSpike> galorin: yeah :/ I'd guess so
[11:58] <Sergemin1> VSpike can I specified the graphics adaper driver on boot? By entering F6 and writing a command some thing like: vgadriver=ati?
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> Hallongodis: well, then you're gonna have to ask someone familiar with swedish keyboards
[11:59] <Hallongodis> do you know what name the swedish ubuntu irc has?
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> would be helpful to mention that in your question
[11:59] <Sergemin1> VSpike yes.
[11:59] <VSpike> Sergemin1: no - it's nothing to do with the boot process.  You need to edit the x server configuration
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> !swedish
[11:59] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:59] <VSpike> Sergemin1: OK .. then do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.saved
[12:00] <Sergemin1> VSpike i tryed to reconfigure the x server to ati, not vesa. do you think changing it to vesa should help?
[12:00] <VSpike> Sergemin1: Then do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <iknowbob> have a gateway laptop and sleep mode causes issues and my pcmcia slot never comes back up. can anyone help?
[12:00] <VSpike> Sergemin1: Look for section device, and change Driver to "vesa"
[12:01] <yapu> i restarted the computer from the ubuntu CD, it gives me I/O Error on device fd0, logical block 0. then after a while, it goes to the ubuntu GUI login screen where it asks for a username and password... anyone knows what this means?
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> wel, fdo is a floppy drive
[12:02] <yapu> i don't have the floppy drive attached to it... its a laptop
[12:02] <stefg> yapu: does the computer have floppy drive at all, and are you using it?
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> yapu: well, then you've got issues.
[12:02] <VSpike> yapu: you just get that when no floppy attached I think
[12:02] <VSpike> yapu: I've seen that message
[12:02] <stefg> yapu: i c... irq conflict it seems.
[12:02] <yapu> oh... is that so...
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> i don't't hink i've ever seen tha message
[12:03] <iknowbob> i don't have a floppy on my laptop, and it doesn't give me that message
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> not used a floppy disk in years
[12:03] <VSpike> yapu: is it an old laptop which changeable modules?
[12:03] <DexThePanda> Hello
[12:03] <yapu> i do have a usb floppy but rarely use it
[12:03] <DexThePanda> Can anyone tell me the difference between the ubuntu CD and DVD
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> DexThePanda: packages
[12:04] <yapu> some sort... its a dell latitude
[12:04] <stefg> yapu: there's special boot parameters you can try to work around that
[12:04] <stefg> !boot
[12:04] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:04] <stefg> yapu: see the first link on boot options
[12:04] <yapu> ok... let me check that
[12:04] <HawkeV> anyone know if 2.6.17-10-generic on x86_64 has memory leak issues?
[12:04] <DexThePanda> IndyGunFreak In the Apps menu there is no more programs then the CD version tho
[12:04] <yapu> thanks...
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> DexThePanda: wierd.
[12:05] <dedi> i have dualscreen setup on my second pc like on my first. i also have a bigger desktop (mouse can go out), but both screens are showing the same.
[12:05] <morpheus> anybody used freeradius on ubuntu?
[12:06] <stefg> !xinerama | dedi
[12:06] <ubotu> dedi: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:06] <DexThePanda> IndyGunFreak Hmmm
[12:06] <MrOtacon> can anyone help me with my samba config please... i've read all mn pages and all materials i could find. i have my xbox connecting to it, it can browse folders, but as soon as i try to access my hdd, it asks for a username and password.. i hve tried all my ubuntu ones and still nothing... its stressing me out... do i have to mount my disks specially or share them a certain way so that any user can access them (read only?)
[12:07] <dedi> stefg no i dont see the second screen, and my both screens are showing the first one
[12:08] <c2c2rock> Open Source GNU e-commerce and anything to do with Making money Online within the GPL world and I am letting You know I have one hosting package with one ftp account and one email pop3 $2.00 a month until it Expires on: February 04, 2009 this however would need to be paid in full to paypal in order to get the discount for more info feel free to contact me ssh would be available to some ;) I am desparate can't yah Tell :p
[12:09] <mongolai> !grub
[12:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:10] <VSpike> MrOtacon: did you set "guestok = yes" on the share?
[12:10] <actimel> hi
[12:11] <MrOtacon> VSpike: I set "only guest = yes" ... do i need guestok?
[12:11] <VSpike> MrOtacon: yes, you need that as well
[12:12] <Leon> Hi guys, when I was talking to AnssiP earlier he gave me rsync cmd line and its scrolled out of my xchat screen buffer. Has any one got logging enabled that could maybe look up the command he wrote in the channel for me please?
[12:12] <MrOtacon> VSpike: Ok - thanks - i'll give it a shot... is it "guestok" or "guest ok"?
[12:12] <VSpike> "guest ok" looks like
[12:12] <VSpike> MrOtacon: ^
[12:13] <Davasaurous> Hey guys, no major problem, just finding that I get a lot of lag on my computer and the system slows down while there is a Java Applet running in Firefox. Any solutions? I'm running the Java Webstart 6 version I believe
[12:13] <MrOtacon> VSpike: Thanks dude... will try it now :)
[12:13] <hoelk> hmm
[12:13] <VSpike> MrOtacon: have you specified "guest account" in the global section?
[12:14] <actimel> i am new in ubuntu , can someone tell me how to put my documents icon on desktop?
[12:14] <hoelk> is there any really fast desktop environment you can install under ubuntu without much trouble?
[12:14] <Sergo> hey
[12:14] <hoelk> something thats even slimmer than xfce
[12:14] <Bassetts> what is the point of using pgp for crypting emails if anyone with a public key can read them?
[12:14] <hoelk> ?
[12:14] <Sergo> does ubuntu 7.04 have control center?
[12:14] <VSpike> you will need to point that to a valid user that exists in the passwd file.  Doesn't need to be able to login though.  Typically it would be something like "nobody" or "ftp".
[12:14] <VSpike> MrOtacon: ^
[12:15] <mongolai> Leon:   sudo rsync --delete -azvv -e ssh /home remoteuser@remotehost.remotedomain:./backupdirectory
[12:15] <MrOtacon> VSpike: No - i thought "map to guest = bad user" would do it, so if no username was entered it would auto be guest?!? i might have made a mistake there
[12:15] <VSpike> MrOtacon: You will also need to make sure that that user has permissions to access the files you are sharing
[12:15] <Sergo> VSpike hello
[12:15] <DexThePanda> The md5 matches so my download isnt bad
[12:15] <Sergo> VSpike: do you know, does ubuntu have control center?
[12:15] <MrOtacon> VSpike: do i have to mount the hdd a special way to allow everyone access? in fstab?
[12:15] <Sergo> from where i can configure
[12:15] <DexThePanda> Why is there no more Packs then the CD version on my DVD versin
[12:15] <Sergo> gg
[12:15] <south01> hi, how can i open rar files
[12:16] <Sergo> south01: install rar
[12:16] <Sergo> sudo aptitude install rar
[12:16] <A[D] minS> !pdf editor
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdf editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Sergo> where is ubuntu control center i can't find it
[12:17] <A[D] minS> Guys anyone know any program to edit pdf file?
[12:17] <VSpike> MrOtacon: that is also sensible to have, but you will need the "guest account" specified too
[12:17] <Leon> mongolai, tks a stack! there was a 2nd instruction a few lines down from him too, if you have that as well pls I'd appreciate it...
[12:17] <VSpike> Sergo: sorry I use kubuntu so it will be different there
[12:17] <mongolai> actimel: hold on a sec...
[12:17] <VSpike> MrOtacon: Are you sharing a whole drive?
[12:17] <Sergo> VSpike :D why then you aren't on #kubuntu
[12:17] <Leon> i've turned on logging now :) won't do that again
[12:18] <HawkeV> anyone here actually willing to entertain a question more complicated than 'how do i install this application'?
[12:18] <VSpike> Sergo: my original question wasnt specific to kde and there are more people here :)
[12:18] <Sergemine> VSpike is there a vga=????? command to write during boot to set 1280x800 resolution ??? please
[12:18] <VSpike> Sergo: good point - i totally forgot even what my question was now
[12:18] <MrOtacon> VSpike: so just "guest account = guest" in global.... yea - im trying to share two drives, they are both just full of media, but all in seperate folders... one is partition one of my main drive (is XP) and the second is another hdd
[12:18] <mongolai> Leon, you can do the over public Internet, and if the other machine has old files, it will only copu changes in each file. So you could first install Edgy there, which probably has 90% of same data.
[12:18] <mat1980> sergo: you should see it under system->preferences. But if you upgraded from a previous version it will not show it.
[12:19] <DexThePanda> No one at all knows
[12:19] <Leon> mongolai, tks again...
[12:19] <Davasaurous> I get a lot of lag on my computer and the system slows down while there is a Java Applet running in Firefox. Any solutions? I'm running the Java Webstart 6 version I believe
[12:19] <mongolai> no problemo
[12:19] <VSpike> Sergemine: those commands only set the text modes of the console before X starts - they have no effect on X.  Do you have your X server running now?
[12:19] <t2> hi, i cannot find "skype" in the repos... i used source-o-matic and selected most things including comm.  any idea where i can find skype ?
[12:20] <mongolai> actimel: hit alt+f2 then type in "gconf-editor" without quotes...
[12:20] <Rolls> How ubuntu works with ntfs? Is writing on this volume damage FS ?
[12:20] <VSpike> t2: you can download a deb of the latest beta directo from skype site
[12:20] <VSpike> !ntfs-3g | Rolls
[12:20] <Sergemine> VSpike no. i am using the windowsmustdie!
[12:20] <ubotu> Rolls: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:20] <t2> VSpike:  so is it safe to install .deb packages on ubuntu ?
[12:21] <mat1980> t2: why don't you download it from skype website?
[12:21] <mongolai> actimel: go to /apps/nautilus/desktop and check the appropriate boxes.
[12:21] <mat1980> Rolls: writing on ntfs should work fine.
[12:22] <VSpike> t2: well that's like asking if it's safe to install software.  Answer is, do you trust the source?  But yes, the package from Skype seems to work fine.  You could argue that because it's closed source you can't 100% trust it :) That's for you to decide
[12:22] <Yasuo> hi, how do i prevent the package mplayer (self compiled) from beeing updated
[12:22] <t2> mat1980:  when i try to go to skype.com using firefox i get "Access Denied (policy_denied)  Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL."... where did that come from
[12:22] <Rolls> Thanks for answers :)
[12:22] <VSpike> MrOtacon: as long as you have a "guest" in /etc/passwd that should be OK
[12:23] <tic> Anyone here using the X3100 (965G) driver in 7.04? (i.e., backported from 7.10)
[12:23] <VSpike> If I remember, ntfs media are usually mounted so that everyone has read/write permissions by default so you should be OK
[12:23] <VSpike> MrOtacon: ^
[12:23] <MrOtacon> VSpike: I just created that. thanks... will give it a shot now
[12:23] <Rolls> In old linux version the function of writing to ntfs has blocked. It works only after recompiling the kernel.
[12:24] <DexThePanda> Why cant i find a damnlist of packages for the ubuntu DVD on the website
[12:24] <VSpike> rol
[12:24] <spheard> hi, I have a dell inspiron 1501. Does anyone know about getting wireless going on this thing "Linux andrew-laptop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[12:24] <VSpike> Rolls: ntfs-3g uses fuse, so is userspace I think
[12:24] <metbsd> mad wifi
[12:25] <spheard> metbsd: madwifi?
[12:25] <metbsd> yah
[12:25] <HawkeV> Mem:          2010       1733        276          0          0        427
[12:25] <HawkeV> can someone explain why ubuntu is leaking massive amounts of memory?
[12:25] <Davasaurous> I get a lot of lag on my computer and the system slows down while there is a Java Applet running in Firefox. Any solutions? I'm running the Java Webstart 6 version I believe
[12:26] <MrOtacon> VSpike: just another quickie dude... is there anyway to disable the boot up screen so i can see the code as it boots?
[12:26] <spheard> metbsd: how?
[12:26] <mat1980> HawkeV: that amount of memory is with or without buffers/cache?
[12:27] <HawkeV>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[12:27] <HawkeV> Mem:          2010       1733        276          0          0        427
[12:27] <HawkeV> -/+ buffers/cache:       1305        704
[12:27] <HawkeV> there's the full paste
[12:27] <kismet> how can i see how much ram is being used ?
[12:27] <HawkeV> i wouldn't be at all bothered, but, one it gets to this point, you can no longer allocate more memory than the number in the free column
[12:27] <Rolls> MrOtacon: Alt-Ctrl-F1 :)
[12:28] <VSpike> MrOtacon: on Ubuntu?
[12:28] <VSpike> MrOtacon: change grub line to add "nosplash" and remove "quiet"
[12:28] <HawkeV> 18882 root       1 -19  258m  93m  292 R   16  4.6   0:00.08 membench
[12:28] <xst> I am using kubuntu on a laptop but when I try to configure the external monitor from "System Settings -> Monitor & Display" the X-server won't restart. Also, I can see in xorg.conf, that only a 640z480 resolution is added for the monitor. Quite strange. What should I do in order to configure my external monitor?
[12:29] <actimel> can someone tell me how to put "my documents" icon on desktop on ubuntu?
[12:29] <MrOtacon> Rolls: wo - didn't know you could get a terminal like that - scared me half to death then
[12:29] <mat1980> HawkeV: I guess you can allocate as much as free memory + swap. However you really have much memory allocated. What application do you use?
[12:29] <VSpike> MrOtacon: if you want to change it to the default for booting, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:29] <MrOtacon> VSpike: thanks man... thats it :)
[12:29] <HawkeV> mat1980: there are no applications running on this box
[12:29] <HawkeV> barring ssh and gmond
[12:30] <HawkeV> mat1980: http://pastebin.ca/581024
[12:30] <VSpike> MrOtacon: best way is to find the line that starts "# kopt=" and change the options there
[12:30] <kismet> I think my pc is hogging a lot of memory, how can i go about check it out?
[12:30] <alumno> jane
[12:31] <VSpike> MrOtacon: that way, when your kernel gets upgraded and the boot menu gets regenerated, the new options will stick
[12:31] <MrOtacon> VSpike: Ok - :) thanks
[12:31] <chicas69> olaa
[12:31] <chicas69> eee
[12:31] <chicas69> ee
[12:31] <chicas69> ee
[12:31] <chicas69> ee
[12:31] <chicas69> eeoo
[12:31] <alumno> hola
[12:31] <VSpike> MrOtacon: if you edit the "kernel" lines, they will get overwritten when the list is regenerated
[12:31] <chicas69> kien eres
[12:31] <chicas69> ???
[12:32] <chicas69> ?
[12:32] <alumno> soy yo
[12:32] <chicas69> dw
[12:32] <MrOtacon> VSpike: So I shouldn't edit them?
[12:32] <alumno> y kien eres tu
[12:32] <Teonnyn> I'm trying to install the ATI Radeon Mobility drivers for the 9700..but the file comes in a .run format which is opened in gedit, and it's failing to even start installing...what should I do?
[12:33] <mat1980> HawkeV: look at gnome-system-monitor and see what is the application with the highest memory consumption.
[12:33] <rambo3> Teonnyn, use terminal
[12:33] <alumno> holaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
[12:33] <bullgard4> dmidecode does not print a line "Smart Battery is supported." Where can I find a definition of this 'smart battery'?
[12:33] <VSpike> MrOtacon: you can - it will work, but it will get overwritten because that list is autogenerated.  Read the comments in the file, it explains it.  But if you edit the # kopt= line, those are the options that get added when the list is generated
[12:33] <rambo3> !hi | alumno
[12:33] <ubotu> alumno: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:33] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action in ubuntu ?
[12:33] <Teonnyn> rambo, how?
[12:33] <VSpike> MrOtacon: If you just want to do it once, you can edit it manually from the grub menu at boot time too :)
[12:34] <MrOtacon> VSpike: Ahhh - Yep, I understand
[12:34] <alumno> hola chicas 69
[12:34] <rambo3> Temporo,  $  ./file.rin
[12:34] <rambo3> run
[12:34] <kowi> Hello! Is anyone using Evolution with POP?
[12:34] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:34] <HawkeV> mat1980: i just gave you a ps output on pastebin
[12:34] <VSpike> MrOtacon: forgot to say, if you edit the kopt line, you need to do "sudo update-grub" to rebuild the menu
[12:34] <HawkeV> this is a server
[12:34] <HawkeV> there is no gnome
[12:34] <HawkeV> there are no apps running
[12:34] <rambo3> !ati | Teonnyn
[12:34] <ubotu> Teonnyn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <alumno> k aseis guapetonas
[12:35] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:35] <rambo3> !es | alumno
[12:35] <Teonnyn> Thanks :)
[12:35] <ubotu> alumno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:35] <MrOtacon> VSpike: :) - that was my next question... only ever used lilo before, but thought it would have to be rebuilt
[12:35] <VSpike> MrOtacon: man update-grub is quite informative too but mostly similar to what's in the comments in menu.lst
[12:35] <_Ahti> !fi
[12:35] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[12:35] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:35] <VSpike> MrOtacon: yeah I was more used to lilo but quite like grub now
[12:36] <rambo3> !quickcam
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quickcam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <jaro> Hello everybody
[12:36] <Teonnyn> Permission Denied
[12:36] <crishnakh> holas
[12:36] <jaro> does anyone know if there is a channel for Linux Mint users ??
[12:36] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:36] <jaro> or can anybody help me out here ?
[12:36] <rambo3> Teonnyn, sudo chmod  777 file.run
[12:37] <MrOtacon> VSpike: Yeah... all my distros are outdated, just got this, and figured... what the hell - time to move with thing :) - im gonna reboot see if this works - thanks for help
[12:37] <zurk> can anyone help me with smb?
[12:37] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:37] <Gnea> jaro: have you looked at the linux mint webpage?
[12:37] <VSpike> MrOtacon: np.. you shouldn't need to reboot to change samba options though
[12:37] <mat1980> HawkeV: I saw, but it seems is not sorted by memory. Every task seems to consume less then 1% of total memory. It seems impossible. Have you tried to do a rootkit check?
[12:38] <derf4002> #
[12:38] <cooly> how can i install the drivers of my logitech wingman action (gamepad) in ubuntu ?
[12:38] <cooly> help me
[12:38] <cooly> dammit
[12:38] <jaro> ah i got it :-) thank you
[12:38] <HawkeV> mat1980: not much point, this box isn't connected in any way to the outside world
[12:38] <Gnea> cooly: forget you, i don't help those that demand it.
[12:39] <south01> hi, are there anyway to use terminal services full screen
[12:39] <zurk> my network is really slow when browsing my windows machine, can anyone help?
[12:39] <rambo3> cooly, no one knows , google is your only option
[12:39] <Gnea> south01: what terminal services, exactly?
[12:39] <south01> remote desktop
[12:39] <alumno> hola
[12:39] <mat1980> HawkeV: well... I have no idea. maybe it's only memory leack.
[12:40] <Gnea> zurk: run a network sniffer on your ubuntu system
[12:40] <mezziah> alumno: tambin hay un canal espanol, #ubuntu-es
[12:40] <zurk> Gnea, thx
[12:40] <_Ahti> zurk: I recommend Wireshark
[12:41] <Teonnyn> hmm.. install seemed to work then failed
[12:41] <Teonnyn> Trying again
[12:41] <HawkeV> mat1980: yes, i think it's a memory leak too, hence being here and asking if there was a known issue with memory leaks under the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel rev
[12:41] <HawkeV> should i be asking elsewhere?
[12:41] <south01> gnea i am trying to use remote desktop
[12:41] <Gnea> south01: have you tried alt+enter?
[12:42] <south01> gnea : not working
[12:42] <Gnea> south01: hrm, is that vncviewer?
[12:42] <VSpike> HawkeV: could try ##linux - they are a bit prickly but pretty knowledgeable
[12:43] <Gnea> south01: http://www.debianadmin.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu.html
[12:43] <MrOtacon> VSpikes: Thank you so much dude... My Samba Shares are now all working, and the nosplash works :)
[12:43] <VSpike> MrOtacon: yay!
[12:43] <HawkeV> VSpike: this is ubuntu specific... i doubt they're going to be much help tbh
[12:43] <mat1980> HawkeV: sorry, I didn't understood you asked about memory leak. Now I have to go to lunch. Bye.
[12:43] <MrOtacon> VSpikes: :)
[12:44] <VSpike> HawkeV: True, although I was think the method of diagnosing it would be common
[12:44] <MrOtacon> VSpikes: I'm off to fall asleep to a movie now... only been trying to get it sorted 8 hours :)
[12:44] <VSpike> MrOtacon: for future reference...
[12:45] <MrOtacon> VSpike: yes dude?
[12:45] <VSpike> MrOtacon: you don't need to reboot to update samba changes.  sudo invoke-rc.d samba force-reload
[12:45] <VSpike> MrOtacon: Maybe you knew that, but just in case :)
[12:46] <MrOtacon> VSpike: ahhh - right... no, i didn't - i used "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" but it didn't seem to implement the changes... thanks :)
[12:46] <VSpike> MrOtacon: should be the same, i agree
[12:47] <VSpike> MrOtacon:  invoke-rc.d should do the same as calling init script directly, and restart will do everything force-reload does and more
[12:47] <VSpike> MrOtacon: force-reload usually sends a sighup which most daemons interpret as a trigger to re-read config files
[12:48] <VSpike> mr
[12:48] <VSpike> MrOtacon: anyway - enjoy the movie, glad it's workig
[12:48] <MrOtacon> VSpike: :) thanks. hopefully, by the end of the week, i will be used to a debian based system...
[12:48] <MrOtacon> VSpike: yeah, me too :) catch ya later matey
[12:48] <VSpike> mr
[12:48] <VSpike> MrOtacon: see ya
[12:52] <alesan> re
[12:52] <alesan> isn't "pidgin" in the repositories?
[12:52] <VSpike> Why do my fonts keep changing size? Very odd
[12:52] <VSpike> Perhaps its a KDE issue
[12:53] <muszek> hi... what could be the reason for an executable iptables script in /etc/init.d not being executed on boot?  i have to run it manually after the computer starts.
[12:53] <Teonnyn> Whelp... time to go download the latest version.
[12:54] <Teonnyn> My version of Ubuntu is no longer supported
[12:54] <muszek> Teonnyn: why won't you dist upgrade?
[12:54] <Teonnyn> Looking at doing so
[12:55] <Teonnyn> Can you upgrade without completly wiping everything?
[12:55] <kane77> is there any gui for mounting images (iso, bin)
[12:55] <kane77> ?
[12:55] <muszek> Temporo: you can do it either manually or semi-automatically via update-manager
[12:55] <kane77> Teonnyn, what version you have? 5.10?
[12:56] <Teonnyn> um..checking
[12:56] <muszek> kane77: sudo mount -o loop path_to_image.iso path_to_mount_directory
[12:56] <Teonnyn> 5.10
[12:56] <Teonnyn> I'm kinda surprised, it was updating a couple weeks ago
[12:56] <ciro_> hi all
[12:56] <Teonnyn> Was it just put on the unsupported list?
[12:56] <muszek> kane77: don't know about .bin, but some time ago it was much harder
[12:56] <rambo3> Teonnyn,  sudo update-manager -c
[12:57] <ciro_> guys i need help to able 3D acceleration on my ubuntu
[12:57] <ciro_> who can help me pls^
[12:57] <ciro_> ?
[12:57] <muszek> Teonnyn: yeah, Ubuntu non-LTS releases are supported for 18 months.
[12:57] <rambo3> !ati | ciro_
[12:57] <ubotu> ciro_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <kane77> Teonnyn, well then you can dist upgrade, but only one version at a time... (so now you upgrade to dapper, then to edgy and then to feisty...)
[12:57] <Sergemin1> Guys, please help setting up xserver. My ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 for some reason is not supported! by my favorite Ubuntu. I did the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to change the graphics driver to VESA ... then typed "startx" command and got this:
[12:57] <Sergemin1> "X Window System Version 7.2.0   ... ... ...
[12:57] <Sergemin1> Module Loader present
[12:57] <Sergemin1> Markers: (--) problem, (EE) error, ...
[12:57] <Sergemin1> (==) Log file: /var/log/xorg.0.conf
[12:57] <Sergemin1> (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <muszek> Temporo: you'll have to do 5.10->6.06->6.10->7.04... installing from scratch might be easier
[12:57] <Sergemin1> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[12:58] <Sergemin1> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[12:58] <Sergemin1> Fatal server error:   no screens found .... ... ...  "
[12:58] <muszek> sorry, it was to Teonnyn
[12:58] <Teonnyn> Wondering why you were calling me Temporo :)
[12:58] <Teonnyn> hehe
[12:58] <muszek> Teonnyn: tab-completion :)
[12:59] <rambo3> autocmplete Teonnyn
[12:59] <alesan> sorry is there a pidgin package for ubuntu yet?
[12:59] <t2> i just installed KDE on xubuntu fiesty, and i don't see the power tab in the KDE control center... the tab which allows setting ACPI stuff . any ideas ?
[12:59] <muszek> alesan: is it any different from the latest gaim releases?
[12:59] <Sergemin1> alesan - yes
[12:59] <Sergemin1> it is @ getdeb.net
[01:00] <alesan> muszek, I have no idea, I use gaim 1.5.0 until now
[01:00] <alesan> Sergemin1, do you have more information?
[01:00] <theunixgeek> is there a shortcut to force-quit an app?
[01:00] <Sergemin1> alesan, go to www.getdeb.net and  download it. it is supeb. i am using it now
[01:00] <Teonnyn> This'll take a few hours..
[01:01] <rambo3> !xkill
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <muszek> alesan: I have 2.0.0 beta6... I think it's from repos
[01:01] <kazim59> theunixgeek: add the force kill applet to your panel
[01:01] <k1gw1> theunixgeek: ctrl+alt+escape in xfce/gnome
[01:01] <Sergemin1> Guys, please help setting up xserver. My ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 for some reason is not supported! by my favorite Ubuntu. I did the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to change the graphics driver to VESA ... then typed "startx" command and got this:
[01:01] <Sergemin1> "X Window System Version 7.2.0   ... ... ...
[01:01] <Sergemin1> Module Loader present
[01:01] <Sergemin1> Markers: (--) problem, (EE) error, ...
[01:01] <Sergemin1> (==) Log file: /var/log/xorg.0.conf
[01:01] <Teonnyn> okay..bedtime here. I'll let this run overnight
[01:01] <Sergemin1> (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:01] <Sergemin1> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[01:01] <Sergemin1> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:01] <Sergemin1> Fatal server error:   no screens found .... ... ...  "
[01:01] <k1gw1> do not not not not iuse the DEB from getdeb.net for pidgin!!!
[01:02] <rambo3> Sergemin1, more then 3 rows = flooding
[01:02] <theunixgeek> kazim59: I have the applet, but I wondered if there were a keyboard shortcut, not to exit GNOME, just to quit an app
[01:02] <muszek> Teonnyn: upgrading from 5.10 all the way to 7.04 will take more than just few hours
[01:02] <kazim59> theunixgeek: to quit the active app.. right?
[01:02] <Teonnyn> mus, I'm letting it sit overnight then gonna transfer the file over here to burn using Nero
[01:02] <kazim59> k1gw1: ctrl+alt+escp is not working...
[01:02] <theunixgeek> kazim59: yes, if it's frozen
[01:02] <k1gw1> http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/software-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/pidgin-previously-gaim-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn use this to install pidgin...even if it seems less trustworthy or whatever
[01:02] <Teonnyn> then take the CD back to the laptop and do a full install.
[01:02] <alesan> Sergemin1, but can I add the getdeb to the repositories or shall I download all the files manually?
[01:03] <Teonnyn> For now.. goodnight!
[01:03] <sahil> for some reason i cannot enable desktop effects
[01:03] <emman101> can i ask some important question. how do we enter a channel that kick us out already?
[01:03] <k1gw1> kazim59: if you can get to a terminal then type xkill...or if you can go to ctrl+alt+f1 then you can ps ax and then kill the process id
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Whenever I drag an icon to the desktop ( like Firefox ) I see the actual .desktop text file instead of the icon, and when I double click it opens in gedit ( instead of starting firefox )
[01:03] <muszek> Teonnyn: if I were you, I'd backup /home (along with anything else you might want to save, off course) and installed from scratch.  For making it more convenient, it's a good idea to devote a separate partition to /home
[01:03] <Sergemin1> ss
[01:03] <kazim59> theunixgeek: i usually click the close button of a frozen window...
[01:03] <Sergemin1> am I back online?
[01:03] <lerio> gudday everybody...i need help...how can my genius scanner colorpage vivid 3xe works on feisty
[01:03] <theunixgeek> kazim59: ok.
[01:04] <rambo3> lerio, best way is to check linux priting
[01:05] <lerio> rambo3, i cant scan on my scanner is genius supported by feisty?
[01:05] <hani> guys, how do I force an auto-detect of hardware? (preferably, only sound)
[01:05] <Jordan_U> lerio: Does xsane detect it at all?
[01:05] <lerio> no but it givs failed to open gtxx errors
[01:06] <rambo3> Sergemin1, are you trying to run X on resolution that is not supported or you are missing xserver-xorg-video-vesa
[01:06] <kane77> how do I mount data dvd disc?? (udf)
[01:06] <lerio> my network printer works fine but my scanner doesnt
[01:06] <lerio> any solutions i can get?
[01:07] <theunixgeek> are panel applets written in Java (hence the name "applet"?) :P
[01:07] <kazim59> lerio: your Colorpage Vivid 3xe works under sane
[01:07] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: I don't think so
[01:07] <kane77> theunixgeek, no afaik
[01:07] <kazim59> lerio: gt68xx backend http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=&model=vivid&bus=any&v=&p=
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Whenever I drag an icon to the desktop ( like Firefox ) I see the actual .desktop text file instead of the icon, and when I double click it opens in gedit ( instead of starting firefox ) How can I troubleshoot this?
[01:08] <lerio> ill try this link..ll be back if nothing happens
[01:08] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: try changing its default application
[01:08] <kazim59> lerio: install the sane for ubuntu
[01:08] <Sergemin1> Guys, please help setting up xserver. My ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 for some reason is not supported! by my favorite Ubuntu. I did the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to change the graphics driver to VESA ... then typed "startx" command and got this:
[01:08] <Sergemin1> from "X Window System Version 7.2.0 : (Markers: (--) problem, (EE) error, ...) :: (==) Log file: /var/log/xorg.0.conf   (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes   (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.  Fatal server error:   no screens found ..." PLEASE HELP. What is that I ned to change?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: To what?
[01:08] <kazim59> lerio: then detect your scanner
[01:08] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: hold on a bit....
[01:08] <kazim59> !sane
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <lerio> kazim59, where can i find sane
[01:09] <rambo3> !info xsane
[01:09] <ubotu> xsane: GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component main, is optional. Version 0.99+0.991-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 280 kB, installed size 780 kB
[01:09] <kazim59> lerio: sudo apt-get install xsane
[01:09] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: go to System>Preferences>Preferred Applications. Is firefox set as your default browser?
[01:09] <kane77> i made some changes to /etc/fstab, how do I apply them??
[01:10] <Paradox> Hi, which/what GUI/app can I use to play mp3 ?
[01:10] <theunixgeek> Paradox:  Totem movie player
[01:10] <Sergemin1> alesan, if I remeber it correctly they have a repo and there sould be details how to connect it
[01:10] <theunixgeek> Paradox: you might need to install some codecs, though
[01:10] <lerio> kazim59, ya ive got the newwest version
[01:10] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: I was just using firefox as an example, it does this for any .desktop file ( which should be a shortcut / launcher )
[01:10] <Paradox> theunixgeek: shall I install the codecs first? or would totem do it automatically?
[01:10] <kazim59> lerio: its already installed on feisty i think... Applications -> Graphics -> XSane Image Scanner
[01:10] <theunixgeek> Paradox: if you open up the mp3 in it, it should do it automatically
[01:11] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: right click and go to "open with other application...."
[01:11] <Paradox> ok great, now... can I use apt-get for totem?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: And choose what?
[01:11] <theunixgeek> Paradox, it should be preinstalled
[01:11] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: the app you want to open it with ;)
[01:11] <Paradox> ok, let me see
[01:11] <theunixgeek> Applications>Sound & Video> Movie Player
[01:12] <lerio> kazim59, heres what the error says: failed to open device gt68xx:libusb:001:003:invalid argument
[01:12] <Paradox> thing is, I havent upgraded to feisty just yet... so I cant find any preinstalls for it
[01:12] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: Look up what a .desktop file is, you don't understand my problem, it is not supposed to be shown as a text file, it is supposed to be an application launcher :)
[01:12] <Paradox> brb
[01:12] <kazim59> lerio: nice error
[01:13] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: oh, i see what's going on now... i'm sorry, i misunderstood. i thought you meant that a link to a file wouldn't open in its proper app.
[01:13] <theunixgeek> Jordan_U: i'm sorry, i can't help.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> theunixgeek: No problem, I worded my question poorly :)
[01:13] <illriginal>  is there a gimp channel?
[01:14] <CharminTheMoose> Jordan_U, chmod it?
[01:14] <theunixgeek> illriginal: u could try #gimp ;)
[01:14] <illriginal> :p
[01:14] <illriginal> there is
[01:14] <Jordan_U> CharminTheMoose: +x ? Is a .desktop file considered an executable file?
[01:15] <CharminTheMoose> Jordan_U, why wouldn't be?
[01:15] <CharminTheMoose> *wouldn't it
[01:15] <heroin> how do i find the PID of vlc?
[01:15] <heroin> i need to kill / end VLC
[01:15] <Jordan_U> CharminTheMoose: Ok, trying...
[01:15] <kazim59> lerio: ls usr/share/sane/gt68xx/
[01:15] <CharminTheMoose> heroin, use 'ps -aux | grep vlc'
[01:16] <lerio> no such file or directories
[01:16] <Jordan_U> CharminTheMoose: No difference, should I try logging in again?
[01:16] <heroin> CharminTheMoose: thx
[01:17] <CharminTheMoose> Jordan_U, no. compare the contents of the .desktop file to other ones
[01:17] <kazim59> lerio: you need firmware file
[01:17] <CharminTheMoose> maybe there's something missing from it
[01:17] <Jordan_U> CharminTheMoose: None work
[01:17] <lerio> kazim59, ya i now load the cd install of genius
[01:17] <lerio> where will i put the firmware
[01:17] <kazim59> lerio: ya right... the file is ccd548.fw
[01:18] <kazim59> lerio: this file (ccd548.fw) has to be put in /usr/share/sane/gt68xx (make the directory if it doesn't exist)
[01:19] <kazim59> lerio: search for the file in the driver cd
[01:19] <lerio> still searching....
[01:21] <kazim59> lerio: maybe in the WinXP directory inside cd?
[01:21] <bronze-> what video output driver should I use for MPlayer? It crashes every time I try to run a video file.
[01:21] <kazim59> bronze-: try running mplayer as root
[01:21] <lerio> ill try
[01:21] <nuked_omen> what is the difference between firefox and mozilla?
[01:22] <lerio> i hav downloaded it from the web then where will i put this file
[01:23] <bronze-> kazim59, how do I run mplayer from terminal?
[01:23] <ianian> does anyone know how i can get limewire on fiesty??
[01:23] <kazim59> bronze-: sudo mplayer path/to/some/videofile
[01:23] <ianian> when i get it off limewire website installation doesnt work
[01:24] <Jordan_U> kazim59: Why sudo?
[01:24] <ianian> well, limewire doesnt open up#
[01:24] <kazim59> lerio: good... now you need to put this file in /usr/share/sane/gt68xx
[01:24] <Azul> why would one want to run mplayer with sudo?
[01:24] <goooodgirl> I want to install ubuntu for a friend who speaks Thai, but I don't .. if I select English during installation, can I later switch the language to Thai? And I don't mean just the input language or keyboard layout, but the entire OS ?
[01:24] <lerio> kazim59, how can i have permission to write this in the folder sane
[01:24] <Jordan_U> !frostwire | ianian
[01:24] <ubotu> ianian: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:25] <kazim59> lerio: sudo cp ccd548.fw /usr/share/sane/gt68xx/
[01:25] <Azul> limewire sucks
[01:25] <kazim59> lerio: from a terminal
[01:25] <ianian> thanks
[01:25] <bronze-> kazim59, how do I handle files with a space in them?
[01:25] <lerio> ya i did cp: cannot stat `ccd548.fw': No such file or directory
[01:26] <Jordan_U> bronze-: escape the space with a \ like "file\ with\ spaces"
[01:26] <kazim59> bronze-: press TAB key as you type the path.. it will autocomplete
[01:27] <kazim59> lerio: copy the firmware files that you downloaded to /usr/share/sane/gt68xx
[01:27] <lerio> ok
[01:27] <carrascoramirez> hola que tal
[01:27] <carrascoramirez> hola  hola
[01:28] <bronze-> kazim59, Ok, it worked this way, but is there a solution so I don't have to use the terminal every time?
[01:28] <sandhya> Hi. How do I get linux to run fsck upon reboot?
[01:28] <sandhya> I have tried running "shutdown -rF now" to run "fsck" upon reboot.. but that does not seem to be working.
[01:28] <lerio> shoud i be a root?
[01:28] <kazim59> Jordan_U: I don't know why but mplayer on my system runs as root only... otherwise it asks for video output device
[01:28] <hatter> what can i use to display a nice ram graph like the processor usage graph in the taskbar ?
[01:28] <kazim59> bronze-: it works this way for me... i still don't know why it doesn't run as a normal user
[01:29] <per> Hey i currently have debian on my system. I would like to change it to ubuntu. Currently i dont have any cd's lying around. I do not intend erasing the harddisk which my home dir is mounted on can i install from my home dir and format everything else instead of booting from a cd ?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> kazim59: Then you need to find the correct parameter for mplayer, running as root is probably a bad idea
[01:29] <lerio> kazim59, i found the directory but maybe i need to run as root how can i do that
[01:29] <troopperi> hatter: do you have installed gdesklets (if u use gnome)
[01:30] <kazim59> Jordan_U: you are absolutely right...
[01:30] <hatter> troopperi, ah, i will look at these, thx
[01:30] <kazim59> lerio: in the terminal type sudo nautilus /usr/share/sane/gt68xx
[01:31] <troopperi> hatter, np
[01:31] <kazim59> lerio: now you can copy the files graphically
[01:31] <bronze-> kazim59, just got it working the "normal way" by selecting the gl2 vo driver
[01:31] <Sergemine> Guys, I have no luck getting x to work. :-( ! I tyed both ATI and VESA drivers, but X doesn't start. It is a wide sceen Samsung R40 notebook that I use. I guess it has to do with screen resolution, or the other screen things... Does anyone have an idea what to do to set the right resolution? PLEASE
[01:31] <kazim59> Jordan_U: mplayer says "Error initializing video out driver"
[01:31] <kazim59> bronze-: where did you select it?
[01:31] <lerio> whew you did it
[01:31] <lerio> then whats next
[01:31] <bronze-> kazim59, preferences -> video
[01:31] <kazim59> bronze-: thanks!
[01:32] <bronze-> kazim59, tell me if it works
[01:32] <per> So can anyone tell me if it would work mounting the ubuntu iso in my debian and it install it from there or will I have to boot from a real cd ?
[01:32] <kazim59> lerio: now connect your scanner, and Applications -> Graphics -> Xsane
[01:32] <Sergemine> Can someone hrlp with graphics?
[01:32] <sahil> for some reason Desktop Effects wont start and so i cant even use beryl
[01:33] <lerio> yaaaah..your the man....now i can use my scanner thanks very many much man
[01:33] <Jordan_U> per Can you be more specific? Are you trying to install on a removable drive? A virtual Machine? Over your current Debian install?
[01:34] <Sergemine> Need help setting resolution for my lattop's wide screen!
[01:34] <lerio> kazim59, is that how to run as root? ..sudo nautilus?
[01:34] <CheshireViking> !install
[01:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:34] <kazim59> bronze-: its playing the movie in an awkward fashion!
[01:34] <kazim59> lerio: thats not a good habit actually
[01:34] <kazim59> lerio: to run any command as root, prefix 'sudo' to that command
[01:34] <per> Jordan_U I have debian now. I have a 10gb partition for the system 2gb for swap and rest is mountd is a partition as well. Can i just start the ubuntu isowhen running debian and install it while running debian or will i have to get a real cd and burn it into
[01:34] <bronze-> kazim59, you might wanna try another driver, then? I think it's kinda dependent on your setup, but gl2 worked for me.
[01:35] <eifzon> Why do i get this wrong message when i am trying to set up dualview?
[01:35] <eifzon> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: 1280x1024 @1280x1024 +0+0, CRT-1: 1280x1024 @1280x1024 +1280+0' (Mode 2560x1024, id: 50) on X screen 0.
[01:35] <lerio> well it works great ,well tnx very much see ya around
[01:35] <Jordan_U> per No, you need to burn a CD
[01:35] <hatter> does anyone know how i can stop the default behaviour of gnome to open a new window in the centre of the screen ?
[01:35] <ianian> hey guys...i downloaded frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:35] <Sergemine> Guys, need help setting screen resolution
[01:35] <ianian> any tips?
[01:35] <per> ok Jordan_U, thank you
[01:35] <hatter> soooooo annoying on a dual head monitor
[01:36] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: What GFX card?
[01:36] <Sergemine> Jordan_U, ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
[01:36] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[01:37] <Sergemine> Jordan_U, but Ix doestn't start
[01:37] <emman101> can i ask some important question. how do we enter a channel that kick us out already?
[01:37] <Sergemine> Jordan_U, no GUI
[01:37] <kazim59> lerio: the scanner.. did it work?
[01:37] <ianian> i downloaded frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:37] <flash> hey
[01:37] <TheGateKeeper> how do I find the version number of cups?
[01:37] <flash> i'm new here
[01:37] <sc9ttt> how do i install ubuntu with KDE as the GUI
[01:37] <flash> can some one help me whit ubuntu
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" choose "fglrx" when asked for a driver
[01:37] <TheGateKeeper> sc9ttt: install kubuntu
[01:38] <ianian> any1?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> flash: Just ask your question, if someone can help they will :)
[01:38] <flash> how do i get a menseger
[01:38] <Sergemine> Jordan_U it says: (==) Log file: /var/log/xorg.0.conf
[01:38] <Sergemine> (==) Using config file:/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <Sergemine> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[01:38] <Sergemine> (EE)Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:38] <Sergemine> Fatalserver error: no screens found .... ... ... "
[01:38] <iphv37> good morning everyone!!
[01:38] <kazim59> bronze-: so... xv worked
[01:38] <iphv37> xD
[01:38] <Sergemine> Jordan_U, fglrx ?
[01:38] <sc9ttt> TheGateKeeper is that on the DVD iso?
[01:38] <lerio> ya it really works..well i hope sooner the scanner wount be too technical to setup
[01:38] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: Yes
[01:38] <flash> can some one tell me a place where can i get a menseger for ubuntu
[01:38] <ianian> i downloaded frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:38] <ianian> heloooo
[01:38] <Sergemine> Jordan_U is it for ATI ?
[01:39] <troopperi> flash: amsn
[01:39] <iphv37> flash: sudo apt-get install amsn
[01:39] <flash> ty
[01:39] <Jordan_U> flash: Like aim? Use Gaim, it comes with Ubuntu
[01:39] <flash> man
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: Yes
[01:39] <flash> i cant use gaim idk why it blocks
[01:39] <TheGateKeeper> sc9ttt: idk go to the kubuntu web site & download it from there
[01:39] <Sergemine> Jordan_U, thank you very much
[01:39] <sc9ttt> ohhh i downloaded the wrong iso then :( thx man
[01:39] <kazim59> lerio: i meant to say .. did the scanner worked using xsane?
[01:39] <ianian> i downloaded frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:40] <hatter> troopperi, have you used the weather gdesklet ?  it doesnt seem to find any cities
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Sergemine: np, you now need to restart X with: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:40] <lerio> ya it did
[01:40] <TheGateKeeper> sc9ttt: you are welcome
[01:40] <kazim59> flash: use pidgin
[01:41] <flash> como
[01:41] <flash> e ke eu nao konheco nada disto
[01:41] <emman101> i have created a bash program that can multiply thousand bash files and commands in a network in a certain period of time all i need is a php interface for web access.. anyone who wants to join the team?
[01:41] <ianian> i downloaded + installed frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:41] <Jordan_U> !repeat | ianian
[01:41] <ubotu> ianian: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:41] <flash> i dont know notinhg about ubuntu
[01:41] <flash> can some one get me the web site were oi get the pack for amsn
[01:42] <flash> *i
[01:42] <Jordan_U> flash: Install it from Applications -> Add / Remove
[01:42] <TheGateKeeper> how do I find the version number of cups?
[01:42] <flash> i cant
[01:42] <flash> it gives me an enrror
[01:42] <Jordan_U> flash: Can you pastebin the error?
[01:42] <flash> ok
[01:42] <flash> whayt a min
[01:43] <flash> its in portugese
[01:43] <lerio> thanks guys for the time gonna go kazim59
[01:43] <flash> but i can translate it
[01:44] <kazim59> lerio: np
[01:45] <flash> it ben not possible to download all  the reposetory indics
[01:45] <flash> i dont know if its well translated
[01:45] <flash> its like this in portugese
[01:45] <ianian> i downloaded + installed frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:45] <jima21742> Good Morning :-)
[01:45] <iphv37> flash, s portugues?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> flash: Are you connected to the internet? ( I understood the error )
[01:46] <flash> nao foi possivel descarregar todo os indives de repositorios
[01:46] <flash> jordan_u yes
[01:46] <iphv37> flash, pvt!
[01:46] <flash> iphv37 sou
[01:46] <thux> Hi, got strange problem with feisty. I can connect internet but can't connect to my router with firefox (192.168.1.1) any guess what could be wrong?
[01:47] <flash> can u help me
[01:47] <jima21742> Any advice on how to keep my internet connection alive? It seems I have to right click on the networking icon and connect each time I boot up.
[01:47] <Jordan_U> flash: May be that your local mirror for Ubuntu packages is down, try changing it in System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[01:47] <flash> jordan_u can u help me
[01:47] <flash> ok
[01:47] <flash> ty
[01:48] <ianian> any1 know bout installing stuff???????
[01:48] <iphv37> flash, era o k te estava a tentar dizer no pvt!
[01:49] <flash> hey jordan_U my ubuntu version is 5.10
[01:49] <iphv37> ianian, just ask!
[01:49] <ianian> yh
[01:49] <ianian> i downloaded + installed frostwire and tried installing it but no luck....doesnt open when i click on it!!
[01:49] <Jordan_U> flash: That is why then, 5.10 is no longer supported :(
[01:49] <ianian> gerin no answers
[01:49] <flash> lol
[01:50] <flash> i will se if i can get a new version
[01:50] <Jordan_U> flash: They will ship it for free, but it might take a while that way :)
[01:50] <flash> how much dais
[01:51] <flash> +/-
[01:51] <Jordan_U> flash: Mine took a few weeks :(
[01:51] <flash> :(
[01:51] <flash> ok
[01:51] <flash> ty
[01:51] <iphv37> flash, keres k te envie?
[01:52] <iphv37> flash, i make u a copy of the desire version and send to u!
[01:52] <flash> tas on
[01:52] <flash> iphv37 ond moras
[01:52] <iphv37> flash, it may spend only 2 days!
[01:52] <flash> iphv37 fala em pt
[01:52] <iphv37> flash, aveiro!
[01:52] <Myrtti> !pt | iphv37 flash
[01:52] <ubotu> iphv37 flash: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:53] <iphv37> myrtti, it's ok! thx
[01:53] <flash> iphv37 ta fixe olha so uma cena sera k nas lojas de informatika ha???
[01:53] <iphv37> flash, raramente consigo encontrar algo nas lojas!
[01:53] <Myrtti> iphv37: either way, please use English here :-)
[01:54] <iphv37> myrtti, ok! sorry..
[01:54] <iphv37> flash, they just do what will do too!
[01:55] <iphv37> flash, they download the os and burn it!
[01:56] <jorik808> how do i find out what my java version is ?
[01:56] <iphv37> err...
[01:56] <Myrtti> !away | jsk
[01:56] <Skiessi> java runtime?
[01:56] <ubotu> jsk: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[01:56] <Tremitos> Hi
[01:57] <iphv37> tremitos, hi!
[01:57] <Skiessi> jorik808: if you have the plugin: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[01:58] <kazim59> /back
[01:58] <Skiessi> hmm
[01:58] <t94xr> anyone with knowledge of bittorrent-curse?
[01:59] <jorik808> oh i have 1.6.0 instead of 1.6.1. should i download and install the package from that website ? i heard it's a bad idea to install software without using apt
[01:59] <ham1979> Hello
[01:59] <ham1979> I have just upgraded from Breezy badger to dapper
[01:59] <ham1979> My emails have stopped working
[02:00] <iphv37> ham1979, what program do u use to manage ur emails?
[02:00] <jorik808> Skiessi: ping :)
[02:00] <jscinoz> What was the line in xorg.conf to not show the nvidia driver splashscreen?
[02:00] <BlendArt> Hello
[02:00] <BlendArt> What movie player can load .jsp movie files?
[02:00] <Skiessi> yeah you can install it from the website
[02:00] <jorik808> ok. thank you for your time
[02:00] <ham1979> postfix
[02:01] <ham1979> its qmgr delivery suspended
[02:01] <iphv37> ham1979, try to install it again!
[02:02] <anavazquez> a3l7a5
[02:02] <iphv37> ham1979, do not remove it! just install..
[02:03] <iphv37> ham1979, the same thing happens with mozilla thunderbird anytime i upgrade the ubuntu...
[02:03] <jscinoz> What was the line in xorg.conf to not show the nvidia driver splashscreen?
[02:04] <lofidellity> im having a problem with videos in ubuntu, they seem to start to play (i dont see video but the progress bar moves) but then whichever program i am using closes, does not produce an error report
[02:06] <Skiessi> lofidellity: do they leave any messages in the terminal/console?
[02:06] <lofidellity> Skiessi:  ive never started the from the terminal
[02:06] <lofidellity> ill try
[02:07] <jscinoz> What was the line in xorg.conf to not show the nvidia driver splashscreen?
[02:07] <lofidellity> hmmm that almost seems self explainatory thanks
[02:07] <k1gw1> jscinoz: nologo "true", i believe
[02:07] <jscinoz> cheers
[02:08] <cotyrothery> hello
[02:08] <bastardo> hi there - after switching the network adapter my nfs shares all time out immediately after mount. It works on the old adapter, doesn't with the new. exactly the same config. ping etc. all go through. Can a driver issue be the cause?
[02:08] <jscinoz> enabling NVagp usually equals large fps boost right?
[02:09] <iphv37> how do i install fluidsynth from the terminal?
[02:10] <Talaturen> iphv37, rm -rf /*;get-install fluidsynth
[02:10] <bastardo> I wouldn't do that iphv37
[02:10] <Skiessi> iphv37: "sudo apt-get install fluidsynth"
[02:10] <bastardo> maybe sudo apt-get update before
[02:11] <iphv37> i tried sudo apt-get install fluidsynth
[02:11] <iphv37> only this!
[02:11] <warnet> hiiii
[02:11] <Skiessi> o.o
[02:11] <warnet> can you help me
[02:11] <kazim59> That should've been sudo rm -rf /* ... right?
[02:11] <lofidellity> Skiessi: the error i get is----  X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[02:11] <iphv37> but it seems that is installed and is not available!
[02:11] <iphv37> *available to use from programs menu!
[02:12] <ham1979>  I have just upgraded from breezy badger to dapper and my postfix/mailmain/amavis /clamav server has stopped delivering mail
 in the log there is postfix/qmgr delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] :
[02:12] <jscinoz> is there any way to get a X-Fi card working under linux?
[02:12] <jscinoz> or are creative still being douchebags?
[02:12] <iphv37> how do i start it? "fluidsynth" in terminal?
[02:12] <Skiessi> usually
[02:13] <Soth> jscinoz: they are supposed to be releasing a driver for those cards sometime this year
[02:13] <iphv37> must it open a window, right?
[02:13] <jscinoz> >_< is there even a basic driver available now?
[02:13] <jscinoz> or am i completely without sound
[02:13] <Skiessi> jscinoz try asking in #alsa
[02:13] <jscinoz> thanks
[02:13] <Soth> jscinoz: dunno... i think some people have gotten basic functionality out of an oss driver
[02:14] <Soth> maybe alsa too
[02:14] <jscinoz> ok thanks
[02:14] <lofidellity> how do i fix this error-----  X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[02:15] <diablo_vortex> hi guys need help,, my x server or startx can not find the mouse device file,, i could not find it either,,how can i find it
[02:15] <iphv37> skiessi, look pvt pls!
[02:17] <cotyrothery> if i set wow to use opengl will the gfx look better
[02:17] <Skiessi> don't you get my messages?
[02:17] <zues_62> hey guys i was wondering if someone would be able to help me on something i want to convert AVI movies so they will play on a standard dvd player how can i do this
[02:17] <Sergemine> My laptop sceen symply doesn't work with Ubuntu!
[02:17] <jonaz> my / dir run out of space, but /home as enough. howto repartition??
[02:17] <iphv37> skiessi, nope!
[02:17] <Skiessi> cotyrothery I'm not sure but I think there's some fps boost
[02:17] <diablo_vortex>  hi guys need help,, my x server or startx can not find the mouse device file,, i could not find it either,,how can i find it
[02:18] <iphv37> skiessi, are u identified?
[02:18] <zues_62> Sergemine: what type laptop u got
[02:18] <cotyrothery> Skiessi: how do i set it to openGL
[02:18] <theunixgeek> how can i type an upside-down circumflex ( ^) in ubuntu
[02:18] <zues_62> Sergemine:  it never used to work with mine with the screen it does now
[02:18] <tbtroja> diablo_vortex, we read your question the first time, no need to repost it
[02:18] <jonaz> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:18] <jonaz> /dev/md1              950M  950M     0 100% //dev/md7              221G  595M  221G   1% /home
[02:18] <jonaz> need to resize my partitions
[02:19] <Tomasz_svk> hi, please how to configure MySQL server @Ubuntu Server to connect from another server??
[02:19] <Sergemine> zues_62, it is Samsung R40 and ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 on board
[02:19] <Skiessi> theres a conf file in the WTF folder
[02:19] <zues_62> how can i convert avi to a format that a standalone dvd player can play
[02:19] <Sergemine> zues_62 it is probably the sceen that isthe problem
[02:19] <zues_62> Sergemine:  hmmmm sorry im not honestly sure but it should work aye
[02:19] <mat1980> zeus_62: have you tried avidemux
[02:19] <jonaz> howto resize partitions?
[02:20] <Tomasz_svk> hi, please how to configure MySQL server @Ubuntu Server to connect from another server??
[02:20] <zues_62> Sergemine:  no its the way x works it trys to boot to an external monitor
[02:20] <theunixgeek> how can i type an upside-down circumflex ( ^) in ubuntu?
[02:20] <zues_62> mat1980:  no ill give it a go aye is it free?
[02:20] <zues_62> Sergemine:  have u got a external monitor?
[02:20] <theunixgeek> zues_62: yes
[02:20] <Sergemine> zues_62 no
[02:20] <iphv37> skiessi, can u help me?
[02:21] <zues_62> Sergemine:  oh that is a problem
[02:21] <Tomasz_svk> hi, please how to configure MySQL server @Ubuntu Server to connect from another server??
[02:21] <Skiessi> iphv37: not this time :(
[02:21] <theunixgeek> !server
[02:21] <mat1980> yes, it is. But it can maybe you'll need some non-free codecs.
[02:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:21] <theunixgeek> !server | Tomasz_svk
[02:21] <ubotu> Tomasz_svk: please see above
[02:21] <Sergemine> zues_62 when I gpkg-reconfigure it with VESA orATI it still doesn't work
[02:21] <Sabe> good day. I'm having a lot of trouble getting my 2 monitors to work with my 2 video cards, can someone please help me?
[02:22] <zues_62> u goto do a switch thingy
[02:22] <theunixgeek> how can i type an upside-down circumflex ( ^) in ubuntu
[02:22] <iphv37> skiessi, but to u know where i can go to get help in this case?
[02:22] <jonaz> how can i resize my partitions?
[02:22] <zues_62> Sergemine:  you have to do a switch thing i dont wan2 say anything incase i am wrong but i used to have to do it
[02:22] <theunixgeek> jonaz: use GParted
[02:22] <theunixgeek> how can i type an upside-down circumflex ( ^) in ubuntu
[02:22] <Sabe> V
[02:23] <theunixgeek> if you have any idea, please help
[02:23] <jonaz> i have neither more space to apt-get install nor kde
[02:23] <jonaz> only console
[02:23] <theunixgeek> Sabe: i mean, on top of a letter
[02:23] <theunixgeek> ;)
[02:23] <hypn0> Sabe: you mean v surely :-))
[02:23] <tbtroja> jonaz, a simple Wiki search gives results, try there next time -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[02:23] <Sabe> oh ;D sorry, I don't know
[02:23] <theunixgeek> Sabe: its ok
[02:23] <Sabe> hypn0: hehe
[02:23] <tbtroja> jonaz, read the entire page before doing anything please..
[02:24] <theunixgeek> how can i type an upside-down circumflex ( ^) in ubuntu (on top of a letter ;) )?
[02:24] <Tomasz_svk> ubotu: where? please :D ... Ubuntu 7.04 Server. I have installed MySQL server there. But if i want to connect there throught PHPMyAdmin at another server, i write Error: #1130 - Host 'support11.cust.nextra.sk' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[02:25] <Sabe> please, folks - I really need to get this working if I'm to switch to Linux here at work. I read a lot but none of the solutions worked so far.
[02:25] <tbtroja> Tomasz_svk, see the BOT part of uBOTu?
[02:25] <theunixgeek> Tomaz_svk: Ubotu is a robot
[02:25] <KomiaPoika> whats package to install to have GLIB 1.2.3 or higher?
[02:25] <mat1980> Sabe: what's your problem? can you explain it again?
[02:25] <theunixgeek> Tomaz_svk: use #ubuntu-server if you need help with server issues
[02:25] <Tomasz_svk> tbtroja: ok thanx
[02:26] <tbtroja> This place is hectic in the morning..
[02:26] <hypn0> theunixgeek: can't you find the character in charcter map program :-/ and paste it
[02:26] <Sabe> mat1980: I need to get my 2 monitors to work with my 2 video cards
[02:26] <theunixgeek> hypn0: i forgot about that! thanks! :)
[02:26] <Skiessi> Sabe: try asking in #xorg :D
[02:26] <Sabe> yay ;D, thanks, Skiessi
[02:26] <Sergemin2> zues_62 are you saying that if I connect an external screen to my laptop it might work ???
[02:27] <marfeath> Is there a way in bash scripting to use "continue" like you can in c?  If not is there any way to go back to the beginning of a while loop?
[02:28] <Sergemin2> zues_62 i'm back here. RU ?
[02:29] <`ph8> hi guys
[02:29] <`ph8> my mouse has just stopped working
[02:29] <`ph8> i've alt-tabbed my way over here
[02:29] <tbtroja> jonaz, have you gotten your partitioning working?
[02:29] <`ph8> any ideas on a debug?
[02:29] <KomiaPoika> i'm trying to compile gftp with ssl support, but i get: configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher
[02:29] <tbtroja> `ph8, have you made sure the mouse settings in xorg.conf are correct, and that it's still plugged in?
[02:30] <dragonmc> hey guys, could someone recommend the best linux binary newsgroup reader for newsgroup newbie types?
[02:30] <`ph8> it works for hours
[02:30] <`ph8> and this has happened before
[02:30] <`ph8> just stops working
[02:30] <`ph8> it is still plugged in, i've also tried reconnecting it
[02:30] <mat1980> dragonmc: knode
[02:30] <`ph8> is there meant to be a process running to manage the mouse?
[02:30] <Skiessi> KomiaPoika: try using "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev"
[02:31] <chadeldridge> good morning all
[02:31] <dragonmc> mat1980: knode sounds like a kde app...if it is, will it work in gnome?
[02:31] <tbtroja> `ph8, um, is it an old mouse..?  My old mouse used to start going berserk after a while for no explainable reason, but I got a new one and it works fine.
[02:31] <KomiaPoika> Skiessi: thanks
[02:32] <chadeldridge> Is it possible to start an application (say Pidgin) and automatically force it to the second desktop ?
[02:32] <`ph8> erm
[02:32] <`ph8> it's about a year and a half old, a dell usb optical
[02:32] <KomiaPoika> now i get this build error: gftp-2.0.18/src/text/gftp-text.c:188: undefined reference to `g_locale_from_utf8'  what can i install?
[02:32] <KomiaPoika> chadeldridge: yes
[02:32] <KomiaPoika> chadeldridge: in kde
[02:32] <tbtroja> dragonmc, if it's for Linux, it will work in any environment -- it should at least -- yes, knode will work in GNOME but it might not be working 'the best' (might start slower, etc.)
[02:32] <chadeldridge> komiaPoika:  using gnome here though
[02:33] <KomiaPoika> kde restores it where it was and auto logins if you were logged
[02:33] <jscinoz> hey guys, im running ubuntu 7.04, in the network manager applet if i try to connect to my network i dont have WPA as an option, what should i do?
[02:33] <chadeldridge> what about gnome .. is there a way to tell it to save where everything is currently on the desktop ?
[02:33] <cwillu> jscinoz: join a network manually,
[02:33] <line72> chadeldridge: devile's pie
[02:34] <jscinoz> even then i dont have a WPA option
[02:34] <cwillu> jscinoz: type in the name of the network, and you can pick wpa
[02:34] <jscinoz> this doesnt happen on my laptop
[02:34] <cwillu> ':/
[02:34] <jscinoz> I only have wep options
[02:34] <line72> chadeldridge: devil's pie (http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie) will let you do that
[02:34] <cwillu> jscinoz: I don't mean through the network control panel
[02:34] <chadeldridge> Great .. thank you very much
[02:34] <cwillu> jcmcbeth: i.e., not configure manually, but join another network
[02:35] <jscinoz> >_< but on my other compy i have WPA through network manager
[02:35] <chadeldridge> will there be an issue since i am using beryl ?
[02:35] <jscinoz> and i'd  really rather not go back to doing it through console/terminal
[02:35] <cwillu> jscinoz: wpasupplicant might not support your wireless card then;  I'm not too familiar beyond that, so keep asking around :p
[02:35] <KEL> guys, what would i be able to run on something like P 486 with 32mb ram? (Distro i mean) :D
[02:35] <jscinoz> ok thanks
[02:35] <cwillu> KEL:  freedos?  :p
[02:35] <ln-> OS/2
[02:36] <jscinoz> the card is based on an rt61
[02:36] <jscinoz> if that helps
[02:36] <KEL> and HD 160mb -.-
[02:36] <KEL> cwillu: hmm -.-
[02:36] <cwillu> jscinoz: try googling it and wpasupplicant
[02:36] <mat1980> dragonmc: knode will work fine on gnome. I use it without problems. It only takes few seconds more to start. My second choise is pan, that is a gtk program.
[02:36] <cwillu> KEL, I'm pretty sure there's some small linux varieties as well (dsl?)
[02:36] <jscinoz> ok thanks
[02:36] <cwillu> (dsl=damn small linux that is)
[02:37] <LordLimecat> im having trouble gaining ownership of a folder mounted on an external drive, chown gives "operation not permitted"....
[02:37] <LordLimecat> and i also have only like 10 mins
[02:37] <Tomasz_svk> is special only mysql support channel?
[02:37] <cwillu> LordLimecat: sudo chown or just chown?
[02:37] <LordLimecat> sudo chown limecat /media/2ndhome/torrents
[02:37] <cwillu> LordLimecat: what file system?
[02:37] <LordLimecat> 2ndhome being the mountpoint
[02:37] <LordLimecat> fat32
[02:37] <LordLimecat> it IS mounted RW--i can sudo mv files to it
[02:37] <KEL> cwullu: okay, i also tough it was oke about DSL, cuz i dont think Xubuntu or so will run on it, and .. euhm, dont u think Debian woumd make it?:)
[02:37] <LordLimecat> but each one complains about setting permissions
[02:37] <mat1980> KEL: DamnSmallLinux. Surely Ubuntu will not start.
[02:37] <LordLimecat> theyre all owned by root
[02:38] <cwillu> LordLimecat: k, need to mess with the mount line, fat doesn't support the concept of ownership
[02:38] <cwillu> KEL;  not out of the box :)
[02:38] <KomiaPoika> how can i install gftp with ssl support
[02:38] <cwillu> LordLimecat: one sec
[02:38] <LordLimecat> ....but i cant create new files there
[02:38] <LordLimecat> ok
[02:38] <cwillu> LordLimecat: fstab or sudo mount?
[02:38] <Tomasz_svk> is special only mysql support channel?
[02:38] <LordLimecat> cwillu: sudo mount
[02:39] <KEL> mat: the first idea that i had was DSL, but mb just Debian?:) ... altough, with what? Fluxbox? euhm, then its same dsl heh :)
[02:39] <LordLimecat> and i really think i did it wrong, i came back this morning and all the data didnt go onto the drive, so my / filled up
[02:39] <chadeldridge> Is there a way using Beryl to save all my windows current positions ... seems that software you recomend is for metacity ?
[02:39] <cwillu> LordLimecat: easiest way is to remount it (-o remount, or umount and mount again) with "-o uid=<your user name>"
[02:39] <Tomasz_svk> is special only mysql support channel?
[02:39] <mat1980> Tomasz_svk: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/irc.html
[02:39] <LordLimecat> sudo mount -o remount?
[02:39] <Tomasz_svk> thank you
[02:39] <KEL> only a lilbit cleaner, without DSL's configs
[02:40] <cwillu> LordLimecat: sudo mount /media/2ndhome -o remount,uid=LordLimecat
[02:40] <LordLimecat> ah
[02:40] <KEL> hmm, anyone some info on creating linux/debian/dsl boot floppy?
[02:41] <cwillu> KEL:  you're gonna have to get comfortable with some stripped down window manager, assuming that you even run x :)
[02:41] <LordLimecat> cwillu: yea that did it :D thanks man
[02:41] <cwillu> KEL should be able to find premade images, just copy them to the floppy device
[02:41] <KEL> cwillu: fluxbox is oke i guess
[02:41] <cwillu> LordLimecat: sweet :)
[02:41] <cwillu> KEL:  it's all about the programs you run on top of it, really
[02:41] <KEL> cwillu: ah so, just copy, oke ty :)
[02:42] <cwillu> KEL, well, cat or dd
[02:42] <cwillu> KEL, cp won't do what you want
[02:42] <cwillu> KEL:  dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fda should do the trick, I think
[02:42] <LordLimecat> cwillu: theres one last glitch, but it may not matter
[02:42] <cwillu> LordLimecat: which?
[02:43] <goban> can i watch blu-ray crippled disks on ubuntu>?
[02:43] <KEL> cwillu: okay, gotta boot and ill c :)
[02:43] <LordLimecat> the full path to my torrents is /media/2ndhome/secondhome/torrents.... that "secondhome" directory was a messup from when i THOUHGT i had mounted it...
[02:43] <cwillu> KEL, could download qemu and play that way
[02:43] <LordLimecat> i want to move all files back to the root mount point, but i cant
[02:43] <LordLimecat> i dont have write to /media/2ndhome, only to /media/2ndhome/secondhome
[02:43] <cwillu> qemu -fda floppy.img -m 32 would let you test/play a little easier
[02:44] <LordLimecat> cant sudo mv either
[02:44] <cwillu> LordLimecat: weird
[02:44] <LordLimecat> yea :(
[02:44] <cwillu> LordLimecat: what are the permissions showing?
[02:45] <LordLimecat> one sec
[02:45] <LordLimecat> also, i sudo mv'd the torrent files themselves....theyve ceased to exist
[02:45] <harken> i need help with madwifidriver in dapper drake, don't know how to tackel this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479385
[02:45] <cwillu> LordLimecat: unmount it and remount it again by hand, almost sounds like you're mounting the device in /media/2ndhome/secondhome
[02:45] <cwillu> (you said you copied stuff into /media/2ndhome by accident?)
[02:46] <LordLimecat> cwillu: it does, but....
[02:46] <LordLimecat> /dev/sdb1 on /media/2ndhome type vfat (rw,uid=1000)
[02:47] <LordLimecat> cwillu: chown chmod did it :|
[02:48] <LordLimecat> even though i was shown as owner
[02:48] <LordLimecat> my .torrent files are still gone tho, wonder where they got moved to
[02:48] <cwillu> LordLimecat: try unmounting it and see if they appear
[02:49] <LordLimecat> cwillu: nope :| no biggie, ill just re-dl em, theyre only 1kb each
[02:50] <LordLimecat> but thats worrysome that they can just vanish
[02:50] <cwillu> LordLimecat: do you still have the command you used?
[02:50] <LordLimecat> cwillu: one sec
[02:51] <LordLimecat> oh im a retard
[02:51] <cwillu> heh, we all do it once in a while
[02:51] <LordLimecat> cwillu: lol, command was sudo mv /media/2ndhome/secondhome/* ../
[02:51] <LordLimecat> and yea, i found em
[02:51] <LordLimecat> theyre in /home
[02:51] <LordLimecat> -_-
[02:52] <cwillu> :)
[02:52] <harken> no one? :(
[02:52] <Skiessi> no one what? :o
[02:52] <cwillu> many one's
[02:52] <harken> i need help with madwifidriver in dapper drake, don't know how to tackel this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=479385
[02:53] <Skiessi> I wonder why some many people don't upgrade to newer versions of Ubuntu
[02:53] <harken> i realy could use some input on this
[02:53] <BotaniCar> hi, how can i see cpu temp on ubuntu 7.xx ?
[02:53] <Skiessi> *so
[02:54] <Arrick> hey all, if there is anyone here that knows how to config bcrtl and get it working I could use some help.... I have the man, but I can't understand it
[02:54] <cwillu> harken: I'd suspect environmental issues
[02:54] <harken> Skiessi 6.06 has lts
[02:54] <cwillu> microwave, cordless phone, etc
[02:55] <harken> cwillu:environmental issues??
[02:55] <cwillu> harken: unless you're maintaining several dozen machines or more, it's easier just to upgrade every 6 months
[02:56] <cwillu> lts is about security updates, to make people at big companies feel more secure;
[02:56] <cwillu> harken: cordless phone, microwave, etc
[02:56] <kane77> what do I need to compile (apart from build-essential and linux-headers)? I can't compile powerTop... :/
[02:56] <chadeldridge> Is ALSA or OSS either one capable of playing sound from mutiple sources at the same time (ie from Amarok and system sounds at the same time) ?
[02:56] <cwillu> harken: unless you've got another machine that works fine when located where yours is
[02:57] <cwillu> chadeldridge: should work under gnome by default, as long as you're not running any old style apps that lock the device up
[02:57] <cwillu> chadeldridge: flash plugin may have issues for instance
[02:57] <chadeldridge> cwillu:  for some reason its just not working at all
[02:57] <chadeldridge> any suggestions ?
[02:57] <harken> cwillu: it works on a other machine (the card)
[02:58] <neol> whenever i play dvd in totem movie player or xine player... i get this errror, are you trying to run encrypted dvds without "libdvdcss".
[02:58] <cwillu> harken: best bet would be to grab a 7.04 live cd, see if it has issues with the card;
[02:59] <mat1980> neol: install libdvdcss
[02:59] <neol> mat1980: how ?
[02:59] <cwillu> chadeldridge: what apps are running?
[02:59] <chadeldridge> neol :  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[03:00] <chadeldridge> just amarok
[03:00] <cwillu> no browser or anything?
[03:00] <chadeldridge> nope
[03:00] <chadeldridge> just amarok / thunderbird / evolution
[03:00] <chadeldridge> i dont get new mail sounds when amarok is playing
[03:00] <Skiessi> there's no libdvdcss in ubuntu repositories, I think
[03:00] <neol> chadeldridge: i'm using mandriva ... not ubuntu ? :(
[03:00] <mat1980> neol: apt-get install libdvdread3
[03:00] <chadeldridge> ahh ... mandriva
[03:00] <neol> mat1980: i'm using mandriva ... not ubuntu ? :(
[03:01] <chadeldridge>  well its not in your respository then
[03:01] <chadeldridge> let me see if i can find it for ya
[03:01] <mat1980> neol: why are you here then?
[03:01] <neol> chadeldridge: thanks
[03:01] <Arrick> ok, I fixed it
[03:01] <neol> mat1980: no body is in mandriva... everybody is sleeping... poor me :(
[03:01] <LadyNikon> eh
[03:01] <LadyNikon> mandriva sucks anyways
[03:02] <LadyNikon> :D
[03:02] <Skiessi> :D
[03:02] <chadeldridge> does mandriva us rpms ?
[03:02] <LadyNikon> yes
[03:02] <cwillu> chadeldridge: (pardon the vagueness, I'm not running gnome right now), system|preferences, sound, disable the checkbox about dmix or whatever, close everything (just to be on the safe side), reopen the sound pref page, turn dmix back on, and try it
[03:02] <neol> chadeldridge: yes
[03:02] <neol> LadyNikon: it does not i'm using from year...
[03:02] <hylje> hm i have edgy livecd loaded, can i install server through it? :o
[03:02] <chadeldridge> google mandriva libdvdcs .. its the first page
[03:03] <chadeldridge> cwillu:  testing
[03:03] <cwillu> hylje: yep, for some values of 'server'
[03:03] <mat1980> neol: look at http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_mandriva_free2007, maybe you'll find some useful tips.
[03:03] <KEL> ive read somewhere, there was some command for making boot floppy, but cant find it agane, anyone?:)
[03:03] <neol> mat1980: checking their now ... thanks
[03:03] <cwillu> hylje: it'll just install more packages by default, but all the same stuff can be done, you can still install apache, server kernel, etc
[03:04] <chadeldridge> cwillu:  that actually did fix it ... super weird .. thanks
[03:05] <cwillu> chadeldridge: np;  the mixer daemons have a weird thing where they close their connection to the card if they aren't used for 30 seconds or so, so that other apps incompatible with them can run.  It has the effect however of breaking things more often than it helps in my experience
[03:05] <zero-9377> anyone know much about alsa?
[03:05] <chadeldridge> thats special ... hope it gets fixed at some point ... but seems the ALSA development has gone by the wayside recently
[03:06] <Lacrymology> hi
[03:06] <Lacrymology> have you read this? http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/20/1215213
[03:06] <zero-9377> ive tried their channel but no one is there
[03:07] <chadeldridge> what is your question about alsa ?
[03:07] <cwillu> Lacrymology: unexciting;  although they really should get some packages going on the business side
[03:07] <zero-9377> i need to find out what my card is capable of without using dmix
[03:07] <chadeldridge> what is the card ?
[03:07] <zero-9377> maya 44 USB
[03:08] <sagem> hi all i want create my own live cd based on ubuntu feisty, where i can find some doc ?
[03:08] <cwillu> Lacrymology: that's about a customer unfriendly division of their business, not about ubuntu
[03:09] <Lacrymology> cwillu, I thought it might interest the comunity, and do you really think it uninteresting? I would think that's kind of illegal.. If a company can refuse to sell you something there's something very wrong with some laws somewhere, but what do I know
[03:09] <soyporti> does anyone knows if i can install a dapper package in feisty? it is ok to use dapper repositories? I'm trying to install xmame.
[03:10] <wols> soyporti: if the dependencies work alright it should be OK
[03:10] <cwillu> Lacrymology: and I was just noting my opinion on it :)
[03:10] <qnyc> soyporti, it's in feisty, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/games/xmame-x
[03:10] <soyporti> qnyc: thanks
[03:11] <cwillu> Lacrymology: #ubuntu-offtopic is likely to get more informative responses, anyway
[03:11] <soyporti> qnyc: do you what is that call bios on xmame or how can i configure that?
[03:11] <Lacrymology> =)
[03:11] <cwillu> Lacrymology: but I'm not sure its illegal, just distasteful
[03:12] <cwillu> (I know of several shops that don't sell to the general public, for instance)
[03:13] <qnyc> soyporti, if you are referring to game and bios rom images, you'll need those, but they're copyrighted so we can't help you here... the docs should tell you where to put stuff though
[03:13] <gnomefreak> cwillu: can you please continue to discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <cwillu> gnomefreak: already there, sorry :)
 there is a way to buy a neogeo game?
[03:14] <qnyc> not really
[03:14] <bobslaede> hey, how come i cannot install rpm files? with rpm installed, it just wants a bunch of dependencies
[03:14] <wifimonster> I just ried to sort out wireless according to these instructions but everything went wrong, now the kernel wont boot! http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/01/fixing-wifi-on-dell-1501.html. anyone any ideas?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: ubuntu doesnt use .rpm packages
[03:14] <cwillu> !alien > bobslaede:
[03:14] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: i'm aware of that
[03:15] <bobslaede> cwillu: i got alien installed, i came with the rpm package from apt
[03:15] <sskroeder> Hi all ... Can anybody give me some suggestions as to what software to use for recording small video clips from my web cam (v4l compatible) - preferably something with a GUI or at least to be able to see the video as it is recorded...
[03:15] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: but i need to install this rpm :)
[03:15] <cwillu> bobslaede: what package is it?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: you shouldnt need to
[03:15] <bobslaede> cwillu: alright, so it didnt come with rpm :p, it was just called rpm in apt
[03:16] <yondie> speaking bout webcam,, does anyone know wat brand of webcam that works just out of the box for linux
[03:16] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: i want the newest imagemagick, and its not in ubuntu
[03:16] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: you didnt look hard enough for the .deb than
[03:16] <yondie> bobslaede, download the source and compile it if u want one
[03:16] <bobslaede> yondie: wont make
[03:17] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: probably not
[03:17] <yondie> ??
[03:17] <poncha> bobslaede, if it's not packaged for debian/ubuntu then it is a better idea to get sources and build rather than trying to use rpm
[03:17] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: but i got the rpm from the officiel webpage
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: it builds fine
[03:17] <bobslaede> yondie: i can configure it, but it wont make
[03:17] <bobslaede> poncha: it wont build
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: you are missing something than
[03:17] <benmayim> how can I defragment my linux ubuntu?
[03:17] <wols> bobslaede: alien converted packages are evil. tar.gz is better than to convert them to .deb
[03:17] <gnomefreak> benmayim: you dont
[03:17] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: it configured alright
[03:17] <cwillu> benmayim: you don't
[03:17] <poncha> bobslaede, from the sources tarball?
[03:17] <sskroeder> yondie: i have a Logitech QuickCam 4000 which have been problematic on previous versions of ubuntu - but in Feisty it is plug-in and enjoy ...
[03:17] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: it built fine
[03:17] <jhaig> benmayim: You don't need to.
[03:17] <bobslaede> poncha: yeah
[03:18] <yondie> sskroeder, thanks for the tip
[03:18] <mat1980> benmayim: you don't need to defragment.
[03:18] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: not here it didnt
[03:18] <alesan> benmayim, install the package "defrag" on synaptic
[03:18] <idefixx> Is there anything in gnome that lets you chose what desktop background you want for which monitor and stuff like that, like in kde?
[03:18] <cwillu> alesan: there you go, ruining my fun :p
[03:18] <alesan> benmayim, and read the man page
[03:18] <wols> benmayim: you don't need to defrag it. how full is the disk?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: it did here when i built it (hence the your not looking hard enough for the .deb)
[03:18] <benmayim> thx alesan
[03:18] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: ;) i'll look for the deb then
[03:18] <alesan> benmayim, *read the man page* ok :) ???
[03:18] <eifzon> how do i install a icon theme?
[03:19] <alesan> cwillu, what do you mean :) sorry
[03:19] <wols> beakmann__: for 99% of people it is a waste of time to defrag only under very special circumstances it is advised
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !theme | eifzon
[03:19] <ubotu> eifzon: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:19] <fxfitz> Can anyone tell me why when I add authentication to apache for MythWeb, after I log in the real MythWeb interface doesn't appear? It only shows me an Index view of the folder.
[03:19] <LordLimecat> hah, i knew you could defrag ext3 :D
[03:19] <cwillu> alesan: telling him where the defragger was after I told him he didn't need it :)
[03:19] <jhaig> LordLimecat: You can, but it has little effect.
[03:19] <wifimonster> I just ried to sort out wireless according to these instructions but everything went wrong, the kernel wont boot! http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/01/fixing-wifi-on-dell-1501.html. I got in thru recovery mode and got kde back up by make uninstall
[03:19] <alesan> cwillu, reading the man page is what I wanted him to do :)
[03:19] <LordLimecat> right, but based on the explainations ive heard, it sounded like "ext3 is better than ntfs, but not perfect"
[03:20] <pha|con> you should only defrag if your drive is 20% or more fragmented
[03:20] <cwillu> alesan: :p
[03:20] <poncha> pha|con, and how do you know if it's 20% or more fragmented? :)
[03:20] <jhaig> LordLimecat: Any filesystem has fragmentation, but most keep it under control so there is no need to run a defrag.
[03:20] <pha|con> if you're using ext2 or ext3 or reiser it won't be
[03:20] <mat1980> sskroeder: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php
[03:20] <yondie> ponch_, i think its call bao bao
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.
[03:21] <yondie> or baobab
[03:21] <LordLimecat> jhaig: that explaination i can accept :)  people have been telling me "ext3 doesnt fragment", which sounded like total bull
[03:22] <LordLimecat> quick question, what happens if you defrag a mounted fs?
[03:22] <pha|con> it does fragment, but ext3 keeps the pieces as close together as it can instead of writing them willy-nilly like *some* other FS's i could name
[03:22] <cwillu> LordLimecat: you destroy the fs
[03:22] <LordLimecat> ooh...
[03:22] <LordLimecat> neato
[03:22] <sskroeder> mat1980: i wasn't looking for devices to use .. i'm looking for software to record small videos from v4l://
[03:23] <cwillu> LordLimecat: memory fragments too, but in any properly designed general purpose system, the fragmentation is bounded
[03:23] <mat1980> sskroeder: ehm... sorry, that was a reply to another guy. :-[
[03:23] <jhaig> If a filesystem didn't allow for fragmentation you could end up with a situation where there is enough space on the disk but you cannot write a file because it is too big.
[03:24] <sskroeder> mat1980: probably yondie ;-D
[03:24] <LordLimecat> i think im gonna ditch defrag tho, dont like the idea of accidentally using it one drunken night
[03:25] <alesan> sskroeder, vlc maybe (videolan)
[03:25] <miikal> Has anyone a suggestion for an alternative to http://web.telia.com/~u11125889/ for ubuntu?  It prob could be tricked into working with Wine, but as it requires .Net I'm a bit sceptical.
[03:25] <craigbass1976> Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[03:25] <mat1980> yondie: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php
[03:25] <miikal> all it does is join several pictures together as one.
[03:25] <mat1980> sskroeder: you're right :)
[03:26] <cwillu> how compatible is mono with .net these days?
[03:26] <alesan> miikal, you can do the same in Linux with native programs
[03:26] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: are you on feisty?
[03:26] <kdiggdy> hello
[03:26] <alesan> miikal, how do you want then joined?
[03:26] <miikal> alesan, i was thinking something like imagemagick prob could do the job... I'm not sure.
[03:26] <craigbass1976> kdiggdy, what's up
[03:26] <alesan> miikal, imagemagick works for sure. you can do incredible things with it
[03:27] <Arrick> hey all
[03:27] <Arrick> I am attempting to get VSFTPD working correctly in Ubuntu and i would like to get it setup for only one user to be able to write to it, and annonymous to be able to read it... Can someone help me out here? I have it installed and everything, and the users can read it, however my user cant write to it
[03:27] <sskroeder> alesan: Hmm ... with VLC i can see the output from the cam - but is there a record button somewhere ?? ;-D i can't find it ;-D
[03:27] <alesan> just read a guide (IBM has a very good one)
[03:27] <miikal> alesan, I imagine i select the number of columns, and all images are scaled to be of equal height and width, like the example on that page.
[03:27] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: yeah
[03:27] <alesan> sskroeder, use it from the command line!!!!!!!
[03:27] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: give me a few minutes
[03:27] <mat1980> sskroeder: did you tried programs included in package camstream?
[03:27] <kdiggdy> I need help with my ubuntu and ati gfx card working togeather
[03:27] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: cool
[03:27] <Arrick> heya gnomefreak long time no see
[03:27] <craigbass1976> Arrick, does it matter who owns the directory?  Who owns it?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: i have gutsy debs im building feisty ones atm
[03:28] <miikal> kdiggdy, how very uncommon :)
[03:28] <gnomefreak> hi Arrick
[03:28] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[03:28] <alesan> sskroeder, what you want is vlc or mencoder, from the command line always.
[03:28] <Arrick> craigbass1976, not sure, cant even figure out which Directory it is, and I want it changed to a different one
[03:28] <alesan> miikal, etll me what you want to do
[03:28] <kdiggdy> miikal, i know :(
[03:28] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: great, don't know why i cant build it here
[03:28] <sskroeder> mat1980: no - hadn't heard of that package before ... will check it out
[03:28] <alesan> create thumbnails, miikal ?
[03:28] <Arrick> !vsftpd
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <Arrick> wow, a program in the repos isnt in the bot
[03:29] <Arrick> !ftp
[03:29] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:29] <sskroeder> alesan: there's no way to get recording with VLC from the gui ? ... I'm much more of a GUI guy than a cmd-line hacker ;-D
[03:29] <miikal> alesan, no, not really.  http://web.telia.com/~u11125889/before.html  to http://web.telia.com/~u11125889/after.html  ... many images into one big one.  resizing not that important, that can be done later once the images are joined.
[03:29] <kdiggdy> would anyone be able to help?
[03:29] <craigbass1976> Arrick, the farther you go, the more you'll find programs like that
[03:30] <Arrick> whats that craigbass1976 the only thing that shows up in the repos, and no support for it?
[03:30] <alesan> sskroeder, I have no idea, I've never used the GUI
[03:30] <yondie> miikal: why not use convert -adjoin ?
[03:31] <craigbass1976> Arrick, Post your ftp conf file somewhere (rafb or pastebin, whatever) and lets have a look.
[03:31] <miikal> yondie, i'll look into that, thank you.
[03:31] <Arrick> craigbass1976, uhmm, ok, gotta find it
[03:31] <sskroeder> alesan: ok ;-D .. thanks anyway .. i'll try to see if i can figure out running VLC from the shell then...
[03:31] <yondie> miikal: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php
[03:31] <GizDrak> morning all
[03:31] <AaronCampbell> Would anyone have time to try to help me make my networking work again on Kubuntu Fiesty?  I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working
[03:31] <craigbass1976> Arrick, look in /etc
[03:32] <AaronCampbell> It appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP
[03:32] <yondie> one of the crazy project that i purpose is implementing furior transform with image magic
[03:32] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[03:32] <Arrick> yeah, there already, and no vsftpd directory
[03:32] <AaronCampbell> And worst of all, it was working fine a few days ago
[03:32] <alesan> sskroeder, go in #videolan or #mplayer and ask there
[03:32] <craigbass1976> Arrick, really...  What did you do, aptget install vsftpd?
[03:32] <miikal> thanks a lot, alesan and yondie. I knew it had to be there. No matter if renaming files, manipulating text files or images, I know it can be done, but my google skills have problems finding the magic combo :)   adjoin seems spot on.
[03:32] <Arrick> yes
[03:32] <GizDrak> I just ran mkfs.ext3 -m0 /dev/sdb1 on my disk to format it to ext3 it was running looked fine got almost to the end. then my screen goes black ubuntu crashes now ubuntu will not load back up at all I can not even get back to a command line. any ideas?
[03:33] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: does ifconfig show any ip addresses assigned to anything?
[03:33] <alesan> miikal, you're welcome
[03:33] <cwillu> GizDrak: from a live cd?
[03:34] <mat1980> AaronCampbell: it could be a routing problem. I have them sometime when I use two network card. Post the output of route command.
[03:34] <GizDrak> no
[03:34] <Arrick> found the .conf craigbass1976
[03:34] <alesan> sskroeder, go in #videolan or #mplayer and ask there for the GUI version
[03:34] <sskroeder> alesan: thanks ;-D
[03:34] <craigbass1976> Arrick, Where?  I just isntalled it and dont' see one either.  ftpusers, but that's all so far
[03:34] <Arrick> craigbass1976, http://pastebin.ca/581302
[03:34] <Arrick> its in /etc/ with no directory craigbass1976
[03:34] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: eth0 has 192.168.2.1 (static)  Eth1 has nothing, wlan0 lists an inet6 address...which I don't think it should
[03:35] <alesan> miikal,  http://imagemagick.org/script/montage.php
[03:35] <GizDrak> cwillu: was a fresh install of ubuntu 7.04 64bit
[03:35] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: inet6 addr is normal
[03:35] <alesan> miikal, it seems "montage" is what you want (and more)
[03:35] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: is eth0 plugged into anything?
[03:35] <cwillu> GizDrak: only one drive?
[03:35] <frank_> hola
[03:36] <GizDrak> cwillu: No raid-5 of 4 P-Drives with 2 logical drivers
[03:36] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: yes.  It's plugged into a gigabit switch, which is connected to a router.  I tried plugging it straight to the router as well.
[03:36] <GizDrak> drives*
[03:36] <nd81x> anyone know how to install wireless driver for acer aspire 5040 to ubuntu 7.04?
[03:36] <cwillu> GizDrak: I guess I'm asking if sda was the drive ubuntu was installed on :p
[03:36] <GizDrak> cwillu: and it is a hardware raid and not a software raid
[03:37] <AaronCampbell> mat1980: I can't "post" the output anywhere, but I could type it up somewhere
[03:37] <netG> hi
[03:37] <benmayim> I have defrag from synaptic installed, how do I run it?
[03:37] <GizDrak> cwillu: yes ubuntu was on /dev/sda I was formating /dev/sdb
[03:37] <cwillu> GizDrak: ah, I get it
[03:38] <WeeJeWel> how can i use a gtk theme on xfce?
[03:38] <cwillu> GizDrak: and it was an actual raid card, not just a mb with raid supporting extensions?
[03:38] <GizDrak> cwillu: /dev/sba is 30gb and has the /boot / and swap /dev/sdb is 2.1tb
[03:38] <cwillu> k
[03:38] <GizDrak> cwillu: yes real raid controllor
[03:38] <craigbass1976> Arrick, tell me again what you're trying to do?
[03:39] <ham1979> hello
[03:39] <RivaeAerya> How can I reset ALL Xorg configuration, and make it just as if i made a new install? it has kind of been messed up because i bought a new monitor.
[03:39] <cwillu> GizDrak: doesn't boot up at all;  no signs of the boot loader?
[03:39] <Arrick> craigbass1976, i want anonymous users to be able to read, and only one user (lets say ftp) to be able to have full control of the dir
[03:39] <cwillu> GizDrak: (assuming that you originally installed from the cd), if you boot off the cd, the devices show up?
[03:40] <craigbass1976> Arrick, What are you ftp-ing in for, web site?
[03:40] <GizDrak> cwillu: no I get the boot loader and I get to the ubuntu process bar but it stops and locks up there
[03:40] <Arrick> yes craigbass1976
[03:40] <cwillu> GizDrak: ah, k
[03:40] <cwillu> GizDrak: recovery mode fails as well?
[03:40] <kdiggdy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2886712
[03:40] <AaronCampbell> mat1980: http://paste-bin.com/11967
[03:40] <GizDrak> cwillu: yes it errors when I select my /
[03:41] <craigbass1976> Arrick, what's on the server, several sites?
[03:41] <Arrick> no, right now one site
[03:41] <GizDrak> cwillu: says it had a error mounting the device
[03:41] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[03:41] <bersace> Hi all
[03:41] <verb3k_> guys is it OK if I use Debian's UNSTABLE repository on ubuntu ?
[03:42] <bersace> Since a few days, my feisty fawn installation does a kernel panic
[03:42] <bersace> Even the live cd do that
[03:42] <defrysk> verb3k_, nope
[03:42] <bersace> I send the laptop and they just reinstall Windows XP
[03:42] <cwillu> GizDrak: I'd try booting off the live cd, and see if you can mount /dev/sda there;  at the very least, you'd be able to get some useful logs hopefully
[03:42] <bersace> f*
[03:42] <verb3k_> defrysk, why ? isn't ubuntu compatible with Debian ?
[03:42] <cwillu> GizDrak: what's the error you got?
[03:43] <defrysk> verb3k_, it would like using mandrake repos on redhat
[03:43] <mat1980> AaronCampbell: no route problem. sorry.
[03:43] <GizDrak> cwillu: heh I just reset to try live cd do not remember what it said other then it had a error mounting the device when I select /
[03:43] <Mc5ive> Is there any1 else here thats had any problems with Cedega or Command AndConquer Generals?
[03:43] <cwillu> verb3k_: you can sometimes get individual packages to work, but using the whole repo is likely to get problems
[03:44] <nd81x> any one know how to install wireless driver for acer aspire 5040 to ubuntu 7.04? help please....:'(
[03:44] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: any other ideas on my network problem?
[03:44] <verb3k_> cwillu, hmm ...like what for example ?
[03:44] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: one sec
[03:44] <techbee> hello  all
[03:44] <defrysk> verb3k_, missing deps incomaptible deps and stuff like that
[03:45] <cwillu> (thanks)
[03:45] <iphv37> nd8lx, i think u don't need to install any driver for that one!
[03:45] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: does the router have dhcp enabled?
[03:45] <GizDrak> cwillu: Booting off live CD now. If it helps this is a Dell Poweredge 2950
[03:45] <techbee> i  found  my m/c  reboots  without any  reason , i  m using dapper
[03:45] <verb3k_> defrysk, cwillu  I  see ....thanks for your advice
[03:46] <techbee> i checked mailing list &  found  that it is  known bug in dapper
[03:46] <techbee> is there any  way to fix it ?
[03:46] <defrysk> techbee, use feisty might help
[03:46] <ffm> How do I kill the VBox GUI proccess?
[03:47] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: yes, that's how this laptop and a couple other computers here get their IPs
[03:47] <techbee>  defrysk: is  there any other option  than dist-upgrade
[03:47] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: what do you get if you do sudo dhclient eth0 (or whichever you have plugged in, regardless of whether it's actually set static or dhcp)?
[03:48] <nrdb> anyone know what the relative usage of Linux compaired to Solaris is ?
[03:48] <techbee> !anyone
[03:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:48] <defrysk> techbee, honestly I do not know sorry
[03:48] <cwillu> GizDrak: how's it coming?
[03:48] <Luxurious> Hiya guys,.
[03:48] <Nutubuntu> I'm used to Gnome and want to try KDE. On my new box I installed Kubuntu, then after a day or two of playing with KDE, I installed gnome-desktop. Thought I'd have a prompt at login for which session to start ... I don't, and I have a weird mix of the Gnome desktop and the Kubuntu apps. How do I get a one-or-the-other choice?
[03:48] <cwillu> nrdb: don't know off hand, but I'd say that linux likely has a large upper hand
[03:48] <GizDrak> cwillu: live cd just came up going to try mounting the drive
[03:48] <wifimonster> nrdb: similar to microsoft/ubuntu usage I imagine
[03:49] <cwillu> GizDrak: k
[03:49] <benmayim> I just installed defrag from the synaptic installer. How do I use it? Is it command line? Is there a defragmenter that is gui?
[03:49] <Luxurious> A tiny little problem.  I'm unable to mount SSH connections to the desktop.  I can do it using the command line, but getting it as a desktop "folder", if you will, doesn't quite work.
[03:49] <cwillu> benmayim: um, don't
[03:49] <Nutubuntu> benmayim,  why do you need defrag?
[03:49] <Luxurious> It just doesn't appaear.
[03:49] <mrsn0> benmayim defrag ? O_o
[03:49] <cwillu> benmayim: you don't want to defrag, really
[03:49] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: give me a few more minutes make passed now im building .debs to see if it passes
[03:49] <benmayim> I don't know, don't linux drives get fragmented?
[03:49] <dyrne> Luxurious: using sshfs
[03:49] <dyrne> ?
[03:49] <cwillu> benmayim: linux file systems are designed to keep fragmentation bounded
[03:49] <mrsn0> BenC the defrag package in ubuntu is for ext2/minix and xiafs file systems, you do not need it :)
[03:49] <ffm> How do I kill the VBox GUI proccess?
[03:49] <mrsn0> benmayim even sorry
[03:50] <cwillu> (brb)
[03:50] <cwillu> (back)
[03:50] <benmayim> cwillu, what does bounded mean?
[03:50] <Luxurious> dyrne: Just adding a connection using GNOME.
[03:50] <Luxurious> Places > Make connection...
[03:50] <darwin81> Is a higher refresh rate better?
[03:50] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: alright
[03:50] <cwillu> benmayim: it means it's not going to ever be a problem except in very very special circumstances
[03:51] <benmayim> ok, thx cwillu.
[03:51] <cwillu> benmayim: np
[03:51] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: ?
[03:51] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: it says: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801...Listening...Sending...it tried 4 different intervals...No DHCPOFFERS received...No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[03:51] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: hang out for a bit im gonna rerun this on another pc real fast (i hope)
[03:51] <cwillu> weird
[03:51] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: just takes me a while to type all that in...since I'm on a different system..
[03:51] <jbig> it seems ubuntu installer doesnt recognized sata hardrive.. i cant install ubuntu
[03:51] <cwillu> no problem
[03:51] <cwillu> just wasn't sure if you were still there :)
[03:52] <cwillu> jbig: unlikely, but are you running a raid?
[03:52] <jbig> any help
[03:52] <wers> how do I change the menu bar icon? I am using the nimbus icon theme and it replaced the ubuntu logo
[03:52] <jbig> nope ... it just a sata hardrive
[03:52] <cwillu> jbig: latest ubuntu
[03:52] <cwillu> ?
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> cwillu,  what's the story with RAID? I just installed Feisty on a new box in a software RAID ... I'm curious.
[03:52] <jbig> yup..latest
[03:53] <cwillu> Nutubuntu: just that fakeraid isn't quite as straightforward to use as software or hardware
[03:53] <GizDrak> cwillu: When I go to mount it I get. wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg tail or so
[03:53] <OrgulloKmoore> hmm...I've recently upgraded to fiesty, and before firefox worked fine. Now, it closes very frequently when I l click on a link for no apparent reason. Help?
[03:53] <wers> is it possible for me to change some icons in an icon theme?
[03:53] <Nutubuntu> Ah, I see ... t/y, cwillu. jbig - have you done tests on the HD to make sure it's okay?
[03:53] <cwillu> GizDrak: hmm;  silly question, but you're sure you ran that command against the right drive?
[03:54] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: i can test for you too, if you want
[03:54] <jbig> cwillu: any clue coz im trying it several times and it didnt work
[03:54] <wifimonster> I just installed wireless with these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-434946.html
[03:54] <GizDrak> cwillu: pretty sure /dev/sda1 is /boot /dev/sda2  is / and /dev/sda3 is swap
[03:54] <cwillu> jbig, sorry, need a second, I'm doing 2 conversations already :)
[03:54] <jbig> its ok bec it has windows xp b4
[03:54] <jbig> ok cwillu....ill wait
[03:55] <wifimonster> I just installed wireless with these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-434946.html but now I have a network device eth0:avah, what the hells that about??
[03:55] <cwillu> GizDrak: what numbered devices are there for /dev/sda?
[03:55] <cwillu> GizDrak: could it be a different partition by any chance?
[03:55] <cwillu> AaronCampbell, ditto with eth1?
[03:55] <darwin81> Is a higher refresh rate better?
[03:55] <cwillu> darwin81: generally
[03:55] <OrgulloKmoore> is there a way to downgrade to a more stable version of firefox using apt-get?
[03:55] <Nutubuntu> jbig,  can you say more specifically what happens when you try to install ubuntu? where and how does it fail?
[03:56] <GizDrak> cwillu: No it is /dev/sda2 I can mount /dev/sda1  but it is just the /boot
[03:56] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: yes
[03:56] <cwillu> GizDrak: and swap is sda5, or on the other drive?
[03:56] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: what is wrong with your current version?
[03:56] <OrgulloKmoore> kbrosnan> hmm...I've recently upgraded to fiesty, and before firefox worked fine. Now, it closes very frequently when I l click on a link for no apparent reason. Help?
[03:56] <GizDrak> cwillu: only 3 partitions 1/2/3 sda3 is swap
[03:56] <jbig> nutubuntu: it say that it didnt detect a hardrive
[03:57] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[03:57] <Nutubuntu> jbig, it's unlikely but possible that the iso image is not okay; did you checksum it?
[03:57] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: would you type about:plugins in the address bar, then post the contents of that page on a pastebin site like http://pastebin.mozilla.org
[03:58] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I decide whether to choose single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module or cdbs? when creating a deb package?
[03:58] <GizDrak> cwillu: and it looks like the live cd is using dev/sda3 because it is busy and will not mount
[03:58] <cwillu> GizDrak: ya, that sounds right;  it'll use a swap partition if it sees one available already
[03:58] <mat1980> OrgulloKmoore: I remember there was a bug on firefox with flash.
[03:58] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: no i am testing one of the tools im using to build it ill let you know as soon as im done i should have .debs if everything goes right
[03:58] <cwillu> GizDrak: did you have to do anything special to get it to install originally?
[03:58] <GizDrak> cwillu: no was a really smooth install
[03:58] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: ok
[03:59] <geoffthefish> how do i know what network device (eth1, eth0 etc) applies to what physical port?  (having a hard time setting up connection sharing...)
[03:59] <OrgulloKmoore> kbrosnan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26596/
[03:59] <cwillu> GizDrak: ext3?
[03:59] <GizDrak> cwillu: Yes
[03:59] <ryan__> geoffthefish, couldnt you just plug one cable in and see wich eth has a connection
[04:00] <Crashed> Hey guys, when I run the command 'ps aux', I get MEM and CPU data about the processes.
[04:00] <Crashed> Are they in percent?
[04:00] <Crashed> Or MHz/MB?
[04:00] <cwillu> time, mb I believe
[04:00] <Crashed> CPU time and MEM mb?
[04:00] <Crashed> I think 'TIME' gives me CPU time.
[04:01] <geoffthefish> ryan__ eth1 seems to be my wireless connection to internet. i have plugged another computer into my laptop via crossover cable which i thought would be eth0 but firestarter says not configured
[04:01] <GizDrak> cwillu: could the kernel be handling the Raid-5 wrong? which then made a bad write to the disk messing up the partition table for root?
[04:01] <cwillu> GizDrak: I wonder what fsck /dev/sda2 would say?
[04:01] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: the version of flash you are using is quite old and may be the source of your problems as flash is very common
[04:01] <littlesniper> I have a question I just need a confirmation actually
[04:01] <MrKeuner> geoffthefish: you can use System/Pref/Hardware Information application
[04:01] <cwillu> GizDrak: if its a hardware raid, the kernel shouldn't even really be doing anything with it
[04:01] <Nutubuntu> Crashed,  maybe we're looking at different outputs but when I 'ps aux' the output is labeled across the top row. PID, PU, %MEM, etc.
[04:02] <cwillu> GizDrak: I might have confused myself
[04:02] <littlesniper> can i use beryl effects without beryl themes (i.e with metacity themes or sawfish)
[04:02] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: does this http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ crash firefox?
[04:02] <cwillu> GizDrak: sda is seperate from the raid or no?
[04:02] <ryan__> Crashed, its user | pid | cpu% | mem% | vsz | rss | tty | stat | start | time | command
[04:02] <GizDrak> cwillu: sda is a logical drive on the raid
[04:02] <OrgulloKmoore> yes it does, kbrosnan_
[04:02] <Crashed> Oh, it does say that. Hehe :)
[04:02] <Crashed> Thanks.
[04:02] <Nutubuntu> n/p :)
[04:03] <MrKeuner> !packaging
[04:03] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[04:03] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[04:03] <littlesniper> can i use beryl effects without beryl themes (i.e with metacity themes or sawfish)
[04:03] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: any other ideas?
[04:03] <Nutubuntu> !repeat
[04:03] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:04] <cwillu> AaronCampbell: was curious why wmaster0 showed up for dhclient
[04:04] <geoffthefish> MrKeuner, i cannot find that app?  am running edgy..
[04:04] <GizDrak> cwillu: fsck gave: Group descripters look bad... trying backup blocks... /dev/sda2 was cleanly unmounted, check forced. pass 1: checking inodes, blocks and sizes deleted inode 48961 has zero dtime. fix,y>?
[04:04] <cwillu> GizDrak: :/
[04:04] <ryan__> littlesniper, there are themes for emerald to make it look like human metacity theme
[04:04] <cwillu> GizDrak:  nothing valuable on that machine yet?
[04:05] <MrKeuner> geoffthefish: try running hal-device-manager then. I do not know if it is in edgy
[04:05] <GizDrak> cwillu: not yet
[04:05] <cwillu> ya, try fixing then;
[04:05] <cwillu> just reresearching my hardware raid stuff
[04:05] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: not sure...lemme check
[04:05] <littlesniper> ryan__: metacity windows borders thems are very poor compared to sawfish one, so I thought more about it
[04:05] <GizDrak> cwillu: there are a lot of them keeps asking to fix more lol
[04:05] <cwillu> GizDrak: not unsurprising
[04:05] <cwillu> GizDrak: what you said sounds plausible
[04:06] <cwillu> I'm vaguely remembering seeing a linux live cd do something slightly weird on a promise raid controller
[04:06] <littlesniper> ryan__: I would like to have non rectangular borders like in sawfish but with beryl effects, I wonder if that is possible
[04:06] <AaronCampbell> cwillu: same thing
[04:06] <cwillu> (i.e., it wanted to do operations on the individual drives rather than the logical drive)
[04:07] <GizDrak> cwillu: I have hit yes about 50 times now and it is still going lol
[04:07] <Nutubuntu> cwillu,  weird ... I thought a RAID controller was supposed to "hide" the physical devices from the OS entirely...
[04:07] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[04:08] <HorizonXP> i seemed to have messed up my feisty install
[04:08] <chadeldridge> how so ?
[04:08] <cwillu> Nutubuntu: unless the os has direct driver support for the raid (the 'hiding' is usually bios level)
[04:08] <HorizonXP> i was trying to update to compiz-fusion, but it wasn't working
[04:08] <HorizonXP> in the process, i uninstall compiz, beryl, and ubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <HorizonXP> i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and compiz, so i'm using them now
[04:08] <HorizonXP> but any program i run, doesn't work
[04:08] <cwillu> GizDrak: I just don't have a controller to see what to expect
[04:08] <HorizonXP> not even terminal
[04:08] <HorizonXP> oddly Gaim does
[04:09] <HorizonXP> Firefox does not
[04:09] <GizDrak> cwillu: not a problem
[04:09] <HorizonXP> Synaptic package manager works too
[04:09] <GizDrak> cwillu: just wondering how I can avoid this happening again this will be a server do not want it to crash randomly
[04:09] <cwillu> GizDrak: are there /dev/md0'ish devices there?
[04:10] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  So this is after a full install .. or just a repair type install ?
[04:10] <GizDrak> cwillu: no /dev/md0-etc
[04:10] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: I just did an aptitude install
[04:10] <chadeldridge> k
[04:11] <hylje> hi, i have a MPT-compatible (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/12582/ENG/LinuxMPT_Rel_Notes_3.03.17.04.txt) chipset on my iron, LSI Logic 53C1020
[04:11] <hylje> the server installer appears to not detect the device with its mpt drivers
[04:11] <chadeldridge> give me 1 sec to get the dependancy list for ubuntu-desktop ... seems your missing something
[04:11] <OrgulloKmoore> kbrosnan_> hey, that's awesome, it fixed it. Thanks!
[04:11] <family> does anybody know how to fix this error in aptitude? E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[04:11] <OrgulloKmoore> ...and youtube videos look better now :)
[04:11] <kbrosnan_> OrgulloKmoore: glad to hear that!
[04:11] <gnomefreak> family: amd64?
[04:12] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge, that's what i thought too, but synaptic's not picking them up!
[04:12] <family> gnomefreak: no
[04:12] <GizDrak> cwillu: I used parted to partition the /dev/sdb could I have set a bad partition that some how effected /dev/sda2 ?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> family: 386?
[04:12] <family> gnomefreak: I believe it's 686
[04:12] <darwin81> I'm trying to transfer files from an iPod and I don't think it's transferring anything because it stays on the same file and the time remaning keeps going up (it's at 50 hours right now).
[04:12] <gnomefreak> family: enable multiverse repos
[04:12] <jedihq> I am trying to mount an ext3 drive but how to I make it so it will not have to be remounted after a reboot?
[04:12] <Nutubuntu> gnomefreak,  problem with A64 and sun java? (/me worries ... need java on new A64 ...)
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Nutubuntu: java 6 isnt build for a64
[04:13] <Nutubuntu> :/
[04:13] <mat1980> jedihg: you have to edit /etc/fstab
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Nutubuntu: you need to use blackdown 1.4
[04:13] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  did you say that SPM was working ?
[04:13] <cwillu> GizDrak: what's the raid controller?
[04:13] <Nutubuntu> t/y gnomefreak :)
[04:13] <family> gnomefreak: I do have it enabled. The PC got shut off somehow while java was installing, so now it's giving me this error
[04:13] <gnomefreak> Nutubuntu: maybe gutsy will change that we are working on makes 386 java run on 64
[04:13] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: yea it is
[04:14] <gnomefreak> family: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:14] <chadeldridge> what happens if you right click ubuntu-desktop and tell it to reinstall ?
[04:14] <HorizonXP> lemme try
[04:14] <Erich85> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to stall Mathematica 6.0 for Linux.
[04:15] <jedihq> what do I edit into it with?
[04:15] <family> gnomefreak: that doesn't work, either :-(
[04:15] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: do I have to restart?
[04:15] <Erich85> There is not an obvious to use debian install package, which makes sense as it's not made particularly for Debian.  Am I out of luck?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> family: was it downloading it or installing it?
[04:15] <chadeldridge> more than likely .. yes
[04:15] <HorizonXP> ok
[04:15] <Ali_ix> hi channel
[04:15] <HorizonXP> i'll be back
[04:15] <HorizonXP> hopefully
[04:15] <chadeldridge> gl
[04:15] <Ali_ix> any way to convert FAT32 to ext3?
[04:15] <family> gnomefreak: I'm not sure. I left it to install several hundred packages over night, so I have no idea what stage it was at
[04:16] <jedihq> mat1980: what do I edit into fstab?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> family: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:16] <family> Ali_ix: no, you have to backup your data and reformat
[04:16] <GizDrak> cwillu: it is a    	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	 	   PERC 5/i integrated SAS/SATA daughtercard controller with 256MB cache, PERC 4e/DC, PERC 5/e adapter
[04:16] <GizDrak> bad paste lol
[04:16] <Nutubuntu> Ali_ix,  backup/reformat or build a new ext3 partition (or buy a new drive) and cp
[04:16] <chadeldridge> can anyone recomend a good utility for backing up an entire linux system ?
[04:17] <Ali_ix> family: painfull with 250 gig of data :|
[04:17] <Ali_ix> Nutubuntu: family, thanks
[04:17] <family> gnomefreak: still doesn't work :(
[04:17] <Erich85> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to stall Mathematica 6.0 for Linux.
[04:17] <gnomefreak> family: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:17] <mamour> #ubuntu
[04:17] <Nutubuntu> Ali_ix,  I've seen 300GB drives well under US$75 lately
[04:17] <CroX> I want to set up an iCal server. How can I go about doing that on Ubuntu?
[04:17] <Agip> hi, is there a version of XMMS2 available for ubuntu?
[04:18] <family> gnomefreak: doesn't work. I'll paste the error I got.. 1 sec
[04:18] <hrehf_> can i umount my /home directory? i always get "device is busy", even when im forcing it. what do i do to unmount it?
[04:18] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: no dice
[04:18] <Nutubuntu> hrehf_,  is /home on its own partition?
[04:18] <hrehf_> Nutubuntu yes, it is, im trying to umount that partition
[04:18] <the_undefined> hey folks
[04:19] <Agip> hi, is there a version of XMMS2 available for ubuntu?
[04:19] <Nutubuntu> !repeate
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <family> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26603/
[04:19] <Nutubuntu> !repeat
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:19] <GizDrak> cwillu: card is made by lsi logic
[04:19] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  You also have ubuntu-keyring and ubuntu-minimal installed ?
[04:19] <the_undefined> Q: I need help with getting my ubuntu box connected to the web. Setup is: Ubunutu box -> Win Box -> Wireless Router -> Cable
[04:20] <Agip> k
[04:20] <pha|con> the_undefined: is your wireless card detected in ubuntu?
[04:20] <aquo> I want to customize Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and generate install media with my own package set.
[04:20] <cwillu> GizDrak: lsmod |grep mptsas give you anything?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: its failing to build on feisty version (ImageMagick-6.3.4) either check back in a couple of days or go with older version. it looks like its looking for files feisty doesnt have anymore
[04:20] <hrehf_> Nutubuntu: was that directed at me? ;)
[04:20] <the_undefined> pha|con: no I connect the ubuntu box to the win box via network cable and the win box got the wireless card
[04:20] <the_undefined> pha|con: The ubuntu -> win box connection works
[04:20] <the_undefined> pha|con: tested with ping etc.
[04:20] <the_undefined> pha|con: I'm just unable to access the WAN through it
[04:20] <aquo> is the some document that explains the difference between ubuntu and http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/?
[04:21] <aquo> +re
[04:21] <chadeldridge> the_underfined:  So you are trying to use internet connection sharing through an XP box ?
[04:21] <family> gnomefreak: haha, I got it. When you said apt-get -f install, I didn't realize you meant with no packages :-P
[04:21] <pha|con> the_undefined: first thing make sure that the cable that goes from your ubuntu box to your windows box is crossover cable
[04:21] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: essentially yes
[04:21] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: thats the version i was trying to build too
[04:21] <gnomefreak> family: lol
[04:21] <Crashed> Guys, is there a way to limit a process to only x CPU usage?
[04:21] <the_undefined> pha|con: it is - ping works. The two boxes are connected.
[04:21] <gnomefreak> bobslaede: its the source that is messed up
[04:21] <Crashed> Like, I want to give a process 70% CPU usage max.
[04:21] <Nutubuntu> hrehf_,  sorry, I don't understand ... I think all I asked you was whether /home was on its own partition; you said it is -- so, other than that, no ;)
[04:21] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: alright then, i'll just have to wait
[04:21] <pha|con> the_undefined: then make sure you have internet connection sharing turned on in windows.  past that, i'm not too sure how it work...haven't used windows in a loooong time
[04:21] <Crashed> It can never go higher than that, but it can go lower.
[04:21] <Crashed> Is that possible?
[04:21] <the_undefined> pha|con: hehe
[04:21] <bobslaede> gnomefreak: its too bad tho, 6.3 has some great stuff in it
[04:21] <the_undefined> pha|con: I hope to get there myself
[04:21] <chadeldridge> the_undefined:  You are brave first of all ... what do you have the gateway of the linux box set to be ?
[04:22] <the_undefined> pha|con: just can't switch from today to tomorrow ; )
[04:22] <aquo> i am interested in topic like repository management, how packages get into the official distribution and where ubuntu differs from debian.
[04:22] <gnomefreak> libtool doesnt know where the .la files are because they have been removed
[04:22] <hrehf_> Nutubuntu: oh, i was unsure about the !repeat - got any advice to work around the 'busyness' of the device?
[04:22] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: i do have both
[04:22] <M-> Crashed: not really, but what you can do is re-prioritise a process - make it have a lower or higher priority than other processes running on the system
[04:22] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: hehe. I set it to 192.168.0.1 the IP of the win box
[04:22] <mat1980> Crashed: yes, it's possible... I remember there is a file to set up.
[04:22] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  what about ubuntu-standard ?
[04:22] <GizDrak> cwillu: not sure I have reset and going to install ubuntu again and see what happens maybe it was just some random bug or something I did wrong I will let you know.
[04:22] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: I configured ubuntu to run on 192.168.0.2
[04:22] <cwillu> k
[04:22] <M-> Crashed: you can do that with the (re)nice commands.
[04:22] <chadeldridge> and what is the ip of the router ?
[04:22] <Crashed> Thanks, M.
[04:22] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: And my wifi DNS is 192.168.11.1
[04:22] <HorizonXP> yes
[04:22] <cwillu> GizDrak: shoot me an email if you want (cwillu@cwillu.com)
[04:23] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: but I can't ping it from the ubuntu box
[04:23] <GizDrak> cwillu: thanks for the help
[04:23] <cwillu> GizDrak: mptsas is the module that's supposed to be handling that
[04:23] <iTurtle> Abiword, Gnumeric, and Criawips are the whole GNOME office suite, right?
[04:23] <GizDrak> cwillu: handle the raid controllor?
[04:23] <cwillu> GizDrak:  http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org/msg01301.html might be related
[04:23] <cwillu> GizDrak: yep
[04:23] <chadeldridge> wait .. do you have both 192.168.0 and 192.168.11 in use with this ... because you probably have a routing issue if so
[04:23] <GizDrak> cwillu: I will check it out
[04:24] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: hm?
[04:24] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: yes
[04:24] <chadeldridge> you need to give the linux box a route to that 192.168.11 network
[04:24] <cwillu> GizDrak: my next thing was going to be googling the module name and seeing if anything useful came up
[04:24] <asep> on ubuntu 7.04 server
[04:24] <chadeldridge> otherwise it wont ping it
[04:24] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: yes exactly, the Q is: How do I do this? ; )
[04:24] <GizDrak> cwillu: ok I will do that has well
[04:24] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: i noticed something... I have firefox, and firefox32. firefox32 works fine
[04:24] <HorizonXP> chadeldrige: firefox does not
[04:24] <asep> howto install gui on ubuntu 7.04 server
[04:24] <cwillu> AaronCampbell, still there?
[04:25] <asep> help..
[04:25] <Nutubuntu> asep, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, I believe
[04:25] <Genar1> hey people
[04:25] <asep> thanx i'll ry
[04:25] <iTurtle> Abiword, Gnumeric, and Criawips are the whole GNOME office suite, right?
[04:26] <chadeldridge> the_undefined:  look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279371
[04:26] <cwillu> AaronCampbell;  I'm heading off, but if you don't get it figured out, I'd suggest physically pulling all the cards except for one ethernet, and going from there;  it looks like the wireless card might be interferring (or some software for it), but I can't say for sure
[04:26] <cwillu> ttyalll
[04:26] <Nutubuntu> asep, check first ... I haven't built a server myself, or installed ubuntu-desktop on a CLI box
[04:26] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: ok will have a look
[04:26] <the_undefined> chadeldridge: thx
[04:26] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: any ideas? i'm searching on google
[04:26] <chadeldridge> Horizon:  i wish i knew what to tell you .. at this point you might be better off reinstalling ... something is missing from your install that might be really hard to track down
[04:27] <chadeldridge> sorry
[04:27] <Genar1> does anybody here uses geforce2 integrated video?
[04:27] <iTurtle> HorizonXP: If you have your original Live CD, I know it has a "Recover Broken System" option
[04:27] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[04:27] <okay> hi
[04:27] <chadeldridge> whats your question genar1 ?
[04:27] <hanson> hello
[04:27] <HorizonXP> iTurtle: I do have my live CD, that's what I'll do then
[04:27] <HorizonXP> off i go!
[04:27] <Mc5ive> are there any Cedega pro's here?
[04:27] <iTurtle> Abiword, Gnumeric, and Criawips are the whole GNOME office suite, right?
[04:27] <Nutubuntu> I'm used to Gnome and want to try KDE. On my new box I installed Kubuntu, then after a day or two of playing with KDE, I installed gnome-desktop. Thought I'd have a prompt at login for which session to start ... I don't, and I have a weird mix of the Gnome desktop and the Kubuntu apps. How do I get a one-or-the-other choice?
[04:28] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: Choose your session from login.
[04:28] <RivaeAerya> Hello. I have a little problem. I have to run the resolution "1440x900" at 60hz, but the dpkg-reconfigure tool lists 1440x900 at 100hz. How do i get that resolution? when i run that resolution text becomes blurry and parts of the screen are missing
[04:28] <DGMurdockIII> Is there a way to just install the Ubuntu os with no software but with the package manager so i can Pick witch software i want to install
[04:28] <Nutubuntu> iTurtle,  that's the problem: there is no prompt for choosing session at login. (No data is on the new box, and I can reinstall if necessary. )
[04:29] <Genar1> chadeldridge: how can i install the nvidia driver correctly? when i install it, using the restricted drive manager, or even envy, the screen gets really unstable, with some glitches
[04:29] <chadeldridge> RivaeAerya:  I would edit the xorg.conf file directly to replace that 100 with a 60
[04:29] <craigbass1976> Nutubuntu, I dont think you do choose.  Whether or not you use GNOME or KDE, you're going to see Kate in the menu somewhere, and there's some other apps.  Is that what you're talkign about?
[04:29] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: there should be a little "Options" button, in which you'd select your session....
[04:29] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: but where is that entry?
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> DGMurdockIII: i don't think so, but it is easy to uninstall everything you don't want.
[04:29] <greyfrog> DGMurdockIII, I think theres an alternate install disc that lets you do that...
[04:29] <chadeldridge> RivaeAerya:  /etc/X11/
[04:29] <chadeldridge> xorg.conf
[04:29] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: yes, but where..
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> greyfrog: no, the Alt. Install still installs a base of programs by default
[04:29] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: in that file
[04:29] <chadeldridge> RivaeAerya:  Search the file for it its in there
[04:29] <MistaED> hey all, it's quite crazy seeing 3 via unichrome drivers, which would you's recommend? xorg mainline, openchrome or via official? i've been hacking away with the last one but i can't seem to finish compiling it 100%
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> Totem, Gaim, etc..
[04:30] <greyfrog> DGMurdockIII, ahh...
[04:30] <iTurtle> Abiword, Gnumeric, and Criawips are the whole GNOME office suite, right?
[04:30] <DGMurdockIII> where do i get the alternate install disc and how big is it?
[04:30] <iTurtle> !gnome-office
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <chadeldridge> Genar1:  Download the newest linux drivers from nvidia ... drop to say console2, do a sudo killall gdm, then install the linux nvida drivers ... reboot ... voila
[04:30] <darius> RivaeAerya: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look under "screen"
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> DGMurdockIII: the alternate install is still going to install a fair amount of software(about the same amount as the live cd)
[04:30] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: it's not in there
[04:30] <Nutubuntu> craigbass1976,  no ... I understand that installed apps are always going to be there ... it's the desktop itself that puzzles me. iTurtle, I'm seeing a Kubuntu login screen, no options button, and a Gnome desktop. Plus no shutdown button when I try to shutdown from the menu, I forgot about that. Been running 'sudo shutdown now' instead.
[04:30] <greyfrog> DGMurdockIII, IndyGunFreak is probably right... it still installs some progrs... I think it's less though
[04:30] <RivaeAerya> darius: no refresh rate there
[04:31] <chadeldridge> ahh .. you need the line to add it ?
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> greyfrog: no, it installs the same ones as the live CD.. exactly the same actually
[04:31] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: yes
[04:31] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: do you want to keep KDE?
[04:31] <Nutubuntu> DGMurdockIII,  the alternate install cd is about 695MB.
[04:31] <greyfrog> IndyGunFreak, the only difference being the install environment?
[04:32] <darius> RivaeAerya: does it havea selection of resolutions? refresh rate should come before
[04:32] <chadeldridge> are you using nvidia ricaeaerya ?
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> greyfrog: pretty much.
[04:32] <RivaeAerya> darius: yes
[04:32] <Tom47> iTurtle http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/
[04:32] <greyfrog> IndyGunFreak, learn something new everyday ;)
[04:32] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: ATI Radeon 9250. Open-source drivers
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> greyfrog: the text installer, will work a little better if you have some goofy hardware, etc.
[04:32] <iTurtle> Tom47, thanks
[04:32] <alesan>  a friend of mine seem to have shutdown its laptop in a bad way and now when he tries to open adept he gets the message that the pkg db is locked.
[04:32] <alesan> what to do to get it online :)
[04:32] <chadeldridge> argh .. i remember you from yesterday now
[04:32] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: do you want to keep KDE?
[04:32] <Nutubuntu> iTurtle, I think I'd like to keep KDE but not sure yet ... never worked in it before. I've been using Ubuntu for a couple years now, so I'm used to Gnome.
[04:32] <chadeldridge> that Ati card still giving you fits ?
[04:32] <RivaeAerya> chadeldridge: yes :(
[04:33] <greyfrog> IndyGunFreak, yeah, I thought it was more like the debian installer, where you can basically set up a system with a very base amount of progs... guess not though
[04:33] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: then try installing Ubuntu (with GNOME) and then use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to have a separate KDE session
[04:33] <chadeldridge> well .. here are the 2 lines you might need .. change the values as needed
[04:33] <chadeldridge>     HorizSync     31-101     VertRefresh    60-160
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> greyfrog: nope... its really more for pc's that for whatever reason, can't get the Live CD to work.
[04:33] <darius> rivaeaerya: refresg rate should come under "moniter" as vertical and horizontal
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> or if you need to install grub to an alternate location
[04:33] <RivaeAerya> darius:
[04:33] <RivaeAerya> 	HorizSync	30-81
[04:33] <RivaeAerya> 	VertRefresh	56-75
[04:33] <chadeldridge>     HorizSync     31-101     VertRefresh    60-160
[04:33] <chadeldridge> yep
[04:34] <chadeldridge> sorry mine keeps putting them on 1 line
[04:34] <chadeldridge> but yet
[04:34] <chadeldridge> yes
[04:34] <Nutubuntu> iTurtle,  that'll work? I did that sequence of steps, only I installed Kubuntu and used aptitude to install ubuntu-desktop ... and didn't get the two separated
[04:34] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: I believe it should work... hold on a bit.....
[04:34] <chadeldridge> RivaeAerya:  here is a guide:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:34] <RivaeAerya> darius: i think the refresh rate's okay, then..
[04:34] <chadeldridge> see you all later
[04:35] <darius> RivaeAerya: what card are you using?
[04:35] <phil_> hello everybody, am I in the right place to ask about the ubuntu LAMP server?
[04:35] <swanberg-UMN> anyone have time for what is probably a simple Java question?
[04:35] <iTurtle> Nutubuntu: do a synaptic package manager search for "KDE" and "kubuntu desktop"
[04:35] <Nutubuntu> !ask
[04:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:35] <iTurtle> !server | phil_
[04:35] <ubotu> phil_: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:36] <Nutubuntu> iTurtle,  will do
[04:36] <phil_> ace, thanks for that : )
[04:36] <swanberg-UMN> I'm trying to install ACM (advanced clipboard manager), because I like it better than glipper.  It needs JRE6.0 or greater to run. What's the easiest way to get that?
[04:36] <asep> it means impossible to get gui on ubuntu feisty server?
[04:36] <iTurtle> !GUI
[04:36] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[04:36] <Agip> it's gutsy alpha?
[04:36] <redmonkey> hi! does anyone know a game like frozenbubble that you can control with the mouse?
[04:37] <iTurtle> !ubuntu +1
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu +1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <iTurtle> Agip: join #ubuntu+1 for questions on gutsy
[04:37] <iTurtle> ;)
[04:37] <Agip> k
[04:37] <Lacrymology> both armagetron and Lincity-NG have crashed my X at shutdown
[04:38] <iTurtle> !X
[04:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:38] <iTurtle> !X | Lacrymology
[04:38] <ubotu> Lacrymology: please see above
[04:38] <asep> what kind server with gui that i can use with ubuntu 7.04
[04:38] <iTurtle> !server | asep
[04:38] <ubotu> asep: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:38] <MrKeuner> hi, my battery is old. A minute after ubuntu warns me that I have 10 min left, my system shuts itself down. How can I change the timing of the warning, to let's say 20 mins before shutdown
[04:38] <swanberg-UMN> I'm unsure if I can just install gappletviewer or similar, or if I need to instsall a full version of Java.
[04:38] <fnf> MrKeuner: gnome-power-properties
[04:39] <greyfrog> asep, just install the server apps you want on the desktop ubuntu install
[04:39] <iTurtle> MrKeuner: or System>Preferences>Power Management
[04:39] <fnf> MrKeuner: -power-preferences
[04:39] <greyfrog> asep, usually not a good idea to have a gui on a server accesible to he internet though
[04:39] <iTurtle> greyfrog: why's that?
[04:39] <MrKeuner> fnf: I checked that but could not see any settings there related to this
[04:40] <greyfrog> iTurtle, any flaw in any extra prog can be exploited
[04:40] <fnf> MrKeuner: Sure you will see it, please recheck.
[04:40] <iTurtle> greyfrog, oh... I see...
[04:40] <benkong2> ! repos
[04:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:40] <fnf> MrKeuner: What are in the 'On Battery Power' tab ?
[04:40] <asep> thank for your advices coz i am new comer on linux world
[04:41] <alesan> any idea on how to remove the lock of the package database?
[04:41] <petal> Unplugging a USB-device or Notify-PopUp-bubbles wake up my laptop from hibernation. Tried to google it - but there are too many other hibernation-problems to get lucky ... Any pointers? Thanks!
[04:41] <MrKeuner> fnf: 5 settings. all irrevelant
[04:41] <fnf> alesan: delete the lock file in the package cache directory.
[04:41] <mat1980> alesan: is synaptic or apt-get running?
[04:42] <benkong2> hey all where is the medibuntu repo located
[04:42] <greyfrog> alesan, are you using sudo when you run?
[04:42] <fnf> MrKeuner: there are 4 settings, and 'When battery power is critically low' is relevant. But there're a few items you need to configure in gconf-editor for this to work.
[04:43] <greyfrog> !medibuntu | benkong2
[04:43] <ubotu> benkong2: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:43] <swanberg-UMN> no takers on java?
[04:43] <benkong2> k thanks
[04:43] <MrKeuner> fnf: so it's the gconf-editor I need. OK thank you
[04:43] <alesan> fnf, but on another computer the lock file IS there but everythin'gs ok
[04:43] <alesan> mat1980, it seems not. this is after a crash
[04:44] <alesan> greyfrog, I call adept (kubuntu's version of synaptic) from the manu
[04:44] <alesan> menu
[04:44] <fnf> alesan: the lock file might have invalid time stamp or owner. Try deleting it, it will be recreated the next time.
[04:44] <alesan> fnf ok.
[04:44] <HorizonXP> hey
[04:44] <HorizonXP> i'm in the Feisty live CD
[04:44] <HorizonXP> how do I repair my installation?
[04:45] <greyfrog> alesan, I see... fnf is right on.
[04:45] <HorizonXP> i basically just want to reinstall every package
[04:45] <God> Hey
[04:45] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  do you have any data on that drive you need anymore ?
[04:45] <Nano-rosario> Can anyone help me instaling ubuntu 7.04 whitout londing live?
[04:45] <fnf> HorizonXP: what was broken in your old installation ?
[04:45] <chadeldridge> HorizonXP:  cause if not ... just do the install and start over
[04:45] <mat1980> HorizonXP: why you do not reinstall it?
[04:45] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: kinda.... I have it saved on my SVN server, but it'll be apain to redownload it all again
[04:45] <God> was wonderin if someone could help me, i changed my hostname today and it seems to have messed up my internet on my ubuntu machine
[04:46] <calc> HorizonXP: probably something like: dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 | xargs apt-get install
[04:46] <chadeldridge> his install was pooched ... ubuntu-desktop hosed and his reinstall failed miserably
[04:46] <aurynn> When did the migration assistant get added? That was pretty damn cool
[04:46] <HorizonXP> i uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, reinstalled, and some programs wouldn't run
[04:46] <calc> HorizonXP: that may not work as is, but it is fairly close
[04:46] <alesan> fnf, greyfrog is it possible to delete a file from the GUI being asked the root password?
[04:46] <HorizonXP> calc: run that from the livecd?
[04:46] <pihus> how can I install gnome-volume-control?
[04:47] <God> anyone able to help me out?
[04:47] <calc> HorizonXP: hmm no you can't run that from a livecd, sorry :\
[04:47] <calc> HorizonXP: if all you did was uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package that shouldn't have hurt anything
[04:47] <HorizonXP> calc: I can boot my install, i just don't think that'll work
[04:47] <HorizonXP> calc: yeah, that's what I thought, but obviously something else messed up
[04:47] <fnf> alesan: it is a suggested feature.
[04:48] <HorizonXP> fudge
[04:48] <HorizonXP> aiight
[04:48] <chadeldridge> calc ... i think he is missing some dependancies for ubuntu
[04:48] <HorizonXP> i'm gonna do a clean instal
[04:48] <chadeldridge> but i couldnt figure it out
[04:48] <calc> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package (afaik)
[04:48] <HorizonXP> i don't have time to futz around with this
[04:48] <The_Viper> How do i browse the shares on a windows xp computer in my network?
[04:48] <chadeldridge> yeah .. like i said, probably easier to reinstall
[04:48] <HorizonXP> ok
[04:48] <HorizonXP> i'm off
[04:48] <HorizonXP> thanks guys
[04:48] <calc> hmm yea it is, so if you only uninstalled that and it broke the system you have other issues like hardware issues or something
[04:48] <chadeldridge> sorry was no help
[04:48] <HorizonXP> yeah no worries
[04:48] <HorizonXP> my own fault
[04:48] <HorizonXP> see ya
[04:49] <TurtleBoots> hi folks
[04:49] <fnf> The_Viper: most major file managers support this, but it depends on each one how you will get to the shared.
[04:49] <Nano-rosario> it's posible to instal ubuntu 7.04 whithout londing live? i need to do it becouse I'm trying to instal it on a AMD sempron 1.6 ghz with 224 mb RAm so it hang up londing Gnome
[04:49] <TurtleBoots> has anyone experienced ktorrent randomly dying after a few hours
[04:50] <TurtleBoots> join ktorrrent
[04:50] <fnf> Nano-rosario: try the Alternate CD.
[04:50] <HorizonXP> hey
[04:50] <HorizonXP> back agin
[04:50] <fable> jo
[04:50] <HorizonXP> quick question
[04:50] <chadeldridge> shoot
[04:50] <HorizonXP> i'm in the installer
[04:50] <The_Viper> fnf: thanks, the bitch had a blocked me in the firewall :)
[04:50] <fable> hello
[04:50] <TurtleBoots> !ktoorrent
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktoorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <HorizonXP> i have two chunks of free space, 1 15GB, other 6GB
[04:50] <HorizonXP> how do I combine them?
[04:50] <TurtleBoots> !ktorrent
[04:50] <chadeldridge> gparted
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <chadeldridge> should be installed in the live cd
[04:51] <chadeldridge> or during the installer ... choose manual partitioning
[04:51] <chadeldridge> and do it then
[04:51] <Sabe> I have one ATI onboard, one NVIDIA offboard and two LCD Samsung monitors. They work together under windows, but under Linux I can only make one of them work at a time, indicating that the drivers are working properly. However I can't get the configuration right to make them both work at the same time. The xorg.conf is this: http://rafb.net/p/Ff5iRW61.html . I tried #xorg but nobody knows, can someone please help?
[04:51] <Nano-rosario> fnf: thanks I'm downloing it but i'ts no posible instaling thougt the console?
[04:51] <HorizonXP> i am doing manual partitioning
[04:51] <greg_g> how do you make ubotu search ubuntu packages?
[04:51] <chadeldridge> you have to delete them both
[04:51] <chadeldridge> and make a new one with the free space
[04:51] <HorizonXP> but see
[04:51] <fnf> Nano-rosario: an Alternate CD has the option to install from the console, and also the Server CD.
[04:51] <HorizonXP> it's already free space
[04:52] <HorizonXP> there's two chunks of free space
[04:52] <chadeldridge> 2 drives or just 2 partitions ?
[04:52] <HorizonXP> it won't let me make a partition bigger than one of those chunks
[04:52] <HorizonXP> 2 paritions
[04:52] <HorizonXP> in the installer, here's the order (swap, 6gb freespace, ntfs, 15gb freespace, /home)
[04:53] <Nano-rosario> fnf: thanks fnf! good bye
[04:53] <alesan> is it possible to understand which application does have a lock on the dpkg database? I want to be sure before I delete the lock file
[04:53] <HorizonXP> because of that ntfs paritition, it won't let me create a 21gb partition
[04:53] <chadeldridge> you need the ntfs partition ?
[04:53] <fnf> alesan: Try the GNOME System Monitor, or lsof
[04:53] <alesan> fnf, lsof on the "lock" file in /var/lib/dpkg ?
[04:53] <Cement_> Anyone knows how to lowert your fans in ubuntu? some program?
[04:54] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: it's Vista, what came with the laptop...
[04:54] <HorizonXP> chadeldridge: aiight, i'll blow it away
[04:54] <HorizonXP> i was hoping not to
[04:54] <Cement_> Anyone knows how to lower your fans in ubuntu? some program?
[04:54] <fnf> alesan: lsof == list open(ed) file, you can search or grep through the results
[04:54] <Nutubuntu> I'm trying to find an iso of the Ubuntu Feisty install that downloads everything, instead of installing from CD. Where is that found?
[04:54] <chadeldridge> gparted cant create a single partition from noncontiguous free space sections ... you would have to move that vista part to either the front or end of the drive to create a partition of all that free space
[04:54] <mrsn0> nutterpc you would like the net instal image?
[04:54] <troopperi> Cement_: sudo sensors-detect
[04:54] <mrsn0> err Nutubuntu even sorry
[04:55] <alesan> fnf, I know lfsof, I may be an ubuntu beginner but a long-time Unix user :)
[04:55] <troopperi> Cement_: first install lm-sensors
[04:55] <fnf> alesan: well then what are you waiting for ;) man pages it away.
[04:55] <Cement_> troopperi: How do I use that?
[04:55] <Nutubuntu> mrsn0,  I understood -- but you're a faster keyboarder than I am :) . Yes, that is what I'm looking for.
[04:55] <alesan> fnf, lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock shoud return the program that "has the lock"
[04:55] <mrsn0> ok one sec Nutubuntu , i believe they are _somewhere_
[04:56] <alesan> fnf, I don't understand why I should grep the result ?
[04:56] <Lacrymology> my nvidia kernel module seems not to be loaded, even tho apt tells me it's installed
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> t/y, mrsn0
[04:56] <alesan> oh perhaps you mean lsof | grep something?
[04:56] <v> Guys is switching to gentoo hard?
[04:56] <Lacrymology> how do I do this?
[04:56] <fnf> alesan: I normally find which files a process has opened so I just invoke 'lsof' alone, your usage may vary.
[04:56] <calc> v: depends on your skill level, i think there is a gentoo channel
[04:57] <mike__> Hi, I'm trying to get Beryl to work on Ubutu,  have 3 missed dependancies though
[04:57] <mike__> not sure how to get them
[04:57] <fnf> alesan: just a habit,
[04:57] <mike__> beryl-plugins
[04:57] <alesan> fnf, ok sure :) thank you!
[04:57] <Lacrymology> v define hard. It's fun, but it'll take you a while, probably. You'll learn a lot about your linux
[04:57] <troopperi> Cement_: do you install lm-sensors
[04:57] <Dimensions> how do i change privileges for a user in ubuntu via terminal ... if i want to give full root privileges  ??
[04:57] <mike__> libemeraldegin0, libberyldecoration0
[04:57] <calc> v: if you want to learn more about linux i would recommend using LFS instead
[04:58] <kdubois_> mike, 'apt-get beryl' is a metapackage that should include all needed beryl plugins
[04:58] <kdubois_> mike__, ^
[04:58] <ciro_> !ati
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <calc> v: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[04:58] <The_Viper> Doesnt Nautilus support resuming of file transfers?
[04:58] <troopperi> Cement_: then type on command line sudo sensors-detect and answer any questions "yes"
[04:59] <mrsn0> Nutubuntu sorry that took so long, its the minimal cd they call it on ubuntu :) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:59] <mike__> kdu, ty, but i'm getting an invalid operation
[04:59] <fnf> The_Viper: I don't think it does, if you want that feature, try wget.
[04:59] <Dimensions> hiya how do i give root privileges to a user via terminal ??
[04:59] <Nutubuntu> mrsn0,  t/y very much :)
[04:59] <troopperi> Cement_: restart your computer
[05:00] <mrsn0> your welcome Nutubuntu
[05:00] <Nutubuntu> Later, all :)
[05:00] <Cement_> troopperi: w8 I havent installed ubuntu yet ;)
[05:00] <mrsn0> cya hf
[05:00] <troopperi> Cement_: ok
[05:00] <The_Viper> fnf: can wget copy files locally?
[05:00] <Dimensions> hiya how do i give root privileges to a user via terminal ??
[05:00] <mike__> E: Invalid operation beryl
[05:01] <HorizonXP> ok
[05:01] <HorizonXP> it's a good thing i created a seperate home partition
[05:01] <ferronica> i have two computers both of them having separate net connection of same ISP, now i want to connect my PC to another PC directly . Is it possible in ubuntu 7.04
[05:01] <dragonmc> hey guys, i downloaded kde via synaptic.  how do i switch from gnome to kde with ubuntu?
[05:01] <HorizonXP> i won't be losing my documents in this reinstall then
[05:01] <fnf> The_Viper: I just checked it, wget doesn't support the 'file:///' protocol, my bad.
[05:02] <joetheodd> After installing Java5, how do I use it to run a CLASS file?
[05:02] <Dimensions> hiya how do i give full privileges to a user via terminal (rwx ) ??
[05:03] <fnf> The_Viper: that 'feature' doesn't seem to be very useful with local file anyway, in the worst case, you may end up with half-assed source and destination files.
[05:04] <The_Viper> fnf: what if i had a kind of rollback, witch went back 10 kb when resuming?
[05:04] <v> Can someone answer a quick question
[05:04] <gordonjcp> v: don't ask to ask
[05:04] <v> Atm, is there anypoint in going x86_64 over i386?
[05:04] <v> With linux in general
[05:04] <The_Viper> i'll try to implement this myself
[05:04] <mike__> what is the interface channel name?
[05:04] <v> Cause not alot is compatable
[05:04] <gordonjcp> v: if you're a developer, yes
[05:04] <v> why's that?
[05:05] <The_Viper> fnf: and if we afterwards did a crc check then it should be pretty safe i think :)
[05:05] <fnf> The_Viper: I'd think about forking the 'cp' command, would take less than 30 mins I suppose ;) .
[05:06] <fnf> The_Viper: j/k :p
[05:06] <The_Viper> hehe
[05:07] <joetheodd> Does anyone here know how to use Sun Java? At all?
[05:08] <eljak> joetheodd, use it for what ?
[05:08] <joetheodd> eljak: Running Java classes..
[05:08] <ndee> is there an archive program for gnome, which let's me drag & drop files that are in an archive?
[05:09] <x2Fusion> Hello, I'm trying to get my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter running on my install but I'm having several problems so I've come here to see if I can sort them out.
[05:09] <x2Fusion> Okay, I've installed ndiswrapper-utils and also used the drivers from the CD of my USB Adapter it all seems to be working and all I used the 'System > Administration > Networking' to configure the thing but when I do the command 'ifdown wlan0' then 'ifup wlan0' I get stuck with an error that the Encoder or something and the WEP is not found or something which it should be as it was the system that set it.
[05:09] <x2Fusion> If anybody can please help me that would be nice.
[05:09] <eljak> joetheodd, did you install it?
[05:09] <TheCougar> any one know of a list of gps receivers that work with ubuntu? I am thinking about getting a navibe GM720
[05:09] <joetheodd> eljak: Yeah. What's the command to run it, though?
[05:10] <mylogic> Work is overly boring today
[05:10] <sek> anyone know where i can buy i tux
[05:10] <x2Fusion> Anyone read what I just said?
[05:10] <sek> no you better ask again
[05:10] <x2Fusion> lolz, I'll just paste it again :)
[05:10] <x2Fusion> Hello, I'm trying to get my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter running on my install but I'm having several problems so I've come here to see if I can sort them out.
[05:10] <x2Fusion> Okay, I've installed ndiswrapper-utils and also used the drivers from the CD of my USB Adapter it all seems to be working and all I used the 'System > Administration > Networking' to configure the thing but when I do the command 'ifdown wlan0' then 'ifup wlan0' I get stuck with an error that the Encoder or something and the WEP is not found or something which it should be as it was the system that set it.
[05:11] <x2Fusion> If anybody can please help me that would be nice.
[05:11] <pha|con> heh
[05:11] <pha|con> !patience
[05:11] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:11] <eljak> joetheodd, there is the javac compiler and the java command to run the compiled file
[05:11] <joetheodd> eljak: java points to gcj, though.
[05:12] <ferronica> i have two computers both of them having separate net connection of same ISP, now i want to connect my PC to another PC directly . Is it possible in ubuntu 7.04
[05:12] <joetheodd> eljak: Or gij, whichever.
[05:12] <mike__> How do I tell if I'm running Feisty?
[05:12] <swanberg-UMN> how would I upgrade 1.5.0_11 java to 1.6 on Feisty?
[05:12] <joetheodd> mike__: I think uname -a will tell you. I'm not sure, I'm on my Windows machine.
[05:12] <aleksanteri> how to know what network adapter i have?
[05:12] <mike__> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:12] <joetheodd> swanberg-UMN: I believe sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin would do it.
[05:12] <eifzon> Why cant i listen to webradio's ?
[05:13] <TheCougar> ferret: depends on how you are wanting to connect them. I would recommend highly that you have a router and share the net connection between them. this will also create the conditions for an internal network where you can share files
[05:13] <snowblink> mike__, lsb_release -a
[05:13] <joetheodd> mike__: Oh, my bad.
[05:13] <swanberg-UMN> joetheodd: cool, I'll try that.
[05:13] <KNY> where do I put start-up splash screens? (the Ubuntu logo with the loading bar)
[05:13] <TheCougar> sorry that was for ferronica
[05:13] <mike__> Breezy
[05:13] <mike__> :o
[05:13] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: Type lspci in a console, anmd it'll list a bunch of devices in your box. One should be your network card.
[05:13] <likwidtek> sup guys, anyone use wubi-installer?  If so... you still have to reboot to switch operating systems correct?
[05:13] <mike__> what is the easiest way to upgrade?
[05:13] <aleksanteri> ok thanks
[05:13] <mike__> thank you joe :)
[05:14] <joetheodd> mike__: just a sec, I'll find the wikipage
[05:14] <dyrne> !update | mike__
[05:14] <ubotu> mike__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:14] <joetheodd> mike__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[05:14] <joetheodd> ew, no, that's not it
[05:14] <mike__> thank you joe :)
[05:14] <joetheodd> er, yes it is :P
[05:14] <joetheodd> np mike__
[05:14] <pha|con> mike__: if you're using breezy the least painful route would be do a fresh install
[05:14] <mike__> heeh oh pha
[05:14] <Floble> j #java.de
[05:15] <mike__> I'll do that :OP
[05:15] <mike__> oh well
[05:15] <mike__> nothing on here
[05:15] <sek> did you know so called volunteers dont even get paid
[05:15] <pha|con> mike__: or you can always do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <eljak> joetheodd, those are 3rd party versions of java they are not sun java
[05:15] <joetheodd> pha|con The one after breezy is a LTS though, so it's not exactly "painful" to just stick dapper
[05:15] <markvp> Anyone have time to help get his wireless working on a new install of Ubuntu Feisty?
[05:15] <joetheodd> eljak: Yeah, I know. Do I have to uninstall gcj to get sun java to work?
[05:16] <likwidtek> anyone use wubi-installer?
[05:16] <ferronica> TheCougar: I have already two net connection
[05:16] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: can't find the adapter from there
[05:16] <strato> hi guys .. what is the difference beetween beryl and compiz?
[05:16] <courageousrobot> Here's a question... when I'm ssh'ing to my server at home, I can auto-complete by pressing TAB. That doesnt seem to work when using sftp... is there a way to do it with sftp?
[05:16] <ferronica> TheCougar: Is there anyway to connect directly via IP address
[05:16] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: Can you pastebin the output? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:16] <Yggdrasil> can somone tell me how to restore grub after a windows install , dual boot ?
[05:17] <neverblue> how can I find out what file type something is in /dev ?
[05:17] <eljak> joetheodd, no just run the command using the path to sun java or change your JAVAHOME to point to sun java
[05:17] <TheCougar> ferronica: you mean a ethernet cable between the two computers without a switch or router?
[05:17] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26610/
[05:17] <joetheodd> Yggdrasil: This is probably more painful than you need it to be, but you could go to the grub page and download a live CD installer.
[05:17] <ferronica> TheCougar: no
[05:17] <joetheodd> eljak: How do I do that?
[05:17] <kgreen> hello
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> nah theres seomthing like boot live cd then grub-install
[05:18] <TheCougar> ferronica: you mean connect directly over the internet then?
[05:18] <Yggdrasil> ill find it
[05:18] <pha|con> neverblue:  there generally aren't files in /dev
[05:18] <dyrne> strato: the definition is changing a bit. beryl and compiz are joining. bascially beryl took the copiz stuff and made it a little slicker. its mostly compiz code. compiz pretty much caught up though..
[05:18] <ferronica> TheCougar: yes
[05:18] <kgreen> can someone anser a quick question I have about vnc
[05:18] <TheCougar> ferronica: a virtual private network would be the best way most likely
[05:18] <neverblue> i have a /dev/sda and I want to mount it
[05:18] <aleksanteri> !ask | kgreen
[05:18] <ubotu> kgreen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:18] <TheCougar> ferronica: i do not know how to set that up in any linux though:-/
[05:18] <markvp> Anyone out there that can help with a wireless setup?  I'm very familiar with networking enviroment.  Just can't get the network-manager in ubunutu to search for available networks.
[05:18] <neverblue> pha|con, but in fstab I need to put its type
[05:18] <strato> dyrne, so what do u suggest me to install?
[05:18] <ferronica> TheCougar: ok
[05:18] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: Is your ethernet port integrated on your motherboard, or in a PCI slot?
[05:18] <likwidtek> sup guys, anyone use wubi-installer?  If so... you still have to reboot to switch operating systems correct?
[05:18] <pha|con> neverblue: /dev/sda is what linux calls your hard drive or cdrom...
[05:19] <courageousrobot> Is there a way to auto-complete files or directories using sftp? Like when you press tab in the shell?
[05:19] <ferronica> TheCougar: virtual private network will work ?
[05:19] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: i don't know
[05:19] <kgreen> okay, I ssh into my ubuntu box and run vncserver from the command line. Then on my windows box i use tightvnc to connect, but all i see is the background and the cursor. no icons or interface. how can i fix this?
[05:19] <TheCougar> ferronica: very much so
[05:19] <pha|con> neverblue: you need to know the partition number and what type of filesystem it uses before you can mount it
[05:19] <dyrne> neverblue: youwant to mount a partition of sda so for the first partition sudo mkdir /mnt/something; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/something
[05:19] <neverblue> pha|con, yes, an a HD or CD/DVDrom has a filetype
[05:19] <ferronica> TheCougar: okay
[05:19] <jshow> I'm looking at deploying Dapper to a Dell PE830. any watch-outs? ++'s? --'s? (thanx)
[05:19] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: If you look on the back of your box, is the port in an expansion card slot, or in the other row of ports (IE, keyboard, mouse, USB, etc)?
[05:19] <dyrne> strato: im not sure with ubuntu if i were you id type /join #ubuntu-effects and ask in that channel which is easiest
[05:19] <neverblue> dyrne, no filetype/flags necessary?
[05:20] <dyrne> neverblue: depends but normally defautl is auto these days
[05:20] <ferronica> TheCougar: who knows here then any idea??
[05:20] <neverblue> k
[05:20] <TheCougar> no idea
[05:20] <joetheodd> neverblue: Type man mount in a console to see various options. I'm not sure exactly how it's arguments are used -- it's been a while, but that's the program you want.
[05:20] <kgreen> *okay, I ssh into my ubuntu box and run vncserver from the command line. Then on my windows box i use tightvnc to connect, but all i see is the background and the cursor. no icons or interface. how can i fix this?*
[05:20] <strato> dyrne, tnx a lot
[05:20] <markvp> Anyone out there that can help with a wireless setup?  I'm very familiar with networking enviroment.  Just can't get the network-manager in ubunutu to search for available networks.
[05:20] <mylogic> jshow: not familiar with that model, could you list out it's specs?
[05:20] <coverup> hello all, can anyone help me troubleshoot my pcmcia usb 2.0 cardbus on feisty?
[05:21] <pha|con> neverblue: usually it can autodetect the filesystem, but if it's not a CD/DVD rom you have to have a partition number, i.e., /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda3
[05:21] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: it's within the other row of ports
[05:21] <jshow> mylogic: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe830/en/ug/index.htm
[05:21] <Tremitos> hello
[05:21] <neverblue> i need to specify the type
[05:21] <dyrne> neverblue: now the fs will determine what options to use. for instalnce ntfs youd do mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda /mnt/foo   <-- that isnt kosher but will work the umask just sets perm so that all users can read not just sudo/root
[05:21] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: Okay, then it's integrated. That's rather weird then that it doesn't show up..
[05:21] <neverblue> 3 ppl telling me different things :)
[05:21] <frojnd> would anyone know why if I listen to music in amarok, and than pause it and open xmms and there start some other music, and than pause it in xmms and resume it in amarok now in amarok music won't that loud but silent... that just weird. Can someone tell me how to fix this
[05:21] <jshow> mylogic: with the Pentium 4
[05:21] <pha|con> neverblue: what kind of filesystem is the disk?
[05:21] <eljak> joetheodd, like for example /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javac source_file.java or #export JAVA_HOME='/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javac' depending on where you java is installed
[05:21] <x2Fusion> lol, I use a pentium 2
[05:21] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: Oh! 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[05:21] <x2Fusion> o_O
[05:21] <Tremitos> good
[05:21] <markvp> Anyone out there that can help with a wireless setup?  I'm very familiar with the networking enviroment.  Just can't get the network-manager in ubunutu to search for available networks.
[05:22] <neverblue> pha|con, not sure if I have to repeat myself
[05:22] <Music_Shuffle> frojnd, turn the volume up in XMMS and then hit play in Amarok again...?
[05:22] <TheCougar> ok how about the SiRF Star III GPS chipset does that work in linux? as in if i get any GPS receiver with that chip will I be able to get it working?
[05:22] <the_undefined> pha|con: I made progress with my internet setup
[05:22] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: yeah just saw it myself as well
[05:22] <Bonzodog> frojnd: because only one audio program can use the sound device at a time
[05:22] <the_undefined> pha|con: DNS is now working on my ubuntu box
[05:22] <kgreen> heeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[05:22] <neverblue> pha|con, but my original question might give you a hint :)
[05:22] <the_undefined> pha|con: i.e. net lookup www.google.com works
[05:22] <kgreen> vnc doesnt display an interface! whats wrong
[05:22] <joetheodd> aleksanteri: heh. It's funny how that happens all the time. :P
[05:22] <aleksanteri> joetheodd: ok it's an nVIDIA adapter then
[05:22] <ferronica> any one tell me how to set up virtual private network on ubuntu 7.04?
[05:22] <x2Fusion> Yeah, I've had that problem with vnc
[05:22] <the_undefined> pha|con: however I can't ping / send data to any public web server, any idea?
[05:22] <milluska> hi there  i just installed one application and i would like to know how to create a shortcut for it?
[05:22] <kgreen> it just dispalys the background
[05:22] <mylogic> jshow: Not familar with that internal video card, you may want to check to see if it's supported
[05:23] <joetheodd> kgreen: I think it's not loading it's own X session. Try running vncserver from an already running X session on the box itself, then connecting and see if that works.
[05:23] <milluska> how do i do that?
[05:23] <markvp> Anyone out there that can help with a wireless setup?  I'm very familiar with the networking enviroment.  Just can't get the network-manager in ubunutu to search for available networks.
[05:23] <jshow> mylogic: roger that
[05:23] <neverblue> joetheodd and dyrne how do I see what file system type this /dev/sda is?
[05:23] <frojnd> Bonzodog: cool
[05:23] <frojnd> I mean not coll :)
[05:23] <ramatieg> Is there a command to do multi-destination cp? That is, if I want to copy a file to two (or more) different locations
[05:23] <coverup> neverblue: fdisk -l ?
[05:23] <pha|con> neverblue: cfdisk /dev/sda
[05:23] <x2Fusion> Is there anyone free to help? That isn't already helping if there isn't I'll be happy to wait :)
[05:23] <auk100> on ubuntu-server, where are the startup scripts located?
[05:23] <joetheodd> eljak: Alright, thanks. I gotta run soon and my box is off so I can't try it now, but thanks.
[05:23] <mylogic> jshow: everything else looks good, ubuntu's automated installer shouldn't have any prblems
[05:24] <swanberg-UMN> FYI, got my java thing working. Thanks!
[05:24] <Music_Shuffle> !ask | x2Fusion
[05:24] <ubotu> x2Fusion: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <mylogic> x2Fusion: what's your problem
[05:24] <neverblue> ouch
[05:24] <neverblue> my system didnt like cfdisk /dev/sda
[05:24] <x2Fusion> Okay, I wrote it in notepad so there is a big q
[05:24] <x2Fusion> I got this error when I did 'sudo ifdown wlan0' &/or 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[05:24] <x2Fusion> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[05:24] <x2Fusion>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[05:24] <x2Fusion> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[05:24] <x2Fusion>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[05:24] <x2Fusion> What I have in '/etc/network/interfaces' is the following
[05:24] <x2Fusion> auto wlan0
[05:24] <brinstar> i'm getting a " FATAL: Illegal card source line 'ipw2200,eth1' " and ive set this in the kismet.conf file -> source=ipw2200,eth1
[05:24] <x2Fusion> iface wlan0 inet static
[05:24] <x2Fusion> address 192.168.1.101
[05:24] <jshow> mylogic: good to hear.  thank you
[05:24] <aleksanteri> !paste | x2Fusion
[05:24] <ubotu> x2Fusion: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:24] <joetheodd> neverblue: What exactly is it? A CD-ROM drive, a hard drive, etc?
[05:24] <x2Fusion> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:24] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | x2Fusion
[05:24] <x2Fusion> gateway 192.168.1.1
[05:24] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol
[05:24] <x2Fusion> wireless-essid Wireless_Fusion
[05:24] <x2Fusion> wireless-key s:my-key
[05:24] <x2Fusion> lol, okay.
[05:24] <neverblue> its not listed infdisk (maybe because its not mounted?)
[05:25] <coverup> I am trying to get a pcmcia USB 2.0 adaptor to handle devices reliably... anyone out there with related knowledge?
[05:25] <brinstar> is it missing anything?
[05:25] <markvp> Anyone out there that can help with a wireless setup?  I'm very familiar with the networking enviroment.  Just can't get the network-manager in ubunutu to search for available networks.
[05:25] <jshow> mylogic: is there a compat test I can run on the video card?
[05:25] <brinstar> anyone know anything about kismet?
[05:25] <pha|con> neverblue: cfdisk is just a fancier version of fdisk, but if fdisk should list whatever disks are there whether they are mounted or not
[05:25] <pha|con> neverblue: it is a harddrive, right?  not a cd/dvd rom?
[05:25] <mylogic> jshow: give me a second and I will look up if that card is supported
[05:25] <x2Fusion> Here is that pastebin
[05:25] <x2Fusion> oop
[05:25] <x2Fusion> http://pastebin.com/933417
[05:26] <courageousrobot> Anyone here have any experience using yafc?
[05:26] <neverblue> well, I have a /dev/sda and its not listing with fdisk
[05:26] <joetheodd> markvp: I'm not sure, not using one myself, but Wireless in Linux is very flakey. You'll probably have to get a hold of someone on the forum who "specializes" in it. Most people just use wired, but I can understand not wanting to do that on a laptop :P
[05:26] <neverblue> i added another HD into my system, which has 3 partitions
[05:26] <markvp> joetheodd:  Thanks, been fighting this for over a day.
[05:27] <wols> markvp: what wlan chip do you have?
[05:27] <markvp> joetheodd:  getting tired of going from forum to forum.  Even did a reinstall.
[05:27] <brinstar> it depends on the wlan card
[05:27] <pha|con> nevermore: neverb: i'm assuming it's a sata drive?
[05:27] <joetheodd> markvp: Yeah, not much I can help with, not being able to test anything myself. Google search for "ndiswrapper" if you haven't, though.
[05:27] <markvp> wols:  bcm94306
[05:27] <brinstar> intel support is good
[05:27] <neverblue> can I take this into a pm, just so I dont have 20 answers :)
[05:27] <x2Fusion> Ah, btw mines a Belkin USB Adapter
[05:27] <joetheodd> markvp: Ubuntu forums should be your one-stop for this, hopefully.
[05:28] <wols> markvp: ndiswrapper I guess
[05:28] <markvp> joethodd:  that is what I thought to.
[05:28] <milluska> does anyone knows where can i get the firmware for bcm43xx?
[05:28] <nevermore> pha|con- what? I said something abotu taht like two months ago.
[05:28] <joetheodd> Alright guys. I've gotta head to work. Have a great day and don't kill anyone with the awesome penguin power. \m/
[05:28] <markvp> wols:  let me check, just did a reinstall to get a clean start.
[05:28] <wols> markvp: or is that a bcm4306? that exists too
[05:28] <milluska> i can't get my wireless to work but the distro can't find my wireless drivers
[05:28] <aleksanteri> bye joetheodd
[05:29] <aleksanteri> and thanks :)
[05:29] <pha|con> nevermore: sorry, wrong person :)
[05:29] <coverup> Anyone know about pcmcia cards / linux or am I better off on the forums? :)
[05:29] <x2Fusion> milluska: Try using ndiswrapper and find the windows version drivers for your card.
[05:29] <nevermore> pha|con: oh, okay
[05:29] <kgreen> how do i start the gnome user interface from commandline?
[05:29] <wols> milluska: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=fwcutter&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all  Use that to extract the firmware from your windows driver for the card
[05:30] <x2Fusion> Search for the wiki on ndiswrapper for more info on that.
[05:30] <markvp> wols:  when I do a lsmod I get bcm43xx
[05:30] <neverblue> pha|con, its not an SATA drive, ubuntu usually recognizes drives as /dev/sda*
[05:30] <wols> kgreen: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:30] <milluska> thx
[05:30] <wols> markvp: cool. so you already got it.
[05:30] <neverblue> even though they are not a Serial ATA drive, but an ATA drive
[05:30] <pha|con> neverblue: if it's not a SATA drive then it's probably an IDE drive which means it would be /dev/hda
[05:30] <ochosi> hi, i have a 120gb ext hdd from western digital, usb is also power supply. whenever i unmount and then unplug it it makes some strange stopping noise like in the current kernel bug for some laptop-hdds. anyone got an idea what this is or what to do about it?
[05:30] <wols> markvp: but lsmod is not the thing to check. lspci
[05:30] <x2Fusion> kgreen: You can use the command 'startx'
[05:30] <mylogic> jshow: looks like you're in the clear, it's supported just fine
[05:31] <kgreen> thanks
[05:31] <wols> neverblue: no. it depends on kernel. there are some (older) kernels with sata drivers that use hda. few tho
[05:31] <markvp> wols:  That does show the Broadcom BCM4306
[05:31] <pha|con> neverblue: generally linux will give sda to SCSI/SATA/USB drives
[05:31] <jshow> mylogic! thanx a bunch. where did you verify?
[05:31] <ghostt_user_2> if my lspci tells me this "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)" about  my video  (on a dell  inspiron 3800 laptop)  do I  use the  "ati" driver or  this  "xorg-driver-fglrx"?
[05:31] <neverblue> thats besides the point really
[05:31] <Ind[y] > The Keyring Manager keeps asking me the password each time I login, although I tried the tricks with the libpam-keyring I found on the web. What can I do? I want to get automatically connected to my wireless network.
[05:31] <wols> markvp: so you don't have a 94306 but a4306. ok that one is supported by that driver. have you installed firmware yet?
[05:31] <ioannis35> c.gr
[05:31] <pha|con> neverblue: no it's not, if you're using an IDE drive then you need to be mounting /dev/hd* not /dev/sd*
[05:32] <mylogic> jshow: a little good search for your card's name along with the phrase ubuntu sent me to websites and forums where people have haad success stories!
[05:32] <mylogic> err google*
[05:32] <markvp> wols:  the 94306 is what is on the physical card.  From what it looks like I thought the firmware was installed.
[05:32] <neverblue> i have no /dev/hda
[05:32] <markvp> wols:  how can I check?
[05:32] <neverblue> we are just going down a road which will not help
[05:32] <neverblue> thanks pha|con
[05:32] <wols> markvp: dmesg output please?
[05:32] <mylogic> neverblue: what about /dev/sda O.o
[05:33] <fuzzy> hi people.. how can i change the kernel module of my nvidia driver?
[05:33] <wols> neverblue: newer kernel use libata that means sda for all disks
[05:33] <jshow> mylogic: I was all over google, but with the Dell box name - no love. I'll go read some stories now. thanx again. :D
[05:33] <pha|con> neverblue: well, you're not being explicit in what sort of drive you have and what kind of filesystem it uses...
[05:33] <neverblue> mylogic, I have it, but i need to know what type it is to mount
[05:33] <wols> !nvidia | fuzzy
[05:33] <ubotu> fuzzy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <wols> markvp: dmesg. paste output to a pastebin
[05:33] <neverblue> pha|con, my first question was how do I find what type it is, and I have yet to see an answer to that question
[05:33] <markvp> wols:  getting bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[05:33] <pha|con> neverblue: you say it has 3 partition which means that there should be filesystems on it already.
[05:33] <fuzzy> wols: thanks i will have a look at that
[05:33] <neverblue> i have been answering all your questions, yet no answer on mine
[05:33] <wols> markvp: there you are. no firmware
[05:34] <pha|con> neverblue: we told you fdisk or cfdisk, but those didn't work.  that can only mean the drive is bad or not installed correctly
[05:34] <wols> neverblue: fdisk -l. what does it say for sda?
[05:34] <yondie> markvp: update the firmware
[05:34] <neverblue> nothing wols
[05:34] <neverblue> just /dev/sda* show up
[05:35] <kgreen> how do i run vino so i can remote connect?
[05:35] <wols> neverblue: are you sure there is a partition on that disk?
[05:35] <markvp> yondie:  would this be using the fwcutter or the ndiswrapper?
[05:35] <neverblue> i pulled this drive from another system, hoping to troubleshoot why I could not boot it
[05:35] <yondie> markvp, aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:35] <neverblue> so there MUST be an error on it
[05:35] <wols> neverblue: please don't LIE to me. /dev/sda is not "nothing". what kinds of /dev/sda? use a pastebin
[05:35] <wols> markvp: fwcutter
[05:35] <markvp> youndi / wols:  I belive I have tried both the fwcutter and ndiswrapper.
[05:35] <yondie> prefer the fwcutter
[05:35] <pha|con> neverblue: from what you just said it sounds like the drive is dead
[05:35] <neverblue> wols, i dont think you need to assist me anymore
[05:35] <yondie> anyway broadcom sucks
[05:36] <neverblue> pha|con, maybe
[05:36] <pha|con> neverblue: and you also need to remember that being rude when coming to people for help because you can't help yourself is no way to go about things
[05:36] <mylogic> neverblue: you could open your computer and restart and listen to if the drive spins up or not
[05:36] <wols> neverblue: if you want help, give the ones trying to help you proper info. otherwise this cannot work
[05:36] <markvp> yondie:  but I'm stuck with it. . . will see if I can find a better walk-through then I had before.
[05:36] <neverblue> wols, I gave you an answer, and you accuse me of lying
[05:36] <yondie> markvp: mind if i ssh to your box?
[05:36] <wols> neverblue: cause you did. /dev/sda is not nothing
[05:37] <neverblue> one more msg from you and ill /ignore
[05:37] <wols> that is clearly a lie
[05:37] <gordonjcp> "lol broadcom"
[05:37] <wols> neverblue: it's not me who needs help. it's you
[05:37] <gordonjcp> they just don't get it, do they
[05:37] <markvp> yondie:  give me a second, I have to open a port and get my IP?
[05:37] <wols> markvp: have you found the fwcutter?
[05:37] <neverblue> mylogic, good idea
[05:37] <craigbass1976> Nutubuntu, I dont think you do choose.  Whether or not you use GNOME or KDE, you're going to see Kate in the menu somewhere, and there's some other apps.  Is that what you're talkign about?
[05:37] <yondie> markvp: are u behind a  router?
[05:37] <pha|con> neverblue: if the drive doesn't work in one system and then you can't read it properly in fdisk i would say with some certainty that the drive is dead
[05:37] <craigbass1976> Anyone want to help me get bind up and running?  I've missed something somewhere.  Ip pointing is ok, as I tcpdump, then try to go to my site, and I see traffic.  named -checkconf shows nothing.  Here are what I believe are the relevant conf files http://rafb.net/p/SH3x9945.html
[05:37] <markvp> wols:  I shouldn't have a problem finding it.
[05:38] <markvp> yondie:  yes, behind an ADSL router.
[05:38] <markvp> wols:  I had it yesterday, but failed setting it up.
[05:38] <pha|con> mylogic: the drive could still spin up even if it were bad
[05:38] <neverblue> pha|con, but it could just be the MBR?
[05:38] <AaronCampbell> Would anyone have time to try to help me make my networking work again on Kubuntu Fiesty?  I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working
[05:38] <AaronCampbell> It appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP
[05:38] <AaronCampbell> And worst of all, it was working fine a few days ago
[05:38] <yondie> markvp: hurm  well make sure u install the openssh-server package
[05:39] <mylogic> neverblue: If you are really in dire need of the info on that system, you could try to find the exact model hd with a logic board that has the same firmware and try switching on the logic boards
[05:39] <wols> markvp: no worries
[05:39] <mylogic> pha|con: yeah, but if it doesn't even spin up, then you KNOW somethings up
[05:39] <neverblue> mylogic, i cannot tell by 'listening' if the drive is working
[05:39] <neverblue> too much in my case to distract
[05:39] <GizDrak> neverblue: Do the bios see the drive?
[05:39] <wols> mylogic: and a drive that shows (several) /dev/sda in fdisk -l is not bad. unless it spams dmesg
[05:39] <markvp> yondie:  no problem there.  I'm very familiar with setting up servers and network routing..  This I can handle.
[05:39] <neverblue> GizDrak, good point
[05:39] <neverblue> ill brb
[05:39] <yondie> cool
[05:39] <pha|con> mylogic: obviously, yes. but not working in two systems it kind of a dead giveaway
[05:39] <mylogic> neverblue: yeah definitely check the bios
[05:40] <wols> markvp: the routing is not the problem. WLAN problems are 99% the encryption and stuff like that
[05:40] <wols> markvp: the networking when you have a connection is child's play
[05:40] <pha|con> fdisk saw the drive, apparently, but just didn't list partitions....
[05:40] <GizDrak> mylogic: he probably has it set to master still or something
[05:40] <pha|con> chances are bios will see it too
[05:40] <yondie> wols, but right now his wireless ain`t working anyway at al
[05:40] <wols> pha|con: which means either busted partition table or read errors
[05:41] <rockets> whats wrong with this picture?
[05:41] <rockets> mount.cifs //192.168.1.97/zach-desktop /media/cifs/ user=zach
[05:41] <markvp> yondie:  I have to register.
[05:41] <rockets> that isnt working
[05:41] <wols> yondie: yes. but he's a LOT farther than 999% of people asking. he already has the driver, even without firmware. And most of all: he's constructively working on his problem making an effort
[05:41] <wols> that's better than about 90% of all people asking for help here imho. that# very good
[05:41] <guest123213> hello everyone, how do u start ubuntu fiesty on text mode? and will  it identify my wireless internet connection?
[05:41] <yoli> wenas
[05:42] <lashmoove> when grub says.. loading.. hit esc
[05:42] <wols> guest123213: it probably won't. and with start in text mode do you mean for installing or for using?
[05:42] <yondie> guest123213,  well u can log in without the x session and use iwconfig wlan0 scan
[05:42] <lashmoove> then choose recovery
[05:42] <yondie> wols, oops i think it`s iwlist
[05:42] <defrysk> wols, you are more judgmental then about 99% of the people here
[05:42] <pha|con> corporate firewalls suck
[05:42] <wols> yondie: I dunno it either on top of my head. would have to check with the lappie
[05:43] <guest123213> well, i have a problem with ATI X1400 on my pc, and from the website it says that i should update using apt-get
[05:43] <wols> defrysk: you didn't say I'm wrong tho...
[05:43] <guest123213> but on text mode there is no internet connection
[05:43] <wols> defrysk: and if you wish you#re welcome the people here instead of me doing it
[05:43] <yondie> guest123213,  u gotta be kidding me
[05:43] <wols> defrysk: or kick me if you don't want me here
[05:43] <TuxOtaku> hey, I'm trying to do a kernel recompile....and it seems like the compiler is choking on the Memory Stick module http://pastebin.ca/581516
[05:43] <defrysk> wols, did I hurt your feelings now ?
[05:44] <guest123213> well, thats what happened to me unless i am doing something wrong
[05:44] <wols> guest123213: nah. you can be in X via vesa and update that way
[05:44] <guest123213> wols: how do i do that ?
[05:44] <wols> edman007: no. no names can't hurt feelings. I don't know you since you never talk here. you might be an op, you might come just from the street. I don#t know you
[05:44] <wols> guest123213: do what exactly?
[05:44] <wols> guest123213: can you get into X at all?
[05:44] <guest123213> nop
[05:45] <wols> or: what happens if you boot your box normally?
[05:45] <Nalleman> hi, i have just got my new extern hdd, it works great but i cant dismount it, it just goes " cant dismount volume" and open the HDD instead. help please.
[05:45] <boubbin> howto *.amr to *.mp3/ *.wav / *.ogg ?
[05:45] <TuxOtaku> can anyone help me with this kernel compile problem i'm having?
[05:45] <wols> Nalleman: some program still has a file open on that hdd
[05:45] <guest123213> i get the error message that X did not recognise my monitor or somthing,
[05:45] <yondie> boubbin, u can use ffmpeg
[05:45] <boubbin> yondie howto ?
[05:46] <Nalleman> wols, no, dont think so. not active anyway.
[05:46] <pha|con> does anyone here use freenx?
[05:46] <guest123213> when i looked through ubuntuforums i found that i have to use apt-get to fix this bug on fiesty with ATI X1400
[05:46] <wols> Nalleman: what is the mountpoint of the disk
[05:46] <defrysk> ffmpeg -i blah.amr blah.mp3 (or something)
[05:47] <wols> guest123213: do you get a login prompt (text mode)?
[05:47] <guest123213> yes
[05:47] <wols> guest123213: if not: try pressing ctrl+alt+f2.
[05:47] <AaronCampbell> Would anyone have time to try to help me make my networking work again on Kubuntu Fiesty?  I have 2 wired gigabit connections, and 1 wireless connection.  All I really want is to get one of the gigabit connections working
[05:47] <AaronCampbell> It appears as though all the interfaces are working fine.   don't see any way to choose a wireless network, and as for wired, I can't get an IP on my network (192.168.2.x), and a static IP (what I used to run) doesn't seem to work.  I've changed the cables out a few times, and am using one I tested on this laptop.   This laptop connects to the same router, using DHCP
[05:47] <AaronCampbell> And worst of all, it was working fine a few days ago
[05:47] <craigbass1976> no bind gurus? I've been asking since 9:30 about this
[05:47] <wols> then log in. and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". there choose vesa an leave the rest as it is
[05:47] <Nalleman> wols, /media/lacie
[05:47] <wols> craigbass1976: that is the wrong channel for such a thing. try #bind
[05:48] <wols> Nalleman: lsof |grep media/lacie
[05:48] <wols> Nalleman: if something shows, something IS open
[05:48] <ipx> Is there any way to se status on files that you copy or move through the terminal? Im moving rather large files between discs and want to see the speed and percentage. :)
[05:48] <k1gw1> cp -v
[05:48] <wols> ipx: use mc
[05:48] <variant> I seem to have a problem with fonts here on feisty.. the character spacing is all wrong, for example the m or w keys overlap with other letters.
[05:48] <defrysk> v = verbose
[05:48] <Nalleman> wols;bjorn@bjorn:~$ lsof |grep media/lacie
[05:48] <Nalleman> bjorn@bjorn:~$ lsof |grep /media/lacie
[05:48] <Nalleman> bjorn@bjorn:~$
[05:48] <Phrozen_One> whats the best cli method for determining if a particular library is installed?
[05:49] <variant> ipx: not witht he version of coreutils shipped with ubuntu, other core utils version supports -g to give a progress indicator
[05:49] <wols> Nalleman: then what is the exact output when you umount /media/lacie ?
[05:49] <Del> d
[05:49] <wols> Phrozen_One: dpkg -l |grep libname
[05:49] <wols> Phrozen_One: if it's ii for status, it is
[05:50] <Nalleman> wols, it says it's not mounted :] 
[05:50] <ipx> variant: ok :/
[05:50] <wols> then it isn't?
[05:50] <ipx> wols: mc?
[05:50] <sql_hesw> How do i install compiz-fusion in ubuntu?
[05:50] <wols> ipx: mc = midnight commander a norton commander clone
[05:50] <Phrozen_One> wols: isnt there a distro neutral way, using a *nix utility?
[05:50] <Nalleman> wols, but i can use it and its in media. wierd...
[05:50] <wols> !effects | sql_hesw
[05:50] <ubotu> sql_hesw: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[05:51] <wols> Nalleman: check with ls -al /media/lacie
[05:51] <wols> Phrozen_One: find / -name libname
[05:51] <wols> Phrozen_One: find / -name libname*
[05:51] <wols> Phrozen_One: locate works too. usually update every day around 6am
[05:51] <Nalleman> hm. it should be /media/LACIE sorry,
[05:51] <Phrozen_One> wols: won't that fail if I have a installer cache file named the same?
[05:52] <wols> so if you installed it today you either have to run updatedb& (as root) or wait til tomorrow :)
[05:52] <Phrozen_One> wols: I have used (s)locate frequently
[05:52] <wols> Phrozen_One: it will. to find the exact filename you need an exact name...
[05:52] <dyrne> bah just do a find / -name something    :)
[05:52] <wols> Phrozen_One: do you want this for a script or for a human?
[05:52] <Nalleman> wols, it says that LACIE is not in fstab
[05:52] <siva214215> sorry for the interruption - for pxe start what is the http parameter for this instead of nfs;
[05:52] <siva214215> kernel=vmlinuz append initrd=initrd.gz boot=casper netboot nfsroot=192.168.0.214:path/
[05:53] <Phrozen_One> wols: just trying to determine if a library is installed to compile a program, so human
[05:53] <wols> Nalleman: wenn you run ls?
[05:53] <wols> Phrozen_One: there are better ways in ubuntu: apt-get build-dep
[05:53] <Nalleman> no, when I try umount
[05:53] <Phrozen_One> wols:  using os x :)
[05:53] <wols> it automatically installs build dependencies very handy
[05:53] <danda1> hi, I need some help with my hard drive. I ran dosfsck on /dev/hda2 but access was denied
[05:53] <Nalleman> bjorn@bjorn:~$ ls -al /media/LACIE
[05:53] <Nalleman> totalt 68
[05:53] <Nalleman> drwx------ 3 bjorn root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 .
[05:53] <Nalleman> drwxr-xr-x 7 root  root  4096 2007-06-21 17:41 ..
[05:53] <Nalleman> drwx------ 2 bjorn root 32768 2007-05-17 16:46 100KM006
[05:53] <wols> Phrozen_One: then you are in the wrong channel
[05:54] <sql_hesw> where do i add the custom startup programs in ubuntu?
[05:54] <wols> Nalleman: don't paste in the channel
[05:54] <Phrozen_One> wols: I figured it was a generic *nix question so I asked here :)
[05:54] <Nalleman> wols, sorry
[05:54] <karrotx> does ubuntu support iscsi?
[05:54] <wols> sql_hesw: /etc/rc.local
[05:54] <wols> Phrozen_One: this channel is for ubuntu ONLY. if you want support: install ubuntu
[05:54] <Ayarcy> Where can I find documentation on setting up a local .deb package server?  The packaging guide on help.ubuntu.com only tells you how to make the .debs, not how to serve them.
[05:54] <Phrozen_One> wols: I use ubuntu as well, so don't hate too badly
[05:54] <Ind[y] > The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!
[05:54] <wols> karrotx: only if the kernel supports it. you can check ubuntu's kernel config in the kernel-image package
[05:55] <dyrne> Phrozen_One: #linux is a good general support channel or #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <Ind[y] > Millions of people claim that.
[05:55] <wols> Phrozen_One: I don#t even use ubuntu. I still don't ask windows or debian questions here
[05:55] <Jerlo> can anybody tell me how to install winbind?
[05:55] <karrotx> wols: what kind of iscsi utilities are there?
[05:55] <Phrozen_One> wols: point taken
[05:55] <wols> karrotx: i don't know. packages.ubuntu.com might help you
[05:55] <Nalleman> wols, should I edit fstab?
[05:55] <karrotx> i've searched and couldn't find anything
[05:55] <karrotx> that's why i asked
[05:56] <wols> karrotx: that hw is out of my priceclass. and frankly I'm not sure if I would run ubuntu on it
[05:56] <hylje> how do i set up automagical updates in server
[05:56] <wols> from what I remember iscsi is very cutting edge stuff
[05:56] <siva214215> is there any thing wrong with my systems.  the process are going into uninterruptible state and systems are becoming dead slow.
[05:57] <siva214215> is n't 256 MB of ram is not sufficient for 7.04?
[05:57] <wols> siva214215: error messages in dmesg?
[05:57] <danda1> does anybody know why I get a "permission denied" error message in dosfsck ?
[05:57] <Nalleman> Well, bbl. dinner.
[05:57] <wols> siva214215: it is. so the sys requirements say. I still wouldn't run azureus and eclipse in that tho
[05:57] <wols> danda1: do you run it as root?
[05:57] <scope006> Ever since I reinstalled 7.04 my sound on my dell inspiron hasn't been working as well as it had in the past.  Is there an easy way to reset or reconfigure your sound settings?
[05:58] <wols> !sound | scope006
[05:58] <ubotu> scope006: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:58] <danda1> I started ubuntu from the CD
[05:58] <siva214215> no errors.
[05:58] <olrrai> do u know a bandwith limiter like netlimiter for ubuntu?
[05:58] <scope006> I didnt find much on google and messing in the system->Sound didnt help a lot
[05:58] <wols> danda1: it still has sudo, doesn't it?
[05:58] <danda1> sure
[05:58] <danda1> thanks, now works
[05:58] <kaktuskatta> Hi! I
[05:59] <wols> olrrai: not really. ther might be wondershaper but it doesn't really do limiting. you orobably have to do it on your own with your own scripts
[05:59] <siva214215> wols < no erros in dmesg.  first the systems work fine for some time.
[05:59] <fuzzy_logic> hi people.. i once installed a graphic driver from the nvidia website on top of the nvidia-glx driver.. that one didn't work so i uninstalled the driver from the site and installed the nvidia-glx back, but since then i can't start x because it says that the version of the nvidia kernel module is not the same as the one the driver has.. how can i change the module?? anyone help plz?
[05:59] <wols> markvp: how are you?
[05:59] <kaktuskatta> 'I'm experiencing some labeling-problems with my external HDD. I'm unable to rename..! Help please
[05:59] <scope006> thnx ill check that out
[05:59] <olrrai> wols: thanks
[05:59] <wols> fuzzy_logic: install the proper module from ubuntu repos
[05:59] <wols> fuzzy_logic: it will overwrite the bad one
[06:00] <fuzzy_logic> wols: how do i do that?
[06:00] <wols> !nvidia | fuzzy_logic
[06:00] <ubotu> fuzzy_logic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <olrrai> also do u know a good sound editor (for gnome or kde) ?
[06:00] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i mean what is the name of the package??
[06:00] <kaktuskatta> !pastebin
[06:00] <wols> but first, I'd remove all packages that show up in dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <wols> fuzzy_logic: apt-get remove --purge ALL of them
[06:00] <dyrne> olrrai: audacity is pretty nice
[06:00] <endo> how can I get the permissions to extract to my /usr/share dir?
[06:00] <olrrai> dyrne: good
[06:00] <Filipe1> 2: I have one ATI onboard, one NVIDIA offboard and two LCD Samsung monitors. They work together under windows, but under Linux I can only make one of them work at a time, indicating that the drivers are working properly. However I can't get the configuration right to make them both work at the same time. The xorg.conf is this: http://rafb.net/p/Ff5iRW61.html . I tried #xorg but nobody knows, can someone please help?
[06:00] <wols> then do a sudo find / -name nvidia* and paste its output in pastebin
[06:01] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what do you mean? i just have to type apt-get remove --purge??
[06:01] <wols> endo: sudo. why do you want to extract to it? what?
[06:01] <mat1980> fuzzy_logic: optionally, to start X, reconfigure it with sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and set it with vesa driver. This will let you to start X untill you will have installed proper nvidia driver.
[06:01] <kaktuskatta> the errormessage is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26615/
[06:01] <endo> wols: I want to install a GTK theme
[06:01] <wols> fuzzy_logic: not you have to remove the packages shown with that command. man apt-get or
[06:01] <wols> !apt howto
[06:01] <endo> hey again btw :P
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <wols> !apt
[06:01] <kaktuskatta> I've tried to change permission
[06:01] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:01] <wols> read the howto
[06:01] <endo> ok, thanks
[06:01] <yondie> markvp, are u there?
[06:02] <askand> openlierox: error while loading shared libraries: libgd.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:02] <askand> why?
[06:02] <wols> endo: you haven't answered
[06:02] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it doesn't show any packages..
[06:02] <endo> wols: I want to install a GTK theme
[06:02] <wols> askand: libgd is not installed? how did you install it?
[06:02] <askand> wols: how do i insstall libgd?
[06:03] <wols> askand: why do you need it
[06:03] <askand> wols: the game openlierox
[06:03] <wols> endo: use sudo then to extract it
[06:03] <wols> askand: search for it in synaptic
[06:03] <wols> libgd
[06:03] <endo> sudo to extract it? how do I go about doing that?
[06:03] <wols> sudo tar...
[06:03] <fuzzy_logic> wols: can you please help me??
[06:03] <endo> ok
[06:03] <endo> thanks
[06:03] <siva214215> wols < what is this uninterruptible stat and why the process become slow when they get into uninterruptible stat;
[06:03] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I already did
[06:04] <wols> fuzzy_logic: ls -al /var/lib/dpkg/info/*nvidia*  . anything show up?
[06:04] <askand> wols: i get a lot of results....
[06:04] <Shamail> someone knows how can i set default volume in mplayer's config file...
[06:04] <wols> siva214215: they are waiting for some I/O usually. what process is it. tell us the ps aux line for it
[06:04] <kaktuskatta> anyone with labeling-experience here willing to help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26615/
[06:04] <CheshireViking> @seek james rollins
[06:04] <fuzzy_logic> wols: yes it does.. shell i pastebin it?
[06:04] <wols> askand: so your dpkg -l line was wrong. paste the full line you use and its output to a pastebin
[06:05] <siva214215> in most cases firefox and evince.
[06:05] <wols> siva214215: I told you what to do
[06:05] <askand> the line I use for what?
[06:05] <siva214215> no errors in dmesg.
[06:05] <wols> unless you can show me the error I can't and won't help you
[06:05] <askand> wols:  the line I use for what?
[06:05] <wols> askand: sry. wrong nick
[06:05] <wols> fuzzy_logic: so your dpkg -l line was wrong. paste the full line you use and its output to a pastebin
[06:06] <wifimonste1> My wireless connection is very slow, Its set to 11mb/s but I have a 54mb/s card. any ideas what I can do?
[06:07] <siva214215> wols < ok can u tell me is there any problem in ubuntu in opening pdf files with evince from firefox.
[06:07] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://pastebin.com/933448
[06:07] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, e2label /dev/<device> label
[06:07] <kaktuskatta> nickrud:  I did that
[06:07] <wols> wifimonste1: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools should have some explanation for some /etc/network/interfaces options. one of them is for wlan speed, b or g I think
[06:07] <siva214215> wols:  they are opening well in other os.
[06:07] <kaktuskatta> e2label: Is a directory while trying to open /media/disk/
[06:07] <kaktuskatta> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock
[06:07] <kaktuskatta> that's the errormessage
[06:07] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, according to your paste, you did it to the mount point
[06:07] <wols> wifimonste1: you could also have bad reception ro 11b devices on the same AP
[06:07] <wols> siva214215: check bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <Arrick> hey all, how do I boot all users off a machine that are connected via ssh?
[06:08] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, ls /dev/hd* /dev/sd* it'll be one of those
[06:08] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I asked for the dpkg -l commandline and output
[06:08] <kaktuskatta> nickrud: The disk is called "disk". So I assumed I should type e2label /media/disk /media/newname
[06:08] <wols> Arrick: killall -9 sshd   and after none of them runs: /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[06:08] <Arrick> heya nickrud you still in tehas?
[06:08] <fuzzy_logic> wols: no you didn't, you asked me something else.. but wait a sec
[06:09] <Shamail> how can i set default volume in mplayers config file???
[06:09] <wols> 18:05 < wols> fuzzy_logic: so your dpkg -l line was wrong. paste the full line you use and its output to a pastebin
[06:09] <wifimonste1> wols: no, reception is very good. I just upgraded to feisty. I wa using ndiswrapper with the proprietory drivers before. Im not using the linux drivers as per this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-434946.html
[06:09] <wols> wifimonste1: then I dunno. what wlan chip?
[06:09] <ochosi> hi, my usb-hdd doesn't spin down correctly (it makes a clicking noise on shutdown) when being unmounted (also from the terminal). any idea why that is?
[06:09] <wols> wifimonste1: use bcm43xx
[06:09] <fuzzy_logic> wols: oh.. i understood something else.. sorry
[06:09] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, no. that's where the partition on the disk is mounted. The partition device is under /dev.  Try typing mount: it's kinda ugly formatting, but it shows the relationship
[06:10] <scope006> i tried messing around with sound settings as the guides suggested but it still seem like the bass is loud and only the front two speakers (not all 4) are putting out any sound.  It used to work beautifully with 6.10 and upgrading to 7.04, but when i did a fresh 7.04 install this is what the sound was like.  any thoughts/advice?
[06:10] <wols> ochosi: when a hdd starts to click a smartmontools check is in order. disk could go bad very soon
[06:10] <nickrud> Arrick, hey
[06:10] <Arrick> nickrud, you still neighboring my sister?
[06:10] <bazil_> how to run thunderbird 2 on Ubuntu Feisty
[06:10] <Shamail> does nybody knows about mplayer's config file... ~/.mplayer/config
[06:11] <endo> use vlc player so much better
[06:11] <dyrne> Shamail: what about it?
[06:11] <kaktuskatta> nickrud: Hehe....I think I found the name easier
[06:11] <kaktuskatta> I just typed sudo fdisk -l
[06:11] <Shamail> dyrne, i want to set default volume in it...
[06:11] <kaktuskatta> lists all connected disks :)
[06:12] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, yeah, if you know which you want already :)
[06:12] <ochosi> wols: so you're sure it's not ubuntu's fault? (i had this laptop-hdd shutdown kernel bug as well...)
[06:12] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://pastebin.com/933450
[06:12] <ktron> Anyone know offhand where (the|a) howto on installing lilo in/for ubuntu is?
[06:12] <Shamail> i tried many things, but it seems there is no such thing... mplayer always start with vol around 88
[06:12] <yondie> ktron, and what is the reason behind it?
[06:12] <dyrne> Shamail: im not sure offhand but does the /etc/mplayer/*.conf file have that setting commented out?
[06:12] <edison_> hello, ive got ubuntu dapper with cedega 6 working but i cant get need for speed most wanted running, please help me :(
[06:12] <ktron> yondie: XFS didn't seem to play well
[06:12] <ktron> (with grub)
[06:13] <Shamail> lemme chech
[06:13] <wifimonste1> wols: nothing very interesting in there /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools
[06:13] <Tremitos> yo
[06:13] <scope006> hmm looks like other inspiron 9300 users are having the wierd tone and volume problems too.  but no responses on the boards yet.
[06:13] <wifimonste1> wols: I am using bcm43xx
[06:13] <ktron> yondie: But I think that's expected, isn't it?
[06:13] <wols> wifimonste1: you said you used ndiswrapper
[06:13] <claudia> ola
[06:14] <wols> edison_: what videocard do you have and what driver for it do you use?
[06:14] <siva214215> wols < nothing helpful bugs.ubuntu
[06:14] <Tremitos> no
[06:14] <claudia> eeeeoooo
[06:14] <siva214215> Is there anyone who know about this uninterruptible issue.
[06:14] <wifimonste1> wols: no, I used ndiswrapper before with edgy, I cant get that to work so Im using the bcm43xx
[06:14] <rope> Hi, how can i remove the XFCE desktop?
[06:14] <fuzzy_logic> wols: can you help me?
[06:14] <edison_> wols, msi nx7600gt and the regular nvidia driver
[06:15] <siva214215> please check this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464973
[06:15] <dyrne> rope: it doesnt take up much space if you intend to keep gnome
[06:15] <fuzzy_logic> rope: type sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <rope> dyrne: No, i want to install fluxbox
[06:15] <wols> edison_: then the ubuntu part is exhausted. ask cedega
[06:16] <rope> fuzzy_logic: I made that, but when i installed it it took much mouch longer than removeing it, so i wasnt sure if i ereased it compleatly
[06:16] <ktron> yondie: actually, it looks like what I tried to do half-worked-- I tried to make a ~500m /boot... maybe I'll try again and see
[06:16] <wols> fuzzy_logic: not pastebin it takes ages to laod. use
[06:16] <wols> !paste | fuzzy_logic
[06:16] <ubotu> fuzzy_logic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:16] <Shamail> i have installed compiz, but i cannot start it... the window border disappears...
[06:16] <fuzzy_logic> rope: removing things takes always much less time than installing :)
[06:16] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok just a sec
[06:16] <rope> fuzzy_logic: Ok, i'll reboot then. Thanks! :)
[06:16] <kaktuskatta> nickrud: please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26617/
[06:16] <dyrne> rope: id remove some of the gtk libs but thatll effect other apps so do that if you only want bas ubuntu and xserver and fonts and fluxbox. the other apps you might have to reinstall. not sure otherwise
[06:17] <GizDrak> !blkid
[06:17] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:17] <rope> Ok, thanks!
[06:17] <dyrne> fuzzy_logic: apt-get removes using metapackage now?
[06:17] <wifimonste1> Wols, thing is my wireless is even far slower than 11mb/s I mean, my broadband is only 7mb/s
[06:17] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, so you'd do sudo e2label /dev/sdb1 <name>
[06:17] <ThRiX_> Hi at all
[06:17] <kaktuskatta> yup
[06:18] <fuzzy_logic> dyrne: i don't know what you are talking about
[06:18] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26618/
[06:18] <wifimonste1> Wols, Im getting downloads of 20kb/s from sourceforge
[06:18] <neverblue> well that was fun :/
[06:18] <kritzstapf> vsftp: 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/home/ftp -- where to change this directory?
[06:18] <neverblue> BIOS wasnt recognizing it
[06:18] <mookid> Can anyone tell me why I only have 1024 x 768 available and my monitor can display 1280 x 1024
[06:18] <jr[br] > hi all
[06:18] <ochosi> wols: smartctl doesn't seem to work on my external usb-hdd... any other ideas?
[06:18] <erUSUL> !fixres | mookid
[06:18] <ubotu> mookid: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:18] <UberHalogen> Hi, Where can I find information on USB drivers available on Ubuntu? I recently purchased a Linksys WUSB54GS-UK (the not -UK version was recommended on the FSF website) and I was wondering if the drivers are available on ubuntu 6, I don't want to waste time downloading Ubuntu 7 (which I will be able to do once I get the internet using this wi-fi reciver anyway) or installing Ubuntu (I have...
[06:18] <UberHalogen> ...Debian at the moment (although its wireless config box isn't so great). So any help would be great.
[06:19] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I said commandline AND outpuz of that dpkg -l | grep nvidia statement. but anyways: I clearly see you have nvidia stuff installed:
[06:19] <wols> fuzzy_logic: ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.9756-100+2 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.20
[06:19] <yondie> i think the fastest way to restart your x is Ctrl + Alt + backspace
[06:19] <Shamail> hey what is this !<some thing> ???
[06:19] <mookid> thanks erUSUL :)
[06:19] <cov3rt> mookid: try editing xorg.conf to allow higher resolution
[06:19] <dyrne> UberHalogen: id do a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org feisty usbdevicemodel'
[06:19] <erUSUL> mookid: no problem ;P
[06:19] <kaktuskatta> nickrud: quite annoying and frustrating that I
[06:19] <dyrne> UberHalogen: or use the livecd
[06:19] <mookid> ;)
[06:19] <kaktuskatta> 'm unable to change label
[06:19] <UberHalogen> dyrne: ok
[06:19] <fuzzy_logic> wols: yes but the version of that nvidia-kernel thing is different than the nvidia-glx.. how do i get the nvidia-kernel to be the same version as nvidia-glx?
[06:20] <wols> untill evreyy single line with nvidia is gone, don't stop removing
[06:20] <Shamail> !mplayer
[06:20] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[06:20] <wols> fuzzy_logic: yes, and it can cause problems cause it's installed. your problem IS: the kernel module is different from the glx...
[06:20] <Shamail> !codecs
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <nickrud> kaktuskatta, you got my attention cuz I am getting rid of my amd64 install and putting debian there; I changed the label just now as a first step
[06:21] <fuzzy_logic> wols: exactly.. i know that.. but how do i solve that problem?
[06:21] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I told you
[06:21] <kaktuskatta> nickrud: I C
[06:21] <wols> dpkg -l |grep nvidia   and apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[06:21] <kaktuskatta> The wierd thing is that I were able to change this before I upgraded to feisty
[06:21] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what package do i have to remove?
[06:21] <wols> kaktuskatta: are your root while changing it?
[06:21] <kaktuskatta> wols:
[06:22] <kaktuskatta> wols: yes
[06:22] <wols> fuzzy_logic: all that show up in the command I told you
[06:22] <wols> I won't tell it a 3rd time
[06:22] <neverblue> now the fun part begins
[06:22] <beb> some people in here have experience with eclipse and maven?
[06:22] <fuzzy_logic> wols: sorry but somehow i don't understand some things you are saying.. but i think i get it now..
[06:22] <wols> beb: a) don't ask to ask b) better ask a java channel
[06:23] <beb> wols, nobody respond but thanks
[06:23] <olrrai> see u later
[06:23] <scope006> not sure if anyone else by chance is running a Dell Inspiron 9300:  but Master Mono controls the sub, and the master volume and pcm on device 1 and 2 in sound settings control the other speakers.  Adjust as needed.
[06:23] <scope006> ./fixed
[06:23] <wols> fuzzy_logic: can you repeat it in your own word so that we all understand each other and talk about the same
[06:23] <wols> beb: well it's kinda OT here and just cause they don't repsond iit's not our purpose to answer it
[06:23] <tck> where can i get sndconfig for feisty?
[06:24] <wols> tck: isn't that a rh kinda thing?
[06:24] <chadeldridge> scope006:  the same thing goes for the XPS Gen2 which i am running ... took a while to figure that one out
[06:24] <beb> wobx, OT?
[06:24] <wols> !sound | tck
[06:24] <ubotu> tck: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:24] <wols> !ot
[06:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:24] <tck> wols, yeah as far as i know, but used to be in ubuntu
[06:24] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i have to type dpkg -l | grep nvidia and all the packages shown there i have to remove with apt-get remove --purge <packagenames>
[06:24] <Teemu> Does anyone know a good OneNote replacement for Ubuntu?
[06:24] <wols> fuzzy_logic: yep! :)
[06:24] <neverblue> I updated this system last week (the one I pulled the HD out of, and added it to my current system) and when I rebooted, I got this error: 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) '
[06:24] <fuzzy_logic> wols: thanks for your help.. will try that
[06:25] <wols> fuzzy_logic: you want a clean nvidia slate. after the removing we will hunt files left over fromt he nvidia.com isntaller. and then you can begin with the normal ubuntu nvidia install
[06:25] <Rope> fuzzy_logic: I removed the xubuntu-desktop, in fact it says it is not installed. but still have the X with xfce
[06:25] <scope006> chad:  yeah i was beating my skull against the keyboard for a while there.  lol
[06:25] <neverblue> i can read the system just fine, I think the update (might have been the update with the linux-headers, etc...) might have messed up my "boot sequence"?
[06:25] <edison_> no one here playing need for speed most wanted with cedega??????
[06:25] <wols> Rope: xubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. it has not files only dependencies. Rope dpkg -l |grep xfce. remove all those
[06:25] <scope006> time to get back to work aka get the Saga of Ryzom running on my lappy in ubuntu.  O.o
[06:25] <wols> !cedega
[06:25] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:25] <eoj> does ubuntu have a style guide or templates for documentation?
[06:25] <Rope> wols:  Thanks
[06:26] <geniusvicks> how does one remove the icons of the hard disk drives from the destop?
[06:26] <dyrne> Rope: do a 'locate xfce4 | grep lib' and remove one of those maybe or the gtk thing
[06:26] <dyrne> Rope: trick is to remove a common dependancy
[06:26] <yondie> geniusvicks, find it around gconf-editor
[06:27] <Rope> dyrne: i made apt-get remove xfce* :)
[06:27] <fuzzy_logic> wols: when i try apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx it says that nvidia-glx is not installed
[06:27] <gnuts> anybody know how to undervolt a turion x2 64 tl-50 in feisty? is this an ok place to ask?
[06:27] <geniusvicks> yondie, when I type that in terminal I get gconf : command not found
[06:27] <domingez> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:27] <wols> fuzzy_logic: dpkg --purge nvidia-glx. only it's config files are still there. it's "rc"
[06:27] <yondie> geniusvicks, gconf-editor
[06:27] <fuzzy_logic> wols: thanks
[06:27] <eoj> nm, found it here: http://doc.ubuntu.com/styleguide/styleguide.html
[06:28] <nickrud> eoj, yes, but you'd probably be best asking on #ubuntu-doc
[06:28] <geniusvicks> yondie, its working now
[06:28] <cov3rt> Is it possible to run a 3G Woosh Wireless Network pcmcia card on ubuntu feisty?
[06:28] <mat1980> installed kde, I would remove gdm and use kdm. But removing gdm will remove gnome... some solution? I don't think gdm is so mandatory for gnome to work...
[06:29] <nickrud> mat1980, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm and choose kdm; gdm will still be there but not used
[06:29] <nickrud> mat1980, in fact when you install kdm, that's done automatically iirc
[06:29] <neverblue> I updated this system last week (the one I pulled the HD out of, and added it to my current system) and when I rebooted, I got this error: 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) '
[06:30] <neverblue> i can read the system just fine, I think the update (might have been the update with the linux-headers, etc...) might have messed up my "boot sequence"?
[06:30] <wols> cov3rt: what chip does the card use?
[06:30] <letronje> hi how do i configure ubuntu client machines to authenticate  from a central ubuntu server  ?
[06:30] <chadeldridge> is there any way to make Gnome remember where things are on the screen so they open the same every time?
[06:30] <sql_hesw> I am getting the below error when i do apt-get update
[06:30] <sql_hesw> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[06:30] <wols> letronje: NIS probably
[06:30] <mat1980> nickrud: I did... but I think it's foolish that removing gdm will remove all gnome...
[06:30] <wols> mat1980: it doesn't remove gnome
[06:30] <nickrud> mat1980, it only removes ubuntu-desktop, not gnome.
[06:31] <yondie> nah it won`t remove gnome
[06:31] <wols> mat1980: it only removes a meta package with no files in it
[06:31] <TheCreationist> I just installed Feisty from the live cd, but when logging into gnome, the screen goes completely white with a mouse cursor.  What did I do wrong and how do I fix it?
[06:31] <defrysk> mat switching beteween gdm and kdm is done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:32] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i finished removing and purging all of the things listed.. is now everything clear? can i now just install the nvidia-glx package?
[06:32] <Cement> Someone knows a program to lower your fans?
[06:32] <defrysk> mat1980,  switching beteween gdm and kdm is done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:32] <nickrud> chadeldridge, there's a thing called devilspie that you can use to get that effect
[06:32] <geniusvicks> yondie, what column should I look at?>
[06:32] <chadeldridge> seems to only work with metacity though .. and i am using berly
[06:32] <chadeldridge> beryl that is
[06:32] <wols> fuzzy_logic: not yet. soory
[06:32] <wols> fuzzy_logic: find / -name nvidia*
[06:32] <mat1980> wols: try to remove it... you'll see what packages it will try to remove... Not only meta-package gnome-desktop. I tried and stopped from doing that.
[06:32] <wols> fuzzy_logic: sudo find / -name nvidia*
[06:32] <yondie> geniusvicks, apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:32] <nickrud> chadeldridge, no clue then, sorry.
[06:32] <defrysk> mat1980, no need to remove gdm
[06:32] <wols> mat1980: paste what it removes in a pastebin please. with the commandline you use
[06:33] <chadeldridge> np ... anyone know ?
[06:33] <defrysk> mat1980,  switching beteween gdm and kdm is done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:33] <hermit_> hi all, anyone recommend a dvd-burner to buy for my Ubuntu box?
[06:33] <mezziah> back.
[06:33] <yondie> geniusvicks, untick the volume visible
[06:33] <wols> !effects | chadeldridge
[06:33] <ubotu> chadeldridge: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:33] <wols> hermit_: an NEC one
[06:33] <pihus> suddenly (I think after a update few weeks ago) I can't see how much battery I have left. It just says that it's running AC power, even if it isnt't
[06:33] <pihus> what could be the issue?
[06:33] <hermit_> ok wols thanks
[06:33] <wols> hermit_: but: #hardware
[06:33] <hwilde> !hardware | hermit_
[06:33] <ubotu> hermit_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:34] <hermit_> ok thank you
[06:34] <cov3rt> wols: unsure. i'm a newbie at this, trying to get my laptop running ubuntu. how do i find out?
[06:34] <pihus> nobody knows? :s
[06:35] <TheCreationist> I just installed Feisty from the live cd, but when logging into gnome, the screen goes completely white with a mouse cursor.  What did I do wrong and how do I fix it?
[06:35] <wols> cov3rt: lspcmcia
[06:35] <neverblue> anyone able to help with my update issue?
[06:35] <geniusvicks> yondie, Thanks
[06:35] <dyrne> pihus: try booting one of the older kernels at grub menu
[06:35] <wols> neverblue: are you ignoring me?
[06:35] <jintxo> hermit_, I have a Pioneer 110 (or 111 can'tremember) works fine
[06:35] <neverblue> TheCreationist, setup your xorg.conf properly?
[06:35] <pihus> ke-, gonna try it out real soon
[06:35] <wols> hermit_: all IDE ones will work pretty much
[06:35] <ochosi> hi, i already asked before, but: my usb-hdd doesn't spin down correctly when being disconnected after being unmounted (also from the terminal). it produces some kind of clicking noise...
[06:35] <TheCreationist> neverblue: It's a fresh install.  Haven't been able to login at all yet.
[06:35] <phretor> hi there
[06:36] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Well, I'm logged in, but only in CLI.
[06:36] <damire> hola
[06:36] <neverblue> TheCreationist, ok, so what error?
[06:36] <phretor> how do I enable kernel event auditing?
[06:36] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26621/
[06:36] <hwilde> TheCreationist, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:36] <TheCreationist> neverblue: There is no error message.  The mouse still moves, but the screen is completely white.
[06:36] <damire> hola algun jaquer ?
[06:36] <neverblue> TheCreationist, in the cli, check dmesg
[06:36] <mezziah> hola damire, en este canal so se habla ingls, visita #ubuntu-es para hablar en spanol
[06:36] <hwilde> !es | damire
[06:36] <ubotu> damire: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <neverblue> might give you a hint to any error
[06:36] <damire> ok gracias
[06:37] <dyrne> one of these days im going to learn spanish..
[06:37] <hwilde> easier to build an irc client with auto translation built in
[06:37] <neverblue> I updated this system last week (the one I pulled the HD out of, and added it to my current system) and when I rebooted, I got this error: 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) ' :: i can read the system just fine, I think the update (might have been the update with the linux-headers, etc...) might have messed up my "boot sequence"?
[06:37] <defrysk> dyrne, to learn spanish /j #ubuntu-es ;p
[06:38] <claudio> antos
[06:38] <dyrne> bien!
[06:38] <mat1980> wols: uhm... strange thing. The problem is on kubuntu. If I install gnome-desktop and than try to remove gdm it will ask to remove a lot of packeges of gnome (not only metapackages). On ubuntu this doesn't happen. Ok, it doesn't matter. It's not a problem. Thanks.
[06:38] <Sted85> ciao a tutti
[06:38] <phretor> nothing about auditing?
[06:38] <mezziah> hehe dyrne i already started learning.. as it seems it's worth.
[06:38] <hwilde> pihus, you could reinstall acpi packages
[06:38] <wols> fuzzy_logic: ok. you're clean. no nvidia X driver files/libs. apt-get clean to delete the old .deb files for installing (warning: it will delete all other files in your apt-cache. but you can always reload them frm ubuntu.com. and it will free a lot of diskspace probably)
[06:38] <Sted85> !list
[06:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:38] <TheCreationist> Okay, this irc client sucks.  What is a good cli client?  I installed ircii, but it says command not found.
[06:38] <defrysk> mat1980, JUST DONT REMOVE GDM
[06:38] <hwilde> TheCreationist, XChat
[06:38] <neverblue> TheCreationist, xchat
[06:39] <hwilde> TheCreationist, or just plain "irc"
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok will do that
[06:39] <defrysk> mat1980, to switch between gdm kdm do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:39] <hwilde> !kubuntu | mat1980
[06:39] <claudio> douglas santos do nacsimento
[06:39] <ubotu> mat1980: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what now?
[06:39] <phretor> ok, do I have to wander that nobody does know what auditing is?
[06:39] <mat1980> defrysk: ok, thanks.
[06:39] <wols> fuzzy_logic: now you do a normal nvidia install
[06:39] <wols> !nvidia | fuzzy_logic
[06:39] <ubotu> fuzzy_logic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:39] <jintxo> TheCreationist, did you mean irssi?
[06:40] <TheCreationist> Okay, XChat is for gnome... I asked about for the CLI ;)
[06:40] <hwilde> TheCreationist, just plain "irc" works nice in the terminal.
[06:40] <neverblue> xchat is not just for Gnome :)
[06:40] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok thanks
[06:40] <neverblue> its a GUI irc cleint
[06:40] <neverblue> if you want a cli irc, sudo aptitude install irssi
[06:40] <wols> TheCreationist: irssi is the best for cli. none othre :)
[06:40] <defrysk> neverblue, its a gtk2 app
[06:40] <wols> TheCreationist: also use screen then
[06:40] <neverblue> defrysk, im sure
[06:41] <hwilde> TheCreationist, /usr/bin/irc   it is good enough
[06:41] <defrysk> neverblue, suited to gnome
[06:41] <defrysk> and xfce4
[06:41] <wols> defrysk: but not a gnome one. doesn't link to gnome libs
[06:41] <neverblue> that gnome-xchat
[06:41] <mat1980> hwilde: I know there is kde irc channel, I just thought that the ubuntu should has the same problem. I was wrong.
[06:41] <neverblue> which is different than xchat
[06:41] <defrysk> wols, ok, agree
[06:41] <defrysk> gnome-xchat is your royal uglyness
[06:41] <neverblue> I updated this system last week (the one I pulled the HD out of, and added it to my current system) and when I rebooted, I got this error: 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) ' :: i can read the system just fine, I think the update (might have been the update with the linux-headers, etc...) might have messed up my "boot sequence"?
[06:41] <neverblue> defrysk, i like a feature or two
[06:42] <TheCreationist> Okay, I'm back.  I reconfigured my xorg.conf but I still only get a white screen when logging into gnome.
[06:42] <neverblue> type multiple lines from the same user, the username isnt added on the next lines
[06:42] <hwilde> neverblue, it is probably a grub error locating partition (0,0) the harddrive probably is recognized as something else now
[06:42] <cov3rt> wols: sorry, i haven't actually got it with me. :s
[06:42] <defrysk> neverblue, tried it , but used xchat too long to appreciate the gnome version
[06:42] <neverblue> hwilde, what do I need to do to troubleshoot?
[06:42] <neverblue> defrysk, you wouldn't appreciate it :)
[06:43] <defrysk> neverblue, hehe
[06:43] <phretor> ok, nobody does know what auditing is. Doesn't #ubuntu-security exist?
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss2
[06:43] <asep> ng two NIC on ubuntu 7.04 server
[06:43] <neverblue> i used it for 2-3 days, and wanted to rewrite it
[06:43] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:43] <wols> cov3rt: do you know what brand/model it is. then you can google for it
[06:43] <neverblue> the missing userlist was a big thing for me
[06:43] <hwilde> neverblue, match /boot/grub/menu.lst with the output from "sudo fdisk -l" and make sure it is lookign at the right harddrive and partition
[06:43] <asep> how to configuring two NIC on ubuntu 7.04 server
[06:44] <pihus>  /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found <- what should I install for that? just apt-get install esd doesn't do it
[06:44] <jintxo> TheCreationist, if it's only a gnome problem (like maybe xfce or kde or whatever work fine) and you don't mind loosing your gnome settings, you could try rm'ing all the .gnome or .gnome2 directories in your home directory and restarting gnome, I guess
[06:44] <hwilde> asep, man ifconfig
[06:44] <hwilde> asep, man /etc/network/interfaces
[06:44] <wols> pihus: search for bin/esd filename on packages.ubuntu.org
[06:44] <wols> pihus: some esound package probably
[06:45] <TheCreationist> jintxo: I thought of trying that.  This is a completely fresh install, so that won't be an issue.  I'll give it a shot.
[06:45] <wols> asep: configure them for what? what is your goal?
[06:45] <pihus> esound it is :D tnx
[06:45] <wols> asep: eg. you do want to do NAT with it (a router)?
[06:45] <asep> i want to make my server as router
[06:45] <neverblue> hwilde, can I do that with the HD removed from my system, and added into this one?
[06:45] <jintxo> TheCreationist, if it's fresh fresh, maybe just clean out your home dir completely, make sure you got rid of everything and start from a "clean" profile
[06:45] <hwilde> neverblue, where there's a will there's a way
[06:45] <erUSUL> pihus: enlightment sound daemon esd the sound server of gnome (originaly, eons ago of enlightment). Now is being replaced by pulse audio iirc
[06:46] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i have to reboot now.. i will tell you if it works
[06:46] <k1gw1> asep: insatll webmin on it and connect to it from another machine if you wanna set it up as a router. makes it much easier.
[06:46] <montserrat> ola
[06:46] <montserrat> k te cuentas
[06:46] <pihus> erUSUL, got it working already :)
[06:46] <pihus> am I right that apt-get autoremove isn't really safe?
[06:46] <pihus> it somewhy removed my esound, gnome-session and bunch of other stuff
[06:46] <swooney> hey guys, since the other day my new windows aren't coming up in front, i think i installed avant-window-navigator, could that be the cause?
[06:48] <asep> i had two NIC on my PC but only on e which can detect ?
[06:48] <me353> swooney: highly probable
[06:48] <gharz> guys, how do i type arabic texts?
[06:48] <asep> no
[06:48] <wols> asep: which two nics?
[06:48] <nexous> Hi, when i go to install msttcorefonts from terminal, i get 'E: package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate'
[06:49] <wols> !info avant-window-navigator
[06:49] <ubotu> Package avant-window-navigator does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:49] <ziggy23> Will Ubuntu read a Mac OS X formatted volume (for data recovery purposes)?
[06:49] <wols> !info msttfcorefonts
[06:49] <ubotu> Package msttfcorefonts does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:49] <cyras> hi
[06:49] <cyras> room
[06:49] <wols> ziggy23: I think yes. dunno about write access
[06:49] <nexous> Oh, i thought i had them on there before. Wierd.
[06:50] <wols> nexous: check universe/multiverse. and if it doesn't exist there either: get it from debian, they have it
[06:50] <nexous> wols: alright thanks.
[06:50] <defrysk> !info msttcorefonts
[06:50] <wols> nexous: the fact that apt knwos about it without install candidate says it was in ubuntu at one time at least
[06:50] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:50] <etio> miche
[06:50] <ziggy23> ok do you think I might be able to pull contents off to an external volume ?
[06:50] <wols> defrysk: thanks
[06:50] <defrysk> wols, you had a minor typo ;)
[06:50] <TheCreationist> Okay, a fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty and when trying to log in to gnome, my screen goes completely white with just a mouse cursor.  I have removed all ~/.gnome* and reconfigured the xserver.  What else can I try?
[06:50] <wols> ziggy23: gry it. only one way to find out
[06:51] <wols> defrysk: I ususlly have more than minor ones!
[06:51] <ziggy23> ok thank
[06:51] <defrysk> hehe
[06:51] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it's not working.. it is the same problem, it gives the EXACT same error message.. grrr
[06:51] <wols> TheCreationist: install another window manage (fluxbox!) and select it in gdm
[06:51] <wols> fuzzy_logic: what message?
[06:51] <fuzzy_logic> wols: but i have found something that is strange
[06:52] <fuzzy_logic> wols: that about the kernel module
[06:52] <wols> fuzzy_logic: dmesg output, xorg.log content in a pastebin
[06:52] <gharz> guys, how can i have arabic text input?
[06:53] <ashu18> wols: remember me??? is gonzoism here??
[06:53] <chadeldridge> Am i correct in saying that in Gnome you cannot have different icons on each of your desktops yet?
[06:53] <cov3rt> wols: the card is made by IPWireless. uses 3G UMTS TDD technology. thats all the information i can find
[06:53] <fuzzy_logic> wols: dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26623/.. xorg.log is on the way
[06:54] <wols> ashu18: yes I do. I dunno about him
[06:54] <wols> gharz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=arabic&searchon=all&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[06:54] <sowngold> i thinks to use ubuntu very diffrent
[06:54] <inthepit> hello all.  quick question.  i lost grub can i re-install it from the live or alternate cd?
[06:54] <gharz> thanks
[06:55] <wols> cov3rt: ow. that is no WLAN. that is a mobile phone data card...
[06:55] <wols> cov3rt: tricky
[06:55] <fuzzy_logic> wols: where is the xorg.log placed?
[06:55] <wols> !grub | inthepit
[06:55] <ubotu> inthepit: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:55] <ashu18> wols: does fedora or any other linux distro got better hardware support than ubuntu???
[06:55] <wols> inthepit: yes. see links
[06:55] <wols> ashu18: we dunno. we only know ubuntu...
[06:55] <inthepit> thanks a bunch
[06:55] <chadeldridge> cov3rt:  who is the provider of that card .. .if its anything like my sprint card you will have to use some PPP dialer to make it work after getting it installed
[06:56] <ashu18> oh...
[06:56] <wols> ashu18: you can have luck or you don't. but by all means ubuntu should detect your CD just fine
[06:56] <Scunizi> inthepit, checkout http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm for good grub help.. It was my rescue.
[06:56] <TheCreationist> Okay, I'm booted into recovery mode since the other method keeps locking up the entire system.
[06:56] <wols> TheCreationist: X problems?
[06:56] <TheCreationist> I still can't login to gnome (I get a completely white screen with a mouse cursor) and my system locks up very frequently.
[06:56] <TheCreationist> wols: Yes, I do believe so.
[06:56] <TheCreationist> wols: Fresh install of Feisty
[06:56] <sinnlos> hello i have 2 monitors and i want to have in the second screen the 2. virtual desktop ...
[06:56] <fuzzy_logic> wols: where is the xorg.log?
[06:56] <wols> TheCreationist: what driver what card?
[06:56] <wols> fuzzy_logic: /var/log
[06:57] <sowngold> exit
[06:57] <B2Ka> hey
[06:57] <TheCreationist> wols: I have a GeForce 6200.  I've tried the nv, vesa, and vga drivers so far... same results.
[06:57] <B2Ka> Can I install Amarok on Ubuntu not Kubuntu
[06:57] <defrysk> B2Ka, yes
[06:57] <chadeldridge> B2ka:  yes .. its in the repository
[06:57] <ashu18> B2Ka: yes you can
[06:57] <wols> TheCreationist: your problem is not the videocard and its driver. your problem is gnome
[06:57] <B2Ka> i can install it without install kde?
[06:57] <wols> TheCreationist: create another user and run startx as that user
[06:58] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26624/
[06:58] <ashu18> B2Ka: you can have it without kde
[06:58] <defrysk> B2Ka, you need some kde stuff , like qt to make it work
[06:58] <chadeldridge> B2Ka:  yes ... but you might want to look at Exaile! which is written for gnome
[06:58] <cov3rt> wols: yes it sure isnt behaving itself. pcmcia slot status returns that it recognises something there and what voltage it needs, but that it has no driver.
[06:58] <TheCreationist> wols: Why would that matter?  I've deleted all of my ~/.gnome* directories.
[06:58] <TheCreationist> wols: That would have the same result as a new user, wouldn't it?
[06:58] <wols> fuzzy_logic: glx is 9631, kernel module is 9755. remove the nvidia-glx and install the 9755 glx
[06:59] <ashu18> B2Ka: get an easier nick name...it's very difficult to type 'B2Ka' - 2 capitals, 1 small and a number in the middle
[06:59] <B2Ka> ;p
[06:59] <wols> TheCreationist: that would work too fo course. I'm just eleiminating possibilities. you didn'te tell me that you did that
[06:59] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, use remove --purge
[06:59] <B2Ka> so what i need to install amarok ?
[06:59] <TheCreationist> wols: Oh, I had mentioned it before, you must have just missed it :)
[06:59] <tck> !sound
[06:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:59] <wols> TheCreationist: remove all of gnome (removing libgtk does the trick and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:59] <B2Ka> can you give me the right command?
[06:59] <fuzzy_logic> wols: the new one is not working good.. it must be possible to install just the normal nvidia-glx?? it worked before..
[06:59] <cov3rt> wols: i can't find record of any-one since 2.6.0x kernel even attempting it
[06:59] <wols> TheCreationist: didn't help you for long
[07:00] <fuzzy_logic> defrysk: i tried that.. but that didn't work..
[07:00] <defrysk> B2Ka, you need to install it with synaptic and the dependencies wil be resolved autmagically
[07:00] <endo> !murrine | endo
[07:00] <TheCreationist> wols: Okay, so in recovery mode apparently you only get one tty?
[07:00] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, have you used envy or something ?
[07:00] <wols> cov3rt: what does it recognize? also: don't check only for ubuntu, check for linux in general
[07:00] <endo> does anyone know how I go about installing this? http://murrine.netsons.org/?q=node/36
[07:00] <B2Ka> woow
[07:00] <B2Ka> exaile is nice too
[07:00] <wols> TheCreationist: single user mode I guess :)
[07:00] <fuzzy_logic> defrysk: i have tried that.. yes
[07:01] <B2Ka> but have exaile a plugin with Last.fm ?
[07:01] <TheCreationist> wols: Then I need to reboot first :)
[07:01] <wols> defrysk: he did at least once yes
[07:01] <defrysk> B2Ka, exaile is a nice amarok wannabee
[07:01] <TheCreationist> wols: brb....
[07:01] <defrysk> thought so wols one sev I know the solution
[07:01] <TheCreationist> wols: What was the package you wanted me to remove again?
[07:01] <defrysk> sec
[07:01] <B2Ka> have exaile a last.fm plugin ?
[07:01] <chadeldridge> endo:  download the package, untar it, then inside that directory do a sudo ./configure, then a make, then a sudo make install
[07:01] <wols> fuzzy_logic: nvidia-glx-new is what you want
[07:02] <wols> TheCreationist: dpkg -l|grep libgtk
[07:02] <endo> chadeldridge: thank you
[07:02] <chadeldridge> np .. yell if you need help
[07:02] <wols> TheCreationist: it will remove a LOT of dependencies btw
[07:02] <TheCreationist> wols: Thank you.
[07:02] <TheCreationist> wols: But ubuntu-deskto will install everything I need again, correct?
[07:02] <wols> endo: don't do this
[07:02] <fuzzy_logic> wols: nvidia-glx-new didn't work.. i have tried that before.. my screen was moved like 15 cm.. it HAS to be possible on some way to just install the normal nvidia-glx?? as i said it worked before
[07:02] <saya> helloooo !
[07:02] <B2Ka> hey, does exaile have a last.fm plugin ?
[07:02] <wols> endo: read up on siomething like checkinstall first
[07:02] <endo> wols: what's wrong with murrine? it looks sooo nice
[07:03] <endo> ok
[07:03] <chadeldridge> everyone loves checkinstall ... lol
[07:03] <troopperi> use automatix2 to install nvidia...workin for me geforce fx5500
[07:04] <wols> fuzzy_logic: then look for a nvidia 96.31 kernel module. all I could find is the source for that (which you can use via module-assistant but you have to compile it yourself)
[07:04] <wols> nvidia-kernel-source build-essential module-assistant. you need them all then
[07:04] <fuzzy_logic> wols: how do i to that?
[07:04] <Slipzer0> How do I make mplayer the default video player?
[07:04] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, sorry no solution
[07:04] <Slipzer0> and possibly remove totem?
[07:05] <Panzer_> I have a ati 8500
[07:05] <Panzer_> I have DLed the drivers for it
[07:05] <Panzer_> I think
[07:05] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, try this :
[07:05] <Panzer_> but what I have got says for xorg 7
[07:05] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:05] <cov3rt> wols:  root@austin-laptop:/home/austin# cardctl info ... PRODID_1="IPWireless" ... PRODID_2="3G Data Modem" ... PRODID_3="V 0.1" ... PRODID_4="" ... MANFID=02f2,0100 ... FUNCID=255
[07:05] <Panzer_> should I run that though?
[07:05] <wols> Panzer_: you need 100.xx drivers. not in ubuntu so far. maybe in gutsy. check a backport
[07:05] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:05] <Panzer_> this is older ATI card
[07:06] <fuzzy_logic> defrysk: i have already installed it.. but then i get an error message
[07:06] <wols> defrysk: he already has
[07:06] <defrysk> dam
[07:06] <cov3rt> wols: and  root@austin-laptop:/home/austin# cardctl config
[07:06] <cov3rt> Socket 0:
[07:06] <cov3rt>   Vcc 3.3V  Vpp1 3.3V  Vpp2 3.3V
[07:06] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i installed all that.. what do i have to do now?
[07:06] <wols> fuzzy_logic: m-a
[07:06] <defrysk> fuzzy_logic, what went wrong with the envy package ?
[07:06] <wols> 1ency
[07:06] <wols> !envy
[07:06] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:06] <defrysk> wols, true
[07:06] <wols> defrysk: read the last phrase
[07:06] <defrysk> but i have tested it
[07:07] <endo> wols: looks like a usefull program. thanks a lot
[07:07] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what do you mean by that?
[07:07] <defrysk> and managed to remove it even
[07:07] <danshtr> hi all, I am using NetworkManager. Is it possible to send commands to it via command line?
[07:07] <defrysk> ahwell, have to stop
[07:07] <wols> fuzzy_logic: run it "m-a"
[07:08] <wols> start with "m-a prepare" if you want to stay on cli
[07:08] <fuzzy_logic> wols: do i have to choose prepare?
[07:09] <wols> yes
[07:09] <wols> it will isntall kernel headers too iirc. I forgot them
[07:09] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it says Press Return to continue... what is Return?
[07:09] <chadeldridge> enter
[07:09] <fuzzy_logic> chadeldridge: thanks
[07:10] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what now?
[07:10] <wols> select. choose your kernel module
[07:10] <fuzzy_logic> wols: is the kernel module nvidia-kernel?
[07:10] <CoOlGhOsT> hey.. just got a new hdd. i partioned it and formatted as ext3. now its time for mounting... but how do i grant rw access to all???
[07:11] <neztiti> guys can someone help me
[07:11] <neztiti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26625/
[07:11] <wols> or nvidia-kernel-source yes
[07:11] <lacrymology> I followed the guide in help.ubuntu.org to install the nvidia drivers, but it doesn't find the kernel module in all kernels
[07:11] <fuzzy_logic> wols: do i also have to choose nvidia-kernel-legacy?
[07:11] <lacrymology> can somebody help, please?
[07:11] <neztiti> can one help me with dxr3 card???
[07:11] <wols> neztiti: do what the friendly message says: see dmesg
[07:11] <wols> fuzzy_logic: NO
[07:11] <wols> unless: what nvidia card?
[07:12] <neztiti> wols: yes
[07:12] <jamman> lacrymology, you must recompile with each kernel.
[07:12] <wols> neztiti: have you done what the error says? and?
[07:12] <fuzzy_logic> wols: nvidia gforce go 6600
[07:12] <wols> fuzzy_logic: you're fine. no legacy
[07:12] <wols> only nvidia-kernel
[07:12] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok thanks
[07:12] <wols> that one is for old gf2 cards
[07:12] <jamman> lacrymology, basically, if you have it compiled for one kernel, it won't work on any newer or older one.
[07:13] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what do i have to choose now?
[07:13] <lacrymology> jamman: I know that, but I don't know how to recompile for each kernel
[07:13] <neztiti> wols : em8300: Unknown symbol i2c_bit_del_bus
[07:13] <jamman> lacrymology, are you trying to use the new kernel?
[07:13] <instabin> Can I setup network load balencing over 2 network connections?
[07:13] <jamman> lacrymology, newER anyways...
[07:14] <lacrymology> jamman: yes, of course. So, say there's been a kernel update, what do I have to do after it's been installed in order for the modules to work?
[07:14] <wols> neztiti: some i2c module is missing. locate i2c |grep linux
[07:14] <sinnlos> join #xfce-de
[07:14] <fuzzy_logic> wols: what do i have to choose?
[07:14] <John> Hello everyone.
[07:15] <jamman> lacrymology, if so then you must go back and do the ./configure, then make, then sudo make install, in the directory that has the nvidia drivers, or re run the binary or whatever it is.
[07:15] <jamman> lacrymology, basically, you must redo everything.
[07:15] <darko> hola, alguien pude ayudarme a usar el comando split en ubuntu?
[07:15] <fuzzy_logic> wols: build or install?
[07:15] <wols> build at first
[07:15] <fuzzy_logic> wols: thanks
[07:15] <wols> fuzzy_logic: this is btw installing nvidia the "debian way" mostly :)
[07:15] <John> Does anyone have Limewire working?
[07:16] <eljak> instabin, what do you mean by 2 connections? how your system decides which one to use
[07:16] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok :)
[07:16] <wols> all cause ubuntu fscked up and didn't provide nvidia-kernel drivers anymore but only nnvidia-new-kernel
[07:16] <wols> fuzzy_logic: but it might show the same thing as the nvidia-new-kernel stuff with 15cm distorted picture. no guarantees
[07:17] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it didn't before so i hope now it will not too..
[07:17] <mike__> howdy, I'm trying to enable 3d graphic acceleration ,but when I run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:17] <lacrymology> jamman: I thought ubuntu was supposed to be smart about these things: new kernel packages should reinstall all modules. Point made, how the hell do I know where the drivers are? I just apt-get install nvidia-glx!
[07:17] <fuzzy_logic> it's done i guess.. now just restart x?
[07:17] <mike__> i get an error
[07:17] <wols> fuzzy_logic: could have been another driver and nvidia.com screwed up...
[07:17] <wols> no. install it
[07:17] <mike__> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[07:17] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it asked me if i wanted to install it and i sayed yes.. so i guess it installed
[07:17] <shwag> I am logging into a box using ssh keys.  I want to set my passwd, but it prompts me for my (current) UNIX password. I dont know what it is, but I am logged in. So I can't set it?
[07:17] <jamman> lacrymology, oh, well in that case you should be alright... no x tho? or just the wrong xorg?
[07:18] <wols> mike__: what makes you think that command exists?
[07:18] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i'm going to restart x.. brb
[07:18] <wols> fuzzy_logic: check it with dpkg -l |grep nvidia. always check
[07:18] <mike__> it's inside the ubuntu support forums
[07:18] <jamman> shwag, do you know the root password?
[07:18] <mike__> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html
[07:18] <wols> while the computer is your friend, you still check on him :)
[07:18] <shwag> jamman: i can get it, but im just wondering more as an exercise.
[07:18] <lacrymology> jamman: the xorg.conf is fine, it says Driver "nvidia", startx says it doesn't find the NVIDIA module, so no, I'm not fine
[07:19] <jamman> lacrymology, try sudo modprobe nvidia
[07:19] <jamman> shwag, well, then... guess?
[07:19] <korny> hi
[07:19] <mike__> did you see that wols?
[07:19] <shwag> jamman: not sure i have that much time
[07:19] <jamman> shwag, is it a school box or something like that?
[07:19] <korny> how can i access my usb digicam?
[07:20] <LChris> hi
[07:20] <aimtrainer> hi does anybody have a little thinkpad-experience? I accedently set the boot mode to some kind of analysation instead of quick and now I dont get in the bios anymore..
[07:20] <lacrymology> jamman: modprobe, that was it. Will that work forever, on tihs kernel, or just for this boot?
[07:20] <xst> No matter how hard I try I have not been able to enable an external monitor to my laptop. Every time I configure a secondary monitor in "system settings" X won't restart (using Kubuntu). What should I do?
[07:20] <jamman> korny, you should be able to just plug it in. if that doesn't work, you may have to specify the device to programe.
[07:20] <jamman> lacrymology, that will insert the module into the kernel. if that works, i will help you with the rest.
[07:21] <LChris>  ;)
[07:21] <jamman> lacrymology, now you may need to run "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo gdm"
[07:21] <korny> jamman, i'd like to try via shell. lsusb already knows: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 040a:058f Kodak Co.
[07:21] <jamman> lacrymology, you WILL need to run those commands.
[07:21] <wols> lacrymology: put it in /etc/modules and it will work forever
[07:22] <lacrymology> jamman: wols: it's fine, I broke something before I got the modprobe so I'll have to reinstall
[07:22] <jamman> korny, well, there should be some way to mount it. almost like a flash drive.
[07:22] <cov3rt> wols: did you see what it said?
[07:22] <Carol> hi
[07:22] <jamman> lacrymology, what did you break? i could probably help, if not somebody else should be able to.
[07:22] <korny> jamman: what device is it? /dev/sd*1 does not exist
[07:23] <Erich85> Hello all.  I have Mathematica 6.0 for Linux, I'm trying to figure out how to install it on Feisty Fawn.  Any ideas?
[07:23] <John> Chatting works, but web pages take forever to load but never get 'Could not find page' error is most likely a firewall issue?
[07:23] <jamman> korny, no idea. don't have one. try random dev's
[07:23] <lacrymology> jamman: it's fine, I removed nvidia, thought reinstalling would be faster than twitching with anger
[07:23] <dawall> hey all!  i need to convert a Visio file into .vxd or something else that Dia can read. Got any tips?
[07:23] <wols> cov3rt: yes I did. but all I can tell you is to google and fine software/driver/howto for any linux distro. if you find it, it can be adapted for ubunut
[07:23] <OmegaCenti> My info command seems just to point to the man pages of the commands I am looking up. What gives?
[07:23] <korny> jamman: which devs?
[07:23] <wols> but your device is to exotic to have easy support, sorry
[07:24] <jamman> try something like mount /dev/sd?? and you should be set.
[07:24] <lacrymology> jamman: but now it will probably autoconfigure it to my current kernel, so I'll have to do this again next time
[07:24] <stojance> how do I make my dsl connection start on boot?
[07:24] <OmegaCenti> wols: Its not always very easy to adapt it to ubuntu. However, debian might be the easiest one to "adapt" to ubuntu.
[07:24] <jamman> lacrymology, yeah, it most likely will.
[07:24] <wols> OmegaCenti: I never said it's easy. but if one linux can do it. any can.
[07:24] <wifimonste1> is there a pidgin deb?
[07:25] <OmegaCenti> wols: Not all linuxes use inittab.....
[07:25] <wols> !Pidgin
[07:25] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[07:25] <cov3rt> wols: ohk thanks for trying :) bye all
[07:25] <wols> OmegaCenti: who cares? all use the same kernel and hecen the same drivers. all use the same network stack, the same ppp, etc
[07:25] <OmegaCenti> cov3rt: What were you looking for?
[07:25] <wols> 18:53 < cov3rt> wols: the card is made by IPWireless. uses 3G UMTS TDD technology. thats all the information i can find
[07:25] <wols> a 3G UMTS PCMCIA card. a "Modem"
[07:26] <Erich85> Is it possible to install Mathematica 6.0 onto Ubuntu?
[07:26] <TheCreationist> wols: Okay, I removed and reinstalled all gnome software.  Still the same problem.
[07:26] <wols> yes, mathematica has alinux version
[07:26] <TheCreationist> wols: I should say that the live CD worked flawlessly... I don't understand how it would suddenly be broken.
[07:26] <wols> what does dmesg say? or syslog?
[07:26] <wols> what if you install another window manager (fluxbox) and choose it in gdm?
[07:26] <Peptide> Hi. I've been trying to make rhythmbox recognize my media in my removable hard drive. I've clicked on the "scan for removable media" option on the menu but get no response from the software. This does not work with external hard drives?
[07:26] <jamman> lacrymology, just to let you know, my sig at ubuntu forums is "If at first you don't succed, install, install again..."
[07:27] <lacrymology> jamman: that sounds like a Windows' motto
[07:27] <wols> TheCreationist: some confi got fscked. did you purge when you removed the stuff?
[07:27] <OmegaCenti> wols: I care whenever guides are outdated and talking about lilo which is never used any more and things like inittab have been completely redone and things like the mail command don't even come with ubuntu standard anymore. So yes, soe guides are not that easy to adapt, and this can be quite daunting to some first users. Its almost like saying rsefm (read somebody eles fin manual--in hope that you learn about
[07:27] <OmegaCenti> ours)
[07:27] <TheCreationist> wols: Other than problems with ata2, dmesg doesn't report any errors.
[07:27] <TheCreationist> wols: No, I didn't purge.
[07:27] <wols> lacrymology: the ubunt/debian one goe "....dpkg-reconfigure again, dpkg-reconfigure again...." :)
[07:28] <pha|con> OmegaCenti: slackware still uses lilo, but not inittab.  i think it still uses sysV
[07:28] <Armageddon00> Hello, I'm having some trouble with sound recording through wine.  It deals specificlly with the application ventrilo, and for the record no I cannot use any native apps all my clanmates use this.  The problem is that alsa seems to recognize and record from my mic (I can turn the mic on in the mixer and i hear my voice reverberating through the speakers).  When I try and use alsa in wine with ventrilo I can hear voices, but I cann
[07:28] <wols> TheCreationist: you should. all the system gnome config files. one could have gone bad. but anayways. install fluxbox just for trial
[07:28] <lacrymology> still sounds very much Windows like... except for windows it'd be "reboot" instead
[07:28] <lauriexxx> hello to you all, can anyone help me, i ve installed picasa, and it causing serious conflict, i can seem to remove it via sudo apt-get remove, anbody got a forcing methos?
[07:28] <cov3rt> i was looking for a driver for an IPWireless pcmcia card used by Woosh
[07:28] <freepenguin> hello
[07:29] <wols> pha|con: lilo is a bootlaoder. inittab is part of init (and others), sysv is still used by almost everyone else exccept slack. they use BSD afaik
[07:29] <OmegaCenti> My info command seems just to point to the man pages of the commands I am looking up. What gives?
[07:29] <wols> lacrymology: what does apt say when you try. full output in a pastebin
[07:29] <aimtrainer> Doe sanybody have an idea how I get to a thinkpads bios when I activated diagnostics boot mode?
[07:30] <wols> OmegaCenti: might have to install the info docs for the packages?
[07:30] <pha|con> wols: i know what lilo is. Omega was saying no distro uses it anymore
[07:30] <lacrymology> wols: what? when I try to what?
[07:30] <pha|con> wols: slack is what i run on my main rig at home
[07:30] <wols> aimtrainer: #hardware? perhaps #laptops. or look for thw thinkpad wiki with google
[07:30] <lacrymology> hmm
[07:30] <OmegaCenti> wols: no idea, is that available in one big package or is that some option I need to give to apt or synaptics?
[07:30] <wols> pha|con: does it have a /etc/rc2.d ?
[07:30] <metbsd> i feel kubuntu will delete my winxp partition
[07:30] <lacrymology> reinstalling didn't work.. still not finding NVIDIA
[07:30] <wols> OmegaCenti: use some gnu software doc package. like gcc-doc
[07:31] <aimtrainer> wols thanks I'll try that
[07:31] <OmegaCenti> metbsd: Then you will feel liberated and refreshed. :)
[07:31] <wols> OmegaCenti: or locate .info files
[07:31] <pha|con> wols: no, it does bsd-style.
[07:31] <wols> metbsd: debian not working out?
[07:31] <pha|con> wols: typed one thing while thinking another
[07:31] <user_> hey, guys, i try to make a debian boot floppy with the command "dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync" and i get this "dd: writing `/dev/fd0': Input/output error" as a respont, is it that my floppy disk is fuck up? anyone ;)
[07:31] <wols> pha|con: but you said sysv, why?
[07:31] <metbsd> i tried netbsd, its kde package has permission issue
[07:32] <pha|con> wols: because i was thinking one thing while typing another
[07:32] <user_> oups sry fot the F word :)
[07:32] <metbsd> so i free 8 g to try kubuntu
[07:32] <metbsd> hoping it to not fck up my laptop
[07:32] <wols> user_: maybe fd0u1440 or such?
[07:32] <nosrednaekim> WOW! this channel is packed! (just came from #kubuntu)
[07:32] <freepenguin> www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html  if somebody want link each other..
[07:32] <pha|con> wols: i.e., thinking "ubuntu, redhat, et al run sysv" while trying to type out bsd
[07:32] <user_> wols: hmm
[07:32] <wols> metbsd: the proper *nix swear word is fsck not fck :)
[07:33] <wols> pha|con: almsot only slack stays with BSD afaik :)
[07:33] <Erich85> How do I mount an iso as though it were a CD?
[07:33] <wols> and more and more use grub
[07:33] <metbsd> grub is better
[07:33] <pha|con> wols: i don't like sysv as much as bsd, but i like grub a lot more than lilo
[07:33] <metbsd> will kubuntu work with my wireless card
[07:33] <user_> ohh yeah, it worked with one of the nearly teen floppys.. :D
[07:33] <pha|con> wols: i think i like bsd-style because that's what i learned first
[07:33] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: depends
[07:34] <metbsd> netbsd is actually very good
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: whats the chipset?
[07:34] <wols> metbsd: which card?
[07:34] <metbsd> atheros ag5005
[07:34] <wols> !madwifi
[07:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: come over to #kubuntu
[07:34] <wols> metbsd: is what you need
[07:34] <metbsd> almost all laptop use this chipset
[07:34] <wols> metbsd: far from it
[07:34] <wols> centrine and broadcom is used a lot more
[07:35] <wols> broadcom by the power of dell and centrino is self explanatory :)
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> metbsd: please come over to #kubuntu, I can help you better there.
[07:35] <metbsd> why only 300 in kubuntu
[07:35] <lacrymology> can somebody help me?
[07:35] <pha|con> metbsd: if you're using 7.04 *buntu it should work out of the box...that's the chipset my laptop uses.
[07:35] <lacrymology> soundwave@Optimus:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[07:35] <lacrymology> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[07:35] <wols> metbsd: many kubunut people come here
[07:35] <wols> and just cause it's 1000 people don't mean they have a clue :)
[07:35] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: mine uses that too... but madwifi doesn't work
[07:36] <metbsd> how do i check kubuntu version?
[07:36] <monouser1329906> hey
[07:36] <wols> !version
[07:36] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:36] <tsang> hi
[07:36] <michia> hey, how can i view my partition that i made in windows, its a non windows partition but its in ntfs
[07:36] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it's STILL not working :(:(:(:(.. i get the SAME error again.. while i saw that it installed the right module.. really weird stuff happening here
[07:36] <tsang> does ubuntu run on sparc32?
[07:36] <wols> *sigh*
[07:36] <wols> fuzzy_logic: any traces left of 9755? what does dpkg -l say about it?
[07:36] <pha|con> my wifi has worked out of the box for the past 3 releases
[07:36] <took> Hello I want to make changes to a directory without being root can I do that?
[07:37] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: whats your laptop?
[07:37] <monouser1329906> no
[07:37] <Viper550> took: no, unless you change the permissions, which require being root
[07:37] <pha|con> nosrednaekim: satellite m35
[07:37] <wols> took: only if you have permissions for it
[07:37] <musiq> Which program (which fits on a boot disk) should i use to format my entire hard disk, and than create partitions for ubuntu?
[07:37] <lacrymology> please help me? nvidia drivers not working on i386 specific kernels for some reason..
[07:37] <mc44> tsang: should do
[07:37] <pha|con> nosrednaekim: it sets at home behind my tv acting as a server now
[07:38] <took> I have permissions for it Im the only user of the computer.... I cant make any changes to the directly unless Im root which is annoying (its an mplayer folder)
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: heh, my dad has the same computer.... but I don't think it has the AR5005G
[07:38] <metbsd> weird
[07:38] <mc44> tsang: at least, there is an ultrasparc server cd
[07:38] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26628/ it's all 9631
[07:38] <metbsd> i dl kubuntu, but it says ubuntu 7.04
[07:38] <lacrymology> took, what directory, and what's the filesystem?
[07:38] <tsang> ultrasparc = sparc64
[07:38] <pha|con> nosrednaekim: it's what i've got...there are subversion of the m35, tho.  mine's m35-s160-something
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: ok..
[07:39] <wols> fuzzy_logic: modinfo nvidia
[07:39] <wols> and the xorg.log. paste both
[07:39] <Ayarcy> Where can I find documentation on setting up a local .deb package server?  The packaging guide on help.ubuntu.com only tells you how to make the .debs, not how to serve them.
[07:39] <user_> lol, one of teen floppys that finaly works, and now i have to burn boot image on it to start, and the take it and burn root image to use root, one floppy wor all tasks, huh..
[07:39] <metbsd> how do i install chinese fonts for kubuntu?
[07:39] <wols> you have 2 nvidia-kernel files. what are they?
[07:39] <wols> versions I mean
[07:40] <took> I want to paste some fonts in the mplayer font directory (/usr/share/mplayer/font/) however I cant see the paste option cannot be used in nautilus until I go with root privileges
[07:40] <fuzzy_logic> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26635/ xorg.log is coming
[07:40] <pha|con> nosrednaekim: on your restricted drivers list it doesn't list the atheros chipset driver?
[07:40] <eleytheross> when I use wget -cib url-list, and I get disconnected, it doesnt resume the job, why?
[07:40] <wols> took: fonts should be world readable I think. go to the terminal and use cp
[07:40] <GizDrak> does fdisk see gpt disk labels?
[07:40] <vzalez> hola
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: oh yes, it does, but madwifi doesn't work. Trust me, i've worked for hours with the people over at #madwifi
[07:41] <pha|con> nosrednaekim: that's really weird
[07:41] <vzalez> hay alguin que quiera hablar un rato conmigo
[07:41] <wols> GizDrak: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=ubuntu+gpt seems to say it can since around edgy
[07:41] <fuzzy_logic> wols: the xorg.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26640/.. its pretty much the same as the old one i would say
[07:41] <wols> !es | vzalez
[07:41] <ubotu> vzalez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:41] <GizDrak> wols: thanks
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: if you go up the madwifi page, the 5005 is not officially working yet...lost of conflicting reports
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> *lost
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> *lots
[07:42] <pha|con> nosrednaekim:  guess i'm one of the lucky ones then
[07:42] <wols> fuzzy_logic: lsmod |grep nvidia. does it show loaded?
[07:42] <Erich85> wols:  What is dmesg or syslog?  The problem I'm finding is that there isn't a clear installation program that I can use on the CD.
[07:42] <lacrymology> ok, no
[07:42] <lacrymology> wait a second
[07:42] <wols> Erich85: dmesg is a nice program. syslog is a /var/log/syslog file
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> pha|con: guess so...
[07:42] <vzalez> haber si hay alguien que quiera conversar un rato en espaol
[07:42] <cotyrothery> how do i make wow run in openGL
[07:43] <wols> Erich85: ask wolfram research not us
[07:43] <lacrymology> I have a 64b machine running x86 ubuntu. Do I run the 386 or the generic kernel?
[07:43] <eleytheross> when I use wget -cib url-list, and I get disconnected, it doesnt resume the job, why?
[07:43] <greyfrog> !es | vzalez
[07:43] <ubotu> vzalez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:43] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i'm not sure.. this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26641/
[07:43] <wols> vzalez: english only in this channel. NO espanol
[07:43] <Erich85> wols:  Ah, theres a shell script called "MathInstaller", how do I run that?
[07:43] <wols> it's loaded :( damn
[07:43] <wols> or: do a rmmod and the modprobe nvidia again
[07:44] <wols> all sudo of course
[07:44] <hup3> can you help me?
[07:44] <hup3> i want those glass effects in my ubuntu. beryl is working fine.
[07:44] <hup3> what can i do?
[07:44] <eleytheross> when I use wget -cib url-list, and I get disconnected, it doesnt resume the job, why?
[07:44] <lacrymology> wols, modprobe nvidia tells me Error running install command for nvidia
[07:44] <took> how do I tell mplayer which font to use as subtitle?
[07:44] <Erich85> Ah, Beryl has made my Ubuntu experience unbelievably great.  It's hard to communicate how pretty it is to Windows users.
[07:45] <wols> lacrymology: self compiled?
[07:45] <cotyrothery> can anyone tell me how i make world of warcraft run on openGL
[07:45] <lacrymology> wols, apt-get'ted
[07:45] <wols> cotyrothery: winehq can
[07:45] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:45] <wols> lacrymology: and apt-gettted kernel too? both from ubunut.com or some autmatix, envy, etc stuff?
[07:46] <aquo> where can i find the xubuntu seeds for germinate?
[07:46] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it says Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. that's because i use the envy driver now (it's not working well.. but its temporarily), but the strange thing is that it says nvidia_new.. don't you think?
[07:46] <wols> !effects | hup3
[07:46] <ubotu> hup3: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <hup3> ok, tks
[07:46] <took> hello, how do I tell mplayer which font to use as subtitle?
[07:46] <lacrymology> wols, all from ubuntu.com. I'm thinking it might be: I'm running x86 ubuntu on an AMD64, and a i386 kernel
[07:46] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I have no clue about envy, neither do I support it. see the factoid
[07:46] <lacrymology> wols, maybe a generic kernel?
[07:46] <wols> lacrymology: no. that is fine
[07:46] <cotyrothery> wols: were on there site should i look?
[07:47] <dyrne> took: i know its a lot of output but mplayer --help will tell you i think
[07:47] <wols> lacrymology: are you using sudo?
[07:47] <lacrymology> wols, yes, yes
[07:47] <wols> cotyrothery: winehq.com and #winehq
[07:47] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it's not about envy.. it's about that it says that it isn't loading the nvidia_new module.. could that mean that there are still traces left of nvidia-glx-new??
[07:47] <wols> sudo modprobe nvidia?
[07:47] <dyrne> took: actually there is a default ttf file i think you can place
[07:47] <oscurochu> How do I change my screen resolution to 1280x960?
[07:47] <lacrymology> wols, module NVIDIA not found
[07:47] <dyrne> took: too
[07:47] <dyrne> !fixres | oscurochu
[07:47] <ubotu> oscurochu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:47] <wols> fuzzy_logic: ina config file like /etc/modules perhaps but i can't load it since it's not there anymore
[07:47] <lacrymology> wols, FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[07:48] <crepe> iyooooo
[07:48] <wols> lacrymology: then you need to install it
[07:48] <wols> lacrymology: always paste the FULL message
[07:48] <crepe> wats
[07:48] <Erich85> My problem with installing the NVIDIA driver was simply that I had to boot as both nolapic and noapic.
[07:48] <fuzzy_logic> wols: shall i look there?
[07:48] <crepe> popin
[07:48] <wols> Erich85: what chipset?
[07:48] <crepe> wats popin
[07:48] <lacrymology> wols, that last one was the full message, and I have apt-get'ed it
[07:48] <crepe> fuk u
[07:48] <Erich85> wols:  I have a Nvidia Geforce Go 6150
[07:49] <fuzzy_logic> wols: no indeed it's not there anyone
[07:49] <oscurochu> How do I change my screen resolution to 1280x1024?
[07:49] <wols> lacrymology: after long prodding. dpkg -l |grep nvidia. paste it in a pastebin
[07:49] <fuzzy_logic> *anymore
[07:49] <crepe> fuck u
[07:49] <took> dyrne, yes thats what I use (rename font to subfont) but since Im experimenting which font to use its quite tedious
[07:50] <TheRedWave> i have installed a new monitor and video card and i am wondering how to fix x i knw that i can start a ive cd and copy over the newly generated x.org file but is the a command to redo x
[07:50] <fuzzy_logic> wols: ok now i did sudo modprobe nvidia.. what now?
[07:50] <wols> ompaul: it was a typo. he fscked the wrong device. that's all
[07:50] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I don't do envy
[07:50] <lacrymology> wols, http://slexy.org/paste/3181
[07:50] <ompaul> wols, pm me
[07:51] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i don't use envy.. i've changed nv (from envy) to nvidia.. and modprobe nvidia went fine now.. what do i have to do now?
[07:51] <oscurochu> Can someone help me? How do I change my screen resolution to 1280x1024?
[07:51] <fuzzy_logic> wols: can you help me?
[07:52] <wols> fuzzy_logic: I don't support envy
[07:52] <GizDrak> This is driving me crazy I have /dev/sdb1 par got it all formated has ext3 ubuntu and fdisk say it is 18gb if I mount it I see all 2.1tb but it worries me that it think it is 18gb and not 2.1gb
[07:52] <wols> fuzzy_logic: but look at this http://slexy.org/paste/3181
[07:52] <wols> that's how dpkg -l | grep nvidia should look like
[07:52] <fuzzy_logic> wols.... i'm not using envy
[07:52] <wols> fuzzy_logic: you said it were
[07:52] <lacrymology> fuzzy_logic, if modprobe went fine, you should restart X?
[07:53] <wols>  that's because i use the envy driver now
[07:53] <wols>           (it's not working well.. but its temporarily),
[07:53] <wols> lacrymology: is your nvidia driver loaded? check lsmod
[07:53] <fuzzy_logic> wols+lacrymology: i'm going to restart x now.. brb
[07:54] <oscurochu> Can somebody help me?
[07:54] <lacrymology> wols, of course it's not.. modprobe nvidia doesn't even find the module
[07:54] <wols> lacrymology: find /lib -name nvidia*
[07:54] <lacrymology> but lsmod | grep nvidia returns nothing
[07:54] <lacrymology> wols, they're there
[07:55] <wols> lacrymology: do it the bad way: insmod <exact path to nvidia>
[07:55] <lacrymology> http://slexy.org/paste/3182 just in case
[07:55] <wols> lacrymology: you did a custom kernel=
[07:55] <fuzzy_logic> wols: it's still not working.. can you give me that pastebin link again?
[07:55] <wols> ?
[07:55] <wols> http://slexy.org/paste/3181
[07:55] <saintz0r> hey there. i've been trying to install libtorrent on ubuntu 7.04 and it keeps asking me for gcc (i have gcc installed, i unistalled it and reinstalled about 3-4 times). this is what i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26642/
[07:55] <wols> fuzzy_logic: also: never ever go out of irc when you try your X
[07:56] <wols> it's not needed
[07:56] <lacrymology> wols, no, I didn't
[07:56] <wols> lacrymology: what about the compiling and all?
[07:56] <metbsd> how do i get wireless to work?
[07:56] <metbsd> it's ath0
[07:56] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i have now irc open in x.. so when i restart x it closes by itself
[07:56] <metbsd> detected by kernel already
[07:56] <wols> what kernel are you running?
[07:57] <wols> fuzzy_logic: how can you check X when you have vesa or nv in the xorg.conf?
[07:57] <chadeldridge> saintz0r:  make sure you have G++ installed as well
[07:57] <mc44> saintz0r: whats wrong with the version of libtorrent in the repos?
[07:57] <lacrymology> wols, I let apt-get and automatic updates to deal with that. It's a 2.6.20-16-386
[07:57] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i change it back to nvidia
[07:57] <stefg> lacrymology: if you install the *-lowlatency image is advisable to install the linux-restricted-modules-*-lowlatency as well
[07:57] <wols> saintz0r: apt-get install build-essential
[07:57] <TylerIsACow> I am having an awful time getting xvidcap to work on my x86_64 system does anybody know of a place I can simply download a deb that is compiled for 64 bit? I am on Fiesty 7.04
[07:57] <lacrymology> stefg, I don't want the lowlatency
[07:57] <lacrymology> I dont even know what it does
[07:58] <wols> lacrymology: more responsive for desktops
[07:58] <fuzzy_logic> wols: here is the output of my dpkg -l | grep nvidia: http://slexy.org/paste/3183
[07:58] <lacrymology> wols, in exchange for what? this is a development box
[07:58] <oscurochu> How do I change my screen resolution to 1280x1024? I tried to and the best screen resolution available in the drop list is 800x600.
[07:58] <stefg> !fixres | oscurochu
[07:58] <ubotu> oscurochu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:59] <wols> lacrymology: it's for mmedia productin for example. usually latency goes for throughput
[07:59] <chadeldridge> oscurochu:  edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to include the 1280x1024 option
[07:59] <saintz0r> thanks you guys its working
[07:59] <saintz0r> >:D<
[07:59] <fuzzy_logic> wols: any idea what i should do now?
[07:59] <chadeldridge> np saint
[07:59] <lacrymology> wols, insmod says insmod: error inserting '/lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.20-15-386/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[07:59] <wols> fuzzy_logic: apt-get install irssi, /connect irc.freenode.org, /join ubuntu
[07:59] <TylerIsACow> I assume by the lack of an answer that nobody knows about my xvidcap problem so here is another one: On every opengl application i run the video flickers does anybody have a fix for that?
[07:59] <tdoggette> flomius
[08:00] <wols> fuzzy_logic: runn that in a ctrl+alt+f2 console and use ctrl+at+f3 for running "startx"
[08:00] <chadeldridge> TylerIsACow:  more info please .. are you running Beryl ?
[08:00] <TylerIsACow> yes i am running beryl
[08:00] <metbsd> hey what's password for sudo?
[08:00] <chadeldridge> disable it .. see if you still have the issue
[08:00] <greyfrog> metbsd, your password
[08:00] <POVaddct> metbsd: your user password
[08:00] <TylerIsACow> alrighty one moment
[08:00] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i already have irssi.. but it's easier in X because then i can look things up on the internet too
[08:00] <stefg> !root | metbsd
[08:00] <ubotu> metbsd: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:00] <fuzzy_logic> wols: any ideas about my problem?
[08:00] <lacrymology> wols, ok, found the problem
[08:01] <lacrymology> wols, there's a lot of nvidia module but no nvidia.mod.o under -16-386
[08:01] <powhatanBob> what is a good utility to create and burn CD/DVD ISO images?
[08:01] <TylerIsACow> to turn off beryl is it good enough to just select another window manager out of the beryl-manager or do i have to kill the process entirely
[08:01] <chadeldridge> you can just select metacity or whatever
[08:01] <CoOlGhOsT> i need some help mounting a drive... it keeps changing placement in the /dev hierachy
[08:02] <HawkeV> mount via uuid
[08:02] <cgannon> anybody willing to give me a hand with setting up a working samba share? I'm running feisty and I've set up the share to a directory in my home dir. It's set to rw. When I try to mount the share in windows at //myip/Media (the name of the share, right?) I cannot authenticate. The dialog comes up, but I can't get past it despite using my correct username and password.
[08:02] <fuzzy_logic> wols: i have to go now.. i will come back asap.. i hope we will solve the problem then.. thanks for your help so far.. very much appreciated
[08:02] <wols> fuzzy_logic: you have rmmod nvidia and modrpobed it again?
[08:02] <CoOlGhOsT> HawkeV: I would love to if i knew how... can u give a hand?
[08:02] <CoOlGhOsT> HawkeV: its a new disk i just put in.
[08:02] <wols> cgannon: sudo smbpasswd sambauser
[08:02] <lacrymology> how do I remove old kernel images?
[08:02] <wols> make the name of it the same as your normal system user
[08:03] <CoOlGhOsT> HawkeV: its partioned and formatted
[08:03] <wols> lacrymology: with apt-get remove
[08:03] <stefg> cgannon: samba authentication by deafault is separate from login authentication. read man smbpasswd, and the !samba factoid
[08:03] <jharr> Is upstart suppose to eventually replace the init.d scripts?
[08:03] <cgannon> thanks much, all. I'll give it a try now.
[08:03] <powhatanBob> Is that HawkeV from thunderlord/strong spirits/mud?
[08:03] <wols> lacrymology: that is a problem which is why I'M a bit confused. I looked it up but couldn't find it either
[08:03] <HawkeV> no Bob, tisn't
[08:04] <powhatanBob> :(
[08:04] <HawkeV> nice to know that there's someone out there using my handle tho
[08:04] <HawkeV> heh
[08:04] <stefg> !samba | cgannon
[08:04] <ubotu> cgannon: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:04] <lacrymology> wols, I'll just uninstall the old kernels and try reinstalling nvidia
[08:04] <TylerIsACow> nope it doesn't flicker without beryl is there a way to get around it and still keep beryl cuz i want to play frets on fire (an opengl guitar hero knockoff) and beryl is just awesome. Or perhaps is there some way to automatically disable beryl when i run frets on fire but reenable it when i quit it
[08:04] <cgannon> I just want to say that I love you guys -so- much.
[08:04] <lacrymology> wols, and see what happens
[08:04] <marperez> ola
[08:04] <rustalot> How do I purge and reinstall Java on my computer?\
[08:04] <chadeldridge> you can automatically disable beryl with a script .. google it its easy to find
[08:04] <HawkeV> cgannon: this is #ubuntu, what did you expect?
[08:05] <TylerIsACow> thanks very much chadeldrige i shall do that
[08:05] <Sean> lol
[08:05] <cgannon> HawkeV: I'm a first time user of Ubuntu. I'm used to Gentoo and it taking hours to figure anything out.
[08:05] <n3rdism> gentoo LOL
[08:05] <wols> lacrymology: remove nvidia stuff first with apt-get remove --purge
[08:06] <cgannon> Gentoo has it's merits... But damn is Ubuntu awesome.
[08:06] <HawkeV> n3rdism: you use ubuntu, and you're saying LOL about gentoo?
[08:06] <mik3> is there an easy way to get w32codecs now or do i still need to get the .deb
[08:06] <nothingssomethin> hellow room i have a question
[08:06] <stefg> cgannon: rumour has ist that *ubuntu* is an ancient african saying for /tired of compiling gentoo/ :-)
[08:06] <CoOlGhOsT> HawkeV: are you going to help me a little or am I just waiting in vain?
[08:07] <neverblue> I updated this system last week (the one I pulled the HD out of, and added it to my current system) and when I rebooted, I got this error: 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) ' :: i can read the system just fine, I think the update (might have been the update with the linux-headers, etc...) might have messed up my "boot sequence"?
[08:07] <nothingssomethin> what is your question
[08:07] <chadeldridge> you get that PM TylerIsACow ?
[08:07] <cgannon> stefg: haha. I think that might be it.
[08:07] <nothingssomethin> i just loged in
[08:07] <TylerIsACow> if i did i didnt see it haha
[08:08] <oskude> hi, i got an old HP E-PC 40 and installed feisty (for my mom). but theres a 30sec long show stopper -> http://osku.de/feisty-20070621-1.png. it seems that its caused by the CD-ROM drive. when i remove the CD-ROM drive, the 30sec "delay" is gone. what could i test ?
[08:08] <chadeldridge> small flood here then .. sorry
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:26 PM) chadeldridge: here is the script
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:31 PM) chadeldridge: #!/bin/bash
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:35 PM) chadeldridge: killall -s USR2 beryl-manager
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:42 PM) chadeldridge: ut2004 $@ ;
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:47 PM) chadeldridge: killall -s USR2 beryl-manager
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:51 PM) chadeldridge: beryl & emerald --replace &
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:55 PM) chadeldridge: exit 0
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:06:58 PM) chadeldridge: thats it
[08:08] <chadeldridge> (02:07:09 PM) chadeldridge: replace ut2004 with the path and name of the app you wish to run
[08:08] <stefg> !paste | chadeldridge
[08:08] <ubotu> chadeldridge: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:08] <chadeldridge> go ahead .. hit the bot !flood thing on me now
[08:08] <chadeldridge> good mods
[08:08] <mon^rch> my lcd tv isnt scaling properly... help please...
[08:09] <TylerIsACow> and this will kill it if i run a certain program or should i insert that into the frets on fire script
[08:09] <neverblue> anyone help with that booting error?
[08:09] <doddi> anyone able to help with a c++ problem i have?
[08:09] <joh_n> does madwifi come already installed with ubuntu?
[08:09] <stefg> neverblue: this could be related to the nwly adopted ubuntu habit of mounting by UUID
[08:09] <neverblue> stefg, oh?
[08:09] <wols> !madwifi
[08:09] <stefg> !uuid | neverblue
[08:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:09] <ubotu> neverblue: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:10] <chadeldridge> you have to use that script to launch any app that you wish to turn beryl off for
[08:10] <chadeldridge> just replace teh ut2004 with your app name and voila
[08:10] <TylerIsACow> and when i exit the app it will simply come back? very awesome! thanks for the help
[08:10] <chadeldridge> yes
[08:10] <chadeldridge> auto relaunches
[08:11] <saintz0r> what else doest it want from me now?!!? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26644/ :(
[08:11] <stefg> chadeldridge: instead of floodin #ubuntu why not ask #beryl or #ubuntu-effects... no wobbly windows support in here
[08:11] <neverblue> stefg, is it best to troubleshoot from my own system, or put the HD back in, boot with a Live CD?
[08:11] <nothingssomethin> (anyone in chat#  i have a problem and i would liek to know if it might be solved any time soon #any free listeners#
[08:11] <chadeldridge> stefg ... what you talkin bout willus
[08:11] <yurimxpxman> could someone please help me with this error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26643/
[08:11] <mik3> is there an easy way to get w32codecs now or do i still need to get the .deb
[08:12] <yurimxpxman> mik3: add the mediubuntu repositories
[08:12] <saintz0r> btw: that happesn when installing libtorrent
[08:12] <nothingssomethin> try vlc media player my friend
[08:12] <mik3> probably easier to find a .deb
[08:12] <TylerIsACow> /setaway
[08:12] <dotpavan> nothingssomethin, you havent asked your question.. ask and someone might be able to help
[08:12] <nothingssomethin> synaptec package manager
[08:12] <stefg> neverblue: best bet would be to leave it as it is, boot the Desktop CD and evaluate the situation from there.
[08:12] <kawds> Hello, i am using Nvidia Twinview with two LCDs, i want one LCD to rotate, how do i do that?
[08:12] <neverblue> ugh
[08:12] <TheCreationist> Okay, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty, but when trying to login to gnome, the screen goes completely white with just a mouse cursor.  I've tried removing all ~/.gnome* directories, but no luck.  I installed fluxbox and it works fine.  Anyone able to help with this?
[08:13] <neverblue> TheCreationist, still having issues?
[08:13] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Yes.
[08:13] <nothingssomethin> ok well are you fimilar with the Timex Data Link pda watch???##dotpavan##
[08:13] <neverblue> TheCreationist, in the cli, check dmesg
[08:13] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I got Fluxbox working just fine, though... it's gnome that doesn't work at all.
[08:13] <neverblue> I think that was my last post to you
[08:14] <neverblue> did you check dmesg?
[08:14] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Yes... no errors that I could see (other than referring to ata2)
[08:14] <neverblue> hmmm
[08:14] <dyrne> TheCreationist: i dont know what youve tried but id rm -fr ~/.gconf to make sure its not a profile issue
[08:14] <neverblue> is it showing in your processes?
[08:14] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Is what showing?
[08:15] <neverblue> what your trying to load
[08:15] <neverblue> so Gnome
[08:15] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I know that gnome is working under the white screen because I can hear my instant messanger making sounds as people log in and out.
[08:15] <wols> TheCreationist: create a new user and try it
[08:15] <nothingssomethin> ##mik3## many codec problems can be resolved by downloading vlc media player simple search in package manager
[08:15] <dotpavan> nothingssomethin, see last para at http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical/topic/com.fultus.linux.howtos/howtos/Laptop-HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO-8.html
[08:15] <neverblue> so your just not seeing the bar at the top and bottom?
[08:16] <neverblue> what about your background?
[08:16] <nothingssomethin> ## BRB ##
[08:16] <orangey> hey all!
[08:16] <neverblue> do you see a background?
[08:16] <orangey> I'm wondering about handwriting recognition for my tablet running ubuntu.
[08:16] <orangey> Any advice?
[08:16] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I'm not seeing anything... just a completely white screen.
[08:16] <neverblue> white screen
[08:16] <neverblue> does your video card allow duals?
[08:16] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Not that I'm aware of.
[08:16] <neverblue> or do you have multiple video cards?
[08:17] <stefg> TheCreationist: running beryl ?
[08:17] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Nope... just one
[08:17] <Snake007uk> hey guys, is there a new beta of ubuntu ? i.e ubuntu 8??
[08:17] <neverblue> ok, is it on board?
[08:17] <TheCreationist> stefg: It's a fresh install... I don't have beryl installed.
[08:17] <TheCreationist> neverblue: No, it's an AGP GeForce 6200
[08:17] <bruenig> Snake007uk, i.e Ubuntu 7.10 you mean
[08:17] <ali1234> how many packages must be downloaded when doing a net install of feisty?
[08:17] <Snake007uk> yep
[08:17] <neverblue> ok
[08:17] <Snake007uk> bruenig got a link?
[08:17] <neverblue> can you see if the gdm is running?
[08:17] <bruenig> Snake007uk, there is none, you could probably get an alpha, go to #ubuntu+1
[08:18] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I'm in fluxbox... don't know anything about it yet.  One sec.
[08:18] <Snake007uk> k
[08:18] <neverblue> in a terminal
[08:18] <saintz0r> can any one haelp me with installing libtorrent? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26644/
[08:18] <dyrne> !gutsy | Snake007uk
[08:18] <ubotu> Snake007uk: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:18] <POVaddct> Snake007uk: 7.04 is not a version number. it stands for april 2007.
[08:18] <Snake007uk> I got it
[08:18] <Snake007uk> thanks guys
[08:18] <Snake007uk> POVaddct thanks for the explanation :)
[08:19] <UberHalogen> Does 7.04 come with OpenSSH or is it available via apt-get?
[08:19] <nothingssomethin> ##dotpavan## i don't supose there is an gui for this , maybe something atteched but not connected
[08:19] <dyrne> saintz0r: im not sure if this is what you want but rtorrent uses libtorrent i think .. probably not what you want :)
[08:19] <DeFirence> if i make a second session using startx -- :1 , then i goto he first session and start a script that will emulate mouse and keyboard movement aswell as run programs, i then change to the second session using ctrl alt F8 - but when the script tries to do its first thing (open a program) my screen gos blank and then it gos to the login screen, the second session is then gone and the first is logged out, any ideas why?? :S
[08:19] <POVaddct> UberHalogen: ssh client is installed by default, ssh server can be installed with apt-get.
[08:19] <UberHalogen> POVaddct: ok, cool
[08:19] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Okay, gdm is not currently running.
[08:20] <chadeldridge> saintz0r :  you need to install the sigc++ libraries ... they are in the SPM list if you search for them ...
[08:20] <POVaddct> UberHalogen: apt-get install openssh-server
[08:20] <stefg> !info openssh-server | UberHalogen
[08:20] <TheCreationist> neverblue: But the login screen works just fine.
[08:20] <neverblue> ok, look at your xorg.conf
[08:20] <ubotu> uberhalogen: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[08:20] <dyrne> DeFirence: can you pastebin the script?
[08:20] <neverblue> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <neverblue> can you put that on pastebin?
[08:20] <UberHalogen> stefg: thanks
[08:20] <neverblue> !pastebin
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:20] <DeFirence> dyrne, its not a linux script :P
[08:20] <Plouj> hi
[08:20] <doddi> can someone tell me what is a good room for c++ issues?
[08:20] <neverblue> doddi, #c ?
[08:20] <neverblue> or #cpp
[08:20] <neverblue> or #c++
[08:20] <DeFirence> its a windows exe script i wrote that im running in wine
[08:21] <Plouj> if anyone has system67's koala, let me know any good and bad things about those machines. Does suspend/hibernate work on them?
[08:21] <doddi> noone responding in them :-S
[08:21] <karrotx> where is the release info held?
[08:21] <DeFirence> it works 100% while im watching it in the session, only screws up when i change sessions
[08:21] <neverblue> im sure they dont sit around all day like we do doddi
[08:21] <neverblue> be patient
[08:22] <doddi> yeah i know - im waiting in most of them. thanks neverblue
[08:22] <stefg> Plouj: I don't know, the good thing is that you're entitled for support from them if  it's not working
[08:22] <TheCreationist> neverblue: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26646/
[08:22] <tyler_d> good afternoon
[08:22] <karrotx> !iscsi
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iscsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <karrotx> !open-iscsi
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open-iscsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <neverblue> doddi i didnt really see a question anyways, just you asking to ask, so how can anyone help if you just keep asking to ask ?
[08:23] <ilya> 
[08:23] <mik3> ok so i added the mediabuntu repo and i can't find any codecs when i do an apt-cache
[08:23] <mik3> what were they renamed to?
[08:23] <neverblue> TheCreationist, do you have an ATI or Nvidia card?
[08:23] <tyler_d> !question doddi:
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question doddi: - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <neverblue> oh wait, nm
[08:23] <ilya> 
[08:23] <stefg> karrotx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213545
[08:23] <NigelS> should :: Windows PPTP VPN client <--> Linux Router <--> Internet <--> Remote VPN Server :: work without needing anything to be done on the router i.e. the VPN server is not behind the linux router/firewall but the windows client is
[08:23] <TheCreationist> neverblue: It's nvidia GeForce 6200
[08:24] <neverblue> TheCreationist, what did you do before?
[08:24] <Plouj> ilya: watch your language
[08:24] <ilya>     
[08:24] <Plouj> stefg: if you pay
[08:24] <neverblue> !ru | ilya
[08:24] <ubotu> ilya:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:24] <edistar> how far is the development of gutsy?
[08:24] <mik3> ok so i added the mediabuntu repo and i can't find any codecs when i do an apt-cache, what are they called now?
[08:24] <ilya> 
[08:24] <orangey> edistar: 1/3
[08:24] <karrotx> !release
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:24] <orangey> : )
[08:24] <Don64> !ru
[08:24] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:24] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I've deleted all ~/.gnome*, reconfigured my xorg.conf a few times, and installed fluxbox to test.
[08:24] <ilya> RUSSIY
[08:25] <edistar> yes, but is it a little stable yet?
[08:25] <neverblue> xorg.conf looks just fine
[08:25] <ilya> YES?
[08:25] <stefg> Plouj: the whole idea of system76 is giving you a fully functional ubuntu box ( the hardware is selected for that), so i guess it works
[08:25] <t00na> hello
[08:25] <daftman> has anybody use eclipse?
[08:25] <dimeotane> I'm tryna get xubuntu on a legacy pii laptop... no sound yet... should I give up on the sound or is there something I can do to get sound working?
[08:25] <Plouj> stefg: yeah, but they can't do miracles
[08:25] <edistar> daftman: yes
[08:25] <Plouj> stefg: I'm wondering what the actual hardware can do
[08:25] <neverblue> why did you delete all ~/.gnome*?
[08:25] <ilya> HELOO)))
[08:25] <mik3> i added the mediabuntu repo and i can't find any codecs when i do an apt-cache, what are they called now?
[08:26] <daftman> edistar, does your eclipse temporary slowed when you try to copy using ctrl+c ?
[08:26] <ilya> STOP
[08:26] <neverblue> mik3, google edgy ubuntu guide
[08:26] <JC_Denton_> after a 6.10 - 7.04 upgrade no keyboard input works on my desktop machine. Can SSH into it. Anyway to get it working again?
[08:26] <Blackgoth> Im looking for a GOOD DC++ for ubuntu, it needs to be able to run in a shell.
[08:26] <daftman> edistar: I find it hangs for about 5-10 seconds
[08:26] <mik3> bleh i'll jus go get a .deb for it, some moron told me to use the mediabuntu repo
[08:26] <edistar> daftman: I didn't notice anything when I copied..
[08:26] <stefg> Plouj: suspend is no miracle any more, and if the acpi isn't broken (which i will assume) it will just work (TM)
[08:26] <ilya> NOU
[08:26] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I deleted that to see if it was a configuration file problem.
[08:26] <t00na> I accidentally removed a a panel applet that told me how well I was connected to a wireless network. I tried the "Add Applet to Panel", but I don't see it there.
[08:26] <daftman> edistar: thanks anyway
[08:26] <t00na> How do I get it back?
[08:27] <Blackgoth> t00na: do you remember the name?
[08:27] <ilya> ))
[08:27] <z0man> Does Ubuntu's kernel support bbtv module?
[08:27] <t00na> Blackgoth: no :(
[08:27] <dimeotane> tonna is it "wireless connection manager?
[08:27] <ilya> WAT?
[08:27] <karrotx> is there something like /etc/release that will tell me what release im on?
[08:28] <dbrewer_rjr> can i configure ubuntu with a FQDN for a domain name that is not currently pointing at the server? I am replacing one server with another
[08:28] <t00na> dimeotane: that could be it.
[08:28] <stefg> !version
[08:28] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:28] <Riyo> I just saw a screenshot of windows, and they had like a computer test thing, that scores your RAM, CPU, etc. Does Linux have something like that?
[08:28] <dimeotane> toona or network manager applet?
[08:28] <Blackgoth> karrotx: cat /etc/debian_version
[08:28] <ilya> BAY
[08:28] <dimeotane> i have both for some reason
[08:28] <tyler_d> Riyo: you can't tell by using it?
[08:28] <Blackgoth> oh wait, ubuntu channel :P
[08:28] <took> t00na, it's called NetworkManager Applet
[08:28] <lunahood> can anyone tell me in which case the "roaming mode" is active for a wlan interface? (it's always active at my lap even if i disable it, after submit and reopen the wlan-settings, it is still active)
[08:28] <took> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[08:28] <dimeotane> toona you could try uninstall and reinstall of the package in synaptic?
[08:29] <t00na> oh, thanks took
[08:29] <ilya> ((((BYI
[08:29] <TheCreationist> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty, but when logging into Gnome, the entire screen goes completely white with only a mouse cursor visible.  Installed Fluxbox and that works fine, but I need gnome working.  Anyone have any ideas?  I have already checked my xorg.conf and it is fine.
[08:29] <karrotx> !packages
[08:29] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[08:29] <chadeldridge> /ignore ilya
[08:29] <chadeldridge> haha
[08:29] <t00na> dimeotane: what package?
[08:29] <sebrock> I have this script running at boot, how can I make the script run in background without actually printing on the screen????
[08:29] <dimeotane> search in synaptic for that name
[08:29] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: video card?
[08:29] <ilya> YES
[08:29] <dbrewer_rjr> can i configure ubuntu with a FQDN for a domain name that is not currently pointing at the server? I am replacing one server with another
[08:29] <z0man> !bbtv
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bbtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <z0man> !kernel
[08:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:29] <z0man> sorry
[08:30] <TheCreationist> tyler_d: It's an nVidia Geforce 6200
[08:30] <gdb> dbrewer_rjr: sure, just fill out the appropriate prompts when you install the OS
[08:30] <dimeotane> !popcorn
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about popcorn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <t00na> oops
[08:30] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: I would try a few different drivers, which one  is in use?
[08:30] <dimeotane> duh  cooked kernels
[08:30] <x2Fusion> Does anyone at all know where I can find a tutorial or something that will help me for sure to get my Belkin WirelessG Adapter to work?
[08:30] <ilya> POPCORN))
[08:30] <t00na> dimeotane: so you want me to search synaptic for NetworkManager Applet?
[08:30] <dbrewer_rjr> gdb: thankx
[08:30] <TheCreationist> tyler_d: I've tried nv, vesa, and vga.
[08:30] <stefg> TheCreationist: first create a fresh user 'test' and lo in to that account, to see if it's a profile issue. (type 'adduser test' in terminal if you don't have X)
[08:30] <x2Fusion> I've tryed ndiswrpper an all :\
[08:31] <dimeotane> toona yea goforit.. can't hurt
[08:31] <metbsd> hmm
[08:31] <x2Fusion> I'm just getting really annoying at the moment :\
[08:31] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: beryl? compiz enabled in xorg?
[08:31] <ilya> YES
[08:31] <x2Fusion> annoyed*
[08:31] <metbsd> anyone here
[08:31] <neverblue> TheCreationist, ok, so im still not clearly understanding what you mean by a white screen
[08:31] <TheCreationist> tyler_d: Shouldn't be... this is a fresh install.
[08:31] <dyrne> metbsd: many many of us :)
[08:31] <neverblue> all your services appear to be loadig
[08:31] <ilya> 1?
[08:31] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: k... try enabling compiz
[08:31] <neverblue> you have the  correct driver
[08:31] <TheCreationist> neverblue: I mean just that.  The ENTIRE screen is white.. pure white.
[08:31] <mezziah> !me
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <mezziah> now this is sad.
[08:32] <TheCreationist> neverblue: No interface whatsoever.
[08:32] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: any even go as far as to try installing the nvidia driver
[08:32] <neverblue> TheCreationist, yet you here sounds
[08:32] <{swift}> can anyone help me troubleshoot some issues i am having with firefox? im using feisty and ff 2.0.0.4 after browsing a few pages it becomes unresponsive. i can minimize/maximize it but nothing appears in the window, just what was behind it.
[08:32] <tyler_d> TheCreationist:  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[08:32] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Right, I know that gnome is functioning in the background, I just can't see it.
[08:32] <TheCreationist> tyler_d: I don't want Compiz enabled yet, though.
[08:33] <joh_n> hi, alright look, ive been trying to get my internet fixed on linux for the past week and its not, can someone please go into a private chat with me and try to help me fix it, im at a point where i might go back into winodws *gasp* , i would greatly appreciate it
[08:33] <neverblue> TheCreationist, tahts why I asked about duals, thought maybe you plugged the monitor into the incorrect output on your videocard
[08:33] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: then I would start with the driver
[08:33] <ilya> GYDBAY
[08:33] <Riyo> What music production software is available?
[08:33] <stefg> {swift}: firefox or *swiftfox* ? your nick looks suspicious :-)
[08:33] <neverblue> TheCreationist, when does the white screen appear in your boot sequence?
[08:33] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Oh, no... and everything else is working fine.
[08:33] <tyler_d> TheCreationist: would you pastebin your config plz
[08:33] <Reews> Hi, I
[08:33] <{swift}> firefox ;)
[08:33] <PIPBoy_> hola :D
[08:33] <ilya> !!!!!!!!!!??????
[08:33] <dyrne> joh_n: youd have better luck in the channel. can you pastebin the output of ifconfig -a   and   route  please?
[08:33] <TheCreationist> neverblue: It appears just after I login.  The gnome splash will come up, showing that gnome is loading.  When that's finished, the white screen.
[08:34] <dyrne> !pastebin | joh_n
[08:34] <ubotu> joh_n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:34] <mezziah> hola PIPBoy_, eres de espaa o de sudamerica?
[08:34] <TheCreationist> tyler_d:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26646/
[08:34] <mcquaid> join #kubuntu
[08:34] <{swift}> stefg firefox ;)
[08:34] <stefg> {swift}: try a new different profile first, to rule out any ectension or skin issues
[08:34] <Reews> Hi, I've experienced huge problems since i upgraded to my Ati x1950 pro grafic card. Can't get the drivers working. I've tried manually and with Envy. Any suggestions or guides avaible? Thnx in advance
[08:35] <{swift}> stefg: im on it :)
[08:35] <PIPBoy_> what it do everyone?
[08:35] <stefg> !envy | Reews
[08:35] <ubotu> Reews: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[08:35] <TheCreationist> Reews: Unfortunately a LOT of people have had to get rid of their ATI cards in favor of nVidia.  ATI is a company that has terrible Linux support.  So you may actually be out of luck...
[08:36] <dyrne> Reews: even if you just use the nv driver and not nvidia. it is a better chipset for linux.
[08:36] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Any other ideas?
[08:36] <joh_n> here you go: www.rafb.net/p/vBSV6g55.html
[08:37] <Reews> Alright, thnx y all. Have a nice day
[08:37] <TheCreationist> Well, I have to get to work anyway.  I appreciate you two trying to help, but I'll just have to ask again later.
[08:37] <neverblue> so you are seeing the login
[08:37] <neverblue> oh
[08:37] <neverblue> gone...
[08:37] <neverblue> :/
[08:38] <Sean> ^:ADCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[08:38] <joh_n> my internet does work, but it stops working, really frustrating
[08:38] <Sean> DUDE
[08:38] <Sean> :@
[08:38] <Sean> NO
[08:38] <Sean> OMG
[08:38] <Sean> NO
[08:38] <stefg> !ops
[08:38] <Sean> Damnit :@
[08:38] <Sean> :@
[08:38] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:38] <gnomefreak> stefg: ?
[08:38] <Sean> Sorry sorry come back in
[08:39] <Sean> My bad gosh :(
[08:39] <stefg> see Sean
[08:39] <dyrne> joh_n: this a problem with wireless or wired? can you pastebin the 'route' output too?
[08:39] <Sean> man :(
[08:39] <bruenig> gnomefreak, Sean with DCC exploit
[08:39] <dyrne> joh_n: nm i assume wireless since that is the ip
[08:40] <joh_n> its wireless, when i do ifconfig route i get: route: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[08:40] <dyrne> joh_n: just route   or netstat -rn
[08:40] <dyrne> joh_n: no ifconfig
[08:40] <PIPBoy_> *slap
[08:41] <PIPBoy_> hi
[08:41] <joh_n> ok, let me paste it
[08:41] <joh_n> www.rafb.net/p/iHHBBZ68.html
[08:42] <saber_> Hi, Can someone help me with the processing of compiling source code.
[08:42] <stefg> !build
[08:42] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:42] <^NighT^WalkeR^> hi there... i just installed mysql on ubuntu... anyone know how i start it?
[08:42] <saber_> Thanks
[08:42] <wolfeon> anyone running feisty with latest updates who can test vino?
[08:42] <wolfeon> On my machines, I'm not able to use shift
[08:42] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: it should be automatically started
[08:42] <wolfeon> perhaps it is a single environment setting, but I'm not sure.
[08:43] <nickrud> ^NighT^WalkeR^, if you used the mysql from ubuntu, it is running
[08:43] <wolfeon> I"ve tried connecting from multiple computers, so it must be something in ubuntu
[08:43] <wolfeon> I've also tried multiple viewers, just to be sure.
[08:44] <wolfeon> funny thing is, if I start vncserver(realvnc), my input from *any* client is really messed up(random layout)
[08:44] <wolfeon> so there must be some setting whch is missing
[08:44] <{swift}> stefg: firefox worked fine on a diffrent proifle, so it must be some extention i installed. should i just remove them all reinstall them one by one to find the culprit?
[08:44] <^NighT^WalkeR^> nickrud, how do run scripts for it then???
[08:45] <^NighT^WalkeR^> i am only used to mysql on windows
[08:45] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: what scripts?
[08:45] <nickrud> ^NighT^WalkeR^, a little clearer question, just what are you trying to do
[08:45] <stefg> {swift}: sounds like a plan
[08:45] <joh_n> dyrne, did you get the link?
[08:45] <wolfeon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/112955
[08:45] <wolfeon> hey, this is my problem, heh
[08:45] <gerro> how do I remove nvidia-settings so I can install nvidia driver that already comes with that package
[08:45] <^NighT^WalkeR^> making a database
[08:45] <PIPBoy_> hey does anyone know about 64 bit ubuntu (or just the architecture  at all? pm me
[08:46] <fuzzy_logic> hi people.. i just installed the nvidia-glx-new driver package.. but when i try to set my 2 screens to be clones of each other in nvidia-settings, it crashes and the terminal gives the following error: Segmentation fault (core dumped).. anyone have an idea why that is happening?
[08:46] <nickrud> ^NighT^WalkeR^, install mysql-admin and mysql-query-browser ,they'll show up in the menu under programming
[08:46] <wolfeon> argh
[08:46] <wolfeon> fixed upstream but not in ubunt? :/
[08:46] <wolfeon> wtf
[08:46] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: mysql -u username -p
[08:46] <daftman> enter the password and you get into the mysql prompt
[08:46] <^NighT^WalkeR^> maybe im missing the query browser
[08:46] <gerro> what files do I edit to forcibly remove an application from being installed through apt-get
[08:47] <daftman> or you could follow nickcrud instructions and use a gui
[08:47] <dyrne> joh_n: yeah. might be a minute or two im at work
[08:47] <Lacrymology> wols: uninstalling all other kernels and reinstalling nvidia worked
[08:47] <joh_n> oh ok, take your time, i just thought you didnt see it
[08:47] <Lacrymology> stupid nvidia
[08:47] <dyrne> joh_n: is it working right now?
[08:48] <^NighT^WalkeR^> i was missing the query browser... thanx...
[08:48] <gerro> my graphics driver keeps whining trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-ssettings', which is also in package nividia-settings and says error error etc error
[08:48] <x2Fusion> how do I make eth0 be known as my wireless usb adapter?
[08:48] <^NighT^WalkeR^> im just used to windows
[08:49] <Rabidpoobear> when I start ubuntu, the loading bar stays at 0% for 2 minutes before the bar starts moving.  is this just computer slowness or should I be suspicious of something?  the loading is faster off LiveCD than off the installed copy.
[08:49] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: yep things are different here
[08:49] <nickrud> ^NighT^WalkeR^, eh, that's why I pointed you at the gui tools; daftman's way (once you get it) is much faster & easier
[08:49] <calc> Rabidpoobear: what kind of hard drives do you have?
[08:49] <x2Fusion> When I do lsusb it shows my usb adapter, so I know it's working like that
[08:49] <dyrne> joh_n: it looks like its missing a gateway
[08:49] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: i take it you never use a cli for mysql
[08:49] <Rabidpoobear> calc: an old IDE 13gb drive
[08:49] <x2Fusion> Im just trying to get it to work
[08:49] <x2Fusion> So I can connect to the net :\
[08:49] <^NighT^WalkeR^> cli?
[08:50] <joh_n> its working now yea, some sites work, some dont, and then it just goes out
[08:50] <daftman> command line interface
[08:50] <calc> Rabidpoobear: i think the first part is probably due to kernel start up part
[08:50] <^NighT^WalkeR^> daftman: cli?
[08:50] <gerro> ^NighT^Walker: an OS just works for you, there is nothing different about either unless you say it is =P
[08:50] <oskude> Rabidpoobear, i got same kindof problems (but only 30sec) try bootchart to see what ist doing so long https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting
[08:50] <x2Fusion> So does anyone know how to make my Wireless USB Adapter be known as eth0 ?
[08:50] <dyrne> joh_n: can you get to sites by ip? the two things you setup normally when connecting manually are route and dns which is the /etc/resolv.conf file
[08:50] <^NighT^WalkeR^> gerro: i just installed ubuntu for the first time 2 days ago
[08:51] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: if you use the cli you can just do mysql [options]  < script.sql
[08:51] <daftman> ah
[08:51] <Rabidpoobear> calc: it just seems like LiveCD boot should be significantly slower, and it's actually faster
[08:51] <daftman> lol then take your time my man
[08:51] <dyrne> joh_n: the atheros chipset is pretty well supported and it looks like you have a similar card to mine
[08:51] <NeXtDaY> hi all
[08:51] <daftman> ubuntu is like a woman, you have to explore
[08:51] <Rabidpoobear> calc: at least for the first part of the boot, when it's just a black Ubuntu screen
[08:51] <calc> Rabidpoobear: oh if the livecd boots faster then something really weird is going on
[08:51] <daftman> and understand her before she lets you touch her in places
[08:51] <cki> yooo HI ALL :D
[08:51] <cki> :)
[08:51] <cki> this is cool :)
[08:52] <cki> I like my ubuntu L:D
[08:52] <cki> :)
[08:52] <^NighT^WalkeR^> how is it with linux... there is no way to write on a ntfs formatted drive?
[08:52] <bruenig> !offtopic | cki
[08:52] <ubotu> cki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:52] <oskude> !ntfs
[08:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:52] <gerro> ^NighT^WalkeR^: I'm more a xubuntu person myself but its all the same except on here you can see exactly what system is doing :)
[08:52] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: there is but I wouldn't recommend it
[08:52] <daftman> are you dual booting?
[08:52] <ziggy23> Does anyone know any suggestions to get the live cd of feisty running on a MacBook Pro?
[08:52] <joh_n> dyrne: i think i can, so my settings are wrong is what your saying?
[08:52] <metbsd> i have no sound, help
[08:52] <x2Fusion> Does anyone know what is wrong or how I can do it?
[08:53] <x2Fusion> How I can make my USB Wireless Adapter known as my eth0
[08:53] <calc> ^NighT^WalkeR^: there are ways but its not 100% reliable, microsoft changes NTFS with every new windows release, its not like FAT32 which has stayed the same since Win95
[08:53] <^NighT^WalkeR^> daftman: yes... but i have an external HDD
[08:53] <user_> hey, guys, im installing a debian on an 32mb ram, 486 (or somthing like that) pentium. and HD size is 171mb, so i need a root and a swap partitions. the question is - "what would u advise as a swap partition size?" :)
[08:53] <x2Fusion> Been asking this all day with no answer yet :\
[08:53] <Rabidpoobear> ziggy23: are you on an Intel MacBook?
[08:54] <daftman> ^NighT^WalkeR^: well since you are new to ubuntu, I sugges tyou have some fun first and don't touch the ntfs
[08:54] <Reews> are there any good poker clients for linux or do you have to use wine or something?
[08:54] <^NighT^WalkeR^> daftman: well im "still" running win xp
[08:54] <daftman> that's way if you something goes wrong you can still boot back into windows
[08:54] <ziggy23> have one nearby
[08:54] <andrewkk> any idea why mount is giving me "invalid option -- v"? man mount lists it as an valid switch.
[08:54] <NeXtDaY> !sound | metbsd
[08:54] <ubotu> metbsd: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:54] <^NighT^WalkeR^> daftman: its not a big deal... i can still read the HDD
[08:54] <calc> ^NighT^WalkeR^: the best way to have cross platform disk support is to use FAT32, everything can read/write that (not just linux)
[08:54] <monkey89> does anyone have wma files working in banshee?  they play in totem/rhythmbox just fine, but i cant import them into my banshee library
[08:54] <calc> ^NighT^WalkeR^: MacOS can't write to ntfs either from what i recall
[08:54] <daftman> calc: ugh fat32
[08:54] <user_> so, nobody have any ideas? :(
[08:55] <x2Fusion> So anyone...?
[08:55] <daftman> calc: that pos
[08:55] <Rabidpoobear> ziggy23: you need to use the version of the livecd for your architecture. If you have a PowerPC mac, use the PowerPC version of the livecd, otherwise use the i386 version
[08:55] <lashmoove> use songbird instead
[08:55] <xbrazzyx> uk
[08:55] <pha|con> user_: try a swap of 64mb
[08:55] <mc44> !ntfs-3g | ^NighT^WalkeR^
[08:55] <ubotu> ^NighT^WalkeR^: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:55] <oskude> andrewkk, maybe its "-V" (capital V)
[08:55] <Rabidpoobear> user_: buy a bigger hard drive? :)
[08:55] <matt__> anyone have a clue when the newest amarok will be in the feisty repos?
[08:55] <x2Fusion> ...
[08:55] <calc> daftman: i actually like FAT32 more than NTFS, while running WinXP it has corrupted beyond repair or mountable NTFS multiple times
[08:55] <^NighT^WalkeR^> welll one other question...
[08:55] <user_> pha|con: ty man, ill try it i guess :)
[08:55] <Aggort_> Ziggy23: If you really don't know the architecture then I'd suggest just using i386
[08:55] <daftman> mc44: dude he just installed ubuntu 2 days ago, giving him that big arsenal will kill his xp
[08:55] <andrewkk> oskude: that's for Version. i want verbose.
[08:55] <calc> daftman: so I don't use NTFS for anything important even on windows only boxes
[08:56] <monkey89> songbird doesn't seem to support mtp, and id like to stick to gtk
[08:56] <james> hey, i'm a Linux noob. where is the best place to find more software for Linux?
[08:56] <lashmoove> new technology file system
[08:56] <pha|con> user_: generally you want about 2x the amount of RAM you have as a swap space
[08:56] <mc44> daftman: er... it just gives you write access to ntfs, why would that kill anything?
[08:56] <oskude> andrewkk, ah ok, mount -v works here (means no error)
[08:56] <saber_> Can somebody help with a problem i have compiling some source code. I run the ./configure file but get these errors  install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[08:56] <lashmoove> www.getdeb.net
[08:56] <cki> James Try google dude :)
[08:56] <lashmoove> or the repository
[08:56] <daftman> calc: but fat32 can't support files that larger than 4GB
[08:56] <x2Fusion> Anyone... :\
[08:56] <erUSUL> !apt | james
[08:56] <ubotu> james: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:56] <ziggy23> no it is a intel coreduo
[08:56] <calc> daftman: true, that part really sucks
[08:56] <pha|con> user_: i don't know if that's true for today's systems, tho.
[08:56] <cki> ye and apt can help you :D
[08:56] <^NighT^WalkeR^> where can i find canon pixma mp150 driver for linux (prefferebly (spell) a script with it)
[08:56] <daftman> calc: I have vmware image larger than tat
[08:56] <CanuckGeezer> Problem with my USB camera... it won't let me unmount it ("device is busy").  lsof and fuser both report no activity on the mount, only one console window is open in the root directory.
[08:56] <user_> Rabidpoobear: nono, this is the reason i got that low hardware, to tinker with it, have other better system aroun he :)
[08:57] <Rabidpoobear> james: use apt
[08:57] <calc> daftman: the only stuff i tend to use that is only 4GB is dvd isos and i burn them as soon as i download them
[08:57] <qaws> hi, how can I repair this? Unable to found all sources of available programs: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 
[08:57] <Aggort_> james: APT is all you need, but for some specifically good software use Automatix 2
[08:57] <calc> daftman: vmware works with smaller files
[08:57] <stefg> !printer | ^NighT^WalkeR^
[08:57] <ubotu> ^NighT^WalkeR^: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:57] <Rabidpoobear> ziggy: is it 64-bit?
[08:57] <calc> daftman: just check the option to break up the disk image
[08:57] <james> another question, how do I install programs using wine?
[08:57] <x2Fusion> James came in just now and he gets help right away? - I come in like hours ago an still yet to get help!
[08:57] <took> dont use automatix!
[08:57] <matt__> james: don't use automatix, it sucks and breaks everything.
[08:57] <matt__> james: just don't use it
[08:57] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Don;t Whine
[08:57] <daftman> calc: ah I see, learnt something new every day
[08:57] <Aggort_> What do you need?
[08:57] <saber_> Hi, Who can help me solve a ./configure error cheers.
[08:57] <mc44> !patience | x2Fusion
[08:57] <ubotu> x2Fusion: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:57] <WaxyFresh> how can i i tell if openGL will work on my computer before i install it?
[08:58] <thug> Geforce 7600 GT 256 MB PCIE works on ubuntu ?
[08:58] <user_> pha|con: aham, yes i know about 2x size of ram, just curious, i have 32mb ram, so if i take 64mb swap, what stays ah root? 100+/- mb... okay i guess its gonna be it :)
[08:58] <qaws> hi, how can I repair this? Unable to found all sources of available programs: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] 
[08:58] <Rabidpoobear> x2Fusion: what's your problem?
[08:58] <x2Fusion> I've come in here at this time '[15:48]  * Now talking in #ubuntu'
[08:58] <x2Fusion> I've been asking for hrs
[08:58] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: What do you need help with?
[08:58] <neverblue> thug I have it working
[08:58] <user_> as*
[08:58] <pha|con> user_:  what distro are you installing?
[08:58] <ccesario> hi !
[08:58] <oskude> saber_, and youre sure theres no ubuntu package already for that program ?
[08:58] <mc44> x2Fusion: if no one knows, no one knows
[08:58] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Quit Whining and explain
[08:58] <ber1> i just bought an external hard drive by simple tech. it connects via usb. how do i... errr... get it working? any ideas? anyone ever done that before?
[08:58] <froyd> Do you guys know why my use terminal client services my window is semi transparent ???
[08:58] <daftman> x2Fusion, dude If you pay me then I'll answer you within minutes
[08:58] <calc> daftman: its an option when you create the vm image on the page that you select how big a disk image you want it asks if you want it split up
[08:58] <user_> pha|con: the one and only debian eh :D
[08:58] <x2Fusion> I've been asking how can I make my WirelessG USB (Belkin) Adapter work correctly I've used many methods an yet stil not working.
[08:58] <trpr> yes. i accept paypal :p
[08:58] <pha|con> user_: the only thing i can think of that's small enough for a drive that size is DSL
[08:58] <mc44> !medibuntu | qaws
[08:58] <x2Fusion> I've used ndiswrapper and many others.
[08:59] <thug> neverblue any problems playing some games in windows ? how good is it ?
[08:59] <ubotu> qaws: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:59] <mylogic> TorrentFlux is a gift from the heavens.
[08:59] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: I use belkin
[08:59] <neverblue> thug this isnt a windows channel
[08:59] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Maybe I can help out
[08:59] <ziggy23> the gui does not show up
[08:59] <pha|con> user_: does debian take up less than 100 MB?
[08:59] <Rabidpoobear> x2Fusion: have you tried google?
[08:59] <x2Fusion> Yes.
[08:59] <x2Fusion> Why you think I'm here ;)
[08:59] <mylogic> pha|con: not usually
[08:59] <strato88> hi guys
[08:59] <stefg> ber1: you probably need to make a partition on it and format that with a filesystem of yout choice
[08:59] <james> x2Fusion, doesn't Linux automatically recognize your hardware?
[08:59] <x2Fusion> no,
[08:59] <froyd> can anybody help me im having problems with my terminal services window, its almost transparent
[08:59] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Did you try tech support through belkin? They are amazing easy and helpful.
[09:00] <pha|con> mylogic: i didn't think so...i know damn small linux is a little over 50 nowaday, right?
[09:00] <x2Fusion> Well it does show it in lsusb but it's not connecting or anything
[09:00] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Have you tried it with any other OS?
[09:00] <mylogic> pha|con: yup
[09:00] <thug> neverblue i know its not ... i was talking about getting that card working :)
[09:00] <mc44> x2Fusion: what chipset is it?
[09:00] <x2Fusion> Yes, it works on XP
[09:00] <james> It recognized all my hardware
[09:00] <strato88> I abled 3D acceleration on my ati ... it worked but I installed beryl and it doenst work ... who can help me pls?
[09:00] <pha|con> user_: i don't think you'll be fitting debian on that drive
[09:00] <x2Fusion> Erm, 1sec let me see
[09:00] <saber_> What does this configure error mean? configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[09:00] <qaws> thx
[09:00] <user_> pha|con: euhm, my first idea was DSL indeed, but, i just wanted to try debian, cuz im about to put fluxbox on it, and that exactly the dsl, but i dont wanted to have DSL's configs alredy installed :)
[09:00] <calc> pha|con: i doubt you could get debian into under 100MB uncompressed period
[09:00] <calc> pha|con: without heavy modification anyway
[09:00] <neverblue> thug, i missed the question about 'getting it working'
[09:01] <x2Fusion> Geh, where do I find the chipset?
[09:01] <ccesario> I have installed ubuntu feisty, and I copy any "po and mo" files (pt_BR) from other machine(centoOS) to this machine, and I copy to web aplication directory, and restated the apache, then I don't see special characters (,    ...)
[09:01] <x2Fusion> I forgot lol
[09:01] <daftman> saber_: what are you trying to do
[09:01] <joh_n> dryne, how have you set up yours?
[09:01] <ccesario> somebody have any idea ?
[09:01] <calc> pha|con: damn small may still be under 50MB not sure, that is the magic bizcard cd size ;)
[09:01] <mc44> x2Fusion: well, what does lsusb say
[09:01] <oskude> saber_, it means what it says, it cant find that file...
[09:01] <user_> pha|con: i hope, the minimum install will be okay ;) if no, dsl iz w8in' 4 me :D
[09:01] <x2Fusion> Ah
[09:01] <x2Fusion> Okay, 1sec
[09:01] <mylogic> calc: it's literally right at 50mb
[09:01] <cebulon> pkg-config !
[09:01] <pha|con> user_: i think even the minimum install is too big for that drive
[09:02] <thug> neverblue well before i buy something i will like to find out some more things about it .. will it work with that ,... will it not ... bla bla blahhh
[09:02] <oskude> strato88, deactivate beryl and 3d games/programs work again... (AFAIK)
[09:02] <x2Fusion> It says (Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:705c Belkin Components)
[09:02] <user_> pha|con: hmmz ;)
[09:02] <pha|con> user_: even if it does fit there it'll be ALL cli
[09:02] <calc> mylogic: oh ok
[09:02] <neverblue> thug I beleive I answered your question
[09:02] <dyrne> joh_n: it 'just works' but i havent used the gui tool to connect i do "sudo ifconfig ath0 up; iwlist ath0 scan; iwconfig ath0 essid networkname; dhclient ath0"
[09:02] <neverblue> i have it working on my system
[09:02] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Your not receiving any sort of connection at all?
[09:02] <frojnd> how can I set myself to NOT away in konversation?
[09:02] <x2Fusion> No, :\
[09:02] <dyrne> joh_n: er thats sudo dhclient ath0
[09:02] <mylogic> user_: You could always go with linux from scratch, and build like a raw debian hybrid
[09:02] <james> x2Fusion: have you tried having your adapter plugged into your machine before starting it up?
[09:02] <PIPBoy_> hey does anyone know about 64 bit ubuntu (or just the architecture  at all? pm me
[09:03] <x2Fusion> Yes, I have
[09:03] <saber_> Im trying to compile a program i downloaded called anyremote. I have un tar'ed the file, and im in the directory using the terminal. The instructions are to type ./configure and then after that make. But i get an error with the first part :(
[09:03] <ber1> what is the command to copy a folder into a different directory? sudo cp /path/to/first/folder path/to/second/folder ?
[09:03] <calc> PIPBoy_: know what about it?
[09:03] <mc44> x2Fusion: what was the problem with ndiswrapper?
[09:03] <user_> mylogic: hmm, nice idea, ty, gotta check some info on it:)
[09:03] <thug> neverblue so are you happy with it or not ? ever tried to play game and you couldnt because of the card ?
[09:03] <pha|con> mylogic: haha :) i built an LSF system many moons ago.  it's not worth the trouble at all
[09:03] <trpr> ber1: add a -r to recursively copy subfolders
[09:03] <x2Fusion> I got it to work and all, when I do ndiswrapper -l I see it just fine...
[09:03] <trpr> ber1: sudo cp -r original copy
[09:03] <x2Fusion> It's just connecting to the net.
[09:03] <user_> pha|con: okay, afk trying 64mb
[09:03] <cki> Hey Guys ive got a stupid Question .... How to make my Ati Accseleration work  ? is it a driver becouse then i installed my World of warcraft with wine and when i make a config in /WTF/config when i start the game it says 3d Accseleration cannot be started .. im userin ATI X550 ..
[09:03] <mylogic> pha|con: well, depends what's riding on him getting debian on that system ;p
[09:04] <mc44> x2Fusion: well, helps if you tell us that... :)
[09:04] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Just Web Broswers? or everything in general?
[09:04] <Panzer_> can you not change the wallpaper on each desktop?
[09:04] <x2Fusion> lol,
[09:04] <mylogic> Panzer_: yes
[09:04] <Panzer_> how
[09:04] <pha|con> mylogic: i think he said he just wanted to play around with it.
[09:04] <ber1> trpr: and that will simply copy, not move (mv) right?
[09:04] <calc> a stripped ubuntu gutsy with build-essential (without kernel) takes ~ 205MB
[09:04] <mc44> x2Fusion: ndiswrapper -l say driver installed and device present?
[09:04] <x2Fusion> Well I followed the wiki and all seemed to work correct but it just don't connect to my router
[09:04] <mylogic> Panzer_: what are you using, gnome? beryl? kde?
[09:04] <x2Fusion> Yes it does.
[09:04] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: I had a similar problem with Firefox until I disabled IPv6
[09:04] <Panzer_> gnome
[09:04] <trpr> ber1: cp will just copy. use mv if you want to rename or move
[09:04] <ber1> thank you trpr
[09:05] <mc44> x2Fusion: what does "iwconfig" say?
[09:05] <kravlin> I'm running from a live cd. Anyone know how to repartition a Ubuntu disk from here safely?
[09:05] <x2Fusion> blkwgu    driver present, hardware present
[09:05] <qaz10> qaz10,
[09:05] <x2Fusion> iwconfig
[09:05] <x2Fusion> erm
[09:05] <oskude> saber_, have you tried this http://tim.id.au/blog/?p=9 (first hit in google)
[09:05] <kazim59> kravlin: GNOME Paritition Editor
[09:05] <daftman> x2Fusion could it be because of the router?
[09:05] <pha|con> kravlin: cfdisk /dev/hd*
[09:05] <james> cki: i have WoW on my machine but I can't access the config file.... help
[09:05] <mylogic> Panzer_: you should install beryl, it makes it wayyy easier ;p
[09:05] <joh_n> dyrne, do i need to restart or anything after i do does commands?
[09:05] <cki> well write to me ..
[09:05] <cki> :D
[09:05] <Panzer_> I understand
[09:05] <x2Fusion> lo no wireless extensions | eth0 no wireless extensions an wlan0 gives me stuff
[09:05] <Panzer_> but I don't have it
[09:05] <fatihagca> help
[09:05] <pha|con> kravlin: or what kazim59 says ;)
[09:06] <kravlin> kasim59: What's the command for that?
[09:06] <Panzer_> and I don't have the video card to supports
[09:06] <x2Fusion> Like what I would get for eth0 when I use my lan
[09:06] <mylogic> gotcha, one second let me disable beryl and see if I can figure out how
[09:06] <mc44> x2Fusion: is it connected to your router?
[09:06] <TheInfinity> has somebody a patched pam-foreground for 64bit?
[09:06] <saber_> Yep, but it doesnt help with the ./configure thing
[09:06] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Does anything else still connect to the Wireless connection when you are running Ubuntu? Or is Ubuntu the only thing not connecting to the net?
[09:06] <x2Fusion> not on the ethernet at the mo
[09:06] <Taime1> can i use fluxbox in windoze? :P
[09:06] <TheInfinity> or can somebody compile it for me?
[09:06] <x2Fusion> Nor is the wireless.
[09:06] <kazim59> kravlin: you will find partition editor in the menus.... ( check system menu in particular)
[09:07] <mc44> x2Fusion: do you have encryption on your router?
[09:07] <kazim59> kravlin: otherwise sudo gparted
[09:07] <x2Fusion> No, I took that off to try and connect.
[09:07] <Ethan> hi,
[09:07] <Ethan> I have installed Ubuntu since more than two years and I would like to install windows too (yes :$ ),
[09:07] <Ethan> Is there now a way to change the partition size ? :$
[09:07] <Aggort_> mc44: I was about to ask that , ;)
[09:07] <aMMuNi1> will a DVD written from linux be readable in windows?
[09:07] <Aggort_> Ethan: Without losing file.... more than likely no
[09:07] <daftman> x2Fusion: can you go to your router and try to list the computers that it's currently connected to?
[09:07] <mc44> x2Fusion: if you go into system->admin->network
[09:07] <calc> aMMuNi1: generally yes
[09:07] <mc44> x2Fusion: can you see your router listed?
[09:07] <aMMuNi1> calc, generally?
[09:08] <calc> aMMuNi1: you could write it some format that windows doesnt support though
[09:08] <Ethan> I know how to format and then install all, but that is a long process....
[09:08] <oskude> aMMuNi1, yes if you burned it as iso...something
[09:08] <calc> aMMuNi1: as long as you write it in ISO9660 or UDF it will work
[09:08] <Aggort_> aMMuni1: All the DVD's I have burnt worked
[09:08] <CanuckGeezer> ethan: if you have sufficient blank space on your HDD most partition editors can do it... but you should back up all your essential files (preferably to a mirror HDD) before you try it!
[09:08] <kazim59> Ethan: you can try resizing partitions but know that it is risky
[09:08] <x2Fusion> No, lists the dialup card ethernet and my wireless
[09:08] <aMMuNi1> Aggort_, using what program? (same goes to calc)
[09:08] <kravlin> kazim59: and if i drop space off of my / partition linux should still be fine? I have a 250 Gb Hard drive that i want to drop some space from linux to install windows for gaming.
[09:08] <x2Fusion> So it is getting the card
[09:08] <x2Fusion> USB*
[09:08] <cki> Kravlin
[09:08] <cki> u can play some games on linux :)
[09:09] <daftman> x2Fusion: ah so it can see the card
[09:09] <calc> aMMuNi1: the ones i have done in the past was with cdrecord (iirc) was several years ago
[09:09] <kazim59> kazim59: do it if you have backed up ur data
[09:09] <cki> with Wine or Cedega and some drivers..
[09:09] <x2Fusion> Yea,
[09:09] <x2Fusion> It just won't connect at all to my router :\
[09:09] <daftman> x2Fusion: ping it
[09:09] <aMMuNi1> k thanks calc
[09:09] <x2Fusion> Okay,
[09:09] <kravlin> kazim59: I have not. is there a way to do it from the live cd?
[09:09] <ber1> i just installed an external harddrive (usb) located at /media/SimpleDrive and i want to copy my music folder (/home/bert/Desktop/music) into it, but of course it is protected. i tried   - sudo cp -r /media/SimpleDrive /home/bert/Desktop/music  but that gave me the error "cp: cannot create directory `/media/SimpleDrive/music': Read-only file system
[09:09] <ber1> " --- what should i do?
[09:09] <Aggort_> aMMuni1: I use gnomebaker for DVD's since it's easy and user friendly
[09:09] <calc> aMMuNi1: there are gui programs that do a good job as well
[09:09] <aMMuNi1> calc, as long as I'm asked for a format type and I choose ISO something I'll be alright?
[09:09] <mc44> x2Fusion: click on wirelss the propertes
[09:09] <mc44> *then
[09:09] <aMMuNi1> thanks Aggort_
[09:09] <x2Fusion> Network is unreachable, an okay.
[09:10] <kazim59> kravlin: you can perform all partitioning activities from live cd
[09:10] <calc> aMMuNi1: cdrecord is a command line program it doesn't ask anything you have to tell it what to do...
[09:10] <kane77> ber1, is it ntfs?
[09:10] <x2Fusion> I've set my gateway an that
[09:10] <calc> aMMuNi1: but for the gui ones they probably ask you stuff
[09:10] <aMMuNi1> calc, does ubuntu come with a gui one?
[09:10] <calc> aMMuNi1: yes see Aggort_
[09:10] <x2Fusion> An yeah, different to my other machine
[09:10] <ber1> kane77: i have no idea. i hardly know what i'm doing.
[09:10] <lashmoove> oh
[09:10] <james> I can't figure out gnomebaker, and get errors reading the discs
[09:10] <aMMuNi1> calc, right, thanks guys (Aggort_ and calc)
[09:10] <Aggort_> aMMuNi1: No prob.. just as they said be sure to burn in a Windows readable format. I;ve burnt copies of Family DVD's and sent them to windows user family members and they have no trouble.
[09:10] <RickSeymour> has anyone installed the IM client - Banter?
[09:10] <kravlin> kazim59: So how would i go about backing everything up? Would that be through a gui or do i have to save all the files by hand?
[09:11] <mc44> x2Fusion: eh? in the properties box on the ESSID drop down can you see your router?
[09:11] <Ethan> CanuckGeezer: And you could give a name of such application ? ( HDD : about 90GiB with more than 60 GiB free )
[09:11] <x2Fusion> Oh, no
[09:11] <lashmoove> there is a backup app
[09:11] <kazim59> kazim59: either way
[09:11] <lashmoove> check add/remove search for backup
[09:11] <Aggort_> aMMuni1: Yea Gnome Baker isn't the most intuitive but it will do what you need, easy
[09:11] <mc44> x2Fusion: does it list anything?
[09:11] <cki> In add/remove there was a program for BAckupp 100% ;)
[09:11] <PIPBoy_> hey does anyone know about 64 bit ubuntu (or just the architecture  at all? pm me
[09:11] <x2Fusion> No it's blank
[09:12] <joh_n> dyrne, im comparing speeds on linux and windows, 2 diff computers, and linux is so slow and it never loads, i dont know what to do
[09:12] <daftman> x2Fusion: that's weird man
[09:12] <RickSeymour> which package contains --- jscall-sharp?
[09:12] <greg_g> backup for me means a cron script with some rsync's in it
[09:12] <sinnlos> tach wie kann ich herausfinden ob mein mikro noch geht ?
[09:12] <x2Fusion> Yeah I know :\
[09:12] <Ethan> joh_n: check graphic card installation on linux
[09:12] <m1r> x2fuaion what card u using?
[09:12] <oskude> !de
[09:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:12] <m1r> x2fusion
[09:12] <x2Fusion> Yeah?
[09:12] <WaxyFresh> i just got a message that said "could not grab your mouse...a malicus client could be blah blah blah"should i be worry ed?
[09:12] <x2Fusion> Og.
[09:12] <x2Fusion> o.
[09:12] <joh_n> what does graphic card have to do with internet?
[09:12] <x2Fusion> I already said,
[09:12] <m1r> what card u using
[09:12] <Aggort_> joh_n: Similar PC's. cus seriously, only start up time is slower on my PC and I dual boot. I run games through Wine on Linux faster than on Windows
[09:12] <kazim59> ber1: what exactly do you want?
[09:12] <lashmoove> turn your computer off
[09:12] <x2Fusion> It's a Belkin WirelessG Adapter
[09:13] <m1r> kk
[09:13] <x2Fusion> USB*
[09:13] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Is it USB?
[09:13] <joh_n> im talking about wireless guys
[09:13] <kane77> ber1, try sudo fdisk -l
[09:13] <daftman> usb?
[09:13] <daftman> omg
[09:13] <x2Fusion> Yes lol
[09:13] <x2Fusion> :\
[09:13] <x2Fusion> I've been saying that lol
[09:13] <Aggort_> joh_n: Receiving or sending out?
[09:13] <cki> hey  who can help me with my World of warcraft?
[09:13] <cki> please..
[09:13] <cki> :D
[09:13] <daftman> return that pos and buy a new one
[09:13] <Ethan> joh_n: didn't you were talking about internet... :$
[09:13] <Aggort_> joh_n: nevermind I gifured it out
[09:13] <x2Fusion> lmao I've had it ages now.
[09:13] <Aggort_> joh_n: Do you mean web surfing?
[09:13] <joh_n> yea
[09:13] <kazim59> kravlin: what do you want to do, exactly?
[09:13] <mc44> x2Fusion: try "iwlist scan" in a terminal
[09:13] <x2Fusion> I use to use it on my other machine
[09:14] <daftman> time to upgrade then
[09:14] <Aggort_> x2Fusion: Sorry I missed that much <Bonehead
[09:14] <joh_n> it works for a while, and then goes out
[09:14] <x2Fusion> lol, :\
[09:14] <kravlin> kasim59: well. when i try to mount the volume it gives me an error with these details error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[09:14] <kravlin> error: could not execute pmount
[09:14] <x2Fusion> brb
[09:14] <joh_n> when i say a while i mean 30 seconds
[09:14] <Aggort_> joh_n: This is redundant but try disabling IPv6
[09:14] <joh_n> how?
[09:15] <kravlin> cki: I take it thats a problem with wine. Try #wineHq
[09:15] <kane77> ber1, or mount -l
[09:15] <WaxyFresh> i just got a message that said "could not grab your mouse...a malicus client could be blah blah blah"should i be worry ed? or did the computer just mess up?is there a log file i could check or anything?
[09:15] <Aggort_> joh_n: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D87798&ei=TM56RuCQJZmmoATzrdm0Bg&usg=AFQjCNG7iR55rjruLrYT542nNd5Di4N8VA&sig2=0hbf10p8XR4Xx_lySp7tFw
[09:15] <daftman> WaxyFresh: google it
[09:15] <Aggort_> SORRY
[09:15] <Aggort_> lol
[09:16] <kane77> damn that's adress! :) I'll remember it :)
[09:16] <oskude> i got an old HP E-PC 40 and installed feisty (for my mom). but theres a 30sec long show stopper -> http://osku.de/feisty-20070621-1.png. it seems that its caused by the CD-ROM drive. when i remove the CD-ROM drive, the 30sec "delay" is gone. what could i test ?
[09:16] <kravlin> kazim59: well. when i try to mount the volume it gives me an error with these details error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[09:16] <kazim59> oh good.... it was difficult to make my Microsoft Mouse work on Ubuntu!! I congratulate myself
[09:16] <cki> 10x kravlin ;)
[09:17] <Scorn> hello
[09:17] <Taime1> is it really worth disabling ipv6? i just read that the other day...
[09:17] <kane77> oskude, how did you do it??
[09:17] <edward_> hey guys Im trying to get sound working on my comp, its got onboard sound and an sblive sound card...when I choose sblive in the sound preferences and sound control I am still getting no sound
[09:17] <cpcarey> umph
[09:17] <oskude> kane77, do what ? bootchart ?
[09:17] <kane77> oskude, yep
[09:17] <kravlin> edward_: Try disabling the sound card onboard with your bios.
[09:17] <ber1> kane77: is there any way i can just make simpledrive not protected so that i can copy files into it without being root?
[09:17] <edward_> kravlin, no probs brb
[09:17] <oskude> kane77, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting very nice tool :)
[09:17] <Aggort_> Taime1: It made my connection MUCH faster and really you don;t miss anything by disabling it
[09:18] <] [aber> Hi, can i launch mmc (Microsoft Managment Console) in ubuntu?
[09:18] <kazim59> kravlin: sorry i m clueless
[09:18] <kane77> ber1, is it ntfs or fat?
[09:18] <bruenig> ] [aber, what is that
[09:18] <kane77> oskude, thx
[09:18] <kravlin> kazim59: no problem.Ill ask again without the name.
[09:18] <andrewkk> should it be possible to mount something twice at once?
[09:18] <Taime1> Aggort: i know its somewhat unrelated, but does ipv6 run on all distros?
[09:18] <bruenig> Taime1, of course not
[09:19] <Taime1> i didnt know
[09:19] <Taime1> i dont even know what purpose it serves
[09:19] <] [aber> bruenig, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Management_Console
[09:19] <kravlin> When i try to mount my hard drive on the live cd it gives me these errors. anyone got an idea why? errors:error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[09:19] <kravlin> error: could not execute pmount
[09:19] <bruenig> Taime1, ubuntu enables absolutely everything because it caters to those who don't know what they are doing and so it figures best to have it there and have it not needed than expect them to enable it themselves
[09:19] <NeXtDaY> hot to restore files from trash to the old location? there is no *restore file* like in windows...
[09:20] <ber1> kane77: sorry, ntfs
[09:20] <daftman> oskude: i don't understand your question
[09:20] <NeXtDaY> how* errr
[09:20] <amonkey> how can i get kiba to not group things
[09:20] <daftman> oskude: didn't you already identify the problem?
[09:20] <Codyman> i am trying to install ubuntu on an older machine... unfortunately the onboard usb is dead (so I have a pci card with usb), but when I go to install ubuntu, after loading the live cd, at one part it stops and is constantly flooded with thousands of USB errors that scan by extremely fast.. is there a way I can force install ubuntu to bypass this?
[09:20] <bruenig> ] [aber, right but what does it do
[09:20] <kane77> !ntfs | ber1
[09:20] <ubotu> ber1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:20] <joh_n> Aggort, is there supposed to be stuff written in the file already?
[09:20] <kane77> !ntfs-3g | ber1
[09:20] <ubotu> ber1: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:20] <bruenig> ] [aber, that you couldn't do with linux I mean
[09:21] <kravlin> When i try to mount my hard drive on the live cd it gives me these errors. anyone got an idea why? errors:error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[09:21] <oskude> daftman, it has to do something with the CD-ROM driver, if i remove it, i dont have that 30sec long "doing nothing" on the bootchart
[09:21] <kravlin> error: could not execute pmount
[09:21] <PIPBoy_> im out everyone, byes :D
[09:21] <oskude> daftman, *CDROM drive
[09:21] <matt__> when is pidgin/gaim 2.0 going to be in the feisty repos?
[09:21] <daftman> oskude: yep did you try using another cdrom drive?
[09:21] <greg_g> NeXtDaY, I don't know, but I would like that feature also
[09:21] <SweetDemoness> which is better swift fox or fire fox and what is the differance?
[09:22] <greg_g> NeXtDaY, Just makes things easier
[09:22] <oskude> daftman, dont have another one :) (its on bloody notebook cdrom driver)
[09:22] <oskude> *an
[09:22] <matt__> SweetDemoness: swiftfox is supposed to be built for your processor, it seems a little faster, check it out.
[09:22] <marltu> how can I create alias that executes 2 or more commands (it's | seperator in IRC)
[09:22] <kazim59> kravlin: possibly /dev/sda1 is ntfs?
[09:22] <marltu> in xchat
[09:22] <NeXtDaY> greg_g yep..
[09:22] <george1> anyone know how to make a network interface work with duplicated mac addresses?
[09:22] <kravlin> error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[09:22] <kravlin> error: could not execute pmount
[09:22] <kravlin> I get these errors. any idea why? (Currently running off a live cd.)
[09:22] <] [aber> bruenig, i want connect to remote console (mmc)
[09:22] <SweetDemoness> matt__ i have and i can't tell
[09:22] <daftman> oskude: so what do you want to do?
[09:23] <andrewkk> does anyone know if it's possible to mount the same device to the same mountpoint multiple times without first unmounting?
[09:23] <matt__> SweetDemoness: i use firefox, just seems simpler
[09:23] <ber1> kane77: thanks!
[09:23] <daftman> oskude: you can prevent the cdrom from loading by removing it in fstab
[09:23] <oskude> daftman, place to start investigate..
[09:23] <SweetDemoness> k then ty
[09:23] <kazim59> kravlin: is the filesystem on your windows partition (sda1) is ntfs or fat?
[09:23] <kravlin> forget this. Ill just go into my install and backup from there.
[09:23] <oskude> daftman, ill look what that does, thanks
[09:24] <kravlin> kazim59: Its not my windows partition. I want to make one but i have to loose some space from my ubuntu partition first.
[09:24] <daftman> kravlin: what ar eyou trying to do?
[09:24] <cpcarey> pop
[09:25] <george1> ugh maybe i didn't format my question well enough?
[09:25] <rockprincess> hello! i was wondering is there a way to fix the MBR on a ubuntu dual-boot system (having two different ubuntu's on my hdd).....
[09:25] <illriginal> Does anyone know good tutorials for gimp using images of humans?
[09:25] <Scorn> OK, here is my dumb question... Can you not install windows XP as a secondary OS after you have Ubuntu already installed?
[09:25] <kazim59> kravlin: oh
[09:25] <Music_Shuffle> Scorn, go the other way.
[09:25] <cpcarey> dual-booting is not fun
[09:25] <Scorn> you must have Windows first?
[09:25] <kravlin> daftman: Im trying to make a windows partition but currently ubuntu takes up my entire hard drive. I need to drop some space from it to make a partition for windows and a partition both can acess.
[09:25] <Music_Shuffle> Scorn, Windows first, then install Ubuntu = less hassle. Check the !dualboot factoid if you want more.
[09:25] <NeXtDaY> how to restore files from trash to the old location? there is no *restore file* like in windows... any help please. sorry for repeating
[09:26] <Scorn> !dualboot
[09:26] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:26] <Music_Shuffle> NeXtDaY, drag and drop?
[09:26] <kravlin> cpcarey: I've been doing it backwards for a week not. Resetting grub isn't that difficult.
[09:26] <Scorn> thanks
[09:26] <cpcarey> :p
[09:26] <Music_Shuffle> Anytime
[09:26] <kravlin> now*
[09:26] <daftman> kravlin: hmm so are you using gpart?
[09:26] <bobsomebody> question: how do i get more workspaces on ubuntu?
[09:26] <Scorn> I appreciate it!
[09:26] <PIPBoy_> msg matt__ why not? pidgin is a great lite multi protocol iming program
[09:26] <bobsomebody> i saw it, but i cant find it again
[09:26] <cpcarey> me too!
[09:26] <NeXtDaY> Music_Shuffle yeah. I know that. but what about the restore file thingie?
[09:26] <rockprincess> any idea on how to reset the MBR or fix it? i've tried with google, but i'm not sure if a re-install of grub will do the trick...
[09:26] <gerro> is this error alright? I'm trying to install k7 kernel and nvidia-glx-new and it outputs: "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/liban1.so.1 is not a symbolic link"
[09:27] <imbecile> how do i create exceptions in firewall rules for azureus?
[09:27] <kravlin> daftman: yeah. I don't know if its safe just to remove space from linux though. I know it wasn't for windows.
[09:27] <erUSUL> rockprincess: it will
[09:27] <erUSUL> !grub | rockprincess
[09:27] <ubotu> rockprincess: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:27] <bobsomebody> does anyone know where I can add more workspaces?
[09:27] <daftman> rockprincess: what happen to your mbr?
[09:27] <bobsomebody> come on this one should b an easy one :P
[09:27] <erUSUL> rockprincess: use the steps used to recover grub after installing windows
[09:27] <rockprincess> is there maybe a guide how to do it? I don
[09:27] <Music_Shuffle> NeXtDaY, I know Konqueror lets you restore the trash, apparently the Gnome trash...doesnt?
[09:27] <bobsomebody> or at least common
[09:27] <kravlin> she probably installed windows before and wiped it out or something.
[09:27] <rockprincess> I don't wanna loose all my data
[09:27] <Music_Shuffle> bobsomebody, on Gnome or KDE?
[09:27] <kazim59> rockprincess: on windows command prompt... fdisk /mbr
[09:27] <bobsomebody> GDM
[09:28] <bobsomebody> *gnome
[09:28] <kazim59> rockprincess: or reinstall grub
[09:28] <rockprincess> kazim59: i don't have a windows partition....
[09:28] <Taime1> is it possible to get plugin support for konqueror in gnome? if so, how?
[09:28] <m1r> bob, right mouse click on it and add as much u want
[09:28] <rockprincess> kazim59: ahh ok, so a re-install of grub will fix my MBR?
[09:28] <kazim59> rockprincess: it should
[09:28] <Music_Shuffle> bobsomebody, right click on the workspace applet in the lower-right corner
[09:28] <NeXtDaY> Music_Shuffle there is no restore option in gnome trash. I am using gnome desktop here.
[09:29] <rockprincess> kazim59: because right now I get the error message Grub Error 21  when booting my machine
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> !mp3
[09:29] <kravlin> rockprincess: I know that there is a guide on www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:29] <Music_Shuffle> and then modify to your hearts' content ;)
[09:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <bobsomebody> aha!
[09:29] <rockprincess> kravlin: lovely! thank you very much I'll have a look at that! i have a tendency to fuck my system up....
[09:29] <kazim59> rockprincess: installing grub fixes ur mbr.. if u install it at mbr
[09:29] <bobsomebody> much better, wth would they only do 2 on default?
[09:30] <Music_Shuffle> NeXtDaY, that's listed as a possible addition to Gutsy on the Ubuntuforums, apparently for now you'll have to drag-drop back with Gnome, sorry.
[09:30] <mudman266> #topic
[09:30] <oskude> daftman, 30sec delay remains also after commenting out the cdrom drive in /etc/fstab
[09:30] <unitexa> hello, i'm looking for some help...i'm installing ubuntu 7.04 on a dell lattitude d620 with the nvidia quadro chipset, and i can't get the native resolution working (1440x900)
[09:30] <rockprincess> kazim59: are there any risks? can I do more harm by reinstalling it?
[09:30] <took> rockprincess: here's a guide to re-insalling grub (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351)
[09:30] <kazim59> rockprincess: no its safe
[09:30] <daftman> oskude: hmm i'll have to get back to you on this one.
[09:30] <took> I messed up the MBR but re-installing grub made it fine
[09:30] <rockprincess> took: thank you that's what I needed!
[09:30] <kazim59> rockprincess: thats the only option availible since you are not able to boot your system normally... right?
[09:30] <rockprincess> THANKS TO EVERYONE here, who
[09:31] <bobsomebody> thanks guys, im out for a bit
[09:31] <NeXtDaY> Music_Shuffle: No problem at all. :)
[09:31] <rockprincess> who's been giving me some good advice :)
[09:31] <oskude> daftman, roger, thanks for the support :)
[09:31] <rockprincess> kazim59: indeed, i'm glad it's "only" the MBR...because I was fearing that my hd might have been damaged...
[09:31] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[09:31] <Triumph|TK> hello all
[09:31] <kazim59> rockprincess: do you know what error 21 means?
[09:32] <Triumph|TK> how is everyone
[09:32] <Taime1> how do you get konqueror to use plugins like flash and java in gnome?
[09:32] <kravlin> hey rockprincess: here's a post on the forums specifically for reinstalling grub. its what i used when i installed windows and it took over my MBR. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[09:32] <kazim59> rockprincess: even if your partition table is damaged... there's a lot of hope getting it fixed
[09:32] <unitexa> hmm anyone have any input on the wide flatpanel issue, not being able to choose the display's native resolution?
[09:32] <erUSUL> kravlin: there is wiki article too
[09:32] <erUSUL> !grub > kravlin
[09:33] <kravlin> erUSUL: Yes. I know what grub is.
[09:33] <Triumph|TK> im having trouble letting the outside world access my web server i have more details on my specific setup
[09:33] <laserbeak43> hi i have an old game i want to install but it requires me to install an older version of libgtk and glibc. can this be done without interfering with my newer versions?
[09:33] <george1> So nobody knows how to handle the issue with having multiple interfaces using the same mac address, BUT different ips
[09:33] <rockprincess> kravlin: cheers for that link, i'll definitely give it ago since it worked so well for you! next time i'll be more careful!!! :)
[09:33] <dyrne> laserbeak43: you might be able to make a symlink to the new lib and have it work
[09:33] <oskude> unitexa, propably "ubuntu" didnt find the right settings for you monitor, so maybe you have to write them manually... but no idea what, just an start where to look...
[09:34] <laserbeak43> whats a symlink?
[09:34] <laserbeak43> how?
[09:34] <unitexa> i've been all over the web looking at different ways to tweak xorg.conf
[09:34] <kazim59> rockprincess: Error 21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[09:34] <took> unitexa, you have to configure x.org file, I just configured fine and the monitor works fine
[09:34] <unitexa> but none of them seem to reflect at all
[09:34] <mezziah> laserbeak43: afaik you create a symlink (symbolic link) with ln -s <source> <target>
[09:34] <erUSUL> kravlin: i was pointing this >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <<<<
[09:34] <rockprincess> kazim59: i googled what Grub Error 21 could mean, and there were some posts that it has to do with MBR being fucked...and it makes sense, because right now I've booted the Knoppix CD and can access my hd....
[09:34] <dyrne> laserbeak43: a shortcut basically.  so 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gtk.so /usr/lib/gtk_oldversionname.so' so it finds it when it looks for it but uses the new one
[09:34] <kravlin> daftman: Do you know if it's safe to remove space from linux? Do i need to find a way to defrag my drive or anything before removing space?
[09:35] <freepenguin> www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html
[09:35] <VrilutZa> hi I need help
[09:35] <Triumph|TK> dont we all
[09:35] <oskude> unitexa, maybe trying "linux + your monitor model" with google
[09:35] <rockprincess> kazim59: so basically it has to do with the MBR, right?
[09:35] <unitexa> i have a laptop
[09:35] <daftman> kravlin: you don't need to defrag your drive in linux
[09:35] <kazim59> rockprincess: a simple cause maybe that you opened ur cabinet and changed the order of ur hard disks
[09:35] <dyrne> laserbeak43: often works.. sometimes not
[09:35] <laserbeak43> dyrne: so if i were to install it now it wouldnt necessaril cause a conflict?
[09:35] <VrilutZa> some Documentation to install ati radeon 9250
[09:35] <oskude> unitexa, and theres allso the question does the drivers of you graphics card (or the card itself) support widescreen resolutions
[09:35] <kazim59> rockprincess: don't worry at all, your data is safe
[09:35] <kravlin> daftman: ok. so removing space shouldn't be an issue. Got it.
[09:35] <daftman> kravlin: if you use gpart it should be safe to resize your disk
[09:36] <dyrne> laserbeak43: you can install the old lib too it wont be a problem. but you might not need to with the symlink. either way it wont hurt anything
[09:36] <daftman> kravlin: however, backup FIRST
[09:36] <rwaller> Hello all
[09:36] <greg_g> VrilutZa, I couldn't get my 3d accel working with that card, but great for desktop use without games/desktop-effects
[09:36] <rockprincess> kazim59: yeah that was a huge relief to say at least.....there's some important data for my phd...and i really don't wanna lose it...
[09:36] <unitexa> when i run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and pick nvidia, it does a detection script, then i choose the resolution that my monitor supports....it sets up the xorg.conf for me...but when i reboot and go in to "screen resolution" it still shows me the list without the one i want
[09:36] <kravlin> daftman: I can't mount it at this time. Im not really worried about loosing anything either.
[09:36] <laserbeak43> dyrne: cool thanks
[09:37] <RoC_MM> kravlin, use GParted (Gnome Partition Editor) to resize your disk.  It's available gratis as a liveCD and it's also on the Ubuntu CD.
[09:37] <VrilutZa> greg_g k thanks:D
[09:37] <kazim59> rockprincess: I can understand... PhD.... my sister is also pursuing a PhD....
[09:37] <RoC_MM> kravlin, on the ubuntu CD, it's under system/administrator
[09:37] <greg_g> VrilutZa, but I think there is a guide on the Ubuntu-docs webpage for it specifically
[09:37] <Quiz> Hello i just wana know.... im using ubuntu 7.04 and i wana know how can i change start menu in gnome mybe is web page with some guide? Please tell me
[09:37] <unitexa> i'm looking for anyone who has seen any info, or has themselves got ubuntu working on a wide aspect laptop with the native rez
[09:37] <oskude> unitexa, i dont really understand the "screen resolution" app in gnome... it doesnt show the same resolutions as in xorg.conf here neither...
[09:37] <rockprincess> kravlin: I will follow your advice and do exactly what is said in that post.....if it doesn't work, can I come back and ask for more advice?
[09:38] <daftman> Quiz: gnome-look.org
[09:38] <Taime1> unitexa: wide aspect?
[09:38] <unitexa> oskude: yeah it's very frustrating, so how do i "select" a resolution, i can edit the xorg.conf but what then?
[09:38] <rwaller> Do any one no anything about wine? Edit Wine registry? I installed a game what did not work so i wanna unstall it! Do any one no how on doing this?
[09:38] <unitexa> taime1: 16:9 aspect ...my panel is 1440x900
[09:38] <kravlin> ok. I changed around my partitions. Time to re-install linux then fix grub. Im off!
[09:38] <Triumph|TK> is there an ip denial list for ubuntu?
[09:39] <kazim59> rockprincess: if you ever run into disk problems.. try TestDisk before you throw away your hard disk
[09:39] <VrilutZa> greg_g I find to ubuntu-docs webpage it's good Documentation, it's avaible for ubuntu 6.10
[09:39] <RoC_MM> Triumph|TK, if you configure the firewall...why would you want to do that?
[09:39] <colbert> I have a dir full of a .zip files I want to extract to one place, what's the command line to do it ?
[09:39] <Taime1> unitexa:  my install went just fine
[09:39] <daftman> kazim59: i thought fsck would do fine
[09:39] <rockprincess> kazim59: ohh what is TestDisk? never heard of it so far...
[09:39] <oskude> unitexa, i remember needing to add some horiz and vert values for some machines... was a long time ago...
[09:39] <VrilutZa> to ubuntu 7.04 not working
[09:39] <VrilutZa> :(
[09:39] <esr> Where can I report problems with broken dependencies in the Fiesty Fawn repos?
[09:39] <kazim59> rockprincess: partition recovery tool.... it recovered my harddrive when I lost all hopes!
[09:39] <RoC_MM> rockprincess, testdisk recovers deleted partitions or if you overwrite your MBR it can scan the disk and find your partitions.
[09:40] <Triumph|TK> i cant access my open ssh server through my external ip i was going to see if somehow my own ip was in there
[09:40] <unitexa> Taime1: my install is just perfect as well, just not running at the resolution my monitor supports :/ it's not ugly, but it's not native either
[09:40] <Quiz> thanks
[09:40] <oskude> unitexa, and i also heard some chips need "modlines" or something (intel chips mostly,  i think)
[09:40] <NeXtDaY> how do i install PDF reader for mozilla Firefox? is is possible?
[09:40] <greg_g> VrilutZa, weird...  I didn't really try the 9250 in Fiesty
[09:40] <RoC_MM> NeXtDaY, you already have a pdf reader that appears when you access a PDF.
[09:40] <daftman> NextDay: Yes www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:40] <Taime1> unitexa: i have a 17" widescreen and it automagically detected my screen and set itself up to run at 1900*1200, i can also use other res
[09:40] <rockprincess> is testdisk an open source programme or do you have to pay for it?
[09:40] <RoC_MM> rockprincess, test disk is open-source, but that does not mean you don't have to pay for it.
[09:41] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[09:41] <NeXtDaY> daftman ok. I'll check that now
[09:41] <VrilutZa> k greg_g I try now thanks
[09:41] <unitexa> Taime1: is yours a laptop screen or an external panel
[09:41] <PIPBoy_> hi all
[09:41] <Taime1> unitexa: laptop
[09:41] <greg_g> VrilutZa, good luck
[09:41] <rockprincess> RoC_MM: true, i should have said FOSS.... ;)
[09:41] <daftman> rockprincess: hmm last time I check it's GPL
[09:41] <Lekrem> hey root_
[09:42] <kazim59> rockprincess: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[09:42] <rockprincess> daftman: wonderful :)
[09:42] <NeXtDaY> RoC_MM: do you mean like *Kpdf*. because , I mean sometimes I read some PDF files online...
[09:42] <rwaller> The thing is that i wanna install a game what is made by the same game makers! But when i have a go on installing it,It will not in still! It may by that it's the same file what i can not unstall what is doing my head in! Can any one help on editing Wine registry! Thats if you can do that
[09:42] <unitexa> Taime1: that's a crazy laptop screen ^_^ well i suppose i'm unlucky, but the dell d620 is pretty popular...i'm bummed that i'm getting so much trouble with this panel
[09:42] <hypn0> if you pay for it you got to be a bit stupid when you can download it from website :-))
[09:43] <RoC_MM> yeah NeXtDaY that's what pops up...what doesn't work with it?  When you access a word processing document, I would expect my word processor to open, when I access a PDF, I expect my PDF reader to open...how is this not what you want?
[09:43] <daftman> NextDay: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Adobe_PDF_Reader_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox_in_Feisty
[09:43] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[09:43] <root__> How can I reinstall gdm and all its configuration ? I keep  getting this error The accessibility registry was not found.
[09:43] <vic> salve a ragazzi
[09:43] <vic> c' qualcuno ...
[09:43] <RoC_MM> root__, do you have backups?
[09:43] <erUSUL> !it | vic
[09:43] <ubotu> vic: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:44] <intangir> i want to make a perfect backed up copy of a harddrive (its got windows)
[09:44] <intangir> but id like to do it on linux (from a live CD or something)
[09:44] <oskude> unitexa, was your problem with dell latitude d620 ?
[09:44] <intangir> want it to be restorable exactly if needed
[09:44] <NeXtDaY> daftman thanks. I appreciate it :)
[09:44] <erUSUL> !info partimage | intangir
[09:44] <ubotu> intangir: partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (feisty), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[09:44] <RoC_MM> intangir, although it's proprietary, I have had great success with the proprietary and commercial Acronis True Image v10.  Windows is fragile and all the other things I tried did not result in a working system after restore.
[09:45] <wpgmb> Hello everyone... I'm having an issue with flash player 9.. it is installed, according to "about:plugins", however, I can't make certain sites' flash usage work. Ie, my own site, www.specialmomentsphoto.ca - select a gallery, and see what happens. On my install, I get the message I need the latest flash player. I know it should work, because I have it working on a CentOS box at home. Can anyone help me where I should look to locate the
[09:45] <dyrne> intangir: dd|gz  is my way but there are many more intuitive
[09:45] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[09:45] <RoC_MM> I think you will find Windows fails to run after a restore with many methods...it's a fragile OS.
[09:45] <kazim59> erUSUL: how much compression?
[09:46] <oskude> wpgmb, FYI: i get the same thing here too...
[09:46] <RoC_MM> kazim59, Partition Image supports none, gzip, and bzip2 compression, images are usually pretty small especailyl when the drive is not totally full
[09:46] <erUSUL> kazim59: you can choose bz2 or gz afaik. Compression ratio depends on data being compressed
[09:46] <wpgmb> oskude: I
[09:46] <kazim59> RoC_MM: thats great! gparted also copies partitions but it cannot compress or backup
[09:47] <RoC_MM> kazim59, I usually used gzip and partition image for linux-based systems...I got around an image 66-75% of the size of the used space on the parittion.
[09:47] <wpgmb> oskude: I'm leaning towards a wrong path - but that's about it
[09:47] <rockprincess> ok, all...thanks for all your Help! I'll go now and try to fix my mbr.....I'll be back either way....thanks for all your help! wish me luck xxx
[09:47] <erUSUL> kazim59: a partition full of mp3 and movies will not compress very well... and empty partition will ;P
[09:47] <elfranger> greetings
[09:47] <erUSUL> rockprincess: good luck!
[09:47] <kid_3> hello! this is my first time trying to get some help on a IRC chat for ubuntu
[09:47] <elfranger> how may I impersonate the www-data user when downloading files into a new site using ssl
[09:47] <elfranger> ?
[09:48] <kazim59> rockprincess: let nobody destroy your system except you
[09:48] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[09:48] <RoC_MM> elfranger, that's a bit unclear what you mean.
[09:48] <wpgmb> kid_3: go ahead, and post your questions
[09:48] <hypn0> erUSUL: if a partition is empty, then there is nothing to compress :-)
[09:48] <PIPBoy_> hey, is anyone here a FALLOUT game series fan here?
[09:49] <NeXtDaY> !automatix
[09:49] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:49] <elfranger> ok, when I set up a site on my ubuntu server I usually use an ftp user I have created with access to the www root folder ( I run several sites)... when I upload files, they are owned by webmaster:webmaster
[09:49] <Ramzi> Hello.
[09:49] <kid_3> I was wondering if  someone here could help... I am trying to fix my Alps Touchpad, and I found a couple of guides online. Most of them require you to add something to the file /proc/bus/input/devices... thing is.. when i open devices.. it is just a blank text file.
[09:49] <RoC_MM> !worksforme
[09:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:49] <Ramzi> I recently installed Ubuntu, and Eclipse, and Eclipse CDT. I tried to write a simple Hello World program, but it says ...
[09:49] <Ramzi> that it can't find <stdio.h>.
[09:49] <wpgmb> kid_3: open the file as root
[09:50] <elfranger> however, using the CMS to download components and addons will do so that the new addons are owned by www-data:www-data which then gives me trouble when I need to modify langua files and such for the modules...
[09:50] <kid_3> "open file as root"  will "sudo nautilus" work?
[09:50] <wpgmb> kid_3: better yet - do as I do... install "mc" - you'll like it
[09:50] <elfranger> so I thought if I could actually use the www-data user when logging on through ftp and ssl would do the trick
[09:50] <Ramzi> Does anyone know why it can't find <stdio.h> ?
[09:50] <kid_3> mc?
[09:50] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[09:50] <kunwon1> midnight commander?
[09:50] <wpgmb> kid_3: yep
[09:51] <shwag> dpkg --get-selections    what is  deinstall  ?
[09:51] <wpgmb> kunwon1: that's the one
[09:51] <Music_Shuffle> gksudo nautilus, no?
[09:51] <vincenz> Is it possible to install ubuntu from a 5.1 install cd
[09:51] <RoC_MM> askand, try System/Administration/Sessiosn....you can see what will be run on login and stuff.
[09:51] <kunwon1> horrible app
[09:51] <vincenz> 5.10
[09:51] <kazim59> kid_3: sudo gedit /proc/bus/input/devices
[09:51] <Music_Shuffle> vincenz, and either run 5.10 or just update all the way to Feisty?
[09:51] <wpgmb> vincenz: why the torture??? Grab 7.04
[09:51] <vincenz> Music_Shuffle: yes
[09:52] <vincenz> wpgmb: my laptop is running out an dI don't feel like downing burning
[09:52] <Music_Shuffle> vincenz, both are possible to do, yes.
[09:52] <RoC_MM> vincenz, yes...that sounds like it would work, except you will probably want to grab a newer release before installing...5.04 came out 2 years ago.
[09:52] <vincenz> so I have to install my desktop
[09:52] <vincenz> 5.10
[09:52] <RoC_MM> vincenz, yes 5.10.....10th month of 2005
[09:52] <elfranger> hm
[09:52] <kid_3> i opened  as root, devices.. it is still blank... although every time i move the window it says "he file /proc/bus/input/devices changed on disk."then it asks me to reload
[09:52] <kid_3> devices file still comes up blank...
[09:52] <Music_Shuffle> RoC_MM, ...I -just- realized that's how the numbering works.  Wow.  >_<
[09:53] <NeXtDaY> !firestarter
[09:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:53] <RoC_MM> :-D  Music_Shuffle
[09:53] <phonox> ramzi: apt-get install libc6-dev
[09:53] <Ramzi> Does anyone in here use Eclipse CDT?
[09:53] <elfranger> what is the syntax for unpacking a .tar.gz?
[09:53] <phonox> ramzi: apt-get install libc6-dev
[09:53] <elfranger> tar -xvf?
[09:53] <vincenz> I have to eat dinner anyways ::)
[09:53] <Andrew67> NeXtDaY: its too bad firestarter hasnt been updated in ages
[09:53] <wpgmb> kid_3: seriously - install mc, then from a terminal, become root, launch mc and navigate to the file, and edit right in there
[09:53] <mom> how do i copy a cd
[09:53] <oskude> elfranger, tar -xzf foo.tar.gz
[09:53] <kazim59> kid_3: the file might be blank.. you may need to add the line everytime u turn on the system
[09:53] <StucKman> which is the best way to receive updates info via mail just for a certain release, say, dapper?
[09:53] <Music_Shuffle> mom, k3b?
[09:54] <wpgmb> mom: colour, or black and white?  :o)
[09:54] <RoC_MM> I have also used kmyfirewall, which can be easy or advanced...it's neat.
[09:54] <kid_3> so... sudo apt-get mc .. ?
[09:54] <Ramzi> It says invalid operation
[09:54] <oskude> mom, right click on the cd and select copy ? (or something like that=
[09:54] <kazim59> kid_3: sudo apt-get install mc
[09:54] <phonox> ramzi: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[09:54] <PIPBoy_> anyone here know anything about 64 bit linux please pm me, i could use some help
[09:54] <wpgmb> kid_3: try...
[09:54] <wesolek> hello
[09:54] <RoC_MM> mom, use a cd burning application like Brasero or GnomeBaker or K3b.
[09:54] <jammons> mom: have you tried just putting in the blank CD
[09:54] <StucKman> I think that if I subscribe to ubuntu-security-announce I will also get feisty's updates
[09:54] <wesolek> is anybody here great with video card issues?
[09:54] <NeXtDaY> Andrew67 Oops. I installed it with sudo apt-get install firestarter .. Do uou think I should remove that? !!@
[09:54] <kid_3> installing...
[09:55] <Ramzi> Thank you so much.
[09:55] <phonox> your'e welcome...
[09:55] <predaeus> PIPBoy_, just ask here, if anybody knows then they'll answer
[09:55] <kazim59> kid_3: thats good!
[09:55] <kazim59> wpgmb: what does mc do, sir?
[09:55] <Music_Shuffle> NeXtDaY, why would you remove it..?
[09:55] <kid_3> woah... this MC looks a little complicated
[09:55] <ompaul> wesolek, I know very little about them, in my own terms, you might know more, ask your question in the channel and see how you get on
[09:56] <PIPBoy_> anyone know what differences i will encounter with 64 bit ubuntu compared to 32 bit?
[09:56] <Andrew67> NeXtDaY: it works, its just old is all
[09:56] <wpgmb> kazim59: mc = "Midnight Commander" - an emulator of the old 'n trusty way of file managemnet under DOS
[09:56] <RoC_MM> kid_3, it's pretty simple.  you use tab to move from the left to the right pane and back
[09:56] <wpgmb> kid_3: looks are deceiving....
[09:56] <chadeldridge> hello again all
[09:56] <wesolek> ompaul, thanks, I am just having problems with summering my thoughts / problems into one logic sentence lol
[09:56] <Ramzi> Okay. I installed libc6-dev but I still get the same error
[09:56] <kunwon1> bash > mc
[09:56] <wesolek> ompaul
[09:56] <predaeus> PIPBoy_, look into the forums for info about that, I think there is even a list of problematic applications etc.
[09:57] <_dac> what do you do to change your nick password?
[09:57] <NeXtDaY> Music_Shuffle: I don't want to remove it but Andrew67 said it hasn't been updated ..
[09:57] <Music_Shuffle> PIPBoy_, 64 has some issues with multimedia stuffs, go 32 if in doubt.
[09:57] <RoC_MM> kid_3, you can use the arrow keys to move around, enter to explore compressed archives, and the fucntion keys to do actions.
[09:57] <wesolek> ompaul, but I'll try
[09:57] <ompaul> PIPBoy_, if you are not running large databases don't do 64bit all the multimedia stuff will kill you trying to get it running under 32bit
[09:57] <NeXtDaY> Andrew67 ok, thanks anyway
[09:57] <wpgmb> kid_3:  here's a hint: use the "home". "esc" and "enter" keys for quick navigation
[09:57] <Andrew67> NeXtDaY: there's really nothing else as good though
[09:57] <Andrew67> which is why its sad its rather old
[09:57] <Andrew67> (good as in friendly)
[09:57] <wpgmb> _dac: nick password????
[09:57] <shwag> why is  dpkg -l   still showing packages that are not on my system anymore ?
[09:57] <kid_3> ok, i found mdevices file, how do i open it?
[09:57] <Music_Shuffle> NeXtDaY, no need to trash it yet :D
[09:57] <NeXtDaY> Andrew67: Isee. I get your point.
[09:57] <_dac> thanks
[09:57] <wesolek> ok does anybody know how to install ATI Radeon IGP320M??? Basic ATI drivers on my ubuntu just don't work, only vesa!
[09:58] <Music_Shuffle> wpgmb, he meant his IRC nick
[09:58] <RoC_MM> shwag, that shoudl not be true...can you give a line example?
[09:58] <NeXtDaY> Music_Shuffle LOL. still didn't get the answer for that question. I think I need to ask it again ;-)
[09:58] <kid_3> nevermind, i found how to
[09:58] <shwag> RoC_MM:   dpkg -l | grep django
[09:58] <shwag> rc  python-django                0.95.1-1ubuntu1                        A high-level Python Web framework
[09:58] <erUSUL> !ati | wesolek
[09:58] <ubotu> wesolek: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <wpgmb> kid_3: found what... change/edit your file, or use mc?
[09:58] <shwag> RoC_MM: dpkg --get-selections | grep django
[09:58] <shwag> python-django                                   deinstall
[09:59] <kid_3> both, i think
[09:59] <wols> wesolek: basic ati being fglrx or the ones coming with ubuntu?
[09:59] <wesolek> ubotu, that didn't work, any of it
[09:59] <viden> How do you set an external usb disk to mount with me as the owner automatically ?
[09:59] <wesolek> wols, the one that comes with ubuntu
[09:59] <wpgmb> kid_3:  'k then. But hang on to mc - it's a real time saver
[09:59] <Bassetts> does dist-upgrade keep all programs, configs etc.?
[09:59] <RoC_MM> shwag, that is something that is removed but it's system-wide configuration has been left behind.  apt-get remove package removes a package but leaves it's system-wide config behind...apt-get remove --purge package removes it completely.
[09:59] <RoC_MM> shwag, you can use Synaptic to remove all config stuff left over from uninstalled packages.
[10:00] <kid_3> thanks a lot wpgmb, your a life saver
[10:00] <oskude> i got an old HP E-PC 40 and installed feisty (for my mom). but theres a 30sec long show stopper -> http://osku.de/feisty-20070621-1.png. it seems that its caused by the CD-ROM drive. when i remove the CD-ROM drive, the 30sec "delay" is gone. what could i test/investigate ?
[10:00] <RoC_MM> Bassetts, it will preserve what you have installed unless there's a conflict...no configs are removed, especially not user-configs
[10:00] <wpgmb> can anyone go to www.specialmomentsphoto.ca, pick any gallery, and tell me if it works for you? I've got flash-player 9 installed, and still get a message I should upgrade my flash player
[10:00] <shwag> RoC_MM: thanks
[10:00] <password> nick <password>poi321
[10:00] <t00na> took: reinstalling the network manager didn't seem to help :/
[10:00] <oskude> wpgmb, doesnt work here neither
[10:01] <Music_Shuffle> wpgmb, not functional for me either.
[10:01] <wpgmb> oskude: yeah - you told me earlier... now let's find someone where it does work  :o)
[10:01] <wesolek> nickrud was trying to help me out last night, but he said, there is only one other person that posted the same problem he could find on google, and that I need to wait for somebody really smart to help me out
[10:01] <oskude> wpgmb, ah ok, thought you just didnt understand my answer :P
[10:01] <wpgmb> Music_Shuffle: you got FP9 installed?
[10:01] <viden> How do you set an external usb disk to mount with me as the owner automatically ?
[10:02] <RoC_MM> wpgmb, maybe it assumes incorrectly there is a newer version of flash out, when adobe's version for linux is a version or two behind compared to the windows one.
[10:02] <ehc> Is there a tutorial to access shared folders on a windows machine? (NTFS)
[10:02] <RoC_MM> wpgmb, or maybe the flash detection is just bad.
[10:02] <RoC_MM> yes ehc try ubuntuguide.org
[10:03] <RoC_MM> but in the end you can just do Places/Connect to Server (or Network) ehc
[10:03] <wpgmb> Roc_MM: thing is... my main box at home is (thus far..) CentOS 4.4, with a slightly older kernel than Uby 704, and it works on that box (also FP9 installed on that box)... therefore - I'm thinking it's more of a path issue?
[10:03] <frank_> how know the install chillispot
[10:03] <Bassetts> does dist-upgrade keep all programs, configs etc.?
[10:03] <nickrud> wesolek, ah, you're back. Post the paste links for people to look at
[10:04] <CheshireViking> does anybody use a nomad 3 jukebox with feisty? i'm getting an error "Could not open jukebox: usb_set_configuration: Connection timed out" when the jukebox gets plugged in, can somebody help me get past the error message
[10:04] <RoC_MM> wpgmb, a good thought,but path issues are not relevant here...is it your site?
[10:04] <wesolek> hello nickrud
[10:04] <wpgmb> RoC_MM: yeah
[10:04] <t00na> ubotu: networkmanager?
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networkmanager? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <wesolek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:04] <imbecile> how do i create exceptions in firewall rules for azureus?
[10:04] <wesolek> I guess I should have said something other than just link
[10:04] <RoC_MM> wpgmb, check out SWFObject...it's a really correct and good way to detect flash....google it, and test it out and see if it works correctly...I think you'll find your flash detection is faulty.
[10:05] <erUSUL> !samba | ehc
[10:05] <ubotu> ehc: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:05] <RoC_MM> frank_, chillispot does not run on a PC...you can find documentation on their website?
[10:05] <wpgmb> Roc_MM: I'll check that. I should mention for clarity's sake - I didn't build the code behind the site; it's a template (free plugin for PS)
[10:05] <RoC_MM> wpgmb, http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
[10:05] <frank_> but i have a proble with the login
[10:05] <erUSUL> imbecile: which firewall front end are you using??
[10:06] <wpgmb> Roc_MM: the galleries part, that is
[10:06] <wesolek> nickrud, I am back as I want this sorted out asap, cos I don't want to start installing different things and making ubuntu to my please and then go back to suse and do it all over again
[10:06] <aleksanteri> how to add an user to a group?
[10:06] <`4aFkA`> can i somehow encrypt the URL address from ubuntu???
[10:06] <wesolek> ATI Radeon problem... here are the output files http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:06] <erUSUL> aleksanteri: System>Admin>users and groups
[10:06] <imbecile> erUSUL,  firestarter
[10:06] <aleksanteri> erUSUL: i'm on kde
[10:07] <michtok> hi everyone!
[10:07] <larsemil> i am looking and looking but cant find a good sound editor for my ubuntu
[10:07] <`4aFkA`> can i somehow encrypt the URL address from ubuntu???
[10:08] <t00na> how do I launch a gnome app as root?
[10:08] <michtok> does someone know where the mount options for external hard disks are stored?
[10:08] <wesolek> is anybody up for a real challenge??? ATI Radeon issues - xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:08] <t00na> gksu?
[10:08] <wesolek> lol
[10:08] <viden> t00na:  sudo
[10:08] <larsemil> t00na, gksudo
[10:08] <erUSUL> aleksanteri: man usermod
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> t00na: "gksu <app name>" from a terminal
[10:08] <viden> or gksudo
[10:08] <t00na> thank you.
[10:08] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, unfortunately, your question is borderline un-understandable.
[10:08] <hypn0> larsemil: audactiy is good, get the development version
[10:08] <viden> How do you set an external usb disk to mount with me as the owner automatically ?
[10:08] <larsemil> hypn0, thanks!
[10:08] <macpo3> can someone suggest a graphical audio file editor that will allow me to create single or mixed tones eg dtmf digits at various amplitudes etc
[10:08] <RoC_MM> michtok, you can type "mount" to see what's mounted...there is stuff in /etc/fstab as well.
[10:09] <kazim59> ubuntu checks all my harddisks using fsck at boot... it takes lot of time!!!
[10:09] <hypn0> larsemil: from http://www.getdeb.net/
[10:09] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM i want to encrypt the URL www.google.com to sometext.com from ubuntu
[10:09] <RoC_MM> viden, that should happen when you just plug it in...if not look in Places/Computer.
[10:09] <oskude> kazim59, at everyboot or just every 30 mounts ?
[10:09] <viden> roc_mm:  the drive mounts but its security is wrong i cant write to it
[10:09] <michtok> RoC_MM, I can put some mount options for the external disk into fstab but these seem not to be used
[10:09] <RodGo> hi all, i cant get my wireless card to work
[10:09] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, that's not encyption, it's just some sort of subsitution.
[10:09] <kazim59> oskude: at every booot
[10:09] <RodGo> i am using a compaq presario v5000 notebook
[10:10] <kazim59> oskude: all partitions... i think i should edit fstab?
[10:10] <oskude> kazim59, oh, thats not good, hmm...
[10:10] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, what exactly would happena fter this substitution takes places?  What's your desired behavior
[10:10] <oskude> kazim59, i sadly dont know where the fsck is started...
[10:11] <RoC_MM> macpo3, install ReZound...it is a quite good Free audio editor...I like it a lot.  I think it does DTMF
[10:11] <kazim59> oskude: /etc/fstab has an option to indicate which drives to check at boot
[10:11] <viden> 4aFkA:  i can only assume you are trying to mask your web traffic from either your workplace or isp?
[10:11] <wols> it only gets started when the fs is dirty
[10:11] <wesolek> ATI Radeon issues - xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:11] <wols> that is therason
[10:11] <michtok> RoC_MM, if I right-click on the device on my desktop and chose properties -> volume I get other mount options than the ones in fstab
[10:11] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM i want to bypass the AP security by change the google.com to sometext.com coz i can't open some pages..
[10:11] <MISTERTibbs> !who
[10:11] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[10:12] <oskude> kazim59, oh, interesting
[10:12] <wesolek> ATI Radeon issues (ubuntu ati drivers not working with my card, only vesa)- xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:12] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, could you do that before, on some different OS?
[10:12] <kazim59> oskude: got it... sixth field in /etc/fstab... you can see man fstab
[10:12] <RodGo> anybody can help me please_
[10:12] <RodGo> ?
[10:12] <wesolek> me too
[10:13] <RoC_MM> wesolek, keep trying, you might want to make a post on the forum.
[10:13] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM no.. I'm using only ubuntu.. can i do that on some other OS ?
[10:13] <erUSUL> !repeat
[10:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:13] <viden> 4aFKa:  if you are trying to bypass some form of web filtering software then even if you encrypt the name of the page your going to the IP it gets sent to in the end will be the same, unless you want to use some form of web proxy, but no idea if those still exist
[10:13] <oskude> kazim59, roger
[10:13] <wesolek> thanks, RoC_MM
[10:13] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, no I'm just trying to understand what your are trying to do....or if you could do it before....so you can't access google.com because that url is blocked....why don't you try something like proxify.com?
[10:14] <rockets> Whats a good alternative to XMMS other then VLC?
[10:14] <oskude> wesolek, could you post the xorg error log with the "no screens found" ?
[10:14] <wesolek> ubotu, was that to me?
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was that to me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <oskude> !ubotu
[10:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:14] <rockets> lol
[10:14] <rockets> !meaningoflife
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meaningoflife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM yes the url is blocked and i try to use web proxy but it blocks the flash app.. and i need them..
[10:15] <RoC_MM> rockets, the system comes with "totem", but I dont' like it at all....VLC is really for video I thinkz....I like visualizers...there is alots of stuff...bleep...I don't know if htat's for linux...amarok is popular, banshee, xine...etc
[10:15] <Pollywog> anyone know how I can install vmware-server from a tarball?
[10:15] <ehc> should this line work in my fstab to open a windows shared folder on ubuntu? "//servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  0  0"
[10:15] <Pollywog> feisty
[10:15] <wesolek> oskude, it's there in the same paste (just scroll down, the log file is at the bottom)
[10:15] <kazim59> I always wanted to play with ubotu but moderaters don't allow me to
[10:15] <rockets> RoC_MM, I dont want a giant library manager.
[10:15] <rockets> I want a player
[10:15] <rockets> also, gtk, not qt
[10:15] <oskude> wesolek, the last log i see is with error "xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xd8000000,0x0) (Invalid argument)"
[10:15] <rockets> Also, we should set !meaningoflife
[10:15] <rockets> to make ubotu say 42
[10:16] <RoC_MM> yes
[10:16] <rockets> !ubotu suggestions
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suggestions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <rockets> !ubotu factoids
[10:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:16] <aleksanteri> !pm | kazim59
[10:16] <ubotu> kazim59: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:16] <wesolek> oskude, I think this one was saying something about the framebuffer, but when I turn that on, it then returns the no screen found error
[10:16] <aleksanteri> er.. wrong one
[10:16] <RoC_MM> rockets, I'm not so sure...you may want to do a few google searches...tha'ts an easy question to answer, there are tons of media players.
[10:16] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM yes the url is blocked and i try to use web proxy but it blocks the flash app.. and i need them..
[10:16] <aleksanteri> kazim59: just pm ubotu
[10:16] <rockets> yeah
[10:16] <Music_Shuffle> !banshee
[10:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:16] <kazim59> rockets: well, it aint exactly 42... its a complex number actually
[10:16] <aleksanteri> kazim59: /msg ubotu !bot
[10:16] <oskude> wesolek, yeah, but there could be more info before the "last" line with "no screens found"
[10:17] <Pollywog> I messed up my vmware-server installation and I am having a problem reinstalling it
[10:17] <kazim59> aleksanteri: oh I know that
[10:17] <michtok> Has someone a clue where the mount options in the properties windows -> volume for a mounted external hard drive come from?
[10:17] <rockets> im going to check out audacious
[10:17] <mikeconcepts> Using Xubuntu...I'd appreciate a link to a howto for the best way to achieve  network connectivity to windows boxes on my network
[10:17] <wesolek> no no, oskude, that's all... I need to reconfigure the xorg.conf to turn it on
[10:17] <rockets> Pollywog, remove it with synaptic and use COMPLETE removal
[10:17] <RoC_MM> `4aFkA`, sorry...I don't have enough info to help you...if the restriction is there, talk to however controls your network.
[10:17] <rockets> Pollywog, that will delete the config files, which lets you install a clean vmware
[10:17] <`4aFkA`> RoC_MM thnx for the time..
[10:18] <Pollywog> rockets: this is not player but server.  Is there a deb for the server?
[10:18] <larsemil> hypn0, i dount get any sound in audacity. changed from oss to alsa but did not change anything
[10:18] <wesolek> oskude, what is see it what I got by just installing the ubuntu ati drivers without changing anything in them
[10:18] <rockets> Pollywog, yes hold on
[10:18] <Pollywog> I installed from a tarball and I have removed the old stuff but the new install says I have a kernel mismatch
[10:18] <oskude> wesolek, then please do what you did to get that "no screens found" in xorg log and post that log... we need a line with (EE)
[10:18] <rockets> Pollywog, its in canonical's commercial repository
[10:18] <hypn0> larsemil: you got the beta?
[10:18] <Pollywog> k
[10:18] <larsemil> hypn0, yes.
[10:18] <wesolek> nickrud, are you here?
[10:19] <rockets> here Pollywog
[10:19] <Pollywog> ty
[10:19] <rockets> put this in your sources.list file and smoke it
[10:19] <rockets> deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main
[10:19] <nickrud> wesolek, sort of, I'm at work
[10:19] <wesolek> hm... can you explain what is that I posted last night? I am out of formal terms for it
[10:19] <hypn0> larsemil: erm, I don't know what to say, works here
[10:20] <wesolek> nickrud, to oskude
[10:20] <oskude> wesolek, i wasnt here last night...
[10:20] <hypn0> larsemil: do you have a sound problem on your system :-/
[10:20] <larsemil> hypn0, never had
[10:20] <nickrud> oskude, he has a link to give, wesolek put it back up ;)
[10:20] <wesolek> I know, oskude, but nickrud was here... lol he's got the link
[10:21] <larsemil> hypn0, but in the version in ubuntu resp i get sound
[10:21] <wesolek> nickrud oskude, just explain what was that you told me to do to produce that error
[10:22] <oskude> wesolek, ah now i understand :)
[10:22] <Pollywog> the vmware server package wants to remove xinetd
[10:22] <hypn0> larsemil: you can stick with that then :-)
[10:22] <Pollywog> this is not good
[10:22] <nickrud> oskude, wesolek http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26514/
[10:22] <hypn0> there's also jokosher, you tried that?
[10:22] <Pollywog> that must be why I used a tarball in the first place, I knew there had to be a good reason
[10:22] <xst> When I perform an ssh login to a local host on the lan (directly to the IP), the ssh client waits for several seconds before it shows me the password prompt. How can I fix this?
[10:22] <hypn0> that's still being developed though larsemil
[10:22] <imbecile> how do i create exceptions in firewall rules for azureus with firestarter?
[10:23] <wesolek> oskude, but the thing is, that I can turn that framebuffer on and then I will get the no screens found error message
[10:23] <oskude> wesolek, do that, and repost that xorg error log
[10:23] <wesolek> oskude, if you want me to do it, that will take me just a few minutes
[10:23] <Pollywog> looks like I will need to recompile my kernel in order to install vmware
[10:24] <oskude> wesolek, i got time
[10:24] <jammons> Pollywog: have you tried Virtualbox
[10:24] <wesolek> but the default ati drivers setting are to set the framebuffer off :( oskude
[10:24] <wizard> anyone can trouble shoot with me why vlc can't seem to get audio?
[10:24] <Pollywog> I have been using vmware for a long time and it was working until a few minutes ago
[10:24] <wizard> got dvd video
[10:24] <wizard> no audio
[10:24] <tck> how do i list device ID types, i.e. linux swap is 82 etc..
[10:24] <Pollywog> when I tried to install the player
[10:24] <Pollywog> bit mistake
[10:24] <Pollywog> big*
[10:25] <jammons> bummer
[10:25] <oskude> wesolek, what im after is, ive seen "no screen found" couple times, and i allways was able  fix that by searching for a line with (EE) in xorg error log
[10:25] <wpgmb> tck: what are you trying to do? Simply get a list of Linux file types?
[10:25] <Pollywog> I think that going through a kernel compile has ffixed this problem before
[10:26] <wesolek> ok oskude, thanks a lot :) brb
[10:26] <joseRemote> \o
[10:26] <Pollywog> I don't need to actually install it, just go through the process of making one
[10:26] <Pollywog> then vmware will install
[10:26] <joseRemote> Anyone know if there is a package for "Finch" in ubuntu?
[10:26] <tck> wpgmb, got it, sudo fdisk /dev/sda ; L ;)
[10:26] <WaxyFresh> how do i install openGL?
[10:26] <qhartman> Anyone here have experience with the Proliant DL360s? the new 1U ones with 6 SFF SAS drives.
[10:26] <hypn0> joseRemote: you mean pidgin?
[10:26] <imbecile> hey guys, what should i use to open chm files?
[10:27] <joseRemote> hypn0: finch is the text version of pidgin
[10:27] <RoC_MM> tck I can see those when I use cfdisk, you could google it, or just pull up cfdisk and look at one of your partitions and try to change it and see the list
[10:27] <oskude> WaxyFresh, OpenGL is something that your graphics card and chip has to support
[10:27] <hypn0> yeah, but why would you want to use that joseRemote :-)
[10:27] <tyler_d> I want to switch back to gnome :(, in synaptic whats the package needed to get this back to gnome?
[10:27] <joseRemote> hypn0: the same reason I'm using irssi :P
[10:27] <oskude> WaxyFresh, *card and driver
[10:27] <trpr> hypn0: you mean why wouldn't you :p
[10:27] <WaxyFresh> oskude: so its not something i can install?i think mine should
[10:27] <qhartman> joseRemote: I don't know about finch, but CenterICq is a nice text-based IM client (that does multiple protocols
[10:27] <joseRemote> I'm not at this machine, and I doubt I ever will
[10:27] <joseRemote> will be*
[10:27] <oskude> WaxyFresh, you have to install the drivers
[10:28] <RoC_MM> tyler_d, like ubuntu-desktop?
[10:28] <oskude> WaxyFresh, what card do you have
[10:28] <WaxyFresh> oskude: i installed the unichrome driver from the repos
[10:28] <tyler_d> RoC_MM: is that whats its called
[10:28] <danny> #debian
[10:28] <RoC_MM> that installs all of ubuntu with gnome tyler_d
[10:28] <JasonAllen> sup y'all
[10:28] <oskude> WaxyFresh, ah, a intel card ?
[10:28] <tyler_d> RoC_MM: ty
[10:29] <WaxyFresh> oskude: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[10:29] <wizard> any ideas on why videolan gets no audio?? am i missing a configuration?
[10:29] <imbecile> hey guys, what should i use to open chm files?
[10:29] <tck> RoC_MM, yes thank you, I prefer cfdisk but i forget which tool it was again to list types
[10:29] <oskude> WaxyFresh, oh, a via chip, i dont know if those support opengl, never had one, sorry
[10:29] <tck> i was in grub for some reason :P
[10:29] <qhartman> imbecile: I don't know of anything on Linux that can read chm
[10:29] <Pollywog> chm is that a chemistry thing?
[10:29] <joseRemote> chm is compiled html
[10:29] <danny> #Debian
[10:35] <joseRemote> microsoft help file
[10:35] <JasonAllen> chm is microsoft's retarded help file format
[10:35] <Pollywog> oic
[10:35] <lsabalo> try kchmviewer
[10:35] <oskude> there are readers for MS help files
[10:35] <imbecile> qhartman,  ironically I am opening a linux ebook
[10:35] <RoC_MM> hahahahah
[10:35] <tck> for chm just use gnochm
[10:35] <imbecile> tck,  thanks
[10:35] <Pollywog> HymnToLife: you there?
[10:35] <oskude> i got an old HP E-PC 40 and installed feisty (for my mom). but theres a 30sec long show stopper -> http://osku.de/feisty-20070621-1.png. it seems that its caused by the CD-ROM drive. when i remove the CD-ROM drive, the 30sec "delay" is gone. what could i test/investigate ?
[10:35] <HymnToLife> Pollywog, seems so :p
[10:35] <Pollywog> HymnToLife: I need to reinstall vmware-server... has the install problem been fixed or should I use the same patch method as before?
[10:35] <HymnToLife> Pollywog, if vmmon refuses to compile, use the patch ;)
[10:35] <Pollywog> I broke my install by attempting to install the player
[10:35] <Pollywog> thanks
[10:35] <HymnToLife> there was a new verison ov vmware server released but I don't know if it was fixed
[10:35] <funkiwan> Can anyone help with an mdadm question?
[10:35] <Pollywog> thanks I will try that
[10:35] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: I'm no expert, but i'm willing to listen
[10:35] <wesolek> ok, oskude, do you know how to reset the xorg.config, cos' I can't find the ati drivers
[10:35] <funkiwan> I'm having trouble with mdadm raid0 on my swap partition after upgrading to feisty. It's currently in "State : clean, Not Started" and I'm not sure how to start it
[10:35] <funkiwan> I have another partition, that's raid1 that's fine
[10:35] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: so the mdadm process is running?
[10:35] <oskude> wesolek, you didnt do backup before modifying ? :P maybe try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:35] <funkiwan> yep
[10:35] <rapter> command to open app in specified workspace and how do I execute two comands in one (start two aps at together)???
[10:35] <wesolek> no no, that is to configure it, I need to reset it.. oskude, I have like 15 buckups by now of my xorg.config
[10:35] <wsjunior> first cmd; second cmd
[10:35] <hypn0> oskude: how do create one of those charts?
[10:35] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[10:35] <wsjunior> hi guys. i have this file (http://rafb.net/p/C3n4VQ45.nln.html) and i need to filter it to have just the package names, nothing more. how could i do that?
[10:35] <imbecile> hey guys, anybody have audio problems in feisty? it sounds like my speakers are blown.. any way to fix this?
[10:35] <oskude> wesolek, which ati driver you dont find ?
[10:35] <imbecile> maybe audio codecs?
[10:35] <Pollywog> I checked and 1.03 is still the latest version of vmware-server
[10:36] <wesolek> nickrud, can you tell me that command we used last night to reset the xorg.conf to original settings?
[10:36] <oskude> hypn0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting
[10:36] <wsjunior> hi guys. i have this file (http://rafb.net/p/C3n4VQ45.nln.html) and i need to filter it to have just the package names, nothing more. how could i do that?
[10:36] <wesolek> oskude, just the ati
[10:36] <tck> imbecile, did you look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Sound ?
[10:36] <nickrud> wesolek, oskude already told you ;)
[10:36] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: does dmesg say anything?
[10:36] <vecina> Can anyone tell me why loading up any compositing manager for an XGL session causes some of my system tray items to open as seperate windows? :/
[10:36] <imbecile> tck,  im there now thanks
[10:36] <wesolek> nickrud, that was something else...
[10:36] <wsjunior> vecine, it also happens here. no idea :/
[10:36] <oskude> wesolek, you could open the xorg.conf file and just add "ati" to the driver manually
[10:37] <vecina> Well its very annoying
[10:37] <wesolek> oh can I? oskude?
[10:37] <nickrud> wesolek, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:37] <Pollywog> vecina: I had a similar problem in PC-BSD but only with kmix
[10:37] <wesolek> yeah, that's it, nickrud
[10:37] <funkiwan> i'll put it in a pastebin
[10:37] <vecina> Pollywog: kmix and network manager here
[10:37] <oskude> wesolek, sure, i allways edit my xorg.conf manually :)
[10:37] <Shaftino> Is it possible to remove the network applet from the panel, without screwing up my networking?
[10:37] <Pollywog> I fixed it by removing kmix from session manager
[10:37] <tck> Shaftino, of course, you can just remove it
[10:37] <wesolek> I don't touch anything manually, as I have this ability to screw everything up in no time lol
[10:37] <oskude> wesolek, mine looks like this         Driver          "r128" (under Section "Device")
[10:37] <Shaftino> tck, Can i just remove it from my startup  session?
[10:38] <vecina> Pollywog: any session manager thing for kde?
[10:38] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: you could also try: mdadm --assemble --force --scan /dev/md
[10:38] <tck> Shaftino, ohhh well prob. not if you want networking
[10:38] <Pollywog> yes the session manager in KDE
[10:38] <oskude> wesolek, thats why we have backups :=
[10:38] <tck> Shaftino, are you trying to fine tune your systrem for speed?
[10:38] <Shaftino> tck, Okay, how do i just remove the applet?
[10:38] <vecina> Pollywog: i havwent seen that
[10:38] <vincenz> hmm
[10:38] <mars> Hi people i found some problem. When i watch movies on my screen (panoramic) they look terrible. On ubuntu and windoes either. How can i fix it on ubuntu?
[10:38] <vincenz> how do I distupgrade
[10:38] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: but checking the log is a better first step...
[10:38] <Pollywog> I just added kmix in the box where you add apps to be exluded from managerment
[10:38] <tck> Shaftino, right click remove (if its not locked)
[10:38] <funkiwan> here's what i've go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26655/
[10:38] <Shaftino> tck, No it just gets in the way, and i dont find it necessary
[10:38] <Pollywog> management
[10:38] <oskude> wesolek, so just edit to: Drivers "ati"
[10:38] <oskude> wesolek, btw, which ati chip do you have ?
[10:39] <Shaftino> tck, Cant do that, I can only enable networking, get information or help
[10:39] <imbecile> tck,  it says "    *  Add the following line to the end of the file, replacing '3stack' with your flavor (see below)" how do i determine what to put there?
[10:39] <kitsuneofdoom> Rhythymbox segfaulted randomly. Firefox has been crashing occasionally. I've never had these problems before upgrading to Feisty
[10:39] <oskude> wesolek, hups, ment: Driver "ati"
[10:39] <tck> Shaftino, you can then save seesion, its called nm-applet
[10:39] <funkiwan> yeah, i checked the log but it doesn't seem to yield anything that seems like trouble
[10:39] <vecina> Pollywog: But what if you WANT kmix in your system bar? i use it
[10:39] <wesolek> oskude, I think I need to edit it as you told me, it is ALI1535 (I think this is what you are asking me?)
[10:39] <PIPBoy_> anyone know what differences i will encounter with 64 bit ubuntu compared to 32 bit?
[10:39] <Pollywog> vecina: I still get it in my system bar  :)
[10:40] <tck> imbecile, eleminate your choices, what card do you have?
[10:40] <tck> *eliminate
[10:40] <wesolek> how can I uninstall fglrx?
[10:40] <oskude> wesolek, ALI... ? what does "lspci" show for that  chip ?
[10:40] <Pollywog> but I don't have to minimize it every time I start KDE
[10:40] <vincenz> +?
[10:40] <sluimers> I have problems with making printer work, can anyone help me with that?
[10:40] <vecina> Pollywog: no i mean, its in a window and not in my system bar!
[10:40] <wesolek> oskude, what is "lspci"?
[10:40] <Pollywog> oic
[10:40] <RoC_MM> PIPBoy_, a few pieces of software won't be availaable, mostly proprietary things...
[10:40] <rapter> command to open app in specified workspace and how do I execute two comands in one (start two aps at together)???
[10:40] <oskude> wesolek, command for the command line, to list devices in pci bus
[10:40] <riotkittie> PIPBoy_: you're going to run into issues with a lack of 64bit apps but there are ways to get around them ... ie flash
[10:40] <Pollywog> vecina: this happens in KDE?
[10:40] <vincenz> How do I do a dist-upgrade now that I have installed 5.10 from bootc?
[10:41] <oskude> wesolek, look for a line with 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:
[10:41] <Bassetts> does dist-upgrade keep all programs, configs etc.?
[10:41] <tck> wesolek, list all PCI devices
[10:41] <riotkittie> but for the most part, you shouldnt have huge issues.
[10:41] <sluimers> I use Ubuntu feisty, the printer is connected through USB to a win XP computer
[10:41] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: anything there stand out to you?
[10:41] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: did u try to assemble it manually?
[10:41] <vecina> Pollywog: yeah :/
[10:41] <sluimers> CUPS says: "Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds..."
[10:41] <imbecile> tck, i have intel graphics media accelerator 950 card
[10:41] <wesolek> oskude, tck ???? I'm a newbie
[10:41] <vecina> Pollywog: but only in XGL mode
[10:41] <tck> vincenz, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect feisty, then save it and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:41] <Pollywog> vecina: oic
[10:41] <oskude> wesolek, ok, you never used "terminal" ?
[10:41] <sluimers> I don't know what to do.
[10:41] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: your mdadm stats doesn't look weird
[10:42] <Pollywog> I assume you have it configured to dock to panel
[10:42] <tck> wesolek, go to Applications > Teminal and type in lspci
[10:42] <wesolek> I did, oskude, but I need to know the command
[10:42] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: but your dmesg log might contain a clue why it didn't load properly
[10:42] <wesolek> oh... lol
[10:42] <oskude> wesolek, ah ok, the command is: lspci
[10:42] <vincenz> tck: where do I get the links?
[10:42] <tck> wesolek, sorry Applications > Accessories > terminal
[10:42] <Ambientmstr> Can anyone help me get the borders around my windows? I added those addARGBLXVisuals" and the other codes to my xorg.conf, restarted x, but to no avail. Help please? Kubuntu Feisty user btw.
[10:42] <vecina> Pollywog: erm, not in the system tray i hhavent
[10:42] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: I tried "sudo mdadm -A -R /dev/md1" and got "mdadm: device /dev/md1 already active - cannot assemble it"
[10:42] <wesolek> sorry oskude, must have missed that
[10:42] <iTurtle> !kubuntu | Ambientmstr
[10:42] <ubotu> Ambientmstr: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:42] <oskude> wesolek, np, its a crowdy channel here :)
[10:42] <edx> hola!!
[10:43] <Pollywog> vecina: open kmix to "configure kmix" and check the "dock to panel" checkbox
[10:43] <maeth> how can i avoid to delete a package?
[10:43] <iTurtle> !es | edx
[10:43] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: hmm - lemme check docs
[10:43] <Ambientmstr> I didn't think it made much of a difference...
[10:43] <ubotu> edx: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:43] <tck> imbecile, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239389 :)
[10:43] <vecina> Pollywog: aha! thanks.
[10:43] <mars> anyone with panoramic screen? how can i make movies look good?
[10:43] <maeth> aptitude is trying to delete a package that i use cause it says its no longer used...
[10:43] <iTurtle> maeth: that's just weird...
[10:43] <maeth> how can i prevent that?
[10:43] <maeth> iTurtle, yeah...
[10:43] <wesolek> oksude, tck, here it is: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[10:44] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: the first two lines in my pastie are my grep through dmesg. less'ing dmesg doesn't seem strange
[10:44] <iTurtle> maeth: are you in Feisty?
[10:44] <maeth> yeah
[10:44] <maeth> iTurtle, this one vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16
[10:44] <oskude> wesolek, is that a notebook ?
[10:44] <iTurtle> maeth: ok. never mind. I was going to tell you to upgrade ;)
[10:44] <wesolek> mine is actually 320M, oskude, tck
[10:44] <imbecile> tck: thanks you are the man, you rule, you are awesome.. tck rules!!
[10:44] <iTurtle> !bugs | maeth
[10:44] <ubotu> maeth: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:44] <wesolek> yes, oskude
[10:44] <shwag> with ssh keys, I can ssh from server A to B   or  A to C   but I cant go from A to B to C.  A has my private key.  How can I get from A to B to C ?
[10:44] <askand>  I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[10:45] <oskude> wesolek, which notebook ? model ?
[10:45] <iTurtle> askand: try
[10:45] <iTurtle> askand: try system>preferences>session
[10:45] <oskude> wesolek, this could be (sadly) interesting https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1913
[10:45] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: saw your dmesg - but i think it needs a few more lines to understand why it stopped - cat the whole thing and load up in an editor
[10:45] <karaj> can somebody help me to change the resolution? thanks
[10:45] <wamtt> how can i install flex?
[10:45] <iTurtle> askand: there should be a "startup programs" tab
[10:46] <askand>  iTurtle:  hrm that doesnt work..i want to change what the program loads at start..not what ubuntu loads at start
[10:46] <wesolek> it's presario 2500
[10:46] <wesolek> oskude
[10:46] <wamtt> how can i install flex?
[10:46] <edward_> how do I find out which generation/model of ipod I have
[10:46] <JasonAllen> funkwan: i lost the history of the command you tried, but did you try --> mdadm --run /dev/md1 ?
[10:46] <vox754> !repeat > wamtt
[10:46] <iTurtle> askand: oh. ok. I'm sorry
[10:46] <oskude> wesolek, but wait, you wanted to use "ati" driver, that should work
[10:46] <aleksanteri> wamtt: compile or use apt
[10:46] <Shaftino> Anyone help me get rid of the NetworkManager Applet?
[10:46] <wamtt> how to use apt
[10:46] <tck> wamtt, apt-get install flex
[10:46] <aleksanteri> wamtt: sudo apt-get install flex
[10:46] <wesolek> no it didn't, oskude
[10:46] <tck> wamtt, Apps > Access > Terminal, sudo apt-get install flex
[10:47] <iTurtle> Shaftino : you can't
[10:47] <edward_> how do I find out which generation/model of ipod I have
[10:47] <iTurtle> Shaftino: only if you remove the notification area
[10:47] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: I've updated my pastebin with more of the dmesg output
[10:47] <Shaftino> iTurtle, Thats abit sad...
[10:47] <iTurtle> Shaftino: well, if you add in a separator, it can look a bit like the notification area ;)
[10:47] <oskude> wesolek, you got the "no screens found" error with ati driver, right ? it could be the error is not in the driver...
[10:47] <wamtt> it not works
[10:47] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: reading...
[10:47] <wesolek> actually this isn't true (suse had no problems)
[10:47] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: I should add that this is after I removed the entry in /etc/fstab so swap isn't being mounted
[10:48] <wesolek> what can it be, oskude then?
[10:48] <iTurtle> Shaftino: because it's not really an applet, since it's inside the notification applet.
[10:48] <Incarnadine> Can someone point me to a resource that details upgrading 6.06 LTS to the current distro?
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[10:48] <iTurtle> Incarnadine: System>Administration>Update manager
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[10:48] <oskude> wesolek, please use the "ati" driver and repost the xorg error log. i just wanted to know you really got an ati card...
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[10:48] <oskude> !ops
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[10:48] <Pollywog> stop that
[10:48] <iTurtle> !spam | WalrusKing
[10:48] <[ThC] Primski> Boooooooooom!
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[10:48] <oskude> thanks
[10:49] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: Meaning, this problem started happening, and I commented out the swap line in /etc/fstab to prevent my machine from trying to mount the partition while I was working on it
[10:49] <tck> !Enter
[10:49] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:49] <wamtt> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:49] <user_> the debian install on 171mb HD didnt worked -.-
[10:49] <wamtt> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:49] <iTurtle> !behavior | [ThC] Primski
[10:49] <ubotu> [ThC] Primski: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:49] <Incarnadine> iTurtle: The update manager doesn't indicate I can update the OS, only packages, which are current.
[10:49] <wamtt> That's the error I get.
[10:49] <skreet> wamtt: Do a ps aux|grep apt and make sure there are no dead/running processes using it.
[10:49] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: so you're trying to mount the swap on this raid partitions?
[10:49] <nickrud> wamtt, you probably have synaptic or another package manager open at the same time
[10:50] <skreet> wamtt: Then try ps aux|grep synaptic as well.
[10:50] <iTurtle> Incarnadine: well, you can download feisty, install it on a partition, copy all of your LTS files into the Feisty partition then use GParted to get rid of the LTS partition
[10:50] <wesolek> ok oskude
[10:50] <iTurtle> Incarnadine: sounds a bit complicated, but that's all I can think up ;)
[10:50] <skreet> iTurtle you can do apt-get dist-upgrade, can'
[10:50] <skreet> can't you?
[10:51] <oskude> wesolek, im just saying that the current xorg error log is not very usefull (atleast to me) as theres no line with (EE)
[10:51] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: i'm running out of ideas and gotta run. Sorry i wasn't more help
[10:51] <Incarnadine> apt-get dist upgrade doesn't do it either.
[10:51] <JasonAllen> funkiwan: good luck!
[10:51] <wamtt> synaptic is what?some program
[10:51] <nickrud> !upgrade | Incarnadine
[10:51] <ubotu> Incarnadine: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:51] <imbecile> hey guys, can anyone help me install mesa 3d gl driver .. the repo is there http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html i dont know how to add the repo
[10:51] <aleksanteri> wamtt: a download manager
[10:51] <iTurtle> !synaptic | wamtt
[10:51] <ubotu> wamtt: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:51] <funkiwan> JasonAllen: thanks for trying!
[10:51] <tom__> What would be a webcam that would work well with ubuntu?
[10:52] <funkiwan> Anyone else available to troubleshoot and mdadm problem?
[10:52] <iTurtle> !webcam | tom_
[10:52] <ubotu> tom_: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:52] <oskude> wesolek, OH WAIT! im so stupid...
[10:52] <oskude> you ARE allready using ati, sorry my mistake :(
[10:53] <iTurtle> oskude: it's spelled "already" ;)
[10:53] <wamtt> how to kill it?
[10:53] <iTurtle> wamtt: sudo killall synaptic
[10:53] <Pollywog> oskude: were you trying to convince someone to switch from Nvidia to ATI or something?
[10:53] <iTurtle> wamtt: maybe
[10:53] <karaj> hi, I need some help to change the resolution to 1280x1024. Can somebody help me?
[10:53] <oskude> iTurtle, yup, i somehow always forget that :/
[10:53] <iTurtle> wamtt: try pressing tab after it
[10:53] <oskude> Pollywog, no
[10:53] <iTurtle> wamtt: to see if you have more options
[10:53] <Pollywog> k
[10:54] <stefg> imbecile: this seems no binary repo, but git-driven source code... are you sure you want that?
[10:54] <tck> karaj, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[10:54] <omer> i can not make root pass for mysql
[10:54] <oskude> wesolek, instead put that framebuffer to "yes" and repost the xorg.log
[10:54] <omer> pls help!
[10:54] <iTurtle> !server | omer
[10:54] <ubotu> omer: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[10:54] <imbecile> stefg,  well i need the drivers, my sound is crackled
[10:54] <imbecile> stefg,  is there any other options?
[10:54] <omer> not server
[10:55] <omer> personal computer
[10:55] <kmaynard> !lts
[10:55] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:55] <Pollywog> omer: did you try mysqladmin command?
[10:56] <illriginal> anyone good with gimp? I have a question!
[10:56] <omer> yes a tried
[10:56] <vox754> !ask | illriginal
[10:56] <ubotu> illriginal: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:56] <dchky> illriginal: maybe you should try #gimp
[10:56] <Pollywog> omer: did you just install mysql?
[10:56] <oskude> wesolek, still there ?
[10:56] <stefg> imbecile: this is /graphics/-drivers... if you have sound problems rather look at alsa. i think you should exlain your problem again, i'm under the impression you are misunderstanding something
[10:56] <illriginal> nah.. gimp channel is beat. No one's talkin
[10:56] <omer> but i took this message "mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[10:56] <omer> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[10:56] <omer> "
[10:57] <omer> yes i just install it
[10:57] <boran> My external usb disk gets automounted with root's group. How can I easily/safely change the gid?
[10:57] <wesolek> yeah. oskude... had to do something
[10:57] <Pollywog> omer can you connect to the server on port 3306 on localhost using telnet?
[10:57] <shak> If i switch to another user, and then switch back to the old, I just get a black screen. I'm able to move the mouse cursor and terminate the X server with ctrl-alt-backspace, but it's very annoying. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:57] <oskude> wesolek, ok, np. just checking i didnt scare you away ;)
[10:58] <Pollywog> telnet localhost 3306
[10:58] <iTurtle> I love the open-source community. Everyone helping each other out, being teachers and students at the same time.... Isn't this great? :)
[10:58] <imbecile> stefg,  I have garbled sound and bad video resolution in vlc on a gateway mx6920.. i was wondering how to fix it
[10:58] <tck> iTurtle, give me money!
[10:58] <wesolek> lol. oskude, quite opposite
[10:58] <iTurtle> tck, why?
[10:58] <publico> publico
[10:58] <petr4> hello
[10:58] <oskude> shak, did you try to press a button on the keyboard ? there should come a new input window for password
[10:59] <shak> oskude: yes, there is (the cursor changes). I can type in the password and the window seems to go away, but it's still totally black
[10:59] <Pollywog> omer: have you edited my.cnf?
[10:59] <wesolek> ok oskude, brb
[10:59] <oskude> shak, ah ok, havent seen the...
[11:00] <oskude> shak *that
[11:00] <rockets> anybody know if theres a way to stop drivel from checking everything on boot
[11:00] <rockets> on start rather
[11:00] <askand> I need help with the proogram screenlet..I added a mailchecker and now the program hangs every timeI open it..How can I remove that setting so it doesnt load the mailhecker at start?
[11:00] <rockets> im downloading a 15gb torrent, its taking forever
[11:00] <omer> Pollywog:no
[11:00] <iTurtle> tck: one problem... you're in Ireland, I'm in Brazil....
[11:00] <iTurtle> Euros and Reals are not the same thing...
[11:00] <rockets> oops
[11:00] <rockets> i meant deluge
[11:00] <Pollywog> omer: can you connect to mysql server at localhost?
[11:01] <stefg> imbecile: have you double checked with another player? can be codec problems. too. Don't assume too fast that it's a driver issue
[11:01] <Pollywog> using telnet
[11:01] <iTurtle> omer and Pollywog | server
[11:01] <iTurtle> !server | omer, Pollywog
[11:01] <ubotu> omer, Pollywog: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[11:01] <Pollywog> iTurtle:k I did not know it was off-topic
[11:01] <iTurtle> Pollywog: it's ok.
[11:01] <iTurtle> Pollywog: we're just trying to keep the ubuntu room cleaner ;)
[11:02] <DrFrasierCrane> does anyone use ipset module in iptables ?
[11:02] <iTurtle> Pollywog: like I said "we're all teachers and students here"
[11:02] <Pollywog> omer: maybe try the channel for server problems
[11:02] <iTurtle> Pollywog, omer: try #ubuntu-server
[11:02] <iTurtle> Pollywog, omer: you'll get more help ther
[11:02] <iTurtle> *there
[11:02] <imbecile> stefg,  i have had the video problem with all the videos i've tried.. also when playing  mp3  sounds like my speakers were blown
[11:03] <Pollywog> iTurtle: I am not the one who had the problem, it's omer
[11:03] <omer> ok thx
[11:03] <dchky> imbecile: are you sure your speakers are not blown? :-)
[11:03] <stefg> imbecile: have you tried totem or mplayer as well?
[11:03] <imbecile> stefg,  what codecs should i pick up?
[11:03] <Pollywog> iTurtle: it's like you are kicking me out   ;)
[11:03] <dchky> Pollywog: iturtle is a bot, no sense arguing with it.
[11:03] <Pollywog> oh
[11:03] <Pollywog> I had no idea
[11:04] <imbecile> dchky,  yes i just used them in win yesterday.. i just junked win so i need to figure out how to fix in linux
[11:04] <dchky> apologies, I came a little late, what type of sound card do you have?
[11:04] <boran> :-)
[11:04] <imbecile> stefg,  i dont have the codec packs for totem or mplayer
[11:04] <imbecile> !codecs
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <rapter> command to open app in specified workspace and how do I execute two comands in one (start two aps at together)???
[11:04] <sluimers>  Can someone help me? I can't ping my windows computer on my tiny local network.
[11:05] <Warbo> rapter: for the latter you can do "app1 & app2"
[11:05] <naor> hi
[11:05] <dchky> sluimers: do you have an ip address assigned to both computers? ifconfig will help
[11:05] <oskude> rapter, i think the second was: command 1 && command 2
[11:06] <vox754> !devilspie
[11:06] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[11:06] <Warbo> oskude: using & will run 1 AND 2, using && will run 1 THEN 2 (ie. after 1 has finished)
[11:06] <oskude> sluimers, what IP does the 2 machines have ? (do they both have an ip)
[11:06] <sluimers> dchky, 192.168.0.100  and 101 (windows)
[11:06] <oskude> Warbo, thanks, i somehow allways forgot that :) (as i never use it)
[11:07] <sluimers> dchky, 100 = Ubuntu
[11:07] <wastedfluid> Hello.  What is the easiest way to upgrade from 6.06lTS to 6.10?  I have read that if you do it the "GUI" way, it corrupts a bunhc of stuff.  Anyone have any ideas ? I don't want to have to re-install everything.
[11:07] <dchky> are you connecting via a router or switch?
[11:07] <sluimers> dchky, router
[11:07] <TheCreationist> neverblue: Just wanted to let you know that deleting ~/.gconf did the trick.. I can login to gnome without a problem now.
[11:07] <slash> hi
[11:08] <dchky> I'm somewhat assuming you've got everything plugged and all lights on, can you ping in the other direction, from windows to ubuntu?
[11:08] <sluimers> dchky, my windows computer can see my Ubuntu computer, just not the other way around
[11:08] <imbecile> any know of any good video codecs for use with vlc?
[11:08] <dchky> Ahhh.
[11:08] <wesolek> ok sokude, I'm back
[11:08] <oskude> sluimers, firewall on in windows ?
[11:08] <DrFrasierCrane> wastedfluid: have you tried to execute "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[11:08] <dchky> Firewall somewhere.
[11:08] <wesolek> oskude, no good news though
[11:08] <sluimers> oskude, yes
[11:08] <oskude> wesolek, oh ?
[11:08] <wesolek> I couldn't change the error message for ati drivers, oskude
[11:09] <oskude> sluimers, try turning firewall in windows off, or somehow check if it denys pinhs
[11:09] <neverblue> nice
[11:09] <wastedfluid> DrFrasierCrane; I was afraid to try it due to the nightmares I have heard about it..
[11:09] <sluimers> oskude, okay, bbiab
[11:09] <DrFrasierCrane> wastedfluid: be sure to read this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[11:09] <oskude> wesolek, still the "xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xd8000000,0x0) (Invalid argument)" erro ?
[11:09] <wesolek> yes, oskude
[11:10] <oskude> wesolek, is that the right log ? check the date+time
[11:10] <DrFrasierCrane> wastedfluid: "Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED"
[11:10] <wesolek> yes, I just save one with your name in it
[11:10] <DrFrasierCrane> so your best choice is to execute "gksu "update-manager -c"
[11:10] <wesolek> and comapred
[11:10] <wesolek> oskude
[11:10] <sluimers> oskude, it's off, but I still can't ping
[11:10] <DrFrasierCrane> i think i upgraded from 5.10 to 6.04 this way
[11:10] <oskude> sluimers, hmm, can you ping the router ?
[11:10] <wesolek> sorry oskude, I keep forgetting to type your name
[11:10] <DrFrasierCrane> and it was fine
[11:10] <nixnoob> is there a way to set which of my two network connections is the preferred one?
[11:10] <sluimers> oskude, yup
[11:11] <oskude> wesolek, np :) hmm... and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the framebuffer "yes" ?
[11:11] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: what do you mean "preferred" ?
[11:11] <oskude> sluimers, weird...
[11:11] <wesolek> let me check it, oskude
[11:12] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, I mean I have eth0 and wlan0 I want only to use wlan0 when eth0 is disconnected.
[11:12] <oskude> sluimers, what does ping tell you ? (paste just one line)
[11:12] <wesolek> oskude, that file doesn't contain that word framebuffer
[11:12] <leviatan> hi everybody!!!
[11:12] <vox754> nixnoob: maybe you can check that in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:13] <oskude> wesolek, ok, that _is_ the file that should contain it
[11:13] <leviatan>  I need some help with my audio card via 8237 I want have sourround sound (5.1) I wrote this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26657/  the problem is when I want to see a video, the video freezes and I can't heard anything, but when I erase the .asoundrc file from my home I can see the video normally
[11:13] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: you could try setting up different "locations" in network manager
[11:13] <leviatan> someone could help me please?
[11:13] <nixnoob> vox754, what would i be looking for?
[11:13] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: i mean setting up dns servers etc. and then easily switch between the two connections
[11:13] <wesolek> hold on, let me check if the actual one's got it
[11:13] <boran> leviatan: what is your problem?
[11:13] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, explain please?
[11:13] <sluimers> oskaude, 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5999ms
[11:14] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: go to System > Administration > Network
[11:14] <vincenz> I have a problem while upgrading to feisty
[11:14] <oskude> sluimers, hmm, thats very odd...
[11:14] <vox754> nixnoob: well you should read "man interfaces" for details, but maybe disable the "auto" options, so you would need to "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" whenever you want.
[11:14] <wastedfluid> DrFrasierCrane; gksu "update-manager -c" fails after "Preparing the upgrade" with "failed to fetch packages.gz not found
[11:14] <vincenz> about unmet packages regarding python
[11:14] <nixnoob> vox754, im using console now im trying to avoid that.
[11:14] <wastedfluid> I'll just downlaod the cd, burn it, and upgrade from CD.
[11:14] <vincenz> and evolution seems to have failed
[11:14] <oskude> sluimers, and ping from windows works ? are you typing the windows ip correc ? check with ifconfig under windows
[11:15] <leviatan> boran: I want to know if is something wrong with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26657/ because with that file I can have sorround sound, but I can't watch videos
[11:15] <wesolek> the one I am using now has this Option "UseFBDev" "true"
[11:16] <wesolek> oskude
[11:16] <vox754> leviatan: what is that?
[11:16] <wastedfluid> DrFrasierCrane; Do you have any idea where to find the 6.10?  I can't find it on Ubuntu.com...  I
[11:16] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, Ok, so I disable all but eth0 and save it as "home" and then disable all but wlan0 and call that "away"?
[11:16] <sluimers> oskude, I can access both shared folders on the windows computer
[11:16] <oskude> wesolek, you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf has that line ?
[11:17] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, then I can just change from home to away and back when i need to?
[11:17] <sluimers> oskude, *shared spaces
[11:17] <wesolek> oskude, I've got something in this file that is commented out (#path to defoma fonts) can I delete it?
[11:17] <wesolek> yes, oskude
[11:17] <wastedfluid> nevermind, got it
[11:17] <wastedfluid> thanks.
[11:17] <oskude> sluimers, i would check that you use the same ip you get with "ifconfig" (or wasit ipconfig) under windows command prompt
[11:17] <vox754> nixnoob: seems very reasonable. I haven't tried that way because, well, I don't move my PC from my home.
[11:17] <oskude> wesolek, please dont delete anything yet :)
[11:18] <sluimers> oskude, did that, it's 192.168.0.101
[11:18] <leviatan> vox754 I wrote that to have 5.1 sound i created a file in my /home (.asoundrc)
[11:18] <petr4> nixnoob: it should not be necessary to disable eth0. unplugging/ plugging  is detected and handled correctly
[11:18] <nixnoob> vox754, this is a laptop =)
[11:18] <oskude> sluimers, very very odd...
[11:18] <sluimers> oskude, you can say that again
[11:18] <oskude> wesolek, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log still doesnt have "no screens found", or a line that starts with (EE)
[11:18] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: yes
[11:18] <oskude> sluimers, sorry, i cant think of anything that could be causing that...
[11:19] <wesolek> yes, oskude, the etc/... xorg.conf has this FB line, no but this time I am back on vesa and the screen was found
[11:19] <DrFrasierCrane> wastedfluid: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[11:19] <wesolek> so there was no error
[11:19] <wesolek> oskude
[11:19] <leviatan> but that is my problem because I can't watch videos... the video just freezes, and i cant heard anything, boy when I erase the .asoundrc file from my /home I can watch the video normally
[11:19] <nixnoob> petr4, not the issue, i have preference for the wired connection when its available.
[11:19] <oskude> sluimers, only that windows (or the router) is filtering ping
[11:19] <petr4> nixnoob ok
[11:20] <vox754> leviatan: how did you wrote that file? Is it some programming?
[11:20] <oskude> wesolek, oh ? even that if it has "ati" driver it uses vesa ?
[11:20] <sluimers> oskude, I'll check the firewall and anti-virus again, maybe part of it is still working
[11:20] <oskude> sluimers, can you ping linux machine from windows ?
[11:20] <sluimers> oskude, I'll check
[11:20] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, your solution is not working, wlan0 is not downed and it tries to handle all the in/out
[11:21] <sluimers> oskude, yup
[11:21] <oskude> wesolek, and how do you know its using vesa ?
[11:21] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: did you save the location config ?
[11:21] <wesolek> oskude, the xorg.conf files I copied after installing the ati drivers (with result in error message) didn't have a FB line in them... however, to be back on this chat I had to load the only drivers that work - vesa, and when I check this file, the FB line is there in the xorg.conf
[11:21] <nixnoob> DrFrasierCrane, yes.
[11:22] <leviatan> vox754 no someone told me how to have 5.1 sound with my via 8237 audio card, he told me that I had to create that in ,/home, and it works but I can watch videos
[11:22] <DrFrasierCrane> nixnoob: hmm, did you click "apply" after switching between configs ?
[11:22] <wesolek> lol oskude, did it answer your question?
[11:22] <oskude> wesolek, hmm. so you have now usefbdev true and driver "vesa" in xorg.conf atm ?
[11:23] <wesolek> yes, oskude
[11:23] <Pie-rate> how simple would it be to set up a RAID0 of 2 36gb raptors on an nforce4 board?
[11:23] <oskude> wesolek, then please change _manually_ the driver to "ati" (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:23] <vox754> leviatan: is it an integrated sound card in the motherboard or laptop? If it is, it is possible that it doesn't quite support 5.1 channels
[11:23] <wesolek> I'm in now
[11:24] <frank_> how can help me to chillispot ?
[11:24] <roland_> I just installed ubuntu 7.04. its connected through a router to a windows workgroup network.    when tryingto browse a windows xp pro shares, it takes almost a minute to drill through
[11:24] <oskude> wesolek, and you dont have to reboot the machine
[11:24] <oskude> wesolek, just do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:24] <wesolek> ok
[11:24] <roland_> any idea why? any steps i can take to have better performance on a windows network
[11:24] <oskude> wesolek, after every change in xorg.conf
[11:24] <frank_> how have install chillispot ?
[11:25] <wesolek> I can't save the changes, oskude
[11:25] <oskude> wesolek, you forgot "sudo"
[11:25] <wesolek> nope, oskude
[11:25] <leviatan> vox754 yes, it's an integrated sound card in the motherboard is a via8237 and supports 7.1 channels but I want to know how to get it
[11:25] <vox754> frank_ what is that?
[11:25] <oskude> wesolek, huh ?
[11:25] <wesolek> without sudo it won't even let me view it :) oskude
[11:26] <oskude> wesolek, what are the permissions to that file ? (ln -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:26] <oskude> wesolek, wait
[11:26] <vox754> leviatan: what model, how old is the motherboard?
[11:26] <oskude> wesolek, what are the permissions to that file ? (ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:26] <wesolek> hold on, oskude
[11:27] <Pie-rate> How would I set up a RAID0 of 2 36gb WD raptors on an nforce4 chipset?
[11:27] <wesolek> ok done it
[11:27] <wesolek> now gdm restart, oskude
[11:27] <vox754> Pie-rate: searching info on the internet and ubuntuforums.org
[11:27] <persica> Pie-rate: you'll want to look at 'md' and 'mdadm'.
[11:27] <oskude> wesolek, you were able to edit that file ?
[11:27] <leviatan> no too old is a gigabyte ga-8vm800m-775
[11:28] <bLueTeK> Hi everyone
[11:28] <wesolek> I did
[11:28] <acu> can anyone help me with editing /etc/fstab ? I addedd two hard disks but I still cannot see them automounted when I reboot -
[11:28] <oskude> wesolek, ok... get a "no screens found" error ?
[11:29] <bLueTeK> how can i change from console these LOCALE settings? :) Thanks in advance
[11:29] <wesolek> I think it came back to my old settings now
[11:29] <persica> acu: if you added two harddisks then you can only mount partitionson those disks.  Do they have file systems on them and are you pointing to the right partition?
[11:29] <oskude> !locale
[11:29] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:30] <vox754> acu: look for the devices with "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:30] <dpomp> i added Firestarter to my startup but i dont want the window to come up, i just want it to be in the tray, how can i do this?
[11:30] <bLueTeK> thanks! allmighty wisdom bot
[11:30] <wesolek> oskude, let me check if the log file is different now.... not sure what just happened, but it was telling me that there was already an Xserver on screen 0 so I had to choose a different one
[11:30] <vox754> !thanks | bLueTeK
[11:30] <ubotu> bLueTeK: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:30] <oskude> wesolek, interesting...
[11:31] <wesolek> oksude, then it said the configuration is bad and I am back on lol
[11:31] <dsmorgan> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu, I hope someone can help: I get to Uncompressing Linux .... Ok, booting Kernal. [17179570,192000]  ACPI: Could nt use ECDT kill: Could not kill pid '3641' : No such process, then I get INIT: Id "#" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, the # is 1-6 (I see 6 messages) and then it keeps repeating the No such process error for all 6 processes every 5 minutes
[11:31] <leviatan> vox754 I got the 5.1 sound with that file, actually with this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26666/ but with that one I get 5.1 sound and I can watch videos normally but the microphone doesn't work
[11:31] <hall> i removed kvirc but when i tryed to reinstall it said it was still there and would not reinstall
[11:31] <wesolek> brb, let me check the log file
[11:31] <oskude> wesolek, roger
[11:31] <acu> persica vox754 can I paste my fstab? can you (want) to look at it ?
[11:31] <wesolek> oksude... roger?????
[11:32] <vox754> !paste | acu
[11:32] <kory> #tremulous
[11:32] <ubotu> acu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:32] <DrFrasierCrane> dpomp: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php
[11:32] <carlosbarbosachi> hello, i have been reading the ubuntu guide and wanting to configure a lamp server in ubuntu desktop, ii have seen the order sudo aptitude install lamp-server, but it doesn't wprk, those that package exists, any good and proven lamp installation method?
[11:32] <DrFrasierCrane> dpomp: use --start-hidden
[11:33] <hall> i removed kvirc but when i tryed to reinstall it said it was still there and would not reinstall
[11:33] <dpomp> thank you
[11:33] <persica> carlosbarbosachi: you coudl install the components individually.
[11:33] <vox754> leviatan: I have no clue for your problem. It must be something about "alsa" and stuff. You need to further research, you cannot expect that file to work miraculously.
[11:33] <oskude> wesolek, sorry, some bad habbit, means i heard you :)
[11:34] <acu> vox754 and persica: here is my fstab file (I am most interested in the HD40GB) to make it work - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26667/
[11:34] <persica> carlosbarbosachi: apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[11:34] <vox754> leviatan: forget about that file, and first open alsa (the speaker) and see if you cant activate 5.1 from there.
[11:34] <wesolek> lol oskude... I checked and there wasn't an error at the end of it :(
[11:34] <oskude> wesolek, http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mroger.htm
[11:34] <hall> i removed kvirc but when i tryed to reinstall it said it was still there and would not reinstall
[11:35] <hall> how do i fix that
[11:35] <oskude> wesolek, and xorg ist running ?
[11:35] <leviatan> vox754 no I can't activate 5.1, just with that file :(
[11:35] <wesolek> oh no... I see something else... is it in the file name Xorg.0.log    0- screen number? oskude?
[11:35] <oskude> wesolek, btw. did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" as theres a difference
[11:35] <carlosbarbosachi> is there any preconfigured package for ubuntu that will take care of all the modules and things involved in lamp installation
[11:36] <persica> acu: you don't need the umask on the 40.  You could try it with just defaults.  Do a manual mount: mount /dev/hdc1 /media/HD40
[11:36] <vox754> acu: I'm not even running Linux right now, but I think umask=0222   you are missing a digit
[11:36] <wesolek> I just copied what you put in here, oskude
[11:36] <vox754> acu: better yet, first post the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:36] <oskude> wesolek, ok, i hope it was "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"  :)
[11:36] <DrFrasierCrane> hall: try executing "sudo apt-get --reinstall install kvirc"
[11:36] <persica> vox754 it will automatically fill in the rest of the digits with 0s I believe.
[11:37] <hall> ok thanks
[11:37] <oskude> wesolek, im wondering why you got that error with the screens, it aint normal...
[11:37] <oskude> wesolek, with the screen 0 thing
[11:37] <oskude> wesolek, ah btw!
[11:37] <persica> carlosbarbosachi: not on my 6.06.  Just search for the various parts of LAMP (minus the Linux).
[11:37] <vox754> persica: are you talking about the umask or the dump and pass?
[11:37] <oskude> where are you typing all these commands ?
[11:38] <wesolek> ok I think it created an Xorg.1.log and that one is with the BF error
[11:38] <persica> vox754: umask.
[11:38] <wesolek> oskude
[11:38] <acu> vox754 and persica: here is my fdisk - l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26669/
[11:38] <oskude> wesolek, still, there only should be screen 0
[11:38] <persica> vox754: I usually only use the 3-digit form in my fstabs and I've gotten some mix ups by leaving off a digit.  It still works, just fills to the left with 0s.
[11:39] <wesolek> yeah, it didn't let me create another xserver on 0
[11:39] <wesolek> oskude
[11:39] <oskude> wesolek, go to "ctrl+alt+f1" and login in, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and then ""sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:39] <persica> acu: alright, you have your partitions wrong it looks like.
[11:39] <dsmorgan> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu, I hope someone can help: I get to Uncompressing Linux .... Ok, booting Kernal. [17179570,192000]  ACPI: Could nt use ECDT kill: Could not kill pid '3641' : No such process, then I get INIT: Id "#" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, the # is 1-6 (I see 6 messages) and then it keeps repeating the No such process error for all 6 processes every 5 minutes
[11:39] <oskude> wesolek, and tell me if you get that error with screen 0
[11:39] <vox754> acu: congratulations, you have a messed up fstab. Look closely at the device /dev/hdc  and the filesystems
[11:39] <persica> acu: you'll see /dev/hdc1 is your windows partion (NTFS)
[11:40] <persica> acu: and you'll see your largest partition on hdd is of type linux.
[11:40] <persica> acu: and you probably don't care about hdd1.
[11:40] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: this appears when you try to run livecd ?
[11:41] <dsmorgan> YES
[11:41] <DrFrasierCrane> which version? feisty?
[11:41] <acu> persica: I mounted manually the HD40GB it worked
[11:41] <dsmorgan> DrFrasierCrane: 6.06
[11:42] <acu> vox754: OK, I am going back to unmess the mess (If I know how)
[11:42] <persica> Okay, that's probably because it auto-detected your file system, while in the fstab you listed you had it as ext3 while it's NTFS.
[11:42] <vox754> acu: no problem, ask persica, he is typing fast today
[11:42] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18785
[11:42] <persica> acu: you can run just 'mount' to see all the partitions that are mounted and what file systems they are.
[11:42] <persica> vox754: It's a slow day at work. :(
[11:43] <MukiEX> Is there a guide for the "aww crap I reinstalled Windows and it foobared my linux" problem?
[11:43] <oskude> !mbr
[11:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:43] <MukiEX> thank you, oskude :3
[11:44] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261883
[11:44] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: you may want to try some of the suggestions from these threads
[11:44] <oskude> MukiEX, youre welcome :)
[11:44] <acu> persica: it shows the HD40GB is ext3  - and now since I mounted manually it worked - I wonder what do I need to change in fstab to automatically mount it when reboot
[11:44] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: "i found the solution after running into this same problem. You have to set the macs clock to the correct time. I had this issue when the ppc thought it was some time n day in 1970."
[11:45] <greg_g> here is a general ubuntu (maybe any linux distro) question: why if there is a newer version of an application (take XChat for example) is it not available in the repository.  See this bug for reference: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/121598
[11:45] <DrFrasierCrane> so check your clock :)
[11:45] <greg_g> s/XChat/liferea
[11:45] <dsmorgan> DrFraiserCrane: Im trying safe graphics mode, but if that fails I'll check my clock
[11:45] <miramana> hello. i used to 'su - <username>'  and run, say, firefox as another user. but in ubuntu i can not do it anymore. how can i enable it?
[11:45] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: ok
[11:45] <persica> acu: that's hdc1 that's mounted as the 40G?
[11:46] <vox754> acu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26671/   if you want to write to this partition, you will need ntfs-3g
[11:46] <oskude> wesolek, btw. are you in this chat with the same pc that has these x problems ?
[11:46] <ipx> How can I convert a debian .deb to feisty?
[11:47] <wesolek> ok oskude, I had to reboot but it loaded with the changed vesa to ati and it produced the same FB error, yes I am in here on the same machine that's got the problem :)
[11:47] <persica> ipx: .debs are what feisty uses.  feisty just officially includes specific versions of those packages.
[11:47] <persica> ipx: try 'sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>'
[11:47] <oskude> wesolek, oh... then this could get hard and time consuming...
[11:47] <DrFrasierCrane> apx: or try 'sudo gdebi package.deb'
[11:47] <leviatan> someone knows how I can get 5.1 sound with my via8237 audio card? someone could help me please?
[11:47] <DrFrasierCrane> *ipx, sorry..
[11:47] <vox754> acu: my advice is to go with the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:48] <wesolek> I've got another laptop with windows on it... can I access this chat somehow?
[11:48] <wesolek> oskude
[11:48] <vox754> !ntfs-3g > acu
[11:48] <ipx> persica: ive been looking for a feisty version of bmpx, and cant find any. When I tried to compile by source, it wanted boostlib to be installed but cant seem to install that one either. :/
[11:48] <acu> persica: yes, is the HD40GB which I want to mount
[11:48] <wesolek> oskude, do you think we can sort it out tonight?
[11:48] <oskude> wesolek, yes, just get a free IRC program for windows and login here
[11:48] <wesolek> not sure what time is at yours, oskude
[11:49] <oskude> wesolek, 23:48, but my 2 weeks vacation started today :)
[11:49] <ipx> persica: got ALOT of dependency-problems while trying to use that .deb-file written for debian
[11:49] <persica> acu: seems strange that it's mounting as ext3 when your fdisk says it's NTFS.  I'd go with vox on this one.
[11:49] <dsmorgan> DrFraiserCrane: Looks like Safe Graphics Mode worked
[11:49] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: great.. it's in text mode isn't it ?
[11:49] <wesolek> oh :) wonderful :) will you be willing to spend some time on this then? oskude
[11:49] <dsmorgan> DrFrasierCrane: No i'm seeing a kernal right now, installing now
[11:49] <oskude> wesolek, and while youre at it, you could install "putty" on windows too
[11:50] <acu> vox754: the output for fdisk -l is not acurate their it shows NTFS/NFS - the hard disk is formated ast ext3 and in Disk Manager it shows like Extended 3
[11:50] <oskude> wesolek, sure, im confident that we can solve this :)
[11:50] <persica> ipx: hrm.  I'm not familiar with bmpx, or where you got the deb.
[11:50] <ipx> persica: seems that alot of versions was too old for it, but my feisty system is up-to-date
[11:50] <ipx> persica: allright
[11:50] <jk2> evening all
[11:50] <wesolek> I've got putty, I use linux and unix at work and that's how I connect
[11:50] <DrFrasierCrane> dsmorgan: ok, good luck then :)
[11:50] <ipx> Anyone: Is there a .deb-package for feisty for BMPx?
[11:50] <oskude> also install ssh on the linux box
[11:50] <oskude> wesolek, sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:50] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: beep media player ?
[11:50] <vox754> acu: I demand a picture.
[11:51] <wesolek> here?
[11:51] <PIPBoy_> does anyone have a summary they could explain to me on how WINE works with windows programs?
[11:51] <persica> ipx: what's the difference between bmpx and bmp?
[11:51] <elfranger> how can I add a locale to my server?
[11:51] <acu> persica and vox: both the 40GB and 160GB were formated with NTFS before - however I reformated them as ext3
[11:51] <dsmorgan> DrFraiserCrane: thanls
[11:51] <acu> vox754: can I paste a picture ?
[11:51] <elfranger> currently, when I do locale -a I get C, en_US.utf8 and POSIX
[11:51] <PIPBoy_> does anyone have a summary they could explain to me on how WINE works with windows programs? please pm me if so
[11:51] <elfranger> I need to add some NO locale
[11:52] <oskude> wesolek, you could install ssh on the linux box, so want remote access from windows (so you can copy and paste and such from windows=)
[11:52] <DrFrasierCrane> pipboy: enter #ubuntu-frasier :)
[11:52] <ipx> DrFrasierCrane: yes, beep-media-player X
[11:52] <acu> vox: how to take a screen picture ?
[11:52] <vox754> acu: go to imageshack.us  something like that.  Do you have info in those partitions? What did you use to partition?
[11:52] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: well, i see it in synaptic
[11:52] <jrib> acu: press Print Screen
[11:52] <cki> :D
[11:52] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: maybe you should enable some repositories on your system
[11:52] <persica> ipx: what's wrong with the beep-media-player package in the repos?
[11:52] <wesolek> I know what the ssh protocol is useful for, oskude... just... nevermind, it's installed lol
[11:52] <ipx> persica: bmpx is the new version of it, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bmpx/bmpx_0.36.1-3_i386.deb
[11:53] <vox754> !screenshot > acu
[11:53] <ipx> persica: i want the new version, of course
[11:53] <oskude> wesolek, very good :)
[11:53] <persica> ipx: ah.  hrm.  they you may have a lot of dependencies to resolve.
[11:53] <cki> or if u want mor eoptions go to Applications Accessoaries Take screen shot :)
[11:53] <cki> there is an times :)
[11:53] <ipx> persica: its totally rewritten with new functions and i can use a plugin to show what song im listening on in xchat
[11:53] <cki> timer***
[11:53] <oskude> wesolek, this was the first hit in google for "windows open source irc client" http://www.hydrairc.com/
[11:53] <wesolek> oskude, can I grab me dinner? will you still be here? and I also get my other laptop here
[11:53] <DrFrasierCrane> oskude: it's not open source btw
[11:53] <frank_> u know the chillispot
[11:54] <cki> sooo cya guys im goin to deal with the Bed bugs.. like mc44 says ... :) (with a big hammer )
[11:54] <DrFrasierCrane> oskude: http://hydrairc.com/index.php?page=developers
[11:54] <DrFrasierCrane> "HydraIRC limited-use source license"
[11:54] <oskude> wesolek, how long ? so i can go calm my gf down :)
[11:54] <DrFrasierCrane> they're lame
[11:54] <oipat> kerlen: [ 5485.059666]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. - What does this mean?
[11:54] <zpertee> does anyone know of any syslog gui tools?
[11:54] <oskude> Dragnslcr, OMG thats interesting ! thanks for the warning :)
[11:54] <wesolek> yes, do that, please... 30mins?
[11:54] <cki> Hammer timee cya
[11:54] <vox754> frank_ I'm pretty confident you can find a channel for your native language. Also what is that?
[11:55] <oskude> DrFrasierCrane, you know a good oss irc client for windows ? (or even freeware)
[11:55] <DrFrasierCrane> quote "To recap: It's my code, my hard work and I'll do what I want with it.      ;)" is pretty far from open source
[11:55] <DrFrasierCrane> oskude: not really, i just used mirc when i was on windows
[11:55] <oskude> DrFrasierCrane, i wonder why google says "HydraIRC is an open-source IRC client with an attractive and easy to use.." for it
[11:55] <DrFrasierCrane> but i'm not that frequent irc user
[11:55] <BlainN> oskude -- Chatzilla under Firefox
[11:56] <ipx> persica, DrFrasierCrane: Do you think i can add edgy repos into a feisty machine and test?
[11:56] <oskude> BlainN, ah, i forgot that one :)
[11:56] <DrFrasierCrane> oskude: well "open source" seems to be a nice buzz-word these days
[11:56] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: it's in the feisty repos
[11:56] <BlainN> It's what I'm using right now.
[11:56] <vox754> oskude: you can also use "gaim", now "pidgin"
[11:56] <ipx> DrFrasierCrane: bmp is, but not bmpx
[11:56] <oskude> DrFrasierCrane, we should copyright the word "open source" :P
[11:56] <persica> ipx: yeah, you could, but if it's not in feisty it won't be in edgy, will it?
[11:57] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: yes, bmpx is there too
[11:57] <oskude> vox754, roger
[11:57] <persica> oskude: sadly you can only trademark it, which I think the OSI has done.
[11:57] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: go to settings > repositories
[11:57] <ipx> persica: its not in edgys repos, its third party repos
[11:57] <kazol> Does anyone here use TrueCrypt?
[11:57] <acu> vox754: and persica here is one of the screenshot: http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotae1.png
[11:57] <ipx> persica: made for edgy
[11:57] <ipx> DrFrasierCrane: :o
[11:57] <DrFrasierCrane> ipx: and enable all of them
[11:57] <wesolek> is 30mins ok, oskude? will that calm your gf down lol?
[11:57] <soyporti> hello guys i have a question, does anyone knows a good tuto to have install a sound card via 8237???
[11:57] <oskude> wesolek, ok 30min is ok, cu later!
[11:57] <wesolek> see ya
[11:57] <whileimhere> Hi I am using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop with wireless. When I have tried to update via the CD version of 7.04 the wireless breaks on the 7.04 but works with 6.10 anyone know why?
[11:58] <vox754> soyporti: it includes support in the standard kernel. Maybe you have a very new motherboard.
[11:58] <Ahorner> quick question. whats the one program that has the ati and nvidia drivers on it?
[11:58] <Ahorner> i cant seem to remember it
[11:58] <kazol> How do I install TrueCrypt?
[11:58] <DrFrasierCrane> ahnorner: Envy
[11:58] <persica> acu: so if you unmount it, will the following command mount it? mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /media/HD40GB
[11:58] <Warbo> Ahorner: envy
[11:58] <Ahorner> ahh thanks
[11:59] <Ahorner> warbo: sudo apt-get install envy?
[11:59] <linnuxxy> I have problem installing webmin on feisty... i got this error when i try to apt install webmin ........... Package webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:59] <Ahorner> ?ency
[11:59] <Ahorner> ?envy
[11:59] <Warbo> Ahorner: Nope, you will need to get it from the WWW
[11:59] <DrFrasierCrane> ahorner: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.5-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[11:59] <DrFrasierCrane> get it from here
[11:59] <acu> persica: I mounted before without -t ext3 - should I unmount first ?
[11:59] <Ahorner> thanks
[11:59] <Warbo> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:59] <enviouz> anybody else have probs switching users i fiesty with the ati restricted drivers?
[11:59] <Ahorner> lol
[11:59] <DrFrasierCrane> :P
[11:59] <Warbo> heh, beaten to it
 : I'm really new at this could you please be more clear cause i dont get it?
[12:00] <Ahorner> im puttin ubuntu fiesty on a 4 gig hd lamo
[12:00] <crdlb> Ahorner, don't use envy
[12:00] <Ahorner> y
[12:00] <rbs-tito> enviouz: Yes, it is a known bug
[12:00] <ipx> DrFrasierCrane: I found it now, thanks alot. I'd removed the universe repos for some reason :)
[12:00] <persica> acu: I just want to test that it works with an ext3 as an explicit mount.  If it does then it should work with a line of '/dev/hdc1   /media/HD40GB   ext3  defaults  0  0'
[12:00] <Ahorner> its always worked for me before
[12:00] <kazol> Anyone here use TrueCrypt??
[12:00] <gRaCiOsO> how could i put my dynamic dns in my lamp server it works with ssh and ftp but to my lamp server only with ip public not with the dns ?
[12:00] <crdlb> Ahorner, system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[12:00] <DrFrasierCrane> crdlb: why not? i used it yesterday to install new fglrx driver
[12:00] <sluimers> Can someone help me? I can't seem to ping a windows computer on a tiny lan
[12:00] <jontec> I need help installing realplayer. I've installed the .bin file, but realplayer won't open. (amd64 + feisty) (no saying that there is an alternative: there isn't. .rmvb files don't play in alts.)
[12:00] <DrFrasierCrane> no problems
[12:00] <DrFrasierCrane> restricted drivers manager contains old version
[12:00] <crdlb> DrFrasierCrane, because when it breaks, its damage *cannot* be undone
[12:00] <enviouz> rbs-tito:  anyway to fix it or any work around?
[12:00] <vox754> soyporti: well, describe your hardware. PC or Laptop? Integrated card or PCI? Model and age of motherboard.
[12:00] <Warbo> jontec: That binary is 32bit
[12:01] <Ahorner> DrFrasierCrane: can u send me that link again in about 10 mins?
[12:01] <sluimers> One windows computer and one Ubuntu