| Keybuk | http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main/revision/scott%40netsplit.com-20070620222502-rqg8aiw9kzt3h8t7?start_revid=scott%40netsplit.com-20070620222502-rqg8aiw9kzt3h8t7 | 12:26 |
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| Keybuk | ^ event expression trees have landed | 12:26 |
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| Keybuk | heh | 04:26 |
| Keybuk | I had planned, this morning, to get rid of job->cause entirely | 04:26 |
| Keybuk | and so far I've been distracted by shiny new compiz-fusion features | 04:26 |
| ion_ | I upgraded from beryl to compiz+compcomm recently. | 04:46 |
| ion_ | Theres an interesting bug, which i havent got around to investigating yet. | 04:47 |
| thom | Keybuk: honestly, i'm shocked. :P | 04:47 |
| ion_ | When i switch from a desktop to another using any largedesktop plugin, it seems to work fine, unless im switching from/to a desktop with Firefox as the active window. When that is the case, the movement is really jerky. | 04:48 |
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| AlexExtreme | that's why i don't use compiz/beryl/whatever :) | 05:04 |
| AlexExtreme | when you're trying to do something, it's just too easy to get distracted with bouncing windows | 05:04 |
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| AlexExtreme | sorry for the disconnects, my IRC bouncer is acting up | 05:22 |
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| Keybuk | heh, silly things | 05:25 |
| AlexExtreme | there, that was the last one | 05:27 |
| Keybuk | which bouncer do you use? | 05:27 |
| AlexExtreme | bip | 05:28 |
| AlexExtreme | http://bip.berlios.de | 05:28 |
| ion_ | alex: Whether the windows bounce depends on your configuration. :-) | 05:28 |
| AlexExtreme | ion_: of course ;) | 05:28 |
| ion_ | The nicest thing is that when switching to another desktop, the windows dont need to be repainted. That makes it a lot faster on this 500 MHz machine. | 05:29 |
| ion_ | *Even* when using a transition effect. | 05:30 |
| AlexExtreme | yep | 05:30 |
| AlexExtreme | I first tried compiz on a 700Mhz box when it was first released, it was quite fast | 05:30 |
| Keybuk | CPU speed shouldn't affect compiz | 05:32 |
| Keybuk | that's kinda the point <g> | 05:33 |
| Keybuk | fancy effects aside, the entire point is to offload all the boring screen management to the GPU | 05:33 |
| Keybuk | so more CPU resource is free | 05:33 |
| ion_ | Indeed. | 05:34 |
| ion_ | I meant that even showing the transition effect takes less time than having one of the bit more bloated programs repaint its window on this box. | 05:35 |
| Keybuk | true | 05:37 |
| Keybuk | in fact, in theory, the transition is free | 05:38 |
| ion_ | Yeah. | 05:38 |
| Keybuk | because it's done using spare GPU capacity, rather than taxing the CPU | 05:38 |
| === Keybuk lols at a test case | ||
| Keybuk | I do use some funny metasyntactic names | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | clearly for this test, I really wanted a name I wasn't likely to accidentally use later | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | so instead of foo, bar, baz | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | or frodo or bilbo | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | or wibble, wobble, waggle, wiggle, etc. | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | I used ... | 05:39 |
| Keybuk | biscuit | 05:39 |
| ion_ | Hehe | 05:39 |
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| Keybuk | there's one thing about specs that always bites | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | you always forget something, and have to retcon it when you write the code | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | e.g. the spec for replacing cause with event expressions | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | I had completely forgotten that a job is allowed to abort the stop in pre-stop | 07:18 |
| ion_ | Looking up retcon from dictionary.com just spoiled a TV show. :-) | 07:20 |
| ion_ | Not that id want to watch the show in question. | 07:20 |
| AlexExtreme | :) | 07:21 |
| Keybuk | retcon. v. to pretend the spec always said that ;) | 07:22 |
| ion_ | :-) | 07:22 |
| AlexExtreme | :) | 07:22 |
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| === Keybuk frowns at post-stop -> starting | ||
| Keybuk | there's another state transition I forgot | 07:29 |
| === AlexExtreme frowns at this stupid country's weather | ||
| AlexExtreme | why is it that every time i need to go somewhere it starts raining? | 07:38 |
| Keybuk | the weather here has marginally improved over the last few days | 07:38 |
| AlexExtreme | yeah, *marginally*, i.e. not raining constantly, just showers every 20 minutes ;) | 07:39 |
| Keybuk | EGBB 211720Z 16010KT 9999 -SHRA FEW020CB SCT030 16/13 Q1007 | 07:39 |
| Keybuk | tomorrow's TAF is pretty mad | 07:41 |
| Keybuk | EGBB 211624Z 220024 17010KT 9999 SCT025 BECMG 0205 11005KT PROB40 TEMPO 0210 7000 -RA BKN008 PROB30 TEMPO 1022 7000 SHRA BKN020CB PROB30 TEMPO 1120 3000 +TSRA BKN014CB BECMG 2124 4000 BR | 07:41 |
| AlexExtreme | what's that from? | 07:41 |
| Keybuk | metoffice aviation forecast | 07:41 |
| Keybuk | EGBB = Birmingham International Airport | 07:41 |
| AlexExtreme | ah | 07:41 |
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| AlexExtreme | you're near birmingham? | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | 40% probability of light rain in the morning, | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | 30% probability of showers in the afternoon | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | and 30% probability of heavy thunderstorms in afternoon | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | in Birmingham yeah | 07:42 |
| AlexExtreme | cool, not too far from here | 07:43 |
| Keybuk | that somewhat explains why we've been experiencing equally dire weather ;) | 07:43 |
| AlexExtreme | :) | 07:43 |
| Keybuk | http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main/revision/scott%40netsplit.com-20070621173820-45cqbuufjbcft1sn?start_revid=scott%40netsplit.com-20070621173820-45cqbuufjbcft1sn | 07:45 |
| Keybuk | ^ \o/ | 07:45 |
| Keybuk | actually, the current METAR isn't bad at all; perfectly flyable in fact | 07:47 |
| AlexExtreme | :) | 07:48 |
| Keybuk | * If a job fails to reach its goal, all appropriate blocked events are marked as failed. Nodes with a FALSE value, and children of those nodes, are not considered since they have not caused the job to fail. | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | Urgh | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | I haven't worked out how to implement *that* yet | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | deciding which events in the expression tree to mark as failed | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | it's supposed to be "those that contributed to it starting in the first place" | 07:50 |
| AlexExtreme | Keybuk: would you mind greatly if I copied the nih linked list code to my project? i'd rather not link against libnih since i'm trying to keep the dependencies on this lib i'm writing to only libc | 07:52 |
| AlexExtreme | of course i'd add credits in the header (it's GPL, btw) | 07:52 |
| Keybuk | not at all | 07:52 |
| AlexExtreme | thanks | 07:52 |
| Keybuk | though you'd need nih_alloc as well, unless you modify it | 07:52 |
| AlexExtreme | k | 07:53 |
| Keybuk | (modify is easy enough, it's just nih_list_new, nih_list_entry_new, nih_list_destructor and nih_list_free) | 07:53 |
| AlexExtreme | yep | 07:54 |
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| Keybuk | why do I only ever discover problems half way through an implementation? | 09:27 |
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| Keybuk | today's problem: | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | instance | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | from tty-added | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | until tty-removed $TTY | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | respawn | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | exec /sbin/getty $TTY 38400 | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | nice and simple | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | what happens if | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | a) the same tty gets added | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | b) the tty gets removed, and another tty is added while the job is stopping | 09:40 |
| wasabi | I vote for proper lock/abort files. :0 | 10:22 |
| wasabi | The instance gets spawned twice, but some nice chap tests to see if the instance is already spawned. | 10:22 |
| Keybuk | wouldn't it be nice if upstart took care of this for you? :p | 10:24 |
| wasabi | I don't really think so. | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | why not? | 10:25 |
| wasabi | got me. | 10:25 |
| wasabi | instance could be "unique per parameters" | 10:26 |
| Keybuk | yeah, which is interesting | 10:28 |
| Keybuk | but then do you restart the instance, or do you wait to create a new instance? :P | 10:28 |
| wasabi | Well, what happens if a start evnet happens twice in any non-instanced job | 10:29 |
| wasabi | Basically nothing. | 10:29 |
| Keybuk | indeed | 10:35 |
| Keybuk | need to think on this a bit | 10:35 |
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| Keybuk | EGBB 212020Z 15006KT CAVOK 14/11 Q1008 | 10:48 |
| Keybuk | CAVOK! | 10:48 |
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| Keybuk | *cries* | 10:48 |
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