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Jester45look at this http://www.plastk.net/highres/50mon/12:25
Jester45thats insane... you would have to be a few feet away to see it all12:25
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shramanadhello. how to make xubuntu see /home on LVM?12:32
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Jester45!LVM12:37
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:37
shramanadubotu: thanks! one more question: how to setup ADSL for the modem in the bridged mode?12:39
Jester45ubotu, is a bot not a person12:39
shramanadoh, i see12:40
Jester45!DSL12:40
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE12:40
oslohi, actually on kde i wanna now if xfcedoes real transparency ?12:40
Jester45ummm12:40
Jester45it does transparency12:40
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Jester45im not sure how12:41
osloJester45> real one or only show your desktop wallpaper ?12:42
oslodoes it show the other frame one under an other? it's real transparency12:43
Jester45real12:43
PumpernickelIt does real transparency; xfwm is a compositing manager.12:43
osloscuse my english but i'v not find a french channel about xubuntu12:44
Jester45you mean... where you can see windows though the transparency12:44
osloPumpernickel> ok thks12:44
osloJester45> yes i meant12:44
osloby the way i'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool )12:48
oslo(( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))12:49
Jester45oslo, does the sync tool work on wine?  you might want to check that first12:49
osloJester45> yes he does12:50
oslo*it12:50
osloJester45> bt first i need to obtain my smartphone in ifconfig .... :D12:50
oslobut12:50
osloon XP with VirtualBox it's quite simple, teh drivers are automaticaly installed; on linux it's becoming a headach for me :S12:51
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servaas-xubuntu-hoi01:18
servaas-xubuntu-hyper_ch: hi did kilonux came back for help with getting up his internet connection trough eternet/router ?01:20
gonzaloaf_workhi, how do I set a image viewer as the default one?01:31
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cheeseboyhow i play videos that use divx ??01:57
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TheSheep!video | cheeseboy01:58
ubotucheeseboy: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications01:58
j1mcTheSheep: I don't think that Xubuntu installs multimedia codecs like Ubuntu does.01:59
TheSheepgonzaloaf_work: right-click on an image, select properties, click 'open with' and select your favorite program01:59
TheSheepj1mc: that's why there are also the two other links01:59
j1mchehe... sorry, i missed, those.02:00
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domenicdoes anyone know a good psp homebrew channel?02:04
j1mcpsp homebrew?02:07
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gonzaloaf_workTheSheep, if I want to set this setting widely for all user?02:12
gonzaloaf_workusers*02:12
TheSheepgonzaloaf_work: it's computed based on the files in /usr/share/applications02:16
TheSheepgonzaloaf_work: these files have, among other things, information about mime types of files supported by the applications02:16
TheSheepgonzaloaf_work: but I don't know how the priority is decided02:16
TheSheepgonzaloaf_work: the standard says that the priority is handled somewhere else: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s07.html02:20
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Jester45does anyone know how i can look at my hardrives temp? it workes under windows with HD tune02:41
Jester45but hdparm doesnt show its a western digital02:41
j1mcJester45: do you have the hdtemp package installed?02:45
j1mcsorry, hddtemp02:45
j1mcsudo hddtemp /dev/sda02:47
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cheeseboycan anyone help me i need to set a key to be another key03:00
cheeseboy?03:00
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j1mccheeseboy: have you looked at the keyboard layout application?03:05
j1mcsorry, the keyboard setting application?03:05
cheeseboywhats it called?03:05
j1mcapplications > settings > keyboard settings03:06
cheeseboyi dont think i have it installed03:06
cheeseboynope it isnt03:06
j1mchmmm and you're running xubuntu?  which version?03:06
cheeseboyfiesty03:06
cheeseboybut i installed from scratch03:07
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j1mccheeseboy: you installed from a command-line system?03:07
cheeseboyyes03:08
cheeseboyi didnt have a good disc03:08
j1mcyou would need to install the xubuntu-system-tools package03:09
j1mcsudo apt-get install xubuntu-system-tools03:09
cheeseboythats already install03:09
j1mcwhat about xubuntu-default-settings ?03:10
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j1mcbbiab03:12
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^rike^hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on an old machine and the installation hangs when detecting hardware; the screen shows "killed" in a loop03:14
^rike^sorry, xubuntu03:14
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cheeseboythats installed too03:16
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lightrushHello04:02
lightrushMy Xserver begins lagging after 1-2 days of use of my system04:02
lightrushit starts taking about 20% of my CPU04:02
lightrushand any switch between resolution modes takes forever04:02
lightrushany ideas of fixing this issue?04:02
j1mclightrush: have you filed a bug?04:03
lightrushj1mc:  no because its the official 7.0404:04
lightrushis there any way of manually upgrading my XFCE?04:05
j1mclightrush: you can still file bugs against the 7.04 release.04:05
j1mcbugs get fixed04:05
lightrush:)04:05
j1mcit's just that new features / apps don't get added (or they aren't supported, really)04:05
cheeseboyhelp????????04:07
j1mc!ask04:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:09
cheeseboyi have asked04:11
cheeseboymy period key doesnt work how i set o a different key?04:12
cheeseboyto*04:12
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Ghostviruswow, pretty dead in here04:33
somerville32Thats because Xubuntu is so stable :P04:33
Ghostvirusyeah i'm experiencing some problems04:33
somerville32Which explain why we're talking, haha04:34
somerville32;] 04:34
Ghostvirusis xubuntu the red-headed stepchild of the *buntus or what?04:34
somerville32Something like that04:34
somerville32Nah04:35
somerville32I'm just being silly.04:35
Ghostvirusheh, i first started out on Xubuntu a year ago on 6.0604:35
Ghostvirusswitched to regular Ubuntu a little later, but now i'm back with Xubuntu04:36
somerville32Our first release :)04:36
Ghostvirusoh, are you one of the devs?04:37
somerville32Everyone can be a developer :)04:37
Ghostvirusi guess you have a point there04:37
Ghostvirusfor some reason, gnome runs like crap on my laptop04:37
GhostvirusCPU constantly hits the roof04:38
Jester45because ... its gnome04:38
Ghostvirusxfce is a bit better04:38
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Ghostvirusi'm running a dell inspiron 5100, 2.4 ghz pentium 4, 768 MB RAM, 64 MB radeon 750004:39
cheeseboyno help in here04:39
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Jester45cheeseboy, what are you talking about?04:40
cheeseboyive asked question 10 times today04:40
cheeseboymy period key doesnt work how i set to a different key?04:40
Jester45xmodmap might help04:40
mindframei cant get my panel to show up properly after messing around with dual display configuration... im using my laptop without another monitor and it wont show my panel.  how do i get it back?04:40
Jester45mindframe, check the process manager to make sure its not running04:41
cheeseboyJester45, whats that?04:41
mindframeto make sure whats not running?04:41
Jester45cheeseboy, it can map your keys04:41
Jester45mindframe, the panel the process will be xfce4-panel04:41
Jester45if its runnning then you need to config the panel if not thne you will first have to start it04:42
mindframeah, its not running.  why wouldnt it have started?04:42
cheeseboyJester45, how i map my period key to right alt key?04:42
Jester45cheeseboy, check google it should know be more help than me or try man xmodmap04:43
cheeseboywhys this so complicated04:43
Ghostvirusi have a cosmetic problem at the moment: for some reason, my mouse cursors don't show up. I get the default old Apple-like mouse cursor04:44
Jester45mindframe, sometimes it just happens im not sure why, press alt+F2 then run xfce4-panel04:44
mindframeJester45,  if i saved the session while it was not running and logged out would it do that?04:44
Jester45cheeseboy, because normal keyboards dont have a broken button04:44
Jester45mindframe, yes04:44
mindframeim not fond of xfce's session saving feature04:44
Jester45mindframe, you can turn it off04:45
cheeseboyJester45, i dont understand anything in the manual04:45
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Jester45cheeseboy, then try google, i only know how to use it to map unused keys04:45
cheeseboyive looked04:46
cheeseboyq04:46
mindframegot it, thanks Jester4504:46
mindframei guess its enabled by default and it saved some ancient session04:46
Jester45mindframe, menu -> settings -> session and startup -> uncheck automatically save session on logout04:46
cheeseboyall i find is app settings keybord but its not there04:47
Ghostvirusso uh, anyone now why my chosen mouse theme won't show up?04:47
kalikiana_Ghostvirus, known, common issue. Tried to restart/ reboot?04:47
Jester45Ghostvirus, maybe a broken theme? or in compatible one04:47
Ghostvirusthe themes themselves are fine. doesn't matter what theme i choose. i've tried restarting xfce, rebooting, etc. nothing works04:48
Jester45mindframe, you can have the session chooser and make diffrent sessions. like a beryl one or non beryl one or somthing else04:49
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Jester45Ghostvirus, so it does this on the default session04:49
Ghostvirusthe same themes worked fine on gnome, and on xfce, but suddenly stopped working the other day04:49
GhostvirusJester45, yes04:49
Jester45Ghostvirus, so they dont show... but you can click on things04:50
Ghostvirusoh, i can see the cursors just fine, they simply appear as the default X11 cursors (i think). they look a lot like the old mac mouse cursors04:51
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Ghostvirusheh, well i haven't used a mac since like os 8 or 904:52
Ghostvirusi'm pretty sure they're the default x11 cursors04:53
Jester45i dont know what to tell you04:53
Ghostvirusit's very strange :/04:54
Jester45maybe search for a bug04:54
Ghostvirushm, my Xcursor.xrdb file says the cursor theme is selected04:57
Ghostvirusbugs bugs bugs...04:58
Ghostvirushere's the kicker: when i hover over my firefox window, the correct cursor theme shows up05:00
Jester45ooo05:01
Jester45waht version are you running05:02
Jester45of xubuntu05:02
Ghostvirus7.0405:02
Ghostvirusoh ho, seems i'm not the only one who's run into this bug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42056305:02
Ghostvirusa shame no one responded to the guy :/05:03
Jester45try reporting a bug05:04
Jester45im not sure what you would put it under05:04
Ghostvirushmm05:06
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Ghostvirusyeah i'm skulking around launchpad right now05:07
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Ghostvirusi really want to work out a usable desktop under xubuntu because gnome just runs like a dog on my laptop05:07
gnealeI'm liking xubuntu alot at this time05:08
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somerville32:)05:14
Ghostviruswell i filed a bug report05:16
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Ghostvirusfirst time i've ever done that05:17
somerville32:)05:18
somerville32You might want to join the xubuntu-users team if you'd like05:18
Ghostviruswhat's that?05:19
somerville32Ghostvirus: A launchpad team05:25
Ghostvirusah i see05:26
Ghostvirusso has anyone used any other xfce-based distros?05:26
Ghostviruszenwalk looked interesting but it looks a little advanced for me05:28
somerville32I haven't, no05:28
somerville32But I imagine I will in my attempt to improve Xubuntu05:28
Ghostvirusyeah, zenwalk seems like the only big xfce-based distro05:29
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Ghostvirusbut it's slackware-based, and i'm way too much of a noob for that05:29
Ghostvirusthen there's dreamlinux, but that has that horrible wannabe-os x vibe to it05:31
Ghostvirushuh, #xfce is dead too05:34
somerville32lol05:38
somerville32It is bedtime! : P05:38
Jester45debian gentoo both have xfce05:39
Ghostvirusbah! it's only 11:40 PM on the east coast05:39
Jester45only 10:40 in the midwest05:39
Ghostviruswell i know you can install xfce on pretty much any distro, but i was talking about distros that use it by default05:39
Jester45somerville32, lives in the atlantic ocean05:40
Jester45:0 its 12:40 there05:40
Jester45is it just me or are there less updates than edgy?05:48
Jester45in feisty05:48
Ghostvirusyou mean xubuntu specifically?05:48
Ghostvirusto me it feels like xubuntu doesn't get the same amount of attention that ubuntu/kubuntu get when it comes to polish05:50
Jester45ubuntu has more updates because gnome gets more updates05:50
Jester45i think it gets less attention to detail/bugs05:50
Jester45because more people use ubuntu05:51
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Jester45xubuntu is looked at as a "for old machines" distro by a lot of people05:51
Ghostvirusany idea what installing xubuntu-desktop over an ubuntu installation is like?05:52
Ghostvirusi'm curious if it would perform better or worse than a regular xubuntu install05:52
Jester45its.... like having gnome and a slower xfce05:52
Jester45o and super bloated menus05:52
Ghostvirusdamn...05:53
Jester45you can remove the gnome parts if you want05:53
Jester45or.. install a server version on ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop05:53
Ghostvirusi'm really tempted to try out zenwalk but i'm too new to linux to deal with a slackware-based distro05:54
Ghostvirusubuntu's repos are top-notch too05:56
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somerville33:)05:57
Ghostvirusi just hope xubuntu starts getting more polish before each release06:00
somerville33Thats how it works :)06:01
somerville33You're welcome to help out too : )06:01
Ghostvirusyeah, i'd like to, but i've only been messing around with linux for a year06:01
somerville33No problem :)06:02
somerville33http://xubuntu.org/devel06:02
somerville33There are steps that you can take right now even to get you moving in that direction06:03
somerville33Signing up with launchpad was the first step :)06:03
Ghostvirusyeah, i suppose i'll have to look into this stuff06:04
Ghostvirusbrb06:04
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Ghostvirushad to boot back into windoze06:09
Ghostvirusi do a lot of photoshop work, so you know what that means...06:10
somerville33Gimp works great :)06:11
Ghostvirusgimp is okay, but lacks a lot of the features and user-friendliness photoshop has06:12
Ghostviruswhich isn't to say i'm a photoshop fanboy. i'm sticking with photoshop 7. i don't need any of the junk adobe's trying to push in the newest versions06:13
somerville33Talk to TheSheep when he is awake sometime06:13
somerville33He does a ton of that kind of stuff06:13
somerville33Pretty sure in Linux06:13
Jester45hummm what was his site06:15
Ghostviruswell there was this app called "Pixel" which everyone was excited about, and was really pretty nice, but the ONE guy that is coding it seems to be AWOL06:15
Jester45its was soming thing with sheep art06:15
Jester45Ghostvirus, have you tried gimpshop?06:16
Jester45it makes the gimp more like photoshop06:16
Ghostvirusi tried gimpshop, but it's really just gimp with the menus rearranged and all that06:16
Jester45yes, to be more like photoshop06:17
Jester45its a good way to transition06:17
Jester45so you can first learn the tools, then layout06:17
Ghostvirusmaybe, but photoshop has too many features that gimp doesn't have for me to switch over06:17
Ghostviruslike bundling layers, for one06:18
Ghostvirustrust me, if i could drop photoshop for something else, i would06:18
Jester45grouping them?06:18
Ghostvirusyeah, i could figure out a way to group layers06:19
Ghostvirus*couldn't06:19
Jester45im not sure if you can06:19
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Ghostviruspixel was pretty much a photoshop clone for various OSes, but development seems to have ground to a halt06:20
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Chikubuanyone use xara?06:24
Ghostvirusno, how is it?06:25
Chikubulol i was wondering the same, im downloading now, i have another faster system im still configuring to try it on06:29
Chikubuthe open source version is still .70 beta or thereabouts, was hoping for input06:30
Chikubube nice to find a good illustrator replacement06:30
Chikubuclaims to be MUCH faster06:30
Ghostvirusyeah i don't do any vector graphics work, but i've seen some amazing stuff done with inkscape06:31
Ghostvirusalright folks, bed time for me06:38
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ruksi use azureus to dl torrents and i need to burn the .bin file as an image.....i dont know how im new to linux and am using feisty fawn,gnomebaker is my burning program,when i go to tools and burn cd image,it doesnt list the .bin file as a burnable cd image,is there a way i can burn the .bin as an image?08:51
rukscan anyone help me08:56
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somerville33One second please09:04
somerville33It says it supports burning Cue/Bin files09:06
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Smygisruks, If everythin else fails, Use bchunk to convert it to a ISO file.09:37
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siimohi i have like 7 reiserfs partitions and they are all showing up on the desktop of xubuntu even though they are not mounted and i dont want them there how do i remove them?  i commented them out in fstab but they are still there11:07
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case__hello11:39
case__we're having trouble here to print utf-8 documents with mousepad, any clue how we could solve that issue?11:40
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GI_JamesHi everyone, I'm having a hard time getting my wireless card working...12:38
GI_Jamesit's supported on madwifi, it will work, but seems like I can't get it to connect12:39
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GI_Jamescan anyone around assist w/ wireless issue?12:42
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NoLimitshi03:13
NoLimitsXubuntu install Gnome ?03:13
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Jester45could anyone suggest a version of xubuntu for me to set up for someone that doesnt do much other than mail and some web browsing. i dont want to have him upgrading to a new version so i was thinking dapper, but then i tought when it does loose support its going to be really outdated so i figured he could get feisty and i could upgrade it every other version.03:37
pleia2if they're just doing mail and some web browsing, does the out-datedness of dapper matter that much?03:38
case__i would suggest the last release available (so, feisty)03:39
Jester45i guess not, but this is the first of linux he will have and i would like to show him what i like best. the auto updates and easy upgrades to the new version03:40
pleia2probably want to use feisty then03:41
case__there is a real gap in the features compared to dapper, the upgrade to a new version is a non issue thanks to apt... for anybody with less than 100 box to manage, i would suggest the last available. always.03:41
case__but if it's a first linux experience, why xubuntu?03:41
Jester45well... i need to burn a live cd and make sure hi hardware is supported. I dont feel like troubleshooting it for him03:41
case__(i'm not trolling)03:41
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Jester45case__, first, i like xubuntu and i know it. second, it was my first experience and i cant seem to use any other for a long time with out coming back to xubuntu03:43
case__from my point of view (and experience with average joe), xubuntu is fine for people who were using old school unix window manager and what to keep that kind of look and feel in a modern environnement. but for people comming from windows or mac, i will go with ubuntu, if the hardware allow it.03:45
Jester45im not to sure of his hardware, but i can guess that it will be a but sluggish on ubuntu03:45
case__that's a point.03:46
Jester45i *think* he is running winME03:46
Jester45i know it has the classic look. and its not xp03:46
case__you know that even with xubuntu you need 256MB of ram to go with the live CD installation...03:47
Jester45he wants me to try to speed it up some because its gotten slow. so i need to make some discspace and defrag it.03:47
Jester45so i thought i would ask him if he would go with linux03:48
Jester45yea... i want to test with live cd and install with alternative. (im much faster in alt than live cd)03:48
case__ok03:48
Jester45i think he has 256 or somewhere arong that03:48
Jester45i dont think it has 512 because its not that new and im pretty sure he didnt upgrade it03:49
case__but if he use winME, he may have 128 as well...03:50
Jester45i dont think it does just from using it but i will have to look03:51
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ryan__feisty has better hardware support than dapper right03:52
ryan__im Jester4503:52
ryan__lost connection03:53
case__and if i recall right, there were some uge performance improvements in gtk/pango/etc... after the dapper release, so feisty should go faster even on old hardware03:54
ryan__i have to disagree03:55
ryan__i think xubuntu was faster on dapper03:55
ryan__hehe #ubuntu has more people than #debian in it03:56
ryan__and gentoo but... thats a totaly diffrent distro03:56
case__ok, i haven't tried the dapper version of xubuntu03:56
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ruks i use azureus to dl torrents and i need to burn the .bin file as an image.....i dont know how im new to linux and am using feisty fawn,gnomebaker is my burning program,when i go to tools and burn cd image,it doesnt list the .bin file as a burnable cd image,is there a way i can burn the .bin as an image?04:12
case__ruks, open a terminal, and type : file <your .bin file> , if it says "ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem....", it's ready to be burned (you can even rename it to .iso)04:18
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ruksok ill try that04:20
case__file (try to) gives you the real type of the file, whatever the extention says04:21
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rukstype the whole file name?cuz its really long lol04:23
rukswith or without spaces?04:23
case__i think you can drag and drop the file to the terminal and it will write the full path by itself04:24
case__by the way, yes you need the full path04:25
case__or you can right click in the directerory of the file and choose "open a terminal here"04:26
ruksits not workin :(04:29
case__you're not doing it right :)04:30
rukslol sorry kinda new to all this04:30
ruksi cant drag it in there,and i cant right cick and get a terminal option04:31
case__move it to your desktop if it heps04:31
case__helps04:31
somerville32Whats up?04:31
ryan__you can use tab completion04:33
Jester45so /path/to/bin/fillealdsjfgneriugnlfgknfglafdgafg.bin you can just use tab to finish the path04:34
ruksok case ur way it says empty after i put in the file name andhit enter and put my password in04:35
ruksit says :empty after the file name04:35
ruksso whats that mean?04:39
case__why have you typed so it asked you your password???04:48
case__(this sentence means nothing :)))04:48
ruksi type sudo file then the file name04:48
case__you don't need to use sudo04:49
ruksoh04:49
case__$ file "/path/to/file withe spaces.bin"04:49
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ochosihi, i have a 120gb ext hdd from western digital, usb is also power supply. whenever i unmount and then unplug it it makes some strange stopping noise like in the current kernel bug for some laptop-hdds. anyone got an idea what this is or what to do about it?05:30
Pumpernickelhdparm -Y might make it spin down normally.05:34
ochosiok, thanks, i'll give it a shot now05:35
Pumpernickel(Or sdparm, instead, come to think of it.)05:36
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ochosihdparm doesn't seem to work05:39
ochosiseems to be restricted to ide only05:39
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mindframe-how do i cleared saved session information?05:41
mindframe-*clear05:41
teknoboihello everybody05:41
ochosi@Pumpernickel: ok, don't really understand the man page of sdparm, are you sure it can do the trick of putting the drive to sleep?05:44
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ochosiPumpernickel: sdparm --command eject /dev/sdb1 gives me a strange error05:46
ochosiRequest Sense cmd: 03 00 00 00 40 0005:46
ochosi    request sense: requested 64 bytes but got 18 bytes05:46
ochosi    Start stop unit command: 1b 00 00 00 02 0005:46
ochosistart stop unit:  Fixed format, current;  Sense key: Illegal Request05:46
ochosi Additional sense: Logical block address out of range05:46
ochosi  Info fld=0x0 [0] 05:46
teknoboidoes anyone have any suggestions as far as server software goes for xubuntu (ie. ftp, http, and ssi)?05:51
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Ind[y] The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!05:55
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maxamillionteknoboi: hey, how'd the wireless adventure go?06:04
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Jester45hiya maxamillion06:06
maxamillionJester45: hi hi06:07
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swhalenHello...is there any way of doing a network boot of the xubuntu installer?06:08
maxamillionswhalen: its not entirely specific to Xubuntu, its more of an ubuntu thing (which Xubuntu is technically "a ubuntu") so let me get you a link06:08
maxamillionswhalen: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html06:10
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illu45I've got a quick question. I'm thinking about putting in a new HD and installing a fresh install of xubuntu on part of it. Any recommendations for which FS to use?06:49
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illu45Hm... noone around?06:53
Merchelouse what ever06:53
Merchelozfs if available06:53
viddillu45, i use ext306:54
illu45Ah, all right...06:54
illu45One more thing, is Gutsy somewhat stable now, or is it best to stick to Feisty?06:55
viddillu45, currently (to the best of my knowledge) they are identical at this stage....06:56
viddhowever...only get gutsy if you intent to test and break it....06:57
viddif you cant test, break, and report...and NEED to be up, then go with fiesty06:58
illu45Ah, all right06:58
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illu45Thanks for the advice, will probably give Gutsy a try, I don't mind doing a bit of breaking :P06:59
teknoboihey max u still here07:04
laserbeak43hi how do i take a screenshot from xubuntu?07:09
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kalikianalaserbeak43, imagemagick, gimp, panel-plugin... which way do you prefer?07:17
laserbeak43there's a panel plugin? i have gimp installed but if a panel plugin would be easier...07:18
kalikianalaserbeak43, Yes, it's called screebshot plugin and should be preinstalled. Just try to add it.07:20
kalikianaAnd gimp is indeed to slow for screenshot if you're not editing an image ;)07:20
laserbeak43ok ok07:22
laserbeak43just installed it07:22
laserbeak43how do i use it?07:22
laserbeak43the screenshot plugin?07:22
laserbeak43ahh ice07:24
laserbeak43nice07:24
laserbeak43added it to the panel07:24
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laserbeak43kalikiana: that did it thanks :)07:29
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Kjellvizhey, i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kde desktop on top, where did all those funky screensavers i had in gnome go ?07:30
kalikianalaserbeak43, You're welcome :)07:30
Jester45Kjellviz, i think you are in the wrong channel try #kubuntu or #ubuntu07:31
Kjellvizlol i thought i had joined kubuntu ^^ sry bout that! :P07:32
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laserbeak43can i not stream .m3u files  in gxine?07:35
TheSheeplaserbeak43: I'm afraid .m3u files are just playlists07:37
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laserbeak43yeah to load stream files or watever07:37
aquohi, can you tell me where i can find the xubuntu seeds?07:38
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illu45aquo, for BT?07:40
illu45http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/ for Feisty07:40
illu45Just download the torrent file07:40
aquono, i search the garminate input.07:41
laserbeak43the what?07:41
aquoaehm germinate07:42
aquothe germinate input.07:42
aquothe seeds.07:42
laserbeak43the seeds?07:42
laserbeak43torrent seeds?07:43
laserbeak43i think the torrent client will show you the seeds07:43
laserbeak43not sure what you mean tho07:43
laserbeak43sorry07:43
aquono, the rule files you need for generating package lists for remastering the install cds07:43
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laserbeak43oh i don't know anything about that sorry :)07:44
musiqWhich program (which fits on a boot disk) should i use to format my entire hard disk, and than create partitions for ubuntu?07:44
aquohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement07:44
illu45musiq, the ubuntu LiveCD comes with gparted, which should allow you to format your disk and create partitions07:45
illu45...I think the Xubuntu LiveCD does too, but I'm not entirely certain, actually.07:46
laserbeak43i installed from the livecd07:46
illu45Does the Xubuntu liveCD have gparted as well, or does it use something else?07:47
laserbeak43aquo:  so you found it?07:47
musiqAnd does the Xubuntu alternate-cd have gparted as well? (that(s rhe one i have)07:47
aquono, thats for ubuntu07:47
laserbeak43illu45:  i don't know what it is but it's dead easy to make a dual boot with it07:47
laserbeak43even imported my xp files07:47
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aquothere must be some seeds for xubuntu too, but i am not too sure.07:48
laserbeak43aquo: i think the packages are the same, the only diff is the window manage AFAIK07:48
aquolaserbeak43: the repository is the same, but the content of the install-cds differ07:48
aquoi want to remaster ubuntu cds with my own package set.07:49
laserbeak43oh i see your point07:49
aquobut documentation is cruel07:49
laserbeak43hehe07:49
aquois there something like an xubuntu developer channel?07:50
aquo-n07:50
laserbeak43no idea07:51
kalikianaaquo, Sure, #xubuntu-devel07:51
laserbeak43cool07:52
laserbeak43so can someone tell me how come i can't stream using .m3u? i can with just about any media player in, dare i say it?(windows)07:53
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kalikianalaserbeak43, What players did you try?07:53
kalikiana^^ on linux, that is.07:53
laserbeak43just the one that's installed gxine07:53
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laserbeak43:p07:54
kalikianaTry audacious or something else which is more mature.07:54
laserbeak43oh ok cool07:54
laserbeak43kalikiana: wicked07:57
laserbeak43thanks07:57
laserbeak43winamp clone :)07:58
laserbeak43ish07:58
laserbeak43ok next question07:58
laserbeak43for 1000 points07:58
kalikianaYou can even reuse about every skin :D07:58
laserbeak43:P07:58
laserbeak43winamp skins???07:58
kalikianaYes.07:58
laserbeak43niiiiiice07:58
laserbeak43how do i get dual monitors running on an intel computer07:58
laserbeak43:P07:59
laserbeak43intel graphics cared i mean07:59
kalikianalaserbeak43, xinerama?07:59
laserbeak43dell lattitude d52007:59
TheSheep!xinerama | laserbeak4307:59
ubotulaserbeak43: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:59
kalikianaAcutally I don't have more than one lcd at home. :'/07:59
laserbeak43nice07:59
laserbeak43well i have one lcd one crt :P07:59
TheSheepkalikiana: wyse terminal connected via rs232 comes in handy ;)08:00
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kalikianaTheSheep, :P08:00
laserbeak43rs232/08:00
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kalikianalaserbeak43, If you have a crt, *your* eyes hurt. ;)08:01
TheSheeplaserbeak43: com port08:01
laserbeak43oh08:01
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laserbeak43kalikiana: actualy i like crt better than lcd08:02
laserbeak43my eyes feel like holes are being melted into them with lcd08:02
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kalikianalaserbeak43, You're possibly one of the people who don't notice frequencies that much. I think not everyone is sensible about 10Hz changes like me. :/08:03
laserbeak43i notice them sometimes08:03
laserbeak43a lot lately actualy08:03
laserbeak43but my eyes are really bad anyway08:03
kalikianaMy eyes hurt with anything < 75 Hz, 85 Hz is about okay.08:04
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Jester45the tricky part is guessing when to change grub to windows :)08:12
Jester45when the tv isnt working because windows hasnt started08:12
laserbeak43Jester45: lolol08:13
laserbeak43that must suck bigtime08:13
laserbeak43how can u read fonsts on your tv??08:13
Jester45hdtv :) not that bad at thatres08:13
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laserbeak43lol08:14
laserbeak43would you be able to see fonts on the plasma?08:14
Jester45im guessing i could see them better08:15
laserbeak43i would never be able to read a thing if i used a computer on my tv08:15
Jester45i watch videos on it08:15
Jester45and play asteroids08:15
Jester45er xoids :)08:15
laserbeak43LOL08:21
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Jester45xoids is better08:22
laserbeak43xoids?08:22
laserbeak43lol08:22
laserbeak43asteroids?08:22
laserbeak43no thanks08:22
laserbeak43:P08:22
Jester45yep08:22
laserbeak43lol08:23
Jester45its a clasic08:23
laserbeak43i'll give it that :P08:23
Jester45or if you wanna get fancy try out chromium08:23
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laserbeak43http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium08:23
laserbeak43:P08:23
Jester45i have a flash version of umm... whats the name... space invaders? where the alien sucide down08:24
Jester45and you have this little tank and just goes left or right08:24
Jester45and can hide behind 4 things in the air08:24
laserbeak43omg08:24
laserbeak43i remember playing that in like 8408:25
laserbeak43lol08:25
Jester45i have paperboy also08:25
Jester45that game strange08:25
laserbeak43lol08:25
laserbeak43yeah08:26
Jester45oo08:26
Jester45there is png08:26
Jester45pong08:27
laserbeak43classic08:27
laserbeak43i could stay awake for half of one round08:27
Jester45and my most time wasting thing tremulous08:27
laserbeak43tremulous??08:30
laserbeak43never hearda it :P08:30
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laserbeak43whats the syntax for sudo in terminal?08:45
blizzsudo get me a beer08:45
laserbeak43lol08:46
laserbeak43lol seriously08:47
laserbeak43is it sudo "password"?08:47
Jester45no its08:47
Jester45sudo "command"08:47
Jester45then it ask for the pass if needed08:47
Jester45sudo has a password timeout of 5 mins08:48
Jester45or somthing close to 5 mins08:48
laserbeak43cause i'm tyring to install something with sh and it eventualy asks me for my password but when i put it itn it's wrong for some reason08:49
Jester45are you putting in your root pass08:50
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laserbeak43Jester45: yes08:51
laserbeak43and the password works for everything else08:51
Jester45is it asking you only when you use sudo08:52
kali|claserbeak43, You *could* configure gksu to ask for a root pass. :P08:54
laserbeak43how would i do that?08:55
kali|claserbeak43, You should read the manpage of gksu or something, I don't know that by heart. ;)09:00
laserbeak43kali|c: ok thanks ;)09:02
kali|cyw09:02
laserbeak43when i type in my password in terminal, the cursor doesn't move. i think this is regular behavior but i'm not sure.09:10
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kali|claserbeak43, Yes, password inputs inside terminals are usually hidden.09:12
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laserbeak43kali|c: ahh a root password was never set so i had to create one09:25
kali|ckali|c, Yep, ubuntu tries to 'persuade' you to use sudo. *g09:26
TheSheepwhich turns out ot be a pretty good habit, most of the time09:27
laserbeak43can i install libgtk-1.2.so.0 and glibc-2.1 without it interfereing with my other installations?09:27
kali|cTheSheep, Yes, keeps you from being root too much - although there is 'su -c' as well. ;)09:28
TheSheepand sudo -s09:28
kali|c:P09:28
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kali|cAnd there is a rabbit making mochi on the moon.  ~('-')~09:29
kali|chi maxamillion :)09:29
gerrohow would I go about using the k7 kernel and nvidia-glx-new?09:30
maxamillionhello kali|c09:34
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gerrowhen I try apt-get install linux-k7 it installs the crappy nvidia drivers that don't work with my newer card so I have to install nvidia-new-glx but that removes linux-k7 because nvidia old isn't installed...09:36
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gerronvidia-glx-new I mean09:36
gerroa better idea how do I make it so apt-get doesn't even know which card I have09:37
gerroit pisses me off to no end :(09:37
Jester45remove the card :009:39
gerroi removed every kernel restricted module and graphics driver it had then did apt-get install linux-k7 nvidia-glx-new... hmm if I get a xorg crash I'm going to try forcing it to use custom compiled nvidia drivers by manually locating directories and deleting09:43
gerroand.. crash.. 7184 is older than 9755..09:45
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mikeconcepts Using Xubuntu...I'd appreciate a link to a howto for the best way to achieve  network connectivity to windows boxes on my network10:19
maxamillionmikeconcepts: what kind of network connectivity?10:25
mikeconceptsaccess shares on windows10:26
mikeconceptsfrom xubuntu10:26
maxamillionmikeconcepts: there really isn't an easy way to do it at the moment, that is something that is being worked on for the next release10:26
maxamillionmikeconcepts: if you google for "xubuntu+samba+browse" there are a few tutorials10:27
mikeconceptshave accomplished by installing smb, creating a /mnt, but after a reboot I have to establish mount again10:27
mikeconceptswould like something better10:28
mikeconceptsmaxamillion, thanks, will check them all out10:28
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maxamillionmikeconcepts: that's an easy fix though, just make a bash script to establish the mount connection and then make it run in your xfce auto-start applications list and then you won't have to bother with it anymore :)10:29
mikeconceptsmaxamillion, that it what I'll do, thanks10:29
maxamillionmikeconcepts: anytime :)10:35
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WalrusKingOracleGD.com - OracleGD.com - OracleGD.com - OracleGD.com10:49
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reaVerpointless:P11:18
TheSheepreaVer: maybe, maybe not11:19
reaVerhe got K-lined11:19
reaVerhe won't be back11:19
TheSheepah, great11:20
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TheSheepdidn't notice it :)11:20
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TheSheepreaVer: thanks11:20
reaVernp:P11:21
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