[12:25] <Jester45> look at this http://www.plastk.net/highres/50mon/
[12:25] <Jester45> thats insane... you would have to be a few feet away to see it all
[12:32] <shramanad> hello. how to make xubuntu see /home on LVM?
[12:37] <Jester45> !LVM
[12:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:39] <shramanad> ubotu: thanks! one more question: how to setup ADSL for the modem in the bridged mode?
[12:39] <Jester45> ubotu, is a bot not a person
[12:40] <shramanad> oh, i see
[12:40] <Jester45> !DSL
[12:40] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:40] <oslo> hi, actually on kde i wanna now if xfcedoes real transparency ?
[12:40] <Jester45> ummm
[12:40] <Jester45> it does transparency
[12:41] <Jester45> im not sure how
[12:42] <oslo> Jester45> real one or only show your desktop wallpaper ?
[12:43] <oslo> does it show the other frame one under an other? it's real transparency
[12:43] <Jester45> real
[12:43] <Pumpernickel> It does real transparency; xfwm is a compositing manager.
[12:44] <oslo> scuse my english but i'v not find a french channel about xubuntu
[12:44] <Jester45> you mean... where you can see windows though the transparency
[12:44] <oslo> Pumpernickel> ok thks
[12:44] <oslo> Jester45> yes i meant
[12:48] <oslo> by the way i'm looking for connecting a smartphone like a NETWORK Device. on XP it's use Belcarra LAN LINK driver, i read on linux it will be usbnet so i modprobe it but there isn't still no connection. ( it works fine on XP with VirtualBox but i would like do it directly on linux & use wine for the sync tool )
[12:49] <oslo> (( for it's working on Virtual box i don' tneed to modprobe usbnet ))
[12:49] <Jester45> oslo, does the sync tool work on wine?  you might want to check that first
[12:50] <oslo> Jester45> yes he does
[12:50] <oslo> *it
[12:50] <oslo> Jester45> bt first i need to obtain my smartphone in ifconfig .... :D
[12:50] <oslo> but
[12:51] <oslo> on XP with VirtualBox it's quite simple, teh drivers are automaticaly installed; on linux it's becoming a headach for me :S
[01:18] <servaas-xubuntu-> hoi
[01:20] <servaas-xubuntu-> hyper_ch: hi did kilonux came back for help with getting up his internet connection trough eternet/router ?
[01:31] <gonzaloaf_work> hi, how do I set a image viewer as the default one?
[01:57] <cheeseboy> how i play videos that use divx ??
[01:58] <TheSheep> !video | cheeseboy
[01:58] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:59] <j1mc> TheSheep: I don't think that Xubuntu installs multimedia codecs like Ubuntu does.
[01:59] <TheSheep> gonzaloaf_work: right-click on an image, select properties, click 'open with' and select your favorite program
[01:59] <TheSheep> j1mc: that's why there are also the two other links
[02:00] <j1mc> hehe... sorry, i missed, those.
[02:04] <domenic> does anyone know a good psp homebrew channel?
[02:07] <j1mc> psp homebrew?
[02:12] <gonzaloaf_work> TheSheep, if I want to set this setting widely for all user?
[02:12] <gonzaloaf_work> users*
[02:16] <TheSheep> gonzaloaf_work: it's computed based on the files in /usr/share/applications
[02:16] <TheSheep> gonzaloaf_work: these files have, among other things, information about mime types of files supported by the applications
[02:16] <TheSheep> gonzaloaf_work: but I don't know how the priority is decided
[02:20] <TheSheep> gonzaloaf_work: the standard says that the priority is handled somewhere else: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s07.html
[02:41] <Jester45> does anyone know how i can look at my hardrives temp? it workes under windows with HD tune
[02:41] <Jester45> but hdparm doesnt show its a western digital
[02:45] <j1mc> Jester45: do you have the hdtemp package installed?
[02:45] <j1mc> sorry, hddtemp
[02:47] <j1mc> sudo hddtemp /dev/sda
[03:00] <cheeseboy> can anyone help me i need to set a key to be another key
[03:00] <cheeseboy> ?
[03:05] <j1mc> cheeseboy: have you looked at the keyboard layout application?
[03:05] <j1mc> sorry, the keyboard setting application?
[03:05] <cheeseboy> whats it called?
[03:06] <j1mc> applications > settings > keyboard settings
[03:06] <cheeseboy> i dont think i have it installed
[03:06] <cheeseboy> nope it isnt
[03:06] <j1mc> hmmm and you're running xubuntu?  which version?
[03:06] <cheeseboy> fiesty
[03:07] <cheeseboy> but i installed from scratch
[03:07] <j1mc> cheeseboy: you installed from a command-line system?
[03:08] <cheeseboy> yes
[03:08] <cheeseboy> i didnt have a good disc
[03:09] <j1mc> you would need to install the xubuntu-system-tools package
[03:09] <j1mc> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-system-tools
[03:09] <cheeseboy> thats already install
[03:10] <j1mc> what about xubuntu-default-settings ?
[03:12] <j1mc> bbiab
[03:14] <^rike^> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on an old machine and the installation hangs when detecting hardware; the screen shows "killed" in a loop
[03:14] <^rike^> sorry, xubuntu
[03:16] <cheeseboy> thats installed too
[04:02] <lightrush> Hello
[04:02] <lightrush> My Xserver begins lagging after 1-2 days of use of my system
[04:02] <lightrush> it starts taking about 20% of my CPU
[04:02] <lightrush> and any switch between resolution modes takes forever
[04:02] <lightrush> any ideas of fixing this issue?
[04:03] <j1mc> lightrush: have you filed a bug?
[04:04] <lightrush> j1mc:  no because its the official 7.04
[04:05] <lightrush> is there any way of manually upgrading my XFCE?
[04:05] <j1mc> lightrush: you can still file bugs against the 7.04 release.
[04:05] <j1mc> bugs get fixed
[04:05] <lightrush> :)
[04:05] <j1mc> it's just that new features / apps don't get added (or they aren't supported, really)
[04:07] <cheeseboy> help????????
[04:09] <j1mc> !ask
[04:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:11] <cheeseboy> i have asked
[04:12] <cheeseboy> my period key doesnt work how i set o a different key?
[04:12] <cheeseboy> to*
[04:33] <Ghostvirus> wow, pretty dead in here
[04:33] <somerville32> Thats because Xubuntu is so stable :P
[04:33] <Ghostvirus> yeah i'm experiencing some problems
[04:34] <somerville32> Which explain why we're talking, haha
[04:34] <somerville32> ;] 
[04:34] <Ghostvirus> is xubuntu the red-headed stepchild of the *buntus or what?
[04:34] <somerville32> Something like that
[04:35] <somerville32> Nah
[04:35] <somerville32> I'm just being silly.
[04:35] <Ghostvirus> heh, i first started out on Xubuntu a year ago on 6.06
[04:36] <Ghostvirus> switched to regular Ubuntu a little later, but now i'm back with Xubuntu
[04:36] <somerville32> Our first release :)
[04:37] <Ghostvirus> oh, are you one of the devs?
[04:37] <somerville32> Everyone can be a developer :)
[04:37] <Ghostvirus> i guess you have a point there
[04:37] <Ghostvirus> for some reason, gnome runs like crap on my laptop
[04:38] <Ghostvirus> CPU constantly hits the roof
[04:38] <Jester45> because ... its gnome
[04:38] <Ghostvirus> xfce is a bit better
[04:39] <Ghostvirus> i'm running a dell inspiron 5100, 2.4 ghz pentium 4, 768 MB RAM, 64 MB radeon 7500
[04:39] <cheeseboy> no help in here
[04:40] <Jester45> cheeseboy, what are you talking about?
[04:40] <cheeseboy> ive asked question 10 times today
[04:40] <cheeseboy> my period key doesnt work how i set to a different key?
[04:40] <Jester45> xmodmap might help
[04:40] <mindframe> i cant get my panel to show up properly after messing around with dual display configuration... im using my laptop without another monitor and it wont show my panel.  how do i get it back?
[04:41] <Jester45> mindframe, check the process manager to make sure its not running
[04:41] <cheeseboy> Jester45, whats that?
[04:41] <mindframe> to make sure whats not running?
[04:41] <Jester45> cheeseboy, it can map your keys
[04:41] <Jester45> mindframe, the panel the process will be xfce4-panel
[04:42] <Jester45> if its runnning then you need to config the panel if not thne you will first have to start it
[04:42] <mindframe> ah, its not running.  why wouldnt it have started?
[04:42] <cheeseboy> Jester45, how i map my period key to right alt key?
[04:43] <Jester45> cheeseboy, check google it should know be more help than me or try man xmodmap
[04:43] <cheeseboy> whys this so complicated
[04:44] <Ghostvirus> i have a cosmetic problem at the moment: for some reason, my mouse cursors don't show up. I get the default old Apple-like mouse cursor
[04:44] <Jester45> mindframe, sometimes it just happens im not sure why, press alt+F2 then run xfce4-panel
[04:44] <mindframe> Jester45,  if i saved the session while it was not running and logged out would it do that?
[04:44] <Jester45> cheeseboy, because normal keyboards dont have a broken button
[04:44] <Jester45> mindframe, yes
[04:44] <mindframe> im not fond of xfce's session saving feature
[04:45] <Jester45> mindframe, you can turn it off
[04:45] <cheeseboy> Jester45, i dont understand anything in the manual
[04:45] <Jester45> cheeseboy, then try google, i only know how to use it to map unused keys
[04:46] <cheeseboy> ive looked
[04:46] <cheeseboy> q
[04:46] <mindframe> got it, thanks Jester45
[04:46] <mindframe> i guess its enabled by default and it saved some ancient session
[04:46] <Jester45> mindframe, menu -> settings -> session and startup -> uncheck automatically save session on logout
[04:47] <cheeseboy> all i find is app settings keybord but its not there
[04:47] <Ghostvirus> so uh, anyone now why my chosen mouse theme won't show up?
[04:47] <kalikiana_> Ghostvirus, known, common issue. Tried to restart/ reboot?
[04:47] <Jester45> Ghostvirus, maybe a broken theme? or in compatible one
[04:48] <Ghostvirus> the themes themselves are fine. doesn't matter what theme i choose. i've tried restarting xfce, rebooting, etc. nothing works
[04:49] <Jester45> mindframe, you can have the session chooser and make diffrent sessions. like a beryl one or non beryl one or somthing else
[04:49] <Jester45> Ghostvirus, so it does this on the default session
[04:49] <Ghostvirus> the same themes worked fine on gnome, and on xfce, but suddenly stopped working the other day
[04:49] <Ghostvirus> Jester45, yes
[04:50] <Jester45> Ghostvirus, so they dont show... but you can click on things
[04:51] <Ghostvirus> oh, i can see the cursors just fine, they simply appear as the default X11 cursors (i think). they look a lot like the old mac mouse cursors
[04:52] <Ghostvirus> heh, well i haven't used a mac since like os 8 or 9
[04:53] <Ghostvirus> i'm pretty sure they're the default x11 cursors
[04:53] <Jester45> i dont know what to tell you
[04:54] <Ghostvirus> it's very strange :/
[04:54] <Jester45> maybe search for a bug
[04:57] <Ghostvirus> hm, my Xcursor.xrdb file says the cursor theme is selected
[04:58] <Ghostvirus> bugs bugs bugs...
[05:00] <Ghostvirus> here's the kicker: when i hover over my firefox window, the correct cursor theme shows up
[05:01] <Jester45> ooo
[05:02] <Jester45> waht version are you running
[05:02] <Jester45> of xubuntu
[05:02] <Ghostvirus> 7.04
[05:02] <Ghostvirus> oh ho, seems i'm not the only one who's run into this bug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420563
[05:03] <Ghostvirus> a shame no one responded to the guy :/
[05:04] <Jester45> try reporting a bug
[05:04] <Jester45> im not sure what you would put it under
[05:06] <Ghostvirus> hmm
[05:07] <Ghostvirus> yeah i'm skulking around launchpad right now
[05:07] <Ghostvirus> i really want to work out a usable desktop under xubuntu because gnome just runs like a dog on my laptop
[05:08] <gneale> I'm liking xubuntu alot at this time
[05:14] <somerville32> :)
[05:16] <Ghostvirus> well i filed a bug report
[05:17] <Ghostvirus> first time i've ever done that
[05:18] <somerville32> :)
[05:18] <somerville32> You might want to join the xubuntu-users team if you'd like
[05:19] <Ghostvirus> what's that?
[05:25] <somerville32> Ghostvirus: A launchpad team
[05:26] <Ghostvirus> ah i see
[05:26] <Ghostvirus> so has anyone used any other xfce-based distros?
[05:28] <Ghostvirus> zenwalk looked interesting but it looks a little advanced for me
[05:28] <somerville32> I haven't, no
[05:28] <somerville32> But I imagine I will in my attempt to improve Xubuntu
[05:29] <Ghostvirus> yeah, zenwalk seems like the only big xfce-based distro
[05:29] <Ghostvirus> but it's slackware-based, and i'm way too much of a noob for that
[05:31] <Ghostvirus> then there's dreamlinux, but that has that horrible wannabe-os x vibe to it
[05:34] <Ghostvirus> huh, #xfce is dead too
[05:38] <somerville32> lol
[05:38] <somerville32> It is bedtime! : P
[05:39] <Jester45> debian gentoo both have xfce
[05:39] <Ghostvirus> bah! it's only 11:40 PM on the east coast
[05:39] <Jester45> only 10:40 in the midwest
[05:39] <Ghostvirus> well i know you can install xfce on pretty much any distro, but i was talking about distros that use it by default
[05:40] <Jester45> somerville32, lives in the atlantic ocean
[05:40] <Jester45> :0 its 12:40 there
[05:48] <Jester45> is it just me or are there less updates than edgy?
[05:48] <Jester45> in feisty
[05:48] <Ghostvirus> you mean xubuntu specifically?
[05:50] <Ghostvirus> to me it feels like xubuntu doesn't get the same amount of attention that ubuntu/kubuntu get when it comes to polish
[05:50] <Jester45> ubuntu has more updates because gnome gets more updates
[05:50] <Jester45> i think it gets less attention to detail/bugs
[05:51] <Jester45> because more people use ubuntu
[05:51] <Jester45> xubuntu is looked at as a "for old machines" distro by a lot of people
[05:52] <Ghostvirus> any idea what installing xubuntu-desktop over an ubuntu installation is like?
[05:52] <Ghostvirus> i'm curious if it would perform better or worse than a regular xubuntu install
[05:52] <Jester45> its.... like having gnome and a slower xfce
[05:52] <Jester45> o and super bloated menus
[05:53] <Ghostvirus> damn...
[05:53] <Jester45> you can remove the gnome parts if you want
[05:53] <Jester45> or.. install a server version on ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <Ghostvirus> i'm really tempted to try out zenwalk but i'm too new to linux to deal with a slackware-based distro
[05:56] <Ghostvirus> ubuntu's repos are top-notch too
[05:57] <somerville33> :)
[06:00] <Ghostvirus> i just hope xubuntu starts getting more polish before each release
[06:01] <somerville33> Thats how it works :)
[06:01] <somerville33> You're welcome to help out too : )
[06:01] <Ghostvirus> yeah, i'd like to, but i've only been messing around with linux for a year
[06:02] <somerville33> No problem :)
[06:02] <somerville33> http://xubuntu.org/devel
[06:03] <somerville33> There are steps that you can take right now even to get you moving in that direction
[06:03] <somerville33> Signing up with launchpad was the first step :)
[06:04] <Ghostvirus> yeah, i suppose i'll have to look into this stuff
[06:04] <Ghostvirus> brb
[06:09] <Ghostvirus> had to boot back into windoze
[06:10] <Ghostvirus> i do a lot of photoshop work, so you know what that means...
[06:11] <somerville33> Gimp works great :)
[06:12] <Ghostvirus> gimp is okay, but lacks a lot of the features and user-friendliness photoshop has
[06:13] <Ghostvirus> which isn't to say i'm a photoshop fanboy. i'm sticking with photoshop 7. i don't need any of the junk adobe's trying to push in the newest versions
[06:13] <somerville33> Talk to TheSheep when he is awake sometime
[06:13] <somerville33> He does a ton of that kind of stuff
[06:13] <somerville33> Pretty sure in Linux
[06:15] <Jester45> hummm what was his site
[06:15] <Ghostvirus> well there was this app called "Pixel" which everyone was excited about, and was really pretty nice, but the ONE guy that is coding it seems to be AWOL
[06:15] <Jester45> its was soming thing with sheep art
[06:16] <Jester45> Ghostvirus, have you tried gimpshop?
[06:16] <Jester45> it makes the gimp more like photoshop
[06:16] <Ghostvirus> i tried gimpshop, but it's really just gimp with the menus rearranged and all that
[06:17] <Jester45> yes, to be more like photoshop
[06:17] <Jester45> its a good way to transition
[06:17] <Jester45> so you can first learn the tools, then layout
[06:17] <Ghostvirus> maybe, but photoshop has too many features that gimp doesn't have for me to switch over
[06:18] <Ghostvirus> like bundling layers, for one
[06:18] <Ghostvirus> trust me, if i could drop photoshop for something else, i would
[06:18] <Jester45> grouping them?
[06:19] <Ghostvirus> yeah, i could figure out a way to group layers
[06:19] <Ghostvirus> *couldn't
[06:19] <Jester45> im not sure if you can
[06:20] <Ghostvirus> pixel was pretty much a photoshop clone for various OSes, but development seems to have ground to a halt
[06:24] <Chikubu> anyone use xara?
[06:25] <Ghostvirus> no, how is it?
[06:29] <Chikubu> lol i was wondering the same, im downloading now, i have another faster system im still configuring to try it on
[06:30] <Chikubu> the open source version is still .70 beta or thereabouts, was hoping for input
[06:30] <Chikubu> be nice to find a good illustrator replacement
[06:30] <Chikubu> claims to be MUCH faster
[06:31] <Ghostvirus> yeah i don't do any vector graphics work, but i've seen some amazing stuff done with inkscape
[06:38] <Ghostvirus> alright folks, bed time for me
[08:51] <ruks> i use azureus to dl torrents and i need to burn the .bin file as an image.....i dont know how im new to linux and am using feisty fawn,gnomebaker is my burning program,when i go to tools and burn cd image,it doesnt list the .bin file as a burnable cd image,is there a way i can burn the .bin as an image?
[08:56] <ruks> can anyone help me
[09:04] <somerville33> One second please
[09:06] <somerville33> It says it supports burning Cue/Bin files
[09:37] <Smygis> ruks, If everythin else fails, Use bchunk to convert it to a ISO file.
[11:07] <siimo> hi i have like 7 reiserfs partitions and they are all showing up on the desktop of xubuntu even though they are not mounted and i dont want them there how do i remove them?  i commented them out in fstab but they are still there
[11:39] <case__> hello
[11:40] <case__> we're having trouble here to print utf-8 documents with mousepad, any clue how we could solve that issue?
[12:38] <GI_James> Hi everyone, I'm having a hard time getting my wireless card working...
[12:39] <GI_James> it's supported on madwifi, it will work, but seems like I can't get it to connect
[12:42] <GI_James> can anyone around assist w/ wireless issue?
[03:13] <NoLimits> hi
[03:13] <NoLimits> Xubuntu install Gnome ?
[03:37] <Jester45> could anyone suggest a version of xubuntu for me to set up for someone that doesnt do much other than mail and some web browsing. i dont want to have him upgrading to a new version so i was thinking dapper, but then i tought when it does loose support its going to be really outdated so i figured he could get feisty and i could upgrade it every other version.
[03:38] <pleia2> if they're just doing mail and some web browsing, does the out-datedness of dapper matter that much?
[03:39] <case__> i would suggest the last release available (so, feisty)
[03:40] <Jester45> i guess not, but this is the first of linux he will have and i would like to show him what i like best. the auto updates and easy upgrades to the new version
[03:41] <pleia2> probably want to use feisty then
[03:41] <case__> there is a real gap in the features compared to dapper, the upgrade to a new version is a non issue thanks to apt... for anybody with less than 100 box to manage, i would suggest the last available. always.
[03:41] <case__> but if it's a first linux experience, why xubuntu?
[03:41] <Jester45> well... i need to burn a live cd and make sure hi hardware is supported. I dont feel like troubleshooting it for him
[03:41] <case__> (i'm not trolling)
[03:43] <Jester45> case__, first, i like xubuntu and i know it. second, it was my first experience and i cant seem to use any other for a long time with out coming back to xubuntu
[03:45] <case__> from my point of view (and experience with average joe), xubuntu is fine for people who were using old school unix window manager and what to keep that kind of look and feel in a modern environnement. but for people comming from windows or mac, i will go with ubuntu, if the hardware allow it.
[03:45] <Jester45> im not to sure of his hardware, but i can guess that it will be a but sluggish on ubuntu
[03:46] <case__> that's a point.
[03:46] <Jester45> i *think* he is running winME
[03:46] <Jester45> i know it has the classic look. and its not xp
[03:47] <case__> you know that even with xubuntu you need 256MB of ram to go with the live CD installation...
[03:47] <Jester45> he wants me to try to speed it up some because its gotten slow. so i need to make some discspace and defrag it.
[03:48] <Jester45> so i thought i would ask him if he would go with linux
[03:48] <Jester45> yea... i want to test with live cd and install with alternative. (im much faster in alt than live cd)
[03:48] <case__> ok
[03:48] <Jester45> i think he has 256 or somewhere arong that
[03:49] <Jester45> i dont think it has 512 because its not that new and im pretty sure he didnt upgrade it
[03:50] <case__> but if he use winME, he may have 128 as well...
[03:51] <Jester45> i dont think it does just from using it but i will have to look
[03:52] <ryan__> feisty has better hardware support than dapper right
[03:52] <ryan__> im Jester45
[03:53] <ryan__> lost connection
[03:54] <case__> and if i recall right, there were some uge performance improvements in gtk/pango/etc... after the dapper release, so feisty should go faster even on old hardware
[03:55] <ryan__> i have to disagree
[03:55] <ryan__> i think xubuntu was faster on dapper
[03:56] <ryan__> hehe #ubuntu has more people than #debian in it
[03:56] <ryan__> and gentoo but... thats a totaly diffrent distro
[03:56] <case__> ok, i haven't tried the dapper version of xubuntu
[04:12] <ruks>  i use azureus to dl torrents and i need to burn the .bin file as an image.....i dont know how im new to linux and am using feisty fawn,gnomebaker is my burning program,when i go to tools and burn cd image,it doesnt list the .bin file as a burnable cd image,is there a way i can burn the .bin as an image?
[04:18] <case__> ruks, open a terminal, and type : file <your .bin file> , if it says "ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem....", it's ready to be burned (you can even rename it to .iso)
[04:20] <ruks> ok ill try that
[04:21] <case__> file (try to) gives you the real type of the file, whatever the extention says
[04:23] <ruks> type the whole file name?cuz its really long lol
[04:23] <ruks> with or without spaces?
[04:24] <case__> i think you can drag and drop the file to the terminal and it will write the full path by itself
[04:25] <case__> by the way, yes you need the full path
[04:26] <case__> or you can right click in the directerory of the file and choose "open a terminal here"
[04:29] <ruks> its not workin :(
[04:30] <case__> you're not doing it right :)
[04:30] <ruks> lol sorry kinda new to all this
[04:31] <ruks> i cant drag it in there,and i cant right cick and get a terminal option
[04:31] <case__> move it to your desktop if it heps
[04:31] <case__> helps
[04:31] <somerville32> Whats up?
[04:33] <ryan__> you can use tab completion
[04:34] <Jester45> so /path/to/bin/fillealdsjfgneriugnlfgknfglafdgafg.bin you can just use tab to finish the path
[04:35] <ruks> ok case ur way it says empty after i put in the file name andhit enter and put my password in
[04:35] <ruks> it says :empty after the file name
[04:39] <ruks> so whats that mean?
[04:48] <case__> why have you typed so it asked you your password???
[04:48] <case__> (this sentence means nothing :)))
[04:48] <ruks> i type sudo file then the file name
[04:49] <case__> you don't need to use sudo
[04:49] <ruks> oh
[04:49] <case__> $ file "/path/to/file withe spaces.bin"
[05:30] <ochosi> hi, i have a 120gb ext hdd from western digital, usb is also power supply. whenever i unmount and then unplug it it makes some strange stopping noise like in the current kernel bug for some laptop-hdds. anyone got an idea what this is or what to do about it?
[05:34] <Pumpernickel> hdparm -Y might make it spin down normally.
[05:35] <ochosi> ok, thanks, i'll give it a shot now
[05:36] <Pumpernickel> (Or sdparm, instead, come to think of it.)
[05:39] <ochosi> hdparm doesn't seem to work
[05:39] <ochosi> seems to be restricted to ide only
[05:41] <mindframe-> how do i cleared saved session information?
[05:41] <mindframe-> *clear
[05:41] <teknoboi> hello everybody
[05:44] <ochosi> @Pumpernickel: ok, don't really understand the man page of sdparm, are you sure it can do the trick of putting the drive to sleep?
[05:46] <ochosi> Pumpernickel: sdparm --command eject /dev/sdb1 gives me a strange error
[05:46] <ochosi> Request Sense cmd: 03 00 00 00 40 00
[05:46] <ochosi>     request sense: requested 64 bytes but got 18 bytes
[05:46] <ochosi>     Start stop unit command: 1b 00 00 00 02 00
[05:46] <ochosi> start stop unit:  Fixed format, current;  Sense key: Illegal Request
[05:46] <ochosi>  Additional sense: Logical block address out of range
[05:46] <ochosi>   Info fld=0x0 [0] 
[05:51] <teknoboi> does anyone have any suggestions as far as server software goes for xubuntu (ie. ftp, http, and ssi)?
[05:55] <Ind[y] > The whole thing with the Keyring Manager is just nonsense and should immediately be removed!
[06:04] <maxamillion> teknoboi: hey, how'd the wireless adventure go?
[06:06] <Jester45> hiya maxamillion
[06:07] <maxamillion> Jester45: hi hi
[06:08] <swhalen> Hello...is there any way of doing a network boot of the xubuntu installer?
[06:08] <maxamillion> swhalen: its not entirely specific to Xubuntu, its more of an ubuntu thing (which Xubuntu is technically "a ubuntu") so let me get you a link
[06:10] <maxamillion> swhalen: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[06:49] <illu45> I've got a quick question. I'm thinking about putting in a new HD and installing a fresh install of xubuntu on part of it. Any recommendations for which FS to use?
[06:53] <illu45> Hm... noone around?
[06:53] <Merchelo> use what ever
[06:53] <Merchelo> zfs if available
[06:54] <vidd> illu45, i use ext3
[06:54] <illu45> Ah, all right...
[06:55] <illu45> One more thing, is Gutsy somewhat stable now, or is it best to stick to Feisty?
[06:56] <vidd> illu45, currently (to the best of my knowledge) they are identical at this stage....
[06:57] <vidd> however...only get gutsy if you intent to test and break it....
[06:58] <vidd> if you cant test, break, and report...and NEED to be up, then go with fiesty
[06:58] <illu45> Ah, all right
[06:59] <illu45> Thanks for the advice, will probably give Gutsy a try, I don't mind doing a bit of breaking :P
[07:04] <teknoboi> hey max u still here
[07:09] <laserbeak43> hi how do i take a screenshot from xubuntu?
[07:17] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, imagemagick, gimp, panel-plugin... which way do you prefer?
[07:18] <laserbeak43> there's a panel plugin? i have gimp installed but if a panel plugin would be easier...
[07:20] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, Yes, it's called screebshot plugin and should be preinstalled. Just try to add it.
[07:20] <kalikiana> And gimp is indeed to slow for screenshot if you're not editing an image ;)
[07:22] <laserbeak43> ok ok
[07:22] <laserbeak43> just installed it
[07:22] <laserbeak43> how do i use it?
[07:22] <laserbeak43> the screenshot plugin?
[07:24] <laserbeak43> ahh ice
[07:24] <laserbeak43> nice
[07:24] <laserbeak43> added it to the panel
[07:29] <laserbeak43> kalikiana: that did it thanks :)
[07:30] <Kjellviz> hey, i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kde desktop on top, where did all those funky screensavers i had in gnome go ?
[07:30] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, You're welcome :)
[07:31] <Jester45> Kjellviz, i think you are in the wrong channel try #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[07:32] <Kjellviz> lol i thought i had joined kubuntu ^^ sry bout that! :P
[07:35] <laserbeak43> can i not stream .m3u files  in gxine?
[07:37] <TheSheep> laserbeak43: I'm afraid .m3u files are just playlists
[07:37] <laserbeak43> yeah to load stream files or watever
[07:38] <aquo> hi, can you tell me where i can find the xubuntu seeds?
[07:40] <illu45> aquo, for BT?
[07:40] <illu45> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/ for Feisty
[07:40] <illu45> Just download the torrent file
[07:41] <aquo> no, i search the garminate input.
[07:41] <laserbeak43> the what?
[07:42] <aquo> aehm germinate
[07:42] <aquo> the germinate input.
[07:42] <aquo> the seeds.
[07:42] <laserbeak43> the seeds?
[07:43] <laserbeak43> torrent seeds?
[07:43] <laserbeak43> i think the torrent client will show you the seeds
[07:43] <laserbeak43> not sure what you mean tho
[07:43] <laserbeak43> sorry
[07:43] <aquo> no, the rule files you need for generating package lists for remastering the install cds
[07:44] <laserbeak43> oh i don't know anything about that sorry :)
[07:44] <musiq> Which program (which fits on a boot disk) should i use to format my entire hard disk, and than create partitions for ubuntu?
[07:44] <aquo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[07:45] <illu45> musiq, the ubuntu LiveCD comes with gparted, which should allow you to format your disk and create partitions
[07:46] <illu45> ...I think the Xubuntu LiveCD does too, but I'm not entirely certain, actually.
[07:46] <laserbeak43> i installed from the livecd
[07:47] <illu45> Does the Xubuntu liveCD have gparted as well, or does it use something else?
[07:47] <laserbeak43> aquo:  so you found it?
[07:47] <musiq> And does the Xubuntu alternate-cd have gparted as well? (that(s rhe one i have)
[07:47] <aquo> no, thats for ubuntu
[07:47] <laserbeak43> illu45:  i don't know what it is but it's dead easy to make a dual boot with it
[07:47] <laserbeak43> even imported my xp files
[07:48] <aquo> there must be some seeds for xubuntu too, but i am not too sure.
[07:48] <laserbeak43> aquo: i think the packages are the same, the only diff is the window manage AFAIK
[07:48] <aquo> laserbeak43: the repository is the same, but the content of the install-cds differ
[07:49] <aquo> i want to remaster ubuntu cds with my own package set.
[07:49] <laserbeak43> oh i see your point
[07:49] <aquo> but documentation is cruel
[07:49] <laserbeak43> hehe
[07:50] <aquo> is there something like an xubuntu developer channel?
[07:50] <aquo> -n
[07:51] <laserbeak43> no idea
[07:51] <kalikiana> aquo, Sure, #xubuntu-devel
[07:52] <laserbeak43> cool
[07:53] <laserbeak43> so can someone tell me how come i can't stream using .m3u? i can with just about any media player in, dare i say it?(windows)
[07:53] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, What players did you try?
[07:53] <kalikiana> ^^ on linux, that is.
[07:53] <laserbeak43> just the one that's installed gxine
[07:54] <laserbeak43> :p
[07:54] <kalikiana> Try audacious or something else which is more mature.
[07:54] <laserbeak43> oh ok cool
[07:57] <laserbeak43> kalikiana: wicked
[07:57] <laserbeak43> thanks
[07:58] <laserbeak43> winamp clone :)
[07:58] <laserbeak43> ish
[07:58] <laserbeak43> ok next question
[07:58] <laserbeak43> for 1000 points
[07:58] <kalikiana> You can even reuse about every skin :D
[07:58] <laserbeak43> :P
[07:58] <laserbeak43> winamp skins???
[07:58] <kalikiana> Yes.
[07:58] <laserbeak43> niiiiiice
[07:58] <laserbeak43> how do i get dual monitors running on an intel computer
[07:59] <laserbeak43> :P
[07:59] <laserbeak43> intel graphics cared i mean
[07:59] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, xinerama?
[07:59] <laserbeak43> dell lattitude d520
[07:59] <TheSheep> !xinerama | laserbeak43
[07:59] <ubotu> laserbeak43: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:59] <kalikiana> Acutally I don't have more than one lcd at home. :'/
[07:59] <laserbeak43> nice
[07:59] <laserbeak43> well i have one lcd one crt :P
[08:00] <TheSheep> kalikiana: wyse terminal connected via rs232 comes in handy ;)
[08:00] <kalikiana> TheSheep, :P
[08:00] <laserbeak43> rs232/
[08:01] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, If you have a crt, *your* eyes hurt. ;)
[08:01] <TheSheep> laserbeak43: com port
[08:01] <laserbeak43> oh
[08:02] <laserbeak43> kalikiana: actualy i like crt better than lcd
[08:02] <laserbeak43> my eyes feel like holes are being melted into them with lcd
[08:03] <kalikiana> laserbeak43, You're possibly one of the people who don't notice frequencies that much. I think not everyone is sensible about 10Hz changes like me. :/
[08:03] <laserbeak43> i notice them sometimes
[08:03] <laserbeak43> a lot lately actualy
[08:03] <laserbeak43> but my eyes are really bad anyway
[08:04] <kalikiana> My eyes hurt with anything < 75 Hz, 85 Hz is about okay.
[08:12] <Jester45> the tricky part is guessing when to change grub to windows :)
[08:12] <Jester45> when the tv isnt working because windows hasnt started
[08:13] <laserbeak43> Jester45: lolol
[08:13] <laserbeak43> that must suck bigtime
[08:13] <laserbeak43> how can u read fonsts on your tv??
[08:13] <Jester45> hdtv :) not that bad at thatres
[08:14] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:14] <laserbeak43> would you be able to see fonts on the plasma?
[08:15] <Jester45> im guessing i could see them better
[08:15] <laserbeak43> i would never be able to read a thing if i used a computer on my tv
[08:15] <Jester45> i watch videos on it
[08:15] <Jester45> and play asteroids
[08:15] <Jester45> er xoids :)
[08:21] <laserbeak43> LOL
[08:22] <Jester45> xoids is better
[08:22] <laserbeak43> xoids?
[08:22] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:22] <laserbeak43> asteroids?
[08:22] <laserbeak43> no thanks
[08:22] <laserbeak43> :P
[08:22] <Jester45> yep
[08:23] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:23] <Jester45> its a clasic
[08:23] <laserbeak43> i'll give it that :P
[08:23] <Jester45> or if you wanna get fancy try out chromium
[08:23] <laserbeak43> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium
[08:23] <laserbeak43> :P
[08:24] <Jester45> i have a flash version of umm... whats the name... space invaders? where the alien sucide down
[08:24] <Jester45> and you have this little tank and just goes left or right
[08:24] <Jester45> and can hide behind 4 things in the air
[08:24] <laserbeak43> omg
[08:25] <laserbeak43> i remember playing that in like 84
[08:25] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:25] <Jester45> i have paperboy also
[08:25] <Jester45> that game strange
[08:25] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:26] <laserbeak43> yeah
[08:26] <Jester45> oo
[08:26] <Jester45> there is png
[08:27] <Jester45> pong
[08:27] <laserbeak43> classic
[08:27] <laserbeak43> i could stay awake for half of one round
[08:27] <Jester45> and my most time wasting thing tremulous
[08:30] <laserbeak43> tremulous??
[08:30] <laserbeak43> never hearda it :P
[08:45] <laserbeak43> whats the syntax for sudo in terminal?
[08:45] <blizz> sudo get me a beer
[08:46] <laserbeak43> lol
[08:47] <laserbeak43> lol seriously
[08:47] <laserbeak43> is it sudo "password"?
[08:47] <Jester45> no its
[08:47] <Jester45> sudo "command"
[08:47] <Jester45> then it ask for the pass if needed
[08:48] <Jester45> sudo has a password timeout of 5 mins
[08:48] <Jester45> or somthing close to 5 mins
[08:49] <laserbeak43> cause i'm tyring to install something with sh and it eventualy asks me for my password but when i put it itn it's wrong for some reason
[08:50] <Jester45> are you putting in your root pass
[08:51] <laserbeak43> Jester45: yes
[08:51] <laserbeak43> and the password works for everything else
[08:52] <Jester45> is it asking you only when you use sudo
[08:54] <kali|c> laserbeak43, You *could* configure gksu to ask for a root pass. :P
[08:55] <laserbeak43> how would i do that?
[09:00] <kali|c> laserbeak43, You should read the manpage of gksu or something, I don't know that by heart. ;)
[09:02] <laserbeak43> kali|c: ok thanks ;)
[09:02] <kali|c> yw
[09:10] <laserbeak43> when i type in my password in terminal, the cursor doesn't move. i think this is regular behavior but i'm not sure.
[09:12] <kali|c> laserbeak43, Yes, password inputs inside terminals are usually hidden.
[09:25] <laserbeak43> kali|c: ahh a root password was never set so i had to create one
[09:26] <kali|c> kali|c, Yep, ubuntu tries to 'persuade' you to use sudo. *g
[09:27] <TheSheep> which turns out ot be a pretty good habit, most of the time
[09:27] <laserbeak43> can i install libgtk-1.2.so.0 and glibc-2.1 without it interfereing with my other installations?
[09:28] <kali|c> TheSheep, Yes, keeps you from being root too much - although there is 'su -c' as well. ;)
[09:28] <TheSheep> and sudo -s
[09:28] <kali|c> :P
[09:29] <kali|c> And there is a rabbit making mochi on the moon.  ~('-')~
[09:29] <kali|c> hi maxamillion :)
[09:30] <gerro> how would I go about using the k7 kernel and nvidia-glx-new?
[09:34] <maxamillion> hello kali|c
[09:36] <gerro> when I try apt-get install linux-k7 it installs the crappy nvidia drivers that don't work with my newer card so I have to install nvidia-new-glx but that removes linux-k7 because nvidia old isn't installed...
[09:36] <gerro> nvidia-glx-new I mean
[09:37] <gerro> a better idea how do I make it so apt-get doesn't even know which card I have
[09:37] <gerro> it pisses me off to no end :(
[09:39] <Jester45> remove the card :0
[09:43] <gerro> i removed every kernel restricted module and graphics driver it had then did apt-get install linux-k7 nvidia-glx-new... hmm if I get a xorg crash I'm going to try forcing it to use custom compiled nvidia drivers by manually locating directories and deleting
[09:45] <gerro> and.. crash.. 7184 is older than 9755..
[10:19] <mikeconcepts>  Using Xubuntu...I'd appreciate a link to a howto for the best way to achieve  network connectivity to windows boxes on my network
[10:25] <maxamillion> mikeconcepts: what kind of network connectivity?
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> access shares on windows
[10:26] <mikeconcepts> from xubuntu
[10:26] <maxamillion> mikeconcepts: there really isn't an easy way to do it at the moment, that is something that is being worked on for the next release
[10:27] <maxamillion> mikeconcepts: if you google for "xubuntu+samba+browse" there are a few tutorials
[10:27] <mikeconcepts> have accomplished by installing smb, creating a /mnt, but after a reboot I have to establish mount again
[10:28] <mikeconcepts> would like something better
[10:28] <mikeconcepts> maxamillion, thanks, will check them all out
[10:29] <maxamillion> mikeconcepts: that's an easy fix though, just make a bash script to establish the mount connection and then make it run in your xfce auto-start applications list and then you won't have to bother with it anymore :)
[10:29] <mikeconcepts> maxamillion, that it what I'll do, thanks
[10:35] <maxamillion> mikeconcepts: anytime :)
[10:49] <WalrusKing> OracleGD.com - OracleGD.com - OracleGD.com - OracleGD.com
[11:18] <reaVer> pointless:P
[11:19] <TheSheep> reaVer: maybe, maybe not
[11:19] <reaVer> he got K-lined
[11:19] <reaVer> he won't be back
[11:20] <TheSheep> ah, great
[11:20] <reaVer> 23:46 -!- WalrusKing [i=oraclegd@tejava.dreamhost.com]  has quit [K-lined] 
[11:20] <TheSheep> didn't notice it :)
[11:20] <TheSheep> reaVer: thanks
[11:21] <reaVer> np:P