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MinatakuAlonea: Defrag it from Windows. Only option.12:13
AloneaMinataku: I am trying to avoid reformatting it for the 4th time in 2 months12:13
MinatakuIf you don't have Windows anymore, get the data off and convert the filesystem12:13
MinatakuMicrosoft makes 100% safe NTFS access impossible from anything but Windows12:14
Minataku(It's impossible in Windows as well, but let's not get pedantic)12:14
AloneaMinataku: windows wont defrag it. either crashes or stays at 1%. I was just wondering if there was any linux apps that would do a ntfs drive as well as ext312:15
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MinatakuNo, there's no Linux apps that will defrag an NTFS volume12:15
MinatakuAs for an ext3 volume, it's not necessary12:15
MinatakuAs I said12:15
MinatakuIt will take longer than the life of your computer for the fragmentation of a Linux filesystem to reach the level of a Windows filesystem12:15
AloneaMinataku: ok. thanks. just wondering. I figured linux didn't need it.12:16
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MinatakuBut yeah, NTFS is a complete piece of crap even from within Windows12:16
AloneaMinataku: any idea why I have to restart to use wired?12:16
MinatakuOutside Windows it just gets worse12:16
MinatakuAlonea: None, that's pretty weird12:16
AloneaMinataku: heh. yeah.12:16
AloneaI think its because I got rid of knetwork manager because its buggy and screws up my pigdin12:17
Aloneawell, knetworkmanager and network manager12:17
Aloneaneither would work, or if it did, caused me too many problems12:18
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UbunutuNuubuWow, I really like Linux.... so quick even running off the CD....12:21
KartiHi all, I have a standalone computer with Kubuntu Feisty, but would like to install beryl desktop so my system can be shown off! The problem is I don't have a lot of experience installing apps other than apt-get or the GUI adept, so I wondered if someone could point me to a .deb for the complete install as the beryl site seems to have lots of smaller files that are not .debs12:22
Minataku!compiz12:22
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:22
MinatakuRead that12:22
MinatakuAnd go there12:22
MinatakuBeryl and Compiz are one now, BTW12:22
jontecdoes anyone know why my chroot isn't getting an internet connection? I'm connected through wireless and it's a kubuntu 32-bit chroot12:22
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KartiI understand that...my main problem is no access to the net or the repositorys12:23
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Lars_GAnd once again I scurry around, looking for a solution in the wrong rooms trying to get some help12:23
barbarosI changed style to plastik from polyester in Appearance -System settings but window title bar and other things look the same. what is wrong?12:24
MinatakuKarti: Wait... how are you here then?12:24
AloneaMinataku: is there any hope for ATI cards working with beryl yet (decently that is), or am I forever doomed?12:24
Minataku!ati12:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:24
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MinatakuAs for them working, no clue12:24
KartiIt is a standalone system at work. My PC here is fine and looks great!12:24
AloneaMinataku: I have those installed already.12:24
vltHello. I'm using Kubuntu Edgy and a BCM43XX wifi chipset (via ndiswrapper). I want to connect to a EAP-TTLS secured WLAN? Is this possible? Where do I set this mode (I'm using knetworkmanager)?12:24
Lars_GI'm trying to make my ipod continue to work as it worked before on ubuntu. the problem is, the device is recognized by the usb storage modules, but I don't see it on dcop/hal (to have it recognized by amarok) any suggestions?12:25
MinatakuKarti: I'd say ask someone for a list of the debs you need and stick them on a CD-R12:25
MinatakuLars_G: Heh, WAY outside this channel's reach, I think12:25
MinatakuEr12:25
MinatakuSorry, that's to vlt12:25
AloneaMinataku: and they do work 3d accel. wise...but I am completely unable to get beryl to work with it and other people who ahve ati cards who did get it to work said performance was dismal.12:25
Lars_Gok thanks12:25
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MinatakuAlonea: Well, ATI hates us all as individual people12:26
MinatakuSo I wouldn't count on it being very good12:26
UbunutuNuubuLOL12:26
AloneaMinataku: that I do know, but I can't change my video card since its a laptop.12:26
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AloneaGuess I will just have to wait until next computer, which wont be for quite a while for me.12:28
jontec(my ati card is pretty great (laptop as well), but I don't do any 3d acceleration... O_o)12:28
Aloneajontec: actually, whats funny is the reason why I wanted 3d so bad. the Open GL screensavers. Well, those and Unreal Tournament12:28
MinatakuAlonea: Blame ATI12:28
jontecI haven't tried beryl. I've been wanting to, but I'm amd64, I see my life as complicated enough12:28
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jontecAlonea: lol12:29
UbunutuNuubuMinataku: I was configuring drivers in Xorg, freaked out, closed the terminal. Tried to reconfigure, config.dat is locked by a process now, so I cannot. Which process would that be so I can kill it?12:29
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jontecwhy is this chroot being so evil! T_T12:29
MinatakuOi12:29
UbunutuNuubuThanks12:29
AloneaMinataku: I know its their fault, but I haven't checked on things for a few months and was wondering if there was any change in drivers, etc. that made any improvements or any sort.12:29
MinatakuNo12:29
MinatakuThat wasn't a command12:29
MinatakuThat was an exclamation12:29
MinatakuXD12:29
UbunutuNuubuhahaha12:30
UbunutuNuubuNuub is in my name :D12:30
MinatakuUbunutuNuubu: Probably whatever you ran in the first place isn't closed12:30
Minataku"ps -A" and see if it's still running12:30
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UbunutuNuubuMinataku: Thanks! Figured it out, I'm still wrapping my head around the terminology,,,, what is 'sudo'?12:31
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Minatakuubuntulog: SUperuser DO12:31
MinatakuIt performs a command with elevated priviliges12:31
UbunutuNuubuAhhh neat12:31
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MinatakuYou'll notice that if you fail to type sudo before certain commands you'll get either "Command not found" or "Permission denied"12:32
UbunutuNuubunew prob.... I lack permission to terminate the process: dpkg-reconfigure12:32
UbunutuNuubuAhhh12:32
MinatakuThat's where sudo comes in12:32
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MinatakuAfter that, something else may be locked, tell me if it is and I'll help you with that12:33
UbunutuNuubuYah... I was trying to do it in the process table... time to start getting used to the terminal12:33
MinatakuUbunutuNuubu: Heh, I'm an advanced Linux user, I do everything from the terminal12:33
MinatakuI haven't used a file manager for at least 2 years now12:33
UbunutuNuubuMinataku: That's wehre I want to be at! It's already getting much easier. ie. using process ID's as opposed to their whole names12:34
Minataku^^12:35
KartiWhat is the Super key?12:35
MinatakuKarti: It has a Windows logo on it12:35
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Kartithanks ;)12:35
Minatakunp12:35
UbunutuNuubuI feel like I'm 6 and it's Xmas12:36
MinatakuHeehee12:36
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jontecI'm gonna try restarting to see if the chroot wants to work, but I think it's the fact that I'm using wireless12:39
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tjadahey all12:40
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tjada_fed12:40
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PollywogI am trying to reinstall vmware-server from a tarball but it complains about my kernel12:41
PollywogI have the generic 386 kernel sources installed, from Feisty12:42
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UbunutuNuubuHow would I replace KDE with Compiz, I've done everything.. I just need the termianl command :S12:42
soulrider_UbunutuNuubu: you cant replace KDE with compiz12:43
soulrider_maybe what you want it to turn compiz on ?12:43
soulrider_or maybe use GNOME instead of KDE12:43
eagles0513875anyone know of any good web page creators12:44
Minataku!compiz12:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:44
MinatakuDon't use GNOME12:44
eagles0513875!html'12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about html' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
MinatakuEver12:44
eagles0513875!htmls12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about htmls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
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MinatakuYou'll be scarred for life12:44
eagles0513875!html12:44
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com12:45
eagles0513875anyone know an equivalent program for linux like dreamweaver or frontpg12:45
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Minataku!compiz | UbunutuNuubu12:45
ubotuUbunutuNuubu: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:45
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MinatakuIn case you missed it12:45
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Lars_GOk the plot thickens.12:46
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Lars_Gthe ipod shows in dmesg, it's mountable. it works.12:46
eagles0513875Minataku: what is a user friendly html editor12:46
Minatakueagles0513875: Several were listed in !html12:46
Lars_GBut hal-device doesn't lists it12:46
eagles0513875ahhh ok12:46
eagles0513875lol12:46
MinatakuPersonally, I use nano12:46
eagles0513875didnt see those12:46
Lars_Geagles0513875: if you want wysiwyg try nvu12:46
MinatakuLars_G: I hate that stupid HAL crap12:46
MinatakuSo I can't help you with any of it12:47
eagles0513875were the ones listed like front pg u design the pg and it does the coding12:47
Lars_Gthanks Minataku12:47
eagles0513875!bluefish12:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bluefish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:47
MinatakuLars_G: Stick around though12:47
MinatakuI'm sure someone else will come along who can12:47
Lars_GMinataku: I will12:47
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Lars_Geagles0513875: bluefish is good. and google it12:48
MinatakuLars_G: Note, I'm not attacking you, just HAL12:48
Lars_GMinataku: I know12:48
MinatakuI think it's the stupidest load of crap12:48
estebanbianchihello12:48
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estebanbianchiwhat applicattion can i use to send/receive faxes on kubuntu?12:48
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UbunutuNuubuMinataku: Ty ^^ was AFK for a second12:51
Minatakunp12:51
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lokeHi, what could be the reason for linux-restricted-modules-common disable_modules to not work01:02
lokeI am trying to block nv and bcm43xx01:03
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satananybody?!01:04
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[GuS] buffles: 01:06
[GuS] why the CTCP-PING ?01:06
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shadowhywindhay there, when using twinview, is there a way just to make the taskbar stay on one screen, and not extend on both?01:13
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shadowhywindI am also having a problem with my nvidia drivers (manual install) and a mismatch when kubuntu starts, any ideas01:20
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psygrasshi..is there any deb files for the new amarok yet?01:27
psygrassi can't compile it01:27
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coreymon77???01:28
coreymon77did someone ping me?01:28
jdthello, in Kmail, how do you view emails as html?01:28
coreymon77buffles: did you ping me?01:28
bufflescoreymon77: Yes, sorry01:28
coreymon77buffles: you need anything?01:29
bufflescoreymon77: No thank You, wrong server01:29
Sannejdt: when I'm getting an html email, kmail asks me if I want to view it in html.01:29
jdtSanne: ahh. mine doesnt do that, but I will go through the settings again...01:30
Sannejdt: I'm looking also, maybe I have changed something.01:30
jdtSanne: Thanks, I'll let you know if I find it also01:31
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lokecan I get some help please01:32
loke?01:32
lokewhat is this forum all about, dead silent people?01:32
Sannejdt: security -> reading tab -> html messages: I have two options there and both are unchecked.01:33
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Dragnslcrloke- have you tried asking an actual question yet?01:34
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lokeHi, what could be the reason for linux-restricted-modules-common disable_modules to not work01:34
jdtSanne: Interesting. I just checked and both of mine where unchecked too. However I ticked the first one that says "Prefer HTML to Plain Text" and now it just shows html messages by default. which is ok I suppose.01:34
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lokeI asked it earlier the same question01:35
lokeI am trying to block nv and bcm43xx01:35
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Sannejdt: it's a bit insecure, you may want to read what it says on the first link in the warning under the options.01:35
lokeI have this line BLOCKED_DEVICES = "nv bcm43xx"01:35
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lokein the file01:36
jdtSanne: So when it changed back. now it just shows the html source, but no prompt or way that I can see to say "view as html"01:36
Sannejdt: actually, read both links :)01:36
jdtSanne: Actually, there is a link that I can click to view it as html..01:36
Sannejdt: I also found a "html status bar" in Appearance -> Message window and checked it.01:37
jdtcant believe that all this time I never saw that!01:37
Sannejdt: ahhh! yes, that's what I meant. hehe :)01:37
lokewhat the hell, people. you all should not be on this chat session01:37
lokeuseless01:37
Sannejdt: the workings of our brain can be funny sometimes ;)01:37
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jdtSanne: Thanks for your help..01:39
Sannejdt: you're welcome :)01:40
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coreymon77loke: whats the matter01:42
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coreymon77loke: and btw, you are not gonna get any help from anyone with that attitude01:42
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ardchoille!patience01:43
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:43
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ardchoilleloke: It's not possible for any oe person to know everything about Linux.. except for maybe Linus :)  If your questionisn't answered, try asking again later. It could be that the person with an answer is either not looking at their screen right now or hasn't entered the channel yet.01:44
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coreymon77loke: just be patient and polite and eventually someone will be able to help01:45
ardchoilleloke: You can also try http://ubuntuforums.org and see if you get an answer there.01:46
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lokethanks guys, actully that attitude is what got me any replies.01:46
lokeSorry about that01:46
coreymon77no problem01:47
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mneptokloke: the attitude is still not welcome. please play nice.01:49
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malakhiloke: You're trying to stop those two modules from loading, I assume?01:49
ardchoilleloke: I see you mentioned nv. Are you trying to get nvidia drivers working?01:50
ardchoilleJust a guess there.01:50
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TheCreationistStrange thing going on with Konversation.  Every time I start it up, the server list shows up, but can't be closed (there are no buttons and the X doesn't close it either).  Also, it keeps opening a title-less tab and says it can't connect.  Anyone else having this issue?01:53
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coreymon77TheCreationist: maybe you could try asking in the #konversation channel01:54
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: hey.. you fixed all your other problems?01:54
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: I think so.  Although now my CD burner doesn't show up again lol01:55
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nosrednaekimTheCreationist: did you go back to edgy?02:01
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: No, I've got everything running well in Ubuntu Feisty... Gave up on KDE, since the devs seem to neglect that version of Ubuntu.02:02
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: unfortunately so..02:02
nosrednaekimits reallyquite annoying.02:02
TheCreationistI think KDE is much better than gnome (and even easier for Windows-users to adapt to).. but oh well.02:03
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: So now the only major problem I'm having is the same ata2 problems.02:03
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nosrednaekimI always install ubuntu off of the ubuntu cd and then get the kubuntu-desktop02:04
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: When I did the first install, I had the .20-15 kernel.  Now it's got the -16 kernel.  Both have the same problem.02:04
coreymon77TheCreationist: whats wrong with running it in kde?02:04
TheCreationistcoreymon77: Running what?02:04
coreymon77nosrednaekim: i just install kubuntu fresh02:04
coreymon77TheCreationist: feisty02:05
TheCreationistcoreymon77: Oh, Feisty doesn't work for me with KDE for some reason.02:05
TheCreationistcoreymon77: No sound is a big issue.02:05
coreymon77nosrednaekim: that way i avoid any conflict problems02:05
coreymon77TheCreationist: i tend to have sound problems02:05
coreymon77TheCreationist: but thats just becuase my sound card is fried02:05
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: So do you have any ideas on how I can get my cd burner to be recognized?02:05
TheCreationistnosrednaekim: dmesg reports that ata2 was the problem.02:06
coreymon77TheCreationist: my card sorta decides when it wants to work and when it doesnt02:06
lokeardchoille, you are right02:06
TheCreationistcoreymon77: Sounds like Ubuntu ;)02:06
nosrednaekimTheCreationist: hmm no I don't02:06
lokeand I am also using ndiswrapper02:06
ardchoille!nivida | loke See if this helps02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
ardchoille!nividia | loke See if this helps02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
lokeso I need to stop those two from loading02:07
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nosrednaekim!nvidia02:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:07
ardchoille!nvidia | loke See if this helps02:07
ubotuloke See if this helps: please see above02:07
darkrift411anyone here use superkaramba much?02:07
ardchoillestupid keyboard, lol02:07
lokeproblem seems to be as if the block statement is not working at all02:07
coreymon77TheCreationist: its not ubuntu, same thing happens in windows02:07
darkrift411i instaled it and put a few plugins on, but dont know how to group them so i can move the whole set together02:07
ardchoilleloke: I think that nvidia driver page will help02:08
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: you can't move the whole set together.02:08
darkrift411wow02:08
darkrift411that sucks02:08
Daisuke_Idowell that narrowed it down02:08
coreymon77loke: what network card are you using?02:08
darkrift411and there is no snap that makes them auto align :@02:08
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danusARGENTOP2P02:12
danusJOIN_ARGENTOP2P02:12
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ardchoilleHoly capslock batman!02:13
coreymon77lol02:13
nosrednaekimheh02:14
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darkrift411SPAM!02:18
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Lam_how do i get ntp to resync my clock via the terminal?02:28
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Lam_nvm got it02:29
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navetsi have a css question02:33
navetswhen I make my webpage browswer window smaller, how do I make my webpage scale down also?02:33
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nosrednaekimnavets: Ctrl+-?02:34
nosrednaekimbut if you mean within css... this isn't the correct channel02:35
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navetsi was just asking everyone to see if anyone knows02:35
blizzzeknavets: with relative size, e.g. 50% instead of 600px.... but wrong channel anyway ;)02:35
jhutchinsnavets: Depends on the web page code.02:35
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navetsblizzzek: thanks ill try it out02:36
jhutchinsnavets: There's a new feature in the 3d desktops that scales the contents of the window if you shrink it, but not fully implemented anywhere else that I know of.02:36
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TheCreationistIs there a way, when using Remote Desktop, to prevent the host computer from displaying the message saying another user is controlling your desktop?02:42
rohohaha02:42
TheCreationistI'd like it to be completely transparent.02:42
rathelHow do I disable the scroll wheel on my mouse?02:42
rohoTheCreationist: you could just use vnc instead02:42
TheCreationistroho: Well, this is using the vncviewer02:42
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rohousing vnc shouldn't have any notifications02:43
rohoexcept for a switch in color in the vnc taskbar color (on windows machines)02:43
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rohomaybe it's the frontend that's the problem02:44
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aaroncampbell_what will open a .7z file on kubuntu03:15
Fr0deaaroncampbell_: p7zip03:16
Fr0deaaroncampbell_: sudo aptitude install p7zip03:17
Fr0de:)03:17
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darkrift411q:03:26
darkrift411oops03:27
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eriefisherHello.....03:34
Fr0deeriefisher: hi :)03:34
eriefisherpretty quiet here03:35
Fr0deeriefisher: must be night time where most people are..?03:35
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eriefisherFrOde:where I should be?03:36
Fr0deeriefisher: I'm in Australia, where it's 11:36 in the morning.. :)03:36
Fr0dewell, in Sydney it is..03:36
BrianDonohue!offtopic03:37
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:37
BrianDonohue:P03:37
Fr0dehehe.. call it a meta question - eriefisher asked why the channel is so quiet.. :P03:38
BrianDonohueHaha, I don't care because I'm offtopic half the time in here anyway :P03:38
eriefisherhey BianDonahue03:39
BrianDonohueHey. *BrianDonohue :P03:39
BrianDonohueHaha03:39
BrianDonohuePfft that's dumb!03:39
BrianDonohueYou can't make your own channel on freenode!03:39
BrianDonohueWell you can, but it doesn't give you op!03:40
coreymon77ya you can03:40
darkrift411lol03:40
darkrift411if you register it, you can get ops03:40
coreymon77ya it does, you identify as the channel owner and you can do whatever you want03:40
Fr0deBrianDonohue: I just made #fr0de and I'm op in it.. ??03:40
BrianDonohueSome one join #brian03:40
BrianDonohueI just got a message as soon as I made it: [21:39]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- You do not have channel operator access to [#brian] 03:41
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coreymon77well then03:41
coreymon77identify as the contact03:41
BrianDonohueHow?03:41
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coreymon77with the password you used to register the channel03:42
coreymon77 /msg chanserv identify #brian [password] 03:42
killermachI have a USB icon on my desktop that is no longer mounted, but I cannot delete the icon from the desktop and it's not showing in my ~/Desktop/ directory .. where is the link that displays this icon so I can delete it?03:43
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ManiDhillonI have a strange problem! Can anyone help me?03:44
eriefisherkillermach:konsole>>sudo rm home/name/Desktop/<icon>03:44
killermachsure we can, don't ask to ask, just ask03:44
coreymon77!ask | manchicken__03:44
ubotumanchicken__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:44
coreymon77whoops03:44
coreymon77wrong person03:44
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Daisuke_Idowe can try to help :)03:45
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killermacheriefisher, ls /home/user/Desktop shows no file by that name03:45
coreymon77they just left03:45
Daisuke_Idooh well03:45
Daisuke_Idowatch, that's probably the problem03:46
Daisuke_Idointermittent internet connection :)03:46
coreymon77yup03:46
coreymon77probably03:46
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killermacheriefisher, icon name is "16G Media (test2)" and " ls /home/user/Desktop/ "  16G Media (test2)" is not there03:47
eriefisherkillermach:in konqueror >>view show hidden files03:48
BrianDonohueMuhaha! #BrianDonohue03:48
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BluesKaj'evening folks03:50
killermacheriefisher, nope.. and "ls -al /home/user/Desktop/ " shows no files starting w/ "16"03:50
coreymon77and i have my own channel too03:50
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BrianDonohueNow to learn the in's and out's of chanserv03:51
troll/msg chanserv help03:51
eriefisherkillermach:it probably got left by hal-I've seen it before in Dapper-not sure how to delete it03:52
darkrift411chanserv is easy :)03:52
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darkrift411i was services oper on a few 10k+ networks for a few years03:52
BrianDonohueDarkrift411, join #BrianDonohue if you're not busy so we can chat in there03:53
rohodarkrift411: did you get any chicks?03:53
BrianDonohueI want to know some things.03:53
BrianDonohueroho: Do you think he did? Lol03:53
darkrift411tons, i went to www.porn.com :)03:53
rohoi was being coy03:53
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Jucato!offtopic03:54
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:54
BluesKajbeen fooling with vista all day...feel sorry for windows users even more now ...nice eye candy, but what PITA to install drivers...boated isn't the word for it either03:54
killermacheriefisher, I also now notice a /home/user/test/ that shows a USB icon, if I delete it, it goes away.. if I create a new directory called test, it assumes the USB icon ... weird03:54
trolli chan opped for a year or so...  not the brightest thing i ever volenteered for03:54
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eriefisherkillermach:?????????????03:55
BluesKajroho, ya won't find much in the romance dept around here ...unless yer into geekola :)03:55
killermachthis is a different folder I found while trying to hunt the 16G Media (test2) folder03:56
soulridergosh, im so bored, anyone need any help ?03:56
BluesKajroho's looking for chicks , soulrider :)03:57
killermachsoulrider, I'm hunting mysterious icons on the desktop that will not go away.. you game?03:57
soulriderkillermach:  =/03:57
Agent_bobsoulrider yeah.  howto get a script to use exit code from something it runs in the background or in another tty ?03:57
Jucatosoulrider: I need help. can you please shout !offtopic when I'm not looking? thanks :)03:57
soulriderBluesKaj:  roho whats creepy03:57
killermachBlueDevil, icons .. chicks.. hmm.. how to choose03:57
BluesKajoooh mysterious icons03:57
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BrianDonohue!offtopic03:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:58
soulrideryou guys know any good python books? i downloaded one but it wasnt really good03:58
BluesKajsaving a text file after change leaves a backup copy ...what a pita , how do i stop that ?03:58
Agent_bobgood and python .... hmmm03:59
soulrideri hope theres a Head First: Python03:59
soulriderthe java one was great03:59
killermachBrianDonohue, so that's how to choose :)03:59
soulriderok, theres not :(03:59
Agent_bobBluesKaj configure your editor04:00
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Jucato!info diveintopython04:00
Agent_bobdive into python   online docs04:00
ubotudiveintopython: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB04:00
Jucatosoulrider: ^^^^^04:00
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soulriderhold on, need to browse packages.ubuntu.com :P04:01
jetsaredimare there any amarok 1.4.6 builds anywhere?04:01
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Jucatojetsaredim: afaik, it is being built now for Gutsy. it will probably be available in feisty-backports soon04:02
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rohono, i was just joking04:03
rohoi actually have a girl in the third dimension04:03
rohobtw, i love beryl.04:03
Agent_bobjoking !  you can't do that here, it's against Jucato'ization of the channel policy04:04
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killermachodd.. the icon is "ON the Desktop" but not in konqueror /home/user/Desktop directory... it's coming from somewhere04:05
darkrift411wow04:05
Agent_bob:)04:06
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BrianDonohue!pythongonewild04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pythongonewild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
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killermachoh. great.. I had to run konqueror as root to get it to let me copy files from the NTFS partition on the USB drive, and  now I see there is a /root/.DCOPserver_user-desktop__0 file04:06
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Agent_boband what's so great about that ?04:08
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BluesKajthanks Agent_bob ...din't think of that , but i managed :)04:09
muhammadi have problem about exchanging between arabic and english i used this command to be able to do that  setxkbmap -layout "us,ar" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" what i want to do is to execute that command every reboot process how can i do that ?04:09
muhammadi have added that command to rc.local and it doesnt seem to work also04:09
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Agent_bobBluesKaj well the specific editor is what does things like that,  so configuring the editor is the "propper" answer to that Q.04:10
soulridermuhammad: you can change the keyboard layout in the kde control center04:10
Agent_bobalso some, though not all; editors have global configs you can edit04:10
Jucatomuhammad: the Keyboard layout in System Settings -> Regional & Language doesn't work for you?04:11
BluesKajwell anyway Agent_bob , it was clear enuff04:11
muhammadjucato yes it doesnt also04:12
Jucatohm...04:12
muhammadi tried that and nothing succeeded04:12
Agent_bobmuhammad  setxkbmap  would be an xorg related command and have nothing to do with system configuration  i.e. the /etc/rc.local04:12
killermachAgent_bob, well root shouldn't be DCOP'ing my user.. that's just wrong .. right? :)04:12
muhammadsoulrider i did that04:12
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muhammadagent_bob from the definition of rc.local it can ya can put some commands to be executed periodically04:13
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Agent_bobkillermach while i agree with the idea the folks at kde don't.  kde and kdm write to /root all the time....04:13
killermachmuhammad, try to put it in your .kde/Autostart04:13
killermachas a shell script04:13
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muhammadkillermach ok i will try thx anyway04:14
Agent_bobmuhammad yeah ~/.kde/Autostart is what you want.04:14
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Agent_bobthat way X gets it not the kernel04:14
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Lonetorushello04:19
Agent_bobkillermach unless they have changed it in fiesty you can't login via kdm without files being writen in /root   and you can't run anything as root without /root/ comming into play... or maybe i should say "shouldn't be able to" in place of "can't".    and while discussing shoulds/shouldn'ts  i should specify /<root's_home>/ rather than /root/  .   unfortunately some coders do what i first did in their code /root/ is always as04:19
Lonetorusis this the right place to say, WOW, linux has come a long way since i looked at it the last time (back in 2001)04:19
Daisuke_Idoit is, and it has.04:19
Lonetorusi tried ubunti about a year ago but stranded on getting two monitors running on my laptop04:20
Lonetorusnow it just works04:20
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Daisuke_Idoi'm coming up on 8 months windows-free.  had my token for nearly 2 months as a bona fide friend of Bill W.04:20
Lonetorus\o/04:20
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Agent_bobLonetorus long ways, yes.  not sure all of it is in the right dirrection, but it's still a long ways.04:20
NickPrestaLonetorus, if you're using Twinview, dual monitor support is great.04:21
Lonetorusahh yes, im not sure i want to discuss linux politics :D04:21
Agent_bob:)04:21
Lonetorusi swore that win xp would be the last ms os i would ever run :)04:21
darkrift411is it bad that i have 3 processes that are using 2.7g of virtual ram each?04:22
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Daisuke_IdoLonetorus: my thoughts exactly.  i told myself i'd be comfortable with linux by the time vista came out.  and i am, for the most part04:22
Agent_bobsure ways to start a fight with a man,  kick his dog,  slap his kid,  flurt with his gal,  mention politics or religion.04:22
Daisuke_Idosad thing is those are in reverse order.04:23
BrianDonohueOr which distro is the best.04:23
NickPrestaLonetorus, I prefer to look at it as "The best tool for the job" and Windows might be the tool you need at one point and GNU+Linux might be the best at another point.  I still keep Windows around for gaming - otherwise, I prefer GNU+Linux04:23
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Agent_bobBrianDonohue that's political04:23
muhammadthx alot guys it works now :D04:23
Daisuke_IdoNickPresta: gaming was actually one of the reasons i switched.04:24
LonetorusNickPresta: yes, i am, allthough i would prefer to use two "seperate" desktops (so that maximizing a window, only goes to one monitor and not across both) but i was unable to get that working :( thank god i made a backup of my xorg.conf04:24
BrianDonohue!offtopic | Agent_bob04:24
ubotuAgent_bob: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:24
BrianDonohueHaha :)04:24
Agent_bob:)04:24
songwindLonetorus:  I liked using Xinerama.  It was (mostly) the best of both worlds04:24
Daisuke_Idodosbox serves my needs admirably (i'm from an older generation)04:24
songwindYou could move apps from one monitor to the other but they would maximize to their own monitor, not span.04:25
Agent_bob:)04:25
NickPrestaLonetorus, I don't know how you would do it in KWin normally but I can open a window and only have it on one monitor when fully maximised. I am using Beryl, however.04:25
Lonetorussongwind: yes, but i cant get it running using the options inside the nvidia-settings app04:25
Agent_bobnope04:25
songwindah, gotcha.04:25
Lonetorusi guess i have to try setting it up manually04:25
songwindLet me see if I still have the link for the tutorial I used, it was very thorough04:25
NickPrestaLonetorus, I know it's possible because when I switch from Beryl to Kwin, the behavior is the same so it's defintely possible.04:25
Lonetorusnow i think its time to see if i can get one of my favorite games running :D04:26
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rO_othi04:26
NickPrestaDaisuke_Ido, what was your gaming-related reason to switch?04:26
rO_othow do that like I can have another computer desk and control it through the network with GUI?04:27
rO_othow's that called?04:27
songwindLonetorus: which game?04:27
rO_otanybody know?04:27
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songwindr0_ot:  Do you mean remote control?  VNC or something?04:27
Agent_bobrO_ot freeNX04:28
NickPrestar0_ot: You would want to setup an ssh session with X forwarding. VNC does that too, IIRC04:28
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Daisuke_IdoNickPresta: dosbox runs better under linux than windows :)04:28
killermachok.. hal won.. I just remounted the drive , and set it so any user could disable it, then I disabled it as my account and the icon disappeared04:28
Daisuke_Idogive me classic adventure games and i'm a happy camper04:28
killermachI would still like to know what controlled that04:28
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Lonetorussongwind: open transport tycoon04:29
NickPrestaDaisuke_Ido, ah, okay. I rarely play older games anymore. I bought a newer computer this past Christmas so I splurged and bought HL2, CS:S, oblivion, etc, etc to see what I've been missing :P04:29
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songwindLonetorus: Is that Open Source?04:29
xsachai logged in today and my adept-manager has disappeared, so i tried to install it with apt-get: it says i need these other files, i tried to d/l them but it says i need libapt-apt-pkg-libc6.4.6-3.53 and there is no release candidate for it04:29
Agent_bobkillermach the icon ?    man that04:29
xsachalibapt-pkg-libc6.4-3.53*04:29
Daisuke_Idoopenttd04:29
Daisuke_Idoyes, it's open source04:30
Lonetorussongwind: yes :) allthough you need the original gfx files from the commercial game04:30
Agent_bob's kde,   configure the desktop and set it to display what ever devices you want04:30
Daisuke_Ido!info openttd04:30
ubotuPackage openttd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:30
Lonetorusbut they are available at a myriad sites as abandonware04:30
songwindLonetorus: Oh, so there was originally a game called "Transport Tycoon"?04:30
Agent_bobsorry bumped the enter key in the middle of that04:30
BrianDonohue!info openssh04:30
Lonetorusyes04:30
ubotuPackage openssh does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:30
Lonetorusalso, transport tycoon delux04:30
Agent_bobBrianDonohue it's openssh-[server/client] 04:31
songwindI need to find my copy of Sim City 4 and get that running in Crossover.04:31
Lonetorushttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/openttd/openttd-0.5.2-2-i386.deb04:31
Agent_bobBrianDonohue but meta package  ssh   gets both04:31
BrianDonohueOh okay, good deal.04:31
BrianDonohueThanks.04:31
voleninhi04:31
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Lonetoruscrossover?04:32
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volenini wonder if anyone knows how the 'active' display gets selected in case I have 2 of them04:32
volenin?04:32
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evsophomore2009Hey whats the SUDO code for Gaim Instant messanger04:32
BrianDonohuesudo gaim?04:32
evsophomore2009yeah04:33
volenin(on system startup, one display is kdm X server outputing to monitor, another one - freevo OR mythtv outputing to TV)04:33
NickPrestaevsophomore2009, `sudo apt-get install pidgin`04:33
evsophomore2009kk thanks04:33
Ace2016why do you need sudo for gaim???04:33
Jucatoevsophomore2009: you want to run GAIM as root?04:33
NickPrestaI think he wanted the code to install it? Otherwise, you dont need sudo04:33
songwindevsophomore2009 You should use gksudo for gaim, btw.04:33
Ace2016./configure && make && sudo checkinstall -D04:33
intelikeywarning ! evsophomore2009 and BrianDonohue  you should practice  using the graphical root jr. frontend for graphical apps.04:34
Jucatosongwind: only if gksudo is installed (which isn't in Kubuntu)04:34
Ace2016gaim is outdated, changed name to pidgin04:34
intelikeyusing sudo to run gui apps can muck perms04:34
songwindtrue, I defaulted to gksudo because it's a gnome app04:34
songwindkdesu in KDE04:34
NickPrestaevsophomore2009, if you want to run Gaim as root, kdesu04:34
xsachai logged in today and my adept-manager has disappeared, so i tried to install it with apt-get: it says i need these other files, i tried to d/l them but it says i need libapt-apt-pkg-libc6.4.6-3.53 and there is no release candidate for it04:34
intelikey!sudo04:34
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:34
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xsachalibapt-pkg-libc6.4-3.53*04:34
intelikey!kdesu04:34
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:34
intelikey!gksudo04:35
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info04:35
evsophomore2009NickPresta: i got it tho04:35
Jucatoxsacha: tried adept_manager (not adept-manager)?04:35
evsophomore2009NickPresta: thanks for your help, and actully wanting to help04:35
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xsachaThe program 'adept_manager' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:  sudo apt-get install adept-manager   bash: adept_manager: command not found04:35
Jucatoxsacha: sudo apt-get install adept04:36
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NickPrestaevsophomore2009, there are many, many Linux communities willing to help newbies. #kubuntu is pretty friendly so don't hesitate to ask questions.04:36
shane2peruHey, I need help with connecting Windows XP and Kubuntu Fiesty through Samba, anyone that can help in this area?04:36
Jucato!samba | shane2peru04:36
ubotushane2peru: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:36
evsophomore2009NickPresta: how do i install it on root04:37
evsophomore2009it says it couldnt find package04:37
shane2peruI know what it is, I followed this guide, and can't seem to get the two computers talking04:37
xsachaJucato: worked! :O im sure i tried that before and it wanted libc... anyway, now it gets something is wrong with apt database and that i should try apt-setup04:37
shane2peruhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 - This guide04:37
Ace2016evsophomore2009: what are you trying to do? compile pidgin from source?04:37
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Lunar_Lamp!dns04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
BrianDonohue!dhclient04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
evsophomore2009Ace2016: im trying to just install Gaim so i can use that instead of Kopete04:38
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intelikeyevsophomore2009 sudo apt-get install gaim04:38
Jucatoevsophomore2009: "sudo apt-get install gaim" is all you need04:38
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Jucatoor you can use Add/Remove Programs for that04:38
Lunar_LampIs it possible to flush the dns records on my laptop? The url of a particular site is pointing to the wrong IP, and I know that it works fine for other people, I've just got the wrong one cached I think - can I get it to update?04:38
Ace2016evsophomore2009: gaim is outdated you should install pidgin, gaim changed its name to pidgin04:38
evsophomore2009Reading package lists... Done04:38
evsophomore2009Building dependency tree04:38
evsophomore2009Reading state information... Done04:38
evsophomore2009E: Couldn't find package giam04:38
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shane2peruevsophomore2009, it is gaim04:39
francesco_!it04:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:39
intelikeymain not in the sources.list04:39
shane2perunot giam04:39
evsophomore2009lol oh yeah04:39
JucatoAce2016: pidgin isn't available yet on feisty04:39
Ace2016yea i compiled it myself04:39
Jucatoanyway it's basically the same. just a bit more updated and a new name04:39
shane2peruno samba guru's hanging around???04:39
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Lonetorusshane2peru: how does it fail, look at logs, google the errors you get04:40
Lonetorus:)04:40
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intelikeythe Gnu Aol Instant Messemger gaim04:40
BrianDonohue!#ubuntu04:40
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com04:40
shane2peruLontetorus:  Ok, that would be great, how?  what logs do I need to check?04:40
NickPrestaJucato, are you sure? I don't have any extra repos and I have Pidgin...04:40
shane2peruLonetorus, sorry, mispelled.04:40
xsachaJucato: http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3078/hmmnd2.png <-- apt-setup doesnt exist, apt-get update doesnt change anything04:41
Lonetorusshane2peru: hehe, dunno, i installed ubuntu a few hours ago :D04:41
ardosorry but italian channel is down?04:41
JucatoNickPresta: yes. unless they put it in feisty-backports or feisty-proposed. it isn't in feisty04:41
Lonetorusshane2peru: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch09_01.html04:41
Jucatoxsacha: in Konsole, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"04:42
ardois italian channel down?04:42
xsachaok, didnt seem to do anything -- same error04:42
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intelikeywell #ubuntu-it is not down04:44
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Jucatoxsacha: can you put the errors in pastebin?04:44
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xsachano errors in console04:44
Lonetorusheh, holding my mouse over the trash reports 3 items in trash, if i open trash then it says 900 files04:44
Jucatoxsacha: ok how about "sudo apt-get -f install" of course make sure Adept isn't running in the first place04:45
NickPrestaout of curiosity, how do I find out which repo. a package comes from? I've tried apt-cache showpkg/etc but it doesn't seem to show much more than the author.04:45
Jucatoapt-cache policy <package>04:45
xsachait just says reading package lists, dependancy and so on and then 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.04:45
Jucatoand Adept still won't start upo?04:46
Jucato!adeptfix | xsacha04:46
ubotuxsacha: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:46
Jucatotry that (actually 2) commands04:46
NickPrestaJucato, i tried that for Pidgin and nothing shows. (Does that mean I installed it directly). I see that it works for Firefox and other packages from a repo.04:46
xsachaok04:46
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JucatoNickPresta: yes. it means you most probably compiled it from source04:47
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Jucatoif it's from a .deb package, it will show it as dpkg04:47
xsachaJucato: ok i tried those 2 commands, it has no output, ran adept_manager and received same error :( apt-get works fine though04:47
rO_otJucato: lol you are here too04:48
NickPrestaJucato, I know I didn't compile it from source but I do remember downloading various .debs for guification and such so I most likely grabbed pidgin 2.0.1 from the same place too.04:48
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intelikeyJucato while you are digging in dpkg anyway,  my database has some fictitious entries in it; any way to clean it up ?     dpkg -l lists thing that aren't installed, and haven't been as far as i know...   ?04:51
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shane2peruok, quick question about samba, when I make changes to the config, do I need to reboot the windows box?04:52
DaSkreechDon't irc as rO_ot04:52
shane2peruAlso when adding users, do I use the windows username and password, or the Ubuntu username and password?04:52
xsachaJucato: i just noticed my sudo input has now changed, it says Enter password for [sacha] : or something instead of the usual "Password: "04:53
Jucatointelikey: um.. I'm not really sure. sorry04:53
intelikeyJucato k,  np.04:53
Jucatoxsacha: are you on feisty, btw?04:53
xsachagutsy04:53
Jucatosheesh!04:53
Jucatoyou could have said so earlier :P04:53
xsachak04:53
Jucato#ubuntu+1 and yes it's broken04:53
xsachaaw :(04:53
Jucato(that's what you get for running alpha :)04:54
xsachak, ill stick to apt-get then04:54
Jucatoapt has been upgraded to a new version and adept hasn't been updated to work with it04:55
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Jucatowell, beta and rc1 are definitely better than alpha, don't you think? ;)04:55
intelikeyyeah04:55
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xsachaalpha gusty + alpha kde4 :D + alpha fusion04:56
BrianDonohueI can't wait for Gutsy, personally.04:56
intelikeybut i still wonder why they are in the "stable" release....04:56
LucidFoxSVGs are rendered incorrectly in KDE, how do I fix that?04:56
JucatoBrianDonohue: may I ask why?04:56
DaSkreechFusion?04:56
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hitmanWillyintelikey: probably has something to do with ubuntu being based off the sid branch...04:56
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: Why wait? Dist-upgrade now :)04:57
intelikeyhitmanWilly sure. but that's really not an excuse for such.04:57
xsachaDaSkreech: compiz04:57
shane2perudoes anyone know anything about samba?04:57
DragnslcrHeh, is Gutsy actually usable and something similar to stable yet?04:57
JucatoDaSkreech: do you really want to seriously recommend that?04:57
xsachaDragnslcr: sure, it's stable here.. except that ive just lost adept-manager04:57
JucatoDragnslcr: it's alpha and comes with the usual alpha disclaimers04:57
DragnslcrHeh, losing Adept is kinda major04:58
xsachait had this crash error when i installed it, but i just said ok and continues install04:58
DaSkreechxsacha: Alpha of an alpha ?04:58
DaSkreechxsacha: you have Chutzpah04:58
xsachaDaSkreech: yes04:58
DaSkreechJucato: No but if he can't wait... :)04:58
intelikeyadept major ?    Dragnslcr i can't say that i've ever seen adept but one time....04:58
DaSkreechDragnslcr: Use apt-get :)04:58
JucatoI'm wondering if he's waiting because he's expecting KDE 4 to be in Gutsy04:59
DragnslcrHeh04:59
DaSkreechintelikey: you barely run x04:59
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hitmanWillydon't i remember similar discussions when feisty was on the way out....04:59
intelikeyDaSkreech point is ?04:59
Jucatointelikey: if KDE broke you'd not even be affected...04:59
Jucato:P04:59
rO_otwhen is Gutsy out?04:59
JucatoOctober04:59
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intelikeyJucato true04:59
JucatoUbuntu always releases April and October (unless stated otherwise, like Dapper)04:59
BrianDonohueI don't know, I always get excited.04:59
LeoDioxidedude, my kubuntu boots into a resolution that is out of range, where can I change that?05:00
BrianDonohueAnd no, I'm not waiting for KDE4.05:00
BrianDonohueI'm using Gnome again, Jucato.05:00
BrianDonohueMaybe if 4 makes some changes, then yes.05:00
Jucatonoooo!!05:00
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DragnslcrIs there any definite plan for KDE4 and Gutsy yet? Definitely not, hopefully, definitely waiting, etc.05:00
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: What do you knwo about Gutsy?05:00
rohois it possible to play divx movies in konqueror?05:00
DaSkreechDragnslcr: Yes05:00
xsachaBrianDonohue: what changes?05:00
intelikeyok i'll leave that alone.  but suffice it to say, when there are seven package management tools   as long a dpkg is not broke  it can't be major...05:00
JucatoDragnslcr: KDE 4 will be made available on a separate repository05:00
DaSkreechroho: yes05:00
hitmanWillyLeoDioxide: do you mean the bootscreen itself or the login menu?05:00
coreymon77well05:00
DragnslcrJucato- nice05:00
rohowhich codecs do i need?05:00
coreymon77kde4 is being released in october aswell05:00
LeoDioxidehitmanWilly: login window, it just blackscreens05:00
DragnslcrI know the releases are supposed to be about the same time05:00
DaSkreechhi coreymon7705:01
xsachaDragnslcr: they pacage KDE4 with gusty, but have KDE3 primary05:01
BrianDonohueUhm, Well I'm not looking forward to glossy but.05:01
DaSkreechyeah but after Gutsy05:01
Jucatocoreymon77: which means it won't make it to Gutsy05:01
coreymon77i guess the biggest things about klde4 is its ability to use qt05:01
coreymon77in other words05:01
Jucatonot even in Gutsy+105:01
DragnslcrBut I would image Gutsy will be in freeze by the time KDE4 is final05:01
hitmanWillyLeoDioxide: try a ctrl-alt-bksp when that happens, see what happens05:01
Jucatocoreymon77: KDE uses Qt05:01
coreymon77you can use kde one linux windows and macos completely natively05:01
xsachathey will have KDE beta 4 along side KDE3 in gutsy (so they said)05:01
BrianDonohueAnd compiz/beryl are no longer forked so it'll be nice to see what they do.05:01
xsachabeta 3*?05:01
LeoDioxidehitmanWilly: nothing, I've tried05:01
coreymon77i meant the nwer qt05:01
Jucato!fixres05:01
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:01
Jucatobah not that...05:01
Jucato!xconfig | LeoDioxide05:01
ubotuLeoDioxide: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes05:01
coreymon77it will no longer require x05:02
hitmanWillyLeoDioxide: ok, /etc/X11/xorg.conf has all the settings05:02
DaSkreechYeah05:02
Jucatocoreymon77: what are you talking about?05:02
rohoso what codecs do i need to get divx to play in konqueror?05:02
DaSkreechIt can run on Windows05:02
LeoDioxidehrm.05:02
DaSkreechSo amarok is going to be on Windows :-(05:02
JucatoKDE on Linux still requires X05:02
coreymon77im talking about completely native05:02
intelikey -phigh  ????    uhh05:02
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coreymon77no emulation whatsoever05:02
DaSkreechroho: libxine-extracodecs05:02
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rohoDaSkreech: thanks05:02
Jucatoand no *KDE* itself will not run on Windows05:02
coreymon77kde4 will05:02
Jucatocoreymon77: no05:02
DaSkreechcoreymon77: no05:02
coreymon77Jucato: yes05:03
hitmanWillywtf? oh, great05:03
DaSkreechblast you Jucato05:03
Ace2016isn't it just kdelibs5?05:03
NickPrestaCool stuff like Beryl, Amarok, et al should be kept to GNU+Linux, Solaris, BSD. Screw Windows. If they want what we got so bad, _they_ can switch. =D05:03
coreymon77DaSkreech: yes05:03
BrianDonohueAnd the mobile version... Phewy!05:03
Jucatocoreymon77: *some* KDE *apps* *can be made to run* on Windows05:03
Ace2016that'll work in windows05:03
coreymon77i know05:03
rohoDaSkreech: it's already installed, but divx movies won't play within konqueror05:03
DaSkreechcoreymon77: no KDE apps will kdelibs will05:03
DaSkreech K>D<E05:03
coreymon77but kde 4 will be able to work entirely in winodows05:03
DaSkreechas in desktop environment wont05:03
Jucatocoreymon77: no no no!05:03
xsachaJucato: i thought all Qt4 apps could run on windows.. but of course the window manager, kwin wont05:03
coreymon77Jucato: yes yes yes!05:03
Jucatoxsacha: KDE isn't just Qt4 you know05:03
coreymon77Jucato: ask on the kde channel05:03
coreymon77kde will use qt405:04
Jucatocoreymon77: ask in the KDE developers channel05:04
LeoDioxideyeah, well, I've fixed all my xorg settings, I can run the recovery and startx, just the boot fails05:04
hitmanWillythat would be funny, kde on windows05:04
coreymon77its true05:04
coreymon77it will work05:04
Jucatosheesh05:04
hitmanWillytalk about slow and bulky...05:04
Ace2016hitmanWilly: nope that'd be a good desktop05:04
BrianDonohueNot really hitmanWilly... Because although you'd have a great desktop-environment it's still windows.05:04
Ace2016(for windows)05:04
DaSkreechcoreymon77: again no. KDE APPS can work on windows (withinreason)05:04
coreymon77and it will work entirely on macos05:04
DaSkreechcoreymon77: So you are going to boot up Windows and run alt+f2 ?05:04
xsachalol05:04
coreymon77that will be perfectly native05:04
coreymon77DaSkreech: they will be much more easily ported05:05
DaSkreechWhat they?05:05
Jucatocoreymon77: you don't know what you're talking about. the only KDE apps that can run on windows are those that will have a port on Windows. KDE 4 apps will not magically run on Windows05:05
coreymon77DaSkreech: the terminal, of course not05:05
BrianDonohueYeah, but if it's on Windows I'll cry because people will try it out, associate the windows problems with KDE and not use KDE when they switch to Linux.05:05
DaSkreechcoreymon77: you aren't talking about a they. You are talking about the desktop environment05:05
xsachaof course you cant get rid of the windows stuff thats on there (taskbar and such), so kde on windows would just contribute to more memory hogging and bloat unfortunately05:05
coreymon77oaky05:05
coreymon77w/e05:05
LeoDioxidecan't replace explorer with kde?05:05
coreymon77maybe not windows05:05
coreymon77but macos definitely05:05
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Jucatosame thing on mac...05:06
BrianDonohuecoreymon77: If windows opened up it's API then maybe you could develop another DE, but explorer is set and completely integrated with everything.05:06
xsachaLeoDioxide: would be good if you could05:06
coreymon77Jucato: kde already works on macos05:06
hitmanWillywell, kde is slim by redmond standards, but it plus the underlying windows environment seems like too much overhead to me05:06
coreymon77Jucato: you ever heard of fink05:06
coreymon77?05:06
DaSkreechcoreymon77: screencast it on your blog and I'll watch05:06
BrianDonohuehitmanWilly: Definitely.05:06
Sothaccording to the kde wiki they are looking for more help porting kde to windows... so it looks like there will at some point be kde on windows05:06
LeoDioxidehow do I check if my video card has acceleration?05:06
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coreymon77see! i was right!05:07
NickPrestaLeoDioxide, `glxinfo | grep direct`.05:07
coreymon77and kde and most kde programs already work on macos05:07
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LeoDioxidedirect rendering, no.05:07
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LeoDioxidedirect renderer string: mesa glx05:07
coreymon77anyways05:08
coreymon77enough about that05:08
BrianDonohueIt's funny Jucato: I'm using Gnome but Konversation. I prefer it.05:08
Sothand the last change on the page was the 12th of this month so it doesn't appear to have just been a flash in the pan type of idea that went away heh05:08
hitmanWillycoreymon77: that's because mac is a unix environment, so the libs install cleaner and without as much hacking05:08
Jucatocoreymon77: not without porting. there will always be porting. they will not just work magically on all platforms05:08
coreymon77Jucato: its called fink05:08
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crdlbLeoDioxide, what video card?05:08
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LeoDioxideati radeon x70005:09
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crdlbLeoDioxide, feisty?05:09
LeoDioxideyup, 64 bit05:09
crdlbLeoDioxide, glxinfo|grep client05:09
puppyuser2007046DaSkreech: hi!!! that jhutchins wn't give me my password!!!! :(05:09
intelikeylooks like i'll be busy today.    later fellows05:09
LeoDioxideSGI, 1.405:09
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: hi You don't need it.05:10
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: do you have sudo ?05:10
BrianDonohueAnyone try "pendrivelinux"? I couldn't get Ubuntu to boot off of it yesterday so I just installed that instead. If anyone has any knowledge about Ubuntu on a pendrive, help me :D05:10
BrianDonohueAnd I mean the live version, not just installing it to the PD.05:10
puppyuser2007046i don't know anything i want the password05:10
crdlbLeoDioxide, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:10
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: can you open a terminal and type sudo ?05:10
puppyuser2007046in puppy??05:11
LeoDioxidepastebin?05:11
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: yes05:11
BrianDonohue!kubuntu05:11
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE05:11
BrianDonohuePuppy doesn't use sudo, does it?05:11
LeoDioxide!pastebin05:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:11
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DaSkreechBrianDonohue: I have no clue that's why I'm asking05:11
BrianDonohueAs far as I know, it doesn't.05:12
puppyuser2007046sudo: can't stst /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory05:12
DaSkreechhmm05:12
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DaSkreechok05:12
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DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: you have a Kubuntu live cd ?05:12
puppyuser2007046why do u allow such people in the community anyway??????????????05:12
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puppyuser2007046yes i have kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu live cds05:13
LeoDioxidecrdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26696/05:13
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: boot up in one of them05:13
BrianDonohuepuppyuser2007046: try #puppylinux... I just joined in there, they seem nice too and may have some more info for you05:13
rO_otguys do you prefer DigiKam or F-Spot?05:14
puppyuser2007046BrianDonohue: i AM using the puppy linux live cd right now05:14
rO_otI am debating05:14
crdlbLeoDioxide, you need to add Load "dri" to the modules section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:14
puppyuser2007046a stupid guy from your channel did the ssh thing on my ubuntu and changd the password..he won't give it now05:14
BrianDonohueI mean, try their CHANNEL lol05:14
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DaSkreechBrianDonohue: He wants to reset his password05:15
BrianDonohueOh.05:15
BrianDonohueLol.05:15
LeoDioxidecrdlb: ok thanks05:15
starhawkhi05:15
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: can you open a root terminal ?05:15
NickPrestapuppyuser2007046, why did you allow a stranger to login via ssh to your machine?05:15
LeoDioxidecrdlb: any idea on why my login screen messes up, but I can run KDE fine?05:15
puppyuser2007046in puppy??? there's somethng called console05:15
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: no option for a root console ?05:15
DaSkreechcan you su ?05:15
BrianDonohueUhm, yeah, I have to chastise you for that... Why the HELL would you let some one login to your machine?05:15
crdlbLeoDioxide, nope, maybe a different resolution?05:15
puppyuser2007046NickPresta: well i thought all u guys are there 2 help05:16
LeoDioxidecrdlb: yeah, it's out of range and I don't know where that is set (btw, already have load dri)05:16
BrianDonohueYeah, most of us are, but don't trust too much.05:16
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: cause he doesn't want to type in commands himself05:16
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hitmanWillypuppyuser2007046: there's no one checking for bad guys at the door here :P05:16
starhawkI am having a problem with adept after my last update its missing how can I get it back05:17
puppyuser2007046i hav got to, i am new 2 linux and dunno abc of it.....and both linux and linux helpers are creating a very nice impression05:17
crdlbLeoDioxide, your log said you didn't05:17
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LeoDioxidecrdlb: maybe it isn't loading from my xorg.conf then?05:17
puppyuser2007046that asshole's online right now...can't u just kick him out???05:17
BrianDonohueWell we'll do our best to help you, just don't do anything dumb again.05:17
hitmanWillystarhawk: running gutsy?05:17
DaSkreechjhutchins: ping05:17
starhawkyes05:17
crdlbLeoDioxide, pastebin your xorg.conf05:17
puppyuser2007046ok05:17
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hitmanWillystarhawk: its a known bug, apt changed versions, adept didn't05:18
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: do you know puppy?05:18
crdlbstarhawk, #ubuntu+105:18
BrianDonohueDaSkreech: I've got it on my other flash drive (about 30 seconds ago)05:18
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DaSkreechBrianDonohue: how do you get to root on the live ?05:18
starhawkwheres that at05:18
BrianDonohueDon't know yet, haven't even booted it!05:19
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puppyuser2007046DaSkreech: BrianDonohue: hitmanWilly: can any of you help me reset my password if i boot vis my ubuntu / kubuntu/edubuntu live cds??05:19
BrianDonohueWell, you need root access to that set up to change your password or add another user.05:19
LeoDioxidecrdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26697/05:19
puppyuser2007046so the only solution's to reinstall??05:20
BrianDonohueUhm, not sure, you could bruteforce the password?05:20
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: no if you have a live Cd it's easy05:20
puppyuser2007046what???05:20
BrianDonohueDid you try "jhutchins"?05:20
BrianDonohueListen to DaSkreech, I have no clue.05:20
puppyuser2007046yep i hav got loads of live cds05:20
BrianDonohueI want to know this too though.05:20
puppyuser2007046yeah i hav askd him and he's avoiding05:21
BrianDonohuehitmanWilly: How do I disable sudo anyway?05:21
DaSkreechpuppyuser2007046: I can walk it through easier with the Kubuntu05:21
BrianDonohuepuppyuser2007046: Reboot with your Kubuntu liveCD then come back.05:21
puppyuser2007046ok, wait a minute..let me boot in through kubuntu05:21
puppyuser2007046i will ashu18, ok?????05:21
puppyuser2007046i will be ashu18, ok???05:22
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BrianDonohueWhat a hilarious situation.05:22
DaSkreechvery05:22
BrianDonohuePoor guy though.05:22
DaSkreechhe refuses to open a terminal and run anything05:22
BrianDonohuelol05:23
DaSkreechand then gives out his password to get the problem fixed05:23
BrianDonohueYeah... Basic internet safety.05:23
DaSkreechfar as i knwo jhutchins  sshed in fixed the issue then changed his password so that non one else could get in05:23
DaSkreechcause his Mom woke up and he had to run05:23
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BrianDonohueHe gave out his password IN THE ROOM!>05:24
BrianDonohue!?05:24
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DaSkreechYeah05:25
DaSkreechcause he refused to register with nickserv05:25
DaSkreechit would take too long05:25
os2macanyone familiar with WiSpy?05:25
BrianDonohue*Sigh*05:25
BrianDonohueDolt05:25
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DaSkreechBrianDonohue: tell me about it05:26
DaSkreechFunny part is in three years he's going to be laughing his head off at people like him05:26
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xsachaLOL@me 3 years ago05:26
michael_mi cant connect to a opensuse irc-is anyone familiar with opensuse?????????05:26
michael_mim running kubuntu right now05:26
ashu18hey i am back05:26
BrianDonohueAll of were new at one point.05:27
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Jucatomichael_m: #opensuse or #opensuse-kde05:27
michael_mjucato  either cus im just trying to install it05:27
DaSkreechashu18: ok tell me a little about your harrd drive05:27
ashu18DaSkreech:walk me throuh the steps05:27
DaSkreechis there anything on it other than ubuntu ?05:27
ashu18nope, just ubuntu05:28
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DaSkreechashu18: ok one hard drive ?05:28
ashu18yes, only one 40GB hard drive05:28
DaSkreechok05:28
LeoDioxidecrdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26697/05:29
DaSkreechashu18: open a konsole and type mkdir repair05:29
ashu18now what??05:29
ashu18the prompt line is back05:30
DaSkreechashu18: sudo mount /dev/hda1 repair05:31
BrianDonohueThen that means that command is finished, and DaSkreech will give you the next one.05:31
crdlbLeoDioxide, have you fully restarted X after adding Load "dri"?05:31
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LeoDioxidecrdlb: it was in there the first time I loaded it05:31
ashu18mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist05:31
crdlbLeoDioxide, try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri05:32
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BrianDonohueIt's probably sda105:32
DaSkreechashu18: right sudo mount /dev/sda1 repair05:32
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ashu18k it's done...prompt's back05:33
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BrianDonohueashu18: stay patient, he'll be back.05:35
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DaSkreechashu18: ls repair05:36
DaSkreechNo idea what just happened ?05:36
DaSkreechThe machine slowed waaaay down then whhen I came back this chan was gone05:36
Lonetorusyay05:37
Lonetorusopen transport tycoon runs now05:37
Lonetorus\o/05:37
ashu18bin  boot  cdrom  dev  etc  home  initrd  initrd.img  lib  lost+found  media  mnt  opt  proc  root  sbin  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var  vmlinuz05:37
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DaSkreechashu18: sweet :-)05:38
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DaSkreechsudo chroot repair05:38
DaSkreechashu18: then type passwd <yourusernameonubuntu>05:38
DaSkreechit will ask you for a password twice. Don't use the same one you had before05:39
ashu18i think i am root now???05:39
DaSkreechashu18: yes you are05:39
DaSkreechashu18: see the # ?05:39
DaSkreechthat means you are root05:39
DaSkreechonce you put in the new password05:39
ashu18whoa!!! it's gonna work??????????/05:39
DaSkreechfor the user on ubuntu you can reboot the cd05:39
DaSkreechashu18: yeah it is05:40
ashu18thank u soooooooooooooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!105:40
DaSkreechas I said it's real easy05:40
BrianDonohueCan anyone help me turn off automounting of USB drives?05:40
ashu18well it ws propbably really easy 4 u...05:40
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: ha ha ashu18 wants to turn on automounting05:40
BrianDonohueDaSkreech: It's a pain in the effing ass.05:40
BrianDonohueEspecially for fooling around with paritions on flash-drives and stuff.05:41
DaSkreechashu18: anything is real easy if you know how05:41
ashu18btw has that justchin (or whatever) guy repaired that cd rom prob????????????05:41
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DaSkreechashu18: You will find out when you reboot05:41
ashu18k, wait a min i will b back in ubuntu05:42
BrianDonohueYou just made that guy's day, DaSkreech05:42
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: not even close to close05:42
BrianDonohueI also learned that you don't have to type someones full name. I feel smart now. Konversation is just like Konsole :D05:43
LeoDioxideLonetorus: openTTD rox05:43
Lonetorusindeed it does05:43
BrianDonohueWhat is it?05:43
Lonetorusi played the original back in 199505:43
LeoDioxidetransport tycoon, ONLINE05:43
BrianDonohueWhat is it?05:43
Lonetorusits a transportation simulation05:43
BrianDonohueNeat!05:43
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LeoDioxidelots of fun, you transport stuff to make money05:43
Lonetorusa financial game, where you build and manage a transportation company05:44
LeoDioxidebut you need to put many hours into it, which is why I stopped playing05:44
DaSkreech!tab | BrianDonohue05:44
ubotuBrianDonohue: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:44
BrianDonohueI know, I found that out DaSkreech05:44
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ashu18hell befall on that guy...he has practically done NOTHING05:44
DaSkreechEverythign is easy once you know how05:45
Lonetorusheh05:45
ashu18anyway thanks 2 u DaSkreech and u too BrianDonohue05:46
BrianDonohueNp. I'm only 4 nooblevels above you. DaSkreech is like 4 above me, haha.05:46
ashu18i m in linux montessori05:46
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BrianDonohueThis is something I want to let everyone know.05:47
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ashu18#ubuntu is so much crowded05:48
BrianDonohueSlightly elitist.05:48
BrianDonohueMaybe someone should post for them the Freenode Channel Guidelines.05:48
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ashu18DaSkreech: can u ssh into my system and check out the cd rom problem???05:49
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: You are using konversation it autojoins here anyway :-)05:49
BrianDonohueOh.05:49
BrianDonohueYeah.05:49
BrianDonohueashu18: Do you ever learn?05:49
ashu18just tell me hoe 2 register so that i can send u a private message05:49
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DaSkreechJucato: ping :)05:49
ashu18yeah i do and i think i do trust u guys05:49
Lonetoruso_O05:49
Lonetorusi would not trust a stranger with access to my box05:50
Lonetorusno exceptions05:50
Jucatohuh?05:50
BrianDonohueMaybe if you slept with his mom and made them breakfast you could trust them, but yeah.05:50
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ashu18my box is empty...i havn't even updated it......it will be completely same if i reinstall05:50
Jucato!register | ashu1805:50
DaSkreechJucato: ashu18 needs helps getting a cdrom (well anycdrom) to auto mount05:50
ubotuashu18: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:51
JucatoDaSkreech: oh.. I'm not that good there :)05:51
BrianDonohueWhy doesn't it automount to begin with anyway?05:51
ashu18as well as manual mount05:51
Lonetorusyeah ok, if its a clean box05:51
Lonetorusthen maybe reinstall right after the visit :D05:51
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Lonetorusor use something like watch(8) if something like that is available in linux05:51
Lonetorus(interactive monitoring of ttys)05:52
ashu18what's watch(8) ????05:52
Lonetoruson unix05:52
DaSkreechJucato: Oh I don't think manual mounting works either05:53
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ashu18hey tell me how to register05:55
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JucatoI already did!05:55
Jucato<ubotu> ashu18: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:55
ashu18well i was disconnected05:55
Jucatothat was before you got disconnected :)05:55
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ashu18but i lost the link05:56
Lonetorushow do i modify (add) to the applications menu?05:58
Lonetorusi would like to stick a shortcut there to open transport tycoon05:58
trprright click on the K -> menu editor05:59
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BrianDonohueLol, I went out for a smoke, come back in, start walking towards my bedroom with the laptop (I was in the kitchen) and the damn thing went to sleep on me because of critical battery05:59
Lonetorusahh, got it, thx06:00
ashu18DaSkreech: how on earth do i send u the password??06:01
DaSkreech!register06:01
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:01
ashu18ubotu: shut up06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shut up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
ashu18ubotu is funny.........lol06:02
Lonetorussend it in a query (private msg)06:02
ashu18!register06:02
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:02
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rohois it possible to redirect server messages in konversation into the active window06:03
roholike with /whois06:03
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DaSkreechroho: what ?06:03
rohowell, all the server output goes into the server tabs.  i want it in the active window06:04
rohoso when i whois someone, i don't have to change tabs to see the output06:04
DaSkreechroho: as far as i know when you /whois someone in konversation it appends it in chan06:04
rohoit doesn't do that with me06:05
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ashu18DaSkreech: the password is reverse of what it was yesterday.....do u remember yesterdays' passwd??06:06
ashu18and plz do the ssh thing quicky and change the passwd06:06
ashu18and tell me06:06
DaSkreechashu18: yes06:06
ashu18i don't want that jhut guy to butt in again06:06
ashu18plz be quick06:07
BrianDonohueI think he was trying to help and ran out of time and didn't want anyone else in, I don't think he was out to be malicious.06:07
ashu18BrianDonohue: i dunno why u all are idolizing him but he is still avoiding me06:08
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BrianDonohueHe's not here.06:08
ashu18jhutchins: give me my password ;)06:08
BrianDonohueHe's also avoiding everyone else.06:08
ashu18he's here06:08
BrianDonohueYeah, in the room, but not here.06:08
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ashu18DaSkreech: plz do it quick06:09
rohowho is "him"?06:09
BrianDonohueJhutchins.06:09
rohook, not me :D06:10
ashu18BrianDonohue: is DaSkreech in my system right now???06:10
BrianDonohueI don't know, lmao.06:11
DaSkreechashu18: yes and I changed the password06:11
ashu18i had another guy from #ubuntu do that ssh thing and he could actually talk with me in the Terminal!!!06:11
DaSkreechYeah I can too :)06:11
ashu18plz do06:13
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ashu18it's really weird!!!!!!!06:13
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rohoit's called talk06:13
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rohoDaSkreech: tell ashu18 how to secure his/her system.06:13
ashu18roho: i am a 'his'06:13
tOOtalinfosorry06:13
ashu18:)06:13
tOOtalinfohi06:13
DaSkreechNow I forgot what was the problem? :-)06:13
tOOtalinfomy SATA drive isn't being recognize06:13
ashu18DaSkreech: just type all the command in the world and see why my cds won't mount06:13
ashu18tell me when to insert a cd06:13
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DaSkreechgo ahead06:15
ashu18now?06:15
DaSkreechyeah06:15
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ashu18there's one cd in the cd rom now06:15
ashu18that kubuntu live cd06:15
ashu18it's not mounting, aint??06:17
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DaSkreechI can see it06:17
ashu18whoa!!!! u did it???????????????????????????????????????????????06:18
DaSkreechit's in /media/cdrom06:18
ashu18:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*06:18
ashu18:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*:-*06:18
DaSkreechstop that06:18
ashu18wait i am putting another cd06:18
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ashu18it doesn't mount this one06:19
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david_alguien habla en espaol06:20
ashu18plz do something so that it will automount??06:20
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DaSkreech!es06:20
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:20
david_ok06:20
DaSkreechI can't even make that one force moutn06:20
DaSkreechmount06:20
DaSkreechhow scratched is it ?06:20
ashu18very clean06:20
ashu18ok, let me put another one.....06:21
ashu18a blank one this time06:21
DaSkreechk06:22
hagabakawas putting in your CD doing that :-*:-*:-* thing? :D06:22
ashu18hurrah!!06:22
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ashu18will it auto mount now??06:23
DaSkreechNot sure06:23
ashu18a video cd this time06:24
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ashu18can u find the problem??06:24
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DaSkreechSort of. I'm at work now and trying to do this and a meeting at the same time06:25
BrianDonohueGuys, I'm out for the night.06:26
BrianDonohueTalk to you all later.06:26
ashu18oh.......06:26
DaSkreechBrianDonohue: night06:26
ashu18why didn't u tell me then???? i am irritating u06:26
ashu18BrianDonohue: good night!!06:26
ashu18DaSkreech: ok, i m going too.....when will u be free and available?06:27
DaSkreechashu18: https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/9586806:27
DaSkreechthis page looks lke it could help06:28
DaSkreechashu18: and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41482506:28
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ashu18i guess i am understanding parts of it.....anyway, plz tell when u will be free06:30
ashu18my problem is a blown up version of that bug...their kubuntu is at least auto mounting something06:31
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pb_.06:34
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DaSkreechashu18: if it helps you can throw out for help in #ubuntu as well06:37
DaSkreechWho makes your drive?06:37
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rohowhy can't girls like linux? i'd do free tech support for a girl06:40
roho(without a moustache)06:41
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netdaemonjust wondering...what are some of the reasons to use kde over gnome?06:52
netdaemoni can't decide for the life of me which to use =\06:53
DaSkreechroho: so what if she did have a moustache?06:53
DaSkreechnetdaemon: less memory usage06:53
rohoi dunno'06:54
rohosex with a girl with a moustache isn't my thing06:54
netdaemonDaSkreech, anything other than that?06:54
DaSkreechroho: you said tech support06:54
DaSkreechnetdaemon: KDE4 :)06:55
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pjdiddoes anyone know any "GOOD" screen capture recording programs for linux06:55
netdaemonDaSkreech, havn't tried it yet =(06:55
rohooh, did i?06:55
DaSkreechrecordmydesktop seems to be the new fling06:55
DaSkreechnetdaemon: you can when Gutsy comes out06:55
netdaemonsweet06:56
netdaemonwill it be default?06:56
DaSkreechNope :)06:56
DaSkreechWe would be nuts06:56
pjdidhave you used it?06:57
DaSkreechbut we will have a unsupported KDE4 Cd06:57
DaSkreechpjdid: no I haven't. As i said it seems to be the new rage06:57
DaSkreech Someone uses it at work06:57
netdaemonhmmm06:57
netdaemonthat might be enough reason to use it...06:57
DaSkreechnetdaemon: katapult :)06:57
netdaemonhow would i go about getting kopete to let me set my own alias like gaim/pidgin does?06:58
netdaemonglobal identity dosn't seem to work =\06:58
DaSkreechNot sure. I'm not too into kopete06:58
netdaemonand whats katapult?06:58
DaSkreech I suffer it06:59
DaSkreechnetdaemon: are you in KDE?06:59
netdaemonnot at the moment06:59
netdaemonon a slow connection, so it'd be hard to maintain both06:59
netdaemongnomes little hide things from the user gets on my nerves a bit...and the lack of konqueror...07:00
netdaemonbut the interface is a bit cleaner =\07:00
DaSkreechnetdaemon: ah. press alt+space in kubuntu and smile a lot :)07:00
netdaemonhmmm07:00
netdaemonwhat does it do ._.?07:00
DaSkreechnetdaemon: you can pull out anything that you don't like from the KDE interface07:00
DaSkreech!katapult07:01
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.07:01
netdaemonnot quite the same as alt+f2?07:02
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DaSkreechnot quite the same no :)07:02
netdaemonhrm07:04
netdaemoni wonders...07:04
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estebanbianchihey07:06
estebanbianchii need some help witj adept07:06
estebanbianchiit seems to be vlocked by an a terminal or ap-get activity07:06
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netdaemonany way to skip downloading the package lists on the kubuntu install?07:06
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DaSkreech!adept crash fix07:08
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:08
pb_Hello07:08
DaSkreechnetdaemon: know anyone with quickish type net ?07:09
pb_Just installed Kubuntu 7.04 over my windows XP install, it's working great, no problems07:09
pb_but I was wondering, how much is involved with using Beryl/Compiz?07:09
DaSkreech!beryl07:10
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects07:10
netdaemonDaSkreech, yeah but thats a lot of gas money, lol07:10
DaSkreechBy using I assume you mean installing07:10
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xsacha!compiz-fusion07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
DaSkreechnetdaemon: ha ha How much to call them ?07:10
DaSkreechOr IM?07:10
Kprofthreatpb_: Do you use an Nvidia or ATI card?07:10
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pb_Yes, installing/configuring. I'm not unfamiliar with installations and the like07:11
pb_I have an ATI Radeon07:11
KprofthreatAh07:11
netdaemonDaSkreech, not to much07:11
pb_I pulled it out of my ex-main windows XP box07:11
KprofthreatThen it's going to be a little trickier for you.07:11
pb_rats07:11
DaSkreechpb_: Much easier now but you have to have a compositing Which means installing drivers07:11
KprofthreatYes07:11
DaSkreech!ati07:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:11
KprofthreatIn fact07:11
pb_rgr07:11
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estebanbianchi!adept07:12
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:12
estebanbianchi!adept crash fix07:12
KprofthreatHere's your one stop answer, pb_07:12
Kprofthreathttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon07:12
underdog5004I've got rtorrent on my server. The directory it's writing the downloaded files to is just about full. I'm going to get another harddrive for my downloads, but I still want to be able to use the other one. I want rtorrent to see (and upload) files from my old hd while downloading/uploading to my new hd. Any ideas?07:12
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:12
pb_I've spent a few hours reading up on the ATI installation on the web, but I thought I'd ping you folks to see what you all might have to add07:12
KprofthreatAlthough I would keep the driver guide and another guide open just for help07:12
KprofthreatWell, first07:13
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KprofthreatCheck to make sure your card supports 3D rendering07:13
DaSkreechnetdaemon: call them and get them to download two cds for you :)07:13
pb_Kprofthreat, thanks for the link, it's one that I hadn't come across, going to check it out07:13
netdaemonDaSkreech, i have both ubuntu and kubuntu though, the problem is picking which one to use =S07:13
Kprofthreatpb_: glxinfo | grep direct in your konsole07:14
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: mount the new hard drive as a sub folder of the download folder07:14
DaSkreechpb_: ping #ubuntu-effects07:14
DaSkreechthey are the masters :)07:14
underdog5004DaSkreech, you are a genius07:14
KprofthreatAsk for crdlib, he helped get my beryl running fully again07:15
KprofthreatAnd watch out for the bug that causes your window borders to disappear07:15
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underdog5004but there is still the problem of two different dirs for rtorrent to look in07:15
DaSkreechnetdaemon: oh you have the kubuntu live cd ?07:15
netdaemoni do indeed07:15
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: far as I know it's not a big deal07:16
Kprofthreatpb_: Do you know how to restart x?07:16
underdog5004DaSkreech, what do you mean?07:16
netdaemoni used the schools bandwidth to get both before semester ended, hehe07:16
pb_Kprofthreat, I ran the glxinfo07:16
Chanimeh, I'm not used to using a binary distro... how do I figure out what packages these dependencies are in?  configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+ >= 1.2.0 imlibgdk >= 1.9.0) not met;07:16
KprofthreatAnd07:16
pb_it gave a copious amount of information07:16
DaSkreechnetdaemon: I'd say go with kubuntu for three reasons. One is you are interested in KDE4 so might as well get some history07:16
underdog5004I'll still have files in /Downlads, but I'll also have more stuff in /Downloads/Other_Downloads07:16
DaSkreechnetdaemon: two is we are much nicer than #ubuntu shhhh :)07:16
DaSkreechunderdog5004: if it's already downloaded then rtorrent should have no problem seeding it07:17
netdaemonah i'm pretty good support for myself, been a *nix user for 4 years, hehe07:17
Chanimm, kde407:17
DaSkreechyou can move them all into one folder as well if you keep the .torrent around07:17
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netdaemonDaSkreech, and 3?07:17
draikAnyone here work Tech Support and use Remedy at work?07:17
draikAnyone heard of Remedy for Linux?07:17
DaSkreechnetdaemon: and three if you want to go to ubuntu it's a one liner to remove all thigns KDE07:17
underdog5004DaSkreech, right, but I'm going to have to change dirs in the config file to reflect the new hd, basically, I can only point rtorrent to one of the dirs07:18
DaSkreechnot anywhere near that easy for gnome07:18
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netdaemonDaSkreech, i was thinking of the poor packagers that have to package gnome07:18
DaSkreechnetdaemon: who cares about support? We are nice ;-)07:18
netdaemonlol07:18
DaSkreechunderdog5004: again. it's easy to move them over and still keep them seeding07:19
netdaemonktorrent is yummy too....07:19
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underdog5004DaSkreech, but the problem there is that I don't use both disks for storage....07:20
netdaemonktorrent and konqueror...07:20
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wolferinewhats the 'normal' thing to do when Bash scripting, use the .bash extension or is something else more suited for an extension?07:20
DaSkreechunderdog5004: partiton?07:20
underdog5004DaSkreech, not following you...make a lvm thing?07:21
DaSkreechunderdog5004: or that07:21
netdaemonwell i'm out07:21
netdaemonthanks for the help DaSkreech07:21
underdog5004I don't understand, though. I'm sorry, I'm pretty tired...07:21
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underdog5004Could you explain a bit more?07:22
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: I really don't know exactly what you are planning but I'm letting you know that it can work :)07:23
underdog5004lol, ok07:23
ldb__is ubuntu.com down?07:23
underdog5004I've got /dev/hda3 dedicated to bt stuff. I want to add a drive (say, /dev/hdb1). I want rtorrent to seed the files that are on /dev/hda3, but also download new files to /dev/hdb107:24
underdog5004does that make sense?07:24
Jucatoldb__: works ok here07:24
ldb__k thanks07:25
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Chanihuh. aptitude search imlibgdk returns nothing.07:26
JucatoChani: what are you looking for?07:28
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ChaniJucato: dependencies for some source code07:28
Jucatowhat is it saying that's missing?07:29
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ChaniI pasted earl;ier... just a sec, I may have eliminated some07:29
Jucatomaybe you're looking for imlib11-dev?07:29
Jucato!Info imlib11-dev07:29
ubotuimlib11-dev: Imlib is an imaging library for X and X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.14-32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 288 kB07:29
Chaniaha, it configures now07:29
Jucatothere's also07:30
Chaniit was gdk-imlibsomething07:30
Jucato!info gdk-imlib11-dev07:30
ubotugdk-imlib11-dev: Header files needed for Gdk-Imlib development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.14-32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 256 kB07:30
Jucatoyeah :)07:30
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DaSkreech:-)07:30
underdog5004DaSkreech, any more ideas?07:31
DaSkreechunderdog5004: sorry. what about?07:31
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underdog5004I've got /dev/hda3 dedicated to bt stuff. I want to add a drive (say, /dev/hdb1). I want rtorrent to seed the files that are on /dev/hda3, but also download new files to /dev/hdb107:31
wolferinewhat are we working on tonight ppls?07:31
underdog5004wolferine, me07:31
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underdog5004lol, I want rtorrent to seed from one folder and d/l to another07:32
underdog5004basically07:32
DaSkreechunderdog5004: how much space on /dev/hdb1 ?07:32
ashu18DaSkreech: hey give me the password....i forgot to ask u!!!!!!!!!07:32
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DaSkreechashu18: Yeah you logged off07:32
underdog5004DaSkreech, probably 200, same as the other drive07:32
ashu18yep this ubuntu hangs so often...there is no option but to restart....practically everything stops working07:32
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rohanthere are going to be no kubuntu packages for amarok 1.4.6 ?07:35
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ashu18DaSkreech: can u ssh in now?? i am free...hopefully this ubuntu won't hang too...u were probably in the midst of somethng when i restarted??07:37
wolferinerohan, is it stable?07:37
rohanwolferine: yes, released07:37
DaSkreechashu18: yeah07:37
wolferineis it stable though?07:37
wolferineu could possibly find it on SoS07:38
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wolferine'ubuntu repos sos'07:38
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ashu18the kubuntu cd's in there07:38
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ashu18do whatever u want07:39
ashu18nd jst pray that ubuntu won't hang07:39
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rohanwolferine: you mean medibuntu ?07:39
michael__GOD why does the damn process table NEVER WORK!!!!!!!!!07:40
underdog5004michael__, chill out07:40
underdog5004what's the problem?07:40
michael__im sorry, but lately ubuntu has been pissing me off enough to make me want to switch back to windows07:40
michael__when ever i do ctrl esc, the process table shows up, all the values for memory are like 8888888888 and no procs are listed07:40
wolferinerohan,  some repos may have 'newer' releases, thats all I am saying07:41
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underdog5004michael__, weird...I really don't know much about it...are you on some exotic hardware?07:41
michael__no07:41
michael__it works some times07:41
michael__and then sometims it doesnt work07:41
wolferinekeyboard setup properly?07:41
michael__it drives me insane07:41
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DaSkreechashu18: Hung again?07:42
ashu18nope07:42
wolferinewell.. you do appear to be losing it07:42
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DaSkreechashu18: Hmm07:42
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ashu18the cd's in there; can't u force mount it??07:42
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DaSkreechHOld on07:43
Edulixmichael__: maybe it's a bug in that software07:43
Edulixyou could try another one07:43
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Edulixlike.. top, or gnome-sytem-monitor07:43
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underdog5004or top07:43
Edulixunderdog5004: top or top? hehe07:44
underdog5004whoops07:44
DaSkreechfreaky07:44
michael__should that be in aptget07:44
Edulixmichael__: you probably have top installed, but it's for console07:44
DaSkreechif I sudo anything with the cddrive it hangs07:44
Edulixyou might prefer gnome-system-monitor if you like GUI07:44
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blargonHi y'all!07:45
Edulixhehe he's gone07:45
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Daisuke_Idoamarok and arts just took a sabbatical :\07:46
axg123what07:46
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Daisuke_Idomassive crash i can't get either one to recover from07:46
ashu18DaSkreech: well i got stuck again!!! this is really dung man!!!!!! how can linux dream of luring windows users with all these rubbish?//07:47
DaSkreechashu18: it hung again ?07:48
ashu18yep, i restarted, aint?07:48
DaSkreechyeah07:48
DaSkreechYou need some driver help07:49
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ashu18the entire system freezes, inclusing the mouse, keyboard, cd-rom and all....i have NO option07:49
rohanashu18: arrey tera problem kya hai ? kya ho raha hai ? kyon bhadak raha hai linux pe !07:49
Daisuke_Ido!en | rohan07:49
uboturohan: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:49
wolferine!ru | rohan07:49
uboturohan:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:49
wolferinehehe07:49
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rohanlol07:49
rohanwolferine: it was not russian :P07:49
wolferineyeah07:49
wolferine:P07:49
rohanashu18: so, when does the computer hang ?07:49
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wolferinelooks russian to me07:49
ashu18rohan: say what dear ubotu hs got 4 u07:49
ashu18DaSkreech: u can ssh in again....until it hangs07:50
DaSkreechashu18: I'm in already07:50
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ashu18rohan: it practically hangs EVERY half an hour or so...i just dunno why07:50
rohanashu18: is it a laptop ?07:50
rohanor a desktop ?07:50
ashu18nope a desktop07:50
rohanashu18: ok, can you paste the dmesg output somewhere ?07:51
ashu18pastebin??07:51
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rohanyes, that or rafb.net/paste07:51
DaSkreechrohan: I'll do it07:51
rohanDaSkreech: ok07:51
Edulixashu18: I had a similar problem, but I couldn't see what was happening because when rebooting, the log was not here (I had to push the reboot button)07:52
ashu18rohan: DaSkreech is in my system right now...so he ll explain better07:52
Edulixashu18: do you have a samsung cd drive? :P07:52
ashu18Edulix: same here :(07:52
rohanEdulix: my god, i was going to ask the same thing !07:52
ashu18Edulix: Yes!!!!07:52
Edulixrohan: hehe07:52
rohanashu18: which drive ?07:52
rohanashu18: samsung drives and libata are known to cause lots of timeouts on system07:52
Edulixrohan: I have one too. I found a simple solution: just don't use it lol07:52
ashu18rohan: whatwhich drive??07:53
rohanEdulix: no, the solution is to update the firmware07:53
Edulixrohan: uhm07:53
rohanashu18: which drive do you have ? just upgrade the firmware ..07:53
ashu18rohan: it gave no trouble with Windows07:53
Edulixruham: how to do that? I'd like to have my cd back hehe07:53
rohanhave a look - http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831607:53
rohanashu18: yes, that's known too07:53
Daisuke_Idoashu18: LNW.  Linux is Not Windows.  get used to it.07:53
rohanEdulix: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831607:53
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Daisuke_Idobut at least amarok's working again :D07:54
rohanDaSkreech: can you use lspci and tell me which drive does he have ?07:54
Daisuke_Idoso now i can drift off to sleep to the soothing sounds of sigur ros :)07:54
ashu18rohan: but i hav TSSTCorp H-292A07:54
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Edulixrohan: how to update the firmware in linux?07:55
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ashu18rohan: Edulix: what is firmware??? i am a nerd in linux07:55
Edulixashu18: it's the software that runs inside the cdrom07:56
Edulix(or inside any piece of hardware lol)07:56
wordfirmware isn't just linux07:56
DaSkreechrohan: sorry?07:56
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26704/07:56
ashu18k, so how to update it and all07:56
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Edulixashu18: that was my question xd07:56
rohanDaSkreech: use cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -inq to give me the drive07:57
rohanEdulix: you need to reboot to windows to update the firware, there is to other way07:57
ashu18DaSkreech: shall i take out the cd???07:57
Edulixrohan: to windows? even if I don't have it? :(07:57
rohanor download a freedos bootable disk and hope that your dos flashing program works in freedos, Edulix07:57
Edulixhehe07:58
DaSkreechVendor_info    : 'TSSTcorp'07:58
DaSkreechIdentification : 'CD-R/RW TS-H292A'07:58
rohanbingo !07:58
Edulixrohan: I have a TS-L632D07:58
EdulixDaSkreech: where did you get that info?07:59
Edulixwhich command07:59
ashu18rohan: is this samsung cd-rw the mother of all causes??07:59
rohanyes07:59
EdulixI have a TS-L632D07:59
Edulix:P07:59
rohanTSSTCORP drives are KNOWN to screw07:59
rohanEdulix: Edulix Edulix mate !07:59
ashu18i meant the mother of problems....07:59
rohanEdulix: i have the same drive07:59
Edulixhehe07:59
Daisuke_Idoroh07:59
Edulixrohan: how to check it for sure? which command07:59
rohanEdulix: i can tell you .. download - http://www.toshibaer.com/firmware/download.php?TS-L632D/TS-L632D_SC03.zip and http://www.toshibaer.com/firmware/download.php?TS-L632D/TS-L632D_AC01_Acer_OEM.zip07:59
ashu18i am thrashing mine then....which company's better08:00
Daisuke_Idorohan: really now?  because i have yet to have a single problem with this tsst drive.08:00
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rohanDaisuke_Ido: you can refer to - http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831608:00
DaSkreechrohan: Would they cause system lockups ?08:00
Daisuke_Ido8 months under linux08:00
rohanDaSkreech: yes, they do .. manufacturers fault08:00
Daisuke_Idoand it has yet to cause a single issue08:00
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: which model ?08:00
Edulixrohan: but I have a samsung r40 laptop :P not toshiba. probably it's the same though08:00
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rohanEdulix: it doesn't matter !08:01
rohanEdulix: i am asking you to download acer and samsung firmware, and you have neither :P but it will solve your problem08:01
Daisuke_IdoTSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-162A08:01
rohanEdulix: you will need windows tho' .. dunno if it'd work in wine, probably not08:01
rohanDaSkreech: sorry, i can't find firmware updates for that drive08:02
Edulixrohan: i wouldn't risk using wine for a firmware update hehe08:02
rohanDaSkreech: but the drive is 90% the root of his problems08:02
rohanashu18: i know, i've experienced the frustration ;)08:02
DaSkreechrohan meet ashu18  ashu rohan08:02
DaSkreechchat :) get to know each other :-)08:03
ashu18rohan: where r u frm??08:03
rohanDaSkreech: can you just paste the dmesg somewhere, to confirm ?08:03
rohanashu18: mumbai, india, like you i think /08:03
wolferineis this now a dating channel?08:03
ashu18rohan: he pasted it...see the link's above08:03
wolferinehehe08:03
DaSkreechrohan: you are late :008:03
Edulixrohan: please tell me with which linux command can I really check my drive version08:03
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26704/08:03
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=== Edulix : ok, dmesg | grep TS worked
Edulix[    5.313522]  hdc: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L632D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive08:04
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rohanEdulix: cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -inq08:04
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williemy box crashe halfway through adept updating some kde stuff - now X won;t start and I get a whole load of "unable to write hash table" errors when doing "dpkg --configure -a"       Whats rhe best way to get this system to remove and reinstall all KDE packages?08:04
rohanDaSkreech: err.. i need dmesg after the hang ;)08:05
ashu18willie: just insert you Kubuntu Live CD and reboot your system.....then select 'Start or Install Kubuntu'08:05
rohanashu18: the hang lasts for what seems like 2-3 minutes, right ?08:05
willieI think the prob was a dodgy fan on the graphics board - thats sorted now08:05
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ashu18rohan: i dunno...i immediately press the 'Reset' button of my cpu08:05
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willieashu18: ta08:05
rohanashu18: damn ! next time just wait for some time .. it will start working08:06
ashu18rohan: ok i will08:06
rohanashu18: during the hang, nothing will work .. keyboard, mouse, nothing08:06
ashu18btw, i think it's gonna hang any second now08:06
williethat seems a bit drastic -- you mean a complete reinstall --all non-graphic stuff looks fine08:06
ashu18rohan: that's correct!!08:06
rohanashu18: good, let DaSkreech be in08:06
Edulixtime to go08:06
Edulixthanks all!08:06
rohanEdulix: err08:07
rohanEdulix: did it work ?08:07
Edulixrohan: I will try later08:07
EdulixI have to go now ;)08:07
rohanEdulix: just update your firmware to the one in SC03 package08:07
Edulixok08:07
Edulixthanks!08:07
rohanEdulix: use the flasher in AC01 package08:07
rohanno problem08:07
EdulixI'll come back08:07
rohanok08:07
rohanEdulix: just pm me08:07
willieOK bbl08:07
rohanif i am not here08:07
DaSkreechrohan: honestly can You PM?08:07
ashu18EDulix 's a newbie too????? he knows a lot more than i do08:08
ashu18DaSkreech: u still in here??08:08
wolferinekeep it down08:09
wolferineexcessive use of the ? mark08:09
DaSkreechashu18: yes08:09
ashu18wolferine: ok,sorry for that08:09
zindenGood morning all, got a question....Which docker works best for KDE ?08:09
wolferinenp08:09
zindenKSmoothDock, using that at the moment....is it the best one or is there a better one?08:10
ashu18rohan: which company hs got better cd/dvd rom drives??08:10
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rohanashu18: well, i'd prefer sony .. but i'm stuck with samsung too, because it came with the laptop08:11
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ashu18rohan: does ur samsung stink too?08:11
underdog5004plextor is the best there is, imho08:11
rohanashu18: yes, but it works fine after the firmware upgrade08:12
ashu18underdog5004: all these plextor and all will be available in india?08:12
underdog5004ashu18, I don't see why not...08:12
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underdog5004Plextor is kind of the ferrarri of cd/dvd rom manufacturers08:13
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underdog5004I'm going to bed...good night08:13
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kain1234i need some help mounting an external hd and an sd card reader08:14
ashu18rohan: roughly, how many ubuntu + kubuntu + edubuntu + xubuntu users are there in the world?08:14
kain1234and gaining access to /mnt08:14
rohanashu18: no way to guess .. but lots :)08:14
kain1234i've been dealing with this for like a week08:14
ashu18rohan: the number's increasing rapidly for sure08:14
ashu18jhutchins: u still here? havn't u got any work 2 do08:15
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rohanyes, ashu18 , it's a cdrom drive problem08:16
rohanashu18: is it a branded pc, or assembled ?08:16
ashu18assembled08:16
rohandamn08:17
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rohanashu18: can you ask him to change your drive ? it'll be the easiest way out .. because there are no firmware updates for your drive08:17
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andreamordiniHello. opening synaptic I had this message:08:17
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andreamordiniE: Dynamic MMap ran out of room08:17
andreamordiniE: Error occurred while processing adduser (NewFileVer1)08:17
andreamordiniE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status08:17
andreamordiniE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.08:17
andreamordiniE: _cache->open() failed, please report.08:17
wolferineflooding the channel?08:17
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ashu18rohan: u mean i ll ask dad??08:17
andreamordinisomeone can helo me?08:17
DaSkreech!paste | andreamordini08:17
ubotuandreamordini: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:17
rohanashu18: hey wait08:18
=== wolferine helos andreamordini
andreamordinihello, sorry for my flow08:18
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pb_Kprofthreat08:19
rohanashu18: download this - http://cd-rom.free-driver-download.com/24561/Samsung-TS-H292A-CD-RW-Firmware-TS02.html08:19
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ashu18will it open in ubuntu?08:19
DaSkreechandreamordini: something seems wrong with your /etc/apt/sources.list08:19
rohanashu18: no, just download the .bin08:20
rohangot it ?08:20
ashu18rohan: yeah...now what?08:20
andreamordiniyea, but what? I modified nothing since last time08:20
DaSkreechandreamordini: open adept -> adept menu -> manage repos -> third party repos -> make sure it's empty -> click save08:20
rohanashu18: download http://www.samsungodd.com/KorLib/File/sfdnwin.exe08:20
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rohanashu18: downloaded ?08:21
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andreamordiniI can't open adept. an error is reported08:21
rohanashu18: now save both the file in windows partition ..08:21
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ashu18rohan: wait it's noon and download's super slow08:21
pb_Kprofthreat, system got hosed, restarted in CLI, ran commands, back  to normal08:21
xsachaandreamordini: wat error?08:21
ashu18rohan: i don't have windows08:22
Kprofthrea1Good08:22
rohanashu18: damn !08:22
pb_Thanks for giving me that extra bit at the end08:22
rohanhow will you update your firmware, then08:22
Kprofthrea1Join #pb08:22
rohanashu18: it was not installed with your pc ?08:22
pb_rgr08:22
ashu18yeah it was...but i dumped it 20 dayz ago thiking ubuntu is much better08:23
ashu18and my worries have started since08:23
andreamordiniit says "could not open cache"08:23
andreamordiniand08:23
rohanashu18: it is much much better .. but damned manufacturers don't provide firmware update utilities for linux !08:23
xsachaandreamordini: you wouldnt happen to be using gutsy gibbon would you?08:23
ashu18rohan: my sis and mom are furious too08:23
DaSkreech!easysource | andreamordini08:23
ubotuandreamordini: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:23
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ashu18rohan: DaSkreech: is there ANY way i can do it here?08:24
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andreamordiniI will try to create a new source.list08:24
andreamordinithanks!08:24
xsachaandreamordini: gutsy gibbon? 7.10?08:24
DaSkreechashu18: what about?08:25
andreamordini7.0408:25
xsachaok08:25
rohanashu18: no, because it's samsungs fault08:25
ashu18DaSkreech: rohan found some firware updates but i don't hav windows to get it to work!!!!!!!!!!!!08:25
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DaSkreechrohan: would wine work?08:25
wolferinenite08:25
DaSkreechcourse wine is huge08:25
DaSkreechnite08:26
rohanDaSkreech: i don't think so08:27
rohannot for firmware08:27
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DaSkreechrohan: Can he pop the drive out and go next door?08:27
ashu18:(08:27
rohanDaSkreech: he can08:28
rohanashu18: does anyone near you have 'doze08:28
ashu18rohan: what's 'doze? windows?08:28
DaSkreechashu18: do you have someone who lives near you with a computer?08:28
ldb__for some reason my route to any ubuntu.com server is broke (we just had a storm here) -- is there a list of mirrors i could use for apt-get ?08:28
ashu18DaSkreech: of course there are loads of people and EVERYONE has got dear windows08:29
rohanyes, ashu1808:29
xsachatry different country ubuntu mirrors ldb__ ?08:29
xsachalike au.ubuntu.org and so on08:29
ldb__i cant connect to ubuntu.org either08:29
ashu18DaSkreech: rohan: u mean 2 say i put the drive in their system and update it there?08:29
ldb__oh hmm, wait08:29
DaSkreechashu18: ok hope you have a phillips screwdrriver :)08:29
rohanlol DaSkreech08:30
DaSkreechashu18: bingo08:30
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ashu18hah i hav08:30
ashu18lol08:30
DaSkreechrohan: WD does firmware updates as an ISO why can't everyone just do that ?08:30
rohanDaSkreech: i wish .. that would eliminate dependance on OS !08:30
ldb__nah, wont work -- i cant resolve any ubuntu.com or ubunto.org hostnames08:31
DaSkreechrohan: Exactly! I think we should start a movement08:31
xsachaldb__: try this: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/08:31
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ldb__that did work08:31
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xsachaso just use country codes :)08:31
DaSkreechashu18: course we need to figure out how to burn the firmware to a cd  so you can carry it :)08:31
ldb__like i said, i did08:32
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ashu18can't i take it on a pen drive??? it does accept my pen drive08:32
ashu18also, it did accept the blank cd earlier today, didn't it?08:32
eagles0513875!html08:33
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com08:33
ashu18!windows08:33
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:33
ashu18LOL................hahahaha08:34
ashu18this ubotu is funny!!!08:34
rohanashu18: you writer will work _perfectly_ it will just cause timeouts every now and then08:34
rohanashu18: the only solution is to upgrade the firmware08:34
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ashu18u mean it will timeout even after upgrading?08:34
ashu18rohan: won't it be much better if i just replace my cd rom drive?08:36
andreamordininow everything seems to be ok. thanks!08:37
rohanashu18: well, if you can afford it, go ahead08:37
rohanashu18: but then don't but a samsung08:37
willieashu18: how long have you been using (k)ubuntu?08:38
ashu18rohan: i am not mad u know....08:38
ashu18willie: about a month...i had it alongside windows for a couple of days and then i knocked off windows08:38
willieyeah -- thought so  --- wanker -- your advice sucks08:39
ashu18willie: i hadn't noticed this terrible problem08:39
eagles0513875!ftp08:39
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd08:39
willieuntil you know what you arer talking about -- shut the fuck up --- tosser08:39
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Chanio.008:40
rohanashu18: the problem was introduced in ubuntu feisty only, because it has libata enabled08:40
rohanashu18: and every new distro does..08:40
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ashu18rohan: still it's so hard to believe how come linux gives us all for free!!! i mean u just can't believe it using windows!08:41
Chanihehe08:42
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rohanashu18: yeah .. that's one of the biggest things .. free !08:42
Chanithat's what happens when people work together: everyone gets more :)08:42
ashu18i still had everything free in windows...but of course the OS was a pirated one....08:43
ashu18here, there's no piracy and all, u can use whatever u want08:43
DaSkreechyeah that's bad08:43
DaSkreechashu18: what are the femmes in your family angry about?08:43
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rohanDaSkreech: here the femmes all want windows .. or something which is easy to use08:44
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rohanDaSkreech: most of indian femmes are computer dumb .. the house-wifey ones08:44
ashu18DaSkreech: they had never b4 heard of a thing called ubuntu...and they were very reluctant to get rid of dear old windows08:44
DaSkreechrohan: not my femmes :008:45
DaSkreechrohan: not my femmes :D08:45
rohangood for ya08:45
DaSkreechashu18: what did they do under windows?08:45
ashu18DaSkreech: i somehow managed to convince them but now it mount cds, so they can't listen to songs or watch movies and..well u know................08:45
rohanashu18: huh ... it should mount cd's automatically /08:46
DaSkreechin fact if I can figure out how to get vulture's eye on one of their computers I'll be in pretty good stead08:46
DaSkreechashu18: yeah. did you install the codecs to listen to those things?08:46
ashu18I mean it WONT mount cds.....08:46
DaSkreechrohan: it doesn't08:46
DaSkreechrohan: that's the first complaint08:46
ashu18i did...but the things are in CDs, how will i get to play them??08:47
DaSkreechOh wait' it's audio cds08:47
DaSkreechyeah they will play08:47
ashu18it's all types of cds08:47
rohanDaSkreech: huh ! when i insert a cd, an icon is shown on the desktop, and a dialog pops up asking waht do i want to do ..08:48
DaSkreechMP3 cds ?08:48
ashu18anyway, i am goading dad to change the cd-rw to a sony or whatever today08:48
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rohanplay video, open  in new window etc, DaSkreech08:48
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DaSkreechrohan: not on his machine. go on ask him to put in a CD08:48
rohanwow one more indian .. Administrator ..08:48
rohanDaSkreech: that's strange08:48
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micmanrohan is it ok08:49
ashu18rohan: u don't know yet? ubuntu doesn't mount ANY cd on my system08:49
DaSkreechashu18: You can just drop the bin to a USB drive and flash it on another computer08:49
ashu18automatically or manually08:49
rohanashu18: huh .. strange08:49
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micmanashu18 dude do u remember #ubuntu-in08:49
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eagles0513875bbl08:50
micmanhello i m new to this world. i m micman08:50
ashu18DaSkreech: well it will be lots of less hassle to get a new cd-rw08:50
ashu18micman: u were in #ubuntu-in?08:50
micmanno ksivaji da08:50
eagles0513875what otherchat clients r their besides gaim and the kde default one08:50
eagles0513875!chat08:51
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.08:51
DaSkreechashu18: :-) I don't think the CD is what is stopping the automount08:51
micmanno ksivaji da. he tol me about u.08:51
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ashu18micman: he told me08:51
eagles0513875btw this msg needs to be changed and gaim has been forced to eb renamed08:51
rohaneagles0513875: do /msg ubotu <whatever> .. don't do it in the channel !08:51
ashu18DaSkreech: so what's stopping??08:51
DaSkreech!im08:51
thill2708how do I listen to shoutcast stations in amarok?08:51
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.08:51
micmanand about the problem with u r system and how u lost u r family photos08:51
ashu18micman:well i did....08:52
ashu18micman: it's not solved yet08:52
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DaSkreech!automount08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
micmanbettter u switch to linux08:52
micmanbettter u switch to windows08:52
ashu18micman: i AM in linux08:52
ashu18micman: well i don't see what's good in windows...ubuntu will be treat but for this problem........08:53
thill2708anyone?08:54
Kprofthreat!amarok | pb_08:54
ubotupb_: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok08:54
ashu18DaSkreech: rohan told the problem is due to the Saamsung drive...08:54
ashu18rohan: DaSkreech says getting anew cd-rw drive won't solve the problem08:54
se7enthill2708: UNDRER PLAYLISTS > RADIO STREAMS08:55
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ashu18DaSkreech: did u find any errors in my system?08:56
thill2708se7en: no suitable pluging08:56
thill2708plugin08:56
thill2708tried that already08:56
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thill2708se7en: actually, that's what it said when I clicked on the link and amarok opened08:56
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ashu18DaSkreech: rohan: u there?08:57
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mcchangerwhy don't i find w32codecs in feisty?08:58
rohanyes, ashu1808:58
DaSkreechthill2708: under playalists08:58
rohanmcchanger: it's not in the repos ..08:58
noiesmo!w32codecs | mcchanger08:58
ubotumcchanger: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:58
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thill2708DaSkreech: yes, then add media stream. Thing is... I get a plugin error...08:58
rohannoiesmo: ouch !08:58
rohanthat factoid is outdated08:59
DaSkreechthill2708: just click it again08:59
DaSkreechthill2708: no idea why it does that08:59
rohanmcchanger: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats08:59
thill2708just click it again... you're serius08:59
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rohanit has an article on w32codecs08:59
noiesmorohan, hey i didnt set it i suppose it should be medubuntu08:59
thill2708serious*08:59
mcchangerrohan: thank you08:59
ashu18DaSkreech: rohan: i ll try to update the firmware and see what happens.....see u both later....08:59
rohanyes, noiesmo08:59
mcchangerrohan: is there a seveas repo for feisty?08:59
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mcchanger!codecs09:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:00
noiesmohttp://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php09:01
mcchangerthe medibuntu repo is not working, any idea why?09:01
|Dylan|mcchanger: id bet its a temporary outage for some random reason, dont know though.09:02
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thill2708sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs did the trick09:03
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DaSkreechthill2708: sorry assumed you had that already :)09:04
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thill2708DaSkreech: hah, makes two of us09:05
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thill2708when I install I usually set that all up09:05
cbpyehas anyone else experienced instability with Kubuntu 7.04 amd64?  I mean really random and horrid instability?09:05
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DaSkreechnight all09:07
cbpyeI'll take that as a large collective "No, my X server hasn't been randomly restarting itself for no apparent reason."09:07
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AscendedDanielcbpye: I had X restarting itself a while back09:08
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AscendedDanielI thought it was due to using dual monitors09:09
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AscendedDanielhello cbpye09:17
micmanhi09:17
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kain1234i need some help mounting an external hd and an sd card reader09:17
kain1234and gaining access to /mnt09:17
kain1234i've been dealing with this for like a week09:17
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micman!mount | kain123409:17
ubotukain1234: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter09:17
kain1234!DiskMounter09:18
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse09:18
kain1234!fuse09:18
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse09:18
rohanwhy is kubuntu's musicbrainz crippled ? can't i look up tag info of mp3 files ?09:18
kain1234!GParted09:18
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:18
kain1234!QTParted09:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
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micman!botabuse | kain123409:19
ubotukain1234: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:19
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BiohazardHi, my Amarok doesn't start anymore. Yesterday it worked fine, now it doesn't start. When I run it in a terminal, this is the output: http://rafb.net/p/ARBNPX10.html09:21
kain1234ok none of that helps09:21
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kain1234how do i get access to mnt09:21
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Admiral_Chicagothis ipod is mounted as read only, i need to change this, any ideas?09:22
mat1980kain1234: isn't your hd auto-mounted?09:23
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rohodoes konqueror keep cache/history info in places other that ~/.kde/cache-hostname ?09:25
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|Dylan|Biohazard: have you checked whether the amarok process itself is running?09:26
[Al] chemist_exmy kde panel got all messed up and now it doesn't show at all.  where can I adjust the settings from if I can access the panel?  It is not in "system settings" please help.09:27
mat1980roho: Did you try to see in some subdirectory of ~/.kde/app/ ?09:27
Admiral_Chicago!permission09:27
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux09:27
rohomat1980: not yet.  thanks09:27
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Biohazard|Dylan|, it is running. The blue image doesn't disappear until I use pkill amarok09:27
BiohazardOr what do you mean?09:28
|Dylan|Biohazard: can you kill it and verify that its dead and gone?09:28
mat1980[Al] chemist_ex: try to lunch the program kcontrol09:28
mat1980Al] chemist_ex: ehm... sorry for my terrible english...09:28
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[Al] chemist_exok I got to that.  Let me look around thank you.09:29
Biohazard|Dylan|, I am new to linux, if I kill it, it isn't guaranteed that it is gone?09:29
|Dylan|Biohazard: if you cant see its process after killing it, then yes, its gone--but killing can fail for a number of reasons09:29
[Al] chemist_exmat1980, thank you.  this is my second kde install to have this porblem.  they should really fix it :p09:29
|Dylan|Biohazard: try ps -A | grep -i amarok09:30
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|Dylan|Biohazard: or actually pgrep amarok (sorry bout the long line b4)09:30
|Dylan|Biohazard: tell me if pgrep returns a number or nothing09:30
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Biohazard|Dylan|, no it returns nothing. If Amarok is running it retunrs two lines.09:31
mat1980[Al] chemist_ex: I've never messed up kde panel. What did you do? have you resolved?09:31
|Dylan|Biohazard: hm, im not sure then.  im just a regular user, no guru by any means.09:31
[Al] chemist_exmat1980, I will tell it to hide automatically.  Then it will dissapear and not come back till I restart.  Sometimes, now for example, it never comes back.09:32
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|Dylan|Biohazard: possibly theres a problem with the arts server or such09:32
Biohazard|Dylan|, ok thanks so far. Could it be a result by an software update?09:33
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|Dylan|Biohazard: i highly doubt it, it sounds like something to do with your configuration.09:33
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|Dylan|Biohazard: i think kde can reset the sound server, not sure though.  let me check for a way to restart the server.09:33
BiohazardI didn't change anything since yesterday except this update today.09:34
|Dylan|Biohazard: did it crash once and then stop working, or just stop working out of the blue?09:34
BiohazardIt just stops working out of the blue09:35
|Dylan|Biohazard: i assume your sound is working otherwise?09:35
mat1980[Al] chemist_ex: uhm... never happened. But usually I don't set auto-hide. Don't know what could cause that problem.09:36
[Al] chemist_exoh well, i know how to fix it.09:36
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Biohazard|Dylan|, oh. It's amazing. I cannot play any musik nor video file.09:37
|Dylan|Biohazard: amazing?  i dont follow.09:38
noiesmoThe update you did must have muted the sound Biohazard sometimes that happens very annoying09:38
BiohazardBecause it should work^^ I don't understand why now all musik programs hang up.09:39
|Dylan|Biohazard: ah, didnt mention that before.  :)  probably update related then, of course09:39
Biohazardnoiesmo, the sound isn't muted.09:39
noiesmoBiohazard, ok09:39
Biohazardyes I saw it when you gave the the advice to check whether my sound is working without Amarok.09:40
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|Dylan|Biohazard: this is way out of my scope of knowledge at this point, unfortunately.  i bet you could find someone more knowledgeable at a different time of day09:41
flakeI've removed a bunch of stuff on my drive, but it's still showing  1.2Gb available, 99% when I do a df -hT  .. and i just deleted a 1.2Gb folder09:42
Biohazardokay thank you so far |Dylan|09:42
|Dylan|Biohazard: np, gl.... hope you solve the prob soon, sucks to be soundless :-/09:42
Biohazardindeed09:43
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mat1980flake: maybe you just moved that stuff to trash09:44
flakeno, trash is empty09:44
[Al] chemist_exflake I have experienced this incosistancy before. I never solved and gave up.09:44
flakeis there another tool i can use to look at partitions/disk space09:46
mat1980flake: there should be a program that can show you graphically where the space is used. Wait a moment, I do a search09:46
[Al] chemist_exqtparted or gparted I beleive will tell you size and how much is used.09:46
flakethanks, installing now09:47
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flakeahh.. 3 more gigs, thanks09:48
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|Dylan|g'nite all09:48
mat1980flake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filelight09:50
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flakecool09:53
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lordofthepigsHello! I was fiddling with my appearance settings. I chose an icon set and applied it, the changed back to the crystal set.09:56
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lordofthepigsNow my konqueror file manager icons are 64px in the detailed list view, and I can't find out how to bring them back down to 16px09:57
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lordofthepigsDoes anyone know how I can fix that?09:57
flakeSettings / Appearance & themes ?09:58
flake-> icons09:58
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flakeswitch to advanced tab for size09:58
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LassePdatatyp09:59
lordofthepigs(oops, little error)09:59
lordofthepigsDid anyone say anything while I screwed up?09:59
flakesettings / appearance & themes / icons, switch to advanced tab to change size  ?09:59
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lordofthepigsI tried.10:00
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lordofthepigsit had no effect10:01
shirasE_Hey.10:01
lordofthepigsWell actually it had an effect, it made my desktop icons tiny10:01
lordofthepigsbut it didn't affect my "Detailed list" icon size in konqueror10:02
flakedid you select the use of icon from list on left hand side?10:02
flakemaybe make it 'all icons'10:02
flakeinstead of leaving it at desktop icons10:02
lordofthepigsAll icons has the size controls disables10:03
lordofthepigsdisabled10:03
flakeaccording to filelight, my root takes up 121Gb - I have a ton of crap :/10:03
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flakehave you gone through each icon use and check its size10:04
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lordofthepigsyeah, and they all seem fine10:05
flakeotay.. I do have a bunch of stuff in my .Trash folder, it shows as empty on my gui  ~:10:05
shirasE_Hey I'm new and just installed Ubuntu 7.04.10:06
lordofthepigsOh, and since I'm at it, how can I get an application to start automatically when KDE start up10:06
shirasE_First time using Linux and I found code to make it identify my NTFS format.10:06
shirasE_And I was wondering if there is anyway to execute this code automatically?10:06
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crazy_busIs there anyway to get akregator to use another download manager other than kget or the konqueror one?10:07
flakelord - did you log off/on10:08
lordofthepigsyeah, didn't change anything10:08
mat1980llordofthepigs: just logout with that application still working. kde will remember the session and start it at start up.10:08
lordofthepigsmat1980: Hmm... I'm talking about stuff that runs in the background, Vidalia/TOR and Skype, specifically10:09
flakeshirasE_  -  I think you put the code into  /etc/fstab  file10:09
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flakeis it a mount command10:09
shirasE_flake: Ok thanks I'll let you know how I go10:09
shirasE_flake:  Yes it is a mount command.10:09
flakek10:10
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shirasE_flake: How do I add it into the file.10:12
shirasE_flake: This is the code I currently have.10:12
shirasE_sudo mkdir /media/windows10:12
shirasE_sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022210:12
flakesudo gedt /etc/fstab10:12
shirasE_flake: Sorry just the second line of code, the first one only needs to be done once.10:13
flakeoops sudo gedit10:13
shirasE_Yeah I can open it but, I'm not sure what exactly to add.10:13
flakemount /dev/hda1 .....10:13
flakedon't need sudo10:13
shirasE_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only10:13
shirasE_^_^10:14
shirasE_But the format inside the fstab file.10:14
acemois there any svn support or a plugin for this in kate?10:14
shirasE_Is different.10:14
flakewow.. my .Trash was full but icon on panel was not reporting correctly  .. grrr   now df -hT reports 79% free and 15G available10:14
flakeor deleting10:14
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flakeshirasE_  do a pastebin please10:15
acemocan someone reccomand me an text editor with highlights and svn support?10:16
shirasE_flake: What is a pastebin? you just want me to paste?10:16
flakenevermind, look at that website, it tells you how to add it10:17
flakegksudo gedit /etc/fstab10:17
mat1980lordofthepigs: uhm... I remember that there should be a way to configure the session. Start kcontrol and look there. I have not installed kde on the pc I'm working now.10:17
flakeput that line,   /dev/hda1       /media/windows/....    at the end10:17
flakewhat do you mean the by the format looks different, is it a binary file10:18
flakeor a text file10:18
shirasE_# /etc/fstab: static file system information.10:19
shirasE_#10:19
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shirasE_# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>10:19
shirasE_proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       010:19
shirasE_# /dev/sdb110:19
shirasE_UUID=58cfa6e8-4df3-415e-b298-38aacc029624 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       110:19
shirasE_# /dev/sdb510:19
shirasE_UUID=519fa1f0-5e72-4d06-b02d-7fca57eaa4e8 none            swap    sw              0       010:19
shirasE_/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       010:19
shirasE_/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       010:19
shirasE_/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       010:19
shirasE_/dev/sda1       /media/windows/10:19
flakelordofthepings - you try using the theme manager to change the icons - can you uninstall/reinstall the theme?10:19
flakeat end, put that line  /dev/hda1 ......10:20
shirasE_I added it already.10:20
^V^!pastebin10:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:20
shirasE_My drive is sda1.10:20
flakeok10:20
shirasE_^V^: Sorry, and thanks.10:21
shirasE_flake: I'll restart in a second and let you know if it works, thanks for your time.10:21
flakecrossin fingers, maybe i'm good for somethin10:21
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^V^shirasE_: try sudo mount -a10:23
^V^I dont think there was a need to reboot...10:24
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bjwebbhow do i find out ig xgl is running?10:26
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lordofthepigsflake: I switched icon sets several times, for some reason, changing to KDE-lowcolor made my icon 32px wide10:27
lordofthepigsso it's better than before, but still no cake10:27
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Dusk_i have usb adsl modem..i'm gonna install kubuntu few minutes later..will this be a problem?10:27
lordofthepigsI can't uninstall any of the icon themes, the button is greyed out for all of them10:27
flaketry changing to different theme and resizing, or the one you were trying out and sizing it back smaller?10:28
bjwebband ive lost my virtual teminals somehow10:28
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flakeprob some setting is stepping on another, don't know if it's at a higher level like theme manager/icon manager or at a lower level like in some config file10:29
lordofthepigsWell, the only thing that is wrong is konqueror10:30
lordofthepigsthe rest looks fine10:31
lordofthepigsand left panel in konqueror is actually fine too, only the left part has too big icons10:31
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flakehold control key down and move middle mouse button to zoom in/out  ?10:31
lordihi guys10:31
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lordiIm running ku on a virtual machine cause on my new sys it doesn't boot, what can i do?10:32
lordofthepigsflake: Duuuuh...10:32
flakewoohoo, i fixed something10:32
lordofthepigsI finally found the icon size setting in konqueror10:32
flakedoh10:32
^V^lordi: ku?10:33
lordofthepigsit wasn't the zoom though10:33
flakeok glad you found it10:33
lordofthepigsyeah, me too :)10:33
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lordofthepigsthanks for the help!10:33
lordikubuntu10:34
^V^it installed okay?10:35
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^V^as in, have you tried to install it on natively?10:35
lordino it doesnt even boot the live cd complete10:35
lordii think its a driver problem10:35
^V^maybe not10:35
lordicause its a new system10:35
micmanhello friends i m new to this kubuntu world10:35
flakeyw, g2g10:36
lordiok then what else can i do?10:36
micmanonly today i got an internet connection10:36
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micmancan u help me out with my silly doubts in linux10:36
^V^try adding: "noacpi acpi=off noapic nolapic" to the end of the boot string10:36
bjwebb_i can't get xgl to work :(10:36
^V^no quotes10:36
lordihmm k will try thx10:37
bjwebb_and im missing my virtual terminals for some reason10:37
bjwebb_how can i get them back?10:37
micmani dont have doubts for now , but rememeber my name OK10:37
^V^lordi: what motherboard btw?10:37
micmanis SuperKiddo there?10:37
lordiabit fp-in9 sli nforce 650i10:37
micmanhello guys ,isn't anyone interested in chatting with me10:38
bjwebb_how can i restore the virtual terminals if they no longer appear10:38
micmanwait! see i m not a tech geek; but i m interested in such stuffs10:39
^V^micman: ask the questions and if anyone knows they will try to help10:39
micmanwell thank u!!10:39
micmani would like to know if anyone one in here is a well experienced in  knowledge related to IT10:40
bjwebb_hello?10:40
micmandid u get my question?10:41
lordofthepigsmicman: Do you have anything more specific?10:41
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micmani mean i would like to know if there some experienced person (in IT) who could guide me in my engineering studies10:42
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micmanis any one still in there?10:43
^V^micman: have you got any specific kubuntu questions?10:43
micmani m sorry. i don't have any Kubuntu ques for now. i shall login later. THX .10:44
bjwebb_hello?10:44
Lynourebjwebb_: What do you want to ask?10:45
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bjwebb_firstly, how can i get my virtual terminals back10:46
bjwebb_eg ctrl+alt+f110:46
bjwebb_they don't ssem to be there anymore :(10:46
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eagles0513875if i downloaded and compiled the pidgin (gaim replacement) source code will it break10:47
eagles0513875my installation10:47
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^V^it shouldn't break anything10:48
bjwebb_anyone know how to get the virtual terminals back if they aren't there anymore?10:48
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brian__anyone who can answer a quick question please pm me, Im trying to get something in my x11 startup (run something on login)10:51
^V^brian__: post your question to the channel please10:52
brian__sure, didnt want to create noise with something so small :)10:52
brian__I want to open a konsole everytime I log in, in a certain position on the screen with a certain size10:52
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brian__anyone have any ideas?10:55
brian__the certain size and position thing can be omitted for now10:55
brian__I can try to figure that out later, but the autostartup would be nice10:56
^V^~/.kde/Autostart/10:56
brian__its empty, what do I put in there? an ln to konsole?10:57
^V^a shell script10:57
brian__oh it will run any script in there?10:57
^V^don't forget to set +x on it so it actually gets executed10:57
brian__nice, thanks :)10:57
^V^doesn't a konsole stay up between log-ons if you don't close it?10:58
se7enyes it will stay open if just don't close it on a restart10:59
brian__yeah but I want to always have one even if I close it10:59
^V^I keep mine open all the time10:59
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brian__thanks though :)10:59
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bjwebbcan someone help?11:09
bjwebbim missing /ect/inittab11:09
bjwebband i can't start virtual terminals11:09
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lupulhy there! does anybody know which linux has the lowest system requirements?11:13
paglupul, just a guess: DSL or Puppy linux?11:19
lupulok11:19
lupuli was thinking about xubuntu11:19
lupuli assume they're both on kde?11:20
lupulpuppy and dsl11:20
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mat1980lupul: none of them11:20
lupulactually i know dsl. the very damn small one11:20
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xlinuxim gonna try this one again, although Ive had no success in the past.. Amarok crashes offline when trying to play a song, kaffeine wont play videos offline11:25
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eagles0513875how do i add a program that i have installed from soure to the menu list11:26
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xlinuxfind out what the terminal command is to launch the program and create a launcher11:27
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mat1980eagles0513875: start kmenuedit and make a new entry11:27
eagles0513875ok what would the workpath be to it11:28
mat1980eagles0513875: don't know. but usually you only need to fill the command line.11:29
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eagles0513875ok cuz i just installed pidgin and i would like to add that11:29
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mat1980eagles0513875:   I assume that if you give the command pidgin in a terminal the application start. Well, than just add a new entry with pidgin as command.11:31
eagles0513875ok11:31
eagles0513875done and it works11:33
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KprofthreatWell...I got America's Army workin on Wine...but PB kicks me from games11:37
KprofthreatOh well11:37
Kprofthreat=/11:37
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DexterF!wpa11:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:45
KprofthreatMeh, the dream is over. =[11:45
DexterFcan I connect to WPA from the 7.04 live dvd? I noticed wpa_supplicant is installed but I wouldn't know what to do11:47
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thill2708are there any plans to implement kickoff in gutsy?11:49
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weshey somebody can help me? =/ my gnome's screen stay 'blinking' when i turn it on and didnt sign in..11:52
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DexterFyour "gnome's screen"? what's that supposed to mean?11:53
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DexterFguys I'm looking at the bot's link to wpa - this sucks hard. is there no easy way yet? at least a *little* easier?11:56
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Dusk_i can't install my usb adsl modem on kubuntu..where can i get help??11:59
Dusk_asus aam6000ug white usb modem11:59
Dusk_i can't get any link cause kubuntu can't recognize it11:59
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mat1980Dusk_: usb adsl modems are quite hard to configure under Linux. We lack drivers.12:01
Dusk_can't ueagle fix this problem?12:02
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mat1980Dusk_: ueagle? what is it?12:03
Dusk_eagle usb project12:03
Dusk_https://gna.org/projects/ueagleatm/12:03
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mat1980Dusk_: didn't know that.12:05
Dusk_mat1980 is there br2684ctl -c 0 -b -a 8.35 package on kubuntu?12:06
Dusk_mat1980 sorry! the package name is br268ctl only12:07
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mat1980Dusk_: yes, there is.12:10
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Dusk_also when i try to turn off or restart kubuntu it says Out of Sync on my monitor..what is it about?12:11
Dusk_A black screen12:11
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sabgentonis there a back forward with the mouse in konqueror?12:12
sabgentonfire fox has it don't it??12:12
mat1980Dusk_: you'r X server is configured to work with a too high refresh rate12:13
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OlgemKwalletmanager fails to start, some xserver error :/12:14
Dusk_mat1980: how can i fix it??12:15
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mat1980Dusk_: on a console give the command sudo k12:17
Dusk_ok thanks mat198012:17
mat1980Dusk_: sorry.. on a console give the command sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure properly the video settings12:17
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lupulcan anyone tell me how to install dsl on usb drive?12:18
lupulor puppylinux12:18
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lupulor how to make a bootable usb disk with kubuntu feisty12:18
Olgemwell12:18
Olgemjoin #dsl12:18
Olgemits dedicated to dsl12:19
bjwebbive been messing around with some of my grpahic card settings and now beryl won't start12:20
bjwebbhttp://paste2.org/p/397912:20
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Ace2016Hi all12:22
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Dusk_lupul: try this http://atm.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=PagePrincipaleEn12:23
lupulthanks12:23
Ace2016oh i used to have an eagle modem, it drove me nuts!!!!! then i got a router :D12:23
bjwebbive got an adol modem :(12:24
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Dusk_i'm slowly driving nuts too12:24
Dusk_i use pardus linux distro also12:25
Dusk_and it installs usb modems easily12:25
Dusk_you should try it12:25
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lupulpardus?12:26
lupulweird name12:26
lupulok i'll try12:26
lupulthanks12:26
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Dusk_http://www.pardus.org.tr12:27
Ace2016its in another language any english version?12:27
Dusk_sorry12:27
Dusk_http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/index.html12:27
Dusk_this is the eng site12:27
Dusk_with 3 commands i easily use my usb modem12:28
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Dusk_adsl-setup12:29
Dusk_br268ctl12:29
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Dusk_this is it12:29
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luca_bHello. I've got one question for the shell experts out there: I have several text files with one record per item, and I need to make a big file which contains all records from all files (one per line). What do you suggest to do?12:33
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ksivaji Jucato  hi12:36
Jucatohi ksivaji12:36
ksivajiJucato i want my nick to be ksivaji when i log in12:37
ksivajimy current nick is sivaji every time i change it to ksivai12:37
Jucatoksivaji: you're using Konversation right? go to Settings -> Identities or press F812:38
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ksivajiyes Jucato can u get me12:38
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ksivajiJucato ya i got it12:38
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ardchoilleluca_b: You could do a for loop12:40
luca_bardchoille: thanks, I managed using a Python module and a for loop12:41
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ardchoilleluca_b: A python module? Wasn't needed, all you needed was a for loo in bash: for i in *; do echo $i >> /path/file; done12:51
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bjwebbhi12:53
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bjwebbmy keyboard's function keys aren't working12:53
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bjwebbokay my function keys won't work when beryl is started12:57
bjwebband i can't switch to a virtual teminal either12:57
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Dusk_how can i find pppoe deb package for kubuntu?12:58
fritschDusk_: apt-cache search ppoe12:59
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Dusk_i'm not on kubuntu now cause i couldn'e install modem driver12:59
Dusk_i want to find the deb package and install it manually12:59
fritschDusk_: packages.ubuntu.com01:00
fritschsearch for pppoe01:00
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bjwebbi can't access my virtual terminals :(01:01
Dusk_fritsch ok thanks01:01
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Dusk_fritsch: whick one i will download??01:02
Dusk_fritsch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/pppoe01:02
Dusk_fritsch: oh ok i found..thanks01:03
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Dusk_fritsch: do i need to install it on konsole or just double clicking will make it install with dependencies??01:05
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fritschDusk_: normally pppoeconf is installed by default01:06
fritschDusk_: have your tried running it?01:06
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Dusk_i used to use other distros so i don't know some of kubuntu commands01:06
Dusk_pppoe is also installed by default??01:07
Dusk_or ppp?01:07
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fritschppp pppoeconfig01:09
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Dusk_fritsch: ok thanks...i'm fed up with trying to install my usb modem on kubuntu :(01:10
bjwebbeciadsl?01:10
fritschDusk_: you have a normal DSL modem? or a dialin one?01:10
Dusk_normal DSL modem01:11
Dusk_asus aam6000ug(white) adsl modem01:11
fritschDusk_: are the kernel modules loaded correctly?01:12
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Dusk_must be01:12
Dusk_i found the eagle-usb atm firmwares01:12
fritschDusk_: mmh01:13
fritschDusk_: okay try with pppoeconf01:13
Dusk_what do i need to do to install them correctly01:13
fritschnormally the kernel should bring everything ...01:13
Dusk_or how can i know they where loaded correctly_01:13
fritschDusk_: http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html01:14
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fritschDusk_: mmh all modules are already included in the ubuntu kernel01:15
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fritschDusk_: have a look, if speedtch is loaded01:15
Dusk_fritsch: ok..let me have a look01:15
jorik808a completely passwordless system, is that possible ? (regardless of the badness of the idea)01:15
Dusk_thanks,01:15
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sivaji_kumamoto you are from india right01:24
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ksivajiif i install a package usign adept where it will be stored01:25
ksivajii mean dir01:25
ubunturosksivaji: do you mean the executable?01:26
ksivajiyes01:27
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ubunturosksivaji: it is usually in /usr/bin01:28
ksivajiubunturos ok01:29
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ubunturosksivaji: [OT]  Rajnikant fan?01:29
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ksivajiubunturos ya but this is my actual name sivaji01:31
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ksivajiubunturos u r from india01:31
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ubunturosksivaji: yes, :)01:31
ksivajiwhere exactly01:31
eguzkiahello i need help to install 3d driver on my nvidia GeForce 420Go01:31
eguzkiai have installed nvidia-glx01:31
eguzkiabut doesen't work01:31
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_4strOyop yop01:32
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noiesmoeguzkia, have you tried the nvidia-glx-new01:35
ksivajiubunturos :01:36
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eguzkianoiesmo:no where i can find this package01:36
noiesmoeguzkia, its in restricted repo01:37
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eguzkianoiesmo:i don't have this package in synaptic01:37
eguzkianoiesmo: may be a new repository01:37
noiesmoeguzkia, you need to edit the sources or repositories in synaptic then update01:38
eguzkianoiesmo: can you write me the repository01:38
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noiesmoeguzkia, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted01:39
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noiesmoeguzkia, you add "restriced" to your repositories well the ones under ubuntu supported packages01:40
eguzkianoiesmo: i red feisty but i have edgy01:40
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noiesmoeguzkia, just replace feisty with edgy01:41
eguzkiaok01:41
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noiesmoeguzkia, you will need to update package manager before new packages avail01:42
eguzkiaok01:42
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ksivajii installed google toolbar and plugins for firefox it work good but all the buttons and texts looks small how can i enlarge this01:46
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mor0o0ohi01:48
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Dusk_when i give pppoe-status, pppoe-start or pppoe-setup commands i give a /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf not found warning01:55
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Dusk_when i give pppoe-status, pppoe-start or pppoe-setup commands i give a /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf not found warning01:59
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wsjuniorhey guys, with compiz fusion superkaramba gadgets just appear in one desktop, is there any way to make it appera in all workspaces?01:59
Dusk_what should i do plz help01:59
nostferkai am using kdevelop and have jsut written a simple hello world programme01:59
nostferkahow do i compile it?01:59
wsjuniornostferka: c language?02:00
nostferkac++02:00
wsjuniornostferka: g++ file.cpp -o outputfilename02:00
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nostferkanothing easier?02:02
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wsjuniornostferka: isnt it easier enough?!02:02
wsjunioru mena easier like pressing a button?!02:02
nostferkayes02:02
nostferkalol02:02
wsjuniori dont think it is possible to do that with kdevelop02:03
nostferkaor shall we say "more typing efficient"02:03
nostferkasurely then kdevelop is just a fancy text editor?02:03
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karthikpCan somebody help me with getting bluetooth working on kubuntu?02:07
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ksivajikarthikp have you tried ubuntu02:10
ksivajikarthikp have you tried #ubuntu channel02:10
phpcodeksivaji: karthikp has left this server (Remote closed the connection)02:11
ksivajiya just now i saw02:11
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timI need to install a MP3 encoder thing for Amarok what it called?02:24
grultim, yes, because mp3 is bla bla proprietary02:24
grul!mp302:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:24
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killermachtim, install libmad02:26
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micmanhello02:34
micmanhello superkiddo r u there?02:34
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micmando u know anything about the language Ruby?02:35
ksivajimicman hi02:35
micmanhello shiva02:35
ksivaji micman hey started again02:35
ksivajimicman thu02:35
micmanjust started to excel with u r help02:35
ksivajimicman why you are in windows02:36
ksivajimicman02:36
micmanhow to ask doubts to the supervisor? Shiva!02:36
micmani want the format.02:37
ksivajijust put your query here02:37
micmando u know anything about the language Ruby?02:37
ksivajiya ruby is a script02:37
ksivajicome to #ubuntu-in02:37
ksivaji micman why you are in windows ?02:38
dromerhi all, I'm getting segmentation fault on firefox somehow. I _can_ run it over x-forwarding however :S only not on the local machine02:38
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ksivajihi jucato02:39
Jucatohello again02:39
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micmanshiva introduce me to the tech geeks... in a serious mood.02:42
ksivajiJucato micman is my friend just now started using linux help ok02:42
micmanhello jucato!!02:42
JucatoO.o02:42
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micmanwhat do u mean by that?02:43
ksivajiJucato what does it means02:43
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micmanso do i.02:43
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Jucatowhat do I mean by what?02:44
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micmando u know anything about Ruby lang.02:44
ksivajiJucato O.o02:44
aroomicman: this isn't a ruby help channel02:44
ksivajimicman he knows everything02:44
Jucatonothing about ruby. sorry02:44
micmanis that jucatos version no.   :0] 02:44
Jucatono I don't02:44
micmanok aroo02:44
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JucatoO.o <--- emoticon. like raising an eyebrow, almost similar to :O02:45
micmanShiva: can explain the word everything in this context02:45
micmanShiva: can u  explain the word everything in this context02:45
ksivajiya i will02:45
micmanok jucato . lets get into tech..02:45
ksivajimicman first you upgrade02:46
micmanc . i know something about FOSS.02:46
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micmani m expecting Linux to rule the future.02:46
ksivajimicman ho ho ho02:46
micmanshiva ! stop kidding.02:47
micmanWork while work and play while u play02:47
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ksivajimicman i got source for prozilla  a download manager02:47
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ksivajignomefre1k hi02:47
micmannow where is jucato? is he taking a nap amidst our Quarrrel.02:47
ksivajignomefreak. hi02:48
micmannow this an  "Open Question".02:48
micmani m doing my third year in comp. engg.02:48
gnomefreakhi02:49
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ksivajimicman receive that file02:49
micmanShiva !will that incur me download cost?02:49
ksivajithat is small 200kb02:50
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micmansmall drops of water make a mighty ocean.02:50
ksivajimicman ok upto u02:50
micmanthat download was a failure02:50
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micmanwhere is Jucato02:51
ksivajimicman let me digg prozilla bye02:51
Jucatoksivaji, micman: please take your conversation elsewhere, like to #kubuntu-offtopic02:51
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micman ok jucato :(02:52
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atkHi. I've changed from ubuntu to kubuntu (7.04). When kontact asks for gpg passphrase it does that by using gnome passphrase dialog. How to change that to a kde one with perhaps the passphrase saved to wallet or somehow cached?02:54
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RytmenPinnenHi, is there a way to scan for usb devices that tries to connect to my computer?03:07
ubuntuhi03:08
RytmenPinnenI'm trying transfer some songs to my iriver t10 but it wont connect, it just says "USB connect in the display"03:08
ubuntuhow do i change my name on konversation?03:08
ubuntunew too this help plz03:08
RytmenPinnen./nick [yer name] 03:08
RytmenPinnenI think :)03:08
ubuntuk thanks03:08
RytmenPinnenlemme try03:08
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TheIdiotyay03:09
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Daisuke_IdoTheIdiot: dmesg | tail03:09
RytmenPinnennow someone help me please :)03:09
Daisuke_Idoafter you plug it in03:09
ubuntu./JOSHUA355603:09
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RytmenPinnenok I'll try that03:09
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ubuntu./nick {Joshua3556}03:09
ubuntuhaveing problems03:09
ubuntulol03:09
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RytmenPinnenum03:10
RytmenPinnenno .03:10
ubuntu./ [Joshua8568] 03:10
ubuntui meant i am03:10
ubuntunot u03:10
ubuntulol03:10
RytmenPinnenoh rigght...03:10
ubuntutrying too get this nickname changed03:10
ubuntufirst time u have used irc on kubuntu03:11
ubuntuso ya lol03:11
ubuntui have03:11
ksivajiRytmenPinnen you want to change your nick right03:11
RytmenPinnenno03:11
ubuntui do03:11
RytmenPinnenI know how to do that :P03:11
ubuntucan u do it?03:11
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ubuntuor do i have too?03:11
RytmenPinnenyes you have to as far as i know03:11
ksivajiRytmenPinnen what u wnat to be done03:12
RytmenPinnen /nick [your desired name] 03:12
ubuntuoh dat would be cool if admins could03:12
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Jucatoubuntu: just type /nick <the nick you want>03:12
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RytmenPinnenI want to connect my iriver t10 mp3 player but it wont connect03:12
[joshua355] there we go yay03:12
[joshua355] lol03:12
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Jucatothe [ ]  is not necessary03:12
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[joshua355] i river?03:12
[joshua355] never heard dat kinda mp3 player03:13
[joshua355] LMFAO03:13
RytmenPinnendmesg | tail . I was told that scans for usb devices03:13
Daisuke_Idothe iriver's been around for a long time03:13
[joshua355] oh03:13
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RytmenPinnenok it gives me some output but I'm not sure if its useful03:13
[joshua355] ok i have another problem03:14
Daisuke_Idoit shows the last several lines of dmesg output03:14
[joshua355] i have a creative soundblaster audigy03:14
Daisuke_Ido!paste | RytmenPinnen03:14
ubotuRytmenPinnen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:14
[joshua355] and i getting no sound03:14
Daisuke_Idouse that to paste the dmesg output03:14
[joshua355] where would i go about getting the drivers?03:14
[joshua355] for linux i mean03:14
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Daisuke_Idohave you tried googling it?03:15
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RytmenPinnenme?03:15
Daisuke_Idono03:15
[joshua355] yes03:16
[joshua355] i have03:16
RytmenPinnenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26728/ there, anything useful?03:16
RytmenPinnentried with both the device pluggen and not plugged03:16
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mat1980RytmenPinnen: "sda: unknown partition table" sounds not good...03:17
[joshua355] nope lol03:17
RytmenPinnenaha03:17
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[joshua355] u must of lost ur partion?03:18
[joshua355] or fucked it up who knows03:18
[joshua355] lol03:18
aroo!language03:18
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:18
Daisuke_Ido!language | [joshua355] 03:18
[joshua355] srry03:18
ubotu[joshua355] : please see above03:18
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RytmenPinnenthe thing is that it worked about 20 minutes ago, but then there was some odd error when I did a transfer and the device locked up03:18
[joshua355] messed it up03:18
[joshua355] lol03:18
Daisuke_Idois there a recovery mode you can boot into?03:18
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Daisuke_Idomost flash-based players have some sort of recovery03:19
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[joshua355] ok i found the drivers03:19
RytmenPinnennot as far as I know, but the device works it just doesnt connect to my comp, The family machine is a win comp, lemme try on thatone, brb03:19
[joshua355] finally lol03:19
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[joshua355] hmm03:20
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klobstercan I mount multiple partitions on the same folder?03:22
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ksivajiklobster no03:23
Daisuke_Idowhat filesystem is the iriver using?03:24
[joshua355] how long u had ur iriver?03:25
RytmenPinnenDaisuke_Ido I believe its somekind of FAT03:27
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RytmenPinnenand my god windows is slow and annoying,03:27
saintz0rthis is a little bit offtopic: can anyone help me on how to make .torrent files using rtorrent?03:27
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[joshua355] lol03:28
[joshua355] should say03:28
[joshua355] go too help file03:29
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ksivajisaintz0r google alone can help you ..03:30
simone_salve03:30
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RytmenPinnenhmm, dont seem to show up the gaytes computer either most be the player03:36
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[joshua355] http://files.printf.dk/guides/audigy2.htm ok i found out how too do it03:38
[joshua355] but problem where is the editor too do this?03:38
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[joshua355] i downloaded the tar file or wateva03:39
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[joshua355] now i gotta compile or something03:39
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flyKubuntu wont load!03:54
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ubunturosfly: what's the error? that would help many on this channel to solve the problem03:54
flyum03:55
flyit goes ro black screen saying...03:55
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flyUncompressing linux... Ok,   booting the kernal. :/03:56
flylive cd...03:56
ubunturosfly: are you using a pressed media or a CD burnt from an ISO?03:57
lukeI have an IBM Thinkpad that has a VGA Port, I want to use the Laptop Screen and an external Monitor as a Dual-Screen Setup, but whenever I try in kcontrol Xserver breaks and I have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:57
lukecan anyone help me?03:57
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flyCD burnt from an ISO?03:58
VSpikeHas anyone applied the KDE 3.5.7 updates on Feisty?03:58
lukeVSpike, I have03:58
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flynot a ? ^03:58
VSpikeluke: how do you find them?03:58
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ubunturosfly: did you verify the ISO (checked the md5sum?) and verfiy after burning the ISO?03:59
a9913fly, try booting with vga=normal03:59
lukeVSpike, not much of a difference from 3.5.6 but there are no problems with it03:59
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VSpikeluke: I did a similar upgrade on my Edgy system to 3.5.6 and had lots of problem, but I think that Edgy install was just messed up anyway so I can't say that was the cause.  Had all kinds of odd problems with it.  Did a clean install to Feisty and vowed to be super careful about what I installed, and adding extra repos and so on.04:00
lukeyea, when first packaged for Feisty it screwed up my system and I had to downgrade, but it's all fixed now04:01
flybefor the black screen the loading splash comes up. bar doesnt fill up thouhg...md5sum?04:01
VSpikeluke: I resisted those when they were annouced but OTOH they are touted as mainly bug fixes to 3.5.6 so could make the system *more* stable rather than less04:01
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VSpikeOh well, I've consulted widely with one person and they say it's fine so maybe I'll do it04:02
VSpike:)04:02
lukelol04:02
lukeeasily persuadable :)04:02
ubunturosfly: if you have downloaded the ISO file from a mirror, it would have a file called md5sum that contains the checksum.04:02
VSpikeluke: it's easy when you're just looking for "permission" to do something you already want to do ;)04:03
ubunturosfly: on the command line go to the directory where the ISO file is located using command line04:03
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ubunturosfly: and issue md5sum <isofilename.iso> and compare the two checksums04:03
lukeVSpike, lol, it's good to be careful04:03
VSpikeluke: yep. Is there an expected release date for Gutsy? Because if I do have problems they would likely be solved by a distro upgrade anyway.04:04
flyi just got iso04:04
lukeVSpike, October04:04
ubunturosfly: from a DVD?04:04
ubunturosfly: (of a magazine?)04:05
flydownload04:05
lukeVSpike, about the same time as KDE404:05
ubunturosfly: downloaded using a p2p client?04:05
flynopw04:05
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flyfrom kubuntu.org04:05
lukeVSpike, have you installed Amarok 1.4.6 yet?04:06
ubunturosfly: well, could you see a file called md5sum.txt or something of that sort?04:06
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eguzkiahello please i need help to install driver nvidia!!!04:07
VSpikeluke: yes04:07
eguzkiai have loss about 4 days with that stupid driver damn........04:07
VSpikeluke: i do have the backports repo enabled so I got that this morning04:08
flyfound them04:08
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ubunturosfly: compare the value with the one generated by the md5sum command04:08
jermainHi everyone04:09
jermainYou puny mortals! Respond to my salutations!04:09
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jermain:)04:09
ubunturosjermain: :)04:09
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jermaincan someone help me with something? I'm using the ftp command to upload stuff to a remote server and it works but04:10
flyubunturos command?04:10
eguzkiaplease someone use nvidia driver?04:10
jermaini can't select in which directory i want the file stored04:10
ubunturosfly: md5sum <isofilename.iso>04:10
NickPrestajermain, are you using the `cd` command to change the working directory?04:11
jermainyeah04:11
shadowhywindi just installed my hp printer in linux, and every program can see it but firefox, anyone have any ideas04:11
jermainbut it still stores it in the root dir04:11
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VSpikeeguzkia: you havne't said what the problem is or what you have already tried04:12
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NickPrestajermain, is there any sort of restriction on your server? have you tried with a GUI client?04:12
eguzkiaVSpike: i have installed nvidia-glx but i receive an error when startx (EE) no device found04:12
jermainit works with a GUI04:13
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jermainoh crap04:14
flyubunturos number same on dowloaded iso04:14
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jermainever had those days where you go "i need help" and when you get help you say "i allready tried that!"04:14
ubunturosfly: ok. Did you use a CD-R or CD-RW?04:14
jermainand then you try again and it works?04:14
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jermain...04:14
flycd r04:14
NickPrestajermain, heh. That has happened to me at least once =P04:15
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jermainit happened to me just now04:15
jermain:p04:15
jermainthe cd helped04:15
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ubunturosfly: used K3b to burn it?04:17
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JohnFlux_how can I tell what distro I'm running ?04:17
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JohnFlux_from the command line04:18
VSpikeeguzkia: could you paste output of "lspci | grep -i vga".  And does it work with the nv driver?04:18
ubunturosJohnFlux_: the base distro, lsb_release -a04:18
llutzJohnFlux_: lsb_release -id04:18
JohnFlux_hmm it has the program rpm04:18
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JohnFlux_ah thank you04:18
JohnFlux_hmm SuSE04:18
JohnFlux_:(04:18
flyubunturos nope this http://www.cdburnerxp.se/04:18
eguzkiaVSpike: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go]  (rev a3)04:19
ubunturosfly: possibly is a failed burnt. But I'm not sure. Try burning it to a CD-RW and test it. See what the results are04:19
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ubunturosJohnFlux_: not OpenSuSE?04:19
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flylost my only cd-rw :(04:20
JohnFlux_ubunturos: opensuse 10.204:20
ubunturosJohnFlux_: ah, I see04:20
jhutchinsUnder linux, you can check the md5sum of a burned CD to see if it's valid.  md5sum /dev/cdrom04:20
ubunturosfly: see ^^^^04:20
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ubunturosand compare the md5sum of the CD with that of the ISO04:21
eguzkiaVSpike: i have write "nvidia" in my /etc/modules, there isn't04:21
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VSpikeeguzkia: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=251427204:22
eguzkiaVSpike: i have write "nvidia" in my /etc/modules, but when i do lsmod there isn't04:22
eguzkiahow can i insert the nvdia module04:22
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flyim on windows though...04:24
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Lacrymologypeople, I'm sick of KDE... how do I install fluxbox?04:25
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ubunturosfly: currently?04:26
flyyeah04:26
ubunturosfly: ah, how did the md5sum work then?04:27
ubunturosfly: anyways, I would suggest burning the ISO to CD-RW at a low speed (say 4x) and try it out.04:27
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flyused dos.. ill try once i get one..ty04:28
oliver_hi, hi04:29
apetrescuArrg, for some reason, in Feisty they've split vim into 'vim' and 'vim-full', with a lot of very important functionality in the latter. The problem is, vim-full has a LOT of gnome-related dependencies that a Kubuntu user may not want to install (I don't). Is there any other supported way to get vim-full through repos, without pulling in all those ridiculous dependencies? (I *don't* need a GUI for vim, I just need things like syntax04:29
apetrescuhighlighting, which are in vim-full)04:29
oliver_i need help in getting swat to work ...04:30
Lacrymologyhow do I change the windows manager?04:30
walberSomeone work or already worked with wine(emulator of windows API)? Because I have some problems with install a application that only run on Windows XP.04:30
Jucatothe vim split was started in edgy btw...04:30
jermainapetrescu: why not just use kate?04:30
Jucatoapetrescu: try vim-runtime...04:30
apetrescujermain: Becuase I need a *console* editor.04:30
jermainicic04:30
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apetrescuJucato: vim-runtime will have syntax highlighting?04:30
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Jucatoapetrescu: iirc, yes04:31
apetrescuJucato, thanks!04:31
Jucatoapetrescu: you just then have to turn it on in .vimrc04:31
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apetrescuIs vim-full just a metapackage for all the other vim-related packages?04:31
apetrescuOh, yeah, I know :)04:31
Jucatoapetrescu: metapackage for the other split vim packages04:31
Jucatoand gvim04:31
apetrescuAah04:31
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apetrescuThat would explain all the gnome dependencies.04:31
apetrescuHmm, Jucato, vim-runtime doesn't fix it.04:33
apetrescuStill get: Error while processing vimrc, the command is not available in this version: syntax on04:33
Jucatohm... that's the only one I installed back then... can't recall now...04:33
apetrescuI'll try installing some language-specific ones, like vim-ruby, and hope that they pull in whatever is neccesary.04:34
apetrescuWhich seems to be vim-gui-common which has no dependencise04:34
apetrescuAh!04:34
apetrescuThat did it.04:34
apetrescuvim-gui-common04:34
Jucatoaho k04:35
Jucatoah ok*04:35
VSpikeeguzkia: did you try "sudo modprobe nvidia"04:35
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jermainhmm,.. i have another ftp problem. If i use a wildcard (*.txt), it only uploads the very first .txt file. Can someone tell me what im doing wrong?04:39
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VSpikejermain: you may have to use a command like mput04:40
ninHerhi all04:40
jermainooh, i'll try that. Thank you04:41
jermainhi ninHer04:41
VSpikejermain: you could also try ncftp.  It's command line, but a bit more intuitive that raw ftp04:41
ninHerhi all04:41
ninHersorry04:41
jermainhmm is ncftp much different from ftp?04:41
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VSpike jermain: it just has a lot of nice enhancements.  Like tab completion.  Bookmarks.  And the fact that if you do "put *.txt" it does what you expect :)04:44
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VSpikejermain: probably lots of other clever stuff too but those are the reasons I use it04:44
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geirHi, does anyone here know if Network Computings Officestation L200 works with Kubuntu 7.04?04:48
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Lacrymologywhat's a nice wllpaper setter?04:55
Lacrymologybecause I'm installing Eterm just for Esetroot04:55
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Arwenhey guys, apt-get build-dep amarok is broken05:06
zindensudo apt-get build-dep amarok05:07
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jermainVSpike: thanks man! it works like a charm xD05:21
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VSpikejermain: yw :)05:22
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hilaryhello?05:25
ubuntu__hello05:26
hilaryhey =)05:26
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hilaryanybody else here?05:27
zindenyepp05:27
hilaryhey =D05:28
hilarydo u know if Linux (or Ubuntu) can pick up viruses? i heard somewhere they were pretty immune coz like only 3 viruses have ever been made for linux05:28
Arwenhilary, nope.... and ick, Hilary?05:28
Arwen!u | hilary05:28
ubotuhilary: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..05:28
hilarysorry, i will say you next time05:29
hilaryim new to this so i apologise whole heartedly05:29
zindenhilary: there is a few viruses for linux, but not much though. If you like, you can install a virus program05:29
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hilaryok thank you05:29
Arwenand for the love of god, capitalize "I"... anyway, there are not a lot of viruses for Linux, mostly due to low adoption rates of Linux.05:29
Arwenthat of course doesn't mean you can't get a virus, so you should be smart about what you install05:29
jermainhilary: you dont have to worry about virusses on linux05:30
Arwenjermain, FALSE05:30
jermainpeople dont bother to because windows offers a lot more05:30
jermain*GASP*05:30
jermainArwen: ? I thought only companies would need to be scared?05:30
Arwenjermain, well, I guess, but it's a lie to say that you don't have to be worried05:31
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ArwenI'm not really worried about viruses on Windows either, but that's not to say they don't exist05:31
jermainyea but i always figured05:31
jermainfor a virus to do damage it would need a way to become root05:31
Arwenbesides, if you add a suspicious 3rd party repository, you could get nasty code that way05:32
jermainand sudo = <305:32
Arwenjermain, same as on Windows. It would have to be run as root/admin or exploit a privilege escalation bug.05:32
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Arwenin fact, I think the latest kernel update fixed one of those bugs05:32
jermain:(05:33
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jermaini much prefered when i was ignorent05:34
jermain:p05:34
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hilaryCan you recommend any anti-virus software, preferably software which is free?05:34
jermainthe repositories should have i think05:35
VSpikeclamav05:35
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Arwenhilary, you don't need anti-virus... use common sense isntead.05:35
jermainiVSpike: i was about to suggest that05:35
Arwenthat said, you can try using clamav if you want..05:35
jermain;)05:35
hilaryI lack common sense so I'll go with the Clamav05:35
Arwenye... whenever people ask me about av, I just say "use your brains"05:36
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jermainguess i'll get some clamav too :(05:36
arcsonola a todos05:37
jermainola05:37
arcsonestou tentando executar o phyton no meu ubuntu mas nao estou conseguiundo.05:37
arcsonalguem sabe como abilito esse pacote?05:37
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arcsonso um comentario .... a interface 3d do ubuntu e D++++++ conheci esses dias muito legal05:38
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zorglu_!gusty05:39
ubotuIt is spelt guTSy :)05:39
arcson?05:39
zorglu_what is the release date of gutsy ?05:40
Tm_T!release05:40
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:40
zorglu_Tm_T: thanks05:40
Tm_Tubotu: you never really sleep, do you?05:41
zorglu_hmm the page didnt contiains the info tho :) just the timebase stuff05:41
Tm_Tappaerntly he doesn't even dare to answer to that05:41
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zorglu_!feisty05:41
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:41
Tm_Tzorglu_: interesting05:42
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Tm_T!gutsy05:42
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+105:42
zorglu_Tm_T: ahhhhh i did a mistake in my very first query :)05:42
Tm_Tzorglu_: well you did, and ubotu corrected (;05:42
zorglu_Tm_T: i believed it was a geek joke or something05:43
Tm_Tit's not a joke, it's correction05:43
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Tm_Tright, ubotu?05:43
Tm_Thmh, why he doesn't speak to me :(05:43
zorglu_ubuntu.com is not konqueror friendly, a lot of bug due to javascrip05:44
zorglu_anybody remember when feisty has been released ?05:44
Tm_Tzorglu_: never noticed expect one small, related to window size05:44
zindenfesity: 19 april ?05:44
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zorglu_zinden: thanks05:44
Tm_Tyup05:44
brightedgeHello :)  I'm having a problem with 7.04 saving my wireless lan settings.  The first time I ran 7.04, it detected my Netgear WG511 and I was able to connect to my wlan.  After a reboot, I am unable to connect.  Lights are on the card, but nothing.  Can someone point me in the right direction?05:44
zorglu_so a lot of time before gutsy :)05:45
Tm_Tnot much05:45
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zorglu_http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=554110 <- brightedge try to read this, it may help05:47
brightedgethanks zorglu :)05:47
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hilaryI think I need more help =( When I try to go to any webpage, it says that an error has occured, saying 'Time out on Server, Connection was to ubuntu.com at port 80'05:48
hilaryHow do I rectify that? I can use my messengers (AIM and Yahoo) but cannot find webpages =(05:49
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hlpplsHi all05:51
hilaryHello =)05:51
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nosrednaekimhilary: did you only try konqueror?05:52
nosrednaekimhilary: try installing firefox and see if that works.05:52
hilaryI've just tried with Mozilla Firefox too05:52
nosrednaekimhilary: same thing?05:52
hilaryYep05:52
hilaryWell it says Connecting to (website) and the blue bar at the bottom right hand is frozen05:53
hilaryso I presume that means its going to time out eventually...05:53
nosrednaekimhilary: I keep forgetting what the fix to this is..05:53
nosrednaekimits a fairly common problem.05:53
hilaryis it?05:54
nosrednaekimhilary: yeah.05:54
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nosrednaekimcan you ping www.google.com?05:54
Arwenick... time to compile amarok...05:54
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hilaryI'm going to sound stupid but what does ping mean?05:54
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Arwen!ping05:55
ubotupong05:55
Arwen...05:55
nosrednaekimit means to try to contact05:55
ubuntuplop05:55
nosrednaekima server05:55
hilaryoh right05:55
Arwenping is a Internet IP protocol. You send a packet to a server and the server sends the packet back.05:55
hilaryit does nothing, it just says "failed to connect to google.com, time out" or something05:55
Arwenso if you receive it, your Internet works. If it doesn't, it's not working.05:55
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nosrednaekimhilary: you ran "ping www.google.com"?05:56
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Arwen!terminal | hilary05:56
ubotuhilary: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:56
Arwenwe're telling you to type "ping google.com" into a terminal05:56
hilaryyeah just tried it05:56
nosrednaekimhilary: result?05:57
Arwenand what *exactly* does it say?05:57
hilaryPING www.l.google.com (66.102.9.104) 56(84) bytes of data.05:58
hilary64 bytes from lm-in-f104.google.com (66.102.9.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=30.5 ms05:58
hilary64 bytes from lm-in-f104.google.com (66.102.9.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=30.9 ms05:58
hilary64 bytes from lm-in-f104.google.com (66.102.9.104): icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=29.3 ms05:58
hilary64 bytes from lm-in-f104.google.com (66.102.9.104): icmp_seq=4 ttl=241 time=30.6 ms05:58
hilarySomething like that05:58
Arwenok, so you have a working net connection at least05:58
nosrednaekimhilary: ok.. good05:58
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nosrednaekimI think its probably that ipv6 stuff05:58
hilaryipv6 stuff?05:59
nosrednaekim!ipv605:59
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:59
hilaryI have clicked that URL but it does not seem to be loading06:00
Arwenhah...06:00
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Arwenrun "kdesu /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"06:00
Admiral_Chicago!update06:01
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:01
Arwenrun "kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"*06:01
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hilaryok06:04
nosrednaekimhttp://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/06/21/upgrade-to-ubuntu-on-the-windows-marketplace/06:04
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hilarythat blacklist command just brought up this on the terminal.06:06
hilarykdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist06:06
hilaryX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16706:06
hilary  Major opcode:  14406:06
hilary  Minor opcode:  306:06
hilary  Resource id:  0x006:06
hilaryFailed to open device06:06
hilaryX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16706:07
hilary  Major opcode:  14406:07
hilary  Minor opcode:  306:07
hilary  Resource id:  0x006:07
hilaryFailed to open device06:07
hilaryX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16706:07
Arwen!pastebin | hilary06:07
ubotuhilary: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:07
faidillingerim watching porno06:07
Arwen!offtopic | faidillinger06:07
ubotufaidillinger: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:07
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hilaryI wont be able to use pastebin, it just says timeout on server when I click any links06:08
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faidillingerallright06:08
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Arwenhilary, oh yeah... lol06:08
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jhutchinshilary: There's another pastebin at http://wiki.mandriva.com/06:08
Arwenanyway, in that case, could you dump output like that to another channel? maybe #anon32 ?06:08
Arwenjhutchins, she has HTTP issues06:08
jhutchinsD'Oh!06:08
llutzhilary: sudo echo blacklist ipv6 >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist06:09
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jhutchinshttp://rafb.net/paste/06:09
Arwenzzz... compiling amarok is such a PITA...06:09
ArwenI had to install half of KDE before I had enough headers..06:09
zindenme too  ;) so you are not alone when it comes to compiling amarok06:11
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nosrednaekimRiddell hasn't released debs for it yet?06:11
ismailhi all06:11
ismaildid anyone here have problems with beryl?06:12
Dr_willisberyl IS a problem. :)06:12
ismailok how about compiz?06:12
llutzberyl-probs easy solution: sudo aptitude remove beryl06:12
Arwennosrednaekim, there's only inferior non-mp4 debs out..06:12
nosrednaekimArwen: oh06:13
RiddellArwen: xine should work with mp406:13
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ismailin either beryl or compiz im having a problem with the window decoration06:13
ismailit dissapears06:13
ArwenRiddell, not MP4 the container, MP4 *tags*06:13
Dr_willisBeryl is still very muich a work in progress....06:13
ArwenBeryl is DEAD06:13
Arwenstop using it, move to compiz06:14
zindenLOOOL06:14
Arwenthat's not a joke..06:14
ismaili'm trying to use compiz Arwen but the windows decoration doesnt work06:14
Arwenismail, is your card nvidia?06:14
ismailyes06:14
ismaili installed the drivers06:14
ismailand 3d works06:15
Arwendo you have addarbglxvisuals somewhere in your xorg.conf ?06:15
Arwen(I think that's what it is)06:15
ismailwhen i use ubuntu i dont have this problem06:15
ismailonly in kubuntu06:15
ismailhmmm lemme check the xorg conf06:15
Arwenhmm06:15
deepAddARGBLXVisuals (:06:16
deepXLG*06:16
deephaha06:16
deepGLX, even06:16
deepAddARGBGLXVisuals06:16
deeplong word06:16
ismailwhere to?06:16
ismailwhich secsion?06:16
deepDevice (;:06:16
Arwenismail, just check if that word is in it. We'll tell you how to add it if it's not.06:16
Arwenoh wait, if it works in ubuntu but not kubuntu....06:17
zindenworks in both06:17
Arwenismail, try installing "compiz-kde" or "emerald"06:17
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Arwenyay, amarok done compiling06:18
ismailunder device. the identifier is nvidia (medel) and driver is nvidia06:18
ismailthats it06:18
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ismailArwen iv already tried that.. it doesnt work06:19
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ismaili'm wondering it has something to do with metacity06:19
jhutchinsismail: Beryl/compiz is alpha-test software that doesn't work for a majority of systems running linux.  Even when it works one day, any changes to the system, especially the graphics system or beryl/compiz, may cause it to break the next day.06:20
jhutchinsismail: Your best bet is to either back out the last change you made, if it was working for you, or to wait for the next update.06:20
jhutchinsismail: Actually finding and fixing the bug is likely to be futile, as the bug will move in the next update.06:21
ismailAddARGBLXVisuals is not in the xorg.conf06:21
jhutchinsismail: Running KDE on one of the 3D desktops is an additional challenge, and it's not surprizing if it doesn't work.06:21
ismaili guess so06:22
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Tm_Tfaidillinger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:23
ismailit would have been nice if i could get compix working06:23
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ismailok here is another one.. can we use the opensuse kmenu on kubuntu?06:25
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shenteyHi! How can I always execute a shell script as root? If I set the suid bit it fails.06:25
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shenteyIf I run the same script with sudo it works correctly. So what am I doing wrong?06:26
ismaili dont know if im right but i dont think you can make a script run as root by it self06:27
ismailyou have to grant it privilages06:28
ismailhave you tried sudo -s?06:28
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Briareos118:31]  <Briareos1> when i do a right click in konqueror it needs more than a minute to open the box. this is since 2-3 days like that. any ideas?06:31
Briareos1[18:31]  <Briareos1> while this is the konqueror hangs completely06:31
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shenteyYes, this runs correctly.06:31
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shenteyHow can I then run a script as root without user interaction?06:33
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chris_scummettehi there06:34
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BrianDonohueHey all.06:39
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BrianDonohueHey ashu1806:40
BrianDonohueHow's the CD problem?06:40
ashu18DaSkreech: hav u changd my password again? plz give it to me06:40
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BrianDonohueDo you check to see if people are even here?06:40
ashu18BrianDonohue: it's as bad as ever06:40
BrianDonohueHe's in a different timezone than you are.06:40
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BrianDonohueHe's probably sleeping.06:40
BrianDonohueIf he was at work last night at 130 my time then that means it's probably night right now.06:41
ashu18BrianDonohue: well he told he ll be avaialable around 10 pm ist06:41
BrianDonohueOh.06:41
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ashu18anyway, he has changed my user password...i need it.........06:42
BrianDonohueWell listen, to be honest, I think something during your install broke. Instead of fiddling around, I would just reinstall because it's a fresh install anyway.06:42
ashu18BrianDonohue: hah!!! i hav reinstalled about a 100 times06:42
BrianDonohueHm, I don't know.06:42
BrianDonohueAutomounting just "works" for me so I can't really be much help.06:43
BrianDonohueThe best we could do is reset your password again.06:43
ashu18BrianDonohue: k i ll hav to catch tomorrow...06:43
ashu18he should hav told me that he had reset the password06:43
BrianDonohueHe did, the first time.06:43
ashu18well there wasn't any need to change it then06:44
BrianDonohueHe changed it because you asked him to, so other people couldn't get in.06:44
ashu18another guy says Samsung CD-RW drives have a known compatibility problem with most linux distros and i will hav to upgrade the firmware06:45
BrianDonohueWell, you can't do anything right now but wait to get the password back from him.06:45
ashu18but i don't hav windows to do it06:45
ashu18yeah.....ok bye then....see u later06:45
ashu18oh yes, do u know any good games in ubuntu...something 3d06:46
BrianDonohueAmerica's Army06:46
BrianDonohueUT200406:46
BrianDonohueNexius06:46
_4str1wolfstein06:46
_4str1cube206:46
ashu18whoa!! a bunch of them!!!06:47
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ashu18are they insteresting?06:47
ksivajiashu18 hi dude06:47
ashu18ksivaji: hullo06:47
_4str1!game06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
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ksivaji!dma06:47
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ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA06:48
ashu18_4str1 : ksivaji: BrianDonohue: why don't u hav 'Kubotu' here?? why ubotu?06:48
ksivaji!ubotu | ashu1806:49
ubotuashu18: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:49
ashu18ksivaji: i don't want information...i mean this is a #kubuntu channel so u should hav 'kubotu'06:49
ashu18anyway, gotta go now....hopefully DaSkreech will be there 2moro.........g'nite all!06:50
ksivajiashu18 bye06:50
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semistud2354does anyone know how to get my java running in 64bit firefox06:50
ksivajisemistud2354 ya06:50
semistud2354and flash06:50
semistud2354i looked online and i dont see 64 bit support06:51
ksivajisemistud2354 wait06:51
semistud2354for flash06:51
ksivajisemistud2354 http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html06:51
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semistud2354thats all for 32 bit systems06:54
LucidFoxis it possible not to launch kicker on KDE startup?06:54
ksivajisemistud2354 you have 64bit kubuntu06:54
ksivaji?06:55
semistud2354yea06:55
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ksivajisemistud2354 how do u say that http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html is for  32bit06:55
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semistud2354flash is not in my package list06:56
semistud2354for adept06:56
semistud2354where on my 32 bit installation06:56
semistud2354it was there from the start06:57
ksivajisemistud2354 have u enable universal repo06:57
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ksivaji!univ06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about univ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:57
semistud2354uhh no06:58
ksivaji!universal06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about universal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
semistud2354i dunno06:58
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semistud2354is there like a flash player that other ppl made06:59
semistud2354thats a plug in06:59
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ismailyeah06:59
ksivajisemistud2354 http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html see first one install/enabling additional  plugin06:59
ismailthere is an opensource project for flash07:00
llutzgnash07:00
semistud2354have you tryed it07:01
semistud2354does it work07:01
ksivajiis there any risk in enabling dma07:01
not_a_kwhen i click accept on calendar events that people send me they end up in korganizer at 2:30 rather than the actual time they were set for. any idea what's wrong here?07:01
llutzksivaji: usually not, it will be disabled if it doesnt work07:02
semistud2354whats better gnash or klash07:02
ksivajillutz how to check it is enabled or not ?07:03
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llutzksivaji: hdparm -d /dev/your-device07:04
ksivaji llutz using_dma    =  1 (on) i think it on right07:05
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ksivaji llutz using_dma    =  1 (on) i think it is on right07:05
llutzksivaji:" on " means on, syes07:05
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ksivajillutz tell me simple open source package because i want to digg it07:06
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ksivajidigg means study or learn or understand07:07
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pyrotixHALP. I just ctr alt backspaced by background and now I have no wallpaper, only black. What do I need to launch to have it back to normal?07:07
jhutchins_ltksivaji: Actually, digg is a link sharing blog/site, dig is the word you're after.07:07
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jhutchins_ltpyrotix: Should restart automatically.  What had you done before that?07:08
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pyrotixhad konq and amarok crash07:08
pyrotixrestarting the computer will fix it07:08
ksivajijhutchins_lt sorry i am poor in english i cant understand that can u rephrase that for me07:08
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pyrotixbut for future reference is there anything I can do to launch while still logged in?07:09
jhutchins_ltksivaji: The word you are looking for is "dig", not "digg".07:09
ksivajijhutchins_lt ho thank u07:09
jhutchins_ltksivaji: Well, if you're still on windows, there's firefox, an open-source browser.07:10
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ksivajijhutchins_lt i am windows  kubuntu07:10
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jhutchins_ltksivaji: Then everything you're running is open source.07:10
shadowhywindhay all having a werid issue, if i leave my computer sit for like 5 mins without doing anything.. when i come back, its becomes very slow07:11
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ksivajijhutchins_lt i just started using this i have only little knowledge on programming so i am searching for simple software not like firefox07:12
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jhutchins_ltksivaji: Ah, you want to look through the source code for something simple.07:12
ksivajishadowhywind do u have swap partition07:12
shadowhywindyes07:12
ksivajijhutchins_lt yes07:12
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ksivajishadowhywind "swapon -s" paste the output here07:13
shadowhywinddev/sda6                               partition       522072  0       -107:13
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ksivajishadowhywind sorry if you have swap partiton on file it will be slow thats what i tried but u have swap on sda07:15
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shadowhywindbut why would that make it slow, only if i don't touch the comp for like 5 mins?07:15
shadowhywindits not like i am running any ram intensive programs07:16
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ksivajishadowhywind because unused program will be moved to swap memory07:16
shadowhywindincludeing my mouse?07:17
ksivajihow much ram u have07:17
shadowhywind2 gigs07:17
ksivajii means size07:17
SeanTater9/10 of my packets are bring dropped, and when I disabled SPI on my router, it improves to 4/5. Is my router just dropping that many packets?07:18
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ksivajijhutchins_lt : you got anything07:18
shadowhywindksivaji and i have had this same sort of setup (harddrive partitions before and never had this issue07:19
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ksivajishadowhywind sorry i cant get you can u rephrase that for me07:19
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jhutchins_ltksivaji: I'm a sysadmin, not a coder.  Init scripts are a good place to start!07:22
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ksivajijhutchins_lt ok fine07:22
ksivajijhutchins_lt you are a system admin in which  firm07:23
jhutchins_ltIndependent consultant.07:24
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jhutchins_ltI spend lots of time doing housework and training horses instead.07:24
BrianDonohueLol jhutchins_lt, ashu18 came back.07:24
shadowhywindjsivaji sorry for the deley had to take care ofsoemthing, what i meant to say was,   I   have had this same sort of set up with the swap on the saaame harddrive before ad no issues.07:24
shadowhywindFunny thing, After you sent your last message to me, i left when i came back my compter s now fully slo again..07:25
jhutchins_ltBrianDonohue: Yeah, sorry I missed him.07:25
jhutchins_ltBrianDonohue: Hope he learned something.  Did he manage to get into his system?07:25
shadowhywindand my swap   is still completely free07:25
BrianDonohuejhutchins_lt: Yeah, he did, after DaSkreech walked him through the repair with his LiveCD and then he got DaSkreech to ssh back in again to figure out the mounting problem, the DaSkreech changed the password as you did and so ashu18 is locked out again.07:26
BrianDonohueLol.07:26
BrianDonohueHe refuses to learn.07:27
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BrianDonohuethen*07:27
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zombielioni was needing help installing mplayer everytime i try to install it says break install07:28
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ksivajizombielion use aptitude07:30
BrianDonohuejhutchins_lt: So at the moment he's stuck doing nothing, because I didn't remember how to reset his password and then he left.07:31
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zombielioni have kubuntu 7.04 and i have been trying in the adept manager07:33
jhutchins_ltBrianDonohue: From the live CD, mount the root partition rw, edit /etc/shadow and _remove_ the user password.07:33
jhutchins_ltThe mounting problem should be fixed, I edited his fstab.07:33
ksivajizombielion "sudo aptitude install mplayer" run this command07:33
jhutchins_ltBrianDonohue: Wasn't trying to mess him up, he just departed in such haste...07:34
BrianDonohueI know.07:34
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BrianDonohuejhutchins_lt: Part of it is his refusal to understand what's happening.07:35
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crocodileI want to remove amarok, but apt is going to also remove kubuntu-desktop package07:43
crocodilewhy, and how do I stop it?07:43
llutzcrocodile: why stopping it? its just a meta-package07:44
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crocodileare you sure it won't uninstall all of KDE?07:46
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jhutchins_ltcrocodile: Right.07:47
HymnToLife'course not07:47
llutzcrocodile: yes07:47
tps1your anthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74xThdyCk9o07:47
HymnToLifeAmarok isn't even part of KDE anyway07:47
polopoloI cannot use Add/remove programs anymore on kubuntu 7.0407:47
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jhutchins_ltcrocodile: The deal is, once you remove amarok, you don't have all of the packages in kubuntu-desktop.07:47
jhutchins_ltcrocodile: If it didn't remove that, next time you updated it would re-install amarok.07:47
crocodilegotcha, what else for example is in that package?07:48
jhutchins_ltcrocodile: Nothing.07:48
HymnToLifein the package itself ? nothing07:48
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Arwencrocodile, hate to jump in too, but the *-desktop packages just exist so you can easily install all of X version. They have nothing in them.07:48
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jhutchins_ltcrocodile: It has dependencies, like a normal package, so when you install it it pulls all of the programs for the desktop.07:48
llutzcrocodile: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop07:49
crocodilethanks guys sound like a no brainer, amarok and kubuntu-desktop are gone now :>07:49
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ardchoille!meta07:49
crocodilellutz - thanks it says it's safe too07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
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Tm_T!info kubuntu-desktop07:50
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ninixhi07:50
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB07:50
polopoloNobody can hep my?07:50
Tm_Tpolopolo: how you can't use it?07:50
ninixis there a way to modify the way of item placement in the KDE menu ? like.... i want all soft in Menu->KIND..... and not Menu->KIND->More Applicatio07:51
hyper__chhiho07:51
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polopoloThe error says another adept ot apt-get is running07:51
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devnull!pidgin07:52
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.07:52
ardchoilleninix: Yes, open the menu editor and move the items in he "more apps" fodlers.. move those out of that folder and it works fine.07:52
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polopoloTm_T: The error says another adept ot apt-get is running07:52
devnullAnyone know how to get pidgin installed?07:52
Tm_Tpolopolo: well, close the other app?07:53
metbsdhow do i get resolution of 1280x800?07:53
ardchoille!fixres07:53
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:53
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nosrednaekimdevnull: get it from here www.getdeb.net07:53
polopoloI not running another question07:53
Tm_Tpolopolo: sure?07:53
nosrednaekimmetbsd: what type of graphics card do you have?07:53
polopoloSure07:53
ardchoillepolopolo: Is adept open? synaptic? aptitude?07:53
metbsdhow to check07:53
polopoloI only running Konversation07:53
polopoloadept: no synaptic: no aptitude: no!07:54
Schuenemannwhich program can I use for editing videos? like inserting subtitles, for example07:54
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nosrednaekimmetbsd: just follow that lin that uboto said07:56
metbsdhow do i check what video card i have07:56
ninixardchoille: emm no. cause i will be forced to do this manually everytime i install a new app07:56
polopoloNo answer?07:56
polopoloI already have restarted my pc07:56
devnullnosrednaekim: any repos by chance? and if not, how do i install .deb (been years since I used debian) iirc its dpkg, correct?07:57
nosrednaekim"dpkg -i <package location>"07:58
Arwendevnull, what are we trying to do? and yes, it's "dpkg -i"07:58
devnullArwen: Pidgin ^_^07:58
ardchoilleninix: How often do you install new apps? I haven't installed a new app since Feisty was released. Besides it only takes a few seconds to move those items out of the more apps folder.07:58
Arwenthere's a repository for that, devnull07:58
nosrednaekimdevnull: I don't know... get deb might have a repo07:58
devnullgah it does feel better to get off that suse garbage thouygh =/07:58
Arwendevnull, add "deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu feisty main" to your sources.list07:59
ninixardchoille: i know, but it strange this only appear since i installed something like "kmenu-gnome-apps.........."07:59
Arwenthat has pidgin in it07:59
ninixthat's why i was searching an option07:59
Tm_Tpolopolo: do in konsole: "ps aux | grep adept"07:59
ninixthx anyway07:59
devnullArwen: Awesome. Ty ^_^07:59
devnullKubuntu is looking so much better since I last tried it (breezy)07:59
polopoloTm_T: and then?07:59
Arwendevnull, oh yeah, if you happen to want a newever freetype, tack "fonts" onto that line08:00
Tm_Tpolopolo: what does it give?08:00
polopoloshould I use paste.ubuntu-nl.org?08:00
Tm_Tsure08:00
nosrednaekimdevnull: good to hear it!08:00
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devnullBeen pretty much everywhere. suse, gentoo, etc. However I'm finding kubuntu/ubuntu's "it just works" bit a little relieving08:01
metbsdbut how do i check what my video card is?08:01
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llutzmetbsd: lspci|grep -i vga08:02
metbsdi'm doing dpkg xorg reconfigure08:02
polopoloTn_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26760/08:02
DaveTheAveHelp me quick! I think i just killed the server!!! I ran usermod -G gooma david and now the ONLY user david can't sudo!!!!! All i was trying to do was add david to the gooma group!!08:02
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DaveTheAveplz help me!08:04
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metbsdsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom08:04
metbsdsudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'08:04
metbsdsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:04
metbsdoops08:04
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metbsdIntel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller08:05
metbsdthis is the video card i have08:05
metbsdwhat should i choose in configuration08:05
nosrednaekimDaveTheAve: I think you have to boot recovery mode08:05
polopoloTm_T: and then?08:06
DaveTheAve??08:06
Tm_Tpolopolo: well, give the url (:08:06
DaveTheAveWhat will i do than?08:06
Tm_Tah you did, my bad08:06
nosrednaekimmetbsd: intel08:06
nosrednaekimmetbsd: or i810, not sure what it has08:06
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llutzmetbsd: i think it's i81008:07
nosrednaekimDaveTheAve: I think you can just run passwd.08:07
DaveTheAveok thanks08:07
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metbsdi'm going to reboot08:08
metbsdhopefully new setting will work08:08
metbsdis this the right way to test new resolution? reboot?08:08
Tm_Tpolopolo: hum, and "lsof / | grep apt" ?08:08
llutzmetbsd: ctrl-atl-backspace08:08
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polopolohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26761/08:09
polopoloTm_T http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26761/08:10
Tm_Thum08:10
Arwenhey guys, I have an Intel X3000 GMA and the "i810" driver doesn't seem to work with it08:10
Tm_Tinteresting08:10
Tm_Tpolopolo: hum, I recommend to try use apt-get or something, I just don't understand08:11
nosrednaekimArwen: is that the newest chipset?08:11
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Arwennosrednaekim, it's in the G965 chipsets... I think the latest is 97508:11
Arwencan't say how new or old it is though08:11
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nosrednaekimArwen: oh.. ok. is there an "intel" driver in that list?08:12
necroi still have no right resolution08:12
Arwennosrednaekim, hmm, I'll go check08:12
llutzArwen: i810 should work, used it here with my 965g before08:12
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Arwenllutz, not working here...08:13
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firephotoArwen: on feisty install the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver08:13
Arwenfirephoto, ok, thanks08:14
necrocan't get my 1280x800 resolution08:14
nosrednaekim!fixres | necro08:14
ubotunecro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:14
polopoloTm_T: I have the answer08:15
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devnullIs there a way to get the recently used programs on the kde menu?08:16
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fusiogencoucou!08:17
hyper_chfusiogen: coucou08:18
Tm_Tpolopolo: oki08:18
nosrednaekimdevnull: yeah, wondering that myself08:18
necroi don't have monitorrange in ddcprobe command08:18
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hyper_chdevnull: sure its somehow possible08:18
drknshello fella08:18
drknss08:18
devnullYeah heh. Thats the only thing that kinda bugs me. Everything else is great08:18
polopoloTm_T: dpkg --configure -a is the answer :D08:19
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drknsi wold like to see mov files what is the codec or program to use?08:19
devnullhyper_ch: Not necessarily. It could be the way kde was compiled08:19
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hyper_chdevnull: since it's open source you could modify it ;)08:19
devnullhyper_ch: true ;)08:20
Tm_Tpolopolo: interesting, yet, I don't understand08:20
Arwenhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007062209235346 - hey guys, even MS agrees that K/Ubuntu rules!08:20
devnullBut tbh, I've had my fill of compiling kde lol08:20
hyper_chis for anyone else amarok failing to submit to last.fm?08:20
polopoloTm_T: I also not08:20
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nosrednaekimhyper_ch: seems to be working here08:21
Tm_Tpolopolo: you said it whines about other apt so... bah, I don't care (:08:21
Arwenwhee... now hundreds of other people know what kind of bad music I listen too08:21
devnullArwen: I agre its pointless08:21
hyper_chArwen: for showing off what kind of music you like :)08:21
Tm_TArwen: well, I use it as for myself08:21
wilmanHey guys, when in audacity I setup this function : play other tracks while recording, after i recorded, the recorded stuff suddenly disapears. every time when I finished recording with this function it is just gone08:21
polopoloTm_T: it says the error08:21
nosrednaekimwilman: #audacity08:21
Tm_TArwen: I don't care if other's don't look what I listen, but I can easily see what I have listened and when08:22
Arwenhmm08:22
drknsok no application for apple quick time files????08:22
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Arwendrkns, stop talking in AOL first of all..08:22
Arwensecond, it's "QuickTime"08:22
Arwenthird, every single media player available plays it, you just FAIL08:22
drkns?? what AOL08:23
Arwen!restrictedformats | drkns08:23
ubotudrkns: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:23
nosrednaekimArwen: I think he's foreign... be nice08:23
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Arwennext time read the f***ing manual before asking questions...08:23
Arwennosrednaekim, I wasn't commenting on his English but rather his usage of multiple '?'s08:23
jhutchins_ltHe's just excited.08:24
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Arwenlol08:24
drknsArwen, I just switched to kubuntu from vista and i am not an IRC user as well but if your the kind of person who use linux, I will go back to vista again08:25
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devnullhmm08:25
_4strO!nvidia08:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:25
devnullwhy is java being a pain to install?08:25
Tm_Tdrkns: glad we are not all like that (:08:25
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Tm_TArwen: behave08:25
Arwendrkns, suite yourself. I believe they tell you to read the f***ing manual in ##windows too.08:25
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=== Arwen hears too many of those questions each day, sorry...
nosrednaekim!attitude | Arwen08:26
ubotuArwen: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:26
Tm_TArwen: one more in that attitude and you're out08:26
nosrednaekimwell... that wasn't right08:26
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nosrednaekimdrkns: did you read that link from ubotu?08:26
drknsi dont give a shit how many times you here this kind of question just get out of here or just dont f****kin read my s***t ok08:26
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Arwenwell well..08:27
Tm_Tdrkns: calm down, everything is ok now (;08:27
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Arwen!attitude | drkns08:27
ubotudrkns: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:27
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drknsbye08:27
Arwen..08:27
nosrednaekimlook... what.... you..... did...08:27
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devnullHaving a problem with package manager I think. Keeps telling me it can't do anything. Hold for details08:28
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andrea,nmm,n08:29
ferronicaneed help regarding Ktorrent using under gnome08:29
nosrednaekimdevnull: I doubt the details are going to be so shocking that i'm going to flip out of my chair08:29
ksivajidevnull you means adept08:29
Tm_TArwen: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct08:29
Arwenferronica, details?08:29
nosrednaekim;)08:29
devnullksivaji: correct08:29
ArwenTm_T, yes, I'm sorry, just frustrated08:29
Tm_TArwen: I'm too, so, please, try08:29
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devnullblah. That was dumb. It kept messing up w/ java because I didn't scroll down and hit the tickbox...08:30
Tm_Tdevnull: <308:30
Tm_Tisn't that lovely?08:30
ferronicaArwen: i think bug problem08:30
ksivajidevnull  "sudo dpkg --configure -a" run this commnad08:30
devnullTm_T: xD08:30
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Arwenferronica, more details? lol08:31
devnullksivaji: a step ahead actually ^_^08:31
ksivajidevnull what happen08:31
ksivajiwhat error u get08:31
Tm_Tit's time for me to go... behave and have fun with peace!08:31
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Tm_Tyay -<08:31
ksivajidevnull08:32
ferronicaArwen: i am unable to remove one torrent from it08:32
Arwenthat's really odd, does it say anything?08:32
devnullksivaji: finally got it fixed. It was due to the fact that I did not know there was a checkbox for the java install. So i blindly hit next next08:32
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ksivajidevnull lol08:32
ferronicaArwen: it took me to crash handler window08:32
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Arwenhmm, well, dunno what to say, sounds like a bug :-)08:33
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ferronicaArwen: should i give you Backtrace k-torrent generated??08:33
Arwennah, I know nothing about programming, rather, go file a bug report08:33
ferronicaArwen: but other torrent which  i added recently working fine08:35
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devnullAnything to look out for in the 64bit version of kubuntu feisty? Getting ready to install on my other pc08:36
nosrednaekimdevnull: bad support for java, falsh, and of course 32 bit apps08:36
nosrednaekimbut thats about standard I heaar08:36
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Arwendevnull, what nosrednaekim said08:37
Arwenyou miss out on a few apps08:37
ferronicaArwen: Cannot delete /home/tushar/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/: Directory not empty08:37
Arwenand probably some proprietary drivers08:37
Arwenferronica, do it manually?08:37
ferronicaArwen: how ?08:37
Arwen...08:38
Arwenrm -r /home/tushar/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor008:38
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zoohouseAnyone here familiar with the Gopher protocol?08:39
graffalguem sabe dixer o nome do canal do ubuntu em pt???08:40
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ferronicaArwen: whatever under tor0 should i delete all?08:40
BrianDonohueI've got an interesting situation for anyone willing to help: I'd like to be able to remotely access my machine (basic ssh) but be able to do it graphically08:40
venik212I attached a USB drive to my computer, but the icon keeps disappearing from my Kubuntu 7.04 desktop08:41
Arwenferronica, well, that would be a guaranteed solution :-)08:41
ferronicaArwen: ok i did08:41
venik212I can see the drive from /media and I can access it, but why does it disappear?08:41
Arwenferronica, try again?08:42
graffalguem fala portugues?08:42
hyper_ch!pt | graff08:43
ubotugraff: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.08:43
graffok08:43
ferronicaArwen: yes it worked08:43
BrianDonohueOr anyone that might know even the basics about SSH08:43
llutzBrianDonohue: use freenx/nxserver08:43
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ferronicaArwen: all torrent info deleted which are in tor008:43
BrianDonohueI was thinking just XDMPC08:45
llutzBrianDonohue: too slow :)08:45
zoohouseAnyone here familiar with the Gopher protocol?08:45
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walber<BrianDonohue> Or you can try use vnc, it can be use in Windows and Linux too. Another option is krdc of the kubuntu.08:47
hyper_chI use krdc/krfb even in Xubuntu08:48
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walberThis is really interesting tools for access and control a desktop for another machine.08:50
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venik212I attached a USB drive to my computer, but the icon keeps disappearing from my Kubuntu 7.04 desktop08:51
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slow-motionhallo08:51
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venik212I can see the drive from /media and I can access it, but why does it disappear?08:51
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walber<venik212> Did you try to press F5 button and refresh the screen?08:53
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venik212It seems to do nothing08:53
venik212(F5, that is)08:54
venik212I can choose Refresh Desktop from the context menu, but that does nothng as well08:54
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necroso where do i check what software is available in kubuntu?08:55
necroi want to install many many things08:55
ardchoillenecro: you can browse through adept08:55
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walberBut you are sure that your pendrive is mounted?08:55
necroso if it's not found in adepte i'm out of luck?08:55
ardchoillenecro: No, you probably don't have all the repos enabled.08:56
ardchoille!repos | necro08:56
ubotunecro: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:56
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ardchoillenecro: And if it isn't in the repos, you can install from ubuntu .debs as well.08:56
q-ika lost my sound when i install a camera canon - amarok crashed :( no sound no where :/08:56
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ardchoillenecro: Keep in mind that the ubuntu repos are huge, I've never had to compile anything.08:58
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walber<venik212> The icon that appear in desktop when a pendrive is pluggin is a text file that contain informations of the device + kde informations too.09:00
yourfriendardchoille - thank god its not like Gentoo or BSD .. LOL09:00
ardchoillelol09:01
venik212Actually, it is not a pendrive but a USB disk drive (500 gb).  When I clciked on it, I could access everything on the drive09:01
venik212clicked, even09:01
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Arwenardchoille, no matter how large the repos are, if you need a feature that's disabled by default for stupid reasons... compiling time..09:02
devnullheh09:02
ardchoilleArwen: True09:02
devnullGentoo is not all that bad. The compiling does get old after a while though.09:02
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devnullall easy compiles ^_^09:03
Arwencompiling takes too long :-\09:03
Arwendevnull, mplayer was tricky actually09:03
devnullkde/glibc =/09:03
ardchoilledevnull: Well, for folks like me that haven't been able to find libpatience.so.0, that would get old in about 5 minutes, lol09:03
devnullardchoille: lol yeah =/09:03
Arwenas for why you need to build your own kde/glib..09:03
devnullArwen: in gentoo I meant09:04
Arwenah09:04
Arwenbut portage does it all for you09:04
devnullTrue, doesn't mean I always use portage though09:04
devnulland for the most part, portage only sets the proper configure time options to pass, then compiles09:05
yourfrienddevnull >> gentoo is for suckerz. lol jk09:05
ArwenGentoo has binary KDE doesn't it?09:05
yourfrienddevnull >> Its just not a usable system for most general users09:05
devnullArwen: Nope09:05
devnullVery few binaries at all09:06
Arwenwell, I coulda sworn they provided binary packages for those that didn't have uber-cpus09:06
devnullI loved it, it just gets old having to recompiling completely for a x.0.0.1 change09:06
yourfrienddevnull >> yeah thats all gentoo can do is compile. lmao09:06
yourfriendKubuntu rocks!09:07
Arwenon the other hand, if you compile everything, that means you get exactly the features you want09:07
devnullIt does however, when done properly, create a very stable and efficient system. Just not for people like me who like bleeding edge09:07
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devnullArwen: Exactly.09:07
yourfriendyes but it well never have a major install base09:07
yourfriendlook what i started... ugh09:08
ArwenLinux doesn't have a major install base either,, but yeah, back on topic now09:08
devnullTbh your quite right yourfriend09:08
yourfriendArwen : thats what all of us are trying to change09:08
yourfriend=)09:09
devnullIt is not for the basic users and never will be. However it is a GREAT learning experience09:09
BrianDonohueWhat about simple SSH? Anyone have any clue about that?09:09
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yourfrienddev >> right you are.  but for us total nerds. lol09:09
devnullAnd I'm glad I had the oppurtunity to learn it myself.09:09
devnullyourfriend: xD09:09
yourfrienddev >> I can give Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu to my grandmother or a friend who is a lawyer and they can use it without any issue09:10
yourfrienddev >> now that kicks ass!09:10
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devnullyourfriend: Your absolutely right. This pc im on is for my family. I got sick of troubleshooting windows issues with my retarded father who decides he is going to physically delete antivirus files and wonder why viruses get in09:11
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devnullI mean its great when you restart the computer and get: ntldr not found.09:11
yourfrienddev >> yes. malware is most often propigated by user ignorance as any other factor but Linux helps a bit on that front09:12
devnullVery true. I have not had to troubleshoot anything like that since switching them to linux. (well except that my brother plays that retarded runescape game and was complaining about the game freezing after like 20 minutes or something)09:12
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yourfrienddevnull > all OS's have bugs eh?09:13
devnullBut that was on suse, hoping the issue is non-existant now. Suse is bloated.09:13
yourfrienddevnull > suse is also crap09:13
devnullagreed. And the community is horrid.09:13
yourfrienddev >> I think you mean "community"09:14
yourfrienddev >> lol09:14
devnullonce again, agreed.09:14
devnullThey all have that "german superiority" complex.09:14
BrianDonohue!info vega-strike09:14
ubotuPackage vega-strike does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:14
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yourfrienddevnull >> who cares about them they are irrelevant >> Its all about Canonical, Redhat, IBM, HP,Sun in the FOSS space09:15
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devnullAnd all they do is sit there and bash on *ubuntu in the channel09:15
tsdgeoslol, canonical better than novell?09:15
tsdgeosfanboys09:15
yourfriend> I dont even know a single company in the dozens I work for that even EVER used Novell09:16
devnullI will agree with that.09:16
yourfriendwasted 0's and 1's09:16
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devnullonly school iirc09:16
devnullthey used that novell program (god if I Remember the name)09:16
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devnullgroupware or groupwise09:17
yourfriend>> hold on a sec let me check if Novell Netware is a success?  Oh, yeah.. total failure. lol09:17
devnullsomething like that09:17
devnullyeah netware09:17
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yourfriendI call it crapware09:17
devnullhehe09:17
yourfriendfukem who cares09:17
yourfriendthey can hold hands with MS all they want09:17
devnullIn the world of *nix its the community that matters.09:17
yourfriendrgr that09:17
devnullYou have no community, you have no support.09:18
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yourfriendprojects are significantly community driven but with considerable corporate sponsorship and investment09:18
yourfriendyes09:18
yourfriendyes09:18
devnullI found it relieving to come here, ask a question and be immediately answered, without people questioning my reasoning09:18
yourfrienddevnull > because we are not a-holes like the Openbsd peeps09:19
devnullheh true09:19
hyper_chdevnull: /me questions your nickname ^^09:19
walber<venik212> In configuration system > Desktop > Behave you can choise what icons of devices you want(mounted or not).09:19
BrianDonohuelinux_vegastrike-cvs.sh: 26: Syntax error: Bad substitution09:19
BrianDonohueWhat do that mean?09:19
BrianDonohueLine 26 of the shell script?09:19
devnullI find it very funny in suse that they think their package management system is so godly, and refuse to support anything else, when it has more bugs than one can count.09:20
devnullhyper_ch: /dev/null09:20
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BrianDonohueArgh, in my opinion RPM is on the way out09:20
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devnull=(09:20
yourfrienddevnull >> who cares >> Novell is total crap09:21
hyper_chups... I should not combine two toughts into one sentence09:21
BrianDonohueThe only good RPM based distro is Fedora.09:21
devnullwell .deb and rpm are very close lol09:21
venik212thanks-- the relevant box is clicked, but no icon.. ;-(09:21
BrianDonohueWell, I mean the package managers that support RPM.09:21
yourfriendbrianDonahue >> ugh FC is alphaware09:21
hyper_chI think FC is also quite nice09:21
devnullcorrect09:22
BrianDonohueWell, it always will be just because of the development chain, but it's some nice work.09:22
yourfriendbrianDonahue >> precisely09:22
BrianDonohueCan someone look at a shell script for me? I'll give you the link09:22
BrianDonohuehttp://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/files/index.html09:22
BrianDonohueBottom one09:22
yourfriendbrianDonahue >> Centos if you want RPM based09:22
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devnullhmm09:22
BrianDonohueCentOS is a great server OS.09:22
devnullamarok keeps freezing on startup09:22
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BrianDonohueI'm very happy with Ubuntu, to be honest. I don't think I'll be moving.09:23
BrianDonohueThe only reason why I have something else on my flash drive is that I couldn't get Ubuntu to boot.09:23
hyper_chBrianDonohue: for server I still use debian (sarge)... it has just proven to be rock stable09:23
jhutchins_ltRPM has a lot of features that other package managers don't, like for instance verifying a package, or the whole system.  It has better info on relationships between installed packages than .deb.09:23
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zoohousewhat is the command to start up services?09:24
BrianDonohueYeah.09:24
devnullAnyone else have that issue w/ amarok 1.4.6? It freezes on startup09:24
zoohouse. /etc something09:24
ardchoillejhutchins_lt: Unfortunately, rpm's can't be used on ubuntu09:24
yourfrienddevnull >> I use VLC09:24
BrianDonohueIt might be a nice idea to use apt's dependency checking combined with rpm's.09:24
xst In edgy I configured the fonts size in emacs in .Xresources but this file isn't loaded in feisty. Neither are .Xdefaults. What to do?09:25
hyper_chzoohouse: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start09:25
BrianDonohueBecause I've had nothing but bad experiences with yum and yast.09:25
devnullyast = garbage09:25
BrianDonohueWhen I was using SuSe, first thing I did was installed apt4SuSe09:25
yourfriendbrianDonahue >> It might be nice if there were a user friendly Debian based distro that kicked all others a$$es. Oh wait thats Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu09:25
BrianDonohueYeah, I'm impressed with it.09:25
zoohousethanks hyper_ch,09:26
BrianDonohueAlso, when you are going to write out my name, use tab so you spell it correctly so it shows up in red, so I know you're talking to me.09:26
yourfriendardchoille >> there is alien09:26
ardchoilleyourfriend: using alien is quite dangerous09:26
ardchoille!alien09:26
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)09:26
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yourfriendardchoille >> yes I Know and I don't use it. Just saying09:26
ardchoilleYeah09:26
Arwenalien isn't in of itself dangerous, but if you use the script conversion, then..09:27
yourfriendvery true09:27
yourfriendits better to use the .deb or compile if there is no package09:27
ardchoilleSince using Ubuntu (started when Warty was released), I haven't had the need to stray from the repos.09:27
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devnullblah. amarok is being a pain09:27
BrianDonohueLol, you're not hard to please then, ardchoille, haha.09:28
ardchoillelol09:28
yourfrienddevnull >> error messages?09:28
BrianDonohueI am always on the search for compilation just because it seems like the things I REALLY want are never in the repos.09:28
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Misterfixitthe weather in nashville sucks right now, but if I had a swimming pool it would be ok.09:29
BrianDonohue!offtopic09:29
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:29
Misterfixitgee that was like totally random09:29
BrianDonohue:P09:29
Misterfixitsorry09:29
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Misterfixitwrong channel09:29
BrianDonohueI'm just kidding, haha.09:29
BrianDonohueWe haven't been ontopic for what, an hour?09:29
ardchoillelol09:29
RytmenPinnensomething that I feel should be in the ubuntu repos is the perl audi converter with konqueror plugin, makes converting audio files easier than anything09:29
Misterfixiti thought i had Konversation set up to automatically log into the group #crazy.as.a.bed.bug09:30
devnullyourfriend: funny thing is I can't find any. running from cli gives me: http://pastebin.ca/58444809:30
ardchoille!info kaudiokonverter09:30
ubotuPackage kaudiokonverter does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:30
Misterfixit:-)09:30
ardchoille!info soundkonverter09:30
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ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB09:30
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Arwen!info zsh09:31
ubotuzsh: A shell with lots of features. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.2-25ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2169 kB, installed size 6528 kB09:31
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ardchoilleRytmenPinnen: soundkonverter can convert quite a few sound formats09:31
GrueTamergo zsh09:31
Arwennot that you really want to convert sound files, but..09:31
GrueTamerbecause it corrects my spelling!09:31
Arwenreally?09:32
GrueTameryeah09:32
GrueTamerif i type in 'chomd', it asks me to correct it to chmod09:32
GrueTamerand, i can cd to directories by just typing their name09:32
ardchoilleGrueTamer: That's cool. I've been looking for a keyboard that will print what I meant instead of what I typed, lol09:32
GrueTamerof course, ive got a custom .zshrc file, but i can give you the contents if you want09:33
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BrianDonohueLol, haha, ubotu is a typical geek!!09:34
BrianDonohue!women09:34
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.09:34
BrianDonohueHaha\09:34
BrianDonohueShit, nevermind.09:34
dromerhow can I see which ftpd I have installed and what program I can use to manage users etc. ?09:34
BrianDonohueBut I found that article again :D09:34
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BrianDonohue!misogynistic09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about misogynistic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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devnullBrianDonohue: That did not help at all lol09:35
hyper_chhmm, what is misogynistic09:35
Arwensexism basically09:35
gnomefreakArwen: please read the coc than fix your comment BrianDonohue watch your language09:35
BrianDonohueOh.09:35
BrianDonohueSorry.09:35
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Arwengnomefreak, "how to talk to women about Ubuntu"....09:36
hyper_chgnomefreak: what did BrianDonohue do???09:36
BrianDonohueI said shit.09:36
BrianDonohueLol09:36
BrianDonohueAgain.09:36
gnomefreakArwen: that is not what you said09:36
BrianDonohueSorry09:36
hyper_chBrianDonohue: oh... didn't see that :)09:36
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ArwenI said that the channel was misogynistic and I gave an example. If you want to correct me, please do.09:37
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gnomefreak15:34  * Arwen thinks #ubuntu-women should die.09:37
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hyper_chgnomefreak: and what is wrong with expressing one's opinion?09:37
gnomefreakArwen: you need to rethink your comments09:37
Arwengnomefreak, "because it's misogynistic". We shouldn't have a separate channel for women.09:38
hyper_chgnomefreak: and banning for using s***... c'mon...09:38
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gnomefreakhyper_ch: one this is a support channel09:38
gnomefreakhyper_ch: i didnt ban him09:38
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BrianDonohueI'll uh.... Watch my mouth.09:38
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hyper_chgnomefreak: banning... kicking... all the same...09:38
dromerhow can I manage users on a ftpd?09:39
hyper_chdromer: depends on the ftp server you use09:39
devnullOk one more time, anyone else had problems w/ amarok 1.4.6? Mine freezes on startup09:39
gnomefreakhyper_ch: if you have a problem with it please read !grules than !coc than come back and comment09:39
gnomefreakthats !rules09:40
hyper_chdromer: hava a look at http://www.howtoforge.com --> they have some excellent tutorials on how to setup an ftp server09:40
hyper_ch!grules09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:40
hyper_ch!coc09:40
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:40
hyper_chgnomefreak: I'm expressing my opinion... no matter what!09:40
gnomefreakhyper_ch: this is not a channel for your opinions09:41
hyper_chgnomefreak: in the end everything said is an opinion09:41
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BrianDonohueI also don't believe anything has been disruptive, gnomefreak. At the time of the first conversation no problems were being posed, now there are some and this discussion has continued so I do believe it would be in everyone's best interest if we all dropped it.09:42
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BrianDonohuedevnull: Is that the version built from source?09:42
BrianDonohueOr the version in the repo...09:42
hyper_chwow... getting kicked so easily? Not even having used offensive language... wow... power really corrupts09:42
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devnullBrianDonohue: repo09:43
BrianDonohueHmm09:43
gnomefreakhyper_ch: read the topic09:43
BrianDonohuedevnull: Mine just worked when I installed it, I've gotten lucky with that I guess.09:43
BrianDonohueWill it just not run?09:43
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dromerhyper_ch: I'm running an ftpd, but I'm not sure which one atm09:43
BrianDonohue!topic09:44
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:44
q-ikhello - could anyone help me :) - i cant run alsaconf, I all ready install alsa-base/utils/source etc but i cant run alsaconf :/09:44
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yourfriendhave a great weekend every109:45
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_peerless hey, I am trying to install xubuntu from a usb drive (on a laptop that doesnt have a cdrom drive).  I made the stick bootable using syslinux.  I copied over the alternate cdrom iso to the stick, renamed isolinux folder and .bin and .cfg to syslinux.  Booted up, started the install. I get to the point where it tries to detect cdrom, cant.  I go to a shell and try to mount the usb as cdrom, but I am stuck at this step.  If I check the syslog when plugging in09:47
devnullblah. I cannot get this issue to go away. I even removed ~/.kde/config/amarokrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok09:47
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:48
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BrianDonohuedevnull: I'm gonna take a stab.... Maybe it's xine?09:52
bdexterhollandsorry, but, someone knows how to make kubuntu shows a message in some programmed hour?09:53
devnullBrianDonohue: Yeah I was thinking the same thing, Im installing the restricted formats packages now and see if that resolves it09:53
BrianDonohueI've gotta header though.09:53
BrianDonohueShould be back in 4 hours.09:53
bdexterhollandsorry, but, someone knows how to make kubuntu shows a message in some programmed hour?09:54
ardchoillebdexterholland: You can use kdialog in a cronjob09:54
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bdexterhollandcan you show me a example? i've already tried it09:54
ardchoillebdexterholland: Open a terminal and run: kdialog --caption "message title" --msgbox "message body"09:55
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bdexterhollandbut, how i can put it on cronjob? i've tried at crontab: 32-40 22 * * * root xmessage halting09:56
bobbobhey09:56
bobbobim having a problem09:56
ardchoillebdexterholland: Why is the root in there?09:56
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bdexterhollandthe user...09:57
ardchoillebdexterholland: And your not using xmessage in this example, you're using kdialog09:57
bdexterhollandi've read that is necessary at crontab09:57
ardchoillebdexterholland: To edit root's cronjobs, run: sudo crontab -e09:57
bdexterhollandi've tried kdialog too09:57
bdexterhollandill try what you said... thanks...09:59
bobbobi did a fresh install09:59
bobboband my mouse is stuck on super slow09:59
bobbobi can change it09:59
bobbobany ideas how i can fix this?09:59
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ardchoillebdexterholland: In order to run graphical apps (kdialog) from a cronjob, you have to tell cron which display to use: env DISPLAY=:0.10:00
bdexterhollandhow the full command line will be?10:01
bdexterhollandplease...10:01
ardchoillebdexterholland: So it would be: env DISPLAY=:0. kdialog --caption "message title" --msgbox "message body"10:01
bdexterhollandok, thanks...10:01
ardchoillebdexterholland: http://imacgregor.com/Linux/CrontabTutorial10:02
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Schuenemannhey10:03
Schuenemanncan anyone recommend me a program for editing videos? Adding subtitles, for example10:03
Arwenuh.. you don't need to edit video to add subtitles10:03
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Schuenemannno?10:03
Arwenhttp://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/subtitles/ssa.html10:04
daSkreechSchuenemann: nope10:04
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Arwennope, ever heard of softsubs?10:04
SchuenemannI want them IN the video, not a separate text file10:04
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Schuenemannhmm... I guess not10:04
ArwenSchuenemann, then use a competent container like Matroska10:04
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Schuenemannwhat's that? I write the subtitles in a text file and that matroska fuses them?10:05
Schuenemannthem == video and text10:06
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ArwenMatroska is an encapsulation method of audio, video, and text..10:06
Arwenthe text is still not part of the video, but they're in the same file10:06
underdog5004I'm trying to get rtorrent to seed from one directory, and download/upload to/from another directory. Does  anybody know how to do this?10:06
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Arwendoes that help?10:06
davemy ps/2 mouse and keyboardhave stopped working but usb ones work... :S10:06
Schuenemannhmmm... not much10:06
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Schuenemannwhat will be the video's format? AVI, mpeg?10:07
Schuenemannany?10:07
Arwenthe *file*'s format will be Matroska10:07
Arwenthe actual video/audio will stay the same10:07
ardchoillebdexterholland: Here are some good examples for using kdialog: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/3760110:07
Schuenemannwill I need matroska to play the video?10:07
Arwenif you want, I can recommend mencoder/kino/aegisub/whatever to hardsub your subtitles but that greatly degrades the quality10:07
ArwenSchuenemann, you will need a matroska-supporting player like mplayer, vlc, etc10:08
Schuenemannhmmm... that's bad10:08
SchuenemannI don't think "everyone" has that10:08
davemy ps/2 mouse and keyboardhave stopped working but usb ones work... any ideas anyone?10:08
ArwenSchuenemann, use aegisub then. It can burn the subtitle directly into the video.10:08
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Arwenor wait, I'm thinking wrong... mencoder*10:08
bdexterhollandardchoille, thanks, that env DISPLAY is what was remaing for me :D10:08
SchuenemannArwen, does mencoder have a gui?10:09
intelikeydave sudo modprobe psmouse10:09
ardchoillebdexterholland: Yes, cron doesn't know which display to use so you have to tell it which one :)10:09
ArwenSchuenemann, NO10:09
bdexterhollandsorry about my english, i'm brasilian...10:09
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intelikeydave dmesg10:09
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Schuenemann!br | bdexterholland10:09
ubotubdexterholland: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.10:09
bdexterhollandbye10:09
Arwenyou won't be able to do this without some knowledge of scripting. Windows, Linux, or any other OS.10:09
intelikeydave you do know that if you unplug ps/2 it wont work until you reboot ?10:10
SchuenemannArwen, I can't believe that... why can't I just choose something like "display this text from this frame to this frame" ?10:10
Arwenbecause it's not that easy10:10
daveintelikey it wasnt10:10
daveintelikey have checkedall connections10:10
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SchuenemannArwen, how come so many boneheads do that? :p10:10
ArwenSchuenemann, unless, if you want to manually draw the words onto the video yourself, you could use a generic video editor10:11
intelikeydave ok did you check  dmesg to see what was going on ?10:11
ardchoilleSchuenemann: There are many apps that will rip subtitles along with the video. These come to my mind: k9copy, acidrip, xdvdshrink10:11
ArwenSchuenemann, they don't do it efficiently :-)10:11
daveintelikey what am i looking for exactly, not an expert yet ;)10:11
Arwenardchoille, he wants to hardsub something10:11
Arwennot rip10:11
ardchoilleArwen: Oh, ok.10:11
intelikeydave anything concerning the "ps/2" devices10:11
Schuenemannbut do you mean not efficiently?10:11
Schuenemannthey fuck the video?10:11
Schuenemannsorry, mess the video*10:11
pyrotixis there any way to disable sound from a web page/flash thing in konqueror?10:12
ArwenSchuenemann, no, they just do it very very slowly10:12
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pyrotixwhile having other applications still continue with sound10:12
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Arwenbut, hardsubbing invariably degrades the quality of a video since you have to recompress it10:12
daveintelikey can see mouse -- "input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse as /class/input/input3"10:12
Schuenemannrecompress all frames?10:12
Schuenemannor just the modified ones10:12
ArwenSchuenemann, all of em10:13
Schuenemanngee...10:13
Arwenvideos use inter-frame compression so editing one requires changes to the following ones10:13
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intelikeydave ok that's either the ps/2 mouse or a ps/2 type mouse with usb interface10:13
ArwenSchuenemann, you *could* just tell your friends to stop being lazy and use a matroska-supporting player :-)10:13
Arwenthere's a lot of em10:13
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Schuenemannheheh10:13
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intelikeydave do you have a /dev/psaux  ?10:14
SchuenemannI'd like to add some frames before the video too, to present it10:14
daveintelikey ?10:14
intelikeydave ls /dev/psaux10:14
daveintelikey yeh10:14
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SchuenemannArwen, I'd like to try the inneficient method before... which program I need?10:15
intelikeydave  cat /dev/psaux | od      and move the mouse around10:15
daveinteikey no actually10:15
SchuenemannI think window$ movie maker does it, or not?10:15
intelikeyoh10:15
ArwenSchuenemann, kino probably10:15
intelikeydave ok.10:15
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Arwen*I thought you were transferring the subtitles from a file to the video not making them from scratch*10:16
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Schuenemannnah... I'll have to think of them10:16
daveinteikey got a bus, disk, fd, input, net, pts, shm,snd10:16
intelikeydave   lsmod | grep mouse10:16
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davepsmouse 38920 010:17
daveintelikey10:17
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intelikeyhmmm that should have made a psaux device10:17
intelikeydave what kernel version ?10:17
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intelikeydave   uname -r10:18
daveintelikey 2.6.20-16-generic10:19
SchuenemannArwen, I think kino can't open .wmv10:19
intelikeyhmmm   let me think a minute10:19
ArwenSchuenemann, you FAIL. WMV sucks.10:19
Schuenemannthat W guarantees that10:19
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Arwenyeh... not to mention that the format itself is pretty useless10:20
Schuenemanncan I convert it? using what?10:20
Arwenanyway, you'll have to decompress it if kino doesn't support it10:20
intelikeydave any information that i need to know about the mouse and keyboard stopping ?     like upgrades or package install/removals that went off just before the issue ?10:20
Arwenuse mencoder to dump an uncompressed video out of it (sorry, command line mucking)10:20
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SchuenemannI'll try10:21
intelikeydave edited any files in /etc/ lately ?10:21
Arwen#mplayer can help you btw10:21
daveintelikey - yes updated the xserver as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Radeon_9200/9250_%28RV280%29_and_DVI?highlight=%28dvi%29 for my dvi monitor10:21
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intelikeyok let me look at that just a minute.10:21
daveintelikey - but it was working then stopped then worked then nowt10:22
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intelikeydave that may well be the issue.   that driver may not support multiple mice...    if you'd like to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file i'll look into that  but i don't see anything that "should" have affected it.10:25
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daveintelikey pastebin it?10:25
intelikey!pastebin | dave10:25
ubotudave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:25
daveintelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26791/10:26
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doobehQuick question-- Is it possible to install Kubuntu from the shell, using the 7.04 live cd?10:28
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underdog5004I'm trying to get rtorrent to seed from one directory, and download/upload to/from another directory. Does  anybody know how to do this? I know I asked before, but maybe there is someone in here now that knows!10:28
intelikeydave that xorg.conf section   line   56   option "Device" "/dev/psaux"    x is looking for a device you no longer have.    you might try     sudo mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1      and see if it helps.10:28
tomahi, anyone able to help me setup a bluestooth headphone?10:28
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underdog5004doobeh, I don't know...you may want to google around10:29
underdog5004toma, have you tried on your own yet?10:29
daveintelikey it says file exists10:29
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intelikeydave you said it didn't when i asked you to ls it10:30
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tomaunderdog5004: yep, the bluetooth usb adapter works (i think) and it sees the headphone. But i don't know how to pair with it.10:30
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daveintelikey sorry my bad, as i saidim not an expert10:30
underdog5004!bluetooth10:30
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup10:30
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tomathnxs, let me read it10:31
underdog5004alrighty10:31
Schuenemann!infrared10:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:31
underdog5004I've never used bluetooth, sorry10:31
underdog5004!ir10:31
ubotu#ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.10:31
Schuenemann!irda10:31
ubotuInformation about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto10:31
underdog5004lol10:31
Schuenemann:)10:31
intelikeydave k    so   cat /dev/psaux | od     and move the mouse around     use [ctrl] +C to exit that.10:31
davescrolls lots ofnumbers but no worky10:32
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per_Hello. I am new to Linux and haven't used irc for many years. Can I just ask questions here?10:33
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Schuenemannthat's the purpose of the channel10:33
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intelikeydave yes ok.    that test confirms that the hardware and kernel are talking peace to each other,  so the issue is definitly xorg related.  and seeing the xorg.conf i have to assume that either 1. you didn't build the driver correctly  or 2, the driver is flawed (bug)  maybe 3. your hardware and the particular driver are incompatable.    read the docs on the driver you built and go from there.10:34
frojndhow can I set myself to NOT away in konversation?10:34
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Schuenemanntry /unaway10:35
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daveintelikey - any way i can 'go back'?10:35
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intelikeydave yes should be simple enough.  let me revisit the page and i'll tell ya.10:35
underdog5004per_, yup, feel free10:36
underdog5004per_, we try to keep the elitism to a minimum10:36
tomaunderdog5004: that does not cover pairing10:36
underdog5004toma, ok, lemme look around...what's the model?10:37
intelikeydave should be as simple as    sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati   and restart X10:37
tomaunderdog5004: if you dont know, i will google for a while10:37
davethanks inteikey10:37
intelikeynp10:37
davethanks intelikey10:37
underdog5004toma, which model is it?10:37
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per_I am trying to get my bluetooth devices to connect at startup. I have gotten as far as editing the bluez-utils file. The problem is that I don't know how to save it after editing it in terminal. Can anybody help?10:38
underdog5004per_, lol, are you using vi, vim, emac, nano? Which editor?10:39
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intelikeydave if for some reason you need a full reload of the xorg     just change   xserver-xorg-driver-ati   to  xserver-xorg*10:39
intelikeyand the star is important there.10:40
daveintelikey thanks10:40
intelikeywelcome10:40
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bdexterhollandsorry again, i asked for a command thats show a message for a user, now, i need something that shows a message for any logged logged user, anyone can help me?10:41
per_I am new at kubuntu (and Linux), so I don't know if I understand the question. I am running kubuntu Feisty, and the program Terminal programm is just called Terminal.10:41
underdog5004per_, ok, but when you edited the file, what command did you use?10:41
bdexterhollandsorry again, i asked for a command thats show a message for a user, now, i need something that shows a message for any logged logged user, anyone can help me?10:41
intelikeydave you have a backup copy of your xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26791/  :)    not that you'll need it.10:42
intelikeyback in a while.10:42
per_I used the command: sudo nano /etc/default/bluetooth10:42
per_sudo nano /etc/default/bluez-utils  did not work10:42
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underdog5004per_, ok, to save it, hit Ctrl + X, then hit y, then enter10:43
underdog5004that's when you're at the editing part10:43
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per_thanks underdog. I will try that10:43
underdog5004alrighty10:43
underdog5004brb10:43
SchuenemannArwen, how do I get that lavc codec?10:43
ArwenSchuenemann, it's built in10:44
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SchuenemannI get this message: [mp2 @ 0x87bb7ec] bitrate 224 is not allowed in mp210:44
SchuenemannCouldn't open codec mp2, br=22410:44
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Arwenmp2? uh... your file sucks so much you ought to shoot yourself :-)10:45
per_thank you underdog. It worked10:45
Schuenemann:-(10:45
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SchuenemannI read it here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide10:45
ArwenSchuenemann, and yeah, it's telling you that 224 is not a valid bitrate for MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, your file is b0rk3d10:45
Schuenemannwhat does that mean?10:45
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Arwenuh... it means the audio in your file is broken beyond belief10:46
Schuenemannis it? I didn't notice10:46
ArwenSchuenemann, lol, let's start from the beginning. What are you trying to get mencoder to do?10:46
Schuenemannconvert a wmv into something compatible with kino10:47
ArwenSchuenemann, ok, you need to do this in 2 parts10:47
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Schuenemannthat are...10:48
ArwenI'm working on it... not an mplayer expert10:48
Schuenemannahh10:48
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underdog5004per_, I'm back...did it work?10:52
rathelHow do I restart my sound device? I'm getting pops and stuff ever since Konqueror crashed.10:52
underdog5004 oh, looked back a bit...I'm glad it worked for you10:53
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underdog5004rathel, try sudo /etc/init.d/alsad restart... maybe try replacing alsad with alsa10:53
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ArwenSchuenemann, "mencoder -oac copy -ovc <somecodec+options> -o <outputfilename> -of rawvideo <inputfilename>"10:54
per_It worked just fine underdog. Thank you very much :-)10:54
underdog5004per_, awesome, have fun with linux...once you learn how to use it, it becomes way powerful!10:54
per_I have only been doing this for a month, but I have already found out that! Linux is great!10:55
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SchuenemannArwen, mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.avi -ovc lavc -oac lavc10:55
Schuenemannlike this?10:56
rathelunderdog5004: Thanks that worked.10:56
Schuenemannoh wait, you used "copy"10:56
underdog5004rathel, good to hear it10:56
ArwenSchuenemann, well, if you call lavc, you need to pass it options10:56
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Arwenyou want to grab the audio and the video seperately10:56
Schuenemannnope10:56
Arwenyes, you do10:56
Arwen:-)10:56
Schuenemannheh10:56
underdog5004I'm trying to get rtorrent to seed from one directory, and download/upload to/from another directory. Does  anybody know how to do this? I know I asked before, but maybe there is someone in here now that knows!10:56
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Schuenemann<somecodec+options>10:57
Schuenemannwhat should go here?10:57
Arwenmencoder movie.wmv -o movie.raw -ovc <something> -oac copy -of rawvideo10:57
ArwenSchuenemann, your choice of codec and the options to make it useful10:57
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Arwensince you're going to edit it, I recommend choosing uncompressed video (raw)10:57
SchuenemannI don't have a clue10:58
Arwenlol...10:58
Schuenemannwhat is raw? like bitmap?10:58
Schuenemannno compression10:58
Arwenyeah, basically a bunch of pictures10:58
Schuenemannso, what is this <something> ?10:58
Arwenbecause if you choose a compressed format, edit it, and then compress it again, the quality will be much worse10:58
Schuenemannhehe10:58
SchuenemannI see10:58
ArwenSchuenemann, <something> would be "raw" in this case10:58
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Arwen(mind you, 20 minutes uncompressed video is 4GB, so you better have some disk space)10:59
Schuenemannbut that raw is still a video, right?10:59
Schuenemannjust uncompressed10:59
Arwenyeah, it'll be editable by a competent video editor10:59
Schuenemannmencoder movie.wmv -o movie.raw -ovc raw -oac copy -of rawvideo10:59
Schuenemann?10:59
ArwenSchuenemann, yeah, try that10:59
Schuenemannworking10:59
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Schuenemannlots of duplicate frames, according to the output11:00
ArwenSchuenemann, hmm, I mighta messed something up, I'm not good at this kinda stuff11:00
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Arwenexamine it and see if it's crappy11:00
Schuenemannok, 80% so far11:00
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Schuenemannappearently, the movie.raw is an image11:01
Arwenit's not, the .raw extension is just one I made up11:01
Arwenit happens to also be an image extension11:01
[Al] chemist_exhey whats the best dock for kde?11:02
folkoHello dear ALL it's my firs install of Ubuntu OS - coool11:02
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Schuenemannfailed to load the video11:02
Arwen[Al] chemist_ex, docks suck.11:02
ArwenSchuenemann, huh...11:02
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folkocan some one help me to fix sount for Ubuntu 7.0411:03
yurimxpxmanwhat's a good P2P app that doesn't use the Gnutella network?11:03
SchuenemannI think I have to edit the default preferences for video creation11:03
rathelHow would you make a script for TAR that backs up a direcoty into an archive than you run it again, instead of overwriting the entire archive, it'll only overwrite the changed files? I've tried a few ways but they overwrote the archive.11:03
[Al] chemist_exArweb, I agree but I am having a trend whore off.  Can you tell me a few of them?11:03
ArwenSchuenemann, ye, my options were probably bad11:03
Arwen[Al] chemist_ex, kiba-dock11:03
Schuenemannaw...11:03
Schuenemannyurimxpxman, ed2k?11:03
Arwengo ask in #mplayer11:03
[Al] chemist_exthanks :)11:03
Arwenyurimxpxman, BitTorrent11:03
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yurimxpxmanArwen: something non-BT.. I can't find a torrent for what I want11:04
Arwened2k or dc++ then11:04
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SchuenemannArwen, sigh... what can I do?11:04
ArwenSchuenemann, um, give up? or wait patiently in #mplayer11:05
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dwidmann:O Seems they're actually making good use of the backports repository in Feisty!!11:05
Arwendwidmann, how so? :O11:06
dwidmannArwen: I just pulled Amarok 1.4.6 from the official backports section .... not from a seperate repository (ie: kubuntu.org/packages/....)11:07
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Arwendwidmann, and I just finished compiling my own copy of amarok 1.4.6 :-\11:08
Arwenmedibuntu is so slow..11:08
dwidmannArwen: I've seen other stuff in there, but that's the only example I could remember. At least we're getting backports from the backports repository now though :)11:08
Arwenyeah11:08
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Darkrift411q:11:11
Darkrift411every time i reboot, all sorts of crap opens up that i havent used in a while11:12
Darkrift411what can i do to reset my stored session :S11:12
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Schuenemannwow, there's winamp for linux? I didn't know that11:12
Arwenthere is? o.O11:12
nosrednaekimSchuenemann: really? since when?11:12
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Schuenemannhttp://superdownloads.uol.com.br/download/3/winamp-3-linux/11:12
Schuenemannalpha, though11:12
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Arwenis it official?11:13
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vlad88I hear that Winamp 3 is opensource now11:13
Arwenand is there an English translation of that?11:13
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vlad88in Wine's site11:13
Schuenemannhmm I dunno11:13
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vlad88http://www.winehq.org/site/winelib#winamp11:15
Schuenemannlol, sorry for the hoax =D11:15
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vlad88Somebody knows a good replacement for mIRC?11:20
Schuenemannkonversation11:20
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Schuenemannnot THAT good, though11:21
underdog5004vlad88, xchat, konversation, probably others11:21
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Darkrift411vlad88, seems xchat is somewhat close to mirc11:22
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Darkrift411and has scripting support (different languages though)11:22
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Arwenxchat is nothing like mirc, lol11:22
Arwenxchat is actually good11:22
Darkrift411im a hardcore mirc user and xchat is the closest ive seen11:22
vlad88:\ I tried them, but nothing seems to be as *perfect* as mIRC11:22
Darkrift411well Arwen, either you know nothing about mirc, or you havent tried many clients11:22
vlad88I will give a shot again to x-chat11:22
underdog5004xchat, all one word11:22
underdog5004sudo apt-get install xchat11:23
ArwenDarkrift411, uh, I've used mirc and the ui looks ridiculously stupid11:23
ArwenI mean, windows inside of windows?11:23
Darkrift411lol Arwen11:23
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Darkrift411like i said yo know nothing of mirc11:23
Darkrift411thats the default11:23
Darkrift411mirc is completeny scriptable, so you can change ANYTHING11:23
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underdog5004Darkrift411, take a chill pill11:23
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Darkrift411mine looked nothing like mirc11:23
vlad88I love that UI style (MDI I think)11:23
Arwenyeah, and I stopped using it because I couldn't be bothered to tweak a halfassed irc client to make it less halfassed11:23
vlad88there's very nice script for it, like the NoName script11:24
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Darkrift411most scripts completely changed mirc11:24
GerritHi, I'm connected via my wireless device but KNetworkManager says 'Wired ethernet connection active: ...' in the tooltip, even though it lists my connection as wireless in the context menu.11:25
Arwenalso, paying for an IRC client is kinda stupid11:25
Darkrift411lol11:26
underdog5004Gerrit, that means that your eth0 is up as well as your wireless11:26
Darkrift411who said anything about paying11:26
Darkrift411heh11:26
underdog5004Arwen, agreed11:26
vlad88Darkrift411: LOL11:26
Darkrift411btw vlad8811:26
Darkrift411you can still have mirc11:26
Darkrift411im running mirc right now11:26
Darkrift411under kubuntu11:26
Darkrift411it might run under wine, but i have it running under crossover office11:27
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Gerritunderdog5004: It's up but it's not connected.11:27
underdog5004Gerrit, that's ok, it'll only say inactive if you ifdown it...(if you de-activate it)11:28
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GerritI see.11:28
vlad88Darkrift411: yes, I tried to run it with Wine long time ago, it was fine, minor fonts issues.11:28
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vlad88Darkrift411: still I would prefer to use a *free* alternative11:29
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underdog5004vlad88, xchat is the way to go imho11:29
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ardchoillevlad88: konversation, xchat, irssi, there are a lot of choices.11:29
nosrednaekim/nosrednaekim is using GAIM11:29
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underdog5004hey nosrednaekim, long time no see11:30
coreymon77wasnt gaim discontinued11:30
coreymon77?11:30
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coreymon77isnt it pidgin now?11:30
underdog5004I'm trying to get rtorrent to seed from one directory, and download/upload to/from another directory. Does  anybody know how to do this?11:30
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: yep.... do I know you?11:30
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: not in fiesty yet11:30
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underdog5004nosrednaekim, you gave me info on how to scp with the -r flag11:31
underdog5004actually, the -R flag, which was wrong, but w/e11:31
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nosrednaekimunderdog5004: haha yeah..except I said to use the -R11:31
vlad88Thanks, I think I will stay with Konversation for now, there's very nice integration with KDE (well, obviously XD)11:31
ardchoillecoreymon77: Yes, they renamed it. I don't see why, but they did. Personally, I would have told AOL to get bent.11:31
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coreymon77nosrednaekim: yes in feisty, not through apt, but with a ubuntu .deb yes11:31
nosrednaekimunderdog5004: I kinda forget the names of all the people I see/help11:31
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: well yeah11:32
coreymon77nosrednaekim: just use the deb11:32
underdog5004lol, np11:32
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: GAIM beta 6 works fine11:32
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coreymon77okay11:32
morg0thhellow all =)11:33
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coreymon77hi11:33
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daleDoes anyone know any partitioning tools for kde?11:33
ashtarqtparted11:34
coreymon77dale: qtparted11:34
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daleWill i have to install loads of gnome libs?11:34
nosrednaekimdale: qtparted11:34
daleyes11:35
coreymon77dale: qtparted is a kde program11:35
daleok thanks11:35
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SchuenemannArwen, I have to go... thanks. If you discover something, please tell me :)11:35
daleHow do i install multimedia codecs eg: wav, mpg, mp3 etc..11:38
Schuenemanndale, install libxine-extracodecs11:38
Arwen!restrictedformats | dale11:38
ubotudale: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:38
SchuenemannI have to go, bye11:38
ArwenSchuenemann, bye, I'll look into it11:38
nosrednaekimbye11:38
daleThanks alot.11:38
Schuenemannsee you in another life, brother11:39
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morg0thmay be, everebody help me: how do i set russian encoding in Kopete?11:43
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Aloneaok, I installed google earth, but it just stays at the initializing phase. anyone else have it and successfully get it to work?11:44
coreymon77Alonea: i take it this is over wine?11:46
Aloneacoreymon77: no11:46
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Aloneathere is a linux version. also a mac version too11:46
Aloneathey make it for all 3 systems.11:47
ArwenI've had googleearth working before (btw, it uses statically linked winelib)11:47
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AloneaArwen: well, I installed the bin file, followed the install thing, and then the program started to load, but it seems to be stuck at initializing11:48
Arwenany console errors?11:48
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PhinnFortAlonea: firewalled or something?11:48
AloneaArwen: no11:48
PhinnFortAlonea: also, try just exiting and restarting it11:48
Arwenhmm, no idea then, it's proprietary so I guess that's expected?11:49
PhinnFort;)11:49
AloneaPhinnFort: not sure. I am directly connected to my router though, since it times out too much with wpa11:49
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PhinnFortAlonea: try restarting the program11:49
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AloneaPhinnFort: did that.11:49
PhinnFortstill no go?11:49
Aloneanope. I can try again11:50
PhinnFortAlonea: can you try running it in a konsole?11:50
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AloneaPhinnFort: umm, I can try.11:50
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PhinnFortrepeat something and expecting a different outcome11:50
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nosrednaekimPhinnFort: too long in windows teched them..11:51
AloneaPhinnFort: ah, but I am indeed quite mad though11:51
PhinnFort;)11:51
PhinnFortnosrednaekim: the reboot syndrome11:51
jzillaHello friends. I am trying to change the resoulition of the virtual terminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6) to something higher than 800x600. Where would be a good place to start?11:51
nosrednaekimPhinnFort: and other such psycological maladies11:51
nosrednaekim!windows11:51
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents11:51
PhinnFortjzilla: menu.lst11:51
PhinnFortjzilla: wait a sec, and I'll try to find the appropriate thingy11:52
nosrednaekimjzilla: you need them to be in framebuffers.. not sure if they are by default11:52
PhinnFortjzilla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution11:52
PhinnFortnosrednaekim: they are11:52
jzillathanks!11:52
PhinnFortyw;)11:52
AloneaPhinnFort: ok, it appears to be stuck, but I cant kill the process. says I dont have permission11:52
PhinnFortAlonea: run "kdesu xkill" in alt+f211:53
PhinnFortthen click on it11:53
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daleHow can i use the "wallet" feature for kcontact?11:53
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PhinnFortdale: whaddayamean?11:53
AloneaPhinnFort: er, I am confused. what do I click on? The googleearth isn't at the bottom, but the process is there.11:54
PhinnFortAlonea: click on the window11:54
daleI would like to use the kde wallet feature for all of my passwords that other apps use.11:54
PhinnFortAlonea: your cursor should turn into skull'n'bones11:54
AloneaPhinnFort: which window though?11:54
PhinnFortAlonea: google earth=11:54
PhinnFort?11:54
PhinnFortAlonea: or just run "sudo killall googleearth" in a terminal11:54
AloneaPhinnFort: there isnt a window at the moment.11:55
PhinnFort^^11:55
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Aloneaok, trying one more time to get it to load up11:56
PhinnFortAlonea: it could be that it just needs a lot of time to load11:56
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PhinnFortAlonea: bandwidth?11:56
AloneaPhinnFort: I have cable.11:56
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PhinnForthmm11:57
jzillaThanks, wish me luck!11:57
Aloneaand ktorrent isn't on.11:57
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PhinnForthttp://earth.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1130&ctx=homepage11:58
Aloneaand my windows is borked..well, really, its the ntfs is so fragmented that I can't defrag it. otherwise i would do it in windows11:58
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PhinnFortheh11:58
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smylanakissorry i am new in kubuntu11:59
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smylanakiscould anyone please help me out and guide me through ?11:59
smylanakisi am interested to update the resolution11:59
smylanakisof the display of kubuntu12:00
ramii can help12:00
ramisystem settings12:00
smylanakisis there any easy way to have more than 1024 * 768 ?12:00
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smylanakisthank you12:00
RawSewagedid you install Nvidia drivers12:00
ramimonitor(freely translated from sw2edish12:00
smylanakisno i did not... where can i find them ?12:00
RawSewagedo you have an NVidia card12:00
ramiwe are all rookies....12:00
AloneaPhinnFort: yeah. i looked around on that earlier. haven't found anything that really relates to me. I have ati,  but not those cards they listed were bad12:01
PhinnFortAlonea: I haven't even tried GoogleEarth under linux, so I don't know what could be wrong;)12:01
RawSewagesmylanakis, if you have an Nvidia card and install the Nvidia drivers,  after youre done,   do   sudo nvidia-settings  and change the resolution there, and then save12:01
Aloneame neither..i was just hoping it would work outta the box.12:01
smylanakisyes i have an nvidia card12:01
PhinnFortAlonea: it's google;)12:01
RawSewagenvidia-settings will give you a GUI12:02
RawSewageyou have to do sudo nvidia-settings  or it wont save it when you Save12:02
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AloneaPhinnFort: i really like google. wanted to look at Dallas for my trip tomorrow12:03
smylanakisyes but how am i going to be sure what the right version of nvidia driver is going to be and secondly from where can i download them ?12:03
RawSewage!nvidia12:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:03
PhinnFortAlonea: I just know it runs really smooth on my parents mac12:03
ardchoillesmylanakis: That is a very nice how to for nvidia drivers12:04
PhinnFortlucky apple has a standardized set of hardware;)12:04
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smylanakiswowww i am really confused ! there are several links in here and i dont know how to start.. should i download first the binary drivers ?/ are there any other ? these are my first 10 minutes in kubuntu.. dont take me wrong ! please..12:07
smylanakisjust installed it !12:08
PhinnFortsmylanakis: just search for nvidia in add/remove programs12:08
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smylanakisok12:08
smylanakisjust a minute please12:08
PhinnFort<red>DON'T PANIC</red>12:08
PhinnFort;)12:08
PhinnFortin large, friendly letters on the cover12:09
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jzillais there a way to tell what resoultion the TTY is currently in?12:13

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