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xkyotoxhi02:30
agoliveiraHello02:32
xkyotoxwazz up?02:33
agoliveirasdame old, same old02:34
xkyotoxokay02:35
xkyotox(sorry for my spelling) i am realy intrested in a ubuntu mobile=) have the phone been releaed witsh thay are planing the platforme for ?02:36
agoliveiraxkyotox: We are not focusing in phones right now but in bigger devices like webpads based on Intel's LPIA. After that we are going into other platforms.02:40
xkyotoxokay02:41
xkyotoxhave to check that out02:41
xkyotoxowh.. i wass so excited for a ubuntu phone platforme02:43
xkyotoxOpenMoko mybe then =(02:44
matt_cor an N800 with Gizmo :)02:46
MithrandirI wouldn't be surprised if we'll see phone functionality on MIDs soonish.02:46
xkyotoxN800 hu okay..02:47
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matt_cI'm just being obnoxious.  It's not the same as having a GSM phone or anything, but if you're bathed in WiFi all day it'll work using something like Gizmo.02:49
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brinstarhi, i have a samsung 'blackjack' phone, is it ever going to be possible to use linux on it?03:28
Mithrandirno idea; maybe.03:29
brinstarthe wiki doesnt really say either way03:29
ian_brasilola...quick question...will there be a separate repository for UME03:30
brinstarhas anyone used a linux smartphone?03:35
brinstarare they as customisable as usual linux distros?03:36
matt_cbrinstar: with the exception of OpenMoko all Linux "smartphones" tend to be just as locked down as a java featurephone.03:37
matt_cAt least that's what I know of the Moto ones03:37
brinstarjust looking at openmoko now, looks really cool03:38
matt_cThere are also some homebrew folks looking to put together their own hardware/software stack (google for SVHMPC) that might be worth looking at03:39
brinstarthe mobile companies are probably someone will find a way to hack them so you get free calls :)03:39
brinstarprobably afraid*03:40
ian_brasilmatt_c: http://bricolabs.info03:41
Mithrandirian_brasil: it will just be a different architecture, but live in the same archive as the normal Ubuntu packages.03:41
brinstar?? it mentions the NDS03:42
ian_brasilMithrandir: ok03:42
ian_brasilMithrandir: what is the name of the architecture?03:43
Mithrandirlpia03:46
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agoliveiratko: Hi. Do you know if you keep matchbox in sync with upstream?04:19
tkoagoliveira: fairly close. I think we currently have an svn snapshot, but I'd need to check our svn and from Tapani04:20
amitkjacob_ - ping04:21
agoliveiratko: I would apreciate if you find me this information. I need to sync your matchbox with upstream to create a branch for us here. If you have done it already would be nice ;)04:22
tkoagoliveira: I can only check our svn.. it's a holiday weekend here so I can't catch our maintainer until Monday04:24
tkomatchbox-window-manager-20070619.tar.bz204:24
tkoand no patches apparently04:25
agoliveiratko: Fine04:25
agoliveiratko: So you're using upstream directly?04:25
tkoseems so04:25
agoliveiratko: Weird. I tought your matchbox was somewhat patched.04:26
tkowe might have occasional patches when we need some stuff faster than matthew likes to commit, or when (we think) we want some controversial stuff04:26
tkoyeah, I thought so too :)04:26
agoliveiratko: Well, if your repository shows no patches it will be just perfect to me :) Anyway, I'll check it out later to see what happens.04:27
agoliveiratko: Thanks04:27
agoliveiraLunch time!04:29
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agoliveiratko: Really that's strange. I was checking matchbox at maemo's svn and there's a "debianizer" and a plain snapshot from upstream. Do you know, by any chance, if Maemo's changes were inetegrated upstream?06:49
tkoagoliveira: debianizer?06:49
agoliveiratko: Just a directory with a bunch o debian-style packaging rules but forget what I asked, I just saw that yes.06:50
agoliveiratko: Just in case I'll diff against upstream but looks like 1/2 my task is done already ;)06:51
agoliveiraOk, it's just the other way around, your mainteiner, Tapani, did make a few changes but over very recent matchbox so we should be fine just using yours.07:13
agoliveiraI just wonder why he keeps it a a tar.gz...07:15
tkoagoliveira: our tar.gz is upstream snapshot + patches not upstream yet?07:22
tkobecause it's convenient07:22
tkohandling all the patches separately is pita :)07:23
agoliveiratko: If by snapshot + your patches you mean the modified files not source + diffs, yes. AFAICS, no patches of your side entered upstream, at least the ones on your svn.07:25
agoliveiraI mean not original sources + diffs07:25
tkoick07:25
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agoliveiratko: Anyway, I would like to check that with Tapani monday.07:27
tkogood idea07:28
agoliveiraFor now, I'll just create a separate branch on LP with your matchbox-window-manager and see what happens.07:28
agoliveiraand adjust the dependencies to use them of course.07:29
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robramitk, what's up? i can try to raise jacob-laptop for you10:05
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