=== DSBassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac7bc8b.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac2dd0f.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56346690.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] Any MOTU to ACK bug 119995? :) [12:35] Launchpad bug 119995 in deluge-torrent "Sync deluge-torrent (0.5.1.1-1) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119995 === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] pochu: Is this required? I thought that there was still one more run of the autosync planned (and deluge-torrent has no Ubuntu changes). [12:37] Hmm, right. [12:38] persia: it was a 'please package new upstream version', renamed to 'please sync ...' now that it's been packaged in Debian. [12:38] I'll take care of it, thanks anyway! [12:39] pochu: Thanks. I'm unsubscribing U-U-S. If it misses the freeze, please add a Rationale justifying the sync, and resubscribe. [12:41] the freeze is a few weeks off still [12:42] DebianImportFreeze isn't really a freeze as such === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N828P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] ajmitch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule reports the "freeze" starting 21st June. Is this no longer correct? Was a mechanism built to distinguish main from universe for sync? [12:45] persia: sure, but that's just disabling the autosync [12:45] and no, there's definitely no plans to break universe by keeping syncing on === ajmitch would say it's best just to leave sync requests open just in case [12:46] but archive admins may disagree :) [12:47] ajmitch: OK. That's what I thought. I'm just under the impression that U-A doesn't need to be subscribed to sync requests with no Ubuntu changes until after the last run (and thought there was some issue with the script that delayed the last run). === lousygarua [n=amir@89-139-244-58.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:54] get fake-syncs a build1 or ubuntu1 suffix? it's some time since I did the last fake-sync === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-19.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] build1 [12:58] do I keep the old ubuntu changelog entries? === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] if you wish, it won't matter on the next actual sync === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-21-91-32.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-130.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] hey... are there any python apps that need to get coded/ worked on? [01:08] <_MMA_> !seen imbrandon [01:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen imbrandon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:09] ubotu: seen imbrandon [01:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen imbrandon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:09] baah === geser wonders why bugs with status "triaged" are hide from default bug listings [01:10] <_MMA_> He's been gone for like 10 days. Some sited he hosts are down. :( [01:10] <_MMA_> *sites [01:10] _MMA_: lika aurora, correct? [01:10] <_MMA_> Im not sure with that one. [01:11] <_MMA_> His repo as well as Ubuntu Studio.org are down. [01:11] I couldn't reach it today... but could be bad routing :-/ [01:11] i think it might be routing [01:11] I wanted to build gajim :-P [01:11] aurora sees to be dead for a few days now [01:12] I'll guess I'll just have to wait for my two ordered raptors and build my server :-) [01:12] but sparky still works [01:12] <_MMA_> Hmm.. I sent him a email yesterday. Hope he's ok. [01:12] how can someone check with ubotu when somebody was here for the last time? [01:12] Is that possible? [01:12] luisbg: seems we couldn't :-P [01:13] pochu, should be [01:13] Nafallo, :( === pochu has never seen that [01:13] -ENOSEVEAS [01:13] geser: bug #121636 [01:13] Launchpad bug 121636 in launchpad "when a bug is marked as triaged it desapears" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121636 [01:13] people are missing :-P [01:13] what is this? [01:14] Microsoft started doing like in that movie... [01:14] ? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-130.200.popsite.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:14] Good night folks! [01:17] _MMA_: my log has seen imbrandon three days ago [01:17] Nafallo: Antitrust ? [01:17] StevenK: right. that's the name :-) === StevenK has it on DVD at home. [01:18] hehe :-) [01:18] <_MMA_> geser: Thanx. Hopefully he's ok. [01:20] Nafallo: if you still remember him it's not that bad [01:22] geser: :-) === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] if an upload is rejected and accepted at the same time will it stay in this state as long as nobody looks at it? [01:27] If it was rejected and later accepted, it should hit the archive. [01:27] both mails are dated Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:05:22 -0000 [01:29] see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26686/ [01:30] Okay, I suggest you talk to a member of -archive when they re-surface. [01:31] uploaded twice? [01:32] only one upload [01:32] ah, that's an interesting error [01:32] perhaps soyuz is doing experiments with quantum physics :) [01:32] asked in #launchpad about the breakage? [01:33] not yet === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] <_MMA_> geser: I called Brandon. He should pop on in a couple of hours. (he's out with the family) [01:46] _MMA_: he was find otherwise? [01:46] <_MMA_> Yes. :) [01:47] s/nd/ne/ [01:47] :-) [01:52] he seemed just fine last time I saw him online [01:54] email came through about some soyuz breakage today [01:55] to find out when someone was last online, you can also do -> /msg seenserv seen nick [01:55] I thought SeenServ was neutered? [01:55] it works for me [01:56] hrmm [01:56] Fair enough. Maybe it was killed on OFTC. [01:56] either is says they are online or they haven't seen someone recently [01:56] nixternal! [01:56] ok, it is working [01:57] ajmitch! [01:57] so you've applied === ajmitch chuckles [01:57] haha, why in the hell am I getting that same response from everyone? [01:58] man, and you can't revert a sent email....I need +1 not :D [01:58] maybe we should just flip a coin to vote [01:58] see, it doesn't pay to follow at all...when you follow the advice of a few, you get laughed at === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] nixternal: Well, you can, but only if you control the recieving mail server. :-P [01:59] well the laugh to positive vote ratio is probably worse than the 50/50 chance with a coin ;p [01:59] nixternal: I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you... [01:59] convince me that you're ready to be a MOTU [01:59] hahahaha, ya OK [02:00] convince me you are ready to ask that question ;p [02:00] I don't need to, I just have to vote :) [02:00] well, if I don't get MOTU I am going back to Microsoft...so pretty pretty please [02:00] how is that? [02:00] ;) [02:00] shiny vista? [02:00] Awww, nixternal didn't mention me in his application. [02:00] nah, ME [02:01] damn, I didn't [02:01] StevenK, ScottK [02:01] StevenK: aw [02:01] both start with a big S and end with a big K [02:01] anyway, I have to go out for an hour, back later [02:01] at least come up with a decent bribe for a change [02:01] haha [02:01] nixternal: I didn't know you were that masochistic. [02:01] I'm getting sick of noone being generous [02:01] I will us Gnome! [02:01] s/us/use === ajmitch will return [02:01] ajmitch: what do you need? [02:02] as long as it is under $5 [02:02] --> lunch [02:02] deal! [02:02] I will send out my private jet in the morning === StevenK ponders sending a mail to motu-council === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.232.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] is there a howto update sun-java ?? [02:16] I have thunderbird. [02:16] I deleted stuff out of my lkml mailing list folder. There's now 86,000 messages in my trash and 97,000 still in the folder. [02:16] I have, total, over one quarter million e-mails. @_@ [02:17] bluefoxicy: clearly you should unsubscibe some stuff :) [02:17] don't you have a howto update sun-java ? [02:18] jmg: Well I've got nearly as many total from all the ubuntu mailing lists too ;) [02:19] bluefoxicy: refer previous statement ;) === luisbg___ [n=d33p@87.217.144.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@5ac2dd0f.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bashelier [n=bashelie@srv122.hosteur.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@32.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-21-91-32.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] leonel: what are you looking for? [02:55] to update sun-java6 to the new version [02:56] there is no documentation for that really [02:56] LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate using this [02:56] When doing a merge, how do I generate the diff that only shows the changes between the debain and ubuntu package? [02:56] LaserJock: I didn't found any [02:56] somerville32: yes [02:56] somerville32: debdiff [02:56] Thank you! :) [02:56] I knew I was forgetting something [02:57] somerville32: blah, I thought you said "do" rather then "how do" ;-) [02:57] Heh [02:57] Need to get 1234MB of archives. After unpacking 870MB will be used. <-- er great, I love gutsy :) === ajmitch returns [02:58] leonel: you should look at the Ubuntu Packaging Guide and also the Debian Java Policy (on www.debian.org/devel/ ) [02:58] Toadstool: nightly apt-get -dy dist-upgrade is a good thing :) [02:58] this is what I am going to do [02:58] anybody running gutsy on a "production" machine yet? [02:59] of course [02:59] No way. [02:59] LaserJock: ok I was looking for a sun-java packaging howto [02:59] is my home desktop not 'production' enough? [02:59] I may run a Live CD, or on a box that I don't care falls over, but certainly not for day to day use./ [02:59] leonel: there is none [02:59] gutsy stays in a vm for me [02:59] I can filter out po delta right? [03:00] TheMuso: I'm finding it hard to develop for gutsy when I'm not running it ;-) [03:00] gutsy in "production" now are for MACHOs only ... :) [03:00] I was thinking of dist-upgrading the laptop [03:00] LaserJock: Chroots. :) [03:00] blah [03:00] schroot kicks my butt and I don't have a lot of room for it [03:01] LaserJock: How does it kick your but? It is really not that hard to set up. [03:01] it has issues with mounting [03:01] LaserJock: runs fine on my laptop [03:01] I've had less problems with gutsy than with other systems [03:01] true, I do still have to drop to the initramfs shell to boot my desktop :) [03:02] a lot of the time I can't chroot in with schroot === StevenK has three gutsy chroots here, 2 with pbuilder and one with schroot for sbuild [03:03] well, maybe I'll stick with schroot for now [03:03] wimp [03:03] just go all the way [03:03] if it wasn't for my wife having to use it I would [03:03] we're almost at tribe 2, gutsy is rock solid === jrib saves quote [03:03] ha [03:04] apart from compiz being a little strange lately my desktop is running smoothly [03:04] well, I can't use compiz anyway [03:04] compiz was slowing other stuff down, so I turned it off [03:04] I don't regret switching to sbuild/LVM. [03:05] hmm [03:05] I really dislike dealing with that kind of thing [03:05] I've had lots of trouble with LVM [03:05] so I never got to sbuild/LVM [03:06] use LVM on loopback [03:07] hmm, that sounds a little crazy [03:08] maybe I should blow away this Fedora 7 partition I've got [03:08] keep it simple, i say [03:09] hi folks, btw [03:09] hi [03:10] well, bottom line is my laptop sucks for development work [03:10] so I ssh into my "server" for everything [03:11] perhaps I should upgrade that to gutsy [03:11] I hardly use my laptop for real work [03:11] it's just too slow compared to my desktop [03:11] laptop drives generally suck === TheMuso uses his laptop as a gateway to his other boxes for real dev work. [03:12] i use my laptop for most stuff, mostly because my desk is incredibly uncomfortable and i can use my laptop on my bed [03:13] they're similar in performance, really === StevenK does all his development on his desktop, it being a 3GHz amd64 and the laptop being a pithy 1.3GHz Pentium M [03:14] yeah, but it makes it hard to do testing, IMO, when you're ssh'd into everywhere [03:14] StevenK: I have a similar difference [03:14] I tend to do most development sitting in front of it. [03:14] dualcore amd64 vs a 2GHz pentium M [03:14] hmm === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] plus the deskotp just plays games better [03:15] mine is AMD 1800+ vs 2.6GHz Celeron [03:15] I am seriously pondering a Core 2 Duo CPU, but I doubt the motherboard supports it. [03:15] it won't [03:15] you'll need a new motherboard, new RAM === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] unless you've got ddr2 ram for that amd64 [03:17] yay, found a cheap(ish) 20" lcd [03:17] should I get it? [03:17] only if you can return it if you don't like it [03:18] hey === zul__ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] ajmitch: Well, either that or a Pentium 4 D that supports both long mode and is dual core. [03:20] I was thinking of getting a 17" LCD for my desktop machine but then I rarely sit in from of it so... [03:20] only 17"? === TheMuso uses a 22" widescreen LCD with his desktops. === ajmitch was using a 21" CRT & a 20" LCD [03:20] then the CRT died [03:20] ajmitch: yes, it's got a 17" CRT now === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK has a 17" LCD on his desktop [03:21] im getting a new hard drive for my laptop soon.. === ajmitch only has a 17" lcd at work [03:21] I quite like the MAG 20" LCD I have at work [03:21] the dell 20" LCD at home is nice === porthose [n=chatzill@24-119-100-168.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] I'm just saving my pennies for a new laptop and desktop [03:28] if I don't spend anything on "goodies" then maybe I can get a whole new system [03:28] heh [03:28] I've been tempted to just get a new system as well === Nafallo had a failing systemdrive, so has to buy new ones :-/ [03:29] but there's no way I can justify it [03:29] I haven't bought a new system in 3-4 years [03:30] argh it never ends [03:30] and I think I've spent <$100 in that time on computer parts [03:30] but then again... I could buy them from a friend who has great prices through a company ;-) [03:30] I haven't bought a brand new system since jan uary 2004. [03:30] january even [03:30] you must have gotten a nice one [03:30] I have obtained second hand systems, but not new. [03:30] LaserJock: It was my notebook. [03:30] The year before, I got a P4 desktop. [03:31] hmm. last time I bought new was darkelf in 2004 :-) [03:31] last desktop I got was 5 years ago at walmart [03:31] last (first) laptop was a $800 toshiba 3 years ago [03:31] she went up in flames this year :-P [03:31] The two boxeS I have obtained second hand are both PoewrPC. [03:32] PoewrPC even [03:32] damn typing [03:32] PowerPC [03:32] PPC [03:32] :-) [03:32] anyways... yeah === TheMuso loves non-intel architectures. [03:33] oh! last new system I bought was actually MIPS :-) === Nafallo remembers now :-) [03:35] TheMuso: really? [03:35] Something is wrong. [03:35] like as in AMD or as in non-i386 [03:35] LaserJock: Yes. We are overrun by Intel, so learning about systems that use other CPU types, and have other ways of booting etc is refreshing for me. [03:35] Sorry, non-x86. [03:36] non-x86* I'd guess :-) === TheMuso looks forwrad to the day that we ditch the BIOS. [03:36] And use something like EFI. [03:37] I've got a sparc machine, but I haven't done anything with it because I don't have a Sun keyboard [03:37] I'm using MoM to merge wifi-radar and there is no diff file for the debian package. [03:38] somerville32: you could merge it manually [03:39] ah, the days before MoM [03:39] : O [03:39] Merge... manually! Such ludicrous! === ajmitch thinks all MOTUs should be able to do merges without MoM [03:39] yes [03:40] then again, I still think that MOTUs should be able to package something new & upload it unsupervised [03:40] I'm just oldfashioned [03:40] I was looking at Gentoo development docs the other day [03:40] er why? [03:40] and they have a couple "tests" [03:41] zul: I was looking for how many devs they have for a LUG presentation I was giving [03:41] zul: why what? [03:41] LaserJock: those "tests" are really easy to past because the answers have been passed around alot [03:42] I imagine [03:42] I give up for now in java updating .. [03:42] ajmitch: I agree; but thats part of the dont sponsor folk that aren't ready; and do object to folk that aren't ready. [03:43] too many ways to patch or make packages and ... I couldn't do it .. [03:43] i give up. === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] lifeless: I know, it's mostly common sense [03:44] i got made a fedora maintainer today [03:44] interesting [03:44] but don't hold it against me :) [03:44] commiserations === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] I was going to learn to do .rpms from openSUSE [03:45] rpms are easy to do [03:45] but then Fedora 7 came out so I thought I'd give it a try [03:45] i'm strugging with debs [03:45] I can do debs [03:45] I've never done an .rpm [03:45] ebuilds are dead easy even my wife can do it. [03:46] if she knew how to use linux that is.. [03:46] anyways [03:46] heh [03:46] I'd love to get my whole family onto Linux. [03:47] well, my wife uses it === StevenK has managed to get his sister-in-law running Ubuntu. [03:47] yeah .rpm is pretty simple but it's just not as documented or readable as deb packaging imho [03:47] AndyP: They use spec files or someting don't they? [03:47] andyp ?? there's too much info and too many ways to do a deb and I can't do a simple update to sun-java [03:48] I feel really bad right now . [03:48] all day lost in this \ [03:48] TheMuso: yeah, that's the one [03:48] leonel: is that your first deb? [03:48] AndyP: How easy are they to master? [03:48] zul had some patched debs [03:48] zul before [03:49] if its your first or real deb I would start with something easier [03:49] TheMuso: it's like debian/control, debian/rules and debian/changelog in one file, not too difficult really... although i can't say i've really mastered the art :) [03:49] TheMuso: A spec is mostly cat debian/* > spec, with some style changes, and the {post,pre}{inst,rm} having had lobotomies. [03:50] zul i've patched clamav I though I could update sun-java since there's only binary packages to replace [03:50] AndyP: Ah ok. [03:50] StevenK: it's ugly [03:50] zul but clamav works one way sun-java other way [03:50] one of the few things I like about it is that there's a standard for rpm patches [03:52] ajmitch: and another good things is that you can put a package like " clamav " and there's no breaking things since there are not much packages [03:53] AndyP: So what interest do you have in being involved with Fedora and Ubuntu? [03:54] i'm starting to think I'm not good for this work [03:54] leonel: don't just give up on it [03:54] leonel: did you go through the Ubuntu Packaging Guide? [03:55] ajmitch: That too. I hate reading spec files [03:55] LaserJock: read some but there's so much info that I don't know what to apply for any task [03:55] O/c [03:55] ugh [03:56] found some recepies for some packages and don't work on other packages [03:56] TheMuso: i develop a backup tool called pybackpack, which i'm maintaining in debian (via sponsor) and fedora... that's about as far as my interest in fedora goes but ubuntu is what i use every day and has a more welcoming community so i prefer to make more contributions to it and get more deeply involved with it [03:56] AndyP: Right. [03:56] I'm really LOST or ... Desperated housewife ?? :-P [03:56] AndyP: Really? You find the community between Fedora and Ubuntu to be quite different? [03:56] me too [03:56] leonel: I'd just go through the Packaging Guide first before trying to apply it to things [03:57] StevenK: well, i like reading spec files. [03:57] lol [03:58] StevenK: not that different, but ubuntu certainly has the edge in my book [03:58] leonel: take a close look at using cdbs if you can too. I ignored it when I first started, but it makes things so much easier if it's an easy package [04:00] thanks jrib [04:00] well I leave now [04:00] leonel: oh an the "hello" package is a nice example to look at too [04:00] before I quit doing this === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-003-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] AndyP: I've got my own opinions of the Debian and FreeBSD communities, I was just curious how Fedora compares. [04:01] thanks jrib [04:01] Heck, the FreeBSD community is one reason I refuse to run it. [04:02] StevenK: to be fair, my experience with the fedora community is probably too shallow to compare them properly, but then that's probably the difference i'm describing - ubuntu is easier to get more deeply involved with [04:04] Yeah, okay, I've noticed that, just based on what I've seen and read. [04:08] That was one thing that rubbed me the wrong way, prior with Fedora 7. Community involvement with Fedora Core seemed to be ... not much. [04:13] StevenK: yeah i think i remember people complaining that the community didn't have much say in the direction of development === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441e5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] AndyP: *nods* They seem to be getting better, slowly. They aren't even close to how open Ubuntu development is. [04:16] and I still think that we can do better [04:16] ajmitch: Oh? [04:17] StevenK: yeah, that's my experience lately - soon after i blogged about the differences in getting sponsored in debian and fedora, i got an email from a red hat guy offering to sponsor me and help make the whole sponsorship process easier === hjmf_ [n=hjmf@81.Red-217-125-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] he was quite cool about it [04:18] there's still a number of places where it's pretty much just canonical, though they are trying to get the community involved [04:18] well, it seemed to me that Sevilla was a big step backward [04:18] LaserJock: in what way? [04:18] when it comes to community defining direction [04:18] regarding the bug status change? [04:19] no [04:19] there was no big call for specs [04:19] ah [04:19] much of the schedule was determined by Canonical beforhand [04:20] we're still waiting on new TB nominations :) [04:21] what is sevilla? [04:21] a city in the south of spain === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-69-249-127-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] ubuntu development shindig [04:22] oh [04:22] we had the ubuntu developers summit there in early may [04:23] LaserJock: scheduling is /hard/ [04:23] of course === ajmitch returns to hating on CVS [04:23] LaserJock: as in NP-hard [04:23] lifeless: please tell me there's an easy way to import from cvs into bzr :) [04:23] I'm just saying, it was considerably less community driven than previous UDSs [04:23] ajmitch: yes [04:23] ajmitch: :P [04:23] otherwise I'll have to register a project on launchpad & wait for the import [04:25] ajmitch: https://launchpad.net/bzr-cvsps-import [04:25] ajmitch: if you want incremental tracking, register it on launchpad [04:25] ajmitch: if you want one-shot conversion, use bzr-cvsps-import [04:26] right, there are just about 20 cvs modules in this repository, so it'd be annoying to register each [04:26] I'll probably register the ones I care about === predius_ [n=predius@predius.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] I'd just like to check that bug #121476 has all the right stuff (status, subscribers, etc) to get looked at when someone's feeling in a sponsoring mood. [04:39] Launchpad bug 121476 in mplayer "Use Compiz' "video" plugin when available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121476 [04:40] I'm not familiar with the packaging-in-bzr workflow :) === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-21-91-32.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mshima [n=mshima@200-138-95-34.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] some motu could take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5239? === Simon80 [n=Simon80@CPE00e098558963-CM000a7363ecf6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] RAOF: Neither am I [04:46] mshima: I'm not a MOTU, but I'll have a cursory glance. [04:46] RAOF: thanks === TheMuso is going to get onto revu stuff after lunch. [04:48] mshima: Ok, my cursory glance says: you *might* want to tighten your debhelper build-depends and version your cdbs build-depend. [04:48] mshima: And I'm pretty sure you don't want "debian/changelog2" in there :) [04:49] your are right [04:49] la === somerville32 cries. [04:50] mshima: Also, you've rewritten debian/rules to use CDBS? Does Debian use raw debhelper? [04:50] RAOF: Redundant changelogs! I like it. :-P [04:50] Pretty good, eh :) [04:51] somerville32: why? [04:51] debdiff is failing [04:51] :\ [04:52] RAOF: yes debian uses debhelper [04:53] mshima: Is there some awesomely good reason why you re-wrote the rules in CDBS? Because we generally try to minimize divergence from debian, and unless you get that change into the Debian package, it's huge. [04:54] RAOF: I'm doing this with another guy and his is trying to get this package into debian. [04:55] mshima: I hope that "other guy" is the debian maintainer :) [04:55] RAOF: The debian maintainer is blocked his email is not accepting mails. [04:55] :( [04:56] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26694/ [04:56] RAOF: He is doing this by an sponsor [04:56] were there any network updates recently for gutsy? my gutsy box seems to drop dns repeatedly now [04:56] nixternal: network mangler? [04:56] RAOF: no way to contact the maintainer. [04:56] was that updated today? [04:56] mshima: Ok. And the sponsor is OK with rewritting debian/rules entirely? I just think that it might be easier to get in if you don't completely change the packaging :) [04:57] mshima: his debian.org address isn't working? [04:57] no [04:57] joejaxx: ^^ [04:58] RAOF: Don't know [04:58] mshima: tried voc@synce.org? [04:58] mshima: Then I'd *strongly* suggest that you change the packaging as little as possible. [04:59] mshima: Why did you rewrite debain/rules? Much as I love cdbs, raw debhelper isn't *that* bad :) [04:59] Can someone help me understand whats wrong with debdiff? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26694/ [05:00] somerville32: what's broken? [05:00] see bottom [05:00] It stops and I don't get a full diff [05:00] aha [05:00] interesting === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-19.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00]