=== asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:02] asac: I don't know if you are aware of the Firefox Plugin 'Firebug', it is basically the DOM Inspector on steroids, you should check it out see if it is a good replacement for -dom-inspector [03:47] no god no it has caused alot of issues in past === caravel [n=chatzill@249.Red-83-63-149.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:08] hi gents. [04:08] hi [04:09] is there any way to get the address books outside of thunderbird profile, beside using symlinks or extra extensions that would duplicate the mab files at every app launch ? [04:10] (searched hard before to come here !) [04:10] caravel: i dont think so but its late here for me atleast. ask in morning :) [04:11] caravel: asac might know off hand but he wont be here for 4+ more hours [04:11] oky :) tried various user_prefs as well, but the location seems hardcoded, what a pity... have a good sleep gnomefreak ! [04:11] ty === caravel [n=chatzill@249.Red-83-63-149.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] === hjmf_ [n=hjmf@81.Red-217-125-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:22] gnomefreak: i haven't started a wiki page for it [04:22] asac: i will have the fix to the clue files committed tomorrow === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-79-30.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:41] Admiral_Chicago: ok good [09:51] hjmf_: < dholbach> asac: new CC meeting announced (June 26th, 13-15 UTC) [09:51] so ... next tuesday ;) === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp59-167-30-126.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:18] Bug 121467 ... is really strange [10:18] Launchpad bug 121467 in firefox "unable to acces to a specific url with any navigator." [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121467 [10:39] cool solution for bug 23369 maybe foujnd [10:39] Launchpad bug 23369 in firefox "firefox(-gnome-support) should get proxy from gconf" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23369 === zacha [n=zacha@202-78-149-58.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@81.Red-217-125-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:37] morning [11:37] asac: thanks, 26 Jun! [11:38] will you be there? :D [11:38] hjmf: yeah [11:39] cool :) [11:39] hjmf: at best remember me the day ... but since I am here that day, I should be able to provide backup :) [11:39] how do I create a shortcut to load firefox and a custom profile? firefox -P default doesn't work... [11:39] asac: k [11:39] zacha: what is a custom profile? [11:39] zacha: some arbitrary folder ... or a named profile? [11:40] zacha: firefox -ProfileManager ... can you choose your profile? [11:40] just a firefox profle... the ones you see when you run firefox -profilemanager [11:41] for me firefox -P default works [11:41] what happens for you? [11:42] oops [11:42] thanks [11:42] zacha: is this what do you want [11:42] export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/firefox:/usr/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins" [11:42] /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -profile /media/hda1/Documents\ and\ Settings/hjmf/Configuraci?n\ local/Datos\ de\ programa/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/wuxs857s.default [11:43] My profile name had a space in it [11:43] and then firefox -P "profile name" works [11:44] maybe I was using a lowercase p... thanks anyway [11:44] zacha: naturally ;) [11:44] yep [11:44] np [11:45] hjmf: do you have kde installed? [11:46] asac: no [11:48] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384304 ... is that patch against ffox 2.0 source? [11:48] hjmf: ? [11:48] Mozilla bug 384304 in Startup and Profile System "/usr/bin/firefox is not able to handle symlinks due error in the script" [Major,New] [11:48] (currently dropping in patches dir) :) [11:49] asac: is against MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH so I guess it is :) [11:50] asac: do you want to hear a *German* radio for about half an hour to reproduce a crash? bug 121685 [11:50] Launchpad bug 121685 in firefox "firefox crashed" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121685 [11:50] :) [11:51] I don't understand a word :-P [11:51] hehe [11:51] :) [11:51] i hate german radio [11:51] lol [11:51] if i would tune in I would have to pay radio tay [11:51] tax [11:52] so i stay away from anything remotely associated with german radio/tv [11:52] :) [11:52] radio tax? OMG! [11:52] to be honest ... legally i have to pay radio tax *now* because i have a computer with internet access [11:52] ...and I was ranting on the cds tax [11:52] yeah [11:53] thanks god the things here in spain are less strict on that issue :) [11:53] its crazy ... in germany you have to pay kind of tax if you have a computer because these god damn radios stream there program [11:53] hell ... just don't do it [11:53] or encrypt it ... or whatever [11:54] I don't know english words to say what I'm thinking of it :-P [11:54] ;) [11:54] yeah [11:54] it just sucks ... and is completely irrational [11:54] agree [11:55] how much was a flat in valencia ;) [11:55] expensive [11:56] in euros... let me think, I still thinking in old pesetas [11:56] about 48000? [11:57] better pay the radio tax ;) [11:57] what do you get for that? [11:57] an 80 square meter flat in a not bad zone [11:57] thats pretty cheap actually [11:58] for a german maybe, not for a spanish [11:58] imho [11:58] in hamburg you pay 150k+ for that ... in berlin it might be from 80k [11:58] the normal salary for a graduate is less than 1000?/month [11:59] graduate? [11:59] you mean finished university? [11:59] yes [11:59] I have two grades [11:59] interesting [11:59] none on IT [11:59] i was pretty impressed in sevilla [11:59] though [11:59] how expensive things like food are [11:59] ... but still people buy a lot [11:59] really? [12:00] expensive in bars or supermarkets [12:00] i didn't have the feeling that people have a lack of mony there [12:00] supermarkets [12:00] the only thing that is cheaper in spain is gasoline [12:00] and cigarettes [12:00] (which i like) :) [12:00] maybe :) [12:00] here is no sense of lack of money [12:00] everything else appeared to be more expensive ... or at least same price [12:01] the problem is that no one can save an euro :) [12:01] yeah ... but thats good for the economy ;) [12:01] i think germans are the ones saving most (about 10% of income average) [12:01] which are zillions of euro each yearh that don't stay in economy [12:01] yes tha national economy not the personal one :) [12:01] americans have a save-rate of -1% :) [12:02] maybe the same here [12:02] english people have 3% saving rate [12:02] they say more of the 80% goes to the house payment [12:02] funny thing is that policitician still call for "saving" more ... to finance your pension [12:02] yeah [12:03] 80% just for paying a house IMHO is crazy [12:03] yeah thats true [12:03] but people in london probably pay about the same percentage :) [12:03] probably [12:03] rents are really crazy ;) [12:04] here there's little rent market [12:04] so i valencia a bit like sevilla (from how the city looks and feels)? [12:04] and that's maybe the cause of the expensiveness of the house [12:04] s [12:05] never been in sevilla [12:05] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ValenciaSt.jpg [12:05] valencia is more modern because of the recent investments [12:05] sevilla was astonishing beautiful [12:05] you know america's cup [12:05] yeah ... its soon right? [12:06] F1 next year in a new urban circuit [12:06] next month [12:06] but probably sevilla is prettiest [12:07] yeah ... i just need as much beauty as i can consume :) [12:07] :) [12:07] sevilla is probably far tooo hot in summer [12:07] and no direct sea ;) [12:07] valencia is hot all the year [12:07] I like cold :( [12:08] probably now it is around 30C [12:08] though we are in summer since yesterday [12:08] so it's ok ;) [12:08] sevilla is hotter [12:09] i love 30 degree ;) [12:09] 40C in summer [12:09] sevilla gets often 45C :) [12:09] yeah [12:09] yea [12:09] at least thats what the guide told us [12:09] ... and thats far beyond what i can stand i guess [12:09] at least if there is no water where i can just jump in [12:09] sevilla is for night living [12:09] boiling watter... [12:12] i have a patch http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/lp23369-dont-use-gconf-system-prefs-if-not-gnome.patch [12:13] for bug 23369 [12:13] Launchpad bug 23369 in firefox "firefox(-gnome-support) should get proxy from gconf" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23369 [12:13] the idea is to set config.use_system_prefs to true [12:13] and then hope that this patch just enables gconf settings if you are really in a gnome session [12:14] only in gnome session i mean [12:14] otherwise people will be trapped in their non-existing gconf settings and won't be able to configure proxy manually anymore :/ [12:14] ... which is why i asked if you have kde ... or something that is not gnome :) [12:16] no sorry since I'm in ubuntu I just have gnome [12:16] Admiral_Chicago uses kubuntu I believe [12:17] by H. Montoliu [12:18] what should i use in credits? [12:18] that email? [12:18] better gmail.com [12:18] ok [12:18] asac: cool :) [12:18] your bugzilla account is telefonica.net though [12:18] yes, I used that because of the ISP [12:18] You prefer Hilario ... or just H. ? [12:18] just H is ok [12:18] H. [12:19] hold on [12:19] asac: [12:19] hmmm i like the name Hilario Montoliu [12:19] is hmontoliu@gmail.com [12:19] k [12:19] then leave it as Hilario Montoliu :) [12:19] asac: ^ [12:19] its like an artist name ... i mean it rimes ;) [12:20] lol [12:20] your mother/father must have been a poet or artist [12:20] My father's name is Hilario, my grand father too, and so on... [12:21] ah ... you have another first name? [12:21] * debian/patches/bz384304_lp117575_linkrecursion_fix_in_startscript.patch, debian/patches/series: patch to fix symlink handling of startup-script (LP: #117575) - by H. Montoliu [12:21] ups [12:21] * debian/patches/bz384304_lp117575_linkrecursion_fix_in_startscript.patch, [12:21] debian/patches/series: patch to fix symlink handling of startup-script (LP: [12:21] my full name is Hilario Jesus Montoliu Ferrera [12:21] #117575) - by Hilario Montoliu [12:21] :) [12:21] but Hilario Montoliu would be enough [12:21] thats cool [12:21] asac: cool ty [12:26] i hope i can punch that patch through review soon :) ... apparently benjamin dropped the ball on it ... but lets see what i can do [12:29] sure that a lot :) === azazel [n=azazel@81.174.46.50] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:33] hi all! [12:35] anyonei s aware of a gran paradiso package for ubuntu/debian? [12:39] yeah [12:39] in !moztest ? [12:39] !moztest [12:39] hmm [12:40] what the "!" means? [12:40] The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs. [12:40] ah, the bot [12:40] cool it woke up :) [12:41] anyway .. if there is no firefox-granparadiso in there [12:41] use firefox-trunk for now [12:41] many thanks, asac. and foe debian, ara you aware of any similar repo? [12:41] -granparadiso is in NEW queue for gutsy [12:41] azazel: no :) ... but it should build fine [12:42] i have no time to keep a debian repo up-to-date for that [12:42] if someone volunteers to provide debian builds regularly, i am here to help :) [12:42] gnomefreak: is -paradiso in preview archive as well? [12:42] or just -trunk? [12:43] i never made a debian package, but maybe... [12:43] azazel: apt-get source firefox-granparadiso then copy those files to a debian sid ... [12:43] then goto firefox-granparadiso directory and run [12:43] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [12:43] done [12:43] (you might need to install build-essential package as well as dependencies that build complains about) [12:44] yeah, i've built other packages ... mmm seems simple [12:45] what do you use to create a debian repo? [12:45] or maybe i can give them to you [12:47] asac: you know if running gran paradiso screws up the profile for legacy ffox? [12:48] azazel: should work ... but better keep a regular backup of your .mozilla directory [12:48] ... just in case [12:48] mmm the .firefox isn't used anymore? [12:48] azazel: if you upload your debs somewhere, we can probably pull them over to our preview archive as well [12:49] azazel: you still have that dir? [12:49] i think its not used ... but better backup as well :) [12:49] :) [12:49] usually things go to .mozilla/firefox/ nowadays [12:55] so it seems i will be able to try the new python stuff in gecko 1.9 [12:55] fantastic [12:57] azazel: what python stuff do you mean? [12:57] is that supported in default granparadiso builds? [12:58] otherwise i might have not enabled it (because i didn't know). [12:59] no, but it's packaged externally: http://vamposdecampos.googlepages.com/pyxpcom [12:59] ah ok [01:00] the top would be to recompile and package it for debian/ubuntu as well [01:00] is that free-software ? e.g. GPL/LGPL/MPL ? [01:00] probably it is as its cut out of mozilla trea [01:00] but let's make one step at a time [01:00] tree [01:01] yes [01:01] azazel: i think you have to recompile it anyway ... as their build probably uses different libstdc++ major version [01:03] gnomefreak: ok i pushed a good bunch of firefox changes to bzr that will have to wait until tribe-2 is out [01:03] ... now preparing a cherry-pick build for two urgent issues that have to be fixed for tribe-2 === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp59-167-30-126.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:00] asac: no granparadiso is not in preview and i like it that way so i can update on a weekly basis instead of when they release tarball [02:01] gnomefreak: ok [02:01] asac: you have more to push to firefox bzr? [02:02] like java but i think that is gutsy not so much feisty but would rather have it in feisty incase [02:02] java is good in feisty [02:02] won't work with our preview version though [02:02] once java is fixed in gutsy we probably want to backport it for our archive as well [02:03] k thats easy enough [02:03] so ff ready to be built? [02:03] for preview? [02:04] i still have to start coffee and do a bunch of other things before ff starts build so take you time [02:30] asac: hjmf next CC meeting is on june 26th at 1300UTC [02:31] gnomefreak: bzr state should be good [02:31] k [02:31] changelog is not up to date [02:33] but you can use it [02:33] just append ~mt1 or something [02:33] then go [02:33] k [02:33] latest revision is 61? [02:33] yeah [02:33] cool [02:33] bluekuja messed up the mozillateam branch [02:33] o you need to merge [02:34] but should be more or less straight forward [02:34] just a minor changelog conflict [02:34] so you can probably do the merge in a minute or so [02:34] otherwise build directly from my branch and bug bluekuja to merge mozillateam ;) [02:37] gnomefreak: do we see debian bug 423665 [02:37] Debian bug 423665 in iceape "iceape: cpu at 100% in download window" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/423665 [02:37] in iceape? [02:37] i pulled from your branch as always than i normall merge to mozillateam [02:38] asac: i havent seen that yet ill test [02:39] how would i know we dont have that version [02:40] which version? [02:40] 1.0.x? [02:40] does it exist in 1.1.x ? [02:40] nothing higher than 12%CPU oin version 1.1.2 [02:40] asac: that bug is on 1.0.8 [02:41] when opening and resizing download manager [02:41] offtopic question: is there any way to determine which firefox profile is being used at any moment? [02:41] ... hmm 12% ? [02:41] gnomefreak: doing what? [02:41] hjmf: profile manager [02:41] I mean in the moment of a crash [02:41] resizing the download manager window [02:41] oh [02:41] hjmf: i dont think so [02:41] hjmf: the reporter should know [02:41] I'm doing a draft on the firefox hook [02:41] hjmf: if he doesn't he probably uses the default [02:42] hjmf: you can see which one is default in .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini [02:42] asac: he states in bug it happens doing these6things [02:42] asac: ok [02:42] hjmf: look in it [02:42] When the download manager window is used (opened ,focused, moved, [02:42] resized, scrolled, clicked) iceape cpu usage go near 100% [02:42] hjmf: is pretty self-explanatory [02:42] gnomefreak: you mean it consumed this cpu usage while you have it open [02:43] or while you are opening it? [02:43] e.g. it 100% just intermediate ... for how long? [02:43] when its open and resizing it it uses max of 12 % [02:43] i dont see 100% usage at all [02:43] and if its just open (in the foreground) ? [02:43] 7% [02:43] gnomefreak: what system are you on? [02:43] slow one?= [02:43] 7-12% [02:43] or speedy? [02:43] no p4 [02:44] yeah ... on old system it might consume 100% then [02:44] it doesnt state what pc to use [02:44] yeah [02:44] asac: well of course that is gonna happen [02:44] but assume he has rotten thing :) [02:45] Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) [02:45] thats not slow pc [02:46] looking [02:46] gnomefreak: do yoou have a screenshot of downloadmanager window? [02:46] hmm [02:46] i can [02:46] maybe he really refers to the act of opening downoad manager [02:46] but ther eis nothing in there [02:46] you said it peeks at 100% then? [02:47] i think thats his bug ... e.g. if you *use* the window ... in terms its moved around and stuff like that [02:47] or during the resizing === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-30.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:48] hmnm i think its the same for firefox [02:48] if i resize a lot i get one core fully utilized [02:48] 14:46 < gnomefreak> but ther eis nothing in there [02:48] 14:46 < asac> you said it peeks at 100% then? [02:48] 14:47 < asac> i think thats his bug ... e.g. if you *use* the window ... in terms its moved around and stuff like that [02:48] 14:47 < asac> or during the resizing [02:48] gnomefreak: anything else you said? [02:48] hold on power went out [02:49] i can not reproduce his issue [02:49] ok [02:49] 15% is highest i can get it without downloading something [02:50] gnomefreak: you need download entries [02:50] do you have them? [02:50] e.g. finished downloads in the manager for instance [02:50] if its cleaned up it probably won't consume much CPU [02:50] it did not say that in the bug report [02:50] give me bug # again and about 20 minutes ill let you know [02:51] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423665 [02:51] Debian bug 423665 in iceape "iceape: cpu at 100% in download window" [Grave,Open] [02:57] where can i find a bunch of small downloads [03:00] hmm [03:00] just choose any :) [03:00] i have no idea [03:00] maybe download images [03:00] with save image as ... [03:01] should bring you a new download entry [03:02] gnomefreak: ^^^ [03:03] i am [03:05] 19 is highest with 5 downloads in download manager [03:05] 19% [03:05] eh 22% [03:06] only that high for a second or 2 [03:06] than goes back down (scrolling through downloads, resizing, moving) [03:07] ok thanks [03:07] yw [03:12] damn ... something broke my X11 forwarding [03:12] through ssh [03:12] haven't used it for a while so i have no idea what made it break [03:13] but now i need it :/ [03:13] gutsy? [03:14] if you have time test the output of this draft of firefox apport hook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26726/ [03:14] I have quite simple profile [03:14] my output looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26727/ [03:15] it just prints out extensions.ini and a summary of the profiles that are in the default profile dir [03:15] asac: gnomefreak ^^ [03:16] hjmf: pretty cool [03:17] hjmf: if you wanna be a hero print the em:name field content of install.rdf for each extension as well :) [03:17] e.g. Extension1=/home/hjmf/.mozilla/firefox/oicl0ue1.default/extensions/{e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781}/install.rdf [03:17] there should be plenty of meta info (otherwise we might not be able to find what extension is e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781} [03:17] asac: it is already [03:18] field ExtensionsDirSummary: [03:18] in the output [03:18] ah right :) [03:18] yeah [03:18] thats amazing [03:18] then I'm a hero :D [03:18]