[12:11] <mpathy> ajmitch: postinst_hook = /sbin/lilo
[12:11] <mpathy> whereis lilo => lilo: /sbin/lilo.real /sbin/lilo /etc/lilo.conf /usr/lib/lilo /usr/share/lilo /usr/share/man/man8/lilo.8.gz
[12:12] <ajmitch> ok, and is this not working?
[12:12] <mpathy> if it would I wouldnt write anything ;)
[12:13] <ajmitch> but you haven't written what it is doing
[12:13] <mpathy> (00:07:25) mpathy: ajmitch: I changed it and he puts out the help text on sudo apt-get -f install
[12:14] <mpathy> the help text of lilo, as it would run wrong configured
[12:14] <mpathy> but lilo doesnt need parameters
[12:14] <ajmitch> pastebin, I don't know what you're referring to
[12:15] <ajmitch> I haven't seriously used lilo for years
[12:15] <mpathy> http://pastie.caboo.se/72501.txt
[12:16] <ajmitch> ok, try dropping the postinst_hook line, and changing do_bootloader = no to do_bootloader = yes
[12:17] <mpathy> dropping? you mean commenting out?
[12:17] <ajmitch> yeah, that should work
[12:18] <mpathy> its a server who is somewhere other.. if it wont boot it would be bad..
[12:19] <ajmitch> I know that feeling
[12:19] <ajmitch> is there a reason to use lilo, apart from that it usually just works?
[12:20] <mpathy> ajmitch: yeah it was because of some weird kind of config of the partitions and filesystems where my colleague said I HAVE to use it, because Grub doesnt work properly there.. I dont remember what exactly the problem was..
[12:21] <ajmitch> exciting
[12:22] <mpathy> what means do_bootloader? shouldnt it do it every time?
[12:22] <mpathy> but it worked. i try to restart it now..
[12:23] <ajmitch> do_bootloader is just an option for the complicated perl script that makes up the postinst
[12:23] <ajmitch> I don't follow most of it
[12:23] <mpathy> or, if I have solved the other weird things.. I have two mdadm.conf in two different places.. /etc/mdadm.conf and /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[12:23] <mpathy> oh okay
[12:23] <ajmitch> iirc it's been replaced in gutsy
[12:24] <mpathy> will gutsy be a LTR?
[12:24] <ajmitch> nope
[12:24] <ajmitch> (and nope, the same postinst is still used, just other parts of the build system replaced)
[12:24] <ajmitch> gutsy+1 may be LTS
[12:24] <mpathy> okay, than it was a good idea to upgrade to feisty.. need some new stuff on the server..
[12:26] <mpathy> ajmitch: do you know why I have two mdadm.conf? what is the redundant one and why its there? ;)
[12:26] <ajmitch> I only have one (/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf)
[12:26] <ajmitch> and this has been upgraded from somewhere near dapper to current gutsy
[12:27] <ajmitch> same file on the debian box here
[12:27] <mpathy> near dapper?
[12:28] <ajmitch> yeah, I installed initially from a daily testing iso of dapper
[12:28] <mpathy> okay.. I will note it.. if I got a not working system perhaps it was written in the wrong place
[12:29] <ajmitch> it appears that /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf takes priority if both exist
[12:30] <mpathy> yeah
[12:30] <mpathy> I will reboot.. Wish me luck..
[12:30] <ajmitch> heh
[12:40] <mpathy> ajmitch: another funny thing.. dist-upgrade installed apache2! I didnt wanted that because I use now fat apache on my server
[12:40] <mpathy> perhaps some meta-package did it.. but it shouldnt be
[12:41] <ajmitch> if something wanted apache2 | httpd, and you didn't have another webserver installed that provides 'httpd', it'd install it
[12:48] <mpathy> ajmitch: But today, the thoughts have changed, and people know that Apache isnt the only httpd ;) so I wonder why Lighttpd isnt in this metapackage
[12:48] <mpathy> however.. I deinstalled Apache
[12:48] <ajmitch> because any httpd package can provide the virtual package 'httpd', and lighttpd does
[02:38] <J-_>  after installing php, what should I increase my memory_limit to?
[02:45] <gejr> I've lost connection to my ubuntu server. It was connected through wireless (doh..)..my question is..is ifplugd loaded by default on ubuntu servers?
[02:45] <gejr> cause then i should be able to get in touch with it just by plugging in a network cable, right?
[02:46] <gejr> i reaaally don't want to reboot it, and i haven't got a monitor for it
[02:46] <gejr> so ssh'ing in is my only option
[02:46] <gejr> but for some odd reason it's gone offline :/
[02:46] <gejr> it's been on for 4 months straight now
[02:50] <gejr> can't anyone please take a look at their ubuntu-server's and see if ifplugd is running and if it's running as default.
[02:51] <ivoks> not running
[02:51] <gejr> I have a problem if it isn't...i'll have to get a new monitor and hope it'll be detected as soon as i plug it in..
[02:51] <gejr> doh :S
[02:51] <gejr> thanks ivoks
[02:51] <ivoks> ?
[02:51] <ivoks> monitor?
[02:51] <ivoks> ifplugd is just for ethernet devices
[02:51] <gejr> yea..i've lost connection to my server..it was connected with wireless and has been up for 4 months
[02:52] <gejr> it doesn't have a monitor, so i can't connect to it and see what's causing the error
[02:52] <ivoks> ah...
[02:52] <gejr> but if ifplugd was running it'd be easy to just plug in a network cable and check it out
[02:52] <ivoks> connections are automaticaly brought up, if it's so configured
[02:52] <gejr> now i'll need to pass some commands to it to get it up&running..
[02:53] <gejr> i guess i'll need to carry a monitor around :(
[02:53] <gejr> which log file is most likely to reveal the reason why the wireless net went down?
[02:53] <ivoks> syslog
[02:54] <gejr> i thought i needed ifplugd to get wired network working instantly?
[02:54] <gejr> syslog..ok thanks:*
[02:55] <ivoks> if your ethernet is configured as auto and dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, then you just need to plug in cable
[02:55] <ivoks> i'm not sure for static...
[02:55] <gejr> i haven't touched the /etc/network/interfaces i think..so if default is to have it running with dhcp then i guess i'm in luck
[02:56] <ivoks> default is how you set it up during installation
[02:56] <gejr> if i only could remember ;)
[02:57] <gejr> i tried plugging in a usb keyboard this morning..and running things like "dhclient ath0"
[02:57] <gejr> but i'm not really sure what state it's in at all
[02:57] <gejr> didn't seem to bring it up at least
[02:57] <gejr> it's weird..none of the other computers in the vicinity has lost their connection
[02:58] <ivoks> you have to log in first :)
[02:58] <ivoks> you can do one simple test;
[02:58] <ivoks> log in
[02:58] <ivoks> and run find /
[02:59] <gejr> i started by typing in username and password..
[02:59] <ivoks> if your hear disk working or led blinking, then your computer is running
[02:59] <ivoks> if not, it's dead
[02:59] <gejr> good idea
[03:00] <gejr> is find / the most resource intensive command i could run?:)
[03:00] <ivoks> it's easiest to type :)
[03:01] <gejr> hehe great stuff..i'll try it as soon as i get home :)
[03:01] <gejr> thanks a lot for your help mr.
[03:01] <ivoks> np
[03:16] <CrummyGummy> hi, should mysqls basedir be /usr?
[03:17] <`6og> CrummyGummy, no
[03:17] <`6og> /usr/local
[03:17] <`6og> or /usr/local/mysqlversion, depending on your preference
[03:28] <CrummyGummy> `6og, Thats wierd. So its a bad default?
[03:30] <`6og> CrummyGummy, i assumed you were buildign from source
[03:30] <`6og> CrummyGummy, packages should use /usr yes
[03:30] <ivoks> everything outside packages, should go in /usr/local/
[03:32] <CrummyGummy> Cool, thanks.
[03:32] <ivoks> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#THEUSRHIERARCHY
[03:32] <ivoks> The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when installing software locally.
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> Yeah, I'm just trying to solve a real wierd problem and looking in all the wrong places. I though that var might need to point to one of the mysql dirs.
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> I'm running circular replication between two servers and have been running 
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> quite well up till now. I have developed a wierd problem. When I update a 
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> field on server A server B gets updated and then both get reset to the 
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> original values. Also, the slave that gets started second doesn't catch up 
[03:34] <CrummyGummy> with the master ever.
[03:35] <CrummyGummy> This has just started happening since moving to Feisty.
[03:36] <ivoks> mysql?
[03:36] <CrummyGummy> yup
[03:37] <ivoks> http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=28850
[03:37] <ivoks> this is probably not related to your problem :/
[03:38] <CrummyGummy> hehe, thats me at the bottom of that page. 
[03:40] <CrummyGummy> adding relay_log       =       /var/lib/mysql/mysqld-relay-bin to the my.cnf file fixed that.
[09:39] <r00tintheb0x> Hey guys... what do you think is a better FTPd. Pure or VSFTPd?
[09:39] <r00tintheb0x> Hey guys... what do you think is a better FTPd. PureFTPD or VSFTPD?*
[09:40] <dendrobates> I haven't used pureftpd, but vsftpd was alright.
[09:40] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone know how i can do SSL over FTP?
[09:40] <coNP> it is not an usual scenario
[09:40] <dendrobates> why not use sftp is a part of ssh
[09:41] <coNP> usually ftp is done over ssl
[09:50] <leonel> r00tintheb0x:  the one that is supported ...  in this  case  vsftpf   proftpd  is in universe
[09:51] <r00tintheb0x> so proftpd or vsftpd will encrypt data over SSL?
[09:56] <dendrobates> r00tintheb0x: vsftpd does, by why use ftp and not sftp provided by sshd?
[10:08] <leonel> r00tintheb0x: and if the client is on windows there are sftp clients
[10:09] <r00tintheb0x> WinSCP is what we're using.
[10:12] <dendrobates> r00tintheb0x: WinSCP works great with both sftp and scp, both of which part of sshd
[10:12] <r00tintheb0x> heck yah :D
[10:12] <r00tintheb0x> SFTP is part of SSHd?
[10:13] <r00tintheb0x> I thought it'd be a FTPd.
[10:17] <dendrobates> nope, part oh ssh-server package.
[10:19] <dendrobates> infact it is enabled by default.
[10:19] <dendrobates> nothing to do except 'sudo apt-get install ssh'