[12:01] <DrFrasierCrane> ahorner: just type "envy" in google
[12:01] <DrFrasierCrane> it's the first link
[12:01] <Ahorner> *sigh* ok
[12:01] <DrFrasierCrane> :D
[12:01] <crdlb> DrFrasierCrane, good luck upgrading to gutsy in october
[12:01] <jontec> Warbo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1649077&postcount=6
[12:01] <TurtleBoots> anyone recommend a torrent client please?
[12:01] <DrFrasierCrane> crdlb: i wouldn't be so dramatic :-)
[12:01] <imbecile> !kiba
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Ahorner> bittorrent!
[12:01] <sluimers> It's weird, because the windows compute can ping the Ubuntu one..can someone help me with this?
[12:01] <Ahorner> !envy
[12:01] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:01] <imbecile> !kiba-dock
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Warbo> jontec: I went to stupid lengths to use RealPlayer on 32bit. I used to chroot into an old 32bit install of Dapper, but now use a 32bit Debian virtual machine
[12:02] <sluimers> !ping
[12:02] <ubotu> pong
[12:02] <Ahorner> what happened to envy?
[12:02] <vox754> acu: yeah, try a simple line with etx3 and another one with ntfs, the one that works is the correct one. DO not trust graphical interfaces. But you need to reboot a few times to be completely sure.
[12:02] <Ahorner> lol
[12:02] <Ahorner> !pong
[12:02] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[12:02] <Ahorner> ..
[12:02] <Luziphir> pfft, envy doesn't break your system, the restricted drivers manager on the other hand...
[12:02] <anestesya> ;j #ubuntu-br
[12:02] <sluimers> lol
[12:02] <gRaCiOsO> how could i put my dynamic dns in my lamp server it works with ssh and ftp but to my lamp server only with ip public not with the dns ?
[12:02] <Ahorner> lol
[12:02] <Ahorner> true, so true
[12:02] <DrFrasierCrane> !mario
[12:02] <TurtleBoots> lol
[12:03] <sluimers> !arkanoid
[12:03] <crdlb> !botabuse
[12:03] <rbs-tito> enviouz: You can set X to restart on login, which would mean logout works. But fast user switching doesn't
[12:03] <TurtleBoots> lol
[12:03] <DrFrasierCrane> :P
[12:03] <jontec> Warbo: alright... I've got a chroot working, but I need pacakges. I can't get X to start or do anything. (though it only has the root account, I haven't added normal users as the tutorial suggests)
[12:03] <crdlb> seems you killed it
[12:03] <Ahorner> is there a program i could use in place of envy?
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mario - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <TurtleBoots> lol
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arkanoid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:03] <crdlb> Ahorner, system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[12:03] <nconlon> hi
[12:03] <jontec> Warbo: it's a feisty kubuntu 32-bit
[12:03] <Ahorner> i have a ati radeon intregrated x200 vid ccard
[12:03] <enviouz> ok ty rbs-tito
[12:03] <Ahorner> and mobo
[12:03] <Luziphir> Ahorner: use envy, the other option is the restricted drivers manager included with ubuntu, it sucks
[12:03] <Ahorner> and a widescreen 1440x900 res
[12:03] <Warbo> restricted manager happily informed me that I have no hardware which can use non-free drivers. After I started using the nvidia-legacy driver it happily informed me that my hardware is using a non-free driver :P
[12:03] <bronze-> how do I install fonts in ubuntu? Is TTF supported?
[12:04] <TurtleBoots> rofl
[12:04] <vox754> !fonts
[12:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:04] <sluimers> I still need to know how I can ping my windows computer though.
[12:04] <Ahorner> Luziphir: ok thanks
[12:04] <acu> vox754 and persica - I am going to reboot - so I will be disconected - Thank you very much! - Oh still a silly question: is anyway to do a fdisk /mbr refresh or something like this in linux - I have another system with a hard disk which was formated on mac and I think I need to refresh the master boot record -and I do not have a DOS disk which can do that
[12:04] <DrFrasierCrane> bronze: http://www.stchman.com/ms_fonts.html
[12:04] <crdlb> Luziphir, please don't recommend envy here
[12:04] <silvertip257> I need assistance compiling openssh to be dependent on libs that my busybox environment has and not my running system
[12:04] <DrFrasierCrane> bronze: follow this guide if you want fonts like in  windows
[12:04] <crdlb> Ahorner, try the restricted manager first
[12:04] <Ahorner> oh god no
[12:04] <Ahorner> ive used envy before
[12:04] <Luziphir> crdlb: why not? I'm just trying to help people
[12:04] <TurtleBoots> crdld: why not recommend envy??
[12:04] <Ahorner> in 6.10
[12:05] <crdlb> because it's evil
[12:05] <TurtleBoots> *crdlb
[12:05] <Ahorner> lol
[12:05] <persica> acu: it probably has a gid partition table on there.  I'm not sure how easy it is to convert that to an fdisk layout or how well it works with the kernel.
[12:05] <Luziphir> crdlb: not as evil as the restricted drivers manager
[12:05] <vox754> acu: the format does nothing to the MBR I think. Only boot loaders do that.
[12:05] <Ahorner> it makes u envious
 my motherboard gigabyte ga-8vm800m-775, integrated card via 8237, desktop pc.
[12:05] <TurtleBoots> crdlb: how?
[12:05] <crdlb> Luziphir, no the restricted manager's work can be undone
[12:05] <Ahorner> hey is contiuum/subspace availible for linux?
[12:05] <Luziphir> crdlb: so can envy's
[12:05] <sluimers> lol @ Abhorner
[12:05] <Ahorner> :-)
[12:05] <acu> vox754: that it why I want to reset the mbr - because GRUB does not recognise it
[12:05] <TurtleBoots> lol @ sluimers
[12:06] <Luziphir> crdlb: and actually, last time I used the restricted drivers manager, it screwed my system up so much I couldn't get to the point to undo it
[12:06] <Ahorner> acu: oh god i had this problem before
[12:06] <acu> some messy apple type
[12:06] <jmchaffie> Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask, but it's been so long since I've had to put something in startup... where would I put beryl-manager so I don't have to manually start it everytime I login?
[12:06] <jontec> I need some help with chroot, I can't get X apps to start
[12:06] <Ahorner> acu: the thing i had to do was reformat and reinstall
[12:06] <jrib> !startup > jmchaffie (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:06] <tmukungu> hey could someone tell the file i need to look that shows all hard that was configured on boot up?
[12:06] <TurtleBoots> lol @ luziphir
[12:06] <tmukungu> at
[12:06] <persica> acu: Apple loves to do everything their own way.  At leas they're including ZFS.
[12:06] <Ahorner> lol
[12:06] <Ahorner> what does the z stand for
[12:06] <acu> what is ZFS
[12:06] <tmukungu> hey could someone tell the file i need to look at that shows all hardware that was configured on boot up?
[12:06] <soyporti> <jmchaffie: in system /preferences/sessions
[12:07] <jmchaffie> thank you very much.
[12:07] <Ahorner> z.. file system
[12:07] <Ahorner> lol
[12:07] <tmukungu> its not the motd
[12:07] <TurtleBoots> zfs = sun micro technology
[12:07] <vox754> !offtopic > Ahorner
[12:07] <tmukungu> i can't think ofit right now
[12:07] <Ahorner> lmao
[12:07] <soyporti>  <jmchaffie: you add beryl-manager to the list
[12:07] <Ahorner> *sigh8
[12:07] <persica> zfs = awesome file system.  Zetabyte File System
[12:07] <sluimers> that explains the abbreviation
[12:07] <Ahorner> wats zetabyte stand for
[12:07] <Ahorner> well what is it
[12:07] <sluimers> a lot
[12:07] <persica> Zetabyte is a quadrillion gigabytes or something like that.
[12:08] <TurtleBoots> a lot x100
[12:08] <Ahorner> ahh
[12:08] <sluimers> zetabyte stand for a a lot
[12:08] <Ahorner> i see
[12:08] <BlainN> Folks, I was trying to clean up my install (Feisty) by removing stuff I wasn't going to use (mostly multimedia stuff) and, apparently, it unistalled KDE.
[12:08] <Ahorner> well is it like exe for windows
[12:08] <Ahorner> for mac*
[12:08] <soyporti> <vox754: do you have any idea about the video card?
[12:08] <jmchaffie> Alrighty then.. I got it done. gonna relog to double check it. Thanks again!
[12:08] <m3thos>  ppl, anyone knows here I get a online price for a system with 64GB of ram ? (opteron or xeon)
[12:08] <acu> is any GUI to do this automount automatic stuff (too much messing with fstab - is like your car in the middle of the road and you try to fix it)
[12:08] <soyporti>  i mean the sound card
[12:08] <vox754> soyporti: nope. I'm gone
[12:08] <mrpoundsign> persica: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettabyte
[12:08] <tmukungu> anyone?
[12:08] <sluimers> zeta was beyond exa, peta, tera, giga, mega, kilo I think
[12:08] <BlainN> I've tried to install a number of packages that should seem to put KDE back in place, but, thus far, all I get is Konsole.
[12:08] <soyporti> thx anyway vox754
[12:08] <Ahorner> !gparted|acu
[12:08] <ubotu> acu: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:09] <Ahorner> acu: i hope thats wha u wanted
[12:09] <tmukungu> acu the live cd is great
[12:09] <Maz> can someone help me with sound only playing through headphones and not speakers?
[12:09] <tmukungu> i use it all the time
[12:09] <persica> Zeta is up there.  You couldn't get a Zettabyte on earth.
[12:09] <Renegado> opa
[12:09] <Ahorner> *sigh*
[12:09] <sgarza> when i try to "start o install" ubuntu feisty it goes to a black screen after the loading logo apears, i have an ATI x1600, is there any solution for this?
[12:09] <Ahorner> quit:
[12:09] <sluimers> persica, why not?
[12:09] <acu> Ahorner: tried G-parted actually QParted was better (I used Knoppix)
[12:09] <Maz> sgarza try waiting a few minutes?
[12:09] <persica> acu: I don't know of any graphical utilities.  I'm a console jockey.
[12:10] <Maz> does that on my 8800
[12:10] <sgarza> Maz: i leave the pc a whole night
[12:10] <acu> persica: thanks for all your help
[12:10] <Maz> ah nvm than
[12:10] <soyporti> does anyone have a VIA 8237 sound card? PLEASE!! sorry for that
[12:10] <jontec> acu: qtparted stinks... and I'm a kubuntu user
[12:10] <persica> sluimers: it exceeds the entropy available on earth.  There isn't enough information on earth basically.  (I don't have the numbers on me though).
[12:10] <acu> and same thanks go to vox754
[12:10] <tmukungu> could some tell me the log that shows all installed hardware on boot up on ubuntu?
[12:10] <persica> I'm not sure if it's Zettabyte or just the 2^128 that exceeds earth.
[12:11] <Dave132> can someone please update the stellarium build in the repositorys..thank you
[12:11] <jontec> soyporti: ask the *question* instead of asking if anyone has it. someone without one might be able to help you
[12:11] <Maz> so anyone know why sound is only coming through headphones?
[12:11] <soyporti> <jontec: it doesnt work for me i have feisty install
, must be 2^128
[12:12] <soyporti> how can i install that sound card?
[12:12] <soyporti> any tuto jontec?
[12:12] <jontec> soyporti: you need to be specific about your problem and don't address it to me, address it to the channel :D
 And even that figure is probably reachable on earth
[12:12] <soyporti> sorry
[12:12] <jontec> soyporti: you should search ubuntuforums (or google)
[12:13] <jontec> soyporti: (now you address your response to me)
[12:13] <soyporti> is not there i write an email to the "makers", i'm not really good at english
[12:13] <sluimers> I'm stil not getting help... :/
[12:13] <persica> sluimers: actually, ZFS can hold a lot more than a Zettabyte.  A Zettabyte is only 2^70, while ZFS is 2^128, or about 10^18 times larger.
[12:13] <jontec> soyporti: okay, I see :D... but there's probably someone who's had your problem
[12:14] <Renegado> ops
[12:14] <gRaCiOsO> how can i give permissions to a directory that an user could access there ?
[12:14] <Maz> :(
[12:14] <jrib> gRaCiOsO: what directory?
[12:14] <Maz> this sucks
[12:14] <harlemtech> I need help
[12:14] <jrib> !helpme | harlemtech
[12:14] <ubotu> harlemtech: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:14] <gRaCiOsO> jrib,  /var/www that one
[12:15] <jontec> gRaCiOsO: chmod 777?
[12:15] <harlemtech> okay
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> gRaCiOsO: opena terminal, gksudo nautiluis, navigate to the directory, right click, properties, permissions tab, then set accordingly
[12:15] <CoOlGhOsT> anyone with ideas as to why my external firewire drive does not turn off hen i shut down my machine???
[12:15] <jrib> gRaCiOsO: I would setup a group and give members of that group permission
[12:15] <jrib> !permission > gRaCiOsO (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:15] <doddi> graci: use chown to change ownership of file or directory
[12:15] <persica>  sluimers: Why we can't fill ZFS: http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/128_bit_storage_are_you  Now what was your question?
[12:15] <harlemtech> my restricted manager keeps giving me an error
[12:15] <greg_g> Question: in Software Sources (from System -> Admin) some of the repos are not checked, have a minus, or have a check.  I understand checked and not checked, but what does the minus means?
[12:15] <sluimers> persica, I can't seem to ping my windows computer.  don't know why.
[12:16] <jontec> can anyone tell me why mychroot can't connect to the internet? I'm connected wirelessly and left wondering.
[12:16] <persica> sluimers: can you connect to it otherwise?  Say, with 'smbclient -L //<windows ip>/'?
[12:16] <soyporti> i have to go now bye guys
[12:16] <persica> sluimers: I think current versions of windows block pings if they have the firewall enabled.
[12:16] <harlemtech> wont open keep asking me install this package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-server
[12:17] <Maz> so noone can awnser my question?
[12:17] <jrib> !please > Maz (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:17] <sluimers> persica, that's probably it, but I can't find anything still enabled
[12:17] <jontec> Maz: I didn't see where you asked a specific enough answer
[12:17] <jrib> harlemtech: what is the output of 'uname -a'
[12:17] <Maz> ah ok sorry
[12:18] <harlemtech> im new to ubuntu fiesty, so talk slow
[12:18] <Maz> jontec scroll up
[12:18] <persica> sluimers: what are the IP addresses of the two systems, I assume they're both on the same network and both can connect to the internet?
[12:18] <sluimers> persica, smbclient fails as well
[12:18] <kazol> Is there a way to make Ubuntu more verbose? For example, show transfer speeds when copying a file?
[12:18] <Maczimus> can xchat read to you using festival?
[12:18] <roho> !kdm
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <tmukungu> is there a way to remove all the mesg for exit and enter rooms?
[12:18] <sluimers> persica, yup they're 192.168.0.100 (Ubuntu) and 101 (Win XP)
[12:18] <jontec> Maz: I saw where you asked 'does anyone know why sound is only coming out of the speakers' or something to that effect, but you didn't give specifics on your sound card
[12:18] <jrib> tmukungu: depends on the client
[12:19] <Maz> its an ac'97
[12:19] <jontec> Maz: erm... headphones
[12:19] <tmukungu> bitchx
[12:19] <tmukungu> irssi
[12:19] <Maz> running ubuntu on notebook
[12:19] <persica> sluimers: if you don't have a firewall up on your ubuntu box yet, can your windows box ping your ubuntu box?
[12:19] <kazol> Any way to increase verbosity on Ubuntu?
[12:19] <sluimers> persica, yes
[12:19] <Maz> sound is perfect on headphones well the speakerssound as if they are muted or something
[12:19] <Maz> saw some other epople with this problem on the forums
[12:19] <norealgravity> hey how do i get window effects to work? i have hp computer with sis video. it doesnt work
[12:19] <sluimers> persica, why would I have a firewall on a Ubuntu box?
[12:20] <mx-zoom> Maz: HDA-Intel?
[12:20] <Maz> 1 sec
[12:20] <jrib> harlemtech: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:20] <preaction> !firewall | persica, sluimers
[12:20] <ubotu> persica, sluimers: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:20] <persica> sluimers: to protect it from network threats or limit access to promiscious services.
[12:20] <harlemtech> okay
[12:20] <Maz> Realtek ALC885 High-Definition Audio Codec
[12:20] <preaction> persica, sluimers: also, by default, ubuntu ships with no ports open
[12:21] <norealgravity> what video card do you use to get ubuntu window effects to work?
[12:21] <jontec> Maz: check your mixer (it's kmix on kubuntu, not sure what on ubuntu) i.e. the sound icon... the 'wave' maybe muted (mx-zoom seems to has specific information)
[12:21] <Cooner750> Hello
[12:21] <persica> preaction: Is that a feisty thing?  I recall iptables wasn't enable on my dapper box.
[12:21] <sluimers> persica, ah, so how do I open these ports?
[12:21] <persica> preaction: or do you just mean no running network services?
[12:21] <preaction> persica: since edgy at least
[12:21] <Cooner750> I installed Ubuntu while connected to a monitor that could only go to 1024x768. I have now connected to an  LCD which can do 1280x1024, but in Screen Resolution the highest is 1024x768. What do I do?
[12:21] <Bassetts> if you do a dist upgrade are all programs and config etc kept?
[12:22] <preaction> persica: as for "no ports open", i don't know if that means actual iptables rules against it or just no open network services. i just keep hearing the "ships with no ports open" thingy
[12:22] <mx-zoom> Maz: the realtek codec proably means you have an HDA-Intel... depending on your chip, you might need to patch your kernel's DST
[12:22] <Maz> nothings muted
[12:22] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy and a BCM43XX wifi chipset (via ndiswrapper). I want to connect to a EAP-TTLS secured WLAN? Is this possible? Where do I set this mode (I'm using knetworkmanager)?
[12:22] <persica> sluimers: it shouldn't affect your ability to ping out though, unless it is misconfigured and it sounds like you haven't changed anything.
[12:22] <Maz> mx-zoom how would i do that?
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> Bassetts, updated/graded, user configs are kept, yeah
[12:22] <persica> preaction: probably no open ports (e.g. you have to install openssh-server to get an ssh server up).
[12:22] <persica> preaction: it would be too complicated to have each script modify the iptables rules when it installed.
[12:22] <sluimers> persica, so it's a windows blocking it.. most likely?
[12:23] <Bassetts> Music_Shuffle, are all the programs installed kept?
[12:23] <persica> sluimers: probably.  I assume you can ping your gateway, right?
[12:23] <shwag> what runs on port 4949 ?
[12:23] <Music_Shuffle> Bassetts, yeh
[12:23] <mx-zoom> Maz: do some searching on HDA-Intel + laptop model and see what you get. I couldn't bother to do all tht stuff
[12:23] <harlemtech> Jrib I'm in classroom
[12:23] <sluimers> persica, yes
[12:23] <mx-zoom> Maz: so Ibought an usb adapter xD
[12:23] <Maz> Nice :D
[12:23] <persica> sluimers: then I pronounce this a windows issue! Not our problem. :-P
[12:23] <sluimers> persica, but I caan't find one still working on my winXP. I shut them all down.
[12:23] <jrib> harlemtech: you're not, type:  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[12:23] <persica> sluimers: what are you trying to do though?
[12:23] <jontec> mx-zoom: what's your make and model of your laptop
[12:23] <sluimers> The anti-virus and firewall
[12:24] <silvertip257> how can I compile a package from source, but only make it dependent on a compiled environment/libraries on my hard disk?
[12:24] <HoboBen> Hi all, I'm trying to get Firestarters' GUI to come up automatically on login, without needing a password prompt. If use "sudo visudo" and add "username ALL= NOPASSWD /usr/sbin/firestarter" to the bottom, then I cannot even open Firestarters' GUI - it says starting in the program list, then disappears.Any ideas?
[12:24] <xenex> I set wine as the default to open .exe's but whenever I double click an exe I get this: The filename "Some.exe" indicates that this file is of type "executable". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "DOS/Windows executable". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[12:24] <sluimers> persica, get access to a printer and look in shared folders
[12:24] <jontec> mx-zoom: I have a Gateway MX6446 and I've had trouble with sound in the past
[12:24] <xenex> Anyone know how to fix it? I can open the exe by right clicking then clicking wine
[12:24] <harlemtech> I'm there
[12:24] <Arenlor> The Ubuntu Live CD install starts up with a screen with multiple options, after I select any option it goes to a screen that says Ubuntu at the top and has a statusbar type thing, the graphic moves about a quarter away across the bar then freezes, anyone know what's going on?
[12:24] <jontec> mx-zoom: sorry, I meant the other guy
[12:25] <sluimers> persica, windows can see the shared folders on my Ubuntu one
[12:25] <greg_g> Question: in Software Sources (from System -> Admin) some of the repos are not checked, have a minus, or have a check.  I understand checked and not checked, but what does the minus means?
[12:25] <persica> sluimers: hrm.  'smbclient -L //<windows box>/' should at least prompt for a password if you're sharing folders/printers.
[12:25] <Cooner750>  Anyone have any ideas?
[12:25] <sluimers> persica, I get a timeout connecting to 192.168.0.101:445
[12:25] <jontec> Maz: what's the make and model of your laptop? I have a Gateway MX6446, and I've had problems with sound in the past
[12:25] <greg_g> Cooner750, have you edited a config file before?
[12:25] <sluimers> persica, and 139 if I try that
[12:25] <doddi> sluimers i think you can even smbclient test like persica is saying using ip address
[12:26] <Maz> jontec: everex xt5000t
[12:26] <Cooner750> greg_g: What do you mean by that? Have I ever done it, or have I done it on this machine?
[12:26] <greg_g> Cooner750, I'm asking because that is what you can do to fix this, just wondering what all to tell you
[12:26] <persica> silvertip257: when you compile from source there is usually a conifgure step that checks for what you have installed and compiles against that.
[12:26] <Maz> somone on newegg comments said same problem with speakers requiring tweaking under linux
[12:26] <persica> sluimers, you mean with nc/telnet?
[12:26] <Cooner750> greg_g: In that case, I've edited many config files on my non-GUI Linux server ;)
[12:26] <Maz> but didnt say what to do :(
[12:26] <Tienak> what is beryl?
[12:27] <jontec> Maz: that's not similar to mine, I don't think (but they could use the same card!), do some searches as mx-zoom suggested
[12:27] <greg_g> Cooner750, ok then, it is as simple as editing your xorg.conf file most likely
[12:27] <silvertip257> persica:  i''m trying to compile a pkg for another environment ... how do I keep it from using libs on my running system?
[12:27] <Maz> kk
[12:27] <persica> sluimers: you might try nmapping your windows box to see if you can find anything open.  'nmap -F 192.168.1.101'
[12:27] <Cooner750> greg_g: /etc/x11/xorg.conf I believe?
[12:27] <greg_g> Cooner750, correct (only the x is X )
[12:27] <__mikem> The day the final harry potter book comes out draws ever nearer
[12:27] <Tienak> can someone help me?
[12:27] <Pollywog> I am trying to install vmware but it complains it is already installed, but I can't uninstall it either
[12:28] <persica> silvertip257: oh, you want to compile against a different environment?  You will probably need all the libraries locally.  How different of an environment?
[12:28] <silvertip257> Tienak:  ask you question and someone may answer you
[12:28] <silvertip257> yes persica
[12:28] <__mikem> oops sorry, wrong tab
[12:28] <Pollywog> tarball btw I have not installed a deb
[12:28] <Tienak> how do i install beryl on ubuntu 7.04?
[12:28] <sluimers> persica, ?? it's the output on the terminal, installing nmap now
[12:28] <silvertip257> busybox vs xubuntu persica (busybox is the compiled one)
[12:28] <greg_g> Cooner750, just find the section that lists all of the resolutions for your monitor, should be near the end, and fairly obvious
[12:28] <BlainN_> Okay, folks, is there a way to remove packages that are part of the kubuntu desktop package without losing kde?
[12:28] <vlt> Is there a special ubuntu-wireless channel?
[12:28] <Cooner750> Yep I see it
[12:28] <doddi> Tienak you can get it from package manager
[12:29] <Tienak> im a noob to this
[12:29] <greg_g> Cooner750, if you want, you can pastebin your xorg.conf, I can edit it and pastebin it back to you
[12:29] <Tienak> i just switched over from windows
[12:29] <greg_g> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:29] <persica> slkuimers: Yeah, install nmap and then run it from a terminal.  There's an nmapfe (front end) if you really want it graphical.
[12:29] <Cooner750> brb
[12:29] <joe4444> i just installed AWN today and at first it worked fine, but after rebooting i always get a big black bar at the bottom of the screen... i read somewhere that the fix for this bug is to install beryl, but i already have beryl, so how can i get rid of this?
[12:29] <persica> silvertip257: pardon my ignorance, but I thought busybox was just a shell?
[12:29] <Cooner750> Hm
[12:29] <doddi> Tienak: click System -> Administrator -> Synaptic package manager
[12:29] <Cooner750> what's the best way to restart X, restarting the machine, or CTRL+ALT+Backspace ?
[12:30] <HoboBen> Hi all, I'm trying to get Firestarters' GUI to come up automatically on login, without needing a password prompt. If use "sudo visudo" and add "username ALL= NOPASSWD /usr/sbin/firestarter" to the bottom, then I cannot even open Firestarters' GUI - it says starting in the program list, then disappears. Any ideas?
[12:30] <joe4444> Cooner750: ctl+atl+backspace
[12:30] <Dave132> tienak try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:30] <silvertip257> persica:  well it's doesnt have a gui, but provides an almost full featured cli environment
[12:30] <harisamin> hey guys i have a big problem...i have a G4 poewrmac and i had badger installed on it it and updated all the way to edgy...i then tried to update to fesity without knowing that ther is no fesity powerpc update...anways so since then i've been using these alternate cds and live cds of badger dapper and edgy and they dont seem to work....the live cds i cant get to start and load  X11...they...
[12:30] <harisamin> ...just seem to hang...and the alternate cds they start installing the base system till when they start saysing that it cant install certain fiels and then stops installing the base system...
[12:30] <doddi> Tienak: then search for beryl and select to install and it will do everything else for you
[12:30] <harisamin> can anyone help me?
[12:31] <user_> euhm, guys, what was a command to eject cdrom agane plz?:)
[12:31] <oskude> wesolek, back
[12:31] <xst> Does anyone know where to get dvi2pdf?
[12:31] <Pollywog> eject
[12:31] <sluimers> persica, it doesn'y do much after typing in:  nmap -F -P0 192.168.0.101
[12:31] <sx66> how do you edit text in direction as in moving up down left right in GIMP?
[12:31] <persica> silvertip257: but it doesn't really include programs and libraries, does it?  How compilicated is this program?  If you're running on the same architecture you may be able to just compile it, copy t, and then run it from there.
[12:31] <user_> just like that, wow, ty, hehe :)
[12:31] <harisamin> can anyone help me out please?
[12:32] <persica> sluimers: it should give you a startup message, spend some time scanning, then print out open ports.
[12:33] <sluimers> persica, it doesn't get any further than: Starting Nmap 4.20 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2007-06-22 00:30 CEST
[12:33] <persica> silvertip257: I'm sorry, i don't really know much about compiling into busybox.
[12:33] <silvertip257> ah
[12:33] <nomic> i have selected a netgear wg111 usb wireless adapter because the ubuntu forums say it is compatible ... I have installed xubuntu and upon plugging in the wg111 wireless usb dongle it doesn't detect it
[12:33] <nomic> why not?
[12:33] <roho> !beryl
[12:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:33] <silvertip257> persica:  I cannot chroot to compile openssh (the pkg) so I dont know what to do
[12:33] <persica> sluimers: you have to give it time.  It's checking for open ports and such on the IP in question.  It's looking for ANYTHINg that's open.
[12:33] <Cooner750> Well that worked.
[12:33] <nomic> anyone
[12:33] <Pollywog> all you newbies if Ubuntu asks to autoremove packages, do not say yes
[12:34] <Cooner750> It went straight to 1280x1024 automagically
[12:34] <greg_g> Cooner750, right on
[12:34] <Cooner750> One little problem though
[12:34] <nomic> i have selected a netgear wg111 usb wireless adapter because the ubuntu forums say it is compatible ... I have installed xubuntu and upon plugging in the wg111 wireless usb dongle it doesn't detect it
[12:34] <greg_g> ??
[12:34] <nomic> anyone
[12:34] <persica> silvertip257: you're looking to add openssh to busybox?
[12:34] <Pollywog> someone needs to fix that bug
[12:34] <Cooner750> Text looks a little too sharp
[12:34] <Cooner750> Not a big deal
[12:34] <Psykus> windows had automatically been added to my grub boot list, since i'm dualbooting, but after installing the new kernels, the boot entry for windows disappeared, howto restore it?
[12:34] <persica> silvertip257: inbound or outbound?
[12:34] <mikeconcepts> audigy in xubuntu no sound
[12:34] <nomic> i have selected a netgear wg111 usb wireless adapter because the ubuntu forums say it is compatible ... I have installed xubuntu and upon plugging in the wg111 wireless usb dongle it doesn't detect it
[12:34] <nomic> anyone
[12:34] <silvertip257> yes persica: add it to the compiled environment
[12:34] <nomic> why not
[12:34] <greg_g> Cooner750, don't know about that
[12:35] <silvertip257> so I can boot busybox on another comp & run openssh
[12:35] <mikeconcepts> added mixed to panel, set to audigy
[12:35] <silvertip257> persica ^^^
[12:35] <elfranger> can anyone tell me an easy way of adding a locale to my ubuntu server?
[12:35] <thingfish> wow I didn't know if ubuntu was going to work on my new G965 core2duo box or not - but it works like a champ!
[12:35] <mikeconcepts> no sound
[12:35] <thingfish> desktop effects and everything
[12:35] <thingfish> sweet
[12:35] <sluimers> persica, How long could this take?
[12:35] <Agip> is a java version for ubuntu available?
[12:35] <mikeconcepts> #0: Audigy 1 [SB0090] 
[12:35] <HoboBen>  Hi all, I'm trying to get Firestarters' GUI to come up automatically on login, without needing a password prompt. If use "sudo visudo" and add "username ALL= NOPASSWD /usr/sbin/firestarter" to the bottom, then I cannot even open Firestarters' GUI - it says starting in the program list, then disappears.Any ideas? Has anyone here done it successfully, and if so, am I going the right way about it?
[12:35] <thingfish> elfranger: I don't know for sure, but if I were on Debian, I'd do dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:36] <sluimers> persica, ten minutes?
[12:36] <paritosh_> can anyone recommend a good torrent client?
[12:36] <persica> sluimers: well, if it's taking this long then it sounds like there's nothing on the other end of that IP.   Are you sure you have the IP right?
[12:36] <sluimers> persica, yes, very sure
[12:36] <paritosh_> i cant really find good torrent clients with synaptic. azureus seems to keep crashing all the time
[12:36] <BlainN_> paritosh_ -- ktorrent
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> !ktorrent
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <oskude> sluimers, were you able to ping the linux machine from windows ?
[12:37] <took> !info ktorrent
[12:37] <sluimers> persica, yes
[12:37] <paritosh_> blainN_: is it for gnome?
[12:37] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB
[12:37] <persica> sluimers: hrm.  Sounds like you have a very restrictive firewall between the two then. :)
[12:37] <sluimers> oskude, yes
[12:37] <BlainN_> It's not for gnome, but it might run under it.
[12:37] <elfranger> thingfish: great! thanks
[12:37] <Zunino> Hi. Could anybody point me to a suitable IRC chat room where I could ask questions about Gnome's VFS (Virtual File System)? I am having problems with setting up a remote SSH connection. Gnome's Places->Connect to Server feature.
[12:37] <oskude> sluimers, hmm...
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> paritosh_: no, ktorrent is for KDE, but it will install the libraries necessary to use it if you have Gnome.. you can also google using Utorrent wi/ wine, if thats your thing
[12:37] <Pollywog> vmware still complains about my kernel headers and will not install
[12:37] <elfranger> I had actually added them but needed to reconfigure to activate them
[12:37] <Pirate_Hunter> Hi everyone, I accidentally removed my Firestarter & Frostwire (while running) from system tray and now I don't know how to put it back also I cant close it as I wont be able to access it in the system tray. Can someone tell me how to put them back
[12:37] <Pollywog> vmware server from a tarball
[12:38] <thingfish> elfranger: hey my pleasure
[12:38] <rwaller> hello all can any one help me? I did have my tv pluged up to my tv by s-video, The tool i did this with i did have on my pc :( But i had to re do all of it and at the same time i did not out the tool on a pendrive! Do any one no of any nvidia graphic card tools for linux ubuntu? I am kicking my self
[12:38] <persica> sluimers: you could try running wireshark/ethereal on both ends and then ping to watch what happens to the traffic.
[12:38] <paritosh_> blainN_, IndyGunFreak: thanks
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> NP
[12:38] <thingfish> elfranger: now I don't have to do without linux!
[12:38] <BlainN_> paritosh_  You're welcome.
[12:38] <thingfish> because I am not at all sure that etch will work on this box.
[12:38] <paritosh_> is there a general way to use dial up connections on linux
[12:38] <elfranger> DAMN, I still get english day and month names...
[12:38] <sluimers> persica. okay
[12:38] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter - are you talking about the launchers/shortcuts on the toolbars?
[12:38] <paritosh_> i found the ubuntu way of using pon dsl-provider thing
[12:39] <thingfish> paritosh_: good luck
[12:39] <paritosh_> i wanted to run the dialup on arch linux
[12:39] <thingfish> paritosh_: linux is not kind to winmodems.
[12:39] <joshritger> can someone please tell me if I want to make a file server that is accessible from windows boxes do I want the desktop version or the Server edition
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> paritosh_: sometimes its easy, sometimes its hard, really depends on the modem.
[12:39] <sluimers> persica. I'll have to d/l them first and my connection is slow
[12:39] <elfranger> do I need to restart something after reconfiguring the locales?
[12:39] <persica> sluimers: it sounds really strange that the firewalls are off and you can only send traffic one direction.  My instincts are that the IP you're putting in on the linux end is wrong or there's a firewall.
[12:39] <likwidtek> sup guys, anyone use wubi-installer?  If so... you still have to reboot to switch operating systems correct?
[12:39] <paritosh_> actually, i have an adsl connection. i need to run it in bridged mode
[12:39] <paritosh_> it was possible on ubuntu
[12:39] <likwidtek> It doesn't work like VMWARE or anythign right?
[12:39] <BlainN_> paritosh -- google for "linmodem" and you can find information about using winmodems under linux.  Don't know how Ubuntu-aware the information is, though.
[12:39] <leviatan> someone could help me please? how can I get 5.1 sound with mi via8237 audio card?
[12:40] <thingfish> oh hehe elfranger you were commenting on my suggestion to use dpkg-reconfigure locales...it took me a moment
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> paritosh_: no idea, sorry
[12:40] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: Im talking about when u close the program it doesn't close but goes in the system tray on the top right-hand corner, now if i close it i wont be able to open it again in the system tray
[12:40] <thingfish> man I cannot believe how fast this box booted this livecd
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> Pirate_Hunter: dd you ever figure out that printer issue?
[12:40] <thingfish> on my previous box, it took like 2 minutes
[12:40] <BlainN_> I respect trying to use a modem with linux -- I waited to run linux until I had a dsl connection and could just have it autodetect my nic.
[12:40] <thingfish> on my new one, it took like 45 seconds
[12:40] <persica> sluimers: on the linux end you could just run tcpdump.  It's ugly and console based, but will show you the traffic none the less.  (you'd want to do 'tcpdump -I eth0 host 192.168.0.101')
[12:40] <persica> sluimers: or is it '-i'...
[12:40] <oskude> joshritger, i think the server version just doesnt have any graphical user interface installed by default... but both can use the very same applications
[12:41] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter, sorry, I'm not getting you clearly. You can't open Firestarter once you've closed it from the system tray?
[12:41] <Pirate_Hunter> IndyGunFreak: nope my best bet is to either buy a new printer or pay for the premium version of turbo print
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> hnn
[12:41] <joshritger> oskude: is there a benefit to not having a graphic interface?
[12:42] <kdiggdy> hi
[12:42] <leviatan> someone could help me please? how can I get 5.1 sound with my via8237 audio card? ;(
[12:42] <persica> sluimers: all those traffic analyzers will do is show you what's going in and out on the wires.  If the ping leaves your linux machines but doesn't go into your windows system, then there is a firewall on the windows system or something in between.  If it gets to the windows system but isn't returned, well that's a windows issue.
[12:42] <oskude> joshritger, not so much cpu usage, and not so much ram "wasted"...
[12:42] <ubuB0nk3rs> anyone here using ccsm? I'm trying to set the cube further into my 'screen'.. am I missing the option?
[12:42] <kdiggdy> can someone help me with installing compiz or beyrl
[12:42] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: I accidentally removed it cause i clicked on the wrong section(I was suppose to maximise it) and now I can't see it running on the system tray and if i open it again Im just creating to instances of the same program, I just want it to go back the way it was
[12:42] <oskude> joshritger, and not so much hd space used...
[12:42] <persica> sluimers: I'm betting there's just some silly misconfiguration in there somewhere that you didn't notice.  It usually seems to be that way.
[12:42] <joshritger> oskude: ok, is it hard to set up
[12:43] <sluimers> persica. okay, just  sec, I'll install wireshrak on my xp first
[12:43] <mok> /quit
[12:43] <kdiggdy> helllo
[12:43] <joshritger> oskude: I am familiar with the desktop edition, but I am not too good with the command line type of stuff
[12:43] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter, okay, I see... So, you're expecting it to shrink to the system try, but it's not appearing there?
[12:43] <oskude> joshritger, install should be easy with general pc knowledge, but setting up additional services/software could be harder, for beginners of liux
[12:43] <Bassetts> are there any decent personal desktop wikis?
[12:44] <Plantain> If I want to access a network mount point through a terminal, how would I do it? (Where are network drives mounted?)
[12:44] <oskude> joshritger, then i would suggest using the desktop (if youre hardware allows it)
[12:44] <oskude> -e
[12:44] <elfranger> MOHAAAAHAAAHAAAA, locales are now in perfect order!
[12:44] <joshritger> oskude: ok, I guess I can try out the desktop version for now and if it works I will try the server edition when I get more used to it
[12:44] <joshritger> oskude: thanks for the help
[12:45] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: yup thats right, funny thing is that Firestarter is set to minimise to system tray so even if I close it and start it again it dont happen, the same for Frostwire
[12:45] <oskude> joshritger, yup. and for sharing stuff for windows, try !samba
[12:45] <BlainN_> Plaintain -- What kind of mount points?  NFS mounts should be in fstab iirc.
[12:45] <joshritger> oskude: thanks
[12:45] <sluimers> persica. looks like that's gonna take while, how do I use tcdump when it's running in my terminal?
[12:46] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter -  to solve the problem of having two instances running at once, you could open System Monitor (View > My Processes, if not already set to that) and find the process, right click and "End Process"
[12:46] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter - however, that's probably not ideal as you'd prefer a fix to the system tray problem
[12:46] <Bassetts> are there any decent personal desktop wikis?
[12:46] <imbecile> can anyone recommend any docks besides kiba?
[12:47] <sluimers> persica. I type in sudo tcpdump -i eth0 host 192.168.0.101 and it says:
[12:47] <persica> sluimers: actually, I think I can set up a test situation just like yours.
[12:47] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: yup i just want to fix it, you know how?
[12:47] <sluimers> persica, okay
[12:47] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter, I'm just having a quick search, no promises though
[12:47] <sluimers> persica, bbias, loo
[12:48] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: kk ill wait this gives me a chance to do something else
[12:48] <oskude> wesolek, back ?
[12:48] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter - in the mean time, if you can check your toolbars and check if the nearby icons to the notification panel aren't "Locked to Panel" might possibly help
[12:49] <orkydea> hi
[12:49] <jshriver> How do you edit the firewall rules for ubuntu?
[12:49] <orkydea> in fstab is umask=000 USER permissions?
[12:49] <BlainN_> Hi orkydea
[12:49] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter - if you right click your panel, choose "Add to Panel", scroll down and select "Notification Area", and drag this onto your toolbar (experiment with anywhere for now), see if Firestarter will appear there.
[12:49] <jshriver> I need to allow 22 to be open
[12:49] <thingfish> orkydea: what are you wanting to accomplish?
[12:50] <sluimers> persica, back
[12:50] <orkydea> thingfish: I have a partition ready for my multimedia stuff and I wanna mount it PERMANENTLY in /media/Multimedia
[12:50] <BlainN_> iirc, umask=000 just means that file permissions (user, group, world) remain unchanged.
[12:50] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: that worked four instances running cause of that mistake
[12:50] <orkydea> thingfish: I always have problems and all the stuff I mount is ROOT
[12:51] <jontec> realplayer cannot find my shared libraries, how can I fix this? (libgtk-x11-2.0.so, libatk-1.0.so, libpango-1.0.so, libpangox-1.0.so) I believe that I have the necessary packages (I run GTK+ apps in KDE all the time)
[12:51] <thingfish> orkydea: is this on an ntfs partition?
[12:51] <orkydea> thingfish: no it's a XFS
[12:51] <thingfish> eww
[12:51] <thingfish> no idea
[12:51] <imbecile> can anyone recommend any docks besides kiba?
[12:51] <thingfish> is xfs native to linux?
[12:51] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter, that worked as in success? (My brain's fried today sorry!)
[12:51] <thingfish> if it is, maybe all you need is 'defaults'
[12:52] <orkydea> thingfish: yes XFS is native
[12:52] <thingfish> orkydea: sorry, wish I knew
[12:52] <orkydea> thingfish: why eww? XFS is awsome
[12:52] <orkydea> OMG what I am supposed to put in fstab????
[12:52] <thingfish> orkydea: not "eww" because it's bad, "eww" because I know nothing about it. ;)
[12:53] <orkydea> oh
[12:53] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: thanx learnt something new now i know how to fix this incident, I just wished the option to remove wasn't always available. Well you should get a rest I should do some work just been lazy today and haven't completed the database and the boss may want it any time now lol
[12:54] <HoboBen> Pirate_Hunter, good, I'm glad it was fixed :-) And I'm glad I managed to actually get a solution with this tired old mind! I'm off to bed, good night :-)
[12:54] <persica> sluimers: on a work call, be a sec
[12:54] <wesolek> oskude, I'm back... a bit late but had to get my ferret sorted
[12:54] <Pirate_Hunter> HoboBen: Goodnight
[12:54] <HoboBen> Night all. :-)
[12:54] <oskude> wesolek, ok
[12:55] <wesolek> oskude, glad you're still here
[12:55] <stupac> I have a weird internet issue, when I logon I can't normally get on the internet until I refresh the connection using ifup/ifdown
[12:55] <stupac> Then the connection seems to work, at least for a bit, but its kind of intermitten, sometimes I have to refresh it over again
[12:55] <stupac> I am using a dual boot with windows, and the networking works 100% in windows, so I know its not a defective card, its the same with both wireless and eth
[12:55] <sluimers> persica, I changed eth0 into ath0 in the tcdump thing, it's running wild now
[12:55] <sluimers> persica, okay
[12:55] <oskude> wesolek, btw. do you got a router ? so you can ssh from windows ?
[12:56] <wesolek> I've got a router, yes
[12:56] <persica> sluimers: yeah, that's all the network traffic, packet by packet.  You can change the expression at the end to filter it.  It's a very handy tool for diagnosing network issues.
[12:56] <wesolek> not sure if I can ssh to the other laptop from windows though, oskude
[12:56] <mikeconcepts> no sound still
[12:56] <oskude> wesolek, with this it goes http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:57] <sluimers> persica, okay, so that info is all my other computer slowly downloading wireshark
[12:57] <sluimers> persica, my connection is uberslow ^_^;;;
[12:57] <oskude> wesolek, and for irc client you could try http://silverex.info/download/ (i just googled it, so dunno if its what it claims...)
[12:57] <wesolek> I've got putty
[12:58] <oskude> wesolek, good
[12:58] <thingfish> man, being an old-time Debian fan and user, I always kind of disliked Ubuntu...but since it's working so fantastically excellent on my new PC, now I kind of love it.
[12:58] <persica> sluimers: if you have a switched network then you should only see packets destined for your computer.
[12:59] <sluimers> persica, I have a wireless router if that's what you mean.
[01:00] <wesolek> osuke, what is the URI of this chat?
[01:01] <oskude> freenode.net
[01:01] <persica> sluimers: switches only forward packets to the system for which they're destined.  Hubs just rebroadcast everything they receive to everyone.  Most routers these days are switched.
[01:01] <oskude> wesolek, room #ubuntu on freenode.net
[01:02] <persica> sluimers: I'm pretty stumped right now.  I don't have a good windows system to test on, but I'm having the same problem with one of my WindowsXP boxes.  My guess is it's windows being restrictive.
[01:02] <petr4> hello. Who is interested in how to workaround some hibernate-related network problem, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26681/. Solution/workaround included.
[01:02] <wesolek> oskude, I can't connect
[01:02] <oskude> wesolek, hmm, what error do you get ?
[01:02] <KingNothing> Is it possible to set a max width for the window titles / icons displayed in window lists?
[01:02] <wesolek> socket error, oskude
[01:03] <persica> sluimers: the timeouts connecting to 445 and 139 seem to imply a firewall is turned on or file sharing is turned off.
[01:03] <wesolek> connection time out, oskude
[01:03] <sluimers> persica, well it's only 15 minutes until the download is finished so I can test both sides
[01:03] <pipatron> Hey hey, I want to use distcc with "apt-get -b source", but I can't find where to tell it to run the make in parallell, any hints?
[01:03] <petr4> KingNothing: it interrests me too.
[01:03] <oskude> wesolek, hmm... "internet" works on the windows machine ?
[01:04] <drgeb> Hi Is there away to remove and uninstall everything related to gdm all configuration files etc and then reinstall this. The gdm somehow is not comming back up
[01:04] <persica> sluimers: I dont' know if Windows will do this, but can you test that it can connect to it's own shares, e.g. Run.. '\\192.168.0.101\'
[01:04] <wesolek> yes, oskude lol
[01:04] <petr4> pipatron: read distcc documentation. i think you have to set up some environment variable
[01:05] <petr4> pipatron: and i do not know if apt-get can be used for compiling
[01:05] <oskude> wesolek, hmm, if it has the same UI design as xchat2 on ubuntu, look how the settings are on linux
[01:05] <oskude> wesolek, or which irc are you using under ubuntu ?
[01:05] <petr4> drgeb: open synaptic, find gdm package and choose reinstall
[01:06] <oskude> wesolek, oh, try "irc.freenode.net" for the server
[01:06] <pipatron> petr4: distcc is set up correctly, the problem is to tell apt-get to call all the compiling steps in parallel, otherwise distcc never gets the chance to do its jobg
[01:06] <pipatron> -g
[01:06] <wesolek> Xchat, oskude
[01:06] <wesolek> ok, oskude
[01:07] <petr4> pipatron: then i cannot help you. its beyond my knowledge
[01:07] <wesolek> I'm in
[01:07] <wesolek> oskude
[01:07] <sluimers> persica, sorry, I fell asleep a bit, already did and suceeded
[01:07] <oskude> wesolek, ok
[01:08] <wesolek> yrth on the other computer, oskude
[01:08] <oskude> wesolek, now log in to that linux machine with putty
[01:08] <yrth> now we can start oskude :)
[01:08] <oskude> yrth, now log in to that linux machine with putty
[01:09] <persica> sluimers: A little tired?
[01:09] <sluimers> persica, yup
[01:10] <persica> sluimers: Alright, I'm thinking that means that the file sharing is enabled, it is just getting blocked somewhere.
[01:10] <persica> sluimers: you don't have anything like an anti-virus suite which includes "internet protection" or the like, do you?
[01:10] <persica> sluimers: no third-party firewalls?
[01:11] <FarrisG> I'm seeing some very strange behavior: I have about 60 ubuntu boxes in my datacenter, all with the same NFS mounts from an EMC celerra. On all my machines with a Broadcom 5704 NIC, NFS is VERY slow, close to 26Mbit/s. Machines with any other NIC, including other broadcoms, get about 200Mbit/s reads. In fact, even on the ones with BCM5704, all other network troughput is great. Example I can SCP a 50MB file in about 2 seconds, but on the same host, copy
[01:11] <sluimers> persica, I think I turned those off as well
[01:11] <FarrisG> Any ideas what could be making NFS so slow just on these machines with BCM5704?
[01:11] <yrth> oskude, how can I check the IP on linux?
[01:11] <oskude> ifconfig
[01:11] <rikstah> how do you define a directory with a space in it in smb.conf ? using \ to escape does not work
[01:12] <oskude> yrth, ifconfig, in the terminal
[01:12] <ttrimble> anyone know how i could get my ubuntu server box to go into standby after a certain amount of time, then wake up when i SSH without needing to send a WOL packet, as well as telling it to stay awake until processes (like a compile or something) are finished?
[01:12] <TTT_Travis> I have my ubuntu box set to print to a windows shared printer, is there a way I can make my other clients print to the ubuntu computer instead of the windows printer so client - > Ubuntu - > Windows?
[01:12] <preaction> FarrisG: what does vmstat say when you're doing the transfers?
[01:12] <iTurtle> !bugs
[01:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:13] <yrth> ok oskude, I'm in
[01:13] <persica> ttrimble: the WOL function is controlled by the montherboard I believe.  You'd have to configure the motherboard to wake on SSH.  You could probably configure it to spin down drives and such without truly hibernating.  I'd search the web.
[01:13] <persica> sluimers: It really sounds like there is a firewall of some sort enable on the Windows system and I'm not a great windows admin.
[01:13] <ttrimble> hmm, thanks persica
[01:13] <iTurtle> I found a bug in Ubuntu. If you type in the console "open video.avi" (assuming that video.avi is a file), it gives you an answer in bad grammar: "Couldnt get a file descriptor" :)
[01:14] <oskude> yrth, stop any running X with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[01:14] <pi3> can I use $ mysql to connect to a remote db?
[01:14] <preaction> pi3: yes, use the -h switch (host). read man mysql
[01:14] <shadowhywind> hay there, when using twinview, is there a way just to make the taskbar stay on one screen, and not extend on both?
[01:15] <yrth> ok done, oskude
[01:15] <orkydea> to change ownershit to USER should I use this? chown -R user /this/directory?
[01:15] <FarrisG> preaction: "vmstat" alone looks the same during a transfer as when not transfering
[01:15] <sluimers> persica, neither am I, I just disabled anything looking like belonging to the anti-virus or firewall in the task manager
[01:15] <oskude> yrth, look that you have ati and usefbdev in xorg.conf, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:15] <pi3> thank you, preaction
[01:15] <mortuis99> !twinview
[01:15] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:15] <jshriver> How do you edit the firewall in Ubuntu?
[01:15] <persica> sluimers: Did you disable the windows firewall in the control panel?
[01:15] <preaction> FarrisG: you should run something like "vmstat 3" to see the results every 3 seconds. look specifically at "iowait"
[01:15] <sluimers> persica, yes
[01:15] <pi3> jshriver: the firewall is iptables, you can install firestarter
[01:15] <petr4> jshriver: i have heard about tool "firestarter"
[01:15] <mortuis99> !DualHead
[01:15] <jshriver> thanks
[01:15] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:15] <preaction> !paste | FarrisG, you may want to pastebin the output from the slow and the fast ones
[01:15] <ubotu> FarrisG, you may want to pastebin the output from the slow and the fast ones: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <joetheodd> I'm feeling incredibly stupid, but I forgot how to make a symlink.
[01:16] <petr4> jshriver: pi3 is right
[01:16] <preaction> joetheodd: ln -s
[01:16] <petr4> ln --sumbolic
[01:16] <jshriver> apt-get installing now :) thanks
[01:16] <joetheodd> preaction: Thanks :P
[01:16] <gtrplr> I am installing 7.04 server, it's OK until it load additional componemts. It always stops at 21%.
[01:16] <hall> how do i remove a program so i can reset the config on it
[01:16] <yrth> it's vesa now (as expected) and FB is on, oskude
[01:16] <orkydea> should I umask=0000 in fstab?
[01:16] <orkydea> thanks
[01:16] <preaction> hall: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[01:16] <sluimers> persica, whoops, on second guess...
[01:17] <oskude> yrth, then change "vesa" to "ati"
[01:17] <shadowhywind> those help files don't say anything about the task bar
[01:17] <petr4> good night people
[01:17] <orkydea> I need read write access for XFS partition
[01:17] <KingNothing> anyone have any experience with gconf-editor?
[01:17] <kdiggdy> how do you install .cgwdtheme with compiz
[01:17] <gtrplr> no server help?
[01:17] <sluimers> persica, okay, I can ping! Whoohoo!
[01:17] <persica> sluimers: what was it?
[01:17] <four80-6> hello. Im curious, is there an application anyone could recommend that will do a virus/spyware/malware scan via a network? (98/XP/Ubuntu)
[01:18] <yrth> done, (I thought we had already done it before) ;-0
[01:18] <persica> four80-6: via a network?  What system are you scanning?
[01:18] <yrth> sokude
[01:18] <yrth> oskude
[01:18] <kdiggdy> anyone at all?
[01:18] <persica> four80-6: if a file system is exported via any of the many file-sharing protocolls, then theoretically you could scan it on the remote machine.
[01:18] <oskude> yrth, now you can try to start gdm again, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:18] <sluimers> persica, the windows was still on, I haven't used windows in such a long time, I assumed you'd see the firewall working in the tray.
[01:18] <persica> four80-6: I don't see why you wouldn't be able to.
[01:19] <sluimers> persica, It's my mom's computer actually
[01:19] <four80-6> persica: my main operating machine is ubuntu.. but I have a printer (large format) that can only run on windows.. and this machine keeps getting infected with schmunt.
[01:19] <persica> sluimers: Ah, see told you it would be something silly.  Can you connect to shares now?
[01:19] <orkydea> nobody is answering me :-(
[01:19] <yrth> but the xserver is still on the other laptop, oskude
[01:19] <sluimers> persica, yes, now I'm trying to print a test page
[01:19] <oskude> yrth, OH
[01:19] <oskude> yrth, sec
[01:19] <saint-takeshi> is ubuntu easier than debian to get ATI drivers working?
[01:19] <yrth> I mean I remotely changed it, but the screen didn't change a bit, oskude
[01:20] <persica> four80-6: the windows system keeps getting infected?  Why not run the virus scan on the system that gets infected?
[01:20] <FarrisG> preaction: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26684/
[01:20] <sluimers> persica, ohhhhh, that sounds good.....:D
[01:20] <preaction> saint-takeshi: imho, yes
[01:20] <yrth> and mouse is working, oskude
[01:20] <pyrak> how do i check which version of ubuntu i'm running? (dapper, edgy, breezy, etc)?
[01:20] <saint-takeshi> awesome. reformatting ahoy
[01:20] <persica> sluimers: yay!  Now you can go take a nap or something, eh?
[01:20] <sluimers> persica, sweet sound of a printer working
[01:20] <FarrisG> preaction: Wait time does jump up.
[01:20] <oskude> yrth, are you running ubuntu ? or kubuntu or xubuntu ?
[01:20] <sluimers> persica, zzzzzz
[01:20] <sluimers> persica, thanks for the help
[01:20] <yrth> ubuntu 7.04, oskude
[01:20] <four80-6> persica: I am.. its an annoyance. just curious about 'automating' the process... this way I can have my network scanned either realtime, or on schedule basis.. and it would include any OS...
[01:21] <sluimers> persica, really appreciated it
[01:21] <pyrak> how do i check which version of ubuntu I am running (breezy, dapper, edgy, etc?)
[01:21] <oskude> yrth, hmm, then i wonder why its still running, try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" couple times (what a stupid advice, sorry)
[01:21] <preaction> FarrisG: but how about compared to the faster ones? if they don't jump up as much, it might be your hard drive speed
[01:21] <persica> four80-6:  There might be two approaches, one would be scanning via a network file system, the other owuld be running a smart firewall that blocks malicious files.
[01:22] <yrth> oskude, my putty says it's done it... closed the GNOME
[01:22] <four80-6> smart firewall?
[01:22] <preaction> FarrisG: wait, you're saying that NFS is slower than SCP?
[01:22] <oskude> yrth, but screen is still there ?
[01:22] <pyrak> how do i check which version of ubuntu i'm running?
[01:22] <four80-6> like a Linksys WRT300N?
[01:22] <FarrisG> preaction: Definitely not the hard drive speed. Like I said, If I use scp to copy the same file from the same host instead of NFS, to the same local drive, it gets about 200Mbps
[01:22] <FarrisG> preaction: Yes
[01:22] <kdiggdy> how do i install new themes?
[01:22] <yrth> yes sir, oskude
[01:22] <mapez> pyrak.. System -> About Ubuntu
[01:22] <FarrisG> preaction: But NFS on other clients is just as fast as scp
[01:22] <persica> four80-6: I'm thinking like one of the fancy Astaro systems, but any linux router could be set up to scan traffic.
[01:23] <oskude> yrth, then try login out through linux gui, do you get the login screen ?
[01:23] <yrth> oskude this chat client is much worse, doesn't make me red when somebody says my name :(
[01:23] <oskude> yrth, *logout
[01:23] <FarrisG> preaction: same network. The only commonality between the slow ones is the BCM5704 driver
[01:23] <FarrisG> err, NIC
[01:23] <oskude> yrth, you could make a bug report :P
[01:23] <persica> four80-6: Does the system pick up malicious files mostly through network attacks or by downloading files?
[01:23] <oskude> yrth, or we could go pm
[01:23] <preaction> FarrisG: but why would that driver distinguish between NFS and SCP?
[01:23] <four80-6> persica: thanks! Im going to look into that further.
[01:23] <yrth> oskude, pm?
[01:23] <FarrisG> Is there a way to determine what version of the tg3 source was used for the module I'm using?
[01:23] <four80-6> just downloaded files
[01:24] <pyrak> mapez, cant find it
[01:24] <UnNaturalHigh> could anyone here tell me if KVM requires VT support in the cpu or can it manage without it?
[01:24] <four80-6> im trying to learn this anyway in case anyone would be in this situation also.. this way I can offer my assistance.
[01:24] <bam_> hi.I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could format my free space on my harddisk to vfat32 from linux? I have tried qtparted...but doesnt work.
[01:24] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh you need vt support for the cpu i believe
[01:24] <FarrisG> preaction: I don't think it's distinguising it, I think it's just a bug of some kind... If I do a tcpdump I see thousands of dropped/retransmitted packets during an NFS xfer
[01:24] <persica> four80-6: if the users are downloading them, then a little user-education might be in order. :)
[01:24] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, ahhh, ok, guess I will use xen then
[01:24] <persica> four80-6: I like to suppliment my user-education with a baseball bat.
[01:24] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, have you per chance setup Xen on feisty fawn?
[01:24] <bam_> When I format, afterwards all I get is a partition where it says that the format i unknown and that I cant do anything with the partition.
[01:24] <KingNothing> pyrak: System -> About Ubuntu -> Version and Release Number
[01:24] <four80-6> persica: true. its only windows though... ubuntu has been just bliss.
[01:25] <bam_> I am using kubuntu
[01:25] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh You will need an x86 machine running a recent Linux kernel on an Intel processor with VT (virtualization technology) extensions, or an AMD processor with SVM extensions (also called AMD-V). Xen has a complete list of compatible processors.
[01:25] <preaction> FarrisG: sounds like something you might want to report to kernel.org
[01:25] <kdiggdy> does anyone know how to install themes?
[01:25] <flami> Hi is the a gui for apt that support the better dependency management of aptitude ?
[01:25] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh the ubuntu wiki has information on how to set up xen, its great :)
[01:25] <yrth> oskude Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[01:25] <preaction> FarrisG: or maybe launchpad.net kernel team
[01:25] <oskude> yrth, darn...
[01:25] <pyrak> kingnothing, yes, that's just generic information it doesnt tell me my version
[01:25] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, well, I noticed the wiki entry, but I am trying to use ubuntu as the base for xen and gentoo as the domU
[01:25] <yrth> oskude, I can see what you type though, in that window
[01:26] <yrth> I will try to fix it quickly
[01:26] <oskude> yrth, then join me in
[01:26] <yrth> oskude
[01:26] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh that is no problem to do
[01:26] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, I am unsure if I require the ubuntu-xen-desktop/ubuntu-xen-server in my situation
[01:26] <oskude> yrth, then join me in #fixthatati
[01:26] <yrth> oskude, I can't it says it's blocked, and shows me that message every time I sent something to you in pm
[01:27] <yrth> hold on oskude
[01:27] <oskude> yrth, do: /j #fixthatati (here in xchat)
[01:27] <jdt> hi, what is the channel for kubuntu support?
[01:27] <oskude> jdt, #kubuntu
[01:27] <flami> jdt #kubuntu
[01:27] <jdt> oskude, flami, thankyou
[01:28] <FarrisG> How much shit would I be in if I installed a feisty kernel on a dapper server?
[01:28] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh it really doesn't matter, if you check the files that depend on ubuntu-xen-desktop/ubuntu-xen-server on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <sn0> you will see that the desktop version comes with xenman , whilst the server does not (servers dont need gui generally)
[01:28] <flami> FarrisG,  why would you do that ?
[01:28] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, okay, perfect
[01:28] <UnNaturalHigh> sn0, thanks for helping me clear that up :)
[01:28] <persica> FarrisG: depends on what you use from it, but probably not too much.  If you just need a specific package I would recommend recompiling it in.
[01:28] <pyrak> how do you fix unresolved dependencies in synaptic?
[01:30] <cotyrothery> can someone help me i forgot the name of a programe but what it does is install programes like skype and other things i forgot though it starts with A
[01:30] <CyberScript32> please,i want to change mac adress of my network card in ubuntu 7.04,help-me...
[01:30] <cotyrothery> i think athmatrix2
[01:30] <cotyrothery> or something
[01:30] <persica> CyberScript32: Check out the ifconfig man page.
[01:30] <blue42> Automatix?
[01:30] <cotyrothery> thats it
[01:30] <sn0> UnNaturalHigh your welcome :)
[01:30] <cotyrothery> thanks
[01:31] <CyberScript32> persica thank you.:)
[01:31] <DirigibleMan> my mic isn't working in feisty, ICH4 card, anybody that can help me?
[01:31] <tck> pyrak, apt-get -f install
[01:31] <persica> CyberScript32: You're looking for the 'hw' option, followed by 'ether'.
[01:31] <PIPBoy_> hi all
[01:31] <persica> CyberScript32: (the class being 'ether' that is)
[01:31] <CyberScript32> persica i have a other question,how to config wirelesse conection without wep encription?
[01:33] <CyberScript32> i have other question,how to config wirelesse conection without wep encription?
[01:33] <pyrak> tck, can you please elaborate?
[01:33] <persica> CyberScript32: Without WEP?  Isn't WEP an additional option you just leave off?  I've never used wireless with Ubuntu.
[01:34] <persica> CyberScript32: I've traditionally configured it with iwconfig (the wireless version of ifconfig).
[01:34] <xenex> what's the ideal options for vncviewer? vncviewer -depth 32 what else?
[01:34] <CyberScript32> persica yes,without wep,my connection is not require encryption key
[01:35] <persica> xenex: depends on your connection and desired quality.
[01:35] <nickrud> oskude, yrth do you mind if I eavesdrop on this ati problem?
[01:35] <PIPBoy_> im out
[01:35] <PIPBoy_> bye
[01:35] <oskude> nickrud, sure
[01:35] <xenex> persica, well the display is ugly but vnc doesn't work.
[01:35] <persica> xenex: and you can't get a better image than the server is displaying.
[01:35] <xenex> persica, i'll connect and get the first image but it wont update when i click stuff
[01:35] <LjL> pyrak: type  lsb_release -a  in a console (for the version number)
[01:36] <LjL> pyrak: as for the broken dependencies, it depends on what's broken i suppose. i'd rather see output from apt-get though, as i'm not familiar with synaptic
[01:36] <SerCanii> hi, how can I learn my cpu's fan speed
[01:36] <persica> CyberScript32: I think the default is not to use WEP.  Are you having trouble figuring out how to do it withot WEP, or do you just not know where to start?
[01:36] <LjL> !info lm-sensors > SerCanii
[01:37] <pyrak> LjL, thanks for the tip for the version number
[01:37] <bobsomebody> Question: I have my desktop workspaces set up just the way I want for my home office / development PC, how can I save this session to load automatically?
[01:37] <SerCanii> LjL: thnx
[01:37] <bobsomebody> I have 4 workspaces being used too
[01:37] <persica> xenex: it should update pretty well with the default settings.  Your issue sounds odd.
[01:37] <CyberScript32> [persica] : i obtain wireless signal,but my connection does'not work...
[01:38] <xenex> persica, www.xenex.mserle.com/files/Screenshot-andrewvnc.png
[01:38] <ebirtaid> bob what are you using? gnome?
[01:38] <bobsomebody> ya
[01:38] <xenex> persica, i'm thinking its our firewalls? receiving 1 packet and then blocking?
[01:38] <santims> can someone help me un-rar some files please?
[01:38] <bobsomebody> kinda new to linux, but 20 years on DOS/WIN
[01:38] <vbabiy> does any know where I can find a archive of his irc room
[01:38] <ebirtaid> what aspects are you trying to save?
[01:38] <persica> xenex: I doubt it.  That does look kinda funky.
[01:39] <CyberScript32> [persica] : i configure ip,mask,gateway and dns,but the connection doesn't working
[01:39] <bobsomebody> the exact session
[01:39] <CoFFeY> hey =D
[01:39] <xenex> persica, any ideas?
[01:39] <persica> xenex: sorry, nope.
[01:39] <nickrud> bobsomebody, you can use system-prefs-sessions to start the apps; but that won't put the stuff on separate desktops; for that you need devilspie
[01:39] <nickrud> !devilspie | bobsomebody
[01:39] <ubotu> bobsomebody: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[01:39] <ebirtaid> oh for all your programs and everything to be started in the exact places every time you logon, you would need deilspie
[01:39] <ebirtaid> devilspie
[01:39] <ebirtaid> yea what they said ;p
[01:39] <bobsomebody> awesome
[01:40] <CoFFeY> can someone help me setting up my wireless internet on my compaq, i bought from a friend and he said it automatically worked but i cant connect to my wireless network
[01:40] <CoFFeY> its a laptop so its got a built in card
[01:41] <ebirtaid> what is the wireless card model?
[01:41] <bobsomebody> :)
[01:41] <CoFFeY> eh not really sure?
[01:41] <CoFFeY> its built in
[01:41] <ebirtaid> good luck
[01:41] <ebirtaid> whats the model of the laptop
[01:41] <kdiggdy> how do you install the a cgwdtheme?
[01:41] <CoFFeY> v5000
[01:42] <CoFFeY> presario
[01:42] <santims> can someone help me un-rar some files please?  i am trying to use 7-zip but am basically clueless on how to use it exactly
[01:42] <LjL> !rar > santims    (santims, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:42] <LjL> !logs > vbabiy    (vbabiy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:42] <Cooner750> I return with another problem
[01:42] <Cooner750> This time, Beryl
[01:42] <CyberScript32> [persica] : i continue to trying,thanks for help.:)
[01:42] <kdiggdy> crdlb hey
[01:43] <Cooner750> lolwut
[01:43] <santims> thank you
[01:43] <ebirtaid> coffey: try downloading wicd and see if it works; it got my wireless working
[01:43] <ebirtaid> I have the same chipset as you
[01:44] <Cooner750> Anyway, I have installed Beryl itself and Beryl Manager. It tells me this when run from the terminal http://pastebin.ca/582434
[01:45] <santims> how does one "right-click" when using an apple one button mouse and keyboard?
[01:45] <Marztty> #nethack
[01:45] <santims> i have not needed to right click in like 6 years
[01:45] <cetanhota> ctrl+click
[01:46] <jdt> santims: Its <Cntl> Click
[01:46] <santims> jdt and cetanhota cntl click doesnt do anything, no menu no nothing
[01:46] <persica> wait, you people use mice?  But this is linux!
[01:46] <ebirtaid> santims the apple button?
[01:47] <ebirtaid> its a combo of one of those keys
[01:47] <santims> i've tried every combination of apple control alt/option and shift i can think of
[01:47] <ebirtaid> hmmmmm
[01:47] <cetanhota> maybe apple button. I have not used ubuntu on my mac yet.
[01:48] <persica> I think you will have to specifically map it.
[01:48] <cetanhota> check the mouse pref, and see if you can turn it on there
[01:48] <Driven10> hey, is there anyway to further customize the way windows appear in the file browser (IMO it's annoying to read with the icon/list settings)
[01:48] <persica> A common one is to map an F-key to right-mouse-click.
[01:49] <jdt> santims. I suppose it depends on what you are clicking on. Your using Ubuntu on a mac right?
[01:50] <santims> jdt lol no, im using ubuntu on a c2d rig folding rig....sold the macs until the new year but still have my keyboard/mouse
[01:50] <gdiebel> Driven10: nautilus is by design a very simple file manager. If you desire a more configurable, imho much more powerful file manager try kde konqueror or krusader
[01:51] <Driven10> gdiebel: overall it's fine I just don't like the alternating background etc
[01:51] <Driven10> or is it possible to have no icons in list view
[01:52] <persica> santims: you might want to look at mouseemu to emulate button clicks.
[01:52] <jdt> Santims: Have no idea if this will work, but having just read a forum article - try F11 click or F12 click???
[01:53] <neozen> hoallo all
[01:53] <neozen> having a problem with my cd burner in feisty
[01:53] <TheCreationist> neozen: Is it showing up at all?
[01:53] <neozen> aye
[01:53] <neozen> that it is
[01:53] <chadeldridge> I am having some issues with WOW on Wine ... is there a channel i should go to or does anyone here want to take a stab at it ?
[01:53] <jdt> santims: never mind - it doesnt work
[01:53] <santims> f11 and f12 doesnt work
[01:53] <polyneux> I have a binary that reads a .cfg to host a dedicated server. And when it starts it says g_needpass: is read only. Do I have to change the permission or whatever through OS or through the software
[01:53] <persica> jdt: I think that's done through the mouseemu daemon.
[01:54] <santims> ill check out that mouseemu thing
[01:54] <persica> santims: install the package mouseemu
[01:54] <neozen> model number is GMA-4082N Removable CD-ROM
[01:54] <jdt> Yeah, to be honest I have no idea how to get a one button mouse to right click - I prob should stop participating in this discussion :)
[01:54] <santims> persica thorugh add/remove?
[01:54] <persica> santims: yeah.  I think that will do what you want.
[01:54] <neozen> and burning worked absolutely flawlessly in dapper
[01:55] <NickGarvey> could someone give me a link to the server install cd for 64 bit
[01:55] <NickGarvey> I destroyed my webbrowser
[01:55] <NickGarvey> and links isn't working real well
[01:56] <moustafa> I have a big problem . please help me
[01:56] <neozen> on this very same hardware
[01:56] <santims> i cant seem to find mouseemu
[01:56] <neozen> ............
[01:56] <neozen> santims ... try holding cntrl or alt when clicking
[01:56] <ebirtaid> neozen: what is broken about it?
[01:57] <moustafa> I installed java 5 , when I open chat application ,and want to close private conversation window it's con't closed
[01:57] <moustafa> I have a big problem . please help me
[01:57] <neozen> ebirtaid: won't burn
[01:57] <santims> neozen i tried just about all of my different keys, its a no go
[01:57] <neozen> ...operation keeps failing
[01:57] <ebirtaid> what program
[01:57] <neozen> santims: bummer
[01:57] <neozen> ebirtaid: graveman
[01:57] <ebirtaid> have you tried another to make sure its not a software issue?
[01:57] <neozen> ebirtaid: which worked just fine in 6.06.1
[01:58] <neozen> ebirtaid: I'd use just plain old cdrecord if I knew how
[01:58] <moustafa> I have a big problem . please help me
[01:58] <moustafa> I installed java 5 , when I open chat application ,and want to close private conversation window it's con't closed
[01:58] <ebirtaid> I mean there are lots of burning programs
[01:58] <ebirtaid> try gnomebaker
[01:58] <ebirtaid> and see if that works
[01:58] <neozen> ebirtaid: aye.... I just got so used to graveman
[01:58] <persica> santims: are you on a PowerPC Mac?
[01:58] <scoobydoo28139> Why do my apps disappear?
[01:58] <persica> santims: nevermind, I think you answered that you weren't already.
[01:59] <neozen> ebirtaid: I should probably also mention that this is xubuntu... and I'm loath to install gnomebaker or k3b because of all the libs that'd get pulled in along with
[01:59] <ebirtaid> hm
[01:59] <ebirtaid> try using xfburn
[01:59] <neozen> ebirtaid: I've also tried xfburn which comes with xubuntu
[01:59] <ebirtaid> oh
[01:59] <santims> persica:  yea im not even on a mac, just using the mac keyboard/mouse
[02:00] <santims> remapping the keyboard sounds good....but how does one do that?
[02:00] <ebirtaid> is it an iso or just data?
[02:00] <neozen> ebirtaid: I think they're all based off the same command-line programs ... and those are failing
[02:00] <neozen> ebirtaid: just data
[02:00] <scoobydoo28139> I boot into ubuntu and it is missing apps allot. Why?
[02:00] <ffm> What should I use if I want to provide VPN services? (Not SSH)
[02:00] <harlemtech> Need help with install beryl on ubuntu feisty
[02:00] <neozen> scoobydoo28139: what kind of apps are you looking for?
[02:00] <ffm> scoobydoo28139, What apps?
[02:00] <Bassetts> can I have more than one email on a gpg key, or do I have to creat a new key for the second email
[02:00] <neozen> harlemtech: try #ubuntu-effects
[02:00] <ebirtaid> not sure neozen you could look at the man pages for the command line client and try that way
[02:00] <TheCreationist> harlemtech: You are aware that Compiz is installed by default, right?
[02:01] <ffm> Bassetts, Each key is tied to a email.
[02:01] <scoobydoo28139> The apps disappear, like wine it is gone now .
[02:01] <harlemtech> neozen where do I get that
[02:01] <Bassetts> ffm, so I cannot have a key with more than one email?
[02:01] <harlemtech> okay got it
[02:01] <ebirtaid> harlemtech: join the channel
[02:01] <TheCreationist> scoobydoo28139: What did you change since they were there last?
[02:01] <neozen> harlemtech: the channel on this same server mate
[02:01] <tannerld> is it better to install ubuntu server and then install x, or install regular ubuntu and install the LAMP components?
[02:01] <moustafa> Can nobody help me?
[02:01] <moustafa> I installed java 5 , when I open chat application ,and want to close private conversation window it's con't closed
[02:01] <neozen> harlemtech: ok... good... you have fun w/ beryl now.... (that's the next thing I might poke at)
[02:01] <scoobydoo28139> Nothing , I just boot from windows to linux.
[02:01] <TaJMoX> How to I change the panel background to an image in XFCE ?
[02:02] <persica> santims: mouseemu can make various key-presses act like mouse clicks, e.g. hitting F12 is a right-mouse click on whatever your mouse is over.  I'm trying to get it working on my system so I can give you good directions.
[02:02] <scoobydoo28139> weard, and spooky huh
[02:02] <neozen> TaJMoX: I believe that changes depending on which theme you're using mon
[02:02] <malakhi> tannerld: Install the desktop and then LAMP
[02:02] <marfeath> moustafa: You need to give us more than "private conversation window"
[02:02] <santims> persica: thank you very much
[02:02] <tannerld> malakhi: ok, thanks :)
[02:02] <moustafa> in chat room
[02:02] <neozen> TaJMoX: xfce4-panel doesn't have a panel background configuration like gnome-panel
[02:02] <moustafa> when i talk with some one
[02:02] <moustafa> then i want to close this widow
[02:02] <moustafa> it can't close
[02:03] <neozen> TaJMoX: afaik
[02:03] <santims> i am busy learning how to do all the things i used to do in osx in ubuntu while ignoring my gf, so ill be around for a while
[02:03] <ebirtaid> neozen you are correct
[02:03] <neozen> santims: welcome to the fold
[02:03] <ffm> Bassetts, no, as you need to specify the email of the key's owner when you make the key. Actualy, you *can* use the key w/ multiple adresses, but if the key is registered to Alice@foobar.com and you sign an email sent by Bob@foobar.com with the Alice key, it will show up as being signed by Alice.
[02:03] <Driven10> so no way to simplify the display of file browser list view?
[02:03] <imbecile> how do i change rules for azureus in firestarter?
[02:04] <Bassetts> ffm, like sabdfl's pgpkey??
[02:04] <moustafa> in java applet window
[02:04] <ffm> What should I use if I want to provide VPN services? (Not SSH)
[02:04] <moustafa> when i talk with some one
[02:04] <moustafa> it can't close
[02:04] <neozen> ebirtaid: on?
[02:04] <ffm> Bassetts, ???
[02:04] <persica> santims: alright, you'll need to install the 'mouseemu' package.  You should be able to find it in synaptic or with 'apt-cache search mouseemu'
[02:04] <ebirtaid> panel
[02:04] <moustafa> I installed java 5 , when I open chat application ,and want to close private conversation window it's con't closed
[02:04] <moustafa> Can nobody help me?
[02:04] <moustafa> when i talk with some one
[02:04] <Bassetts> ffm, on launchpad I have seen people with keys with multiple emails on
[02:04] <persica> santims: once you find it, install it.
[02:04] <moustafa> in java applet window
[02:04] <PIPBoy_> hey, anyone here know of any good multiplayer games that work on ubuntu?
[02:04] <neozen> ffm: for what clients?
[02:04] <moustafa> it can't close
[02:05] <Bassetts> ffm, e.g. http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD54F0847&op=index
[02:05] <neozen> ebirtaid: ah
[02:05] <ffm> neozen, windows.
[02:05] <scoobydoo28139> ....
[02:05] <neozen> ffm: look into hamachi
[02:05] <Driven10> hamachi is nice :)
[02:05] <neozen> ffm: they might have a client/server thingy for linux
[02:05] <rockets> vmware + freedos = hardcore dos gaming
[02:05] <neozen> ffm: heard its the easies to setup
[02:06] <moustafa> in java applet window
[02:06] <moustafa> Can nobody help me?
[02:06] <ffm> Bassetts, Hmmm... no idea then.
[02:06] <Ygdrassil> q: any howto's on how to play dvd's in ubuntu 6.x ?.. I recall something about having to install some libraries but it's been a while.
[02:07] <neozen> moustafa: how's the ram on your box
[02:07] <moustafa> i want somebody understanding in ubuntu & java
[02:07] <m3thos> any network op here?
[02:07] <moustafa> What's ram?
[02:07] <neozen> moustafa: does it bog down often?
[02:07] <m3thos> ##c is having spam problems.. hundreds of bots
[02:07] <moustafa> no no
[02:07] <neozen> moustafa: go slow.... not respond quickly....
[02:07] <moustafa> all my problem
[02:07] <imbecile> how do i change rules for azureus in firestarter?
[02:07] <Mortuis> How do I tell what version of ubuntu is installed on a machine from the command line?
[02:07] <moustafa> i opened chat
[02:08] <moustafa> with java applet window
[02:08] <ebirtaid> mortius: lsb_release -a
[02:08] <Mortuis> thanks
[02:08] <moustafa> then i clicked on some user
[02:08] <neozen> imbecile: we heard you mate... don't think we have an answer for you yet... patience
[02:08] <moustafa> when i want to close this private
[02:08] <moustafa> it can't closed
[02:08] <neozen> moustafa: this is in what chat client
[02:08] <moustafa> gn4m.com
[02:09] <moustafa> www.gn4me.com
[02:09] <neozen> moustafa: never heard of
[02:09] <neozen> moustafa: is it alpha/beta software?
[02:09] <imbecile> neozen,  thought maybe the person with an answer missed it sorry
[02:09] <alaQ> imbecile: are you going to be using any non-standard ports with azureus?
[02:09] <imbecile> alaQ,  I dont suppose i need to
[02:09] <moustafa> it's di ji chat
[02:09] <neozen> moustafa: imbecile no worries... try turning on nickname recognition in your irc client
[02:10] <neozen> gah.. sorry about that moustafa that was for imbecile
[02:10] <moustafa> no problem
[02:10] <moustafa> i need your help pro
[02:10] <ffm> How do I revoke a pgp GPG key?
[02:10] <neozen> imbecile: has done wonders for letting me know when someone's trying to get my attention in chat
[02:10] <alaQ> imbecile: all right, open up firestarter, and go to the policy tab
[02:10] <moustafa> it's dj-chat
[02:11] <imbecile> neozen, ok done
[02:11] <moustafa> when i want to close this private
[02:11] <imbecile> alaQ,  ok done
[02:11] <moustafa> it can't closed
[02:11] <neozen> moustafa: ok...
[02:11] <moustafa> with java applet window
[02:11] <Ygdrassil> nm. got it
[02:11] <Ygdrassil> thx
[02:11] <moustafa> ok
[02:11] <neozen> moustafa: I'll poke at this chat and see if I can duplicate the problem on my setup
[02:11] <moustafa> right man
[02:11] <neozen> moustafa: a question... why not go w/ java6?
[02:12] <alaQ> under the middle dialog (it says "Allow Service" - right-click, and hit add rule
[02:12] <moustafa> i do that
[02:12] <neozen> moustafa: they fixed an awful lot of memory leaks with 6
[02:12] <moustafa> and also 1.4
[02:12] <moustafa> no changes
[02:12] <moustafa> same problem
[02:12] <UAnon> Question: Any idea why my webcam (EasyCam installed) shows up fine using Camorama, but using Firefox Flash it streams extremely "zoomed in"? Any suggestions?
[02:12] <neozen> moustafa: ::blinks:: ... so you know how to change which runtime you're using..... this is good
[02:13] <alaQ> imbecile: make sure that this is on the "inbound traffic policy" at the top, because we're worried about what's coming in.
[02:13] <moustafa> thank you
[02:13] <moustafa> this is my problem
[02:13] <moustafa> just it
[02:13] <cotyrothery> i just installed vmserver and i created a spot for windows but now i want to get rid of it but i dont know how
[02:13] <cotyrothery> its just taking up space
[02:14] <neozen> moustafa: um... this is not in a language I understand
[02:14] <moustafa> when i opend private chat , i cant close it until i logout
[02:14] <neozen> moustafa: I read only english.... sorry mon
[02:14] <moustafa> aha
[02:14] <moustafa> i will send you the link
[02:14] <neozen> moustafa: ok
[02:14] <moustafa> http://www.gn4me.com/gn4me/service/chat.jsp
[02:15] <imbecile> alaQ,  im not sure where the "allow service"dialog is
[02:15] <PIPBoy_> hey, anyone here know of any good multiplayer games that work on ubuntu?
[02:15] <PIPBoy_> pm me
[02:15] <neozen> LOL
[02:15] <cotyrothery> can someone tell me how to get rid of this windows vm
[02:15] <cotyrothery> its taking up like 8 gb
[02:15] <UAnon> Ok, simpler question: How can I cycle /dev/video0 ?
[02:15] <neozen> moustafa: well I just found out mozilla can't find MY java.... so I've got some futzing to do before I can help you
[02:16] <neozen> moustafa: please wait
[02:16] <moustafa> ok
[02:16] <neozen> moustafa: will take quite a while
[02:16] <moustafa> take your time
[02:16] <moustafa> i will wait you
[02:16] <neozen> moustafa: thankee
[02:16] <alaQ> imbecile: one sec.
[02:16] <moustafa> thank you man
[02:16] <neozen> moustafa: my pleasure
[02:16] <moustafa> me too
[02:16] <tgenpfaul> How can I tell X to stop generating 'instant' KeyPress/KeyRelease pairs for some of my keys?
[02:17] <neozen> moustafa: just one thing..... does this work in ANY other browser on some OTHER OS?
[02:17] <cotyrothery> Can someone please tell me how to delete the windows virtual machine i just created
[02:17] <moustafa> yes
[02:17] <neozen> moustafa: which?
[02:17] <moustafa> all it need java
[02:17] <UAnon> Question: Any idea why my webcam (EasyCam installed) shows up fine using Camorama, but using Firefox Flash it streams extremely "zoomed in"? Any suggestions?
[02:17] <moustafa> enternet explorer
[02:17] <moustafa> on windows
[02:17] <moustafa> but now i work on ubuntu 7.4
[02:18] <moustafa> with firefox
[02:18] <cotyrothery> I guess no one can help
[02:18] <TaJMoX> can someone give me an example on how to change the panel background by editing a gtk theme?
[02:18] <cotyrothery> i only have a 20 gb drive and now i have 8 gb taken up by nothing
[02:19] <ex0r> did u check the vm prog's help?
[02:19] <ex0r> doesnt seem like an OS problem but something with the actual virtual machine
[02:19] <Murdoch> Question I just upgraded Glib from 2.0 to 2.13.5 but when I ./configure gtk I'm getting an error that both Glib's are picked uo
[02:19] <Murdoch> *up
[02:19] <Murdoch> ???How can I fix that
[02:20] <huzz> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:20] <cotyrothery> I just want to know how to delete the windows partion i made
[02:20] <huzz> hi could someone tell me what i need to do to fix this ^
[02:20] <ex0r> ahhh partition
[02:20] <ex0r> use gparted
[02:20] <cotyrothery> it does not show up in gpart
[02:20] <alaQ> imbecile: ok, look at this screenshot - where it has my bittorrent policy listed, right-click and hit add rule. http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotfirestarterkyfr5.png
[02:20] <ebirtaid> huzz it shouldnt matter
[02:20] <cotyrothery> it is inside the ext3 partion
[02:20] <hhalvors> hi, could someone tell me how to get Ubuntu to read my ".xsession" or ".xinitrc" file when I'm logging in.  thanks.
[02:20] <huzz> ebirtaid, ya its all good?
[02:20] <ebirtaid> should be
[02:21] <ex0r> what vm prog u using?
[02:21] <ebirtaid> just missing a key
[02:21] <cotyrothery> VMSERVER
[02:21] <ebirtaid> no big deal
[02:21] <LCCUB> Not positive if this is an issue with VLC or panel settings in ubuntu but when I go to full screen my top panel stays on top, any way to stop this from happening?
[02:21] <huzz> ok cool, thanks.
[02:21] <ex0r> and its currently not running, correct?
[02:21] <cotyrothery> no i could not get it to install my windows recovery cd's
[02:22] <ex0r> do "ps x" and see
[02:22] <ex0r> in terminal
[02:22] <cotyrothery> Now i only have 4 gb left on my hd
[02:22] <cotyrothery> ok
[02:23] <cotyrothery> i just got a lot of stuff come up
[02:23] <ex0r> do u see vmserver there? All that came up there are the names of all processes currently running on your os
[02:24] <cotyrothery> i do see vmserver
[02:24] <ex0r> try killing it... "kill -9 PID"
[02:24] <UAnon> Question: Any idea why my webcam (EasyCam installed) shows up fine using Camorama, but using Firefox Flash it streams extremely "zoomed in"? Any suggestions?
[02:24] <ex0r> where PID is the number ont he left
[02:24] <cotyrothery> it did not work
[02:24] <ex0r> what did it say?
[02:25] <cotyrothery> i just exited out
[02:25] <JasonAllen> sup 'yall
[02:25] <ffm> I generated a SSH key using seahorse, how do I set it up so that I can auth via SSH w/ it?
[02:26] <emun> Hi, I need some help, I have a canon printer(no linux drivers) connected to a windows network through a print server, how can I print from ubuntu to this canon printer, ubuntu is connected to the router
[02:27] <LCCUB> Not positive if this is an issue with VLC or panel settings in ubuntu but when I go to full screen my top panel stays on top, any way to stop this from happening?
[02:27] <ex0r> it seems vmserver is locking a part of your HD for its use.  It should release this lock once it is closed.  Killing it should do the job.
[02:27] <cotyrothery> ex0r: i fixed the problem
[02:27] <ex0r> cool
[02:27] <Lam_> how do i invoke a clock sync?
[02:27] <ex0r> what was it? for future reference ....
[02:27] <cotyrothery> i just needed to empty my trash can after deleting it
[02:27] <ex0r> heh
[02:28] <cotyrothery> XD
[02:28] <ebirtaid> wow
[02:28] <cotyrothery> I want to try vm and actually get it to work
[02:28] <ex0r> try virtual box
[02:28] <cotyrothery> so i want to try running ubuntu in it first
[02:28] <cotyrothery> whats the diffrence
[02:29] <ex0r> one's free the other isn't :P
[02:29] <cotyrothery> is virtal box free
[02:29] <ex0r> yes
[02:29] <cotyrothery> so is vm server
[02:29] <ffm> cotyrothery, yes
[02:29] <ffm> cotyrothery, No, we mean free as in speech, not free as in beer.
[02:29] <ex0r> both are good, no? :)
[02:30] <cotyrothery> Well how do i use them
[02:30] <emun> help anybody , how to print from ubuntu to a print server
[02:30] <ffm> cotyrothery, IIRC, none of VMware's apps are FOSS
[02:30] <cotyrothery> ffm: i know
[02:30] <cotyrothery> i want to run ubuntu in vm
[02:31] <ffm> cotyrothery, in my experince, Virtual Box is better than VMware.
[02:31] <cotyrothery> ok so when i get it installed how will i creat the vm
[02:32] <nomasteryoda> cotyrothery, follow the directions... the virtualbox will walk you thru it
[02:32] <navets> i have a css question
[02:32] <navets> when I make my webpage browswer window smaller, how do I make my webpage scale down also?
[02:32] <cotyrothery> it says i need to restart now that i have it installed
[02:32] <cotyrothery> so see you in a few
[02:32] <ex0r> cotyrothery: http://www.virtualbox.org/download/UserManual.pdf
[02:33] <UAnon> Question: Any idea why my webcam (EasyCam installed) shows up fine using Camorama, but using Firefox Flash it streams extremely "zoomed in"? Any suggestions?
[02:33] <k-os> is PPPoE available in Ubuntu as a script?
[02:33] <UAnon> and a simpler question: How can I cycle /dev/video0 ?
[02:34] <nomasteryoda> UAnon, in firefox address bar ... about:config might help... search for "cam" ... just a guess
[02:34] <ex0r> k-os: u mean "pppoeconf" ?
[02:34] <c01100011> !beryl
[02:34] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <k-os> ex0r, yea?
[02:34] <ex0r> well that will set up a PPPoE connection fo ryou
[02:34] <k-os> it's called something else in my current distro, but ok, it must be the same?
[02:35] <UAnon> nomasteryoda: Nope, no results. Maybe its due to Flash?
[02:35] <k-os> nice, it's there from the installation? i do not need to install any other stuff to get it?
[02:35] <ex0r> should be...try searching for "PPPoE" in your help files
[02:35] <ex0r> yes its there
[02:35] <UAnon> nomasteryoda: I did try reinstalling flash, reinstalling ubuntu, even reinstalling the plugins
[02:35] <LCCUB> how can I gain access to save in /usr/share/vlc ?
[02:35] <LCCUB> (from opera)
[02:35] <nomasteryoda> you ask on a flash channel?
[02:35] <ex0r> i had not problem setting up my DSL with it
[02:35] <polyneux> So I have this binary that reads off a .cfg and when I attempt to run it it tells me a line in it is read-only, is that something I need to do to the .cfg or with the OS?
[02:36] <k-os> ex0r thank you
[02:36] <ex0r> yw
[02:36] <nomasteryoda> LCCUB, that would be sudo level access
[02:36] <k-os> can i ask you another thing which is not _so_ related to Ubuntu?
[02:36] <ex0r> try me, tho i'm far from being an expert
[02:36] <Chillyboarder> LMAO > http://www.hostico.net/affiliates//idevaffiliate.php?id=1039
[02:36] <UAnon> Question: Sometimes my webcam 'freezes', is there a console command to cycle 'dev/video0' ?
[02:36] <LCCUB> how do I give myself privs for saving from opera? sorry I've only ever used sudo for "sudo apt-get" etc from console
[02:37] <k-os> ex0r, do you know how i can install all the full ROX-filer dekstop in Ubuntu? the zeroinstaller is not working atm, so that wont help.
[02:37] <ex0r> unfortunately i do not, i have never used it
[02:37] <ex0r> sorry k-os :(
[02:38] <LCCUB> nomasteryoda:
[02:38] <LCCUB> ?
[02:40] <LCCUB> can anybody tell me how to save to /usr/share/vlc (from an opera download)
[02:40] <_Ahti> LCCUB: You make want to make that folder accessable to users
[02:41] <persica> LCCUB: The best route might be to download to somewhere in your home directory, then move it as the root user.
[02:41] <ffm> I generated a SSH key using seahorse, how do I set it up so that I can auth via SSH w/ it?
[02:41] <persica> LCCUB: e.g. download to ~/tmp, then go into a terminal and use 'sudo cp ~/tmp/file /usr/share/vlc/'
[02:41] <TheCreationist> Is there a way, when using Remote Desktop, to prevent the host computer from displaying the message saying another user is controlling your desktop?
[02:42] <TheCreationist> I'd like it to be completely transparent.
[02:42] <LCCUB> persica: thanks I'll try that
[02:42] <persica> ffm: I'ms orry, what's seahorse?  Did it put an id_dsa or id_rsa in ~/.ssh?
[02:42] <LCCUB> <--- n00b with privs
[02:42] <persica> seahorse seems to be a GPG front end, not an ssh-keygen front-end.
[02:42] <cafuego> ffm: it will have generated 2 files in ~/.ssh
[02:43] <cafuego> ffm: if you append the content of the .pub file to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host, you'll be able to log in using key auth.
[02:43] <persica> LCCUB: Be careful with doing things in /usr.  /usr contains a lot of system files and you could break something if you mess up in there.  That's one reason you have to deliberately do things there as root, so you are less likely to accidentally do something and so malicious people can't mess up the whole system.
[02:44] <LCCUB> mmkay, well I just tried so hopefully I did it right ;)
[02:44] <_Ahti> persica: Lol, "malicious people" :P
[02:44] <dbbolton> is it possible to make a program run in the terminal at startup?
[02:45] <persica> _Ahti: what's so funny?  His ex-girlfriend could be a leet hacker or something.
[02:45] <_Ahti> persica: That you usually speak of malicious code... you said malicious people.. :P
[02:46] <persica> _Ahti: malicious people make malicious code, or use perfectly good code for malicious purposes.  "rm -rf /" does not make rm malicious. :)
[02:46] <ffm> persica, it is a key maagerment program
[02:47] <daquino> why cant i start up a x session via xinit ?
[02:47] <persica> ffm: I'm seeing that now.  I didn't realize you could use regular RSA/DSA keypairs for GPG signing.  I've always used ssh-keygen to create my SSH keypairs.
[02:47] <_Ahti> persica: Hmm wonder if "rm -rf /" Would work?????
[02:47] <persica> _Ahti: try it as root and report back.
[02:47] <_Ahti> persica: Hehe...
[02:47] <ffm> _Ahti, Try it out! (No, please don't)
[02:47] <LjL> PLEASE
[02:47] <LjL> don't give such commands
[02:48] <neozen> ebirtaid: well... now I know a h*ll of a lot more about command-line burning with wodim
[02:48] <neozen> ebirtaid: funny thing is... I don't think dapper used cdrecord as an alias for wodim
[02:48] <_Ahti> ffm: I'm not that... stupid :P
[02:48] <ffm> persica, cafuego, It outputs as a asc, not a pub
[02:49] <pinguim_power> Hackers ?! most of the hacks are made whith a person turn in to something humiliatin like trait someone
[02:49] <persica> ffm: for an ssh key you might want to try the following: ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1028 -f .ssh/id_dsa
[02:49] <daquino> please wtf...
[02:49] <daquino> why cant i start another x session
[02:50] <neozen> ebirtaid: and..... burning works just fine from the command-line
[02:50] <dbbolton> is it possible to make a program run in the terminal at startup?
[02:50] <neozen> ebirtaid: using wodim.....
[02:50] <_Ahti> I KNOW, i'm going to install Ubuntu on VMWare and try out "rm -rf /" :P :P :P
[02:50] <neozen> ebirtaid: wonder what's so different about the graveman in feisty that would break things?
[02:50] <persica> ffm: That should generate an id_dsa and id_dsa.pub in .ssh.  You then append the id_dsa.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host (create it if it doesn't exist) and then SSh will check for id_dsa and use it for logging in if it exists.
[02:50] <persica> ffm: if you run ssh with the -i option you can specify a key with a non-default name.
[02:51] <ffm> !language daquino
[02:51] <persica> ffm: if you give the key no password you can do password-less logins.  Otherwise you can look into using ssh-agent and ssh-add.
[02:51] <ffm> !language | daquino
[02:51] <ubotu> daquino: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:51] <daquino> yea well im patient but this is like the fifth day in a row i come in and watch my question fly up the buffer with no one listening...
[02:52] <daquino> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[02:53] <persica> dbbolton: you can run something in a terminal at startup by prefixing the command with the name of your terminal program in your startup items.
[02:53] <cotyrothery> for some reason it wont let me install windows in vm
[02:53] <persica> dbbolton: for example, if you want to run irrsi in a xterm you'd run 'xterm irssi'
[02:53] <cotyrothery> it says that the recovery cd i have does not support the hp i have
[02:54] <ffm> persica, Isnt having no passwords on your key insecure?
[02:54] <ffm> persica, you mean ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -f .ssh/id_dsa
[02:54] <PIPBoy_> hi all
[02:54] <ffm> Have I been disconnected from IRC?
[02:54] <ffm> nevermind.
 persica, Isnt having no passwords on your key insecure?
 persica, you mean ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -f .ssh/id_dsa
[02:54] <cotyrothery> how cool im running ubunt inside ubuntu
[02:54] <sarixe> waste
[02:54] <Firebird8> Hello, I installed a commandline server version of ubuntu on to a single core computer, when I ssh to the computer it says the kernel is a SMP, is this normal?
[02:54] <cotyrothery> i want to run windows
[02:54] <neozen> !graveman
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graveman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <ffm> cotyrothery, Then you are in the wrong place. Try ##windows .
[02:55] <imbecile> can anyone recommend any books or websites to learn to use command line?
[02:55] <cotyrothery> no inside vm
[02:55] <cotyrothery> im not going to switch to windows i just want to try it in vm
[02:55] <NeoGeo64> HELLO is it possible to run DX10 oN Linux
[02:55] <persica> ffm: having no key is more insecure because anyone that can read that file can log in as you.  However, it is often used to do unattended rsyncs and the like.
[02:56] <alaQ> Firebird8: The kernel is built with SMP support.  If you only have one kernel, it just won't use it.  There's no problem.
[02:56] <neozen> imbecile: starting at the beginning... ie... very basics?
[02:56] <neozen> imbecile: for terminal?
[02:56] <persica> ffm: often when you use a passwordless key you will limit what it can do on the other side to whatever is essential.
[02:56] <neozen> imbecile: yeah... I've got something that starts @ the basics
[02:56] <Firebird8> alright, thanks alaQ
[02:56] <imbecile> neozen,  yeah
[02:56] <persica> ffm: and yeah, I meant 1024
[02:56] <neozen> imbecile: I'll dig it up... wait 2 min
[02:56] <imbecile> neozen,  tyvm
[02:56] <ffm> persica, Also, if I disable my password, how do I login on the console session?
[02:56] <superkirbyartist> Anyone familiar with dual-booting Mac OS 9 and Ubuntu?
[02:56] <saint-takeshi> is there anything on the xubuntu disk or something i could apt-get to add support for LVM (just want to destroy the current LVM partition table so i can reformat) ??
[02:57] <imbecile> who was it that helped me with firestarter??
[02:57] <persica> ffm: disable your password?
[02:57] <alaQ> imbecile: that would be me.  Find everything all right?
[02:57] <sn0> superkirbyartist the ubuntu wiki has information if you search for dual boot
[02:57] <Flannel> saint-takeshi: gparted (or any partitioner) can destroy it.  Also, all the LiveCDs have LVM support, even if only the alternate ones can install to LVM
[02:57] <imbecile> yeessssss alaq i came back to say thank you
[02:57] <alaQ> imbecile: glad to help :)
[02:57] <persica> ffm: are you thinking of disabling your password to prevent non-publickey logins?
[02:58] <imbecile> alaQ,  it was much easier than i thought it would be
[02:58] <slestak> how do i disable a service from starting at boot?  i dont want to uninstall it, just disable it while i debug some stuff?
[02:58] <Flannel> !bum | slestak
[02:58] <ubotu> slestak: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:58] <neozen> wow... over the past 3 months I've created 16+ MBs of text-based IM logs....... guess that's what I get for helping people w/ coding hw through gaim
[02:58] <slestak> ty Flannel
[02:59] <alaQ> imbecile: I would recommend, then, taking a look at what really happens when you use firestarter.  It writes rules to the iptables routing system.  Take a look at that for some good reading. :)
[02:59] <UAnon> Question: Sometimes my webcam 'freezes', is there a console command to cycle 'dev/video0' ?
[02:59] <daquino> neozen: yea you can help me figure out what is wrong with
[02:59] <daquino> x
[02:59] <fxfitz> Hey is anyone here familiar with MythWeb?
[02:59] <Delmar> hey everyone.  I have installed vmware-server on two Feisty systems, and in both cases the windows vmware machine can ping the network and access all resources fine..... but neither can access the local resources on the vmware host.  I can ping the host's IP from the virtual machine, but nothing else works... not even ftp or ssh :(  Any ideas?
[03:00] <Delmar> This is the vmware-server package via Automatix2 btw.
[03:00] <daquino> Delmar:  where did you get a key ?
[03:00] <Delmar> daquino, the vmware site.
[03:01] <Delmar> daquino, from here /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[03:01] <UAnon> How can I kill a process that doesn't want to die using 'kill <PID NUMBER>' or 'killall firefox-bin'
[03:01] <Delmar> hrm. silly cut and paste.
[03:01] <Delmar> http://register.vmware.com/content/registration.html
[03:01] <Delmar> there
[03:01] <daquino> Delmar:  you could of just told me to identify my self why dont you just paste here
[03:01] <neozen> imbecile: www.linuxcommand.org
[03:01] <neozen> imbecile: how I forgot that.... I'll never know
[03:02] <Delmar> daquino, hehe. no i had that command in buffer and it didnt copy the url link.
[03:02] <UAnon> Question: How can I kill a process that doesn't want to die using 'kill <PID NUMBER>' or 'killall firefox-bin'?
[03:02] <Delmar> i have odd cut/paste issues frequently actually.. drives me insane.
[03:02] <daquino> UAnon:  pass it -9
[03:02] <LjL> UAnon: kill -s 9 PID
[03:02] <UAnon> thx
[03:02] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, what does the -s do?
[03:02] <Delmar> daquino, anyway... i doubt this is a license key issue... is it?
[03:03] <daquino> no i was just wondering
[03:03] <UAnon> Thanks it worked, sort of froze my system for a few seconds but then killed it :)
[03:03] <daquino> they shoudl each have diff ip's though
[03:03] <LjL> Music_Shuffle: just specifies that a signal name/number follows
[03:03] <Delmar> daquino, the vmware host, and vmware guest OS have their own IP's on the same subnet yes.
[03:03] <Music_Shuffle> Ah ok
[03:04] <Delmar> daquino, the thing is, I tried an old copy of GSX server on one of these systems... and it does not have this issue...
[03:04] <imbecile> neozen,  lol thats funny tyvm
[03:04] <LjL> Music_Shuffle: the "classic" syntax is "kill -9 PID", but that's not... precisely... a standard command syntax
[03:04] <daquino> Delmar:  dont know sorry
[03:04] <neozen> imbecile: no problem
[03:04] <neozen> imbecile: my pleasure
[03:04] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, right, I had always used that version, which is why I was curious :P
[03:04] <UAnon> One more question please : How can I cycle '/dev/video0' ?
[03:05] <imbecile> i like how friendly and helpful everyone is here to a noob like me
[03:05] <alex-tb> noobs need love too
[03:05] <dylan_> is anyone here familiar with debian wireless who is willing to help me?
[03:05] <imbecile> other distros some people were rude and elitist
[03:05] <goochy> noobs need the most love ;)
[03:06] <black_13> how do i configure ubuntu for dhcp networking
[03:06] <imbecile> goochy,  for sure.. hehe
[03:06] <neozen> else you don't get NEW users for your distro... and the distro dies
[03:06] <Syrra> What would happen if a user's home suddenly disappeared?
[03:06] <neozen> Syrra: they'd call someone
[03:06] <Syrra> haha
[03:06] <kismet> do you need to remove wine to run cedegra?
[03:06] <neozen> Syrra: and scream
[03:06] <persica> black_13 if it isn't already set up, go into the /etc/network/interfaces file and find the line for your ethernet device.
[03:06] <bruenig> kismet, no
[03:07] <Syrra> no, what if I accedentally killed /home/username for instance?
[03:07] <persica> black_13 you'll want to change it (as root) to read something like: "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and remove the indented lines below it.
[03:07] <bruenig> Syrra, you likely would not be able to login as that user
[03:07] <persica> black_13 there's probably a GUI tool though.
[03:07] <Flannel> Syrra: You wouldn't be able to login until you recreated that directory.
[03:07] <bruenig> Syrra, you would need to go into single user mode or pop in the live cd and chroot over and remake it with useradd
[03:07] <black_13> persica no gui yet
[03:08] <Syrra> interesting
[03:08] <persica> black_13: if you're not using a GUI, then great, just edit /etc/network/interfaces as root with your favorite editor.
[03:08] <persica> Syrra: Actually you'll be able to log in, but it will default your home directory to /
[03:08] <neozen> imbecile: do you need an account on a box which you don't have root sudo-ability on?
[03:09] <wigfreitz> http://www.moognu.co.uk/snapshot3.png hi, things arent right with xgl, none of the web browsers display properly. I used this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl. trying to get beryl going/
[03:09] <black_13> persica, yeah the interfaces looks like that as we speak
[03:09] <persica> black_13: if it already has the dhcp on it, then it should already be set for dhcp.
[03:09] <black_13> persica, is the resolv.conf file cached somplace?
[03:09] <neozen> imbecile: helps to know you can't break anything
[03:09] <imbecile> neozen,  sure i do
[03:09] <maynards-girl> i'm having probelms trying to connect my phone to my computer using bitpim. does someone have a minute to help me out.  bitpim keeps freezing and will not close
[03:09] <black_13> i removed (backed it up) and restarted and low and behold it was back to original values
[03:10] <Syrra> okay, thanks
[03:10] <persica> black_13: you can make an interface dhcp by running 'dhclient eth#' as root, which will configure it via dhcp (though don't have two of those daemons running)
[03:10] <neozen> imbecile: all that I ask is that you behave.... and don't store too many files on it
[03:10] <persica> black_13: it shouldn't be.  Are you having trouble resolving your nameservers?
[03:10] <Ketzal> me voy a dormir buenas noches
[03:10] <black_13> yes
[03:10] <persica> black_13: the dhclient will generate resolv.conf based on what it gets from the dhcp server.
[03:10] <neozen> imbecile: as in... I haven't installed quota yet (am just getting started with server administration)
[03:11] <neozen> imbecile: so user quotas are on the honor system
[03:11] <imbecile> neozen,  i have plenty of hd space here
[03:11] <neozen> imbecile: same here.... server has only a 20gb drive
[03:11] <persica> black_13: dhclient is what gets run when an interface is set to dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:11] <neozen> imbecile: wanted something I could dump to a few dvds if something hit the fan
[03:12] <black_13> persica, is there a conf file for dhclient?
[03:12] <neozen> imbecile: like the fuzz showing up @ my door due to something a user stashed on my server and allowed the world to see
[03:12] <imbecile> neozen,  i have almost a tb
[03:12] <neozen> imbecile: lol
[03:12] <neozen> imbecile: I don't have need of that much space
[03:12] <neozen> imbecile: but I do alright
[03:12] <persica> black_13: not really.  It gets all it's info from the command line.
[03:12] <imbecile> neozen,  i like to backup my files ;P
[03:13] <neozen> imbecile: with a couple hundred gb
[03:13] <neozen> imbecile: /me nods
[03:13] <c01100011> is there a good backup utility, i want to save everything. Maybe i should just image the disk ?
[03:13] <cotyrothery> every time i try to run windows xp recovery cd's inside vm this is the error i get: These system recovery cd's dont support this hp system
[03:13] <cotyrothery> the recovery cds are for this computer i have
[03:13] <neozen> imbecile: when you back up... shit doesn't hit the fan..... or if it does... it rapidly graduates to no big deal
[03:13] <persica> black_13: you could try reconfiguring the dhcp, which might interrupt your connection but would refresh any info it should have.
[03:13] <compuniversal> some body know about Creative Zen vision M 30GB
[03:13] <black_13> persica, this is a vmware image
[03:13] <neozen> iso format works for dvds too right?
[03:14] <neozen> data dvds that is
[03:14] <black_13> so no loss on the connection really
[03:14] <persica> black_13: hrm, maybe the vmare dhcp server isn't running on your vmnet interface?
[03:14] <persica> black_13: er, dns server, not dhcp server.
[03:14] <persica> black_13: or maybe both. O_O
[03:14] <imbecile> neozen,  yeah i learned that from years with m$... i have all my media on a few externals... almost 500 gb of pron ;P
[03:14] <black_13> well im download the fedora core image it has more innards
[03:15] <CNTRLX> ubuntu on my hd0,0  , what is the partition for my usbdisk sda1 on boot?
[03:15] <_stress_> someone here knows java?
[03:15] <black_13> _stress_, me
[03:15] <black_13> sadly
[03:15] <black_13> use c# or c++
[03:15] <compuniversal> me to
[03:15] <black_13> and go to #java channel
[03:15] <CNTRLX> is it fd0,0
[03:15] <persica> use ruby!
[03:15] <CNTRLX> ?
[03:15] <neozen> CNTRLX: um... I'd guess sda1
[03:15] <aaroncampbell_> what will open a .7z file on kubuntu
[03:16] <neozen> CNTRLX: unless your harddrive is sata
[03:16] <_stress_> I went there...nobody talks...so I came here to ask you help
[03:16] <CNTRLX> but if i want to boot within grub menu list
[03:16] <_stress_> if any of you can help me
[03:16] <edwin> Hello, I'm having a problem with either my videcard or my monitors.... it runs fine for a few minutes and then says it goes out of frequency range making the monitor shut off and i have to hard reboot
[03:16] <CNTRLX> its scici
[03:16] <persica> black_13: you're saying you're running ubuntu in vmware on FC?
[03:16] <black_13> no i am going ot switch to fc
[03:16] <_stress_> can someone help me with java?
[03:16] <neozen> _stress_: yeah... this channel people answer..... but its also one of the busiest on this server
[03:16] <sunrises> hi all, anybody know where i can download xkbd configuration files?
[03:17] <_stress_> that's why I come here...many people...
[03:17] <black_13> persica, it will have more thing configured
[03:17] <_stress_> neozen can you help me?
[03:17] <CNTRLX> would it be fd0,0 because i put debian on it and trying to get ubuntu grub loader to load it in menu list.  i did not install a bootloader on debian install
[03:17] <black_13> i wanted to use ubuntu/debia i am more familer but eh
[03:17] <persica> black_13, well, good luck.  I've found ubuntu to be pretty much on par with FC, and I like debian/ubuntu more and am more familiar.
[03:18] <edwin> Anyone know why my screen asks to fix my resolution when i go higher then 1024x7**
[03:18] <compuniversal> _stress_ waht do u need?
[03:18] <black_13> persica, i am not as familer with yum as apt
[03:18] <persica> black_13 but I've had problems with vmware networking all the time. :(
[03:18] <radioaktivstorm> hello does anyone know how to reset settings in xfce?
[03:18] <Flannel> radioaktivstorm: which settings?
[03:18] <black_13> persica, its getting the kernel headers installed thats a bitch
[03:18] <persica> radioaktivstorm: try delting your .xfce* folders.
[03:18] <Flannel> radioaktivstorm: Just delete the config files from your homedir.
[03:19] <radioaktivstorm> ah, thanks :)
[03:19] <_stress_> I need to read data from the keyboard...in c we just use scanf....what about java...how can I do it? compuniversal
[03:19] <persica> black_13: for ubuntu?  it's easy.  I'm not sure I've done any custom compiling on FC.
[03:19] <neozen> _stress_: .....I might be able to help you
[03:19] <persica> black_13: at least not that require kernel headers.
[03:19] <neozen> _stress_: mind switching to PM?
[03:19] <radioaktivstorm> lesee if this works.
[03:20] <black_13> persica, for some reason when i install or try to install the vmware tools it complains about missing headers even after i install the things
[03:20] <compuniversal> _stress_  install java?
[03:20] <edwin_> that was so not cool...
[03:20] <persica> black_13: oh, hrm.  I'm not sure about that one.  Maybe it checks for /usr/src/linux which isn't sym-linked yet?
[03:20] <_stress_> yes I did
[03:20] <_stress_> j2sdk1.*
[03:20] <drama1981> ubuntu overwrote grub. now i cant access my fedora install. anybody can help?
[03:21] <black_13> persica, exactly
[03:21] <imbecile> now off to the task of finding out how to setup vmware
[03:21] <persica> drama1981: Check out ubuntuguide.org and look at the sections on the boot menu.
[03:21] <neozen> _stress_: look into Scanner
[03:21] <edwin_> Anyone know how to keep ubuntu from exceeding my monitor range it keeps crashing and i have to do a hard reset?
[03:21] <drama1981> ok ty
[03:22] <neozen> _stress_: Scanner class will probably seem most logical to you
[03:22] <neozen> _stress_: if you're used to using scanf
[03:22] <DisabledDuck> how can i get flash on a 64 bit system?
[03:22] <Jerry32> ver
[03:23] <_stress_> scanner...hum...
[03:23] <edwin_> Apparently my video card is the problem (Radeon 9200) is there somewhere I can get drivers, it seems xserver or something is crashing on me.
[03:23] <_stress_> I've tried it...but then I got erros
[03:23] <radioaktivstorm> hey everyone, doesnt look like resetting my xfce settings helped. the specific problem im dealing with is that i have four instances of nm-applet that open on startup
[03:23] <radioaktivstorm> any ideas?
[03:23] <anandanbu> Does anyone know how to restore the fonts back to original in ubuntu 7.04
[03:24] <alaQ> _stress_: import java.util.Scanner; Scanner in = new Scanner(System.in); in.next(); built into 1.5 java or higher.
[03:24] <persica> radioaktivstorm: you checked the autostart applications through the xfce control panel?
[03:24] <neozen> _stress_: well then... you need to read the documentation regarding the scanner class
[03:25] <neozen> _stress_: you know where the online java api docs are right?
[03:25] <radioaktivstorm> persica, i have....the only autostarted apps are the default ones
[03:25] <_stress_> dunno....
[03:25] <neozen> imbecile: are you in feisty?
[03:25] <neozen> _stress_: no wonder you're confused
[03:25] <imbecile> neozen,  yes
[03:25] <neozen> _stress_: just a sec
[03:26] <persica> radioaktivstorm: Hrm.  I used to know where xfce stored these things, but I have to go.
[03:26] <persica> good luck.
[03:26] <neozen> imbecile: sudo aptitude install vmware-player
[03:26] <persica> bye all.
[03:26] <neozen> imbecile: its in the repositories
[03:26] <_stress_> I have a question ... I import it ...ok...but then...do I need to have the its package ?
[03:26] <neozen> imbecile: greatest discovery about feisty EVER
[03:27] <Tomasu> I'm having an issue with my madwifi card, it mostly setsup correctly as an AP. but it wont actually start broadcasting till I manually set the channel. the ifup says its calling my wireless-channel or post-up commands, but once its setup, wilist channel says its on channel one (I set 10), and nothing can see my ap.
[03:27] <neozen> imbecile: and as for creating your own virtual machines for vmware .... www.easyvmx.org
[03:27] <_stress_> I just do two things in relation to java...read from keyboard and know what is necessary to import classes like you mentioned...
[03:27] <imbecile> neozen,  thats what i was looking for thanks
[03:27] <neozen> imbecile: gah.. make that www.easyvmx.org
[03:27] <neozen> *easyvmx.com
[03:28] <lufis> Anyone else having trouble with SANE putting lines in images scanned by HP scanners?
[03:28] <neozen> ......I must be getting sleepy
[03:28] <neozen> lufis: you're experimenting with scanners eh?
[03:28] <lufis> neozen: no... just want to scan some photos with my hp scanner :p
[03:28] <neozen> you're a braver man then I
[03:28] <imbecile> neozen,  got it
[03:28] <llol> hey any one here know of any tweak sites for ubuntu?
[03:29] <llol> speed and performance wise?
[03:29] <_stress_> neozen...and then?
[03:30] <neozen> _stress_: http://java.sun.com/javase/reference/api.jsp
[03:30] <DisabledDuck> is there a way to get flash to work in a 64 bit operating system?
[03:30] <lufis> But the problem is with SANE, I'm pretty sure. I took the scanner apart and thoroughly wiped down both sides of the glass... it's not a hardware artifact. SANE is for some reason showing up bright lines every few inches in every photo I try, which never happened on windows
[03:30] <neozen> _stress_: select the proper language and version of java
[03:30] <llol> the 32bit one should work no prob
[03:30] <imbecile> neozen, what do you recommend "easyvmx" or "super simple" for creating my first one?
[03:30] <lufis> And since SANE is pretty much the only scanner back-end, i'm screwed
[03:30] <DisabledDuck> llol it's not installing
[03:30] <neozen> _stress_: there you will find all documentation on ALL classes that come with java
[03:31] <neozen> imbecile: what are you looking to create?
[03:31] <neozen> imbecile: ie... what do you want to have in the box?
[03:31] <llol> PM me
[03:31] <neozen> imbecile: only certain options are in each
[03:31] <neozen> imbecile: expert, naturally, has everything
[03:31] <neozen> imbecile: but still leaves a tad to be desired
[03:31] <_stress_> ok...there I'll find info about 'em...but one question: do I need to have the package in the same directory I have my classes that use it?
[03:31] <imbecile> neozen,  cain and netstumbler
[03:32] <llol> get the flash file
[03:32] <JerseyMonkey> Question: I have a tv tuner in my pcmia slot, and I was recomended installing TvTime. It seems to detect the card at /dev/video0, but I cannot get it to play component cable.
[03:32] <llol> and manually enter it into the plugins folder
[03:32] <DisabledDuck> llol where is the plugins folder
[03:32] <llol> PM me
[03:32] <neozen> imbecile: I meant more along the lines of devices
[03:32] <neozen> imbecile: and as for netstumbler in a VM .... that's pointless
[03:32] <imbecile> neozen,  ahh im not really sure
[03:32] <llol> disabled
[03:32] <llol> send me a private message
[03:33] <Ravenndude`> When my machine boots, instead of seeing ubuntu with a loading bar below it, I just have a black screen. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[03:33] <imbecile> neozen,  ive been trying to setup kismet for a few days now and i really dont know where to start
[03:33] <neozen> imbecile: vmware only emulates wired nics
[03:33] <_stress_> neozen:ok...there I'll find info about 'em...but one question: do I need to have the package in the same directory I have my classes that use it?
[03:33] <neozen> imbecile: the vm will never see your wireless card
[03:33] <neozen> _stress_: packages.... suck
[03:34] <imbecile> neozen,  ahhh i figured that may be an issue
[03:34] <neozen> _stress_: even I still don't fully understand them
[03:34] <llol> u there disabledduck
[03:34] <JerseyMonkey> I have a tv tuner in my pcmia slot, and I was recomended installing TvTime. It seems to detect the card at /dev/video0, but I cannot get it to play component cable. How do I tell it to read the component cable, or is there another app I should be using?
[03:34] <ioioioioiiiio> i have a another hard drive, about to format it what disklabel should i use?
[03:34] <neozen> _stress_: packages usually have to be in their own directory (with the same name as the package) below the one that files which USE but aren't MEMBERS of the package
[03:35] <DisabledDuck> llol yeah... trying to figure out how to PM, lol
[03:35] <llol> find my name
[03:35] <neozen> anyone feel free to correct me about that up there.... kind of dashed it off
[03:35] <llol> double click it
[03:35] <neozen> but I think I got it right
[03:35] <imbecile> neozen,  so vmware would be pointless for arp cache poisoning as well huh?
[03:35] <_stress_> thanx...but so ...how does import work? where does the compiler looks for the class I'm importing?
[03:35] <neozen> imbecile: .................
[03:35] <neozen> imbecile: that's still pretty damn greek to me
[03:35] <neozen> <-------- NOT a network security major
[03:36] <llol> disabledduck
[03:36] <llol> no luck yet?
[03:36] <_stress_> neozen: thanx...but so ...how does import work? where does the compiler looks for the class I'm importing?
[03:36] <imbecile> neozen,  sorry man, my sister is netsec geek and into forensics for work these days.. I want to learn more about it
[03:37] <DisabledDuck> llol no
[03:37] <imbecile> she wont teach me :(
[03:37] <llol> u have AIM?
[03:37] <Mba7eth> hey guys how can i turn my box into a firewall ?  can any one give me a hint to start with
[03:37] <Mba7eth> ?
[03:37] <imbecile> she hates talking about computer stuff away from work
[03:38] <andrew2> Looking for help setting up LDAP.  I've been following tutorials to the tee and keep getting ldap_bind: Can't contact LDAP server (-1) when I query the userbase...stuck for a week now,  please help!
[03:38] <llol> disabledduck do u have an instant messenger
[03:38] <DisabledDuck> llol: i think i figured it out
[03:38] <nixnoob> why cant i watch video on abc.com?
[03:39] <DisabledDuck> llol: IM me on AIM at "Sieren Valentine"
[03:39] <neozen> _stress_: java looks for stuff in the classpath
[03:39] <neozen> _stress_: ton of documentation regarding classpath in every java tutorial in existance
[03:40] <neozen> _stress_: where others have explained basic concepts far better then I can
[03:40] <_stress_> ok neozen...thanx...I'll check it out then...
[03:40] <__mikem> Can someone help me. I can't get gdesklets to start automaticly when I start gnome
[03:40] <neozen> _stress_: no problem good luck in your search for knowledge
[03:41] <neozen> __mikem: try adding it to auto-started applications
[03:41] <Pelo> __mikem,  make a desktop launcher and move it to  /home/user/.config/autostart
[03:41] <neozen> __mikem: there we go
[03:41] <mozphat> Hi!  Im trying to install SYNCE and I get the following errot:  "configure: error: desktop integration requested but D-Bus could not be found"  D-Bus is installed and running.... ideas?
[03:41] <daquino> how do i create a deb ?
[03:41] <neozen> (me is still tied to his xubuntu)
[03:41] <monkey89> i need to build something with qt3 support, but the program isn't seeing the /usr/include/qt3 directory.  how do I add this to the include path?
[03:42] <_stress_> =D
[03:42] <Pelo> daquino,  there is an apt-get command for it   checkinstall I think , but not sure
[03:42] <neozen> daquino: do you want to make an actual deb... or just a fake one so apt recognizes that an app you've compiled and installed from source actually exists on your computer
[03:42] <daquino> checkinstall is broken for deb's
[03:42] <Pelo> daquino, forget what I said
[03:42] <neozen> monkey89: -I= flag I think
[03:43] <Pelo> daquino,  do you mean make a deb or install a deb ?
[03:43] <daquino> neozen:  i want it to track my make install and make a deb
[03:43] <monkey89> neozen: its a complicated make, and I'd have to add it manually into the makefile.  there has to be an easier way
[03:43] <monkey89> (./configure, make, make install)
[03:43] <neozen> monkey89: I think you put the path after the equal sign
[03:44] <__mikem> Okay, putting a launcher in a .autostart folder did nothing
[03:44] <neozen> monkey89: also be sure the proper (dev) version of the library has been properly installed on your computer with apt
[03:44] <daquino> Pelo:  i want to make a deb from a source i have
[03:44] <__mikem> pelo, your autostart suggestion didn't work
[03:44] <neozen> monkey89: ie.... libqt3-dev or some such beast
[03:44] <monkey89> neozen: it has.  i got it compiled and working by removing /usr/local/include (which is in the path) and linking it to /usr/include/qt3.  but thats clunky
[03:45] <neozen> O.o clunky!
[03:45] <AlexGC> good evening gentlemen
[03:46] <neozen> I just had to create a sym-link to another sym-link in order to get audacity to see libmp3lame.so.0.0 as libmp3lame.so
[03:46] <AlexGC> Excuseme, is there a channel for ubuntu on PowerPCs/Macs? or this is general ubuntu?
[03:46] <yrth> nite nite
[03:46] <neozen> .....the other day...
[03:46] <bruenig> daquino, just package it conventionally
[03:46] <__mikem> pelo, okay, again, Your suggestion did not work!
[03:46] <daquino> bruenig:  wtf does that mean ?
[03:46] <bruenig> daquino, do you think that the debs in the repos are made with checkinstall?
[03:46] <nixnoob> is there anything i can get in the way of shockwave?
[03:46] <daquino> bruenig:  how do i make it conventionally ?
[03:46] <neozen> __mikem: ok... I think Pelo's busy right now... I'll see what I can do about your issue
[03:47] <__mikem> thanks
[03:47] <__mikem> basicly, when I try to use the session manager to launch it automaticly, the program crashes, but when I run it manually it works fine
[03:47] <Pelo> __mikem, shoudl have worked,  I know there are issues with the new  "restore session" thingy ,  the  ~/.config/autostart thing only works on reboot btw, not on xrestart as I far as I know
[03:47] <AlexGC> Excuseme, is there a channel for ubuntu on PowerPCs/Macs? or this is general ubuntu?
[03:47] <lasking> i have a basic system how to install X and gnome? apt-get what?
[03:47] <bruenig> daquino, make install it in to a destdir (make install DESTDIR=/path/to/some/empty/directory) and then add a debian directory in there and create a control file (see apt-cache show firefox or any other application for what that looks like) then use dpkg -b to build it
[03:48] <__mikem> okay, let me try this again
[03:48] <__mikem> brb
[03:48] <lasking> e
[03:48] <neozen> __mikem: scope this thread out... looks like it handles your problem perfectly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475513&highlight=gdesklets
[03:48] <daquino> bruenig:  ok
[03:49] <daquino> anyone know the dpkg command to configure which display manager i want to use ?
[03:49] <TylerIsACow> i have a problem with firefox where if i leave it unattended for a while and i come back my flash plugin doesn't work anymore. it fixes if i completely close firefox and open it again. I am on Fiesty 7.04 64 bit with flash player 9 using the nswrapper
[03:49] <LCCUB> is there a gui app to look at start up apps?
[03:49] <bruenig> you can probably just dpkg-reconfigure which ever one you want
[03:49] <Pelo> daquino, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <LCCUB> or method
[03:49] <noiesmo> daquino: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/xdm/gdm
[03:49] <Flannel> LCCUB: which startup?  login or actual bootup?
[03:49] <neozen> LCCUB: define startup apps
[03:49] <__mikem> Pelo, the problem is, every time it is executed automatricly, it crashes, but when I run it by hand, it works fine. And at this point this thing is starting to piss me off
[03:50] <neozen> hey flannel! long time no see
[03:50] <imbecile> how do i extract files to filesystem?
[03:50] <lasking> install what? crying...
[03:50] <Pelo> __mikem,  what command are you using ?
[03:50] <bruenig> imbecile, depends on what the filetype is, if it is a tarball, tar xf whatever
[03:50] <LCCUB> well for example totem was running and I didn't start it
[03:50] <simtower> is there a thing on ubuntu where you type in tv shows you like and it will recommend ones to you??
[03:50] <__mikem> gdesklets start
[03:50] <LCCUB> so I'm guessing it was set to run at start
[03:50] <Flannel> !startup | LCCUB
[03:50] <ubotu> LCCUB: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[03:50] <imbecile> bruenig,  its actually a folder for a vm
[03:50] <bruenig> simtower, that would be webbased I am sure, does such a thing exist on any OS?
[03:50] <Flannel> LCCUB: those would be session startup things, not actual startup, but on login.
[03:50] <LCCUB> thanks Flannel
[03:50] <Flannel> neozen: Howdy howdy.
[03:51] <simtower> bruenig where can i find the web base??
[03:51] <greg_g> Question: in Software Sources (from System -> Admin) some of the repos are not checked, have a minus, or have a check.  I understand checked and not checked, but what does the minus means?
[03:51] <linuxor> HI, I'm looking for SAP on linux -it's a civil engineering software-??
[03:51] <bruenig> simtower, I am saying that if such a thing exists, it would only make sense that it would be a website sort of like last.fm not a stand alone app
[03:51] <noren17> Does anyone have experience mounting flash media with corrupted partition tables?
[03:51] <greg_g> Pelo, to cover up gun shots? ;)
[03:51] <simtower> bruenig, thanks im going to last.fm.com now
[03:51] <imbecile> how do i extract a folder with a vm in it  to filesystem?
[03:51] <Pelo> greg_g, no, we're use to those we don'T pay attention anymore
[03:52] <Pelo>  brb
[03:52] <greg_g> Pelo, in my old neighborhood that is how it was too
[03:52] <bruenig> simtower, last.fm not last.fm.com but that is a music site where it gives you related artists, not a tv show
[03:52] <neozen> __mikem: ask yourself what the state of the machine is when you are starting it manually
[03:52] <imbecile> bruenig,  oh now i know what you mean.. it is a zip
[03:52] <bruenig> imbecile, unzip whatever
[03:53] <imbecile> and?
[03:53] <neozen> imbecile: aye... unzip will handle zips on ubuntu ... commandline that is
[03:53] <simtower> bruenig: oh ok, what is the site for tv show? last.tv??
[03:53] <bruenig> imbecile, it should be extracted
[03:53] <LCCUB> !boot
[03:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:53] <neozen> imbecile: for gui-type-stuff .. try file-roller.... that'd work just right
[03:53] <doms> bash: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
[03:53] <bruenig> simtower, I don't know if any site exists, but if it does exist, it will be a website not a stand alone app, so look on the interwebs not for stand alone apps
[03:53] <simtower> ok bruenig
[03:54] <bruenig> doms, ?
[03:54] <imbecile> neozen,  i have fileroller open with the folder in it.. i just cant get the folder saved in filesystem
[03:54] <Flannel> doms: What are you trying to do?
[03:54] <bruenig> doms, I think ubuntu is /etc/init.d not /etc/rc.d
[03:54] <nivekc1> anyone know how i can change the main menu image?
[03:54] <doms> i cant  run php in my firefox browser
[03:54] <neozen> doms: you trying to restart your http server in ubuntu?
[03:54] <Pelo> nivekc1, you mean the boot menu ?
[03:54] <Flannel> doms: and it's apache2 (well, assuming you installed apache2), not httpd (/etc/init.d/apache2)
[03:55] <bruenig> nivekc1, do locate *distributor*logo* I think that is what it is called, replace that file
[03:55] <Flannel> doms: Do you have a web server?  PHP doesn't run in a browser
[03:55] <doms> i dont know if my httpd is already installed?
[03:55] <shwag> how do I allow a normal user to run a service on port 80 ?
[03:55] <SlimG2> Is there a command to translate filenames into "safe" filenames?
[03:55] <bruenig> SlimG2, define safe
[03:55] <greg_g> Pelo, yeah, I used to live in South Side Minneapolis, it is fine in the winter, but it is true what they say about hot crazy summers
[03:55] <doms> i want to install apache2 and php5 and phpmyadmin
[03:55] <Flannel> doms: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   Check that out, that'll get you up to speed
[03:55] <pyrak> how do i know: do i have a 32-bit x86 or a 64-bit amd64
[03:55] <doms> ok thanks
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: run in terminal
[03:56] <MTecknology> I had an install of Ubuntu on this hard drive. I moved the partition to be a bigger size and closer to the start of the drive but something crapped out. So I reinstalled Ubuntu. The amount I increased it by is smaller than the whole install. Is there any way to try to recover those files?
[03:56] <doms> after i did the installation my php doesnt work and my apache seems OK in /var/www/ directory
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: that'll tell you EVERYTHING about your processor that the kernel can suss out of it
[03:56] <wesolek> does anybody know how to connect to the remote desktop (it's running on windows)
[03:56] <MTecknology> it was about 10G worth and i'd prefer not buy the crap again
[03:56] <bruenig> MTecknology, if you formatted the drive, certainly not
[03:56] <SlimG2> bruenig: I think I read somewhere of a tool to translate filnames to match ex. CD filesystems (cant remember atm what the CD fs is called)
[03:56] <Atra_Phasma> hi
[03:57] <neozen> doms: you'll probably need to install mod_php
[03:57] <quaal> hi
[03:57] <neozen> Atra_Phasma, quaal: hi
[03:57] <LCCUB> wesolek: terminal server client
[03:57] <pyrak> neozen, so the 64 is the clflushsize?
[03:57] <LCCUB> allows you to connect under rdp
[03:57] <neozen> .........
[03:57] <Atra_Phasma> hey.... can someone help me out?
[03:57] <MTecknology> bruenig, but i'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't wipe the partition, just marks things as gone, right? same as how windows does things when you choose the quick format
[03:57] <__mikem> Pelo, gdesklets crashes when gnome tries to execute it on startup, but works fine when I execute it manually, but the problem is, I DON'T WANT TO EXECUTE IT MANUALLY.
[03:57] <bruenig> SlimG2, if I know what you are talking about I am sure I could put together a bash script to do it, but I don't know what the original filenames are and then what you are expecting them to change to
[03:57] <Flannel> !anyone | Atra_Phasma
[03:57] <ubotu> Atra_Phasma: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:57] <Atra_Phasma> not meaning to inturrupt convos *cringr*
[03:57] <bruenig> MTecknology, no it wipes it
[03:58] <MTecknology> damn
[03:58] <wesolek> thanks lccub :)
[03:58] <quaal> does anyone know why everytime i logout i have to login and (CTRL-ALT-Backspace) and relogin 3 or more times just so i can get my menubars ?
[03:58] <LCCUB> np
[03:58] <pyrak> is there a default keyboard shortcut fo launch terminal?
[03:58] <neozen> pyrak: I'ma say no
[03:58] <bruenig> MTecknology, at least when you format, if you just rm something, it isn't necessarily gone, but formatting the partition and it is
[03:58] <imbecile> neozen,  so how do i extract the folder with my vmx in it to filesystem with fileroller?
[03:58] <miyako> hmm, I tried to install a package with apt-get, it won't install, and it won't remove, apt-get -f install doesn't fix it, and now I can't install anything
[03:58] <sparda> you can make one
[03:58] <Pelo> __mikem,  what command are you using to start it manualy ?
[03:58] <miyako> anyone have any ideas?
[03:58] <quaal> the first time i have my desktop (icons and such) but now i dont
[03:58] <__mikem> gdesklets
[03:58] <quaal> i dont know if this is a gnome issue or what
[03:58] <Atra_Phasma> I need help installing Ubuntu on a Windows computer
[03:58] <neozen> pyrak: since mine says the same thing... and I know for a fact that this is a 32-bit cpu
[03:58] <|Porsche> how do i have nickserv send me a password reminder?
[03:58] <SlimG2> bruenig: I'm capable of putting together such a script myself, but I wouldn't have to if there already was a complete app up for the task
[03:58] <Pelo> __mikem, and what command are you using to startit automaticaly
[03:58] <p1ls> hey how can i check on what disck my /home folder is installed?
[03:59] <sparda> atra_phasm you have the live cd?
[03:59] <__mikem> Pelo, same command
[03:59] <bruenig> SlimG2, don't know of too many apps whose sole intention is to rename files, that is more of a bash thing so I doubt someone would waste their time, but maybe
[03:59] <pyrak> neozen, hm, well i need to figer out:<neozen> pyrak: since mine says the same thing... and I know for a fact that this is a 32-bit cpu
[03:59] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: don't worry about interrupting.... its impossible to avoid with irc
[03:59] <Pelo> __mikem,  do you get any error msg when it crashes ?
[03:59] <jrib> p1ls: df  or  mount  or take a look at /etc/fstab
[03:59] <miyako> is there any config file that I can use to go in and edit to tell apt to forget about a package?
[03:59] <__mikem> No, it just terminates
[03:59] <pyrak> neozen, so that i know which bootloader installer thingey to use on my ipod
[04:00] <pyrak> http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> I cant resize Partition space with GPart, because it errors me each time I try to, and I cant create a partition because there is no unallocated space. I tried to install from live CD, but it freezes each time i hit enter for "Install Ubuntu"
[04:00] <zoidberg_> guys i have a problem and really need some help
[04:00] <SlimG2> bruenig: I'm sure I'll find those timewasters :)
[04:00] <_stress_> tell us
[04:00] <monst> i just install xubuntu, and when i login x starts to come up that hangs and my keyboard stops working...
[04:00] <monst> not sure what to do
[04:00] <Pelo> __mikem, can you get me a screenshot of your desktop with the desklets running, so I have an idea which one are running to see if one of them might be the problem ?
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> and there is green text saying "loading" in the corners
[04:00] <doms> yes i did install libapache2-mod-php5
[04:00] <sparda> phasm, you have enough free space?
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> :-(
[04:00] <neozen> pyrak: if this is just for a basic desktop, install 32 bit version
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> i have 20 gig free space
[04:00] <neozen> pyrak: will work just fine on 64bit cpus
[04:00] <monst> i copyed xorg.conf from my working ubuntu install... still does it
[04:00] <imbecile> neozen,  i figured it out
[04:00] <doms> but my php doesnt work my apache
[04:00] <Pelo> __mikem,  and please use my nick when talking to me,  it 's easier to keep up
[04:00] <mister_roboto> monst: can you get a login prompt if you hit ctl-alt-f1?
[04:01] <neozen> pyrak: for about 99% of 64bit cpus in existence
[04:01] <monst> mister_roboto , yeah im there now using irc from a term
[04:01] <zoidberg_> I have G4 powermac and whenever i try installing ubuntu badger,dapper, or edgy on it on the bast system it gives me a Debootstrap Warning for a whole bunch of files till it says it cannot install....but the cdrom is fine...i checked many and burned many isos
[04:01] <mike3_> Hi guys... when installing packages you're not building packages from source like gentoo are yah?
[04:01] <pyrak> neozen, well this is actually an hp pavilion notebook
[04:01] <zoidberg_> is there a solution to this...cant i download the files for a server or something and have the setup look for files on the server?
[04:01] <Pelo> zoidberg_,  did you try the alternate install cd ?
[04:01] <Atra_Phasma> Sparda: i have 20 gig fre space
[04:01] <sparda> it wont work on a g4
[04:01] <__mikem> Pelo, look I am sorry I am being so irate, but I had a very aggrivating 2 days at work, and I am just not that patient. I shouldn't be taking it out on you
[04:01] <Atra_Phasma> free*
[04:01] <mister_roboto> monst: you should find the cause of the error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:01] <sparda> oh
[04:01] <zoidberg_> Pelo, thats what i've been working with
[04:02] <sparda> are you manually partitioning it?
[04:02] <nullmind> How can I escape a command argument programatically?
[04:02] <neozen> __mikem: so rare that people apologize here
[04:02] <zoidberg_> can anyone help me please?
[04:02] <dinkle> where can i find the /.fonts folder in ubuntu?
[04:02] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: try using the alternate install
[04:02] <monst> mister_roboto: ill check it
[04:02] <Atra_Phasma> i tried diskmgmt with windows, but no unallocated space and booting to Gpart doesnt let me resize the HDD
[04:02] <p1ls> at dev/sda2 i have installed / so there will be home right?
[04:02] <frank_> I'm trying to format a floppy disk on xubuntu 7.04 on an old machine; where can I find the command?
[04:02] <sparda> zoidberg, you cant on a mac g4
[04:02] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: you might also have a bad burn
[04:02] <Pelo> __mikem, my thinking is that one or more of your desklets needs something else loaded for then to work and it doesn'T get loaded before gdesklets when you autoload,
[04:02] <pyrak> neozen, i think its a pentium M, if that means anything...
[04:03] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: You'll need to first shrink the windows partition.  If it reports 20GB free in windows, that's space on the windows partition, the drive (presumably) is fully partitioned
[04:03] <Pelo> __mikem,  you might also try with this command   export DISPLAY=:0 && gdesklets
[04:03] <neozen> pyrak: that's a 32bit cpu
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> nezen: no, ive installed it on 2 other compws
[04:03] <neozen> pyrak: am 90% sure
[04:03] <mister_roboto> nullmind: what do you mean exactly? what are you tryhing to escape?
[04:03] <jrib> dinkle: ~/.fonts  means the  .fonts  directory in your HOME directory (/home/username).  It usually does not exist by default, so create it if it doesn't.  Also, directories that start with a '.' are hidden, so go to view -> show hidden files
[04:03] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: how much ram does the box have?
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> @ falnnel, fullly partitioned meaning?
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> the only partition i have is recovery
[04:03] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: if its 128 or less.... use the alternate install
[04:03] <mike3_> Hi guys... when installing packages you're not building packages from source like gentoo are yah?
[04:04] <neozen> mike3_: HELL no
[04:04] <__mikem> okay let me try it
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> @neozen: 128 what?
[04:04] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: meaning the entirety of the disk has a partition ontop of it.  There's no "free" space on the disk (nothing unallocated), even if one of the partitions has space for more data.
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> it is that
[04:04] <maxagaz> what is the best way to download rtsp videos ?
[04:04] <Perdente> neozen, would you get a ps3?
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> i cannot rezise it though
[04:04] <mike3_> fantastic. I fucked my gentoo box and I'm not in the mood to rebuild a myth box for the next week or two
[04:04] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: 1289MB of RAM
[04:04] <nullmind> mister_roboto: I'm using alltray to wrap uTorrent and I need to pass the arguments escape because of the communication between alltray -> wine -> utorrent
[04:04] <neozen> *128
[04:04] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: when you make a new partition, say 1GB, even before you've put stuff in it, it's no longer "free space" because it's been given to that partition.
[04:04] <mister_roboto> mike3_: the ubuntu repositories are debian packages, binary, prebuilt packages
[04:04] <mike3_> I want to get this up and running in the same day
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | mike3_
[04:04] <Pelo> frank_,  no garranties but I think there is an app already installed but not listed in the menu because it is not activated ( in the menu ) , try checking the box in   menu > system > prefs > main menu
[04:04] <ubotu> mike3_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> ooh
[04:04] <mike3_> no bull shit
[04:04] <neozen> Perdente: no
[04:04] <mike3_> sorry
[04:04] <mike3_> Just fed up
[04:04] <mike3_> ;)
[04:04] <mike3_> :)
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> I have..... 152mb..?
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> something liekt that
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> let me check
[04:05] <frank_> thanks pels
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: use the alternate install just in case
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi allI need help with Quicken under wine...  I have ie 5.5 and ie 6 installed but quicken install fails to find them..
[04:05] <Atra_Phasma> what is alternate install?
[04:05] <pyrak> is there a keyboard shortcut to launch terminal?
[04:05] <pyrak> (by default)
[04:05] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: try #winehq
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: the alternate install cd
[04:05] <zoidberg_> can anybody help me please?
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: different image
[04:05] <Atra_Phasma> OK
[04:05] <zoidberg_> I have G4 powermac and whenever i try installing ubuntu badger,dapper, or edgy on it on the bast system it gives me a Debootstrap Warning for a whole bunch of files till it says it cannot install....but the cdrom is fine...i checked many and burned many isos
[04:05] <Perdente> neozen, I was joking because there was a video of a guy waiting in line for a wii and they asked him if he wanted.... here look at thishttp://youtube.com/watch?v=7nL-j3Tx-KA
[04:05] <jrib> pyrak: no, set one in systme -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:05] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  consider using  grisbi or gnucash or kmymoney instead,  quicken doesn't work well under wine
[04:05] <neozen> mike3_: no problems
[04:05] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: it's text based instead of a liveCD based  Boots straight into the installer.  releases.ubuntu.com and you'll find it.
[04:05] <mister_roboto> nullmind: if i'm understanding you correctly, you could wrap the args in single quotes so they don't get expanded by the first program you're calling (wine, i guess)
[04:06] <jrib> pyrak: though there is alt-f2 for a run dialog...
[04:06] <neozen> mike3_: we'll get you up and running
[04:06] <p1ls> did anyone used program cryptsetup before?
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> will Ubuntu Partition y HDD for Ubuntu if i boot from it?
[04:06] <__mikem> Pelo, it didn't even appear to start with the export
[04:06] <mister_roboto> nullmind: errr... i mean expanded by the shell as it calls the first program
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> my HDD*
[04:06] <neozen> mike3_: depending on what you're trying to do out of box.... we could have you completely set up in 2 hours or so
[04:06] <Pelo> Atra_Phasma, you will get the option to do so during the install process
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> OK
[04:06] <Pelo> __mikem,  can I have that screenshot of your desktop so I can see which desklets you have running ?
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> I'm assuming th Alternate install image is on the site as well?
[04:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: yes... alternate install image is on site
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> thank you
[04:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: might I also recommend ubuntu-lite for this box instead of regular ubuntu
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> i will retry, and be back if it doesnt work!:-) thank you for all the help
[04:08] <Atra_Phasma> what are the diffferences between the two?
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: ok... best of luck
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: ubuntu-lite is unofficial... and uses icewm instead of gnome
[04:08] <dinkle> jrib, HUGE help thanks a bunch.  Wish someone would put that online so I could freaking find it in google, thanks again.
[04:08] <__mikem> pelo http://mikemiller.dyndns.org/gdesk.png
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: still pulls software from the same repositories though
[04:08] <jrib> !fonts > dinkle (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:08] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:08] <Atra_Phasma> same general GUI?
[04:08] <Pelo> __mikem, thank you , hold on
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: so you get all the apps with much less slowdown
[04:09] <monst> mister_roboto: no errors other then a missing font directorty
[04:09] <Atra_Phasma> i like the gnome Gui
[04:09] <mike3_> neozen, setting up mythtv
[04:09] <zoidberg_> is there a ubuntu powerpc channel?
[04:09] <jrib> dinkle: I'm not sure if you've seen that wiki page that ubotu sent you, but it would be great if you could add what you feel would be helpful.  Thanks!
[04:09] <mike3_> dedicated mythtv box
[04:09] <doms> gksudo "gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf"     what should i change in User and Group?
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: oh bloody hell
[04:09] <UToddTu> Hi. I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like updates cause sysload to go to really big number
[04:09] <mike3_> ?
[04:09] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: you're going to have a ton of fun with that
[04:09] <FarrisG> So I actually "fixed" my slow NFS problem. Don't know what the problem was, but the BCM5704 just didn't like our Celerra's NFS exports at all. Had to disable those and put some intel gige cards in those boxes
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: what kind of capture card are you using?
[04:09] <miyako> night all
[04:09] <mike3_> neozen, I've done it on a gentoo box
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: ok
[04:09] <mike3_> twice now
[04:09] <mike3_> I know the hardware and requirements
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: but it took you forever and now you want to see if ubuntu can go faster
[04:10] <mike3_> lirc, ivtv, mythtv-setup, mythfrontend, acpi calls..... so on
[04:10] <mike3_> neozen, I fucked up my CHOST flags
[04:10] <mike3_> fucked my system up large
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: let me dig up a good tutorial on doing this from a friend of mine
[04:10] <Pelo> __mikem,  if you are running beryl consider using screenlets instead of gdesklets but for now you can try this little bit :
[04:10] <mike3_> and I will probably have to redo this
[04:10] <qqqqq> salut
[04:10] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: CHOST?
[04:10] <Atra_Phasma> thanks for the help... will be back soon witht he resuilts!
[04:10] <jrib> mike3_: please stop with the language
[04:10] <mike3_> yes
[04:10] <mike3_> sorry
[04:10] <mister_roboto> monst: hmmm... x failing to start but no error...
[04:10] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:10] <monst> it doesnt fail to start really
[04:10] <noscreen> Hello everyone, i am having problem starting xserver on my laptop with AIT X1400, i have tried reconfiguring xserver and then when i use startx an error msg with"no screens found" pops to me.
[04:10] <jrib> !repeat > moustafa (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:10] <mike3_> neozen, yes moved the hd to a new computer and goofed up the CHOST
[04:10] <monst> gdm is fine,
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: ah
[04:11] <mike3_> so now my GCC is all out of wacked and I have a half built box
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: yeah.. I could see how that would happen
[04:11] <monst> then after login though, the mouse still moves
[04:11] <moustafa> answer me please
[04:11] <mike3_> it's working but any furture installs of software won't work
[04:11] <zoidberg_> IS THERE A UBUNTU POWERPC/MAC CHANNEL?
[04:11] <monst> but the keyboard becomes disabled
[04:11] <Tomasu> anyone have a madwifi card here using it as an AP?
[04:11] <BrianDonohue> !mac
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <moustafa> I need to know the best downloader
[04:11] <BrianDonohue> !apple
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:11] <mister_roboto> monst: ahhhh... i misunderstood
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: ubuntu would be the easiest to get up and running
[04:11] <mike3_> neozen, Does the kernel need recompling and such
[04:11] <mike3_> ?
[04:11] <neozen> moustafa: downthemall
[04:11] <jrib> zoidberg_: no need for the caps, but I believe this channel is meant for ppc support as well
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: hopefully not
[04:11] <Tomasu> I can't get my wifi adapter to come up properly and automatically in AP mode.
[04:11] <mike3_> haha
[04:12] <neozen> mike3_: everything should just be set up as modules
[04:12] <moustafa> how can i install downthemall
[04:12] <mike3_> uhci
[04:12] <mike3_> ivtv
[04:12] <Pelo> __mikem,  in menu > system > prefs > sessions,   second tab (current session),  select gdesklets from the list , in the bottom part,  change the order from 50 to 55,  it will delay the start up of gdesklets , it will take a bit to load up but if something else is interfering it should take care of that
[04:12] <monst> =\
[04:12] <mike3_> acpi is installed obviously so I can make calls to my acpi alarm ok
[04:12] <zoidberg_> Can anybody HELP me with ubuntu POWERPC installation?
[04:12] <mister_roboto> monst: did it EVER work inside X?
[04:12] <jrib> moustafa: it's a firefox extension, just google for "downthemall firefox extension" and click on it
[04:12] <mike3_> rright?
[04:12] <monst> mister_roboto: i used ubuntu earlyer today fine
[04:12] <neozen> mike3_: in firefox, tools -> add ons -> get extensions -> search for downthemall
[04:12] <doms> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80
[04:12] <doms> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:12] <monst> i just installed xubuntu
[04:12] <moustafa> Thank you
[04:12] <neozen> gah
[04:13] <jrib> !ppc > zoidberg_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:13] <monst> i even copyed a working xorg.conf over
[04:13] <jetscreamer> !xubuntu
[04:13] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> hi
[04:13] <Perdente> I just installed ubuntu ce :-0
[04:13] <mister_roboto> monst: and you didn't install any, change anything, etcc... it just quit working?
[04:13] <Perdente> hahah no, never phew
[04:13] <neozen> sorry mike3 that was meant for moustafa
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> how can I open ports on my comp
[04:13] <monst> right
[04:13] <monst> thing is
[04:13] <neozen> ...guess he left anyway
[04:13] <LCCUB> is it possible to log something for use in terminal
[04:13] <jrib> lexus_nexis: none of them are closed by default
[04:13] <LCCUB> (a command that I will use often)
[04:13] <__mikem> Pelo gdesklets is not in the second tab menju
[04:13] <loko__> hello
[04:13] <monst> i can only install ubuntu using an Alt install then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <Perdente> neozen, can I ask a question?
[04:13] <neozen> Perdente: yes
[04:13] <monst> even livecd do what its doing now
[04:13] <Perdente> alright!
[04:13] <jrib> LCCUB: do you mean an alias or something else?
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> do I have to use something like ipchains or ifconfig
[04:13] <neozen> Perdente: and I'll even try to answer
[04:13] <monst> its mad confusing
[04:14] <Perdente> where does ubuntu save the log files?
[04:14] <loko__> am i still connected?
[04:14] <jrib> !firewall > lexus_nexis (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:14] <LCCUB> jrib: um kinda a long command
[04:14] <Pelo> __mikem,  how were you trying to autostart gdesklets before ?
[04:14] <zoidberg_> i'm having problemsiwth my ubuntu POWERPC installation can anybody help me...i've tried the forums and everthing...i really need some HELP?
[04:14] <jrib> Perdente: /var/log/ ?
[04:14] <Perdente> ....
[04:14] <Perdente> hahah....
[04:14] <Perdente> oh
[04:14] <LCCUB> jrib:  (something for stunnel)
[04:14] <maxagaz> how to downlod rtsp stream ?
[04:14] <John__> In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:14] <__mikem> Pelo, in the first tab, that says 'Startup Programs'
[04:14] <mister_roboto> monst: yes, that's bizarre. i don't see how it can just suddenly quit working when you (supposedly) haven't changed anything
[04:14] <neozen> mike3_: you've got a basic ubuntu set up on the box already right?
[04:14] <Pelo> __mikem, hmm
[04:14] <Perdente> and a follow up would be is there any dreamweaver equivelant app on ubuntu?
[04:14] <jrib> LCCUB: alias something_short='something really long in here'     <-- does this do what you want?
[04:14] <mike3_> neozen, no nothing yet
[04:14] <mike3_> This is another night project
[04:14] <lexus_nexis> has anyone tried out gnump3d
[04:15] <mister_roboto> monst: no unusual message of any kind in /var /log/messages?
[04:15] <UToddTu> Hi. I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like updates cause sysload to go to really big number
[04:15] <mike3_> I'm just fed up with gentoo .. You make one mistake it takes you 3 days to fix
[04:15] <lexus_nexis> I saw how it works and it look really slick
[04:15] <mike3_> I have better things to do with my time
[04:15] <lexus_nexis> and easy to setup
[04:15] <LCCUB> jrib: sorry I didn't follow you the first time, so I can create an "alias" that will do a sort of text replacement?
[04:15] <neozen> mike3_: ok... and you want to just wipe out what you've got and install ubuntu on top of this messed up box
[04:15] <cybersoup> what's up kids?
[04:15] <Perdente> holla
[04:15] <mike3_> i will take my config files and such out
[04:15] <mike3_> make things easier
[04:15] <monst> ill look some more...
[04:15] <Pelo> __mikem,  you have gdesklet running now,   go to the third tab and  "save the current session" , see if it appears in the second tab,  if so make the edit , if not restart x and check again
[04:15] <jrib> LCCUB: right, try this one (it's not permanent):  alias e='echo hi'     and then type: e
[04:16] <monst> can someone link me to the latest version of envy .deb...
[04:16] <mike3_> neozen, where do you put where you want your modules to autoload upon start???
[04:16] <John__> In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:16] <Pelo> __mikem,  you do have a  gdesklet in start app currently ?
[04:16] <jrib> !envy > monst (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:16] <sparda> hey you guys think i should keep edgy or go to feisty?
[04:16] <monst> hard to navigate web from console
[04:16] <Pelo> sparda,  fiesty
[04:16] <jrib> sparda: feisty imo it's worth it
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: which modules do you want to install?
[04:16] <jrib> !ugprade > sparda (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:16] <mister_roboto> monst: lol   yes, i guess. what about lynx?
[04:16] <mike3_> ivtv
[04:16] <LCCUB> jrib: that's perfect :)
[04:16] <mike3_> lirc_mceusb2
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: might be packages for them in the repository
[04:16] <mike3_> i'm sure there is
[04:16] <__mikem> Pelo, yes, but it didn't show up in the second tab when I saved the session
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: ok....
[04:16] <__mikem> brb
[04:16] <monst> well, lynx is hellworld imo
[04:16] <mike3_> but things like building packages with support for things
[04:17] <mike3_> things like that .
[04:17] <jrib> LCCUB: add it to your ~/.bashrc if you want it to stick (there should be some comments in there about aliases but it can go anywhere really)
[04:17] <sparda> so all the moaning ppl had is all over for feisty?
[04:17] <mike3_> how do you do that?
[04:17] <neozen> mike3_: just for future reference... if you're talking to me.... put my nickname at the beginning of what you're saying....
[04:17] <LCCUB> jrib: sorry, care to elaborate?
[04:17] <mike3_> neozen, got'cha
[04:17] <neozen> mike3_: helps alot with knowing when you're talking to me and not someone else talking to someone else
[04:17] <mister_roboto> !tab
[04:17] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:18] <__mikem> It still isn't there in the second tab
[04:18] <jrib> LCCUB: well when you do that alias command, it will only work until you close the terminal.  Then it is lost.  If you want it to work for every terminal instance, then you can add it to your ~/.bashrc file, it's just a text file you edit
[04:18] <mike3_> neozen, if you want to install a package, and you want support for something else, is it needed. I mean you said all things are prebuilt binaries. so to get support for lirc_mceusb2 when lirc installs how do you do such a thing?
[04:18] <neozen> mike3_: looks like ivtv is already builtin to the generic kernel in feisty
[04:18] <imbecile> neozen,  what does this mean? Cannot connect virtual device parallel0. No corresponding device is available on the host.
[04:18] <sparda> !upgrade
[04:18] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:18] <__mikem> pelo, it still isn't in the second tab
[04:18] <Pelo> __mikem,  grasping at stras here but why do you have an gdesklet icon in your top pannel ?
[04:18] <jrib> mike3_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:19] <Pelo> straws
[04:19] <c01100011> !beryl
[04:19] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:19] <__mikem> Pelo, you mean in the screen shot?
[04:19] <harlan_> Can someone help me please?
[04:19] <doms> why ? when i open my  localhost/textphp.php  firefox gettings started to download the file
[04:19] <neozen> imbecile: means you don't have a parellel port on your ACTUAL system.... so vmware can't allow the virtual machine to see it
[04:19] <jrib> !php > doms (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:19] <Pelo> __mikem,  how else would I know ?
[04:19] <jrib> !helpme | harlan_
[04:19] <ubotu> harlan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <__mikem> Pelo, thats because I launched it manually when I took that shot
[04:19] <imbecile> neozen,  so i cant set it up?
[04:19] <LCCUB> jrib: can I just add a noncommented alias to that file towards the end?
[04:19] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me figure out why my evms volumes are only reading at about 1MBps, even though they used to be just as fast as the block device they're created on, and the block decice itself is still reading at about 150MBps?
[04:19] <jrib> LCCUB: yep
[04:20] <daquin1> who told me how to compile a package manually before ?
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: you might not need to install any other package to get lirc_mceusb2
[04:20] <Pelo> __mikem,  how did you install gdesklets ?
[04:20] <__mikem> with apt-get
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: let me look in the basic repos
[04:20] <daquin1> does this chat have logs?
[04:20] <jrib> !logs > daquin1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:20] <mike3_> neozen, how would you build a package to get that support?
[04:20] <Pelo> __mikem,  I give up
[04:20] <mike3_> that's what i'm wondering
[04:20] <doms> why ? when i open my  http://localhost/textphp.php  firefox gettings started to download the file
[04:20] <harlan_> ok, sorry. um i just installed ubuntu and when i tried to find my wireless card it's not there
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: you might not need to
[04:20] <jrib> mike3_: I just linked you to the documentation, did you see it?
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: let me do a little research
[04:20] <mike3_> neozen, not all packages are not built with certain support. how do you do it
[04:20] <Pelo> !wifi | harlan_
[04:20] <ubotu> harlan_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:21] <Pelo> !dualhead | thirnit
[04:21] <ubotu> thirnit: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:21] <LCCUB> jrib:  does it have to be within if/fi
[04:21] <jrib> LCCUB: no
[04:21] <Perdente> !logs
[04:21] <thirnit> muchas gracias
[04:21] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:21] <__mikem> Isn't there a script that you can put in your home diffectory that will automaticly execute on startup?
[04:21] <lexus_nexis> hi i was wonder what is the command in iptable to open say port 8080
[04:21] <jrib> __mikem: many
[04:21] <neozen> mike3_: you examine the documentation for the utility that that package installed as to where it puts its files on debian/ubuntu ... and follow the directions
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: that's what I've done thusfar
[04:22] <__mikem> jrib, do you have any idea why this crap isn't working
[04:22] <sparda> are there (graphic) drivers for the intel chipset
[04:22] <jrib> __mikem: can you elaborate?
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: you mind switching to PM?
[04:22] <Pelo> __mikem,  try removing all the desklets, except for the clock and  then see if the autostart will work,  I'm guessing there is something that borkes your startup and that it is one of the desklets you are usuing
[04:22] <mike3_> neozen, huh?
[04:22] <lexus_nexis> there are modules for intel cards
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: I'm having a hell of a time keeping up..... busy night tonight
[04:22] <lexus_nexis> for the (graphics)
[04:22] <mike3_> ok... my gf is calling.
[04:22] <mike3_> i really should go. :)
[04:23] <__mikem> I installed gdesklets. I liked it and wanted to have it autostart, but every time it gets executed by gnome automaticly, it crashes
[04:23] <neozen> mike3_: just keep an eye out for a window in your irc client with my name in it
[04:23] <__mikem> jrib ^
[04:23] <mike3_> neozen, if you're on tomorrow I will talk
[04:23] <John__> one last time :) magic word, please. In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:23] <LCCUB> jrib: one more thing sorry, I assume this will take effect upon reboot?
[04:23] <lexus_nexis> gdesklets really suck
[04:23] <carajea1> hey ya guys im having a bit of trouble with my graphics. My glxgears prog. is running extremely slow
[04:23] <Perdente> neozen, are you on every night?
[04:23] <jrib> __mikem: did you check bugs.ubuntu.com?
[04:23] <neozen> mike3_: If I am on tomorrow... it will be later in the evening
[04:23] <CoFFeY> =/
[04:23] <jrib> LCCUB: it will take effect next time you open a terminal
[04:23] <carajea1> is there anyway to see why glxgears would be running extremely slow??
[04:23] <neozen> Perdente: not so much these days
[04:23] <LCCUB> cool
[04:23] <neozen> Perdente: why do you ask?
[04:23] <LCCUB> thanks alot jrib
[04:23] <__mikem> jrib, I don't think its an ubuntu bug but hold on
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: I come in here, when I can spare the time
[04:24] <jrib> __mikem: check ~/.xsession-errors  too
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: tends to eat a lot of it
[04:24] <LCCUB> works like a charm
[04:24] <sek> neozen are you also on theplace.bz?
[04:24] <Perdente> well, I'm finally starting to get the hang of things on my ubuntu and so I started helping people here and I actually helped a couple of people out
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: I used to LIVE in here for quite a while
[04:24] <daquin1> what was the link for the logs again ?
[04:24] <IcemanV9> hmm ... xchat-gnome does NOT have a text replacement just like xchat does :( is there a workaround for text replacement to work in xchat-gnome??
[04:24] <neozen> sek: no... must be different neozen
[04:24] <Perdente> but anyway, so I'm trying to get on more and do more
[04:24] <Music_Shuffle> IcemanV9, ...use the regular XChat in Gnome?
[04:24] <Perdente> just seeing who'se a
[04:24] <jrib> !logs > daquin1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:24] <harlan_> it's not telling me exactly how to do it, i have a linksys wpc11 ver 4
[04:24] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless interent for my compaq presario v5000
[04:24] <Perdente> "local"
[04:24] <Pelo> __mikem, personnaly I now start gdesklets with a cron job, because of that buged that made it crash every 16 hrs or so,  I basicaly restart it on the hour,   it's not even set to autostart anymore,  you might try that
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: that's good
[04:25] <harlan_> i forgot how i did it last timw
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: we're happy to have the help
[04:25] <Ravenndude`> When my machine boots, instead of seeing ubuntu with a loading bar below it, I just have a black screen. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:25] <IcemanV9> Music_Shuffle: besides using xchat!
[04:25] <lashmoove> any jack-guru's here ?
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: as you can see ... gets quite crazy in here sometimes
[04:25] <Perdente> neozen, lol thanks, I tried to help at launchpad, but it just takes so long for a response
[04:25] <__mikem> whats cron?
[04:25] <Perdente> neozen, yeah, this is a little worse than usual
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: correction ... busy not crazy
[04:25] <Pelo> __mikem, scheduled tasks
[04:25] <neozen> __mikem: in terminal type man cron
[04:25] <Music_Shuffle> IcemanV9, Oh.  Then I got nothing, sorry
[04:25] <Perdente> true
[04:25] <Perdente> sorry
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> good morning...
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I am trying to install driver for my dapper ubuntu
[04:26] <neozen> __mikem: runs certain tasks automatically every X where x is minutes, days, weeks, years etc
[04:26] <lashmoove> anyone got jack to show 4 output channels or more?
[04:26] <IcemanV9> Music_Shuffle: np. i just want to use xchat-gnome (it's so simple).
[04:26] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: good morning
[04:26] <lufis> What's the best brand of all in one printer for linux?
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> but I don't know the kernel version of dapper
[04:26] <volenin> hi
[04:26] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless interent for my compaq presario v5000
[04:26] <Pelo> __mikem,  type  crontab -e ,  and add this line  0 *     * * *   export DISPLAY=:0 && gdesklets restart
[04:26] <volenin> have a quick question
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I read that it is 2.6.15
[04:26] <lufis> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname
[04:26] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: which driver for which device?
[04:26] <Perdente> _mikem, are you still looking for a way to run something every startup?
[04:26] <IcemanV9> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname -rs
[04:27] <Pelo> volenin, thre is no such thing
[04:27] <volenin> if KDM is being started at system bootup
[04:27] <Ravenndude`> Install Xbitch, it has text replacement
[04:27] <xsacha> hi
[04:27] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname -a
[04:27] <daquin1> those logs aren't up to date
[04:27] <volenin> and i'm also starting another X server (just for freevo)
[04:27] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: that should tell you everything
[04:27] <goodtimes> is WaltzingAlong around?
[04:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I am sorry the computer is not here at this current time
[04:27] <jrib> daquin1: they're not realtime
[04:27] <volenin> on 'TV' screen
[04:27] <imbecile_> neozen,  sorry i missed what you said to my last question i was stuck in fullscreen
[04:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I don't remember exactly the kernel version
[04:27] <volenin> which one will remain active
[04:28] <volenin> ?
[04:28] <__mikem> Perdente, gdesklets crashes every time I try to run it at startup but works fine when I execute it manually, and I am had a hard day at work, I don't need $h!t to just not work
[04:28] <shawn34> Is it possible to get my desktop icons to display at 100% but everything in folder view to display at 75?
[04:28] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: have you updated and upgraded the kernel since original setup?
[04:28] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless internet for my compaq presario v5000 laptop?
[04:28] <volenin> kdm is running on display :0
[04:28] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> no
[04:28] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you probably need to change the resolution for the bootup to the native resolution of your video card.  the paramater is vga and it goes into /boot/grub/menu.lst, so in my case 1280x1024 is vga=794
[04:28] <Pelo> gnight folks
[04:28] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> not at all
[04:28] <daquin1> jrib:  can you look in your scroll back and see who told me how to use make a deb ?
[04:28] <Perdente> _mikem, what are you using to start it up everytime you boot?
[04:28] <volenin> the second server (TV screen layout) on display :1
[04:28] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: that's good news.... I might be able to look that up for you
[04:28] <IcemanV9> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: for dapper, it is 2.6.15-28
[04:28] <__mikem> Perdente, right now the session manager
[04:28] <doms> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 192.168.1.20:80
[04:28] <doms> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:28] <jrib> daquin1: he's not here anymore, it was bur[n] er
[04:29] <volenin> normally the kdm ends up on tty7
[04:29] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, tyvm, I'll test it momentarily.
[04:29] <hybridsto> I am trying to boot from the ubuntu live cd and after the splash screen I am getting "(17179570.084000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0"
[04:29] <daquin1> jrib:  can you paste waht he said again ?
[04:29] <volenin> while the freevo server - on tty9
[04:29] <jrib> daquin1: what are you trying to do?
[04:29] <Perdente> _mikem, ok go to your session manager and what command does it say under the gdesk... info?
[04:29] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> IcemanV9, thank you very much bro :D
[04:29] <carajea1> ok guys im getting api mismatch on my nvidia setting is there a way to fix this???
[04:29] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, thanks :D
[04:30] <daquin1> jrib:  i just need the argument for make install and the dpkg command to build a deb
[04:30] <volenin> only one session can be active at a time (ie, if i''m switching to tty7 - kdm - the TV screen goes out)
[04:30] <__mikem> Perdente, gdesklets
[04:30] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: is this ubuntu desktop or server?
[04:30] <volenin> if i'm switching to tty9 - freevo -- the monitor goes out
[04:30] <jrib> daquin1: that doesn't make sense, what are you trying to build?
[04:30] <|Porsche> how can i have nickserv email me my password?
[04:30] <Perdente> __mikem: ok, that would make sense, now when you run it, do you run it from your menubar or the terminal?
[04:30] <daquin1> jrib:  from source....
[04:30] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you can go http://www.mepis.org/node/2992 to see a table with some different vga mode settings
[04:30] <neozen> imbecile_: refresh my memory as to the question
[04:30] <volenin> i need 'freevo x server' to get the focus by default on system startup
[04:30] <jrib> daquin1: yes, but what
[04:30] <volenin> what are the rules?
[04:30] <daquin1> pidgin
[04:30] <sek> .adrroooottttttttrr
[04:30] <hybridsto> I am trying to boot from the ubuntu live cd and after the splash screen I am getting "[17179570.084000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0"
[04:31] <Perdente> _mikem, oh and is that what the name of the command was or is that what you saw when you clicked on the command hit edit and looked at the second line?
[04:31] <hybridsto> anyone have any ideas?
[04:31] <daquin1> can you please copy what he wrote ?
[04:31] <eternalswd> I'm trying to build EXIF support into gimp 2.3.18 on Ubuntu Fesity.  I have libexif-dev version 0.6.13 installed. the configure script is not finding it "EXIF support:        no (libexif not found)"  What do I need to do to get this working properly?
[04:31] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, ubuntu for desktop
[04:31] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: thank you... looking
[04:31] <__mikem> Perdente, it is the actual command yes
[04:31] <LCCUB> daquin1: there is a guide online that shows how to compile pidgin for ubuntu, I missed the beginning of your conversation but would you like a link?
[04:31] <daquin1> yea sure
[04:31] <imbecile_> neozen,  i was asking question about parallel0 nor being found
[04:31] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: looks to be 2.6.15-26.46
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: according to the package manifest for ubuntu dapper desktop
[04:32] <Perdente> _mikem: ok cool and I didn't see, what do you use to start gdesklets when it works? the menubar or do you actually type the command in a terminal
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: found here: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.manifest
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: I assumed you used the i386 version
[04:32] <__mikem> Perdente, I use the same command but I am executing it from a terminal
[04:32] <IcemanV9> what? for dapper, it is 2.6.15-28. i am running it on this box (desktop)
[04:33] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> that's right
[04:33] <neozen> IcemanV9: you've updated the kernel since installation
[04:33] <IcemanV9> neozen: that's correct.
[04:33] <neozen> IcemanV9: that's why yours is different
[04:33] <UToddTu> Hi. I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like update manager is causing sysload to go to really big number. Any ideas how I can determine the root cause?
[04:34] <LCCUB> daquin1: http://jhcore.com/2007/06/04/install-pidgin-in-ubuntu/
[04:34] <Perdente> _mikem, hmm I can't find anything, one sec
[04:34] <neozen> IcemanV9: he hasn't updated his kernel to the newest one from the repositories
[04:34] <shawn34> Is it possible to get my desktop icons to display at 100% but everything in folder view to display at 75?
[04:34] <LCCUB> daquin1:  you can update the build number to the current one and it will still work fine (that's what I did)
[04:34] <neozen> imbecile_: ah...
[04:34] <lexus_nexis> this is freaking I have a 32 mb nvidia graphics card and now I can run compiz and have all the 3d screen savers I want
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, then I will try the 2.6.15-26.46
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> thanks neozen
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> :D
[04:34] <IcemanV9> neozen: yes. i didn't realized that until you mentioned "haven't update the kernel"
[04:34] <neozen> imbecile_: yeah.. that means you don't have a parallel port on your actual computer
[04:35] <lexus_nexis>  I mean freaking awsome
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: if you don't have a parallel port on your actual computer.... your virtual machine can't have one
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: its no big deal
[04:35] <Perdente> _mikem, I'm sorry, I checked around, but nobody has a clue, all I can say ( and I know this is stupid) but it is checked in sessions to activate right?
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: won't crash the vm or anything
[04:35] <imbecile_> neozen,  so it should work?
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: define "it"
[04:36] <neozen> imbecile_: there are so many its
[04:36] <imbecile_> neozen,  vmware working
[04:36] <neozen> imbecile_: yes... vmware will work
[04:36] <__mikem> Perdente, yes its set to activate. I am going to try modifying my .profile file and see if that works
[04:36] <onexused> I know there are programs like kppp and gnome-ppp to help people use dial-up internet, but how do I do it without them?  They're frontends to something, right?
[04:36] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:36] <Perdente> _mikem, I would suggest removing the gdesklets in sessions and then adding it again, and logout, login just to check
[04:36] <Perdente> _mikem, ok good luck! sorry
[04:36] <imbecile_> neozen,  thanks
[04:37] <onexused> Ulteo: dvd or cd?
[04:37] <Ulteo> onexused, both.
[04:37] <neozen> imbecile_: you might get a similar message regarding serial ports if your actual machine doesn't have any of those either
[04:37] <Ulteo> onexused, I've tried burning to a rewritable DVD and 2 types of non RW CDs.
[04:37] <imbecile_> neozen,  yeah i got that too
[04:37] <TaJMoX> does anyone know how to make the panel background an image in xfce?
[04:37] <IcemanV9> Ulteo: go very slow; like at 4x or so
[04:37] <Ulteo> Ice, I tried that.
[04:37] <onexused> ulteo: how old is the drive?
[04:37] <neozen> imbecile_: most vms you get off the net (including those made by easyvmx) have support for serial/parellel ports on the off chance that your machine has them
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, Idno, bought the computer in January or Feb of this year.
[04:38] <daquin1> dude thats the stupidest guide i ever saw
[04:38] <daquin1> it doesn't even create a deb it installs completely untracked
[04:38] <imbecile_> neozen,  cool ill just set it not to look for them
[04:38] <Perdente> neozen, ahh I have to go to bed, sorry usually I help I'll be here tommorrow though cyah
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: I gotcha....
[04:38] <onexused> Ulteo: what program are you using? Jw
[04:38] <_stress_> I'm almost giving up of java neozen =( I hope tomorrow be a different day =(
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, I've used three programs.
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: you want the ppp howto
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: let me dig u up a url
[04:38] <daquin1> LCCUB:  thats the dumbest link
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, Imgburn, this program by Alex Feinman, and Infra Recorder
[04:39] <LCCUB> worked for me, sorry
[04:39] <Ulteo> I'm running Vista atm. *gag*
[04:39] <Perdente> _stress_ wait, what's going on with java?
[04:39] <tata> fdsakf
[04:39] <p1ls> hey using program crypt setup, i wnat to create a folder that will be crypt so for the locatin i put what /dev/sda2/home?
[04:39] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, about the vga numbers in /boot/grub/menu.lst ... is that just for the grub boot up screen? I see that fine, but when I let that boot into ubuntu I just have a black screen instead of seeing the ubuntu logo and loading bar.
[04:39] <onexused> Ulteo: hmm. I don't know how to help you if it fails with different progs, and is a new drive. :\ Maybe someone else can.
[04:40] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:40] <neozen> onexused: incidently.... I'm having burning issues with feisty as well if you're interested
[04:40] <daquin1> LCCUB:  dude i was asking how to use dpkg to create a deb... if you follow that link your installed files into your system that your going to have to manually remove one day 1 by 1 if you can even figure out which ones it installed
[04:40] <neozen> Ulteo: reduce your burn speed
[04:40] <Ulteo> neozen, I'm not burning Feisty.
[04:40] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:40] <neozen> Ulteo: no... i meant burning cds INSIDE of feisty.. not burning the feisty image
[04:40] <jrib> daquin1: read help.ubuntu.com packaging guide if you want to do it properly
[04:41] <Ulteo> neozen, I'm not running Feisty.
[04:41] <onexused> neozen: I think he said he's on Vista
[04:41] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, that's not for grub itself it's for bootup, did you check out http://www.mepis.org/node/2992 for the different mode values?
[04:41] <Ulteo> ^^
[04:41] <jrib> daquin1: erm, click on the "6.10" tab
[04:41] <neozen> onexused: I know... I was just speaking to you
[04:41] <Ulteo> Well.
[04:41] <onexused> neozen: ah, ok
[04:41] <Ulteo> This sucks. >_>
[04:41] <neozen> onexused: on the off chance that you knew more about troubleshooting cdburing issues in feisty
[04:41] <neozen> *cd-burning
[04:41] <jrib> !checkinstall >  (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:41] <Ulteo> It goes to the verify part then gives me an I/O error.
[04:42] <jrib> daquin1: and checkinstall is the quick and dirty way
[04:42] <raf256> hello, I need a professional linux distro
[04:42] <Ulteo> And if I skip that part then it's a bad burn.
[04:42] <jrib> raf256: how about ubuntu?
[04:42] <neozen> raf256: define professional
[04:42] <raf256> Im not lame enought to use ubutnu, or is there some not-lame version of it?
[04:42] <daquin1> jrib:  it broke for me on debian based systems.. you try it
[04:42] <Ulteo> lol.
[04:42] <jrib> daquin1: I have?
[04:42] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:42] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> I AM JUST INSTALLING LINUX ON A COMPUTER AND ITS ASKING ME IF IM A VIRGIN IS THIS A TRICK QUESTION
[04:42] <onexused> neozen: I can try, but I know more about Fedora.
[04:42] <raf256> neozen: well, not hidding root user for example
[04:42] <pestilence> is there an open source flv player (something I can embed into a webpage and stream video from my server)?
[04:42] <neozen> raf256: if you mean enterprise class w/o the enterprise price...... try centos
[04:42] <raf256> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: type yes and press enter
[04:42] <c01100011> raf246 - debian
[04:42] <onexused> neozen: thanks for telling me what I need to look up (ppp docs), btw
[04:42] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, Yes, I did. What I want is vga=794 , but where in the file is this needed?
[04:42] <jrib> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: do not use caps and keep it support related please
[04:43] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> r00723r0 THANK YOU
[04:43] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> J4t THANK YOU
[04:43] <raf256> c01100011: debian if for bunch of geeks it would seem
[04:43] <neozen> raf256: its basically RHEL without the logos and all of the same software
[04:43] <jrib> !away > onexused (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:43] <IcemanV9> Ulteo: do you have old machine (before you brought a new one back in Jan or Feb)? if so, use that box to burn CD
[04:43] <c01100011> sorry for feeding the troll, i will be quiet now
[04:43] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:43] <LCCUB> daquin1:  btw, as far as I know, everything is in one directory
[04:43] <_stress_> Perdente you there???
[04:43] <mongolai> anyone here know if there is a .deb file for an X11 or preferably GTK based man page browser?
[04:43] <raf256> is there like UbuntuPro - without the for-noobs stuff?
[04:43] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:43] <Perdente> _stress_: yeah what's up?
[04:43] <neozen> onexused: here's the official ppp howto: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/PPP-HOWTO
[04:43] <daquin1> LCCUB: when you run 'make install' it installs the files to your system
[04:44] <raf256> not hidding root etc.
[04:44] <jrib> raf256: do you have a support question?
[04:44] <Perdente> _stress_: so what's the problem?
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: that's been used........... since the dark ages ...still just as valid now
[04:44] <pestilence> raf256: root is not hidden
[04:44] <raf256> jrib: yes, that one I asked
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: only difference is... now we have package management
[04:44] <onexused> neozen: thanks for the link
[04:44] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> IS IT TRUE THAT LINUS THE CREATOR OF LINUX USED TO WORK FOR MICROSOFT AND STOLE ALOT OF SOFTWARE OFF THEM ILLEGALLY AGAINST COPYRIGHT ACT LAW CODE H.R. 503
[04:44] <_stress_> it's in there on the other tab
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: my pleasure
[04:44] <IcemanV9> raf256: ubuntu is for everyone from professional to newbie
[04:44] <raf256> pestilence: well yeah,  sudo passwd root, but I ment the philosophy behind hidding root user in first place
[04:44] <neozen> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: stop shouting mate
[04:44] <mongolai> ...I've looked in the package manager but nil.
[04:44] <onexused> /aqay
[04:44] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:44] <onexused> crap
[04:44] <Ravenndude`> raf256, have you tried the server install?
[04:44] <pestilence> raf256: it's not hidden.  i don't get your complaint.
[04:45] <raf256> Ravenndude`: I ment to use it as desktop (worksation and server also)
[04:45] <neozen> Ulteo: we don't support vista in there
[04:45] <neozen> *here
[04:45] <neozen> sorry
[04:45] <Ulteo> I'm not asking for help with Vista.
[04:45] <Ulteo> I bet if I were on Ubuntu it'd do the same thing.
[04:45] <raf256> pestilence: by default user can not log into root right?
[04:45] <neozen> Ulteo: lol.... that's debatable
[04:45] <pestilence> raf256: so?
[04:45] <Ulteo> I can prove it, though.
[04:45] <jrib> raf256: he can, see:
[04:45] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you want to look for a line that looks like "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=6dfa991f-c89f-4d0f-aea3-afaa1aa99d6d ro quiet splash" and add vga=794 to it
[04:45] <raf256> pestilence: so I dont like this philosophy
[04:45] <jrib> !root > raf256 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:46] <loko_> Actually I think Microsoft used the gui of Linux in Windows 85
[04:46] <pestilence> raf256: so don't use ubuntu.  and stop whining ;)
[04:46] <raf256> jrib: thanks, but I know that, and I dont like it
[04:46] <loko_> 95*
[04:46] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:46] <jrib> raf256: ok, it's ok that you do not like it
[04:46] <Toma-> Ulteo: in that case, its a hardware fault. call your manufacturer
[04:46] <mongolai> loko_, I was gonna say...
[04:46] <Ulteo> =(
[04:46] <raf256> jrib: so is there something close to ubuntu, but without this part of philosophy
[04:46] <neozen> Ulteo: my dvd burner acted sooooo flakey under windows XP .... wouldn't recognize a cd change without a reboot ..... have had no such issues with the same hardware under linux
[04:46] <Ulteo> I wanted to try updating the firmware..
[04:46] <Perdente> raf256, but if you don't like it because you cannot be root by default, that is something you could change
[04:46] <Ulteo> No, I doubt it's that.
[04:46] <Perdente> ubuntu ce
[04:46] <jrib> raf256: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for ubuntu support
[04:46] <Perdente> hahah
[04:46] <Ulteo> Because I've had the same issues under Linux.
[04:46] <eternalswd> Ulteo, are you birning at slowspeed?
[04:46] <Ulteo> Freespire, Linspire, FC7, Ubuntu.
[04:46] <neozen> Ulteo: I figured it was a driver issue.... then just stopped caring when it worked in linux
[04:46] <xenex> Ulteo, did you try lowering the burn speeds?
[04:47] <Ulteo> Yes.
[04:47] <neozen> Ulteo: what's it set to?
[04:47] <Ulteo> All the way down to 4X.
[04:47] <Toma-> Ulteo: if its the same in 2 different OS's maybe you have a crappy ISO?
[04:47] <raf256> what are the main differences between debian and ubuntu nowdays?
[04:47] <neozen> ok
[04:47] <xenex> Ulteo, try 2X? :P
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:47] <Ulteo> I checked it, it's perfectly fine.
[04:47] <daquin1> jrib:  i dont see the link you wanted me to look at
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: we're more active
[04:47] <Ulteo> I'm baffled.
[04:47] <mongolai> !man package
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <raf256> neozen: yes I see =)
[04:47] <jrib> daquin1: help.ubuntu.com, click on the "6.10" tab and go to Packaging Guide
[04:47] <Ulteo> It's never been this bad before.
[04:47] <mongolai> oops
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: we release far more often
[04:47] <raf256> neozen: but less stable?
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: not at all
[04:47] <raf256> (stable as in: bug free)
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: I've found ubuntu to be VERY bug free
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: I recommend the LTS releases
[04:48] <raf256> can I do professionall stuff in ubuntu about system-admining, like: recombile myself few of libraries with specific gcc flags
[04:48] <Ulteo> LTS is very good.
[04:48] <dsoul_> i cant install my wireless card
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: dapper is rock solid
[04:48] <Ulteo> It's all gone downhill from there, IMO.
[04:48] <raf256> Ulteo: whats LTS
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: as long as you're ok with slightly out of date versions of software
[04:48] <Ulteo> Ubuntu 6.06
[04:48] <dsoul_> someone could help me pleaseeeee
[04:49] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: the lts stands for Long term support
[04:49] <Ulteo> 6.06.1 LTS
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: they release an LTS every 3 years or so
[04:49] <raf256> ok
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: its the more stable version of software... and its supported for longer
[04:49] <eternalswd> dsoul_, patience, no need to ask every minute, if someone can help, they will
[04:49] <loko_> My webcam stays on after boot........Is this a bug, and if it is a bug, is there a work-around for this issue
[04:49] <raf256> are there commerciall versions of ubuntu?
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: .............
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: no
[04:49] <raf256> like - im not a broken jobless debian user and I like to pay more but have real QA
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: not to my knowledge
[04:50] <mongolai> raf256, there is commercial *support* for ubuntu
[04:50] <dsoul_> but i need help :(
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: I wouldn't pay for them anyway
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: now support is another story
[04:50] <raf256> neozen: I would
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: ....well.... so would I
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: quality product
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: I'm happy donating
[04:50] <raf256> the all crap about "omg free as in beer software" is quite hurting linux world, imho
[04:50] <raf256> no $ -> no QA
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: lol
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: right
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: look at this place mon
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: I don't remember getting paid for this
[04:51] <newb_prob> I have a laptop. The cdrom drive on it is broken.
[04:51] <newb_prob> How do I install linux on it?
[04:51] <raf256> neozen: take a look at for-win32 applications, most of them are more polished that most of linux world applications
[04:51] <Toma-> !offtopic
[04:51] <newb_prob> there's got to be some way
[04:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:51] <jrib> !install > newb_prob (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:51] <mongolai> this is OT, but Shuttleworth donated a huge chunk of change to make Ubuntu a reality
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: perhaps
[04:51] <edgarin> I have the same problem of newb_prob :S
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: but it all depends on what the app does
[04:51] <edgarin> and my lapton don't have network
[04:51] <edgarin> only a USB port
[04:51] <jrib> raf256, neozen: lets move the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: and how much people care
[04:52] <eternalswd> dsoul, is your card listed from lspci?
[04:52] <eternalswd> dsoul_, is your card listed from lspci?
[04:52] <hansonry> hello
[04:52] <neozen> jrib: sounds like a good suggestion
[04:52] <shadeofgrey> i really loathe ATI for not having better driver support by nolw
[04:52] <hansonry> I have a quick question
[04:52] <neozen> jrib: I'll just get off the topic and back to answering questions
[04:52] <shadeofgrey> we've only been asking for years
[04:52] <mongolai> hansonry, go ahead,
[04:52] <hansonry> has some one been able to use google lately?
[04:52] <neozen> newb_prob: hmmmmm quite a pickle you've got there
[04:52] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:52] <raf256> how can I rebuild from source apache2 with -fPIC gcc flag, and install it?
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: yes
[04:53] <hansonry> hmm
[04:53] <eternalswd> hansonry, yes, I just used google
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: used just a second ago
[04:53] <hansonry> must be an isolated problem
[04:53] <mongolai> hansonry, yup, me too.
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: if your box can't ping google.... your net is busted
[04:53] <hansonry> thanx a bunch guys
[04:53] <hansonry> well I cant
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: can't resolve google.com
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: probably
[04:53] <eternalswd> could be a location issue
[04:53] <mongolai> keep trying
[04:53] <hansonry> but I can get every other site
[04:53] <MTecknology> Is there anything that will let me do phone calls from my computer like Skype Out does for free?
[04:53] <jrib> raf256: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html edit debian/rules before rebuilding the package
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: strange
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: are you in china?
[04:54] <onexused> How do I get a trash icon on the desktop (gnome) that I can drag things to?  If I make a launcher "nautilus trash:", it won't let me drag things to it to delete them.
[04:54] <hansonry> ya I know
[04:54] <hansonry> nope
[04:54] <Music_Shuffle> Maybe you angered the Google Overlords.
[04:54] <hansonry> usa
[04:54] <jrib> !icons > onexused (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:54] <hansonry> possibly
[04:54] <mongolai> hansonry, did you try to ping google.com
[04:54] <eternalswd> hansonry, try pinging 64.233.167.104
[04:54] <neozen> onexused: welcome back
[04:54] <xenex> onexused, gconf-editor
[04:54] <hansonry> yup not one packet returned
[04:54] <onexused> xenex: thanks
[04:54] <raf256> jrib: is there a harden port/repo for ubuntu, containing programs builded in way integrating with PAX/grsecurity?
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: yep... your box's networking is busted
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: good luck w/ that
[04:54] <hansonry> no i get other sites
[04:55] <eternalswd> hansonry, did you try pinging 64.233.167.104
[04:55] <mongolai> that *is* weird
[04:55] <jrib> raf256: I don't know of a seperate hardened repo
[04:55] <hansonry> google is the only thing that is not working
[04:55] <hansonry> yup nothing
[04:55] <neozen> hansonry: are connections to google blocked by your proxy/firewall
[04:55] <raf256> hansonry: perhaps you'r in chinea
[04:55] <mongolai> hansonry, try youtube?
[04:55] <xenex> onexused, gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> trash_icon_visible true
[04:55] <ryan__> hi, i have ubuntu 7.04 with gnome and networkmanager, and for some reason my wireless doesnt work. i dont know if i have the driver, does anyone know how to add it on a normal dell inspiron with intel?
[04:55] <hansonry> 100% packet loss in 35012ms
[04:55] <hansonry> you tube works
[04:55] <neozen> raf256: I'm pretty sure they have their own (heavily censored) version of google in china
[04:56] <hansonry> but I cant play the movies for some reson
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: get to a terminal, type lspci
[04:56] <mongolai> did it work before, and just suddenly stop?
[04:56] <raf256> does ubuntu have more packages then debian unstable?
[04:56] <hansonry> ya
[04:56] <ryan__> no, it hasnt ever worked
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: select its output and put it in a pastebin
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: get all that?
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> NO DON'T PATE HERE!!!
[04:57] <hansonry> well I think I am going to call my isp
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> *paste
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> .......................don't ban him
[04:57] <raf256> sigh
[04:57] <hansonry> and its not just with ubuntu
[04:57] <neozen> newb mistake
[04:57] <jrib> neozen: he isn't banned
[04:57] <Atra_Phasma> neozen... back... tried using the 7.04 and 6.06 LiveCD versions... no luck
[04:57] <hansonry> vista cant get google eather
[04:57] <jrib> !paste | ryan__
[04:57] <ubotu> ryan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:57] <hansonry> ya
[04:57] <mongolai> hansonry, hang on a sec. lemme look something up real quick, OK?
[04:57] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: not livecd... ALTERNATE install cd
[04:57] <hansonry> ok
[04:57] <yggdrasil> how do i disable the touchpad clicking on a laptop ?
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[04:58] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: only one with alternate in the name
[04:58] <ryan__> im confused where do i put it up?
[04:58] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: would you like a link to the iso?
[04:58] <xenex> yggdrasil, you would most likely do that through the bios
[04:58] <yggdrasil> hahah
[04:58] <jrib> ryan__: visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste there.  Then give us the url to your paste
[04:58] <yggdrasil> ok
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> that yould be glorious
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> would*
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> stupid keyboard
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> but i love Chatzilla <3
[04:59] <mongolai> hansonry, OK. I'm gonna give you a link for something to try, but I've never used it...
[04:59] <hansonry> ok
[04:59] <nothanks> what video card would you guys recommend for a HDTV LCD being used for display
[04:59] <ryan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26695/
[04:59] <mongolai> ...so you're on your own. It gets good reviews though....
[04:59] <neozen> awesome
[04:59] <neozen> thank you
[04:59] <roho> !divx
[04:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:59] <mongolai> ...here it is: http://www.opendns.com/
[04:59] <Atra_Phasma> neozen... can i get the ISO link?
[04:59] <hansonry> well I could always check with my isp
[04:59] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: sure..; where are you located?
[05:00] <Atra_Phasma> Central Illinois, a Chicago server would be preferable
[05:00] <mongolai> it's an different DNS server. But since you can't ping the actual IP address, I don't know how much help it'd be.
[05:00] <ryan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26695/ thats the pastebin
[05:00] <hansonry> well i run digital cable
[05:00] <hansonry> comcast
[05:00] <mongolai> hansonry, yea, that's probably the best thing to do.
[05:00] <eternalswd> hansonry, have you tried going through tor or something similar?
[05:00] <neozen> ryan__: here's your problem: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4328 (rev 01)
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: if that's indeed your wireless card
[05:01] <digimarkk> /exit
[05:01] <onexused> Thanks, people for your help.  Sorry I'm an idiot : )
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: and I'm pretty sure it is
[05:01] <ryan__> ok neozen, thanks, any recommendations? it should be some kind of basic intel card
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: its not an intel
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: intel cards are seen by the kernel just fine
[05:01] <Atra_Phasma> nvm neozen, i found it
[05:01] <ryan__> oh
[05:01] <ryan__> weird
[05:02] <Atra_Phasma> should i be able to run 7.04?
[05:02] <eternalswd> ryan__, what computer model do you have?
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: broadcom's on the other hand........ are EVIL
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: and DON'T work
[05:02] <hansonry> this dns thing I dont think will help
[05:02] <ryan__> uh neozen eternalswd i have a Dell Inspiron E1505
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: (no open source driver that fully works)
[05:02] <hansonry> but thanks anyway mongolai and eternalswd
[05:02] <mongolai> yea, sorry. I don't either, now that I think about it...
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: ok... scoping out info on that model
[05:02] <hansonry> I think I am going to call my isp
[05:03] <mongolai> hey, good luck!
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> @ neozen, should my 1.4GHZ Gateway laptop with 20gb free space be able to run 7.04 alongside XP as a dual boot?
[05:03] <ryan__> neozen thanks i really appreciate it
[05:03] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, try booting the live cd and see.
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> I have
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> the LiveCD lags horribly
[05:03] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, 20 gigs is enough.. Does it work on the live?
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> the same with 6.06
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i dont know why they lag though..
[05:04] <eternalswd> ryan__, It looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 covers your card
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i installed 7.04 on a PIII earilier today.. it ran fine..
[05:04] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, that may be because it's running off the cd. how much ram do you have.
[05:04] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, how much RAM are in the two?
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> o have 190mb
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i*
[05:04] <Music_Shuffle> Umm.  That's kinda low for Gnome. =/
[05:04] <mongolai> Atra_Phasma, hmmm.
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> and 256
[05:04] <Imsdle> my apache2 installation has totally stuffed up. how do i completely remove it and reintall it? i have tried the apt-get remove apache2 and apt-get clean and apt-get install apache2 but i still get httd (no pid file) not running
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> :-((
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> ah well
[05:04] <neozen> ryan__: WHICH e1505 ... I see 3 listed here: http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_inspn_e1505?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[05:05] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, 190mb?  That's why it's lagging... 256 min..  You should try Xubuntu
[05:05] <Imsdle> im wroking on ubuntu server so need to do it via terminal
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Try Xubuntu?  Or Fluxbuntu/Flubuntu/whatever its spelled like?
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> difference in GUI appearence?
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: yeah... you need xubuntu
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, slightly
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> thanks
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, Gnome and XFCE are rather similar in appearance.
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> ill dl the ISO
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I warned you gnome would be really laggy on that little ram
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I live in xubuntu
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> :-) im stubborn...
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> :-(
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: and have rejoiced quite happily
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> ah well
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> :-)
[05:06] <ryan__> i think i have the 3rd one neozen
[05:06] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, Xubuntu can be a lot of fun.. Quick clean interface.
[05:06] <ryan__> with Intel PROset wireless
[05:06] <eternalswd> neozen, it's got to be that first one, seeing as that's the only one using a broadcom
[05:06] <mongolai> Atra_Phasma, I'm running on a Celeron 333mhz with 384 ram right now.
[05:06] <mongolai> w/ gnome
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: xubuntu has rejoiced too... seeing as it has a brand new thinkpad and 1gb of ram to play in
[05:06] <Imsdle> anyone for apache2 problem?
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> :-O
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I just run it.... because its DAMN fast
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> lol
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> yays
[05:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: and has nothing I don't need
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[05:07] <mongolai> Imsdle, just a sec. Lemme look something up real quick
[05:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: though I have found it is lacking in a few key areas
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> i *can* get automatix for it though?
[05:07] <Imsdle> thanks mongolai
[05:08] <eternalswd> ryan__, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 at all, looks like the post deals with your card.
[05:08] <Atra_Phasma> ill try it. thanks guys!
[05:08] <Atra_Phasma> g'night
[05:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: namely some soundcard setup (builtin microphone on the thinkpad setting for record isn't possible in xfce's mixer ... and haven't figured out how to do it in alsamixer).... and its lacking in network-manager-gnome ish wireless card configuration
[05:08] <ryan__> actually i think its the Dell broadcom one
[05:09] <mongolai> Imsdle, I just installed Apache2 today, only on feisty... (i'm still looking for something)...
[05:09] <ryan__> im looking through the page now eternalswd
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: yeah.... its got to be the dell one
[05:09] <Imsdle> yeah i have totally stuffed it so i need to just to a clean reinstall..
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: I've got an intel 3945abg..... worked out of box from dapper on up
[05:09] <swatF1RESTORM> what program can i use to play m4v video files from iTunes?
[05:09] <Imsdle> of apache2 that is
[05:09] <ryan__> neozen yeah my friends worked fine, his intel prosetwireless one
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: and was recognized by the kernel as exactly what it is
[05:09] <Music_Shuffle> swatF1RESTORM, have you tried MPlayer?
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: closed source driver... but WORKING driver
[05:10] <mongolai> Imsdle, first off, here is the link I used:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Apache_HTTP_Server_for_HTTP_.28Web.29_Server_service
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: lets see what we can do to get you set up
[05:10] <mongolai> it might just pertain to you too...
[05:10] <swatF1RESTORM> Music_Shuffle, when I try to load it into mplayer nothing happens
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: someone's probably duct-taped some solution together for this dell card
[05:10] <crapstick> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[05:10] <ryan__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 im reading through this, i assume itll work
[05:10] <ryan__> or at least  hopefully
[05:11] <neozen> ryan__: scoping out now
[05:11] <Imsdle> thank you
[05:11] <eternalswd> neozen, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092.  he's looking there right now
[05:11] <mongolai> Imsdle, try: sudo apt-get install apache2      once again. then we'll go fron there
[05:11] <neozen> as am I
[05:11] <raf256> what is the name of gui installer in ubuntu?  and is it frontend to apt-get or to aptitude?
[05:12] <ryan__> brb 1 sec
[05:12] <swatF1RESTORM> raf256, synaptic package manager i think
[05:12] <neozen> looks written properly from here
[05:12] <mongolai> hey everyone, what's the name of that pastbin link for configuration files?
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> does anybody know how to setup ssh x window forwarding via the command line?
[05:13] <neozen> steps make sense given all the pounding I've done on 43xx series cards
[05:13] <neozen> yurimxpxman: possibly
[05:13] <mootmoo76> hi room
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> neozen: is it a simple command? I've already got the ssh
[05:13] <Stoffer> is my processor supposed to max out every time I use flash in firefox?
[05:13] <tommy_> how to repair my ubuntu?
[05:13] <neozen> yurimxpxman: saw something on x11forwarding in the man page for ssh and openssh-server
[05:14] <neozen> yurimxpxman: probably be just what you're looking for
[05:14] <yurimxpxman> neozen: thanks. I'm looking now :-)
[05:14] <gavintlgold> anyone know of an ubuntu repository for cinerrella?
[05:14] <neozen> um.... jrib... what bug is that exactly?
[05:14] <jrib> neozen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[05:16] <neozen> interesting
[05:16] <Ravenndude`> Does kill not require root?
[05:16] <mongolai> so channel OPs don't stay that way here then?
[05:16] <gavintlgold> anyone have a repo for cinerrella?
[05:16] <tritium> Ravenndude`: depends on who owns the process you're trying to kill
[05:16] <neozen> Ravenndude`: you can kill any apps you started
[05:16] <Ravenndude`> ahh, that makes sence
[05:16] <neozen> Ravenndude`: root can kill anything
[05:17] <Ravenndude`> yes
[05:17] <neozen> Ravenndude`: most logical way to do it
[05:17] <Ravenndude`> yeah
[05:17] <neozen> Ravenndude`: most things in unixes makes perfectly logical sense if you look at them from an ancient security standpoint
[05:17] <chewy> seems libsocket is broken
[05:17] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[05:18] <Ravenndude`> lol
[05:18] <ChewY> chewy@bowcaster:~/testing$ gcc -I /usr/include/mysql -L /usr/include/mysql main.cc -lmysqlclient -lm -lnsl -lsocket -o cashmoney
[05:18] <ChewY> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsocket
[05:18] <neozen> Ravenndude`: ubuntu seems to migrate this up to a somewhat modern aspect on security regarding devices like cdrom drive, usb ports etc
[05:18] <Fezzler> Ubuntu annimation program?
[05:18] <Ravenndude`> Zentax-Work, try #mythtv
[05:18] <ChewY> any official word on libsocket-dev package
[05:18] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, is the kernel module loaded?
[05:19] <neozen> Zentax-Work: correct me if I'm wrong... but doesn't that card require a special module?
[05:19] <ChewY> cause my /usr/lib/ld is empty and i have happycoders-libsocket-dev package installed
[05:19] <Zentax-Work> Yes that is correct. And i followed the instructions to get this up and going
[05:19] <mongolai> Imsdle, you still having problems with apache2?
[05:19] <eternalswd> neozen, was that ryan fellow able to get his wireless working?  I had to step out due to a router bug :(
[05:20] <Zentax-Work> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI << located there
[05:20] <neozen> eternalswd: looks like he found a good tutorial
[05:20] <MTecknology> How do i set up my mic?
[05:20] <neozen> eternalswd: no word yet
[05:20] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, did you compile the MythTV sources yourself?
[05:20] <ChewY> Mtecknology: shove it up your ass
[05:20] <neozen> MTecknology: gnome-alsamixer
[05:20] <neozen> MTecknology: run that
[05:20] <Zentax-Work> mongolai: yes i did.. I have also tried MythDora with no luck had the same issue. Which is why we installed Ubuntu and then MythTV ourself
[05:20] <jrib> !CoC > ChewY (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:21] <ChewY> jrib sorry, i knew better
[05:21] <ChewY> couldn't resist
[05:21] <neozen> ChewY: ........you be nice... or I'll start looking around for my anvil
[05:21] <ChewY> seductive the dark side is
[05:21] <Tremitos> Hello
[05:21] <neozen> hoallo Tremitos
[05:21] <Fezzler> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Macromedia Director or Authorware or Toolbook
[05:21] <neozen> Fezzler: not to my knowledge
[05:21] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, it's almost certainly some obscure dependency issue. Perhaps try a MythTV Distro?
[05:22] <chronographer> Hello.  I have a weird 'thing' which happens to my sound.  I used to have a problem with debian etch, where when using mpd and maybe vlc, sonata would 'disconnect' from mpd and any other sound program would freeze up. This was fixed by a reboot. I never identified the problem and it was intermitten.  Now I have a fresh ubuntu feisty install and it just happened again.  Using only Sonata, i changed songs and it disconnected from mpd
[05:22] <Fezzler> Annimation program for Ubuntu?
[05:22] <eternalswd> Fezzler, likely not, you'd probably have to run something through wine
[05:22] <Fezzler> no wine
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> We are about to attempt to try KnoppMyth how-ever it seems KnoppMyth has issues detecting our SATA drives.. typical.
[05:22] <chronographer> theres a 3d modelling program
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> Ubuntu seems to see the card fine
[05:22] <neozen> mongolai: something wrong with the mythtv packages in the feisty repos?
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> dvb-usb: Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T successfully initialized and connected. << from dmesg
[05:22] <Fezzler> blender?
[05:22] <eternalswd> Fezzler, what kind of animation are you talking about, vector like flash?
[05:22] <yurimxpxman> neozen: I can't figure this out.. I think I have it enabled, but I don't know how to use it now.
[05:23] <Fezzler> ye
[05:23] <Fezzler> yes
[05:23] <mongolai> neozen, I don't know. I've never used it. I'm just sayin...
[05:23] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, do i want to select mic as output?
[05:23] <Fezzler> chrono: Blender, right?
[05:23] <Xello> hello
[05:23] <chronographer> yes
[05:23] <Xello> I used to be hansonry
[05:23] <neozen> yurimxpxman: ::nods:: yeah sorry... I've never done it just noticed the sections in the man pages
[05:23] <Fezzler> Steep learning curve
[05:23] <Xello> I found my problem
[05:23] <MatDanielMat> Q ident to channel howto
[05:23] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, isn't there a kernel boot parameter to help with that?
[05:23] <chronographer> i havent used it, or any animation progs tho
[05:23] <neozen> yurimxpxman: I'm sure there's a tutorial on it in the forums
[05:23] <eternalswd> Fezzler, you might look into the svg format, I believe that can be used for vector animation
[05:23] <ChewY> so
[05:24] <mongolai> ...on the Knoppix?
[05:24] <ChewY> anyone know whats up with libsocket on fiesty
[05:24] <ChewY> gcc ain't linking it
[05:24] <chronographer> surely theres plenty of documentation for blender, tuts on the net?
[05:24] <Xello> apperently I had to restart my router
[05:24] <Xello> it was droping packets from google
[05:24] <neozen> mongolai: where does one put custom boot parameters on ubuntu?
[05:24] <Delmar> I just re-installed vmware-server manually more or less following this here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto   -  and the weird networking issues I was having between host & guest are no longer an issue.  So the Automatix2 - vmware-server package on Feisty has a bug.
[05:24] <mongolai> ohhh, Blender! Perhaps more arcane than Emacs!
[05:24] <neozen> mongolai: haven't noticed a boot prompt
[05:24] <Zentax-Work> yes to add cx88_dvb to /etc/modules
[05:24] <Zentax-Work> which we did do
[05:24] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, I need to figure out how to set up my mic - idk if it's installed
[05:24] <Xello> thanks again mongolai and friends
[05:25] <chronographer> heh really!
[05:25] <Zentax-Work> how-ever when we do a lspci we shoudl see the card displayed there
[05:25] <Xello> whats wrong with blender
[05:25] <Zentax-Work> which we do not
[05:25] <Xello> ?
[05:25] <mongolai> neozen, hang on...
[05:25] <eternalswd> neozen, /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:25] <neozen> MTecknology: did you run gnome-alsamixer?
[05:25] <TaJMoX> emacs is way worse than blender
[05:25] <Xello> ya
[05:25] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, ya
[05:25] <neozen> mongolai: take your time
[05:25] <mongolai> notice how grub tends to count down for I think 3 seconds before booting?
[05:25] <neozen> MTecknology: and I'm neozen mon...
[05:25] <Fezzler> Nothing.  Blender is awesome.  Very high learning curve though for occasional user
[05:25] <Xello> my professer can use emacs like a god
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: keep hitting tab
[05:26] <Xello> its sick
[05:26] <MTecknology> neozen, lol - sorry
[05:26] <Xello> but cool
[05:26] <GeekMaster1> Hey all.
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: no worries ::Grins::
[05:26] <ChewY> xello, i code in nano
[05:26] <Xello> ya
[05:26] <Xello> no gui?
[05:26] <ChewY> no
[05:26] <mongolai> well, If you hit "Esc" during that time, you can enter manual *kernel* boot parameters.
[05:26] <Xello> why?
[05:26] <Fezzler> Yea, Blender is unbelievable sick
[05:26] <GeekMaster1> Wa wondering which was my IP address... inet addr orbcast?
[05:26] <ChewY> xello meh i like the old black and white stuff
[05:26] <chronographer> You need to have used progs like emacs, vi etc. for like 10 years before you can be fast at them i reckon
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: ok... make sure rec is checked for your mic and its un muted
[05:27] <Xello> Chewy: good enuf for me
[05:27] <MTecknology> done
[05:27] <neozen> MTecknology: then fire up audacity and try to record something
[05:27] <albertmk> how can I remove the password request on the starting of ubuntu?
[05:27] <neozen> MTecknology: you might need to install audacity
[05:27] <MatDanielMat> Quick Question how do i identify my self to a channel
[05:27] <ChewY> xello plus its harder, more challenging
[05:27] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[05:27] <Xello> Chewy: my prof can churn out work on console like nothing iv ever seen
[05:27] <mudman266> will wine allow me to browse a windows drive? if not, what would you recommend?
[05:27] <Xello> so if it works it works
[05:27] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:27] <MTecknology> neozen, yup- but it's a good prog ne way :P
[05:27] <ChewY> xello you don't always got a gui in the field
[05:27] <neozen> MatDanielMat: by identify do you mean set up a password/register your nick?
[05:27] <Xello> im addicted to ides
[05:28] <eternalswd> MatDanielMat, you mean like "/msg nickserv identify passwd"?
[05:28] <MatDanielMat> yes sir
[05:28] <Xello> IDEs
[05:28] <chronographer> mudman: a ntfs partition?
[05:28] <mudman266> chrono: yes
[05:28] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:28] <Xello> Chewy: good point
[05:28] <GeekMaster1> Does anyone know which one my IP address is? INET ADDR or BCAST?
[05:28] <MatDanielMat> im trying to get into #python and I can't get in
[05:28] <mister_roboto> ChewY: well if you're doing it professionally, no purpose is served by slowing yourself down by artificial challenges that make doing your job "harder"  :)
[05:28] <ChewY> xello also in my current project, i'm working with 20 meg txt files, and the console loads and moves around them MUCH faster
[05:28] <chronographer> you should mount it with fstab, using ntfs-3g.  Then you can write to it using gniome whatever/.
[05:28] <neozen> MatDanielMat: /msg nickserv register youremail yourpassword
[05:28] <mister_roboto> ChewY: better to get more real work done :)
[05:28] <neozen> MatDanielMat: then follow directions
[05:28] <chronographer> hang a sec ill point you to a guide
[05:29] <mudman266> thnx
[05:29] <MatDanielMat> thanx a million
[05:29] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:29] <Xello> mister_robot: if ChewY: got good at it he can be more productive
[05:29] <MTecknology> neozen, everything seems to freeze when i try to record
[05:29] <Toma-> albertmk: gnome or CLI?
[05:29] <albertmk> GNOME
[05:29] <neozen> MTecknology: O.o .... interesting
[05:29] <Xello> Iv seen people hall ass on console
[05:29] <ChewY> xello yeah, i won't have all the girls on aim bothering me
[05:29] <mister_roboto> Xello: i absolutely agree. but then you're not using it becasue it's "harder" or more "challenging"
[05:29] <chronographer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131&highlight=make+new+mounted+drive+read+write
[05:29] <albertmk> Toma, Gnome.
[05:29] <neozen> MTecknology: is this a known issue with your particular hardware?
[05:29] <Xello> lol
[05:29] <Toma-> albertmk: System > Admin > Login Window
[05:29] <GeekMaster1> Does anyone know which one my IP address is? INET ADDR or BCAST?
[05:29] <MTecknology> neozen, no idea
[05:30] <Xello> but their picures are fun to look at
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: what kind of soundcard is it?
[05:30] <ChewY> xello: and no work gets done
[05:30] <Toma-> albertmk: then its in the Security Tab
[05:30] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, not enough info.
[05:30] <mister_roboto> Xello: i'm a long long time unix/vi programmer. vi is in my fingers. but just saying if it's harder, meaning just making it harder to get work done, well... that's not useful
[05:30] <Xello> I know transfer it to ascii
[05:30] <eternalswd> albertmk, see http://blog.grprakash.com/2006/11/08/auto-login-in-ubuntu/
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: this information can be gotten from your computer manufacturer if its cherry hardware
[05:30] <MTecknology> neozen, SigmaTel STA9250
[05:30] <ChewY> mister_roboto: vi is rough
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: ok... good
[05:30] <Xello> mister_roboto: you have a good point, i missed that
[05:30] <mister_roboto> ChewY: it's great for touch typists though
[05:30] <ChewY> mister_roboto: gotta use letters to move around
[05:31] <neozen> MTecknology: scoping out ubuntuforums.org now
[05:31] <eternalswd> MTecknology, go to the terminal and open up alsamixer
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: but when you finally memorize a useful set of commands, your fingers rarely have to leave the home row
[05:31] <chronographer> vi is hard to learn.. nano has shortcuts at teh bottom, you need to read a manual for vi!
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: that's what makes it fast
[05:31] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, ubuntu doesn't seem to ship with "man sockets", so do a google search for that
[05:31] <MTecknology> eternalswd, and?
[05:31] <eternalswd> MTecknology, what is the input source?
[05:31] <Xello> well guys its been fun, but its sleepy time, got to go to work at 7:00 am
[05:31] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm trying to figure out my IP address so I type "ifconfig eth0 | grep inet" and i get "inet addr" and "bcast"
[05:31] <Xello> bye bye
[05:31] <ChewY> mister_roboto: good point, i might pick up on that martial art
[05:31] <MTecknology> eternalswd, mic
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: lol
[05:31] <neozen> MTecknology: hmm... nothing in the forums
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: giving google a shot
[05:32] <eternalswd> MTecknology, okay, now in alsamixer press F5
[05:32] <mister_roboto> ChewY: if you wanna be a programmer, it helps a LOT to learn to touch type
[05:32] <chronographer> inet add is your ip
[05:32] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i need a "balanced" keyboard, this one i got has weird page up and page down settings, throws me off all the time
[05:32] <eternalswd> MTecknology, what's the Capture volume set to?
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: are you sure that isn't a SigmaTel STAC9250?
[05:32] <MTecknology> 73
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: notice the c
[05:32] <GeekMaster1> chronographer: thank you
[05:32] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, hold on a sec...
[05:33] <ChewY> mister_roboto: when i get home from work, it totally messes up my flow
[05:33] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: ok
[05:33] <mister_roboto> ChewY: yeah, i understand that
[05:33] <albertmk> Toma, in security there is no option for that
[05:33] <MTecknology> neozen, ya, sry
[05:33] <ChewY> mister_roboto: then when i go to work, i'm thrown off again
[05:33] <neozen> MTecknology: lol... no problem
[05:33] <eternalswd> albertmk, did you look at http://blog.grprakash.com/2006/11/08/auto-login-in-ubuntu/ yet?
[05:33] <mister_roboto> ChewY: i have to say though, when i'm doing any java development, i've grown quite fond of eclipse
[05:33] <neozen> MTecknology: just seemed strange that NO ONE had had problems or posted a solution on that card yet
[05:34] <neozen> MTecknology: every time I've had an issue.. the ubuntuforums have already had something on it
[05:34] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, OK, are you on some uni or work network?
[05:34] <ChewY> mister_roboto: you know anything about whats up with libsocket in fiesty
[05:34] <neozen> MTecknology: or at the very least, someone else had had the same problem and were unable to fix it
[05:34] <mister_roboto> ChewY: sorry, no
[05:34] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i NEED those headers
[05:34] <Perdente> what program do you get so that you can record what is going on, on your monitor?
[05:34] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: i'm on a college campus, yes
[05:34] <MTecknology> neozen, i'm probably the first to hit this problem
[05:35] <MTecknology> on this card i mena
[05:35] <MTecknology> mean*
[05:35] <mongolai> well, ok. Try this to get your external IP address: http://ipaddress.com/
[05:35] <ChewY> mister_roboto: looks like gcc config is broken or the headers arn't where they need to be
[05:35] <mongolai> ...more in a minute...
[05:35] <roads-02> gsfattrj
[05:35] <roads-02> ggagjjdj
[05:35] <roads-02> kamu ghe
[05:35] <roads-02> uugduhia
[05:36] <eternalswd> MTecknology, which version of alsa do you have?
[05:36] <mister_roboto> ChewY: /usr/include/sys/socket.h?
[05:36] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, you there?
[05:36] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: Thank you. Do you know how to figure out my subnet? eg: 192.168.(something).(something)?
[05:36] <neozen> MTecknology: indeed.... laptop came w/ vista I take it?
[05:36] <mongolai> yes...
[05:36] <doms> any body can help me?  i wondering why my firefox starting to download my  http://localhost/testphp.php
[05:36] <neozen> MTecknology: might be brand freaking new
[05:36] <ChewY> mister_roboto: /usr/bin/ld
[05:37] <neozen> MTecknology: quite possibly could have NO driver other then a vista driver
[05:37] <mongolai> you are inet addr. Bcast is a mask.
[05:37] <neozen> ....a sobering thought indeed
[05:37] <mister_roboto> ChewY: you saying you can't find libsock?
[05:37] <neozen> google only shows two results for it
[05:37] <doms> any body can help me?  i wondering why my firefox starting to download my  http://localhost/testphp.php
[05:37] <ChewY> mister_roboto: yeah
[05:37] <eternalswd> doms, sounds like apache isn't configured to use php
[05:37] <mongolai> ...sorry bcast is probably your router.
[05:37] <neozen> ....sure sign of new hardware
[05:37] <MTecknology> neozen, thank god not... Gateway M285-E Tablet PC
[05:38] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/ZoEywO83.html    here is my pastebin
[05:38] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: which one? My inet addr and bcast are two different values. Which one is my subnet mask?
[05:38] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i've installed happy-coders-libsock and -dev
[05:38] <mister_roboto> hmmm...
[05:38] <neozen> holy crud
[05:39] <mongolai> wait, you want a subnet mask, or *your computer's* personal  LAN address?
[05:39] <neozen> might need to patch your kernel
[05:39] <MTecknology> it's a piece of shit computer w/ no supported hardware
[05:39] <neozen> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kernel.general/2007-02/msg00006.html
[05:39] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm here
[05:39] <neozen> I'm scoping that out right now
[05:39] <MTecknology> I'll never choose to use a gateway computer again after this
[05:39] <neozen> ...looks to be a kernel patch
[05:39] <k-os> someone direct me to the RT2500 installation guide, if there is one?
[05:39] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/ZoEywO83.html    here is my pastebin
[05:39] <k-os> it's a wireless card, built on that module
[05:39] <__hase> I'm having a ton of trouble trying to install ubuntu on my neighbors computer
[05:39] <eternalswd> doms, not sure what to tell you then
[05:40] <Pie-rate> sound isn't working in teamspeak. I'm running it in aoss
[05:40] <mongolai> ifconfig will tell you your subnet mask. It's the one labeled "Mask:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[05:40] <doms> eternalswd: do u have idea how to config my apache2
[05:40] <Pie-rate> other things work
[05:40] <eternalswd> doms, and you don't need to paste the same thing every minute.
[05:40] <ChewY> mister_roboto: when i try to install from source i get another error
[05:40] <Pie-rate> but TS2 isn't
[05:40] <mister_roboto> ChewY: install what from source?
[05:40] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm using a tutorial to get my LAN working on VirtualBox. Does'nt the luink you give me show me my EXTERNAL IP address? Shouldn't I be using my internal IP address for the tutorial? The tutorial tells me to"Next, you need to replace <vbox_ip> with an IP that is within your subnet." Use the BCAST for that?
[05:40] <Pie-rate> it also crashes when i try to exit it
[05:40] <ChewY> mister_roboto: libsocket
[05:41] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, what kind of problems??
[05:41] <mongolai> ..your computer is "inet addr", and Bcast is most likely your router.
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: this is why I do SERIOUS research into a laptop before I buy it...
[05:41] <eternalswd> doms, there should be an httpd.conf or apache.conf file somewhere. try to run locate for those files.
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: everything in there better support linux
[05:41] <mister_roboto> ChewY: this is interesting. i had no idea that there was anything odd with socket libs on feisty
[05:41] <__hase> well, I go to start/install and it always says something about hdc timeout
[05:41] <navets> how do you link to something using href? i have my stuff in a directory called testing and my file is called blog.html
[05:41] <doms> eternalswd: oki then i'll show  how they config
[05:41] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, does live disk run???
[05:41] <__hase> yea
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: as a result... my first laptop purchase supported ubuntu dapper out of the box
[05:41] <__hase> wait
[05:42] <__hase> no
[05:42] <eternalswd> MTecknology, which version of alsa do you have again I may have missed your answer?
[05:42] <ChewY> mister_roboto: socket.hh:186: error: extra qualification 'Network::Socket::' on member '_check_answer'
[05:42] <navets> would it be: <a href="blog.html">Blog</a>
[05:42] <MTecknology> neozen, It was something my university said we HAVE to use
[05:42] <neozen> MTecknology: indeed ...what version of alsa?
[05:42] <__hase> Just up to the point where it asks if I want to install, check for errors, and do a memory test
[05:42] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, I don't know this VirtualBox, but your comp's address *within* your subnet is almost certainly the "inet addr"
[05:42] <MTecknology> eternalswd, how do i find out?
[05:42] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i should have gone with freebsd heh, i just might
[05:42] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, so live disk does give u the demo, but crashes on install?
[05:42] <neozen> MTecknology: this patch I was referring to might be in alsa 1.0.14 final
[05:42] <c00i90wn> does anyone know how to rotate the beryl cube with keyshortcuts but don't stop on the top/bottom caps?
[05:42] <eternalswd> MTecknology, quickest way is to open up synaptic and search for alsa-base
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: and thus possibly in all future versions
[05:43] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: so if the tutorial says "Next, you need to replace <vbox_ip> with an IP that is within your subnet. It doesn't matter what it is, I use 192.168.1.161" and my BCAST says 10.100.678.987, use 10.100.168.(anything)?
[05:43] <Frogzoo> c00i90wn: disabling top/bottom faces is in options
[05:43] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/X1EI9O75.html
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: get to a terminal and type aptitude show alsa-base
[05:43] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: but that disables it for mouse rotation
[05:43] <MTecknology> 1.0.13-3ubuntu1
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: also make sure you've upgraded all your packages to latest version
[05:44] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: unless I'm not looking at the right place
[05:44] <ChewY> i might be doing something wrong
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: sudo aptitude update
[05:44] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: but looked for it several times
[05:44] <ChewY> ./configure make make install
[05:44] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, yea that link was for the external network address. the WAN side.
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:44] <ChewY> is what i'm running
[05:44] <mongolai> ...
[05:44] <GeekMaster1> ok. Thank you mongolai.
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: if it looks like it wants to install a new kernel, install the kernel and reboot
[05:44] <mongolai> ...Aside from that, I can't really help you because I don't know the VBox thing.
[05:44] <MTecknology> neozen, is apt-get good enough?
[05:44] <daquino> how do i get sound in flash 9 firefox
[05:45] <k1gwb> Is there any way to 'turn on' visual feedback when entering a password into sudo?
[05:45] <neozen> MTecknology: yes ... for this purpose apt-get is just fine
[05:45] <Pie-rate> WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY doesn't teamspeak work?
[05:45] <neozen> MTecknology: since you won't be removing the updates you get
[05:45] <lo4fer> how many lines of code in the recent versions of linux kernels approximately
[05:45] <MTecknology> nothing to install
[05:45] <neozen> lo4fer: would you like english or metric?
[05:45] <doms> eternalswd: heres from httpd.conf  http://rafb.net/p/dHsKew73.html
[05:45] <greg_g> !dvd
[05:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:45] <mongolai> lo4fer, you really want to know?
[05:46] <neozen> lo4fer: a shit-ton or a metric-assload respectively
[05:46] <Goetmet> has anyone installed the new compiz fusion ?
[05:46] <vzduch> *omfg*
[05:46] <ChewY> such a waste of time, i need to bump out this msql code, and ubuntu is bugged
[05:46] <vlt> can't get usb headphone to work with firefox
[05:47] <vzduch> USB headphones? *shudder*
[05:47] <ChewY> mysql*
[05:47] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, did that help? I hope you get it figured out. You should check out:   insecure.org   to learn more about IP address..
[05:47] <neozen> vlt: indeed
[05:47] <vlt> every thing works but firefox
[05:47] <vzduch> headphones are supposed to be connected to the soundcard, not to USB..
[05:47] <doms> eternalswd: did you get the pastebin
[05:47] <vlt> these work with skype
[05:47] <lo4fer> yes i would like to know
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: is that that one they have on their site for 9.99?
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: they don't show the jack in the pic
[05:48] <vlt> no their not usb
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: good
[05:48] <eternalswd> doms, yes, go to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_PHP_for_Apache_HTTP_Server and make sure you've done everything to test it.
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: I'll probably be buying that one when I finally do get a headset
[05:48] <trpr> vzduch: i dunno. if they don't require their own soundcard i can see where they might have their use
[05:49] <neozen> vlt: usb headsets just seem....... not right to me
[05:49] <doms> eternalswd: ok then  talk to you later
[05:49] <neozen> vlt: I see too much potential for kaboom
[05:49] <Goetmet> any compiz comp/compiz fusion user here?
[05:49] <doms> eternalswd: anyway i'am using feisty fawn verion
[05:49] <neozen> Goetmet: try #ubuntu-effects
[05:49] <vlt> usb mic works, other mic doesn't
[05:49] <__hase> Goetmet: Does Beryl count?
[05:49] <neozen> Goetmet: you're bound to find everyone running EVERYTHING there
[05:50] <Goetmet> ok thanks neozen
[05:50] <eternalswd> MTecknology, you may want to compile alsa for yourself.  I've got a Sigmatel STAC9221 and support in 1.0.14 is better.
[05:50] <neozen> Goetmet: that's the channel for beryl/compix thingies
[05:50] <MTecknology> eternalswd, dload from source?
[05:50] <neozen> eternalswd: yay.... someone who can fix!
[05:50] <neozen> MTecknology: aye
[05:50] <neozen> MTecknology: download from source
[05:50] <MTecknology> ... fun
[05:51] <neozen> MTecknology: need help walking through compiling the module?
[05:51] <mister_roboto> ChewY: the socket functions are in libc
[05:51] <vzduch> as for building from src.. I chose to build Audacious myself.. the build in backports is outdated, and sid packages won't install
[05:51] <neozen> sounds like he's done it himself
[05:51] <MTecknology> neozen, i'll try it out
[05:51] <eternalswd> MTecknology, you want alsa-driver alsa-utils and alsa-lib
[05:52] <b33r> Is there a program to encrypt/decrypt RC4 on ubuntu?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: I built mplayer from source forever
[05:52] <vzduch> what's RC4?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: this is when it wasn't in the repositories
[05:52] <ChewY> mister_roboto: package name?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: md5 I think
[05:52] <crimsun> eternalswd: gateways need current alsa-kernel hg.  alsa-driver 1.0.14 is insufficient.
[05:52] <MTecknology> eternalswd, any direct links? :P
[05:52] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: you sure "BCAST" is my subnet mask?
[05:53] <crimsun> further, only alsa-kernel and alsa-driver are necessary.  Don't touch alsa-lib and alsa-utils.
[05:53] <neozen> O.o another one wading in...
[05:53] <neozen> MTecknology: I think its gonna be ok
[05:53] <vlt> any ideas on the firefox/flash audio?
[05:53] <mister_roboto> you should have it with the base system (the library)   it's needed by almost everything
[05:53] <MTecknology> neozen, ?
[05:53] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, no. that's your gateway. "Mask:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" is your subnet mask.
[05:53] <mister_roboto> ChewY: i wrote a simple program that created a socket and it linked without specifying any libs at all
[05:53] <neozen> MTecknology: talk to crimsun he'll probably be FAR more help then I
[05:53] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i just got it to a compile doing the same thing
[05:54] <mister_roboto> ChewY: then i googled a bit and it said on linux the socket functions are part of libc
[05:54] <JerseyMonkey> I have a tv tuner in my pcmia slot, and I was recomended installing TvTime. It seems to detect the card at /dev/video0, but I cannot get it to play component cable. How do I tell it to read the component cable, or is there another app I should be using?
[05:54] <eternalswd> MTecknology, yep, seems to know more than me as well
[05:54] <mongolai> Ignore loopback
[05:54] <mister_roboto> ChewY: well there you go :)   they are not in a separate library here
[05:54] <mongolai> or device lo
[05:54] <ChewY> mister_roboto: libc == c STL?
[05:54] <Toulouse> ey guys, i just got a new hdd, but i want to clone the hdd i have running ubuntu and put it on that hdd, how do i do this?
[05:55] <MTecknology> crimsun, you have any easy way to get me the newest alsa?
[05:55] <Toulouse> basically, how do i make a  backup of this hard drive on the new one?
[05:55] <mister_roboto> ChewY: no, not stl.   stl is mostly all templates in header files
[05:55] <crimsun> MTecknology: it's fairly straightforward.  Install the following packages: build-essential mercurial autoconf automake1.7
[05:55] <neozen> easy... and kernel module compilation .... don't seem negotiated in my mind
[05:55] <neozen> ...yet
[05:55] <ChewY> mister_roboto: thx, this will be enough to get me going tomorrow
[05:56] <vlt> can't get usb headphone to work with firefox
[05:56] <Toulouse> what is the recommended way to back up a complete harddrive on another?
[05:56] <neozen> chewy: I think the stl is libc++std or something like that
[05:56] <Toulouse> he's gone
[05:56] <crimsun> MTecknology: next, execute: hg clone http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver && hg clone http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
[05:56] <Ainokea> hi
[05:57] <cafuego> Toulouse: Depends. If you need a complete mirror inc partitons, dd or partimage or somesuch. If all you need is the data, rsync.
[05:57] <neozen> never heard of hg before
[05:57] <Ainokea> I cant seem to figure out why ubuntu wont start... any suggestions?
[05:57] <cafuego> mercurial - versioning syste,
[05:57] <crimsun> MTecknology: next, execute: cd alsa-driver && ./hgcompile --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install-modules
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: what's your ram situation?
[05:57] <vzduch> neozen: libstdc++
[05:57] <Ainokea> 2 gigs
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: how much have you got?
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: hmmmm
[05:57] <Toulouse> cafuego: i want to make the other hard drive exacltly like the one i have, but the other (new) one has more capacity
[05:57] <crimsun> MTecknology: after all those steps complete, you should reboot.
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Ainokea, what exactly is going wrong?
[05:57] <cafuego> s/versioning/yet another - why exactly do we need so many/
[05:58] <neozen> Ainokea: any scary text on startup?
[05:58] <eternalswd> Toulouse, you could look at http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[05:58] <Ainokea> well I'm trying to install it
[05:58] <MTecknology> crimsun, how long doesw it take to do that first command?
[05:58] <neozen> Ainokea: think bright red flashy things
[05:58] <MTecknology> "adding file changes"
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Ainokea, and what happens?
[05:58] <mongolai> Ainokea, probably an ACPI or APIC issue...
[05:58] <neozen> apic?
[05:58] <Ainokea> I set start ubuntu and install
[05:58] <cafuego> Toulouse: I'd probably go with rsync, and just copy the data onto new empty aprtitions.
[05:58] <mongolai> ...nevermind...
[05:59] <Ainokea> then it goes to the screen that says ubuntu and progress bar. It just stops there
[05:59] <MTecknology> crimsun, nevermind it moved - i'll try that all out :)
[05:59] <eternalswd> neozen, MTecknology, well, I'm out of here, got some other things to do.
[05:59] <neozen> cafuego: we need many ...because that's the nature of good software
[05:59] <neozen> cafuego: choice
[05:59] <MTecknology> eternalswd, aight, ty
[05:59] <Ainokea> any suggestions?
[05:59] <neozen> imho
[05:59] <vzduch> btw.. I haven't found out yet how to pass options to the livecd kernel on boot
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: you can't
[06:00] <vzduch> what?
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: use the alternate cd
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: kills the whole boot-promt necessity
[06:00] <neozen> *prompt
[06:00] <mongolai> vzduch, there's an option for that. Hit an arrow key to stop the timer then read the screen. I don't remember what it says...
[06:00] <vzduch> would be good for troubleshooting if you could at least choose to boot w/o splash
[06:00] <neozen> O.o
[06:01] <mongolai> ...but there is an option to edit the command line.
[06:01] <vzduch> which is?
[06:02] <GeekMaster1> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP EVERYONE
[06:02] <RoC_MM> you read the bottom of the screen
[06:02] <mongolai> hmmm, maybe "e" for edit. I'n not sure, but it's there
[06:02] <RoC_MM> it's like F something
[06:02] <Ainokea> should I try to use a differnet method ot install ubuntu?
[06:03] <neozen> Ainokea: I would
[06:03] <vzduch> I read something like that in the help screen, but it doesn't say how to edit the boot line
[06:03] <neozen> Ainokea: try the alternate install
[06:03] <sinep> HAAALP
[06:03] <RoC_MM> yeah
[06:03] <RoC_MM> it shows the boot line on the screen
[06:03] <javadan> Hello
[06:03] <RoC_MM> then you edit it with the keyboard
[06:03] <mongolai> vzduch, it guides you through it when you hit whatever key needs to be hit
[06:03] <neozen> sinep: no drowning here you!
[06:03] <Ainokea> k
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> I'm afraid if I use Linux too much, I will forget how to use Windows and appear retarded in front of others.
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> im being serious
[06:04] <sinep> :)
[06:04] <neozen> NeoGeo64: lol
[06:04] <vzduch> *omfg*
[06:04] <roho> that's hilarious
[06:04] <neozen> NeoGeo64: been ls'ing at dos prompt have we?
[06:04] <roho> but it's happened to me
[06:04] <vzduch> NeoGeo64: I'd worry 'bout somethin' else..
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> neozen, actually, YES!
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> i have
[06:04] <sinep> Okie dokie.
[06:05] <neozen> common issue
[06:05] <NeoGeo64> i forget to type dir in dos alot.
[06:05] <RoC_MM> NeoGeo64, just act snide like some of the Mac people.  Tell them you've reached enlightenment.
[06:05] <neozen> hell
[06:05] <sinep> I need to find the my iPood so that I can mount it.
[06:05] <neozen> tell them you RUN enlightenment
[06:05] <sinep> Can ya help me?
[06:05] <RoC_MM> yeah
[06:05] <PanzerMKZ> I type ls at the dos prompt all the time
[06:05] <javadan> I reached enlightenment with my Mac and installed Linux.
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> but am wondering what to put in xorg.conf for a Matrox G450
[06:06] <TaRDy> Hey using ubuntu 7.04 x64, I'm having issues viewing flash, I was told to use nspluginwrapper is this right?
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> for the drivers
[06:06] <neozen> NeoGeo64: and when they look confused give them this url: http://enlightenment.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> vid drive
[06:06] <neozen> NeoGeo64: and grin
[06:06] <plastikmatik> when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it tries to upgrade some packages that i dont want to.... how can i prevent apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade some packages that i dont want to upgrade?
[06:06] <neozen> javadan: I've known quite a few people who just installed an x server and gnome
[06:06] <neozen> javadan: on top of mac os
[06:06] <sinep> Hmmm
[06:07] <neozen> sinep: yeah we can help
[06:07] <neozen> sinep: soon as you ask a question
[06:07] <NeoGeo64> ls is better than dir
[06:07] <plastikmatik> any ideas?
[06:07] <NeoGeo64> dir is 3 letters
[06:07] <sinep> I did. It an extremely easy question.
[06:07] <neozen> plastikmatik: I don't think it works like that
[06:07] <Vich> doskey ls=dir
[06:07] <neozen> plastikmatik: which packages are you looking to avoid?
[06:07] <javadan> neozen: I installed linux on my old iBook- worked pretty good.
[06:07] <sinep> I need to find where a usb device is located so I can mount it.
[06:08] <neozen> sinep: are you in graphical ubuntu?
[06:08] <sinep> Kubuntu does not appear to auto-mount things and it is helluva lot differnt than Arch.
[06:08] <IcemanV9> NeoGeo64: alias dir=ls in your terminal ... that way you won't forget ;)
[06:08] <sinep> neozen: Yes.
[06:08] <plastikmatik> neozen : linux-generic linux-headers-2.6.20-16 linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:08] <neozen> sinep: OHHH you're in kubuntu
[06:08] <plastikmatik> neozen : lol, everything that starts with linux-*
[06:08] <vzduch> Kubuntu does auto-mount things.. worked w/ my Samsung MP3 player ever since
[06:08] <javadan> I am having problems printing to an hp3650 from my linux box via Samba. Connects okay, print job appears, but printer then hangs.  Driver issue?
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: something wrong with the new kernel?
[06:09] <sinep> Hmm
[06:09] <plastikmatik> neozen : i just want to keep things as they are
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: .................
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: then don't do a dist-upgrade
[06:09] <sinep> vzduch: It doesn't auto-mount anything for me.
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: things will remain EXACTLY as they are
[06:09] <plastikmatik> sometimes when i upgrade my kernel the video card stop working
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: AH
[06:09] <plastikmatik> neozen : i want to dist-upgrade all packages less those ones
[06:09] <sinep> ...
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: that can be fixed
[06:10] <plastikmatik> is there some way to do that ?
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: laptop?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> yes
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: thinkpad?
[06:10] <sinep> There isn't a command to display where it is at?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> no, dell
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: or late model dell
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: intel945gm
[06:10] <vzduch> sinep: a hot-plugged USB storage device should be shown as an icon on the desktop or in Konqueror -> Storage media
[06:10] <plastikmatik> ati
[06:10] <plastikmatik> x1300
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: breaks when you hit the brightness keys?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> nope
[06:10] <plastikmatik> it's ok right now
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: screen goes blank?
[06:11] <neozen> plastikmatik: on the newest kernel I mean
[06:11] <plastikmatik> since my kernel is running perfect, i dont want to upgrade it
[06:11] <neozen> plastikmatik: can't do that
[06:11] <plastikmatik> so i cant dist-upgrade all packages less a few ones ?
[06:13] <plastikmatik> that i specify
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: nope
[06:13] <plastikmatik> mm ok, an alternative could be just to install the new kernel but not using it ?
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: code it.... and resolve dependencies sanely... and you will be as god
[06:13] <plastikmatik> the new kernel wont replace my current one right?
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: problem lies in newer packages which REQUIRE that newer kernel
[06:13] <plastikmatik> hmmm
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: happens quite frequently in a dist upgrade
[06:13] <plastikmatik> grrrrrr
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: lol
[06:13] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: just upgrade your distro
[06:13] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: and we'll fix what breaks
[06:13] <plastikmatik> lol
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: you're not in xubuntu right?
[06:13] <plastikmatik> no
[06:13] <plastikmatik> ubuntu feisty
[06:13] <vzduch> plastikmatik: the new kernel will be added to your Grub (or Lilo), you can still boot the old kernel unless you explicitly uninstall it
[06:13] <doms> anybody can hep my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: ..................then don't upgrade
[06:13] <doms> anybody can hel my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: you shouldn't need to upgrade at all if you're running feisty
[06:13] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: dist upgrade anyway
[06:14] <neozen> plastikmatik: feisty is latest version
[06:14] <MrOtacon> hey guys - i need help fast... how do you kill a task from in the console?
[06:14] <Ravenndude`> What's better for playing DVDs, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[06:14] <neozen> kill
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: kill
[06:14] <MrOtacon> neozen: Just Kill - Then task name?
[06:14] <LCCUB> MrOtacon: do ps x, get the PID of the task and then kill it
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: kill -9 pidofprogramtokill
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: you need its pid
[06:14] <vzduch> Ravenndude`: use whatever pleases you
[06:14] <SperMite_> anyone using amarok on ubuntu feisty>
[06:14] <TaJMoX> How do I use an image as the panel background in XFCE ?
[06:15] <MrOtacon> neozen: Ok - thanks man
[06:15] <k1gwb> SperMite_: i am
[06:15] <neozen> Ravenndude`: I use mplayer personally
[06:15] <neozen> Ravenndude`: mplayer-nogui specifically
[06:15] <MTecknology> crimsun, my progs still freeze/crash when i try to record
[06:15] <upfwnv03> MrOtacon you can also do a kill -KILL <pidofprogramtokill>
[06:15] <SperMite_> k1gwb have any problems getting it setup?
[06:15] <brianm_> HEy all. Is it possible to do a 6.06 LTS to 6.10 upgrade without X? (ie, update-manager)
[06:16] <neozen> brianm_: yes
[06:16] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:16] <crimsun> MTecknology: are you actually setting an element to Capture _and_ unmuting Capture?
[06:16] <neozen> brianm_: something like sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:16] <MTecknology> crimsun, .... don't know
[06:16] <neozen> ...make that apt-get
[06:16] <Ravenndude`> The reason I ask is because totem automatically plays the movie when I insert a disc, but when I try to open totem and play the disc it says I need a plug in. VLC plays it fine, but about once every two min for ten seconds, I have no sound
[06:16] <crimsun> MTecknology: then no, you're not.  Do so.
[06:16] <brianm_> neozen: neozen doesn't do the distriubtion
[06:17] <torpedo|dog> Is anybody here familiar with the ipw4965
[06:17] <MTecknology> crimsun, .........
[06:17] <vzduch> neozen: aptitude is just fine
[06:17] <brianm_> there are various instructions around but they all say "beware, dragons be thar!"
[06:17] <neozen> brianm_: eh?
[06:17] <LCCUB> jrib: if you're there thanks again for the alias thing, been using it a ton :)
[06:17] <torpedo|dog> oops, the ipw4965 network cards. Can they use ipw3945?
[06:17] <neozen> brianm_: are you running xubuntu or something?
[06:17] <neozen> torpedo|dog: ...um... yes
[06:17] <vzduch> neozen, brianm_: don't forget to adjust /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly before doing so
[06:17] <brianm_> neozen: right now, 6.06 LTS server
[06:17] <neozen> torpedo|dog: they work just fine out of box
[06:18] <neozen> brianm_: there we go....
[06:18] <brianm_> ?
[06:19] <torpedo|dog> neozen: not this one, it's a Thinkpad T41 with a 4965 card that does not work.
[06:19] <TaRDy> im looking in synaptic and cant find nspluginwrapper
[06:19] <brianm_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[06:19] <brianm_> for instance
[06:19] <neozen> torpedo|dog: oh wait.... you asked about 4965
[06:19] <idr0p> was the beryl install hard/
[06:19] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:20] <torpedo|dog> neozen: yeah, that 1020 makes all the difference:(
[06:20] <ivanAlvarez> , does anyone know about a good tutorial to install compiz-fusion?
[06:20] <neozen> indeed
[06:20] <neozen> torpedo|dog: sorry for the misunderstanding
[06:20] <torpedo|dog> Should I just go the ndiswrapper route for now, do you think?
[06:20] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: ask the people in #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <torpedo|dog> neozen: it's all good; that's the type of misreading I'd make :P
[06:21] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: they handle all the beryl/compiz support
[06:21] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: thank you
[06:21] <neozen> torpedo|dog: why cant the world be like ubuntu and use names for versions instead of numbers
[06:21] <torpedo|dog> well
[06:21] <neozen> feisty, dapper, edgy etc is SOO MUCH LESS ERROR PRONE
[06:21] <neozen> lol
[06:21] <brianm_> neozen: hmm, does it really need desktop installed? it is a headless server...
[06:22] <neozen> desktop?
[06:22] <vzduch> neozen: most distros do have names.. only they don't use them in public
[06:22] <brianm_> "The appropriate desktop package for your version of Ubuntu must also be installed. "
[06:22] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:22] <neozen> brianm_: its trying to install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:22] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:22] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:22] <brianm_> neozen: I really don't want to
[06:22] <neozen> brianm_: perfectly understandable
[06:22] <brianm_> doms: best way to install apache+php is not to use ones produced by packagers
[06:23] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to delete a root folder ( realplay ) on my desktop
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: find the eye for your particular server and poke it
[06:23] <brianm_> neozen: ?
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: ignore that message
[06:23] <brianm_> :-)
[06:23] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: no one answers
[06:23] <neozen> brianm_: and just keep going with the install
[06:23] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to delete a root folder ( realplay ) on my desktop
[06:24] <crimsun> MTecknology: look at your `amixer`
[06:24] <Defdef> Hello, I am trying to install ATI drivers that are located on my desktop. I am new to linux. I am in konsole, and know the command to run the file, but how to I browse to it's location in Konsole? Is it home/desktop?
[06:24] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: ......... well... its not exactly business hours in there I suppose
[06:24] <vzduch> doms: no duplicate lines plz.. you won't be overlooked if there is someone who can help :)
[06:24] <javadan> moustafa: use sudo
[06:24] <ivanAlvarez> lol
[06:24] <moustafa> How
[06:24] <Pie-rate> is there an open source alternative to ventrilo and teamspeak?
[06:24] <moustafa> Can you tell me what can i type in tremenal?
[06:24] <vzduch> sudo rm -rf ~/Desktop/$nameOfFolder/
[06:25] <neozen> doms: I had no problems getting apache2 and php working with the ubuntu packages
[06:25] <moustafa> Thank you
[06:25] <neozen> doms: worked just fine for me
[06:25] <neozen> doms: what exactly are you doing that's so special?
[06:25] <javadan> moustafa: without knowing exactly what you're deleting it would be something like "sudo rm blah".  Type your root password when prompted.  Make sure you know what you're deleting first.
[06:25] <neozen> doms: summarize its good for you
[06:26] <Defdef> Anyone?
[06:26] <linax> hello
[06:26] <predaeus_> Pie-rate, the Jabber protocol has an extension or something for voice, not sure what jabber client and server supports it though
[06:26] <javadan> Hello linax
[06:26] <LCCUB> Defdef: /username/home/desktop/filename
[06:27] <vzduch> Defdef: usually it'd be /home/$username/Desktop/
[06:27] <LCCUB> oops I switched it sorry
[06:27] <vzduch> LCCUB: don't spread misinformation, m8 :D
[06:27] <LCCUB> too tired
[06:27] <Pie-rate> predaeus_: this is for organizing a group of people in an MMO, and i HATE HATE HATE HATE BOTH ventrilo AND teamspeak.
[06:27] <linax> ok so a friend of mine has posted up something on the ubuntu forums if you guys happen to be using DSP-500 you may find it handy :) I know i did
[06:27] <njero> Hi all, I have Feisty, everytime I boot things work but the boot sits for a long time (20 seconds?) on "Checking File Systems" at the message "fsck 1.40-WIP checking file systems". This is after it has checked the main root fs. Any ideas on how to make that faster. I have a secondary partition which is 40 megs of fat32
[06:27] <Pie-rate> predaeus_: so it has to be something that multiple people can use at once
[06:27] <linax> could use skype =/
[06:27] <neozen> doms: install libapache2-mod-php5
[06:28] <mongolai> is there a kubuntu channel?
[06:28] <javadan> I have an hp3650 running on a winxp box that I'm using Samba to connect to; it connects great but the print jobs hang the printer.  Any ideas?
[06:28] <neozen> doms: and force restart of apache
[06:28] <njero> javadan, have you tried cups?
[06:28] <doms> neozen: yeah even in my edgy  version i did successly install those things but in my feisty  i dont know  but my pastebin looks ok
[06:28] <freeagy> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz @ 1.63GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 76.5% free]  disk[Total : 361.05GB, 94.10% Free]  video[10de:0193]  sound[] 
[06:28] <doms> neozen:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:28] <neozen> doms: install libapache2-mod-php5
[06:29] <mongolai> Defdef, i haven't used KDE in years, but desktop might be a hidden file
[06:29] <linax> so for anyone interested..........
[06:29] <linax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480930
[06:29] <doms> neozen:  yes i done that mod-php5 see my pastebin
[06:29] <neozen> doms: hmm... interesting
[06:29] <linax> it does work as i tried it out myself :)
[06:29] <rondinelli> alguem do brasil pode me ajudar?
[06:29] <mongolai> ... that is something like ".desktop" <- notice the preceding *dot* character
[06:29] <yurimxpxman> doms: are you trying to get php working in apache?
[06:29] <linax> gets the inline control working on the dsp 500
[06:29] <kdiggdy> how do i get to the control center?
[06:30] <neozen> yurimxpxman: yeah looks like
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman: yes
[06:30] <mongolai> kdiggdy, gnome?
[06:30] <kdiggdy> yea
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:30] <vzduch> freeagy: #debian exists =D
[06:30] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo aptitude install php5-apache2-mod-bt
[06:30] <dmordan> Hello all.  Anyone familar with connecting evolution to exchange?
[06:30] <neozen> doms: in the future... just tell it to install LAMP packages when you install ubuntu
[06:30] <linax> is there a way to see users in here using xchat?
[06:30] <Arenlor> I'm trying to use Pidgin but when I go to connect to MSN it complains about not having the SSL libraries and I can't find them in the synaptic package manager, or at least I don't know what to look for, any help?
[06:30] <mongolai> use the menu editor if it's not currently installd
[06:30] <neozen> doms: will make your life one hell of a lot easier
[06:30] <kdiggdy> mongolai, yea
[06:30] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:30] <vzduch> linax: what for?
[06:31] <mongolai> wait, what?
[06:31] <kdiggdy> mongolai, how do i get to the menu editor?
[06:31] <javadan> njero: No, I have not tried CUPS yet. I didn't see any reason why it shouldn't work.  The print job appears in the spooler on the xp box, but hangs the print when the service hits it.
[06:31] <vzduch> kdiggdy: in Gnome, right-click the menu
[06:31] <neozen> yurimxpxman: bittorrent.....?
[06:31] <doms> yurimxpxman:  access for bittorent
[06:31] <mongolai> in GNOME go to "system/preferences/main menu"
[06:31] <yurimxpxman> neozen, doms: it works :-P
[06:32] <doms> yurimxpxman:  let me try
[06:32] <neozen> yurimxpxman: now that's funny
[06:32] <njero> javadan, in feisty I ended using a different driver than the default for my pcl 5. Might want to read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-109162.html
[06:32] <yurimxpxman> neozen: I know, but it works :-P
[06:32] <kdiggdy> mongolai, im there now
[06:32] <neozen> no doubt
[06:32] <neozen> ...that's... broken
[06:32] <javadan> njero: Thanks much; I'll have a look.
[06:32] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ahahah
[06:32] <kdiggdy> got it thanks :)
[06:32] <mongolai> vzduch, -- thanks for the tip!! I didn't know that
[06:33] <vzduch> mongolai: yw
[06:33] <linax> how do i register on here?
[06:33] <linax> nvm
[06:33] <yurimxpxman> doms: success?
[06:33] <neozen> linax: /msg nickserv register help
[06:33] <doms> yurimxpxman:  hey  installation complete  so i need to clear my cache
[06:33] <mongolai> kdiggdy, then go down to preferences and check the "control center box"
[06:34] <njero> javadan, I had to download my driver off of hp's linux area on their site. There were 3 or 4 drivers I had to try until I got it. Then I setup the printer via cups as its own network node
[06:34] <doms> yurimxpxman:  then restart browser
[06:34] <doms> yurimxpxman:  w8
[06:34] <kdiggdy> mongolai, i click it then it uncheacks it self
[06:34] <neozen> doms: yeah... hopefully you've been doing that each time
[06:34] <kdiggdy> mongolai, fixed it there now thanks :)
[06:34] <mongolai> kdiggdy, that's a bug. Sometimes it will do that.
[06:34] <brianm_> neozen: here goes, thanks!
[06:35] <mongolai> kdiggdy, is that the one you wanted?
[06:35] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://localhost/testphp.php    unable to connect
[06:35] <njero> !help
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[06:35] <njero> !fsck
[06:35] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:35] <kdiggdy> mongolai, yep, thanks
[06:35] <yurimxpxman> doms: do you have apache2 installed?
[06:35] <mongolai> cool ;)
[06:35] <vzduch> moin varka.. why so early up on a Friday? ;)
[06:35] <neozen> well all ... its that time again
[06:35] <javadan> njero: I didn't realize that hp had linux drivers on their site.  I guess I always just assume they're unavailable. :)
[06:35] <doms> yurimxpxman:   http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html    the pastebin  this how i install my apache and php
[06:35] <njero> :)
[06:35] <neozen> ...time go go collapse and watch a little anime
[06:36] <njero> HP+Linux++
[06:36] <Aviatrixie> hp is linux friendly
[06:36] <doms> yurimxpxman:   pls read my pastbin
[06:36] <neozen> before I get up again tomorrow.... and apply for jobs again
[06:36] <neozen> ....dratted college graduation
[06:36] <neozen> ...now I have to do stuff
[06:36] <vzduch> njero: at least when it comes to printing
[06:36] <njero> Anyone have any place to check why I would need to run fsck on every boot if I am shutting down safely?
[06:36] <njero> vzduch, :)
[06:36] <neozen> njero: your hd is kaboom
[06:36] <doms> yurimxpxman:   did you see the pastebin
[06:37] <njero> WHA?
[06:37] <mongolai> Aviatrixie, how are the printer/scanner system from HP for linux. Their windows drivers tend to really suck
[06:37] <neozen> njero: or you're using riserfs
[06:37] <yurimxpxman> doms: reading now
[06:37] <vzduch> neozen: huh?
[06:37] <neozen> njero: I think that needs a check on every boot
[06:37] <javadan> I surprised when I found linux drivers for my Epson 3170 scanner.  Installed them and it works incredibly well.
[06:37] <njero> neozen  hmm, I am using a default feisty install... is that resierfs for Fat32?
[06:37] <Arenlor> Does anyone know the name for the SSL Libraries?
[06:37] <doms> neozen: hey  do you any suggestion about my configuration
[06:37] <neozen> kaboom........... farely self explanitory
[06:37] <doms> neozen:  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:37] <neozen> doms: nope
[06:38] <vzduch> neozen: I have exclusively ext3 partitions (apart from the Windoze partitions).. it still fsck's on every bootup
[06:38] <mongolai> Arenlor, for apache2?
[06:38] <neozen> doms: and I've seen it
[06:38] <vzduch> every distro does that, fwiw
[06:38] <Arenlor> mongolai, no for Ubuntu to connect to MSNIM
[06:38] <vzduch> njero: 'reiserfs for FAT32'? what do you mean?
[06:38] <neozen> I too am confused
[06:38] <mongolai> ohhh... sorry, I don't.
[06:38] <doms> neozen:  it looks my configuration is ok right?
[06:39] <neozen> doms: I suppose
[06:39] <k1gwb> For some reason my dhcp server isn't serving addresses, could anyone perhaps help with that?
[06:39] <doms> neozen:  i dont know where the bugs came from?
[06:39] <njero> vzduch, I am not sure....  my dev/sda5 is UUID=375E-2944  /media/sda5 vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[06:39] <doms> neozen:  :)
[06:39] <neozen> doms: haven't done much work w/ installing php/mysql/apache... I just let the ubuntu-server installation do the right things for me
[06:39] <neozen> and it WORKS
[06:39] <vzduch> njero: ReiserFS has nothing to do w/ FAT32
[06:40] <neozen> haven't had a single issue
[06:40] <doms> neozen:  ah after server installation u install the desktop
[06:40] <njero> doms: what was your q? I just installed php 4 days ago
[06:40] <brianm_> doms: best way to install apache+php is not to use ones produced by packagers :-)
[06:40] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: which was the chanell you sent me?
[06:40] <neozen> lol
[06:40] <mongolai> neozen, does that come with a working SMB server/client?
[06:40] <Aviatrixie> mongolai: I've only used my HP 1210v all in one. It's typical of the technology now... sell her a cheaply built piece if crap and hope it lasts long enough to unload a few over-priced ink carts. My carts lasted for not even one refill.
[06:40] <DisabledDuck> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[06:40] <dmordan> anyone able to troubleshoot a evolution/exchange issue?
[06:40] <doms> njero: read my installation configuration then let me  know  if theres missing in it  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:41] <neozen> brianm_: I can see the merits of this... but when I just want a secure locked down server up yesterday... I install ubuntu server w/ LAMP
[06:41] <k1gwb> DisabledDuck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:41] <vzduch> k1gwb: *xserver-xorg
[06:41] <yurimxpxman> doms: have you tried installing apache2-common?
[06:41] <Aviatrixie> so.... nix compatability rates a 10... HP quality rates a 2
[06:41] <neozen> brianm_: one of these days, I'll lose my mind and install it all from scratch
[06:41] <doms> yurimxpxman:   nope
[06:41] <b33r> Is there a program to encrypt/decrypt RC4 on ubuntu?
[06:41] <mongolai> Aviatrixie, HP windows drivers tend to be *severely* bloated. is it the same with linux?
[06:41] <doms> yurimxpxman:   do i need that package
[06:42] <doms> yurimxpxman:   let me try
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> doms: possibly
[06:42] <k1gwb> vzduch: oh oops...i just hit tab and it autocompletes
[06:42] <neozen> brianm_: something tells me the two events will occur simultaneously
[06:42] <ivanAlvarez> neozen: where do i deal with the beryl stuff?
[06:42] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: #beryl
[06:42] <neozen> ivanAlvarez: or #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <vzduch> k1gwb: then you better browse the nicklist *gg*
[06:42] <neozen> or you ask here... and be PATIENT
[06:43] <doms> yurimxpxman:   ups  my apache2.2-common is already installed
[06:43] <neozen> nighty night all
[06:43] <mongolai> night
[06:43] <kdiggdy> hey anyone know the hotkeys to move around the cube
[06:43] <doms> yurimxpxman:   and the mpm-prefork
[06:43] <kdiggdy> or to make the cube rotate?
[06:43] <DisabledDuck> that didn't work
[06:44] <k1gwb> if I pastebin my dhcp.conf file is that enough to try to diagnose why it won't serve addresses?
[06:44] <DigitalNinja> Anyone know how to find out which packages came from backports
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> doms: man apache-modconf
[06:44] <mongolai> DisabledDuck, I didn't see your original problem. What was it?
[06:44] <dvs01> i heard that grsecurity is discontinued due to loss of a sponsor. are there any alternatives to it?
[06:44] <vzduch> DisabledDuck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <njero> doms we would need to see your confs I think... are you on feisty?
[06:44] <doms> yurimxpxman:   the document  ok i will try
[06:44] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yeah feisty fawn
[06:44] <vzduch> DisabledDuck: k1gwb produced a typo :)
[06:45] <doms> yurimxpxman:  but those cofiguration works fine in my edgy
[06:45] <Aviatrixie> mongolai: my last HP printer floated onto my desktop... looking like it had spent the last 10 days floating in my swimming pool. It was dead, and so bloated the local constibulary inssisted my husband had to be the culprit.
[06:45] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin your httpd.conf file
[06:45] <vzduch> worked fine for me after installing Nvidia driver
[06:45] <mongolai> LOL
[06:45] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:45] <dvs01> oh wait.. tis still alive
[06:45] <DigitalNinja> is there a good tool for configuring Apache?
[06:45] <njero> doms, drop a test.html in /var/www/ and see if it is getting served
[06:45] <mongolai> yep, that's about right
[06:45] <kdiggdy> mongolai, do you know how to make the cube rotate?
[06:46] <DigitalNinja> I'm thinking Webmin but you would have to put all the Apache config files int one
[06:46] <mongolai> no sorry. I can't use those effects.
[06:46] <kdiggdy> k
[06:46] <brianm_> neozen... oh well
[06:46] <brianm_> I am just finicky about my apache installs :-)
[06:46] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yeah theres an index.html  and the testphp.php in /var/www
[06:46] <mongolai> brianm_, you gotta be ;P
[06:47] <varka> moin vzduch, the early bird catches the worm ;)
[06:47] <mongolai> one file falls outta place and a fellow wil pull all his hair out
[06:47] <kootaphor>  okay so here's a puzzle for ya. I open up rhythmbox to try to listen to a radio station---one of the sources listed (along with Library, Podcasts, Radio, etc) -- it says "SHELLY'S LIMEWIRE TUNES" with 3 random albums showing up.  They don't play. double yew tee eff.
[06:47] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/Imk4jw84.html    here the httpd.conf
[06:47] <imbecile> hey guys i installed a vm with xp on it and it wont connect to the internet..options are my intel card (which i already tried) vlance or vmxnet what should i try?
[06:48] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, one way is: apt-cache policy pkgname
[06:48] <wols_> vmware
[06:48] <mongolai> kootaphor, did you manually input the URI for the stream?
[06:48] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/Imk4jw84.html    here the httpd.conf
[06:48] <wols_> !vmware
[06:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:48] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did you see my httpd.conf
[06:49] <yurimxpxman> doms: yes
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: apt-cache
[06:49] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ok
[06:49] <doms> yurimxpxman:  :)
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: That's if my cache is still there
[06:49] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: Does it get deleted?
[06:49] <yurimxpxman> doms: I think you're missing something.. lemme check mine. one sec
[06:50] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, this cache is the package information downloaded from the repositories, so no
[06:50] <kootaphor> mongolai -yes, and that's also a problem I'm having. But I'm also curious about this' SHELLY'S LIMEWIRE TUNES thing.  I don't know anyone named shelly and I don't use limewire
[06:50] <doms> yurimxpxman:  wow  what is it?
[06:50] <doms> yurimxpxman:  i hope we can track it
[06:50] <qnyc> DigitalNinja, and so it nicely works for not-installed packages also
[06:51] <mongolai> kootaphor, have you tried "steamtuner" + "xmms" for internet radio?
[06:52] <doms> yurimxpxman: keep tracking on it, i'am still looking the missing configuration
[06:52] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin the results of this: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available|less
[06:52] <wYns-54> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[06:52] <mongolai> kootaphor, what's the direct URI for that station?
[06:52] <doms> yurimxpxman: ok
[06:53] <RoC_MM> !virtualizers
[06:53] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:54] <yurimxpxman> doms: on second thought, it'd be easier to remove the |less at the end of that
[06:54] <fanfare> cuck caa
[06:54] <doms> yurimxpxman: http://rafb.net/p/oEBNEc28.html
[06:54] <doms> yurimxpxman: that all the load
[06:54] <pjdid> does anyone know any "GOOD" screen capture recording programs for linux
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin this: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> oops
[06:55] <yondie> pjdid, u can use xvidcap
[06:55] <yurimxpxman> doms: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:55] <yondie> pjdid, or u can use istanbul
[06:55] <doms> yurimxpxman: ok
[06:55] <mongolai> pjdid, did you have problems with Istanbul, too?
[06:55] <fanfare> hi ppls
[06:56] <doms> yurimxpxman: http://rafb.net/p/vdc1mB93.html
[06:56] <doms> yurimxpxman: thas all the enabled file
[06:57] <yurimxpxman> doms: do you have an old version of apache installed alongside apache2?
[06:57] <vzduch> anyone here successfully migrated mailboxes from KMail to Evolution?
[06:57] <pjdid> i have used xvidcap and wink and both are horribly slow
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: nope
[06:57] <pjdid> i need to capture full screen
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: this is fresh
[06:57] <pjdid> is istanbul fast?
[06:57] <doms> yurimxpxman: the userdir is there
[06:58] <yurimxpxman> doms: it all seems to look fine to me.. I'm not sure what we're missing here
[06:58] <doms> yurimxpxman: but b4 this configuration   is install both apache and apache2
[06:58] <yurimxpxman> doms: get rid of the first apache
[06:58] <doms> yurimxpxman: then i install apache and keep my apache2
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: then i uninstall apache and keep my apache2
[06:59] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo aptitude remove apache
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: yeah i use my snyaptic to remove apache
[06:59] <Hansel> I am having some trouble getting my wireless card to work.... Dlink WNA-1330.  I have never configured wireless before (my first laptop with Linux) so I'm a bit lost.  I've attempted looking through wpasupplicant how-to's and iwconfig howto's but I'm lost..  WHen I plug the card in this orange light flashes and iwconfig lists it (I think) but nothing seems to work.
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> I've installed Feisty on a new box, and I'd like to tryout KDE . What's the minimum I should install? kde-base? or kde-core?
[06:59] <doms> yurimxpxman: and the bugs started up
[06:59] <blanky> Hey guys, if my brother's computer who's in my LAN has shared documents on Windows XP, how can I access them?
[06:59] <PIPBoy_> hi room :)
[07:00] <Hansel> blanky - install samba
[07:00] <blanky> Hansel, are you sure?
[07:00] <blanky> Hansel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:00] <blanky> it says it's not necessary for that
[07:00] <doms> yurimxpxman: but trace up my apache configuration its looks fine
[07:00] <yurimxpxman> doms: pastebin this file: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:01] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <DigitalNinja> qnyc: Thanks for the info
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - I installed it and I have shares on my Linux box that Windows can see and vice-a-versa...
[07:01] <blanky> Hansel: Do you have a guide? or just sudo apt-get install samba, no configuration required?
[07:01] <blanky> Hansel: what about this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - http://cri.ch/linux/docs/sk0001.html
[07:01] <doms> yurimxpxman:
[07:01] <blanky> thanks Hansel
[07:01] <doms> yurimxpxman: okie
[07:01] <Hansel> blanky - technically you can probably install JUST smbclient...
[07:02] <slugicide> How do I jump to posts I've made on the forums?
[07:02] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, I do not want everything that is included in the full kubuntu-desktop installation. I'm not clear on the difference between kde-core and kde-base, but I know that much.
[07:02] <Hansel> as opposed to the entire samba package which lets you also share Linux mount points...
[07:02] <blanky> Hansel: will the link I provide work?
[07:02] <yurimxpxman> slugicide: Search > My Posts
[07:02] <slugicide> Thanks, yurimxpxman!
[07:02] <yurimxpxman> slugicide: np
[07:02] <Hansel> blanky - looks like it should.  :)
[07:03] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/tTJ1pR42.html
[07:03] <blanky> thanks Hansel
[07:03] <doms> yurimxpxman:  thats the apache2.conf
[07:03] <cables> Is there any way to use TWAIN to transfer an image to a camera rather than from?
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did notice at the end of the file ServerName 192.168.1.20
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  did you notice at the end of the file ServerName 192.168.1.20  i change this
[07:04] <ahmed_> hi
[07:04] <doms> yurimxpxman:  coz my local 192.168.1.20 is my local ip
[07:05] <blanky> Hansel: you said that thing, would you be able to see it in Konqueror/Nautilus?
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  http://rafb.net/p/tTJ1pR42.html
[07:05] <yurimxpxman> doms: I diffed it against my conf, and that was the only difference.. I didn't have that line at all, so just remove it and restart apache2
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still reading
[07:05] <skarevoluti> hi
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Does Nautilus control how .desktop files are displayed on the desktop in Gnome?
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  ah
[07:05] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yehey
[07:06] <skarevoluti> my network doesn't working :(
[07:06] <incorperated> has anyone here ever used no-ip
[07:06] <skarevoluti> packages don't send
[07:06] <littleball> hi, i want to have a tool to monitor a specific service. WHen the service process is stopped (due to bug etc reason), the monitoring tool should auto restart the service. What tool can do this?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> skarevoluti, Wireless?
[07:06] <cables> incorperated, no, but I've used dyndns (this is offtopic, you should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> !anyone
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> hello
[07:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:07] <Hansel> blanky - yes... iafter you run that command you will be able to see it in nautilus or any file manager at the mount point you assign it.
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> i need some help with the package manager
[07:07] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: I'm not sure if you can get a working KDE desktop w/ less than kubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <Jordan_U> !hello | estebanbianchi
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Jordan_U> !hi | estebanbianchi
[07:07] <ubotu> estebanbianchi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:07] <Hansel> skarevoluti, what does ifconfig say?
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> it seems to be blocked by an apt-get comand
[07:07] <cdg52> Anyone have any idea how to clear the media gallery on Amarok?
[07:07] <estebanbianchi> or an erroneous dpkg
[07:07] <cdg52> i inported some stuff that i dont want and its over 1000 files
[07:08] <yurimxpxman> cdg52: #amarok
[07:08] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, apparently you can. kubuntu-desktop is the kubuntu full install - all apps and services.
[07:08] <Jordan_U> estebanbianchi, Your network is down because of dpkg?
[07:08] <skarevoluti> Hansel all configuration are done
[07:08] <skarevoluti> thcp, all done
[07:08] <estebanbianchi> nobut i cant run any ap-get comand
[07:08] <blanky> cool thanks Hansel it works
[07:08] <Hansel> ;)
[07:08] <bruenig> Jordan_U, you know that ole ifconfig $interface down bug
[07:08] <yurimxpxman> estebanianchi: what's the error?
[07:08] <estebanbianchi> i remeber there is a comand to unblock
[07:09] <function1> is there some app that can view sqlite dbs? or does each db require a custom viewer on principle
[07:09] <estebanbianchi> it says that there is an other ap-get oparation runing
[07:09] <estebanbianchi> but i reestarted the machine twice (like in windows :P)
[07:09] <blanky> Hansel: will I have to do this everytime I start up my PC?
[07:09] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: according to the short description, kde-core should be what you're looking for.. kdebase is just the basic libs & stuff needed for KDE apps to work
[07:09] <PIPBoy_> hey, does anyone know anything about the patent suit going on with microsoft? anyone care to summarize whats going on?
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman:  i hope it work
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> estebanianchi: delete the lock: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:10] <Hansel> blanky - yes... but you can add it to a startup script if you want it to be perm.
[07:10] <estebanbianchi> i worked it out
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman: i forgot how to restart my apache
[07:10] <estebanbianchi> it just just sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:10] <doms> yurimxpxman: what is the command
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d stop
[07:10] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d start
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, t/y - that is what it looked like to me too, but wanted to check with an older and wiser pair of eyes :)
[07:10] <blanky> Hansel: okay, how would I do that, I mean, I can do it myself, but what file or what program do I need to use
[07:11] <skarevoluti> what can i try to reconfigure my network???
[07:11] <Hansel> blanky - just append the commands to rc.local in /etc
[07:11] <Hansel> cat /etc/rc.local for info.  :)
[07:11] <doms> yurimxpxman: command not found
[07:11] <blanky> Hansel: Sweet, thanks man I appreciate it
[07:11] <Hansel> np
[07:11] <vzduch> Nutubuntu: my eyes are old (if you call 30 old, that is).. if they're wise I don't know :P
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> doms: oops. sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> oops
[07:11] <yurimxpxman> grr
[07:11] <doms> yurimxpxman: okie
[07:12] <doms> yurimxpxman: copy
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apachce2 start
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> psh
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> I can't type tonight
[07:12] <blanky> Hansel: I won't need the sudo mkdir /mnt/blah thing right?
[07:12] <doms> yurimxpxman: stoping okie
[07:12] <blanky> THAT will be permanent, as well as the symbolic link
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> vzduch, older in knowledge, anyway ... :) (I'm an old, old man, me, but not wise. Yet.)
[07:12] <blanky> I just need the mount -t smbfs command
[07:12] <yurimxpxman> doms: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:13] <Hansel> yeah... once you create the dir it will stay.  :)
[07:13] <Aviatrixie>  /exit
[07:13] <vzduch> Ubuntu-es: renaming yourself won't make us speak Spanish =D
[07:13] <doms> yurimxpxman:  root@pc1:/#
[07:13] <Hansel> it wont hurt though to re-create it in the off chance you do erase it or something
[07:13] <ryan__> Can anyone help me getting my wireless card to work, there aren't any tutorials online
[07:13] <doms> yurimxpxman:  started
[07:13] <blanky> hey in KDE, what is the sudo alternative for GUI apps?
[07:13] <Hansel> ryan - I'm having the same problem... :(
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> blanky: AFAIK, there isn't one, except checking the option to run as a different user
[07:14] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still unable to connect localhost
[07:14] <Ubuntu-es> vzduch jaja, i know it XD
[07:14] <Hansel> I've always ran linux on servers... put it on my laptop and want wireless to work but I'm completely lost.
[07:14] <blanky> yurimxpxman: okay
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> doms: ah, the server isn't working *at*all*?
[07:14] <Hansel> ryan_ have you run lspci to see if the card is even "seen" by the OS?
[07:14] <yurimxpxman> blanky: gksudo still works in KDE, though.. it just doesn't look very nice ;-)
[07:15] <blanky> yurimxpxman: okay cool thanks!
[07:15] <vzduch> yurimxpxman: kdesu exists
[07:15] <vzduch> :)
[07:15] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> hello
[07:15] <yurimxpxman> vzduch! ah! thanks! :-)
[07:15] <Hansel> hi gbluntzer_ubuntu
[07:15] <blanky> hey guys, "You don't need Samba to...Have your Windows computer use (via a network) a printer that is attached to a Linux computer, you don't need Samba. CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network.", according to this guide
[07:15] <blanky> how can I configure CUPS to be accessible to the network?
[07:15] <blanky> my bro is on a windows computer in my LAN
[07:16] <vzduch> blanky: if you have a guide, it should tell you..
[07:16] <Hansel> blanky - if CUPS is running then http://localhost:631/admin.
[07:16] <blanky> vzduch: it doesn't, that guide is about samba, but it's telling me I don't need samba
[07:16] <jinx099> hmmm, ssh (openssh-server) is missing from my package list...
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: OH, thanks
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: so just, http://mylocalip:631/myprinter
[07:16] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> im  a ubuntu  newbie. Anyone want to help me?
[07:16] <blanky> thanks
[07:16] <Hansel> not local ip... localhost as in 127.0.0.1
[07:16] <Hansel> http://localhost:631/admin  :)
[07:16] <blanky> Hansel: but localhost/loop back would be HIS IP
[07:17] <blanky> my brother is on a windows machine
[07:17] <blanky> he wants to use a printer hooked up to my ubuntu machine
[07:17] <n2diy> jinx099: do you have the multiverse and universe repos enabeled?
[07:17] <ThePioneer> Whats the command for a list of irc rooms?
[07:17] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: anything specifically?
[07:17] <Hansel> blanky - you need to go to that webpage on the UBUNTU box...
[07:17] <netham45> xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (invalid argument)
[07:17] <netham45> can anyone help me?
[07:17] <blanky> Hansel: OH, haha, thanks
[07:17] <jinx099> n2diy: yeah, and updated
[07:17] <netham45> I have no idea what is going on...
[07:17] <netham45> X is giving me that error
[07:17] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> im running ubuntu desktop
[07:17] <blanky> thanks! brb
[07:17] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> and I want to turn on telent
[07:18] <Whtiger> telnet?
[07:18] <Hansel> gbluntzer - telnet is awful... use ssh instead.  More secure.  :)
[07:18] <netham45> telnet is a bad idea
[07:18] <Whtiger> no, you don't.
[07:18] <jinx099> n2diy: oh wtf, the gui says its not enabled even though i uncommented everything manually in sources.list
[07:18] <n2diy> jinx099: is it packaged under a different name, maybe?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, You want to telnet into somewhere else *from* your machine?
[07:18] <netham45> xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (invalid argument) -- X is spitting out this error when I run it.
[07:19] <Hansel> gbluntzer - if you want to see what services you have listening for network connections pull up a terminal and type             sudo netstat -tulp
[07:19] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i want to telnet from my windows machine into this ubuntu box
[07:19] <n2diy> jinx099: ah, a good tech finds their mistake! :)
[07:19] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: use ssh for that.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, No, you dont :)
[07:19] <Whtiger> it's like telnet, but it's much more secure.
[07:19] <netham45> and better
[07:19] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> is ssh on by default?
[07:19] <Hansel> gbluntzer - ssh is encrypted telnet.  :)   go download Putty for your Windows box... its an SSH client that's free and good.
[07:19] <concept10> whatev
[07:19] <Jordan_U> gbluntzer_ubuntu, "sudo apt-get install ssh" connect from Windows using putty
[07:20] <chaosmystic> WinSCP is great
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, nah... by default Ubuntu is pretty locked down as far as I recall...
[07:20] <netham45> Telnet is like tying a piece of paper with your IP, pass, and account to a pigeon and letting him free at a lan party.
[07:20] <metbsd> putty has scp too
[07:20] <Nutubuntu> netham45, good description :)
[07:20] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> k second question how do i turn on ftp?
[07:20] <n2diy> gbluntzer_ubuntu: type ssh -v, and see what it tells you, I think it is.
[07:20] <chaosmystic> I use gFTP
[07:20] <netham45> gbluntzer_ubuntu: use SFTP, more secure.
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you have to sudo apt-get install an FTP server... vsftpd and pureftpd are most commonly used.
[07:20] <vzduch> PuTTY is _the_ SSH client for Windoze
[07:20] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can also transfer files over SSH...
[07:21] <TaJMoX> i like proftpd
[07:21] <Hansel> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can use SSH for everything basically.
[07:21] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> ah cool
[07:21] <netham45> like Hansel's mom! j/k
[07:21] <Hansel> netham45, looking for a ban?
[07:21] <netham45> no?
[07:21] <Hansel> well then stfu kthx.
[07:21] <netham45> Im looking for the answer to my issues with X
[07:21] <chaosmystic> I built a PC with a 500 GB hard drive and a 4GB main drive. Then I loaded FreeNAS on it.
[07:21] <tritium> Hansel: careful
[07:21] <Hansel> well I'd normally help but you just insulted my dead mother.
[07:22] <Whtiger> netham45: X is overrated anyways..
[07:22] <chaosmystic> I can ssh into it with gFTP or WinSCP (I keep this on a thumb drive)
[07:22] <netham45> Whtiger: it's nice when you have a 5 monitor setup. a terminal kinda... fails at that.
[07:22] <TaJMoX> hansel: pff - he was trying to be friendly
[07:22] <wols_> netham45: what videocard what driver and what is your xorg.log?
[07:22] <chaosmystic> can anyone help me get my usb mic to work in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, friendly like your whore of a mother?  j/k
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, see... not too friendly.
[07:23] <TaJMoX> hansel exactly
[07:23] <wols_> Hansel: stop that please
[07:23] <TaJMoX> shrug - i dont take it personally
[07:23] <netham45> wols_: S3 Trio32/64x2 S3 ViRGE DX/GXx1 Matrox Mellinium G400 Dualhead AGPx1
[07:23] <skarevoluti> :( please help me with my internet connection...
[07:23] <tritium> Hansel: watch it
[07:23] <predaeus_> !language
[07:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:23] <Hansel> tritium, tell it to netham45...
[07:23] <Hansel> wols_, tell it to netham45
[07:23] <TaJMoX> Hansel - wah
[07:23] <Hansel> TaJMoX, tell it to netham45
[07:23] <PIPBoy_> hey, does anyone know anything about the patent suit going on with microsoft? anyone care to summarize whats going on?
[07:23] <Whtiger> don't most families swear..?
[07:23] <TaJMoX>  /join #cry
[07:24] <tritium> Hansel: they're your words, not his
[07:24] <chaosmystic> I am using Audacity and I have a C01U Samson USB Mic.
[07:24] <predaeus_> !offtopic | PIPBoy_
[07:24] <ubotu> PIPBoy_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:24] <Hansel> tritium, scroll up... I'm just repeating
[07:24] <Hansel> yawn.
[07:24] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> putty
[07:24] <chaosmystic> can anyone help me get my usb mic working?
[07:24] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: putty.
[07:24] <TaJMoX> pipboy_ ubuntu is't worried about it because M$ has no case
[07:25] <wols_> netham45: well?
[07:25] <javadan> I have a cdburner and a dvd drive on the same ide cable- if I put a disk in the dvd drive it locks Ubuntu hard and it never comes back. When booted to the shell I can manually mount the drive and it works fine.  Ideas?
[07:25] <tritium> Hansel: no, you chose to use foul language that he did not.  Drop it now.
[07:25] <netham45> wols_ : xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (invalid argument)
[07:25] <Hansel> tritium, it's been dropped... you keep bringing it up.
[07:25] <chaosmystic> Javadan did you set your jumpers on the drives right?
[07:25] <Hansel> tritium, you suck at being an op.  <3
[07:25] <netham45> it seems to be related to the AGP card, when I disable that, it works right.
[07:25] <wols_> netham45: I asked you stomething. and you still haven't answered
[07:26] <netham45>  can you repeat? I missed it(can't scroll, irssi)
[07:26] <tritium> netham45: your joke was inappropriate
[07:26] <wols_> Hansel: please stop being OT
[07:26] <Whtiger> netham45: page up
[07:26] <wols_> netham45: /help lastlog
[07:26] <Hansel> yawn...
[07:26] <Evan_> any java gurus online?
[07:26] <javadan> chaosmystic: I'm not sure how they're set but it works fine in XP and at the shell.
[07:26] <Hansel> tritium, no seriously... /kb me please.
[07:26] <Hansel> yawn.
[07:26] <wols_> Evan_: #java
[07:26] <Evan_> i see
[07:26] <doms> yurimxpxman:  yes your right
[07:26] <Hansel> I'm the only one helping in here yet I get kicked after somebody insults me... laugh
[07:26] <doms> still there
[07:27] <netham45> you asked me what cards, right?
[07:27] <doms> yurimxpxman:  still there
[07:27] <chaosmystic> Javadan - try setting the DVD drive to Master and the other to slave. Then reboot
[07:27] <netham45> wols_: S3 Trio32/64x2 S3 ViRGE DX/GXx1 Matrox Mellinium G400 Dualhead AGPx1
[07:27] <tritium> Hansel: evading bans will get you klined
[07:27] <Evan_> #java doesn't seem to be working wols
[07:27] <Hansel> tritium, I'll even give you a reason to kick/ban me.  You are a fucking douche bag.  Learn how to understand that people dont appreciate having their mothers insulted.  I was proving a point.  Get off it.
[07:27] <javadan> chaosmystic: I'll try that out- thanks!
[07:27] <arooni> i have ubutnu 7.04 and a sony laptop.... i cant adjust brightness, and hibernate & suspernd is broken (even though i also added s2disk etc...) .. any ideas on how to fix either of this problem?
[07:27] <Hansel> tritium, you didnt ban me... you kicked me douche bag.
[07:27] <netham45> and my xorg.log is.. unavailable ATM.
[07:27] <Hansel> I just rejoined
[07:27] <Hansel> yawn.
[07:27] <wols_> Evan_: java is OT here in any case if it's a programming question
[07:27] <Hansel> tritium, get the fuck over yourself.
[07:27] <wols_> Evan_: and I'm sure there are various java channels
[07:28] <Evan_> wols, it is. I'm trying to make a window open, then when a button is clicked that window closes and another window opens.
[07:28] <wols_> Evan_: I don't care. It's OT. look for a java channel
[07:28] <wols_> especially for homework
[07:28] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: how's it going?
[07:29] <Evan_> wols, thought that meant on topic.
[07:29] <Evan_> wols, haha.
[07:29] <netham45> Evan_: try off topic.
[07:29] <shiester_miester> lol @ hansel
[07:30] <wols_> arooni: you start by learning to explain your problem properly
[07:30] <c2c2rock> 8-)
[07:30] <Whtiger> =D
[07:30] <arooni> heh
[07:31] <vzduch> what a Hansel.. (insider for those who speak German ;))
[07:31] <arooni> ok lets start first thing first
[07:31] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i did the ssh -v and its there
[07:31] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> but putty on my windows box does nothing
[07:31] <Whtiger> did you tell it to do anything?
[07:31] <netham45> lol
[07:32] <wols_> gbluntzer_ubuntu: what do you want it to do?
[07:32] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> :)
[07:32] <Whtiger> connect to your ubuntu box as you would with telnet
[07:32] <Whtiger> but with putty >_>
[07:32] <tritium> gbluntzer_ubuntu: did you install openssh-server (or the metapackage, ssh)?  Otherwise, you only have the client installed.
[07:32] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> oh maybe i downloaded the wrong thing then i has a graphical front end
[07:33] <arooni> i have a sony laptop and ubuntu 7.04, and... i cant adjust the lcd brightness.... any suggestions?
[07:33] <Whtiger> the graphical frontend is good.
[07:33] <Whtiger> tritium: he did the ssh package.
[07:33] <wols_> atrus: acpi
[07:33] <tritium> Whtiger: good
[07:33] <logankoester> how can I restart a network interface from the shell?
[07:33] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> well i put in the ip address and picked ssh radio button
[07:33] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> and it just opens up a dos window with a green cursor
[07:33] <Whtiger> that's good.
[07:34] <wols_> sudo netstat -anp |grep ssh. anything running?
[07:34] <atrus> wols_: ?
[07:34] <wols_> arooni: acpi
[07:34] <atrus> ah
[07:34] <n2diy> logankoester: which interface?
[07:34] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: and it just sits there, forever?
[07:34] <shiester_miester> hey i would like some help with getting a USB interface on a PPP ADSL router working, its an alcatel speedtouch 530
[07:34] <logankoester> n2diy: eth0
[07:34] <Nutubuntu> would I want acpi on a desktop? or is it mostly useful on a laptop only?
[07:34] <arooni> wols_: i typed: acpi, and i got:       Battery 1: discharging, 75%, rate information unavailable.
[07:34] <n2diy> ifup eth0
[07:35] <kab00m> hi to all
[07:35] <shiester_miester> i can get it working fine if i use the ethernet port, but i'd really like to keep the ethernet port free for my lan and use the usb port
[07:35] <Whtiger> hey kab00m
[07:35] <wols_> arooni: no, the problem IS acpi. not the tool acpi
[07:35] <wols_> shiester_miester: what did google say?
[07:35] <logankoester> n2diy: thanks. I got an unknown interface error, but that's the name of the interface that comes up in ifconfig. Do you know how I can rescan or something?
[07:36] <shiester_miester> wols_, pretty much google just said use the ethernet port and dont bother with usb
[07:36] <shiester_miester> which is not a satisfying answer
[07:36] <arooni> wols_: what should i do to fix it?
[07:36] <wols_> logankoester: what network drivres have you loadeed?
[07:36] <kab00m> Issue with Feisty: Every other boot sets the resolution at 800x600
[07:36] <wols_> arooni: read more about acpi and your special notebook
[07:36] <kab00m> don't know where to start troubleshooting
[07:36] <wols_> kab00m: in xorg.log
[07:36] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> sudo netstat -anp | grep ssh
[07:36] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     17178    5510/ssh-agent
[07:37] <sakitram> hello, I have installed Ubuntu successfully on my SATA hardisk.  But I get often system hangs.  What to do?  I also tried disabling SATA in BIOS, but still Ubuntu hangs while I am working.
[07:37] <Whtiger> er
[07:37] <Whtiger> ghm.
[07:37] <shiester_miester> wols_, if its impossible to get it working with USB at all then i dont have much choice, but if its possible then I'd really like to
[07:37] <logankoester> wols_: Dunno. I've been using this machine for months and last night it just quit networking :-/ Possibly related to a recent upgrade to feisty
[07:37] <wols_> gbluntzer_ubuntu: so install/run sshd fineally. it'can't work otherwise
[07:37] <porthose> does anyone know how to set up dbmail
[07:37] <wols_> shiester_miester: that's why you are supposed to ask google about it. we rarely know about specific hwardware
[07:37] <kab00m> brb wols
[07:38] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> so ssh-agent is not the server?
[07:38] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu, try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:38] <wols_> logankoester: then maybe you should check?
[07:38] <Whtiger> correct
[07:38] <wols_> !info dbmail
[07:38] <ubotu> dbmail: base package for the dbmail email solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 876 kB
[07:38] <logankoester> wols_: How would I do that?
[07:38] <wols_> dmesg | grep eth
[07:38] <predaeus_> shiester_miester, you could get a router so you can use both at the same time (LAN and WEB/WAN)
[07:38] <porthose> thanks
[07:38] <wols_> predaeus_: he wants to use ubunut has his router and save the money
[07:39] <logankoester> wols_: what am I looking for here exactly?
[07:39] <wols_> logankoester: problems?
[07:39] <sakitram> somebody answer to my question please?
[07:40] <_Ahti> !ask | sakitram
[07:40] <ubotu> sakitram: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:40] <wols_> sakitram: check your hardware
[07:40] <JerseyMonkey> Could someone help me with setting up an app for my tv tuner?
[07:40] <wols_> apt-get install tvtime
[07:40] <logankoester> wols_: that returned five lines: registered as... / link up / no ipv6 routers... / link down / link up
[07:40] <JerseyMonkey> I installed tvtime, but it wont get my component signal.
[07:40] <logankoester> I don't know what this means
[07:40] <predaeus_> sakitram, as far as I know disabling SATA to fix problems in an operating system that is installed on a SATA drive makes no sense
[07:41] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: have you installed drivers?
[07:41] <JerseyMonkey> No.
[07:41] <wols_> logankoester: then learn what itmeans?
[07:41] <JerseyMonkey> Avermedia pcmia card.
[07:42] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: can you answer my questin please?
[07:42] <ivanAlvarez> #beryl
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> No drivers installed.
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> At least I never installed them.
[07:42] <wols_> then check if they are installed and do it if they aren't?
[07:42] <JerseyMonkey> How would I do that?
[07:43] <wols_> man lsmod
[07:43] <saketram> hello, my ubuntu system hangs often, please somebody help?
[07:43] <wols_> and find out what drivers you need so you recognize them
[07:43] <wols_> !tell saketram about ask
[07:43] <_Ahti> saketram: Hangs? After doing what?
[07:43] <_Ahti> wols_ :its !ask | saketram
[07:43] <saketram> during I work, it hangs
[07:43] <saketram> not at specify task.
[07:44] <logankoester> wols_: there's nothing I can run to detect network settings automatically?
[07:44] <_Ahti> saketram: What programs do you use when it hangs?
[07:44] <noiesmo> saketram, you could open a terminal and run "top" see whats eating your resources
[07:44] <saketram> nothing special, even I work with Gedit, it hangs.
[07:44] <logankoester> It managed just fine when I installed ubuntu
[07:44] <wols_> logankoester: you already do, but it's failing
[07:44] <duck__> where can i go to ask questions about beryl?
[07:44] <saketram> I guess the problem should be belongs to system or SATA Hard disk.
[07:44] <wols_> !effects | duck__
[07:44] <ubotu> duck__: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <_Ahti> saketram: Ok, Sorry can't help you... Since i specialice in network hardware :P
[07:45] <saketram> but I checked system with engineer, and it is new system too
[07:45] <defrysk> duck__, /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: smartmontools
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: but I doubt it
[07:45] <saketram> so there could something with SATA and Ubuntu
[07:45] <saketram> _Ahti: anyway thank you
[07:45] <wols_> saketram: unlikely
[07:45] <saketram> what may I do next to resolve the problem?
[07:46] <wols_> saketram: I already told you. scroll up
[07:46] <Whtiger> gbluntzer_ubuntu: it work?
[07:46] <saketram> do you want to install smartmontools?
[07:46] <saketram> may I try "sudo apt-get install smartmontools"?
[07:46] <wols_> saketram: why should I want it? I have it already installed
[07:46] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, how is the computer getting an IPv4 address, supposedly?
[07:47] <wols_> logankoester: what does /etc/init.d/networking restart say?
[07:48] <wols_> saketram: and no that's not what I told you should do
[07:48] <saketram> yes, I install smartmontools? what is next? I do not find any special menu anywhere?
[07:48] <wols_> there is no menu. there is this thing called documentation. but again: I didn#t told you to install it, did I?
[07:49] <doms> /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[07:49] <doms> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[07:49] <doms> httpd not running, trying to start
[07:49] <saketram> wols_ : it ok, but I run th e command and install.  no problem.  what is next?
[07:49] <logankoester> wols_: It says about five pages of stuff. The only problems are with sendmail
[07:49] <logankoester> which I don't care about at the moment
[07:49] <wols_> doms: if it truly does say that you're very misconfigured
[07:49] <_Ahti> !fi
[07:49] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:50] <wols_> logankoester: /etc/init.d/networking rstart tells you about sendmail?
[07:50] <logankoester> yes
[07:50] <logankoester> missing a dependancy or something
[07:50] <Whtiger> erm..
[07:50] <wols_> there is no sendmail on your box I hope
[07:50] <clockwork> Hi, I'm having repository issues. I'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy (and eventually fiesty) But when I run "gksu 'update-manager -c'" I end up getting a repostistory error message:
[07:50] <clockwork> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:50] <clockwork> Can anyone help?
[07:50] <wols_> networking restart dells you about dependencies?
[07:50] <Ainokea> I'm installing ubuntu alternative, when installing is the screen supposed to flash?
[07:51] <doms> wols_: look my configuration pastebin  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html   is theres missing on it
[07:51] <Jordan_U> If I re-install keeping my /home partition, what do I have to do to ensure that the account I create will have the same UID and folder as my current account? Just use the same name?
[07:51] <Whtiger> Ainokea: does it work anyways?
[07:51] <Ainokea> it just keeps going
[07:51] <Ainokea> I dont know how long I am supposed to wait
[07:51] <logankoester> wols_: yeah I do have sendmail installed
[07:51] <Ainokea> aproximately how long does it take to install?
[07:51] <donovan_> I'm used to doing /sbin/shutdown -i0 -g0 but when doing it feisty I get rc1 main process killed by TERM signal and it wants me to go single user mode.  Any ideas on how to fix?
[07:52] <_Ahti> clockwork: Since it said that, it means that file no longer exists... or isn't available at the moment, so i suggest you wait for a while before trying again
[07:52] <saketram> wols_:  what is next?
[07:52] <clockwork> I can hit the URL just fine
[07:52] <Ainokea> approximately how long does ubuntu take to install?
[07:52] <duck__> how do i restart X?
[07:52] <clockwork> _Ahti: I can hit the URL just fine
[07:52] <_Ahti> clockwork: have you installed any firewalls, etc?
[07:52] <saketram> noiesmo:  I did so "top", now I see lot of things running (nearly 30)
[07:52] <saketram> ?
[07:52] <njero> Ainokea, depends on formatting time
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Ainokea, 20 minutes or more, depending on weather or not it's set to download packages from the internet
[07:52] <donovan_> duck_: ctl alt backspace will typically do it
[07:52] <logankoester> It seems to be getting an ip address via dhcp just fine... maybe it's a windows problem
[07:52] <wols_> doms: fix your DNS/resvolver/hostname/fqdn fix xour pasting (there never is a 172.0.1.1) and fix your apache mime type/php loading
[07:52] <JerseyMonkey> Would someone be willing to explain how I would know if a device is installed correctly, and if not how to find drivers for it?
[07:53] <doms> wols_: did you read my paste bin
[07:53] <_Ahti> clockwork: Have you been plauing around with iptables?
[07:53] <wols_> saketram: you scroll up and learn to read what I said. you really need it
[07:53] <Ainokea> hmm alright thanks, I guess I'll leave it for about 20 minutes
[07:53] <wols_> doms: I did and I answered you
[07:53] <duck__> how do i restart X?
[07:53] <clockwork> _Ahti: No on playing with the iptable, I am behind a router, but I wouldn't think that would matter
[07:53] <doms> wols_: do you have a exact how it configure
[07:53] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: depends on the device a bit
[07:53] <wols_> duck__: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:53] <doms> wols_: do you have a exact link how it configure
[07:53] <_Ahti> duck__: Log out and then = ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:54] <wols_> doms: no
[07:54] <agm_> after updates the system runs slow, can any one explain??
[07:54] <_Ahti> clockwork: OK, hmm...
[07:54] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: It is a PCMIA TvTuner made by AverMedia.
[07:54] <clockwork> _Ahti: I see people complaining about it on the forums, but no solutions
[07:54] <doms> wols_: where do i start to configure
[07:54] <_Ahti> agm_: Did you update from beta? 7.04b?
[07:54] <_Ahti> clockwork: Its a bug, don't know how to fix it tho :(
[07:55] <Jordan_U> How do I re-install keeping all of my user settings?
[07:55] <agm_> no security updates for 7.04 final
[07:55] <wols_> JerseyMonkey: lspcmcia to check what chip it uses, possibly google to see what driver/chip it sues if the first step wasn't conclusive using the info gotten from step one
[07:55] <saketram> wols_: I do not miss any message.  But could not understand what to do.
[07:55] <clockwork> _Ahti: Hrm. OK, I guess I try and download the 6.10 disc and upgrade off of that...
[07:55] <wols_> then look if ubunut already has a howto, the driver, etc. google again if it doesn't
[07:55] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: Thankyou.
[07:55] <saketram> wols_: Since I accidently install smartmontools, Do I have to reinstall Ubuntu for security?
[07:55] <_Ahti> clockwork: I'm afraid you need to do a fresh install...
[07:56] <wols_> saketram: you do miss some of them
[07:56] <_Ahti> clockwork: Linux CD upgrades NEVER work... :P
[07:56] <wols_> saketram: no.
[07:56] <d2dchat> Is there a difference between Edgy and Fiesty or are they one and the same?
[07:56] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, I'm either misunderstanding your issue, or confused. Is it that you cannot see the entire network, or is it that you cannot see a specific host (or group of hosts) on the network? Or something else?
[07:56] <clockwork> _Ahti: blarg. Even worse.
[07:56] <tritium> d2dchat: there are not the same
[07:56] <_Ahti> agm_: I've experienced that too... Thats why i think twice before updating since it always slows me down
[07:56] <njero> d2dchat, Feisty is the latest version
[07:56] <_Ahti> clockwork: Yep.. You could look for a fix, but... :)
[07:57] <agm_> now i am thinking of reinstall or can i rollback
[07:57] <d2dchat> so in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321766 should I type
[07:57] <_Ahti> njero: Well, 7.10a exists :P
[07:57] <vzduch> chryss: why the double login?
[07:57] <saketram> wols_: your messages arrived here are only the following
[07:57] <d2dchat> bash ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/fiesty ?
[07:57] <saketram> wols_:  smartmontools  but I doubt it unlikely I already told you. scroll up, why should I want it? I have it already installed, and no that's not what I told you should do, you scroll up and learn to read what I said. you really need it, , you do miss some of them, no.
[07:57] <njero> d2dchat, ubuntu names its version using adjectives and animals starting with sequential letters: Breezy Badger, C C? Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Fawn
[07:57] <logankoester> Nutubuntu: I can't see the internet, but I am getting an ip address. I think the Vista machine doing NAT is messed up, rather than the ubuntu box
[07:57] <saketram> wols_: if I miss anything, i request you to repeat please.
[07:57] <njero> _Ahti, :)
[07:58] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, got it. And I agree.
[07:58] <melchior7> I'm still waiting for horny horse
[07:58] <JerseyMonkey> wols_: I typed in that command and received : 'Socket 0 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  (bus ID: 0000:03:01.0)"
[07:58] <mdious> logankoester:  i wouldn't trust windows anything to even boot up correctly let alone do NAT :P
[07:58] <d2dchat> njero, so do you know if the bash command then requires Ubuntu/fiesty instead of Ubuntu/Edgy?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> How do I re-install keeping all of my user settings? I have my /home on a separate partition
[07:58] <njero> A was something Armadillo right?
[07:58] <doms> wols_:  is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[07:58] <logankoester> mdious: you would if you had no choice :p
[07:59] <vzduch> njero: that scheme started w/ Breezy.. remember before there were the Warty Warthog and the Hoary Hedgehog
[07:59] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> hi im back again
[07:59] <mdious> Jordan_U:  I think you just install as normal, and specify that home partition you already have as home...
[07:59] <njero> d2dchat, I am not sure what you are asking... bash works in both...
[07:59] <mdious> logankoester:  I hope I'm never in the position where I have no choice :(
[07:59] <njero> vzduch, thanks
[07:59] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> i got  connect to the ssh on my ubuntu. Now how do i transfer files?
[07:59] <vzduch> njero: and there was none w/ the letter C
[07:59] <d2dchat> njero, well i'm wondering because I'm on Fiesty.. if I should modify that line from Ubuntu/edgy to Ubuntu/fiesty or if it doesn't make a difference
[08:00] <njero> !scp @ gbluntzer_ubuntu
[08:00] <njero> !scp
[08:00] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[08:00] <Nutubuntu> logankoester, I'd think seriously about putting a real router in place, instead of the Vista box. You can build one on an old 486, even. (IPcop, etc.)
[08:00] <ai3gtmc> how many server can a 47mbps connection can handle?
[08:00] <wols_> logankoester: what does route -n say, what is in resolv.conf?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> mdious, I just don't want to create a new user of the same name, and have it possibly overwrite my old user's folder
[08:00] <gbluntzer_ubuntu> so there  is nothing like mget, mput?
[08:00] <vzduch> d2dchat: normally: replace 'edgy' by 'feisty' in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run 'sudo apt-get update' and you're ready to dist-upgrade
[08:01] <wols_> d2dchat: both feisty and edgy come with bash. always
[08:01] <njero> gbluntzer_ubuntu, you can look at sftp for those
[08:01] <d2dchat> vzduch, I'm just trying to get this ATI driver to work in Fiesty
[08:01] <mdious> Jordan_U:  sorry I should have shut my mouth i haven't done it before so shouldn't try to give advice ;)
[08:01] <wols_> vzduch: no. use update-manager
[08:01] <logankoester> Nutubuntu: Ubuntu is running on a virtual machine hosted on my laptop, which I use for photoshop and so forth ;)
[08:01] <wols_> !updete-manager
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updete-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <vzduch> wols_: what's the difference apart from the update-manager supposedly being a graphical app?
[08:02] <JerseyMonkey> I typed in 'lspcimia' command and received : 'Socket 0 Bridge: [yenta_cardbus]  (bus ID: 0000:03:01.0)"
[08:02] <_Ahti> vzduch: If you did that you'd break your system
[08:02] <jhawk> gbluntzer_ubuntu try gftp ssh2 transfer
[08:02] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, IIRC it doesn't work like that. (Of course you should back up before reinstalling.) But when I upgraded (long time back) I kept my /home ... never changed username or p/w
[08:02] <wols_> vzduch: apt-get dist-upgrade rarely works nowadays
[08:02] <logankoester> wols_: Why does it matter? :)
[08:02] <qnyc> d2dchat, did you try to go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager, and enabling the ATI driver?
[08:02] <logankoester> The problem is the network device disappeared on the Vista machine
[08:02] <wols_> logankoester: suit yourself. my machines all have internet access
[08:02] <fiber> hello, i was wondering if anyone could give me some help setting up grub.  basically, i had ubuntu installed and then put XP on a separate partition but XP stole the MBR record so i can't get back into ubuntu (i'm on the liveCD right now)... anyone have any thoughts?
[08:03] <saketram> wols_: please make your attention to me too
[08:03] <Jordan_U> mdious, No problem, you said you weren't sure, so I understood that hadn't done it yourself , I was just hoping on the off chance you had :)
[08:03] <d2dchat> qnyc, no, nice.... haha should i disable the Atheros driver?
[08:03] <wols_> saketram: I do when you do what I told you about
[08:03] <saketram> wols_: I do not know what to do next?
[08:03] <vzduch> fiber: back up your /boot/grub/menu.lst, then run sudo grub-install
[08:03] <_Ahti> fiber: You shouldn't install linux first and windows second... -.-' You're going to have fun trying to fix it up :P
[08:03] <wols_> !grub | fiber
[08:03] <ubotu> fiber: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <logankoester> yeah, pay attention to him. I know you're trying to be helpful but you come off as kind of a dick
[08:03] <vzduch> fiber: and next time do as _Ahti says: install Windoze first
[08:04] <d2dchat> qnyc, disable that the Atheros driver, enable ATI driver and restart?
[08:04] <wols_>  /ignore logankoester
[08:04] <Flannel> Jordan_U: Just mount home and say "mount but don't format" or whatever the text is.
[08:04] <logankoester> then again, maybe my nicotine levels are just low
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, And that kept your preferences ( desktop background, applications whatever ) ?
[08:04] <wols_> d2dchat: do you have a atheros based wlan card?
[08:04] <qnyc> d2dchat, yeah, after you add the restricted ATI driver, it will prompt you to restart
[08:04] <mdious> Flannel:  what happens when you create another user with the same username...?
[08:04] <fiber> vzduch: haha, yea... i just figured that one out... better to learn from experience though... thanks
[08:04] <_Ahti> mdious: It won't happen.. :P
[08:04] <d2dchat> wolfeon, o, is the atheros driver not a graphics driver?
[08:04] <logankoester>  /ignore wols_
[08:04] <Flannel> Jordan_U, mdious, you're talking about during the install?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Flannel, I understand that, I just want to be sure that all I need to do is that and use the same user name as before
[08:04] <wols_> mdious: you get an error and no new user
[08:04] <logankoester> cheers, glad we can agree :)
[08:05] <qnyc> d2dchat, it's your wireless card
[08:05] <mdious> Thanks guys
[08:05] <d2dchat> qnyc, ah, i want to keep that ;)
[08:05] <mdious> Flannel:  I was thinking after install and then creating a new user...thanks for the advice and tips :)
[08:05] <wols_> d2dchat: what ati videocard exactly do you have?
[08:05] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, kept everything. I was nervous about overwriting the partition, and very careful not to, and very glad when the upgrade was done and all my stuff was still there  ... I remember that part pretty well ... (But *do* back up first if at all possible. Stuff happens.)
[08:05] <d2dchat> alright brb guys
[08:05] <d2dchat> thanks
[08:05] <d2dchat> wols_, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2423
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, It's all backed up, it is just preferences I am worried about, not data
[08:06] <sakiitram> wols_: this is the third time, I appear after restart of system due to system hang.  But still I do not know what to do to solve the system hang
[08:06] <Flannel> mdious: Actually, adding users defaults (with useradd anyway) to not create a homedir.  If you do, I believe it just copies the skeleton dir, so even if you have stuff already there, it won't matter.  As for how it works through users and groups, I don't know.  You could create a dummy uesrname, make him a homedir with something in it, then create him through users and groups and see.
[08:06] <Flannel> mdious: that's probably the best way t obe sure.
[08:07] <Flannel> Jordan_U: yeah, and you really don't even have to use the same username as before.
[08:07] <wols_> sakiitram: check your hardware. especially RAM. possibly acpi or apic
[08:07] <d2dchat> wols_, will that work?
[08:07] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, my last upgrade onto the existing machine was over a year ago, and the memory isn't fresh, but with a backup? I'd be pretty confident.
[08:07] <_Ahti> wols_: apic???
[08:07] <mdious> Flannel:  Thanks, I didn't know useradd didn't create a homedir by default :)
[08:07] <sakiitram> the engineers, just replaced the RAM and working for two hourse, but I do not find any difference.
[08:07] <sakiitram> what to do with acpi or apic?
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Flannel, That makes no sense, If I used a different user name how would it keep my user's preferences?
[08:07] <Flannel> mdious: you have to use -m
[08:07] <wols_> d2dchat: not totally sure if you need the ati or fglry. never can tell with those IGPs. is your card DX9 capable or DX8 only?
[08:08] <sakiitram> wols: do you want to do it in GRUB menu at kernel option?
[08:08] <Flannel> Jordan_U: you won't.  But your old data won't be removed.  You just wont be using it.
[08:08] <_Ahti> sakiitram: You could try disabing acpi...
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, I have no idea
[08:08] <mdious> Flannel:  ah that would explain it, I've never just done a 'useradd'....come to think of it I've always specified a home dir
[08:08] <_Ahti> disabling*
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, how can I find out?
[08:08] <sakiitram> _Ahti: ok , I shall do it
[08:08] <wols_> _Ahti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC
[08:08] <wols_> d2dchat: don't know. never owned a ati. I'd use google
[08:08] <d2dchat> wols_, well let me try this
[08:08] <_Ahti> wols_: AHHHH
[08:08] <Socks> Quick question: Can I downlaod Ubuntu, burn it to a disc, then boot from the disc on a windows PC?
[08:09] <d2dchat> wols_, will i die if this doesn't work? :)
[08:09] <wols_> d2dchat: if it's vista premium capable it'S dx9 for example
[08:09] <Flannel> Socks: yes, thats the normal method.
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> Socks, yes, from the live CD
[08:09] <wols_> Socks: of course!
[08:09] <whyameye> are there a bunch of .debs lying dormant somewhere in a directory from all the updates...which maybe I could delete for more disk space?
[08:09] <Socks> Cool
[08:09] <sakiitram> _Ahti: is this correct?
[08:09] <sakiitram> _Ahti: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=b35b933c-9d6c-4594-a469-4e3bc76e168f ro quiet acpi=off splash
[08:09] <wols_> whyameye: yes. man apt-get
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Flannel, I am not worried about Data at all, I am only worried about my user's preferences ( all in /home/me ) being preserved, so I assume that if I use the same user name it will use the same /home/me ( that or it will write a new /home/me and loose everything, which I want to be sure won't happen )
[08:09] <Flannel> whyameye: `sudo apt-get clean` or apt-get autoclean
[08:10] <d2dchat> wols_, well it's a 64 bit laptop, it was meant to have Vista installed on it when Vista was released, but I bought it pre-vista
[08:10] <whyameye>  wols_, Flannel: any reason not to clean them out?
[08:10] <sakiitram> _Ahti: will that disable acpi?
[08:10] <wols_> d2dchat: can it run aero?
[08:10] <Flannel> whyameye: if you reinstall the files, you'll need to re-download them
[08:10] <wols_> sakiitram: yes
[08:10] <imbecile> hey guys, i forgot how to change my icon themes.. i know its somewhere in system but i cant remember where.. any help?
[08:10] <d2dchat> wols_, what is aero?
[08:10] <_Ahti> sakiitram: What wols_ said :P
[08:11] <wols_> the new vista user interfaces. the trnasparency and stuff. like beryl
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Do you know how I can re-install and keep all my user's preferences intact?
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: your preferences ARE data.  If you use the same username, it'll use the new data (no overwriting), if you use a new username, the data will still be there (just not in 'your' home folder), although home folders are confgiurablee.
[08:11] <wols_> Jordan_U: backup your ~
[08:11] <sakiitram> _Ahti: he said yes, for my the following question
[08:11] <Lekrem> imbecile: System --> Preferences --> Theme
[08:11] <sakiitram> _Ahti: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=b35b933c-9d6c-4594-a469-4e3bc76e168f ro quiet acpi=off splash
[08:11] <wols_> sakiitram: I said yes about the kernel line question
[08:11] <_Ahti> sakiitram: I know... yes :D
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: Ive told you many times.  Use your hoemdir, mount, no format.  Use the same username to have that old homedir be your current homedir.
[08:12] <hd80gb> how stop all net activity with iptables?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Thank you, sorry, I just wanted to be clear
[08:12] <Lekrem> imbecile: then Customize
[08:12] <imbecile> Lekrem,  cool thanks
[08:12] <_Ahti> sakiitram: Altough now that you've disabled it you need to reboot.
[08:12] <agm_> imbecile:system>preference>theme>customize>icon
[08:12] <d2dchat> wols_, I'm going to reboot real quick
[08:12] <sakiitram> _Ahti; ok, thank you all.
[08:12] <sakiitram> soon back.
[08:12] <_Ahti> sakiitram: Hope it works
[08:13] <doms> wols_:  is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[08:13] <doms> is there a way to removed the php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 phpmyadmin with all the configuration settings to be remove?
[08:13] <SoulChild> is there a way to save the whole boot output into a file ?
[08:14] <vzduch> SoulChild: look at /var/log/boot.msg
[08:15] <SoulChild> vzduch: i only have /var/log/boot and much other logs but there is an error at boot, which is not listed in the logs
[08:15] <Flannel> doms: sure.  You need to use --purge.  But you also need to remove all the real packages, not just the metaones (like apache2-common, or apache2.2-common on feisty)
[08:15] <Nutubuntu> I'm trying to beat some information out of my tired brain ... there is a way to dump a list of the installed packages, and then use that list to install the same packages (to another computer) ... I thought it was a dpkg command but I can't find it or remember it ...
[08:15] <Flannel> doms: the apacheX-common package is the one that has all of the stuff in /etc/apache2, for instance.
[08:15] <_Ahti> SoulChild: What kind of error? Not all errors are deadly :P
[08:15] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: dpkg -l, but see !cloning
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> t/y Flannel
[08:16] <pyrak> can someone recommend a good bittorent client that allows more than one dl at once (i dont get why the default one doesnt)
[08:16] <SoulChild> _Ahti: that's the problem,... i can't read it, since my computer boots so fast
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> !cloning
[08:16] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[08:16] <wols_> doms: --purge them. apt-get remove --purge
[08:16] <Flannel> pyrak: the default one does, just not with the program that starts when you double click torrents.
[08:16] <vzduch> pyrak: KTorrent does
[08:17] <_Ahti> SoulChild: Assuming that since your here, the boot went fine... Therefore, as i said before. Not all errors are "important" :)
[08:17] <pyrak> flannel, well when i launch the default one by itself, it asks me to find it a meta file...
[08:17] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, it seems as if that same list (e.g., my-packages) could be fed to aptitude ... which I would prefer
[08:18] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: if aptitude has that functionality, sure.
[08:18] <predaeus_> SoulChild, probably you can hit the PAUSE key to freeze the computer while booting to read the text then press SPACE to continue, I do not know if this works though
[08:18] <vzduch> SoulChild: what do you mean by 'can't read it'? is it covered by the splash screen? if so, try booting w/o the 'splash' kernel option in Grub
[08:18] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, well, aptitude can take an argument list, e.g, sudo aptitude install <list of packages>
[08:19] <SoulChild> vzduch: no it's not covered
[08:19] <_Ahti> Who was it that wanted to find a list of installed packages?
[08:19] <SoulChild> predaeus_: i don't think, that this will work but anyway i'll try
[08:19] <the_undefined> Q: What options does one have when ubuntu freezes completely to kill the process that is causing it?
[08:19] <vzduch> what's your VGA resolution? (on the console)
[08:20] <SoulChild> vzduch: my?
[08:20] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: right, if you do the dpkg --get-selections, thats the cleanest version of a package list.  sed can quickly turn that into a space separated list for catting to aptitude
[08:20] <vzduch> SoulChild: yep
[08:20] <SoulChild> vzduch: 1024x768
[08:20] <predaeus_> SoulChild, works while BIOS comes up here, but maybe Linux eats the key input
[08:20] <vzduch> should be enough to read all msgs
[08:20] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, that's what I hoped :) that'll work.
[08:21] <SoulChild> vzduch: predaeus_: thanks for your help
[08:22] <BURTS> what is a good free ebook for beginner/novice guide for ubuntu server?
[08:22] <Flannel> BURTS: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[08:23] <Flannel> that's available in PDF too, if you want to download it
[08:23] <BURTS> Flannel: thank you, I will take a look at it right now.
[08:23] <SurfnKid> this is probably a stupid question
[08:23] <SurfnKid> but i must ask
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> !ask
[08:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:23] <SurfnKid> does ubuntu recognize the dual core 2
[08:23] <_Ahti> !ask | SurfnKid
[08:23] <ubotu> SurfnKid: please see above
[08:23] <GeekMaster1> Hi all. I was wondering how to turn my DHCP into a static IP address.
[08:23] <SurfnKid> as multitasking or not
[08:24] <SurfnKid> Intel says that in order for the chip to run into the Dual Core 2 Duo features, the software must be able to support it
[08:24] <_Ahti> Shouldn't you know? GeekMater1 (<---Note: The name...)
[08:25] <_Ahti> GeekMaster1*
[08:25] <Flannel> GeekMaster1: /etc/network/interfaces  : https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[08:25] <mdious> GeekMaster1:  you can do it with ifconfig or through system/administration
[08:25] <saintz0r> hey there. can anyone teach me or point me to a guide on how to upload stuff with rtorrent?
[08:26] <GeekMaster1> THANKS ALL
[08:26] <anon_510> yo waddup peeps
[08:26] <Nutubuntu> think theres an official riaa guide ,,, drop them an email and request it?
[08:26] <qnyc> SurfnKid, it is fully supported
[08:27] <jscinoz> How can i get my rt61 chipset WLAN card to work with WPA in network manager?
[08:27] <Flannel> !away > Maha`
[08:28] <_Ahti> jscinoz: As far as i know, NetworkManager doesn't support WPA... ??? (Please correct me)
[08:28] <_Ahti> jscinoz: And i share the same issue :P
[08:28] <anon_510> i burned ubuntu 7.04 to a boot disc and havde a dedicated hard drive for ubuntu but I cannot get ubuntu to boot can anyone tell me what the problem is?
[08:28] <predaeus_> SurfnKid, that is mostly the case with parallel computing. I would assume it is detected correctly but I do not know if feisty comes with an SMP enable kernel by default or if you would have to install one.
[08:28] <vzduch> work is calling, gotta run :)
[08:28] <vzduch> cu later
[08:29] <jscinoz> Network manager DOES support WPA, as my other laptop with a 2200BG works with WPA out of the box, its just rt61 based cards that it has issues with
[08:29] <diesel_power> help! name of the channel in spanish please!
[08:29] <Flannel> _Ahti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:29] <Flannel> !es | diesel_power
[08:29] <wilrecar71> my dapper drake distrobution wont show distro upgrades is update manager and id like to upgrade
[08:29] <ubotu> diesel_power: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:29] <tio22> any woman for cam???
[08:29] <wilrecar71> in*
[08:29] <Flannel> !upgrade | wilrecar71
[08:29] <ubotu> wilrecar71: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:29] <diesel_power> gracias ubotu
[08:29] <mdious> wilrecar71:  don't you have to change /etc/apt/sources.list to look at the new sources?
[08:29] <nomasteryoda> diesel_power, tractors are super
[08:29] <_Ahti> anon_510: Have you checked the md5sums? Could you have burned the disc wrong (happens too often), You know, you're supposed to burn it as an .ISO?
[08:29] <Flannel> wilrecar71: you need start update-manager with -c (I think, double check), because dapper is an LTS
[08:29] <wilrecar71> ok thank you
[08:30] <predaeus_> !bot | diesel_power
[08:30] <ubotu> diesel_power: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:30] <Flannel> mdious, wilrecar71, no changing sources list hasn't happened since breezy
[08:31] <Flannel> anon_510: "cant get it to boot" being what?  what does it look like?  does it boot at all? boot normally? black screen? what
[08:31] <thezenmaster> I need a new sound card. Which do you guys recommend? I'm on feisty
[08:31] <mdious> Flannel:  thanks last i did was breezy to dapper...
[08:32] <wols_> thezenmaster: SBLive
[08:32] <mdious> okay i'm going to go, no one needs my wrong advice lol
[08:32] <Flannel> mdious: that was the lats pre-update manager one.  So that'd be why.
[08:32] <imbecile> hey guys im trying to install an icon theme and when i click on the .theme file it says invalid format. this is it http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glass+Icons+Theme?content=32146
[08:32] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, I apologize for dull witted question, but why cat? Couldn't I 'sudo aptitude install < list-of-packages' ? (Once Ive made a space-delimited list)
[08:32] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: right.  I wasn't necessarily saying to use cat.  Just any means you feel like.
[08:32] <herbaliser> hi how can i resize my root partition?
[08:32] <thezenmaster> wols_ Sounblaster or audigy?
[08:33] <herbaliser> gparted live cd
[08:33] <Flannel> herbaliser: You need a liveCD, you can't play with mounted partitions
[08:33] <herbaliser> ?
[08:33] <qnyc> herbaliser, that will work
[08:33] <Nutubuntu> I like cats, and I need to learn better about 'cat' too. I've been playing with sed and grep, now it's cat's turn maybe.
[08:33] <herbaliser> I have 5 gig of free space left, do i need to create a file system on it first?  and then resize root?
[08:33] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: nah.  < is what you want.
[08:34] <predaeus_> thezenmaster, also see http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/  before deciding
[08:34] <wols_> thezenmaster: there is a SBLive Audigy?
[08:34] <herbaliser> using ext3
[08:34] <_Ahti> herbaliser: Something like Knoppix should do :)
[08:34] <PIPBoy_> bye all
[08:34] <Nutubuntu> Flannel, t/y again ... as always :)
[08:34] <wols_> thezenmaster: I mean the SBLive 5.1
[08:34] <Flannel> herbaliser: No, you'll expand root into it.  You don't create a partition first, just expand root to te free space, and it'll get absorbed
[08:34] <qnyc> herbaliser, is that your only partition?
[08:35] <thezenmaster> isn't that external?
[08:35] <qnyc> herbaliser, because if the free space isn't adjacent to root partition, you'll have to slide partitions over first
[08:35] <BURTS> where can i find a complete list of the CLI commands?
[08:35] <predaeus_> thezenmaster, ah sorry just realized that they do not update taht other list anymore http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[08:35] <herbaliser> i have /dev/hda1 ext 3 root /dev/hda2 extended /dev/hda5 swap and then 5 gig unused
[08:36] <herbaliser> and is /dev/hda1 is want to resize
[08:36] <herbaliser> it's a vmware disk is expanded
[08:36] <ivanAlvarez> #beryl
[08:37] <imbecile> hey guys im trying to install an icon theme and when i click on the .theme file it says invalid format. this is it http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glass+Icons+Theme?content=32146
[08:37] <thezenmaster> predaeus thanks for the list ;)
[08:37] <qnyc> herbaliser, yeah it's easy, slide over hda2, the resize hda1, but backup important data first!
[08:37] <herbaliser> gparted when i choose resize on the root disk, gives me free space left 0, free space right 0
[08:37] <the_undefined> Q: Still looking for solutions to recover from a frozen ubuntu -> anything like Ctrl+Alt+Del available? (sry for the blasphemy)
[08:37] <Flannel> herbaliser: The extra space you have is where?  not next to the root partition?
[08:38] <herbaliser> no
[08:38] <qnyc> herbaliser, as I said, you need to move hda2 to the right first
[08:39] <Maha`> ok. got it Flannel
[08:39] <imbecile> when installing an icon theme i use the .theme file to add it correct?
[08:39] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r
[08:40] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r
[08:40] <doms> its oki to manually remove my  apache directory like rm -r?
[08:40] <Nutubuntu> !repeat
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:40] <Flannel> doms: no.  Don't.  Remove the packages.
[08:40] <yellow_chicken> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 on G4.  i can't get into GUI  installation mode from live cd.  error: /bin/sh can't access tty: job control turned off
[08:42] <doms> Flannel:  coz when i reinstall the package  the configuratio still the same as my previos configuration
[08:43] <Flannel> doms: you need to purge the package, or "complete removal" with synaptic.  We've told you this already.  And this isn't just the metapackage (apache2), but also the real packages (apacheX-common)
[08:43] <Zenton> hi all
[08:44] <Zenton> every 6 months ubuntu packages are merged with debian
[08:44] <wols_> Zenton: no
[08:44] <Zenton> that means that gutsy will be merged with sid?
[08:44] <wols_> Zenton: no
[08:44] <verb3k_> guys I am having a problem in adding a user to samba ....when I use "sudo smbpasswd -a username"  to add a new user it asks me for a password and then outputs the following message :"Failed to modify password entry for user foobar"  ....what's the problem ? thanks in advance .
[08:44] <doms> Flannel: oki
[08:44] <wols_> every 6 montjhs, ubuntu takes sid and creates a release
[08:44] <doms> Flannel: how about his dependencies
[08:44] <imbecile> when installing an icon theme i use the .theme file to add it correct?
[08:44] <WeeJeWel> how can i make an edge in gimp from a straight line?
[08:45] <wols_> verb3k_: that user already exists in the DB
[08:45] <Zenton> wols_: so feisty is stable and has only security updates?
[08:45] <verb3k_> wols_,  oh ,,then how can I solve this ?
[08:45] <Flannel> doms: You only need to get the packages that bring in config files for that program.  Even if we're not using, say, libapr, we don't need to purge it, since it doesn't change the apache config files.  Really, all we need is to remove 'apacheX-common' with the purge
[08:45] <Flannel> Zenton: yes.  As is Edgy and Dapper.  Well, security and bugfixes.
[08:46] <wols_> verb3k_: change the user's pw
[08:46] <Zenton> aha, thanks Flannel and wolfs_
[08:46] <kitsuneofdoom> part
[08:46] <doms> Flannel: yes  i'am lighten  thank you very much :)
[08:46] <Zenton> does exist a prerelease live cd with gutsy?
[08:46] <Flannel> Zenton: Each release (and actually, a few months before release) there's a version freeze, see Gutsys (with links to previous ones, I believe): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[08:46] <verb3k_> wols_,  can you tell me please how to do that? I really appreciate your help
[08:47] <Flannel> Zenton: yeah, gutsy is already tribe2 (second alpha), hmmm, maybe tribe 3 by now.  You'll get precise info in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Zenton> Flannel: i see, thanks.
[08:48] <OmegaCenti> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: <Don't know if I should show this public key to the public or not> I am getting this error when reloading repositories
[08:48] <d2dchat> Hey im trying to get my ATI card to work with Xgl.. but whenever i login to an Xgl session, the graphics appear all funky.. can anyone help?
[08:48] <xenex> What's a program that supports DRM-protected wmv's through a stream?
[08:49] <Sp4rKy> OmegaCenti: check medibuntu.org and download the public key
[08:49] <OmegaCenti> Sp4rKy: Ah thanks :)
[08:49] <Sp4rKy> np
[08:49] <bonee> my sound is not working right
[08:49] <bonee> help plz
[08:50] <wols_> verb3k_: don't add a user, simply change the user
[08:50] <wols_> the user's pw
[08:51] <d2dchat> Wait, if your card does 2d acceleration only, can it not use Beryl?
[08:51] <crdlb> d2dchat, correct
[08:51] <crdlb> d2dchat, what card do you have?
[08:52] <verb3k_> wols_I know but how to do that ?
[08:52] <d2dchat> crdlb, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[08:52] <pyrak> anyone know of any way to "free" an ipod shuffle (2g)?
[08:52] <pyrak> i wanna play ogg on it
[08:52] <thill2708> how do I listen to shoutcast stations in amarok?
[08:52] <silvernode> Is there any program that will enable me to create 4 second clips of full length songs?
[08:52] <crdlb> d2dchat, you're not getting 3d acceleration with fglrx for some reason
[08:52] <Szeraax> silvernode: audacity
[08:53] <xenex> What's a program that supports DRM-protected wmv's?
[08:53] <silvernode> szeraax:I have that and did'nt even think of it
[08:53] <verb3k_> wols_ I know but how to do that ? sorry for the lot questions
[08:53] <Szeraax> silvernode: gald to help, if it helped :)
[08:53] <d2dchat> crdlb, is that a question or a statement? haha
[08:53] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[08:54] <perlmonkey> If I have a CPU showing clockspeed as 933Mhz is that likely to be a 1Ghz CPU or a lesser one?
[08:54] <thill2708> anyone?
[08:54] <crdlb> d2dchat, a statement, that's why Xgl looks weird
[08:54] <OmegaCenti> Sp4rKy: Worked like a charm. Thanks :)
[08:54] <d2dchat> crdlb, and it's because my card doesn't have 3d acceleration? :-/
[08:54] <crdlb> d2dchat, yes it does
[08:55] <d2dchat> crdlb, it does? How did you find out?
[08:55] <shiester_miester> anyone know how to do WAN between windows and linux using hamachi
[08:55] <crdlb> d2dchat, because I have a lot of experience with that chip
[08:55] <wols_> verb3k_: have you done man smbpasswd. what have you leanred?
[08:55] <crdlb> I'm 100% sure it has 3d support
[08:56] <wols_> verb3k_: or asked another way. what made you use -a?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, you are a god then =D
[08:56] <crdlb> d2dchat, but only using fglrx
[08:56] <OmegaCenti> My info command points to the man pages of commands. I don't think I am getting the info pages in other words. How would I go about getting the info pages?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, well i found a tutorial i think might help
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[08:56] <d2dchat> what do u think?
[08:56] <d2dchat> crdlb, they recommend that i use the open source driver
[08:56] <crdlb> d2dchat, no that's only for the free driver
[08:57] <crdlb> it doesn't provide 3d acceleration on your card
[08:57] <crdlb> you have to use the proprietary driver (fglrx)
[08:57] <d2dchat> crdlb, ah i see
[08:57] <d2dchat> crdlb, so can you help me diagnose the problem?
[08:57] <Szeraax> and that's why next time, get nvidia...
[08:57] <crdlb> d2dchat, maybe, join #ubuntu-effects
[08:58] <anTiX> is there an ubuntu package available for vhcs?
[08:58] <verb3k_> wols_,  I am a new ubuntu user ....how am I supposed to know all of this at once ? are you going to help me or not ?
[08:58] <Szeraax> anTiX: vhcs?
[08:59] <anTiX> Szeraax: www.vhcs.net it's a really good open source webhotel software imho
[08:59] <Sp4rKy> OmegaCenti: np
[09:00] <Szeraax> anTiX: ah, thanks
[09:00] <anTiX> Szeraax: np! I can recommend it after running it for 2 years..
[09:01] <Nutubuntu> what is the status of suns java for the a64 x2?
[09:01] <yo2k> ...
[09:03] <Pachelbel> grrrrr
[09:03] <Pachelbel> i don't want to auto-cnnect here
[09:03] <Pachelbel> :)
[09:03] <CheshireViking> Pachelbel, which irc client do you use?
[09:04] <Pachelbel> x-caht
[09:04] <Pachelbel> anyway, i've disabled it already
[09:04] <Pachelbel> thanks
[09:04] <CheshireViking> ok
[09:04] <verb3k_> !samba > verb3k
[09:04] <verb3k_> !samba > verb3k_
[09:05] <|_ocke> i need to edit the grub entry on my mbr
[09:06] <|_ocke> i am currently running off /dev/hdb1, but it defaults to hda1
[09:06] <Szeraax> |_ocke: so go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:06] <|_ocke> currently i have to view the list edit the entry and change root=/dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb1
[09:06] <|_ocke> i did
[09:06] <|_ocke> but it still is the same..
[09:06] <|_ocke> er wait
[09:07] <Nutubuntu> night all
[09:07] <Flannel> |_ocke: what do you mean by "goes to"?  the MBR stuff isn't affected by menu.lst
[09:07] <Nutubuntu> thanks, too :)
[09:07] <Szeraax> did you save it?
[09:07] <|_ocke> maybe i need to mount /dev/hda1 and edit it on there
[09:07] <Biohazard> Does anyone know what did wrong with my Amarok. Yesterday it worked fine, now it doesn't start. It stops working when the blue image appears. Reinstalling didn't fix the problem.
[09:07] <|_ocke> since im running off hdb1, i must have edited the one on this partition, which isnt loaded on boot
[09:07] <|_ocke> of course i saved it :)
[09:07] <wols_> verb3k_: why should I help you if you are too lazy to do some work yourself? if you want the work done for you without any effort of yours: hire a conslutant
[09:07] <Flannel> !grub | |_ocke
[09:07] <ubotu> |_ocke: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:08] <Szeraax> |_ocke: very possible
[09:08] <Flannel> first link, you need to make the stuff on MBR point to the other partition (reinstall it pointing to your new one)
[09:08] <|_ocke> ive been running linuxes for like 6-7 years, i dont forget stuff like saving or sudo, but sometimes i cant see the forest for the trees
[09:09] <yo2k> !gksudo
[09:09] <PIPBoy_> Can anyone pm me and give me information on how to use wine? im new and confused and cant seem to find an explanation...
[09:09] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[09:09] <CheshireViking> !wine > PIPBoy_
[09:09] <Szeraax> |_ocke: ok
[09:10] <|_ocke> i dont really intend to reinstall unless i get another machine entirely and am running it alongside this one
[09:11] <Flannel> |_ocke: you're reinstalling GRUB stage 1, not anything else.
[09:11] <PIPBoy_> Can anyone pm me and give me information on how to use wine? im new and confused and cant seem to find an explanation...
[09:11] <Flannel> PIPBoy_: read your query from ubotu, specifically the page linked from there
[09:11] <predaeus_> Biohazard, try runnin amarok in a terminal to see if it spits any error messages
[09:11] <poweruser1> Hello, I have two comps with Ubuntu (one Kubuntu) in my house. How would I network them?
[09:12] <|_ocke> otherwise i intend to keep the same installation with my settings and data, heck i even pulled the original install (/dev/hda1) from the previous machine (celeron 1ghz) and pt it in this athlonxp 3000+ and just changed the necessary devices hehe
[09:12] <Szeraax> poweruser1: are they on lan or direct connection?
[09:12] <Biohazard> predaeus_, yes he says "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 164"
[09:12] <poweruser1> It's over lan
[09:12] <poweruser1> One uses wireless
[09:12] <poweruser1> The other's directly in a router
[09:12] <mat1980> poweruser1: you have to install ntfs on one or both of them.
[09:12] <Flannel> poweruser1: theyre already on the same LAN?  then theyre already "networked"
[09:13] <Szeraax> what do you want to be able to do?
[09:13] <predaeus_> Biohazard, hm does it die with that or is this just an info message?
[09:13] <doms> unable to connect localhost   installing apache2
[09:13] <|_ocke> then i had memory and swapping issues so i installed a 80gb drive on top of this one and made a 4gb swap partition as /dev/hdb5
[09:13] <Szeraax> share files?
[09:13] <Szeraax> |_ocke: jealous
[09:13] <poweruser1> Yes
[09:13] <mat1980> poweruser1: ehm... not ntfs... nfs.. :-[
[09:13] <poweruser1> And the only network I see is a Windows one
[09:13] <Szeraax> |_ocke: i'm stuck with one 4200rpm hdd
[09:14] <predaeus_> Biohazard, copy the complete error message to a pastebin and keep the link handy. You can also ask in #kubuntu since amarok is kde.
[09:14] <Szeraax> poweruser1: well, you may be able to just right click on a folder and go to sharing or something and do it that way
[09:14] <Flannel> poweruser1: You mean sharing? not networking
[09:14] <poweruser1> Ah yes, sharing
[09:15] <wols_> |_ocke: you should have bought more RAM
[09:15] <Szeraax> poweruser1: are you able to try these ideas right now?
[09:16] <Biohazard> predaeus_, http://rafb.net/p/ARBNPX10.html
[09:16] <poweruser1> Yes
[09:16] <Szeraax> poweruser1: did you try the above?
[09:16] <poweruser1> I'm trying the share
[09:16] <Szeraax> ok
[09:17] <poweruser1> It prompted me to dl NFS so I am
[09:17] <Szeraax> alright
[09:17] <|_ocke> then i was down to like 100mb free on / so i mirrored the fs on /dev/hda1 (10gb) to the free space on /dev/hdb1 (75gb) and now am booting from hda1 still but making hdb1 root
[09:17] <|_ocke> i dont buy computer parts
[09:17] <|_ocke> i dont buy anything for computers
[09:18] <|_ocke> i inherit and acquire hardware, and i use nothing but free software
[09:18] <|_ocke> i have had this 2.1ghz box laying around for almost a year but had no ram for it, so i was using an athlon 850 with 512mb pc100, then a celeron 1ghz with that same 512 pc100
[09:18] <|_ocke> then i got ahold of another box which had a dead mobo but 256mb working ddr2 pc2700
[09:18] <|_ocke> so i dropped it in the athlonxp 3000+ and things were goood
[09:19] <anTiX> how do I set background color in a bash shell?
[09:19] <rohan> why is ubuntu's musicbrainz crippled ? can't i look up tag info of mp3 files ?
[09:19] <rohan> using amarok
[09:19] <Szeraax> anTiX: good question...
[09:19] <|_ocke> except when i ran out of memory it would be in paging hell for 10 minutes swapping stuff in and out and wouldnt respond for like literally 10-15 mins even to tryto kill the proc
[09:20] <|_ocke> so i gave it 4gb swap on the new disk and that solved all th ose problems
[09:20] <prya> tyrty
[09:20] <|_ocke> course it still was slowr thand it should be given the proc and video
[09:20] <wols_> |_ocke: invest 20$ and buy 512MB more ram
[09:20] <|_ocke> then i got another box with dead mobo and 1 dead 256 stick and 1 live 256 stick
[09:21] <|_ocke> so now i have 512mb pc2700,
[09:21] <|_ocke> plus 4gb swap and 75gb storage
[09:21] <anTiX> Szeraax: echo -e "\[\e\e40:" seems to do the trick :)
[09:21] <|_ocke> wols_, if i had $20 to spend on the computer i wouldnt be messing with all that in the first place
[09:22] <|_ocke> plus, 512mb pc2700 ddr2 is like 50-60 bucks
[09:22] <lor4x> hello, does anyone know of a good little tui program that tells you the bitrate of an mp3?
[09:22] <jetscreamer> mplayer
[09:22] <|_ocke> which is about the amount i make per month in addition to rent, which includes paying my electric bill and eating and smokes and whatever
[09:22] <Tomcat_> lor4x: TUI? :o
[09:23] <lor4x> Tomcat_: text user interface :)
[09:23] <Tomcat_> lor4x: That's CLI "Command Line Interface" usually. ;)
[09:23] <lor4x> Tomcat_: ah, okay...
[09:23] <lor4x> well then, does anyone know a good cli program that tells you the bitrate of an mp3?
[09:23] <wols_> |_ocke: first, there is no ddr2 pc2700. and: it's not
[09:24] <wols_> |_ocke: what socket amd?
[09:24] <blanky> anyone here have Enemy Territory installed? I'm not getting any sound from it, although my sound elsewhere in the system (Other programs such as Pidgin/Gaim) work fine
[09:24] <xenex> blanky, use oss
[09:24] <blanky> xenex: thanks!
[09:24] <|_ocke> i think its 472 or something, i havent taken the heatsink off and looked
[09:24] <blanky> xenex: will try that, I'll just switch it through the KDE interface thing
[09:25] <wols_> |_ocke: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144165 512MB DDR2 PC4200 at 21,49 from kingston
[09:25] <xenex> if that doesn't work, close other programs that use sounds
[09:25] <|_ocke> well its pc2700, and i was pretty sure it was ddr2 but i guess i could be wrong
[09:25] <wols_> |_ocke: if it's socket a, it's DDR1
[09:25] <enviouz> is there a way to browse the repos like you can with fedora?
[09:26] <roho> you can use synaptic
[09:26] <blanky> xenex: same thing, 'could not open /dev/dsp', and that close any other program that uses sounds method is stupid, my sound card supports multiple channels and I already checked that using a command
[09:26] <enviouz> ok ty
[09:26] <wols_> enviouz: packages.ubuntu.com, synaptic, aptitude, etc
[09:26] <_Ahti_> enviouz: You can browse throuhg the software by using SYnaptic
[09:26] <wols_> blanky: fuser /dev/dsp
[09:27] <blanky> xenex: I already did cat /proc/asound/pcm and it worked
[09:27] <blanky> I mean, it showed more than one
[09:27] <xenex> blanky, i'm a simple man. ;p
[09:27] <blanky> wols_: thanks will try
[09:27] <|_ocke> hardinfo says AMD Athlon XP/MP (Barton) 3000+ 2100.60MHz
[09:27] <wols_> DDR1 then
[09:27] <blanky> wols_: nothing haha
[09:27] <wols_> and yes, that'S damn expensive
[09:27] <PIPBoy_> i accidentally deleted my recycle bin, how do i get it back?
[09:27] <wols_> blanky: nothing what?
[09:28] <blanky> shows up
[09:28] <blanky> weird
[09:28] <enviouz> also if i update to the 2.6.22 kernel am i likely to have problems with packages built for fiesty?
[09:28] <blanky> probably cause no sound is playing at the moment?
[09:28] <wols_> where? what are you trying?
[09:28] <blanky> wols_: ... fuser /dev/dsp
[09:28] <wols_> enviouz: ubuntu kernel or self compiled?
[09:28] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, right click on the gnome panel go add to panel
[09:28] <wols_> blanky: are you in group audio? does /dev/dsp exist?
[09:28] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, find the trash, and add it
[09:28] <blanky> wols_: actually I don't think it does, no tab completion, how do I check the group?
[09:29] <|_ocke> wols_, well its ddr1 then, but i still cant afford to buy any :P
[09:29] <wols_> group
[09:29] <enviouz> ubuntu
[09:29] <blanky> wols_: oh yes it does
[09:29] <wols_> erm, groups
[09:29] <blanky> wols_: how do I find out if im in the group
[09:29] <blanky> oh okay
[09:29] <blanky> wolki: yeah i am
[09:29] <blanky> ls /dev/ | grep dsp shows dsp
[09:29] <enviouz> basically i need that kernel so i can fix the ati fast switching problem
[09:29] <blanky> so it's there
[09:31] <dchky> You are not likely to have problems with the newer kernel enviouz, providing it's built right that is, though you will have problems when it comes to using things like apt-get to do updates.
[09:31] <enviouz> oh ok
[09:32] <dchky> I'm not sure how Ubuntu acts when confronted with custom compiled kernels.
[09:32] <PIPBoy_> does anyone know if theres a specific shortcut key for the terminal? or do you have to create one?
[09:32] <x0qa> what's the keyboard shortcut to get a dialog window in which you can type your command to execute? and what's the name of the program?
[09:32] <dchky> Sorry the Update feature I mean.
[09:32] <enviouz> man i wish someone would build the packages for the new ati drivers and such it would make it very easy
[09:32] <dchky> Is .22 the only one that has what you want?
[09:33] <enviouz> well bryce made a package for the driver including the modules but its for the .22 kernel
[09:33] <cyberix> Is there a specific place for modules system admin adds to linux module blacklist?
[09:34] <enviouz> but now i cant even find the package
[09:34] <wols_> !blacklist
[09:34] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[09:34] <dchky> I say just download the .22 kernel and wait for Ubuntu to catch up then. Just add it to Grub and away you go.
[09:34] <cyberix> I would not want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist because then I get questions about it while updating
[09:34] <enviouz> k ty
[09:34] <Kprofthreat> !doesntwork | poweruser1
[09:34] <ubotu> poweruser1: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:35] <predaeus_> x0qa, alt-f2 in gnome, gnome-terminal?
[09:35] <Kprofthreat> Nope!
[09:39] <|_ocke> im accepting donations though if anyone is willing to help a poor linux nerd with only half a job and forced to teach people windows xp and office xp to earn what i do for rent and am not allowed to tell them im training them to be dependent and subservient to the one company that cares the least and infringes on the rights of their customers the most, while charging them as much and as often as  possible, even multiple times for the same software
[09:39] <|_ocke> i need some ram, possibly a better processor (though this one actually works great)
[09:39] <|_ocke> and a dvd burner at soem point
[09:39] <|_ocke> i have cd burners, dvdroms, a geforce fx 5500
[09:39] <Kprofthreat> !spam poweruser1
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam poweruser1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <[ThC] Primski> Boooooooooom!
[09:39] <|_ocke> oh i need a better nvidia card if anyone has one lying around hehe
[09:39] <Kprofthreat> !spam | poweruser1
[09:39] <[ThC] Primski> Boooooooooom!
[09:39] <ubotu> poweruser1: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:40] <nimbo> how do i activate smileys in xchat? /set text_emoticons ON doesn't work
[09:40] <Madpilot> I don't think xchat does graphical smileys. Thank God.
[09:41] <nimbo> it does
[09:41] <PIPBoy_> does anyone know if theres a specific shortcut key for the terminal? or do you have to create one?
[09:41] <PIPBoy_> and if so, how do i create a shortcut key?
[09:42] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, in gnome, go System->Prefs->Keyboard Shortucuts - I've mapped "open terminal" to the righthand menu key here
[09:44] <_Ahti_> I've got an USB-key here that had "died", I tried installing Puppy Linux on it and thus, formatted it (can't remember to what?) and now. I can't mount it... I can't access it... I can't use it.. Is there a way to "fix" it?
[09:44] <Prometheus> Hey guys, Is there an online multiplayer poker game that will run in ubuntu?
[09:45] <_Ahti_> Prometheus: Yeaah, just can't remember what it was called... PokerX? Try searching Synaptic
[09:45] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, no problem - but please ask before PMing, generally...
[09:45] <noiesmo> Prometheus, I use Pokerstars under wine
[09:46] <Prometheus> noiesmo: Does it run ok?
[09:46] <Madpilot> PIPBoy_, ask in-channel (ie here) before PMing...
[09:46] <Prometheus> _Ahti_: Can't find it there man... got kpoker?
[09:46] <noiesmo> Prometheus, yeah fine just down load the exe and get wine to install
[09:46] <BetaTester> Hi all. Anybody here familiar with ghostscript?
[09:47] <Prometheus> noiesmo: Thanks man :)
[09:47] <noiesmo> Prometheus, np :)
[09:47] <d2dchat> how do you get the apple-esk application bar ?
[09:47] <zak> i've got a logitech USB headset.. it seems to be detected by ubuntu [shows up in volume control/sound options] , but i can't get any sound to actually come through it [test button in sound preferences, and stuck on mute in volume control] .. any suggestions?
[09:47] <d2dchat> or at least what is it called?
[09:47] <cad> I reinstalled ubuntu and wanted to manipulate that script file that lets synaptic access the universe and multiverse servers. Any help? I only need to know the file name.
[09:47] <VoX> cad: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:48] <cad> Thank you Vox. Side question - so if Synaptic the gui front-end for the apt utility?
[09:50] <zak> grr
[09:50] <zak> brb
[09:52] <mat1980> cad: yes, Synaptic is only a front-end for apt
[09:53] <cad> Thanks for the info.
[09:54] <|_ocke> nimbo, it doesnmt do emoticons by default. i am thankful
[09:54] <|_ocke> i HATE it when chat progs replace text with little graphical emoticons
[09:54] <nimbo> |_ocke: so what do i have to change then? ^_^
[09:55] <|_ocke> half the time they arent even supposed to be emotes in the fist place
[09:55] <|_ocke> nimbo, are you using xchat-gnome, or real xchat?
[09:56] <nimbo> hm xchat 2.8.0
[09:56] <nimbo> i think real xchat
[09:56] <|_ocke> thats what im running
[09:56] <|_ocke> probably real then
[09:57] <enviouz> anybody that can give me a hand. just installed ati drivers from ati website but something still isnt right
[09:57] <|_ocke> do you see :) :( =) =( :P or are they little graphics?
[09:57] <nimbo> lol
[09:57] <nimbo> i know what graphics are
[09:57] <nimbo> :-P
[09:57] <nimbo> :-
[09:58] <nimbo> and i want EMOTICONS!
[09:58] <nimbo> ^_^
[09:58] <defrysk> argh!
[09:58] <leagris> !wuanta
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wuanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <|_ocke> you WANT emoticon graphics?
[09:58] <leagris> !quanta
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <enviouz> At next boot, Ubuntu will load an old version of fglrx, so you have to blacklist it by changing /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. When you have finished this last change, reboot and (hopefully) enjoy your 3-d acceleration. <---- whats the meaning of this im confised?
[09:58] <nimbo> i want EMOTICONS!
[09:58] <nimbo> :-D
[09:59] <|_ocke> oh... :P gross
[09:59] <|_ocke> i thought you were sick of them showing up
[09:59] <defrysk> lol
[09:59] <|_ocke> i was trying to figure out how they could be enabled to disable them
[09:59] <defrysk> I would be
[09:59] <|_ocke> em too
[09:59] <nimbo>  /set text_emoticons ON|OFF
[09:59] <|_ocke> i think they're retarded and annoying and completely unnecessary for anything :P
[10:00] <|_ocke> but if you really want them, you can run IRC in Gaim
[10:00] <nimbo> emoticons are funny :-P
[10:00] <leagris> Can someone help about using Quanta HTML editor in gnome environment. I have problems working with UTF-8 encoded documents because keyboard input bring unproperly encoded typing.
[10:00] <|_ocke> erm.. i dont see how
[10:00] <nimbo> irc on gaim? hm
[10:00] <|_ocke> they're little smileys and roses and stuff in the middle of an otherwise information-conveying sentence
[10:01] <nimbo> i like smileys -_-
[10:01] <PIPBoy_> i like...msn?
[10:01] <defrysk> nimbo, poor you ... ;p
[10:01] <mat1980> leagris: I never experienced problems with quanta in gnome
[10:01] <|_ocke> if emoticons in chat are an issue for you you'll probably find Gaim IRC a more user friendly experience and prettier anyways
[10:01] <PIPBoy_> (Q)
[10:01] <nimbo> :-P
[10:02] <leagris> mat1980, when typing  it gets  instead and so on with UTF-8 documents.
[10:02] <|_ocke> nimbo, no proper or standard irc client would ever have emoticons
[10:02] <nimbo> xchat does
[10:02] <|_ocke> only IM clients that support IRC as well
[10:02] <|_ocke> hmm
[10:02] <PIPBoy_> :)
[10:02] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i kill firefox in terminal?
[10:02] <nimbo> killall firefox-bin
[10:02] <defrysk> nimbo, http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q224
[10:02] <PIPBoy_> <3 nimbo
[10:02] <d-b> Do you know how I can configure my screen resolution to go down up to 640x480?
[10:02] <dotx> hello
[10:02] <imbecile> nimbo,  thanks
[10:02] <|_ocke> what with auto-replace?
[10:03] <mat1980> leagris: I do a try, wait a moment
[10:03] <leagris> mat1980, already present UTF-8 display ok but there is problem with keyboard input.
[10:03] <enviouz> nobody knows?
[10:03] <|_ocke> d-b, ctrl-alt- (+/-) on numpad
[10:03] <nimbo> defrysk: so what does "at install" mean
[10:03] <|_ocke> if your xorg is set up with multiple resolutions
[10:04] <|_ocke> enviouz, knows what
[10:04] <|_ocke> all ive seen you say for like 15 mins is 'anybody knows?'
[10:04] <|_ocke> dont even know wajt youre asking about
[10:04] <enviouz> At next boot, Ubuntu will load an old version of fglrx, so you have to blacklist it by changing /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. When you have finished this last change, reboot and (hopefully) enjoy your 3-d acceleration. <---- whats the meaning of this im confised?
[10:05] <enviouz> it says old contents there isnt anything there
[10:05] <gordonjcp> enviouz: that doesn't matter
[10:05] <enviouz> 3d acceleration still isnt working
[10:06] <gordonjcp> enviouz: did you follow the instructions?
[10:06] <d-b> |_ocke, the thing is that the Resolution is not available in the menu
[10:06] <enviouz> to the letter
[10:06] <|_ocke> that means when you get done with the set of steps its describing, reboot it will load the old ati driver by default, so you ahve to tell it not to load the old module explicitly
[10:06] <gordonjcp> so you've blacklisted fglrx?
[10:06] <mat1980> leagris: ok. you could fix using &#232; in the html. is your keybord layout properly configured?
[10:07] <gordonjcp> lastlog leagris
[10:07] <leagris> mat1980, yes it is. There are no problems with GTK/gnome applications
[10:07] <gordonjcp> bah
[10:07] <enviouz> just simply put fglrx in disabled modules or waht? it says include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx" where somemodule2 is the old contents of that line. but there isnt anything tehre.
[10:08] <gordonjcp> leagris: sounds like quanta specifically isn't working properly
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: right
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: so think about this carefully
[10:08] <south01> hi, what is to best program to transfer music to my ipod
[10:08] <gordonjcp> replace "somemodule2" with whatever has already been blacklisted
[10:08] <|_ocke> d-b, try editing your x config
[10:08] <|_ocke> erm lemem se
[10:08] <gordonjcp> enviouz: so if there's *nothing* already blacklisted...
[10:08] <leagris> gordonjcp, indeed. Kedit itself as no problems with UTF-8 input. Only Khtml/Quanta+
[10:09] <gordonjcp> enviouz: what does that suggest you do?
[10:09] <|_ocke> add "640x480" to the line for the color depth you use
[10:09] <enviouz> put the old mobule in?
[10:09] <|_ocke> or does that mean anything to you?
[10:09] <gordonjcp> leagris: kde/qt apps are a bit out of my field of expertise, but I'd be looking for separate i18n settings for khtml
[10:09] <gordonjcp> enviouz: is the bit that says "DISABLED_MODULES=" there?
[10:10] <south01> hi, what is to best program to transfer music to my ipod
[10:10] <gordonjcp> south01: iTunes
[10:10] <south01> are there any iTunes for ubuntu?
 any that you know how to work
[10:11] <|_ocke> south01, no
[10:11] <CheshireViking> !ipod | south01
[10:11] <ubotu> south01: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:11] <|_ocke> and you dont want it
 itunes suck
[10:11] <cad> In synaptic, where the hell is slime?
[10:11] <enviouz> yes it says DISABLED_MODULES="" and thats it
[10:11] <|_ocke> the whole point of linux is to be free to do what you want with your computer, and do it for free
[10:11] <rausb0> !rockbox
[10:11] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[10:11] <south01> let me check this adress
[10:11] <south01> thanx
[10:11] <mat1980> leagris:  I guessed. So it's a quanta problem. Have you any other kde app installed? have you there the same problem?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> south01: no, but it *is* the best program for getting tunes onto your iPod
[10:12] <|_ocke> not to pay for some company to tell you when, where, and how many tiems you can listen to your music
 and m4p is gay
[10:12] <gordonjcp> insmod: I don't use an iPod
[10:12] <leagris> mat1980, have all the KDE stuffs installed because I worked within KDE some time ago.
[10:12] <Noah0504> What's the easiest way to upload files to my server via SSH?
[10:12] <gordonjcp> insmod: if I want digital audio, I'll use minidisc
 then don't help
[10:12] <south01> i see..
[10:12] <leagris> mat1980, could you reproduce the UTF-8 input wierdness?
[10:12] <south01> but..
[10:12] <d-b> |_ocke, trying it. BRB
[10:12] <south01> i got amarok
[10:12] <south01> it cannot see my ipod
  and it is not the best
[10:13] <mat1980> leagris: no, I can't. can you teach me?
[10:13] <south01> !rockbox
[10:13] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[10:13] <|_ocke> you do not want to use DRM protected music
 it can
[10:13] <south01> i said connect..
[10:13] <south01> but no thing happens
  you have to show it the place in configure
  /media/xxxxxx
[10:14] <|_ocke> its only a matter of time befoer they will decide they dont like the way you have the freedom to copy your music to 5 devices, eevn though it will delete it on the previous device so you can only have it on one at a time, and they will make you buy it every time you want to download it again or pcopy it to another computer or device
[10:14] <|_ocke> so itll be $1 to get it on you computer, then if you wanmt it on your 'ipod' itll be another $1, then if you want to send it to your friend over the net itll be another $1
[10:15] <|_ocke> then if you burn an audio cd with it itll be another $1
[10:15] <gordonjcp> south01: I *think* you have to install a separate package called "ipod"
[10:15] <gordonjcp> south01: it's been a while since I've set this up, and it was for someone else anyway ;-)
[10:15] <south01> hmm..
[10:15] <south01> let me try more
  hey if i need bad sound i will ask u next :)
  no you don't
[10:16] <south01> i think i've done it..
[10:16] <south01> i entered the path manually..
[10:16] <south01> and it recognizes
[10:16] <gordonjcp> south01: cool, and you can see your iPod correctly?
  there you go
[10:16] <PIPBoy_> how do i delete files from the command line? specifically folders?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: rmdir
[10:16] <south01> yes
[10:16] <leagris> mat1980, open quanta, go to menu Settings/Configure Quanta select environment Icon in left side then set Default character encoding to utf8. After that, create a new xhtml/xml document and try typing some accentuated characters    ...
[10:17] <|_ocke> screw apple and sony and their trying to tell us how we can use what we paid for, and thinking they are so big and bad and the only place we can get what we want to listen to that they should rent their content to the user
 if you want it to do it with out entering  that edit fstab
[10:17] <south01> whats that?
[10:17] <south01> i iwll try to add music now
[10:17] <insmod> south01> file system tab
[10:18] <mat1980> leagris: it was already configured to use utf-8 ad default. It works.
  who rocks :)
[10:19] <|_ocke> they are spitting in their customers faces
  linux 11 yrs i can't go wrong
[10:19] <|_ocke> it was illegal for them to not let people buy VCRs and record the movies they owned back in the 80s, why should it be legal for them to not let people buy the music file without conht
[10:19] <PIPBoy_> how do i delete files from the command line? specifically folders with items in it? like root protected folders
[10:19] <|_ocke> without controlling how it can be used and monitoring where and when it is, and keeping track of every time you play it
[10:19] <CheshireViking> !offtopic
[10:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:19] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, rm -fR (dir)
[10:19] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: I already told you
[10:20] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: rmdir
[10:20] <|_ocke> that will delete the directory and everything in it without discretion
[10:20] <|_ocke> so be careful
[10:20] <gordonjcp> remove the contents first
[10:20] <|_ocke> and every thing under it
[10:20] <andruk> i cant get a reiserfs partition to show up in "Computer".  here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26710/
 in canada we pa a sir tax for that
[10:20] <gordonjcp> don't use rm -rf unless you absolutely, totally entirely know what you're doing
 in canada we pay a sir tax for that
[10:20] <neocortex> Hello, does anyone had problems installing skype?
[10:20] <|_ocke> insmod, for mp3s?
 yup
[10:21] <|_ocke> gordonjcp, well of course not, but if you really need to thats hwo its done
 a tax added on all media capable devices
[10:21] <|_ocke> insmod, how do you pay a mp3 tax?
[10:21] <PIPBoy_> gordon, i keep getting an error message saying "directory not empty"
 anything that holds data has a tax
 that is paid to the recording industry
[10:22] <|_ocke> is it like you pay extra for any computer, stereo, mp3 capable car cd player, portable mp3 player, memoy card, usb flash disk, etc?
[10:22] <zaphands> Hello. How do I change the remote desktop port?
 yup
[10:22] <|_ocke> oh god, that really bothers me
[10:23] <PIPBoy_> -_-
 works well
[10:23] <|_ocke> i really dont think the RIAA deserves anything for my usb flash disk or my mp3 player or my computer or any of that
[10:23] <|_ocke> only a part of what i pay for music
[10:23] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: yes, but in general, if you need to ask how to remove a whole bunch of root-owned directories with contents, you probably shouldn't be doing that
 they did in canada and us when tape recorders came in
[10:24] <gordonjcp> PIPBoy_: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[10:24] <|_ocke> so basically you pay for a right to download and use pirated music and such
 for freedom not to use ituse -- ithink it is
[10:24] <|_ocke> since you pay the tax on devices, they shouldnt be able to say anything about downloading the content since you alerady pay for the right to  use it
 :) that's right
[10:25] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: the problem isn't piracy, it's that mp3, free software and cheap hosting has massively lowered the barrier-to-entry for musicians
[10:25] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: and now musicians don't need to pay their tithe to the RIAA/BMI/whoever
[10:26] <|_ocke> yeah so anybody can make music if they have the dedication
[10:26] <|_ocke> thats a good thing
[10:26] <rbs-tito> gordonjcp: More artists should sign with Magnatune
[10:26] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: yes, and literally for free
[10:26] <|_ocke> we might actually get some talented artists now
[10:26] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: magnatune rocks
[10:26] <|_ocke> instead of just the corporate sponsored inheritors of the rigth to sell crappy music and movies
[10:26] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: so does Jamendo, if you like French trip-hop
[10:26] <ziroday> can someone have a look at this script and tell me whats wrong??
[10:27] <gordonjcp> you can pick up a PC from a skip that's good enough to run some audio software
[10:27] <rbs-tito> gordonjcp: Indeed it does, rhythymbox integrates it well: if you use Amarok with magnatune then Amarok get a % of proceeds, shame rhythymbox doesn't have a similar deal
[10:27] <gordonjcp> download Ubuntu Studio, and you're good to go
[10:27] <gordonjcp> rbs-tito: nice!
[10:28] <rbs-tito> Maybe if we use the rhythymbox interface more it will show them that rhythymbox has a substantial share of the market, or is going that way
[10:28] <|_ocke> yeah, well if the RIAA doesnt support or help promote the artists, how do they deserve any sort of profit off of the creators who do all the owrk themselves, or off of the listeners who are downloading and listening to original content licensed by its actual creators
[10:28] <|_ocke> XMMS plz
[10:29] <rbs-tito> I dream of the day Ubuntu finally becomes so big that Gnome overtakes KDE, and KDE apps aren't the most heavily developed. Amarok and K3B are good, but use hideous QT3 UIs
[10:29] <|_ocke> ive been trying amarok today because i ended up with an album i havent had a working version of in years in WMA format
[10:29] <andruk> i cant get a reiserfs partition to show up in "Computer".  here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26710/
[10:29] <|_ocke> and it isnt supported in xmms without some plugin
[10:30] <andruk> anybody know much about reiser?
mount it
[10:30] <|_ocke> and to be honest i dont really want it to support wma because i despise anybody that would encode anything in wma, much less distribute it in the godawful format
[10:31] <andruk> insmod: its mounted.  it does not show up in "Computer"
[10:31] <|_ocke> i bet standard wma has some flags in it that in a couple years, microsoft is going to flip so that every single time anybody plays a wma file it contacts them and if they dont have a license fot the\
[10:31] <linux_user400354> how can i add files to an iso?
[10:31] <andruk> insmod: i have to navigate to /mnt/storage to access it
[10:31] <|_ocke> for the file on record, they send the cops to your house to try to collect for them
[10:32] <|_ocke> since MS is in the process of alienating their own customers right now and driving them to any other alternative that doesnt inspect every single action you try tot take and ask for confirmation while it alerts MS of your risky behavior
[10:32] <Tony_> How do you enable loging in as root from the login screen. I made allowroot=true but it still doesn't work. I am using xubuntu
[10:32] <wilrecar77> when i update my system, for repeated programs it says the locale settings failed and its reverting back to "c". is this good or bad
 lol i hate gnome so no idea - i use enlightenment blackbox etc
[10:33] <rbs-tito> Tony_: run "sudo passwd"
[10:33] <|_ocke> so they can sell the appropriate advertiser your contact info to sell you software that will supposedly close the hole you are paranoid about since ms has been telling you every 10 minutes that you are vulnerable andyou have to let it block such dangerous requests for outside information
[10:33] <Tony_> Won't that just change the password?
[10:33] <CheshireViking> !root  | Tony_
[10:33] <ubotu> Tony_: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:34] <ziroday> |_ocke: can u rant on offtopic please
[10:34] <rbs-tito> |_ocke: I find it rather arrogant that Microsoft now have the nerve to sell an antivirus. They charge you to guard against holes they left open!
[10:34] <Tony_> I already set the root password though.
[10:34] <wilrecar77> ms sells an antivirus?
[10:34] <rbs-tito> Tony_: Yes, but root account doesn't work in ubuntu unless you do it
[10:34] <rbs-tito> wilrecar77: Yeah, Windows live Onecare
[10:35] <wilrecar77> i bet it isnt any good
[10:35] <andruk> insmod: yeah, the developers can be kind of retarded sometimes.  like every mount point being in the /media dir/.  why couldnt they make hds in the /mnt, and temporary storage in the /media?  lol...too bad,
[10:35] <CheshireViking> !sudo | Tony_ , this was the one I meant
[10:35] <ubotu> Tony_ , this was the one I meant: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:35] <|_ocke> btw im not bitter at all, and definitely dont think microsoft is preying on the naievity of its very user base who think their only choice is microsoft and that antivirus is something that every computer needs, along with 3 or 4 anti-malware programs, and that you have to restart your computer anytimer you install anything
[10:35] <wilrecar77> just another way to make money
[10:35] <|_ocke> and that your computer will always get slow if it is running for 4-5 hours no matter what and you'll have to restart
[10:35] <wilrecar77> although microsoft isnt a bad company so it works as an antivirus
[10:35] <andruk> |_ocke: linux is not without virii
[10:36] <|_ocke> andruk, i know
[10:36] <|_ocke> andruk, but do you knhiow anyone that has ever gotten one not on purpose?
[10:36] <rbs-tito> andruk: Realistically, it is. The difference is how fast things get patched in Linux.
 ha ya it is
[10:36] <andruk> rbs-tito: now that i can believe
[10:36] <|_ocke> and can they really infect more than the initial computer the virus is INSTALLED on
[10:36] <andruk> cough cough IE6 anyone?
[10:37] <rbs-tito> andruk: Yeah, they patched it with a skin and a broken tab feature!
[10:37] <|_ocke> andruk, yaeh IE6 is a pretty nasty virus, luckily we dont have that one for linux
[10:37] <rbs-tito> andruk: Renamed it IE7
[10:37] <andruk> yeah, wtf, it looks terrible now, and is really hard to use!
 agaisn yes it is
 again yes it is
[10:37] <rbs-tito> I know, have you seen it in Vista?
[10:37] <rbs-tito> -pukes
[10:37] <andruk> |_ocke: lmao, thats awesome
[10:38] <PIPBoy_> yuck
[10:38] <PIPBoy_> vista is so broken right now
[10:38] <rbs-tito> |_ocke: Nah, the virus has been upgraded. it is now known as IE7, it infects your system by guising as a critical update.
[10:38] <PIPBoy_> i recieved my free copy from circut city (through an employee :D)
[10:39] <Tony_> Okay, so I extracted an archive into a folder under root, and now I cannot access it under my normal acount, how do I set permissions so that I can use it?
[10:39] <PIPBoy_> and it wasnt worth the gas...
 hello -- answer
[10:39] <andruk> i tried to find a network printer on a friends vista computer the other day...didnt work.  debian "just worked"...
[10:39] <rbs-tito> Tony_: Right click it as root, or run chmod
[10:39] <|_ocke> and they got rid of halof the buttons that are necessary for web navigation
[10:39] <|_ocke> andruk, you like that? :)
[10:39] <|_ocke> thats exactly how i feel
[10:39] <|_ocke> not to mention, how it is
 wha?  im sorry, what?
[10:39] <gordonjcp> |_ocke: ies4linux ;-)
[10:39] <|_ocke> vista has been, and always will be broken
[10:39] <|_ocke> so long as it operates anywhere near the way it does now, or how they intend to in the future
[10:40] <|_ocke> in order to make vista usable, they would have to make it create a virtual machine for every session, or at least for every network enabled application, and run it inside a sandbod
  linux can't get ( true) _ viruses
[10:40] <|_ocke> sandbox by default
[10:40] <PIPBoy_> could you give me your 2 cents on why vista ( or just windows in general) is so broken?
[10:40] <|_ocke> sine
[10:40] <Costel> hi! how can i do when i'm adding a new system user to automaticaly create a folder in its home dir?
[10:40] <Ind[y] > To any Ubuntu developers who possibly may be here: Is, the complete removal of the Keyring Manager and stuff related, planned to be released in an update, or with the next Ubuntu version?
[10:41] <rbs-tito> Ind[y] : I haven't heard that, security risk?
 ?
[10:41] <andruk> insmod: oh, sry, i thought you were still talking about how stupid gnome is.  sorry.
[10:41] <|_ocke> PIPBoy_, for one, it has no intelligence, it just assuems that anything that requests a network connection must be evil (unless its a microsoft product, in which case it allows it to connect and install anything it wants to any folder on the drive)
[10:41] <ziroday> Ind[y] : try ubuntu+1 its where all the devs are
[10:41] <Ind[y] > rbs-tito: No, it just creates more problems than it solves.
[10:41] <|_ocke> so any
[10:41] <Ind[y] > ziroday: ok, thanks.
[10:41] <andruk> insmod: um...well, i bet if you really tried, you could make virii for just about everything
[10:42] <|_ocke> anybody can utilize that to install whatever they want, be it a virus, keylogger, trojan, whatever, as along as they say they are microsoft, or run via a microsoft application
  no u said linux can get viruses -- you are wrong
[10:42] <Tony_> How can I do root task outside of terminal?
[10:42] <rbs-tito> Ind[y] : It is still being packaged according to Launchpad
[10:42] <|_ocke> besies that, you cant get your time updated via a network time server without unblocking it
[10:42] <Ind[y] > rbs-tito: ok
[10:42] <|_ocke> every time
 no
[10:43] <andruk> insmod: i did say that.  i am sure there are a few virii for linux out in some dusty corner of the web.  they are probably used for testing purposes only
[10:43] <leagris> mat1980, back, moved away .kde .kderc .qt from my home, logged in kde session and retryed quanta. Same problem with UTF-8. My locale setting is fr_FR.UTF-8@euro
 nope
[10:43] <andruk> insmod: why cant linux get virii?
[10:43] <rbs-tito> andruk: There are less than 10, each was created in a lab and required compiling against the kernel as root. Even then it was unable to spread
[10:43] <ziroday> andruk: these loads of reports on the web, google it
[10:43] <|_ocke> and any OS that uses half your cpu and memory resources just to run is broken
[10:43] <CheshireViking> !virus | andruk
 it is resticted to root
[10:43] <ubotu> andruk: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:44] <J-_> is it possible to add another email to a PGP key?
[10:44] <|_ocke> andruk, the only way you can get a virus is if you download  it, log in as root, install the virus, and give it permission to install on every other computer it would otherwise infect
 and distros hadle that -- but ubuntu -- that i hat -- but the wife loves
[10:44] <acuster> hey all, anyone have an idea why after kernel updates my menu.lst without UUID can't ever boot? I'm on Feisty updated from Edgy?
[10:45] <ziroday> acuster: did u use automatix
[10:45] <andruk> reading link...
[10:45] <mat1980> leagris: my locale setting is it_IT
[10:45] <acuster> ziroday, don't know what that is
[10:45] <doms> help my apache is broken
[10:46] <ziroday> acuster: did you have any non ubuntu repos?
[10:46] <|_ocke> since no sane linux user would be logged in as root except for special purposes, and when they are, probably woudnt decide at that point to ./configure, make, and make install linux.virus.chmodme the virus they got in their email that said it was a picture that they had to compile and install
[10:46] <mat1980> doms: what happened?
[10:46] <acuster> ziroday, possibly
[10:46] <rbs-tito> You know the grub entry for system recovery, or something like that, would you argue it is a security risk?
[10:46] <|_ocke> and if they would do that, they wouldnt have a working linux install in the first place :D
[10:46] <acuster> but not in the recent updates
[10:46] <ziroday> acuster: youre meant to delete them an uninstall software before updating
[10:47] <ziroday> acuster: i mean upgrading
[10:47] <andruk> Of course this doesn't mean that there can never be a Linux virus epidemic.[2]  It does mean, however, that a successful Linux virus must be well-crafted and innovative to succeed in the inhospitable Linux ecosystem.
[10:47] <acuster> why would that affect the boot process not recognizing the /dev/hd* partition names?
[10:47] <J-_> is it possible to add another email to a PGP key?
[10:48] <acuster> I have two http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ repos
[10:48] <rbs-tito> andruk: Something the article doesn't mention is how in closed source security flaws are noticed by crackers and users getting infected. In open source security flaws are usually found by developers and volunteers before the package is released.
[10:48] <acuster> for google earth and amarok, neither of which I use: /me uninstalls
[10:49] <doms> mat1980: i dont know
[10:49] <gordonjcp> andruk: it's essentially impossible for Linux-based OSes to get a virus
[10:49] <leagris> mat1980, thanks, found the bug is related to locale settings. Using LOCALE=fr_FR or LOCALE=fr_FR.UTF-8 is ok in quanta, but when switching to LOCALE=fr_FR.UTF-8@euro it can no longer enter UTF-8 characters in the editor. Would you try this with LOCALE=it_IT.UTF-8@euro ?
[10:49] <andruk> rbs-tito: true, but just as security flaws got past mircosoft engineers (they arent retarded, just lazy), they could make it past open source
[10:50] <gordonjcp> andruk: it's *technically* possible, but practically it's not possible
[10:50] <Sp4rKy> acuster: you should _not_ use medibuntu.sos-sts.com anymore
[10:50] <|_ocke> 24. How do I enable graphical smilies (emoticons)?
[10:50] <|_ocke> This feature is only available in the official Windows XChat release.
[10:50] <Sp4rKy> acuster: check out medibuntu.org to update
[10:50] <andruk> i wouldnt say that
[10:50] <|_ocke> no emoticons in linux xchat
[10:50] <|_ocke> because no real linux user would have emoticons in irc
[10:50] <andruk> gordonjcp: i wouldnt say that.  you never know whats in the wild.  *puts on tinfoil hat*
[10:51] <rbs-tito> andruk: Maybe, but one or two pairs of eyes aren't likely to spot a flaw. Plus Microsoft engineers aren't paid to do that, they make a package, they get a check.#
[10:52] <|_ocke> andruk, there are no linux viruses in the wild, there are only lab-created ones that are only capable of infecting other computers in a controlled environment where the other computers are designed to be able to accept and install the virus
[10:52] <andruk> rbs-tito: true, at least in open source, you can have (theoretically) every single honest programmer look at it and modify it
[10:53] <gordonjcp> andruk: no, it really is practically difficult to create a viable Linux virus
[10:53] <andruk> |_ocke: thats true, but that doesnt necessarily mean that there couldnt be
[10:53] <bjwebb_> hi, can someone help me get my virtual terminals back
[10:53] <gordonjcp> andruk: part of the problem is that it's such an enormous pain in the hole to install software on Linux...
[10:54] <J-_> Is it possible to add 2 email addresses to 1 OpenPGP key?
[10:54] <bjwebb_> hello?
[10:54] <|_ocke> last i remember reading there were 6 or 7 viruses created for linux, they all required specifically created conditions and access rights on the computers to be infected that would never exist on any real linux system except maybe linspire
[10:54] <echelon> hi there!
[10:54] <Bubulle_> mat1980, I'm back from net outage :)
[10:54] <bjwebb_> i seem to have lost my virtual terminals
[10:55] <bjwebb_> how do i get them back?
[10:55] <echelon> can anyone help me please? Im having trouble setting up the cube in compiz.
[10:55] <ziroday> can someone help me with a bash script http://pastebin.com/933920, i get this error code - ./hack1: line 50: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[10:55] <|_ocke> andruk, and in short, eys, it does mean that there necessarily could NOT be a virus which has anybearing on any system that isnt specifically set up to be vulnerable to it, or has it explicitly installed on it as root
[10:55] <leagris> mat1980, if you talked to me the lasts minutes, I was disconnected.
[10:56] <andruk> one of the reasons (besides being an easy target) is that M$ Win is the largest marketshare (cough: monopoly).  that means that most people will write virii for windows.  for the present climate, it is not economically viable to write "real" (viable) virii for linux or mac.  this still does not preclude that it cannot be done.
[10:56] <bjwebb_> *cough
[10:56] <rbs-tito> andruk: Nah, thats what windows users say to make themselves feel big
[10:56] <bjwebb_> andruk:doesn't linux run on 50% of servers or something
[10:56] <bjwebb_> isn't that a big engouh tarket?
[10:57] <rbs-tito> andruk: Linux has a bigger share on servers, the most lucrative targets. Yet LAMP viruses are unheard of
[10:57] <|_ocke> the way linux works is, programs cannot change data unless they have specific access to it. no userlevel program will ever have access to any data that involves the system in any way
[10:57] <rbs-tito> !server
[10:57] <andruk> bjwebb: yeah, but those servers have been locked down by (hopefully) professionals.  the target for virus writers is grandmas running win 95
[10:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[10:57] <wols_> andruk: while this is partly true it falls down when you look at things like apache. that has 50%+ marketshare compared to IIS that ahs around 30 or so. much more infected windows servres
[10:58] <andruk> there are permission escalation
[10:58] <|_ocke> so the worst a userlevel virus could do is run on a computer it was specifically installed on, and possibly upload itself to other servers with open connection
[10:58] <bjwebb_> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:58] <bjwebb_> i can't get my terminals :(
[10:58] <wols_> andruk: but it's a lot harder while in windows it's by default. and UAC from vista is just annoying
[10:58] <|_ocke> this means that it could run on the computer it was installed on, and it could like, print weird stuff, or possibly modify stuff in yoru home folder, but could do nothing toy our system
[10:58] <bjwebb_> if i run chvt i get "couldn't find a file descriptor"
[10:59] <wols_> |_ocke: it could run a spam or DDOS zombie easily
[10:59] <andruk> |_ocke: yes, if permissions work perfectly.  which they do 99.99999% of the time in linux, and inverse that in the windows.
[10:59] <rbs-tito> UAC in Vista is a joke. You have to push about three different buttons to do anything. Even if it does stop things running unwantedly, everything wants to run as root! You need to be an administrator to write a word document!
[10:59] <leagris> |_ocke, there are several rootkits by the way one may cosider a serious treat especially for internet available services, Apache+dodgey PHP applications and other unpatched flow allowing remote code execution.
[10:59] <andruk> wols_: no argument from me there.  why would anybody knowingly buy vista,,,
[11:00] <wols_> andruk: to play DX10 games
[11:00] <|_ocke> and in order for it to do anything to any other system, you would have to contact the owner of the computer it got uploaded to (so you would have to be the owner or at elast be knowledgable about the virus) and convince them to change the permissions on the file bychmod so it could execute, and then execute it with root permission
[11:00] <|_ocke> leagris, yeah but thats more along the lines of exploit than virus
[11:00] <simpleH> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Asus laptop's nvidia drivers
[11:00] <rbs-tito> simpleH: What is the problem?
[11:00] <|_ocke> that wouldn allow it to replicate itself and install itself on any other machines unless they were hopelessly compromised anyways
[11:01] <|_ocke> well the point is
[11:01] <simpleH> umm, as far as I can tell I'm using legacy drivers for a go7600
[11:01] <andruk> wols_: lol, good point.  blast m$ and their kickass video crap.  that and office are the only things holding nerds everywhere back from linux
[11:01] <rbs-tito> simpleH: Is this feisty?
[11:01] <simpleH> yeah
[11:01] <rbs-tito> simpleH: Did you get them ouit of the restricted driver manager?
[11:01] <simpleH> the big problem here is my screen resolution is limited to 1024x768
[11:02] <|_ocke> andruk, linux viruses are impractical, and if someone wrote one taht worked welll right now, it would probably infect about 10 machines and then it would be rendered useless by an update
[11:02] <|_ocke> and the initial release would have taken the creator probvably weeks or months to develop
[11:02] <rbs-tito> simpleH: Install the nvidia control center (I can't remember the package name) and run it as root. You can change the resolution from there
[11:02] <simpleH> originally, I did, but then I followed a guide on how to install the latest desktop version for my card series, and it seems nothing changed
[11:02] <|_ocke> and would be thwarted in a matter of hours or a day or 2
[11:02] <andruk> |_ocke: exploit/virus/rootkit/spyware - all of them are bad.
[11:02] <simpleH> oh, how do I enter it? I should have it installed
[11:02] <andruk> |_ocke: very truw
[11:02] <leagris> |_ocke, once rooted, a Linux box can do whatever nastyness, including scanning for exploitable hosts, rooting other hosts and stealing sniffing local data/passwords ... There are few differences with viruses.
[11:02] <andruk> *true
[11:03] <wols_> !fixres | simpleH
[11:03] <ubotu> simpleH: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:03] <wols_> simpleH: why legacy drivers? your go7600 works with the new drivers just fine
[11:03] <rbs-tito> simpleH: "sudo nvidia-settings"
[11:03] <|_ocke> and linux only gets more robust and less susceptible, all the while keeping its model of admins and users separate, and even running process from the same user separate
[11:04] <tulga> where is good guide to install VPN server?
[11:04] <|_ocke> so a 'virus' couldnt even change the behavior of another program running as the same user
[11:04] <andruk> |_ocke: in theory, yes.
[11:05] <andruk> lol, hey, i heard that hotmail runs on a linux server...is that true?
[11:05] <`4aFkA`> how can i install sql, apache and php for joomla using the apt-get command???
[11:05] <|_ocke> so eyah
[11:06] <|_ocke> nobody in their right mind will write a linux virus seriously unless its for research
[11:06] <leagris> |_ocke, I got a init rootkit once inserted by a young Romanian guy. Hopefully I retraced him via his IRC bouncer he installed and found all the chattrs invisible undeletable files he installed on my host. This takes quite some clue and knowledge to the Linux environment to 1) detect it 2)clean/reinstall/patch the host.
[11:06] <|_ocke> and anyone who isnt in their right mind will probably write something entirely ineffective
[11:06] <tulga> LAMP!
[11:06] <tulga> !LAMP
[11:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:07] <tulga> `4aFkA`: check !LAMP
[11:07] <`4aFkA`> thnx
[11:07] <mantra2> why does my azureus keep closing on me!
[11:07] <andruk> leagris: where was this?
[11:07] <mantra2> Everytime i open it, it closes right away.
[11:07] <simpleH> ok, I restarted X and rebooted
[11:08] <ziroday> mantra2: try running it in terminal and see whats wrong
[11:08] <simpleH> and I'm looking at the FixVideoREsolutionHowto site
[11:08] <rbs-tito> simpleH: Run "sudo nvidia-settings"
[11:08] <andruk> leagris: where was the rootkit problem?
[11:08] <cad> I was hoping to run apache in a my ubuntu desktop environment. Is that possible?
[11:09] <andruk> cad: yep
[11:09] <andruk> !LAMP
[11:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:09] <yondie> cad: definitely in any linux distro
[11:09] <rbs-tito> simpleH: There will be a screen, or display section, sometimes you can change the resolution manually from there
[11:09] <mantra2> # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
[11:09] <mantra2> #
[11:09] <mantra2> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb053a172, pid=6160, tid=3085027008
[11:09] <mantra2> ?
[11:09] <mantra2> Whats that mean
[11:09] <simpleH> awesome, native resolution now
[11:10] <ziroday> !intel
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <ziroday> !xorg
[11:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:10] <simpleH> rbs-tito: thanks
[11:10] <cad> Lamp doesn't seem to be it's own package. And I am having a hard time using synaptic to install apache on its own
[11:10] <|_ocke> well if you root a box thats totally different from a virus
[11:10] <|_ocke> or any kind of malware
[11:10] <|_ocke> of course if i was root i could install a keylogger] 
[11:10] <wols_> !lamp | cad
[11:10] <ubotu> cad: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:10] <RAOF> cad: You *should* be able to just install the "apache2" package, if I remember correctly.
[11:10] <leagris> andruk, I hosted a Mandriva linux box at home with Apache... The guy compromized the SSH access before the patch for the famous security threat it has. It installed an init rooted replacment and an irc bouncer. He used this to join ircnet #somehackerchannel. I went there, talking to his nickname about what he did. Polite and quite teaching dialog went there. Nice guy and me as a newbe admin at this time :)
[11:10] <yondie> cad: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[11:10] <wols_> |_ocke: no
[11:11] <yondie> u can use this package
[11:11] <yondie> but i hate it and it so lame
[11:11] <|_ocke> i could prolly do it with standard unix cmds
[11:11] <andruk> cad: i believe RAOF is correct
[11:11] <alviso> How to use Grub boot Ubuntu system? and I alredy install a Ubuntu
[11:11] <cad> Not through synaptic, then.: through Apache's website.
[11:11] <mantra2> i dont know what to do
[11:11] <mantra2> With my Torrents lol
[11:11] <simpleH> rbs-tito: I have another question....when I bought this laptop, I had to find out the hard way that nvidia didn't directly support my card, and it's supported through Asus, which is somewhat notorious for their poor support....I have done this in the past, installing desktop drivers for this laptop card, and it's always run fine, the question is....is there any real problem with doing this?
[11:12] <wols_> alviso: lgrub comes up on reboot. you use cursor keys to select what you want to boot and press enter
[11:12] <andruk> cad: what do you want to script in?  html?  php with a mysql backend?
[11:13] <yondie> i prefer ruby with mysql
[11:13] <cad> Andruk: I don't know what you mean. I'm new to the whole server thing. I was hoping to use MySQL for the database, but I don't know how to write PHP. Would Python work?
[11:13] <rizayagual> ola
[11:14] <RAOF> cad: Yes.  Python rocks, and can be used with all sorts of server applications.
[11:14] <rizayagual> ola alguien kiere ablar kon migo ?
[11:14] <andruk> cad: i would think so, but im a php person myself.  i would install the apache2 package in synaptic
[11:14] <alviso> wols_ , I lost my MBR infomation, so I at windows now.
[11:14] <wols_> !grub | alviso
[11:14] <yondie> alviso, reinstall grub?
[11:14] <ubotu> alviso: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:15] <cad> I've got apache - what does apache2 add?
[11:15] <wols_> cad: it will work yes. python can do it too
[11:15] <cad> Ok. I like python.
[11:15] <wols_> cad: different apache version, use apache2
[11:15] <cad> Ok
[11:16] <andruk> RAOF: do you have to install any other packages besides "python" and "apache2" to script websites?
[11:17] <cad> There doesn't seem to be an Apache2 package. Just modules, like libapache2*
[11:18] <RAOF> cad: Depends on what you want to do with it.  You may want apache2-mod-python, for example.
[11:18] <RAOF> !find apache > cad
[11:18] <andruk> cad: what does it say in the latest version column for apache?
[11:20] <andruk> cad: try installing libapache2-mod-python
[11:21] <alviso> I at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de see "Boot your computer with the Ubuntu CD" ... I haven't CD or DVD driver ! O My ... could you tell another way ?
[11:22] <mat1980> alviso: you need a linux cd to boot with
[11:22] <wols_> !finfond apche2
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finfond apche2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <wols_> !finf apche2
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finf apche2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <wols_> !info apache2
[11:22] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:22] <mat1980> alviso: the distro doesn't matter
[11:22] <wols_> cad: see. there is
[11:23] <wols_> alviso: you need a Linux Live CD
[11:23] <alviso> I install from HD
[11:23] <wols_> alviso: how did you install ubuntu?
[11:23] <alviso> Hard disk
[11:23] <wols_> how?
[11:24] <alviso> i edit boot.ini and copy grub to my c:\ and edit MENU.LST file, so install Ubuntu
[11:25] <enry>  libera
[11:25] <enry> ciao a tutti
[11:25] <bionoid> Hi. Um, for some reason my system has started ignoring my preference on which application to open video files with.. I go to properties - open with on an AVI, it is set to VLC media player, and when I double click it opens it Totem. Any pointers?
[11:25] <andruk> -_-
[11:25] <|_ocke> pretty much any exploit in linux involves getting root access yourself and then performing some malicious commands or installing some malicious apps
[11:26] <dv_> bionoid, sudo apt-get install galternatives
[11:26] <dv_> then  sudo galternatives
[11:26] <alviso> but and now I lost MBR info,How to edit MENU.LST to boot my Ubuntu?
[11:26] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> helloes
[11:26] <|_ocke> its not really something that can be automatically done unless you are targetting a specific group of machines all with a common weakness
[11:26] <wols_> alviso: you can do the same to boot it
[11:26] <dv_> ah wait video isnt in the alternatives list
[11:26] <PIPBoy_> bye everyone, im out thanks for the help locke!
[11:27] <dv_> bionoid, "Preferred Applications" doesnt work?
[11:27] <NeXtDaY> is there any way I can log whatever commands I write in terminal? to re-check what I did. any help, please
[11:27] <bionoid> dv_: Indeed can't find video in there, nice app though thanks :P
[11:27] <bionoid> dv_: No. It did up until yesterday
[11:27] <dv_> hm
[11:27] <alviso> wols_ , really ?
[11:27] <dv_> also does not include video default
[11:27] <sjmigie> fs
[11:27] <andruk> |_ocke: true, and while it is highly unlikely, a brilliant mind could do it to linux.
[11:27] <hades00> hi :D
[11:28] <alviso> title Install-Ubuntu 771
[11:28] <alviso> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=32768 devfs=mount,dall vga=771
[11:28] <alviso> initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.gz
[11:28] <alviso> boot
[11:28] <alviso> this and boot ?
[11:28] <wols_> yes. all you need is to boot a linux kernel somehow and give it the ubunut root partition as a kernel parameter root=/dev/....
[11:28] <hades00> has anyone tried the new 7.10 ?!
[11:28] <n1xze> I did a bad thing... How can I get my fonts back to normal? I had made them look all windows-y which is great on my desktop but looks like total crap on my laptop....now I don't remember how to fix it.
[11:28] <Costel> in ubuntu apache2 server as what user is running?
[11:28] <wols_> devfs? why devfs?
[11:28] <Costel> or how do i find out?
[11:28] <wols_> alviso: no
[11:28] <andruk> |_ocke: dont get me wrong, i think that linux is really, really secure.  i do think it is possible...just really really hard
[11:28] <eljak> Costel, www-data
[11:28] <wols_> alviso: I told you how
[11:28] <|_ocke> andruk, yes, but even when they did, theyd be writing a fix for it simultaneously
[11:29] <Shaftino> hades00, I think most people here probably run it, why whats up pal?
[11:29] <andruk> |_ocke: not necessarily
[11:29] <cad> Thanks guys. I got it.
[11:29] <alviso> thanks wols_
[11:29] <Teonnyn> Hey!
[11:29] <andruk> cad: np, good luck!
[11:29] <eljak> Costel, you find it in apache2.conf
[11:29] <Shaftino> Hey Teonnyn
[11:29] <Teonnyn> I just got Ubuntu 7.04 fully installed and updated here
[11:30] <cotyrothery> were do I find my xorg.conf files
[11:30] <Shaftino> cotyrothery, /etcc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <Teonnyn> Wanted to say thank you for all the help :)
[11:30] <cotyrothery> wow that was fast thanks
[11:30] <Shaftino> cotyrothery, /etc/X11/xorg.conf***
[11:30] <|_ocke> the advanced user of linux who could pull off such a feat is also a fan of lkinux who would most likel;y not be doing it for destruction, but for improvement of the OS, and even if not, somebody equally talented (or 1000 people just as talented) be developing a solution so that method could never be used again
[11:30] <sjmigie> i'm following this tut : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC but i just cant get my windos client into teh domain
[11:30] <wigfreitz> how do I disable IPv6 for my wireless?
[11:30] <Shaftino> cotyrothery, I put it wrong at first
[11:30] <|_ocke> and when they found it (inm a matter of hours or days) it would be included in the kernel, or in an update for everybody
[11:31] <cotyrothery> Shaftino: im trying to make wow run with more fps
[11:31] <Shaftino> cotyrothery, Cant help you there
[11:31] <|_ocke> and would be rendered ineffective in less time than it tok to write the exploit
[11:31] <robdeman> folks
[11:31] <robdeman> folks
[11:31] <alviso> wols_ , How can I do is right ?
[11:31] <sjmigie> i'm following this tut : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC but i just cant get my windos client into teh domain
[11:31] <NeXtDaY> !ping
[11:31] <ubotu> pong
[11:31] <|_ocke> so the yreally wouldnt gain any thign but knmowledge
[11:32] <|_ocke> which is valuable
[11:32] <robdeman> folks do you guys use Kivio?
[11:32] <wols_> alviso: I told you: 11:28 < wols_> yes. all you need is to boot a linux kernel somehow and give it the ubunut root partition as a kernel parameter root=/dev/....
[11:32] <|_ocke> bu t their reputation as a developer would be shot if t hey released a 'virus' and not a fix and they'd be basically exiled from the linux community
[11:33] <andruk> |_ocke: do not fall into the trap of thinking that everybody who uses linux loves it (although i do).  there will be somebody who will develop a virus without the antibiotic (bad analogy)...
[11:33] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> how can I move and delete files when I boot from cd? or, said in another way.. who do I disable restricted mode when I boot from cd?
[11:33] <alviso> title Ubuntu
[11:33] <alviso> root (hd0,a)
[11:33] <alviso> kernel /boot/loader
[11:33] <alviso> this right ?
[11:34] <andruk> |_ocke: people might not know who wrote it.  they might not be part or want to be part of the linux community.
[11:34] <andruk> robdeman: no, i do not use kivio
[11:34] <|_ocke> andruk, i really dont think theres anyone who knows enough about linux to develop something with that capability that doesnt use it as th eir primary OS and doesnt really want it to baert  windows
[11:35] <bionoid> Does anyone know how the system decides which program to use for opening a specific file? I tried changing in /etc/gnome/defaults.list but to no avail. Have grepped around but can't find any other likely configuration files..
[11:35] <andruk> |_ocke: i would agree, but im not going to count on that.  thats exactly what m$ did
[11:35] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> is there any way to disable restricted mode when running ubuntu off live cd?
[11:36] <|_ocke> but even if there is, the code ca using the p roblems would be easily isolated by the thousands of other developers and easily neutralized, therefore rendere\ing all futuer attempts by the same principle useless
[11:36] <|_ocke> andruk, no the didnt
[11:36] <andruk> bionoid: should be as simple as Preferences > Preferred Applications
[11:37] <andruk> |_ocke: i think they did... hence few IE6 updates until late
[11:37] <bionoid> andruk: Yeah, I can change it there, but it doesn't have any effect. It's set to VLC, but opens in Totem. If I change to totem and back again, no effect either..
[11:37] <bionoid> andruk: Ah, there is no video in "preferred application", I do it in properties - open with
[11:37] <windflying> Hello
[11:38] <root__> hi, I have just install ubuntu server, why apt-get complains about dependencies when I run apt-get install sun-java5-bin?
[11:38] <windflying> somebody?
[11:38] <andruk> bionoid: gotcha.  thats beyond me then (im still a noob).
[11:39] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> hmm...
[11:40] <andruk> well, im off tobed, gnight everybody!
[11:40] <tonsofpcs> nit
[11:40] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> is there any way to disable restricted mode when running ubuntu off live cd?
[11:41] <|_ocke> andruk, ms doesnt let anybody see their source code, so the virus developers have just as muh as advantage as anyone else
[11:41] <wols_> |_ocke: untrue
[11:42] <tonsofpcs> ms lets anyone with bittorrent see their source code
[11:42] <tonsofpcs> [well, they don't "let", but ....] 
[11:42] <wols_> root__: full output please
[11:42] <wols_> root__: and don't irc as root!
[11:42] <metbsd> what's good apps in kde that i can install
[11:43] <a7p> hi everyone ...
[11:43] <Grey_Wolf|RefleX> seems like there's noone that can help me here, then..
[11:43] <root__> hi, I have just install ubuntu server, why apt-get complains about dependencies when I run apt-get install sun-java5-bin?
[11:44] <zax1> is there anything like 'device manager' on ubuntu ?
[11:44] <zax1> i need to check the drivers on a device but cant find anything like 'device manager'
[11:44] <Sendai> irc.fansub-irc.org
[11:44] <tonsofpcs> lspci
[11:44] <a7p> I just got a new external drive ... this drive is offered as "root"'s property ... and I do not know how to change that.
[11:44] <tonsofpcs> chown the mountpoint
[11:45] <zax1> tonsofpcs: laspci ? is that an answer to me or someone else?
[11:45] <tonsofpcs> yes
[11:45] <tonsofpcs> you
[11:45] <a7p> tonsofpcs, there's no regular mountpoint ...
[11:45] <ALL4N> zax1: there is a gui one, without running ubuntu here I think it is under administrative tools
[11:45] <a7p> It get's mountet as "/media/disk" and I changed it allready, but it did not help.
[11:46] <pwngasm> if i have a game installed with wine, and i want it to detect lan games over hamachi, do i install the native linux version of hamachi or emulate the windows version?
[11:46] <ALL4N> zax1: or whatever it is, that menu where help is, there is one there called hardware or something like that
[11:46] <wols_> a7p: what filesystem?
[11:46] <a7p> wols_, xfs (of course *g*)
[11:46] <zax1> ALL4N: the only thing that seems related to drivers is restricted drivers manager
[11:46] <wols_> zax1: what kind of device? pci,  usb, etc?
[11:46] <a7p> usb
[11:46] <zax1> its a pci serial card
[11:46] <ALL4N> zax1: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/docteam/quickguide/ch05.html#qg-device-manager
[11:46] <a7p> ups ..
[11:47] <wols_> a7p: then you don't need to do anything. just match up user IDs
[11:47] <zax1> ALL4N: thanks checking it noe
[11:47] <zax1> now
[11:47] <tonsofpcs> lspci > *
[11:47] <a7p> wols_, i freshly formated the disk using gparted ... the uid should be fitting ...
[11:48] <wols_> a7p: change the mountpoint's perms then
[11:48] <wigfreitz> Ive lost my password for http://ubuntuforums.org any ideas on how to get a new one, its not so clear on th site
[11:48] <pwngasm> if i have a game installed with wine, and i want it to detect lan games over hamachi, do i install the native linux version of hamachi or emulate the windows version?
[11:48] <zax1> ALL4N: that documentation doesnt match mine.... under administration i dont have device manager or hardware...its ubuntu 7.04
[11:48] <wols_> !ubuntuformus
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuformus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <wols_> !ubuntuforums
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <ALL4N> zax1: running gnome_
[11:49] <ALL4N> ?
[11:49] <gmoreno> hello all, need help w/my on board graphics card (nvidia)
[11:49] <zax1> i think
[11:49] <zax1> i am not expert
[11:49] <bohdan> hello. Does anybody has a problem with shuting down PC in Ubuntu?
[11:49] <zax1> its the default installation of ubuntu 7.04
[11:49] <tonsofpcs> bohdan: yes.  I don't want to :D
[11:49] <wols_> gmoreno: why card exactly?
[11:49] <pqs> no problem
[11:49] <wols_> !nvidia | gmoreno
[11:49] <ubotu> gmoreno: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:50] <mat1980> zax1: you'll find Divice Manager in the control panel, under the hardware section
[11:50] <a7p> wols_,  I already did that - and it did and from the terminal I can do all the stuff - but gnome does not offer me options as renaming and creating folders.
[11:50] <lukea> Just got a bunch of updates to evolution & its libraries, why is it that one security update affects so many packages?
[11:50] <lukea> I thought the whole point of shared libraries was so that only one library would have to be updated....
[11:50] <mat1980> bohdan: no, what's your?
[11:50] <zax1> mat1980: sorry to be so ignorant... but , where do i find the control panel?
[11:51] <a7p> grr ... I guess I will reboot
[11:51] <ALL4N> zax1: its not kubuntu or xubuntu right?
[11:51] <[ThC] Primski> gdi, my irc client keeps spamming, checking logs now, see tons of stuff i didnt write. using xchat, anyone knows whats that all about ?
[11:51] <bohdan> shuting down doesn't turn of  computer
[11:51] <zax1> ALL4N: no, its Ubuntu 7.04
[11:51] <mat1980> zax1: system->pref->control panel
[11:51] <bohdan> i must push restart button and then turn it oof
[11:51] <Ind[y] > Why isn't Java Runtime Environment installed by Firefox?
[11:52] <Ind[y] > * can't be installed
[11:52] <wols_> Ind[y] : cause it's a restriceted package
[11:52] <thedonvaughn> zax1, i think mat1980 is pulling your chain
[11:52] <zax1> mat1980: under system>prefs> i dont have control panel
[11:52] <wols_> zax1: what hw do you want to check and what for?
[11:52] <Ind[y] > wols_: if I have enabled multiverse, restricted, etc, why can't it be installed?
[11:53] <zax1> i installed ubuntu, yesterday, i just added a pci card that has a serial port on, and i want to see if it is installed correctly
[11:53] <wols_>  scause it can't be a dependency since it's multieverse
[11:53] <wols_> !java | Ind[y] 
[11:53] <ubotu> Ind[y] : To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:53] <zax1> and to see if its working, and to adjust its port speed, parity, etc
[11:53] <thedonvaughn> zax1, if you type lspci in a terminal, do you see the card listed?
[11:53] <zax1> got it....mat1980 was right...its system > prefs > hardware information.
[11:54] <zax1> thedonvaughn: i dont know
[11:54] <zax1> never done it
[11:54] <zax1> let me try
[11:54] <thedonvaughn> zax1, also do u have an application that will use this device?  Have you tried running this application? :)
[11:55] <Kprofthreat> !welcome | poweruser1
[11:55] <ubotu> poweruser1: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:55] <zax1> no not yet
[11:55] <mat1980> zax1: well, maybe it's disabled. Start system->preferences->main menu. Select System->Preferences on the left panel. In the right one there should be list many entry, one with control panel probably not checked. However you're have already resolved.
[11:56] <gmoreno> wols_: geforce4 MX on board graphics
[11:56] <wols_> nvidia legacy then
[11:56] <tonio__> hi here
[11:56] <tonio__> i have some trouble with my gdm config....
[11:56] <zax1> mat1980: thanks
[11:57] <tonio__> when gdm is launched i have a blank screen with a buzy mouse pointer....
[11:57] <zax1> how do i enable the terminal windwo, or how do i run it
[11:57] <mat1980> zax1: you're wellcome!
[11:57] <thedonvaughn> mat1980, ah my apologizes.  Didn't realize that
[11:57] <tonio__> how can i reset my gdm setting ?
[11:57] <thedonvaughn> zax1, Applications - > Accessories -> Terminal
[11:57] <wols_> zax1: run gnome terminal or press ctrl+alt+f2 (to get back to X: ctrl+alt+f7)
[11:57] <mat1980> thedonvaughn: no problem.
[11:58] <zax1> thanks all
[11:58] <tonio__> any idea ??
[11:59] <zax1> my serial (com port) card is listed as an unknown device, does linux community has its own drivers database, or is it back to the manufacturer
[11:59] <zax1> and is done if they dont have a linux driver for it?
[11:59] <tonsofpcs> zax1: lspci
[11:59] <thedonvaughn> zax1, what card is it?  maker and model?
[11:59] <tonsofpcs> find which device it is
[11:59] <tonsofpcs> lspci -n and give us the corrosponding number
[12:00] <zax1> tonsofpcs: ran lspci, thats how i know its coming up asd an unknown
[12:00] <tonsofpcs> [like ####:####] 
[12:00] <tonio__> any idea for my trouble ??
[12:00] <zax1> 9310-9835
[12:00] <poweruser1> !welcome | my_fat_ass
[12:00] <ubotu> my_fat_ass: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[12:00] <zax1> ****   9310-9835 (rev 01)     *****
[12:00] <tonsofpcs> zax1: that doesn't seem right
[12:01] <wols_> zax1: sudo update-pciids
[12:01] <tonsofpcs> try lspci -n | grep [the numbers at the left side, in "s] 
[12:01] <thedonvaughn> tonio__, might try booting up and switching to a virtual console by hitting ctrl+alt+F1 and logging in.  Then sudo Xorg -configure to create another configuration.  You can copy that configuration to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then restart gdm with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"  that could fix it.  Back up your old /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one.
[12:01] <wols_> zax1: and then run lspci -vv and paste the output in a pastebin
[12:01] <tonio__> ok thkx thedonvaughn
[12:01] <zax1> i cant it doesnt have an ethernet port, so its off the network, i will type it here
[12:05] <zax1> Communication controller: Unknown device 9310:9835 (rev 01)
[12:05] <zax1> i cant type '|' on that keyboard so cant do the grep thingy
[12:08] <a7p> mpf, rebooting solved my problems ...
[12:08] <a7p> I hate it
[12:09] <iTurtle> !wine
[12:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:10] <iTurtle> Hi. I installed Wine and saved a picture file from Firefox for Windows on my desktop. But the file doesn't exist.... how do I remove it?
[12:10] <iTurtle> Not Wine. The picture
[12:10] <sabgenton> is there a back forward with the mouse in konqueror?/
[12:10] <iTurtle> !kubuntu | sabgenton
[12:10] <ubotu> sabgenton: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:11] <sabgenton> there is in fire fox i thing
[12:11] <sabgenton> think
[12:11] <iTurtle> sabgenton: I think if you right click and select back or forward it should work....
[12:11] <sabgenton> haha
[12:11] <iTurtle> oh, and Firefox is one word ;)
[12:12] <sabgenton> firefox has button suport doesn't it?
[12:12] <sabgenton> for back and forward
[12:14] <mrynit> when i run a live cd does it tuch the harddrive? i have a damaged hardrive and i need to boot the computer
[12:14] <mat1980> mrynit: no, it doesn't
[12:14] <Gnea> mrynit: not until you tell it to
[12:14] <QwertyM> mrynit, no it doesnt affect your Harddrive at all
[12:15] <mrynit> unless i mount /mnt/sda
[12:15] <Gnea> or if you click on the /dev/sda1 icon
[12:15] <battlesquid> hey, how can i downgrade a package? ctrl-arrow_key is broken possibly by vte, and they have for some reason decided to prioritize this very annoying bug "low". so i want to try downgrading
[12:16] <mat1980> mrynit: mounting a device doesn't make anything on that. If you do not change anything you have nothing to worry.
[12:17] <twisted> #ubuntu
[12:19] <|_ocke_> k night
[12:20] <Twisted_64> ahoy
[12:20] <jscinoz> Anyone happen to know how to convert a tar.gz to a deb?
[12:20] <raf256> sending/reciving emails eats up too much of my net connection, how to fix?
[12:21] <stunatra> wtf
[12:21] <wols_> implement a better spamfilter on your server
[12:21] <zsolt> I heard somewhere that you have to compile something first to make a deb from it
[12:21] <raf256> wols_: that will not help
[12:21] <Twisted_64> I'm having trouble with nVidia drivers. Had to rename xorg.conf to get X back after I screwed it up. Is there an easy way to regenerate it?
[12:21] <wols_> if you have your own MTA that is
[12:21] <wols_> raf256: pop3 or your own MTA?
[12:21] <bionoid> raf256: 1) Implement QoS in your router, or 2) rate-limit the SMTP/POP/IMAP packages using iptables locally
[12:22] <Frogzoo> jscinoz: you need to package the app'n, there's a debian guide to making packages if you google
[12:22] <stunatra> fuckinggoogleit.com
[12:22] <raf256> bionoid: how to do it the 2nd way
[12:22] <Frogzoo> raf256: are you letting spammers relay through your MTA??
[12:22] <raf256> stunatra--
[12:22] <raf256> Frogzoo: no
[12:23] <stunatra> it's a real website :P
[12:23] <Twisted_64> hey, that's not a nice website
[12:23] <Frogzoo> raf256: well if your MTA uses that much B/W - I see no solution but get a fatter pipe
[12:23] <Twisted_64> :P
[12:23] <stunatra> lol
[12:23] <bionoid> raf256: iptables switch -m limit -limit and -limit-burst
[12:23] <jscinoz> frogzoo, i was sure theres an automated process to do it, kind of like alien for rpms but for tar.gz
[12:23] <raf256> Frogzoo: I dont need to recive emails fastly. I just want them to not block other connections
[12:24] <Frogzoo> raf256: see bionoid ^^
[12:24] <raf256> bionoid: it will drop packages, not lower their priority
[12:24] <Twisted_64> I now can't really configure anything graphical, I think, because I don't have xorg.conf
[12:24] <wols_> raf256: again: pop3 or your own MTA?
[12:24] <Filthpig> Hi, I've tried following this howto to share an internet connection http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 , but I still don't get the other box on the net (and yes, I've set static ip etc)
[12:24] <raf256> wols_: pop3
[12:24] <wols_> k
[12:24] <Frogzoo> raf256: by dropping packets, the d/l  will slow down
[12:24] <incorrect> does anyone know if its possible to pub public keys into ldap ?
[12:25] <raf256> Frogzoo: I dont think this is a nice solution is it
[12:25] <wols_> Twisted_64: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:25] <Twisted_64> wols_, thx
[12:25] <bionoid> raf256: If you're unhappy with that (it will work, though), then use QoS
[12:26] <raf256> bionoid: any gui tool to set it up?
[12:26] <bionoid> Not that I know of.
[12:26] <sebrock> If I installed nvidia-glx and now remove the physical graphics card, will these drivers load on boot anyway?
[12:26] <Frogzoo> raf256: it's all you're going to get
[12:26] <wols_> sebrock: not. if you still have it configured it will try and fail
[12:28] <bionoid> raf256: Alternatively there is probably some proxy software that can do it for you
[12:28] <raf256> k
[12:29] <cmoreno> ola
[12:32] <sebrock> wols_ ok so how do I unconfigure it to start at boot and just keep the drivers on disk?
[12:33] <wols_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:33] <wols_> and
[12:33] <wols_> !blacklist
[12:33] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[12:34] <martoro> ola
[12:36] <t2> hi,  i just installed KDE on xubuntu fiesty but i cannot see the ACPI power managment tab in the KDE control center... how can i set it up so i can suspend my desktop to ram ??  thanks
[12:37] <liquiddoom> Ubuntu server doesn't like my IDE controller, I get errors like "ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct oxo SErr action 0x2 frozen". Does it seem like a drive or the controller itself?
[12:37] <[PSyKo] > lol
[12:38] <liquiddoom> Now I get "buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 0"
[12:38] <liquiddoom> Sounds like it's a drive problem
[12:38] <mrynit> i need some one who knows japanese to help me fix this computer. no one is in #japanese
[12:39] <liquiddoom> Oh well. A bad drive is no surpise. I DID get half this raid from a dumpster
[12:39] <liquiddoom> Talk about an inexpensive array.
[12:40] <plugs> If I have a system that dual-boots XP and Ubuntu, is there a way for me to run Ubuntu inside of XP? Would it be the same as if it were being run natively?
[12:40] <mrynit> plugs, vmware
[12:40] <zubuntoo> Hi ! anyone had a problems with 7.04 xubuntu isos ?
[12:40] <plugs> I read a bit about vmware. would that be just like if it were native?
[12:41] <zubuntoo>  I downloaded & burned the isos multiple times, but it still wont boot up work ? anyone else had issues ?
[12:41] <zubuntoo> can anyone ready/see my msgs ?
[12:41] <Shaftino> zubuntoo, Yeah
[12:41] <erUSUL> zubuntoo: yes
[12:41] <liquiddoom> I killed power to my ATA drives and it works. No doubt about it, it was a bad drive. Now to find which one it was...
[12:41] <zubuntoo> thanx
[12:42] <erUSUL> zubuntoo: can yo describe "wont boot up work" ??
[12:42] <erUSUL> zubuntoo: it freezes? if so at which point?
[12:42] <wols_> Filthpig: I ask you a thrid and last time: do you have a dhcp-server?
[12:42] <zubuntoo> erUSUL: I mean I sense corrupt ISOS have been uploaded to the server
[12:43] <tommus> I need to remove Tranmission from my ubuntu system, but I've been looking for some time now and I cant find a way to remove it since its not in synaptic nor can I use the sudo make uninstall, so, how do i remove tar.gz-installed items?
[12:43] <zubuntoo> erUSUL: : I get presented the boot menu but as soon as I choose the default boot/install (first option) it freezes up
[12:43] <RAOF> tommus: You can't, in general.  If it doesn't support "sudo make uninstall", you're out of luck
[12:43] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, have you tried burning the iso at a slower speed, thats normally a solution when multiple cd's keep failing, or try burning from a different computer
[12:44] <tommus> RAOF: is it possible to re-install and have it return to initial stage?
[12:44] <wols_> tommus: you rm every single file it installed
[12:44] <tommus> wols_: can i assume all those files are in the one same direcotyr?
[12:45] <Filthpig> wols, according to the howto, no dhcp
[12:45] <wols_> tommus: no
[12:45] <Filthpig> how do I set it up with dhcp?
[12:45] <erUSUL> zubuntoo: maybe your hardware is not well supported...  a laptop? try some boot options like noacpi
[12:45] <erUSUL> !boot | zubuntoo
[12:45] <ubotu> zubuntoo: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:45] <wols_> install dnsmasq (which is always a good idea) and configure /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[12:45] <wols_> the dhcp part needs hand editing. the dns cache part is enabled by default
[12:46] <RAOF> tommus: You can, of course, just reinstall transmission from the tarball.  But unless they support "make uninstall", it's practically impossible to cleanly remove.
[12:46] <jscinoz> Hey guys, im packaging a program, just wondering where should it put the .desktop for the menu?
[12:46] <wols_> tho, the router should always have a static IP too
[12:46] <tommus> RAOF: Nah, no make uninstall support. Ok, thats really the answer I was looking for so thanks.
[12:46] <tommus> in that case, i shall let transmission drop. any recommended torrent-clients? I really had bad luck with torrent clients on ubuntu.
[12:46] <zubuntoo> erUSUL: ubotu : I tried the safe boot as well as console option but no luck . (I have p-iii 500Mhz dell system. I wont call it that old)
[12:47] <Ind[y] > Audacious is the evolution of XMMS?
[12:47] <erUSUL> zubuntoo: :( i'm out of ideas... (btw ubotu is a irc bot ;))
[12:47] <Frogzoo> Ind[y] : in some ways, but it's certainly better
[12:48] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, can you redownload the iso from a different place and try that, it give you an idea whether there's a problem with the one you've downloaded
[12:48] <zubuntoo> erUSUL: : bot. hehe . okay
[12:48] <Ind[y] > Frogzoo: is there a feisty repos for it?
[12:48] <Frogzoo> Ind[y] : yup
[12:48] <wols_> zubuntoo: use the altnerate install cd
[12:48] <Frogzoo> !info feisty
[12:48] <ubotu> Package feisty does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:49] <Frogzoo> !info audacious
[12:49] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: Yeah I did download it from a differenet mirror but without luck.
[12:49] <ubotu> audacious: Small and fast audio player which supports lots of formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-4 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 2356 kB
[12:49] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: Same issues. Im using prozilla. btw I havent md5sum checked it. It usually never do.
[12:49] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, sounds like you've either got a hardware problem, or are getting bad burns if downloads from different mirrors aren't working
[12:50] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, would be worth you doing the md5sum check just to rule something out
[12:51] <metbsd> why there are more ppl in ubuntu than in kubuntu? is it because there are more gnome users?
[12:51] <Ind[y] > Frogzoo: in Universe?
[12:51] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: : tried 2 different CD burners with different speeds. Tried runnig the burned CD on multiple systems as well. but guess what ? no luck
[12:51] <Frogzoo> Ind[y] : I don't know
[12:51] <Ind[y] > Frogzoo: If I have Audacious, do I need MPlayer?
[12:51] <wols_> zubuntoo: have you tried what I suggested?
[12:51] <ziroday> metbsd: probably
[12:52] <Dromarro> Hello. I have installed XGL and Beryl, but at the first time I run beryl-manager, my desktop was delete? wallpapers don't load, i can't clic, etc... http://www.imagehoop.com/view_image/d9ce0628/Capture.jpeg    (and sorry for my english :x)
[12:52] <wols_> metbsd: it's also cause the distro is called ubuntu. kubunut is a special version of ubunutu not the other way around.
[12:52] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, if you're not in a rush, you could order a copy via shipit through the post
[12:52] <Ind[y] > Frogzoo: ?
[12:52] <wols_> and as you, there are many kubunutu users here
[12:52] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: : Any ideas when the next version of Xubuntu is comming. Im gonna wait for that.
[12:52] <Ind[y] > zubuntoo: #xubuntu
[12:52] <Frogzoo> Ind[y] : mplayer plays vid, audactious doesn't
[12:52] <wols_> zubuntoo: october probabl
[12:52] <Ind[y] > oh, ok then.
[12:52] <Ind[y] > thank you
[12:52] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: Naah they (xubuntu) pppl dont ship Xubuntu. they only do ubuntu
[12:53] <incorrect> i've configured ldap to auth users, however when i ps axu, i just get the uid for the users processes, is there anyway to get the user name?
[12:54] <zubuntoo> btw I hear Xubuntu alpha version is also out. ? anyone tried it ? is it stable enough for home use
[12:54] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, didn't know that, can't think of anything else to suggest
[12:54] <Shaftino> zubuntoo, Did you try what wols_ suggested?
[12:55] <Dromarro> So? Anyone can help me? xD
[12:55] <CheshireViking> zubuntoo, unless you get hold of an ubuntu cd, install that and then download & install xfce and select that as you default desktop
[12:56] <Ind[y] > Is there a stable system tray minimizing plugin for Audacious?
[12:57] <zubuntoo> wols_: yeah gonna do that.
[12:57] <zubuntoo> CheshireViking: : am also thinking of using  using xbuntu 6.0 LTS.
[12:58] <[ThC] Primski> hello, got a question about trac: i changed the repo path, now it yawns it cant find revision #. Probably stored in cache or smth, maybe something i missed? or just need to clear cache? but how do i do that?
[01:01] <Sergo> hello
[01:01] <Sergo> how can i  add russian language ?
[01:01] <Sergo> as a text output
[01:04] <ferronica> hi
[01:04] <Sergo> i don't understand how to do this in ubuntu 7.04
[01:05] <jscinoz> chmod 655 is read readexec readexec right?
[01:05] <Sergo> how to switch languages in ubuntu 7.04??
[01:06] <kane77> jscinoz, readwrite readexec readexec
[01:06] <jscinoz> so for an app launcher in /usr/bin i s hould use 655 right?
[01:07] <kane77> Sergo, what text output?
[01:07] <Sergo> kane77 i want to type text in russina language olso
[01:07] <Sergo> how to do this
[01:07] <Sergo> also*
[01:07] <erUSUL> Sergo: System>Admin>Language Support
[01:07] <erUSUL> !ru
[01:07] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:08] <kane77> jscinoz, 755 afaik
[01:08] <Sergo> erUSUL: i have installed already russian language
[01:08] <Sergo> but how to type text in russian
[01:08] <kane77> Sergo, then System -> Preferences -> Keyboard...
[01:09] <maynards-girl> how do I add a new group? (like when I do chown. I need to add a group)
[01:09] <Sergo> kane77: i have added the russian language already in there
[01:09] <Sergo> but don't now how to switch to it
[01:09] <kane77> Sergo, oh.. then add keyboard applet to see what language you have
[01:09] <Sergo> alt+shift doesn't work
[01:09] <Sergo> kane77: how to add applet? ...
[01:10] <BlendArt> hello
[01:10] <BlendArt> how do I run a .bin file?
[01:10] <erUSUL> !bin
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <kane77> Sergo, right click on pannel (top or bottom) and select add to panel...
[01:11] <Sergo> ah ok thanks
[01:11] <erUSUL> BlendArt: chmod + x *.bin ; ./*.bin
[01:11] <kane77> BlendArt, if you have propper permissions you run ./filename.bin (you should be in that directory if not use absolute path /folder/etc/file.bin)
[01:12] <Sergo> thanks
[01:12] <alesan> hi how is cinerella doing? is it working well on ubuntu?
[01:13] <BlendArt> System_Init() PNG header and library versions do not match?
 You mean cinelerra or something lie that?
 The last time I tried it, it wasn't fully functional.. but that was quite some time ago.
[01:15] <kane77> alesan, I tried it quite some time back, but didn't manage to run it... but you can give it try...
[01:15] <alesan> thanks
[01:16] <santaklauss> How to make ctrl+alt+del work like in windows?
[01:17] <DestroyX> hi
[01:18] <santaklauss> thanx
[01:22] <simpleH> Hi, I have a script I want to run at startup, how do I do this in gnome?
[01:22] <crdlb> !autostart | simpleH
[01:22] <ubotu> simpleH: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:23] <larson9999> how do i get gtk-recordmydesktop to record audio via my usb camera?  it works fine in ekiga
[01:23] <lk> irc.freenode.net
[01:34] <arthur> hi there, it looks like it was quite some time ago I compiled a kernel and the linux-tree package is gone
[01:34] <arthur> What is the substitute to linux-tree package, if any?
[01:35] <erUSUL> !info linux-sources
[01:35] <ubotu> Package linux-sources does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:35] <arthur> thank you
[01:35] <larson9999> arthur: these days what's the reason to compile a kernel?
[01:36] <arthur> larson9999, I would like 2.6.22 on my feisty install
[01:36] <arthur> Can't see any other means
[01:36] <haf> optimize the kernel for mobile use, for example
[01:36] <erUSUL> !kernel > arthur
[01:37] <simpleH> How do I autostart a script at startup?
[01:37] <arthur> !kernel
[01:37] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:37] <larson9999> haf: i suppose that's a reason.  but i think i agree with ubotu :)
[01:37] <arthur> erUSUL, thank you :)
[01:38] <arthur> larson9999, ;)
[01:38] <haf> I just came back and didn't read all the chat log :) but I agree, in most cases, the default kernel is sufficient
[01:39] <simpleH> Hi, how do I autorun a script at startup?
[01:39] <larson9999> reminds me of a favorite joke: i used to run gentoo but there was too much compiling so i switched to lfs.
[01:39] <arthur> haf, quote: in most cases, not all :)
[01:39] <arthur> larson9999, compiling the compiler?...
[01:44] <toddy> My xchat doesn't display all the words?what can i do?
[01:45] <toed> hi, is it possible to get more than just the 8 phone number fields for evolution contacts?
[01:45] <Ind[y] > In a sample C program, it says that it can't find stdio.h
[01:45] <Ind[y] > What's going on?
[01:46] <Ind[y] > Should I install something?
[01:46] <cafuego> well, that's not good. install libc6-dev
[01:46] <cafuego> better yet, 'build-essential'
[01:46] <Ind[y] > ok
[01:46] <cafuego> grab manpages-dev too
[01:46] <Ind[y] > thanks
[01:46] <toddy> apt-get install builder-essential
[01:47] <toddy> for the stdio.h
[01:47] <cafuego> no, and he's gone
[01:47] <Pici> toddy: no r
[01:48] <toddy> that's ok!ive tried
[01:49] <root__> guys, why apt-get still complains when I run apt-get install sun-java5-bin  even I have enabled muiltiverse repo?
[01:50] <Pici> root__: have you done an apt-get update since you added the repo?
[01:50] <root__> yes
[01:50] <noiesmo> whats the complaint pasteit in pastebin
[01:50] <root__> I added the gpg keys as well
[01:50] <rick_> hi, i've just upgraded from 6.0.6 to feisty. Previously, i was running a 686 kernel, how do i install the 686 kernel in feisty rather than 386? Thanks a lot
[01:51] <toddy> where are you from?
[01:51] <toddy> Pici?
[01:51] <root__> it complains about dependencies in sun-java5-jre, unixodbc, libstdc
[01:51] <Pici> toddy: US, NJ.
[01:52] <toddy> 
[01:52] <metbsd> 
[01:52] <toddy> 
[01:52] <metbsd> 
[01:52] <mezziah> wtf am i in the chinese channel?
[01:52] <mezziah> *checks*
[01:52] <metbsd> 
[01:52] <Pici> !english
[01:52] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:53] <A_I_> does someone know how to configure the period key on numpad behavior
[01:53] <noiesmo> root__, thats odd you running feisty
[01:53] <toddy> 
[01:53] <A_I_> when numlock is on, numpad period doesn't work
[01:53] <root__> yes
[01:54] <toddy> metbsd?
[01:54] <metbsd> 
[01:54] <toddy> 
[01:54] <Ind[y] > So, any ways of automatical unlocking of the Default Keyring?
[01:54] <Pici> !english | toddy metbsd
[01:54] <ubotu> toddy metbsd: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:55] <maynards-girl> how can i tell what kernel i'm running?
[01:55] <metbsd> 
[01:55] <toddy> Got it!
[01:55] <A_I_> even when numlock is off period doesn't do anything, only whith SHIFT+num_period writes a period
[01:55] <toddy> ru xiang sui su ba!
[01:55] <noiesmo> "run uname -a" in terminal maYer`off
[01:55] <metbsd> i can speak a little englsih too
[01:56] <noiesmo> "run uname -a" in terminal maynards-girl
[01:56] <metbsd> these fcking foreigners, hahaha
[01:56] <toddy> so do i
[01:56] <melchior7> I have this theory that the chinese actually communicate telepathically; the written language is just to throw off foreigners
[01:56] <toddy> that's Okey!
[01:56] <root__> can someone help? please!
[01:56] <maynards-girl> nsiesmo, thanks
[01:56] <metbsd> not many chinese here
[01:57] <cafuego> !cn
[01:57] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:57] <mezziah> isn't there a chinese channel?
[01:57] <mezziah> oh, nvm
[01:57] <root__> !fr
[01:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:57] <mrynit> how do i turn on file sharing for two ubuntu comupters in the same network
[01:58] <kane77> !nfs | mrynit
[01:58] <ubotu> mrynit: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:58] <keneida> any xubuntu users here? Can somebody tell me how many MB of ram xubuntu eats directly after logging
[01:58] <_Titatovenaar_> is there an sollution for the avahi .local problem
[01:58] <mrynit> kane77, ones running from liveCD
[02:00] <toddy> there are ones install ubuntu on-line
[02:01] <wizo> hey is there a sql server where i can use to create a database? i typed in sql in apt-cache search and it gave me quite a few pages of results.. can anyone gimme a tip on refining my search?
[02:02] <kanzie> I have two monitors connected with one extending the primary displays desktop area, but they are placed on the wrong side of each other and I cant seem to get it right. I have tried to apply "reversed" in my xorg but that just crashes my X. anyone that can take a look at my xorg and tell me what to add? It is pasted at: http://pastebin.ca/583501
[02:03] <GeekMaster1> Hi all. Does ANYONE here have ANY experience with VirtualBox. I belive my issue needs to be resolved VIA PM and no tin this room. It's VERY complicated. If someone could PLEASE help me...
[02:03] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[02:03] <cotyrothery> I do
[02:04] <cotyrothery> I just started using it yesterday but I already know a good bit
[02:04] <cotyrothery> XD
[02:04] <GeekMaster1> cotyrothery: we have to talk in PM. This will be complicated... Please
[02:04] <cotyrothery> ok
[02:04] <cotyrothery> do you have im
[02:05] <GeekMaster1> Yes I have IM
[02:05] <cotyrothery> which one
[02:05] <GeekMaster1> AIM: dannymichel0101
[02:05] <cotyrothery> ok one sec
[02:05] <GeekMaster1> Yahoo!: danielmichel0101
[02:06] <GeekMaster1> MSN: danielmichel0101@hotmail.com
[02:06] <GeekMaster1> GMail: xcingix@gmail.com
[02:06] <GeekMaster1> Im sorry. AIM:danielmichel0101
[02:06] <cotyrothery> oh ok
[02:06] <metbsd> toddy, 
[02:06] <give> hi! one of our ubuntu-servers sometimes dont answer samba and apache requests. after you ping the machine, it immediately answers the hanging apache or samba request. any ideas?
[02:06] <cotyrothery> let me change it
[02:07] <toddy> just returned!
[02:07] <mezziah> metbsd: please, this channel is english only.
[02:07] <cotyrothery> GeekMaster1: go on aim
[02:07] <metbsd> that was english
[02:07] <GeekMaster1> cotyrothery: im on
[02:08] <wigfreitz> give: I get this a lot, I think they fall asleep, perhaps playing poker in the rack
[02:08] <cotyrothery> ok I see you
[02:08] <toddy> yeah,so what?any diff channel?
[02:08] <give> wig: who?
[02:08] <metbsd> no it's okay
[02:09] <wigfreitz> give: my servers, If I dont give them anything to do, they fall asleep
[02:09] <mezziah> metbsd: aren't there any people who are willing to help you in #ubuntu-cn?
what's your os?
[02:09] <metbsd> wow, i didn't know this channel at all!
[02:09] <mezziah> alright then, now you do :>
[02:09] <toddy> I installed my ubuntu for just a month
[02:09] <juhuhu> hi guxs
[02:09] <metbsd> toddy, im on windows xp now
[02:10] <juhuhu> can anyone hekp me
[02:10] <metbsd> toddy, i have netbsd in vmware
[02:10] <JokeR-> Hello everyone
[02:10] <JokeR-> i need a lil help
[02:10] <juhuhu> me too
[02:10] <Jit> hello freinds
[02:10] <toddy> ao!
[02:11] <toddy> that's too slow!
[02:11] <Jammer> !ask
[02:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:11] <JokeR-> okay ;)
[02:11] <juhuhu> beryl...
[02:11] <juhuhu> is it included in live cd
[02:11] <wigfreitz> give: and I have to wake them by hammering the F5 jey
[02:11] <wigfreitz> key
[02:11] <juhuhu> which i get from shipit
[02:11] <juhuhu> 7.04 version...
[02:11] <juhuhu> ?
[02:12] <liquiddoom> !info libpthread
[02:12] <ubotu> Package libpthread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:12] <nhy> hello everyone
[02:12] <give> wig: but i sent a http request. why doesnt this wake up the machine but a ping does?
[02:12] <geet> hello
[02:12] <nhy> does anyone have experience with wicd?
[02:12] <xbillRULEZ> !kde
[02:12] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[02:12] <nhy> I can't seem to get wicd to launch
[02:12] <mezziah> what country is .ba? like, bahamas?
[02:13] <juhuhu> bosnia
[02:13] <JokeR-> so.. i request ubuntu's cd before 3-4 weeks and yesterday i received the package. i put the cd in the cd-rom then i reboot. when it loaded i choose start or install ubuntu but it write me back some error and the pc reboot itself
[02:13] <geet> ahh
[02:13] <mezziah> ah thanks, good to know
[02:13] <juhuhu> your'e welcome :D
[02:13] <JokeR-> (sorry for my bad english)
[02:13] <JokeR-> can anyone help me?
[02:13] <juhuhu> i can't
[02:13] <juhuhu> sorry
[02:13] <juhuhu> i also need help
[02:14] <juhuhu> with beryl..
[02:14] <juhuhu> i dont know is it included in 7.04
[02:14] <juhuhu> and how to run it
[02:14] <nhy> juhuhu, its not
[02:14] <mezziah> juhuhu: no, it's not, you need to set up extra repos for that
[02:14] <JokeR-> http://www.beryl-project.org/
[02:14] <GeekMaster1> Does anyone in here use VirtualBox? Does anyone have experience with VirtualBox?
[02:14] <nhy> juhuhu, beryl is no longer being developed
[02:14] <geet> GeekMaster1, I do
[02:14] <Imitation> i do too
[02:14] <mezziah> nhy: aren't there nightlies anymore?
[02:15] <nhy> its being merged into compiz
[02:15] <juhuhu> what aobut compiz
[02:15] <nhy> mezziah: the new name is compiz fusion
[02:15] <GeekMaster1> geet: Do you have IM?
[02:15] <juhuhu> is it included
[02:15] <GeekMaster1> geet: My issue is VERY complicated
[02:15] <juhuhu> in feisty
[02:15] <nhy> I think so
[02:15] <mezziah> nhy: yer i already knew that, but in the beryl forums they always provided fresh nightlies.. *checks*
[02:15] <geet> Yes I have AIM/MSN/Yahoo
[02:15] <nhy> of what?
[02:16] <mezziah> beryl
[02:16] <toddy> What's your issue?Geek*?
[02:16] <nhy> compiz? beryl? compiz fusion?
[02:16] <juhuhu> so can i run compiz
[02:16] <juhuhu> or whichever is included
[02:16] <juhuhu> in 7.04??
[02:16] <mezziah> are there any builds for compiz fusion out yet?
[02:16] <GeekMaster1> geet: can I please IM you? AIM: danielmichel0101 Yahoo!: danielmochel0101 MSN: danielmichel0101
[02:16] <liquiddoom> !info libthread
[02:16] <ubotu> Package libthread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:16] <nhy> no official builds
[02:16] <modpl> hi guys... i have a usb disk connected with 1 ntfs and 1 fat32 partition... i want to install ubuntu to the fat32 partition but it doesnt show up in gparted
[02:16] <nhy> yet
[02:17] <nhy> but does anyone know anything about wicd?
[02:17] <juhuhu> so at the moment
[02:17] <nhy> I can't seem to get it to run
[02:17] <juhuhu> i cant run compiz
[02:17] <juhuhu> or beryl
[02:17] <juhuhu> or fusion
[02:17] <nhy> juhuhu, why?
[02:17] <Imitation> modpl: forget ibstalling linux on fat32
[02:17] <juhuhu> wihtioud downloading anything?
[02:17] <nhy> juhuhu, correct
[02:17] <juhuhu> because i run it only as live cd
[02:17] <mezziah> juhuhu: may i talk to you in private channel?
[02:17] <juhuhu> sure :D
[02:17] <modpl> imitation... yeah, of course i need to format the disk
[02:17] <juhuhu> please
[02:18] <modpl> the fat32 partition to ext3
[02:18] <nomic> i've downloaded ubuntu iso what is the burner to make a bootable install disk
[02:18] <nomic> one i got doesn't boot
[02:18] <liquiddoom> !burn | nomic
[02:18] <modpl> but my main issue is that i can't find it.. :!
[02:18] <ubotu> nomic: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:18] <nomic> ty
[02:18] <nhy> juhuhu, if you want it to run off the live cd then use ubuntu ultimate
[02:18] <askand> I cant play dvds in mplayer.. :O why?
[02:19] <toddy> it was designed!
[02:19] <mat1980> askand: maybe you need decss
 The DVDs might need libdvdcss.
[02:19] <mat1980> !dvd
[02:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:20] <askand> liquiddoom: I have libdvdcss installed already
[02:20] <nhy> I think my /etc/network/interfaces is messed up
[02:20] <nhy> does anyone know what the default is?
[02:20] <juhuhu> i found this on ubuntu site
[02:20] <juhuhu> "Desktop Effects
[02:20] <juhuhu> Stunning new desktop effects are available as a technology preview for users who choose to enable them. They remain turned off by default, for the benefit of users with older or less powerful chips and certain non-supported graphics cards.
[02:20] <juhuhu> "
[02:20] <juhuhu> what does that mean
[02:20] <juhuhu> which effects?
[02:21] <juhuhu> pls guys help me
[02:21] <rausb0> juhuhu: wobbling windows and such
[02:21] <juhuhu> ok
[02:21] <juhuhu> thx
[02:21] <nhy> juhuhu: its talking about beryl/compiz
[02:21] <A_I_> how can I get the list of files provided by a non-installed packet ?
[02:21] <nhy> juhuhu, if you want to run beryl off the live cd try ubuntu ultimate
[02:22] <mat1980> nhy: I guess it depends on your system. Try to boot with a live cd and cut & paste. Or paste your in pastebin, maybe we can help you.
[02:22] <A_I_> using apt ?
[02:22] <modpl> how do i mount an external usb drive with two partitions_
[02:22] <rizko> hallo ubuntu lover :)
[02:22] <modpl> ?
[02:22] <MenZa> I'm having some problems writing to HFS+ in Ubuntu; I've tried doing sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 -rw /media/hfsplus but I get "Read-only file-system" when I attempt to copy to it. Any ideas?
[02:22] <toddy> metbsd go out?
[02:22] <nhy> mat1980: I'll pastebin it
[02:23] <mat1980> modpl: it should be automounted. both partitions should be mounted separately and an icon should be showed on desktop
[02:23] <juhuhu> ko dudes
[02:23] <toddy> are you in?
[02:23] <juhuhu> see ya
[02:23] <juhuhu> tanks
[02:23] <juhuhu> thanks
[02:23] <juhuhu> for your time
[02:23] <modpl> mat1980... it doesn't mount it automatically
[02:23] <juhuhu> geetings from gradacac, bosnia :D
[02:23] <A_I_> ok men thanks for your help
[02:23] <nhy> juhuhu: np
[02:23] <cotyrothery> who is it that needs help with beryl
[02:23] <nhy> mat1980: http://pastebin.com/934041
[02:24] <Imitation> modpl: your exrernal hard drive probably is sda, so try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /your/mountpoint"
[02:24] <Toma-> *greetings
[02:24] <mazzapan> anybody know of a wireless usb adapter that will work with Feisty Fawn (7.04)  ?
[02:24] <nhy> cotyrothery: I think he solved his problems
[02:24] <cotyrothery> oh ok
[02:24] <juhuhu> you think wrong ;D
[02:24] <modpl> isn't there an easy way to show all connected harddrives?
[02:24] <nhy> lol sorry
[02:24] <MenZa> !hardware | mazzapan
[02:24] <ubotu> mazzapan: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:25] <mazzapan> thanks
[02:25] <cotyrothery> juhuhu: what do you need help with
[02:25] <RainC1> Hi
[02:25] <mat1980> modpl: strange. give the output of mount.
[02:25] <Ind[y] > I have apache 2.2.3 running on Ubuntu Linux. How do I configure apache, to handle every file found in the document root, with the extension .py to handle it as a cgi script? Thanks a lot in advance.
[02:25] <nhy> what is the default /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:26] <gordonjcp> Ind[y] : have a look at mod_pythob
[02:26] <gordonjcp> python
[02:26] <Ind[y] > nhy: there isn't
[02:26] <MenZa> Ind[y] : I think you're better off asking that in #apache, but it's probably in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[02:26] <ReServe2> how do I find what version of ubuntu I am running?
[02:26] <modpl> sda, wich is my main harddrive and not the external one is sda and mounted to /mnt
[02:26] <Ind[y] > MenZa: ok, thanks
[02:26] <MenZa> Ind[y] : np
[02:26] <Ind[y] > gordonjcp: no, I want cgi
[02:26] <ReServe2> damn, wrong key
[02:26] <nhy> Ind[y] : well how is it generated?
[02:26] <cotyrothery> juhuhu: did you need help with beryl or not?
[02:27] <ReServe2> how do I find what version of ubuntu I am running?
[02:27] <MenZa> I'm having some problems writing to HFS+ in Ubuntu; I've tried doing sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 -rw /media/hfsplus but I get "Read-only file-system" when I attempt to copy to it. Any ideas?
[02:27] <CheshireViking> !version | ReServe2
[02:27] <ubotu> ReServe2: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:27] <RainC1> I can't get Apache and PHP5 from the repositories working... :S I've it installed but if I enter http://localhost it redirects me to http://localhost/xampp and gives error (I was using XAMPP for Linux previously), and if I run 'apache2' it says that /etc/apache2/httpd.conf doesn't exists (and it doesn't), altought I've it installed (installed packages: http://utils.eurion.net/pastebin/index.php?46536)
[02:27] <ReServe2> lsb_release then?
[02:27] <jonnoob> Hi. Does anybody know how to get USB-media to allow non-ascii characters in filenames on LTSP?
[02:27] <MenZa> ReServe2: lsb_release -a
[02:27] <A_I_> A_I_ use apt-file --help
[02:27] <ReServe2> ok, thanks
[02:28] <Syntux> whats wrong in this bzip2 -c > ads.sql.date+'+%Y%m%d'.bz2  ? I'm trying to concact date with the file name.
[02:28] <nhy> How can I reconfigure /etc/network/interfaces to the default
[02:28] <MenZa> I suggest you follow this guide, RainC1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:28] <Sjimmie> Syntux: you should put it between ``
[02:29] <Asjka> Hi
[02:29] <Asjka> I have a little problem
[02:29] <MenZa> hello
[02:29] <Sjimmie> Syntux: so like this: ads.sql.`date +%Y%m%d`
[02:29] <keck0f> hi.
[02:29] <JokeR-> CAN ANYONE HELP ME!?!
[02:29] <Sjimmie> JokeR-: CAPS OFF
[02:29] <MenZa> JokeR-: Depends on the nature of your problem. Please don't use caps.
[02:29] <Asjka> I reboot my machine and now I only see the error: Segmentation fault
[02:29] <modpl> is there a default root password in ubuntu?
[02:29] <JokeR-> hh
[02:29] <MenZa> !root | modpl
[02:29] <ubotu> modpl: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:29] <MenZa> Asjka: ouch
[02:29] <Asjka> when I execute some programs for example bash, or nano
[02:29] <Asjka> the system says "Segmentation fault"
[02:30] <Asjka> I can't execute terminal or others apps
[02:30] <Asjka> only sh
[02:30] <Asjka> shell and some programs
[02:30] <keck0f> is there a way to run caagent/uagent from arcserve on ubuntu-amd64?
[02:30] <Asjka> And in the first step of grub
[02:30] <Imitation> modpl: if you don't like sudo, you can set the root password with "sudp passwd"
[02:30] <Asjka> I can read "no sleep " continiuing normal boot
[02:30] <JokeR-> can anyone help me?
[02:30] <JokeR-> can anyone help me?
[02:31] <mat1980> nhy: uhm... have you tried to disable all your netword kard by the control panel?
[02:31] <Cromag> !ask
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <HipHop2JoA>   
[02:31] <A_I_> don't forget to do "apt-file update"
[02:31] <nhy> mat1980: I will now
[02:31] <mezziah> !english | HipHop2JoA
[02:31] <ubotu> HipHop2JoA: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:31] <HipHop2JoA>  ?
[02:31] <Sjimmie> Syntux: did that work?
[02:31] <CheshireViking> !ask | JokeR-
[02:31] <ubotu> JokeR-: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <HipHop2JoA> hello
[02:31] <mezziah> what kind of language is that? korean?
[02:31] <JokeR-> so.. i request ubuntu's cd before 3-4 weeks and yesterday i received the package. i put the cd in the cd-rom then i reboot. when it loaded i choose start or install ubuntu but it write me back some error and the pc reboot itself
[02:31] <MenZa> hi, HipHop2JoA
[02:32] <Jit> i have hp pavilion 2214 i installed ubuntu on it with windows vista suddenly in ubuntu sound is not working
[02:32] <gordonjcp> JokeR-: "some error"?
[02:32] <Syntux> Sjimmie, Yeah! thank you :-)
[02:32] <Sjimmie> JokeR-: What is the error? :)
[02:32] <MenZa> Yes, Korean, mezziah
[02:32] <Sjimmie> Syntux: great :)
[02:32] <JokeR-> dont know it writes "Loading" and afterthat a small dialog box appears where the only one option is reboot
[02:32] <nhy> mat1980: It is diabled
[02:32] <nhy> *disabled
[02:33] <nhy> mat1980: All I want to do is use wicd to manage my connection
[02:33] <JokeR-> ?
[02:33] <nhy> mat1980: because network manager doesn't have as much support for wpa
[02:33] <Sjimmie> asshole
[02:33] <Imitation> JokeR: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 before you get the message. you will see what went wrong.
[02:34] <nhy> mat1980: but wicd won't run
[02:34] <JokeR-> Imitation
[02:34] <JokeR-> okay
[02:34] <mat1980> nhy: ok. good program. I didn't know it.
[02:34] <nhy> nothing happens when I open the program
[02:34] <nhy> I suspect its because my /etc/network/interfaces is messed up
[02:35] <mat1980> nhy: is now your /etc/network/interfaces clean?
[02:35] <nhy> mat1980: clean?
[02:35] <dromer> hmm, I keep getting segmentation fault on firefox .. but I con run it over x-forwarding however
[02:35] <dromer> can*
[02:35] <CarlFK> is there a 'ubuntu way' to add options to apache2.conf ?
[02:35] <dromer> 'ubuntu way' == 'debian way' ? :P
[02:35] <CarlFK> which is probably the 'debian way' - which I don't know either
[02:35] <CarlFK> exactly.
[02:35] <nhy> mat1980: you mean I should just delete everything in it?
[02:35] <dromer> :P
[02:36] <nhy> would that work?
[02:36] <nhy> or would it just make things worse?
[02:36] <[ThC] Primski> hey, whats the command to get a psasword hash, need one for a .htpasswd file for my trac system
[02:36] <mat1980> nhy: no, ehm... I mean tidy
[02:36] <dromer> CarlFK: check debianadmin.com
[02:36] <nhy> It doesn't need to be set to anything informative
[02:37] <dromer> so, can anyone help me with my segmentation-error of firefox? because I _can_ run it over x-forwarding, but not on the local machine :S
[02:37] <nhy> just something that won't do anything and won't mess it up
[02:37] <eljak> CarlFK, you can enable/disable modules and websites
[02:37] <nhy> are there some neutral settings that  can fill it up with?
[02:37] <toddy> is matbst in?
[02:38] <mat1980> nhy: then delete all but the lines with "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[02:38] <nhy> kk
[02:39] <uptownben> Hi All. I am preparing to install UBUNTU on a compact flash card whic I plan to install in a notebook using a CF to IDE adapter. So far I have confirmed that the CF/IDE adapter works as it should, the only thing I can cant find info on is how to set it up so it doesnt kill me CF card in a few days due to large amounts of writes (swap) since CF cards have a limited number of writes. any ideas?
[02:40] <JokeR-> i made some pictures of the error
[02:41] <[ThC] Primski> lets see
[02:41] <Imitation> uptownben: just don't create a swap partition on the cf
[02:42] <CarlFK> eljak: huh?
[02:42] <insane_alien> is it normal for virtualbox to max out the processor even when the guest OS is just idling?
[02:43] <JokeR-> http://i13.tinypic.com/4l770d4.jpg http://i19.tinypic.com/664c8dx.jpg http://i17.tinypic.com/4tawl1w.jpg
[02:43] <JokeR-> see now
[02:43] <CarlFK> insane_alien: is the gust OS win?
[02:43] <insane_alien> guest OS seems irrelevant as it happens with ubuntu,98, XP, redhat
[02:44] <c_lisp> how do you unistall applications?
[02:44] <CarlFK> insane_alien: with qemu, I see it when the gust is win, but not linux
[02:44] <insane_alien> but its 98 that is installed just now
[02:44] <JokeR-> Imitation
[02:44] <JokeR-> http://i13.tinypic.com/4l770d4.jpg http://i19.tinypic.com/664c8dx.jpg http://i17.tinypic.com/4tawl1w.jpg
[02:44] <mat1980> JokeR-: I guess cd is broken. try to select the menu "Check cd for defects"
[02:44] <askand> Is the mplayer package in ubuntu repositories without dvd support?
[02:44] <defrysk> c_lisp, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[02:44] <JokeR-> hmm
[02:44] <insane_alien> oh well,
[02:45] <JokeR-> mat1980
[02:45] <insane_alien> i'll just try vmware-server again
[02:45] <JokeR-> i have 3 cds
[02:45] <CarlFK> JokeR-: did you "Check CD for defects" ?
[02:45] <JokeR-> and they all give that error
[02:45] <CarlFK> insane_alien: did you try qemu?
[02:45] <liquiddoom> JokeR-: It could be your CD-ROM drive acting up
[02:45] <JokeR-> CarlFK
[02:45] <JokeR-> nope
[02:45] <CheshireViking> JokeR-, did you download the isos & burn to cd? or are they from shipit?
[02:45] <insane_alien> i've tried Qemu to the same effect
[02:46] <JokeR-> liquiddoom i've tried 2 cd-roms
[02:46] <eljak> CarlFK, i dont know if i understood well your questions but there are commands in ubuntu that let you enable/disable modules and websites like for example a2enmod to enable a module for apache
[02:46] <JokeR-> CheshireViking i request them
[02:46] <mat1980> askand: no, mplayer should play dvd. At least they are encrypted, than you'll need decss. But you already has it installed, if I have understood right
[02:46] <liquiddoom> JokeR-: It sounds like a drive problem, not a disk one.
[02:46] <JokeR-> dont know
[02:47] <insane_alien> i had vmware-server working perfect but i trashed my harddrive by accident and it won't install
[02:47] <JokeR-> ill do the "Check CD for defects"
[02:47] <JokeR-> and try again
[02:47] <CarlFK> JokeR-: until "Check CD for defects" passes no point in trying to boot
[02:47] <CarlFK> so yeah, do that. :)
[02:48] <CarlFK> insane_alien: try qemu - it is pretty cool
[02:48] <insane_alien> i have tried it
[02:48] <DrFrasierCrane> insane_alien: http://www.virtualbox.org
[02:48] <insane_alien> thats what i'm using just now
[02:48] <kippi> what is the best way to have to ubuntu machines linked together? so if one is down the other one comes up
[02:49] <CarlFK> oh, it was joke that said "nope", you said yes...    nm
[02:49] <giany911> guys i have a bluetooth adapter on my pc and bluetooth on my phone, do you think its possible to share my pc internet connection with my phone ?
[02:49] <DrFrasierCrane> insane_alien: is it working well ?
[02:49] <uptownben> imitation: what will the consequences of not creating a SWAP partition be? Will UBUNTU automatically use RAM?
[02:49] <insane_alien> i ant to get back to vmware since that didn't eat up my processor
[02:49] <Pici> uptownben: Yes. It should use the ram.
[02:49] <CarlFK> insane_alien: have you found the c-a-2 command prompt?
[02:49] <insane_alien> DrFrasierCrane: it works, not well though
[02:49] <insane_alien> ca2?
[02:50] <CarlFK> Ctrl-Alt-2 (not f2, like I somehow thought at first)
[02:50] <insane_alien> never heard of it
[02:50] <mat1980> !ntfs
[02:50] <insane_alien> ohh
[02:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:50] <giany911> guys i have a bluetooth adapter on my pc and bluetooth on my phone, do you think its possible to share my pc internet connection with my phone ?
[02:50] <insane_alien> yeah i know that
[02:50] <uptownben> OK. kewl. I'll try it. I read somewhere that I should use the ALTERNATIVE iso image for this can anyone confirm that or tell me what the difference is?
[02:50] <insane_alien> i just didn't get the shortened version
[02:50] <CarlFK> giany911: depends on the phone. ubuntu side can do it
[02:51] <slytherin> giany911: Not sure that can be done.
[02:51] <slytherin> Anybody here having good experience with docbook?
[02:51] <giany911> clarfk: well ... how do i set it up ?:D at least on the ubuntu side
[02:52] <orpheusONE> kann mir jemand zu Grub was helfen?
[02:52] <CheshireViking> !de  | orpheusONE
[02:52] <ubotu> orpheusONE: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:53] <mezziah> orpheusONE: sicher koennen wir das, aber hier spricht man nur englisch, kannst die frage auf englisch stellen wenn moeglich
[02:53] <GeekMaster1_> I totally forgot who I was talking to on IM. PLEASE send me another IM as I had to re-boot
[02:53] <orpheusONE> danke, ich gehe zur -de seite ber ;-)
[02:53] <mezziah> okay
[02:54] <abdel_> hello
[02:54] <nomic> ON INSTALL: i am getting '230.844667 Buffer I/O error on device fd0 logical block 0' when i manage to install (XUBUNTU) the system crashes and fails to boot (boots to service prompt) after a few hours ... IS THE H/D DRIVE I AM USING BAD?  i have a verified install disk the H/D is a maxtor fireball
[02:55] <kippi> how well does a HA work with ubuntu
[02:55] <slytherin> nomic: Yes, the HD is probably bad.
[02:55] <nomic> ty sly
[02:55] <slytherin> kippi: What is HA?
[02:55] <Imitation> nomic: or your ram. try memtest
[02:56] <mat1980> nomic: fd0 is floppy. I guess there is nothing wrong with hd.
[02:56] <nomic> ok imitation
[02:56] <nomic> bye
[02:56] <wols_> !abnothis error is about fd0.floppy
[02:56] <slytherin> mat1980: a, looks like he has left a floppy in drive and the boot order is setup that way.
[02:56] <wols_> nomego: this error is about fd0.floppy
[02:56] <nhy> I'm back
[02:57] <nhy> and wicd still won't work
[02:58] <[ThC] Primski> hello, how do i pygmentize on trac ?
[02:58] <enry> hey i can see the video of my tv-card but not the audio
[02:58] <enry> help
[02:58] <mat1980> slytherin: I never seen that message leaving floppy in the drive... it should complain no os is found.
[02:58] <ertan> s.
[02:58] <ertan> a
[02:58] <ertan> s.a
[02:58] <enry> my tv card is a bt878
[02:58] <ertan> hello
[02:59] <enry> Empire Enjoy tv albatross
[02:59] <enry> anybody can help me?
[02:59] <wols_> enry: is your sound usually working? is the cable fromt he tv card going to the line in of the soundcard?
[02:59] <slytherin> mat1980: May it is throwing error while reading a bad floppy to boot from it.
[02:59] <AlexC_> enry: wow, slow down mate - no need to press enter so much,
[02:59] <enry> wols_,  yes
[03:00] <GizDrak> Anyone know why gedit would lock up and not save a file when I do a save or a save as?
[03:00] <slytherin> enry: I think that is an already reported bug.
[03:00] <ertan> hi !!
[03:00] <enry> i try also with a eraphone and there is no sound
[03:00] <slytherin> ertan: hi
[03:00] <ertan> slytherin: sen ununtumu kullanorsun ?
[03:01] <enry> it was a battle to configure it and now the video is perfect but there is no sound :((((
[03:01] <ertan> slytherin: sen ununtumu kullanorsun ?
[03:01] <AlexC_> !repeat | ertan
[03:01] <ubotu> ertan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:02] <A_I_> does someone know where's the file to store default configuration for keymap in console mode ?
[03:02] <A_I_> in order not to have to enter 'loadkeys fr' at every login
[03:02] <nhy> I get this when I try to start wicd  http://pastebin.com/934065
[03:03] <slytherin> ertan: I am sorry, I don't understand your language
[03:03] <sx66gns> sup
[03:03] <mat1980> slytherin: but that seems a linux message
[03:03] <wols_> !tr | ertan
[03:03] <ubotu> ertan: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:03] <nhy> Its driving me crazy
[03:03] <L0cKn> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/22/report-vista-more-secure-than-os-x-and-linux/
[03:04] <nhy> L0cKn: lol
[03:04] <wols_> nhy: drives the slowness of pastebin.com crazy
[03:04] <L0cKn> HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAH nhy HAHAHAHA
[03:04] <ertan> turkish
[03:04] <nhy> i know
[03:04] <Pici> !tr | ertan
[03:04] <ubotu> ertan: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:04] <insane_alien> my mums workplace is getting 'upgraded' to vista
[03:04] <wols_> nhy: then why do you use it?
[03:04] <slytherin> mat1980: Leave it. The reporter is gone.
[03:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[03:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:04] <AlexC_> L0cKn: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:05] <L0cKn> sorry AlexC_
[03:05] <ertan> whay not !!!
[03:05] <nhy> wols_: I'm just a noob ;-)
[03:05] <slytherin> insane_alien: They will soon regret it. :-)
[03:05] <insane_alien> they already are
[03:05] <nhy> insane_alien: I'm so sorry. How did that happen?
[03:05] <ertan> what !!!
[03:05] <insane_alien> i was there to make backups this morning because their tech guys won't do it
[03:06] <AlexC_> ertan: stop that,
[03:06] <insane_alien> i have no idea
[03:06] <ertan> okey ! yes
[03:06] <insane_alien> on the plus side, they all think ubuntu +beryl is prettier
[03:06] <insane_alien> so i gave them all disks
[03:06] <CyberMad> what is the best jabber client on linux?
[03:07] <nhy> insane_alien: Be careful. I know someone who installed vista and it changed around all of his drive names
[03:07] <CyberMad> i mean ubuntu
[03:07] <wols_> !best
[03:07] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:07] <nhy> insane_alien: nice
[03:07] <Tomcat_> CyberMad: Depends on what you need. I like gaim :)
[03:07] <nhy> insane_alien: give them ubuntu ultimate
[03:07] <insane_alien> i've never tried that
[03:07] <CyberMad> Tomcat_ it's pidgin right now
[03:07] <Tomcat_> CyberMad: Ubuntu ships gaim.
[03:07] <nhy> me neither
[03:07] <insane_alien> whats so ultimate about it?
[03:07] <nhy> I've got a ppc chip
[03:08] <nhy> it looks very nice though
[03:08] <nhy> i've heard good things about it
[03:08] <CyberMad> tomcat ahh.. :) ok
[03:08] <Tomcat_> :-)
[03:08] <insane_alien> i prefer getting the base distro and then running a script i made to customise it
[03:08] <insane_alien> works much beeter than automatix2
[03:09] <insane_alien> though, it is inflexible though
[03:10] <alesan> is there a tool to remove printing limitations from pdf files? I can print it from kpdf or similar but if I open on a windwos computer on acroread it refuses to print it
[03:10] <nhy> so no one knows anything about wicd or wpa with bcm43xx?
[03:10] <alesan> pdftk wants the password to remove limitations which is silly, that password protects nothing
[03:10] <newuser> hi..  i need help
[03:11] <nhy> alesan: are you sure thats not a feature ;-)
[03:11] <newuser> i have this message
[03:11] <newuser> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:11] <newuser> ehat should i do?
[03:11] <newuser> what
[03:11] <alesan> newuser, ... not very difficult
[03:11] <AlexC_> newuser: you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[03:11] <newuser> how?
[03:11] <insane_alien> go to a terminal and type 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:11] <AlexC_> type dpkg --configure -a
[03:11] <insane_alien> without the quotes
[03:12] <skarta> hi there
[03:12] <newuser> ok..  tahn i see a skypr configuration.. but nothing i can do
[03:12] <Iwizzard> Hi, I have installed a printer Bother MFc 210c in ubuntu (latest).  and shared it. Anyone know how I add the printer in Mac os X?
[03:13] <sebrock> how do I remove an old kernel from terminal?
[03:13] <phake> if i config xgl it runs fine, but after reboot i have only grafik-errors and in logfile i read "failed to initialize DRI-Mode"
[03:13] <saintz0r> hey there. i know this is a little offtopic but here it goes anyway: can anyone show me how to upload my own torrents using rtorrent?
[03:13] <AlexC_> Iwizzard: why would you come to #ubuntu on help for adding a printer for MacOSX?
[03:13] <mazzapan> stupid f-spot decided to crash instead of doing the work of importing 250 pics
[03:13] <Iwizzard> AlexC_:  migt be trubble wit the lkinux side
[03:13] <skarta> need some help with ubuntu
[03:13] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> he lo
[03:13] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> he lo
[03:13] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> he lo
[03:13] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> ?
[03:13] <Iwizzard> had a loooot of trubble wit thr printer
[03:13] <Pici> !hi | BachCo^ngCo^ng
[03:13] <ubotu> BachCo^ngCo^ng: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:13] <AlexC_> yes, good work - nice one BachCo^ngCo^ng
[03:14] <furball> hi all.
[03:14] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> ji Pici
[03:14] <BachCo^ngCo^ng> ^^
[03:14] <skarta> i can only access ntfs partitions in ro mode
[03:14] <skarta> need them to be rw
[03:14] <skarta> any suggestions?
[03:14] <AlexC_> !ntfs | skarta
[03:14] <ubotu> skarta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:14] <Mba7eth> hi all .... Guys i just updated my ubuntu and then restarted the box .... now the grub is howing for me 2 more options with different kernal version numbers!!! how can i remove the old ones ?
[03:14] <AlexC_> !ntfs-3g | skarta
[03:14] <ubotu> skarta: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:15] <skarta> thanks
[03:15] <furball> i've got a little problem. I've just installed ubutu-server and when it is about to boot up, i get past the offer to press ESC to enter the GRUB menu but just after that my computer reboots. Safemode doesn't work either. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <insane_alien> ntfs-3g
[03:15] <QwertyM> skarta, you can do an apt-get install ntfs-config and then check 2 boxes in it and hit ok
[03:15] <QwertyM> thats all it'd take
[03:16] <GizDrak-Server> I get this when I do a save out of gedit. I have to click in the command line to get it to finsh saving and close. http://pastebin.com/934068
[03:16] <skarta> right
[03:16] <skarta> will try that too
[03:16] <skarta> too much info
[03:16] <QwertyM> skarta, it just installs ntfs-3g actually :P
[03:16] <skarta> i'm new to ubuntu but really want to stick to it
[03:17] <skarta> i love it
[03:17] <QwertyM> but comes with a GUI tool
[03:17] <Jc> Hello
[03:17] <skarta> managed to configure everything else by muself
[03:17] <Jc> i'm looking for help for an installation on a laptop
[03:17] <RainCT> MenZa: thanks
[03:18] <skarta> i can access the ntfs partitions only in ro mode
[03:18] <Jc> can anybody help ?
[03:18] <mat1980> Jc: what's the problem?
[03:18] <skarta> need to copy files from them that's why i need the rw mode
[03:18] <RainCT> does the /etc/hosts file accept wildcards?
[03:18] <Jc> the problem is the X server won't start, it tells me "Fatal server error: no screen found"
[03:18] <darksoul_> !ntfs skarta
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs skarta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <skarta> i tried modifying the fstab but i can view it not edit it
[03:19] <GizDrak-Server> I take it I am getting http://pastebin.com/934068 because the server does not have a sound card?
[03:19] <AlexC_> !sudo | skarta
[03:19] <ubotu> skarta: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:19] <mat1980> Jc: have you already installed ubuntu, or you neigther can start X on the livecd?
[03:19] <skarta> tried that too
[03:20] <AlexC_> skarta: what error do you get?
[03:20] <Jc> mat1980 not yet installed, i'm trying to install it
[03:20] <Jc> mat1980: but even in 'safe graphics mode', it does not work
[03:20] <skarta> i login as root but when i try to access the drive properties it says i'm not the owner
[03:21] <VSpike> skarta: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:21] <mat1980> Jc: uhm... very annoying
[03:21] <AlexC_> skarta: I thought you said you were editing fstab?
[03:21] <skarta> tried, not succeded
[03:21] <Jc> mat1980, i'm using a "Asus G2P" laptop, and it does not seem to be on the supported material lists
[03:21] <AlexC_> skarta: also, dont login as root - use sudo
[03:21] <raf256> is there limit to positin where linux partition must be in dual-boot? like 32 mb?
[03:21] <skarta> need to be more specific alexc
[03:22] <AlexC_> skarta: read the sudo link Ubotu gave you,
[03:22] <mat1980> Jc: many hardware aren't in supported list and works fine. What graphical card do you have?
[03:22] <skarta> i'm on it
[03:22] <Jc> mat1980, it is an "ATI Radeon Mobility X1700"
[03:23] <wols_> !ati Jc
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati jc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <wols_> !ati | Jc
[03:23] <chadeldridge> !paste
[03:23] <sebrock> hey, how do I remove an old kernel with apt-get?
[03:23] <ubotu> Jc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <wols_> sebrock: like any other package
[03:23] <QwertyM> skarta, sudo gedit /etc/fstab doesnt work ?
[03:24] <okidok1> ya
[03:24] <sebrock> wols_ just apt-get remove kernel-name?
[03:24] <wols_> raf256: as long as there BIOS can boot from the partition all is well. nothing else needed. oh: and it needs to hold tjhe kernel of course. size matters
[03:24] <Frozen_mango> I need help to find a tool or util for comparing certain blocks of text within a doc. If two matches for the same texto block are found, warm me
[03:24] <chadeldridge> sudo apt-get remove name
[03:24] <wols_> sebrock: yes
[03:24] <Jc> wols_, the problem is I have not installed ubuntu yet !
[03:24] <mat1980> Jc: a very troublesome card. However my brother has a laptop with that one and works (even if not very well)
[03:24] <mezziah> sebrock: do you really want to remove the kernel or just the entry in grub?
[03:24] <Pici> Frozen_mango: diff
[03:24] <skarta> didn't try that qwerty
[03:25] <skarta> but i'm on smth good now
[03:25] <skarta> thanks
[03:25] <Jc> mat1980, how did he managed to complete the installation ?
[03:25] <sebrock> mezziha well I dont have any use for it anymore
[03:25] <Frozen_mango> pi: ci: diff? what is diff?
[03:25] <wols_> Jc: doesn't matter. it will work with vesa for starters. and then you install the ati drive
[03:25] <mezziah> ok, alright then
[03:25] <chadeldridge> Ok ... i have an issue compiling an application can someone help with this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26731/
[03:25] <Frozen_mango> pici: what is diff?
[03:25] <sebrock> does that delete headers and grub entrys aswell?
[03:25] <furball> does anybody have any experience installing ubuntu on VIA miniITX systems?
[03:25] <Pici> Frozen_mango: diff is a tool to compare two different files and show you what the differences are.
[03:25] <mezziah> should do it, yes
[03:25] <Jc> wols_, it is not working with the vesa driver... i can't get an X session for the installation
[03:26] <mat1980> Jc: try to get the command "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select ati as driver. If it doesn't work retry selecting vesa.
[03:26] <Nutubuntu> !anyone
[03:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:26] <sebrock> wols_, messiha, does that delete headers and grub entrys aswell?
[03:26] <Frozen_mango> pici: it won't do it for me. What I need is a tool to find exact copies of some text inside the same text
[03:26] <neol> !nvidia
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <mezziah> sebrock: yes
[03:27] <mezziah> sebrock: you can use the tab key for completing nicknames
[03:27] <Jc> mat1980, ok i am going to try this right now
[03:27] <Frozen_mango> like, find all words that cointaing more than one match in the text
[03:27] <Nutubuntu> Is there an issue with Sun's Java jre on the Athlon 64 or 64 X2? I vaguely remember reading something ... want to install the jre on a new X2 box running Feisty.
[03:28] <sebrock> mezziha, no I can't using X-chat Aqua for Mac Os X and that is not included :(
[03:28] <furball> what would cause ubuntu to reboot directly after grub has done it's magic?
[03:28] <sebrock> sorry for misspelling your nick
[03:28] <[ThC] Primski> Anybody good with trac? Im getting a 'cannot import name ListOption' whats that all about? Is that a new thing introduced in recent versions? need to update? or just some misconfiguration ?
[03:28] <mezziah> oh, didn't know that
[03:28] <mezziah> it's ok
[03:28] <skarta> i got it
[03:28] <chadeldridge> can someone help with the GCC error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26731/
[03:28] <Pici> Frozen_mango: I'm not sure what to suggest then. It sounds like you might need `grep`
[03:28] <skarta> thanks  a bunch alex
[03:29] <skarta> another thing.......
[03:29] <Pici> Frozen_mango: `grep text filename` would return all the occurances of text in filename.  If you just wanted the counts, use `grep -c text filename`
[03:29] <Frozen_mango> grep?
[03:29] <skarta> i'm trying to get my se k510i to communicate with the computer
[03:29] <Littlebob> does the netboot image have livecd
[03:30] <skarta> i installed the Kmobile  package but no result
[03:30] <Nutubuntu> !grep
[03:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:30] <GizDrak-Server> When I do a save in gedit I get /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found 5 times in the command line any ideas what may be the issue?
[03:30] <Littlebob> anyone
[03:30] <skarta> i use an usb ir adapter
[03:30] <Pici> Littlebob: Only the desktop cd is a livecd
[03:30] <supremesonic> Hi, I have just setup another screen on my computer, so im running dual screen(twin screen) Was very easy, but when I start ET it only shows on half of one of the screens and very very badly. How can I change that?
[03:31] <Littlebob> poo
[03:31] <newuser> help.... i have sound card problem... i cannot hear any sound......
[03:31] <skarta> anyone?
[03:31] <Pelo> is there a simple app that tells me what is using my bandwidth ? not packet wise but destination applet
[03:31] <supremesonic> pelo: gkrelm
[03:31] <newuser> how to install my soundcard??? i have it on my laptop
[03:31] <saxin> newuser: make sure the sound is not muted.
[03:31] <Pelo> supremesonic, thank you
[03:32] <ogeb> what software i can use for be a dj radio internet
[03:32] <newuser> saxin, it's not muted
[03:32] <Pelo> supremesonic, spelling ?
[03:32] <supremesonic> pelo: sorry with two l's. gkrellm
[03:32] <Pelo> lol
[03:32] <supremesonic> very weird name it got.
[03:33] <saxin> newuser: then I don't know.
[03:33] <chadeldridge> can someone help with the GCC error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26731/
[03:33] <Jc> mat1980, i've tried both modes and it does not work... with ati it gave me the same error and with vesa it got interrupted with signal 11 (sigsegv)
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> ogeb, you would probably have more luck on #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <RainCT> on what folder does Ubuntu's MySQL store the databases?
[03:33] <supremesonic> can anyone help me, I need to know how to set what screen a fullscreen application is started on. Im using twinview(dual monitors)
[03:33] <ogeb> ok thx
[03:34] <Pelo> chadeldridge, look up the error msg in the forum
[03:34] <chadeldridge> been there done that
[03:34] <chadeldridge> bought 2 tshirts
[03:34] <supremesonic> nobody!!? :(
[03:34] <Pelo> supremesonic,  you can probably do that with devil's pie    devilspie in the repos
[03:34] <supremesonic> pelo, thanks :)
[03:34] <Pici> chadeldridge: You could try installing gcc-3.4
[03:34] <chadeldridge> unless your using beryl ... and then it doesnt work
[03:35] <skarta> can u format ntfs partitions under ubuntu?
[03:35] <chadeldridge> Pici:  already installed 3.3 and 3.4 .. no dice
[03:35] <Pelo> supremesonic,  don'T thank me,  devilspie is not gui
[03:35] <newuser> help.... how to install my sound card in my laptop??
[03:35] <supremesonic> I love console :)
[03:35] <Pelo> supremesonic, http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
[03:35] <Pelo> !sound | newuser
[03:35] <ubotu> newuser: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:35] <Pelo> supremesonic,  not quite console either,  is a script type thing
[03:36] <Pelo> supremesonic,  looking it up in the forum to , there is a good howto in there
[03:36] <supremesonic> cool, I will :)
[03:36] <Nutubuntu> Is there an issue with Sun's Java jre on the Athlon 64 or 64 X2? I vaguely remember reading something ... want to install the jre on a new X2 box running Feisty.
[03:37] <GizDrak-Server> Umm I removed ALSA from my system because I do not have a sound card but it also removed like have of all the applications on the system too anyway to restore them all
[03:37] <Pici> chadeldridge: try running `bash ./configure`
[03:37] <supremesonic> natubuntu, if I heard right there isn't any 64bit java on the minors. However you can just download and unpack in /opt or some other place
[03:38] <Pelo> supremesonic,  how is gkrellm suppose to tell me which app is getting my bandwidth ?
[03:38] <Jc> mat1980, so you have no idea left for me ?? :(
[03:38] <chadeldridge> Pici:  well well ... interesting, I wonder why passing the bash makes it work, but it wont work otherwise ... ohh well thanks a ton
[03:38] <supremesonic> you can change the settings by left click on it, then say it shall tell you about bandWITCH :)
[03:38] <enry> wey it's a bug
[03:39] <Pici> chadeldridge: sh links to dash in Ubuntu, not bash.  Its supposed to be more lightweight than bash, but there are some incompatabilities.
[03:39] <enry> the problem with my tv card audio is a kernel's bug
[03:39] <enry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/29789
[03:39] <Nutubuntu> supremesonic, maybe it's my current lack of coffee, but I don't understand "on the minors" ... I can d/l from Sun and unpack in /opt? And not have issues (other than my own ignorance, let's say, might create)?
[03:39] <chadeldridge> Pipi:  i feel stupid now because i should have known that ... thanks
[03:39] <Pici> chadeldridge: no problem ;)
[03:39] <kippi> hey
[03:40] <kippi> has anyone got ucarp working on ubuntu
[03:40] <Nutubuntu> chadeldridge, if it makes you feel any better, I didn't know that either :/
[03:40] <juan278> my internet is screwed up, is there anyway for me do update packages on a conection that stops and starts
[03:40] <mat1980> Jc: sorry, I was busy. Nothing was useful?
[03:40] <sssss> niclk ssssss
[03:40] <sssss> oops
[03:41] <supremesonic> nutubuntu, most of the totally linux GPL and also all others there can handle java code either as javabyte code and run it or translate is, doesn't support all features.
[03:41] <Jc> mat1980, nop it gave me the same result: an error
[03:41] <ssssss> Can anyone help get my sound working? It's stopped for some reason :-(
[03:41] <Nutubuntu> Pici,  how can I tell which shell sh links to ?
[03:41] <mike3_> So I'm pretty sure my HD died this morning. I've come in to find my computer locked up. I do a restart on the computer and it does a FSCK. It complains it cannot mount any partitions or the drive hdbSo I figure I'd run fdisk. Well the HDB isn't even reconized. Is this a clear indication that the drive is dead?
[03:41] <supremesonic> nutubuntu, also on the minors(package minors) they only have 32bit, if I remember right.
[03:42] <Pici> Nutubuntu: `ls -l /bin/sh`
[03:42] <gordonjcp> mike3_: fairly clear, yes
[03:42] <DjViper> mike3_: yes :(
[03:42] <gordonjcp> mike3_: is it even detected by the BIOS?
[03:42] <mike3_> Figure so.
[03:42] <mike3_> yes by the bios is it
[03:42] <Nutubuntu> supremesonic, many thanks. I was running Sun's JRE on my previous box, and happy, so it sounds like I'll be OK on this one too :)
[03:42] <gordonjcp> mike3_: hrm, bios recognises it, but it appears blank?
[03:42] <Nutubuntu> Pici, t/y :)
[03:43] <mat1980>  Jc: sorry... no idea. Maybe there is some problem with live cd of 7.04. Can you download 6.10, install it and then dist-upgrade?
[03:43] <defrysk> mike3_, did you add new hardware to your keyboard recently ?
[03:43] <Syrra> Uhm, after someone installed my new hard drive, Grub is seeing, but not loading, Windows. :( It says it's loading, but nothing happens. Is there anything I can do?
[03:43] <defrysk> keyboard = motherboard
[03:43] <supremesonic> nutubuntu, go unpack it and manuelly link it the bin files to /usr/bin/ with the ln command
[03:43] <supremesonic> !ln nutubuntu
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ln nutubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Jc> mat1980, hm, ok i will try that in last chance
[03:43] <defrysk> mike3_, did you add new hardware to your motherboard recently ?
[03:44] <Nutubuntu> supremesonic, t/y, will do. (I know about ln ... )
[03:44] <supremesonic> nutubuntu, good luck :)
[03:45] <supremesonic> anyone know if you can see what packages there are installed at the currently moment, from the console line?
[03:45] <mat1980> Jc: my brother has your same error after a dist-update. But i thought the problem was he has messed up something. Maybe this time is not his fault.
[03:45] <Jc> mat1980: :)
[03:45] <line72> supremesonic: dpkg -l
[03:46] <wols_> Jc: use the alternate installer
[03:46] <supremesonic> line72, sweet thanks. If I ever gonna move to another compuer I can just play a bit with *nix tills and use that :)
[03:46] <wols_> then when installed, install fglrx
[03:46] <Don64> supermesonic: dpkg --get-selections > ~username/packages.list
[03:46] <Jc> wols_, what do you mean ? safe graphical mode ?
[03:47] <Don64> will put them in a file for u
[03:47] <wols_> Jc: no I mean alternate installed which uses text mode only
[03:47] <mike3_>  no
[03:47] <Jc> wols_, ok, can you tell me how it works ?
[03:47] <defrysk> Jc, the alternative installer cd does a txt mode install
[03:48] <wols_> how what works?
[03:48] <wolfalfa> hello, I'm having trouble with netbeans, could anyone help?
[03:48] <wols_> !ask | wolfalfa
[03:48] <ubotu> wolfalfa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:48] <skarta> need some help on nvidia drivers
[03:48] <GeekMaster1>  hi all. I have another issue.
[03:48] <devcenter> hi, guys
[03:48] <mat1980> wolfalfa: maybe if we know the problem...
[03:48] <supremesonic> wolfalfa, what do you need help with?
[03:48] <defrysk> !nvidia > skarta
[03:48] <Jc> defrysk, ok, how do I start it ?
[03:48] <skarta> i downloaded the .run package from nvidia site but don't know what to do next
[03:48] <wolfalfa> netbeans is hanging on startup. I get a license agreement splash with nothing in it
[03:49] <devcenter> what's a best program to download torrent files
[03:49] <defrysk> Jc, you download it
[03:49] <Jc> ok
[03:49] <mat1980> devcenter: ktorrent
[03:49] <supremesonic> skarta, apt-get install nvidia-glx always work for me.
[03:49] <defrysk> skarta, read the private massage from ubotu
[03:49] <skarta> right
[03:49] <Jc> defrysk, dammit some new 700MB to download ! :(
[03:49] <supremesonic> wolfalfa, do you have latest version of sun java?
[03:50] <wols_> wolfalfa: what java version do you run?
[03:50] <kane77> devcenter, ktorrent
[03:50] <GeekMaster1> I installed VirtualBox and used 80 gigs of my HDD for it's virtual HDD. I decided no tto use it and use VMWare. While I'm setting up the Virtual HDD for VMWare, VMWare is telling me that I only have 10 gigs available for space. obviously this means VirtualBox isn't fully uninstalled, so I was wondering where VirtualBox made the Virtual HDD so I can delete it.
[03:50] <Pici> !torrent | devcenter
[03:50] <wolfalfa> supremesonic: java version "1.6.0"
[03:50] <ubotu> devcenter: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:50] <defrysk> Jc, indeed , I usually download the alternative install cd , hardly have any experience with the live cd
[03:50] <neol> can anyone help me with ubuntu and grub ??
[03:50] <defrysk> Jc, imo the live cd sucks
[03:50] <devcenter> i using deluxe, my normal transfer is 250 Kb/s, but deluxe i have transfered +/- 45Kb/s
[03:50] <supremesonic> wolfalfa, you might need to set it as the default
[03:51] <wolfalfa> wols_: that's java -version
[03:51] <wolfalfa> supremesonic: how do i do that ?
[03:51] <supremesonic> !updat-alternatives | wolfalfa
[03:51] <Jc> defrysk, ok... all I hope is when the install have completed with the text version, the X server will start!
[03:51] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[03:51] <defrysk> jc good luck :)
[03:51] <supremesonic> !update-alternatives | wolfalfa
[03:51] <HorizonXP> i set up cupsys on my ubuntu desktop to allow network printing
[03:51] <devcenter> how can i increase this transfer rate
[03:51] <HorizonXP> but i still can't print
[03:51] <Imitation> geekmaster: usually in your-home-dir/.VitualBox
[03:52] <HorizonXP> any help anyone?
[03:52] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[03:52] <devcenter> what's a best port to use in azureus
[03:52] <wols_> wolfalfa: dpkg -l |grep java
[03:52] <Jc> devcenter,  1337
[03:52] <devcenter> good port
[03:52] <defrysk> devcenter, the best port is a port you have opened
[03:52] <Jc> thank you defrysk :)
[03:52] <wols_> devcenter: there is no best. just a non standard one
[03:53] <Frogzoo> devcenter: usually the high end ports are least likely blocked by isps > 49000
[03:53] <supremesonic> wolfalfa, look at update-alternatives I can't remember how to do it exactly
[03:53] <wolfalfa> wols_: plenty ... anything to look for in particular?
[03:53] <neol> already have 3 OS installed windows,mandriva,ubuntu 6.06.. and i'm format my ubuntu partition and install ubuntu 7.04... but right now i have mandriva's grub running... after installing ubuntu 7.04... i dont want that to touch mandriva grub, how shall i do that ?
[03:53] <defrysk> devcenter, also try portforward.com
[03:53] <wolfalfa> supremesonic: already on it, thanks for the hint
[03:53] <mariocesar_bo> Hi all, i am getting this error when i try to start Rhythmbox: (rhythmbox:21133): RhythmDB-WARNING **: trying to sync properties of non-editable file
[03:53] <HorizonXP> any ideas why i can't get network printing to work?
[03:53] <devcenter> and option UPNP
[03:54] <ssssss> Anyone know how I can reset my sound system as if I was reinstalling the box? eg something with dpkg-reconfigure so it will go reset all my sound options?
[03:54] <mariocesar_bo> I don't know what's wrong? any ideas?
[03:54] <Olgem> How do I get flash running in firefox as I have linux installed on x86_64 and adobe has no flash player for it?
[03:54] <defrysk> devcenter, should work fine for not private torrents
[03:54] <Olgem> I tried gnash but... I'm getting a 1:8 ratio for .swf that work fine and those that don't. It doesn't even play flv.
[03:54] <supremesonic> flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[03:54] <neol> is their anybody who has read my problem here ?
[03:55] <defrysk> neol, if in doubt ask again and make sure to be specific
[03:55] <wols_> Olgem: nspluginwrapper, firefox32bit etc
[03:55] <devcenter> defrysk,
[03:55] <supremesonic> olgem, flashplugin-nonfreep
[03:55] <neol> already have 3 OS installed windows,mandriva,ubuntu 6.06.. and i'm format my ubuntu partition and install ubuntu 7.04... but right now i have mandriva's grub running... after installing ubuntu 7.04... i dont want that to touch mandriva grub, how shall i do that ?
[03:55] <Olgem> Yes yes, one second
[03:55] <defrysk> nofreep ? lol
[03:55] <wols_> supremesonic: that won't work
[03:55] <supremesonic> oops :) sorry
[03:56] <supremesonic> wols_ working perfectly for me, without setup
[03:56] <devcenter> for exemple, amount seeds is necessary for high transfer hate
[03:56] <GeekMaster1> Hey um people? How do I delete a directory?
[03:56] <wols_> supremesonic: it won't work on a 64bit machine
[03:56] <defrysk> GeekMaster1, rm -rf <directory>
[03:56] <wols_> GeekMaster1: rm -rf >dir>
[03:56] <wols_> GeekMaster1: rm -rf <dir>
[03:56] <GeekMaster1> THANKS ALL
[03:56] <supremesonic> wols_ didn't see anything about 64b sorry
[03:57] <defrysk> GeekMaster1, you may try all three ;p
[03:57] <devcenter> exist a program in ubuntu for port forward
[03:57] <tck> how does one increase the amount of time sudo works for, i.e. sudo timestamp?
[03:57] <Olgem> I'm going to look up info on nspluginwrapper and 32bit firefoxx
[03:57] <Olgem> thanks
[03:57] <wols_> devcenter: yes. iptables. are you doing NAT with ubuntu?
[03:57] <tck> not sudo -v,
[03:57] <defrysk> devcenter, you router sould do that , but thats off topic for #ubuntu
[03:57] <devcenter> ok,
[03:58] <devcenter> excuse-me
[03:58] <defrysk> devcenter, maybe wols has a solution
[03:58] <soundray> devcenter: you can port-forward in ubuntu, and if that's what you want, you're on topic.
[03:58] <devcenter> ok
[03:58] <wols_> soundray: but I doubt he needs it. but he won't answer my question
[03:58] <neol> has anybody read my problem... i say it again, already have 3 OS installed windows,mandriva,ubuntu 6.06.. and i'm formating my ubuntu partition and installing ubuntu 7.04... but right now i have mandriva's grub running... while installing ubuntu 7.04 i dont that ubuntu's grub to be installed, how shall i do that ???
[03:58] <HipHop2JoA>  ?
[03:59] <devcenter> i have a router, that is conected with hub
[03:59] <soundray> devcenter: maybe devcenter doesn
[03:59] <wolfalfa> wols_, supremesonic: set as default, still not working. I don't know what's the license agreement screen. is there a way to know what it is, or get passed it ?
[03:59] <wols_> don't install ubuntu's grub and edit your mandriva grub menu.lst to boot ubunttu
[03:59] <soundray> oops
[03:59] <wols_> wolfalfa: I asked you to do something
[03:59] <neol> wols_: thats what how shall i stop ubuntu from installing its grub ??
[03:59] <gautam> Hey guys
[03:59] <wols_> wolfalfa: it's a little dialog box where oyu agree to the netbeans license. if you can display that you certainly can't run neatbeans
[04:00] <quaal> does anyone know why the mounts i mount to /media are not showing up in places on the menu bar?
[04:00] <GeekMaster1> Um is there a way to figure out what folders are taking up the most space on my HDD? I have a 166Gig partition on Ubuntu and for some reason I only have 36 gigs available. This is a pretty new install. Can anyone help me?
[04:00] <wols_> neol: I don't know. I don't install uubuntu. uif that doesn't work, just reinstall mandriva grub
[04:00] <gautam> Can someone help me with Grub? Whilst bootin I get error 17
[04:00] <devcenter> what's good, open ports by router program, or use upnp from azureus
[04:00] <wolfalfa> wols_: ask again please
[04:00] <wols_> wolfalfa: scroll up plase
[04:00] <SlimeyPete> GeekMaster1: du -hs *    will list all subfolders and their sizes.
[04:00] <wolfalfa> (=
[04:00] <defrysk> neol, the advantage of ubuntu grub is that is will also detect mandrake, unlike mandrakes grub that does not detect ubuntu, so my advice would be: use ubuntu's grub
[04:01] <soundray> devcenter: to use programs with non-standard ports behind a router, the best thing you can do is to configure the router appropriately.
[04:01] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: baobab
[04:01] <neol> wols_: ok how to reinstall mandriva grub after installing ubuntu... but i want mandriva grub no to be installed in MBR???
[04:01] <neol> definate: i can manage to edit the menu.lst file
[04:01] <Pici> GeekMaster1: There are some gui programs that will give you a graphical view of diskspace usage, such as boabab
[04:01] <wols_> neol: ask mandriva that. not us. it's a mandriva question
[04:02] <GeekMaster1> SlimeyPete: that only does it for the directory that I'm in right? Is there a way to do it for ALL directories?
[04:02] <supremesonic> pelo, im very confused by the tutorial
[04:02] <neol> wols_: ok
[04:02] <defrysk> neol, /j #mandriva and ask there :)
[04:02] <SlimeyPete> GeekMaster1: just cd to / and run it from there, then work your way down. That's what I do.
[04:02] <GeekMaster1> Pici: is there a way to tell me which are my MOST recently installed packages via synaptic?
[04:03] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: File->History
[04:04] <GeekMaster1> mat1980: File-->History? What does that mean? I want a list of my recently installed applications via synaptic package manager
[04:04] <wolfalfa> wols_: 16:52 < wols_> wolfalfa: dpkg -l |grep java
[04:04] <wols_> do not paste here!
[04:04] <wolfalfa> wols_: you want me to flood the channel ?'
[04:04] <GeekMaster1> SlimeyPete cd / takes me to the home directory
[04:04] <wols_> no, non one does
[04:04] <wols_> GeekMaster1: no
[04:04] <wols_> cd ~ does take you there
[04:05] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: open Synaptic, select File then History. There you will see the changes done day by day
[04:05] <cobra306> ppl can anybody help me ?
[04:05] <wolfalfa> wols_: I asked you want me to look at
[04:05] <cobra306> i need some help with beryl
[04:05] <GeekMaster1> mat1980: Thank you VERY much.
[04:05] <soundray> GeekMaster1: no, cd / takes you to the root directory. Try 'sudo du | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn' to see your largest directories.
[04:06] <Shaftino> cobra306, #ubuntu-effects
[04:06] <wols_> !effects| cobra306
[04:06] <ubotu> cobra306: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:06] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: you're wellcome!
[04:06] <GeekMaster1> soundray: danny@danny-desktop:/$ cd /
[04:06] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:/$
[04:06] <soundray> GeekMaster1: that's not your home directory
[04:07] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:/$ 'sudo du | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'
[04:07] <GeekMaster1> bash: sudo du | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn: No such file or directory
[04:07] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:/$
[04:07] <soundray> GeekMaster1: think about this for a while
[04:07] <soundray> GeekMaster1: you're not supposed to copy quotes
[04:07] <GeekMaster1> sorry
[04:07] <GeekMaster1> I used the ' '
[04:08] <abadtooth> hello?
[04:08] <Jc> mat1980, I found another solution , and it workd ;)
[04:08] <soundray> !welcome | abadtooth
[04:08] <wolfalfa> wols_: any ideas?
[04:08] <ubotu> abadtooth: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:09] <Jc> so thank you mat1980 , wols_ , defrysk
[04:09] <abadtooth> Hey guys I installed beryl and my page headers are gone (the shrink close and maximize buttons)
[04:09] <GeekMaster1> soundray: Now that I have this LIST of these packages that I installed via synaptic recently, is there a way to BATCH remove them?
[04:09] <wols_> !effects| abadtooth
[04:09] <ubotu> abadtooth: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:10] <mat1980> Jc: I've lost it... what have you done?
[04:10] <pha|con> this may seem a little confusing, but if i ssh into one computer and then connect a previous screen session and from within that screen session ssh into ANOTHER machine and reconnect a screen session how do i move between screens in the 2nd screen session.  C_a c seems to move me between screens on the 1st screen session
[04:10] <abadtooth> I don't need help with beryl I need help getting my pager header back :(
[04:10] <mat1980> Jc: it could be useful for my brother
[04:10] <soundray> GeekMaster1: can you copy and paste the list into a text file?
[04:10] <Jc> mat1980, following a tutorial, i installed the flgrx drivers and then ran the ati config tool
[04:10] <GeekMaster1> soundray: Might there be a way to batch remove all these apps? http://pastebin.com/934101
[04:10] <wols_> andrewc_: the reason they are gone is beryl
[04:10] <Jc> mat1980, here you have a documentation (in french): http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/probleme_ati
[04:11] <GeekMaster1> soundray: http://pastebin.com/934101
[04:11] <quaal> does anyone know why the mounts i mount to /media are not showing up in places on the menu bar?
[04:11] <tabris|away> pha|con: Ctrl-A Ctrl-A c
[04:11] <wols_> pha|con: define a new screen hotkey for session 2
[04:11] <eljak> abadtooth, install emerald theme manager for beryl coz maybe your theme manager doesnt work with beryl
[04:11] <wols_> pha|con: nested screens are jsut evil tho
[04:11] <tabris|away> pha|con: basically if you ctrl-a ctrl-a, screen will send a ctrl-a to the console
[04:11] <mat1980> Jc: hem... french... well.. I will try to follow it anyway. Thanks for the link!
[04:11] <abadtooth> eljak: the theme manager is installed already
[04:11] <shadowhywind> i just installed my hp printer in linux, and every program can see it but firefox, anyone have any ideas
[04:12] <Jc> mat1980, it is easily understandable: "remplacer" = "replace", and "entre" = enter
[04:12] <Jc> mat1980, then, the code examples don't require translation
[04:12] <pha|con> tabris|away: nah, that just goes back and forth between screens on the 1st connection
[04:12] <eljak> abadtooth, yes i have same problem when i switch to beryl and back to another window manager but i resolve this by enabling emerald when i run beryl
[04:13] <tabris|away> pha|con: trust me. Ctrl-A Ctrl-A <num>
[04:13] <tabris|away> pha|con: I do use nested screen-sessions
[04:13] <abadtooth> eljak:  how do you fix that?
[04:13] <mat1980> Jc: ok, there should be no problem. Thanks a lot!
[04:13] <soundray> GeekMaster1: save the list in a file. Name it for-removal.txt. Then on a command line, run 'cat for-removal.txt | cut -d " " -f 1 | xargs sudo apt-get --purge remove'
[04:13] <GeekMaster1> soundray: is this what's taking up all my space? http://pastebin.com/934103
[04:13] <abadtooth> eljak: I am a complete newb to beryl
[04:14] <pha|con> tabris|away: the 2nd time i to C_a it takes me back to this screen, it's impossible for me to do C_a C_a without being taken back to the previous screen on session 1
[04:14] <pha|con> wols_: how do i define hotkeys for session 2?
[04:14] <Jc> mat1980, you're welcome
[04:14] <pha|con> wols_: or is that in the manfile?
[04:15] <soundray> GeekMaster1: well, most of your space is being taken up by the movies and the virtual machine files.
[04:15] <pha|con> wols_: i wouldn't do nested windows, but thanks to being behind a corp. firewall i have to use part 443 to connect to ssh, so i can only connect to one of my pcs at home, so i ssh from one to the other
[04:15] <SmellyOrc> uys, got a problem. I just downloaded ubuntu 7.04, and tried to install it. All went well, till the GRUB boot loader came up. It couldn't install
[04:15] <tabris|away> pha|con: ok, sorry, got the description slightly wrong.
[04:15] <SmellyOrc> was a fatal error
[04:15] <cobra306> where can i download ati open source drivers ?
[04:15] <SmellyOrc> and installation closed
[04:15] <SmellyOrc> any help?
[04:15] <tabris|away> pha|con:        C-a a       (meta)        Send the command character (C-a) to window. See escape command.
[04:15] <tabris|away> pha|con: so try, Ctrl-A a 1
[04:15] <linuxor> Hi, what is the best software for recording the desktop?
[04:15] <cobra306> where can i download ati open source drivers ??
[04:16] <pha|con> tabris|away: excellent, works like a charm.  many thanks :)
[04:16] <soundray> cobra306: you don't have to download them. They are part of the default ubunt installation.
[04:16] <tete> ola
[04:16] <soundray> *ubuntu
[04:17] <abadtooth> eljak:  what did you mean in your last message? I couldn't figure it out :(
[04:17] <GeekMaster1> soundray, which folder should I delete if I just want to delete the virtual Macine OS' that I have. I don't want to remove VMWare itself o reffect the program at all. I just want to remove the VM's OS'
[04:17] <SmellyOrc> guys (and girls?), I got a problem. I just downloaded ubuntu 7.04, and tried to install it. All went well, till the GRUB boot loader came up. It couldn't install
[04:17] <eljak> abadtooth, i dont know i only know that emerald is default theme manager for beryl so you wont have page headers problem when you enable it
[04:17] <Tom47> !pt > tete
[04:17] <SmellyOrc> it gave a fatal error and installation closed
[04:17] <SmellyOrc> so i cant boot into ubuntu. tried several times... any help would be appreciated :)
[04:17] <abadtooth> eljak:  thats what I want to know is how to enable it
[04:18] <soundray> GeekMaster1: I guess that would be the /var/lib/vmware-server/Virtual Machines/ directory
[04:18] <GeekMaster1> soundray thank you
[04:18] <mat1980> SmellyOrc: Have you more useful message errors?
[04:18] <soundray> SmellyOrc: you can't boot the CD at all?
[04:19] <SmellyOrc> @mat1980 thats all ubuntu gave me
[04:19] <SmellyOrc> couldn't isntall grub boot loader (hd0) this is a fatal error
[04:19] <eljak> abadtooth, install it, sudo apt-get emerald emerald-themes and you will have a menu item for it where you can enable it
[04:19] <SmellyOrc> i can use the live cd however
[04:19] <daniele_982> hello all i've a graphical video geforce 8400 but it not found.I've installed feisty with vesa driver sameone can help me?
[04:19] <soundray> SmellyOrc: and you've gone through the full installation process?
[04:19] <devcenter> I have using deluxe to download torrents, but what's good number of DHT?
[04:19] <SmellyOrc> yes, up untill it wants to install the grub boot loader
[04:20] <pha|con> the only bad thing i can see about nested windows is remember which ones are which.  i have 9 screens open across 2 ssh connections :/
[04:20] <mat1980> SmellyOrc: well... I hope system is installed. boot with livecd. Get a terminal and type "sudo chroot /dev/sda1", assuming your root partition is /dev/sda1. Then you will be able to install grub manually.
[04:20] <soundray> SmellyOrc: the first thing to try is to install the grub boot loader manually. There are instructions for it:
[04:20] <soundray> !grub | SmellyOrc
[04:20] <ubotu> SmellyOrc: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:20] <devcenter> in deluxe settings my DHT is 80, but i would need increase or decrease at value
[04:20] <soundray> SmellyOrc: just use the Recovering... link.
[04:20] <Tom47> yes i lke it
[04:21] <SmellyOrc> lets try that... thansk:)
[04:21] <Shaftino> Anyone know why, even with the gstreamer lame encoder installed, Sound Juicer still wont extract in mp3 format?
[04:21] <Jc> bye
[04:21] <Shaftino> Unless anyone knows if a first gen nano can play ogg?
[04:21] <daniele_982> nothing????
[04:21] <SmellyOrc> error 15: file not found :S
[04:22] <daniele_982>  hello all i've a graphical video geforce 8400 but it not found.I've installed feisty with vesa driver sameone can help me?
[04:23] <linuxor> Where I can find xvidcap for ubuntu 7.04 ?? thx
[04:23] <NekoKun> Guys, a friend of mine has a windows in a partition, but ubuntu isn't seeng it... only the hdb is being seen... any idea?
[04:23] <SmellyOrc> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/sda1: Not a directory
[04:24] <greyfrog> daniele_982, do you know how to use pastebin?
[04:24] <abadtooth> eljak:  I was trying to do what you said to try, but my terminal wont work right.. I can't see anything but a white box when I open it
[04:24] <tck> NekoKun, what command did you execute to show partitions?
[04:24] <mat1980> SmellyOrc: oh... you're right! mount it, than chroot in the directory you have mounted in.
[04:24] <soundray> SmellyOrc: you should say what you've tried. Don't paste error messages, there are pastebins for that.
[04:24] <NekoKun> tck: He's in /dev giving a ls -al
[04:25] <eljak> abadtooth, so disable beryl for the moment
[04:25] <tck> NekoKun, try sudo fdisk -l
[04:26] <eljak> abadtooth, i used beryl for one week than i didnt find it suitable for everyday use so am back to fluxbox but i wish i have the scale/expose thing in fluxbox
[04:26] <daniele_982> greyfrog: yes but for the moment i want know if i must install the closed drive or nvidia-glx new
[04:26] <NewBieBR> alguem do Brasil?
[04:26] <NekoKun> NewBieBR: sim
[04:26] <soundray> !br | NewBieBR
[04:26] <ubotu> NewBieBR: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:26] <greyfrog> daniele_982, I have no idea about that... I was going to make sure your card is recognized to start...
[04:26] <GeekMaster1> soundray: Sorry to bother you again but I'm having some issues. http://pastebin.com/934116 I'm very new to Ubuntu/Linux
[04:26] <ferronica> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libawn-svn_0.1.2-svn204_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libawn.so.0.0.1', which is also in package avant-window-navigator-svn
[04:26] <greyfrog> daniele_982, try doing a lspci at a command line
[04:27] <greyfrog> daniele_982, your video card should be listed
[04:27] <daniele_982> greyfrog: if i use nv X don't start if i use vesa if start
[04:27] <NekoKun> tck: Just worked... hdb1 is the windows partition,thanks
[04:27] <b0nd> hi everyone, i have downloaded a webinar but the software it's recommending is WebEx, which should be run in windows. Is there an alternative for ubuntu?
[04:27] <b0nd> i am running feisty
[04:27] <greyfrog> daniele_982, thats fine... that could just mean that the nv driver doesn't work for your card
[04:27] <GeekMaster1> I just want to delete every folder in /var/lib/vmware-server/
[04:27] <Lacrymology> excuse me.. how do I change the default windows manager?
[04:27] <daniele_982> greyfrog: so i install the closed driver?
[04:28] <soundray> GeekMaster1: the problem is with the spaces and braces in the directory names.
[04:28] <defrysk> Lacrymology, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:28] <soundray> GeekMaster1: easiest way is to use Tab for name completion:
[04:28] <greyfrog> daniele_982, you might need to... follow the directions at the link ubotu is about to send you...
[04:28] <sholden> Hi, I just installed Beryl on Ubuntu Feisty using the steps provided on the wiki.  Beryl installs, and the effects seem to be working, but Emerald is not decorating the windows.  There is no title bar on any windows or buttons.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:28] <soundray> GeekMaster1: enter 'sudo rm -rf ./var/lib/vmware-server/Virtual' and hit Tab to let it complete, then type more letters and Tab again to complete the rest.
[04:29] <linkmark> in what /dev device can i find my tvcard ?
[04:29] <abadtooth> eljak: that command you gave me gave this error E: Invalid operation emerald
[04:29] <GeekMaster1> soundray: thank you
[04:29] <Lacrymology> defrysk: that just waited for a second, and then gave me prompt back
[04:29] <soundray> GeekMaster1: alternatively, escape the spaces and (s by preceding them with a \
[04:29] <jramsey>  is there a cmd to display all running daemons?
[04:29] <Lacrymology> defrysk: (i did kdm instead of gdm, I'm running kde)
[04:30] <defrysk> Lacrymology, also you can select in kdm and in gdm your wanted dm, undes sessions or options, just have a look
[04:30] <Blackgoth> jramsey: ps
[04:30] <Pici> jramsey: ps ax
[04:30] <b0nd> hi everyone, i have downloaded a webinar but the software it's recommending is WebEx, which should be run in windows. Is there an alternative for ubuntu?
[04:30] <bkingx> Greetings, I want to build my first program.  It is a simple device monitor by ping.  I want a web front-end, mysql backend.  The other apps out there are just too complicated for this simple task.  Where should I start?
[04:30] <jramsey> Blackgoth, ty
[04:30] <defrysk> under#
[04:30] <jramsey> Pici, ""
[04:30] <Lacrymology> defrysk: ok, I will
[04:30] <mat1980> daniele_982: maybe this link is useful (in italian, but you are italian) http://linuxiano.wordpress.com/tag/schede-video/nvidia/
[04:30] <a7p> bkingx, are you capable to program ...
[04:31] <a7p> which languages are you trained in?
[04:31] <GeekMaster1> soundray: I'm sure you can tell by now that I am a newb. I was wondering how to find out how much space I have on my disk after this is done deleting.
[04:31] <NekoKun> tck: how to make ubuntu mount ntfs partitions? It gives partition type error...
[04:31] <bkingx> a7p: I've done some scripting in the past for windows.  ASP, VB.
[04:31] <soundray> GeekMaster1: 'df -h'
[04:31] <eljak> abadtooth, sorry i missed something "install",  sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes
[04:31] <GeekMaster1> Thank you soundray
[04:31] <tck>  NekoKun man mount ;)
[04:32] <soundray> !ntfs > NekoKun, please read ubotu's private message
[04:32] <tck> NekoKun, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:32] <JimC> anyone here successfully used pptp-client on dapper ? (particulary together with relakks pptp service or other pptp servers designed for windows clients using encryption and chap v2)
[04:32] <a7p> bkingx, mmm ... take a look at python + some webframework ...
[04:32] <NekoKun> tck: Ok, let me rephrase, do I need any special package?
[04:32] <bjwebb> hello, can someone help me, ctrl + alt + f1 won't work :(
[04:32] <soundray> bjwebb: what are you trying to do?
[04:32] <tck> NekoKun, no everything is in your bash shell, check the ubuntu guide, covers lots of things :)
[04:32] <Lacrymology> wonderful, I'm using fluxbox now
[04:32] <bjwebb> get to to one of the virtual terminals
[04:32] <bkingx> a7p: python....OK.  I am trying this as a first attempt to create something very simple.
[04:33] <bjwebb> i think ive mucked it up, but i don't know how to get them back
[04:33] <jramsey> do you normally have to manually start portmap for nfs to work?
[04:33] <soundray> NekoKun: only if you want to mount writable
[04:33] <bkingx> And it satisfies a need.
[04:33] <bjwebb> it might be keyboard related because the function keys for beryl (f8 + f9) don't work either
[04:33] <tck> NekoKun, you can also use cfdisk to view partitions - easier on the eyes
[04:33] <a7p> bkingx, python's very common in ubuntu ... so learning it is a good idea.
[04:33] <a7p> so off
[04:33] <soundray> bjwebb: are you in gnome now?
[04:34] <bjwebb> no its kubuntu actually
[04:34] <soundray> bjwebb: open a konsole window and type 'sudo chvt 1'
[04:34] <Syrra> Could anyone here help me with grub?
[04:34] <abadtooth> eljak:   "install",  sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themesbash: install,: command not found :(
[04:34] <Blackgoth> nope Syrra
[04:34] <cobra306> where can i get the radeon open source driver ?
[04:34] <soundray> bjwebb: if F keys don't work in console either, you can go back with 'sudo chvt 7'
[04:34] <Blackgoth> maybe if you would tell us what the problem is, yes
[04:34] <tyler_d> where are my iptables located at? need to add some schtuff...?
[04:35] <tubaralho> hi there
[04:35] <soundray> tyler_d: use a frontend, like firestarter
[04:35] <ferronica> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libawn-svn_0.1.2-svn204_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libawn.so.0.0.1', which is also in package avant-window-navigator-svn
[04:35] <tubaralho> can some one tell me somethign
[04:35] <tyler_d> soundray: pardon? for editing?
[04:35] <soundray> tyler_d: yes
[04:35] <newuser> hi i have problem enable the desktop effects
[04:35] <ProN00b> does anyone know of a program to solve equation systems ?
[04:35] <newuser>  it said composite extension isis not available
[04:36] <tyler_d> soundray: wow, all I'm looking to do (end result) is a vpn host....
[04:36] <SmellyOrc> according to grub, grub is now installed... lets try
[04:36] <SmellyOrc> *hopes*
[04:36] <sholden> Hi everyone, I am on a fresh Feisty install on a HP Pavilion zd7000.  After running the computer for a couple minutes, I keep getting Critical Temperature errors and the computer powers down.  I don't think that the computer is actually overheating, but I dont know where to fix this setting.  Does anyone know how I can stop it from doing this?
[04:37] <bjwebb> soundray: yes that worked
[04:37] <bjwebb> and the keys worked in the terminal
[04:37] <Hidden1341>   ChanServ Duiv`game Duiv`Pc GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ QIB Quis|afk Rprp` Tim Wesleysld
[04:37] <albert> am i able to play my playstation games on the pc using a usb-joypad?
[04:37] <bjwebb> i did try chvt before, but didn't know it needed to be root
[04:37] <soundray> bjwebb: your F-keys will probably work again when you restart X
[04:37] <bjwebb> so is something configured wrong for my keyboard?
[04:37] <tck> newuser, did you update your video driver recently?
[04:37] <bjwebb> ive tried restarting X
[04:37] <abadtooth> eljak:  stupid me... I figured that command out... sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes
[04:37] <abadtooth> Reading package lists... Done
[04:37] <abadtooth> Building dependency tree
[04:37] <abadtooth> Reading state information... Done
[04:37] <abadtooth> emerald is already the newest version.
[04:37] <abadtooth> emerald set to manual installed.
[04:37] <mat1980> sholden: check the temperature with "acpi -V".
[04:37] <abadtooth> emerald-themes is already the newest version.
[04:37] <bjwebb> ive messed with a few of the config files
[04:37] <abadtooth> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:37] <Pici> !paste | abadtooth
[04:37] <ubotu> abadtooth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <soundray> bjwebb: at least that's my experience with this kind of fault
[04:38] <tck> newuser, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=436110 this may help
[04:38] <bjwebb> had to do one from scratch
[04:38] <bjwebb> so i think ive changed something
[04:38] <newuser> tck, yes form restricted drivers manager
[04:38] <Milkshake> Bonjour tout le monde
[04:38] <Pici> !fr | Milkshake
[04:38] <ubotu> Milkshake: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:38] <Milkshake> sry wrong channel
[04:38] <abadtooth> Pici: ?
[04:38] <Milkshake> fresh install
[04:38] <Pici> abadtooth: Dont flood the channel with pastes.
[04:38] <sholden> 58.0 C
[04:39] <soundray> tyler_d: what's the connection between setting up a vpn host and modifying iptables?
[04:39] <sholden> It hasnt happened yet this morning, so maybe I'm in the clear
[04:39] <sholden> but it happened a couple times last night.
[04:39] <abadtooth> Pici:  I'm not... just needed to show it to another guy..
[04:39] <mat1980> sholden: is not very cool
[04:39] <mat1980> sholden: what cpu do you have?
[04:39] <eljak> abadtooth, so you have it installed look for a menu item for it under system, settings or something like that
[04:40] <Pici> !coc > Blackgoth
[04:40] <abadtooth> eljak:  ok
[04:40] <sholden> P4 2.8ghz
[04:41] <ProN00b> does anyone know of a program to solve equation systems ?
[04:41] <JimC> anyone here successfully used pptp-client on dapper ? (particulary together with relakks pptp service or other pptp servers designed for windows clients using encryption and chap v2) - i got it connected, but after manually adding routing the pptpclient gives me 1-3 errors/s telling me unsupported protocoll XXXX - as if it isnt understanding my ip packets at all, any hints? also it should setup routing automatically but isnt, gives me ARP proxy error and 'defa
[04:41] <Frogzoo> sholden: 60C is pushing maximum spec - check the fan for mounting & dust
[04:41] <yondie> ProN00b, it depends on wat language u r goin to use
[04:41] <abadtooth> eljak: um... where is system setting on ubuntu?...
[04:41] <yondie> ProN00b, complicated math... better use octave or scilab
[04:42] <ProN00b> yondie, no, nothing complicated
[04:42] <mat1980> sholden: then no cpu frequency scaling ability...
[04:42] <Blackgoth> Pici: why?
[04:42] <yondie> ma1980: dpkg-reconfigure cpu-freqq
[04:42] <Pici> ProN00b: try out maxima
[04:42] <sholden> Frogzoo: this is a laptop...
[04:42] <eljak> abadtooth, what desktop manager are you using kde, gnome, xfce?
[04:42] <tck> ProN00b, go to System > Admin > Synaptic and search for 'equations'
[04:43] <Pici> Blackgoth: your reply to Syrra about grub.
[04:43] <abadtooth> eljak: gnome
[04:43] <Imitation> eljak:kde
[04:43] <tck> ProN00b, 'mathomatic' is probably what you are looking for
[04:43] <lexus_nexis> hi guys
[04:43] <mat1980> yondie: sholden has cpu temperature problem with a p4. I guess there is no way to change cpu frequency on that cpu.
[04:43] <b0nd> hi everyone, i have downloaded a webinar but the software it's recommending is WebEx, which should be run in windows. Is there an alternative for ubuntu?
[04:44] <yondie> ma1980: yeah unfortunely nope
[04:44] <lexus_nexis> can anyone tell me which ports are open on a ubuntu system
[04:44] <yondie> lexus_nexis
[04:44] <soundray> lexus_nexis: none for incoming traffic
[04:44] <yondie> lexus_nexis,  netstat -na |grep Listen
[04:44] <tck> lexus_nexis, sudo apt-get install nmap , then run nmap localhost
[04:44] <lexus_nexis> I'm trying to setup gnump3d and it keeps telling me that port 8080 is already in use
[04:44] <tck> or do what yondie suggested ;)
[04:45] <mat1980> sholden: does the fan run?
[04:45] <tck> although that wont show everything
[04:45] <yondie> true
[04:45] <yondie> tck: but i prefer nestat rather then nmap
[04:45] <soundray> lexus_nexis: listen to the netstat/nmap suggestions, or check whether you've installed a caching proxy
[04:45] <lexus_nexis> gnumped was by default sset to port 8888 but I changed it to 8080 and it worked the first time I ran it
[04:46] <tck> yondie, well that for example did not show my open cupsys daemon
[04:46] <soundray> lexus_nexis: it probably didn't terminate cleanly after the first run then.
[04:46] <lexus_nexis> what weird is that I was able to run gnump3d already op port 8080
[04:46] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: ps ax | grep gnump3
[04:46] <abadtooth> eljak:   I use Gnome metacity
[04:46] <lexus_nexis> ok
[04:47] <lexus_nexis>  5310 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/gnump3d
[04:47] <lexus_nexis>  5926 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep gnump3
[04:47] <lexus_nexis> what does that mean ?
[04:47] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: well the first line shows that you have a gnump3d running already
[04:47] <lexus_nexis> sorry I'm new to working with networking, streaming etc...
[04:47] <soundray> lexus_nexis: that it's still running under the process id 5310
[04:47] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: you can only have one server listening to a given port
[04:48] <Bit_mess> in /proc I have a 518MB file named kcore. What is it? can I delete it?
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> oh
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> right!
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> thanks
[04:48] <victor_> buenas tardes
[04:48] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: think about it - what would happen if you had two different web servers listening to port 80?
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> I had a feeling...
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> ok
[04:48] <soundray> Bit_mess: no. Don't mess with /proc -- things in there don't take up real space
[04:48] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: madness and chaos
[04:48] <H3g3m0n> Bit_mess:  proc isn't a real file system
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> so I just do killall right?
[04:48] <yondie> urm
[04:48] <gordonjcp> Bit_mess: google for /proc/kcore
[04:49] <Don64> !es | victor_
[04:49] <ubotu> victor_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:49] <soundray> lexus_nexis: probably easiest to 'kill 5310' in this case
[04:49] <Bit_mess> THanks!
[04:49] <lexus_nexis> oh
[04:49] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: what would be better is kill <process id>
[04:49] <gordonjcp> lexus_nexis: as soundray says
[04:49] <lexus_nexis> ok
[04:49] <yondie> proc/kcore is the next name for memory
[04:49] <jramsey> what's the cmd to display the ip address assigned to my nic?
[04:49] <yondie> lol
[04:49] <lexus_nexis> thanks
[04:49] <soundray> lexus_nexis: then recheck and if it hasn't worked, 'kill -9 5310'
[04:49] <yondie> jramsey: ifconfig
[04:49] <jramsey> yondie, ty
[04:49] <gordonjcp> Bit_mess: deleting /proc/kcore would give interesting results, probably best not explored
[04:50] <yondie> lexus_nexis,  or u can also use kill -KILL prosess
[04:50] <tck> yondie,  netstat -pa is a good one
[04:50] <xayon> :S sometimes, when I close a tab in firefox X server crashes :S
[04:50] <tck> more detail but nice output :)
[04:50] <gordonjcp> xayon: shouldn't happen...
[04:50] <eljak> abadtooth, go to "System" menu link on your top gnome panel and goto Preferences and select Emerald Theme
[04:50] <xayon> gordonjcp, I know, that's the thing XD
[04:50] <abadtooth> /#beryl
[04:50] <gordonjcp> xayon: I haven't come across that
[04:51] <xayon> havent read the logs yet... Wait a moment
[04:51] <nickLessS> .
[04:51] <abadtooth> how do I change channels?
[04:51] <Pici> abadtooth: /join #channel
[04:51] <lexus_nexis> yay it works!
[04:52] <abadtooth> Pici: thanks!
[04:52] <lexus_nexis> thanks for all your help !
[04:53] <xayon> this is the most strange think I could see in Xorg.0.log  -> (It's only two lines so i paste it here) (EE) end of block range 0xefffffff < begin 0xf0000000 and ...(EE) RADEON(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
[04:54] <mat1980> !paste | xayon
[04:54] <ubotu> xayon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <xayon> mat1980, it wasn't a large text
[04:54] <pha|con> does anyone know if there are any features used in the generic kernel that are not enabled that could be beneficial enough warrant compiling your own?
[04:55] <soundray> xayon: don't make this into an offtopic discussion please
[04:55] <_Andrew_> mat1980: Don't abuse the bot please
[04:55] <pha|con> :P
[04:55] <pha|con> sorry, wrong window
[04:55] <yondie> pha|con, well maybe the tickless features
[04:55] <b0nd> hi everyone, i have downloaded a webinar but the software it's recommending is WebEx, which should be run in windows. Is there an alternative for ubuntu?
[04:55] <mat1980> xayon: you're right, but maybe you didn't know about pastebin, that could be useful
[04:55] <soundray> pha|con: considering how subjective "beneficial" is, your question doesn't make much sense
[04:56] <mat1980> _Andrew_: sorry, I didn't want to.
[04:56] <xayon> mat1980, I knew but, don't mind, like soundray said, stop the off-topic conversation
[04:56] <ferronica> from here i can download screensaver for ubuntu 7.04?
[04:56] <pha|con> soundray: good point...specifically tv tuner support, webcam support, MB chipset support, and the like
[04:56] <ferronica> from where i can download screensaver for ubuntu 7.04?
[04:56] <pha|con> also, what is 'tickless'
[04:56] <pha|con> ?
[04:57] <yondie> pha|con, http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750
[04:57] <newuser> help... how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <yondie> pha|con: features to save yer letricity bill
[04:58] <soundray> pha|con: TV tuner modules I would get from linuxtv directly. MB chipset support I've never come across the need. Webcam -- probably a similar case to TV, but I've only ever needed spca5xx, which is fine in the stock kernel.
[04:58] <Shaftino> newuser, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <soundray> newuser: what are you trying to achieve?
[04:58] <xayon> anyone knows if that errors are something? Have only found them twice in all the logs but... is the only clue I've got, I also have DRI enabled in a non-dri compatible screen but It says it disables it automatically
[04:58] <yondie> Shaftino, u should educate the user using vi
[04:59] <soundray> newuser: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is more newbie-safe (if less powerful)
[04:59] <pha|con> soundray and yondie:  thanks.  i roll my own for slackware, since it comes 2.4 stock, and most of that stuff isn't enabled or built in.  even ext3 and jbd are disabled by default, so was just curious.
[04:59] <enry> help i found a bug and i don't understand the quick fix
[04:59] <soundray> enry: elaborate
[04:59] <enry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/29789
[05:00] <soundray> yondie: no, (s)he shouldn't.
[05:00] <yondie> pha|con, still on slacky? well dat`s but well u miss the features on 2.6 stuff
[05:00] <enry> the audio of my tv card is not working
[05:00] <newuser> soundray, i wana change the composite.. because i cannot enable my desktop effects
[05:00] <enry> for a conflict beetween two modules
[05:00] <soundray> newuser: okay, Shaftino's suggestion then.
[05:00] <enry> there is a fix using blacklist but it's difficult
[05:01] <enry> anyone can help me?
[05:01] <xayon> enry what tv card do you hace
[05:01] <Frogzoo> is there a text terminal that does anti-aliased fonts ??
[05:01] <modplug> so where's the compiz-fusion channel?
[05:01] <enry> a chipst bt878
[05:01] <xayon> s/hace/have
[05:01] <soundray> Frogzoo: a text terminal? gnome-terminal does...
[05:01] <pha|con> yondie:  yeah, i use slack on my main rig, but i roll my own 2.6 for it so i can use HAL, etc.
[05:01] <enry> xayon, it's an empire enjoy tv
[05:01] <newuser> shaftino, it didn't work
[05:02] <newuser> nothing happen
[05:02] <Frogzoo> soundray: kk, maybe it is antialiased after all
[05:02] <xayon> enry, don't know, but when i installed my tv card (but i never got sound...) i found a very usefull tutorial
[05:02] <Shaftino> newuser, strange... what command did you use?
[05:02] <xayon> what are the modules in conflict?
[05:02] <newuser> alt + f2
[05:02] <pha|con> yondie: 2.6 also lets me install dropline gnome, since slack dropped gnome from it's last release.  can't abide by KDE.
[05:03] <phil_> Hi all, I currently have 5 HDDs, 3 case fans and the mobo connected to a 500W generic PSU. This is in a NAS-style fileserver and it's on 24/7. Can anybody tell me if this load is acceptable or should I upgrade my PSU?
[05:03] <enry> xarann,  i found a bug review about my tv card
[05:03] <enry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/29789
[05:03] <enry> read it
[05:03] <soundray> newuser: with alt+f2, you should do 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' instead.
[05:03] <yondie> pha|con, i never really fans of kde in the first place
[05:03] <enry> xayon, i'm not an expert it's better if you read the link
[05:04] <u> Hi, i'm searching for good docs about managing devices/drivers in linux! (noob .)
[05:04] <pha|con> yondie: me either, it just seems to crowded.
[05:04] <newuser> shaftino, thanks
[05:04] <phil_> btw: it's running ubuntu server edition, I'm not just asking in here randomly
[05:04] <xayon> enry, you won't believe me... It's the same problem as I had, but i never resolved it :(
[05:04] <yondie> pha|con,  some people thinks it`s pretty, but i dislike becoz of the qt library which is propitery
[05:05] <xayon> oh, no... it's not the same... Does your tv card have audio output?
[05:05] <rabidweezle> gnome is pretty
[05:05] <enry> yes
[05:05] <enry> it has it
[05:05] <pha|con> yondie: heh.  if i want pretty i'll install beryl.  sadly, we'll probably always have to deal with something being proprietary.  i'm just concerened with how easy something is for me to use.
[05:05] <soundray> u: it's usually best to search for subsystem-specific docs, unlike on Windows or Mac.
[05:06] <enry> xayon, yes it has it
[05:06] <yondie> pha|con, well bery compiz is nice to attract lot of hot chicks
[05:06] <rabidweezle> I got rednecks using gnome here in kentucky...
[05:06] <rabidweezle> it's gotta be easy
[05:06] <yondie> pha|con: but imho  i hate it hahaha
[05:06] <alen> hi everyone
[05:06] <alen> could somebody help me with something?
[05:06] <alen> pls?
[05:06] <Pici> !ask | alen
[05:06] <rabidweezle> don't ask to ask
[05:06] <ubotu> alen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <yondie> alen: it`s better if u just ask
[05:06] <alen> hehe
[05:06] <enry> xayon,  any suggestions?
[05:06] <alen> ok
[05:07] <tomd123> /tomd123
[05:07] <Pici> phil_: Try ##hardware, Its not really an ubuntu related question :)
[05:07] <soundray> alen: keep it on one line if you can, please
[05:07] <alen> I've made an uprage to the new Ubuntu, and I see there's a thing called "Desktop effects" which, unfortunately, doesn't work
[05:07] <alen> so, what do I do?
[05:07] <yondie> alen: lspci owh wait tell me wat is yer grapik kard?
[05:07] <phil_> ok, cheers Pici : )
[05:07] <xayon> enry, So it isn't the same fail, I think yours may have a easyer solution Have you tried the trick from that page? ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/29789/comments/6 )
[05:08] <rabidweezle> don't use it alen, try out beryl if you want effects
[05:08] <alen> ATI Radeon XPress 1100
[05:08] <soundray> alen: by far the easiest is to get by without it. They don't actually help.
[05:08] <yondie> rabidweezle, if desktop effect didn`t work how do u expect beryl to work in the first place?
[05:08] <enry> xayon,  yes it didn't work
[05:08] <rabidweezle> it don't work on mine, but beryl does :P
[05:08] <alen> it says "The Composite extension isn't available"
[05:09] <yondie> alen: it means u to use a compositing manager
[05:09] <yondie> alen: for ubuntu  u need xgl
[05:09] <yondie> eh
[05:09] <yondie> my bad
[05:09] <enry> xayon,  the strange thing is that the video is perfect but the audio is completely mute
[05:09] <yondie> alen: for ATI u need xgl
[05:09] <lexus_nexis> hi me again
[05:09] <xayon> enry, :/ maybe the only solution there is actually is downgrading the kernel to 2.6.16
[05:09] <soundray> lexus_nexis: oh no
[05:09] <alen> where do I get it?
[05:10] <rabidweezle> nevermind, it does work lol
[05:10] <soundray> lexus_nexis: :) scnr
[05:10] <xayon> enry, look: it seems it's 2.6.17 and higher kernel's fault
[05:10] <babik> does anybody have experience with SSH connection timeouts? The settings I have put in the sshd_config ClientAliveInterval & ClientAliveCountMax are not working. All SSH connections to the server have do not  automatically close after the set period?
[05:10] <uberspaced> documentation on the correct way to build packages for cpan modules?
[05:10] <enry> xarann,  also in debian etch the same problem
[05:10] <soundray> babik: did you restart sshd after making the changes?
[05:10] <babik> yes
[05:10] <xayon> there is a link in the page you lend me that points to kernel bugzilla:http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7109http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7109
[05:11] <ubuntuEdgy> can i use vmware even thou i install xp before i installed ubuntu ?
[05:11] <xayon> ups, I pasted it twice :D
[05:11] <lexus_nexis> I am able to start gnump3d now but what I would like to know is how I can connect to the computer running gnump3d with my laptop thats running windoze
[05:11] <alen> I've searched for 'xgl' in Synaptic Package Manager
[05:11] <soundray> babik: how did you test?
[05:11] <alen> should I install gnome-compiz-manager ?
[05:12] <adnix> no
[05:12] <lexus_nexis> alen do you want o run compiz
[05:12] <soundray> lexus_nexis: can you ping ubuntu from windows?
[05:12] <lexus_nexis> im sorry
[05:12] <lexus_nexis> how can I do that ?
[05:12] <babik> restarted SSH on the server, opened up a SSH connection and left this terminal open....I came back to the terminal hours later and the connection was still alive
[05:13] <rabidweezle> lexus_nexis, do an upconfig in ubuntu then ping that ip in windows....
[05:13] <rabidweezle> ipconfig*
[05:13] <soundray> babik: I think you are mistaking 'alive' for 'active'. If you shut down the client, the server will drop the connection.
[05:13] <rabidweezle> or is it ifconfig?
[05:13] <rabidweezle> lol
[05:13] <xayon> rabidweezle, if if :)
[05:13] <lexus_nexis> I have a wireless card in my comp and I created a wireless network and connected the windows computer to it
[05:13] <rabidweezle> that's right
[05:14] <lexus_nexis> ok
[05:14] <lexus_nexis> rabid
[05:14] <lexus_nexis> ill try
[05:14] <soundray> babik: consider using autolog or timeoutd for the effect you want.
[05:14] <rabidweezle> I'm wakin up
[05:15] <modplug_> when i enable beryl or compiz i loose all my window decoration
[05:15] <rabidweezle> lol
[05:15] <brum> nnn
[05:15] <babik> ClientAliveInterval 30 ClientAliveCountMax 3 is the settings in the sshd_config file. I assumed when I opened up a new connection ie shut down the client and open a new one, if after 90 seconds of inactivity from the client the connection would timeout? ie the client would lose connection. this hasn't happened.
[05:15] <rabidweezle> modplug, there are some howto's in the #ubuntu-effects channel in the topic you can use
[05:15] <Pelo> modplug,  you need to use beryl or compiz theme manager,   ask in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[05:15] <soundray> lexus_nexis: can you ping ubuntu from windows?
[05:15] <pha|con> babik: do you have TCPKeepAlive disabled in your ssh config?
[05:16] <babik> KeepAlive is set to yes, I assume this is the same?
[05:16] <pha|con> babik: also, some clients keep the connection alive
[05:16] <pha|con> babik: that should say no if you want it to drop an inactive connection after a period of time
[05:16] <mike3_> Hey guys, approxmiately how long will it take to get a mythtv box up on ubuntu. I have a 845g chipset intel, happauage pvr 150 and a mce usb that uses the lirc_mceusb2 module. It's a intel 2.4 ghz.
[05:16] <mike3_> Just a approx time
[05:16] <mike3_> ?
[05:16] <babik> ok great, I'll try that, thanks.
[05:17] <pha|con> np
[05:17] <digitalbc> im trying to set up dual monitors on an intel card, is there a way i can tell before i mess with xorg.conf which monitor is primary?
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> rabid: got this
[05:17] <dyrne> mike3_: look at freevo as well but generally myth is a better option once configured. id say allocate about 20 hrs but it might just take 15 min
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> from pinging
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> 64 bytes from 66.249.70.71: icmp_seq=18 ttl=47 time=98.6 ms
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> 64 bytes from 66.249.70.71: icmp_seq=19 ttl=47 time=98.6 ms
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> 64 bytes from 66.249.70.71: icmp_seq=20 ttl=47 time=98.5 ms
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> 64 bytes from 66.249.70.71: icmp_seq=21 ttl=47 time=98.3 ms
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> 64 bytes from 66.249.70.71: icmp_seq=22 ttl=47 time=98.3 ms
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> part of it anyway
[05:17] <rabidweezle> that means it's working
[05:17] <lexus_nexis> sweet
[05:18] <lexus_nexis> now what
[05:18] <lexus_nexis> ?
[05:18] <dyrne> mike3_: you wont have an issue with the card just getting used to the myth setup
[05:18] <erUSUL> !paste | lexus_nexis
[05:18] <ubotu> lexus_nexis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <mike3_> dyrne,I've this computer up twice on a gentoo box.
[05:18] <rabidweezle> now what?
[05:18] <soundray> mike3_: it's impossible to predict. If you don't hit any problems, you could be up in an hour or less. But chances are you will hit snags along the way.
[05:18] <rabidweezle> lol
[05:18] <lexus_nexis> sorry
[05:18] <lexus_nexis> sorry for pasting
[05:18] <soundray> lexus_nexis: pointless to flood the channel with five nearly equal responses.
[05:18] <mike3_> all equip is supported under linux.
[05:18] <aza> please, name...brazilian chat?
[05:18] <erUSUL> !br
[05:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:19] <mike3_> I'm just wondering if all the intel modules and stuff are built already into the kernel.
[05:19] <soundray> lexus_nexis: try opening http://66.249.70.71:8080 with some Windows program.
[05:19] <lexus_nexis> i did
[05:19] <lexus_nexis> with firefox
[05:20] <lexus_nexis> mabe I can open the stream with vlc
[05:21] <natbet> I just created a reiserfs drive, but when I added it to /etc/fstab and rebooted my computer it won't let me write to it, I have it set to use defaults, any ideas on what to change?
[05:21] <lexus_nexis> permissions
[05:22] <natbet> do I change that in the fstab?
[05:22] <bartzitz> hello, i have a problem with installing Feisty with PXE. i'm serving contents of the feisty cd image with web server, and in the logs i see it tries to fetch /feisty/dists/feisty/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz instead of /feisty/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz, why the /debian-installer/ part is inserted and how to get rid of it?
[05:22] <soundray> natbet: no, let's check what's wrong first.
[05:22] <neverblue> ok, I cannot boot my system, I get 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[05:22] <soundray> natbet: is it mounted readonly? The last line of output from 'mount' should tell you
[05:23] <neverblue> I have used a Live CD to access that f/s and I am looking at my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:23] <juan278> whats the command to see whats pluged into com prots
[05:23] <natbet> soundray: how do I get output from mount? -v?
[05:23] <gerro> digitalbc: use the ls commands such as lshw lsusb and try checking dmesg you can grep around for information pertaining to your monitor with the | pipe and grep
[05:23] <soundray> natbet: no parameters
[05:24] <natbet> /dev/hda4 on /media/xtra type reiserfs (rw)
[05:24] <soundray> natbet: good, it's rw (read write)
[05:24] <bartzitz> any PXE experts here?
[05:25] <natbet> I did do a chmod 777 on the folder I have it mounted to (/media/xtra) and I can write to it now, is it possible that that's all it was or is that just a temporary fix?
[05:25] <pha|con> neverblue: has the partition table changed on the disk, in other words, if you've added/removed anything what once was /dev/hda could now be /dev/hdb and that change needs to be reflected in grub so it can find the kernel to boot
[05:25] <neverblue> booting issues, anyone willing to help?
[05:25] <soundray> natbet: this should fix it permanently, but it's not a clean solution
[05:25] <Ruiming> who has installed Opensuse?
[05:25] <OConnor> wow
[05:25] <neverblue> hey pha|con back at it again :)
[05:25] <Ruiming> tell me ,please?
[05:25] <soundray> neverblue: chroot to your installation and reinstall the kernel package
[05:25] <mezziah> Ruiming: i guess most people here are using ubuntu
[05:26] <jramsey> i see where rpcinfo quota is "supposed" to show which rpc daemons are connected to rpc but the quota option is invalid on my ubuntu; any ideas????
[05:26] <erUSUL> Ruiming: none here i suspect we all have installed Ubuntu hence the name of the channell ;P
[05:26] <natbet> soundray: I didn't think it was, what would be a clean solution?
[05:26] <pha|con> neverblue: it drives away the boredom/monotony of "work"
[05:26] <mezziah> Ruiming: you can ask your question tho, let's see if/how we can help you
[05:26] <bartzitz> hello, i have a problem with installing Feisty with PXE. i'm serving contents of the feisty cd image with web server, and in the logs i see it tries to fetch /feisty/dists/feisty/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz instead of /feisty/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz, why the /debian-installer/ part is inserted and how to get rid of it?
[05:26] <neverblue> agreed :)
[05:27] <neverblue> pha|con, where do I confirm that my menu.lst is accurate with my f/s ?
[05:27] <neverblue> fdisk -l ?
[05:27] <tomd123> anyone know when ubuntu 7.1 is going to come out?
[05:27] <soundray> natbet: making a directory inside the reiserfs, and changing ownership to that so a user or group of your choice has write access (rather than just blindly everyone)
[05:27] <OConnor> Hello, I am installing Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty, but I do not know what to do with the HD (swap, /, root?)
[05:27] <mezziah> tomd123: most likely in october since the 10 in 7.10 stands for the month
[05:27] <Pici> tomd123: If all goes as planned, October
[05:27] <erUSUL> tomd123: 7<>2007 || 10<>October
[05:27] <Pici> tomd123: 2007.10
[05:27] <soundray> OConnor: single OS or dual boot?
[05:27] <pha|con> neverblue: fdisk -l should tell you where the disk is mounting to, then you just make sure that grub points to that device, and make sure that it's pointing to the right partition as well...it shoul dbe the one marked as being bootable by fdisk
[05:27] <OConnor> single os soundray
[05:27] <Ruiming> I find Opensuse  too hard for me
[05:28] <tomd123> mezziah, wow ty, i didn't notice that all this time :P
[05:28] <neverblue> but since I am using a Live CD?
[05:28] <mezziah> tomd123: ur welcome.. now you do :)
[05:28] <soundray> OConnor: either follow the guided partitioning (straightforward) or setup a 5 to 15GB / , swap=RAM+10% and leave the rest to /home
[05:28] <pha|con> neverblue: as long as you don't change any jumpers or anything the hard drive should always be assigned the same
[05:29] <soundray> OConnor: assuming your machine is mostly desktop and you have plenty of hard disk.
[05:29] <Ruiming> so i want to know more about Ubuntu
[05:29] <OConnor> soundray: I going to try. mostly desktop indeed and 250GB
[05:29] <pha|con> neverblue: so if your bootable partition is the 1st partition of the master drive it would be /dev/hda1
[05:29] <mezziah> Ruiming: did you already try inserting the ubuntu live cd and playing around with it?
[05:29] <pha|con> neverblue: or /dev/sda1 if you're using SATA
[05:30] <juan278> pha|con: thats not true tho kernel updates have been renaming my drivers recently, hopefully hell be ok tho
[05:30] <neverblue> i know what partition it is
[05:30] <soundray> OConnor: in this case, I would leave some space unpartitioned for later use
[05:30] <neverblue> just dont know what to match menu.lst with
[05:30] <OConnor> like? 20gb?
[05:30] <pha|con> menu.lst should match whatever fdisk says your bootable partition is
[05:30] <OConnor> i will soundray / thx sofar,
[05:31] <eddie> does anyone here know how to have multiple backgrounds on ubuntu ( Using nvidia and multiple monitors )?
[05:31] <neverblue> match where?
[05:31] <pha|con> juan278: renaming your drivers?
[05:31] <neverblue> menu.lst is big :)
[05:31] <natbet> soundray: ok, I went in through super user nautilus and changed it, how would I have changed it from the command line?
[05:31] <pha|con> neverblue: hold on a sec
[05:31] <Ruiming> i have install Ubuntu6.06,
[05:31] <neverblue> im gonna paste it
[05:31] <neverblue> brb
[05:31] <soundray> natbet: with the chmod and chown commands
[05:31] <juan278> *drivers my pata is now sda1
[05:32] <OConnor> 'nd now it does what it does all the time, it hangs on 5% setup, saying something about ext3-filesystem, soundray
[05:32] <eddie> Multiple backgrounds on multiple monitors anyone?
[05:32] <soundray> OConnor: can you elaborate?
[05:33] <pha|con> neverblue: okay, first of all, sorry for the confusion, i ws thinking in lilo terms.  second, edit the very first entry after ## End Default Options ##
[05:33] <Ruiming> but maybe Ubuntu7.04 is more wonderful
[05:33] <Ruiming> is it ?
[05:33] <neverblue> pastebin.ca/583946
[05:33] <Elliot_M> im having an issue with VLC player how can i reinstall in on ubuntu 7.04?
[05:34] <neverblue> my fdisk and then my menu.lst
[05:34] <Elliot_M> it doesent start up
[05:34] <neverblue> Elliot_M, consult the ubuntu guide
[05:34] <Elliot_M> what guide ?
[05:34] <natbet> Elliot_M: when you try to start it from command prompt, what error does it give?
[05:34] <neverblue> google it
[05:34] <Cycne> don't know
[05:34] <Elliot_M> no i installed it
[05:35] <Elliot_M> and it worked then i try to add a skin to it
[05:35] <neverblue> looks right, doesnt it pha|con ?
[05:35] <Elliot_M> and now it doesent work
[05:35] <mezziah> Elliot_M: 'sudo apt-get install vlc --reinstall'
[05:35] <mezziah> that's the command to reinstall the app
[05:35] <OConnor> soundray: i've got the dutch version, and I cannot translate, exept ext3-flesystem. but I can install the english version and see what it sais?
[05:35] <pha|con> neverblue: i'm assuming your /boot is on the 1st partition?
[05:35] <neverblue> yes
[05:35] <Elliot_M> k
[05:35] <soundray> Elliot_M: reinstalling won't help. Try 'rm -r ~/.vlc' first
[05:35] <ivanAlvarez> which program should i use to partition my disk?
[05:35] <xerophyte> /usr/bin/pgp -bash: /usr/bin/pgp: No such file or directory i have the pgp in the /usr/bin/ folder -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 579641 2007-06-22 11:28 /usr/bin/pgp does anybody know why does it complains it can not find it ?
[05:36] <reaper> can I run windows games on ubuntu?
[05:36] <mezziah> ivanAlvarez: gparted
[05:36] <neverblue> !gparted | ivanAlvarez
[05:36] <ubotu> ivanAlvarez: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:36] <Hacim07> quick question:how do I set permisions, mount points,etc for auto mount devices like say a usb card reader.
[05:36] <soundray> OConnor: give me the Dutch version, I'll cope ;)
[05:36] <_Andrew> Hey guys my hard drive messed up Ubuntu little for example open office and update manager won't open. Is there a way to reinstall these programs? apt-get works from the command line by the way
[05:36] <mezziah> reaper: basically no, but you can try installing them using wine
[05:36] <natbet> mezziah: just out of curiousity, how do you use the purge command (couldn't get rid of vmware-player a few weeks ago, was recommended to use purge instead of remove)
[05:36] <dyrne> reaper: there are free linux games. (some of them are good)
[05:36] <neverblue> pha|con want any other output?
[05:37] <pha|con> neverblue: can you paste the kernel panic again
[05:37] <mezziah> natbet: it would be 'apt-get remove <app> --purge'
[05:37] <OConnor> ext3-bestandssysteem met aanhechtpunt / wordt aangemaakt soundray
[05:37] <Elliot_M> the reinstallation worked thnx
[05:37] <neverblue> ok, I cannot boot my system, I get 'crc error kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[05:37] <natbet> mezziah: thanks
[05:37] <reaper> dyrne: thanks, I play one game quake 2 (for 9 years), some things for linux do not get updated, so I need wine
[05:37] <soundray> OConnor: this is fine. Just give it time, it might take up to half an hour.
[05:37] <reaper> does wine not work, or not work well
[05:37] <neverblue> looks like (hd0,0) is incorrect?
[05:37] <ubuntuEdgy> im try to ue vmware and it keeps saying no operating systems found ?
[05:37] <mezziah> reaper: not well for most games i'd say
[05:38] <neverblue> ubuntuEdgy, try #vmware?
[05:38] <ubuntuEdgy> thanks
[05:38] <mezziah> reaper: simply try it out, you can't do anything wrong
[05:38] <pha|con> hd0,0 should be correct if that's where the boot dir is
[05:38] <reaper> damn, I like linux, for now I use cygwin. good idea, is there a free vmware that works well
[05:38] <neverblue> right
[05:39] <pha|con> you're sure it's not on sda6?
[05:39] <erUSUL> !virtualbox | reaper
[05:39] <ubotu> reaper: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[05:39] <OConnor> soundray: i was already hoping that, i left it for 20min+ but it seemed to hang... keyboard capslock and scroll lock lights are blinking soundray
[05:39] <natbet> reaper: vmware-server
[05:39] <pha|con> and what's that extended partition?
[05:39] <neverblue> well, I didnt change any of it, I just did an update, linux-headers I think (required a restart),
[05:39] <reaper> vmware-server is free, and virtual box, nice, you guys have any luck with these
[05:39] <lexus_nexis> no luck with this stupid gnump3d
[05:39] <lexus_nexis> I cant get it to play on any other computer
[05:39] <pha|con> so it was working, then you updated linux-headers and it wouldn't reboot?
[05:39] <neverblue> maybe edit the menu.lst to try other partitions?
[05:40] <lexus_nexis> by
[05:40] <lexus_nexis> i mean bye
[05:40] <neverblue> i just mounted /dev/sda1, thats where my OS is stored
[05:40] <natbet> reaper: I run vmware-server almost daily, I haven't had any problems with it. It needs to be patched when you install it in ubuntu 7.04 but other than that it works fine
[05:40] <pha|con> you could try, but it also might be that drivers needed to mount the FS aren't being loaded
[05:41] <neverblue> can I do repairs from the LiveCD (update packages) to that system?
[05:41] <AusME> I am able to browse other windows shares but I'm having a heck of a time sharing my own. I've made my home directory writeable and browsable in /etc/samba/smb.conf but I still don't seem to be getting anywhere. Any recommendations?
[05:41] <Hacim07> _Andrew:Try sudo apt-get --reinstall install open-offices or something
[05:41] <ivanAlvarez> ok thanks
[05:41] <demian> hello
[05:41] <pha|con> like, if you're using ext3 and jbd, and you built them as modules in the kernel you can't boot the kernel cause them modules are on the disk and you can't mount hte disk...etc
[05:41] <_Andrew> Hacim07: ok thanks
[05:41] <pha|con> kind of a chicken or the egg type problem
[05:42] <demian> I've got two questions
[05:42] <neverblue> ugh
[05:42] <neverblue> so reformat?
[05:42] <pha|con> neverblue: i'm not sure...you can try using mkinitrd to load the drivers for you file system....
[05:42] <natbet> !ask | demian
[05:42] <ubotu> demian: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:43] <pha|con> i'm not sure how ubuntu uses initrd, tho.
[05:43] <demian> I don't want to anoy anyone by just blurting
[05:43] <demian> seems a bit rude
[05:43] <demian> but anyways
[05:43] <neverblue> demian, just ask, all this chit chat is rude :)
[05:43] <pha|con> demian: it saves everyone blurting out "can i ask a question?!"
[05:43] <natbet> demian: blurt away, if someone knows they will answer
[05:43] <Hacim07> What determines how and where usb drives are mounted?
[05:43] <demian> okee okee xuse me
[05:44] <neverblue> zzz
[05:44] <pha|con> neverblue: try reading up on mkinitrd for ubuntu
[05:44] <neverblue> yeah
[05:44] <mezziah> Mandorallen: hit 'mount'
[05:44] <neverblue> i am reading the man now
[05:44] <demian> I changed the mousebuttons in Feisty
[05:44] <demian> and now when I scroll up and down
[05:44] <demian> I go back and forth
[05:44] <neverblue> demian, maybe make it a one line question?
[05:44] <demian> in history :)
[05:44] <demian> yes
[05:45] <pha|con> neverblue: aside from that try a different partition, if you're not sure which one /boot is on.  also, in the future make a partition just for /home, so reinstalling will be a trivial matter if it comes down to it
[05:45] <natbet> demian: did you change it in xorg.conf?
[05:45] <nivekc1> how do i install beryl in feisty and is it worth it?
[05:45] <neverblue> pha|con, my extended is /home :)
[05:45] <demian> I need to know the button mapping for a 7 button mouse
[05:45] <neverblue> its my /etc and my DB I am worried about losing...
[05:45] <mezziah> !beryl
[05:45] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:46] <mezziah> hrm
[05:46] <natbet> demian: what kind of mouse it it? (brand, model number)
[05:46] <neverblue> demian, good luck, try google
[05:46] <mezziah> there has to be more information about that
[05:46] <demian> natbet: Logitec mx310
[05:46] <demian> I changed xorg.conf
[05:46] <demian> and installed IMwheel
[05:47] <Abhi> guys does ubuntu have vista look n feel desktop?
[05:47] <mezziah> Abhi: right out of the box no
[05:47] <pha|con> neverblue: if you have a seperate /home partition just back up the files you need to it and don't format it when you reinstall
[05:47] <neverblue> ubuntu has beryl abhi
[05:47] <neverblue> pha|con, yeah, just finding out how to get the DB
[05:48] <neverblue> i should be fine to just reformat
[05:48] <demian> following the unofficial guide on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Activate_side-mouse-buttons_in_FireFox
[05:48] <nivekc1> haha but i cant figure out how to get beryl and there doesnt seem to be anyone in the effects room
[05:48] <harkyman> greets -- google, etc. tells me that ubuntu 6 had support for belkin gigabit over usb f5d5055 adapter, but feisty does not seem to -- how can i check to be sure?
[05:49] <neverblue> nivekc1, read the 'ubunut guide'
[05:49] <mezziah> nivekc1: take a look at this website: http://www.beryl-project.org/
[05:49] <mezziah> nivekc1: if you have further questions, just ask us
[05:49] <erUSUL> !info medusa edgy
[05:49] <ubotu> Package medusa does not exist in edgy
[05:50] <natbet> demian: here's how it should be set up (this is set up for dapper but it *should* work the same in feisty) http://purplemoggy.blogspot.com/2006/04/logitech-mx310-ubuntu-dapper.html
[05:50] <demian> another one is this one: I installed windows on another drive, designed to I: now I want to add it to grub, but I can't find out what the drive nummer is
[05:50] <dyrne> harkyman: not the best answer but the first thing id do is a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org feisty belkin gigabit' or someting
[05:50] <nivekc1> so far i have that i need to ad the repository but i dont know what it is or what the command is
[05:50] <pha|con> neverblue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36573&page=2
[05:50] <demian> natbet: Thnx
[05:50] <pha|con> neverblue: look at the code on the 2nd post on that page and see if it works for you
[05:51] <mezziah> nivekc1: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[05:51] <pha|con> neverblue: of course, you'll need to change the file names, but ya know.... ;)
[05:51] <neverblue> yeah
[05:51] <neverblue> looking
[05:52] <nivekc1> cool got it thanks
[05:53] <Necropsique> hello
[05:53] <harkyman> dyrne: thanks. hits show no one getting it to work, but one person griping about false advertsigin of running 1Gb over a 480Mb interface. i'll probably have to use Dapper as i have no other hardware option
[05:54] <natbet> !grub | demian
[05:54] <ubotu> demian: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:55] <whooper_> hello... can anyone tell me if the latest ubuntu will install painlessly on an IBM T40 laptop?
[05:56] <Pici> whooper_: Mines running quite fine. I dont think I had to do anything special.
[05:56] <whooper_> Pici: cool, thanks!
[05:56] <demian> natbet: !grub | demian doesn't do anything in a terminal
[05:56] <demian> so what do you mean?
[05:57] <natbet> demian: try going to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:57] <eugm> wenas
[05:58] <demian> natbet: thnx again
[05:59] <natbet> demian: yup
[05:59] <sts> hello folks
[05:59] <sts> can anyone tell me how i can rescan for hotplug usb devices?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:00] <JimC> anyone here successfully used pptp-client on dapper ? (particulary together with relakks pptp service or other pptp servers designed for windows clients using encryption and chap v2) - i got it connected, but after manually adding routing the pptpclient gives me 1-3 errors/s telling me unsupported protocoll XXXX - as if it isnt understanding my ip packets at all, any hints? also it should setup routing automatically but isnt, gives me ARP proxy error and 'defa
[06:00] <sts> i plugged in my cam, and it lost the connection, after changing the batterly pack i wanted to download the images from the flash drive. so i plugged in my cam again but ubuntu wasn't automatically coming up with the dialog asking me to import any images stored on the camera.
[06:02] <[selfsearcher] > I tried the Live for AMD64 (Gutsy Alfa) but after the menu, my screen turns in "no signal" mode. No console (Alt+F2 doesn't work)
[06:02] <yondie> well it stil Alfa
[06:02] <Pici> [selfsearcher] : #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy issues/support
[06:02] <[selfsearcher] > yondie: ok but edgy gave me exactly the same crash
[06:03] <Pici> [selfsearcher] : The LiveCD doesnt work on all machines, you may have to use the alternate cd to install
[06:03] <yondie> [selfsearcher] , may i ask wat type of gfx ur using
[06:03] <yondie> just in case
[06:04] <ferronica> my Ktorrent crashed how to handle it??
[06:04] <[selfsearcher] > Pici: Yes but VESA is still not working in edgy AMD64. Even after an install in text mode
[06:05] <[selfsearcher] > yondie: ATI Radeon X800 XS and i use Ubuntu x86. It works good
[06:05] <neverblue> pha|con, still there?
[06:05] <pha|con> neverblue: yup
[06:05] <neverblue> pha|con, what does chroot /mnt/linux /bin/bash do?
[06:05] <yondie> neverblue, it means your root
[06:05] <yondie> will be at /mnt/linux
[06:05] <yondie> instead of /
[06:06] <pha|con> neverblue: what he said :)
[06:06] <attrib> hello!
[06:06] <neverblue> installing these packages is hanging
[06:06] <attrib> can you help me?
[06:06] <neverblue> i doubt archive.ubuntu.com is down
[06:06] <silvertip257> I have a computer with an onboard & video expansion card.  the Ubuntu live cd loads up on the video expansion card, bu then transfers over to the onboard.  How can I ensure that ubuntu will load drivers and allow me to use the video expansion card?
[06:06] <silvertip257> *but
[06:06] <attrib> a need driver for my ATI x1650pro
[06:07] <neverblue> does that help you :)
[06:07] <[selfsearcher] > attrib use fglrx or ati
[06:07] <attrib> ati
[06:07] <ali1234> silvertip257: tell xorg which card to use in xorg.conf
[06:07] <arthur> hi there, can anybody please point me in the right direction for ndiswrapper with kernel 2.6.22-6?
[06:07] <silvertip257> ali1234:  wait how do I tell xorg?
[06:07] <neverblue> since I am using the Live CD, and I am use apt-get install, I want it to install on the HD, not in the RAM where the OS is
[06:08] <pha|con> neverblue: is the net connection up w/ the live cd?
[06:08] <neverblue> so does that allow?
[06:08] <attrib> i am from croatia
[06:08] <attrib> people help
[06:08] <pha|con> neverblue: that's what chroot is for
[06:08] <neverblue> oh
[06:08] <neverblue> its not
[06:08] <arthur> the module ndiswrapper is not there
[06:08] <robdeman> hi all
[06:08] <pha|con> neverblue: make sure you can connect to the net so it can get the packages
[06:09] <robdeman> my Ubuntu 6.10 server Edition runs Trax 0.9.x ... can I easily upgrade to Trac 0.10 ?
[06:09] <neverblue> hmm, cannot even ping google
[06:09] <DeLude> Q: how do I make a removable media mount with ntfs-3g?
[06:09] <silvertip257> robdeman:  did you use synaptic to install it?
[06:09] <silvertip257> or apt-get ?
[06:09] <robdeman> silvertip257:I dont have a graphical desktop, I used apt-get
[06:09] <nivekc1> hey question, when i open the beryl-manager and click to change my window manager to beryl everything flashes and then it defaults back to metacity any idea what is going on here?
[06:10] <deep> DeLude: hey, creds for the Q. (: I'll start with that too. (:
[06:10] <ali1234> silvertip257: look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <_Andrew> nivekc1: Beryl is crashing
[06:10] <silvertip257> robdeman:  apt-get update and apt-get instal trax //// not sure if you have to have a version #
[06:11] <neverblue> ok
[06:11] <colbert> What is the command that if I am doing apt-get install program, it grabs the dependencies for it too ???
[06:11] <neverblue> looks like that chroot command messes something up
[06:11] <silvertip257> thanks ali1234 ... I will try that
[06:11] <pha|con> why?
[06:11] <neverblue> i can ping in my 'network tools' just fine
[06:11] <neverblue> but I cannot ping in cli
[06:11] <nivekc1> my video card is running under a restricted driver could that be the cause?
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> yes
[06:11] <robdeman> silvertip257: ehrm just 'apt-get update' ? and then 'apt-get instal trax ' ?
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> yes
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> yes
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> yes
[06:11] <erUSUL> colbert: apt-get install will grab dependencies. That's the whole point of apt
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:11] <robdeman> silvertip257: I already have trac installed as a package?
[06:11] <JUANJESUS> no
[06:12] <robdeman> JUANJESUS: shut up
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> hola
[06:12] <silvertip257> robdeman:  you have to do update to reload a newer list
[06:12] <erUSUL> !es | JUANJESUS
[06:12] <ubotu> JUANJESUS: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> hola
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> hola
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <erUSUL> !ops
[06:12] <Pici> !ops | JUANJESUS
[06:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <ubotu> JUANJESUS: please see above
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:12] <JUANJESUS> x
[06:13] <deep> gnomefreak: thanQ.
[06:13] <Pici> gnomefreak: ty :)
[06:13] <robdeman> thx
[06:13] <Pici> colbert: aptitude will get reccomended packages as well as the depends
[06:13] <Dr_willis> now let him back in and do it again! :)
[06:13] <nivekc1> my video card is running under a restricted driver could that be the cause?
[06:13] <vzduch> who did the translation for the !es message? sounds too formal in my ears..
[06:14] <silvertip257> robdeman:  I'm looking to see if there is a better command to help you, but you definitely have to run apt-get update first'
[06:14] <neverblue> pha|con, any more ideas?
[06:14] <erUSUL> vzduch: me
[06:14] <robdeman> silvertip257: seems nl.archive.ubuntu.com  is down
[06:14] <vzduch> and there is an error.. 'espaol' is not to be capitalized :)
[06:15] <silvertip257> robdeman:  you actually want:  sudo apt-get -u upgrade
[06:15] <Blackgoth> try nl2 in that case
[06:15] <robdeman> ok
[06:15] <robdeman> hey folks tx
[06:15] <robdeman> silvertip in particular
[06:15] <robdeman> I'll need to go into a meeting later
[06:15] <silvertip257> ok no prob robdeman
[06:16] <Blackgoth> OH GOD!
[06:16] <Blackgoth> he is running windows sbs
[06:16] <[selfsearcher] > oui? (lol)
[06:16] <erUSUL> vzduch: i wanted it to stand up in the msg... not rigorous by RAE standar but hey you were the one complining about "too formal" ;)
[06:16] <vzduch> erUSUL: ok, no offense meant :)
[06:17] <erUSUL> vzduch: no offense taken :)
[06:18] <demian> the mouse button setting on purplemoggy.blogspot.com doesn't tell me anything new. I followed the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Activate_side-mouse-buttons_in_FireFox, As far as I can think of I need to change one simple thing, which button does what
[06:18] <GizDrak> I need a little help with a advanced samba setup. I setup a virtual server inside my main samba server. So  I have one at netbios name: server1 and anothe ron netbios: server2. that all works but when I log on to server2 I can get to all the shares server1 can get to but when I log on to server1 I only get its shares which is what I want. How do I hide the server1 shares on server2?
[06:19] <pha|con> neverblue: sorry if i missed anything you said...i'm @ work and my windows desktop went nuts
[06:20] <reaper> is this the best linux for the desktop, what's another good choice
[06:20] <PriceChild> !best | reaper
[06:20] <ubotu> reaper: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:20] <dedi> how can i rename a harddisk like under windows? ubuntu uses a system to rename the mounted drives in /media and i want to change the name for there
[06:20] <Chepra> Hello guys
[06:20] <erUSUL> GizDrak: if it's an advanced samba question maybe it is wiser to ask in a specific samba channel, isn't it?
[06:20] <GizDrak> erUSUL: probably we got one running around here
[06:20] <Chepra> Is there any .deb for Feisty of libcurl7.16.2?
[06:21] <dyrne> reaper: for easy package management i guess fedora suse the standards
[06:21] <dyrne> reaper: but there are many great little distros
[06:21] <reaper> yeah i'm saying for the desktop though, desktop users things
[06:22] <zaggynl> I wish ubuntu would go a bit more towards being a light OS
[06:22] <dyrne> dedi: man -k volume    might give you a good starting place
[06:22] <reaper> so I look at fedora, suse? and ubuntu
[06:22] <neverblue> pha|con, np
[06:22] <dedi> dyrne thanks
[06:22] <neverblue> think i am getting somewhere
[06:22] <pha|con> cool
[06:22] <vzduch> reaper: SUSE is especially resource-heavy.. I'm speaking from my own experience
[06:23] <KingPepe> hello
[06:23] <Arenlor> reaper, I've used Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian and I like Ubuntu the most, and Fedora second
[06:23] <KingPepe> is there a standalone torrent program without the need to install for linux
[06:23] <vzduch> Fedora is a good choice if you know how to fiddle w/ things
[06:23] <reaper> whyis that Arenlor
[06:23] <KingPepe> just like utorrent for windows..
[06:23] <neverblue> bbiab
[06:23] <phpcurious> i have a question guys
[06:23] <phpcurious> i hope im in correct channel
[06:24] <Pici> phpcurious: ask and we'll tell you
[06:24] <phpcurious> how do i know i installed mysql correctly
[06:24] <silvertip257> duoo KingPepe:  plz tell me/us if you find one
[06:24] <KingPepe> I will:)
[06:24] <Brendan_in_Brazi> can someone help me with a problem installing feisty on a pII 350mhz compaq. I get an error saying that the bios is too old
[06:24] <silvertip257> lol
[06:24] <Arenlor> reaper, Ubuntu is the simplest one and the best looking, and it's easier to get something you want with, Fedora though is faster in my experience
[06:24] <phpcurious> i mean i already installed so many mysql related packages
[06:25] <phpcurious> but still when I try to run "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[06:25] <silvertip257> Brendan_in_Brazi:  I've seen that, but have not resolved it on a comp of mine
[06:25] <phpcurious> it says command not found
[06:25] <KingPepe> how about a standalone firefox?
[06:25] <KingPepe> does that exist?
[06:26] <Brendan_in_Brazi> thx silvertip. any idea where i can go to get some help with it?
[06:26] <silvertip257> dunno KingPepe .. just get a USB distro like DSL or Puppy or {many more}
[06:26] <dedi> phpcurious: try apt-get install mysql-server --reinstall
[06:26] <vzduch> dedi: iiac it has to be 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server'
[06:27] <silvertip257> Brendan_inBrazi:  not so sure, but I'm going to flash my bios on that machine if I find an upgrade --- I'm an experienced/certified comp tech, so don't flash unless you know what you're doing
[06:27] <vzduch> option before pkg name
[06:27] <phpcurious> dedi: okay thanks
[06:27] <Andeh> Hey, is it possible to run beryl without XGL? Cause i ran beryl fine (a tad slow on this machine) even without beryl my windows get "tearing" when i move them.
[06:27] <Andeh> How can i check if XGL is installed, and if it's not, what's the package name (do i need any additional packages?)
[06:27] <yondie> KingPepe, firefox comes by default with ubuntu so i wonder why u need a standalone
[06:27] <phpcurious> dedi: im doing that right now
[06:27] <Faster> zdravim .... poradi mi tu nekdo s ovladacem k sitove karte ?
[06:27] <dedi> vzduch: sudo is clear for everyone and the reinstall can be anywhere
[06:27] <silvertip257> Brendan_inBrazi:  I can contact you if you'd like ... if you're in this channel later on then I'll hit ya up w/ a message
[06:27] <gtk> try: dpkg-configure  mysql
[06:27] <Pici> phpcurious: I think the daemon name is mysqld anyway
[06:27] <OConnor> soundray: it is after ~an hour still on 5%... still ext3-filesystem stuff...
[06:28] <Chepra> no one using curlftpfs here?
[06:28] <vzduch> Faster: English only here
[06:28] <Faster> Sorry
[06:28] <Brendan_in_Brazi> silvertip: 2 problems with that for me. 1st - the compaq bios update is from 1999(ubuntu wants >2000) & 2nd - dell's bios flash prog didn't work - gave me an error saying couldn't be updated
[06:28] <Brendan_in_Brazi> silvertip: thx
[06:30] <neverblue> how do I find out what linux-image I am using?
[06:30] <silvertip257> Brendan_in_Brazi:  I'll take a look, but you dont wanna use Dells bios flash prog ... you want one from compaq probably
[06:30] <vzduch> neverblue: huh?
[06:30] <silvertip257> bbl Brendan_in_Brazi
[06:30] <neverblue> nm
[06:30] <Pici> neverblue: uname -a
[06:31] <phpcurious> oh btw guys
[06:31] <Brendan_in_Brazi> silvertip: same same now - all the compaq links, etc now go to dell
[06:31] <phpcurious> how do i monitor the processes in ubuntu
[06:31] <neverblue> top
[06:31] <zaggynl> phpcurious, ps aux, top
[06:31] <yondie> phpcurious, top
[06:31] <OConnor> any1 else know if it's normal if feisty fawn installation hangs for 1hour+ on 5% while making ext3-filesystem stuff?
[06:31] <phpcurious> haha
[06:31] <phpcurious> thanks so much guys
[06:31] <greyfrog> OConnor, that is not good... drive may be bad
[06:32] <neverblue> hmm
[06:32] <OConnor> greyfrog: "impossible", works fine with windows, no errors in hd check...
[06:32] <neverblue> so I got this when I tried to remove linux-image
[06:33] <OConnor> it is sata, if that matters...
[06:33] <Pici> neverblue: Why are you trying to remove linux-image?
[06:33] <greyfrog> OConnor, was just about to ask...  do you have an intel based MB?  ICH5 by any chance?
[06:33] <neverblue> the link /vmlinux is a damaged link, removing symbolic link vmlinuz, unless you used the optional flag in lilo, you may need to re-run your boot loaded [lilo] 
[06:34] <neverblue> Pici, booting issues
[06:34] <ScottishDuckHunt> can someone help me with my HDD, it wont partition =(
[06:34] <neverblue> ScottishDuckHunt, what are you using as a tool?
[06:34] <ScottishDuckHunt> GParted
[06:34] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: details please
[06:34] <greyfrog> OConnor, I'm not really sure how to help in this case...  Keep asking though and someone should be able to help
[06:34] <neverblue> ScottishDuckHunt, what error?
[06:34] <ScottishDuckHunt> im currently on 100% windowz
[06:35] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: tried to mkfs.ext3 in Knoppix or so?
[06:35] <ScottishDuckHunt> i think the MBR info is incorrect
[06:35] <ScottishDuckHunt> vzduch: no, ill thry that
[06:35] <OConnor> greyfrog: it an nVidia 550 MB, guess that the sata-controller too... what wrong with tje ICH5?
[06:35] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: nvm, wrong nick :)
[06:36] <vzduch> OConnor: tried to mkfs.ext3 in Knoppix or so?
[06:36] <ScottishDuckHunt> the error is basically that my HDD is corrupted but it clearly isnt
[06:36] <greyfrog> the ICH5 has some problems with recognizing SATA drives correctly...  shouldn't matter here though I don't think
[06:36] <ScottishDuckHunt> and ive done chkdsk /f  three times
[06:37] <mzanfardino> I don't suppose there is any reason to keep evolution on my machine if I'm not using it for calendaring, etc. no?
[06:37] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: get a drive check tool from your vendor & run a full check, can't hurt :)
[06:37] <ScottishDuckHunt> hmmm
[06:37] <greyfrog> OConnor, I'd try starting the install over...  I'm not sure why it would hang here.  Maybe someone else knows...
[06:37] <greyfrog> OConnor, sorry I couldn't be more help...
[06:37] <ScottishDuckHunt> will CPU-Z give me my vendor?
[06:38] <geet> can you even get cpu-z for linux
[06:38] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: you gotta be kidding.. you don't know what brand of HDD you have?
[06:38] <underking> Hello, can anyone help me please?
[06:38] <OConnor> greyfrog: tried that several times... il switch sata ports. nd no excuse plz, i'm helped ;) I now know it isn normal...
[06:38] <ScottishDuckHunt> oh lol sry
[06:38] <PIPBoy_> can anyone tell me how to do a filesystem check at boot?
[06:38] <Milkma1> /leave
[06:38] <ScottishDuckHunt> im kinda slow today
[06:38] <ScottishDuckHunt> its a samsung :D
[06:39] <greyfrog> OConnor, that is probably your best bet... good luck :)
[06:39] <gratuit> PIPBoy_: why do you want to?
[06:39] <atle|f> OConnor : tried booting with noapic command?
[06:39] <vzduch> ScottishDuckHunt: it's called Hutil, comes either as a bootable CD or as a floppy image
[06:39] <underking> After I exit Beryl I lose my windows decorations and can't get them back with out Ctrl - Alt + Backspace to a log in screen again, is there anyways I can fix this please?
[06:39] <Chepra> dont exit beryl
[06:39] <Chepra> choose another fensterdecorator
[06:39] <Chepra> eh, windowmanager
[06:39] <underking> But when I close the terminal window it exits Beryl :(
[06:40] <underking> I am very new to Linux sorry
[06:40] <Chepra> than dont start it in an terminal
[06:40] <vzduch> Chepra: if you think this is English you are heavy on the woodway :D
[06:40] <underking> how do I start it without lol?
[06:40] <geet> hey underking, you can hit CTRL+Z before yo uclose the terminal, and it wont exit beryl!
[06:40] <underking> ooooh
[06:40] <underking> THank you geet
[06:41] <geet> or you can press CTRL+F2, and type beryl-manager there
[06:41] <geet> sorry ALT+F2
[06:41] <Chepra> vzduch: :D
[06:41] <Chepra> Well, no one using curlftpfs + feisty? :(
[06:41] <geet> actually underking, hit CTRL+Z in the terminal, then type bg before you exit the terminal
[06:41] <OConnor> atle|f: what's noapic?
[06:41] <mzanfardino> PIPBoy_: according to the ubuntu forums, you can force a fsck by: Creating file "forcefsck" in the root directory should cause an fsck to be run on next reboot.
[06:41] <atle|f> !noapic
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noapic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <vzduch> !apic
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <neverblue> pha|con, didnt work :(
[06:42] <neverblue> replacing the linux-headers didnt work
[06:42] <pha|con> did you install initrd?
[06:42] <neverblue> yeah
[06:42] <fiamy> hola
[06:43] <neverblue> sudo apt-get install initrd-tools
[06:43] <neverblue> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:43] <neverblue> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:43] <demian> Hi can anyone with a 7 button mouse send me his or her output of /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc
[06:43] <vzduch> 2.6.10? Dapper?
[06:43] <vzduch> or even Breezy?
[06:43] <Don64> !es | fiamy
[06:43] <ubotu> fiamy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:43] <pha|con> the linux-headers shouldn't have anything to do with it, either grub can't find your /boot directory, it's not loading the modules for mounting your FS or your disk is blown
[06:44] <pha|con> from here i'd say your best bet it to back up what you have and just reinstall /
[06:44] <phpcurious> hey guys
[06:44] <ins-dragonclaw> hello
[06:44] <geet> 'ello phpcurious
[06:44] <phpcurious> i went to a seminar
[06:44] <ins-dragonclaw> Where is the sudoers file?
[06:45] <phpcurious> about VOIP
[06:45] <phpcurious> can i also install VOIP in ubuntu?
[06:45] <zaggynl> ins-dragonclaw, try 'man sudo' at the terminal
[06:45] <neverblue> yes
[06:45] <neverblue> phpcurious, Asterisk
[06:45] <phpcurious> yeah
[06:45] <jrib> ins-dragonclaw: /etc/sudoers  but you should never edit it directly.  Instead use "visudo" and be sure you understand what you are doing
[06:45] <geet> or Skype
[06:45] <UberHalogen> When starting to install Ubuntu 7 I got the message that my bios is old and something about acpi, it still continued - but is this anything bad?
[06:45] <neverblue> learn *
[06:45] <neverblue> get a server running
[06:45] <phpcurious> actually more like voip server
[06:45] <zaggynl> UberHalogen, it's never bad when it works ;-)
[06:46] <UberHalogen> zaggynl: :D
[06:46] <ins-dragonclaw> oh crap
[06:46] <ins-dragonclaw> i'm in trouble
[06:46] <ins-dragonclaw> somehow, i managed to remove myself from sudo
[06:46] <ins-dragonclaw> and i can't log in as root
[06:46] <jrib> ins-dragonclaw: what is the output of this command:  groups
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> 2-line paste
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> eleazar@eleazar-desktop:/etc$ groups
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> eleazar adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[06:47] <jrib> ins-dragonclaw: you need to be in the "admin" group to sudo.  Reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub menu, then issue:  adduser eleazar admin
[06:47] <neverblue> check your history
[06:47] <neverblue> and see how you removed su
[06:47] <UberHalogen> o.O why is there a little orange bar going across my screen for the last 5 minutes?
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> ok thanks
[06:48] <neverblue> also look at the ubuntu guide
[06:48] <neverblue> has some good info at the bottom
[06:48] <atle|f> OConnor : press F6 on the boot menu of the cd, and add noapic to the end of that line. At this screen http://i7.tinypic.com/27xqdep.jpg
[06:48] <MrOtacon> Hey guys, does anyone know an app that can read guitar pro 3 and 4 files? - I have installed KGuitar, but am not having much luck with it... it crashes when i open a file
[06:49] <OConnor> atle|f: going to try that now.
[06:49] <neverblue> MrOtacon, use wine?
[06:49] <neverblue> im guess its a windows app?
[06:49] <MrOtacon> neverblue: Yes it is... I tried wine - but midi doesn't seem to work when i use it
[06:50] <neverblue> there are other 'wine' type software out there
[06:50] <bronze> Hey, what programs can I use to rip a CD into FLAC lossless? (UBUNTU)
[06:50] <MrOtacon> ok - thanks... i'll just keep looking around then
[06:50] <neverblue> http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:50] <mezziah> yes, there might be an alternative for your program
[06:50] <gratuit> bronze: I like sound juicer
[06:50] <neverblue> try that link MrOtacon
[06:50] <OConnor> atle|f: I just pressd F6 'nd typed noapic at the end, and pressed enter...
[06:51] <mezziah> MrOtacon: have you already searched the software archive in freshmeat.net for an alternative?
[06:51] <UberHalogen> rem, why would I see a single underscore flashing in the top left corner of the screen after going through a screen which had an orange bar, nothing apears to be happening?
[06:51] <bronze> gratuit, Can sound juicer make a log for the ripping?
[06:51] <MrOtacon> mezziah: yeah - i got DGuitar, but it seems really basic
[06:51] <MrOtacon> neverblue: Thanks - will do
[06:51] <atle|f> OConnor : not sure if it will help, could be bad cd
[06:51] <demian> plz. can anyone with a 7 button mouse send me his or her output of /etc/X11/imwheel/imwheelrc
[06:51] <neverblue> np
[06:51] <MrOtacon> also - does anyone know if fruity loops runs properly in ubuntu?
 not sure
[06:51] <demian> I'm going nuts here
[06:52] <Gasten> Hi! I'm following the tutorial on writing a python plugin for Rhythmbox. There is one problem, though: I couldnt find the .gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins-folder, so I created one. I've done exactly as it sais in the tutorial, but the plugin doesnt show up. Can you help me? The Rhythmbox-guys doesn't have a clue.
[06:53] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : i looked on the web and found LMMS
[06:53] <ins-dragonclaw> it worked!
[06:53] <Gasten> demian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[06:53] <ins-dragonclaw> thanks a million
[06:53] <phpcurious> fruityloops clone
[06:53] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: ahhh - cool man :) thanks a lot
[06:53] <afie> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-338934.html    Ubuntu guys and girls, I am having the problem described in that link after updating alsa on this machine because an auto update broke the sound.
[06:54] <ryan__> I'm looking for help with ndiswrapper and getting my wireless card to work, if anyone can help please pm me
[06:54] <demian> bedankt gasten
[06:54] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: are you a dj?
[06:54] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : i like FruityLoops
[06:54] <afie> Now flash doesn't work and the person I recommended Ubuntu to (because I know windows would be an absolute fucking nightmare for them) asked me if computers "are supposed to have this many problems"
[06:54] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : i use it in windows XP
[06:54] <afie> You're breaking my balls guys . . you are breaking, my balls
[06:54] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: No, Im a producer... My mate is a dj and he uses my stuff - pretty cool :)
[06:55] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: i also found out that Sony has something like that
[06:55] <PriceChild> !ohmy | afie
[06:55] <ubotu> afie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: of course it's not free
[06:55] <greyfrog> afie, what is the output of asoundconf list
[06:55] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: yeah - FL is cool man... yeah - didn;t think the sony one would be open source... I'll take a look at LMMS though :)
[06:55] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: thanks
[06:55] <afie> Names of available sound cards:
[06:55] <afie> Intel
[06:55] <afie> The card, works.
[06:56] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: ACID XPress
[06:56] <afie> what doesn't work, is 32-bit flash with 64-bit firefox via nspluginwrapper.
[06:56] <greyfrog> afie k, nevermind... wanted to be sure you didn't have multiple sound cards...
[06:56] <colbert> http://pastebin.ca/584150   anyone ??
[06:56] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: ahh - that must be the Acid Pro port
[06:56] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : yeah
[06:57] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: i wish i could hear some of your music
[06:57] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: acid pro is ok... but i just found fl to be more - well, just more.. lol
[06:57] <afie> http://pastebin.ca/584151
[06:57] <afie> That tells the story.
[06:57] <jrib> afie: why would you use 64bit for a user who you don't think would be comfortable using windows?
[06:57] <MrOtacon> erm... one sec - i got a link to one track i just made for someones halo 2 montage video... let me find it
[06:57] <afie> The file I attempted to create is empty.
[06:57] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: i am just a newbie in FL
[06:58] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: I have only been using it for like 7 months... but am getting pretty good now i think
[06:58] <afie> jrib, who would expect "STABLE" Ubuntu updates to break ALSA drivers for a very very very widely used chip?
[06:58] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: that's cool man
[06:58] <UberHalogen> Why would my Ubuntu 7 installation hang and just display an underscore in the top left corner?
[06:58] <jrib> afie: I'm referring to your flash comment
[06:58] <aoliax> hello, is anyone familiar with adding printers that are not supported on ubuntu, to a vbox?
[06:58] <greyfrog> UberHalogen, hit ctrl-alt-f1 to see the error
[06:59] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: http://static.boomp3.com/player.swf?id=7210b1758970 check that dude... if you ever played halo 2 - you'll recognise it :)
[06:59] <Andeh> Hey
[06:59] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: okay
[06:59] <UberHalogen> greyfrog: ACPI: BIOS age (1998) fails cutoff (2000)...
[06:59] <afie> jrib, Because 32-bit flash used through nspluginwrapper is less broken than almost every aspect of windows.
[06:59] <greyfrog> UberHalogen, ouch. thats an old computer
[07:00] <jrib> afie: but if you used 32bit ubuntu, you wouldn't need to bother with it at all
[07:00] <UberHalogen> greyfrog: Yeah, it originally had good old Windows 98 on it.
[07:00] <afie> jrib, Which is still exponentially less troublesome than windows.
[07:00] <Andeh> I'm reading a Gentoo XGL FAQ and it tells me to get rid of the white screen when using Beryl i need to use the "emerge" command (several times with different options) but this doesn't work on ubuntu. What's the "emerge" equivalent on ubuntu, or how do i get rid of the white screen that shows up?
[07:00] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: yeah - my friend, in my clan (hsm - ok, im a geek :P) was making a vid - so i said i would make the soundtrack for it
[07:00] <UberHalogen> greyfrog: On the next line it also says Loading, please wait... - how long could that go on for?
[07:00] <jrib> afie: I am saying, you should install 32bit ubuntu instead of 64bit ubuntu for the user
[07:01] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: thats just one of the tracks in it - but only one i have on this comp
[07:01] <greyfrog> UberHalogen, somebody has to have had that error before...  I'd try google with that error or keep asking here.
[07:01] <afie> jrib, No
[07:01] <UberHalogen> greyfrog: ok
[07:01] <Andeh> It might not even exist on ubuntu, i suspected XGL wasn't activated and copied a XORG.conf from the gentoo wiki that might have messed it up.
[07:01] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: still loading man
[07:01] <afie> jrib, I am saying Ubuntu updates shouldn't break ALSA on an extremely popular (intel hda) chip.
[07:01] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: try refreshing it dude... its prob cause i was listening :)
[07:02] <jrib> afie: it might help if you include teh updates that broke alsa in your paste.  Did you check bugs.ubuntu.com?
[07:02] <livingdaylight> #pclinuxos
[07:02] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: you gotta click play - it doesnt autostart
[07:02] <phpcurious> MrOtacon ahhh
[07:02] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : im stupid
[07:02] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: naaa - its flash... you'd expect it to autostart
[07:03] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: did you do that music? or edited it ?
[07:03] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: WOW awesome man
[07:04] <MrOtacon> phpcurious:  everything is made from samples, and i used the plugins for reverb and stuff
[07:04] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: thanks man :)
[07:04] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: do you have tutorials?
[07:04] <phpcurious> in FL?
[07:04] <DaRokkStarr> Hey people, quick question here...
[07:04] <Mindcat> hello, does anybody know how can i have my laptop monitor turned off when the screensaver starts (like the black screen screensaver but with the screen turned off and not just blackened) in ubuntu?
[07:05] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: want to be good in making cool music like that!
[07:05] <jrib> Mindcat: system -> preferences -> power management
[07:05] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: I got some vedio tutorial cds via torrent from somewhere... but they are on my other comp, XP, and i've lent it to a mate... but - if ya want, as soon as i get it back, i can host them on an ftp for you
[07:05] <MrOtacon> *video
[07:05] <DaRokkStarr> I don't remember where, but I once read that it's possible to boot Ubuntu from a usb key...
[07:06] <jrib> !install > DaRokkStarr (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:06] <Mindcat> thanks
[07:06] <Dr_willis> DaRokkStarr,  ubuntu hacks book had a chapter.  seen a few wiki pags with that info also.
[07:06] <Dr_willis> byeee
[07:06] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: wow really ?
[07:06] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: you'd do that for me?
[07:06] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: thanks man
[07:07] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: yeah - sure man... no skin off my back - besides, it'll be helping you
[07:07] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : when I finally make one cool music track
[07:07] <jrib> phpcurious, MrOtacon: hi, can you move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic?  thanks
[07:07] <DaRokkStarr> Thanks! I just couldn't find the info anywhere anymore... I should make it a friggin reflex to put these links in my favs... :S
[07:07] <phpcurious> MrOtacon : i would like to share it with you
[07:07] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: pm me ur email and when i get it back (prob next week) i'll email you the details :)
[07:07] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: Sounds good man...
[07:07] <Andeh> Hey, I finally managed to get 3D accelerated graphics running, EXCEPT...
[07:08] <MrOtacon> phpcurious: who knows - maybe we can work on something between us?
[07:08] <metbsd> how do i change resolution to 1280x800
[07:08] <phpcurious> MrOtacon: yeah
[07:08] <metbsd> it's always at 1024x800
[07:08] <Andeh> They only run on GNOME (havent tried KDE) cause Fluxbox has window tearing. And when they do run on gnome it's messed up.
[07:08] <metbsd> which is not right
[07:08] <Andeh> The entire screen gets filled with rubbish
[07:08] <Andeh> I can barely still use it but while i use it bits get left behind
[07:09] <vzduch> metbsd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- in the screen section go to Medium and choose the resolution(s) you want your screen to use.. or even better, choose Advanced and enter the horizontal and vertical frequency ranges of your display
[07:10] <vzduch> it will then come up w/ the right resolution
[07:12] <Andeh> When i reconfigured XORG and selected my res, it activated XGL (i wanted that) but when i use GNOME with XGL it COMPLETELY gets messed up. Fluxbox runs without it for some reason. It also has a messed up screen res, it fills it up exactly but it's distorted.
[07:12] <shadowhywind> hay all having a werid issue, if i leave my computer sit for like 5 mins without doing anything.. when i come back, its becomes very slow
[07:12] <afie> jrib, I have alsa 1.0.14rc1 now.
[07:13] <Captus> anyone here using trixbox :) ?
[07:13] <fuser> Hi
[07:13] <fuser> I use the good weather gdesklet
[07:14] <fuser> I am unable to find my location code ?
[07:14] <fuser> I tried searching weather.com , couldn`t find it there
[07:14] <sebrock> I get a Input/output error when trying to ls a mounted dir... anyone knows? (nfs)
[07:15] <colbert> I'm contemplating upgrading to feisty.. what is recommended, an upgrade or a fresh install ?
[07:15] <vzduch> fuser: if you mean those four-letter codes.. afair they can be found somewhere on the sites of the US Air Force
[07:15] <fuser> I live in chennai,India
[07:15] <fuser> not the US
[07:15] <dawn`chorus> colbert, fresh install
[07:16] <vzduch> fuser: they have codes from all over the world
[07:16] <dawn`chorus> colbert, what makes you want to upgrade?
[07:16] <fuser> found it
[07:16] <NET||abuse> I've got a dvd that was sent to me (publicity shots for a website) about 400MB of photos,, but i put it in, and the auto mount fails, gives me an error popup, "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'."
[07:16] <fuser> thanks
[07:16] <hwilde> how do I add my windows drive to /etc/fstab ?
[07:16] <fuser> http://sudarsanyes.wordpress.com/tag/desktop/
[07:17] <Andeh> Hey, I did a xorg reconfigure and selected my card as ATI, and my screen res, but the res is distorted (fills screen tho) and when i run GNOME it looks like this: http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb258/funnyav/Mesed.jpg
[07:17] <Andeh> Can anyone help me?
[07:17] <colbert> dawn`chorus: i was guessing fresh.. um, nothing really, not even sure I am going to, 6.10 is working perfectly.. i guess i'm wondering if there are any major reasons to
[07:17] <NET||abuse> what do i need to do here?? i've tried changing my /etc/fstab, it was udf, iso9600, i switched it to iso9600, udf  and to just auto, not working
[07:17] <Andeh> It really looks like that, completely messed up lol
[07:17] <Andeh> So, can anyone help?
[07:17] <vzduch> NET||abuse: 9600? you mean 9660?
[07:18] <dto> hello all.
[07:18] <dawn`chorus> colbert, Feisty has some polish, but as long as everything works for you ...
[07:18] <jrib> afie: what package specifically?
[07:18] <Andeh> BTW i have a laptop, ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9200
[07:18] <vzduch> Andeh: tried the Advanced option? (hfreq & vfreq)
[07:18] <elmo_> How can I get non-threaded Perl for ubuntu desktop?  Trying mod_perl for apache2 having troubles with threads
[07:18] <Andeh> vzduch: Could that be messing up the perspective and GNOME being exploded over the screen?
[07:18] <afie> jrib, I've just found that emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-2.5 is compatible with the new ALSA.
[07:18] <NET||abuse> vzduch, :) yeh, nevermind my typo
[07:18] <colbert> dawn`chorus: that's what i was thinking, if it's just a bit "prettier" or what have you, i'll stick with what works :D
[07:18] <Andeh> vzduch: lol
[07:18] <OConnor> atle|f: isn't working, doesn't even fully boot with noapic... now im going to try the 32-bit version.
[07:19] <dedi> i dont get vnc and nfs authentication and have no clue why
[07:19] <vzduch> Andeh: dunno, I don't have a wide screen
[07:19] <atle|f> OConnor : as I said might not worg
[07:19] <atle|f> work
[07:19] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you could always try the fresh install and cp'ing your home partition or so, maybe you have a separate /home partition.  that'd make it easy.
[07:19] <vzduch> hwilde: what's the problem there?
[07:19] <dawn`chorus> colbert, fresh install ... on a separate partition.
[07:20] <Andeh> vzduch: Mine's 1280X800
[07:20] <Andeh> vzduch: One more question, when XORG fails to start (happens a lot here lol) now i don't get a terminal, i need to press CTRL+ALT+F1 for a terminal, and i can't "start" X from there
[07:20] <silvertip257> Is there a reason why Ubuntu chooses my onboard video rather than my video card that is set in the bios ?
[07:21] <colbert> dawn`chorus: yeah i have a separete /home part.. that was a thought too, perhaps i could install it and try it out while I still have my edgy left alone.. how would i go about that? i have / and /home separate parts, then another big part on the same drive.. and another drive with 2 parts too
[07:22] <vzduch> Andeh: if you need to Ctrl+Alt+F1 into a console, my guess is that an X server is running, but no display manager
[07:22] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you'll just mount the /home partition device to /home (when given that option during the install process) and mounting / to the new install partition.  I'd backup /home, too, before doing this.
[07:22] <SeanTater>  9/10 of my packets are bring dropped, and when I disabled SPI on my router, it improves to 4/5. Is my router just dropping that many packets?
[07:22] <Andeh> vzduch: Ok, cause typing GDM doesnt do anything
[07:23] <Andeh> vzduch: You said i needed to use the advanced option, how do i do that?
[07:23] <eleaza1> ok, i have another question
[07:23] <ins-dragonclaw> would help if i was using my own nick
[07:23] <ins-dragonclaw> I have the Apache web server installed
[07:23] <ins-dragonclaw> how do I restart the service?
[07:24] <vzduch> Andeh: it comes up in the process.. when it comes to configuring your screen you can choose 'Easy' (or something; don't remember exactly), 'Medium' and 'Advanced'
[07:24] <preaction> ins-dragonclaw: sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[07:24] <preaction> ins-dragonclaw: it might be "apache2" instead of "apache" or even "httpd"
[07:24] <HymnToLife> ins-dragonclaw, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:24] <HymnToLife> or did they change it ?
[07:24] <ins-dragonclaw> it's apache2
[07:24] <Andeh> vzduch: Um... actually using the dpkg-reconfigure xserver.... blabla... it just asks me for the video card and res
[07:25] <ins-dragonclaw> thanks, HymnToLife
[07:25] <ins-dragonclaw> I think it worked...
[07:25] <colbert> dawn`chorus: so basically I am reusing / and /home wiht the new install? Like when it asks me what to use for each, I choose the current partitions I am using, and I leave them as is? (And yes I backup to dvd-rw weekly)
[07:25] <vzduch> I didn't try the 1st option.. in the 2nd you can pick screen resolutions that should be used.. but it made my TFT run @ 60 Hz, so I chose 'Advanced', entered the frequencies and, voil, at next start of X it was correct @ 75 Hz
[07:25] <colissa_colored> Hello :)
[07:25] <mobutu> what does this mean?:
[07:25] <mobutu> root@cremepuff:~# wifi-radar
[07:25] <mobutu> dhclient3 --version 2>&1
[07:25] <mobutu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:25] <mobutu>   File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1414, in <module>
[07:26] <mobutu>     auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )
[07:26] <mobutu> AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split'
[07:26] <Andeh> vzduch: I typed this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[07:26] <OConnor> atle|f: indeed :)
[07:26] <the_undefined> Simple Q: How do I start a GUI app (like Firefox) from console?
[07:26] <vzduch> Andeh: I guess that narrows down what you are shown.. try leaving the switchs out
[07:26] <Andeh> ok...
[07:26] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you'll use the same /home partition.  but you'll use the new, empty partition to mount to / .   if you mount Edgy's root to / during the install process, you'll nuke Edgy.  so use a different partition.
[07:26] <colissa_colored> i'm sorry the question but have you guys having problems whith firestarter firewall in ubuntu? Im asking this because i install the firewall and reboot and after reboot thefirewalls looks is turnedoff only running manually looks is working
[07:27] <mobutu> what does treating a list as a string in python have to do with running wifi-radar correctly ?
[07:27] <vzduch> Andeh: in full mode, you are being asked a lot of questions not only about the screen, but also about keyboard, mouse etc.
[07:28] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, i've have that problem w/ firestarter too, along with folks in the firestarter mail-list.  Try guarddog.  Be sure to read the manual.
[07:28] <colbert> dawn`chorus: ahh yes, okay.. so I have / = 10gb, /home =20gb and extra=270gb.. so I would just make a new small partition out of extra and use that for root, right?
[07:28] <techjim> Hey guys, on my server, I get 'linux-image-server linux-server
[07:28] <techjim> ' after issuing 'sudo apt-get update.'  what should I do? dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <greyfrog> the_undefined, try firefow &
[07:28] <greyfrog> the_undefined, try firefox &
[07:28] <ins-dragonclaw> awesome - thanks!
[07:28] <Acidic32> ls
[07:28] <the_undefined> greyfrog: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:28] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus is one very danger bug because the persons can think they have the firewall turned on buts looks not :x the firewall is notworking :x
[07:28] <aleix> hi, i forgot the name of a linux command, maybe you can help me...
[07:28] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you got it.  you can use the same swap partition you're using now as well, but you already knew that.
[07:29] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus ok thank you :)
[07:29] <jetscreamer> lol
[07:29] <Acidic32> how can i stop someone login into SSH, but still login to FTP?
[07:29] <greyfrog> the_undefined, that's weird... you running inside screen?
[07:29] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, you're welcome.
[07:29] <hwilde> Acidic32, change the ftp password and only give them that one
[07:29] <aleix> let's say you have a terminal output from a command, well, this utility would take the output and update it every X seconds
[07:29] <the_undefined> greyfrog: Logged on to the machine via SSH
[07:29] <Acidic32> but the ftp password is via passwd
[07:30] <Acidic32> which SSH use
[07:30] <aleix> anyone knows the name of this program?
[07:30] <the_undefined> greyfrog: just tested locally and it actually works like that
[07:30] <the_undefined> greyfrog: how to do it via SSH?
[07:30] <colbert> dawn`chorus: wow that's quite simple then... i'm curious though, how will the new install affect GRUB? i'm fairly familiar with editing GRUB, would it be possible to have it let me choose between edgy and feisty ??
[07:30] <ali1234> Acidic32: change their shell to "/bin/true" in /etc/passwd
[07:30] <greyfrog> the_undefined, you need to have ssh X tunneling enabled... something like ssh -X when you run ssh... best to look at the man page for more info
[07:30] <Acidic32> that wont work
[07:30] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus looks the bether ihave something idependend making firewall one router for exemple :x
[07:30] <Acidic32> cuz it denys ftp access
[07:31] <Acidic32> unless /bin/sh ?
[07:31] <rob_p> aleix: watch
[07:31] <aleix> OF COURSE !!! thanks rob_p!
[07:31] <rob_p> aleix: welcome
[07:32] <dawn`chorus> colbert, yes, you can add Feisty to your existing GRUB menu.  when you install Feisty, choose not to install GRUB to the MBR.  instead, just edit your existing menu.lst to include the new Feisty install.  you can always install GRUB from within Feisty later if you choose.
[07:32] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, sorry, i didn't really catch that.  come again?
[07:33] <Halai> i am having trouble with remote desktop/vnc authentication into my machine. i have reset the password numerous times, but i still get "Authentication Failed" when I try to login using internet/lan/localhost.
[07:33] <neverblue> is there a way I can install older packages?
[07:33] <mary23> ola
[07:33] <neverblue> using the current repos?
[07:34] <mary23> hablar en espaol
[07:34] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus i was say that probably is one good idea have one router\firewall here and not use only the os firewalls because looks thye can miss something :)
[07:35] <vzduch> !es | mary23
[07:35] <ubotu> mary23: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:35] <colbert> dawn`chorus: ahh this is simple then.. ok, so are there other things/precautions or this method will just allow me to try out feisty with no effect to my current edgy
[07:35] <soundray> Halai: does your password work when you log in via ssh?
[07:35] <Halai> soundray : yes.
[07:35] <Halai> soundray : i am using feisty fawn. i am on the machine at the moment which is giving me issues. my vnc authentication password is different from my ssh password.
[07:36] <Acidic32> how can i allow someone to login via FTP but not SSH, if username/password is in /etc/passwd ?
[07:36] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, depends on what you're using your machine for, I guess.  For some things, yes, I'd definitely want a firewall w/ my router.  Right now, couldn't care less.
[07:36] <shadowhywind> hay al if i let ubuntu sit for like 5 mins when i come back everything is very very slow anyone have anyideas?
[07:36] <preaction> shadowhywind: the system swapped all your memory to disk
[07:36] <soundray> Halai: are you trying to connect to your X desktop, or are you running a separate vnc server?
[07:36] <shadowhywind> my swap is still completely free
[07:36] <silvertip257> I need to know how I can ensure Ubuntu will load a driver for my video card in a PCI slot, although it's using the onboard video once it loads the live environment
[07:37] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus i have see more problems the server been ataked from the client side then from the server side
[07:37] <Halai> soundray : it used to work fine until a few days ago. i am only using the server process which comes under system > prefs > remote desktop
[07:37] <Halai> soundray : it works fine if i remove the checkbox for having the user enter a password
[07:37] <preaction> shadowhywind: according to what?
[07:37] <shadowhywind> according to the kde system guard and swaaapon -sss
[07:38] <shadowhywind> -s
[07:38] <shadowhywind> and free also states that used =   0
[07:38] <preaction> shadowhywind: leave a terminal open with `vmstat 3` running and see what happens to it
[07:38] <soundray> Halai: have you tried with a vnc password that consists only of alphanumeric characters (ie. no special characters)?
[07:38] <Belkin777> whats well supported in ubuntu ATI or nvidia video card ?
[07:38] <Unix-Jihad> im almost certain you can specify a username combined with a service in /etc/hosts.deny
[07:38] <Music_Shuffle> Nvidia cards.
[07:38] <shadowhywind> preaction sould i do that before i go idle ?
[07:38] <Halai> soundray : i use plain letters
[07:39] <dawn`chorus> colbert, as long as everything goes as expected, your Edgy install shouldn't be touched.  some things in /home might be altered, quite possibly.  if you're at all uneasy, just don't use your existing /home.  you could clone it or just start from scratch.
[07:39] <vzduch> Belkin777: Linux and ATI is still a joke
[07:39] <Belkin777> vzduch ok
[07:39] <Halai> soundray : i browsed the forums, seems it was a bug in edgy https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/65795
[07:39] <preaction> shadowhywind: yes. sin and sout will show you what's swapping in and out
[07:39] <Halai> can't find a feisty fix for it.
[07:39] <the_undefined> How do I launch firefox remotely? (SSH to ubuntu box from WinXP box, want firefox to launch on the ubuntu one)
[07:40] <silvertip257> I need to know how I can ensure Ubuntu will load a driver for my video card in a PCI slot, although it's using the onboard video once it loads the live environment
[07:40] <shadowhywind> so far with the computer beng slow rigt now, Si and So are bot 0
[07:40] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, i don't know much about networking.  all I know is how to get my dhcp up and running, and I'm suring Bobo the chimp could do that.  :)
[07:40] <colbert> dawn`chorus: ah ok, so i would do the same as with /, just make another part.. so have 2 / and 2 /home
[07:40] <wols_> the_undefined: you need a X server on windows
[07:40] <wols_> silvertip257: what cards do you have?
[07:41] <the_undefined> wols_: why? I just want firefox to pop up on the gnome desktop already running on the ubuntu box
[07:41] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you could, yes.  and then just copy over whatever files you want to move to Feisty, and, later, nuke Edgy to test for Gutsy.  :D
[07:41] <preaction> the_undefined: you can give `firefox` what display to use with the --display= switch
[07:41] <the_undefined> wols_: so X should be running on the ubuntu box, not the WinXP one
[07:41] <soundray> Halai: I'll boot my feisty machine (on edgy at the moment) and see if I can reproduce it.
[07:41] <rockets> Its really pitiful that Steam games, and a whole bunch of other games, work way better on wine then they do on Cedega.
[07:41] <preaction> the_undefined: ex: firefox --display=0:0
[07:41] <wols_> the_undefined: then set the DISPLAY= environment variable accordingly
[07:41] <silvertip257> wols_ the onboard video controller & an ati 3d card ... damn small will load fine & use the ati card, but ubuntu chooses the onboard for some odd reason
[07:41] <Halai> soundray : thanks mate.
[07:41] <shadowhywind> preaction so if nothing is entering the swap why is everything still slow?
[07:42] <the_undefined> preaction: , wols_: Yeah, how do I find out what --display parameter to use?
[07:42] <Cotton-swab> how can I overclock an intel gfx card?
[07:42] <wols_> silvertip257: what is the onboard card?
[07:42] <wols_> Cotton-swab: a) offtopic b) you can't. it's not a car
[07:42] <wols_> card
[07:42] <preaction> the_undefined: your existing session will have the DISPLAY variable set, use the terminal and type "echo $DISPLAY"
[07:42] <colbert> dawn`chorus: could i copy over things like my .asoundrc (was a pain in the arse to get my 5.1 working) and such? would work in feisty ?
[07:42] <silvertip257> wols_ idk exactly what it is ... but it's onboard video (port onthe mobo)
[07:42] <Cotton-swab> wols_: a) ontopic B) it is a card
[07:42] <wols_> silvertip257: what chipset is your mobo?
[07:43] <lesodk> Hey, how do i move my root/system folder to another drive?
[07:43] <lesodk> and is it possible?
[07:43] <preaction> !paste | shadowhywind, pastebin the output of your vmstat
[07:43] <ubotu> shadowhywind, pastebin the output of your vmstat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <wols_> Cotton-swab: intel 740?
[07:43] <jetscreamer> there is a setting in some bios to select the onboard or offboard as the primary display
[07:43] <dawn`chorus> colbert, it'd be easy to copy over, sure.  whether it'd work in feisty, well, that's what this is all about.  :)
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> Cotton-swab, its a card?
[07:43] <Cotton-swab> Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
[07:43] <wols_> wow, that's an old clunker
[07:43] <wols_> Cotton-swab: it is no card. it is mobo integrated
[07:43] <the_undefined> preaction: Gives me ":0.0" when running it on the ubuntu terminal, an nothing when doing it via SSH
[07:43] <welemski> does anyone knows a good player for divx in mozilla?
[07:43] <jetscreamer> lesodk: boot a live cd and cp -a , change fstab menu.lst if needed, boot away
[07:43] <Music_Shuffle> wols_, *thought so*.  Thanks for saving me a google :D
[07:43] <silvertip257> wols_ don't know specifics ... its an intel chipset though
[07:43] <jetscreamer> mozilla-mplayer
[07:43] <welemski> vlc, totem,gmplayer is bad
[07:44] <welemski> mplayer is bad
[07:44] <preaction> the_undefined: so :0.0 is your display
[07:44] <shadowhywind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26757/
[07:44] <soundray> Halai: it works here. Which client are you using?
[07:44] <welemski> out of sync
[07:44] <silvertip257> wols_  I should really just take a trip out to my lab & get back on out there
[07:44] <Cotton-swab> wols_: ohhh, well, does that mean it can only be overclocked from the bios
[07:44] <wols_> silvertip257: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. choose ati or rage, dunno which
[07:44] <silvertip257> ok ty wols_
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> Cotton-swab, err...you...can't...
[07:44] <colbert> dawn`chorus: lol, true :) well i will give it a shot tonight.. thanks for your help, much appreciated :)
[07:44] <Cotton-swab> oh
[07:44] <wols_> Cotton-swab: if at all. how do you OC it on the BIOS?
[07:44] <dawn`chorus> colbert, right on.  hope all goes well.
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> wols_, he left.  But I was curious about his logic there too
[07:44] <the_undefined> preaction: Ok, doing it on the ubuntu box works
[07:45] <Halai> soundray : like i said, its worked fine forever now. just started acting funny about two or three days ago. refuses to authenticate me anymore. i'm using terminal server on the local machine. tightvnc from other clients.
[07:45] <wols_> Music_Shuffle: what logic?
[07:45] <the_undefined> preaction: via ssh I get:  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:45] <the_undefined> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:45] <the_undefined> preaction: +: (firefox-bin:22328): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[07:45] <Music_Shuffle> wols_, overclocking something that...doesn't have the option to be.
[07:45] <Halai> soundray : it seems when i changed passwords, its been acting up
[07:45] <colissa_colored> dawn`chorus i'm not one network expert to but for what i have see around there so ... sometimes is bether protect very well the client to :)
[07:45] <pha|con> the_undefined: when you connect via ssh pass use the -XA option to be able to run X apps
[07:46] <wols_> Music_Shuffle: that is easy. nvidia didn't have options for that either yet there was nvclock and rivatuner. a k7s5a doesn't either, yet there were PLL reprogramming programs and modded BIOSes. etc
[07:46] <Halai> soundray this is my output from gconf.xml http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26758/
[07:46] <wols_> pha|con: that is for X forwarding via ssh. not what he wants
[07:46] <dawn`chorus> colissa_colored, yes.  i agree.  if I had a client, i'd take extra precautions too.
[07:46] <welemski> does compiz have a good gui for setting its options?
[07:47] <Music_Shuffle> wols_, those are still options though, just not intended ones.
[07:47] <pha|con> wols_: oh.  it's just that's exactly the error i get when i forget to use -XA
[07:47] <ferronica> Is there any problem doing manually upgrade k-torrent
[07:47] <shadowhywind> preactiooon see anything werid in that log?
[07:47] <wols_> colissa_colored: why do you need a firewall and is the firewwall in your startup scripts?
[07:47] <god> hi guys i have a problem with ubuntu i can't solve for three days now :( can any one pls help?!
[07:47] <colissa_colored> wols_ to protect the client side ...
[07:47] <wols_> pha|con: tbh I rarely if ever do what he says so you might be right
[07:48] <wols_> colissa_colored: what client side?
[07:48] <welemski> i didn't know god has problems... just kid
[07:48] <colissa_colored> wols_ my personal desktop whith ubuntu linux operating system
[07:48] <wols_> !ask | god
[07:48] <ubotu> god: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:48] <wols_> colissa_colored: again: why?
[07:48] <god> key...my problem is with the adsl connection...
[07:48] <wols_> colissa_colored: what special protection?
[07:48] <pha|con> wols_: :)  i use ssh from work everyday with X11 forwarding cause of the stupid firewall we have here, so I've learned quite a bit about ssh + X11
[07:48] <god> i configure it...and it works for 5 seconds
[07:49] <god> and than shuts down :(
[07:49] <god> when i connect through wireless it works fine
[07:49] <welemski> your computer shuts down?
[07:49] <wols_> pha|con: he wants to display the X app on the host that his sshd runs. not the hsot that his ssh client runs...
[07:49] <god> pls help
[07:49] <soundray> Halai: compare with mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26759/
[07:49] <welemski> god: your computer shuts down?
[07:49] <ferronica> Is there any problem doing manually upgrade k-torrent ?
[07:49] <wols_> god: syslog and dmesg output
[07:49] <god> nope
[07:49] <colissa_colored> wols_ nathing spetial just normal security ...
[07:49] <god> the internet shuts down n doesn't work for 2-3 minutes
[07:49] <wols_> colissa_colored: you don't have any security with a firewall you don't understand
[07:49] <god> than it is back on for 2 seconds
[07:50] <god> n it repeats...
[07:50] <Halai> soundray : what is mtime?
[07:50] <god> it is the same for 2 different computers
[07:50] <wols_> colissa_colored: close your external ports (sudo netstat -anp |grep LISTEN) that's all you need and can do
[07:50] <colissa_colored> wols_ i don`t have any more security using one firewall?
[07:50] <Mandorallen> wha?
[07:50] <soundray> Halai: modification time, I suppose
[07:50] <wols_> colissa_colored: no. not if you know what you're doing with that firewall
[07:50] <welemski> god: are you runing fiesty?
[07:50] <elmo_> How can I get non-threaded Perl for ubuntu desktop?  Trying mod_perl for apache2 having troubles with threads
[07:50] <wols_> colissa_colored: pastebin the output of that command I typed
[07:50] <god> i am running ubuntu april edition 2007
[07:50] <god> syslog and dmesg output how do i get this?
[07:50] <welemski> in terminal
[07:51] <welemski> god: terminal
[07:51] <Halai> soundray : i'm gonna replace your settings with mine and see if it helps.
[07:51] <wols_>  /var/log/syslog and dmesg
[07:51] <dyrne> god: by down you mean if you ping in ipaddress continuously it will fail for a few min then start working again?
[07:51] <colissa_colored> wols_ man just closing the doors ... is one good idea :)
[07:51] <wols_> colissa_colored: yes. you do that by closing ports. not by using a firewall
[07:51] <soundray> Halai: okay... but I cannot see a reason why it would
[07:51] <wols_> colissa_colored: this is not windows
[07:51] <god> i click a website, it loads...than i press the link form it and it says  it can't load it...
[07:52] <wols_> colissa_colored: so will you do what I asked you?
[07:52] <pha|con> wols_: he may want to do this then, i think from within the ssh session:  OLDDISPLY=$DISPLY  then  DISPLAY=:0.0
[07:52] <mobutu> so no one knows wifi-radar would start giving me bizarre python errors instead of starting ?
[07:52] <god> it is always like this...the first website always loads...but when i switch to another it stops
[07:52] <pha|con> then try running it, should come up on the sshd's local display
[07:52] <wols_> mobutu: what errors?
[07:52] <welemski> your ISP might have problems...
[07:52] <pha|con> wols_: then when he's done DISPLAY=$OLDDISPLAY
[07:52] <god> ok...i am confused...
[07:53] <wols_> pha|con: it's a separate ssh session. no DISPLAY set. also he alread set DISPLAY=0.0
[07:53] <wols_> god: will you do what I asked you?
[07:53] <colissa_colored> wols_ i know but even like this ... i think is good one firewall ... like i say i see more desktops bee ataked then server been ataked ... because the server can be ataked from the client side so betherhave one firewall thtadon`t haveit unless we have some realy extra securitys there andknow whatim doing butlikeim not securitylinux expert bether i dont take one chance
[07:53] <god> i will
[07:53] <pha|con> wols_: was it DISPLAY=:0.0 or DISPLAY=0.0
[07:54] <god> can we go to private messaging...i am afraid to miss some posts :(
[07:54] <pha|con> has to be the former for it to work
[07:54] <mobutu> wols_: instead of starting it get Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:54] <mobutu>   File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1414, in <module>
[07:54] <mobutu>     auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )
[07:54] <jetscreamer> jsut do whatever wols says
[07:54] <Halai> soundray: it seems that i can connect from localhost
[07:54] <jetscreamer> and try /lastlog wols_
[07:54] <Halai> soundray: do you mind if i message you and you try connecting from your side?
[07:54] <elmo_> How can I get non-threaded Perl for ubuntu desktop?  Trying mod_perl for apache2 having troubles with threads
[07:54] <soundray> Halai: go ahead
[07:55] <wols_> god: you can do what you want, I won't go PM
[07:55] <wols_> mobutu: FULL error
[07:55] <wols_> mobutu: including your commandline. pastebin
[07:55] <zendo> Hi. When I visit some flash contents in FireFox during it and after while FireFox still runs there is no sound (for example "Rythmbox" or "mpg321" cannot play mp3 files). Is there a solution to this problem?
[07:55] <oscartorre> hola
[07:55] <wols_> zendo: dmix
[07:55] <mobutu> wols_: http://pastebin.ca/584267
[07:56] <god> wols.. ok can u pls tell me here what to do?
[07:56] <zendo> wols_: can you please tell me more than that?
[07:56] <rogeriodiv> alguem pode me ajudar a conectar no xchat?
[07:57] <wols_> dmix is a software mixer. another reason could be that those other programs and firefox-flash use /dev/dsp
[07:57] <wols_> !es | rock_
[07:57] <ubotu> rock_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:57] <wols_> doh. he's gone
[07:57] <rogeriodiv> Alguem pode me ajudar a conectar no Xchat?
[07:57] <god> wols...
[07:58] <paolob> Hi guys! I have a Plustek OpticPro 4830P scanner, and this page http://www.gjaeger.de/scanner/plustek_pp/ says it is usable in linux. However, I need some help in order to understand: do I need to recompile the kernel or what? any hint about what should I do? thank you!
[07:58] <CheshireViking> !br | rogeriodiv
[07:58] <zendo> wols_: I'm using AMD64 version of ubuntu 7.04 and in repository there is no packacge called dmix
[07:58] <ubotu> rogeriodiv: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:59] <rogeriodiv> ok
[07:59] <sn0> paolob is it parallel port or usb printer?
[07:59] <zendo> wols_: I see that it is ALSA plugin, but where can I find it and how to enable it?
[07:59] <paolob> sn0, parallel
[07:59] <wols_> paolob: no kernel recompile. you need a SANE backend driver
[07:59] <wols_> zendo: I was under the impression ubuntu had it by default
[07:59] <Jzege> Hi. Does anyone know what might cause a "not enough memory" error when trying to copy a disc image onto the hdd? (using brasero)
[08:00] <wols_> zendo: maybe check if your other music programs all use /dev/dsp
[08:00] <paolob> wols_, the page I indicated gives some sources, but I can't understand well what I should do
[08:00] <lebies> hi folks, can someone please point me to a definitive howto/guide (preferably with in-depth explanation) on bind9, on feisty?
[08:00] <sn0> paolob maybe check the forum for that scanner model
[08:00] <god> wols_ pls help me :'(
[08:00] <wols_> !scanner
[08:00] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:00] <wols_> !scanner  | paolob
[08:00] <ubotu> paolob: please see above
[08:00] <am_> hallo mari
[08:01] <wols_> god: I told you long ago
[08:01] <mari> ola
[08:01] <wols_> god: you choose to ignore it
[08:01] <elmo_> How can I get non-threaded Perl for ubuntu desktop?  Trying mod_perl for apache2 having troubles with threads
[08:01] <god> i was jumping from one window to another, i probably missed... :(
[08:01] <zendo> wols_: I cannot chech that in every program because there are no options for that in them, but all programms that need to output sound (Amarok, Ryhtmbox, mpg321...) dont work.
[08:02] <Paradox> hi, I was hoping someone could help me. I've just used a auto installer called XAMPP to install LAMP and so on.
[08:02] <metbsd> how do i check what video card i have?
[08:02] <puff> zendo: hm, I had that problem and it turned out I was running both alsa and esd.
[08:02] <wols_> zendo: you have programs to check. fuser and lsof
[08:02] <god> wols u mean this "/var/log/syslog and dmesg " ?
[08:02] <wols_> god: yes
[08:03] <Paradox> it all worked fine and the services are running. however the files were extracted as root (as told in the manual for installing), and it seems to have put the htdocs folder in the install dir which only root has access to.
[08:03] <god> wols_ i type this inside the terminal right?
[08:03] <Paradox> can anyone help?
[08:03] <soundray> metbsd: 'lspci | grep -i vga' should tell you. If not, lspci and go through all lines.
[08:04] <zendo> wols_: esd isnt running
[08:04] <wols_> zendo: did I ask that?
[08:04] <afie> Where can i find the emul-linux-x86-soundlibs package??
[08:04] <wols_> afie: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <connolly_> wild... irc: links work by default in ubuntu.
[08:05] <zendo> wols_: sorry puff did
[08:05] <metbsd> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:05] <Paradox> help? please?
[08:05] <Paradox> any one?
[08:05] <metbsd> this is the card, what should i select in xorg
[08:05] <god> wols_ it says permission denied :(
[08:05] <soundray> metbsd: i810
[08:05] <wols_> god: I know. use suodo to look at it
[08:05] <zendo> wols_: anyways what were you saying about "fuser" and "lsof", what exactly do I need to check?
[08:05] <wols_> zendo: you need to check /dev/dsp of course
[08:06] <wols_> and any /dev/dns/*
[08:06] <wols_>  /dev/snd/*
[08:06] <Andeh> Hello
[08:06] <Andeh> Beagle is really lagging my PC. How do i turn indexing off?
[08:07] <zendo> wols_: I'
[08:07] <zendo> wols_: I'll try that, thanks.
[08:07] <Andeh> How do i turn beagle indexing off, and can i not just disable starting but turn it off NOW?
[08:07] <god> wols_ it says command not found :(
[08:07] <god> wols_what shall i do?
[08:08] <puff> god: Try sudo
[08:08] <god> puff __ sudo followed by what?
[08:08] <wols_> syslog is a file fo you to look at pnd paste its contents to a pastebin, dmesg is a program
[08:09] <puff> god: sounds like you're a beginner.  okay, so you understand how to look at a text file's contents?
[08:09] <soundray> Andeh: perhaps 'sudo /etc/init.d/beagle* stop'
[08:09] <puff> wols_: what is god looking for?
[08:09] <darkmarby> !beagle
[08:09] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[08:09] <wols_> puff: syslog and dmesg output
[08:09] <Andeh> soundray: Ok, how do I stop it starting in the first place?
[08:09] <supremesonic> puff, shouldn't you use rm -d file for that :P
[08:10] <soundray> Andeh: has this worked?
[08:10] <puff> wols_: I meant, what's he looking for in syslog and dmesg?
[08:10] <elmo_> How can I get non-threaded Perl for ubuntu desktop?  Trying mod_perl for apache2 having troubles with threads
[08:10] <soundray> Andeh: if it has, try 'sudo update-rc.d beagle remove'
[08:10] <Andeh> sudo: /etc/init.d/beagle*: command not found
[08:10] <Andeh> lol no hasnt worked
[08:10] <wols_> pppd or pppoe cmessages
[08:10] <puff> wols_: Gotcher.
[08:10] <god> puff_ i started 3 days ago... i got everything running except for adsl ... internet works only through wifi... when i connect though wire, it only loads the first page, and than the net shut's down
[08:10] <wols_> Andeh: dpkg -L beagle
[08:11] <puff> god: Okay, so, step one, you look at a text file with "less filename"
[08:11] <wols_> god: so you use a router?
[08:11] <god> puff_ can we talk in private...pls ?
[08:11] <wols_> puff: looks more like a rth* problem
[08:11] <wols_> puff: eth*
[08:11] <wols_> god: pastebin the dmesg output please
[08:11] <wols_> !pm
[08:11] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:12] <god> wols i have run dmesg... what am i looking for?
[08:12] <soundray> Andeh: it seems to be /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system that starts it. Move this file to a location of your choice, or delete if you know what you're doing.
[08:12] <Ande2> That resulted in lots of lines
[08:12] <god> puff _ less filename ? where do i find that?
[08:12] <Ande2> loads of folders etc
[08:12] <puff> wols_: Hm, maybe I should write up a tutorial for shell basics for #ubuntu newbies :-).
[08:12] <Andeh> lol
[08:12] <god> wols i use a adsl modem
[08:12] <puff> god: nevermind, wols_ thinks the problem is elsewhere.
[08:13] <god> wol okey gimmi a minute
[08:13] <Andeh> So, um, what am i supposed to do now?
[08:13] <hypo> Hi, I've installed and am trying to use the JDK v1.6 but when I type java -version into the console it gives me 1.4.2 instead.  What can I do to get the latest version working?
[08:13] <wols_> god: not if you can coonnect to it via wireless and wired. do you use pppoe?
[08:13] <necro> i still don't have the right resolution
[08:13] <Andeh> I typed dpkg -L beagle...
[08:13] <wols_> !java | hypo
[08:13] <supremesonic> hyp, use update-alternatives
[08:13] <ubotu> hypo: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:13] <endo> !partition | endo
[08:13] <wols_> !fixres | necro
[08:13] <ubotu> necro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <endo> !GParted | endo
[08:14] <supremesonic> !sexytux
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexytux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <necro> i have followed those guide, same shit
[08:14] <vzduch> !evolution
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <rockets> Anybody know how to use a USB headset with wine?
[08:17] <Andeh> Ok, anyone here know how to stop beagle now? AND stop it starting in the future
[08:17] <supremesonic> what would people suggest to use as develop environment(in console/text based mode) for java? I normally use netbeans.
[08:17] <soundray> Andeh: I told you
[08:17] <endo> how do I go about dealing with .daa files?
[08:17] <soundray> Andeh: it seems to be /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system that starts it. Move this file to a location of your choice, or delete if you know what you're doing.
[08:17] <wols_> endo: you don't. copyirhg infringement is illegal
[08:17] <wols_> *copyright
[08:17] <wols_> supremesonic: eclipse?
[08:18] <NeXtDaY> hi all
[08:18] <wols_> supremesonic: those two are youre main choices
[08:18] <wols_> supremesonic: besides the usual suespects like vi, emacs, etc
[08:18] <supremesonic> wols_, I mean for console, like vim, nano, emacs, or other maybes?
[08:18] <Andeh> soundray: Ok. How do i STOP it now?
[08:18] <soundray> Andeh: find out its process ID with top and run 'kill processid'
[08:18] <NeXtDaY> can I log the terminal? any help, please
[08:19] <supremesonic> wols_ I thought that someone made a tool specially for java programming in console mode. I guess I was wrong?
[08:19] <Andeh> soundray: ok, how do I scroll down the list in top?
[08:19] <wols_> supremesonic: I don't know of any. but emacs is pretty much an IDE for any thing if configured proeprly .)
[08:19] <wols_> vim too I guess
[08:19] <supremesonic> wols
[08:20] <supremesonic> wols_ I like vim, I find emacs very hard to work with :S
[08:20] <soundray> Andeh: you don't. If beagle is running, it'll appear on top
[08:20] <necro> i'm configuring my monitor vert/hori refresh rate
[08:20] <persica> supremesonic: There are packages to make both Vim and Emacs into a pretty good IDE (tab completion and integrated building for example)
[08:20] <hypo> I took a look at the alternatives section and I think its working now, thanks wols_ supremesonic
[08:20] <greyfrog> soundray, Andeh try ps ax | grep beagle
[08:20] <Andeh> soundray: Ok, the only beagle one is "beagled-helper" or something, and i kill it but it keeps starting
[08:20] <wols_> supremesonic: that's fine. use it then
[08:20] <necro> but i don't have monitorrange in ddprobe
[08:20] <persica> supremesonic: w00t vim!
[08:20] <wols_> necro: what kind of monitor is it?
[08:20] <soundray> Andeh: try greyfrog's suggestion then
[08:21] <Andeh> andy@andy-laptop:~$ ps ax | grep beagle
[08:21] <Andeh> 10254 ?        Sl     0:01 beagle-search --debug /usr/lib/beagle/Search.exe --icon
[08:21] <Andeh> 10264 ?        Sl     0:04 beagled /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --replace --bg
[08:21] <Andeh> 11259 ?        SNl    9:48 beagled-helper /usr/lib/beagle/IndexHelper.exe
[08:21] <Andeh> 11897 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep beagle
[08:21] <zendo> When I visit some java applet in FireFox that needs to output sound, "java_vm" ties the /dev/dsp so no other app can reproduce sound, and I cannot "kill" it since it will terminate FireFox also. How can I prevent this from happening?
[08:21] <wols_> Andeh: why not just uninstall beagle?
[08:21] <greyfrog> Andeh, kill 10264
[08:21] <supremesonic> persica, can you give me some names on packages for make java developing in vim ?
[08:21] <soundray> Andeh: do not paste
[08:21] <Andeh> soundray: It beats typing
[08:22] <Pici> Andeh: thats what the pastebin is for, please use it.
[08:22] <necro> wols_: it's acer aspire notebook
[08:22] <greyfrog> !paste | Andeh if you must paste
[08:22] <ubotu> Andeh if you must paste: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:22] <god> wols_ shall i  paste it here?
[08:22] <soundray> Andeh: it can get you kicked here
[08:22] <Andeh> a 4 line text is not large, but fine...
[08:22] <Pici> Andeh: it is when it wraps.
[08:22] <wols_> !paste | god
[08:22] <ubotu> god: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:22] <supremesonic> kick
[08:22] <persica> supremesonic: I've never actually set it up for java, just heard about it.
[08:22] <Andeh> Nice community kicking people
[08:23] <Andeh> Pici: Lol. You running off an ipod?
[08:23] <soundray> Andeh: the rule is: no pasting. Bend it at your own risk.
[08:23] <supremesonic> persica, guess I gonna google my way, thanks anyway :)
[08:23] <Andeh> soundray: Ok, beagled helper started again...
[08:23] <NeXtDaY> can I log the terminal? any help, please .. sorry for repeating!
[08:23] <necro> wols_: any suggestion?
[08:23] <god> Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
[08:23] <Andeh> Oh damn this, i'll just uninstall the crappy thing
[08:23] <Andeh> I never use it anyway lol
[08:23] <god> wols_ it doesn't let me paste it here :(
[08:24] <persica> supremesonic: Yeah, that's all I'd be doing at this point to help.  You've customized vim before?
[08:24] <Pici> Andeh: system> administration> services
[08:24] <god> wols_ it lets me paste only the first line :(
[08:24] <zendo> Anyone please?
[08:24] <wols_> necro: then refresh rate doesn't matter. you can't change it anyways. it's 50-60Hz depending on panel. that's it
[08:24] <supremesonic> persica, never, just started using it since my friend said I was n00b using nano :D
[08:24] <persica> supremesonic: It has a learning curve, but it's worth it in my opinion.
[08:24] <wols_> god:  you DON't paste it here.. see the ubuto facrtoid
[08:25] <necro> wols_: but i need the 1280x800 resolution, i always get 1024x748
[08:25] <wols_> necro: how are you configure your resolutions. what are you doing?
[08:25] <supremesonic> persica, yea me2. The only exception is when you come on a new system or installing a new system my keyboard is a danish one so I can't find the ":" so I can't do anything in it.
[08:25] <god> wols_ i am running from window right now...ubuntu is on  the other pc///internetless
[08:25] <necro> FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:25] <wols_> necro: and what videochaip and what driver do you use?
[08:26] <tovella> zendo: i went back and looked at the problem you posted...  i think there'
[08:26] <god> wols
[08:26] <maek> im trying to install acroread via aptitude and its saying no candidate version found, and it has a c next to it in aptitude search acroread. any ideas? thanks.
[08:26] <god> wols_ i use ppp0
[08:26] <wols_> god: I don#t care. unless w can see the output I doubt we can help you
[08:26] <wols_> *we
[08:26] <neverblue> what uses [08:26] <ash__> Anyone know why K3B lags HARDCORE on my system?
[08:26] <Mc5iv1> what does it mean when my SATA Hd starts making clicking noise's which then freeze's the pc ???
[08:26] <tovella> zendo: ...there's a chance that installing pulseaudio might fix this.
[08:26] <neverblue> ash__, run it in a shell?
[08:26] <wols_> neverblue: php iirc
[08:26] <rockets> What package do I need to install to get wine to use jack?
[08:26] <neverblue> php does?
[08:26] <neverblue> k
[08:27] <wols_> Mc5iv1: dead harddisk?
[08:27] <greyfrog> Mc5iv1, dying harddrive :(
[08:27] <ash__> neverblue, I have tried that... I didnt see anything majorly wierd?
[08:27] <neverblue> lagging, how then?
[08:27] <persica> supremesonic: Oops.  That's an interestng predicament.  I'm not sure where you'd remap that key, but I'm sure it could be done.  Oh, and maybe http://eclim.sourceforge.net/ is the sort of thing you're looking for?
[08:27] <stefg> !seveas | maek
[08:27] <ubotu> maek: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:27] <wols_> Mc5iv1: use smartmontools
[08:28] <necro> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:28] <maek> stefg: thanks
[08:28] <necro> that's my video card
[08:28] <Mc5iv1> wols_: um whats that?
[08:28] <wols_> Mc5iv1: a package
[08:28] <crdlb> !info 915resolution | necro
[08:28] <Mc5iv1> greyfrog:  that doesnt sound very good
[08:28] <wols_> !info smartmontools
[08:28] <ash__> neverblue, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26765/
[08:28] <ubotu> necro: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[08:28] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[08:28] <solar> anybody recall the option to pass on the boot cmdline when installing from the 6.06 iso as to not invoke framebuffer? debian-installer=something.
[08:28] <wols_> necro: what driver do you use?
[08:28] <ash__> neverblue, could it be the kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KActionCollection::operator+=(): function is severely deprecated.
[08:29] <greyfrog> Mc5iv1, nope, sorry man... try looking into the smartmontools that wols suggested
[08:29] <wols_> solar: nofb I think. also vga=normal
[08:29] <solar> wols_: thank you
[08:29] <ash__> I dont know what that means... but... severely depreciated sounds bad..?
[08:29] <necro> 815
[08:29] <wols_> ash__: warning. ignore it
[08:29] <wols_> necro: does not exist. do you mean i810?
[08:30] <necro> yes
[08:30] <Mc5iv1> greyfrog: what am i lookin out for on that? i am very new to this Ubuntu thing
[08:30] <ash__> :(
[08:30] <lesshaste> I am trying to install skype from the repo but I get The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[08:30] <lesshaste>   skype: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.12) but 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[08:30] <lesshaste> etc.
[08:30] <lesshaste> I am on edgy
[08:30] <ash__> So any ideas on what I can do to fix it... or another good CD Burning program with a gui?
[08:30] <crdlb> necro, just: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[08:30] <wols_> lesshaste: you need feisty probably
[08:30] <necro> i already did, what's next step?
[08:30] <wols_> !info libasound2
[08:30] <ubotu> libasound2: ALSA library. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.13-1ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 348 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[08:31] <supremesonic2> my acer computer suck :( theres a little contact to turn of the wireless on the front of the laptop and I keep hitting it accidently....
[08:31] <supremesonic2> ffs
[08:31] <greyfrog> !language | supremesonic2
[08:31] <ubotu> supremesonic2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:31] <necro> crdlb: what's next?
[08:31] <Tremitos> yo
[08:31] <lesshaste> wolki, ah.. time to upgrade
[08:31] <Tremitos> tell me
[08:31] <lesshaste> ?
[08:31] <tomd123> supremesonic2, i have that kind of switch on my vaio laptop but its actually the opposite, its hard to turn it off
[08:31] <supremesonic2> greyfrog, it was only a short for a word :(
[08:32] <crdlb> necro, it should add itself to boot, so just reboot I guess
[08:32] <supremesonic2> tomd123, I wish I had it there, I never turn it of anywys
[08:32] <tomd123> same
[08:32] <Elfboy> what would i need to get opengl on ubuntu
[08:32] <tomd123> the only reason i would turn it off is to save battery...
[08:33] <persica> I haven't figured out a good use for those when you can disable the wireless in the OS.   Does it really do that much when it's not in use but not turned off?
[08:33] <Mc5iv1> wols_: hey i jst installed that package, how i launch it?
[08:33] <necro> it works
[08:33] <god> wol_ i am back... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26766/
[08:33] <supremesonic2> maybe 10minuts I think
[08:33] <Elfboy> !opengl
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <god> wol_what do u think?
[08:33] <stefg> Elfboy: a video card and driver that supports that
[08:33] <Elfboy> lol i have one
[08:33] <supremesonic2> !gl
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <persica> elfboy: Any package that needs opengl should install the gl libraries.
[08:34] <necro> without coming to this channel or that guy who told me, i will never be able to fix this shit
[08:34] <Elfboy> ROfl
[08:34] <Elfboy> i know the felling
[08:34] <wols_> Mc5iv1: /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/. read it
[08:34] <tomd123> persica, it has to waste energy because its on, the only other reason i can think of if its used by hackers B-/
[08:34] <Mc5iv1> wols_:  thanks m8 will hav look now
[08:34] <wols_> Elfboy: which videocard?
[08:34] <Elfboy> but if if dont can i still install the opengl
[08:34] <lesshaste> upgrading to feisty
[08:35] <supremesonic2> I find it very hard to connect to a wireless internet with TKIP/psk encryption. Every tutorial I find doesn't seem to work :(
[08:35] <supremesonic2> however the ubuntu gui is doing it all for me,
[08:35] <wols_> Elfboy: you can use software rendered opengl yes. slow and ugly tho
[08:35] <lety> olitas
[08:35] <god> wols_ were u able to open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26766/ ?
[08:35] <kismet> whats a decent html editior ?
[08:35] <Elfboy> ok some of the game i have dont run fast now
[08:35] <Elfboy> :)
[08:35] <Elfboy> i have a gforce5500
[08:35] <tomd123> kismet, vi?
[08:35] <Flannel> kismet: any text editor will work fine (and most, if not all, do syntax highlighting)
[08:35] <maek> can anyone help me with installing acroread, its telling me it cant find it but I can see it with aptitude serach: http://pastebin.ca/584349 thanks.
[08:36] <kismet> i am sorry
[08:36] <kismet> should've been more specific
[08:36] <lety> ablar en espaol
[08:36] <kismet> a gui based one
[08:36] <Flannel> !es | lety
[08:36] <ubotu> lety: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:36] <necro> is there utility to format a partition during installation?
[08:36] <persica> kismet: Try Kate.
[08:36] <persica> kismet: or bluefish
[08:36] <kismet> persica, thank you
[08:36] <wols_> god: we need syslog output sudo grep ppp /var/log/syslog
[08:36] <persica> kismet: Kate is a more general text editor.  Bluefish is deisgned for HTML specifically.
[08:36] <wols_> necro: yes
[08:36] <supremesonic2> !dk
[08:36] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[08:36] <Flannel> kismet: nvu is no longer in the repos, you can use Kompozer (which is nvu + updates): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer
[08:36] <supremesonic2> sweeet!
[08:36] <stefg> necro: formatting during install is obligatory, so don't worry
[08:36] <Elfboy> lol
[08:37] <wols_> !nvidia | Elfboy
[08:37] <ubotu> Elfboy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <NeXtDaY> again: can I log the terminal? any help, please .. sorry for repeating!
[08:37] <supremesonic2> elfboy, nvidia-glx did it all for me, and for all of my nvidia graphic cards.
[08:37] <dnbc722> Can anyone tell me where the best repo to get kiba-dock is?
[08:37] <necro> but it stop me from installing now, cuz one ext3 there
[08:37] <wols_> !info kiba-dock
[08:37] <ubotu> Package kiba-dock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <Elfboy> pl
[08:37] <persica> I think elfboy has an intel integrated card.  Never fonigured one of those...
[08:37] <SinnerG> all hail :P
[08:37] <SinnerG> switching to ubuntu this evening ^^
[08:37] <SinnerG> bye windoze :p
[08:38] <persica> Congrats, SinnerG.
[08:38] <wols_> necro: better description please
[08:38] <supremesonic2> intergrated card is very very very very bad!
[08:38] <stefg> necro: what are you trying atm?
[08:38] <SinnerG> well dont gz me just yet .. ;p
[08:38] <SinnerG> I once used ubuntu for half a year, then I switched back pff ;p
[08:38] <wols_> supremesonic2: yes. at least for gaming. office stuff is fine usually
[08:38] <necro> trying to install on desktop
[08:38] <supremesonic2> wols_ minesweeper for the win!
[08:38] <wols_> necro: make some empty unpartitioned space on the harddisk, the installer will do the rest
[08:38] <paulina> w
[08:39] <wols_> supremesonic2: as I said: office stuff is fine. minesweepere is therefore fine
[08:39] <Elfboy> thanks for the info
[08:39] <Ravenndude`> lol
[08:39] <supremesonic2> wols_ minesweeper = game :)
[08:39] <stefg> necro: so you chose manual partitioning, right? have you set the checkbox on format for the root-partition?
[08:39] <SinnerG> that gets played on offices :p
[08:39] <supremesonic2> wols_ very uber leet graphic needed for minesweeper :D
[08:39] <SinnerG> my work prefers patience (the card-game)
[08:39] <wols_> supremesonic2: no. it#s an office productiveity app. prevents people from going insane. gteat productivity booser that
[08:39] <SinnerG> :P
[08:39] <supremesonic2> wols_ im just kidding :)
[08:40] <supremesonic2> !vimjde
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vimjde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <necro> ah.... no wonder
[08:40] <supremesonic2> I just found vim jde, development environtment for java/c++ very sweet
[08:40] <god> wols_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26767/
[08:40] <krismer> hola
[08:41] <duro> hi
[08:41] <god> wols_ thanks a lot for the help by the way :D
[08:41] <DirigibleMan> I've pored over the forums, asked for help on #alsa, tried what seems like every possible combination of settings, and still have no input of any type from my microphone, in any number of programs.  I have an ICH4 card, running the Intel8X0 driver.  Any troubleshooting advice?
[08:41] <krismer> hey?
[08:41] <stefg> supremesonic2: c++ , java and the term /vrey nice/ don't go along well in one sentence :-)
[08:41] <dnbc722> I can't seem to make my scanner work. Xsane has a backend for it but I don't know how to install it
[08:41] <Ravenndude`> supremesonic2, how is it better than plain old vim?
[08:41] <krismer> how are you duro?
[08:41] <dedi> can i list my folders and show the folder size?
[08:41] <supremesonic2> stefg, what do you mean?
[08:42] <supremesonic2> Ravenndude, its a patch you use on vim.
[08:42] <titof49> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[08:42] <titof49> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[08:42] <persica> DirigibleMan: have you set up an .amixer file (or whatever the .a* file is your home directory?)
[08:42] <supremesonic2> ravenndude, patch or plugin whatever you wanna call it :)
[08:42] <duro> goo, and u krismer
[08:42] <wols_> god: before you start any new ppp connection, STOP the old ones first. you only want pppp0
[08:42] <stefg> supremesonic2: just joking about java and c++ .... never mind
[08:42] <Jester_> hello
[08:42] <ferronica> when ubuntu will  update k-torrent ?
[08:42] <Ravenndude`> supremesonic2,  graphical vim, or command line?
[08:42] <cpcarey> september 07
[08:42] <DirigibleMan> persica: no .amixer file
[08:42] <NeXtDaY> what is the program that can help me designing webpages like microsoft front page ?
[08:42] <Jester_> What driver should I use for my graphic card (SiS650 VxD AGP)?
[08:42] <krismer> fine . where are you?
[08:42] <supremesonic2> stefg, I love java, and I love c++ most perfectly languages ever :)
[08:43] <god> wols_ i have no other connections on that pc ... i installed the sys from scratch...than i only configured adsl
[08:43] <kiwi_> question: has anybody with an audigy2 zs platinum pro got the external bay working with feisty?
[08:43] <supremesonic2> ravenndude, I hope for the last, I haven't tested it yet :)
[08:43] <Ravenndude`> ahhhh
[08:43] <wols_> god: it more looks like a modem hardware or ISP issue. but I still donw't get how you can connect via wireless to it. also, your 2nd PC you have, is it connected to the internt too when you use ppp?
[08:43] <persica> DirigibleMan: I remember configuring my input a year or two ago and having to mess with some alsa settings via a file in my home directory to get it to work.  let me see if I can find a link.
[08:43] <DirigibleMan> I've looked into using a .asoundrc file
[08:43] <god> wols_ it is the same problem on 2 computers :(
[08:43] <krismer> hey duro where are you?
[08:43] <alecjw> Jester_, sis i think
[08:43] <DirigibleMan> thanks persica
[08:43] <wols_> god: are both computers connected via ppp?
[08:43] <Jester_> thanks..
[08:44] <scorp123> Hi all
[08:44] <Jester> <_<
[08:44] <pi3> does Ubuntu automatically block a certain IP if a DoS (excessive pings) is detected?
[08:44] <god> wols_ maybe i messed things up?!  2 computers are conected seperately ( i only have one cable to go to internet )
[08:44] <wols_> p1ls: no
[08:44] <persica> DirigibleMan: Ah, it's called .asoundrc.  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php
[08:44] <duro> krismer private
[08:44] <wols_> god: are both computers connected via that ppp connection on that modem?
[08:44] <dedi> can i list my folders and show the folder size?
[08:44] <wols_> god: at the same time?
[08:44] <p1ls> wols_, what
[08:45] <dedi> la --help
[08:45] <Jester_> alecjw: I got drivers for Windows 98, Me & XP. And I want to use Linux
[08:45] <wols_> pi3: no
[08:45] <persica> DirigibleMan: You know where you'd probably find a lot of good info on this?  The Cedega forums at transgaming.org.
[08:45] <krismer> how? i new... i dont know
[08:45] <wols_> p1ls: p1ls is so similar tp pi3 :(
[08:45] <alecjw> Jester_, do you know how to set the driver?
[08:45] <p1ls> ;-p
[08:45] <Jester_> I think so
[08:45] <necro> so i have a radeon 7000 ati card, will opengl work ?
[08:45] <god> wols_ the only way i was able to go to internet through ubuntu... i set up a network in windows, so that the win PC is connected to internet and others connect through this win PC through wireless to internet...than i used ubuntu pc to connect to win wireless...and internet worked perfectly with no config ...
[08:45] <wols_> necro: yes. with the "ati" driver already in ubuntu
[08:46] <duro> krismer you got at the left column channel name and my nic
[08:46] <duro> nick
[08:46] <pi3> wols_: ??, does firestarter?
[08:46] <duro> click at my nick
[08:46] <alecjw> Jester_, then set it to sis. im not sure if its available in feisty and earlier. if you dont have sis/it doesnt work, try s3, s3virage, or as a last resort, vesa
[08:46] <god> wols_ yes, i am using the same connection right now, and it works perfectly with windows
[08:46] <scorp123> I am trying to boot the Ubuntu 7.04 (i386) Live CD on a system but I get this error: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" ... any suggestions?
[08:46] <wols_> god: yes. either that or use the ubuntu PC only to go tto the internet and connect the Windows PC to the ubuntu PC via 2nd network car din ubuntu or wireless
[08:47] <fiXXXerMet>  I've installed the wifi-radar package.  wifi-radar detects my network(s), though I do not have a "connect" option - only "disconnect".  "connected to None (IP address:  old.ip.from.ethernet) is at the bottom of the program.   Also, I can not delete or edit any of the found profiles.  This is in xubuntu, but they didn't have any answers over there.
[08:47] <wols_> god: and as soon as you use ubunut and the windows machine is still on you get problems?
[08:47] <pi3> scorp123: have you checked the CD integrity?
[08:47] <duro> is the xfce more light as gnome?
[08:47] <endo> wols_: the command " echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list" doesn't seem to be working for me. Do you know why?
[08:47] <god> wols_ but how i make it so that ubuntu pc goes to internet on its own? da solo ? with no other pc connected?
[08:47] <wols_> !automatix
[08:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:47] <scorp123> pi3: it's the same CD by which installed *this* laptop here (which I am using *right now* )
[08:47] <wols_> endo: we don't support automatix systems here
[08:47] <endo> ok :D
[08:47] <necro> can ubuntu replace windows xp?
[08:47] <fiXXXerMet> duro: Yeah, it is lighter.  Runs much faster (much faster) on my older laptop
[08:48] <wols_> god: does that give you the error when you do that?
[08:48] <duro> k, thx fiXXXerMet
[08:48] <jiliang> hello
[08:48] <dyrne> necro: pretty much
[08:48] <DirigibleMan> persica: I'll check those forums
[08:48] <pi3> scorp123: then I don't know
[08:48] <supremesonic2> necro, the question is more can windows replace ubuntu, and the answer is no.
[08:48] <fiXXXerMet> Or, can anyone recommend a wifi connection manager?
[08:48] <wols_> god: cause you said you had your problems with both. you can only have one PC connected directly to the internet. never both
[08:48] <scorp123> pi3: I tried to search the forums ... but this error seems to be very common out of very different reasons :-/
[08:48] <wols_> necro: it can. but it depends what you want
[08:49] <Flannel> endo: You're lucky it doesn't work.  You don't want automatix.  What are you looking to install?
[08:49] <scorp123> pi3: on the same PC that is affected by this error Win XP and OpenSUSE 10.2 are already installed ... so it can't be the hardware.
[08:49] <krismer> hola
[08:49] <wols_> just like windows can replace ubunutu in certain applications but no all
[08:50] <god> wols_ no no no... first i tried to connect to internet using my first pc...i failed... so i installed ubuntu an the other pc...but the same problem came up :( ubuntu just doesn't want to work with internet :( i am not connecting two pc's at the same time
[08:50] <wols_> god: well you said the windows pc worked on the internet. and you sais both PCs had the same error
[08:50] <god> wols_ i can only go to internet using windows... or connecting ubuntu pc to the windows pc using wifi
[08:50] <krismer> hey DURO TO RESPOND ME IN THE PRIVATE ONE
[08:51] <krismer> PLEASE
[08:51] <wols_> krismer: you are not identified to services and you cannot PM
[08:51] <dyrne> scorp123: the last thing you want is another forum link but.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588
[08:51] <Gnea> krismer: please stop yelling
[08:51] <supremesonic2> lol
[08:51] <wols_> krismer: use a private channel
[08:51] <scorp123> dyrne: no prob, I'll check it out too :)
[08:51] <Grenade> Question..I'm trying to get ubuntu server to boot from cd on an old compaq desktop. I can get feeebsd and debian to boot from cd but with ubuntu it just hangs there and eventually defaults to the hard drive.
[08:51] <krismer> HOW?
[08:51] <Gnea> krismer: turn off the caps lock
[08:52] <greyfrog> !caps | krismer
[08:52] <ubotu> krismer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:52] <god> wols_ ok i ll try to make it simple... there is only one PC and it doesn't connect to the internet for longer than 2 seconds, what shall i do?
[08:52] <necro> hehehe
[08:52] <pha|con> !easyubuntu > pha|con
[08:52] <wols_> krismer: /join channelname. let duro tell you a channel name in the PM
[08:52] <necro> so is there mplayer and firefox ?
[08:52] <Gnea> krismer: /msg nickserv help
[08:52] <wols_> necro: yes
[08:52] <supremesonic2> I feel CAPSLOCK WAR IS COMING :(
[08:52] <persica> Grenade: what do you mean by hanging?  Is it attempting to read the CD?
[08:52] <Flannel> Grenade: Sounds like a bad CD.  Have you tried it in other computers?
[08:52] <Grenade> yeah
[08:52] <krismer> OK SORRY
[08:52] <wols_> supremesonic2: stop that!
[08:52] <necro> and i want to install chinese fonts on kubuntu
[08:52] <krismer> sorry
[08:52] <Grenade> its trying to read the cd.
[08:52] <Grenade> sorry
[08:53] <wols_> !cn | necro
[08:53] <ubotu> necro: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:53] <persica> Grenade: As Flannel said it sounds like a bad burn.
[08:53] <Grenade> i forgot to add that it boots fine from my hp laptop
[08:53] <supremesonic> :(
[08:53] <Grenade> i checked md5 and the cd check in ubuntu
[08:53] <Flannel> Grenade: with your laptop, check the CD for defects (it's a menu entry)
[08:53] <Flannel> oh, one step ahead of me.
[08:53] <god> wols
[08:53] <BRPCubuntu> hello.. new to linux/ubuntu in general..
[08:53] <blue42> holy crap, I can actually see those chinese words in irssi
[08:53] <BRPCubuntu> how do i go about installing beryl? is there an easy way
[08:54] <god> wols_ do u know any other instances like mine?
[08:54] <kiwi_> BRPCubuntu: what graphics card do you have?
[08:54] <DarkX> yeah what kiwi said
[08:54] <Grenade> the  computer is an old pos, im thinking of trying a different drive if i can find one
[08:54] <DarkX> =p
[08:54] <BRPCubuntu> its an onboard nvidia 6100
[08:54] <pi3> how do I [de] activate a service?
[08:54] <krismer> hey dark?
[08:54] <BRPCubuntu> i just built this system wanted to see how it would be instead of getting vista
[08:54] <DarkX> yes kris?
[08:54] <Flannel> BRPCubuntu: #ubuntu-effects is the beryl/eyecandy channel, they'll set you up (check in the topic of that channel, there are howtos and such)
[08:54] <blind> Hey, I've been running fluxbox for a while, and wanted to run gnome, but when I try, it doesn't do anything. All that loads is the background, and I'm just sitting there waiting for something to happen.. any suggestions?
[08:55] <scorp123> dyrne: OK, I'm trying out that suggestion ... but so far all I get is a black screen :)
[08:55] <BRPCubuntu> flannel.. thanx.. i'll join and check it out
[08:55] <scorp123> dyrne: but never mind :)  It was worth trying :)
[08:55] <alecjw> pi3, probably sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME start|stop
[08:55] <pi3> blind does your hardware support GNOME?
[08:55] <krismer> of where you are?
[08:55] <blind> pi3: yes, i used to run it.
[08:55] <colbert> Can I burn a .daa image file with any program in ubuntu ?
[08:56] <alecjw> blind, what happens if you do ping localhost ?
[08:56] <persica> blind: What about (re)moving your gnome config in your home directory and trying again?
[08:56] <pi3> blind: try #gnome
[08:56] <blind> persica: what file is that?
[08:56] <wols_> wth are all those warezkiddies using .daa to distribute their stuff now?
[08:56] <blind> alecjw: wrong person? O_o
[08:56] <Pici> !piracy
[08:56] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:56] <alecjw> blind, nope. your loopback interface might be down. gnome doesnt work if it is
[08:56] <SinnerG> anyone know a way to backup my firefox bookmarks + saved passes and use them again @ ubuntu ?
[08:56] <god> wols_ did u give up on me ?
[08:57] <SinnerG> (aka now I'm on windows ftm)
[08:57] <pi3> is ping a service?
[08:57] <blind> alecjw: nope, pings localhost just fine.
[08:57] <bronze> Does anyone know of an application that can rip a CD into FLAC _AND_ include a log?
[08:57] <persica> blind: I believe it's the .gnome directory.
[08:57] <Gnea> pi3: no, it's a network reliability tool
[08:57] <scorp123> dyrne: ha ... selecting standard VGA resolution works :)
[08:57] <krismer> boys excuse is that I am new and much English and in addition I am not myself Venezuelan
[08:58] <alpha> Hay people - what program would I look for in synatics that will unzip a Rar file?
[08:58] <Pici> !rar | alpha
[08:58] <ubotu> alpha: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:58] <krismer>  boys excuse is that I am new and much English and in addition I am not myself Venezuelan
[08:58] <pi3> Gnea: do you have any idea of how to configure it? like setting how many pings allow per minute..
[08:58] <Gnea> krismer: no problem - just take your time and ask your question.
[08:58] <Gnea> !repeat krismer
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat krismer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <blind> no luck, persica.. same exact thing happens.
[08:58] <wols_> god: give me a clear ppp log without wout ppp1 and ppp2 used. one pppd at a time for clarity
[08:58] <persica> blind: I'm thinking maybe your config is messed up or there's a weird startup item that's not set correctly anymore.
[08:58] <persica> blind: hrm.
[08:59] <Gnea> !repeat | krismer
[08:59] <wols_> also: does the same happen on windows now or not?
[08:59] <ubotu> krismer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:59] <Gnea> helps if i remember the pipe
[08:59] <Flannel> SinnerG: the bookmarks are in C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox (well, eveything is, but I dont know if you'll be able to transfer saved passes).  Also, as of Feisty, there's a migration tool, that'll copy that sort of stuff over.
[08:59] <alpha> ubotu - have name of equivalent that would work?
[08:59] <wols_> and does it only happen on web pages or does it happen with, e.g. irc too?
[08:59] <persica> blind: no errors, just blank?
[08:59] <Gnea> alpha: ubotu is a bot
[08:59] <wols_> alpha: no equivalents
[08:59] <blind> just a blank screen. wallpaper's there, nautilus doesn't load, gnome-panel doesn't.. metacity doesn't..
[08:59] <alpha> oh great - feeling dumb here ....
[09:00] <persica> blind: I think you've now passed beyond my knowledge of gnome.
[09:00] <SinnerG> ok ty flannel
[09:00] <bronze> Does anyone know of an application that can rip a CD into FLAC _AND_ include a log?
[09:00] <Gnea> !info unrar-free
[09:00] <blind> lol. well thanks for the help, persica
[09:00] <god> wols_ i ll switch internet to the other pc...generate the log...n i ll be back in less than 10 minutes ok?! the problem is not just with web pages but also with software downloads and updates (though the ubuntu system
[09:00] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:00] <god> )
[09:00] <blind> bronze: have you checked freshmeat.org ?
[09:00] <Flannel> SinnerG: I'd back them up, then try the migration assistant.  Also, I don't know if just saving those files will work.  However, you can export them (Manage Bookmarks, Export) which will produce a file that you can later import
[09:00] <blind> errr, freshmeat.net
[09:00] <lupusbeta> how do i get the PID of a process i started through a shellscript, so that i can kill that process within the script?
[09:00] <wols_> god: hose are webpages too even if you don't see it. try irc
[09:00] <krismer> ok my question is...
[09:00] <alpha> so there is no prog thsat runs in linux that would extract a rar file correct?
[09:00] <lukas__> hi!!! can somebody give me link how to instal apache+PHP+Mysql in ubuntu?please...
[09:01] <Gnea> lupusbeta: ps
[09:01] <blind> lupusbeta: ps
[09:01] <bronze> blind, looks like a advertisement page.
[09:01] <SinnerG> also handy, I'll do both
[09:01] <wols_> lupusbeta: ps, pidof
[09:01] <Pici> lupusbeta: pidof
[09:01] <persica> lupusbeta: ps ax | grep <process>
[09:01] <Flannel> lukas__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:01] <Gnea> !lamp | lukas__
[09:01] <ubotu> lukas__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:01] <blind> bronze: uh. freshmeat.net not org. my bad.
[09:01] <wols_> alpha: unrar-nonfree does
[09:01] <Pici> lupusbeta: I do kill `pidof process`
[09:01] <beau> I am looking to move my ubuntu installation onto a new (bigger) hard drive
[09:01] <alpha> have to pay for this one huh?
[09:01] <kiwi_> alpha: no
[09:02] <Flannel> !rar | alpha
[09:02] <ubotu> alpha: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:02] <supremesonic> 1
[09:02] <lukas__> thanks people!!! :)
[09:02] <supremesonic> !microsoft
[09:02] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:02] <krismer> I need the effect bucket and I cannot install it through BERYL; then it will need a video card?
[09:02] <persica> alpha: install unrar-free  If that doesn't work, try installing unrar from the multiverse repos. (I think that's where it is)
[09:02] <krismer> I need the effect bucket and I cannot install it through BERYL; then it will need a video card?
[09:02] <Memrix> how do I restart vsftpd ?
[09:02] <Gnea> !repeat krismer
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat krismer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Flannel> bronze: Most/all can rip to FLAC, as for logs, I think most do that too.  I'd try sound juicer, and grip, see !rip
[09:03] <Gnea> !repeat | krismer
[09:03] <imbecile> hey guys, I'm how do i disconnect from nm-applet so i can use kismet?
[09:03] <ubotu> krismer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:03] <Gnea> grrr...
[09:03] <lupusbeta> so the line would be "firefox url; ps ax |grep firefox; kill firefox" where the semikolon is the nextline?
[09:03] <krismer> I need the effect bucket and I cannot install it through BERYL; then it will need a video card?
[09:03] <kiwi_> Memrix: sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[09:03] <preaction> Memrix: probably something like `sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart`
[09:03] <Ernz> Hello, where can I locate and change the icons for my theme manually?
[09:03] <Flannel> krismer: please stop repeating your question.  We've seen it.
[09:03] <alpha> kiwi - no? by this you mean there is let's say an evalutation availbe?
[09:03] <Gnea> !beryl | krismer
[09:03] <ubotu> krismer: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:03] <bronze> Flannel, I have both those programs, but I haven't been successful with the log part.
[09:03] <wols_> krismer: it will need opengl hardware accelerated. what videocard do you have?
[09:03] <juan278> whats the equivilent of lsusb for serial ports
[09:04] <kiwi_> alpha: there is a nonfree version... by nonfree we mean, free as in beer, but not free as in speech
[09:04] <octalcOde> ipx backs me up on this, smultron is a useless goblinkike
[09:04] <Ernz> !icons
[09:04] <pi3> can ubotu learn?
[09:04] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[09:04] <alpha> persica - thx much
[09:04] <wols_> juan278: does not exist
[09:04] <octalcOde> srsly, ogra, tell Uzuul to fuck off already
[09:04] <octalcOde> totally, ablabla, i know exactly what you mean about RetLaw
[09:04] <Flannel> bronze: there are more available in the repos, if neither of those write logs (which is unusual, check the options, no logging options?)
[09:04] <wols_> pi3: yes
[09:04] <alpha> kiwi - thx
[09:04] <octalcOde> agree 100%, juan278, chadeldridge is a worthless jew, why do we even keep him around?
[09:04] <octalcOde> oh hi
[09:04] <pi3> !ubotu
[09:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:04] <PriceChild> !ohmy | octalcOde
[09:04] <ubotu> octalcOde: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:04] <wols_> !ops octalcOde is a antisemite
[09:04] <octalcOde> srsly, lopurl, S1NGH is a complete cocksucking aspie
[09:04] <octalcOde> oh... hi
[09:04] <octalcOde> yeah, subzero2000, mbaker is a complete attention whore
[09:05] <octalcOde> yeah grayman but I won't tell Viden you said that
[09:05] <octalcOde> oh fuck
[09:05] <Gnea> juan278: statserial
[09:05] <smultron> ubotu: is he a bot?
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is he a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Viden>  ?
[09:05] <wols_> Gnea: that only gives you link speeds no?
[09:05] <wols_> smultron: it's a bot yes
[09:05] <Gnea> !info statserial
[09:05] <ubotu> statserial: Displays serial port modem status lines. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1-22 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 76 kB
[09:05] <wols_> Viden: it was a troll
[09:05] <Viden> ahh
[09:05] <wols_> Gnea: thanks
[09:05] <Gnea> Statserial displays a table of the signals on a standard 9-pin or 25-pin serial port, and indicates the status of the handshaking lines. It can be useful for debugging problems with serial ports or modems.
[09:05] <necro> umm, amarok says no mp3 support?
[09:06] <S1NGH> any ubuntu moderator available
[09:06] <Viden> How do you run a perl script from the console ?
[09:06] <wols_> !mp3
[09:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:06] <Gnea> wols_: yeah, i just found it too. gonna need it soon
[09:06] <Flannel> Viden: perl [filename] 
[09:06] <wols_> Viden: perl <script>
[09:06] <Viden> thank you
[09:06] <tek-ops> any FAI or kickstart people here?
[09:06] <pi3> !kop is !kop
[09:06] <j3g> question for tomcat users.... why apt creates 2 "admin.xml" for the /admin webapp (one on /var/lib/tomcat other on /usr/share/tomcat?)
[09:06] <krismer> I DO NOT HAVE CARD SO FAR; because my computer is new
[09:06] <necro> how do i get mp3 support for amarok
[09:06] <juan278> erm im connecting a conrtoller to the port is statserial going to help
[09:06] <wols_> tek-ops: ask your real question (but: good luck)
[09:06] <pi3> !kop
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <Flannel> necro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <supremesonic> !karate
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <CyberCod> hello everyone
[09:06] <n2diy> ! nvidia
[09:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <Gnea> krismer: STOP YELLING!
[09:06] <preaction> pi3: only certain people are allowed to add things to the bot
[09:07] <wols_>  /ignire krismer for being a CAPS abuser
[09:07] <S1NGH> LF Moderator
[09:07] <Pici> !botbuse
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botbuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <greyfrog> !mp3 | necro
[09:07] <Pici> !msgthebot
[09:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:07] <krismer> THIS RECENT ONE AND I HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT
[09:07] <god7> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26771/
[09:07] <imbecile> hi you guys! what are some things about my laptop i will need to know while configuring kismet?
[09:07] <tek-ops> I'm doing a netboot, and the kernel loads up however whether I use /dev/rd/0 or /dev/ram0 for the root= argument to the kernel, it still says cannot mount root, any ideas?
[09:07] <god7> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26771/
[09:07] <Gnea> krismer: snap, you're now on /ignore
[09:07] <gnomefreak> krismer: please drop the caps
[09:07] <CyberCod> I'm having trouble keeping feisty connected...
[09:07] <wols_> !ops can you please make krismer stop to continously use CAPS?
[09:07] <pi3> preaction: heh, wouldn't it be an inf loop "!abc is !abc"??
[09:07] <Ernz> Hi, does anyone know where I can locate the icons for the theme I am currently using, so I can mod them?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> wols_: ?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> wols_: im on it ty
[09:07] <wols_> imbecile: you need to know about the wireless card and configure it
[09:08] <S1NGH> Looking for an ubuntu moderator
[09:08] <gnomefreak> wols_: btw its !ops | message
[09:08] <god7> wols_ my nick changed from god to god7
[09:08] <kiwi_> Ernz: usually /home/yourname/.icons/
[09:08] <Pici> S1NGH: ?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> S1NGH: what can i help you with?
[09:08] <tek-ops> here is my PXE config file http://pastebin.ca/584411
[09:08] <wols_> gnomefreak: I'm a debian user and in love with dpkg. sorry :)
[09:08] <tek-ops> which is actually loading correctly
[09:08] <imbecile> wols_,  so i just need to know what kind of card then disable my connection right?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> wols_: its all good
[09:08] <Viden> this script is failing  ... what modules do i have to have to get this to compile in perl ?
[09:09] <bronze> Flannel, I assume you have grip or sound juicer. Can you see if you can get a log somehow?
[09:09] <mcquaid> i've been lazy and didn't upgrade from edgy to feisty yet, but doing so now
[09:09] <CyberCod> is anyone else having problems where the eth0 connection mysteriously turns itself on when the machine is left alone for a while?
[09:09] <wols_> imbecile: if you have a connection with it already, pretty much. what does kismet say/do (not all cards and drivers work with kismet)
[09:09] <necro> so how do i get mp3 support
[09:09] <bronze> Btw, I'm trying with grip now.
[09:09] <Flannel> bronze: no, I have neither.  I've used them in the past though.
[09:09] <mcquaid> is it correct that one should have the meta pkg ubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:09] <jrib> mcquaid: for upgrades
[09:09] <mcquaid> i see no mention of it in the upgrade guide here:
[09:09] <mcquaid> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:09] <wols_> god7: and the connectin ever stops? does it time out or what? let it time out, when pppd on its own stops working
[09:09] <CyberCod> damn.  I must be invisible
[09:09] <Gnea> !mp3 | necro
[09:09] <ubotu> necro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <mcquaid> but i remember reading it in various places
[09:09] <Ernz> kiki_ - Tut - what a stupid place to put them!!! ;)
[09:10] <Pici> mcquaid: if you're running ubuntu and not kubuntu/xubuntu/etc. or if you're running ubuntu server
[09:10] <scorp123> Viden: PERL is an interpreted language ... it is not compiled, e.g. you don't get binaries in the end. .... Usually ...
[09:10] <imbecile> wols_,  i have ipw3945.... im not too sure what it says to do.. im pretty new at this stuff
[09:10] <jrib> mcquaid: I believe update-manager will take care of it or warn you... at least I hope it does
[09:10] <wols_> imbecile: paste its output in a pastebin
[09:10] <mcquaid> well i installed ubuntu but use kubuntu mainly now
[09:10] <kiwi_> Ernz: i usually move all themes and icons to /usr/share/
[09:10] <Viden> I am getting this:  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at perl.pl line 3.
[09:10] <scorp123> Viden: but PERL knows various add-ons and plugins ... could be that the program you try to run needs one of those? That would be most likely mentioned in a README somewhere somehow?
[09:10] <krismer> excuse boys is that my English is not very good and I must be translating everything what they say to me for that reason takes as much time responding me! pardon that jeje SHOUTS upps
[09:10] <god7> wols_ in firefox it just says server not found
[09:10] <mcquaid> hmm, the reason being, i removed openoffice and i believe ubuntu-desktop flags that as to be installed
[09:10] <krismer> sorry
[09:11] <Flannel> krismer: which language do you prefer?
[09:11] <mcquaid> just dealing with some space issues, i'd rather install open office after the fact
[09:11] <wols_> god7: that's not what I said. wait til pppd is timing out and not running anymore. that will produce a message too
[09:11] <Gnea> krismer: what is your native language?
[09:11] <Ernz> kiwi*_: Yea, makes sense I suppose. That is where I looked first. .icons was exactly right, thanks.
[09:11] <krismer> and in addition it costs to me to understand what they explain to me!
[09:11] <god7> wols_ when it actually works, it would some up with the message problem loading the page
[09:11] <preaction> krismer: there's probably an ubuntu support channel in your native language
[09:11] <wols_> god7: and from that I see it's the remote end that stops the connection. either modem or ISP. but a log where pppd exits on its own would tell us that
[09:11] <krismer> spanish
[09:11] <Flannel> !es | krismer
[09:11] <Music_Shuffle> !es | krismer
[09:11] <ubotu> krismer: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:12] <Music_Shuffle> Sooner or later Flannel...I'll win that...
[09:12] <ReServe2> I have ubuntu 6.10 and downloaded nvidia drivers via synaptics, but the drivers where not started?
[09:12] <hwilde> hey when I login, the desktop is there, but the gnome panels are all blank. any idea what I messed up or how to fix it ?
[09:12] <hwilde> !nvidia | ReServe2
[09:12] <ubotu> ReServe2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <kiwi_> Ernz: .icons under your home folder is where the icons and themes you isntall go... but those will only affect yourself, (apps run with sudo will look ugly then...) so i cope them to /usr/share for all users to use
[09:12] <ReServe2> ok, thanks
[09:12] <god7> wols_ "where pppd exits on its own would tell us that " how do i produce that log?
[09:13] <wols_> god7: by waiting until it shows up in syslog pppd[17263] : Exit
[09:13] <god7> ok
[09:13] <Ernz> kiwi_ : I Use a theme downloaded from gnome-look, is there a way I can make this the default theme for sudo views also?
[09:13] <krismer> ah ok then I look for the page of ubuntu.es and there I look for the information that I need?
[09:13] <smultron> i'm on a 1024x768 display. Rhythmbox seems to be too big for my screen and won't shrink anymore. can this be fixed?
[09:13] <god7> gimmi a moment i ll switch internet again :)
[09:13] <wols_> god7: and when you connect, only thing you should do is "ping google.com"
[09:13] <wols_> no webbrowser or anything else
[09:13] <Flannel> krismer: use gksu
[09:13] <god7> wols_ wait i type ping google.com in teminal ?
[09:13] <wols_> yes
[09:13] <Flannel> krismer: gksu is sudo for graphical programs
[09:14] <god7> wols_ ok i ll try it now
[09:14] <Gnea> krismer: yes, type this here: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:14] <wols_> god7: wait
[09:14] <god7> wols_ yes?
[09:14] <xst> In edgy I configured the fonts size in emacs in .Xresources but this file isn't loaded in feisty. Neither are .Xdefaults. What to do?
[09:14] <wols_> open two terminals. in tone you you do a sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[09:14] <wols_> in the other you ping google
[09:15] <krismer> good very many small thanks for the information. And they excuse to the annoyances or problems caused with respect to my language! Tendre that to learn English, no? jaja bye
[09:15] <wols_> god7: then you will see when pppd exits
[09:15] <god7> wols_ ok... i ll be back in 2-3 minutes, once i do it
[09:15] <wols_> heh... "many small thanks". that's funny
[09:15] <imbecile> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26773/  <---- output  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26772/ <----- conf file
[09:15] <smultron> i'm on a 1024x768 display. Rhythmbox seems to be too big for my screen and won't shrink anymore. can this be fixed?
[09:15] <Gnea> krismer: you are very welcome, sorry for my reaction earlier, good luck.
[09:16] <wols_> imbecile: # Source types and required drivers are listed in the README under the
[09:16] <wols_> # CAPTURE SOURCES section.
[09:16] <wols_> follow that advice
[09:16] <duro> ciao krismer
[09:16] <wols_> imbecile: should be /usr/share/doc/kismet
[09:17] <Wanderer> any idea how I get KDE/Kubuntu to start superkaramba when I log in?
[09:17] <Wanderer> hate having to remember to go start it every time
[09:17] <gsteixei>  hi people
[09:17] <hwilde> what is the package for right click on desktop "Open Terminal"
[09:17] <Wanderer> 'lo
[09:17] <gsteixei> My ubuntu workstations are doing something weird, when someone sends more than one job, just the first one gets in the server, the other ones, keeps waiting util the fist is printed.
[09:17] <wols_> Wanderer: ~/.xsession
[09:18] <gsteixei>  i believe that is something with that distribution, the other ones sends every thing to the server.
[09:18] <gsteixei> does anyone knows why this is happening???
[09:18] <Wanderer> wols: not a more user friendly method than that for kde based apps?
[09:18] <krismer> ok thank you very much equal you and thanks for its patience! I someday hope to return to treat them and jaja already has knowledge of the English language a greeting from Venezuela for where they are
[09:18] <wols_> Wanderer: maybe. I dunno. maybe there is some autostart?
[09:18] <persica> Wanderer: There should be an auto-start list in the KDE control panel.
[09:18] <imbecile> wols_,  I'll give it a good look, this stuff is sort of intimidating for me
[09:18] <wols_> Wanderer: I usually only know the methods that work always. I ahte the spcific ones even when more user firendly
[09:19] <Wanderer> didn't see it, I'll look again
[09:19] <wols_> imbecile: you can destry any of your hardware unless you drop it 3 feet
[09:19] <Wanderer> yeah, nothing labeled as cuch
[09:19] <Wanderer> err, s/cu/su/g
[09:19] <DShepherd> is there any free apps that can open MS publisher files?
[09:19] <wols_> Wanderer: I'd google "kde autostart"
[09:19] <krismer> ciao is italian it is said is "chao" duro bye everybody
[09:19] <wols_> krismer: au revoir ;)
[09:19] <persica> Wandersr: You want the "Service Manager" in the kde control panel I believe (kcontrol)
[09:19] <duro> cu
[09:20] <supremesonic> anyone know where to find the netbeans icon?
[09:20] <Wanderer> googled "kde control application start"
[09:20] <Wanderer> didn't think of "autostart", lets see what that does
[09:20] <nj786> do you guys know how to open a MS IE page into linux
[09:20] <jrib> nj786: google for "ie4linux" if you need to install IE on linux
[09:20] <wols_> nj786: google IE4linux
[09:20] <nj786> basically a site that only allows IE
[09:20] <Wanderer> Dang it.  "service manager" was under the advanced tab I didn't even see
[09:21] <krismer> ok arrivederchi!!!
[09:21] <Pici> !ies4linux | nj786
[09:21] <ubotu> nj786: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[09:21] <wols_> nj786: you can also use "user-agent-switcher" extension for firefox
[09:21] <imbecile> wols_,  hehe I just always feel like i dont know where to start in command line stuff... any books or webpages you can recommend to learn?
[09:21] <nj786> wols_ can i search it in synapytic
[09:21] <nj786> ?
[09:21] <bronze> Does anyone know of an application that can rip a CD into FLAC _AND_ include a log?
[09:21] <W3ird_N3rd> hi, where can I force Ubuntu to use UDMA5/ATA100 for my harddisk?
[09:21] <Wanderer> hmm, now how to add one :>
[09:21] <persica> Wanderer: I think that's it.  I'm just running kcontrol while in fluxbox.
[09:21] <nj786> wols_ explain "user-agent-switcher
[09:22] <gsteixei> W3ird_N3rd:   try lookin on   man hdparm
[09:22] <persica> Wanderer: At the very least you can just add scripts/links in ~/.kde/Autostart.
[09:22] <capiira> haha this in funny in synaptic there is a menu entry called " Mark recommended for Installation" and i was reading "Mark(Mark Shuttlework) recommends for installation" :D hehe
[09:22] <W3ird_N3rd> gsteixei thx I'll take a look
[09:22] <mcquaid> ok, using upgrade manager for the first time. before i click upgrade, does it tell me how much space it needs to complete the upgrade?
[09:23] <gsteixei> can someone help me with a a cups issue???
[09:23] <mcquaid> running a little low on room and want to make sure I have enough
[09:23] <Wanderer> perisca: that's what I'm working on now :>
[09:23] <persica> Wanderer: I guess service manager is just for KDE modules.
[09:23] <wols_> nj786: those things are not in synaptic. user-agent-switcher is a firefox extension. addons.mozilla.org
[09:23] <Pici> capiira: what package?
[09:24] <nj786> wols_how do i get it?
[09:24] <capiira> all
[09:24] <capiira> hehe
[09:24] <persica> Wanderer: I have to take off.  Good luck.
[09:24] <capiira> default menu option when you right click
[09:24] <wols_> nj786: your firefox has an extension manager
[09:24] <capiira> i was thinking that this is a list that MArks recommend for installation
[09:24] <wols_> and i gave you the url
[09:25] <mcquaid> can anyone tell me if upgrade-manger checks for space needed before applying the updates?
[09:26] <nj786> wols_ it gave me a download curruption
[09:27] <Pici> capiira: oooh.
[09:27] <capiira> see?
[09:27] <capiira> :D
[09:27] <capiira> i was thinking Mark means Mark Shuttlework
[09:27] <capiira> hehe
[09:28] <god> wols_ can u pls gimmi the commands again
[09:28] <wols_> which one?
[09:28] <wols_> sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog           add "| grep ppp" if you wish
[09:29] <god> wols_ thank you
[09:29] <god> wols_ :) be back in a couple of minutes
[09:30] <nj786> wols_ what do i do since its currupted download
[09:30] <kazim59> Shuttlework or Shuttleworth?
[09:30] <capiira> worth what ever :)
[09:30] <gsteixei> anyone can help me in a cups issue?
[09:30] <capiira> but Mark for Mark
[09:30] <capiira> :)
[09:31] <wols_> kazim59: worth
[09:31] <puff_> gsteixei: Generally speaking, the open end is the top. You want to keep it vertical until you're ready to drink.  But make sure it's at your mouth before you start tipping it.
[09:31] <Music_Shuffle> puff_, you forgot to mention that you should make sure to stop for breath occasionally, its a bad way to go.
[09:32] <puff_> gsteixei: Just kidding... I had a bad experience with CUPS on debian, several years ago, haven't been back to it.  I should try it out though.
[09:32] <Tremitos> Hi
[09:32] <espenel> Hi
[09:32] <paolob-dirbasica> !scanner
[09:32] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:32] <nj786> hey you guys which IE should i choose 5,6?
[09:32] <nj786> whic 1?
[09:32] <nj786> 505?
[09:32] <nj786> 5.5**
[09:33] <nj786> wols_, whic IE do you recocmend
[09:33] <ryan__> anyone know how to fix skype issues?
[09:33] <ryan__> is there a skype channel for such a thing
[09:33] <ryan__> ?
[09:34] <dromer> how can I see which ftpd I have installed and what program I can use to manage users etc. ?
[09:34] <Tremitos> secret
[09:34] <espenel> you tell me
[09:34] <ryan__> alright thanks people
[09:34] <ryan__> peace
[09:34] <wols_> nj786: IE6
[09:34] <wols_> nj786: but I don#t recmmend ANY IE
[09:35] <nj786> wols_, why not?
[09:35] <nj786> wols_ the link you gave me says it is currupted why is that?/
[09:35] <nj786> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[09:35] <imbecile> how do i open README.gz in terminal?
[09:35] <wols_> nj786: what link says that?
[09:35] <Gnea> imbecile: zless README.gz
[09:35] <gsteixei> hi puff, thats it:
[09:35] <Cycne> yo
[09:36] <wols_> nj786: how does it say that? where? exact paste please
[09:36] <gsteixei> My ubuntu workstations are doing something weird, when someone sends more than one job, just the first one gets in the server, the other ones, keeps waiting util the fist is printed.
[09:36] <imbecile> Gnea,  thanks
[09:36] <nj786> wols_ hold on
[09:36] <gsteixei>  i believe that is something with that distribution, the other ones sends every thing to the server.
[09:36] <RabidWeezle_> well wtf... this laptop had built in wireless all along...
[09:36] <RabidWeezle_> o_O
[09:37] <Gnea> gsteixei: do they all get printed?
[09:37] <gsteixei> yes
[09:37] <Gnea> then it's working as it should.
[09:37] <RabidWeezle_> god, I went out and wasted money on a wireless card....
[09:37] <gsteixei> gnea: yes, they do, but once a w while
[09:37] <Gnea> there's nothing wrong with it
[09:37] <Gnea> gsteixei: could be a low ink cartridge?
[09:38] <gsteixei> gnea: no, that is a problem, because i have 300 worksations and more tham a thowsand users a day
[09:38] <gsteixei> gnea: so i have a server, that keeps the printing jobs until the user came and take their printings
[09:39] <dromer> how can I manage users on a ftpdZ
[09:39] <dromer> ?
[09:39] <nj786> wols_, it says: firefox could not install the file at https://addons.mozillla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/16771/firebug.xpi        becuase:invaild file hash (possible download corruption) -261
[09:40] <wols_> nj786: did I tell you to install firebig? NO
[09:40] <nj786> wols_ oh
[09:40] <wols_> I told you to install user-agent-switcher
[09:40] <Gnea> gsteixei: i still don't see the problem - it just sounds like the ubuntu systems are throttling themselves
[09:40] <nj786> wols_ where can i find that though i m sorry i am a noob so bare with me
[09:40] <wols_> nj786: on that website. websites sometimes have more than one download. never seen that?
[09:40] <finalbeta> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp Anyone tried this rdp server for linux? VNC is horrible. To slow. I'm used to opening rdp in rdp screens, with vnc that's not not happening.
[09:40] <_peerless>  hey, I am trying to install xubuntu from a usb drive (on a laptop that doesnt have a cdrom drive).  I made the stick bootable using syslinux.  I copied over the alternate cdrom iso to the stick, renamed isolinux folder and .bin and .cfg to syslinux.  Booted up, started the install. I get to the point where it tries to detect cdrom, cant.  I go to a shell and try to mount the usb as cdrom, but I am stuck at this step.  If I check the syslog when plugging in 
[09:41] <nj786> wols_ no i havnt sorry
[09:41] <wols_> finalbeta: freenx
[09:41] <wols_> nj786: have you evre sued google? ever searched something?
[09:41] <nj786> yes
[09:41] <nj786> wols_ so i search  user-agent-switcher on google?
[09:41] <finalbeta> wobx: freenx is unsecure.
[09:42] <finalbeta> And widely unexcepted
[09:42] <Gnea> unaccepted?
[09:42] <nj786> ok wols_ on that website u gace me what do i do to find user-agent-switcher
[09:42] <nj786> gave
[09:43] <wols_> nj786: no. on addons.mozilla.org
[09:43] <Tikka> anyone know why grep and cat would play up, claiming an invalid parameter.. such as.. cat * will claim that -a was used. grep also errors with a different parameter
[09:43] <DELUDE> Help: I updated to 7.04 from the update manager and the system halted at "6 min left", now it gets stuck at X login (before i login)
[09:43] <wols_> nj786: you search for the extension there
[09:43] <finalbeta> Gnea: yep :P
[09:44] <Gnea> finalbeta: so what's wrong with vnc?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> Tikka: what is the command?
[09:44] <imbecile> wols_,  where is the conf file for kismet again?
[09:44] <wols_> imbecile: should be in /etc
[09:44] <nj786> wols_ ok where is it under user-agent-switcher
[09:44] <ryan__> how do I configure my epson printer?
[09:44] <wols_> Gnea: it mostly sucks. that's all
[09:44] <nj786> i  know extension
[09:45] <teenbeat2007_lpt> i agree
[09:45] <tomd123> DELUDE, try it again
[09:45] <ryan__> is there a way to install a printer, Ive never printed on ubuntu before
[09:45] <wols_> !printing ryan__
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printing ryan__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <wols_> !printing > ryan__
[09:45] <nj786> wols_ what category https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1
[09:45] <wols_> nj786: no category. use the search
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ryan__: did you look in system>admin>printer
[09:46] <finalbeta> Gnea: It's much slower then rdp, refreshes take more resources. Often when going into a network, I have one terminal server, from which I can take over other boxes. I terminal into work, terminal to the ts from some company, from that box I start a terminal session to the adc or whatever. Doing that with VNC is impossible.
[09:46] <dpomp> hi, anyone here use Last.fm music player?
[09:46] <DELUDE> tomd123, how do I do it without X running?
[09:46] <teenbeat2007_lpt> i hate vnc
[09:46] <nj786> wols_ no results found
[09:46] <ryan__> k it says its reading or something
[09:46] <dpomp> everytime i run it, it closes, any ideas?
[09:46] <Flannel> DELUDE: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:46] <kaktuskatta> Hi! I need some help with my media device in Amarok. I'm getting it to work with gnomad 2, but I'm unable to connect to the player using Amarok! My player is Creative Zen V plus
[09:46] <ryan__> cups has its add pritner thing open
[09:47] <ryan__> but nothing is happening so far
[09:47] <finalbeta> RDP is pretty awesome compared to any other remote desktop product like VNC or PC anywhere.
[09:47] <gnomefreak> ryan__: did you already pick your printer out of the list?
[09:47] <wols_> nj786: user agent switcher
[09:47] <bsdunix> i just got a dishearteningly curious error back from mkisofs; " 50.48% done, estimate finish Fri Jun 22 14:46:30 2007
[09:47] <teenbeat2007_lpt> depends wich version of pcanywhere
[09:47] <bsdunix> File size limit exceeded (core dumped)
[09:47] <ryan__> no list is open yet
[09:47] <gnomefreak> ryan__: assuming the drivers are installed?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> ryan__: restart cups than
[09:48] <ryan__> ok nm
[09:48] <ryan__> it finally opened
[09:48] <ryan__> cool
[09:48] <bsdunix> mkisofs has a file size limit!?
[09:48] <ryan__> do I need to install a driver for it?
[09:48] <ryan__> I found it on the list
[09:48] <tomd123> DELUDE, i meant that if it stalled during the installation, just install it again
[09:49] <tomd123> DELUDE, also make sure your cd isn't corrupt
[09:49] <ryan__> Im kinda in a hurry to drop off my resume just need it printer
[09:49] <ryan__> printed
[09:49] <kaktuskatta> Anyone here with experience from media players under ubuntu?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ryan__: once you choose it the next page is driver page do you see green check mark
[09:49] <bsdunix> kaktuskatta: i just got mplayer +css working
[09:49] <wols_> kaktuskatta: ask your real question, don't pussyfoot around
[09:50] <hypn0> kaktuskatta: what sort of experience, I know to to play and stop :-)
[09:50] <bobbob> hey im having a issue
[09:50] <ryan__> I think its printing
[09:50] <bobbob> i did a fresh install of ubuntu, newest version and
[09:50] <bobbob> my mouse was a little to slow so i
[09:50] <DELUDE> tomd123, i was updating via update manager through the interet, no cd
[09:50] <bobbob> moved the setting a little faster, now its stuck at really slow
[09:50] <gnomefreak> !ask | bobbob and kaktuskatta
[09:50] <ubotu> bobbob and kaktuskatta: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <bsdunix> ryan__: do you hear whirring noises? then it probably is printing then
[09:50] <DELUDE> Flannel, thanks, i'll try that
[09:50] <god> wols_ i am back ...
[09:50] <ryan__> yea the printer is going
[09:51] <nj786> wols_ do  you recocmend IE?
[09:51] <kaktuskatta> hypn0: I'm trying to get my creative player to work in Amarok, but I can't find it! I
[09:51] <bobbob> sorry gnome.. i changed my mouse settings to a little faster, but now its stuck at super slow
[09:51] <kaktuskatta> Anyone here with experience from media players under ubuntu?
[09:51] <nj786> why or why not?
[09:51] <bobbob> any idea of what i can do to fix it
[09:51] <wols_> nj786: no one recommends IE except MS
[09:51] <TheVault> I need a little bit of help. I just found screenlets, Widgets for the desktop. Well I was also reading that there is a beryl widget plugin that you can install and you can make the widgets do much like Mac OS X how they fly in and fly out and I was wondering where I find this plugin and how do I install it
[09:51] <nj786> wosl_ ok
[09:51] <ryan__> damm it prints alot slower than windows lol
[09:51] <nj786> wols_ ok
[09:51] <bsdunix> kaktuskatta: ... umm. er, uh: "creative player"? who needs one of them things?
[09:51] <god> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26783/
[09:51] <gnomefreak> bobbob: change it back
[09:51] <kaktuskatta> hypn0: I've managed to detect and transfer files in Gnomad, but I want to use it in Amarok
[09:51] <bobbob> i did
[09:51] <bobbob> and saved the setting
[09:51] <gnomefreak> kaktuskatta: what is your problem what media player so on
[09:51] <bobbob> restarted
[09:51] <bobbob> nothing
[09:52] <gnomefreak> bobbob: restart?
[09:52] <bobbob> its stuck on super slow
[09:52] <hypn0> kaktuskatta: I got no idea, anyone else?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> and still slow bobbob ?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> bobbob: how did you change it (what method?)
[09:52] <god> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26784/
[09:52] <bobbob> yeah
[09:52] <nj786> wols_ you see i am trying to open a windows IE file and it wont open
[09:52] <god> wols_ did u get the two links?
[09:52] <bobbob> in the settings
[09:52] <DarthVader_> saludos soy nuevo aqui
[09:53] <kaktuskatta> gnomefreak: Since I'm able to get it to work under Gnomad, the MTP protocol works fine. I checked this by typing mtp-detect
[09:53] <kaktuskatta> I also checked out amaroks homepage, useless
[09:53] <DarthVader_> necesito saber como bajar una distro por torrent
[09:53] <gnomefreak> kaktuskatta: did you try asking in #amarok or #kubuntu by chance?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> !br | DarthVader_
[09:54] <ubotu> DarthVader_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:54] <bobbob> any idea gnome?
[09:54] <bobbob> or anyone
[09:54] <kaktuskatta> gnomefreak: I just signed in
[09:54] <_peerless> what does it mean when I put in a usb flash drive and it says kernel: unknown partition table?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> bobbob: not off hand how did you set it, from GUI or CLi?
[09:54] <kaktuskatta> gnomefreak: Maybe a good idea, but I gave it a chance here first ;)
[09:54] <nj786> wols_ it saved on my desktop but it wont poen it keeps asking me to save it again and again
[09:54] <nj786> i dono why
[09:54] <ryan__> thanks everyone for the help
[09:55] <ryan__> I printed my resume
[09:55] <ryan__> see ya
[09:55] <fred__> anyone can help with apache php mysql problems out there?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> _peerless: means it is probably formatted in ntfs or someother file type
[09:55] <_peerless> na ive tried FAT and FAT32
[09:55] <_peerless> same error both times
[09:55] <bobbob> anyone have any idea
[09:55] <bobbob> what i could do to fix it
[09:55] <krismer> ubuntu espaol
[09:55] <god> wols_ what does "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" mean? can this be the problem?
[09:55] <krismer> ????
[09:56] <gnomefreak> _peerless: let me guess you first saw this issue on 2.6.20-16 right?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> !es | krismer
[09:56] <ubotu> krismer: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:56] <wols_> god: do you have more than one ethernet ion that ubuntu PC?
[09:56] <god> wals_ ethernet ion? what is that?
[09:57] <wols_> god: and you again started several pppd something I explicitly told you NOT to do
[09:57] <_peerless> no im trying this with 7.04
[09:57] <imbecile> do i need to patch my driver for ipw3945 to get it in monitor mode?
[09:57] <kaktuskatta> While I'm still here: I'm unable to get fglrxinfo to work as normal user. It prints the correct info only as root! Which files need changing of permissions?
[09:57] <krismer> hey volvi
[09:57] <gnomefreak> _peerless: try booting to 2.6.20-15 kernel see if it helps
[09:57] <gnomefreak> _peerless: 2.6.20 is 7.04
[09:57] <_peerless> oh my bad
[09:57] <wols_> and no this is not the problem
[09:57] <_peerless> im new to this
[09:57] <wols_> god: and what is connected to your eth1?
[09:58] <fred__> i installed apache2 and http://localhost still comes up blank any suggestions
[09:58] <gnomefreak> _peerless: the -16 kernel had issues with hardware detection
[09:58] <buda> I have a question: is there any chance to make my video card working properly on Xubuntu, although there is no official driver for linux (S3 Trio 3d/2x)
[09:58] <wols_> buda: define "working properly"
[09:58] <wols_> use the s3trio driver (i think that's it)
[09:58] <fred__> i installed apache2 and http://localhost still comes up blank any suggestions
[09:58] <god> wols_ nothing eth 1 is not used at all
[09:58] <wols_> god: it is
[09:58] <Milkma1> Hello people I was just wondering if there is any news about Linux support for Creative's X-Fi sound card?
[09:58] <wols_> the syslog says so. over and over again. what is it?
[09:59] <god> wols s3trio driver... is that for me/
[09:59] <god> ?
[09:59] <wols_> Milkma1: alspa-project org
[09:59] <wols_> god: no that's not for you
[09:59] <gnomefreak> buda: you cant have 3d on that card but it will work properly using vesa
[09:59] <gnomefreak> wols_: it doesnt work :(
[09:59] <buda> video files are not playing properly, there's some noise on the left side of the video
[09:59] <wols_> Milkma1: alsa-project.org rather
[09:59] <nj786> wols_, so what can i do?
[09:59] <wols_> gnomefreak: what doesn't?
[09:59] <fred__> i installed apache2 and http://localhost still comes up blank any suggestions
[09:59] <crabgrass> hey guys, what's it mean when a process is a zombie?
[09:59] <GizDrak-Server> !Netatalk
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netatalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <HymnToLife> fred__, is apacha running ?
[09:59] <wols_> nj786: learn to use your firefox and keep alert of the yellow bars
[09:59] <gnomefreak> wols_: the s3 drivers
[10:00] <webbhawk> question; i just installed ubuntu, then all the updates, tried to adjust my mouse pointer speed and now it is at it's lowest speed and won't change. any way to fix this?
[10:00] <GizDrak-Server> !afp
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <fred__> im try to determine that
[10:00] <fred__> i've run the restart command
[10:00] <fred__> still nothing
[10:00] <wols_> gnomefreak: I once upon a time ran X fine in S3 drivers. so why not?
[10:00] <buda> it is using a virge driver, as I can see
[10:00] <god> wols: maybe there is a problem with the modem compability with ubuntu? for pc i had to use a cd to install the internet conection
[10:00] <crabgrass> what's it mean when a process is a zombie?
[10:00] <wols_> unlikely. I asked you a quewstion. answer me
[10:00] <nj786> wols_ yellow bard?
[10:00] <nj786> bars***
[10:00] <gnomefreak> wols_: i have a Laptop with a savage card and never got those drivers to work
[10:00] <bobbob> anyone have any ideas on the slow mouse issue?
[10:00] <bobbob> gnome.. maybe
[10:00] <wols_> crabgrass: /msg dpkg zombie
[10:01] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to change sources in kismet for ipw3945?  im not sure what im doing.. here is the line i need   "source=none,none,addme" what does this mean?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> wols_: i cant name one person that got them to work
[10:01] <god> wols_: the second internet card is not used
[10:01] <Gnea> finalbeta: did you get xrdp to work?
[10:01] <wols_> gnomefreak: a savage is no trio. very different cards. totally different drivers
[10:01] <alexnick> Hey everyone. For the 3rd time my Update Manager has stalled. Anyone know why?
[10:01] <wols_> gnomefreak: ssavage uses the savage driver btw. trio uses s3
[10:01] <finalbeta> Gnea: haven't tried
[10:01] <bobbob> any ideas gnome.. about the slow mouse issue
[10:01] <bobbob> or anyone else that may have an idea
[10:01] <Gnea> finalbeta: trying it now
[10:01] <wols_> and yes savage are useless cards
[10:01] <bobbob> fresh install.. mouse is stuck on super slow
[10:01] <dpomp> Windows Wireless Driver or ndiswrapper flashes and doesnt open, can i get some help?
[10:01] <buda> i know. but where can i find drivers. i've tried on official website and google, but nothing
[10:02] <wols_> dpomp: "doesn't open"?
[10:02] <wols_> dpomp: ndiswrapper is no GUI program
[10:02] <dpomp> it flashes, and closes
[10:02] <gnomefreak> trio is made by savage iirc and still useless IMHO but feel free to try to get them to work ;)(
[10:02] <dpomp> it is, it worked before, it started to to work
[10:02] <wols_> dpomp: it's no gui
[10:02] <crabgrass> wols_: what?
[10:02] <dpomp> not to *
[10:02] <wols_> dpomp: use it in an xterm
[10:02] <wols_> gnomefreak: s3 trio are NOT savage cards
[10:03] <wols_> god: it is connected to something
[10:03] <scorp123> I now get this error: /dev/hda7 has gone 49710 days without being checked ..... 49710 days? :-) Anyone ever seen this message? :-)
[10:03] <Gnea> finalbeta: hrm, it's trying to work... i'm not too familiar with rdp
[10:03] <shishirjh> I have been trying to use a PCMCIA wireless card for data transfer, the syslog shows it being recognized at ttyS0 but it doesnot work, anybody help
[10:03] <alexnick> How do I terminate an unresponsive application?
[10:03] <bobbob> anyone know what i should do about a mouse stuck on slow
[10:03] <bobbob> super slow
[10:03] <bobbob> i changed the setting and now its stuck on super slow
[10:03] <Gnea> finalbeta: i got the xrdp server to run, but getting tsclient to connect to it is tricky
[10:03] <wols_> crabgrass: have you done what I told you?
[10:03] <soundray> alexnick: click on the right upper X and wait for gnome to offer to kill it for you.
[10:03] <wols_> shishirjh: what chipset?
[10:03] <finalbeta> Gnea: the rdp client that comes with ubuntu ain't 100% ok. But it should work.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> wols_: btw ndisgtk is the gui to ndiswrapper
[10:03] <wols_> alexnick: man kill
[10:04] <Gnea> finalbeta: i'm actually trying this from a debian system
[10:04] <crabgrass> wols_: "dpkg zombie" in term returns "dpkg: need an action option"
[10:04] <wols_> gnomefreak: sure. but ndiswrapper itself has no GUI
[10:04] <alexnick> man kill?
[10:04] <shishirjh> My chipset is ATI IXP
[10:04] <bobbob> mouse is stuck on super super slow setting and it wont let me change it.. anyone???
[10:04] <fred__> how can i verify that apache2 is running poperly?
[10:04] <god> wols_: but it is not, i have nothing in it... there is no cable connected...and i don't think that's the problem because in the other pc i only have one internet card
[10:04] <shishirjh> and the PCMCIA is some local chinese
[10:04] <scorp123> alexnick: xkill .... then just aim and click on the offending application :)
[10:04] <wols_> crabgrass: I said /msg dpkg zombie. learn to read what I type
[10:04] <shishirjh> i couldnot figure it out
[10:04] <alexnick> sounds good :] 
[10:04] <bobbob> gnome any ideas for me
[10:04] <buda> ok.thx guys! i'll try to fix it later... buy!
[10:04] <bobbob> anything ill try it
[10:04] <fred__> how can i verify that apache2 is running poperly?
[10:04] <ryan__> anyone know how to install azureus
[10:05] <god> wols_ i guess i am stuck with usinf wireless :)
[10:05] <ryan__> ?
[10:05] <wols_> god: what card is that then and why does it get dhcp offers from 192.168.1.1?
[10:05] <crabgrass> wols_: did that to, no response
[10:05] <buda> i mean bye
[10:05] <scorp123> fred__: sudo lsof -n -i -P
[10:05] <krismer> bueno aja q mas voy a hacer
[10:05] <bobbob> i need help... my mouse is stuck on  slow and it wont let me change it in settings
[10:05] <scorp123> fred__: lists all running network daemons
[10:05] <god> wols: that's my ip fo adsl...the modem provides it
[10:05] <wols_> crabgrass: dpkg is a bot for #debian on this network and has a zombie factoid unles ubotu
[10:05] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to change sources in kismet for ipw3945?  im not sure what im doing.. here is the line i need   "source=none,none,addme" what does this mean?
[10:05] <wols_> crabgrass: hop in to #debian for a short time and do the /msg command again
[10:05] <wols_> god: then why the heck do you use ppp?
[10:06] <wols_> god: sotp using ppp
[10:06] <wols_> *stop
[10:06] <god> wols_ because it is an adsl modem...
[10:06] <crackintosh> can someone suggest an ubuntu program like menumeters for OS X?
[10:06] <crabgrass> wols_: ah
[10:06] <wols_> god: you don#t have a modem, you have a router!
[10:06] <krismer> aa
[10:06] <wols_> god: it's no adsl modem, it's arouter
[10:06] <god> wols_ so how do i set up the internet connection than?
[10:06] <wols_> with built in modem
[10:06] <wols_> god: rmeove all pppd stuff
[10:06] <fred__> scorp123:  i ran that command and apache is not listed
[10:06] <krismer> try
[10:06] <god> wols_ how ?
[10:07] <wols_> god: rest will take care by itself
[10:07] <wols_> !apt | god
[10:07] <ubotu> god: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:07] <scorp123> fred__: is anything getting listed on Port 80 ?
[10:07] <crabgrass> wols_: well... crap. i can't kill a zombie, but the fact that the zombie is running is preventing me from starting the process again. any ideas on what to do?
[10:07] <crabgrass> wols_: this is a wine process, btw.
[10:07] <wols_> fred__: sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST
[10:07] <god> wals_ so i just connect the adsl router and it shall conecct to internet? but where do i put the username and password than?
[10:07] <wols_> crabgrass: how did you try? kill -9?
[10:07] <krismer> i cant
[10:07] <ahorner> hey my homz, i need some help
[10:08] <crabgrass> wols_: i tried killing the zombie with kill and pkill, no luck.
[10:08] <wols_> god: your adsl router has username and password
[10:08] <Asauce> I have a weird problem with my internet connection... I can browse the web and IM just fine, but when I try to download updates or packages it won't work... (this is after manually configuring my wireless card)
[10:08] <ahorner> its simple but easy
[10:08] <dpomp> wols, are you familiar with ndiswrapper?
[10:08] <ahorner> whats the package command for evny
[10:08] <ahorner> well i mean the last part
[10:08] <crabgrass> !envy
[10:08] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:08] <ahorner> ..
[10:08] <ahorner> duh
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ahorner: dont use envy
[10:08] <crabgrass> !worksforme
[10:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:08] <ahorner> well im not usin that other piece of crap
[10:08] <god> wols_ it says modem adsl on it...it can't be the router :(
[10:08] <fred__> corp123: only thing i see on port 80 is firefox
[10:09] <ahorner> everybody i talked to before said they had problems wit it
[10:09] <gnomefreak> ahorner: use the restricted-manager
[10:09] <ahorner> hell no
[10:09] <god> wols: i have to put it in manually in windows when i log in to internet
[10:09] <ahorner> wow
[10:09] <soundray> Asauce: have you configured a proxy?
[10:09] <wols_> dpomp: familiar enough that I know it doesn't depend on X
[10:09] <scorp123> fred__: sudo netstat -ln
[10:09] <ahorner> god people somebody give me the packagename or link to envy please
[10:09] <wols_> god: what device is it? what model/brand?
[10:10] <nickrud> god, try pointing your browser at 192.168.0.1 ; if it's like most of the asdl modems or routers I've used, you can set up it up from there
[10:10] <ahorner> not to be rusde.
[10:10] <ahorner> or 192.168.1.1
[10:10] <wols_> nickrud: it's 192.168.1.1
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ahorner: join #ubuntu-offtopic for unsupported help
[10:10] <ahorner> ya
[10:10] <ahorner> ok..
[10:10] <fred__> corp: what am i looking for here
[10:10] <fred__> ?
[10:10] <dpomp> wols, when i do ndiswrapper -a net5211, it says where 'devid' is either PCIDD or USBID of the form XXXX:XXXX, as reported by 'lspci -n' or 'lsub' for the card, so how do i add my wireless card in xterm?
[10:10] <wols_> !envy | ahorner
[10:10] <ubotu> ahorner: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:10] <god> d-link dsl-302t
[10:10] <scorp123> fred__: check the upper half of the output if there is anything saying "0.0.0.0: 80"
[10:10] <nickrud> wols_, not mine, well true I've only used a half dozen or so, but they all were 0.1
[10:10] <ahorner> ...
[10:10] <wols_> dpomp:  find out the pci id or usb id
[10:10] <Gnea> finalbeta: hrm, i almost have it working...
[10:11] <dpomp> how?
[10:11] <god> wols_d-link dsl-302t
[10:11] <wols_> nickrud: mine is .2.1 even and mayn are 1.1
[10:11] <DemisM> anyone use nm-applet?
[10:11] <fred__> corp: nothing on port 80 there
[10:11] <Gnea> finalbeta: xrdp runs on the remote ubuntu system, tsclient will connect to it and ask for a user/pass
[10:11] <nickrud> wols_, but the key is to heck with anything but setting up the modem directly
[10:11] <gnomefreak> dpomp: try lspci
[10:12] <ahorner> anybody know why when ii install feisty on my emachines w3502, it wont recognize it as a boot disk
[10:12] <Gnea> finalbeta: looks like it works just fine, not entirely sure how to get it going from there tho
[10:12] <finalbeta> Gnea: great, you got it working then? Or the password you input is not accepted?
[10:12] <dpomp> infront of the card name is 02:02.0
[10:12] <dpomp> is that it?
[10:13] <Gnea> finalbeta: well i put in password and it recycles back to the user/pass screen
[10:13] <soundray> ahorner: probably something went wrong at the grub stage. Follow the Recovering... instructions from ubotu:
[10:13] <soundray> !grub | ahorner
[10:13] <ubotu> ahorner: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ahorner: your bios are not set to boot from cd
[10:13] <wols_> god: look on your manual on page 16. or look at page 16 here: http://dlink-me.com/ftp/modems/DSL-302T/DSL302T_Manual_2_00.pdf
[10:13] <finalbeta> Gnea: don't know how that rdp client is bound to the system, in windows it just takes the user to the logon screen. And you start a normal session from there. In linux it can't be that easy, so I don't know, you probably need to set some options as to how you want it working.
[10:14] <Gnea> finalbeta: oh wait, i just had to wait.. holy ****, it works!
[10:14] <ahorner> gnome.
[10:14] <Gnea> it just loaded E
[10:14] <ahorner> i already installed it
[10:14] <wols_> god: you remove ALL ppp stuff and then use a browser to connect to http://192.168.1.1 and there you configure it
[10:14] <Gnea> finalbeta: oh... it's that easy
[10:14] <ahorner> im not retarded, i know how set it to boot fomr the hd
[10:14] <GizDrak-Server> Anyone know anything about netatalk and users. I can get only 1 out of my 3 accounts to login to the netatalk volumes. but there seems to be nothing wrong with the accounts.
[10:14] <DemisM> in nm-applet if i change it to manual config how cna i change it back? Now when i left click i don't get a list of networks like before or anything similar, any ideas?
[10:14] <finalbeta> Gnea: nice, I hope it's as fast as on windows, it's also encrypted.
[10:14] <wols_> god: you enter usename password there on the modem and let it connect
[10:14] <ahorner> but it thinks theres nothing on the hd to boot fromn
[10:14] <Gnea> finalbeta: yeah, this is MUCH better than vnc... wow
[10:15] <capiira> hmmm what is a good secure trustful ftp server with lot of features?
[10:15] <soundray> ahorner: did you get mine and ubotu's messages?
[10:15] <ahorner> no
[10:15] <Tremitos> you tell me ;)
[10:15] <shut-> can i make it so ubuntu and windows are installeD?
[10:15] <soundray> ahorner: probably something went wrong at the grub stage. Follow the Recovering... instructions from ubotu:
[10:15] <soundray> !grub | ahorner
[10:15] <ubotu> ahorner: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:15] <ahorner> ehh
[10:15] <ahorner> i got it
[10:15] <nickrud> !dualboot | shut
[10:15] <ubotu> shut: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:15] <ahorner> i just put 6.1 on and ill upgrade in a bit
[10:15] <ahorner> im using it now.
[10:15] <simpleH> Hi, my startup is hanging for a few minutes at configuring network interfaces, what should I do?
[10:15] <slowfast> I boot into Kubuntu.  However, when I log out and log into a new gnome session, the window do not have any title bars.  When I attempt to execute a gnome program, e.g., gdmflexiserver, the error message "GDM (The GNOME Display Manager) is not running"  How can I fix this?
[10:15] <dpomp> wols_, this is what i get is lspci, 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[10:15] <dpomp> whats the ID?
[10:15] <Gnea> finalbeta: hrm, i can't move windows around in it... weird
[10:16] <god> wols_ ok thank you...it is just that i had tu use a software packeage for pc
[10:16] <god> wols_ thanks a lot
[10:16] <livingdaylight> i've installed Democracy through Synaptic but i can't find it anywhere in my Applications Menu... anone got any ideas?
[10:16] <god> u r the best :)
[10:16] <god> good bie
[10:16] <wols_> god: if you do that you shouldn't need a software package anymore
[10:16] <EI-GrAd> Hello!... Is there anybody wrote drivers? sorry for my english... Need to make up webcam on Acer... not by Logitech... by ALi... it seems to be there is no driver for it...
[10:17] <ahorner> uhh
[10:17] <ahorner> www.acer.com
[10:17] <wols_> EI-GrAd: unlikely you find a usb webcma driver programmer here. very unlikely
[10:17] <finalbeta> Gnea: if you have a vnc server running at the same time, it might give problems.
[10:17] <EI-GrAd> no intresting there
[10:17] <nickrud> livingdaylight, dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin ; that will tell you the executables in the package, and you can then add it to the menu
[10:17] <ahorner> el-grad if it came with your machine, go to acer's site and download the driers there
[10:17] <ahorner> drivers*
[10:18] <fr3ddy> anyone know how to boot a laptop from network plz ?
[10:18] <dpomp> how do i get the pic id?
[10:18] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to change sources in kismet for ipw3945?  im not sure what im doing.. here is the line i need   "source=none,none,addme" what does this mean?
[10:18] <Gnea> finalbeta: oh wait, i just had to tell tsclient to let it use window manager borders - works now
[10:19] <Gnea> finalbeta: this is pretty nice. so what was the problem?
[10:19] <finalbeta> Gnea: no problem, just asked if anyone had tried it. I'll probably install it myself now. Since I dislike VNC so much.
[10:19] <HariYukai> Hey, um, I need a little help here please.
[10:19] <wols_> dpomp: lspci
[10:19] <fred__> how do i get apache2 running... installed with sudo apt-get install apache2 but localhost comes up blank
[10:19] <simpleH> can anyone tell me what might be wrong with my ubuntu hanging at "Configuring network interfaces" at startup?
[10:20] <wols_> fred__: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:20] <dpomp> i tried that, i got 02:02 but it says its an invalid id
[10:20] <t2> hi,  are there any problems with tor and privoxy on feisty ?   I followed all steps from ubuntu forums including editing privoxy config file and yet websites do not load in firefox after i enable tor with TorButton extension.. any idea what could be happening ?
[10:20] <HariYukai> Can someone tell me where I'm supposed to put this?: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] 
[10:20] <HariYukai> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
[10:20] <HariYukai> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner> ipconfig
[10:20] <HariYukai> Windows IP Configuration
[10:20] <HariYukai> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
[10:20] <HariYukai>         Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
[10:20] <HariYukai>         IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
[10:20] <fred__> wols: that doesn't do it
[10:20] <HariYukai>         Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
[10:20] <HariYukai>         Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
[10:20] <soundray> EI-GrAd: is your camera listed when you type lspci or lsusb?
[10:20] <wols_> simpleH: no dhcpserver found probably
[10:20] <HariYukai> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>
[10:20] <ahorner> i keep getting a dependency is not satisfiable: module assistant error when i go to nstall envy
[10:20] <wols_> HariYukai: n a pastebin!
[10:20] <HariYukai> What's a pastebin?
[10:21] <Gnea> finalbeta: it's easy - make && make install && export PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/xrdp" && export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/xrdp" && xrdp_control.sh start
[10:21] <scorp123> !pastebin
[10:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <livingdaylight> nickrud, thx
[10:21] <HariYukai> Ohhhhh!
[10:21] <Gnea> finalbeta: all as root
[10:21] <wols_> fred__: eithre you give me more error messages to work with or you are on your own
[10:21] <EI-GrAd>  soundray, yes... it listed as  "Bus 005 Device 007: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. "
[10:21] <HariYukai> But anyways, sorry for the flood.
[10:21] <wols_> 2doesn't do" is no error message
[10:21] <finalbeta> Gnea, I'll try right now then.
[10:21] <simpleH> wols_: it takes like a minute to get past that stage at bootup...there isn't an ethernet cable plugged in, I'm just using wireless
[10:21] <fred__> ok when i run that command ... nothing happens
[10:21] <fred__> just returns to prompt
[10:21] <dennis__> have an  issue with USB stick sandisk cruzer  4 gig
[10:21] <Gnea> oh WOW, the wireless epplet is actually *working*
[10:21] <HariYukai> But anwyays, about said text; Where am I supposed to put it in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <fred__> when i type in http://localhost   .... nothing there either
[10:22] <nickrud> livingdaylight, yw
[10:22] <wols_> fred__: I asked you to run a command some time ago. do that
[10:22] <fred__> i did
[10:22] <ahorner> dennis i have the same flash dirve :) i love it
[10:22] <wols_> HariYukai: man interfaces. but it looks like dhcp to me, so no need
[10:22] <dennis__> ehhm it fails to mount  properly ..
[10:22] <HariYukai> Main interfaces? Dhcp?
[10:22] <HariYukai> Well, okies.
[10:22] <wols_> fred__: then there are error logs. look at them
[10:22] <ahorner> umm
[10:22] <HariYukai> I'll try it.
[10:22] <nickrud> imbecile, something like ipw3945,eth0,Ilikethisname
[10:22] <ahorner> do sudo fdisk -l
[10:22] <ahorner> thats an L
[10:23] <ahorner> lol
[10:23] <imbecile> nickrud,  ty
[10:23] <wols_> ahorner: what card? and is the interface listed when you do /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[10:23] <dennis__> ehm  tried that   first  sudo su  got #  tried then fdisk -l  .. it hangs
[10:23] <ahorner> wols what are you talking about
[10:23] <soundray> EI-GrAd: it seems that there is no mature driver at present. Have a look at this article: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/bisoncam-ali-m5603c-linux-driver-round-up/
[10:23] <dennis__> cheers
[10:24] <ahorner> hmm
[10:24] <ahorner> is it possible for you to format it on a different computer?
[10:24] <wols_> ahorner: nothing. he's gone
[10:24] <ahorner> oh
[10:24] <fred__> wols: where are these apache error logs located at?
[10:24] <alexnick> I'm having some problems with Synaptic.
[10:24] <EI-GrAd> soundray , i saw..)
[10:24] <wols_> fred__: where all logs are /var/log/
[10:24] <ahorner> !repositories
[10:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:24] <wols_> fred__: also, dpkg -l |grep apache
[10:24] <livingdaylight> nickrud, dpkg -L democracy  | grep bin             and it says that it is not installed; i tried with capital D too but that produced the same result, yet i clearly installed it with synaptic?! :o
[10:25] <alexnick> I tried running 'dpkg --configure -a' but it says I need a superuser priviledge.
[10:25] <dennis__> I'll try that ..   not to worry  cheers
[10:25] <simpleH> how would I lower the priority of networking in the boot process? so it doesn't hang at "configuring network interfaces" for 3 minutes or so?
[10:25] <wols_> livingdaylight: dpkg -l |grep emocracy
[10:25] <wols_> simpleH: you don't. you remove the auto eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces
[10:25] <wols_> alexnick: sudo
[10:25] <fred__> wols: root@ubuntu:/# dpkg -l | grep apache
[10:25] <fred__> rc  apache                                     1.3.34-4.1                             versatile, high-performance HTTP server
[10:25] <fred__> ii  apache-common                              1.3.34-4.1                             support files for all Apache webservers
[10:25] <fred__> ii  apache2                                    2.2.3-3.2build1                        Next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[10:25] <fred__> ii  apache2-mpm-prefork                        2.2.3-3.2build1                        Traditional model for Apache HTTPD 2.1
[10:25] <fred__> ii  apache2-utils                              2.2.3-3.2build1                        utility programs for webservers
[10:25] <kaktuskatta> Hi! Is it possible to remove libmtp 0.1.3 without removing Amarok? I want to use libmtp 0.1.5 because I need it when running Gnomad!
[10:26] <fred__> ii  apache2.2-common                           2.2.3-3.2build1                        Next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[10:26] <wols_> fred__: stop!
[10:26] <fred__> ii  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql                  4.3.9-2.1ubuntu2                       Apache 2 module for MySQL authentication
[10:26] <fred__> ii  libapache2-mod-bt                          0.0.19+p4.2296-1ubuntu1                BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web serve
[10:26] <fred__> ii  libapache2-mod-php5                        5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2                       server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
[10:26] <simpleH> wols_: ok, I'll try that
[10:26] <kaktuskatta> PM please
[10:26] <fred__> ii  php5-apache2-mod-bt                        0.0.19+p4.2296-1ubuntu1                PHP bindings for mod_bt
[10:26] <fred__> root@ubuntu:/#
[10:26] <ahorner> !pastebin
[10:26] <fred__> ok
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <wols_> kaktuskatta: install libmtp 0.1.5 then
[10:27] <PIPBoy_> can anyone tell me how to eject my cdrom from the command line?
[10:27] <wols_> PIPBoy_: man eject
[10:27] <PIPBoy_> i cant get it to eject its telling me i need to be root
[10:27] <wols_> sudo then
[10:27] <soundray> PIPBoy_: sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[10:27] <kaktuskatta> wols_: But How can I set up Amarok to use that version of libmtp instead of 0.1.3 which is suggested in Synaptic?
[10:27] <fred__> im just trying to get this resolved, read tons of how tos, and all through the ubuntu boards
[10:27] <livingdaylight> wols_, thanks again... but it still doesn't tell me where it is or how i can launch it
[10:28] <wols_> kaktuskatta: what happens if you apt-get install 0.1.5? pastebin it please
[10:28] <wols_> livingdaylight: what does it say?
[10:28] <PIPBoy_> THANKS!
[10:28] <iTurtle> Hi. How can I view the workspace cube with desktop effects?
[10:28] <Geoffrey2> is there anything additional I need to add to make Totem Movie Player play DVDs?
[10:28] <ahorner> urgh
[10:28] <ahorner> decoder..
[10:28] <wols_> !effects | iTurtle
[10:28] <ubotu> iTurtle: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:28] <iTurtle> wols_:thanks
[10:28] <wols_> !dvd | Geoffrey2
[10:28] <PIPBoy_> bye all! thanks for the help!
[10:28] <ubotu> Geoffrey2: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:28] <nickrud> !libdvdcss | Geoffrey2
[10:29] <ahorner> i need to know why envy isnt installing right..
[10:29] <wols_> !envy | ahorner
[10:29] <PIPBoy_> oh actually, can anyone tell me what the difference between kde and gnome is? like is one better than the other?
[10:29] <ubotu> ahorner: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:29] <simpleH> wols_: remove "auto eth0" and nothing else from /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:29] <nickrud> livingdaylight, if it showed as installed, add the | grep bin.
[10:29] <wols_> simpleH: yes
[10:29] <simpleH> alright, thanks
[10:29] <wols_> PIPBoy_: it's just different. and people love choice
[10:29] <darwin81> My cursor keeps randomly disappearing in Firefox.
[10:30] <soundray> PIPBoy_: it's a matter of taste. KDE generally leaves you more choices, while gnome is not as easy to mess up.
[10:30] <jrib> PIPBoy_: try both and see what you like (you can install both and choose at login)
[10:30] <wols_> livingdaylight: I am waiting
[10:30] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, I instlled libdvdcss2, when I go to play the DVD, I get a message...Totem could not play 'dvd:/'.  There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[10:30] <ahorner> stupid ebuntu not really supporting envy any more >_<
[10:30] <ahorner> ubuntu*
[10:30] <wols_> Geoffrey2: mpeg2 codecs installed?
[10:30] <ahorner> i think i might've gotten it thought
[10:30] <livingdaylight> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26792/
[10:30] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, try installing totem-xine ,
[10:30] <finalbeta> !paste
[10:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:31] <carajea1> anyone know how to gain permission on ubuntu to let me right to my second hard drive? I can not even copy a folder over to it.
[10:31] <finalbeta> Gnea: The make already errors out for me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26793/
[10:31] <ahorner> is there a terminal command for beryl?
[10:31] <wols_> livingdaylight: dpkg -L democracy-player |grep bin
[10:31] <soundray> carajea1: is it mounted?
[10:31] <wols_> !effects | ahorner
[10:31] <ubotu> ahorner: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:31] <ahorner> ..
[10:31] <ahorner> u wish
[10:31] <ahorner> lol
[10:31] <criptical> does anyone know how to add the Universe and Multiverse Repositories?
[10:31] <kaktuskatta> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26794/
[10:32] <soundray> !repos > criptical, please read the private message from ubotu
[10:32] <ahorner> !repositories
[10:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:32] <acke> hey guys, i want to set up a audio studio. what audio recording applications are there for ubuntu for recording and mixing audio?
[10:32] <livingdaylight> wols_, now it says its not there again :S
[10:32] <livingdaylight> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26795/
[10:32] <wols_> info libmpt5
[10:32] <ahorner> criptical: go to system, administration, synaptic manager and tell me when you're there
[10:33] <frojnd> how can I make screen shot with vlc ?
[10:33] <ahorner> applications>accessories>take screenshot
[10:33] <wols_> livingdaylight: dpkg -L democracyplayer |grep bin
[10:33] <Geoffrey2> wols_, libmpeg2-4?
[10:33] <carajea1> yes it is mounted
[10:33] <carajea1> i can see it and access the files i just need to copy to it
[10:33] <kaktuskatta> wols_: any idea?
[10:33] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, totem-xine is the version I have installed
[10:33] <Blissex> ack: lots, quite professional ones. There are a number of ''audio and GNU/Linux'' sites out there...
[10:33] <carajea1> and it wont let me
[10:33] <Blissex> acke: lots, quite professional ones. There are a number of ''audio and GNU/Linux'' sites out there...
[10:34] <criptical> I am there
[10:34] <wols_> !info libmtp5
[10:34] <ubotu> libmtp5: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 90 kB, installed size 312 kB
[10:34] <Tikka> gnomefreak, sorry for delayed reply http://rafb.net/p/AXaNmf73.html
[10:34] <wols_> kaktuskatta: where do you expect to get 0.1.5 from?
[10:34] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, how'd you install the libdvdcss?
[10:34] <ahorner> in my pants
[10:34] <Tikka> anyone know why grep and cat would play up, claiming an invalid parameter.. such as.. cat * will claim that -a was used. grep also errors with a different parameter. http://rafb.net/p/AXaNmf73.html
[10:34] <Blissex> acke: look at this list of audio software: http://demudi.agnula.info/wiki/DocumentsSoftware
[10:34] <kaktuskatta> wols_: I have already installed that manually through the gnomad oages
[10:34] <kaktuskatta> wols_: pages*
[10:34] <acke> blissex youve got some application names for me to take down on paper? hould you help me get a list or something?
[10:34] <Blissex> Tikka: that's pretty obvious.
[10:35] <acke> Blissex: ooh ill look there
[10:35] <wols_> kaktuskatta: why and how?
[10:35] <soundray> carajea1: what's the mountpoint?
[10:35] <Tikka> Blissex, yea?
[10:35] <kaktuskatta> wols_: http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[10:35] <wols_> kaktuskatta: and how?
[10:35] <Blissex> acke: you got some files with names beginning with "-".
[10:35] <kaktuskatta> wols_: That was the recommended software for my player
[10:35] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, through Synaptic
[10:35] <livingdaylight> wols_, at last ^^ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26796/ and now i create launcher with path pointing to /usr/bin ?
[10:35] <wols_> !info gnomad
[10:35] <ubotu> Package gnomad does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:36] <Tikka> Blissex, http://rafb.net/p/7fYJaC74.html different install
[10:36] <wols_> livingdaylight: sure. whever it is
[10:36] <kaktuskatta> They also recommended me to upgrade to the latest version since 0.1.3 doesn't work with Gnomad
[10:36] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, you added a repo for that then
[10:36] <Blissex> Tikka: just write "./*" instead of just "*", and miracles will happen.
[10:36] <kaktuskatta> wols_: manual installation from source
[10:36] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, yes
[10:36] <livingdaylight> wols_, is this my line? /usr/bin/democracyplayer.real
[10:37] <wols_> livingdaylight: probably. never run it. jsut try it in a xterm
[10:37] <Blissex> Tikka: alternatively 'grp [options]  -- *'
[10:37] <ahorner> !beryl
[10:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:37] <doobeh> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from the shell, or do you have to go via the GUI?
[10:37] <Tikka> Blissex, thats the first time its happened to me. thanks for solving :)
[10:37] <wols_> doobeh: alternate install de. or when it's installed, use aptitude to install stuff
[10:37] <wols_> all on the CLI
[10:37] <Geoffrey2> nickrud, it's libdvdcss2 from the mediabuntu repository
[10:37] <carajea1> sda2
[10:37] <livingdaylight> wolki, xterm = konsole?
[10:38] <Blissex> Tikka: the big point here is that "*" is expanded _before_ the command is run, which is different from other operating systems and shells.
[10:38] <mike3_> Is the linux kernel under Ubuntu compiled to have every single module enabled? The udev to detect all necessary modules to auto load?
[10:38] <wols_> livingdaylight: sure. anything that's your xterm
[10:38] <carajea1> here is another small question i dowloaded a dvd iso how do i burn it in linux???
[10:38] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, huh. I just realized I haven't installed dvdcss on this machine. A few secs
[10:38] <wols_> mike3_: mostly yes. sorta
[10:38] <wols_> mike3_: but some hardware needs special firmware for example
[10:38] <mike3_> wols_, what do you mean sorta?
[10:38] <scorp123> carajea1: k3b
[10:38] <wols_> carajea1: k3b, gnomebaker
[10:38] <doobeh> wols, what's de. short for? :)
[10:39] <mike3_> well some hardware isn't supported. I know that
[10:39] <wols_> mike3_: that not all can be included in a immediately working way
[10:39] <doobeh> "alternate install de." could you explain that a little more? :)
[10:39] <Tikka> Blissex, yea i understand that. although cat and grep can normally take multiple filenames so why did it not work properly that time ?
[10:39] <carajea1> now it has to be bootable
[10:39] <wols_> doobeh: de = CD. typo
[10:39] <Blissex> Tikka: because some files have names beginning with "-".
[10:39] <mike3_> wols_, what?
[10:39] <wols_> carajea1: doesn#t matter. just burn it as image
[10:39] <carajea1> which is better or should i say easier
[10:39] <doobeh> Ahh, okay, alternate cd.  Brilliant, thanks wols
[10:39] <soundray> carajea1: what about your other question? You stopped replying to me.
[10:39] <Tikka> Blissex, ahhhh damn it! hah. ok thanks lol.
[10:40] <carajea1> i followed the ubuntu fiesty guide and it seems easy just write click and hit write
[10:40] <Tikka> Blissex, much appreciated :D
[10:40] <wols_> mike3_: I already answered you
[10:40] <Blissex> Tikka: so if you say "./*" they no longer begin with a "-"....
[10:40] <carajea1> but i do need to get that other drive mounted so i can save some stuff to it
[10:40] <mike3_> wols_, Does udev do the auto detecting?
[10:40] <carajea1> its is sda2
[10:40] <wols_> mike3_: usually yes
[10:40] <Tikka> Blissex, yea i can see what you mean now. makes total sense.
[10:40] <mike3_> usually? What would be the alternative then?
[10:41] <scorp123> mike3_: prayers? :)
[10:41] <carajea1> its /media/Storage is the full name
[10:41] <wols_> mike3_: do your question lead to something ubuntu specific?
[10:41] <acke> blissex starting with "-" ?
[10:41] <kaktuskatta> wols_: For some reason I managed to get it to work by adding and removing libmtp 0.1.3 once more
[10:42] <criptical> does anyone know how to add the Universe and Multiverse Repositories?
[10:42] <wols_> !multiverse
[10:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:42] <XiXaQ> how can I configure how often the clock if synchronized with ntp servers?
[10:42] <Blissex> acke: "echo a > ./-file; cat -file"
[10:42] <wols_> !easysource | criptical
[10:42] <ubotu> criptical: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:42] <ryan__> hey does anyone know if feisty fawn can read and write nfts without any special software?
[10:42] <scorp123> !ntfs
[10:42] <wols_> !ntfs-3g | ryan__
[10:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:42] <ubotu> ryan__: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:43] <ryan__> so it doesnt come standard?
[10:43] <mike3_> wols_, No I am new to Ubuntu and I just have some questions
[10:44] <scorp123> ryan__: NTFS is a Microsoft thing ...
[10:44] <A[D] minS> !drupal
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drupal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <ryan__> lol yes thanks scorp for the obvious
[10:45] <ryan__> I have a dual boot system
[10:45] <ryan__> with xp
[10:45] <hosk> so occasionally my system will hang for a half second and the last letter i typed will turn into about 166666666, i mean 8, is there a way to fix that
[10:45] <ryan__> Im just moving files from the windows partition
[10:45] <A[D] minS> Guys
[10:45] <A[D] minS> i installed drupal
[10:45] <A[D] minS> but to be honest i duno where it installed
[10:45] <Tikka> A[D] minS why?
[10:45] <Tikka> ;p
[10:45] <A[D] minS> or where i should fined the files
[10:46] <Asauce> I have this weird problem... I manually configured my wireless card, and I can now browse the net and IM just fine, but the downloading updates and packages doesn't work.
[10:46] <W3ird_N3rd> is it normal for Kaffeine to take 20 seconds to start, and 12 seconds for firefox?
[10:46] <TaJMoX> asauce try sudo apt-get update
[10:46] <ndee> not really an ubuntu question but how would you search for sounds of rain on google?
[10:47] <TaJMoX> ndee : rain filetype:wav
[10:47] <W3ird_N3rd> http://www.altavista.com/audio/results?itag=ody&q=rain&maf=mp3&maf=wav&maf=msmedia&maf=realmedia&maf=aiff&maf=other&mad=all ?
[10:47] <Asauce> "apt-get update" it won't connect.
[10:48] <HariYukai> Sorry to sound dumb, but where's the "Main interfaces"?
[10:48] <Flannel> Asauce: what errors does it give?
[10:48] <darwin81> Azureus is still crashing when it starts for me.
[10:48] <acke> Blissex: guess not
[10:48] <kanpachi> hello, i'm using feisty, and i installed the nvidia driver via the envy script, and it feels abit sluggish, esp when using rhytmbox with epiphany, what do i do please?
[10:48] <Asauce> "Cannot resolve securty.ubuntu.com" or something to that extent.
[10:49] <ryan__> do you ever need to defrag in ubuntu?
[10:49] <carajea1> ok this is crazy i cant boot to any disk cause of an unclean logfile
[10:49] <wols_> !envy | kanpachi
[10:49] <ubotu> kanpachi: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:49] <carajea1> im getting really angry
[10:49] <carajea1> all i need to do is save wow
[10:49] <wols_> ryan__: not really. there are some corner cases but they are very rare
[10:49] <PIPBoy_> yeah id like to know if you ever have to defrag ubuntu also
[10:49] <Littlebob> when installing ubuntu with windows on another partition will the installer set it up to dual boot?
[10:49] <kanpachi> is there any way back? i mean, will it be ok if i uninstall it now?
[10:49] <ryan__> ok excellent
[10:49] <wols_> Littlebob: yes
[10:50] <ryan__> is a swap file necessary for regular every computing use?
[10:50] <wols_> kanpachi: don't ask us. ask envy
[10:50] <Littlebob> wols_: thanks
[10:50] <ryan__> everday**
[10:50] <Bassetts> is there a guide to doing a dist upgrade?
[10:50] <W3ird_N3rd> is it normal for firefox to take 12 seconds to start after a cold boot?
[10:50] <wols_> ryan__: it's recommended. doesn't have to be big
[10:50] <PIPBoy_> do you ever have to defrag ubuntu?
[10:50] <Flannel> !upgrade | Bassetts
[10:50] <ubotu> Bassetts: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:50] <Bassetts> thanks Flannel
[10:50] <Tikka> W3ird_N3rd: using any addons ?
[10:50] <dyrne> PIPBoy_: answer to defrag is no. the file system is sort of 'self correcting'
[10:50] <ryan__> ok I made one but it didnt work out during the installation
[10:50] <ryan__> so I skipped it
[10:50] <wols_> dyrne: to a degree, yes
[10:50] <W3ird_N3rd> Tikka: all applications load slowly. Kaffeine takes 20 seconds
[10:50] <HariYukai> ...Help me someone? Please? ^^;;
[10:50] <ryan__> is there anyway to add one after the fact?
[10:51] <wols_> ryan__: you can later use a swap file
[10:51] <W3ird_N3rd> Wine takes 8 seconds
[10:51] <wols_> ryan__: there is. but manually. or a swap fil
[10:51] <wols_> file
[10:51] <ryan__> ok is there any guides to adding one after you installed ubuntu
[10:51] <Asauce> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419709 That's the guide I used, and as I said.. it half works.
[10:51] <Tikka> W3ird_N3rd: maybe hdparm may help
[10:51] <Tikka> W3ird_N3rd, that or prelinking
[10:51] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: dmesg|grep dma
[10:51] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: dmesg|grep -i dma
[10:51] <W3ird_N3rd> harddisk seems ok
[10:51] <Flannel> !swap | ryan__
[10:51] <ubotu> ryan__: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:52] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: hdparm -tT /dev/sda (or /dev/hda). what speeds do you get?
[10:52] <ryan__> what does !swap Ryan mean?
[10:52] <ryan__> lol
[10:52] <htraki> hi,everyone
[10:52] <wols_> ryan__: it's a command for ubotu as you can see
[10:52] <wols_> !hi
[10:53] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:53] <ryan__> what does it do?
[10:53] <wols_> it's a bot
[10:53] <ryan__> loads up info for me on here?
[10:53] <htraki> Does anybody know where can I get ntfs-3g binary for edgy
[10:53] <scorp123> ryan__: duuuude, read the chat window, yes?
[10:53] <htraki> ?
[10:53] <scorp123> !ntfs-3g
[10:53] <supremesonic> !wanna talk?
[10:53] <wols_> htraki: check backports
[10:53] <asherZ> Hi im having trouble w/ ubuntu fiesty "system > preferences > main menu" it wont load =[
[10:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wanna talk? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <wols_> supremesonic: don't do this
[10:54] <ryan__> good god people
[10:54] <ryan__> heh
[10:54] <ryan__> simple questions
[10:54] <supremesonic> wols_ he said he didn't wanna talk :(
[10:54] <wols_> supremesonic: I wouldn't wanna talk with you either
[10:54] <W3ird_N3rd> wols_: 751MB/s cached and 32,39MB/s buffered
[10:54] <supremesonic> wols_ I don't wanna talk with you either
[10:54] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: whard kind of disk?
[10:55] <W3ird_N3rd> Samsung 40GB laptop drive
[10:55] <W3ird_N3rd> mounted in a desktop
[10:55] <Kaitlyn2004> I have no idea where I would ask this question.. .so I'll ask here :). I am trying my motherboard out of a case... how do I turn it on? :)
[10:55] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: then it's possible
[10:55] <wols_> notebook drives are slow
[10:55] <W3ird_N3rd> yes, but 12 seconds for firefox and 20 for kaffeine?
[10:55] <wols_> Kaitlyn2004: #hardware
[10:55] <asherZ> anyone know how to get main menu config editor in system.. preferences working again??
[10:56] <wols_> W3ird_N3rd: low RAM?
[10:56] <W3ird_N3rd> 1GB PC3200
[10:56] <ryan__> interestingly I made a swap file with more than 2 gigs
[10:56] <HariYukai> So, um...
[10:56] <HariYukai> Where's the "Main interfaces" located on Ubuntu?
[10:56] <ryan__> in gparted and then when I went to install ubuntu it didnt recognize the swap file as bigger than 1 kb
[10:56] <soundray> HariYukai: System-Administration-Network
[10:56] <doobeh> Kaitlyn2004: you need to create a connection between the jumpers used on the power switch
[10:56] <doobeh> that's all your power button does
[10:56] <ryan__> I even reformated it in ubuntu as a swap during the installation
[10:56] <nickrud> asherZ, try running alacarte in a terminal (that's what's run by the menu item)
[10:56] <HariYukai> Alright, thanks! ^_^
[10:56] <wols_> ryan__: you make a swapfile with ubuntu you can't do it outside
[10:57] <wols_> and you need ro format it too. mkfs.swap for example
[10:57] <asherZ> nickrud~ thx ill try it now
[10:57] <ryan__> I made it with gparted
[10:57] <W3ird_N3rd> any other ideas wols_?
[10:57] <ryan__> a swap file partition
[10:58] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: run 'top' in a terminal to see if something is hogging the CPU
[10:58] <W3ird_N3rd> nope
[10:58] <asherZ> nickrud, it gave me importerror: no module name Alacarte.MainWindow
[10:59] <frandavid100> hi guys
[10:59] <W3ird_N3rd> vino-server takes some CPU time, but live it's just as slow.
[10:59] <frandavid100> where are packages downloaded through synaptic stored?
[10:59] <teamwork> W3ird_N3rd, wols_ , localhost not set up correctly, perhaps?
[10:59] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: if you exit firefox and start it again, does it come up quick?
[10:59] <W3ird_N3rd> yes when I do that it's very quick
[10:59] <nickrud> asherZ, try sudo aptitude reinstall alacarte
[11:00] <asherZ> nickrud, ok thanks 1 sec
[11:00] <W3ird_N3rd> kaffeine also loads in 2 secs if I close it and start it again soundray
[11:00] <ryan__> anyone know how to resolve skype problems?
[11:00] <htraki> Thanks
[11:00] <ryan__> like poor mic quality etc
[11:00] <W3ird_N3rd> only the first time takes 20 secs (12 for firefox)
[11:00] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: so the problem is in the IDE subsystem
[11:00] <rebelfallen> Is there any way to run VirtualBox with Ubuntu on my Windows XP machine? Seems there is no mouse control
[11:00] <nickrud> frandavid100, /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:00] <W3ird_N3rd> soundray, I guess so, but the harddrive seems to be fine?
[11:01] <ryan__> anyway thanks
[11:01] <ryan__> peace
[11:01] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: what do you get from 'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda' (just the two rates)
[11:01] <frandavid100> thanks nickrud
[11:01] <W3ird_N3rd> wols_: 751MB/s cached and 32,39MB/s buffered
[11:01] <asherZ> nickrud, thanks dude. now runs frm systm> pref> main menu =] 
[11:01] <W3ird_N3rd> soundray: 751MB/s cached and 32,39MB/s buffered
[11:01] <Brendan_in_Brazi> need help installing feisty on compaq pII 350mhz. error on install says bios is too old (1998 - needs >2000). There is no >2000 bios available!
[11:01] <nickrud> asherZ, it's strange that that file disappeared
[11:02] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: installing kaffeine here to compare startup time...
[11:02] <imbecile> how do i turn off/reenable my connection for kismet?
[11:03] <ahorner> is graphic sudo gksudo?
[11:03] <yurimxpxman> what's a good P2P app that doesn't use the Gnutella network?
[11:03] <asherZ> nickrud yeah man seems weird.. i am using beyrl with emerald disabled uninstalled compiz and evolution. and changed some stuff nothing to do with alacarte tho :s
[11:03] <ahorner> yurimxpxman: ares
[11:03] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: Azureus
[11:03] <mvlinux> hi ppl
[11:03] <|Porsche> hey how can i retrive my nickserv password?
[11:03] <yurimxpxman> ahorner: thanks
[11:03] <ahorner> no prblem
[11:03] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: sry, doesn't work (I'm probably missing KDE components). How long does oowriter take to start?
[11:03] <yurimxpxman> scorp123: non-bittorrent.. I can't find what I'm looking for on BT
[11:03] <Veinor> Can anybody recommend an application that's good for reminders, etc.? Like Evolution, but without the e-mail stuff.
[11:03] <nickrud> |Porsche, ask in #freenode
[11:04] <imbecile> yurimxpxman,  azureus,amule
[11:04] <ahorner> try emule im not sure if its p2p or bt
[11:04] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: then you're hanging out at the wrong trackers :)
[11:04] <mvlinux> form where i can get some software URL's to install from it using APT ?
[11:04] <imbecile> ahorner,  its p2p
[11:04] <ahorner> ok
[11:04] <yurimxpxman> scorp123: I'm looking for some extremely rare tracks
[11:04] <nickrud> !seveas | mvlinux
[11:04] <ubotu> mvlinux: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:04] <asherZ> i have one more thing thats bugging me though. when i use mouse1 to click on taskbar menu "apps etc" there is a dotted border that appears around it how to i disable it?? anyone know?
[11:04] <ahorner> yurimxpman: try emule also
[11:04] <soundray> !software > mvlinux, please read ubotu's private message
[11:04] <imbecile> yurimxpxman,  you are better off using irc then
[11:04] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: yes, IRC ......
[11:05] <TaJMoX> ahorner you mean amule
[11:05] <yurimxpxman> imbecile: IRC for P2P?
[11:05] <ahorner> TaJMoX: no emule
[11:05] <ekso> hey! why i cant find pidgin in the repositories?
[11:05] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: yes, IRC can be used for P2P too :-)
[11:05] <ahorner> elso: its now gaim
[11:05] <mvlinux> thanx there :)
[11:05] <TaJMoX> ahorner in wine ?
[11:05] <yurimxpxman> scorp123: how would I go about finding what I need over IRC?
[11:05] <TaJMoX> ahorner : i could never get good rates
[11:06] <ahorner> im not sure i dont know it its for windows only
[11:06] <TaJMoX> yurimxpxman : efnet
[11:06] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: check some IRC servers, find if they have "interesting" channels ... e.g. #music ... or stuff like that.
[11:06] <Brendan_in_Brazi> need help installing feisty on compaq pII 350mhz. error on install says bios is too old (1998 - needs >2000). There is no >2000 bios available!
[11:06] <imbecile> yurimxpxman,  try packetnews.com  it is chock full of popups though
[11:06] <TaJMoX> we're not supposed to be discussing illegal activities
[11:06] <ahorner>  Brendan_in_Brazi: new computer :-p
[11:06] <scorp123> yurimxpxman: join those channels and be **extremely nice** and the people there will tell you the rest :-)
[11:06] <dvs01> how do i check what version of ubuntu im running?
[11:06] <imbecile> TaJMoX,  open source music ;P
[11:07] <intangir> is there a way i can install a bunch of 32bit libraries from packages on a 64bit ubuntu install?
[11:07] <W3ird_N3rd> soundray: approx 8 secs
[11:07] <ahorner> dvs01: umm when did u install it
[11:07] <marion> hey for glchess in 3D i've message "OpenGL Python bindings" and "GtkGLExt Python bindings" not exist, help me !!!
[11:07] <TaJMoX> dvs01 uname -a
[11:07] <intangir> i want to install alot of 32libs so i can run 32bit apps
[11:07] <TaJMoX> dvs01 sorry thats not right
[11:07] <dvs01> yea
[11:07] <ahorner> intangir: can you do sudo apt-get update?
[11:07] <jrib> !3dchess > marion (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:07] <ahorner> nvm i dont know what im talking abvout
[11:08] <ahorner> omg my ati driver is hige
[11:08] <ahorner> huge* 51 megs
[11:08] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: 14 seconds here, my HD is almost the same as yours in terms of transfer rates. I think you'll have to live with it or get a faster disk...
[11:09] <soundray> dvs01: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:09] <W3ird_N3rd> soundray: I'll see if the prelinking works/helps. I wouldn't mind having the most-used applications constantly in memory
[11:09] <danh_> how do i join a wireless network without using wifi-radar ?
[11:09] <ahorner> W3ird_N3rd: doesnt ubuntu have a prefetch like cache?
[11:09] <soundray> W3ird_N3rd: good idea, esp. considering you have a gig.
[11:10] <W3ird_N3rd> ahorner: I don't know
[11:10] <dyrne> danh_: what is your device name? ath0 wlan0?
[11:10] <xeno_> Say, it appears my Feisty only sees my cdrw as a readonly device.
[11:10] <ahorner> danh_: do you mean like driectly typing in the ssid?
[11:10] <W3ird_N3rd> soundray, yes that's what I was thinking. About 900MB or so of it is unused anyway.
[11:10] <TaJMoX> dvs01 lsb_release -a
[11:10] <imbecile> yurimxpxman,  pm me
[11:10] <danh_> dyrne: avah
[11:10] <scorp123> dyrne: BTW thanks dude ... your hint about that "job control tty stuff" worked perfectly :)
[11:10] <Elko> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+setgoals wassup?
[11:10] <kromo> there is a way to force a program to use a gettext .mo file?
[11:10] <danh_> dyrne: eth1:avah
[11:10] <xeno_> root@radioflyer:/home/xeno/Desktop# dd if=gutsy-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/scd0
[11:10] <xeno_> dd: opening `/dev/scd0': Read-only file system
[11:11] <dyrne> danh_: 1) iwlist wlan0 scan   2) sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname  3) dhclient wlan0
[11:11] <dyrne> danh_: where wlan0 is whatever
[11:11] <soundray> xeno_: that's not how you burn CDs
[11:11] <dyrne> scorp123: np
[11:11] <ahorner> dangit
[11:11] <ahorner> somebody give me tarball
[11:11] <xeno_> Please correct me then.
[11:11] <yurimxpxman> imbecile: you've got a PM ;-)
[11:11] <xeno_> xfburn isn't working either.
[11:11] <ahorner> sudo apt-get install tarball?
[11:11] <W3ird_N3rd> ahorner: can I enable that somewhere?
[11:11] <danh_> dyrne: I get eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:12] <TaJMoX> ahorner make your own : tar cvf tarfile.tar /pathtofiles/*
[11:12] <soundray> xeno_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:12] <xeno_> Thank you.
[11:12] <dyrne> danh_: does it work with wifiradar right now?
[11:12] <W3ird_N3rd> I just want 3 specific applications constantly in memory
[11:12] <ahorner> W3ird_N3rd: i dont know i was asking you if you knew if there was one or not
[11:12] <intel202020> CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT,
[11:12] <intel202020> CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT, CUNT,
[11:12] <ahorner> lol
[11:12] <TaJMoX> nice
[11:12] <intangir> baned
[11:12] <ahorner> lol
[11:12] <Otacon22> imbecile, in italian imbecille with 2 "l" means "stupid" :)
[11:12] <intangir> guess hes not a linux fan
[11:12] <ahorner> ip or sn
[11:13] <ahorner> ive never heard of the 'cunt' distrobution
[11:13] <supremesonic> lol
[11:13] <ahorner> lol
[11:13] <zaggynl> heh
[11:13] <soundray> Otacon22: in English it means the same, even with one l
[11:13] <TaJMoX> its windows
[11:13] <ahorner> lmao
[11:13] <DjViper> centOS ? or cuntos? dont make me confused please :P
[11:13] <marion> in french too
[11:13] <ahorner> lmao
[11:13] <W3ird_N3rd> ahorner: once an application has been run and you close it, it does start quickly after that. So it caches something, but I want to it cache right on booting
[11:13] <intangir> with 'cunt' distros, too open of source is bad
[11:13] <ahorner> cuntOS
[11:13] <intangir> and stinky
[11:13] <bnall> anyone know where i can get dvdrom drivers? getting an error trying to open anything from cd
[11:13] <ahorner> LMAO
[11:13] <ahorner> W3ird_N3rd: ok but i dont have any idea
[11:14] <badelatsche> hi
[11:14] <ahorner> with 'cunt' distros, too open of source is bad lmao
[11:14] <SeanTater> How do I optimize a package without apt-build? (like applying -march i686 or -march athlon) ?
[11:14] <ahorner> good one intagir
[11:14] <soundray> !welcome | badelatsche
[11:14] <intangir> lol ya you want to keep that private
[11:14] <ahorner> lmao
[11:14] <ubotu> badelatsche: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:14] <ahorner> u crack me up
[11:14] <W3ird_N3rd> Otacon22: in Dutch as well
[11:14] <intangir> share that too much and someone will leave viruses
[11:14] <W3ird_N3rd> I guess imbiciel is pretty universal
[11:14] <ahorner> .
[11:14] <ahorner> lmao ur funny
[11:14] <danh_> dyrne: i get this error when running wifi-radar: Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:14] <danh_>   File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1414, in <module>
[11:14] <danh_>     auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )
[11:14] <danh_> AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split'
[11:14] <danh_> dyrne: it worked a few days ago!  dunno what could have changed
[11:15] <aroo> !paste
[11:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:15] <jrib> danh_: did you try renaming any hidden directories that wifi-radar uses in your home directory?
[11:15] <towlieban> hi
[11:15] <ahorner> what's a good beryl theme
[11:15] <soundray> !welcome | towlieban
[11:15] <ubotu> towlieban: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[11:15] <aroo> ahorner: it's up to you to decide that
[11:16] <bnall> help - just installed ubuntu. can't read anything from cd
[11:16] <WaxyFresh> my videos keep skiping or the sound plays slower then the video,is there a way to fix this?ive tryed mplayer movie player and a few others
[11:16] <kevin> whats the problem?
[11:16] <HoocH_LAP_> Anyone here good with crontab ?
[11:16] <kevin> bnall... what's the problem?
[11:16] <bnall> i get an error that the drive couldn't be mounted
[11:17] <bnall> tried several different cds
[11:17] <bbrazil> HoocH_LAP_: what's your actual question?
[11:17] <kevin> what kind of cd?
[11:17] <scorp123> HoocH_LAP_: Google around .... there are plenty of good guides for crontab
[11:17] <kevin> music, video...
[11:17] <bnall> tried data music dvd
[11:17] <WaxyFresh> is there a way to make a swap like drive for my video card?i remember seeing something that asked me how much ram i wanted to give my video card once
[11:17] <HoocH_LAP_> I have googled :P not easy finding what I need
[11:17] <kevin> so, for dvd you need the codec
[11:17] <W3ird_N3rd> bnall: does you drive work fine on another OS?
[11:17] <bnall> yeah
[11:17] <danh_> jrib: what would be a directory that wifi-radar uses ?
[11:18] <W3ird_N3rd> does an audio-CD play bnall?
[11:18] <jrib> danh_: I don't know
[11:18] <ahorner> brb
[11:18] <bbrazil> WaxyFresh: you don't want that, and I don't believe it's possible
[11:18] <bnall> i alaready installed the libdvdcss2
[11:18] <HoocH_LAP_> bbrazil: is it possible to get crontab to upload a file to a area on the web, webhotel. ?
[11:18] <bnall> and mediunbuntu package
[11:18] <kevin> ok, you can try to mount manually.
[11:18] <WaxyFresh> can i get some help getting my video card working xvinfo says:X-Video Extension version 2.2
[11:18] <WaxyFresh> screen #0  no adaptors present
[11:18] <bnall> how?
[11:19] <bbrazil> HoocH_LAP_: a crontab can run any program. So if you have a command to do that, yes
[11:19] <TaJMoX> hooch_lap_ the issue isn't of crontab, the issue is if you can find a command that will upload the file.
[11:19] <W3ird_N3rd> bnall: mount --help if I'm not mistaken
[11:19] <kevin> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc  /mnt
[11:19] <HoocH_LAP_> TaJMoX: heh, that hard ?
[11:19] <TaJMoX> hooch_lap_ maybe try wput ?
[11:19] <TaJMoX> !info wput
[11:19] <ubotu> wput: A tiny wget-like ftp-client for uploading files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1build1 (feisty), package size 54 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:20] <HoocH_LAP_> k k, I'll give it a go
[11:20] <bnall> getting this back
[11:20] <bnall> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[11:20] <kevin> dmesg |grep hdc
[11:21] <Kaitlyn2004> I have the GeForce MX420 vid card... how do I get the driver for it?
[11:22] <TaJMoX> commonly asked question
[11:22] <imbecile> Otacon22,  it means the same in english.. european people always assume i dont know what it means especially french
[11:22] <bnall> i ran that but still getting the same error
[11:22] <TaJMoX> bnall what did the dmesg sayt
[11:22] <dyrne> Kaitlyn2004: i dont know f that is a legacy card or not but 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy; sudo nvidia-xconfig'  remove the -legacy if it is a newer card
[11:23] <Kaitlyn2004> dyrne: fairly old... AGP :)
[11:23] <bnall> nothing - it just gave another prompt
[11:23] <Naked_Snake0> hi
[11:23] <TaJMoX> bnall are you sure your cd drive is hdc ?
[11:23] <bnall> what does hdc mean?
[11:24] <TaJMoX> bnall : third IDE device
[11:24] <dineleeeee> hi. i just installed 6.06 LTS and my SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet card doesn't work
[11:24] <bnall> i think it may be hdb - if that means anything to you
[11:24] <dineleeeee> any idea if it's supported in ubuntu?
[11:24] <Kaitlyn2004> dyrne: nvidia-xconfig command not found
[11:24] <TaJMoX> bnall : mount /dev/hdb /mnt
[11:25] <Naked_Snake0> does somebody know how set resolution at 1280x1024 with a radeon 9500 pro ?
[11:25] <TaJMoX> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt
[11:25] <TaJMoX> !resolution | naked_snake0
[11:25] <ubotu> naked_snake0: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:26] <Kaitlyn2004> dyrne: any ideas?
[11:26] <bnall> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt
[11:26] <Naked_Snake0> TaJMoX,  thx u
[11:26] <TaJMoX> kaitlyn2004 sudo nvidia-config
[11:26] <cycom> How can I map buttons on my mighty mouse in ubuntu?
[11:26] <wastro> ok this installation is getting extemely unpleasant
[11:26] <dyrne> TaJMoX: they changed it in ubuntu?
[11:26] <Kaitlyn2004> TaJMoX: not found either
[11:27] <wastro> great, back to the partition screen
[11:27] <TaJMoX> kaitlyn2004 do you have nvidia-glx installed ?
[11:28] <wastro> anyone know how to find out what might be using my root filesystme
[11:28] <towlieban> what do you mean "using" ? is it mounted ?
[11:28] <TaJMoX> cycom : http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+mighty+mouse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[11:29] <wastro> yes
[11:29] <TaJMoX> wastro df -a
[11:29] <TaJMoX> oh you mean why you cant un-mount it ?
[11:29] <TaJMoX> i forgot the command =\
[11:30] <wastro> arg this is just getting bizarre
[11:30] <dyrne> do a lazy umount :)
[11:30] <WaxyFresh> can anyone take a look at this and tell me whats wrong with my video card/whatever? mplayer says my computers too slow to play a movie but its 1.5ghz/256ram i think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26804/
[11:30] <TaJMoX> wastro man dump2efs
[11:30] <bnall> tjmox any ideas? sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt
[11:30] <TaJMoX> dumpe2fs
[11:30] <wastro> now it claims my second partition is 1/10th the actual size
[11:30] <TaJMoX> bnall that didnt work ?
[11:30] <bnall> that's what came back
[11:30] <bnall> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt busy
[11:30] <TaJMoX> bnall type that in a terminal..
[11:30] <TaJMoX> oh
[11:31] <TaJMoX> then you mounted it
[11:31] <TaJMoX> ls /mnt
[11:31] <wastro> ok thanks tajmox
[11:31] <jhasse> Where is the difference between g++ -lmylib main and g++ main -lmylib?
[11:31] <bnall> that doesn't come back with anyting
[11:31] <bnall> can i send you a screen shot?
[11:32] <TaJMoX> bnall type mount
[11:32] <wastro> arg
[11:32] <TaJMoX> bnall and see where it is mounted
[11:32] <wastro> I mounted my partition as root from the install disk, because it was complaining
[11:32] <TaJMoX> bnall you can copy paste text in a private message to me
[11:32] <wastro> rather, I mounted the hard drive I wanted to install on as root
[11:32] <KrakensDen> I have an interesting problem
[11:33] <TaJMoX> =\
[11:33] <KrakensDen> some applications, including vim and gnome-terminal/xterm start up really slowly
[11:33] <KrakensDen> this started recently, and I've been trying to figure out why
[11:33] <KrakensDen> so I ran strace on xterm and vim
[11:33] <KrakensDen> and they both stall at the same point
[11:34] <KrakensDen> but I can't interpret the output
[11:34] <KrakensDen> does anyone have any ideas?
[11:34] <wastro> arg lsof command line is cryptic
[11:34] <crabgrass> where are emblems stored?
[11:34] <GenNMX> In Ubuntu Server, how do I send mail from the command line?
[11:35] <crabgrass> i cant seem to find anything in /usr/share
[11:35] <GenNMX> In Ubuntu Server, how do I generate & send mail from the command line, for automatic notifications?
[11:35] <TaJMoX> genmx sendmail
[11:35] <TaJMoX> genmx or 'mail'
[11:35] <KrakensDen> GenMX, are you trying to do this from a web application?
[11:36] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: No, I have a cron script which watches a SVN, and I want to be able to email out when commits are done.
[11:36] <HariYukai> Alright...
[11:36] <KrakensDen> GenMX, ok. Question two: are you set up with a mailer daemon, or do you want to use smtp?
[11:37] <HariYukai> I entered some stuff into "Main interfaces" (IP Adddress, Subnet Mask and Default Gateway", but Ubuntu still isn't connecting to the internet.
[11:37] <HariYukai> Is there some stuff I still need to set up?
[11:37] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: I'll just use gmail for right now -- don't want to secure mailing on this box yet
[11:37] <KrakensDen> GenMX, mailer daemon means sendmail, exim, postfix, qmail, etc. They are a pain, but nice
[11:37] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, ok
[11:37] <|Porsche> are you going wireless or ethernet?
[11:37] <lebies> hi all, in feisty, can ping win_xp but can't ping 2nd feisty pc on 4 system home-net (2 feisty, 1 win_xp & adsl router/switch). googled to death but no resolve - any ideas please?
[11:38] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: Right, I man'd exim (which is what ubuntu server put on it), but I can't figure out how to send mail from the command line.
[11:38] <HariYukai> |Porsche, wireless.
[11:38] <KrakensDen> GenMX, once it is set up, the standard unix mail commands
[11:38] <|Porsche> HariYukai: Encrypted or Open?
[11:38] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: Hmmm it's installed, but "mail" is not valid.
[11:38] <HariYukai> Um, I'm not sure...
[11:39] <HariYukai> Probably Encrypted.
[11:39] <KrakensDen> GenMX, which would be 'mail -s "title" email@some.com < emailmessage.file
[11:39] <|Porsche> whos network are you trying to connect?
[11:39] <HariYukai> My Dad's.
[11:39] <KrakensDen> GenMX, ? Are you serious?
[11:39] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: exim4 is installed, but "mail" is not valid, even under root.
[11:40] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, there is no /usr/bin/mail?
[11:40] <|Porsche> do you see the wireless bars to the left of the volume icon?
[11:40] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: Nope.
[11:40] <uptownben> Hi All. I'm still trying to get UBUNTU intalled on a compact flash card, teh notebook I am installing with has 256MB RAM :( so when I try to boot the CD and clickthe INSTALL icon it just keeps thrashing away, but never really gets to completely display the install window (it may eventually)..is there a way to bot into the console via the CD and run the install that way?
[11:40] <HariYukai> Wireless bars?
[11:40] <scorp123> uptownben: try the "Alternate Install CD"
[11:41] <euxneks> uptownben: maybe the alternate install cd
[11:41] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, weird... it's in 'mailx
[11:41] <HariYukai> You mean the little computer with those waves coming out of it?
[11:41] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, if you want it...
[11:41] <euxneks> scorp123: also try xubuntu
[11:41] <euxneks> ahk
[11:41] <sleepless> i'm trying to find the UUID for a usb external hdd i have on my pc, so i can add it to /etc/fstab  I ran ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh  but /dev/sdb1 does not show up, anyone have any ideas or something to point me in the right direction.
[11:41] <scorp123> euxneks: me ???
[11:41] <euxneks> I mean uptownben
[11:41] <euxneks> uptownben: try xubuntu
[11:41] <euxneks> hah sorry scorp123
[11:41] <uptownben> if I go with XUBUNTU I should still be able to update it to get ALL the regular UBUNTU features , correct?
[11:42] <|Porsche> yeah something that resembles this: http://www.nyu.edu/its/pda/images/icon-signal.jpg
[11:42] <scorp123> uptownben: Also: There is a new distro based on Kubuntu + MEPIS: "antiX" ... it's still some sort of Ubuntu, but more appropriate for older systems.
[11:42] <zeropiel> anyone know of issues with nvidia legacy drivers for gforce4 ?
[11:42] <HariYukai> |Porsche, I only see a computer with waves coming out of it...o.o Is that the same thing?
[11:42] <zeropiel> on feisty that is
[11:42] <euxneks> uptownben: to which ubuntu features are you referring?
[11:42] <|Porsche> yeah
[11:42] <|Porsche> do you see an icon like that?
[11:43] <Pici> uptownben: Yes, xubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories, just different default software.
[11:43] <OConnor> bye
[11:43] <HariYukai> Yup.
[11:43] <uptownben> OK.. kool
[11:43] <Kprofthreat> The difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is they use different interfaces. That's pretty much it.
[11:43] <Tony_> I downloaded a theme and put the folder in my themes folder and it still doesn't show up under User Interface Settings.
[11:43] <uptownben> I'm booting xubuntu now.
[11:43] <GenNMX> KrakensDen: That did it. Thanks.
[11:43] <Kprofthreat> Ok
[11:44] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, luck with exim
[11:44] <Kprofthreat> Congrats.
[11:44] <|Porsche> ok click on it and a list of wireless networks should pop up, look for your fathers one and let me know if there is something like a lock next to it
[11:44] <KrakensDen> GenNMX, mailer daemons frighten me :-P
[11:44] <Kprofthreat> And to THINK I was gonna try PCLinux
[11:44] <HariYukai> Wait wait wait...
[11:45] <HariYukai> The thing with the bars or the computer with waves?
[11:45] <HariYukai> Because I only see an icon of the computer with waves...
[11:45] <|Porsche> ru in linux/
[11:45] <|Porsche> the thing with the bars
[11:45] <Alonea> ok, I installed google earth, but it just stays at the initializing phase. anyone else have it and successfully get it to work?
[11:45] <HariYukai> Oh yea, I don't see that...
[11:45] <|Porsche> you dont see the bars?
[11:46] <|Porsche> do you see like 2 computer monitors?
[11:46] <zubeen> there is some prob with my dns server...i have to type the ips to see the websites..how do i go about it?
[11:46] <HariYukai> I see two icons that are computer monitors.
[11:46] <bbrazil> zubeen: how are you connected to the internet?
[11:47] <|Porsche> do you have a cable going straigt into the router?
[11:47] <HariYukai> One icon is for Netgear and the other one is the computer with waves.
[11:47] <zubeen> bbrazil: via broadband
[11:47] <zubeen> bbrazil: i have a wireless router
[11:47] <bbrazil> zubeen: dsl router doing NAT?
[11:47] <zubeen> bbrazil: yes
[11:47] <|Porsche> hmm a computer with waves? can you do a screen capture and send it to me?
[11:47] <bbrazil> zubeen: please pastebin /etc/resolv.conf
[11:47] <Brade1> hi
[11:47] <Brade1> i cant boot of a live cd in to ubuntu
[11:48] <cyril_> anyone user vpn with network manager ?
[11:48] <HariYukai> Sure.
[11:48] <cyril_> *use
[11:48] <Tony_> So anyone know why the theme isn't showing up, I put it in the themes folder.
[11:49] <zubeen> bbrazil: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:49] <zubeen> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:49] <zubeen> sorry for pasting it directly
[11:49] <HariYukai> This: http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6641/compywavesy8.png
[11:49] <zubeen> bbrazil: this is the ip address of my router
[11:49] <bnall> anyone know the command to un-mount a drive?
[11:50] <|Porsche> you are in windows ?
[11:50] <bnall> ubuntu
[11:50] <HariYukai> Yeah.
[11:50] <|Porsche> oh dude my bad
[11:50] <bastid_raZor> bnall isn't it umount?
[11:50] <HariYukai> Nah, it's alright; I should've said so in the first place.
[11:51] <uptownben> xubuntu boots up quick and I've started the install..
[11:51] <bnall> tried unmount but not working
[11:51] <bastid_raZor> umount
[11:51] <bastid_raZor> no n
[11:51] <|Porsche> ok yeah just double click that icon then do a refresh for wireless networks look for your dads network at the bottom of each network it would say open or WEP encrption or WPA Encryption.... if its encrypted ask your dad for the pasword then just click it and hit the connect botton on the lower right corner a password thing will pop up put in the password and voila
[11:52] <|Porsche> also you must check with your dad to see if he has mac filtering on and all that other good stuff in the router
[11:52] <bnall> thanks
[11:53] <HariYukai> Refresh?
[11:53] <|Porsche> yea do you see it
[11:54] <bnall> if i click on cd/dvd rom drive from computer it should open the cd right?
[11:54] <HariYukai> I don't see anything that saus "Refresh"...
[11:54] <zubeen> bbrazil:
[11:54] <|Porsche> how about scan for wireless networks or something like that?
[11:54] <Cycne> you tell me ;)
[11:54] <|Porsche> or view available wireless networks
[11:54] <HariYukai> Oh great, I've gotta go....
[11:54] <crabgrass> anyone know how to add custom emblems?
[11:55] <HariYukai> Grandma wants to drag me out somewhere...-_-
[11:55] <zubeen> bbrazil:
[11:55] <HariYukai> I'll be back.
[11:55] <|Porsche> k
[11:55] <jrib> crabgrass: edit -> backgrounds and emblems
[11:56] <Ubuntoo> why are the folders locked after i cpy them, and i cannot delete them?
[11:56] <Ubuntoo> this is my 3rd day in linux..
[11:56] <crabgrass> jrib: do i have to be using gnome to do this?
[11:56] <bnall> bastid i am sending you a screen shot
[11:56] <|Porsche> do you have write access to the folders?
[11:56] <jrib> crabgrass: yes, I thought you were referring to the emblems in nautilus
[11:56] <|Porsche> or are the folders read only?
[11:57] <crabgrass> jrib: i am, but they also work in thunar
[11:57] <jrib> crabgrass: don't know about thunar
[11:57] <crabgrass> jrib: alright.
[11:57] <crabgrass> jrib: thanks anyway
[11:57] <Ubuntoo> |Porsche,  with right-click menu i can modify the permissions, but i have to do that any time if I want to edit a folder ...
[11:58] <axiom> anybody knows how to manually define a physical RAM map that overrides the one provided by BIOS?
[11:58] <Pici> How would I get the changelog for an apt update from the command line?
[11:58] <|Porsche> which folders are you trying to get into? Are you logged in as root?
[11:58] <zubeen> bbrazil:
[11:58] <crabgrass> axiom:  i have no idea, but why do you need/want to do that?
[11:58] <mattwj2005> I got Beryl installed in Ubuntu
[11:58] <mattwj2005> 2 words
[11:59] <mattwj2005> holly crap!
[11:59] <axiom> crabgrass: make use of address space that isn't addressed
[11:59] <bobsomebody> can someone tell me how to get flash installed on Konqueror through Gnome?
[11:59] <Ubuntoo> |Porsche,  folders in my /home directory, and i think i'm logged with root, since every time the welcome screen asks for password ...
[11:59] <bnall> bastid are you around?
[11:59] <axiom> crabgrass: there are some kernels (often mandrake kernels) that when you boot, there followed a user-defined RAM map, I wonder how it's done
[11:59] <|Porsche> open a terminal and type "id" then show me the results
[12:00] <Ubuntoo> uid=1000(k7) gid=1000(k7) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(k7)
[12:00] <mattwj2005> has anyone heard of automatix2 before?
[12:00] <bobsomebody> mattwj2005, no, whats it for?
[12:01] <LCCUB> mattwj2005:  I have it
[12:01] <bnall> can anyone help with cd drive errors?