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mikeconceptsxumbuntu 7.04 no sound audigy12:39
mikeconcepts#0: Audigy 1 [SB0090] 12:39
mikeconceptsadded mixer control to panel, set device to audigy12:40
mikeconceptsis some change to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base needed normally?12:41
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TheSheepno12:45
TheSheepI don't think so12:45
mikeconceptsoptions snd-hda-intel model=auto12:47
mikeconceptstrying this12:47
mikeconceptsafter reboot12:48
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mikeconceptsstill no sound12:57
mikeconceptsanybody care to help with this issue of no sound in xubuntu 7.04 using an audigy sound card?12:58
TheSheepmikeconcepts: I assume you already checked the forums?12:59
mikeconceptsyes12:59
mikeconceptsmade changes talked about there to alsa-base01:00
TheSheepmikeconcepts: 'lsmod | grep snd' shows anything?01:00
mikeconceptsneither recommended fix helped01:00
mikeconceptsyes, full page of info01:00
TheSheepmikeconcepts: that'd mean the driver is loaded01:01
mikeconceptsyes, it even shows option for the audigy01:01
TheSheepmikeconcepts: run 'alsamixer' and make sure the channels are not muted01:01
mikeconceptsthere is nothing showing for mute on any channel01:02
mikeconceptsfound the trouble01:03
mikeconceptswas set to digital01:03
mikeconceptsat least you got me looking inthe right place01:03
TheSheepglad you solved it :)01:03
mikeconceptsthanks for helping01:04
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AsauceHowcome Ubuntu recognizes my wireless card, but Xubuntu doesn't? In Xubuntu, there aren't even any icons in the top-right indicating networking or volume control. Just an outline of a rectangle...01:58
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AsauceIs there anything extra I have to do?01:59
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somerville32Asauce: I'm sure it recognizes your wireless card.01:59
mikeconceptscan krdc be installed in xubuntu 7.04 for remote desktop connection?01:59
AsauceThen how do I set it up?02:00
somerville32Asauce: Download wifi-radar02:00
hyper__chhiho02:00
mikeconceptseven though it is for KDE?02:00
AsauceThank you.02:00
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TaJMoXHow do I change panel background to an image?02:02
neozenTaJMoX: you use a theme02:03
neozenTaJMoX: or you edit an existing theme by hand02:03
neozenTaJMoX: I know of no other way02:04
TaJMoXneozen : the theme i'm using (xfce-4.2) doesn't contain the word 'panel' in the rc02:04
TaJMoXcan i just add style "panel" { bg_pixmap[NORMAL]  = "filename.png" }  ??02:05
TaJMoXi mean, can you provide me with an example?02:06
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TaJMoXcan someone give me an example on how to change the panel background by editing a gtk theme?02:18
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saint-takeshihaving a spot of bother installing xubuntu. it reports an error formatting my hard drive, which might be caused by the fact that it has an encrypted LVM setup at the moment used by my old OS02:49
saint-takeshi"The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) failed"02:50
saint-takeshii-002:52
saint-takeshiis there any way to tell what the problem is?02:52
saint-takeshi"The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) failed."02:53
neozenTaJMoX: nope... never done it before .... sorry02:53
neozenTaJMoX: never needed to... I just looked here: http://xfce-look.org and found a theme I liked, installed it, and called it done02:54
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TaJMoXok well can you reccomend a theme which has an image in the panel, so that I can use it as an example?02:56
radioaktivstormhello, does anyone know how to reset the session02:57
radioaktivstormi have too many instances of nm-applet running02:57
radioaktivstorm(i had save session on logoff enabled)02:58
TaJMoXsaint-takeshi - run sudo gparted in a terminal02:58
radioaktivstormT_T02:58
saint-takeshigparted looks like it's got the partitions set up, but the install program just won't get past the partition thing, it fails with "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) failed" and mounts a 217mb partition on /media/disk with what seems to be linux boot things in it, i cant tell if thats my old /boot or som,ething the installer has created :S03:03
kali|csaint-takeshi, Did you try a second time, ideally reformatting the root partition? That might already help.03:04
saint-takeshioh, wait, just read the menu.list in the grub folder, and it's my old one...03:04
saint-takeshiGparted seems to be unaware of any LVM activity and i've now deleted all partitions03:07
saint-takeshiand it looks like they're staying deleted this time03:08
saint-takeshidammit! every time i run the installer, it brings back the old partitions and mounts the root partition :/03:10
kali|csaint-takeshi, Try a restart, that might help if the paritions table is not updated.03:11
kali|cs/restart/reboot03:11
saint-takeshiah, wait....setting up the partitions manually looks like it's helped....its doing sopmething new03:12
saint-takeshi"The test of the file system with type ext3 in partition #1 of IDE1 slave (hdb) found uncorrected errors."03:12
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saint-takeshinow i've just got a tiny window entitled "installing system"03:15
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radioaktivstormhow does onne reset the settings for xfce?03:16
saint-takeshithe activity light on the CD drive is going berzerk, so i think its doing *something*03:16
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saint-takeshioh, the tiny window is a progress bar...fascinating...03:20
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saint-takeshiwait, maybe not, it's gone blank again...half of the little grey square went white for a bit...03:21
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saint-takeshiexcellent. now i'm installed and ready to go...just one thing, though...what's the root password?04:03
j1mcthere is no root password, saint-takeshi.04:03
j1mcxubuntu uses "sudo" for administrative access.04:03
saint-takeshiit didn't ask me to set one, but it keeps asking me for one04:03
j1mcuse your regular user password.04:04
saint-takeshioh, i see04:04
j1mcinstead of "su"04:04
j1mcuse "sudo"04:04
saint-takeshii know that04:04
j1mcok.  :)  i wasn't sure.04:04
saint-takeshioh, i see, there just isn't a root password....doesn't that make it much easier to break into an ubuntu system?04:05
somerville32No04:07
somerville32There is a root password04:07
somerville32It is just garbage04:07
somerville32ie. it is disabled04:07
saint-takeshihmmm...also, for some reason, "glxinfo|grep direct" kills X and restarts it04:07
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saint-takeshiyeah, every time i try to run glxinfo, it kills x04:11
saint-takeshioh, no, i was still using Vesa for some reason04:11
somerville32Ok04:12
somerville32I need food, lol04:12
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j1mcsaint-takeshi: what happens when you open xfce4-terminal?04:12
j1mcdoes that open ok?04:12
AsauceAlright, I tried that WiFi-Radar thing... I'm a bit confused as to how I'm supposed to use it. Is it supposed to detect my network right when I start it? Does it even recognize my wireless card?04:13
saint-takeshias in Applications>accessories>Terminal? yeah, runs fine04:13
j1mcsaint-takeshi: yeah, that's what i was referring to.04:13
j1mcsaint-takeshi: is there anything in /var/crash?04:14
somerville32Asauce: Can you pastebin the output of the following command: sudo lshw -class net04:15
saint-takeshij1mc; i'm not actually having a problem anymore, i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and changed from vesa to ati for my display driver, and it's running gorgeously.04:16
=== somerville32 cheers.
somerville32You should file a bug (or see if one already is).04:17
j1mcsomerville32: should saint-takeshi file a bug if he just had selected the wrong graphics driver?04:19
j1mcif the wrong graphics driver is causing the problem, i don't see why that's bugworthy...04:19
j1mcif the problem were under the correct driver then it would make sense to check for a bug report.04:20
somerville32It shouldn't crash04:22
somerville32Vesa is a driver that should support all cards04:22
j1mcah, ok.04:22
somerville32Video Electronics Standards Association: Video Electronics Standards Association.04:23
somerville32Err..04:23
somerville32VESA: Video Electronics Standards Association.04:23
somerville32!pastebin > Asauce04:23
somerville32!wifi04:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:26
somerville32Asauce: See above documentation04:26
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somerville32Asauce: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig ra0?04:27
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TaJMoXCan anyone tell me what to add in the theme file to have an image as the panel background?04:37
somerville32I dunno if you can04:37
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Ghostvirushello everyone04:49
Ghostvirusquick question: why does "printscreen" not work with Xubuntu?04:50
somerville32You can make it work04:53
somerville32Just assign the key to launch the screencapture utility04:53
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Ghostvirusahh, and how would i go about that? in the "keyboard preferences" dialog?04:54
somerville32:)04:56
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cheeseboyhow i play video that uses divx ?05:00
somerville32!divx05:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:01
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cheeseboywhy is it everytime i install someting it asks for xubuntu cd05:04
somerville32cheeseboy: Remove the cd from the sources list05:05
cheeseboyhow?05:05
somerville32Applications > System > Software Sources05:05
scrooge_74the cd is your primary repository05:05
scrooge_74at this moment05:05
cheeseboywhere i uncheck it?05:06
scrooge_74there should be an entry for cdrom05:07
scrooge_74if not go to /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD05:08
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felicianohey guys... I'm having troubles with a application... and the only error send me is this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26161/05:14
Ghostvirushm, it seems adding a screenshot shortcut to PrintScreen is a bit of work :/05:14
felicianoplease let me know how can I get more information05:14
felicianoabout the fault05:15
felicianoI dont know whats the problem05:15
felicianoI solve my problem...05:17
Ghostvirus/usr/bin/esd not found?05:17
felicianosorry05:17
feliciano;)05:17
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Ghostvirusgood times05:18
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somerville32:)05:19
kioskanyone know how to run python games05:19
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felicianokiosk.. like what??05:20
somerville32kiosk: The same way you run every other python application :)05:20
kiosk20K Light Years won't run :(05:20
kiosktype ./LightYears.py05:21
kioskit says:   bash: ./LightYears.py: /usr/bin/python2.4: bad interpreter: No such file or directory05:22
crimsundpkg -l python2.4|grep ^ii;echo $?05:23
crimsunthat's a bad shebang anyhow05:24
crimsunit should use /usr/bin/python, not /usr/bin/python2.405:24
kioskwhat was the first thing crimsun?05:24
kioskIshould enter that?05:25
crimsunthat's a command05:25
kioskNo packages found matching python2.4.05:27
kiosk105:27
crimsunright.05:28
kioskIs python broke?05:28
crimsunno05:29
crimsunsee what I typed above05:29
kioskyes05:29
crimsuneither change the shebang, or install python2.405:29
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kioskis dpkg the same thing as apt-get ?05:29
crimsunno.05:30
crimsunapt-get uses dpkg.05:30
kioskI think I figured out I have Python2.5 installed.  That won't work?05:31
kioskii  python2.5      2.5.1-0ubuntu1 An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5)05:31
kioskwhen typing dpkg -l python2.5|grep ^ii;echo $?05:32
crimsunlook at the error that running the program gives you05:32
kioskI am going to have to disect that command now.  That is a whopper05:32
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crimsunit explicitly mentions python2.405:32
crimsunwe've established that you don't have python2.4 installed05:32
crimsunso -05:32
crimsuneither install python2.4, or change the shebang.05:32
kioskcan you install python2.5 without installing the other one?05:34
kiosk*un installing the other one05:34
crimsunyou already have python2.5 installed05:34
crimsundid you mean to ask if you can install python2.4 in parallel?05:35
crimsunif so, yes.  You can.05:35
kioskyes that's what I meant05:35
kioskcool05:35
somerville32:)05:35
kioskinstalling05:36
kiosknow what did you mean by shebang?05:37
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kioskshebang = the whole python script right?05:42
crimsunno05:43
crimsunthe shebang is the top line05:43
crimsun#!/usr/bin/python2.4  <--05:43
crimsunwhich is poor syntax anyhow05:43
crimsun#! /usr/bin/python    would be correct05:43
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somerville32Hi kalikiana_05:43
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AsauceHow do I log in as root?06:05
kalikiana_hey somerville32 :)06:05
kalikiana_Asauce, Why would you want/ need that?06:05
kalikiana_It's normally disabled.06:05
kioskhey thanks for the help crimsun06:10
kioskI think I'm on the right track now06:10
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TaJMoXAnyone know how to use an image as the panel background?06:14
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somerville32:)06:16
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IndephysisHelp! I just installed, and after switching between the first terminal (alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f1, don't remember) and the X session I seem to be zoomed in!07:25
predaeus_Indephysis, try if you can switch resolutions with ctrl-alt-numpad-/+07:26
IndephysisOh thank you so much.07:26
IndephysisThere we go. :D07:27
predaeus_it should switch through available resolutions in your xorg.conf07:27
predaeus_but weird behavior nonetheless07:27
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rukscan anyone help me with a problem with azureus,i tried that channel but nobody is responding07:52
predaeus_what problem?07:53
ruksok i installed azureus yesterday and used it fine07:55
rukstoday as soon as i open it it closes07:55
ruksso i open in terminal07:55
ruksand get an error message when it closes07:55
ruksreferring to java it looks like07:55
ruksbut i have 1.6 jre installed07:55
ruksany ideas?07:56
ruksi can show u the error message,its kinda long07:56
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test3r!pci=routeirq07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pci=routeirq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
rukseh?07:58
test3rha.   well, i think that might b how i get this older-than-dirt  3COM wifi card going.07:58
test3ranyone ever pass that option to kernel yet?07:58
test3rdo we still NEED to? anyone know?07:58
test3rsee -07:59
predaeus_ruks, paste the error to a pastebin and the link here07:59
test3rdmesg tells m that my PCI 3:00.0  is being ghosted by my 2:00:00  or something07:59
test3rmaybe it will set it str8 i guess ill give it a shot08:00
rukswhats a pastebin?08:00
predaeus_!paste08:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:01
test3ryeah we dont even have to use a 3rd party site anymore for our pastes08:03
rukshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26705/08:03
test3rwoot!08:03
ruksi think i did it right?08:03
rukscan u see ut?08:05
ruksit*08:05
predaeus_ruks, hm it says "operation not permitted". Did you try running azureus with sudo just to see if it works? You should not run azureus with sudo rights else.08:05
test3r=D08:05
test3reither that or set the config to 77708:05
test3ror somethign similar that WILL work08:05
ruksok i used sudo and it opened with the config wizard08:06
ruksthats odd08:06
ruksbut its up08:06
ruksam i going to have to do this everytime?08:06
test3rhey now dmesg reports it is routing all IRQ for all PCI device - the card still lights on but im not connecting to my wifi  =(08:07
predaeus_ruks, you should not run azureus with sudo rights. Try to figure out what is wrong then run it without sudo rights.08:07
test3rwow i typed that to air.08:07
test3rruks > either use sudo or CHMOD08:07
predaeus_ruks, did you install azureus from the repositories?08:07
ruksok its up,but my torrents are gone....and the error said something about java but i have the latest version08:08
ruksi used synaptics08:08
predaeus_hm weird08:08
ruksyea08:08
ruksshould i uninstall and reinstall?08:08
test3rwait u shouldt have to use torrent as root08:08
test3rdo Not use torrent as root08:08
test3ri also hope you have PG setup properly and is in CRON08:09
test3r..08:09
predaeus_PG?08:09
test3rpeer guardian08:09
test3rhave it fully up and getting Auto-Updates b4 u use torrent.08:09
test3r(you enable the automatic part using CRON)08:10
ruksi dont know what that is,im kinda new to linux and all this08:10
test3rit is not a linux thing peer guardian is what it is08:10
test3rhowever to set it up on linux u will have to teach yourself a little linux08:10
test3rnaturally08:10
ruksi know some08:11
test3rthen ur part way there! You can do it.08:11
ruksok i will try08:11
ruksthanks for the help08:11
test3rnp  =)  stay safe with that tool, now.08:11
rukslol08:11
test3rjust google "peer guardian"  youll see08:12
predaeus_ruks, still this will not fix your java or whatever problem08:12
test3rno is no fix for JAVA but do not run torrent as root08:12
test3rthat is insane08:12
test3rthe one that comes with Xubuntu worked Fine for torrents for me08:13
test3rand does no req a root password everytime it launches08:13
test3rwhich means it is properly configd08:13
ruksazureus didnt either until today08:13
ruksand i didnt do anything to the system to change anything08:13
ruksso maybe i should uninstall azureus and just use bittornado as default08:14
test3rim not sure but when i think of peer-2-peer torrent thing having priv to write Anything to disk it makes me edgy08:14
test3ris it possible to force a torrent on a client siting running in root mode?08:15
test3rlike - i could force a torrent to u that , you running as root, could overwrite sys files08:15
test3ror worse08:16
test3ris the same reason you Read an SH before launching the thing08:16
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test3rYeah bitornado ran fine & saved files for me and I used a standard "User" acc with intentionaly no admin priv08:18
test3ri just had it save the things to desktop. then id burn em off08:19
test3rinside a folder on the desk - i should say08:19
kumamotohas anyone's firefox been crashing lately or it is just me08:23
test3rok im booting kernel with pci=routeirq pci=assign-busses08:45
test3rive tried excluding the IRQ 11 my card gets re-routed to, too, inside /etc/pcmcia/config.opts08:46
test3rthing still turns on.  /dmsg says it is associating with an access point successfuly - i dont get it why doesnt it have net08:46
test3ractually i havent scrolled up after using assign-busses lets see what it says up there now in dmsg08:48
test3rit says nothing up there besides that it is doing manual config for my pci08:50
test3rno error rly08:51
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test3rHEY I see something. when i invoke "init.d networking restart" it says "ignoring unknown interface ath0:ath0" which was my OLD wifi interface. this card uses wlan0, though. What file could i still need to change?09:14
test3rI have a sneeking suspicion the card will work on a complete fresh install of Xubuntu from CD09:14
test3r=(09:14
test3ralso it says "set failed on wmaster0 opp not supported" wehich i already knew & found out09:18
test3rall the files ive changed though iv3 set to wlan009:18
test3rso somewhere there is still a thing i need to change   =(09:19
test3roh WEIRD when i run lshw though now, after using the boot kernel options, my address changed to the card09:21
test3rOK. lets switch one of those files. i know where that ady sits.09:21
test3rer wait it is the bus info, not the IRQ that changed. hmmmmm. & i dont seem to find a spot where i used the bus info either09:25
test3rdumb 3COM card. im think i should switch back to my Atheros using madwifi09:39
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test31lol09:58
test31typing on notebook now09:59
test31all it took was swaping out the card, then telling it not to use my dumb neighbors weak linksys router as its network09:59
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test3rnow im other box09:59
test31wait a sec - think about the last bit - i had to tell it NOT to connect to my neighbors network using my originally installed wifi card (the one i used when i installed xubuntu) , but when i use a dif wifi card, i dont even have to swat it away from "OOB" configs , nor will it connect to my Own network10:13
test31even though the card lights up, the driver was included in kernel already10:15
test31do i have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?10:16
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b52laptophello11:12
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zubuntooHi ! anyone had a problems with 7.04 xubuntu isos ?12:37
zubuntooI downloaded & burned the isos multiple times, but it still wont boot up work ? anyone else had issues ?12:38
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Pumpernickel1)  Did you verify the integrity of the cd at any point?  2)  Could you be a bit more precise about that "won't boot up" statement?01:02
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keneidahello, can somebody tell me how many MB of ram is used just after logging to xfce?02:00
keneidai mean at your computers02:00
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TheSheepkeneida: about 70, but it depends on how much ram you have in total, I have 512MB02:10
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keneidaon my desktop it uses 120, on laptop 220. I do not know why it is like this02:37
totalwormagethere could be services running on your desktop that your lappie doesn't have02:38
totalwormageor am i wrong02:38
keneidain top i do not see any big processes02:39
kromohi, I'd like to fix the spanish translation of xfce-mcs-plugins, should this be done on launchpad?02:42
keneidacan somebody suggest me some other program for testing the memory usage02:43
TheSheepkromo: yes02:44
TheSheepkeneida: xrestop comes in handy for X apps02:44
keneidaand for not X02:45
kromoTheSheep: thanks02:45
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TheSheepkeneida: there was that funny tracing tool requiring additional kernel module for extra accuracy...02:47
TheSheepkeneida: atop02:48
TheSheepI think02:48
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cheeseboyhow i substitute one key for another?02:54
case__switch the key with a spoon? :)02:54
cheeseboyi need to set them to be different02:55
cheeseboybecause one broke02:55
cheeseboyand i need it02:56
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chris_lees_3rdalWhen I start up Xubuntu 7.04 on my PowerPC, the panels don't automatically start02:56
chris_lees_3rdalStarting them manually works02:56
chris_lees_3rdalAnyone else run into the problem on the Live CD?02:56
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archangelpetroreally terrible question here, but.... when coding with GTK the include is <gtk/gtk.h> however my gtk headers are stored in /usr/include/gtk-2.0/  so, how would i allow the same include to work? (what's the best way?)03:35
archangelpetroor at least point me in the right direction03:37
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swhalenHello, how do i add a USB printer in xubuntu03:38
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asmith42aswhalen: Setting > Printers doesn't work?03:44
kalikiana_archangelpetro, GTK+ is always in gtk-2.0/gtk, so that's okay ;)03:44
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case__archangelpetro, if you look closely, inside the /usr/include/gtk-2.0/ there is a gtk/ directory, so your gtk/gtk.h will always works since it's pkg-config job to include the right folder (i.e. /usr/include/gtk-2.0 )03:47
asmith42aI thought Update Manager was supposed to automatically install Important Security Updates, or at least alert me. Am I misunderstanding?03:48
kalikiana_asmith42a, You can configure it in synaptic.03:48
kalikiana_It won't auto-download by default.03:48
asmith42akalikiana_: I thought so too. It is set to "Smart Upgrade".03:49
asmith42aWhich should it be?03:50
kalikiana_asmith42a, Hm... I'm not sure what 'Smart Upgrade' is. You can just tell it to download and install automatically, can't you?03:50
case__the update manager is for gnome isn't it? i don't know if there is a xubuntu version...03:51
swhalenasmith42a: No, it asks for the port and USB isn't listed03:51
asmith42akalikiana_: I thought I had it set like that at one time, then the update to automatically perform updates came down...03:51
asmith42aswhalen: Strange. I wish I could help you. All my printers are networked.03:52
asmith42acase__: Oh, that could be, but still, wouldn't the package manager to it?03:52
asmith42aer, do it03:52
case__it will update and upgrade if you ask explicitly so, it won't warn you about new updates available. i think.03:53
kalikiana_case__, Update manager is not gnome only. But the visual notifier still is.03:53
asmith42aI'm in Synaptic Package Manager preferences and I don't see it, other than System Upgrade: Ask, Default, or Smart, whatever that is.03:53
swhalenasmith42a: same  heree, tthis comp is a friends. I installed xubuntu beacuse it was old. All my printers are Samba03:53
case__kalikiana_, yes right, i was talking about the gnome applet that warns you.03:53
asmith42aOh, OK. Well, I can do without the notifier if it install automatically.03:54
asmith42aOr at least attempts to.03:54
asmith42aswhalen: And the USB port and printer worked before xubuntu?03:54
case__you can always put a "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" in a crontab somewhere :)03:54
asmith42aYes, I suppose.03:55
asmith42aswhalen: A lone USB port is not listed on mine too. I don't have any printers plugged into the machine, though some network printers are shown automatically. Do you have the printer plugged in?03:56
swhalenasmith42a: they had windows, yes. I wonder if gnome-cups-add would find it03:58
asmith42aWorth a try, huh?03:58
case__what does "lsusb" say ?04:00
swhalenasmith42a: i dont have the comp with me. i tried to help them over the phone04:00
swhaleni should have thought of lsusb04:00
swhalend'oh04:00
case__lsusb saves lives :)04:00
swhalenlol04:01
asmith42aThat's one's new for me. Sorry, I didn't think of that.04:01
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asmith42aer, That04:01
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archangelpetrocase__, well when i ls /usr/include   i only have the folders gtk-1.2 and gtk-2.0   no /usr/include/gtk/04:45
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archangelpetrothat point extends to any of you, if anyone could suggest a way to resolve it?04:50
SwarthmoreDBwhich point? i did not get it when i got here04:50
Jester45well when i ls /usr/include   i only have the folders gtk-1.2 and gtk-2.0   no /usr/include/gtk/04:55
Jester45thats the point04:55
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laserbeak43howdy how04:55
laserbeak43whats a good mpg video player? i've tried xmovie and gxine but none of them play them04:56
SwarthmoreDBfor best MPEG player use, use VLC04:56
SwarthmoreDBin my opinion I think it is the best one... im sure someone else can give you another program04:57
laserbeak43man this sux04:57
laserbeak43:P04:57
Jester45laserbeak43, mplayer04:58
Jester45i like mplayer-nogui04:58
laserbeak43alright i'll try those04:58
Jester45becuase its simpler and keeps my menu smaller04:58
laserbeak43Jester45: yeah you would04:58
laserbeak43lol04:58
SwarthmoreDByea try that... give us feedback if they work out for you04:58
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Jester45gota problem with that?04:59
Jester45its simple and you dont have to load much up04:59
laserbeak43Jester45: just teasing05:00
laserbeak43:)05:00
laserbeak43errors with mplayer too05:01
Jester45did you do the gui or nogui05:01
laserbeak43gui, the video prefferences are set to matrox(???) idont have a matrox05:02
laserbeak43ahh there we go!!05:03
laserbeak43thanks!!!05:03
laserbeak43how do you get mplayer to loop?05:03
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Jester45ummm05:04
Jester45idk05:04
Jester45look at    man mplayer05:04
Jester45its has LOTS of stuff05:04
archangelpetroJester45, the point? so.. i have to change every #include to <gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h>?05:07
Jester45idk05:08
gabkdllylaserbeak43: while true ; do mplayer file.mpg ; done ;)05:08
archangelpetrook.05:08
crimsunarchangelpetro: no05:09
archangelpetrothen how do i resolve it?05:09
crimsunpkg-config --cflags gtk*  (not precise) should do that.05:09
laserbeak43gabkdlly: where on earth would i write that? terminal? ahhh cool i could even make a launcher with a command like that couldnt i?05:10
crimsune.g., see `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0`05:10
crimsunthe relevant pkg-config sub for GTK+ 2 would be gtk+-2.005:11
archangelpetrok05:11
Jester45i wish i knew all that you know crimsun05:11
gabkdllylaserbeak43: careful launching that script anywhere other than a terminal, as you will have to kill it with CTRL-C or the like05:11
Jester45i would be.... really smart05:11
laserbeak43gabkdlly: ok thanks05:11
SwarthmoreDBgood job crimsun i was just gonna say the same thing... oh well05:12
archangelpetrothanks crimsun05:14
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laserbeak43would i need to install KDE to use KDevelop?05:16
laserbeak43yep05:17
laserbeak43screw that05:17
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gerrolaserbeak43: umm?05:24
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gerrolaserbeak43: yeah you can run kdevelop and kanything on xubuntu05:24
gerrolaserbeak43: there also eclipse, kwrite, anjuta, and several other nice development apps05:24
laserbeak43cool05:24
laserbeak43i like kde05:24
laserbeak43but it takes up so much space05:25
laserbeak43qne you need kdebase to install kdevelop05:25
gerrolaserbeak43: hmm try anjuta its lite coding environment, if you need something larger there is eclipse05:25
laserbeak43not sure what i need honestly05:27
laserbeak43just starting really05:27
laserbeak43but one thing i do know is that the whole learning how to compile from a text editor and using switches was aheadache fo me05:27
laserbeak43though i should learn it sometime(maybe)05:28
gerroyou know there other ways to compile source code you get....05:28
laserbeak43hmm?05:29
gerrolike extracting it and doing ./configure make sudo make install etc etc..05:29
laserbeak43yeah05:31
laserbeak43i want to learn to write programs tho05:31
laserbeak43nit just compile05:31
gerrolaserbeak43: just checking, be surprised how many linux beginners do crazy things with source code trying to learn how to compile..05:36
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gerrolaserbeak43: what is your forte even? I like using perl mostly :)05:38
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teknoboihey does anyone have any suggestions as far as server software goes for xubuntu?05:50
teknoboi<<< is new to the linux thing but is in the process of setting up a webserver05:50
SwarthmoreDBok give us details about what you need from it and all05:51
teknoboii need ftp, smtp, pop, http, ssi's, etc05:51
gerrossi?05:58
gerroteknoboi: try setting up lamp server and using webmin interface through browser, that's what I do :)05:59
Jester45i co run a hosting company with all that set up for free05:59
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teknoboilamp server? is that a package download or06:01
gerroteknoboi: its an installation option with the ubuntu server cd, its an acronym for most the webserver stuff06:02
teknoboiah i see06:03
teknoboithanks for the advice, i'll check that out06:03
gerroteknoboi: I'll see if I can find a few guides to show you06:04
teknoboithat'd be great...thanks :-)06:05
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cheeseboyhow i substitute one key for another?06:08
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SwarthmoreDByou mean use say, Windows instead of the Alt key???06:14
gerrowindows?06:14
SwarthmoreDBi mean the Win key06:15
gerro you mean the start key? http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/sadrzaj/linux_key.jpg06:23
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khmerfolks, can somebody give me a quick pointer on why the screen briefly blanks every ~60 seconds only while playing a DVD in gxine?06:28
gerrono clue...06:32
gerroI mainly use totem..06:32
khmeri may try totem, but i would like to have the fine-grained postprocessing06:34
khmerwithout, you know, having to use VLC ;-)06:35
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kis there a file where i can tell xfce to run commands when it starts?06:40
knevermind06:44
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gerroyeah menu> settings> autostarted06:45
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bigredradioI am unable to use fusesmb as a user. I have tries forums and wiki suggestions and still no luck. Anyone familiar with fusesmb?07:31
bigredradioerror: fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted07:32
bigredradiosuid is set.07:32
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hyper__chhihi07:51
hyper__chhiho07:51
TheSheepbigredradio: you need to mount it in a directory owned by you07:55
bigredradioTheSheep: it is.07:55
hyper_chhello TheSheep07:56
TheSheephi hyper_ch07:56
hyper_chbigredradio: do you use "sudo"?07:56
TheSheephyper_ch: no, he uses fuse which shuld mount as normal user07:57
bigredradiohyper_ch: it will work with sudo, but the directory permissions change with the user.07:57
hyper_chTheSheep: oh... ok07:57
TheSheepbigredradio: I'm not sure fusermount hsould have suid set07:57
bigredradioThe wiki said to do this, but then I couldn't get root to use it. So I changed it back.07:57
bigredradiofusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted07:58
bigredradio:-(07:58
hyper_ch!fuse07:58
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:58
bigredradioubotu: Thanks, but I want to correct the problem I have, not try another method.08:01
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Jester45 :)08:03
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cheeseboywhats a good browser?08:11
cheeseboyfirefox eats up too many resources08:11
hyper_chie4lin ^^08:11
Jester45dillo is smaller08:11
cheeseboyFirefox uses like 10% of my cpu08:12
hyper_chwell, then you still have 90% left :)08:13
cheeseboymakes my pc very slow08:13
hyper_chhow about opera?08:13
cheeseboyhow i install dependicies to a deb package?08:21
hyper_chcheeseboy: install it not from a package but from a repo :)08:22
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fiXXXerMetI've installed the wifi-radar package.  wifi-radar detects my network(s), though I do not have a "connect" option - only "disconnect"08:31
fiXXXerMet"connected to None (IP address:  old.ip.from.ethernet) is at the bottom of the program08:32
fiXXXerMetI also can't edit or delete any of the found profiles08:32
hyper_ch!wifi-radar08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wifi-radar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
hyper_ch!radar08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
hyper_chno clue, I don't use wifi radar08:34
fiXXXerMetWhat do you use?08:34
hyper_chfiXXXerMet: the normal network configuration manager08:34
fiXXXerMetThat doesn't do a very good job for wireless networks08:35
fiXXXerMetbrb08:35
hyper_chfiXXXerMet: works fine for me08:35
fiXXXerMetDoes it show signal strength or give you options for passphrases or key strength?08:38
hyper_choptions for passphrases or key strength? what do I need that for? and for signal strenght I have RFlowCollector08:41
fiXXXerMethumm.08:41
hyper_chI run an unprotected wifi here ;)08:42
Jester45thats nice of you08:43
hyper_chJester45: well, due to this I can use torrent without problems :)08:43
hyper_chJester45: I am not liable if my connection gets hijacked and someone does illegal things ;)08:43
hyper_chJester45: and since everything is encrypted here the can't proof I did something ;)08:44
Jester45well... whats your bandwidth08:44
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hyper_ch10mbit/2mbit08:45
Jester45if its really high most people willnot use it all up... but if you where close to me i would suck your connection dry :)08:45
Jester45yea... i would use your connection for torrent seeding08:45
Jester45but... thats just me08:46
hyper_chJester45: I do... downloading here is not illegal... but uploading is sort of a grey-zone08:46
Jester45the only connection that i can get from my house is 256/128 so it doesnt add much08:46
hyper_chJester45: by having an open wifi and by having encrypted partitions they can't say I did seed08:46
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Jester45yea.. but would you like to have all your bandwidith for your own use08:47
hyper_chso far none has used my wifi yet :)08:47
hyper_chor not that I noticed08:47
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mikeconceptsmy screen resolution is 800x600 and nothing is available to go any higher, yet in every other distro I use, I get 124x76808:48
mikeconceptsubuntu goes to 1024, xubuntu doesn't08:48
mikeconceptswhat's up with that?08:48
fiXXXerMetWhat video card?08:48
hyper_chmikeconcepts: alter your xorg.conf08:49
mikeconceptsnvidia fx520008:49
fiXXXerMetxubuntu is probably not using the restricted or better drives that ubuntu is?08:49
hyper_chmikeconcepts: restricted drivers installed?08:49
mikeconceptsyes08:49
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mikeconceptsinstalled via menu08:49
hyper_chmikeconcepts: you could reconfigure your xorg.conf08:50
mikeconceptsheaded for it now08:50
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hyper_chmake a backup first ;)08:50
Jester45hyper_ch, do you live in the city?08:51
slow-motionhallo08:51
hyper_chJester45: yes08:51
Jester45hi08:51
Jester45hyper_ch, im suprised your wifi hasnt been used haved been used08:51
hyper_chthere are so many wifis here... I guess each one has its own08:52
hyper_chJester45: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200706220923534608:52
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hyper_chJester45: yeah :)08:53
hyper_chJester45: move to a city08:53
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hyper_chJester45: did you have a look at that url?08:53
mikeconceptsIdentifier      "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] "08:54
mikeconcepts        Driver          "nvidia"08:54
mikeconceptsnothing wrong there08:54
hyper_chmikeconcepts: glxgears08:54
hyper_chdoes it run fine?08:54
mikeconceptsyes08:55
mikeconceptsfps 144508:55
mikeconcepts Defaultdepth    2408:55
mikeconcepts        SubSection "Display"08:55
mikeconcepts                Depth   108:55
mikeconcepts                Modes           "1024x768"      "800x600"       "640x480"08:55
hyper_chhmmm, how about just adding the other resolution to the xorg.config?08:55
mikeconceptswhere is that?08:56
hyper_chmikeconcepts: hmmm, you have 1024x768 in there08:56
mikeconceptsyet not available08:56
hyper_chis it also in the 24 section further down?08:57
mikeconceptsyes08:57
mikeconceptsSection "Monitor"08:57
mikeconcepts        Identifier      "Generic Monitor"08:57
mikeconcepts        Option          "DPMS"08:57
mikeconcepts        Horizsync       28-5108:57
mikeconcepts        Vertrefresh     43-6008:57
hyper_ch        SubSection "Display"08:57
hyper_ch                Depth           2408:57
hyper_ch                Modes           "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"08:57
hyper_ch        EndSubSection08:57
mikeconceptsSubSection "Display"08:58
mikeconcepts                Depth   2408:58
mikeconcepts                Modes           "1024x768"      "800x600"       "640x480"08:58
mikeconcepts        EndSubSection08:58
hyper_chSection "Monitor"08:58
hyper_ch        Identifier      "Acer AL1951"08:58
hyper_ch        Option          "DPMS"08:58
hyper_ch        HorizSync       30-8308:58
hyper_ch        VertRefresh     55-7508:58
hyper_chEndSection08:58
hyper_chhmmm.... maybe it's because of the generic monitor? Well, I have no clue08:58
arooWhoa dudes08:59
aroo!paste08:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:59
mikeconcepts/var/log/Xorg.0.log09:00
hyper_charoo: just the two of us talking in here so calm down09:00
Jester45mine has a generic moniter listed on it09:00
mikeconceptsI'll poke around in this and see if there are any clues09:00
aroohyper_ch: I'm very calm09:00
hyper_chmikeconcepts: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  --> maybe that helps... but make a backup first09:01
Jester45hyper_ch, your wasting bandwidth with all the extra text :)09:01
mikeconceptsok, already did the backup, so will do that now09:01
hyper_chJester45: not really, by pasting directly in here instead of first opening a pastebin, pasting it there, copy'n'paste the pastebin url in here uses more bandwith09:01
Jester45but not for me09:02
hyper_chmikeconcepts: and after that you need to restart your xserver09:02
mikeconceptsok, thanks09:02
hyper_chJester45: get more of it09:02
hyper_chJester45: did you have a look at the url?09:02
Jester45yes09:02
Jester45thats prety funny09:02
Jester45does MS put all the downloads up or is it user summited09:03
hyper_chJester45: no clue... but it's an official M$ site ^^09:03
Jester45they probly do it them selfves09:03
Jester45and if not its still looked over by Ms09:04
=== hyper_ch thinks that M$ uses Linux at M$ HQ
Jester45they7 dont09:04
hyper_chJester45: how do you know?09:04
hyper_chwhy is amarok failing to submit to last.fm09:05
hyper_ch:(09:05
Jester451, they wouldnt support linux. 2, they would have to much time on their hands if theydid because they wouldnt have to run efrag09:05
hyper_chJester45: well, it takes a lot of time to consciously create such a crappy OS... so they need to be efficient on that ^^09:05
Jester45no... all they do is bloat the code or add usees tools and make the gui a bit more flashes09:07
Jester45flashy*09:07
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Jester45then just before the release they add some fancy ways to keep people from using it09:07
hyper_chJester45: but that needs also a lot of time... first you have to think about how to add bloat the best way09:07
Jester45likes having everything hal does encrypted :)09:08
hyper_chencryption is good...09:08
Jester45yea on network09:08
hyper_chnot only there09:09
Jester45would you want the data going from your dvd drive to your cpu being enycripted with 2000bit encrytion09:09
hyper_chone of the partners at work works in two firms and he uses a single notebook...09:09
Jester45or 204809:09
Jester45encryption might be good but not on stupid things09:10
hyper_chJester45: since this is all confidential data (lawyer and revision) it would be pretty bad if the notebook or his usb-stick would get stolen09:10
Jester45and not by defualt09:10
hyper_chJester45: so I set him up with truecrypt (he uses winxp)09:10
Jester45well thats a better way09:10
Jester45but having everything the Os does encrypted is a waste of time on a media pc09:11
hyper_chJester45: for me it's just two harddisks ^^09:11
Jester45if your going to have it entergrated like that at least have it like windows firewall. so that you can turn it on if you need09:11
mikeconceptsdone, will see if it crashes, in which case I'll put the backup in place09:11
mikeconceptssee ya09:11
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hyper_chJester45: what do you mean?09:12
hyper_chJester45: with windows firewall?09:12
Jester45on xp you can turn windows firewall of it you want. but on vista you cant turn off the encrytion unless you want to run a third party crack/hack09:13
hyper_chJester45: ah ok... another reason not to use vista09:13
hyper_chlinux is more and more coming... it's getting quite popular in France :)09:14
Jester45yes... and even if you need to encrypt your dvd drive... use 128 or somthing on the lower end no 204809:14
hyper_chwhy not 2048? ^^09:15
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Jester45becuase its a lot slower for no reason09:15
hyper_chJester45: well the french parliament and their staff change to linux desktops09:15
hyper_chJester45: and Peugeot is also on the verge on converting 20k desktop over to linux09:15
Jester45i think the US goverment uses linux idk if only linux but im gessing the servers are linux09:16
hyper_chJester45: unfortunately the swiss government doesn't have plans yet09:16
Jester45i dont know what Peugeot is...09:16
hyper_cha car producer09:16
Jester45well.. i got to go to work in a bit09:16
hyper_chthere's more than GM  ;)09:16
hyper_chhttp://www.peugeot.com/en/default.htm09:17
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mikeconceptshad to restore xorg.conf from backup, I apparently don't know what I'm doing answering all these questions09:21
Jester45bye bye all09:21
hyper_chmikeconcepts: hmmm :(09:22
mikeconceptstoo hard to do09:22
hyper_chmikeconcepts: you could install gnome... save your xorg.conf and then replce the xubuntu one with the gnome one :)09:22
mikeconceptsnah09:22
mikeconceptswant xfce speed09:22
hyper_chmikeconcepts: just make a small partition where you could install ubuntu to09:22
hyper_chthen have the correct xorg.conf that you then can move over09:23
hyper_chand then you can remove ubuntu again09:23
mikeconceptsoh09:23
mikeconceptsnow I see09:23
mikeconceptsactually, I'll do that from another drive I have ubuntu on09:24
hyper_chmikeconcepts: ok ;)09:24
mikeconceptsand use its xorg.conf09:24
mikeconceptsvery cool idea!09:24
Jester45no09:24
hyper_chbut I still don't know why it doesn't work in xubuntu09:24
hyper_chJester45: no?09:24
Jester45do you have a ubuntu live cd?09:24
Jester45get the xorg from that09:25
mikeconceptsJester45, are you talking to me?09:25
Jester45yes09:25
mikeconceptssure I have it09:25
Jester45boot it and copy the xorg09:25
mikeconceptsok, I'll do that09:25
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Jester45you can even mount the xubuntu partition09:26
Jester45so you can copy better09:26
mikeconceptseither way is about the same time to do, swapping drives is easy for me09:26
hyper_ch^^09:26
mikeconceptsbrb09:26
hyper_chJester45: I thought you need to work ;)09:27
Jester45i do...09:27
Jester45im watching the hills have eyes 209:27
Jester45cant leave it :)09:27
hyper_chlol09:27
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hyper_chmaybe submission to last.fm work now with the new amarok09:28
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hyper_chlol09:28
Jester45sorryabout lang if anyone is offended09:28
hyper_chI'm not offended...09:29
hyper_chthis thing about being offended is also some of this "political nonsense" c***09:30
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_peerlesshey, I am trying to install xubuntu from a usb drive (on a laptop that doesnt have a cdrom drive).  I made the stick bootable using syslinux.  I copied over the alternate cdrom iso to the stick, renamed isolinux folder and .bin and .cfg to syslinux.  Booted up, started the install. I get to the point where it tries to detect cdrom, cant.  I go to a shell and try to mount the usb as cdrom, but I am stuck at this step09:39
_peerlessIf I check the syslog when plugging in the drive, it puts it on sdb, but it also says unknown partition table, and I dont think it ever mounts to sdb1 so that could be why I cant mount it to the /cdrom09:39
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_peerlessIve tried formatting it as fat and fat32, neither worked09:39
_peerlessany idea?09:40
mikeconceptscomparing the xorg from ubuntu 7.03 to xubuntu 7.04 sid by side now09:40
mikeconcepts*7.0409:40
hyper_ch_peerless: never tried installing from a usb stick09:42
hyper_chmikeconcepts: find anything?09:43
_peerlesshyper_ch09:43
_peerlessany reason why it would say unknown partition table?09:44
mikeconceptsrats, they are exactly the same09:45
mikeconceptshyper_ch, disappointed - fully expected something would not be the same09:46
hyper_ch_peerless: nope... no clue... booting from cd works fine here... :)09:46
mikeconceptsstuck with 800x600 for now09:46
hyper_chmikeconcepts: Applications --> Settings --> Settings Manager --> Display09:46
mikeconceptsyes, 10 times already09:47
hyper_chmikeconcepts: no clue :(09:47
mikeconcepts800 max09:48
mikeconceptsrats09:48
hyper_chcan you pastebin your config?09:48
hyper_ch!install | _peerless09:50
ubotu_peerless: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate09:50
mikeconceptssure, it won't help, but will do09:51
_peerlessIm already following a guide from there09:51
hyper_ch_peerless: how about using a different method?09:52
_peerlesslike?09:53
_peerlessI dont have a cdrom drive09:53
hyper_chsecond computer?09:53
_peerlessnetboot? I couldnt find a xubuntu pxe image09:53
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hyper_ch_peerless: well, what do yuo have available?09:55
hyper_chyou don't need a xubuntu pxe image... a normal iso should be fine09:55
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mikeconceptshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26785/09:56
mikeconceptsmy xorg.conf, identical to one in ubuntu09:56
mikeconceptsbtw, reason for running xubuntu is speed09:56
mikeconceptsloading xp under vmware server measurements:09:57
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mikeconceptsthis will be cool info for people09:57
hyper_chmikeconcepts: what's the i2c module? I don't have that... but I have the dri one09:57
mikeconceptsubuntu 7.01 from start of xp vm to first audible sound, 100 seconds09:57
jsinI lost my grub.conf, where would I find the proper kernel and initrd lines for xubuntu 7.04?09:57
hyper_chmikeconcepts: I run xp in xubuntu (for partypoker)09:57
mikeconceptsvector soho 76 seconds09:57
mikeconceptsxumbuntu 67 seconds09:58
hyper_chjsin: what do you mean by *lost*?09:58
mikeconceptsxumbuntu faster than vector standard as well09:58
jsinwell, installed another distro...09:58
jsinthat overtook it09:58
jsinI want to set up dual boot, i know xubuntu's /boot is hd0,009:59
mikeconcepts12c, no idea09:59
jsinI just need to find the kernel and initrd lines09:59
hyper_chjsin: uname -a09:59
jsinnot until I boot into it though :)09:59
hyper_chjsin: well, then have a look at the /boot folder10:00
mikeconceptsi2c, clueless as to what it is10:00
mikeconceptsnvidia fx5200, audigy sound card10:00
hyper_chmikeconcepts: take it out10:00
hyper_chmikeconcepts: and replace it with  "dri"10:00
hyper_chmikeconcepts: and make a backup ^^10:01
mikeconceptsok, will try10:01
mikeconceptsbackup is still there10:01
hyper_chdamn it...10:01
hyper_chwait10:01
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NorthernmonkHow do I set up a Netgear WG311 wifi card for WPA?10:03
hyper_ch!wpa | Northernmonk10:04
ubotuNorthernmonk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:04
laserbeak43i love xubuntu10:04
laserbeak43thanks guys10:04
laserbeak43:)10:04
laserbeak43one day when i learn better c++ i'll try to contribute :P10:04
hyper_chlaserbeak43: you got a palmlife drive?10:05
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laserbeak43whats that? :P10:05
mikeconceptsbooted up ok10:05
jsinthanks hyper_ch, I did not think to just ls the /boot :)10:05
AsauceI have an odd problem with my internet connection...10:05
AsauceI can IM and browse the web fine, but I can't connect to the internet to download updates or new packages.10:05
hyper_chmikeconcepts: you were too quick.... I sort of adjust your conf to mine ;)10:05
hyper_chlaserbeak43: a pda10:05
laserbeak43oh hehe nope10:06
laserbeak43why10:06
mikeconceptshave dri now where i2c was10:06
hyper_chlaserbeak43: because kpilot does not yet sync everything with the lifedrive and I don't know any c++ at all10:06
mikeconceptssee no change in display setting, still has 800 as max10:06
hyper_chmikeconcepts: ok, here's more to delete:10:06
hyper_chOption"AddARGBVisuals""True"10:06
hyper_chOption"AddARGBGLXVisuals""True"10:06
mikeconceptsok10:06
mikeconceptswill do10:07
hyper_chmikeconcepts: but wait ;)10:07
_peerlessdoes xubuntu run that much better than ubuntu?10:07
mikeconceptswaiting10:07
hyper_chmikeconcepts: there's maybe more to come10:07
hyper_ch_peerless: depends on how you define "better"10:07
laserbeak43hyper_ch: wish i could help you there10:07
laserbeak43:)10:07
hyper_chlaserbeak43: don't worry10:07
laserbeak43maybe one day10:07
laserbeak43have a good day guys10:07
laserbeak43off to school10:07
_peerlessim running a 1.4ghz pentium m with 512mb ram, should i use xubuntu or ubuntu10:07
hyper_chmikeconcepts: what size does your screen have? 19"?10:08
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hyper_ch_peerless: I'd go with xubuntu... but then I have 1gb ram and 1.6ghz processor10:08
mikeconcepts1510:08
hyper_ch_peerless: but performance shouldn't matter much - depending on what you run10:08
hyper_chmikeconcepts: ok...10:08
_peerlessisnt xubuntu "lighter" than ubuntu itself?10:08
mikeconceptsevery other distro goes to 102410:09
hyper_chmikeconcepts: at the end add this:10:09
hyper_chSection "Extensions"10:09
hyper_ch          Option  "Composite" "Enable"10:09
hyper_chEndSection10:09
mikeconceptsi2c and dri will get switched back10:09
mikeconceptskeyboard isn't right now10:09
hyper_ch_peerless: it is... but then if you run like 100 appz it doesn't matter anymore10:09
hyper_chmikeconcepts: and maybe set default depth to 1610:10
_peerlessyeah10:10
hyper_chmikeconcepts: and then try if that has helpeed10:10
mikeconceptsok10:10
hyper_chmikeconcepts: then you have the same as me except for refreshing rates and graphic card....10:11
mikeconceptsok, off to do10:11
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mikeconceptsnothing changed10:18
mikeconceptsbut still works with two lines removed, i2c, and 1610:19
hyper_chmikeconcepts: hmmm... ok... then I don't know... wanna also alter the refresh rate?10:19
mikeconceptsthat I don't know how to do10:19
hyper_ch        HorizSync       30-8310:19
hyper_ch        VertRefresh     55-7510:19
hyper_chthose are mine10:19
mikeconceptsbut the rate in xorg is the same as in ubuntu remember10:19
hyper_chif you use them... xserver probably won't run10:19
hyper_chmikeconcepts: yes... hmm... it's strange10:19
hyper_chanother thing you could do10:20
hyper_ch(1) install ubuntu10:20
hyper_ch(2) install restricted drivers10:20
mikeconceptsproblem must be somewhere other than xork10:20
hyper_ch(3) remove the ubuntu stuff and download/install xubuntu stuff10:20
mikeconceptsdid that already10:20
hyper_chpsychocat has a the packages for doing that10:20
mikeconceptsclue, I don't see the nvidia logo during bootup10:21
mikeconceptsusually always do10:21
mikeconceptsso10:21
mikeconceptsperhaps that is it10:21
hyper_chmikeconcepts: nope, you have the option nologo set10:21
hyper_chmikeconcepts: I have that also10:21
mikeconceptsneed to find a way to install restricted drivers again, even though it already is10:22
mikeconceptsdunno10:22
hyper_chmikeconcepts: can't really help you... :(10:22
mikeconceptsbut you sure tried :)10:22
hyper_chactually...10:22
hyper_chchange from nvidia to "nv"10:22
hyper_chthen you can remove the nvidia drivers10:22
hyper_chsudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*10:22
mikeconceptsright10:23
hyper_chthat should remove them10:23
mikeconceptsrecall that now10:23
hyper_chthen reboot and try to install teh restriced again10:23
mikeconceptsgoodby nvidia, hello nv - brb10:30
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tempelhueterhi guys. is there a file which contains the autostart-programs? i searched for it, but i only find a gentoo how-to, which tells me, that i have to create a folder "autostart" on my desktop. is this the only way?10:34
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tempelhueteri that a daemon in the xfce start10:34
hyper_chwhy don't you just make use of the session?10:35
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mikeconceptsinstalling linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic10:36
hyper_chmikeconcepts: ?10:37
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mikeconceptsneeds restart10:37
mikeconceptswill let you know in a minute10:38
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Communialhi10:39
hyper_chhi10:40
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hyper_chmikeconcepts: ok, booting works... let's hope for the rest :)10:41
mikeconceptsglxgears back to being fast again, but still stuck at 800x60010:41
hyper_ch:(10:42
mikeconceptsso we have changed a lot of stuff, removed and reinstalled restricted drivers10:42
mikeconceptswho knows what is going on here10:42
hyper_chI dunno why it works with ubuntu and not with xubuntu10:42
mikeconceptsand every other distro for that matter10:42
mikeconceptsjust this one10:42
mikeconceptswonder if because I used a beta CD I have this issue, even though I've done all the possible updates10:43
mikeconceptsfigured that the beta was ok as long as I update10:43
hyper_chmikeconcepts: you use Gutsy?10:43
mikeconceptsno10:44
mikeconceptsrefering to feisty beta, I just havn't bothered burning another cd10:44
hyper_chmikeconcepts: well, you may want to try with the final feisty then10:44
mikeconceptsyuk ola10:44
mikeconceptsbut may have to10:44
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mikeconceptsguess I will, tomorrow10:45
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dewpola guys11:18
rokraHola11:19
dewpi'm trying to install xubuntu 7.04 on ntfs formatted hdd, the installer can't create an ext3 partition11:19
dewpis it cause the hdd is 300gb large?11:19
rokraNo idea11:19
dewpthen i wanted to do it with parted, but i dont know the installer cd's sudo password11:19
dewpwhat is it? :)11:19
rokrasudo su - will pass you as root no? not need a pass11:20
hyper_chdewp: you can simply delete that ntfs partition and create an ext3 one11:20
dewpi tried that11:21
dewpi'm not THAT stupid11:21
dewp=)11:21
hyper_chdewp: well, it works11:21
dewptried it with gparted and the installer's tool11:21
dewpboth did not make it11:21
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hyper_chhow about alternate cd?11:21
dewpdid not try it - are there better tools?11:22
hyper_chyou could use the command line11:22
dewpokay, downloading it right now11:23
hyper_chall I can say it works....11:23
hyper_chyou can use the command line from the live cd also11:23
dewpuntill its finished, what is the password for the live cd?11:23
dewpfor sudo11:23
hyper_chthere is none11:23
dewpwhen i do parted it says that i'm not root11:24
hyper_chsudo parted11:24
hyper_chor gksudo gparted11:24
dewpyeah - "enter password"11:24
hyper_chand without sudo?11:24
dewpwith just enter it says "authentication failed"11:24
dewpwithout it says "youre not root" (something similar)11:25
hyper_chhow about setting first a password for the user that you are11:25
hyper_chpasswd11:25
hyper_chand then sudo parted / gksudo gparted11:25
dewpyey :)11:26
dewpgood idea11:26
dewpbrb *switch monitor & keyboard*11:27
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hyper_chif there are two computers and if they are networked, install openssh-server11:29
hyper_chfor remote login11:29
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dewpi created new partitions with parted in the command line, but it was only able to create ext211:59
dewpbut i need ext3, right?11:59
hyper_chjust delete the partition and then create new ones with the installer11:59
dewpi tried, maybe the hdd have failures12:00
dewpis there something better like fsck?12:00
dewpwith the live cd12:00
hyper_chno clue12:00
PumpernickelIf the partition is there already, you can just build a filesystem on it with mkfs.12:01
hyper_chbut you need at leat 2 partitions... 3 are better12:01
dewpi know12:01
dewpPumpernickel i cannot create ext3 with parted :(12:01
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